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Oh my god, that's it, that's it.
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Okay, so I'm gonna turn the camera around.
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Ready?
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There you go.
There you go, kids.
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Once, it was just a quaint
home in a quiet town.
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This house would be one of
the most desirable places to live
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in all of Amityville.
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But then, everything changed.
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Six people were just
slaughtered in their sleep.
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Mother and father and four children.
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It was very, very frightening.
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And that was just the beginning.
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And he said, "The devil made me do it."
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You've got the flies around the window.
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You have the slime oozing from the walls.
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Black substances that are coming
up in the sinks and the toilets.
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It's like a page from a Stephen King novel.
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Nearly five decades later,
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America's greatest ghost
story is back in the headlines.
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Breaking news in the true
crime and horror community.
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The Amityville Horror killer
died in prison at the age of 69.
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Fueling a new generation to decipher
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what really happened at 112 Ocean Avenue.
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You have the true crime.
You have the paranormal.
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You have the mystery.
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What is it that caused
this? How did we get here?
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This is "Famously Haunted: Amityville."
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I'm Beckie-Anne Galentine.
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I'm a mortician during the
day and a ghost hunter at night.
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On social media, I am known as the girl
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that goes to the spooky locations.
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Paranormal, haunted
locations, haunted overnights,
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and just testing the limits
of how far I can go with it.
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I actually have the top
post on TikTok for Amityville.
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You know that saying, if your
friends jumped off a bridge,
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would you do it?
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Well, my TikTok followers told me
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to go the Amityville Horror house
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where six people were
murdered in 1974, and I did.
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But the town of Amityville
doesn't make finding
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the iconic house easy.
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So, when I looked it up on Google Maps,
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it is blurred out.
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Not only is that house blurred out,
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but several neighboring houses are.
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They really don't want you to
figure out what's going on here.
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When you arrive outside the house now,
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the trademark windows have been removed.
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They've done all they can
to try to make it blend in
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and not look like the Amityville house.
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"Meeting" the house for the first time
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is like meeting a celebrity.
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You feel like you've seen it.
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It's a familiar face.
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You feel, like, this pit in your
stomach, like this is the house.
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This is the cover from the movie.
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This is the cover from the book.
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This is the house that I saw
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in a newspaper clipping from the '70s.
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But this house holds terrible secrets.
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You have the true crime.
You have the paranormal.
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You have the mystery
surrounding why it happened,
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because nobody still knows.
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There's so many questions
still surrounding this case.
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That's the fascinating
part about all of this.
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The mystery just lives on. What happened?
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One thing that's certain
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is where the story begins.
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The year is 1974, and the
town is Amityville, New York.
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So this house with the flags
is the house that I grew up in.
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Back then, Geralyn Bozza
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lives just a few doors down
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from the infamous Amityville Horror house.
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At that time, it's only known as
the home of the DeFeo family.
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We were friendly with the
DeFeo family because there was
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a connection between my parents,
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being that we were all from Brooklyn.
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You had the father, Big Ronnie.
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The mother, Louise.
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Then you had Dawn DeFeo, Allison DeFeo,
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Marc DeFeo, and John Matthew.
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Then you had the oldest child, Ronnie Jr.
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His friends called him Butch.
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The large Italian family
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moves to the picturesque town
from Brooklyn nine years earlier
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and hangs the sign "High
Hopes" to symbolize their new start.
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The DeFeos, compared
to the people in Amityville,
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especially the more upscale neighbors,
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were a little rough around the edges.
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Some might call them uncouth, because--
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and I'm half Italian myself--
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Italians are loud, boisterous.
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Big Ronnie, as they called him,
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was sort of like Archie Bunker on steroids.
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He would yell at his wife.
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There was one story that
she was coming upstairs
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with the laundry basket and
he knocked her down the stairs.
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Some believe it was Big
Ronnie's resentment of
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the Amityville house that
triggered his blind rage.
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The house was purchased by
Louise Brigante DeFeo's father,
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Michael Brigante Sr.
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Her father just absolutely adored her.
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Big Ronnie, who was
working for his father-in-law,
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and was dependent upon his
father-in-law for the mortgage,
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I think there was
probably that in-law friction.
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On the surface,
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they looked like a successful family.
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But as you peel back the layers,
you find that the systemic abuse
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from the father was so severe.
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But Big Ronnie's most volatile relationship
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is with his eldest son.
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Ronnie DeFeo, also known as Butch,
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was a troubled young man.
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At the age of 17, he was into heroin, LSD.
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He drank. He was expelled from school.
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His parents sent him to a psychiatrist.
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It still didn't help.
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He was troubled. He was volatile.
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As far as Ronnie Sr.
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and Butch, his son, went,
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they had a very contentious relationship.
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And that bothered the
younger DeFeo siblings.
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Certainly the DeFeos
were a dysfunctional family.
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The situation between Big
Ronnie and Little Ronnie's
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just worsening and worsening over time.
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Sometimes this would end
up as real fisticuffs, bloodletting.
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One time, Ronnie Sr.
thought Butch was talking back.
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So he grabbed his son
and continued to beat on him
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until he was bloody.
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Of course, everyone's
yelling at the father to stop.
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So, there's a lot of psychological things
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going on with that family.
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A lot of negative, uh,
things happening with them,
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which invokes negativity.
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You just can't see it, but it's there.
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Then, on November 13, 1974,
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the evil within the DeFeo family
home spills into the public eye.
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The policeman was
coming out the front door.
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And I said, "Excuse me,
is there something wrong?
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My mother sent me down."
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He said, "You need to go
get your mother right now."
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I--
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"They're all dead."
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So I ran down the street.
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It was terrible.
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It was terrible.
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It's crazy, but we are here.
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It's behind me. It's crazy.
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Like, isn't it insane?
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It's 6:30 PM in Amityville, New York
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on the night of November 13, 1974.
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And what happens in this house
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is about to change the town forever.
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Ronnie DeFeo Jr. went down to Henry's Bar
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and burst into the bar
and says, help, help!
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You know, somebody's-something's wrong.
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Somebody's killed my family.
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It didn't take long for
an officer to respond.
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There was actually an
officer right down the street.
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And as soon as he arrived,
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the neighbors were all
looking out their windows,
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wondering what's going on.
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Inside this beautiful waterfront home,
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police comb through a horrific crime scene.
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Ronald DeFeo Sr.
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His wife, Louise.
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Teenage daughters Dawn and Allison.
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And sons Marc and John Mathew.
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All shot and killed in their beds.
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Allison and Dawn's shootings
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were particularly gory and gruesome.
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Not only were they young women,
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they were shot in the head
so the wounds were big.
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And that went through to the walls.
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Investigators do believe that John Matthew,
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who was the youngest at
nine, did live a little bit longer
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after the gunshot.
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They believed he was
paralyzed, but he was--of course,
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pronounced dead at the
scene, the whole family was.
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Six people died.
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And this was something--this
was a crime that was unheard of.
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Only 23-year-old Ronnie
"Butch" DeFeo survives.
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Ronnie Defeo Jr. claimed that
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he hadn't been home when this all went on.
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He came home at about 6:30 on November 13.
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Found his family all
murdered in their beds.
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Someone went through there
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and systematically killed
each and every one of them
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in a most brutal fashion.
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I can't imagine what it must've been like
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to be one of those neighbors
in this small community
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and then to watch as
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law enforcement is just
converging on this house.
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Uh, the media starts showing
up. Flashbulbs going off.
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Everybody angling to see what's going on.
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And then suddenly a
silence falls over the crowd
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as the body bags start
being pulled from the house.
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And you can see in the archived photos
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that some of those body
bags were very small
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because they contained very small children.
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Remember, Amityville was the type of place
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where you didn't lock your doors.
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So, you went from a
very passive place to live
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to a how could that happen.
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I mean, it was just so huge.
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I mean...a child--children. Why?
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Being that we were friendly
with the DeFeo family,
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I can remember being afraid
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that whoever killed them
was coming for us next.
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I can remember sleeping
with my sister, I think,
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for over a year.
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Who would wanna kill
this family of six people,
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a mother and father, and four children?
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It was sensational news.
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It really tweaked the
imagination and the horror
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and--and the sadness of
everyone who lived in the area.
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But as police investigate
the grisly crime scene,
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the search for answers
only leads to more questions.
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There were no shell casings left behind.
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And it seemed that nobody was
awake or heard, which is, again,
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a big part of the mystery.
Why didn't anybody wake up?
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Why did the neighbors
not hear any of this stuff?
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One teenager in the neighborhood,
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he was awakened by the sound
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of the DeFeos' old
English sheepdog, Shaggy,
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barking at about 3:00, 3:15 in the morning.
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But why had nobody heard any shots?
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To not hear a gun go
off six times of that caliber
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when you were that close to this house
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is--is not believable at all.
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I do not understand how that happened.
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You could stand in
their--their front doorway
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and throw a rock at their neighbor's house
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and hit it through their window.
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Meanwhile, the crowd of onlookers grows
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outside the stately colonial.
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I think they were just very
sweet, very religious people,
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very family minded people.
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Have you ruled out robbery as a motive?
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We have ruled out no motive
because we have no idea what
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the motive is at this time.
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Amityville is a small, quiet community.
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And any type of disruption
like this is going to get
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a lookie-loo standing outside the house.
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One of the basic ironies
about the DeFeos moving
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from an apartment in
Brooklyn to upscale Amityville
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is it was supposed to
symbolize upward mobility,
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better times for the family.
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They have the sign out there.
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Named their home "High Hopes."
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And that all came crashing down.
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The rumors are gonna
start flying pretty quickly.
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And one of the rumors
that really took hold was this
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could have been a mob hit of some kind.
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The DeFeo family had
connections to organized crime
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on both sides, maternal and paternal.
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So, the Colombo and Genovese
families were connected, uh,
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to the DeFeos.
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Louise DeFeo was part
of the Brigante family,
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that they were associated
with the mafia in New York City.
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Ronnie DeFeo Sr.,
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he was working for his father-in-law,
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Michael Brigante Sr.,
at the Buick dealership.
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The car dealership was a front for the mob.
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Things happened there
such as low-level crime,
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like chopping cars, all the
way up to money laundering.
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Big Ronnie Sr. was responsible
for keeping tabs of the ledgers
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for the family business, if you will.
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The true ledgers.
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There were rumors that Big Ronnie,
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that he was somehow skimming off the top
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at the Buick dealership.
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You look in the '70s, all
the New York newspapers
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were filled with mob killings.
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The type of things that were
ripped out of "The Godfather."
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You know, was it a mob hit? I don't know.
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But not everyone's convinced
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the mob is responsible.
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There had been an unwritten law within
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the families of not attacking children.
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So that made it a little bizarre
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the thought that it might
have been a mob hit.
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For Amityville, it's not a
place where a lot of crime
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was happening in those days.
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They probably had, you know,
two police officers and a stop sign.
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They had to call in outside
police from Suffolk County
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in order to help assist in
this investigation because
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if you've never even processed
one murder, let alone six,
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how are you gonna be
able to handle something
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of this magnitude on your own?
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Ronald is being safeguarded
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by the Suffolk County Police at this time.
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Why safeguarded? Why?
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Because there's six
members of the family dead
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and we don't know why.
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And he's the sole remaining member.
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When you consider that an
entire family was taken out,
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it only becomes logical to think
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that the surviving
member might be a target.
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So, Ronnie was taken into
protective custody just in case
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it was a mob hit and that
he might still be in danger.
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When police question
23-year-old Butch DeFeo,
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he echoes the mob theory.
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As police question him,
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he suggested that his
parents and his four siblings
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were victims of a mob hitman.
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He tried to claim that the
infamous mobster Lou Fellini
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did it, but he had an airtight alibi.
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He wasn't even in the state at the time.
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So, cross that one off the list.
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Investigators are beginning to believe
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the real suspect is staring
them right in the face.
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Everyone pointing,
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could it have been the only surviving son?
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But what was the motive?
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Why did he want to do this?
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What the detectives
seemed to come to terms with
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as for a motive was money.
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They soon discover Big
Ronnie had a $200,000
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life insurance policy.
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Besides this, there were
talks about parents having
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100,000 or $200,000 in cash in the house.
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The kind of money Butch could use
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to make a new life for himself
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far away from the reputation
he'd built in Amityville.
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Ronnie, he was a difficult kid growing up.
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I think he got into a lot of bad things,
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a lot of bad circles.
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To kind of deal with him
being kicked out of school,
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they offer him a job at
the dealership in the family.
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And he started working as a mechanic there.
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He had a job as a gofer.
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He was an errand boy for his grandfather.
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So he made some money,
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plus his father would
give him an allowance,
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sometimes several hundred dollars a week.
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He had a stereo system.
He had guns in the house.
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He had a car. He had a boat.
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He had a lot of spending money.
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And yet that wasn't enough for Butch.
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Armed with this information,
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investigators sit down with DeFeo again.
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This time, the surviving son
completely changes his story.
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Under intense questioning,
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Ron finally confessed to the killings.
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And he said, quote, "Once
it started, I couldn't stop.
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It was that fast."
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Ronnie was trying to say,
oh, his memory was foggy.
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He didn't remember anything.
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But he told them, well,
I dumped the rifle here.
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I dumped my bloody
clothes down the sewer drain.
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That all turned out to be true,
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because they found it
exactly where he said he put it.
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Now the investigation
turns its focus solely on him.
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Ronnie is arrested for the murders.
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You couldn't think that
Butch would've done that.
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I guess it was an explosion
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of whatever was going on in his mind.
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I don't know what happened.
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He had acknowledged
that he had taken drugs,
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had alcohol that night.
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And the more investigators learn about
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the DeFeo family dynamics,
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the more they believe Ronnie
was searching for his escape.
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He wanted to be an alpha male.
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He would fight with
his brothers and sisters.
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He had to share a
bathroom with the brothers.
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And he was saying his
two brothers were little pigs
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because they didn't
clean up after themselves.
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He didn't like his
sisters' choice in music.
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So there was tension building in the house.
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Many believe it's this
tension that led Butch
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to finally snap.
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The night of the murders,
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it was 3:15 in the morning.
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And Butch was sitting in the basement.
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And he had gone upstairs.
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He used two shots to
kill each of his parents.
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And then he killed all of his siblings.
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One year later,
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Ronnie DeFeo's six-count murder trial
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begins on October 14, 1975.
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At first, he admits to the killings.
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The closest Ronnie ever, uh,
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explained as to why he
did it, is because at that time,
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he felt that they were
conspiring against him.
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But then, an even more
terrifying story emerges.
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It came out that Ronnie heard voices
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telling him to kill.
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There was a--a shadowy figure
following him through the house.
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He said it was the devil in the house
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that was at the root of the murders.
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Ronnie Jr. was fueled by drugs.
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And a lot of people who are
involved in the paranormal
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will tell you that in itself
can be a deadly combination.
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Once you start taking drugs, alcohol,
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and you've got a sort of
demented personality that can
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then go full blown into
opening the doors for...
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demonic possession.
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Ronnie was taken over by the spirit
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that had him do these horrible things.
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Something, someone is
taking over him and his body.
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A part of me wants to believe that there is
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some sort of entity telling
somebody to do these things,
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whether you call that
evil or whatever you call it,
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because we don't wanna
believe that somebody's capable of
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doing this to their whole family.
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Soon, Butch's lawyer
embraces his client's claims.
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00:22:53,338 --> 00:22:57,342
William Weber comes up
with what was very unusual
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and certainly very rare at the time:
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the devil made me do it defense.
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In other words, William
Weber claims his client
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is legally insane.
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Whenever I have a client
who tells me something
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that doesn't register as normal or sane,
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um, one of the things
I have to ask myself is,
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is this person competent
to aid in their own defense?
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So the first thing you would wanna do--
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or I would do, anyway--
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is I would have my client evaluated by
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a good expert.
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Weber consults a
psychiatrist to examine DeFeo.
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He testifies Butch does in
fact believe he heard voices
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telling him to shoot his family.
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On the defense side,
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you're trying to convince the
jury that the person is insane
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at the time of the crimes
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and did not have control of themselves.
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Weber, in direct examination of his client,
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shows a picture of his deceased mother
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lying there on the bed
surrounded by blood and says,
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hey, is this--is this your mom?
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And DeFeo says, I've never
seen that person in my life.
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Weber repeats this with
a picture of his father.
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He denies knowing who that was.
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From the prosecution's side, you
show that whatever mental defect
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the person is suffering from,
it's not significant enough
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00:24:22,393 --> 00:24:24,362
to excuse the behavior.
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00:24:24,362 --> 00:24:27,231
He clearly thought out
what he was doing shortly
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after committing these murders.
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He collected the shell casings, the rifle.
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And then he disposed of
them in the sewer system.
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The trial lasts over a month.
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But after just two days of deliberations,
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the jury rejects DeFeo's devil defense.
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00:24:47,084 --> 00:24:49,854
The evidence all pointed to
the fact that Ronnie DeFeo
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killed his family.
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00:24:51,222 --> 00:24:53,658
The guy who is not only guilty of this,
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00:24:53,658 --> 00:24:56,394
but is trying to weasel his
way out of being convicted for it.
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And it's no surprise
that they found him guilty.
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DeFeo is given six consecutive sentences
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of 25 years to life.
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00:25:08,940 --> 00:25:11,375
Two weeks after Butch's conviction,
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he begins his sentence in New York State's
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Sullivan Correctional Facility.
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People thought that once
Ronnie DeFeo was convicted
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of those murders, the story would end.
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They had no idea that that
was only the actual beginning
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of the Amityville case.
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00:25:28,292 --> 00:25:30,928
The sheer evil that would
have to be present for
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a family member to kill
six other family members,
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it's unthinkable.
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That could only be precipitated by evil.
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It has been debated many
times on whether or not
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this Amityville home is actually haunted.
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Many people believe
that the spirits in this house
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possessed him to do it.
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00:25:49,413 --> 00:25:51,282
The strange thing is, all
members of the family that
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had been shot were found
lying face down in their beds.
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I believe there still remain
unanswered questions
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about the murders and what
really happened in that house
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the night he killed his entire family.
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Was there a shadowy
force telling him to kill?
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People are going to
side one way or the other
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whether or not this is one
of the most intense cases of
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demonic possession or if this
is simply a person disturbed.
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I think what initially happened
in the house with the DeFeos
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sparked some sort of...
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presence that lingered in the house.
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A presence that will
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drive the next family to move in crazy.
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Y'all have probably
heard of "Amityville Horror."
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Did you know that it's a real case,
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00:26:53,411 --> 00:26:55,313
and this house right here is said to be one
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of the most evil locations on earth?
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Just weeks after Ronnie "Butch" DeFeo
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is given six life sentences
for murdering his entire family
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inside their Amityville home,
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a new family takes interest in the house.
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I described the house
as "charming" the first time
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I saw it, 'cuz it's what I thought of it.
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00:27:17,602 --> 00:27:19,437
30-year-old Kathy Lutz
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and her 29-year-old husband, George,
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have no idea of the brutal
murders that happened here
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00:27:25,409 --> 00:27:29,580
when they arrive 112 Ocean Avenue...
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nor DeFeo's defense that
demons made him do it.
497
00:27:35,286 --> 00:27:37,722
saying, "Kathy, do
you believe this?"
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And she said, "No, I don't believe this."
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They're just looking for a fresh start
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for their blended family:
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five-year-old Missy, seven-year-old Chris,
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and 10-year-old Daniel.
503
00:27:51,569 --> 00:27:52,903
They were looking for a place
504
00:27:52,903 --> 00:27:54,672
that was bigger for their family now,
505
00:27:54,672 --> 00:27:56,774
but also George could
run his business from.
506
00:27:56,774 --> 00:27:59,377
And this house was perfect for that.
507
00:27:59,377 --> 00:28:01,879
Not only did it have all
the space that they needed,
508
00:28:01,879 --> 00:28:04,248
but it had a boathouse for George's boat.
509
00:28:04,248 --> 00:28:06,384
It had storage space for his motorcycles.
510
00:28:08,819 --> 00:28:11,055
When they come into
this home, they're, like,
511
00:28:11,055 --> 00:28:12,456
blown away by its beauty.
512
00:28:12,456 --> 00:28:14,125
And they know there has to be a catch.
513
00:28:14,125 --> 00:28:16,727
This is when the person
showing the house says, you know,
514
00:28:16,727 --> 00:28:20,197
this is the one where
the murders had occurred.
515
00:28:20,197 --> 00:28:23,668
And it wasn't a deal-breaker for them.
516
00:28:23,668 --> 00:28:25,703
They decided that
getting a property like this
517
00:28:25,703 --> 00:28:28,906
for the bargain price
at the time of $80,000
518
00:28:28,906 --> 00:28:31,776
was just something they couldn't pass up.
519
00:28:31,776 --> 00:28:35,680
The Lutzes even pay an
extra $400 for the remainder
520
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,549
of the DeFeos' abandoned furniture.
521
00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:39,950
A lot of people don't realize this,
522
00:28:39,950 --> 00:28:42,286
when the police finished
with the crime scene
523
00:28:42,286 --> 00:28:48,025
after the murders, there was
still a lot of physical residue.
524
00:28:48,025 --> 00:28:52,163
Spots of blood on
the-the walls, brain matter,
525
00:28:52,163 --> 00:28:53,964
holes in the wall with the bullets.
526
00:28:53,964 --> 00:28:56,801
In fact, the ammunition that Butch had,
527
00:28:56,801 --> 00:29:00,871
there were boxes of it up in his
closet that the Lutz boys found
528
00:29:00,871 --> 00:29:02,039
and were playing with.
529
00:29:03,607 --> 00:29:06,644
But some believe the DeFeos'
discarded things present
530
00:29:06,644 --> 00:29:10,181
unforeseen evils for their new owners.
531
00:29:10,181 --> 00:29:11,782
If an inanimate object
532
00:29:11,782 --> 00:29:15,720
happened to be in close
proximity to a traumatic event
533
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,424
that was the catalyst for the evil
534
00:29:20,424 --> 00:29:23,928
in the case of a murder
like what happened there,
535
00:29:23,928 --> 00:29:28,232
then it stands to reason that
any object that was in the house
536
00:29:28,232 --> 00:29:30,534
at the time that the murders
took place could have absorbed
537
00:29:30,534 --> 00:29:33,671
that same energy.
538
00:29:33,671 --> 00:29:35,039
I know personally,
539
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:36,440
I wouldn't have bought
any of that furniture,
540
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,842
especially the beds.
541
00:29:40,478 --> 00:29:42,113
When something happens like that,
542
00:29:42,113 --> 00:29:46,383
I don't see any reason why
someone would wanna, you know,
543
00:29:46,383 --> 00:29:48,152
continue to linger and use those beds,
544
00:29:48,152 --> 00:29:50,488
especially for their children.
545
00:29:50,488 --> 00:29:52,523
They didn't get rid of anything.
546
00:29:52,523 --> 00:29:54,759
And that's not to put blame on them at all.
547
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:56,694
I mean, yes, I have moved into places
548
00:29:56,694 --> 00:29:58,195
and bought the furniture in there,
549
00:29:58,195 --> 00:30:01,565
but not where somebody
was killed brutally in their sleep.
550
00:30:06,303 --> 00:30:07,438
Given the home's bloody
551
00:30:07,438 --> 00:30:10,174
and potentially demonic past,
552
00:30:10,174 --> 00:30:13,844
Kathy Lutz decides to
have a priest bless the house
553
00:30:13,844 --> 00:30:16,781
just in case.
554
00:30:16,781 --> 00:30:18,349
A blessing would have been
555
00:30:18,349 --> 00:30:20,317
a appropriate course of action.
556
00:30:20,317 --> 00:30:22,787
Even somebody that is non-practicing,
557
00:30:22,787 --> 00:30:24,422
if they grew up with the Catholic faith,
558
00:30:24,422 --> 00:30:27,491
there's always going to be some
of those old habits within them.
559
00:30:30,761 --> 00:30:33,497
But this is no routine blessing.
560
00:30:36,333 --> 00:30:39,770
Four years later, in 1979,
561
00:30:39,770 --> 00:30:44,175
the priest finally reveals what
happened in the house that day.
562
00:30:44,175 --> 00:30:46,911
Only if he can remain anonymous.
563
00:30:47,912 --> 00:30:53,417
I was blessing, um, the sewing room.
564
00:30:53,417 --> 00:30:55,686
It was cold. It was really cold in there.
565
00:30:55,686 --> 00:30:59,023
And I thought, "Gee, this is peculiar."
566
00:30:59,023 --> 00:31:02,459
Because it was a lovely day out and...
567
00:31:02,459 --> 00:31:05,396
I--I was also sprinkling holy water.
568
00:31:05,396 --> 00:31:10,201
And I heard a rather deep voice,
uh, behind me saying, "Get out."
569
00:31:13,904 --> 00:31:17,141
The startled priest
abruptly finishes his blessing
570
00:31:17,141 --> 00:31:19,310
and tells the Lutzes.
571
00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:22,179
"As long as nobody's
sleeping in there, you're fine."
572
00:31:22,179 --> 00:31:24,615
And then he rushed out the door,
573
00:31:24,615 --> 00:31:26,217
which should've been a clue for them.
574
00:31:28,252 --> 00:31:31,322
Days later, the priest discovers mysterious
575
00:31:31,322 --> 00:31:34,992
blisters on his hands, like a stigmata.
576
00:31:38,028 --> 00:31:41,866
It's very common for
victims of a malevolent attack,
577
00:31:41,866 --> 00:31:43,868
spiritual attack, or paranormal attack
578
00:31:43,868 --> 00:31:47,304
by some kind of potential demonic entity
579
00:31:47,304 --> 00:31:53,110
to experience a mocking
of Jesus' life, his reality.
580
00:31:59,650 --> 00:32:01,685
Soon, the Lutzes begin encountering
581
00:32:01,685 --> 00:32:05,055
strange events as well.
582
00:32:05,055 --> 00:32:08,592
Suddenly George was,
uh, furiously cold all the time.
583
00:32:09,894 --> 00:32:11,562
No matter what, he couldn't get warm.
584
00:32:11,562 --> 00:32:12,897
And he was constantly building fires
585
00:32:12,897 --> 00:32:14,365
even when the rest of the family
586
00:32:14,365 --> 00:32:18,535
was shedding off layers
because he had them sweating.
587
00:32:18,535 --> 00:32:23,340
But he had this bone chill that
he just couldn't seem to shake.
588
00:32:23,340 --> 00:32:25,009
What's fascinating about
George's cold chills is
589
00:32:25,009 --> 00:32:27,211
he was the only one experiencing them.
590
00:32:27,211 --> 00:32:28,779
From somebody who's
experienced cold chills,
591
00:32:28,779 --> 00:32:31,448
it's hard to describe.
But it's a situation where
592
00:32:31,448 --> 00:32:34,051
you feel like somebody brushed past you.
593
00:32:34,051 --> 00:32:36,921
I mean, I'm getting
chills just thinking about it.
594
00:32:36,921 --> 00:32:38,989
When you're there and
in that moment, you're like,
595
00:32:38,989 --> 00:32:43,193
oh, this is--this is something.
There's something here.
596
00:32:45,062 --> 00:32:48,332
George's personality changes too.
597
00:32:48,332 --> 00:32:52,570
He suffers unexplained
bouts of anger, confusion,
598
00:32:52,570 --> 00:32:55,239
and loss of appetite.
599
00:32:55,239 --> 00:32:58,876
As the phenomena started to
progress and worsen over time,
600
00:32:58,876 --> 00:33:00,411
George really started to notice
601
00:33:00,411 --> 00:33:02,813
that it was affecting him directly,
602
00:33:02,813 --> 00:33:07,818
including waking up every
night at about 3:15 AM.
603
00:33:07,818 --> 00:33:09,420
Around the time some believe
604
00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:12,856
the DeFeo murders took place.
605
00:33:12,856 --> 00:33:16,727
It's also the time some
call the devil's hour.
606
00:33:17,795 --> 00:33:21,198
Jesus was said to have
died on the cross at 3:00 PM.
607
00:33:21,198 --> 00:33:24,301
And so the devil's hour being 3:00 AM
608
00:33:24,301 --> 00:33:27,871
is sort of a contrast to that.
609
00:33:32,076 --> 00:33:34,345
But it's not just odd behavior
610
00:33:34,345 --> 00:33:36,480
haunting the new residents.
611
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,949
When the Lutzes first moved
into the house, naturally,
612
00:33:38,949 --> 00:33:41,151
you know, it has tons of space
613
00:33:41,151 --> 00:33:44,488
and lots of different rooms
and areas to be explored.
614
00:33:44,488 --> 00:33:48,192
But there were also some areas
they weren't expecting to find.
615
00:33:48,192 --> 00:33:51,996
Kathy Lutz discovers
one such mysterious space
616
00:33:51,996 --> 00:33:54,598
while moving a bookcase in the basement.
617
00:33:54,598 --> 00:33:57,868
Much to my surprise,
there was no wall behind it.
618
00:33:57,868 --> 00:34:00,971
It was the entrance into this small,
619
00:34:00,971 --> 00:34:05,009
brightly painted red room.
620
00:34:05,009 --> 00:34:10,247
And I was really surprised
and alarmed by the find.
621
00:34:10,247 --> 00:34:12,449
Even the Lutzes' dog, Harry,
622
00:34:12,449 --> 00:34:17,588
won't go near the strange
void known as the Red Room.
623
00:34:17,588 --> 00:34:22,092
Animals can definitely sense
when there's something not right
624
00:34:22,092 --> 00:34:24,395
going on in the environment
of something malevolent,
625
00:34:24,395 --> 00:34:26,230
of something, you know, dark.
626
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:30,434
And Harry not wanting to go
anywhere near the Red Room
627
00:34:30,434 --> 00:34:32,002
is something that
628
00:34:32,002 --> 00:34:36,240
we would expect to find in a
legitimate case of demonic,
629
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:37,875
uh, involvement.
630
00:34:41,145 --> 00:34:44,848
But Kathy's bizarre
encounters don't end there.
631
00:34:44,848 --> 00:34:46,750
She soon begins sensing the murdered
632
00:34:46,750 --> 00:34:49,820
DeFeo family's presence.
633
00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:52,589
Kathy was experiencing dreams of Louise,
634
00:34:52,589 --> 00:34:55,125
Louise's body being exhumed,
635
00:34:55,125 --> 00:34:57,027
the bodies lying on the
floor in the same room
636
00:34:57,027 --> 00:34:59,063
where the family was placed
637
00:34:59,063 --> 00:35:03,767
before they were taken out
by the medical examiners.
638
00:35:03,767 --> 00:35:06,904
And I know that she had
continuously had dreams
639
00:35:06,904 --> 00:35:08,439
of her getting shot.
640
00:35:14,378 --> 00:35:19,016
Kathy also said that
her aunt, who was a nun,
641
00:35:19,016 --> 00:35:21,852
came into the house to visit one day.
642
00:35:21,852 --> 00:35:27,825
And she left when she became violently ill.
643
00:35:27,825 --> 00:35:31,195
So, a lot of things were piling up.
644
00:35:32,329 --> 00:35:35,632
Then, Kathy's five-year-old
daughter, Missy,
645
00:35:35,632 --> 00:35:39,269
begins experiencing her own phenomena.
646
00:35:39,269 --> 00:35:42,673
She claims to see the
face of a red-eyed pig
647
00:35:42,673 --> 00:35:47,411
in her bedroom window and names it Jody.
648
00:35:47,411 --> 00:35:49,546
If there was a demon
in the Amityville house,
649
00:35:49,546 --> 00:35:52,449
it's very likely that that
was what was manifesting
650
00:35:52,449 --> 00:35:56,720
as Jody the red-eyed pig, and
was appearing before Missy.
651
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,256
It would be trying to
gain her trust because
652
00:35:59,256 --> 00:36:03,427
the more it has attention,
the more power it will gain.
653
00:36:03,427 --> 00:36:07,231
Children do see demonic entities first,
654
00:36:07,231 --> 00:36:11,068
before the adults are directly affected.
655
00:36:11,068 --> 00:36:13,904
Children tend to be more
sensitive and more willing
656
00:36:13,904 --> 00:36:16,740
to experience it.
657
00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:20,310
It would not be outside of the
realm of possibility that some
658
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:24,281
malevolent force would seek
out a child first because the child
659
00:36:24,281 --> 00:36:28,318
would be more likely to
see and interact with them.
660
00:36:28,318 --> 00:36:31,889
I think if I had seen a
pig face in the window,
661
00:36:31,889 --> 00:36:34,658
I would have run for the hills, absolutely.
662
00:36:34,658 --> 00:36:37,261
I'm out of there.
663
00:36:37,261 --> 00:36:39,129
But no one outside the home
664
00:36:39,129 --> 00:36:42,633
has any idea what's happening.
665
00:36:42,633 --> 00:36:45,969
I was in high school when
they were in the house.
666
00:36:45,969 --> 00:36:47,604
And I used to walk back and forth
667
00:36:47,604 --> 00:36:52,910
to the high school every day,
you know, five days a week.
668
00:36:52,910 --> 00:36:55,179
And I can't say I ever saw anything.
669
00:36:56,947 --> 00:36:58,749
As the phenomena worsens, you know,
670
00:36:58,749 --> 00:37:00,584
the Lutz family's trying to tough it out,
671
00:37:00,584 --> 00:37:01,785
and who can blame them?
672
00:37:01,785 --> 00:37:03,453
You finally got your dream house.
673
00:37:03,453 --> 00:37:05,222
What's a few ghosts?
674
00:37:05,222 --> 00:37:07,357
But when the Lutzes try to take matters
675
00:37:07,357 --> 00:37:11,962
into their own hands, it
awakens an even darker force.
676
00:37:14,965 --> 00:37:16,366
Hey, everyone.
677
00:37:16,366 --> 00:37:18,435
Um, so I'm an Instacart
shopper on Long Island.
678
00:37:18,435 --> 00:37:23,974
And I am often in the town of Amityville,
679
00:37:23,974 --> 00:37:28,111
which is where the DeFeo
family murders happened.
680
00:37:28,111 --> 00:37:30,247
I view this house as, like,
681
00:37:30,247 --> 00:37:32,783
one would view the Empire State Building.
682
00:37:32,783 --> 00:37:35,852
Um, I just think it's a national landmark.
683
00:37:35,852 --> 00:37:38,789
There it is, y'all. This is Ocean Avenue.
684
00:37:38,789 --> 00:37:42,426
Right there, Amityville Horror house.
685
00:37:42,426 --> 00:37:43,560
It's beautiful.
686
00:37:51,702 --> 00:37:52,869
Within a week after
687
00:37:52,869 --> 00:37:55,372
moving into their Amityville dream home,
688
00:37:55,372 --> 00:37:57,874
the Lutz family begins facing a series of
689
00:37:57,874 --> 00:38:01,979
terrifying and unexplained phenomena.
690
00:38:01,979 --> 00:38:05,515
The spectral pig with the glowing eyes,
691
00:38:05,515 --> 00:38:08,952
disembodied voices, cold spots in the home,
692
00:38:08,952 --> 00:38:12,489
I've never heard of anything like this.
693
00:38:12,489 --> 00:38:14,992
Soon, the Lutzes begin
to wonder if the house
694
00:38:14,992 --> 00:38:19,162
is haunted by the DeFeo murders after all.
695
00:38:19,162 --> 00:38:22,766
For somebody to be
sleeping on the same beds
696
00:38:22,766 --> 00:38:24,301
and be in that same house
697
00:38:24,301 --> 00:38:27,704
and really not cleanse
that space, if you will,
698
00:38:27,704 --> 00:38:31,608
I think that definitely has
something to do with it.
699
00:38:31,608 --> 00:38:34,444
Desperate for help, George and Kathy call
700
00:38:34,444 --> 00:38:38,115
the local priest back
for a second blessing,
701
00:38:38,115 --> 00:38:40,851
starting with the mysterious red room
702
00:38:40,851 --> 00:38:42,719
they recently discovered underneath
703
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,621
their basement stairs.
704
00:38:44,621 --> 00:38:47,524
He said no way was he
coming back into their house.
705
00:38:47,524 --> 00:38:49,826
And that's when he revealed
to them for the first time that
706
00:38:49,826 --> 00:38:51,695
when he had been there previously,
707
00:38:51,695 --> 00:38:53,730
something unseen had smacked him,
708
00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:55,666
and a voice told him to get out.
709
00:38:57,901 --> 00:38:59,403
If we can see it with our own eyes,
710
00:38:59,403 --> 00:39:02,572
it lends credibility to the
fact that it would have been
711
00:39:02,572 --> 00:39:05,008
essential for them to
get the help of the church
712
00:39:05,008 --> 00:39:07,010
to be able to rectify it.
713
00:39:08,545 --> 00:39:10,614
With no spiritual help on the way,
714
00:39:10,614 --> 00:39:13,317
the Lutzes take matters
into their own hands
715
00:39:13,317 --> 00:39:15,919
and bless the house themselves.
716
00:39:15,919 --> 00:39:20,023
But their actions only further
enrage the demons haunting it.
717
00:39:25,462 --> 00:39:27,197
When you're experiencing
718
00:39:27,197 --> 00:39:30,400
a paranormal encounter, your eyes focus,
719
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,537
and you see something
that you can't explain,
720
00:39:33,537 --> 00:39:38,608
and then you need to
assess, is this a danger to me?
721
00:39:38,608 --> 00:39:41,445
I think that you can stir up energy
722
00:39:41,445 --> 00:39:42,813
if you don't know what you're doing,
723
00:39:42,813 --> 00:39:44,348
or maybe that was the intention.
724
00:39:44,348 --> 00:39:47,985
You know, to try to create
something or have this energy
725
00:39:47,985 --> 00:39:50,487
kind of come out of the woodwork.
726
00:39:50,487 --> 00:39:53,056
Some believe the
paranormal activity haunting
727
00:39:53,056 --> 00:39:58,295
the Lutzes may be their own doing.
728
00:39:58,295 --> 00:40:01,398
George and Kathy practiced
Transcendental Meditation,
729
00:40:01,398 --> 00:40:05,168
which in the 1970s sometimes
was a code word for they were
730
00:40:05,168 --> 00:40:07,237
interested in the occult.
731
00:40:07,237 --> 00:40:08,438
Of that time of the '70s,
732
00:40:08,438 --> 00:40:10,073
it was kind of the thing to do.
733
00:40:10,073 --> 00:40:12,142
I know, I grew up in it. I.
734
00:40:12,142 --> 00:40:14,978
A lot of incense-burning
and a lot of chanting.
735
00:40:14,978 --> 00:40:17,347
But, if they were into parts of the occult
736
00:40:17,347 --> 00:40:20,484
that are incantations of bad things,
737
00:40:20,484 --> 00:40:23,387
it's definitely inviting somebody in that
738
00:40:23,387 --> 00:40:26,790
you don't know who they are
and where they come from, uh,
739
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:28,291
to create a negative energy.
740
00:40:28,291 --> 00:40:32,396
And then things can
happen that are really bad.
741
00:40:32,396 --> 00:40:33,797
You know, any kind of dabbling
742
00:40:33,797 --> 00:40:35,432
with any kind of occult forces
743
00:40:35,432 --> 00:40:38,835
is usually the recipe for
disaster because very few people
744
00:40:38,835 --> 00:40:42,572
are properly trained in
how to handle these things.
745
00:40:42,572 --> 00:40:44,608
After their blessing attempt,
746
00:40:44,608 --> 00:40:49,479
the dark energy within 112
Ocean Avenue only intensifies.
747
00:40:51,314 --> 00:40:54,985
Swarms of flies begin
congregating in the same room
748
00:40:54,985 --> 00:40:56,620
where the priest experienced
749
00:40:56,620 --> 00:41:02,325
the mysterious slap in
the face weeks earlier.
750
00:41:02,325 --> 00:41:03,460
That's usually the case
751
00:41:03,460 --> 00:41:06,196
when you have the center of the haunting.
752
00:41:06,196 --> 00:41:08,465
It's the place that nobody
wants to go and the place
753
00:41:08,465 --> 00:41:11,168
where spending too much time in
there will become overwhelming.
754
00:41:12,602 --> 00:41:14,738
If that were happening to me right now,
755
00:41:14,738 --> 00:41:17,174
I would have called somebody
in to come and help me.
756
00:41:17,174 --> 00:41:19,509
I would've tried to do anything.
757
00:41:19,509 --> 00:41:21,878
But they kind of kept quiet on it.
758
00:41:21,878 --> 00:41:24,481
But the flies are just the beginning of
759
00:41:24,481 --> 00:41:28,385
the strange phenomena barraging the Lutzes.
760
00:41:28,385 --> 00:41:31,188
The boys, who were
sharing the same room, said--
761
00:41:31,188 --> 00:41:33,990
and they absolutely
swear to this to this day--
762
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:39,196
that they saw sort of like
a--a black amorphous figure.
763
00:41:39,196 --> 00:41:43,667
They felt like something
like whooshed through them,
764
00:41:43,667 --> 00:41:46,203
like a spirit.
765
00:41:46,203 --> 00:41:48,872
Kathy herself starts
levitating over the bed.
766
00:41:48,872 --> 00:41:52,375
And George sees this
happening with his own eyes.
767
00:41:52,375 --> 00:41:55,111
Kathy looked at herself
in the mirror one morning
768
00:41:55,111 --> 00:41:57,114
as she was washing her face.
769
00:41:57,114 --> 00:42:02,119
And her face transformed
into that of an old hag.
770
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:05,055
My hair turned color.
There was no true color.
771
00:42:05,055 --> 00:42:08,458
It was a gray-white.
772
00:42:08,458 --> 00:42:10,527
My face was severely wrinkled.
773
00:42:10,527 --> 00:42:15,198
Ah, deep impressions coming
down across the forehead.
774
00:42:15,198 --> 00:42:18,201
My mouth was very tight, very drawn.
775
00:42:18,201 --> 00:42:21,304
You have a potential demonic presence.
776
00:42:21,304 --> 00:42:23,106
You've got the flies around the window.
777
00:42:23,106 --> 00:42:26,343
You have the slime oozing from the walls.
778
00:42:26,343 --> 00:42:28,278
You have the black substances
779
00:42:28,278 --> 00:42:31,181
that are coming up in
the sinks and in the toilets.
780
00:42:31,181 --> 00:42:35,051
This is absolutely terrifying.
781
00:42:35,051 --> 00:42:36,486
Whatever entities are there
782
00:42:36,486 --> 00:42:39,222
had quite an unusual strength.
783
00:42:39,222 --> 00:42:40,657
It would target the children.
784
00:42:40,657 --> 00:42:43,293
And it would start to
attack them in their rooms.
785
00:42:43,293 --> 00:42:45,529
George tries to get out of
bed to go and save them,
786
00:42:45,529 --> 00:42:48,031
and he's paralyzed. He can't get up.
787
00:42:48,031 --> 00:42:51,501
That's the amount of strength
that was behind these hauntings.
788
00:42:53,003 --> 00:42:56,006
These kinds of things
are things that we do see
789
00:42:56,006 --> 00:42:57,908
when we go and investigate a case
790
00:42:57,908 --> 00:43:00,277
and a person is
experiencing what they think
791
00:43:00,277 --> 00:43:03,413
is a demonic problem.
792
00:43:03,413 --> 00:43:09,586
The same evil spirits
that haunted Butch DeFeo.
793
00:43:09,586 --> 00:43:14,891
When the Lutzes stay, the dark
forces grow even more powerful.
794
00:43:14,891 --> 00:43:17,861
George and Kathy describe coming down in
795
00:43:17,861 --> 00:43:19,129
the middle of the night
796
00:43:19,129 --> 00:43:21,531
and finding the sound of a marching band
797
00:43:21,531 --> 00:43:22,866
going through their house.
798
00:43:28,572 --> 00:43:30,540
Kathy, she finally had had enough.
799
00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:32,943
And the time came for the Lutz
family to get out of that house.
800
00:43:34,611 --> 00:43:38,515
On January 14, 1976,
801
00:43:38,515 --> 00:43:44,154
George and Kathy gather their
kids and dog and race to escape.
802
00:43:44,154 --> 00:43:47,457
But whatever is in that
house starts targeting them.
803
00:43:47,457 --> 00:43:49,025
He's unable to pull out.
804
00:43:49,025 --> 00:43:51,661
It's like whatever is there is
keeping them on that land.
805
00:43:53,363 --> 00:43:56,466
A young family that has
invested everything they have
806
00:43:56,466 --> 00:44:00,804
into their dream home
suddenly, after just 28 days,
807
00:44:00,804 --> 00:44:02,005
bolts from the property.
808
00:44:04,407 --> 00:44:07,444
They were genuinely terrified.
809
00:44:09,112 --> 00:44:13,249
But the Lutzes will return
to their haunted home.
810
00:44:13,249 --> 00:44:15,552
This time, with reinforcements.
811
00:44:18,488 --> 00:44:19,723
Let's talk about the Amityville haunting.
812
00:44:19,723 --> 00:44:21,825
On November 13, 1974, Ronnie DeFeo murdered
813
00:44:21,825 --> 00:44:23,026
his two parents and four siblings.
814
00:44:23,026 --> 00:44:24,394
A little over a year later,
815
00:44:24,394 --> 00:44:26,096
Kathy and George Lutz moved into the home.
816
00:44:26,096 --> 00:44:28,198
They would only end up
staying in the home for 28 days.
817
00:44:28,198 --> 00:44:29,399
They claim they had to leave the home
818
00:44:29,399 --> 00:44:30,634
due to paranormal hauntings.
819
00:44:30,634 --> 00:44:32,669
They claim some crazy shit in this case.
820
00:44:32,669 --> 00:44:35,005
Furniture flying across
the room, Kathy levitating,
821
00:44:35,005 --> 00:44:37,540
green slime oozing from
the walls, infestation of flies.
822
00:44:39,242 --> 00:44:42,746
George and Kathy Lutz
fled in the darkness in panic.
823
00:44:42,746 --> 00:44:44,781
They said the house was being possessed.
824
00:44:44,781 --> 00:44:47,417
It was the occult. It was demonic.
825
00:44:47,417 --> 00:44:49,552
There was slime oozing from the walls.
826
00:44:49,552 --> 00:44:51,988
There were flies in the dead of winter.
827
00:44:51,988 --> 00:44:53,456
They heard voices.
828
00:44:58,061 --> 00:45:01,598
You couldn't have a--a more perfect storm
829
00:45:01,598 --> 00:45:05,869
or confluence of events if
you even drew a Venn diagram.
830
00:45:07,537 --> 00:45:11,041
You have unseen forces, supernatural,
831
00:45:11,041 --> 00:45:13,710
that have driven this
couple out of their house
832
00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:17,313
14 months after six people
were violently murdered.
833
00:45:17,313 --> 00:45:19,449
Of course that grabbed
everybody's attention.
834
00:45:25,588 --> 00:45:28,425
Soon, neighbors on Ocean Avenue realize
835
00:45:28,425 --> 00:45:32,395
the Lutz family car has
been missing for weeks.
836
00:45:32,395 --> 00:45:34,264
Rumors begin circulating the family
837
00:45:34,264 --> 00:45:36,566
had experienced strange behavior
838
00:45:36,566 --> 00:45:40,070
and fled because they were afraid.
839
00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:44,007
The story filtered into our newsroom.
840
00:45:44,007 --> 00:45:47,277
Laura DiDio, who was
an intern at that time,
841
00:45:47,277 --> 00:45:49,279
was ordered to go out to the house
842
00:45:49,279 --> 00:45:52,582
to interview the Lutz family.
843
00:45:52,582 --> 00:45:56,219
I spent five hours talking with them
844
00:45:56,219 --> 00:45:58,221
and getting them to open up.
845
00:45:58,221 --> 00:45:59,756
They were--they were scared.
846
00:46:01,624 --> 00:46:02,826
She came back.
847
00:46:02,826 --> 00:46:04,461
She said their story is incredible.
848
00:46:04,461 --> 00:46:06,496
And she talked them into allowing us
849
00:46:06,496 --> 00:46:08,998
to come in with a crew.
850
00:46:08,998 --> 00:46:11,868
I was hoping to get an
exclusive interview with a ghost.
851
00:46:11,868 --> 00:46:14,671
Oh, an intrepid reporter,
852
00:46:14,671 --> 00:46:16,439
always looking for another interview.
853
00:46:23,413 --> 00:46:25,648
The reporters contact two of America's
854
00:46:25,648 --> 00:46:29,119
most renowned paranormal
investigators for help,
855
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:32,255
Ed and Lorraine Warren.
856
00:46:32,255 --> 00:46:33,389
Ed and Lorraine Warren were
857
00:46:33,389 --> 00:46:36,593
a paranormal power couple from Connecticut.
858
00:46:36,593 --> 00:46:39,062
She had a gift that she could
see things that other people
859
00:46:39,062 --> 00:46:40,330
couldn't see and sense things
860
00:46:40,330 --> 00:46:42,298
that other people couldn't sense.
861
00:46:42,298 --> 00:46:44,367
He was a Catholic demonologist,
862
00:46:44,367 --> 00:46:47,237
so they kind of meshed well together.
863
00:46:47,237 --> 00:46:49,873
They really pushed the envelope.
864
00:46:49,873 --> 00:46:53,409
They went to all of the biggest houses,
865
00:46:53,409 --> 00:46:57,380
the scariest--things
that you don't wanna find
866
00:46:57,380 --> 00:47:01,351
under your bed at night, they were there.
867
00:47:01,351 --> 00:47:02,852
With the Lutzes' permission,
868
00:47:02,852 --> 00:47:06,389
the reporters and the Warrens
meet at 112 Ocean Avenue
869
00:47:06,389 --> 00:47:11,194
to determine if demonic forces
within really have haunted both
870
00:47:11,194 --> 00:47:14,964
the Lutz and DeFeo families.
871
00:47:14,964 --> 00:47:16,566
Lorraine said, "Before
we go into the house,
872
00:47:16,566 --> 00:47:20,537
"let's just take a minute
to decompress, pray,
873
00:47:20,537 --> 00:47:22,138
get yourself in the right frame of mind."
874
00:47:23,873 --> 00:47:27,944
We went into the house with the crew.
875
00:47:27,944 --> 00:47:32,081
And Lorraine didn't know
which rooms belonged to who.
876
00:47:34,450 --> 00:47:39,255
When she got to Ronnie
DeFeo Jr.'s room, Butch,
877
00:47:39,255 --> 00:47:45,128
she walked to the entryway,
stood in the doorway,
878
00:47:45,128 --> 00:47:47,664
took one step in, and
immediately backed out and said,
879
00:47:47,664 --> 00:47:52,635
"No, it's too oppressive
here. I can't go into this room."
880
00:47:52,635 --> 00:47:55,738
But Lorraine can't escape this feeling.
881
00:47:55,738 --> 00:47:57,874
Even as her psychic reading continues
882
00:47:57,874 --> 00:48:00,643
on the home's second floor.
883
00:48:00,643 --> 00:48:03,546
She walked in the master bedroom.
884
00:48:03,546 --> 00:48:07,951
And she said, "Blood,
blood, blood all over."
885
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,589
She sat down.
886
00:48:12,589 --> 00:48:15,825
She was having a very
physical reaction to this.
887
00:48:15,825 --> 00:48:18,761
She got a migraine headache.
888
00:48:18,761 --> 00:48:20,697
Any type of place that
has paranormal activity,
889
00:48:20,697 --> 00:48:21,965
even if you're not looking for it
890
00:48:21,965 --> 00:48:23,499
and you happen to stumble upon it,
891
00:48:23,499 --> 00:48:25,368
those different things
that I just described
892
00:48:25,368 --> 00:48:27,837
are actually really common.
893
00:48:27,837 --> 00:48:29,639
You know, especially if you're in a place
894
00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:31,774
where six murders happened.
895
00:48:33,977 --> 00:48:36,946
I don't doubt for one second
that they were encountering
896
00:48:36,946 --> 00:48:41,451
real paranormal entities
during these experiences.
897
00:48:41,451 --> 00:48:45,421
Overcome, Lorraine
abruptly ends their visit.
898
00:48:45,421 --> 00:48:48,958
But not before DiDio and her
crew have enough material for
899
00:48:48,958 --> 00:48:51,561
an earth-shattering newscast.
900
00:48:51,561 --> 00:48:53,496
Then it really blew up.
901
00:48:53,496 --> 00:48:56,766
I would get calls from 20-year-old kids.
902
00:48:56,766 --> 00:48:59,469
Hey, can we go in there
and spend the night?
903
00:48:59,469 --> 00:49:01,404
If the murders and Ronnie DeFeo's trial
904
00:49:01,404 --> 00:49:07,176
hadn't been taxing enough, now
you've ladled on ghostbusters.
905
00:49:09,245 --> 00:49:12,515
People started to invade the...
906
00:49:12,515 --> 00:49:15,952
the quaint little village that we have.
907
00:49:15,952 --> 00:49:18,421
All we kept getting for
the next couple of weeks is,
908
00:49:18,421 --> 00:49:21,257
when is the next installment?
When is the next installment?
909
00:49:21,257 --> 00:49:25,361
From there on in, this
took on a life of its own.
910
00:49:25,361 --> 00:49:26,763
The news director said,
911
00:49:26,763 --> 00:49:28,431
"Okay, we gotta go back
in and do more on this.
912
00:49:28,431 --> 00:49:30,466
Follow up the story."
913
00:49:30,466 --> 00:49:33,036
On March 6, 1976,
914
00:49:33,036 --> 00:49:36,439
the news crew returns to
the home with the Warrens.
915
00:49:36,439 --> 00:49:39,409
They're joined by George and Kathy Lutz,
916
00:49:39,409 --> 00:49:41,244
who haven't been back to the house
917
00:49:41,244 --> 00:49:45,982
since they fled in the middle
of the night two months earlier.
918
00:49:45,982 --> 00:49:50,620
Unbeknownst to us, the
Warrens had invited several of
919
00:49:50,620 --> 00:49:54,123
their psychic and paranormal friends.
920
00:49:54,123 --> 00:49:57,527
George Lutz had invited several other
921
00:49:57,527 --> 00:50:01,164
paranormal investigating
agencies to come in.
922
00:50:01,164 --> 00:50:04,233
So there were about 20 people there.
923
00:50:04,233 --> 00:50:05,768
But the Warrens aren't just looking
924
00:50:05,768 --> 00:50:08,404
to conduct psychic readings.
925
00:50:08,404 --> 00:50:12,041
This time, they're going
to try to conjure the spirits.
926
00:50:14,777 --> 00:50:16,045
We're back.
927
00:50:16,045 --> 00:50:17,413
And if you see it, there's the house.
928
00:50:17,413 --> 00:50:18,848
That's it, that's it.
929
00:50:18,848 --> 00:50:21,584
Now, notice how they've changed the, uh...
930
00:50:21,584 --> 00:50:22,719
The windows.
931
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,454
The eye--ooh. The eye windows.
932
00:50:24,454 --> 00:50:26,956
They're not-- They're
not eye windows anymore.
933
00:50:38,501 --> 00:50:41,304
Nearly a year and a half
after Ronnie "Butch" DeFeo
934
00:50:41,304 --> 00:50:46,075
murdered his entire family
inside their Amityville home
935
00:50:46,075 --> 00:50:49,946
and three months after the
new residents, the Lutzes,
936
00:50:49,946 --> 00:50:54,884
were chased away by a series of
terrifying paranormal phenomena,
937
00:50:54,884 --> 00:50:57,320
renowned paranormal investigators
938
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,055
Ed and Lorraine Warren
939
00:50:59,055 --> 00:51:01,858
have returned to the
Amityville home to try to
940
00:51:01,858 --> 00:51:06,229
conjure the spirits haunting it.
941
00:51:06,229 --> 00:51:08,631
They called the biggest
names that they could,
942
00:51:08,631 --> 00:51:11,000
the best experts, to help with the house.
943
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,203
And they truly were trying to
figure out what was going on.
944
00:51:14,203 --> 00:51:16,539
I arrived, and I walked into the house,
945
00:51:16,539 --> 00:51:22,045
and there were about 20 people
sitting around this table, uh,
946
00:51:22,045 --> 00:51:27,850
with a, uh, blessed candle,
crucifix, and, uh, two psychics.
947
00:51:29,152 --> 00:51:31,154
The best description of our
reaction during that séance
948
00:51:31,154 --> 00:51:34,757
was one word: we're mesmerized.
949
00:51:34,757 --> 00:51:36,759
I feel personally threatened.
950
00:51:38,795 --> 00:51:41,831
It's something, it's--it's whatever's here.
951
00:51:41,831 --> 00:51:46,135
Whatever is here.
952
00:51:46,135 --> 00:51:49,072
And it's something that comes at you
953
00:51:49,072 --> 00:51:51,874
and makes your heart
speed up, that kind of thing.
954
00:51:51,874 --> 00:51:55,044
So Lorraine was getting the perception
955
00:51:55,044 --> 00:51:57,246
that whatever this was,
this was a demonic force,
956
00:51:57,246 --> 00:52:00,983
and it came from the bowels of the earth.
957
00:52:00,983 --> 00:52:04,087
She believed that the
house had been possessed.
958
00:52:04,087 --> 00:52:06,522
There was an occult nature in there.
959
00:52:06,522 --> 00:52:10,026
At one point, Lorraine
Warren said to me, "Marvin,
960
00:52:10,026 --> 00:52:12,061
this is the closest to
hell I ever wanna get."
961
00:52:14,330 --> 00:52:16,099
Lorraine Warren's
specifically saying that this is
962
00:52:16,099 --> 00:52:20,002
the closest to hell that
she'll ever get is fascinating,
963
00:52:20,002 --> 00:52:23,239
considering all of the stuff
that she has experienced.
964
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,774
When they held these séances,
965
00:52:24,774 --> 00:52:26,275
I don't think they were
just trying to prove it.
966
00:52:26,275 --> 00:52:28,911
I think they were trying to
stop whatever was happening.
967
00:52:31,380 --> 00:52:34,684
And soon, something does happen--
968
00:52:34,684 --> 00:52:37,854
to the TV crew's cameraman.
969
00:52:37,854 --> 00:52:39,155
Steve gets to
970
00:52:39,155 --> 00:52:41,324
the top of the second floor stair landing.
971
00:52:41,324 --> 00:52:45,962
And all of a sudden, he turns around,
972
00:52:45,962 --> 00:52:50,566
and I saw his face go ashen.
973
00:52:50,566 --> 00:52:52,034
All the blood drained out.
974
00:52:52,034 --> 00:52:55,605
And he--I could see, he
breaks out into this sweat.
975
00:52:55,605 --> 00:52:57,773
And his face is contorted with pain.
976
00:52:57,773 --> 00:53:01,544
And he doubles over, clutching his chest,
977
00:53:01,544 --> 00:53:02,745
and he said all of a sudden,
978
00:53:02,745 --> 00:53:04,981
he just got severe heart palpitations.
979
00:53:04,981 --> 00:53:06,849
And that had never happened to him before.
980
00:53:12,288 --> 00:53:15,391
If you're in a place where
six murders had just happened
981
00:53:15,391 --> 00:53:17,627
13 months or so before,
982
00:53:17,627 --> 00:53:19,462
something like your heart pounding,
983
00:53:19,462 --> 00:53:21,597
that could be something
that you're just not familiar with
984
00:53:21,597 --> 00:53:24,200
and you're expecting
or anticipating the worst,
985
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,870
but can also be very common
in any paranormal situation.
986
00:53:27,870 --> 00:53:30,373
The energy is from
spirits that are left behind.
987
00:53:32,208 --> 00:53:34,877
Moments later, the Warrens'
photographer captures
988
00:53:34,877 --> 00:53:36,913
this haunting image.
989
00:53:40,583 --> 00:53:44,921
It shows at the top of
the stairs, in a doorway,
990
00:53:44,921 --> 00:53:46,622
what seems to be a little boy
991
00:53:46,622 --> 00:53:51,194
with very bright eyes
lighting up and a plaid shirt.
992
00:53:51,194 --> 00:53:52,929
There are many people
that feel that they actually
993
00:53:52,929 --> 00:53:55,665
captured the spirit of John Matthew DeFeo,
994
00:53:55,665 --> 00:53:57,900
who was the youngest of
the DeFeo children murdered
995
00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:00,469
that night, coming out
of one of the side rooms.
996
00:54:00,469 --> 00:54:02,138
There are others who
say that it was actually
997
00:54:02,138 --> 00:54:04,507
one of the investigators
that was there that night
998
00:54:04,507 --> 00:54:08,277
and was just captured in
the IR light of the camera
999
00:54:08,277 --> 00:54:12,281
and had this weird,
ghostly reflection in his eyes.
1000
00:54:12,281 --> 00:54:14,083
But when you see the photos side by side
1001
00:54:14,083 --> 00:54:17,220
of the supposed ghost boy and John Matthew,
1002
00:54:17,220 --> 00:54:20,623
it's hard to really
ignore the similarities.
1003
00:54:20,623 --> 00:54:24,026
I was not there when
the picture was developed.
1004
00:54:24,026 --> 00:54:28,164
And I cannot vouch for
its accuracy, veracity,
1005
00:54:28,164 --> 00:54:32,101
or authenticity. I don't know.
1006
00:54:32,101 --> 00:54:33,636
It's easy in this day and age
1007
00:54:33,636 --> 00:54:35,338
to fake evidence like that.
1008
00:54:35,338 --> 00:54:37,707
Back then, it was harder to fake.
1009
00:54:37,707 --> 00:54:41,410
But could it have been
possible that it was a ghost?
1010
00:54:41,410 --> 00:54:42,545
Absolutely.
1011
00:54:44,513 --> 00:54:46,349
Interest in the Amityville case
1012
00:54:46,349 --> 00:54:49,986
continues to build,
sparking the curiosity of
1013
00:54:49,986 --> 00:54:53,522
legendary parapsychologist Hans Holzer,
1014
00:54:53,522 --> 00:54:56,492
who signs on to conduct
his own investigation.
1015
00:54:58,728 --> 00:55:03,332
My father, Dr. Hans Holzer,
was one of the most known
1016
00:55:03,332 --> 00:55:06,235
American ghost hunters of our time.
1017
00:55:06,235 --> 00:55:08,504
In the case of the Amityville story,
1018
00:55:08,504 --> 00:55:12,141
you've got both true
crime and the paranormal.
1019
00:55:12,141 --> 00:55:14,877
Amityville, to him, was kind
of falling in that, you know,
1020
00:55:14,877 --> 00:55:17,179
what do we do with this?
1021
00:55:17,179 --> 00:55:20,750
Holzer takes the
investigation back to its roots:
1022
00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:23,286
the DeFeo murders.
1023
00:55:23,286 --> 00:55:25,221
Why would Ronnie act out in that way?
1024
00:55:25,221 --> 00:55:26,689
There's gotta be a reason why.
1025
00:55:26,689 --> 00:55:29,859
And that's really what he
was trying to find out about.
1026
00:55:29,859 --> 00:55:33,195
Hans Holzer utilized what
he called the Holzer Method,
1027
00:55:33,195 --> 00:55:35,531
which would involve him
bringing the equipment,
1028
00:55:35,531 --> 00:55:37,099
similar to what you see
paranormal researchers
1029
00:55:37,099 --> 00:55:40,102
use on TV today.
1030
00:55:40,102 --> 00:55:44,040
But he would also bring along
with him a trance medium.
1031
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,075
If you're a deep trance medium,
1032
00:55:46,075 --> 00:55:48,444
essentially means that
you are allowing your body
1033
00:55:48,444 --> 00:55:52,148
to be taken over to the said entity
1034
00:55:52,148 --> 00:55:55,518
that's in the environment at
the time to speak through you.
1035
00:55:55,518 --> 00:55:58,754
And the medium of his choice
then was Ethel Johnson-Meyers.
1036
00:56:00,790 --> 00:56:03,926
Once again, the Channel 5 news team joins
1037
00:56:03,926 --> 00:56:07,163
to document any paranormal activity.
1038
00:56:07,163 --> 00:56:10,366
Holzer had planned to
go to the house with Ethel,
1039
00:56:10,366 --> 00:56:12,835
and could I meet him there,
and could I do research?
1040
00:56:12,835 --> 00:56:14,537
I said, "Sure."
1041
00:56:14,537 --> 00:56:18,474
So the way Dr. Holzer
did his investigations
1042
00:56:18,474 --> 00:56:23,145
was he had his recorder and
five different Polaroid cameras.
1043
00:56:23,145 --> 00:56:26,816
So when Ethel went into a
trance, that tape was running.
1044
00:56:26,816 --> 00:56:30,886
And then he would speak
into the microphone to Ethel,
1045
00:56:30,886 --> 00:56:34,223
to the spirit "Tell
me who you are.
1046
00:56:34,223 --> 00:56:35,658
What is your name?"
1047
00:56:42,331 --> 00:56:46,369
But Hans Holzer's video camera froze up.
1048
00:56:46,369 --> 00:56:47,870
And he says, "That's the first time
1049
00:56:47,870 --> 00:56:49,805
this has ever happened to me."
1050
00:56:49,805 --> 00:56:53,542
Hans Holzer wanted physical
proof of what was going on.
1051
00:56:53,542 --> 00:56:56,345
He certainly believed the trance
mediums that he worked with.
1052
00:56:56,345 --> 00:56:58,614
But he knew that if he
wanted to convince people
1053
00:56:58,614 --> 00:57:01,417
that the paranormal was real,
you were gonna have to show them
1054
00:57:01,417 --> 00:57:06,155
that photograph or that piece
of film or that audio recording.
1055
00:57:06,155 --> 00:57:09,425
Holzer's Polaroid cameras are working,
1056
00:57:09,425 --> 00:57:13,095
and in this photo, capture
a presence in the house.
1057
00:57:15,698 --> 00:57:19,168
The bullet holes leftover
from the DeFeo murders
1058
00:57:19,168 --> 00:57:22,071
in this undoctored photo.
1059
00:57:22,071 --> 00:57:23,773
There is glowing light
1060
00:57:23,773 --> 00:57:26,442
that you cannot account for.
1061
00:57:26,442 --> 00:57:30,413
And that was something that
he would be very excited about.
1062
00:57:30,413 --> 00:57:33,048
Yeah, something is still here.
1063
00:57:33,048 --> 00:57:36,585
Somebody is forming that energy.
1064
00:57:36,585 --> 00:57:38,654
Holzer's not the only one sensing
1065
00:57:38,654 --> 00:57:40,956
a disturbance in the home.
1066
00:57:40,956 --> 00:57:43,459
His deep trance medium, Ethel Meyers,
1067
00:57:43,459 --> 00:57:46,929
also detects an unknown force.
1068
00:57:46,929 --> 00:57:48,497
With a deep trance medium,
1069
00:57:48,497 --> 00:57:50,399
they're going to use your vocal chords.
1070
00:57:50,399 --> 00:57:52,034
Your voice will change.
1071
00:57:52,034 --> 00:57:53,969
Your facial expressions
will start to shift,
1072
00:57:53,969 --> 00:57:57,139
almost as if you have a
makeup artist molding your face
1073
00:57:57,139 --> 00:57:58,707
to look like a character.
1074
00:57:58,707 --> 00:58:02,077
It's really quite scary.
1075
00:58:02,077 --> 00:58:04,113
What came through was the spirit
1076
00:58:04,113 --> 00:58:06,382
of a Native American chief.
1077
00:58:09,585 --> 00:58:11,620
Hans Holzer himself would later explain
1078
00:58:11,620 --> 00:58:15,958
Ethel's experience in an
interview with Marvin Scott.
1079
00:58:15,958 --> 00:58:19,228
On, uh, further investigation, I
discovered that the house was
1080
00:58:19,228 --> 00:58:21,597
built on Indian burial ground.
1081
00:58:21,597 --> 00:58:26,268
And that aroused the Indian to a warpath
1082
00:58:26,268 --> 00:58:28,037
against anybody living in the house.
1083
00:58:28,037 --> 00:58:29,872
That's when the fun started.
1084
00:58:29,872 --> 00:58:33,042
Holzer told me during an
interview that he believed
1085
00:58:33,042 --> 00:58:36,212
it was possessed because there was a chief
1086
00:58:36,212 --> 00:58:38,614
who was rebellious of
the house being there,
1087
00:58:38,614 --> 00:58:40,583
and this was his way of responding
1088
00:58:40,583 --> 00:58:43,752
to get the people out of the house.
1089
00:58:43,752 --> 00:58:48,057
This was the occult that was
occurring at 112 Ocean Avenue.
1090
00:58:48,057 --> 00:58:53,462
In my initial research back in early 1976,
1091
00:58:53,462 --> 00:58:56,031
I had gone to the
Amityville Historical Society,
1092
00:58:56,031 --> 00:58:58,501
and I had seen that there
were documents that there was,
1093
00:58:58,501 --> 00:59:00,336
in fact--the house had been built
1094
00:59:00,336 --> 00:59:04,340
on a Native American burial ground.
1095
00:59:04,340 --> 00:59:06,208
The house where Butch Defeo
1096
00:59:06,208 --> 00:59:10,312
murdered his entire family...
1097
00:59:10,312 --> 00:59:12,348
and later sent the Lutz family
1098
00:59:12,348 --> 00:59:15,084
running terrified into the night.
1099
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:18,320
When people are slaughtered in their sleep
1100
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,123
the way that the DeFeos were,
and you move into the home
1101
00:59:21,123 --> 00:59:22,925
and try to have a
happy life right afterward,
1102
00:59:22,925 --> 00:59:24,627
I think there's no question
1103
00:59:24,627 --> 00:59:27,296
that you're gonna run
into some terrible energy.
1104
00:59:27,296 --> 00:59:29,899
You're gonna run into
some paranormal activity.
1105
00:59:29,899 --> 00:59:32,568
Holzer's findings
further fuel the publicity
1106
00:59:32,568 --> 00:59:35,271
engulfing the Amityville case...
1107
00:59:35,271 --> 00:59:38,474
but nothing like what's about to come next.
1108
00:59:43,879 --> 00:59:45,514
The true story of the
Amityville Horror house,
1109
00:59:45,514 --> 00:59:46,782
part two.
1110
00:59:46,782 --> 00:59:49,051
So the Lutz family moved
in in December of 1975
1111
00:59:49,051 --> 00:59:51,887
and only stayed for a mere 28 days.
1112
00:59:51,887 --> 00:59:54,723
In that month, they experienced
weird paranormal activity
1113
00:59:54,723 --> 00:59:57,927
such as eyes peering into
the house from all the windows,
1114
00:59:57,927 --> 00:59:59,428
hearing unexplainable noises,
1115
00:59:59,428 --> 01:00:02,698
and even smelling
really foul, bizarre odors.
1116
01:00:09,471 --> 01:00:13,576
In 1976, news of the Lutz
family's strange encounters
1117
01:00:13,576 --> 01:00:16,712
within their recently
abandoned Amityville home
1118
01:00:16,712 --> 01:00:18,948
makes headlines across the nation.
1119
01:00:21,217 --> 01:00:22,851
Things such as green slime,
1120
01:00:22,851 --> 01:00:26,689
flies all gathering in
one area in the house,
1121
01:00:26,689 --> 01:00:29,992
disembodied voices, cold spots in the home,
1122
01:00:29,992 --> 01:00:31,927
Kathy levitating out of bed.
1123
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:37,066
That same year, George
and Kathy Lutz connect
1124
01:00:37,066 --> 01:00:42,237
with author Jay Anson to
share their terrifying story.
1125
01:00:42,237 --> 01:00:49,044
They had sent him 45
hours of taped conversations.
1126
01:00:49,044 --> 01:00:50,512
I'm a journalist.
1127
01:00:52,081 --> 01:00:54,116
I try to investigate as best as I can.
1128
01:00:54,116 --> 01:00:57,453
I was able to put together a
chronology of the events that
1129
01:00:57,453 --> 01:01:01,190
took place within that
framework of 28 days.
1130
01:01:01,190 --> 01:01:04,293
I sincerely believe they took place.
1131
01:01:07,029 --> 01:01:09,531
The book is an instant bestseller,
1132
01:01:09,531 --> 01:01:11,500
capturing in chilling detail
1133
01:01:11,500 --> 01:01:14,403
the story of both the brutal DeFeo murders
1134
01:01:14,403 --> 01:01:18,641
and the subsequent hauntings
experienced by the Lutzes.
1135
01:01:18,641 --> 01:01:22,711
People ate it up. And it takes off.
1136
01:01:22,711 --> 01:01:25,114
Americans love a good ghost story.
1137
01:01:25,114 --> 01:01:26,882
And there's no better ghost story
1138
01:01:26,882 --> 01:01:28,951
than the one that comes out of Amityville.
1139
01:01:30,886 --> 01:01:35,224
So in 1977, author Jay
Anson adapts their story into
1140
01:01:35,224 --> 01:01:37,559
his novel, "The Amityville Horror."
1141
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:39,194
And I saw the cover.
1142
01:01:39,194 --> 01:01:41,030
I saw the logo with the devil tail.
1143
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:44,166
And then I saw the words
"Based on a true story."
1144
01:01:44,166 --> 01:01:46,769
And that just captured my
attention right then and there.
1145
01:01:46,769 --> 01:01:49,638
I became obsessed with this case.
1146
01:01:49,638 --> 01:01:52,174
I got interested originally
1147
01:01:52,174 --> 01:01:54,243
in the Amityville story
1148
01:01:54,243 --> 01:01:58,047
by seeing my mother and sister's reaction
1149
01:01:58,047 --> 01:01:59,982
to Jay Anson's book.
1150
01:01:59,982 --> 01:02:03,652
And when I picked it up, the
house with the eye-like windows
1151
01:02:03,652 --> 01:02:06,455
just kind of called to
me. It fascinated me.
1152
01:02:08,757 --> 01:02:11,994
Almost overnight, the
quiet village of Amityville
1153
01:02:11,994 --> 01:02:15,898
turns into an unwanted tourist attraction.
1154
01:02:15,898 --> 01:02:18,567
I have to say from the
time the murders happened,
1155
01:02:18,567 --> 01:02:24,339
the traffic on Ocean Avenue
picked up unbelievably.
1156
01:02:24,339 --> 01:02:26,575
But the book is just the beginning.
1157
01:02:28,644 --> 01:02:33,549
In 1979, the motion picture
"The Amityville Horror" is released.
1158
01:02:43,826 --> 01:02:46,161
The film grosses nearly $8 million
1159
01:02:46,161 --> 01:02:47,696
its first weekend--
1160
01:02:47,696 --> 01:02:52,267
the equivalent of $30 million today.
1161
01:02:52,267 --> 01:02:56,071
"The Amityville Horror"
was a classic horror film.
1162
01:02:56,071 --> 01:02:57,740
It still holds its own today.
1163
01:02:57,740 --> 01:02:59,708
Those little curved windows in the attic.
1164
01:02:59,708 --> 01:03:01,610
That stays in public consciousness.
1165
01:03:01,610 --> 01:03:03,912
It becomes an archetype.
1166
01:03:03,912 --> 01:03:08,450
Soon, a second wave of
mania takes over the town.
1167
01:03:08,450 --> 01:03:09,885
Now, you all came up from Queens
1168
01:03:09,885 --> 01:03:12,421
to try to look at the house. Why?
1169
01:03:12,421 --> 01:03:13,956
I don't know. I haven't seen the movie yet.
1170
01:03:13,956 --> 01:03:16,625
I'm waiting to see the movie.
Just, you know, beforehand.
1171
01:03:16,625 --> 01:03:17,993
After that, when the movie came out,
1172
01:03:17,993 --> 01:03:19,728
then it stirred up stuff in the village
1173
01:03:19,728 --> 01:03:21,563
and it really became more of a nuisance,
1174
01:03:21,563 --> 01:03:23,232
or it did--it was a nuisance,
1175
01:03:23,232 --> 01:03:25,067
with people coming by all the time,
1176
01:03:25,067 --> 01:03:28,537
looking at the house and
walking on the property.
1177
01:03:28,537 --> 01:03:31,340
"The Amityville Horror" story
1178
01:03:31,340 --> 01:03:33,642
hit the American public consciousness
1179
01:03:33,642 --> 01:03:37,846
at just the right time for
this to get a lot of play.
1180
01:03:37,846 --> 01:03:40,616
It was--in the years
immediately following the release
1181
01:03:40,616 --> 01:03:43,185
of the book and the movie "The Exorcist."
1182
01:03:43,185 --> 01:03:44,553
And that kicked off an era
1183
01:03:44,553 --> 01:03:47,456
that we refer to as the Satanic Panic.
1184
01:03:49,424 --> 01:03:52,494
The movie comes out, and bam.
1185
01:03:52,494 --> 01:03:56,031
The legend is born, and it's in full swing.
1186
01:03:56,031 --> 01:03:58,834
People who were atheist, agnostics,
1187
01:03:58,834 --> 01:04:00,736
came out of that movie theater.
1188
01:04:00,736 --> 01:04:01,970
And the next thing you know,
1189
01:04:01,970 --> 01:04:05,841
people were sleeping with the lights on.
1190
01:04:05,841 --> 01:04:08,610
We have this fascinating paranormal story,
1191
01:04:08,610 --> 01:04:13,348
but also this murder trial
where they try and use
1192
01:04:13,348 --> 01:04:15,851
demonic presence in court.
1193
01:04:15,851 --> 01:04:19,822
And it's something that's
going to be debated forever.
1194
01:04:19,822 --> 01:04:22,324
I believe that something supernatural
1195
01:04:22,324 --> 01:04:24,393
occurred in that house.
1196
01:04:24,393 --> 01:04:27,196
Someone commented on one
of my friend's videos and said,
1197
01:04:27,196 --> 01:04:29,131
"That was entirely a hoax."
1198
01:04:29,131 --> 01:04:30,799
Says who? Were you there?
1199
01:04:30,799 --> 01:04:34,136
Are you able to produce
something that proves
1200
01:04:34,136 --> 01:04:36,805
one side or the other?
1201
01:04:36,805 --> 01:04:37,973
All of these people
1202
01:04:37,973 --> 01:04:39,842
skeptical about the Lutzes' story,
1203
01:04:39,842 --> 01:04:42,678
with people calling them liars and hoaxers
1204
01:04:42,678 --> 01:04:45,380
and saying that they're just
in this to make a buck, well,
1205
01:04:45,380 --> 01:04:47,749
the only thing they can do
to really defend themselves
1206
01:04:47,749 --> 01:04:51,653
and to make people believe
them is to take lie detector tests,
1207
01:04:51,653 --> 01:04:53,121
which they passed.
1208
01:04:54,823 --> 01:04:56,358
Suddenly, the Lutzes
1209
01:04:56,358 --> 01:05:00,195
begin making appearances on national TV.
1210
01:05:00,195 --> 01:05:02,397
It was George that went
on "The Merv Griffin Show"
1211
01:05:02,397 --> 01:05:04,199
and presented the ghost boy photo,
1212
01:05:04,199 --> 01:05:06,501
reigniting all the
discussion and the debate,
1213
01:05:06,501 --> 01:05:08,270
whether or not there was
actually a real haunting
1214
01:05:08,270 --> 01:05:09,705
that happened there.
1215
01:05:13,108 --> 01:05:15,410
Despite all the publicity,
1216
01:05:15,410 --> 01:05:17,880
there's one thing the Lutzes won't do.
1217
01:05:19,781 --> 01:05:24,219
Every TV network, every
primetime news magazine show,
1218
01:05:24,219 --> 01:05:26,822
they must've been throwing
blank checks at the Lutzes
1219
01:05:26,822 --> 01:05:28,023
to get the footage of them
1220
01:05:28,023 --> 01:05:29,858
walking through that house again.
1221
01:05:29,858 --> 01:05:32,461
But they just refused to do it.
1222
01:05:32,461 --> 01:05:34,029
For the next 50 years,
1223
01:05:34,029 --> 01:05:37,733
the entertainment industry
cashes in with countless books,
1224
01:05:37,733 --> 01:05:39,768
documentaries, and movies
1225
01:05:39,768 --> 01:05:43,705
about the DeFeo murders
and Lutz encounters.
1226
01:05:43,705 --> 01:05:45,474
I grew up learning about the
Amityville murders because
1227
01:05:45,474 --> 01:05:49,845
this was actually my dad's
first rated R film in theaters.
1228
01:05:49,845 --> 01:05:54,016
And to this day, he says it just
scared the daylights out of him.
1229
01:05:54,016 --> 01:05:55,484
Here we are today with just about
1230
01:05:55,484 --> 01:05:56,919
20 Amityville Horror movies
1231
01:05:56,919 --> 01:05:59,821
just kind of snowballed after that book.
1232
01:05:59,821 --> 01:06:01,123
The thing about the Amityville case
1233
01:06:01,123 --> 01:06:04,927
is because it is such an iconic visual,
1234
01:06:04,927 --> 01:06:09,932
that that house has become
a marketing cash cow.
1235
01:06:09,932 --> 01:06:12,367
No matter how bad the movie
is, people are gonna buy it.
1236
01:06:14,603 --> 01:06:16,471
When I was 13 years old,
1237
01:06:16,471 --> 01:06:18,106
I went on my first date with a boy.
1238
01:06:18,106 --> 01:06:22,077
And his mother took us to see
the Ryan Reynolds version of
1239
01:06:22,077 --> 01:06:23,211
"Amityville Horror."
1240
01:06:23,211 --> 01:06:25,948
I didn't know that it was a previous film.
1241
01:06:25,948 --> 01:06:27,716
I didn't know that it was real.
1242
01:06:27,716 --> 01:06:29,051
And then my parents were like,
1243
01:06:29,051 --> 01:06:31,186
that happened when we were younger,
1244
01:06:31,186 --> 01:06:33,255
and there was a huge film.
1245
01:06:33,255 --> 01:06:35,691
Then I started getting more
involved with researching.
1246
01:06:35,691 --> 01:06:37,392
Like, how could this be real?
1247
01:06:37,392 --> 01:06:40,062
And then, you know, Googling
"true story behind this movie".
1248
01:06:40,062 --> 01:06:42,998
And that's when I really understood it.
1249
01:06:44,866 --> 01:06:46,868
If it's one thing about
the American people,
1250
01:06:46,868 --> 01:06:49,771
it's that we love and hate a mystery.
1251
01:06:54,276 --> 01:06:57,112
But one man may know the answer to what
1252
01:06:57,112 --> 01:07:00,949
really happened to the
DeFeo and Lutz families.
1253
01:07:03,285 --> 01:07:07,222
Is this fact or fiction?
It's fiction. Absolutely.
1254
01:07:10,359 --> 01:07:11,560
It's the anniversary of
1255
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,195
"The Amityville Horror" movie from 1979.
1256
01:07:13,195 --> 01:07:16,832
So I figured why not visit
the actual house itself,
1257
01:07:16,832 --> 01:07:18,300
but in a respectful manner.
1258
01:07:28,176 --> 01:07:29,811
The fascination with the hauntings
1259
01:07:29,811 --> 01:07:34,783
inside 112 Ocean Avenue continues today.
1260
01:07:34,783 --> 01:07:38,086
We do get a lot of,
uh, interest and tourists.
1261
01:07:38,086 --> 01:07:42,758
People coming in to look at
the house and curiosity about it.
1262
01:07:44,626 --> 01:07:47,763
These hauntings and paranormal things
1263
01:07:47,763 --> 01:07:50,866
that just piques people's interest.
1264
01:07:50,866 --> 01:07:53,802
And it's just one of those
human nature things.
1265
01:07:53,802 --> 01:07:55,504
But it's just not really
fair for the people
1266
01:07:55,504 --> 01:07:56,772
that do live there,
1267
01:07:56,772 --> 01:07:59,608
for the intrusions they
get on the property.
1268
01:07:59,608 --> 01:08:03,345
It's become a place where
it's almost like a pilgrimage.
1269
01:08:03,345 --> 01:08:04,980
You really, for the most part,
1270
01:08:04,980 --> 01:08:07,516
get people that are just
curious and interested.
1271
01:08:07,516 --> 01:08:11,219
But even when we come here
to make peace with Amityville,
1272
01:08:11,219 --> 01:08:14,222
Amityville might not be
ready to make peace with us.
1273
01:08:14,222 --> 01:08:16,725
It's not uncommon to be
walking along the street,
1274
01:08:16,725 --> 01:08:19,361
and then seeing that car
that's holding up traffic,
1275
01:08:19,361 --> 01:08:21,997
that's looking at the
numbers on the houses,
1276
01:08:21,997 --> 01:08:24,866
and they're having a hard time
finding that haunted house that
1277
01:08:24,866 --> 01:08:28,036
they think is haunted, and it's not.
1278
01:08:28,036 --> 01:08:31,206
There's been very happy families there.
1279
01:08:31,206 --> 01:08:32,908
The feeling that's left in that house now
1280
01:08:32,908 --> 01:08:37,813
is what is left over from
what happened in 1974.
1281
01:08:37,813 --> 01:08:39,281
It's left an imprint on the house,
1282
01:08:39,281 --> 01:08:42,250
this horrible stamp on
it for the rest of history.
1283
01:08:43,452 --> 01:08:47,222
An imprint left by Ronnie
"Butch" DeFeo when
1284
01:08:47,222 --> 01:08:51,026
he suddenly murdered his
entire family in cold blood.
1285
01:08:52,594 --> 01:08:55,130
Ronnie DeFeo said
there is a demon there that
1286
01:08:55,130 --> 01:08:57,566
completely took over his body
and made him all these things.
1287
01:08:57,566 --> 01:08:59,034
He heard voices.
1288
01:09:01,002 --> 01:09:04,372
But 21 years after failing
to convince a jury that
1289
01:09:04,372 --> 01:09:09,010
the devil made him do it,
DeFeo finally comes forward
1290
01:09:09,010 --> 01:09:12,414
to unburden himself with the truth.
1291
01:09:12,414 --> 01:09:18,386
In 1995, he says his demon
defense was all a sham...
1292
01:09:18,386 --> 01:09:21,957
invented by his lawyer William Weber.
1293
01:09:21,957 --> 01:09:23,725
Mr. Weber tells me, "Look.
1294
01:09:23,725 --> 01:09:25,560
"We got 'The Godfather' and 'The Exorcist'
1295
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:26,862
"all in one here, Ronnie.
1296
01:09:26,862 --> 01:09:29,231
We're gonna make big, big money."
1297
01:09:29,231 --> 01:09:31,233
My lawyer told me
what to tell a psychiatrist
1298
01:09:31,233 --> 01:09:34,603
so they would go along with everything.
1299
01:09:34,603 --> 01:09:38,840
William Weber came up with
the creative defense that there was
1300
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,610
something supernatural
involved in the house.
1301
01:09:41,610 --> 01:09:44,446
He had sold Butch DeFeo on the idea
1302
01:09:44,446 --> 01:09:46,982
that there was gonna be a book
1303
01:09:46,982 --> 01:09:50,185
and he would be famous,
and there would be money.
1304
01:09:50,185 --> 01:09:52,454
It would be a relief if we could blame
1305
01:09:52,454 --> 01:09:55,323
the devil or demons or ghosts
1306
01:09:55,323 --> 01:09:58,527
simply because of the
fact to know that your fellow
1307
01:09:58,527 --> 01:10:03,331
human being is capable
of something so horrendous
1308
01:10:03,331 --> 01:10:05,167
is truly terrifying.
1309
01:10:05,167 --> 01:10:07,369
More so than any disembodied
1310
01:10:07,369 --> 01:10:12,707
or giant Jody the pigs, or oozing walls.
1311
01:10:12,707 --> 01:10:15,544
Weber continues this story with the home's
1312
01:10:15,544 --> 01:10:18,013
next residents as well.
1313
01:10:18,013 --> 01:10:19,447
After the trial was over,
1314
01:10:19,447 --> 01:10:22,951
I was introduced to
George and Kathy, uh, Lutz,
1315
01:10:22,951 --> 01:10:25,954
who were then living
in the DeFeo residence.
1316
01:10:25,954 --> 01:10:29,524
And they had approached
me with an idea that, uh,
1317
01:10:29,524 --> 01:10:32,227
there were people
interested with big money, uh,
1318
01:10:32,227 --> 01:10:37,699
in developing the demonism
aspect of the DeFeo murder.
1319
01:10:37,699 --> 01:10:42,671
Bill Weber said the story grew
over dinner with the Lutzes.
1320
01:10:42,671 --> 01:10:46,908
A matter of fact, he said it
grew over a bottle of wine.
1321
01:10:46,908 --> 01:10:50,345
One bottle of wine?
No, three bottles of wine!
1322
01:10:50,345 --> 01:10:54,816
And the story just grew and grew and grew.
1323
01:10:54,816 --> 01:10:56,885
The Lutzes themselves confirm
1324
01:10:56,885 --> 01:11:00,555
Weber's account to reporter Laura DiDio.
1325
01:11:00,555 --> 01:11:04,426
The Lutzes had taped a
conversation with William Weber.
1326
01:11:04,426 --> 01:11:08,463
And they said, "Before we play this,
1327
01:11:08,463 --> 01:11:11,933
"we just want you to know
we're not too proud of this at all.
1328
01:11:11,933 --> 01:11:13,435
We're very embarrassed."
1329
01:11:13,435 --> 01:11:16,738
And on the tape, I heard William Weber
1330
01:11:16,738 --> 01:11:18,106
was leading the charge,
1331
01:11:18,106 --> 01:11:22,077
which was we should be
able to get several movies
1332
01:11:22,077 --> 01:11:24,179
and several books out of it, at least.
1333
01:11:24,179 --> 01:11:29,718
Which, again, going back to 1975, '76,
1334
01:11:29,718 --> 01:11:31,820
that's pretty good marketing.
1335
01:11:31,820 --> 01:11:35,390
He already had franchise in mind.
1336
01:11:35,390 --> 01:11:37,926
But not everyone reaps the reward.
1337
01:11:39,127 --> 01:11:40,829
The Lutzes, of all the money that was made
1338
01:11:40,829 --> 01:11:42,264
on the films and the books,
1339
01:11:42,264 --> 01:11:43,865
they made very little out of this.
1340
01:11:43,865 --> 01:11:46,101
I think the total they ever
saw, if the figure is correct,
1341
01:11:46,101 --> 01:11:48,136
something like $300,000.
1342
01:11:48,136 --> 01:11:52,440
But millions were made
on the films and the books.
1343
01:11:52,440 --> 01:11:54,042
The defense lawyer, William Weber,
1344
01:11:54,042 --> 01:11:56,177
definitely took advantage
of the time period
1345
01:11:56,177 --> 01:11:59,781
and the Satanic Panic going
on. I think a lot of the stories
1346
01:11:59,781 --> 01:12:01,616
that we hear of this Amityville home
1347
01:12:01,616 --> 01:12:04,419
are a snowball effect,
where we start off with
1348
01:12:04,419 --> 01:12:08,290
one thing spooky, and
then you kind of add to that,
1349
01:12:08,290 --> 01:12:10,625
and then from there, it
just keeps going, and going,
1350
01:12:10,625 --> 01:12:15,263
and it becomes something so
much greater than it was meant to.
1351
01:12:15,263 --> 01:12:17,165
It's kind of like the little
telephone game you played
1352
01:12:17,165 --> 01:12:18,967
in--in grade school, you know?
1353
01:12:18,967 --> 01:12:21,569
You're always gonna have controversy,
1354
01:12:21,569 --> 01:12:24,506
people saying this was, uh...not authentic,
1355
01:12:24,506 --> 01:12:26,775
and other people saying,
no, it really happened.
1356
01:12:26,775 --> 01:12:28,310
The truth is always in the middle.
1357
01:12:29,744 --> 01:12:32,247
And nothing is more shocking than the truth
1358
01:12:32,247 --> 01:12:36,051
DeFeo admits to next.
1359
01:12:36,051 --> 01:12:37,619
I can honestly say that I'm not guilty.
1360
01:12:40,622 --> 01:12:42,757
The Lutz family, they moved into the house
1361
01:12:42,757 --> 01:12:44,492
in December of 1975.
1362
01:12:44,492 --> 01:12:47,529
However, they only lived
in the house for 28 days.
1363
01:12:47,529 --> 01:12:49,164
They started talking to
the media about the fact
1364
01:12:49,164 --> 01:12:50,432
that the house was haunted.
1365
01:12:50,432 --> 01:12:52,467
And this is when people started suspecting
1366
01:12:52,467 --> 01:12:56,705
that they were making up
the story for fame or notoriety.
1367
01:12:56,705 --> 01:13:00,241
After admitting his devil
defense was a sham,
1368
01:13:00,241 --> 01:13:04,612
in 1995, Ronnie "Butch"
DeFeo decides he can no longer
1369
01:13:04,612 --> 01:13:09,150
hold back his family's darkest secret.
1370
01:13:09,150 --> 01:13:12,987
He finally comes clean
1371
01:13:12,987 --> 01:13:17,225
what really happened inside
their home that horrific night.
1372
01:13:18,860 --> 01:13:21,663
My sister had come to
a point in her life where
1373
01:13:21,663 --> 01:13:23,198
she wanted to be rebellious.
1374
01:13:23,198 --> 01:13:25,333
She wanted to get out of the house.
1375
01:13:25,333 --> 01:13:28,570
And you couldn't be free and be a DeFeo.
1376
01:13:28,570 --> 01:13:30,638
In that house, nobody could be free.
1377
01:13:30,638 --> 01:13:35,343
You have to go a step
back and to understand that
1378
01:13:35,343 --> 01:13:39,147
the DeFeo household
was a ticking time bomb.
1379
01:13:39,147 --> 01:13:44,319
There was greed, drugs,
organized crime involvement.
1380
01:13:44,319 --> 01:13:47,856
The family had a horrible
amount of domestic abuse
1381
01:13:47,856 --> 01:13:52,627
from the father, Big Ronnie Sr.
1382
01:13:52,627 --> 01:13:54,529
According to Butch's account,
1383
01:13:54,529 --> 01:13:58,466
18-year-old Dawn DeFeo wanted out.
1384
01:13:58,466 --> 01:14:03,004
And on the night of November 13, 1974,
1385
01:14:03,004 --> 01:14:06,341
she was ready to kill for her freedom.
1386
01:14:06,341 --> 01:14:11,312
According to Butch DeFeo,
Dawn was pressing and pressing.
1387
01:14:11,312 --> 01:14:16,117
She's the one that brought
the rifle down to Butch and said,
1388
01:14:16,117 --> 01:14:18,019
"We gotta do it. We gotta do it now.
1389
01:14:18,019 --> 01:14:19,788
If we don't do, we're never gonna be free."
1390
01:14:21,022 --> 01:14:22,323
I got high.
1391
01:14:22,323 --> 01:14:24,426
And I was using a lot of heroin back then.
1392
01:14:24,426 --> 01:14:27,962
I had gone down the
basement, had the TV on.
1393
01:14:27,962 --> 01:14:30,331
But a stoned Butch dismisses
1394
01:14:30,331 --> 01:14:32,734
his sister's ramblings.
1395
01:14:32,734 --> 01:14:35,170
My mother and father
apparently went to bed.
1396
01:14:35,170 --> 01:14:36,571
Everybody went to bed.
1397
01:14:38,139 --> 01:14:39,174
You gotta remember now, I'm high.
1398
01:14:39,174 --> 01:14:41,376
I'm still drunk.
1399
01:14:41,376 --> 01:14:44,245
And then I heard a roar.
1400
01:14:44,245 --> 01:14:48,917
I went upstairs, it was a bad smell.
1401
01:14:48,917 --> 01:14:51,686
At that time, I didn't
realize what the smell was.
1402
01:14:51,686 --> 01:14:53,688
It was sulfur.
1403
01:14:53,688 --> 01:14:56,157
Went into my mother and father's room.
1404
01:14:56,157 --> 01:14:58,159
And I saw a hole in my father's back.
1405
01:15:01,930 --> 01:15:05,600
Beside Ronnie Sr., Butch's mother, Louise.
1406
01:15:08,269 --> 01:15:11,706
And the horror continues.
1407
01:15:11,706 --> 01:15:13,041
I turned around,
1408
01:15:13,041 --> 01:15:14,676
and my sister's room was directly across.
1409
01:15:14,676 --> 01:15:17,011
And, uh, she had a hole
in the side of her head,
1410
01:15:17,011 --> 01:15:20,215
and it was blood coming down.
1411
01:15:20,215 --> 01:15:23,418
13-year-old Allison DeFeo.
1412
01:15:23,418 --> 01:15:24,986
She had a pink shag rug.
1413
01:15:24,986 --> 01:15:26,821
I'll never forget that.
1414
01:15:26,821 --> 01:15:31,392
Next, Butch discovers 12-year-old Marc,
1415
01:15:31,392 --> 01:15:34,262
and the youngest member
of the DeFeo family,
1416
01:15:34,262 --> 01:15:37,665
nine-year-old John Matthew.
1417
01:15:37,665 --> 01:15:41,269
Both of my brothers' rooms, they were dead.
1418
01:15:41,269 --> 01:15:44,305
Then comes Butch's biggest shock.
1419
01:15:44,305 --> 01:15:47,976
His sister Dawn is still alive.
1420
01:15:47,976 --> 01:15:51,779
And she's armed with a rifle.
1421
01:15:51,779 --> 01:15:54,716
I looked at her. She looked at me.
1422
01:15:54,716 --> 01:15:57,318
And we got into a wrestling match.
1423
01:15:57,318 --> 01:16:00,421
I took the rifle away from
her. I shot her in the head.
1424
01:16:03,525 --> 01:16:05,059
Some of the forensics seem
1425
01:16:05,059 --> 01:16:08,930
to corroborate Butch's story.
1426
01:16:08,930 --> 01:16:10,064
When you look at it,
1427
01:16:10,064 --> 01:16:11,399
there's evidence that there was gunpowder
1428
01:16:11,399 --> 01:16:13,501
on the front of Dawn's
dress and on her hands.
1429
01:16:15,970 --> 01:16:18,806
But others believe Butch
actively helped his sister
1430
01:16:18,806 --> 01:16:23,044
commit the murder before
he turned the rifle on her.
1431
01:16:23,044 --> 01:16:24,112
I have always maintained
1432
01:16:24,112 --> 01:16:25,713
there was a second shooter.
1433
01:16:25,713 --> 01:16:28,449
And I actually didn't realize
that that was even a thing until
1434
01:16:28,449 --> 01:16:32,687
I looked into the actual
files and found the evidence.
1435
01:16:32,687 --> 01:16:36,190
Herman Race, the retired
New York City detective
1436
01:16:36,190 --> 01:16:37,825
working for the defense,
1437
01:16:37,825 --> 01:16:40,562
uncovered that there was
more than one gun used,
1438
01:16:40,562 --> 01:16:43,231
and there was accomplices
involved that actually kept
1439
01:16:43,231 --> 01:16:46,467
the kids quiet during the murders.
1440
01:16:46,467 --> 01:16:50,305
Remember, even if you just
look at one murder weapon,
1441
01:16:50,305 --> 01:16:54,208
a .35 Marlin is so loud
that you can go deaf
1442
01:16:54,208 --> 01:16:55,877
from the firing of it.
1443
01:16:55,877 --> 01:16:58,112
And this is a small house.
1444
01:17:03,017 --> 01:17:06,120
It's incredible that the
victims didn't hear any of
1445
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,457
the shots over the 15-minute period.
1446
01:17:09,457 --> 01:17:11,159
But that's not all.
1447
01:17:11,159 --> 01:17:12,660
Not all the bodies
1448
01:17:12,660 --> 01:17:14,762
that were found in bed were shot in bed.
1449
01:17:14,762 --> 01:17:19,367
So, the police knew from day
one that the bodies were planted.
1450
01:17:19,367 --> 01:17:22,337
Um, or at least the parents
were made to look like
1451
01:17:22,337 --> 01:17:25,240
they had been sleeping peacefully.
1452
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,575
I think that he staged
the entire crime scene
1453
01:17:27,575 --> 01:17:30,778
and he cleaned it up himself
before he did anything about it.
1454
01:17:30,778 --> 01:17:34,148
I can honestly say that
I'm not guilty of the, uh,
1455
01:17:34,148 --> 01:17:36,017
crime that I was found guilty of.
1456
01:17:36,017 --> 01:17:38,820
I'm guilty of one act, and
the act was manslaughter,
1457
01:17:38,820 --> 01:17:40,455
not murder.
1458
01:17:40,455 --> 01:17:42,290
Now, was Butch DeFeo completely innocent?
1459
01:17:42,290 --> 01:17:43,558
No, he was not innocent.
1460
01:17:43,558 --> 01:17:46,661
He had a hand in the murder of Dawn.
1461
01:17:46,661 --> 01:17:50,832
But he was adamant that
he never planned or intended
1462
01:17:50,832 --> 01:17:53,034
the murder of the younger children.
1463
01:17:57,405 --> 01:18:00,908
But was Butch DeFeo telling the truth?
1464
01:18:00,908 --> 01:18:06,347
Was his sister Dawn both
the main killer and the victim?
1465
01:18:06,347 --> 01:18:09,951
Or, was there truly a
darker underlying force
1466
01:18:09,951 --> 01:18:12,487
at play within the home?
1467
01:18:12,487 --> 01:18:18,092
Something that drove Butch
and the Lutz family to madness?
1468
01:18:18,092 --> 01:18:21,929
The DeFeo murders are quite
an interesting case because it is
1469
01:18:21,929 --> 01:18:24,932
going to forever pull
people in different directions.
1470
01:18:24,932 --> 01:18:28,736
Whether or not this is one
of the most intense cases of
1471
01:18:28,736 --> 01:18:33,941
demonic possession or if this
is simply a person disturbed,
1472
01:18:33,941 --> 01:18:36,878
wanting to do these things.
1473
01:18:36,878 --> 01:18:41,649
And on March 12, 2021,
the mystery only deepens.
1474
01:18:44,385 --> 01:18:47,722
Breaking news. On March 12, 2021,
1475
01:18:47,722 --> 01:18:51,826
Ronald DeFeo Jr. died
in prison at the age of 69.
1476
01:18:51,826 --> 01:18:54,028
So far, the cause of death is undetermined
1477
01:18:54,028 --> 01:18:56,431
until an autopsy is performed.
1478
01:18:56,431 --> 01:18:59,333
And if you don't know
who he is, he's better known
1479
01:18:59,333 --> 01:19:01,836
as the Amityville Horror killer.
1480
01:19:01,836 --> 01:19:05,573
Yes, the one that all
the movies are based off.
1481
01:19:05,573 --> 01:19:08,576
The cause of death is still unknown.
1482
01:19:08,576 --> 01:19:10,011
Once I heard about the death
1483
01:19:10,011 --> 01:19:12,413
of Ronald "Butch" DeFeo Jr.,
1484
01:19:12,413 --> 01:19:13,781
I was like, I have to talk about this.
1485
01:19:13,781 --> 01:19:15,817
And I'm quite literally
throwing makeup on my face
1486
01:19:15,817 --> 01:19:19,320
and trying to get a
video out there on TikTok.
1487
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,489
It's a huge death.
1488
01:19:23,324 --> 01:19:25,626
When Ronnie DeFeo died,
1489
01:19:25,626 --> 01:19:27,195
people started coming again.
1490
01:19:27,195 --> 01:19:29,864
You get that traffic, and it just
becomes more of a nuisance
1491
01:19:29,864 --> 01:19:34,035
than a positive thing for the village.
1492
01:19:34,035 --> 01:19:37,572
DeFeo's passing reignites a generation's
1493
01:19:37,572 --> 01:19:40,775
fascination with the legendary tale
1494
01:19:40,775 --> 01:19:45,747
and its haunting effects
on not one, but two families.
1495
01:19:46,981 --> 01:19:51,786
The desire to hear more
about it is seemingly insatiable.
1496
01:19:51,786 --> 01:19:53,588
And that brings people out.
1497
01:19:53,588 --> 01:19:58,993
And we are now into
third and fourth generation
1498
01:19:58,993 --> 01:20:01,095
Amityville aficionados.
1499
01:20:01,095 --> 01:20:04,599
Somebody's still normal
living in this crazy house.
1500
01:20:04,599 --> 01:20:08,936
The story of Amityville
is never going to end.
1501
01:20:08,936 --> 01:20:13,474
It has already withstood
50 years, several films,
1502
01:20:13,474 --> 01:20:16,477
multiple documentaries, multiple books,
1503
01:20:16,477 --> 01:20:19,647
podcasts, TikTokers, YouTubers.
1504
01:20:19,647 --> 01:20:22,016
I think there's always
gonna be that interest.
1505
01:20:23,918 --> 01:20:26,020
They claim that it's not haunted at all.
1506
01:20:26,020 --> 01:20:27,388
But I don't know.
1507
01:20:27,388 --> 01:20:28,856
I find that a little hard to believe here.
1508
01:20:28,856 --> 01:20:30,792
To be clear, everybody
who's lived in the home since
1509
01:20:30,792 --> 01:20:33,194
has never had anything
paranormal happen to them.
1510
01:20:33,194 --> 01:20:35,062
So I don't know, pretty iffy to me.
1511
01:20:35,062 --> 01:20:36,631
People like to debate these things.
1512
01:20:36,631 --> 01:20:38,866
And now you have social media.
1513
01:20:38,866 --> 01:20:40,535
And you've got the digital world.
1514
01:20:40,535 --> 01:20:43,905
And this is the granddaddy
of all ghost stories.
1515
01:20:43,905 --> 01:20:45,706
And when you're talking
about the supernatural,
1516
01:20:45,706 --> 01:20:48,943
you either believe it
or you don't believe it.
1517
01:20:48,943 --> 01:20:51,446
I believe that something supernatural
1518
01:20:51,446 --> 01:20:52,680
occurred in that house.
1519
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,416
Do I think it started with the DeFeos?
1520
01:20:55,416 --> 01:20:57,552
I don't know where it happened,
1521
01:20:57,552 --> 01:21:01,756
but I do not think that the Lutz story
1522
01:21:01,756 --> 01:21:04,125
was completely fabricated.
1523
01:21:04,125 --> 01:21:06,227
I think it's a great story,
and I think it's a story that
1524
01:21:06,227 --> 01:21:08,796
will continue to be told from
generation to generation.
1525
01:21:08,796 --> 01:21:13,668
It's a great topic up for debate.
1526
01:21:13,668 --> 01:21:16,771
When the legend becomes
fact, you print the legend.
1527
01:21:16,771 --> 01:21:18,673
And that's where we're
at with the Amityville case,
1528
01:21:18,673 --> 01:21:21,008
that no matter how
much fact we can decipher
1529
01:21:21,008 --> 01:21:23,010
from what really happened and what didn't,
1530
01:21:23,010 --> 01:21:25,012
the legend is always gonna be stronger.
1531
01:21:59,313 --> 01:22:00,915
People think I'm obsessed with this.
1532
01:22:00,915 --> 01:22:03,551
But I'm okay with it. I
am obsessed with it.
1533
01:22:03,551 --> 01:22:06,988
Ronald DeFeo Jr. has
died in police custody.
1534
01:22:06,988 --> 01:22:08,856
So far, the cause of death is undetermined
1535
01:22:08,856 --> 01:22:11,259
until an autopsy is performed.
1536
01:22:11,259 --> 01:22:13,227
I am in Amityville right now.
1537
01:22:13,227 --> 01:22:16,631
Today is the anniversary
of "The Amityville Horror".
1538
01:22:16,631 --> 01:22:18,132
And this house right here is said to be
1539
01:22:18,132 --> 01:22:20,902
one of the most evil locations on earth.
1540
01:22:20,902 --> 01:22:22,904
I just think it's a national landmark.
1541
01:22:22,904 --> 01:22:26,073
Right there. Amityville Horror house.
1542
01:22:26,073 --> 01:22:28,042
The kids of the Lutz family
said that the hauntings
1543
01:22:28,042 --> 01:22:29,510
were all too real.
1544
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:31,746
Please tell me you see that too.
1545
01:22:31,746 --> 01:22:34,081
That's so freakin' crazy!
1546
01:22:34,081 --> 01:22:35,816
If you're gonna try
and put it all together,
1547
01:22:35,816 --> 01:22:37,518
take all these pieces
and put 'em all together,
1548
01:22:37,518 --> 01:22:40,788
and try to make sense of it all together,
1549
01:22:40,788 --> 01:22:42,356
your head would explode.
1550
01:22:42,356 --> 01:22:43,524
How do you end it?
1551
01:22:43,524 --> 01:22:44,625
I don't know.
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