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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,670 --> 00:00:20,330 With your index finger, I want you to touch your nose. 2 00:00:21,469 --> 00:00:23,023 Do it with each side. 3 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:29,131 All right, get your hands out of your pockets. 4 00:00:29,132 --> 00:00:30,858 Don't touch the wall. 5 00:00:34,724 --> 00:00:37,519 One, two, three, four, five. 6 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,039 Five, four, three, two, one. 7 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,765 All right, very good, have a seat. 8 00:00:52,638 --> 00:00:54,329 If it is your second DWI, 9 00:00:54,330 --> 00:00:57,264 your license will be suspended for up to a year. 10 00:00:58,506 --> 00:01:00,060 Oh. I, I'm gonna, 11 00:01:01,268 --> 00:01:02,200 I'm gonna go to the bathroom. 12 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:02,959 You gotta go to the bathroom? 13 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,960 Yeah. 14 00:01:03,961 --> 00:01:05,443 - You gonna get sick? - No. 15 00:01:05,444 --> 00:01:06,445 All right. 16 00:02:05,435 --> 00:02:06,781 Let's go, Kevin. 17 00:02:18,552 --> 00:02:19,552 Oh, shit. 18 00:03:42,291 --> 00:03:47,296 Prisoner is loose in the building. 19 00:03:50,264 --> 00:03:52,265 Good morning, everybody. 20 00:03:52,266 --> 00:03:54,268 KTRX AM 440, Des Moines. 21 00:03:55,235 --> 00:03:57,097 It is just before 6:00 a.m. 22 00:03:57,098 --> 00:03:58,513 Skies are cloudy. 23 00:03:58,514 --> 00:04:02,345 And Tom Thompson, a mechanic from Marshalltown... 24 00:04:37,242 --> 00:04:42,247 ♫ We walked along the shadows 25 00:04:43,144 --> 00:04:47,701 ♫ Later in the afternoon 26 00:04:51,636 --> 00:04:56,641 ♫ We stood a lot like strangers ♫ 27 00:04:57,883 --> 00:05:00,886 ♫ And the sunlight rushing through ♫ 28 00:05:02,060 --> 00:05:04,233 Socrates is quoted as saying, 29 00:05:04,234 --> 00:05:08,203 "Nothing is to be preferred before justice." 30 00:05:08,204 --> 00:05:10,619 It's what we seek when we're wronged. 31 00:05:10,620 --> 00:05:14,382 But like all philosophy, this is simply a hypothesis. 32 00:05:14,383 --> 00:05:16,591 Monday started out like any other day, 33 00:05:16,592 --> 00:05:20,595 wake up, kiss my wife Nancy, run three miles. 34 00:05:20,596 --> 00:05:22,908 My mind was sharp, my body agile. 35 00:05:23,771 --> 00:05:25,289 But since I passed the bar, 36 00:05:25,290 --> 00:05:28,465 I just needed a couple of easy victories to keep me going, 37 00:05:28,466 --> 00:05:29,880 to keep truth on my side. 38 00:05:29,881 --> 00:05:30,985 - Good morning. - Hi. 39 00:05:33,298 --> 00:05:36,025 ♫ Till I pass by 40 00:05:37,233 --> 00:05:39,477 Gracey, anybody get hurt today? 41 00:05:40,995 --> 00:05:42,133 Every day, boss. 42 00:05:42,134 --> 00:05:43,860 You have three messages on your desk. 43 00:05:44,827 --> 00:05:45,827 Only three? 44 00:05:47,864 --> 00:05:50,038 In the last year, I had come to believe 45 00:05:50,039 --> 00:05:52,074 that the only way to keep my head above water 46 00:05:52,075 --> 00:05:53,317 was to take cases 47 00:05:53,318 --> 00:05:55,803 where I had to set my own moral beliefs aside. 48 00:05:57,046 --> 00:05:58,564 And here I am. 49 00:05:58,565 --> 00:06:00,462 Three miles every day, 50 00:06:00,463 --> 00:06:03,362 trying to convince myself that it's all worth it. 51 00:06:03,363 --> 00:06:04,880 Jury, have you reached a verdict? 52 00:06:04,881 --> 00:06:06,537 Yes, Your Honor, we have. 53 00:06:06,538 --> 00:06:08,297 How do you find the defendant? 54 00:06:08,298 --> 00:06:09,920 Not liable, Your Honor. 55 00:06:09,921 --> 00:06:13,027 Case dismissed. 56 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,381 Look, I'm sorry. 57 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:24,003 They're lying, can't you see that? 58 00:06:24,004 --> 00:06:25,385 I know, I know. 59 00:06:28,215 --> 00:06:30,630 Can I give you some bus fare home? 60 00:06:30,631 --> 00:06:31,943 You gotta be kidding me. 61 00:06:40,296 --> 00:06:42,331 His name's Otis. 62 00:06:42,332 --> 00:06:43,712 Who's that, the owner? 63 00:06:43,713 --> 00:06:44,713 Yeah. 64 00:06:46,578 --> 00:06:47,578 Otis. 65 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:51,341 Look at these. 66 00:06:52,929 --> 00:06:54,724 Which one's real, which one's fake? 67 00:06:56,519 --> 00:06:57,519 Hmm. 68 00:06:58,935 --> 00:07:01,420 Well, uh, they're both zircons. 69 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:02,594 Fuckin' worthless, man. 70 00:07:03,768 --> 00:07:05,389 Come on, man, nobody can tell the difference. 71 00:07:05,390 --> 00:07:07,668 You know, it's like a Lincoln from a Cadillac. 72 00:07:08,876 --> 00:07:10,705 Look, we go on the road with this shit, 73 00:07:10,706 --> 00:07:12,327 we're make us a fortune. 74 00:07:12,328 --> 00:07:13,328 How do you know? 75 00:07:14,295 --> 00:07:15,296 Know what? 76 00:07:16,712 --> 00:07:19,161 The difference between a Lincoln and a Cadillac? 77 00:07:19,162 --> 00:07:22,337 My dad drives a Cadillac, and it ain't no fuckin' Lincoln. 78 00:07:22,338 --> 00:07:26,203 All I'm saying is I want us to be partners, okay? 79 00:07:26,204 --> 00:07:29,102 I'll take care of you, don't worry about a thing. 80 00:07:29,103 --> 00:07:31,312 Yeah, boy, you don't believe me? 81 00:07:33,349 --> 00:07:34,626 I don't trust you, Eric. 82 00:07:37,215 --> 00:07:38,319 Who pays your bills? 83 00:07:39,493 --> 00:07:41,011 Me. 84 00:07:41,012 --> 00:07:43,254 Who sits up with you all night long when you're depressed? 85 00:07:43,255 --> 00:07:45,222 Me, and you don't trust me? 86 00:07:45,223 --> 00:07:46,637 Kevin, come on. 87 00:07:46,638 --> 00:07:47,812 You patronize me. 88 00:07:50,435 --> 00:07:52,331 You tell me all the things you think I wanna hear, 89 00:07:52,332 --> 00:07:53,334 and then you use me. 90 00:07:55,026 --> 00:07:56,716 I mean, you still haven't fuckin' paid me. 91 00:07:56,717 --> 00:07:58,787 I sold two grand worth of shit for you, and I want my cut. 92 00:07:58,788 --> 00:07:59,995 All right, take it. 93 00:07:59,996 --> 00:08:01,238 You sell, keep whatever you want. 94 00:08:01,239 --> 00:08:02,481 They're fucking worthless, man. 95 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:03,931 They're zircons, I just said that. 96 00:08:10,144 --> 00:08:11,145 Come here. 97 00:08:12,906 --> 00:08:13,907 Kevin, come on. 98 00:08:16,979 --> 00:08:17,979 Hey. 99 00:08:20,707 --> 00:08:22,122 You used to be so different. 100 00:08:29,785 --> 00:08:31,510 You were still a virgin when I met you. 101 00:08:31,511 --> 00:08:32,753 Oh, fuck you, man. 102 00:08:38,655 --> 00:08:41,174 Nobody's gonna see, come on. 103 00:08:42,313 --> 00:08:43,937 I'll give you your money, I will. 104 00:08:47,527 --> 00:08:50,460 Put your fuckin' dick away, Eric. 105 00:08:52,428 --> 00:08:53,774 Kevin, I'm sorry, man. 106 00:08:56,846 --> 00:08:57,846 Jeez. 107 00:09:04,026 --> 00:09:05,992 Look, it's only your third case. 108 00:09:05,993 --> 00:09:09,582 Man, you can get your ass handed to you in personal injury. 109 00:09:09,583 --> 00:09:13,068 Wow, now I'm getting advice from my paralegal? 110 00:09:13,069 --> 00:09:15,450 Yeah, with six years experience in the courtroom, 111 00:09:15,451 --> 00:09:16,452 as you know. 112 00:09:17,971 --> 00:09:20,041 Besides, I only have to pass the bar. 113 00:09:20,042 --> 00:09:22,043 Iowa bar is tough. 114 00:09:22,044 --> 00:09:24,942 Yeah, how many times you take it? 115 00:09:24,943 --> 00:09:27,427 Once, first to finish. 116 00:09:27,428 --> 00:09:28,257 Liar. 117 00:09:28,258 --> 00:09:29,740 Mm-hmm. 118 00:09:29,741 --> 00:09:32,812 Wow, that's not bad for a philosophy major. 119 00:09:32,813 --> 00:09:34,227 You know, you never did tell me 120 00:09:34,228 --> 00:09:36,678 how you went from Socrates to the penal code. 121 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,956 It's not that much of a leap, really. 122 00:09:38,957 --> 00:09:40,820 I mean, it goes back to the Romans. 123 00:09:40,821 --> 00:09:42,477 Plato wrote whole volumes of law 124 00:09:42,478 --> 00:09:44,686 for the King of Syracuse in Greece. 125 00:09:44,687 --> 00:09:46,550 Law is built on theory. 126 00:09:46,551 --> 00:09:48,310 Sure, what's right and wrong. 127 00:09:48,311 --> 00:09:49,243 Exactly, all right. 128 00:09:49,244 --> 00:09:50,727 Take, for example, today. 129 00:09:50,728 --> 00:09:54,178 Our client completely refused a field sobriety test, 130 00:09:54,179 --> 00:09:56,905 he refused arrest, and he got smacked for it. 131 00:09:56,906 --> 00:09:59,425 Now, do I agree with what the cops did? 132 00:09:59,426 --> 00:10:00,633 No. 133 00:10:00,634 --> 00:10:03,118 It's that manipulation, that balance of power 134 00:10:03,119 --> 00:10:05,224 that made me wanna become a lawyer. 135 00:10:05,225 --> 00:10:06,985 We're the great equalizers, Monica. 136 00:10:08,124 --> 00:10:10,470 It's not my third case. 137 00:10:10,471 --> 00:10:11,920 - I know. - Right. 138 00:10:11,921 --> 00:10:13,164 It's your fourth. 139 00:10:15,476 --> 00:10:19,479 Look, honestly, you've got to play the jury more. 140 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,309 I mean, right and wrong 141 00:10:21,310 --> 00:10:23,587 is something they decide in their gut. 142 00:10:23,588 --> 00:10:25,624 You can't expect them to absorb all those facts. 143 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:28,730 They need a hook, you know, something to grasp. 144 00:10:28,731 --> 00:10:31,388 The jury today bought that cop's story. 145 00:10:31,389 --> 00:10:33,493 Especially juror number four. 146 00:10:33,494 --> 00:10:36,255 Yeah, well, foreman's usually a dominant white male. 147 00:10:36,256 --> 00:10:39,499 And, nobody wants to believe that cops hurt innocent people. 148 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:41,294 Nobody, not even me. 149 00:10:41,295 --> 00:10:43,987 All right, no more police brutality cases. 150 00:10:43,988 --> 00:10:45,851 They're impossible to win, I'm serious. 151 00:10:45,852 --> 00:10:47,439 - You're the boss. - Yes, I am. 152 00:10:48,855 --> 00:10:51,891 I gotta go study for that brutal Iowa bar. 153 00:10:51,892 --> 00:10:53,168 Yes, you do. 154 00:10:53,169 --> 00:10:55,205 And when I pass, I expect a raise. 155 00:10:55,206 --> 00:10:58,657 Counselor, we need to win a couple of cases first. 156 00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:00,106 Don't think too much. 157 00:11:00,107 --> 00:11:01,556 It's not good for you. 158 00:11:01,557 --> 00:11:03,454 Thanks, appreciate that. 159 00:11:03,455 --> 00:11:05,043 - Nighty-night. - Nighty-night. 160 00:11:07,874 --> 00:11:08,806 I got it. 161 00:11:08,807 --> 00:11:11,117 I got your car. 162 00:11:11,118 --> 00:11:13,706 Hey, look who's home late again. 163 00:11:13,707 --> 00:11:15,121 Hey, Daddy. 164 00:11:15,122 --> 00:11:16,122 Hey, buddy. 165 00:11:18,470 --> 00:11:19,678 Where's Bert? 166 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,335 Bert and Clark had a little fight. 167 00:11:30,206 --> 00:11:31,379 Any blood shed? 168 00:11:31,380 --> 00:11:32,621 Bert was mean to me. 169 00:11:32,622 --> 00:11:34,554 Bert's in his room. 170 00:11:34,555 --> 00:11:35,555 Hmm. 171 00:11:38,387 --> 00:11:41,079 Whoa, whoa, whoa, you gotta give his mommy a kiss first. 172 00:11:45,705 --> 00:11:46,705 Honey, what's wrong? 173 00:11:49,018 --> 00:11:50,985 What do you think? 174 00:11:50,986 --> 00:11:51,986 You lost? 175 00:11:56,025 --> 00:11:57,785 I'll go talk to Bert. 176 00:11:57,786 --> 00:11:58,786 Okay. 177 00:12:13,111 --> 00:12:14,111 Whoosh. 178 00:12:20,809 --> 00:12:21,810 Tough day, partner? 179 00:12:23,121 --> 00:12:24,743 What happened? 180 00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:26,261 Well, we were playing cars, 181 00:12:26,262 --> 00:12:29,609 and I wanted to race them to see who was the fastest. 182 00:12:29,610 --> 00:12:31,025 And I started to race them, 183 00:12:31,026 --> 00:12:34,787 and Clark tried to stop me, and I hit him. 184 00:12:34,788 --> 00:12:38,550 Oh, well, you're his big brother, Bert. 185 00:12:40,414 --> 00:12:42,795 You know, you gotta protect him 186 00:12:42,796 --> 00:12:44,556 'cause that's what big brothers do, 187 00:12:45,868 --> 00:12:47,627 okay, bud? Okay. 188 00:12:47,628 --> 00:12:49,113 - I love you. - Love you, too. 189 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:53,012 All right, so I am gonna send Mommy in, 190 00:12:53,013 --> 00:12:54,634 and she'll bring some milk, 191 00:12:54,635 --> 00:12:57,120 but I don't want any more fighting, okay? 192 00:12:57,121 --> 00:12:58,087 Okay. 193 00:12:58,088 --> 00:12:59,191 - Promise? - Yes. 194 00:12:59,192 --> 00:13:00,272 - Okay, night, bud. - Night. 195 00:13:06,855 --> 00:13:08,407 The contestants came 196 00:13:08,408 --> 00:13:10,271 from all over the country, driving all sort of cars... 197 00:13:10,272 --> 00:13:11,411 Did you talk to him? 198 00:13:15,277 --> 00:13:18,349 Stu, did you talk to him? He's okay. 199 00:13:19,384 --> 00:13:20,523 He's a good boy. 200 00:13:21,766 --> 00:13:23,940 Maybe Bert and Clark shouldn't share a room. 201 00:13:23,941 --> 00:13:24,804 Why not? 202 00:13:24,805 --> 00:13:26,287 They fight constantly. 203 00:13:26,288 --> 00:13:28,669 Yeah, well, they have to learn how to get along, 204 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,500 how to make compromises. 205 00:13:34,192 --> 00:13:36,677 Can you take Bert to soccer practice on Friday? 206 00:13:39,473 --> 00:13:41,889 I just, 207 00:13:41,890 --> 00:13:44,443 I just thought this was open and shut case. 208 00:13:44,444 --> 00:13:48,966 I mean, now the guy has got no job, 209 00:13:50,208 --> 00:13:51,208 no income, 210 00:13:53,694 --> 00:13:54,694 and no car. 211 00:14:07,260 --> 00:14:09,710 Hey, sweetie, can't you wait until dinner, huh? 212 00:14:10,780 --> 00:14:12,022 And go put on a shirt 213 00:14:12,023 --> 00:14:13,299 before you sit down at the table, okay, hun? 214 00:14:13,300 --> 00:14:14,300 Yes, ma'am. 215 00:14:15,475 --> 00:14:16,475 Stop it. 216 00:14:16,476 --> 00:14:17,717 Get out of here, get out of here. 217 00:14:17,718 --> 00:14:19,202 You're going out tonight, aren't you? 218 00:14:19,203 --> 00:14:21,342 Oh, come on, you're hardly ever home anymore. 219 00:14:21,343 --> 00:14:23,655 I'm 21 years old, guys, don't worry. 220 00:14:24,898 --> 00:14:25,865 It's my job to worry. 221 00:14:25,866 --> 00:14:27,142 It's in the Mom handbook. 222 00:14:29,627 --> 00:14:31,076 I'm driving up to Marshalltown. 223 00:14:31,077 --> 00:14:31,905 Really? 224 00:14:31,905 --> 00:14:32,768 To see who? 225 00:14:32,768 --> 00:14:33,768 Nobody. 226 00:14:37,221 --> 00:14:40,188 ♫ He's got a girlfriend in Marshalltown ♫ 227 00:14:40,189 --> 00:14:41,396 No. 228 00:14:41,397 --> 00:14:43,640 I mean, you know, there are girls there, 229 00:14:43,641 --> 00:14:46,299 just none of them happen to be my girlfriend. 230 00:14:50,475 --> 00:14:51,890 What do you think, Dad? 231 00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:53,857 You think the girls are prettier here, or in Marshalltown? 232 00:14:53,858 --> 00:14:55,134 I think the prettiest girl in the world 233 00:14:55,135 --> 00:14:57,897 is sitting right at this table right now. 234 00:14:58,759 --> 00:14:59,759 Oh, you. 235 00:15:01,970 --> 00:15:05,144 Hey, you really wanna drive an hour 236 00:15:05,145 --> 00:15:07,077 all the up to Marshalltown? 237 00:15:07,078 --> 00:15:08,527 It's an hour, it's fine. 238 00:15:08,528 --> 00:15:10,770 I mean, this guy Eric lives up there, I know him. 239 00:15:10,771 --> 00:15:12,186 He owes me some money. 240 00:15:12,187 --> 00:15:14,258 And some people are meeting up at a bar, okay? 241 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:18,917 What? 242 00:15:22,507 --> 00:15:25,820 Okay, I'll have three beers. 243 00:15:25,821 --> 00:15:27,236 Four, if they're lights. 244 00:15:29,929 --> 00:15:32,516 I mean, you guys really think I want another DWI? 245 00:15:32,517 --> 00:15:35,692 - I should hope not. - Well, just call, 246 00:15:35,693 --> 00:15:37,350 call, you hear? Okay, I know. 247 00:15:38,661 --> 00:15:41,215 Sure, Mom. Hey, what about me? 248 00:15:41,216 --> 00:15:42,699 What about you? 249 00:15:42,700 --> 00:15:44,529 Yeah, I have to hold back. 250 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:47,705 I wanna bite him. 251 00:16:32,129 --> 00:16:33,509 Not here, leave a message. 252 00:16:34,545 --> 00:16:35,545 Eric, pick up. 253 00:16:38,963 --> 00:16:40,757 You know what? 254 00:16:40,758 --> 00:16:42,000 You know what, man? 255 00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:44,140 I mean, I'd call you a loser and a liar, 256 00:16:44,141 --> 00:16:46,349 but I think you know what a piece of shit you are. 257 00:16:46,350 --> 00:16:49,283 I mean, you can't even pay me what you owe me. 258 00:16:49,284 --> 00:16:50,767 You know, what kind of fuckin' man does that make you? 259 00:16:50,768 --> 00:16:52,010 So you know what? 260 00:16:52,011 --> 00:16:53,873 By the way, I'm at the bar here by myself, 261 00:16:53,874 --> 00:16:54,875 you fuckin' asshole. 262 00:17:36,676 --> 00:17:38,264 Excuse me, sorry. 263 00:17:46,168 --> 00:17:47,411 Why are you so sad? 264 00:17:52,174 --> 00:17:53,174 I'm not sad. 265 00:17:55,626 --> 00:17:58,042 I'm Cara, with a C. 266 00:18:00,838 --> 00:18:04,635 I'm Kevin, with a K. 267 00:18:09,674 --> 00:18:11,262 You wanna play some pool? 268 00:18:12,539 --> 00:18:15,232 No, I'm no good at pool. 269 00:18:16,509 --> 00:18:20,099 Plus, if I lost, I'd feel really stupid. 270 00:18:21,583 --> 00:18:23,102 Well, what if I let you win? 271 00:18:28,210 --> 00:18:29,418 You got a girlfriend? 272 00:18:32,180 --> 00:18:33,905 You know, that's the second time 273 00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:37,149 someone's asked me that question today. 274 00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:38,979 No, no, I don't. 275 00:18:39,911 --> 00:18:42,327 Do you have a girlfriend? 276 00:18:42,328 --> 00:18:44,123 No. 277 00:18:45,676 --> 00:18:47,471 I don't have a boyfriend, either. 278 00:18:52,855 --> 00:18:56,306 I, I need to, I need to go. 279 00:18:56,307 --> 00:18:57,895 Oh, wait, wait, um, 280 00:19:00,415 --> 00:19:01,415 here. 281 00:19:10,252 --> 00:19:11,288 Promise you'll call? 282 00:19:15,257 --> 00:19:17,500 Yeah, I promise. 283 00:19:17,501 --> 00:19:18,501 Okay. 284 00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:16,215 ♫ Oh 285 00:20:18,596 --> 00:20:19,907 ♫ All right 286 00:20:19,908 --> 00:20:21,667 ♫ And it's believin' 287 00:20:21,668 --> 00:20:23,600 ♫ Don't be shy 288 00:20:23,601 --> 00:20:24,464 ♫ You know me 289 00:20:24,465 --> 00:20:27,225 ♫ I'm on your side 290 00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,227 ♫ Public deceiver 291 00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:31,125 ♫ Take a hike 292 00:20:31,126 --> 00:20:34,956 ♫ We don't want you or your lies ♫ 293 00:20:34,957 --> 00:20:36,889 ♫ Do you believe it 294 00:20:36,890 --> 00:20:40,445 ♫ You're just saying 295 00:20:40,446 --> 00:20:41,549 Shit. 296 00:20:41,550 --> 00:20:42,550 Oh, shit. 297 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:52,457 ♫ Do you believe in love 298 00:20:52,458 --> 00:20:56,219 ♫ Do you believe in love 299 00:20:56,220 --> 00:21:01,121 ♫ Do you believe in love 300 00:21:18,311 --> 00:21:21,728 Thomas, honey, get the phone. 301 00:21:24,455 --> 00:21:25,455 Hello? 302 00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:28,701 Yes, this is he. Who is it? 303 00:21:30,737 --> 00:21:31,737 Which hospital? 304 00:21:32,946 --> 00:21:34,499 - Thomas? - It's him. 305 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:35,500 What? 306 00:21:36,985 --> 00:21:38,020 I don't understand. 307 00:21:38,952 --> 00:21:40,057 What press release? 308 00:21:41,403 --> 00:21:44,302 Well, what can you tell me? 309 00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:45,303 Kevin. 310 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:47,305 Kevin. 311 00:21:47,306 --> 00:21:48,478 Beverly? 312 00:21:48,479 --> 00:21:50,274 Thomas, he's not here. 313 00:22:08,741 --> 00:22:11,018 Anybody get hurt today, Grace? 314 00:22:11,019 --> 00:22:13,572 You have an appointment with the Thackers. 315 00:22:13,573 --> 00:22:15,022 I'm sorry, who? 316 00:22:15,023 --> 00:22:16,299 Thomas and Beverly Thacker at 10:30. 317 00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:17,888 Thackers, thank you. 318 00:22:32,523 --> 00:22:35,077 Ahem, Thomas and Beverly. 319 00:22:36,631 --> 00:22:37,976 - Hello. - Hi, Beverly. 320 00:22:37,977 --> 00:22:39,357 - Oh, you're so young. - Oh. 321 00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:41,428 Thomas. 322 00:22:41,429 --> 00:22:42,981 - Mr. Pepper. - Hi, there. 323 00:22:42,982 --> 00:22:44,258 Please, have a seat, call me Stu. 324 00:22:44,259 --> 00:22:45,259 Thanks, Grace. 325 00:22:51,818 --> 00:22:54,303 So, how can I help you? 326 00:22:55,443 --> 00:22:57,134 Well, you're a civil lawyer, right? 327 00:22:58,549 --> 00:23:00,239 You defended that fella 328 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,726 who allegedly was hit by a police officer? 329 00:23:03,727 --> 00:23:05,555 Yes, I work in personal injury. 330 00:23:05,556 --> 00:23:07,695 - But you lost the case? - Thomas. 331 00:23:07,696 --> 00:23:11,320 No, to be honest, yes, I did. 332 00:23:12,425 --> 00:23:13,705 It's not something I am proud of. 333 00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:20,399 Well, um, our son was arrested a few months ago 334 00:23:21,538 --> 00:23:23,055 for drunk driving by the Marshalltown police. 335 00:23:23,056 --> 00:23:24,678 How old is he? 336 00:23:24,679 --> 00:23:26,921 He, he was 21. 337 00:23:26,922 --> 00:23:31,927 And they took him to Marshalltown Police Department, 338 00:23:32,790 --> 00:23:34,066 and they were booking him, 339 00:23:34,067 --> 00:23:38,726 and supposedly, he tried to escape custody. 340 00:23:38,727 --> 00:23:41,315 How drunk was he? 341 00:23:41,316 --> 00:23:42,558 Very. 342 00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:43,974 - 0.2 blood alcohol. - Yes. 343 00:23:45,527 --> 00:23:47,632 They say that he ran up the stairs, 344 00:23:47,633 --> 00:23:49,427 and up to the roof of that building, 345 00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:52,084 and then jumped from that building 346 00:23:52,085 --> 00:23:53,396 to the building next to it, 347 00:23:53,397 --> 00:23:55,605 12 feet. Feet across. 348 00:23:55,606 --> 00:23:57,469 And fell 20 feet. 349 00:23:57,470 --> 00:24:01,508 Um, excuse me, I'm sorry, drunk? 350 00:24:01,509 --> 00:24:03,337 He did all this? 351 00:24:03,338 --> 00:24:05,650 - It's what they say. - That's what they say, yeah. 352 00:24:05,651 --> 00:24:09,447 That night they flew him, they airlifted him to 353 00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:10,655 - Des Moines. - A Des Moines hospital. 354 00:24:10,656 --> 00:24:11,690 Yeah. 355 00:24:11,691 --> 00:24:13,485 The police report said 356 00:24:13,486 --> 00:24:15,073 that it was just a hairline fracture 357 00:24:15,074 --> 00:24:16,282 on the side of his head. 358 00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:33,056 Um, Kevin has sustained a rather severe injury 359 00:24:33,057 --> 00:24:35,507 to his brain due to his skull fracture. 360 00:24:35,508 --> 00:24:38,855 But it's still just one injury. 361 00:24:38,856 --> 00:24:40,340 That's good, right? 362 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,585 - Kevin's in a coma. - Huh? 363 00:24:45,069 --> 00:24:47,347 And his chances of survival are very low. 364 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:52,490 Survival? 365 00:24:53,595 --> 00:24:57,254 Well, you said he just had a hairline fracture. 366 00:24:59,049 --> 00:25:00,049 In my opinion, 367 00:25:01,292 --> 00:25:03,502 his injuries are not consistent with the police report. 368 00:25:05,538 --> 00:25:08,645 I'm very sorry. 369 00:25:15,306 --> 00:25:16,617 My wife had to make a decision 370 00:25:16,618 --> 00:25:18,413 that no mother should have to make. 371 00:25:20,139 --> 00:25:23,522 Eventually, we had to take him off life support. 372 00:25:24,937 --> 00:25:28,836 Now, my father was a Des Moines police officer, 373 00:25:28,837 --> 00:25:31,839 and we have a lot of respect for the badge. 374 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,534 But with those doctor reports and that hospital report, 375 00:25:36,535 --> 00:25:38,570 we can't help but feel 376 00:25:38,571 --> 00:25:42,610 that the Marshalltown police killed our son. 377 00:25:55,346 --> 00:25:57,625 Why do you think the Thackers chose you? 378 00:25:58,764 --> 00:26:00,834 Maybe there isn't much of a case. 379 00:26:00,835 --> 00:26:02,698 The kid was drunk. 380 00:26:02,699 --> 00:26:04,079 He made some bad decisions. 381 00:26:05,529 --> 00:26:07,081 You think you were their last resource? 382 00:26:07,082 --> 00:26:08,082 Maybe. 383 00:26:09,257 --> 00:26:12,535 It's not like I got a good track record fighting the cops. 384 00:26:12,536 --> 00:26:14,296 You might surprise yourself this time. 385 00:26:16,471 --> 00:26:17,471 Wait a minute. 386 00:26:18,715 --> 00:26:20,440 You think I should take this case? 387 00:26:21,649 --> 00:26:24,651 I mean, it could be an opportunity 388 00:26:24,652 --> 00:26:26,687 for you to learn from your mistakes. 389 00:26:26,688 --> 00:26:28,276 Monica, I make a lot of them. 390 00:26:31,175 --> 00:26:33,281 There won't be concessions on either side. 391 00:26:35,352 --> 00:26:36,559 The defense works for the police, 392 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,078 insurance company pays for it. 393 00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:39,942 So, what, what are you getting at? 394 00:26:39,943 --> 00:26:41,322 They never lose. 395 00:26:41,323 --> 00:26:43,911 I've known you for two years now, 396 00:26:43,912 --> 00:26:45,604 and I've never seen you scared. 397 00:26:47,709 --> 00:26:50,091 Whatever happened to the workers' comp stuff? 398 00:26:51,299 --> 00:26:53,439 Bad backs, spinal cord injuries, broken legs. 399 00:26:55,165 --> 00:26:56,924 That stuff is easier. 400 00:26:56,925 --> 00:26:58,546 Then don't do it. 401 00:26:58,547 --> 00:26:59,790 Probably not worth it. 402 00:27:05,209 --> 00:27:06,417 I'm gonna bribe you. 403 00:27:08,696 --> 00:27:10,249 What do you really think? 404 00:27:12,665 --> 00:27:17,049 I think you either go balls out or you scrap it. 405 00:27:18,498 --> 00:27:21,190 But I think you need to make a decision right now. 406 00:27:21,191 --> 00:27:24,435 Is this about you or about the kid that was killed? 407 00:27:26,955 --> 00:27:28,129 I want my penny back. 408 00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:41,452 Smile. 409 00:27:43,731 --> 00:27:45,146 Honey, I'm trying to work. 410 00:27:45,974 --> 00:27:47,526 What? 411 00:27:47,527 --> 00:27:51,220 Look, this kid was killed 412 00:27:51,221 --> 00:27:53,015 at the Marshalltown Police Department. 413 00:27:53,016 --> 00:27:55,224 They found his body in the alley. 414 00:27:55,225 --> 00:27:56,847 So you think a cop did it? 415 00:27:58,538 --> 00:28:00,022 I don't know. 416 00:28:00,023 --> 00:28:04,371 I mean, they said he, they said he tried to escape. 417 00:28:04,372 --> 00:28:07,271 So you would be prosecuting the whole police department? 418 00:28:08,134 --> 00:28:09,169 The worse thing in the world 419 00:28:09,170 --> 00:28:11,102 would be to lose a child, Nancy. 420 00:28:11,103 --> 00:28:14,174 Honey, I don't wanna be negative here, 421 00:28:14,175 --> 00:28:16,590 but what if you do all this work, 422 00:28:16,591 --> 00:28:18,627 you go to trial, and you lose? 423 00:28:20,077 --> 00:28:25,082 Well, then we will pack up, sell one of the cars. 424 00:28:27,636 --> 00:28:29,154 We will re-evaluate. 425 00:28:29,155 --> 00:28:33,089 We will, I don't know, we'll get a two-bedroom apartment 426 00:28:33,090 --> 00:28:34,850 like we had after we got married. 427 00:28:34,851 --> 00:28:37,336 Only this time we have two children to support. 428 00:28:38,164 --> 00:28:39,406 All right, Nancy. 429 00:28:39,407 --> 00:28:41,719 I won't take the case, then, okay? 430 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,583 I'll look for something more manageable. 431 00:28:47,311 --> 00:28:48,311 Okay. 432 00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:07,815 Thank you. 433 00:29:08,712 --> 00:29:10,333 I apologize about Beverly. 434 00:29:10,334 --> 00:29:12,509 She just went shopping. 435 00:29:14,407 --> 00:29:16,755 She's got the clothes bug the last couple days. 436 00:29:18,308 --> 00:29:21,414 I mean, she can spot a sale like a hawk. 437 00:29:23,658 --> 00:29:27,454 Mr. Thacker, I wanted to talk to you 438 00:29:27,455 --> 00:29:29,559 'cause I'm a little concerned. This is the only house 439 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,528 that Kevin has ever lived in, you know? 440 00:29:32,909 --> 00:29:36,050 A lot of people out there today, there's just divorces, 441 00:29:37,534 --> 00:29:39,605 all kinds of things going on with kids and families. 442 00:29:42,332 --> 00:29:44,196 We worked hard to keep this together. 443 00:29:45,128 --> 00:29:46,128 You religious? 444 00:29:48,096 --> 00:29:53,101 Well, um, I believe in the truth, wherever that leads you. 445 00:29:54,447 --> 00:29:56,759 Socrates is my hero. 446 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,796 - Socrates? - Yeah. 447 00:29:59,349 --> 00:30:01,005 - You married? - Yeah. 448 00:30:01,006 --> 00:30:02,006 Kids? 449 00:30:02,835 --> 00:30:04,387 Two boys. 450 00:30:04,388 --> 00:30:05,388 Four and six. 451 00:30:06,252 --> 00:30:07,840 A real handful, let me tell you. 452 00:30:11,913 --> 00:30:14,812 Yeah, Kevin was our youngest. 453 00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:17,505 The rest are all married and have kids of their own. 454 00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:26,479 He, uh, he was a surprise. 455 00:30:28,585 --> 00:30:29,655 We didn't expect him. 456 00:30:31,622 --> 00:30:33,347 He used to call me old, 457 00:30:33,348 --> 00:30:35,109 so I made him do all the yard work. 458 00:30:37,456 --> 00:30:38,939 What line of work are you in? 459 00:30:38,940 --> 00:30:40,216 Hmm? 460 00:30:40,217 --> 00:30:41,493 What line of work are you in? 461 00:30:41,494 --> 00:30:43,013 Oh, I, um, retired early. 462 00:30:45,705 --> 00:30:47,846 I used to do maintenance at Sears & Roebuck. 463 00:30:49,951 --> 00:30:54,576 And some ancillary work at the Des Moines Police Department. 464 00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:00,928 Well, now I just soak up my retirement fund. 465 00:31:02,550 --> 00:31:03,931 That's a good place to be. 466 00:31:05,622 --> 00:31:06,622 Not really. 467 00:31:10,661 --> 00:31:13,664 I went down there, 468 00:31:16,012 --> 00:31:17,806 the Marshalltown Police Department, 469 00:31:20,119 --> 00:31:21,672 and I took a look for myself. 470 00:31:23,226 --> 00:31:27,506 There's no way any human being could have made that jump. 471 00:31:28,921 --> 00:31:31,161 Kevin could barely stand on one leg without falling down. 472 00:31:35,686 --> 00:31:38,758 Have you seen his arresting officer, Dodge? 473 00:31:41,037 --> 00:31:42,037 How big he is? 474 00:31:45,144 --> 00:31:46,835 Sometimes, people just snap. 475 00:31:49,183 --> 00:31:51,598 It must've been a struggle, he got scared. 476 00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:53,256 You're damn right he was scared. 477 00:31:54,636 --> 00:31:56,086 I was talking about the cop. 478 00:31:58,088 --> 00:32:00,125 I don't care how you wanna slice the pie. 479 00:32:02,713 --> 00:32:03,713 Kevin's dead. 480 00:32:05,130 --> 00:32:07,546 And that guy is still out there, walking around. 481 00:32:11,205 --> 00:32:14,586 I wanna show you Kevin's room, come here. 482 00:32:14,587 --> 00:32:15,587 Come on. 483 00:32:26,358 --> 00:32:29,118 The day he died, Beverly washed all his clothes, 484 00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:32,743 and folded them, and put them back in his dresser. 485 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:38,714 The Cubs was his favorite team. 486 00:32:38,715 --> 00:32:40,509 Ryne Sandberg's a hell of a second baseman, 487 00:32:40,510 --> 00:32:41,751 isn't he? 488 00:32:41,752 --> 00:32:43,477 We'll see how they do next year. 489 00:32:43,478 --> 00:32:44,963 Yeah, we sure will. 490 00:32:47,517 --> 00:32:48,725 I loved Wrigley Field. 491 00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:52,660 I was there for the first time in 1938. 492 00:32:54,489 --> 00:32:56,422 I think they won the pennant that year. 493 00:32:59,494 --> 00:33:00,702 That was before your time. 494 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,539 I want you and another car to head downtown. 495 00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:12,161 We got a real back-up on Main Street. 496 00:33:12,162 --> 00:33:14,301 Just push all the traffic west on Elm, all right? 497 00:33:14,302 --> 00:33:15,302 West on Elm. 498 00:33:21,654 --> 00:33:23,622 You want me to go downtown, Chief? 499 00:33:25,244 --> 00:33:26,451 John, I think you're a good cop, 500 00:33:26,452 --> 00:33:28,005 but I got this thing on my plate. 501 00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:30,973 Seems we're being sued by the Kevin Thacker estate. 502 00:33:30,974 --> 00:33:32,112 Seems like some people got the wrong idea 503 00:33:32,113 --> 00:33:33,666 about what happened that night. 504 00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:36,704 He should've ran the other way. 505 00:33:38,430 --> 00:33:39,740 You know, he told me he was gonna end it. 506 00:33:39,741 --> 00:33:41,535 - End what? - When I was booking him, 507 00:33:41,536 --> 00:33:44,469 he said, "I might was well end it now." 508 00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:45,746 And that's in the report? 509 00:33:45,747 --> 00:33:46,747 No. 510 00:33:47,956 --> 00:33:49,751 Ron, your stories match, right? 511 00:33:50,856 --> 00:33:52,857 We did everything that we could. 512 00:33:52,858 --> 00:33:55,722 Followed procedure, prisoner escaped, 513 00:33:55,723 --> 00:33:57,931 Officer Dodge sounded the alarm. 514 00:33:57,932 --> 00:33:59,277 We had no idea where the kid was. 515 00:33:59,278 --> 00:34:00,830 Yeah, I even drove the ambulance. 516 00:34:00,831 --> 00:34:02,211 You know, next time, you just stay at the station. 517 00:34:02,212 --> 00:34:04,455 He was dying, the guys needed to be with him. 518 00:34:04,456 --> 00:34:05,698 I figure I should drive. 519 00:34:07,010 --> 00:34:08,010 All right. 520 00:34:09,012 --> 00:34:10,908 The lawyer's coming tomorrow morning. 521 00:34:10,909 --> 00:34:12,187 As long as they treat us with respect, 522 00:34:12,188 --> 00:34:14,189 there's gonna be no problem. 523 00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:16,122 We were trying to save the kid's life. 524 00:34:16,123 --> 00:34:17,709 Well, yeah, the FBI is gonna be involved, 525 00:34:17,710 --> 00:34:20,057 so just making sure that your bases are all covered. 526 00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:22,818 Fine, they'll understand how thorough I was. 527 00:34:22,819 --> 00:34:25,683 I took the pictures, I gathered the evidence. 528 00:34:25,684 --> 00:34:28,064 All right, well, if you're good, I'm good. 529 00:34:28,065 --> 00:34:28,996 Yeah, well, to be honest with you, 530 00:34:28,997 --> 00:34:30,826 I thought this was done. 531 00:34:30,827 --> 00:34:32,311 Right, okay. 532 00:34:38,005 --> 00:34:39,005 Ron? 533 00:34:40,388 --> 00:34:41,527 Yeah, gimme a minute. 534 00:34:48,741 --> 00:34:51,640 I want you to put your arms out like this. 535 00:34:51,641 --> 00:34:53,366 I want you to put your head back, 536 00:34:53,367 --> 00:34:56,610 and with your index finger, I want you to touch your nose. 537 00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:01,789 Do it with each side. 538 00:35:05,137 --> 00:35:09,382 All right, get your hands out of your pockets. 539 00:35:09,383 --> 00:35:10,797 If it is your second DWI, 540 00:35:10,798 --> 00:35:15,319 your license will be suspended for up to a year. 541 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,735 Oh. I, I'm gonna 542 00:35:18,185 --> 00:35:19,117 I'm gonna go to the bathroom. 543 00:35:19,117 --> 00:35:19,876 You gotta go to the bathroom? 544 00:35:19,877 --> 00:35:20,877 Yeah. 545 00:35:20,878 --> 00:35:22,119 - You gonna get sick? - No. 546 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,121 All right. 547 00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:45,143 So I guess you took the case. 548 00:35:47,524 --> 00:35:48,524 Yeah. 549 00:35:49,285 --> 00:35:50,872 Even after all we talked about? 550 00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:55,152 I had to. 551 00:36:08,890 --> 00:36:12,479 On the tape, Kevin asks to use the bathroom at 1:15 a.m. 552 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,482 He's in the bathroom for about two minutes. 553 00:36:15,483 --> 00:36:16,932 How do you know that? 554 00:36:16,933 --> 00:36:20,073 Well, because Dodge thinks Kevin is coming back 555 00:36:20,074 --> 00:36:21,592 into the interrogation room, 556 00:36:21,593 --> 00:36:23,628 so he turns the camera back on. 557 00:36:23,629 --> 00:36:27,184 Now Kevin doesn't come back, so Dodge starts to panic, 558 00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:30,221 he goes to search for Kevin, and the tape is left on 559 00:36:30,222 --> 00:36:32,672 for an additional minute and 15 seconds, 560 00:36:32,673 --> 00:36:34,950 then it's turned back off again. 561 00:36:34,951 --> 00:36:37,987 So it sounds like we have a missing minute and 15 seconds. 562 00:36:37,988 --> 00:36:40,231 Right, but Dodge claimed he found Kevin unconscious 563 00:36:40,232 --> 00:36:42,026 at 1:24 a.m. 564 00:36:42,027 --> 00:36:44,408 That gives us a missing eight minutes. 565 00:36:44,409 --> 00:36:48,205 That's enough time to stage a fall, do a cover-up. 566 00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:49,482 That's also enough time 567 00:36:49,483 --> 00:36:51,173 to climb the roof and make the jump. 568 00:36:51,174 --> 00:36:52,347 Well, we're about to see 569 00:36:52,348 --> 00:36:53,935 how possible that really is, aren't we? 570 00:37:12,264 --> 00:37:15,093 I am the angel on your shoulder. 571 00:37:15,094 --> 00:37:16,234 You're an angel, huh? 572 00:37:17,821 --> 00:37:19,444 I have big fuckin' angel wings. 573 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:23,655 I could have made that jump. 574 00:37:27,175 --> 00:37:28,970 Still got his blood on my uniform. 575 00:37:30,075 --> 00:37:31,076 Didn't wash out. 576 00:37:32,664 --> 00:37:34,768 So much blood came out of his head. 577 00:37:34,769 --> 00:37:38,910 Hey, you're acting like you've never seen blood before. 578 00:37:38,911 --> 00:37:41,741 Now listen, in the future, you follow the prisoner, 579 00:37:41,742 --> 00:37:43,018 the prisoner doesn't follow you. 580 00:37:43,019 --> 00:37:45,434 You're right, it was a mistake. 581 00:37:45,435 --> 00:37:46,918 Then why are you looking so fucking scared? 582 00:37:46,919 --> 00:37:48,782 I don't look fucking scared. 583 00:37:48,783 --> 00:37:50,578 I think you got on a lot of faces, 584 00:37:51,924 --> 00:37:53,132 but never the right one. 585 00:37:56,274 --> 00:37:58,276 You're a cop, look like a cop. 586 00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:13,290 Captain. 587 00:38:15,741 --> 00:38:17,501 Mr. Pepper, I'm Chief Wilson. 588 00:38:17,502 --> 00:38:18,743 Stu. 589 00:38:18,744 --> 00:38:19,882 This is Greg Potter, he's our city attorney. 590 00:38:19,883 --> 00:38:21,159 Greg, Stu Pepper. 591 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,471 This is Monica Wright, an associate of mine. 592 00:38:22,472 --> 00:38:23,404 Pleasure, ma'am. 593 00:38:23,405 --> 00:38:24,887 How can we help you folks? 594 00:38:24,888 --> 00:38:26,303 Just wanted to take a look at that roof, 595 00:38:26,304 --> 00:38:27,856 maybe take some pictures. 596 00:38:27,857 --> 00:38:29,098 Hope you didn't think 597 00:38:29,099 --> 00:38:30,739 you were gonna take any depositions today. 598 00:38:32,171 --> 00:38:35,071 No, no, just wanted to know the right questions to ask. 599 00:38:40,145 --> 00:38:41,491 According to their version, 600 00:38:42,872 --> 00:38:45,701 two officers searched the basement then the upper floors, 601 00:38:45,702 --> 00:38:47,117 but they never came up here. 602 00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:02,062 So he walked across here, 603 00:39:02,063 --> 00:39:04,859 no running start, and jumped over to the other building? 604 00:39:12,798 --> 00:39:14,420 That's a really long jump. 605 00:39:14,421 --> 00:39:16,457 That's very, very far. 606 00:39:17,907 --> 00:39:19,148 But he does, however, 607 00:39:19,149 --> 00:39:21,323 drop the cigarette and lighter over there. 608 00:39:21,324 --> 00:39:22,462 Why didn't they just say that he fell? 609 00:39:22,463 --> 00:39:23,913 I mean, I don't get it. 610 00:39:25,466 --> 00:39:27,364 Injuries aside, we have to prove 611 00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:30,195 that Kevin was never on that other building. 612 00:40:15,205 --> 00:40:16,274 - Where are you going? - Hmm? 613 00:40:16,275 --> 00:40:17,897 I was just getting started. 614 00:40:17,898 --> 00:40:18,898 Oh, you. 615 00:40:42,336 --> 00:40:45,442 Our greatest hope for the future 616 00:40:45,443 --> 00:40:47,513 are the minds and hearts of our people, 617 00:40:47,514 --> 00:40:49,687 especially our children. 618 00:40:49,688 --> 00:40:52,518 We can help them build tomorrow 619 00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:55,555 by strengthening our community of shared values. 620 00:40:55,556 --> 00:40:58,765 Values that help bring us together as one people, 621 00:40:58,766 --> 00:41:01,492 from the youngest child to the most senior citizen. 622 00:41:01,493 --> 00:41:05,876 For us, faith, work, family, neighborhood, freedom... 623 00:41:05,877 --> 00:41:08,326 Oh, there he is, Mr. Pepper. 624 00:41:08,327 --> 00:41:09,500 Congratulations on your appointment. 625 00:41:09,501 --> 00:41:10,468 I appreciate that. 626 00:41:10,469 --> 00:41:11,917 I appreciate that, come on back. 627 00:41:15,438 --> 00:41:17,750 Yeah, it is finally our turn again. 628 00:41:17,751 --> 00:41:19,199 We're excited. 629 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,031 Did you see Reagan's State of the Union address 630 00:41:23,032 --> 00:41:24,411 the other night? 631 00:41:24,412 --> 00:41:27,000 "America, in the crimson light of a rising sun, 632 00:41:27,001 --> 00:41:29,659 "fresh from the burning, creative hand of God." 633 00:41:32,351 --> 00:41:34,214 I guess we watched the same show. 634 00:41:34,215 --> 00:41:35,216 I helped write it. 635 00:41:37,943 --> 00:41:38,943 Hmm. 636 00:41:40,187 --> 00:41:44,052 Well, you're aware of my suit against the Marshalltown PD? 637 00:41:44,053 --> 00:41:45,916 I sure am, my friend. 638 00:41:45,917 --> 00:41:48,332 I wanted to give you a heads up on that. 639 00:41:48,333 --> 00:41:50,507 I'm filing 15 counts, 640 00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:52,336 and when I get the Thackers their judgment, 641 00:41:52,337 --> 00:41:54,511 I would hope that your department would wanna follow through 642 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:56,754 on the prosecution of the men responsible. 643 00:41:56,755 --> 00:41:58,723 I'll do what's best for my department. 644 00:42:01,104 --> 00:42:03,761 You do plan on investigating the case? 645 00:42:03,762 --> 00:42:06,765 We'll take a look at the case, we will proceed from there. 646 00:42:07,663 --> 00:42:08,871 Do the family a favor, 647 00:42:10,528 --> 00:42:13,909 have out of town agents do the investigation. 648 00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:16,015 Don't wanna risk a connection with the local cops 649 00:42:16,016 --> 00:42:18,604 and conflict of interests. 650 00:42:18,605 --> 00:42:22,022 Sounds like you've been bitten in the ass before, huh? 651 00:42:23,368 --> 00:42:26,026 Yeah, that's why I wanted to come talk to you. 652 00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,200 You're the assistant to the attorney general, 653 00:42:29,201 --> 00:42:33,032 and this is gonna be a high-profile case. 654 00:42:33,033 --> 00:42:35,552 You know, maybe they'll put you on TV, huh? 655 00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:37,209 Be good for your practice, right? 656 00:42:38,832 --> 00:42:39,832 Sure would. 657 00:42:42,180 --> 00:42:44,630 Let me know when you assign an agent to the case. 658 00:42:44,631 --> 00:42:47,116 Well, Mr. Pepper, are you asking me or are you telling me? 659 00:42:50,222 --> 00:42:52,603 Whichever answer keeps this conversation going. 660 00:42:52,604 --> 00:42:55,055 Well, I think you're asking, so it's noted. 661 00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:57,540 Good luck with your case, huh? 662 00:43:05,410 --> 00:43:08,205 The only good is knowledge 663 00:43:08,206 --> 00:43:10,795 and the only evil is ignorance. 664 00:43:12,175 --> 00:43:16,454 I wanted to understand Kevin Thacker, talk to him, 665 00:43:16,455 --> 00:43:19,250 but the light ahead was beginning to fade. 666 00:43:19,251 --> 00:43:23,323 My own life out of balance, looking for a truth 667 00:43:23,324 --> 00:43:26,533 while everyone else turned a deaf ear and a blind eye. 668 00:43:26,534 --> 00:43:28,121 Just trying to keep my head above water 669 00:43:28,122 --> 00:43:29,917 was proving more and more difficult. 670 00:43:30,884 --> 00:43:31,987 How you doing? 671 00:43:31,988 --> 00:43:33,506 All right, gentlemen, listen up. 672 00:43:33,507 --> 00:43:34,990 Any of you guys think you can jump 673 00:43:34,991 --> 00:43:39,409 from the end of the starting block to that rope 674 00:43:40,652 --> 00:43:41,860 without a running start? 675 00:43:43,206 --> 00:43:44,206 Sure. 676 00:43:45,657 --> 00:43:47,416 I took track and field in high school. 677 00:43:47,417 --> 00:43:48,694 Yeah? 678 00:43:48,695 --> 00:43:50,765 Yeah, what do I get if I make it? 679 00:43:50,766 --> 00:43:52,145 You get the dean's list, O'Brien. 680 00:43:52,146 --> 00:43:53,147 You're up, let's go. 681 00:43:54,355 --> 00:43:56,426 And don't laugh, all of you gonna get your shot. 682 00:44:01,984 --> 00:44:04,642 Don't mess up, don't mess up. 683 00:44:08,853 --> 00:44:09,785 Yeah? 684 00:44:09,786 --> 00:44:11,095 Let's see if you can do it. 685 00:44:11,096 --> 00:44:12,096 Zach. 686 00:44:15,411 --> 00:44:16,895 You guys, come on. 687 00:44:19,691 --> 00:44:20,691 Come on. 688 00:44:24,144 --> 00:44:25,801 Now, that's right. 689 00:44:27,699 --> 00:44:30,321 So how do you think they'd do with a belly full of beer 690 00:44:30,322 --> 00:44:32,323 and a police officer on their tail? 691 00:44:32,324 --> 00:44:33,324 No way. 692 00:44:36,708 --> 00:44:39,158 Marshalltown PD's whole defense 693 00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:41,539 hinges on this jump, Monica. 694 00:44:41,540 --> 00:44:43,231 Put the swim coach on the stand. 695 00:44:43,232 --> 00:44:45,717 The field test obviously speaks for itself. 696 00:44:47,201 --> 00:44:48,995 The state medical examiner said Kevin's body 697 00:44:48,996 --> 00:44:53,103 had no other injuries besides the trauma to the brain. 698 00:44:53,104 --> 00:44:56,037 And not even a low board diver can make that jump. 699 00:44:56,038 --> 00:44:57,832 Much less Kevin Thacker. 700 00:44:57,833 --> 00:45:01,663 Right, but Kevin obviously did 701 00:45:01,664 --> 00:45:02,940 because of the menthol cigarette. 702 00:45:02,941 --> 00:45:04,978 - That was planted. - Exactly. 703 00:45:07,566 --> 00:45:11,742 Okay, okay, so what do we have, then? 704 00:45:11,743 --> 00:45:14,227 Well, that gives us the power to convince a jury that 705 00:45:14,228 --> 00:45:16,989 a, Kevin could never have made that jump. 706 00:45:16,990 --> 00:45:21,097 And b, his injuries don't reflect a fall of 24 feet. 707 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,444 He was killed by blunt force. 708 00:45:24,445 --> 00:45:26,032 Kevin was drunk. 709 00:45:26,033 --> 00:45:27,827 One officer found the body. 710 00:45:27,828 --> 00:45:30,899 And they were in the perfect position for a cover-up. 711 00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:32,591 Yes, Monica, yes. 712 00:45:33,765 --> 00:45:34,972 All right, let's go through this again. 713 00:45:34,973 --> 00:45:36,318 What do we have? Oh, we got a lot. 714 00:45:36,319 --> 00:45:37,975 Somehow, Kevin's body ends up 715 00:45:37,976 --> 00:45:40,219 parallel to the building. In order to stage the fall- 716 00:45:40,220 --> 00:45:41,634 - Dodge had to have moved the body, 717 00:45:41,635 --> 00:45:43,235 because of the bruises under the armpits. 718 00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:05,900 Hey, Nance. 719 00:46:09,421 --> 00:46:10,421 Bert? 720 00:46:13,046 --> 00:46:14,046 Clark? 721 00:46:26,991 --> 00:46:27,991 Hey. 722 00:46:29,959 --> 00:46:30,995 Where are the kids? 723 00:46:31,892 --> 00:46:33,066 They're at my mother's. 724 00:46:35,068 --> 00:46:37,621 You took them all the way to your mother's? 725 00:46:37,622 --> 00:46:40,003 God, I was in a good mood, 726 00:46:40,004 --> 00:46:41,418 I wanted to share that with my family, 727 00:46:41,419 --> 00:46:44,421 and I get an empty house. 728 00:46:44,422 --> 00:46:46,906 I wanted to spend some time with you alone. 729 00:46:46,907 --> 00:46:48,495 You haven't exactly been available. 730 00:46:50,462 --> 00:46:53,051 Clark has a birthday coming up, or did you forget? 731 00:46:56,330 --> 00:47:00,264 I bust my ass, trying to make a living for you, 732 00:47:00,265 --> 00:47:01,507 trying to do what's right. 733 00:47:01,508 --> 00:47:04,061 That's a lawyer, Stu, not a husband. 734 00:47:04,062 --> 00:47:06,995 You know, some people might disagree with you. 735 00:47:06,996 --> 00:47:08,307 What do I get? 736 00:47:08,308 --> 00:47:10,103 I get an empty fucking house. 737 00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:12,863 What the hell are you doing? 738 00:47:12,864 --> 00:47:14,584 Dammit, I'm trying to get this thing open. 739 00:47:17,696 --> 00:47:18,836 Jesus Christ. 740 00:47:23,392 --> 00:47:24,392 Fuck. 741 00:47:53,525 --> 00:47:54,906 Nancy, I'm sorry. 742 00:48:53,344 --> 00:48:54,965 Why did you arrest Kevin Thacker? 743 00:48:54,966 --> 00:48:56,346 He was swerving on the road. 744 00:48:56,347 --> 00:48:59,004 I witnessed him almost hit a parked vehicle. 745 00:48:59,005 --> 00:49:01,283 He was pretty drunk, so it was a good arrest. 746 00:49:02,215 --> 00:49:03,767 What does a good arrest mean? 747 00:49:03,768 --> 00:49:06,390 That means that you follow protocol. 748 00:49:06,391 --> 00:49:09,911 So, how did he act when you took him into the station? 749 00:49:09,912 --> 00:49:11,395 He was nervous. 750 00:49:11,396 --> 00:49:12,949 Most are at that age. 751 00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:15,192 No screaming, no crying? 752 00:49:15,193 --> 00:49:16,193 None at all. 753 00:49:17,437 --> 00:49:20,474 If everything followed protocol, 754 00:49:21,751 --> 00:49:23,305 how did it result in his death? 755 00:49:25,479 --> 00:49:26,859 That's a good question. 756 00:49:26,860 --> 00:49:28,447 Because you must have dealt with criminals 757 00:49:28,448 --> 00:49:29,689 much worse than Kevin. 758 00:49:29,690 --> 00:49:30,691 Sure, I have. 759 00:49:32,107 --> 00:49:34,556 Oh, and by the way, there was a warrant out for his arrest 760 00:49:34,557 --> 00:49:35,973 when I ran his license. 761 00:49:38,182 --> 00:49:39,492 For what? 762 00:49:39,493 --> 00:49:40,631 He didn't make a court date 763 00:49:40,632 --> 00:49:42,185 two weeks prior to the incident. 764 00:49:42,186 --> 00:49:44,395 It was a speeding violation. 765 00:49:46,431 --> 00:49:48,606 And I treated him like any other offender. 766 00:49:49,814 --> 00:49:52,023 But you were the last person to see him alive. 767 00:49:53,956 --> 00:49:55,336 The only mistake I made was 768 00:49:55,337 --> 00:49:58,580 to give him more credit than he deserved. 769 00:49:58,581 --> 00:49:59,581 He was no criminal. 770 00:50:00,928 --> 00:50:03,654 I really thought he was gonna walk back into the room, 771 00:50:03,655 --> 00:50:04,655 but he didn't. 772 00:50:05,795 --> 00:50:08,659 I found him unconscious seven minutes later. 773 00:50:08,660 --> 00:50:10,696 How am I supposed to be held liable for that? 774 00:50:10,697 --> 00:50:13,009 When dispatch called you, you didn't pick up your radio. 775 00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:14,010 Is that correct? 776 00:50:14,977 --> 00:50:16,667 How do you know that? 777 00:50:16,668 --> 00:50:17,980 Oh, I've got the logs. 778 00:50:19,568 --> 00:50:22,088 Well, there was too much interference in the building. 779 00:50:23,192 --> 00:50:24,503 Interference. 780 00:50:24,504 --> 00:50:26,747 Yeah, too much interference in the building. 781 00:50:29,854 --> 00:50:32,338 So, did you interview all the relevant witnesses 782 00:50:32,339 --> 00:50:33,615 and people involved? 783 00:50:33,616 --> 00:50:34,616 Yes, I did. 784 00:50:37,137 --> 00:50:39,276 So, it was your claim 785 00:50:39,277 --> 00:50:41,037 that Kevin walked to the end of that beam 786 00:50:41,038 --> 00:50:44,040 and jumped from one rooftop to the next? 787 00:50:44,041 --> 00:50:45,939 That distance, that drunk. 788 00:50:47,044 --> 00:50:48,975 People do stupid things. 789 00:50:48,976 --> 00:50:50,184 Look, the long and short of it is 790 00:50:50,185 --> 00:50:51,737 I did a thorough investigation, 791 00:50:51,738 --> 00:50:54,119 and everyone behaved professionally and promptly. 792 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,465 From the behavior of your department, 793 00:50:55,466 --> 00:50:57,018 I find that hard to believe. 794 00:50:57,019 --> 00:50:58,261 We have already acknowledged 795 00:50:58,262 --> 00:51:00,333 that certain procedural mistakes were made. 796 00:51:01,713 --> 00:51:03,818 Yeah, and if this is about questioning my skills 797 00:51:03,819 --> 00:51:05,199 as a detective, quite frankly, 798 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,201 you have no idea what that entails. 799 00:51:07,202 --> 00:51:09,893 What do you have to gain from this case? 800 00:51:09,894 --> 00:51:11,101 What do you have to gain? 801 00:51:11,102 --> 00:51:12,482 Why don't you let me ask the questions? 802 00:51:12,483 --> 00:51:13,346 Besides money? 803 00:51:13,347 --> 00:51:15,485 Reputation, justice. 804 00:51:15,486 --> 00:51:19,558 Look, just because you keep a clean image, Mr. Pebble, 805 00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:21,422 it doesn't mean you're above the law. 806 00:51:21,423 --> 00:51:23,803 You're putting on an act, sir, and I think you enjoy it. 807 00:51:23,804 --> 00:51:25,115 - Counselor. - Do you know anything 808 00:51:25,116 --> 00:51:26,116 about this kid? 809 00:51:27,601 --> 00:51:29,465 Did you speak to his boyfriend? 810 00:51:31,018 --> 00:51:31,916 I'm sorry? 811 00:51:31,917 --> 00:51:34,607 Eric Jones, I did. 812 00:51:34,608 --> 00:51:36,403 Kevin went to visit him that night. 813 00:51:37,991 --> 00:51:39,716 It was a closeted relationship. 814 00:51:39,717 --> 00:51:42,650 They weren't like flaming fags or anything, 815 00:51:42,651 --> 00:51:45,170 but he was quite a character. 816 00:51:45,171 --> 00:51:48,414 Now, Eric told me that Kevin was depressed 817 00:51:48,415 --> 00:51:50,382 and had a drinking problem. 818 00:51:50,383 --> 00:51:51,969 And Officer Dodge said that 819 00:51:51,970 --> 00:51:54,351 the kid said he wanted to end it during the DUI processing. 820 00:51:54,352 --> 00:51:57,528 So when you're in that state of mind, anything can happen. 821 00:52:00,738 --> 00:52:02,463 Hey, all right, do me a favor, 822 00:52:02,464 --> 00:52:04,154 find out where Eric Jones lives. 823 00:52:04,155 --> 00:52:05,811 - Yeah. - Who's our judge? 824 00:52:05,812 --> 00:52:07,952 Hallow, he used to be city attorney. 825 00:52:26,384 --> 00:52:27,384 Hello? 826 00:52:28,973 --> 00:52:29,973 Hello? 827 00:52:31,044 --> 00:52:32,044 Eric? 828 00:52:35,842 --> 00:52:37,602 I'm the lawyer in the Thacker case. 829 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,503 Did you know Kevin Thacker? 830 00:52:42,504 --> 00:52:44,781 You know, I'm having a party with myself right now, 831 00:52:44,782 --> 00:52:47,232 and you two, you're just, you're not invited, okay? 832 00:52:47,233 --> 00:52:50,856 Hey, hey, listen, we can do this two ways. 833 00:52:50,857 --> 00:52:53,859 You can talk to me now or I can have you officially deposed, 834 00:52:53,860 --> 00:52:55,895 we'll do it at the police station. 835 00:52:55,896 --> 00:52:57,381 I already talked to the cops. 836 00:52:59,210 --> 00:53:00,383 Marshalltown cops? 837 00:53:00,384 --> 00:53:02,212 No, Columbo. 838 00:53:02,213 --> 00:53:05,112 Eric, just a couple of minutes, please? 839 00:53:07,805 --> 00:53:09,220 All right, fine, back here. 840 00:53:13,845 --> 00:53:17,814 So all they told me is that he was arrested drunk 841 00:53:17,815 --> 00:53:20,680 and fell off the roof. 842 00:53:23,579 --> 00:53:26,616 I mean, I didn't push him or nothing, I swear to God. 843 00:53:26,617 --> 00:53:31,622 Yeah, but he came to Marshalltown to see you, right? 844 00:53:32,485 --> 00:53:33,726 I mean, that's why he was here. 845 00:53:33,727 --> 00:53:35,177 He came here first. 846 00:53:37,110 --> 00:53:38,559 How do you know that? 847 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,459 Well, 'cause I talked to the same cop as you, Columbo. 848 00:53:44,945 --> 00:53:46,774 I owed him some money. 849 00:53:46,775 --> 00:53:50,330 And he was kind of impatient little guy, you know. 850 00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:54,817 I want my fucking money, Eric! 851 00:53:58,476 --> 00:53:59,683 Kevin, 852 00:53:59,684 --> 00:54:01,237 God rest his soul and all, 853 00:54:01,238 --> 00:54:03,067 he's what you'd call unpredictable. 854 00:54:03,930 --> 00:54:04,930 How's that? 855 00:54:05,897 --> 00:54:07,898 You never knew what he was gonna do. 856 00:54:07,899 --> 00:54:10,694 Like try to escape from the police? 857 00:54:10,695 --> 00:54:12,972 Yeah, that sounds a lot like him. 858 00:54:12,973 --> 00:54:15,699 I suppose if you were asked that same question 859 00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:19,290 in a deposition or in a court, you'd have the same answer. 860 00:54:20,187 --> 00:54:21,603 Might be worse, actually. 861 00:54:24,295 --> 00:54:26,331 Are you hiding something, Eric? 862 00:54:26,332 --> 00:54:27,953 I'm not hiding anything, okay? 863 00:54:27,954 --> 00:54:29,989 I mean, I tried to take care of him, you know? 864 00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:32,992 He'd come over here, he'd spend the night. 865 00:54:32,993 --> 00:54:35,720 The kid would flip out all night long, crying and shit. 866 00:54:39,517 --> 00:54:42,796 And I think he was very scared about who he really was. 867 00:54:46,835 --> 00:54:48,284 He must have been terrified 868 00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:50,494 sitting in that interrogation room, I'll tell you that. 869 00:54:56,776 --> 00:54:57,776 When he died, 870 00:55:01,056 --> 00:55:02,471 I couldn't go to the funeral. 871 00:55:04,266 --> 00:55:05,819 I didn't wanna see his parents. 872 00:55:10,168 --> 00:55:11,652 You know, Kevin, 873 00:55:11,653 --> 00:55:13,653 he wouldn't have wanted me there anyways, you know. 874 00:55:16,243 --> 00:55:18,314 So, that's all I am gonna say. 875 00:55:18,315 --> 00:55:20,247 You want any more, you gotta expose me. 876 00:55:21,628 --> 00:55:22,628 Depose you. 877 00:55:24,182 --> 00:55:25,424 Shall we? 878 00:55:25,425 --> 00:55:26,495 Yeah. 879 00:55:29,498 --> 00:55:31,568 He had a gold leaf on them. 880 00:55:31,569 --> 00:55:32,776 I know. 881 00:55:32,777 --> 00:55:34,226 Come. 882 00:55:34,227 --> 00:55:35,779 - Judge Hallow? - Yes. 883 00:55:35,780 --> 00:55:37,988 Stu Pepper, Your Honor, the lawyer in the Thacker case. 884 00:55:37,989 --> 00:55:38,989 Oh. 885 00:55:40,095 --> 00:55:41,267 Greg. 886 00:55:41,268 --> 00:55:42,476 You're here on Officer Dodge's motion 887 00:55:42,477 --> 00:55:43,891 for summary judgment. 888 00:55:43,892 --> 00:55:45,030 I am. 889 00:55:45,031 --> 00:55:48,344 15 counts, Mr. Pepper, very ambitious. 890 00:55:48,345 --> 00:55:49,621 It is. 891 00:55:49,622 --> 00:55:51,727 Your Honor, I move for dismissal of all counts. 892 00:55:53,350 --> 00:55:55,730 I'm throwing out 14 of the counts. 893 00:55:55,731 --> 00:55:57,318 Why? 894 00:55:57,319 --> 00:55:59,320 Insufficient evidence. 895 00:55:59,321 --> 00:56:00,494 It's all circumstantial. 896 00:56:00,495 --> 00:56:02,082 Didn't you learn that in law school? 897 00:56:04,291 --> 00:56:07,086 You're throwing out 14 out of 15 counts? 898 00:56:07,087 --> 00:56:10,020 Okay, what count are you keeping? 899 00:56:10,021 --> 00:56:12,368 Excessive force, barely. 900 00:56:12,369 --> 00:56:13,817 Your Honor, can I be frank? 901 00:56:13,818 --> 00:56:15,129 If you must. 902 00:56:15,130 --> 00:56:17,269 You used to be city attorney, correct? 903 00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:21,169 You used to be him, defending these guys. 904 00:56:21,170 --> 00:56:24,450 Is there any chance this could be a conflict of interest? 905 00:56:29,834 --> 00:56:31,110 Are you hinting 906 00:56:31,111 --> 00:56:33,390 I may not be fair and impartial, Mr. Pepper? 907 00:56:35,668 --> 00:56:38,911 You've got a case to prepare, and people to answer to. 908 00:56:38,912 --> 00:56:40,188 Exactly how smart is it 909 00:56:40,189 --> 00:56:42,087 to piss off the judge before the trial? 910 00:56:42,088 --> 00:56:43,710 I'm not trying to piss you off. 911 00:56:45,194 --> 00:56:47,920 And I'll take your one count of excessive force 912 00:56:47,921 --> 00:56:51,027 because that's all I need to win this case. 913 00:56:51,028 --> 00:56:53,548 Thank you, gentlemen, I will see you both in court. 914 00:56:58,242 --> 00:57:00,346 But don't worry about it getting dirty. 915 00:57:00,347 --> 00:57:03,108 I have to take things to the cleaners every once in a while. 916 00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:04,766 I like your scarf too. 917 00:57:12,463 --> 00:57:14,638 Why aren't you sleeping? 918 00:57:17,882 --> 00:57:19,159 I don't know. 919 00:57:23,647 --> 00:57:27,064 Nance, um, I'm not sure what to do. 920 00:57:31,793 --> 00:57:34,347 I got an FBI director that could care less, 921 00:57:35,693 --> 00:57:38,454 got a judge that throws out 95% of my counts, 922 00:57:38,455 --> 00:57:43,460 same judge who used to make his living defending cops. 923 00:57:44,564 --> 00:57:46,014 Wow, baby, I'm so sorry. 924 00:57:52,123 --> 00:57:54,815 I just want you to be careful. 925 00:57:54,816 --> 00:57:57,888 Think about what it means to prosecute cop after cop. 926 00:57:59,303 --> 00:58:03,099 Stu, these people can make our lives miserable. 927 00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:06,655 Yeah, but they're already making people's lives miserable. 928 00:58:10,107 --> 00:58:11,764 Somebody's gotta take a stand. 929 00:58:14,249 --> 00:58:17,494 You don't have to do it tonight, hmm? 930 00:58:19,254 --> 00:58:21,359 Come on, let's go to bed. 931 00:58:30,990 --> 00:58:32,128 All right, break it up. 932 00:58:32,129 --> 00:58:33,786 Break it up, I said. 933 00:59:03,747 --> 00:59:06,819 An honest man is always a child. 934 00:59:07,716 --> 00:59:08,993 But it's even simpler. 935 00:59:10,201 --> 00:59:12,825 What has been lost and what has been gained? 936 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,552 I was close to the Thackers, 937 00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:19,383 seeing my own image in their loss. 938 00:59:20,798 --> 00:59:23,386 I never knew if I was their last stop on a long list 939 00:59:23,387 --> 00:59:25,562 that I just happened to be at the bottom of. 940 00:59:26,770 --> 00:59:29,599 I was learning that the self-doubt, the anxiety, 941 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,085 sleepless nights, time away from my own family 942 00:59:33,086 --> 00:59:36,055 was to be expected if I was going to succeed. 943 00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:39,091 I had become close to a young man 944 00:59:39,092 --> 00:59:42,094 who I have never had the opportunity to meet. 945 00:59:42,095 --> 00:59:44,132 His justice rests on my shoulders. 946 00:59:47,514 --> 00:59:51,277 I can't raise the dead, but I have to speak for them. 947 01:00:16,923 --> 01:00:20,512 Jury members, you are being asked to decide 948 01:00:20,513 --> 01:00:22,721 whether excessive force was used 949 01:00:22,722 --> 01:00:24,482 during the arrest of Kevin Thacker. 950 01:00:25,622 --> 01:00:27,174 The city attorneys will attempt to prove 951 01:00:27,175 --> 01:00:30,936 that Mr. Thacker escaped custody during his booking, 952 01:00:30,937 --> 01:00:34,078 and died accidentally during this getaway. 953 01:00:35,562 --> 01:00:37,702 The attorneys for the Thackers will attempt to prove 954 01:00:37,703 --> 01:00:39,876 that the head trauma he incurred 955 01:00:39,877 --> 01:00:42,259 could not have happened the way it was reported. 956 01:00:43,363 --> 01:00:45,675 It is your charge to determine 957 01:00:45,676 --> 01:00:47,264 what you believe the truth is. 958 01:01:12,116 --> 01:01:14,740 Mr. Pepper, please call your first witness. 959 01:01:16,258 --> 01:01:18,744 Your Honor, I'd like to call Officer John Dodge. 960 01:01:21,816 --> 01:01:25,611 Officer Dodge, let me start out by asking you 961 01:01:25,612 --> 01:01:27,476 a very simple question. 962 01:01:30,687 --> 01:01:31,687 Go ahead. 963 01:01:33,482 --> 01:01:34,724 Do you normally brush your teeth 964 01:01:34,725 --> 01:01:36,623 before you go to work in the morning? 965 01:01:37,866 --> 01:01:38,866 Yes. 966 01:01:41,628 --> 01:01:43,320 And have you ever killed anyone? 967 01:01:47,013 --> 01:01:48,324 Yes, I have. 968 01:01:48,325 --> 01:01:51,603 I was in the 25th Infantry Division 969 01:01:51,604 --> 01:01:53,848 at Cu Chi and Da Nang, Vietnam. 970 01:01:55,332 --> 01:01:58,265 And in what manner 971 01:01:58,266 --> 01:02:01,165 did you perform these killings in Vietnam? 972 01:02:02,270 --> 01:02:06,031 With my rifle, sometimes my bayonet. 973 01:02:06,032 --> 01:02:07,378 All in self-defense. 974 01:02:09,726 --> 01:02:10,967 Oh. 975 01:02:10,968 --> 01:02:14,937 Just to be clear for the jury, self-defense? 976 01:02:14,938 --> 01:02:18,250 I learned to make quick decisions in delicate situations. 977 01:02:18,251 --> 01:02:20,597 I guess that's why I became a cop. 978 01:02:20,598 --> 01:02:24,223 Quick decisions in delicate situations, hmm. 979 01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:27,708 What's your height and weight? 980 01:02:27,709 --> 01:02:30,055 6'1", 210 pounds. 981 01:02:30,056 --> 01:02:34,784 And Kevin Thacker was 5'7", 133 pounds. 982 01:02:34,785 --> 01:02:38,132 That's quite a difference, isn't it? 983 01:02:38,133 --> 01:02:39,962 Well, I'm bigger than most people, 984 01:02:39,963 --> 01:02:41,965 so it's no surprise to me. 985 01:02:43,138 --> 01:02:47,072 On the night of October 29th, 1983, 986 01:02:47,073 --> 01:02:48,764 did a struggle occur in the alleyway 987 01:02:48,765 --> 01:02:50,455 behind the Marshalltown Police Department 988 01:02:50,456 --> 01:02:52,250 between yourself and Kevin Thacker? 989 01:02:52,251 --> 01:02:53,561 No, it did not. 990 01:02:53,562 --> 01:02:55,253 And during that struggle, 991 01:02:55,254 --> 01:02:57,703 being a man of your size and experience, 992 01:02:57,704 --> 01:03:00,051 you struck Kevin on the left side of the head killing him. 993 01:03:00,052 --> 01:03:01,052 Is that correct? 994 01:03:02,123 --> 01:03:03,193 No, I did not. 995 01:03:04,608 --> 01:03:06,713 I was simply trying to find an escaped prisoner. 996 01:03:15,067 --> 01:03:18,001 Prisoner is loose in the building. 997 01:03:30,461 --> 01:03:31,461 Shit. 998 01:03:45,338 --> 01:03:46,338 Shit. 999 01:03:49,756 --> 01:03:50,827 Call an ambulance. 1000 01:03:53,139 --> 01:03:54,139 Ah, Kevin. 1001 01:04:00,629 --> 01:04:04,287 From the time that Kevin asked to use the bathroom, 1002 01:04:04,288 --> 01:04:07,290 to the time that you found him unconscious, 1003 01:04:07,291 --> 01:04:11,743 that was approximately seven minutes, correct? 1004 01:04:11,744 --> 01:04:13,227 Yes, that's right. 1005 01:04:13,228 --> 01:04:15,091 He was in the bathroom for just under two minutes. 1006 01:04:15,092 --> 01:04:16,852 And we were walking out, 1007 01:04:16,853 --> 01:04:19,889 I went to turn the video camera back on, 1008 01:04:19,890 --> 01:04:22,616 and then I realized that he had fled. 1009 01:04:22,617 --> 01:04:25,308 After a search, I came back a minute later 1010 01:04:25,309 --> 01:04:26,689 to turn the camera off, 1011 01:04:26,690 --> 01:04:29,830 and with the assistance of other officers, 1012 01:04:29,831 --> 01:04:31,659 did another search. 1013 01:04:31,660 --> 01:04:33,869 Well, why bother to come all the way back 1014 01:04:33,870 --> 01:04:35,525 to turn the video camera off? 1015 01:04:35,526 --> 01:04:37,286 There was nobody was in the room. 1016 01:04:37,287 --> 01:04:38,563 It was an instinct. 1017 01:04:38,564 --> 01:04:40,116 And we all have certain instincts 1018 01:04:40,117 --> 01:04:43,326 that force us to do certain things, correct? 1019 01:04:43,327 --> 01:04:45,881 Kevin Thacker would still be alive today 1020 01:04:45,882 --> 01:04:48,987 if he would have just allowed me to do my job. 1021 01:04:48,988 --> 01:04:52,405 Kevin had to allow you to do your job? 1022 01:04:55,753 --> 01:04:58,032 I don't think it's that simple, Officer Dodge. 1023 01:05:00,137 --> 01:05:01,690 No further questions, Your Honor. 1024 01:05:12,598 --> 01:05:15,427 Professor Daily, can you tell the court 1025 01:05:15,428 --> 01:05:17,603 what a standing broad jump is? 1026 01:05:18,776 --> 01:05:20,363 A standing broad jump is an event 1027 01:05:20,364 --> 01:05:23,228 in which the competitor stands at a line, 1028 01:05:23,229 --> 01:05:26,438 and from a standing posture, they jump as far as they can. 1029 01:05:26,439 --> 01:05:29,165 And what's the world's record for such a jump? 1030 01:05:29,166 --> 01:05:31,098 The longest jump is 12 feet, one inch. 1031 01:05:31,099 --> 01:05:35,689 And do you think anyone, even a trained athlete, 1032 01:05:35,690 --> 01:05:36,829 could make such a jump? 1033 01:05:38,313 --> 01:05:39,313 No. 1034 01:05:40,281 --> 01:05:42,730 Have you done any tests to verify this? 1035 01:05:42,731 --> 01:05:43,973 Yes, I did. 1036 01:05:43,974 --> 01:05:46,942 Several of my swimmers jumped from a platform 1037 01:05:46,943 --> 01:05:49,806 similar to the one Kevin Thacker allegedly leaped from. 1038 01:05:49,807 --> 01:05:52,809 Right, what were the results? 1039 01:05:52,810 --> 01:05:55,743 None of them were able to complete the 12 feet. 1040 01:05:55,744 --> 01:05:56,744 Not even close. 1041 01:05:57,746 --> 01:05:59,990 Well, so in light of your test, 1042 01:06:01,543 --> 01:06:05,684 if those athletes' lives depended on jumping those 12 feet, 1043 01:06:05,685 --> 01:06:07,756 how many would still be alive today? 1044 01:06:08,619 --> 01:06:09,619 None of them. 1045 01:06:10,725 --> 01:06:12,727 I mean, unless they had wings, you know? 1046 01:06:16,524 --> 01:06:17,524 Thank you. 1047 01:06:18,905 --> 01:06:21,804 I'm a medical doctor, specializing in forensic pathology. 1048 01:06:21,805 --> 01:06:23,633 I've taught the subject for the past 12 years 1049 01:06:23,634 --> 01:06:25,911 at the Wisconsin State Medical School, 1050 01:06:25,912 --> 01:06:28,328 and was a coroner for over 20 years. 1051 01:06:28,329 --> 01:06:31,297 No, Kevin Thacker's autopsy was done by the county coroner. 1052 01:06:32,643 --> 01:06:35,749 Mr. Thacker died from a contrecoup injury to the brain. 1053 01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:38,994 The two types of injuries are a coup and contrecoup. 1054 01:06:38,995 --> 01:06:41,513 Since the brain floats in the fluid of the skull, 1055 01:06:41,514 --> 01:06:44,723 and is subject to movement, in a coup injury, 1056 01:06:44,724 --> 01:06:47,830 the skull would hit an object, such as a fall, 1057 01:06:47,831 --> 01:06:50,005 and the brain hits the side of the skull 1058 01:06:50,006 --> 01:06:51,661 where the impact occurred. 1059 01:06:51,662 --> 01:06:56,321 In Kevin's injury, an object hit the skull, not the reverse, 1060 01:06:56,322 --> 01:06:58,290 producing a contrecoup injury. 1061 01:06:59,705 --> 01:07:02,362 This forces the brain to the other side of the skull. 1062 01:07:02,363 --> 01:07:06,745 In his case, a blunt object hitting the left temporal bone 1063 01:07:06,746 --> 01:07:09,025 causing bleeding in the right temporal lobe. 1064 01:07:10,405 --> 01:07:15,065 Doctor, did the autopsy report reveal any other injuries 1065 01:07:15,824 --> 01:07:17,411 to Kevin, at all? 1066 01:07:17,412 --> 01:07:19,724 There was bruises underneath his armpits, 1067 01:07:19,725 --> 01:07:21,277 but other than that, no. 1068 01:07:21,278 --> 01:07:26,283 The defense claims that Kevin died from a fall of 24 feet 1069 01:07:27,043 --> 01:07:28,560 onto an asphalt surface. 1070 01:07:28,561 --> 01:07:30,183 Well, bluntly put, 1071 01:07:30,184 --> 01:07:34,083 that would defy both medical and biological science. 1072 01:07:34,084 --> 01:07:35,533 It's outrageous, really. 1073 01:07:35,534 --> 01:07:38,950 He would have multiple bruising where the impact occurred, 1074 01:07:38,951 --> 01:07:41,608 other bone fractures, damages to his organs, 1075 01:07:41,609 --> 01:07:43,990 which Mr. Thacker did not have. 1076 01:07:45,061 --> 01:07:46,372 Thank you, Doctor. 1077 01:07:57,763 --> 01:07:59,384 Dr. Booker, how long have you been 1078 01:07:59,385 --> 01:08:04,009 a state medical examiner and what does that job entail? 1079 01:08:04,010 --> 01:08:07,047 Well, I specialize in comprehensive medical examinations, 1080 01:08:07,048 --> 01:08:09,394 primarily postmortem, and for five years, 1081 01:08:09,395 --> 01:08:12,363 I've worked as an expert witness for the police department. 1082 01:08:12,364 --> 01:08:14,917 And in your expert opinion, 1083 01:08:14,918 --> 01:08:18,093 from what height can a person hit the ground 1084 01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:19,922 without sustaining injury? 1085 01:08:19,923 --> 01:08:23,098 A body can fall from as high as six stories 1086 01:08:23,099 --> 01:08:25,202 without sustaining injury. 1087 01:08:25,203 --> 01:08:27,999 Six stories, thank you. 1088 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,380 No further questions, Your Honor. 1089 01:08:30,381 --> 01:08:32,176 Cross examine, Mr. Pepper. 1090 01:08:34,144 --> 01:08:35,144 Um, 1091 01:08:40,012 --> 01:08:42,532 let me, uh, let me get this straight. 1092 01:08:44,396 --> 01:08:49,401 Now, you just testified that a body can fall six stories 1093 01:08:51,196 --> 01:08:54,198 without sustaining injury, is that correct? 1094 01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:55,647 Yes, yes. 1095 01:08:55,648 --> 01:08:57,407 If there's an equal, instantaneous transference 1096 01:08:57,408 --> 01:08:59,031 between the body and the ground. 1097 01:09:00,964 --> 01:09:01,964 Right. 1098 01:09:03,208 --> 01:09:06,865 Well, now what is that? 1099 01:09:06,866 --> 01:09:09,144 Can you demonstrate that for us right now? 1100 01:09:09,145 --> 01:09:12,008 I mean, let's just say, three feet. 1101 01:09:12,009 --> 01:09:14,253 And you choose which side you land on. 1102 01:09:16,152 --> 01:09:17,152 No. 1103 01:09:18,119 --> 01:09:19,085 Why? 1104 01:09:19,086 --> 01:09:20,603 Are you afraid of getting hurt? 1105 01:09:23,573 --> 01:09:25,264 Okay, let's say two feet. 1106 01:09:27,265 --> 01:09:28,576 One foot? 1107 01:09:28,577 --> 01:09:30,061 Objection. 1108 01:09:30,062 --> 01:09:31,787 Your Honor, if Mr. Pepper wants someone to fall, 1109 01:09:31,788 --> 01:09:33,719 let him demonstrate it himself. 1110 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:34,790 Sustained. 1111 01:09:34,791 --> 01:09:35,791 Mr. Pepper. 1112 01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:49,874 Can you tell me what this is? 1113 01:09:49,875 --> 01:09:51,495 That's a physics equation. 1114 01:09:51,496 --> 01:09:54,880 Force equals mass times acceleration. 1115 01:09:56,295 --> 01:10:01,093 Now, based on this equation, can you tell me at what force 1116 01:10:02,025 --> 01:10:03,371 Kevin's body hit the ground with? 1117 01:10:05,511 --> 01:10:08,479 No, no, I can't. 1118 01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:09,894 Why not? 1119 01:10:09,895 --> 01:10:12,311 Look, I'm a medical examiner, okay? 1120 01:10:13,450 --> 01:10:17,557 I'm not good at math. 1121 01:10:17,558 --> 01:10:19,284 No further questions, Your Honor. 1122 01:10:27,326 --> 01:10:28,671 The court room 1123 01:10:28,672 --> 01:10:32,434 is one of the most unpredictable places on Earth. 1124 01:10:33,608 --> 01:10:36,540 You never know exactly what you're up against. 1125 01:10:36,541 --> 01:10:41,201 You just hope you can inspire that jury. 1126 01:10:41,202 --> 01:10:43,479 I have known Officer Dodge for six years, 1127 01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:45,240 Detective Pebble for 10. 1128 01:10:45,241 --> 01:10:47,828 How would you describe Officer Dodge? 1129 01:10:47,829 --> 01:10:49,105 Well, he's a big young man, 1130 01:10:49,106 --> 01:10:50,590 but he's certainly not a bully. 1131 01:10:50,591 --> 01:10:53,248 He's just a officer that comes to work every day, 1132 01:10:53,249 --> 01:10:55,215 and goes about his business quietly. 1133 01:10:55,216 --> 01:10:56,699 And Detective Pebble? 1134 01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:58,529 Oh, Detective Pebble is simply the best cop 1135 01:10:58,530 --> 01:10:59,840 I've ever worked with. 1136 01:10:59,841 --> 01:11:03,706 Chief Wilson, have you ever known Officer Dodge 1137 01:11:03,707 --> 01:11:06,156 to have a problem with his temper? 1138 01:11:06,157 --> 01:11:08,366 The young man had some difficulties in Vietnam, 1139 01:11:08,367 --> 01:11:09,850 but since I've known him, 1140 01:11:09,851 --> 01:11:11,990 he's made hundreds of arrests without incident, 1141 01:11:11,991 --> 01:11:12,923 all of them good. 1142 01:11:12,924 --> 01:11:14,959 Chief, would you please 1143 01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,962 tell this court your opinion 1144 01:11:17,963 --> 01:11:21,724 on the theory that Kevin Thacker's death was a cover-up? 1145 01:11:21,725 --> 01:11:25,451 No, no, not in my department. 1146 01:11:25,452 --> 01:11:26,902 Simply there wasn't enough time. 1147 01:11:26,903 --> 01:11:30,733 I mean, you take this arbitrary video tape of the ordeal, 1148 01:11:30,734 --> 01:11:32,252 one to seven minutes. 1149 01:11:32,253 --> 01:11:35,428 There's not enough time in there to concoct a cover-up. 1150 01:11:35,429 --> 01:11:36,912 - Thank you, Chief Wilson. - Thank you. 1151 01:11:36,913 --> 01:11:39,432 No further questions at this time, Your Honor. 1152 01:11:39,433 --> 01:11:41,192 Mr. Pepper? 1153 01:11:41,193 --> 01:11:45,335 Well, actually, the time frame is quite clear. 1154 01:11:46,543 --> 01:11:51,513 Dodge sounded the alarm at 1:17 a.m., 1155 01:11:51,514 --> 01:11:54,170 that's from your station logs, 1156 01:11:54,171 --> 01:11:56,621 and Dodge discovered the body at 1:24 a.m. 1157 01:11:58,072 --> 01:11:59,280 That's seven minutes. 1158 01:12:00,868 --> 01:12:03,490 Shall we allow the court to have seven minutes of silence 1159 01:12:03,491 --> 01:12:07,012 right now, just to understand how long that actually is? 1160 01:12:29,448 --> 01:12:31,208 That's not even 30 seconds, Chief. 1161 01:12:34,039 --> 01:12:38,491 Do you really think that this couldn't have occurred? 1162 01:12:38,492 --> 01:12:40,700 Not on my watch. 1163 01:12:40,701 --> 01:12:42,081 Not in my department. 1164 01:12:48,605 --> 01:12:49,848 Detective Pebble, 1165 01:12:51,159 --> 01:12:53,299 how long have you known Officer John Dodge? 1166 01:12:54,887 --> 01:12:55,887 10 years. 1167 01:12:57,062 --> 01:12:59,374 And just to be clear for the court, 1168 01:12:59,375 --> 01:13:02,756 it was you who investigated the death of Kevin Thacker? 1169 01:13:02,757 --> 01:13:03,757 Yes, I did. 1170 01:13:05,795 --> 01:13:07,071 Did you investigate 1171 01:13:07,072 --> 01:13:08,797 whether John Dodge committed a crime 1172 01:13:08,798 --> 01:13:11,594 on the night of October 29th, 1983? 1173 01:13:12,491 --> 01:13:13,491 No. 1174 01:13:15,874 --> 01:13:16,909 Well, why not? 1175 01:13:19,049 --> 01:13:21,707 No crime was committed, except by Kevin Thacker. 1176 01:13:23,121 --> 01:13:27,298 You never, not even for a moment, 1177 01:13:27,299 --> 01:13:29,784 considered the culpability of Officer Dodge? 1178 01:13:32,235 --> 01:13:34,099 There's no evidence to support that. 1179 01:13:35,237 --> 01:13:36,791 Where were you during the booking? 1180 01:13:38,206 --> 01:13:41,036 Somebody was getting beat up across the street, 1181 01:13:41,037 --> 01:13:42,520 I was on a radio call for that. 1182 01:13:42,521 --> 01:13:45,212 But I returned shortly after the ambulance was called. 1183 01:13:45,213 --> 01:13:48,250 And, where was Officer Dodge? 1184 01:13:48,251 --> 01:13:49,770 He was with the victim. 1185 01:13:50,909 --> 01:13:53,428 Who notified Kevin's parents? 1186 01:13:53,429 --> 01:13:55,395 The Des Moines PD. 1187 01:13:55,396 --> 01:13:58,122 Why didn't you do the notification? 1188 01:13:58,123 --> 01:13:59,330 Because I was busy 1189 01:13:59,331 --> 01:14:00,883 collecting evidence and statements 1190 01:14:00,884 --> 01:14:04,093 with respect to Mr. Thacker's unfortunate fall. 1191 01:14:04,094 --> 01:14:05,061 Really? 1192 01:14:05,062 --> 01:14:06,580 Well, what did that consist of? 1193 01:14:07,995 --> 01:14:10,790 Talking to the parties involved, interviewing them. 1194 01:14:10,791 --> 01:14:13,033 That's when I found out about Kevin's mental state 1195 01:14:13,034 --> 01:14:14,139 during the arrest. 1196 01:14:15,347 --> 01:14:18,591 Turns out the boy was brokenhearted. 1197 01:14:18,592 --> 01:14:21,801 How could you possibly be aware of Kevin's mental state? 1198 01:14:21,802 --> 01:14:23,319 Because I interviewed his boyfriend. 1199 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,424 His boyfriend said he had showed up at Marshalltown... 1200 01:14:25,425 --> 01:14:28,635 Detective, Kevin's sexual orientation 1201 01:14:28,636 --> 01:14:32,812 is not on trial here, your colleague John Dodge is. 1202 01:14:32,813 --> 01:14:34,433 Look, I'm not gonna allow you 1203 01:14:34,434 --> 01:14:35,986 to dance around this any longer. 1204 01:14:35,987 --> 01:14:38,299 I want you to tell the court, beat by beat, 1205 01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:40,717 moment by moment, what happened? 1206 01:14:42,236 --> 01:14:44,618 Prisoner is loose in the building. 1207 01:15:13,888 --> 01:15:18,271 So he did all this while intoxicated, 1208 01:15:18,272 --> 01:15:20,135 leaping like a world-class athlete, 1209 01:15:20,136 --> 01:15:21,619 dropping the cigarette and lighter, 1210 01:15:21,620 --> 01:15:26,348 and falling 24 feet, only sustaining one injury? 1211 01:15:26,349 --> 01:15:28,039 Yes, it appears that way, yes. 1212 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,558 After Kevin was taken to the hospital, 1213 01:15:30,559 --> 01:15:33,113 why did have his clothes ordered back to the station? 1214 01:15:33,114 --> 01:15:34,942 To be used as evidence, I already told you that. 1215 01:15:34,943 --> 01:15:38,602 And to allow you to fabricate your version of the events. 1216 01:15:38,603 --> 01:15:41,881 You had time to plant the cigarette and create the evidence 1217 01:15:41,882 --> 01:15:44,539 because it didn't matter, Detective. 1218 01:15:44,540 --> 01:15:48,302 Kevin Thacker was never on that roof. 1219 01:15:53,065 --> 01:15:54,619 No further questions, Your Honor. 1220 01:16:03,973 --> 01:16:05,387 Thank you for being here, Mrs. Thacker. 1221 01:16:05,388 --> 01:16:08,528 I don't think anyone in this room would argue 1222 01:16:08,529 --> 01:16:11,255 that this is a very tough thing for you to do. 1223 01:16:12,188 --> 01:16:15,293 It hasn't been easy. 1224 01:16:15,294 --> 01:16:20,299 Will you please tell the court a little about Kevin? 1225 01:16:21,473 --> 01:16:22,817 What he was like. 1226 01:16:22,818 --> 01:16:24,337 Sure. 1227 01:16:24,338 --> 01:16:29,273 Kevin was a good son, very good son, funny, smart. 1228 01:16:31,068 --> 01:16:33,485 He was going to community college. 1229 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:35,936 Um... Did, 1230 01:16:37,972 --> 01:16:39,698 Did Kevin have a drinking problem? 1231 01:16:41,804 --> 01:16:45,495 I think he was just young, acting his age. 1232 01:16:45,496 --> 01:16:49,605 Maybe a little lost at times. 1233 01:16:51,814 --> 01:16:55,022 You know, he may have had some issues with alcohol, 1234 01:16:55,023 --> 01:16:58,888 but I think more he just never knew exactly 1235 01:16:58,889 --> 01:17:01,306 where to direct his attention. 1236 01:17:02,618 --> 01:17:07,623 And what will you miss most about Kevin? 1237 01:17:08,796 --> 01:17:10,280 Objection, Your Honor, relevance. 1238 01:17:11,454 --> 01:17:14,076 Trying to make the deceased a person, 1239 01:17:14,077 --> 01:17:16,078 not just a name, Your Honor. 1240 01:17:16,079 --> 01:17:17,286 Overruled. 1241 01:17:17,287 --> 01:17:18,392 You can answer, ma'am. 1242 01:17:24,191 --> 01:17:29,091 I'll miss sitting at the table with him after dinner, 1243 01:17:29,092 --> 01:17:31,129 just the two of us, talking. 1244 01:17:32,544 --> 01:17:34,649 I used to give him the business about putting on his shirt, 1245 01:17:34,650 --> 01:17:37,169 and he'd never listen to me. 1246 01:17:38,619 --> 01:17:41,829 He'd just say, "We're done eatin', Ma, relax." 1247 01:17:44,660 --> 01:17:47,559 Believe it or not, I'll miss worrying about him. 1248 01:17:48,767 --> 01:17:50,872 It's just, after you give birth, 1249 01:17:50,873 --> 01:17:52,701 it becomes ingrained in you. 1250 01:17:52,702 --> 01:17:56,671 It's just like a part of you, as long as you live, 1251 01:17:56,672 --> 01:17:58,674 that worry is just always there. 1252 01:17:59,571 --> 01:18:00,571 I'll miss that. 1253 01:18:02,263 --> 01:18:03,817 And, what else will you miss? 1254 01:18:07,648 --> 01:18:08,684 Everything. 1255 01:18:10,099 --> 01:18:12,584 Everything that would've come after. 1256 01:18:15,035 --> 01:18:16,035 Sorry. 1257 01:18:24,492 --> 01:18:25,492 Sorry. 1258 01:18:26,805 --> 01:18:27,875 Thank you, Beverly. 1259 01:18:40,059 --> 01:18:41,059 Hey, guys. 1260 01:18:42,269 --> 01:18:44,098 Hey, Mike, how are you? 1261 01:18:45,237 --> 01:18:46,754 Stu? 1262 01:18:46,755 --> 01:18:48,343 Ah, all right, all right. 1263 01:18:48,344 --> 01:18:49,584 I wanna tell you 1264 01:18:49,585 --> 01:18:52,866 how much I appreciate your work on this case. 1265 01:18:54,177 --> 01:18:58,768 And I wish Kevin could have met you. 1266 01:19:01,529 --> 01:19:03,014 Thank you. Thanks. 1267 01:19:19,202 --> 01:19:20,825 You have a difficult task today, 1268 01:19:23,103 --> 01:19:26,589 and I'd like to start off by thanking you 1269 01:19:27,934 --> 01:19:32,802 for your time and attention in this crucial case. 1270 01:19:35,287 --> 01:19:37,393 Your task today is difficult 1271 01:19:38,532 --> 01:19:41,258 because I'm asking you to believe 1272 01:19:41,259 --> 01:19:44,089 that the people you have been taught to trust 1273 01:19:45,090 --> 01:19:47,057 are the same people 1274 01:19:47,058 --> 01:19:49,888 responsible for the death of Kevin Thacker. 1275 01:19:51,717 --> 01:19:54,616 Now, if you asked me a year ago, 1276 01:19:54,617 --> 01:19:57,344 if I believed something like this could be be possible, 1277 01:19:58,794 --> 01:20:00,898 I'd have had a hard time believing it too. 1278 01:20:02,314 --> 01:20:04,420 But I'm learning, 1279 01:20:06,111 --> 01:20:08,561 I'm learning that, inherently, 1280 01:20:08,562 --> 01:20:12,290 we were put on this Earth to protect one another. 1281 01:20:16,121 --> 01:20:21,126 There's an old saying, absolute power corrupts absolutely. 1282 01:20:22,334 --> 01:20:24,508 We've all heard that statement. 1283 01:20:24,509 --> 01:20:26,890 And it trickles all the way down the power chain, 1284 01:20:26,891 --> 01:20:29,927 from a president to a meter maid, 1285 01:20:29,928 --> 01:20:32,826 to make those who think they're above the law 1286 01:20:32,827 --> 01:20:37,833 be fearful of its consequences, checks and balances. 1287 01:20:41,043 --> 01:20:43,114 That sounds like a pretty good idea to me. 1288 01:20:44,184 --> 01:20:45,770 What do you think? 1289 01:20:45,771 --> 01:20:49,015 I mean, there's history here, going back to the Middle Ages, 1290 01:20:49,016 --> 01:20:53,123 the Spanish Inquisition, police states, 1291 01:20:53,124 --> 01:20:55,815 and the creation of laws. 1292 01:20:55,816 --> 01:20:57,540 New laws had to be passed 1293 01:20:57,541 --> 01:21:00,200 to keep the abuse of power in check. 1294 01:21:01,648 --> 01:21:05,618 The Fourth Amendment protects us from search and seizure, 1295 01:21:05,619 --> 01:21:08,242 and the Fourteenth Amendment gives us our rights. 1296 01:21:10,106 --> 01:21:11,659 I never knew Kevin Thacker. 1297 01:21:13,903 --> 01:21:16,318 But I've gotten to know his parents pretty well. 1298 01:21:17,630 --> 01:21:18,942 And I've spoken personally 1299 01:21:18,943 --> 01:21:22,186 to everybody involved in this case. 1300 01:21:22,187 --> 01:21:23,981 And, I learned that 1301 01:21:23,982 --> 01:21:27,434 Kevin was really no different than any of us. 1302 01:21:28,884 --> 01:21:32,439 He was a young man trying to find his way in life. 1303 01:21:33,577 --> 01:21:36,545 And Kevin, like us all, 1304 01:21:36,546 --> 01:21:39,548 had to face the consequences of his decisions. 1305 01:21:39,549 --> 01:21:42,242 And that is not an easy thing to do. 1306 01:21:44,209 --> 01:21:47,245 The consequences to Kevin's decisions 1307 01:21:47,246 --> 01:21:51,941 on the night of October 29th cost him his life. 1308 01:21:53,425 --> 01:21:56,704 But if you look at the bigger picture, it didn't have to. 1309 01:21:59,121 --> 01:22:01,087 It didn't have to. 1310 01:22:01,088 --> 01:22:04,194 Kevin died while under the supervision 1311 01:22:04,195 --> 01:22:06,680 of the Marshalltown Police Department. 1312 01:22:14,688 --> 01:22:17,518 There was not a soul in sight, except for Officer Dodge. 1313 01:22:19,382 --> 01:22:22,488 Now, you've heard the details of this case several times. 1314 01:22:22,489 --> 01:22:26,078 The standing broad jump, the intoxication, 1315 01:22:26,079 --> 01:22:30,014 the press release prior to notifying his own parents, 1316 01:22:31,429 --> 01:22:33,914 and the nature of the single injury 1317 01:22:35,053 --> 01:22:38,436 that is not consistent with a fall of 24 feet. 1318 01:22:40,714 --> 01:22:44,062 You are in the throes of a cover-up. 1319 01:22:47,514 --> 01:22:49,101 The corruption of power 1320 01:22:49,102 --> 01:22:52,174 by those who believe that they are above law. 1321 01:22:54,314 --> 01:22:55,418 But let me assure you, 1322 01:22:57,144 --> 01:22:59,974 no police department wants bad blood on their hands, 1323 01:22:59,975 --> 01:23:04,876 so you have to reconcile yourselves to one simple fact 1324 01:23:06,291 --> 01:23:08,535 regarding the police and the world that we live in. 1325 01:23:11,503 --> 01:23:12,815 These things do happen. 1326 01:23:15,335 --> 01:23:17,820 Lady Justice is blindfolded, 1327 01:23:19,235 --> 01:23:24,170 but that is to remind us that it is up to all of us 1328 01:23:24,171 --> 01:23:27,864 to keep our eyes wide open. 1329 01:23:30,764 --> 01:23:31,764 Thank you so much. 1330 01:24:05,074 --> 01:24:06,074 Stu. 1331 01:24:14,670 --> 01:24:16,188 Have you reached a verdict? 1332 01:24:16,189 --> 01:24:17,673 Yes, we have, Your Honor. 1333 01:24:24,576 --> 01:24:28,062 We, the jury, find Officer John Dodge 1334 01:24:28,063 --> 01:24:31,548 liable for the wrongful death of Kevin Thacker, 1335 01:24:31,549 --> 01:24:35,691 and award $980,000 to his estate. 1336 01:24:37,279 --> 01:24:42,284 Oh, my god. 1337 01:25:41,514 --> 01:25:42,585 Guess what? 1338 01:25:46,762 --> 01:25:48,936 Did somebody pass the bar? 1339 01:25:51,698 --> 01:25:53,665 Congratulations. Thank you. 1340 01:25:55,046 --> 01:25:56,910 Might have a little competition on your hands. 1341 01:25:59,326 --> 01:26:00,879 Monica, I, uh, 1342 01:26:02,985 --> 01:26:06,954 I just have to thank you, I couldn't, 1343 01:26:08,335 --> 01:26:10,130 I couldn't have done this without you. 1344 01:26:11,235 --> 01:26:12,960 Oh, it's nothing. 1345 01:26:14,341 --> 01:26:15,341 Counselor. 1346 01:26:18,966 --> 01:26:21,245 Counselor. 1347 01:26:24,317 --> 01:26:27,836 The unexamined life is not worth living. 1348 01:26:27,837 --> 01:26:30,632 My victory took nearly a year of my life, 1349 01:26:30,633 --> 01:26:32,945 of my family's life. 1350 01:26:32,946 --> 01:26:35,948 You begin to understand your own personal limits. 1351 01:26:35,949 --> 01:26:38,503 What you are willing to trade for that victory. 1352 01:26:39,987 --> 01:26:42,576 For the first time, I felt that I was good at my job. 1353 01:26:43,818 --> 01:26:45,751 You can still find my name in the Yellow Pages 1354 01:26:45,752 --> 01:26:47,236 along with everybody else. 1355 01:26:48,133 --> 01:26:49,618 A personal injury lawyer. 1356 01:26:50,584 --> 01:26:52,241 Sometimes I just have to smile. 1357 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,424 There he is, the man of the hour. 1358 01:27:03,425 --> 01:27:04,632 Hey, I wish you would've called. 1359 01:27:04,633 --> 01:27:06,875 I'm just heading out for an off-site meeting. 1360 01:27:06,876 --> 01:27:09,533 I just wanted to grab a quick word with you. 1361 01:27:09,534 --> 01:27:11,466 Hey, congratulations on that victory. 1362 01:27:11,467 --> 01:27:15,056 Well, to be honest, sir, the real victory would be 1363 01:27:15,057 --> 01:27:17,403 to have the offenders punished in some way 1364 01:27:17,404 --> 01:27:19,130 other than the city's pocket book. 1365 01:27:20,269 --> 01:27:22,753 I wanted to offer my services free of charge 1366 01:27:22,754 --> 01:27:25,722 to help expedite that in any way possible. 1367 01:27:25,723 --> 01:27:27,689 Yeah, I think we have that covered. 1368 01:27:27,690 --> 01:27:30,036 Have you assigned an agent to investigate the case yet? 1369 01:27:30,037 --> 01:27:31,383 Yes, I have. 1370 01:27:31,384 --> 01:27:32,867 I thought about your very kind advice, 1371 01:27:32,868 --> 01:27:35,870 but I decided to put somebody on it 1372 01:27:35,871 --> 01:27:37,906 I'm a little more comfortable with. 1373 01:27:37,907 --> 01:27:41,254 Appearances and what not, I'm sure you understand. 1374 01:27:41,255 --> 01:27:43,222 Who did you assign to the case? 1375 01:27:43,223 --> 01:27:44,843 Ben Higgins. 1376 01:27:44,844 --> 01:27:47,814 Doesn't he do undercover work for Marshalltown cops? 1377 01:27:50,092 --> 01:27:51,714 Let me tell you something, okay? 1378 01:27:52,888 --> 01:27:55,546 You did a good job, nobody's denying that. 1379 01:27:57,030 --> 01:28:00,309 But you have to know when to walk away, when to move on. 1380 01:28:01,690 --> 01:28:03,311 And very frankly, 1381 01:28:03,312 --> 01:28:07,454 fucking with my department doesn't help that along. 1382 01:28:35,171 --> 01:28:36,965 Kevin Thacker and the Marshalltown Police, 1383 01:28:36,966 --> 01:28:40,073 for 10 counts against Mr. John Dodge. 1384 01:28:42,317 --> 01:28:43,317 Dismissed. 1385 01:28:46,424 --> 01:28:47,943 They're gonna be late. 1386 01:28:51,947 --> 01:28:53,084 Hello? 1387 01:28:53,085 --> 01:28:55,018 Beverly, it's Stu. 1388 01:28:55,019 --> 01:28:56,985 Hey, Thomas there? 1389 01:28:56,986 --> 01:28:58,746 Yes, hi, Stu, hold on. 1390 01:29:01,577 --> 01:29:02,475 Hi, Stu. 1391 01:29:02,476 --> 01:29:03,992 Hey. 1392 01:29:03,993 --> 01:29:06,858 Look, I'm really sorry to bother you on Christmas Eve. 1393 01:29:08,343 --> 01:29:09,585 We got some bad news. 1394 01:29:11,484 --> 01:29:12,967 Hallow threw it out. 1395 01:29:12,968 --> 01:29:13,968 Threw what out? 1396 01:29:17,041 --> 01:29:21,113 In civil cases, the law gives the judge 1397 01:29:21,114 --> 01:29:23,323 the power to overturn the jury verdict. 1398 01:29:24,289 --> 01:29:25,360 And that's bullshit. 1399 01:29:26,913 --> 01:29:28,084 What? 1400 01:29:28,085 --> 01:29:29,605 The judge threw the case out. 1401 01:29:36,267 --> 01:29:37,785 Well, what are we gonna do? 1402 01:29:37,786 --> 01:29:40,235 We appeal it to the State Supreme Court for a reversal 1403 01:29:40,236 --> 01:29:43,032 and get the original verdict reinstated. 1404 01:29:44,379 --> 01:29:45,380 I can't let it go. 1405 01:29:46,311 --> 01:29:47,865 I'm in this for the long haul. 1406 01:29:48,969 --> 01:29:50,315 I'm right there with you. 1407 01:29:51,455 --> 01:29:53,973 Listen, you have a good holiday, 1408 01:29:53,974 --> 01:29:57,356 and I'll talk to you after the new year. 1409 01:29:57,357 --> 01:29:58,357 God bless you. 1410 01:29:59,428 --> 01:30:00,291 Thank you. 1411 01:30:00,291 --> 01:30:01,291 Thank you, Thomas. 1412 01:30:11,440 --> 01:30:15,857 ♫ I went walking down the road 1413 01:30:15,858 --> 01:30:20,241 ♫ The road for the blind 1414 01:30:20,242 --> 01:30:25,246 ♫ For a long, long time, I walked it alone ♫ 1415 01:30:29,353 --> 01:30:34,254 ♫ Down that lonely road 1416 01:30:34,255 --> 01:30:37,741 ♫ No place to go 1417 01:30:37,742 --> 01:30:40,468 ♫ I was the sea 1418 01:30:40,469 --> 01:30:43,678 ♫ Cold as I could be 1419 01:30:43,679 --> 01:30:47,441 ♫ I was anything but free 1420 01:30:47,442 --> 01:30:50,582 ♫ As far as I could see 1421 01:30:50,583 --> 01:30:55,276 ♫ I was anything but me 1422 01:30:55,277 --> 01:30:57,658 ♫ And me alone 1423 01:30:57,659 --> 01:31:01,799 ♫ I was all on my own 1424 01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:06,806 ♫ Without myself 1425 01:31:07,876 --> 01:31:11,982 ♫ I found myself without a home ♫ 1426 01:31:11,983 --> 01:31:16,090 ♫ As hard as a stone 1427 01:31:16,091 --> 01:31:19,024 ♫ But truth be told 1428 01:31:19,025 --> 01:31:24,030 ♫ I was the storm 1429 01:31:25,721 --> 01:31:30,035 ♫ The storm of storms 1430 01:31:30,036 --> 01:31:33,659 ♫ So now you know 1431 01:31:33,660 --> 01:31:36,490 ♫ I was the sea 1432 01:31:36,491 --> 01:31:39,458 ♫ Cold as I could be 1433 01:31:39,459 --> 01:31:43,254 ♫ I was anything but free 1434 01:31:43,255 --> 01:31:46,430 ♫ As far as I could see 1435 01:31:46,431 --> 01:31:50,918 ♫ I was anything but me 1436 01:31:50,919 --> 01:31:53,507 ♫ And me alone 1437 01:31:53,508 --> 01:31:57,303 ♫ I was all on my own 1438 01:31:57,304 --> 01:32:02,206 ♫ Without myself 1439 01:32:05,623 --> 01:32:08,625 ♫ Think about the way 1440 01:32:08,626 --> 01:32:13,009 ♫ You have to fight 1441 01:32:13,010 --> 01:32:18,014 ♫ When you're always right 1442 01:32:19,361 --> 01:32:22,052 ♫ Think about the rose 1443 01:32:22,053 --> 01:32:25,539 ♫ With too many thorns 1444 01:32:25,540 --> 01:32:30,545 ♫ No one will stand by your side ♫ 1445 01:32:35,135 --> 01:32:39,553 ♫ No one stands by your side 1446 01:32:39,554 --> 01:32:43,627 ♫ No one will stand by your side ♫ 1447 01:32:50,737 --> 01:32:55,742 ♫ I walked alone 1448 01:32:57,641 --> 01:33:01,885 ♫ I found myself without a home ♫ 1449 01:33:01,886 --> 01:33:06,027 ♫ As hard as a stone 1450 01:33:06,028 --> 01:33:08,789 ♫ But truth be told 1451 01:33:08,790 --> 01:33:13,795 ♫ I was the storm 1452 01:33:15,624 --> 01:33:20,110 ♫ The storm of storms 1453 01:33:20,111 --> 01:33:25,116 ♫ So now you know 1454 01:33:25,910 --> 01:33:30,915 ♫ Without my soul 1455 01:33:32,952 --> 01:33:37,540 ♫ All on my own 1456 01:33:37,541 --> 01:33:40,406 ♫ I was the sea 1457 01:33:40,407 --> 01:33:43,513 ♫ Cold as I could be 1458 01:33:43,514 --> 01:33:47,310 ♫ I was anything but free 1459 01:33:47,311 --> 01:33:50,485 ♫ As far as I could see 1460 01:33:50,486 --> 01:33:54,766 ♫ I was anything but me 1461 01:33:54,767 --> 01:33:57,354 ♫ And me alone 1462 01:33:57,355 --> 01:34:01,600 ♫ I was all on my own 1463 01:34:01,601 --> 01:34:06,606 ♫ Without my soul 1464 01:34:11,541 --> 01:34:16,270 ♫ I went walking down the road 1465 01:34:16,271 --> 01:34:20,757 ♫ The road for the blind 1466 01:34:20,758 --> 01:34:24,106 ♫ For a long, long time 105782

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