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you did an interview after the second
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album came out and you made some
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comments about Jews you said that Jews
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were responsible for the majority of the
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wickedness in the world cuz it was that
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Parker there all of us know that was
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under there no that was a lot longer
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than it was a conversation we were
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having so yeah okay
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yeah I could problem so put it ok so put
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it into context for me um in what
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context like well obviously we were
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having yeah I don't you have time for
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that sure I can talk about it go for it
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huh
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go for it if you are the one of the main
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integral parts of Public Enemy that
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actually did the interviews and there
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was a research department in the Nation
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of Islam that was distributing a manual
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well really a manuscript on a book that
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later came out called the seeker
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relationship between Blacks and Jews and
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at that time there was discussions going
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on in the group along with people that
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was associated with the group and we was
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running down who owns the music industry
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and who owns the production companies
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and this that and the other so when it
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when the interviewer black man acts a
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certain series of questions I used to
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travel with suitcases full of books hell
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I was a minister of information so I
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came with 2030 books and we was just
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kind of going over some of the
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information in the books I think I had
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Henry Ford's book the International Jew
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the octopus I can't remember all the
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books that I happen to have that
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discussion about who controls the
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entertainment industry so out of that
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conversation which was hour and 10
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minutes long someone pulled that out and
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put it in the forefront you're the same
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same right so it's Soviet if you're
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talking about world wars
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then who was responsible if you talk
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about who financed Hitler who was
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responsible if you're talking about the
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Civil War and you're talking about black
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people being brought over from Africa to
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America in the holes of ships who owned
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the insurance companies who
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the ships and that's the kind of
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discussion we were having okay you want
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to say I'm saying yeah David Mills made
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it seem like it was a Jewish
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conversation so yeah but but it was a
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bigger story involved in it oh it's a
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lot it was a lot lodging in here but
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that part comes out and there's an
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instant backlash over it what what
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started to happen within the group when
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that backlash started I think it was it
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was discussions about it but we looked
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at it like okay
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how two year run is up we shook [ __ ] up
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what the [ __ ] and it wasn't like people
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thought it was because we didn't really
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have interaction like that would white
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people so it didn't mean it didn't mean
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anything it was like okay it wasn't
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until that information was sent to the
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Village Voice in New York then it
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exploded and then now those Jewish
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groups ADL and other people put pressure
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on Def Jam to figure out how you're
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gonna handle public enemy then Public
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Enemy had to figure how do you handle
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Grif and I'm like what is it to handle
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now two year reign is up see you and it
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wasn't nothing to even talk about
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but since Chuck flipped it and I got
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thrown under the bus now I got to go for
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myself fifty soldiers that I thought I
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had didn't have him anymore
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do you ought to say I'm saying what do
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you mean you talk about Professor
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Griffin either the s1w is the same dude
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that was training people in martial arts
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and going to prisons and jails and
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leaving money on the books the hardcore
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killers getting out of jail like yeah or
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whatever you need me to do Griff yeah I
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had those kind of dudes at my waiting on
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my word what do you do with that kind of
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power pseudo power okay and now you got
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the booze and the group throwing you
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under the bus
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yeah if I was kind of reckless with my
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mouth at that time yeah there was a bit
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there too been some some funerals
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happening bro
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for real but no I pulled back and as I
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was pulling back thinking that the group
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was going to be over anyway after two
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years I find out that I was the one
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getting kicked out of the group now I'd
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heard that Chuck D didn't want you out
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of the group is that true no you didn't
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yeah that's true we didn't so the people
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wanted you out of it was the mother it
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was the other [ __ ] flunkies the
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hain't shopkins and the bill Stephanies
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and punk-ass Russell Simmons and the
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rest of them and by the way if you're
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taking taking opposition to what I'm
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saying call me my number six seven eight
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five five seven two nine one nine no
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mother [ __ ] can get it for real
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how did Leo Cohen who's you know who was
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Jewish himself how did he react to it
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yo Bill Adler Lyor Cohen Ron Scola
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Moskowitz
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Cara Lewis all the Jews that I was
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working with at that time we had mature
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adult discussions it wasn't this
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childish [ __ ] like give me my ball I'm
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going home nobody's gonna play kickball
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because the information that I gave in
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the interview was it from Griff it was
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from Jewish scholars I didn't write it
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so it's like wow okay so if Chuck T
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wanted you in the group and Chuck D was
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the leader of the group
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why weren't you still in the group I'm
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gonna be honest with you I'm gonna take
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the high road and humble myself
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that's something shucks gotta search his
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heart about you talk about a man that I
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came up with since four years old that
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brother know my heart like these two
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gentlemen I'm sitting in front of I
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ain't no [ __ ] ruthless violent dude
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like that I came in this [ __ ]
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telling jokes you ought to say I'm
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saying that's my natural character when
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I read it when I read the contract I
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clicked on my professor Griff [ __ ] like
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I'm supposed to
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you ought to say I'm saying yeah and
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then now I'm doing an interview being
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very transparent so but he has to search
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is hot
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I'm saying if those people on the other
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side of Public Enemy not the ones truly
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out in the street doing the work saving
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lives but on the other side of Public
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Enemy didn't have the same idea of the
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ultimate mission and goal of Public
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Enemy didn't share the vision then
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that's the discussion we needed to have
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but to throw me under the bus
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thinking that was gonna be alright no
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that wasn't gonna be all [ __ ] right
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hell nah everyone from [ __ ] Spike Lee
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to the rest of no that [ __ ] ain't gonna
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be all right what was Flavor Flav's take
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it during this time he was like [ __ ]
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Griff
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we need the [ __ ] anyway because
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the - that was his attitude the - you
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never really got along anyways I guess
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right never really got along because I'm
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not smoking drugs with you I'm not
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drinking with you
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I'm not bagging chicks with you I'm not
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no yeah so I guess there's a press
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conference where they announced that
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Professor Griff is now no longer in the
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group yeah
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hit that a [ __ ] a press conference
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without me there right let me tell you
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something I'm gonna be honest with you
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and very transparent about a showed up
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at the press conference how to rearrange
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that [ __ ] furniture in that
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place me and about 20 dudes but I'm alum
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who do
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