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'Mr. President,
your testimony is subject'
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'to the penalty of perjury,
do you understand that, sir?'
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I do.
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[instrumental music]
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[David Brock]
There was shock in
the conservative movement
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that twelve years of dominance
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had been upended by
the Clintons.
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Together we can make
America great again.
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[Joe Lockhart]
Democrats lose elections
and they get sad.
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Republicans lose elections
and they get mad.
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And when they're mad,
there's payback.
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[David Brock]
People that I was associated
with wanted the Clintons
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to be brought down
on personal scandal.
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[Paula Jones]
In May of '91, Bill Clinton
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harassed me on the job.
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[male #2]
'Did you ever ask Paula Jones
to kiss your penis?'
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No, I did not.
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[male #3]
'The president is being dogged'
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'by a story that won't go away.'
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[Newt Gingrich]
'Whitewater development
is not going to go away'
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there are too many questions,
and there are too many
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implications of
breaking the law.
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That's a lie.
That's a Republican lie.
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[Joe Lockhart]
House republicans
were salivating.
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[Joe Conason]
This was the next Watergate.
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[male #4]
He's new chief of
the Whitewater investigation
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Independent Counsel
Kenneth Starr.
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My view was very simple.
This is all about rule of law.
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[Jane Sherburne] They wanted to execute a search warrant on the White House.
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Starr was out to destroy
the president.
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The great story here is this
vast right wing conspiracy.
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[Peter Baker]
He knows they're
out there to get them.
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He knows that
he's being hunted.
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And yet he could be
so reckless.
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[Joe Conason]
Bill Clinton handed
the sword to his enemies.
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As I passed George
Stephanopoulos' office
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I kind of looked into the open
doorway, and Bill happened to be
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standing there
and he motioned me in.
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I don't think my heart
had ever beat as fast.
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Unbeknownst to me, I was on the
precipice of the rabbit hole.
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[Bruce Udolf]
What does this information
about an affair
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with the President of
the United States
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have to do with Whitewater?
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Nothing.
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[Bob Bittman]
I was going to the White House
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in the dark of night
to take a blood sample
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from the sitting president
of the United States
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to compare with a semen stain
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on the dress of a 22 year old.
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This was the people's business
in the people's house.
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[indistinct chattering]
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[Todd Purdum]
We are still, 20 years later
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living the legacy and paying
the price for that story.
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[Peter Baker]
What it comes down to is,
how does our democracy work?
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[male #4]
'The House of Representatives
is exhibiting to the Senate'
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'of the United States
articles of impeachment'
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'against
William Jefferson Clinton.'
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[Johnny Carson]
'My, uh,
my first guest tonight..'
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'Bill Clinton
is a four time governor.'
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[crowd cheering]
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Here's a man who needs
no introduction
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the honorable Bill Clinton
of Arkansas.
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[crowd cheering]
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[instrumental music]
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You're governor now of
Arkansas until, uh, 1991?
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- That's right.
- Yeah.
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Where are you looking beyond
that, politically? Or are you?
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Depends on how I do
on this show tonight.
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[laughing]
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[female #1]
This year, fellow governors
voted him
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"The Most Effective Governor"
in the nation.
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Name a problem, Clinton
probably has a solution.
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[crowd applauding]
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We are not here to save
the Democratic Party
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we are here to save
the United States of America.
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[Lucianne Goldberg]
I liked him.
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He was good looking,
he was funny.
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He actually had nerve enough to drag that saxophone
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onto late night talk shows.
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I thought, "Gee,
he's kind of cool."
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I like the looks of this guy.
He looks like today.
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♪ I'm a southern man ♪
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♪ I'm a southern man
I'm a southern man.. ♪
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[Joe Conason]
Clinton was a progressive
southern Governor
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who saw distress
in the country
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that had built up
over the years
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of the Reagan and Bush
presidencies.
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The Republican message was,
"let's hold on to all
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of the good things that are
slipping away from our past."
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I am tremendously concerned
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about the erosion
of the family unit.
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Clinton was
"the future's the answer."
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It's all about the future.
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♪ Ain't nothin' like being
with my lady ♪♪
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Make no mistake,
this election is about change.
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Change in our party,
change in our leadership
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change in our nation.
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And that is why today
I proudly announce
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my candidacy for President of
the United States of America.
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[crowd cheering]
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[Barney Frank]
One of the best
politicians ever.
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A mega charmer
with large audiences
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and excellent one-on-one.
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[Michael Isikoff]
The Democrats had lost
three elections in a row
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and here was this young,
fresh face
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from a rural, conservative
state, who had appeal
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to rural, conservative voters,
yet was very much
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a part of the mainstream
of Democratic thinking.
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[Patricia Ireland]
Bill Clinton was somebody
we could work with
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on women's equality,
on birth control funding
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on social security.
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Clinton was our answer
to Reagan.
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[David Brock]
The Clintons represented
a new generation
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and there were cultural issues
surrounding them
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that a lot of Republicans
and conservatives
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were uncomfortable with.
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Bill Clinton
hadn't served in Vietnam
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he had at least
a brush with marijuana use.
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You add Hillary into the mix,
who was a feminist
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all of that drove
the conservatives crazy.
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I was part of the movement
of the opposition to Clinton.
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The conservatives actively
sought to engage in certain
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tactics that hadn't
been fair game before.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Dick Morris]
Clinton was cruising along
as the new Democrat
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when it came out that
he'd had a affair
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with a woman named
Gennifer Flowers.
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Yes, I was Bill Clinton's
lover for 12 years
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and for the past two years
I have lied to the press
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about our relationship
to protect him.
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Flowers actually had tapes
of him talking to her
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not overtly sexual
but implying it.
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[male #5]
'Did anyone ever approach you
from the Republican Party'
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'perhaps another
Democratic candidate'
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'to urge you to tell
this story publically?'
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- Yes, they did.
- 'Who?'
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'Was it the Democratic Party,
or was it'
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'the Republican Party,
Miss Flowers?'
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It was the Republican Party.
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[Dick Morris]
Gennifer Flowers
really threatened
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Clinton's candidacy
with oblivion.
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[Joe Conason]
The Republicans
were putting together
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a dossier on Clinton,
mostly stuff about womanizing.
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Republicans were very much of
the sort of the family values
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moral character sort of party
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and there was a sense that
his character was flawed.
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He is fatally flawed,
and extremely vulnerable--
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[male #6]
'Tell me why he's
fatally flawed.'
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It's character, people don't
know if they can believe
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anything this guy says,
I think the character
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of the person who would be
President of the United States--
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[male #7]
'Do you think
that the issue of
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marital fidelity
is a legitimate issue?
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I think that it's
something that voters
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are going to want
to know about, yes.
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[Joe Conason]
The thing about Clinton was
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he would not be stopped.
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I mean, other politicians would,
might give up, or, you know
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other people would give up
on them.
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He would not permit that.
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I did not work on
his staff in 1992
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but he called me a lot
and we talked a lot by phone.
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I told him, they will elect you if they feel you had an affair
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if you handle it properly.
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This is clearly a story
that the Clintons
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want to meet head-on,
together.
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[Joe Conason]
In '92, you had four networks.
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Three broadcast networks
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ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN.
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It was a smaller media universe,
no Internet to speak of.
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So, when Clinton was confronted
with Gennifer Flowers..
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...he could go to one place
and kind of deal with it.
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[clock ticking]
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She's alleging
a 12 year affair with you.
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Right before that interview,
he called me
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and he said,
"What should I say?"
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And I said, "I think you should
say that I've sometimes caused
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pain in my marriage, and I feel
very badly about that."
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I have acknowledged
wrongdoing.
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I have acknowledged
causing pain in my marriage.
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And the problem with the answer
is, it's not a denial.
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No matter what I say
to pretend that the press
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will then let this die,
it, we're kidding ourselves.
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I mean, I think most Americans
who are watching this tonight
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they'll know what we're saying.
They'll get it.
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There isn't a person watching
this who would feel comfortable
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sitting on this couch,
detailing everything
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that ever went on in their life,
or their marriage.
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I'm not sitting here
as some little woman
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standing by my man
like Tammy Wynette.
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I'm sitting here because
I love him, and I respect him
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and I honor what he's
been through and what we've
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been through together, and,
you know, if that's not enough
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for people then, heck,
don't vote for him!
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[male #9]
It is this sense of sureness
and of combativeness
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that Hillary Clinton
is employing this week
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in support of her husband.
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She is on the attack.
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This woman has admitted
that the Republicans
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offered her money, uh
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to change her story
and implicate my husband
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after having denied it
repeatedly.
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Well, I think Hillary Clinton
is his best defense
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because she does not come across
as the aggrieved wife.
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[male #10]
Have you ever thought
about quitting?
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The licks that I've taken
are nothin' compared
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to the licks
most Americans take.
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I mean, if you can't
take a few licks
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you've got no business
being president.
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It's a tough job,
you've got to be a tough guy.
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[James Carville]
He was tough.
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This guy had like, stamina
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he could take a,
he could take a lick.
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I mean,
what was the old Timex
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you know, "It could take a
licking and keep on ticking."
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Is anything about our marriage
as important to the people
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of New Hampshire as to whether
or not they will have a chance
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to keep their own families
together, and to deal with
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the problems that are
affecting this country.
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[Joe Klein]
They were both tough as nails.
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At the worst possible moments,
he just worked harder.
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The night before
the New Hampshire primary
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I went out and I found him
and he was shaking every hand
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in every restaurant in
Manchester, New Hampshire
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until the restaurants closed, and then he went to the bowling
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alleys, and he shook every hand
in every bowling alley
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until there was just us,
and he looked at me and he said
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"Do you wanna,
do you wanna bowl a game?"
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[female #1]
A two-way race
for the White House is on.
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Governor Clinton,
it appealed to the middle class
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that he was centrist
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and he kept hammering away
on the economy.
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We were promised jobs
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but instead we got pink slips
and insecurity.
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President Bush, at times,
seemed disinterested.
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Did you miss the recession, did
it come late, what happened--
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Well, that's a charge that-that
maybe I was being too technical
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but I'm telling you,
what, what is a recession?
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I've had friends that have been
laid off from jobs
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I know people who cannot
afford to pay
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the mortgage on their homes.
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How has it affected you?
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'And if you have no
experience in it'
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'how can you help us?'
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I don't think it-I don't
think it's fair to say
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"You haven't
had cancer, therefore
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you don't know
what it's like."
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I don't think it's fair to say,
you know, whatever it is
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that if you haven't
been hit by it personally.
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I'll tell you
how it's affected me.
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In my state,
when people lose their jobs
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there's a good chance
I'll know them by their names.
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When a factory closes,
I know the people who ran it.
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When the businesses go bankrupt,
I know them.
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And I've been out here
for 13 months
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with people like you
all over America.
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[male #8]
'Bill Clinton,
11 points ahead in the polls.'
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Clinton scared
a lot of Republicans.
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What was it with this guy?
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How could he survive
a mistress?
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Everybody knew that was
a political death sentence.
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The dirty little secret
of Clinton
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he was the last Democrat
to really get
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white working class support
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and he got it because
they identified with him.
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Here was a guy who was having
an affair with lounge singers
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eating McDonald's
french fries by the bucket
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uh, and seemed to care about
people like them.
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I'd like to ask our
future president a question.
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[crowd cheering]
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[male #9]
'Michigan, traditional
Midwestern battleground'
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'goes to Clinton.'
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'Pennsylvania
the Keystone state..'
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Pennsylvania!
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[crowd cheering]
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[male #10]
'The man from Hope, Arkansas'
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'the new president of
the United States'
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'Bill Clinton,
the projected winner tonight.'
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[crowd cheering]
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I ask you to join with us
in creating a reunited states
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a united country
with a new sense of patriotism
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to face the new challenges
of this new time.
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[female #2]
'The President and Mrs. Clinton
can now call'
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'the White House home.'
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[Jeff Gerth]
When the Clintons
got to Washington
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they had hoped to leave
all the campaign stuff behind
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and come to Washington
with a fresh start.
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[Tom Daschle]
There was high expectation
and great enthusiasm
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here was a young couple
with a lot of charisma
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a lot of excitement around
the things they wanted to do.
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Bill Clinton made some huge,
important appointments.
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To see a Janet Reno
at the highest level of
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law enforcement, to see Ruth
Bader Ginsburg on the court.
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He advanced
the women's agenda.
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It was a major breakthrough.
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Today I am announcing
the formation
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of the president's task force
on national health reform.
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'I am grateful that Hillary has
agreed to share this task force'
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and not only because it means
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she'll be sharing some of
the heat I expect to generate.
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No. No.
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I never have paid her for
her public service efforts
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I don't want to start now!
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Hillary Clinton,
like her husband
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was representing something
new in politics..
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A feminist First Lady
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who had her own career
as an attorney.
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But don't you think
we'll need an hour?
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[Joe Conason]
And wanted to play a role
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on the national stage.
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[Katie Couric]
Hillary's has a staff
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that's gotten high marks
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for its ability, organization
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and protectiveness.
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I can't help but notice that,
uh, this is an all chick staff.
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[chuckles]
All women on this staff.
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She put herself in positions
that no other First Lady
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had ever been in.
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I mean, she at points
was acting
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almost as the deputy president.
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Why did you decide
to have an office
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in the West Wing
of the White House
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when all the First Ladies
before you
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have worked out
of the East Wing?
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It made sense for me to be near
the people that I would have to
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uh, consult with
and get information from, so--
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Closer to where the action is.
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Closer to where the policy work
is being done.
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The president's feeling was
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she's his intellectual equal,
and so why not?
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Because she was willing to
step out in front politically
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she became a lightning rod,
and an object of hatred.
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The First Lady is now involved
in policy implementation
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but she didn't run for office,
the country was not told
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what she would be involved in,
and now she is the architect
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of healthcare and she assembled
a team in secret.
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It's all part of the deception
that seems, to me anyway
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to be the hallmark
of this administration.
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There is a whole sense
out there, I think, of an
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administration that has
somehow suddenly become
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you know, not us.
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[Joe Klein]
These were people
who didn't understand
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what the authority
of men should be.
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They're trying to change
this country
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and make it a different place.
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[David Brock]
From almost the day after
the election
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there were people
that I was associated with
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who were dedicated to
upending that administration
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throwing sand in
the gears of governance
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doing everything
one could to obstruct
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slow down,
harm Bill Clinton.
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[Joe Conason]
"The American Spectator"
magazine
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was kind of
a far right magazine.
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The aim of it was
to bring Clinton down.
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What we saw
conservative journalism
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as was providing
a counterpoint to liberal bias.
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And, of course,
that meant conservative bias.
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In late 1993,
I wrote a story
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about four Arkansas
state troopers
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who facilitated
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philandering by Bill Clinton.
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[male #11]
'In a story in
a conservative magazine'
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'"The American Spectator,"
two troopers formerly members'
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'of Governor Clinton's
security detail'
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'claim that the troopers
themselves would help arrange'
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'then stand guard over sexual
liaisons involving Mr. Clinton.'
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[David Brock]
The troopers were being stage
managed by an arch enemy
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of Bill Clinton from Arkansas
named Cliff Jackson.
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[Cliff Jackson]
I was very involved
as an activist.
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Some called me a gadfly.
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I have been a very effective
gadfly at times.
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I think it's inappropriate
for any elected official
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to use state personnel
to procure women.
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As state policemen,
they were used
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basically as glorified pimps.
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[David Brock] Cliff Jackson's goal was to get a conservative magazine
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to put every lurid detail
into print
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and also lure very credible
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reporters from the "LA Times"
to write a similar story.
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The articles were
a political bombshell.
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Allegations emerged over the
weekend that President Clinton
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when he was governor of
Arkansas, used public employees
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to perform questionable
personal and private duties.
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[David Brock]
Part of the article
had to deal with
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a woman named Paula.
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It said something consensual
had happened between
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the woman named Paula
and Bill Clinton.
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I can't say exactly
why I made the decision
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to put a first name
onto this anecdote
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but it ended up being, uh
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a pretty important decision
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because the woman named
Paula Jones came forward.
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[Paula Jones]
In May of '91,
Bill Clinton harassed me
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on the job
and then basically told me
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let's keep this
between ourselves.
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I just pretended
that it didn't happen
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because who would believe me?
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I grew up in Lonoke, Arkansas.
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I was kind of poor, actually
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I mean, we-we didn't
have a whole lot.
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Very modest,
very religious home.
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Very, very sheltered.
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I didn't imagine
even really working
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when I was young.
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But my dad had passed away
my senior year of high school.
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I had to go to work
and get a job.
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It was such a small town
so there wasn't
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very much opportunity there,
unless you wanted to work
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at the Walmart or Pizza Hut,
and I didn't want that
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I wanted something better
for myself.
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A good friend of mine
worked with the state
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and she said
that they're hiring
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in our department,
and would you like to apply.
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And I thought, "Wow, working
for the state of Arkansas
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that's jumping up there."
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So, I applied, and she put
a word in for me
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and I got, I got the job.
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The part about having a
consensual sexual relationship
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that was far from the truth
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so I just wanted to
get that retracted.
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And they would not do that.
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[Cliff Jackson]
I met with Paula.
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I said, "Paula,
we're going up to Washington
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"and we are going to be
at the CPAC conference.
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I'll introduce you to the
national press and media."
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My name is Cliff Jackson
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and I appreciate all of you
folks slipping and sliding
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over to this, uh,
press conference today
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'and this is, uh,
Paula Jones from Arkansas.'
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[Michael Isikoff]
CPAC is an annual event
on the right.
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It's sort of de rigueur
for conservative Republicans
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to make appearances.
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To the extent that
Bill Clinton had enemies
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they were, uh, mostly all there.
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I was there as the
Washington Post reporter
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to see if there was
news out of this.
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[Paula Jones]
It was terrifying.
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I didn't know what was going to be said about me.
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I just knew I was telling
the truth, and that's all
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that kept me going.
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It is wrong that a woman
can't work in the workplace
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and be harassed by
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a figure that high
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and, um
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it's just humiliating
what he did to me.
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[Michael Isikoff]
A piece came out which
referred to the Paula Jones
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press conference as "another
eruption of Mount Bimbo"
448
00:22:55,548 --> 00:22:58,289
which was a good line,
but I thought
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given the nature
of what she was alleging
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we should at least
hear what her story is
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and investigate it
before we dismissed her.
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I'll just put it this way,
that he presented h-himself
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to me in a very
unprofessional manner
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and I would call it
sexual harassment
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and...that's all.
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A type of sex, yes.
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In May of '91,
I was working the conference
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for business leaders of
Arkansas and I was there to
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sit at the front desk and help
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give them their name tags
and information.
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00:23:54,563 --> 00:23:58,349
Trooper Ferguson
approached me
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and he told me
that Bill would like
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00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,573
to meet with you
up in his room
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and my response was
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"Well, why does he want
to see me?"
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And Mr. Ferguson said
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"It's okay, we do this
all the time."
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And I thought,
"Well, I might get a job."
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That's the only reason
why I-I would think
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that he would want me
up there.
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He was leaning up against
the back of a wing-back chair
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and I was standing
a little ways off from him
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00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:34,516
when he tried to pull me over
and he put his hands up my leg
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00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,779
and he tried to
kiss on my neck
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00:24:36,823 --> 00:24:41,044
and he told me how he liked
the way my curves were
476
00:24:41,088 --> 00:24:42,916
and he liked the way
my hair went down
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to the middle of my back.
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He sat down really fast
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and he dropped his pants
and he was fondling himself
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and he asked me to kiss it.
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I didn't have a clue what,
that he would do that.
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Um..
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I wasn't thinking about it,
so I thought
484
00:25:07,984 --> 00:25:10,334
there's no way he's going to,
I didn't even think about it!
485
00:25:10,378 --> 00:25:12,641
So it didn't even cross my mind
that he would do something
486
00:25:12,685 --> 00:25:13,729
like that.
487
00:25:15,557 --> 00:25:16,558
So..
488
00:25:18,386 --> 00:25:19,779
[sobbing]
489
00:25:30,616 --> 00:25:36,186
[laughing]
490
00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:38,319
I swear I didn't know
this was going to happen.
491
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,845
- Hello! How are you doing?
- Hi. Fine.
492
00:25:52,594 --> 00:25:56,859
[David Brock]
Troopergate inspired
a kind of "Scandal Inc."
493
00:25:56,903 --> 00:25:59,601
for the conservative movement.
494
00:25:59,645 --> 00:26:03,300
Shortly after the Trooper story was published
495
00:26:03,344 --> 00:26:06,565
conservative activists
started to pay attention
496
00:26:06,608 --> 00:26:09,480
to the story of Whitewater
497
00:26:09,524 --> 00:26:12,440
which had surfaced
in the New York Times
498
00:26:12,483 --> 00:26:16,705
in the spring of
the campaign season.
499
00:26:16,749 --> 00:26:21,362
[Jeff Gerth]
In early '92, I did a piece
about Governor Clinton.
500
00:26:21,405 --> 00:26:23,277
I went down to Arkansas
501
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,845
where I first heard
502
00:26:25,888 --> 00:26:27,934
about Jim McDougal
503
00:26:27,977 --> 00:26:31,154
a friend of the Clintons
who was involved
504
00:26:31,198 --> 00:26:33,853
with something called
Whitewater.
505
00:26:33,896 --> 00:26:36,943
Whitewater was
a real estate property
506
00:26:36,986 --> 00:26:40,599
Jim and his wife
bought with the Clintons.
507
00:26:40,642 --> 00:26:44,080
[male #18]
In the late '70s and early
'80s, Jim McDougal was a smart
508
00:26:44,124 --> 00:26:47,562
small town banker who traveled in the cozy circle
509
00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:50,434
where Arkansas politics
and business blur.
510
00:26:50,478 --> 00:26:53,220
I saw Bill and Hillary down
at the Black Eyed Pea
511
00:26:53,263 --> 00:26:54,787
you know, the restaurant,
I said
512
00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:56,571
"I got this piece of land up
on the White River
513
00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:59,400
"that I'm going to buy,
you want to go in with me?
514
00:26:59,443 --> 00:27:01,794
I'll take care of setting
the financing up."
515
00:27:01,837 --> 00:27:03,012
They said, "Okay."
516
00:27:03,056 --> 00:27:06,015
McDougal's a very charming guy..
517
00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:13,806
But he was not disciplined
like a businessman.
518
00:27:13,849 --> 00:27:15,851
[David Kendall]
Jim McDougal made
a lot of investments
519
00:27:15,895 --> 00:27:17,723
some of which were bad
520
00:27:17,766 --> 00:27:20,639
and because the Clintons
were business partners
521
00:27:20,682 --> 00:27:24,686
controversy over the McDougals' other business
522
00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:27,341
sometimes washed over
onto the Clintons.
523
00:27:27,384 --> 00:27:28,864
Like Madison Guaranty.
524
00:27:30,736 --> 00:27:33,173
In the early '80s,
Jim and his, and his wife
525
00:27:33,216 --> 00:27:36,524
bought a savings and loan
called Madison Guaranty.
526
00:27:36,567 --> 00:27:39,527
It was a fast-flying
institution
527
00:27:39,570 --> 00:27:42,225
that got in trouble
pretty quick.
528
00:27:42,269 --> 00:27:44,706
[Jim Blair]
McDougal saw this
little savings and loan
529
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:46,534
which he's quoted of saying
you could buy
530
00:27:46,577 --> 00:27:48,188
for the price of the Buick.
531
00:27:48,231 --> 00:27:53,149
It was not in very good shape
and it crashed.
532
00:27:53,193 --> 00:27:55,195
[Jeff Gerth]
I was in touch with McDougal
533
00:27:55,238 --> 00:27:59,373
and I met him at the Steakhouse off the highway.
534
00:27:59,416 --> 00:28:03,812
He told me that Governor Clinton
had come by one day and said
535
00:28:03,856 --> 00:28:06,728
"Look, you know Hillary
and I are
536
00:28:06,772 --> 00:28:09,426
"in a little bit of
financial trouble.
537
00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:13,126
"Could you hire Hillary
and her law firm
538
00:28:13,169 --> 00:28:16,999
to represent
Madison Guaranty?"
539
00:28:17,043 --> 00:28:20,960
That raised questions about
conflicts of interest.
540
00:28:21,003 --> 00:28:23,745
There's nothing in the piece
I wrote that says
541
00:28:23,789 --> 00:28:27,401
anybody did anything illegal,
or anything unlawful.
542
00:28:27,444 --> 00:28:29,925
And for the rest of the
campaign, after the first
543
00:28:29,969 --> 00:28:34,190
couple weeks, it,
it faded and was not an issue
544
00:28:34,234 --> 00:28:37,541
until the death of
Vince Foster.
545
00:28:39,979 --> 00:28:41,458
[bell tolling]
546
00:28:44,723 --> 00:28:46,507
[female #5]
At the White House,
it is a day of grief
547
00:28:46,550 --> 00:28:48,509
and unanswered questions.
548
00:28:48,552 --> 00:28:51,599
President Clinton cancelled
public appearances today
549
00:28:51,642 --> 00:28:54,907
over the apparent suicide
of his deputy legal counsel
550
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:57,997
and old friend,
Vincent Foster.
551
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,042
[female #6]
Foster left work
at the White House
552
00:29:00,086 --> 00:29:03,654
drove to a park in Virginia,
and shot himself.
553
00:29:03,698 --> 00:29:07,441
It is an immense
personal loss to
554
00:29:07,484 --> 00:29:11,706
to me and to Hillary and to
many of his close friends here
555
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,796
and a great loss to the White
House, and to the country.
556
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,148
[Michael Isikoff]
Vince Foster was the deputy
White House counsel
557
00:29:19,192 --> 00:29:22,282
and also had been
Hillary Clinton's
558
00:29:22,325 --> 00:29:26,242
close partner
at the Rose Law Firm.
559
00:29:26,286 --> 00:29:28,331
This was a stunning event.
560
00:29:28,375 --> 00:29:32,074
What prompted this very,
you know, powerful man
561
00:29:32,118 --> 00:29:34,729
in the White House
to commit suicide?
562
00:29:36,557 --> 00:29:39,081
There was an investigation.
563
00:29:39,125 --> 00:29:41,649
The Park Police showed up
at the White House
564
00:29:41,692 --> 00:29:45,479
to see if there was a note,
to see if there was anything
565
00:29:45,522 --> 00:29:50,310
that might explain why
he had taken his own life.
566
00:29:50,353 --> 00:29:52,878
The White House counsel
took the very traditional
567
00:29:52,921 --> 00:29:55,184
position of lawyers which is
568
00:29:55,228 --> 00:29:59,493
no it's attorney-client,
you can't see the material.
569
00:29:59,536 --> 00:30:01,800
[male #19]
Records kept by Foster
on business dealings
570
00:30:01,843 --> 00:30:03,497
of the Clintons
were turned over
571
00:30:03,540 --> 00:30:07,109
to President Clinton's
personal lawyer.
572
00:30:07,153 --> 00:30:09,372
[David Kendall]
Files weren't made public.
573
00:30:09,416 --> 00:30:13,550
That fed a suspicion that
there must be something there.
574
00:30:13,594 --> 00:30:15,639
[male #20]
Federal investigators said
they want to examine
575
00:30:15,683 --> 00:30:17,859
files removed
from Foster's office
576
00:30:17,903 --> 00:30:21,515
pertaining to the Clinton's
business dealings in Arkansas.
577
00:30:21,558 --> 00:30:24,997
[David Brock]
The anti-Clinton opposition
started marketing theories
578
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,174
that Vince Foster was murdered
rather than committed suicide.
579
00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:33,875
Right now, I want
the undivided attention of
580
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:36,922
every God-fearing
American citizen.
581
00:30:36,965 --> 00:30:39,141
Please get your pencil in hand.
582
00:30:39,185 --> 00:30:41,752
I'm going to tell you
what you, as one person
583
00:30:41,796 --> 00:30:45,234
can do to demand that
the American people be told
584
00:30:45,278 --> 00:30:49,151
the truth about Whitewater
and Vince Foster's death.
585
00:30:49,195 --> 00:30:53,025
The reason why that there is
a coverage of this
586
00:30:53,068 --> 00:30:56,463
that doesn't go away is that
the Clintons are lying.
587
00:30:56,506 --> 00:31:00,119
One should never underestimate
the genius of Rush Limbaugh
588
00:31:00,162 --> 00:31:02,295
and of the impact that he had.
589
00:31:02,338 --> 00:31:05,124
It raises questions of
whether or not we can trust
590
00:31:05,167 --> 00:31:06,908
this president,
and we can't investigate it
591
00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:09,606
because we've got
one party rule in Washington.
592
00:31:09,650 --> 00:31:11,217
[Joe Klein]
And he could say
any sort of stuff.
593
00:31:11,260 --> 00:31:14,307
In fact the only
consequence was
594
00:31:14,350 --> 00:31:16,962
that he would get more
listeners who were fearful
595
00:31:17,005 --> 00:31:19,878
and wanted to be entertained.
596
00:31:19,921 --> 00:31:23,577
[Robert Fiske] People on the right were saying Vince Foster was murdered
597
00:31:23,620 --> 00:31:25,971
by the Clintons
because he knew too much
598
00:31:26,014 --> 00:31:29,931
or if it was a suicide it was
because he was so distraught
599
00:31:29,975 --> 00:31:32,847
at the severity of the Clinton's
problems with Whitewater
600
00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,850
that he couldn't
take it anymore.
601
00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:39,158
[David Brock]
The Republican establishment
got infected
602
00:31:39,201 --> 00:31:43,466
by a kind of
anti-Clinton disease
603
00:31:43,510 --> 00:31:48,558
that was fomented first
in further right circles
604
00:31:48,602 --> 00:31:53,085
but became embraced by politicians like Newt Gingrich.
605
00:31:53,128 --> 00:31:56,001
There is no question that
we need an Independent Counsel
606
00:31:56,044 --> 00:31:58,568
in Whitewater, and I think
the longer the Clintons avoid
607
00:31:58,612 --> 00:32:00,962
doing that, the more, frankly,
people are going to suspect
608
00:32:01,006 --> 00:32:04,096
that there's a reason they don't
want an Independent Counsel.
609
00:32:04,139 --> 00:32:07,316
[Robert Fiske]
Republicans go to
Janet Reno and say
610
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,971
"We want you to appoint
a special prosecutor."
611
00:32:10,015 --> 00:32:13,322
[David Kendall]
Some of Clinton's advisors
were very adamant
612
00:32:13,366 --> 00:32:17,152
that something had to be done
because the legislative agenda
613
00:32:17,196 --> 00:32:20,286
was being totally tied up
in Congress.
614
00:32:20,329 --> 00:32:21,983
[Robert Fiske]
The President said he wanted
615
00:32:22,027 --> 00:32:24,681
Janet Reno to appoint
a prosecutor.
616
00:32:24,725 --> 00:32:28,859
I got a phone call, "Bob, is there any way you can do this?"
617
00:32:28,903 --> 00:32:32,124
And I basically said,
"How can I say no?"
618
00:32:32,167 --> 00:32:34,996
The attorney general Janet Reno
has named a Republican lawyer
619
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,693
to be what everybody
will surely call
620
00:32:36,737 --> 00:32:38,260
the Whitewater Special Counsel.
621
00:32:40,523 --> 00:32:43,091
I would certainly expect that
before this investigation
622
00:32:43,135 --> 00:32:45,659
is over that I would question
both the President
623
00:32:45,702 --> 00:32:48,444
and the First Lady,
and it would be under oath.
624
00:32:48,488 --> 00:32:52,405
I had jurisdiction to
investigate anything relating
625
00:32:52,448 --> 00:32:54,755
to the president and
Mrs. Clinton's relationship
626
00:32:54,798 --> 00:32:58,759
with Whitewater
and Vince Foster.
627
00:32:58,802 --> 00:33:02,284
I told everybody when we
started, no matter what we did
628
00:33:02,328 --> 00:33:03,982
it was going to get criticized.
629
00:33:04,025 --> 00:33:06,114
So I said we just have to
put all that aside
630
00:33:06,158 --> 00:33:08,682
we're just going to do our jobs
and we won't worry about that.
631
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:16,037
On June 30th 1994
632
00:33:16,081 --> 00:33:18,735
we issued a report that
said that Vince Foster
633
00:33:18,779 --> 00:33:23,131
had committed suicide
in Fort Marcy Park.
634
00:33:23,175 --> 00:33:26,917
[Joe Conason]
Robert Fiske found that
Vince Foster had indeed
635
00:33:26,961 --> 00:33:31,052
committed suicide and
not for any nefarious reason.
636
00:33:31,096 --> 00:33:34,577
From the Republican point of
view, that also meant
637
00:33:34,621 --> 00:33:38,538
that he was going to find that
there was nothing to Whitewater.
638
00:33:38,581 --> 00:33:40,453
That was not what
they wanted to hear.
639
00:33:40,496 --> 00:33:43,325
The cover-up
continues here today.
640
00:33:43,369 --> 00:33:46,850
Fiske's independence has been
seriously questioned.
641
00:33:46,894 --> 00:33:49,723
For propriety's sake,
they have to replace, uh
642
00:33:49,766 --> 00:33:54,032
Mr. Fiske with a brand new
Independent Counsel.
643
00:33:54,075 --> 00:33:55,859
[James Carville]
The Republicans saw it
644
00:33:55,903 --> 00:33:58,775
in spite of all evidence
to the contrary
645
00:33:58,819 --> 00:34:02,127
we have deemed the Clintons
to be corrupt and no matter what
646
00:34:02,170 --> 00:34:04,216
that's our story
and we're sticking with it
647
00:34:04,259 --> 00:34:05,869
and we don't care.
648
00:34:05,913 --> 00:34:08,176
We all carried beepers
in those days
649
00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:10,091
the beeper went off
and I looked at it.
650
00:34:10,135 --> 00:34:14,052
"You won't believe this, you've
been replaced by Ken Starr."
651
00:34:14,095 --> 00:34:16,228
Federal judges have named
a new chief of the Whitewater
652
00:34:16,271 --> 00:34:19,492
investigation he's Independent
Counsel, Ken Starr.
653
00:34:19,535 --> 00:34:22,408
[female #3]
'Starr, a Reagan Republican,
is a former federal appeals'
654
00:34:22,451 --> 00:34:25,802
'judge, and served as George
Bush's solicitor general.'
655
00:34:25,846 --> 00:34:30,242
[Ken Starr]
I thought I would be
in Little Rock for six months
656
00:34:30,285 --> 00:34:32,983
but then I discovered
Whitewater
657
00:34:33,027 --> 00:34:36,944
was a very multifaceted
investigation.
658
00:34:36,987 --> 00:34:40,513
My view was very simple,
this is all about rule of law
659
00:34:40,556 --> 00:34:44,125
it's all about accountability.
That's it.
660
00:34:44,169 --> 00:34:47,433
I guarantee you,
no better lawyer than I am
661
00:34:47,476 --> 00:34:49,870
you give me
an unlimited budget
662
00:34:49,913 --> 00:34:54,309
and give me a target,
you for example
663
00:34:54,353 --> 00:34:56,703
I can prove you broke
some federal laws.
664
00:34:56,746 --> 00:34:59,923
I guarantee I can.
You didn't know you did it.
665
00:34:59,967 --> 00:35:02,361
You didn't mean to do it. You
didn't know they were crimes.
666
00:35:02,404 --> 00:35:04,406
But you've broken
some federal laws.
667
00:35:04,450 --> 00:35:06,539
As you know there are
suggestions, allegations
668
00:35:06,582 --> 00:35:09,498
call them rumors if you will,
that somehow money
669
00:35:09,542 --> 00:35:11,283
'from the savings and loan'
670
00:35:11,326 --> 00:35:15,722
was funneled into Bill Clinton's
campaign coffers.
671
00:35:15,765 --> 00:35:18,638
That's a lie,
that's a Republican lie.
672
00:35:18,681 --> 00:35:21,641
Ken Starr turned the Clintons,
and their friends
673
00:35:21,684 --> 00:35:23,469
and their lives upside down.
674
00:35:23,512 --> 00:35:26,036
And what Starr
and his team found
675
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,995
in many cases,
was not very pretty.
676
00:35:30,563 --> 00:35:33,696
ing]
677
00:35:33,740 --> 00:35:36,873
[woman on PA]
'Ladies and gentlemen, the
President of the United States.'
678
00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:42,052
I'm delighted to see you,
you look wonderful, all beaming.
679
00:35:42,096 --> 00:35:44,533
[laughing]
680
00:35:44,577 --> 00:35:47,493
'You look around here,
if they had a picture like this'
681
00:35:47,536 --> 00:35:50,017
'of the White House interns
30 years ago'
682
00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:54,717
they'd all be guys like me,
30 years younger
683
00:35:54,761 --> 00:35:57,807
and now we've got a real picture
of America here.
684
00:35:57,851 --> 00:36:00,375
I hope you're
having a great summer
685
00:36:00,419 --> 00:36:03,378
and I hope that this experience
has been a very good one for you
686
00:36:03,422 --> 00:36:06,076
and it's something that you will
take with you all your lives.
687
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,904
[applauding]
688
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:14,781
[Monica Lewinsky]
After I graduated college
the plan had been to get
689
00:36:14,824 --> 00:36:17,653
a PhD in forensic psychology.
690
00:36:17,697 --> 00:36:19,699
I was very interested in where
691
00:36:19,742 --> 00:36:23,311
the law and psychology
intersected
692
00:36:23,355 --> 00:36:27,968
but I had not scored high enough
on this one section of the GRE
693
00:36:28,011 --> 00:36:31,276
so we had a family friend
whose grandson had done
694
00:36:31,319 --> 00:36:34,192
the White House internship
the summer before
695
00:36:34,235 --> 00:36:37,238
he said if I was interested,
he'd certainly recommend me.
696
00:36:39,414 --> 00:36:42,200
I was delighted and surprised
697
00:36:42,243 --> 00:36:44,419
to get the internship.
698
00:36:44,463 --> 00:36:47,944
It was not just xeroxing papers or answering phone calls
699
00:36:47,988 --> 00:36:50,251
but I was writing.
700
00:36:50,295 --> 00:36:52,732
Leon Panetta was
chief of staff at the time
701
00:36:52,775 --> 00:36:54,342
and I was part of the team
702
00:36:54,386 --> 00:36:56,997
that handled
his correspondence.
703
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,262
Before that, I wasn't actually
very interested in politics.
704
00:37:01,306 --> 00:37:05,310
In my essay to apply,
I talked about how having been
705
00:37:05,353 --> 00:37:09,836
a psychology major, we studied
the mind of the individual
706
00:37:09,879 --> 00:37:12,186
and that I felt the White House
was the mind of the country.
707
00:37:14,188 --> 00:37:17,147
It was just this
overwhelming experience
708
00:37:17,191 --> 00:37:20,890
tinged with a lot of positivity at that point.
709
00:37:20,934 --> 00:37:24,503
But I-I was young, you know,
I was young, I was starry-eyed
710
00:37:24,546 --> 00:37:26,722
and there's something
in the air there.
711
00:37:26,766 --> 00:37:29,029
There's the smell of eucalyptus
712
00:37:29,072 --> 00:37:32,424
it's weighted with history,
and the sense of
713
00:37:32,467 --> 00:37:36,297
power not so much from powerful
people, but from power of
714
00:37:36,341 --> 00:37:39,605
how the decisions that are made
there, they shape our country.
715
00:37:39,648 --> 00:37:42,303
They affect lives.
716
00:37:42,347 --> 00:37:45,741
I loved working at
the White House.
717
00:37:45,785 --> 00:37:48,962
Early on, there was sort of
this period where
718
00:37:49,005 --> 00:37:51,617
I had these strange encounters
with some other interns
719
00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:54,750
one in particular of this girl
gushing about the president
720
00:37:54,794 --> 00:37:57,710
talking about how handsome
he was and I just remember
721
00:37:57,753 --> 00:38:01,191
thinking to myself, "Ew,
you know, this is this old guy
722
00:38:01,235 --> 00:38:04,369
with wiry grey hair and how
could she find him attractive!"
723
00:38:06,980 --> 00:38:08,808
I didn't get it until
the first time
724
00:38:08,851 --> 00:38:12,551
I was really in his presence.
725
00:38:12,594 --> 00:38:16,032
I was struck, in a way,
that he had this ability
726
00:38:16,076 --> 00:38:19,819
to hold everybody
who was there
727
00:38:19,862 --> 00:38:22,256
not just young women,
not just older women
728
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:24,563
but young men, older men,
gay, straight
729
00:38:24,606 --> 00:38:27,392
everybody is sort of
starry-eyed in his presence.
730
00:38:30,656 --> 00:38:34,007
I kind of have to laugh
at my younger self
731
00:38:34,050 --> 00:38:36,357
but that was when
my crush started.
732
00:38:41,580 --> 00:38:45,235
When the opportunity arose
to attend a departure ceremony
733
00:38:45,279 --> 00:38:46,889
or some of the other events
734
00:38:46,933 --> 00:38:49,544
I did.
735
00:38:49,588 --> 00:38:52,460
The first time, he sort of
seemed on autopilot
736
00:38:52,504 --> 00:38:54,984
so my crush kind of
waned a bit
737
00:38:55,028 --> 00:38:59,032
the second time was different.
738
00:38:59,075 --> 00:39:03,558
He, you know, paid
a lot of attention to me.
739
00:39:03,602 --> 00:39:06,213
He spent time sort of standing
there and held my hand longer
740
00:39:06,256 --> 00:39:09,303
than he should have, and gave
what others have described
741
00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:11,523
as "The Full Bill Clinton."
742
00:39:11,566 --> 00:39:14,743
It feels as if you're
the only person standing there.
743
00:39:17,659 --> 00:39:22,142
The next day, we had
a surprise party for Bill
744
00:39:22,185 --> 00:39:24,362
on the South Lawn
that the staff was having.
745
00:39:27,452 --> 00:39:30,106
I did this really silly thing.
746
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:33,501
I ran home at lunch time,
and I put back on
747
00:39:33,545 --> 00:39:35,721
the sage green suit I had been
wearing the day before
748
00:39:35,764 --> 00:39:37,810
when he paid attention to me
and I thought, well, maybe
749
00:39:37,853 --> 00:39:39,725
he'll notice me again.
750
00:39:42,075 --> 00:39:44,425
And, notice me he did.
751
00:39:51,171 --> 00:39:53,434
Over the course of
the rest of August
752
00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:56,306
and September and October
and into November
753
00:39:56,350 --> 00:39:59,353
we had a number of these
flirtatious encounters.
754
00:40:01,877 --> 00:40:06,447
There was really no sense
for me of anything beyond
755
00:40:06,491 --> 00:40:10,059
I have this crush, and
this person I have a crush on
756
00:40:10,103 --> 00:40:11,844
is actually paying
attention to me.
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