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- MAN: Oh my god, that's it, that's it.
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Okay, so I'm gonna turn the camera around.
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Ready?
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There you go. There you go, kids.
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- MALE NARRATOR: Once, it was just a quaint home
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in a quiet town.
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- This house would be one of the most desirable places to live
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in all of Amityville.
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- NARRATOR: But then, everything changed.
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- Six people were just slaughtered in their sleep.
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- Mother and father and four children.
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- It was very, very frightening.
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- NARRATOR: And that was just the beginning.
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- And he said, "The devil made me do it."
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- You've got the flies around the window.
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You have the slime oozing from the walls.
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Black substances that are coming up in the sinks and the toilets.
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- It's like a page from a Stephen King novel.
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- NARRATOR: Nearly five decades later,
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America's greatest ghost story is back in the headlines.
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- Breaking news in the true crime and horror community.
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- The Amityville Horror killer died in prison at the age of 69.
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- NARRATOR: Fueling a new generation to decipher
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what really happened at 112 Ocean Avenue.
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- You have the true crime. You have the paranormal.
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You have the mystery.
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- What is it that caused this? How did we get here?
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- NARRATOR: This is "Famously Haunted: Amityville."
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- I'm Beckie-Anne Galentine.
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I'm a mortician during the day and a ghost hunter at night.
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On social media, I am known as the girl
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that goes to the spooky locations.
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Paranormal, haunted locations, haunted overnights,
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and just testing the limits of how far I can go with it.
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I actually have the top post on TikTok for Amityville.
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You know that saying, if your friends jumped off a bridge,
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would you do it?
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Well, my TikTok followers told me
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to go the Amityville Horror house
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where six people were murdered in 1974, and I did.
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- NARRATOR: But the town of Amityville doesn't make finding
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the iconic house easy.
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- BECKIE-ANN: So, when I looked it up on Google Maps,
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it is blurred out.
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Not only is that house blurred out,
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but several neighboring houses are.
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They really don't want you to figure out what's going on here.
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- When you arrive outside the house now,
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the trademark windows have been removed.
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They've done all they can to try to make it blend in
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and not look like the Amityville house.
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- "Meeting" the house for the first time
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is like meeting a celebrity.
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You feel like you've seen it.
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It's a familiar face.
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You feel, like, this pit in your stomach, like this is the house.
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This is the cover from the movie.
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This is the cover from the book.
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This is the house that I saw
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in a newspaper clipping from the '70s.
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- NARRATOR: But this house holds terrible secrets.
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- You have the true crime. You have the paranormal.
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You have the mystery surrounding why it happened,
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because nobody still knows.
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There's so many questions still surrounding this case.
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- That's the fascinating part about all of this.
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The mystery just lives on. What happened?
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- NARRATOR: One thing that's certain
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is where the story begins.
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The year is 1974, and the town is Amityville, New York.
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- So this house with the flags is the house that I grew up in.
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- NARRATOR: Back then, Geralyn Bozza
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lives just a few doors down
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from the infamous Amityville Horror house.
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At that time, it's only known as the home of the DeFeo family.
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- We were friendly with the DeFeo family because there was
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a connection between my parents,
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being that we were all from Brooklyn.
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- RIC: You had the father, Big Ronnie.
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The mother, Louise.
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Then you had Dawn DeFeo, Allison DeFeo,
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Marc DeFeo, and John Matthew.
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Then you had the oldest child, Ronnie Jr.
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His friends called him Butch.
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- NARRATOR: The large Italian family
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moves to the picturesque town from Brooklyn nine years earlier
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and hangs the sign "High Hopes" to symbolize their new start.
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- The DeFeos, compared to the people in Amityville,
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especially the more upscale neighbors,
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were a little rough around the edges.
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Some might call them uncouth, because--
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and I'm half Italian myself--
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Italians are loud, boisterous.
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Big Ronnie, as they called him,
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was sort of like Archie Bunker on steroids.
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He would yell at his wife.
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There was one story that she was coming upstairs
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with the laundry basket and he knocked her down the stairs.
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- NARRATOR: Some believe it was Big Ronnie's resentment of
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the Amityville house that triggered his blind rage.
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- The house was purchased by Louise Brigante DeFeo's father,
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Michael Brigante Sr.
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Her father just absolutely adored her.
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Big Ronnie, who was working for his father-in-law,
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and was dependent upon his father-in-law for the mortgage,
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I think there was probably that in-law friction.
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- RIC: On the surface,
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they looked like a successful family.
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But as you peel back the layers, you find that the systemic abuse
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from the father was so severe.
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- NARRATOR: But Big Ronnie's most volatile relationship
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is with his eldest son.
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- MARVIN: Ronnie DeFeo, also known as Butch,
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was a troubled young man.
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At the age of 17, he was into heroin, LSD.
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He drank. He was expelled from school.
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His parents sent him to a psychiatrist.
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It still didn't help.
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He was troubled. He was volatile.
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- LAURA: As far as Ronnie Sr.
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and Butch, his son, went,
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they had a very contentious relationship.
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And that bothered the younger DeFeo siblings.
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- Certainly the DeFeos were a dysfunctional family.
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The situation between Big Ronnie and Little Ronnie's
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just worsening and worsening over time.
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- Sometimes this would end up as real fisticuffs, bloodletting.
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- One time, Ronnie Sr. thought Butch was talking back.
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So he grabbed his son and continued to beat on him
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until he was bloody.
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Of course, everyone's yelling at the father to stop.
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- ALEXANDRA: So, there's a lot of psychological things
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going on with that family.
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A lot of negative, uh, things happening with them,
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which invokes negativity.
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You just can't see it, but it's there.
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- NARRATOR: Then, on November 13, 1974,
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the evil within the DeFeo family home spills into the public eye.
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- The policeman was coming out the front door.
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And I said, "Excuse me, is there something wrong?
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My mother sent me down."
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He said, "You need to go get your mother right now."
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I--
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[sobs] "They're all dead."
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So I ran down the street.
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It was terrible.
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It was terrible.
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- It's crazy, but we are here.
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It's behind me. It's crazy.
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Like, isn't it insane? [laughs]
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- NARRATOR: It's 6:30 PM in Amityville, New York
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on the night of November 13, 1974.
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And what happens in this house
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is about to change the town forever.
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- LAURA: Ronnie DeFeo Jr. went down to Henry's Bar
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and burst into the bar and says, help, help!
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You know, somebody's-- something's wrong.
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Somebody's killed my family.
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- TIM: It didn't take long for an officer to respond.
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There was actually an officer right down the street.
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And as soon as he arrived,
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the neighbors were all looking out their windows,
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wondering what's going on.
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- NARRATOR: Inside this beautiful waterfront home,
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police comb through a horrific crime scene.
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Ronald DeFeo Sr.
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His wife, Louise.
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Teenage daughters Dawn and Allison.
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And sons Marc and John Mathew.
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All shot and killed in their beds.
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- Allison and Dawn's shootings
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were particularly gory and gruesome.
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Not only were they young women,
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they were shot in the head so the wounds were big.
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And that went through to the walls.
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- Investigators do believe that John Matthew,
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who was the youngest at nine, did live a little bit longer
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after the gunshot.
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They believed he was paralyzed, but he was--of course,
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pronounced dead at the scene, the whole family was.
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- Six people died.
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And this was something--this was a crime that was unheard of.
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- NARRATOR: Only 23-year-old Ronnie "Butch" DeFeo survives.
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- Ronnie Defeo Jr. claimed that
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he hadn't been home when this all went on.
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He came home at about 6:30 on November 13.
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Found his family all murdered in their beds.
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Someone went through there
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and systematically killed each and every one of them
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in a most brutal fashion.
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I can't imagine what it must've been like
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to be one of those neighbors in this small community
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and then to watch as
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law enforcement is just converging on this house.
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Uh, the media starts showing up. Flashbulbs going off.
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Everybody angling to see what's going on.
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And then suddenly a silence falls over the crowd
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as the body bags start being pulled from the house.
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And you can see in the archived photos
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that some of those body bags were very small
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because they contained very small children.
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- GERALYN: Remember, Amityville was the type of place
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where you didn't lock your doors.
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So, you went from a very passive place to live
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to a how could that happen.
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I mean, it was just so huge.
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I mean...a child--children. Why?
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Being that we were friendly with the DeFeo family,
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I can remember being afraid
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that whoever killed them was coming for us next.
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I can remember sleeping with my sister, I think,
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for over a year.
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- Who would wanna kill this family of six people,
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a mother and father, and four children?
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It was sensational news.
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It really tweaked the imagination and the horror
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and--and the sadness of everyone who lived in the area.
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- NARRATOR: But as police investigate
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the grisly crime scene,
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the search for answers only leads to more questions.
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- PATRICIA: There were no shell casings left behind.
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And it seemed that nobody was awake or heard, which is, again,
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a big part of the mystery. Why didn't anybody wake up?
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Why did the neighbors not hear any of this stuff?
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- One teenager in the neighborhood,
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he was awakened by the sound
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of the DeFeos' old English sheepdog, Shaggy,
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barking at about 3:00, 3:15 in the morning.
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But why had nobody heard any shots?
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- To not hear a gun go off
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six times of that caliber
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when you were that close to this house
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is--is not believable at all.
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I do not understand how that happened.
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You could stand in their--their front doorway
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and throw a rock at their neighbor's house
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and hit it through their window.
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- NARRATOR: Meanwhile, the crowd of onlookers grows
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outside the stately colonial.
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- I think they were just very sweet, very religious people,
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very family minded people.
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- Have you ruled out robbery as a motive?
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- We have ruled out no motive because we have no idea what
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the motive is at this time.
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- Amityville is a small, quiet community.
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And any type of disruption like this is going to get
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a lookie-loo standing outside the house.
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- One of the basic ironies about the DeFeos moving
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from an apartment in Brooklyn to upscale Amityville
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is it was supposed to symbolize upward mobility,
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better times for the family.
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They have the sign out there.
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Named their home "High Hopes."
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And that all came crashing down.
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- TIM: The rumors are gonna start flying pretty quickly.
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And one of the rumors that really took hold was this
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could have been a mob hit of some kind.
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- RIC: The DeFeo family had connections to organized crime
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on both sides, maternal and paternal.
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So, the Colombo and Genovese families were connected, uh,
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to the DeFeos.
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- TIM: Louise DeFeo was part of the Brigante family,
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that they were associated with the mafia in New York City.
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- LAURA: Ronnie DeFeo Sr.,
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he was working for his father-in-law,
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Michael Brigante Sr., at the Buick dealership.
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- RIC: The car dealership was a front for the mob.
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Things happened there such as low-level crime,
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like chopping cars, all the way up to money laundering.
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Big Ronnie Sr. was responsible for keeping tabs of the ledgers
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for the family business, if you will.
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The true ledgers.
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- LAURA: There were rumors that Big Ronnie,
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that he was somehow skimming off the top
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at the Buick dealership.
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You look in the '70s, all the New York newspapers
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were filled with mob killings.
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The type of things that were ripped out of "The Godfather."
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- You know, was it a mob hit? I don't know.
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- [bell ringing]
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- NARRATOR: But not everyone's convinced
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the mob is responsible.
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- MARVIN: There had been an unwritten law within
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the families of not attacking children.
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So that made it a little bizarre
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the thought that it might have been a mob hit.
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- TIM: For Amityville, it's not a place where a lot of crime
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was happening in those days.
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They probably had, you know, two police officers and a stop sign.
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They had to call in outside police from Suffolk County
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in order to help assist in this investigation because
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if you've never even processed one murder, let alone six,
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how are you gonna be able to handle something
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of this magnitude on your own?
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- Ronald is being safeguarded
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by the Suffolk County Police at this time.
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- Why safeguarded? - Why?
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Because there's six members of the family dead
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and we don't know why.
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And he's the sole remaining member.
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- TIM: When you consider that an entire family was taken out,
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it only becomes logical to think
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that the surviving member might be a target.
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So, Ronnie was taken into protective custody just in case
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it was a mob hit and that he might still be in danger.
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- NARRATOR: When police question 23-year-old Butch DeFeo,
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he echoes the mob theory.
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- MARVIN: As police question him,
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he suggested that his parents and his four siblings
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were victims of a mob hitman.
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- LAURA: He tried to claim that the infamous mobster Lou Fellini
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did it, but he had an airtight alibi.
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He wasn't even in the state at the time.
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So, cross that one off the list.
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- NARRATOR: Investigators are beginning to believe
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the real suspect is staring them right in the face.
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- Everyone pointing,
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could it have been the only surviving son?
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- LAURA: But what was the motive?
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Why did he want to do this?
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What the detectives seemed to come to terms with
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as for a motive was money.
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- NARRATOR: They soon discover Big Ronnie had a $200,000
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life insurance policy.
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- Besides this, there were talks about parents having
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100,000 or $200,000 in cash in the house.
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- NARRATOR: The kind of money Butch could use
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to make a new life for himself
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far away from the reputation he'd built in Amityville.
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- Ronnie, he was a difficult kid growing up.
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I think he got into a lot of bad things,
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a lot of bad circles.
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- To kind of deal with him being kicked out of school,
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they offer him a job at the dealership in the family.
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And he started working as a mechanic there.
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- He had a job as a gofer.
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He was an errand boy for his grandfather.
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So he made some money,
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plus his father would give him an allowance,
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sometimes several hundred dollars a week.
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He had a stereo system. He had guns in the house.
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He had a car. He had a boat.
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He had a lot of spending money.
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And yet that wasn't enough for Butch.
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- NARRATOR: Armed with this information,
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investigators sit down with DeFeo again.
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This time, the surviving son completely changes his story.
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- Under intense questioning,
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Ron finally confessed to the killings.
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And he said, quote, "Once it started, I couldn't stop.
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It was that fast."
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- Ronnie was trying to say, oh, his memory was foggy.
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He didn't remember anything.
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But he told them, well, I dumped the rifle here.
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I dumped my bloody clothes down the sewer drain.
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That all turned out to be true,
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because they found it exactly where he said he put it.
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- TIM: Now the investigation turns its focus solely on him.
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Ronnie is arrested for the murders.
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- You couldn't think that Butch would've done that.
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I guess it was an explosion
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of whatever was going on in his mind.
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I don't know what happened.
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- LAURA: He had acknowledged that he had taken drugs,
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had alcohol that night.
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- NARRATOR: And the more investigators learn about
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the DeFeo family dynamics,
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the more they believe Ronnie was searching for his escape.
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- LAURA: He wanted to be an alpha male.
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He would fight with his brothers and sisters.
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He had to share a bathroom with the brothers.
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And he was saying his two brothers were little pigs
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because they didn't clean up after themselves.
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He didn't like his sisters' choice in music.
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So there was tension building in the house.
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- NARRATOR: Many believe it's this tension that led Butch
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to finally snap.
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- BECKIE-ANN: The night of the murders,
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it was 3:15 in the morning.
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And Butch was sitting in the basement.
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And he had gone upstairs.
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He used two shots to kill each of his parents.
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And then he killed all of his siblings.
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- NARRATOR: One year later,
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Ronnie DeFeo's six-count murder trial
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begins on October 14, 1975.
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At first, he admits to the killings.
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- WILLIAM: The closest Ronnie ever, uh,
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explained as to why he did it, is because at that time,
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he felt that they were conspiring against him.
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- NARRATOR: But then, an even more terrifying story emerges.
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- MARVIN: It came out that Ronnie heard voices
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telling him to kill.
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There was a--a shadowy figure following him through the house.
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He said it was the devil in the house
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that was at the root of the murders.
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- LAURA: Ronnie Jr. was fueled by drugs.
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And a lot of people who are involved in the paranormal
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will tell you that in itself can be a deadly combination.
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Once you start taking drugs, alcohol,
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and you've got a sort of demented personality that can
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then go full blown into opening the doors for...
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demonic possession.
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- Ronnie was taken over by the spirit
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that had him do these horrible things.
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Something, someone is taking over him and his body.
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- PATRICIA: A part of me wants to believe that there is
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some sort of entity telling somebody to do these things,
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whether you call that evil or whatever you call it,
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because we don't wanna believe that somebody's capable of
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doing this to their whole family.
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- NARRATOR: Soon, Butch's lawyer embraces his client's claims.
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- LAURA: William Weber comes up with what was very unusual
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and certainly very rare at the time:
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the devil made me do it defense.
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- NARRATOR: In other words, William Weber claims his client
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is legally insane.
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- Whenever I have a client who tells me something
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that doesn't register as normal or sane,
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um, one of the things I have to ask myself is,
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is this person competent to aid in their own defense?
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So the first thing you would wanna do--
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or I would do, anyway--
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is I would have my client evaluated by
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a good expert.
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- NARRATOR: Weber consults a psychiatrist to examine DeFeo.
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He testifies Butch does in fact believe he heard voices
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telling him to shoot his family.
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- DANIEL: On the defense side,
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you're trying to convince the jury that the person is insane
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at the time of the crimes
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and did not have control of themselves.
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Weber, in direct examination of his client,
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shows a picture of his deceased mother
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lying there on the bed surrounded by blood and says,
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hey, is this--is this your mom?
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And DeFeo says, I've never seen that person in my life.
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Weber repeats this with a picture of his father.
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He denies knowing who that was.
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From the prosecution's side, you show that whatever mental defect
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the person is suffering from, it's not significant enough
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to excuse the behavior.
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He clearly thought out what he was doing shortly
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after committing these murders.
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He collected the shell casings, the rifle.
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And then he disposed of them in the sewer system.
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- NARRATOR: The trial lasts over a month.
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But after just two days of deliberations,
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the jury rejects DeFeo's devil defense.
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- TIM: The evidence all pointed to the fact that Ronnie DeFeo
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killed his family.
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The guy who is not only guilty of this,
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but is trying to weasel his way out of being convicted for it.
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And it's no surprise that they found him guilty.
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- NARRATOR: DeFeo is given six consecutive sentences
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of 25 years to life.
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Two weeks after Butch's conviction,
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he begins his sentence in New York State's
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Sullivan Correctional Facility.
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- People thought that once Ronnie DeFeo was convicted
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of those murders, the story would end.
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They had no idea that that was only the actual beginning
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of the Amityville case.
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- BRYAN: The sheer evil that would have to be present for
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a family member to kill six other family members,
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it's unthinkable.
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That could only be precipitated by evil.
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- It has been debated many times on whether or not
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this Amityville home is actually haunted.
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- Many people believe that the spirits in this house
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possessed him to do it.
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- The strange thing is, all members of the family that
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had been shot were found lying face down in their beds.
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- MARVIN: I believe there still remain unanswered questions
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about the murders and what really happened in that house
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the night he killed his entire family.
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Was there a shadowy force telling him to kill?
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- PATRICIA: People are going to side one way or the other
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whether or not this is one of the most intense cases of
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demonic possession or if this is simply a person disturbed.
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I think what initially happened in the house with the DeFeos
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sparked some sort of...
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presence that lingered in the house.
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- NARRATOR: A presence that will
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drive the next family to move in crazy.
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- Y'all have probably heard of "Amityville Horror."
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Did you know that it's a real case,
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and this house right here is said to be one
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of the most evil locations on earth?
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- NARRATOR: Just weeks after Ronnie "Butch" DeFeo
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is given six life sentences for murdering his entire family
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inside their Amityville home,
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a new family takes interest in the house.
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- I described the house as "charming" the first time
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I saw it, 'cuz it's what I thought of it.
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- NARRATOR: 30-year-old Kathy Lutz
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and her 29-year-old husband, George,
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have no idea of the brutal murders that happened here
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when they arrive 112 Ocean Avenue...
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nor DeFeo's defense that demons made him do it.
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- GEORGE: [unintelligible] saying,
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"Kathy, do you believe this?"
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And she said, "No, I don't believe this."
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- NARRATOR: They're just looking for a fresh start
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for their blended family:
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five-year-old Missy, seven-year-old Chris,
509
00:27:48,530 --> 00:27:51,570
and 10-year-old Daniel.
510
00:27:51,570 --> 00:27:52,900
- TIM: They were looking for a place
511
00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:54,670
that was bigger for their family now,
512
00:27:54,670 --> 00:27:56,770
but also George could run his business from.
513
00:27:56,770 --> 00:27:59,370
And this house was perfect for that.
514
00:27:59,380 --> 00:28:01,880
Not only did it have all the space that they needed,
515
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,250
but it had a boathouse for George's boat.
516
00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:06,390
It had storage space for his motorcycles.
517
00:28:08,820 --> 00:28:11,060
- BECKIE-ANNE: When they come into this home, they're, like,
518
00:28:11,060 --> 00:28:12,460
blown away by its beauty.
519
00:28:12,460 --> 00:28:14,130
And they know there has to be a catch.
520
00:28:14,130 --> 00:28:16,730
This is when the person showing the house says, you know,
521
00:28:16,730 --> 00:28:20,200
this is the one where the murders had occurred.
522
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,670
And it wasn't a deal-breaker for them.
523
00:28:23,670 --> 00:28:25,710
- TIM: They decided that getting a property like this
524
00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:28,900
for the bargain price at the time of $80,000
525
00:28:28,910 --> 00:28:31,780
was just something they couldn't pass up.
526
00:28:31,780 --> 00:28:35,680
- NARRATOR: The Lutzes even pay an extra $400 for the remainder
527
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,550
of the DeFeos' abandoned furniture.
528
00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:39,950
- LAURA: A lot of people don't realize this,
529
00:28:39,950 --> 00:28:42,290
when the police finished with the crime scene
530
00:28:42,290 --> 00:28:48,030
after the murders, there was still a lot of physical residue.
531
00:28:48,030 --> 00:28:52,170
Spots of blood on the-- the walls, brain matter,
532
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,960
holes in the wall with the bullets.
533
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,800
In fact, the ammunition that Butch had,
534
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,870
there were boxes of it up in his closet that the Lutz boys found
535
00:29:00,870 --> 00:29:02,040
and were playing with.
536
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,610
- [bell ringing]
537
00:29:03,610 --> 00:29:06,650
- NARRATOR: But some believe the DeFeos' discarded things present
538
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,180
unforeseen evils for their new owners.
539
00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:11,780
- If an inanimate object
540
00:29:11,780 --> 00:29:15,720
happened to be in close proximity to a traumatic event
541
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,420
that was the catalyst for the evil
542
00:29:20,420 --> 00:29:23,920
in the case of a murder like what happened there,
543
00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:28,230
then it stands to reason that any object that was in the house
544
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:30,530
at the time that the murders took place could have absorbed
545
00:29:30,530 --> 00:29:33,670
that same energy.
546
00:29:33,670 --> 00:29:35,040
- BECKIE-ANNE: I know personally,
547
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,440
I wouldn't have bought any of that furniture,
548
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,840
especially the beds.
549
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,120
When something happens like that,
550
00:29:42,110 --> 00:29:46,380
I don't see any reason why someone would wanna, you know,
551
00:29:46,380 --> 00:29:48,150
continue to linger and use those beds,
552
00:29:48,150 --> 00:29:50,490
especially for their children.
553
00:29:50,490 --> 00:29:52,530
- PATRICIA: They didn't get rid of anything.
554
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,760
And that's not to put blame on them at all.
555
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,700
I mean, yes, I have moved into places
556
00:29:56,690 --> 00:29:58,190
and bought the furniture in there,
557
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,570
but not where somebody was killed brutally in their sleep.
558
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:07,440
- NARRATOR: Given the home's bloody
559
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,180
and potentially demonic past,
560
00:30:10,170 --> 00:30:13,840
Kathy Lutz decides to have a priest bless the house
561
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,780
just in case.
562
00:30:16,780 --> 00:30:18,350
- BRYAN: A blessing would have been
563
00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:20,320
a appropriate course of action.
564
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,790
Even somebody that is non-practicing,
565
00:30:22,790 --> 00:30:24,430
if they grew up with the Catholic faith,
566
00:30:24,420 --> 00:30:27,490
there's always going to be some of those old habits within them.
567
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,500
- NARRATOR: But this is no routine blessing.
568
00:30:36,330 --> 00:30:39,770
Four years later, in 1979,
569
00:30:39,770 --> 00:30:44,180
the priest finally reveals what happened in the house that day.
570
00:30:44,180 --> 00:30:46,920
Only if he can remain anonymous.
571
00:30:47,910 --> 00:30:53,420
- I was blessing, um, the sewing room.
572
00:30:53,420 --> 00:30:55,690
It was cold. It was really cold in there.
573
00:30:55,690 --> 00:30:59,030
And I thought, "Gee, this is peculiar."
574
00:30:59,020 --> 00:31:02,460
Because it was a lovely day out and...
575
00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:05,400
I--I was also sprinkling holy water.
576
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,210
And I heard a rather deep voice, uh, behind me saying, "Get out."
577
00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:17,140
- NARRATOR: The startled priest abruptly finishes his blessing
578
00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:19,310
and tells the Lutzes.
579
00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:22,180
- "As long as nobody's sleeping in there, you're fine."
580
00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:24,620
And then he rushed out the door,
581
00:31:24,620 --> 00:31:26,220
which should've been a clue for them.
582
00:31:28,250 --> 00:31:31,320
- NARRATOR: Days later, the priest discovers mysterious
583
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,990
blisters on his hands, like a stigmata.
584
00:31:38,030 --> 00:31:41,870
- BRYAN: It's very common for victims of a malevolent attack,
585
00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:43,870
spiritual attack, or paranormal attack
586
00:31:43,870 --> 00:31:47,310
by some kind of potential demonic entity
587
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:53,110
to experience a mocking of Jesus' life, his reality.
588
00:31:59,650 --> 00:32:01,690
- NARRATOR: Soon, the Lutzes begin encountering
589
00:32:01,690 --> 00:32:05,060
strange events as well.
590
00:32:05,060 --> 00:32:08,600
- Suddenly George was, uh, furiously cold all the time.
591
00:32:09,890 --> 00:32:11,560
No matter what, he couldn't get warm.
592
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,900
And he was constantly building fires
593
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:14,370
even when the rest of the family
594
00:32:14,370 --> 00:32:18,540
was shedding off layers because he had them sweating.
595
00:32:18,540 --> 00:32:23,350
But he had this bone chill that he just couldn't seem to shake.
596
00:32:23,340 --> 00:32:25,010
- PATRICIA: What's fascinating about George's cold chills is
597
00:32:25,010 --> 00:32:27,210
he was the only one experiencing them.
598
00:32:27,210 --> 00:32:28,780
From somebody who's experienced cold chills,
599
00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:31,450
it's hard to describe. But it's a situation where
600
00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:34,050
you feel like somebody brushed past you.
601
00:32:34,050 --> 00:32:36,920
I mean, I'm getting chills just thinking about it.
602
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,990
When you're there and in that moment, you're like,
603
00:32:38,990 --> 00:32:43,190
oh, this is--this is something. There's something here.
604
00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:48,330
- NARRATOR: George's personality changes too.
605
00:32:48,330 --> 00:32:52,570
He suffers unexplained bouts of anger, confusion,
606
00:32:52,570 --> 00:32:55,240
and loss of appetite.
607
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,880
- As the phenomena started to progress and worsen over time,
608
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,420
George really started to notice
609
00:33:00,410 --> 00:33:02,810
that it was affecting him directly,
610
00:33:02,810 --> 00:33:07,820
including waking up every night at about 3:15 AM.
611
00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:09,420
- NARRATOR: Around the time some believe
612
00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:12,860
the DeFeo murders took place.
613
00:33:12,860 --> 00:33:16,730
It's also the time some call the devil's hour.
614
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,200
- Jesus was said to have died on the cross at 3:00 PM.
615
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,300
And so the devil's hour being 3:00 AM
616
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:27,870
is sort of a contrast to that.
617
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,350
- NARRATOR: But it's not just odd behavior
618
00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:36,490
haunting the new residents.
619
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,950
- When the Lutzes first moved into the house, naturally,
620
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:41,150
you know, it has tons of space
621
00:33:41,150 --> 00:33:44,490
and lots of different rooms and areas to be explored.
622
00:33:44,490 --> 00:33:48,190
But there were also some areas they weren't expecting to find.
623
00:33:48,190 --> 00:33:51,990
- NARRATOR: Kathy Lutz discovers one such mysterious space
624
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,600
while moving a bookcase in the basement.
625
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,870
- KATHY: Much to my surprise, there was no wall behind it.
626
00:33:57,870 --> 00:34:00,970
It was the entrance into this small,
627
00:34:00,970 --> 00:34:05,010
brightly painted red room.
628
00:34:05,010 --> 00:34:10,250
And I was really surprised and alarmed by the find.
629
00:34:10,250 --> 00:34:12,450
- NARRATOR: Even the Lutzes' dog, Harry,
630
00:34:12,450 --> 00:34:17,590
won't go near the strange void known as the Red Room.
631
00:34:17,590 --> 00:34:22,090
- Animals can definitely sense when there's something not right
632
00:34:22,090 --> 00:34:24,390
going on in the environment of something malevolent,
633
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,240
of something, you know, dark.
634
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:30,430
And Harry not wanting to go anywhere near the Red Room
635
00:34:30,430 --> 00:34:32,000
is something that
636
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,240
we would expect to find in a legitimate case of demonic,
637
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:37,880
uh, involvement.
638
00:34:41,150 --> 00:34:44,850
- NARRATOR: But Kathy's bizarre encounters don't end there.
639
00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:46,750
She soon begins sensing the murdered
640
00:34:46,750 --> 00:34:49,820
DeFeo family's presence.
641
00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:52,590
- BECKIE-ANNE: Kathy was experiencing dreams of Louise,
642
00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:55,130
Louise's body being exhumed,
643
00:34:55,130 --> 00:34:57,030
the bodies lying on the floor in the same room
644
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:59,070
where the family was placed
645
00:34:59,060 --> 00:35:03,760
before they were taken out by the medical examiners.
646
00:35:03,770 --> 00:35:06,910
And I know that she had continuously had dreams
647
00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:08,440
of her getting shot.
648
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,940
- [gun cocking]
649
00:35:14,380 --> 00:35:19,020
- LAURA: Kathy also said that her aunt, who was a nun,
650
00:35:19,020 --> 00:35:21,860
came into the house to visit one day.
651
00:35:21,850 --> 00:35:27,820
And she left when she became violently ill.
652
00:35:27,830 --> 00:35:31,200
So, a lot of things were piling up.
653
00:35:32,330 --> 00:35:35,630
- NARRATOR: Then, Kathy's five-year-old daughter, Missy,
654
00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:39,270
begins experiencing her own phenomena.
655
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:42,670
She claims to see the face of a red-eyed pig
656
00:35:42,670 --> 00:35:47,410
in her bedroom window and names it Jody.
657
00:35:47,410 --> 00:35:49,550
- If there was a demon in the Amityville house,
658
00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:52,450
it's very likely that that was what was manifesting
659
00:35:52,450 --> 00:35:56,720
as Jody the red-eyed pig, and was appearing before Missy.
660
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,260
It would be trying to gain her trust because
661
00:35:59,260 --> 00:36:03,430
the more it has attention, the more power it will gain.
662
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:07,230
- BRYAN: Children do see demonic entities first,
663
00:36:07,230 --> 00:36:11,070
before the adults are directly affected.
664
00:36:11,070 --> 00:36:13,910
Children tend to be more sensitive and more willing
665
00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:16,740
to experience it.
666
00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:20,310
It would not be outside of the realm of possibility that some
667
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:24,280
malevolent force would seek out a child first because the child
668
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,320
would be more likely to see and interact with them.
669
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,890
- I think if I had seen a pig face in the window,
670
00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:34,660
I would have run for the hills, absolutely.
671
00:36:34,660 --> 00:36:37,260
I'm out of there.
672
00:36:37,260 --> 00:36:39,130
- NARRATOR: But no one outside the home
673
00:36:39,130 --> 00:36:42,630
has any idea what's happening.
674
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:45,970
- GERALYN: I was in high school when they were in the house.
675
00:36:45,970 --> 00:36:47,610
And I used to walk back and forth
676
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,910
to the high school every day, you know, five days a week.
677
00:36:52,910 --> 00:36:55,180
And I can't say I ever saw anything.
678
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:58,750
- TIM: As the phenomena worsens, you know,
679
00:36:58,750 --> 00:37:00,590
the Lutz family's trying to tough it out,
680
00:37:00,580 --> 00:37:01,780
and who can blame them?
681
00:37:01,790 --> 00:37:03,460
You finally got your dream house.
682
00:37:03,450 --> 00:37:05,220
What's a few ghosts?
683
00:37:05,220 --> 00:37:07,360
- NARRATOR: But when the Lutzes try to take matters
684
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,970
into their own hands, it awakens an even darker force.
685
00:37:14,970 --> 00:37:16,370
- Hey, everyone.
686
00:37:16,370 --> 00:37:18,440
Um, so I'm an Instacart shopper on Long Island.
687
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,980
And I am often in the town of Amityville,
688
00:37:23,970 --> 00:37:28,110
which is where the DeFeo family murders happened.
689
00:37:28,110 --> 00:37:30,250
I view this house as, like,
690
00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:32,790
one would view the Empire State Building.
691
00:37:32,780 --> 00:37:35,850
Um, I just think it's a national landmark.
692
00:37:35,850 --> 00:37:38,790
There it is, y'all. This is Ocean Avenue.
693
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:42,430
Right there, Amityville Horror house.
694
00:37:42,430 --> 00:37:43,560
It's beautiful.
695
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:52,870
- NARRATOR: Within a week after
696
00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:55,370
moving into their Amityville dream home,
697
00:37:55,370 --> 00:37:57,870
the Lutz family begins facing a series of
698
00:37:57,870 --> 00:38:01,980
terrifying and unexplained phenomena.
699
00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:05,520
- STEPHANIE: The spectral pig with the glowing eyes,
700
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,960
disembodied voices, cold spots in the home,
701
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:12,490
I've never heard of anything like this.
702
00:38:12,490 --> 00:38:14,990
- NARRATOR: Soon, the Lutzes begin to wonder if the house
703
00:38:14,990 --> 00:38:19,160
is haunted by the DeFeo murders after all.
704
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,760
- For somebody to be sleeping on the same beds
705
00:38:22,770 --> 00:38:24,310
and be in that same house
706
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:27,700
and really not cleanse that space, if you will,
707
00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:31,600
I think that definitely has something to do with it.
708
00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:34,450
- NARRATOR: Desperate for help, George and Kathy call
709
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,110
the local priest back for a second blessing,
710
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,860
starting with the mysterious red room
711
00:38:40,850 --> 00:38:42,720
they recently discovered underneath
712
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,620
their basement stairs.
713
00:38:44,620 --> 00:38:47,520
- TIM: He said no way was he coming back into their house.
714
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,820
And that's when he revealed to them for the first time that
715
00:38:49,830 --> 00:38:51,700
when he had been there previously,
716
00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:53,740
something unseen had smacked him,
717
00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:55,670
and a voice told him to get out.
718
00:38:57,900 --> 00:38:59,400
- If we can see it with our own eyes,
719
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,570
it lends credibility to the fact that it would have been
720
00:39:02,570 --> 00:39:05,010
essential for them to get the help of the church
721
00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:07,010
to be able to rectify it.
722
00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:10,620
- NARRATOR: With no spiritual help on the way,
723
00:39:10,610 --> 00:39:13,310
the Lutzes take matters into their own hands
724
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,920
and bless the house themselves.
725
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,020
But their actions only further enrage the demons haunting it.
726
00:39:25,460 --> 00:39:27,200
- BECKIE-ANNE: When you're experiencing
727
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,400
a paranormal encounter, your eyes focus,
728
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,540
and you see something that you can't explain,
729
00:39:33,540 --> 00:39:38,610
and then you need to assess, is this a danger to me?
730
00:39:38,610 --> 00:39:41,450
- STEPHANIE: I think that you can stir up energy
731
00:39:41,450 --> 00:39:42,820
if you don't know what you're doing,
732
00:39:42,810 --> 00:39:44,350
or maybe that was the intention.
733
00:39:44,350 --> 00:39:47,990
You know, to try to create something or have this energy
734
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:50,490
kind of come out of the woodwork.
735
00:39:50,490 --> 00:39:53,060
- NARRATOR: Some believe the paranormal activity haunting
736
00:39:53,060 --> 00:39:58,300
the Lutzes may be their own doing.
737
00:39:58,300 --> 00:40:01,400
- George and Kathy practiced Transcendental Meditation,
738
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,170
which in the 1970s sometimes was a code word for they were
739
00:40:05,170 --> 00:40:07,240
interested in the occult.
740
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:08,440
- ALEXANDRA: Of that time of the '70s,
741
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,080
it was kind of the thing to do.
742
00:40:10,070 --> 00:40:12,140
I know, I grew up in it. I [unintelligible].
743
00:40:12,140 --> 00:40:14,980
A lot of incense-burning and a lot of chanting.
744
00:40:14,980 --> 00:40:17,350
But, if they were into parts of the occult
745
00:40:17,350 --> 00:40:20,490
that are incantations of bad things,
746
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,380
it's definitely inviting somebody in that
747
00:40:23,390 --> 00:40:26,790
you don't know who they are and where they come from, uh,
748
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:28,290
to create a negative energy.
749
00:40:28,290 --> 00:40:32,400
And then things can happen that are really bad.
750
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,800
- BRYAN: You know, any kind of dabbling
751
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,440
with any kind of occult forces
752
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:38,830
is usually the recipe for disaster because very few people
753
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,580
are properly trained in how to handle these things.
754
00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:44,610
- NARRATOR: After their blessing attempt,
755
00:40:44,610 --> 00:40:49,480
the dark energy within 112 Ocean Avenue only intensifies.
756
00:40:51,310 --> 00:40:54,980
Swarms of flies begin congregating in the same room
757
00:40:54,990 --> 00:40:56,630
where the priest experienced
758
00:40:56,620 --> 00:41:02,330
the mysterious slap in the face weeks earlier.
759
00:41:02,330 --> 00:41:03,470
- That's usually the case
760
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when you have the center of the haunting.
761
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,470
It's the place that nobody wants to go and the place
762
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:11,170
where spending too much time in there will become overwhelming.
763
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,740
- STEPHANIE: If that were happening to me right now,
764
00:41:14,740 --> 00:41:17,180
I would have called somebody in to come and help me.
765
00:41:17,170 --> 00:41:19,510
I would've tried to do anything.
766
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:21,880
But they kind of kept quiet on it.
767
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,480
- NARRATOR: But the flies are just the beginning of
768
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,380
the strange phenomena barraging the Lutzes.
769
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:31,190
- LAURA: The boys, who were sharing the same room, said--
770
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:33,990
and they absolutely swear to this to this day--
771
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:39,200
that they saw sort of like a--a black amorphous figure.
772
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,670
They felt like something like whooshed through them,
773
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:46,210
like a spirit.
774
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,870
- TIM: Kathy herself starts levitating over the bed.
775
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:52,370
And George sees this happening with his own eyes.
776
00:41:52,380 --> 00:41:55,120
- LAURA: Kathy looked at herself in the mirror one morning
777
00:41:55,110 --> 00:41:57,110
as she was washing her face.
778
00:41:57,110 --> 00:42:02,120
And her face transformed into that of an old hag.
779
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,060
- My hair turned color. There was no true color.
780
00:42:05,060 --> 00:42:08,460
It was a gray-white.
781
00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:10,530
My face was severely wrinkled.
782
00:42:10,530 --> 00:42:15,200
Ah, deep impressions coming down across the forehead.
783
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,200
My mouth was very tight, very drawn.
784
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,300
- You have a potential demonic presence.
785
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:23,100
You've got the flies around the window.
786
00:42:23,110 --> 00:42:26,350
You have the slime oozing from the walls.
787
00:42:26,340 --> 00:42:28,280
You have the black substances
788
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,180
that are coming up in the sinks and in the toilets.
789
00:42:31,180 --> 00:42:35,050
This is absolutely terrifying.
790
00:42:35,050 --> 00:42:36,490
- TIM: Whatever entities are there
791
00:42:36,490 --> 00:42:39,230
had quite an unusual strength.
792
00:42:39,220 --> 00:42:40,660
It would target the children.
793
00:42:40,660 --> 00:42:43,300
And it would start to attack them in their rooms.
794
00:42:43,290 --> 00:42:45,530
George tries to get out of bed to go and save them,
795
00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:48,030
and he's paralyzed. He can't get up.
796
00:42:48,030 --> 00:42:51,500
That's the amount of strength that was behind these hauntings.
797
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,000
- BRYAN: These kinds of things are things that we do see
798
00:42:56,010 --> 00:42:57,910
when we go and investigate a case
799
00:42:57,910 --> 00:43:00,280
and a person is experiencing what they think
800
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,420
is a demonic problem.
801
00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:05,380
- NARRATOR: The same evil spirits
802
00:43:05,380 --> 00:43:09,580
that haunted Butch DeFeo.
803
00:43:09,590 --> 00:43:14,900
When the Lutzes stay, the dark forces grow even more powerful.
804
00:43:14,890 --> 00:43:17,860
- TIM: George and Kathy describe coming down in
805
00:43:17,860 --> 00:43:19,130
the middle of the night
806
00:43:19,130 --> 00:43:21,530
and finding the sound of a marching band
807
00:43:21,530 --> 00:43:22,870
going through their house.
808
00:43:28,570 --> 00:43:30,540
Kathy, she finally had had enough.
809
00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:32,940
And the time came for the Lutz family to get out of that house.
810
00:43:34,610 --> 00:43:38,510
- NARRATOR: On January 14, 1976,
811
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:44,160
George and Kathy gather their kids and dog and race to escape.
812
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:47,450
- TIM: But whatever is in that house starts targeting them.
813
00:43:47,460 --> 00:43:49,030
He's unable to pull out.
814
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:51,670
It's like whatever is there is keeping them on that land.
815
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,460
A young family that has invested everything they have
816
00:43:56,470 --> 00:44:00,810
into their dream home suddenly, after just 28 days,
817
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,000
bolts from the property.
818
00:44:04,410 --> 00:44:07,450
- They were genuinely terrified.
819
00:44:09,110 --> 00:44:13,250
- NARRATOR: But the Lutzes will return to their haunted home.
820
00:44:13,250 --> 00:44:15,550
This time, with reinforcements.
821
00:44:18,490 --> 00:44:19,730
- Let's talk about the Amityville haunting.
822
00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:21,820
On November 13, 1974, Ronnie DeFeo murdered
823
00:44:21,830 --> 00:44:23,030
his two parents and four siblings.
824
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:24,400
A little over a year later,
825
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:26,090
Kathy and George Lutz moved into the home.
826
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:28,200
They would only end up staying in the home for 28 days.
827
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,400
They claim they had to leave the home
828
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,640
due to paranormal hauntings.
829
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:32,670
They claim some crazy shit in this case.
830
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:35,010
Furniture flying across the room, Kathy levitating,
831
00:44:35,010 --> 00:44:37,550
green slime oozing from the walls, infestation of flies.
832
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:42,740
- MARVIN: George and Kathy Lutz fled in the darkness in panic.
833
00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:44,790
They said the house was being possessed.
834
00:44:44,780 --> 00:44:47,420
It was the occult. It was demonic.
835
00:44:47,420 --> 00:44:49,560
There was slime oozing from the walls.
836
00:44:49,550 --> 00:44:51,990
There were flies in the dead of winter.
837
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:53,460
They heard voices.
838
00:44:58,060 --> 00:45:01,600
- LAURA: You couldn't have a--a more perfect storm
839
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,870
or confluence of events if you even drew a Venn diagram.
840
00:45:07,540 --> 00:45:11,040
You have unseen forces, supernatural,
841
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,710
that have driven this couple out of their house
842
00:45:13,710 --> 00:45:17,310
14 months after six people were violently murdered.
843
00:45:17,310 --> 00:45:19,450
Of course that grabbed everybody's attention.
844
00:45:25,590 --> 00:45:28,430
- NARRATOR: Soon, neighbors on Ocean Avenue realize
845
00:45:28,430 --> 00:45:32,400
the Lutz family car has been missing for weeks.
846
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,270
Rumors begin circulating the family
847
00:45:34,260 --> 00:45:36,560
had experienced strange behavior
848
00:45:36,570 --> 00:45:40,070
and fled because they were afraid.
849
00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:44,010
- MARVIN: The story filtered into our newsroom.
850
00:45:44,010 --> 00:45:47,280
Laura DiDio, who was an intern at that time,
851
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,280
was ordered to go out to the house
852
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,580
to interview the Lutz family.
853
00:45:52,580 --> 00:45:56,220
- LAURA: I spent five hours talking with them
854
00:45:56,220 --> 00:45:58,220
and getting them to open up.
855
00:45:58,220 --> 00:45:59,760
They were--they were scared.
856
00:46:01,620 --> 00:46:02,820
- MARVIN: She came back.
857
00:46:02,830 --> 00:46:04,470
She said their story is incredible.
858
00:46:04,460 --> 00:46:06,500
And she talked them into allowing us
859
00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:09,000
to come in with a crew.
860
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,870
I was hoping to get an exclusive interview with a ghost.
861
00:46:11,870 --> 00:46:14,670
[chuckles] Oh, an intrepid reporter,
862
00:46:14,670 --> 00:46:16,440
always looking for another interview.
863
00:46:23,410 --> 00:46:25,650
- NARRATOR: The reporters contact two of America's
864
00:46:25,650 --> 00:46:29,120
most renowned paranormal investigators for help,
865
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,260
Ed and Lorraine Warren.
866
00:46:32,260 --> 00:46:33,390
- Ed and Lorraine Warren were
867
00:46:33,390 --> 00:46:36,590
a paranormal power couple from Connecticut.
868
00:46:36,590 --> 00:46:39,060
She had a gift that she could see things that other people
869
00:46:39,060 --> 00:46:40,330
couldn't see and sense things
870
00:46:40,330 --> 00:46:42,300
that other people couldn't sense.
871
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:44,370
He was a Catholic demonologist,
872
00:46:44,370 --> 00:46:47,240
so they kind of meshed well together.
873
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:49,880
They really pushed the envelope.
874
00:46:49,870 --> 00:46:53,410
They went to all of the biggest houses,
875
00:46:53,410 --> 00:46:57,380
the scariest--things that you don't wanna find
876
00:46:57,380 --> 00:47:01,350
under your bed at night, they were there.
877
00:47:01,350 --> 00:47:02,850
- NARRATOR: With the Lutzes' permission,
878
00:47:02,850 --> 00:47:06,390
the reporters and the Warrens meet at 112 Ocean Avenue
879
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:11,200
to determine if demonic forces within really have haunted both
880
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:14,960
the Lutz and DeFeo families.
881
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,560
- Lorraine said, "Before we go into the house,
882
00:47:16,570 --> 00:47:20,540
"let's just take a minute to decompress, pray,
883
00:47:20,540 --> 00:47:22,140
get yourself in the right frame of mind."
884
00:47:23,870 --> 00:47:27,940
We went into the house with the crew.
885
00:47:27,940 --> 00:47:32,080
And Lorraine didn't know which rooms belonged to who.
886
00:47:34,450 --> 00:47:39,260
When she got to Ronnie DeFeo Jr.'s room, Butch,
887
00:47:39,260 --> 00:47:45,130
she walked to the entryway, stood in the doorway,
888
00:47:45,130 --> 00:47:47,670
took one step in, and immediately backed out and said,
889
00:47:47,660 --> 00:47:52,630
"No, it's too oppressive here. I can't go into this room."
890
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,740
- NARRATOR: But Lorraine can't escape this feeling.
891
00:47:55,740 --> 00:47:57,880
Even as her psychic reading continues
892
00:47:57,870 --> 00:48:00,640
on the home's second floor.
893
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,540
- She walked in the master bedroom.
894
00:48:03,550 --> 00:48:07,960
And she said, "Blood, blood, blood all over."
895
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,590
She sat down.
896
00:48:12,590 --> 00:48:15,830
She was having a very physical reaction to this.
897
00:48:15,830 --> 00:48:18,770
She got a migraine headache.
898
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,700
- STEPHANIE: Any type of place that has paranormal activity,
899
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:21,970
even if you're not looking for it
900
00:48:21,970 --> 00:48:23,500
and you happen to stumble upon it,
901
00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:25,370
those different things that I just described
902
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:27,840
are actually really common.
903
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,640
You know, especially if you're in a place
904
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,780
where six murders happened.
905
00:48:33,980 --> 00:48:36,950
- I don't doubt for one second that they were encountering
906
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:41,460
real paranormal entities during these experiences.
907
00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:45,420
- NARRATOR: Overcome, Lorraine abruptly ends their visit.
908
00:48:45,420 --> 00:48:48,960
But not before DiDio and her crew have enough material for
909
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,560
an earth-shattering newscast.
910
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,500
- Then it really blew up.
911
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:56,770
I would get calls from 20-year-old kids.
912
00:48:56,770 --> 00:48:59,470
Hey, can we go in there and spend the night?
913
00:48:59,470 --> 00:49:01,410
If the murders and Ronnie DeFeo's trial
914
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:07,170
hadn't been taxing enough, now you've ladled on ghostbusters.
915
00:49:09,250 --> 00:49:12,520
- People started to invade the...
916
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,960
the quaint little village that we have.
917
00:49:15,950 --> 00:49:18,420
- LAURA: All we kept getting for the next couple of weeks is,
918
00:49:18,420 --> 00:49:21,260
when is the next installment? When is the next installment?
919
00:49:21,260 --> 00:49:25,360
From there on in, this took on a life of its own.
920
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:26,760
- The news director said,
921
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,430
"Okay, we gotta go back in and do more on this.
922
00:49:28,430 --> 00:49:30,470
Follow up the story."
923
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:33,040
- NARRATOR: On March 6, 1976,
924
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,440
the news crew returns to the home with the Warrens.
925
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,410
They're joined by George and Kathy Lutz,
926
00:49:39,410 --> 00:49:41,250
who haven't been back to the house
927
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:45,980
since they fled in the middle of the night two months earlier.
928
00:49:45,980 --> 00:49:50,620
- LAURA: Unbeknownst to us, the Warrens had invited several of
929
00:49:50,620 --> 00:49:54,120
their psychic and paranormal friends.
930
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,520
George Lutz had invited several other
931
00:49:57,530 --> 00:50:01,170
paranormal investigating agencies to come in.
932
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,230
So there were about 20 people there.
933
00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:05,770
- NARRATOR: But the Warrens aren't just looking
934
00:50:05,770 --> 00:50:08,410
to conduct psychic readings.
935
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,040
This time, they're going to try to conjure the spirits.
936
00:50:14,780 --> 00:50:16,050
- MAN: We're back.
937
00:50:16,050 --> 00:50:17,420
And if you see it, there's the house.
938
00:50:17,410 --> 00:50:18,850
That's it, that's it.
939
00:50:18,850 --> 00:50:21,590
Now, notice how they've changed the, uh...
940
00:50:21,580 --> 00:50:22,720
- WOMAN: The windows.
941
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:24,460
- MAN: The eye--ooh. The eye windows.
942
00:50:24,450 --> 00:50:25,680
- WOMAN: They're not--
943
00:50:25,690 --> 00:50:26,960
- MAN: They're not eye windows anymore.
944
00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:41,300
- NARRATOR: Nearly a year and a half after Ronnie "Butch" DeFeo
945
00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:46,070
murdered his entire family inside their Amityville home
946
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,950
and three months after the new residents, the Lutzes,
947
00:50:49,950 --> 00:50:54,890
were chased away by a series of terrifying paranormal phenomena,
948
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,320
renowned paranormal investigators
949
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,060
Ed and Lorraine Warren
950
00:50:59,060 --> 00:51:01,860
have returned to the Amityville home to try to
951
00:51:01,860 --> 00:51:06,230
conjure the spirits haunting it.
952
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:08,630
- BECKIE-ANNE: They called the biggest names that they could,
953
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:11,000
the best experts, to help with the house.
954
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,200
And they truly were trying to figure out what was going on.
955
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,540
- MARVIN: I arrived, and I walked into the house,
956
00:51:16,540 --> 00:51:22,050
and there were about 20 people sitting around this table, uh,
957
00:51:22,050 --> 00:51:27,860
with a, uh, blessed candle, crucifix, and, uh, two psychics.
958
00:51:29,150 --> 00:51:31,150
The best description of our reaction during that s�ance
959
00:51:31,150 --> 00:51:34,750
was one word: we're mesmerized.
960
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,760
- I feel personally threatened.
961
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,800
- [pants]
962
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,840
It's something, it's--it's whatever's here.
963
00:51:41,830 --> 00:51:46,130
[pants] Whatever is here.
964
00:51:46,140 --> 00:51:49,080
And it's something that comes at you
965
00:51:49,070 --> 00:51:51,870
and makes your heart speed up, that kind of thing.
966
00:51:51,870 --> 00:51:55,040
- LAURA: So Lorraine was getting the perception
967
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,240
that whatever this was, this was a demonic force,
968
00:51:57,250 --> 00:52:00,990
and it came from the bowels of the earth.
969
00:52:00,980 --> 00:52:04,080
- MARVIN: She believed that the house had been possessed.
970
00:52:04,090 --> 00:52:06,530
There was an occult nature in there.
971
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,020
At one point, Lorraine Warren said to me, "Marvin,
972
00:52:10,030 --> 00:52:12,070
this is the closest to hell I ever wanna get."
973
00:52:14,330 --> 00:52:16,100
- PATRICIA: Lorraine Warren's specifically saying that this is
974
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:20,000
the closest to hell that she'll ever get is fascinating,
975
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,240
considering all of the stuff that she has experienced.
976
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:24,780
- BECKIE-ANNE: When they held these s�ances,
977
00:52:24,770 --> 00:52:26,270
I don't think they were just trying to prove it.
978
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,920
I think they were trying to stop whatever was happening.
979
00:52:31,380 --> 00:52:34,680
- NARRATOR: And soon, something does happen--
980
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,850
to the TV crew's cameraman.
981
00:52:37,850 --> 00:52:39,150
- LAURA: Steve gets to
982
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,330
the top of the second floor stair landing.
983
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,960
And all of a sudden, he turns around,
984
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,560
and I saw his face go ashen.
985
00:52:50,570 --> 00:52:52,040
All the blood drained out.
986
00:52:52,030 --> 00:52:55,600
And he--I could see, he breaks out into this sweat.
987
00:52:55,610 --> 00:52:57,780
And his face is contorted with pain.
988
00:52:57,770 --> 00:53:01,540
And he doubles over, clutching his chest,
989
00:53:01,540 --> 00:53:02,740
and he said all of a sudden,
990
00:53:02,750 --> 00:53:04,990
he just got severe heart palpitations.
991
00:53:04,980 --> 00:53:06,850
And that had never happened to him before.
992
00:53:12,290 --> 00:53:15,390
- If you're in a place where six murders had just happened
993
00:53:15,390 --> 00:53:17,630
13 months or so before,
994
00:53:17,630 --> 00:53:19,470
something like your heart pounding,
995
00:53:19,460 --> 00:53:21,600
that could be something that you're just not familiar with
996
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,200
and you're expecting or anticipating the worst,
997
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,870
but can also be very common in any paranormal situation.
998
00:53:27,870 --> 00:53:30,370
The energy is from spirits that are left behind.
999
00:53:32,210 --> 00:53:34,880
- NARRATOR: Moments later, the Warrens' photographer captures
1000
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,920
this haunting image.
1001
00:53:40,580 --> 00:53:44,920
- LAURA: It shows at the top of the stairs, in a doorway,
1002
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,620
what seems to be a little boy
1003
00:53:46,620 --> 00:53:51,190
with very bright eyes lighting up and a plaid shirt.
1004
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:52,930
- TIM: There are many people that feel that they actually
1005
00:53:52,930 --> 00:53:55,670
captured the spirit of John Matthew DeFeo,
1006
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:57,910
who was the youngest of the DeFeo children murdered
1007
00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:00,470
that night, coming out of one of the side rooms.
1008
00:54:00,470 --> 00:54:02,140
There are others who say that it was actually
1009
00:54:02,140 --> 00:54:04,510
one of the investigators that was there that night
1010
00:54:04,510 --> 00:54:08,280
and was just captured in the IR light of the camera
1011
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,280
and had this weird, ghostly reflection in his eyes.
1012
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,080
But when you see the photos side by side
1013
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,220
of the supposed ghost boy and John Matthew,
1014
00:54:17,220 --> 00:54:20,620
it's hard to really ignore the similarities.
1015
00:54:20,620 --> 00:54:24,020
- LAURA: I was not there when the picture was developed.
1016
00:54:24,030 --> 00:54:28,170
And I cannot vouch for its accuracy, veracity,
1017
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,100
or authenticity. I don't know.
1018
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:33,640
- STEPHANIE: It's easy in this day and age
1019
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,340
to fake evidence like that.
1020
00:54:35,340 --> 00:54:37,710
Back then, it was harder to fake.
1021
00:54:37,710 --> 00:54:41,410
But could it have been possible that it was a ghost?
1022
00:54:41,410 --> 00:54:42,550
Absolutely.
1023
00:54:44,510 --> 00:54:46,350
- NARRATOR: Interest in the Amityville case
1024
00:54:46,350 --> 00:54:49,990
continues to build, sparking the curiosity of
1025
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:53,530
legendary parapsychologist Hans Holzer,
1026
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,490
who signs on to conduct his own investigation.
1027
00:54:58,730 --> 00:55:03,330
- My father, Dr. Hans Holzer, was one of the most known
1028
00:55:03,330 --> 00:55:06,230
American ghost hunters of our time.
1029
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:08,510
In the case of the Amityville story,
1030
00:55:08,500 --> 00:55:12,140
you've got both true crime and the paranormal.
1031
00:55:12,140 --> 00:55:14,880
Amityville, to him, was kind of falling in that, you know,
1032
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,180
what do we do with this?
1033
00:55:17,180 --> 00:55:20,750
- NARRATOR: Holzer takes the investigation back to its roots:
1034
00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:23,290
the DeFeo murders.
1035
00:55:23,290 --> 00:55:25,230
- Why would Ronnie act out in that way?
1036
00:55:25,220 --> 00:55:26,690
There's gotta be a reason why.
1037
00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:29,860
And that's really what he was trying to find out about.
1038
00:55:29,860 --> 00:55:33,200
- TIM: Hans Holzer utilized what he called the Holzer Method,
1039
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,540
which would involve him bringing the equipment,
1040
00:55:35,530 --> 00:55:37,100
similar to what you see paranormal researchers
1041
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:40,100
use on TV today.
1042
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:44,040
But he would also bring along with him a trance medium.
1043
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,080
- ALEXANDRA: If you're a deep trance medium,
1044
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,450
essentially means that you are allowing your body
1045
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,140
to be taken over to the said entity
1046
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:55,520
that's in the environment at the time to speak through you.
1047
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,760
And the medium of his choice then was Ethel Johnson-Meyers.
1048
00:56:00,790 --> 00:56:03,930
- NARRATOR: Once again, the Channel 5 news team joins
1049
00:56:03,930 --> 00:56:07,170
to document any paranormal activity.
1050
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,360
- Holzer had planned to go to the house with Ethel,
1051
00:56:10,370 --> 00:56:12,840
and could I meet him there, and could I do research?
1052
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,540
I said, "Sure."
1053
00:56:14,540 --> 00:56:18,480
- ALEXANDRA: So the way Dr. Holzer did his investigations
1054
00:56:18,470 --> 00:56:23,140
was he had his recorder and five different Polaroid cameras.
1055
00:56:23,150 --> 00:56:26,820
So when Ethel went into a trance, that tape was running.
1056
00:56:26,820 --> 00:56:30,890
And then he would speak into the microphone to Ethel,
1057
00:56:30,890 --> 00:56:32,490
to the spirit
1058
00:56:32,490 --> 00:56:34,230
[imitates Austrian accent] "Tell me who you are.
1059
00:56:34,220 --> 00:56:35,660
What is your name?"
1060
00:56:42,330 --> 00:56:46,370
- But Hans Holzer's video camera froze up.
1061
00:56:46,370 --> 00:56:47,870
And he says, "That's the first time
1062
00:56:47,870 --> 00:56:49,810
this has ever happened to me."
1063
00:56:49,810 --> 00:56:53,550
- Hans Holzer wanted physical proof of what was going on.
1064
00:56:53,540 --> 00:56:56,340
He certainly believed the trance mediums that he worked with.
1065
00:56:56,350 --> 00:56:58,620
But he knew that if he wanted to convince people
1066
00:56:58,610 --> 00:57:01,410
that the paranormal was real, you were gonna have to show them
1067
00:57:01,420 --> 00:57:06,160
that photograph or that piece of film or that audio recording.
1068
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,430
- NARRATOR: Holzer's Polaroid cameras are working,
1069
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:13,100
and in this photo, capture a presence in the house.
1070
00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:19,170
The bullet holes leftover from the DeFeo murders
1071
00:57:19,170 --> 00:57:22,070
in this undoctored photo.
1072
00:57:22,070 --> 00:57:23,770
- ALEXANDRA: There is glowing light
1073
00:57:23,770 --> 00:57:26,440
that you cannot account for.
1074
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,410
And that was something that he would be very excited about.
1075
00:57:30,410 --> 00:57:33,050
Yeah, something is still here.
1076
00:57:33,050 --> 00:57:36,590
Somebody is forming that energy.
1077
00:57:36,590 --> 00:57:38,660
- NARRATOR: Holzer's not the only one sensing
1078
00:57:38,650 --> 00:57:40,950
a disturbance in the home.
1079
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,460
His deep trance medium, Ethel Meyers,
1080
00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:46,930
also detects an unknown force.
1081
00:57:46,930 --> 00:57:48,500
- ALEXANDRA: With a deep trance medium,
1082
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:50,400
they're going to use your vocal chords.
1083
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,040
Your voice will change.
1084
00:57:52,030 --> 00:57:53,970
Your facial expressions will start to shift,
1085
00:57:53,970 --> 00:57:57,140
almost as if you have a makeup artist molding your face
1086
00:57:57,140 --> 00:57:58,710
to look like a character.
1087
00:57:58,710 --> 00:58:02,080
It's really quite scary.
1088
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,120
- LAURA: What came through was the spirit
1089
00:58:04,110 --> 00:58:06,380
of a Native American chief.
1090
00:58:09,590 --> 00:58:11,630
- NARRATOR: Hans Holzer himself would later explain
1091
00:58:11,620 --> 00:58:15,960
Ethel's experience in an interview with Marvin Scott.
1092
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,230
- On, uh, further investigation, I discovered that the house was
1093
00:58:19,230 --> 00:58:21,600
built on Indian burial ground.
1094
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:26,270
And that aroused the Indian to a warpath
1095
00:58:26,270 --> 00:58:28,040
against anybody living in the house.
1096
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,880
That's when the fun started.
1097
00:58:29,870 --> 00:58:33,040
- Holzer told me during an interview that he believed
1098
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,210
it was possessed because there was a chief
1099
00:58:36,210 --> 00:58:38,610
who was rebellious of the house being there,
1100
00:58:38,610 --> 00:58:40,580
and this was his way of responding
1101
00:58:40,580 --> 00:58:43,750
to get the people out of the house.
1102
00:58:43,750 --> 00:58:48,060
This was the occult that was occurring at 112 Ocean Avenue.
1103
00:58:48,060 --> 00:58:53,470
- In my initial research back in early 1976,
1104
00:58:53,460 --> 00:58:56,030
I had gone to the Amityville Historical Society,
1105
00:58:56,030 --> 00:58:58,500
and I had seen that there were documents that there was,
1106
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:00,340
in fact--the house had been built
1107
00:59:00,340 --> 00:59:04,340
on a Native American burial ground.
1108
00:59:04,340 --> 00:59:06,210
- NARRATOR: The house where Butch Defeo
1109
00:59:06,210 --> 00:59:10,310
murdered his entire family...
1110
00:59:10,310 --> 00:59:12,350
and later sent the Lutz family
1111
00:59:12,350 --> 00:59:15,090
running terrified into the night.
1112
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,520
- [engine turns over]
1113
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,320
- When people are slaughtered in their sleep
1114
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,120
the way that the DeFeos were, and you move into the home
1115
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,920
and try to have a happy life right afterward,
1116
00:59:22,930 --> 00:59:24,630
I think there's no question
1117
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:27,300
that you're gonna run into some terrible energy.
1118
00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:29,900
You're gonna run into some paranormal activity.
1119
00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:32,570
- NARRATOR: Holzer's findings further fuel the publicity
1120
00:59:32,570 --> 00:59:35,270
engulfing the Amityville case...
1121
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:38,470
but nothing like what's about to come next.
1122
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,520
- The true story of the Amityville Horror house,
1123
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:46,780
part two.
1124
00:59:46,780 --> 00:59:49,050
So the Lutz family moved in in December of 1975
1125
00:59:49,050 --> 00:59:51,890
and only stayed for a mere 28 days.
1126
00:59:51,890 --> 00:59:54,730
In that month, they experienced weird paranormal activity
1127
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,920
such as eyes peering into the house from all the windows,
1128
00:59:57,930 --> 00:59:59,430
hearing unexplainable noises,
1129
00:59:59,430 --> 01:00:02,700
and even smelling really foul, bizarre odors.
1130
01:00:09,470 --> 01:00:13,580
- NARRATOR: In 1976, news of the Lutz family's strange encounters
1131
01:00:13,580 --> 01:00:16,720
within their recently abandoned Amityville home
1132
01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:18,950
makes headlines across the nation.
1133
01:00:21,220 --> 01:00:22,850
- STEPHANIE: Things such as green slime,
1134
01:00:22,850 --> 01:00:26,690
flies all gathering in one area in the house,
1135
01:00:26,690 --> 01:00:29,990
disembodied voices, cold spots in the home,
1136
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:31,930
Kathy levitating out of bed.
1137
01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:37,070
- NARRATOR: That same year, George and Kathy Lutz connect
1138
01:00:37,070 --> 01:00:42,240
with author Jay Anson to share their terrifying story.
1139
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,040
- They had sent him 45 hours
1140
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,040
of taped conversations.
1141
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:50,510
- I'm a journalist.
1142
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,120
I try to investigate as best as I can.
1143
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,460
I was able to put together a chronology of the events that
1144
01:00:57,450 --> 01:01:01,190
took place within that framework of 28 days.
1145
01:01:01,190 --> 01:01:04,290
I sincerely believe they took place.
1146
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:09,530
- NARRATOR: The book is an instant bestseller,
1147
01:01:09,530 --> 01:01:11,500
capturing in chilling detail
1148
01:01:11,500 --> 01:01:14,400
the story of both the brutal DeFeo murders
1149
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,640
and the subsequent hauntings experienced by the Lutzes.
1150
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,710
- LAURA: People ate it up. And it takes off.
1151
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:25,110
- Americans love a good ghost story.
1152
01:01:25,110 --> 01:01:26,880
And there's no better ghost story
1153
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,950
than the one that comes out of Amityville.
1154
01:01:30,890 --> 01:01:35,230
- TIM: So in 1977, author Jay Anson adapts their story into
1155
01:01:35,220 --> 01:01:37,560
his novel, "The Amityville Horror."
1156
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,200
And I saw the cover.
1157
01:01:39,190 --> 01:01:41,030
I saw the logo with the devil tail.
1158
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:44,170
And then I saw the words "Based on a true story."
1159
01:01:44,170 --> 01:01:46,770
And that just captured my attention right then and there.
1160
01:01:46,770 --> 01:01:49,640
I became obsessed with this case.
1161
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,180
- RIC: I got interested originally
1162
01:01:52,170 --> 01:01:54,240
in the Amityville story
1163
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,040
by seeing my mother and sister's reaction
1164
01:01:58,050 --> 01:01:59,990
to Jay Anson's book.
1165
01:01:59,980 --> 01:02:03,650
And when I picked it up, the house with the eye-like windows
1166
01:02:03,650 --> 01:02:06,450
just kind of called to me. It fascinated me.
1167
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,000
- NARRATOR: Almost overnight, the quiet village of Amityville
1168
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:15,890
turns into an unwanted tourist attraction.
1169
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:18,570
- I have to say from the time the murders happened,
1170
01:02:18,570 --> 01:02:24,340
the traffic on Ocean Avenue picked up unbelievably.
1171
01:02:24,340 --> 01:02:26,580
- NARRATOR: But the book is just the beginning.
1172
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:33,550
In 1979, the motion picture "The Amityville Horror" is released.
1173
01:02:37,990 --> 01:02:40,030
- [flies buzzing]
1174
01:02:43,830 --> 01:02:46,170
- NARRATOR: The film grosses nearly $8 million
1175
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:47,700
its first weekend--
1176
01:02:47,700 --> 01:02:52,270
the equivalent of $30 million today.
1177
01:02:52,270 --> 01:02:56,070
- BRYAN: "The Amityville Horror" was a classic horror film.
1178
01:02:56,070 --> 01:02:57,740
It still holds its own today.
1179
01:02:57,740 --> 01:02:59,710
Those little curved windows in the attic.
1180
01:02:59,710 --> 01:03:01,610
That stays in public consciousness.
1181
01:03:01,610 --> 01:03:03,910
It becomes an archetype.
1182
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:08,450
- NARRATOR: Soon, a second wave of mania takes over the town.
1183
01:03:08,450 --> 01:03:09,890
- WOMAN: Now, you all came up from Queens
1184
01:03:09,890 --> 01:03:12,430
to try to look at the house. Why?
1185
01:03:12,420 --> 01:03:13,960
- I don't know. I haven't seen the movie yet.
1186
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,630
I'm waiting to see the movie. Just, you know, beforehand.
1187
01:03:16,630 --> 01:03:18,000
- After that, when the movie came out,
1188
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:19,730
then it stirred up stuff in the village
1189
01:03:19,730 --> 01:03:21,570
and it really became more of a nuisance,
1190
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,230
or it did--it was a nuisance,
1191
01:03:23,230 --> 01:03:25,070
with people coming by all the time,
1192
01:03:25,070 --> 01:03:28,540
looking at the house and walking on the property.
1193
01:03:28,540 --> 01:03:31,340
- TIM: "The Amityville Horror" story
1194
01:03:31,340 --> 01:03:33,640
hit the American public consciousness
1195
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,840
at just the right time for this to get a lot of play.
1196
01:03:37,850 --> 01:03:40,620
It was--in the years immediately following the release
1197
01:03:40,620 --> 01:03:43,190
of the book and the movie "The Exorcist."
1198
01:03:43,190 --> 01:03:44,560
And that kicked off an era
1199
01:03:44,550 --> 01:03:47,450
that we refer to as the Satanic Panic.
1200
01:03:49,420 --> 01:03:52,490
- LAURA: The movie comes out, and bam.
1201
01:03:52,490 --> 01:03:56,030
The legend is born, and it's in full swing.
1202
01:03:56,030 --> 01:03:58,830
People who were atheist, agnostics,
1203
01:03:58,830 --> 01:04:00,730
came out of that movie theater.
1204
01:04:00,740 --> 01:04:01,970
And the next thing you know,
1205
01:04:01,970 --> 01:04:05,840
people were sleeping with the lights on.
1206
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,610
- PATRICIA: We have this fascinating paranormal story,
1207
01:04:08,610 --> 01:04:13,350
but also this murder trial where they try and use
1208
01:04:13,350 --> 01:04:15,850
demonic presence in court.
1209
01:04:15,850 --> 01:04:19,820
And it's something that's going to be debated forever.
1210
01:04:19,820 --> 01:04:22,320
- BECKIE-ANNE: I believe that something supernatural
1211
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,390
occurred in that house.
1212
01:04:24,390 --> 01:04:27,190
Someone commented on one of my friend's videos and said,
1213
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,140
"That was entirely a hoax."
1214
01:04:29,130 --> 01:04:30,800
Says who? Were you there?
1215
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,140
Are you able to produce something that proves
1216
01:04:34,140 --> 01:04:36,810
one side or the other?
1217
01:04:36,810 --> 01:04:37,980
- TIM: All of these people
1218
01:04:37,970 --> 01:04:39,840
skeptical about the Lutzes' story,
1219
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,680
with people calling them liars and hoaxers
1220
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,380
and saying that they're just in this to make a buck, well,
1221
01:04:45,380 --> 01:04:47,750
the only thing they can do to really defend themselves
1222
01:04:47,750 --> 01:04:51,650
and to make people believe them is to take lie detector tests,
1223
01:04:51,650 --> 01:04:53,120
which they passed.
1224
01:04:54,820 --> 01:04:56,360
- NARRATOR: Suddenly, the Lutzes
1225
01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:00,200
begin making appearances on national TV.
1226
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,400
- It was George that went on "The Merv Griffin Show"
1227
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,200
and presented the ghost boy photo,
1228
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,500
reigniting all the discussion and the debate,
1229
01:05:06,500 --> 01:05:08,270
whether or not there was actually a real haunting
1230
01:05:08,270 --> 01:05:09,710
that happened there.
1231
01:05:13,110 --> 01:05:15,410
- NARRATOR: Despite all the publicity,
1232
01:05:15,410 --> 01:05:17,880
there's one thing the Lutzes won't do.
1233
01:05:19,780 --> 01:05:24,220
- Every TV network, every primetime news magazine show,
1234
01:05:24,220 --> 01:05:26,820
they must've been throwing blank checks at the Lutzes
1235
01:05:26,820 --> 01:05:28,020
to get the footage of them
1236
01:05:28,020 --> 01:05:29,860
walking through that house again.
1237
01:05:29,860 --> 01:05:32,460
But they just refused to do it.
1238
01:05:32,460 --> 01:05:34,030
- NARRATOR: For the next 50 years,
1239
01:05:34,030 --> 01:05:37,730
the entertainment industry cashes in with countless books,
1240
01:05:37,730 --> 01:05:39,770
documentaries, and movies
1241
01:05:39,770 --> 01:05:43,710
about the DeFeo murders and Lutz encounters.
1242
01:05:43,710 --> 01:05:45,480
- I grew up learning about the Amityville murders because
1243
01:05:45,470 --> 01:05:49,840
this was actually my dad's first rated R film in theaters.
1244
01:05:49,850 --> 01:05:54,020
And to this day, he says it just scared the daylights out of him.
1245
01:05:54,020 --> 01:05:55,490
Here we are today with just about
1246
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:56,920
20 Amityville Horror movies
1247
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,820
just kind of snowballed after that book.
1248
01:05:59,820 --> 01:06:01,120
- The thing about the Amityville case
1249
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,920
is because it is such an iconic visual,
1250
01:06:04,930 --> 01:06:09,940
that that house has become a marketing cash cow.
1251
01:06:09,930 --> 01:06:12,370
No matter how bad the movie is, people are gonna buy it.
1252
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,470
- When I was 13 years old,
1253
01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:18,110
I went on my first date with a boy.
1254
01:06:18,110 --> 01:06:22,080
And his mother took us to see the Ryan Reynolds version of
1255
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,210
"Amityville Horror."
1256
01:06:23,210 --> 01:06:25,950
I didn't know that it was a previous film.
1257
01:06:25,950 --> 01:06:27,720
I didn't know that it was real.
1258
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And then my parents were like,
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that happened when we were younger,
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and there was a huge film.
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Then I started getting more involved with researching.
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Like, how could this be real?
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And then, you know, Googling "true story behind this movie".
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And that's when I really understood it.
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- If it's one thing about the American people,
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it's that we love and hate a mystery.
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- NARRATOR: But one man may know the answer to what
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really happened to the DeFeo and Lutz families.
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- MAN: Is this fact or fiction? - It's fiction. Absolutely.
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- It's the anniversary of
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"The Amityville Horror" movie from 1979.
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So I figured why not visit the actual house itself,
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but in a respectful manner.
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- NARRATOR: The fascination with the hauntings
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inside 112 Ocean Avenue continues today.
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- We do get a lot of, uh, interest and tourists.
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People coming in to look at the house and curiosity about it.
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These hauntings and paranormal things
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that just piques people's interest.
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And it's just one of those human nature things.
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But it's just not really fair for the people
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that do live there,
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for the intrusions they get on the property.
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- TIM: It's become a place where it's almost like a pilgrimage.
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You really, for the most part,
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get people that are just curious and interested.
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But even when we come here to make peace with Amityville,
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Amityville might not be ready to make peace with us.
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- GERALYN: It's not uncommon to be walking along the street,
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and then seeing that car that's holding up traffic,
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that's looking at the numbers on the houses,
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01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,870
and they're having a hard time finding that haunted house that
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they think is haunted, and it's not.
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There's been very happy families there.
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- The feeling that's left in that house now
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is what is left over from what happened in 1974.
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It's left an imprint on the house,
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this horrible stamp on it for the rest of history.
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- NARRATOR: An imprint left by Ronnie "Butch" DeFeo when
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he suddenly murdered his entire family in cold blood.
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- STEPHANIE: Ronnie DeFeo said there is a demon there that
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completely took over his body and made him all these things.
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He heard voices.
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- NARRATOR: But 21 years after failing to convince a jury that
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the devil made him do it, DeFeo finally comes forward
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to unburden himself with the truth.
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In 1995, he says his demon defense was all a sham...
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invented by his lawyer William Weber.
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- Mr. Weber tells me, "Look.
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"We got 'The Godfather' and 'The Exorcist'
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"all in one here, Ronnie.
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We're gonna make big, big money."
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My lawyer told me what to tell a psychiatrist
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so they would go along with everything.
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- William Weber came up with the creative defense that there was
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something supernatural involved in the house.
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He had sold Butch DeFeo on the idea
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that there was gonna be a book
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and he would be famous, and there would be money.
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It would be a relief if we could blame
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the devil or demons or ghosts
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simply because of the fact to know that your fellow
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human being is capable of something so horrendous
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is truly terrifying.
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More so than any disembodied [unintelligible]
1326
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or giant Jody the pigs, or oozing walls.
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- NARRATOR: Weber continues this story with the home's
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next residents as well.
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- WILLIAM: After the trial was over,
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I was introduced to George and Kathy, uh, Lutz,
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who were then living in the DeFeo residence.
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And they had approached me with an idea that, uh,
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there were people interested with big money, uh,
1334
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in developing the demonism aspect of the DeFeo murder.
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- Bill Weber said the story grew over dinner with the Lutzes.
1336
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A matter of fact, he said it grew over a bottle of wine.
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One bottle of wine? No, three bottles of wine!
1338
01:10:50,350 --> 01:10:54,820
And the story just grew and grew and grew.
1339
01:10:54,820 --> 01:10:56,890
- NARRATOR: The Lutzes themselves confirm
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01:10:56,890 --> 01:11:00,560
Weber's account to reporter Laura DiDio.
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- LAURA: The Lutzes had taped a conversation with William Weber.
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And they said, "Before we play this,
1343
01:11:08,460 --> 01:11:11,930
"we just want you to know we're not too proud of this at all.
1344
01:11:11,930 --> 01:11:13,430
We're very embarrassed."
1345
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:16,740
And on the tape, I heard William Weber
1346
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was leading the charge,
1347
01:11:18,110 --> 01:11:22,080
which was we should be able to get several movies
1348
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,180
and several books out of it, at least.
1349
01:11:24,180 --> 01:11:29,720
Which, again, going back to 1975, '76,
1350
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,820
that's pretty good marketing.
1351
01:11:31,820 --> 01:11:35,390
He already had franchise in mind.
1352
01:11:35,390 --> 01:11:37,930
- NARRATOR: But not everyone reaps the reward.
1353
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- MARVIN: The Lutzes, of all the money that was made
1354
01:11:40,830 --> 01:11:42,270
on the films and the books,
1355
01:11:42,260 --> 01:11:43,860
they made very little out of this.
1356
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I think the total they ever saw, if the figure is correct,
1357
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something like $300,000.
1358
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But millions were made on the films and the books.
1359
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- PATRICIA: The defense lawyer, William Weber,
1360
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definitely took advantage of the time period
1361
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and the Satanic Panic going on. I think a lot of the stories
1362
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that we hear of this Amityville home
1363
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are a snowball effect, where we start off with
1364
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one thing spooky, and then you kind of add to that,
1365
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and then from there, it just keeps going, and going,
1366
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and it becomes something so much greater than it was meant to.
1367
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- BRYAN: It's kind of like the little telephone game you played
1368
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in--in grade school, you know?
1369
01:12:18,970 --> 01:12:21,570
You're always gonna have controversy,
1370
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people saying this was, uh...not authentic,
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01:12:24,510 --> 01:12:26,780
and other people saying, no, it really happened.
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The truth is always in the middle.
1373
01:12:29,740 --> 01:12:32,240
- NARRATOR: And nothing is more shocking than the truth
1374
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DeFeo admits to next.
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- I can honestly say that I'm not guilty.
1376
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- The Lutz family, they moved into the house
1377
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,500
in December of 1975.
1378
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However, they only lived in the house for 28 days.
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They started talking to the media about the fact
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01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,430
that the house was haunted.
1381
01:12:50,430 --> 01:12:52,470
And this is when people started suspecting
1382
01:12:52,470 --> 01:12:56,710
that they were making up the story for fame or notoriety.
1383
01:12:56,710 --> 01:13:00,250
- NARRATOR: After admitting his devil defense was a sham,
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in 1995, Ronnie "Butch" DeFeo decides he can no longer
1385
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hold back his family's darkest secret.
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He finally comes clean
1387
01:13:12,990 --> 01:13:17,230
what really happened inside their home that horrific night.
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01:13:18,860 --> 01:13:21,660
- RONNIE: My sister had come to a point in her life where
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01:13:21,660 --> 01:13:23,200
she wanted to be rebellious.
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01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,340
She wanted to get out of the house.
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01:13:25,330 --> 01:13:28,570
And you couldn't be free and be a DeFeo.
1392
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In that house, nobody could be free.
1393
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:35,350
- You have to go a step back and to understand that
1394
01:13:35,340 --> 01:13:39,140
the DeFeo household was a ticking time bomb.
1395
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There was greed, drugs, organized crime involvement.
1396
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,860
The family had a horrible amount of domestic abuse
1397
01:13:47,860 --> 01:13:52,630
from the father, Big Ronnie Sr.
1398
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- NARRATOR: According to Butch's account,
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01:13:54,530 --> 01:13:58,470
18-year-old Dawn DeFeo wanted out.
1400
01:13:58,470 --> 01:14:03,010
And on the night of November 13, 1974,
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01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,340
she was ready to kill for her freedom.
1402
01:14:06,340 --> 01:14:11,310
- According to Butch DeFeo, Dawn was pressing and pressing.
1403
01:14:11,310 --> 01:14:16,120
She's the one that brought the rifle down to Butch and said,
1404
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,020
"We gotta do it. We gotta do it now.
1405
01:14:18,020 --> 01:14:19,790
If we don't do, we're never gonna be free."
1406
01:14:21,020 --> 01:14:22,320
- RONNIE: I got high.
1407
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,420
And I was using a lot of heroin back then.
1408
01:14:24,430 --> 01:14:27,970
I had gone down the basement, had the TV on.
1409
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,330
- NARRATOR: But a stoned Butch dismisses
1410
01:14:30,330 --> 01:14:32,730
his sister's ramblings.
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01:14:32,730 --> 01:14:35,170
- My mother and father apparently went to bed.
1412
01:14:35,170 --> 01:14:36,570
Everybody went to bed.
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01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:39,180
You gotta remember now, I'm high.
1414
01:14:39,170 --> 01:14:41,370
I'm still drunk.
1415
01:14:41,380 --> 01:14:44,250
And then I heard a roar.
1416
01:14:44,250 --> 01:14:48,920
I went upstairs, it was a bad smell.
1417
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,690
At that time, I didn't realize what the smell was.
1418
01:14:51,690 --> 01:14:53,690
It was sulfur.
1419
01:14:53,690 --> 01:14:56,160
Went into my mother and father's room.
1420
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,160
And I saw a hole in my father's back.
1421
01:15:01,930 --> 01:15:05,600
- NARRATOR: Beside Ronnie Sr., Butch's mother, Louise.
1422
01:15:08,270 --> 01:15:11,710
And the horror continues.
1423
01:15:11,710 --> 01:15:13,050
- RONNIE: I turned around,
1424
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,680
and my sister's room was directly across.
1425
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,020
And, uh, she had a hole in the side of her head,
1426
01:15:17,010 --> 01:15:20,210
and it was blood coming down.
1427
01:15:20,220 --> 01:15:23,420
- NARRATOR: 13-year-old Allison DeFeo.
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01:15:23,420 --> 01:15:24,990
- RONNIE: She had a pink shag rug.
1429
01:15:24,990 --> 01:15:26,830
I'll never forget that.
1430
01:15:26,820 --> 01:15:31,390
- NARRATOR: Next, Butch discovers 12-year-old Marc,
1431
01:15:31,390 --> 01:15:34,260
and the youngest member of the DeFeo family,
1432
01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:37,660
nine-year-old John Matthew.
1433
01:15:37,670 --> 01:15:41,270
- Both of my brothers' rooms, they were dead.
1434
01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:44,310
- NARRATOR: Then comes Butch's biggest shock.
1435
01:15:44,310 --> 01:15:47,980
His sister Dawn is still alive.
1436
01:15:47,980 --> 01:15:51,780
And she's armed with a rifle.
1437
01:15:51,780 --> 01:15:54,720
- RONNIE: I looked at her. She looked at me.
1438
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,320
And we got into a wrestling match.
1439
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,420
I took the rifle away from her. I shot her in the head.
1440
01:16:03,530 --> 01:16:05,060
- NARRATOR: Some of the forensics seem
1441
01:16:05,060 --> 01:16:08,930
to corroborate Butch's story.
1442
01:16:08,930 --> 01:16:10,060
- When you look at it,
1443
01:16:10,060 --> 01:16:11,400
there's evidence that there was gunpowder
1444
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,500
on the front of Dawn's dress and on her hands.
1445
01:16:15,970 --> 01:16:18,810
- NARRATOR: But others believe Butch actively helped his sister
1446
01:16:18,810 --> 01:16:23,050
commit the murder before he turned the rifle on her.
1447
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:24,110
- STEPHANIE: I have always maintained
1448
01:16:24,110 --> 01:16:25,710
there was a second shooter.
1449
01:16:25,710 --> 01:16:28,450
And I actually didn't realize that that was even a thing until
1450
01:16:28,450 --> 01:16:32,690
I looked into the actual files and found the evidence.
1451
01:16:32,690 --> 01:16:36,190
- RIC: Herman Race, the retired New York City detective
1452
01:16:36,190 --> 01:16:37,830
working for the defense,
1453
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:40,570
uncovered that there was more than one gun used,
1454
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,230
and there was accomplices involved that actually kept
1455
01:16:43,230 --> 01:16:46,470
the kids quiet during the murders.
1456
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:50,310
Remember, even if you just look at one murder weapon,
1457
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:54,210
a .35 Marlin is so loud that you can go deaf
1458
01:16:54,210 --> 01:16:55,880
from the firing of it.
1459
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,120
And this is a small house.
1460
01:16:58,110 --> 01:16:59,650
- [gun cocking]
1461
01:17:03,020 --> 01:17:06,120
- It's incredible that the victims didn't hear any of
1462
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:09,460
the shots over the 15-minute period.
1463
01:17:09,460 --> 01:17:11,160
- NARRATOR: But that's not all.
1464
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,660
- RIC: Not all the bodies
1465
01:17:12,660 --> 01:17:14,760
that were found in bed were shot in bed.
1466
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:19,370
So, the police knew from day one that the bodies were planted.
1467
01:17:19,370 --> 01:17:22,340
Um, or at least the parents were made to look like
1468
01:17:22,340 --> 01:17:25,240
they had been sleeping peacefully.
1469
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,580
- I think that he staged the entire crime scene
1470
01:17:27,580 --> 01:17:30,780
and he cleaned it up himself before he did anything about it.
1471
01:17:30,780 --> 01:17:34,150
- I can honestly say that I'm not guilty of the, uh,
1472
01:17:34,150 --> 01:17:36,020
crime that I was found guilty of.
1473
01:17:36,020 --> 01:17:38,820
I'm guilty of one act, and the act was manslaughter,
1474
01:17:38,820 --> 01:17:40,460
not murder.
1475
01:17:40,460 --> 01:17:42,300
- RIC: Now, was Butch DeFeo completely innocent?
1476
01:17:42,290 --> 01:17:43,560
No, he was not innocent.
1477
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,660
He had a hand in the murder of Dawn.
1478
01:17:46,660 --> 01:17:50,830
But he was adamant that he never planned or intended
1479
01:17:50,830 --> 01:17:53,030
the murder of the younger children.
1480
01:17:57,410 --> 01:18:00,910
- NARRATOR: But was Butch DeFeo telling the truth?
1481
01:18:00,910 --> 01:18:06,350
Was his sister Dawn both the main killer and the victim?
1482
01:18:06,350 --> 01:18:09,950
Or, was there truly a darker underlying force
1483
01:18:09,950 --> 01:18:12,490
at play within the home?
1484
01:18:12,490 --> 01:18:18,100
Something that drove Butch and the Lutz family to madness?
1485
01:18:18,090 --> 01:18:21,930
- The DeFeo murders are quite an interesting case because it is
1486
01:18:21,930 --> 01:18:24,930
going to forever pull people in different directions.
1487
01:18:24,930 --> 01:18:28,730
Whether or not this is one of the most intense cases of
1488
01:18:28,740 --> 01:18:33,950
demonic possession or if this is simply a person disturbed,
1489
01:18:33,940 --> 01:18:36,880
wanting to do these things.
1490
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:41,650
- NARRATOR: And on March 12, 2021, the mystery only deepens.
1491
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- Breaking news. On March 12, 2021,
1492
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:51,820
Ronald DeFeo Jr. died in prison at the age of 69.
1493
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:54,030
So far, the cause of death is undetermined
1494
01:18:54,030 --> 01:18:56,430
until an autopsy is performed.
1495
01:18:56,430 --> 01:18:59,330
And if you don't know who he is, he's better known
1496
01:18:59,330 --> 01:19:01,830
as the Amityville Horror killer.
1497
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,580
Yes, the one that all the movies are based off.
1498
01:19:05,570 --> 01:19:08,570
- NARRATOR: The cause of death is still unknown.
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01:19:08,580 --> 01:19:10,020
- PRISCILLA: Once I heard about the death
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of Ronald "Butch" DeFeo Jr.,
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I was like, I have to talk about this.
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And I'm quite literally throwing makeup on my face
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and trying to get a video out there on TikTok.
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It's a huge death.
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- DENNIS: When Ronnie DeFeo died,
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people started coming again.
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You get that traffic, and it just becomes more of a nuisance
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than a positive thing for the village.
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- NARRATOR: DeFeo's passing reignites a generation's
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fascination with the legendary tale
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and its haunting effects on not one, but two families.
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- The desire to hear more about it is seemingly insatiable.
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And that brings people out.
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And we are now into third and fourth generation
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Amityville aficionados.
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- WOMAN: Somebody's still normal living in this crazy house.
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- The story of Amityville is never going to end.
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It has already withstood 50 years, several films,
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multiple documentaries, multiple books,
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podcasts, TikTokers, YouTubers.
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I think there's always gonna be that interest.
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- They claim that it's not haunted at all.
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But I don't know.
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I find that a little hard to believe here.
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- To be clear, everybody who's lived in the home since
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has never had anything paranormal happen to them.
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So I don't know, pretty iffy to me.
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- LAURA: People like to debate these things.
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And now you have social media.
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And you've got the digital world.
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And this is the granddaddy of all ghost stories.
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And when you're talking about the supernatural,
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you either believe it or you don't believe it.
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- BECKIE-ANNE: I believe that something supernatural
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occurred in that house.
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Do I think it started with the DeFeos?
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I don't know where it happened,
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but I do not think that the Lutz story
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was completely fabricated.
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- I think it's a great story, and I think it's a story that
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will continue to be told from generation to generation.
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It's a great topic up for debate.
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- TIM: When the legend becomes fact, you print the legend.
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And that's where we're at with the Amityville case,
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that no matter how much fact we can decipher
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from what really happened and what didn't,
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the legend is always gonna be stronger.
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- BECKIE-ANNE: People think I'm obsessed with this.
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But I'm okay with it. I am obsessed with it.
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- Ronald DeFeo Jr. has died in police custody.
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- So far, the cause of death is undetermined
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until an autopsy is performed.
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- I am in Amityville right now.
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Today is the anniversary of "The Amityville Horror".
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- And this house right here is said to be
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one of the most evil locations on earth.
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- I just think it's a national landmark.
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Right there. Amityville Horror house.
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- The kids of the Lutz family said that the hauntings
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were all too real.
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- WOMAN: Please tell me you see that too.
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- That's so freakin' crazy!
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- If you're gonna try and put it all together,
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take all these pieces and put 'em all together,
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and try to make sense of it all together,
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your head would explode.
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- [giggles] - How do you end it?
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- I don't know.
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