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The person who
called 911, Thomas Morris,

he's dead, so is Joe Kercy.

This investigation now falls
under Operation Noble Eagle.

I'm forwarding you Bruce's
email, so you be careful.

When Bruce gets
into these moods,

Who knows where those
bastards are hiding out, just find them.

So tell me more
about your lone wolf theory.

All signs
point to our perp being a

highly-educated American
citizen with scientific expertise.

Bruce can snap.

You don't know what
Bruce is capable of.

So what should
I do with the report?

Just file it.

The results
came back, it's Ames.

Ames strain?

I didn't think it existed outside
of high security research labs.

It doesn't.

This
administration is not afraid

of saying the word Iraq.

Iraq has been on the
terrorist list for years.

That's USAMRIID, one
of only 16 labs in the US that

has the Ames strain which
means the anthrax came from

the most respected
biodefense lab in the country.

Sometimes I go places.

Bad neighborhoods
in Baltimore,

hoping somebody
will pick a fight.

No one's cleaning
up the streets.

There's no justice out there.

Justice?

Are you saying that you
carry a loaded weapon?

Bruce, in those moments
are you considering

doing bodily harm to someone?

People harm people
for bad reasons all the time.

If I wanted to do real damage,

every day I work
with deadly diseases

no one's never even heard of,

USAMRIID's full of them.

One vial from my lab, I could
contaminate the water supply,

wipe out a whole city.

Obviously I'm not that person.

I wanna help people and save
lives like my anthrax vaccine.

Why don't they see that?

Who?

The FBI, they subpoenaed
anthrax samples from us.

Keep poking on our labs
like we're the suspects, us,

the good guys, when
there's terrorists out there.

I'll tell you, Lisa,

senators here on
Capitol Hill are frustrated

by the FBI's sleepy response
to the anthrax attacks.

Five Americans have
lost their lives and

yet no terrorists
are in custody.

I'll make sure we get
a call on the Southwest today.

What's going on?

Copak's adding two more
teams to the investigation.

Miller and Reilly,

you'll join
Sykes' team as well.

Senate just voted to
send our troops into Iraq,

people's husbands,
sons, wives, daughters

will be risking their
lives to fight terrorists.

We owe it to them to find the
terrorists here on our soil.

They've been out on
the streets too long.

We need results.

Everyone, run down your
own leads, stay in your lanes,

too easy to influence
each other, pull focus.

Whoever gets me
a smoking gun first

I'm shifting all
resources to their team.

America needs to see someone in
handcuffs dragged into Guantanamo.

!!! Hope you enjoy the show !!!

I need to talk
to the head of the labs.

Chris, why don't you
pull access records?

Okay. I'll flag anybody who
was working unusual hours

in BSL three and four around
the time of the mailing.

Yeah, start
with the day after 9/11.

- After?
- Yeah.

The powder in the attack
letter is cruder than in

the second batch like
it was made in a hurry,

probably in
response to the towers.

You're turning the microscope
on the same scientist

you're asking
help solve this.

Got everybody on edge.

Dr. Livingston, why
did you team drag its feet

submitting
samples under subpoena?

Do you have any idea how overtaxed
this place has been since 9/11?

I got a
pretty good idea.

Our samples
should be arriving at

your repository
in Arizona today.

Other labs submitted
to the subpoena days ago.

Yeah.

I've spoken to
some of those labs.

They don't have agents running
all over their facility.

Why do
you think that is?

We wouldn't be here if
we didn't have evidence

leading us back to USAMRIID.

We're gonna
need to see psych evals on

all personnel with
access to level three and

level four hot suites.

Psych evaluations?

I mean, we don't do those.

You're telling me you
have scientists working with

every lethal pathogen
on this planet,

and no one ever thought to
monitor their mental stability?

Okay, well, then we
need every personnel file.

I've got another one,
left the lab a little late,

entered the hot suite alone,

stayed for two hours.

Add the name.

I'll go see if Dani has
flagged anyone on the list.

You delayed submitting
your anthrax samples for weeks.

Arizona says you kept
calling for clarification

on how to submit.

So?

So, it's
pretty simple, Bruce.

I sent in the samples.

They should have them by now.

You used
the wrong slants.

They won't accept it.

Because those generic
slants they want a malarkey,

mine are better.

They
don't care, Bruce.

Well, they should care.

Does no one give a darn
about quality anymore?

Just follow
their protocol, Bruce.

You're making us look like
we've got something to hide.

I've told Arizona to
dispose of your submissions.

We've promised that
you would comply and

re-submit right away.

I'm
not surprised, Adya,

since you've been
best buddies with

every FBI agent
who's walked in here.

Jesus Christ.

I didn't wanna be the
one to tell you but people are

beginning to wonder
what side you're on.

We're all
on the same side, Bruce.

We
should all be careful.

These are not
glorified cops with badges.

Some of these
agents are scientists.

And if you don't submit,

they will sweep in
and do it for you.

How's your anxiety?

The Valium should help
get a handle on that.

Have you noticed a difference
with the new dosage?

We're under attack!

There's no meds
that will fix that!

We're here to handle
how you react to those situations.

And was Baltimore the only
long drive you've taken lately

or have there been others?

We're
almost out of time.

You missed
group therapy twice.

Were you on one
of your drives?

I went to see Mara.

You said she
lived in upstate New York.

Why did you go see her?

I must
have been really mad.

Did you have your gun?

What did you do, Bruce?

I might have
put something in wine.

But I didn't give it to her.

I realized...

It's like that poem,

and all those emails,

I find after
I've sent them and

I don't remember.

This is all
confidential, isn't it?

Yes.

Unless I feel that you are
becoming a threat to yourself,

or to others.

Thank you so much for agreeing
to sit down with me today.

I understand how
disruptive this is.

And I know you guys are all
professionals protecting America and

it's exactly what this interview
is going to prove today.

So let's start by
talking a little bit about

some of your coworkers.

Tell me about Dr. Kurz.

Does he have any
connections overseas,

maybe the Middle East?

Not that I know of.

He is very dedicated,
doesn't joke around much.

What's it like, uh,
working for Dr. Livingston?

Do you ever hear her
criticize the government?

Well, no more
than anyone else nowadays.

Not sure, uh, honestly it
took a while to get to know her.

She's made some amazing
breakthroughs here though.

I have heard nothing
but good things about, uh, Dr. Ivins.

Ivins,
what can you say?

Bruce is Bruce.

He's always
quick with the joke,

he's a seriously
good researcher.

I had to cut this tree down in
my yard and who shows up on a,

on a Saturday with a chainsaw.

Helped me out with
some vaccine research.

And nobody has
a better sense of humor.

I have heard nothing
but good things about Bruce Ivins.

Bruce,
he's kind of a...

I mean...

Um, he's, uh,
how do I say it?

And odd duck?

I don't know what to tell you.

Have you guys
come across Bruce Ivins?

Uh, yes, he was on
the late-night access list.

Why, did
he say something?

I haven't
interviewed him yet but

it's more what
everybody isn't saying.

The men really love this guy but
there's something with the women,

and I've talked to several and

he makes them
really uncomfortable.

Okay.

So he's not exactly
smooth with the ladies,

how does that
link him to terrorism?

Well, it doesn't.

I'm just looking for
any behavior that flags.

Did you guys get
into the emails yet?

Yeah, they're
scattered in there.

We have 20,000 of them.

Server pulls them
in chronologically.

Be my guest.

Sykes, you up to
speed yet on Amerithrax?

I've been
following it for months, sir,

glad to be on board.

Mm-hmm.

I just, uh, I'm
wondering if first team

isn't maybe
veering off-course?

Heard Ryker's been taking
up a lot of resources and...

We tend to be more direct
within these walls, Sykes.

What do you got?

A tip from
some sources overseas.

I know when they
were record sniffing.

Take a look.

If you see something there,
I wanna head up this team.

You could put Ryker
back on petri dish duty.

I think I
just found something.

What's it say?

"I'm a little
dream self, short and stout.

I'm the other half of
Bruce when he lets me out."

Is that
good enough for you?

Can I do a preliminary
inquiry now?

Sorry, Helen.

It's okay, I'll clean it up.

It should be fine.

I love it. You too?

Yeah, me too.

That lone wolf profile you sent
to the microbiology community.

Yeah.

Remember that
hit we got in Seattle?

Her name is
Dr. Nancy Haigwood.

Thought
that was a dead end.

Yeah, so did the
superior who shelved it.

But there was a newer agent
who did the right thing and

tried to send it up
the chain but got shot down.

The point is, Dr. Haigwood
claims that Bruce Ivins

stalked her in grad school,
moved down the block from her,

and even vandalized her house.

And get this, at one point,

her dissertation
notebook was stolen.

And whoever took it left
a trail of clues for her

to find it using
a USPS mailbox.

The problem is, all
of this is anecdotal.

Oh, come on.

He screwed up his
repository submissions.

He's clocking
late night lab hours...

- Mm-hmm.
- Alone.

All at the time of
the attack letters but that

doesn't get us into court.

Well, I took
some of the emails home for

little bedtime reading,
no comments please.

This one, "My shrink says I have
a paranoid personality disorder,

an early sign
of schizophrenia,

I am becoming a person
I do not want to be."

No, what we need is
a direct link to the letters.

The language in
his emails is eerily similar.

There's another one
here to an old coworker,

"Osama Bin Laden has now decreed
death on all Jews and Americans."

Those letters were
published in all the papers.

He could just be
mirroring the language.

No, look at
the date, September 26.

We didn't find the first attack
letters until three weeks later.

Dammit, Bruce!

You scared me.

Now step back,
they're anthrax spores.

They have you working
on the vaccine, don't they?

That used to be my job.

A lot of changes around here.

It's okay.

I'm the one that
made you lose your grip.

I'll clean it up.

Does Copak know
you're circling USAMRIID?

Do you even have a suspect or

you're just throwing
a little gasoline on the weeds

to see if any snakes
comes slithering out?

Eyes on
your own page, Ryker.

We're all supposed to
follow our own lead so

we don't influence each other.

That doesn't mean
pitching a circus tent in

the middle of someone
else's investigation.

No one thought
this was possible but you can see,

plain as day, different
colonies of Ames with

identifiable characteristics.

How did you
make the colonies morph?

It wasn't intentional.

It was one of our
ongoing anthrax projects,

a colleague got busy,
the cultures overgrew.

We never considered
incubation time as a factor.

Arizona's been trying
to sequence the genomes

all this time and you
just stumbled upon this?

Even with
all these minds and brains,

accidents are often how the
biggest breakthroughs happen.

If we can identify
a specific morph in the spores

of the attack letters then match
it to the subpoenaed samples,

we've got our smoking gun.

Once I can
get back into the BSL4 lab,

I will forward
you my findings.

What do you
mean back into the lab?

Well, we had a spill.

Bruce surprised me,

I didn't see him so
I knocked over a tray.

Wait.
Dr. Ivins was there?

He's been
pretty edgy lately,

sees me as a traitor for
working with the Bureau.

Did he leave
the lab with you?

No, he took it
upon himself to decon the area

and some nearby offices.

- Including his?
- Yeah.

Brought in a whole team.

It's a little overboard if
you ask me but that's Bruce.

Our number one suspect just
cleaned up his own crime scene.

I got to bring
in Ivins tonight.

What? No.

We don't have enough
ammo to confront him.

He could literally be destroying
evidence as we speak.

Let me just try to dig
up something from his past,

something that can push
his buttons, uh, a motive.

Go ahead and track down
his childhood sled if you want.

If he knows
we're circling him,

the cleanup
might not end here.

He could head home and destroy
anything incriminating.

We may only have one
shot at a confession here and

he is not primed for it.

And if we
give him more time,

we may lose any chance
we have at nailing him.

He's making rash moves,
I'm ordering a polygraph.

If you're
determined to do this,

the way in has to be
through his hero's complex.

He wants to
prove how smart he is.

We get him talking...

It's not my
first interrogation,

I got it.

Lebanon PD, how can I help?

Agent
Toretti FBI here,

I am looking for some information
on a former resident, Bruce Ivins.

I'd be interested in anything
from his early years in Ohio,

should narrow your search
down to '50s and '60s.

I'll see what I can find.

Okay, um,
I'll actually hold.

No problem.

- Dr. Ivins?
- Yeah.

I
hear you're one of us.

A microbiologist.

I am.

A microbiologist
in the FBI.

Neat.

Uh, before they
administer the polygraph,

I thought I'd ask you
a few questions about

the samples you
submitted to us.

Oh, yeah.

Well, I already got
an earful about my misstep.

So you
intentionally submitted

inadequate anthrax
samples under subpoena?

Yes.

But only because the slants
you guys requested were inferior.

And the weeks leading up
to September 18th, 2001, uh,

the postmark date of
the first attack letter,

did you work extra hours,
unaccompanied hours in the

BSL4 lab with
Bacillus Anthracis Ames?

After 9/11 everyone
at USAMRIID was working late.

You recognize
this post office?

Yeah.

Did you ever purchase
pre-stamped envelopes

at this post office?

A couple
of times I guess.

What about this email,

referencing anthrax
and Saddam Hussein?

You read
my personal emails?

You know that was a joke?

What about these?

Did you do this, Dr. Ivins?

You talked to Nancy?

How is a stupid thing that I
did 20 years ago at all relevant?

Okay. Fine, yes.

When I was younger,
I had obsessive

behaviors linked to
sororities specifically,

Kappa Kappa Gamma, of which

Nancy Haigwood was an alumna.

Is it peculiar? Yes.

Can I explain it? Nope.

Happy?

You know, that's not
the only thing I did.

What else, Dr. Ivins?

I let myself
into a sorority house,

two actually.

I stole their ritual book
and a cypher to decode it.

No one ever suspected me.

But I didn't hurt anyone.

See, I'm not hiding anything.

Aren't you?

Didn't you email a colleague,

another friend on numerous
occasions about a different, Bruce?

Saying that you were concerned
about your psychological state.

Did you ever experience
extreme anxiety, dissociation?

I know
what you're doing.

Look, I may not be
the most popular guy.

There might even be a few people
who have said I'm odd behind my back.

But does that
make me a killer?

I mean, when are you guys
gonna realize I'm here to help you?

Yes. Fine, yes.

How'd you even
end up doing this,

a microbiologist in the FBI?

Pathogen biology is
a pretty competitive field.

We can't all be the ones
making scientific breakthroughs,

I suppose, but.

I wanted
to serve my country.

Is that what
you tell yourself?

Because I can't
imagine going in and see...

Ryker's already burned through
most of what we've got on him.

Of wearing a suit at a desk.

You know,
silver bullets.

That's not for everybody.

Oh, okay.

Maybe a splinter,
enough to irritate him and

get his walls down.

I am curious, though.

What went wrong with your
dissertation, Agent Ryker?

Mistaking a eukaryotic
cell for a prokaryotic?

I knew plenty of guys
like you in college.

- Is that right?
- Oh, yeah.

Ivins is
feeling empowered.

I can tell half a dozen
in the halls around the labs...

He should get him to
open up and if he loosens up

then maybe I can get some
answers about his past.

This guy
is just, you know, smart.

But it didn't matter
how hard they studied,

they just didn't
have the imagination.

It does take
a unique blend of talents,

plus a willingness to
skate on the edge which

I'm guessing is
difficult for you.

But hey, would a sane person tie
a key to a kite in a thunderstorm?

You know that
Franklin didn't actually

fly the kite in
that storm, right?

He had his son do it.

Even noble people do
unforgivable things,

don't they?

You're
missing my point.

Are you familiar with
the Stentor Roeselii?

It's a single-celled ciliate micro-organism
capable of making intelligent,

complex decisions
all without the help

of a central nervous system.

Zero support.

No other organism on earth
has such an innate gift.

Is that how
you see yourself?

Some sort of
gifted Stentor Roeselii?

What does that
make guys like me?

Plasmodial slime mold?

Think about it, I know most
Americans aren't paying attention,

but you guys had signs,
that 9/11 was gonna happen.

Flight lessons, a warning
of an attack on New York.

And now, you can't figure
out who sent these letters.

All the hours you put in
and you just can't measure up.

So instead, you are harassing
hard-working patriots like me.

Have you even done
your homework, Agent Ryker?

I mean, what
about Thompson, Benjadi,

or even Kurz?

There are plenty of
people with my same access.

But they didn't point the finger
at their colleagues, did they?

You're the only doing that.

Here's what I think.

No. No. No, no.

Just like the clue you
left Haigwood to find her notebook...

I think you
wanna be found out.

This is some sort of
twisted experiment, isn't it?

Uh, sorry, Agent Ryker.

Sorry I'm late.

Oh, it's okay.

We have a few
more questions to go.

Good, I have
another one, if that's all right.

- Mr. Ivins...
- Doctor.

It's Dr. Ivins.

And you are who again?

Oh, I'm just
another hunk of slime mold.

Doctor Ivins,
in your own words,

can you describe
your childhood for me?

I don't see what that
has to do with any of this.

Maybe it's better we
focus on one event in particular.

The police responded to a

domestic disturbance
to your house.

Did you witness
your mother's attack?

This was an accident.

Neighbors described your mother as
unpredictable, irrational, and violent.

You were there,
weren't you, Bruce?

Are we
almost done here?

Childhood trauma
can have a lasting effect

on a person.

Did your mother
ever hurt you, Bruce?

My mother loved me.

She loved me very much.

Now, Doctor Ivins,

you understand that
your appearance here today

and taking this
polygraph test is voluntary?

Yes.

To
establish a baseline,

is your name
Bruce Edwards Ivins?

Yes.

Were you
born in Lebanon, Ohio?

- Yes.
- Hmm. Okay.

Now, we are going
to run something called a stim test.

To measure
my adrenal response.

I'm
gonna need you to lie

when you answer
my next question.

That will give us indicators
to look for if you lie in

response to a later question.

But I'm not
gonna lie to you.

Are you
a time traveler?

Sorry. Yes,
I am a time traveler.

Last
question, Doctor Ivins.

In the fall of 2001, did you mail
letters containing Anthrax via the

United States Postal Service?

No.

You get
any hits off him?

We got a good
read on the baseline for comparison.

Where did he lie?

Some lines
indicated elevated stress,

but no answer
showed deception.

What about when you asked
if he mailed the attack letters?

No, it looks
like he's not your guy.

So, I told him
exactly what I thought.

That he wasn't
supporting me in my decision.

I used exactly the words
that we discussed and

you know what?

He shut his trap for the
rest of the night. It worked.

Oh.

That's
really great to hear.

Yeah.

Bruce? Bruce?

Would you like to
tell us about your week?

Yeah,
it was wonderful.

Very productive.

Ryker, I made some
calls and it's debatable.

It, it's not the easiest
to trick a poly.

Unless he's a
complete sociopath.

Hmm.
What's your gut say?

I think he felt like he had
the upper hand with you.

That might have
put him at ease and

thrown his vitals off.

So, you're
saying I screwed up?

No, it
was a solid tactic,

but I think it is safe to say that
your cracks were showing through

that perfectly
pressed suit of yours.

All right, Sykes,
what do you got?

Who the hell is that?

Steven Hatfill received his
medical training in Africa.

Hatfill just happened to be on
the ground in Rhodesia during

the most deadly Anthrax
outbreak in recent history.

He trained first responders
on bioweapon threats,

which would include anthrax.

Do you have a direct link
between Hatfill and the letters?

It says right here
he's a virologist.

A virus guy, not bacteria.

About his
science background,

Mr. Hatfill claimed to have a
degree that there's no record of.

And to be a part of
a royal medical society

that hasn't heard of him.

A few people in this room have
resumes that look better than reality.

You can't just pick up
anthrax at a local drugstore.

Do we have proof that
he had access to it?

Actually, Hatfill
did work at USAMRIID.

For two years.

Now, we don't know yet what
Hatfill had access to then,

but we do know that he tried to
get higher security clearances.

One of which was
suspended before 9/11.

And if he wasn't
handling deadly bacteria,

wanna tell me why
he was taking Cipro at

the time the attack
letters were mailed?

All right.
Our top suspect is Hatfill.

Ryker, I'm putting
you on Sykes' team.

He's short a science guy.

Does that include me?

No, he's already
got a behavioral analyst.

Head up to the fifth
floor for reassignment.

You too, Agent Moore.

- Well done.
- Thank you, sir.

- I'm staying on Ivins.
- Really?

I mean, the guy passed his
polygraph like a valedictorian.

They don't have any
more on Hatfill than we do

on Ivins and the
science doesn't add up.

But, you know, if
they make Hatfill the target,

we are gonna catch hell
for veering off course.

No, I'll be
the one to catch hell

because I'm the only
one who is reassigned.

All right. I'm in.

What's the plan?

What do you think about
seeing if one of the people

that Bruce
confided in, emailed,

would be willing
to contact him?

I don't think
he's gonna confess like that,

but it is worth a shot.

Chris, I need
you to surveil him.

See what he does
in his downtime.

Especially if he thinks he
sailed through the polygraph,

he might make
a misstep we can use.

Okay.

And what about you?

Looks like I'm
stuck playing science guy for

Sykes's wild goose chase.

I'll check in when I can.

All right.

Excuse me, sir.

Have you found
the Anthrax Killer?

Is the suspect
in custody, sir?

The citizens
deserve to know, are we in danger, sir?

Another inexplicable
leak to the press,

complete with a circus.

You're going to let the
public indict this guy before

we have any physical evidence?

Where is Hatfill, anyway?

Got him at a motel.

He thinks we're doing this to
everyone who's worked at USAMRIID.

Come on.

Meet Tinkerbell
and her cohort.

Let's give them the scent.

I just need visual confirmation
on air sample 23-Q37

from the letter that
Senator Daschle received.

Confirmed.

All right, boys.

There you go.

Okay.

All right, boy,
you got it.

Find it, find it.

What do you know?

Hatfill's place.

Suit up.

So, I'm in the back of a truck
in freakin' Rhodesia, right?

And who ambushes us?

Marxist rebels.

You're kidding me.

What
choice do I have?

I leap off the
back of a truck,

but I forget that
I have a pack on,

I fall flat on my face
and break my damn nose!

I, I couldn't
breathe right for years!

I just went under for sinus...

That's my house.

Ongoing since October.

You said
routine search.

Agents in Hazmat
suits are searching the home

of the person of interest
in the Anthrax murders.

We haven't been able to get
confirmation or more details from the FBI,

but this could be the first
real breakthrough we've seen

on the Amerithrax
case in months.

A new development
in the Anthrax investigation,

FBI agents today
searched the home of

a former government
researcher Steven Hatfill

is a specialist in
infectious diseases

who's done research for the
government since the '80s.

Got it, pulled up a photography
unit right out front, so.

Yeah.

Second degree until
something's detected.

We might
need to process this.

None of our rapid
test are picking up spores.

In fact, we're not finding
anything that points to where

Hatfill cultured his Anthrax.

So, what do you think?

He's got some sort of
secret lair somewhere?

No, a storage unit.

We're trying to locate
it and get a warrant.

- Agent Sykes?
- Yeah, what do you got?

It's an
unpublished novel.

There's a synopsis.

It's about a terrorist who
unleashes a deadly plague

on Washington D.C.

Excuse me,
where's the computer?

FBI took it.

Saved up a year
to upgrade those.

Hi, Agent Ryker,

- this is Dr. Livingston.
-: Hmm. Yes?

Just got off the
phone with the repository in Arizona.

They ran our new morph test on
samples from different labs,

USAMRIID's among them.

Everything came up negative.

All the
USAMRIID samples?

None were a match
to the Anthrax used in the letters.

Hope that answers any questions
about the integrity of our team.

Thank you, um,
I'll, uh, I'll be in touch.

We got the
warrant for the storage unit.

Holy crap.

Hatfill has a
map to Camp David.

I got one here, too.

It's hand drawn,
don't know by whom,

but it looks like it leads to a
remote location in the woods.

You still think
we got the wrong guy?

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