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Hi. Nice to meet you. - Hello, Mr.
President. How are you today?

Yeah?

I'm... tired today,
a little bit.

I didn't sleep well.

Yeah, but your muscles hurt.

I took a nice walk.

I took a nice walk
with my wife in the park.

And I was thinking about Sochi
in the fourth century BC,

what it must have been
like here.

Is that your... Is that his home?

It's pretty.

Pretty, peaceful here.
Do you want to talk out here?

I mean, uh, tell him
I'm fine either way.

Can we start?

Should we go in that way?

- Yeah. All right.
- Just, you know. Let's...

This was a rehearsal out here.

I wanted to go over
the Ukraine crisis.

We've had this discussion before on
my first visit, on the terrorists.

I wanted to go over it,
just to be really clear,

because this is
very important to the, uh...

to people who
will be watching this show.

Both EU and Ukrainian
officials said on Thursday,

the suspension of talks
on closer ties could be revived

after the two-day meeting,

but officials said the deal
was off the table for now.

From November to February 20th,

2013 into 14, there was
quite a bit of protest.

I remember him vividly
on television saying it was

a coup in slow motion.

It was pretty evident,
transparent to the Russians.

The Ukraine to us was not...
We were not paying attention.

No... Yeah.

Of course.
Of course.

For weeks, this European capital has
been the scene of a violent uprising.

Today, the bloodiest day yet.

The protesters are pushing up
towards the government district,

armed here
with Molotov cocktails,

but we saw handguns
and shotguns too.

There is absolutely no doubt
that snipers are working here.

I've counted ten bodies.

There are casualties
on both sides.

Well, she just said that there
are six dead people up there.

Not just injured, dead. They say
they've been hit by snipers.

Fourteen policemen dead
and 43 wounded?

During the Maidan Massacre,

did you get any intelligence
of what was going on?

It's the strangest massacre

because of the number
of casualties of policemen

and the civilians
who were killed indicates...

And the policemen
not firing back,

they were retreating
and called back by Yanukovych.

During that, it seems like
there was this...

A sniper force
that was definitely aiming

at the policemen
and the civilians to create

the chaos necessary
for the takeover.

Well, who were these snipers?

Have you heard any reports about the
training that was going on in other cities

of battalion, of, uh, certain
Right-party Sectors?

Hardened, uh, people
of the right?

Hundred-man units came
to the city, I am told

in the days before
the, uh, the Maidan.

It was characterized
in the US press

as if Yanukovych abandoned Kiev.

Ukraine's parliament has voted for
the new speaker of the assembly

to become interim president.

Oleksandr Turchynov called
on lawmakers

to form an interim government
by Tuesday.

These latest developments
follow the dismissal

of president Viktor Yanukovych
on Saturday.

I'd like to ask is,
Mr. Obama during this period,

what kind of communications
did you have with him?

Obviously, you didn't agree.

Are you still talking to him?

Would you say relations,
uh, the dialogue is cordial?

Do they see each other visually
when they talk?

Yes. May I... So this is
just a trivial question,

I've always been curious.
Do they call each other

Vladimir and Barack?
Or do they call...

First name?
That's great.

Can we talk about outside influences
in this Ukraine story now?

We know the about the NGOs
that were operating in Ukraine.

We know that Victoria Nuland, the
undersecretary of state for Eastern Europe,

was very active supporting
change in government.

Good to see you.
We're here from America.

Would you like some bread?
Please, take something. Please.

We've invested
over five billion dollars

to assist Ukraine in these
and other goals

that will ensure a secure and
prosperous and democratic Ukraine.

We know that
Senator John McCain,

visited and was seen at rallies

with extremist leaders,
including some neo-Nazis.

This is about the future
you want for your country.

This is about the future
you deserve.

We know that America

and the National Endowment
for Democracy,

which is a, uh, also
a very influential pr...

A non-profit, private NGO, was
very active, very active here.

Carl Gershman, who was the president
of it, made very strong speeches,

uh, he wanted
an independent Ukraine.

And we know that the Hungarian
billionaire hedge funder,

George Soros was also
very involved in supporting

the groups from here,
in Ukraine.

In other words,
United States can unite...

Can keep a united
pro-American Europe,

and NATO, with an external
enemy such as Russia.

The final assault came

amidst fire and ice,

snipers on rooftops.

The Heavenly Hundred paid the ultimate
price of patriots the world over.

Their blood and courage

delivering to the Ukrainian people
a second chance for freedom.

Their sacrifice...

to put it bluntly,

is now your obligation.

In hindsight, looking back,

did you make a mistake
by annexing Crimea?

Because it cost you
tremendously.

The sanctions, the whole
East EU turns on Russia, the US.

It becomes big news,
because it's... it's illegal.

It's regarded as illegal in the
international post-war treaty world.

But it does raise questions on whether
this vote really is free and fair,

especially given the heavy military
presence in Crimea right now. Errol?

More than 95 percent voted
to become part of Russia.

Officials said there was
an unprecedented turnout,

with at least eight of ten eligible
Crimeans having their say.

But economically, as you say,
you're self-sufficient.

They're gone.
Let them have their problems.

It's not gonna destroy
your country.

And at one point, you told me
in our last, uh, meeting that,

I asked you, I said what about the,
you know, the Russian submarine base

in Crimea at Sevastopol.

He said it wasn't threatened

by the loss of the base.

Even if NATO made
an agreement with Ukraine,

I still don't see
the threat to Russia,

in a new... with a new,
with the new weaponry.

You know, this is
a pretty big place you got here.

Can you show me around?

How do they heat this place?

No, don't tell me.

Don't tell me. Don't tell me.

Do you get lonely at night,
when you walk the corridors?

I know you have an office here,

because I know...
It's hidden away.

I was in it once.

It was Stalin's old office.

Yeah.

Ten years of Munich speech.

He looks good.

Could've been a movie star.

February.

So today's the day
you got into trouble.

You had quite an audience.

Is this where you work now?

Do you take meetings
in here too?

- Sevastopol, you say?
- Yes, sir.

That's why you fought for it.
No.

So two desks.
How does he use them?

- That's mine.
- Yes. Yes.

Ah, that's great.
Mm-hmm.

That's my history book,
cowritten.

Yeah. Sure.
Endless curiosity.

Wow. Oh,
I've been here, yes.

This is where we had
our first night.

It was our first night.

Remember, Dmitry?
We started there.

So, three different offices.

Yep.

Last time we talked about, uh,
surveillance, mass-surveillance.

I had the impression
you were against it,

and you deplored
the American technique.

And as our Snowden movie
pointed out,

it was selected targeting,
would work best on terrorists.

And since that conversation, I've
been away, coming back and I...

There is a new law in Russia that I've
heard that has been signed by you,

what they call... has been
nicknamed the Big Brother law...

that provides for
mass surveillance techniques.

I'm surprised. Snowden has condemned them
here, in Russia. He's condemned them.

Right.

But, uh, why?
Why are you doing this?

It seems like a dragnet
on all Russian citizens.

Yes.

So, situation-type room.

This is, uh,
commando raids and stuff?

What happened?

Are those real airplanes
back there?

Access to submarines?

So, in conventional military
terms, your budget, as you said,

the American budget
is 600 billion.

Your annual budget is 66,

according
to the Russian statistics.

Sixty-six.
That's almost a tenth,

uh, twelve percent roughly
of American spending.

The Chinese are
at 215 billion, 215.

Saudi Arabia's at 87,

which leaves Russia
fourth place at 66.

Is this an accurate figure?

Whoa. Saudi Arabia's spending
more money than you are.

How do you do it? I mean,
you have quite an army.

I mean, quite
an intelligence economy.

But what's the trick?
I mean, how do you...

You don't have lobbies
that cost a lot of money?

You don't... No graft, no
corruption in this thing?

The US makes a lot
out of building up.

They keep talking about
its antimissile systems.

Is there a reason to believe there's
been some kind of breakthrough

in their technology?

Some kind of
first-strike superiority?

But they have a, they have a
plan... They're doing something.

I feel that they really are working,
that they can get an advantage

in which your missile silos would be
knocked out on a US first strike.

And we'd be able to absorb whatever
you had left to throw at us.

But then we'd warn you

that we're going to be hitting
you again with a second strike,

and that would really wipe out your
cities, your population, the whole works.

In the matter of Syria,
can you describe

what your objective was?

Give us a little history of that
and where you are now?

Who's they? The terrorists.

This is the biggest concern?

And, uh, the roads that ISIS
were using to drive

the trucks to, uh,
to Turkey, the oil trucks?

Right.

And you confronted Erdogan
with this information, correct?

You were hitting Turkmen areas,

and you didn't tell him,
uh, why?

Could you have said
in a diplomatic way,

uh, Mr. President, uh, we have
information, good information

that the oil is coming
into certain places in Turkey,

and we believe that there are
elements in Turkey on the border,

smugglers that are cooperating
with ISIS

and bringing the oil in, and
we're very concerned about that?

Who from the United States
was in that room?

So two times a day,
tomorrow, uh, today,

you'll give information to NATO as
to when the missions are in Syria.

To... Oh, really?
Directly.

And you get
the same information?

To prevent major catastrophes?

Yeah. This is
a dangerous situation.

I know.

So they're illegal.

Any foreign troops
coming to Syria

without our invitation...
Mmhmm.

Or consultation or permission,
they are invaders.

So we have French airplanes,
we have British, uh, fighters,

we have Turkish fighters,
and now we have...

Is there another one I missed?

Oh, really?
Yeah, really so.

Australians?
This is...

- And Canada.
- Mm.

What about Iran?
No Iranian air force?

So, it's pretty hot
air space, I'd say.

Uh...

You're making 72
to a 100 airstrikes a day?

Seven days a week?

- Yes. Yes.
- Wow.

And, uh... so there must be
some progress I would think?

We're not gonna have a Vietnam-type
situation here, are we?

You see progress?

It seems to me if you're
striking 70 to a 120 times a day

at least two months,
that's 60 days.

We're down to four
to seven thousand strikes?

How big is ISIS?
How big is this thing?

Who's on the ground?

But they don't have Stingers?

These people have fought
you before in Afghanistan.

Yeah.

So they were surprised?

I think it'd be a good... It's an
anti-recruitment poster for ISIS.

You wouldn't want to join ISIS
if you saw that poster.

Let's talk about
another war situation.

In the Crimean, when the
referendum was coming up,

the US destroyer Donald Cook
was apparently

coming right into the Black Sea

when it made a U-turn and didn't
carry through its mission.

It seems like it was similar
to the Cuban Missile Crisis

when the same thing happened
where a ship was coming towards

the demarcation line
and made a U-turn.

Rising tensions between the US and
Russia after a Russian fighter jet

buzzed a US warship
in the Black Sea.

ABC Chief Global Affairs
Correspondent Martha Raddatz

is tracking this all
from Washington.

Martha, this maneuver by the Russian
fighter carries echoes of the Cold War.

It certainly does, George.
This was a Russian jet

that screamed by a US
destroyer in the Black Sea,

not just once but 12 times

over a 90-minute period.

Yeah.

Bastion, was it called?

But this is a big missile.

And the destroyer, the Donald
Cook has Tomahawk missiles.

That's probably why
it turned around.

But your commander had
the authority to fire.

Still, it's a big
incident, potentially.

What time frame did all this take place?
This challenge?

Was he warned? Was there
a warning sent out to him?

All this thing takes place
in two minutes?

Thirty minutes?
Fifty minutes?

I mean, does this
happen all the time?

He sounds very cool.

Were you...
Were you contacted?

He admits to the brink.

Well, finally,
you're admitting it.

Yeah.

Yes.

At that time, you made a speech.

"This is our historic territory.
These are Russian people.

"They are in danger now.

"We can't leave them alone.

"It wasn't us
who staged the coup,

"it was done by nationalists

"and people
with far-right views.

"You supported them.
But where do you live?

"Five thousand miles away.

"But we live here,
and it is our land.

"What do you want
to fight for there?

"You don't know, do you?
But we do know.

And we are ready for it."

Is there any hope?

So he's an optimist.

Or Moscow will be a caliphate.

Thank you.

Well, you came close.

And now you're close again,
so it seems to be

a very tense presidency
you have.