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- NARRATOR: The '90s began
with the biggest boom period ever seen
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in the comic
book industry.
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And Marvel was
flying high.
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- My favorite comic
book is the X-Men.
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- Oh, yeah,
we like X-Men.
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- NARRATOR: 1991's X-Men
#1 sold a mind-blogging 8.1 million
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They also launched
Marvel Films
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which introduced hit animated
series for The Hulk, X-Men, and Spider-Man.
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Meanwhile, at DC, plans were
underway with the Superman team
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for a big idea the company
hoped would shift attention bak to them.
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- Don't you think that
Jimmy Olsen would be the perfect best man?
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- Yes, I think that's
great. Write that down.
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- NARRATOR: But an
unforeseen event
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would change the course of
comic book history forever.
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- Knock, knock! We gotta
talk. - [knocking on door]
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- Every year, the entire
Superman team would get together.
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And we would work out
the continuity roughly
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for the next years'
worth of stories.
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- USLAN: Marvel was
dominating, so how do you shake up an industry?
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Great stories, great characters,
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and important earth-shaking
events that will grab the public's attention.
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- SIMONSON: The
big denouement
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was going to be the
wedding of Clark Kent and Lois Lane.
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But, unknown to us, there was
going to be a new Superman TV show.
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- REPORTER 1: Lois & Clark
is part comic book
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and part romance novel
in a television series.
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Think of it as the Man of
Steel meets Danielle Steele.
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- At least I personally was
unaware of it. Other people may have been aware of it.
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And then Jenette Kahn comes
down, who was the publisher, and says...
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- So we have to put a hold on
the wedding story line for now.
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- What?
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- The Lois and Clark TV
show want them to remain unmarried,
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and they're worried
it's gonna confuse the audience.
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- [scoffs]
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- SIMONSON: We were
a bit perturbed.
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We had to come up with something
else to do for the next year.
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- Let's kill him.
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- [scoffs] Yeah.
- No... let's kill him.
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- SIMONSON: Jerry
Ordway would always say,
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when we couldn't think what
to do next, "Let's kill him."
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And this time when Jerry said,
"Let's kill him,"
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we said, "Yeah,
let's just kill him."
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- REPORTER 2: He may be able
to leap tall buildings at a single bound...
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but Superman is
in a super slump.
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- NARRATOR: The world's
most famous superhero
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seemed like he was
past his prime.
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Younger fans saw him as
stodgy and old-fashioned...
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and sales were slumping.
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- He's been around for a
long time. There were a couple of hundred issues.
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People are getting
bored of him, I think.
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- I think he's corny.
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- I don't like him. He's like a
boy scout compared to other superheroes.
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- KAHN: One of the best ways
to engage our readers was to torture them.
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And the way to torture our
readers was to torture our characters.
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- SIMONSON: You know, I've
done some terrible things to characters.
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I'm like a monster, actually,
when it comes to comic book characters.
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- KAHN: Once we had
decided to kill Superman,
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we had to think of a death
that was worthy of him.
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So, we created a
character called Doomsday
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who was just
astonishingly strong.
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- In comics, we kill
people all the time, but they get better.
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I never kill a
character in a comic book
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that I don't know how
I'm going to bring them back.
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Which we knew would
have to happen.
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- Finally, from us this evening,
murder most foul.
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- Today is the day that
Superman meets an un-super fate.
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- Well, the Man of Steel
has apparently met his match.
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And its name is Doomsday.
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- TUCKER: Mainstream media
outlets that before that
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would not deign to stoop
to cover superheroes
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were suddenly
covering superheroes.
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- I'm finding this all
very upsetting, actually.
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It's weird.
- I know. Isn't it awful?
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- I don't think
they should kill off Superman.
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- REPORTER 3:
Superman's fans are stunned.
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- It's definitely
surprising. I would never guess they would kill him.
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- They killed off Superman?
What's next? Who's gonna save the world?
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- SIMONSON: I was surprised
at the time that people really were believing...
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that a character as iconic as
Superman would be allowed to be permanently dead.
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- REPORTER 4: The Death of
Superman issue that flooded comic book stores today
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is expected to sell close
to three million copies.
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- TUCKER: There was
this feeding frenzy
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among people who did not
necessarily read comics month o month,
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going into comic book stores and
looking for this issue where Superman's gonna die.
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- Sold out in just a couple of
hours. We've doubled and tripled our orders.
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- And this is happening all over
the city, and probably all over the country.
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- COHEN: Suddenly there were
lines out the door at the comic book stores.
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"If I buy this, it's gonna
be worth a ton of money."
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"Kid's college is paid for. I
just have to buy 20 copies of Superman #75.
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The issue where
he dies. I'm set."
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- I think he's a kind of
dumb and boring, but I'm just collecting it for the money.
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- SIMONSON: We had to sign
non-disclosure agreements.
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So we couldn't say, "No,
really, don't buy 200 copies of that.
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Yes, he's gonna get better."
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- Freddy already made me buy 50
copies of that damn comic book
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and he's saving up to buy more.
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- [sighs] Oh, wow.
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- Do you think they're
gonna be worth something?
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- You know, um...
I think that...
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Um... Do you want a cookie?
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- Yeah, please.
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- SIMONSON: I felt guilty.
That's not how it works, people.
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Something they print millions of
copies of are never gonna be worth anything.
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- We're gonna put them through
college selling these books.
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- [coughing]
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- That's the plan.
- Mmm-hmm.
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- You okay?
- [muffled] Mmm-hmm. I'm great.
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- NARRATOR: A single copy of
the first printing of The Death of Superman
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will get you, at most,
about five bucks.
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But the value of that
comic book to the industry was immeasurable.
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It lured long-time fans back
to comics and brought in new readers.
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And for the first time
in years, made DC the place to be.
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- We've produced an
unbelievable amount of comics...
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but there's one
comic that has sold
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more than any other comic
in our entire history.
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The one that's inside
the bloody poly bag.
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It is Superman #75,
The Death of Superman.
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And what's really amazing
about this comic is that in his death,
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we had a chance to examine
how we've lost track of how important Superman is.
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You cannot like superheroes
and not like Superman.
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You may not think
you need to like Superman,
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but he is the original DNA
that exists in every character.
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He's the man who
created it all.
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It's like Robert Johnson and the
blues. There's nothing like Superman.
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- SIMONSON: Everybody
knew who Superman was.
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I think that that made people
think it was a very important thing.
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And in a way, it was,
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but in a way, it was because
they didn't let us marry him.
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And Jerry said, "Let's
kill him." Blame Jerry.
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- The death of Superman
clearly has turned into a killing.
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- NARRATOR: The Death of
Superman finally put DC back on top.
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It took the competition
across town completely by surprise.
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- Whatcha guys thinkin'?
- [grunts]
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You thinkin' what I'm thinkin'?
- Yes.
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