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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,774 --> 00:00:10,977 Oh my god, that's it, that's it. 2 00:00:10,977 --> 00:00:13,079 Okay, so I'm gonna turn the camera around. 3 00:00:13,079 --> 00:00:14,113 Ready? 4 00:00:14,113 --> 00:00:15,815 There you go. There you go, kids. 5 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:22,955 Once, it was just a quaint home in a quiet town. 6 00:00:22,955 --> 00:00:25,191 This house would be one of the most desirable places to live 7 00:00:25,191 --> 00:00:26,859 in all of Amityville. 8 00:00:26,859 --> 00:00:29,395 But then, everything changed. 9 00:00:36,736 --> 00:00:39,605 Six people were just slaughtered in their sleep. 10 00:00:39,605 --> 00:00:42,041 Mother and father and four children. 11 00:00:42,041 --> 00:00:45,011 It was very, very frightening. 12 00:00:45,011 --> 00:00:48,147 And that was just the beginning. 13 00:00:48,147 --> 00:00:50,850 And he said, "The devil made me do it." 14 00:00:50,850 --> 00:00:52,852 You've got the flies around the window. 15 00:00:52,852 --> 00:00:55,521 You have the slime oozing from the walls. 16 00:00:55,521 --> 00:00:59,158 Black substances that are coming up in the sinks and the toilets. 17 00:00:59,158 --> 00:01:01,994 It's like a page from a Stephen King novel. 18 00:01:04,096 --> 00:01:06,232 Nearly five decades later, 19 00:01:06,232 --> 00:01:11,871 America's greatest ghost story is back in the headlines. 20 00:01:11,871 --> 00:01:14,006 Breaking news in the true crime and horror community. 21 00:01:14,006 --> 00:01:18,711 The Amityville Horror killer died in prison at the age of 69. 22 00:01:18,711 --> 00:01:21,013 Fueling a new generation to decipher 23 00:01:21,013 --> 00:01:24,884 what really happened at 112 Ocean Avenue. 24 00:01:24,884 --> 00:01:26,452 You have the true crime. You have the paranormal. 25 00:01:26,452 --> 00:01:27,787 You have the mystery. 26 00:01:29,321 --> 00:01:33,225 What is it that caused this? How did we get here? 27 00:01:33,225 --> 00:01:37,163 This is "Famously Haunted: Amityville." 28 00:01:56,515 --> 00:01:58,050 I'm Beckie-Anne Galentine. 29 00:01:58,050 --> 00:02:01,954 I'm a mortician during the day and a ghost hunter at night. 30 00:02:01,954 --> 00:02:04,223 On social media, I am known as the girl 31 00:02:04,223 --> 00:02:07,026 that goes to the spooky locations. 32 00:02:07,026 --> 00:02:09,261 Paranormal, haunted locations, haunted overnights, 33 00:02:09,261 --> 00:02:13,299 and just testing the limits of how far I can go with it. 34 00:02:13,299 --> 00:02:16,469 I actually have the top post on TikTok for Amityville. 35 00:02:17,336 --> 00:02:19,371 You know that saying, if your friends jumped off a bridge, 36 00:02:19,371 --> 00:02:20,673 would you do it? 37 00:02:20,673 --> 00:02:22,208 Well, my TikTok followers told me 38 00:02:22,208 --> 00:02:23,976 to go the Amityville Horror house 39 00:02:23,976 --> 00:02:26,912 where six people were murdered in 1974, and I did. 40 00:02:29,148 --> 00:02:31,550 But the town of Amityville doesn't make finding 41 00:02:31,550 --> 00:02:33,486 the iconic house easy. 42 00:02:37,123 --> 00:02:40,226 So, when I looked it up on Google Maps, 43 00:02:40,226 --> 00:02:41,227 it is blurred out. 44 00:02:41,227 --> 00:02:42,895 Not only is that house blurred out, 45 00:02:42,895 --> 00:02:45,197 but several neighboring houses are. 46 00:02:45,197 --> 00:02:48,868 They really don't want you to figure out what's going on here. 47 00:02:48,868 --> 00:02:51,904 When you arrive outside the house now, 48 00:02:51,904 --> 00:02:54,140 the trademark windows have been removed. 49 00:02:54,140 --> 00:02:56,942 They've done all they can to try to make it blend in 50 00:02:56,942 --> 00:02:59,411 and not look like the Amityville house. 51 00:02:59,411 --> 00:03:00,946 "Meeting" the house for the first time 52 00:03:00,946 --> 00:03:02,481 is like meeting a celebrity. 53 00:03:02,481 --> 00:03:04,316 You feel like you've seen it. 54 00:03:04,316 --> 00:03:06,385 It's a familiar face. 55 00:03:06,385 --> 00:03:09,021 You feel, like, this pit in your stomach, like this is the house. 56 00:03:09,021 --> 00:03:10,589 This is the cover from the movie. 57 00:03:10,589 --> 00:03:12,091 This is the cover from the book. 58 00:03:12,091 --> 00:03:13,692 This is the house that I saw 59 00:03:13,692 --> 00:03:17,029 in a newspaper clipping from the '70s. 60 00:03:17,029 --> 00:03:21,600 But this house holds terrible secrets. 61 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,269 You have the true crime. You have the paranormal. 62 00:03:23,269 --> 00:03:25,804 You have the mystery surrounding why it happened, 63 00:03:25,804 --> 00:03:27,940 because nobody still knows. 64 00:03:27,940 --> 00:03:29,909 There's so many questions still surrounding this case. 65 00:03:31,877 --> 00:03:33,879 That's the fascinating part about all of this. 66 00:03:33,879 --> 00:03:38,150 The mystery just lives on. What happened? 67 00:03:38,150 --> 00:03:39,952 One thing that's certain 68 00:03:39,952 --> 00:03:42,988 is where the story begins. 69 00:03:42,988 --> 00:03:48,227 The year is 1974, and the town is Amityville, New York. 70 00:03:56,769 --> 00:04:00,306 So this house with the flags is the house that I grew up in. 71 00:04:06,078 --> 00:04:08,647 Back then, Geralyn Bozza 72 00:04:08,647 --> 00:04:10,282 lives just a few doors down 73 00:04:10,282 --> 00:04:13,686 from the infamous Amityville Horror house. 74 00:04:13,686 --> 00:04:18,657 At that time, it's only known as the home of the DeFeo family. 75 00:04:18,657 --> 00:04:21,760 We were friendly with the DeFeo family because there was 76 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,765 a connection between my parents, 77 00:04:26,765 --> 00:04:28,601 being that we were all from Brooklyn. 78 00:04:30,269 --> 00:04:33,038 You had the father, Big Ronnie. 79 00:04:33,038 --> 00:04:35,841 The mother, Louise. 80 00:04:35,841 --> 00:04:40,145 Then you had Dawn DeFeo, Allison DeFeo, 81 00:04:40,145 --> 00:04:44,950 Marc DeFeo, and John Matthew. 82 00:04:44,950 --> 00:04:48,687 Then you had the oldest child, Ronnie Jr. 83 00:04:48,687 --> 00:04:52,124 His friends called him Butch. 84 00:04:52,124 --> 00:04:53,826 The large Italian family 85 00:04:53,826 --> 00:04:58,631 moves to the picturesque town from Brooklyn nine years earlier 86 00:04:58,631 --> 00:05:04,403 and hangs the sign "High Hopes" to symbolize their new start. 87 00:05:04,403 --> 00:05:07,973 The DeFeos, compared to the people in Amityville, 88 00:05:07,973 --> 00:05:10,509 especially the more upscale neighbors, 89 00:05:10,509 --> 00:05:13,012 were a little rough around the edges. 90 00:05:13,012 --> 00:05:16,015 Some might call them uncouth, because-- 91 00:05:16,015 --> 00:05:18,317 and I'm half Italian myself-- 92 00:05:18,317 --> 00:05:21,287 Italians are loud, boisterous. 93 00:05:23,722 --> 00:05:25,557 Big Ronnie, as they called him, 94 00:05:25,557 --> 00:05:29,528 was sort of like Archie Bunker on steroids. 95 00:05:29,528 --> 00:05:31,563 He would yell at his wife. 96 00:05:31,563 --> 00:05:34,333 There was one story that she was coming upstairs 97 00:05:34,333 --> 00:05:38,637 with the laundry basket and he knocked her down the stairs. 98 00:05:42,675 --> 00:05:45,511 Some believe it was Big Ronnie's resentment of 99 00:05:45,511 --> 00:05:49,682 the Amityville house that triggered his blind rage. 100 00:05:49,682 --> 00:05:54,887 The house was purchased by Louise Brigante DeFeo's father, 101 00:05:54,887 --> 00:05:56,855 Michael Brigante Sr. 102 00:05:56,855 --> 00:06:01,226 Her father just absolutely adored her. 103 00:06:01,226 --> 00:06:03,862 Big Ronnie, who was working for his father-in-law, 104 00:06:03,862 --> 00:06:07,232 and was dependent upon his father-in-law for the mortgage, 105 00:06:07,232 --> 00:06:11,670 I think there was probably that in-law friction. 106 00:06:11,670 --> 00:06:12,871 On the surface, 107 00:06:12,871 --> 00:06:14,973 they looked like a successful family. 108 00:06:14,973 --> 00:06:19,878 But as you peel back the layers, you find that the systemic abuse 109 00:06:19,878 --> 00:06:25,117 from the father was so severe. 110 00:06:25,117 --> 00:06:27,853 But Big Ronnie's most volatile relationship 111 00:06:27,853 --> 00:06:31,590 is with his eldest son. 112 00:06:31,590 --> 00:06:34,727 Ronnie DeFeo, also known as Butch, 113 00:06:34,727 --> 00:06:37,096 was a troubled young man. 114 00:06:37,096 --> 00:06:41,300 At the age of 17, he was into heroin, LSD. 115 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:44,136 He drank. He was expelled from school. 116 00:06:44,136 --> 00:06:46,705 His parents sent him to a psychiatrist. 117 00:06:46,705 --> 00:06:48,240 It still didn't help. 118 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,275 He was troubled. He was volatile. 119 00:06:52,077 --> 00:06:54,913 As far as Ronnie Sr. 120 00:06:54,913 --> 00:06:59,284 and Butch, his son, went, 121 00:06:59,284 --> 00:07:02,054 they had a very contentious relationship. 122 00:07:02,054 --> 00:07:06,291 And that bothered the younger DeFeo siblings. 123 00:07:06,291 --> 00:07:08,827 Certainly the DeFeos were a dysfunctional family. 124 00:07:08,827 --> 00:07:11,363 The situation between Big Ronnie and Little Ronnie's 125 00:07:11,363 --> 00:07:14,633 just worsening and worsening over time. 126 00:07:14,633 --> 00:07:20,406 Sometimes this would end up as real fisticuffs, bloodletting. 127 00:07:21,306 --> 00:07:25,244 One time, Ronnie Sr. thought Butch was talking back. 128 00:07:25,244 --> 00:07:28,113 So he grabbed his son and continued to beat on him 129 00:07:28,113 --> 00:07:29,782 until he was bloody. 130 00:07:34,686 --> 00:07:38,290 Of course, everyone's yelling at the father to stop. 131 00:07:38,290 --> 00:07:40,125 So, there's a lot of psychological things 132 00:07:40,125 --> 00:07:41,693 going on with that family. 133 00:07:41,693 --> 00:07:44,129 A lot of negative, uh, things happening with them, 134 00:07:44,129 --> 00:07:46,932 which invokes negativity. 135 00:07:46,932 --> 00:07:49,334 You just can't see it, but it's there. 136 00:07:53,672 --> 00:07:57,009 Then, on November 13, 1974, 137 00:07:57,009 --> 00:08:01,346 the evil within the DeFeo family home spills into the public eye. 138 00:08:04,483 --> 00:08:08,420 The policeman was coming out the front door. 139 00:08:08,420 --> 00:08:11,089 And I said, "Excuse me, is there something wrong? 140 00:08:11,089 --> 00:08:12,591 My mother sent me down." 141 00:08:12,591 --> 00:08:16,428 He said, "You need to go get your mother right now." 142 00:08:16,428 --> 00:08:18,397 I-- 143 00:08:24,136 --> 00:08:28,507 "They're all dead." 144 00:08:32,177 --> 00:08:34,413 So I ran down the street. 145 00:08:37,015 --> 00:08:38,717 It was terrible. 146 00:08:41,286 --> 00:08:43,188 It was terrible. 147 00:08:51,263 --> 00:08:53,332 It's crazy, but we are here. 148 00:08:53,332 --> 00:08:56,001 It's behind me. It's crazy. 149 00:08:56,001 --> 00:08:58,303 Like, isn't it insane? 150 00:09:00,372 --> 00:09:03,609 It's 6:30 PM in Amityville, New York 151 00:09:03,609 --> 00:09:08,247 on the night of November 13, 1974. 152 00:09:08,247 --> 00:09:10,182 And what happens in this house 153 00:09:10,182 --> 00:09:15,254 is about to change the town forever. 154 00:09:15,254 --> 00:09:18,657 Ronnie DeFeo Jr. went down to Henry's Bar 155 00:09:18,657 --> 00:09:21,226 and burst into the bar and says, help, help! 156 00:09:21,226 --> 00:09:23,161 You know, somebody's-something's wrong. 157 00:09:23,161 --> 00:09:26,431 Somebody's killed my family. 158 00:09:26,431 --> 00:09:28,433 It didn't take long for an officer to respond. 159 00:09:28,433 --> 00:09:29,968 There was actually an officer right down the street. 160 00:09:29,968 --> 00:09:31,737 And as soon as he arrived, 161 00:09:31,737 --> 00:09:33,438 the neighbors were all looking out their windows, 162 00:09:33,438 --> 00:09:34,806 wondering what's going on. 163 00:09:36,542 --> 00:09:39,578 Inside this beautiful waterfront home, 164 00:09:39,578 --> 00:09:44,816 police comb through a horrific crime scene. 165 00:09:44,816 --> 00:09:47,286 Ronald DeFeo Sr. 166 00:09:47,286 --> 00:09:50,389 His wife, Louise. 167 00:09:50,389 --> 00:09:55,160 Teenage daughters Dawn and Allison. 168 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,297 And sons Marc and John Mathew. 169 00:09:58,297 --> 00:10:02,367 All shot and killed in their beds. 170 00:10:02,367 --> 00:10:05,504 Allison and Dawn's shootings 171 00:10:05,504 --> 00:10:08,440 were particularly gory and gruesome. 172 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,742 Not only were they young women, 173 00:10:10,742 --> 00:10:15,247 they were shot in the head so the wounds were big. 174 00:10:15,247 --> 00:10:19,484 And that went through to the walls. 175 00:10:19,484 --> 00:10:22,654 Investigators do believe that John Matthew, 176 00:10:22,654 --> 00:10:26,925 who was the youngest at nine, did live a little bit longer 177 00:10:26,925 --> 00:10:29,394 after the gunshot. 178 00:10:29,394 --> 00:10:33,065 They believed he was paralyzed, but he was--of course, 179 00:10:33,065 --> 00:10:36,802 pronounced dead at the scene, the whole family was. 180 00:10:36,802 --> 00:10:38,570 Six people died. 181 00:10:38,570 --> 00:10:41,540 And this was something--this was a crime that was unheard of. 182 00:10:44,543 --> 00:10:50,082 Only 23-year-old Ronnie "Butch" DeFeo survives. 183 00:10:50,082 --> 00:10:51,683 Ronnie Defeo Jr. claimed that 184 00:10:51,683 --> 00:10:55,454 he hadn't been home when this all went on. 185 00:10:55,454 --> 00:10:59,324 He came home at about 6:30 on November 13. 186 00:11:02,260 --> 00:11:05,931 Found his family all murdered in their beds. 187 00:11:05,931 --> 00:11:07,432 Someone went through there 188 00:11:07,432 --> 00:11:10,002 and systematically killed each and every one of them 189 00:11:10,002 --> 00:11:11,436 in a most brutal fashion. 190 00:11:19,277 --> 00:11:20,679 I can't imagine what it must've been like 191 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,548 to be one of those neighbors in this small community 192 00:11:23,548 --> 00:11:25,484 and then to watch as 193 00:11:25,484 --> 00:11:28,787 law enforcement is just converging on this house. 194 00:11:28,787 --> 00:11:31,757 Uh, the media starts showing up. Flashbulbs going off. 195 00:11:31,757 --> 00:11:34,092 Everybody angling to see what's going on. 196 00:11:34,092 --> 00:11:36,595 And then suddenly a silence falls over the crowd 197 00:11:36,595 --> 00:11:39,231 as the body bags start being pulled from the house. 198 00:11:39,231 --> 00:11:40,966 And you can see in the archived photos 199 00:11:40,966 --> 00:11:43,802 that some of those body bags were very small 200 00:11:43,802 --> 00:11:45,937 because they contained very small children. 201 00:11:48,740 --> 00:11:50,375 Remember, Amityville was the type of place 202 00:11:50,375 --> 00:11:51,977 where you didn't lock your doors. 203 00:11:51,977 --> 00:11:57,349 So, you went from a very passive place to live 204 00:11:57,349 --> 00:11:59,317 to a how could that happen. 205 00:11:59,317 --> 00:12:03,488 I mean, it was just so huge. 206 00:12:03,488 --> 00:12:08,727 I mean...a child--children. Why? 207 00:12:08,727 --> 00:12:12,130 Being that we were friendly with the DeFeo family, 208 00:12:12,130 --> 00:12:14,833 I can remember being afraid 209 00:12:14,833 --> 00:12:17,936 that whoever killed them was coming for us next. 210 00:12:17,936 --> 00:12:20,172 I can remember sleeping with my sister, I think, 211 00:12:20,172 --> 00:12:22,107 for over a year. 212 00:12:22,107 --> 00:12:26,311 Who would wanna kill this family of six people, 213 00:12:26,311 --> 00:12:28,580 a mother and father, and four children? 214 00:12:28,580 --> 00:12:31,550 It was sensational news. 215 00:12:31,550 --> 00:12:35,787 It really tweaked the imagination and the horror 216 00:12:35,787 --> 00:12:40,659 and--and the sadness of everyone who lived in the area. 217 00:12:40,659 --> 00:12:43,995 But as police investigate the grisly crime scene, 218 00:12:43,995 --> 00:12:49,501 the search for answers only leads to more questions. 219 00:12:49,501 --> 00:12:51,903 There were no shell casings left behind. 220 00:12:51,903 --> 00:12:55,607 And it seemed that nobody was awake or heard, which is, again, 221 00:12:55,607 --> 00:12:58,543 a big part of the mystery. Why didn't anybody wake up? 222 00:12:58,543 --> 00:13:00,679 Why did the neighbors not hear any of this stuff? 223 00:13:02,614 --> 00:13:05,283 One teenager in the neighborhood, 224 00:13:05,283 --> 00:13:06,785 he was awakened by the sound 225 00:13:06,785 --> 00:13:10,789 of the DeFeos' old English sheepdog, Shaggy, 226 00:13:10,789 --> 00:13:13,592 barking at about 3:00, 3:15 in the morning. 227 00:13:13,592 --> 00:13:17,195 But why had nobody heard any shots? 228 00:13:18,697 --> 00:13:25,437 To not hear a gun go off six times of that caliber 229 00:13:25,437 --> 00:13:27,773 when you were that close to this house 230 00:13:27,773 --> 00:13:30,342 is--is not believable at all. 231 00:13:30,342 --> 00:13:32,177 I do not understand how that happened. 232 00:13:33,779 --> 00:13:36,047 You could stand in their--their front doorway 233 00:13:36,047 --> 00:13:37,616 and throw a rock at their neighbor's house 234 00:13:37,616 --> 00:13:39,050 and hit it through their window. 235 00:13:42,788 --> 00:13:45,323 Meanwhile, the crowd of onlookers grows 236 00:13:45,323 --> 00:13:47,959 outside the stately colonial. 237 00:13:47,959 --> 00:13:51,463 I think they were just very sweet, very religious people, 238 00:13:51,463 --> 00:13:55,367 very family minded people. 239 00:13:55,367 --> 00:13:57,169 Have you ruled out robbery as a motive? 240 00:13:57,169 --> 00:13:59,604 We have ruled out no motive because we have no idea what 241 00:13:59,604 --> 00:14:01,773 the motive is at this time. 242 00:14:01,773 --> 00:14:04,075 Amityville is a small, quiet community. 243 00:14:04,075 --> 00:14:05,911 And any type of disruption like this is going to get 244 00:14:05,911 --> 00:14:08,814 a lookie-loo standing outside the house. 245 00:14:08,814 --> 00:14:11,883 One of the basic ironies about the DeFeos moving 246 00:14:11,883 --> 00:14:16,254 from an apartment in Brooklyn to upscale Amityville 247 00:14:16,254 --> 00:14:21,660 is it was supposed to symbolize upward mobility, 248 00:14:21,660 --> 00:14:23,562 better times for the family. 249 00:14:23,562 --> 00:14:25,831 They have the sign out there. 250 00:14:25,831 --> 00:14:29,501 Named their home "High Hopes." 251 00:14:29,501 --> 00:14:33,638 And that all came crashing down. 252 00:14:33,638 --> 00:14:35,874 The rumors are gonna start flying pretty quickly. 253 00:14:35,874 --> 00:14:38,977 And one of the rumors that really took hold was this 254 00:14:38,977 --> 00:14:41,046 could have been a mob hit of some kind. 255 00:14:41,046 --> 00:14:44,349 The DeFeo family had connections to organized crime 256 00:14:44,349 --> 00:14:47,018 on both sides, maternal and paternal. 257 00:14:47,018 --> 00:14:50,455 So, the Colombo and Genovese families were connected, uh, 258 00:14:50,455 --> 00:14:52,791 to the DeFeos. 259 00:14:52,791 --> 00:14:55,961 Louise DeFeo was part of the Brigante family, 260 00:14:55,961 --> 00:15:00,365 that they were associated with the mafia in New York City. 261 00:15:00,365 --> 00:15:01,933 Ronnie DeFeo Sr., 262 00:15:01,933 --> 00:15:04,903 he was working for his father-in-law, 263 00:15:04,903 --> 00:15:08,807 Michael Brigante Sr., at the Buick dealership. 264 00:15:08,807 --> 00:15:12,244 The car dealership was a front for the mob. 265 00:15:12,244 --> 00:15:16,181 Things happened there such as low-level crime, 266 00:15:16,181 --> 00:15:21,219 like chopping cars, all the way up to money laundering. 267 00:15:21,219 --> 00:15:25,557 Big Ronnie Sr. was responsible for keeping tabs of the ledgers 268 00:15:25,557 --> 00:15:28,226 for the family business, if you will. 269 00:15:28,226 --> 00:15:29,928 The true ledgers. 270 00:15:29,928 --> 00:15:33,498 There were rumors that Big Ronnie, 271 00:15:33,498 --> 00:15:37,469 that he was somehow skimming off the top 272 00:15:37,469 --> 00:15:40,171 at the Buick dealership. 273 00:15:40,171 --> 00:15:44,209 You look in the '70s, all the New York newspapers 274 00:15:44,209 --> 00:15:47,812 were filled with mob killings. 275 00:15:47,812 --> 00:15:51,683 The type of things that were ripped out of "The Godfather." 276 00:15:51,683 --> 00:15:55,654 You know, was it a mob hit? I don't know. 277 00:15:57,689 --> 00:15:59,491 But not everyone's convinced 278 00:15:59,491 --> 00:16:02,060 the mob is responsible. 279 00:16:02,060 --> 00:16:04,696 There had been an unwritten law within 280 00:16:04,696 --> 00:16:08,500 the families of not attacking children. 281 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:10,001 So that made it a little bizarre 282 00:16:10,001 --> 00:16:13,038 the thought that it might have been a mob hit. 283 00:16:13,038 --> 00:16:15,440 For Amityville, it's not a place where a lot of crime 284 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,976 was happening in those days. 285 00:16:17,976 --> 00:16:20,879 They probably had, you know, two police officers and a stop sign. 286 00:16:20,879 --> 00:16:24,282 They had to call in outside police from Suffolk County 287 00:16:24,282 --> 00:16:27,018 in order to help assist in this investigation because 288 00:16:27,018 --> 00:16:30,989 if you've never even processed one murder, let alone six, 289 00:16:30,989 --> 00:16:32,490 how are you gonna be able to handle something 290 00:16:32,490 --> 00:16:35,460 of this magnitude on your own? 291 00:16:35,460 --> 00:16:36,995 Ronald is being safeguarded 292 00:16:36,995 --> 00:16:39,397 by the Suffolk County Police at this time. 293 00:16:39,397 --> 00:16:41,299 Why safeguarded? Why? 294 00:16:41,299 --> 00:16:43,802 Because there's six members of the family dead 295 00:16:43,802 --> 00:16:45,503 and we don't know why. 296 00:16:45,503 --> 00:16:47,072 And he's the sole remaining member. 297 00:16:49,140 --> 00:16:51,910 When you consider that an entire family was taken out, 298 00:16:51,910 --> 00:16:53,244 it only becomes logical to think 299 00:16:53,244 --> 00:16:56,181 that the surviving member might be a target. 300 00:16:56,181 --> 00:16:59,250 So, Ronnie was taken into protective custody just in case 301 00:16:59,250 --> 00:17:04,022 it was a mob hit and that he might still be in danger. 302 00:17:04,022 --> 00:17:07,392 When police question 23-year-old Butch DeFeo, 303 00:17:07,392 --> 00:17:11,429 he echoes the mob theory. 304 00:17:11,429 --> 00:17:13,031 As police question him, 305 00:17:13,031 --> 00:17:16,368 he suggested that his parents and his four siblings 306 00:17:16,368 --> 00:17:19,104 were victims of a mob hitman. 307 00:17:19,104 --> 00:17:23,875 He tried to claim that the infamous mobster Lou Fellini 308 00:17:23,875 --> 00:17:26,277 did it, but he had an airtight alibi. 309 00:17:26,277 --> 00:17:29,447 He wasn't even in the state at the time. 310 00:17:29,447 --> 00:17:32,283 So, cross that one off the list. 311 00:17:32,283 --> 00:17:34,319 Investigators are beginning to believe 312 00:17:34,319 --> 00:17:39,257 the real suspect is staring them right in the face. 313 00:17:39,257 --> 00:17:40,592 Everyone pointing, 314 00:17:40,592 --> 00:17:43,762 could it have been the only surviving son? 315 00:17:43,762 --> 00:17:45,330 But what was the motive? 316 00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:47,265 Why did he want to do this? 317 00:17:47,265 --> 00:17:51,569 What the detectives seemed to come to terms with 318 00:17:51,569 --> 00:17:53,271 as for a motive was money. 319 00:17:55,106 --> 00:17:58,843 They soon discover Big Ronnie had a $200,000 320 00:17:58,843 --> 00:18:01,946 life insurance policy. 321 00:18:01,946 --> 00:18:05,750 Besides this, there were talks about parents having 322 00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:11,089 100,000 or $200,000 in cash in the house. 323 00:18:13,191 --> 00:18:15,026 The kind of money Butch could use 324 00:18:15,026 --> 00:18:17,395 to make a new life for himself 325 00:18:17,395 --> 00:18:23,168 far away from the reputation he'd built in Amityville. 326 00:18:23,168 --> 00:18:26,071 Ronnie, he was a difficult kid growing up. 327 00:18:26,071 --> 00:18:27,772 I think he got into a lot of bad things, 328 00:18:27,772 --> 00:18:29,541 a lot of bad circles. 329 00:18:29,541 --> 00:18:32,544 To kind of deal with him being kicked out of school, 330 00:18:32,544 --> 00:18:35,313 they offer him a job at the dealership in the family. 331 00:18:35,313 --> 00:18:39,584 And he started working as a mechanic there. 332 00:18:39,584 --> 00:18:41,219 He had a job as a gofer. 333 00:18:41,219 --> 00:18:44,022 He was an errand boy for his grandfather. 334 00:18:44,022 --> 00:18:45,390 So he made some money, 335 00:18:45,390 --> 00:18:47,992 plus his father would give him an allowance, 336 00:18:47,992 --> 00:18:50,495 sometimes several hundred dollars a week. 337 00:18:50,495 --> 00:18:54,799 He had a stereo system. He had guns in the house. 338 00:18:54,799 --> 00:18:57,035 He had a car. He had a boat. 339 00:18:57,035 --> 00:18:58,803 He had a lot of spending money. 340 00:18:58,803 --> 00:19:03,975 And yet that wasn't enough for Butch. 341 00:19:03,975 --> 00:19:05,844 Armed with this information, 342 00:19:05,844 --> 00:19:09,347 investigators sit down with DeFeo again. 343 00:19:09,347 --> 00:19:14,819 This time, the surviving son completely changes his story. 344 00:19:14,819 --> 00:19:16,654 Under intense questioning, 345 00:19:16,654 --> 00:19:18,823 Ron finally confessed to the killings. 346 00:19:21,159 --> 00:19:26,531 And he said, quote, "Once it started, I couldn't stop. 347 00:19:26,531 --> 00:19:27,499 It was that fast." 348 00:19:31,603 --> 00:19:33,671 Ronnie was trying to say, oh, his memory was foggy. 349 00:19:33,671 --> 00:19:35,006 He didn't remember anything. 350 00:19:35,006 --> 00:19:37,342 But he told them, well, I dumped the rifle here. 351 00:19:37,342 --> 00:19:40,779 I dumped my bloody clothes down the sewer drain. 352 00:19:40,779 --> 00:19:42,914 That all turned out to be true, 353 00:19:42,914 --> 00:19:45,817 because they found it exactly where he said he put it. 354 00:19:48,219 --> 00:19:52,957 Now the investigation turns its focus solely on him. 355 00:19:52,957 --> 00:19:55,226 Ronnie is arrested for the murders. 356 00:19:57,962 --> 00:20:01,833 You couldn't think that Butch would've done that. 357 00:20:01,833 --> 00:20:04,035 I guess it was an explosion 358 00:20:04,035 --> 00:20:07,438 of whatever was going on in his mind. 359 00:20:07,438 --> 00:20:09,908 I don't know what happened. 360 00:20:09,908 --> 00:20:13,144 He had acknowledged that he had taken drugs, 361 00:20:13,144 --> 00:20:15,813 had alcohol that night. 362 00:20:15,813 --> 00:20:17,582 And the more investigators learn about 363 00:20:17,582 --> 00:20:19,784 the DeFeo family dynamics, 364 00:20:19,784 --> 00:20:25,723 the more they believe Ronnie was searching for his escape. 365 00:20:25,723 --> 00:20:28,393 He wanted to be an alpha male. 366 00:20:30,495 --> 00:20:32,330 He would fight with his brothers and sisters. 367 00:20:32,330 --> 00:20:33,998 He had to share a bathroom with the brothers. 368 00:20:33,998 --> 00:20:36,067 And he was saying his two brothers were little pigs 369 00:20:36,067 --> 00:20:37,936 because they didn't clean up after themselves. 370 00:20:37,936 --> 00:20:41,472 He didn't like his sisters' choice in music. 371 00:20:41,472 --> 00:20:46,377 So there was tension building in the house. 372 00:20:46,377 --> 00:20:49,547 Many believe it's this tension that led Butch 373 00:20:49,547 --> 00:20:52,183 to finally snap. 374 00:20:58,156 --> 00:20:59,190 The night of the murders, 375 00:20:59,190 --> 00:21:01,192 it was 3:15 in the morning. 376 00:21:01,192 --> 00:21:04,062 And Butch was sitting in the basement. 377 00:21:04,062 --> 00:21:06,397 And he had gone upstairs. 378 00:21:06,397 --> 00:21:09,801 He used two shots to kill each of his parents. 379 00:21:09,801 --> 00:21:12,070 And then he killed all of his siblings. 380 00:21:19,677 --> 00:21:20,979 One year later, 381 00:21:20,979 --> 00:21:23,882 Ronnie DeFeo's six-count murder trial 382 00:21:23,882 --> 00:21:28,253 begins on October 14, 1975. 383 00:21:28,253 --> 00:21:31,723 At first, he admits to the killings. 384 00:21:31,723 --> 00:21:34,292 The closest Ronnie ever, uh, 385 00:21:34,292 --> 00:21:37,295 explained as to why he did it, is because at that time, 386 00:21:37,295 --> 00:21:39,497 he felt that they were conspiring against him. 387 00:21:41,733 --> 00:21:45,336 But then, an even more terrifying story emerges. 388 00:21:47,038 --> 00:21:48,873 It came out that Ronnie heard voices 389 00:21:48,873 --> 00:21:51,342 telling him to kill. 390 00:21:51,342 --> 00:21:55,947 There was a--a shadowy figure following him through the house. 391 00:21:55,947 --> 00:21:58,082 He said it was the devil in the house 392 00:21:58,082 --> 00:22:01,185 that was at the root of the murders. 393 00:22:01,185 --> 00:22:03,288 Ronnie Jr. was fueled by drugs. 394 00:22:03,288 --> 00:22:05,556 And a lot of people who are involved in the paranormal 395 00:22:05,556 --> 00:22:08,927 will tell you that in itself can be a deadly combination. 396 00:22:08,927 --> 00:22:11,195 Once you start taking drugs, alcohol, 397 00:22:11,195 --> 00:22:15,400 and you've got a sort of demented personality that can 398 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:20,138 then go full blown into opening the doors for... 399 00:22:20,138 --> 00:22:21,706 demonic possession. 400 00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,443 Ronnie was taken over by the spirit 401 00:22:25,443 --> 00:22:27,478 that had him do these horrible things. 402 00:22:27,478 --> 00:22:33,318 Something, someone is taking over him and his body. 403 00:22:33,318 --> 00:22:35,253 A part of me wants to believe that there is 404 00:22:35,253 --> 00:22:39,724 some sort of entity telling somebody to do these things, 405 00:22:39,724 --> 00:22:42,860 whether you call that evil or whatever you call it, 406 00:22:42,860 --> 00:22:45,129 because we don't wanna believe that somebody's capable of 407 00:22:45,129 --> 00:22:47,065 doing this to their whole family. 408 00:22:48,366 --> 00:22:53,338 Soon, Butch's lawyer embraces his client's claims. 409 00:22:53,338 --> 00:22:57,342 William Weber comes up with what was very unusual 410 00:22:57,342 --> 00:23:00,044 and certainly very rare at the time: 411 00:23:00,044 --> 00:23:04,315 the devil made me do it defense. 412 00:23:04,315 --> 00:23:06,985 In other words, William Weber claims his client 413 00:23:06,985 --> 00:23:10,421 is legally insane. 414 00:23:10,421 --> 00:23:13,124 Whenever I have a client who tells me something 415 00:23:13,124 --> 00:23:17,395 that doesn't register as normal or sane, 416 00:23:17,395 --> 00:23:21,232 um, one of the things I have to ask myself is, 417 00:23:21,232 --> 00:23:24,936 is this person competent to aid in their own defense? 418 00:23:24,936 --> 00:23:27,071 So the first thing you would wanna do-- 419 00:23:27,071 --> 00:23:29,007 or I would do, anyway-- 420 00:23:29,007 --> 00:23:31,142 is I would have my client evaluated by 421 00:23:31,142 --> 00:23:33,778 a good expert. 422 00:23:33,778 --> 00:23:38,316 Weber consults a psychiatrist to examine DeFeo. 423 00:23:38,316 --> 00:23:42,086 He testifies Butch does in fact believe he heard voices 424 00:23:42,086 --> 00:23:45,857 telling him to shoot his family. 425 00:23:45,857 --> 00:23:47,425 On the defense side, 426 00:23:47,425 --> 00:23:50,027 you're trying to convince the jury that the person is insane 427 00:23:50,027 --> 00:23:51,295 at the time of the crimes 428 00:23:51,295 --> 00:23:54,365 and did not have control of themselves. 429 00:23:54,365 --> 00:23:57,068 Weber, in direct examination of his client, 430 00:23:57,068 --> 00:23:59,704 shows a picture of his deceased mother 431 00:23:59,704 --> 00:24:02,440 lying there on the bed surrounded by blood and says, 432 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,209 hey, is this--is this your mom? 433 00:24:05,209 --> 00:24:09,213 And DeFeo says, I've never seen that person in my life. 434 00:24:09,213 --> 00:24:12,183 Weber repeats this with a picture of his father. 435 00:24:12,183 --> 00:24:15,319 He denies knowing who that was. 436 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:18,623 From the prosecution's side, you show that whatever mental defect 437 00:24:18,623 --> 00:24:22,393 the person is suffering from, it's not significant enough 438 00:24:22,393 --> 00:24:24,362 to excuse the behavior. 439 00:24:24,362 --> 00:24:27,231 He clearly thought out what he was doing shortly 440 00:24:27,231 --> 00:24:29,600 after committing these murders. 441 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,770 He collected the shell casings, the rifle. 442 00:24:32,770 --> 00:24:35,573 And then he disposed of them in the sewer system. 443 00:24:37,442 --> 00:24:40,144 The trial lasts over a month. 444 00:24:40,144 --> 00:24:43,080 But after just two days of deliberations, 445 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,084 the jury rejects DeFeo's devil defense. 446 00:24:47,084 --> 00:24:49,854 The evidence all pointed to the fact that Ronnie DeFeo 447 00:24:49,854 --> 00:24:51,222 killed his family. 448 00:24:51,222 --> 00:24:53,658 The guy who is not only guilty of this, 449 00:24:53,658 --> 00:24:56,394 but is trying to weasel his way out of being convicted for it. 450 00:24:56,394 --> 00:25:00,531 And it's no surprise that they found him guilty. 451 00:25:00,531 --> 00:25:04,068 DeFeo is given six consecutive sentences 452 00:25:04,068 --> 00:25:06,370 of 25 years to life. 453 00:25:08,940 --> 00:25:11,375 Two weeks after Butch's conviction, 454 00:25:11,375 --> 00:25:13,845 he begins his sentence in New York State's 455 00:25:13,845 --> 00:25:16,647 Sullivan Correctional Facility. 456 00:25:16,647 --> 00:25:18,649 People thought that once Ronnie DeFeo was convicted 457 00:25:18,649 --> 00:25:20,885 of those murders, the story would end. 458 00:25:22,053 --> 00:25:24,722 They had no idea that that was only the actual beginning 459 00:25:24,722 --> 00:25:26,157 of the Amityville case. 460 00:25:28,292 --> 00:25:30,928 The sheer evil that would have to be present for 461 00:25:30,928 --> 00:25:36,000 a family member to kill six other family members, 462 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,268 it's unthinkable. 463 00:25:37,268 --> 00:25:40,905 That could only be precipitated by evil. 464 00:25:40,905 --> 00:25:43,107 It has been debated many times on whether or not 465 00:25:43,107 --> 00:25:45,510 this Amityville home is actually haunted. 466 00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:47,745 Many people believe that the spirits in this house 467 00:25:47,745 --> 00:25:49,413 possessed him to do it. 468 00:25:49,413 --> 00:25:51,282 The strange thing is, all members of the family that 469 00:25:51,282 --> 00:25:55,820 had been shot were found lying face down in their beds. 470 00:25:55,820 --> 00:25:59,023 I believe there still remain unanswered questions 471 00:25:59,023 --> 00:26:03,127 about the murders and what really happened in that house 472 00:26:03,127 --> 00:26:05,596 the night he killed his entire family. 473 00:26:06,831 --> 00:26:10,601 Was there a shadowy force telling him to kill? 474 00:26:14,705 --> 00:26:17,875 People are going to side one way or the other 475 00:26:17,875 --> 00:26:21,746 whether or not this is one of the most intense cases of 476 00:26:21,746 --> 00:26:27,518 demonic possession or if this is simply a person disturbed. 477 00:26:32,890 --> 00:26:35,059 I think what initially happened in the house with the DeFeos 478 00:26:35,059 --> 00:26:39,530 sparked some sort of... 479 00:26:39,530 --> 00:26:42,433 presence that lingered in the house. 480 00:26:42,433 --> 00:26:43,768 A presence that will 481 00:26:43,768 --> 00:26:47,338 drive the next family to move in crazy. 482 00:26:50,341 --> 00:26:52,109 Y'all have probably heard of "Amityville Horror." 483 00:26:52,109 --> 00:26:53,411 Did you know that it's a real case, 484 00:26:53,411 --> 00:26:55,313 and this house right here is said to be one 485 00:26:55,313 --> 00:26:58,349 of the most evil locations on earth? 486 00:26:59,584 --> 00:27:02,153 Just weeks after Ronnie "Butch" DeFeo 487 00:27:02,153 --> 00:27:06,657 is given six life sentences for murdering his entire family 488 00:27:06,657 --> 00:27:09,427 inside their Amityville home, 489 00:27:09,427 --> 00:27:12,763 a new family takes interest in the house. 490 00:27:12,763 --> 00:27:14,832 I described the house as "charming" the first time 491 00:27:14,832 --> 00:27:17,602 I saw it, 'cuz it's what I thought of it. 492 00:27:17,602 --> 00:27:19,437 30-year-old Kathy Lutz 493 00:27:19,437 --> 00:27:22,340 and her 29-year-old husband, George, 494 00:27:22,340 --> 00:27:25,409 have no idea of the brutal murders that happened here 495 00:27:25,409 --> 00:27:29,580 when they arrive 112 Ocean Avenue... 496 00:27:29,580 --> 00:27:35,286 nor DeFeo's defense that demons made him do it. 497 00:27:35,286 --> 00:27:37,722 saying, "Kathy, do you believe this?" 498 00:27:37,722 --> 00:27:39,590 And she said, "No, I don't believe this." 499 00:27:41,492 --> 00:27:43,260 They're just looking for a fresh start 500 00:27:43,260 --> 00:27:45,262 for their blended family: 501 00:27:45,262 --> 00:27:48,532 five-year-old Missy, seven-year-old Chris, 502 00:27:48,532 --> 00:27:51,569 and 10-year-old Daniel. 503 00:27:51,569 --> 00:27:52,903 They were looking for a place 504 00:27:52,903 --> 00:27:54,672 that was bigger for their family now, 505 00:27:54,672 --> 00:27:56,774 but also George could run his business from. 506 00:27:56,774 --> 00:27:59,377 And this house was perfect for that. 507 00:27:59,377 --> 00:28:01,879 Not only did it have all the space that they needed, 508 00:28:01,879 --> 00:28:04,248 but it had a boathouse for George's boat. 509 00:28:04,248 --> 00:28:06,384 It had storage space for his motorcycles. 510 00:28:08,819 --> 00:28:11,055 When they come into this home, they're, like, 511 00:28:11,055 --> 00:28:12,456 blown away by its beauty. 512 00:28:12,456 --> 00:28:14,125 And they know there has to be a catch. 513 00:28:14,125 --> 00:28:16,727 This is when the person showing the house says, you know, 514 00:28:16,727 --> 00:28:20,197 this is the one where the murders had occurred. 515 00:28:20,197 --> 00:28:23,668 And it wasn't a deal-breaker for them. 516 00:28:23,668 --> 00:28:25,703 They decided that getting a property like this 517 00:28:25,703 --> 00:28:28,906 for the bargain price at the time of $80,000 518 00:28:28,906 --> 00:28:31,776 was just something they couldn't pass up. 519 00:28:31,776 --> 00:28:35,680 The Lutzes even pay an extra $400 for the remainder 520 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,549 of the DeFeos' abandoned furniture. 521 00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:39,950 A lot of people don't realize this, 522 00:28:39,950 --> 00:28:42,286 when the police finished with the crime scene 523 00:28:42,286 --> 00:28:48,025 after the murders, there was still a lot of physical residue. 524 00:28:48,025 --> 00:28:52,163 Spots of blood on the-the walls, brain matter, 525 00:28:52,163 --> 00:28:53,964 holes in the wall with the bullets. 526 00:28:53,964 --> 00:28:56,801 In fact, the ammunition that Butch had, 527 00:28:56,801 --> 00:29:00,871 there were boxes of it up in his closet that the Lutz boys found 528 00:29:00,871 --> 00:29:02,039 and were playing with. 529 00:29:03,607 --> 00:29:06,644 But some believe the DeFeos' discarded things present 530 00:29:06,644 --> 00:29:10,181 unforeseen evils for their new owners. 531 00:29:10,181 --> 00:29:11,782 If an inanimate object 532 00:29:11,782 --> 00:29:15,720 happened to be in close proximity to a traumatic event 533 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,424 that was the catalyst for the evil 534 00:29:20,424 --> 00:29:23,928 in the case of a murder like what happened there, 535 00:29:23,928 --> 00:29:28,232 then it stands to reason that any object that was in the house 536 00:29:28,232 --> 00:29:30,534 at the time that the murders took place could have absorbed 537 00:29:30,534 --> 00:29:33,671 that same energy. 538 00:29:33,671 --> 00:29:35,039 I know personally, 539 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:36,440 I wouldn't have bought any of that furniture, 540 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,842 especially the beds. 541 00:29:40,478 --> 00:29:42,113 When something happens like that, 542 00:29:42,113 --> 00:29:46,383 I don't see any reason why someone would wanna, you know, 543 00:29:46,383 --> 00:29:48,152 continue to linger and use those beds, 544 00:29:48,152 --> 00:29:50,488 especially for their children. 545 00:29:50,488 --> 00:29:52,523 They didn't get rid of anything. 546 00:29:52,523 --> 00:29:54,759 And that's not to put blame on them at all. 547 00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:56,694 I mean, yes, I have moved into places 548 00:29:56,694 --> 00:29:58,195 and bought the furniture in there, 549 00:29:58,195 --> 00:30:01,565 but not where somebody was killed brutally in their sleep. 550 00:30:06,303 --> 00:30:07,438 Given the home's bloody 551 00:30:07,438 --> 00:30:10,174 and potentially demonic past, 552 00:30:10,174 --> 00:30:13,844 Kathy Lutz decides to have a priest bless the house 553 00:30:13,844 --> 00:30:16,781 just in case. 554 00:30:16,781 --> 00:30:18,349 A blessing would have been 555 00:30:18,349 --> 00:30:20,317 a appropriate course of action. 556 00:30:20,317 --> 00:30:22,787 Even somebody that is non-practicing, 557 00:30:22,787 --> 00:30:24,422 if they grew up with the Catholic faith, 558 00:30:24,422 --> 00:30:27,491 there's always going to be some of those old habits within them. 559 00:30:30,761 --> 00:30:33,497 But this is no routine blessing. 560 00:30:36,333 --> 00:30:39,770 Four years later, in 1979, 561 00:30:39,770 --> 00:30:44,175 the priest finally reveals what happened in the house that day. 562 00:30:44,175 --> 00:30:46,911 Only if he can remain anonymous. 563 00:30:47,912 --> 00:30:53,417 I was blessing, um, the sewing room. 564 00:30:53,417 --> 00:30:55,686 It was cold. It was really cold in there. 565 00:30:55,686 --> 00:30:59,023 And I thought, "Gee, this is peculiar." 566 00:30:59,023 --> 00:31:02,459 Because it was a lovely day out and... 567 00:31:02,459 --> 00:31:05,396 I--I was also sprinkling holy water. 568 00:31:05,396 --> 00:31:10,201 And I heard a rather deep voice, uh, behind me saying, "Get out." 569 00:31:13,904 --> 00:31:17,141 The startled priest abruptly finishes his blessing 570 00:31:17,141 --> 00:31:19,310 and tells the Lutzes. 571 00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:22,179 "As long as nobody's sleeping in there, you're fine." 572 00:31:22,179 --> 00:31:24,615 And then he rushed out the door, 573 00:31:24,615 --> 00:31:26,217 which should've been a clue for them. 574 00:31:28,252 --> 00:31:31,322 Days later, the priest discovers mysterious 575 00:31:31,322 --> 00:31:34,992 blisters on his hands, like a stigmata. 576 00:31:38,028 --> 00:31:41,866 It's very common for victims of a malevolent attack, 577 00:31:41,866 --> 00:31:43,868 spiritual attack, or paranormal attack 578 00:31:43,868 --> 00:31:47,304 by some kind of potential demonic entity 579 00:31:47,304 --> 00:31:53,110 to experience a mocking of Jesus' life, his reality. 580 00:31:59,650 --> 00:32:01,685 Soon, the Lutzes begin encountering 581 00:32:01,685 --> 00:32:05,055 strange events as well. 582 00:32:05,055 --> 00:32:08,592 Suddenly George was, uh, furiously cold all the time. 583 00:32:09,894 --> 00:32:11,562 No matter what, he couldn't get warm. 584 00:32:11,562 --> 00:32:12,897 And he was constantly building fires 585 00:32:12,897 --> 00:32:14,365 even when the rest of the family 586 00:32:14,365 --> 00:32:18,535 was shedding off layers because he had them sweating. 587 00:32:18,535 --> 00:32:23,340 But he had this bone chill that he just couldn't seem to shake. 588 00:32:23,340 --> 00:32:25,009 What's fascinating about George's cold chills is 589 00:32:25,009 --> 00:32:27,211 he was the only one experiencing them. 590 00:32:27,211 --> 00:32:28,779 From somebody who's experienced cold chills, 591 00:32:28,779 --> 00:32:31,448 it's hard to describe. But it's a situation where 592 00:32:31,448 --> 00:32:34,051 you feel like somebody brushed past you. 593 00:32:34,051 --> 00:32:36,921 I mean, I'm getting chills just thinking about it. 594 00:32:36,921 --> 00:32:38,989 When you're there and in that moment, you're like, 595 00:32:38,989 --> 00:32:43,193 oh, this is--this is something. There's something here. 596 00:32:45,062 --> 00:32:48,332 George's personality changes too. 597 00:32:48,332 --> 00:32:52,570 He suffers unexplained bouts of anger, confusion, 598 00:32:52,570 --> 00:32:55,239 and loss of appetite. 599 00:32:55,239 --> 00:32:58,876 As the phenomena started to progress and worsen over time, 600 00:32:58,876 --> 00:33:00,411 George really started to notice 601 00:33:00,411 --> 00:33:02,813 that it was affecting him directly, 602 00:33:02,813 --> 00:33:07,818 including waking up every night at about 3:15 AM. 603 00:33:07,818 --> 00:33:09,420 Around the time some believe 604 00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:12,856 the DeFeo murders took place. 605 00:33:12,856 --> 00:33:16,727 It's also the time some call the devil's hour. 606 00:33:17,795 --> 00:33:21,198 Jesus was said to have died on the cross at 3:00 PM. 607 00:33:21,198 --> 00:33:24,301 And so the devil's hour being 3:00 AM 608 00:33:24,301 --> 00:33:27,871 is sort of a contrast to that. 609 00:33:32,076 --> 00:33:34,345 But it's not just odd behavior 610 00:33:34,345 --> 00:33:36,480 haunting the new residents. 611 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,949 When the Lutzes first moved into the house, naturally, 612 00:33:38,949 --> 00:33:41,151 you know, it has tons of space 613 00:33:41,151 --> 00:33:44,488 and lots of different rooms and areas to be explored. 614 00:33:44,488 --> 00:33:48,192 But there were also some areas they weren't expecting to find. 615 00:33:48,192 --> 00:33:51,996 Kathy Lutz discovers one such mysterious space 616 00:33:51,996 --> 00:33:54,598 while moving a bookcase in the basement. 617 00:33:54,598 --> 00:33:57,868 Much to my surprise, there was no wall behind it. 618 00:33:57,868 --> 00:34:00,971 It was the entrance into this small, 619 00:34:00,971 --> 00:34:05,009 brightly painted red room. 620 00:34:05,009 --> 00:34:10,247 And I was really surprised and alarmed by the find. 621 00:34:10,247 --> 00:34:12,449 Even the Lutzes' dog, Harry, 622 00:34:12,449 --> 00:34:17,588 won't go near the strange void known as the Red Room. 623 00:34:17,588 --> 00:34:22,092 Animals can definitely sense when there's something not right 624 00:34:22,092 --> 00:34:24,395 going on in the environment of something malevolent, 625 00:34:24,395 --> 00:34:26,230 of something, you know, dark. 626 00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:30,434 And Harry not wanting to go anywhere near the Red Room 627 00:34:30,434 --> 00:34:32,002 is something that 628 00:34:32,002 --> 00:34:36,240 we would expect to find in a legitimate case of demonic, 629 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:37,875 uh, involvement. 630 00:34:41,145 --> 00:34:44,848 But Kathy's bizarre encounters don't end there. 631 00:34:44,848 --> 00:34:46,750 She soon begins sensing the murdered 632 00:34:46,750 --> 00:34:49,820 DeFeo family's presence. 633 00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:52,589 Kathy was experiencing dreams of Louise, 634 00:34:52,589 --> 00:34:55,125 Louise's body being exhumed, 635 00:34:55,125 --> 00:34:57,027 the bodies lying on the floor in the same room 636 00:34:57,027 --> 00:34:59,063 where the family was placed 637 00:34:59,063 --> 00:35:03,767 before they were taken out by the medical examiners. 638 00:35:03,767 --> 00:35:06,904 And I know that she had continuously had dreams 639 00:35:06,904 --> 00:35:08,439 of her getting shot. 640 00:35:14,378 --> 00:35:19,016 Kathy also said that her aunt, who was a nun, 641 00:35:19,016 --> 00:35:21,852 came into the house to visit one day. 642 00:35:21,852 --> 00:35:27,825 And she left when she became violently ill. 643 00:35:27,825 --> 00:35:31,195 So, a lot of things were piling up. 644 00:35:32,329 --> 00:35:35,632 Then, Kathy's five-year-old daughter, Missy, 645 00:35:35,632 --> 00:35:39,269 begins experiencing her own phenomena. 646 00:35:39,269 --> 00:35:42,673 She claims to see the face of a red-eyed pig 647 00:35:42,673 --> 00:35:47,411 in her bedroom window and names it Jody. 648 00:35:47,411 --> 00:35:49,546 If there was a demon in the Amityville house, 649 00:35:49,546 --> 00:35:52,449 it's very likely that that was what was manifesting 650 00:35:52,449 --> 00:35:56,720 as Jody the red-eyed pig, and was appearing before Missy. 651 00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,256 It would be trying to gain her trust because 652 00:35:59,256 --> 00:36:03,427 the more it has attention, the more power it will gain. 653 00:36:03,427 --> 00:36:07,231 Children do see demonic entities first, 654 00:36:07,231 --> 00:36:11,068 before the adults are directly affected. 655 00:36:11,068 --> 00:36:13,904 Children tend to be more sensitive and more willing 656 00:36:13,904 --> 00:36:16,740 to experience it. 657 00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:20,310 It would not be outside of the realm of possibility that some 658 00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:24,281 malevolent force would seek out a child first because the child 659 00:36:24,281 --> 00:36:28,318 would be more likely to see and interact with them. 660 00:36:28,318 --> 00:36:31,889 I think if I had seen a pig face in the window, 661 00:36:31,889 --> 00:36:34,658 I would have run for the hills, absolutely. 662 00:36:34,658 --> 00:36:37,261 I'm out of there. 663 00:36:37,261 --> 00:36:39,129 But no one outside the home 664 00:36:39,129 --> 00:36:42,633 has any idea what's happening. 665 00:36:42,633 --> 00:36:45,969 I was in high school when they were in the house. 666 00:36:45,969 --> 00:36:47,604 And I used to walk back and forth 667 00:36:47,604 --> 00:36:52,910 to the high school every day, you know, five days a week. 668 00:36:52,910 --> 00:36:55,179 And I can't say I ever saw anything. 669 00:36:56,947 --> 00:36:58,749 As the phenomena worsens, you know, 670 00:36:58,749 --> 00:37:00,584 the Lutz family's trying to tough it out, 671 00:37:00,584 --> 00:37:01,785 and who can blame them? 672 00:37:01,785 --> 00:37:03,453 You finally got your dream house. 673 00:37:03,453 --> 00:37:05,222 What's a few ghosts? 674 00:37:05,222 --> 00:37:07,357 But when the Lutzes try to take matters 675 00:37:07,357 --> 00:37:11,962 into their own hands, it awakens an even darker force. 676 00:37:14,965 --> 00:37:16,366 Hey, everyone. 677 00:37:16,366 --> 00:37:18,435 Um, so I'm an Instacart shopper on Long Island. 678 00:37:18,435 --> 00:37:23,974 And I am often in the town of Amityville, 679 00:37:23,974 --> 00:37:28,111 which is where the DeFeo family murders happened. 680 00:37:28,111 --> 00:37:30,247 I view this house as, like, 681 00:37:30,247 --> 00:37:32,783 one would view the Empire State Building. 682 00:37:32,783 --> 00:37:35,852 Um, I just think it's a national landmark. 683 00:37:35,852 --> 00:37:38,789 There it is, y'all. This is Ocean Avenue. 684 00:37:38,789 --> 00:37:42,426 Right there, Amityville Horror house. 685 00:37:42,426 --> 00:37:43,560 It's beautiful. 686 00:37:51,702 --> 00:37:52,869 Within a week after 687 00:37:52,869 --> 00:37:55,372 moving into their Amityville dream home, 688 00:37:55,372 --> 00:37:57,874 the Lutz family begins facing a series of 689 00:37:57,874 --> 00:38:01,979 terrifying and unexplained phenomena. 690 00:38:01,979 --> 00:38:05,515 The spectral pig with the glowing eyes, 691 00:38:05,515 --> 00:38:08,952 disembodied voices, cold spots in the home, 692 00:38:08,952 --> 00:38:12,489 I've never heard of anything like this. 693 00:38:12,489 --> 00:38:14,992 Soon, the Lutzes begin to wonder if the house 694 00:38:14,992 --> 00:38:19,162 is haunted by the DeFeo murders after all. 695 00:38:19,162 --> 00:38:22,766 For somebody to be sleeping on the same beds 696 00:38:22,766 --> 00:38:24,301 and be in that same house 697 00:38:24,301 --> 00:38:27,704 and really not cleanse that space, if you will, 698 00:38:27,704 --> 00:38:31,608 I think that definitely has something to do with it. 699 00:38:31,608 --> 00:38:34,444 Desperate for help, George and Kathy call 700 00:38:34,444 --> 00:38:38,115 the local priest back for a second blessing, 701 00:38:38,115 --> 00:38:40,851 starting with the mysterious red room 702 00:38:40,851 --> 00:38:42,719 they recently discovered underneath 703 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,621 their basement stairs. 704 00:38:44,621 --> 00:38:47,524 He said no way was he coming back into their house. 705 00:38:47,524 --> 00:38:49,826 And that's when he revealed to them for the first time that 706 00:38:49,826 --> 00:38:51,695 when he had been there previously, 707 00:38:51,695 --> 00:38:53,730 something unseen had smacked him, 708 00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:55,666 and a voice told him to get out. 709 00:38:57,901 --> 00:38:59,403 If we can see it with our own eyes, 710 00:38:59,403 --> 00:39:02,572 it lends credibility to the fact that it would have been 711 00:39:02,572 --> 00:39:05,008 essential for them to get the help of the church 712 00:39:05,008 --> 00:39:07,010 to be able to rectify it. 713 00:39:08,545 --> 00:39:10,614 With no spiritual help on the way, 714 00:39:10,614 --> 00:39:13,317 the Lutzes take matters into their own hands 715 00:39:13,317 --> 00:39:15,919 and bless the house themselves. 716 00:39:15,919 --> 00:39:20,023 But their actions only further enrage the demons haunting it. 717 00:39:25,462 --> 00:39:27,197 When you're experiencing 718 00:39:27,197 --> 00:39:30,400 a paranormal encounter, your eyes focus, 719 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,537 and you see something that you can't explain, 720 00:39:33,537 --> 00:39:38,608 and then you need to assess, is this a danger to me? 721 00:39:38,608 --> 00:39:41,445 I think that you can stir up energy 722 00:39:41,445 --> 00:39:42,813 if you don't know what you're doing, 723 00:39:42,813 --> 00:39:44,348 or maybe that was the intention. 724 00:39:44,348 --> 00:39:47,985 You know, to try to create something or have this energy 725 00:39:47,985 --> 00:39:50,487 kind of come out of the woodwork. 726 00:39:50,487 --> 00:39:53,056 Some believe the paranormal activity haunting 727 00:39:53,056 --> 00:39:58,295 the Lutzes may be their own doing. 728 00:39:58,295 --> 00:40:01,398 George and Kathy practiced Transcendental Meditation, 729 00:40:01,398 --> 00:40:05,168 which in the 1970s sometimes was a code word for they were 730 00:40:05,168 --> 00:40:07,237 interested in the occult. 731 00:40:07,237 --> 00:40:08,438 Of that time of the '70s, 732 00:40:08,438 --> 00:40:10,073 it was kind of the thing to do. 733 00:40:10,073 --> 00:40:12,142 I know, I grew up in it. I. 734 00:40:12,142 --> 00:40:14,978 A lot of incense-burning and a lot of chanting. 735 00:40:14,978 --> 00:40:17,347 But, if they were into parts of the occult 736 00:40:17,347 --> 00:40:20,484 that are incantations of bad things, 737 00:40:20,484 --> 00:40:23,387 it's definitely inviting somebody in that 738 00:40:23,387 --> 00:40:26,790 you don't know who they are and where they come from, uh, 739 00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:28,291 to create a negative energy. 740 00:40:28,291 --> 00:40:32,396 And then things can happen that are really bad. 741 00:40:32,396 --> 00:40:33,797 You know, any kind of dabbling 742 00:40:33,797 --> 00:40:35,432 with any kind of occult forces 743 00:40:35,432 --> 00:40:38,835 is usually the recipe for disaster because very few people 744 00:40:38,835 --> 00:40:42,572 are properly trained in how to handle these things. 745 00:40:42,572 --> 00:40:44,608 After their blessing attempt, 746 00:40:44,608 --> 00:40:49,479 the dark energy within 112 Ocean Avenue only intensifies. 747 00:40:51,314 --> 00:40:54,985 Swarms of flies begin congregating in the same room 748 00:40:54,985 --> 00:40:56,620 where the priest experienced 749 00:40:56,620 --> 00:41:02,325 the mysterious slap in the face weeks earlier. 750 00:41:02,325 --> 00:41:03,460 That's usually the case 751 00:41:03,460 --> 00:41:06,196 when you have the center of the haunting. 752 00:41:06,196 --> 00:41:08,465 It's the place that nobody wants to go and the place 753 00:41:08,465 --> 00:41:11,168 where spending too much time in there will become overwhelming. 754 00:41:12,602 --> 00:41:14,738 If that were happening to me right now, 755 00:41:14,738 --> 00:41:17,174 I would have called somebody in to come and help me. 756 00:41:17,174 --> 00:41:19,509 I would've tried to do anything. 757 00:41:19,509 --> 00:41:21,878 But they kind of kept quiet on it. 758 00:41:21,878 --> 00:41:24,481 But the flies are just the beginning of 759 00:41:24,481 --> 00:41:28,385 the strange phenomena barraging the Lutzes. 760 00:41:28,385 --> 00:41:31,188 The boys, who were sharing the same room, said-- 761 00:41:31,188 --> 00:41:33,990 and they absolutely swear to this to this day-- 762 00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:39,196 that they saw sort of like a--a black amorphous figure. 763 00:41:39,196 --> 00:41:43,667 They felt like something like whooshed through them, 764 00:41:43,667 --> 00:41:46,203 like a spirit. 765 00:41:46,203 --> 00:41:48,872 Kathy herself starts levitating over the bed. 766 00:41:48,872 --> 00:41:52,375 And George sees this happening with his own eyes. 767 00:41:52,375 --> 00:41:55,111 Kathy looked at herself in the mirror one morning 768 00:41:55,111 --> 00:41:57,114 as she was washing her face. 769 00:41:57,114 --> 00:42:02,119 And her face transformed into that of an old hag. 770 00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:05,055 My hair turned color. There was no true color. 771 00:42:05,055 --> 00:42:08,458 It was a gray-white. 772 00:42:08,458 --> 00:42:10,527 My face was severely wrinkled. 773 00:42:10,527 --> 00:42:15,198 Ah, deep impressions coming down across the forehead. 774 00:42:15,198 --> 00:42:18,201 My mouth was very tight, very drawn. 775 00:42:18,201 --> 00:42:21,304 You have a potential demonic presence. 776 00:42:21,304 --> 00:42:23,106 You've got the flies around the window. 777 00:42:23,106 --> 00:42:26,343 You have the slime oozing from the walls. 778 00:42:26,343 --> 00:42:28,278 You have the black substances 779 00:42:28,278 --> 00:42:31,181 that are coming up in the sinks and in the toilets. 780 00:42:31,181 --> 00:42:35,051 This is absolutely terrifying. 781 00:42:35,051 --> 00:42:36,486 Whatever entities are there 782 00:42:36,486 --> 00:42:39,222 had quite an unusual strength. 783 00:42:39,222 --> 00:42:40,657 It would target the children. 784 00:42:40,657 --> 00:42:43,293 And it would start to attack them in their rooms. 785 00:42:43,293 --> 00:42:45,529 George tries to get out of bed to go and save them, 786 00:42:45,529 --> 00:42:48,031 and he's paralyzed. He can't get up. 787 00:42:48,031 --> 00:42:51,501 That's the amount of strength that was behind these hauntings. 788 00:42:53,003 --> 00:42:56,006 These kinds of things are things that we do see 789 00:42:56,006 --> 00:42:57,908 when we go and investigate a case 790 00:42:57,908 --> 00:43:00,277 and a person is experiencing what they think 791 00:43:00,277 --> 00:43:03,413 is a demonic problem. 792 00:43:03,413 --> 00:43:09,586 The same evil spirits that haunted Butch DeFeo. 793 00:43:09,586 --> 00:43:14,891 When the Lutzes stay, the dark forces grow even more powerful. 794 00:43:14,891 --> 00:43:17,861 George and Kathy describe coming down in 795 00:43:17,861 --> 00:43:19,129 the middle of the night 796 00:43:19,129 --> 00:43:21,531 and finding the sound of a marching band 797 00:43:21,531 --> 00:43:22,866 going through their house. 798 00:43:28,572 --> 00:43:30,540 Kathy, she finally had had enough. 799 00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:32,943 And the time came for the Lutz family to get out of that house. 800 00:43:34,611 --> 00:43:38,515 On January 14, 1976, 801 00:43:38,515 --> 00:43:44,154 George and Kathy gather their kids and dog and race to escape. 802 00:43:44,154 --> 00:43:47,457 But whatever is in that house starts targeting them. 803 00:43:47,457 --> 00:43:49,025 He's unable to pull out. 804 00:43:49,025 --> 00:43:51,661 It's like whatever is there is keeping them on that land. 805 00:43:53,363 --> 00:43:56,466 A young family that has invested everything they have 806 00:43:56,466 --> 00:44:00,804 into their dream home suddenly, after just 28 days, 807 00:44:00,804 --> 00:44:02,005 bolts from the property. 808 00:44:04,407 --> 00:44:07,444 They were genuinely terrified. 809 00:44:09,112 --> 00:44:13,249 But the Lutzes will return to their haunted home. 810 00:44:13,249 --> 00:44:15,552 This time, with reinforcements. 811 00:44:18,488 --> 00:44:19,723 Let's talk about the Amityville haunting. 812 00:44:19,723 --> 00:44:21,825 On November 13, 1974, Ronnie DeFeo murdered 813 00:44:21,825 --> 00:44:23,026 his two parents and four siblings. 814 00:44:23,026 --> 00:44:24,394 A little over a year later, 815 00:44:24,394 --> 00:44:26,096 Kathy and George Lutz moved into the home. 816 00:44:26,096 --> 00:44:28,198 They would only end up staying in the home for 28 days. 817 00:44:28,198 --> 00:44:29,399 They claim they had to leave the home 818 00:44:29,399 --> 00:44:30,634 due to paranormal hauntings. 819 00:44:30,634 --> 00:44:32,669 They claim some crazy shit in this case. 820 00:44:32,669 --> 00:44:35,005 Furniture flying across the room, Kathy levitating, 821 00:44:35,005 --> 00:44:37,540 green slime oozing from the walls, infestation of flies. 822 00:44:39,242 --> 00:44:42,746 George and Kathy Lutz fled in the darkness in panic. 823 00:44:42,746 --> 00:44:44,781 They said the house was being possessed. 824 00:44:44,781 --> 00:44:47,417 It was the occult. It was demonic. 825 00:44:47,417 --> 00:44:49,552 There was slime oozing from the walls. 826 00:44:49,552 --> 00:44:51,988 There were flies in the dead of winter. 827 00:44:51,988 --> 00:44:53,456 They heard voices. 828 00:44:58,061 --> 00:45:01,598 You couldn't have a--a more perfect storm 829 00:45:01,598 --> 00:45:05,869 or confluence of events if you even drew a Venn diagram. 830 00:45:07,537 --> 00:45:11,041 You have unseen forces, supernatural, 831 00:45:11,041 --> 00:45:13,710 that have driven this couple out of their house 832 00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:17,313 14 months after six people were violently murdered. 833 00:45:17,313 --> 00:45:19,449 Of course that grabbed everybody's attention. 834 00:45:25,588 --> 00:45:28,425 Soon, neighbors on Ocean Avenue realize 835 00:45:28,425 --> 00:45:32,395 the Lutz family car has been missing for weeks. 836 00:45:32,395 --> 00:45:34,264 Rumors begin circulating the family 837 00:45:34,264 --> 00:45:36,566 had experienced strange behavior 838 00:45:36,566 --> 00:45:40,070 and fled because they were afraid. 839 00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:44,007 The story filtered into our newsroom. 840 00:45:44,007 --> 00:45:47,277 Laura DiDio, who was an intern at that time, 841 00:45:47,277 --> 00:45:49,279 was ordered to go out to the house 842 00:45:49,279 --> 00:45:52,582 to interview the Lutz family. 843 00:45:52,582 --> 00:45:56,219 I spent five hours talking with them 844 00:45:56,219 --> 00:45:58,221 and getting them to open up. 845 00:45:58,221 --> 00:45:59,756 They were--they were scared. 846 00:46:01,624 --> 00:46:02,826 She came back. 847 00:46:02,826 --> 00:46:04,461 She said their story is incredible. 848 00:46:04,461 --> 00:46:06,496 And she talked them into allowing us 849 00:46:06,496 --> 00:46:08,998 to come in with a crew. 850 00:46:08,998 --> 00:46:11,868 I was hoping to get an exclusive interview with a ghost. 851 00:46:11,868 --> 00:46:14,671 Oh, an intrepid reporter, 852 00:46:14,671 --> 00:46:16,439 always looking for another interview. 853 00:46:23,413 --> 00:46:25,648 The reporters contact two of America's 854 00:46:25,648 --> 00:46:29,119 most renowned paranormal investigators for help, 855 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:32,255 Ed and Lorraine Warren. 856 00:46:32,255 --> 00:46:33,389 Ed and Lorraine Warren were 857 00:46:33,389 --> 00:46:36,593 a paranormal power couple from Connecticut. 858 00:46:36,593 --> 00:46:39,062 She had a gift that she could see things that other people 859 00:46:39,062 --> 00:46:40,330 couldn't see and sense things 860 00:46:40,330 --> 00:46:42,298 that other people couldn't sense. 861 00:46:42,298 --> 00:46:44,367 He was a Catholic demonologist, 862 00:46:44,367 --> 00:46:47,237 so they kind of meshed well together. 863 00:46:47,237 --> 00:46:49,873 They really pushed the envelope. 864 00:46:49,873 --> 00:46:53,409 They went to all of the biggest houses, 865 00:46:53,409 --> 00:46:57,380 the scariest--things that you don't wanna find 866 00:46:57,380 --> 00:47:01,351 under your bed at night, they were there. 867 00:47:01,351 --> 00:47:02,852 With the Lutzes' permission, 868 00:47:02,852 --> 00:47:06,389 the reporters and the Warrens meet at 112 Ocean Avenue 869 00:47:06,389 --> 00:47:11,194 to determine if demonic forces within really have haunted both 870 00:47:11,194 --> 00:47:14,964 the Lutz and DeFeo families. 871 00:47:14,964 --> 00:47:16,566 Lorraine said, "Before we go into the house, 872 00:47:16,566 --> 00:47:20,537 "let's just take a minute to decompress, pray, 873 00:47:20,537 --> 00:47:22,138 get yourself in the right frame of mind." 874 00:47:23,873 --> 00:47:27,944 We went into the house with the crew. 875 00:47:27,944 --> 00:47:32,081 And Lorraine didn't know which rooms belonged to who. 876 00:47:34,450 --> 00:47:39,255 When she got to Ronnie DeFeo Jr.'s room, Butch, 877 00:47:39,255 --> 00:47:45,128 she walked to the entryway, stood in the doorway, 878 00:47:45,128 --> 00:47:47,664 took one step in, and immediately backed out and said, 879 00:47:47,664 --> 00:47:52,635 "No, it's too oppressive here. I can't go into this room." 880 00:47:52,635 --> 00:47:55,738 But Lorraine can't escape this feeling. 881 00:47:55,738 --> 00:47:57,874 Even as her psychic reading continues 882 00:47:57,874 --> 00:48:00,643 on the home's second floor. 883 00:48:00,643 --> 00:48:03,546 She walked in the master bedroom. 884 00:48:03,546 --> 00:48:07,951 And she said, "Blood, blood, blood all over." 885 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,589 She sat down. 886 00:48:12,589 --> 00:48:15,825 She was having a very physical reaction to this. 887 00:48:15,825 --> 00:48:18,761 She got a migraine headache. 888 00:48:18,761 --> 00:48:20,697 Any type of place that has paranormal activity, 889 00:48:20,697 --> 00:48:21,965 even if you're not looking for it 890 00:48:21,965 --> 00:48:23,499 and you happen to stumble upon it, 891 00:48:23,499 --> 00:48:25,368 those different things that I just described 892 00:48:25,368 --> 00:48:27,837 are actually really common. 893 00:48:27,837 --> 00:48:29,639 You know, especially if you're in a place 894 00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:31,774 where six murders happened. 895 00:48:33,977 --> 00:48:36,946 I don't doubt for one second that they were encountering 896 00:48:36,946 --> 00:48:41,451 real paranormal entities during these experiences. 897 00:48:41,451 --> 00:48:45,421 Overcome, Lorraine abruptly ends their visit. 898 00:48:45,421 --> 00:48:48,958 But not before DiDio and her crew have enough material for 899 00:48:48,958 --> 00:48:51,561 an earth-shattering newscast. 900 00:48:51,561 --> 00:48:53,496 Then it really blew up. 901 00:48:53,496 --> 00:48:56,766 I would get calls from 20-year-old kids. 902 00:48:56,766 --> 00:48:59,469 Hey, can we go in there and spend the night? 903 00:48:59,469 --> 00:49:01,404 If the murders and Ronnie DeFeo's trial 904 00:49:01,404 --> 00:49:07,176 hadn't been taxing enough, now you've ladled on ghostbusters. 905 00:49:09,245 --> 00:49:12,515 People started to invade the... 906 00:49:12,515 --> 00:49:15,952 the quaint little village that we have. 907 00:49:15,952 --> 00:49:18,421 All we kept getting for the next couple of weeks is, 908 00:49:18,421 --> 00:49:21,257 when is the next installment? When is the next installment? 909 00:49:21,257 --> 00:49:25,361 From there on in, this took on a life of its own. 910 00:49:25,361 --> 00:49:26,763 The news director said, 911 00:49:26,763 --> 00:49:28,431 "Okay, we gotta go back in and do more on this. 912 00:49:28,431 --> 00:49:30,466 Follow up the story." 913 00:49:30,466 --> 00:49:33,036 On March 6, 1976, 914 00:49:33,036 --> 00:49:36,439 the news crew returns to the home with the Warrens. 915 00:49:36,439 --> 00:49:39,409 They're joined by George and Kathy Lutz, 916 00:49:39,409 --> 00:49:41,244 who haven't been back to the house 917 00:49:41,244 --> 00:49:45,982 since they fled in the middle of the night two months earlier. 918 00:49:45,982 --> 00:49:50,620 Unbeknownst to us, the Warrens had invited several of 919 00:49:50,620 --> 00:49:54,123 their psychic and paranormal friends. 920 00:49:54,123 --> 00:49:57,527 George Lutz had invited several other 921 00:49:57,527 --> 00:50:01,164 paranormal investigating agencies to come in. 922 00:50:01,164 --> 00:50:04,233 So there were about 20 people there. 923 00:50:04,233 --> 00:50:05,768 But the Warrens aren't just looking 924 00:50:05,768 --> 00:50:08,404 to conduct psychic readings. 925 00:50:08,404 --> 00:50:12,041 This time, they're going to try to conjure the spirits. 926 00:50:14,777 --> 00:50:16,045 We're back. 927 00:50:16,045 --> 00:50:17,413 And if you see it, there's the house. 928 00:50:17,413 --> 00:50:18,848 That's it, that's it. 929 00:50:18,848 --> 00:50:21,584 Now, notice how they've changed the, uh... 930 00:50:21,584 --> 00:50:22,719 The windows. 931 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,454 The eye--ooh. The eye windows. 932 00:50:24,454 --> 00:50:26,956 They're not-- They're not eye windows anymore. 933 00:50:38,501 --> 00:50:41,304 Nearly a year and a half after Ronnie "Butch" DeFeo 934 00:50:41,304 --> 00:50:46,075 murdered his entire family inside their Amityville home 935 00:50:46,075 --> 00:50:49,946 and three months after the new residents, the Lutzes, 936 00:50:49,946 --> 00:50:54,884 were chased away by a series of terrifying paranormal phenomena, 937 00:50:54,884 --> 00:50:57,320 renowned paranormal investigators 938 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,055 Ed and Lorraine Warren 939 00:50:59,055 --> 00:51:01,858 have returned to the Amityville home to try to 940 00:51:01,858 --> 00:51:06,229 conjure the spirits haunting it. 941 00:51:06,229 --> 00:51:08,631 They called the biggest names that they could, 942 00:51:08,631 --> 00:51:11,000 the best experts, to help with the house. 943 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,203 And they truly were trying to figure out what was going on. 944 00:51:14,203 --> 00:51:16,539 I arrived, and I walked into the house, 945 00:51:16,539 --> 00:51:22,045 and there were about 20 people sitting around this table, uh, 946 00:51:22,045 --> 00:51:27,850 with a, uh, blessed candle, crucifix, and, uh, two psychics. 947 00:51:29,152 --> 00:51:31,154 The best description of our reaction during that séance 948 00:51:31,154 --> 00:51:34,757 was one word: we're mesmerized. 949 00:51:34,757 --> 00:51:36,759 I feel personally threatened. 950 00:51:38,795 --> 00:51:41,831 It's something, it's--it's whatever's here. 951 00:51:41,831 --> 00:51:46,135 Whatever is here. 952 00:51:46,135 --> 00:51:49,072 And it's something that comes at you 953 00:51:49,072 --> 00:51:51,874 and makes your heart speed up, that kind of thing. 954 00:51:51,874 --> 00:51:55,044 So Lorraine was getting the perception 955 00:51:55,044 --> 00:51:57,246 that whatever this was, this was a demonic force, 956 00:51:57,246 --> 00:52:00,983 and it came from the bowels of the earth. 957 00:52:00,983 --> 00:52:04,087 She believed that the house had been possessed. 958 00:52:04,087 --> 00:52:06,522 There was an occult nature in there. 959 00:52:06,522 --> 00:52:10,026 At one point, Lorraine Warren said to me, "Marvin, 960 00:52:10,026 --> 00:52:12,061 this is the closest to hell I ever wanna get." 961 00:52:14,330 --> 00:52:16,099 Lorraine Warren's specifically saying that this is 962 00:52:16,099 --> 00:52:20,002 the closest to hell that she'll ever get is fascinating, 963 00:52:20,002 --> 00:52:23,239 considering all of the stuff that she has experienced. 964 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,774 When they held these séances, 965 00:52:24,774 --> 00:52:26,275 I don't think they were just trying to prove it. 966 00:52:26,275 --> 00:52:28,911 I think they were trying to stop whatever was happening. 967 00:52:31,380 --> 00:52:34,684 And soon, something does happen-- 968 00:52:34,684 --> 00:52:37,854 to the TV crew's cameraman. 969 00:52:37,854 --> 00:52:39,155 Steve gets to 970 00:52:39,155 --> 00:52:41,324 the top of the second floor stair landing. 971 00:52:41,324 --> 00:52:45,962 And all of a sudden, he turns around, 972 00:52:45,962 --> 00:52:50,566 and I saw his face go ashen. 973 00:52:50,566 --> 00:52:52,034 All the blood drained out. 974 00:52:52,034 --> 00:52:55,605 And he--I could see, he breaks out into this sweat. 975 00:52:55,605 --> 00:52:57,773 And his face is contorted with pain. 976 00:52:57,773 --> 00:53:01,544 And he doubles over, clutching his chest, 977 00:53:01,544 --> 00:53:02,745 and he said all of a sudden, 978 00:53:02,745 --> 00:53:04,981 he just got severe heart palpitations. 979 00:53:04,981 --> 00:53:06,849 And that had never happened to him before. 980 00:53:12,288 --> 00:53:15,391 If you're in a place where six murders had just happened 981 00:53:15,391 --> 00:53:17,627 13 months or so before, 982 00:53:17,627 --> 00:53:19,462 something like your heart pounding, 983 00:53:19,462 --> 00:53:21,597 that could be something that you're just not familiar with 984 00:53:21,597 --> 00:53:24,200 and you're expecting or anticipating the worst, 985 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,870 but can also be very common in any paranormal situation. 986 00:53:27,870 --> 00:53:30,373 The energy is from spirits that are left behind. 987 00:53:32,208 --> 00:53:34,877 Moments later, the Warrens' photographer captures 988 00:53:34,877 --> 00:53:36,913 this haunting image. 989 00:53:40,583 --> 00:53:44,921 It shows at the top of the stairs, in a doorway, 990 00:53:44,921 --> 00:53:46,622 what seems to be a little boy 991 00:53:46,622 --> 00:53:51,194 with very bright eyes lighting up and a plaid shirt. 992 00:53:51,194 --> 00:53:52,929 There are many people that feel that they actually 993 00:53:52,929 --> 00:53:55,665 captured the spirit of John Matthew DeFeo, 994 00:53:55,665 --> 00:53:57,900 who was the youngest of the DeFeo children murdered 995 00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:00,469 that night, coming out of one of the side rooms. 996 00:54:00,469 --> 00:54:02,138 There are others who say that it was actually 997 00:54:02,138 --> 00:54:04,507 one of the investigators that was there that night 998 00:54:04,507 --> 00:54:08,277 and was just captured in the IR light of the camera 999 00:54:08,277 --> 00:54:12,281 and had this weird, ghostly reflection in his eyes. 1000 00:54:12,281 --> 00:54:14,083 But when you see the photos side by side 1001 00:54:14,083 --> 00:54:17,220 of the supposed ghost boy and John Matthew, 1002 00:54:17,220 --> 00:54:20,623 it's hard to really ignore the similarities. 1003 00:54:20,623 --> 00:54:24,026 I was not there when the picture was developed. 1004 00:54:24,026 --> 00:54:28,164 And I cannot vouch for its accuracy, veracity, 1005 00:54:28,164 --> 00:54:32,101 or authenticity. I don't know. 1006 00:54:32,101 --> 00:54:33,636 It's easy in this day and age 1007 00:54:33,636 --> 00:54:35,338 to fake evidence like that. 1008 00:54:35,338 --> 00:54:37,707 Back then, it was harder to fake. 1009 00:54:37,707 --> 00:54:41,410 But could it have been possible that it was a ghost? 1010 00:54:41,410 --> 00:54:42,545 Absolutely. 1011 00:54:44,513 --> 00:54:46,349 Interest in the Amityville case 1012 00:54:46,349 --> 00:54:49,986 continues to build, sparking the curiosity of 1013 00:54:49,986 --> 00:54:53,522 legendary parapsychologist Hans Holzer, 1014 00:54:53,522 --> 00:54:56,492 who signs on to conduct his own investigation. 1015 00:54:58,728 --> 00:55:03,332 My father, Dr. Hans Holzer, was one of the most known 1016 00:55:03,332 --> 00:55:06,235 American ghost hunters of our time. 1017 00:55:06,235 --> 00:55:08,504 In the case of the Amityville story, 1018 00:55:08,504 --> 00:55:12,141 you've got both true crime and the paranormal. 1019 00:55:12,141 --> 00:55:14,877 Amityville, to him, was kind of falling in that, you know, 1020 00:55:14,877 --> 00:55:17,179 what do we do with this? 1021 00:55:17,179 --> 00:55:20,750 Holzer takes the investigation back to its roots: 1022 00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:23,286 the DeFeo murders. 1023 00:55:23,286 --> 00:55:25,221 Why would Ronnie act out in that way? 1024 00:55:25,221 --> 00:55:26,689 There's gotta be a reason why. 1025 00:55:26,689 --> 00:55:29,859 And that's really what he was trying to find out about. 1026 00:55:29,859 --> 00:55:33,195 Hans Holzer utilized what he called the Holzer Method, 1027 00:55:33,195 --> 00:55:35,531 which would involve him bringing the equipment, 1028 00:55:35,531 --> 00:55:37,099 similar to what you see paranormal researchers 1029 00:55:37,099 --> 00:55:40,102 use on TV today. 1030 00:55:40,102 --> 00:55:44,040 But he would also bring along with him a trance medium. 1031 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,075 If you're a deep trance medium, 1032 00:55:46,075 --> 00:55:48,444 essentially means that you are allowing your body 1033 00:55:48,444 --> 00:55:52,148 to be taken over to the said entity 1034 00:55:52,148 --> 00:55:55,518 that's in the environment at the time to speak through you. 1035 00:55:55,518 --> 00:55:58,754 And the medium of his choice then was Ethel Johnson-Meyers. 1036 00:56:00,790 --> 00:56:03,926 Once again, the Channel 5 news team joins 1037 00:56:03,926 --> 00:56:07,163 to document any paranormal activity. 1038 00:56:07,163 --> 00:56:10,366 Holzer had planned to go to the house with Ethel, 1039 00:56:10,366 --> 00:56:12,835 and could I meet him there, and could I do research? 1040 00:56:12,835 --> 00:56:14,537 I said, "Sure." 1041 00:56:14,537 --> 00:56:18,474 So the way Dr. Holzer did his investigations 1042 00:56:18,474 --> 00:56:23,145 was he had his recorder and five different Polaroid cameras. 1043 00:56:23,145 --> 00:56:26,816 So when Ethel went into a trance, that tape was running. 1044 00:56:26,816 --> 00:56:30,886 And then he would speak into the microphone to Ethel, 1045 00:56:30,886 --> 00:56:34,223 to the spirit "Tell me who you are. 1046 00:56:34,223 --> 00:56:35,658 What is your name?" 1047 00:56:42,331 --> 00:56:46,369 But Hans Holzer's video camera froze up. 1048 00:56:46,369 --> 00:56:47,870 And he says, "That's the first time 1049 00:56:47,870 --> 00:56:49,805 this has ever happened to me." 1050 00:56:49,805 --> 00:56:53,542 Hans Holzer wanted physical proof of what was going on. 1051 00:56:53,542 --> 00:56:56,345 He certainly believed the trance mediums that he worked with. 1052 00:56:56,345 --> 00:56:58,614 But he knew that if he wanted to convince people 1053 00:56:58,614 --> 00:57:01,417 that the paranormal was real, you were gonna have to show them 1054 00:57:01,417 --> 00:57:06,155 that photograph or that piece of film or that audio recording. 1055 00:57:06,155 --> 00:57:09,425 Holzer's Polaroid cameras are working, 1056 00:57:09,425 --> 00:57:13,095 and in this photo, capture a presence in the house. 1057 00:57:15,698 --> 00:57:19,168 The bullet holes leftover from the DeFeo murders 1058 00:57:19,168 --> 00:57:22,071 in this undoctored photo. 1059 00:57:22,071 --> 00:57:23,773 There is glowing light 1060 00:57:23,773 --> 00:57:26,442 that you cannot account for. 1061 00:57:26,442 --> 00:57:30,413 And that was something that he would be very excited about. 1062 00:57:30,413 --> 00:57:33,048 Yeah, something is still here. 1063 00:57:33,048 --> 00:57:36,585 Somebody is forming that energy. 1064 00:57:36,585 --> 00:57:38,654 Holzer's not the only one sensing 1065 00:57:38,654 --> 00:57:40,956 a disturbance in the home. 1066 00:57:40,956 --> 00:57:43,459 His deep trance medium, Ethel Meyers, 1067 00:57:43,459 --> 00:57:46,929 also detects an unknown force. 1068 00:57:46,929 --> 00:57:48,497 With a deep trance medium, 1069 00:57:48,497 --> 00:57:50,399 they're going to use your vocal chords. 1070 00:57:50,399 --> 00:57:52,034 Your voice will change. 1071 00:57:52,034 --> 00:57:53,969 Your facial expressions will start to shift, 1072 00:57:53,969 --> 00:57:57,139 almost as if you have a makeup artist molding your face 1073 00:57:57,139 --> 00:57:58,707 to look like a character. 1074 00:57:58,707 --> 00:58:02,077 It's really quite scary. 1075 00:58:02,077 --> 00:58:04,113 What came through was the spirit 1076 00:58:04,113 --> 00:58:06,382 of a Native American chief. 1077 00:58:09,585 --> 00:58:11,620 Hans Holzer himself would later explain 1078 00:58:11,620 --> 00:58:15,958 Ethel's experience in an interview with Marvin Scott. 1079 00:58:15,958 --> 00:58:19,228 On, uh, further investigation, I discovered that the house was 1080 00:58:19,228 --> 00:58:21,597 built on Indian burial ground. 1081 00:58:21,597 --> 00:58:26,268 And that aroused the Indian to a warpath 1082 00:58:26,268 --> 00:58:28,037 against anybody living in the house. 1083 00:58:28,037 --> 00:58:29,872 That's when the fun started. 1084 00:58:29,872 --> 00:58:33,042 Holzer told me during an interview that he believed 1085 00:58:33,042 --> 00:58:36,212 it was possessed because there was a chief 1086 00:58:36,212 --> 00:58:38,614 who was rebellious of the house being there, 1087 00:58:38,614 --> 00:58:40,583 and this was his way of responding 1088 00:58:40,583 --> 00:58:43,752 to get the people out of the house. 1089 00:58:43,752 --> 00:58:48,057 This was the occult that was occurring at 112 Ocean Avenue. 1090 00:58:48,057 --> 00:58:53,462 In my initial research back in early 1976, 1091 00:58:53,462 --> 00:58:56,031 I had gone to the Amityville Historical Society, 1092 00:58:56,031 --> 00:58:58,501 and I had seen that there were documents that there was, 1093 00:58:58,501 --> 00:59:00,336 in fact--the house had been built 1094 00:59:00,336 --> 00:59:04,340 on a Native American burial ground. 1095 00:59:04,340 --> 00:59:06,208 The house where Butch Defeo 1096 00:59:06,208 --> 00:59:10,312 murdered his entire family... 1097 00:59:10,312 --> 00:59:12,348 and later sent the Lutz family 1098 00:59:12,348 --> 00:59:15,084 running terrified into the night. 1099 00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:18,320 When people are slaughtered in their sleep 1100 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,123 the way that the DeFeos were, and you move into the home 1101 00:59:21,123 --> 00:59:22,925 and try to have a happy life right afterward, 1102 00:59:22,925 --> 00:59:24,627 I think there's no question 1103 00:59:24,627 --> 00:59:27,296 that you're gonna run into some terrible energy. 1104 00:59:27,296 --> 00:59:29,899 You're gonna run into some paranormal activity. 1105 00:59:29,899 --> 00:59:32,568 Holzer's findings further fuel the publicity 1106 00:59:32,568 --> 00:59:35,271 engulfing the Amityville case... 1107 00:59:35,271 --> 00:59:38,474 but nothing like what's about to come next. 1108 00:59:43,879 --> 00:59:45,514 The true story of the Amityville Horror house, 1109 00:59:45,514 --> 00:59:46,782 part two. 1110 00:59:46,782 --> 00:59:49,051 So the Lutz family moved in in December of 1975 1111 00:59:49,051 --> 00:59:51,887 and only stayed for a mere 28 days. 1112 00:59:51,887 --> 00:59:54,723 In that month, they experienced weird paranormal activity 1113 00:59:54,723 --> 00:59:57,927 such as eyes peering into the house from all the windows, 1114 00:59:57,927 --> 00:59:59,428 hearing unexplainable noises, 1115 00:59:59,428 --> 01:00:02,698 and even smelling really foul, bizarre odors. 1116 01:00:09,471 --> 01:00:13,576 In 1976, news of the Lutz family's strange encounters 1117 01:00:13,576 --> 01:00:16,712 within their recently abandoned Amityville home 1118 01:00:16,712 --> 01:00:18,948 makes headlines across the nation. 1119 01:00:21,217 --> 01:00:22,851 Things such as green slime, 1120 01:00:22,851 --> 01:00:26,689 flies all gathering in one area in the house, 1121 01:00:26,689 --> 01:00:29,992 disembodied voices, cold spots in the home, 1122 01:00:29,992 --> 01:00:31,927 Kathy levitating out of bed. 1123 01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:37,066 That same year, George and Kathy Lutz connect 1124 01:00:37,066 --> 01:00:42,237 with author Jay Anson to share their terrifying story. 1125 01:00:42,237 --> 01:00:49,044 They had sent him 45 hours of taped conversations. 1126 01:00:49,044 --> 01:00:50,512 I'm a journalist. 1127 01:00:52,081 --> 01:00:54,116 I try to investigate as best as I can. 1128 01:00:54,116 --> 01:00:57,453 I was able to put together a chronology of the events that 1129 01:00:57,453 --> 01:01:01,190 took place within that framework of 28 days. 1130 01:01:01,190 --> 01:01:04,293 I sincerely believe they took place. 1131 01:01:07,029 --> 01:01:09,531 The book is an instant bestseller, 1132 01:01:09,531 --> 01:01:11,500 capturing in chilling detail 1133 01:01:11,500 --> 01:01:14,403 the story of both the brutal DeFeo murders 1134 01:01:14,403 --> 01:01:18,641 and the subsequent hauntings experienced by the Lutzes. 1135 01:01:18,641 --> 01:01:22,711 People ate it up. And it takes off. 1136 01:01:22,711 --> 01:01:25,114 Americans love a good ghost story. 1137 01:01:25,114 --> 01:01:26,882 And there's no better ghost story 1138 01:01:26,882 --> 01:01:28,951 than the one that comes out of Amityville. 1139 01:01:30,886 --> 01:01:35,224 So in 1977, author Jay Anson adapts their story into 1140 01:01:35,224 --> 01:01:37,559 his novel, "The Amityville Horror." 1141 01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:39,194 And I saw the cover. 1142 01:01:39,194 --> 01:01:41,030 I saw the logo with the devil tail. 1143 01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:44,166 And then I saw the words "Based on a true story." 1144 01:01:44,166 --> 01:01:46,769 And that just captured my attention right then and there. 1145 01:01:46,769 --> 01:01:49,638 I became obsessed with this case. 1146 01:01:49,638 --> 01:01:52,174 I got interested originally 1147 01:01:52,174 --> 01:01:54,243 in the Amityville story 1148 01:01:54,243 --> 01:01:58,047 by seeing my mother and sister's reaction 1149 01:01:58,047 --> 01:01:59,982 to Jay Anson's book. 1150 01:01:59,982 --> 01:02:03,652 And when I picked it up, the house with the eye-like windows 1151 01:02:03,652 --> 01:02:06,455 just kind of called to me. It fascinated me. 1152 01:02:08,757 --> 01:02:11,994 Almost overnight, the quiet village of Amityville 1153 01:02:11,994 --> 01:02:15,898 turns into an unwanted tourist attraction. 1154 01:02:15,898 --> 01:02:18,567 I have to say from the time the murders happened, 1155 01:02:18,567 --> 01:02:24,339 the traffic on Ocean Avenue picked up unbelievably. 1156 01:02:24,339 --> 01:02:26,575 But the book is just the beginning. 1157 01:02:28,644 --> 01:02:33,549 In 1979, the motion picture "The Amityville Horror" is released. 1158 01:02:43,826 --> 01:02:46,161 The film grosses nearly $8 million 1159 01:02:46,161 --> 01:02:47,696 its first weekend-- 1160 01:02:47,696 --> 01:02:52,267 the equivalent of $30 million today. 1161 01:02:52,267 --> 01:02:56,071 "The Amityville Horror" was a classic horror film. 1162 01:02:56,071 --> 01:02:57,740 It still holds its own today. 1163 01:02:57,740 --> 01:02:59,708 Those little curved windows in the attic. 1164 01:02:59,708 --> 01:03:01,610 That stays in public consciousness. 1165 01:03:01,610 --> 01:03:03,912 It becomes an archetype. 1166 01:03:03,912 --> 01:03:08,450 Soon, a second wave of mania takes over the town. 1167 01:03:08,450 --> 01:03:09,885 Now, you all came up from Queens 1168 01:03:09,885 --> 01:03:12,421 to try to look at the house. Why? 1169 01:03:12,421 --> 01:03:13,956 I don't know. I haven't seen the movie yet. 1170 01:03:13,956 --> 01:03:16,625 I'm waiting to see the movie. Just, you know, beforehand. 1171 01:03:16,625 --> 01:03:17,993 After that, when the movie came out, 1172 01:03:17,993 --> 01:03:19,728 then it stirred up stuff in the village 1173 01:03:19,728 --> 01:03:21,563 and it really became more of a nuisance, 1174 01:03:21,563 --> 01:03:23,232 or it did--it was a nuisance, 1175 01:03:23,232 --> 01:03:25,067 with people coming by all the time, 1176 01:03:25,067 --> 01:03:28,537 looking at the house and walking on the property. 1177 01:03:28,537 --> 01:03:31,340 "The Amityville Horror" story 1178 01:03:31,340 --> 01:03:33,642 hit the American public consciousness 1179 01:03:33,642 --> 01:03:37,846 at just the right time for this to get a lot of play. 1180 01:03:37,846 --> 01:03:40,616 It was--in the years immediately following the release 1181 01:03:40,616 --> 01:03:43,185 of the book and the movie "The Exorcist." 1182 01:03:43,185 --> 01:03:44,553 And that kicked off an era 1183 01:03:44,553 --> 01:03:47,456 that we refer to as the Satanic Panic. 1184 01:03:49,424 --> 01:03:52,494 The movie comes out, and bam. 1185 01:03:52,494 --> 01:03:56,031 The legend is born, and it's in full swing. 1186 01:03:56,031 --> 01:03:58,834 People who were atheist, agnostics, 1187 01:03:58,834 --> 01:04:00,736 came out of that movie theater. 1188 01:04:00,736 --> 01:04:01,970 And the next thing you know, 1189 01:04:01,970 --> 01:04:05,841 people were sleeping with the lights on. 1190 01:04:05,841 --> 01:04:08,610 We have this fascinating paranormal story, 1191 01:04:08,610 --> 01:04:13,348 but also this murder trial where they try and use 1192 01:04:13,348 --> 01:04:15,851 demonic presence in court. 1193 01:04:15,851 --> 01:04:19,822 And it's something that's going to be debated forever. 1194 01:04:19,822 --> 01:04:22,324 I believe that something supernatural 1195 01:04:22,324 --> 01:04:24,393 occurred in that house. 1196 01:04:24,393 --> 01:04:27,196 Someone commented on one of my friend's videos and said, 1197 01:04:27,196 --> 01:04:29,131 "That was entirely a hoax." 1198 01:04:29,131 --> 01:04:30,799 Says who? Were you there? 1199 01:04:30,799 --> 01:04:34,136 Are you able to produce something that proves 1200 01:04:34,136 --> 01:04:36,805 one side or the other? 1201 01:04:36,805 --> 01:04:37,973 All of these people 1202 01:04:37,973 --> 01:04:39,842 skeptical about the Lutzes' story, 1203 01:04:39,842 --> 01:04:42,678 with people calling them liars and hoaxers 1204 01:04:42,678 --> 01:04:45,380 and saying that they're just in this to make a buck, well, 1205 01:04:45,380 --> 01:04:47,749 the only thing they can do to really defend themselves 1206 01:04:47,749 --> 01:04:51,653 and to make people believe them is to take lie detector tests, 1207 01:04:51,653 --> 01:04:53,121 which they passed. 1208 01:04:54,823 --> 01:04:56,358 Suddenly, the Lutzes 1209 01:04:56,358 --> 01:05:00,195 begin making appearances on national TV. 1210 01:05:00,195 --> 01:05:02,397 It was George that went on "The Merv Griffin Show" 1211 01:05:02,397 --> 01:05:04,199 and presented the ghost boy photo, 1212 01:05:04,199 --> 01:05:06,501 reigniting all the discussion and the debate, 1213 01:05:06,501 --> 01:05:08,270 whether or not there was actually a real haunting 1214 01:05:08,270 --> 01:05:09,705 that happened there. 1215 01:05:13,108 --> 01:05:15,410 Despite all the publicity, 1216 01:05:15,410 --> 01:05:17,880 there's one thing the Lutzes won't do. 1217 01:05:19,781 --> 01:05:24,219 Every TV network, every primetime news magazine show, 1218 01:05:24,219 --> 01:05:26,822 they must've been throwing blank checks at the Lutzes 1219 01:05:26,822 --> 01:05:28,023 to get the footage of them 1220 01:05:28,023 --> 01:05:29,858 walking through that house again. 1221 01:05:29,858 --> 01:05:32,461 But they just refused to do it. 1222 01:05:32,461 --> 01:05:34,029 For the next 50 years, 1223 01:05:34,029 --> 01:05:37,733 the entertainment industry cashes in with countless books, 1224 01:05:37,733 --> 01:05:39,768 documentaries, and movies 1225 01:05:39,768 --> 01:05:43,705 about the DeFeo murders and Lutz encounters. 1226 01:05:43,705 --> 01:05:45,474 I grew up learning about the Amityville murders because 1227 01:05:45,474 --> 01:05:49,845 this was actually my dad's first rated R film in theaters. 1228 01:05:49,845 --> 01:05:54,016 And to this day, he says it just scared the daylights out of him. 1229 01:05:54,016 --> 01:05:55,484 Here we are today with just about 1230 01:05:55,484 --> 01:05:56,919 20 Amityville Horror movies 1231 01:05:56,919 --> 01:05:59,821 just kind of snowballed after that book. 1232 01:05:59,821 --> 01:06:01,123 The thing about the Amityville case 1233 01:06:01,123 --> 01:06:04,927 is because it is such an iconic visual, 1234 01:06:04,927 --> 01:06:09,932 that that house has become a marketing cash cow. 1235 01:06:09,932 --> 01:06:12,367 No matter how bad the movie is, people are gonna buy it. 1236 01:06:14,603 --> 01:06:16,471 When I was 13 years old, 1237 01:06:16,471 --> 01:06:18,106 I went on my first date with a boy. 1238 01:06:18,106 --> 01:06:22,077 And his mother took us to see the Ryan Reynolds version of 1239 01:06:22,077 --> 01:06:23,211 "Amityville Horror." 1240 01:06:23,211 --> 01:06:25,948 I didn't know that it was a previous film. 1241 01:06:25,948 --> 01:06:27,716 I didn't know that it was real. 1242 01:06:27,716 --> 01:06:29,051 And then my parents were like, 1243 01:06:29,051 --> 01:06:31,186 that happened when we were younger, 1244 01:06:31,186 --> 01:06:33,255 and there was a huge film. 1245 01:06:33,255 --> 01:06:35,691 Then I started getting more involved with researching. 1246 01:06:35,691 --> 01:06:37,392 Like, how could this be real? 1247 01:06:37,392 --> 01:06:40,062 And then, you know, Googling "true story behind this movie". 1248 01:06:40,062 --> 01:06:42,998 And that's when I really understood it. 1249 01:06:44,866 --> 01:06:46,868 If it's one thing about the American people, 1250 01:06:46,868 --> 01:06:49,771 it's that we love and hate a mystery. 1251 01:06:54,276 --> 01:06:57,112 But one man may know the answer to what 1252 01:06:57,112 --> 01:07:00,949 really happened to the DeFeo and Lutz families. 1253 01:07:03,285 --> 01:07:07,222 Is this fact or fiction? It's fiction. Absolutely. 1254 01:07:10,359 --> 01:07:11,560 It's the anniversary of 1255 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,195 "The Amityville Horror" movie from 1979. 1256 01:07:13,195 --> 01:07:16,832 So I figured why not visit the actual house itself, 1257 01:07:16,832 --> 01:07:18,300 but in a respectful manner. 1258 01:07:28,176 --> 01:07:29,811 The fascination with the hauntings 1259 01:07:29,811 --> 01:07:34,783 inside 112 Ocean Avenue continues today. 1260 01:07:34,783 --> 01:07:38,086 We do get a lot of, uh, interest and tourists. 1261 01:07:38,086 --> 01:07:42,758 People coming in to look at the house and curiosity about it. 1262 01:07:44,626 --> 01:07:47,763 These hauntings and paranormal things 1263 01:07:47,763 --> 01:07:50,866 that just piques people's interest. 1264 01:07:50,866 --> 01:07:53,802 And it's just one of those human nature things. 1265 01:07:53,802 --> 01:07:55,504 But it's just not really fair for the people 1266 01:07:55,504 --> 01:07:56,772 that do live there, 1267 01:07:56,772 --> 01:07:59,608 for the intrusions they get on the property. 1268 01:07:59,608 --> 01:08:03,345 It's become a place where it's almost like a pilgrimage. 1269 01:08:03,345 --> 01:08:04,980 You really, for the most part, 1270 01:08:04,980 --> 01:08:07,516 get people that are just curious and interested. 1271 01:08:07,516 --> 01:08:11,219 But even when we come here to make peace with Amityville, 1272 01:08:11,219 --> 01:08:14,222 Amityville might not be ready to make peace with us. 1273 01:08:14,222 --> 01:08:16,725 It's not uncommon to be walking along the street, 1274 01:08:16,725 --> 01:08:19,361 and then seeing that car that's holding up traffic, 1275 01:08:19,361 --> 01:08:21,997 that's looking at the numbers on the houses, 1276 01:08:21,997 --> 01:08:24,866 and they're having a hard time finding that haunted house that 1277 01:08:24,866 --> 01:08:28,036 they think is haunted, and it's not. 1278 01:08:28,036 --> 01:08:31,206 There's been very happy families there. 1279 01:08:31,206 --> 01:08:32,908 The feeling that's left in that house now 1280 01:08:32,908 --> 01:08:37,813 is what is left over from what happened in 1974. 1281 01:08:37,813 --> 01:08:39,281 It's left an imprint on the house, 1282 01:08:39,281 --> 01:08:42,250 this horrible stamp on it for the rest of history. 1283 01:08:43,452 --> 01:08:47,222 An imprint left by Ronnie "Butch" DeFeo when 1284 01:08:47,222 --> 01:08:51,026 he suddenly murdered his entire family in cold blood. 1285 01:08:52,594 --> 01:08:55,130 Ronnie DeFeo said there is a demon there that 1286 01:08:55,130 --> 01:08:57,566 completely took over his body and made him all these things. 1287 01:08:57,566 --> 01:08:59,034 He heard voices. 1288 01:09:01,002 --> 01:09:04,372 But 21 years after failing to convince a jury that 1289 01:09:04,372 --> 01:09:09,010 the devil made him do it, DeFeo finally comes forward 1290 01:09:09,010 --> 01:09:12,414 to unburden himself with the truth. 1291 01:09:12,414 --> 01:09:18,386 In 1995, he says his demon defense was all a sham... 1292 01:09:18,386 --> 01:09:21,957 invented by his lawyer William Weber. 1293 01:09:21,957 --> 01:09:23,725 Mr. Weber tells me, "Look. 1294 01:09:23,725 --> 01:09:25,560 "We got 'The Godfather' and 'The Exorcist' 1295 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:26,862 "all in one here, Ronnie. 1296 01:09:26,862 --> 01:09:29,231 We're gonna make big, big money." 1297 01:09:29,231 --> 01:09:31,233 My lawyer told me what to tell a psychiatrist 1298 01:09:31,233 --> 01:09:34,603 so they would go along with everything. 1299 01:09:34,603 --> 01:09:38,840 William Weber came up with the creative defense that there was 1300 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,610 something supernatural involved in the house. 1301 01:09:41,610 --> 01:09:44,446 He had sold Butch DeFeo on the idea 1302 01:09:44,446 --> 01:09:46,982 that there was gonna be a book 1303 01:09:46,982 --> 01:09:50,185 and he would be famous, and there would be money. 1304 01:09:50,185 --> 01:09:52,454 It would be a relief if we could blame 1305 01:09:52,454 --> 01:09:55,323 the devil or demons or ghosts 1306 01:09:55,323 --> 01:09:58,527 simply because of the fact to know that your fellow 1307 01:09:58,527 --> 01:10:03,331 human being is capable of something so horrendous 1308 01:10:03,331 --> 01:10:05,167 is truly terrifying. 1309 01:10:05,167 --> 01:10:07,369 More so than any disembodied 1310 01:10:07,369 --> 01:10:12,707 or giant Jody the pigs, or oozing walls. 1311 01:10:12,707 --> 01:10:15,544 Weber continues this story with the home's 1312 01:10:15,544 --> 01:10:18,013 next residents as well. 1313 01:10:18,013 --> 01:10:19,447 After the trial was over, 1314 01:10:19,447 --> 01:10:22,951 I was introduced to George and Kathy, uh, Lutz, 1315 01:10:22,951 --> 01:10:25,954 who were then living in the DeFeo residence. 1316 01:10:25,954 --> 01:10:29,524 And they had approached me with an idea that, uh, 1317 01:10:29,524 --> 01:10:32,227 there were people interested with big money, uh, 1318 01:10:32,227 --> 01:10:37,699 in developing the demonism aspect of the DeFeo murder. 1319 01:10:37,699 --> 01:10:42,671 Bill Weber said the story grew over dinner with the Lutzes. 1320 01:10:42,671 --> 01:10:46,908 A matter of fact, he said it grew over a bottle of wine. 1321 01:10:46,908 --> 01:10:50,345 One bottle of wine? No, three bottles of wine! 1322 01:10:50,345 --> 01:10:54,816 And the story just grew and grew and grew. 1323 01:10:54,816 --> 01:10:56,885 The Lutzes themselves confirm 1324 01:10:56,885 --> 01:11:00,555 Weber's account to reporter Laura DiDio. 1325 01:11:00,555 --> 01:11:04,426 The Lutzes had taped a conversation with William Weber. 1326 01:11:04,426 --> 01:11:08,463 And they said, "Before we play this, 1327 01:11:08,463 --> 01:11:11,933 "we just want you to know we're not too proud of this at all. 1328 01:11:11,933 --> 01:11:13,435 We're very embarrassed." 1329 01:11:13,435 --> 01:11:16,738 And on the tape, I heard William Weber 1330 01:11:16,738 --> 01:11:18,106 was leading the charge, 1331 01:11:18,106 --> 01:11:22,077 which was we should be able to get several movies 1332 01:11:22,077 --> 01:11:24,179 and several books out of it, at least. 1333 01:11:24,179 --> 01:11:29,718 Which, again, going back to 1975, '76, 1334 01:11:29,718 --> 01:11:31,820 that's pretty good marketing. 1335 01:11:31,820 --> 01:11:35,390 He already had franchise in mind. 1336 01:11:35,390 --> 01:11:37,926 But not everyone reaps the reward. 1337 01:11:39,127 --> 01:11:40,829 The Lutzes, of all the money that was made 1338 01:11:40,829 --> 01:11:42,264 on the films and the books, 1339 01:11:42,264 --> 01:11:43,865 they made very little out of this. 1340 01:11:43,865 --> 01:11:46,101 I think the total they ever saw, if the figure is correct, 1341 01:11:46,101 --> 01:11:48,136 something like $300,000. 1342 01:11:48,136 --> 01:11:52,440 But millions were made on the films and the books. 1343 01:11:52,440 --> 01:11:54,042 The defense lawyer, William Weber, 1344 01:11:54,042 --> 01:11:56,177 definitely took advantage of the time period 1345 01:11:56,177 --> 01:11:59,781 and the Satanic Panic going on. I think a lot of the stories 1346 01:11:59,781 --> 01:12:01,616 that we hear of this Amityville home 1347 01:12:01,616 --> 01:12:04,419 are a snowball effect, where we start off with 1348 01:12:04,419 --> 01:12:08,290 one thing spooky, and then you kind of add to that, 1349 01:12:08,290 --> 01:12:10,625 and then from there, it just keeps going, and going, 1350 01:12:10,625 --> 01:12:15,263 and it becomes something so much greater than it was meant to. 1351 01:12:15,263 --> 01:12:17,165 It's kind of like the little telephone game you played 1352 01:12:17,165 --> 01:12:18,967 in--in grade school, you know? 1353 01:12:18,967 --> 01:12:21,569 You're always gonna have controversy, 1354 01:12:21,569 --> 01:12:24,506 people saying this was, uh...not authentic, 1355 01:12:24,506 --> 01:12:26,775 and other people saying, no, it really happened. 1356 01:12:26,775 --> 01:12:28,310 The truth is always in the middle. 1357 01:12:29,744 --> 01:12:32,247 And nothing is more shocking than the truth 1358 01:12:32,247 --> 01:12:36,051 DeFeo admits to next. 1359 01:12:36,051 --> 01:12:37,619 I can honestly say that I'm not guilty. 1360 01:12:40,622 --> 01:12:42,757 The Lutz family, they moved into the house 1361 01:12:42,757 --> 01:12:44,492 in December of 1975. 1362 01:12:44,492 --> 01:12:47,529 However, they only lived in the house for 28 days. 1363 01:12:47,529 --> 01:12:49,164 They started talking to the media about the fact 1364 01:12:49,164 --> 01:12:50,432 that the house was haunted. 1365 01:12:50,432 --> 01:12:52,467 And this is when people started suspecting 1366 01:12:52,467 --> 01:12:56,705 that they were making up the story for fame or notoriety. 1367 01:12:56,705 --> 01:13:00,241 After admitting his devil defense was a sham, 1368 01:13:00,241 --> 01:13:04,612 in 1995, Ronnie "Butch" DeFeo decides he can no longer 1369 01:13:04,612 --> 01:13:09,150 hold back his family's darkest secret. 1370 01:13:09,150 --> 01:13:12,987 He finally comes clean 1371 01:13:12,987 --> 01:13:17,225 what really happened inside their home that horrific night. 1372 01:13:18,860 --> 01:13:21,663 My sister had come to a point in her life where 1373 01:13:21,663 --> 01:13:23,198 she wanted to be rebellious. 1374 01:13:23,198 --> 01:13:25,333 She wanted to get out of the house. 1375 01:13:25,333 --> 01:13:28,570 And you couldn't be free and be a DeFeo. 1376 01:13:28,570 --> 01:13:30,638 In that house, nobody could be free. 1377 01:13:30,638 --> 01:13:35,343 You have to go a step back and to understand that 1378 01:13:35,343 --> 01:13:39,147 the DeFeo household was a ticking time bomb. 1379 01:13:39,147 --> 01:13:44,319 There was greed, drugs, organized crime involvement. 1380 01:13:44,319 --> 01:13:47,856 The family had a horrible amount of domestic abuse 1381 01:13:47,856 --> 01:13:52,627 from the father, Big Ronnie Sr. 1382 01:13:52,627 --> 01:13:54,529 According to Butch's account, 1383 01:13:54,529 --> 01:13:58,466 18-year-old Dawn DeFeo wanted out. 1384 01:13:58,466 --> 01:14:03,004 And on the night of November 13, 1974, 1385 01:14:03,004 --> 01:14:06,341 she was ready to kill for her freedom. 1386 01:14:06,341 --> 01:14:11,312 According to Butch DeFeo, Dawn was pressing and pressing. 1387 01:14:11,312 --> 01:14:16,117 She's the one that brought the rifle down to Butch and said, 1388 01:14:16,117 --> 01:14:18,019 "We gotta do it. We gotta do it now. 1389 01:14:18,019 --> 01:14:19,788 If we don't do, we're never gonna be free." 1390 01:14:21,022 --> 01:14:22,323 I got high. 1391 01:14:22,323 --> 01:14:24,426 And I was using a lot of heroin back then. 1392 01:14:24,426 --> 01:14:27,962 I had gone down the basement, had the TV on. 1393 01:14:27,962 --> 01:14:30,331 But a stoned Butch dismisses 1394 01:14:30,331 --> 01:14:32,734 his sister's ramblings. 1395 01:14:32,734 --> 01:14:35,170 My mother and father apparently went to bed. 1396 01:14:35,170 --> 01:14:36,571 Everybody went to bed. 1397 01:14:38,139 --> 01:14:39,174 You gotta remember now, I'm high. 1398 01:14:39,174 --> 01:14:41,376 I'm still drunk. 1399 01:14:41,376 --> 01:14:44,245 And then I heard a roar. 1400 01:14:44,245 --> 01:14:48,917 I went upstairs, it was a bad smell. 1401 01:14:48,917 --> 01:14:51,686 At that time, I didn't realize what the smell was. 1402 01:14:51,686 --> 01:14:53,688 It was sulfur. 1403 01:14:53,688 --> 01:14:56,157 Went into my mother and father's room. 1404 01:14:56,157 --> 01:14:58,159 And I saw a hole in my father's back. 1405 01:15:01,930 --> 01:15:05,600 Beside Ronnie Sr., Butch's mother, Louise. 1406 01:15:08,269 --> 01:15:11,706 And the horror continues. 1407 01:15:11,706 --> 01:15:13,041 I turned around, 1408 01:15:13,041 --> 01:15:14,676 and my sister's room was directly across. 1409 01:15:14,676 --> 01:15:17,011 And, uh, she had a hole in the side of her head, 1410 01:15:17,011 --> 01:15:20,215 and it was blood coming down. 1411 01:15:20,215 --> 01:15:23,418 13-year-old Allison DeFeo. 1412 01:15:23,418 --> 01:15:24,986 She had a pink shag rug. 1413 01:15:24,986 --> 01:15:26,821 I'll never forget that. 1414 01:15:26,821 --> 01:15:31,392 Next, Butch discovers 12-year-old Marc, 1415 01:15:31,392 --> 01:15:34,262 and the youngest member of the DeFeo family, 1416 01:15:34,262 --> 01:15:37,665 nine-year-old John Matthew. 1417 01:15:37,665 --> 01:15:41,269 Both of my brothers' rooms, they were dead. 1418 01:15:41,269 --> 01:15:44,305 Then comes Butch's biggest shock. 1419 01:15:44,305 --> 01:15:47,976 His sister Dawn is still alive. 1420 01:15:47,976 --> 01:15:51,779 And she's armed with a rifle. 1421 01:15:51,779 --> 01:15:54,716 I looked at her. She looked at me. 1422 01:15:54,716 --> 01:15:57,318 And we got into a wrestling match. 1423 01:15:57,318 --> 01:16:00,421 I took the rifle away from her. I shot her in the head. 1424 01:16:03,525 --> 01:16:05,059 Some of the forensics seem 1425 01:16:05,059 --> 01:16:08,930 to corroborate Butch's story. 1426 01:16:08,930 --> 01:16:10,064 When you look at it, 1427 01:16:10,064 --> 01:16:11,399 there's evidence that there was gunpowder 1428 01:16:11,399 --> 01:16:13,501 on the front of Dawn's dress and on her hands. 1429 01:16:15,970 --> 01:16:18,806 But others believe Butch actively helped his sister 1430 01:16:18,806 --> 01:16:23,044 commit the murder before he turned the rifle on her. 1431 01:16:23,044 --> 01:16:24,112 I have always maintained 1432 01:16:24,112 --> 01:16:25,713 there was a second shooter. 1433 01:16:25,713 --> 01:16:28,449 And I actually didn't realize that that was even a thing until 1434 01:16:28,449 --> 01:16:32,687 I looked into the actual files and found the evidence. 1435 01:16:32,687 --> 01:16:36,190 Herman Race, the retired New York City detective 1436 01:16:36,190 --> 01:16:37,825 working for the defense, 1437 01:16:37,825 --> 01:16:40,562 uncovered that there was more than one gun used, 1438 01:16:40,562 --> 01:16:43,231 and there was accomplices involved that actually kept 1439 01:16:43,231 --> 01:16:46,467 the kids quiet during the murders. 1440 01:16:46,467 --> 01:16:50,305 Remember, even if you just look at one murder weapon, 1441 01:16:50,305 --> 01:16:54,208 a .35 Marlin is so loud that you can go deaf 1442 01:16:54,208 --> 01:16:55,877 from the firing of it. 1443 01:16:55,877 --> 01:16:58,112 And this is a small house. 1444 01:17:03,017 --> 01:17:06,120 It's incredible that the victims didn't hear any of 1445 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,457 the shots over the 15-minute period. 1446 01:17:09,457 --> 01:17:11,159 But that's not all. 1447 01:17:11,159 --> 01:17:12,660 Not all the bodies 1448 01:17:12,660 --> 01:17:14,762 that were found in bed were shot in bed. 1449 01:17:14,762 --> 01:17:19,367 So, the police knew from day one that the bodies were planted. 1450 01:17:19,367 --> 01:17:22,337 Um, or at least the parents were made to look like 1451 01:17:22,337 --> 01:17:25,240 they had been sleeping peacefully. 1452 01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,575 I think that he staged the entire crime scene 1453 01:17:27,575 --> 01:17:30,778 and he cleaned it up himself before he did anything about it. 1454 01:17:30,778 --> 01:17:34,148 I can honestly say that I'm not guilty of the, uh, 1455 01:17:34,148 --> 01:17:36,017 crime that I was found guilty of. 1456 01:17:36,017 --> 01:17:38,820 I'm guilty of one act, and the act was manslaughter, 1457 01:17:38,820 --> 01:17:40,455 not murder. 1458 01:17:40,455 --> 01:17:42,290 Now, was Butch DeFeo completely innocent? 1459 01:17:42,290 --> 01:17:43,558 No, he was not innocent. 1460 01:17:43,558 --> 01:17:46,661 He had a hand in the murder of Dawn. 1461 01:17:46,661 --> 01:17:50,832 But he was adamant that he never planned or intended 1462 01:17:50,832 --> 01:17:53,034 the murder of the younger children. 1463 01:17:57,405 --> 01:18:00,908 But was Butch DeFeo telling the truth? 1464 01:18:00,908 --> 01:18:06,347 Was his sister Dawn both the main killer and the victim? 1465 01:18:06,347 --> 01:18:09,951 Or, was there truly a darker underlying force 1466 01:18:09,951 --> 01:18:12,487 at play within the home? 1467 01:18:12,487 --> 01:18:18,092 Something that drove Butch and the Lutz family to madness? 1468 01:18:18,092 --> 01:18:21,929 The DeFeo murders are quite an interesting case because it is 1469 01:18:21,929 --> 01:18:24,932 going to forever pull people in different directions. 1470 01:18:24,932 --> 01:18:28,736 Whether or not this is one of the most intense cases of 1471 01:18:28,736 --> 01:18:33,941 demonic possession or if this is simply a person disturbed, 1472 01:18:33,941 --> 01:18:36,878 wanting to do these things. 1473 01:18:36,878 --> 01:18:41,649 And on March 12, 2021, the mystery only deepens. 1474 01:18:44,385 --> 01:18:47,722 Breaking news. On March 12, 2021, 1475 01:18:47,722 --> 01:18:51,826 Ronald DeFeo Jr. died in prison at the age of 69. 1476 01:18:51,826 --> 01:18:54,028 So far, the cause of death is undetermined 1477 01:18:54,028 --> 01:18:56,431 until an autopsy is performed. 1478 01:18:56,431 --> 01:18:59,333 And if you don't know who he is, he's better known 1479 01:18:59,333 --> 01:19:01,836 as the Amityville Horror killer. 1480 01:19:01,836 --> 01:19:05,573 Yes, the one that all the movies are based off. 1481 01:19:05,573 --> 01:19:08,576 The cause of death is still unknown. 1482 01:19:08,576 --> 01:19:10,011 Once I heard about the death 1483 01:19:10,011 --> 01:19:12,413 of Ronald "Butch" DeFeo Jr., 1484 01:19:12,413 --> 01:19:13,781 I was like, I have to talk about this. 1485 01:19:13,781 --> 01:19:15,817 And I'm quite literally throwing makeup on my face 1486 01:19:15,817 --> 01:19:19,320 and trying to get a video out there on TikTok. 1487 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,489 It's a huge death. 1488 01:19:23,324 --> 01:19:25,626 When Ronnie DeFeo died, 1489 01:19:25,626 --> 01:19:27,195 people started coming again. 1490 01:19:27,195 --> 01:19:29,864 You get that traffic, and it just becomes more of a nuisance 1491 01:19:29,864 --> 01:19:34,035 than a positive thing for the village. 1492 01:19:34,035 --> 01:19:37,572 DeFeo's passing reignites a generation's 1493 01:19:37,572 --> 01:19:40,775 fascination with the legendary tale 1494 01:19:40,775 --> 01:19:45,747 and its haunting effects on not one, but two families. 1495 01:19:46,981 --> 01:19:51,786 The desire to hear more about it is seemingly insatiable. 1496 01:19:51,786 --> 01:19:53,588 And that brings people out. 1497 01:19:53,588 --> 01:19:58,993 And we are now into third and fourth generation 1498 01:19:58,993 --> 01:20:01,095 Amityville aficionados. 1499 01:20:01,095 --> 01:20:04,599 Somebody's still normal living in this crazy house. 1500 01:20:04,599 --> 01:20:08,936 The story of Amityville is never going to end. 1501 01:20:08,936 --> 01:20:13,474 It has already withstood 50 years, several films, 1502 01:20:13,474 --> 01:20:16,477 multiple documentaries, multiple books, 1503 01:20:16,477 --> 01:20:19,647 podcasts, TikTokers, YouTubers. 1504 01:20:19,647 --> 01:20:22,016 I think there's always gonna be that interest. 1505 01:20:23,918 --> 01:20:26,020 They claim that it's not haunted at all. 1506 01:20:26,020 --> 01:20:27,388 But I don't know. 1507 01:20:27,388 --> 01:20:28,856 I find that a little hard to believe here. 1508 01:20:28,856 --> 01:20:30,792 To be clear, everybody who's lived in the home since 1509 01:20:30,792 --> 01:20:33,194 has never had anything paranormal happen to them. 1510 01:20:33,194 --> 01:20:35,062 So I don't know, pretty iffy to me. 1511 01:20:35,062 --> 01:20:36,631 People like to debate these things. 1512 01:20:36,631 --> 01:20:38,866 And now you have social media. 1513 01:20:38,866 --> 01:20:40,535 And you've got the digital world. 1514 01:20:40,535 --> 01:20:43,905 And this is the granddaddy of all ghost stories. 1515 01:20:43,905 --> 01:20:45,706 And when you're talking about the supernatural, 1516 01:20:45,706 --> 01:20:48,943 you either believe it or you don't believe it. 1517 01:20:48,943 --> 01:20:51,446 I believe that something supernatural 1518 01:20:51,446 --> 01:20:52,680 occurred in that house. 1519 01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,416 Do I think it started with the DeFeos? 1520 01:20:55,416 --> 01:20:57,552 I don't know where it happened, 1521 01:20:57,552 --> 01:21:01,756 but I do not think that the Lutz story 1522 01:21:01,756 --> 01:21:04,125 was completely fabricated. 1523 01:21:04,125 --> 01:21:06,227 I think it's a great story, and I think it's a story that 1524 01:21:06,227 --> 01:21:08,796 will continue to be told from generation to generation. 1525 01:21:08,796 --> 01:21:13,668 It's a great topic up for debate. 1526 01:21:13,668 --> 01:21:16,771 When the legend becomes fact, you print the legend. 1527 01:21:16,771 --> 01:21:18,673 And that's where we're at with the Amityville case, 1528 01:21:18,673 --> 01:21:21,008 that no matter how much fact we can decipher 1529 01:21:21,008 --> 01:21:23,010 from what really happened and what didn't, 1530 01:21:23,010 --> 01:21:25,012 the legend is always gonna be stronger. 1531 01:21:59,313 --> 01:22:00,915 People think I'm obsessed with this. 1532 01:22:00,915 --> 01:22:03,551 But I'm okay with it. I am obsessed with it. 1533 01:22:03,551 --> 01:22:06,988 Ronald DeFeo Jr. has died in police custody. 1534 01:22:06,988 --> 01:22:08,856 So far, the cause of death is undetermined 1535 01:22:08,856 --> 01:22:11,259 until an autopsy is performed. 1536 01:22:11,259 --> 01:22:13,227 I am in Amityville right now. 1537 01:22:13,227 --> 01:22:16,631 Today is the anniversary of "The Amityville Horror". 1538 01:22:16,631 --> 01:22:18,132 And this house right here is said to be 1539 01:22:18,132 --> 01:22:20,902 one of the most evil locations on earth. 1540 01:22:20,902 --> 01:22:22,904 I just think it's a national landmark. 1541 01:22:22,904 --> 01:22:26,073 Right there. Amityville Horror house. 1542 01:22:26,073 --> 01:22:28,042 The kids of the Lutz family said that the hauntings 1543 01:22:28,042 --> 01:22:29,510 were all too real. 1544 01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:31,746 Please tell me you see that too. 1545 01:22:31,746 --> 01:22:34,081 That's so freakin' crazy! 1546 01:22:34,081 --> 01:22:35,816 If you're gonna try and put it all together, 1547 01:22:35,816 --> 01:22:37,518 take all these pieces and put 'em all together, 1548 01:22:37,518 --> 01:22:40,788 and try to make sense of it all together, 1549 01:22:40,788 --> 01:22:42,356 your head would explode. 1550 01:22:42,356 --> 01:22:43,524 How do you end it? 1551 01:22:43,524 --> 01:22:44,625 I don't know. 124856

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