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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:59,518 --> 00:01:01,437 Hugh downs: Jim and Tammy Faye bakker 2 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,398 were the most famous fe/e vange/isz' couple in america, 3 00:01:04,482 --> 00:01:06,442 and, by far, the most prosperous. 4 00:01:06,525 --> 00:01:08,861 Al Dale: Ken and barb/e of fe/e vange/ism. 5 00:01:08,945 --> 00:01:10,404 And they seemed honest. 6 00:01:10,488 --> 00:01:13,342 R e p 0 rt e r 1: They brought encouragement and hope to lots of people. 7 00:01:13,366 --> 00:01:14,551 Geraldo Rivera: He's the president 8 00:01:14,575 --> 00:01:16,220 of a multi-mi/iion o'o/iar religious organization 9 00:01:16,244 --> 00:01:17,870 called the praise the lord club. 10 00:01:17,954 --> 00:01:20,039 Reporter 2: Ptl also operates heritage I/I//age 11 00:01:20,122 --> 00:01:21,457 in fort mill, south Carolina. 12 00:01:21,540 --> 00:01:23,084 Reporter 3: Christian Disney world 13 00:01:23,167 --> 00:01:25,836 where ptl members can vacation with inspiration. 14 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,546 They are among the best-known figures 15 00:01:27,630 --> 00:01:29,298 in the world of television evangelism. 16 00:01:29,382 --> 00:01:31,092 But tonight they are out of business. 17 00:01:31,175 --> 00:01:32,718 Following the scandal that led 18 00:01:32,802 --> 00:01:34,762 to founder Jim bakker's resignation last week. 19 00:01:34,845 --> 00:01:37,348 There's debate about how much the bakker scandal will hurt 20 00:01:37,431 --> 00:01:39,558 all the television ministries and quiet concern... 21 00:01:39,642 --> 00:01:41,644 Modern warfare among the TV preachers. 22 00:01:41,727 --> 00:01:43,729 In this electronic age, the stakes are high 23 00:01:43,813 --> 00:01:45,415 - with millions of followers... - And recriminations. 24 00:01:45,439 --> 00:01:47,459 And caught up in the fighting are their fellow evangelists 25 00:01:47,483 --> 00:01:49,277 Jimmy swaggart, oral Roberts, Jerry falwell. 26 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,196 Now, about what some people around here are calling "pearly-gate." 27 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,157 Pearly-gate is the story of Jim and Tammy bakker. 28 00:01:55,241 --> 00:01:57,118 It's remarkably like Watergate, 29 00:01:57,201 --> 00:02:00,579 which tainted the name "politician," 30 00:02:00,663 --> 00:02:05,626 and such an episode is bound to taint the name "preacher." 31 00:02:05,710 --> 00:02:07,854 Reporter 4: The bakkers oou/o'n't even get out of their car. 32 00:02:07,878 --> 00:02:09,439 There were so many people waiting to see them 33 00:02:09,463 --> 00:02:10,607 after three months of seclusion. 34 00:02:10,631 --> 00:02:11,984 Reporter 5: Bus/oao's of tourists, 35 00:02:12,008 --> 00:02:14,427 hoping to get a glimpse of the elusive evangelists, 36 00:02:14,510 --> 00:02:16,929 but they had no better luck than the waiting newspeop/e. 37 00:02:21,267 --> 00:02:24,270 Woman: Okay, I'm gonna start by taking some of this off. 38 00:02:24,353 --> 00:02:25,604 Tammy: Okay. 39 00:02:25,688 --> 00:02:27,356 Woman: Gonna take your foundation off. 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,691 Tammy: M'Kay. 41 00:02:28,774 --> 00:02:30,693 Woman: And then we'll start fresh. 42 00:02:31,485 --> 00:02:32,987 Can you take your lips off? 43 00:02:39,827 --> 00:02:41,454 - Okay. - Do you want a little remover? 44 00:02:41,537 --> 00:02:43,998 Oh, no. That's it. 45 00:02:45,291 --> 00:02:47,209 That'll be all. They're permanently lined. 46 00:02:47,293 --> 00:02:48,627 Woman: Oh. 47 00:02:48,711 --> 00:02:51,589 And my eyes are permanently lined and my eyebrows are permanently on, 48 00:02:51,672 --> 00:02:55,009 so there's not a whole lot you can do. 49 00:02:55,092 --> 00:02:56,302 Woman: My goodness, 50 00:02:56,385 --> 00:02:57,887 - I... I didn't know. - Mm. 51 00:02:58,554 --> 00:03:00,449 Have you never done pictures without those eyelashes? 52 00:03:00,473 --> 00:03:01,640 Nope, and I never will 53 00:03:01,724 --> 00:03:03,184 because that's my trademark. 54 00:03:03,267 --> 00:03:06,645 And, you know, if I take that away, then it's not me, 55 00:03:06,729 --> 00:03:08,790 and no one's gonna wanna look at me without my trademark. 56 00:03:08,814 --> 00:03:09,982 So, I hold onto that. 57 00:03:10,066 --> 00:03:11,692 Even if we softened 'em up and kept... 58 00:03:11,776 --> 00:03:14,487 No. No, you can do anything you want, 59 00:03:14,570 --> 00:03:17,323 but my eyelashes stay right where they are. 60 00:03:17,406 --> 00:03:18,824 Woman: That's really you. 61 00:03:18,908 --> 00:03:19,950 Tammy: Mm. 62 00:03:20,451 --> 00:03:23,079 Oh, yeah, this is who I am. 63 00:03:38,761 --> 00:03:42,098 Preacher: I didn't know what the words "glory" or "hallelujah" be 64 00:03:42,181 --> 00:03:43,849 because the devil is all around us! 65 00:03:43,933 --> 00:03:45,160 Oh, yes, he is! 66 00:03:45,184 --> 00:03:47,686 And it's up to you to resist his temptations. Hallelujah! 67 00:03:49,063 --> 00:03:50,731 If you're not saved by Jesus, 68 00:03:50,815 --> 00:03:52,900 you open yourself up to demons 69 00:03:52,983 --> 00:03:56,278 and the devil will make a home in you! 70 00:03:56,362 --> 00:03:57,363 Woman: Glory to god! 71 00:03:57,446 --> 00:03:59,156 When god spoke peace to my heart, 72 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,826 I didn't know how to say glory or hallelujah, 73 00:04:01,909 --> 00:04:03,327 but I got saved! 74 00:04:03,411 --> 00:04:05,371 I leapt upon that altar. 75 00:04:05,454 --> 00:04:07,456 Jesus told me he loved me, 76 00:04:07,540 --> 00:04:09,750 and he will love you. 77 00:04:11,252 --> 00:04:14,338 He speaks through her. Say, "hallelujah!" 78 00:04:14,422 --> 00:04:15,840 Congregation: Hallelujah! 79 00:04:15,923 --> 00:04:18,759 Preacher: She is with the holy spirit right now! 80 00:04:18,843 --> 00:04:21,345 Feel the spirit! Say, "glory. 81 00:04:21,429 --> 00:04:22,638 "Glory to god." 82 00:04:22,721 --> 00:04:23,973 Congregation: Glory to god! 83 00:04:24,056 --> 00:04:26,892 Preacher: You too, sister! Feel the spirit. 84 00:04:26,976 --> 00:04:28,519 Raise your hands up, folks. 85 00:04:30,771 --> 00:04:32,273 Little Tammy: I was here. 86 00:04:32,356 --> 00:04:33,357 Here the whole time. 87 00:04:33,983 --> 00:04:36,026 Little girls go to hell for lying. 88 00:04:36,110 --> 00:04:37,736 Honest and true. 89 00:04:38,362 --> 00:04:41,031 I wanna be saved. 90 00:04:41,115 --> 00:04:44,160 If you let me come in with you, god'd love me like he's supposed to. 91 00:04:44,243 --> 00:04:46,579 There's reasons you can't be seen in church, tam. 92 00:04:46,662 --> 00:04:47,955 Grown-up reasons. 93 00:04:48,622 --> 00:04:50,624 Is it because everyone thinks you're a harlot? 94 00:04:52,126 --> 00:04:53,294 And I come from a time 95 00:04:53,377 --> 00:04:55,921 before Fred made you respectable and stuff. 96 00:04:57,465 --> 00:04:59,008 Only reason they let me back 97 00:04:59,091 --> 00:05:01,260 is 'cause nobody but me can play the piano. 98 00:05:01,343 --> 00:05:03,929 But you remind them I was divorced. 99 00:05:04,013 --> 00:05:05,431 They see you, 100 00:05:06,474 --> 00:05:08,058 all of us is going to be banished. 101 00:05:09,518 --> 00:05:11,729 The souls of all your brothers and sisters 102 00:05:11,812 --> 00:05:15,983 burning in hell because you don't listen and you can't sit still. 103 00:05:23,032 --> 00:05:24,366 Stop performing. 104 00:05:28,496 --> 00:05:30,372 You're going to hell, Tammy. 105 00:05:30,456 --> 00:05:33,918 You don't belong here. You don't belong anywhere. 106 00:05:34,001 --> 00:05:35,211 You're ugly. 107 00:05:35,711 --> 00:05:37,421 You've got a demon inside you. 108 00:05:38,714 --> 00:05:40,925 But I don't wanna go to hell. 109 00:05:41,592 --> 00:05:44,845 If they loved you, they wouldn't leave you here. 110 00:05:45,930 --> 00:05:47,032 They love me. 111 00:05:47,056 --> 00:05:49,350 They love you not. 112 00:05:52,770 --> 00:05:55,523 Jesus, come into my heart 113 00:05:55,606 --> 00:05:57,483 and forgive me my sins. 114 00:05:58,609 --> 00:06:01,278 I don't know what this is everybody's getting, 115 00:06:01,779 --> 00:06:02,947 but if it's real, 116 00:06:03,739 --> 00:06:06,951 then, please, Jesus, give that to me. 117 00:06:09,453 --> 00:06:11,455 Preacher: Amen! 118 00:06:11,539 --> 00:06:14,291 Be strong in the lord and his mighty power. 119 00:06:14,375 --> 00:06:15,751 Put on the armor of god 120 00:06:15,834 --> 00:06:19,046 so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. 121 00:06:19,129 --> 00:06:21,840 For our struggle isn't against flesh and blood, 122 00:06:21,924 --> 00:06:24,969 but against the powers of this dark world! 123 00:06:25,052 --> 00:06:26,845 Casting down imaginations 124 00:06:26,929 --> 00:06:29,431 on every high thing that exalts itself. 125 00:06:30,474 --> 00:06:32,434 - Do you feel love? - Congregation: Yes. 126 00:06:32,518 --> 00:06:34,478 Preacher: You feel it, sister! I know you feel it! 127 00:06:35,479 --> 00:06:37,064 You too, brother? 128 00:06:37,147 --> 00:06:38,816 If you feel the love, 129 00:06:38,899 --> 00:06:40,818 - say, "hallelujah!" - Congregation: Hallelujah! 130 00:06:40,901 --> 00:06:43,046 Preacher: Say, "glory to god!" Congregation: Glory to god! 131 00:06:43,070 --> 00:06:44,530 Preacher: Accept the blood! 132 00:06:44,613 --> 00:06:46,490 Feel love forever! 133 00:06:46,574 --> 00:06:47,575 Congregation: Hallelujah! 134 00:06:47,658 --> 00:06:49,076 Woman: Praise the lord! 135 00:06:49,785 --> 00:06:51,287 Are you ready to accept the love? 136 00:06:52,037 --> 00:06:53,038 Yes. 137 00:07:08,012 --> 00:07:09,054 Tammy Faye! 138 00:07:11,390 --> 00:07:14,268 I'm so sorry. I'm so, so sorry. 139 00:07:16,353 --> 00:07:17,438 No, Tammy! 140 00:07:18,063 --> 00:07:20,316 Tammy, get up. 141 00:07:20,983 --> 00:07:22,067 He is with us! 142 00:07:22,735 --> 00:07:26,280 - She's peeing herself! Praise god! - Yes! 143 00:07:26,363 --> 00:07:28,574 - Tammy, I said get up. - Woman: Shush now. 144 00:07:28,657 --> 00:07:31,410 This baby is a miracle. Don't you take her from us. 145 00:07:37,833 --> 00:07:38,917 Man: Mr. Bakker? 146 00:07:39,668 --> 00:07:40,794 Jim: Yes, sir? 147 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:43,922 Thank you. 148 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:53,682 Um, sorry. 149 00:07:56,435 --> 00:07:58,270 I would like to start with a verse. 150 00:07:58,354 --> 00:08:03,817 "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper 151 00:08:03,901 --> 00:08:08,030 "and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth." 152 00:08:08,113 --> 00:08:09,490 That is John 3, verse 2, 153 00:08:09,573 --> 00:08:11,992 and it's written right here in the good book. 154 00:08:12,493 --> 00:08:14,536 He gave me this verse last night. 155 00:08:14,620 --> 00:08:17,581 God, he came right down and he whispered it in my ear. 156 00:08:17,665 --> 00:08:19,249 He said, "Jim bakker, 157 00:08:19,333 --> 00:08:22,878 "I intend for you to thrive, 158 00:08:22,961 --> 00:08:25,214 "to live, and to love 159 00:08:25,297 --> 00:08:27,091 "in this life." 160 00:08:27,174 --> 00:08:28,634 He said it to me. 161 00:08:28,717 --> 00:08:30,010 But us christians, 162 00:08:30,969 --> 00:08:33,555 we've been taught that we're supposed to 163 00:08:34,181 --> 00:08:36,517 expect failure. 164 00:08:38,227 --> 00:08:39,770 When Jesus calls you home, 165 00:08:39,853 --> 00:08:41,605 you think you're going to get a bonus 166 00:08:41,689 --> 00:08:43,273 if you make yourself miserable? 167 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:46,944 You think if you deny yourself indoor plumbing, 168 00:08:47,027 --> 00:08:48,112 or if you don't have shoes 169 00:08:48,195 --> 00:08:50,030 on your feet... 170 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,283 I'm... I'm sorry. 171 00:08:56,328 --> 00:08:57,496 Go ahead. 172 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,669 You know, heaven, heaven is heaven, that is for sure. 173 00:09:03,752 --> 00:09:06,255 But god's hope for us 174 00:09:06,338 --> 00:09:10,092 is that we live and we thrive and we love here 175 00:09:10,175 --> 00:09:11,635 in the promised land. 176 00:09:11,719 --> 00:09:13,178 Here and now. 177 00:09:13,262 --> 00:09:17,057 Here and now, and in this very, very moment. 178 00:09:17,141 --> 00:09:18,392 Hallelujah! 179 00:09:18,475 --> 00:09:21,186 God does not want us to be poor! 180 00:09:21,270 --> 00:09:22,980 Oh, no! 181 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:26,316 He will gift the faithful with eternal life, 182 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,570 eternal love, and eternal wealth! 183 00:09:29,653 --> 00:09:33,198 Hallelujah! Praise god! Praise him! 184 00:09:36,326 --> 00:09:37,494 Be right to remember, 185 00:09:37,578 --> 00:09:40,164 "blessed be the poor," Mr. Bakker. 186 00:09:40,247 --> 00:09:41,832 Doesn't sound very blessed to me. 187 00:09:45,961 --> 00:09:49,840 You two are here to learn the ways of the lord through scripture, yeah? 188 00:09:49,923 --> 00:09:51,967 - Yes, sir. - And to spread the word of god. 189 00:09:52,050 --> 00:09:55,304 Oh, yeah. You know, I'm gonna sing the word in every tent, in every church. 190 00:09:55,387 --> 00:09:57,973 You know, god told me that that's what he wants for me. 191 00:09:59,933 --> 00:10:01,727 With makeup on your face? 192 00:10:03,061 --> 00:10:05,814 Man: Ahem. Jezebel. 193 00:10:10,402 --> 00:10:12,196 "I do my best to maintain always 194 00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:13,489 "a blameless conscience, 195 00:10:13,572 --> 00:10:15,699 "both before god and before men." 196 00:10:17,826 --> 00:10:20,412 "A man who keeps company with harlots 197 00:10:21,163 --> 00:10:22,581 "wastes his wealth." 198 00:10:22,664 --> 00:10:24,416 Proverbs 29:3. 199 00:10:24,917 --> 00:10:27,252 "Your stature is like that of a palm 200 00:10:27,336 --> 00:10:30,631 "and your breasts like clusters of fruit. 201 00:10:30,714 --> 00:10:32,424 "I will take hold of the palm tree." 202 00:10:32,508 --> 00:10:36,428 "And I will take hold of the fruit." 203 00:10:37,471 --> 00:10:39,139 That's the song of Solomon. 204 00:10:45,312 --> 00:10:47,940 Jim: I'm sorry I couldn't drive you some place nice. 205 00:10:48,023 --> 00:10:50,275 Oh, this is some place nice, Jim. 206 00:10:51,902 --> 00:10:53,487 Tell me something. Tell me a secret. 207 00:10:53,570 --> 00:10:55,364 Something that no one else knows about. 208 00:10:55,447 --> 00:10:57,950 Oh, I have no secrets. I'll tell you anything you wanna know. 209 00:10:58,033 --> 00:10:59,201 We'll start with everything. 210 00:11:00,994 --> 00:11:02,579 Okay. 211 00:11:02,663 --> 00:11:05,999 I'm the oldest of eight children and I'm a very practical person. 212 00:11:06,083 --> 00:11:07,643 And what you see is all there is of me. 213 00:11:07,709 --> 00:11:09,562 You know, I don't pretend to be something I'm not 214 00:11:09,586 --> 00:11:11,547 because what you see is all you get. 215 00:11:11,630 --> 00:11:13,006 And I love people. 216 00:11:13,090 --> 00:11:16,510 I have a genuine, genuine love for people. 217 00:11:16,593 --> 00:11:18,512 And I hurt when people hurt, 218 00:11:18,595 --> 00:11:21,431 and probably a little more dramatic than people would like me to be. 219 00:11:21,515 --> 00:11:23,600 But I enjoy that. That's just who I am. 220 00:11:24,852 --> 00:11:27,312 I've never met anyone quite like you, Tammy Faye. 221 00:11:30,357 --> 00:11:31,400 Okay. 222 00:11:31,483 --> 00:11:34,278 So, um, do you have any secrets, Jim? 223 00:11:35,737 --> 00:11:38,323 Well, one or two. 224 00:11:39,366 --> 00:11:40,617 Well, tell me. 225 00:11:41,285 --> 00:11:44,872 Well, before god found me, I wanted to be a radio deejay. 226 00:11:46,915 --> 00:11:47,958 -Yes. 227 00:11:49,001 --> 00:11:52,045 I used to love to make people dance. 228 00:11:52,546 --> 00:11:53,547 Have fun. 229 00:11:54,381 --> 00:11:55,966 Little Richard. 230 00:11:56,049 --> 00:11:59,052 And buddy Holly and... 231 00:11:59,136 --> 00:12:00,888 Oh, and fats domino. 232 00:12:02,431 --> 00:12:04,266 What happened? Why didn't you do it, Jim? 233 00:12:06,351 --> 00:12:07,895 Never mind that. 234 00:12:07,978 --> 00:12:09,021 Tell me. 235 00:12:10,188 --> 00:12:12,232 Um, I don't think... 236 00:12:14,985 --> 00:12:17,613 Well, all right. I'll tell you, Tammy. Um... 237 00:12:18,113 --> 00:12:20,532 Two years ago, I was on a date 238 00:12:20,616 --> 00:12:21,885 with my girlfriend, Sandy, and... 239 00:12:21,909 --> 00:12:22,910 - Mm. - Oh, no, 240 00:12:22,993 --> 00:12:24,453 with my girlfriend at the time. 241 00:12:24,536 --> 00:12:26,371 - Mm. - But, anyhoo, 242 00:12:26,455 --> 00:12:29,082 I borrowed my daddy's car to take her out, 243 00:12:29,166 --> 00:12:32,085 and there was all this snow on the ground 244 00:12:32,169 --> 00:12:35,756 and fats was singing blueberry hill 245 00:12:36,757 --> 00:12:37,883 soloud 246 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,511 and I... I was having these urges 247 00:12:41,595 --> 00:12:43,722 that only the devil would approve of 248 00:12:43,805 --> 00:12:46,433 and I lost control of the car. 249 00:12:50,020 --> 00:12:51,939 And I ran over a little boy, 250 00:12:52,648 --> 00:12:55,067 little Jimmy summerfield. 251 00:12:55,150 --> 00:12:57,152 I ruptured Jimmy summerfield's lung... 252 00:12:57,235 --> 00:12:59,780 With my daddy's tire. 253 00:12:59,863 --> 00:13:01,198 I didn't sleep all night. 254 00:13:01,281 --> 00:13:03,909 I was just up worried sick about that boy dying. 255 00:13:03,992 --> 00:13:05,702 So, I... 256 00:13:05,786 --> 00:13:07,204 I made a bargain with god. 257 00:13:07,287 --> 00:13:09,122 I said to him, 258 00:13:09,206 --> 00:13:11,667 "I will forsake my dream of being a deejay. 259 00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:15,045 "I will stop peddling in rock and roll 260 00:13:15,128 --> 00:13:20,592 "and I'll dedicate my life to him and him alone. 261 00:13:20,676 --> 00:13:23,178 "If he sees fit to save that boy's life, 262 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,974 "he will win two souls right then and there." 263 00:13:29,059 --> 00:13:31,478 And what happened to Jimmy summerfield? 264 00:13:31,979 --> 00:13:33,021 He lived. 265 00:13:33,105 --> 00:13:34,481 -Yes. 266 00:13:34,564 --> 00:13:36,483 - Praise be to god. - Yes, praise him. 267 00:13:42,447 --> 00:13:43,865 You still like me? 268 00:13:44,533 --> 00:13:46,910 Oh, sure, I do, Jim. 269 00:13:47,536 --> 00:13:50,122 Oh, even more now that you were honest with me. 270 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,751 I'll tell ya, I do miss dancing. 271 00:13:57,087 --> 00:14:00,674 Lfouno' my thrill 272 00:14:01,591 --> 00:14:05,095 on blueberry hill 273 00:14:06,388 --> 00:14:11,184 I found my thrill 274 00:14:11,268 --> 00:14:14,312 I/I/hen lfound you 275 00:14:14,396 --> 00:14:15,605 You're so loud. 276 00:14:16,481 --> 00:14:17,482 Dance with me, Jim. 277 00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:19,651 Here? No, I can't. 278 00:14:19,735 --> 00:14:22,154 In front of all these people? Like, no... 279 00:14:22,237 --> 00:14:23,280 Please? 280 00:14:27,117 --> 00:14:30,620 The moon stood still 281 00:14:30,704 --> 00:14:34,583 on blueberry hill 282 00:14:34,666 --> 00:14:38,712 and lingered until 283 00:14:39,504 --> 00:14:42,883 My dreams came true 284 00:14:51,808 --> 00:14:53,518 Oh, we can't. 285 00:14:53,602 --> 00:14:54,895 I know. 286 00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:02,152 - We can't. - I know. 287 00:15:06,281 --> 00:15:08,950 Oh. Oh, we can't. 288 00:15:11,286 --> 00:15:12,287 I know. 289 00:15:16,708 --> 00:15:17,793 Yeah! 290 00:15:19,795 --> 00:15:20,879 What'd you do? 291 00:15:20,962 --> 00:15:23,840 Hello, mother. This is Jim bakker, 292 00:15:23,924 --> 00:15:25,634 my husband. 293 00:15:25,717 --> 00:15:27,427 Jim: Hello, mother. 294 00:15:27,511 --> 00:15:32,224 Oh, it's such a blessing to finally meet you. 295 00:15:39,439 --> 00:15:40,440 Tammy: No. 296 00:15:40,524 --> 00:15:42,275 No, mother, we can't go back to school. 297 00:15:42,359 --> 00:15:44,611 They have a rule against students marrying one another. 298 00:15:44,694 --> 00:15:46,547 Did you know they had that rule when you did this? 299 00:15:46,571 --> 00:15:49,574 If I know the two of you, you're just gonna love Jim. 300 00:15:49,658 --> 00:15:51,076 Oh, he's so motivated. 301 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:52,702 He has so many big ideas. 302 00:15:52,786 --> 00:15:54,162 Did you know? 303 00:16:05,423 --> 00:16:08,844 Well, you can educate yourself right out of a relationship with god. 304 00:16:08,927 --> 00:16:10,178 He has a plan for us. 305 00:16:10,804 --> 00:16:13,181 - God or that Jim boy? - God. 306 00:16:14,141 --> 00:16:15,934 What'd he tell ya to do this time? 307 00:16:16,017 --> 00:16:19,563 Come spring, me and Jim are going to be traveling preachers, 308 00:16:19,646 --> 00:16:21,356 bringing god's love to all people. 309 00:16:21,439 --> 00:16:24,276 Anyone who's hurting or they feel like they've been left out. 310 00:16:24,359 --> 00:16:26,236 Jim will preach and I'll sing. 311 00:16:26,319 --> 00:16:29,489 And we'll be like oral Roberts and his wife. 312 00:16:29,573 --> 00:16:32,075 Oral Roberts went to college. 313 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:34,744 He has one named for him. 314 00:16:34,828 --> 00:16:36,997 God said that we're supposed to have a good life. 315 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,457 That way, we can help bring his love to all people. 316 00:16:39,541 --> 00:16:41,918 There's a limit to god's love, Tammy Faye. 317 00:16:43,003 --> 00:16:44,212 Tammy and Jim: No. 318 00:16:44,296 --> 00:16:48,425 No, there's no limit to god's love, Mrs. Grover, 319 00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:51,595 and there's no limit to Tammy Faye and I either. 320 00:16:51,678 --> 00:16:53,180 We're soldiers in Christ. 321 00:16:53,263 --> 00:16:56,099 We've been called to serve in a very real way. 322 00:16:56,183 --> 00:16:58,143 God smiles on a husband and wife. 323 00:16:58,226 --> 00:17:00,478 "As a young man marries a young woman, 324 00:17:00,562 --> 00:17:03,190 "so will your builder marry you; 325 00:17:03,273 --> 00:17:06,902 "as a bridegroom rejoices in his bride, 326 00:17:06,985 --> 00:17:10,238 "so will your god rejoice in you." 327 00:17:10,322 --> 00:17:11,781 Isaiah 62:5. 328 00:17:15,035 --> 00:17:16,578 Jim: It's something we do. 329 00:17:28,965 --> 00:17:31,551 Fred said that we could stay until the weather changes. 330 00:17:33,178 --> 00:17:35,013 Got some bubbles at the swap meet. 331 00:17:39,643 --> 00:17:41,102 I'm sorry, tam. 332 00:17:43,396 --> 00:17:45,232 I feel like I'm letting you down. 333 00:17:46,524 --> 00:17:48,318 She doesn't like me. 334 00:17:49,027 --> 00:17:51,696 - No, Jim. - No, she doesn't. 335 00:17:53,156 --> 00:17:55,075 Of course she likes you. 336 00:17:58,578 --> 00:17:59,788 Tammy: Oh. 337 00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:07,837 It makes Tammy sad to see you so sad. 338 00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:10,840 How's there supposed to be bubbles 339 00:18:10,924 --> 00:18:13,426 if there isn't enough water to work up the bubbles? 340 00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:16,137 Oh, I can work up the bubbles, Jim. 341 00:18:16,221 --> 00:18:19,432 All I gotta do is dunk my hand. 342 00:18:21,935 --> 00:18:24,354 And I swirl... 343 00:18:29,734 --> 00:18:31,778 And swirl. 344 00:18:37,617 --> 00:18:39,097 Am I doing that all right? 345 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,829 Jim: Uh-huh. 346 00:18:53,508 --> 00:18:55,760 Well, hello there, Tammy Faye. 347 00:18:57,637 --> 00:18:59,264 Hello, mommy. 348 00:18:59,347 --> 00:19:01,308 What are you doing with those things? 349 00:19:01,391 --> 00:19:03,536 Well, we're gonna use these puppets as part of our sermon 350 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,353 and show the kids how wonderful god is. 351 00:19:05,437 --> 00:19:06,872 And if we can get enough children to come, 352 00:19:06,896 --> 00:19:08,499 they'll bring their mothers and their fathers. 353 00:19:08,523 --> 00:19:10,608 And before you know it, we'll have our own church. 354 00:19:14,863 --> 00:19:18,033 Have you counted your blessings today, Tammy Faye? 355 00:19:18,116 --> 00:19:19,993 No, not yet, susie. 356 00:19:20,076 --> 00:19:23,371 Time to count your blessings, for they are plentiful. 357 00:19:24,039 --> 00:19:27,459 Okay, well, thank you for my husband. 358 00:19:27,542 --> 00:19:30,920 Oh, you're so welcome, Tammy. 359 00:19:31,755 --> 00:19:34,257 And thank you for mother's understanding, 360 00:19:34,341 --> 00:19:35,842 even if she doesn't understand. 361 00:19:35,925 --> 00:19:38,303 Oh. You're welcome. 362 00:19:40,180 --> 00:19:43,141 And thank you, god, for love. 363 00:19:59,824 --> 00:20:00,825 Hmm. 364 00:20:07,415 --> 00:20:10,418 Jim! Whose car is this? 365 00:20:13,213 --> 00:20:16,591 Get in. Get in. Come on. 366 00:20:16,674 --> 00:20:17,675 Tammy: Okay. 367 00:20:18,676 --> 00:20:20,720 Roll that window up. I got the heat on. 368 00:20:21,888 --> 00:20:23,181 This fine vehicle 369 00:20:23,264 --> 00:20:26,309 with the leather interior and the chrome on the wheels 370 00:20:26,393 --> 00:20:30,063 is a gift from god for us to do his work. 371 00:20:33,316 --> 00:20:35,777 But how can we afford it, Jim bakker? 372 00:20:37,112 --> 00:20:38,780 Who is this? 373 00:20:38,863 --> 00:20:40,407 I'm susie moppet. 374 00:20:40,490 --> 00:20:43,660 Aren't you cute? Well, do you know about god, susie? 375 00:20:43,743 --> 00:20:44,828 Oh, I do. 376 00:20:44,911 --> 00:20:48,331 Well, god has canceled the claim of poverty 377 00:20:48,415 --> 00:20:50,208 and deprivation in our lives 378 00:20:50,291 --> 00:20:53,128 and he has placed all the powers of heaven 379 00:20:53,211 --> 00:20:56,172 and the first bank of international falls, Minnesota, 380 00:20:56,256 --> 00:20:57,757 at our disposal. 381 00:20:57,841 --> 00:21:00,093 Oh. 382 00:21:03,888 --> 00:21:07,392 Oh, this is the nicest car I've ever seen, Jim. 383 00:21:07,475 --> 00:21:10,311 "Everything works for good for them that love god.“ 384 00:21:10,395 --> 00:21:11,479 everything. 385 00:21:12,689 --> 00:21:15,400 But you have to have faith in him 386 00:21:15,483 --> 00:21:18,528 and in me and in us, 'cause if you don't, 387 00:21:18,611 --> 00:21:20,447 I don't know what I'm doing here. 388 00:21:20,530 --> 00:21:22,365 - Oh, I do, Jim. - You do? 389 00:21:24,659 --> 00:21:25,910 Does she, susie? 390 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:28,788 Oh, she do, Jim! 391 00:21:28,872 --> 00:21:32,000 She really, really do! 392 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:43,511 Jim: You sure... 393 00:21:43,595 --> 00:21:46,014 It's all right here. In psalm 37:4. 394 00:21:46,097 --> 00:21:48,183 "Take delight in the lord 395 00:21:48,266 --> 00:21:52,520 "and he will give you your heart's desires." 396 00:21:52,604 --> 00:21:56,149 God starts turning those wheels in your life! 397 00:21:56,232 --> 00:21:57,392 Susie: You better believe it! 398 00:21:57,442 --> 00:21:59,819 - Jim: Oh, now who is this? - Oh, I'm susie moppet. 399 00:21:59,903 --> 00:22:01,696 Well, hello there, susie moppet. 400 00:22:01,779 --> 00:22:03,448 Susie: Hi! Nice to meet you! 401 00:22:04,699 --> 00:22:06,951 Shejumped up. 402 00:22:08,077 --> 00:22:10,038 Susie: Yes, Jesus loves me 403 00:22:10,121 --> 00:22:11,789 yes, Jesus loves me 404 00:22:11,873 --> 00:22:13,416 yes, Jesus loves me 405 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:17,337 both: The Bible tells me so 406 00:22:17,420 --> 00:22:19,714 hitch up your wagon to god. 407 00:22:19,797 --> 00:22:21,424 He's greater than any problem. 408 00:22:21,508 --> 00:22:23,110 Us christians, we're just stuck in the mud 409 00:22:23,134 --> 00:22:25,178 like that old game. Remember that old kids' game? 410 00:22:25,261 --> 00:22:27,639 God wants us just to run free. 411 00:22:31,476 --> 00:22:33,645 Well, this is a fun song, boys and girls. 412 00:22:33,728 --> 00:22:35,438 So, hit it, Allie. 413 00:22:35,522 --> 00:22:36,790 Jesus loves me 414 00:22:36,814 --> 00:22:39,901 7'his lknow for the Bible tells me so 415 00:22:39,984 --> 00:22:41,653 Yes, Jesus loves me 416 00:22:41,736 --> 00:22:44,822 alli e: The Bible tells me so 417 00:22:47,492 --> 00:22:49,261 An n o u n c e r: You're watching pat robertson 418 00:22:49,285 --> 00:22:51,120 on the Christian broadcasting network. 419 00:22:51,204 --> 00:22:54,707 - Jim: Come on. - Season all your grain offerings... 420 00:22:54,791 --> 00:22:55,833 Oh, come on! 421 00:22:55,917 --> 00:22:57,919 - With salt. - Okay, okay, okay. 422 00:22:58,419 --> 00:23:01,548 Do not leave the salt of the co venant of your god 423 00:23:01,631 --> 00:23:03,424 out of your grain offerings. 424 00:23:03,508 --> 00:23:04,759 Add salt 425 00:23:05,426 --> 00:23:06,844 to all your offerings. 426 00:23:06,928 --> 00:23:10,098 You know, he's not terribly dynamic for a charismatic. 427 00:23:10,181 --> 00:23:12,433 Jim: I know, but people just eat him up. 428 00:23:12,517 --> 00:23:14,394 Focus on the foundation. 429 00:23:14,477 --> 00:23:16,271 - Tammy, did you see that? - Hmm? 430 00:23:16,354 --> 00:23:18,565 Watch close. Every now and again, 431 00:23:18,648 --> 00:23:20,650 he glances up at the camera. 432 00:23:20,733 --> 00:23:23,778 It is upon him that you can place your strong... 433 00:23:23,861 --> 00:23:25,238 - See that? - You're right. 434 00:23:25,321 --> 00:23:29,534 He's talking right to you in the comfort of your living room. 435 00:23:29,617 --> 00:23:31,578 Well, if I could have watched a preacher 436 00:23:31,661 --> 00:23:34,581 on TV in my own home telling me about god, 437 00:23:34,664 --> 00:23:36,457 that would've made such a difference. 438 00:23:36,541 --> 00:23:38,084 Jim: Mm. Amen. 439 00:23:39,127 --> 00:23:42,964 Especially from someone who preaches as good as you do, Jim. 440 00:23:46,092 --> 00:23:47,510 - You think? - Oh, yeah. 441 00:23:47,594 --> 00:23:49,596 Blow your home over? 442 00:23:50,221 --> 00:23:51,848 You know, we could do that. 443 00:23:53,349 --> 00:23:56,519 You're so much more handsome than he is. 444 00:23:57,895 --> 00:23:58,938 Keep calling. 445 00:23:59,022 --> 00:24:01,584 - Jim: Gotta do my homework, baby. - The numbers are on your screen. 446 00:24:01,608 --> 00:24:03,192 Mm. Stop it. 447 00:24:03,276 --> 00:24:04,569 You're distracting me. 448 00:24:04,652 --> 00:24:07,739 Voices of angels. Lhope you enjoy them, 449 00:24:07,822 --> 00:24:08,823 and we have a variety... 450 00:24:09,741 --> 00:24:12,660 Well, we'll have to call the preacher down in Raleigh 451 00:24:12,744 --> 00:24:14,746 and let him know we got a better gig down here. 452 00:24:14,829 --> 00:24:16,706 Don't make him cross at you, Jim. 453 00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:18,374 We wanna have him want us back. 454 00:24:18,458 --> 00:24:19,500 Jim: Hold on. 455 00:24:20,084 --> 00:24:21,085 Tammy: What? 456 00:24:21,586 --> 00:24:22,587 Jim: The car. 457 00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:28,134 I... I parked it here. 458 00:24:28,217 --> 00:24:30,970 Yep, you sure did. Uh-huh. 459 00:24:32,555 --> 00:24:33,616 Well, must've got stolen... 460 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,807 What? 461 00:24:34,891 --> 00:24:37,101 Jim: Oh. 462 00:24:38,227 --> 00:24:39,228 Oh, maybe it got towed. 463 00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:42,899 No, I know I made the payments, so... 464 00:24:44,317 --> 00:24:45,818 I think I made the payments. 465 00:24:45,902 --> 00:24:46,944 Oh, Jim. 466 00:24:47,028 --> 00:24:48,863 Maybe they didn't get the payments or maybe... 467 00:24:48,946 --> 00:24:50,990 - Oh, no. - I don't think I forgot. 468 00:24:51,074 --> 00:24:52,867 - I think I... - Okay. 469 00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:55,244 - Oh, Tammy, I don't know... - We need to pray. 470 00:24:55,328 --> 00:24:57,497 Oh, did I? Yes, yes, yes. 471 00:24:57,580 --> 00:24:58,581 Tammy: Oh, lord, 472 00:24:58,665 --> 00:25:00,667 we are good soldiers. 473 00:25:00,750 --> 00:25:02,394 - We are here for good. - Oh, I'm sorry, Tammy. 474 00:25:02,418 --> 00:25:04,188 - We are here for your good. - I'm so, so, so sorry. 475 00:25:04,212 --> 00:25:05,564 And we ask that you shine your light... 476 00:25:05,588 --> 00:25:07,399 Jim: I shouldn't have put so much faith in that bank. 477 00:25:07,423 --> 00:25:08,675 God, I'm so sorry. 478 00:25:08,758 --> 00:25:09,967 Jesus, I'm so sorry. 479 00:25:10,051 --> 00:25:11,636 Tammy, I'm sorry. 480 00:25:11,719 --> 00:25:12,804 I'm sorry. 481 00:25:13,471 --> 00:25:15,014 Jim. 482 00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:18,643 Man: Hey. 483 00:25:18,726 --> 00:25:21,104 Hey, I saw you preach last night. 484 00:25:21,187 --> 00:25:24,065 Those puppets of yours filled me. Deeply. 485 00:25:24,148 --> 00:25:25,608 Tammy: Oh, thank you. 486 00:25:25,692 --> 00:25:26,693 Jim: Thank you. 487 00:25:26,776 --> 00:25:28,194 I'm staying in the room next door. 488 00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:30,863 - Can I help you with that? - No! 489 00:25:30,947 --> 00:25:32,782 Well, that's very kind of you... 490 00:25:33,950 --> 00:25:36,619 But we don't rightly know where we're carrying it to. 491 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:38,871 I work at a local television station 492 00:25:38,955 --> 00:25:41,040 with a minister by the name of Mr. Pat robertson. 493 00:25:45,211 --> 00:25:46,546 He'd get a kick outta you two. 494 00:25:51,926 --> 00:25:55,513 Woman 1: Yes, honey, and that's $25 a pledge. 495 00:25:55,596 --> 00:25:58,850 Woman 2: Cbn. 496 00:25:58,933 --> 00:26:00,601 Can I take your pledge? 497 00:26:02,395 --> 00:26:04,313 Jim: Well, I'm trying to focus. 498 00:26:06,065 --> 00:26:07,692 And you're just distracting me. 499 00:26:07,775 --> 00:26:10,445 You make me laugh. I was happy to find... 500 00:26:12,947 --> 00:26:14,949 Jim: You're so funny, Graham. 501 00:26:15,032 --> 00:26:16,451 - Jim? - Hey, honey. 502 00:26:16,534 --> 00:26:18,536 Hi, I got a new outfit for the show. 503 00:26:18,619 --> 00:26:20,288 Oh, yes, I love it. 504 00:26:20,788 --> 00:26:22,498 - Jim. - Jim: Yeah? 505 00:26:22,582 --> 00:26:23,916 You didn't even look at me. 506 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,168 Jim: Oh. 507 00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:27,003 I'm sorry, tam. 508 00:26:27,086 --> 00:26:28,254 Have I ever told you 509 00:26:28,337 --> 00:26:32,091 that I am the luckiest man on the face of this planet? 510 00:26:32,175 --> 00:26:33,902 Have I ever told you that? 511 00:26:33,926 --> 00:26:35,928 - Not today. - Not today, no? 512 00:26:36,012 --> 00:26:39,140 I'm going to tell you something, too, but I'm not gonna tell you right now. 513 00:26:39,223 --> 00:26:40,391 You're gonna have to wait. 514 00:26:40,475 --> 00:26:42,101 - No, no, no! - Yeah. 515 00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:44,520 You just have to. 516 00:26:44,604 --> 00:26:45,855 And there he is. 517 00:26:45,938 --> 00:26:47,482 Every time I try and talk to him, 518 00:26:47,565 --> 00:26:49,692 he just keeps making excuses not to see me. 519 00:26:49,776 --> 00:26:53,279 Well, my surprise is gonna make you feel so much better. 520 00:26:54,322 --> 00:26:55,573 I'll be right back. 521 00:26:55,656 --> 00:26:56,657 No, Jim, 522 00:26:56,741 --> 00:26:58,469 - the show's about to start. - Jim: Hey, pat! 523 00:26:58,493 --> 00:27:00,119 - Pat: Jim! Hey! - Jim: You got a second? 524 00:27:01,662 --> 00:27:03,390 Have you given more thought to our show idea? 525 00:27:03,414 --> 00:27:04,999 Man: All right, let me get you set up. 526 00:27:05,082 --> 00:27:07,562 Pat: Don't you already have your hands full with those puppets? 527 00:27:07,627 --> 00:27:09,796 Biggest earner we got. You stay focused. 528 00:27:09,879 --> 00:27:11,422 Jim: Well, yes, of course, 529 00:27:11,506 --> 00:27:13,758 but you shut down cbn at 10 pm. 530 00:27:13,841 --> 00:27:15,259 Why not do a late-night show? 531 00:27:15,343 --> 00:27:17,345 Just kind of like Johnny Carson for christians? 532 00:27:17,428 --> 00:27:19,514 No, christians don't stay up that late. 533 00:27:19,597 --> 00:27:20,640 Oh, I do. 534 00:27:20,723 --> 00:27:22,367 - I don't sleep at all. - Pat: What about tam? 535 00:27:22,391 --> 00:27:24,268 Well, she's gonna miss you at night. 536 00:27:24,352 --> 00:27:26,354 Jim: Tammy loves the idea. Man: Tammy, we're on. 537 00:27:26,437 --> 00:27:29,607 Man 2: Okay, we're live in five, four, three. 538 00:27:33,528 --> 00:27:34,987 Oh, hello, everybody! 539 00:27:35,071 --> 00:27:37,949 Children: Hi, Tammy! 540 00:27:38,032 --> 00:27:40,493 Well, Jim is a little bit late today, 541 00:27:40,576 --> 00:27:43,246 so, um, the theme of today's show, 542 00:27:43,329 --> 00:27:45,248 how about we make it all about the importance 543 00:27:45,331 --> 00:27:47,792 of being places on time, hmm? 544 00:27:47,875 --> 00:27:49,919 Oh, no! Oh, no! 545 00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:51,546 - I'm sorry, kids! - There he is. 546 00:27:51,629 --> 00:27:53,840 I'm sorry, Tammy! I'm sorry, everybody. 547 00:27:53,923 --> 00:27:57,468 I was just having a little, fun little chat 548 00:27:57,552 --> 00:28:00,096 with uncle patjust behind the barn. 549 00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:02,640 Oh, yeah, and what'd you two fellas get up to without me? 550 00:28:02,723 --> 00:28:05,351 Oh, well, it's actually something all you kids... 551 00:28:05,434 --> 00:28:06,644 - Mm-hmm. - Are gonna wanna 552 00:28:06,727 --> 00:28:08,145 tell your parents about. 553 00:28:08,229 --> 00:28:12,441 It's a brand-new show just for them 554 00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:16,112 right here on cbn! 555 00:28:16,195 --> 00:28:17,697 Well, amen! 556 00:28:17,780 --> 00:28:20,783 Jim: And it's gonna be called the 700 club. 557 00:28:20,867 --> 00:28:22,451 Tammy: Now, isn't that happy news? 558 00:28:22,535 --> 00:28:25,371 Hallelujah! Yes! Yes! 559 00:28:25,454 --> 00:28:26,455 - Susie: Hi, kids. - Oh. 560 00:28:26,539 --> 00:28:30,126 All: Hi, susie moppet. 561 00:28:30,209 --> 00:28:32,920 Hi, Jim. Today's a happy day. 562 00:28:33,004 --> 00:28:34,839 Isn't it, kids? And you know why, Jim? 563 00:28:34,922 --> 00:28:36,591 Why, susie? 564 00:28:36,674 --> 00:28:39,552 Well, you're gonna have a new show, kids. 565 00:28:39,635 --> 00:28:41,470 Jim: Yes. 566 00:28:41,554 --> 00:28:44,515 Susie: And Jim is gonna have 567 00:28:45,099 --> 00:28:46,183 a baby. 568 00:28:48,311 --> 00:28:50,021 Look at Tammy, she's right behind you. 569 00:28:53,441 --> 00:28:54,984 We're gonna have a baby? 570 00:28:55,985 --> 00:28:58,279 Isn't the world just full of blessings, Jim? 571 00:28:58,362 --> 00:29:00,323 Huh? 572 00:29:00,406 --> 00:29:02,283 That's right, folks! 573 00:29:05,703 --> 00:29:07,455 We're gonna have a baby! 574 00:29:07,538 --> 00:29:08,956 Oh-ho-ho! 575 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,168 Jim: It's not a drag to be saved 576 00:29:12,251 --> 00:29:14,003 it's not a boring thing. 577 00:29:14,086 --> 00:29:17,048 7'hat's rel/gion. See, you got 'em mixed up. 578 00:29:17,131 --> 00:29:19,383 Rel/gion is boring and dull, 579 00:29:19,467 --> 00:29:22,929 but Jesus is life. 580 00:29:23,012 --> 00:29:25,431 Now, my next guest is a new friend to the 700 club, 581 00:29:26,015 --> 00:29:29,560 and / can smell his chicken, yes. 582 00:29:29,644 --> 00:29:34,857 7'he colonel, colonel Sanders in the 700 club! 583 00:29:41,447 --> 00:29:45,576 Oh, the crowd appreciates you. I think they like you. 584 00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:47,578 I think the y're wanting some of that chicken. 585 00:29:47,662 --> 00:29:49,014 Jim: / guess the housewives of america 586 00:29:49,038 --> 00:29:50,518 are thanking you for fixing dinner... 587 00:29:53,626 --> 00:29:54,710 Hello. 588 00:29:54,794 --> 00:29:56,295 Tammy: Oh, hl, /I//om. 589 00:29:56,379 --> 00:29:59,674 Do you know what time it is? Why are you calling so late? 590 00:29:59,757 --> 00:30:02,551 Well, Jim says that I need to rest for my pregnancy, 591 00:30:02,635 --> 00:30:06,097 but, oh, you know me. I can't rest, 592 00:30:06,180 --> 00:30:08,349 so thought I'd call my mother to keep me company. 593 00:30:08,432 --> 00:30:10,309 I never got a rest. 594 00:30:10,393 --> 00:30:12,561 Oh, I miss working, though. You know? 595 00:30:12,645 --> 00:30:15,523 It's so lonesome at home all by myself. 596 00:30:15,606 --> 00:30:18,067 Wo w/ oh, wo w/ 597 00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:19,485 and he barely touches me anymore. 598 00:30:19,568 --> 00:30:21,946 And when he does, it's not enthusiastic. 599 00:30:23,447 --> 00:30:26,993 Well, it's up to the wife to make herself desirable for her husband. 600 00:30:27,076 --> 00:30:29,495 I do that. Oh, I do. 601 00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:32,164 He's just really busy. 602 00:30:32,248 --> 00:30:33,874 Jim: Really? 603 00:30:33,958 --> 00:30:36,127 So, are you watching Jim's show? 604 00:30:36,210 --> 00:30:38,421 7'hat new talk show of his is on. 605 00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:39,839 Serving god don't feel like 606 00:30:39,922 --> 00:30:41,841 it should be a money-making opportunity. 607 00:30:41,924 --> 00:30:42,925 Tammy: Yeah. 608 00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:45,761 You know, I wanna do what he's doing. 609 00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:48,889 And I wanna sing and not in a puppet voice. 610 00:30:48,973 --> 00:30:51,642 And I wanna talk about issues that affect people's daily lives. 611 00:30:51,726 --> 00:30:53,328 And there's so much that we don't talk about. 612 00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:54,353 There's so many secrets, 613 00:30:54,437 --> 00:30:57,690 and, you know, everyone says I'm supposed to be tireo', 614 00:30:58,399 --> 00:31:00,401 but I just wanna love people. 615 00:31:00,484 --> 00:31:01,944 You got me out of bed 616 00:31:02,028 --> 00:31:03,738 to talk to me about how you're not tired. 617 00:31:03,821 --> 00:31:05,656 Does that make sense to you? 618 00:31:09,785 --> 00:31:13,039 - Sorry. - Night night, tam. Take care. 619 00:31:13,122 --> 00:31:15,124 Tammy: Good n/ght, ll/lom. I love you. 620 00:31:16,417 --> 00:31:17,752 Okay, bye-bye. 621 00:31:20,921 --> 00:31:21,922 Fred: Who was it? 622 00:31:24,842 --> 00:31:25,926 Rachel: That was tam. 623 00:31:26,010 --> 00:31:27,011 Fred: How is she? 624 00:31:27,094 --> 00:31:29,072 Rachel: Well, it seems like she's having some trouble 625 00:31:29,096 --> 00:31:30,598 with the pregnancy. What'd I miss? 626 00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:31,766 Jim: A second childhood 627 00:31:31,849 --> 00:31:33,243 Fred: I don't know. The sound was off. 628 00:31:33,267 --> 00:31:34,685 You love kids, don't you? 629 00:31:34,769 --> 00:31:36,455 - You love children. - Colonel Sanders: Ldo. 630 00:31:36,479 --> 00:31:39,899 Iha ve five grandchildren and 74 great-grandchildren. 631 00:31:39,982 --> 00:31:42,068 I/I/ow./ - 632 00:31:42,985 --> 00:31:44,987 I bet the y're spoiled do you spoil them? 633 00:31:53,245 --> 00:31:55,247 Oh, dear lord god. 634 00:31:57,917 --> 00:32:01,504 What doors are you gonna open up for me to walk through? 635 00:32:04,757 --> 00:32:06,884 What can I do for happiness? 636 00:32:09,970 --> 00:32:12,098 Oh, / wanna get back on TV 637 00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:16,811 I'm going back to work for you. 638 00:32:36,956 --> 00:32:38,332 Well... 639 00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:41,502 What do you think he pays himself? 640 00:32:41,585 --> 00:32:42,586 Oh. 641 00:32:45,297 --> 00:32:46,608 I should have worn the other dress. 642 00:32:46,632 --> 00:32:48,008 Jim: You look fine, honey. 643 00:32:50,678 --> 00:32:51,887 Jim: There he is. 644 00:32:51,971 --> 00:32:54,098 Tammy: Dede's wearing a mink. That's a real mink! 645 00:32:54,181 --> 00:32:55,558 And it's warm outside. 646 00:32:55,641 --> 00:32:58,102 You know, we... We paid for all this, Tammy. 647 00:32:58,185 --> 00:33:01,188 You and me, from the swimming pool to the hot tub, 648 00:33:02,064 --> 00:33:04,233 and dede's dead animal. We paid for it. 649 00:33:04,316 --> 00:33:07,027 Well, the fruit isn't dropping our way, that's for sure. 650 00:33:07,111 --> 00:33:09,822 My little stars! 651 00:33:10,614 --> 00:33:12,032 Hello. Hey, pat! 652 00:33:12,116 --> 00:33:13,426 - What a beautiful place! - How are you? 653 00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:15,286 - Oh, thank you, thank you! - Paradise! 654 00:33:15,369 --> 00:33:18,414 Look at that little baby, too. Positively a chipmunk. 655 00:33:18,497 --> 00:33:19,874 Thanks. 656 00:33:19,957 --> 00:33:20,958 Hey, that's a nice coat. 657 00:33:21,041 --> 00:33:22,293 Oh, thank you, dear. 658 00:33:22,376 --> 00:33:23,377 Must be hot though. 659 00:33:23,460 --> 00:33:24,545 No, not in the least. 660 00:33:24,628 --> 00:33:26,463 Oh. 661 00:33:26,547 --> 00:33:27,858 Pat: Hey, Jim, I've been thinking. 662 00:33:27,882 --> 00:33:30,009 - Jim: Mm-hmm? - Have you given any thought 663 00:33:30,092 --> 00:33:32,386 to taking some time off to be with your family? 664 00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:35,097 These times do not come back. 665 00:33:35,181 --> 00:33:36,182 - No. - Trust me, 666 00:33:36,265 --> 00:33:37,576 they are precious, precious times. 667 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,018 - Pat: No, sir. - Jim: Mm. 668 00:33:39,101 --> 00:33:42,021 I can do the 700 club for a time. 669 00:33:42,855 --> 00:33:46,150 We can air reruns of Jim and tammyfor a few weeks. 670 00:33:46,817 --> 00:33:48,694 - Tammy: Hmm. - A couple of months even. 671 00:33:48,777 --> 00:33:50,696 What do you think? 672 00:33:52,364 --> 00:33:54,575 It's very... It's very kind of you, uncle pat. 673 00:33:54,658 --> 00:33:56,202 Thank you. 674 00:33:56,285 --> 00:34:00,122 But, you know, I got that bond going with my audience, you know? 675 00:34:00,206 --> 00:34:01,373 We're on the up-and-up. 676 00:34:01,457 --> 00:34:03,500 I couldn't think of abandoning them right now. 677 00:34:03,584 --> 00:34:05,628 - Well, we'll think about it. - Oh, pat, pat, pat! 678 00:34:05,711 --> 00:34:07,046 - Pat: Oh. - He came. 679 00:34:07,129 --> 00:34:09,381 Tammy: Oh, my goodness! 680 00:34:14,386 --> 00:34:15,804 - Pat: Hello! Hello! - Honey. 681 00:34:15,888 --> 00:34:16,948 - I see, I see him. - Go say hi! 682 00:34:16,972 --> 00:34:18,742 I know, I see him. We'll sit down, we'll sit down. 683 00:34:18,766 --> 00:34:20,017 Pat: Was your drive in okay? 684 00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:21,578 - Jim, go say hi! - I don't wanna say hi. 685 00:34:21,602 --> 00:34:22,978 I'm fine. We'll say hi later. 686 00:34:23,062 --> 00:34:24,855 Pat: You remember Jim and Tammy Faye? 687 00:34:24,939 --> 00:34:26,625 Hey, now, the puppet people! 688 00:34:26,649 --> 00:34:28,859 Oh, my goodness, just... 689 00:34:28,943 --> 00:34:30,819 What a pleasure, Mr. Falwell. 690 00:34:30,903 --> 00:34:32,655 A pleasure and a blessing. 691 00:34:32,738 --> 00:34:36,033 You are truly an inspiration to me. It's an honor. 692 00:34:36,116 --> 00:34:37,701 Nice to meet you, Jerry. I'm Tammy. 693 00:34:37,785 --> 00:34:39,328 Jim: Tammy Faye and this is sissy. 694 00:34:39,411 --> 00:34:40,972 Aren't the three of you 695 00:34:40,996 --> 00:34:41,997 as cute as a button? 696 00:34:42,081 --> 00:34:43,332 - Tammy: Aw! - Pat: Yes, sir! 697 00:34:44,208 --> 00:34:45,584 Jerry: It's a moral issue... 698 00:34:48,295 --> 00:34:50,172 Feminist revolution. 699 00:34:55,469 --> 00:34:56,804 Dede: You know it was fate. 700 00:34:56,887 --> 00:34:59,473 It was when my youngest was being baptized, 701 00:34:59,556 --> 00:35:01,183 she was such a little-bitty thing 702 00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:05,396 that we had to put a little milk crate in the baptismal for her to stand on. 703 00:35:06,730 --> 00:35:09,066 Come on, let's go see daddy. 704 00:35:13,696 --> 00:35:15,114 Hi! 705 00:35:15,197 --> 00:35:16,865 Could I sit down? 706 00:35:18,033 --> 00:35:19,576 I have the baby, you know. 707 00:35:19,660 --> 00:35:21,578 It's kinda hard to eat and, you know... 708 00:35:21,662 --> 00:35:23,038 Jim: Sure. Um, yeah. 709 00:35:23,122 --> 00:35:25,916 Using the fork and the knife at the same time 710 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,560 and, you know, get the food to my mouth. 711 00:35:27,584 --> 00:35:28,585 Well, why don't... 712 00:35:28,669 --> 00:35:30,004 - I think... - And I wanna hear 713 00:35:30,087 --> 00:35:31,588 all this interesting stuff. 714 00:35:31,672 --> 00:35:32,732 - Pat: Yeah, but... - Honey_. 715 00:35:32,756 --> 00:35:34,466 - Tammy: Well, I'll be right back. - Tam. 716 00:35:36,885 --> 00:35:38,012 She's a firecracker, Jim. 717 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,768 - Jim. - Yes. 718 00:35:44,852 --> 00:35:46,312 Come on. 719 00:35:46,395 --> 00:35:47,795 Swaggart: Okay. 720 00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:50,899 Swaggart: Okay. 721 00:35:50,983 --> 00:35:52,651 Well, very nice. 722 00:35:53,152 --> 00:35:54,653 As you were saying, Jerry? 723 00:35:56,739 --> 00:35:58,949 Let's call me reverend falwell. 724 00:35:59,825 --> 00:36:00,826 Of course. 725 00:36:02,494 --> 00:36:04,663 Jerry: Young people today are raised on television. 726 00:36:04,747 --> 00:36:06,874 It's taught them an immorality. 727 00:36:06,957 --> 00:36:11,628 But now, we are on television. 728 00:36:13,088 --> 00:36:14,882 When I created the 700 club, 729 00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:18,302 all I needed was 700 people to keep us going. 730 00:36:18,385 --> 00:36:22,056 A year later, we're in six markets and growin'. 731 00:36:22,139 --> 00:36:26,727 Hundreds of thousands of folks are hearin' the word. 732 00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:28,812 Now, god has a voice in this fight. 733 00:36:28,896 --> 00:36:30,147 - Swaggart: Amen. - Pat: Mm-hmm. 734 00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:32,149 Mm. Who's he fighting? 735 00:36:32,941 --> 00:36:34,401 Jerry: The liberal agenda. 736 00:36:34,485 --> 00:36:36,904 The feminist agenda. 737 00:36:36,987 --> 00:36:38,197 Homosexual agenda. 738 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,450 It's time for a reversal of these trends. 739 00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:44,661 The only hope's in saving america. 740 00:36:44,745 --> 00:36:45,889 Swaggart: Get back to the good old days. 741 00:36:45,913 --> 00:36:47,193 Jim: Mm. Mm. 742 00:36:47,915 --> 00:36:50,334 Well, I love our country, 743 00:36:51,043 --> 00:36:52,878 but america is for them, too. 744 00:36:52,961 --> 00:36:55,422 Uh... well... 745 00:36:55,506 --> 00:36:56,507 - Oh, tam? - Mm? 746 00:36:56,590 --> 00:36:57,984 Will you mind getting me another coke? 747 00:36:58,008 --> 00:36:59,176 Jim, let your wife speak. 748 00:37:00,386 --> 00:37:03,514 Debate. I think it gets us all back to unity. 749 00:37:03,597 --> 00:37:06,433 Oh, I don't want to debate you, Jerry. I love you. 750 00:37:06,517 --> 00:37:08,519 - I love all of you guys. - Reverend falwell. 751 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,521 Pat: Um... 752 00:37:10,604 --> 00:37:12,481 We love you, too, Tammy Faye. 753 00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:13,982 Man: Yes, we do. 754 00:37:15,317 --> 00:37:16,485 Jerry: God as my witness, 755 00:37:16,568 --> 00:37:20,781 I made a pledge to continue to expose the sins in this country. 756 00:37:21,448 --> 00:37:25,119 The Bible explicitly forbids homosexuality. 757 00:37:25,202 --> 00:37:26,995 There's no gray area. 758 00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:28,580 Tammy: Mm. 759 00:37:28,664 --> 00:37:32,334 Well, you know, I don't think of them as homosexuals. 760 00:37:32,418 --> 00:37:34,795 I just think of them as other human beings that I love. 761 00:37:34,878 --> 00:37:39,174 You know, we're all just people made out of the same old dirt. 762 00:37:39,258 --> 00:37:41,176 And god didn't make any junk. 763 00:37:42,428 --> 00:37:43,429 Right, honey? 764 00:37:47,141 --> 00:37:48,267 - Jim: Tammy? - Hmm? 765 00:37:49,726 --> 00:37:50,978 - Tam. - Hmm? 766 00:37:51,061 --> 00:37:53,105 You can't... what are you doing? 767 00:37:53,188 --> 00:37:54,541 Tammy: I'm changing the baby, honey. 768 00:37:54,565 --> 00:37:56,900 Jim: You can't talk to him like that. 769 00:37:57,860 --> 00:38:01,071 That's the big boss man. We need him to like us. 770 00:38:01,155 --> 00:38:02,781 - Jim. - No, Tammy. 771 00:38:02,865 --> 00:38:05,868 Look, listen to me. I'm trying to build something here. 772 00:38:05,951 --> 00:38:07,578 I'm not messing around. 773 00:38:07,661 --> 00:38:10,956 God told me he wants me to have what pat has. 774 00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:14,293 But if you keep acting like that, if you keep talking to falwell that way, 775 00:38:14,376 --> 00:38:15,627 I'm not gonna ever get there. 776 00:38:15,711 --> 00:38:18,046 Well, god's been talking to me, too, you know, Jim? 777 00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:19,673 And he said that I gotta speak up. 778 00:38:21,008 --> 00:38:22,551 So, here goes. 779 00:38:22,634 --> 00:38:25,345 You can't leave me at home all alone, 780 00:38:25,429 --> 00:38:27,890 feeling unloved, and useless. 781 00:38:29,475 --> 00:38:33,103 And he said that I belong on TV just as much as you do. 782 00:38:33,187 --> 00:38:35,856 And that I should sing and I should be funny. 783 00:38:35,939 --> 00:38:38,692 And I should talk about real things for grown-ups. 784 00:38:38,775 --> 00:38:40,986 Just, you know, just the way you do. 785 00:38:43,155 --> 00:38:44,156 And... 786 00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:48,785 He says I'm not gonna tell people who's going to hell, Jim. 787 00:38:50,329 --> 00:38:52,498 We're in the business of healing people. 788 00:38:55,501 --> 00:38:56,710 Yes. 789 00:38:58,378 --> 00:39:01,173 Jerry falwell's a powerful man, Tammy Faye. 790 00:39:03,550 --> 00:39:05,385 Jim bakker 791 00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:08,680 is a powerful man. 792 00:39:09,723 --> 00:39:12,017 Jim bakker. 793 00:39:15,646 --> 00:39:19,233 Yes, he is, Tammy Faye bakker. 794 00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:24,404 I'm so, so sorry. I forgot my own strength... 795 00:39:25,781 --> 00:39:27,491 And my manly duties. 796 00:39:28,408 --> 00:39:30,202 It's okay. 797 00:39:31,453 --> 00:39:33,330 You know, we built cbn in four years 798 00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:35,791 and we could build our own in half that. 799 00:39:36,667 --> 00:39:38,126 Yes, I think we can. 800 00:39:39,962 --> 00:39:41,922 Oh, yeah, we can. 801 00:39:43,048 --> 00:39:45,551 Yes. 802 00:39:46,343 --> 00:39:49,721 Jim bakker is gonna be a builder for Christ. 803 00:39:50,764 --> 00:39:52,766 Oh, yes, he will. 804 00:39:52,849 --> 00:39:55,894 And Tammy Faye bakker 805 00:39:55,978 --> 00:40:00,482 is gonna sing her gospel all around the world. 806 00:40:00,566 --> 00:40:02,651 We are gonna spread his word. 807 00:40:03,402 --> 00:40:04,403 Oh, my! 808 00:40:08,115 --> 00:40:10,367 Announcer: Coming to you from praise the lord studios 809 00:40:10,450 --> 00:40:12,035 in Charlotte, north Carolina, 810 00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:14,288 broadcasting live across this great nation. 811 00:40:14,371 --> 00:40:16,123 Praise the lord television network 812 00:40:16,206 --> 00:40:19,626 presents our 17 ve-year anniversary Christmas special... 813 00:40:19,710 --> 00:40:21,920 The Jim and 7'amm y show! 814 00:40:22,004 --> 00:40:23,964 Tammy and singers: Ooh we 're blest 815 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,384 we are blest 816 00:40:27,467 --> 00:40:29,928 yes, we've got shelter clothing and strength 817 00:40:30,012 --> 00:40:33,056 we are blest 818 00:40:33,140 --> 00:40:34,860 I/I/e 're blest, we 're blest, we 're blest 819 00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:38,395 we are blest 820 00:40:38,478 --> 00:40:43,567 I/I/e don't deserve it but yet we are blest 821 00:40:43,650 --> 00:40:47,070 I/I/e don't deserve it but yet we are blest 822 00:40:47,154 --> 00:40:48,905 Hi, everybody! 823 00:40:50,490 --> 00:40:53,368 Nice to see you. Hi! How are you? 824 00:40:53,869 --> 00:40:55,787 Look at all of you! Wow! 825 00:40:55,871 --> 00:40:57,289 My land! 826 00:40:57,372 --> 00:40:59,292 What a beautiful audience! Hi, how are you doing? 827 00:40:59,333 --> 00:41:03,420 God has worked miracles! I want miracles for all of us! 828 00:41:03,503 --> 00:41:06,548 We've got a marvelous show for you today. Little Richard is here! 829 00:41:06,632 --> 00:41:08,258 God loves you. 830 00:41:08,342 --> 00:41:09,968 He really does! 831 00:41:10,052 --> 00:41:12,655 Reporter: They are doing god's work teaching skills to the homeless. 832 00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:14,348 Providing housing for unwed mothers 833 00:41:14,431 --> 00:41:15,807 and handicapped children. 834 00:41:22,272 --> 00:41:24,524 Ptl brings the word of god and Jesus Christ 835 00:41:24,608 --> 00:41:25,835 - to the whole world. - That's it. 836 00:41:25,859 --> 00:41:28,487 - God bless you, honey. - It's a powerful thing! 837 00:41:35,077 --> 00:41:36,757 Reporter 2: Five years ago, the ptl network 838 00:41:36,828 --> 00:41:39,998 was little more than a prayer and a dream. 839 00:41:40,082 --> 00:41:42,376 Today, the nation's fourth largest network. 840 00:41:42,459 --> 00:41:47,297 I/I/e don't deserve it but yet we are blest 841 00:41:48,215 --> 00:41:52,010 I/I/e don't deserve it but yet we are blest 842 00:41:53,011 --> 00:41:55,013 yes, people. We truly are blessed 843 00:41:55,097 --> 00:41:58,392 because there is no condemnation for them which are in Jesus Christ. 844 00:41:58,475 --> 00:42:01,770 Therefore, if god is for us, who could be against us? 845 00:42:01,853 --> 00:42:04,231 Blessed are they that hunger and thirst for his glory, 846 00:42:04,314 --> 00:42:06,191 for they shall be filled. 847 00:42:06,274 --> 00:42:09,152 Blessed are the pure of heart, for they shall see god. 848 00:42:09,236 --> 00:42:13,365 We have gathered us into his kingdom and made us priests of god his father. 849 00:42:13,448 --> 00:42:18,286 Give unto him everlasting glory, he rules forever! Amen! 850 00:42:18,370 --> 00:42:20,122 Amen! 851 00:42:20,205 --> 00:42:21,289 Wow! 852 00:42:24,084 --> 00:42:25,627 My land! 853 00:42:29,965 --> 00:42:32,134 Tammy Faye, ladies and gentlemen, 854 00:42:32,217 --> 00:42:33,468 Tammy Faye bakker! 855 00:42:34,136 --> 00:42:38,014 And it's the happiest time of the year, it's Christmas! 856 00:42:38,515 --> 00:42:41,309 And remember, never forget it. 857 00:42:41,393 --> 00:42:44,855 You know what I'm gonna say. God loves you. 858 00:42:44,938 --> 00:42:46,898 He really, really, really does. 859 00:42:46,982 --> 00:42:48,817 Merry Christmas, everyone! 860 00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:51,278 - Merry Christmas! - Bye-bye, everybody! 861 00:42:51,361 --> 00:42:53,155 I'm Fletcher, Jim's right-hand man. 862 00:42:53,238 --> 00:42:55,782 Jim and Tammy are gonna be so happy to see you. 863 00:42:55,866 --> 00:42:58,577 I can't believe you've never made it down to the studios before. 864 00:42:58,660 --> 00:43:01,496 Well, the carolinas are a long way from international falls. 865 00:43:01,580 --> 00:43:03,940 Have you always been involved with the church, Mr. Fletcher? 866 00:43:03,999 --> 00:43:05,625 I've done all sorts of things. 867 00:43:05,709 --> 00:43:07,961 Once, I was even a party clown. 868 00:43:08,044 --> 00:43:09,272 You don't believe me, but it's true. 869 00:43:09,296 --> 00:43:11,047 Come, this way. Show's about to start. 870 00:43:11,131 --> 00:43:12,132 Fred: Party clown? 871 00:43:12,215 --> 00:43:13,592 We'll get you set up. 872 00:43:13,675 --> 00:43:15,886 Man: But the penile implant of the inflatable type 873 00:43:15,969 --> 00:43:17,721 is the one that we see here. 874 00:43:17,804 --> 00:43:19,222 Mm-hmm. And this is the newest one? 875 00:43:19,306 --> 00:43:22,392 Well, it is. And when the man wants to become erect, 876 00:43:23,143 --> 00:43:24,644 he simply reaches down 877 00:43:24,728 --> 00:43:28,231 and he squeezes that several times 878 00:43:28,315 --> 00:43:29,566 and the man becomes firm. 879 00:43:29,649 --> 00:43:31,693 I think that's fantastic. 880 00:43:33,195 --> 00:43:35,363 Go ahead, audience, go ahead. 881 00:43:37,365 --> 00:43:39,451 Well, you know something else that's fantastic? 882 00:43:39,534 --> 00:43:41,578 I'm so excited I'm just beside myself. 883 00:43:41,661 --> 00:43:43,872 I would like to introduce you 884 00:43:43,955 --> 00:43:47,083 to my mother and her husband, 885 00:43:47,167 --> 00:43:48,919 Rachel and Fred grover. 886 00:43:49,002 --> 00:43:51,671 Stand up, everybody, stand up. 887 00:43:51,755 --> 00:43:52,923 Come on. Stand up, 888 00:43:53,006 --> 00:43:54,800 that deserves a b/g ol' round of applause. 889 00:43:57,135 --> 00:43:58,678 Stand up, mom. 890 00:44:04,768 --> 00:44:06,019 Tammy: Thank you. 891 00:44:06,102 --> 00:44:07,854 So, here's the house. 892 00:44:07,938 --> 00:44:10,816 Isn't it beautiful? I just think it's so neat. 893 00:44:10,899 --> 00:44:14,069 Our ministry's building lots of houses on the ptl property. 894 00:44:14,152 --> 00:44:16,780 There's one with pregnant teens and one for kids with needs. 895 00:44:16,863 --> 00:44:18,549 It's all part of our mission to help people. 896 00:44:18,573 --> 00:44:20,492 Fred: This is just wonderful, honey. 897 00:44:20,575 --> 00:44:21,969 Yeah, I'm so glad you guys are here. 898 00:44:21,993 --> 00:44:23,578 I got you set up in the guest room 899 00:44:23,662 --> 00:44:26,289 and you can stay there until your new house is ready. 900 00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:29,292 Come on. Let me give you a tour. 901 00:44:29,376 --> 00:44:33,004 This is the relaxation room. 902 00:44:34,047 --> 00:44:37,050 Oh, now that you're here, I'm just gonna bug you anytime I want to. 903 00:44:37,133 --> 00:44:39,845 Oh, yeah, I'm gonna wake you up any hour of the night. 904 00:44:39,928 --> 00:44:42,568 I'm just so glad to have you here in the ptl property with me, mom. 905 00:44:44,140 --> 00:44:46,852 All those people looking at me and clapping. 906 00:44:46,935 --> 00:44:48,270 Oh, no. 907 00:44:48,353 --> 00:44:50,605 Rachel: I don't appreciate being bamboozled like that. 908 00:44:50,689 --> 00:44:51,773 It's love, mom. 909 00:44:52,566 --> 00:44:54,150 Oh, yeah, that's god's love. 910 00:44:54,234 --> 00:44:56,945 Every day, I have rapture. 911 00:44:57,028 --> 00:44:58,029 Rachel: Rapture? 912 00:44:58,113 --> 00:45:01,867 You just spent an hour talking about pumping penises. 913 00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:05,662 Well, these things happen to people 914 00:45:05,745 --> 00:45:08,665 and I'm just being honest about the way that life is. 915 00:45:08,748 --> 00:45:11,751 And I'm providing solutions 916 00:45:11,835 --> 00:45:13,545 to make marriages better. 917 00:45:13,628 --> 00:45:15,422 - Tam, where's the privy? - On the left. 918 00:45:15,505 --> 00:45:16,590 Okay. 919 00:45:16,673 --> 00:45:17,674 Sit down, mom. 920 00:45:18,633 --> 00:45:20,385 Who paid for this house, Tammy? 921 00:45:20,468 --> 00:45:22,262 Well, the ministry makes lots of houses. 922 00:45:22,345 --> 00:45:23,847 We've got one for unwed mothers. 923 00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:25,283 Wait till you see Kevin's house. 924 00:45:25,307 --> 00:45:28,476 Oh, yeah, that one's for kids with special needs. 925 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,896 And it's named after a sweet little boy named Kevin. 926 00:45:30,979 --> 00:45:32,063 Oh, he's 13 years old 927 00:45:32,147 --> 00:45:35,483 and he is the sweetest, tiniest little thing you ever saw. 928 00:45:35,567 --> 00:45:38,028 His hands are attached to his shoulders 929 00:45:38,111 --> 00:45:39,905 and he has no arms at all. 930 00:45:39,988 --> 00:45:41,114 Bless his little heart. 931 00:45:42,032 --> 00:45:43,617 Let me show you to your room. 932 00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:49,432 Okay, everyone, let's see if I can do this. 933 00:45:49,456 --> 00:45:51,256 So, now, you're gonna go in a circle. 934 00:45:51,291 --> 00:45:54,294 Oh, mine looks a little bit like it had an explosion. 935 00:45:54,377 --> 00:45:55,813 You know what I'm gonna do? 936 00:45:55,837 --> 00:45:58,548 'Cause normally when I use frosting, it's not this thick. 937 00:45:58,632 --> 00:45:59,633 I'm just gonna do that. 938 00:45:59,716 --> 00:46:01,110 I think it's gonna be pretty. 939 00:46:01,134 --> 00:46:02,820 You know, next time, I'm gonna make you guys my fudge. 940 00:46:02,844 --> 00:46:04,846 That's the best. I think I've only made that, 941 00:46:04,930 --> 00:46:07,557 you know, on the show, like, a couple times. Mm. 942 00:46:07,641 --> 00:46:09,351 I know! I wish we had smell-o-vision, 943 00:46:09,434 --> 00:46:10,578 so you could smell this. 944 00:46:10,602 --> 00:46:12,687 This is really nice. 945 00:46:18,526 --> 00:46:19,611 Oh! 946 00:46:19,694 --> 00:46:21,404 That one. How much time do we have? 947 00:46:21,488 --> 00:46:22,572 Man: 10 minutes, Tammy. 948 00:46:22,656 --> 00:46:24,157 Oh, goodness! 949 00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,869 Hey, mom. Did you see the show? 950 00:46:27,953 --> 00:46:29,579 Wasn't that fun? 951 00:46:29,663 --> 00:46:32,624 I'm not sure what's so Christian about decorating a cupcake. 952 00:46:32,707 --> 00:46:35,210 Oh, mom, you're so funny. 953 00:46:35,293 --> 00:46:36,836 - Have you seen this? - Tammy: Hmm? 954 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:37,921 From the observer. 955 00:46:38,004 --> 00:46:40,048 Picture of you and Jim on the front. 956 00:46:41,216 --> 00:46:43,677 "Ptl's bakker diverts ministry funds 957 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,388 "for new building project." 958 00:46:46,888 --> 00:46:48,139 What's that about? 959 00:46:49,641 --> 00:46:51,017 Well, you can't believe everything 960 00:46:51,101 --> 00:46:52,811 that you read in the newspapers, mom. 961 00:46:52,894 --> 00:46:54,646 How's Fred doing? Is he settling in okay? 962 00:46:54,729 --> 00:46:58,108 Smoke and fire idn'tjust the Providence of hell, girl. 963 00:46:58,191 --> 00:47:00,169 You know when I saw that clipping with my face on it, 964 00:47:00,193 --> 00:47:02,445 I thought for a second that you were proud of me. 965 00:47:03,154 --> 00:47:07,200 I'm hearing there are articles like this in the paper every day. 966 00:47:07,283 --> 00:47:08,994 The secular press hates us 967 00:47:09,077 --> 00:47:12,455 because we're winning millions of souls for Jesus. 968 00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:14,499 Oh, Tammy Faye. 969 00:47:14,582 --> 00:47:16,292 You follow blindly. 970 00:47:16,376 --> 00:47:19,421 In the end, all you are is blind. 971 00:47:21,715 --> 00:47:23,049 Jim: I don't know how to do it. 972 00:47:23,133 --> 00:47:25,593 I just need it done. That is your job. 973 00:47:25,677 --> 00:47:26,678 Yes. 974 00:47:27,804 --> 00:47:28,888 Yes. 975 00:47:28,972 --> 00:47:29,973 God bless you. 976 00:47:42,485 --> 00:47:44,612 You wonder why I don't snuggle you. 977 00:47:46,156 --> 00:47:49,325 Maybe it's all that goopy stuff on you. 978 00:47:50,368 --> 00:47:54,706 Well, it's better than spending the night with an alligator. 979 00:47:55,415 --> 00:47:57,417 Oh. 980 00:47:57,500 --> 00:47:59,002 That newspaper. 981 00:48:00,003 --> 00:48:03,006 She saved it like it was a little treasure. 982 00:48:03,673 --> 00:48:05,967 It made me feel so rotten. 983 00:48:07,135 --> 00:48:09,846 Well, your mother's never been all that nice to you. 984 00:48:10,472 --> 00:48:11,681 Yeah. 985 00:48:12,307 --> 00:48:14,059 Some people just don't change. 986 00:48:15,310 --> 00:48:18,104 We're not doing anything wrong, though. 987 00:48:26,029 --> 00:48:27,864 Is that a question? 988 00:48:47,217 --> 00:48:48,802 Tammy, sometimes, I fear 989 00:48:48,885 --> 00:48:52,347 that what god wants of me is beyond my abilities. 990 00:48:52,972 --> 00:48:54,641 I'm building so much for him 991 00:48:54,724 --> 00:48:57,644 in his name and for his people. 992 00:48:58,394 --> 00:48:59,687 - Yeah. - And... 993 00:49:00,522 --> 00:49:02,482 And he's giving me more visions every day. 994 00:49:02,565 --> 00:49:04,776 Giving me more orders all the time. 995 00:49:04,859 --> 00:49:07,570 And then, every day, these creditors... 996 00:49:09,364 --> 00:49:12,742 And the people who are asking me to save them. 997 00:49:15,078 --> 00:49:16,558 I'm only one man. 998 00:49:16,621 --> 00:49:18,123 I'm only one man, Tammy. 999 00:49:18,206 --> 00:49:19,541 Tammy: Oh, Jim. 1000 00:49:20,750 --> 00:49:23,169 Well, I only need one man. 1001 00:49:23,253 --> 00:49:24,712 You're enough, honey. 1002 00:49:26,631 --> 00:49:28,341 Okay, come on. Come to bed. 1003 00:49:29,717 --> 00:49:31,761 Honey, it's been two months, 1004 00:49:31,845 --> 00:49:34,639 and we said we were gonna try to have another baby. 1005 00:49:34,722 --> 00:49:36,474 Tammy, I need your help. 1006 00:49:36,558 --> 00:49:39,394 I need you not to get in my way. 1007 00:49:39,477 --> 00:49:42,522 And I need you to not ask more of me than I can give. 1008 00:49:42,605 --> 00:49:43,606 Okay. 1009 00:49:44,983 --> 00:49:46,526 Do you wanna talk some more? 1010 00:49:52,699 --> 00:49:54,784 Can you... 1011 00:49:54,868 --> 00:49:56,578 Can you talk to god? 1012 00:49:57,871 --> 00:49:59,998 I'm so tired and... 1013 00:50:02,542 --> 00:50:03,668 Yes? 1014 00:50:05,295 --> 00:50:06,504 I'll call you right back. 1015 00:50:08,006 --> 00:50:09,007 I'll take it downstairs. 1016 00:50:21,394 --> 00:50:22,746 Tammy and chorus: Don'tgive up 1017 00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:25,648 you're on the brink 1018 00:50:25,732 --> 00:50:29,819 of a miracle 1019 00:50:29,903 --> 00:50:31,988 don't give up 1020 00:50:32,071 --> 00:50:36,492 remember you're not alone 1021 00:50:37,952 --> 00:50:42,457 People, don't give up you're on the brink 1022 00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:45,960 of a miracle 1023 00:50:46,044 --> 00:50:50,173 Don't give up on the brink 1024 00:50:50,256 --> 00:50:54,385 of a miracle - 1025 00:50:54,469 --> 00:50:56,512 Don't give in 1026 00:50:56,596 --> 00:51:00,391 god is still on the throne 1027 00:51:00,475 --> 00:51:02,435 he's on his throne 1028 00:51:02,518 --> 00:51:05,021 don't give up 1029 00:51:05,104 --> 00:51:07,023 You nailed it. 1030 00:51:07,106 --> 00:51:08,316 Really? 1031 00:51:08,942 --> 00:51:11,527 This is sublime. This is top drawer. 1032 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,905 You really think so, Gary? 1033 00:51:14,489 --> 00:51:15,615 I know so. 1034 00:51:15,698 --> 00:51:17,492 Your opinion means so much to me. 1035 00:51:17,575 --> 00:51:19,637 I haven't been this excited about working with an artist 1036 00:51:19,661 --> 00:51:21,204 since I produced monster mash. 1037 00:51:21,913 --> 00:51:24,624 That's really sweet. 1038 00:51:24,707 --> 00:51:26,876 We could get a grammy. 1039 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,003 - Really? - Really. 1040 00:51:35,051 --> 00:51:37,303 Tammy, it's time to go. Time for the shoot. 1041 00:51:37,387 --> 00:51:38,596 Come on. We're... 1042 00:51:39,180 --> 00:51:40,598 Can you hear me? 1043 00:51:40,682 --> 00:51:42,242 - Yeah. - I/I/e've been looking for you, 1044 00:51:42,308 --> 00:51:44,602 so, let's go. We 're live in 75 minutes. 1045 00:51:44,686 --> 00:51:46,271 Hey, hey, Jim, how are ya? 1046 00:51:47,105 --> 00:51:48,481 Blessed, Gary, blessed 1047 00:51:48,564 --> 00:51:50,900 I'm sorry, Jim. You know, I got lost in the music. 1048 00:51:50,984 --> 00:51:54,153 Gary here, he just makes it all so awesome. 1049 00:51:54,237 --> 00:51:55,589 Wait till you hear it. 1050 00:51:55,613 --> 00:51:56,614 You're going to love it. 1051 00:51:56,698 --> 00:51:58,074 No, it's her voice, Jim. 1052 00:51:58,157 --> 00:52:01,869 I just turn the knobs here. She sings like an angel. 1053 00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:05,540 Well, I'm never giving you back to Nashville, oh, no! 1054 00:52:06,499 --> 00:52:08,543 It's such a beautiful way to connect, Jim. 1055 00:52:08,626 --> 00:52:10,503 It's god's voice through my voice. 1056 00:52:10,586 --> 00:52:11,963 To the world's ears. 1057 00:52:12,588 --> 00:52:13,840 The things you say, Gary. 1058 00:52:15,133 --> 00:52:16,968 7'ammy/ you're not camera ready. 1059 00:52:17,051 --> 00:52:19,154 You know everybody's waiting for you and it's a b/g day. 1060 00:52:19,178 --> 00:52:21,639 We gotta do 400 k today. Can we shake a leg, please? 1061 00:52:21,723 --> 00:52:23,725 Thank you. I'm sorry to drag her away, Gary. 1062 00:52:23,808 --> 00:52:26,144 Okay! 1063 00:52:26,227 --> 00:52:27,395 Shake a leg, please. 1064 00:52:27,478 --> 00:52:28,604 Sure thing, mister. 1065 00:52:28,688 --> 00:52:29,981 Thank you. 1066 00:52:30,064 --> 00:52:31,858 - Gary: Jim. - Thank you, Gary. 1067 00:52:32,442 --> 00:52:33,526 - Tam? - Mm? 1068 00:52:39,115 --> 00:52:41,117 Tammy: Ta-da! I made it! 1069 00:52:42,076 --> 00:52:43,536 Man: 30 seconds, everyone! 1070 00:52:44,579 --> 00:52:45,913 Woman: Light on one, please! 1071 00:52:49,375 --> 00:52:51,836 Hmm. How's that? 1072 00:52:51,919 --> 00:52:52,962 Man 2: Yeah. 1073 00:52:56,424 --> 00:52:59,802 Man 3: And we're live in five, four, 1074 00:52:59,886 --> 00:53:02,013 three, two... 1075 00:53:06,809 --> 00:53:11,147 Tammy and I are undergoing the most vicious attacks 1076 00:53:11,230 --> 00:53:13,524 in the history of this ministry. 1077 00:53:14,817 --> 00:53:18,905 By now, perhaps you think that we should be used to these attacks. 1078 00:53:19,864 --> 00:53:22,241 But it's been going on for a long time, Tammy. 1079 00:53:22,325 --> 00:53:23,576 Oh, yeah, that's right, Jim. 1080 00:53:23,659 --> 00:53:25,661 It's been going on a long time. 1081 00:53:26,537 --> 00:53:29,540 We are being persecuted by the secular press 1082 00:53:29,624 --> 00:53:34,087 who simply do not want you to receive the word of god. 1083 00:53:34,879 --> 00:53:36,547 Jim: It is a witch hunt. 1084 00:53:36,631 --> 00:53:40,259 And on top of this, we have numerous past due bills... 1085 00:53:40,343 --> 00:53:41,677 That must be paid 1086 00:53:41,761 --> 00:53:44,222 if we want to save the entire network 1087 00:53:44,305 --> 00:53:47,266 and stay on the air delivering the word of god every day. 1088 00:53:47,350 --> 00:53:50,478 So, now is the time for our prayer warriors 1089 00:53:50,561 --> 00:53:53,314 to rise up because we are in a war. 1090 00:53:54,232 --> 00:53:58,403 You know, Tammy and I, we just hate to do this, 1091 00:54:00,405 --> 00:54:02,490 but if e very person watching 1092 00:54:02,573 --> 00:54:05,910 could double their pledge right now, 1093 00:54:06,786 --> 00:54:10,206 that way, we can save the word of god. 1094 00:54:10,289 --> 00:54:12,291 I'm talking about salvation. 1095 00:54:12,375 --> 00:54:17,255 Yours, mine, ptl's, the entire world's. 1096 00:54:17,338 --> 00:54:20,675 So, together, if we agree together, 1097 00:54:20,758 --> 00:54:23,553 let's give the devil a black eye. 1098 00:54:24,929 --> 00:54:27,348 Oh, the phones are ringing. Oh. 1099 00:54:27,432 --> 00:54:30,601 Praise Jesus and praise you! 1100 00:54:30,685 --> 00:54:33,479 And god bless you! God bless you! 1101 00:54:33,563 --> 00:54:34,856 Tammy: Hallelujah! 1102 00:54:34,939 --> 00:54:38,401 And don't forget, remember, god loves you. 1103 00:54:38,943 --> 00:54:42,280 - He really, really does. - He really does. 1104 00:54:45,825 --> 00:54:47,010 Man: Cut! Very good, everyone. 1105 00:54:47,034 --> 00:54:48,619 That was not bad. How was that? 1106 00:54:48,703 --> 00:54:51,330 - How was it? - Uh, that was good, Jim. 1107 00:54:51,414 --> 00:54:53,624 - We need to talk. Now. - Jim, it was great. 1108 00:54:53,708 --> 00:54:56,169 Fletcher: We're still gonna be over budget on that... 1109 00:54:59,505 --> 00:55:02,508 Tammy: I just want the sleeves a little shorter. 1110 00:55:02,592 --> 00:55:04,427 Everything's about proportion. 1111 00:55:06,137 --> 00:55:08,681 Okay, you ready to see? Close your eyes. 1112 00:55:10,766 --> 00:55:13,478 I love it, mother. 1113 00:55:13,561 --> 00:55:15,480 Oh, sissy, you look so beautiful, baby. 1114 00:55:15,563 --> 00:55:16,939 Thank you. 1115 00:55:17,023 --> 00:55:19,025 Rachel: Golly Moses, this thing weighs a ton. 1116 00:55:19,775 --> 00:55:20,776 Oh, goodness. 1117 00:55:20,860 --> 00:55:22,904 Rachel: Why do you have to do so much shopping, tam? 1118 00:55:22,987 --> 00:55:25,239 Well, I have to get my exercise somehow. 1119 00:55:25,323 --> 00:55:28,743 And, plus, I don't wanna balloon up with the new baby coming. 1120 00:55:28,826 --> 00:55:31,370 Hey, everyone, come here, come here. 1121 00:55:31,454 --> 00:55:32,497 Now, when she comes out, 1122 00:55:32,580 --> 00:55:35,500 make sure you all tell her how great she looks, okay? 1123 00:55:35,583 --> 00:55:37,394 You know, she hasn't had enough love in her life, 1124 00:55:37,418 --> 00:55:40,338 and it's time that we all change that. 1125 00:55:41,547 --> 00:55:42,632 Go on. 1126 00:55:48,095 --> 00:55:49,764 Good grief. 1127 00:55:49,847 --> 00:55:54,310 You look so good! Come here. You do. 1128 00:55:54,393 --> 00:55:55,645 Right? 1129 00:55:55,728 --> 00:55:56,896 Okay, get up on the pedestal. 1130 00:55:56,979 --> 00:55:58,207 I am not getting up on the pedestal. 1131 00:55:58,231 --> 00:55:59,398 - Come on, grandma. - Come on. 1132 00:55:59,482 --> 00:56:00,816 - Come on. - Don't push me. 1133 00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:02,276 Oh! 1134 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,612 Isn't it fun? We look like triplets. 1135 00:56:04,695 --> 00:56:06,781 I look like a bear. 1136 00:56:06,864 --> 00:56:08,407 You look like a beautiful bear. 1137 00:56:08,908 --> 00:56:11,118 - Oh. It's too much. - No. 1138 00:56:11,202 --> 00:56:12,828 Rachel: I already have a coat. 1139 00:56:13,329 --> 00:56:14,872 I don't need it. 1140 00:56:16,123 --> 00:56:19,043 Why are you so unwilling to accept the love that god has for you? 1141 00:56:20,294 --> 00:56:21,879 Can you pay for this? 1142 00:56:21,963 --> 00:56:23,965 The pledges are rolling in, mom. 1143 00:56:24,048 --> 00:56:26,092 People really like the show 1144 00:56:26,175 --> 00:56:29,136 and they're very happy to accept the love. 1145 00:56:31,889 --> 00:56:33,891 Take the coat, mom. 1146 00:56:33,975 --> 00:56:36,227 Just take the coat. 1147 00:56:36,310 --> 00:56:37,353 Rachel: Well... 1148 00:56:37,436 --> 00:56:39,564 Tammy: Please, for me. 1149 00:56:40,773 --> 00:56:45,653 Well, it is attractive, and it's very, very warm. 1150 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,631 Jim: I just feel like a million dollars. 1151 00:56:47,655 --> 00:56:49,335 Wanda: It looks great, Jim. Jim: You think? 1152 00:56:49,407 --> 00:56:50,783 Yeah, very subtle. 1153 00:56:50,866 --> 00:56:52,660 I didn't feel a thing. Not a thing. 1154 00:56:52,743 --> 00:56:54,537 And I played golf the next day. 1155 00:56:54,620 --> 00:56:55,806 So, we'll have a girl's night. 1156 00:56:55,830 --> 00:56:56,974 We'll go to maciano's, get some pasta. 1157 00:56:56,998 --> 00:56:57,999 Sissy: Yes, yes. 1158 00:56:58,082 --> 00:56:59,750 - I love that place. - Yeah? Oh, wait. 1159 00:56:59,834 --> 00:57:02,461 You know, why don't you go ahead, I'm gonna catch up. 1160 00:57:02,545 --> 00:57:04,589 - I'm gonna go give Jim a kiss. - Okay. 1161 00:57:04,672 --> 00:57:05,673 See ya. 1162 00:57:06,841 --> 00:57:08,926 And that reporter from the Charlotte observer 1163 00:57:09,010 --> 00:57:10,595 been poking around. 1164 00:57:10,678 --> 00:57:13,389 Calling some of our secretaries, asking for comments. 1165 00:57:13,472 --> 00:57:15,117 I'm gonna put a picture of that guy's butt... 1166 00:57:15,141 --> 00:57:17,977 On a punching bag 1167 00:57:18,060 --> 00:57:20,354 and I'm gonna use it for practice. 1168 00:57:21,689 --> 00:57:23,292 Fletcher: We need to talk about the deficit 1169 00:57:23,316 --> 00:57:25,036 we are running on the expansion to studio... 1170 00:57:25,067 --> 00:57:28,195 Jim: Phooey! Fletcher, no, you're such a worrywart. 1171 00:57:28,279 --> 00:57:30,323 We're gonna do a telethon next week. 1172 00:57:30,406 --> 00:57:32,450 The partners will not let us down. 1173 00:57:32,533 --> 00:57:33,951 Wanda, my nose is shiny. 1174 00:57:34,035 --> 00:57:35,262 - Wan da: Mm-mm. - Jim: Yes, it is. 1175 00:57:35,286 --> 00:57:36,638 - Wan da: No. - I'm telling you, Wanda. 1176 00:57:36,662 --> 00:57:38,414 - It's fine. - A little more powder, please. 1177 00:57:38,497 --> 00:57:39,933 Fletcher: Your nose isn't shiny, Jim. 1178 00:57:39,957 --> 00:57:41,167 You're just being fussy. 1179 00:57:41,250 --> 00:57:42,644 - Oh. - Fletcher: Wanda, tell him he's fussy. 1180 00:57:42,668 --> 00:57:44,295 You're fussy, pastor Jim. 1181 00:57:44,378 --> 00:57:45,421 Jim: Oh, how dare you. 1182 00:57:45,504 --> 00:57:47,715 You're wearing as much as Tammy these days. 1183 00:57:48,883 --> 00:57:50,603 Careful, you'll end up looking like a clown. 1184 00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:54,764 - Stop it! You can't talk... - But you know it's true. 1185 00:57:54,847 --> 00:57:56,158 - You know it's true. - Jim: Fletcher. 1186 00:57:56,182 --> 00:57:57,683 You got Wanda laughing. 1187 00:57:57,767 --> 00:57:59,661 Fletcher: She's not laughing. What are you laughing at? 1188 00:57:59,685 --> 00:58:00,912 It's not funny. 1189 00:58:00,936 --> 00:58:02,730 It's not funny. 1190 00:58:02,813 --> 00:58:04,315 Jim: You guys! 1191 00:58:04,398 --> 00:58:06,525 Oh, I got a new one. 1192 00:58:06,609 --> 00:58:08,527 Penny, cover your ears. 1193 00:58:08,611 --> 00:58:10,488 What did the leper say to the prostitute? 1194 00:58:10,571 --> 00:58:12,073 - Oh, boy. - What? 1195 00:58:12,156 --> 00:58:13,658 "You can keep the tip." 1196 00:58:13,741 --> 00:58:14,825 Oh, shit. 1197 00:58:16,786 --> 00:58:19,538 Jim, you mean jerk! You're gonna pay for that. 1198 00:58:19,622 --> 00:58:21,462 Jim: I went too far. I went too far. I'm sorry. 1199 00:58:22,875 --> 00:58:24,915 - I got you now. I got you now. - Jim: Wanda! Wanda! 1200 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,170 Fletcher: Wanda, come here. 1201 00:58:26,253 --> 00:58:27,397 Come here and powder his nose. 1202 00:58:27,421 --> 00:58:28,940 - Jim: No! No! - Fletcher: "Wanda, help. 1203 00:58:28,964 --> 00:58:30,675 "Wanda. Wanda. 1204 00:58:31,425 --> 00:58:33,594 "My nose is shiny." 1205 00:58:34,345 --> 00:58:37,556 Let me powder your nose. Let me powder your nose. 1206 00:58:53,322 --> 00:58:56,450 Somebody touched me 1207 00:58:56,534 --> 00:58:58,452 hallelujah 1208 00:58:58,536 --> 00:59:02,373 somebody touched me 1209 00:59:02,456 --> 00:59:07,002 oh, / was blind but praise his name 1210 00:59:07,086 --> 00:59:09,338 I now can see 1211 00:59:11,424 --> 00:59:15,302 I was in darkness 1212 00:59:15,386 --> 00:59:19,890 when Jesus found me 1213 00:59:19,974 --> 00:59:24,103 but since he touched me 1214 00:59:25,771 --> 00:59:32,153 I now am free 1215 00:59:32,737 --> 00:59:33,779 Wow. 1216 00:59:33,863 --> 00:59:36,031 That was beautiful. That was lovely, tam. 1217 00:59:36,115 --> 00:59:37,408 Gary. 1218 00:59:38,909 --> 00:59:40,369 Aren't you glad he touched you? 1219 00:59:40,453 --> 00:59:42,246 Truly. Yeah. 1220 00:59:44,498 --> 00:59:46,041 Hmm. 1221 00:59:46,125 --> 00:59:48,127 Well, this is perfect. I love this. 1222 00:59:48,210 --> 00:59:50,337 Well, it's all you, tam, it's all you. 1223 00:59:50,421 --> 00:59:54,759 Oh, no. No, no. You know I couldn't do this without you. 1224 00:59:54,842 --> 00:59:58,345 You know, your voice makes me feel closer to him. 1225 00:59:59,138 --> 01:00:01,098 Like he's right here. 1226 01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:04,101 He is. 1227 01:00:06,145 --> 01:00:07,646 Tam... 1228 01:00:09,273 --> 01:00:13,444 When was the last time that you were touched 1229 01:00:14,987 --> 01:00:17,698 in the way that a woman like you should be touched? 1230 01:00:18,866 --> 01:00:21,410 Oh, well... 1231 01:00:22,787 --> 01:00:24,055 I'm eight months pregnant, Gary, 1232 01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:25,581 so back it up from there. 1233 01:00:26,957 --> 01:00:30,586 Does his touch tell you how talented you are? 1234 01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:34,965 Gary. 1235 01:00:35,049 --> 01:00:37,843 Do his eyes tell you how beautiful you are? 1236 01:00:41,138 --> 01:00:43,682 Does he listen to you? 1237 01:00:43,766 --> 01:00:45,684 Does he hear how amazing you are? 1238 01:00:46,811 --> 01:00:48,103 Tammy. 1239 01:00:48,187 --> 01:00:49,480 Yes. 1240 01:00:50,064 --> 01:00:52,066 Can I touch you like that? 1241 01:00:52,983 --> 01:00:57,196 In that way that you should be touched. 1242 01:01:01,700 --> 01:01:03,911 - You can kiss me on my neck. - Okay. 1243 01:01:03,994 --> 01:01:06,038 - Don't leave a Mark, okay? - Yeah. 1244 01:01:19,218 --> 01:01:20,386 Come here. 1245 01:01:21,262 --> 01:01:23,222 I wanna hold you. 1246 01:01:28,769 --> 01:01:31,647 - Oh, no. Oh, no. - What? 1247 01:01:31,730 --> 01:01:33,774 - Leave them on. - All right. 1248 01:01:34,441 --> 01:01:35,669 Oh, you're so beautiful, Tammy. 1249 01:01:35,693 --> 01:01:37,194 Oh, you're so big. 1250 01:01:37,278 --> 01:01:38,779 Oh, yeah. 1251 01:01:39,738 --> 01:01:41,073 I like this. 1252 01:01:41,156 --> 01:01:42,324 Yeah. 1253 01:01:47,413 --> 01:01:49,039 What? What's wrong? 1254 01:01:49,582 --> 01:01:51,333 My water broke. 1255 01:01:54,795 --> 01:01:56,213 Tammy: Mm. 1256 01:01:56,881 --> 01:01:58,841 You're so beautiful. 1257 01:02:06,765 --> 01:02:08,434 He's so precious, Jim. 1258 01:02:18,068 --> 01:02:19,695 Gary: Congratulations, Jim. 1259 01:02:38,047 --> 01:02:41,091 I understand that Gary drove you here? 1260 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,387 Gary: We called the studio, Jim, but you were on the air. 1261 01:02:46,347 --> 01:02:49,475 Tammy was real upset that you weren't here for it. 1262 01:02:49,558 --> 01:02:51,018 No... 1263 01:02:52,019 --> 01:02:56,941 I'm just wonderful, Jim. I'm... I'm so wonderful. 1264 01:02:58,859 --> 01:03:02,696 We announced his birth on air. We got a real surge in pledges. 1265 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,365 Praise the lord. 1266 01:03:04,448 --> 01:03:06,367 We're gonna get that expansion in studio 3, 1267 01:03:06,450 --> 01:03:08,118 thanks to this little miracle. 1268 01:03:08,827 --> 01:03:10,579 Gary: Hmm. Congrats, Jim. 1269 01:03:11,163 --> 01:03:13,207 This is such a day of joy. 1270 01:03:16,043 --> 01:03:17,753 A day of celebration, 1271 01:03:17,836 --> 01:03:22,967 but I just can't help the feeling that something else is going on here. 1272 01:03:24,301 --> 01:03:26,679 That something depraved 1273 01:03:27,888 --> 01:03:29,056 taints this day. 1274 01:03:31,517 --> 01:03:35,104 Gary: Depraved is a very big word, Jim. 1275 01:03:35,896 --> 01:03:37,982 But it's a fitting word, isn't it, Tammy? 1276 01:03:42,903 --> 01:03:44,446 Yes, Jim. 1277 01:03:52,037 --> 01:03:55,582 Well, Fletcher's waiting outside 1278 01:03:56,417 --> 01:03:59,086 and he'll get this man back to Nashville, where he belongs. 1279 01:03:59,169 --> 01:04:00,879 - Oh, no. Jim, please, no. - Jim: Tammy. 1280 01:04:00,963 --> 01:04:02,881 - Tammy: Please. - Jim: Tammy, I suggest 1281 01:04:02,965 --> 01:04:04,508 you don't talk right now. 1282 01:04:05,843 --> 01:04:07,177 Tammy. 1283 01:04:08,887 --> 01:04:11,557 Tammy, I hope you're not gonna let him do this. 1284 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,350 Tammy? 1285 01:04:13,434 --> 01:04:16,729 I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. 1286 01:04:17,938 --> 01:04:19,273 Sorry. 1287 01:04:22,234 --> 01:04:23,986 I'm so sorry, Jim. 1288 01:04:28,407 --> 01:04:30,117 I'm so sorry. 1289 01:04:39,626 --> 01:04:41,312 Can you take the baby away from her, please? 1290 01:04:41,336 --> 01:04:43,589 Nurse: Okay. Aii right. 1291 01:04:47,051 --> 01:04:49,428 Let me get you something to help you sleep, okay, honey? 1292 01:05:16,830 --> 01:05:20,250 Jim: Yes. That's exactly what I told you. 1293 01:05:20,834 --> 01:05:23,170 Formal living quarters for some of the staff. 1294 01:05:23,253 --> 01:05:24,254 Man: Wow! 1295 01:05:24,338 --> 01:05:25,631 - Jim: Yes. - So ornate. 1296 01:05:25,714 --> 01:05:27,758 Jim: Inspired by European architect. 1297 01:05:27,841 --> 01:05:29,927 And over here, 1298 01:05:30,010 --> 01:05:33,430 that's the first Christian water park. 1299 01:05:33,514 --> 01:05:35,015 "We are fishers of men." 1300 01:05:35,099 --> 01:05:37,142 That's the bait. 1301 01:05:37,226 --> 01:05:38,811 That's good. 1302 01:05:38,894 --> 01:05:40,246 Jim: I wanted to show you this, too. 1303 01:05:40,270 --> 01:05:42,356 See, over here... yes. 1304 01:05:42,439 --> 01:05:45,651 This is old Jerusalem. 1305 01:05:45,734 --> 01:05:47,778 And it's a stunning replica. 1306 01:05:48,570 --> 01:05:49,738 Oh, it looks beautiful, Jim. 1307 01:05:49,822 --> 01:05:51,281 - Yeah. - So detailed. 1308 01:05:54,201 --> 01:05:57,162 You know what they say about details? God is in 'em. 1309 01:05:57,246 --> 01:05:59,289 - Yes. - That's right. 1310 01:05:59,998 --> 01:06:01,834 You know, for as long as I can remember, roe, 1311 01:06:01,917 --> 01:06:05,754 I've dreamed of a vacation destination for Christian families to come to. 1312 01:06:05,838 --> 01:06:08,507 A place where they can, um... 1313 01:06:08,590 --> 01:06:09,925 Hey, tam. 1314 01:06:10,008 --> 01:06:11,176 A place where they know 1315 01:06:11,260 --> 01:06:13,140 that their children are gonna be safe, you know? 1316 01:06:13,220 --> 01:06:14,471 Roe: Sure. 1317 01:06:14,555 --> 01:06:16,075 We're selling partnerships to fund it. 1318 01:06:16,932 --> 01:06:18,225 And that way, the partners, 1319 01:06:18,308 --> 01:06:19,852 they feel the sense of ownership 1320 01:06:20,519 --> 01:06:24,731 and a pride in this Christian paradise 1321 01:06:25,315 --> 01:06:26,567 that they've built. 1322 01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:33,490 Uh... um, how many partnerships do you have to sell in order to fund it? 1323 01:06:33,574 --> 01:06:34,867 Jim: Hmm. Well... 1324 01:06:39,121 --> 01:06:41,081 A lot. 1325 01:06:41,915 --> 01:06:43,000 Yes. 1326 01:06:43,083 --> 01:06:45,377 You know, because the partnerships we've already sold, 1327 01:06:47,004 --> 01:06:50,048 they've had to go to funding other projects. 1328 01:06:51,049 --> 01:06:52,843 - I see. - Yes. 1329 01:06:53,427 --> 01:06:54,720 But I've been praying on it. 1330 01:06:55,470 --> 01:06:57,556 I've been hoping that you could advance ptl 1331 01:06:57,639 --> 01:06:58,932 just a little bit of credit. 1332 01:07:00,517 --> 01:07:04,188 Just to get the bulldozers moving, you know? 1333 01:07:07,649 --> 01:07:09,026 Hi, honey. 1334 01:07:10,861 --> 01:07:13,071 Uh, this is roe messner. 1335 01:07:13,155 --> 01:07:15,324 He's the developer of heritage usa. 1336 01:07:15,407 --> 01:07:16,700 Well, I'm not the developer yet. 1337 01:07:16,783 --> 01:07:18,160 Jim: Yeah. 1338 01:07:24,374 --> 01:07:28,712 The doctors have had her on so many loopy things 1339 01:07:29,213 --> 01:07:31,882 since Jamie Charles was born. 1340 01:07:31,965 --> 01:07:35,177 Pills to make her normal. Pills to make her sleep. 1341 01:07:35,260 --> 01:07:36,803 Um, as long as she's feelin' better. 1342 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,724 Yes. Amen. 1343 01:07:42,226 --> 01:07:45,395 I love what you're trying to do here, Jim. 1344 01:07:45,479 --> 01:07:46,772 - Jim: Mm. - Roe: I do. 1345 01:07:46,855 --> 01:07:49,107 I spent some summers with my wife 1346 01:07:49,191 --> 01:07:50,484 at knott's Berry farm. 1347 01:07:51,652 --> 01:07:54,404 Every year the jellies got less and less fresh. 1348 01:07:54,488 --> 01:07:56,907 - Jim: Mm. - And I'm convinced 1349 01:07:56,990 --> 01:08:00,160 it's 'cause they started hiring the wrong kinds of people 1350 01:08:00,244 --> 01:08:01,245 to make the preserves. 1351 01:08:02,913 --> 01:08:04,706 I knew you were my man, roe. 1352 01:08:04,790 --> 01:08:06,917 Roe: But, uh... 1353 01:08:08,418 --> 01:08:09,711 I'm not a gambler, Mr. Bakker. 1354 01:08:10,671 --> 01:08:13,757 - Oh, well... - Oh, this isn't gambling, roe. 1355 01:08:14,466 --> 01:08:16,343 Oh, no, it's faith. 1356 01:08:17,135 --> 01:08:19,763 I have seen him perform miracles. 1357 01:08:20,514 --> 01:08:21,723 Roe: Huh. 1358 01:08:21,807 --> 01:08:24,893 I haven't had anyone claim to be a faith healer to my face 1359 01:08:24,977 --> 01:08:28,897 since I was about six years old. 1360 01:08:28,981 --> 01:08:32,109 Well, buildings are miracles. 1361 01:08:32,192 --> 01:08:33,443 Aren't they, roe? 1362 01:08:33,527 --> 01:08:36,863 Well, it's amazing anything ever gets built, that's for sure. 1363 01:08:37,698 --> 01:08:39,116 Yeah. 1364 01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:41,034 This is beautiful. 1365 01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:44,746 We must take a leap of faith for god. 1366 01:08:44,830 --> 01:08:48,333 Especially when the devil is makin' us doubt. 1367 01:08:49,042 --> 01:08:51,670 God's on our side, roe. 1368 01:08:52,462 --> 01:08:54,423 Every time we fall, 1369 01:08:55,299 --> 01:08:57,759 god proves his love again 1370 01:08:58,677 --> 01:09:01,054 and we come back. 1371 01:09:01,138 --> 01:09:07,019 We come back bigger, and stronger, and better. 1372 01:09:12,357 --> 01:09:18,071 "All things work for good to them that love god, 1373 01:09:18,989 --> 01:09:25,620 "to them who are called according to his purpose." 1374 01:09:33,670 --> 01:09:36,214 And I called you, roe. 1375 01:09:49,686 --> 01:09:51,730 You're welcome. 1376 01:09:55,359 --> 01:09:57,319 You're owed a "thank you"? 1377 01:09:58,820 --> 01:10:01,782 He was nowhere near saying yes until I sat down. 1378 01:10:01,865 --> 01:10:04,868 Oh, yes, to flirt with him. 1379 01:10:10,123 --> 01:10:12,042 Are you gonna divorce me, Jim? 1380 01:10:13,126 --> 01:10:14,127 I don't know. 1381 01:10:16,463 --> 01:10:17,464 I should. 1382 01:10:20,967 --> 01:10:23,178 But god hates divorce. 1383 01:10:23,261 --> 01:10:25,806 It ruined your mother. 1384 01:10:26,556 --> 01:10:28,100 It'll do the same to you. 1385 01:10:28,183 --> 01:10:30,268 You stopped paying attention to me, Jim. 1386 01:10:30,352 --> 01:10:33,146 You broke faith with me, Tammy! 1387 01:10:33,230 --> 01:10:38,151 Gary, he told me that I was beautiful and that I was talented. 1388 01:10:38,235 --> 01:10:39,670 And he wanted me, Jim. 1389 01:10:39,694 --> 01:10:40,854 Jim: Don't touch me! 1390 01:10:40,904 --> 01:10:44,533 Gary wanted me, Jim, in ways that you don't. 1391 01:10:44,616 --> 01:10:46,034 Jim: Oh, my goodness. 1392 01:10:46,118 --> 01:10:48,203 He was my friend. 1393 01:10:48,286 --> 01:10:51,039 You know, I got a letter this week, Tammy. 1394 01:10:51,123 --> 01:10:52,541 From the president. 1395 01:10:53,333 --> 01:10:55,502 The president of the United States, 1396 01:10:55,585 --> 01:10:58,130 Ronald Reagan himself, wrote me a personal letter 1397 01:10:58,213 --> 01:11:02,676 thanking me for my support in his election! 1398 01:11:03,301 --> 01:11:06,012 I'm an important man, Tammy Faye! 1399 01:11:06,096 --> 01:11:09,641 And people don't treat important men the way that you treated me. 1400 01:11:11,935 --> 01:11:14,146 I'm gonna clear my head, I'm gonna pray. 1401 01:11:15,605 --> 01:11:17,149 I'm gonna think about what I want. 1402 01:11:23,238 --> 01:11:24,739 Jim? 1403 01:11:47,471 --> 01:11:51,183 Tammy: Oh, god. How can / fix this? 1404 01:11:54,436 --> 01:11:55,979 God? 1405 01:11:58,315 --> 01:11:59,566 Where'd you go? 1406 01:12:00,775 --> 01:12:02,194 Where are you? 1407 01:12:03,653 --> 01:12:05,530 I/I/h y can't / feel you? 1408 01:12:08,408 --> 01:12:09,784 Where are you? 1409 01:12:11,786 --> 01:12:14,414 Oh... 1410 01:12:17,459 --> 01:12:18,877 Where are you? 1411 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,213 Tammy? Tammy, it's all right. 1412 01:12:21,296 --> 01:12:24,341 - Jim. - I'm here. I'm here. 1413 01:12:24,424 --> 01:12:27,093 It's all right. Shh. It's all right. 1414 01:12:34,184 --> 01:12:36,102 Tammy, I, um... 1415 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,732 I prayed on it. And, um... 1416 01:12:41,816 --> 01:12:42,817 What? 1417 01:12:43,527 --> 01:12:46,363 You know, maybe I've been a better builder 1418 01:12:46,446 --> 01:12:47,864 than I've been a husband. 1419 01:12:51,076 --> 01:12:52,494 - Yeah. - Yes. 1420 01:12:52,577 --> 01:12:55,372 But I know for certain 1421 01:12:56,164 --> 01:12:59,251 That you are the only woman on earth 1422 01:13:00,252 --> 01:13:02,087 who understands me. 1423 01:13:02,754 --> 01:13:05,465 Oh, honey. 1424 01:13:06,049 --> 01:13:07,968 It makes me so happy that you're saying that. 1425 01:13:08,552 --> 01:13:11,555 - Tammy. - Baby. 1426 01:13:11,638 --> 01:13:14,182 I'm sorry. 1427 01:13:15,183 --> 01:13:19,396 Oh... 1428 01:13:20,188 --> 01:13:22,440 You really hurt me. 1429 01:13:22,524 --> 01:13:24,734 I know, Jim. 1430 01:13:25,652 --> 01:13:28,113 And I think you have to apologize. 1431 01:13:28,196 --> 01:13:31,783 I'm sorry. Oh, I am so sorry, Jim. 1432 01:13:31,866 --> 01:13:33,201 To the partners. 1433 01:13:39,374 --> 01:13:40,375 Today. 1434 01:13:46,381 --> 01:13:51,094 I learned the best lesson in my whole life 1435 01:13:51,177 --> 01:13:54,723 because of something terrible that I did 1436 01:13:54,806 --> 01:13:56,224 that / cannot take back. 1437 01:13:57,976 --> 01:14:00,478 I learned how much / love my husband, 1438 01:14:00,562 --> 01:14:03,064 how much I care for my husband. 1439 01:14:04,649 --> 01:14:06,443 And I learned a lesson of loneliness 1440 01:14:06,526 --> 01:14:10,280 such as lne ver experienced in my whole life. 1441 01:14:12,741 --> 01:14:15,410 All of a sudden, I realized 1442 01:14:15,493 --> 01:14:18,830 that there was a lot more to marriage 1443 01:14:18,913 --> 01:14:20,832 than just the sparkles. 1444 01:14:22,876 --> 01:14:24,794 Woman: We're with you, Tammy! 1445 01:14:25,837 --> 01:14:27,255 - Woman 2: Ptl. - Man: Ptl. 1446 01:14:27,839 --> 01:14:30,425 - How can I help you? - Woman 3: Ah. Bless you. 1447 01:14:36,264 --> 01:14:39,225 Jim: Because of our satellite, from this moment on, 1448 01:14:39,309 --> 01:14:44,564 the ptl television network plans to broadcast 24 hours a day 1449 01:14:44,648 --> 01:14:47,651 till the second coming of Christ. 1450 01:14:47,734 --> 01:14:50,737 Jesus keeps on takin ' me h/gher and h/gher 1451 01:14:50,820 --> 01:14:54,491 s I n g e rs: H/gher and h/gher h/gher and h/gher 1452 01:14:54,574 --> 01:14:58,495 Jesus keeps on takin'me h/gher and h/gher 1453 01:14:58,578 --> 01:15:01,790 s I n g e rs: H/gher and h/gher h/gher and h/gher 1454 01:15:02,499 --> 01:15:03,619 hi, everybody! 1455 01:15:04,292 --> 01:15:07,087 God has a fixed law of giving. 1456 01:15:07,170 --> 01:15:08,505 He gives me a shove yeah 1457 01:15:08,588 --> 01:15:09,631 Jim: If you're not giving, 1458 01:15:09,714 --> 01:15:14,094 you cannot expect to have abundanc y coming back to you. 1459 01:15:14,177 --> 01:15:15,929 /f you aren't giving, 1460 01:15:16,012 --> 01:15:17,764 you're gonna have a harvest of misery/ 1461 01:15:17,847 --> 01:15:19,283 You're gonna have 1462 01:15:19,307 --> 01:15:20,517 -a harvest of pain/ -ptl. 1463 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,395 You're gonna have a harvest of sickness! 1464 01:15:23,478 --> 01:15:24,688 If you can't go to Jerusalem, 1465 01:15:24,771 --> 01:15:27,211 you could come to heritage and you could go to the upper room. 1466 01:15:27,273 --> 01:15:29,818 Exactly what you could see in Jerusalem. 1467 01:15:29,901 --> 01:15:31,695 Except you don't have to get on a plane. 1468 01:15:31,778 --> 01:15:33,238 You know, if everyone watching 1469 01:15:33,321 --> 01:15:35,740 could double their pledge just for one month... 1470 01:15:35,824 --> 01:15:39,494 If you haven't sent your pledge for $15 a month, 1471 01:15:39,577 --> 01:15:42,664 do it now and I want to send you susie moppet puppets. 1472 01:15:42,747 --> 01:15:46,251 God becomes your source when you give 1473 01:15:46,334 --> 01:15:49,045 and you sow in his kingdom. 1474 01:15:49,129 --> 01:15:51,047 It works. 1475 01:15:51,131 --> 01:15:53,508 Singers: Higher, higher, higher 1476 01:15:53,591 --> 01:15:54,884 I/I/hoo 1477 01:15:55,593 --> 01:15:57,178 wow 1478 01:15:57,262 --> 01:15:58,555 whoo 1479 01:15:58,638 --> 01:16:02,434 the ptl TV network is carrying out a master plan... 1480 01:16:02,517 --> 01:16:04,037 Opening centers all across the country 1481 01:16:04,102 --> 01:16:07,147 to provide fooo', clothing, furniture, and job bank centers. 1482 01:16:07,230 --> 01:16:10,400 Tammy: Jesus keeps on leadin ' me higher and higher 1483 01:16:14,821 --> 01:16:17,824 singers: Higher, higher higher, higher 1484 01:16:17,907 --> 01:16:19,534 hi, everybody. 1485 01:16:19,617 --> 01:16:22,787 Singers: Higher, higher higher, higher 1486 01:16:22,871 --> 01:16:25,582 higher, higher whoo 1487 01:16:25,665 --> 01:16:28,710 higher, higher, higher whoo 1488 01:16:28,793 --> 01:16:31,296 Jesus keeps on leadin ' me higher and higher 1489 01:16:31,379 --> 01:16:32,922 Jim: I've seen the rich 1490 01:16:33,006 --> 01:16:34,382 and I've seen people with little 1491 01:16:34,466 --> 01:16:37,010 who are more blessed 1492 01:16:37,093 --> 01:16:39,471 than the millionaires that I've known who are worried sick 1493 01:16:39,554 --> 01:16:41,723 'cause the stock market doesn't know what it's doing! 1494 01:16:41,806 --> 01:16:43,183 It's going up, it's going down! 1495 01:16:43,266 --> 01:16:46,603 But people who have sown seed in the word of god, 1496 01:16:46,686 --> 01:16:48,062 their stock is always up/ 1497 01:16:48,146 --> 01:16:51,357 higher and higher 1498 01:16:57,405 --> 01:16:58,948 Jim: That's why we chose this plot. 1499 01:16:59,032 --> 01:17:00,533 And with the help of your investment, 1500 01:17:00,617 --> 01:17:03,244 we could build a shopping complex around the hotel 1501 01:17:03,328 --> 01:17:05,038 and then we 're going to have a trolley. 1502 01:17:05,121 --> 01:17:06,164 Jerry: /I//m. 1503 01:17:06,247 --> 01:17:08,666 It's gonna wrap around the whole place, 1504 01:17:08,750 --> 01:17:12,337 making stops at everywhere there at heritage island, the heritage grand, 1505 01:17:12,420 --> 01:17:17,759 and then here at what is going to be our coliseum. 1506 01:17:17,842 --> 01:17:18,962 We're gonna have a coliseum. 1507 01:17:19,010 --> 01:17:20,404 - Jerry: Coliseum. - Yes. 1508 01:17:20,428 --> 01:17:23,515 You planning on sacrificing christians? 1509 01:17:24,516 --> 01:17:27,185 Oh, no. No. 1510 01:17:27,268 --> 01:17:31,022 Oh, Jerry, no. We rise again in our coliseum. 1511 01:17:31,105 --> 01:17:33,775 This is, uh, gonna be Christian rock concerts. 1512 01:17:33,858 --> 01:17:35,527 Something for the kids. 1513 01:17:35,610 --> 01:17:39,405 I really wish you wouldn't encourage these blasphemers. 1514 01:17:42,659 --> 01:17:44,994 - Isn't it beautiful? - It really is. Mm-hmm. 1515 01:17:46,162 --> 01:17:48,498 Jim: The trees, the oxygen is... 1516 01:17:48,581 --> 01:17:50,583 Are you cold? 1517 01:17:50,667 --> 01:17:52,669 Are you... 1518 01:17:52,752 --> 01:17:55,213 Stupid question. Of course you're not cold. 1519 01:17:55,296 --> 01:17:57,131 - Sorry. - Oh, I'm super. 1520 01:18:03,972 --> 01:18:05,157 Jim: So, what do you think, reverend? 1521 01:18:05,181 --> 01:18:08,059 We would be tickled pink to ha ve your support. 1522 01:18:08,142 --> 01:18:09,519 - Jerry: Jim? - Yes? 1523 01:18:09,602 --> 01:18:11,604 Jerry: The coalition that we delivered to Reagan, 1524 01:18:11,688 --> 01:18:13,731 vice president bush... 1525 01:18:13,815 --> 01:18:16,776 Well, he's counting on us doing the same thing for him in '88. 1526 01:18:19,821 --> 01:18:22,031 You know that pat called me 1527 01:18:22,115 --> 01:18:26,327 and he told me that he's thinking about making a bid for president. 1528 01:18:26,411 --> 01:18:28,538 Pat robertson's a good man. 1529 01:18:28,621 --> 01:18:31,708 But if he runs, he'll peel away vital republican votes. 1530 01:18:32,500 --> 01:18:34,085 We're in a fight here, Jim. 1531 01:18:34,794 --> 01:18:38,965 This gay cancer is affecting our country, our families. 1532 01:18:39,048 --> 01:18:41,509 Republicans can't win without us. 1533 01:18:43,052 --> 01:18:45,179 You need to understand how powerful we are 1534 01:18:45,263 --> 01:18:47,765 in this fight for our nation's soul. 1535 01:18:47,849 --> 01:18:49,517 Jim: Mm. 1536 01:18:49,601 --> 01:18:52,353 We should just stay out of it and keep politics out of the church. 1537 01:18:52,437 --> 01:18:54,606 Too much on the line. 1538 01:18:55,773 --> 01:19:00,904 Democrats are already trying to strip away our churches' tax exempt status. 1539 01:19:02,864 --> 01:19:06,784 Oh, this time, we'll keep the Evangelicals in the tent. 1540 01:19:08,703 --> 01:19:10,204 When's lunch? 1541 01:19:10,288 --> 01:19:11,390 Tammy: Well, hello, everyone, 1542 01:19:11,414 --> 01:19:13,291 it's just so nice to have you here with us. 1543 01:19:13,374 --> 01:19:17,420 We have an experience today that really is touching to me. 1544 01:19:17,503 --> 01:19:20,006 Right here on my right, I have a young man named Steve pieters, 1545 01:19:20,089 --> 01:19:22,091 and I'd like to introduce you to Steve. 1546 01:19:22,175 --> 01:19:24,844 Steve is a patient of aids 1547 01:19:24,928 --> 01:19:28,598 and he's so generously allowed us to talk to him today. 1548 01:19:28,681 --> 01:19:31,392 He is presently taking chemotherapy and is unable to travel. 1549 01:19:31,476 --> 01:19:35,772 So, we have a satellite hookup live from la. 1550 01:19:35,855 --> 01:19:38,524 - Hello, steve/ - Hi; Tammy. 1551 01:19:38,608 --> 01:19:40,526 We 're so glad to see you. 1552 01:19:41,361 --> 01:19:43,321 I'm so happy / could be here. 1553 01:19:43,404 --> 01:19:45,531 Okay, Steve. At what time in your life 1554 01:19:45,615 --> 01:19:48,117 did you feel like you were different? 1555 01:19:48,201 --> 01:19:51,412 Did you feel like maybe you weren't like some of the other guys? 1556 01:19:51,496 --> 01:19:55,458 Irea/izedl was gay when / was about 77 or 72. 1557 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,629 Ita/ked with a pastor in the church where / grew up 1558 01:19:59,712 --> 01:20:01,714 and, um, he was freaked out. 1559 01:20:02,882 --> 01:20:06,761 He told me, ”don't tell anybody. ” 1560 01:20:06,844 --> 01:20:10,264 Ne ver tell anybody anything about it 1561 01:20:10,348 --> 01:20:11,349 and it will go away, 1562 01:20:12,517 --> 01:20:15,103 but it didn't go away. 1563 01:20:15,186 --> 01:20:16,288 Okay, / ha ve another question. 1564 01:20:16,312 --> 01:20:17,915 Jerry: So, the satellite is directly above us? 1565 01:20:17,939 --> 01:20:19,941 Jim: Yes, it orbits us. 1566 01:20:20,024 --> 01:20:23,778 That's how we're able to reach so many folks just simultaneously. 1567 01:20:23,861 --> 01:20:25,655 Let me ask you, Jerry, what's your viewership 1568 01:20:25,738 --> 01:20:27,323 over at Liberty broadcasting? 1569 01:20:27,407 --> 01:20:31,536 Oh, well, I'm proud to say that we reach three million viewers a day. 1570 01:20:31,619 --> 01:20:35,498 My goodness. Praise god. That's just wonderful. 1571 01:20:37,041 --> 01:20:38,292 And you? 1572 01:20:38,376 --> 01:20:41,671 Well, we here at ptl, we reach 20 million viewers a day 1573 01:20:42,463 --> 01:20:46,384 in 56 countries just because of that miracle 1574 01:20:46,467 --> 01:20:48,404 up there in the sky. 1575 01:20:48,428 --> 01:20:50,138 Oh, let's see who Tammy's talking to. 1576 01:20:50,221 --> 01:20:51,824 Tammy: And, Steve, because of this feeling, 1577 01:20:51,848 --> 01:20:53,033 did you try to make friends with girls? 1578 01:20:53,057 --> 01:20:55,560 And did you try to be around girls and everything 1579 01:20:55,643 --> 01:20:56,870 so no one would think anything? 1580 01:20:56,894 --> 01:20:59,063 Oh, sure, ldated girls. 1581 01:20:59,147 --> 01:21:02,233 I tried to 'program” myself to be straight 1582 01:21:03,026 --> 01:21:04,819 and it never worked 1583 01:21:04,902 --> 01:21:06,279 Tammy: So, what made you feel... 1584 01:21:06,362 --> 01:21:07,613 And what's this, Jim? 1585 01:21:07,697 --> 01:21:09,675 Tammy: Like there was no way for you to be straight? 1586 01:21:09,699 --> 01:21:11,034 I don't know. 1587 01:21:11,117 --> 01:21:13,369 - This is not... - /t was from meeting 1588 01:21:13,453 --> 01:21:17,165 other gay people who were happy with the way they were 1589 01:21:17,248 --> 01:21:20,001 that made me realize I could be happy with the way I am. 1590 01:21:20,084 --> 01:21:22,462 Now, I find this problematic. 1591 01:21:22,545 --> 01:21:24,088 Yes. Well, you know Tammy, 1592 01:21:24,172 --> 01:21:26,382 she... She connects in her own way and... 1593 01:21:26,466 --> 01:21:28,843 Okay, Steve. What did you feel 1594 01:21:28,926 --> 01:21:32,597 when you first heard the word a/ds? 1595 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,515 Was it justa word to you, Steve? 1596 01:21:34,599 --> 01:21:38,311 Well, yes. Why would it hurt me? I was a good Christian pastor. 1597 01:21:38,394 --> 01:21:40,521 I... I can't look at this. 1598 01:21:40,605 --> 01:21:41,981 Jim: No. 1599 01:21:42,065 --> 01:21:43,900 She must have programmed it last minute or... 1600 01:21:43,983 --> 01:21:45,294 You need to get her under control. 1601 01:21:45,318 --> 01:21:47,028 No, no. Let me help. 1602 01:21:47,737 --> 01:21:50,782 Believe you me, I will be having words with her. 1603 01:21:50,865 --> 01:21:52,200 - She's been acting very... - Jim. 1604 01:21:52,283 --> 01:21:53,284 Yes? 1605 01:21:53,367 --> 01:21:55,369 We have our differences. 1606 01:21:55,912 --> 01:21:58,372 People forget sometimes a pastor needs a pastor. 1607 01:21:58,456 --> 01:22:00,208 Steve: As Jesus says in Mark 5... 1608 01:22:01,167 --> 01:22:02,502 Reach out. 1609 01:22:02,585 --> 01:22:03,961 Yes. 1610 01:22:05,463 --> 01:22:07,183 What happened when you told your mom and dad 1611 01:22:07,256 --> 01:22:08,400 that you were feeling this way? 1612 01:22:08,424 --> 01:22:11,260 - Well, my mother cried -uh-huh. 1613 01:22:11,344 --> 01:22:14,013 And my father held my hand 1614 01:22:14,097 --> 01:22:16,808 and told me that I was his son, no matter what. 1615 01:22:17,892 --> 01:22:19,393 Ah, thank god. 1616 01:22:19,477 --> 01:22:23,147 You know, thank god for a mom and dad 1617 01:22:23,231 --> 01:22:25,233 who will stand with a young person. 1618 01:22:25,316 --> 01:22:26,776 I think that's so important 1619 01:22:26,859 --> 01:22:29,570 because no matter what happens to a young person in their lives, 1620 01:22:29,654 --> 01:22:32,448 they're still your boy, they're still your girl 1621 01:22:32,532 --> 01:22:34,009 no matter what happens in their life. 1622 01:22:34,033 --> 01:22:35,368 And I think it's very important 1623 01:22:35,451 --> 01:22:38,955 that we as mom and dads love through anything. 1624 01:22:39,038 --> 01:22:41,040 And that's the way with Jesus, you know? 1625 01:22:41,124 --> 01:22:43,126 Jesus loves us through anything. 1626 01:22:43,209 --> 01:22:45,378 Jesus loves me just the way I am. 1627 01:22:45,461 --> 01:22:47,964 Jesus loves the way that / love. 1628 01:22:49,048 --> 01:22:51,050 And have you found it to be true 1629 01:22:51,134 --> 01:22:52,844 that people wanna stay away 1630 01:22:52,927 --> 01:22:55,888 and that they're afraid to be in the same room as you 1631 01:22:55,972 --> 01:22:57,807 and breathe the same air that you breathe? 1632 01:22:59,267 --> 01:23:00,268 Yes, Tammy. 1633 01:23:00,852 --> 01:23:03,312 And how sad is that? 1634 01:23:03,396 --> 01:23:05,356 That we as christians 1635 01:23:06,107 --> 01:23:09,152 who are supposed to love everyone 1636 01:23:09,902 --> 01:23:12,780 are afraid so badly of an aids patient 1637 01:23:13,656 --> 01:23:16,117 that we will not go up to them 1638 01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,452 and put our arm around them 1639 01:23:18,536 --> 01:23:21,122 and tell them that we care? 1640 01:23:27,128 --> 01:23:29,172 This is an emotional interview for me. 1641 01:23:29,255 --> 01:23:30,381 I just met Steve 1642 01:23:30,464 --> 01:23:32,967 and it's like meeting him in person for the first time. 1643 01:23:33,050 --> 01:23:34,552 I wanna put my arm around you. 1644 01:23:34,635 --> 01:23:36,596 And / wanna put my arms around you, Tammy Faye. 1645 01:23:42,268 --> 01:23:44,353 - Woman: Ptl. - Man: Ptl. 1646 01:23:45,855 --> 01:23:47,190 Woman: That's very good. Yes. 1647 01:23:49,066 --> 01:23:50,752 Woman 2: Every time she calls, she screams, 1648 01:23:50,776 --> 01:23:52,195 "Jim and his buddy had sex on me." 1649 01:23:52,278 --> 01:23:53,714 - Fletcher: Okay. Shh. - "Now, I'm gonna kill myself. 1650 01:23:53,738 --> 01:23:55,907 "Jim bakker'll have my gosh darn blood on his hands." 1651 01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:56,991 Fletcher: Now... 1652 01:23:57,074 --> 01:23:58,552 Woman 2: Never heard so many curse words. 1653 01:23:58,576 --> 01:24:00,578 - Not even from my brother Pete. - Fletcher: Right. 1654 01:24:00,661 --> 01:24:02,264 - Did a caller upset you, dear? - Fletcher: Tammy... 1655 01:24:02,288 --> 01:24:03,331 Yes. 1656 01:24:03,414 --> 01:24:05,574 Oh, I'm so sorry. You know, when we do shows like this, 1657 01:24:05,625 --> 01:24:08,961 really, we're challenging christians to open their hearts. 1658 01:24:09,045 --> 01:24:11,231 - And some don't take it that well. - Tammy, I will handle this. 1659 01:24:11,255 --> 01:24:12,715 Oh, no, I have this, Richard. 1660 01:24:12,798 --> 01:24:14,800 It wasn't about the aids man. It was about Jim. 1661 01:24:15,927 --> 01:24:17,967 She's called before. We all call her "the shrieker." 1662 01:24:18,012 --> 01:24:20,139 She says Jim and his buddy had sex on her. 1663 01:24:20,223 --> 01:24:22,099 Tammy, you're needed on stage four. 1664 01:24:22,183 --> 01:24:24,852 Gosh, we've been having these pranks for a long time. 1665 01:24:24,936 --> 01:24:26,938 And some people, they're just hurting so bad 1666 01:24:27,021 --> 01:24:29,857 and we just need to love them. 1667 01:24:29,941 --> 01:24:32,151 Anyway, Jim doesn't have that in him. Believe me. 1668 01:24:33,486 --> 01:24:35,279 I know him better than anyone. 1669 01:24:58,761 --> 01:25:00,221 Join the ptl club, 1670 01:25:00,304 --> 01:25:03,057 and Tammy wants to send you a copy of her book... 1671 01:25:03,140 --> 01:25:07,228 About how to overcome fear. 1672 01:25:07,311 --> 01:25:09,605 If you haven't sent in your pledge... 1673 01:25:10,356 --> 01:25:12,441 $15, that is all, $15 a month, 1674 01:25:12,525 --> 01:25:14,568 it'll change your life 1675 01:25:15,278 --> 01:25:17,655 and, uh, we could all use a little bit of that. 1676 01:25:17,738 --> 01:25:20,616 So, Tammy, I think you oughta sing a song for us. 1677 01:25:20,700 --> 01:25:22,868 Oh, I'm back here looking at the boat, Jim. 1678 01:25:22,952 --> 01:25:25,329 - /sn't this a magnificent thing? - J I m: Yes. 1679 01:25:25,413 --> 01:25:26,956 Right here in our beach. 1680 01:25:27,039 --> 01:25:28,541 Jim: Looks brand new, I bet. 1681 01:25:29,500 --> 01:25:30,686 One of the local boat companies 1682 01:25:30,710 --> 01:25:32,604 - loaned it to us, I bet. - I'm gonna take my shoes off. 1683 01:25:32,628 --> 01:25:34,213 I'm gonna Wade in the water. 1684 01:25:34,839 --> 01:25:37,591 Jim: I don't think that boat's ever seen water. 1685 01:25:38,509 --> 01:25:40,469 Oh, it's fake. That's... 1686 01:25:41,679 --> 01:25:42,888 That's why. 1687 01:25:44,932 --> 01:25:46,517 "That's why“ what, tam? 1688 01:25:48,894 --> 01:25:50,813 Tam my: That's why / can't hear him. 1689 01:25:50,896 --> 01:25:51,897 Jim: Oh. 1690 01:25:53,065 --> 01:25:55,568 How can I hear him when the sky is fake? 1691 01:25:56,527 --> 01:25:57,847 Jim: You want to stand up, honey? 1692 01:25:57,903 --> 01:25:59,613 We're trying to do a TV show here, baby. 1693 01:25:59,697 --> 01:26:01,324 You wanna come give me some help? 1694 01:26:02,033 --> 01:26:03,284 No? Well... 1695 01:26:07,246 --> 01:26:09,999 I guess it's a good time as any to work on the tan. 1696 01:26:12,626 --> 01:26:15,588 Well, if Tammy's not going to sing, I guess I am. 1697 01:26:15,671 --> 01:26:16,797 Oh, we're blest 1698 01:26:16,881 --> 01:26:17,923 we 're blest, we 're blest 1699 01:26:20,843 --> 01:26:22,136 Jim: We just got her home. 1700 01:26:22,219 --> 01:26:24,388 She's doing okay, she's fine. 1701 01:26:24,472 --> 01:26:28,768 No, yeah. We'll be taking her to the Betty Ford center in the morning. 1702 01:26:28,851 --> 01:26:32,605 She just needs to rest. No shows for a while. 1703 01:26:33,230 --> 01:26:35,524 What's happening with the other thing? 1704 01:26:37,318 --> 01:26:40,696 Can I just say I love you so much? 1705 01:26:40,780 --> 01:26:43,032 I love you. 1706 01:26:43,115 --> 01:26:47,161 My friends are gonna be so excited when I tell them that I met you. 1707 01:26:54,210 --> 01:26:55,795 Rachel: Tammy? 1708 01:26:55,878 --> 01:26:58,589 You had enough drugs in your system to kill a truck driver. 1709 01:26:59,757 --> 01:27:00,758 I did? 1710 01:27:00,841 --> 01:27:02,885 The doctor told us if you'd waited a day longer, 1711 01:27:02,968 --> 01:27:04,929 you would have had brain damage. 1712 01:27:05,012 --> 01:27:06,430 You could have died. 1713 01:27:07,264 --> 01:27:10,184 You can't take all those pills, honey. They're addictive. 1714 01:27:10,267 --> 01:27:12,103 I didn't know that. I'll stop. 1715 01:27:12,186 --> 01:27:14,313 The doctors didn't tell me that. 1716 01:27:14,397 --> 01:27:16,440 I'm not a drug addict. 1717 01:27:17,733 --> 01:27:19,485 I'm only addicted to diet coke. 1718 01:27:20,611 --> 01:27:22,863 You have to stay right here. 1719 01:27:24,448 --> 01:27:25,825 God doesn't want you yet. 1720 01:27:26,951 --> 01:27:29,036 I have always prayed to him 1721 01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:32,498 that he would allow you to save the souls that I wasn't able to. 1722 01:27:33,874 --> 01:27:35,292 And he has. 1723 01:27:36,293 --> 01:27:37,294 You do. 1724 01:27:38,712 --> 01:27:41,632 So, you have to stay right here. 1725 01:27:43,926 --> 01:27:44,927 Okay? 1726 01:27:46,178 --> 01:27:47,513 Okay, mom. 1727 01:28:24,842 --> 01:28:26,051 Jim: Tammy. 1728 01:28:26,135 --> 01:28:27,845 Oh. Hi, Jim. 1729 01:28:30,848 --> 01:28:32,808 The devil's coming for me, Tammy. 1730 01:28:34,643 --> 01:28:36,187 Can we talk about Satan later? 1731 01:28:36,270 --> 01:28:39,773 You know, I'm trying to feel like myself again. 1732 01:28:39,857 --> 01:28:41,358 Jim: There was a woman... 1733 01:28:44,945 --> 01:28:46,155 Fletcher set it up 1734 01:28:47,281 --> 01:28:51,785 after you did what you did with Gary. 1735 01:28:52,953 --> 01:28:56,373 I did it to prove something to myself, I think. I... I don't know. 1736 01:28:57,625 --> 01:28:58,834 I hated it. 1737 01:29:01,921 --> 01:29:04,632 I ended upjust crying in the bathroom. 1738 01:29:12,097 --> 01:29:13,098 Ifell... 1739 01:29:15,100 --> 01:29:16,352 A long way. 1740 01:29:18,437 --> 01:29:19,522 I'm so sorry. 1741 01:29:24,527 --> 01:29:25,611 Say something. 1742 01:29:30,074 --> 01:29:31,867 I've been hurting so bad, Jim. 1743 01:29:33,035 --> 01:29:34,245 For years. 1744 01:29:36,747 --> 01:29:39,083 And there's never any release to the pain. 1745 01:29:41,001 --> 01:29:43,420 There's never anything to make it stop hurting. 1746 01:29:45,172 --> 01:29:47,174 And when I get up in the morning, 1747 01:29:48,342 --> 01:29:50,261 I feel like I'm just gonna throw up... 1748 01:29:51,554 --> 01:29:54,098 And throw up, and throw up. 1749 01:29:56,225 --> 01:29:59,562 And I have to self-talk myself, "you can make it, Tammy. 1750 01:30:00,062 --> 01:30:01,855 "You can make it. 1751 01:30:01,939 --> 01:30:03,607 "Don't give up." 1752 01:30:08,737 --> 01:30:11,073 Damn it, Jim! 1753 01:30:12,866 --> 01:30:17,663 I'm so sick from my faith in you! 1754 01:30:21,041 --> 01:30:23,502 Well, I'm sick of you, too. 1755 01:30:26,088 --> 01:30:29,341 You try being married to Tammy Faye. 1756 01:30:30,050 --> 01:30:34,179 All I've been doing is trying to keep our marriage together, 1757 01:30:34,263 --> 01:30:37,641 keep the ministry together, working night and day 1758 01:30:37,725 --> 01:30:40,811 while you're just buying minks 1759 01:30:40,894 --> 01:30:43,230 and drinking soda pop 1760 01:30:43,314 --> 01:30:46,984 and cheating on me with that ape! 1761 01:30:50,988 --> 01:30:53,449 You used to take care of me, Tammy. 1762 01:30:54,325 --> 01:30:55,826 You stopped taking care of me. 1763 01:30:55,909 --> 01:30:58,329 I don't wanna take care of you, Jim. 1764 01:30:58,412 --> 01:31:00,331 I don't wanna be your mother. 1765 01:31:00,956 --> 01:31:03,667 A woman needs a man in a relationship! 1766 01:31:03,751 --> 01:31:06,003 - I am a man! - You're a boy. 1767 01:31:06,086 --> 01:31:07,766 I built all of this. I built you an empire. 1768 01:31:07,838 --> 01:31:09,882 You built you an empire. 1769 01:31:09,965 --> 01:31:12,718 No man could ever give you enough. 1770 01:31:12,801 --> 01:31:15,137 You're a bottomless pit. 1771 01:31:15,888 --> 01:31:18,682 And you keep on asking me for more 1772 01:31:18,766 --> 01:31:23,354 with that whiny, grating Betty boop voice! 1773 01:31:39,578 --> 01:31:41,080 I thought you liked Betty boop. 1774 01:31:44,833 --> 01:31:45,918 I'm sorry. 1775 01:31:47,044 --> 01:31:48,879 I'm so sorry, Tammy. 1776 01:31:49,380 --> 01:31:50,589 Me, too, Jim. 1777 01:31:51,256 --> 01:31:52,800 Um... 1778 01:31:55,344 --> 01:31:58,847 There's another thing. The woman... 1779 01:32:00,683 --> 01:32:05,020 I gave her money to stay quiet, but she didn't. 1780 01:32:05,771 --> 01:32:06,772 And, um... 1781 01:32:06,855 --> 01:32:09,191 And the money came from ptl donors. 1782 01:32:09,274 --> 01:32:10,275 Jim. 1783 01:32:10,359 --> 01:32:12,337 And Charles Shepard has the story from the observer. 1784 01:32:12,361 --> 01:32:13,672 And he's gonna print it tomorrow. 1785 01:32:13,696 --> 01:32:15,614 Oh, my god. 1786 01:32:19,118 --> 01:32:22,162 - Jim: I just... I know... - Jim. Oh, my god. 1787 01:32:24,373 --> 01:32:26,208 I destroyed everything. 1788 01:32:28,001 --> 01:32:29,878 Our life's work, Jim. 1789 01:32:29,962 --> 01:32:30,963 I know. 1790 01:32:31,922 --> 01:32:33,090 Tammy. 1791 01:32:35,050 --> 01:32:37,803 Tam, my sweetheart, 1792 01:32:39,304 --> 01:32:41,598 if anyone falls, it's gonna be me. 1793 01:32:42,599 --> 01:32:45,853 You can let me be the man that I was meant to be for you. 1794 01:32:47,229 --> 01:32:48,647 You don't know anything. 1795 01:32:52,526 --> 01:32:53,986 Oh, they're here. 1796 01:32:54,069 --> 01:32:55,112 Who's that? 1797 01:32:55,195 --> 01:32:56,196 It's all right. 1798 01:32:56,280 --> 01:33:00,701 These are the men that are gonna help me fix this. 1799 01:33:00,784 --> 01:33:02,119 Oh, no, Jim. 1800 01:33:02,202 --> 01:33:05,038 - No, no. - Reverend. Thank you so much. 1801 01:33:05,122 --> 01:33:06,882 - Thank you so much for coming. - Jerry: Jim. 1802 01:33:06,915 --> 01:33:08,792 Oh, it's love that carried me here today. 1803 01:33:08,876 --> 01:33:11,503 Jim: God bless you. Jerry: Tammy Faye. 1804 01:33:12,004 --> 01:33:13,172 Jerry. 1805 01:33:13,255 --> 01:33:15,132 Jim: Come in, please. Please come in. Welcome. 1806 01:33:15,215 --> 01:33:17,217 Thank you. Thank you for coming, fellas. 1807 01:33:17,301 --> 01:33:18,343 All right. 1808 01:33:19,219 --> 01:33:20,804 Well, here we are. 1809 01:33:20,888 --> 01:33:22,556 Jerry: We think it's best 1810 01:33:23,307 --> 01:33:26,143 that we create a distance between you and the ministry. 1811 01:33:26,226 --> 01:33:28,312 It'll only be for a couple of weeks. 1812 01:33:28,395 --> 01:33:31,398 Then, gradually, we'll bring you back on the network 1813 01:33:31,982 --> 01:33:34,151 after all this unpleasantness settles down. 1814 01:33:34,234 --> 01:33:37,446 Jerry, you're a baptist. You know, you're not a charismatic. 1815 01:33:37,529 --> 01:33:39,656 And our audience won't like that. 1816 01:33:39,740 --> 01:33:41,617 - Right, Jim? - Audience? 1817 01:33:41,700 --> 01:33:43,535 I thought they were parishioners. 1818 01:33:43,619 --> 01:33:45,037 They are. 1819 01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,206 They're our partners. We call them partners. 1820 01:33:47,289 --> 01:33:48,665 Jerry: Mm. 1821 01:33:48,749 --> 01:33:50,501 20 million souls a day 1822 01:33:50,584 --> 01:33:53,754 touched by the word. Thanks to ptl. 1823 01:33:53,837 --> 01:33:55,214 Jim and Tammy: Mm. 1824 01:33:55,297 --> 01:33:56,977 Jerry: You go back there right away, and... 1825 01:33:58,467 --> 01:33:59,885 Well, bless your hearts. 1826 01:33:59,968 --> 01:34:02,763 Look at the two of you right now, so very pitiful. 1827 01:34:03,847 --> 01:34:06,433 They see you, and they'll change the channel. 1828 01:34:08,602 --> 01:34:09,728 Jim, 1829 01:34:09,812 --> 01:34:12,481 all those souls you won 1830 01:34:13,273 --> 01:34:14,900 for Jesus... 1831 01:34:16,735 --> 01:34:18,320 I'm here for you. 1832 01:34:19,112 --> 01:34:21,114 - Jim: Thank you, reverend. - Jerry: Mm. 1833 01:34:24,993 --> 01:34:27,204 Just make sure you take care of our partners. 1834 01:34:28,664 --> 01:34:30,624 That is the only thing that matters now. 1835 01:34:41,218 --> 01:34:42,928 Announcer: You're watching ptl, 1836 01:34:43,011 --> 01:34:44,930 the inspirational network. 1837 01:34:47,975 --> 01:34:50,018 Tammy and I are so very glad 1838 01:34:50,102 --> 01:34:54,147 that we've been granted the opportunity to talk with you today, 1839 01:34:54,857 --> 01:34:56,108 and, um... 1840 01:34:56,191 --> 01:34:57,276 Say hello. 1841 01:34:57,776 --> 01:34:59,319 Hello, everybody. 1842 01:34:59,987 --> 01:35:00,988 And... 1843 01:35:02,030 --> 01:35:04,199 We want to say to you 1844 01:35:04,283 --> 01:35:09,371 that we are so very, very sorry. 1845 01:35:09,454 --> 01:35:12,875 And to thank the people who are standing with us all over, 1846 01:35:12,958 --> 01:35:15,627 saying, "Jim, we do forgive you. 1847 01:35:15,711 --> 01:35:19,256 "We forgive Jim and Tammy of all of their sins." 1848 01:35:19,339 --> 01:35:23,385 And we're so thankful that god has forgiven us. 1849 01:35:23,468 --> 01:35:27,723 We don't know what the future holds, but I believe, Tammy. 1850 01:35:28,223 --> 01:35:30,350 'Cause the god I know is still god. 1851 01:35:30,434 --> 01:35:33,312 I believe that the sun will shine again. 1852 01:35:33,395 --> 01:35:34,688 Oh, I do, too, Jim. 1853 01:35:34,771 --> 01:35:37,107 Do you wanna sing it? Can you do it? 1854 01:35:37,190 --> 01:35:38,901 - I sure will. - All right. 1855 01:35:38,984 --> 01:35:42,237 All right, Tammy Faye is going to sing a song for us. 1856 01:35:44,448 --> 01:35:47,367 Tammy: Well, maybe you're hurting, and you need this song today, too. 1857 01:35:47,451 --> 01:35:51,121 So I'll sing it for both of us, okay? 1858 01:35:51,204 --> 01:35:55,334 Female chorus: The sun will shine again 1859 01:35:56,251 --> 01:36:02,674 now, if you are facing a mountain so high 1860 01:36:02,758 --> 01:36:08,680 that just won't move away 1861 01:36:09,890 --> 01:36:13,393 j e rry: We've heard about your sinful beha vior. 1862 01:36:13,977 --> 01:36:17,940 If you tell us what we need to know about Jim bakker, 1863 01:36:19,358 --> 01:36:20,525 we can protect you. 1864 01:36:21,485 --> 01:36:24,905 Tammy: Oh-ho, listen, my brother 1865 01:36:24,988 --> 01:36:27,532 we don't want them destitute. 1866 01:36:28,116 --> 01:36:29,952 They're children of god. 1867 01:36:30,744 --> 01:36:31,954 We want to make sure 1868 01:36:32,037 --> 01:36:35,707 we don't leave them stranded in the desert. 1869 01:36:44,257 --> 01:36:46,510 Write it down, what you make, 1870 01:36:46,593 --> 01:36:49,012 what you need, every little thing. 1871 01:36:49,096 --> 01:36:50,722 While you're in your time of healing, 1872 01:36:50,806 --> 01:36:53,976 he wants you to be safe and provided for. 1873 01:36:54,559 --> 01:36:56,687 I told him how fragile you are. 1874 01:36:57,187 --> 01:37:00,399 He wants to help. He told me so himself. 1875 01:37:02,401 --> 01:37:04,152 Jim: You wanna start us off, honey? 1876 01:37:07,197 --> 01:37:09,437 - What should I write, Jim? - Jim: Start with everything. 1877 01:37:09,491 --> 01:37:11,201 Start with what you need for clothes. 1878 01:37:11,284 --> 01:37:12,869 What's your salary, Jim? 1879 01:37:12,953 --> 01:37:15,455 Jim: One second. I'll try calling Jerry again. 1880 01:37:15,539 --> 01:37:18,208 He hasn't returned any of my calls. 1881 01:37:18,709 --> 01:37:22,337 Tammy: The other side whose storm 1882 01:37:22,421 --> 01:37:25,882 is going to end 1883 01:37:26,883 --> 01:37:29,720 well, your midnight's almost over 1884 01:37:29,803 --> 01:37:32,889 "Jim's salary for a lifetime 1885 01:37:32,973 --> 01:37:34,599 "at 300,000 per year. 1886 01:37:34,683 --> 01:37:38,603 “Tammy's salary for a lifetime at 100,000 a year. 1887 01:37:38,687 --> 01:37:40,939 "Secretary for one year. Phone bill. 1888 01:37:41,023 --> 01:37:44,359 "House on the lake. Security. Personal maid." 1889 01:37:47,195 --> 01:37:49,448 I don't see the repentance there. 1890 01:37:51,616 --> 01:37:55,495 I see the greed. I see the self-centeredness. 1891 01:37:55,579 --> 01:37:59,374 I see the avarice that brought them down. 1892 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,711 Jim, I have sat across the table 1893 01:38:02,794 --> 01:38:06,423 from men who have told me about your homosexual advances. 1894 01:38:07,382 --> 01:38:11,595 And since then, I ha ve learned of fiscal irregularities. 1895 01:38:12,304 --> 01:38:14,389 It would be a disservice to god, Jim... 1896 01:38:14,473 --> 01:38:15,682 It's all over. 1897 01:38:15,766 --> 01:38:19,019 And to the church at large if / allowed you to come back. 1898 01:38:19,102 --> 01:38:20,353 I've been had. 1899 01:38:21,271 --> 01:38:25,192 How could you have trusted people like that? 1900 01:38:26,109 --> 01:38:29,988 You understand that I can't allow you to stay here. 1901 01:38:31,281 --> 01:38:35,494 Your home, and everything in it, belongs to the ministry. 1902 01:38:36,787 --> 01:38:39,289 Your midnight's almost over. 1903 01:38:39,372 --> 01:38:44,002 And thank god, the sun is going to shine again. 1904 01:38:44,086 --> 01:38:46,296 Praise, praise in the name of the lord. 1905 01:38:46,379 --> 01:38:48,673 The charges being made against you right now 1906 01:38:48,757 --> 01:38:53,011 are, in effect, that you stole ptl blind 1907 01:38:53,095 --> 01:38:55,972 while ptl was suffering through months after months 1908 01:38:56,056 --> 01:38:58,475 of $2 million negative balances, 1909 01:38:58,558 --> 01:39:00,268 you were paying yourself bonuses, 1910 01:39:00,352 --> 01:39:02,062 - you were paying Tammy Faye bonuses. - No. 1911 01:39:02,145 --> 01:39:05,190 I don't know if you ever have a positive balance in a ministry, Jim. 1912 01:39:05,273 --> 01:39:07,442 I've never known anyone to have a positive one. 1913 01:39:07,526 --> 01:39:09,778 We 're... we 're always playing catch-up. 1914 01:39:10,237 --> 01:39:13,156 N ewscaster 1: Jim bakker went on trial on charges of fraud today. 1915 01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:14,449 The prosecution called bakker, 1916 01:39:14,533 --> 01:39:15,843 'a man corrupted by love of money and luxury. ” 1917 01:39:15,867 --> 01:39:18,137 The founder of the no w-bankrupt ptl ministry swindled followers 1918 01:39:18,161 --> 01:39:20,497 out of millions of dollars to support a la vish lifestyle. 1919 01:39:20,580 --> 01:39:23,375 Newscaster 2: One couple showed up in Jim and Tammy Faye masks. 1920 01:39:23,458 --> 01:39:25,770 N ewscaster 3: Couple million dollars in ptl cash for their personal use. 1921 01:39:25,794 --> 01:39:28,338 Ted: How much money did you earn last year? 1922 01:39:28,421 --> 01:39:32,676 Salary, bonuses, and dividends, and royalties... 1923 01:39:32,759 --> 01:39:35,470 - No idea? You're starting... - / don't ha ve the exact figure. 1924 01:39:35,554 --> 01:39:37,472 - Ted: Not exactly. - / honestly, honest... 1925 01:39:37,556 --> 01:39:40,225 I do not know how much / make. I never thought about it. 1926 01:39:40,308 --> 01:39:42,352 - She don't. - / really don't. 1927 01:39:42,811 --> 01:39:44,855 N ews cast e r: To raise desperately needed cash, 1928 01:39:44,938 --> 01:39:47,399 ptl is auctioning off opulent personal items 1929 01:39:47,482 --> 01:39:49,442 deposed e vange/ists Jim and Tammy bakker 1930 01:39:49,526 --> 01:39:50,735 bought with church donations. 1931 01:39:50,819 --> 01:39:53,280 They also brought new charges of moral failure. 1932 01:39:53,363 --> 01:39:54,882 Newscaster 2: Having sex with reverend Jim bakker. 1933 01:39:54,906 --> 01:39:56,116 Newscaster 3: Jessica hahn, 1934 01:39:56,199 --> 01:39:59,035 bakker personally directed the payment of ptl hush money. 1935 01:39:59,119 --> 01:40:00,912 We grieve for the impact all of this has had 1936 01:40:00,996 --> 01:40:03,039 upon the entire Christian community. 1937 01:40:03,123 --> 01:40:07,377 Te d: As for the homosexual advances going back to 7956, 1938 01:40:07,460 --> 01:40:09,129 - you're saying that's a lie. - Yes. Yes. 1939 01:40:09,212 --> 01:40:12,424 Yes, that's... that's... that's true. 1940 01:40:12,507 --> 01:40:14,569 - What are you saying? - That's... that's a lie. 1941 01:40:14,593 --> 01:40:17,053 Yes. Yes. And, you know, 1942 01:40:17,137 --> 01:40:19,055 people need to know 1943 01:40:19,139 --> 01:40:23,727 that god loves homosexuals. 1944 01:40:24,186 --> 01:40:25,937 Preachers have to be awfully pious. 1945 01:40:26,021 --> 01:40:28,273 And when they fall from grace, they fall harder. 1946 01:40:28,356 --> 01:40:29,357 People laugh. 1947 01:40:29,441 --> 01:40:31,401 Tammy, we have a bit of goop on our face. 1948 01:40:31,484 --> 01:40:33,129 You've taken her makeup off 1949 01:40:34,988 --> 01:40:36,948 I saw his wife. Lheard the accusations, 1950 01:40:37,032 --> 01:40:38,992 wife-swapping, homosexuality. 1951 01:40:39,075 --> 01:40:40,702 Have you seen this Woman? 1952 01:40:40,785 --> 01:40:43,413 I'd swap her for a can of soup. 1953 01:40:43,496 --> 01:40:45,457 Reporter: National news, special report. 1954 01:40:45,540 --> 01:40:49,169 Jim bakker was found guilty on all 24 counts of wire and... 1955 01:40:49,252 --> 01:40:51,129 - Guilty. - Guilty. 1956 01:40:51,213 --> 01:40:55,008 He now faces up to a 720 years in prison 1957 01:40:55,091 --> 01:40:57,010 and $5 million in fines. 1958 01:40:57,093 --> 01:40:58,511 Tammy: Ted, can / say something? 1959 01:40:58,595 --> 01:40:59,846 Ted: Sure. 1960 01:40:59,930 --> 01:41:03,975 I just wanna say, remember, god loves you. 1961 01:41:04,059 --> 01:41:07,395 I wanna say that, too. God loves you. 1962 01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:10,232 - He really does. B ye-b ye. - He really, really does. 1963 01:41:10,315 --> 01:41:12,635 Ted: All right. Thank you both very much for being with us. 1964 01:41:12,776 --> 01:41:13,777 Woman: We're clear. 1965 01:41:37,968 --> 01:41:39,970 It's all right, honey. Don't cry. 1966 01:41:44,766 --> 01:41:46,351 No. 1967 01:41:46,434 --> 01:41:48,728 I didn't do anything. Please. 1968 01:41:51,690 --> 01:41:52,899 Tammy: I have a song for you. 1969 01:41:53,817 --> 01:41:55,694 On Christ 1970 01:41:55,777 --> 01:42:00,282 the solid rock / stand 1971 01:42:00,365 --> 01:42:06,746 all other ground is sinking sand 1972 01:42:07,247 --> 01:42:14,170 all other ground is sinking sand 1973 01:42:23,013 --> 01:42:24,014 Tammy: God... 1974 01:42:25,098 --> 01:42:28,059 I followed you ever since I was a little girl. 1975 01:42:31,146 --> 01:42:32,439 I loved you. 1976 01:42:34,691 --> 01:42:36,151 I served you. 1977 01:42:39,321 --> 01:42:40,864 And I worked for you. 1978 01:42:44,451 --> 01:42:45,452 God... 1979 01:42:48,747 --> 01:42:50,373 Where have you gone? 1980 01:42:52,125 --> 01:42:55,045 It's not over till it's over. 1981 01:43:31,456 --> 01:43:33,541 Hey. Sorry I'm late. 1982 01:43:33,625 --> 01:43:34,876 Tammy: Oh. 1983 01:43:36,044 --> 01:43:38,463 - Nice to meet ya. I'm Tammy. - Nice to meet you. Stephen. 1984 01:43:38,546 --> 01:43:40,298 All right. You need a water or anything? 1985 01:43:40,382 --> 01:43:41,549 - Oh, no, I'm good. - Okay. 1986 01:43:42,133 --> 01:43:43,301 My new headshot. 1987 01:43:43,385 --> 01:43:45,970 Yeah, all right. Nice. 1988 01:43:46,471 --> 01:43:48,348 All right. So... 1989 01:43:48,431 --> 01:43:50,350 I hear you're here to pitch me something. 1990 01:43:50,433 --> 01:43:53,520 Oh. So I should... I'll... yeah. 1991 01:43:53,603 --> 01:43:55,939 So, I have two ideas for you, Stephen. 1992 01:43:56,022 --> 01:43:58,858 And then I'd like to hear what you see me doing. 1993 01:43:58,942 --> 01:44:00,402 Okay. 1994 01:44:00,485 --> 01:44:04,322 Okay. Um, the first one is about puppets. 1995 01:44:04,406 --> 01:44:06,783 I mean, it's serious, but it's also funny. 1996 01:44:06,866 --> 01:44:10,036 It's a talk show but with puppets. 1997 01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:11,788 And it's for kids and also for adults. 1998 01:44:11,871 --> 01:44:16,376 And it's a way for people to talk about their problems, 1999 01:44:16,459 --> 01:44:17,836 but with puppets. 2000 01:44:19,754 --> 01:44:20,755 Okay. 2001 01:44:22,715 --> 01:44:25,218 Okay, I have something else for you, Stephen. 2002 01:44:25,301 --> 01:44:27,429 - Oh, okay, another one. - It's for teenagers. 2003 01:44:27,512 --> 01:44:30,223 You know, the biggest problem that they say is, 2004 01:44:30,306 --> 01:44:33,393 "how can we get people to listen to us?" 2005 01:44:33,476 --> 01:44:35,478 And I would really love to give them that chance 2006 01:44:35,562 --> 01:44:37,355 and, you know, go where they go. 2007 01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:40,066 I'd love to go to the piercing parlors with them, 2008 01:44:40,150 --> 01:44:42,902 I'd love to go to the tattoo places with them, and... 2009 01:44:42,986 --> 01:44:44,404 And you would call this show, what? 2010 01:44:44,487 --> 01:44:46,573 - "Tammy's terrific teens." - Oh, yeah. 2011 01:44:46,656 --> 01:44:48,700 I thought that would be, you know, a fun title. 2012 01:44:48,783 --> 01:44:50,285 I was just curious. 2013 01:44:51,077 --> 01:44:53,079 Well, what do you see me doing, Stephen? 2014 01:44:53,163 --> 01:44:55,206 I mean, you're the expert. 2015 01:44:55,999 --> 01:44:59,002 Well, have you reached out to any Christian networks or anything? 2016 01:45:01,629 --> 01:45:03,548 Well, they won't have me. 2017 01:45:03,631 --> 01:45:07,177 Okay. Well, what I've learned from doing these shows, 2018 01:45:07,260 --> 01:45:10,054 and I think you've learned as well, is, 2019 01:45:10,138 --> 01:45:11,222 you know, it is dangerous 2020 01:45:11,306 --> 01:45:14,184 to wanna be seen just for the sake of it. You know? 2021 01:45:14,267 --> 01:45:16,269 Well, I do love the camera, but... 2022 01:45:16,352 --> 01:45:17,395 Why? 2023 01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:19,272 Well, because it's a person. 2024 01:45:19,355 --> 01:45:20,982 It's someone to talk to. 2025 01:45:21,065 --> 01:45:24,360 It's... it's god's love through me. 2026 01:45:27,363 --> 01:45:28,656 So what do you think, Stephen? 2027 01:45:28,740 --> 01:45:30,366 You know, would you like to do a show? 2028 01:45:31,743 --> 01:45:33,536 I don't know, Tammy. 2029 01:45:33,620 --> 01:45:36,414 I just don't think it's a good fit for us right now. 2030 01:45:37,081 --> 01:45:38,082 Okay? 2031 01:45:40,084 --> 01:45:42,629 Well, well, I... I... 2032 01:45:43,254 --> 01:45:45,149 - I really appreciate... - Thank you for coming in. 2033 01:45:45,173 --> 01:45:47,050 - Thank you. - Thanks for coming through. 2034 01:45:47,133 --> 01:45:49,093 We'll take care of your parking validation. 2035 01:45:49,177 --> 01:45:50,428 - Thank you. - Tammy: Okay. 2036 01:45:51,387 --> 01:45:52,639 You have a good one. 2037 01:45:56,100 --> 01:45:57,477 - Bye. - Bye. 2038 01:45:58,770 --> 01:45:59,771 Tammy: Oops. 2039 01:46:19,123 --> 01:46:20,124 Boy 1: Oh, man. 2040 01:46:21,459 --> 01:46:23,253 Boy 2: What'd she do to her face? 2041 01:46:25,797 --> 01:46:28,800 Boy 1: I told you she lived here. What a freak. 2042 01:46:33,888 --> 01:46:36,099 -Oh, man. 2043 01:46:36,182 --> 01:46:38,226 Boy 2: Oh, shit. She's comin' over here. 2044 01:46:38,309 --> 01:46:40,353 - You guys just hangin' out? - Boy 2: Yeah. 2045 01:46:41,688 --> 01:46:45,525 So, you can talk about me. That's all right. 2046 01:46:46,025 --> 01:46:47,694 But, you know, you gotta shake my hand, 2047 01:46:47,777 --> 01:46:49,195 and you gotta say hi first. 2048 01:46:51,531 --> 01:46:52,824 - Hi. - Hi, nice to meet ya. 2049 01:46:52,907 --> 01:46:54,200 I'm Tammy. What's your name? 2050 01:46:54,284 --> 01:46:55,910 -Um, Max 2051 01:46:55,994 --> 01:46:59,330 but, you know, we're not strangers. I live right there. We're neighbors. 2052 01:47:00,123 --> 01:47:03,209 Oh! Let me show you guys what I just got. 2053 01:47:03,293 --> 01:47:06,212 Who would like a picture? 2054 01:47:10,216 --> 01:47:12,260 Jolene, lcannot believe that you have eaten 2055 01:47:12,343 --> 01:47:14,429 almost an entire jar of peanut butter. 2056 01:47:14,512 --> 01:47:17,765 Jolene: Well, I'm sorry, susanne. Lhappen to be eating for two. 2057 01:47:17,849 --> 01:47:18,850 Don't beg. 2058 01:47:20,351 --> 01:47:21,686 Okay, you're being so good. 2059 01:47:21,769 --> 01:47:23,646 Susanne: Lsay, have atit. 2060 01:47:23,730 --> 01:47:25,291 Jolene: You know, susanne, since you're having 2061 01:47:25,315 --> 01:47:27,042 so much trouble collecting money for your benefit, 2062 01:47:27,066 --> 01:47:28,484 lm/ght be able to help you out. 2063 01:47:28,568 --> 01:47:30,153 Susanne: You, how? 2064 01:47:30,236 --> 01:47:31,916 Tammy: God bless you. You've reached Tammy. 2065 01:47:31,988 --> 01:47:33,406 Leave me a message. 2066 01:47:35,491 --> 01:47:37,702 Hello, ll/lrs. Bakker. This is Linda Thomas 2067 01:47:37,785 --> 01:47:39,579 from oral Roberts school of divinity. 2068 01:47:39,662 --> 01:47:42,790 You probably don't remember but / volunteered at ptl. 2069 01:47:42,874 --> 01:47:44,751 You were always so nice to me. 2070 01:47:44,834 --> 01:47:46,836 Anyway, I'm calling to invite you to sing 2071 01:47:46,919 --> 01:47:49,172 at this year's festival of praise and redemption. 2072 01:47:49,255 --> 01:47:51,633 I think you'd be a wonderful addition to our program. 2073 01:47:51,716 --> 01:47:54,028 We 'i/ check back with you to find out if you're interested 2074 01:47:54,052 --> 01:47:55,845 thanks very much. 2075 01:48:26,084 --> 01:48:27,877 - Jim: Hi. - Hi. 2076 01:48:43,726 --> 01:48:44,936 So, what's new? 2077 01:48:45,019 --> 01:48:46,771 Oh. I don't know. 2078 01:48:49,524 --> 01:48:51,943 I got an invitation from oral Roberts to sing. 2079 01:48:52,902 --> 01:48:54,320 - Wow. - Yeah. 2080 01:48:54,404 --> 01:48:55,947 That's wonderful. 2081 01:48:56,906 --> 01:48:58,384 - I'm not gonna do it though. - You should. 2082 01:48:58,408 --> 01:49:00,118 No, I haven't been in church for years. 2083 01:49:00,201 --> 01:49:01,452 Well, that's where you belong. 2084 01:49:01,536 --> 01:49:03,079 No, I don't belong with them. 2085 01:49:03,162 --> 01:49:04,789 They're gonna laugh. 2086 01:49:04,872 --> 01:49:05,873 I'm not gonna go. 2087 01:49:05,957 --> 01:49:07,834 It's my fault you feel that way. 2088 01:49:07,917 --> 01:49:09,335 I'm sorry for that. 2089 01:49:10,378 --> 01:49:11,462 All of it. 2090 01:49:14,215 --> 01:49:15,258 I pray for you, Jim. 2091 01:49:16,092 --> 01:49:18,678 And I pray that god will use you again. 2092 01:49:20,388 --> 01:49:21,472 Yes. 2093 01:49:26,394 --> 01:49:28,730 I appreciate you signing the divorce papers, Jim. 2094 01:49:28,813 --> 01:49:30,064 I didn't want to, tam. 2095 01:49:30,773 --> 01:49:31,774 I know. 2096 01:49:33,901 --> 01:49:36,529 But, you know, we've just been through too much together 2097 01:49:36,612 --> 01:49:39,365 and, you know, there's been too many hurts 2098 01:49:39,449 --> 01:49:41,325 that have happened over the years. 2099 01:49:42,785 --> 01:49:44,245 And that poor girl, Jim. 2100 01:49:44,328 --> 01:49:45,872 I know, I know. I know. 2101 01:49:46,998 --> 01:49:48,541 I'm ashamed of that. 2102 01:49:49,667 --> 01:49:53,045 I've been getting some real me and god time in here 2103 01:49:53,129 --> 01:49:54,922 and everything looks very, very different 2104 01:49:55,006 --> 01:49:56,924 when you're looking at it from the bottom up. 2105 01:49:57,008 --> 01:49:58,176 - Well, yeah. - Yeah. 2106 01:49:58,259 --> 01:49:59,510 And I've just been thinking, 2107 01:50:00,511 --> 01:50:02,054 were we preaching 2108 01:50:03,181 --> 01:50:06,267 that god doesn't love you if you're poor? 2109 01:50:07,685 --> 01:50:09,395 Well, you know that I grew up poor. 2110 01:50:11,314 --> 01:50:13,858 It's not what you have in stuff, 2111 01:50:13,941 --> 01:50:16,235 it's the people that count. 2112 01:50:17,111 --> 01:50:18,863 - Amen. - Amen. 2113 01:50:34,420 --> 01:50:35,630 Rachel: Tammy. 2114 01:50:37,548 --> 01:50:38,549 Mom? 2115 01:50:43,554 --> 01:50:46,265 Pastor: ”we therefore were buried with him 2116 01:50:46,349 --> 01:50:47,558 ”through baptism into death. 2117 01:50:48,893 --> 01:50:49,894 ”In order that, 2118 01:50:49,977 --> 01:50:52,438 'just as Christ was raised from the dead 2119 01:50:52,522 --> 01:50:54,649 ”through the glory of the father, 2120 01:50:54,732 --> 01:50:57,693 ”we too may walk in newness of life. ” 2121 01:51:00,321 --> 01:51:01,739 Man: Such a good service. 2122 01:51:02,740 --> 01:51:04,408 Fred: Hello, Tom. Thanks for comin'. 2123 01:51:06,410 --> 01:51:07,495 There you are. 2124 01:51:08,579 --> 01:51:10,706 Aren't you gonna come in, have somethin' to eat? 2125 01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:13,918 I don't belong in there with them. 2126 01:51:14,001 --> 01:51:15,002 Yeah. 2127 01:51:16,546 --> 01:51:18,631 One good thing about your mum kicking the bucket is 2128 01:51:18,714 --> 01:51:20,383 I never have to go to church again. 2129 01:51:22,552 --> 01:51:24,512 No, I shouldn't laugh at that. 2130 01:51:26,931 --> 01:51:29,141 - Oh, I did something terrible. - Oh? 2131 01:51:30,351 --> 01:51:32,061 Oh. 2132 01:51:32,854 --> 01:51:35,648 You're forgiven. 2133 01:51:35,731 --> 01:51:38,943 Ooh. Wow, she really was blind, wasn't she? 2134 01:51:39,026 --> 01:51:40,570 Mm-hmm. 2135 01:51:42,196 --> 01:51:43,573 I got somethin' for ya. 2136 01:51:44,907 --> 01:51:46,200 You recognize this? 2137 01:51:49,662 --> 01:51:51,747 I thought falwell took everything. 2138 01:51:51,831 --> 01:51:53,124 She hid this. 2139 01:51:53,207 --> 01:51:54,625 She stole it. 2140 01:51:55,126 --> 01:51:56,627 Well, she said she'd be damned 2141 01:51:56,711 --> 01:51:58,671 if she was gonna hand over this precious thing 2142 01:51:58,754 --> 01:52:00,298 her daughter worked so hard for 2143 01:52:00,381 --> 01:52:02,466 to the fat baptist. 2144 01:52:30,703 --> 01:52:33,015 Woman: We 're opening the house now, ll/ls. Bakker. 2145 01:52:33,039 --> 01:52:34,749 People are taking their seats. 2146 01:52:39,837 --> 01:52:41,756 Well, hello there, Tammy. 2147 01:52:43,549 --> 01:52:45,176 Hi, there. 2148 01:52:47,678 --> 01:52:48,888 I'm scared. 2149 01:52:56,562 --> 01:53:00,483 Jesus, come in to my heart, and forgive me my sins. 2150 01:53:02,443 --> 01:53:04,695 I know I cared about things that I shouldn't have. 2151 01:53:06,697 --> 01:53:08,532 And I know I got lost... 2152 01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:14,246 And I forgot who you are to me... 2153 01:53:17,625 --> 01:53:19,043 But that's done now. 2154 01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:22,922 Yeah, I won't go fonnard 2155 01:53:23,005 --> 01:53:26,217 looking in the rearview mirror of my life. 2156 01:53:27,969 --> 01:53:29,679 Man: On stage in 70 minutes. 2157 01:53:47,822 --> 01:53:48,823 Thank you. 2158 01:53:50,533 --> 01:53:52,868 - Here, this is for the piano player. - Okay. 2159 01:54:09,468 --> 01:54:11,095 An n ou n ce r: Ladies and gentlemen... 2160 01:54:12,263 --> 01:54:15,683 Please welcome tonight's special guest, 2161 01:54:15,766 --> 01:54:17,226 Tammy Faye. 2162 01:54:25,651 --> 01:54:26,652 Tammy: Aw. 2163 01:54:27,653 --> 01:54:31,532 Thank you. Thank you so much. 2164 01:54:33,868 --> 01:54:36,954 I am genuinely, I am so happy 2165 01:54:37,038 --> 01:54:39,582 to be back where I once belonged. 2166 01:54:44,253 --> 01:54:47,256 This morning when I was in need of some comfort, 2167 01:54:47,339 --> 01:54:50,926 I turned to my favorite scripture, 2168 01:54:51,427 --> 01:54:52,928 psalms 91. 2169 01:54:56,140 --> 01:54:58,684 "He that dwelleth in the secret place 2170 01:54:58,768 --> 01:55:00,352 "of the most high 2171 01:55:01,312 --> 01:55:06,108 "shall abide under the shadow of the almighty." 2172 01:55:06,692 --> 01:55:09,070 And this is my favorite part. 2173 01:55:16,452 --> 01:55:19,330 "He shall cover thee with his feathers 2174 01:55:21,165 --> 01:55:23,000 "and under his wings 2175 01:55:23,834 --> 01:55:25,753 "shalt thou trust." 2176 01:55:30,049 --> 01:55:32,968 Well, I haven't had a concert in almost a decade 2177 01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:36,680 and I am a little nervous. 2178 01:55:38,641 --> 01:55:39,850 But I'll do my best 2179 01:55:40,434 --> 01:55:43,479 to deliver him to you folks tonight. Okay? 2180 01:55:52,279 --> 01:55:53,781 /I/line eyes 2181 01:55:54,657 --> 01:55:56,951 have seen the glory 2182 01:55:58,410 --> 01:56:02,164 of the coming of the lord 2183 01:56:03,290 --> 01:56:06,877 he is trampling out the vintage 2184 01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:13,134 where the grapes of wrath are stored 2185 01:56:14,093 --> 01:56:15,928 he hath loosed 2186 01:56:17,096 --> 01:56:18,722 the fateful lightning 2187 01:56:20,766 --> 01:56:25,187 of his terrible, swift sword 2188 01:56:27,731 --> 01:56:34,738 his truth is marching on 2189 01:56:36,824 --> 01:56:43,831 glory, glory, hallelujah 2190 01:56:43,914 --> 01:56:50,921 glory, glory, hallelujah 2191 01:56:51,422 --> 01:56:57,678 glory, glory, hallelujah 2192 01:56:57,761 --> 01:57:04,351 his truth is marching on 2193 01:57:04,435 --> 01:57:08,772 I have read his fiery gospel 2194 01:57:08,856 --> 01:57:11,901 writ in burnished rows of steel 2195 01:57:11,984 --> 01:57:15,738 'as ye deal with my condemners 2196 01:57:15,821 --> 01:57:18,908 ”so with you my grace shall deal ” 2197 01:57:18,991 --> 01:57:22,661 let the hero, born of woman 2198 01:57:22,745 --> 01:57:26,040 crush the serpent with his heel 2199 01:57:26,123 --> 01:57:32,880 since god is marching on 2200 01:57:32,963 --> 01:57:37,343 come on, everybody! Feel his miracle! 2201 01:57:37,426 --> 01:57:44,266 Glory, glory, hallelujah 2202 01:57:44,767 --> 01:57:51,774 glory, glory, hallelujah 2203 01:57:51,857 --> 01:57:57,863 glory, glory, hallelujah 2204 01:57:57,947 --> 01:58:04,703 his truth is marching on 2205 01:58:04,787 --> 01:58:07,665 oh, how thankful I am 2206 01:58:07,748 --> 01:58:10,125 for the amazing grace of god. 2207 01:58:10,209 --> 01:58:13,462 Because without that beautiful grace, 2208 01:58:13,545 --> 01:58:16,298 I wouldn't even be here today. 2209 01:58:16,382 --> 01:58:18,384 That grace that reached down and said, 2210 01:58:18,467 --> 01:58:22,346 "Tammy Faye, I love you. 2211 01:58:22,429 --> 01:58:25,808 "And I love you just the way you are." 2212 01:58:25,891 --> 01:58:29,478 You know god's grace is sufficient enough for you today, too. 2213 01:58:29,561 --> 01:58:34,024 And he loves you just the way you are! 2214 01:58:34,108 --> 01:58:40,948 Glory, glory, hallelujah 2215 01:58:41,031 --> 01:58:48,038 glory, glory, hallelujah 2216 01:58:48,122 --> 01:58:54,586 glory, glory, hallelujah 2217 01:58:54,670 --> 01:59:01,677 his truth is marching on 2218 01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:06,140 our god is 2219 01:59:06,223 --> 01:59:10,144 ll/larching 2220 01:59:18,527 --> 01:59:22,573 Thank you, lord, for the United States of America. 2221 01:59:22,656 --> 01:59:23,824 We thank you, lord, 2222 01:59:23,907 --> 01:59:27,369 that we live in this wonderful country. 2223 01:59:27,453 --> 01:59:31,540 God bless america. Hallelujah. 2224 01:59:32,207 --> 01:59:34,126 Oh, yeah. 2225 02:00:27,096 --> 02:00:29,390 It's not over till it's over. 153151

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