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โ Your story shows
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that the highest levels
of the company
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knew exactly how dangerous
the drug was.
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โ Okay, I'll testify.
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Please, I just need some Oxy.
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She's relapsing
from the stress.
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She can't testify.
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โ No! No, Dad, please!
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โ...destroyed our damn family!
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โ Please, Dad!
โ Get your hands off of me!
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A shares have a majority
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and Richard Sackler
is now named
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president of Purdue Pharma.
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โ Dr. Finnix, is this yours?
You're under arrest.
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How long you here for?
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โ 90 days.
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You think you can
get me some pills?
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โ What's your next move?
โ Go back to the FDA
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to make another set of demands
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to restrict access
to this drug.
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โ Can you think about
how what you're doing
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might be affecting me?
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โ No, I can't. I'm sorry.
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This is how I grew up, Lucas.
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Watching my friends
die from drugs.
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If you continue on this path,
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you're going to end up
just like them.
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โ Hughes. Mark Hughes.
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Corvelli, Josh.
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โ My name is Jay McCloskey.
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I am the U.S. Attorney
for the State of Maine.
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I am here today because
rampant drug abuse
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has infiltrated
our great state.
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Dr. Richard?
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Sorry to disturb you at lunch,
but there's an urgent issue.
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โ An 80 mg tablet of OxyContin
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sells on the street for $100.
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This diversion has created a
domino effect of related crime.
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As U.S. Attorney,
I will be sending letters
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to doctors across our state
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to alert them to
the grave dangers of OxyContin.
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Any questions?
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โ It says that OxyContin
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is becoming the most
serious criminal problemโโ
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โ Yes, I know how to read.
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How many of these letters
were sent?
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โ He sent one
to every single doctor
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in the entire state of Maine.
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I remember the day
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that I first decided
to get clean.
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Me and my buddy Josh, we had
this drug test coming up, um,
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which is not great news
for two addicts, you know.
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So we ran to our dealer
and we're like,
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"Hey, man,
you know, what can we do?"
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And he tells us,
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"If you drink bleach
on the day of your test,
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it cleans your blood."
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So, the day of the test
comes around,
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and we're in the back
of the car,
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and we got this industrial
strength container of bleach,
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and we drink.
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Except the bleach fucking
burns like hell going down,
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so immediately I'm gagging,
You know, I spit it everywhere.
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But Josh, manโโfucking Josh,
heโโhe downs it.
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Uh, the day Josh died
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is the day I knew
I needed to get clean.
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Uh, a year ago today, actually.
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Um, I've been to rehab
three times now, but,
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God, I finally feel like
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it's starting to make sense,
you know?
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โ My third time was when it
really started to make sense.
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โ Thanks, Dirk.
It takes a lot of guts
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to admit that your life
has become unmanageable.
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And we got your back.
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โ Thank you.
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โ Samuel.
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It's your turn.
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Would you like to share
anything today?
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โ Oh, uh,
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no, no.
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โ Maybe tomorrow.
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โ Yeah.
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โ Ian.
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We haven't heard from you yet.
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โ Hey.
โ Hey, man. What's up?
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โ I was thinking
about what y'all
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were talking about out there.
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Hโโhow many times
have y'all been to rehab?
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โ This is my, uh, fourth time.
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โ Fifth for me.
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โ All of it here?
Same place?
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โ Nah, I've been
to three other centers.
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I like this one the best.
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โ Mmโhmm.
โ Yeah, me too.
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โ I'm justโโI'm just worried,
you know?
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Worried maybe it doesn't work.
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โ Hey, Samuel, this place
was amazing for my cousin.
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He hasn't had a drink
in nine years.
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โ Look, man, it's either here,
jail, or the morgue.
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โ Yeah.
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I feel ignored sometimes.
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It's, uh, not easy
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being with someone who's never
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really present with you.
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โ I feel bad. Iโโ
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it's justโโit's hard for me to
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talk about things
that are not workโrelated.
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โ Yeah, she's obsessed
with work.
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โ I'm not obsessed with work.
โ You are.
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โ I'm just trying to prevent
mass deaths from occurring
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across the country.
โ I can't really compete with
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mass deaths
across the country.
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โ I'm not asking you
to compete with that.
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I'm just asking you
to understand that
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I can't just turn that off.
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โ But you may be causing
the death of your marriage.
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Do you see
Paul's point of view?
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โ I don't want that. Iโโ
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I'm really trying.
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I'm right here.
โ I'm right here.
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โ I want this to work out.
โ I do too.
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โ Hello, everyone.
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I truly appreciate you all
meeting with me again.
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I, um,
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I know our last interaction
was less than ideal.
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But my therapist says
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it's never too late
to apologize.
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โ Well, sounds like you have
a terrific therapist.
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โ So I have brought
numerous articles
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from major publications
about the dangers of OxyContin
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that has put Purdue
on the defensive.
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Public pressure is building.
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โ I have also seen several
articles about DEA overreach.
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โ Yeah, well, those stories
were planted by Purdue.
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โ Deputy Director Meyer,
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are you aware that
there are millions of people
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who swear by this medication?
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โ There are just as many lives
that are being destroyed by it.
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And I'm not just talking
about the ones who have died,
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but the lives that they touch.
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Their friends, their family.
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Communities are being ravaged
by crime over this drug.
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Marriages and friendships
have ended
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because of a pill
that, in some instances,
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neither person
has ever even taken.
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โ The FDA's position
on OxyContin
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is that it is safe
when used as directed.
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But we would take action
against it
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if the drug was shown to be
unsafe when used as prescribed.
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โ But determining the safety
of the drug is the FDA's job.
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โ And we have already
carried out our job
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during the approval process.
โ Well, what if you were wrong?
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โ Bridget.
โ It's possible.
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โ The FDA would admit
we were wrong,
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if that was proven
to be the case.
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โ So if I were to prove
that OxyContin is dangerous
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when taken as prescribed,
then the FDA would act?
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โ Absolutely. We don't want
anyone to get hurt.
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But we need proof that
the drug itself is defective
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if we are going
to take a drastic
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and restrictive action
against any drug,
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especially one that millions of
people have come to rely upon.
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How many are dying?
Who is dying?
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And how are they dying?
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This is what I want to know.
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โ I'm sorry, what exactly
are you asking for?
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โ I want you to pull together
all the data we have
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on overdose deaths
from OxyContin,
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and I want them organized
by state and region.
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โ The DEA doesn't have
data on overdoses.
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โ What do you meanโโyou don't?
โ No.
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That information
would be spread out
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across the country,
stateโbyโstate,
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or even countyโbyโcounty,
patchwork of isolated reports.
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It would be incredibly
difficult to gather it all.
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โ Well, I'm a very
difficult woman.
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Let's do it.
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โ Are you joking?
โ No, I'm not.
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I want to do
an exhaustive study
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on OxyContin overdose deaths,
and this is keyโโ
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I want to know
how many of those deaths
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are coming from people
who are taking the drug
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exactly as prescribed.
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Is that something you can
ascertain from the autopsy?
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โ Potentially, yes, but,
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just to be clear,
so you understand
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exactly what you're asking for.
โ Okay.
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โ We're going to
have to go through
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thousands of autopsies
individually,
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match autopsies
with police reports,
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and dig through
handwritten notes.
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It will take
quite a bit of time.
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โ I don't care
how much time it takes.
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Morning, Rick.
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Happy anniversary.
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We opened the case
three years ago.
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I was gonna get you
rhubarb pie,
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but the bakery was out.
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Feels like
a long three years.
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Still haven't even begun
to nail a top executive.
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โ Come on, man.
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We were so close
to a whistleblower.
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And we're gonna
find another one.
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We're solid on misbranding.
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We can show the 1% claim
was fraudulent.
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So, I mean,
there's a lot here for a jury.
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โ I'm not worried about a jury.
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I'mโโI'm worried
about Main Justice,
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because you know
who's gonna go out and lobby
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everyone he knows there,
and I just don't want
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this case to get
brushed under the rug.
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But if we start charging
individuals with felonies,
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we need the kill shot.
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โ What was the name of that
U.S. Attorney up in Maine?
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โ Jay McCloskey?
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โ Did he dig
into Purdue at all?
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I think he had
a few meetings with them,
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but nothing significant
came from it.
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I'll reach out to him.
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I think
he's in private practice now.
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โ We should look
into the doctors again.
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See if we missed something.
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โ Like what?
โ Some sort of kickback scheme.
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Or maybe an illegal promotion
that we can tie back
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to upper management.
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โ If we circle back
to the doctors,
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we should start with the ones
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that we busted
for overโprescription.
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Maybe after a few years
sitting in jail,
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they'd be willing
to tell us more.
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โ Oh, yeah.
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โ And I'll reach out
to Jay McCloskey.
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โ Sounds good.
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I'm gonna get to it.
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Hey.
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Happy anniversary.
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You said it.
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โ Tonight, we celebrate
OxyContin
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passing $1 billion
a year in sales!
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Yeah!
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Two years ahead of schedule.
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Everyone at HQ
sends their best wishes,
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and they want you all to know
that there's no way
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they could have done this
without you.
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โ That's right.
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Hey, we have a hot line
to the cab company tonight,
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in case, you know,
you slip yourself an OxyContin.
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โ So let's get this party
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started, all right? DJ!
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Yeah!
251
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It's about that time
to make way
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on the dance floor right now.
253
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Hope you got your drinks.
254
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I'ma have a Long Island
at the bar.
255
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โ Hey, thanks, man.
256
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Can I get another one
straight away?
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Another one?
258
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So when I show up
for the first time,
259
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it's00 in the morning,
260
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and there's literallyโโ
it's like a tailgate party.
261
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- Are you serious?
- I shit you not.
262
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They're drinking beers
in the parking lot
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with a line out the door.
โ Shit.
264
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โ It's wild. I literally work
one day a month.
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โ You're a fucking asshole.
266
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Working one day a month.
267
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Did you say something,
buddy?
268
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- Who's this guy?
- Oh, me?
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Yeah.
โ Oh, I said, um,
270
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I said you're
a fucking asshole.
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Did you not hear?
โ Whoa, whoa, whoa.
272
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Man, calm down.
This fool's justโโ
273
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โ No, man, I'm just
talking to my new buddy, man.
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You got a fucking
problem, dude?
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โ Hey!
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
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โ That's quite a shove.
โ Sorry, he's totally wasted!
277
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โ Yeah.
You should be careful, though,
278
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'cause I could have
spilled it on your suit.
279
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โ Come on, let's go.
โ You too.
280
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You should keep
your little poodle on a leash.
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Jesus.
We are literally still at work.
282
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What's wrong with you?
283
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โ I don't know.
284
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You're drunk.
285
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Come on, let me take you home
and take advantage of you.
286
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โ Do you even like me, Amber?
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Even a little bit?
288
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โ Sure, I do.
289
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โ That was very convincing.
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Excuse me, colleagues.
291
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For the Lord is my shepherd.
292
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I shall not want.
293
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He maketh me lie down
in pastures.
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He restoresth my soul.
295
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The Lord is with us all.
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Lord Jesus,
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help our dear Betsy
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in the struggle
against addiction.
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Yes, Father!
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Give her strength
to fight this battle.
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Hear our cry, oh, Lord!
302
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In the name of our Lord,
Jesus Christ,
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let her be free!
304
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Let her be free!
305
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Let her be free!
306
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- Let her be free!
- Let her be free.
307
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โ Let me be free!
308
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Let her be free!
309
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โ Let me be free!
310
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Let her be free!
311
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โ Let me be free!
312
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Let her be free!
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โ Let me be free!
Yes.
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Betsy, you, uhโโyou okay?
315
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โ Pastor, uh...
316
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I'm worried that, uh...
317
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this isn't gonna work for me.
318
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โ Why is that?
319
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โ I never believed.
320
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In any of this.
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Ever since I was a little girl.
322
00:16:58,083 --> 00:17:01,500
But yourโโ
your folks told me
323
00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:04,250
you been going to church
your whole life.
324
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โ I did it for them.
325
00:17:08,208 --> 00:17:10,208
โ Well, perhaps part of it
was for you too,
326
00:17:10,208 --> 00:17:12,500
without you even knowing it.
327
00:17:12,500 --> 00:17:14,333
You've always been
near the Lord.
328
00:17:14,333 --> 00:17:16,333
He's always loved you.
329
00:17:20,292 --> 00:17:22,583
โ Do you think
He can help me now?
330
00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:27,000
โ Oh, yes. He can.
331
00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,958
But you have to accept Him
into your heart.
332
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And when you do,
333
00:17:30,667 --> 00:17:31,958
He'll guide you out
of this darkness.
334
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He'll cast that devil
right out of your soul.
335
00:17:35,292 --> 00:17:36,667
'Cause He loves you,
Betsy Mallum,
336
00:17:36,667 --> 00:17:39,125
and deep down inside,
you've always loved Him.
337
00:17:41,792 --> 00:17:43,583
โ Maybe Iโโmaybe I have.
338
00:17:43,583 --> 00:17:45,167
Of course you have.
339
00:17:45,167 --> 00:17:48,625
That's what led you
to church every Sunday.
340
00:17:48,625 --> 00:17:52,958
And that love will lead you
to the path of recovery.
341
00:17:56,333 --> 00:17:59,292
Would you like to pray with me?
342
00:18:13,833 --> 00:18:16,917
I'm kind of worried,
to be honest with you.
343
00:18:16,917 --> 00:18:20,833
I mean, the recidivism rate is
awfully high in these places.
344
00:18:20,833 --> 00:18:23,333
People keep coming back.
345
00:18:23,333 --> 00:18:26,500
What if it just doesn't work?
346
00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:31,042
โ I've been sober 14 years,
seven months,
347
00:18:31,042 --> 00:18:32,708
three weeks, two days.
348
00:18:32,708 --> 00:18:35,750
So many have been saved
by this program.
349
00:18:37,708 --> 00:18:40,417
โ What were you addicted to?
350
00:18:40,417 --> 00:18:43,000
โ I'm a recovering alcoholic.
351
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,208
โ Well, I'm on OxyContin.
Yeah?
352
00:18:45,208 --> 00:18:48,000
And this placeโโ
353
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,708
this place used to be
90% alcohol and cocaine,
354
00:18:50,708 --> 00:18:55,042
and in the past two years,
it's 90% OxyContin.
355
00:18:55,042 --> 00:18:57,917
It's all addiction, Samuel.
โ Yeah.
356
00:18:57,917 --> 00:19:00,208
It's all the same fight.
357
00:19:00,208 --> 00:19:02,042
โ Okay.
358
00:19:02,042 --> 00:19:04,458
โ I want to talk
about the early days,
359
00:19:04,458 --> 00:19:07,750
when you first
started prescribing.
360
00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:09,958
Did Purdue give you
any kickbacks?
361
00:19:09,958 --> 00:19:13,333
โ Just the usual stuff.
362
00:19:13,333 --> 00:19:16,625
Expensive dinners,
tickets to football games.
363
00:19:16,625 --> 00:19:21,292
I went to a few of their
weekend seminars in Orlando.
364
00:19:21,292 --> 00:19:24,250
โ Anything specific about
those weekends that you recall?
365
00:19:25,708 --> 00:19:28,167
โ Pretty girls.
366
00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:30,458
Stuffed animals.
367
00:19:30,458 --> 00:19:35,042
They made a great case
for why the drug was so safe.
368
00:19:35,042 --> 00:19:37,583
โ What did they say?
369
00:19:37,583 --> 00:19:40,000
โ That it was
basically nonโaddictive
370
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,958
because
of its timeโrelease system.
371
00:19:42,958 --> 00:19:44,875
The FDA label
was a big part of it.
372
00:19:47,875 --> 00:19:50,458
And the blood charts.
373
00:19:50,458 --> 00:19:51,958
โ Blood charts. So theseโโ
374
00:19:51,958 --> 00:19:54,250
these are the ones
that showed that the drug
375
00:19:54,250 --> 00:19:56,833
plateaued in the bloodstream
instead of spiked.
376
00:19:56,833 --> 00:19:58,667
โ Yeah, those.
377
00:19:58,667 --> 00:20:00,000
โ Explain those to me,
would you?
378
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,542
'Cause Iโโlike,
I don't always get the science.
379
00:20:02,542 --> 00:20:06,375
โ Charts show that the drug
remained smooth and even
380
00:20:06,375 --> 00:20:08,542
in the blood
because of the timed release,
381
00:20:08,542 --> 00:20:10,500
versus the drug spiking
up and down in the blood
382
00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:12,708
of an immediateโrelease pill,
like Vicodin.
383
00:20:12,708 --> 00:20:14,000
โ Mm.
This made the drug
384
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,417
less prone to abuse,
385
00:20:15,417 --> 00:20:18,500
'cause it didn't give the user
a feeling of euphoria.
386
00:20:21,208 --> 00:20:23,750
โ And you found that
these charts swayed you
387
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:25,292
on the drug's safety.
388
00:20:25,292 --> 00:20:28,375
โ Oh, definitely.
389
00:20:28,375 --> 00:20:30,500
It was the phrase they used.
390
00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:32,833
โ Fewer peaks and valleys.
391
00:20:32,833 --> 00:20:36,583
โ I hadn't heard that before,
and it felt safe.
392
00:20:40,208 --> 00:20:43,542
โ But the drug is not safer.
393
00:20:46,875 --> 00:20:49,833
Then...
394
00:20:49,833 --> 00:20:53,125
wouldn't the charts...
395
00:20:53,125 --> 00:20:57,500
be false?
396
00:20:57,500 --> 00:21:01,542
โ Yeah.
397
00:21:03,083 --> 00:21:05,208
You might be right.
398
00:21:05,208 --> 00:21:07,125
โ Oh, this chart
is absolutely deceptive.
399
00:21:07,125 --> 00:21:08,750
See, right here.
400
00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:10,833
The Yโaxis is
on the logarithmic scale,
401
00:21:10,833 --> 00:21:13,625
not a linear one,
like most normal charts.
402
00:21:13,625 --> 00:21:16,000
So the top number is 100 mg.
403
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,208
Now, on a normal linear scale,
404
00:21:18,208 --> 00:21:21,167
this number halfway down
would be 50.
405
00:21:21,167 --> 00:21:23,667
But see what Purdue did?
406
00:21:23,667 --> 00:21:26,667
They dramatically
compressed the scale.
407
00:21:26,667 --> 00:21:29,750
See here, from 10 to 50,
408
00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:32,625
and then from 50 to 100.
409
00:21:34,083 --> 00:21:35,792
โ What does that mean?
410
00:21:35,792 --> 00:21:37,625
โ It's been manipulated.
411
00:21:37,625 --> 00:21:40,667
The Purdue chart hides the fact
that OxyContin's blood levels
412
00:21:40,667 --> 00:21:42,667
actually drop precipitously
in the first few hours.
413
00:21:42,667 --> 00:21:44,708
If we look at
the nonโmanipulated chart,
414
00:21:44,708 --> 00:21:45,833
we see how it should look.
415
00:21:45,833 --> 00:21:48,542
Even intervals
all the way up the axis,
416
00:21:48,542 --> 00:21:53,000
that shows spikes and drops,
like all opioids have.
417
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,833
โ So you're telling us that
these OxyContin blood charts,
418
00:21:56,833 --> 00:21:59,208
they deliberately
created a false impression.
419
00:21:59,208 --> 00:22:00,542
100%.
420
00:22:00,542 --> 00:22:02,625
This is a false plateau.
421
00:22:02,625 --> 00:22:04,625
And unless you're
a trained data scientist,
422
00:22:04,625 --> 00:22:06,833
you wouldn't catch it.
423
00:22:06,833 --> 00:22:10,208
What's really strange to me
is why the FDA approved it.
424
00:22:10,208 --> 00:22:11,917
โ This would require
FDA approval?
425
00:22:11,917 --> 00:22:13,917
They approve all these charts.
426
00:22:13,917 --> 00:22:16,750
And there's no way they'd miss
the log scale manipulation.
427
00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:18,125
The only way this chart
makes it through
428
00:22:18,125 --> 00:22:22,875
the FDA approval process
is if they turned a blind eye.
429
00:22:27,833 --> 00:22:29,083
There is a deep connection
430
00:22:29,083 --> 00:22:31,458
between drugs and terrorism.
431
00:22:31,458 --> 00:22:33,458
It's history,
432
00:22:33,458 --> 00:22:35,875
but it also reflects
today's reality.
433
00:22:35,875 --> 00:22:38,833
And no one knows this more
than our guest of honor,
434
00:22:38,833 --> 00:22:40,417
Time Magazine's Man of the Year
435
00:22:40,417 --> 00:22:43,125
for his leadership
in the wake of 9/11,
436
00:22:43,125 --> 00:22:44,833
and my good friend,
437
00:22:44,833 --> 00:22:46,167
Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
438
00:22:50,417 --> 00:22:55,083
Thank you, Asa.
Thank you.
439
00:22:55,083 --> 00:22:57,583
Thank you, thank you.
440
00:22:57,583 --> 00:22:59,625
I'd like to thank those
441
00:22:59,625 --> 00:23:02,125
whose generosity
made this exhibit possible
442
00:23:02,125 --> 00:23:04,208
at the DEA Museum.
443
00:23:04,208 --> 00:23:06,542
Drug trafficking
funds terrorism.
444
00:23:06,542 --> 00:23:10,167
But beyond that,
they are both intended
445
00:23:10,167 --> 00:23:13,458
to break the spirit
of this great country.
446
00:23:13,458 --> 00:23:15,500
But that won't happen.
447
00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:18,500
Not with the hard work
of the DEA.
448
00:23:20,917 --> 00:23:24,042
Deputy Director Meyer, correct?
449
00:23:26,250 --> 00:23:28,875
โ Yes, sir.
I'm sorry. I'm justโโ
450
00:23:28,875 --> 00:23:31,333
it's such an honor to meet you.
451
00:23:31,333 --> 00:23:34,625
What you have done for
this country was unbelievable.
452
00:23:34,625 --> 00:23:36,792
โ So important for all of us.
Thank you.
453
00:23:36,792 --> 00:23:38,583
โ I lost two friends
in the South Tower.
454
00:23:38,583 --> 00:23:40,583
โ I'm so sorry.
455
00:23:40,583 --> 00:23:44,500
I'm so sorry.
โ Thank you.
456
00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:48,042
โ But I have to say
the honor is mine.
457
00:23:48,042 --> 00:23:50,917
You are the highestโranking
woman in the DEA, correct?
458
00:23:50,917 --> 00:23:53,708
โ Yes, sir.
459
00:23:53,708 --> 00:23:55,167
โ I've heard really
great things about you,
460
00:23:55,167 --> 00:23:57,250
and I'd love to chat.
461
00:23:57,250 --> 00:23:58,625
โ I would be honored. Any time.
462
00:23:58,625 --> 00:24:00,417
โ How about right now?
463
00:24:00,417 --> 00:24:01,958
โ Uh, sure.
464
00:24:01,958 --> 00:24:03,375
Great.
465
00:24:04,792 --> 00:24:09,292
You may not know this,
but I'm a cancer survivor.
466
00:24:09,292 --> 00:24:11,625
I did know.
And I am so sorry.
467
00:24:11,625 --> 00:24:13,375
Thank you so much.
468
00:24:13,375 --> 00:24:16,250
I got through it,
and because of my experience,
469
00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:19,042
I truly understand
the pain and distress
470
00:24:19,042 --> 00:24:20,875
that accompany illness.
471
00:24:20,875 --> 00:24:25,208
I just started a new firm,
and I had to really think hard
472
00:24:25,208 --> 00:24:27,333
about what kinds of cases
I would take on.
473
00:24:27,333 --> 00:24:29,042
And after what I went through,
474
00:24:29,042 --> 00:24:31,958
I felt like I was
in a unique position
475
00:24:31,958 --> 00:24:34,375
to represent Purdue Pharma.
476
00:24:34,375 --> 00:24:35,875
I'd love for you
to come to my office
477
00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:38,458
sometime in the next week
and see a presentation
478
00:24:38,458 --> 00:24:41,625
that I put together
on OxyContin.
479
00:24:41,625 --> 00:24:44,833
I think Purdue has
480
00:24:44,833 --> 00:24:46,625
a wonderful drug.
481
00:24:46,625 --> 00:24:49,042
And they're doing
all that they can
482
00:24:49,042 --> 00:24:52,208
to keep it
out of the wrong hands.
483
00:24:59,625 --> 00:25:00,750
โ How much do you think
484
00:25:00,750 --> 00:25:02,833
Giuliani raised
for the DEA Museum?
485
00:25:02,833 --> 00:25:04,625
10 grand? 20?
486
00:25:04,625 --> 00:25:06,042
โ Whatever it is,
it's not good.
487
00:25:06,042 --> 00:25:07,417
Yeah.
โ And it's not good
488
00:25:07,417 --> 00:25:09,458
for your investigation.
This guy is a national hero.
489
00:25:09,458 --> 00:25:11,292
He's friends
with the president.
490
00:25:28,667 --> 00:25:30,917
โ We finally heard
from Jay McCloskey,
491
00:25:30,917 --> 00:25:33,792
the U.S. Attorney in Maine.
โ I know who he is.
492
00:25:37,208 --> 00:25:38,708
โ Dr. Richard,
493
00:25:38,708 --> 00:25:40,875
you've become
very curt with me,
494
00:25:40,875 --> 00:25:43,958
and it's disrespectful.
495
00:25:45,125 --> 00:25:50,292
And frankly,
it's getting upsetting.
496
00:25:53,875 --> 00:25:55,583
โ Jay McCloskey?
497
00:25:58,333 --> 00:26:00,875
โ Yes.
498
00:26:00,875 --> 00:26:03,542
He's going to chair
a law enforcement conference
499
00:26:03,542 --> 00:26:08,000
on how to best deal with
the OxyContin issue.
500
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,500
โ That's good.
501
00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:10,750
โ I agree.
502
00:26:10,750 --> 00:26:13,000
We need to keep this
a law enforcement issue
503
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,542
and not a medical issue.
504
00:26:14,542 --> 00:26:18,042
He'sโโhe's invited us
to attend.
505
00:26:18,042 --> 00:26:20,208
And I think we should send
a small delegation
506
00:26:20,208 --> 00:26:22,917
to make clear we want to help
in any way we can.
507
00:26:22,917 --> 00:26:24,917
โ Absolutely.
508
00:26:24,917 --> 00:26:27,875
We need him
to understand abusers
509
00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:30,792
are compromising lifeโsaving
medications.
510
00:26:30,792 --> 00:26:34,417
We need to keep
hammering the abusers.
511
00:26:41,875 --> 00:26:44,417
โ You know,
512
00:26:44,417 --> 00:26:46,833
I actually think
you shouldn't attend.
513
00:26:49,292 --> 00:26:52,167
โ Why not?
514
00:26:52,167 --> 00:26:55,542
โ You have really passionate
feelings on addiction,
515
00:26:55,542 --> 00:26:58,458
and we need to be as politic
as possible right now,
516
00:26:58,458 --> 00:27:01,208
something that you, at times,
517
00:27:01,208 --> 00:27:04,542
are not very good at.
518
00:27:10,083 --> 00:27:12,083
โ Hm.
519
00:27:26,208 --> 00:27:28,000
Fine.
520
00:27:32,417 --> 00:27:37,333
Just be sure
to hammer the abusers.
521
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:44,167
I haven't shared
very much or spoken
522
00:27:44,167 --> 00:27:46,042
about anything in here, likeโโ
523
00:27:46,042 --> 00:27:49,208
like allโโall you guys did.
524
00:27:51,708 --> 00:27:56,125
So I want toโโ
I want to apologize for that.
525
00:27:56,125 --> 00:27:58,125
I don't know
if all of you know thisโโ
526
00:27:58,125 --> 00:28:00,458
some of you might knowโโ
but I was aโโ
527
00:28:00,458 --> 00:28:02,458
I was a physician
528
00:28:02,458 --> 00:28:06,375
who prescribed OxyContin
529
00:28:06,375 --> 00:28:09,542
to some of my patients.
530
00:28:09,542 --> 00:28:12,500
Some of these people,
I considered my friends.
531
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:19,875
Some of them became addicted.
532
00:28:22,917 --> 00:28:25,917
Some of them died.
533
00:28:29,458 --> 00:28:32,458
Sometimes I think I'm the one
who should have died.
534
00:28:39,333 --> 00:28:42,208
These are just good,
decent people
535
00:28:42,208 --> 00:28:43,250
who thought
they could trust me,
536
00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:44,500
and I feel like
I betrayed them,
537
00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:47,708
and I feel like
I let them down.
538
00:28:53,292 --> 00:28:56,292
I'm just gonna have
to live with that.
539
00:29:01,875 --> 00:29:03,750
I don't even know if I'm ready
540
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:05,625
to go out into the world,
but...
541
00:29:07,583 --> 00:29:10,792
Well, there you go.
542
00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:14,417
Guess I'll give it a shot.
543
00:29:16,792 --> 00:29:19,833
I don't know, I feel, uh,
544
00:29:19,833 --> 00:29:21,333
like I'm still addicted,
you know?
545
00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:24,125
Likeโโlike I still need it.
546
00:29:24,125 --> 00:29:27,125
Well, these feelings
don't magically go away.
547
00:29:27,125 --> 00:29:29,708
It's gonna feel
overwhelming at times.
548
00:29:29,708 --> 00:29:32,875
But it is important
to live one day at a time.
549
00:29:32,875 --> 00:29:33,875
You know?
โ Yeah.
550
00:29:33,875 --> 00:29:37,083
โ Wake up each morning,
551
00:29:37,083 --> 00:29:39,292
recommit to the process.
552
00:29:39,292 --> 00:29:41,708
โ Okay. Well...
553
00:29:42,958 --> 00:29:44,792
โ You have someone
picking you up?
554
00:29:44,792 --> 00:29:45,917
โ Yeah.
โ Good.
555
00:29:45,917 --> 00:29:48,500
โ Yeah, I'll just wait here.
I do.
556
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:50,625
โ Hey.
557
00:29:50,625 --> 00:29:51,792
We're here if you need us.
558
00:29:51,792 --> 00:29:52,833
โ Okay, thank you.
559
00:29:52,833 --> 00:29:54,417
โ All right.
560
00:30:43,208 --> 00:30:47,333
Dear Lord, thank you
for this glorious meal.
561
00:30:47,333 --> 00:30:52,542
For my health,
myโโmy recovery.
562
00:30:52,542 --> 00:30:55,333
But most of all,
563
00:30:55,333 --> 00:30:59,958
I want to thank you
for my wonderful parents,
564
00:30:59,958 --> 00:31:04,542
who have stuck with me through
the most horrible of times.
565
00:31:04,542 --> 00:31:08,125
I'm so lucky to have them.
566
00:31:08,125 --> 00:31:11,500
And to have you in my life,
dear Lord.
567
00:31:14,875 --> 00:31:17,208
I know I wouldn't make it
without you all here
568
00:31:17,208 --> 00:31:21,542
to protect me.
569
00:31:21,542 --> 00:31:23,042
Amen.
570
00:31:23,042 --> 00:31:26,375
โ Amen.
โ Amen.
571
00:31:26,375 --> 00:31:29,125
Bets, if you come away
from this
572
00:31:29,125 --> 00:31:31,792
with a greater love
of the Lord,
573
00:31:31,792 --> 00:31:34,333
I promise you
it'll be worth it.
574
00:31:36,167 --> 00:31:38,667
โ I think so too.
575
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:05,625
Dr. Finnix?
576
00:32:07,792 --> 00:32:09,417
Dr. Finnix.
577
00:32:12,333 --> 00:32:14,417
Dr. Finnix!
578
00:32:16,875 --> 00:32:20,500
Dr. Finnix?
579
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:22,958
โ One second.
580
00:32:24,792 --> 00:32:26,917
Hey.
581
00:32:26,917 --> 00:32:29,167
Hey, how you doing?
582
00:32:29,167 --> 00:32:31,500
โ Are you joking?
You called me last night
583
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:33,083
and said you were gonna
kill yourself.
584
00:32:35,542 --> 00:32:38,250
โ I did?
585
00:32:38,250 --> 00:32:41,958
No, that'sโโ
586
00:32:41,958 --> 00:32:44,750
I wasn't serious.
587
00:32:46,875 --> 00:32:49,375
โ Are you gonna invite me in?
588
00:32:49,375 --> 00:32:51,917
Yeah, please, come in.
589
00:32:51,917 --> 00:32:55,375
โ I was on the night shift,
so I couldn't leave.
590
00:32:55,375 --> 00:32:57,292
I was worried sick about you.
591
00:33:00,375 --> 00:33:02,833
โ Sit. Come on, sit down.
592
00:33:02,833 --> 00:33:06,208
How you doing? How you doing?
593
00:33:06,208 --> 00:33:07,833
You want some coffee
or something?
594
00:33:07,833 --> 00:33:09,917
โ No. Thank you.
595
00:33:09,917 --> 00:33:12,500
โ You want some juice?
596
00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:15,000
โ You're using again,
aren't you?
597
00:33:18,208 --> 00:33:19,792
โ Yeah.
598
00:33:27,833 --> 00:33:30,667
You know, rehab didn't work.
599
00:33:30,667 --> 00:33:32,250
I mean, you know,
600
00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:34,375
people over there
just keeps coming in and out,
601
00:33:34,375 --> 00:33:35,625
going back and forth.
602
00:33:35,625 --> 00:33:38,917
They come in, they go out,
they come in.
603
00:33:38,917 --> 00:33:42,208
โ A doctor at the hospital
told me the same thing.
604
00:33:42,208 --> 00:33:44,875
He said those places
work better for alcohol.
605
00:33:44,875 --> 00:33:49,375
That recovery is a lot harder
for opiates.
606
00:33:49,375 --> 00:33:52,583
โ It's damn near impossible.
607
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:57,792
โ Have you thought
about methadone?
608
00:33:57,792 --> 00:33:59,708
He said it might work.
609
00:33:59,708 --> 00:34:01,917
โ Just get addicted, like,
trade one for the other one,
610
00:34:01,917 --> 00:34:05,542
'cause those guysโโ
those Vietnam guysโโ
611
00:34:07,667 --> 00:34:09,208
the vets I used to work with,
612
00:34:09,208 --> 00:34:11,250
they just called it
liquid handcuffs,
613
00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:14,458
'cause you justโโ
you know, justโโsame thing.
614
00:34:14,458 --> 00:34:16,792
Well, you gotta try something.
615
00:34:16,792 --> 00:34:18,375
โ Yeah.
616
00:34:19,708 --> 00:34:23,583
โ I asked around, and there's
a good clinic in Knoxville.
617
00:34:23,583 --> 00:34:25,958
It's worth a shot, Dr. Finnix.
618
00:34:28,167 --> 00:34:30,750
โ I'm not a doctor anymore.
619
00:34:30,750 --> 00:34:32,792
โ I don't care what you are.
620
00:34:32,792 --> 00:34:36,208
I just don't want you dead.
621
00:34:36,208 --> 00:34:38,750
Can't you at least try it?
622
00:34:51,125 --> 00:34:54,208
I'm sorry, we have
to postpone St. Moritz.
623
00:34:54,208 --> 00:34:57,250
โ But the kids are really
looking forward to it.
624
00:34:57,250 --> 00:35:00,042
I mean, David won't shut up
about those new skis.
625
00:35:00,042 --> 00:35:01,708
It'sโโit's only two weekdays.
626
00:35:01,708 --> 00:35:03,208
โ It's a very serious
situation.
627
00:35:03,208 --> 00:35:04,458
A U.S. Attorney in Maine
628
00:35:04,458 --> 00:35:06,208
is causing
some real problems for us.
629
00:35:08,667 --> 00:35:10,417
โ What are you so afraid of?
630
00:35:10,417 --> 00:35:11,750
You're president.
631
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:16,542
The drug is making
a billion a year.
632
00:35:16,542 --> 00:35:18,500
Why can't you just enjoy it?
633
00:35:22,375 --> 00:35:24,833
โ Maybe I'm not capable of joy.
634
00:35:32,208 --> 00:35:34,792
โ Then the kids and I
will go without you.
635
00:35:37,250 --> 00:35:38,833
โ Okay.
636
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:55,833
Well, thanks
for meeting with us.
637
00:35:55,833 --> 00:35:58,042
I know the FDA must be
pretty overwhelmed
638
00:35:58,042 --> 00:36:01,125
with approvals and such.
639
00:36:01,125 --> 00:36:04,000
โ We are.
How can I help you?
640
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,583
โ We want to know
how the approval process works
641
00:36:07,583 --> 00:36:09,500
for scientific charts.
642
00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:14,917
โ Well, any data
that a company wants to use
643
00:36:14,917 --> 00:36:17,625
in marketing and promotions
644
00:36:17,625 --> 00:36:22,458
has to be approved by us,
to ensure accuracy.
645
00:36:22,458 --> 00:36:27,125
โ So if Purdue Pharma used
specific language in charts,
646
00:36:27,125 --> 00:36:29,875
then the FDA approved it?
647
00:36:29,875 --> 00:36:32,167
โ That's correct.
648
00:36:32,167 --> 00:36:34,208
โ We'd like to ask you
649
00:36:34,208 --> 00:36:36,458
about this blood chart
that sales reps at Purdue
650
00:36:36,458 --> 00:36:38,667
showed doctors to demonstrate
that the drug
651
00:36:38,667 --> 00:36:42,000
didn't have the same peaks
and valleys as other opiates.
652
00:36:48,125 --> 00:36:49,708
Would you guys give us
the room for a minute?
653
00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:52,208
- Sure.
- Thank you.
654
00:37:01,375 --> 00:37:04,375
Where did you get this?
โ In discovery, at Purdue.
655
00:37:05,958 --> 00:37:08,958
โ And you're sure that
656
00:37:08,958 --> 00:37:12,333
this is a chart that Purdue
reps actually showed doctors?
657
00:37:12,333 --> 00:37:13,917
โ Mmโhmm. A version of it.
658
00:37:13,917 --> 00:37:15,333
There are others
that are similar.
659
00:37:15,333 --> 00:37:19,583
โ It was used in seminars
and for promotional purposes.
660
00:37:19,583 --> 00:37:21,125
โ God damn it.
661
00:37:23,542 --> 00:37:26,667
โ Is that a problem?
โ Yes, that's a problem.
662
00:37:26,667 --> 00:37:28,500
That's a big problem.
663
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:29,875
This chart has been manipulated
664
00:37:29,875 --> 00:37:31,625
to give
a false impression of the data.
665
00:37:31,625 --> 00:37:35,708
The scale in this column
has been deceptively numbered.
666
00:37:35,708 --> 00:37:37,625
Their drug actually spikes
like any opioid,
667
00:37:37,625 --> 00:37:40,208
not this bullshit plateau
that the graph claims.
668
00:37:40,208 --> 00:37:42,375
โ Why'd the FDA approve it?
669
00:37:42,375 --> 00:37:44,125
โ We didn't.
670
00:37:44,125 --> 00:37:45,708
We specifically told Purdue
671
00:37:45,708 --> 00:37:47,250
they could not
make these claims.
672
00:37:47,250 --> 00:37:49,792
I can give you the letter
we sent them years ago.
673
00:37:49,792 --> 00:37:52,583
And we rejected
the use of the term
674
00:37:52,583 --> 00:37:54,083
"fewer peaks and valleys,"
675
00:37:54,083 --> 00:37:56,208
as that is clearly
not accurate.
676
00:37:56,208 --> 00:37:59,000
โ Are you aware that sales reps
at Purdue used this term
677
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,750
as a major marketing tool?
678
00:38:02,750 --> 00:38:05,750
โ Not until this conversation.
679
00:38:07,625 --> 00:38:09,667
Those fucking assholes
do this all the time!
680
00:38:09,667 --> 00:38:11,250
They just do whatever
the hell they want.
681
00:38:11,250 --> 00:38:15,417
And this division has been
pushing back on them for years.
682
00:38:15,417 --> 00:38:17,208
โ And would you be willing
to testify to this
683
00:38:17,208 --> 00:38:20,792
before a grand jury?
684
00:38:20,792 --> 00:38:23,167
โ Oh, gladly.
685
00:38:23,167 --> 00:38:24,500
U.S. Attorney McCloskey,
686
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:27,208
esteemed participants,
thank you for including us
687
00:38:27,208 --> 00:38:30,167
in this important conversation
and for bringing this
688
00:38:30,167 --> 00:38:32,542
concerning topic
to our attention.
689
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:36,208
โ This is more than
just a concerning topic.
690
00:38:36,208 --> 00:38:37,708
It's a crisis in our state
691
00:38:37,708 --> 00:38:39,375
that stems
directly from your drug.
692
00:38:39,375 --> 00:38:42,042
I was reluctant
to include representatives
693
00:38:42,042 --> 00:38:44,417
from Purdue here today,
but we need all hands on deck,
694
00:38:44,417 --> 00:38:46,292
as this problem
continues to escalate.
695
00:38:46,292 --> 00:38:47,958
โ And we want to do
what's right,
696
00:38:47,958 --> 00:38:49,458
so we've come up
with some solutions
697
00:38:49,458 --> 00:38:52,167
we believe
will be very effective.
698
00:38:52,167 --> 00:38:53,917
โ Like what?
699
00:38:53,917 --> 00:38:55,375
โ Doctor?
700
00:38:55,375 --> 00:38:56,875
Yes, at Purdue Pharma,
701
00:38:56,875 --> 00:38:59,958
we'll immediately commit to
hiring a team of expert
702
00:38:59,958 --> 00:39:02,458
independent consultants
to develop a strategy
703
00:39:02,458 --> 00:39:04,750
to educate physicians
on the ways to identify
704
00:39:04,750 --> 00:39:06,333
addicts and abusers.
705
00:39:06,333 --> 00:39:09,125
โ This is Rick Mountcastle
calling for Jay McCloskey.
706
00:39:09,125 --> 00:39:12,917
I have tried several times,
and as a former U.S. Attorney,
707
00:39:12,917 --> 00:39:15,375
I'd expect that
he'd at least call me back.
708
00:39:15,375 --> 00:39:16,875
Mr. McCloskey apologizes.
709
00:39:16,875 --> 00:39:18,333
He's been very busy.
710
00:39:18,333 --> 00:39:20,333
He'll return your call
as soon as possible.
711
00:39:20,333 --> 00:39:23,000
โ Thank you so much.
712
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,792
โ What will these experts
accomplish?
713
00:39:24,792 --> 00:39:26,208
โ Phase one of their strategy
714
00:39:26,208 --> 00:39:27,917
will be to have
our sales team members
715
00:39:27,917 --> 00:39:29,500
conclude all of
their doctor's visits
716
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:31,083
with a clear reminder:
717
00:39:31,083 --> 00:39:34,125
opioidโbased painkillers
are common targets
718
00:39:34,125 --> 00:39:36,917
for both drug abusers
and drug addicts.
719
00:39:36,917 --> 00:39:39,042
โ Mm.
720
00:39:39,042 --> 00:39:41,292
โ Maybe he's having
personal problems.
721
00:39:41,292 --> 00:39:42,750
โ Mm.
722
00:39:42,750 --> 00:39:44,542
Or maybe he's an asshole.
723
00:39:44,542 --> 00:39:46,042
โ Easy on the language.
724
00:39:46,042 --> 00:39:48,083
โ Hey, guys.
725
00:39:48,083 --> 00:39:50,375
You don't need
to call him anymore.
726
00:39:50,375 --> 00:39:52,250
I literally just found out
why McCloskey's
727
00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:54,250
โ not returning your calls.
Why's that?
728
00:39:54,250 --> 00:39:55,833
Mr. McCloskey,
729
00:39:55,833 --> 00:39:57,542
this is
a law enforcement issue.
730
00:39:57,542 --> 00:40:01,333
And the last thing Purdue wants
is for addicts and abusers
731
00:40:01,333 --> 00:40:03,292
to cause millions
of pain patients
732
00:40:03,292 --> 00:40:05,917
to lose access
to the only thing
733
00:40:05,917 --> 00:40:07,750
that provides them
with pain relief.
734
00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:09,208
โ After he went
into private practice,
735
00:40:09,208 --> 00:40:11,250
take a wild guess
who he took on as a client.
736
00:40:11,250 --> 00:40:13,083
โ No.
Yep.
737
00:40:13,083 --> 00:40:16,292
The former U.S. Attorney is
now representing Purdue Pharma.
738
00:40:17,875 --> 00:40:19,667
โ I'll take it
under consideration.
739
00:40:19,667 --> 00:40:21,208
โ They are buying off
everybody
740
00:40:21,208 --> 00:40:24,125
who's supposed to be
regulating them.
741
00:40:28,750 --> 00:40:32,708
โ You know, Randy,
I owe you an apology.
742
00:40:32,708 --> 00:40:34,875
For what?
743
00:40:34,875 --> 00:40:37,875
โ Jay McCloskey
really is an asshole.
744
00:40:41,208 --> 00:40:42,625
41โyearโold male.
745
00:40:42,625 --> 00:40:45,458
Died in his sleep.
No respiratory arrest.
746
00:40:45,458 --> 00:40:49,083
No suicide note or
history of suicidal ideation.
747
00:40:49,083 --> 00:40:51,750
So this one is
a confirmed OxyContin death.
748
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:54,750
โ It is. But to be honest,
749
00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:57,750
we're running into
some serious issues.
750
00:41:00,375 --> 00:41:02,417
We threw out about
a third of the reports
751
00:41:02,417 --> 00:41:04,875
right off the bat, because
they're missing key info
752
00:41:04,875 --> 00:41:06,792
or are actually
unrelated deaths,
753
00:41:06,792 --> 00:41:08,750
like gunshot wounds or cancer.
754
00:41:08,750 --> 00:41:10,375
โ Right, we expected that.
755
00:41:10,375 --> 00:41:11,917
โ Right.
756
00:41:11,917 --> 00:41:14,833
But we didn't expect
the biggest hurdle.
757
00:41:14,833 --> 00:41:17,333
Nearly all the reports
show multiple drugs
758
00:41:17,333 --> 00:41:18,417
in the deceased's system,
759
00:41:18,417 --> 00:41:20,042
which we excluded
from the study,
760
00:41:20,042 --> 00:41:23,708
since we're trying to pin down
deaths from Oxy as prescribed.
761
00:41:23,708 --> 00:41:25,042
โ So where does that leave us?
762
00:41:25,042 --> 00:41:27,333
What number are we at?
763
00:41:27,333 --> 00:41:29,417
โ It's not
what you're looking for.
764
00:41:30,875 --> 00:41:32,167
So far, we've only found
765
00:41:32,167 --> 00:41:34,708
a dozen overdoses
with just oxycodone.
766
00:41:38,875 --> 00:41:40,083
โ Just a dozen.
767
00:41:40,083 --> 00:41:43,125
โ At this point,
we were expecting about 150.
768
00:41:43,125 --> 00:41:47,125
I'm happy to keep going,
but it's not promising.
769
00:41:47,125 --> 00:41:48,708
We could do this for months
770
00:41:48,708 --> 00:41:50,500
and barely triple
these numbers.
771
00:41:54,167 --> 00:41:56,958
โ No, no, that's fine.
772
00:41:56,958 --> 00:41:59,958
We can stop.
773
00:42:01,667 --> 00:42:04,667
Thank you
for all the hard work.
774
00:42:42,083 --> 00:42:44,042
Honey.
775
00:42:44,042 --> 00:42:46,500
I TiVoed 24.
Should we watch it?
776
00:42:50,625 --> 00:42:52,125
Bridget.
777
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,208
โ Oh, um, yeah, sure.
778
00:42:56,208 --> 00:42:59,375
You okay?
779
00:42:59,375 --> 00:43:01,583
โ You don't want
to hear about it.
780
00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:06,417
โ Honey, I do.
781
00:43:11,167 --> 00:43:14,042
Hey, talk to me.
782
00:43:17,583 --> 00:43:19,583
Honey.
783
00:43:21,625 --> 00:43:25,375
โ I met a kid a few years ago,
784
00:43:25,375 --> 00:43:26,833
in Kentucky.
785
00:43:26,833 --> 00:43:29,208
โ Uhโhuh.
786
00:43:29,208 --> 00:43:32,292
โ And interviewing him
787
00:43:32,292 --> 00:43:34,208
was the moment I realized
788
00:43:34,208 --> 00:43:37,083
that there was something
unique about the drug.
789
00:43:41,542 --> 00:43:45,375
He just died from an overdose.
790
00:43:54,208 --> 00:43:58,042
I could have done more.
791
00:43:58,042 --> 00:43:59,542
I could have worked harder...
792
00:43:59,542 --> 00:44:01,583
Come on, Bridget.
โ And smarter.
793
00:44:01,583 --> 00:44:04,708
This is not your fault.
794
00:44:04,708 --> 00:44:08,083
โ And I could have saved him.
795
00:44:08,083 --> 00:44:10,458
โ You did not make this drug.
796
00:44:10,458 --> 00:44:11,708
You did not sell this drug.
797
00:44:11,708 --> 00:44:13,417
โ I could have worked harder.
โ Honey.
798
00:44:13,417 --> 00:44:16,417
โ And I could have done more.
โ Honey.
799
00:44:18,875 --> 00:44:20,833
This is not on you.
800
00:44:26,875 --> 00:44:29,875
โ This is gonna sound strange.
801
00:44:33,625 --> 00:44:38,667
But I keep having this fantasy
802
00:44:38,667 --> 00:44:41,083
that I have Richard Sackler
803
00:44:41,083 --> 00:44:43,583
handcuffed to a chair.
804
00:44:48,125 --> 00:44:50,667
And I force him to watch
a video of all of the victims
805
00:44:50,667 --> 00:44:53,167
who have died from OxyContin.
806
00:44:57,500 --> 00:45:01,208
Make him face
all of his victims.
807
00:45:03,083 --> 00:45:06,167
All the lives
cut short for profit.
808
00:45:09,875 --> 00:45:13,875
All the tragedy
that he brought to families.
809
00:45:17,167 --> 00:45:19,792
All the communities destroyed
810
00:45:19,792 --> 00:45:22,125
for his family's greed.
811
00:45:25,417 --> 00:45:28,625
I just want him to see it all
with his own two eyes
812
00:45:28,625 --> 00:45:32,167
exactly what it is
that he has done.
813
00:45:36,042 --> 00:45:39,042
โ But do you think
he'd even care?
814
00:45:43,833 --> 00:45:46,667
โ No, he wouldn't, would he?
815
00:45:46,667 --> 00:45:48,750
Anyone who would do this
in the first place
816
00:45:48,750 --> 00:45:51,667
probably wouldn't at all.
817
00:45:51,667 --> 00:45:54,167
Wouldn't care.
818
00:46:03,542 --> 00:46:05,833
โ Hello?
819
00:46:05,833 --> 00:46:08,333
โ Hi, Vivian.
820
00:46:08,333 --> 00:46:10,917
It's Richard.
821
00:46:10,917 --> 00:46:12,625
โ Hey, babe, I'll take this
in the other room.
822
00:46:12,625 --> 00:46:14,208
It's a friend.
823
00:46:20,375 --> 00:46:21,875
Hi, Richard.
824
00:46:23,125 --> 00:46:24,917
It's been a long time.
825
00:46:24,917 --> 00:46:27,583
At least 20 years?
826
00:46:27,583 --> 00:46:30,042
โ Too long.
827
00:46:30,042 --> 00:46:32,333
How's your family?
828
00:46:32,333 --> 00:46:33,750
โ They're good.
829
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:35,625
Yours?
830
00:46:36,542 --> 00:46:39,875
โ The company
is doing very well.
831
00:46:39,875 --> 00:46:42,125
โ I heard. Congratulations.
832
00:46:42,125 --> 00:46:45,500
โ Thank you.
833
00:46:48,583 --> 00:46:50,167
โ And your wife.
834
00:46:50,167 --> 00:46:53,208
How's she doing?
835
00:46:53,208 --> 00:46:56,000
โ She's good.
836
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,042
โ Well, I'm sure
your parents are pleased.
837
00:46:59,042 --> 00:47:01,875
I know they were
never fond of me.
838
00:47:04,375 --> 00:47:09,792
โ I called to see if maybe
839
00:47:09,792 --> 00:47:12,833
we could get lunch sometime.
840
00:47:14,958 --> 00:47:16,958
โ Um...
841
00:47:20,833 --> 00:47:24,792
No, I don'tโโ
โ Yes, of course.
842
00:47:24,792 --> 00:47:26,917
Of course.
843
00:47:26,917 --> 00:47:29,667
Well, IโโI have to go.
844
00:47:29,667 --> 00:47:31,125
โ Are you sure?
We can keep talkingโโ
845
00:47:31,125 --> 00:47:33,250
โ Take care of yourself.
โ Okayโโ
846
00:47:53,375 --> 00:47:56,375
โ You okay, sir?
847
00:48:07,958 --> 00:48:09,750
โ Tell me about Maine.
848
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:13,667
โ Um, it went very well.
849
00:48:13,667 --> 00:48:15,917
I think we were able
to make clear to McCloskey
850
00:48:15,917 --> 00:48:17,375
this is
a law enforcement issue,
851
00:48:17,375 --> 00:48:18,875
and I didn't get the sense
852
00:48:18,875 --> 00:48:23,083
he's going to push
to regulate the medication.
853
00:48:25,083 --> 00:48:29,792
โ He said he wants to keep
in open communication with us.
854
00:48:29,792 --> 00:48:32,292
โ I think we definitely should.
855
00:48:32,292 --> 00:48:34,667
โ Um, even so,
856
00:48:34,667 --> 00:48:38,625
with the U.S. Attorney
sniffing around,
857
00:48:38,625 --> 00:48:41,792
we might need to be
extra careful with
858
00:48:41,792 --> 00:48:43,792
what people
are putting in writing.
859
00:48:48,083 --> 00:48:50,958
We've begun the process
of creating an email system
860
00:48:50,958 --> 00:48:55,125
in which specified emails
instantly delete
861
00:48:55,125 --> 00:48:57,292
as soon as they've been read.
862
00:49:04,875 --> 00:49:08,000
โ That's an excellent idea.
863
00:49:55,208 --> 00:49:59,583
Dear Lord,
help me defeat the Devil.
864
00:49:59,583 --> 00:50:02,875
Give me the strength
to shun his evil ways.
865
00:50:05,042 --> 00:50:09,042
I need You to help me
with temptation, dear Lord.
866
00:50:12,750 --> 00:50:14,875
Protect me from harm.
867
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,000
Keep me on the path
of the righteous.
868
00:50:24,042 --> 00:50:29,542
Guide me with Your wisdom
and Your love.
869
00:50:29,542 --> 00:50:32,458
I promise...
870
00:50:32,458 --> 00:50:37,208
I promise I will worship You
for all of eternity.
871
00:50:37,208 --> 00:50:39,500
Little Bets.
872
00:50:39,500 --> 00:50:40,833
Hey, girl.
873
00:50:40,833 --> 00:50:44,000
โ Hey, Walt.
โ How you doing?
874
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,750
โ Uh, listen.
875
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:50,208
You got any Oxy?
โ Yeah, no, no.
876
00:50:50,208 --> 00:50:51,542
I ain't had no Oxy in months.
877
00:50:51,542 --> 00:50:53,667
But, um,
I got something better.
878
00:50:53,667 --> 00:50:54,667
Get out of here.
Don't touch me!
879
00:50:54,667 --> 00:50:57,708
Get your hands off me!
880
00:50:57,708 --> 00:50:59,875
I'm sorry about that.
You all right?
881
00:50:59,875 --> 00:51:02,042
โ I'm in real bad shape.
โ Yeah.
882
00:51:02,042 --> 00:51:05,292
Well, I ain't got no OCs,
but I got some H.
883
00:51:05,292 --> 00:51:06,958
It's way cheaper,
884
00:51:06,958 --> 00:51:09,958
โ and it's way better.
โ Uh...
885
00:51:11,625 --> 00:51:12,792
โ There ain't nothing
to be scared about.
886
00:51:12,792 --> 00:51:14,667
It's me.
887
00:51:14,667 --> 00:51:16,667
You know?
888
00:51:20,542 --> 00:51:22,542
Want to try it?
889
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:27,042
โ Okay.
890
00:51:27,042 --> 00:51:28,750
โ Huh? Yeah, well, come on in.
891
00:51:28,750 --> 00:51:30,042
โ All right.
โ I'm sorry it's a mess.
892
00:51:30,042 --> 00:51:32,375
Come on. Yeah, come on in here.
893
00:51:32,375 --> 00:51:33,500
Make yourself comfortable.
894
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:36,000
โ Okay, okay.
โ Good.
895
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,000
Yeah, warm up.
896
00:51:40,792 --> 00:51:42,583
Hey, you're gonna like it,
I promise.
897
00:51:42,583 --> 00:51:44,833
Take your jacket off.
898
00:52:10,958 --> 00:52:13,958
Sign in, please.
899
00:52:31,833 --> 00:52:33,667
Samuel.
900
00:52:41,875 --> 00:52:43,583
Other side, please.
901
00:52:50,750 --> 00:52:52,375
โ Hello, Samuel.
Hi.
902
00:52:52,375 --> 00:52:54,708
โ The doctor's gonna
start you on 35 mg.
903
00:53:26,625 --> 00:53:29,625
You'll get used to it.
904
00:53:33,958 --> 00:53:36,958
Now drink the water.
905
00:53:45,292 --> 00:53:47,167
Okay, have a seat.
906
00:53:47,167 --> 00:53:48,542
We need you to hang out
for an hour,
907
00:53:48,542 --> 00:53:51,208
just to make sure you don't
have a negative reaction.
908
00:53:51,208 --> 00:53:53,708
And after that,
I will see you here every day,
909
00:53:53,708 --> 00:53:56,542
bright and early,
seven days a week.
910
00:53:56,542 --> 00:53:58,083
โ Okay.
911
00:53:58,083 --> 00:54:01,500
โ Hey. Hard part's over.
912
00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:03,875
You're on the road
to recovery now.
913
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:06,542
โ Yeah.
914
00:55:16,375 --> 00:55:18,000
- Hello?
- Hey.
915
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,542
Hey, sorry to, uh,
bother you so late.
916
00:55:20,542 --> 00:55:23,917
โ No, no, I'm just catching up
on my nonโOxy work.
917
00:55:23,917 --> 00:55:25,458
โ Um, sorry about that.
918
00:55:25,458 --> 00:55:27,875
Don't be. What's up?
919
00:55:27,875 --> 00:55:32,542
โ Um, I know a lot of other
drugs are commonly prescribed
920
00:55:32,542 --> 00:55:36,708
along with OxyContin,
like Xanax and antidepressants.
921
00:55:36,708 --> 00:55:39,042
Would it be possible
to separate out
922
00:55:39,042 --> 00:55:41,792
other nonโlethal
prescription drugs
923
00:55:41,792 --> 00:55:44,125
with Oxy in their systems?
924
00:55:44,125 --> 00:55:47,083
โ Because those
drug combinations most likely
925
00:55:47,083 --> 00:55:49,667
would have been taken
as approved by the FDA.
926
00:55:49,667 --> 00:55:53,583
โ Exactly, if we separate out
nonโlethal combos,
927
00:55:53,583 --> 00:55:55,875
then we end up
with a more accurate number
928
00:55:55,875 --> 00:55:58,542
of Oxyโrelated
overdoses, right?
929
00:55:58,542 --> 00:56:00,042
Can you make that distinction?
930
00:56:00,042 --> 00:56:01,417
โ Absolutely.
931
00:56:03,208 --> 00:56:05,333
Okay, we're likely missing
quite a few deaths
932
00:56:05,333 --> 00:56:06,833
that are just
too difficult to uncover.
933
00:56:06,833 --> 00:56:09,750
But even so, with the changes
to our methodology,
934
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:13,250
the results
are frankly shocking.
935
00:56:19,042 --> 00:56:20,958
When combined with
nonโlethal medications,
936
00:56:20,958 --> 00:56:23,333
we found far more deaths
linked to OxyContin
937
00:56:23,333 --> 00:56:25,458
than had previously
been estimated.
938
00:56:25,458 --> 00:56:28,458
464.
939
00:56:30,375 --> 00:56:31,917
โ 464.
940
00:56:31,917 --> 00:56:33,542
โ Yeah, but that's
not the biggest thing.
941
00:56:33,542 --> 00:56:35,792
Only 12 of those
are the result of
942
00:56:35,792 --> 00:56:38,667
chewing, snorting,
or injecting,
943
00:56:38,667 --> 00:56:40,875
which means 98% of those deaths
944
00:56:40,875 --> 00:56:44,333
were the result of people
taking the pills orally,
945
00:56:44,333 --> 00:56:45,750
as directed.
946
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:47,958
Our findings suggest
it's most probably
947
00:56:47,958 --> 00:56:50,875
not the abuser who's dying
from OxyContin consumption.
948
00:56:50,875 --> 00:56:52,792
โ It's pain patients,
949
00:56:52,792 --> 00:56:55,875
who are taking the drug
exactly as prescribed.
950
00:56:55,875 --> 00:56:58,000
โ Correct.
951
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,708
They're the ones
dying from overdoses,
952
00:56:59,708 --> 00:57:01,292
based on these autopsies.
953
00:57:01,292 --> 00:57:03,125
My latest theory,
from all this new data,
954
00:57:03,125 --> 00:57:04,833
is that actual abusers
955
00:57:04,833 --> 00:57:07,750
are switching to cheaper drugs
like heroin.
956
00:57:09,542 --> 00:57:11,375
โ This is exactly
what you needed to prove
957
00:57:11,375 --> 00:57:13,583
to the FDA, isn't it?
958
00:57:21,917 --> 00:57:23,917
โ Could you excuse me
for a moment?
959
00:57:44,917 --> 00:57:47,125
I got you.
960
00:57:47,125 --> 00:57:50,542
I got you. I fucking got you.
I got you.
961
00:57:52,875 --> 00:57:54,042
I fucking got you.
962
00:57:54,042 --> 00:57:56,125
I fucking got you,
lying motherfuckers!
69993
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