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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,251 --> 00:00:02,881 - NARRATOR: In a world of superheroes, 2 00:00:02,877 --> 00:00:04,917 two companies have dominated the space for almost a century. 3 00:00:06,631 --> 00:00:08,551 Marvel and DC are nothing short of a worldwide phenomenon. 4 00:00:10,343 --> 00:00:14,513 With films resulting in billions at the box office, countless TV shows, 5 00:00:14,514 --> 00:00:16,434 and a fan base around the world 6 00:00:16,433 --> 00:00:19,393 who defend their favorite characters with unrivaled passion. 7 00:00:19,394 --> 00:00:21,604 And this passion goes beyond core comic readers 8 00:00:21,604 --> 00:00:23,734 and into the hearts of millions all over the world 9 00:00:23,732 --> 00:00:26,612 to redefine pop culture, break down barriers 10 00:00:26,609 --> 00:00:27,649 and change the way we see the world. 11 00:00:29,988 --> 00:00:32,778 These are the stories of an 80-year battle that forms the modern-day mythology. 12 00:00:34,993 --> 00:00:37,413 ♪ 13 00:00:37,412 --> 00:00:42,252 In late 1930s, a hero named Superman, created by Jery Siegel and Joe Shuster 14 00:00:42,250 --> 00:00:45,460 burst onto the scene and became a blockbuster hit. 15 00:00:45,462 --> 00:00:48,172 He was the first superhero to break out of the pages of a comic book 16 00:00:48,173 --> 00:00:51,303 and into almost every house in America. 17 00:00:51,301 --> 00:00:55,601 - This was the moment in time that modern superheroes were born. 18 00:00:55,597 --> 00:00:57,557 - NARRATOR: Siegel and Shuster created the archetype 19 00:00:57,557 --> 00:00:59,477 upon which new mythology would be built. 20 00:00:59,476 --> 00:01:01,226 The hero from the planet Krypton 21 00:01:01,227 --> 00:01:03,727 had a repertoire of powers that made him larger than life. 22 00:01:03,730 --> 00:01:06,190 But he also stood for American values-- 23 00:01:06,191 --> 00:01:09,571 Truth, justice, and hope for becoming the best in all of us. 24 00:01:09,569 --> 00:01:13,869 Superman also helped turn DC Comics into an industry juggernaut. 25 00:01:13,865 --> 00:01:15,865 And Superman gave Americans a hopeful escape 26 00:01:15,867 --> 00:01:17,947 from the uncertainty of the time. 27 00:01:17,952 --> 00:01:20,332 - TUCKER: At the time, World War 2 was brewing 28 00:01:20,330 --> 00:01:23,000 and the American public was desperate for a patriotic hero. 29 00:01:24,626 --> 00:01:28,546 In early 1940, Look magazine... 30 00:01:28,546 --> 00:01:32,676 which was the second banana to Life magazine, 31 00:01:32,675 --> 00:01:37,005 they went to Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, two Jewish kids, 32 00:01:37,013 --> 00:01:39,603 and they were asked to create a story which was 33 00:01:39,599 --> 00:01:41,599 "How Would Superman Win World War 2?" 34 00:01:41,601 --> 00:01:44,021 - GRAND: Superman flies over to Europe 35 00:01:44,020 --> 00:01:47,770 and he pummels his way through the Reichstag... 36 00:01:47,774 --> 00:01:51,194 basically beating the German Army in like a half hour. 37 00:01:51,194 --> 00:01:53,404 There's an interesting panel from that story 38 00:01:53,404 --> 00:01:55,624 where Superman holds up Adolf Hitler and says, 39 00:01:55,615 --> 00:01:58,275 "I oughta give you a non-Aryan punch in the jaw." 40 00:02:00,036 --> 00:02:02,206 - NARRATOR: No less than a year after the Look magazine panel, 41 00:02:02,205 --> 00:02:04,745 before America entered World War 2... 42 00:02:04,749 --> 00:02:08,669 a small publisher named Timely Comics, which would latr become Marvel Comics, 43 00:02:08,670 --> 00:02:09,380 was trying to keep up with the competition. 44 00:02:11,047 --> 00:02:13,297 Timely Comics had already scored success with their superheroes, 45 00:02:13,299 --> 00:02:15,549 the Human Torch and Sub-Mariner. 46 00:02:15,552 --> 00:02:18,722 But they were always looking for their own answer to Superman. 47 00:02:18,721 --> 00:02:21,981 They turned to two of their creators, Jack Kirby and Joe Simon, 48 00:02:21,975 --> 00:02:23,265 to find a new hero for the troubling times. 49 00:02:25,145 --> 00:02:27,895 ♪ 50 00:02:27,897 --> 00:02:29,687 - USLAN: You really need to understand 51 00:02:29,691 --> 00:02:31,481 what was happening in New York City at the time. 52 00:02:31,484 --> 00:02:33,994 It wasn't "Go, America! 53 00:02:33,987 --> 00:02:38,117 Let's get into this war and let's put an end to Nazism." 54 00:02:38,116 --> 00:02:40,616 - There was a very strong pro-Nazi sentiment in the US at that point. 55 00:02:43,246 --> 00:02:48,326 The Nazi Bund in New York was an active and fairly large group. 56 00:02:48,334 --> 00:02:52,174 They had a huge get together in Madison Square Garden 57 00:02:52,172 --> 00:02:54,552 that created quite a stir. 58 00:02:54,549 --> 00:02:56,889 - JEREMY: Anyone who's good at heart 59 00:02:56,885 --> 00:03:00,595 saw this thing growing and they saw this evil getting worse. 60 00:03:00,597 --> 00:03:03,467 - MEGAN: Jack Kirby and my grandfather, they were both Jewish, 61 00:03:03,474 --> 00:03:06,144 they both had family over in Europe. 62 00:03:06,144 --> 00:03:08,694 I mean, this was hitting really close to home for them. 63 00:03:08,688 --> 00:03:10,358 - JEREMY: And what else can you do? 64 00:03:10,356 --> 00:03:12,646 You create a way to do battle with that evil. 65 00:03:12,650 --> 00:03:14,860 [reel whirring] 66 00:03:14,861 --> 00:03:18,031 - ANNOUNCER: Poland, September 1939. 67 00:03:18,031 --> 00:03:20,701 The German foe begins its ruthless march of conquest. 68 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:22,160 - Looks like we found our villain. 69 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,750 - Hitler? 70 00:03:23,745 --> 00:03:25,325 - We talked about coming up with our bad guy first, 71 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:27,170 the foil to our hero. 72 00:03:27,165 --> 00:03:29,825 Seems like Hitler's shaping up to be the ultimate bad guy. 73 00:03:29,834 --> 00:03:33,134 So... all we need is the perfect hero to face him. 74 00:03:33,129 --> 00:03:36,929 - How about "Super American?" 75 00:03:36,925 --> 00:03:39,925 - I like the American idea. "Super" I think is probably overdone now. 76 00:03:39,928 --> 00:03:41,548 Everyone wants to be Superman now. - Yeah. 77 00:03:42,847 --> 00:03:45,347 I got it. "The American Captain." 78 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:46,390 - American Captain. 79 00:03:49,270 --> 00:03:50,190 - It's almost there. - Almost there. 80 00:03:52,565 --> 00:03:54,775 ♪ 81 00:03:54,776 --> 00:03:55,486 - USLAN: Daring at the time... 82 00:03:57,695 --> 00:04:00,315 the cover of Captain America #1 83 00:04:00,323 --> 00:04:02,913 showed Captain America walloping Adolf Hitler. 84 00:04:05,787 --> 00:04:07,957 - JEREMY: Back then, Hitler was seen as invincible. He was on a roll. 85 00:04:07,956 --> 00:04:11,626 Poland, falls. Czechoslovakia, gone. France, starting to fall. 86 00:04:11,626 --> 00:04:13,246 - MORROW: Joe and Jack came right out and said, 87 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:14,053 "Nazis are bad and we're going after them." 88 00:04:15,964 --> 00:04:19,514 - For these men to decide that they wanted to speak up and speak out against it... 89 00:04:19,509 --> 00:04:22,799 at that time is super brave. 90 00:04:22,804 --> 00:04:26,394 - MORROW: This was two guys making a very bold public statement 91 00:04:26,391 --> 00:04:28,601 in splashy red, white and blue colors 92 00:04:28,601 --> 00:04:30,561 of what we should and shouldn't be supporting in this country. 93 00:04:32,939 --> 00:04:35,149 - USLAN: Captain America was a huge hit right out of the gate. 94 00:04:35,149 --> 00:04:39,029 This magazine flew off the stands. Kids loved it. 95 00:04:39,028 --> 00:04:41,358 - Superman's awesome, that's someone to look up to. 96 00:04:41,364 --> 00:04:43,624 "Truth, and justice, and the American way. 97 00:04:43,616 --> 00:04:45,446 And he's fighting all these crime and doing good. 98 00:04:45,451 --> 00:04:47,831 But I'm never gonna be Superman. 99 00:04:47,829 --> 00:04:51,169 Whereas with Captain America, well, he started out as a scrawny kid... 100 00:04:51,165 --> 00:04:53,575 Just like I am when I'm reading a comic book as well." 101 00:04:53,584 --> 00:04:56,174 So it's very relatable. 102 00:04:56,170 --> 00:05:00,970 - Captain America was my first perception of what patriotism is. 103 00:05:00,967 --> 00:05:02,927 When I would buy those comics, I would read them-- 104 00:05:02,927 --> 00:05:05,847 And I would become in a way, 105 00:05:05,847 --> 00:05:09,977 in a very small way, but in a real way... socially conscious. 106 00:05:09,976 --> 00:05:12,476 And that's a big deal for a child. 107 00:05:12,478 --> 00:05:13,978 - It was our way of saying "Anybody can be a patriot. 108 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:14,810 Anybody can be a hero." 109 00:05:18,359 --> 00:05:21,739 - MORROW: Not everyone was happy with that Captain America #1. 110 00:05:21,738 --> 00:05:24,368 The Nazi Bund in New York 111 00:05:24,365 --> 00:05:27,485 were not happy with Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. 112 00:05:27,493 --> 00:05:29,543 -[telephone ringing] -[woman gasps] 113 00:05:29,537 --> 00:05:32,537 - MEGAN: The Timely Comic office would get a lot of threatening phone calls 114 00:05:32,540 --> 00:05:35,880 saying that they would pay for what they did. 115 00:05:35,877 --> 00:05:38,917 - JEREMY: People were calling and claiming that they were gonna come and kill them. 116 00:05:38,921 --> 00:05:43,091 - MEGAN: There were many declarations of "Deah to Jews." 117 00:05:43,092 --> 00:05:46,012 It got to the point where guys were scared to leave the office for lunch. 118 00:05:46,012 --> 00:05:46,852 [telephone ringing 119 00:05:48,765 --> 00:05:49,635 - Timely Comics. 120 00:05:51,893 --> 00:05:54,103 I'll see if they're in-- And who may I ask is calling? 121 00:05:56,481 --> 00:06:04,951 ♪ 122 00:06:04,947 --> 00:06:07,947 Mr. Kirby? Mr. Simon? 123 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:10,660 The Mayor of New York City is on the phone and he would like to speak with you. 124 00:06:12,413 --> 00:06:13,333 - Thank you, Stanley. 125 00:06:17,835 --> 00:06:21,165 - [clears throat] Hello, sir, Joe here. - And Jack. 126 00:06:21,172 --> 00:06:23,592 - LA GUARDIA: Hey, boys, it's Mayor La Guardia here. 127 00:06:23,591 --> 00:06:26,051 Word is you're getting threats from Nazi sympathizers. 128 00:06:26,052 --> 00:06:28,052 Well, I just want you to know 129 00:06:28,054 --> 00:06:29,644 that the city of New York supports all that you're doing. 130 00:06:29,639 --> 00:06:31,349 - Uh... Thank you, we're just doing our part. 131 00:06:32,934 --> 00:06:36,274 - The Mayor told them that he would send some policemen down to guard 132 00:06:36,270 --> 00:06:38,520 the front of the office building 133 00:06:38,523 --> 00:06:41,403 and do whatever he had to do to keep them safe. 134 00:06:41,401 --> 00:06:44,241 - MISSICK: Comics have taken a unique stance 135 00:06:44,237 --> 00:06:47,867 when it comes to a genre that some people think is only for kids. 136 00:06:47,865 --> 00:06:51,985 And yet they are educating adults and children 137 00:06:51,994 --> 00:06:56,584 on certain things that I think we as human beings should agree on. 138 00:06:56,582 --> 00:06:59,462 - MEGAN: I feel like it was their patriotic duty. 139 00:06:59,460 --> 00:07:03,340 And if they had to receive these threats, I think it was worth it for them. 140 00:07:03,339 --> 00:07:05,839 ♪ 141 00:07:05,842 --> 00:07:08,682 - MORROW: Nothing derailed Simon or Kirby 142 00:07:08,678 --> 00:07:11,348 from continuing to publish Captain America. 143 00:07:11,347 --> 00:07:13,557 So by the time Pearl Harbor hit, 144 00:07:13,558 --> 00:07:15,768 Captain America was more relevant 145 00:07:15,768 --> 00:07:18,228 than any other comic book that was out in its day. 146 00:07:18,229 --> 00:07:20,189 Once the US actually entered the war, 147 00:07:20,189 --> 00:07:22,069 the whole country was on the side of patriotism... 148 00:07:23,860 --> 00:07:25,530 and America fighting the Nazis. 149 00:07:25,528 --> 00:07:29,818 ♪ 150 00:07:29,824 --> 00:07:32,334 I think it was important because there was a lot of people, 151 00:07:32,326 --> 00:07:34,446 1940s America that didn't have voices. 152 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:36,294 - Thanks, Stanley. 153 00:07:36,289 --> 00:07:37,619 - MORROW: Captain America spoke for everyone. 154 00:07:39,292 --> 00:07:42,302 Everyone can see a little bit of themselves in that character. 155 00:07:42,295 --> 00:07:43,665 - NARRATOR: Captain America's real superpowers 156 00:07:43,671 --> 00:07:45,301 weren't in the super serum, 157 00:07:45,298 --> 00:07:47,548 they were the normal human qualities people strive for. 158 00:07:47,550 --> 00:07:49,090 - Jack, come her! You gotta see this. 159 00:07:49,093 --> 00:07:51,263 - NARRATOR: Qualities the US soldiers strive for. 160 00:07:51,262 --> 00:07:53,892 Loyalty, selflessness, integrity, 161 00:07:53,890 --> 00:07:56,180 and the courage to never back down when faced with a bully. 162 00:07:56,184 --> 00:07:57,274 - I guess we're onto something. 163 00:07:57,268 --> 00:07:59,148 ♪ 164 00:08:00,938 --> 00:08:03,858 - NARRATOR: Marvel finally had something that was as big s DC's Superman. 165 00:08:03,858 --> 00:08:07,068 And it put them on the map big time. - I can do this all day. 166 00:08:07,069 --> 00:08:08,739 - NARRATOR: It would take Marvel another 20 years 167 00:08:08,738 --> 00:08:10,948 to become a true threat to DC Comics. 168 00:08:10,948 --> 00:08:12,828 But these early days of competition 169 00:08:12,825 --> 00:08:17,455 laid the foundation for their decades long pop culture redefining rivalry. 170 00:08:17,455 --> 00:08:20,495 But even though loyalties ran deep in this world... 171 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:25,460 One man suited up to unite the titans in the most unlikely of ways. 172 00:08:25,463 --> 00:08:26,883 - Let the festivities begin. 14186

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