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With your index finger,
I want you to touch your nose.
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Do it with each side.
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All right, get your hands
out of your pockets.
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Don't touch the wall.
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One, two, three, four, five.
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Five, four, three, two, one.
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All right, very
good, have a seat.
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If it is your second DWI,
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your license will be
suspended for up to a year.
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Oh.
I, I'm gonna,
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I'm gonna go to the bathroom.
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You gotta go to the bathroom?
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Yeah.
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- You gonna get sick?
- No.
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All right.
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Let's go, Kevin.
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Oh, shit.
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Prisoner is loose in
the building.
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Good morning, everybody.
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KTRX AM 440, Des Moines.
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It is just before 6:00 a.m.
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Skies are cloudy.
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And Tom Thompson, a
mechanic from Marshalltown...
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♫ We walked along the shadows
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♫ Later in the afternoon
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♫ We stood a lot
like strangers ♫
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♫ And the sunlight
rushing through ♫
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Socrates is quoted as saying,
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"Nothing is to be
preferred before justice."
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It's what we seek
when we're wronged.
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But like all philosophy,
this is simply a hypothesis.
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Monday started out
like any other day,
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wake up, kiss my wife
Nancy, run three miles.
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My mind was sharp,
my body agile.
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But since I passed the bar,
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I just needed a couple of easy
victories to keep me going,
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to keep truth on my side.
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- Good morning.
- Hi.
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♫ Till I pass by
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Gracey, anybody
get hurt today?
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Every day, boss.
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You have three
messages on your desk.
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Only three?
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In the last year,
I had come to believe
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that the only way to
keep my head above water
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was to take cases
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where I had to set my
own moral beliefs aside.
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And here I am.
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Three miles every day,
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trying to convince myself
that it's all worth it.
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Jury, have you reached a verdict?
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Yes, Your Honor, we have.
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How do you find the defendant?
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Not liable, Your Honor.
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Case dismissed.
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Look, I'm sorry.
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They're lying,
can't you see that?
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I know, I know.
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Can I give you
some bus fare home?
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You gotta be kidding me.
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His name's Otis.
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Who's that, the owner?
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Yeah.
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Otis.
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Look at these.
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Which one's real,
which one's fake?
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Hmm.
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Well, uh, they're both zircons.
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Fuckin' worthless, man.
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Come on, man, nobody
can tell the difference.
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You know, it's like a
Lincoln from a Cadillac.
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Look, we go on the
road with this shit,
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we're make us a fortune.
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How do you know?
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Know what?
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The difference between
a Lincoln and a Cadillac?
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My dad drives a Cadillac, and
it ain't no fuckin' Lincoln.
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All I'm saying is I want
us to be partners, okay?
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I'll take care of you,
don't worry about a thing.
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Yeah, boy, you don't believe me?
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I don't trust you, Eric.
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Who pays your bills?
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Me.
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Who sits up with you all night
long when you're depressed?
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Me, and you don't trust me?
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Kevin, come on.
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You patronize me.
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You tell me all the things
you think I wanna hear,
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and then you use me.
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I mean, you still
haven't fuckin' paid me.
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I sold two grand worth of shit
for you, and I want my cut.
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All right, take it.
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You sell, keep
whatever you want.
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They're fucking
worthless, man.
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They're zircons,
I just said that.
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Come here.
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Kevin, come on.
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Hey.
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You used to be so different.
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You were still a
virgin when I met you.
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Oh, fuck you, man.
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Nobody's gonna see, come on.
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I'll give you your
money, I will.
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Put your fuckin'
dick away, Eric.
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Kevin, I'm sorry, man.
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Jeez.
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Look, it's only
your third case.
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Man, you can get your ass handed
to you in personal injury.
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Wow, now I'm getting
advice from my paralegal?
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Yeah, with six years
experience in the courtroom,
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as you know.
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Besides, I only have
to pass the bar.
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Iowa bar is tough.
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Yeah, how many
times you take it?
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Once, first to finish.
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Liar.
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Mm-hmm.
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Wow, that's not
bad for a philosophy major.
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You know, you never did tell me
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how you went from Socrates
to the penal code.
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It's not that much
of a leap, really.
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I mean, it goes
back to the Romans.
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Plato wrote whole volumes of law
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for the King of
Syracuse in Greece.
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Law is built on theory.
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Sure, what's right and wrong.
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Exactly, all right.
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Take, for example, today.
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Our client completely refused
a field sobriety test,
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he refused arrest, and
he got smacked for it.
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Now, do I agree with
what the cops did?
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No.
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It's that manipulation,
that balance of power
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that made me wanna
become a lawyer.
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We're the great
equalizers, Monica.
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It's not my third case.
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- I know.
- Right.
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It's your fourth.
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Look, honestly, you've
got to play the jury more.
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I mean, right and wrong
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is something they
decide in their gut.
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You can't expect them to
absorb all those facts.
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They need a hook, you
know, something to grasp.
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The jury today bought
that cop's story.
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Especially juror number four.
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Yeah, well, foreman's
usually a dominant white male.
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And, nobody wants to believe
that cops hurt innocent people.
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Nobody, not even me.
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All right, no more
police brutality cases.
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They're impossible
to win, I'm serious.
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- You're the boss.
- Yes, I am.
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I gotta go study for
that brutal Iowa bar.
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Yes, you do.
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And when I
pass, I expect a raise.
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Counselor, we need to win
a couple of cases first.
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Don't think too much.
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It's not good for you.
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Thanks, appreciate that.
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- Nighty-night.
- Nighty-night.
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I got it.
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I got your car.
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Hey, look who's home late again.
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Hey, Daddy.
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Hey, buddy.
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Where's Bert?
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Bert and Clark
had a little fight.
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Any blood shed?
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Bert was mean to me.
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Bert's in his room.
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Hmm.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, you gotta
give his mommy a kiss first.
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Honey, what's wrong?
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What do you think?
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You lost?
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I'll go talk to Bert.
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Okay.
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Whoosh.
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Tough day, partner?
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What happened?
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Well, we were playing cars,
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and I wanted to race them
to see who was the fastest.
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And I started to race them,
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and Clark tried to
stop me, and I hit him.
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Oh, well, you're
his big brother, Bert.
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You know, you gotta protect him
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'cause that's what
big brothers do,
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okay, bud?
Okay.
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- I love you.
- Love you, too.
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All right, so I am
gonna send Mommy in,
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and she'll bring some milk,
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but I don't want any
more fighting, okay?
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Okay.
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- Promise?
- Yes.
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- Okay, night, bud.
- Night.
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The contestants came
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from all over the country,
driving all sort of cars...
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Did you talk to him?
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Stu, did you talk to him?
He's okay.
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He's a good boy.
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Maybe Bert and Clark
shouldn't share a room.
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Why not?
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They fight constantly.
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Yeah, well, they have
to learn how to get along,
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how to make compromises.
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Can you take Bert to
soccer practice on Friday?
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I just,
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I just thought this
was open and shut case.
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I mean, now the
guy has got no job,
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no income,
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and no car.
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Hey, sweetie, can't you
wait until dinner, huh?
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And go put on a shirt
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before you sit down at
the table, okay, hun?
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Yes, ma'am.
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Stop it.
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Get out of here,
get out of here.
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You're going out
tonight, aren't you?
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Oh, come on, you're
hardly ever home anymore.
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I'm 21 years old,
guys, don't worry.
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It's my job to worry.
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It's in the Mom handbook.
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I'm driving up
to Marshalltown.
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Really?
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To see who?
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Nobody.
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♫ He's got a girlfriend
in Marshalltown ♫
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No.
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I mean, you know,
there are girls there,
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just none of them happen
to be my girlfriend.
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What do you think, Dad?
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You think the girls are prettier
here, or in Marshalltown?
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I think the prettiest
girl in the world
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is sitting right at
this table right now.
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Oh, you.
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Hey, you really
wanna drive an hour
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all the up to Marshalltown?
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It's an hour, it's fine.
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I mean, this guy Eric
lives up there, I know him.
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He owes me some money.
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And some people are
meeting up at a bar, okay?
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What?
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Okay, I'll have three beers.
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Four, if they're lights.
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I mean, you guys really
think I want another DWI?
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- I should hope not.
- Well, just call,
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call, you hear?
Okay, I know.
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Sure, Mom.
Hey, what about me?
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What about you?
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Yeah, I have to hold back.
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I wanna bite him.
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Not here, leave a message.
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Eric, pick up.
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You know what?
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You know what, man?
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I mean, I'd call you
a loser and a liar,
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but I think you know what
a piece of shit you are.
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I mean, you can't even
pay me what you owe me.
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You know, what kind of fuckin'
man does that make you?
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So you know what?
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By the way, I'm at the
bar here by myself,
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you fuckin' asshole.
262
00:17:36,676 --> 00:17:38,264
Excuse me, sorry.
263
00:17:46,168 --> 00:17:47,411
Why are you so sad?
264
00:17:52,174 --> 00:17:53,174
I'm not sad.
265
00:17:55,626 --> 00:17:58,042
I'm Cara, with a C.
266
00:18:00,838 --> 00:18:04,635
I'm Kevin, with a K.
267
00:18:09,674 --> 00:18:11,262
You wanna play some pool?
268
00:18:12,539 --> 00:18:15,232
No, I'm no good at pool.
269
00:18:16,509 --> 00:18:20,099
Plus, if I lost, I'd
feel really stupid.
270
00:18:21,583 --> 00:18:23,102
Well, what if I let you win?
271
00:18:28,210 --> 00:18:29,418
You got a girlfriend?
272
00:18:32,180 --> 00:18:33,905
You know, that's
the second time
273
00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:37,149
someone's asked me
that question today.
274
00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:38,979
No, no, I don't.
275
00:18:39,911 --> 00:18:42,327
Do you have a girlfriend?
276
00:18:42,328 --> 00:18:44,123
No.
277
00:18:45,676 --> 00:18:47,471
I don't have a
boyfriend, either.
278
00:18:52,855 --> 00:18:56,306
I, I need to, I need to go.
279
00:18:56,307 --> 00:18:57,895
Oh, wait, wait, um,
280
00:19:00,415 --> 00:19:01,415
here.
281
00:19:10,252 --> 00:19:11,288
Promise you'll call?
282
00:19:15,257 --> 00:19:17,500
Yeah, I promise.
283
00:19:17,501 --> 00:19:18,501
Okay.
284
00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:16,215
♫ Oh
285
00:20:18,596 --> 00:20:19,907
♫ All right
286
00:20:19,908 --> 00:20:21,667
♫ And it's believin'
287
00:20:21,668 --> 00:20:23,600
♫ Don't be shy
288
00:20:23,601 --> 00:20:24,464
♫ You know me
289
00:20:24,465 --> 00:20:27,225
♫ I'm on your side
290
00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,227
♫ Public deceiver
291
00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:31,125
♫ Take a hike
292
00:20:31,126 --> 00:20:34,956
♫ We don't want
you or your lies ♫
293
00:20:34,957 --> 00:20:36,889
♫ Do you believe it
294
00:20:36,890 --> 00:20:40,445
♫ You're just saying
295
00:20:40,446 --> 00:20:41,549
Shit.
296
00:20:41,550 --> 00:20:42,550
Oh, shit.
297
00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:52,457
♫ Do you believe in love
298
00:20:52,458 --> 00:20:56,219
♫ Do you believe in love
299
00:20:56,220 --> 00:21:01,121
♫ Do you believe in love
300
00:21:18,311 --> 00:21:21,728
Thomas, honey, get the phone.
301
00:21:24,455 --> 00:21:25,455
Hello?
302
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:28,701
Yes, this is he.
Who is it?
303
00:21:30,737 --> 00:21:31,737
Which hospital?
304
00:21:32,946 --> 00:21:34,499
- Thomas?
- It's him.
305
00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:35,500
What?
306
00:21:36,985 --> 00:21:38,020
I don't understand.
307
00:21:38,952 --> 00:21:40,057
What press release?
308
00:21:41,403 --> 00:21:44,302
Well, what can you tell me?
309
00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:45,303
Kevin.
310
00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:47,305
Kevin.
311
00:21:47,306 --> 00:21:48,478
Beverly?
312
00:21:48,479 --> 00:21:50,274
Thomas, he's not here.
313
00:22:08,741 --> 00:22:11,018
Anybody get hurt today, Grace?
314
00:22:11,019 --> 00:22:13,572
You have an appointment
with the Thackers.
315
00:22:13,573 --> 00:22:15,022
I'm sorry, who?
316
00:22:15,023 --> 00:22:16,299
Thomas and
Beverly Thacker at 10:30.
317
00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:17,888
Thackers, thank you.
318
00:22:32,523 --> 00:22:35,077
Ahem, Thomas and Beverly.
319
00:22:36,631 --> 00:22:37,976
- Hello.
- Hi, Beverly.
320
00:22:37,977 --> 00:22:39,357
- Oh, you're so young.
- Oh.
321
00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:41,428
Thomas.
322
00:22:41,429 --> 00:22:42,981
- Mr. Pepper.
- Hi, there.
323
00:22:42,982 --> 00:22:44,258
Please, have a
seat, call me Stu.
324
00:22:44,259 --> 00:22:45,259
Thanks, Grace.
325
00:22:51,818 --> 00:22:54,303
So, how can I help you?
326
00:22:55,443 --> 00:22:57,134
Well, you're a
civil lawyer, right?
327
00:22:58,549 --> 00:23:00,239
You defended that fella
328
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,726
who allegedly was hit
by a police officer?
329
00:23:03,727 --> 00:23:05,555
Yes, I work in
personal injury.
330
00:23:05,556 --> 00:23:07,695
- But you lost the case?
- Thomas.
331
00:23:07,696 --> 00:23:11,320
No, to be honest, yes, I did.
332
00:23:12,425 --> 00:23:13,705
It's not something
I am proud of.
333
00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:20,399
Well, um, our son was
arrested a few months ago
334
00:23:21,538 --> 00:23:23,055
for drunk driving by
the Marshalltown police.
335
00:23:23,056 --> 00:23:24,678
How old is he?
336
00:23:24,679 --> 00:23:26,921
He, he was 21.
337
00:23:26,922 --> 00:23:31,927
And they took him to
Marshalltown Police Department,
338
00:23:32,790 --> 00:23:34,066
and they were booking him,
339
00:23:34,067 --> 00:23:38,726
and supposedly, he
tried to escape custody.
340
00:23:38,727 --> 00:23:41,315
How drunk was he?
341
00:23:41,316 --> 00:23:42,558
Very.
342
00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:43,974
- 0.2 blood alcohol.
- Yes.
343
00:23:45,527 --> 00:23:47,632
They say that he
ran up the stairs,
344
00:23:47,633 --> 00:23:49,427
and up to the roof
of that building,
345
00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:52,084
and then jumped
from that building
346
00:23:52,085 --> 00:23:53,396
to the building next to it,
347
00:23:53,397 --> 00:23:55,605
12 feet.
Feet across.
348
00:23:55,606 --> 00:23:57,469
And fell 20 feet.
349
00:23:57,470 --> 00:24:01,508
Um, excuse me,
I'm sorry, drunk?
350
00:24:01,509 --> 00:24:03,337
He did all this?
351
00:24:03,338 --> 00:24:05,650
- It's what they say.
- That's what they say, yeah.
352
00:24:05,651 --> 00:24:09,447
That night they flew
him, they airlifted him to
353
00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:10,655
- Des Moines.
- A Des Moines hospital.
354
00:24:10,656 --> 00:24:11,690
Yeah.
355
00:24:11,691 --> 00:24:13,485
The police report said
356
00:24:13,486 --> 00:24:15,073
that it was just a
hairline fracture
357
00:24:15,074 --> 00:24:16,282
on the side of his head.
358
00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:33,056
Um, Kevin has sustained
a rather severe injury
359
00:24:33,057 --> 00:24:35,507
to his brain due to
his skull fracture.
360
00:24:35,508 --> 00:24:38,855
But it's still
just one injury.
361
00:24:38,856 --> 00:24:40,340
That's good, right?
362
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,585
- Kevin's in a coma.
- Huh?
363
00:24:45,069 --> 00:24:47,347
And his chances
of survival are very low.
364
00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:52,490
Survival?
365
00:24:53,595 --> 00:24:57,254
Well, you said he just
had a hairline fracture.
366
00:24:59,049 --> 00:25:00,049
In my opinion,
367
00:25:01,292 --> 00:25:03,502
his injuries are not consistent
with the police report.
368
00:25:05,538 --> 00:25:08,645
I'm very sorry.
369
00:25:15,306 --> 00:25:16,617
My wife had to make a decision
370
00:25:16,618 --> 00:25:18,413
that no mother
should have to make.
371
00:25:20,139 --> 00:25:23,522
Eventually, we had to
take him off life support.
372
00:25:24,937 --> 00:25:28,836
Now, my father was a Des
Moines police officer,
373
00:25:28,837 --> 00:25:31,839
and we have a lot of
respect for the badge.
374
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,534
But with those doctor reports
and that hospital report,
375
00:25:36,535 --> 00:25:38,570
we can't help but feel
376
00:25:38,571 --> 00:25:42,610
that the Marshalltown
police killed our son.
377
00:25:55,346 --> 00:25:57,625
Why do you think
the Thackers chose you?
378
00:25:58,764 --> 00:26:00,834
Maybe there isn't
much of a case.
379
00:26:00,835 --> 00:26:02,698
The kid was drunk.
380
00:26:02,699 --> 00:26:04,079
He made some bad decisions.
381
00:26:05,529 --> 00:26:07,081
You think you were
their last resource?
382
00:26:07,082 --> 00:26:08,082
Maybe.
383
00:26:09,257 --> 00:26:12,535
It's not like I got a good
track record fighting the cops.
384
00:26:12,536 --> 00:26:14,296
You might surprise
yourself this time.
385
00:26:16,471 --> 00:26:17,471
Wait a minute.
386
00:26:18,715 --> 00:26:20,440
You think I should
take this case?
387
00:26:21,649 --> 00:26:24,651
I mean, it could
be an opportunity
388
00:26:24,652 --> 00:26:26,687
for you to learn
from your mistakes.
389
00:26:26,688 --> 00:26:28,276
Monica, I make a lot of them.
390
00:26:31,175 --> 00:26:33,281
There won't be concessions
on either side.
391
00:26:35,352 --> 00:26:36,559
The defense works
for the police,
392
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,078
insurance company pays for it.
393
00:26:38,079 --> 00:26:39,942
So, what, what
are you getting at?
394
00:26:39,943 --> 00:26:41,322
They never lose.
395
00:26:41,323 --> 00:26:43,911
I've known you
for two years now,
396
00:26:43,912 --> 00:26:45,604
and I've never seen you scared.
397
00:26:47,709 --> 00:26:50,091
Whatever happened to
the workers' comp stuff?
398
00:26:51,299 --> 00:26:53,439
Bad backs, spinal cord
injuries, broken legs.
399
00:26:55,165 --> 00:26:56,924
That stuff is easier.
400
00:26:56,925 --> 00:26:58,546
Then don't do it.
401
00:26:58,547 --> 00:26:59,790
Probably not worth it.
402
00:27:05,209 --> 00:27:06,417
I'm gonna bribe you.
403
00:27:08,696 --> 00:27:10,249
What do you really think?
404
00:27:12,665 --> 00:27:17,049
I think you either go
balls out or you scrap it.
405
00:27:18,498 --> 00:27:21,190
But I think you need to
make a decision right now.
406
00:27:21,191 --> 00:27:24,435
Is this about you or about
the kid that was killed?
407
00:27:26,955 --> 00:27:28,129
I want my penny back.
408
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:41,452
Smile.
409
00:27:43,731 --> 00:27:45,146
Honey, I'm trying to work.
410
00:27:45,974 --> 00:27:47,526
What?
411
00:27:47,527 --> 00:27:51,220
Look, this kid was killed
412
00:27:51,221 --> 00:27:53,015
at the Marshalltown
Police Department.
413
00:27:53,016 --> 00:27:55,224
They found his
body in the alley.
414
00:27:55,225 --> 00:27:56,847
So you think a cop did it?
415
00:27:58,538 --> 00:28:00,022
I don't know.
416
00:28:00,023 --> 00:28:04,371
I mean, they said he, they
said he tried to escape.
417
00:28:04,372 --> 00:28:07,271
So you would be prosecuting
the whole police department?
418
00:28:08,134 --> 00:28:09,169
The worse thing in the world
419
00:28:09,170 --> 00:28:11,102
would be to lose a child, Nancy.
420
00:28:11,103 --> 00:28:14,174
Honey, I don't wanna
be negative here,
421
00:28:14,175 --> 00:28:16,590
but what if you
do all this work,
422
00:28:16,591 --> 00:28:18,627
you go to trial, and you lose?
423
00:28:20,077 --> 00:28:25,082
Well, then we will pack
up, sell one of the cars.
424
00:28:27,636 --> 00:28:29,154
We will re-evaluate.
425
00:28:29,155 --> 00:28:33,089
We will, I don't know, we'll
get a two-bedroom apartment
426
00:28:33,090 --> 00:28:34,850
like we had after
we got married.
427
00:28:34,851 --> 00:28:37,336
Only this time we have
two children to support.
428
00:28:38,164 --> 00:28:39,406
All right, Nancy.
429
00:28:39,407 --> 00:28:41,719
I won't take the
case, then, okay?
430
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,583
I'll look for something
more manageable.
431
00:28:47,311 --> 00:28:48,311
Okay.
432
00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:07,815
Thank you.
433
00:29:08,712 --> 00:29:10,333
I apologize about Beverly.
434
00:29:10,334 --> 00:29:12,509
She just went shopping.
435
00:29:14,407 --> 00:29:16,755
She's got the clothes
bug the last couple days.
436
00:29:18,308 --> 00:29:21,414
I mean, she can spot
a sale like a hawk.
437
00:29:23,658 --> 00:29:27,454
Mr. Thacker, I
wanted to talk to you
438
00:29:27,455 --> 00:29:29,559
'cause I'm a little concerned.
This is the only house
439
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,528
that Kevin has ever
lived in, you know?
440
00:29:32,909 --> 00:29:36,050
A lot of people out there
today, there's just divorces,
441
00:29:37,534 --> 00:29:39,605
all kinds of things going
on with kids and families.
442
00:29:42,332 --> 00:29:44,196
We worked hard to
keep this together.
443
00:29:45,128 --> 00:29:46,128
You religious?
444
00:29:48,096 --> 00:29:53,101
Well, um, I believe in the
truth, wherever that leads you.
445
00:29:54,447 --> 00:29:56,759
Socrates is my hero.
446
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,796
- Socrates?
- Yeah.
447
00:29:59,349 --> 00:30:01,005
- You married?
- Yeah.
448
00:30:01,006 --> 00:30:02,006
Kids?
449
00:30:02,835 --> 00:30:04,387
Two boys.
450
00:30:04,388 --> 00:30:05,388
Four and six.
451
00:30:06,252 --> 00:30:07,840
A real handful, let me tell you.
452
00:30:11,913 --> 00:30:14,812
Yeah, Kevin was our youngest.
453
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:17,505
The rest are all married
and have kids of their own.
454
00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:26,479
He, uh, he was a surprise.
455
00:30:28,585 --> 00:30:29,655
We didn't expect him.
456
00:30:31,622 --> 00:30:33,347
He used to call me old,
457
00:30:33,348 --> 00:30:35,109
so I made him do
all the yard work.
458
00:30:37,456 --> 00:30:38,939
What line of work are you in?
459
00:30:38,940 --> 00:30:40,216
Hmm?
460
00:30:40,217 --> 00:30:41,493
What line of work are you in?
461
00:30:41,494 --> 00:30:43,013
Oh, I, um, retired early.
462
00:30:45,705 --> 00:30:47,846
I used to do maintenance
at Sears & Roebuck.
463
00:30:49,951 --> 00:30:54,576
And some ancillary work at the
Des Moines Police Department.
464
00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:00,928
Well, now I just soak
up my retirement fund.
465
00:31:02,550 --> 00:31:03,931
That's a good place to be.
466
00:31:05,622 --> 00:31:06,622
Not really.
467
00:31:10,661 --> 00:31:13,664
I went down there,
468
00:31:16,012 --> 00:31:17,806
the Marshalltown
Police Department,
469
00:31:20,119 --> 00:31:21,672
and I took a look for myself.
470
00:31:23,226 --> 00:31:27,506
There's no way any human being
could have made that jump.
471
00:31:28,921 --> 00:31:31,161
Kevin could barely stand on
one leg without falling down.
472
00:31:35,686 --> 00:31:38,758
Have you seen his
arresting officer, Dodge?
473
00:31:41,037 --> 00:31:42,037
How big he is?
474
00:31:45,144 --> 00:31:46,835
Sometimes, people just snap.
475
00:31:49,183 --> 00:31:51,598
It must've been a
struggle, he got scared.
476
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:53,256
You're damn right
he was scared.
477
00:31:54,636 --> 00:31:56,086
I was talking about the cop.
478
00:31:58,088 --> 00:32:00,125
I don't care how you
wanna slice the pie.
479
00:32:02,713 --> 00:32:03,713
Kevin's dead.
480
00:32:05,130 --> 00:32:07,546
And that guy is still out
there, walking around.
481
00:32:11,205 --> 00:32:14,586
I wanna show you
Kevin's room, come here.
482
00:32:14,587 --> 00:32:15,587
Come on.
483
00:32:26,358 --> 00:32:29,118
The day he died, Beverly
washed all his clothes,
484
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:32,743
and folded them, and put
them back in his dresser.
485
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:38,714
The Cubs was his favorite team.
486
00:32:38,715 --> 00:32:40,509
Ryne Sandberg's a
hell of a second baseman,
487
00:32:40,510 --> 00:32:41,751
isn't he?
488
00:32:41,752 --> 00:32:43,477
We'll see how
they do next year.
489
00:32:43,478 --> 00:32:44,963
Yeah, we sure will.
490
00:32:47,517 --> 00:32:48,725
I loved Wrigley Field.
491
00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:52,660
I was there for the
first time in 1938.
492
00:32:54,489 --> 00:32:56,422
I think they won the
pennant that year.
493
00:32:59,494 --> 00:33:00,702
That was before your time.
494
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,539
I want you and another
car to head downtown.
495
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:12,161
We got a real back-up
on Main Street.
496
00:33:12,162 --> 00:33:14,301
Just push all the traffic
west on Elm, all right?
497
00:33:14,302 --> 00:33:15,302
West on Elm.
498
00:33:21,654 --> 00:33:23,622
You want me
to go downtown, Chief?
499
00:33:25,244 --> 00:33:26,451
John, I think
you're a good cop,
500
00:33:26,452 --> 00:33:28,005
but I got this
thing on my plate.
501
00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:30,973
Seems we're being sued by
the Kevin Thacker estate.
502
00:33:30,974 --> 00:33:32,112
Seems like some people
got the wrong idea
503
00:33:32,113 --> 00:33:33,666
about what happened that night.
504
00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:36,704
He should've
ran the other way.
505
00:33:38,430 --> 00:33:39,740
You know, he told me
he was gonna end it.
506
00:33:39,741 --> 00:33:41,535
- End what?
- When I was booking him,
507
00:33:41,536 --> 00:33:44,469
he said, "I might
was well end it now."
508
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:45,746
And that's in the report?
509
00:33:45,747 --> 00:33:46,747
No.
510
00:33:47,956 --> 00:33:49,751
Ron, your stories
match, right?
511
00:33:50,856 --> 00:33:52,857
We did everything
that we could.
512
00:33:52,858 --> 00:33:55,722
Followed procedure,
prisoner escaped,
513
00:33:55,723 --> 00:33:57,931
Officer Dodge sounded the alarm.
514
00:33:57,932 --> 00:33:59,277
We had no idea
where the kid was.
515
00:33:59,278 --> 00:34:00,830
Yeah, I even
drove the ambulance.
516
00:34:00,831 --> 00:34:02,211
You know, next time, you
just stay at the station.
517
00:34:02,212 --> 00:34:04,455
He was dying, the guys
needed to be with him.
518
00:34:04,456 --> 00:34:05,698
I figure I should drive.
519
00:34:07,010 --> 00:34:08,010
All right.
520
00:34:09,012 --> 00:34:10,908
The lawyer's coming
tomorrow morning.
521
00:34:10,909 --> 00:34:12,187
As long as they
treat us with respect,
522
00:34:12,188 --> 00:34:14,189
there's gonna be no problem.
523
00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:16,122
We were trying to
save the kid's life.
524
00:34:16,123 --> 00:34:17,709
Well, yeah, the FBI
is gonna be involved,
525
00:34:17,710 --> 00:34:20,057
so just making sure that
your bases are all covered.
526
00:34:20,058 --> 00:34:22,818
Fine, they'll understand
how thorough I was.
527
00:34:22,819 --> 00:34:25,683
I took the pictures, I
gathered the evidence.
528
00:34:25,684 --> 00:34:28,064
All right, well,
if you're good, I'm good.
529
00:34:28,065 --> 00:34:28,996
Yeah, well, to
be honest with you,
530
00:34:28,997 --> 00:34:30,826
I thought this was done.
531
00:34:30,827 --> 00:34:32,311
Right, okay.
532
00:34:38,005 --> 00:34:39,005
Ron?
533
00:34:40,388 --> 00:34:41,527
Yeah, gimme a minute.
534
00:34:48,741 --> 00:34:51,640
I want you to put
your arms out like this.
535
00:34:51,641 --> 00:34:53,366
I want you to put
your head back,
536
00:34:53,367 --> 00:34:56,610
and with your index finger, I
want you to touch your nose.
537
00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:01,789
Do it with each side.
538
00:35:05,137 --> 00:35:09,382
All right, get your hands
out of your pockets.
539
00:35:09,383 --> 00:35:10,797
If it is your second DWI,
540
00:35:10,798 --> 00:35:15,319
your license will be
suspended for up to a year.
541
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,735
Oh.
I, I'm gonna
542
00:35:18,185 --> 00:35:19,117
I'm gonna go to the bathroom.
543
00:35:19,117 --> 00:35:19,876
You gotta go to the bathroom?
544
00:35:19,877 --> 00:35:20,877
Yeah.
545
00:35:20,878 --> 00:35:22,119
- You gonna get sick?
- No.
546
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,121
All right.
547
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:45,143
So I guess you took the case.
548
00:35:47,524 --> 00:35:48,524
Yeah.
549
00:35:49,285 --> 00:35:50,872
Even after all
we talked about?
550
00:35:54,152 --> 00:35:55,152
I had to.
551
00:36:08,890 --> 00:36:12,479
On the tape, Kevin asks to
use the bathroom at 1:15 a.m.
552
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,482
He's in the bathroom
for about two minutes.
553
00:36:15,483 --> 00:36:16,932
How do you know that?
554
00:36:16,933 --> 00:36:20,073
Well, because Dodge
thinks Kevin is coming back
555
00:36:20,074 --> 00:36:21,592
into the interrogation room,
556
00:36:21,593 --> 00:36:23,628
so he turns the camera back on.
557
00:36:23,629 --> 00:36:27,184
Now Kevin doesn't come back,
so Dodge starts to panic,
558
00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:30,221
he goes to search for Kevin,
and the tape is left on
559
00:36:30,222 --> 00:36:32,672
for an additional
minute and 15 seconds,
560
00:36:32,673 --> 00:36:34,950
then it's turned back off again.
561
00:36:34,951 --> 00:36:37,987
So it sounds like we have a
missing minute and 15 seconds.
562
00:36:37,988 --> 00:36:40,231
Right, but Dodge claimed
he found Kevin unconscious
563
00:36:40,232 --> 00:36:42,026
at 1:24 a.m.
564
00:36:42,027 --> 00:36:44,408
That gives us a
missing eight minutes.
565
00:36:44,409 --> 00:36:48,205
That's enough time to stage
a fall, do a cover-up.
566
00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:49,482
That's also enough time
567
00:36:49,483 --> 00:36:51,173
to climb the roof
and make the jump.
568
00:36:51,174 --> 00:36:52,347
Well, we're about to see
569
00:36:52,348 --> 00:36:53,935
how possible that
really is, aren't we?
570
00:37:12,264 --> 00:37:15,093
I am the angel
on your shoulder.
571
00:37:15,094 --> 00:37:16,234
You're an angel, huh?
572
00:37:17,821 --> 00:37:19,444
I have big
fuckin' angel wings.
573
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:23,655
I could have made that jump.
574
00:37:27,175 --> 00:37:28,970
Still got his
blood on my uniform.
575
00:37:30,075 --> 00:37:31,076
Didn't wash out.
576
00:37:32,664 --> 00:37:34,768
So much blood came
out of his head.
577
00:37:34,769 --> 00:37:38,910
Hey, you're acting like
you've never seen blood before.
578
00:37:38,911 --> 00:37:41,741
Now listen, in the future,
you follow the prisoner,
579
00:37:41,742 --> 00:37:43,018
the prisoner doesn't follow you.
580
00:37:43,019 --> 00:37:45,434
You're right,
it was a mistake.
581
00:37:45,435 --> 00:37:46,918
Then why are you
looking so fucking scared?
582
00:37:46,919 --> 00:37:48,782
I don't look fucking scared.
583
00:37:48,783 --> 00:37:50,578
I think you got
on a lot of faces,
584
00:37:51,924 --> 00:37:53,132
but never the right one.
585
00:37:56,274 --> 00:37:58,276
You're a cop, look like a cop.
586
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:13,290
Captain.
587
00:38:15,741 --> 00:38:17,501
Mr. Pepper, I'm Chief Wilson.
588
00:38:17,502 --> 00:38:18,743
Stu.
589
00:38:18,744 --> 00:38:19,882
This is Greg Potter,
he's our city attorney.
590
00:38:19,883 --> 00:38:21,159
Greg, Stu Pepper.
591
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,471
This is Monica Wright,
an associate of mine.
592
00:38:22,472 --> 00:38:23,404
Pleasure, ma'am.
593
00:38:23,405 --> 00:38:24,887
How can we help you folks?
594
00:38:24,888 --> 00:38:26,303
Just wanted to take
a look at that roof,
595
00:38:26,304 --> 00:38:27,856
maybe take some pictures.
596
00:38:27,857 --> 00:38:29,098
Hope you didn't think
597
00:38:29,099 --> 00:38:30,739
you were gonna take
any depositions today.
598
00:38:32,171 --> 00:38:35,071
No, no, just wanted to know
the right questions to ask.
599
00:38:40,145 --> 00:38:41,491
According to their version,
600
00:38:42,872 --> 00:38:45,701
two officers searched the
basement then the upper floors,
601
00:38:45,702 --> 00:38:47,117
but they never came up here.
602
00:38:59,820 --> 00:39:02,062
So he walked across here,
603
00:39:02,063 --> 00:39:04,859
no running start, and jumped
over to the other building?
604
00:39:12,798 --> 00:39:14,420
That's a really long jump.
605
00:39:14,421 --> 00:39:16,457
That's very, very far.
606
00:39:17,907 --> 00:39:19,148
But he does, however,
607
00:39:19,149 --> 00:39:21,323
drop the cigarette and
lighter over there.
608
00:39:21,324 --> 00:39:22,462
Why didn't they
just say that he fell?
609
00:39:22,463 --> 00:39:23,913
I mean, I don't get it.
610
00:39:25,466 --> 00:39:27,364
Injuries aside,
we have to prove
611
00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:30,195
that Kevin was never
on that other building.
612
00:40:15,205 --> 00:40:16,274
- Where are you going?
- Hmm?
613
00:40:16,275 --> 00:40:17,897
I was just getting started.
614
00:40:17,898 --> 00:40:18,898
Oh, you.
615
00:40:42,336 --> 00:40:45,442
Our greatest
hope for the future
616
00:40:45,443 --> 00:40:47,513
are the minds and
hearts of our people,
617
00:40:47,514 --> 00:40:49,687
especially our children.
618
00:40:49,688 --> 00:40:52,518
We can help them build tomorrow
619
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:55,555
by strengthening our
community of shared values.
620
00:40:55,556 --> 00:40:58,765
Values that help bring us
together as one people,
621
00:40:58,766 --> 00:41:01,492
from the youngest child to
the most senior citizen.
622
00:41:01,493 --> 00:41:05,876
For us, faith, work, family,
neighborhood, freedom...
623
00:41:05,877 --> 00:41:08,326
Oh, there he is, Mr. Pepper.
624
00:41:08,327 --> 00:41:09,500
Congratulations
on your appointment.
625
00:41:09,501 --> 00:41:10,468
I appreciate that.
626
00:41:10,469 --> 00:41:11,917
I appreciate that, come on back.
627
00:41:15,438 --> 00:41:17,750
Yeah, it is finally
our turn again.
628
00:41:17,751 --> 00:41:19,199
We're excited.
629
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,031
Did you see Reagan's
State of the Union address
630
00:41:23,032 --> 00:41:24,411
the other night?
631
00:41:24,412 --> 00:41:27,000
"America, in the crimson
light of a rising sun,
632
00:41:27,001 --> 00:41:29,659
"fresh from the burning,
creative hand of God."
633
00:41:32,351 --> 00:41:34,214
I guess we watched
the same show.
634
00:41:34,215 --> 00:41:35,216
I helped write it.
635
00:41:37,943 --> 00:41:38,943
Hmm.
636
00:41:40,187 --> 00:41:44,052
Well, you're aware of my suit
against the Marshalltown PD?
637
00:41:44,053 --> 00:41:45,916
I sure am, my friend.
638
00:41:45,917 --> 00:41:48,332
I wanted to give you
a heads up on that.
639
00:41:48,333 --> 00:41:50,507
I'm filing 15 counts,
640
00:41:50,508 --> 00:41:52,336
and when I get the
Thackers their judgment,
641
00:41:52,337 --> 00:41:54,511
I would hope that your department
would wanna follow through
642
00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:56,754
on the prosecution of
the men responsible.
643
00:41:56,755 --> 00:41:58,723
I'll do what's best
for my department.
644
00:42:01,104 --> 00:42:03,761
You do plan on
investigating the case?
645
00:42:03,762 --> 00:42:06,765
We'll take a look at the case,
we will proceed from there.
646
00:42:07,663 --> 00:42:08,871
Do the family a favor,
647
00:42:10,528 --> 00:42:13,909
have out of town agents
do the investigation.
648
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:16,015
Don't wanna risk a connection
with the local cops
649
00:42:16,016 --> 00:42:18,604
and conflict of interests.
650
00:42:18,605 --> 00:42:22,022
Sounds like you've been
bitten in the ass before, huh?
651
00:42:23,368 --> 00:42:26,026
Yeah, that's why I
wanted to come talk to you.
652
00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,200
You're the assistant to
the attorney general,
653
00:42:29,201 --> 00:42:33,032
and this is gonna be
a high-profile case.
654
00:42:33,033 --> 00:42:35,552
You know, maybe they'll
put you on TV, huh?
655
00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:37,209
Be good for your
practice, right?
656
00:42:38,832 --> 00:42:39,832
Sure would.
657
00:42:42,180 --> 00:42:44,630
Let me know when you assign
an agent to the case.
658
00:42:44,631 --> 00:42:47,116
Well, Mr. Pepper, are you
asking me or are you telling me?
659
00:42:50,222 --> 00:42:52,603
Whichever answer keeps
this conversation going.
660
00:42:52,604 --> 00:42:55,055
Well, I think you're
asking, so it's noted.
661
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:57,540
Good luck with your case, huh?
662
00:43:05,410 --> 00:43:08,205
The only good is knowledge
663
00:43:08,206 --> 00:43:10,795
and the only evil is ignorance.
664
00:43:12,175 --> 00:43:16,454
I wanted to understand
Kevin Thacker, talk to him,
665
00:43:16,455 --> 00:43:19,250
but the light ahead
was beginning to fade.
666
00:43:19,251 --> 00:43:23,323
My own life out of balance,
looking for a truth
667
00:43:23,324 --> 00:43:26,533
while everyone else turned
a deaf ear and a blind eye.
668
00:43:26,534 --> 00:43:28,121
Just trying to keep
my head above water
669
00:43:28,122 --> 00:43:29,917
was proving more
and more difficult.
670
00:43:30,884 --> 00:43:31,987
How you doing?
671
00:43:31,988 --> 00:43:33,506
All right,
gentlemen, listen up.
672
00:43:33,507 --> 00:43:34,990
Any of you guys
think you can jump
673
00:43:34,991 --> 00:43:39,409
from the end of the
starting block to that rope
674
00:43:40,652 --> 00:43:41,860
without a running start?
675
00:43:43,206 --> 00:43:44,206
Sure.
676
00:43:45,657 --> 00:43:47,416
I took track and
field in high school.
677
00:43:47,417 --> 00:43:48,694
Yeah?
678
00:43:48,695 --> 00:43:50,765
Yeah, what do I
get if I make it?
679
00:43:50,766 --> 00:43:52,145
You get the dean's
list, O'Brien.
680
00:43:52,146 --> 00:43:53,147
You're up, let's go.
681
00:43:54,355 --> 00:43:56,426
And don't laugh, all of
you gonna get your shot.
682
00:44:01,984 --> 00:44:04,642
Don't mess up, don't mess up.
683
00:44:08,853 --> 00:44:09,785
Yeah?
684
00:44:09,786 --> 00:44:11,095
Let's see if you can do it.
685
00:44:11,096 --> 00:44:12,096
Zach.
686
00:44:15,411 --> 00:44:16,895
You guys, come on.
687
00:44:19,691 --> 00:44:20,691
Come on.
688
00:44:24,144 --> 00:44:25,801
Now, that's right.
689
00:44:27,699 --> 00:44:30,321
So how do you think they'd
do with a belly full of beer
690
00:44:30,322 --> 00:44:32,323
and a police officer
on their tail?
691
00:44:32,324 --> 00:44:33,324
No way.
692
00:44:36,708 --> 00:44:39,158
Marshalltown
PD's whole defense
693
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:41,539
hinges on this jump, Monica.
694
00:44:41,540 --> 00:44:43,231
Put the swim
coach on the stand.
695
00:44:43,232 --> 00:44:45,717
The field test obviously
speaks for itself.
696
00:44:47,201 --> 00:44:48,995
The state medical
examiner said Kevin's body
697
00:44:48,996 --> 00:44:53,103
had no other injuries besides
the trauma to the brain.
698
00:44:53,104 --> 00:44:56,037
And not even a low board
diver can make that jump.
699
00:44:56,038 --> 00:44:57,832
Much less Kevin Thacker.
700
00:44:57,833 --> 00:45:01,663
Right, but Kevin obviously did
701
00:45:01,664 --> 00:45:02,940
because of the
menthol cigarette.
702
00:45:02,941 --> 00:45:04,978
- That was planted.
- Exactly.
703
00:45:07,566 --> 00:45:11,742
Okay, okay, so what
do we have, then?
704
00:45:11,743 --> 00:45:14,227
Well, that gives us the
power to convince a jury that
705
00:45:14,228 --> 00:45:16,989
a, Kevin could never
have made that jump.
706
00:45:16,990 --> 00:45:21,097
And b, his injuries don't
reflect a fall of 24 feet.
707
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,444
He was killed by blunt force.
708
00:45:24,445 --> 00:45:26,032
Kevin was drunk.
709
00:45:26,033 --> 00:45:27,827
One officer found the body.
710
00:45:27,828 --> 00:45:30,899
And they were in the perfect
position for a cover-up.
711
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:32,591
Yes, Monica, yes.
712
00:45:33,765 --> 00:45:34,972
All right, let's go
through this again.
713
00:45:34,973 --> 00:45:36,318
What do we have?
Oh, we got a lot.
714
00:45:36,319 --> 00:45:37,975
Somehow, Kevin's body ends up
715
00:45:37,976 --> 00:45:40,219
parallel to the building.
In order to stage the fall-
716
00:45:40,220 --> 00:45:41,634
- Dodge had to have
moved the body,
717
00:45:41,635 --> 00:45:43,235
because of the bruises
under the armpits.
718
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:05,900
Hey, Nance.
719
00:46:09,421 --> 00:46:10,421
Bert?
720
00:46:13,046 --> 00:46:14,046
Clark?
721
00:46:26,991 --> 00:46:27,991
Hey.
722
00:46:29,959 --> 00:46:30,995
Where are the kids?
723
00:46:31,892 --> 00:46:33,066
They're at my mother's.
724
00:46:35,068 --> 00:46:37,621
You took them all the
way to your mother's?
725
00:46:37,622 --> 00:46:40,003
God, I was in a good mood,
726
00:46:40,004 --> 00:46:41,418
I wanted to share
that with my family,
727
00:46:41,419 --> 00:46:44,421
and I get an empty house.
728
00:46:44,422 --> 00:46:46,906
I wanted to spend some
time with you alone.
729
00:46:46,907 --> 00:46:48,495
You haven't exactly
been available.
730
00:46:50,462 --> 00:46:53,051
Clark has a birthday
coming up, or did you forget?
731
00:46:56,330 --> 00:47:00,264
I bust my ass, trying
to make a living for you,
732
00:47:00,265 --> 00:47:01,507
trying to do what's right.
733
00:47:01,508 --> 00:47:04,061
That's a lawyer,
Stu, not a husband.
734
00:47:04,062 --> 00:47:06,995
You know, some people
might disagree with you.
735
00:47:06,996 --> 00:47:08,307
What do I get?
736
00:47:08,308 --> 00:47:10,103
I get an empty fucking house.
737
00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:12,863
What the hell are you doing?
738
00:47:12,864 --> 00:47:14,584
Dammit, I'm trying
to get this thing open.
739
00:47:17,696 --> 00:47:18,836
Jesus Christ.
740
00:47:23,392 --> 00:47:24,392
Fuck.
741
00:47:53,525 --> 00:47:54,906
Nancy, I'm sorry.
742
00:48:53,344 --> 00:48:54,965
Why did you arrest
Kevin Thacker?
743
00:48:54,966 --> 00:48:56,346
He was swerving on the road.
744
00:48:56,347 --> 00:48:59,004
I witnessed him almost
hit a parked vehicle.
745
00:48:59,005 --> 00:49:01,283
He was pretty drunk, so
it was a good arrest.
746
00:49:02,215 --> 00:49:03,767
What does a good arrest mean?
747
00:49:03,768 --> 00:49:06,390
That means that
you follow protocol.
748
00:49:06,391 --> 00:49:09,911
So, how did he act when you
took him into the station?
749
00:49:09,912 --> 00:49:11,395
He was nervous.
750
00:49:11,396 --> 00:49:12,949
Most are at that age.
751
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:15,192
No screaming, no crying?
752
00:49:15,193 --> 00:49:16,193
None at all.
753
00:49:17,437 --> 00:49:20,474
If everything
followed protocol,
754
00:49:21,751 --> 00:49:23,305
how did it result in his death?
755
00:49:25,479 --> 00:49:26,859
That's a good question.
756
00:49:26,860 --> 00:49:28,447
Because you must have
dealt with criminals
757
00:49:28,448 --> 00:49:29,689
much worse than Kevin.
758
00:49:29,690 --> 00:49:30,691
Sure, I have.
759
00:49:32,107 --> 00:49:34,556
Oh, and by the way, there was
a warrant out for his arrest
760
00:49:34,557 --> 00:49:35,973
when I ran his license.
761
00:49:38,182 --> 00:49:39,492
For what?
762
00:49:39,493 --> 00:49:40,631
He didn't make a court date
763
00:49:40,632 --> 00:49:42,185
two weeks prior to the incident.
764
00:49:42,186 --> 00:49:44,395
It was a speeding violation.
765
00:49:46,431 --> 00:49:48,606
And I treated him like
any other offender.
766
00:49:49,814 --> 00:49:52,023
But you were the last
person to see him alive.
767
00:49:53,956 --> 00:49:55,336
The only mistake I made was
768
00:49:55,337 --> 00:49:58,580
to give him more credit
than he deserved.
769
00:49:58,581 --> 00:49:59,581
He was no criminal.
770
00:50:00,928 --> 00:50:03,654
I really thought he was gonna
walk back into the room,
771
00:50:03,655 --> 00:50:04,655
but he didn't.
772
00:50:05,795 --> 00:50:08,659
I found him unconscious
seven minutes later.
773
00:50:08,660 --> 00:50:10,696
How am I supposed to be
held liable for that?
774
00:50:10,697 --> 00:50:13,009
When dispatch called you,
you didn't pick up your radio.
775
00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:14,010
Is that correct?
776
00:50:14,977 --> 00:50:16,667
How do you know that?
777
00:50:16,668 --> 00:50:17,980
Oh, I've got the logs.
778
00:50:19,568 --> 00:50:22,088
Well, there was too much
interference in the building.
779
00:50:23,192 --> 00:50:24,503
Interference.
780
00:50:24,504 --> 00:50:26,747
Yeah, too much
interference in the building.
781
00:50:29,854 --> 00:50:32,338
So, did you interview
all the relevant witnesses
782
00:50:32,339 --> 00:50:33,615
and people involved?
783
00:50:33,616 --> 00:50:34,616
Yes, I did.
784
00:50:37,137 --> 00:50:39,276
So, it was your claim
785
00:50:39,277 --> 00:50:41,037
that Kevin walked to
the end of that beam
786
00:50:41,038 --> 00:50:44,040
and jumped from one
rooftop to the next?
787
00:50:44,041 --> 00:50:45,939
That distance, that drunk.
788
00:50:47,044 --> 00:50:48,975
People do stupid things.
789
00:50:48,976 --> 00:50:50,184
Look, the long
and short of it is
790
00:50:50,185 --> 00:50:51,737
I did a thorough investigation,
791
00:50:51,738 --> 00:50:54,119
and everyone behaved
professionally and promptly.
792
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,465
From the behavior
of your department,
793
00:50:55,466 --> 00:50:57,018
I find that hard to believe.
794
00:50:57,019 --> 00:50:58,261
We have already acknowledged
795
00:50:58,262 --> 00:51:00,333
that certain procedural
mistakes were made.
796
00:51:01,713 --> 00:51:03,818
Yeah, and if this is
about questioning my skills
797
00:51:03,819 --> 00:51:05,199
as a detective, quite frankly,
798
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,201
you have no idea
what that entails.
799
00:51:07,202 --> 00:51:09,893
What do you have to
gain from this case?
800
00:51:09,894 --> 00:51:11,101
What do you have to gain?
801
00:51:11,102 --> 00:51:12,482
Why don't you let
me ask the questions?
802
00:51:12,483 --> 00:51:13,346
Besides money?
803
00:51:13,347 --> 00:51:15,485
Reputation, justice.
804
00:51:15,486 --> 00:51:19,558
Look, just because you keep
a clean image, Mr. Pebble,
805
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:21,422
it doesn't mean
you're above the law.
806
00:51:21,423 --> 00:51:23,803
You're putting on an act,
sir, and I think you enjoy it.
807
00:51:23,804 --> 00:51:25,115
- Counselor.
- Do you know anything
808
00:51:25,116 --> 00:51:26,116
about this kid?
809
00:51:27,601 --> 00:51:29,465
Did you speak to his boyfriend?
810
00:51:31,018 --> 00:51:31,916
I'm sorry?
811
00:51:31,917 --> 00:51:34,607
Eric Jones, I did.
812
00:51:34,608 --> 00:51:36,403
Kevin went to visit
him that night.
813
00:51:37,991 --> 00:51:39,716
It was a closeted relationship.
814
00:51:39,717 --> 00:51:42,650
They weren't like
flaming fags or anything,
815
00:51:42,651 --> 00:51:45,170
but he was quite a character.
816
00:51:45,171 --> 00:51:48,414
Now, Eric told me that
Kevin was depressed
817
00:51:48,415 --> 00:51:50,382
and had a drinking problem.
818
00:51:50,383 --> 00:51:51,969
And Officer Dodge said that
819
00:51:51,970 --> 00:51:54,351
the kid said he wanted to end
it during the DUI processing.
820
00:51:54,352 --> 00:51:57,528
So when you're in that state
of mind, anything can happen.
821
00:52:00,738 --> 00:52:02,463
Hey, all right, do me a favor,
822
00:52:02,464 --> 00:52:04,154
find out where Eric Jones lives.
823
00:52:04,155 --> 00:52:05,811
- Yeah.
- Who's our judge?
824
00:52:05,812 --> 00:52:07,952
Hallow, he used
to be city attorney.
825
00:52:26,384 --> 00:52:27,384
Hello?
826
00:52:28,973 --> 00:52:29,973
Hello?
827
00:52:31,044 --> 00:52:32,044
Eric?
828
00:52:35,842 --> 00:52:37,602
I'm the lawyer in
the Thacker case.
829
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,503
Did you know Kevin Thacker?
830
00:52:42,504 --> 00:52:44,781
You know, I'm having a
party with myself right now,
831
00:52:44,782 --> 00:52:47,232
and you two, you're just,
you're not invited, okay?
832
00:52:47,233 --> 00:52:50,856
Hey, hey, listen, we
can do this two ways.
833
00:52:50,857 --> 00:52:53,859
You can talk to me now or I can
have you officially deposed,
834
00:52:53,860 --> 00:52:55,895
we'll do it at the
police station.
835
00:52:55,896 --> 00:52:57,381
I already talked to the cops.
836
00:52:59,210 --> 00:53:00,383
Marshalltown cops?
837
00:53:00,384 --> 00:53:02,212
No, Columbo.
838
00:53:02,213 --> 00:53:05,112
Eric, just a couple
of minutes, please?
839
00:53:07,805 --> 00:53:09,220
All right, fine, back here.
840
00:53:13,845 --> 00:53:17,814
So all they told me is
that he was arrested drunk
841
00:53:17,815 --> 00:53:20,680
and fell off the roof.
842
00:53:23,579 --> 00:53:26,616
I mean, I didn't push him
or nothing, I swear to God.
843
00:53:26,617 --> 00:53:31,622
Yeah, but he came to
Marshalltown to see you, right?
844
00:53:32,485 --> 00:53:33,726
I mean, that's why he was here.
845
00:53:33,727 --> 00:53:35,177
He came here first.
846
00:53:37,110 --> 00:53:38,559
How do you know that?
847
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,459
Well, 'cause I talked to
the same cop as you, Columbo.
848
00:53:44,945 --> 00:53:46,774
I owed him some money.
849
00:53:46,775 --> 00:53:50,330
And he was kind of impatient
little guy, you know.
850
00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:54,817
I want my fucking money, Eric!
851
00:53:58,476 --> 00:53:59,683
Kevin,
852
00:53:59,684 --> 00:54:01,237
God rest his soul and all,
853
00:54:01,238 --> 00:54:03,067
he's what you'd
call unpredictable.
854
00:54:03,930 --> 00:54:04,930
How's that?
855
00:54:05,897 --> 00:54:07,898
You never knew
what he was gonna do.
856
00:54:07,899 --> 00:54:10,694
Like try to escape
from the police?
857
00:54:10,695 --> 00:54:12,972
Yeah, that sounds
a lot like him.
858
00:54:12,973 --> 00:54:15,699
I suppose if you were
asked that same question
859
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:19,290
in a deposition or in a court,
you'd have the same answer.
860
00:54:20,187 --> 00:54:21,603
Might be worse, actually.
861
00:54:24,295 --> 00:54:26,331
Are you hiding
something, Eric?
862
00:54:26,332 --> 00:54:27,953
I'm not hiding anything, okay?
863
00:54:27,954 --> 00:54:29,989
I mean, I tried to take
care of him, you know?
864
00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:32,992
He'd come over here,
he'd spend the night.
865
00:54:32,993 --> 00:54:35,720
The kid would flip out all
night long, crying and shit.
866
00:54:39,517 --> 00:54:42,796
And I think he was very scared
about who he really was.
867
00:54:46,835 --> 00:54:48,284
He must have been terrified
868
00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:50,494
sitting in that interrogation
room, I'll tell you that.
869
00:54:56,776 --> 00:54:57,776
When he died,
870
00:55:01,056 --> 00:55:02,471
I couldn't go to the funeral.
871
00:55:04,266 --> 00:55:05,819
I didn't wanna see his parents.
872
00:55:10,168 --> 00:55:11,652
You know, Kevin,
873
00:55:11,653 --> 00:55:13,653
he wouldn't have wanted me
there anyways, you know.
874
00:55:16,243 --> 00:55:18,314
So, that's all I am gonna say.
875
00:55:18,315 --> 00:55:20,247
You want any more,
you gotta expose me.
876
00:55:21,628 --> 00:55:22,628
Depose you.
877
00:55:24,182 --> 00:55:25,424
Shall we?
878
00:55:25,425 --> 00:55:26,495
Yeah.
879
00:55:29,498 --> 00:55:31,568
He had a gold leaf on them.
880
00:55:31,569 --> 00:55:32,776
I know.
881
00:55:32,777 --> 00:55:34,226
Come.
882
00:55:34,227 --> 00:55:35,779
- Judge Hallow?
- Yes.
883
00:55:35,780 --> 00:55:37,988
Stu Pepper, Your Honor, the
lawyer in the Thacker case.
884
00:55:37,989 --> 00:55:38,989
Oh.
885
00:55:40,095 --> 00:55:41,267
Greg.
886
00:55:41,268 --> 00:55:42,476
You're here on
Officer Dodge's motion
887
00:55:42,477 --> 00:55:43,891
for summary judgment.
888
00:55:43,892 --> 00:55:45,030
I am.
889
00:55:45,031 --> 00:55:48,344
15 counts, Mr.
Pepper, very ambitious.
890
00:55:48,345 --> 00:55:49,621
It is.
891
00:55:49,622 --> 00:55:51,727
Your Honor, I move for
dismissal of all counts.
892
00:55:53,350 --> 00:55:55,730
I'm throwing out
14 of the counts.
893
00:55:55,731 --> 00:55:57,318
Why?
894
00:55:57,319 --> 00:55:59,320
Insufficient evidence.
895
00:55:59,321 --> 00:56:00,494
It's all circumstantial.
896
00:56:00,495 --> 00:56:02,082
Didn't you learn
that in law school?
897
00:56:04,291 --> 00:56:07,086
You're throwing out
14 out of 15 counts?
898
00:56:07,087 --> 00:56:10,020
Okay, what count
are you keeping?
899
00:56:10,021 --> 00:56:12,368
Excessive force, barely.
900
00:56:12,369 --> 00:56:13,817
Your Honor, can I be frank?
901
00:56:13,818 --> 00:56:15,129
If you must.
902
00:56:15,130 --> 00:56:17,269
You used to be city
attorney, correct?
903
00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:21,169
You used to be him,
defending these guys.
904
00:56:21,170 --> 00:56:24,450
Is there any chance this could
be a conflict of interest?
905
00:56:29,834 --> 00:56:31,110
Are you hinting
906
00:56:31,111 --> 00:56:33,390
I may not be fair and
impartial, Mr. Pepper?
907
00:56:35,668 --> 00:56:38,911
You've got a case to prepare,
and people to answer to.
908
00:56:38,912 --> 00:56:40,188
Exactly how smart is it
909
00:56:40,189 --> 00:56:42,087
to piss off the judge
before the trial?
910
00:56:42,088 --> 00:56:43,710
I'm not trying
to piss you off.
911
00:56:45,194 --> 00:56:47,920
And I'll take your one
count of excessive force
912
00:56:47,921 --> 00:56:51,027
because that's all I
need to win this case.
913
00:56:51,028 --> 00:56:53,548
Thank you, gentlemen, I
will see you both in court.
914
00:56:58,242 --> 00:57:00,346
But don't worry
about it getting dirty.
915
00:57:00,347 --> 00:57:03,108
I have to take things to the
cleaners every once in a while.
916
00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:04,766
I like your scarf too.
917
00:57:12,463 --> 00:57:14,638
Why aren't you sleeping?
918
00:57:17,882 --> 00:57:19,159
I don't know.
919
00:57:23,647 --> 00:57:27,064
Nance, um, I'm not
sure what to do.
920
00:57:31,793 --> 00:57:34,347
I got an FBI director
that could care less,
921
00:57:35,693 --> 00:57:38,454
got a judge that throws
out 95% of my counts,
922
00:57:38,455 --> 00:57:43,460
same judge who used to make
his living defending cops.
923
00:57:44,564 --> 00:57:46,014
Wow, baby, I'm so sorry.
924
00:57:52,123 --> 00:57:54,815
I just want you to be careful.
925
00:57:54,816 --> 00:57:57,888
Think about what it means
to prosecute cop after cop.
926
00:57:59,303 --> 00:58:03,099
Stu, these people can
make our lives miserable.
927
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:06,655
Yeah, but they're already
making people's lives miserable.
928
00:58:10,107 --> 00:58:11,764
Somebody's gotta take a stand.
929
00:58:14,249 --> 00:58:17,494
You don't have to
do it tonight, hmm?
930
00:58:19,254 --> 00:58:21,359
Come on, let's go to bed.
931
00:58:30,990 --> 00:58:32,128
All right, break it up.
932
00:58:32,129 --> 00:58:33,786
Break it up, I said.
933
00:59:03,747 --> 00:59:06,819
An honest man
is always a child.
934
00:59:07,716 --> 00:59:08,993
But it's even simpler.
935
00:59:10,201 --> 00:59:12,825
What has been lost and
what has been gained?
936
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,552
I was close to the Thackers,
937
00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:19,383
seeing my own image
in their loss.
938
00:59:20,798 --> 00:59:23,386
I never knew if I was their
last stop on a long list
939
00:59:23,387 --> 00:59:25,562
that I just happened
to be at the bottom of.
940
00:59:26,770 --> 00:59:29,599
I was learning that the
self-doubt, the anxiety,
941
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,085
sleepless nights, time
away from my own family
942
00:59:33,086 --> 00:59:36,055
was to be expected if
I was going to succeed.
943
00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:39,091
I had become close
to a young man
944
00:59:39,092 --> 00:59:42,094
who I have never had
the opportunity to meet.
945
00:59:42,095 --> 00:59:44,132
His justice rests
on my shoulders.
946
00:59:47,514 --> 00:59:51,277
I can't raise the dead, but
I have to speak for them.
947
01:00:16,923 --> 01:00:20,512
Jury members, you are
being asked to decide
948
01:00:20,513 --> 01:00:22,721
whether excessive force was used
949
01:00:22,722 --> 01:00:24,482
during the arrest
of Kevin Thacker.
950
01:00:25,622 --> 01:00:27,174
The city attorneys
will attempt to prove
951
01:00:27,175 --> 01:00:30,936
that Mr. Thacker escaped
custody during his booking,
952
01:00:30,937 --> 01:00:34,078
and died accidentally
during this getaway.
953
01:00:35,562 --> 01:00:37,702
The attorneys for the
Thackers will attempt to prove
954
01:00:37,703 --> 01:00:39,876
that the head trauma he incurred
955
01:00:39,877 --> 01:00:42,259
could not have happened
the way it was reported.
956
01:00:43,363 --> 01:00:45,675
It is your charge to determine
957
01:00:45,676 --> 01:00:47,264
what you believe the truth is.
958
01:01:12,116 --> 01:01:14,740
Mr. Pepper, please call
your first witness.
959
01:01:16,258 --> 01:01:18,744
Your Honor, I'd like to
call Officer John Dodge.
960
01:01:21,816 --> 01:01:25,611
Officer Dodge, let me
start out by asking you
961
01:01:25,612 --> 01:01:27,476
a very simple question.
962
01:01:30,687 --> 01:01:31,687
Go ahead.
963
01:01:33,482 --> 01:01:34,724
Do you normally
brush your teeth
964
01:01:34,725 --> 01:01:36,623
before you go to
work in the morning?
965
01:01:37,866 --> 01:01:38,866
Yes.
966
01:01:41,628 --> 01:01:43,320
And have you
ever killed anyone?
967
01:01:47,013 --> 01:01:48,324
Yes, I have.
968
01:01:48,325 --> 01:01:51,603
I was in the 25th
Infantry Division
969
01:01:51,604 --> 01:01:53,848
at Cu Chi and Da Nang, Vietnam.
970
01:01:55,332 --> 01:01:58,265
And in what manner
971
01:01:58,266 --> 01:02:01,165
did you perform these
killings in Vietnam?
972
01:02:02,270 --> 01:02:06,031
With my rifle,
sometimes my bayonet.
973
01:02:06,032 --> 01:02:07,378
All in self-defense.
974
01:02:09,726 --> 01:02:10,967
Oh.
975
01:02:10,968 --> 01:02:14,937
Just to be clear for
the jury, self-defense?
976
01:02:14,938 --> 01:02:18,250
I learned to make quick
decisions in delicate situations.
977
01:02:18,251 --> 01:02:20,597
I guess that's why
I became a cop.
978
01:02:20,598 --> 01:02:24,223
Quick decisions in
delicate situations, hmm.
979
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:27,708
What's your height and weight?
980
01:02:27,709 --> 01:02:30,055
6'1", 210 pounds.
981
01:02:30,056 --> 01:02:34,784
And Kevin Thacker
was 5'7", 133 pounds.
982
01:02:34,785 --> 01:02:38,132
That's quite a
difference, isn't it?
983
01:02:38,133 --> 01:02:39,962
Well, I'm bigger
than most people,
984
01:02:39,963 --> 01:02:41,965
so it's no surprise to me.
985
01:02:43,138 --> 01:02:47,072
On the night of
October 29th, 1983,
986
01:02:47,073 --> 01:02:48,764
did a struggle occur
in the alleyway
987
01:02:48,765 --> 01:02:50,455
behind the Marshalltown
Police Department
988
01:02:50,456 --> 01:02:52,250
between yourself
and Kevin Thacker?
989
01:02:52,251 --> 01:02:53,561
No, it did not.
990
01:02:53,562 --> 01:02:55,253
And during that struggle,
991
01:02:55,254 --> 01:02:57,703
being a man of your
size and experience,
992
01:02:57,704 --> 01:03:00,051
you struck Kevin on the left
side of the head killing him.
993
01:03:00,052 --> 01:03:01,052
Is that correct?
994
01:03:02,123 --> 01:03:03,193
No, I did not.
995
01:03:04,608 --> 01:03:06,713
I was simply trying to
find an escaped prisoner.
996
01:03:15,067 --> 01:03:18,001
Prisoner is loose
in the building.
997
01:03:30,461 --> 01:03:31,461
Shit.
998
01:03:45,338 --> 01:03:46,338
Shit.
999
01:03:49,756 --> 01:03:50,827
Call an ambulance.
1000
01:03:53,139 --> 01:03:54,139
Ah, Kevin.
1001
01:04:00,629 --> 01:04:04,287
From the time that
Kevin asked to use the bathroom,
1002
01:04:04,288 --> 01:04:07,290
to the time that you
found him unconscious,
1003
01:04:07,291 --> 01:04:11,743
that was approximately
seven minutes, correct?
1004
01:04:11,744 --> 01:04:13,227
Yes, that's right.
1005
01:04:13,228 --> 01:04:15,091
He was in the bathroom for
just under two minutes.
1006
01:04:15,092 --> 01:04:16,852
And we were walking out,
1007
01:04:16,853 --> 01:04:19,889
I went to turn the
video camera back on,
1008
01:04:19,890 --> 01:04:22,616
and then I realized
that he had fled.
1009
01:04:22,617 --> 01:04:25,308
After a search, I came
back a minute later
1010
01:04:25,309 --> 01:04:26,689
to turn the camera off,
1011
01:04:26,690 --> 01:04:29,830
and with the assistance
of other officers,
1012
01:04:29,831 --> 01:04:31,659
did another search.
1013
01:04:31,660 --> 01:04:33,869
Well, why bother to
come all the way back
1014
01:04:33,870 --> 01:04:35,525
to turn the video camera off?
1015
01:04:35,526 --> 01:04:37,286
There was nobody
was in the room.
1016
01:04:37,287 --> 01:04:38,563
It was an instinct.
1017
01:04:38,564 --> 01:04:40,116
And we all have
certain instincts
1018
01:04:40,117 --> 01:04:43,326
that force us to do
certain things, correct?
1019
01:04:43,327 --> 01:04:45,881
Kevin Thacker would
still be alive today
1020
01:04:45,882 --> 01:04:48,987
if he would have just
allowed me to do my job.
1021
01:04:48,988 --> 01:04:52,405
Kevin had to allow
you to do your job?
1022
01:04:55,753 --> 01:04:58,032
I don't think it's that
simple, Officer Dodge.
1023
01:05:00,137 --> 01:05:01,690
No further questions,
Your Honor.
1024
01:05:12,598 --> 01:05:15,427
Professor Daily, can
you tell the court
1025
01:05:15,428 --> 01:05:17,603
what a standing broad jump is?
1026
01:05:18,776 --> 01:05:20,363
A standing broad
jump is an event
1027
01:05:20,364 --> 01:05:23,228
in which the competitor
stands at a line,
1028
01:05:23,229 --> 01:05:26,438
and from a standing posture,
they jump as far as they can.
1029
01:05:26,439 --> 01:05:29,165
And what's the world's
record for such a jump?
1030
01:05:29,166 --> 01:05:31,098
The longest jump
is 12 feet, one inch.
1031
01:05:31,099 --> 01:05:35,689
And do you think anyone,
even a trained athlete,
1032
01:05:35,690 --> 01:05:36,829
could make such a jump?
1033
01:05:38,313 --> 01:05:39,313
No.
1034
01:05:40,281 --> 01:05:42,730
Have you done any
tests to verify this?
1035
01:05:42,731 --> 01:05:43,973
Yes, I did.
1036
01:05:43,974 --> 01:05:46,942
Several of my swimmers
jumped from a platform
1037
01:05:46,943 --> 01:05:49,806
similar to the one Kevin
Thacker allegedly leaped from.
1038
01:05:49,807 --> 01:05:52,809
Right, what were the results?
1039
01:05:52,810 --> 01:05:55,743
None of them were able
to complete the 12 feet.
1040
01:05:55,744 --> 01:05:56,744
Not even close.
1041
01:05:57,746 --> 01:05:59,990
Well, so in
light of your test,
1042
01:06:01,543 --> 01:06:05,684
if those athletes' lives depended
on jumping those 12 feet,
1043
01:06:05,685 --> 01:06:07,756
how many would still
be alive today?
1044
01:06:08,619 --> 01:06:09,619
None of them.
1045
01:06:10,725 --> 01:06:12,727
I mean, unless they
had wings, you know?
1046
01:06:16,524 --> 01:06:17,524
Thank you.
1047
01:06:18,905 --> 01:06:21,804
I'm a medical doctor, specializing
in forensic pathology.
1048
01:06:21,805 --> 01:06:23,633
I've taught the subject
for the past 12 years
1049
01:06:23,634 --> 01:06:25,911
at the Wisconsin
State Medical School,
1050
01:06:25,912 --> 01:06:28,328
and was a coroner
for over 20 years.
1051
01:06:28,329 --> 01:06:31,297
No, Kevin Thacker's autopsy
was done by the county coroner.
1052
01:06:32,643 --> 01:06:35,749
Mr. Thacker died from a
contrecoup injury to the brain.
1053
01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:38,994
The two types of injuries
are a coup and contrecoup.
1054
01:06:38,995 --> 01:06:41,513
Since the brain floats in
the fluid of the skull,
1055
01:06:41,514 --> 01:06:44,723
and is subject to
movement, in a coup injury,
1056
01:06:44,724 --> 01:06:47,830
the skull would hit an
object, such as a fall,
1057
01:06:47,831 --> 01:06:50,005
and the brain hits
the side of the skull
1058
01:06:50,006 --> 01:06:51,661
where the impact occurred.
1059
01:06:51,662 --> 01:06:56,321
In Kevin's injury, an object
hit the skull, not the reverse,
1060
01:06:56,322 --> 01:06:58,290
producing a contrecoup injury.
1061
01:06:59,705 --> 01:07:02,362
This forces the brain to
the other side of the skull.
1062
01:07:02,363 --> 01:07:06,745
In his case, a blunt object
hitting the left temporal bone
1063
01:07:06,746 --> 01:07:09,025
causing bleeding in the
right temporal lobe.
1064
01:07:10,405 --> 01:07:15,065
Doctor, did the autopsy
report reveal any other injuries
1065
01:07:15,824 --> 01:07:17,411
to Kevin, at all?
1066
01:07:17,412 --> 01:07:19,724
There was bruises
underneath his armpits,
1067
01:07:19,725 --> 01:07:21,277
but other than that, no.
1068
01:07:21,278 --> 01:07:26,283
The defense claims that Kevin
died from a fall of 24 feet
1069
01:07:27,043 --> 01:07:28,560
onto an asphalt surface.
1070
01:07:28,561 --> 01:07:30,183
Well, bluntly put,
1071
01:07:30,184 --> 01:07:34,083
that would defy both medical
and biological science.
1072
01:07:34,084 --> 01:07:35,533
It's outrageous, really.
1073
01:07:35,534 --> 01:07:38,950
He would have multiple bruising
where the impact occurred,
1074
01:07:38,951 --> 01:07:41,608
other bone fractures,
damages to his organs,
1075
01:07:41,609 --> 01:07:43,990
which Mr. Thacker did not have.
1076
01:07:45,061 --> 01:07:46,372
Thank you, Doctor.
1077
01:07:57,763 --> 01:07:59,384
Dr. Booker, how
long have you been
1078
01:07:59,385 --> 01:08:04,009
a state medical examiner and
what does that job entail?
1079
01:08:04,010 --> 01:08:07,047
Well, I specialize in
comprehensive medical examinations,
1080
01:08:07,048 --> 01:08:09,394
primarily postmortem,
and for five years,
1081
01:08:09,395 --> 01:08:12,363
I've worked as an expert witness
for the police department.
1082
01:08:12,364 --> 01:08:14,917
And in your expert opinion,
1083
01:08:14,918 --> 01:08:18,093
from what height can a
person hit the ground
1084
01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:19,922
without sustaining injury?
1085
01:08:19,923 --> 01:08:23,098
A body can fall from
as high as six stories
1086
01:08:23,099 --> 01:08:25,202
without sustaining injury.
1087
01:08:25,203 --> 01:08:27,999
Six stories, thank you.
1088
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,380
No further questions,
Your Honor.
1089
01:08:30,381 --> 01:08:32,176
Cross
examine, Mr. Pepper.
1090
01:08:34,144 --> 01:08:35,144
Um,
1091
01:08:40,012 --> 01:08:42,532
let me, uh, let me
get this straight.
1092
01:08:44,396 --> 01:08:49,401
Now, you just testified that
a body can fall six stories
1093
01:08:51,196 --> 01:08:54,198
without sustaining
injury, is that correct?
1094
01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:55,647
Yes, yes.
1095
01:08:55,648 --> 01:08:57,407
If there's an equal,
instantaneous transference
1096
01:08:57,408 --> 01:08:59,031
between the body and the ground.
1097
01:09:00,964 --> 01:09:01,964
Right.
1098
01:09:03,208 --> 01:09:06,865
Well, now what is that?
1099
01:09:06,866 --> 01:09:09,144
Can you demonstrate
that for us right now?
1100
01:09:09,145 --> 01:09:12,008
I mean, let's just
say, three feet.
1101
01:09:12,009 --> 01:09:14,253
And you choose which
side you land on.
1102
01:09:16,152 --> 01:09:17,152
No.
1103
01:09:18,119 --> 01:09:19,085
Why?
1104
01:09:19,086 --> 01:09:20,603
Are you afraid of getting hurt?
1105
01:09:23,573 --> 01:09:25,264
Okay, let's say two feet.
1106
01:09:27,265 --> 01:09:28,576
One foot?
1107
01:09:28,577 --> 01:09:30,061
Objection.
1108
01:09:30,062 --> 01:09:31,787
Your Honor, if Mr. Pepper
wants someone to fall,
1109
01:09:31,788 --> 01:09:33,719
let him demonstrate it himself.
1110
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:34,790
Sustained.
1111
01:09:34,791 --> 01:09:35,791
Mr. Pepper.
1112
01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:49,874
Can you tell me what this is?
1113
01:09:49,875 --> 01:09:51,495
That's a physics equation.
1114
01:09:51,496 --> 01:09:54,880
Force equals mass
times acceleration.
1115
01:09:56,295 --> 01:10:01,093
Now, based on this equation,
can you tell me at what force
1116
01:10:02,025 --> 01:10:03,371
Kevin's body hit
the ground with?
1117
01:10:05,511 --> 01:10:08,479
No, no, I can't.
1118
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:09,894
Why not?
1119
01:10:09,895 --> 01:10:12,311
Look, I'm a medical
examiner, okay?
1120
01:10:13,450 --> 01:10:17,557
I'm not good at math.
1121
01:10:17,558 --> 01:10:19,284
No further
questions, Your Honor.
1122
01:10:27,326 --> 01:10:28,671
The court room
1123
01:10:28,672 --> 01:10:32,434
is one of the most
unpredictable places on Earth.
1124
01:10:33,608 --> 01:10:36,540
You never know exactly
what you're up against.
1125
01:10:36,541 --> 01:10:41,201
You just hope you can
inspire that jury.
1126
01:10:41,202 --> 01:10:43,479
I have known Officer
Dodge for six years,
1127
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:45,240
Detective Pebble for 10.
1128
01:10:45,241 --> 01:10:47,828
How would you
describe Officer Dodge?
1129
01:10:47,829 --> 01:10:49,105
Well, he's a big young man,
1130
01:10:49,106 --> 01:10:50,590
but he's certainly not a bully.
1131
01:10:50,591 --> 01:10:53,248
He's just a officer that
comes to work every day,
1132
01:10:53,249 --> 01:10:55,215
and goes about his
business quietly.
1133
01:10:55,216 --> 01:10:56,699
And Detective Pebble?
1134
01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:58,529
Oh, Detective Pebble
is simply the best cop
1135
01:10:58,530 --> 01:10:59,840
I've ever worked with.
1136
01:10:59,841 --> 01:11:03,706
Chief Wilson, have you
ever known Officer Dodge
1137
01:11:03,707 --> 01:11:06,156
to have a problem
with his temper?
1138
01:11:06,157 --> 01:11:08,366
The young man had some
difficulties in Vietnam,
1139
01:11:08,367 --> 01:11:09,850
but since I've known him,
1140
01:11:09,851 --> 01:11:11,990
he's made hundreds of
arrests without incident,
1141
01:11:11,991 --> 01:11:12,923
all of them good.
1142
01:11:12,924 --> 01:11:14,959
Chief, would you please
1143
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,962
tell this court your opinion
1144
01:11:17,963 --> 01:11:21,724
on the theory that Kevin
Thacker's death was a cover-up?
1145
01:11:21,725 --> 01:11:25,451
No, no, not in my department.
1146
01:11:25,452 --> 01:11:26,902
Simply there wasn't enough time.
1147
01:11:26,903 --> 01:11:30,733
I mean, you take this arbitrary
video tape of the ordeal,
1148
01:11:30,734 --> 01:11:32,252
one to seven minutes.
1149
01:11:32,253 --> 01:11:35,428
There's not enough time in
there to concoct a cover-up.
1150
01:11:35,429 --> 01:11:36,912
- Thank you, Chief Wilson.
- Thank you.
1151
01:11:36,913 --> 01:11:39,432
No further questions
at this time, Your Honor.
1152
01:11:39,433 --> 01:11:41,192
Mr. Pepper?
1153
01:11:41,193 --> 01:11:45,335
Well, actually, the
time frame is quite clear.
1154
01:11:46,543 --> 01:11:51,513
Dodge sounded the
alarm at 1:17 a.m.,
1155
01:11:51,514 --> 01:11:54,170
that's from your station logs,
1156
01:11:54,171 --> 01:11:56,621
and Dodge discovered
the body at 1:24 a.m.
1157
01:11:58,072 --> 01:11:59,280
That's seven minutes.
1158
01:12:00,868 --> 01:12:03,490
Shall we allow the court to
have seven minutes of silence
1159
01:12:03,491 --> 01:12:07,012
right now, just to understand
how long that actually is?
1160
01:12:29,448 --> 01:12:31,208
That's not even
30 seconds, Chief.
1161
01:12:34,039 --> 01:12:38,491
Do you really think that
this couldn't have occurred?
1162
01:12:38,492 --> 01:12:40,700
Not on my watch.
1163
01:12:40,701 --> 01:12:42,081
Not in my department.
1164
01:12:48,605 --> 01:12:49,848
Detective Pebble,
1165
01:12:51,159 --> 01:12:53,299
how long have you known
Officer John Dodge?
1166
01:12:54,887 --> 01:12:55,887
10 years.
1167
01:12:57,062 --> 01:12:59,374
And just to be
clear for the court,
1168
01:12:59,375 --> 01:13:02,756
it was you who investigated
the death of Kevin Thacker?
1169
01:13:02,757 --> 01:13:03,757
Yes, I did.
1170
01:13:05,795 --> 01:13:07,071
Did you investigate
1171
01:13:07,072 --> 01:13:08,797
whether John Dodge
committed a crime
1172
01:13:08,798 --> 01:13:11,594
on the night of
October 29th, 1983?
1173
01:13:12,491 --> 01:13:13,491
No.
1174
01:13:15,874 --> 01:13:16,909
Well, why not?
1175
01:13:19,049 --> 01:13:21,707
No crime was committed,
except by Kevin Thacker.
1176
01:13:23,121 --> 01:13:27,298
You never, not
even for a moment,
1177
01:13:27,299 --> 01:13:29,784
considered the culpability
of Officer Dodge?
1178
01:13:32,235 --> 01:13:34,099
There's no evidence
to support that.
1179
01:13:35,237 --> 01:13:36,791
Where were you
during the booking?
1180
01:13:38,206 --> 01:13:41,036
Somebody was getting
beat up across the street,
1181
01:13:41,037 --> 01:13:42,520
I was on a radio call for that.
1182
01:13:42,521 --> 01:13:45,212
But I returned shortly after
the ambulance was called.
1183
01:13:45,213 --> 01:13:48,250
And, where was Officer Dodge?
1184
01:13:48,251 --> 01:13:49,770
He was with the victim.
1185
01:13:50,909 --> 01:13:53,428
Who notified Kevin's parents?
1186
01:13:53,429 --> 01:13:55,395
The Des Moines PD.
1187
01:13:55,396 --> 01:13:58,122
Why didn't you do
the notification?
1188
01:13:58,123 --> 01:13:59,330
Because I was busy
1189
01:13:59,331 --> 01:14:00,883
collecting evidence
and statements
1190
01:14:00,884 --> 01:14:04,093
with respect to Mr.
Thacker's unfortunate fall.
1191
01:14:04,094 --> 01:14:05,061
Really?
1192
01:14:05,062 --> 01:14:06,580
Well, what did that consist of?
1193
01:14:07,995 --> 01:14:10,790
Talking to the parties
involved, interviewing them.
1194
01:14:10,791 --> 01:14:13,033
That's when I found out
about Kevin's mental state
1195
01:14:13,034 --> 01:14:14,139
during the arrest.
1196
01:14:15,347 --> 01:14:18,591
Turns out the boy
was brokenhearted.
1197
01:14:18,592 --> 01:14:21,801
How could you possibly be
aware of Kevin's mental state?
1198
01:14:21,802 --> 01:14:23,319
Because I
interviewed his boyfriend.
1199
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,424
His boyfriend said he had
showed up at Marshalltown...
1200
01:14:25,425 --> 01:14:28,635
Detective, Kevin's
sexual orientation
1201
01:14:28,636 --> 01:14:32,812
is not on trial here, your
colleague John Dodge is.
1202
01:14:32,813 --> 01:14:34,433
Look, I'm not gonna allow you
1203
01:14:34,434 --> 01:14:35,986
to dance around this any longer.
1204
01:14:35,987 --> 01:14:38,299
I want you to tell the
court, beat by beat,
1205
01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:40,717
moment by moment, what happened?
1206
01:14:42,236 --> 01:14:44,618
Prisoner is loose
in the building.
1207
01:15:13,888 --> 01:15:18,271
So he did all this
while intoxicated,
1208
01:15:18,272 --> 01:15:20,135
leaping like a
world-class athlete,
1209
01:15:20,136 --> 01:15:21,619
dropping the
cigarette and lighter,
1210
01:15:21,620 --> 01:15:26,348
and falling 24 feet, only
sustaining one injury?
1211
01:15:26,349 --> 01:15:28,039
Yes, it appears that way, yes.
1212
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,558
After Kevin was
taken to the hospital,
1213
01:15:30,559 --> 01:15:33,113
why did have his clothes
ordered back to the station?
1214
01:15:33,114 --> 01:15:34,942
To be used as evidence,
I already told you that.
1215
01:15:34,943 --> 01:15:38,602
And to allow you to fabricate
your version of the events.
1216
01:15:38,603 --> 01:15:41,881
You had time to plant the
cigarette and create the evidence
1217
01:15:41,882 --> 01:15:44,539
because it didn't
matter, Detective.
1218
01:15:44,540 --> 01:15:48,302
Kevin Thacker was
never on that roof.
1219
01:15:53,065 --> 01:15:54,619
No further questions,
Your Honor.
1220
01:16:03,973 --> 01:16:05,387
Thank you for being
here, Mrs. Thacker.
1221
01:16:05,388 --> 01:16:08,528
I don't think anyone in
this room would argue
1222
01:16:08,529 --> 01:16:11,255
that this is a very tough
thing for you to do.
1223
01:16:12,188 --> 01:16:15,293
It hasn't been easy.
1224
01:16:15,294 --> 01:16:20,299
Will you please tell the
court a little about Kevin?
1225
01:16:21,473 --> 01:16:22,817
What he was like.
1226
01:16:22,818 --> 01:16:24,337
Sure.
1227
01:16:24,338 --> 01:16:29,273
Kevin was a good son, very
good son, funny, smart.
1228
01:16:31,068 --> 01:16:33,485
He was going to
community college.
1229
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:35,936
Um...
Did,
1230
01:16:37,972 --> 01:16:39,698
Did Kevin have a
drinking problem?
1231
01:16:41,804 --> 01:16:45,495
I think he was just
young, acting his age.
1232
01:16:45,496 --> 01:16:49,605
Maybe a little lost at times.
1233
01:16:51,814 --> 01:16:55,022
You know, he may have had
some issues with alcohol,
1234
01:16:55,023 --> 01:16:58,888
but I think more he
just never knew exactly
1235
01:16:58,889 --> 01:17:01,306
where to direct his attention.
1236
01:17:02,618 --> 01:17:07,623
And what will you
miss most about Kevin?
1237
01:17:08,796 --> 01:17:10,280
Objection,
Your Honor, relevance.
1238
01:17:11,454 --> 01:17:14,076
Trying to make the
deceased a person,
1239
01:17:14,077 --> 01:17:16,078
not just a name, Your Honor.
1240
01:17:16,079 --> 01:17:17,286
Overruled.
1241
01:17:17,287 --> 01:17:18,392
You can answer, ma'am.
1242
01:17:24,191 --> 01:17:29,091
I'll miss sitting at the
table with him after dinner,
1243
01:17:29,092 --> 01:17:31,129
just the two of us, talking.
1244
01:17:32,544 --> 01:17:34,649
I used to give him the business
about putting on his shirt,
1245
01:17:34,650 --> 01:17:37,169
and he'd never listen to me.
1246
01:17:38,619 --> 01:17:41,829
He'd just say, "We're
done eatin', Ma, relax."
1247
01:17:44,660 --> 01:17:47,559
Believe it or not, I'll
miss worrying about him.
1248
01:17:48,767 --> 01:17:50,872
It's just, after you give birth,
1249
01:17:50,873 --> 01:17:52,701
it becomes ingrained in you.
1250
01:17:52,702 --> 01:17:56,671
It's just like a part of
you, as long as you live,
1251
01:17:56,672 --> 01:17:58,674
that worry is just always there.
1252
01:17:59,571 --> 01:18:00,571
I'll miss that.
1253
01:18:02,263 --> 01:18:03,817
And, what else will you miss?
1254
01:18:07,648 --> 01:18:08,684
Everything.
1255
01:18:10,099 --> 01:18:12,584
Everything that
would've come after.
1256
01:18:15,035 --> 01:18:16,035
Sorry.
1257
01:18:24,492 --> 01:18:25,492
Sorry.
1258
01:18:26,805 --> 01:18:27,875
Thank you, Beverly.
1259
01:18:40,059 --> 01:18:41,059
Hey, guys.
1260
01:18:42,269 --> 01:18:44,098
Hey, Mike, how are you?
1261
01:18:45,237 --> 01:18:46,754
Stu?
1262
01:18:46,755 --> 01:18:48,343
Ah, all right, all right.
1263
01:18:48,344 --> 01:18:49,584
I wanna tell you
1264
01:18:49,585 --> 01:18:52,866
how much I appreciate
your work on this case.
1265
01:18:54,177 --> 01:18:58,768
And I wish Kevin
could have met you.
1266
01:19:01,529 --> 01:19:03,014
Thank you.
Thanks.
1267
01:19:19,202 --> 01:19:20,825
You have a difficult task today,
1268
01:19:23,103 --> 01:19:26,589
and I'd like to start
off by thanking you
1269
01:19:27,934 --> 01:19:32,802
for your time and attention
in this crucial case.
1270
01:19:35,287 --> 01:19:37,393
Your task today is difficult
1271
01:19:38,532 --> 01:19:41,258
because I'm asking
you to believe
1272
01:19:41,259 --> 01:19:44,089
that the people you have
been taught to trust
1273
01:19:45,090 --> 01:19:47,057
are the same people
1274
01:19:47,058 --> 01:19:49,888
responsible for the
death of Kevin Thacker.
1275
01:19:51,717 --> 01:19:54,616
Now, if you asked me a year ago,
1276
01:19:54,617 --> 01:19:57,344
if I believed something like
this could be be possible,
1277
01:19:58,794 --> 01:20:00,898
I'd have had a hard
time believing it too.
1278
01:20:02,314 --> 01:20:04,420
But I'm learning,
1279
01:20:06,111 --> 01:20:08,561
I'm learning that, inherently,
1280
01:20:08,562 --> 01:20:12,290
we were put on this Earth
to protect one another.
1281
01:20:16,121 --> 01:20:21,126
There's an old saying, absolute
power corrupts absolutely.
1282
01:20:22,334 --> 01:20:24,508
We've all heard that statement.
1283
01:20:24,509 --> 01:20:26,890
And it trickles all the
way down the power chain,
1284
01:20:26,891 --> 01:20:29,927
from a president
to a meter maid,
1285
01:20:29,928 --> 01:20:32,826
to make those who think
they're above the law
1286
01:20:32,827 --> 01:20:37,833
be fearful of its consequences,
checks and balances.
1287
01:20:41,043 --> 01:20:43,114
That sounds like a
pretty good idea to me.
1288
01:20:44,184 --> 01:20:45,770
What do you think?
1289
01:20:45,771 --> 01:20:49,015
I mean, there's history here,
going back to the Middle Ages,
1290
01:20:49,016 --> 01:20:53,123
the Spanish Inquisition,
police states,
1291
01:20:53,124 --> 01:20:55,815
and the creation of laws.
1292
01:20:55,816 --> 01:20:57,540
New laws had to be passed
1293
01:20:57,541 --> 01:21:00,200
to keep the abuse
of power in check.
1294
01:21:01,648 --> 01:21:05,618
The Fourth Amendment protects
us from search and seizure,
1295
01:21:05,619 --> 01:21:08,242
and the Fourteenth Amendment
gives us our rights.
1296
01:21:10,106 --> 01:21:11,659
I never knew Kevin Thacker.
1297
01:21:13,903 --> 01:21:16,318
But I've gotten to know
his parents pretty well.
1298
01:21:17,630 --> 01:21:18,942
And I've spoken personally
1299
01:21:18,943 --> 01:21:22,186
to everybody involved
in this case.
1300
01:21:22,187 --> 01:21:23,981
And, I learned that
1301
01:21:23,982 --> 01:21:27,434
Kevin was really no
different than any of us.
1302
01:21:28,884 --> 01:21:32,439
He was a young man trying
to find his way in life.
1303
01:21:33,577 --> 01:21:36,545
And Kevin, like us all,
1304
01:21:36,546 --> 01:21:39,548
had to face the consequences
of his decisions.
1305
01:21:39,549 --> 01:21:42,242
And that is not an
easy thing to do.
1306
01:21:44,209 --> 01:21:47,245
The consequences to
Kevin's decisions
1307
01:21:47,246 --> 01:21:51,941
on the night of October
29th cost him his life.
1308
01:21:53,425 --> 01:21:56,704
But if you look at the bigger
picture, it didn't have to.
1309
01:21:59,121 --> 01:22:01,087
It didn't have to.
1310
01:22:01,088 --> 01:22:04,194
Kevin died while
under the supervision
1311
01:22:04,195 --> 01:22:06,680
of the Marshalltown
Police Department.
1312
01:22:14,688 --> 01:22:17,518
There was not a soul in sight,
except for Officer Dodge.
1313
01:22:19,382 --> 01:22:22,488
Now, you've heard the details
of this case several times.
1314
01:22:22,489 --> 01:22:26,078
The standing broad
jump, the intoxication,
1315
01:22:26,079 --> 01:22:30,014
the press release prior to
notifying his own parents,
1316
01:22:31,429 --> 01:22:33,914
and the nature of
the single injury
1317
01:22:35,053 --> 01:22:38,436
that is not consistent
with a fall of 24 feet.
1318
01:22:40,714 --> 01:22:44,062
You are in the
throes of a cover-up.
1319
01:22:47,514 --> 01:22:49,101
The corruption of power
1320
01:22:49,102 --> 01:22:52,174
by those who believe
that they are above law.
1321
01:22:54,314 --> 01:22:55,418
But let me assure you,
1322
01:22:57,144 --> 01:22:59,974
no police department wants
bad blood on their hands,
1323
01:22:59,975 --> 01:23:04,876
so you have to reconcile
yourselves to one simple fact
1324
01:23:06,291 --> 01:23:08,535
regarding the police and
the world that we live in.
1325
01:23:11,503 --> 01:23:12,815
These things do happen.
1326
01:23:15,335 --> 01:23:17,820
Lady Justice is blindfolded,
1327
01:23:19,235 --> 01:23:24,170
but that is to remind us
that it is up to all of us
1328
01:23:24,171 --> 01:23:27,864
to keep our eyes wide open.
1329
01:23:30,764 --> 01:23:31,764
Thank you so much.
1330
01:24:05,074 --> 01:24:06,074
Stu.
1331
01:24:14,670 --> 01:24:16,188
Have you reached a verdict?
1332
01:24:16,189 --> 01:24:17,673
Yes, we have, Your Honor.
1333
01:24:24,576 --> 01:24:28,062
We, the jury, find
Officer John Dodge
1334
01:24:28,063 --> 01:24:31,548
liable for the wrongful
death of Kevin Thacker,
1335
01:24:31,549 --> 01:24:35,691
and award $980,000
to his estate.
1336
01:24:37,279 --> 01:24:42,284
Oh, my god.
1337
01:25:41,514 --> 01:25:42,585
Guess what?
1338
01:25:46,762 --> 01:25:48,936
Did somebody pass the bar?
1339
01:25:51,698 --> 01:25:53,665
Congratulations.
Thank you.
1340
01:25:55,046 --> 01:25:56,910
Might have a little
competition on your hands.
1341
01:25:59,326 --> 01:26:00,879
Monica, I, uh,
1342
01:26:02,985 --> 01:26:06,954
I just have to thank
you, I couldn't,
1343
01:26:08,335 --> 01:26:10,130
I couldn't have done
this without you.
1344
01:26:11,235 --> 01:26:12,960
Oh, it's nothing.
1345
01:26:14,341 --> 01:26:15,341
Counselor.
1346
01:26:18,966 --> 01:26:21,245
Counselor.
1347
01:26:24,317 --> 01:26:27,836
The unexamined
life is not worth living.
1348
01:26:27,837 --> 01:26:30,632
My victory took nearly
a year of my life,
1349
01:26:30,633 --> 01:26:32,945
of my family's life.
1350
01:26:32,946 --> 01:26:35,948
You begin to understand
your own personal limits.
1351
01:26:35,949 --> 01:26:38,503
What you are willing to
trade for that victory.
1352
01:26:39,987 --> 01:26:42,576
For the first time, I felt
that I was good at my job.
1353
01:26:43,818 --> 01:26:45,751
You can still find my
name in the Yellow Pages
1354
01:26:45,752 --> 01:26:47,236
along with everybody else.
1355
01:26:48,133 --> 01:26:49,618
A personal injury lawyer.
1356
01:26:50,584 --> 01:26:52,241
Sometimes I just have to smile.
1357
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,424
There he is, the
man of the hour.
1358
01:27:03,425 --> 01:27:04,632
Hey, I wish you would've called.
1359
01:27:04,633 --> 01:27:06,875
I'm just heading out
for an off-site meeting.
1360
01:27:06,876 --> 01:27:09,533
I just wanted to grab
a quick word with you.
1361
01:27:09,534 --> 01:27:11,466
Hey, congratulations
on that victory.
1362
01:27:11,467 --> 01:27:15,056
Well, to be honest, sir,
the real victory would be
1363
01:27:15,057 --> 01:27:17,403
to have the offenders
punished in some way
1364
01:27:17,404 --> 01:27:19,130
other than the
city's pocket book.
1365
01:27:20,269 --> 01:27:22,753
I wanted to offer my
services free of charge
1366
01:27:22,754 --> 01:27:25,722
to help expedite that
in any way possible.
1367
01:27:25,723 --> 01:27:27,689
Yeah, I think we
have that covered.
1368
01:27:27,690 --> 01:27:30,036
Have you assigned an agent
to investigate the case yet?
1369
01:27:30,037 --> 01:27:31,383
Yes, I have.
1370
01:27:31,384 --> 01:27:32,867
I thought about your
very kind advice,
1371
01:27:32,868 --> 01:27:35,870
but I decided to
put somebody on it
1372
01:27:35,871 --> 01:27:37,906
I'm a little more
comfortable with.
1373
01:27:37,907 --> 01:27:41,254
Appearances and what not,
I'm sure you understand.
1374
01:27:41,255 --> 01:27:43,222
Who did you
assign to the case?
1375
01:27:43,223 --> 01:27:44,843
Ben Higgins.
1376
01:27:44,844 --> 01:27:47,814
Doesn't he do undercover
work for Marshalltown cops?
1377
01:27:50,092 --> 01:27:51,714
Let me tell you
something, okay?
1378
01:27:52,888 --> 01:27:55,546
You did a good job,
nobody's denying that.
1379
01:27:57,030 --> 01:28:00,309
But you have to know when to
walk away, when to move on.
1380
01:28:01,690 --> 01:28:03,311
And very frankly,
1381
01:28:03,312 --> 01:28:07,454
fucking with my department
doesn't help that along.
1382
01:28:35,171 --> 01:28:36,965
Kevin Thacker and the
Marshalltown Police,
1383
01:28:36,966 --> 01:28:40,073
for 10 counts against
Mr. John Dodge.
1384
01:28:42,317 --> 01:28:43,317
Dismissed.
1385
01:28:46,424 --> 01:28:47,943
They're gonna be late.
1386
01:28:51,947 --> 01:28:53,084
Hello?
1387
01:28:53,085 --> 01:28:55,018
Beverly, it's Stu.
1388
01:28:55,019 --> 01:28:56,985
Hey, Thomas there?
1389
01:28:56,986 --> 01:28:58,746
Yes, hi, Stu, hold on.
1390
01:29:01,577 --> 01:29:02,475
Hi, Stu.
1391
01:29:02,476 --> 01:29:03,992
Hey.
1392
01:29:03,993 --> 01:29:06,858
Look, I'm really sorry to
bother you on Christmas Eve.
1393
01:29:08,343 --> 01:29:09,585
We got some bad news.
1394
01:29:11,484 --> 01:29:12,967
Hallow threw it out.
1395
01:29:12,968 --> 01:29:13,968
Threw what out?
1396
01:29:17,041 --> 01:29:21,113
In civil cases, the
law gives the judge
1397
01:29:21,114 --> 01:29:23,323
the power to overturn
the jury verdict.
1398
01:29:24,289 --> 01:29:25,360
And that's bullshit.
1399
01:29:26,913 --> 01:29:28,084
What?
1400
01:29:28,085 --> 01:29:29,605
The judge threw the case out.
1401
01:29:36,267 --> 01:29:37,785
Well, what are we gonna do?
1402
01:29:37,786 --> 01:29:40,235
We appeal it to the State
Supreme Court for a reversal
1403
01:29:40,236 --> 01:29:43,032
and get the original
verdict reinstated.
1404
01:29:44,379 --> 01:29:45,380
I can't let it go.
1405
01:29:46,311 --> 01:29:47,865
I'm in this for the long haul.
1406
01:29:48,969 --> 01:29:50,315
I'm right there with you.
1407
01:29:51,455 --> 01:29:53,973
Listen, you have
a good holiday,
1408
01:29:53,974 --> 01:29:57,356
and I'll talk to you
after the new year.
1409
01:29:57,357 --> 01:29:58,357
God bless you.
1410
01:29:59,428 --> 01:30:00,291
Thank you.
1411
01:30:00,291 --> 01:30:01,291
Thank you, Thomas.
1412
01:30:11,440 --> 01:30:15,857
♫ I went walking down the road
1413
01:30:15,858 --> 01:30:20,241
♫ The road for the blind
1414
01:30:20,242 --> 01:30:25,246
♫ For a long, long time,
I walked it alone ♫
1415
01:30:29,353 --> 01:30:34,254
♫ Down that lonely road
1416
01:30:34,255 --> 01:30:37,741
♫ No place to go
1417
01:30:37,742 --> 01:30:40,468
♫ I was the sea
1418
01:30:40,469 --> 01:30:43,678
♫ Cold as I could be
1419
01:30:43,679 --> 01:30:47,441
♫ I was anything but free
1420
01:30:47,442 --> 01:30:50,582
♫ As far as I could see
1421
01:30:50,583 --> 01:30:55,276
♫ I was anything but me
1422
01:30:55,277 --> 01:30:57,658
♫ And me alone
1423
01:30:57,659 --> 01:31:01,799
♫ I was all on my own
1424
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:06,806
♫ Without myself
1425
01:31:07,876 --> 01:31:11,982
♫ I found myself
without a home ♫
1426
01:31:11,983 --> 01:31:16,090
♫ As hard as a stone
1427
01:31:16,091 --> 01:31:19,024
♫ But truth be told
1428
01:31:19,025 --> 01:31:24,030
♫ I was the storm
1429
01:31:25,721 --> 01:31:30,035
♫ The storm of storms
1430
01:31:30,036 --> 01:31:33,659
♫ So now you know
1431
01:31:33,660 --> 01:31:36,490
♫ I was the sea
1432
01:31:36,491 --> 01:31:39,458
♫ Cold as I could be
1433
01:31:39,459 --> 01:31:43,254
♫ I was anything but free
1434
01:31:43,255 --> 01:31:46,430
♫ As far as I could see
1435
01:31:46,431 --> 01:31:50,918
♫ I was anything but me
1436
01:31:50,919 --> 01:31:53,507
♫ And me alone
1437
01:31:53,508 --> 01:31:57,303
♫ I was all on my own
1438
01:31:57,304 --> 01:32:02,206
♫ Without myself
1439
01:32:05,623 --> 01:32:08,625
♫ Think about the way
1440
01:32:08,626 --> 01:32:13,009
♫ You have to fight
1441
01:32:13,010 --> 01:32:18,014
♫ When you're always right
1442
01:32:19,361 --> 01:32:22,052
♫ Think about the rose
1443
01:32:22,053 --> 01:32:25,539
♫ With too many thorns
1444
01:32:25,540 --> 01:32:30,545
♫ No one will stand
by your side ♫
1445
01:32:35,135 --> 01:32:39,553
♫ No one stands by your side
1446
01:32:39,554 --> 01:32:43,627
♫ No one will stand
by your side ♫
1447
01:32:50,737 --> 01:32:55,742
♫ I walked alone
1448
01:32:57,641 --> 01:33:01,885
♫ I found myself
without a home ♫
1449
01:33:01,886 --> 01:33:06,027
♫ As hard as a stone
1450
01:33:06,028 --> 01:33:08,789
♫ But truth be told
1451
01:33:08,790 --> 01:33:13,795
♫ I was the storm
1452
01:33:15,624 --> 01:33:20,110
♫ The storm of storms
1453
01:33:20,111 --> 01:33:25,116
♫ So now you know
1454
01:33:25,910 --> 01:33:30,915
♫ Without my soul
1455
01:33:32,952 --> 01:33:37,540
♫ All on my own
1456
01:33:37,541 --> 01:33:40,406
♫ I was the sea
1457
01:33:40,407 --> 01:33:43,513
♫ Cold as I could be
1458
01:33:43,514 --> 01:33:47,310
♫ I was anything but free
1459
01:33:47,311 --> 01:33:50,485
♫ As far as I could see
1460
01:33:50,486 --> 01:33:54,766
♫ I was anything but me
1461
01:33:54,767 --> 01:33:57,354
♫ And me alone
1462
01:33:57,355 --> 01:34:01,600
♫ I was all on my own
1463
01:34:01,601 --> 01:34:06,606
♫ Without my soul
1464
01:34:11,541 --> 01:34:16,270
♫ I went walking down the road
1465
01:34:16,271 --> 01:34:20,757
♫ The road for the blind
1466
01:34:20,758 --> 01:34:24,106
♫ For a long, long time
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