All language subtitles for Episode 01 Edmund Kemper

-On August 27, 1964,

in North Fork, California,

15-year-old Edmund Kemper

shot and killed
his grandmother Maude.

Then, when he returned home,

the boy also shot and murdered
his grandfather Edmund Sr.

-Do I think Kemper
is an evil man?

The answer has to be yes.

He is the definition

of violence and evil.

You pray nobody else is
out there like that again.

-Kemper Jr.
then called his mother,

to tell her what he'd done.

-He says, "I've killed
my grandparents,"

and she tells him,
"Well, you stupid boy,

just call the police and wait
there until they arrive."

-Released after just 5 years

in a facility
for the criminally insane,

Kemper went on a killing spree

that targeted young,
female coeds.

-She was hitchhiking home
from school.

She was taken
out to a remote area,

where she was shot in the head
with a .22-caliber gun.

-In all, the vicious
serial killer

would slaughter 10 people,

including his mother.

He would typically dismember and
sexually desecrate the bodies,

making Edmund Kemper one of the
world's most evil killers.

For nearly 10 terrifying years
between 1964 and 1973,

a 6'9",
300-pound man-mountain,

Edmund Kemper,
preyed on the innocent.

His hunting grounds were
in and around

the beautiful beach town

of Santa Cruz,
in Northern California.

-People know the city
of Santa Cruz by its beaches

and body parts of these people
were found in the sand,

sticking out of the sand.

So you can imagine, now,
the fright in the community.

You know, "What is going on?"

-Kemper's reign of terror began

after he was released
from Atascadero State Hospital

for murdering both
of his grandparents

when he was a juvenile.

He would go on to kill
another eight people,

including his mother;
her neighbor;

and six young women,
all female coeds.

When some of the murdered
and mutilated bodies began

to show up,
half-buried on local beaches,

the public was horrified.

-It's just one of the strangest
times in California history.

-Terry Medina was a detective

with the Santa Cruz
County Sheriff's Office

in what were trying times
for the Golden State

and the investigators charged
with protecting them.

-We're trying to say,

"Stop hitchhiking,"

and there was a big
backlash from that.

You have to remember, now,
it's flower power.

It's a protest
of the Vietnam War

and "The man can't tell us
what to do

and the pigs
can't tell us what to do.

We're not gonna stop
hitchhiking.

It is our right."

-The fact that we had
the protests,

Harvey Milk was assassinated,

so, there was a lot of stuff
going on in the area.

-Forrest Schall lost
his sister Cindy in 1973.

It was very difficult.

I lost my sister.

My mom lost her daughter.

-19-year-old Cindy Schall
was callously killed by Kemper

on January 7, 1973,

in the woods near Santa Cruz

and her lifeless body
was defiled.

-Oh, she was
a rambunctious child.

She was a very giving,
caring individual,

and she was sent to some
of the better schools

'cause my mom
really busted her butt

to make sure she got
the best education.

-It was not just coeds

who were targets
in California in the 1970s.

The fear was that anyone
could be a victim,

young or old, man or woman.

That was because there were
at least three serial killers

on the loose in California
at the same time.

-There was also another
murderer, named Herbert Mullin,

who killed 10 girls in the
same vicinity as Edmund Kemper,

and, on top of that,

the Zodiac was loose,

and so there was a lot of fear.

-But this is the story of one

of the most sadistic
serial killers ever known:

Edmund Kemper.

It began some 70 years ago.

-Kemper was born in 1948

and he came into the world
in the postwar years

and, rather than being
a time of hope

and a time of prosperity
for him,

it was a time of abuse;
it was a time of neglect.

-Kemper lived in Burbank,
in Southern California,

with his mother, Clarnell;

his father, also called Edmund;

and his two sisters.

-His father was
a World War II veteran

and had worked
on nuclear testing

before coming back after the war
to work as an electrician.

Ed's father used the expression,

"Suicide missions
were nothing compared

to living with Clarnell."

Clarnell was
an extraordinary personality:

neurotic, aggressive,

alcoholic,

and utterly domineering.

She terrorized
both her husband and her son,

favoring the two daughters.

-In 1957,
when Kemper was 9 years old,

his parents divorced.

His mother took him
and his two sisters

to live with her
in Helena, Montana.

She would allegedly play havoc
with the young boy's psyche.

-She demeaned him
and she abused him

and basically ostracized him
and made him feel terrible.

-Kemper expresses,

more than almost any serial
killer I've ever heard of,

a hatred of his mother
that's indescribable.

-The young Kemper develops
some macabre fascinations.

-He would play games
with his sisters,

like gas chamber
or electric chair.

He would get them to tie
himself to a chair

and then he would pretend
to be electrocuted.

-Afraid that he would harm
his sisters,

when he was 10,

Kemper's mother ordered him
to sleep in the basement.

-Now, you can have two
different views of this.

One is that it's horribly cruel,

and the other is

this is a mother who did
the only thing she could

to protect her daughter.

Regardless of the explanation,

from Kemper's point of view,
it was torture

and he reviled his mother.

-Aged 13, young Kemper took off

and went to find his father
in California.

-He goes and he finds
his father,

but his father doesn't
really want to know

'cause he's got a new life now.

He has a stepson.
He has this new family unit

and Ed feels incredibly
rejected by that.

-But his mother rejected
him, too.

A year later,
she sent the boy, aged 14,

to live with his paternal
grandparents

on a farm
in North Fork, California.

It would be a fatal decision.

-His grandmother is very
similar to his mother.

She's not particularly
nice to him.

-Kemper would grow to be
an imposing physical figure.

At 15, he already stood
6'4" tall.

-He grew to 6'9";
weighed 21 stone,

300 pounds.

He was, in a way,
almost a Frankenstein figure.

-Tragically, the die was cast

and the powerful teen was about
to strike with a monstrous rage.

On August the 27th, 1964,

a 15-year-old Kemper
would kill for the first time.

-His grandmother is sitting
at the kitchen table.

Without really any warning,

Kemper goes and fetches a rifle,
which is in the house,

and shoots her.

In fact, he shoots her twice,
just to make sure she's dead.

Then, he sits down
at the kitchen table,

opposite the body
of his grandmother,

and waits for his grandfather,

and he shoots him, too.

-Then, in a bizarre twist,
Kemper made a surprising move.

-Immediately after he killed
his grandparents,

he calls his mother
and he says,

"I've killed my grandparents."

And she tells him,
"Well, you stupid boy.

Just call the police and wait
there until they arrive."

-And he sits there,
waiting for the police.

He doesn't run.

He doesn't do anything.

And, when they get there,
he explains it,

"Well, I wanted to find out

what it felt like
to kill Grandmother."

-Arrested, and diagnosed
with paranoid schizophrenia,

Kemper was incarcerated

in the Atascadero State
Hospital in California.

In the high-security facility
for the criminally insane,

Kemper seemed
to have found peace.

-He was an absolutely
model inmate.

He helped the staff;
he organized visits.

He started doing
psychiatric testing.

They realized, at Atascadero,

that he actually had
an extremely high IQ:

It was 145.

-He's very smart,
very manipulative,

and he did what many
serial killers can do.

He convinced the staff of the
hospital that he was cured

and so he was released.

-On his 21st birthday,

December 18, 1969,

Kemper was set free

and his criminal records
as a juvenile were sealed.

In hindsight,
a psychiatric report

conducted after his release
made for shocking reading.

-The report stated, in part,

"Edmund Kemper is no longer
a danger to society."

"He, in fact, is no more
dangerous to society

than the motorcycle
that he rides."

But, tragically,

that was all about to be
proved very wrong.

Living with his mother,

Kemper's rage was once again
welling up inside.

-From the perspective
of people with this,

what I will call
psychopathic rage?

Nothing less than killing,

torture, and mayhem

is sufficient to give
even momentary relief.

-In May 1972,

the dam full of rage
would break.

In just 11 months,
Kemper would callously kill,

disembowel, decapitate,

and perform necrophilia

on eight new victims
across California,

including six beloved coeds.

After serving just 5 years
in a state mental institution

for shooting his grandparents,

he moved to Santa Cruz,
California,

and went to live
with his mother,

near to the university
where she now worked.

With his criminal record
as a juvenile sealed,

Kemper was able to get a job,
in 1971,

with the Department
of Transportation.

But, it ended prematurely.

-Ed Kemper was involved
in an accident

and he received quite a lot
of compensation for that.

It was around about $15,000.

He injured himself quite badly
in this accident,

so, he could no longer
do his work

for the state highway authority.

So you've got a young man, now,
who's got a lot of money.

He's got a lot of time
on his hands.

-Now age 23, Kemper spent
his days drifting, driving,

and picking up young,
female hitchhikers.

In the 1960s and early 1970s,

hitchhiking up and down

the sun-soaked highways
of the Golden State

was a carefree pastime

and an activity

that soon-to-be serial killer
Edmund Kemper thrived upon.

-He starts cruising around.

He starts going up and down
the state highways

and he's essentially
doing trial runs.

He's becoming aware that
he can have access to people.

He has the opportunity
to harm people.

In one year, in 1970,

Kemper would later claim

that he picked up
and then dropped off

as many as 150 young women.

But Kemper's interest
in hitchhikers

would soon take an ominous turn.

-He would drive around
the university

where his mother was working
and pick up coeds

and he describes
this specifically as being done

because those coeds
had a connection,

however ephemeral or symbolic,

with his mother
and her place of work.

-He has a sticker on his car

from the university
where his mother works,

so girls feel that they can
kind of identify with him.

He doesn't look like a monster.

-On May the 7th, 1972,

Kemper's trial runs were over.

On that day, Kemper picked up
two young students in Berkeley,

Mary Ann Pesce
and Anita Mary Luchessa,

both aged 18.

They wanted a ride
to Stanford University,

about 40 miles away.

-Kemper's modus operandi,
his MO,

was pretty straightforward.

He would drive around.

He would look for hitchhikers:

vulnerable, available.

They had to have
the characteristics

which reminded him
of his mother:

desirable.

And then he would
offer them a ride.

-These were coed girls.

These were girls
that were in college.

They had their entire
lives ahead of them.

They were happy.

And, for him, this represented
what he didn't have.

These would often be girls
that would reject him

and he couldn't have
relationships with them,

but he still wanted them,

so this was his way of actually
getting access to these women.

-Kemper drove the two young
women to some secluded woods.

The big, 300-pound man

then got them out of the car

and handcuffed both of them.

Kemper then put one
of the women, still alive,

in the trunk of the car,

while he killed her friend.

-Often, he'll say to them,
"I'm not going to kill you,"

in order to placate them
and make sure

that they don't make a fuss
and try and run away,

and then he does murder them

and then he has sex
with their dead bodies.

-Kemper stabbed,
then suffocated,

each girl, in turn, to death.

He then put the bodies
in the trunk of his Ford Galaxy

and took them home
to the apartment

he now rented,
near to Santa Cruz University.

There, he dismembered the bodies

and gratified himself
with the lifeless corpses.

The horrifying aspect

of Kemper, now,

is that his sexuality
is completely deformed.

He cannot effectively
operate sexually

if the woman is alive.

-The only reason that he's not
raping them before he kills them

is that he doesn't want
to be rejected by them.

When you're having sex
with a dead body,

it's not going to reject you;
it's not going to insult you

or demean you in the same way

that his mother had insulted
or demeaned him.

Kemper then stashed

the body parts in plastic bags

and stored some bits in his home

and others
in the trunk of his car.

-This is something
that's known as partialism.

It's a sexual arousal
through keeping body parts

and, I think, for Kemper,

this is his way of staying
close to his victims,

of owning them
and possessing them

and literally carrying
a part of them with him.

-Kemper would later dump
the violated body parts

in the Santa Cruz Mountains,
near Berkeley.

-A couple that were out,
hiking and walking their dog,

came across these heads.

Subsequently, we identified

Mary Ann Pesce
and Anita Luchessa

and we find out that these two
young women were hitchhiking.

Unbeknownst to us,

those were the first two victims
of Edmund Emil Kemper.

-Four months later,
in September 1972,

Kemper killed again.

This time, his victim was
a 15-year-old girl:

Aiko Koo.

-This one really hurt me.

This was really --

This was really, um,

a difficult victim for me.

Aiko Koo was this young,
Korean American girl

who lived with his mother,
who worked in the library

at the University of California
at Berkeley.

Her mother was dedicated
to this young girl.

She was a single mom,
raising this kid.

She was learning how
to dance and take ballet

and her mom made her costumes.

On the 14th of September,

Aiko was heading
to her ballet class

in San Francisco, 25 miles away.

Usually, she would take the bus,
but, on this day,

the conscientious student
was behind schedule.

-She was at a bus stop
and she missed the bus.

She didn't want to be late
for the dance class.

She was so anxious about that,
and so frustrated,

so, she started
to look for rides

and Edmund Kemper
was cruising the area,

looking for victims.

And pulled over.

He drove across the Bay Bridge
to San Francisco

but just kept driving,

and this young girl knows, now,
she is driving

through San Francisco,
not where she wants to go.

He gets to Highway 1
and is now traveling south,

towards Santa Cruz,

and she is just
panicked and crying

and wants to be let out.

And he makes a turn
on a country road.

She has a chance here.

He pulls into a field
on the edge of a forest.

He's gonna kill her.

He gets out of the car

to get a weapon
out of the trunk, a knife.

She locks the door.

She locks him out of the car,

but she doesn't know how
to start the car,

let alone drive the car.

-Kemper turned on
his fatal charm

to try and convince the girl
that he meant her no harm.

-As he explained to us later,

he spent over an hour
coaxing her,

encouraging her,

to unlock the car
and let him in.

As I recall,
it was things like,

"I'm sorry.

I'll let you go.

Let me in.

I won't harm you."

And she let him in.

And she was killed.

-Kemper strangled,
then raped and murdered her.

He took the lifeless body back
to his apartment,

where, as he later detailed,

he cut up the body
and had sex with the corpse.

-Women were a source of rage.

They became a focus
of his sexuality.

It evolved around death,
rather than around life.

He didn't want to celebrate
a relationship with a woman.

He wanted to humiliate
and to destroy a woman.

-But one crucial
characteristic of Kemper,

something he has in line
with many lust killers, is

there are times when the level

of rage, hatred,
and intensity in him

is truly beyond control.

-Kemper's unrelenting rage
and violence now knew no bounds.

In the next few months,

his killing spree
would pick up apace,

and Kemper would callously kill,

decimate, and defile the bodies

of five more women.

-He engaged in necrophilia.

He engaged in sexual acts

with the dismembered
parts of the body.

-Kemper eviscerated some
of his victims.

Evisceration is simply
the process

of removing organs
from the body.

Opening up the body cavity

and seeing that organs
were missing

would be immediately apparent

and obviously
very worrying.

-Making matters worse,
at the time,

local detectives had little idea
of what they were dealing with.

-What we did not know
at the time was,

during the time period

of late '71 through
the beginning of '73,

two serial killers
were operating

in the same place,
at the same time.

Herbert William Mullin
killed 13,

so, it was confusing to us.

In the beginning,
our thinking was,

"They had to be connected.
This is unusual."

But the evidence
did not connect them.

-With the Zodiac Killer
also on the loose

and thought to have
murdered seven people

in Northern California in 1969,

and Charles Manson on trial
in Southern California in 1970,

the citizens of the state
were in tumult.

-We had two stores
in our community

and they were selling out
of guns and ammunition.

In January 1973,

Kemper struck again.

His prey was 19-year-old
Cindy Schall.

For her family, the pain
they felt is still hard to bear.

Her brother Forrest recalls

those harrowing first few days
after she vanished.

-It was very scary
'cause, you know,

we didn't know if she'd run away
or had been, you know, abducted.

It's the middle of the winter
and very depressing

and, you know, you just
start thinking of things.

-Cindy was a dedicated student

and worked hard
to help support herself.

-She took a job as an au pair
in Santa Cruz, California,

and attended school
during the day

and then would take care
of the children thereafter

and she went to a --

it was a junior college,
called Cabrillo.

It was adjacent to the Cal State
University, Santa Cruz.

Kemper was on the prowl again.

He was on Highway 1, driving
east, away from Santa Cruz.

-She was hitchhiking home
from school.

It was cold
and a car pulled up

and it had a school staff
sticker on the bumper.

From the police reports,
they said that she probably

felt comfortable getting in.

And she was taken
out to a remote area,

where she was shot in the head
with a .22-caliber gun.

And then, we don't know
all the details,

but she was dismembered.

Parts of her body were thrown
into the Pacific Ocean.

Kemper kept her head.

This is hard to speak about,

but it's been almost 50 years,

so, it's a little
easier now.

-At the time,
Kemper was still subject

to regular psychiatric analysis,

a condition of his parole
after serving time

as a juvenile
for killing his grandparents.

-He was having an interview,
a final interview,

with a psychiatrist
in a nearby city.

The psychiatrist,
in his report to the court,

said that Edmund Kemper
was rehabilitated.

The problem with that,

that whole thing?

Cynthia Schall's head

was in a bag in the backseat
of Edmund Kemper's car

at the time of that interview
with the psychiatrist.

-You often see this type
of behavior with serial killers.

They get a kick out of it.

They get bored
with their offending

and they wanna mix things up

and keep it interesting
and have some fun.

-This kind of bizarre,
pseudo-schizophrenic logic is --

is classic
of a level of pathology

we see in very few people
in the world.

-Early in 1973, low on money,

Kemper moved back in
with his mother

and the murders continued.

Just 4 weeks
after his last attack,

on February 5, 1973,

Kemper killed again.

-Rosalind Thorpe and Alice Liu
were our next two victims.

He would later tell us that

he actually shot them
as he drove off of campus.

Stabbing all these victims
to death

was getting to be a lot of work.

It was starting to bother him.

A lot of blood.

He was cleaning everything.

So he went and bought a gun,
purchased a gun,

and, as he was traveling towards
the city of Santa Cruz,

he just turned and shot them.

One was in the backseat;
one was in the front seat.

-Within a week of the latest
two coed murders,

body parts started washing up
on shore in Santa Cruz.

As time went along,

we were finding body parts
on Cowell's Beach.

Other parts were found
down below Monterey,

between Carmel and Big Sur,

and that started
to create huge issues,

as we started
to identify people:

Cynthia Schall, Aiko Koo,

a number of young women.

Clearly, there was
a pattern in the coeds.

Number one, they're young,
student women.

They are stabbed to death.

They are dismembered, common.

All the investigators
starting to focus on,

"Okay, now,
this is one set of crimes,"

and the thread
that weaved between them

was hitchhiking.

-During his 11-month
killing spree,

Kemper was said to frequent
a bar in downtown Santa Cruz

called The Jury Room.

It was here his behavior took
an even more sinister turn.

-It's a bar
across from the courthouse.

A lot of cops hang out there.

A lot of people that work
in the courts hang out there.

Lawyers hung out there.

-By all accounts, personally,
Kemper was a gentle giant.

Even some of the police officers
he had befriended him

described him that way.

-They called him Big Ed,
in a kind of friendly manner,

so he knew that he was coming
across as nonthreatening.

-There's only one occasion that
I remember seeing him there.

He was at the far end
of the bar.

He didn't like push himself
onto anybody, that I saw.

To me, it was almost like
he was listening.

Are any of the detectives there

talking about any
of these murder cases?

Is he getting
any information from us?

Very interesting.

He blended in very well there.

-He was picking their brains.

He was trying to find out
if they knew anything.

I don't fault the cops,
you know.

How the hell would they know?

I've never faulted the police,
by the way.

They did their job.

-But, unbeknownst to Kemper,

in April,
a diligent clerk in Santa Cruz

ran a routine check
on a gun dealer's sales records.

-A records clerk
at the sheriff's office

finds a 3x5 card,

Edmund Emil Kemper,

same as on the dealer record
of sale for the gun.

All the information
is blacked out.

Why?

Because his record
had been sealed!

But she could read through
the blackout, and it said,

"187 PC, Madera, California."

187 PC

is the California penal code
for murder.

Madera County was where
he killed his grandparents

many, many years ago.

She brought that card

to the detective lieutenant
in the bureau and said,

"This gun has already been
delivered to this guy.

I'm not so sure
he's supposed to have it,

but his record is sealed."

-On April 6, 1973,

two detectives went
to question Kemper.

He was not at home.

They were driving away from the
home he shared with his mother

when the killer
finally showed up.

-Kemper drives up and they
watched him get out of the car.

Remember, he's 6'9".

He's huge.
He blocked out the sun.

They identified themselves
and made the inquiry about,

"Did you buy a gun?"

He said, "Yes, I did."

They said, "We don't think
you're supposed

to have this gun,
and we want it."

Now, he later said, "I thought
they knew I was the killer,"

that he was gonna open
the trunk and shoot 'em both.

But, they're very good cops,
good training.

They took his keys.

They wouldn't let him
open the trunk.

They made him move far
to the side.

One of them opened the trunk.

They took the gun,
gave him a receipt,

and they drove away.

-The police had the weapon

that Kemper used
to murder his last two victims.

Kemper knew it would now
only be a matter of time

before the police would
discover his terrible secret.

By the spring of 1973,

serial killer Edmund Kemper

had murdered a total
of eight people in California.

They included
his paternal grandparents,

and six coeds
who'd been hitchhiking

in and around Santa Cruz.

Having just been visited
by the police

over an issue
with a gun license,

Kemper decided to end it all,

with one final
and ferocious act.

-Back in April of 1973,

Kemper starts to get
a little bit skittish

because he's been
visited by the police

and I think this is one
of the things

that brings about
the murder of his mother.

-Ultimately, he believes
that killing his mother

is the only way
to stop killing coeds.

He actually figures out
the connection and decides,

almost like a psychologist,
"I've gotta kill my mom

'cause that's the source
o' all my problems

and, once I kill her,
I won't be a killer anymore."

On April 20, 1973,

Kemper waited for his mother
to return from a party.

-She'd got back.
She was drunk.

She was belligerent.

She went to bed.

Kemper

went to see her.

You know, this...

young man.

We're not talking about
anyone who's old.

This young man, always seeking
his mother's affection.

And she sits up in bed and says,

"I suppose you want
to talk all night now."

And Kemper is so horrified
and upset that, in a way,

perhaps, he just simply
snaps at that moment.

But, interestingly,

he doesn't kill his mother
while she's awake.

He kills her while she's asleep.

-At 4:00 in the morning,
while his mother slept,

he took a hammer,

went to her bed,

and drove the hammer
through her skull

a number of times.

-But he doesn't just kill her.

Of course he doesn't.

He decapitates her.

He uses her head as a dartboard,

throwing darts at it,

shouting at it for an hour.

-Yelling at her, "You're not
gonna yell at me anymore.

You're not gonna yell
at me anymore."

-And then,
he does something that

I know of no other instance
of this in serial crimes.

He cuts open her neck,
takes out her vocal cords.

And, remember,
his mother's vocal cords

were the offending organ

'cause that's how
she demeaned him;

that's how she criticized him.

And he took her vocal cords
and put it down

the garbage disposal.

-He then spent
the rest of the day,

into the afternoon,
cutting her into pieces,

washing her completely clean
in the bathtub,

and hiding her body parts
in the back of her closet.

-But killing
his 52-year-old mother

was not to be the end
of his cruel crimes.

-It was as if this was

the only and inevitable ending
of his entire life

and, yet, there was a sting
in the tail, a twist,

because, not only does he keep
his mother's body in a cupboard,

and the head,

but he invites her best friend

round for supper
the next night.

-Kemper asked 59-year-old
Sara Taylor Hallett

to come over to the house
at 5:00 p.m.

-Mrs. Hallett walks
in the door.

He pretends
to take her coat off,

but just pushes it down over
her arms, so she can't move,

...bludgeons her
to death with his fists,

stuffs her in the front closet.

His car is already packed

and off he goes.

Until he gets
to Pueblo, Colorado.

-After Kemper has killed his
mother and his mother's friend,

he goes on the run
for around about 4 days.

He takes the car that belonged
to his mother's friend.

-He decides he's going
to make a getaway.

He knew the cops
would be on his tail

and he planned to shoot it out
when they tried to stop him.

-Kemper drove for 3 days,

finally stopping
in Pueblo, Colorado.

On April the 23rd,

he went to a phone booth
and made an astounding call.

-He dials the Santa Cruz
Police Department.

It's a busy Friday night
in Santa Cruz.

Kemper calls.

Officer says,
"Santa Cruz Police Department.

Can I help you?"

"I need to talk
to Lieutenant Sheer."

"He doesn't work
on the weekends.

You'll have to call back
on Monday.

I gotta put you on hold."

Kemper hangs up.

He gets upset.
He hangs up.

He calls back
and he finally says,

"Hey! I got information
about all those dead girls!"

Now we're payin' attention.

The officer's puttin'
everything else on hold

and does a great job.

-It's not a rarity.

Oftentimes, serial killers
are not the kind

that they're gonna
go down fighting.

Oftentimes, we see that.
They give themselves up

or, once they're caught
and they know

that they're not gonna get out,
then they give it all up.

It's almost like
they want the notoriety.

-The local police arrive
to arrest the man

who had just confessed to being
the notorious Coed Killer.

-Kemper takes up
the entire phone booth.

They get him into custody,
put a hold on him,

and the story now starts
to get filled in and unraveled.

We sent the district attorney;

the district attorney
investigator;

and my partner,
Detective Aluffi.

They flew to Colorado,
rented a station wagon,

and the four of them

took three days
to drive back to California.

They started out by saying,
"Ed, can you tell us

how all this started?"

And he sat there,
like I am sitting here,

and he said, "On such and such
a date and such and such a time,

I was in Berkeley, California."

Kemper. connects. every. dot

to every. single. case.

He was so precise, we were able
to link the evidence

to his statements,
to the crime scenes.

-According to some analysts,
after killing his mother,

Kemper had lost
his murderous purpose.

-He said later,

"I started feeling the folly
of the whole damn thing."

But he said, and, I think,
more tellingly,

"The original purpose was gone."

And that was, of course,
Clarnell.

-Given how dysfunctional

Kemper's relationship
with his mother was,

I think that perhaps,
had it been different,

then Ed Kemper maybe
wouldn't have gone on

to kill all of the people
that he did.

So I think that Kemper's mother,

she started writing the story
of the serial killer,

but Kemper finished that.

-On May 7, 1973,

for the eight murders
he had confessed to.

His trial began 5 months later,
on October the 23rd that year.

But, there was a twist
in the case.

-Edmund Kemper pleaded
not guilty.

He had a great law team.

They hired one of the best
forensic psychiatrists

in California,
if not the United States.

I gotta say,
they put on a great defense.

-He's all too aware
that, actually,

life in a state mental hospital

is more favorable
than life in prison,

so he's making quite
the calculated decision here

to plead insanity,

but he wasn't fooling anyone
at this point in time.

-It's not our first rodeo.

I've been to court
a thousand times.

You know what's coming.

You know how a case
is gonna be attacked.

On the prosecution side,

we just keep putting the
evidence in front of the jury,

how it connects
to Edmund Kemper.

It came down to, really,
his state of mind.

-After just 5 hours
of deliberation,

on November 8, 1973,

the jury declared
Edmund Kemper sane

and found him guilty
of first-degree murder

on all eight counts.

He was given 7 years to life
on each count

and the terms are being
served concurrently.

Edmund Kemper is

still in prison, as we speak.

-He's where he's
supposed to be,

and society's better off
for that

and, um,
I hope he never gets out.

It didn't give me closure.

I'm not sure
if it gave me peace.

You can cut this out, but,
I could write a letter to him

right now, saying,
"Dear Ed you."

-Do I think Kemper
is an evil man?

The answer has to be yes.

When I think of Aiko Koo,

when I think of

his mother,

no matter how he
appeared outwardly...

...he is the definition

of violence and evil.

You pray nobody else is
out there like that again.

-Edmund Kemper is destined
to die in prison.

The senseless slaughter
and unmitigated violence he used

to kill 10 people --

his grandparents, six coeds,

his mother, and her friend --

makes Edmund Kemper one of the
world's most evil killers.