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- And how did it happen?
- Beat me up.
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They made me stand against the wall,
like this with me arms outstretched...
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...and my legs stretched out behind me.
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Kept me like this for ages,
for over 30 hours or somethin' like that.
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And if 1 tried to relax or lower me arms,
they hit me.
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And then they gave me the crab treatment.
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Were you arrested on Section 1 2?
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- Yeah.
- Okay. Good.
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Do you have any idea why?
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Sort of like most of me mates
were accused of belongin' to the 1RA.
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Which he wasn't.
That's why they let him go.
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Could you demonstrate
this crab treatment to us?
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Yeah.
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One of them grabbed me...
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...you know, with me arms back here...
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...while his mate punched me
in the stomach.
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He just punched me and punched me.
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And the other one
kept askin' me questions...
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...askin' more questions,
and they punched me again.
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Okay?
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- Are you all right?
- Yeah.
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Jim, why don't you tell them
what happened to you?
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1 was arrested the week before Michael
and taken to Castlereagh.
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And then they threw me
into a cell for about four hours.
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They took me out...
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...brought me up to what
they call an interview room.
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And two cops were sittin' there with me.
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One of the cops asked me my name.
1 never told him my name...
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...'cause if they didn't know my name,
they wouldn't have arrested me.
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At once, as soon as 1 told him,
all four cops came rushin' in the room...
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...took me off the chair,
lifted me by the arms and legs...
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...and held me over a table.
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And one of them put a towel
round my face.
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He was holding it
at the back of my neck here...
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...and another one poured water
over my nose and mouth.
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1t was goin' up my nose
and into my throat...
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...1 was gettin' the drowning feeling.
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Sullivan?
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Get the bastard!
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1 don't believe it.
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- Tribal rites.
- 1t's frightening.
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Can 1 take you onto the question
of the treatment of prisoners...
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...the question of interrogation techniques
referred to in the press release.
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1t suggests that these allegations
of ill-treatment have reduced since 1 978.
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Can 1 ask you to comment?
Do you have a view...
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...as to whether these forms of
ill-treatment that you found are fair?
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What evidence do you have for them?
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Not to be too dramatic, but these are all...
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...statements of alleged maltreatment that
we have collected over our time here.
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And that one?
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"Punching, slapping, kicking the plaintiff.
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"Causing, requiring,
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permitting the plaintiff to lie
on the floor of an interview room.
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"Causing, requiring,
permitting the plaintiff...
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"...to remove his coat and shoes
in the interview room.
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"Punching the plaintiff
in the abdominal area.
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"Banging the plaintiff's head off the wall
of the interview room.
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"Standing on the plaintiff's
shoulders, stomach, ankles and chest.
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"Squeezing the plaintiff's neck.
Squeezing the plaintiff's testicles.
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"Causing, requiring,
permitting the plaintiff...
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- "...to be spreadled..."
- Spread-eagled.
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"Between three members
of the Royal Ulster Constabulary...
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"...while one kicked him with his heel
in the area of the abdomen and raped..."
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Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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These are unconfirmed allegations, right?
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Allegations for which
there is no outside evidence.
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These are allegations
from a group of people.
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A great deal of this evidence
is corroborated.
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1s it a war situation or not?
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1f it's a war situation,
to solve that war situation...
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...you have to negotiate,
and so to accept that there are two sides...
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...putting around a table to negotiate...
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...and that, the British
government doesn't accept.
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Does your report deal with
the shoot-to-kill policy...
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...operatin' here in the six counties?
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Allegations of a shoot-to-kill policy
carried out by the RUC...
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...the UDR, and the British Army
does form part of our report, yes.
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- Do you have any figures?
- Yes, in...
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...the period of 1 969 to 1 980...
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...the evidence shows
that at least 1 30 people...
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...were killed by the security forces,
and half of those deaths...
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...were of civilians
that had no connection...
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...with paramilitary activities at all.
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Given the fact that there is a state of
armed insurrection in Northern 1reland...
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...do you not concede
the government has every right...
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...to take whatever measures
it deems necessary to...
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...stem this insurrection?
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Britain is recognised the world over
as a democratic state.
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We will present our report
based on the documented evidence.
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And hopefully,
the British government will respond.
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1'm sure they will.
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Thank you. That's all we have time for.
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We're flying out tomorrow. Thank you.
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Hi.
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- I'm Teresa Doyle. Republican NeWs.
- Excuse me?
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Republican News.
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You know the shoot-to-kill?
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1t happens all the time.
1 could show you a photograph.
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- Of what?
- Of an execution.
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You have that with you?
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1t's not the sort of thing you carry around
the streets of Belfast in your handbag.
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But 1 could get it to you.
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1'm sorry. Our investigation's concluded.
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- So you're not interested?
- No, we're not here to be used.
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Maybe that's all you're here for.
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Paul?
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- 1s that the tape from yesterday?
- Yeah.
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1'm glad we're leaving tomorrow.
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Belfast reminds me of Chile.
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There's no comparison.
How can you say that?
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That's the way it feels:
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Killings, torture, intrigue.
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A reality check:
What happened in Chile can't happen here.
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- Let's eat.
- Yeah.
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- You got any money?
- Yes, 1 do.
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Good.
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So good night. See you tomorrow.
Tough day.
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Good night.
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Can you believe
he turned around and waved?
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- Do you know him?
- 1 don't know. 1 thought 1 did.
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- No messages.
- Okay, thanks.
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Yes.
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Harris?
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- 1 listened to your tape.
- Have you come to a decision?
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1 don't know.
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We must talk.
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They saw us together.
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- How do you know?
- After 1 left you, 1 was followed.
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That means you're under surveillance.
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1 really don't think that this is something
that 1 should get involved in...
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...but 1'll tell you what 1 can do.
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I can turn the tape over
to whatever authorities you deem...
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No! That would be crazy.
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We must meet.
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- Where?
- Near Dungannon. Now.
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It's less than an hour's drive away.
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Look, I've got a plane to catch.
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This won't take long.
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Mr. Sullivan?
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- Where's Harris?
- He's down the road, waiting on you.
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I am here to take you to him.
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You can leave your car here.
We'll go in mine.
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- My car's okay here?
- It's quite safe there.
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By the way, my name's Frank Molloy.
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- Did you bring the tape?
- Yeah.
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1 1 69.
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Sorry?
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800 years: That's how long
we've been fightin' for independence.
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Sword...
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...famine, burnin'...
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...hangin', shootin', transportation:
We've had it all.
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Who's Harris?
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It's better he tells you himself.
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There's a car behind us.
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Is it following us?
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We'll soon find out.
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There's something wrong here.
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Get down! Get down!
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- Ms. Ingrid Jessner?
- Yes.
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I'm afraid we've got some
rather serious news for you.
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- May we come in?
- What is it?
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It's about Mr. Sullivan.
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He's been involved in a
rather serious incident.
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They were killed
in a car crash early this morning...
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... which involved a police
checkpoint outside Dungannon.
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The men,
who were driving a yellow Ford Cortina...
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... were signaled by police to stop.
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Ignoring the warning, the car accelerated
and drove directly at the officers.
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Police opened fire on the vehicle
as it attempted to escape.
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The car then went out of control
and careered off the road.
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Upon arrival at the crash scene,
police found the occupants were dead.
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Names of the two men
have not yet been released.
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Can you identify the body
as that of Paul Sullivan?
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Yes.
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Ingrid.
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Come on. Let's go.
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Ms. Jessner,
where have you just come from?
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Can you move away?
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It's said the man in the car
with Mr. Sullivan was a terrorist suspect.
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Is that true?
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- What are you suggesting?
- Who was with Mr. Sullivan?
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- I have no idea.
- Police say he was a terrorist suspect.
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Did the car go through a police roadcheck?
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They say they opened fire
after the car went through a checkpoint?
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Where were they going this morning?
Did you know?
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As journalists, you must appreciate
that I can't talk about this right now.
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The driver of the car
in which the shooting occurred...
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... has been named as Frank Molloy.
Police said the car failed to stop...
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... at a roadblock outside Dungannon
around 6:1 5 this morning.
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An RUC statement said
the driver accelerated...
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... toward their officers,
who opened fire on the fleeing car...
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... causing it to swerve off the road.
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Also in the car was Paul Sullivan,
an American lawyer and a leading figure...
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... in the International League
for Civil Liberties.
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What's puxxling observers...
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... is why Mr. Sullivan should have
driven out of Belfast...
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... in the early hours of the morning
to meet a man...
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... who the police say is a terrorist suspect.
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This is Ivan Little,
Ulster Television, Dungannon.
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With me in the studio to discuss...
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... the political implications
of today's shooting...
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... is Mr. Alec Nevin...
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... who is a Conservative Party spokesman
on Northern Ireland.
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Mr. Nevin,
earlier, we saw pictures of Americans...
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... demonstrating outside
the British embassy in Washington.
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Let's make a distinction.
What we saw was a demonstration...
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... by supporters of the IRA...
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Could I finish my question?
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The people who give comfort
and weapons...
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... to the men of violence.
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John Ware, Labour MP.
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A particularly embarrassing thing,
I would think...
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... was, of course, the death of
this civil-liberties spokesman...
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It's quite clear that people
will be asking the question:
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Does this mean the investigation
has hit on a raw nerve...
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... has revealed some of the things
that have been perpetrated...
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... by security forces due to
their presence in Northern Ireland?
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Is Ms. Jessner coming
down to talk to us today?
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- No. She's resting.
- How is she?
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All right.
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Have you been told any more
about what happened...
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...on the morning of the shooting?
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The only thing that we know is that
Mr. Sullivan has been murdered...
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...by a member of the security forces...
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...near Dungannon in a car, a rented car...
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...with a man called Mr. Molloy.
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Did Mr. Sullivan have
Republican sympathies?
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- No.
- Was he a member of Noraid?
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- Not at all.
- What kind of a man was he, Mr. Sullivan?
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The only thing I can say is he was
a very good lawyer and a great fighter...
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...for the civil rights all over the world
and a marvelous friend.
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The British government have
just appointed...
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...Deputy Chief Constable Kerrigan...
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...to head up the investigation
on the shooting.
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What's your reaction to that?
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I've heard that Kerrigan is
a fine investigator of the CID...
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...but we would have preferred that...
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...it would have been
an independent, international inquiry.
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So you don't have
any confidence in the inquiry?
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00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:05,880
I've got a certain amount
of skepticism about that.
241
00:25:06,379 --> 00:25:08,459
You said that you were skeptical. Why?
242
00:25:08,548 --> 00:25:11,088
Why will the Kerrigan inquiry
not discover the truth?
243
00:25:11,176 --> 00:25:15,966
Because you had a lot of inquiries
in the 1 3 past years...
244
00:25:16,056 --> 00:25:19,306
... and it didn't change anything.
245
00:25:37,035 --> 00:25:40,155
Excuse me, sir.
I'm Sgt. Hughes, your liaison for your stay.
246
00:25:40,247 --> 00:25:42,667
Hello.
This is Chief Superintendent Maxwell.
247
00:25:42,749 --> 00:25:44,999
How do you do?
The car's just outside the front.
248
00:25:45,085 --> 00:25:47,415
- Can I take your bag?
- Thank you.
249
00:25:52,842 --> 00:25:55,302
- This Jessner woman...
- Sullivan's girlfriend.
250
00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:59,717
What time is it now?
4:00. Late in the day.
251
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,729
What about this Mrs. Molloy?
252
00:26:03,436 --> 00:26:06,476
She lives in Fort William.
253
00:26:07,524 --> 00:26:09,784
How far is it to Fort William, Sergeant?
254
00:26:09,859 --> 00:26:13,529
Fort William's just over here
on the right, sir, about a mile away.
255
00:26:15,448 --> 00:26:18,198
It might be a good idea
if you spoke to them both together.
256
00:26:18,285 --> 00:26:19,865
Let them feed off each other.
257
00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:46,353
Your ID, Sarge?
258
00:27:03,204 --> 00:27:05,044
Might as well leave the cases in the car.
259
00:27:05,123 --> 00:27:08,423
- We'll be going to the hotel after.
- Sure they'll be safe here?
260
00:27:08,501 --> 00:27:10,001
I hope so, sir.
261
00:27:22,223 --> 00:27:23,773
Just in here, sir.
262
00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:33,689
- We're a bit pushed for space, sir.
- Not bad.
263
00:27:34,402 --> 00:27:37,992
I want a large wall map of Northern Ireland
and a blackboard.
264
00:27:38,073 --> 00:27:40,953
- Blackboard?
- Those big black things you write on.
265
00:27:41,368 --> 00:27:42,788
Yes, sir.
266
00:27:42,994 --> 00:27:48,044
- I'll tell Mr. Brodie you're here, sir.
- Thank you, Sergeant. That's kind of you.
267
00:27:54,714 --> 00:27:57,684
Hello.
268
00:27:59,010 --> 00:28:03,220
- I've seen Jack Cunningham lately.
- What's he doing nowadays?
269
00:28:03,306 --> 00:28:06,676
- He runs his own security business.
- He must be rolling in it.
270
00:28:06,768 --> 00:28:08,438
He's earned it.
271
00:28:09,396 --> 00:28:11,686
Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Kerrigan.
272
00:28:11,773 --> 00:28:13,443
Chief Superintendent Maxwell.
273
00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:14,645
Sir.
274
00:28:14,734 --> 00:28:16,694
- Good flight?
- Bit cramped.
275
00:28:16,778 --> 00:28:18,528
Yeah, always is.
276
00:28:19,030 --> 00:28:21,030
This is not what you're used to, I suppose.
277
00:28:21,116 --> 00:28:23,986
It's the best we can do
for one of Britain's top policemen.
278
00:28:24,077 --> 00:28:25,447
It's perfectly adequate.
279
00:28:26,788 --> 00:28:29,418
- Anything else you need?
- Thank you. I'll ask.
280
00:28:29,499 --> 00:28:31,999
Detective Sgt. Hughes
will be your liaison officer.
281
00:28:32,085 --> 00:28:34,665
He will organise
all your internal appointments.
282
00:28:34,754 --> 00:28:38,974
- Yes, secretarial staff...
- She'll be arriving tomorrow.
283
00:28:39,134 --> 00:28:40,634
Excuse me.
284
00:28:42,846 --> 00:28:46,056
- Have you read the CID interim report?
- Yes.
285
00:28:47,267 --> 00:28:49,347
Now, as I understand it...
286
00:28:49,436 --> 00:28:54,056
...your terms of reference in the inquiry
are to reexamine the evidence and...
287
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:56,649
Or if necessary,
reinvestigate the circumstances...
288
00:28:56,735 --> 00:28:59,735
...which led to the shooting
of Paul Sullivan and Frank Molloy.
289
00:29:00,238 --> 00:29:03,408
I'm sure that your expertise
will be appreciated.
290
00:29:04,117 --> 00:29:07,367
However, I should warn you
that you may encounter some prejudice.
291
00:29:07,954 --> 00:29:11,464
- From members of your force?
- Possibly. But don't let that deter you.
292
00:29:11,541 --> 00:29:13,001
It won't.
293
00:29:13,918 --> 00:29:17,878
See, you have to bear in mind
the situation here in Northern Ireland.
294
00:29:17,964 --> 00:29:20,594
We operate under enormous pressure.
295
00:29:21,217 --> 00:29:24,047
For the last 1 2 years,
the Royal Ulster Constabulary...
296
00:29:24,137 --> 00:29:27,967
...have fought to maintain the peace
against the terrorists.
297
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,140
140 people have given their lives.
298
00:29:31,561 --> 00:29:33,061
3,500 have been injured.
299
00:29:33,521 --> 00:29:36,821
And 1 55 medals for outstanding
feats of gallantry.
300
00:29:37,317 --> 00:29:39,567
Naturally, when outsiders
from the mainland...
301
00:29:39,652 --> 00:29:43,282
...come here to the province to tell us...
- I do understand.
302
00:29:45,241 --> 00:29:48,871
But rest assured,
no obstacle will be placed in your path.
303
00:29:48,953 --> 00:29:52,293
- You'll receive my full cooperation.
- Thank you.
304
00:29:52,582 --> 00:29:56,132
About accommodation, we have a couple
of safe houses where RUC personnel...
305
00:29:56,211 --> 00:30:01,051
I think it would be better if we
were to stay in a small hotel somewhere.
306
00:30:01,549 --> 00:30:02,589
Can I ask why?
307
00:30:02,675 --> 00:30:05,755
I don't want to socialise with officers
I might have to question.
308
00:30:05,845 --> 00:30:08,385
Best keep it on a strictly
professional basis.
309
00:30:08,848 --> 00:30:11,978
- Could I just say one thing, so...
- Also, I'll need a car...
310
00:30:12,769 --> 00:30:14,519
...without a driver.
311
00:30:15,271 --> 00:30:17,611
You realise that I can't
guarantee your safety?
312
00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:18,690
Absolutely.
313
00:30:18,775 --> 00:30:21,775
Just let me say one thing,
so there can be no misunderstanding.
314
00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:26,905
When you have completed your inquiry,
you will deliver your report to me first.
315
00:30:28,284 --> 00:30:31,624
I understood it was to go to the
DPP first. -No, it comes to me first.
316
00:30:31,704 --> 00:30:34,214
I will forward it
to the Director of Public Prosecutions.
317
00:30:34,332 --> 00:30:37,082
That is the constitutional position.
318
00:30:37,377 --> 00:30:40,997
We might as well keep that
on a professional basis, too.
319
00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:43,509
- Okay.
- Thank you.
320
00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:55,560
Ingrid...
321
00:30:56,187 --> 00:31:00,147
Henri and I will stay with you
for as long as you need us.
322
00:31:00,567 --> 00:31:02,437
- I'm okay.
- You sure?
323
00:31:03,403 --> 00:31:07,033
I think you can do more
back home than you can do here.
324
00:31:15,248 --> 00:31:16,538
Hello?
325
00:31:17,584 --> 00:31:20,634
No, it isn't Ingrid. Who is calling?
326
00:31:23,214 --> 00:31:25,174
Can you wait a second?
327
00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:27,889
It's Paul's mother.
328
00:31:32,849 --> 00:31:34,349
All right?
329
00:31:38,104 --> 00:31:39,354
Rose?
330
00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:48,411
How are you? Are you all right?
331
00:31:48,489 --> 00:31:50,869
Is there somebody there?
Is somebody with you?
332
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:52,910
That's good.
333
00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:58,077
I'm all right.
I have some friends here, and it's...
334
00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:41,169
What's the crack on this
Insp. Stephens of CID?
335
00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:44,627
Stephens? Decent enough man.
336
00:32:45,421 --> 00:32:47,211
Is he handling the shooting?
337
00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:50,758
Yes. If he was one of my detectives,
he'd be back in uniform.
338
00:32:50,843 --> 00:32:51,843
Why?
339
00:32:51,928 --> 00:32:55,428
Three hours after the shooting,
the RUC issued a statement.
340
00:32:55,682 --> 00:32:57,272
It was fabricated.
341
00:32:57,850 --> 00:33:00,640
- Maybe they had a reason?
- No resistance was offered.
342
00:33:00,728 --> 00:33:04,188
The weapon found in the car
clearly didn't belong there.
343
00:33:04,357 --> 00:33:06,937
Forensic showed that
the shot that killed the Yank...
344
00:33:07,026 --> 00:33:11,146
...was fired at two meters.
The trajectory was wrong.
345
00:33:12,198 --> 00:33:15,988
The officer that did the shooting
claims he shot at 25 feet.
346
00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:19,159
None of this was in the interim report.
347
00:33:19,706 --> 00:33:23,786
What if there were witnesses,
and it comes out at the inquest?
348
00:33:23,876 --> 00:33:26,286
You know as well as I
how long these things take.
349
00:33:26,379 --> 00:33:29,209
I know of two cases:
One seven years ago, the other was five.
350
00:33:29,298 --> 00:33:32,508
- There's still no inquest in either of them.
- This one's different.
351
00:33:32,593 --> 00:33:35,683
There's a lot of dead bodies
in Northern Ireland, Peter.
352
00:33:36,055 --> 00:33:40,425
Jack, you haven't been followin' the news.
Why the hell do you think I'm here?
353
00:33:40,643 --> 00:33:44,563
- A prominent American was involved.
- Brodie was hoping you'd do a snow job.
354
00:33:44,647 --> 00:33:46,147
Not a chance.
355
00:33:46,232 --> 00:33:48,192
Next to the Pope,
you're about to become...
356
00:33:48,276 --> 00:33:51,106
...the most unpopular man
in Northern Ireland.
357
00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:54,655
What you have to understand is
Special Branch control the whole thing.
358
00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:56,834
Why do you think I got out?
359
00:33:57,452 --> 00:34:01,292
As soon as my time was up,
I just grabbed my pension and ran.
360
00:34:02,999 --> 00:34:05,579
These three policemen involved
in the shooting...
361
00:34:06,002 --> 00:34:09,002
- Cowboys, not policemen.
- Tell me about them.
362
00:34:09,756 --> 00:34:13,376
Members of an antiterrorist squad,
operating undercover.
363
00:34:13,468 --> 00:34:15,678
SSU, Special Support Unit...
364
00:34:16,137 --> 00:34:18,057
...code-named Echo 4 Alpha.
365
00:34:18,139 --> 00:34:20,599
- Answerable to whom?
- Don't ask.
366
00:34:21,017 --> 00:34:22,517
I have to know.
367
00:34:22,935 --> 00:34:25,475
I'm not saying
we shouldn't use them against the IRA...
368
00:34:25,563 --> 00:34:30,403
...but the fact is, they're out of control.
They're off the wire, trigger-happy.
369
00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:33,451
They go where they want,
do what they want.
370
00:34:33,529 --> 00:34:36,239
They shoot first, no questions asked.
371
00:34:37,116 --> 00:34:40,326
The other side don't play
by the rules either.
372
00:34:40,453 --> 00:34:41,913
We're not the IRA.
373
00:34:42,789 --> 00:34:45,249
Goin' back to these three policemen...
374
00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:47,793
If they were involved,
then it's a covert operation.
375
00:34:47,877 --> 00:34:50,627
- What about Special Branch?
- They are Special Branch.
376
00:34:50,713 --> 00:34:54,303
- Sanctioned by them?
- Or MI5 or Ml6.
377
00:34:55,093 --> 00:34:57,343
Take your pick.
We all piss in the same pot.
378
00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:03,600
If the British public knew
half of what goes on...
379
00:35:03,684 --> 00:35:06,774
...in Northern Ireland,
they wouldn't sleep in their beds.
380
00:35:06,854 --> 00:35:11,324
- I don't know what the answer is.
- Good night, Jack. Thanks.
381
00:35:11,567 --> 00:35:13,187
Do yourself a favour, Peter.
382
00:35:13,277 --> 00:35:15,737
I know it goes against the grain,
but toe the line.
383
00:35:15,822 --> 00:35:18,202
Give them what they want,
and get back to England.
384
00:35:18,282 --> 00:35:20,952
- We'll see.
- You're a pillock!
385
00:35:21,035 --> 00:35:22,285
Mind how you go.
386
00:35:22,411 --> 00:35:25,961
Nobody gives a shit
what happens in Northern Ireland.
387
00:36:37,361 --> 00:36:40,781
- What's wrong?
- I found this on the seat of my car.
388
00:36:41,741 --> 00:36:44,661
"The next bullet is for you
if you don't get out of Ireland.
389
00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:46,494
"Our day will come".
390
00:36:47,496 --> 00:36:48,826
IRA?
391
00:36:52,877 --> 00:36:54,837
It's a 9-millimeter.
392
00:36:54,921 --> 00:36:56,761
Walther PPK pistol.
393
00:36:58,591 --> 00:37:02,011
That's a weapon favoured by the cowboys
we talked about earlier.
394
00:37:03,137 --> 00:37:05,177
- Echo 4 Alpha?
- Yeah.
395
00:37:07,266 --> 00:37:08,676
So where are you taking me?
396
00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:12,058
It's one of ours, Peter.
397
00:37:13,397 --> 00:37:15,067
Excuse me. Hi.
398
00:37:16,776 --> 00:37:18,526
Good afternoon, Ms. Jessner.
399
00:37:18,945 --> 00:37:20,605
- Any further news yet?
- No, none.
400
00:37:20,696 --> 00:37:22,736
- What are your plans now?
- I have none...
401
00:37:22,823 --> 00:37:25,913
...and I don't want to say anything.
Please, now, thank you.
402
00:37:26,202 --> 00:37:27,412
- Ms. Jessner.
- Mr. Kerrigan.
403
00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:29,155
- Thank you for seeing me.
- Of course.
404
00:37:29,247 --> 00:37:31,247
Did you get in touch with Mrs. Molloy?
405
00:37:31,332 --> 00:37:33,792
Yes. She's expecting us.
406
00:37:34,585 --> 00:37:36,875
How are your skills as a navigator?
407
00:37:56,649 --> 00:37:58,279
This is Paradox.
408
00:37:59,318 --> 00:38:01,278
Subjects leaving location.
409
00:38:01,904 --> 00:38:03,664
Tabs on now, please.
410
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,580
Paul was murdered, Mr. Kerrigan.
411
00:38:14,166 --> 00:38:17,836
- Why would the police want to kill him?
- I don't know, but they did.
412
00:38:18,504 --> 00:38:21,054
- What proof do you have?
- None.
413
00:38:22,675 --> 00:38:25,175
But I do know what goes on here.
414
00:38:25,553 --> 00:38:29,563
Torture, paid informants,
roadside executions, death squads.
415
00:38:36,272 --> 00:38:39,942
Mr. Kerrigan,
when I was going through Paul's things...
416
00:38:40,026 --> 00:38:42,936
...I found something
I think might be important.
417
00:38:43,529 --> 00:38:45,239
It's an empty cassette box.
418
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:49,200
Paul was meticulous,
and I can't find that tape.
419
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:52,120
- Did you ask about it?
- I told the police.
420
00:38:52,204 --> 00:38:56,294
- And what did they say?
- They would look into it and call me back.
421
00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:58,460
- And did they?
- No.
422
00:38:59,712 --> 00:39:01,552
What was on the tape?
423
00:39:01,630 --> 00:39:05,300
I don't know,
but he was listening to it the night before.
424
00:39:11,807 --> 00:39:13,307
This is it.
425
00:39:17,605 --> 00:39:21,775
I also found this list of names.
426
00:39:21,859 --> 00:39:24,029
- Is this his writing?
- Yes.
427
00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:33,408
This is a pretty formidable group.
428
00:39:34,413 --> 00:39:37,503
Lord Randall, Alec Nevin,
Sir Gerald Binning...
429
00:39:40,169 --> 00:39:41,629
Why did he write these six names?
430
00:39:41,712 --> 00:39:43,962
- I don't know.
- Had he met them?
431
00:39:44,048 --> 00:39:46,048
No, not that I know of.
432
00:39:47,843 --> 00:39:49,763
Have you shown this to anyone else?
433
00:39:49,845 --> 00:39:52,965
No. Why, what do you think it is?
434
00:39:53,265 --> 00:39:55,175
What do you think?
435
00:39:56,268 --> 00:39:58,898
Could be people targeted, hit list.
436
00:40:01,148 --> 00:40:05,278
- I'm not saying it is, but...
- Paul was not involved with terrorists.
437
00:40:05,361 --> 00:40:07,241
Perhaps innocently.
438
00:40:07,446 --> 00:40:10,776
- Maybe he was being used.
- He was too smart to be manipulated.
439
00:40:10,866 --> 00:40:12,866
He was a good lawyer.
He thought like one.
440
00:40:12,952 --> 00:40:14,912
Then why did he write down
these six names?
441
00:40:14,995 --> 00:40:18,575
And why did he leave the hotel
at 5:00 in the morning, leaving you?
442
00:40:19,208 --> 00:40:21,418
What was he doing
driving around Dungannon...
443
00:40:21,502 --> 00:40:23,922
...with a fringe member of the IRA?
444
00:40:25,214 --> 00:40:27,594
He must have been mixed up in something.
445
00:40:28,384 --> 00:40:31,014
Mrs. Molloy, is this Frank's father?
446
00:40:31,095 --> 00:40:33,635
- That's his father.
- Who's that?
447
00:40:33,722 --> 00:40:38,642
Them's his friends, lifelong friends.
Theyjust can't believe it either.
448
00:40:40,229 --> 00:40:45,109
Those were taken on holiday.
It was the last holiday we had.
449
00:40:47,570 --> 00:40:50,110
Have you a religion, Mr. Kerrigan?
450
00:40:51,198 --> 00:40:52,618
Catholic.
451
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:56,370
In the heel of the hunt,
we'll all be answerable to God.
452
00:40:56,662 --> 00:40:59,542
I curse the bloody day
we ever came back here.
453
00:40:59,623 --> 00:41:01,123
Why did you?
454
00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:05,589
No choice. He was workin'
for the Ministry of Defense in London.
455
00:41:05,921 --> 00:41:08,471
Some bright spark
sent him on this course.
456
00:41:08,549 --> 00:41:10,759
Then he was transferred over here.
457
00:41:10,843 --> 00:41:13,093
What kind of work did he do?
458
00:41:13,512 --> 00:41:15,352
It came under the army...
459
00:41:15,598 --> 00:41:18,678
...to do with education
and publishing things.
460
00:41:19,685 --> 00:41:23,305
To tell you the truth,
he never talked much about it...
461
00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:25,361
...but he wasn't happy.
462
00:41:25,441 --> 00:41:27,321
That's why he left?
463
00:41:28,027 --> 00:41:31,647
Under a cloud.
Said he couldn't stomach it anymore.
464
00:41:32,615 --> 00:41:34,815
Can I take a look at these?
465
00:41:37,036 --> 00:41:40,036
- Who's that?
- That's Grace's weddin'.
466
00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:43,961
- It's your daughter?
- That was a beautiful day.
467
00:41:44,043 --> 00:41:45,963
She looks wonderful.
468
00:41:46,670 --> 00:41:47,960
Mrs. Molloy...
469
00:41:50,216 --> 00:41:52,676
Did your husband ever mention
Paul to you?
470
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:53,970
No.
471
00:41:55,137 --> 00:41:57,927
They must have known each other, though,
don't you think?
472
00:41:58,015 --> 00:42:01,095
They must've.
But I never heard Frank mention him.
473
00:42:01,435 --> 00:42:03,805
You were telling us earlier...
474
00:42:04,104 --> 00:42:06,524
...that the house was searched.
475
00:42:06,815 --> 00:42:08,725
Yes. Two days after.
476
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:12,449
Do you know who authorised it?
Was it the police?
477
00:42:12,696 --> 00:42:14,946
The big knock authorised it.
478
00:42:15,282 --> 00:42:19,492
1 :00 in the mornin',
you either open up, or your door goes in.
479
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,120
Did they question you?
480
00:42:22,331 --> 00:42:24,791
Asked me if I knew Capt. Harris.
481
00:42:25,459 --> 00:42:26,419
Capt. Harris?
482
00:42:26,877 --> 00:42:30,547
Frank's old boss.
Worked in a unit at Lisburn.
483
00:42:30,923 --> 00:42:34,013
- And what did you tell them?
- Told them the truth.
484
00:42:34,093 --> 00:42:36,723
The last time I saw Capt. Harris...
485
00:42:37,221 --> 00:42:38,351
...was at the weddin'.
486
00:42:38,764 --> 00:42:41,274
Did they find anything?
487
00:42:41,892 --> 00:42:45,232
They took away some papers
and all his cassette tapes.
488
00:42:45,312 --> 00:42:47,312
- Tapes?
- The lot.
489
00:42:48,065 --> 00:42:51,025
Capt. Harris, if he was at the wedding...
490
00:42:51,110 --> 00:42:53,700
...he might be in one of these photographs.
491
00:42:53,779 --> 00:42:55,739
You've just been looking at it.
492
00:42:55,823 --> 00:42:59,833
- This one?
- That's him, next to the groom.
493
00:43:02,288 --> 00:43:03,658
I know him.
494
00:43:03,872 --> 00:43:06,712
- You met him?
- No, I know his face.
495
00:43:08,252 --> 00:43:10,962
He was talking to Paul
at the Orange Parade.
496
00:43:12,006 --> 00:43:15,926
Here are the documents you
asked for, sir. -Thank you, Chief.
497
00:43:28,272 --> 00:43:30,982
Could you initial there, Mr. Maxwell?
498
00:43:38,490 --> 00:43:43,040
And you'll have to sign
the secured-documents book as well.
499
00:43:48,667 --> 00:43:51,917
And how did you get involved
in civil liberties?
500
00:43:53,047 --> 00:43:54,587
I was in Chile.
501
00:43:54,882 --> 00:43:56,922
I was doing some research...
502
00:43:57,009 --> 00:43:59,679
...for a TV documentary
called The Disappeared.
503
00:44:00,220 --> 00:44:03,510
It was about the victims of Pinochet
after the coup.
504
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:07,769
- Paul was there working for the League.
- When was that?
505
00:44:08,354 --> 00:44:09,814
1 975.
506
00:44:10,689 --> 00:44:13,819
There was a technical adviser
working with us...
507
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,820
...a young Chilean journalist.
508
00:44:17,321 --> 00:44:20,781
He disappeared one day
and I went to the League and Paul...
509
00:44:20,866 --> 00:44:24,156
...to see if they could find out
what happened to him.
510
00:44:26,538 --> 00:44:28,828
- And did they?
- No.
511
00:44:31,377 --> 00:44:34,207
It was a year before we found out
he'd been executed.
512
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,840
What happened to the film?
513
00:44:37,049 --> 00:44:40,179
- Never got made.
- Too controversial?
514
00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:41,550
Too honest, I think.
515
00:44:42,388 --> 00:44:45,428
It was about how Mr. Kissinger,
the CIA, and the Pentagon...
516
00:44:45,516 --> 00:44:48,226
...had made Chile safe for democracy.
517
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,900
So I quit TV and joined the League.
518
00:44:54,525 --> 00:44:56,605
Got to know Paul better.
519
00:44:59,321 --> 00:45:01,701
How about you? You have a wife?
520
00:45:01,782 --> 00:45:02,992
Yes.
521
00:45:03,492 --> 00:45:05,082
- Kids?
- Three.
522
00:45:05,828 --> 00:45:08,618
Two at university, one away at school.
523
00:45:08,789 --> 00:45:11,329
- See them much?
- Not as often as I'd like.
524
00:45:11,417 --> 00:45:14,747
May I have your attention, please?
Telephone call for Mr. Kerrigan.
525
00:45:14,837 --> 00:45:18,007
- Would a Mr. Kerrigan please...
- Excuse me.
526
00:45:18,090 --> 00:45:19,590
Thank you.
527
00:45:26,932 --> 00:45:28,102
Yes?
528
00:45:28,308 --> 00:45:31,598
It's Tom. I got that stuff on Harris,
what there is of it.
529
00:45:31,687 --> 00:45:32,847
Go ahead.
530
00:45:32,938 --> 00:45:37,318
The first name's James John.
Born Gateshead, 1 942.
531
00:45:37,609 --> 00:45:41,899
Religion, Protestant. Joined the
army, 1 960, as a private soldier.
532
00:45:42,114 --> 00:45:44,664
Promoted to the rank of lieutenant in '64.
533
00:45:45,325 --> 00:45:48,075
Doesn't say which mob. 1 971 ...
534
00:45:48,412 --> 00:45:49,582
...he attended a course...
535
00:45:49,663 --> 00:45:54,173
...at the United States Army
Special Warfare School at Fort Bragg.
536
00:45:54,418 --> 00:45:56,588
A year later, 1 972...
537
00:45:56,962 --> 00:46:01,592
...he was seconded to the
Psychological Warfare Unit...
538
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:02,840
...known as PSYOPS.
539
00:46:02,968 --> 00:46:05,338
- The same place Molloy went to.
- Right.
540
00:46:05,429 --> 00:46:09,389
In 1 973, he was sent to Northern Ireland
as a senior captain.
541
00:46:10,058 --> 00:46:14,978
That's it, apart from a list of postings
at various regiments.
542
00:46:15,105 --> 00:46:17,145
- Nothing else?
- Dead end.
543
00:46:17,316 --> 00:46:18,646
And since '73?
544
00:46:19,318 --> 00:46:21,648
- Classified.
- They told you that?
545
00:46:21,737 --> 00:46:23,907
With great emphasis.
The shutters came down.
546
00:46:31,163 --> 00:46:34,173
If there is a connection
between Paul's death and Harris...
547
00:46:34,249 --> 00:46:35,959
There has to be.
548
00:46:36,251 --> 00:46:38,631
Then I need to know more
about the background.
549
00:46:38,712 --> 00:46:40,962
Why not start with where he is?
550
00:46:41,048 --> 00:46:43,588
According to the colonel
I spoke to in Lisburn...
551
00:46:43,675 --> 00:46:46,175
...Harris is away on leave
and can't be traced.
552
00:46:48,180 --> 00:46:50,430
There was a hint
he may be suffering from stress.
553
00:46:50,516 --> 00:46:52,426
Do you believe that?
554
00:46:52,684 --> 00:46:53,854
No.
555
00:46:55,145 --> 00:46:56,395
Mr. Kerrigan...
556
00:46:57,189 --> 00:46:59,229
How far are you willing to go with this?
557
00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:01,190
If...
558
00:47:01,860 --> 00:47:03,900
...and it's still a big if...
559
00:47:03,987 --> 00:47:07,737
...but if Harris is, in any way,
connected with this shooting...
560
00:47:08,325 --> 00:47:10,905
...I don't care whose toes I tread on.
561
00:47:10,994 --> 00:47:15,334
He becomes part of the investigation,
no more, no less.
562
00:47:17,209 --> 00:47:18,999
- Okay?
- Okay.
563
00:47:20,504 --> 00:47:23,844
What it boils down to, Sergeant,
is that you're in deep trouble.
564
00:47:24,216 --> 00:47:27,466
You're in a shit storm,
and it's blowing around your ears.
565
00:47:27,553 --> 00:47:29,853
We're not just talking about
disciplinary charges.
566
00:47:29,930 --> 00:47:31,810
It goes beyond that.
567
00:47:31,890 --> 00:47:34,520
You could be facing a murder charge.
568
00:47:34,852 --> 00:47:37,442
This man Sullivan was
no run-of-the-mill Paddy...
569
00:47:37,521 --> 00:47:39,481
...you could just blow away.
570
00:47:39,565 --> 00:47:42,315
He was an American lawyer
with an international reputation.
571
00:47:42,401 --> 00:47:45,491
Now, there is no way
this will be brushed under the carpet.
572
00:47:47,072 --> 00:47:48,782
How old are you?
573
00:47:49,616 --> 00:47:50,776
37.
574
00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:54,950
- How long have you been on the force?
- Twelve years.
575
00:48:00,460 --> 00:48:03,800
Two years ago,
you shot dead a Republican in the Falls.
576
00:48:03,881 --> 00:48:07,171
- It was either him or me, sir.
- I'm not criticizing you, Sergeant.
577
00:48:07,259 --> 00:48:09,049
You should have been given
a commendation.
578
00:48:09,136 --> 00:48:11,676
- I was.
- I'm on your side.
579
00:48:13,932 --> 00:48:15,812
But if you go down for this...
580
00:48:16,602 --> 00:48:20,612
...how long do you think you'd last
in the Crumlin Road Prison?
581
00:48:25,569 --> 00:48:27,739
- You searched the bodies?
- Yes, sir.
582
00:48:27,821 --> 00:48:30,361
- Took away all personal effects?
- Yes, sir.
583
00:48:30,490 --> 00:48:32,740
Find anything interesting on Sullivan?
584
00:48:32,993 --> 00:48:37,753
Usual stuff: Wallet, money, ID card.
585
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:41,250
What about the tape he was carrying?
586
00:48:43,879 --> 00:48:45,919
There was no tape, sir.
587
00:48:47,549 --> 00:48:49,879
- Are you getting all this?
- Yes, sir.
588
00:48:49,968 --> 00:48:52,548
- Read out that last bit.
- From where?
589
00:48:52,638 --> 00:48:54,258
From me asking about the tape.
590
00:48:54,806 --> 00:48:59,556
"What about the tape he was carrying?"
"There was no tape, sir".
591
00:49:00,771 --> 00:49:02,811
Do you want me to leave it at that?
592
00:49:02,981 --> 00:49:06,571
It's up to you. You've already lied once
in your statement to the CID.
593
00:49:06,693 --> 00:49:11,033
- I'm bound by the Official Secrets Act.
- Not anymore, you're not.
594
00:49:12,157 --> 00:49:14,367
All constraints are lifted.
595
00:49:15,285 --> 00:49:18,495
You can wipe the slate clean
and tell me everything that happened...
596
00:49:18,580 --> 00:49:21,920
...and you might get off with a reprimand,
or you bury yourself deeper.
597
00:49:22,709 --> 00:49:24,499
So what's it gonna be?
598
00:49:32,678 --> 00:49:34,468
After the shooting...
599
00:49:35,722 --> 00:49:38,932
...we returned to the barracks
for the debriefing.
600
00:49:41,269 --> 00:49:42,979
We were told...
601
00:49:43,855 --> 00:49:46,605
...by a senior officer what to say.
602
00:49:48,026 --> 00:49:49,236
Name?
603
00:49:51,029 --> 00:49:52,659
Superintendent Fraser.
604
00:49:53,657 --> 00:49:55,867
He instructed you to lie to the CID?
605
00:49:55,993 --> 00:49:57,453
Yes, sir.
606
00:49:57,536 --> 00:50:00,536
He said it was to protect
our source of information.
607
00:50:00,622 --> 00:50:02,622
Do you know what that source was?
608
00:50:02,708 --> 00:50:04,828
No, sir. We were only told to intercept.
609
00:50:05,877 --> 00:50:08,497
Were you ordered to shoot on sight?
610
00:50:09,715 --> 00:50:11,665
Not in so many words.
611
00:50:12,551 --> 00:50:13,841
What does that mean?
612
00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:18,885
We were told that the two men in the car
were armed and dangerous...
613
00:50:18,974 --> 00:50:22,024
...and we mustn't take
any chances with them.
614
00:50:22,894 --> 00:50:25,154
How did you interpret that?
615
00:50:26,064 --> 00:50:28,984
I got the feeling that we were
being given clear signals...
616
00:50:29,067 --> 00:50:33,067
...to bring them back dead or alive,
and there'd be no questions asked.
617
00:50:33,905 --> 00:50:36,195
Now, tell me about the tape.
618
00:50:38,035 --> 00:50:40,285
We took it from the American.
619
00:50:40,370 --> 00:50:41,660
Go on.
620
00:50:42,581 --> 00:50:44,791
When we got back to the barracks...
621
00:50:45,417 --> 00:50:47,417
...Mr. Fraser was there to meet us.
622
00:50:47,502 --> 00:50:49,632
And there was someone else
along with him.
623
00:50:49,713 --> 00:50:52,923
- A police officer?
- More like Special Branch.
624
00:50:53,258 --> 00:50:55,838
- What was his name?
- I don't know.
625
00:50:55,927 --> 00:50:57,297
But he seemed to be in charge.
626
00:50:58,847 --> 00:51:00,767
Can you describe him?
627
00:51:01,266 --> 00:51:02,676
English...
628
00:51:03,602 --> 00:51:04,892
...tall...
629
00:51:05,562 --> 00:51:07,272
...thinning on top...
630
00:51:07,939 --> 00:51:09,519
...age, about 40.
631
00:51:11,568 --> 00:51:13,318
So what happened?
632
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:18,620
The first thing the tall man asked about
was the tape.
633
00:51:19,993 --> 00:51:22,413
- Which he took with him?
- Yes, sir.
634
00:51:22,954 --> 00:51:26,754
Have you any idea what was
on the tape? -Not a clue, sir.
635
00:51:30,128 --> 00:51:31,418
Okay.
636
00:51:32,923 --> 00:51:36,513
We'll just run through it again.
Then you can sign it.
637
00:51:40,847 --> 00:51:43,017
Do you have his statement?
638
00:51:46,978 --> 00:51:48,438
Here. Now.
639
00:51:49,147 --> 00:51:52,777
The senior officer that did the debriefing,
Superintendent Fraser, yeah...
640
00:51:52,859 --> 00:51:55,189
...I want to see him today.
641
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,400
What do you think?
642
00:51:56,488 --> 00:51:59,158
I think it's time
I had a word with Mr. Brodie...
643
00:51:59,241 --> 00:52:03,621
...after I've interviewed Fraser.
There's something else I want you to do.
644
00:52:03,954 --> 00:52:07,374
Before he left the hotel,
Sullivan wrote a list of names.
645
00:52:07,457 --> 00:52:09,577
I want you to check them.
646
00:52:09,918 --> 00:52:13,798
The connection is obvious.
Famous punters, what have you.
647
00:52:14,673 --> 00:52:17,093
I want something more specific.
648
00:52:17,634 --> 00:52:21,264
- Has Brodie seen this?
- No. We'll keep it in the family.
649
00:52:27,853 --> 00:52:29,273
538, please.
650
00:52:32,816 --> 00:52:35,986
Here's your key,
and there's a message for you as well.
651
00:54:00,403 --> 00:54:03,113
- Hiya. Come on in.
- Thanks.
652
00:54:12,332 --> 00:54:13,502
Hey.
653
00:54:14,918 --> 00:54:16,788
- Kevin.
- Here you are.
654
00:54:17,545 --> 00:54:18,915
Thanks.
655
00:54:19,172 --> 00:54:22,592
Look, I was really sorry
to hear about Mr. Sullivan.
656
00:54:22,968 --> 00:54:24,338
Thanks.
657
00:54:27,472 --> 00:54:28,932
Do you smoke?
658
00:54:29,015 --> 00:54:32,475
- Here.
- Yes. Thanks.
659
00:54:33,436 --> 00:54:36,106
- So is it just you and Kevin?
- Yeah.
660
00:54:36,648 --> 00:54:39,358
His dad's doing 1 2 years in the Kesh.
661
00:54:40,819 --> 00:54:41,649
What for?
662
00:54:42,445 --> 00:54:45,275
Possession of arms and IRA membership.
663
00:54:45,615 --> 00:54:49,365
He was doing a punishment for the IRA
on some local gangsters...
664
00:54:49,452 --> 00:54:54,002
...who were robbin' their own community,
and he got caught by the RUC.
665
00:54:54,624 --> 00:54:57,584
Just like him.
He never did have much luck.
666
00:54:59,170 --> 00:55:03,130
So you said in your note
that you might have some information.
667
00:55:03,425 --> 00:55:05,715
I'm just delivering a message.
668
00:55:06,469 --> 00:55:09,809
Harris wants to meet you
and the policeman Kerrigan.
669
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,600
- When?
- Tomorrow night.
670
00:55:14,185 --> 00:55:17,595
Look, after what's happened,
can you trust Kerrigan?
671
00:55:18,481 --> 00:55:23,361
- Yeah, I trust him. I think he's different.
- Anyway, Harris wants him there.
672
00:55:24,404 --> 00:55:28,034
You're to meet at a Republican club
off Falls Road. I have the address.
673
00:55:28,825 --> 00:55:30,905
Will Kerrigan be safe in a Republican club?
674
00:55:30,994 --> 00:55:34,164
He'll be safe as long as you're with him.
675
00:55:34,748 --> 00:55:37,878
I'll get you that photograph
I told you about.
676
00:55:40,128 --> 00:55:41,628
This is it.
677
00:55:43,423 --> 00:55:45,763
He's an officer in the SAS.
678
00:55:46,551 --> 00:55:49,181
He led a killer squad across the border.
679
00:55:49,262 --> 00:55:51,682
That's where this photograph was taken.
680
00:56:00,231 --> 00:56:03,151
Is there anything
in Sgt. Kennedy's statement...
681
00:56:03,234 --> 00:56:05,994
...you disagree with, Superintendent?
682
00:56:06,905 --> 00:56:08,275
No, sir.
683
00:56:08,573 --> 00:56:12,033
He says that you instructed
him to lie to the CID...
684
00:56:12,619 --> 00:56:16,039
...about the shooting of Paul Sullivan
and Frank Molloy. Is this true?
685
00:56:17,624 --> 00:56:19,634
It was to protect our source of information.
686
00:56:19,709 --> 00:56:23,049
- Can you tell me what that source was?
- That's classified information.
687
00:56:23,129 --> 00:56:26,379
- On whose orders?
- On the orders of Mr. Brodie.
688
00:56:29,761 --> 00:56:33,511
When your men returned to the barracks,
they were given a debriefing.
689
00:56:33,765 --> 00:56:36,265
Were they given a cover-up story?
690
00:56:37,268 --> 00:56:39,478
Certain evidence was withheld, yes.
691
00:56:39,562 --> 00:56:43,362
A dress rehearsal,
so they could decide what to tell the CID?
692
00:56:44,859 --> 00:56:46,649
- Yes, sir.
- By you?
693
00:56:47,821 --> 00:56:50,701
Yes, sir, but I was acting under orders.
694
00:56:53,660 --> 00:56:55,580
This Englishman...
695
00:56:57,288 --> 00:56:59,918
...tall, thinning hair, about 40...
696
00:57:00,708 --> 00:57:03,038
...who took the tape, who is he?
697
00:57:04,212 --> 00:57:06,802
- Don't know, sir.
- Have you seen him before?
698
00:57:09,217 --> 00:57:11,337
Once, with Mr. Brodie.
699
00:57:11,678 --> 00:57:12,968
Where?
700
00:57:14,264 --> 00:57:16,274
Here, in this building.
701
00:57:16,933 --> 00:57:20,733
- Did he show you his authority?
- No, sir.
702
00:57:21,938 --> 00:57:24,608
He just walked in and took the tape?
703
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,280
I received a phone call from Mr. Brodie.
704
00:57:28,945 --> 00:57:30,525
He told you to give it to him?
705
00:57:32,031 --> 00:57:33,451
Yes, sir.
706
00:57:35,827 --> 00:57:38,327
- Would you mind if I smoke, sir?
- Yes, I do.
707
00:57:55,889 --> 00:57:57,389
Go!
708
00:57:57,891 --> 00:57:59,141
Move! Move it!
709
00:57:59,476 --> 00:58:01,476
Get out of here!
710
00:58:02,562 --> 00:58:05,482
- Police!
- Get out of my house!
711
00:58:07,192 --> 00:58:10,532
- There's nobody in there! Just get out!
- Get inside, get in there.
712
00:58:10,612 --> 00:58:13,862
What do you want? My baby's in there.
Don't let them go in there!
713
00:58:13,948 --> 00:58:16,328
I'm arresting you under
the Emergency Provisions Act.
714
00:58:16,409 --> 00:58:19,289
- Get your clothes on now!
- What are they doing?
715
00:58:19,370 --> 00:58:20,830
My baby's in the other room.
716
00:58:20,914 --> 00:58:23,464
Okay, that's too bad. Get your clothes on!
717
00:58:23,541 --> 00:58:26,251
- No! What are you arresting me for?
- Get your clothes on.
718
00:58:26,336 --> 00:58:29,586
- I'm arresting you under Section 1 1 !
- I haven't done anything!
719
00:58:29,672 --> 00:58:33,262
- We'll see about that!
- Will you, now? I'm going nowhere!
720
00:58:33,343 --> 00:58:35,513
Tell him to get out of there!
My baby's in there!
721
00:58:35,595 --> 00:58:38,555
- Get your clothes on now!
- I'm putting no clothes on!
722
00:58:42,227 --> 00:58:44,557
Get off!
723
00:58:44,646 --> 00:58:47,016
- You bitch!
- Get off!
724
00:58:49,859 --> 00:58:52,859
- Get off me!
- Just calm down!
725
00:58:52,946 --> 00:58:54,986
I'm going nowhere
until I've seen a solicitor!
726
00:58:55,073 --> 00:58:58,833
- Just calm down! Open the door, Sam.
- What about my baby next door?
727
00:58:59,077 --> 00:59:01,407
Open that door. We're going downtown.
728
00:59:01,996 --> 00:59:04,326
- I'm going nowhere!
- Hold her!
729
00:59:12,966 --> 00:59:16,216
- Has Brodie's office returned my call yet?
- No.
730
00:59:17,262 --> 00:59:18,892
Try again now.
731
00:59:25,728 --> 00:59:27,438
Mr. Kerrigan's secretary.
732
00:59:27,522 --> 00:59:30,942
Did you set up that appointment
with Mr. Brodie yet?
733
00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:34,569
Why not?
I've been trying since 1 2:00 yesterday.
734
00:59:36,739 --> 00:59:38,949
Excuse me. He can't meet you today.
735
00:59:39,033 --> 00:59:42,243
- He has an official engagement.
- Playing games.
736
00:59:43,371 --> 00:59:45,001
Find out when he's leaving.
737
00:59:46,291 --> 00:59:48,381
Is Mr. Brodie there now?
738
00:59:49,377 --> 00:59:52,127
What time's his appointment? Thank you.
739
00:59:52,797 --> 00:59:54,207
He's there until 2:30.
740
01:00:06,603 --> 01:00:09,863
Two statements:
Fraser's and Sgt. Kennedy's.
741
01:00:09,939 --> 01:00:13,109
- I'd like to see them.
- They'll be in my report.
742
01:00:13,276 --> 01:00:15,646
- And now you want to question me?
- Interview you.
743
01:00:15,737 --> 01:00:18,607
- Make an appointment.
- All right. When?
744
01:00:19,073 --> 01:00:22,283
- At my convenience.
- Will you get off your fuckin' high horse?
745
01:00:22,910 --> 01:00:25,910
I don't ask your cooperation! I demand it!
746
01:00:27,874 --> 01:00:31,594
- What is it you want?
- Everything, chapter and verse.
747
01:00:32,503 --> 01:00:34,673
- That might not be possible.
- Why not?
748
01:00:34,964 --> 01:00:37,094
Give me your question,
and please try to hurry.
749
01:00:37,175 --> 01:00:39,635
I've got another funeral to attend.
750
01:00:39,719 --> 01:00:43,809
Both Superintendent Fraser and
Sgt. Kennedy admit there was a cover-up.
751
01:00:45,099 --> 01:00:48,099
- Fraser says you ordered it.
- Classified.
752
01:00:48,186 --> 01:00:49,516
Then the buck stops here?
753
01:00:49,646 --> 01:00:52,266
- It's classified.
- I can't accept that.
754
01:00:52,357 --> 01:00:55,227
Then put that in your report, too.
Next question.
755
01:00:55,777 --> 01:00:57,067
- He says...
- Who says?
756
01:00:57,153 --> 01:01:01,623
Fraser says
it was in order to protect the source.
757
01:01:02,033 --> 01:01:04,913
- That's acceptable.
- Not to me, it isn't.
758
01:01:04,994 --> 01:01:07,204
That's because
you have been meddling in things...
759
01:01:07,330 --> 01:01:11,540
Meddling? I am conducting
an investigation, for Christ's Sake!
760
01:01:12,794 --> 01:01:15,054
Cover-up stories are used
to protect informants...
761
01:01:15,129 --> 01:01:17,759
...whose lives might be endangered.
762
01:01:18,007 --> 01:01:19,217
Look.
763
01:01:19,384 --> 01:01:23,354
The last thing I want to do
is to probe into sensitive areas.
764
01:01:23,805 --> 01:01:26,215
But these civil-liberties people
are organised.
765
01:01:26,307 --> 01:01:29,177
They're sending over a lawyer
from the States for the inquest.
766
01:01:29,268 --> 01:01:30,268
So?
767
01:01:30,353 --> 01:01:32,943
They'll make mincemeat out of you.
They'll ask questions.
768
01:01:33,022 --> 01:01:35,022
I've got a couple questions of my own.
769
01:01:35,566 --> 01:01:37,146
There was no roadblock.
770
01:01:37,235 --> 01:01:39,775
No witnesses were questioned,
no resistance offered.
771
01:01:39,862 --> 01:01:42,032
The weapon found in the car
had no fingerprints.
772
01:01:42,115 --> 01:01:44,275
Forensic showed
the shot that killed Sullivan...
773
01:01:44,367 --> 01:01:48,657
...was fired at a distance of two meters
after the car had crashed.
774
01:01:48,788 --> 01:01:51,118
The officers involved
were acting on the assumption...
775
01:01:51,207 --> 01:01:53,327
...that both men
were armed and dangerous.
776
01:01:53,418 --> 01:01:54,838
Prove it.
777
01:01:56,587 --> 01:02:00,127
What was Sullivan doing in Dungannon
at 5:00 in the morning with Molloy?
778
01:02:00,216 --> 01:02:01,626
Was there a warrant out for them?
779
01:02:01,718 --> 01:02:04,048
- No, there wasn't.
- Then you've no case.
780
01:02:04,137 --> 01:02:07,057
There's no law against
two men deciding to go out for a drive.
781
01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:10,140
When that comes out in court,
your cover story will be blown...
782
01:02:10,226 --> 01:02:13,396
...because neither Kennedy nor Fraser
are prepared to carry the can.
783
01:02:13,479 --> 01:02:16,059
- That's for the DPP to decide.
- Will he have a choice?
784
01:02:16,149 --> 01:02:19,859
When that lawyer gets him at the inquest,
he'll squeeze him like toothpaste.
785
01:02:19,944 --> 01:02:22,994
Do you think I give a shit
about a smart-arsed American lawyer?
786
01:02:23,072 --> 01:02:24,952
I would, if I were you!
787
01:02:25,032 --> 01:02:29,662
Yes. The RUC do run covert operations,
but so do the IRA!
788
01:02:29,871 --> 01:02:33,461
If you want to bring home the bacon,
you first of all have to kill the pig.
789
01:02:34,584 --> 01:02:36,714
Now, if you will excuse me...
790
01:02:37,128 --> 01:02:40,048
...three of our young men
are being buried this morning.
791
01:02:40,131 --> 01:02:41,881
Blown up by a land mine.
792
01:02:44,844 --> 01:02:46,434
I have more questions.
793
01:02:46,512 --> 01:02:49,012
Two of them were married
with young children.
794
01:02:49,098 --> 01:02:50,848
I want that tape.
795
01:02:52,894 --> 01:02:54,064
What tape?
796
01:02:54,187 --> 01:02:57,897
The tape they found on Sullivan's body
and brought back to Gough Barracks.
797
01:02:58,649 --> 01:02:59,939
This Fraser again?
798
01:03:00,026 --> 01:03:01,986
And Kennedy.
It's in both their statements.
799
01:03:02,069 --> 01:03:04,239
- I don't have the tape.
- But you know who does.
800
01:03:04,322 --> 01:03:07,412
- Classified information.
- "Classified" bullshit!
801
01:03:07,700 --> 01:03:11,870
What the fuck are you people runnin'
here? Your own private shooting war?
802
01:03:11,954 --> 01:03:13,874
Checks and balances, Mr. Kerrigan.
803
01:03:13,956 --> 01:03:16,206
Between the jigs and the reels,
we are winning.
804
01:03:16,292 --> 01:03:19,132
And innocent lives are being saved
as a result!
805
01:03:19,962 --> 01:03:22,802
The source you wish to protect
is Army Intelligence.
806
01:03:22,965 --> 01:03:24,335
Am I right?
807
01:03:27,303 --> 01:03:29,473
- What did you say?
- I'll say it again quickly.
808
01:03:29,597 --> 01:03:31,597
Molloy and Sullivan
were killed for that tape...
809
01:03:31,682 --> 01:03:35,232
...and Army Intelligence, MI5, Ml6,
call it what you want, are involved...
810
01:03:35,311 --> 01:03:38,361
...and I want to know why, Mr. Brodie.
811
01:03:38,773 --> 01:03:41,233
- Then take it up with them.
- You ordered it.
812
01:03:41,317 --> 01:03:44,237
My participation was limited
to policing the operation.
813
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,990
- That will sound wonderful in court.
- What court?
814
01:03:47,114 --> 01:03:49,284
There will be accounting.
Charges will be made.
815
01:03:49,367 --> 01:03:51,617
- By you?
- I'll recommend it in my report.
816
01:03:51,744 --> 01:03:53,914
Which I shall take
to the DPP for him to decide.
817
01:03:53,996 --> 01:03:55,286
- It won't work.
- What won't?
818
01:03:55,373 --> 01:03:57,463
Not at my expense, it won't.
819
01:03:57,708 --> 01:04:01,998
My God, you're catchin' the Irish disease.
You're gettin' paranoid.
820
01:04:02,296 --> 01:04:05,126
If necessary,
I'm prepared to resign over this...
821
01:04:05,216 --> 01:04:08,006
...and start telling tales out of school.
822
01:04:08,094 --> 01:04:11,814
I don't think you will.
You're a career officer like me.
823
01:04:12,890 --> 01:04:15,560
- I mean it.
- You'd resign the force and go public?
824
01:04:15,643 --> 01:04:17,233
If I have to.
825
01:04:17,728 --> 01:04:21,568
Listen, we're both professionals.
We observe certain rules.
826
01:04:21,774 --> 01:04:23,654
Then understand.
827
01:04:23,901 --> 01:04:25,571
Without access to that tape...
828
01:04:25,653 --> 01:04:28,783
...it is impossible for me
to evaluate the evidence.
829
01:04:28,865 --> 01:04:33,575
I'm afraid I can't help you there.
I have neither seen nor heard that tape.
830
01:04:33,744 --> 01:04:37,874
And frankly, I don't want the burden.
Now, if you will excuse me.
831
01:04:41,752 --> 01:04:43,342
Who's Harris?
832
01:04:44,922 --> 01:04:46,262
Harris?
833
01:04:46,757 --> 01:04:48,837
I've never heard of him.
834
01:04:53,514 --> 01:04:57,274
Ms. McKechnie, will you show Mr. Kerrigan
out of my office, please?
835
01:05:12,491 --> 01:05:15,081
I wonder what Harris'
connection with the Provos is?
836
01:05:15,369 --> 01:05:18,409
- Why do you think he has one?
- Why else meet in an IRA club?
837
01:05:18,539 --> 01:05:20,619
- It's a Republican club.
- Same difference.
838
01:05:20,708 --> 01:05:23,418
Not every Republican supports the IRA.
839
01:05:23,794 --> 01:05:27,094
Let's hope you're right.
I could be putting my head in a noose.
840
01:05:27,173 --> 01:05:29,343
I don't think you have to worry.
841
01:05:29,467 --> 01:05:32,217
You can count on the IRA to be predictable.
842
01:05:32,303 --> 01:05:34,763
Yes. They shoot policemen.
843
01:05:53,658 --> 01:05:55,618
Did you lock the door?
844
01:06:19,475 --> 01:06:21,635
- Are you lookin' for someone?
- Teresa Doyle.
845
01:06:21,727 --> 01:06:23,937
- You have to be signed in by a member.
- Pardon?
846
01:06:24,021 --> 01:06:28,111
- You have to be signed in by a member.
- That's why I'm waiting for her to come.
847
01:06:28,192 --> 01:06:32,782
It's okay, Danny. I know these people.
I take full responsibility for them.
848
01:06:32,863 --> 01:06:35,203
Welcome to
the James Connolly Republican Club.
849
01:06:35,282 --> 01:06:38,282
I'm Liam Philbin, Sinn Fein rep for this area
and club secretary.
850
01:06:38,369 --> 01:06:39,579
Ingrid Jessner.
851
01:06:39,662 --> 01:06:41,122
Hello. Peter Kerrigan.
852
01:06:41,956 --> 01:06:44,076
- Got here okay, then?
- Yeah, fine, thanks.
853
01:06:44,166 --> 01:06:47,126
Would you like to buy a football ticket?
Football ticket.
854
01:06:47,461 --> 01:06:48,841
Never misses a trick.
855
01:06:48,921 --> 01:06:51,341
- Fifty pence.
- Four.
856
01:06:52,133 --> 01:06:53,173
Thank you.
857
01:06:55,177 --> 01:06:58,887
Congratulations. You've just contributed
to a fund for Republican prisoners.
858
01:06:58,973 --> 01:06:59,933
Thank you very much.
859
01:07:00,016 --> 01:07:02,176
- Here's a present.
- Down to you.
860
01:07:02,268 --> 01:07:04,728
- Shall we go in?
- Sure. Is Teresa here?
861
01:07:04,812 --> 01:07:07,612
- No, Teresa got lifted on Monday.
- Lifted? What for?
862
01:07:07,690 --> 01:07:10,230
Harassment. Happens all the time.
863
01:07:10,693 --> 01:07:12,073
- Is she all right?
- She's okay.
864
01:07:12,153 --> 01:07:14,783
- And the baby?
- They're being looked after.
865
01:07:14,864 --> 01:07:16,994
"In the Maidstone and the Maze
866
01:07:17,366 --> 01:07:21,156
"I thought about my land
throughout these days
867
01:07:21,954 --> 01:07:24,544
"Why my country was divided
868
01:07:24,832 --> 01:07:27,212
"Why I was now in jail
869
01:07:27,501 --> 01:07:31,131
"Imprisoned without crime or without trial
870
01:07:32,506 --> 01:07:37,216
"And now I love my country
I am not a bitter man
871
01:07:37,470 --> 01:07:41,470
"I've seen cruelty and injustice at first hand
872
01:07:43,309 --> 01:07:47,979
"And then one fateful mornin'
I shook bold freedom's hand
873
01:07:48,355 --> 01:07:51,605
"For right or wrong, I tried to free my land
874
01:07:53,069 --> 01:07:57,989
"And you dare call me a terrorist
while you look down your gun
875
01:07:58,199 --> 01:08:01,949
"When I think of all the deeds
that you have done
876
01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:07,869
"You have plundered many nations,
divided many lands
877
01:08:08,125 --> 01:08:12,915
"You have terrorised their people
You've ruled with an iron hand
878
01:08:13,089 --> 01:08:17,009
"And you've brought this reign of terror
to my land
879
01:08:18,552 --> 01:08:23,262
"And you dare call me a terrorist
while you look down your gun
880
01:08:23,641 --> 01:08:27,521
"When I think of all the deeds
that you have done
881
01:08:28,604 --> 01:08:33,274
"You have plundered many nations,
divided many lands
882
01:08:33,442 --> 01:08:38,362
"You have terrorised their people
You've ruled with an iron hand
883
01:08:38,656 --> 01:08:42,576
"And you've brought this reign of terror
to my land
884
01:08:44,078 --> 01:08:48,958
"You've brought this reign of terror
to my land"
885
01:08:50,292 --> 01:08:51,752
Thank you.
886
01:08:57,967 --> 01:09:00,547
Jimmy here's gonna do the next one.
887
01:09:03,305 --> 01:09:05,845
On the wall,
you see a picture of James Connolly...
888
01:09:05,933 --> 01:09:07,853
...one of our greatest-ever Irish leaders.
889
01:09:08,144 --> 01:09:11,904
Connolly said, many years ago,
that England has no more moral right...
890
01:09:12,231 --> 01:09:13,901
...to administer Irish affairs...
891
01:09:13,983 --> 01:09:16,993
...than it has to administer the affairs
of America or Japan.
892
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:21,449
No more moral right to police us
than it has a moral right to shoot us.
893
01:09:21,532 --> 01:09:23,532
That is the answer: British withdrawal.
894
01:09:23,659 --> 01:09:24,989
That's the answer...
895
01:09:25,828 --> 01:09:29,538
...but innocent people have been killed.
896
01:09:29,623 --> 01:09:33,213
Yes, innocent people have been killed
and are being killed.
897
01:09:33,335 --> 01:09:36,295
But if you look at all the colonies,
for instance, America.
898
01:09:36,380 --> 01:09:38,840
George Washington was called a terrorist
in his time.
899
01:09:38,924 --> 01:09:43,054
Jomo Kenyatta was a terrorist.
Archbishop Makarios was a terrorist.
900
01:09:43,137 --> 01:09:46,757
Unfortunately, colonies appear
to have to fight for their freedom.
901
01:09:46,891 --> 01:09:49,481
It is never granted willingly.
They must struggle for it.
902
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:50,890
Liam...
903
01:09:51,353 --> 01:09:54,113
Do you know why Paul
was with Mr. Molloy that morning?
904
01:09:54,190 --> 01:09:57,650
Yes. Molloy was taking him
to meet Harris, in fact.
905
01:09:57,735 --> 01:09:59,815
- Where?
- At a safe house.
906
01:10:00,196 --> 01:10:01,276
That you provided?
907
01:10:01,363 --> 01:10:05,123
- Yes. Our interests coincided.
- In what way?
908
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,750
Let's just say that our enemies
became his enemies.
909
01:10:09,121 --> 01:10:11,001
Where is he, Liam?
910
01:10:11,207 --> 01:10:15,337
He's out the back here, waitin' for you.
If you like, we'll go now and see him.
911
01:10:15,419 --> 01:10:17,669
- Yes.
- Good, then. Come on.
912
01:10:24,678 --> 01:10:26,798
"Gloucester's crumbling
pushed us westward
913
01:10:26,889 --> 01:10:30,179
"To liberate all the Irish
Some of us that came to fight
914
01:10:30,267 --> 01:10:32,687
"From Tipperary mountainside"
915
01:10:36,857 --> 01:10:38,267
Here's your visitors now.
916
01:10:39,318 --> 01:10:42,148
- Thank you, Liam.
- Okay. I'll leave you to it.
917
01:10:42,238 --> 01:10:43,488
Thank you.
918
01:10:44,198 --> 01:10:46,318
- Harris?
- Yes.
919
01:10:47,451 --> 01:10:51,041
- How much has Liam told you?
- Only that Molloy brought you here...
920
01:10:51,163 --> 01:10:54,173
...and that you were sheltered by the IRA.
921
01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:57,670
- And you find that reprehensible?
- For Molloy? No.
922
01:10:57,962 --> 01:10:59,752
No. He has his loyalties.
923
01:10:59,838 --> 01:11:03,968
But for you,
an officer serving in the British Army, yes.
924
01:11:09,765 --> 01:11:12,555
I am terribly sorry about what happened.
925
01:11:12,643 --> 01:11:14,943
I really didn't think they'd go that far.
926
01:11:15,813 --> 01:11:18,153
Why did you want to see Paul?
927
01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:22,190
- I gave him a tape. Didn't you know that?
- Not till later.
928
01:11:24,405 --> 01:11:26,065
Coming here could cost me my life.
929
01:11:26,156 --> 01:11:30,326
Mine, too, but unlike you,
I don't have the IRA to protect me.
930
01:11:30,452 --> 01:11:32,662
I gave the IRA nothing.
931
01:11:49,805 --> 01:11:52,885
I was an Army Intelligence officer
co-opted to work with Ml6...
932
01:11:52,975 --> 01:11:54,675
...and MI5 when they took over.
933
01:11:54,810 --> 01:11:56,190
PSYOPS.
934
01:11:56,645 --> 01:11:59,725
Our cover name was
"Information Policy Unit".
935
01:12:00,232 --> 01:12:03,402
Our official function was
to liaise with the press...
936
01:12:03,485 --> 01:12:06,525
...and prepare public relations programs.
937
01:12:07,197 --> 01:12:08,817
And unofficial?
938
01:12:09,408 --> 01:12:11,238
We had our own printing press.
939
01:12:11,327 --> 01:12:14,907
We'd forge documents
attributed to Republican sources.
940
01:12:15,205 --> 01:12:19,205
We'd provide material for the media:
Newspapers, magazines, television.
941
01:12:19,293 --> 01:12:20,883
- Black propaganda?
- Yes.
942
01:12:20,961 --> 01:12:22,961
What kind of material?
943
01:12:23,797 --> 01:12:26,257
Whatever we thought was necessary.
944
01:12:26,342 --> 01:12:29,682
We'd invent stories, leak truths, leak lies...
945
01:12:30,179 --> 01:12:31,389
...leak half-truths.
946
01:12:31,847 --> 01:12:34,267
Accountable to the politicians.
947
01:12:36,060 --> 01:12:38,690
Let us get one thing straight, Kerrigan.
948
01:12:38,896 --> 01:12:41,056
We were accountable to no one.
949
01:12:41,148 --> 01:12:45,228
The Prime Minister, Parliament, the courts,
the great British public...
950
01:12:45,319 --> 01:12:49,239
It made no difference.
They were all there to be manipulated.
951
01:12:49,531 --> 01:12:53,491
- And that didn't bother you?
- Not against the IRA, it didn't.
952
01:12:54,495 --> 01:12:57,535
But during the election of '74...
953
01:12:59,041 --> 01:13:01,831
...our work became increasingly political.
954
01:13:01,919 --> 01:13:03,959
MI5 were running things.
955
01:13:04,046 --> 01:13:06,256
Our long-term objectives were abandoned.
956
01:13:06,423 --> 01:13:10,013
The new emphasis was on
assassination teams, bounty hunters.
957
01:13:10,469 --> 01:13:13,049
But the PSYOPS unit continued to operate?
958
01:13:13,305 --> 01:13:15,765
Yes, but with fresh targets.
959
01:13:16,850 --> 01:13:20,770
During the '70s, the Conservative Party
was demoralised and divided.
960
01:13:20,854 --> 01:13:22,864
They saw their party leader,
Edward Heath...
961
01:13:22,940 --> 01:13:26,320
...cave in against the miners' strike of '74
and were searching for...
962
01:13:26,402 --> 01:13:29,072
...a new leader from the hard right.
963
01:13:31,490 --> 01:13:34,740
We circulated stories about his private life.
964
01:13:35,452 --> 01:13:36,542
Heath was dumped.
965
01:13:36,745 --> 01:13:38,905
And replaced by Thatcher.
966
01:13:39,081 --> 01:13:41,121
Yeah, but that wasn't enough.
967
01:13:41,208 --> 01:13:43,838
There was concern
amongst business and the military...
968
01:13:43,919 --> 01:13:46,419
...that Labour were heading for
a third term in office.
969
01:13:46,505 --> 01:13:49,005
The moderates would be replaced
by the left-wingers...
970
01:13:49,091 --> 01:13:52,591
...who, in turn, would be opposed
to NATO and nuclear weapons.
971
01:13:52,678 --> 01:13:57,008
Remember, inflation was running rife,
industry was crippled by strikes.
972
01:13:57,266 --> 01:13:59,516
What is this leading up to?
973
01:13:59,601 --> 01:14:01,351
Treason, Mr. Kerrigan.
974
01:14:02,271 --> 01:14:05,611
Pressure came from the CIA
to get rid of the Labour government.
975
01:14:05,691 --> 01:14:06,731
Jesus.
976
01:14:07,109 --> 01:14:10,319
They fed information to M1 5
that Prime Minister Wilson...
977
01:14:10,404 --> 01:14:12,414
...was a KGB agent.
978
01:14:12,781 --> 01:14:15,581
It was a joint CIA-MI5 operation...
979
01:14:16,034 --> 01:14:18,084
...supported by others in Whitehall.
980
01:14:18,537 --> 01:14:21,577
Yeah, the whole bag
of dirty tricks was used:
981
01:14:22,499 --> 01:14:27,039
Smears, break-ins, burglaries,
phone-tapping, blackmail, disinformation.
982
01:14:31,467 --> 01:14:34,757
- If what you say is true...
- It all landed on my desk.
983
01:14:34,845 --> 01:14:37,925
- And you believed it?
- I did when it was used by Alec Nevin...
984
01:14:38,474 --> 01:14:41,234
...the future Prime Minister's
closest political ally...
985
01:14:41,310 --> 01:14:44,980
...the principal architect
of her victory over Edward Heath.
986
01:14:45,063 --> 01:14:48,363
You're saying that Thatcher
was involved in this?
987
01:14:50,736 --> 01:14:53,736
No, but she was the main beneficiary.
988
01:14:55,824 --> 01:15:00,294
The files and documents I got from MI5
I turned into articles and essays...
989
01:15:00,370 --> 01:15:02,330
...for selected journalists...
990
01:15:02,623 --> 01:15:04,713
...and speeches for Alec Nevin.
991
01:15:07,127 --> 01:15:10,837
- Why should I believe you?
- Because it's all on the tape.
992
01:15:11,507 --> 01:15:14,087
Why else do you think
they tried to get rid of me?
993
01:15:14,218 --> 01:15:16,588
If this comes out,
with Nevin's explicit connections...
994
01:15:16,678 --> 01:15:19,598
...to the Prime Minister,
the spotlight falls on Number 1 0.
995
01:15:19,681 --> 01:15:22,891
- That's why his name is on the list.
- What list?
996
01:15:23,268 --> 01:15:25,648
Paul made a list of six names.
997
01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:31,280
- Do you have them with you?
- I took them.
998
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,030
Then I suggest you study that list
very carefully.
999
01:15:34,112 --> 01:15:36,702
- Why?
- Because they are the prime movers...
1000
01:15:37,241 --> 01:15:40,991
...Nevin's ideological counterparts
in business, industry, the military.
1001
01:15:41,078 --> 01:15:43,078
Together they form the nucleus.
1002
01:15:43,205 --> 01:15:45,285
Their priority was to
wreck Labour's chances
1003
01:15:45,374 --> 01:15:47,044
of winning another general election...
1004
01:15:47,125 --> 01:15:49,705
...and if necessary,
were prepared to go even further.
1005
01:15:49,795 --> 01:15:52,295
You want wrapping up in a blanket.
1006
01:15:52,381 --> 01:15:55,971
Paul knew this. He heard the tape.
He had the tape.
1007
01:15:56,051 --> 01:15:58,681
- That's why they murdered him.
- I think you're insane.
1008
01:15:58,762 --> 01:15:59,802
I can prove it.
1009
01:15:59,888 --> 01:16:03,428
- Why would he lie?
- I don't know: Guilt, pressure...
1010
01:16:05,394 --> 01:16:07,024
...acute paranoia.
1011
01:16:07,104 --> 01:16:09,274
- I'm as sane as you are.
- And I believe him.
1012
01:16:09,356 --> 01:16:11,316
It couldn't happen.
1013
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:12,730
It did.
1014
01:16:24,788 --> 01:16:26,788
Why didn't you resign?
1015
01:16:30,752 --> 01:16:32,802
I was a career officer.
1016
01:16:34,006 --> 01:16:36,916
One hoped
that the situation would change.
1017
01:16:38,093 --> 01:16:41,053
But I also saw what happened
to people in a similar position.
1018
01:16:41,471 --> 01:16:43,221
Good men ruined.
1019
01:16:43,348 --> 01:16:44,968
So you went along with it?
1020
01:16:45,559 --> 01:16:46,729
No.
1021
01:16:47,311 --> 01:16:51,521
I asked questions about it.
At first, they were very understanding.
1022
01:16:51,732 --> 01:16:55,532
They said I was suffering from stress,
mental fatigue, physical exhaustion.
1023
01:16:55,611 --> 01:16:57,861
That I needed a break
from Northern Ireland.
1024
01:16:57,988 --> 01:16:59,698
So they sent me to the mainland...
1025
01:16:59,781 --> 01:17:03,121
...as an instructor
to the School of Intelligence.
1026
01:17:05,912 --> 01:17:08,502
In late '77, I was posted back here.
1027
01:17:10,417 --> 01:17:14,337
- How did they find out about this tape?
- Because I behaved stupidly.
1028
01:17:14,671 --> 01:17:17,721
Instead of keeping my head down,
I had a row about it all.
1029
01:17:17,799 --> 01:17:20,299
Consequently,
I was put under close surveillance.
1030
01:17:20,385 --> 01:17:23,045
Mail was opened, phones were tapped.
1031
01:17:23,138 --> 01:17:25,928
They searched my room
and found a backup copy of the tape...
1032
01:17:26,016 --> 01:17:28,016
...stitched in the lining of my beret.
1033
01:17:28,143 --> 01:17:30,903
So I took the original tape and ran.
1034
01:17:32,147 --> 01:17:33,477
Still running.
1035
01:17:35,317 --> 01:17:37,527
You say you have this tape?
1036
01:17:38,612 --> 01:17:43,452
It's all there: Names, dates.
I bugged their meetings.
1037
01:17:43,659 --> 01:17:45,579
I wanted Sullivan to publicise it.
1038
01:17:45,661 --> 01:17:48,161
Being an American citizen
and a civil rights lawyer...
1039
01:17:48,246 --> 01:17:49,746
...I thought he was beyond reach.
1040
01:17:49,831 --> 01:17:51,461
You were wrong.
1041
01:17:53,835 --> 01:17:57,455
I'm afraid media exposure
is the only protection I have.
1042
01:17:57,547 --> 01:17:59,087
Do you have it with you?
1043
01:18:01,551 --> 01:18:03,591
I have certain demands.
1044
01:18:03,970 --> 01:18:04,970
What demands?
1045
01:18:05,055 --> 01:18:08,175
When I deliver the tape,
I want to be taken into protective custody.
1046
01:18:08,266 --> 01:18:11,096
And I want you, Ms. Jessner,
to make it public.
1047
01:18:11,186 --> 01:18:13,266
- Agreed.
- I can't do that.
1048
01:18:13,355 --> 01:18:14,725
Why not?
1049
01:18:15,524 --> 01:18:19,494
Because he's not under my authority.
He's military personnel.
1050
01:18:19,653 --> 01:18:23,453
You were brought here
to investigate Paul Sullivan's death.
1051
01:18:23,532 --> 01:18:26,282
He was murdered because of that tape.
1052
01:18:28,412 --> 01:18:31,372
- Where is it?
- Do I have your agreement?
1053
01:18:34,626 --> 01:18:35,836
Yes.
1054
01:18:39,339 --> 01:18:40,669
Dublin.
1055
01:18:41,049 --> 01:18:43,009
The IRA found me a safe house.
1056
01:18:43,093 --> 01:18:45,553
They're hoping I'll come
to a prearranged meeting...
1057
01:18:45,637 --> 01:18:47,467
...and denounce British imperialism.
1058
01:18:47,556 --> 01:18:50,016
- When can we have it?
- You'll have to come to Dublin.
1059
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:52,020
- When?
- Day after tomorrow.
1060
01:18:52,102 --> 01:18:53,392
Where?
1061
01:18:55,397 --> 01:18:58,357
- O'Connell Bridge, 1 1 :00 a.m.
- We'll be there.
1062
01:19:02,529 --> 01:19:04,159
One last thing.
1063
01:19:04,865 --> 01:19:06,615
Nevin has a man working for him.
1064
01:19:06,742 --> 01:19:09,952
His name is McKee,
a former member of the SAS.
1065
01:19:11,079 --> 01:19:13,909
- Look out for him.
- What's he look like?
1066
01:19:14,833 --> 01:19:18,003
Big man, tall, bland face, thinning hair.
1067
01:19:19,087 --> 01:19:22,047
He's quite ruthless, capable of anything.
1068
01:19:39,608 --> 01:19:43,148
Am I wrong, Mr. Kerrigan,
or is it illegal to kill people...
1069
01:19:43,236 --> 01:19:44,816
...and try to steal a country?
1070
01:19:44,905 --> 01:19:48,695
Don't assume it happened
just because Harris said it did.
1071
01:19:49,034 --> 01:19:52,084
Paul's dead! Molloy's dead!
That happened.
1072
01:19:52,204 --> 01:19:55,214
Save your outrage
till we've heard the tape.
1073
01:19:59,878 --> 01:20:02,128
- Good evening, love.
- Good evening, sir.
1074
01:20:02,214 --> 01:20:03,214
Thank you.
1075
01:20:03,757 --> 01:20:06,877
- Have you seen Mr. Maxwell?
- He's in the bar, sir.
1076
01:20:16,561 --> 01:20:19,651
- How'd it go?
- It was interesting.
1077
01:20:20,148 --> 01:20:21,568
Did you see Harris?
1078
01:20:21,650 --> 01:20:23,780
Yes. He didn't have the tape.
1079
01:20:24,402 --> 01:20:26,612
You've had a call from MI5.
1080
01:20:26,863 --> 01:20:28,823
The spook department?
1081
01:20:29,699 --> 01:20:31,949
- Who?
- Sir Robert Neil.
1082
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:36,460
He wants to meet you for lunch tomorrow.
He's sending his car at 1 2:00.
1083
01:20:39,584 --> 01:20:42,504
- Time for a drink?
- No. I've had enough.
1084
01:20:43,338 --> 01:20:45,298
You two okay?
1085
01:20:46,383 --> 01:20:49,053
- Yes, thank you, Mr. Kerrigan.
- Fine.
1086
01:20:50,136 --> 01:20:53,056
- Mind how you go.
- See you in the morning.
1087
01:21:20,375 --> 01:21:23,375
- Good morning, Mr. Kerrigan.
- Good morning.
1088
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:29,970
- Come in, Mr. Kerrigan.
- Sir Robert.
1089
01:21:30,051 --> 01:21:32,181
Marvelous day. This way.
1090
01:21:39,477 --> 01:21:40,807
Do you know Alec Nevin?
1091
01:21:41,688 --> 01:21:44,148
No, I don't believe we've met.
1092
01:21:44,232 --> 01:21:47,112
I'm delighted to meet you.
I've heard a great deal about you.
1093
01:21:47,193 --> 01:21:48,823
How do you do?
1094
01:21:49,070 --> 01:21:52,070
- Sherry?
- No, thank you.
1095
01:22:09,174 --> 01:22:11,724
You've got your coffee, have you?
1096
01:22:12,636 --> 01:22:17,176
So, Mr. Kerrigan,
how has your inquiry progressed?
1097
01:22:19,100 --> 01:22:21,810
Sullivan and Molloy were killed
because of a tape.
1098
01:22:21,895 --> 01:22:23,395
What tape?
1099
01:22:23,855 --> 01:22:25,305
According to a Capt. Harris...
1100
01:22:25,398 --> 01:22:27,398
- You've met him?
- Last night.
1101
01:22:27,484 --> 01:22:28,904
Go on.
1102
01:22:30,153 --> 01:22:33,283
- Your name surfaced, Mr. Nevin.
- Really?
1103
01:22:35,450 --> 01:22:39,040
He claims that he possesses a tape
which will prove that you and others...
1104
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,710
...conspired to destabilise
the last Labour government.
1105
01:22:44,125 --> 01:22:46,955
He says he gave a copy of this tape
to Paul Sullivan...
1106
01:22:47,045 --> 01:22:50,295
...hoping he would publicise it,
and that's why Sullivan was killed.
1107
01:22:50,674 --> 01:22:55,344
- You've not heard the tape then?
- Not yet, but I will.
1108
01:22:55,971 --> 01:22:59,181
- You're seeing Harris again?
- I can't tell you.
1109
01:23:00,725 --> 01:23:03,685
Although he was strictly Army,
Harris worked for me.
1110
01:23:03,770 --> 01:23:05,770
Yes, I know.
1111
01:23:07,649 --> 01:23:11,819
- He was rather good at what he did.
- He was a traitorous bastard.
1112
01:23:11,987 --> 01:23:13,897
When I arrived just now...
1113
01:23:13,989 --> 01:23:17,829
...there was a man who greeted me
at the car: Tall, thinning hair.
1114
01:23:17,909 --> 01:23:20,789
- What about him?
- I might want to question him.
1115
01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:23,580
After the tape was taken
from Sullivan's body...
1116
01:23:23,665 --> 01:23:26,575
...the police gave it to someone
answering his description.
1117
01:23:26,668 --> 01:23:30,588
I have four witnesses to identify him.
Did he give the tape to you?
1118
01:23:30,672 --> 01:23:34,092
- Are you interrogating me?
- Are you obstructing me?
1119
01:23:36,428 --> 01:23:41,018
If you let me listen to that tape,
I can eliminate Harris from my inquiry.
1120
01:23:41,933 --> 01:23:43,563
You have no choice, Alec.
1121
01:23:44,561 --> 01:23:47,811
Do you remember the
disorders of the 1 970s...
1122
01:23:48,523 --> 01:23:49,943
...Mr. Kerrigan?
1123
01:23:50,025 --> 01:23:52,225
The kind of chaos we faced...
1124
01:23:52,610 --> 01:23:54,780
...strikes, riots...
1125
01:23:55,572 --> 01:23:58,822
...miners bringing down
a Conservative government...
1126
01:23:58,908 --> 01:24:03,118
...inflation going through the roof,
our European creditors...
1127
01:24:03,204 --> 01:24:05,004
...queuing up to pounce on us?
1128
01:24:05,415 --> 01:24:08,325
How Europe enjoyed our discomfiture.
1129
01:24:10,170 --> 01:24:12,840
Instead ofjust letting it happen...
1130
01:24:14,090 --> 01:24:17,590
...a few of us got together
to do something about it.
1131
01:24:17,886 --> 01:24:20,676
So there was a conspiracy.
1132
01:24:21,264 --> 01:24:25,894
- My dear chap, politics is a conspiracy.
- The point is, our paths converge.
1133
01:24:25,977 --> 01:24:28,647
- In what way?
- We both serve the state.
1134
01:24:28,730 --> 01:24:31,440
No, I defend the state.
1135
01:24:32,150 --> 01:24:33,820
You subvert it.
1136
01:24:33,902 --> 01:24:36,992
All right, let's be frank with one another.
1137
01:24:37,614 --> 01:24:42,334
Illegal methods were used in an attempt
to bring down the Labour government.
1138
01:24:42,452 --> 01:24:44,752
But that's all in the past.
1139
01:24:44,871 --> 01:24:47,921
Do you think by scrutinizing
mistakes made...
1140
01:24:47,999 --> 01:24:51,289
...you'll help restore
respect for law and order?
1141
01:24:53,004 --> 01:24:55,924
Don't play hide and seek
with reality, Mr. Kerrigan.
1142
01:24:56,633 --> 01:25:00,263
If you want to see the release of that
tape, and its contents made public...
1143
01:25:00,553 --> 01:25:02,013
...go right ahead.
1144
01:25:02,097 --> 01:25:04,387
But first, consider the consequences.
1145
01:25:04,849 --> 01:25:07,559
Every agitator, every intellectual...
1146
01:25:07,644 --> 01:25:11,024
...every bleeding-heart liberal
with his rhetoric about civil rights...
1147
01:25:11,106 --> 01:25:12,856
...will seise on it.
1148
01:25:12,941 --> 01:25:15,531
Now, you say you defend the state.
1149
01:25:16,194 --> 01:25:17,244
So do I.
1150
01:25:17,862 --> 01:25:21,202
But Parliament and its institutions
are the state.
1151
01:25:21,366 --> 01:25:24,276
And anything that threatens
the government...
1152
01:25:24,619 --> 01:25:28,039
...the rule of law,
the credibility of Parliament...
1153
01:25:28,289 --> 01:25:30,579
...is a threat to the state.
1154
01:25:31,292 --> 01:25:33,712
Leave well alone, Mr. Kerrigan.
1155
01:25:33,837 --> 01:25:37,127
Let the historians discover it
in 50 years' time.
1156
01:25:38,508 --> 01:25:41,838
- Our duty is to protect Number 1 0.
- It wouldn't be published anyway.
1157
01:25:41,928 --> 01:25:44,758
Strictly speaking, it's none of your concern.
1158
01:25:44,848 --> 01:25:47,348
It's an intelligence matter,
outside your jurisdiction.
1159
01:25:47,433 --> 01:25:49,523
- I don't accept that.
- Accept this...
1160
01:25:49,602 --> 01:25:53,062
What Alec and the others did
eight years ago was terribly wrong.
1161
01:25:53,148 --> 01:25:56,398
It wasn't just terribly wrong.
It was criminal.
1162
01:25:56,484 --> 01:25:59,034
It was wrong for the right reasons.
1163
01:25:59,112 --> 01:26:02,492
These were, and still are, honorable men.
1164
01:26:02,574 --> 01:26:05,534
- They broke the law.
- We've agreed on that.
1165
01:26:06,035 --> 01:26:08,745
But tell me, as a professional policeman...
1166
01:26:08,830 --> 01:26:12,960
...don't you find that hardened criminals
often benefit from the restraints...
1167
01:26:13,042 --> 01:26:15,672
...imposed on the police by the courts?
1168
01:26:15,753 --> 01:26:17,093
Absolutely, yes.
1169
01:26:17,172 --> 01:26:21,972
And when, to secure a conviction,
the police remove those constraints...
1170
01:26:22,260 --> 01:26:25,600
...when, for example,
they illegally tap a phone...
1171
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:30,270
...to apprehend political terrorists
whose aim is to overthrow democracy...
1172
01:26:31,352 --> 01:26:33,402
...is this ever justified?
1173
01:26:34,063 --> 01:26:36,063
It depends on the circumstances.
1174
01:26:36,524 --> 01:26:38,614
Let's be more specific.
1175
01:26:39,027 --> 01:26:42,147
In 1 974,
the IRA blew up a Birmingham pub.
1176
01:26:42,780 --> 01:26:46,530
21 young people were killed.
1 62 were injured.
1177
01:26:47,535 --> 01:26:51,995
The police, your colleagues,
arrested six Irishmen.
1178
01:26:53,249 --> 01:26:56,379
They were subjected to
what is euphemistically referred to...
1179
01:26:56,461 --> 01:26:58,251
...as "in-depth interrogation".
1180
01:26:58,671 --> 01:27:00,961
They kicked the hell out of
the murdering swine.
1181
01:27:01,049 --> 01:27:04,509
- And obtained a confession.
- Which held up in court.
1182
01:27:05,011 --> 01:27:06,851
Was that justified?
1183
01:27:07,096 --> 01:27:09,846
If they did that,
then they were out of order.
1184
01:27:09,933 --> 01:27:11,813
Tell that to the people of Birmingham.
1185
01:27:11,893 --> 01:27:13,733
The point I'm trying to make...
1186
01:27:13,811 --> 01:27:17,151
I understand the point
you're trying to make, Sir Robert.
1187
01:27:17,232 --> 01:27:21,032
That to maintain the system, the abuse
of power is sometimes necessary.
1188
01:27:21,152 --> 01:27:22,362
Yes.
1189
01:27:22,779 --> 01:27:26,779
It allows us to enjoy the freedom
of living in a free society.
1190
01:27:27,784 --> 01:27:30,624
A price the public are prepared to pay.
1191
01:27:31,204 --> 01:27:33,414
That's a dangerous concept.
1192
01:27:33,623 --> 01:27:35,583
But a realistic one.
1193
01:27:38,670 --> 01:27:40,920
You're forgetting one thing.
1194
01:27:41,005 --> 01:27:43,505
What's to stop Harris
from making copies of the tape?
1195
01:27:43,591 --> 01:27:48,301
Nothing at all, except without Harris,
there's no authenticity, no documentation.
1196
01:27:48,388 --> 01:27:51,428
Everyone would think it was an IRA fake.
1197
01:27:53,226 --> 01:27:54,886
And my investigation?
1198
01:27:55,853 --> 01:27:59,523
I have a solution
that is both effective and acceptable.
1199
01:27:59,941 --> 01:28:03,031
You have the culprits that did the shooting.
1200
01:28:03,695 --> 01:28:05,145
Nail them.
1201
01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:16,120
It really is a gorgeous day.
1202
01:28:16,916 --> 01:28:20,746
You know, Ireland would be a lovely place
if it wasn't for the Irish.
1203
01:28:24,882 --> 01:28:27,802
Was Ms. Jessner with you
when you met Harris?
1204
01:28:28,011 --> 01:28:29,091
Yes.
1205
01:28:29,679 --> 01:28:32,509
I wonder why Harris chose Paul Sullivan.
1206
01:28:35,143 --> 01:28:38,563
Did you know, before she met him,
she lived with a Communist?
1207
01:28:38,646 --> 01:28:41,316
- No, I didn't.
- It was all rather sad.
1208
01:28:41,441 --> 01:28:43,821
A Chilean. She had an abortion.
1209
01:28:46,821 --> 01:28:49,611
There is something I want to show you.
1210
01:28:54,871 --> 01:28:57,251
Not very pleasant, I'm afraid.
1211
01:29:02,962 --> 01:29:06,632
Liam Philbin.
Served seven years in H-Block.
1212
01:29:07,133 --> 01:29:09,633
Suspected of murdering two policemen.
1213
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,890
That's you making a contribution
to IRA funds...
1214
01:29:13,973 --> 01:29:16,143
...unintentionally, of course.
1215
01:29:18,603 --> 01:29:20,853
These make my stomach turn.
1216
01:29:24,275 --> 01:29:27,815
Alec wanted to turn them over
to his newspaper friends.
1217
01:29:27,945 --> 01:29:30,025
I persuaded him not to.
1218
01:29:30,531 --> 01:29:33,581
Apart from the damage
it could do to your career...
1219
01:29:34,660 --> 01:29:37,410
I'm a family man myself, Mr. Kerrigan.
1220
01:29:38,122 --> 01:29:42,082
I know the harm this sort of thing
can do to a happy marriage.
1221
01:29:43,086 --> 01:29:44,536
Take them.
1222
01:29:45,046 --> 01:29:46,456
Who keeps the negatives?
1223
01:29:47,548 --> 01:29:49,298
Alec keeps them.
1224
01:29:52,637 --> 01:29:54,047
Fuck you.
1225
01:29:57,517 --> 01:30:00,017
First, they threw the book at me.
1226
01:30:00,395 --> 01:30:02,185
Not in the national interest.
1227
01:30:02,271 --> 01:30:03,941
Violation of security.
1228
01:30:04,357 --> 01:30:05,517
Then...
1229
01:30:07,568 --> 01:30:10,898
...this infantile, laughable comic-book stuff.
1230
01:30:13,324 --> 01:30:15,744
Don't underestimate it, Peter.
1231
01:30:17,412 --> 01:30:21,792
I've been a policeman for 26 years.
I've never met anything like this.
1232
01:30:25,378 --> 01:30:28,048
If you go to Dublin, see him, get the tape.
1233
01:30:28,131 --> 01:30:30,591
Neil would argue
it was used for intelligence...
1234
01:30:30,675 --> 01:30:34,425
...and that it couldn't be admitted
in court as evidence.
1235
01:30:35,972 --> 01:30:38,142
So what are we left with?
1236
01:30:38,224 --> 01:30:39,274
The shooting.
1237
01:30:39,350 --> 01:30:41,480
Which is flameproof.
We have the statements...
1238
01:30:41,561 --> 01:30:43,771
Which we can make stick...
1239
01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:47,360
...provided we make
no references to the tape.
1240
01:30:47,442 --> 01:30:49,692
Concession offered by Neil.
1241
01:30:54,073 --> 01:30:55,373
Jesus.
1242
01:30:56,784 --> 01:30:58,794
What does that make me?
1243
01:31:00,955 --> 01:31:03,955
I came here as the cop
that couldn't be bought.
1244
01:31:04,041 --> 01:31:07,751
- Nobody bought you.
- I've been manipulated from day one...
1245
01:31:08,671 --> 01:31:10,761
...put through the hoop.
1246
01:31:16,971 --> 01:31:20,931
What happens
if I choose to take this to the limit...
1247
01:31:23,561 --> 01:31:25,561
...to the powers that be?
1248
01:31:26,814 --> 01:31:28,944
What support would I get?
1249
01:31:30,443 --> 01:31:31,903
Too risky.
1250
01:31:32,612 --> 01:31:35,782
You blow the whistle,
when the shouting stopped...
1251
01:31:35,865 --> 01:31:38,405
...they reach an accommodation...
1252
01:31:38,493 --> 01:31:40,243
...you're finished.
1253
01:31:42,121 --> 01:31:44,621
You know, Tom, I think I am naive.
1254
01:31:45,333 --> 01:31:46,293
I've always believed...
1255
01:31:46,375 --> 01:31:49,245
...that given half a chance,
the system would work.
1256
01:31:49,337 --> 01:31:52,087
Look, we've got the men
who did the shooting.
1257
01:31:52,173 --> 01:31:54,723
- Everything I've stood for...
- Our job's done.
1258
01:31:54,842 --> 01:31:55,972
No.
1259
01:31:57,011 --> 01:31:58,891
That's unacceptable.
1260
01:32:00,681 --> 01:32:04,021
I walk away from this,
it's a lifetime wasted.
1261
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:07,809
They want this thing buried...
1262
01:32:07,897 --> 01:32:10,437
...and if necessary,
they will bury you alongside it.
1263
01:32:10,525 --> 01:32:13,645
- But there was a conspiracy.
- What proof have we got?
1264
01:32:13,736 --> 01:32:16,276
- Neil admitted it.
- He'll deny it.
1265
01:32:16,822 --> 01:32:19,662
That conversation never took place.
1266
01:32:23,037 --> 01:32:25,367
Turn your back on this, Peter.
1267
01:32:30,044 --> 01:32:32,964
What about Ingrid Jessner?
What about her?
1268
01:32:33,130 --> 01:32:34,880
Not your problem.
1269
01:32:35,633 --> 01:32:39,393
This is all politics.
We have the men that did the shooting.
1270
01:32:39,470 --> 01:32:41,720
Are you willing to settle for that?
1271
01:32:41,806 --> 01:32:43,676
What else is there?
1272
01:32:44,392 --> 01:32:45,852
And if I persist?
1273
01:32:46,936 --> 01:32:49,596
Then you're on a hiding to nothing.
1274
01:32:51,065 --> 01:32:52,685
What about you?
1275
01:32:53,901 --> 01:32:56,531
- I'm a career policeman.
- So was I.
1276
01:33:01,117 --> 01:33:02,907
I'm sorry, Peter.
1277
01:33:03,202 --> 01:33:06,412
I'm not prepared to risk my future,
not in this.
1278
01:33:10,876 --> 01:33:12,376
Thanks, Tom.
1279
01:33:13,671 --> 01:33:15,921
You've just proved my point.
1280
01:34:17,902 --> 01:34:20,902
Listen, if a Mr. Kerrigan calls,
will you tell him I've left?
1281
01:34:20,988 --> 01:34:23,068
- Yes, certainly.
- Thanks.
1282
01:34:23,491 --> 01:34:26,241
Ms. Jessner? I'm Mr. Kerrigan's secretary.
1283
01:34:26,327 --> 01:34:28,657
He asked me to give you that.
1284
01:34:43,511 --> 01:34:45,011
Any message?
1285
01:34:45,554 --> 01:34:48,644
- When's his flight?
- Mid-afternoon, I expect.
1286
01:34:50,309 --> 01:34:51,639
Thanks.
1287
01:35:08,077 --> 01:35:09,947
Echo 1 to Control.
1288
01:35:10,329 --> 01:35:13,499
- Go ahead, Echo 1 .
- We're on the Dublin Road.
1289
01:35:14,959 --> 01:35:17,039
Are the others in place?
1290
01:35:18,421 --> 01:35:19,631
Yes.
1291
01:35:20,214 --> 01:35:22,174
Signing off now, Control.
1292
01:35:23,050 --> 01:35:25,970
Give it another minute,
then overtake her quite quickly.
1293
01:35:26,053 --> 01:35:28,263
I want to get ahead of her.
1294
01:35:41,944 --> 01:35:43,534
Come in, Echo 2.
1295
01:35:43,904 --> 01:35:45,034
Echo 2.
1296
01:35:45,740 --> 01:35:50,160
- Is everything all right, Echo 2?
- Yes, she's about 200 yards in front of me.
1297
01:35:50,244 --> 01:35:53,204
In a little while you'll see
a petrol station on your left.
1298
01:35:53,289 --> 01:35:56,249
You pull in, and I'll take up the follow.
1299
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,260
Echo 2...
1300
01:36:48,010 --> 01:36:49,590
...she's making for the bridge.
1301
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:51,640
I'm having trouble gettin' through this lot.
1302
01:36:51,722 --> 01:36:53,182
Bang your fucking horn, man!
1303
01:37:17,623 --> 01:37:19,293
- Where's Kerrigan?
- I don't know.
1304
01:37:19,375 --> 01:37:21,955
- That's no answer.
- I know, I don't know where he is.
1305
01:37:22,044 --> 01:37:23,554
Let's walk.
1306
01:37:26,549 --> 01:37:29,549
- You'll see that it's published?
- I'll try.
1307
01:37:32,221 --> 01:37:34,011
Don't let me down.
1308
01:37:34,807 --> 01:37:36,177
Trust me.
1309
01:37:36,475 --> 01:37:37,515
I do.
1310
01:38:24,523 --> 01:38:26,153
Where to, love?
1311
01:38:27,902 --> 01:38:30,572
- I have to hire a car.
- You want a car-hire place?
1312
01:38:30,654 --> 01:38:32,994
- Yeah.
- Which one in particular do you want?
1313
01:38:33,073 --> 01:38:36,163
- Any one in particular?
- No. It doesn't matter. You decide.
1314
01:38:36,243 --> 01:38:39,753
Do you want an expensive car
or a cheap car?
1315
01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:41,330
It doesn't matter. I don't care.
1316
01:38:41,415 --> 01:38:44,705
Look, I've had Americans before.
I just want to know what type car...
1317
01:38:44,793 --> 01:38:45,883
Just go.
1318
01:38:46,587 --> 01:38:47,917
It doesn't matter! Just go!
1319
01:38:48,005 --> 01:38:50,715
Okay. There's a friend of mine
over at one place.
1320
01:38:50,799 --> 01:38:53,049
- Fine.
- I'll bring you there, will I?
1321
01:38:53,135 --> 01:38:54,255
Fine. Great.
1322
01:39:06,273 --> 01:39:08,943
What you will hear on this tape
is a conversation...
1323
01:39:09,026 --> 01:39:11,526
... which took place at the home
of Mr. Alec Nevin.
1324
01:39:11,612 --> 01:39:14,322
Its purpose was to establish
a Conservative government...
1325
01:39:14,406 --> 01:39:17,656
... with a right-wing leadership.
I had shown support...
1326
01:39:17,743 --> 01:39:20,203
... and therefore was invited
to attend the meeting.
1327
01:39:20,329 --> 01:39:23,409
I wore a recording device
activated by voice.
1328
01:39:25,501 --> 01:39:28,961
Letting people off the leash a bit,
in that direction...
1329
01:39:29,630 --> 01:39:33,340
... the military and our friends
in the intelligence community...
1330
01:39:33,425 --> 01:39:37,715
... is really enhancing the case
for quite dramatic...
1331
01:39:37,805 --> 01:39:40,965
... constitutional resolution of this crisis...
1332
01:39:41,058 --> 01:39:43,228
Indeed.
Don't underestimate the flexibility...
1333
01:39:43,310 --> 01:39:47,230
We need to pressure the Palace into
giving legitimacy to what we need to do.
1334
01:39:47,314 --> 01:39:50,024
Indeed. You underestimate,
we all underestimate...
1335
01:39:50,109 --> 01:39:54,569
... the flexibility of this constitution
of ours. We can do almost anything.
1336
01:39:54,905 --> 01:39:57,525
What are his weaknesses?
1337
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,490
What can we have circulated?
1338
01:40:01,620 --> 01:40:04,790
And what rumors can we make stick?
1339
01:40:05,124 --> 01:40:09,094
We all know about Heath.
We all know what we think about him.
1340
01:40:09,169 --> 01:40:13,089
We should look to 5 to...
1341
01:40:13,882 --> 01:40:15,342
... assist in this matter.
1342
01:40:16,343 --> 01:40:19,393
Can you try
Ms. Jessner's room again, please?
1343
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,480
Have you paged her?
1344
01:40:27,354 --> 01:40:29,734
No. No message. Thanks.
1345
01:40:31,108 --> 01:40:33,988
- I don't suppose we'll be needing this?
- What's that?
1346
01:40:34,194 --> 01:40:37,614
It's the dossier you asked me to prepare
on those six names.
1347
01:40:37,698 --> 01:40:39,028
Thanks.
1348
01:40:40,617 --> 01:40:41,987
Insurance.
1349
01:40:42,453 --> 01:40:46,373
- Shall I take the luggage down now, sir?
- Please do.
1350
01:41:01,221 --> 01:41:03,101
It isn't your fault.
1351
01:41:05,768 --> 01:41:07,978
They must have followed her.
1352
01:41:09,646 --> 01:41:12,606
I'll pick up the rest of this stuff later.
1353
01:41:14,276 --> 01:41:17,396
- You know about Harris?
- I heard on the radio.
1354
01:41:18,030 --> 01:41:20,660
They kneecapped him,
then they blew half his head away.
1355
01:41:20,741 --> 01:41:22,491
Typical IRA execution.
1356
01:41:28,540 --> 01:41:30,630
- What about Ingrid Jessner?
- What about her?
1357
01:41:30,709 --> 01:41:32,789
- You know, if this thing leaks out...
- It won't.
1358
01:41:32,878 --> 01:41:34,748
A crime has been committed.
1359
01:41:35,756 --> 01:41:38,586
- What crime is that?
- I'm not just talkin' about Harris.
1360
01:41:38,675 --> 01:41:40,925
Everything is covered
by the Official Secrets Act.
1361
01:41:41,303 --> 01:41:45,893
- God, you people live in the Dark Ages.
- And what about you? Listen...
1362
01:41:46,266 --> 01:41:48,676
You and I are cut from the same cloth.
1363
01:41:48,769 --> 01:41:51,099
I am what I have to be, but you?
1364
01:41:51,396 --> 01:41:55,316
You're no better.
Like me, you observe rule Number 1 .
1365
01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:57,400
Keep your balls intact.
1366
01:41:58,153 --> 01:42:01,993
Have a good flight.
And don't forget to send me that report.
1367
01:42:02,241 --> 01:42:03,701
Okey-doke?
1368
01:42:05,619 --> 01:42:08,249
We need to get
some agent provocateurs into these...
1369
01:42:08,330 --> 01:42:11,870
... strikes that are taking place,
local government strikes...
1370
01:42:11,959 --> 01:42:14,209
... to cause a lot of
unpleasantness and disruption.
1371
01:42:14,294 --> 01:42:17,554
We need that to run through
until the election and give it a shot.
1372
01:42:18,090 --> 01:42:20,970
The question is,
can we rely upon democracy?
1373
01:42:21,301 --> 01:42:24,221
- Just my opinion, but...
- With a little push here and there.
1374
01:42:24,304 --> 01:42:27,524
Well, I agree with the little push.
1375
01:42:27,599 --> 01:42:31,059
I agree that is the point, in a way,
why we're here, isn't it?
1376
01:42:31,145 --> 01:42:35,645
If there's a run on the pound, that's fine.
If there's a lot of stuff circulating about...
1377
01:42:35,732 --> 01:42:39,442
... Wilson and Moscow,
which we all know to be the case...
1378
01:42:39,528 --> 01:42:42,408
... I think Wilson's somebody
we should home in very much on.
1379
01:42:42,489 --> 01:42:45,119
A lot of stuff should be
circulated about Wilson.
1380
01:42:51,874 --> 01:42:53,424
Ms. Jessner.
1381
01:42:54,877 --> 01:42:56,787
She hasn't seen us.
1382
01:42:58,714 --> 01:43:00,174
Wait here.
1383
01:43:03,844 --> 01:43:04,844
What are you doing here?
1384
01:43:04,928 --> 01:43:06,468
- Where were you?
- Did you get my note?
1385
01:43:06,555 --> 01:43:08,885
- Why did you change your mind?
- There are reasons.
1386
01:43:08,974 --> 01:43:11,894
- Tell me.
- I don't have to. I'm sorry.
1387
01:43:13,645 --> 01:43:15,605
What about Mr. Nevin?
1388
01:43:15,814 --> 01:43:17,194
What about Harris?
1389
01:43:17,274 --> 01:43:18,944
Harris is dead.
1390
01:43:19,276 --> 01:43:20,986
They're blaming the IRA.
1391
01:43:21,069 --> 01:43:22,859
- But it was them!
- Please.
1392
01:43:22,946 --> 01:43:26,196
- I saw it happen!
- Please, keep your voice down.
1393
01:43:28,327 --> 01:43:30,697
- I told you not to go.
- You told me a lot of things...
1394
01:43:30,787 --> 01:43:33,207
- Did you speak to Harris?
- Yes.
1395
01:43:33,790 --> 01:43:37,040
- Did you tell them we were meeting?
- Of course not. You were followed!
1396
01:43:37,461 --> 01:43:40,001
But you did talk to them. Why?
1397
01:43:40,380 --> 01:43:42,970
- Did he give you the tape?
- You're not gonna...
1398
01:43:43,050 --> 01:43:46,550
- Are you going to do anything about this?
- There's nothing I can do.
1399
01:43:46,637 --> 01:43:48,637
They've committed murder and treason.
1400
01:43:48,722 --> 01:43:51,222
At 1 1 :00 this morning,
a man was assassinated...
1401
01:43:51,308 --> 01:43:54,598
...by orders of British Intelligence,
and you can do nothing!
1402
01:43:54,728 --> 01:43:55,728
I wish I could.
1403
01:43:56,313 --> 01:44:00,613
This is a final call for flight BTH-9
to London, Heathrow.
1404
01:44:00,734 --> 01:44:02,364
You have connections I don't have.
1405
01:44:02,444 --> 01:44:05,244
Your reputation brought you here.
People will listen to you.
1406
01:44:05,322 --> 01:44:08,032
With you as my witness?
A civil-liberties group member...
1407
01:44:08,116 --> 01:44:11,156
...accusing the British government
of torture and shoot-to-kill?
1408
01:44:11,245 --> 01:44:16,075
"I don't care whose toes I tread on".
That's what you said, and I believed it.
1409
01:44:16,750 --> 01:44:19,460
- Look, I have to go.
- Go.
1410
01:44:19,544 --> 01:44:21,424
- I'm a policeman.
- Yes, you are.
1411
01:44:21,672 --> 01:44:24,172
The men responsible for Paul's death
will be charged.
1412
01:44:24,258 --> 01:44:25,838
To know and do nothing.
1413
01:44:25,926 --> 01:44:28,926
- You can't win against these people.
- To just close your eyes.
1414
01:44:29,012 --> 01:44:30,432
Forget it. Go home.
1415
01:44:30,514 --> 01:44:32,644
That's how fascism starts.
1416
01:44:33,684 --> 01:44:36,234
What do you think
of your fine British law now?
1417
01:44:36,311 --> 01:44:37,731
This has nothing to do with law.
1418
01:44:37,813 --> 01:44:40,363
- What is it then?
- It's politics.
1419
01:44:41,817 --> 01:44:45,027
To enforce the rules
of a police state is politics.
1420
01:44:45,112 --> 01:44:47,702
Good guys like you cover it up
so bad guys are safe.
1421
01:44:47,781 --> 01:44:50,571
You're a puppet,
and the men pulling the strings know it.
1422
01:44:51,535 --> 01:44:53,325
Did he give you the tape?
1423
01:44:53,787 --> 01:44:55,997
- No.
- What are you gonna do?
1424
01:44:57,624 --> 01:44:59,754
Tell people, newspapers.
1425
01:45:00,669 --> 01:45:02,669
- They won't print it.
- We'll see.
1426
01:45:05,924 --> 01:45:07,724
Go back to America.
1427
01:45:08,218 --> 01:45:11,178
Get out of Belfast. You're in danger here.
1428
01:45:13,598 --> 01:45:16,138
Ingrid, it's finished.
1429
01:45:17,811 --> 01:45:21,271
Not for them, it isn't.
Not for Nevin and the others.
1430
01:45:22,566 --> 01:45:26,146
They're not going to disappear.
They're still in place.
1431
01:45:31,867 --> 01:45:34,197
You have a plane to catch, Mr. Kerrigan.
1432
01:45:53,555 --> 01:45:55,305
What? Yes.
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