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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:02,698 --> 00:00:04,178 [soft music] 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:11,185 --> 00:00:14,492 [singing] 5 00:00:16,973 --> 00:00:18,061 [woman 1 laughing] 6 00:00:19,367 --> 00:00:22,587 What do I love about my daughter? Um... 7 00:00:23,458 --> 00:00:25,155 What do I love about my kids? 8 00:00:25,199 --> 00:00:27,462 -I'm going to cry. -I'll start crying. 9 00:00:27,505 --> 00:00:31,509 My daughter is an old soul who teaches me 10 00:00:31,553 --> 00:00:33,990 how to be a better person every single day. 11 00:00:34,034 --> 00:00:36,645 I love his heart, like he... he loves big. 12 00:00:36,688 --> 00:00:42,042 They are extremely smart and kind and opinionated which I love. 13 00:00:42,085 --> 00:00:45,436 -He is so unique. -[man 1] They see the bright side of everything. 14 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:47,743 They have this altruistic love of people in the world. 15 00:00:47,786 --> 00:00:51,747 -She's stunning and she's witty. -Very athletic, very charming. 16 00:00:51,790 --> 00:00:54,315 Like he actually makes me laugh. I'm not laughing because he's so cute, 17 00:00:54,358 --> 00:00:57,970 -he's like, legitimately funny. -Having these children to teach me 18 00:00:58,014 --> 00:01:02,018 how to love has probably been the best way for me to learn how to love. 19 00:01:02,062 --> 00:01:06,327 I just appreciate that they're good people, you know. 20 00:01:06,370 --> 00:01:08,111 [phone ringing] 21 00:01:10,722 --> 00:01:12,942 -Who's is that? -Is that... 22 00:01:12,985 --> 00:01:16,467 How ironic is that. Talking about... 23 00:01:18,904 --> 00:01:20,906 [man 2] It's around us, it's everywhere. 24 00:01:20,950 --> 00:01:22,560 Uh... 25 00:01:22,604 --> 00:01:24,997 [suspenseful music] 26 00:01:26,738 --> 00:01:28,262 [typing] 27 00:01:33,136 --> 00:01:38,837 A long time ago families were in extended communities. 28 00:01:38,881 --> 00:01:41,449 They were local. They were small. 29 00:01:41,491 --> 00:01:44,973 Children and parents largely worked together 30 00:01:45,017 --> 00:01:48,673 with neighbors on things that just needed to be done for daily living. 31 00:01:48,717 --> 00:01:52,982 I was born in the very depths of the Great Depression. 32 00:01:53,025 --> 00:01:57,726 If you know anything about the depression, it actually began on the farms. 33 00:01:57,769 --> 00:02:00,946 At that time I wasn't much to help, 34 00:02:00,990 --> 00:02:05,821 but I can tell you later on I was put to work carrying wood, carrying water, 35 00:02:05,864 --> 00:02:08,693 I knew how to shell peas, I knew how to break beans 36 00:02:08,737 --> 00:02:12,393 and I had a little wagon so I was the water girl 37 00:02:12,436 --> 00:02:15,918 instead of the water boy but that was the kind of things that we did. 38 00:02:15,961 --> 00:02:19,313 You had responsibilities in the barn with the animals 39 00:02:19,356 --> 00:02:21,271 from a very early age. 40 00:02:21,315 --> 00:02:24,970 It's getting harder and harder to find 80, 90, 41 00:02:25,014 --> 00:02:29,497 you know, plus-year olds that have that perspective. That we just have no concept 42 00:02:29,540 --> 00:02:31,890 of what it was like to live in that kind of scarcity. 43 00:02:31,934 --> 00:02:36,460 My mother was raised just like her great-grandmother was. 44 00:02:36,504 --> 00:02:39,724 I was raised pretty much like my mother and dad 45 00:02:39,768 --> 00:02:42,988 were up to a point and that's way with my kids. 46 00:02:43,031 --> 00:02:45,208 They were able to change, but they had to change 47 00:02:45,252 --> 00:02:46,601 so much faster than I did. 48 00:02:50,866 --> 00:02:52,911 [upbeat music] 49 00:02:59,962 --> 00:03:04,923 When you guys think of your parents and how they grew up what do you imagine? 50 00:03:06,490 --> 00:03:09,972 So they had no internet, no smartphones, what do you think they did for fun? 51 00:03:12,757 --> 00:03:18,459 Um, I don't really know how they would like communicate with their friends. 52 00:03:18,502 --> 00:03:22,550 Faxing. That's one thing in the 70s, faxing. 53 00:03:22,593 --> 00:03:24,508 If you've seen Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, 54 00:03:24,552 --> 00:03:26,510 I imagine their life was like Charlie's. 55 00:03:26,554 --> 00:03:29,687 It was definitely far different than what it is now. 56 00:03:29,731 --> 00:03:31,472 Lots more kids outside. 57 00:03:31,515 --> 00:03:34,562 A lot more like being outside than inside. 58 00:03:34,605 --> 00:03:38,305 I was outside 24/7. 59 00:03:38,348 --> 00:03:41,264 We were told to get out of the house, either in or out. 60 00:03:41,308 --> 00:03:44,049 So, if you wanted to go outside, you were out all day. 61 00:03:44,093 --> 00:03:46,095 I pretty much lived on my bike. 62 00:03:46,138 --> 00:03:47,792 I would ride my BMX bike. 63 00:03:47,836 --> 00:03:50,404 I fall in love with baseball. 64 00:03:50,447 --> 00:03:53,363 [woman 2] But we would play kick the can in the middle of the street. 65 00:03:53,406 --> 00:03:56,366 Capture the flag, to manhunt, to wiffle ball, to basketball, to... 66 00:03:56,410 --> 00:03:59,761 We built a zip line and it was actually made out of clothesline 67 00:03:59,804 --> 00:04:03,199 -which I would not recommend. -I remember getting up at 5:30 68 00:04:03,243 --> 00:04:04,722 and helped my friend with his paper route. 69 00:04:04,766 --> 00:04:06,637 He paid me with a donut, you know. 70 00:04:06,681 --> 00:04:08,987 Yeah, if I wasn't lighting somebody's house on fire 71 00:04:09,031 --> 00:04:11,207 or pouring sugar in a gas tank or something. 72 00:04:11,251 --> 00:04:13,514 Yeah, you went outside. You went and rang the doorbell. 73 00:04:13,557 --> 00:04:15,864 "You want to play?" And pick up somebody, sort of one house 74 00:04:15,907 --> 00:04:18,475 -at a time until you had a posse. -Go to Scott's house. 75 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:21,478 Last time we saw the two of them, they were with Jennifer. 76 00:04:21,522 --> 00:04:23,872 -Then you went and did whatever you want. -And before you knew it, 77 00:04:23,915 --> 00:04:25,874 you had the whole neighborhood outside. 78 00:04:25,917 --> 00:04:27,876 When the street lights came on we had to come home. 79 00:04:27,919 --> 00:04:30,922 I had to be home when the street lights came on. 80 00:04:30,966 --> 00:04:33,316 -When the street lights came on. -The street lights came on. 81 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,232 -Came home by dinner time. -Come in when it gets dark. 82 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:38,234 Came home when it got dark and parents would look at you quizzically, 83 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:40,671 "Why are you here already, if you're sitting around." 84 00:04:40,715 --> 00:04:43,108 I feel like life was more authentic, like more genuine. 85 00:04:43,152 --> 00:04:45,807 -Yeah, they got creative. -They got very creative. 86 00:04:45,850 --> 00:04:48,288 I feel like that's our... why our like parents like 87 00:04:48,331 --> 00:04:51,203 -stories are so much better than us. -They're so much more fun. 88 00:04:51,247 --> 00:04:53,467 How do you think they got in touch with each other? 89 00:04:54,946 --> 00:04:57,079 -They didn't. -[laughter] 90 00:04:57,122 --> 00:04:59,560 -They never got in touch... -Maybe like the house phone. 91 00:04:59,603 --> 00:05:01,736 They'd have to actually like dial the phone number. 92 00:05:01,779 --> 00:05:04,869 Remember in the kitchen there would be that ringing sound. 93 00:05:04,913 --> 00:05:07,829 We had the one phone in the kitchen 94 00:05:07,872 --> 00:05:10,135 that had the really long cord. 95 00:05:10,179 --> 00:05:12,355 -And it still hung on the wall. -Yeah, it still hung on the wall. 96 00:05:12,399 --> 00:05:14,270 I can remember setting the dinner table and having 97 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:16,098 to take the phone cord over my mom's head. 98 00:05:16,141 --> 00:05:19,362 I was rarely on the phone if my sister was on 99 00:05:19,406 --> 00:05:22,017 and then I would spend hours trying to record her. 100 00:05:22,060 --> 00:05:24,846 We also always had to have quarters on us too for pay phones 101 00:05:24,889 --> 00:05:27,065 like when you're out and about. It's critical. 102 00:05:27,109 --> 00:05:29,981 I would call my dad if I needed a ride home, if it got too dark. 103 00:05:30,025 --> 00:05:32,419 I remember when call waiting happened, like what? 104 00:05:32,462 --> 00:05:34,377 -What is this technology? -I had a pager 105 00:05:34,421 --> 00:05:37,554 -in the tail end of college. -We didn't have a phone 106 00:05:37,598 --> 00:05:39,295 until I was in college. 107 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:41,515 Everyone from the highway 108 00:05:41,558 --> 00:05:43,821 to here would be on the same line, 109 00:05:43,865 --> 00:05:46,520 so we I think we had nine people on the line. 110 00:05:46,563 --> 00:05:51,612 I don't think I had an actual telephone until I was in maybe fifth grade. 111 00:05:51,655 --> 00:05:54,223 But I think if we want to sort of be more real 112 00:05:54,266 --> 00:05:57,835 and focus on what people are experiencing now, 113 00:05:57,879 --> 00:06:01,622 we probably would want to be talking about the information revolution. 114 00:06:04,407 --> 00:06:08,933 When I was a junior I was taking a class 115 00:06:08,977 --> 00:06:12,850 and our professor was like, "We are going to communicate 116 00:06:12,894 --> 00:06:16,593 with another college class in Sweden." 117 00:06:16,637 --> 00:06:19,596 And we were like, "How... how are we going to do that?" 118 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,120 So we all went to the computer lab, 119 00:06:22,164 --> 00:06:25,428 stared at this black screen and we typed in like 120 00:06:25,472 --> 00:06:28,823 c:é\é all these numbers. 121 00:06:28,866 --> 00:06:32,566 I remember thinking this, "Why would anybody do this?" 122 00:06:32,609 --> 00:06:36,047 And she had this thing called AOL and there was this dial-up internet thing 123 00:06:36,091 --> 00:06:40,269 -and it was like... [imitates beep] -[beep] 124 00:06:40,312 --> 00:06:42,314 Then, all of a sudden, she's in this chat room. 125 00:06:42,358 --> 00:06:44,186 So, what's everyone up to today? 126 00:06:44,229 --> 00:06:45,883 Well, Linda Emerson called and she asked 127 00:06:45,927 --> 00:06:47,755 if Dash and Peter can help Andrew and Lisa 128 00:06:47,798 --> 00:06:48,973 learn about the internet. 129 00:06:49,017 --> 00:06:50,322 What's a web page? 130 00:06:50,366 --> 00:06:51,672 Something ducks walk on? 131 00:06:51,715 --> 00:06:53,674 Ha-ha very funny. 132 00:06:53,717 --> 00:06:56,111 And, frankly, I remember there being almost nothing to do 133 00:06:56,154 --> 00:06:58,113 once you were online. It seemed really cool 134 00:06:58,156 --> 00:06:59,680 and then you had no idea what to do. 135 00:06:59,723 --> 00:07:01,682 It didn't feel life changing 136 00:07:01,725 --> 00:07:03,727 until I think much later than that. 137 00:07:03,771 --> 00:07:05,990 And particularly over the last 20 years we've just seen 138 00:07:06,034 --> 00:07:09,994 this explosion of innovation and new technology. 139 00:07:10,038 --> 00:07:12,910 I do remember the first time somebody said, 140 00:07:12,954 --> 00:07:15,478 "You've never googled something?" 141 00:07:15,522 --> 00:07:17,524 And I was like, "What's Google?" 142 00:07:17,567 --> 00:07:20,918 Yahoo Meetups. I think they came before Myspace. 143 00:07:20,962 --> 00:07:25,619 Facebook was born like the week our oldest son was born. 144 00:07:25,662 --> 00:07:30,101 So when we look at him with his adolescent awkwardness 145 00:07:30,145 --> 00:07:32,495 like that's... that's how old Facebook is. 146 00:07:32,539 --> 00:07:34,409 My kids are way better 147 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:37,108 at using apps and mobile devices now than I am. 148 00:07:37,152 --> 00:07:40,416 Kids are so intuitive with like the mobile devices. 149 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:42,810 They can pick up any mobile device and just... 150 00:07:42,853 --> 00:07:45,334 it's so intuitive they know exactly what to do with it. 151 00:07:45,377 --> 00:07:48,424 Just pick it up and be like, "There you go." You're like, "What did you do?" 152 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:50,861 I've seen kids run circles around parents. 153 00:07:50,905 --> 00:07:53,342 At least now I have in-house tech help when I need it. 154 00:07:53,385 --> 00:07:55,997 -You know, technology moves quickly. -It's like the Wild West. 155 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,826 -I try to keep up with the latest. -By the time I am aware 156 00:07:58,869 --> 00:08:00,741 of what it is, they've gone on to the next one. 157 00:08:00,784 --> 00:08:02,438 How do you keep up with something new every day. 158 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:03,874 It's exhausting. You can't just like, 159 00:08:03,918 --> 00:08:05,659 "Okay, I got a [inaudible]." 160 00:08:05,702 --> 00:08:08,923 I am not currently on any social media. 161 00:08:08,966 --> 00:08:10,664 [woman 3] The use of phones has just ramped up. 162 00:08:10,707 --> 00:08:12,187 [woman 4] I wouldn't even know how to navigate. 163 00:08:12,230 --> 00:08:13,754 [girl] Everything's going crazy. 164 00:08:13,797 --> 00:08:15,190 [woman 5] It's very difficult to opt out. 165 00:08:15,233 --> 00:08:16,321 It's already too late. 166 00:08:17,801 --> 00:08:19,934 The train has already left the stance... the station 167 00:08:19,977 --> 00:08:22,893 way before I realized and I'll never catch up. 168 00:08:25,853 --> 00:08:31,336 Do I feel like I can protect my kids from the dangers online? No. 169 00:08:31,380 --> 00:08:34,121 They're going to have to navigate it and make decisions 170 00:08:34,164 --> 00:08:37,385 for themselves without me, sooner than I want. 171 00:08:37,429 --> 00:08:41,650 Its pace has been so fast that some of the... 172 00:08:41,695 --> 00:08:44,436 what... we'll call them guardrails that are necessary 173 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,527 to keep an industry accountable 174 00:08:47,570 --> 00:08:51,443 have been set aside in the spirit of innovation. 175 00:08:51,487 --> 00:08:54,272 Right now we're effectively living in an experiment. 176 00:08:55,447 --> 00:08:57,362 How is this going to affect us? 177 00:08:57,406 --> 00:09:00,801 We'll find out with the current generation. 178 00:09:00,844 --> 00:09:03,891 I... I will tell you that I'm probably going to be dead 179 00:09:03,934 --> 00:09:06,110 and gone and I'll probably be thankful for it 180 00:09:06,154 --> 00:09:09,723 when all this comes to fruition because... 181 00:09:09,766 --> 00:09:13,509 because I think that this scares me to death. 182 00:09:16,251 --> 00:09:18,383 [soft music] 183 00:09:21,822 --> 00:09:24,259 The internet is awesome. It's a great place. 184 00:09:24,302 --> 00:09:27,088 People use it for work, people use it for art, 185 00:09:27,131 --> 00:09:29,177 people use it for socializing. 186 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:30,831 I don't know, it's just fun to take cool pictures 187 00:09:30,874 --> 00:09:32,615 and show them off to the world. 188 00:09:32,659 --> 00:09:34,617 I like checking up on people 189 00:09:34,661 --> 00:09:36,706 that I haven't talked to since like the fifth grade. 190 00:09:36,750 --> 00:09:38,490 Like you don't get to see them for like a month, 191 00:09:38,534 --> 00:09:40,057 you can talk to them over FaceTime. 192 00:09:40,101 --> 00:09:41,668 Staying connected, sharing photos 193 00:09:41,711 --> 00:09:43,670 and being support to one another. 194 00:09:43,713 --> 00:09:46,411 My partner calls it SMS parenting 195 00:09:46,455 --> 00:09:48,370 because I just text them. 196 00:09:48,413 --> 00:09:50,154 [Titania] The educational opportunities 197 00:09:50,198 --> 00:09:52,200 of having the internet at my disposal, 198 00:09:52,243 --> 00:09:54,463 -I can search anything. -What did I have? 199 00:09:54,506 --> 00:09:56,857 I had The World Book Encyclopedia. 200 00:09:56,900 --> 00:09:59,294 Just feeling a sense of security and safety with the ability 201 00:09:59,337 --> 00:10:01,339 for the location tracking feature. 202 00:10:01,383 --> 00:10:02,993 It's like letting everyone know where we are 203 00:10:03,037 --> 00:10:05,039 and stuff, make sure everyone's safe. 204 00:10:05,082 --> 00:10:07,432 If he's at a friend's house I could call, 205 00:10:07,476 --> 00:10:09,957 -"Are their parents home?" -It's actually been a way 206 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,176 that we can keep track of them out there in the real world 207 00:10:12,220 --> 00:10:14,439 where things really are scary. 208 00:10:19,793 --> 00:10:22,622 Do you think the dangers online 209 00:10:22,665 --> 00:10:28,932 are more prevalent or dangers in real life are more prevalent? 210 00:10:28,976 --> 00:10:33,807 I think it's... I think I'm still more afraid of the real world. 211 00:10:33,850 --> 00:10:36,940 I think my primary concerns did tend to be physical. 212 00:10:36,984 --> 00:10:39,726 Any situation where they cannot physically defend themselves... 213 00:10:39,769 --> 00:10:42,337 -Yeah. -...then that's number one for me. 214 00:10:42,380 --> 00:10:45,688 That's scary to me and that's everything that's outside of the house. 215 00:10:45,732 --> 00:10:47,385 I wasn't allowed to walk around the street. 216 00:10:47,429 --> 00:10:49,431 I couldn't ride my bike around my street. 217 00:10:49,474 --> 00:10:51,476 I'm a senior in high school, I still can't sleep over. 218 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,826 we couldn't do that now. 219 00:10:52,869 --> 00:10:54,262 We couldn't walk down the street 220 00:10:54,305 --> 00:10:56,394 and like go to a restaurant. 221 00:10:56,438 --> 00:10:58,048 I mean that's just not really that safe. 222 00:10:58,092 --> 00:11:00,703 Without worrying about being kidnapped or even... 223 00:11:00,747 --> 00:11:03,140 -I'm going to throw out, raped. -Yeah. 224 00:11:03,184 --> 00:11:06,840 Many parents today worry more about physical danger 225 00:11:06,883 --> 00:11:10,887 of their children than they do online danger for their kids 226 00:11:10,931 --> 00:11:13,281 because it's something that they can relate to. 227 00:11:13,324 --> 00:11:16,110 [man 3] I don't know whether Jimmy's lost his kite or what, 228 00:11:16,153 --> 00:11:20,157 but he's really asking for trouble climbing a power or a telephone pole. 229 00:11:20,201 --> 00:11:24,379 Here's one, a rusty nail and believe me it's dangerous. 230 00:11:24,422 --> 00:11:27,338 I remember my parents really, you know, teaching me 231 00:11:27,382 --> 00:11:30,124 sort of very physical danger prevention things 232 00:11:30,167 --> 00:11:32,735 like look both ways when you cross the street 233 00:11:32,779 --> 00:11:35,172 and be careful who you talk to and things like that. 234 00:11:35,216 --> 00:11:38,436 All of those things parents heard when they were growing up. 235 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,830 And so that's something that they can hold on to. 236 00:11:40,874 --> 00:11:43,790 It's a fear that they remember whereas everything online, 237 00:11:43,833 --> 00:11:48,403 oftentimes it's so far out of what they can imagine 238 00:11:48,446 --> 00:11:50,797 because they're not using the technology the same way 239 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,322 that kids are that they can't even wrap their brain around it 240 00:11:54,365 --> 00:11:57,412 enough to know what to be afraid of. 241 00:11:57,455 --> 00:12:02,809 The greater danger is definitely mental versus physical in this world. 242 00:12:02,852 --> 00:12:05,246 Um... I see it. I see it. 243 00:12:05,289 --> 00:12:08,292 The biggest issues that have come up 244 00:12:08,336 --> 00:12:12,601 with our kids have all been mental. 245 00:12:12,644 --> 00:12:16,126 We've already been introduced to sexuality, 246 00:12:16,170 --> 00:12:18,912 cyber bullying, marketing and persuasion. 247 00:12:18,955 --> 00:12:21,566 The dangers for my kids that are more present 248 00:12:21,610 --> 00:12:23,612 are way more mental and emotional. 249 00:12:23,655 --> 00:12:25,309 I think parents are aware that 250 00:12:25,353 --> 00:12:26,920 there are mental dangers out there, 251 00:12:26,963 --> 00:12:30,706 but I feel like we're constantly as parents 252 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:33,665 you just tend to think that probably won't happen to my kid. 253 00:12:33,709 --> 00:12:38,235 Statistically speaking our world is much safer outside in the neighborhood. 254 00:12:38,279 --> 00:12:43,371 Those physical dangers are much less likely to happen 255 00:12:43,414 --> 00:12:46,461 than the dangers that we're seeing online. 256 00:12:46,504 --> 00:12:48,289 [soft music] 257 00:12:49,856 --> 00:12:53,903 I remember in fifth grade like I saw all my friends slowly 258 00:12:53,947 --> 00:12:57,037 like starting to get phones and I was like, 259 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,387 "Well, I want to be able to text my friends. 260 00:12:59,430 --> 00:13:01,737 I want to be able to like... 261 00:13:01,781 --> 00:13:04,784 do like fun things on your phone." Like it's a fun thing. 262 00:13:04,827 --> 00:13:08,831 When Annabelle was five I gave them their first iPod. 263 00:13:08,875 --> 00:13:11,747 I was... I was 11 when I started feeling pressured. 264 00:13:11,791 --> 00:13:14,881 Like even before that people had cell phones. 265 00:13:14,924 --> 00:13:17,144 Kids are ostracized. By the time they hit middle school, 266 00:13:17,187 --> 00:13:20,060 they go in at sixth grade almost everyone has a phone 267 00:13:20,103 --> 00:13:21,931 and if you don't have a phone then it's... 268 00:13:21,975 --> 00:13:23,933 it's almost like a bullying thing. 269 00:13:23,977 --> 00:13:27,154 You can do better than your peers if you have access 270 00:13:27,197 --> 00:13:29,939 to some social media that allows you to engage 271 00:13:29,983 --> 00:13:32,637 and know when things are happening and that you don't miss out. 272 00:13:32,681 --> 00:13:36,076 Peers judge other peers by their knowledge of what's happening. 273 00:13:36,119 --> 00:13:38,556 Certainly, in the last five years we've... we've seen 274 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,994 kids' usage of devices continue to increase. 275 00:13:41,037 --> 00:13:43,997 We've also seen kids getting devices younger and younger. 276 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,303 The rates at which they're experiencing certain types 277 00:13:46,347 --> 00:13:48,349 of problems continues to increase. 278 00:13:50,438 --> 00:13:54,572 I'm Kelly Anne. I have worked in multiple different areas 279 00:13:54,616 --> 00:13:58,838 with teens, children's hospital, a non-profit. 280 00:13:58,881 --> 00:14:01,884 I met this group of girls when they were freshmen 281 00:14:01,928 --> 00:14:05,583 and I have been with them now for four years so they're seniors. 282 00:14:05,627 --> 00:14:08,499 They have access to me 24/7. 283 00:14:08,543 --> 00:14:11,241 Like what's the max amount you think in one day, 284 00:14:11,285 --> 00:14:13,678 in the past three years like if you had picked the one day you spent 285 00:14:13,722 --> 00:14:15,724 the most time on your phone, how long do you think it was? 286 00:14:15,767 --> 00:14:17,421 Oh, I'd say 18. 287 00:14:17,465 --> 00:14:19,032 -[Kelly] Hours? -Maybe. 288 00:14:19,075 --> 00:14:20,903 -It's like five. -The last two months 289 00:14:20,947 --> 00:14:22,035 it's been eight, nine. 290 00:14:22,078 --> 00:14:24,080 Ten, 11 hours a day. 291 00:14:24,124 --> 00:14:25,299 Yeah, maybe like 12. 292 00:14:25,342 --> 00:14:27,562 In the past 10 years or so 293 00:14:27,605 --> 00:14:30,870 the time that they're spending on them has skyrocketed. 294 00:14:30,913 --> 00:14:33,002 On average, maybe seven hours a day. 295 00:14:33,046 --> 00:14:35,265 It's a lot of time when you also have to do 296 00:14:35,309 --> 00:14:37,311 school and sleep and eat. 297 00:14:37,354 --> 00:14:39,269 Seven hours a day is like a work shift. 298 00:14:39,313 --> 00:14:41,184 There's a lot to do on your phone. 299 00:14:41,228 --> 00:14:42,969 Like you can text people, you can play games, 300 00:14:43,012 --> 00:14:45,885 take videos, pictures. There's a lot to do. 301 00:14:45,928 --> 00:14:50,063 We've always had these things that captured our attention, 302 00:14:50,106 --> 00:14:53,327 but there is a certain level of precision 303 00:14:53,370 --> 00:14:59,986 with which today's technology hones in on our neurology and the way that we are wired. 304 00:15:00,029 --> 00:15:03,206 Social media and other internet platforms make their money 305 00:15:03,250 --> 00:15:07,167 by keeping users engaged. And so, they've hired the greatest engineering 306 00:15:07,210 --> 00:15:09,996 and tech minds to get users to stay longer inside 307 00:15:10,039 --> 00:15:12,215 of their apps and on their websites. 308 00:15:12,259 --> 00:15:16,393 -I use Instagram, Snapchat. -Instagram, Snapchat and TikTok. 309 00:15:16,437 --> 00:15:19,962 -Two Instagram accounts. -I can just scroll for hours on end. 310 00:15:20,006 --> 00:15:22,617 -I use Instagram, Twitter. -Instagram, definitely. 311 00:15:22,660 --> 00:15:24,880 -My favorite, Snapchat. -If I was to delete Snapchat, 312 00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:26,664 I don't think I would like hang out. 313 00:15:26,708 --> 00:15:28,884 I don't know what's going on with Snapchat. 314 00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:30,886 There's this app called TikTok. 315 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:33,062 The social media games like TikTok and Fortnite. 316 00:15:33,106 --> 00:15:35,673 Yeah, I look up from my phone after being there for 15 minutes 317 00:15:35,717 --> 00:15:38,546 -and it's been like an hour. -Scrolling through Instagram. 318 00:15:38,589 --> 00:15:40,591 Then I end up watching other people's videos 319 00:15:40,635 --> 00:15:43,246 -for like five hours on end. -Watch Netflix for a time, 320 00:15:43,290 --> 00:15:44,987 then go off Netflix to check Snapchat, 321 00:15:45,031 --> 00:15:46,684 check Instagram, and go back on Netflix. 322 00:15:46,728 --> 00:15:49,557 What I really do when I'm not online 323 00:15:50,601 --> 00:15:53,604 is kind of just sit on my ass and like eat. 324 00:15:53,648 --> 00:15:55,867 I call it the race to the bottom of the brainstem. 325 00:15:55,911 --> 00:15:58,566 So it starts with techniques like pull to refresh. 326 00:15:58,609 --> 00:16:01,264 So, you pull to refresh your news feed that operates like a slot machine. 327 00:16:01,308 --> 00:16:03,179 It has the same kind of addictive qualities 328 00:16:03,223 --> 00:16:05,138 that keep people in Las Vegas hooked. 329 00:16:05,181 --> 00:16:08,315 [man 4] One of the central issues of Skinner's philosophy 330 00:16:08,358 --> 00:16:12,362 of behaviorism is that just like the pigeon, man is a predictable animal. 331 00:16:12,406 --> 00:16:15,061 Gambling systems have a schedule we call 332 00:16:15,104 --> 00:16:18,325 variable ratio that explains why people gamble. 333 00:16:18,368 --> 00:16:22,068 The psychoanalysts say people gamble to hurt themselves, destroy themselves. 334 00:16:22,111 --> 00:16:24,984 Other people say they do gamble for the excitement and so on, but, nonsense, 335 00:16:25,027 --> 00:16:27,899 you gamble because there was a certain schedule built into 336 00:16:27,943 --> 00:16:30,772 the gambling device or system as in a horse race. 337 00:16:30,815 --> 00:16:34,254 These same schedules will make a pathological gambler 338 00:16:34,297 --> 00:16:36,604 out of a pigeon as well as out of a person. 339 00:16:36,647 --> 00:16:40,129 It's interesting raising kids five years apart. 340 00:16:40,173 --> 00:16:44,090 You know, John could leave his phone sitting somewhere away. 341 00:16:44,133 --> 00:16:47,397 We've noticed that Jack's generation is of kids that can't do that. 342 00:16:47,441 --> 00:16:49,312 They're so completely tied to their phone 343 00:16:49,356 --> 00:16:52,185 and they don't even know life without a telephone. 344 00:16:52,228 --> 00:16:54,578 Typically, when I get bored I do pick up my phone. 345 00:16:54,622 --> 00:16:59,018 I tend to switch apps every 30 seconds to a minute. 346 00:16:59,061 --> 00:17:01,542 They will, literally, melt their brains 347 00:17:01,585 --> 00:17:03,892 -before they got off the device. -Yeah. 348 00:17:03,935 --> 00:17:05,675 When we think about traditional drug use, 349 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,852 we know that the age of first use, 350 00:17:07,896 --> 00:17:10,811 the earlier it happens, um... 351 00:17:10,855 --> 00:17:13,075 the greater likelihood for addiction. 352 00:17:13,118 --> 00:17:15,469 And so, think about, you know, with children their brain 353 00:17:15,512 --> 00:17:18,602 is developing and if they are not having balance 354 00:17:18,646 --> 00:17:22,084 in how they're using this and it's developing at a younger age 355 00:17:22,127 --> 00:17:26,828 I just, you know, question how that will continue to impact them for years to come. 356 00:17:26,871 --> 00:17:30,266 Young folks tend to have their reward sensitivity 357 00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:34,053 and their social sensitivity develop much earlier 358 00:17:34,096 --> 00:17:38,187 than their ability to regulate these areas in their brain. 359 00:17:38,231 --> 00:17:42,452 Throughout childhood the brain experiences rapid maturation. 360 00:17:42,496 --> 00:17:45,803 It begins in areas responsible for basic perception 361 00:17:45,847 --> 00:17:47,979 and memory way in the back of the brain 362 00:17:48,023 --> 00:17:50,025 and it ends in the front of the brain. 363 00:17:50,069 --> 00:17:52,245 And in the front of the brain that's the areas 364 00:17:52,288 --> 00:17:55,857 that are most important for having us regulate our responses 365 00:17:55,900 --> 00:17:59,817 to rewards and our responses to social feedback. 366 00:17:59,861 --> 00:18:03,343 And the highest order part of that 367 00:18:03,386 --> 00:18:05,997 doesn't really develop in... into the 20s. 368 00:18:06,041 --> 00:18:08,391 I... my biggest fear's when they get older that 369 00:18:08,435 --> 00:18:11,916 they never put those things down and they're so disinterested 370 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,354 with connecting with other people, 371 00:18:14,397 --> 00:18:18,140 like, in person, you know, that it negatively affects them. 372 00:18:18,184 --> 00:18:21,578 Being a leader 14 years ago was easier. 373 00:18:21,622 --> 00:18:25,104 The way kids are has definitely changed. 374 00:18:25,147 --> 00:18:29,804 They have less or no coping skills. 375 00:18:29,847 --> 00:18:34,200 They are also harder to kind of break 376 00:18:34,243 --> 00:18:37,290 that outer shell and talk about hard things. 377 00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:41,511 They don't want to, and or, they don't know how. It's wild. 378 00:18:41,555 --> 00:18:43,426 They really just don't know how to get there. 379 00:18:43,470 --> 00:18:46,647 One of the greatest consequences of screen time addiction 380 00:18:46,690 --> 00:18:51,521 is just the lack of social development, social skills development, 381 00:18:51,565 --> 00:18:53,219 being able to connect with other people. 382 00:18:53,262 --> 00:18:54,959 And we're seeing a lot more of that 383 00:18:55,003 --> 00:18:56,744 as we are becoming more aware 384 00:18:56,787 --> 00:18:58,615 of what social media does to our ability 385 00:18:58,659 --> 00:19:01,618 to have empathy, and to interact with others, 386 00:19:01,662 --> 00:19:04,578 and to see their social cues, understand their social cues, 387 00:19:04,621 --> 00:19:08,756 and react accordingly. We're seeing the difference that it's making but the kids aren't. 388 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:12,499 The disconnect of even just he with his friends. 389 00:19:12,542 --> 00:19:14,979 I mean... I mean it is how they connect, 390 00:19:15,023 --> 00:19:18,505 but how connected are they if they're all getting depressed and... 391 00:19:18,548 --> 00:19:21,203 -Yeah, well, if they don't have anything to compare it with... -Yeah. 392 00:19:21,247 --> 00:19:23,118 Like, you know, like you said it, we... 393 00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:25,207 we have a comparison because we grew up differently, 394 00:19:25,251 --> 00:19:27,078 because we didn't have the option. 395 00:19:27,122 --> 00:19:29,429 We're incredibly social creatures. 396 00:19:29,472 --> 00:19:31,431 That's actually what separates us, 397 00:19:31,474 --> 00:19:34,434 not our intelligence, but our ability to work together 398 00:19:34,477 --> 00:19:39,134 in communities, to thrive as humans. 399 00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:41,963 A huge chunk of your brain is devoted 400 00:19:42,006 --> 00:19:44,966 towards just understanding people's moment-to-moment 401 00:19:45,009 --> 00:19:47,534 facial expressions because social signals 402 00:19:47,577 --> 00:19:51,494 that come very rapidly are incredibly important to us, 403 00:19:51,538 --> 00:19:54,367 even if in the moment we're not totally realizing 404 00:19:54,410 --> 00:19:56,020 how important those social signals are. 405 00:19:57,935 --> 00:20:00,590 Would any of you guys say that you struggle or 406 00:20:00,634 --> 00:20:03,114 have struggled with anxiety or depression? 407 00:20:03,158 --> 00:20:05,247 -Anxiety. -[Kelly] In high school? 408 00:20:05,291 --> 00:20:07,206 -Oh, yeah. -[girl] Oh, yeah. 409 00:20:08,990 --> 00:20:10,644 -Depression. -Yeah, me, too. 410 00:20:10,687 --> 00:20:13,473 -Yeah, dumb. -Yes, definitely I have 411 00:20:13,516 --> 00:20:17,781 an entire friend group who has latched on to each other 412 00:20:17,825 --> 00:20:19,914 due to their connection with depression. 413 00:20:19,957 --> 00:20:23,352 Because they both are prone to anxiety and depression, 414 00:20:23,396 --> 00:20:28,488 I can't pinpoint whether or not it has anything to do with their device. 415 00:20:28,531 --> 00:20:32,013 He's addicted to some games. I'm addicted to some games. 416 00:20:32,056 --> 00:20:35,538 Sometimes when we don't get it we cry. We throw a fit. 417 00:20:35,582 --> 00:20:39,281 I noticed my anxiety ramps up when I'm on my phone more, 418 00:20:39,325 --> 00:20:42,502 but not from like any specific thing just kind 419 00:20:42,545 --> 00:20:46,288 of the more time I spend in my head, the worse off I get. 420 00:20:46,332 --> 00:20:49,683 A statement that I've been making at my talks 421 00:20:49,726 --> 00:20:52,947 with high schoolers is, "Don't you all just sort of feel like 422 00:20:52,990 --> 00:20:55,210 every moment of every single day, 423 00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:59,170 we're all living in a state of low-grade anxiety?" 424 00:20:59,214 --> 00:21:01,564 And they all just kind of look at me like, "Yeah." 425 00:21:01,608 --> 00:21:05,655 So we are seeing many more kids 426 00:21:05,699 --> 00:21:09,268 coming to school with diagnoses of anxiety and depression. 427 00:21:09,311 --> 00:21:13,576 And we also know that the teen suicide rate 428 00:21:13,620 --> 00:21:18,799 from 2010 to 2017 increased 56%. 429 00:21:18,842 --> 00:21:22,368 My day-to-day life in the ER over the last 20 years I think, there's been 430 00:21:22,411 --> 00:21:26,372 two very palpable changes. One is childhood obesity 431 00:21:26,415 --> 00:21:32,247 and the other is mental health issues in terms of the volume and the frequency. 432 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:35,859 I have personally seen a difference in the number of children 433 00:21:35,903 --> 00:21:38,775 who are coming to the ER with mental health issues 434 00:21:38,819 --> 00:21:40,995 with non-suicidal self-harming 435 00:21:41,038 --> 00:21:44,433 and suicide attempts and suicidal ideation. 436 00:21:44,477 --> 00:21:50,483 His demeanor with me and his temperament, everything is different 437 00:21:50,526 --> 00:21:54,138 after he has had hours of gaming or something with a friend. 438 00:21:54,182 --> 00:21:57,141 Sometimes I feel like I want to give it up, 439 00:21:57,185 --> 00:22:00,362 but it's such a big part of teenage life, 440 00:22:00,406 --> 00:22:04,410 I guess you could say that I... I... I just couldn't. 441 00:22:04,453 --> 00:22:07,151 A lot of like our lives are on our phones. 442 00:22:07,195 --> 00:22:10,372 Like texting our friends, like that's on our phone, 443 00:22:10,416 --> 00:22:13,723 like we have to be on it, if we want to like talk to our friends. 444 00:22:13,767 --> 00:22:17,684 Like our school actually gives us information through social media, 445 00:22:17,727 --> 00:22:19,816 so it's kind of just like it goes hand in hand 446 00:22:19,860 --> 00:22:22,384 that you will be using social media and have a phone. 447 00:22:22,428 --> 00:22:25,735 The lives of kids were sort of changing slowly 448 00:22:25,779 --> 00:22:29,522 for a while and then, all of a sudden, phones, 449 00:22:29,565 --> 00:22:33,308 smartphones were easy to get. Social media was easy to get. 450 00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:36,398 Most people were able to afford that. Most kids were able to get on social media 451 00:22:36,442 --> 00:22:38,139 and that's when everything kind of skyrocketed. 452 00:22:38,182 --> 00:22:40,924 -I'm addicted to my iPad. -I'm addicted. 453 00:22:40,968 --> 00:22:44,319 But adults not just teenagers are also addicted to their phones. 454 00:22:44,363 --> 00:22:48,062 Parents are the primary determinant 455 00:22:48,105 --> 00:22:50,804 as to how a kid uses technology. 456 00:22:50,847 --> 00:22:53,720 In other words, if we want our kids to be 457 00:22:53,763 --> 00:22:55,635 consuming technology differently then we first 458 00:22:55,678 --> 00:22:58,289 need to look in the mirror and ask ourselves, 459 00:22:58,333 --> 00:23:02,642 would we want them using their technology exactly how I do? 460 00:23:02,685 --> 00:23:05,079 The race for attention has to get more and more aggressive. 461 00:23:05,122 --> 00:23:07,386 And so, it's not enough just to get your behavior 462 00:23:07,429 --> 00:23:09,649 and predict what will take your behavior. 463 00:23:09,692 --> 00:23:12,652 We have to predict how to keep you hooked in a different way. 464 00:23:12,695 --> 00:23:16,569 And so, it crawled deeper down the brainstem into our social validation. 465 00:23:16,612 --> 00:23:19,267 So that was the introduction of likes and followers. 466 00:23:19,310 --> 00:23:23,140 I post a lot. I used to... 467 00:23:23,184 --> 00:23:26,143 like I almost like have like a mental schedule, like, 468 00:23:26,187 --> 00:23:28,711 okay, like each month I'll post. 469 00:23:28,755 --> 00:23:32,193 And like I'll edit the picture and like make it look really good. 470 00:23:32,236 --> 00:23:35,892 Now I just kind of like post like when I want to 471 00:23:35,936 --> 00:23:39,853 and I like definitely delete posts I don't get like a lot of likes. 472 00:23:39,896 --> 00:23:42,638 I like to have a lot of likes on my posts. 473 00:23:42,682 --> 00:23:45,162 Just to like... it just makes you feel good. 474 00:23:45,206 --> 00:23:47,034 You feel better when people are like, 475 00:23:47,077 --> 00:23:49,123 "Yeah, you're looking good." But then 476 00:23:49,166 --> 00:23:51,125 at other times you feel horrible 477 00:23:51,168 --> 00:23:52,605 because people aren't liking your post, 478 00:23:52,648 --> 00:23:54,041 but you can see they looked at it. 479 00:23:54,084 --> 00:23:55,303 No, I don't care. 480 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,263 I mean it sucks when my art doesn't get a whole lot of likes. 481 00:24:00,917 --> 00:24:05,226 They call each other and say, "Do me a favor, like my picture. I need more likes on my..." 482 00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:08,142 [girl] Like, it's really easy for you to be like, 483 00:24:08,185 --> 00:24:11,667 "Oh! Look at this other girl. Like she got this many more likes. 484 00:24:11,711 --> 00:24:15,454 -Like her body's this much nicer." -[Patti] Are they chasing likes? 485 00:24:15,497 --> 00:24:17,891 Are they, as some young people say, you know, 486 00:24:17,934 --> 00:24:20,850 I'll put a photo up and if I don't get 50 likes right away 487 00:24:20,894 --> 00:24:23,766 -I'm taking it down. -And that got every... it was much cheaper to... 488 00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:26,552 instead of getting your attention to get you addicted 489 00:24:26,595 --> 00:24:28,510 to getting attention from other people. 490 00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:30,512 And this has created the kind of mass narcissism 491 00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:32,427 and mass cultural thing that's happening 492 00:24:32,471 --> 00:24:34,081 with young people especially today. 493 00:24:34,124 --> 00:24:36,387 I think people's online status does... 494 00:24:36,431 --> 00:24:39,303 connect to their popularity at school. 495 00:24:39,347 --> 00:24:41,349 I'd say they're kind of symbiotic, 496 00:24:41,392 --> 00:24:43,830 like they both feed off of each other. 497 00:24:43,873 --> 00:24:46,963 I have a 400 streak with this person. I'm better than you 498 00:24:47,007 --> 00:24:50,445 or look at this, I got 600 likes on Instagram. I am better than you. 499 00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:53,796 They just want to be famous. They just want people to adore them. 500 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,146 They're hoping to get famous. They're hoping to get popular. 501 00:24:56,190 --> 00:24:58,975 They're hoping to get validated by strangers on the internet. 502 00:24:59,019 --> 00:25:02,196 Clout addiction. Know what clout is? 503 00:25:02,239 --> 00:25:06,417 It's not as if, all of a sudden, a separate part 504 00:25:06,461 --> 00:25:08,985 of our brain evolved in the past 10 years 505 00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:12,598 to separate out social signals from social media 506 00:25:12,641 --> 00:25:15,122 from those social signals that we get in real life. 507 00:25:15,165 --> 00:25:17,994 The... the social feedback is, literally, rewarding 508 00:25:18,038 --> 00:25:22,651 when it's positive and it's, literally, punishing when it's negative. 509 00:25:22,695 --> 00:25:26,699 Ms. Stanfield, I... I... I was a little confused by one thing you said. 510 00:25:26,742 --> 00:25:30,180 Did you say Google doesn't use persuasive technology? 511 00:25:30,224 --> 00:25:32,095 That is correct, Sir. 512 00:25:34,489 --> 00:25:36,752 What gets the most likes? 513 00:25:37,884 --> 00:25:40,364 -More skin, more likes. -[girl] Yeah. 514 00:25:40,408 --> 00:25:42,453 Girls in bathing suits. 515 00:25:42,497 --> 00:25:44,586 [boy] You have to sexualize yourself 516 00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:46,632 or you have to post a bikini pic or something 517 00:25:46,675 --> 00:25:48,590 that's revealing in order to get a lot of likes. 518 00:25:48,634 --> 00:25:50,592 The more attractive you are the more likes you get. 519 00:25:50,636 --> 00:25:52,681 -Hot girls get a lot of likes. -Parent's day and age, 520 00:25:52,725 --> 00:25:55,118 you couldn't get on your phone and be like, "Oh, my gosh! 521 00:25:55,162 --> 00:25:57,381 Look at Kim Kardashian's life." We have the ability to compare 522 00:25:57,425 --> 00:25:59,775 -ourselves with other people. -We weren't really worried 523 00:25:59,819 --> 00:26:01,690 about what we were wearing because everybody 524 00:26:01,734 --> 00:26:02,822 in the whole world wasn't watching us. 525 00:26:02,865 --> 00:26:04,780 The pressure to maintain 526 00:26:04,824 --> 00:26:07,304 the perfect image online is huge. 527 00:26:07,348 --> 00:26:09,829 On the flip side, if they post something 528 00:26:09,872 --> 00:26:12,005 and either don't get likes or get poor comments 529 00:26:12,048 --> 00:26:14,616 then it's hit with depression. 530 00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:17,750 [woman 6] But you know what you look like. You can see yourself. 531 00:26:17,793 --> 00:26:19,969 You don't need... 532 00:26:20,927 --> 00:26:23,146 Yeah, but it's not how you look like... 533 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:26,454 -Yeah. -...this. It's like how you look like on that. 534 00:26:26,497 --> 00:26:28,804 It's not checking to see if the hair is okay, 535 00:26:28,848 --> 00:26:31,459 it's seeing if they look like the girl 536 00:26:31,502 --> 00:26:33,548 that they saw on Instagram that was perfect. 537 00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:36,377 Seeing people like that, it's like, "Why can't I, 538 00:26:36,420 --> 00:26:38,466 you know, look like that?" 539 00:26:38,509 --> 00:26:41,687 And it's weird because we know that 540 00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:45,691 they're made up and they're not like a 100% authentic pictures. 541 00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:48,345 Girls like strongly edit their pictures 542 00:26:48,389 --> 00:26:52,654 and like you can tell like the wall is bent at their waist or like... 543 00:26:52,698 --> 00:26:55,657 But it just still makes you feel like... 544 00:26:55,701 --> 00:26:58,486 They're always ready for a phone. It's like they're constantly 545 00:26:58,529 --> 00:27:02,490 prepared to be captured by something and be shown to the world. 546 00:27:02,533 --> 00:27:05,580 [man 5] A man feels free, if he believes he is free 547 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:08,191 and he will believe he is free if he is conditioned 548 00:27:08,235 --> 00:27:10,977 by positive reinforcement to think so. 549 00:27:28,385 --> 00:27:33,695 You could be the meanest most horrible person in the world 550 00:27:33,739 --> 00:27:36,698 and if somebody sees you have like 6000 followers on Instagram 551 00:27:36,742 --> 00:27:38,787 at school or like you get a ton of likes, 552 00:27:38,831 --> 00:27:40,789 they'll be your friends. They don't care what you're like. 553 00:27:40,833 --> 00:27:43,183 Are you going to be on my side if I let you up? 554 00:27:43,226 --> 00:27:45,881 Sure, chick, sure. I'm on your side. 555 00:27:45,925 --> 00:27:48,275 Just let me up. I'll do anything you say. 556 00:27:48,318 --> 00:27:51,278 When I was a student bullying was always in person, 557 00:27:51,321 --> 00:27:54,194 in my neighborhood, the bully who lived up the hill 558 00:27:54,237 --> 00:27:56,936 and we would be careful to not to go that direction 559 00:27:56,979 --> 00:27:59,765 because if he was outside he would grab your bike and harass kids. 560 00:27:59,808 --> 00:28:01,201 Get off. I want to ride it. 561 00:28:01,244 --> 00:28:03,072 Oh, no Jake! Not my new bike. 562 00:28:03,116 --> 00:28:05,727 Oh, I was bullied all through school. 563 00:28:05,771 --> 00:28:07,729 I can remember the kid, who you all just kind of knew 564 00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:10,427 was mean to people whether it was on the playground 565 00:28:10,471 --> 00:28:12,386 or other places. I'm not going to say his name. 566 00:28:12,429 --> 00:28:13,735 I'm sure he's a great guy now. 567 00:28:13,779 --> 00:28:15,781 The bullying happened at school 568 00:28:15,824 --> 00:28:19,393 -or on the bus. -The ways in which this person 569 00:28:19,436 --> 00:28:23,266 could have access to my life were pretty limited. 570 00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:26,182 In this case, it was the seven hours that I was at school. 571 00:28:26,226 --> 00:28:28,750 Okay. Really? Come on, guys. 572 00:28:30,143 --> 00:28:32,362 Now, it's always available. 573 00:28:32,406 --> 00:28:34,713 It's going to follow them everywhere. 574 00:28:34,756 --> 00:28:37,716 Have any of you ever been harassed online? 575 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:41,632 -Yes, 120%. -People are still just like mean. 576 00:28:41,676 --> 00:28:45,506 [girl] They're called trolls. They just troll you and they try and make you feel bad. 577 00:28:45,549 --> 00:28:50,467 Trolls are just kind of a part of the society we live in nowadays. 578 00:28:50,511 --> 00:28:54,776 Our bullying did not go in front of the whole world on social media. 579 00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:58,649 To them it feels like it went out to the whole world. 580 00:28:58,693 --> 00:29:01,957 Personally, like I don't really get those. Well... 581 00:29:05,526 --> 00:29:08,007 Where are the safe places for a kid growing up? 582 00:29:08,050 --> 00:29:10,923 Because as soon as I get home everyone goes to their room 583 00:29:10,966 --> 00:29:14,317 and the devices come out and everything that was horrible about what 584 00:29:14,361 --> 00:29:19,192 just happened is shared over and over and over again. 585 00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:21,672 By sixth grade he was like bullying me on Instagram 586 00:29:21,716 --> 00:29:24,719 and my friends were telling me and I had no means to defend myself. 587 00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:27,940 Well, honestly, I do think it's worse to be bullied online 588 00:29:27,983 --> 00:29:29,985 because you don't know who you're talking to. 589 00:29:30,029 --> 00:29:32,814 Big picture, he was bullied in a lot of different ways 590 00:29:32,858 --> 00:29:35,817 and part of the way that 591 00:29:35,861 --> 00:29:38,820 also showed up was through text message. 592 00:29:38,864 --> 00:29:41,997 You know it was in person, in school, in the classroom, 593 00:29:42,041 --> 00:29:43,825 divide and conquer as well as cyber. 594 00:29:43,869 --> 00:29:46,219 And so, it was coming at him from all angles. 595 00:29:46,262 --> 00:29:49,222 And it would never shut off, but the cyber stuff... 596 00:29:49,265 --> 00:29:52,834 yeah, so I would block kid a, and block kid b, 597 00:29:52,878 --> 00:29:57,360 and they would give Ethan's number... then they started texting Gavin. 598 00:29:57,404 --> 00:30:01,234 They had Gavin's ID and messages were coming in through... 599 00:30:01,277 --> 00:30:03,105 Gavin was what, six at the time. 600 00:30:03,149 --> 00:30:05,455 -They were relentless. -He was the target. 601 00:30:05,499 --> 00:30:07,327 It was relentless. 602 00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:10,678 When I finally did get a phone in seventh grade, it... 603 00:30:10,721 --> 00:30:14,247 it got bad because I also got Snapchat around the same time. 604 00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:17,032 And so, I could now see what he was posting about me. 605 00:30:17,076 --> 00:30:20,993 -Every kid sees this happening. -It's hitting a much larger and broader audience 606 00:30:21,036 --> 00:30:24,910 than it ever used to, you know, and sometimes people pile on. 607 00:30:24,953 --> 00:30:28,043 It's another thing when the bully gets 25 people 608 00:30:28,087 --> 00:30:30,916 on a text thread and it's all directed at you. 609 00:30:30,959 --> 00:30:33,744 It's just... it's a different scale and it's a different time. 610 00:30:33,788 --> 00:30:36,617 It's an amplifier for the worst parts of us. 611 00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:38,358 Let's take an example like Twitter. 612 00:30:38,401 --> 00:30:40,055 It's calculating what is the thing 613 00:30:40,099 --> 00:30:41,448 that I can show you 614 00:30:41,491 --> 00:30:43,363 that gets the most engagement. 615 00:30:43,406 --> 00:30:46,061 And it turns out that outrage... moral outrage 616 00:30:46,105 --> 00:30:48,803 gets the most engagement. So it was found in a study that 617 00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:52,328 for every word of moral outrage that you add to a tweet 618 00:30:52,372 --> 00:30:55,027 it increases your re-tweet rate by 17%. 619 00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:57,246 If they didn't have tech, 620 00:30:57,290 --> 00:31:00,162 I swear they would have a black eye every day. 621 00:31:00,206 --> 00:31:02,208 There are just so many more channels through which 622 00:31:02,251 --> 00:31:05,820 I can be a complete jerk that don't involve me being 623 00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:08,518 in front of you which is the great neutralizer 624 00:31:08,562 --> 00:31:12,522 of cruelty because if I see you and I look you in the eye, 625 00:31:12,566 --> 00:31:15,743 we tend to treat each other differently. 626 00:31:15,786 --> 00:31:17,919 He was having a really difficult time. 627 00:31:17,963 --> 00:31:20,879 He was very agitated and it was... 628 00:31:20,922 --> 00:31:23,316 It had to do with his phone and I couldn't understand 629 00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:26,536 because we'd found some text messages on it that concerned me. 630 00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:29,409 And I asked him about it and I took the phone from him 631 00:31:29,452 --> 00:31:34,675 and we talked, shared some tears and I said, "Really son, what's going on here?" 632 00:31:34,718 --> 00:31:38,331 Couple days after Christmas the stomach pains got so bad we had to go to the emergency room. 633 00:31:38,374 --> 00:31:41,769 I was convinced he had appendicitis, he was in so much pain. 634 00:31:41,812 --> 00:31:44,250 He threw up two or three times. 635 00:31:44,293 --> 00:31:47,079 His blood work's good. This is weird, we don't know. 636 00:31:47,122 --> 00:31:49,733 And I knew in that moment it was anxiety. I knew it. 637 00:31:49,777 --> 00:31:52,475 We got him through the other side, but there was a place there 638 00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,174 where it was so dark I thought this is it. 639 00:31:55,217 --> 00:31:58,699 That's... this is that tipping moment where we lost our kid. 640 00:31:58,742 --> 00:32:03,878 Certainly the... yeah, there's an element that kids need to learn resilience 641 00:32:03,922 --> 00:32:07,403 and they need to understand that people are not always going to agree with them 642 00:32:07,447 --> 00:32:11,364 and they may even tease them. And there's an element 643 00:32:11,407 --> 00:32:14,584 that that's okay because that's... we can't 644 00:32:14,628 --> 00:32:17,457 train kids to expect that they will always be shielded 645 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:19,676 from any negative thing in their life. 646 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,941 That said it's important for a parent to know 647 00:32:22,984 --> 00:32:25,204 where in the spectrum it is for your child 648 00:32:25,247 --> 00:32:27,467 relative to where they are in their developmental cycle. 649 00:32:27,510 --> 00:32:31,036 So it's definitely there. It's definitely there, but 650 00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:35,257 I'm certain it's probably more behind people's backs nowadays. 651 00:32:35,301 --> 00:32:38,043 Cyber bullying is definitely like Charlie said, 652 00:32:38,086 --> 00:32:41,176 a lot more subtle than people like to make it out to be. 653 00:32:41,220 --> 00:32:43,918 So what happens when somebody takes somebody off Instagram? 654 00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:46,268 -Oh, it's a big thing. -It's a big deal. When you block 655 00:32:46,312 --> 00:32:48,053 somebody on Instagram you can tell, 656 00:32:48,096 --> 00:32:50,620 we all know the signs when somebody blocks you 657 00:32:50,664 --> 00:32:52,709 and it's like a big thing because, 658 00:32:52,753 --> 00:32:55,625 you know, this person doesn't like you anymore. 659 00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:59,064 [Chris] That group photo where I don't tag that one girl. 660 00:32:59,107 --> 00:33:01,109 Their parents may not pick up on that, 661 00:33:01,153 --> 00:33:03,764 but that is a subtle way of saying, I'm not going to tag you 662 00:33:03,807 --> 00:33:07,333 or I'm not going to like that photo or whatever it might be. 663 00:33:07,376 --> 00:33:11,206 We've attached worth to those things and that's a little subtle jab 664 00:33:12,468 --> 00:33:15,863 that kids are doing all the time. I see it. I hear it. 665 00:33:15,906 --> 00:33:18,257 [Kelly] What about the constant awareness that 666 00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:21,608 you're not invited to something or you're being left out? 667 00:33:21,651 --> 00:33:26,917 I hate that. Nothing makes me more upset than that. 668 00:33:26,961 --> 00:33:28,832 When people hang out or do something cooler than you, 669 00:33:28,876 --> 00:33:30,617 they're going to post it and then it just shows like, 670 00:33:30,660 --> 00:33:32,227 "Hey, you're not here. 671 00:33:32,271 --> 00:33:33,576 You know, you suck." 672 00:33:35,056 --> 00:33:37,841 I would actually like be like, "What did I do wrong? 673 00:33:37,885 --> 00:33:40,888 I must have done something wrong like I need to fix something about my character, 674 00:33:40,931 --> 00:33:44,326 like I just need to completely change myself. 675 00:33:44,370 --> 00:33:46,198 Who would be the person that would be invited 676 00:33:46,241 --> 00:33:48,200 and then make myself into that?" 677 00:33:49,157 --> 00:33:51,768 It's not outright and it's not something 678 00:33:51,812 --> 00:33:53,901 you can just see when you go online. 679 00:33:53,944 --> 00:33:55,816 It's something that's behind the scenes 680 00:33:55,859 --> 00:33:57,992 and it's something that affects someone 681 00:33:58,036 --> 00:34:00,386 over years and years and... 682 00:34:00,429 --> 00:34:03,693 and slowly changes the way they think. 683 00:34:12,572 --> 00:34:14,965 [man 6] How easy was pornography to come across? 684 00:34:15,009 --> 00:34:17,838 -Oh, boy! -[man 6] Yeah. Oh, boy! 685 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,101 -Yeah, like Mom, Dad, don't watch this. -I know. 686 00:34:20,145 --> 00:34:21,929 I had a trunk and I had ways to hide it. 687 00:34:21,972 --> 00:34:23,887 We had different methods of finding it. 688 00:34:23,931 --> 00:34:27,413 We congregated at this one guy's house because he had 689 00:34:27,456 --> 00:34:31,069 a VHS tape that had something on it that had been recorded from Cinemax. 690 00:34:31,112 --> 00:34:32,940 Go up to your uncle, go to the bathroom up there, 691 00:34:32,983 --> 00:34:36,335 we'd take a Playboy in there... run down 692 00:34:36,378 --> 00:34:38,859 -the alley and look at it. -She brought out a few magazines. 693 00:34:38,902 --> 00:34:41,034 "Quick, you can look real quick. Somebody's coming." 694 00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:43,036 "Look at this!" And it was a Playboy magazine 695 00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:45,039 and I was like, "Goodnight! What are they doing?" 696 00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:46,475 And we thought, "This is our moment." 697 00:34:46,518 --> 00:34:48,869 You had to be MacGyver to like 698 00:34:48,911 --> 00:34:51,045 to get it, hold it, keep it. 699 00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:53,395 But they had those sex hotlines that you could call. 700 00:34:53,438 --> 00:34:56,224 -[man 7] Oh, yeah. The 1-900. -[female voice] Call me now. 701 00:34:56,268 --> 00:35:00,185 Yeah, they were like advertising on the late-night TV. 702 00:35:00,228 --> 00:35:02,361 But this was again a plan, 703 00:35:02,404 --> 00:35:05,146 like a detailed plan that had to be enacted. 704 00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:08,410 There was no other way to get access to this sort of thing. 705 00:35:08,454 --> 00:35:11,021 In the 50s we had pinup girls. 706 00:35:11,065 --> 00:35:14,199 Brigitte Bardot, Marilyn Monroe and in the 60s 707 00:35:14,242 --> 00:35:17,245 we had Girly Magazines and then in the 80s 708 00:35:17,289 --> 00:35:22,163 we had VHS and then there were chatrooms with webcams 709 00:35:22,207 --> 00:35:26,472 and now we have cell phones in kids' hands. 710 00:35:26,515 --> 00:35:27,690 [suspenseful music] 711 00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:35,220 All the physical barriers, be it physical location, right? 712 00:35:35,263 --> 00:35:37,483 Be it proximity, all those sorts of things, 713 00:35:37,526 --> 00:35:40,790 be it people, maybe they had access to it, right? 714 00:35:40,834 --> 00:35:43,053 None of those barriers exist anymore. 715 00:35:43,097 --> 00:35:44,925 I mean it's completely different now. I mean, 716 00:35:44,968 --> 00:35:48,276 it is like it's all video and it's all... 717 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,890 and watching XXX videos are a lot different than looking at a Playboy Magazine. 718 00:35:55,805 --> 00:35:59,069 The Australian study that found that about half 719 00:35:59,113 --> 00:36:05,163 of children ages 8 to 16 had exposure to pornography 720 00:36:05,206 --> 00:36:07,904 and many of those were actively seeking it out. 721 00:36:07,948 --> 00:36:10,864 27%, if you look at the unfiltered internet, 722 00:36:10,907 --> 00:36:15,129 27% of all video contents on the unfiltered internet 723 00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:17,436 is pornographic or explicit in some way. 724 00:36:17,479 --> 00:36:19,742 If I imagine every day growing up, there was a coffee table 725 00:36:19,786 --> 00:36:21,831 in my living room and there were four magazines 726 00:36:21,875 --> 00:36:24,269 on that coffee table, one of them was pornographic 727 00:36:24,312 --> 00:36:27,141 and three of them weren't and my parents just hoped 728 00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:29,752 every day that I didn't look at the wrong one. 729 00:36:31,058 --> 00:36:35,105 That is what the unfiltered internet is for kids today. 730 00:36:35,149 --> 00:36:39,284 We have put little boxes of porn in their pockets 731 00:36:39,327 --> 00:36:42,809 under the guise of safety, under the guise of overprotection, 732 00:36:42,852 --> 00:36:44,941 under the guise of I have to get in touch with my kid 733 00:36:44,985 --> 00:36:47,596 all the time, every day, 24/7, 734 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,338 we have given them access to pornography that far exceeds 735 00:36:50,382 --> 00:36:53,515 anything that we ever were exposed to. 736 00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:57,563 What about porn? Does ever... do guys all watch porn? 737 00:36:57,606 --> 00:37:00,653 Okay, I like didn't even realize that, but pretty much every guy 738 00:37:00,696 --> 00:37:04,265 has like an addiction to it but no one talks about it. 739 00:37:04,309 --> 00:37:06,876 So say I'm like talking to them about it and they'll be like... 740 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,879 I'll be like, "Does that guy do it, too?" And they're like, "Yeah." 741 00:37:09,923 --> 00:37:12,969 And I'm like, "That sweet innocent boy watches it, too?" 742 00:37:13,013 --> 00:37:14,884 -Like everyone. -Everyone. 743 00:37:14,928 --> 00:37:17,409 Everyone no, no, like every everyone watches it. 744 00:37:17,452 --> 00:37:19,541 How many guys and girls do you guys know that watch porn? 745 00:37:20,499 --> 00:37:22,805 I'd say all guys pretty much. 746 00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:25,025 I think I know one guy in my school. I think 747 00:37:25,068 --> 00:37:26,548 I've talked to one that I can confidently say 748 00:37:26,592 --> 00:37:28,376 hasn't and nobody else. 749 00:37:28,420 --> 00:37:30,639 You know, it's very prevalent 750 00:37:30,683 --> 00:37:31,945 and like everybody knows it. 751 00:37:31,988 --> 00:37:33,860 They watch porn for fun. 752 00:37:33,903 --> 00:37:35,862 They don't even watch it for any sexual release. 753 00:37:35,905 --> 00:37:37,342 They just watch it to watch it. 754 00:37:37,385 --> 00:37:39,169 Do you think parents 755 00:37:39,213 --> 00:37:41,694 really have any clue of how significant 756 00:37:41,737 --> 00:37:45,437 of an issue pornography is in... in kids? 757 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,569 No. They're... they're pretty clueless. 758 00:37:47,613 --> 00:37:49,005 -[girl] Yeah. -Okay. 759 00:38:02,584 --> 00:38:04,020 What percentage? 760 00:38:04,064 --> 00:38:05,892 It is on every platform, 761 00:38:05,935 --> 00:38:08,068 even the platforms that parents think it's not on. 762 00:38:08,111 --> 00:38:11,724 Just, for example, Twitter which is one 763 00:38:11,767 --> 00:38:14,640 that most adults probably use. They probably know Twitter. 764 00:38:14,683 --> 00:38:17,295 Snapchat is where explicit content on Pornhub 765 00:38:17,338 --> 00:38:19,297 lives just seconds away from every user 766 00:38:19,340 --> 00:38:21,211 through backdoors within the app. 767 00:38:21,255 --> 00:38:22,952 The app knowingly allows 768 00:38:22,996 --> 00:38:25,303 a well-documented list of porn performers 769 00:38:25,346 --> 00:38:27,609 to make thousands of dollars daily 770 00:38:27,653 --> 00:38:29,916 through their premium Snap accounts. 771 00:38:29,959 --> 00:38:32,701 The people behind pornography know 772 00:38:32,745 --> 00:38:35,400 how to optimize their content for search terms. 773 00:38:35,443 --> 00:38:38,446 Pornographers, any new technology 774 00:38:38,490 --> 00:38:41,928 that comes out they immediately saturate it. 775 00:38:41,971 --> 00:38:44,626 They know about it before... as it's getting ready 776 00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:48,108 to come out and they are ready with every strategy to saturate it. 777 00:38:48,151 --> 00:38:51,764 At what age did like watching porn become common? 778 00:38:51,807 --> 00:38:54,288 -I'd say seventh grade. -Yeah, middle school. 779 00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:57,030 Ninth and tenth grade, I remember guys being like, 780 00:38:57,073 --> 00:39:01,121 "Yeah, like I had an issue in seventh grade." And I'm like, "I'm sorry. What?" 781 00:39:01,164 --> 00:39:03,950 What I say to parents is it's time for every parent on Earth 782 00:39:03,993 --> 00:39:06,474 to leave the ignorance of the land of "if" 783 00:39:06,518 --> 00:39:09,521 and embrace the reality of "when". 784 00:39:09,564 --> 00:39:14,090 The film we'll see this morning will give the answers to these questions. 785 00:39:14,134 --> 00:39:17,180 It will also show the earliest phases of growth 786 00:39:17,224 --> 00:39:21,271 as well as the changes that take place during childhood and adolescence. 787 00:39:21,315 --> 00:39:25,450 So when my parents were addressing the birds and the bees with me 788 00:39:25,493 --> 00:39:27,408 there was no conversation. 789 00:39:28,888 --> 00:39:33,283 I walked out more confused after the conversation than when it started. 790 00:39:33,327 --> 00:39:37,549 We don't talk about those things at all. 791 00:39:37,592 --> 00:39:43,119 Now, sex. Sex, sex, sex. Where were we? 792 00:39:43,163 --> 00:39:46,514 It's absolutely normal to be curious about sexuality. 793 00:39:46,558 --> 00:39:49,212 It's normal to be interested. 794 00:39:49,256 --> 00:39:52,694 Don't have sex because you will get pregnant and die. 795 00:39:52,738 --> 00:39:55,044 Just don't do it, promise? 796 00:39:56,176 --> 00:39:58,004 Okay, everybody take some rubbers. 797 00:39:58,047 --> 00:40:00,310 My dad had conversations with me 798 00:40:00,354 --> 00:40:02,008 when I was a teenage girl. 799 00:40:02,051 --> 00:40:05,185 Like I asked him and he was very blunt 800 00:40:05,228 --> 00:40:08,797 -and just told me. -Do you think kids are using 801 00:40:08,841 --> 00:40:10,582 pornography as sex education? 802 00:40:10,625 --> 00:40:13,323 -Yeah. -Okay. 803 00:40:13,367 --> 00:40:16,370 Because I feel like they don't want to like 804 00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:19,329 talk to like a parent or like a guidance counselor 805 00:40:19,373 --> 00:40:22,811 or anything like that because it's awkward. It's an awkward topic to talk about. 806 00:40:22,855 --> 00:40:26,032 Like I said I have three classes right now 807 00:40:26,075 --> 00:40:30,515 and they all are going like over... 808 00:40:30,558 --> 00:40:33,474 like sex ed-type things and it's really boring. 809 00:40:33,518 --> 00:40:37,957 So a lot of the times I don't like... I just kind of like tune it out. 810 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,047 This is a tool for sex education for a lot of children. 811 00:40:41,090 --> 00:40:44,267 They are learning so many wrong things 812 00:40:44,311 --> 00:40:47,445 not only about sex, but about relationships. 813 00:40:47,488 --> 00:40:49,925 [girl] Guys, especially our age like... 814 00:40:49,969 --> 00:40:53,189 they just like watch porn to like be fulfilled in their own ways. 815 00:40:53,233 --> 00:40:56,497 So then they're just like... like, if my girl can't do 816 00:40:56,541 --> 00:40:59,631 the same thing that these people are doing, then something's off. 817 00:40:59,674 --> 00:41:02,024 I don't want to be compared to like a porn star like... 818 00:41:13,906 --> 00:41:16,430 -Wow! -There's like certain guys that I've hooked up with 819 00:41:16,474 --> 00:41:18,563 and I'm like, "This is really aggressive. 820 00:41:18,606 --> 00:41:20,347 Like this is too much for me." 821 00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:23,132 And then I'm like... and it's just terrible. 822 00:41:23,176 --> 00:41:25,265 I'm like this is so bad. Because I haven't had sex, yet, 823 00:41:25,308 --> 00:41:28,181 like people... or like the guys will like ask 824 00:41:28,224 --> 00:41:30,183 and I'm like, "No, I don't want to do that with you." 825 00:41:30,226 --> 00:41:31,967 And they're like, "Are you kidding me?" 826 00:41:32,011 --> 00:41:34,535 -Like, they get so mad. -Guys get this image 827 00:41:34,579 --> 00:41:37,407 in their head that that's how intimacy goes 828 00:41:37,451 --> 00:41:39,148 and that's how sex goes and... 829 00:41:39,192 --> 00:41:41,542 There's definitely a bigger population 830 00:41:41,586 --> 00:41:44,327 of guys that feel that way now than they were... 831 00:41:44,371 --> 00:41:46,112 they were even like five years ago. 832 00:41:56,122 --> 00:41:58,211 [Chris] The science is still emerging 833 00:41:58,254 --> 00:42:00,518 but I just happen to live in the camp 834 00:42:00,561 --> 00:42:03,564 that when young people are exposed 835 00:42:03,608 --> 00:42:06,001 to large amounts of pornography, 836 00:42:06,045 --> 00:42:08,917 it shapes the way that they see other people. 837 00:42:08,961 --> 00:42:12,051 I happen to be somebody who at a very young age 838 00:42:12,094 --> 00:42:13,922 was exposed to pornography. 839 00:42:13,966 --> 00:42:18,623 I discovered a stack, you know, of magazines 840 00:42:18,666 --> 00:42:23,541 when I was way too young and that planted a lot of curiosities in me 841 00:42:23,584 --> 00:42:25,760 that I wasn't ready for, quite honestly. 842 00:42:25,804 --> 00:42:27,893 I didn't know what to do with that. 843 00:42:27,936 --> 00:42:30,678 And we could talk a long time about what that did to me 844 00:42:30,722 --> 00:42:35,074 later in life and what that did to distort just my views 845 00:42:35,117 --> 00:42:37,903 of sex and intimacy even as a, you know, a young adult 846 00:42:37,946 --> 00:42:41,254 and as a married man, even leading to an addiction 847 00:42:41,297 --> 00:42:44,953 of my own to pornography that was destructive in a lot of ways. 848 00:42:44,997 --> 00:42:48,653 That was years ago but I can link all of those things together. 849 00:42:48,696 --> 00:42:50,785 And I'm a guy that did not grow up in the digital age, 850 00:42:50,829 --> 00:42:54,963 yet, I was exposed to something that I wasn't ready for. 851 00:42:55,007 --> 00:42:57,618 I didn't have anybody who was giving me any sort 852 00:42:57,662 --> 00:43:00,403 of baseline to compare that to, 853 00:43:00,447 --> 00:43:04,190 so a combination of that early exposure plus the internet 854 00:43:04,233 --> 00:43:06,801 became a very toxic thing for my life. 855 00:43:06,845 --> 00:43:11,850 I feel like a lot of porn does... I guess... show 856 00:43:11,893 --> 00:43:15,027 the women as more submissive and it kind of 857 00:43:15,070 --> 00:43:18,508 puts that idea, I guess, in boys' minds. 858 00:43:18,552 --> 00:43:21,686 It just leads to guys objectifying women a lot, 859 00:43:21,729 --> 00:43:24,993 you know, and then they forget about the whole relationship part 860 00:43:25,037 --> 00:43:28,736 and that's all they think of now is just sex because that's all they've seen. 861 00:43:28,780 --> 00:43:31,565 I know we've been talking about like a lot of like guys are like 862 00:43:31,609 --> 00:43:34,220 -into pornography, but like a lot of girls are, too. -[Free] Absolutely. 863 00:43:34,263 --> 00:43:36,788 I don't even think parents have like the 864 00:43:36,831 --> 00:43:39,486 birds and the bees talk anymore because kids will know about it 865 00:43:39,529 --> 00:43:42,271 by the time they're like eight if they have access to social media. 866 00:43:43,838 --> 00:43:46,362 -[man 8] Yeah? -It's just, honestly, I've thought... 867 00:43:47,712 --> 00:43:50,802 But it's just faster now and it's younger. 868 00:43:50,845 --> 00:43:55,371 [Patti] 20% of youth report that they came across at children, 869 00:43:55,415 --> 00:43:57,286 you know, that it was unwanted. 870 00:43:57,330 --> 00:43:59,549 But we can now be in different places 871 00:43:59,593 --> 00:44:03,771 and we're in a group chat and somebody shares it, 872 00:44:03,815 --> 00:44:05,599 everybody's got it if they open it. 873 00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:07,732 And in the elementary schools that I'm in, 874 00:44:07,775 --> 00:44:10,735 I typically hear counselors saying, "Yeah, we've got kids 875 00:44:10,778 --> 00:44:14,042 that are already seeking that out in the elementary school age." 876 00:44:14,086 --> 00:44:16,262 Sex is not something that is easy to talk about 877 00:44:16,305 --> 00:44:18,743 with your kid at any age, but it's something that you 878 00:44:18,786 --> 00:44:21,397 absolutely have to talk about, and at a younger age 879 00:44:21,441 --> 00:44:24,400 than you might think because even if he couldn't 880 00:44:24,444 --> 00:44:28,056 access pornography on his personal device 881 00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:31,016 or through our home, you know, cable, 882 00:44:31,059 --> 00:44:33,148 somebody on the bus probably could. 883 00:44:36,195 --> 00:44:40,503 This mother proceeded to tell me, her son was 11 years old, 884 00:44:40,547 --> 00:44:42,941 but when he was nine years old 885 00:44:42,984 --> 00:44:44,856 he went to sleep over at a friend's house, 886 00:44:44,899 --> 00:44:46,727 a family that they knew quite well. 887 00:44:46,771 --> 00:44:51,863 And this son, his friend showed him pornography, 888 00:44:51,906 --> 00:44:55,693 um, hardcore, really horrible stuff 889 00:44:55,736 --> 00:44:58,739 on the iPad at the sleepover 890 00:44:58,783 --> 00:45:03,265 and then proceeded to practice that pornography on her son. 891 00:45:04,223 --> 00:45:06,486 That was when he was nine years old. 892 00:45:06,529 --> 00:45:09,924 Okay, fast forward two years, he's now 11. 893 00:45:09,968 --> 00:45:12,405 He's never told anybody about this, 894 00:45:12,448 --> 00:45:16,583 but mom has noticed that, "My son just isn't happy anymore", 895 00:45:16,626 --> 00:45:18,846 and she sat down and had a conversation with him 896 00:45:18,890 --> 00:45:21,457 and found out through this conversation 897 00:45:21,501 --> 00:45:25,287 that for two years he had held on to this secret 898 00:45:25,331 --> 00:45:27,855 and he felt so much shame and guilt that there was something wrong 899 00:45:27,899 --> 00:45:29,770 with him, that he did something wrong. 900 00:45:29,814 --> 00:45:32,120 And so, for two years he held on 901 00:45:32,164 --> 00:45:37,082 to this corrosive secret that started on an iPad. 902 00:45:37,125 --> 00:45:40,476 The number one common denominator 903 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,870 of those who abuse other kids 904 00:45:42,914 --> 00:45:46,178 is an early exposure to pornography 905 00:45:46,221 --> 00:45:47,919 because what they see, 906 00:45:47,962 --> 00:45:51,705 they feel neurologically compelled to do. 907 00:45:51,749 --> 00:45:53,315 [soft music] 908 00:46:23,781 --> 00:46:27,349 I guess my first boyfriend was... 909 00:46:27,393 --> 00:46:30,700 I was college age when I had my first boyfriend. 910 00:46:31,876 --> 00:46:35,183 We would have hay rides or winter roasts 911 00:46:35,227 --> 00:46:38,056 or it was more... more like just groups of people. 912 00:46:39,057 --> 00:46:42,582 Now, after you finished 4-h they had what they'd call 913 00:46:42,625 --> 00:46:44,932 rural youth and that's how I met my husband. 914 00:46:44,976 --> 00:46:48,893 We would meet once a month and... and maybe have a dance 915 00:46:48,936 --> 00:46:52,679 or a lot of those square dancing and everybody was a... 916 00:46:52,722 --> 00:46:56,335 would bring food and... and there were a lot of marriages. 917 00:46:56,378 --> 00:47:02,254 My friend, Mary Lou and I both met our husbands through rural youth. 918 00:47:02,297 --> 00:47:06,084 So that's how I met my... that's how I met my Mr. Right. 919 00:47:07,172 --> 00:47:08,390 [soft music] 920 00:47:14,701 --> 00:47:19,401 Dating in 2020. How do dating relationships begin? 921 00:47:19,445 --> 00:47:21,534 A guy says you're hot, pretty much. 922 00:47:22,665 --> 00:47:24,972 The guy will like add you on Snapchat 923 00:47:25,016 --> 00:47:27,322 and then you might like say you like each other, but you know, 924 00:47:27,366 --> 00:47:29,803 of course, it's over text it's not face to face. 925 00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:32,850 -Then you guys might have a thing. -Hooking up with each other. 926 00:47:32,893 --> 00:47:35,983 -Or when you like... -So you hook up before you are dating. 927 00:47:36,027 --> 00:47:38,681 -Yes. -People don't really like... 928 00:47:38,725 --> 00:47:41,380 go on any dates. It's kind of you just like hang out 929 00:47:41,423 --> 00:47:44,774 or like guys just use you. It's true. 930 00:47:44,818 --> 00:47:48,561 -[girl] Right. -We couldn't communicate in person 931 00:47:48,604 --> 00:47:50,780 because we'd like built the relationship online. 932 00:47:50,824 --> 00:47:53,131 I had like the same experience. 933 00:47:53,174 --> 00:47:57,048 Only after about three months he asked for nudes 934 00:47:57,091 --> 00:48:01,791 and when I said no, I don't send them, he dumped me. 935 00:48:01,835 --> 00:48:05,665 [Patti] For many young people, sexting 936 00:48:05,708 --> 00:48:07,972 could be considered the new first base. 937 00:48:08,015 --> 00:48:09,843 Kids call it nudes. We call it sexting. 938 00:48:09,887 --> 00:48:12,150 Yeah, no. Everybody knows what it is. 939 00:48:12,193 --> 00:48:14,587 Everyone knows sexting is a thing. 940 00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:18,983 My school... sending nudes is very common. 941 00:48:19,026 --> 00:48:21,637 It's mainly between people who aren't actually dating. 942 00:48:21,681 --> 00:48:24,553 [man 9] Do you know of anyone who's been affected by that 943 00:48:24,597 --> 00:48:26,468 at all in your school? 944 00:48:26,512 --> 00:48:29,471 -Affected by a sexting? -[man 9] Yeah, yeah. 945 00:48:29,515 --> 00:48:31,952 Like have had an incident or a bad thing happen to them. 946 00:48:31,996 --> 00:48:37,001 Well, yeah. Like nudes of girls go around the school all the time. 947 00:48:37,044 --> 00:48:38,263 -[man 9] Really? -Yeah. 948 00:48:39,873 --> 00:48:44,399 We are seeing more and more young people that expect to jump 949 00:48:44,443 --> 00:48:49,143 right into sexual acts without the relationship portion before that, 950 00:48:49,187 --> 00:48:53,060 without getting to know each other, without going on that first date, 951 00:48:53,104 --> 00:48:56,977 without holding hands, without having that first kiss. 952 00:48:57,021 --> 00:48:59,371 They're jumping straight to send me nude photos, 953 00:48:59,414 --> 00:49:02,287 send me a video of you masturbating 954 00:49:02,330 --> 00:49:04,637 and that's happening younger and younger. 955 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,031 But in eighth grade there was like two different groups 956 00:49:07,074 --> 00:49:10,251 and it was like, the group of people that like did 957 00:49:10,295 --> 00:49:13,124 like send nudes or like did all these things 958 00:49:13,167 --> 00:49:15,213 and then the group of girls that like didn't do it. 959 00:49:15,256 --> 00:49:17,998 And there was a very distinct... and it was eighth grade. 960 00:49:18,042 --> 00:49:20,870 -And that's what divided the groups? -Honestly, yeah. 961 00:49:20,914 --> 00:49:23,656 And like, now like, my brother's in middle school and like, 962 00:49:23,699 --> 00:49:25,919 I... I sometimes hear him and then like 963 00:49:25,963 --> 00:49:27,703 a bunch of kids I babysit middle school, like, 964 00:49:27,747 --> 00:49:29,967 it's happening younger and younger. And... 965 00:49:31,794 --> 00:49:33,796 I mean like, sixth and seventh grade. 966 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,582 Like with sexting, while the studies typically focus 967 00:49:36,625 --> 00:49:39,150 on the ages of... of 12 and older, 968 00:49:39,193 --> 00:49:41,674 I've been in schools, elementary schools where sexting 969 00:49:41,717 --> 00:49:44,807 has already occurred with 10- and 11-year-olds. 970 00:49:46,505 --> 00:49:50,335 We have a lot of teachers and counselors coming 971 00:49:50,378 --> 00:49:54,817 like trying to discourage us from doing that type of thing, 972 00:49:54,861 --> 00:49:57,646 but, obviously, people don't listen. 973 00:49:57,690 --> 00:50:01,259 Like, if you have a teacher or just someone 974 00:50:01,302 --> 00:50:03,870 like telling you constantly not to do it, 975 00:50:03,913 --> 00:50:07,221 it makes you more just want to do it and like to try it out. 976 00:50:07,265 --> 00:50:09,658 Is that amount of communication 977 00:50:09,702 --> 00:50:12,052 needed before a boy feels 978 00:50:12,096 --> 00:50:14,272 comfortable asking somebody by text for a nude? 979 00:50:14,315 --> 00:50:16,448 You're pretty much lucky if you get about two weeks 980 00:50:16,491 --> 00:50:18,537 into talking to them before they ask. 981 00:50:18,580 --> 00:50:20,974 Or even sometimes they won't even like just like talk to you. 982 00:50:21,018 --> 00:50:22,845 -Like they just... -[girl] Demand it. 983 00:50:22,889 --> 00:50:25,239 -Yeah. -Or send their own 984 00:50:25,283 --> 00:50:27,720 -without us asking. -Yeah. 985 00:50:27,763 --> 00:50:30,549 And what about guys? Do they send nudes? 986 00:50:30,592 --> 00:50:33,117 Yeah, they're disgusting. Who wants to see that? 987 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,294 -I wish they wouldn't. -No, one time I was with a friend 988 00:50:36,337 --> 00:50:40,124 and we were... we were having a sleepover, woke up, good morn... 989 00:50:40,167 --> 00:50:42,387 it was 8 AM. I was like, I don't need to see this. 990 00:50:42,430 --> 00:50:44,389 They're more unsolicited like 991 00:50:44,432 --> 00:50:46,434 most of my friends have gotten them and... 992 00:50:46,478 --> 00:50:48,045 I feel like for girls for the most part 993 00:50:48,088 --> 00:50:49,568 get disgusted by it. 994 00:50:49,611 --> 00:50:51,700 What do you think percentage-wise 995 00:50:51,744 --> 00:50:53,528 of girls have received them? 996 00:50:53,572 --> 00:50:56,270 -High percentage. -Probably more than half. 997 00:50:56,314 --> 00:50:57,445 -Yeah. -More than half. 998 00:50:57,489 --> 00:50:58,664 [boy] Do a lot of people 999 00:50:58,707 --> 00:51:00,013 you guys know send nudes? 1000 00:51:03,669 --> 00:51:04,757 In middle school... 1001 00:51:06,933 --> 00:51:08,717 -That was a huge thing. -Oh, yeah. 1002 00:51:08,761 --> 00:51:11,242 -You guys have huge problems. -Scandals. 1003 00:51:11,285 --> 00:51:13,374 They're... there are like these rings almost, 1004 00:51:13,418 --> 00:51:16,116 so they gotten caught and the police would get involved. 1005 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,337 In middle school that's like the peak 1006 00:51:19,380 --> 00:51:21,730 of like which is totally messed up. 1007 00:51:21,774 --> 00:51:24,342 It's just so casual, but then when a girl does it 1008 00:51:24,385 --> 00:51:26,561 it's totally different and looked down upon kind of. 1009 00:51:26,605 --> 00:51:29,956 Some girls I know, like, they just like won't say no 1010 00:51:29,999 --> 00:51:32,480 because they're like scared of like the repercussions 1011 00:51:32,524 --> 00:51:35,092 because they don't want to be yelled at or called a prude, or like... 1012 00:51:35,135 --> 00:51:36,832 And you're constantly judged. 1013 00:51:36,876 --> 00:51:38,747 That's so true like they're either like, 1014 00:51:38,791 --> 00:51:40,445 "Oh, well she's a slut and will do anything." 1015 00:51:40,488 --> 00:51:42,621 Or, "She won't do anything with guys." 1016 00:51:42,664 --> 00:51:44,013 And there's really like no in between. 1017 00:51:44,057 --> 00:51:46,015 It's a no-win situation. 1018 00:51:46,059 --> 00:51:48,583 If you give it to a boy and then you're a slut, 1019 00:51:48,627 --> 00:51:50,324 then the girls find out about it, 1020 00:51:50,368 --> 00:51:52,326 then you're cyber bullied by the girls. 1021 00:51:52,370 --> 00:51:55,373 If you don't give it, then some girls will even jump 1022 00:51:55,416 --> 00:51:58,506 on the bandwagon, "You know, I gave it to so-and-so, 1023 00:51:58,550 --> 00:52:00,117 what's the problem? Why won't you do it?" 1024 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,206 What do you do in that situation? 1025 00:52:02,249 --> 00:52:05,034 Because you, you know, you can't win. 1026 00:52:05,078 --> 00:52:08,647 I don't think people think it's a positive 1027 00:52:08,690 --> 00:52:10,692 for doing that type of thing, 1028 00:52:10,736 --> 00:52:12,781 but it definitely gives you a lot of clout. 1029 00:52:12,825 --> 00:52:16,611 You have a lot of attention on you, like good or bad. 1030 00:52:16,655 --> 00:52:19,962 And so, people definitely like want clout. 1031 00:52:20,006 --> 00:52:22,226 They like do like almost anything 1032 00:52:22,269 --> 00:52:24,402 just for people to, like, pay attention to them. 1033 00:52:24,445 --> 00:52:28,101 If the good girl sends Johnny something 1034 00:52:28,145 --> 00:52:31,148 that she normally wouldn't, everyone's going to be like, 1035 00:52:31,191 --> 00:52:33,150 "Let's get more." 1036 00:52:33,193 --> 00:52:35,195 [girl] And then all the guys will go after her, too. 1037 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:40,069 [girl] She's got like 20 new adds on Snapchat, three new DMs. 1038 00:52:40,113 --> 00:52:43,072 But behind closed doors people are like, "She is a whore." 1039 00:52:43,116 --> 00:52:44,900 And people act cool around her, but like 1040 00:52:44,944 --> 00:52:46,859 behind closed doors, people hate her. 1041 00:52:46,902 --> 00:52:50,210 Let's say your daughter was dating a football player. 1042 00:52:50,254 --> 00:52:52,778 She breaks up with him, she hasn't had sex with him, 1043 00:52:52,821 --> 00:52:54,693 but he says you need to give me a little something, something, 1044 00:52:54,736 --> 00:52:56,956 some pictures and then I'll stay in the relationship. 1045 00:52:56,999 --> 00:52:59,176 So she does it. She gets pressured and she does it 1046 00:52:59,219 --> 00:53:01,917 and they break up. Well, I talk to kids all the time, 1047 00:53:01,961 --> 00:53:04,442 "What happens when you break up with those pictures?" 1048 00:53:04,485 --> 00:53:05,791 Let me take it a step further. 1049 00:53:05,834 --> 00:53:07,575 "What happens 1050 00:53:07,619 --> 00:53:09,055 when you break up with your boyfriend 1051 00:53:09,098 --> 00:53:10,665 and his new girlfriend goes 1052 00:53:10,709 --> 00:53:12,885 in his phone and finds her pictures?" 1053 00:53:12,928 --> 00:53:15,714 -It gets distributed. -Especially with Snapchat 1054 00:53:15,757 --> 00:53:19,674 which was kind of more or less created for that exact purpose. 1055 00:53:19,718 --> 00:53:21,546 It gives people a sense of... 1056 00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:23,852 like, "Oh, it's not that serious. 1057 00:53:23,896 --> 00:53:26,203 The pictures go away." But... 1058 00:53:26,246 --> 00:53:29,989 we all can realize now and look back and say, "Well, no. 1059 00:53:30,032 --> 00:53:33,427 -That's definitely not true." -Yeah, once something is out on the internet, 1060 00:53:33,471 --> 00:53:35,995 social media will latch on to it, people will download it. 1061 00:53:36,038 --> 00:53:38,302 So it's like a dropbox and it was like, I guess, 1062 00:53:38,345 --> 00:53:42,349 some guy like went to our school, made it 1063 00:53:42,393 --> 00:53:46,832 and it's like, just girls nudes, just like just random people. 1064 00:53:46,875 --> 00:53:50,792 -It's what all the guys do. -Anyone can access to see it. 1065 00:53:50,836 --> 00:53:53,969 And there was like a list of like all the people that had accessed it, 1066 00:53:54,013 --> 00:53:56,537 it was even like people that you wouldn't think really, like, 1067 00:53:56,581 --> 00:54:00,019 good guys that you wouldn't think would engage in that kind of stuff, 1068 00:54:00,062 --> 00:54:03,370 but some girls had no idea that their pictures were out in the open for everyone. 1069 00:54:03,414 --> 00:54:05,807 All of these naked pictures and videos 1070 00:54:05,851 --> 00:54:08,984 guys get from girls they went to high school with, 1071 00:54:09,028 --> 00:54:11,596 they're in their college dorm, they go on a9 IB. 1072 00:54:11,639 --> 00:54:13,511 and they trade them like Yu-Gi-Oh! cards. 1073 00:54:13,554 --> 00:54:16,731 I mean this girl that I grew up with she had 1074 00:54:16,775 --> 00:54:19,560 a sex tape actually and it was leaked. 1075 00:54:19,604 --> 00:54:22,302 I remember even I who didn't even go there had access to it, 1076 00:54:22,346 --> 00:54:24,913 but it was sent around and we were freshmen. 1077 00:54:26,698 --> 00:54:29,309 One of my most hated terms is "Not my kid". 1078 00:54:29,353 --> 00:54:32,791 Parents suffer from a disease called the NMK syndrome. 1079 00:54:32,834 --> 00:54:34,880 It's described as "Not my kid." 1080 00:54:34,923 --> 00:54:36,969 "My kid won't do that. My kid would never. 1081 00:54:37,012 --> 00:54:39,058 My kid's friends aren't like that. 1082 00:54:39,101 --> 00:54:42,888 My kid's school isn't like that." You're wrong. 1083 00:54:42,931 --> 00:54:46,631 Everybody's community is like that. Every school is like that. 1084 00:54:46,674 --> 00:54:49,895 Every kid has the potential to do any one of the things 1085 00:54:49,938 --> 00:54:53,159 that we're talking about here, no, even my own kid. 1086 00:55:14,136 --> 00:55:17,096 About 60% of the youth who experience 1087 00:55:17,139 --> 00:55:20,621 sextortion when it's... they're kind of blackmailed or, 1088 00:55:20,665 --> 00:55:23,537 you know, forced to send images, 1089 00:55:23,581 --> 00:55:27,019 threatened to send it, actually know their perpetrator. 1090 00:55:27,933 --> 00:55:31,371 However, we also then... about 40% met the person online 1091 00:55:31,415 --> 00:55:32,981 and sent the image. 1092 00:55:33,895 --> 00:55:36,376 [news program music] 1093 00:55:36,420 --> 00:55:38,465 [man 10] He chooses his innocent victim. 1094 00:55:38,509 --> 00:55:41,294 This time he will not think. 1095 00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:43,209 This time he is sure. 1096 00:55:43,252 --> 00:55:45,690 So, I grew up in the era of stranger danger. 1097 00:55:45,733 --> 00:55:49,302 So it was really the media that taught me more about strangers. 1098 00:55:49,346 --> 00:55:51,391 Dangerous people, you know, stranger danger. 1099 00:55:51,435 --> 00:55:53,915 If somebody tries to engage with you, run away. 1100 00:55:53,959 --> 00:55:56,570 -It's always like a van. -A white van with no windows. 1101 00:55:56,614 --> 00:55:59,617 You know, don't ever get into a car. 1102 00:55:59,660 --> 00:56:02,402 He's going to promise you a puppy and some candy. Don't fall for it. 1103 00:56:02,446 --> 00:56:05,579 We were told not to hitchhike because we would be kidnapped. 1104 00:56:05,623 --> 00:56:07,407 So in 1997, 1105 00:56:08,408 --> 00:56:11,063 we had a guy come from Brentwood, Tennessee, 1106 00:56:11,106 --> 00:56:14,545 drive up here to Naperville, met a 13-year-old 1107 00:56:14,588 --> 00:56:16,938 at the corner of her block, took her to a hotel, 1108 00:56:16,982 --> 00:56:21,247 raped her, let her go back home and she told her parents 1109 00:56:21,290 --> 00:56:23,380 that she met him on this thing called America Online. 1110 00:56:23,423 --> 00:56:25,773 [man 11] Call now for America Online. 1111 00:56:25,817 --> 00:56:27,558 A new way to use your computer to communicate. 1112 00:56:27,601 --> 00:56:30,387 My Instagram's kind of like a mix. 1113 00:56:30,430 --> 00:56:32,954 Like I would say half the people I know 1114 00:56:32,998 --> 00:56:36,175 and half the people I don't know are like friends of friends. 1115 00:56:36,218 --> 00:56:38,917 Three-fourths of it is probably my friends from like school 1116 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,355 or acquaintances I know not just random people off the internet, 1117 00:56:42,399 --> 00:56:46,620 but there is, of course, that one-fourth 1118 00:56:46,664 --> 00:56:48,840 that is random people I've never talked to 1119 00:56:48,883 --> 00:56:50,842 or don't know looking at pictures of me. 1120 00:56:50,885 --> 00:56:53,627 When it comes to Tumblr, a lot of people like follow me 1121 00:56:53,671 --> 00:56:56,500 for my stuff and that's cool. I like to have them follow me, 1122 00:56:56,543 --> 00:57:00,068 but also there's sometimes people that I don't know but follow me. 1123 00:57:00,112 --> 00:57:02,723 -I friend a lot of people. I would just... -He just friends random people. 1124 00:57:02,767 --> 00:57:06,248 -I would just join games for no reason and just go, "add friend, add friend." 1125 00:57:06,292 --> 00:57:08,033 Braxton does end up, you know, I'll be in there 1126 00:57:08,076 --> 00:57:10,383 and he's on the headphones playing Xbox 1127 00:57:10,427 --> 00:57:12,124 and I'm like, "Who are you playing with?" 1128 00:57:12,167 --> 00:57:13,821 He'll be like, "I don't know, some kid." 1129 00:57:15,127 --> 00:57:18,130 -Have you ever gotten creepy DMs from guys? -Yeah, all the time. 1130 00:57:18,173 --> 00:57:22,482 -Have you been solicited by any creeps online? -Yes. 1131 00:57:22,526 --> 00:57:25,006 He was contacted by a stranger on Instagram. 1132 00:57:25,050 --> 00:57:27,618 "Oh, like I saw your page and like I'm really... 1133 00:57:27,661 --> 00:57:29,576 like, I'm interested in like sending you money 1134 00:57:29,620 --> 00:57:31,360 for like in exchange for a picture." 1135 00:57:31,404 --> 00:57:33,841 I had people like DM me saying that 1136 00:57:33,885 --> 00:57:36,801 I'm like I'm so beautiful and he'll buy me whatever I want. 1137 00:57:36,844 --> 00:57:39,804 So we at Bark, unfortunately, detect issues 1138 00:57:39,847 --> 00:57:42,807 around online child predation very frequently. 1139 00:57:42,850 --> 00:57:45,940 Last year alone we escalated 450 online 1140 00:57:45,984 --> 00:57:47,725 child predators to law enforcement. 1141 00:57:47,768 --> 00:57:51,076 And so, we know that it's a common problem. 1142 00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:54,645 Unfortunately, we think most parents underestimate the... 1143 00:57:54,688 --> 00:57:56,385 the commonality of that problem. 1144 00:57:56,429 --> 00:57:58,953 [Titania] We decided to go undercover 1145 00:57:58,997 --> 00:58:02,522 as multiple children on social media 1146 00:58:02,566 --> 00:58:06,526 and post innocuous content to see what would happen. 1147 00:58:06,570 --> 00:58:10,008 We had to be very intentional with everything we did. 1148 00:58:10,051 --> 00:58:12,663 We had to create personas. 1149 00:58:12,706 --> 00:58:15,622 They had to have believable date of births 1150 00:58:15,666 --> 00:58:17,929 and they had to know everything about the city 1151 00:58:17,972 --> 00:58:20,540 that they lived in and we had to create story lines, 1152 00:58:20,584 --> 00:58:23,717 and we worked closely with law enforcement. 1153 00:58:23,761 --> 00:58:26,328 [Brian] And, basically, just pushed... pushed go. 1154 00:58:26,372 --> 00:58:29,462 We put the... put everything live and we documented what happened. 1155 00:58:33,597 --> 00:58:36,687 [woman 7] Within the first hour of posting on Libby's accounts, 1156 00:58:36,730 --> 00:58:38,906 seven adult men contacted her. 1157 00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:42,127 By the end of nine days that number was 92. 1158 00:58:43,302 --> 00:58:46,000 The conversations ranged in severity 1159 00:58:46,044 --> 00:58:48,960 from making sexual comments to sharing and requesting 1160 00:58:49,003 --> 00:58:53,007 explicit photos and videos to manipulation and threats. 1161 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,536 [Titania] We had to deploy an entire team, you know, around the clock 1162 00:58:59,579 --> 00:59:03,627 to responding because the... the rate at which 1163 00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:06,673 these messages came in was mind-boggling. 1164 00:59:06,717 --> 00:59:09,589 And, of course, when you're dealing with social media 1165 00:59:09,633 --> 00:59:11,635 and the internet, it's a global thing. 1166 00:59:11,678 --> 00:59:14,202 It's not just an East Coast thing or a U.S.-based thing. 1167 00:59:14,246 --> 00:59:16,465 There were men that wanted to talk to children 1168 00:59:16,509 --> 00:59:20,426 for nefarious purposes at all hours of the day and night. 1169 00:59:20,469 --> 00:59:23,211 We tried it with younger personas as well, 1170 00:59:23,255 --> 00:59:25,126 even... even an 11-year-old. 1171 00:59:30,567 --> 00:59:33,091 [woman 7] We launched our 11-year-old persona online. 1172 00:59:33,134 --> 00:59:35,484 It's 4:44 and go. 1173 00:59:37,922 --> 00:59:39,314 [suspenseful music] 1174 00:59:46,017 --> 00:59:50,108 One like from a guy whose profile photo... 1175 00:59:51,675 --> 00:59:53,328 -[gasps] -...is a penis. 1176 00:59:54,765 --> 00:59:57,463 One... That's one minute and seven seconds, 1177 00:59:57,506 --> 01:00:00,248 we have a message request. Although this... 1178 01:00:00,292 --> 01:00:02,076 I'm sorry, two more requests just came in. How much time? 1179 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,817 -A minute and 40 seconds? -Yeah. 1180 01:00:03,861 --> 01:00:06,167 -How old are you? -[Titania]You go 1181 01:00:06,211 --> 01:00:07,995 to the profile, you know that that is a child. 1182 01:00:08,039 --> 01:00:09,736 It also says in the profile 1183 01:00:09,780 --> 01:00:11,477 that the child is in sixth grade. 1184 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,349 -Another one. -[Titania] It's just lighting up 1185 01:00:14,393 --> 01:00:16,482 like the inbox is just boom, boom, boom, boom. 1186 01:00:19,616 --> 01:00:22,009 [phone ringing] 1187 01:00:22,053 --> 01:00:25,578 [woman 7] An incoming video call in less than five minutes. 1188 01:00:38,025 --> 01:00:39,723 [woman 8] They all say don't be shy. 1189 01:00:41,115 --> 01:00:43,727 This happens to all types of children. 1190 01:00:43,770 --> 01:00:46,512 This is not just kids who might be at risk. 1191 01:00:46,555 --> 01:00:50,342 You know, oftentimes it's a child who's simply bored in their bedroom at night. 1192 01:00:50,385 --> 01:00:53,693 And I cannot tell you how many children I see 1193 01:00:53,737 --> 01:00:57,784 in their bedrooms on livestream with tons of people 1194 01:00:57,828 --> 01:01:00,091 just watching them, asking them to do certain things. 1195 01:01:00,134 --> 01:01:03,572 [Richard]When parents allow their kids to have that device 1196 01:01:03,616 --> 01:01:06,750 in their rooms at night, you know, where are your parents? 1197 01:01:06,793 --> 01:01:09,796 Then come to grooming question, "Where are your parents?" 1198 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,755 Are you on an iPhone or are you on an iPad? 1199 01:01:11,798 --> 01:01:14,627 What are you wearing? Your makeup looks so beautiful." 1200 01:01:14,671 --> 01:01:16,803 It's not uncommon for grooming behavior 1201 01:01:16,847 --> 01:01:20,720 to include showing minors' images 1202 01:01:20,764 --> 01:01:23,984 of pornography to help them to think that that is normal 1203 01:01:24,028 --> 01:01:26,900 and then that can be a progression in toward... 1204 01:01:26,944 --> 01:01:29,903 towards engaging them in sexual activity. 1205 01:01:29,947 --> 01:01:33,211 Do you want that? Do you want that as a parent, 1206 01:01:33,254 --> 01:01:36,257 strangers in your child's room while you're sleeping? 1207 01:01:36,301 --> 01:01:38,825 Would you leave the door open with a sign 1208 01:01:38,869 --> 01:01:40,348 that says my daughter's bedroom is 1209 01:01:40,392 --> 01:01:41,785 the second one on the left 1210 01:01:41,828 --> 01:01:43,482 and then go to bed? 1211 01:01:43,525 --> 01:01:46,746 We have traded 1212 01:01:46,790 --> 01:01:49,749 a false sense of safety and security 1213 01:01:49,793 --> 01:01:53,100 for actually putting our kids in riskier situations. 1214 01:01:54,798 --> 01:01:57,757 There are some that are just there for a quick fix. 1215 01:01:57,801 --> 01:02:02,240 They want to see something, a body part 1216 01:02:02,283 --> 01:02:05,852 or a live video and then you might not hear from them again, 1217 01:02:05,896 --> 01:02:09,813 but there are others. They use psychological strategies 1218 01:02:09,856 --> 01:02:14,513 to methodically groom children by forming a friendship, 1219 01:02:14,556 --> 01:02:18,386 by showing care and then it escalates 1220 01:02:18,430 --> 01:02:21,041 into more of a controlling relationship. 1221 01:02:41,279 --> 01:02:45,762 What do predators do with the pictures and videos they get from kids? 1222 01:02:45,805 --> 01:02:48,634 They keep it or they trade it. 1223 01:02:48,677 --> 01:02:52,246 Last year alone we received over 18 million reports 1224 01:02:52,290 --> 01:02:56,033 of international and domestic online child sexual abuse. 1225 01:02:56,076 --> 01:02:59,688 Between 2017 and 2018 video files reported 1226 01:02:59,732 --> 01:03:03,214 to NCMEC increased 541%. 1227 01:03:03,257 --> 01:03:07,740 We're seeing reports with graphic and violent sexual images of young children, 1228 01:03:07,784 --> 01:03:11,918 including infants and reports of on-demand sexual abuse 1229 01:03:11,962 --> 01:03:13,877 known as live streaming. 1230 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,096 Unfortunately, some of those were people who wanted 1231 01:03:16,140 --> 01:03:19,012 to actually meet the child in person 1232 01:03:19,056 --> 01:03:22,450 which could have been just because they wanted to have sex with... 1233 01:03:22,494 --> 01:03:25,845 with a minor and sometimes we believe that it was 1234 01:03:25,889 --> 01:03:27,804 because they might be part of a sex trafficking ring 1235 01:03:27,847 --> 01:03:29,631 wanting to actually traffic the child. 1236 01:03:29,675 --> 01:03:31,938 [woman 7] It was a tough decision, but if Keith 1237 01:03:31,982 --> 01:03:35,072 wanted to meet Libby in person, we would let him. 1238 01:03:41,469 --> 01:03:43,384 [girl] I've never done anything like this before 1239 01:03:43,428 --> 01:03:46,126 so I'm a little nervous. 1240 01:03:48,172 --> 01:03:49,390 [girl] Yeah. 1241 01:03:52,567 --> 01:03:54,178 Are you okay with me being 15? 1242 01:04:00,445 --> 01:04:04,275 The project has also resulted in numerous arrests and that's... that's great. 1243 01:04:04,318 --> 01:04:06,973 Unfortunately, it's a drop in the bucket. 1244 01:04:07,017 --> 01:04:12,544 The average internet predator has 250 victims in their lifetime. 1245 01:04:12,587 --> 01:04:15,242 One person has that many victims in their lifetime, 1246 01:04:15,286 --> 01:04:18,985 if they're not caught. So what happens in the law enforcement arena 1247 01:04:19,029 --> 01:04:22,946 that cops are not getting this technology training. 1248 01:04:22,989 --> 01:04:25,557 The problem is so big. 1249 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,126 I mean we would need to employ so many more officers 1250 01:04:29,169 --> 01:04:31,998 trained in dealing with this issue. 1251 01:04:32,042 --> 01:04:35,349 [Brian] When you're a law enforcement professional 1252 01:04:35,393 --> 01:04:38,048 and you're looking at more cases than you can ever possibly get to, 1253 01:04:38,091 --> 01:04:40,267 unfortunately, a lot of those get triaged 1254 01:04:40,311 --> 01:04:44,706 so low that they never actually get investigated. 1255 01:04:44,750 --> 01:04:47,187 And so, unfortunately, that allows predators to keep doing 1256 01:04:47,231 --> 01:04:49,581 exactly what they're doing without as much consequence. 1257 01:04:49,624 --> 01:04:51,539 [woman 7] I think about how I would have felt 1258 01:04:51,583 --> 01:04:53,715 as a young impressionable child. 1259 01:04:53,759 --> 01:04:55,935 I would have kept the abuses to myself 1260 01:04:55,979 --> 01:04:58,590 for fear of being shamed and blamed. 1261 01:04:58,633 --> 01:05:01,636 I would have suffered with it secretly and quietly. 1262 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,510 It's important really to never start that process 1263 01:05:05,553 --> 01:05:07,555 because as a child, once you're in it, 1264 01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:10,254 it's very hard to get out of it, very hard to come forward 1265 01:05:10,297 --> 01:05:13,213 and tell your parent, "This is what's happening to me." 1266 01:05:13,257 --> 01:05:15,999 Do you think your parents know that this happens? 1267 01:05:16,042 --> 01:05:17,652 -Oh, no. -No. 1268 01:05:17,696 --> 01:05:19,524 I wouldn't be allowed to have a phone. 1269 01:05:19,567 --> 01:05:22,483 If they knew what was going on, it would be stripped. 1270 01:05:22,527 --> 01:05:25,878 And so, if you as a parent or a caregiver 1271 01:05:25,922 --> 01:05:28,794 can be an open, honest, soft place for your child 1272 01:05:28,837 --> 01:05:32,667 to come and say, "Hey, look everybody makes bad choices. 1273 01:05:32,711 --> 01:05:34,843 I'm here for you and we'll get through this together." 1274 01:05:34,887 --> 01:05:39,979 There's no bigger God's gift than a mother's intuition. 1275 01:05:41,198 --> 01:05:43,852 When a mom knows something, feels something, 1276 01:05:43,896 --> 01:05:45,985 there's something wrong with their kids. 1277 01:05:46,029 --> 01:05:48,553 And God's given it this to... to moms to protect their babies 1278 01:05:48,596 --> 01:05:52,992 whether the babies are six months old or 40 that never goes away. 1279 01:05:53,036 --> 01:05:54,994 So, I always tell moms to follow that 1280 01:05:55,038 --> 01:05:56,213 and never lead them astray. 1281 01:05:56,256 --> 01:05:58,650 The best line of defense by far 1282 01:05:58,693 --> 01:06:01,174 is to have active and engaged parents who understand 1283 01:06:01,218 --> 01:06:03,307 what their child might be encountering online. 1284 01:06:03,350 --> 01:06:05,831 Children are, unfortunately, left to deal with this 1285 01:06:05,874 --> 01:06:08,138 all on their own and they're not, you know, 1286 01:06:08,181 --> 01:06:10,618 we're talking about 10-, 11-, 12-, 13-year-old kids 1287 01:06:10,662 --> 01:06:13,970 who are not equipped to deal with this in a vacuum. 1288 01:06:14,013 --> 01:06:16,450 And so, it really takes that... that guardian 1289 01:06:16,494 --> 01:06:18,104 and parent support system. 1290 01:06:19,976 --> 01:06:21,499 [slow music] 1291 01:06:45,349 --> 01:06:47,612 [Doris] We always knew where our next meal was coming from. 1292 01:06:47,655 --> 01:06:50,615 I don't want to say that, but there wasn't much money 1293 01:06:50,658 --> 01:06:54,706 and in that middle... that time we had had... um... 1294 01:06:57,317 --> 01:06:59,798 we'd had a tragedy, we lost... 1295 01:07:01,843 --> 01:07:07,371 my sister, older sister died of pneumonia and that's the... 1296 01:07:07,414 --> 01:07:10,504 we talk about the good old days, but we didn't have 1297 01:07:10,548 --> 01:07:13,899 the medical care back then that we have now. 1298 01:07:13,942 --> 01:07:16,902 And then, in the following February 1299 01:07:19,165 --> 01:07:21,950 my mother had a little... 1300 01:07:21,994 --> 01:07:25,345 a little sister, Carolina, 1301 01:07:25,389 --> 01:07:28,740 and she had a heart defect and couldn't be saved. 1302 01:07:28,783 --> 01:07:34,180 So my parents lost two children in less than a year. 1303 01:07:39,664 --> 01:07:42,319 [man 12] You know, the kind of things you did and... 1304 01:07:42,362 --> 01:07:46,366 Sure, yeah. Jack is... I have two boys, 1305 01:07:46,410 --> 01:07:48,977 John and Jack. Jack's younger of the two. 1306 01:07:49,021 --> 01:07:51,589 John's 21, Jack was 15. 1307 01:07:54,157 --> 01:07:58,117 Jack was a very outgoing, typical teenager at 14 and 15. 1308 01:07:58,161 --> 01:08:02,556 Rambunctious, outgoing, very compassionate, pretty much an empathetic kid. 1309 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,168 He was a really sensitive person and I think that was 1310 01:08:05,211 --> 01:08:08,301 one of his best attributes because he could tell when you were feeling... 1311 01:08:08,345 --> 01:08:12,392 feeling down and without even asking you or having a conversation with you, 1312 01:08:12,436 --> 01:08:14,307 he just could like pick that up, total empath. 1313 01:08:14,351 --> 01:08:18,964 He was so kind to other kids and I wonder if that sense 1314 01:08:19,006 --> 01:08:24,535 of kindness made him more susceptible to feeling... 1315 01:08:28,930 --> 01:08:31,803 [man 13] Was there much talk of... I mean do you remember 1316 01:08:31,845 --> 01:08:33,978 there being suicides or anything like that? 1317 01:08:34,022 --> 01:08:37,504 Never. Never. I'd... I'd never have heard that. 1318 01:08:38,765 --> 01:08:42,509 We were worried. We were more worried about physical illnesses, 1319 01:08:42,553 --> 01:08:45,337 but I don't remember... 1320 01:08:45,381 --> 01:08:49,299 I don't remember there being a problem with suicide. 1321 01:08:49,342 --> 01:08:52,649 You know I have always liked technology 1322 01:08:52,693 --> 01:08:55,130 and I will say that it was hard to keep up with it, 1323 01:08:55,174 --> 01:08:57,523 but I would stay up sometimes very late trying to figure out 1324 01:08:57,568 --> 01:08:59,700 what my son was doing on his phone 1325 01:08:59,744 --> 01:09:02,268 and figuring out how to use all the same apps that... 1326 01:09:02,312 --> 01:09:04,879 that he used, so that I... 1327 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,666 never got behind on that stuff but, you know, 1328 01:09:10,798 --> 01:09:13,410 that's a really difficult thing to do. 1329 01:09:13,452 --> 01:09:17,327 I knew that it was working because Jack told me one day, 1330 01:09:17,370 --> 01:09:20,372 "Mom, I give up. I... you're too smart. 1331 01:09:20,416 --> 01:09:24,029 I cannot keep up with you and I'm just going to tell you everything now." 1332 01:09:24,072 --> 01:09:27,032 And he did, except one thing. 1333 01:09:34,431 --> 01:09:37,434 Definitely the worst day of my life was getting that phone call from my parents. 1334 01:09:43,527 --> 01:09:46,791 He didn't do it on purpose and he didn't do it to hurt us, 1335 01:09:46,834 --> 01:09:50,011 you know, he was just in a lot of pain. 1336 01:09:50,055 --> 01:09:51,535 [slow music] 1337 01:09:53,450 --> 01:09:57,236 Jack struggled for nine days in the hospital 1338 01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:01,893 and then after about six weeks we were able to crack his phone. 1339 01:10:01,936 --> 01:10:05,679 Someone said that there was, you know, some stuff 1340 01:10:05,723 --> 01:10:08,900 on sale at Home Depot that would help you, 1341 01:10:08,943 --> 01:10:11,990 basically, off yourself and... 1342 01:10:13,557 --> 01:10:16,951 and other kids would just come right out and say... text, 1343 01:10:16,995 --> 01:10:19,171 you know, "Just go kill yourself." 1344 01:10:20,607 --> 01:10:22,566 And then this is not uncommon. 1345 01:10:22,609 --> 01:10:25,177 He's not the first kid that's had that happen to him. 1346 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,704 Why did I not know anxiety was and why do you know? 1347 01:10:31,749 --> 01:10:35,187 I guess they've made it... they've been a little bit better about... 1348 01:10:36,232 --> 01:10:38,407 But even then, they only made it known to us 1349 01:10:38,451 --> 01:10:42,585 -after four kids killed themselves. -[girl] That's true. 1350 01:10:42,629 --> 01:10:46,285 In Littleton alone, at the beginning of the year 1351 01:10:46,329 --> 01:10:48,635 there were multiple suicides before school even started. 1352 01:10:48,679 --> 01:10:51,943 At children's hospital, there is a new program 1353 01:10:51,986 --> 01:10:54,772 for 10-year-olds and over and they say, 1354 01:10:54,815 --> 01:10:56,600 "Have you ever thought about killing yourself? 1355 01:10:56,643 --> 01:10:58,297 Have you ever tried to hurt yourself? 1356 01:10:58,341 --> 01:10:59,864 How do you feel about that?" 1357 01:10:59,907 --> 01:11:02,258 So I work in one of the busiest 1358 01:11:02,300 --> 01:11:04,477 pediatric emergency room departments in the country. 1359 01:11:04,521 --> 01:11:08,264 At any given time we can easily have four or five, 1360 01:11:08,307 --> 01:11:11,005 sometimes six patients who are there waiting 1361 01:11:11,049 --> 01:11:15,749 for mental health evaluation or waiting to be transferred for inpatient treatment. 1362 01:11:15,793 --> 01:11:18,839 You hear from the CDC that suicide is the second leading cause of death 1363 01:11:18,883 --> 01:11:21,233 in children ages 10 to 24. 1364 01:11:21,277 --> 01:11:24,236 Colorado suicide is the number one cause of death 1365 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,282 for individuals 10 to 24. 1366 01:11:26,325 --> 01:11:29,110 Every day we send out, you know, over... 1367 01:11:29,154 --> 01:11:33,245 over a dozen imminent suicide alerts, every single day. 1368 01:11:33,289 --> 01:11:36,509 It was such a rare occurrence to see that. 1369 01:11:36,553 --> 01:11:38,816 Now it is commonplace. 1370 01:11:38,859 --> 01:11:41,471 Has something changed about us biologically? 1371 01:11:41,514 --> 01:11:47,085 [woman 9] From 2000 and 2007 the suicide rate seemed virtually... 1372 01:11:47,128 --> 01:11:50,958 was... was pretty stable and had if anything some years 1373 01:11:51,002 --> 01:11:54,309 fluctuated down, but then we saw a beginning trend 1374 01:11:54,353 --> 01:11:57,008 and it became evident over time 1375 01:11:57,050 --> 01:12:00,751 that it was increasing from 2010 to 2017. 1376 01:12:00,794 --> 01:12:04,929 Not only teen suicide but child suicide 1377 01:12:04,972 --> 01:12:07,323 like 10 or 9 years old. 1378 01:12:07,366 --> 01:12:09,237 I said, "All right, sure. What do you got?" 1379 01:12:09,281 --> 01:12:12,327 He goes, "Well, Friday night I had two ten-year-olds, 1380 01:12:12,371 --> 01:12:15,940 on Snapchat. One thought it'd be a funny idea to talk 1381 01:12:15,983 --> 01:12:19,857 the other one into committing suicide and she did it. 1382 01:12:19,900 --> 01:12:20,987 She's dead." 1383 01:12:26,777 --> 01:12:32,348 So, 43% of 1.12 million children 1384 01:12:32,391 --> 01:12:36,395 that presented to the ERs for suicidal ideation 1385 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,702 or suicide attempt were under 11 years old. 1386 01:12:41,966 --> 01:12:47,275 Whether these children, these young adults think that they're not worth anything, 1387 01:12:47,318 --> 01:12:52,672 I guess, I don't know, but people can't deal with things now. 1388 01:12:52,716 --> 01:12:54,805 But I feel like a lot of people in our generation 1389 01:12:54,848 --> 01:12:56,981 are like way more sensitive than they should be. 1390 01:12:57,023 --> 01:13:00,680 If one insignificance happens it will just trigger 1391 01:13:00,724 --> 01:13:03,379 like every past thing that's happened in their life. 1392 01:13:03,422 --> 01:13:06,382 There's always a competition like with school 1393 01:13:06,425 --> 01:13:08,166 you're competing for the best rank. 1394 01:13:08,209 --> 01:13:11,255 With social media, there's this unspoken, I guess, 1395 01:13:11,299 --> 01:13:13,911 kind of competition for like most followers in a sense. 1396 01:13:13,954 --> 01:13:17,349 If you're losing that competition I... it hurts, 1397 01:13:17,393 --> 01:13:19,133 like it shows, you feel it in your heart. 1398 01:13:19,177 --> 01:13:21,179 Constantly comparing myself to others. 1399 01:13:21,222 --> 01:13:23,921 Constantly, you know, wanting that thing 1400 01:13:23,964 --> 01:13:26,271 or needing to be checking or not falling behind in notifications. 1401 01:13:26,314 --> 01:13:29,317 So whatever kinds of stresses are attached to that, 1402 01:13:30,536 --> 01:13:32,103 but you couple that with the fact that, 1403 01:13:32,146 --> 01:13:33,626 "I just don't know how to deal 1404 01:13:33,670 --> 01:13:35,280 with anything coming my way." 1405 01:13:35,323 --> 01:13:37,543 And I just think at times for some kids 1406 01:13:37,587 --> 01:13:39,632 it's just a toxic combination. 1407 01:13:39,675 --> 01:13:45,550 Suicide is always the result of many... many factors. 1408 01:13:45,594 --> 01:13:50,948 As we are not teaching kids as many skills to self-regulate 1409 01:13:50,991 --> 01:13:52,950 and deal with difficult emotions, 1410 01:13:52,993 --> 01:13:54,778 well one thing that a device 1411 01:13:54,821 --> 01:13:57,389 can be is a great way to distract. 1412 01:13:57,433 --> 01:14:01,698 Not being able to have my phone for a week would definitely... 1413 01:14:01,741 --> 01:14:05,657 like, I would get really bored and I feel like I would be stressed out. 1414 01:14:05,702 --> 01:14:08,313 Typically, when I get bored I do pick up my phone. 1415 01:14:08,356 --> 01:14:11,228 Like I had people to talk to, but they got bored. 1416 01:14:11,272 --> 01:14:13,971 I don't know it's just like something that I do when I'm bored. 1417 01:14:14,014 --> 01:14:16,103 Oftentimes it's a child who's simply bored. 1418 01:14:16,147 --> 01:14:18,148 Yeah, I'm pretty much bored. 1419 01:14:18,192 --> 01:14:20,499 -And I get so bored. -Sometimes when I'm bored. 1420 01:14:20,543 --> 01:14:22,501 -Because they were bored. -When they're bored. 1421 01:14:22,545 --> 01:14:25,025 -Boredom. -He is so bored. 1422 01:14:25,068 --> 01:14:27,985 My mindset just got worse and worse just because I felt 1423 01:14:28,028 --> 01:14:29,769 so unproductive and I wasn't doing anything. 1424 01:14:29,813 --> 01:14:31,945 And I felt like that's pretty common, you know, 1425 01:14:31,989 --> 01:14:34,992 most kids are bored, cooped up, and feel unproductive. 1426 01:14:35,035 --> 01:14:38,255 At 12, here again, I was helping my dad. 1427 01:14:38,299 --> 01:14:40,432 We were still... we were still milking cows, 1428 01:14:40,476 --> 01:14:42,782 we were still raising hogs, carrying water, 1429 01:14:42,826 --> 01:14:44,697 we still didn't have electricity. 1430 01:14:44,741 --> 01:14:47,047 I had to have the tractor gassed up, 1431 01:14:47,091 --> 01:14:49,093 everything hooked up and ready to go. 1432 01:14:49,136 --> 01:14:52,052 I mowed their lawns, some housework for those folks. 1433 01:14:52,096 --> 01:14:54,054 I didn't even know the word "bored." 1434 01:14:54,098 --> 01:14:57,275 And if we continually interrupt that boredom 1435 01:14:57,318 --> 01:15:00,365 with distraction with screens, I think that we are removing 1436 01:15:00,407 --> 01:15:03,368 kid's abilities to deal with their own thoughts. 1437 01:15:03,411 --> 01:15:06,327 And then that carries the risk then of being in a situation 1438 01:15:06,371 --> 01:15:08,504 where parents are fixing everything and you combine that 1439 01:15:08,547 --> 01:15:10,897 with situations in high school where parents 1440 01:15:10,941 --> 01:15:12,812 have fixed everything, "I've not been taught 1441 01:15:12,856 --> 01:15:14,031 how to deal with my own thoughts, 1442 01:15:14,074 --> 01:15:15,684 life is kind of hard. 1443 01:15:15,728 --> 01:15:17,643 I have no idea what to do with this." 1444 01:15:20,428 --> 01:15:24,084 I think I'm still more afraid of the real world. 1445 01:15:24,128 --> 01:15:27,348 -When the kids are outside, I don't give them freedom. -I really wasn't allowed 1446 01:15:27,392 --> 01:15:30,568 -to walk around the street. -We couldn't do that now, just walk down the street. 1447 01:15:30,612 --> 01:15:32,702 -Without worrying about being kidnapped. -There's not a lot of freedom 1448 01:15:32,745 --> 01:15:34,573 when they go out in the front yard or they can't ride 1449 01:15:34,617 --> 01:15:36,314 their bikes by themselves to the park. 1450 01:15:36,357 --> 01:15:38,011 I couldn't ride my bike around my street. 1451 01:15:38,055 --> 01:15:39,969 -I'm going to throw out, raped. -Yeah. 1452 01:15:40,013 --> 01:15:41,754 I mean that's just not really that safe. 1453 01:15:41,798 --> 01:15:43,582 But I get it from the parents' point 1454 01:15:43,626 --> 01:15:45,323 because there's a safety thing, too. 1455 01:15:45,366 --> 01:15:46,672 Out there in the real world 1456 01:15:46,716 --> 01:15:48,892 where things really are scary. 1457 01:15:48,934 --> 01:15:50,719 Interesting that you guys think that because 1458 01:15:50,763 --> 01:15:52,939 what I'll tell you is that, realistically, 1459 01:15:52,983 --> 01:15:55,942 the physical world meaning kidnappings and 1460 01:15:55,986 --> 01:15:58,379 that kind of stuff, it's actually much safer now. 1461 01:15:59,903 --> 01:16:01,339 [soft music] 1462 01:16:04,255 --> 01:16:07,475 [Sujit] It's easy to become fearful of your child stepping foot outside. 1463 01:16:07,519 --> 01:16:10,478 It seems like there's so much imminent risk with all these things. 1464 01:16:10,522 --> 01:16:12,916 So it's more of an issue with one in the parent 1465 01:16:12,959 --> 01:16:15,962 and then for the kids, you know, it is it's hard to engage 1466 01:16:16,005 --> 01:16:20,619 in a world where it seems like every day or every week 1467 01:16:20,663 --> 01:16:23,317 or something there is something horrible happening. 1468 01:16:23,361 --> 01:16:25,362 What makes you think that? 1469 01:16:25,406 --> 01:16:27,626 Yeah, I think it's because like it's so... 1470 01:16:27,670 --> 01:16:30,368 like populated, like, the news and stuff. 1471 01:16:30,411 --> 01:16:32,196 Like you hear all these, like watching the news 1472 01:16:32,239 --> 01:16:34,633 and, like, really just seeing all the dangers 1473 01:16:34,677 --> 01:16:36,112 that are out there in the world. 1474 01:16:39,333 --> 01:16:41,466 [woman 10] Most of the bodies are still inside the school. 1475 01:16:41,509 --> 01:16:43,250 Well, they wore black trench coats... 1476 01:16:43,294 --> 01:16:45,165 [man 14] Police say the six-year-old died 1477 01:16:45,209 --> 01:16:46,427 after a blow to the head. 1478 01:16:46,471 --> 01:16:48,603 Some wore Nazi crosses... 1479 01:16:48,647 --> 01:16:51,171 [man 15] We are beginning to learn more about... 1480 01:16:53,173 --> 01:16:54,827 ...as mothers and their children. 1481 01:16:54,871 --> 01:16:56,523 [man 16] NBC News, Los Angeles. 1482 01:16:58,396 --> 01:16:59,876 There is some tension at least. 1483 01:17:03,183 --> 01:17:05,403 [man 17] The Virginia Tech shooting still haunts the... 1484 01:17:06,577 --> 01:17:07,666 [slow music] 1485 01:17:11,714 --> 01:17:15,805 We live in a town, a community of 300 million people 1486 01:17:15,848 --> 01:17:18,721 with inflow of information that happens all the time, 1487 01:17:18,764 --> 01:17:20,505 you actually kind of wonder, "Can I have this? 1488 01:17:20,548 --> 01:17:22,507 Are my kids okay to play outside in the yard 1489 01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:24,987 for an hour without me sitting there watching them?" 1490 01:17:25,031 --> 01:17:27,468 And I'm thinking, "Man, when I was in seventh grade 1491 01:17:27,512 --> 01:17:31,255 I was going around my entire town on my bike." 1492 01:17:31,298 --> 01:17:34,084 -We were told to get out of the house. -"Hey, man. You want to play?" 1493 01:17:34,127 --> 01:17:36,085 -Ride my BMX bike. -I lived on my bike. 1494 01:17:36,129 --> 01:17:37,914 -Play kick the can. -Built a zip line. 1495 01:17:37,957 --> 01:17:39,829 -...the paper route. -Rang the doorbell. 1496 01:17:39,871 --> 01:17:41,744 -You had the whole neighborhood. -The lights came on. 1497 01:17:41,787 --> 01:17:44,616 -Put off into the woods. -Home when lights came on. 1498 01:17:44,660 --> 01:17:46,749 That whole town was in a way 1499 01:17:46,791 --> 01:17:49,316 an extended family of yours. 1500 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,102 This is- this is... why am I nervous? This is so dumb. 1501 01:17:52,145 --> 01:17:56,584 I've been conditioned by everybody around me that this is scary. 1502 01:17:56,628 --> 01:17:59,936 -This is not scary. -That anxiety is something we as parents have 1503 01:17:59,978 --> 01:18:02,808 to really kind of do some self-examination 1504 01:18:02,852 --> 01:18:06,072 with and understanding, wondering what part are we involved 1505 01:18:06,116 --> 01:18:10,250 in terms of potentially transferring some of that anxiety towards our kids. 1506 01:18:10,294 --> 01:18:12,644 They have to be allowed to fail. 1507 01:18:12,688 --> 01:18:14,820 There's no way you can ever prevent pain, 1508 01:18:14,864 --> 01:18:18,084 you know, or anguish a 100% of the time and, 1509 01:18:18,128 --> 01:18:20,521 in fact, it might not be healthy. 1510 01:18:20,565 --> 01:18:22,306 [slow music] 1511 01:18:32,620 --> 01:18:35,449 [Kelly] Do you guys feel like teachers and adults 1512 01:18:35,493 --> 01:18:39,018 and parents in general have kind of abandoned 1513 01:18:39,062 --> 01:18:42,587 helping you through the social media thing in life? 1514 01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:45,503 It's also like we shield stuff from our parents, too, 1515 01:18:45,546 --> 01:18:47,200 -so like they don't know. -[girl] Really sneaky. 1516 01:18:47,244 --> 01:18:49,550 I don't blame them for not being able to help 1517 01:18:49,594 --> 01:18:51,422 because we don't ask for help. 1518 01:18:51,465 --> 01:18:54,425 I definitely feel like us as kids kind of 1519 01:18:54,468 --> 01:19:00,170 got put in a... in a tough spot, you know, in between two worlds. 1520 01:19:00,213 --> 01:19:02,085 This is all new for us as parents. 1521 01:19:02,128 --> 01:19:04,478 We... we... this... this technology and this... 1522 01:19:04,522 --> 01:19:06,611 in this world has kind of crept up on us 1523 01:19:06,654 --> 01:19:10,397 and there is so many of us who could do better. 1524 01:19:10,441 --> 01:19:14,532 Like my parents would be like heartbroken that their kids have to go through this. 1525 01:19:14,575 --> 01:19:19,450 Over half of tweens and close to three-fourths of teens 1526 01:19:19,493 --> 01:19:22,670 experience issues regarding mental health. 1527 01:19:22,714 --> 01:19:26,413 And then we get into cyberbullying and that's over three-fourths. 1528 01:19:26,457 --> 01:19:31,288 Then we get to sexual content and for tweens it's around 70% 1529 01:19:31,331 --> 01:19:33,550 and then for teens it gets even higher. 1530 01:19:33,594 --> 01:19:38,208 Our society is just become too isolated, 1531 01:19:38,251 --> 01:19:42,125 just losing human touch and there's no human touch 1532 01:19:42,168 --> 01:19:45,781 to kind of heal the... the scar or the... the pain. 1533 01:19:45,824 --> 01:19:49,785 [girl] Why do you think all these suicide and depression rates are skyrocketing? 1534 01:19:49,827 --> 01:19:52,048 It's because of social media and nobody's doing anything about it. 1535 01:19:52,091 --> 01:19:53,832 [man 18] We gave the stuff to ourselves 1536 01:19:53,876 --> 01:19:55,834 because we wanted it and now, 1537 01:19:55,878 --> 01:19:58,750 we get to watch it happen to our children. 1538 01:19:58,794 --> 01:20:01,840 Kids right now are going to experience the worst 1539 01:20:01,884 --> 01:20:04,843 -of what we're going through. -For most of the things that parents 1540 01:20:04,887 --> 01:20:08,585 can't stand about technology, it's our fault. 1541 01:20:08,629 --> 01:20:13,852 I don't want to trade my influence for their access 1542 01:20:13,896 --> 01:20:18,248 to a million different sources of influence that may not be credible. 1543 01:20:18,291 --> 01:20:20,380 Some parents say, "I'm not going to do anything. I give up. 1544 01:20:20,424 --> 01:20:23,688 It's too overwhelming. I'm going to cross my fingers 1545 01:20:23,731 --> 01:20:26,691 -and hope that they do okay." -As a family, 1546 01:20:26,734 --> 01:20:30,303 it is the one thing we fight about more than anything. 1547 01:20:30,347 --> 01:20:33,350 If I had the option to turn things back 1548 01:20:33,393 --> 01:20:36,919 and give our kids of today a life without 1549 01:20:36,962 --> 01:20:39,530 social media and smartphones, I would absolutely do it. 1550 01:20:39,573 --> 01:20:43,186 I would absolutely take away the internet for my kids. 1551 01:20:43,228 --> 01:20:45,971 Yes, I would have rather grown up without the internet. 1552 01:20:46,014 --> 01:20:48,669 I mean I would do it immediately, take it all away. 1553 01:20:48,713 --> 01:20:51,629 If social media was gone like completely, 1554 01:20:51,672 --> 01:20:53,892 and nobody had it, it'd be a positive. 1555 01:20:56,460 --> 01:21:01,117 [Chris] I do long some for my children to know a bit more peace, 1556 01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,076 a bit more calm, a bit more boredom. 1557 01:21:10,648 --> 01:21:12,955 You can't go back. You can't go back. 1558 01:21:12,998 --> 01:21:16,088 I know we can't go back, but I wish we could make 1559 01:21:16,132 --> 01:21:21,005 children realize that life is precious and it's a gift. 1560 01:21:21,050 --> 01:21:22,660 And we need to really... 1561 01:21:25,619 --> 01:21:27,708 just really value it. 1562 01:21:27,752 --> 01:21:29,536 [Sarah] Do I wish that we could just throw 1563 01:21:29,580 --> 01:21:31,103 all the technology away? 1564 01:21:31,147 --> 01:21:33,496 I kind of do, honestly. 1565 01:21:33,540 --> 01:21:37,675 But I know that that is not the solution. 1566 01:21:37,718 --> 01:21:40,156 I think we're going through a painful process 1567 01:21:40,199 --> 01:21:42,245 of adaptation to something 1568 01:21:42,288 --> 01:21:44,202 that's fundamentally changed our culture. 1569 01:21:44,246 --> 01:21:47,511 But the opportunities for these kids in this world 1570 01:21:47,554 --> 01:21:50,035 are so much more vast and, yes, it's more complicated 1571 01:21:50,079 --> 01:21:53,909 and it comes with its own set of worries and concerns, 1572 01:21:53,952 --> 01:21:56,085 but if you take the control out of it 1573 01:21:56,128 --> 01:21:59,958 and you focus on just trying to teach them how to be people 1574 01:22:00,002 --> 01:22:02,960 in this world with all the things coming at them. 1575 01:22:03,005 --> 01:22:06,269 Technology is amazing. 1576 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,534 I think it's a great thing as for human culture and stuff like that 1577 01:22:10,577 --> 01:22:12,579 if we can control our consumption of it. 1578 01:22:15,495 --> 01:22:18,716 [Brian] So, new technology almost always comes with unintended consequences. 1579 01:22:18,759 --> 01:22:22,546 Um, you know, we didn't have car crashes before we had the car, right? 1580 01:22:22,589 --> 01:22:27,898 The car's a great invention, but, unfortunately, that resulted in car crashes. 1581 01:22:27,943 --> 01:22:30,946 And so, the answer was not stop driving cars, 1582 01:22:30,989 --> 01:22:33,644 the answer was we invest in driver's education 1583 01:22:33,687 --> 01:22:36,907 and we add seat belts and airbags and lane assist 1584 01:22:36,952 --> 01:22:39,215 and we're constantly looking for technological solutions 1585 01:22:39,258 --> 01:22:42,696 and educational solutions to make that technology safer. 1586 01:22:42,740 --> 01:22:45,047 [woman 11] How do we keep our kids safe? 1587 01:22:45,090 --> 01:22:48,005 Oh. There's so much to that. I think what we need 1588 01:22:48,050 --> 01:22:51,270 is a mass public awareness campaign so people understand what's going on. 1589 01:22:51,314 --> 01:22:54,273 One thing I have learned is that if you tell people this is bad for you, 1590 01:22:54,317 --> 01:22:56,972 they won't listen. If you tell people this is how you're being manipulated, 1591 01:22:57,014 --> 01:22:58,843 no one wants to feel manipulated. 1592 01:22:58,886 --> 01:23:01,411 As parents, though, we decided 1593 01:23:01,454 --> 01:23:04,022 we are going to become the experts. 1594 01:23:04,066 --> 01:23:07,243 They need to start to see us as the experts 1595 01:23:07,286 --> 01:23:09,419 rather than just everybody out there. 1596 01:23:09,462 --> 01:23:12,639 What's awesome is all these parents are, you know, 1597 01:23:12,683 --> 01:23:15,032 becoming innovators and they're like, "Wow, 1598 01:23:15,077 --> 01:23:18,689 there isn't this safety thing that we need. 1599 01:23:18,732 --> 01:23:21,866 And so, I'm going to invent it." There's so much more help now 1600 01:23:21,909 --> 01:23:23,737 than there was five years ago. 1601 01:23:27,306 --> 01:23:30,179 [Free] And there are ways that it can benefit them hugely, 1602 01:23:30,222 --> 01:23:33,530 but it's not going to benefit them and they're not going to use it 1603 01:23:33,573 --> 01:23:35,923 only for positive stuff unless we educate. 1604 01:23:35,967 --> 01:23:38,621 The best filter that your child will develop 1605 01:23:38,665 --> 01:23:40,406 is the one between their ears. 1606 01:23:40,450 --> 01:23:42,713 So having an adult they can go to 1607 01:23:42,755 --> 01:23:45,585 that they trust is critical. 1608 01:23:45,629 --> 01:23:47,587 And having an adult that's interested and able 1609 01:23:47,630 --> 01:23:50,895 to have the conversations with them is critical. 1610 01:23:50,938 --> 01:23:54,898 And they'll say, you know, "I want to talk to my parents, 1611 01:23:54,942 --> 01:23:58,642 but they just don't get it." And maybe they don't, 1612 01:23:58,684 --> 01:24:01,862 but they should try to get it because once you crack the shell, 1613 01:24:01,906 --> 01:24:05,692 oftentimes these kids are just dying to share. 1614 01:24:05,736 --> 01:24:09,130 The best thing that you can do for your child 1615 01:24:09,174 --> 01:24:11,133 is make sure that they feel comfortable talking to you 1616 01:24:11,175 --> 01:24:13,091 about these types of issues and, unfortunately, 1617 01:24:13,135 --> 01:24:16,094 most parents are relatively ignorant about 1618 01:24:16,138 --> 01:24:18,531 the types of things their children are experiencing online 1619 01:24:18,575 --> 01:24:22,231 and aren't prepared to help them even if the issues do come up. 1620 01:24:22,273 --> 01:24:25,234 So, you're my child, I love you. 1621 01:24:25,277 --> 01:24:28,585 So if something is... goes sideways that we missed, 1622 01:24:28,628 --> 01:24:32,327 I want you to know you have the open door and we're not going to give you 1623 01:24:32,371 --> 01:24:36,419 any consequences for coming to us because you're going to make mistakes. 1624 01:24:36,462 --> 01:24:39,378 I want a kid to kind of run, so I'll go, "Oh, Mom. I already know that." "Good. 1625 01:24:39,422 --> 01:24:41,946 Just honey, wanted to make sure, you know, why? 1626 01:24:41,989 --> 01:24:45,210 Because I love you so much 1627 01:24:47,299 --> 01:24:49,127 that I want you to know this thing." Right? 1628 01:24:49,171 --> 01:24:51,303 If a kid isn't to the point where they're just 1629 01:24:51,347 --> 01:24:55,742 a little bit annoyed by you going there again, 1630 01:24:55,786 --> 01:24:58,267 then you're not doing it enough. 1631 01:25:02,401 --> 01:25:07,580 [Sarah] At some point they will be taking flight and will be leaving our home 1632 01:25:07,624 --> 01:25:10,235 in just a few short years 1633 01:25:10,279 --> 01:25:15,022 and I want to know that we gave them everything that we had. 1634 01:25:16,111 --> 01:25:18,722 [Free] I mean that's the truth. Even my husband who is the most... 1635 01:25:18,764 --> 01:25:21,116 he's not a very emotional guy, 1636 01:25:21,159 --> 01:25:23,422 he will call me up in the middle of the day and be like, "Gosh! 1637 01:25:23,466 --> 01:25:26,860 She's just amazing. She's an amazing soul." 1638 01:25:26,904 --> 01:25:29,080 [Chris] And I just so desperately want those young people 1639 01:25:29,124 --> 01:25:31,430 to have other voices in their life. 1640 01:25:31,474 --> 01:25:34,564 Adults who will look at them and say, "That's not who you are. 1641 01:25:34,607 --> 01:25:37,088 That's not who I see. This will come and go. 1642 01:25:37,132 --> 01:25:39,656 I see you. You're going to be okay. 1643 01:25:39,699 --> 01:25:42,528 I love you." And they just need to hear that. 1644 01:25:42,572 --> 01:25:44,008 We all need to hear that. 1645 01:25:44,050 --> 01:25:47,054 [slow music] 135885

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