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It's amazing that there was
a time when what you said
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could get you locked up in prison.
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I actually accrued a reputation
for being irreverent.
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Yes, sir, it's a sticky wicket.
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I cuss gratuitously, but subject
matter's another story.
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This is going to be a good show.
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Are there any subjects that are
never appropriate for humor?
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People say a good
comedian doesn't have to cuss.
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And I thought, "That's fucking rubbish."
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How dirty is too dirty?
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Why is all that so funny?
I don't know.
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What you're about to hear is
going to shock and disgust you.
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If you choose to go blue,
you gotta do it right.
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Dirty for the sake of dirty,
there's nothing worse than that.
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You must promise me something.
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You won't get me in any
trouble on the show tonight.
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And, listen, I will be cussing tonight.
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Just so as you know.
No, I will, I will.
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Don't fucking "Aww" me.
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Not allowing an artist to use the word fuck
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is like not allowing a guitarist
to use the chord "E."
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It's possible to play the instrument,
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but why the fuck would you bother?
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Now, don't wave your finger at me.
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You knew when you got here there'd be cussing.
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The last thing comedy needs is to be polite.
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The world was never changed by anyone
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being well-behaved or well-mannered or quiet.
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There's a certain exhilaration
in pushing the boundaries.
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I had this memory of being, like, 3,
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and I would shower with my mother.
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My mom got her water from the shower head.
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That water would then cascade
down her ample bosom,
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and, like, pike off of her '70s Jew bush.
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That was my water.
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I was raised by parents who spoke explicitly.
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There's something about growing up not knowing
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that talking about your vagina
or penises was taboo.
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Now, if you haven't done it before, ladies,
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go home and treat yourself.
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Do it tonight.
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Just give your man
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a little push, push in the tush, tush.
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Just give him a little Atari.
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My whole comedy career,
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I've been told to be less dirty,
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and I would get more work
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if I just toned it down a little bit.
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And it's crazy to me
that a highbrow publication
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like "The New Yorker"
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would be interested in interviewing me
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about why I find it funny to butt-finger a man.
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No, please, no, really --
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I don't think there's
any subject that's off limits.
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I actually did that joke in Alabama, right?
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These three rednecks
met me after the show, man.
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"Hey, buddy. Come here."
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"Hey, buddy, we're Christians.
We don't like what you said."
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I said, "Then forgive me."
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What we consider offensive or blue
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evolves with every generation.
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With vaudeville, for the first time,
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comedy becomes an industry.
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Her poor father, he died of throat trouble.
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They hung him.
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Vaudeville is created
commercially to clean up humor.
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There's no cursing.
There's no blasphemy.
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Why?
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They want men, women, and children
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to be able to come there.
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They want a bigger audience.
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Ha ha!
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Nesteroff: If a vaudevillian did
something onstage
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that was objectionable,
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they would send a blue envelope
backstage with the material
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they wanted excised from their act.
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And so that became the whole idea
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of that phrase "blue material."
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Say good night.
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Good night.
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So you had vaudeville comedy,
which was accessible to all.
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But at the same time, concurrently,
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you had another style of comedy
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that was a little bit different.
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Burlesque houses were often like
going to a a strip club.
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Those guys were there with their
trench coats to watch girls.
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They had different styles of comedy,
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different people performing within them.
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I see you lying there.
My anger is aroused.
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I pull out my dirk.
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Uh-oh, now we're going to the point.
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Because burlesque, the primary attraction
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was scantily clad ladies,
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in order to compete for attention,
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a comedian had to do something
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that was going to upstage a naked woman.
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So they would do this sort of dirty-ish comedy.
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Your wife's on television?
Indeed, she is.
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I didn't know that.
A magician.
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What does she do?
Well, she does one trick
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that's really amazing, mystifying.
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She takes a little rubber ball.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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She bounces the little rubber ball up and down.
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Yeah.
And she stands with her legs like this.
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And when the little ball
bounces up and down,
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the little ball disappears.
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Well, what are you bragging about?
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What?
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My wife does the same thing with a basketball.
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Sure.
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Yeah, she does it the hard way.
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She's knock-kneed.
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Vaudeville is clean.
Burlesque is dirty.
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The thing about burlesque is,
that audience is all male.
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You're not going to burlesque
to see the comic.
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Okay?
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You're going to see the boobs.
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"The Dean Martin Celebrity Roast,"
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coming to you from the MGM Grand Hotel.
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Dean, I'd like you to know
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that I canceled a proctologist's appointment
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to be here tonight.
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And I think I made a mistake.
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So, in the late '60s and 1970s,
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they would televise Friars Club roasts,
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but they were sanitized versions
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of what you would actually
see at the Friars Club.
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Don't get we wrong.
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There's a lot of reasons why we
should honor this man tonight.
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First of all, he's Italian,
and I love the Italian people.
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I'll never forget the word
of Carmine Gangananza
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who said to me in Brooklyn
on a Saturday night...
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The televised roasts that Dean Martin did
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were always so funny, and it was fun to see,
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but there's something about
those private Friars Club,
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behind closed doors, you know, stag roasts.
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The fact that they were these huge stars
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like Jack Benny and Milton Berle
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that the public had only heard on TV
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or on the radio be very squeaky clean.
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Suddenly, you got to see another side of it.
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I've known Don for about eight years,
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and like most performers,
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Don has probably thousands of acquaintances,
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professional people that he knows.
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But he's also one of the people
who has close friends,
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and I like to feel that I am one.
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I don't want to speak for Don,
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but I am one of his very close friends,
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and I think that's important to Don
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because queers need friends.
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Wonderful.
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The vaudeville style of comedy
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and the burlesque tradition of comedy
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came together at the Friars Club.
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It's good when an artist
can express themselves in a way
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that may not be acceptable
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outside that temple of free speech.
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People say there's a time and
a place for that kind of comedy.
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That's the time and place --
the roast.
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I will remember this evening
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probably as long as it takes me
to get to my car.
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Ladies and gentlemen, here is
a very shocking comedian,
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the most shocking comedian of our time,
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a young man who is skyrocketing to fame.
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Lenny Bruce!
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You might be interested
in how I became offensive.
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At that time,
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there were laws on the book around obscenity.
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You couldn't say fuck.
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You couldn't say cum.
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You couldn't say cock.
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I mean, could you imagine that?
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I'd like to perhaps
give you a four-letter word
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that starts with an "S" and ends with a "T."
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First time in television.
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I'm not gonna look at you when I say this
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because this way, I can't get busted,
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you don't know who said it.
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The band said it.
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Starts with an "S" and ends with
a "T," and the word is "snot."
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Lenny Bruce saw himself as a social critic,
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and part of that was challenging our language
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and why certain words were taboo.
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The Jew has no concept
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that there's a dirty word graph.
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In other words F-U-C-K,
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the Jew doesn't know is worth 90 points
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and S-H-I-T, 5 points
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because both rabbis and priests S-H-I-T.
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Only one F-U-C-K's.
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If you listen to my father's routines,
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you will hear a "obscenity,"
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the so-called curse words or blue material.
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He did not use them for shock value.
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They had a purpose, they had a reason,
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and they were leading to a point.
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And there's a difference, you know,
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between a big piece of art with
a little shit in the middle,
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a big piece of art with
a little shit in the middle,
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a big piece of art,
then a big piece of shit
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with a little art in the middle.
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A big piece of shit with art in the middle.
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You don't understand the artist
is one big piece of shit.
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If he was just playing small joints
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and wasn't really a household name,
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nobody would have bothered him.
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But his popularity started to grow.
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He became something of a force
and something of an influence,
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so he started to question authority,
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and he started to step on toes.
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Christ and Moses look at the Earth,
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and they say, "Well, obviously,
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the book is bombing down there.
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The Gideons are shoving it in motel drawers."
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So Christ and Moses fly to New York.
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They say, what's playing at St. Pat's?
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A good double bill --
Spellman and Sheen.
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Cardinal Spellman would be
relating love and giving
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and forgiveness to the people,
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and Christ would be confused
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'cause their route took him
through Spanish Harlem.
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And he would wonder what 40 Puerto Ricans
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were doing living in one room,
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and this guy had a ring
on that was worth 8 grand.
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What about the accusations
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that you tramp on other people's religions?
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I discuss religions, many points of view.
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I am interested.
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I am searching for an answer,
as Billy Graham is.
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At this time, priests and people of the cloth,
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you bowed to them,
and people would get very angry
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because now they're talking about their religion,
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their belief system.
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You play with somebody's belief system
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and their religion, now you got a problem.
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And they got the powers-that-be crazy.
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"Shut him up.
You've gotta silence him."
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Someone saw Lenny Bruce in a club in Chicago,
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and he was making jokes
about the Pope or something,
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and two detectives went up onstage
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because of that remark and handcuffed him
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in front of the audience and took him away.
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You can't even imagine that today.
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They found it was obscene enough
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to put me in a jail cell
for the last 24 hours,
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which --
And the thing I wished they would do
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is tell me what words were obscene.
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In court, the cop is reciting
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what he thinks that my father's talking about
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when my father had the microphone,
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and he was doing this.
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He was imitating a priest
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doing the holy water in the pews.
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The cops wrote it down that it looked like
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he was pretending masturbation.
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It got fierce.
It got really fierce.
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There were some really funny,
great comedians, and blue.
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But they chose him
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to make some, you know, some ridiculous point.
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They took away his First Amendment rights.
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It was a horrible moment.
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The reason I get busted, arrested,
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I picked on the wrong God.
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If I would have picked on the God
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who's replica is in
the whoopee-cushion store,
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the tiki god, the Hawaiian god,
those idiots, their dumb God,
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I would have been cool.
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But I picked on the Western God,
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the cute God, the in God, the Kennedy God,
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and that's where I screwed up.
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No matter how many times he would get arrested,
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no matter how many times
he was dragged off the stage,
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no matter how many times
he had to go to court,
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my father believed
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that he had the right to free speech.
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My dad went from making $150,000 a year
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to being registered as a pauper.
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We had no money.
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All the money and everything went on lawyers.
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The way that he was beaten down and beaten down
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and beaten down, coupled with his drug use,
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is what killed him.
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Lenny really took the blows.
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He was the martyr.
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He cleared the way for the new openness,
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which was happening in all sorts
of media in the '60s,
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but it took guys like Lenny Bruce
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to really push the boundaries
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and go to jail for it.
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There is not one piece
of comedy being done today
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that didn't come out
of something Lenny Bruce said.
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Really.
He was like the big bang.
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Did he take the hit for all of us?
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Yeah, I imagine he did.
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I mean, yeah -- Yeah,
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thank God for Lenny Bruce.
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Let's see.
Let's see, what's nice to follow
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a good, heavy, morose thing like that?
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A commercial, yeah.
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One time Lenny Bruce was performing,
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and George Carlin was in the audience,
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and the police busted Lenny Bruce.
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As Carlin has told it, you know,
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the cops wanted to check everybody's ID,
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because if they could get
somebody who's underage,
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they could really wreak havoc.
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And you know, you have young George Carlin
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trying to be arrested with Lenny Bruce
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to be able to ride in the paddy wagon with him.
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"If they're gonna bust Lenny,
they're gonna bust me."
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It gives me goose bumps
just thinking about that.
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And Lenny Bruce said, you know,
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"How did you get in here?"
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And he said, "Well, I refused
to cooperate with the police."
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And Lenny Bruce said,
"What are you, a schmuck?"
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Carlin came up
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as a kind of traditional,
short hair, stand-up comic.
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He was quite successful
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on getting Ed Sullivan gigs and so forth.
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Here is comedian/comedy star George Carlin.
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Que pasa?
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Al Sleet here, your hippie-dippy weatherman.
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Tonight's forecast -- dark.
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Carlin, at first, wanted just to have success,
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and he got that success,
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and then felt that he was getting that success
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in a way that didn't speak to his heart.
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I used to be this guy.
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Or maybe this guy used to be me.
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I don't know, we were each other at one time.
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It wasn't long ago --
I liked him.
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He was really good, he was funny,
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and I had a lot of fun with him.
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He did some nice things for me, but it was like --
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there was nothing behind him, you know.
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He was kind of just
superficial, just the surface.
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It was all characters.
I wasn't in there.
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I found out I wasn't in my own act.
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The guy who really picks up from Lenny is George,
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who basically kind of goes
right after the taboos again.
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He's constantly picking
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and picking and picking.
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And the Irish priests were always heavily
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into penance and punishment, you know.
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They give you a couple of novenas to do.
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Nine first Fridays, five first Saturdays,
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Stations of the Cross, a trip to Lourdes.
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Wow!
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That was one of the things that bothered me
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a little about my religion,
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was that conflict between pain and pleasure,
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you know, 'cause they were
always pushing for pain,
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and you were always pulling for pleasure, man.
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You know?
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George Carlin was a wordsmith,
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and each of his routines were poetry.
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Memorized poetry.
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Carlin would spend a year
practicing these routines
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where every word was there for a reason.
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Nothing was there by accident.
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My trouble was, I wanted a list.
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Here are these words I'm not supposed to say.
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Let's have a look at them.
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I'll be glad to avoid them
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if I can just see them and know what they are.
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You gotta say them to find out
what they are, man.
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Shit.
Pssh! Aah!
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Oh, fuck.
Pssh!
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Aah!
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George Carlin, more than anyone else,
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even more than Lenny Bruce before him,
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he had fun with vulgarity,
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and that drove people crazy.
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I kept finding more ways
to describe dirty words
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than there were dirty words.
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They call 'em dirty, bad, filthy, foul, vile,
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vulgar, off-color.
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Blue.
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In poor taste.
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Suggestive.
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Cursing, cussing,
swearing, profanity, obscenity.
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All I could think of was shit, piss,
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fuck, cunt, cocksucker,
motherfucker, and tits, man.
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As you watch the bit,
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he initially gets the shock laugh,
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and then he begins inserting these vulgarities
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into very normal, comfortable, musical,
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almost lyrical language
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to show you how ridiculous it is.
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Shit, piss, fuck, cunt,
cocksucker, motherfucker, tits.
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Cocksucker, motherfucker, tits.
Cocksucker, motherfucker, tits.
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Cocksucker, motherfucker, tits.
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All the seven words
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are beautiful ingredients to a great melody.
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A great way to start an orchestra.
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I got Carlin records, and I remember,
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my dad was listening to it with me,
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and my dad was an English major,
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so anything with wordplay and language,
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he was always into it.
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Despite the language,
he would still let me hear it.
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The United States Supreme Court has ruled
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that the government can act against broadcasters
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who present offensive material.
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The 5-4 decision upheld
the government reprimand
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of a radio station
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that broadcast a record
by comedian George Carlin.
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WBAI played a cut from an album.
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The cut is called "Filthy Words,"
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and it's a follow-up to
an earlier album piece I did
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called "The 7 Words You Can
Never Say on Television."
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WBAI played it in the context
of a program they were doing
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in the mid-afternoon
about contemporary language
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and attitudes toward language.
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The FCC took issue with WBAI
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based on a complaint by a listener
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who was in his automobile
at the time with his son,
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and he claimed that it was indecent.
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He claimed that it was
an invasion of his privacy,
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and that his son
shouldn't be subjected to that.
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"The 7 Words You Can't Say on Television"
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don't exist before George Carlin.
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Those are not seven words
you can't say on television.
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He put those words together
because of the rhythm,
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because of the way they sounded,
and for the routine.
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And then instantly,
it goes into the court record,
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and the FCC, and everybody pretends
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that these are the actual words.
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He created the very battle
that was fought against him.
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The Federal Communications Commission said
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that New York's WBAI
was wrong in playing the record,
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though the FCC imposed no punishment immediately,
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and the Supreme Court agreed.
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I was raised at a time where using bad language
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was associated with people of low intelligence.
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And he helped break that stereotype for me.
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Carlin even has a bit,
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"There's No Such Thing As Bad Words."
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There's bad intentions, but
there's not bad words, you know?
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So, I --
That was freedom.
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As soon as something's desensitized,
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then it becomes the normal.
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Then when it becomes the normal,
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then it doesn't become offensive.
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Then when something isn't offensive,
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then we're not afraid of it anymore.
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Everything George Carlin said
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was basically him looking at the world going,
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"Grow up, grow up, grow up."
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Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker,
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motherfucker, and tits.
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Now, that was the original list.
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We've added a few words since then.
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We've added fart, turd, and twat.
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And I know there are some other words
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that many of you are wondering about,
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why they haven't been considered,
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why they haven't shown up
on the list thus far.
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We're looking at them all very closely.
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Some of your favorites
might make the list this year.
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Asshole, ball bag, hard-on,
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piss hard, blue balls,
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taint, nookie, snatch, box,
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pussy, pecker, peckerhead, pecker-tracks,
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jism, joint,
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donicker, dork, poontang.
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Cornhole and dingleberry.
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Until Redd Foxx came along in 1956,
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nobody had ever recorded their stand-up act
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and released it as an album.
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Redd Foxx is distinguished
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because he invented
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essentially the genre of
stand-up comedy record.
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Everybody in my hometown bought a jackass.
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Preacher's wife had the biggest ass in town.
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I know because I rode
her big ass all the time.
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Sometime I'd ride her ass along.
Her ass was sweating.
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I'd slip right off her big, sweaty ass.
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Redd Foxx was making
very explicitly sexual records,
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blue records, or off-color records
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that were sold in African-American communities.
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Everybody that I knew when I was growing up
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had Redd Foxx records.
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He was listened to by African-Americans
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on a massive level,
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but he was unknown
in mainstream society virtually.
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What are party records?
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You play 'em in a party.
You ever been to a party?
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You put the records on when it's kind of dull,
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and then wait.
Yeah? Are they --
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Party starts.
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Naughty?
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Yes.
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There's a new bikini bathing suit
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coming out this summer.
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New bikini girls.
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It's two Band-Aids and a cork.
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All right, two corks.
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My parents had the Redd Foxx
dirty jokes record in the house.
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And they would put it on after I'd go to bed.
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I'm like -- like it was porn
or something, you know.
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Hygiene.
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The toughest thing in the world,
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have to turn to your mate
one night and say,
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"You got to wash your ass."
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Knowing how difficult it is,
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I said it for you in this album.
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"You got to wash your ass."
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When you went to the record store,
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you often had to ask for these albums
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because they wouldn't be out
that you could just go
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and pick them up out of the bin.
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They were often hidden or in
a certain part of the store
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where you needed some sort of assistance
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from the people in the store
517
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,160
because they were thought
to be too scandalous.
518
00:24:07,180 --> 00:24:09,180
I've heard several of them, and it's a miracle
519
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,269
that you're able to select lines
520
00:24:10,289 --> 00:24:12,119
from them to do on television.
521
00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:17,200
The party records that
Redd Foxx did were underground,
522
00:24:17,220 --> 00:24:19,200
but underground to mainstream society.
523
00:24:19,220 --> 00:24:21,059
So the mainstream didn't
know anything about it
524
00:24:21,079 --> 00:24:24,039
and didn't want any part of it at that point.
525
00:24:26,029 --> 00:24:28,130
There ain't no way to
get an ambulance in the ghetto,
526
00:24:28,150 --> 00:24:29,240
right, unless you call up,
527
00:24:29,259 --> 00:24:32,220
"There's five niggers killing a white woman."
528
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,019
Some dudes would talk to you
529
00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:35,140
while they kicked your ass, right?
530
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,029
"Why you want to fuck with me, man?"
531
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,289
Shit!
532
00:24:40,009 --> 00:24:42,150
Somebody get this nigger offa me.
533
00:24:43,250 --> 00:24:45,259
What?
I didn't know the nigger was blind.
534
00:24:47,180 --> 00:24:50,089
I don't know how you feel
about the title of your album,
535
00:24:50,109 --> 00:24:51,269
but I find it difficult to say.
536
00:24:51,289 --> 00:24:55,039
You do? Most white people,
it's hard to say "crazy."
537
00:24:56,289 --> 00:24:58,119
You tell them the title of the album.
538
00:24:58,140 --> 00:24:59,200
I can't say that.
539
00:24:59,220 --> 00:25:03,259
The title of the album is, "That Nigger's Crazy."
540
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,130
See, now, you can just say that.
541
00:25:05,150 --> 00:25:07,059
If I said that, wouldn't you get mad?
542
00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:08,150
I'd punch you out.
543
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,250
Richard Pryor was influenced by Redd Foxx,
544
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:14,000
but what he did was to bring
545
00:25:14,019 --> 00:25:17,029
some of that sensibility to the mainstream.
546
00:25:17,049 --> 00:25:19,119
The idea that a guy who had been developing
547
00:25:19,140 --> 00:25:21,230
this new, provocative, racial material
548
00:25:21,250 --> 00:25:24,049
suddenly break through to a mainstream audience
549
00:25:24,069 --> 00:25:25,230
was a big moment.
550
00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:27,250
A lot of people here might be offended,
551
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:30,170
so you should leave now 'cause
I'm gonna say fuck and suck.
552
00:25:32,269 --> 00:25:34,160
And shit and doo-doo.
553
00:25:37,220 --> 00:25:39,259
Pryor used profanity in a way
554
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:41,190
that even exceeded Lenny Bruce
555
00:25:41,210 --> 00:25:43,140
and all the comics who went before him.
556
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,200
He made the use of those terms
557
00:25:45,220 --> 00:25:48,109
seem to be a part of everyday life
558
00:25:48,130 --> 00:25:50,109
and made the people listening to his comedy
559
00:25:50,130 --> 00:25:51,279
accept the characters saying them,
560
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,059
and that being who they realistically were.
561
00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:56,049
This is the way these people really talk.
562
00:25:56,069 --> 00:25:59,180
He changed this low comedy into high art
563
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,059
in a way that no one had done before.
564
00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:05,289
'Cause I remember the motherfucker.
565
00:26:06,009 --> 00:26:08,089
He could make a motherfucker laugh
566
00:26:08,109 --> 00:26:10,170
at a funeral on Sunday, Christmas Day.
567
00:26:12,069 --> 00:26:14,119
It was about making sure that he told the truth,
568
00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:16,140
and he said it on several occasions,
569
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,039
that that's what he was trying to do.
570
00:26:19,210 --> 00:26:22,069
My dad would always say,
"If only you knew Lenny Bruce,"
571
00:26:22,089 --> 00:26:24,059
and I didn't understand that until much later.
572
00:26:25,140 --> 00:26:28,119
And I think it was because for my dad,
573
00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:32,119
that was kind of the beginning of speaking --
574
00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:34,200
speaking truth to power, they say,
575
00:26:34,220 --> 00:26:36,190
politically and consciously.
576
00:26:36,210 --> 00:26:40,019
I would also like to thank the cameramen
577
00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:41,240
who have done such a wonderful job
578
00:26:41,259 --> 00:26:44,039
in getting rid of the black cameraman.
579
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,069
Lenny kind of lit that fire,
580
00:26:48,089 --> 00:26:51,269
and my dad and Carlin took it this way,
581
00:26:51,289 --> 00:26:53,130
and it never stopped.
582
00:26:55,049 --> 00:26:57,109
Richard is the rawest
motherfucker in show business.
583
00:26:57,130 --> 00:26:59,099
Richard is the one
that made me want to do comedy.
584
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,259
I wanted to be Richard so bad,
585
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:02,269
I used to go out onstage when I was 15
586
00:27:02,289 --> 00:27:05,150
and talk and act and walk and do
everything like Richard Pryor.
587
00:27:05,170 --> 00:27:07,220
My mother would sit there and
watch her little 15-year-old son
588
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,230
onstage saying some outlandish shit.
589
00:27:09,250 --> 00:27:11,259
My whole act back then was about taking a shit
590
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:14,019
'cause that's all I had done at 15.
591
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:16,279
I think every African-American comedian,
592
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,230
to some degree, was inspired by Richard Pryor.
593
00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:22,130
Eddie Murphy did get
into using four-letter words
594
00:27:22,150 --> 00:27:23,240
more out of a sense of,
595
00:27:23,259 --> 00:27:25,069
"I'm trying to shock you."
596
00:27:25,089 --> 00:27:26,230
I got a lot of people from other countries
597
00:27:26,250 --> 00:27:28,019
that have seen my films that come over
598
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:29,190
to the United States 'cause in New York,
599
00:27:29,210 --> 00:27:31,160
it's like a tourist place, and they get HBO,
600
00:27:31,180 --> 00:27:33,190
and they catch "Delirious,"
and they can't speak English
601
00:27:33,210 --> 00:27:34,269
and try to do my act on the street,
602
00:27:34,289 --> 00:27:36,099
and all they got is the curses.
603
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,150
I got foreigners from all over
the world walking up going,
604
00:27:38,170 --> 00:27:40,210
"Eddie Murphy!
Fuck you!"
605
00:27:42,220 --> 00:27:44,009
I love it!
606
00:27:44,029 --> 00:27:45,220
Suck my dick, huh?!
607
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,119
Suck it,
you black motherfucker."
608
00:27:51,140 --> 00:27:54,049
I saw Eddie Murphy's "Raw" and "Delirious"
609
00:27:54,069 --> 00:27:57,160
when I was really little, like,
when I was in second grade.
610
00:27:57,180 --> 00:28:00,250
I even knew then --
he nasty, he naughty,
611
00:28:00,269 --> 00:28:03,000
he's not supposed to be saying any of that.
612
00:28:03,019 --> 00:28:07,039
Those are bad, bad words, and it's hilarious.
613
00:28:07,059 --> 00:28:08,279
Do you watch "The Bill Cosby Show"?
614
00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:12,160
I do, too.
I love "Bill Cosby Show."
615
00:28:12,180 --> 00:28:14,140
I been a big fan of Bill Cosby all my life.
616
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,089
Never met the man before, but he called me up
617
00:28:16,109 --> 00:28:18,250
about a year ago and chastised me on the phone
618
00:28:18,269 --> 00:28:20,099
for being too dirty.
619
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:23,150
I was pissed off.
620
00:28:23,170 --> 00:28:25,130
I was so mad, I called Richard Pryor's house up
621
00:28:25,150 --> 00:28:27,170
and said, "Yo, Richard,
Bill Cosby just called me up
622
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:28,279
and told me I was too dirty."
623
00:28:30,140 --> 00:28:32,170
He said, "Dude, do people laugh
when you say what you say?"
624
00:28:32,190 --> 00:28:34,029
I said, "Yes."
He said, "Do you get paid?"
625
00:28:34,049 --> 00:28:35,170
I said, "Yes."
He said, "Well, tell Bill
626
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:37,240
I said have a Coke and a smile
and shut the fuck up."
627
00:28:46,259 --> 00:28:48,230
My imitation of Dolly Parton.
628
00:28:50,130 --> 00:28:53,049
Dolly Parton's mother.
629
00:28:53,069 --> 00:28:54,250
Dolly Parton's brother.
630
00:28:56,220 --> 00:28:58,240
You're making fun
631
00:28:58,259 --> 00:29:01,279
of the brother of a celebrity's testicles!
632
00:29:03,269 --> 00:29:05,190
I had one with a birth control pill,
633
00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:07,000
and I had one with a diaphragm,
634
00:29:07,019 --> 00:29:10,089
and then I had another one with the IUD.
635
00:29:10,109 --> 00:29:11,240
I don't even know what happened to my IUD.
636
00:29:11,259 --> 00:29:13,019
It never came out.
637
00:29:14,130 --> 00:29:18,140
But I have my suspicions
because that kid picks up HBO.
638
00:29:19,259 --> 00:29:21,119
Ahh!
639
00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:24,250
Watch Showtime.
Get the fuck out of my face!
640
00:29:24,269 --> 00:29:28,160
As guys like Pryor and Carlin
came along and shocked you
641
00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:31,289
and were scatological and talked about sex,
642
00:29:32,009 --> 00:29:34,019
as each new stand-up comedian came along,
643
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,160
there was less and less
barriers to break through,
644
00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:38,089
so they would reach further and further
645
00:29:38,109 --> 00:29:40,170
to try to do something
that would shock the audience.
646
00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:51,009
Nesteroff: Sam Kinison embodies
the '80s era of comedy.
647
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:52,130
It was more to like a trend.
648
00:29:52,150 --> 00:29:54,099
People were doing characters
649
00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:56,240
that were extensions of themselves,
650
00:29:56,259 --> 00:29:59,099
so Sam Kinison was Sam Kinison,
651
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:02,029
but onstage, he was Sam Kinison the character
652
00:30:02,049 --> 00:30:04,029
as opposed to Sam Kinison the man.
653
00:30:04,049 --> 00:30:06,130
You never been married?
654
00:30:06,150 --> 00:30:07,279
What's your name?
655
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,170
Michael?
656
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:11,180
Well, Michael, if you ever think
about getting married,
657
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,089
if you ever think you've met the right woman,
658
00:30:13,109 --> 00:30:15,109
you want to settle down, change your life,
659
00:30:15,130 --> 00:30:17,240
will you do me a favor, Mike?
Remember this face.
660
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:23,210
It was really the expression
of the heartbroken man.
661
00:30:23,230 --> 00:30:26,279
We hold a lot of stuff in
because we're civilized people,
662
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,190
and we're trying to do the right thing,
663
00:30:28,210 --> 00:30:31,069
but there's a lot that goes on emotionally
664
00:30:31,089 --> 00:30:32,170
that we can't express.
665
00:30:32,190 --> 00:30:34,069
And to have that little monster
666
00:30:34,089 --> 00:30:37,019
put it out there like that...
667
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:38,130
Great.
668
00:30:38,150 --> 00:30:41,009
It's like a relief valve.
669
00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:44,029
Sam did not care if the audience hated him
670
00:30:44,049 --> 00:30:45,230
and would even bait them, you know.
671
00:30:45,250 --> 00:30:49,160
He would almost challenge them
to leave if they didn't like it.
672
00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:51,009
And when you don't care,
673
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:53,160
that's frequently when you get the best results.
674
00:30:53,180 --> 00:30:55,160
Very seldom someone comes along
675
00:30:55,180 --> 00:30:57,250
who's unusually different and gifted
676
00:30:57,269 --> 00:31:01,079
and creative and presents something that's unusual.
677
00:31:01,099 --> 00:31:02,069
Right.
678
00:31:04,140 --> 00:31:05,240
And the money from last week?
679
00:31:05,259 --> 00:31:07,079
Yep.
680
00:31:07,099 --> 00:31:11,130
Sam Kinison really took comedy
to an extreme in the shouting,
681
00:31:11,150 --> 00:31:12,230
in some of the language,
682
00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:14,259
and in some of the taboo subjects
683
00:31:14,279 --> 00:31:16,069
that he went after.
684
00:31:16,089 --> 00:31:18,009
I read in the paper, they said
685
00:31:18,029 --> 00:31:23,019
that a group of homosexual necrophiliacs
686
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:26,089
had been going around the mortuaries,
687
00:31:26,109 --> 00:31:30,000
offering them money
to let them come in at night
688
00:31:30,019 --> 00:31:32,190
and spend a couple of hours undisturbed
689
00:31:32,210 --> 00:31:34,160
with the freshest male corpse.
690
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:37,109
That's all right for these corpses
691
00:31:37,130 --> 00:31:40,160
because I know these guys
were laying out on slabs.
692
00:31:40,180 --> 00:31:43,109
They're in there going,
"Well, their life was tough,
693
00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:46,170
and that was pretty hard to live up to.
694
00:31:46,190 --> 00:31:50,180
I faced death, and I'm glad
I went through it.
695
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,210
Well, I'm just --
696
00:31:51,230 --> 00:31:53,109
now I'm ready to spend eternity in Heaven
697
00:31:53,130 --> 00:31:55,009
and be with Jesus.
698
00:31:56,259 --> 00:31:59,099
Hey!
699
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:02,109
Hey, what's this shit?!
700
00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:05,109
Oh, I don't believe this!
701
00:32:05,130 --> 00:32:07,289
There's a guy's dick in my ass!"
702
00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:11,160
Just that guy sitting there
going, "Oh, what's this?"
703
00:32:11,180 --> 00:32:15,180
That moment --
boy, that was funny.
704
00:32:16,190 --> 00:32:18,289
"No laughing matter," that's what critics
705
00:32:19,009 --> 00:32:20,130
are saying about some routines
706
00:32:20,150 --> 00:32:22,140
that are passed off as comedy these days,
707
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,279
a lot of it on television.
708
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,119
Is it the cutting edge of social satire
709
00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:28,059
or the adult expression
710
00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:30,190
of what some children write on sidewalks?
711
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:39,230
Little Miss Muffet sat on a tuffet
712
00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:42,059
eating her curds and whey.
713
00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:44,220
Along came a spider, he sat down beside her.
714
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,140
He said, "Hey, what's in the bowl, bitch?"
715
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,210
Oh!
716
00:32:49,230 --> 00:32:53,210
Dice was dirty.
Dice's language was filthy.
717
00:32:53,230 --> 00:32:57,119
The only thing that made Dice
different was that his blue,
718
00:32:57,140 --> 00:33:00,250
his dirty, was controversial.
719
00:33:00,269 --> 00:33:02,210
I really, though, don't understand
720
00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:05,180
why women go to hear Dice Clay.
721
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,190
To me, it's like,
722
00:33:07,210 --> 00:33:10,250
a Jew going to Hitler rally.
723
00:33:10,269 --> 00:33:13,069
I treat my girlfriend good.
Like, for Christmas,
724
00:33:13,089 --> 00:33:17,089
I bought her this beautiful dust pan
725
00:33:17,109 --> 00:33:19,170
with her name engraved, man.
726
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:21,190
Her whole family was over.
I took it out.
727
00:33:21,210 --> 00:33:24,119
You had to see the look on her fucking face.
728
00:33:24,140 --> 00:33:29,269
Yeah, the guy is a chauvinistic moron,
729
00:33:29,289 --> 00:33:31,269
you know, I wouldn't hang out with that guy,
730
00:33:31,289 --> 00:33:33,259
not if he meant those things.
731
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:35,240
Even as a guy, I wouldn't hang out with him,
732
00:33:35,259 --> 00:33:39,289
because then I'd be saying
he's deranged, you know.
733
00:33:40,009 --> 00:33:42,180
But as a comedian, it's very funny,
734
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,069
and it doesn't hurt anybody.
735
00:33:45,089 --> 00:33:48,029
To be outrageous and bad boy
736
00:33:48,049 --> 00:33:51,150
and breaking the rules is extremely lucrative.
737
00:33:51,170 --> 00:33:53,250
It is extremely pandering.
738
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:57,079
There's a lot of comedy
that's done under the guise
739
00:33:57,099 --> 00:33:58,269
of being the edge, which isn't
740
00:33:58,289 --> 00:34:04,279
because it's actually connecting
with the basest audience.
741
00:34:10,090 --> 00:34:12,059
I found through great effort,
742
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:13,130
at least one remark of his
743
00:34:13,150 --> 00:34:15,010
that I could say on the air.
Yeah?
744
00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:17,280
He describes his sexual technique as, and I quote,
745
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,079
"So I say to the bitch,
lose the bra, or I'll cut you."
746
00:34:21,099 --> 00:34:23,179
Is that funny?
What you're asking me to do
747
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,139
is defend Andrew Dice Clay's act.
748
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,019
No, I'm asking you, is that funny?
749
00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:29,119
I don't know what the context was.
750
00:34:29,139 --> 00:34:31,260
Obviously, the way you just said
it, no, it's not funny,
751
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,059
but the fact of it is, for me,
752
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:36,099
what he does is a character,
753
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:39,000
and when he's up there, and he's onstage,
754
00:34:39,019 --> 00:34:40,030
it's a comedian.
755
00:34:40,050 --> 00:34:41,059
How are ya?!
756
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:43,210
Who's Dice?
Who's Andrew Clay?
757
00:34:43,230 --> 00:34:45,079
Who's the Jewish kid?
758
00:34:45,099 --> 00:34:47,199
Who's the guy that's acting Italian?
759
00:34:47,219 --> 00:34:50,119
Well, you want to know who he is?
760
00:34:50,139 --> 00:34:52,119
I'll tell ya.
761
00:35:00,230 --> 00:35:02,150
Andrew Clay is a guy that came out here
762
00:35:02,170 --> 00:35:05,150
about ten years ago...
763
00:35:05,170 --> 00:35:10,110
and broke his ass, you know what I mean?
764
00:35:10,130 --> 00:35:12,239
Broke his ass, he believed in hisself,
765
00:35:12,260 --> 00:35:15,179
became the hottest comic in the world,
766
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:18,050
and anybody that doesn't like it
could wipe their ass
767
00:35:18,070 --> 00:35:19,250
with whatever they say about me.
768
00:35:21,170 --> 00:35:23,250
That wasn't Dice that broke down,
769
00:35:23,269 --> 00:35:25,039
that was Andrew.
770
00:35:25,059 --> 00:35:27,239
The backlash was so strong
771
00:35:27,260 --> 00:35:29,199
that it got past the Dice character
772
00:35:29,219 --> 00:35:32,090
and got to the Andrew guy
and made him feel bad
773
00:35:32,110 --> 00:35:33,179
for what was being said.
774
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:37,260
Did it celebrate a certain type of thinking
775
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,190
that probably doesn't need
any more celebrating?
776
00:35:41,210 --> 00:35:44,269
Yeah, maybe, but did it make it
look stupid, as well?
777
00:35:44,289 --> 00:35:47,210
Did it make it look moronic?
Yes.
778
00:35:47,230 --> 00:35:50,000
Thanks a lot, man.
779
00:35:50,019 --> 00:35:52,159
You're great.
Thank you.
780
00:35:52,179 --> 00:35:54,110
I'll see you soon.
Good night.
781
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,190
I've always been obsessed with women,
782
00:36:00,210 --> 00:36:04,030
and I've often wondered,
783
00:36:04,050 --> 00:36:07,010
if I'd -- if I'd grown up in Poland,
784
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:09,250
when Hitler came to power,
785
00:36:09,269 --> 00:36:13,269
and was sent to a concentration camp,
786
00:36:13,289 --> 00:36:19,030
would I still be checking out
women in the camp?
787
00:36:19,050 --> 00:36:20,219
I think I would, you know?
788
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,019
Off-limits is not a permanent address.
789
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:25,130
It's just a marker that keeps getting moved.
790
00:36:25,150 --> 00:36:26,289
You couldn't say "pregnant" on TV
791
00:36:27,010 --> 00:36:29,199
when Lucille Ball was pregnant on "I Love Lucy."
792
00:36:29,219 --> 00:36:30,260
It keeps changing.
793
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,230
So, anyone who says,
"Well, it's off limits,"
794
00:36:34,250 --> 00:36:36,130
well, enjoy the next ten minutes
795
00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:38,289
'cause that's about as long
as that's gonna last.
796
00:36:39,010 --> 00:36:42,159
The thing today, the thing
right now you can't make fun of?
797
00:36:42,179 --> 00:36:45,059
You think it's too sensitive at this moment?
798
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:46,210
Transgendered people.
799
00:36:48,050 --> 00:36:49,179
See?
800
00:36:52,269 --> 00:36:54,190
You can't do it.
801
00:36:54,210 --> 00:36:56,000
Can't make fun of 'em.
802
00:36:56,019 --> 00:36:57,119
It's too sensitive.
803
00:36:57,139 --> 00:37:00,019
In fact, you can't even call them
804
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:01,260
"chicks with dicks" anymore.
805
00:37:03,059 --> 00:37:06,139
No.
No.
806
00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:09,280
You have to call them men who talk too much.
807
00:37:12,269 --> 00:37:15,039
There's been so many dirty jokes,
808
00:37:15,059 --> 00:37:17,210
so you can't do some cliché dick joke
809
00:37:17,230 --> 00:37:21,050
that everybody's heard before,
or some cliché big pussy joke.
810
00:37:21,070 --> 00:37:23,030
You better do something fresh and new
811
00:37:23,050 --> 00:37:25,150
that nobody's ever talked about before.
812
00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:28,230
Most women won't let their husbands watch
813
00:37:28,250 --> 00:37:30,280
when they're going through a miscarriage.
814
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,289
I sat my husband down in front of me
815
00:37:33,010 --> 00:37:34,110
while I sat on the toilet,
816
00:37:34,130 --> 00:37:36,280
and I was, like, "You look.
817
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,269
You watch the whole thing."
818
00:37:39,289 --> 00:37:41,280
And he felt so bad for me,
819
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,150
and I used it as leverage
820
00:37:43,170 --> 00:37:46,150
and held that shit over his head for a month
821
00:37:46,170 --> 00:37:48,059
and got him to do whatever the fuck
822
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:51,019
I wanted him to do for 30 days.
823
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:53,239
He took me to see Beyoncé.
824
00:37:53,260 --> 00:37:56,039
He bought me a bike off of Craigslist.
825
00:37:56,059 --> 00:38:00,150
That's my miscarriage bike,
and I love it very much.
826
00:38:00,170 --> 00:38:05,090
For 30 days, I finally had
the marriage I always wanted.
827
00:38:05,110 --> 00:38:07,119
If you're filthy, the lower you go,
828
00:38:07,139 --> 00:38:09,179
the funnier you better be,
and I'll go with you.
829
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:12,059
I mean, there's filth that
I absolutely adore,
830
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:14,039
but if it's just all you have,
831
00:38:14,059 --> 00:38:16,019
then you shouldn't be here.
832
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:18,190
Girls grow up so fast.
833
00:38:18,210 --> 00:38:21,000
It's -- It's like they don't
have childhoods anymore.
834
00:38:21,019 --> 00:38:22,190
They're sexualized so early.
835
00:38:22,210 --> 00:38:23,269
You know, I --
836
00:38:23,289 --> 00:38:25,260
A girlfriend of mine has a little baby girl,
837
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,210
and I babysat her.
838
00:38:27,230 --> 00:38:31,079
I changed her diaper.
Totally shaved.
839
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:39,289
6 months old.
840
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:45,170
It's always just about
busting things that are taboo.
841
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:48,039
Unless you're brave enough to lose people,
842
00:38:48,059 --> 00:38:50,139
they why are you doing this?
843
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:53,070
Some people start off
with some friendly material,
844
00:38:53,090 --> 00:38:56,289
and they build up to the intense stuff later on.
845
00:38:57,010 --> 00:38:58,190
I like to just walk out there
846
00:38:58,210 --> 00:39:01,070
and do my most offensive joke first
847
00:39:01,090 --> 00:39:03,119
in the hope that the people who will go --
848
00:39:03,139 --> 00:39:05,119
who were gonna walk away in 40 minutes,
849
00:39:05,139 --> 00:39:06,190
will walk out now,
850
00:39:06,210 --> 00:39:08,199
and we can actually enjoy ourselves.
851
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,159
Bill Cosby.
852
00:39:13,179 --> 00:39:17,260
It turns out that Bill Cosby is a rapist.
853
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,159
I know, I always used to
watch him on the telly as a kid,
854
00:39:22,179 --> 00:39:24,110
and I always used to think to myself,
855
00:39:24,130 --> 00:39:26,280
"Ah, I bet he doesn't rape."
856
00:39:28,110 --> 00:39:32,159
I've been wrong before,
and I'll be wrong again.
857
00:39:33,110 --> 00:39:35,230
You see, a comedian, by the very
nature of what he is,
858
00:39:35,250 --> 00:39:37,130
is a troublemaker.
859
00:39:37,150 --> 00:39:38,260
He is an iconoclast.
860
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,019
He is a playful troublemaker,
a good-natured troublemaker,
861
00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:42,250
but a troublemaker, and therefore,
862
00:39:42,269 --> 00:39:47,190
he must recognize the existence
of certain taboos.
863
00:39:47,210 --> 00:39:48,269
Free speech involves
864
00:39:48,289 --> 00:39:51,030
getting free speech coming back at you.
865
00:39:51,050 --> 00:39:52,110
A rape joke is a good example.
866
00:39:52,130 --> 00:39:54,019
You make a rape joke, and it's shit, right?
867
00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:55,199
And you go, "You're the fucking douchebag.
868
00:39:55,219 --> 00:39:57,070
You shouldn't have never made that joke."
869
00:39:57,090 --> 00:39:59,099
"You're harshing my First Amendment Rights."
870
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:01,159
No, I'm not.
It's my First Amendment rights
871
00:40:01,179 --> 00:40:03,150
to call you a dick when you're a fucking dick.
872
00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:05,269
You're a dick.
That joke sucked.
873
00:40:05,289 --> 00:40:07,190
Free speech, motherfucker.
874
00:40:09,010 --> 00:40:11,150
There's more freedom now than ever before,
875
00:40:11,170 --> 00:40:13,019
and the reason there's more freedom now
876
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:15,059
is because of people like Redd Foxx,
877
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:17,119
like Richard Pryor, like George Carlin,
878
00:40:17,139 --> 00:40:20,250
who kind of martyred themselves
in the '60s who got in trouble
879
00:40:20,269 --> 00:40:23,050
for saying very innocuous things,
880
00:40:23,070 --> 00:40:25,130
and we owe them a lot of credit.
881
00:40:25,150 --> 00:40:27,130
You guys mad about that one?
882
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,269
It's gonna get so much fucking worse.
883
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,130
Look, anybody who talks graphically,
884
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:38,070
we owe Lenny Bruce.
885
00:40:38,090 --> 00:40:40,210
That was done for us by him.
886
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:42,110
We all know how to work clean.
887
00:40:42,130 --> 00:40:44,280
I mean, I say "fuck" too much.
There's no doubt.
888
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,139
But I can.
889
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:48,170
Do you remember --
before we leave,
890
00:40:48,190 --> 00:40:52,019
do you remember the actual seven words?
891
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:54,239
Umm -- God.
892
00:40:54,260 --> 00:40:57,000
Oh, geez, I had 'em memorized,
893
00:40:57,019 --> 00:40:58,269
and I wasn't prepared to do it right now.
894
00:40:58,289 --> 00:41:00,239
It's weird.
I never committed them to memory.
895
00:41:00,260 --> 00:41:04,170
I don't want to say them now
because people may be watching.
896
00:41:04,190 --> 00:41:09,090
Tits, shit, cock...
897
00:41:09,110 --> 00:41:11,010
Shit, piss, motherfucker,
898
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:12,099
cocksucker, tits.
899
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:14,019
Did I miss one?
900
00:41:14,260 --> 00:41:16,139
You know, the problem is,
901
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:18,070
I don't even think the words are dirty,
902
00:41:18,090 --> 00:41:20,230
so it's hard to remember
what the fuck they are.
903
00:41:20,250 --> 00:41:22,119
Shit, tit, cock...
904
00:41:22,139 --> 00:41:23,130
I'm missing one.
905
00:41:23,150 --> 00:41:25,170
What's -- Shit --
906
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:27,170
Oh, "cocksucker."
907
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:29,090
Of course.
908
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:34,159
Are you serious, Lewis?
909
00:41:34,179 --> 00:41:35,250
Shit, tit, cock...
910
00:41:35,269 --> 00:41:39,139
Dick, penis, cock, vagina, pussy.
911
00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:43,090
Oh, yeah.
Cunt.
912
00:41:43,110 --> 00:41:44,099
Motherfucker.
913
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:46,030
I was right, I said motherfucker.
914
00:41:46,050 --> 00:41:49,119
Shit, piss,
915
00:41:49,139 --> 00:41:52,119
cock, cunt, motherfucker, cocksucker --
916
00:41:52,139 --> 00:41:53,230
I left "piss" out, I think.
917
00:41:53,250 --> 00:41:55,119
Shit, tits, fuck, cunt,
918
00:41:55,139 --> 00:41:56,260
cocksucker, motherfucker, and piss.
919
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,179
Oh, my God!
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