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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,444 --> 00:00:11,324 - In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:11,359 --> 00:00:12,749 sexually based offenses 3 00:00:12,795 --> 00:00:15,055 are considered especially heinous. 4 00:00:15,102 --> 00:00:17,412 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 5 00:00:17,452 --> 00:00:19,242 who investigate these vicious felonies 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:20,720 are members of an elite squad 7 00:00:20,759 --> 00:00:22,669 known as the Special Victims Unit. 8 00:00:22,718 --> 00:00:24,548 These are their stories. 9 00:00:26,548 --> 00:00:28,378 - This is all her fault. 10 00:00:28,419 --> 00:00:31,069 She's the one who wanted to send me away. 11 00:00:31,118 --> 00:00:32,418 - What happens now? 12 00:00:32,467 --> 00:00:34,767 - Your son tried to kill his sister. 13 00:00:34,817 --> 00:00:36,377 He shot a cop. 14 00:00:36,427 --> 00:00:39,127 - The judge will sentence him to a juvenile facility. 15 00:00:39,169 --> 00:00:40,339 - So that he'll get help? 16 00:00:40,388 --> 00:00:42,168 - In a secure treatment facility. 17 00:00:42,216 --> 00:00:43,696 - You mean he's gonna be locked away? 18 00:00:43,739 --> 00:00:46,389 - Yes, probably until he's 18. 19 00:00:48,570 --> 00:00:51,490 - My name is Henry Mesner, 20 00:00:51,529 --> 00:00:53,659 and I'm 18 years old. 21 00:00:53,705 --> 00:00:55,875 I've been a patient at Hesland Juvenile Psychiatric 22 00:00:55,925 --> 00:00:58,615 since I was ten. 23 00:00:58,667 --> 00:01:00,447 When I came here, 24 00:01:00,495 --> 00:01:03,105 I was incapable of empathy. 25 00:01:03,150 --> 00:01:05,280 I was lacking remorse, 26 00:01:05,326 --> 00:01:07,146 impulsive, 27 00:01:07,197 --> 00:01:09,107 a pathological liar, 28 00:01:09,156 --> 00:01:11,286 and had poor anger control. 29 00:01:11,332 --> 00:01:13,642 I know these are diagnostic terms, 30 00:01:13,682 --> 00:01:16,602 but they did describe me and my behavior as a child. 31 00:01:16,641 --> 00:01:19,381 I wasn't mad. It was just an experiment. 32 00:01:19,427 --> 00:01:21,687 - How do you mean, Henry? 33 00:01:21,733 --> 00:01:24,173 - I wanted to see if she'd roll all the way down. 34 00:01:24,214 --> 00:01:25,524 She was on an angle, 35 00:01:25,563 --> 00:01:27,573 so she hit the landing and stopped. 36 00:01:27,609 --> 00:01:30,389 - I've treated Henry for the past five years. 37 00:01:30,438 --> 00:01:33,348 He has been an exemplary patient, 38 00:01:33,397 --> 00:01:36,707 curious and proactive in his own recovery, 39 00:01:36,748 --> 00:01:39,748 an active and empathic participant in group. 40 00:01:39,795 --> 00:01:41,705 You don't see it often, 41 00:01:41,753 --> 00:01:43,843 but he broke diagnosis. 42 00:01:43,886 --> 00:01:45,706 When he was admitted, he was on the severe end 43 00:01:45,757 --> 00:01:47,757 of the youth psychopathy checklist. 44 00:01:47,803 --> 00:01:49,813 - I never liked Snowball. 45 00:01:49,848 --> 00:01:51,418 - And what did you do, Henry? 46 00:01:51,459 --> 00:01:53,719 - I tied her leash to the faucet, 47 00:01:53,765 --> 00:01:55,675 then I turned on the tub and held her down. 48 00:01:58,814 --> 00:02:00,424 - And Snowball? 49 00:02:00,468 --> 00:02:03,118 - Took longer than I thought. 50 00:02:04,211 --> 00:02:06,471 - In Henry's years of treatment, 51 00:02:06,517 --> 00:02:09,257 with the positive reinforcement of our facility, 52 00:02:09,303 --> 00:02:10,523 he has learned the tools 53 00:02:10,565 --> 00:02:12,345 to control his emotions and behavior, 54 00:02:12,393 --> 00:02:15,533 to break out of the cycle of discipline and defiance. 55 00:02:15,570 --> 00:02:18,570 - Myself, my wife Holly, Henry's stepmother, 56 00:02:18,616 --> 00:02:21,226 and his sister, Ruby, have visited regularly. 57 00:02:21,271 --> 00:02:23,321 We look forward to him coming home 58 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,280 to live with us and his new little brother, Arlo. 59 00:02:26,842 --> 00:02:30,242 I'm sad that Henry's mother, who passed away five years ago, 60 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,540 isn't here to see this. 61 00:02:31,586 --> 00:02:34,546 But I know how proud and heartened she would be 62 00:02:34,589 --> 00:02:36,549 of Henry now. 63 00:02:39,246 --> 00:02:41,636 - My years at Hesland have taught me to understand 64 00:02:41,683 --> 00:02:43,863 that other people have feelings. 65 00:02:45,339 --> 00:02:46,989 That they can be hurt. - 66 00:02:47,036 --> 00:02:50,646 - That my behavior has consequences. 67 00:02:50,692 --> 00:02:52,652 I'm very grateful to the staff, 68 00:02:52,694 --> 00:02:54,304 and especially Dr. Mackie, 69 00:02:54,348 --> 00:02:57,438 for encouraging me to believe that I could change. 70 00:02:57,481 --> 00:03:00,531 For having faith in me. - Henry--Henry! 71 00:03:00,571 --> 00:03:02,701 - For seeing me not as a psychopath, 72 00:03:02,747 --> 00:03:05,837 but as a lonely and frightened boy. 73 00:03:05,881 --> 00:03:09,411 A boy who just wanted to love and be loved. 74 00:03:10,668 --> 00:03:13,718 Daddy, don't let them take me away. 75 00:03:13,758 --> 00:03:14,848 I'm sorry. 76 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:16,410 I love you. 77 00:03:16,457 --> 00:03:18,367 - I love you too. 78 00:03:20,374 --> 00:03:23,254 - Thank you, Henry, for your thoughtful words about love, 79 00:03:23,290 --> 00:03:24,900 about family. 80 00:03:24,943 --> 00:03:27,693 Let's adjourn now while I go through the evidence presented. 81 00:03:27,729 --> 00:03:30,379 I'll render a decision before the holidays. 82 00:03:30,427 --> 00:03:36,737 83 00:03:39,697 --> 00:03:46,697 84 00:04:23,567 --> 00:04:25,827 - The vic's name is Libby Blandon, 19. 85 00:04:25,874 --> 00:04:27,704 She's unconscious, burned, lost a lot of blood. 86 00:04:27,745 --> 00:04:29,045 They really did a number on this girl. 87 00:04:29,094 --> 00:04:30,444 - Sexually assaulted? 88 00:04:30,487 --> 00:04:32,657 - Her roommate found her tied up, gagged, naked. 89 00:04:32,707 --> 00:04:34,267 - Did the victim tell her anything? 90 00:04:34,317 --> 00:04:37,057 - I guess I should've asked. She's completely freaked out. 91 00:04:37,102 --> 00:04:38,582 - Okay. Thanks. 92 00:04:41,498 --> 00:04:43,628 - Libby and I were at a dage yesterday, 93 00:04:43,674 --> 00:04:45,024 a day rage. 94 00:04:45,067 --> 00:04:47,977 Libby left early at 7:00 or 8:00. 95 00:04:48,026 --> 00:04:50,586 - By herself? - I think so. 96 00:04:50,638 --> 00:04:53,378 - But you didn't come home till the morning? 97 00:04:53,423 --> 00:04:55,303 - I hooked up with my ex, okay? 98 00:04:56,948 --> 00:04:58,648 Oh, my God. 99 00:04:58,689 --> 00:05:00,389 That might've saved my life. 100 00:05:03,041 --> 00:05:05,041 - Bag these cigarette butts. 101 00:05:07,394 --> 00:05:08,874 - What the hell happened here? 102 00:05:09,961 --> 00:05:12,401 - We're looking at a psycho. 103 00:05:12,442 --> 00:05:13,752 You okay? 104 00:05:13,791 --> 00:05:16,361 - Yeah, um, 105 00:05:16,403 --> 00:05:18,843 security cams just show groups of kids 106 00:05:18,883 --> 00:05:20,623 coming in and out all night long. 107 00:05:20,668 --> 00:05:22,368 Half of them wearing masks. 108 00:05:22,409 --> 00:05:24,719 It's gonna be hard to tease him out. 109 00:05:24,759 --> 00:05:26,849 Had to have left some DNA. 110 00:05:26,891 --> 00:05:29,721 - He may not be in CODIS. With an M.O. like this, 111 00:05:29,764 --> 00:05:30,984 if he'd ever been in the system, 112 00:05:31,026 --> 00:05:32,936 they'd've never let him out. 113 00:05:34,899 --> 00:05:37,469 - Ugh, Mom, this is exactly 114 00:05:37,511 --> 00:05:39,691 what I was afraid of. 115 00:05:39,730 --> 00:05:42,430 No, I know, but it was your idea to have Dad move in. 116 00:05:42,472 --> 00:05:44,432 You can't call me every time 117 00:05:44,474 --> 00:05:46,394 he spills orange juice. 118 00:05:46,433 --> 00:05:47,783 You okay, baby? 119 00:05:47,825 --> 00:05:49,475 Okay, you know what? I'll drive up next weekend, 120 00:05:49,523 --> 00:05:52,003 and we can have a family meeting, a sit down, 121 00:05:52,047 --> 00:05:53,957 and go over some ground rules, all right? 122 00:05:55,703 --> 00:05:58,793 Okay, Mom, I gotta let you go. It's my boss calling. 123 00:05:58,836 --> 00:06:00,486 Liv. 124 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,099 Okay. 125 00:06:03,145 --> 00:06:06,705 Yeah, yeah, I'll meet you at the hospital... 126 00:06:06,757 --> 00:06:10,407 Hey, Jesse, time to go! 127 00:06:17,681 --> 00:06:18,991 Jesse! 128 00:06:19,030 --> 00:06:21,420 129 00:06:21,468 --> 00:06:22,598 Jesse! 130 00:06:22,643 --> 00:06:23,993 131 00:06:24,035 --> 00:06:25,855 Jesse! 132 00:06:27,430 --> 00:06:29,430 - Look what I got! 133 00:06:29,476 --> 00:06:30,826 - Ah. 134 00:06:30,868 --> 00:06:33,478 Wow, you found that, huh? 135 00:06:33,523 --> 00:06:35,833 Maybe we should leave it here for the other kids, okay? 136 00:06:35,873 --> 00:06:37,753 - A nice man gave it to me. 137 00:06:37,788 --> 00:06:40,788 - A--what? Oh, okay. 138 00:06:40,835 --> 00:06:43,485 What, somebody's daddy? - Uh-uh. 139 00:06:43,533 --> 00:06:44,803 - No? 140 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,409 Okay, who? 141 00:06:46,449 --> 00:06:48,759 Can you point out who gave it to you? 142 00:06:48,799 --> 00:06:50,669 - He's gone now. 143 00:06:50,714 --> 00:06:51,984 Please, please, can I keep it? 144 00:06:52,020 --> 00:06:55,890 He told me her name was Snowball. 145 00:06:55,937 --> 00:07:02,637 146 00:07:02,683 --> 00:07:05,513 - He knocked on my dorm room door. 147 00:07:05,555 --> 00:07:07,505 He said he was locked out. 148 00:07:07,557 --> 00:07:09,687 Asked if he could use my cell. 149 00:07:09,733 --> 00:07:11,693 I-I let him in. 150 00:07:11,735 --> 00:07:13,955 - Take your time. It's okay. 151 00:07:13,998 --> 00:07:16,908 - I figured he lived in the dorm. 152 00:07:16,958 --> 00:07:19,128 He was my age. He knew my name. 153 00:07:20,178 --> 00:07:21,878 He had a nice smile. 154 00:07:21,919 --> 00:07:24,489 - But you didn't recognize him. - No. 155 00:07:24,531 --> 00:07:27,011 - After you let him in, 156 00:07:27,055 --> 00:07:29,835 can you tell us what happened? 157 00:07:29,884 --> 00:07:31,494 - It was fast. 158 00:07:31,538 --> 00:07:34,978 He--he covered my mouth, 159 00:07:35,019 --> 00:07:38,499 pulled a knife, pushed me on the bed. 160 00:07:38,545 --> 00:07:42,765 He asked, "Should I cut your clothes or burn them off?" 161 00:07:42,810 --> 00:07:45,120 162 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,600 - So he made you choose. 163 00:07:47,641 --> 00:07:49,991 - I didn't answer. 164 00:07:50,034 --> 00:07:53,654 He just smiled. 165 00:07:53,690 --> 00:07:55,520 Then he tied me up, 166 00:07:55,562 --> 00:07:57,522 cut my clothes, 167 00:07:57,564 --> 00:08:00,654 raped me, burned me with cigarettes, 168 00:08:00,697 --> 00:08:02,957 choked me until I'd almost pass out, 169 00:08:03,004 --> 00:08:04,574 and then before he left, 170 00:08:04,614 --> 00:08:06,624 he asked for my debit card and the code. 171 00:08:06,660 --> 00:08:10,050 And just when he was leaving, 172 00:08:10,098 --> 00:08:11,968 he came back and took one of my stuffed animals. 173 00:08:13,536 --> 00:08:16,096 - It wasn't a white dog, was it? 174 00:08:17,322 --> 00:08:19,982 - Actually, yeah. 175 00:08:26,070 --> 00:08:27,640 Like that? 176 00:08:27,681 --> 00:08:29,641 - Yeah. Yeah, that's Daisy. 177 00:08:31,815 --> 00:08:34,505 - Sorry, Captain, we have to get Libby into surgery. 178 00:08:35,166 --> 00:08:36,296 You'll be fine. 179 00:08:36,341 --> 00:08:38,131 The CT caught an abdominal bleed. 180 00:08:38,996 --> 00:08:40,516 - Okay. 181 00:08:42,957 --> 00:08:44,517 What was that about? 182 00:08:44,567 --> 00:08:48,087 - At the park this morning, Jesse had a white stuffed dog. 183 00:08:48,136 --> 00:08:51,566 She told me a man gave it to her, and its name was Snowball. 184 00:08:51,618 --> 00:08:52,838 - Okay, where are the girls now? 185 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,060 - My mom picked them up this morning. 186 00:08:54,098 --> 00:08:55,538 They're heading up to Rockland County. 187 00:08:55,578 --> 00:08:56,838 He's not going up there. 188 00:08:56,884 --> 00:08:59,024 - Alert the county sheriff just in case. 189 00:08:59,060 --> 00:09:00,800 - This can't be a coincidence, right? 190 00:09:00,844 --> 00:09:03,154 I mean, Henry, the kid that shot Amaro, 191 00:09:03,194 --> 00:09:06,024 he drowned a dog named Snowball. 192 00:09:06,067 --> 00:09:09,717 - Okay, Henry Mesner, right? 193 00:09:09,766 --> 00:09:13,286 He was ten years old. He has to still be locked up. 194 00:09:13,335 --> 00:09:15,245 Fin? - I'll make some calls. 195 00:09:16,730 --> 00:09:18,170 - He got a hit on Libby's debit card. 196 00:09:18,209 --> 00:09:20,779 How long ago? 197 00:09:20,821 --> 00:09:23,821 Okay. Hey, be careful, all right? 198 00:09:23,867 --> 00:09:25,697 Uh, Jesse, Rollins' daughter, 199 00:09:25,739 --> 00:09:28,349 may have been approached by this guy. 200 00:09:28,393 --> 00:09:29,833 He knows who we are. 201 00:09:29,873 --> 00:09:33,963 202 00:09:34,008 --> 00:09:37,838 - Why are you messing with Keys again? 203 00:09:37,881 --> 00:09:39,581 I didn't do nothing! 204 00:09:39,622 --> 00:09:42,152 - You used a stolen debit card last night, 205 00:09:42,190 --> 00:09:44,580 and the girl whose card it was is now in the hospital. 206 00:09:44,627 --> 00:09:47,017 - I didn't hurt no girl. 207 00:09:47,064 --> 00:09:49,334 I'm just trying to survive. 208 00:09:49,371 --> 00:09:50,891 - Then tell us how you got the card. 209 00:09:51,982 --> 00:09:54,682 - He only let me have 50. 210 00:09:54,724 --> 00:09:56,684 I'll give the money back. 211 00:09:56,726 --> 00:09:59,686 I don't want anything to do with him. 212 00:09:59,729 --> 00:10:01,119 - Him who? 213 00:10:01,165 --> 00:10:02,815 - Something wrong with that guy. 214 00:10:02,863 --> 00:10:04,303 He ain't right. 215 00:10:04,342 --> 00:10:06,912 I don't want him coming after me. 216 00:10:06,954 --> 00:10:08,874 - Look, Keys, you gotta tell us what happened, 217 00:10:08,912 --> 00:10:10,912 or we're gonna have to take you down to the station. 218 00:10:10,958 --> 00:10:12,088 - You don't want people going through your stuff 219 00:10:12,133 --> 00:10:14,613 while you're in holding. 220 00:10:14,657 --> 00:10:16,307 - Okay. 221 00:10:16,354 --> 00:10:18,664 Okay. 222 00:10:18,705 --> 00:10:21,745 All I did was get the cash for him. 223 00:10:21,795 --> 00:10:24,005 Then he made me go into a hardware store. 224 00:10:24,058 --> 00:10:26,148 - Hardware store? For what? 225 00:10:26,190 --> 00:10:28,110 - A bunch of crazy stuff. 226 00:10:28,149 --> 00:10:30,719 Zip ties, rope, 227 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,410 duct tape. 228 00:10:32,457 --> 00:10:35,717 Oh, and a hand torch. 229 00:10:38,812 --> 00:10:40,292 - Henry Mesner. 230 00:10:40,335 --> 00:10:42,285 That's right, M-E-S-N-E-R. 231 00:10:43,381 --> 00:10:46,951 I get patient confidentiality, but this is an NYPD matter. 232 00:10:48,822 --> 00:10:50,652 Yes, ma'am, I know it's a Saturday, 233 00:10:50,693 --> 00:10:52,173 but I'm gonna need your supervisor to call me back. 234 00:10:52,216 --> 00:10:54,386 - Okay, how can they not know where he is? 235 00:10:54,436 --> 00:10:55,826 - Captain. 236 00:10:55,872 --> 00:10:58,272 Detective, this is Libby's mother, Dr. Blandon. 237 00:10:58,309 --> 00:11:00,879 - I'm Captain Benson. This is Detective Rollins. 238 00:11:00,921 --> 00:11:02,881 - Who would do this to my daughter? 239 00:11:02,923 --> 00:11:04,363 - We're trying to figure that out now. 240 00:11:04,402 --> 00:11:05,882 - Well, you should know from what they've told me 241 00:11:05,926 --> 00:11:07,926 of her injuries, that we're dealing with a psychopath. 242 00:11:07,971 --> 00:11:09,361 - Dr. Blandon, so you're a... 243 00:11:09,407 --> 00:11:10,967 - Adolescent psychiatrist 244 00:11:11,018 --> 00:11:13,108 specializing in violent behavior. 245 00:11:14,891 --> 00:11:16,981 - This may be a shot in the dark, 246 00:11:17,024 --> 00:11:20,424 but does the name Henry Mesner mean anything to you? 247 00:11:22,377 --> 00:11:25,207 - I haven't seen Henry in five years. 248 00:11:25,249 --> 00:11:26,899 I treated him when he was first admitted 249 00:11:26,947 --> 00:11:28,427 to Hesland Psychiatric. 250 00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:31,470 I was the one who told him that his mother had died. 251 00:11:31,516 --> 00:11:34,386 Why? 252 00:11:35,782 --> 00:11:38,872 - Did you ever talk to Henry about your daughter? 253 00:11:40,264 --> 00:11:42,924 - Well, sometimes to get patients to open up, 254 00:11:42,963 --> 00:11:46,793 I reveal details about my life. 255 00:11:46,836 --> 00:11:48,446 Oh, my God. 256 00:11:48,490 --> 00:11:50,140 Don't tell me they've released him. 257 00:11:52,015 --> 00:11:59,015 258 00:12:01,329 --> 00:12:02,979 - Tom Mesner? SVU! 259 00:12:03,026 --> 00:12:04,376 - Open the door now! 260 00:12:04,419 --> 00:12:05,419 - The neighbors say Henry's been living 261 00:12:05,463 --> 00:12:06,943 with his family since December. 262 00:12:06,987 --> 00:12:08,337 - Did they hear or see anything? 263 00:12:08,379 --> 00:12:09,419 - Nothing since yesterday. 264 00:12:09,467 --> 00:12:11,987 - Let's go, Mass. Let's do it. 265 00:12:12,035 --> 00:12:17,865 266 00:12:17,911 --> 00:12:20,041 - Mr. and Mrs. Mesner! 267 00:12:21,871 --> 00:12:23,791 NYPD! 268 00:12:23,830 --> 00:12:30,790 269 00:12:49,203 --> 00:12:55,953 270 00:12:55,992 --> 00:12:57,822 Stepmother's gone! 271 00:12:57,864 --> 00:13:00,484 272 00:13:00,518 --> 00:13:02,428 - So is the father. 273 00:13:02,477 --> 00:13:04,037 - I'll call the morgue. 274 00:13:04,087 --> 00:13:05,997 - I got another body downstairs. 275 00:13:06,046 --> 00:13:07,786 A kid, multiple stab wounds. 276 00:13:07,830 --> 00:13:09,790 - He had a little sister. Her name was Ruby. 277 00:13:09,832 --> 00:13:10,962 She would've been 13. 278 00:13:11,007 --> 00:13:13,437 - It's a little boy. He looks maybe five. 279 00:13:15,925 --> 00:13:19,015 - He's on a spree, and it started here. 280 00:13:19,059 --> 00:13:24,539 281 00:13:29,939 --> 00:13:32,069 - M.E. says the bodies are out of rigor. 282 00:13:32,115 --> 00:13:34,465 She puts time of death within 48 hours. 283 00:13:34,509 --> 00:13:37,729 The father Tom, stepmother Holly, half-brother Arlo. 284 00:13:37,773 --> 00:13:40,783 - So Henry murders his family on Friday morning, 285 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:42,780 he assaults Libby Friday night, 286 00:13:42,822 --> 00:13:45,782 and then on Saturday morning he heads to Rollins and Jesse. 287 00:13:45,825 --> 00:13:47,565 This guy is moving fast. - And he's armed. 288 00:13:47,609 --> 00:13:50,529 CSU just found a gun safe in the bedroom, open, empty. 289 00:13:50,568 --> 00:13:51,868 - I'm finding out how many weapons 290 00:13:51,918 --> 00:13:53,178 Tom Mesner had registered. 291 00:13:53,223 --> 00:13:54,793 - And Henry's room, there wasn't much in it. 292 00:13:54,834 --> 00:13:56,534 If he had a computer or cell phone, he took them with him. 293 00:13:56,574 --> 00:13:58,324 - Okay, have TARU check his landlines 294 00:13:58,359 --> 00:14:00,799 and the parents' cell. 295 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,890 Captain Benson. 296 00:14:03,930 --> 00:14:05,670 Ah, thank God. Thank God. 297 00:14:05,714 --> 00:14:07,934 All right, we'll meet her out there. 298 00:14:07,977 --> 00:14:10,367 Henry's sister, Ruby, is alive. 299 00:14:10,414 --> 00:14:13,814 She was staying at a friend's house out in Oyster Bay. 300 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:16,423 - And now we have to tell a 13-year-old girl 301 00:14:16,464 --> 00:14:19,774 that her whole family was murdered. 302 00:14:25,603 --> 00:14:28,303 - Ruby can still stay with us, right? 303 00:14:28,345 --> 00:14:31,605 - Yeah, of course, I mean, if that's okay with your mom, 304 00:14:31,653 --> 00:14:33,703 but I do need to speak with Ruby 305 00:14:33,742 --> 00:14:35,922 alone for a few minutes. - Come on. 306 00:14:35,962 --> 00:14:39,402 - We'll be right over there, honey, if you need us. 307 00:14:39,443 --> 00:14:41,793 Do we need to be worried, Detective? 308 00:14:41,837 --> 00:14:43,317 He's still out there. 309 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,490 - We'll have police presence out front 24/7. 310 00:14:45,536 --> 00:14:46,926 Don't leave the house. 311 00:14:46,973 --> 00:14:49,503 - It's just so horrendous. 312 00:14:49,540 --> 00:14:50,850 Holly was a friend. 313 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:53,330 She once told me how terrified she was of Henry, 314 00:14:53,370 --> 00:14:55,630 that he might snap one day. 315 00:14:55,677 --> 00:14:57,067 She tried to tell Tom. 316 00:14:57,113 --> 00:14:59,513 - Is that why he had a gun? - She said Tom thought 317 00:14:59,550 --> 00:15:02,470 if they all showed Henry enough love, he'd be fine. 318 00:15:02,510 --> 00:15:05,030 But Holly insisted on protection. 319 00:15:05,078 --> 00:15:08,338 - Arlo too? 320 00:15:08,385 --> 00:15:10,335 He was just a little boy. 321 00:15:12,694 --> 00:15:15,094 Henry hated him. 322 00:15:15,131 --> 00:15:16,611 So jealous. 323 00:15:16,654 --> 00:15:19,744 - When's the last time you spoke with your older brother? 324 00:15:19,788 --> 00:15:21,618 - Friday. 325 00:15:21,659 --> 00:15:23,709 I left early. School. 326 00:15:23,748 --> 00:15:24,968 They were having breakfast. 327 00:15:25,011 --> 00:15:28,841 - And do you remember anything about his mood 328 00:15:28,884 --> 00:15:31,024 or if he was upset about something? 329 00:15:32,627 --> 00:15:34,977 - He and my dad were fighting. - About what? 330 00:15:35,021 --> 00:15:37,891 - My dad was on him to get a job, 331 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,457 do something. 332 00:15:39,503 --> 00:15:40,983 - What had he been doing? 333 00:15:41,027 --> 00:15:43,987 - He kept bragging to Ruby about taking driving lessons. 334 00:15:44,030 --> 00:15:45,600 - Holly didn't like that. 335 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,160 She preferred when he'd stay in his room days on end. 336 00:15:48,208 --> 00:15:49,768 At least she knew where he was. 337 00:15:49,818 --> 00:15:51,988 - Stayed in his room all day doing what? 338 00:15:52,038 --> 00:15:53,908 - Playing video games. 339 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:56,483 I could hear him over his headset 340 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,000 talking to somebody. - Do you know who? 341 00:15:59,045 --> 00:16:00,995 - No. 342 00:16:01,047 --> 00:16:02,917 He'd been in Hesland for eight years. 343 00:16:02,962 --> 00:16:05,832 The only friends he had were the boys he met up there. 344 00:16:05,877 --> 00:16:08,917 They never should've let Henry out. 345 00:16:08,968 --> 00:16:10,708 Why did they let him out? 346 00:16:10,752 --> 00:16:14,892 347 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:18,850 - This is every psychiatrist's worst nightmare. 348 00:16:18,890 --> 00:16:21,980 The five years I've been here, we provided Henry with tools. 349 00:16:22,024 --> 00:16:24,944 When he turned 18, his family petitioned for his release. 350 00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:27,204 He demonstrated he was no longer a threat to society. 351 00:16:27,247 --> 00:16:29,467 - Who made that decision? - The court. 352 00:16:29,510 --> 00:16:31,860 But he passed all the psychological exams; 353 00:16:31,903 --> 00:16:34,043 he had an exemplary record; 354 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,470 his family testified they'd care for him. 355 00:16:36,517 --> 00:16:38,907 Three psychiatrists, myself included, 356 00:16:38,954 --> 00:16:41,044 testified on his behalf. 357 00:16:41,087 --> 00:16:43,997 The judge concluded we had no reason to hold him. 358 00:16:44,046 --> 00:16:45,086 - You weren't worried? 359 00:16:45,134 --> 00:16:47,924 - Again, no. When I met Henry, 360 00:16:47,963 --> 00:16:50,843 whoever he was before I got here was gone. 361 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:52,579 I believed he had turned his life around. 362 00:16:52,620 --> 00:16:54,620 - Let me ask you. You've heard about the theory 363 00:16:54,665 --> 00:16:56,745 that group therapy isn't effective for psychopaths? 364 00:16:56,798 --> 00:16:59,538 That they just learn how to mimic mental health? 365 00:16:59,583 --> 00:17:01,983 - I'm aware of and obviously 366 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:03,461 looked for that possibility, 367 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:06,070 but what scares me is I've been doing this 30 years, 368 00:17:06,112 --> 00:17:07,942 and no one has ever fooled me 369 00:17:07,983 --> 00:17:09,943 and an entire staff like this before. 370 00:17:09,985 --> 00:17:11,805 - So you're saying Henry spent, what? 371 00:17:11,856 --> 00:17:13,076 Eight years here learning 372 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,729 how to appear completely sane? 373 00:17:15,773 --> 00:17:19,133 - Unfortunately, yes. 374 00:17:19,168 --> 00:17:21,998 - We think he's on a spree. 375 00:17:22,041 --> 00:17:23,741 - And you have no idea where he is? 376 00:17:23,781 --> 00:17:27,661 - His sister thought he might be in touch with someone here. 377 00:17:27,698 --> 00:17:30,008 - He did have one friend. 378 00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:32,959 - Henry talked about being angry with his stepmother. 379 00:17:33,008 --> 00:17:34,918 Hate and anger aren't productive emotions. 380 00:17:34,966 --> 00:17:36,786 - Connor, do you have any idea where Henry might be? 381 00:17:36,838 --> 00:17:38,668 - I wish I could help, but no. 382 00:17:38,709 --> 00:17:40,489 - Have you talked to him lately? 383 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:44,109 - He left me a note when he got out, 384 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:45,850 told me to hang in there, 385 00:17:45,890 --> 00:17:47,590 put some money in my commissary. 386 00:17:47,631 --> 00:17:50,721 - Can we see that letter? 387 00:17:50,765 --> 00:17:52,765 - I'm not even sure where it is. 388 00:17:54,725 --> 00:17:57,075 - Hmm. What are you, Connor, 16? 389 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,639 - 17. 390 00:17:58,686 --> 00:17:59,986 - Man, I bet you wanna get out of here pretty soon. 391 00:18:00,035 --> 00:18:03,205 You know Henry just cut those chances in half. 392 00:18:03,256 --> 00:18:05,946 - That's really unfair. 393 00:18:05,997 --> 00:18:07,867 I'm very different from Henry. 394 00:18:07,912 --> 00:18:09,912 I've broken diagnosis. Ask Dr. Mackie. 395 00:18:09,958 --> 00:18:11,868 - Okay, well, look, Conner, you can talk the talk, 396 00:18:11,916 --> 00:18:13,526 but if you don't give up Henry-- 397 00:18:13,570 --> 00:18:15,090 Hey. 398 00:18:15,137 --> 00:18:18,097 I'm gonna personally testify that you aided and abetted. 399 00:18:18,140 --> 00:18:20,580 - I don't know where he is, honest. 400 00:18:20,621 --> 00:18:22,671 - Take a guess. 401 00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:24,060 - You might wanna check with Cora. 402 00:18:24,103 --> 00:18:25,323 She and Henry kinda hooked up. 403 00:18:25,365 --> 00:18:26,705 - Cora's a patient here? 404 00:18:26,757 --> 00:18:28,017 - My older sister. 405 00:18:28,063 --> 00:18:30,153 She comes up every few weeks to visit. 406 00:18:33,721 --> 00:18:35,851 - Cora Jackson, NYPD! 407 00:18:38,682 --> 00:18:41,692 Break it in. 408 00:18:41,729 --> 00:18:45,859 409 00:18:45,907 --> 00:18:48,037 - We're all clear, Captain. 410 00:18:54,133 --> 00:18:55,703 - What the hell? 411 00:18:55,743 --> 00:18:57,273 - Get on the ground, now! 412 00:18:57,310 --> 00:19:00,620 All the way down, hands where we can see them. 413 00:19:00,661 --> 00:19:02,711 Are you Cora Jackson? - Yeah. 414 00:19:02,750 --> 00:19:04,320 - Has Henry Mesner been here? 415 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:06,710 - Yeah, he's my boyfriend. 416 00:19:06,754 --> 00:19:07,974 - He's staying here? Is this his stuff? 417 00:19:08,016 --> 00:19:09,316 - Don't touch that! 418 00:19:09,365 --> 00:19:10,625 He doesn't like people going through his things! 419 00:19:10,671 --> 00:19:13,241 - When is the last time you saw Henry? 420 00:19:13,282 --> 00:19:15,202 - I don't know. This morning. 421 00:19:15,241 --> 00:19:17,681 - And where is he now? - I don't--I don't know. 422 00:19:17,721 --> 00:19:19,771 He said he had people to check in on. 423 00:19:19,810 --> 00:19:21,250 - Who? - I don't know! 424 00:19:21,290 --> 00:19:22,340 - And when did he leave? 425 00:19:22,378 --> 00:19:24,028 - I got a laptop, a tablet, clothes. 426 00:19:24,075 --> 00:19:25,725 - Bag everything. Come here, get up. 427 00:19:25,773 --> 00:19:26,953 - Don't you need a warrant? 428 00:19:26,991 --> 00:19:29,301 - Actually, no. Exigent circumstances. 429 00:19:29,342 --> 00:19:30,652 Listen to me. 430 00:19:30,691 --> 00:19:33,041 Your boyfriend is armed 431 00:19:33,084 --> 00:19:34,224 and dangerous. 432 00:19:34,260 --> 00:19:35,350 - Henry? 433 00:19:35,391 --> 00:19:38,261 No, he's--he's not who you think he is. 434 00:19:38,307 --> 00:19:41,397 He's a gentle soul. 435 00:19:41,441 --> 00:19:45,101 Those demons that used to haunt him, they're gone! 436 00:19:53,148 --> 00:19:55,408 - Henry was institutionalized for so long. 437 00:19:55,455 --> 00:19:57,235 He needs to breathe with no eyes on him. 438 00:19:57,283 --> 00:19:59,463 - Go off the grid. I get it. 439 00:19:59,502 --> 00:20:01,112 Any idea where he might go? 440 00:20:01,156 --> 00:20:04,506 - He likes to be by the water. 441 00:20:04,551 --> 00:20:08,121 He likes to go to the park and watch kids play. 442 00:20:08,163 --> 00:20:09,433 All that was taken away from him. 443 00:20:09,469 --> 00:20:10,769 - Uh-huh. What park? 444 00:20:10,818 --> 00:20:13,728 - He went to Morningside Park yesterday morning. 445 00:20:13,777 --> 00:20:15,867 - How do you know that? 446 00:20:15,910 --> 00:20:17,350 - When he takes pictures on his phone, 447 00:20:17,390 --> 00:20:19,700 they upload to our cloud. 448 00:20:19,740 --> 00:20:22,350 - We're gonna need your phone. 449 00:20:25,746 --> 00:20:27,696 - Okay, dozens of selfies, 450 00:20:27,748 --> 00:20:29,788 pictures of his dad, his stepmom Cora. 451 00:20:32,622 --> 00:20:35,632 Son of a bitch. He took pictures of Jesse. 452 00:20:36,757 --> 00:20:39,627 - Is Libby Blandon in there too? 453 00:20:39,673 --> 00:20:42,373 - Um. 454 00:20:42,415 --> 00:20:45,455 Let me see. Uh. 455 00:20:45,505 --> 00:20:47,325 Yeah. There. 456 00:20:47,376 --> 00:20:49,376 - It must've been Friday night. 457 00:20:49,422 --> 00:20:52,292 - He was stalking her. All of them. 458 00:20:52,338 --> 00:20:54,558 - Look, his little sister Ruby, at the house 459 00:20:54,601 --> 00:20:56,121 where she's staying in Oyster Bay. 460 00:20:56,167 --> 00:20:57,907 - We were just out there. 461 00:20:57,952 --> 00:20:59,392 - This was taken this morning. 462 00:20:59,432 --> 00:21:00,782 - So that must've been before we arrived. 463 00:21:00,824 --> 00:21:02,174 - So where is he now? 464 00:21:02,217 --> 00:21:03,907 - Get to the house. Alert the parents. 465 00:21:03,958 --> 00:21:07,178 I'll call Nassau PD. 466 00:21:07,222 --> 00:21:09,362 - Megan Davis still isn't picking up her cell, 467 00:21:09,398 --> 00:21:11,138 and the Volvo's gone from the driveway. 468 00:21:11,182 --> 00:21:13,362 - Maybe they went somewhere. - We told them not to leave. 469 00:21:13,402 --> 00:21:18,932 470 00:21:18,973 --> 00:21:20,713 - You guys are just getting here now? 471 00:21:20,757 --> 00:21:22,277 - Detective, what's the problem? 472 00:21:22,324 --> 00:21:23,414 No one called us from the house. 473 00:21:23,456 --> 00:21:24,716 - What took you so long? 474 00:21:24,761 --> 00:21:26,291 - Someone called in a bomb scare at the mall. 475 00:21:26,328 --> 00:21:27,678 All units. 476 00:21:27,721 --> 00:21:29,161 We put a squad car out front like you guys asked. 477 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,330 - Where's your guy? 478 00:21:30,376 --> 00:21:31,456 - I don't know. Code eight? 479 00:21:31,507 --> 00:21:34,337 - Pop the trunk. 480 00:21:34,380 --> 00:21:38,820 481 00:21:38,862 --> 00:21:40,912 Get him out of here. We gotta go inside. 482 00:21:56,271 --> 00:21:58,581 Fin! 483 00:21:58,621 --> 00:21:59,841 I got a pulse. 484 00:21:59,883 --> 00:22:01,363 Megan, Megan? Mrs. Davis, can you hear me? 485 00:22:01,407 --> 00:22:03,707 - Bus is right behind us. I'll get EMTs in here. 486 00:22:07,413 --> 00:22:10,683 Help, help, help! 487 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,330 - NYPD. Who's in there? 488 00:22:12,374 --> 00:22:15,464 - Help me, help me! Help! 489 00:22:15,508 --> 00:22:17,638 - Charlotte, it's Detective Tamin. 490 00:22:19,294 --> 00:22:20,774 Let's get you out of here. 491 00:22:20,817 --> 00:22:22,817 - My mom, is she okay? 492 00:22:22,863 --> 00:22:24,473 - She's gonna be fine. 493 00:22:24,517 --> 00:22:26,297 Now, Charlotte, what happened? 494 00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:28,255 - It was Henry. He took Ruby. 495 00:22:28,303 --> 00:22:29,783 - Okay. - Now did he-- 496 00:22:29,826 --> 00:22:32,386 did he say anything about where he might be going? 497 00:22:32,438 --> 00:22:34,608 - He said he wanted to go on a ride. 498 00:22:34,657 --> 00:22:36,357 - A ride? 499 00:22:36,398 --> 00:22:37,968 Thanks. 500 00:22:38,008 --> 00:22:40,708 - Okay, come on. - Okay. 501 00:22:41,969 --> 00:22:43,879 - We need to put an alarm out on the Volvo. 502 00:22:43,927 --> 00:22:45,887 - Hour head start, he could be anywhere. 503 00:22:45,929 --> 00:22:48,719 - So he told Charlotte that he wanted to go 504 00:22:48,758 --> 00:22:50,628 on a ride. 505 00:22:50,673 --> 00:22:53,853 I thought that meant a car ride. 506 00:22:53,894 --> 00:22:56,854 Are there any amusement parks nearby? 507 00:22:56,897 --> 00:23:03,897 508 00:23:10,911 --> 00:23:13,441 All right, that's their car! 509 00:23:13,479 --> 00:23:15,739 - Open that trunk. - Let's go. 510 00:23:18,745 --> 00:23:20,565 - Clear! 511 00:23:23,053 --> 00:23:25,013 - This gate's locked, but there's some play here. 512 00:23:25,055 --> 00:23:26,535 They could've slipped through. 513 00:23:34,717 --> 00:23:36,937 - Check the haunted house. Radio if you have eyes. 514 00:23:36,980 --> 00:23:39,510 - Go search these rides. 515 00:23:39,548 --> 00:23:46,558 516 00:24:02,136 --> 00:24:04,436 - No sign of him. 517 00:24:20,502 --> 00:24:22,982 - I may have something at the funhouse. 518 00:24:23,026 --> 00:24:26,026 - Rollins, wait on backup. - Copy that. 519 00:24:26,073 --> 00:24:33,083 520 00:24:57,408 --> 00:24:58,578 Henry. 521 00:25:00,020 --> 00:25:02,020 Henry, let's just talk, okay? 522 00:25:04,546 --> 00:25:06,506 Henry? 523 00:25:07,854 --> 00:25:09,684 Ruby? 524 00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:20,080 - Mom and Dad brought me here once. 525 00:25:21,955 --> 00:25:23,605 - It was before you were born. 526 00:25:23,652 --> 00:25:25,572 - Henry, just let me go. Please. 527 00:25:25,611 --> 00:25:27,791 I won't tell anyone, I swear. 528 00:25:27,830 --> 00:25:29,570 - You're a little liar, Ruby. 529 00:25:29,615 --> 00:25:32,005 You always were a lying, little tattletale. 530 00:25:32,052 --> 00:25:34,662 - Henry, it's Detective Rollins. 531 00:25:34,707 --> 00:25:36,837 - Detective, over here. 532 00:25:36,883 --> 00:25:38,413 I can see you. 533 00:25:41,452 --> 00:25:44,062 - Henry, drop the gun. 534 00:25:44,107 --> 00:25:46,547 - Detective Rollins? Wow. 535 00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:48,498 You're even prettier up close, 536 00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:50,677 and your daughters, they look just like you. 537 00:25:50,723 --> 00:25:52,813 - And you haven't changed a bit, Henry. 538 00:25:54,596 --> 00:25:55,896 Put the gun down. 539 00:25:55,945 --> 00:25:57,685 - It's not like I'm going to hurt her. 540 00:25:57,730 --> 00:26:00,430 - I'd like to believe you, 541 00:26:00,471 --> 00:26:02,131 but you still got your gun to her head. 542 00:26:02,169 --> 00:26:03,779 - And you're still holding yours. 543 00:26:03,823 --> 00:26:05,693 - We can put them down together, 544 00:26:05,738 --> 00:26:07,868 all walk out of here at the same time. 545 00:26:07,914 --> 00:26:09,574 - I'm not really ready to leave. 546 00:26:09,611 --> 00:26:11,051 - That's fine. 547 00:26:11,091 --> 00:26:13,051 Let Ruby go. 548 00:26:13,093 --> 00:26:14,623 We can stay. 549 00:26:16,836 --> 00:26:18,576 - Did Jesse like her gift? 550 00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:20,140 She was so cute. 551 00:26:20,187 --> 00:26:22,537 I asked her for a hug, and she gave me one. 552 00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:23,711 You taught her good manners. 553 00:26:23,756 --> 00:26:25,106 - You know what? 554 00:26:25,148 --> 00:26:26,628 You got about 60 seconds 555 00:26:26,672 --> 00:26:28,112 until a team of ESU comes 556 00:26:28,151 --> 00:26:30,021 crashing in here, wanting to take you out. 557 00:26:30,066 --> 00:26:32,586 Flash grenades, stun guns-- I don't want that to happen. 558 00:26:32,634 --> 00:26:34,644 - You don't? 559 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,200 So you're not mad about Jesse? 560 00:26:37,247 --> 00:26:39,077 You know I wouldn't hurt her. 561 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,509 She wasn't on my list. 562 00:26:41,556 --> 00:26:44,596 - Still, a mom has to protect her kids. 563 00:26:44,646 --> 00:26:46,816 - Not mine. She had me locked up. 564 00:26:46,866 --> 00:26:47,866 - Stop it, Henry. 565 00:26:47,910 --> 00:26:49,700 That wasn't Mom's fault or Dad's. 566 00:26:49,738 --> 00:26:52,088 - You're right. It was all your fault. 567 00:26:52,132 --> 00:26:53,962 You would cry, and the school would call, 568 00:26:54,003 --> 00:26:55,663 and Mom would get mad at me. 569 00:26:55,701 --> 00:26:56,961 I wasn't sorry when she was killed in that car crash. 570 00:26:57,006 --> 00:26:58,486 She deserved it! 571 00:26:58,529 --> 00:27:00,009 - Yeah, I guess she got what was coming, Henry. 572 00:27:01,054 --> 00:27:02,664 You got back at everyone who hurt you. 573 00:27:02,708 --> 00:27:04,138 - Not yet. Not Ruby! 574 00:27:04,187 --> 00:27:06,227 - Henry-- Henry, please don't hurt me. 575 00:27:06,276 --> 00:27:07,756 - God, you always were such a crybaby. 576 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,150 - It's not Ruby's fault. She was five years old. 577 00:27:10,193 --> 00:27:12,853 After you shot my partner, Nick? 578 00:27:14,023 --> 00:27:15,763 It was me who locked you up, 579 00:27:15,808 --> 00:27:17,638 made sure you were put away. 580 00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:20,029 - So it was all your fault! 581 00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:33,480 582 00:27:33,521 --> 00:27:35,441 - Rollins is in there with Henry. 583 00:27:35,479 --> 00:27:38,439 - And Ruby. No shots fired. 584 00:27:38,482 --> 00:27:40,662 - Rollins? Rollins, you there? 585 00:27:43,444 --> 00:27:45,624 Rollins, if you can hear me, 586 00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:47,364 and you're okay, 587 00:27:47,404 --> 00:27:49,584 click your radio. 588 00:27:53,628 --> 00:27:56,198 - Someone's coming out. Move, move. 589 00:27:56,239 --> 00:27:59,239 - Captain, Ruby's on her way out with Henry's gun. 590 00:27:59,286 --> 00:28:00,416 It's unloaded. 591 00:28:00,461 --> 00:28:02,681 - Stand down! Stand down, don't shoot! 592 00:28:03,464 --> 00:28:05,774 - Help! Don't shoot me! 593 00:28:05,814 --> 00:28:08,474 - Come here! - We got her, we got her. 594 00:28:08,512 --> 00:28:10,732 - Ruby, Ruby, are you hurt? 595 00:28:10,776 --> 00:28:12,646 - No. - What's going on in there? 596 00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:13,871 - He didn't want to talk to me anymore. 597 00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:15,519 He wanted to talk with Detective Rollins. 598 00:28:15,563 --> 00:28:18,573 - Okay, Ruby, you are safe. We're gonna get you outta here. 599 00:28:18,609 --> 00:28:19,649 - Rollins? 600 00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:22,528 Rollins, what's going on in there? 601 00:28:22,570 --> 00:28:24,180 Fin, if she doesn't answer me... 602 00:28:24,224 --> 00:28:25,314 - We got State Police coming in 603 00:28:25,355 --> 00:28:26,395 and the Nassau police commissioner. 604 00:28:26,443 --> 00:28:28,143 How experienced is your detective? 605 00:28:28,184 --> 00:28:30,364 - Very. - And the kid's unarmed now. 606 00:28:30,404 --> 00:28:32,364 - Unless he took her gun. 607 00:28:32,406 --> 00:28:34,756 - It's gonna be tough for you to sneak up on somebody 608 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,190 in a house of mirrors. 609 00:28:36,236 --> 00:28:38,586 - We're gonna try and snake some cameras in there. 610 00:28:43,504 --> 00:28:45,684 - Rollins? Henry? 611 00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:48,554 There's no reason for anyone to get hurt. 612 00:28:52,643 --> 00:28:54,523 Rollins, what's your status? 613 00:28:56,822 --> 00:28:58,742 I need you to answer me. 614 00:29:02,523 --> 00:29:05,743 - Captain, just give us a few minutes. 615 00:29:08,137 --> 00:29:10,657 Henry and I are talking. 616 00:29:15,101 --> 00:29:17,581 - Are you in trouble? 617 00:29:17,625 --> 00:29:20,535 - Probably. We don't have much time. 618 00:29:20,584 --> 00:29:24,244 - So what do you want to talk about? 619 00:29:24,284 --> 00:29:27,074 - I don't know. Why'd you come here? 620 00:29:29,724 --> 00:29:32,214 - I had my childhood taken away from me. 621 00:29:32,248 --> 00:29:34,598 I was only ten. 622 00:29:34,642 --> 00:29:37,342 No beaches, no amusement parks. 623 00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:42,218 Just arts and crafts. 624 00:29:42,258 --> 00:29:45,218 Lots of arts and crafts. 625 00:29:45,261 --> 00:29:48,441 - You miss the beach? 626 00:29:48,482 --> 00:29:50,532 - I love the ocean. 627 00:29:50,571 --> 00:29:52,311 You know why? 628 00:29:52,355 --> 00:29:55,095 The ocean doesn't give a crap about you 629 00:29:55,141 --> 00:29:57,191 or anything. 630 00:29:57,230 --> 00:29:58,670 It does what it wants 631 00:29:58,709 --> 00:30:01,149 whenever it wants, 632 00:30:01,190 --> 00:30:03,630 and you have to go along with it. 633 00:30:04,454 --> 00:30:06,634 - What happened here, Henry? 634 00:30:09,285 --> 00:30:11,415 - We came out with this kid, Oscar. 635 00:30:11,461 --> 00:30:12,811 We were six. 636 00:30:12,854 --> 00:30:14,684 Our moms were friends, 637 00:30:14,725 --> 00:30:16,335 hoping we'd be friends too. 638 00:30:16,379 --> 00:30:18,819 - But you weren't. 639 00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:20,560 - He was all right. 640 00:30:20,601 --> 00:30:23,781 I took his hotdog. He didn't tell. 641 00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:26,742 He couldn't swim. 642 00:30:26,781 --> 00:30:28,481 We were playing in the waves, 643 00:30:28,522 --> 00:30:32,482 didn't realize there was deep water at the end of the flats. 644 00:30:32,526 --> 00:30:34,786 We got sucked under a riptide. 645 00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:37,273 I saw Oscar fighting, gasping, 646 00:30:37,313 --> 00:30:39,193 trying to get to shore. 647 00:30:39,228 --> 00:30:42,538 His mom jumped in, lifeguard too. 648 00:30:43,711 --> 00:30:45,671 But Oscar and his mom both drowned. 649 00:30:45,713 --> 00:30:47,853 - That must've been really scary. 650 00:30:49,717 --> 00:30:52,327 - No. 651 00:30:52,372 --> 00:30:55,552 I just did what the ocean wanted me to do, 652 00:30:55,592 --> 00:30:57,812 floated with the tide. 653 00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:00,336 The coastguard found me. 654 00:31:00,380 --> 00:31:02,300 I was a mile away from shore. 655 00:31:02,338 --> 00:31:03,908 My mom was a mess. 656 00:31:03,949 --> 00:31:06,909 - But you were okay. 657 00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:09,522 - More than okay. 658 00:31:09,563 --> 00:31:13,223 That was the first time I knew I was different. 659 00:31:13,262 --> 00:31:15,612 Everyone was so worried about me, 660 00:31:15,656 --> 00:31:17,696 so upset that Oscar and his mom died. 661 00:31:19,703 --> 00:31:22,713 I was just bummed I didn't get to see it. 662 00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:30,667 - Rollins, I know that you two are talking, 663 00:31:30,714 --> 00:31:32,464 but I need an update now. 664 00:31:32,499 --> 00:31:34,979 - ESU stuck pole cams through every HVAC and vent. 665 00:31:35,023 --> 00:31:36,683 - It's a house of mirrors. They're getting frustrated 666 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,160 looking at their own reflections. 667 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,720 They're suiting up. - Yeah, that's because this kid 668 00:31:39,767 --> 00:31:41,507 left a trail of blood from here to the city. 669 00:31:41,551 --> 00:31:43,291 - Give my detective time. 670 00:31:43,336 --> 00:31:44,416 - Not your call, Captain. 671 00:31:44,467 --> 00:31:46,377 My guys are going in in five minutes. 672 00:31:51,561 --> 00:31:52,951 Rollins, so you know, 673 00:31:52,998 --> 00:31:55,258 Nassau ESU is in control. 674 00:31:55,304 --> 00:31:56,484 - You need to answer that? 675 00:31:56,523 --> 00:31:58,873 - Yeah. Knowing how these things go, 676 00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:01,347 ESU is probably about ready to bust in here. 677 00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:05,491 But do you wanna get shot, 678 00:32:05,532 --> 00:32:06,882 or you wanna come with me? 679 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:09,355 - I'm unarmed. They won't shoot me. 680 00:32:09,405 --> 00:32:12,275 - I wouldn't count on that. 681 00:32:12,321 --> 00:32:14,451 If we go out together, 682 00:32:14,497 --> 00:32:15,927 you know, I can protect you. 683 00:32:15,977 --> 00:32:19,807 - Why would you do that? 684 00:32:22,984 --> 00:32:26,604 I remember you as a little boy 685 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,900 in the kitchen 686 00:32:28,947 --> 00:32:30,337 eating strawberries. 687 00:32:30,383 --> 00:32:32,393 - Yeah? 688 00:32:32,428 --> 00:32:35,868 You flinched when I walked by you to go to the refrigerator. 689 00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:38,700 But you didn't leave. - Mm. 690 00:32:40,001 --> 00:32:42,531 I was worried about you, even now. 691 00:32:45,485 --> 00:32:47,875 I don't want you to die. 692 00:32:47,922 --> 00:32:53,282 693 00:32:55,843 --> 00:32:58,593 - Copy, Rollins. They're coming out! 694 00:33:01,501 --> 00:33:02,851 695 00:33:02,893 --> 00:33:05,293 - Okay, don't shoot! Don't shoot. 696 00:33:05,331 --> 00:33:07,381 He's cuffed. 697 00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:09,030 - Nice and slow. 698 00:33:09,074 --> 00:33:11,774 - I couldn't help myself. Just ask her. 699 00:33:11,815 --> 00:33:13,855 I'm not of sound mind. 700 00:33:13,904 --> 00:33:16,304 - You're right. - Let's go. 701 00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:21,907 - What the hell was that? 702 00:33:21,956 --> 00:33:23,256 - You know a part of me 703 00:33:23,305 --> 00:33:25,085 likes to squirrel around in these guys' brains, 704 00:33:25,133 --> 00:33:28,013 trying to figure out what's going on in there. 705 00:33:28,049 --> 00:33:29,699 - Did you get anything? 706 00:33:29,746 --> 00:33:34,356 - This spree is all he's been thinking about for eight years. 707 00:33:34,403 --> 00:33:36,453 Wherever Henry ends up, 708 00:33:36,492 --> 00:33:39,102 they need to throw away the key. 709 00:33:40,844 --> 00:33:47,854 710 00:33:54,075 --> 00:33:57,115 - Death is closer to life than people think. 711 00:33:57,165 --> 00:33:58,425 All that blood you have pumping 712 00:33:58,471 --> 00:34:00,561 right underneath the surface of your skin... 713 00:34:00,603 --> 00:34:02,873 I could bite your neck right now. 714 00:34:02,910 --> 00:34:05,430 By the time they got in here, it would be too late. 715 00:34:07,436 --> 00:34:08,996 - You're right, Henry. 716 00:34:09,047 --> 00:34:11,877 But you mostly get mad at people 717 00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:14,839 who judge you. I-I'm not judging you. 718 00:34:14,878 --> 00:34:16,578 - You're not? 719 00:34:16,619 --> 00:34:18,839 Then why are you here? 720 00:34:18,882 --> 00:34:20,282 - Like I said at the beginning, 721 00:34:20,319 --> 00:34:22,359 I'm trying to understand how we got here, 722 00:34:22,408 --> 00:34:24,148 what you think happened. 723 00:34:24,192 --> 00:34:26,112 - You mean my mental state? 724 00:34:26,151 --> 00:34:27,941 Well, according to the State of New York, 725 00:34:27,978 --> 00:34:29,238 as of four months ago, 726 00:34:29,284 --> 00:34:32,074 I was no longer a danger to myself or others. 727 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,249 Now do you think they made the right decision? 728 00:34:41,862 --> 00:34:44,042 - My opinion, 729 00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:46,952 whoever let this kid out should have their license revoked. 730 00:34:46,997 --> 00:34:48,427 - Hindsight's 20/20, Doctor, 731 00:34:48,477 --> 00:34:50,437 but is he competent to stand trial? 732 00:34:50,479 --> 00:34:52,129 - That's a complicated question. 733 00:34:52,177 --> 00:34:54,957 Ethically, morally-- - But legally. 734 00:34:55,005 --> 00:34:56,955 He knows where he is. He knows what he's done. 735 00:34:57,007 --> 00:34:59,447 - He's capable of participating in his own defense. 736 00:34:59,488 --> 00:35:02,398 - I'm aware of the legal parameters, 737 00:35:02,448 --> 00:35:04,228 but I also know 738 00:35:04,276 --> 00:35:06,836 Henry was two standard deviations 739 00:35:06,887 --> 00:35:08,977 outside the normal range 740 00:35:09,019 --> 00:35:12,589 for callous, unemotional behavior when he was ten. 741 00:35:12,632 --> 00:35:16,292 A psychopath's brain is different, probably from birth. 742 00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:19,940 The defense may argue 743 00:35:19,987 --> 00:35:22,467 that his personality disorder affects his sanity. 744 00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:24,301 - Well, right, not guilty by reason of insanity. 745 00:35:24,339 --> 00:35:26,299 That's their prerogative when this goes to trial. 746 00:35:26,341 --> 00:35:27,471 - You ask me, even that's a stretch. 747 00:35:27,516 --> 00:35:30,386 He knew what he was doing was wrong, 748 00:35:30,432 --> 00:35:33,002 and he didn't care. It's all on him. 749 00:35:33,043 --> 00:35:34,313 - Is it? 750 00:35:34,349 --> 00:35:37,139 Henry's been institutionalized half his life. 751 00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:39,308 Then he gets returned to the family 752 00:35:39,354 --> 00:35:40,924 that he thinks imprisoned him there. 753 00:35:40,964 --> 00:35:42,884 I mean, sending him home-- 754 00:35:42,923 --> 00:35:46,323 - Is like pouring gasoline and then lighting a match. 755 00:35:46,361 --> 00:35:48,411 - And I'm sure his defense will bring that up as well. 756 00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:49,500 They'll put the State on trial. 757 00:35:49,538 --> 00:35:51,148 - Please, no. 758 00:35:51,192 --> 00:35:52,192 No! 759 00:35:52,237 --> 00:35:55,497 No, he gets to go on spring break, 760 00:35:55,544 --> 00:35:57,024 settle up a bunch of scores, 761 00:35:57,067 --> 00:35:59,027 and then go back to group therapy 762 00:35:59,069 --> 00:36:00,589 with his friends at Camp Hesland? 763 00:36:00,636 --> 00:36:02,196 - I understand, Detective. 764 00:36:02,247 --> 00:36:05,247 You and society want to see Henry punished, 765 00:36:05,293 --> 00:36:07,693 but locking up someone who's mentally ill... 766 00:36:07,730 --> 00:36:10,650 I've been to prisons where there's one psychologist 767 00:36:10,690 --> 00:36:12,610 responsible for over 500 men. 768 00:36:12,648 --> 00:36:14,688 I mean, we're no better off than the dark ages. 769 00:36:14,737 --> 00:36:17,387 - Doc, we can go down this road, 770 00:36:17,436 --> 00:36:19,306 but for today, I just need your assertion 771 00:36:19,351 --> 00:36:21,311 that Henry's competent to stand trial. 772 00:36:24,269 --> 00:36:26,009 - He is, 773 00:36:26,053 --> 00:36:28,013 but that question is exactly the problem. 774 00:36:29,970 --> 00:36:32,190 - I need some fresh air. 775 00:36:33,278 --> 00:36:35,928 - I'll go with her. 776 00:36:40,589 --> 00:36:43,239 - How are you doing, Olivia? It's been a tough year. 777 00:36:43,288 --> 00:36:46,378 - It has been, and-- 778 00:36:46,421 --> 00:36:48,081 but I'm lucky, you know? 779 00:36:48,118 --> 00:36:51,378 My Noah is okay; my squad is healthy. 780 00:36:51,426 --> 00:36:53,386 - And things with you and Detective Stabler? 781 00:36:54,647 --> 00:36:56,687 - Your message. You said he reappeared-- 782 00:36:56,736 --> 00:36:58,996 - Out of nowhere. 783 00:36:59,042 --> 00:37:01,392 And that's, uh-- 784 00:37:01,436 --> 00:37:03,526 that's been a lot to process. 785 00:37:03,569 --> 00:37:06,399 - I could understand why you'd want an appointment, 786 00:37:06,441 --> 00:37:08,271 and I really look forward to it. 787 00:37:08,313 --> 00:37:11,273 - Yeah. Me too. 788 00:37:14,319 --> 00:37:21,019 789 00:37:21,064 --> 00:37:23,764 - The intersection of the law and psychiatry 790 00:37:23,806 --> 00:37:25,626 is inherently complex. 791 00:37:25,678 --> 00:37:28,678 Where law is objective, looking at guilt or innocence, 792 00:37:28,724 --> 00:37:30,384 psychiatry is subjective, Your Honor-- 793 00:37:30,422 --> 00:37:33,162 - Dr. Lindstrom, no disrespect, 794 00:37:33,207 --> 00:37:35,247 it is your opinion that Henry Mesner 795 00:37:35,296 --> 00:37:36,596 is competent to stand trial? 796 00:37:36,645 --> 00:37:39,295 797 00:37:39,344 --> 00:37:42,304 - It is, Your Honor. - You may step down. 798 00:37:42,347 --> 00:37:49,307 799 00:37:49,354 --> 00:37:52,144 - Having heard testimony from all relevant parties, 800 00:37:52,182 --> 00:37:53,792 and reviewed the psychiatric reports 801 00:37:53,836 --> 00:37:56,446 submitted by the defense and the prosecution, 802 00:37:56,491 --> 00:37:58,321 it is the ruling of this court 803 00:37:58,363 --> 00:38:00,153 that the defendant, Henry Mesner, 804 00:38:00,190 --> 00:38:02,320 is capable of participating in his own defense 805 00:38:02,367 --> 00:38:04,457 and competent to stand trial. 806 00:38:04,499 --> 00:38:05,589 - Thank you, Your Honor. 807 00:38:05,631 --> 00:38:07,241 The People move to set a trial date. 808 00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:09,455 - For the record, we will be changing our plea to not guilty 809 00:38:09,504 --> 00:38:12,204 by reason of insanity. Four months ago, 810 00:38:12,246 --> 00:38:15,206 my client was deemed no longer a danger to himself or others, 811 00:38:15,249 --> 00:38:17,339 and this was tragically untrue. 812 00:38:17,382 --> 00:38:19,652 Is it the State's intention to convince a jury 813 00:38:19,688 --> 00:38:21,078 that, given the events of the last week, 814 00:38:21,124 --> 00:38:22,604 they stand by that decision? 815 00:38:22,648 --> 00:38:25,348 - Counselor, not today. Save it for the jury. 816 00:38:26,434 --> 00:38:28,484 - You're being very rude to my lawyer. 817 00:38:28,523 --> 00:38:30,663 - That's enough, Mr. Mesner. - Let her finish. 818 00:38:30,699 --> 00:38:32,049 - Sit down, Mr. Mesner. 819 00:38:32,092 --> 00:38:33,052 - Henry, get back. - No one listens to me. 820 00:38:33,093 --> 00:38:34,183 - Henry, stop. 821 00:38:34,224 --> 00:38:35,184 - I said that no one listens to me! 822 00:38:35,225 --> 00:38:36,395 - Order! - 823 00:38:36,444 --> 00:38:37,664 - Stop--bailiffs, secure the defendant now! 824 00:38:39,273 --> 00:38:40,673 - Get him out of here! 825 00:38:40,709 --> 00:38:43,149 - I want my daddy! 826 00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:45,500 - Get him out of here now. - I said I want my daddy! 827 00:38:45,540 --> 00:38:46,630 Help! Help please! 828 00:38:46,672 --> 00:38:48,502 - Call an ambulance! - I want my daddy! 829 00:38:48,543 --> 00:38:50,503 - I'm okay. 830 00:38:52,678 --> 00:38:54,068 - I'll be back with your discharge paperwork 831 00:38:54,114 --> 00:38:55,464 and prescriptions. 832 00:38:55,507 --> 00:38:56,677 The doctor says you're a lucky man, Mr. Carisi. 833 00:38:56,725 --> 00:38:58,205 - By which she means I got small ears. 834 00:38:58,248 --> 00:39:00,118 - - Hey, you doing okay? 835 00:39:00,163 --> 00:39:01,773 - I'll live. 836 00:39:01,817 --> 00:39:04,207 I don't know how, but he just missed puncturing my eardrum. 837 00:39:04,254 --> 00:39:05,654 - Jesus. 838 00:39:05,691 --> 00:39:07,211 So what happens to Henry now? 839 00:39:07,257 --> 00:39:08,607 - The judge remanded him. 840 00:39:08,650 --> 00:39:10,390 He'll be medicated until he's deemed competent. 841 00:39:10,435 --> 00:39:13,215 - So he just keeps getting what he wants. 842 00:39:13,263 --> 00:39:16,273 Go back to a mental facility. 843 00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:18,230 I mean, he only stabbed you in the ear 844 00:39:18,268 --> 00:39:19,878 to prove to the judge that he's crazy. 845 00:39:19,922 --> 00:39:22,102 - Either way, he's still gonna stand trial, 846 00:39:22,142 --> 00:39:23,192 you know, whether or not he meets 847 00:39:23,230 --> 00:39:25,670 the legal definition of insanity. 848 00:39:25,711 --> 00:39:27,541 He killed his stepmother... - 849 00:39:27,582 --> 00:39:28,712 - His own father. 850 00:39:28,757 --> 00:39:31,587 He killed his 5-year-old brother. 851 00:39:31,630 --> 00:39:34,420 If he's not crazy, 852 00:39:34,459 --> 00:39:36,329 then no one is. 853 00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:46,377 854 00:39:59,266 --> 00:40:01,616 - How are you, Henry? 855 00:40:03,618 --> 00:40:07,358 They got you pretty drugged up, huh? 856 00:40:07,405 --> 00:40:10,445 Now you can pretend you can't hear me, but I know you can, 857 00:40:10,495 --> 00:40:13,885 and I've got something I wanna tell you. 858 00:40:13,933 --> 00:40:16,373 When I told you that I didn't want you to die... 859 00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:18,334 860 00:40:18,372 --> 00:40:21,382 I lied. 861 00:40:22,855 --> 00:40:25,595 If you ever get out of here... 862 00:40:29,383 --> 00:40:31,303 If you go after Counselor Carisi 863 00:40:31,341 --> 00:40:33,651 or anyone in my family again, 864 00:40:33,692 --> 00:40:36,482 it will be your last day on Earth. 865 00:40:36,521 --> 00:40:39,611 866 00:40:39,654 --> 00:40:42,664 I'll kill you myself. 867 00:40:42,701 --> 00:40:49,711 868 00:41:07,377 --> 00:41:14,377 58553

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