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Hugh downs:
Jim and Tammy Faye bakker
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were the most famous
fe/e vange/isz' couple in america,
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and, by far, the most prosperous.
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Al Dale: Ken and barb/e
of fe/e vange/ism.
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And they seemed honest.
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R e p 0 rt e r 1: They brought
encouragement and hope to lots of people.
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Geraldo Rivera: He's the president
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of a multi-mi/iion o'o/iar
religious organization
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called the praise the lord club.
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Reporter 2: Ptl also
operates heritage I/I//age
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in fort mill, south Carolina.
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Reporter 3: Christian Disney world
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where ptl members
can vacation with inspiration.
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They are among the best-known figures
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in the world of television evangelism.
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But tonight they are out of business.
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Following the scandal that led
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to founder Jim bakker's
resignation last week.
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There's debate about
how much the bakker scandal will hurt
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all the television ministries
and quiet concern...
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Modern warfare among the TV preachers.
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In this electronic age,
the stakes are high
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- with millions of followers...
- And recriminations.
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And caught up in the fighting
are their fellow evangelists
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Jimmy swaggart,
oral Roberts, Jerry falwell.
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Now, about what some people around here
are calling "pearly-gate."
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Pearly-gate is the story
of Jim and Tammy bakker.
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It's remarkably like Watergate,
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which tainted the name "politician,"
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and such an episode is bound
to taint the name "preacher."
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Reporter 4: The bakkers
oou/o'n't even get out of their car.
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There were so many people
waiting to see them
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after three months of seclusion.
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Reporter 5: Bus/oao's of tourists,
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hoping to get a glimpse
of the elusive evangelists,
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but they had no better luck
than the waiting newspeop/e.
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Woman: Okay, I'm gonna start
by taking some of this off.
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Tammy: Okay.
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Woman: Gonna take your foundation off.
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Tammy: M'Kay.
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Woman: And then we'll start fresh.
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Can you take your lips off?
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- Okay.
- Do you want a little remover?
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Oh, no. That's it.
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That'll be all.
They're permanently lined.
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Woman: Oh.
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And my eyes are permanently lined
and my eyebrows are permanently on,
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so there's not a whole lot
you can do.
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Woman: My goodness,
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- I... I didn't know.
- Mm.
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Have you never done pictures
without those eyelashes?
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Nope, and I never will
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because that's my trademark.
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And, you know, if I take that away,
then it's not me,
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and no one's gonna wanna look
at me without my trademark.
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So, I hold onto that.
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Even if we softened 'em up and kept...
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No. No, you can do anything you want,
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but my eyelashes stay
right where they are.
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Woman: That's really you.
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Tammy: Mm.
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Oh, yeah, this is who I am.
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Preacher: I didn't know what the words
"glory" or "hallelujah" be
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because the devil is all around us!
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Oh, yes, he is!
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And it's up to you to resist
his temptations. Hallelujah!
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If you're not saved by Jesus,
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you open yourself up to demons
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and the devil will make a home in you!
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Woman: Glory to god!
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When god spoke peace to my heart,
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I didn't know how to say glory
or hallelujah,
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but I got saved!
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I leapt upon that altar.
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Jesus told me he loved me,
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and he will love you.
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He speaks through her.
Say, "hallelujah!"
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Congregation: Hallelujah!
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Preacher: She is with
the holy spirit right now!
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Feel the spirit! Say, "glory.
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"Glory to god."
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Congregation: Glory to god!
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Preacher: You too, sister!
Feel the spirit.
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Raise your hands up, folks.
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Little Tammy: I was here.
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Here the whole time.
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Little girls go to hell for lying.
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Honest and true.
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I wanna be saved.
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If you let me come in with you,
god'd love me like he's supposed to.
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There's reasons
you can't be seen in church, tam.
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Grown-up reasons.
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Is it because everyone thinks
you're a harlot?
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And I come from a time
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before Fred made you
respectable and stuff.
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Only reason they let me back
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is 'cause nobody but me
can play the piano.
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But you remind them I was divorced.
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They see you,
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all of us is going to be banished.
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The souls
of all your brothers and sisters
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burning in hell because you don't listen
and you can't sit still.
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Stop performing.
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You're going to hell, Tammy.
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You don't belong here.
You don't belong anywhere.
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You're ugly.
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You've got a demon inside you.
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But I don't wanna go to hell.
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If they loved you,
they wouldn't leave you here.
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They love me.
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They love you not.
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Jesus, come into my heart
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and forgive me my sins.
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I don't know what this is
everybody's getting,
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but if it's real,
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then, please, Jesus, give that to me.
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Preacher: Amen!
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Be strong in the lord
and his mighty power.
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Put on the armor of god
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so that you can take your stand
against the devil's schemes.
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For our struggle isn't
against flesh and blood,
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but against the powers
of this dark world!
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Casting down imaginations
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on every high thing that exalts itself.
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- Do you feel love?
- Congregation: Yes.
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Preacher: You feel it, sister!
I know you feel it!
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You too, brother?
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If you feel the love,
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- say, "hallelujah!"
- Congregation: Hallelujah!
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Preacher: Say, "glory to god!"
Congregation: Glory to god!
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Preacher: Accept the blood!
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Feel love forever!
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Congregation: Hallelujah!
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Woman: Praise the lord!
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Are you ready to accept the love?
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Yes.
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Tammy Faye!
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I'm so sorry. I'm so, so sorry.
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No, Tammy!
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Tammy, get up.
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He is with us!
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- She's peeing herself! Praise god!
- Yes!
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- Tammy, I said get up.
- Woman: Shush now.
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This baby is a miracle.
Don't you take her from us.
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Man: Mr. Bakker?
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Jim: Yes, sir?
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Thank you.
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Um, sorry.
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I would like to start with a verse.
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"Beloved, I wish above all things
that thou mayest prosper
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"and be in health,
even as thy soul prospereth."
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That is John 3, verse 2,
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and it's written right here
in the good book.
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He gave me this verse last night.
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God, he came right down
and he whispered it in my ear.
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He said, "Jim bakker,
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"I intend for you to thrive,
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"to live, and to love
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"in this life."
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He said it to me.
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But us christians,
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we've been taught
that we're supposed to
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expect failure.
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When Jesus calls you home,
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you think you're going to get a bonus
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if you make yourself miserable?
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You think if you deny yourself
indoor plumbing,
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or if you don't have shoes
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on your feet...
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I'm... I'm sorry.
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Go ahead.
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You know, heaven,
heaven is heaven, that is for sure.
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But god's hope for us
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is that we live and we thrive
and we love here
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in the promised land.
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Here and now.
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Here and now,
and in this very, very moment.
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Hallelujah!
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God does not want us to be poor!
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Oh, no!
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He will gift the faithful
with eternal life,
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eternal love, and eternal wealth!
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Hallelujah! Praise god!
Praise him!
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Be right to remember,
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"blessed be the poor," Mr. Bakker.
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Doesn't sound very blessed to me.
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You two are here to learn the ways
of the lord through scripture, yeah?
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- Yes, sir.
- And to spread the word of god.
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Oh, yeah. You know, I'm gonna sing
the word in every tent, in every church.
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You know, god told me that
that's what he wants for me.
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With makeup on your face?
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Man: Ahem. Jezebel.
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"I do my best to maintain always
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"a blameless conscience,
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"both before god and before men."
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"A man who keeps company with harlots
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"wastes his wealth."
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Proverbs 29:3.
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"Your stature is like that of a palm
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"and your breasts
like clusters of fruit.
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"I will take hold of the palm tree."
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"And I will take hold of the fruit."
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That's the song of Solomon.
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Jim: I'm sorry I couldn't
drive you some place nice.
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Oh, this is some place nice, Jim.
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Tell me something. Tell me a secret.
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Something that no one else knows about.
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Oh, I have no secrets.
I'll tell you anything you wanna know.
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We'll start with everything.
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Okay.
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I'm the oldest of eight children
and I'm a very practical person.
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And what you see is all there is of me.
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You know, I don't pretend
to be something I'm not
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because what you see is all you get.
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And I love people.
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I have a genuine,
genuine love for people.
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And I hurt when people hurt,
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and probably a little more dramatic
than people would like me to be.
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But I enjoy that.
That's just who I am.
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I've never met anyone quite like you,
Tammy Faye.
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Okay.
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So, um, do you have any secrets, Jim?
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Well, one or two.
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Well, tell me.
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Well, before god found me,
I wanted to be a radio deejay.
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-Yes.
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I used to love to make people dance.
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Have fun.
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Little Richard.
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And buddy Holly and...
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Oh, and fats domino.
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What happened?
Why didn't you do it, Jim?
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Never mind that.
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Tell me.
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Um, I don't think...
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Well, all right.
I'll tell you, Tammy. Um...
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Two years ago, I was on a date
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with my girlfriend, Sandy, and...
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- Mm.
- Oh, no,
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with my girlfriend at the time.
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- Mm.
- But, anyhoo,
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I borrowed my daddy's car
to take her out,
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and there was all this snow
on the ground
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and fats was singing blueberry hill
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soloud
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and I... I was having these urges
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that only the devil would approve of
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and I lost control of the car.
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And I ran over a little boy,
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little Jimmy summerfield.
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I ruptured Jimmy summerfield's lung...
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With my daddy's tire.
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I didn't sleep all night.
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I was just up worried sick
about that boy dying.
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So, I...
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I made a bargain with god.
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I said to him,
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"I will forsake my dream
of being a deejay.
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"I will stop peddling in rock and roll
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"and I'll dedicate my life
to him and him alone.
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"If he sees fit to save that boy's life,
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"he will win two souls
right then and there."
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And what happened to Jimmy summerfield?
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He lived.
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-Yes.
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- Praise be to god.
- Yes, praise him.
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You still like me?
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Oh, sure, I do, Jim.
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Oh, even more now that
you were honest with me.
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I'll tell ya, I do miss dancing.
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Lfouno' my thrill
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on blueberry hill
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I found my thrill
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I/I/hen lfound you
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You're so loud.
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Dance with me, Jim.
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Here? No, I can't.
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In front of all these people?
Like, no...
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Please?
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The moon stood still
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on blueberry hill
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and lingered until
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My dreams came true
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Oh, we can't.
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I know.
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- We can't.
- I know.
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Oh. Oh, we can't.
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I know.
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Yeah!
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What'd you do?
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Hello, mother.
This is Jim bakker,
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my husband.
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Jim: Hello, mother.
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Oh, it's such a blessing
to finally meet you.
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Tammy: No.
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No, mother, we can't go back to school.
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They have a rule against
students marrying one another.
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Did you know they had that rule
when you did this?
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If I know the two of you,
you're just gonna love Jim.
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Oh, he's so motivated.
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He has so many big ideas.
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Did you know?
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Well, you can educate yourself
right out of a relationship with god.
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He has a plan for us.
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- God or that Jim boy?
- God.
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What'd he tell ya to do this time?
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Come spring, me and Jim
are going to be traveling preachers,
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bringing god's love to all people.
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Anyone who's hurting
or they feel like they've been left out.
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Jim will preach and I'll sing.
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And we'll be like
oral Roberts and his wife.
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Oral Roberts went to college.
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He has one named for him.
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God said that we're supposed
to have a good life.
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That way, we can help
bring his love to all people.
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There's a limit to god's love,
Tammy Faye.
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Tammy and Jim: No.
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No, there's no limit to god's love,
Mrs. Grover,
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and there's no limit
to Tammy Faye and I either.
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We're soldiers in Christ.
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We've been called to serve
in a very real way.
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God smiles on a husband and wife.
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"As a young man marries a young woman,
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"so will your builder marry you;
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"as a bridegroom rejoices in his bride,
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"so will your god rejoice in you."
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Isaiah 62:5.
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Jim: It's something we do.
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Fred said that we could stay
until the weather changes.
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Got some bubbles at the swap meet.
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I'm sorry, tam.
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I feel like I'm letting you down.
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She doesn't like me.
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- No, Jim.
- No, she doesn't.
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Of course she likes you.
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Tammy: Oh.
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It makes Tammy sad to see you so sad.
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How's there supposed to be bubbles
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if there isn't enough water
to work up the bubbles?
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Oh, I can work up the bubbles, Jim.
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All I gotta do is dunk my hand.
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And I swirl...
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And swirl.
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Am I doing that all right?
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Jim: Uh-huh.
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Well, hello there, Tammy Faye.
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00:18:57,637 --> 00:18:59,264
Hello, mommy.
348
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What are you doing with those things?
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00:19:01,391 --> 00:19:03,536
Well, we're gonna use these
puppets as part of our sermon
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and show the kids how wonderful god is.
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And if we can get enough children
to come,
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they'll bring their mothers
and their fathers.
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And before you know it,
we'll have our own church.
354
00:19:14,863 --> 00:19:18,033
Have you counted
your blessings today, Tammy Faye?
355
00:19:18,116 --> 00:19:19,993
No, not yet, susie.
356
00:19:20,076 --> 00:19:23,371
Time to count your blessings,
for they are plentiful.
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Okay, well, thank you for my husband.
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Oh, you're so welcome, Tammy.
359
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And thank you
for mother's understanding,
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even if she doesn't understand.
361
00:19:35,925 --> 00:19:38,303
Oh. You're welcome.
362
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And thank you, god, for love.
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Hmm.
364
00:20:07,415 --> 00:20:10,418
Jim! Whose car is this?
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Get in. Get in. Come on.
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00:20:16,674 --> 00:20:17,675
Tammy: Okay.
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Roll that window up.
I got the heat on.
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00:20:21,888 --> 00:20:23,181
This fine vehicle
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with the leather interior
and the chrome on the wheels
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is a gift from god
for us to do his work.
371
00:20:33,316 --> 00:20:35,777
But how
can we afford it, Jim bakker?
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Who is this?
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I'm susie moppet.
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Aren't you cute? Well, do
you know about god, susie?
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00:20:43,743 --> 00:20:44,828
Oh, I do.
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00:20:44,911 --> 00:20:48,331
Well, god has canceled
the claim of poverty
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and deprivation in our lives
378
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and he has placed
all the powers of heaven
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and the first bank
of international falls, Minnesota,
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at our disposal.
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00:20:57,841 --> 00:21:00,093
Oh.
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00:21:03,888 --> 00:21:07,392
Oh, this is the nicest car
I've ever seen, Jim.
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00:21:07,475 --> 00:21:10,311
"Everything works for good
for them that love god.“
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everything.
385
00:21:12,689 --> 00:21:15,400
But you have
to have faith in him
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and in me and in us,
'cause if you don't,
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00:21:18,611 --> 00:21:20,447
I don't know what I'm doing here.
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00:21:20,530 --> 00:21:22,365
- Oh, I do, Jim.
- You do?
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Does she, susie?
390
00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:28,788
Oh, she do, Jim!
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She really, really do!
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00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:43,511
Jim: You sure...
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It's all right here.
In psalm 37:4.
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"Take delight in the lord
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"and he will give you
your heart's desires."
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00:21:52,604 --> 00:21:56,149
God starts turning
those wheels in your life!
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Susie: You better believe it!
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- Jim: Oh, now who is this?
- Oh, I'm susie moppet.
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00:21:59,903 --> 00:22:01,696
Well, hello there, susie moppet.
400
00:22:01,779 --> 00:22:03,448
Susie: Hi! Nice to meet you!
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00:22:04,699 --> 00:22:06,951
Shejumped up.
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00:22:08,077 --> 00:22:10,038
Susie: Yes, Jesus loves me
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yes, Jesus loves me
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00:22:11,873 --> 00:22:13,416
yes, Jesus loves me
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00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:17,337
both: The Bible tells me so
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00:22:17,420 --> 00:22:19,714
hitch up your wagon to god.
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00:22:19,797 --> 00:22:21,424
He's greater than any problem.
408
00:22:21,508 --> 00:22:23,110
Us christians, we're just
stuck in the mud
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00:22:23,134 --> 00:22:25,178
like that old game.
Remember that old kids' game?
410
00:22:25,261 --> 00:22:27,639
God wants us just to run free.
411
00:22:31,476 --> 00:22:33,645
Well, this is a fun song,
boys and girls.
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00:22:33,728 --> 00:22:35,438
So, hit it, Allie.
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00:22:35,522 --> 00:22:36,790
Jesus loves me
414
00:22:36,814 --> 00:22:39,901
7'his lknow
for the Bible tells me so
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00:22:39,984 --> 00:22:41,653
Yes, Jesus loves me
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alli e: The Bible tells me so
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00:22:47,492 --> 00:22:49,261
An n o u n c e r:
You're watching pat robertson
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on the Christian broadcasting network.
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00:22:51,204 --> 00:22:54,707
- Jim: Come on.
- Season all your grain offerings...
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00:22:54,791 --> 00:22:55,833
Oh, come on!
421
00:22:55,917 --> 00:22:57,919
- With salt.
- Okay, okay, okay.
422
00:22:58,419 --> 00:23:01,548
Do not leave the salt
of the co venant of your god
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00:23:01,631 --> 00:23:03,424
out of your grain offerings.
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00:23:03,508 --> 00:23:04,759
Add salt
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00:23:05,426 --> 00:23:06,844
to all your offerings.
426
00:23:06,928 --> 00:23:10,098
You know, he's not terribly
dynamic for a charismatic.
427
00:23:10,181 --> 00:23:12,433
Jim: I know, but people just eat him up.
428
00:23:12,517 --> 00:23:14,394
Focus on the foundation.
429
00:23:14,477 --> 00:23:16,271
- Tammy, did you see that?
- Hmm?
430
00:23:16,354 --> 00:23:18,565
Watch close.
Every now and again,
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00:23:18,648 --> 00:23:20,650
he glances up at the camera.
432
00:23:20,733 --> 00:23:23,778
It is upon him that you
can place your strong...
433
00:23:23,861 --> 00:23:25,238
- See that?
- You're right.
434
00:23:25,321 --> 00:23:29,534
He's talking right to you
in the comfort of your living room.
435
00:23:29,617 --> 00:23:31,578
Well, if I could have watched a preacher
436
00:23:31,661 --> 00:23:34,581
on TV in my own home telling me
about god,
437
00:23:34,664 --> 00:23:36,457
that would've made such a difference.
438
00:23:36,541 --> 00:23:38,084
Jim: Mm. Amen.
439
00:23:39,127 --> 00:23:42,964
Especially from someone
who preaches as good as you do, Jim.
440
00:23:46,092 --> 00:23:47,510
- You think?
- Oh, yeah.
441
00:23:47,594 --> 00:23:49,596
Blow your home over?
442
00:23:50,221 --> 00:23:51,848
You know, we could do that.
443
00:23:53,349 --> 00:23:56,519
You're so much more handsome than he is.
444
00:23:57,895 --> 00:23:58,938
Keep calling.
445
00:23:59,022 --> 00:24:01,584
- Jim: Gotta do my homework, baby.
- The numbers are on your screen.
446
00:24:01,608 --> 00:24:03,192
Mm. Stop it.
447
00:24:03,276 --> 00:24:04,569
You're distracting me.
448
00:24:04,652 --> 00:24:07,739
Voices of angels.
Lhope you enjoy them,
449
00:24:07,822 --> 00:24:08,823
and we have a variety...
450
00:24:09,741 --> 00:24:12,660
Well, we'll have to call the preacher
down in Raleigh
451
00:24:12,744 --> 00:24:14,746
and let him know we got
a better gig down here.
452
00:24:14,829 --> 00:24:16,706
Don't make him cross at you, Jim.
453
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:18,374
We wanna have him want us back.
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00:24:18,458 --> 00:24:19,500
Jim: Hold on.
455
00:24:20,084 --> 00:24:21,085
Tammy: What?
456
00:24:21,586 --> 00:24:22,587
Jim: The car.
457
00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:28,134
I... I parked it here.
458
00:24:28,217 --> 00:24:30,970
Yep, you sure did. Uh-huh.
459
00:24:32,555 --> 00:24:33,616
Well, must've got stolen...
460
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,807
What?
461
00:24:34,891 --> 00:24:37,101
Jim: Oh.
462
00:24:38,227 --> 00:24:39,228
Oh, maybe it got towed.
463
00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:42,899
No, I know I made the payments, so...
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00:24:44,317 --> 00:24:45,818
I think I made the payments.
465
00:24:45,902 --> 00:24:46,944
Oh, Jim.
466
00:24:47,028 --> 00:24:48,863
Maybe they didn't get
the payments or maybe...
467
00:24:48,946 --> 00:24:50,990
- Oh, no.
- I don't think I forgot.
468
00:24:51,074 --> 00:24:52,867
- I think I...
- Okay.
469
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:55,244
- Oh, Tammy, I don't know...
- We need to pray.
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00:24:55,328 --> 00:24:57,497
Oh, did I? Yes, yes, yes.
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Tammy: Oh, lord,
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we are good soldiers.
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00:25:00,750 --> 00:25:02,394
- We are here for good.
- Oh, I'm sorry, Tammy.
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00:25:02,418 --> 00:25:04,188
- We are here for your good.
- I'm so, so, so sorry.
475
00:25:04,212 --> 00:25:05,564
And we ask that you shine your light...
476
00:25:05,588 --> 00:25:07,399
Jim: I shouldn't have put
so much faith in that bank.
477
00:25:07,423 --> 00:25:08,675
God, I'm so sorry.
478
00:25:08,758 --> 00:25:09,967
Jesus, I'm so sorry.
479
00:25:10,051 --> 00:25:11,636
Tammy, I'm sorry.
480
00:25:11,719 --> 00:25:12,804
I'm sorry.
481
00:25:13,471 --> 00:25:15,014
Jim.
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00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:18,643
Man: Hey.
483
00:25:18,726 --> 00:25:21,104
Hey, I saw you preach last night.
484
00:25:21,187 --> 00:25:24,065
Those puppets of yours filled me.
Deeply.
485
00:25:24,148 --> 00:25:25,608
Tammy: Oh, thank you.
486
00:25:25,692 --> 00:25:26,693
Jim: Thank you.
487
00:25:26,776 --> 00:25:28,194
I'm staying in the room next door.
488
00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:30,863
- Can I help you with that?
- No!
489
00:25:30,947 --> 00:25:32,782
Well, that's very kind of you...
490
00:25:33,950 --> 00:25:36,619
But we don't rightly know
where we're carrying it to.
491
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:38,871
I work at a local television station
492
00:25:38,955 --> 00:25:41,040
with a minister by the name
of Mr. Pat robertson.
493
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He'd get a kick outta you two.
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Woman 1: Yes, honey,
and that's $25 a pledge.
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00:25:55,596 --> 00:25:58,850
Woman 2: Cbn.
496
00:25:58,933 --> 00:26:00,601
Can I take your pledge?
497
00:26:02,395 --> 00:26:04,313
Jim: Well, I'm trying to focus.
498
00:26:06,065 --> 00:26:07,692
And you're just distracting me.
499
00:26:07,775 --> 00:26:10,445
You make me laugh.
I was happy to find...
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00:26:12,947 --> 00:26:14,949
Jim: You're so funny, Graham.
501
00:26:15,032 --> 00:26:16,451
- Jim?
- Hey, honey.
502
00:26:16,534 --> 00:26:18,536
Hi, I got a new outfit for the show.
503
00:26:18,619 --> 00:26:20,288
Oh, yes, I love it.
504
00:26:20,788 --> 00:26:22,498
- Jim.
- Jim: Yeah?
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00:26:22,582 --> 00:26:23,916
You didn't even look at me.
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00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,168
Jim: Oh.
507
00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:27,003
I'm sorry, tam.
508
00:26:27,086 --> 00:26:28,254
Have I ever told you
509
00:26:28,337 --> 00:26:32,091
that I am the luckiest man
on the face of this planet?
510
00:26:32,175 --> 00:26:33,902
Have I ever told you that?
511
00:26:33,926 --> 00:26:35,928
- Not today.
- Not today, no?
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00:26:36,012 --> 00:26:39,140
I'm going to tell you something, too,
but I'm not gonna tell you right now.
513
00:26:39,223 --> 00:26:40,391
You're gonna have to wait.
514
00:26:40,475 --> 00:26:42,101
- No, no, no!
- Yeah.
515
00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:44,520
You just have to.
516
00:26:44,604 --> 00:26:45,855
And there he is.
517
00:26:45,938 --> 00:26:47,482
Every time I try and talk to him,
518
00:26:47,565 --> 00:26:49,692
he just keeps making excuses
not to see me.
519
00:26:49,776 --> 00:26:53,279
Well, my surprise is gonna
make you feel so much better.
520
00:26:54,322 --> 00:26:55,573
I'll be right back.
521
00:26:55,656 --> 00:26:56,657
No, Jim,
522
00:26:56,741 --> 00:26:58,469
- the show's about to start.
- Jim: Hey, pat!
523
00:26:58,493 --> 00:27:00,119
- Pat: Jim! Hey!
- Jim: You got a second?
524
00:27:01,662 --> 00:27:03,390
Have you given more thought
to our show idea?
525
00:27:03,414 --> 00:27:04,999
Man: All right,
let me get you set up.
526
00:27:05,082 --> 00:27:07,562
Pat: Don't you already have
your hands full with those puppets?
527
00:27:07,627 --> 00:27:09,796
Biggest earner we got.
You stay focused.
528
00:27:09,879 --> 00:27:11,422
Jim: Well, yes, of course,
529
00:27:11,506 --> 00:27:13,758
but you shut down cbn at 10 pm.
530
00:27:13,841 --> 00:27:15,259
Why not do a late-night show?
531
00:27:15,343 --> 00:27:17,345
Just kind of like Johnny Carson
for christians?
532
00:27:17,428 --> 00:27:19,514
No, christians don't stay up that late.
533
00:27:19,597 --> 00:27:20,640
Oh, I do.
534
00:27:20,723 --> 00:27:22,367
- I don't sleep at all.
- Pat: What about tam?
535
00:27:22,391 --> 00:27:24,268
Well, she's gonna miss you at night.
536
00:27:24,352 --> 00:27:26,354
Jim: Tammy loves the idea.
Man: Tammy, we're on.
537
00:27:26,437 --> 00:27:29,607
Man 2: Okay, we're live
in five, four, three.
538
00:27:33,528 --> 00:27:34,987
Oh, hello, everybody!
539
00:27:35,071 --> 00:27:37,949
Children: Hi, Tammy!
540
00:27:38,032 --> 00:27:40,493
Well, Jim is a little bit late today,
541
00:27:40,576 --> 00:27:43,246
so, um, the theme of today's show,
542
00:27:43,329 --> 00:27:45,248
how about we make it
all about the importance
543
00:27:45,331 --> 00:27:47,792
of being places on time, hmm?
544
00:27:47,875 --> 00:27:49,919
Oh, no! Oh, no!
545
00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:51,546
- I'm sorry, kids!
- There he is.
546
00:27:51,629 --> 00:27:53,840
I'm sorry, Tammy!
I'm sorry, everybody.
547
00:27:53,923 --> 00:27:57,468
I was just having a little,
fun little chat
548
00:27:57,552 --> 00:28:00,096
with uncle patjust behind the barn.
549
00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:02,640
Oh, yeah, and what'd you two
fellas get up to without me?
550
00:28:02,723 --> 00:28:05,351
Oh, well, it's actually
something all you kids...
551
00:28:05,434 --> 00:28:06,644
- Mm-hmm.
- Are gonna wanna
552
00:28:06,727 --> 00:28:08,145
tell your parents about.
553
00:28:08,229 --> 00:28:12,441
It's a brand-new show just for them
554
00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:16,112
right here on cbn!
555
00:28:16,195 --> 00:28:17,697
Well, amen!
556
00:28:17,780 --> 00:28:20,783
Jim: And it's gonna be called
the 700 club.
557
00:28:20,867 --> 00:28:22,451
Tammy: Now, isn't that happy news?
558
00:28:22,535 --> 00:28:25,371
Hallelujah! Yes! Yes!
559
00:28:25,454 --> 00:28:26,455
- Susie: Hi, kids.
- Oh.
560
00:28:26,539 --> 00:28:30,126
All: Hi, susie moppet.
561
00:28:30,209 --> 00:28:32,920
Hi, Jim. Today's a happy day.
562
00:28:33,004 --> 00:28:34,839
Isn't it, kids?
And you know why, Jim?
563
00:28:34,922 --> 00:28:36,591
Why, susie?
564
00:28:36,674 --> 00:28:39,552
Well, you're gonna have
a new show, kids.
565
00:28:39,635 --> 00:28:41,470
Jim: Yes.
566
00:28:41,554 --> 00:28:44,515
Susie: And Jim is gonna have
567
00:28:45,099 --> 00:28:46,183
a baby.
568
00:28:48,311 --> 00:28:50,021
Look at Tammy,
she's right behind you.
569
00:28:53,441 --> 00:28:54,984
We're gonna have a baby?
570
00:28:55,985 --> 00:28:58,279
Isn't the world just
full of blessings, Jim?
571
00:28:58,362 --> 00:29:00,323
Huh?
572
00:29:00,406 --> 00:29:02,283
That's right, folks!
573
00:29:05,703 --> 00:29:07,455
We're gonna have a baby!
574
00:29:07,538 --> 00:29:08,956
Oh-ho-ho!
575
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,168
Jim: It's not a drag to be saved
576
00:29:12,251 --> 00:29:14,003
it's not a boring thing.
577
00:29:14,086 --> 00:29:17,048
7'hat's rel/gion.
See, you got 'em mixed up.
578
00:29:17,131 --> 00:29:19,383
Rel/gion is boring and dull,
579
00:29:19,467 --> 00:29:22,929
but Jesus is life.
580
00:29:23,012 --> 00:29:25,431
Now, my next guest is
a new friend to the 700 club,
581
00:29:26,015 --> 00:29:29,560
and / can smell his chicken, yes.
582
00:29:29,644 --> 00:29:34,857
7'he colonel, colonel Sanders
in the 700 club!
583
00:29:41,447 --> 00:29:45,576
Oh, the crowd appreciates you.
I think they like you.
584
00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:47,578
I think the y're wanting
some of that chicken.
585
00:29:47,662 --> 00:29:49,014
Jim: / guess
the housewives of america
586
00:29:49,038 --> 00:29:50,518
are thanking you for fixing dinner...
587
00:29:53,626 --> 00:29:54,710
Hello.
588
00:29:54,794 --> 00:29:56,295
Tammy: Oh, hl, /I//om.
589
00:29:56,379 --> 00:29:59,674
Do you know what time it is?
Why are you calling so late?
590
00:29:59,757 --> 00:30:02,551
Well, Jim says that I need
to rest for my pregnancy,
591
00:30:02,635 --> 00:30:06,097
but, oh, you know me. I can't rest,
592
00:30:06,180 --> 00:30:08,349
so thought I'd call my mother
to keep me company.
593
00:30:08,432 --> 00:30:10,309
I never got a rest.
594
00:30:10,393 --> 00:30:12,561
Oh, I miss working, though.
You know?
595
00:30:12,645 --> 00:30:15,523
It's so lonesome at home all by myself.
596
00:30:15,606 --> 00:30:18,067
Wo w/ oh, wo w/
597
00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:19,485
and he barely touches me anymore.
598
00:30:19,568 --> 00:30:21,946
And when he does, it's not enthusiastic.
599
00:30:23,447 --> 00:30:26,993
Well, it's up to the wife to make
herself desirable for her husband.
600
00:30:27,076 --> 00:30:29,495
I do that. Oh, I do.
601
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:32,164
He's just really busy.
602
00:30:32,248 --> 00:30:33,874
Jim: Really?
603
00:30:33,958 --> 00:30:36,127
So, are you watching Jim's show?
604
00:30:36,210 --> 00:30:38,421
7'hat new talk show of his is on.
605
00:30:38,504 --> 00:30:39,839
Serving god don't feel like
606
00:30:39,922 --> 00:30:41,841
it should be a money-making opportunity.
607
00:30:41,924 --> 00:30:42,925
Tammy: Yeah.
608
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:45,761
You know,
I wanna do what he's doing.
609
00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:48,889
And I wanna sing
and not in a puppet voice.
610
00:30:48,973 --> 00:30:51,642
And I wanna talk about issues
that affect people's daily lives.
611
00:30:51,726 --> 00:30:53,328
And there's so much
that we don't talk about.
612
00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:54,353
There's so many secrets,
613
00:30:54,437 --> 00:30:57,690
and, you know, everyone says
I'm supposed to be tireo',
614
00:30:58,399 --> 00:31:00,401
but I just wanna love people.
615
00:31:00,484 --> 00:31:01,944
You got me out of bed
616
00:31:02,028 --> 00:31:03,738
to talk to me
about how you're not tired.
617
00:31:03,821 --> 00:31:05,656
Does that make sense to you?
618
00:31:09,785 --> 00:31:13,039
- Sorry.
- Night night, tam. Take care.
619
00:31:13,122 --> 00:31:15,124
Tammy: Good n/ght, ll/lom.
I love you.
620
00:31:16,417 --> 00:31:17,752
Okay, bye-bye.
621
00:31:20,921 --> 00:31:21,922
Fred: Who was it?
622
00:31:24,842 --> 00:31:25,926
Rachel: That was tam.
623
00:31:26,010 --> 00:31:27,011
Fred: How is she?
624
00:31:27,094 --> 00:31:29,072
Rachel: Well, it seems like
she's having some trouble
625
00:31:29,096 --> 00:31:30,598
with the pregnancy.
What'd I miss?
626
00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:31,766
Jim: A second childhood
627
00:31:31,849 --> 00:31:33,243
Fred: I don't know.
The sound was off.
628
00:31:33,267 --> 00:31:34,685
You love kids, don't you?
629
00:31:34,769 --> 00:31:36,455
- You love children.
- Colonel Sanders: Ldo.
630
00:31:36,479 --> 00:31:39,899
Iha ve five grandchildren
and 74 great-grandchildren.
631
00:31:39,982 --> 00:31:42,068
I/I/ow./ -
632
00:31:42,985 --> 00:31:44,987
I bet the y're spoiled
do you spoil them?
633
00:31:53,245 --> 00:31:55,247
Oh, dear lord god.
634
00:31:57,917 --> 00:32:01,504
What doors are you gonna
open up for me to walk through?
635
00:32:04,757 --> 00:32:06,884
What can I do for happiness?
636
00:32:09,970 --> 00:32:12,098
Oh, / wanna get back on TV
637
00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:16,811
I'm going back to work for you.
638
00:32:36,956 --> 00:32:38,332
Well...
639
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:41,502
What do you think he pays himself?
640
00:32:41,585 --> 00:32:42,586
Oh.
641
00:32:45,297 --> 00:32:46,608
I should have worn the other dress.
642
00:32:46,632 --> 00:32:48,008
Jim: You look fine, honey.
643
00:32:50,678 --> 00:32:51,887
Jim: There he is.
644
00:32:51,971 --> 00:32:54,098
Tammy: Dede's wearing a mink.
That's a real mink!
645
00:32:54,181 --> 00:32:55,558
And it's warm outside.
646
00:32:55,641 --> 00:32:58,102
You know, we...
We paid for all this, Tammy.
647
00:32:58,185 --> 00:33:01,188
You and me,
from the swimming pool to the hot tub,
648
00:33:02,064 --> 00:33:04,233
and dede's dead animal.
We paid for it.
649
00:33:04,316 --> 00:33:07,027
Well, the fruit isn't dropping our way,
that's for sure.
650
00:33:07,111 --> 00:33:09,822
My little stars!
651
00:33:10,614 --> 00:33:12,032
Hello. Hey, pat!
652
00:33:12,116 --> 00:33:13,426
- What a beautiful place!
- How are you?
653
00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:15,286
- Oh, thank you, thank you!
- Paradise!
654
00:33:15,369 --> 00:33:18,414
Look at that little baby, too.
Positively a chipmunk.
655
00:33:18,497 --> 00:33:19,874
Thanks.
656
00:33:19,957 --> 00:33:20,958
Hey, that's a nice coat.
657
00:33:21,041 --> 00:33:22,293
Oh, thank you, dear.
658
00:33:22,376 --> 00:33:23,377
Must be hot though.
659
00:33:23,460 --> 00:33:24,545
No, not in the least.
660
00:33:24,628 --> 00:33:26,463
Oh.
661
00:33:26,547 --> 00:33:27,858
Pat: Hey, Jim, I've been thinking.
662
00:33:27,882 --> 00:33:30,009
- Jim: Mm-hmm?
- Have you given any thought
663
00:33:30,092 --> 00:33:32,386
to taking some time off
to be with your family?
664
00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:35,097
These times do not come back.
665
00:33:35,181 --> 00:33:36,182
- No.
- Trust me,
666
00:33:36,265 --> 00:33:37,576
they are precious, precious times.
667
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,018
- Pat: No, sir.
- Jim: Mm.
668
00:33:39,101 --> 00:33:42,021
I can do the 700 club for a time.
669
00:33:42,855 --> 00:33:46,150
We can air reruns of
Jim and tammyfor a few weeks.
670
00:33:46,817 --> 00:33:48,694
- Tammy: Hmm.
- A couple of months even.
671
00:33:48,777 --> 00:33:50,696
What do you think?
672
00:33:52,364 --> 00:33:54,575
It's very...
It's very kind of you, uncle pat.
673
00:33:54,658 --> 00:33:56,202
Thank you.
674
00:33:56,285 --> 00:34:00,122
But, you know, I got that bond going
with my audience, you know?
675
00:34:00,206 --> 00:34:01,373
We're on the up-and-up.
676
00:34:01,457 --> 00:34:03,500
I couldn't think
of abandoning them right now.
677
00:34:03,584 --> 00:34:05,628
- Well, we'll think about it.
- Oh, pat, pat, pat!
678
00:34:05,711 --> 00:34:07,046
- Pat: Oh.
- He came.
679
00:34:07,129 --> 00:34:09,381
Tammy: Oh, my goodness!
680
00:34:14,386 --> 00:34:15,804
- Pat: Hello! Hello!
- Honey.
681
00:34:15,888 --> 00:34:16,948
- I see, I see him.
- Go say hi!
682
00:34:16,972 --> 00:34:18,742
I know, I see him.
We'll sit down, we'll sit down.
683
00:34:18,766 --> 00:34:20,017
Pat: Was your drive in okay?
684
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:21,578
- Jim, go say hi!
- I don't wanna say hi.
685
00:34:21,602 --> 00:34:22,978
I'm fine. We'll say hi later.
686
00:34:23,062 --> 00:34:24,855
Pat: You remember Jim and Tammy Faye?
687
00:34:24,939 --> 00:34:26,625
Hey, now, the puppet people!
688
00:34:26,649 --> 00:34:28,859
Oh, my goodness, just...
689
00:34:28,943 --> 00:34:30,819
What a pleasure, Mr. Falwell.
690
00:34:30,903 --> 00:34:32,655
A pleasure and a blessing.
691
00:34:32,738 --> 00:34:36,033
You are truly an inspiration to me.
It's an honor.
692
00:34:36,116 --> 00:34:37,701
Nice to meet you, Jerry.
I'm Tammy.
693
00:34:37,785 --> 00:34:39,328
Jim: Tammy Faye and this is sissy.
694
00:34:39,411 --> 00:34:40,972
Aren't the three of you
695
00:34:40,996 --> 00:34:41,997
as cute as a button?
696
00:34:42,081 --> 00:34:43,332
- Tammy: Aw!
- Pat: Yes, sir!
697
00:34:44,208 --> 00:34:45,584
Jerry: It's a moral issue...
698
00:34:48,295 --> 00:34:50,172
Feminist revolution.
699
00:34:55,469 --> 00:34:56,804
Dede: You know it was fate.
700
00:34:56,887 --> 00:34:59,473
It was when my youngest
was being baptized,
701
00:34:59,556 --> 00:35:01,183
she was such a little-bitty thing
702
00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:05,396
that we had to put a little milk crate
in the baptismal for her to stand on.
703
00:35:06,730 --> 00:35:09,066
Come on, let's go see daddy.
704
00:35:13,696 --> 00:35:15,114
Hi!
705
00:35:15,197 --> 00:35:16,865
Could I sit down?
706
00:35:18,033 --> 00:35:19,576
I have the baby, you know.
707
00:35:19,660 --> 00:35:21,578
It's kinda hard to eat and, you know...
708
00:35:21,662 --> 00:35:23,038
Jim: Sure. Um, yeah.
709
00:35:23,122 --> 00:35:25,916
Using the fork and the knife
at the same time
710
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,560
and, you know, get the food to my mouth.
711
00:35:27,584 --> 00:35:28,585
Well, why don't...
712
00:35:28,669 --> 00:35:30,004
- I think...
- And I wanna hear
713
00:35:30,087 --> 00:35:31,588
all this interesting stuff.
714
00:35:31,672 --> 00:35:32,732
- Pat: Yeah, but...
- Honey_.
715
00:35:32,756 --> 00:35:34,466
- Tammy: Well, I'll be right back.
- Tam.
716
00:35:36,885 --> 00:35:38,012
She's a firecracker, Jim.
717
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,768
- Jim.
- Yes.
718
00:35:44,852 --> 00:35:46,312
Come on.
719
00:35:46,395 --> 00:35:47,795
Swaggart: Okay.
720
00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:50,899
Swaggart: Okay.
721
00:35:50,983 --> 00:35:52,651
Well, very nice.
722
00:35:53,152 --> 00:35:54,653
As you were saying, Jerry?
723
00:35:56,739 --> 00:35:58,949
Let's call me reverend falwell.
724
00:35:59,825 --> 00:36:00,826
Of course.
725
00:36:02,494 --> 00:36:04,663
Jerry: Young people today
are raised on television.
726
00:36:04,747 --> 00:36:06,874
It's taught them an immorality.
727
00:36:06,957 --> 00:36:11,628
But now, we are on television.
728
00:36:13,088 --> 00:36:14,882
When I created the 700 club,
729
00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:18,302
all I needed was 700 people
to keep us going.
730
00:36:18,385 --> 00:36:22,056
A year later,
we're in six markets and growin'.
731
00:36:22,139 --> 00:36:26,727
Hundreds of thousands of folks
are hearin' the word.
732
00:36:26,810 --> 00:36:28,812
Now, god has a voice in this fight.
733
00:36:28,896 --> 00:36:30,147
- Swaggart: Amen.
- Pat: Mm-hmm.
734
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:32,149
Mm. Who's he fighting?
735
00:36:32,941 --> 00:36:34,401
Jerry: The liberal agenda.
736
00:36:34,485 --> 00:36:36,904
The feminist agenda.
737
00:36:36,987 --> 00:36:38,197
Homosexual agenda.
738
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,450
It's time for a reversal
of these trends.
739
00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:44,661
The only hope's in saving america.
740
00:36:44,745 --> 00:36:45,889
Swaggart: Get back to the good old days.
741
00:36:45,913 --> 00:36:47,193
Jim: Mm. Mm.
742
00:36:47,915 --> 00:36:50,334
Well, I love our country,
743
00:36:51,043 --> 00:36:52,878
but america is for them, too.
744
00:36:52,961 --> 00:36:55,422
Uh... well...
745
00:36:55,506 --> 00:36:56,507
- Oh, tam?
- Mm?
746
00:36:56,590 --> 00:36:57,984
Will you mind getting me another coke?
747
00:36:58,008 --> 00:36:59,176
Jim, let your wife speak.
748
00:37:00,386 --> 00:37:03,514
Debate. I think it gets us
all back to unity.
749
00:37:03,597 --> 00:37:06,433
Oh, I don't want to debate you, Jerry.
I love you.
750
00:37:06,517 --> 00:37:08,519
- I love all of you guys.
- Reverend falwell.
751
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,521
Pat: Um...
752
00:37:10,604 --> 00:37:12,481
We love you, too, Tammy Faye.
753
00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:13,982
Man: Yes, we do.
754
00:37:15,317 --> 00:37:16,485
Jerry: God as my witness,
755
00:37:16,568 --> 00:37:20,781
I made a pledge to continue
to expose the sins in this country.
756
00:37:21,448 --> 00:37:25,119
The Bible explicitly
forbids homosexuality.
757
00:37:25,202 --> 00:37:26,995
There's no gray area.
758
00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:28,580
Tammy: Mm.
759
00:37:28,664 --> 00:37:32,334
Well, you know, I don't think
of them as homosexuals.
760
00:37:32,418 --> 00:37:34,795
I just think of them as other
human beings that I love.
761
00:37:34,878 --> 00:37:39,174
You know, we're all just people
made out of the same old dirt.
762
00:37:39,258 --> 00:37:41,176
And god didn't make any junk.
763
00:37:42,428 --> 00:37:43,429
Right, honey?
764
00:37:47,141 --> 00:37:48,267
- Jim: Tammy?
- Hmm?
765
00:37:49,726 --> 00:37:50,978
- Tam.
- Hmm?
766
00:37:51,061 --> 00:37:53,105
You can't... what are you doing?
767
00:37:53,188 --> 00:37:54,541
Tammy: I'm changing the baby, honey.
768
00:37:54,565 --> 00:37:56,900
Jim: You can't talk to him like that.
769
00:37:57,860 --> 00:38:01,071
That's the big boss man.
We need him to like us.
770
00:38:01,155 --> 00:38:02,781
- Jim.
- No, Tammy.
771
00:38:02,865 --> 00:38:05,868
Look, listen to me.
I'm trying to build something here.
772
00:38:05,951 --> 00:38:07,578
I'm not messing around.
773
00:38:07,661 --> 00:38:10,956
God told me he wants me
to have what pat has.
774
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:14,293
But if you keep acting like that,
if you keep talking to falwell that way,
775
00:38:14,376 --> 00:38:15,627
I'm not gonna ever get there.
776
00:38:15,711 --> 00:38:18,046
Well, god's been talking to me, too,
you know, Jim?
777
00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:19,673
And he said that I gotta speak up.
778
00:38:21,008 --> 00:38:22,551
So, here goes.
779
00:38:22,634 --> 00:38:25,345
You can't leave me at home all alone,
780
00:38:25,429 --> 00:38:27,890
feeling unloved, and useless.
781
00:38:29,475 --> 00:38:33,103
And he said that I belong on TV
just as much as you do.
782
00:38:33,187 --> 00:38:35,856
And that I should sing
and I should be funny.
783
00:38:35,939 --> 00:38:38,692
And I should talk about real things
for grown-ups.
784
00:38:38,775 --> 00:38:40,986
Just, you know, just the way you do.
785
00:38:43,155 --> 00:38:44,156
And...
786
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:48,785
He says I'm not gonna tell people
who's going to hell, Jim.
787
00:38:50,329 --> 00:38:52,498
We're in the business of healing people.
788
00:38:55,501 --> 00:38:56,710
Yes.
789
00:38:58,378 --> 00:39:01,173
Jerry falwell's a powerful man,
Tammy Faye.
790
00:39:03,550 --> 00:39:05,385
Jim bakker
791
00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:08,680
is a powerful man.
792
00:39:09,723 --> 00:39:12,017
Jim bakker.
793
00:39:15,646 --> 00:39:19,233
Yes, he is, Tammy Faye bakker.
794
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:24,404
I'm so, so sorry.
I forgot my own strength...
795
00:39:25,781 --> 00:39:27,491
And my manly duties.
796
00:39:28,408 --> 00:39:30,202
It's okay.
797
00:39:31,453 --> 00:39:33,330
You know, we built cbn in four years
798
00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:35,791
and we could build our own in half that.
799
00:39:36,667 --> 00:39:38,126
Yes, I think we can.
800
00:39:39,962 --> 00:39:41,922
Oh, yeah, we can.
801
00:39:43,048 --> 00:39:45,551
Yes.
802
00:39:46,343 --> 00:39:49,721
Jim bakker is gonna
be a builder for Christ.
803
00:39:50,764 --> 00:39:52,766
Oh, yes, he will.
804
00:39:52,849 --> 00:39:55,894
And Tammy Faye bakker
805
00:39:55,978 --> 00:40:00,482
is gonna sing her gospel
all around the world.
806
00:40:00,566 --> 00:40:02,651
We are gonna spread his word.
807
00:40:03,402 --> 00:40:04,403
Oh, my!
808
00:40:08,115 --> 00:40:10,367
Announcer: Coming to you
from praise the lord studios
809
00:40:10,450 --> 00:40:12,035
in Charlotte, north Carolina,
810
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:14,288
broadcasting live
across this great nation.
811
00:40:14,371 --> 00:40:16,123
Praise the lord television network
812
00:40:16,206 --> 00:40:19,626
presents our 17 ve-year anniversary
Christmas special...
813
00:40:19,710 --> 00:40:21,920
The Jim and 7'amm y show!
814
00:40:22,004 --> 00:40:23,964
Tammy and singers:
Ooh we 're blest
815
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,384
we are blest
816
00:40:27,467 --> 00:40:29,928
yes, we've got shelter
clothing and strength
817
00:40:30,012 --> 00:40:33,056
we are blest
818
00:40:33,140 --> 00:40:34,860
I/I/e 're blest, we 're blest, we 're blest
819
00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:38,395
we are blest
820
00:40:38,478 --> 00:40:43,567
I/I/e don't deserve it
but yet we are blest
821
00:40:43,650 --> 00:40:47,070
I/I/e don't deserve it but yet we are blest
822
00:40:47,154 --> 00:40:48,905
Hi, everybody!
823
00:40:50,490 --> 00:40:53,368
Nice to see you.
Hi! How are you?
824
00:40:53,869 --> 00:40:55,787
Look at all of you! Wow!
825
00:40:55,871 --> 00:40:57,289
My land!
826
00:40:57,372 --> 00:40:59,292
What a beautiful audience!
Hi, how are you doing?
827
00:40:59,333 --> 00:41:03,420
God has worked miracles!
I want miracles for all of us!
828
00:41:03,503 --> 00:41:06,548
We've got a marvelous show
for you today. Little Richard is here!
829
00:41:06,632 --> 00:41:08,258
God loves you.
830
00:41:08,342 --> 00:41:09,968
He really does!
831
00:41:10,052 --> 00:41:12,655
Reporter: They are doing god's work
teaching skills to the homeless.
832
00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:14,348
Providing housing for unwed mothers
833
00:41:14,431 --> 00:41:15,807
and handicapped children.
834
00:41:22,272 --> 00:41:24,524
Ptl brings the word of god
and Jesus Christ
835
00:41:24,608 --> 00:41:25,835
- to the whole world.
- That's it.
836
00:41:25,859 --> 00:41:28,487
- God bless you, honey.
- It's a powerful thing!
837
00:41:35,077 --> 00:41:36,757
Reporter 2: Five years ago,
the ptl network
838
00:41:36,828 --> 00:41:39,998
was little more than a prayer
and a dream.
839
00:41:40,082 --> 00:41:42,376
Today, the nation's
fourth largest network.
840
00:41:42,459 --> 00:41:47,297
I/I/e don't deserve it but yet we are blest
841
00:41:48,215 --> 00:41:52,010
I/I/e don't deserve it but yet we are blest
842
00:41:53,011 --> 00:41:55,013
yes, people. We truly are blessed
843
00:41:55,097 --> 00:41:58,392
because there is no condemnation
for them which are in Jesus Christ.
844
00:41:58,475 --> 00:42:01,770
Therefore, if god is for us,
who could be against us?
845
00:42:01,853 --> 00:42:04,231
Blessed are they that hunger
and thirst for his glory,
846
00:42:04,314 --> 00:42:06,191
for they shall be filled.
847
00:42:06,274 --> 00:42:09,152
Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see god.
848
00:42:09,236 --> 00:42:13,365
We have gathered us into his kingdom
and made us priests of god his father.
849
00:42:13,448 --> 00:42:18,286
Give unto him everlasting glory,
he rules forever! Amen!
850
00:42:18,370 --> 00:42:20,122
Amen!
851
00:42:20,205 --> 00:42:21,289
Wow!
852
00:42:24,084 --> 00:42:25,627
My land!
853
00:42:29,965 --> 00:42:32,134
Tammy Faye, ladies and gentlemen,
854
00:42:32,217 --> 00:42:33,468
Tammy Faye bakker!
855
00:42:34,136 --> 00:42:38,014
And it's the happiest time of the year,
it's Christmas!
856
00:42:38,515 --> 00:42:41,309
And remember, never forget it.
857
00:42:41,393 --> 00:42:44,855
You know what I'm gonna say.
God loves you.
858
00:42:44,938 --> 00:42:46,898
He really, really, really does.
859
00:42:46,982 --> 00:42:48,817
Merry Christmas, everyone!
860
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:51,278
- Merry Christmas!
- Bye-bye, everybody!
861
00:42:51,361 --> 00:42:53,155
I'm Fletcher, Jim's right-hand man.
862
00:42:53,238 --> 00:42:55,782
Jim and Tammy are gonna be
so happy to see you.
863
00:42:55,866 --> 00:42:58,577
I can't believe you've never
made it down to the studios before.
864
00:42:58,660 --> 00:43:01,496
Well, the carolinas are a long way
from international falls.
865
00:43:01,580 --> 00:43:03,940
Have you always been involved
with the church, Mr. Fletcher?
866
00:43:03,999 --> 00:43:05,625
I've done all sorts of things.
867
00:43:05,709 --> 00:43:07,961
Once, I was even a party clown.
868
00:43:08,044 --> 00:43:09,272
You don't believe me, but it's true.
869
00:43:09,296 --> 00:43:11,047
Come, this way.
Show's about to start.
870
00:43:11,131 --> 00:43:12,132
Fred: Party clown?
871
00:43:12,215 --> 00:43:13,592
We'll get you set up.
872
00:43:13,675 --> 00:43:15,886
Man: But the penile implant
of the inflatable type
873
00:43:15,969 --> 00:43:17,721
is the one that we see here.
874
00:43:17,804 --> 00:43:19,222
Mm-hmm.
And this is the newest one?
875
00:43:19,306 --> 00:43:22,392
Well, it is. And when the man
wants to become erect,
876
00:43:23,143 --> 00:43:24,644
he simply reaches down
877
00:43:24,728 --> 00:43:28,231
and he squeezes that several times
878
00:43:28,315 --> 00:43:29,566
and the man becomes firm.
879
00:43:29,649 --> 00:43:31,693
I think that's fantastic.
880
00:43:33,195 --> 00:43:35,363
Go ahead, audience, go ahead.
881
00:43:37,365 --> 00:43:39,451
Well, you know something else
that's fantastic?
882
00:43:39,534 --> 00:43:41,578
I'm so excited I'm just beside myself.
883
00:43:41,661 --> 00:43:43,872
I would like to introduce you
884
00:43:43,955 --> 00:43:47,083
to my mother and her husband,
885
00:43:47,167 --> 00:43:48,919
Rachel and Fred grover.
886
00:43:49,002 --> 00:43:51,671
Stand up, everybody, stand up.
887
00:43:51,755 --> 00:43:52,923
Come on. Stand up,
888
00:43:53,006 --> 00:43:54,800
that deserves
a b/g ol' round of applause.
889
00:43:57,135 --> 00:43:58,678
Stand up, mom.
890
00:44:04,768 --> 00:44:06,019
Tammy: Thank you.
891
00:44:06,102 --> 00:44:07,854
So, here's the house.
892
00:44:07,938 --> 00:44:10,816
Isn't it beautiful?
I just think it's so neat.
893
00:44:10,899 --> 00:44:14,069
Our ministry's building lots of houses
on the ptl property.
894
00:44:14,152 --> 00:44:16,780
There's one with pregnant teens
and one for kids with needs.
895
00:44:16,863 --> 00:44:18,549
It's all part of our mission
to help people.
896
00:44:18,573 --> 00:44:20,492
Fred: This is just wonderful, honey.
897
00:44:20,575 --> 00:44:21,969
Yeah, I'm so glad you guys are here.
898
00:44:21,993 --> 00:44:23,578
I got you set up in the guest room
899
00:44:23,662 --> 00:44:26,289
and you can stay there
until your new house is ready.
900
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:29,292
Come on. Let me give you a tour.
901
00:44:29,376 --> 00:44:33,004
This is the relaxation room.
902
00:44:34,047 --> 00:44:37,050
Oh, now that you're here, I'm just gonna
bug you anytime I want to.
903
00:44:37,133 --> 00:44:39,845
Oh, yeah, I'm gonna wake you up
any hour of the night.
904
00:44:39,928 --> 00:44:42,568
I'm just so glad to have you here
in the ptl property with me, mom.
905
00:44:44,140 --> 00:44:46,852
All those people looking at me
and clapping.
906
00:44:46,935 --> 00:44:48,270
Oh, no.
907
00:44:48,353 --> 00:44:50,605
Rachel: I don't appreciate
being bamboozled like that.
908
00:44:50,689 --> 00:44:51,773
It's love, mom.
909
00:44:52,566 --> 00:44:54,150
Oh, yeah, that's god's love.
910
00:44:54,234 --> 00:44:56,945
Every day, I have rapture.
911
00:44:57,028 --> 00:44:58,029
Rachel: Rapture?
912
00:44:58,113 --> 00:45:01,867
You just spent an hour talking
about pumping penises.
913
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:05,662
Well, these things happen to people
914
00:45:05,745 --> 00:45:08,665
and I'm just being honest
about the way that life is.
915
00:45:08,748 --> 00:45:11,751
And I'm providing solutions
916
00:45:11,835 --> 00:45:13,545
to make marriages better.
917
00:45:13,628 --> 00:45:15,422
- Tam, where's the privy?
- On the left.
918
00:45:15,505 --> 00:45:16,590
Okay.
919
00:45:16,673 --> 00:45:17,674
Sit down, mom.
920
00:45:18,633 --> 00:45:20,385
Who paid for this house, Tammy?
921
00:45:20,468 --> 00:45:22,262
Well, the ministry makes lots of houses.
922
00:45:22,345 --> 00:45:23,847
We've got one for unwed mothers.
923
00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:25,283
Wait till you see Kevin's house.
924
00:45:25,307 --> 00:45:28,476
Oh, yeah, that one's for kids
with special needs.
925
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,896
And it's named after a sweet little boy
named Kevin.
926
00:45:30,979 --> 00:45:32,063
Oh, he's 13 years old
927
00:45:32,147 --> 00:45:35,483
and he is the sweetest,
tiniest little thing you ever saw.
928
00:45:35,567 --> 00:45:38,028
His hands are attached to his shoulders
929
00:45:38,111 --> 00:45:39,905
and he has no arms at all.
930
00:45:39,988 --> 00:45:41,114
Bless his little heart.
931
00:45:42,032 --> 00:45:43,617
Let me show you to your room.
932
00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:49,432
Okay, everyone,
let's see if I can do this.
933
00:45:49,456 --> 00:45:51,256
So, now, you're gonna
go in a circle.
934
00:45:51,291 --> 00:45:54,294
Oh, mine looks a little bit
like it had an explosion.
935
00:45:54,377 --> 00:45:55,813
You know what I'm gonna do?
936
00:45:55,837 --> 00:45:58,548
'Cause normally when I use frosting,
it's not this thick.
937
00:45:58,632 --> 00:45:59,633
I'm just gonna do that.
938
00:45:59,716 --> 00:46:01,110
I think it's gonna be pretty.
939
00:46:01,134 --> 00:46:02,820
You know, next time,
I'm gonna make you guys my fudge.
940
00:46:02,844 --> 00:46:04,846
That's the best.
I think I've only made that,
941
00:46:04,930 --> 00:46:07,557
you know, on the show,
like, a couple times. Mm.
942
00:46:07,641 --> 00:46:09,351
I know! I wish we had smell-o-vision,
943
00:46:09,434 --> 00:46:10,578
so you could smell this.
944
00:46:10,602 --> 00:46:12,687
This is really nice.
945
00:46:18,526 --> 00:46:19,611
Oh!
946
00:46:19,694 --> 00:46:21,404
That one.
How much time do we have?
947
00:46:21,488 --> 00:46:22,572
Man: 10 minutes, Tammy.
948
00:46:22,656 --> 00:46:24,157
Oh, goodness!
949
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,869
Hey, mom. Did you see the show?
950
00:46:27,953 --> 00:46:29,579
Wasn't that fun?
951
00:46:29,663 --> 00:46:32,624
I'm not sure what's so Christian
about decorating a cupcake.
952
00:46:32,707 --> 00:46:35,210
Oh, mom, you're so funny.
953
00:46:35,293 --> 00:46:36,836
- Have you seen this?
- Tammy: Hmm?
954
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:37,921
From the observer.
955
00:46:38,004 --> 00:46:40,048
Picture of you and Jim on the front.
956
00:46:41,216 --> 00:46:43,677
"Ptl's bakker diverts ministry funds
957
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,388
"for new building project."
958
00:46:46,888 --> 00:46:48,139
What's that about?
959
00:46:49,641 --> 00:46:51,017
Well, you can't believe everything
960
00:46:51,101 --> 00:46:52,811
that you read in the newspapers, mom.
961
00:46:52,894 --> 00:46:54,646
How's Fred doing?
Is he settling in okay?
962
00:46:54,729 --> 00:46:58,108
Smoke and fire
idn'tjust the Providence of hell, girl.
963
00:46:58,191 --> 00:47:00,169
You know when I saw that
clipping with my face on it,
964
00:47:00,193 --> 00:47:02,445
I thought for a second
that you were proud of me.
965
00:47:03,154 --> 00:47:07,200
I'm hearing there are articles like this
in the paper every day.
966
00:47:07,283 --> 00:47:08,994
The secular press hates us
967
00:47:09,077 --> 00:47:12,455
because we're winning
millions of souls for Jesus.
968
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:14,499
Oh, Tammy Faye.
969
00:47:14,582 --> 00:47:16,292
You follow blindly.
970
00:47:16,376 --> 00:47:19,421
In the end, all you are is blind.
971
00:47:21,715 --> 00:47:23,049
Jim: I don't know how to do it.
972
00:47:23,133 --> 00:47:25,593
I just need it done.
That is your job.
973
00:47:25,677 --> 00:47:26,678
Yes.
974
00:47:27,804 --> 00:47:28,888
Yes.
975
00:47:28,972 --> 00:47:29,973
God bless you.
976
00:47:42,485 --> 00:47:44,612
You wonder why I don't snuggle you.
977
00:47:46,156 --> 00:47:49,325
Maybe it's all that goopy stuff on you.
978
00:47:50,368 --> 00:47:54,706
Well, it's better than
spending the night with an alligator.
979
00:47:55,415 --> 00:47:57,417
Oh.
980
00:47:57,500 --> 00:47:59,002
That newspaper.
981
00:48:00,003 --> 00:48:03,006
She saved it like
it was a little treasure.
982
00:48:03,673 --> 00:48:05,967
It made me feel so rotten.
983
00:48:07,135 --> 00:48:09,846
Well, your mother's never been
all that nice to you.
984
00:48:10,472 --> 00:48:11,681
Yeah.
985
00:48:12,307 --> 00:48:14,059
Some people just don't change.
986
00:48:15,310 --> 00:48:18,104
We're not doing anything wrong, though.
987
00:48:26,029 --> 00:48:27,864
Is that a question?
988
00:48:47,217 --> 00:48:48,802
Tammy, sometimes, I fear
989
00:48:48,885 --> 00:48:52,347
that what god wants of me
is beyond my abilities.
990
00:48:52,972 --> 00:48:54,641
I'm building so much for him
991
00:48:54,724 --> 00:48:57,644
in his name and for his people.
992
00:48:58,394 --> 00:48:59,687
- Yeah.
- And...
993
00:49:00,522 --> 00:49:02,482
And he's giving me
more visions every day.
994
00:49:02,565 --> 00:49:04,776
Giving me more orders all the time.
995
00:49:04,859 --> 00:49:07,570
And then, every day, these creditors...
996
00:49:09,364 --> 00:49:12,742
And the people who are asking me
to save them.
997
00:49:15,078 --> 00:49:16,558
I'm only one man.
998
00:49:16,621 --> 00:49:18,123
I'm only one man, Tammy.
999
00:49:18,206 --> 00:49:19,541
Tammy: Oh, Jim.
1000
00:49:20,750 --> 00:49:23,169
Well, I only need one man.
1001
00:49:23,253 --> 00:49:24,712
You're enough, honey.
1002
00:49:26,631 --> 00:49:28,341
Okay, come on. Come to bed.
1003
00:49:29,717 --> 00:49:31,761
Honey, it's been two months,
1004
00:49:31,845 --> 00:49:34,639
and we said we were gonna try
to have another baby.
1005
00:49:34,722 --> 00:49:36,474
Tammy, I need your help.
1006
00:49:36,558 --> 00:49:39,394
I need you not to get in my way.
1007
00:49:39,477 --> 00:49:42,522
And I need you to not ask
more of me than I can give.
1008
00:49:42,605 --> 00:49:43,606
Okay.
1009
00:49:44,983 --> 00:49:46,526
Do you wanna talk some more?
1010
00:49:52,699 --> 00:49:54,784
Can you...
1011
00:49:54,868 --> 00:49:56,578
Can you talk to god?
1012
00:49:57,871 --> 00:49:59,998
I'm so tired and...
1013
00:50:02,542 --> 00:50:03,668
Yes?
1014
00:50:05,295 --> 00:50:06,504
I'll call you right back.
1015
00:50:08,006 --> 00:50:09,007
I'll take it downstairs.
1016
00:50:21,394 --> 00:50:22,746
Tammy and chorus: Don'tgive up
1017
00:50:22,770 --> 00:50:25,648
you're on the brink
1018
00:50:25,732 --> 00:50:29,819
of a miracle
1019
00:50:29,903 --> 00:50:31,988
don't give up
1020
00:50:32,071 --> 00:50:36,492
remember you're not alone
1021
00:50:37,952 --> 00:50:42,457
People, don't give up
you're on the brink
1022
00:50:42,540 --> 00:50:45,960
of a miracle
1023
00:50:46,044 --> 00:50:50,173
Don't give up on the brink
1024
00:50:50,256 --> 00:50:54,385
of a miracle -
1025
00:50:54,469 --> 00:50:56,512
Don't give in
1026
00:50:56,596 --> 00:51:00,391
god is still on the throne
1027
00:51:00,475 --> 00:51:02,435
he's on his throne
1028
00:51:02,518 --> 00:51:05,021
don't give up
1029
00:51:05,104 --> 00:51:07,023
You nailed it.
1030
00:51:07,106 --> 00:51:08,316
Really?
1031
00:51:08,942 --> 00:51:11,527
This is sublime.
This is top drawer.
1032
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,905
You really think so, Gary?
1033
00:51:14,489 --> 00:51:15,615
I know so.
1034
00:51:15,698 --> 00:51:17,492
Your opinion means so much to me.
1035
00:51:17,575 --> 00:51:19,637
I haven't been this excited
about working with an artist
1036
00:51:19,661 --> 00:51:21,204
since I produced monster mash.
1037
00:51:21,913 --> 00:51:24,624
That's really sweet.
1038
00:51:24,707 --> 00:51:26,876
We could get a grammy.
1039
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,003
- Really?
- Really.
1040
00:51:35,051 --> 00:51:37,303
Tammy, it's time to go.
Time for the shoot.
1041
00:51:37,387 --> 00:51:38,596
Come on. We're...
1042
00:51:39,180 --> 00:51:40,598
Can you hear me?
1043
00:51:40,682 --> 00:51:42,242
- Yeah.
- I/I/e've been looking for you,
1044
00:51:42,308 --> 00:51:44,602
so, let's go.
We 're live in 75 minutes.
1045
00:51:44,686 --> 00:51:46,271
Hey, hey, Jim, how are ya?
1046
00:51:47,105 --> 00:51:48,481
Blessed, Gary, blessed
1047
00:51:48,564 --> 00:51:50,900
I'm sorry, Jim.
You know, I got lost in the music.
1048
00:51:50,984 --> 00:51:54,153
Gary here,
he just makes it all so awesome.
1049
00:51:54,237 --> 00:51:55,589
Wait till you hear it.
1050
00:51:55,613 --> 00:51:56,614
You're going to love it.
1051
00:51:56,698 --> 00:51:58,074
No, it's her voice, Jim.
1052
00:51:58,157 --> 00:52:01,869
I just turn the knobs here.
She sings like an angel.
1053
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:05,540
Well, I'm never giving you
back to Nashville, oh, no!
1054
00:52:06,499 --> 00:52:08,543
It's such a beautiful way
to connect, Jim.
1055
00:52:08,626 --> 00:52:10,503
It's god's voice through my voice.
1056
00:52:10,586 --> 00:52:11,963
To the world's ears.
1057
00:52:12,588 --> 00:52:13,840
The things you say, Gary.
1058
00:52:15,133 --> 00:52:16,968
7'ammy/ you're not camera ready.
1059
00:52:17,051 --> 00:52:19,154
You know everybody's waiting for you
and it's a b/g day.
1060
00:52:19,178 --> 00:52:21,639
We gotta do 400 k today.
Can we shake a leg, please?
1061
00:52:21,723 --> 00:52:23,725
Thank you.
I'm sorry to drag her away, Gary.
1062
00:52:23,808 --> 00:52:26,144
Okay!
1063
00:52:26,227 --> 00:52:27,395
Shake a leg, please.
1064
00:52:27,478 --> 00:52:28,604
Sure thing, mister.
1065
00:52:28,688 --> 00:52:29,981
Thank you.
1066
00:52:30,064 --> 00:52:31,858
- Gary: Jim.
- Thank you, Gary.
1067
00:52:32,442 --> 00:52:33,526
- Tam?
- Mm?
1068
00:52:39,115 --> 00:52:41,117
Tammy: Ta-da! I made it!
1069
00:52:42,076 --> 00:52:43,536
Man: 30 seconds, everyone!
1070
00:52:44,579 --> 00:52:45,913
Woman: Light on one, please!
1071
00:52:49,375 --> 00:52:51,836
Hmm. How's that?
1072
00:52:51,919 --> 00:52:52,962
Man 2: Yeah.
1073
00:52:56,424 --> 00:52:59,802
Man 3: And we're live in five, four,
1074
00:52:59,886 --> 00:53:02,013
three, two...
1075
00:53:06,809 --> 00:53:11,147
Tammy and I are undergoing
the most vicious attacks
1076
00:53:11,230 --> 00:53:13,524
in the history of this ministry.
1077
00:53:14,817 --> 00:53:18,905
By now, perhaps you think
that we should be used to these attacks.
1078
00:53:19,864 --> 00:53:22,241
But it's been going on
for a long time, Tammy.
1079
00:53:22,325 --> 00:53:23,576
Oh, yeah, that's right, Jim.
1080
00:53:23,659 --> 00:53:25,661
It's been going on a long time.
1081
00:53:26,537 --> 00:53:29,540
We are being persecuted
by the secular press
1082
00:53:29,624 --> 00:53:34,087
who simply do not want you
to receive the word of god.
1083
00:53:34,879 --> 00:53:36,547
Jim: It is a witch hunt.
1084
00:53:36,631 --> 00:53:40,259
And on top of this,
we have numerous past due bills...
1085
00:53:40,343 --> 00:53:41,677
That must be paid
1086
00:53:41,761 --> 00:53:44,222
if we want to save the entire network
1087
00:53:44,305 --> 00:53:47,266
and stay on the air
delivering the word of god every day.
1088
00:53:47,350 --> 00:53:50,478
So, now is the time
for our prayer warriors
1089
00:53:50,561 --> 00:53:53,314
to rise up because we are in a war.
1090
00:53:54,232 --> 00:53:58,403
You know, Tammy and I,
we just hate to do this,
1091
00:54:00,405 --> 00:54:02,490
but if e very person watching
1092
00:54:02,573 --> 00:54:05,910
could double their pledge right now,
1093
00:54:06,786 --> 00:54:10,206
that way,
we can save the word of god.
1094
00:54:10,289 --> 00:54:12,291
I'm talking about salvation.
1095
00:54:12,375 --> 00:54:17,255
Yours, mine, ptl's, the entire world's.
1096
00:54:17,338 --> 00:54:20,675
So, together, if we agree together,
1097
00:54:20,758 --> 00:54:23,553
let's give the devil a black eye.
1098
00:54:24,929 --> 00:54:27,348
Oh, the phones are ringing. Oh.
1099
00:54:27,432 --> 00:54:30,601
Praise Jesus and praise you!
1100
00:54:30,685 --> 00:54:33,479
And god bless you!
God bless you!
1101
00:54:33,563 --> 00:54:34,856
Tammy: Hallelujah!
1102
00:54:34,939 --> 00:54:38,401
And don't forget, remember,
god loves you.
1103
00:54:38,943 --> 00:54:42,280
- He really, really does.
- He really does.
1104
00:54:45,825 --> 00:54:47,010
Man: Cut! Very good, everyone.
1105
00:54:47,034 --> 00:54:48,619
That was not bad. How was that?
1106
00:54:48,703 --> 00:54:51,330
- How was it?
- Uh, that was good, Jim.
1107
00:54:51,414 --> 00:54:53,624
- We need to talk. Now.
- Jim, it was great.
1108
00:54:53,708 --> 00:54:56,169
Fletcher: We're still gonna
be over budget on that...
1109
00:54:59,505 --> 00:55:02,508
Tammy: I just want the sleeves
a little shorter.
1110
00:55:02,592 --> 00:55:04,427
Everything's about proportion.
1111
00:55:06,137 --> 00:55:08,681
Okay, you ready to see?
Close your eyes.
1112
00:55:10,766 --> 00:55:13,478
I love it, mother.
1113
00:55:13,561 --> 00:55:15,480
Oh, sissy, you look so beautiful, baby.
1114
00:55:15,563 --> 00:55:16,939
Thank you.
1115
00:55:17,023 --> 00:55:19,025
Rachel: Golly Moses,
this thing weighs a ton.
1116
00:55:19,775 --> 00:55:20,776
Oh, goodness.
1117
00:55:20,860 --> 00:55:22,904
Rachel: Why do you have to do
so much shopping, tam?
1118
00:55:22,987 --> 00:55:25,239
Well, I have to get my exercise somehow.
1119
00:55:25,323 --> 00:55:28,743
And, plus, I don't wanna balloon up
with the new baby coming.
1120
00:55:28,826 --> 00:55:31,370
Hey, everyone,
come here, come here.
1121
00:55:31,454 --> 00:55:32,497
Now, when she comes out,
1122
00:55:32,580 --> 00:55:35,500
make sure you all tell her
how great she looks, okay?
1123
00:55:35,583 --> 00:55:37,394
You know, she hasn't had
enough love in her life,
1124
00:55:37,418 --> 00:55:40,338
and it's time that we all change that.
1125
00:55:41,547 --> 00:55:42,632
Go on.
1126
00:55:48,095 --> 00:55:49,764
Good grief.
1127
00:55:49,847 --> 00:55:54,310
You look so good! Come here.
You do.
1128
00:55:54,393 --> 00:55:55,645
Right?
1129
00:55:55,728 --> 00:55:56,896
Okay, get up on the pedestal.
1130
00:55:56,979 --> 00:55:58,207
I am not getting up on the pedestal.
1131
00:55:58,231 --> 00:55:59,398
- Come on, grandma.
- Come on.
1132
00:55:59,482 --> 00:56:00,816
- Come on.
- Don't push me.
1133
00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:02,276
Oh!
1134
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,612
Isn't it fun?
We look like triplets.
1135
00:56:04,695 --> 00:56:06,781
I look like a bear.
1136
00:56:06,864 --> 00:56:08,407
You look like a beautiful bear.
1137
00:56:08,908 --> 00:56:11,118
- Oh. It's too much.
- No.
1138
00:56:11,202 --> 00:56:12,828
Rachel: I already have a coat.
1139
00:56:13,329 --> 00:56:14,872
I don't need it.
1140
00:56:16,123 --> 00:56:19,043
Why are you so unwilling to accept
the love that god has for you?
1141
00:56:20,294 --> 00:56:21,879
Can you pay for this?
1142
00:56:21,963 --> 00:56:23,965
The pledges are rolling in, mom.
1143
00:56:24,048 --> 00:56:26,092
People really like the show
1144
00:56:26,175 --> 00:56:29,136
and they're very happy
to accept the love.
1145
00:56:31,889 --> 00:56:33,891
Take the coat, mom.
1146
00:56:33,975 --> 00:56:36,227
Just take the coat.
1147
00:56:36,310 --> 00:56:37,353
Rachel: Well...
1148
00:56:37,436 --> 00:56:39,564
Tammy: Please, for me.
1149
00:56:40,773 --> 00:56:45,653
Well, it is attractive,
and it's very, very warm.
1150
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,631
Jim: I just feel like a million dollars.
1151
00:56:47,655 --> 00:56:49,335
Wanda: It looks great, Jim.
Jim: You think?
1152
00:56:49,407 --> 00:56:50,783
Yeah, very subtle.
1153
00:56:50,866 --> 00:56:52,660
I didn't feel a thing. Not a thing.
1154
00:56:52,743 --> 00:56:54,537
And I played golf the next day.
1155
00:56:54,620 --> 00:56:55,806
So, we'll have a girl's night.
1156
00:56:55,830 --> 00:56:56,974
We'll go to maciano's, get some pasta.
1157
00:56:56,998 --> 00:56:57,999
Sissy: Yes, yes.
1158
00:56:58,082 --> 00:56:59,750
- I love that place.
- Yeah? Oh, wait.
1159
00:56:59,834 --> 00:57:02,461
You know, why don't you go ahead,
I'm gonna catch up.
1160
00:57:02,545 --> 00:57:04,589
- I'm gonna go give Jim a kiss.
- Okay.
1161
00:57:04,672 --> 00:57:05,673
See ya.
1162
00:57:06,841 --> 00:57:08,926
And that reporter from
the Charlotte observer
1163
00:57:09,010 --> 00:57:10,595
been poking around.
1164
00:57:10,678 --> 00:57:13,389
Calling some of our secretaries,
asking for comments.
1165
00:57:13,472 --> 00:57:15,117
I'm gonna put a picture
of that guy's butt...
1166
00:57:15,141 --> 00:57:17,977
On a punching bag
1167
00:57:18,060 --> 00:57:20,354
and I'm gonna use it for practice.
1168
00:57:21,689 --> 00:57:23,292
Fletcher: We need to talk
about the deficit
1169
00:57:23,316 --> 00:57:25,036
we are running
on the expansion to studio...
1170
00:57:25,067 --> 00:57:28,195
Jim: Phooey! Fletcher, no,
you're such a worrywart.
1171
00:57:28,279 --> 00:57:30,323
We're gonna do a telethon next week.
1172
00:57:30,406 --> 00:57:32,450
The partners will not let us down.
1173
00:57:32,533 --> 00:57:33,951
Wanda, my nose is shiny.
1174
00:57:34,035 --> 00:57:35,262
- Wan da: Mm-mm.
- Jim: Yes, it is.
1175
00:57:35,286 --> 00:57:36,638
- Wan da: No.
- I'm telling you, Wanda.
1176
00:57:36,662 --> 00:57:38,414
- It's fine.
- A little more powder, please.
1177
00:57:38,497 --> 00:57:39,933
Fletcher:
Your nose isn't shiny, Jim.
1178
00:57:39,957 --> 00:57:41,167
You're just being fussy.
1179
00:57:41,250 --> 00:57:42,644
- Oh.
- Fletcher: Wanda, tell him he's fussy.
1180
00:57:42,668 --> 00:57:44,295
You're fussy, pastor Jim.
1181
00:57:44,378 --> 00:57:45,421
Jim: Oh, how dare you.
1182
00:57:45,504 --> 00:57:47,715
You're wearing as much
as Tammy these days.
1183
00:57:48,883 --> 00:57:50,603
Careful, you'll end up
looking like a clown.
1184
00:57:52,470 --> 00:57:54,764
- Stop it! You can't talk...
- But you know it's true.
1185
00:57:54,847 --> 00:57:56,158
- You know it's true.
- Jim: Fletcher.
1186
00:57:56,182 --> 00:57:57,683
You got Wanda laughing.
1187
00:57:57,767 --> 00:57:59,661
Fletcher: She's not laughing.
What are you laughing at?
1188
00:57:59,685 --> 00:58:00,912
It's not funny.
1189
00:58:00,936 --> 00:58:02,730
It's not funny.
1190
00:58:02,813 --> 00:58:04,315
Jim: You guys!
1191
00:58:04,398 --> 00:58:06,525
Oh, I got a new one.
1192
00:58:06,609 --> 00:58:08,527
Penny, cover your ears.
1193
00:58:08,611 --> 00:58:10,488
What did the leper say
to the prostitute?
1194
00:58:10,571 --> 00:58:12,073
- Oh, boy.
- What?
1195
00:58:12,156 --> 00:58:13,658
"You can keep the tip."
1196
00:58:13,741 --> 00:58:14,825
Oh, shit.
1197
00:58:16,786 --> 00:58:19,538
Jim, you mean jerk!
You're gonna pay for that.
1198
00:58:19,622 --> 00:58:21,462
Jim: I went too far.
I went too far. I'm sorry.
1199
00:58:22,875 --> 00:58:24,915
- I got you now. I got you now.
- Jim: Wanda! Wanda!
1200
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,170
Fletcher: Wanda, come here.
1201
00:58:26,253 --> 00:58:27,397
Come here and powder his nose.
1202
00:58:27,421 --> 00:58:28,940
- Jim: No! No!
- Fletcher: "Wanda, help.
1203
00:58:28,964 --> 00:58:30,675
"Wanda. Wanda.
1204
00:58:31,425 --> 00:58:33,594
"My nose is shiny."
1205
00:58:34,345 --> 00:58:37,556
Let me powder your nose.
Let me powder your nose.
1206
00:58:53,322 --> 00:58:56,450
Somebody touched me
1207
00:58:56,534 --> 00:58:58,452
hallelujah
1208
00:58:58,536 --> 00:59:02,373
somebody touched me
1209
00:59:02,456 --> 00:59:07,002
oh, / was blind
but praise his name
1210
00:59:07,086 --> 00:59:09,338
I now can see
1211
00:59:11,424 --> 00:59:15,302
I was in darkness
1212
00:59:15,386 --> 00:59:19,890
when Jesus found me
1213
00:59:19,974 --> 00:59:24,103
but since he touched me
1214
00:59:25,771 --> 00:59:32,153
I now am free
1215
00:59:32,737 --> 00:59:33,779
Wow.
1216
00:59:33,863 --> 00:59:36,031
That was beautiful.
That was lovely, tam.
1217
00:59:36,115 --> 00:59:37,408
Gary.
1218
00:59:38,909 --> 00:59:40,369
Aren't you glad he touched you?
1219
00:59:40,453 --> 00:59:42,246
Truly. Yeah.
1220
00:59:44,498 --> 00:59:46,041
Hmm.
1221
00:59:46,125 --> 00:59:48,127
Well, this is perfect. I love this.
1222
00:59:48,210 --> 00:59:50,337
Well, it's all you,
tam, it's all you.
1223
00:59:50,421 --> 00:59:54,759
Oh, no. No, no.
You know I couldn't do this without you.
1224
00:59:54,842 --> 00:59:58,345
You know, your voice
makes me feel closer to him.
1225
00:59:59,138 --> 01:00:01,098
Like he's right here.
1226
01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:04,101
He is.
1227
01:00:06,145 --> 01:00:07,646
Tam...
1228
01:00:09,273 --> 01:00:13,444
When was the last time
that you were touched
1229
01:00:14,987 --> 01:00:17,698
in the way that a woman
like you should be touched?
1230
01:00:18,866 --> 01:00:21,410
Oh, well...
1231
01:00:22,787 --> 01:00:24,055
I'm eight months pregnant, Gary,
1232
01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:25,581
so back it up from there.
1233
01:00:26,957 --> 01:00:30,586
Does his touch tell you
how talented you are?
1234
01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:34,965
Gary.
1235
01:00:35,049 --> 01:00:37,843
Do his eyes tell you
how beautiful you are?
1236
01:00:41,138 --> 01:00:43,682
Does he listen to you?
1237
01:00:43,766 --> 01:00:45,684
Does he hear how amazing you are?
1238
01:00:46,811 --> 01:00:48,103
Tammy.
1239
01:00:48,187 --> 01:00:49,480
Yes.
1240
01:00:50,064 --> 01:00:52,066
Can I touch you like that?
1241
01:00:52,983 --> 01:00:57,196
In that way that you should be touched.
1242
01:01:01,700 --> 01:01:03,911
- You can kiss me on my neck.
- Okay.
1243
01:01:03,994 --> 01:01:06,038
- Don't leave a Mark, okay?
- Yeah.
1244
01:01:19,218 --> 01:01:20,386
Come here.
1245
01:01:21,262 --> 01:01:23,222
I wanna hold you.
1246
01:01:28,769 --> 01:01:31,647
- Oh, no. Oh, no.
- What?
1247
01:01:31,730 --> 01:01:33,774
- Leave them on.
- All right.
1248
01:01:34,441 --> 01:01:35,669
Oh, you're so beautiful, Tammy.
1249
01:01:35,693 --> 01:01:37,194
Oh, you're so big.
1250
01:01:37,278 --> 01:01:38,779
Oh, yeah.
1251
01:01:39,738 --> 01:01:41,073
I like this.
1252
01:01:41,156 --> 01:01:42,324
Yeah.
1253
01:01:47,413 --> 01:01:49,039
What? What's wrong?
1254
01:01:49,582 --> 01:01:51,333
My water broke.
1255
01:01:54,795 --> 01:01:56,213
Tammy: Mm.
1256
01:01:56,881 --> 01:01:58,841
You're so beautiful.
1257
01:02:06,765 --> 01:02:08,434
He's so precious, Jim.
1258
01:02:18,068 --> 01:02:19,695
Gary: Congratulations, Jim.
1259
01:02:38,047 --> 01:02:41,091
I understand
that Gary drove you here?
1260
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,387
Gary: We called the studio, Jim,
but you were on the air.
1261
01:02:46,347 --> 01:02:49,475
Tammy was real upset
that you weren't here for it.
1262
01:02:49,558 --> 01:02:51,018
No...
1263
01:02:52,019 --> 01:02:56,941
I'm just wonderful, Jim.
I'm... I'm so wonderful.
1264
01:02:58,859 --> 01:03:02,696
We announced his birth on air.
We got a real surge in pledges.
1265
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,365
Praise the lord.
1266
01:03:04,448 --> 01:03:06,367
We're gonna get
that expansion in studio 3,
1267
01:03:06,450 --> 01:03:08,118
thanks to this little miracle.
1268
01:03:08,827 --> 01:03:10,579
Gary: Hmm. Congrats, Jim.
1269
01:03:11,163 --> 01:03:13,207
This is such a day of joy.
1270
01:03:16,043 --> 01:03:17,753
A day of celebration,
1271
01:03:17,836 --> 01:03:22,967
but I just can't help the feeling
that something else is going on here.
1272
01:03:24,301 --> 01:03:26,679
That something depraved
1273
01:03:27,888 --> 01:03:29,056
taints this day.
1274
01:03:31,517 --> 01:03:35,104
Gary: Depraved is a very big word, Jim.
1275
01:03:35,896 --> 01:03:37,982
But it's a fitting word,
isn't it, Tammy?
1276
01:03:42,903 --> 01:03:44,446
Yes, Jim.
1277
01:03:52,037 --> 01:03:55,582
Well, Fletcher's waiting outside
1278
01:03:56,417 --> 01:03:59,086
and he'll get this man back
to Nashville, where he belongs.
1279
01:03:59,169 --> 01:04:00,879
- Oh, no. Jim, please, no.
- Jim: Tammy.
1280
01:04:00,963 --> 01:04:02,881
- Tammy: Please.
- Jim: Tammy, I suggest
1281
01:04:02,965 --> 01:04:04,508
you don't talk right now.
1282
01:04:05,843 --> 01:04:07,177
Tammy.
1283
01:04:08,887 --> 01:04:11,557
Tammy, I hope you're not gonna
let him do this.
1284
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,350
Tammy?
1285
01:04:13,434 --> 01:04:16,729
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
1286
01:04:17,938 --> 01:04:19,273
Sorry.
1287
01:04:22,234 --> 01:04:23,986
I'm so sorry, Jim.
1288
01:04:28,407 --> 01:04:30,117
I'm so sorry.
1289
01:04:39,626 --> 01:04:41,312
Can you take the baby away from her,
please?
1290
01:04:41,336 --> 01:04:43,589
Nurse: Okay. Aii right.
1291
01:04:47,051 --> 01:04:49,428
Let me get you something to
help you sleep, okay, honey?
1292
01:05:16,830 --> 01:05:20,250
Jim: Yes.
That's exactly what I told you.
1293
01:05:20,834 --> 01:05:23,170
Formal living quarters
for some of the staff.
1294
01:05:23,253 --> 01:05:24,254
Man: Wow!
1295
01:05:24,338 --> 01:05:25,631
- Jim: Yes.
- So ornate.
1296
01:05:25,714 --> 01:05:27,758
Jim: Inspired by European architect.
1297
01:05:27,841 --> 01:05:29,927
And over here,
1298
01:05:30,010 --> 01:05:33,430
that's the first Christian water park.
1299
01:05:33,514 --> 01:05:35,015
"We are fishers of men."
1300
01:05:35,099 --> 01:05:37,142
That's the bait.
1301
01:05:37,226 --> 01:05:38,811
That's good.
1302
01:05:38,894 --> 01:05:40,246
Jim: I wanted to show you this, too.
1303
01:05:40,270 --> 01:05:42,356
See, over here... yes.
1304
01:05:42,439 --> 01:05:45,651
This is old Jerusalem.
1305
01:05:45,734 --> 01:05:47,778
And it's a stunning replica.
1306
01:05:48,570 --> 01:05:49,738
Oh, it looks beautiful, Jim.
1307
01:05:49,822 --> 01:05:51,281
- Yeah.
- So detailed.
1308
01:05:54,201 --> 01:05:57,162
You know what they say about details?
God is in 'em.
1309
01:05:57,246 --> 01:05:59,289
- Yes.
- That's right.
1310
01:05:59,998 --> 01:06:01,834
You know,
for as long as I can remember, roe,
1311
01:06:01,917 --> 01:06:05,754
I've dreamed of a vacation destination
for Christian families to come to.
1312
01:06:05,838 --> 01:06:08,507
A place where they can, um...
1313
01:06:08,590 --> 01:06:09,925
Hey, tam.
1314
01:06:10,008 --> 01:06:11,176
A place where they know
1315
01:06:11,260 --> 01:06:13,140
that their children are gonna be safe,
you know?
1316
01:06:13,220 --> 01:06:14,471
Roe: Sure.
1317
01:06:14,555 --> 01:06:16,075
We're selling partnerships to fund it.
1318
01:06:16,932 --> 01:06:18,225
And that way, the partners,
1319
01:06:18,308 --> 01:06:19,852
they feel the sense of ownership
1320
01:06:20,519 --> 01:06:24,731
and a pride in this Christian paradise
1321
01:06:25,315 --> 01:06:26,567
that they've built.
1322
01:06:27,109 --> 01:06:33,490
Uh... um, how many partnerships
do you have to sell in order to fund it?
1323
01:06:33,574 --> 01:06:34,867
Jim: Hmm. Well...
1324
01:06:39,121 --> 01:06:41,081
A lot.
1325
01:06:41,915 --> 01:06:43,000
Yes.
1326
01:06:43,083 --> 01:06:45,377
You know, because the partnerships
we've already sold,
1327
01:06:47,004 --> 01:06:50,048
they've had to go
to funding other projects.
1328
01:06:51,049 --> 01:06:52,843
- I see.
- Yes.
1329
01:06:53,427 --> 01:06:54,720
But I've been praying on it.
1330
01:06:55,470 --> 01:06:57,556
I've been hoping
that you could advance ptl
1331
01:06:57,639 --> 01:06:58,932
just a little bit of credit.
1332
01:07:00,517 --> 01:07:04,188
Just to get the bulldozers moving,
you know?
1333
01:07:07,649 --> 01:07:09,026
Hi, honey.
1334
01:07:10,861 --> 01:07:13,071
Uh, this is roe messner.
1335
01:07:13,155 --> 01:07:15,324
He's the developer of heritage usa.
1336
01:07:15,407 --> 01:07:16,700
Well, I'm not the developer yet.
1337
01:07:16,783 --> 01:07:18,160
Jim: Yeah.
1338
01:07:24,374 --> 01:07:28,712
The doctors have had
her on so many loopy things
1339
01:07:29,213 --> 01:07:31,882
since Jamie Charles was born.
1340
01:07:31,965 --> 01:07:35,177
Pills to make her normal.
Pills to make her sleep.
1341
01:07:35,260 --> 01:07:36,803
Um, as long as she's feelin' better.
1342
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,724
Yes. Amen.
1343
01:07:42,226 --> 01:07:45,395
I love what you're trying to do here,
Jim.
1344
01:07:45,479 --> 01:07:46,772
- Jim: Mm.
- Roe: I do.
1345
01:07:46,855 --> 01:07:49,107
I spent some summers with my wife
1346
01:07:49,191 --> 01:07:50,484
at knott's Berry farm.
1347
01:07:51,652 --> 01:07:54,404
Every year the jellies
got less and less fresh.
1348
01:07:54,488 --> 01:07:56,907
- Jim: Mm.
- And I'm convinced
1349
01:07:56,990 --> 01:08:00,160
it's 'cause they started
hiring the wrong kinds of people
1350
01:08:00,244 --> 01:08:01,245
to make the preserves.
1351
01:08:02,913 --> 01:08:04,706
I knew you were my man, roe.
1352
01:08:04,790 --> 01:08:06,917
Roe: But, uh...
1353
01:08:08,418 --> 01:08:09,711
I'm not a gambler, Mr. Bakker.
1354
01:08:10,671 --> 01:08:13,757
- Oh, well...
- Oh, this isn't gambling, roe.
1355
01:08:14,466 --> 01:08:16,343
Oh, no, it's faith.
1356
01:08:17,135 --> 01:08:19,763
I have seen him perform miracles.
1357
01:08:20,514 --> 01:08:21,723
Roe: Huh.
1358
01:08:21,807 --> 01:08:24,893
I haven't had anyone
claim to be a faith healer to my face
1359
01:08:24,977 --> 01:08:28,897
since I was about six years old.
1360
01:08:28,981 --> 01:08:32,109
Well, buildings are miracles.
1361
01:08:32,192 --> 01:08:33,443
Aren't they, roe?
1362
01:08:33,527 --> 01:08:36,863
Well, it's amazing anything
ever gets built, that's for sure.
1363
01:08:37,698 --> 01:08:39,116
Yeah.
1364
01:08:39,199 --> 01:08:41,034
This is beautiful.
1365
01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:44,746
We must take a leap of faith for god.
1366
01:08:44,830 --> 01:08:48,333
Especially when the devil
is makin' us doubt.
1367
01:08:49,042 --> 01:08:51,670
God's on our side, roe.
1368
01:08:52,462 --> 01:08:54,423
Every time we fall,
1369
01:08:55,299 --> 01:08:57,759
god proves his love again
1370
01:08:58,677 --> 01:09:01,054
and we come back.
1371
01:09:01,138 --> 01:09:07,019
We come back bigger,
and stronger, and better.
1372
01:09:12,357 --> 01:09:18,071
"All things work for good
to them that love god,
1373
01:09:18,989 --> 01:09:25,620
"to them who are called
according to his purpose."
1374
01:09:33,670 --> 01:09:36,214
And I called you, roe.
1375
01:09:49,686 --> 01:09:51,730
You're welcome.
1376
01:09:55,359 --> 01:09:57,319
You're owed a "thank you"?
1377
01:09:58,820 --> 01:10:01,782
He was nowhere near saying yes
until I sat down.
1378
01:10:01,865 --> 01:10:04,868
Oh, yes, to flirt with him.
1379
01:10:10,123 --> 01:10:12,042
Are you gonna divorce me, Jim?
1380
01:10:13,126 --> 01:10:14,127
I don't know.
1381
01:10:16,463 --> 01:10:17,464
I should.
1382
01:10:20,967 --> 01:10:23,178
But god hates divorce.
1383
01:10:23,261 --> 01:10:25,806
It ruined your mother.
1384
01:10:26,556 --> 01:10:28,100
It'll do the same to you.
1385
01:10:28,183 --> 01:10:30,268
You stopped paying attention to me, Jim.
1386
01:10:30,352 --> 01:10:33,146
You broke faith with me, Tammy!
1387
01:10:33,230 --> 01:10:38,151
Gary, he told me that I was beautiful
and that I was talented.
1388
01:10:38,235 --> 01:10:39,670
And he wanted me, Jim.
1389
01:10:39,694 --> 01:10:40,854
Jim: Don't touch me!
1390
01:10:40,904 --> 01:10:44,533
Gary wanted me, Jim,
in ways that you don't.
1391
01:10:44,616 --> 01:10:46,034
Jim: Oh, my goodness.
1392
01:10:46,118 --> 01:10:48,203
He was my friend.
1393
01:10:48,286 --> 01:10:51,039
You know,
I got a letter this week, Tammy.
1394
01:10:51,123 --> 01:10:52,541
From the president.
1395
01:10:53,333 --> 01:10:55,502
The president of the United States,
1396
01:10:55,585 --> 01:10:58,130
Ronald Reagan himself,
wrote me a personal letter
1397
01:10:58,213 --> 01:11:02,676
thanking me for my support
in his election!
1398
01:11:03,301 --> 01:11:06,012
I'm an important man, Tammy Faye!
1399
01:11:06,096 --> 01:11:09,641
And people don't treat important men
the way that you treated me.
1400
01:11:11,935 --> 01:11:14,146
I'm gonna clear my head, I'm gonna pray.
1401
01:11:15,605 --> 01:11:17,149
I'm gonna think about what I want.
1402
01:11:23,238 --> 01:11:24,739
Jim?
1403
01:11:47,471 --> 01:11:51,183
Tammy:
Oh, god. How can / fix this?
1404
01:11:54,436 --> 01:11:55,979
God?
1405
01:11:58,315 --> 01:11:59,566
Where'd you go?
1406
01:12:00,775 --> 01:12:02,194
Where are you?
1407
01:12:03,653 --> 01:12:05,530
I/I/h y can't / feel you?
1408
01:12:08,408 --> 01:12:09,784
Where are you?
1409
01:12:11,786 --> 01:12:14,414
Oh...
1410
01:12:17,459 --> 01:12:18,877
Where are you?
1411
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,213
Tammy? Tammy, it's all right.
1412
01:12:21,296 --> 01:12:24,341
- Jim.
- I'm here. I'm here.
1413
01:12:24,424 --> 01:12:27,093
It's all right. Shh. It's all right.
1414
01:12:34,184 --> 01:12:36,102
Tammy, I, um...
1415
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,732
I prayed on it. And, um...
1416
01:12:41,816 --> 01:12:42,817
What?
1417
01:12:43,527 --> 01:12:46,363
You know,
maybe I've been a better builder
1418
01:12:46,446 --> 01:12:47,864
than I've been a husband.
1419
01:12:51,076 --> 01:12:52,494
- Yeah.
- Yes.
1420
01:12:52,577 --> 01:12:55,372
But I know for certain
1421
01:12:56,164 --> 01:12:59,251
That you are
the only woman on earth
1422
01:13:00,252 --> 01:13:02,087
who understands me.
1423
01:13:02,754 --> 01:13:05,465
Oh, honey.
1424
01:13:06,049 --> 01:13:07,968
It makes me so happy
that you're saying that.
1425
01:13:08,552 --> 01:13:11,555
- Tammy.
- Baby.
1426
01:13:11,638 --> 01:13:14,182
I'm sorry.
1427
01:13:15,183 --> 01:13:19,396
Oh...
1428
01:13:20,188 --> 01:13:22,440
You really hurt me.
1429
01:13:22,524 --> 01:13:24,734
I know, Jim.
1430
01:13:25,652 --> 01:13:28,113
And I think you have to apologize.
1431
01:13:28,196 --> 01:13:31,783
I'm sorry. Oh, I am so sorry, Jim.
1432
01:13:31,866 --> 01:13:33,201
To the partners.
1433
01:13:39,374 --> 01:13:40,375
Today.
1434
01:13:46,381 --> 01:13:51,094
I learned the best
lesson in my whole life
1435
01:13:51,177 --> 01:13:54,723
because of something terrible that I did
1436
01:13:54,806 --> 01:13:56,224
that / cannot take back.
1437
01:13:57,976 --> 01:14:00,478
I learned how much / love my husband,
1438
01:14:00,562 --> 01:14:03,064
how much I care for my husband.
1439
01:14:04,649 --> 01:14:06,443
And I learned a lesson of loneliness
1440
01:14:06,526 --> 01:14:10,280
such as lne ver experienced
in my whole life.
1441
01:14:12,741 --> 01:14:15,410
All of a sudden, I realized
1442
01:14:15,493 --> 01:14:18,830
that there was a lot more to marriage
1443
01:14:18,913 --> 01:14:20,832
than just the sparkles.
1444
01:14:22,876 --> 01:14:24,794
Woman: We're with you, Tammy!
1445
01:14:25,837 --> 01:14:27,255
- Woman 2: Ptl.
- Man: Ptl.
1446
01:14:27,839 --> 01:14:30,425
- How can I help you?
- Woman 3: Ah. Bless you.
1447
01:14:36,264 --> 01:14:39,225
Jim: Because of our satellite,
from this moment on,
1448
01:14:39,309 --> 01:14:44,564
the ptl television network
plans to broadcast 24 hours a day
1449
01:14:44,648 --> 01:14:47,651
till the second coming of Christ.
1450
01:14:47,734 --> 01:14:50,737
Jesus keeps on
takin ' me h/gher and h/gher
1451
01:14:50,820 --> 01:14:54,491
s I n g e rs: H/gher and h/gher
h/gher and h/gher
1452
01:14:54,574 --> 01:14:58,495
Jesus keeps on takin'me
h/gher and h/gher
1453
01:14:58,578 --> 01:15:01,790
s I n g e rs: H/gher and h/gher
h/gher and h/gher
1454
01:15:02,499 --> 01:15:03,619
hi, everybody!
1455
01:15:04,292 --> 01:15:07,087
God has a fixed law of giving.
1456
01:15:07,170 --> 01:15:08,505
He gives me a shove yeah
1457
01:15:08,588 --> 01:15:09,631
Jim: If you're not giving,
1458
01:15:09,714 --> 01:15:14,094
you cannot expect to have
abundanc y coming back to you.
1459
01:15:14,177 --> 01:15:15,929
/f you aren't giving,
1460
01:15:16,012 --> 01:15:17,764
you're gonna have a harvest of misery/
1461
01:15:17,847 --> 01:15:19,283
You're gonna have
1462
01:15:19,307 --> 01:15:20,517
-a harvest of pain/ -ptl.
1463
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,395
You're gonna have a harvest of sickness!
1464
01:15:23,478 --> 01:15:24,688
If you can't go to Jerusalem,
1465
01:15:24,771 --> 01:15:27,211
you could come to heritage
and you could go to the upper room.
1466
01:15:27,273 --> 01:15:29,818
Exactly what you could see in Jerusalem.
1467
01:15:29,901 --> 01:15:31,695
Except you don't have to get on a plane.
1468
01:15:31,778 --> 01:15:33,238
You know, if everyone watching
1469
01:15:33,321 --> 01:15:35,740
could double their pledge
just for one month...
1470
01:15:35,824 --> 01:15:39,494
If you haven't sent your pledge
for $15 a month,
1471
01:15:39,577 --> 01:15:42,664
do it now and I want to send you
susie moppet puppets.
1472
01:15:42,747 --> 01:15:46,251
God becomes your source when you give
1473
01:15:46,334 --> 01:15:49,045
and you sow in his kingdom.
1474
01:15:49,129 --> 01:15:51,047
It works.
1475
01:15:51,131 --> 01:15:53,508
Singers: Higher, higher, higher
1476
01:15:53,591 --> 01:15:54,884
I/I/hoo
1477
01:15:55,593 --> 01:15:57,178
wow
1478
01:15:57,262 --> 01:15:58,555
whoo
1479
01:15:58,638 --> 01:16:02,434
the ptl TV network is
carrying out a master plan...
1480
01:16:02,517 --> 01:16:04,037
Opening centers all across the country
1481
01:16:04,102 --> 01:16:07,147
to provide fooo', clothing, furniture,
and job bank centers.
1482
01:16:07,230 --> 01:16:10,400
Tammy: Jesus keeps on
leadin ' me higher and higher
1483
01:16:14,821 --> 01:16:17,824
singers: Higher, higher
higher, higher
1484
01:16:17,907 --> 01:16:19,534
hi, everybody.
1485
01:16:19,617 --> 01:16:22,787
Singers: Higher, higher
higher, higher
1486
01:16:22,871 --> 01:16:25,582
higher, higher whoo
1487
01:16:25,665 --> 01:16:28,710
higher, higher, higher whoo
1488
01:16:28,793 --> 01:16:31,296
Jesus keeps on
leadin ' me higher and higher
1489
01:16:31,379 --> 01:16:32,922
Jim: I've seen the rich
1490
01:16:33,006 --> 01:16:34,382
and I've seen people with little
1491
01:16:34,466 --> 01:16:37,010
who are more blessed
1492
01:16:37,093 --> 01:16:39,471
than the millionaires that I've known
who are worried sick
1493
01:16:39,554 --> 01:16:41,723
'cause the stock market
doesn't know what it's doing!
1494
01:16:41,806 --> 01:16:43,183
It's going up, it's going down!
1495
01:16:43,266 --> 01:16:46,603
But people who have sown seed
in the word of god,
1496
01:16:46,686 --> 01:16:48,062
their stock is always up/
1497
01:16:48,146 --> 01:16:51,357
higher and higher
1498
01:16:57,405 --> 01:16:58,948
Jim: That's why we chose this plot.
1499
01:16:59,032 --> 01:17:00,533
And with the help of your investment,
1500
01:17:00,617 --> 01:17:03,244
we could build a shopping complex
around the hotel
1501
01:17:03,328 --> 01:17:05,038
and then we 're going to have a trolley.
1502
01:17:05,121 --> 01:17:06,164
Jerry: /I//m.
1503
01:17:06,247 --> 01:17:08,666
It's gonna wrap around the whole place,
1504
01:17:08,750 --> 01:17:12,337
making stops at everywhere there
at heritage island, the heritage grand,
1505
01:17:12,420 --> 01:17:17,759
and then here
at what is going to be our coliseum.
1506
01:17:17,842 --> 01:17:18,962
We're gonna have a coliseum.
1507
01:17:19,010 --> 01:17:20,404
- Jerry: Coliseum.
- Yes.
1508
01:17:20,428 --> 01:17:23,515
You planning on sacrificing christians?
1509
01:17:24,516 --> 01:17:27,185
Oh, no. No.
1510
01:17:27,268 --> 01:17:31,022
Oh, Jerry, no.
We rise again in our coliseum.
1511
01:17:31,105 --> 01:17:33,775
This is, uh, gonna be
Christian rock concerts.
1512
01:17:33,858 --> 01:17:35,527
Something for the kids.
1513
01:17:35,610 --> 01:17:39,405
I really wish you wouldn't
encourage these blasphemers.
1514
01:17:42,659 --> 01:17:44,994
- Isn't it beautiful?
- It really is. Mm-hmm.
1515
01:17:46,162 --> 01:17:48,498
Jim: The trees, the oxygen is...
1516
01:17:48,581 --> 01:17:50,583
Are you cold?
1517
01:17:50,667 --> 01:17:52,669
Are you...
1518
01:17:52,752 --> 01:17:55,213
Stupid question.
Of course you're not cold.
1519
01:17:55,296 --> 01:17:57,131
- Sorry.
- Oh, I'm super.
1520
01:18:03,972 --> 01:18:05,157
Jim: So, what do you think, reverend?
1521
01:18:05,181 --> 01:18:08,059
We would be tickled pink
to ha ve your support.
1522
01:18:08,142 --> 01:18:09,519
- Jerry: Jim?
- Yes?
1523
01:18:09,602 --> 01:18:11,604
Jerry: The coalition
that we delivered to Reagan,
1524
01:18:11,688 --> 01:18:13,731
vice president bush...
1525
01:18:13,815 --> 01:18:16,776
Well, he's counting on us
doing the same thing for him in '88.
1526
01:18:19,821 --> 01:18:22,031
You know that pat called me
1527
01:18:22,115 --> 01:18:26,327
and he told me that he's thinking
about making a bid for president.
1528
01:18:26,411 --> 01:18:28,538
Pat robertson's a good man.
1529
01:18:28,621 --> 01:18:31,708
But if he runs,
he'll peel away vital republican votes.
1530
01:18:32,500 --> 01:18:34,085
We're in a fight here, Jim.
1531
01:18:34,794 --> 01:18:38,965
This gay cancer
is affecting our country, our families.
1532
01:18:39,048 --> 01:18:41,509
Republicans can't win without us.
1533
01:18:43,052 --> 01:18:45,179
You need to understand
how powerful we are
1534
01:18:45,263 --> 01:18:47,765
in this fight for our nation's soul.
1535
01:18:47,849 --> 01:18:49,517
Jim: Mm.
1536
01:18:49,601 --> 01:18:52,353
We should just stay out of it
and keep politics out of the church.
1537
01:18:52,437 --> 01:18:54,606
Too much on the line.
1538
01:18:55,773 --> 01:19:00,904
Democrats are already trying to strip
away our churches' tax exempt status.
1539
01:19:02,864 --> 01:19:06,784
Oh, this time, we'll keep
the Evangelicals in the tent.
1540
01:19:08,703 --> 01:19:10,204
When's lunch?
1541
01:19:10,288 --> 01:19:11,390
Tammy: Well, hello, everyone,
1542
01:19:11,414 --> 01:19:13,291
it's just so nice
to have you here with us.
1543
01:19:13,374 --> 01:19:17,420
We have an experience today
that really is touching to me.
1544
01:19:17,503 --> 01:19:20,006
Right here on my right,
I have a young man named Steve pieters,
1545
01:19:20,089 --> 01:19:22,091
and I'd like to introduce you to Steve.
1546
01:19:22,175 --> 01:19:24,844
Steve is a patient of aids
1547
01:19:24,928 --> 01:19:28,598
and he's so generously allowed us
to talk to him today.
1548
01:19:28,681 --> 01:19:31,392
He is presently taking chemotherapy
and is unable to travel.
1549
01:19:31,476 --> 01:19:35,772
So, we have a satellite hookup
live from la.
1550
01:19:35,855 --> 01:19:38,524
- Hello, steve/ - Hi; Tammy.
1551
01:19:38,608 --> 01:19:40,526
We 're so glad to see you.
1552
01:19:41,361 --> 01:19:43,321
I'm so happy / could be here.
1553
01:19:43,404 --> 01:19:45,531
Okay, Steve.
At what time in your life
1554
01:19:45,615 --> 01:19:48,117
did you feel like you were different?
1555
01:19:48,201 --> 01:19:51,412
Did you feel like maybe you weren't
like some of the other guys?
1556
01:19:51,496 --> 01:19:55,458
Irea/izedl was gay
when / was about 77 or 72.
1557
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,629
Ita/ked with a pastor in the church
where / grew up
1558
01:19:59,712 --> 01:20:01,714
and, um, he was freaked out.
1559
01:20:02,882 --> 01:20:06,761
He told me, ”don't tell anybody. ”
1560
01:20:06,844 --> 01:20:10,264
Ne ver tell anybody anything about it
1561
01:20:10,348 --> 01:20:11,349
and it will go away,
1562
01:20:12,517 --> 01:20:15,103
but it didn't go away.
1563
01:20:15,186 --> 01:20:16,288
Okay, / ha ve another question.
1564
01:20:16,312 --> 01:20:17,915
Jerry: So, the satellite
is directly above us?
1565
01:20:17,939 --> 01:20:19,941
Jim: Yes, it orbits us.
1566
01:20:20,024 --> 01:20:23,778
That's how we're able to reach
so many folks just simultaneously.
1567
01:20:23,861 --> 01:20:25,655
Let me ask you, Jerry,
what's your viewership
1568
01:20:25,738 --> 01:20:27,323
over at Liberty broadcasting?
1569
01:20:27,407 --> 01:20:31,536
Oh, well, I'm proud to say that we reach
three million viewers a day.
1570
01:20:31,619 --> 01:20:35,498
My goodness. Praise god.
That's just wonderful.
1571
01:20:37,041 --> 01:20:38,292
And you?
1572
01:20:38,376 --> 01:20:41,671
Well, we here at ptl,
we reach 20 million viewers a day
1573
01:20:42,463 --> 01:20:46,384
in 56 countries
just because of that miracle
1574
01:20:46,467 --> 01:20:48,404
up there in the sky.
1575
01:20:48,428 --> 01:20:50,138
Oh, let's see who Tammy's talking to.
1576
01:20:50,221 --> 01:20:51,824
Tammy: And, Steve,
because of this feeling,
1577
01:20:51,848 --> 01:20:53,033
did you try to make friends with girls?
1578
01:20:53,057 --> 01:20:55,560
And did you try to be
around girls and everything
1579
01:20:55,643 --> 01:20:56,870
so no one would think anything?
1580
01:20:56,894 --> 01:20:59,063
Oh, sure, ldated girls.
1581
01:20:59,147 --> 01:21:02,233
I tried to 'program” myself
to be straight
1582
01:21:03,026 --> 01:21:04,819
and it never worked
1583
01:21:04,902 --> 01:21:06,279
Tammy: So, what made you feel...
1584
01:21:06,362 --> 01:21:07,613
And what's this, Jim?
1585
01:21:07,697 --> 01:21:09,675
Tammy: Like there was
no way for you to be straight?
1586
01:21:09,699 --> 01:21:11,034
I don't know.
1587
01:21:11,117 --> 01:21:13,369
- This is not...
- /t was from meeting
1588
01:21:13,453 --> 01:21:17,165
other gay people who were happy
with the way they were
1589
01:21:17,248 --> 01:21:20,001
that made me realize
I could be happy with the way I am.
1590
01:21:20,084 --> 01:21:22,462
Now, I find this problematic.
1591
01:21:22,545 --> 01:21:24,088
Yes. Well, you know Tammy,
1592
01:21:24,172 --> 01:21:26,382
she...
She connects in her own way and...
1593
01:21:26,466 --> 01:21:28,843
Okay, Steve. What did you feel
1594
01:21:28,926 --> 01:21:32,597
when you first heard the word a/ds?
1595
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,515
Was it justa word to you, Steve?
1596
01:21:34,599 --> 01:21:38,311
Well, yes. Why would it hurt me?
I was a good Christian pastor.
1597
01:21:38,394 --> 01:21:40,521
I... I can't look at this.
1598
01:21:40,605 --> 01:21:41,981
Jim: No.
1599
01:21:42,065 --> 01:21:43,900
She must have programmed it
last minute or...
1600
01:21:43,983 --> 01:21:45,294
You need to get her under control.
1601
01:21:45,318 --> 01:21:47,028
No, no. Let me help.
1602
01:21:47,737 --> 01:21:50,782
Believe you me,
I will be having words with her.
1603
01:21:50,865 --> 01:21:52,200
- She's been acting very...
- Jim.
1604
01:21:52,283 --> 01:21:53,284
Yes?
1605
01:21:53,367 --> 01:21:55,369
We have our differences.
1606
01:21:55,912 --> 01:21:58,372
People forget sometimes
a pastor needs a pastor.
1607
01:21:58,456 --> 01:22:00,208
Steve:
As Jesus says in Mark 5...
1608
01:22:01,167 --> 01:22:02,502
Reach out.
1609
01:22:02,585 --> 01:22:03,961
Yes.
1610
01:22:05,463 --> 01:22:07,183
What happened
when you told your mom and dad
1611
01:22:07,256 --> 01:22:08,400
that you were feeling this way?
1612
01:22:08,424 --> 01:22:11,260
- Well, my mother cried -uh-huh.
1613
01:22:11,344 --> 01:22:14,013
And my father held my hand
1614
01:22:14,097 --> 01:22:16,808
and told me that I was his son,
no matter what.
1615
01:22:17,892 --> 01:22:19,393
Ah, thank god.
1616
01:22:19,477 --> 01:22:23,147
You know,
thank god for a mom and dad
1617
01:22:23,231 --> 01:22:25,233
who will stand with a young person.
1618
01:22:25,316 --> 01:22:26,776
I think that's so important
1619
01:22:26,859 --> 01:22:29,570
because no matter what happens
to a young person in their lives,
1620
01:22:29,654 --> 01:22:32,448
they're still your boy,
they're still your girl
1621
01:22:32,532 --> 01:22:34,009
no matter what happens in their life.
1622
01:22:34,033 --> 01:22:35,368
And I think it's very important
1623
01:22:35,451 --> 01:22:38,955
that we as mom and dads
love through anything.
1624
01:22:39,038 --> 01:22:41,040
And that's the way with Jesus, you know?
1625
01:22:41,124 --> 01:22:43,126
Jesus loves us through anything.
1626
01:22:43,209 --> 01:22:45,378
Jesus loves me just the way I am.
1627
01:22:45,461 --> 01:22:47,964
Jesus loves the way that / love.
1628
01:22:49,048 --> 01:22:51,050
And have you found it to be true
1629
01:22:51,134 --> 01:22:52,844
that people wanna stay away
1630
01:22:52,927 --> 01:22:55,888
and that they're afraid to be
in the same room as you
1631
01:22:55,972 --> 01:22:57,807
and breathe the same air
that you breathe?
1632
01:22:59,267 --> 01:23:00,268
Yes, Tammy.
1633
01:23:00,852 --> 01:23:03,312
And how sad is that?
1634
01:23:03,396 --> 01:23:05,356
That we as christians
1635
01:23:06,107 --> 01:23:09,152
who are supposed to love everyone
1636
01:23:09,902 --> 01:23:12,780
are afraid so badly of an aids patient
1637
01:23:13,656 --> 01:23:16,117
that we will not go up to them
1638
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,452
and put our arm around them
1639
01:23:18,536 --> 01:23:21,122
and tell them that we care?
1640
01:23:27,128 --> 01:23:29,172
This is an emotional interview for me.
1641
01:23:29,255 --> 01:23:30,381
I just met Steve
1642
01:23:30,464 --> 01:23:32,967
and it's like meeting him in person
for the first time.
1643
01:23:33,050 --> 01:23:34,552
I wanna put my arm around you.
1644
01:23:34,635 --> 01:23:36,596
And / wanna put my arms around you,
Tammy Faye.
1645
01:23:42,268 --> 01:23:44,353
- Woman: Ptl.
- Man: Ptl.
1646
01:23:45,855 --> 01:23:47,190
Woman: That's very good. Yes.
1647
01:23:49,066 --> 01:23:50,752
Woman 2:
Every time she calls, she screams,
1648
01:23:50,776 --> 01:23:52,195
"Jim and his buddy had sex on me."
1649
01:23:52,278 --> 01:23:53,714
- Fletcher: Okay. Shh.
- "Now, I'm gonna kill myself.
1650
01:23:53,738 --> 01:23:55,907
"Jim bakker'll have my
gosh darn blood on his hands."
1651
01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:56,991
Fletcher: Now...
1652
01:23:57,074 --> 01:23:58,552
Woman 2: Never heard
so many curse words.
1653
01:23:58,576 --> 01:24:00,578
- Not even from my brother Pete.
- Fletcher: Right.
1654
01:24:00,661 --> 01:24:02,264
- Did a caller upset you, dear?
- Fletcher: Tammy...
1655
01:24:02,288 --> 01:24:03,331
Yes.
1656
01:24:03,414 --> 01:24:05,574
Oh, I'm so sorry.
You know, when we do shows like this,
1657
01:24:05,625 --> 01:24:08,961
really, we're challenging christians
to open their hearts.
1658
01:24:09,045 --> 01:24:11,231
- And some don't take it that well.
- Tammy, I will handle this.
1659
01:24:11,255 --> 01:24:12,715
Oh, no, I have this, Richard.
1660
01:24:12,798 --> 01:24:14,800
It wasn't about the aids man.
It was about Jim.
1661
01:24:15,927 --> 01:24:17,967
She's called before.
We all call her "the shrieker."
1662
01:24:18,012 --> 01:24:20,139
She says Jim and his buddy
had sex on her.
1663
01:24:20,223 --> 01:24:22,099
Tammy, you're needed on stage four.
1664
01:24:22,183 --> 01:24:24,852
Gosh, we've been having
these pranks for a long time.
1665
01:24:24,936 --> 01:24:26,938
And some people,
they're just hurting so bad
1666
01:24:27,021 --> 01:24:29,857
and we just need to love them.
1667
01:24:29,941 --> 01:24:32,151
Anyway, Jim doesn't have that in him.
Believe me.
1668
01:24:33,486 --> 01:24:35,279
I know him better than anyone.
1669
01:24:58,761 --> 01:25:00,221
Join the ptl club,
1670
01:25:00,304 --> 01:25:03,057
and Tammy wants to send you
a copy of her book...
1671
01:25:03,140 --> 01:25:07,228
About how to overcome fear.
1672
01:25:07,311 --> 01:25:09,605
If you haven't
sent in your pledge...
1673
01:25:10,356 --> 01:25:12,441
$15, that is all, $15 a month,
1674
01:25:12,525 --> 01:25:14,568
it'll change your life
1675
01:25:15,278 --> 01:25:17,655
and, uh, we could all use
a little bit of that.
1676
01:25:17,738 --> 01:25:20,616
So, Tammy, I think you oughta
sing a song for us.
1677
01:25:20,700 --> 01:25:22,868
Oh, I'm back here
looking at the boat, Jim.
1678
01:25:22,952 --> 01:25:25,329
- /sn't this a magnificent thing?
- J I m: Yes.
1679
01:25:25,413 --> 01:25:26,956
Right here in our beach.
1680
01:25:27,039 --> 01:25:28,541
Jim: Looks brand new, I bet.
1681
01:25:29,500 --> 01:25:30,686
One of the local boat companies
1682
01:25:30,710 --> 01:25:32,604
- loaned it to us, I bet.
- I'm gonna take my shoes off.
1683
01:25:32,628 --> 01:25:34,213
I'm gonna Wade in the water.
1684
01:25:34,839 --> 01:25:37,591
Jim: I don't think
that boat's ever seen water.
1685
01:25:38,509 --> 01:25:40,469
Oh, it's fake. That's...
1686
01:25:41,679 --> 01:25:42,888
That's why.
1687
01:25:44,932 --> 01:25:46,517
"That's why“ what, tam?
1688
01:25:48,894 --> 01:25:50,813
Tam my: That's why / can't hear him.
1689
01:25:50,896 --> 01:25:51,897
Jim: Oh.
1690
01:25:53,065 --> 01:25:55,568
How can I hear him when the sky is fake?
1691
01:25:56,527 --> 01:25:57,847
Jim: You want to stand up, honey?
1692
01:25:57,903 --> 01:25:59,613
We're trying to do a TV show here, baby.
1693
01:25:59,697 --> 01:26:01,324
You wanna come give me some help?
1694
01:26:02,033 --> 01:26:03,284
No? Well...
1695
01:26:07,246 --> 01:26:09,999
I guess it's a good time
as any to work on the tan.
1696
01:26:12,626 --> 01:26:15,588
Well, if Tammy's not going to sing,
I guess I am.
1697
01:26:15,671 --> 01:26:16,797
Oh, we're blest
1698
01:26:16,881 --> 01:26:17,923
we 're blest, we 're blest
1699
01:26:20,843 --> 01:26:22,136
Jim: We just got her home.
1700
01:26:22,219 --> 01:26:24,388
She's doing okay, she's fine.
1701
01:26:24,472 --> 01:26:28,768
No, yeah. We'll be taking her
to the Betty Ford center in the morning.
1702
01:26:28,851 --> 01:26:32,605
She just needs to rest.
No shows for a while.
1703
01:26:33,230 --> 01:26:35,524
What's happening
with the other thing?
1704
01:26:37,318 --> 01:26:40,696
Can I just say
I love you so much?
1705
01:26:40,780 --> 01:26:43,032
I love you.
1706
01:26:43,115 --> 01:26:47,161
My friends are gonna be so excited
when I tell them that I met you.
1707
01:26:54,210 --> 01:26:55,795
Rachel: Tammy?
1708
01:26:55,878 --> 01:26:58,589
You had enough drugs in your system
to kill a truck driver.
1709
01:26:59,757 --> 01:27:00,758
I did?
1710
01:27:00,841 --> 01:27:02,885
The doctor told us
if you'd waited a day longer,
1711
01:27:02,968 --> 01:27:04,929
you would have had brain damage.
1712
01:27:05,012 --> 01:27:06,430
You could have died.
1713
01:27:07,264 --> 01:27:10,184
You can't take all those pills, honey.
They're addictive.
1714
01:27:10,267 --> 01:27:12,103
I didn't know that. I'll stop.
1715
01:27:12,186 --> 01:27:14,313
The doctors didn't tell me that.
1716
01:27:14,397 --> 01:27:16,440
I'm not a drug addict.
1717
01:27:17,733 --> 01:27:19,485
I'm only addicted to diet coke.
1718
01:27:20,611 --> 01:27:22,863
You have to stay right here.
1719
01:27:24,448 --> 01:27:25,825
God doesn't want you yet.
1720
01:27:26,951 --> 01:27:29,036
I have always prayed to him
1721
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:32,498
that he would allow you
to save the souls that I wasn't able to.
1722
01:27:33,874 --> 01:27:35,292
And he has.
1723
01:27:36,293 --> 01:27:37,294
You do.
1724
01:27:38,712 --> 01:27:41,632
So, you have to stay right here.
1725
01:27:43,926 --> 01:27:44,927
Okay?
1726
01:27:46,178 --> 01:27:47,513
Okay, mom.
1727
01:28:24,842 --> 01:28:26,051
Jim: Tammy.
1728
01:28:26,135 --> 01:28:27,845
Oh. Hi, Jim.
1729
01:28:30,848 --> 01:28:32,808
The devil's coming for me, Tammy.
1730
01:28:34,643 --> 01:28:36,187
Can we talk about Satan later?
1731
01:28:36,270 --> 01:28:39,773
You know,
I'm trying to feel like myself again.
1732
01:28:39,857 --> 01:28:41,358
Jim: There was a woman...
1733
01:28:44,945 --> 01:28:46,155
Fletcher set it up
1734
01:28:47,281 --> 01:28:51,785
after you did what you did with Gary.
1735
01:28:52,953 --> 01:28:56,373
I did it to prove something to myself,
I think. I... I don't know.
1736
01:28:57,625 --> 01:28:58,834
I hated it.
1737
01:29:01,921 --> 01:29:04,632
I ended upjust crying
in the bathroom.
1738
01:29:12,097 --> 01:29:13,098
Ifell...
1739
01:29:15,100 --> 01:29:16,352
A long way.
1740
01:29:18,437 --> 01:29:19,522
I'm so sorry.
1741
01:29:24,527 --> 01:29:25,611
Say something.
1742
01:29:30,074 --> 01:29:31,867
I've been hurting so bad, Jim.
1743
01:29:33,035 --> 01:29:34,245
For years.
1744
01:29:36,747 --> 01:29:39,083
And there's never any release
to the pain.
1745
01:29:41,001 --> 01:29:43,420
There's never anything
to make it stop hurting.
1746
01:29:45,172 --> 01:29:47,174
And when I get up in the morning,
1747
01:29:48,342 --> 01:29:50,261
I feel like I'm just gonna throw up...
1748
01:29:51,554 --> 01:29:54,098
And throw up, and throw up.
1749
01:29:56,225 --> 01:29:59,562
And I have to self-talk myself,
"you can make it, Tammy.
1750
01:30:00,062 --> 01:30:01,855
"You can make it.
1751
01:30:01,939 --> 01:30:03,607
"Don't give up."
1752
01:30:08,737 --> 01:30:11,073
Damn it, Jim!
1753
01:30:12,866 --> 01:30:17,663
I'm so sick from my faith in you!
1754
01:30:21,041 --> 01:30:23,502
Well, I'm sick of you, too.
1755
01:30:26,088 --> 01:30:29,341
You try being married to Tammy Faye.
1756
01:30:30,050 --> 01:30:34,179
All I've been doing is trying
to keep our marriage together,
1757
01:30:34,263 --> 01:30:37,641
keep the ministry together,
working night and day
1758
01:30:37,725 --> 01:30:40,811
while you're just buying minks
1759
01:30:40,894 --> 01:30:43,230
and drinking soda pop
1760
01:30:43,314 --> 01:30:46,984
and cheating on me with that ape!
1761
01:30:50,988 --> 01:30:53,449
You used to take care of me, Tammy.
1762
01:30:54,325 --> 01:30:55,826
You stopped taking care of me.
1763
01:30:55,909 --> 01:30:58,329
I don't wanna take care of you, Jim.
1764
01:30:58,412 --> 01:31:00,331
I don't wanna be your mother.
1765
01:31:00,956 --> 01:31:03,667
A woman needs a man in a relationship!
1766
01:31:03,751 --> 01:31:06,003
- I am a man!
- You're a boy.
1767
01:31:06,086 --> 01:31:07,766
I built all of this.
I built you an empire.
1768
01:31:07,838 --> 01:31:09,882
You built you an empire.
1769
01:31:09,965 --> 01:31:12,718
No man could ever give you enough.
1770
01:31:12,801 --> 01:31:15,137
You're a bottomless pit.
1771
01:31:15,888 --> 01:31:18,682
And you keep on asking me for more
1772
01:31:18,766 --> 01:31:23,354
with that whiny,
grating Betty boop voice!
1773
01:31:39,578 --> 01:31:41,080
I thought you liked Betty boop.
1774
01:31:44,833 --> 01:31:45,918
I'm sorry.
1775
01:31:47,044 --> 01:31:48,879
I'm so sorry, Tammy.
1776
01:31:49,380 --> 01:31:50,589
Me, too, Jim.
1777
01:31:51,256 --> 01:31:52,800
Um...
1778
01:31:55,344 --> 01:31:58,847
There's another thing.
The woman...
1779
01:32:00,683 --> 01:32:05,020
I gave her money to stay quiet,
but she didn't.
1780
01:32:05,771 --> 01:32:06,772
And, um...
1781
01:32:06,855 --> 01:32:09,191
And the money came from ptl donors.
1782
01:32:09,274 --> 01:32:10,275
Jim.
1783
01:32:10,359 --> 01:32:12,337
And Charles Shepard has the story
from the observer.
1784
01:32:12,361 --> 01:32:13,672
And he's gonna print it tomorrow.
1785
01:32:13,696 --> 01:32:15,614
Oh, my god.
1786
01:32:19,118 --> 01:32:22,162
- Jim: I just... I know...
- Jim. Oh, my god.
1787
01:32:24,373 --> 01:32:26,208
I destroyed everything.
1788
01:32:28,001 --> 01:32:29,878
Our life's work, Jim.
1789
01:32:29,962 --> 01:32:30,963
I know.
1790
01:32:31,922 --> 01:32:33,090
Tammy.
1791
01:32:35,050 --> 01:32:37,803
Tam, my sweetheart,
1792
01:32:39,304 --> 01:32:41,598
if anyone falls, it's gonna be me.
1793
01:32:42,599 --> 01:32:45,853
You can let me be the man
that I was meant to be for you.
1794
01:32:47,229 --> 01:32:48,647
You don't know anything.
1795
01:32:52,526 --> 01:32:53,986
Oh, they're here.
1796
01:32:54,069 --> 01:32:55,112
Who's that?
1797
01:32:55,195 --> 01:32:56,196
It's all right.
1798
01:32:56,280 --> 01:33:00,701
These are the men
that are gonna help me fix this.
1799
01:33:00,784 --> 01:33:02,119
Oh, no, Jim.
1800
01:33:02,202 --> 01:33:05,038
- No, no.
- Reverend. Thank you so much.
1801
01:33:05,122 --> 01:33:06,882
- Thank you so much for coming.
- Jerry: Jim.
1802
01:33:06,915 --> 01:33:08,792
Oh,
it's love that carried me here today.
1803
01:33:08,876 --> 01:33:11,503
Jim: God bless you.
Jerry: Tammy Faye.
1804
01:33:12,004 --> 01:33:13,172
Jerry.
1805
01:33:13,255 --> 01:33:15,132
Jim: Come in, please.
Please come in. Welcome.
1806
01:33:15,215 --> 01:33:17,217
Thank you.
Thank you for coming, fellas.
1807
01:33:17,301 --> 01:33:18,343
All right.
1808
01:33:19,219 --> 01:33:20,804
Well, here we are.
1809
01:33:20,888 --> 01:33:22,556
Jerry: We think it's best
1810
01:33:23,307 --> 01:33:26,143
that we create a distance
between you and the ministry.
1811
01:33:26,226 --> 01:33:28,312
It'll only be for a couple of weeks.
1812
01:33:28,395 --> 01:33:31,398
Then, gradually,
we'll bring you back on the network
1813
01:33:31,982 --> 01:33:34,151
after all this unpleasantness
settles down.
1814
01:33:34,234 --> 01:33:37,446
Jerry, you're a baptist.
You know, you're not a charismatic.
1815
01:33:37,529 --> 01:33:39,656
And our audience won't like that.
1816
01:33:39,740 --> 01:33:41,617
- Right, Jim?
- Audience?
1817
01:33:41,700 --> 01:33:43,535
I thought they were parishioners.
1818
01:33:43,619 --> 01:33:45,037
They are.
1819
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,206
They're our partners.
We call them partners.
1820
01:33:47,289 --> 01:33:48,665
Jerry: Mm.
1821
01:33:48,749 --> 01:33:50,501
20 million souls a day
1822
01:33:50,584 --> 01:33:53,754
touched by the word.
Thanks to ptl.
1823
01:33:53,837 --> 01:33:55,214
Jim and Tammy: Mm.
1824
01:33:55,297 --> 01:33:56,977
Jerry: You go back there
right away, and...
1825
01:33:58,467 --> 01:33:59,885
Well, bless your hearts.
1826
01:33:59,968 --> 01:34:02,763
Look at the two of you right now,
so very pitiful.
1827
01:34:03,847 --> 01:34:06,433
They see you,
and they'll change the channel.
1828
01:34:08,602 --> 01:34:09,728
Jim,
1829
01:34:09,812 --> 01:34:12,481
all those souls you won
1830
01:34:13,273 --> 01:34:14,900
for Jesus...
1831
01:34:16,735 --> 01:34:18,320
I'm here for you.
1832
01:34:19,112 --> 01:34:21,114
- Jim: Thank you, reverend.
- Jerry: Mm.
1833
01:34:24,993 --> 01:34:27,204
Just make sure
you take care of our partners.
1834
01:34:28,664 --> 01:34:30,624
That is the only thing that matters now.
1835
01:34:41,218 --> 01:34:42,928
Announcer: You're watching ptl,
1836
01:34:43,011 --> 01:34:44,930
the inspirational network.
1837
01:34:47,975 --> 01:34:50,018
Tammy and I are so very glad
1838
01:34:50,102 --> 01:34:54,147
that we've been granted the opportunity
to talk with you today,
1839
01:34:54,857 --> 01:34:56,108
and, um...
1840
01:34:56,191 --> 01:34:57,276
Say hello.
1841
01:34:57,776 --> 01:34:59,319
Hello, everybody.
1842
01:34:59,987 --> 01:35:00,988
And...
1843
01:35:02,030 --> 01:35:04,199
We want to say to you
1844
01:35:04,283 --> 01:35:09,371
that we are so very, very sorry.
1845
01:35:09,454 --> 01:35:12,875
And to thank the people
who are standing with us all over,
1846
01:35:12,958 --> 01:35:15,627
saying, "Jim, we do forgive you.
1847
01:35:15,711 --> 01:35:19,256
"We forgive Jim and Tammy
of all of their sins."
1848
01:35:19,339 --> 01:35:23,385
And we're so thankful
that god has forgiven us.
1849
01:35:23,468 --> 01:35:27,723
We don't know what the future holds,
but I believe, Tammy.
1850
01:35:28,223 --> 01:35:30,350
'Cause the god I know is still god.
1851
01:35:30,434 --> 01:35:33,312
I believe that the sun will shine again.
1852
01:35:33,395 --> 01:35:34,688
Oh, I do, too, Jim.
1853
01:35:34,771 --> 01:35:37,107
Do you wanna sing it?
Can you do it?
1854
01:35:37,190 --> 01:35:38,901
- I sure will.
- All right.
1855
01:35:38,984 --> 01:35:42,237
All right, Tammy Faye is
going to sing a song for us.
1856
01:35:44,448 --> 01:35:47,367
Tammy: Well, maybe you're hurting,
and you need this song today, too.
1857
01:35:47,451 --> 01:35:51,121
So I'll sing it for both of us, okay?
1858
01:35:51,204 --> 01:35:55,334
Female chorus:
The sun will shine again
1859
01:35:56,251 --> 01:36:02,674
now,
if you are facing a mountain so high
1860
01:36:02,758 --> 01:36:08,680
that just won't move away
1861
01:36:09,890 --> 01:36:13,393
j e rry: We've heard
about your sinful beha vior.
1862
01:36:13,977 --> 01:36:17,940
If you tell us what we need to know
about Jim bakker,
1863
01:36:19,358 --> 01:36:20,525
we can protect you.
1864
01:36:21,485 --> 01:36:24,905
Tammy: Oh-ho, listen, my brother
1865
01:36:24,988 --> 01:36:27,532
we don't want them destitute.
1866
01:36:28,116 --> 01:36:29,952
They're children of god.
1867
01:36:30,744 --> 01:36:31,954
We want to make sure
1868
01:36:32,037 --> 01:36:35,707
we don't leave them stranded
in the desert.
1869
01:36:44,257 --> 01:36:46,510
Write it down, what you make,
1870
01:36:46,593 --> 01:36:49,012
what you need, every little thing.
1871
01:36:49,096 --> 01:36:50,722
While you're in your time of healing,
1872
01:36:50,806 --> 01:36:53,976
he wants you to be safe
and provided for.
1873
01:36:54,559 --> 01:36:56,687
I told him how fragile you are.
1874
01:36:57,187 --> 01:37:00,399
He wants to help.
He told me so himself.
1875
01:37:02,401 --> 01:37:04,152
Jim: You wanna start us off, honey?
1876
01:37:07,197 --> 01:37:09,437
- What should I write, Jim?
- Jim: Start with everything.
1877
01:37:09,491 --> 01:37:11,201
Start with what you need for clothes.
1878
01:37:11,284 --> 01:37:12,869
What's your salary, Jim?
1879
01:37:12,953 --> 01:37:15,455
Jim: One second.
I'll try calling Jerry again.
1880
01:37:15,539 --> 01:37:18,208
He hasn't returned any of my calls.
1881
01:37:18,709 --> 01:37:22,337
Tammy:
The other side whose storm
1882
01:37:22,421 --> 01:37:25,882
is going to end
1883
01:37:26,883 --> 01:37:29,720
well, your midnight's almost over
1884
01:37:29,803 --> 01:37:32,889
"Jim's salary for a lifetime
1885
01:37:32,973 --> 01:37:34,599
"at 300,000 per year.
1886
01:37:34,683 --> 01:37:38,603
“Tammy's salary for a lifetime
at 100,000 a year.
1887
01:37:38,687 --> 01:37:40,939
"Secretary for one year. Phone bill.
1888
01:37:41,023 --> 01:37:44,359
"House on the lake. Security.
Personal maid."
1889
01:37:47,195 --> 01:37:49,448
I don't see the repentance there.
1890
01:37:51,616 --> 01:37:55,495
I see the greed.
I see the self-centeredness.
1891
01:37:55,579 --> 01:37:59,374
I see the avarice
that brought them down.
1892
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,711
Jim, I have sat across the table
1893
01:38:02,794 --> 01:38:06,423
from men who have told me
about your homosexual advances.
1894
01:38:07,382 --> 01:38:11,595
And since then,
I ha ve learned of fiscal irregularities.
1895
01:38:12,304 --> 01:38:14,389
It would be a disservice to god, Jim...
1896
01:38:14,473 --> 01:38:15,682
It's all over.
1897
01:38:15,766 --> 01:38:19,019
And to the church at large
if / allowed you to come back.
1898
01:38:19,102 --> 01:38:20,353
I've been had.
1899
01:38:21,271 --> 01:38:25,192
How could you have trusted
people like that?
1900
01:38:26,109 --> 01:38:29,988
You understand
that I can't allow you to stay here.
1901
01:38:31,281 --> 01:38:35,494
Your home, and everything in it,
belongs to the ministry.
1902
01:38:36,787 --> 01:38:39,289
Your midnight's almost over.
1903
01:38:39,372 --> 01:38:44,002
And thank god,
the sun is going to shine again.
1904
01:38:44,086 --> 01:38:46,296
Praise, praise in the name of the lord.
1905
01:38:46,379 --> 01:38:48,673
The charges being made
against you right now
1906
01:38:48,757 --> 01:38:53,011
are, in effect,
that you stole ptl blind
1907
01:38:53,095 --> 01:38:55,972
while ptl was suffering
through months after months
1908
01:38:56,056 --> 01:38:58,475
of $2 million negative balances,
1909
01:38:58,558 --> 01:39:00,268
you were paying yourself bonuses,
1910
01:39:00,352 --> 01:39:02,062
- you were paying Tammy Faye bonuses.
- No.
1911
01:39:02,145 --> 01:39:05,190
I don't know if you ever have
a positive balance in a ministry, Jim.
1912
01:39:05,273 --> 01:39:07,442
I've never known anyone
to have a positive one.
1913
01:39:07,526 --> 01:39:09,778
We 're... we 're always playing catch-up.
1914
01:39:10,237 --> 01:39:13,156
N ewscaster 1: Jim bakker went
on trial on charges of fraud today.
1915
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:14,449
The prosecution called bakker,
1916
01:39:14,533 --> 01:39:15,843
'a man corrupted
by love of money and luxury. ”
1917
01:39:15,867 --> 01:39:18,137
The founder of the no w-bankrupt
ptl ministry swindled followers
1918
01:39:18,161 --> 01:39:20,497
out of millions of dollars
to support a la vish lifestyle.
1919
01:39:20,580 --> 01:39:23,375
Newscaster 2: One couple showed up
in Jim and Tammy Faye masks.
1920
01:39:23,458 --> 01:39:25,770
N ewscaster 3: Couple million dollars
in ptl cash for their personal use.
1921
01:39:25,794 --> 01:39:28,338
Ted: How much money
did you earn last year?
1922
01:39:28,421 --> 01:39:32,676
Salary, bonuses, and dividends,
and royalties...
1923
01:39:32,759 --> 01:39:35,470
- No idea? You're starting...
- / don't ha ve the exact figure.
1924
01:39:35,554 --> 01:39:37,472
- Ted: Not exactly.
- / honestly, honest...
1925
01:39:37,556 --> 01:39:40,225
I do not know how much / make.
I never thought about it.
1926
01:39:40,308 --> 01:39:42,352
- She don't.
- / really don't.
1927
01:39:42,811 --> 01:39:44,855
N ews cast e r:
To raise desperately needed cash,
1928
01:39:44,938 --> 01:39:47,399
ptl is auctioning off
opulent personal items
1929
01:39:47,482 --> 01:39:49,442
deposed e vange/ists Jim and Tammy bakker
1930
01:39:49,526 --> 01:39:50,735
bought with church donations.
1931
01:39:50,819 --> 01:39:53,280
They also brought new charges
of moral failure.
1932
01:39:53,363 --> 01:39:54,882
Newscaster 2: Having sex
with reverend Jim bakker.
1933
01:39:54,906 --> 01:39:56,116
Newscaster 3: Jessica hahn,
1934
01:39:56,199 --> 01:39:59,035
bakker personally directed
the payment of ptl hush money.
1935
01:39:59,119 --> 01:40:00,912
We grieve for the impact
all of this has had
1936
01:40:00,996 --> 01:40:03,039
upon the entire Christian community.
1937
01:40:03,123 --> 01:40:07,377
Te d: As for the homosexual advances
going back to 7956,
1938
01:40:07,460 --> 01:40:09,129
- you're saying that's a lie.
- Yes. Yes.
1939
01:40:09,212 --> 01:40:12,424
Yes, that's... that's... that's true.
1940
01:40:12,507 --> 01:40:14,569
- What are you saying?
- That's... that's a lie.
1941
01:40:14,593 --> 01:40:17,053
Yes. Yes. And, you know,
1942
01:40:17,137 --> 01:40:19,055
people need to know
1943
01:40:19,139 --> 01:40:23,727
that god loves homosexuals.
1944
01:40:24,186 --> 01:40:25,937
Preachers have to be awfully pious.
1945
01:40:26,021 --> 01:40:28,273
And when they fall from grace,
they fall harder.
1946
01:40:28,356 --> 01:40:29,357
People laugh.
1947
01:40:29,441 --> 01:40:31,401
Tammy, we have a bit of goop
on our face.
1948
01:40:31,484 --> 01:40:33,129
You've taken her makeup off
1949
01:40:34,988 --> 01:40:36,948
I saw his wife.
Lheard the accusations,
1950
01:40:37,032 --> 01:40:38,992
wife-swapping, homosexuality.
1951
01:40:39,075 --> 01:40:40,702
Have you seen this Woman?
1952
01:40:40,785 --> 01:40:43,413
I'd swap her for a can of soup.
1953
01:40:43,496 --> 01:40:45,457
Reporter: National news, special report.
1954
01:40:45,540 --> 01:40:49,169
Jim bakker was found guilty
on all 24 counts of wire and...
1955
01:40:49,252 --> 01:40:51,129
- Guilty.
- Guilty.
1956
01:40:51,213 --> 01:40:55,008
He now faces up to a 720 years in prison
1957
01:40:55,091 --> 01:40:57,010
and $5 million in fines.
1958
01:40:57,093 --> 01:40:58,511
Tammy: Ted, can / say something?
1959
01:40:58,595 --> 01:40:59,846
Ted: Sure.
1960
01:40:59,930 --> 01:41:03,975
I just wanna say, remember,
god loves you.
1961
01:41:04,059 --> 01:41:07,395
I wanna say that, too.
God loves you.
1962
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:10,232
- He really does. B ye-b ye.
- He really, really does.
1963
01:41:10,315 --> 01:41:12,635
Ted: All right. Thank you both
very much for being with us.
1964
01:41:12,776 --> 01:41:13,777
Woman: We're clear.
1965
01:41:37,968 --> 01:41:39,970
It's all right, honey. Don't cry.
1966
01:41:44,766 --> 01:41:46,351
No.
1967
01:41:46,434 --> 01:41:48,728
I didn't do anything. Please.
1968
01:41:51,690 --> 01:41:52,899
Tammy: I have a song for you.
1969
01:41:53,817 --> 01:41:55,694
On Christ
1970
01:41:55,777 --> 01:42:00,282
the solid rock / stand
1971
01:42:00,365 --> 01:42:06,746
all other ground is sinking sand
1972
01:42:07,247 --> 01:42:14,170
all other ground is sinking sand
1973
01:42:23,013 --> 01:42:24,014
Tammy: God...
1974
01:42:25,098 --> 01:42:28,059
I followed you ever since
I was a little girl.
1975
01:42:31,146 --> 01:42:32,439
I loved you.
1976
01:42:34,691 --> 01:42:36,151
I served you.
1977
01:42:39,321 --> 01:42:40,864
And I worked for you.
1978
01:42:44,451 --> 01:42:45,452
God...
1979
01:42:48,747 --> 01:42:50,373
Where have you gone?
1980
01:42:52,125 --> 01:42:55,045
It's not over till it's over.
1981
01:43:31,456 --> 01:43:33,541
Hey. Sorry I'm late.
1982
01:43:33,625 --> 01:43:34,876
Tammy: Oh.
1983
01:43:36,044 --> 01:43:38,463
- Nice to meet ya. I'm Tammy.
- Nice to meet you. Stephen.
1984
01:43:38,546 --> 01:43:40,298
All right. You need a water or anything?
1985
01:43:40,382 --> 01:43:41,549
- Oh, no, I'm good.
- Okay.
1986
01:43:42,133 --> 01:43:43,301
My new headshot.
1987
01:43:43,385 --> 01:43:45,970
Yeah, all right. Nice.
1988
01:43:46,471 --> 01:43:48,348
All right. So...
1989
01:43:48,431 --> 01:43:50,350
I hear you're here
to pitch me something.
1990
01:43:50,433 --> 01:43:53,520
Oh. So I should... I'll... yeah.
1991
01:43:53,603 --> 01:43:55,939
So, I have two ideas for you, Stephen.
1992
01:43:56,022 --> 01:43:58,858
And then I'd like to hear
what you see me doing.
1993
01:43:58,942 --> 01:44:00,402
Okay.
1994
01:44:00,485 --> 01:44:04,322
Okay.
Um, the first one is about puppets.
1995
01:44:04,406 --> 01:44:06,783
I mean, it's serious,
but it's also funny.
1996
01:44:06,866 --> 01:44:10,036
It's a talk show but with puppets.
1997
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:11,788
And it's for kids and also for adults.
1998
01:44:11,871 --> 01:44:16,376
And it's a way for people
to talk about their problems,
1999
01:44:16,459 --> 01:44:17,836
but with puppets.
2000
01:44:19,754 --> 01:44:20,755
Okay.
2001
01:44:22,715 --> 01:44:25,218
Okay, I have something else
for you, Stephen.
2002
01:44:25,301 --> 01:44:27,429
- Oh, okay, another one.
- It's for teenagers.
2003
01:44:27,512 --> 01:44:30,223
You know, the biggest problem
that they say is,
2004
01:44:30,306 --> 01:44:33,393
"how can we get people to listen to us?"
2005
01:44:33,476 --> 01:44:35,478
And I would really love
to give them that chance
2006
01:44:35,562 --> 01:44:37,355
and, you know, go where they go.
2007
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:40,066
I'd love to go to the piercing parlors
with them,
2008
01:44:40,150 --> 01:44:42,902
I'd love to go to the tattoo places
with them, and...
2009
01:44:42,986 --> 01:44:44,404
And you would call this show, what?
2010
01:44:44,487 --> 01:44:46,573
- "Tammy's terrific teens."
- Oh, yeah.
2011
01:44:46,656 --> 01:44:48,700
I thought that would be,
you know, a fun title.
2012
01:44:48,783 --> 01:44:50,285
I was just curious.
2013
01:44:51,077 --> 01:44:53,079
Well, what do you see me doing, Stephen?
2014
01:44:53,163 --> 01:44:55,206
I mean, you're the expert.
2015
01:44:55,999 --> 01:44:59,002
Well, have you reached out
to any Christian networks or anything?
2016
01:45:01,629 --> 01:45:03,548
Well, they won't have me.
2017
01:45:03,631 --> 01:45:07,177
Okay. Well, what I've learned
from doing these shows,
2018
01:45:07,260 --> 01:45:10,054
and I think you've learned as well, is,
2019
01:45:10,138 --> 01:45:11,222
you know, it is dangerous
2020
01:45:11,306 --> 01:45:14,184
to wanna be seen just
for the sake of it. You know?
2021
01:45:14,267 --> 01:45:16,269
Well, I do love the camera, but...
2022
01:45:16,352 --> 01:45:17,395
Why?
2023
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:19,272
Well, because it's a person.
2024
01:45:19,355 --> 01:45:20,982
It's someone to talk to.
2025
01:45:21,065 --> 01:45:24,360
It's... it's god's love through me.
2026
01:45:27,363 --> 01:45:28,656
So what do you think, Stephen?
2027
01:45:28,740 --> 01:45:30,366
You know, would you like to do a show?
2028
01:45:31,743 --> 01:45:33,536
I don't know, Tammy.
2029
01:45:33,620 --> 01:45:36,414
I just don't think
it's a good fit for us right now.
2030
01:45:37,081 --> 01:45:38,082
Okay?
2031
01:45:40,084 --> 01:45:42,629
Well, well, I... I...
2032
01:45:43,254 --> 01:45:45,149
- I really appreciate...
- Thank you for coming in.
2033
01:45:45,173 --> 01:45:47,050
- Thank you.
- Thanks for coming through.
2034
01:45:47,133 --> 01:45:49,093
We'll take care
of your parking validation.
2035
01:45:49,177 --> 01:45:50,428
- Thank you.
- Tammy: Okay.
2036
01:45:51,387 --> 01:45:52,639
You have a good one.
2037
01:45:56,100 --> 01:45:57,477
- Bye.
- Bye.
2038
01:45:58,770 --> 01:45:59,771
Tammy: Oops.
2039
01:46:19,123 --> 01:46:20,124
Boy 1: Oh, man.
2040
01:46:21,459 --> 01:46:23,253
Boy 2: What'd she do to her face?
2041
01:46:25,797 --> 01:46:28,800
Boy 1: I told you she lived here.
What a freak.
2042
01:46:33,888 --> 01:46:36,099
-Oh, man.
2043
01:46:36,182 --> 01:46:38,226
Boy 2: Oh, shit.
She's comin' over here.
2044
01:46:38,309 --> 01:46:40,353
- You guys just hangin' out?
- Boy 2: Yeah.
2045
01:46:41,688 --> 01:46:45,525
So, you can talk about me.
That's all right.
2046
01:46:46,025 --> 01:46:47,694
But, you know,
you gotta shake my hand,
2047
01:46:47,777 --> 01:46:49,195
and you gotta say hi first.
2048
01:46:51,531 --> 01:46:52,824
- Hi.
- Hi, nice to meet ya.
2049
01:46:52,907 --> 01:46:54,200
I'm Tammy. What's your name?
2050
01:46:54,284 --> 01:46:55,910
-Um, Max
2051
01:46:55,994 --> 01:46:59,330
but, you know, we're not strangers.
I live right there. We're neighbors.
2052
01:47:00,123 --> 01:47:03,209
Oh!
Let me show you guys what I just got.
2053
01:47:03,293 --> 01:47:06,212
Who would like a picture?
2054
01:47:10,216 --> 01:47:12,260
Jolene, lcannot believe
that you have eaten
2055
01:47:12,343 --> 01:47:14,429
almost an entire jar of peanut butter.
2056
01:47:14,512 --> 01:47:17,765
Jolene: Well, I'm sorry, susanne.
Lhappen to be eating for two.
2057
01:47:17,849 --> 01:47:18,850
Don't beg.
2058
01:47:20,351 --> 01:47:21,686
Okay, you're being so good.
2059
01:47:21,769 --> 01:47:23,646
Susanne: Lsay, have atit.
2060
01:47:23,730 --> 01:47:25,291
Jolene: You know, susanne,
since you're having
2061
01:47:25,315 --> 01:47:27,042
so much trouble collecting
money for your benefit,
2062
01:47:27,066 --> 01:47:28,484
lm/ght be able to help you out.
2063
01:47:28,568 --> 01:47:30,153
Susanne: You, how?
2064
01:47:30,236 --> 01:47:31,916
Tammy: God bless you.
You've reached Tammy.
2065
01:47:31,988 --> 01:47:33,406
Leave me a message.
2066
01:47:35,491 --> 01:47:37,702
Hello, ll/lrs. Bakker.
This is Linda Thomas
2067
01:47:37,785 --> 01:47:39,579
from oral Roberts school of divinity.
2068
01:47:39,662 --> 01:47:42,790
You probably don't remember
but / volunteered at ptl.
2069
01:47:42,874 --> 01:47:44,751
You were always so nice to me.
2070
01:47:44,834 --> 01:47:46,836
Anyway,
I'm calling to invite you to sing
2071
01:47:46,919 --> 01:47:49,172
at this year's festival
of praise and redemption.
2072
01:47:49,255 --> 01:47:51,633
I think you'd be a wonderful
addition to our program.
2073
01:47:51,716 --> 01:47:54,028
We 'i/ check back with you
to find out if you're interested
2074
01:47:54,052 --> 01:47:55,845
thanks very much.
2075
01:48:26,084 --> 01:48:27,877
- Jim: Hi.
- Hi.
2076
01:48:43,726 --> 01:48:44,936
So, what's new?
2077
01:48:45,019 --> 01:48:46,771
Oh. I don't know.
2078
01:48:49,524 --> 01:48:51,943
I got an invitation
from oral Roberts to sing.
2079
01:48:52,902 --> 01:48:54,320
- Wow.
- Yeah.
2080
01:48:54,404 --> 01:48:55,947
That's wonderful.
2081
01:48:56,906 --> 01:48:58,384
- I'm not gonna do it though.
- You should.
2082
01:48:58,408 --> 01:49:00,118
No, I haven't been in church for years.
2083
01:49:00,201 --> 01:49:01,452
Well, that's where you belong.
2084
01:49:01,536 --> 01:49:03,079
No, I don't belong with them.
2085
01:49:03,162 --> 01:49:04,789
They're gonna laugh.
2086
01:49:04,872 --> 01:49:05,873
I'm not gonna go.
2087
01:49:05,957 --> 01:49:07,834
It's my fault you feel that way.
2088
01:49:07,917 --> 01:49:09,335
I'm sorry for that.
2089
01:49:10,378 --> 01:49:11,462
All of it.
2090
01:49:14,215 --> 01:49:15,258
I pray for you, Jim.
2091
01:49:16,092 --> 01:49:18,678
And I pray that god will use you again.
2092
01:49:20,388 --> 01:49:21,472
Yes.
2093
01:49:26,394 --> 01:49:28,730
I appreciate you signing
the divorce papers, Jim.
2094
01:49:28,813 --> 01:49:30,064
I didn't want to, tam.
2095
01:49:30,773 --> 01:49:31,774
I know.
2096
01:49:33,901 --> 01:49:36,529
But, you know, we've just been
through too much together
2097
01:49:36,612 --> 01:49:39,365
and, you know,
there's been too many hurts
2098
01:49:39,449 --> 01:49:41,325
that have happened over the years.
2099
01:49:42,785 --> 01:49:44,245
And that poor girl, Jim.
2100
01:49:44,328 --> 01:49:45,872
I know, I know. I know.
2101
01:49:46,998 --> 01:49:48,541
I'm ashamed of that.
2102
01:49:49,667 --> 01:49:53,045
I've been getting some real me
and god time in here
2103
01:49:53,129 --> 01:49:54,922
and everything looks very,
very different
2104
01:49:55,006 --> 01:49:56,924
when you're looking at it
from the bottom up.
2105
01:49:57,008 --> 01:49:58,176
- Well, yeah.
- Yeah.
2106
01:49:58,259 --> 01:49:59,510
And I've just been thinking,
2107
01:50:00,511 --> 01:50:02,054
were we preaching
2108
01:50:03,181 --> 01:50:06,267
that god doesn't love you
if you're poor?
2109
01:50:07,685 --> 01:50:09,395
Well, you know that I grew up poor.
2110
01:50:11,314 --> 01:50:13,858
It's not what you have in stuff,
2111
01:50:13,941 --> 01:50:16,235
it's the people that count.
2112
01:50:17,111 --> 01:50:18,863
- Amen.
- Amen.
2113
01:50:34,420 --> 01:50:35,630
Rachel: Tammy.
2114
01:50:37,548 --> 01:50:38,549
Mom?
2115
01:50:43,554 --> 01:50:46,265
Pastor: ”we therefore
were buried with him
2116
01:50:46,349 --> 01:50:47,558
”through baptism into death.
2117
01:50:48,893 --> 01:50:49,894
”In order that,
2118
01:50:49,977 --> 01:50:52,438
'just as Christ was raised from the dead
2119
01:50:52,522 --> 01:50:54,649
”through the glory of the father,
2120
01:50:54,732 --> 01:50:57,693
”we too may walk in newness of life. ”
2121
01:51:00,321 --> 01:51:01,739
Man: Such a good service.
2122
01:51:02,740 --> 01:51:04,408
Fred: Hello, Tom. Thanks for comin'.
2123
01:51:06,410 --> 01:51:07,495
There you are.
2124
01:51:08,579 --> 01:51:10,706
Aren't you gonna come in,
have somethin' to eat?
2125
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:13,918
I don't belong in there with them.
2126
01:51:14,001 --> 01:51:15,002
Yeah.
2127
01:51:16,546 --> 01:51:18,631
One good thing about your mum
kicking the bucket is
2128
01:51:18,714 --> 01:51:20,383
I never have to go to church again.
2129
01:51:22,552 --> 01:51:24,512
No, I shouldn't laugh at that.
2130
01:51:26,931 --> 01:51:29,141
- Oh, I did something terrible.
- Oh?
2131
01:51:30,351 --> 01:51:32,061
Oh.
2132
01:51:32,854 --> 01:51:35,648
You're forgiven.
2133
01:51:35,731 --> 01:51:38,943
Ooh. Wow, she really was blind,
wasn't she?
2134
01:51:39,026 --> 01:51:40,570
Mm-hmm.
2135
01:51:42,196 --> 01:51:43,573
I got somethin' for ya.
2136
01:51:44,907 --> 01:51:46,200
You recognize this?
2137
01:51:49,662 --> 01:51:51,747
I thought falwell took everything.
2138
01:51:51,831 --> 01:51:53,124
She hid this.
2139
01:51:53,207 --> 01:51:54,625
She stole it.
2140
01:51:55,126 --> 01:51:56,627
Well, she said she'd be damned
2141
01:51:56,711 --> 01:51:58,671
if she was gonna hand over
this precious thing
2142
01:51:58,754 --> 01:52:00,298
her daughter worked so hard for
2143
01:52:00,381 --> 01:52:02,466
to the fat baptist.
2144
01:52:30,703 --> 01:52:33,015
Woman: We 're
opening the house now, ll/ls. Bakker.
2145
01:52:33,039 --> 01:52:34,749
People are taking their seats.
2146
01:52:39,837 --> 01:52:41,756
Well, hello there, Tammy.
2147
01:52:43,549 --> 01:52:45,176
Hi, there.
2148
01:52:47,678 --> 01:52:48,888
I'm scared.
2149
01:52:56,562 --> 01:53:00,483
Jesus, come in to my heart,
and forgive me my sins.
2150
01:53:02,443 --> 01:53:04,695
I know I cared about things
that I shouldn't have.
2151
01:53:06,697 --> 01:53:08,532
And I know I got lost...
2152
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:14,246
And I forgot who you are to me...
2153
01:53:17,625 --> 01:53:19,043
But that's done now.
2154
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:22,922
Yeah, I won't go fonnard
2155
01:53:23,005 --> 01:53:26,217
looking in the rearview mirror
of my life.
2156
01:53:27,969 --> 01:53:29,679
Man: On stage in 70 minutes.
2157
01:53:47,822 --> 01:53:48,823
Thank you.
2158
01:53:50,533 --> 01:53:52,868
- Here, this is for the piano player.
- Okay.
2159
01:54:09,468 --> 01:54:11,095
An n ou n ce r:
Ladies and gentlemen...
2160
01:54:12,263 --> 01:54:15,683
Please welcome
tonight's special guest,
2161
01:54:15,766 --> 01:54:17,226
Tammy Faye.
2162
01:54:25,651 --> 01:54:26,652
Tammy: Aw.
2163
01:54:27,653 --> 01:54:31,532
Thank you. Thank you so much.
2164
01:54:33,868 --> 01:54:36,954
I am genuinely, I am so happy
2165
01:54:37,038 --> 01:54:39,582
to be back where I once belonged.
2166
01:54:44,253 --> 01:54:47,256
This morning when I was
in need of some comfort,
2167
01:54:47,339 --> 01:54:50,926
I turned to my favorite scripture,
2168
01:54:51,427 --> 01:54:52,928
psalms 91.
2169
01:54:56,140 --> 01:54:58,684
"He that dwelleth in the secret place
2170
01:54:58,768 --> 01:55:00,352
"of the most high
2171
01:55:01,312 --> 01:55:06,108
"shall abide under the shadow
of the almighty."
2172
01:55:06,692 --> 01:55:09,070
And this is my favorite part.
2173
01:55:16,452 --> 01:55:19,330
"He shall cover thee with his feathers
2174
01:55:21,165 --> 01:55:23,000
"and under his wings
2175
01:55:23,834 --> 01:55:25,753
"shalt thou trust."
2176
01:55:30,049 --> 01:55:32,968
Well, I haven't had a concert
in almost a decade
2177
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:36,680
and I am a little nervous.
2178
01:55:38,641 --> 01:55:39,850
But I'll do my best
2179
01:55:40,434 --> 01:55:43,479
to deliver him to you folks tonight.
Okay?
2180
01:55:52,279 --> 01:55:53,781
/I/line eyes
2181
01:55:54,657 --> 01:55:56,951
have seen the glory
2182
01:55:58,410 --> 01:56:02,164
of the coming of the lord
2183
01:56:03,290 --> 01:56:06,877
he is trampling out the vintage
2184
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:13,134
where the grapes of wrath are stored
2185
01:56:14,093 --> 01:56:15,928
he hath loosed
2186
01:56:17,096 --> 01:56:18,722
the fateful lightning
2187
01:56:20,766 --> 01:56:25,187
of his terrible, swift sword
2188
01:56:27,731 --> 01:56:34,738
his truth is marching on
2189
01:56:36,824 --> 01:56:43,831
glory, glory, hallelujah
2190
01:56:43,914 --> 01:56:50,921
glory, glory, hallelujah
2191
01:56:51,422 --> 01:56:57,678
glory, glory, hallelujah
2192
01:56:57,761 --> 01:57:04,351
his truth is marching on
2193
01:57:04,435 --> 01:57:08,772
I have read his fiery gospel
2194
01:57:08,856 --> 01:57:11,901
writ in burnished rows of steel
2195
01:57:11,984 --> 01:57:15,738
'as ye deal with my condemners
2196
01:57:15,821 --> 01:57:18,908
”so with you my grace shall deal ”
2197
01:57:18,991 --> 01:57:22,661
let the hero, born of woman
2198
01:57:22,745 --> 01:57:26,040
crush the serpent with his heel
2199
01:57:26,123 --> 01:57:32,880
since god is marching on
2200
01:57:32,963 --> 01:57:37,343
come on, everybody!
Feel his miracle!
2201
01:57:37,426 --> 01:57:44,266
Glory, glory, hallelujah
2202
01:57:44,767 --> 01:57:51,774
glory, glory, hallelujah
2203
01:57:51,857 --> 01:57:57,863
glory, glory, hallelujah
2204
01:57:57,947 --> 01:58:04,703
his truth is marching on
2205
01:58:04,787 --> 01:58:07,665
oh, how thankful I am
2206
01:58:07,748 --> 01:58:10,125
for the amazing grace of god.
2207
01:58:10,209 --> 01:58:13,462
Because without that beautiful grace,
2208
01:58:13,545 --> 01:58:16,298
I wouldn't even be here today.
2209
01:58:16,382 --> 01:58:18,384
That grace that reached down and said,
2210
01:58:18,467 --> 01:58:22,346
"Tammy Faye, I love you.
2211
01:58:22,429 --> 01:58:25,808
"And I love you just the way you are."
2212
01:58:25,891 --> 01:58:29,478
You know god's grace
is sufficient enough for you today, too.
2213
01:58:29,561 --> 01:58:34,024
And he loves you just the way you are!
2214
01:58:34,108 --> 01:58:40,948
Glory, glory, hallelujah
2215
01:58:41,031 --> 01:58:48,038
glory, glory, hallelujah
2216
01:58:48,122 --> 01:58:54,586
glory, glory, hallelujah
2217
01:58:54,670 --> 01:59:01,677
his truth is marching on
2218
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:06,140
our god is
2219
01:59:06,223 --> 01:59:10,144
ll/larching
2220
01:59:18,527 --> 01:59:22,573
Thank you, lord,
for the United States of America.
2221
01:59:22,656 --> 01:59:23,824
We thank you, lord,
2222
01:59:23,907 --> 01:59:27,369
that we live in this wonderful country.
2223
01:59:27,453 --> 01:59:31,540
God bless america. Hallelujah.
2224
01:59:32,207 --> 01:59:34,126
Oh, yeah.
2225
02:00:27,096 --> 02:00:29,390
It's not over till it's over.
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