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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,840 To start with, yes of course, I want to play football. 2 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,320 My philosophy was: we want to win the game. 3 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,760 We have to master the game. You need to have the ball. 4 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,160 You need great technique. 5 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,600 You also need match intelligence. That's clear. You need time. 6 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,120 You need money to do that, 7 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:51,400 but you also need physical potential. 8 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,880 Everyone says mental strength is very important. 9 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,640 But to have mental strength on the pitch, 10 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,880 you need players who, before all else, 11 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,280 are able to run. 12 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,400 Who are able to run. Do you understand? 13 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:16,640 Because saying, "He has a super mentality, 14 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,440 but he can't run back and forth," that's no use. 15 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,920 And if you have a player on the team, 16 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,720 who does nothing defensively, 17 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,240 you don't have a team. You don't have a team. 18 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,280 That's dangerous. Losing possession here, counter... 19 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:39,320 Nowadays you have to be able to play hurt. They can suffer, really suffer. 20 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,120 This is... You asked me about my philosophy. 21 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,160 To play football, but... 22 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,520 You can have a team, a real team. 23 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,880 And then you can wage war, if you have that. 24 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,200 If you have that. 25 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,040 Okay, guys. We'll do two rounds of circuit training. 26 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,200 Then we can watch some football. 27 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,040 In the summer, we didn't know how Dortmund were doing. 28 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,520 The squad had changed significantly. There were many new players. 29 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,760 Plus a new manager. These are factors for which you can't plan. 30 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,880 Football isn't a drawing board. 31 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,840 We want to improve a lot, to play good football. 32 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:15,040 If someone had told us on July 1st that we'd be here in Marbella, 33 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,040 leading the table by six points, I'd have said, "Who? Us?" 34 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,760 It's gone far better than we ever imagined 35 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,480 in our wildest dreams, which of course causes problems in itself. 36 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:34,760 Increased expectations. All around Borussia Dortmund, 37 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,200 we face more media pressure. But it could be worse. 38 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,840 We want to play good football, but of course also winning football. 39 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,440 Sadly both those things aren't always possible. 40 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,960 We've seen that before. Sometimes you have to win ugly. 41 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,720 The philosophy's very clear. We want to play good football. 42 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,720 We want to excite the fans. 43 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,160 And the manager brings the perfect qualities to implement that. 44 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,120 Two rounds of exercises. 45 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,200 This year we had a super team. 46 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,440 Lots of young players had a great deal of success. 47 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,320 We're proud of that, but the project is just starting, there's a long way to go. 48 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,600 At the home game, 49 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,840 they really let Leipzig play to their strengths in Dortmund. 50 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,800 They were able to counter quickly. We were playing quite high, 51 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,840 and we left gaps. 52 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,720 They could have led 2:0. 53 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,000 Luckily that didn't happen. Bürki made saves. That was crucial. 54 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,880 In the end we won 4:1. 55 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,160 I'm glad I was there at that moment and could help the team. 56 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,280 That's really when it started with our good run, I'd say. 57 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,280 At some point it really started. They were flying. 58 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,120 Jadon Sancho showed what an outstanding street footballer 59 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,040 he is on the pitch as well. 60 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,600 Paco Alcácer came on very late and scored instantly. 61 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Everything worked in that phase. 62 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,240 Paco Alcácer totally amazed me. 63 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,400 He came, he saw, he scored. 64 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,120 It's incredible how little time he needed 65 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,280 to acclimatize in Dortmund. 66 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,960 He's a natural-born scorer, 67 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,000 and also he's someone his team-mates can link up with. 68 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,760 It's quite a rare combination, 69 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,840 with classic center-forwards, with classic penalty box strikers. 70 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,200 We thought long and hard about who to play at No. 9. 71 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,160 We had Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang for years there most recently. 72 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,800 And in that phase it became theoretically possible 73 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,280 that we could take Paco on loan. 74 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,680 That Barcelona were willing to let him go. 75 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,720 We knew him from Valencia. Then he moved to Barça. 76 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,360 Normally he'd be off our radar. 77 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,000 But the problems they're having with competition are well known. 78 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,960 And of course Paco has had a huge impact here, because he 79 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,160 has a finishing quality that I have rarely seen before. 80 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,520 On the other hand, we also had a bit of luck. 81 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:39,440 At the time of Paco's transfer, no one thought he'd score 12 goals in 12 games. 82 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,080 You always have to stay humble. 83 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,600 I'm sure we made a lot of good decisions. 84 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,040 You have to compliment Michael Zorc, who was in control overall. 85 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,320 But a bit of luck is part of it too. 86 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:28,040 Mario Götze had made an almost traumatically poor start to the season. 87 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,320 In the summer he wasn't called up for the World Cup. 88 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:35,400 Then he lost his starting place at Borussia Dortmund. 89 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,120 At times he wasn't even on the bench. 90 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:44,400 Against Augsburg, he came on, he got involved at once, he was there. 91 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,480 For me it wasn't a redemption, but it was a moment when I thought 92 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,080 the previous months hadn't gone well, 93 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,800 then coming on and scoring, at home in front of the south stand, 94 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,320 it was all perfect, and it was a special moment for me. 95 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:09,400 I could feel all the positive energy being showered on me. 96 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,360 For me personally it was a very emotional match. 97 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,720 It think that was something that did him personally a world of good. 98 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,720 Also because of the fact that everybody 99 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,840 celebrated for him. 100 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,480 That everyone in the stadium that afternoon knew 101 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,040 just what that goal, what that moment, 102 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,920 that explosion, meant to Mario Götze. 103 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,880 The Dortmund fans in the south stand weren't always his greatest friends. 104 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,320 There were still quite a lot of them 105 00:10:42,680 --> 00:10:45,800 who hadn't forgiven him for going to Bayern Munich, 106 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,480 who didn't give him a friendly welcome when he came back. 107 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,160 The Augsburg game, where we won 4:3 in the 96th minute 108 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,480 with Paco's free kick, those are emotions you rarely have in football. 109 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,120 That was extremely important 110 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,320 for us as a team for the remainder of the season. 111 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,600 It was fantastic. I was totally stoked after the match. 112 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,000 It was crazy. 113 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,760 But the next day you still have to analyze the match, 114 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,200 and realize it was very, very hard. 115 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,840 Bayern was a brilliant game, 116 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,960 because on that day, Bayern also played very well. It was an excellent match. 117 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,000 And then to win it, 118 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,560 and for all the people watching to think it was a fair result, 119 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,200 that boosts your self-confidence to another level. 120 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,880 The match against Bayern was a boost, of course. 121 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,640 We went behind twice, 122 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,680 but then we came back three times. 123 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,160 And that characterizes us at the moment, 124 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:09,040 that we're willing to go beyond the limit, that we believe in ourselves. 125 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,840 We made some great transfers, we have a good age structure, 126 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,960 experienced players and young players. 127 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,400 And it's a good mixture that we have at the moment. 128 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,200 We learned a lot from last season. That's why we opted for 129 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:39,120 more drastic measures and changes. 130 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:43,240 We didn't really have a good balance in the team last year. 131 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,600 We were too easy to beat. 132 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,000 If you as Dortmund get two points from an easy Champions League group, 133 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,120 it means you've done it all wrong. 134 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,520 In the end we realized that we perhaps 135 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:04,120 focused too much on footballing elements of the team line-up, not on the rest. 136 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,320 Also, the attack on the team bus 137 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:11,520 had a far greater negative impact on the following season 138 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,680 than we could have imagined in any nightmares. 139 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,640 You prepare for a Champions League game, you spend ages in the hotel, 140 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,200 you're glad when the bus finally leaves for the stadium. 141 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,960 We hadn't even gone 100 meters, 142 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,040 and suddenly there was a huge bang. 143 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,880 Then shortly afterwards a second one. 144 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,600 I saw Marc Bartra screaming... 145 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,640 We all tried to take cover, because we didn't know what it was. 146 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,800 Yes, it was... 147 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:04,560 Those were the most terrible minutes or seconds of my life, I think. 148 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,520 You didn't know what was happening. 149 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,400 The whole bus shook. I heard windows shattering. 150 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,120 I automatically slammed on the brakes, as I think anyone would. 151 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,320 Then I saw clouds of dust in the mirror, 152 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,800 that the explosion had caused. 153 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,520 And of course I was perplexed for ten seconds, because 154 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,840 I didn't know what had happened. Then I turned around to Mr. Tuchel. 155 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,160 I asked him, "Thomas, do you know what just happened?" 156 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,680 He didn't answer, because he was preoccupied with himself. 157 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,440 In the back, Marc Bartra was injured, which I hadn't realized up front. 158 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,320 There was shouting, a commotion. 159 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,440 Then I saw Marc, his wrist covered in blood. 160 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,280 He was yelling, he was sweating and pale. 161 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:04,000 There was a hole, like a bullet hole, in the bus. 162 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,920 You didn't know if people would come in, or what was happening. 163 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,200 Were there several of them? 164 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,080 You were lying on the floor, and hoping it was over. 165 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,600 We yelled that he should keep driving, that we shouldn't stop there, 166 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,160 that we should move away from the whole thing. 167 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,880 It was very frightening, alarming to be there at that moment, 168 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:38,640 and to look at your team mates and friends and see fear, 169 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,760 with the young players hiding under their seats. That was really... 170 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,160 something that you don't want to experience. 171 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,360 Now we have experienced it and we're trying to deal with it. 172 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:07,080 There was a driveway on the right that joined the main road 100 m further on, 173 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:13,360 There was a hedge on the right, where the pipe bombs were positioned. 174 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:23,880 Before long, I think I was the first, I informed our office, using the words, 175 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,720 "There's been a bomb attack on the bus." 176 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,560 I said I thought we couldn't play that day. 177 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,120 At first they didn't believe me. 178 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,600 The first retort I got was "April Fool's Day was ten days ago." 179 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,360 Then when I got home, I watched the news for the first time. 180 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,480 When they started talking on TV about the bomb attack, 181 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,840 attempted murder, that's when it sank in that it had really happened. 182 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:03,680 When they talked of 27 counts of attempted murder, you were one of them. 183 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:10,280 I think it got really bad for me when you saw what could have happened. 184 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,040 That we had a huge amount of luck. 185 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,120 How much shrapnel was found in the headrests, 186 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,160 or didn't even hit the bus. Or for example that 187 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,680 there were cars parked between the bus and the explosives, 188 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,000 which also took some of the force of the blast. 189 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:43,400 Mostly I only talk about it to people in whom I've already confided. 190 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,480 Otherwise whenever there's a quiet moment now 191 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,560 and something gets dropped somewhere, or there's a loud noise, 192 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,840 unfortunately it still happens that 193 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,480 you get a bigger fright than you normally would. 194 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,480 But that's also something that, 195 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,120 with these conversations or with the frequency of these moments, 196 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,560 that you start to deal with better. 197 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,840 I still have after-effects too. 198 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,520 But I no longer automatically associate them directly 199 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,160 with someone dropping something, when there's a loud crash. 200 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,040 That causes a bit of anger in me and I think, "Hey, be careful." 201 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,760 Several people warned us about post-traumatic problems 202 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:38,120 that would arise six to eight months later. 203 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,320 That's what happened and it was exacerbated by the court case. 204 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,640 Players, who today go about their jobs in quite a sheltered environment, 205 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,760 were suddenly confronted with very different things. 206 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:56,480 On Thursdays they sit in court opposite the bomber, who is 5 to 10 m away. 207 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,680 And many players couldn't cope with that. 208 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,480 They were shattered on Thursday evening and had to play a match two days later. 209 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,120 That was a turning point. And you saw which players were doing okay, 210 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,800 and which players would be better off with a change of environment. 211 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:19,160 If you don't board the black and yellow team bus, or stay at the hotel, 212 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:24,720 then maybe you'll feel freer again. And so we had a big clear-out. 213 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:28,320 Perhaps we needed to do that a year earlier, if we had realized. 214 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,120 But then I'm sure we'd have been accused of scaremongering, 215 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:38,200 of dumping players who were victims of a bomb attack two months previously. 216 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,320 At the end of the day, we couldn't find a better solution, 217 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:46,480 because there is no blueprint. No club can claim ever to have experienced this. 218 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,440 Then Rapha, Jacob, Jules, Achraf, 219 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,680 Ömer, Julian and Marius. 220 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,840 Dortmund's club management changed a bit. Sebastian Kehl was brought in. 221 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,400 Aki Watzke and Michael Zorc asked me if I could take a look at things. 222 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,120 If I could give any input and ideas. 223 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,880 A few transfers were made to give the team a face again. 224 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,120 But you need a conductor. 225 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,040 The director is Lucien Favre. 226 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,080 He's a very experienced manager. 227 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,720 You can see wherever he's been that his teams 228 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,400 play very structured, very attractive football, with lots of possession, 229 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,120 and control the game, and he advocates that. 230 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:40,120 But, and this perhaps differs from certain previous years, 231 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,360 he still tries to bring a proper, healthy balance to our game. 232 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,480 He gives the team a clear signature. 233 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,920 What makes the uniqueness of a manager 234 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,440 is that you recognize from the style of play, 235 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,800 without having to see the uniforms, 236 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,520 that this is a team that plays like Lucien Favre, 237 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,080 that plays like Guardiola or like Jürgen Klopp. 238 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,680 I can't say what he'd do in his free time otherwise. 239 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,080 I only know him meticulously attending to all the things 240 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,560 that are needed to win the next match. 241 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,640 He knows the opposition inside out. 242 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,720 If he's overlooked something, he rewinds the video and shows everyone. 243 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,280 He really wants everyone to understand what he means. 244 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,400 And for us to be like that too. For us to live football as well. 245 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,560 And that's exactly what we need. We need the example of how he does it. 246 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,080 Come on, come on. Hey! 247 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,760 He loves watching football, talking football and thinking about football. 248 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,360 He loves standing at the tactics board, tinkering with new ideas to implement. 249 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,680 Someone with his career, in the business for so long, 250 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,000 who stills questions things every day, 251 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:10,480 looking for new approaches and solutions, that impresses me a lot. 252 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,240 He tries to improve small details 253 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,640 in the players, which all together have a big effect. 254 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,000 I've seen it in a lot of players 255 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:32,640 who have developed in small areas without noticing, 256 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,560 but who do things differently from six months before. 257 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,920 You can always improve technique. And there's a lot they can learn. 258 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,680 Who can make a diagonal pass with left and right? 259 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,640 Instead of using the right foot, 260 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,400 and you lose ten seconds, and your opponents are already there. 261 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,800 You have to see who can do that. 262 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,680 Who has the potential to do that? 263 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,560 In six months, in a year and so on. 264 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,000 At the same time, he's also very, very human. 265 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:13,480 Very, very happy about things when they work. 266 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,520 As a team, we're always so glad when we see he's glad 267 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,360 that something works out that we've practiced. 268 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,480 And that's the special spirit that we've developed 269 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,920 since the summer, that we push each other, 270 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,440 but also show each other respect, if we've achieved these things together. 271 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,960 Borussia Dortmund has to some extent broken with its own transfer philosophy. 272 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:50,120 That means they no longer just bank on young talent that can be developed, 273 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,040 because last season they noticed 274 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,160 that in certain pressure situations the team didn't really seem to fight. 275 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,640 That in some games they even collapsed. 276 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,080 They also lacked a bit of experience. 277 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,720 In our meetings, Matthias Sammer kept describing 278 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,000 a certain type of player that we lacked, 279 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:25,040 without us even knowing that Witsel was coming on to the market. 280 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,200 I remember Michael coming to us suddenly 281 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,000 whereupon we had another meeting, and he said, 282 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:36,560 "Witsel is coming on to the market, maybe we have a chance." 283 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,720 And all four of us were totally electrified, 284 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,520 because he's the player type 285 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,720 that in theory we'd have come up with beforehand as a transfer target. 286 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,040 Morning, Axel. 287 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:03,440 We call it the king transfer, as Axel is the head of the team in that position. 288 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,800 You never feel like he'll lose the ball. Even in tricky situations 289 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,560 he doesn't lose it. He gives his all, no matter how it makes him look. 290 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,200 Axel is someone we could have done with in the last few years. 291 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,960 His calm on the ball, the structure, 292 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,000 the way he plays football, and prepares for matches and trains. 293 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:30,240 He's an extremely intelligent player, 294 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,520 who dictates and demonstrates the rhythm to this team. 295 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,920 It's was a stroke of luck that he was available, 296 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,320 that I got a call saying, "Axel Witsel could be coming on the market. 297 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,720 He wants to leave China." With such outstanding quality, 298 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,640 I believe he could play a part in any team in the world. 299 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,960 After a great World Cup with Belgium, I thought it was the right moment. 300 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,280 I thought it was my last chance, to return to Europe to a big club. 301 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,360 And also with it being Dortmund, I didn't hesitate for a second. 302 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,520 We progressed through the Champions League very well. 303 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,640 That's quite unusual in the Champions League, 304 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,960 conceding only two goals in the group stage, in only one of six games. 305 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,200 We were looking good, very stable. 306 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,480 For me overall, the best game this team played, 307 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,360 where you could see the huge potential this squad has, 308 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,840 was the home Champions League match against Atlético Madrid. 309 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,120 I think Atlético Madrid is the most difficult team 310 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,480 you can play against when it comes to scoring goals. 311 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,960 And Borussia Dortmund tore them apart. I found that deeply impressive. 312 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,680 For me it was also the best game that Mario Götze has played for years. 313 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,200 Jadon Sancho's a real street footballer. There aren't many of them left now. 314 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,000 People often get called street footballers, 315 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,160 but really they've pretty much died out in Central Europe. 316 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,520 We only ever deal in probabilities. Never certainties. 317 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,640 I'd never say, "I know. It was obvious. It was bound to happen." 318 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,760 There's always a risk, and the younger the players are, the bigger the risk is. 319 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,640 But still, a year ago we decided 320 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,000 to pay 7.5 million for the then 17-year-old, 321 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,000 even though he hadn't played a minute in the Premier League. 322 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,200 It was only based on his talent, 323 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,600 which we had seen in the England youth teams, 324 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,880 that we concluded that the lad needed one to three years 325 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,720 before he could help Borussia Dortmund. 326 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,080 But it happened so fast... He's still a youth player. 327 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:53,160 He could play for our A-youth team against Preussen Münster, going by age. 328 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,600 But he has unbelievable quality. 329 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,640 And what's even more amazing, 330 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,800 is the consistency of his performances. 331 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,960 I think he's broken every record in England. The lad has a massive future. 332 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,680 That you can say with certainty! 333 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,240 Age isn't a limiting factor for us here. 334 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,280 I really like working with young people, and so does the manager. 335 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,200 Because the aims are often the same. 336 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,720 I think what we've developed well in recent years, 337 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,160 is, if you like, the calling card we can present. 338 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,120 So as well as the targets we've set, which are quite ambitious, 339 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,280 we're also a good step to take for young players 340 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,760 wanting to develop to the highest level. 341 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,000 Jadon Sancho isn't only a gifted dribbler, 342 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,000 but in addition to that, which combined makes his greatest skill, 343 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,760 even when he's dribbling and moving 344 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,440 he looks up, sees a team mate in a better position 345 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,840 and then puts in a precise pass to him. 346 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,080 That takes skill. Not everyone can do that. 347 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,200 Jadon's 18. We have to be careful not to overload him, 348 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,040 as things can come to a standstill for six months. 349 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,960 But he's an instinctive footballer. 350 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,480 He knows the right thing to do from the flow of the move. 351 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,600 You can't coach that. Either you have it or you don't. 352 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,960 He has the ability to become one of the really great players in Europe. 353 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,640 He needs consistency and to get over difficulties, 354 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,400 and to keep pushing himself. 355 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,040 One must never forget how young he is. 356 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,600 All the hype around him this season isn't easy for him to deal with either. 357 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,720 Being confronted with transfer fees in the hundreds of millions 358 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,480 at that age, with all the challenges, it's really not easy for him. 359 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,000 He became an England regular very fast and gets lots of media attention there. 360 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,960 So part of what the club is doing is to keep him grounded. 361 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,080 To tell him he'll keep developing, and that he still needs 362 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,040 a little time to process it all and to take the next step. 363 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,800 I have no sporting worries about him. But all the stuff around him, the hype, 364 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,960 if he learns to deal with it, with his environment and family, 365 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,960 he'll become a great. But he still has a few challenges to meet. 366 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,760 Franky, do you have a long-armed under-shirt for me? And a short one? 367 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,280 Long and short? 368 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,320 Long in L and short in XL, please. 369 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,440 Dženis, wait! 370 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,320 Wait! 371 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:06,000 This isn't a job, where you sit around, do your work and then go home. 372 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,800 You're totally involved with the club. 373 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,680 You have highs and lows, and I've been through it all. 374 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,480 We've won the league, won the double, we've won the cup. 375 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,000 When things are going badly, we have to stick together 376 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,360 and put things right, and we always manage to do that. 377 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,760 Sure, they have moods. 378 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,760 If you have any knowledge of people, then you know 379 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,760 whether to speak to Player X now or wait till lunchtime. 380 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,040 You have to be able to do that. 381 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:42,480 I spoke to them the way they did to me. If that didn't suit them, 382 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,680 they came back two days later and had calmed down. 383 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,400 I have the nerve to do that. 384 00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:01,200 I trained as a mining mechanic for three years. 385 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,440 I did my apprenticeship in the "Fürst Hardenberg" and "Minister Stein" pits. 386 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,840 I was underground for over ten years 387 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:12,400 until I came up for health reasons after I slipped a disk. 388 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,720 It was a great time. 389 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,040 And it saddens me that the last mine has been closed down. 390 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,400 Because with all the pits we had all around Dortmund, 391 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,840 something has died out. And my buddies who are out of work now, 392 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,200 you feel for them. That's how it is. 393 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,680 Dortmund's kit man Frank Gräfen is a real rarity today with his mining past. 394 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,400 An absolute exception. 395 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,920 This connection between mining and football used to be the norm. 396 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,720 That's how Dortmund first got put on the map. 397 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,200 Dortmund stands for steel, iron and coal on the one hand, 398 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,520 and for the Hall of Westphalia and Borussia Dortmund on the other. 399 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,520 You virtually breathe that down-to-earthness. 400 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,720 You didn't have to seek it out. It was just there. You found it everywhere. 401 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,600 I got to know Adi Preissler and various old warriors there 402 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,480 and I was always hearing about 403 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,120 the significance of the club for the city and the region. 404 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,240 You absorb that, and there was a massive sense of identity. 405 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,520 All the commotion surrounding it today 406 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,640 didn't exist then, 407 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,000 The simple saying, "Let's get down to brass tacks", 408 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,200 has been the most formative one for me to this day. 409 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,400 I could identify with people who lived by that. 410 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,120 If you ask me today about the breed of people I feel really close to, 411 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,120 then it's the people in and around Dortmund. Definitely. 412 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,160 Despite bad weather, almost 70,000 are packed into the Olympic Stadium 413 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,000 for the final of the German League. Dortmund, in light shirts, vs Karlsruhe. 414 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,120 Following a scramble in the Karlsruhe goal mouth, Niepieklo gets the ball 415 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,240 and scores an unstoppable goal. 416 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,640 In the 27th minute, Kelbassa heads in a corner. 2:1 to Dortmund. 417 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,480 Borussia Dortmund beats Karlsruher SC 4:2 418 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,920 and deservedly become German champions. 419 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,840 Before their success in the 50's, Borussia Dortmund were 420 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,800 only involved as also-rans. That changed fundamentally, of course. 421 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,360 In those days the players were all from the area, they were locals. 422 00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:04,160 Charlie Schütz from Lütgendortmund, Lothar Emmerich from Dorstfeld, 423 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,760 Willi Sturm, Aki Schmidt. Hoppy Kurrat was from Borsigplatz, he lived there. 424 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,720 On the right, all in white, FC Cologne. 425 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,800 '63 was the last time the old format of the German League was played. 426 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:24,000 The odds-on favorites were FC Cologne, 427 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,120 with Hornig, Schnellinger, Schäfer and so on. 428 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,880 It was a great team. We were rank outsiders. 429 00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:32,280 It was unbelievably hot. 430 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,200 I know my parents travelled there by bus. 431 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,960 Goal! 432 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,280 When I think that we beat Cologne 3:1, 433 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,800 at my young age, that was the greatest success you could imagine. 434 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,760 Being a German Champion at 22 was unimaginable. 435 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,640 Beating Liverpool 2:1 for a big title, the Cup Winners' Cup, was crucial. 436 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,120 They got into the final in 1966, 437 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,720 though Liverpool were the favorites. 438 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,640 Emmerich. 439 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,760 Aki Schmidt... Emmerich. 440 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,600 It went to extra time. It was 1:1 after 90 minutes. 441 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,040 It was an energy-sapping match. 442 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,040 And as luck would have it, Stan Libuda, a great right winger, 443 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,560 both for Schalke and for us, 444 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,400 got the ball in the 106th minute 445 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:39,080 and put a long looping chip into the English goal... 446 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,920 Libuda's ball drops into the goal! Into the goal! 447 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,080 Into the goal. That's unbelievable. 448 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,240 They rolled the red carpet out for us. 449 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,880 People on both sides of the autobahn were waving black and yellow flags. 450 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:03,360 Right into the city, via Borsigplatz. 451 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,160 The city was filled with people. You can't imagine what it was like. 452 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,520 And then we really enjoyed what we had achieved. 453 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,840 It was very special for the region here and for all of Germany. 454 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,560 It was the second biggest football success after World War II. 455 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,880 The first World Cup win in '54, 456 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:30,720 and in '66, a German team first won the Cup Winners' Cup. 457 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,280 That boosted people's self-esteem in the region. 458 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,800 Particularly here, where it's all about work, hard grueling work. 459 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,920 For them that was something that they could really look up to. 460 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,600 If we want to be at the top in the end, we need to get hungrier, 461 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,000 because the competition are improving. 462 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,640 I don't know if we can. I ask myself that 20 times a day. 463 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,960 I don't know this team well enough yet. 464 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,760 Everything worked in the first 18 ties. You walked on the pitch thinking, 465 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,920 "So what if they take a 1:0 lead? We'll win." 466 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,760 It's certainly possible. But I definitely think that 467 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,600 the second round of 18 games will be extremely hard. 468 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,680 Bayern Munich will have a resurgence. 469 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,880 It will be a challenge for us, 470 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:36,560 starting with the Leipzig match, 471 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,240 to muster the same desire to win as in the first half of the season. 472 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,600 We didn't win every match 5:0 walking away, 473 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,360 some were hard-fought and turned-around. 474 00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:49,960 Can we do that again? Have we 475 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,840 drawn any false conclusions from the situation in the table right now? 476 00:41:55,200 --> 00:42:00,080 The Christmas tree's decorated, everyone says you're favorites for the title. 477 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,680 There's no reason for us to change our approach, 478 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,120 even if we're the team to beat. So what? So be it. It's irrelevant. 479 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,760 It will be hard in Leipzig. 480 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,080 It'll be war. We have to go into the contact, 481 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,520 be physically prepared. They're strong. 482 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,080 Especially in Leipzig. I don't think they've lost at home. 483 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,200 I wouldn't say the game will decide who wins the league. 484 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,160 But if we do win in Leipzig, 485 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,600 we'll stay in an upward spiral, like we have now. 486 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,120 And we have to continue on that spiral. 487 00:42:54,960 --> 00:43:00,200 We knew if we didn't perform in Leipzig, it wouldn't be a great start. 488 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,840 So it was an important game to set us up for the rest of the season. 489 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,200 For one thing, it was a great goal. You don't score those every day. 490 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,960 It was also symbolic of Axel Witsel in the first 18 games. 491 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,400 He surprised many people by seizing the central role. 492 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,560 He came here, and we all know Dortmund fans are critical of mercenaries. 493 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,600 Then someone comes, who played for years in Russia and China. 494 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,200 And you think, in terms of quality, another league would be enough for him. 495 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,520 So what does he want? Does he just want to cash in? 496 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,280 And I think Axel Witsel gave the best answer. 497 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,200 He showed he wants success, he wants to win. 498 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,640 I think he has the best passing stats in Europe. 499 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:56,000 He's very important. Now we know why he's called the "lifeboat" in Belgium. 500 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,760 He often saves his team. If need be, with goals, like against Leipzig. 501 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,120 The win in Leipzig was a big point. No question. 502 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,280 During the match, I was pretty sure we'd win, 503 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,000 because we were in better overall form that day. 504 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,400 Bravo, guys! 505 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,920 I've been doing this with Aki Watzke for over a decade. 506 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,800 When there are problems, you may sometimes run the risk 507 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,480 of always having the same answers, always reaching for the same textbook, 508 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,120 and always using the same recipes to find solutions. 509 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,680 So I think it's good to have someone like Matthias Sammer 510 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,400 who isn't part of the club, who observes everything from a distance. 511 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,800 He doesn't have to be there often. 512 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,360 We know Matthias, 513 00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:06,120 and the warts-and-all appraisal that he gives, 514 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,720 so that we can perhaps come to new ways of solving things. 515 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,120 I was interested, because the next step for me 516 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,240 wasn't to return to an active management role anywhere. 517 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:25,080 I can't and I don't want to be a danger to anyone active in the sport. 518 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,760 No manager or club executive needs to be scared of me anymore 519 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,760 in the sense that I'm angling for a position in a club. 520 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,960 Congratulations. - What for? - Saturday. 521 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,800 I've been a player, a manager, responsible for youth players 522 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,640 and I've worked in club management roles. 523 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,600 I think I have some understanding of what makes people tick. 524 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,480 And I've made it quite clear 525 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,680 I don't want to be any of those things now. 526 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,600 Maybe I'd like to be a player again, but that isn't really possible. 527 00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:03,440 Knowing that has to be the starting point. So I always try 528 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,120 to present arguments from the perspective of the whole. 529 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,000 Then the call came. 530 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,680 I was quite clear 531 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,720 that I wanted to get back into professional football, 532 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,520 but I also wanted to go to the club I love, Borussia Dortmund. 533 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,800 Because the role hadn't existed in that form, 534 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,920 the need for it had grown to some extent over the year. 535 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,920 You cannot simultaneously initiate transfers 536 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,400 be having talks, be abroad, 537 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,160 complete transfers, and always be the contact person, 538 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,480 for the team, for the manager, for players that are maybe injured 539 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,920 or are unhappy about not playing enough. 540 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,160 So I thought it was urgently necessary 541 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,960 to bring somebody in to help and support us, 542 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,400 but who is also a heavyweight. 543 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,720 And I think we made a good choice in Sebastian Kehl. 544 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,240 Let's begin. What's your take on it from watching on TV? 545 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,440 The problems in defense... 546 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:17,120 As a calculated pessimist, which one can be in phases like this, 547 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,880 you have to prepare yourself for when it gets really difficult. 548 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,720 It was an exceptional reaction by the team to match them. 549 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,920 Leipzig hadn't lost a game at home till then. 550 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,800 So my gut feeling would have been, 551 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:37,280 "If you take a point there, it would be important for team morale." 552 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:43,000 The middle was rock solid, in my eyes. Everything else stabilized as a result. 553 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,120 Especially in the center of midfield, with Axel and... 554 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,720 Delaney, no question about it. 555 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,360 When it comes to analysis of potential players, 556 00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:57,760 Matthias is the one who has lots of input. 557 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,320 At the end of the day, this is a meeting 558 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,280 that's intended to give Michael Zorc some orientation and assistance. 559 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:11,080 Because ultimately he has to make the decisions. We don't vote on them. 560 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,240 It's clear that Michael is responsible for the transfer area. 561 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,400 And he has to decide. But he would be stupid 562 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,840 if he didn't take the others' assessments seriously. 563 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,720 I discussed it previously with Michael, saying we should open up, 564 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,280 due to the realization that the business is getting ever more complex. 565 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,080 And it worked. 566 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,200 Before we start talking about transfer concepts, 567 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,840 what is still current from your perspective? 568 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:43,920 Well, Balerdi... We've brought him forward to the winter. 569 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,680 The transfer was originally planned for the summer. Why is this? 570 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:53,400 There was suddenly some pressure from other clubs expressing interest. 571 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,720 And also, even though the transfer would give us options, 572 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:03,400 in connection with our injury situation in central defense... 573 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,040 First of all, it was very big of Aki Watzke and Michael Zorc 574 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,760 to say at all, "We're expanding the team of experts and areas of responsibility." 575 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,160 Because they also knew they were bringing in two guys 576 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,200 who are active in the media, 577 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,800 who make their presence felt and have a certain self-confidence about them. 578 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:29,840 But I think it will all lead to us making better decisions. 579 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,080 To us having an even better team in the future. 580 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,840 Hopefully we'll succeed. 581 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:42,520 I've brought the up-to-date results from the performance test we did. 582 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,280 There are some changes. We'll probably have to speak to the rehab department, 583 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,280 and to the athletic department about getting one or two to a new level. 584 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,560 Hakimi is a huge talent. 585 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,520 He's much more than just a right-back. He's fast, 586 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,600 he has great close ball control, 587 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,520 he's dangerous in front of goal, he has vision. 588 00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:37,680 In many other Bundesliga teams he'd have prominent role in attack. 589 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,000 He could do that. Without a doubt. 590 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,560 A great player. A real enrichment for Borussia Dortmund and the Bundesliga. 591 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,120 We have him for another year and a half. 592 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,680 I wonder if Borussia Dortmund can keep him for longer. 593 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,800 If I was Real Madrid or had a say in the matter, 594 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,840 then Dortmund wouldn't have a chance of keeping him. 595 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,680 Achraf provided a great assist for my second goal. 596 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,480 He gave his opponent no chance, he stole the ball and played me in. 597 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,440 Nowadays it's extremely important to have wide players in attack, 598 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:27,520 who win one-on-ones and create situations where you have more players. 599 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,360 I've played every three days at this level for ten years, 600 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:35,160 My body is getting older, that's normal, 601 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,640 and for young players to come along too, that's part of football. 602 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:44,880 Achraf is incredibly dynamic and lively. 603 00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:48,120 He's the fastest player in our team. 604 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:54,400 Seeing these guys deal with situations in such a relaxed way at their age 605 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,560 is still hard to believe. To be honest, only these signings are improving us. 606 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,320 It doesn't help me or the club 607 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,760 if we don't improve in certain positions or create competition for them. 608 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,800 It's important not to get discouraged, and also to treat each other 609 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,800 with respect and to push each other on to the highest level. 610 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,960 I was born here and spent my whole childhood here. 611 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:20,240 You absorb the Borussia Dortmund DNA. I went to the stadium with my parents. 612 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,160 Back then of course, there was no way of knowing that one day 613 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:29,520 I would run out into the stadium and play before that massive backdrop. 614 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,760 So it's really a dream that came true at some point. 615 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,840 So yeah, I'm pretty proud for sure. 616 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,880 I'm going to be a father of a beautiful daughter. That will bring changes. 617 00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:04,600 I don't want to end up one day wishing that I'd enjoyed my time more. 618 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,320 I think that would hurt me the most. 619 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,560 I'm still finding my way of course, 620 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:14,320 but I know what I want and I've made a solid start to life. 621 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,680 Of course, the injuries were difficult for me, also mentally. 622 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,080 Nevertheless, they were "only injuries". 623 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,200 Other people are worse off. You have to view it like that. 624 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,920 A bit lower, please. You know how it works. 625 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,080 A cruciate ligament injury is as bad as it gets. 626 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,280 The team went back out for the second half. I bandaged his knee. 627 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,880 Then you're in the dressing room and all you can do is reassure him. 628 00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:06,600 He knew fine well something serious had happened. The doctor checked him. 629 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,160 You virtually grieve with him. 630 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,360 There's so little you can do in that situation. 631 00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:16,160 Now, this is known as the "torture method". 632 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,840 It's not that bad. - Yes, sure. 633 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,440 There were phases when I 634 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:27,640 really had to struggle hard to bear it any longer. 635 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,400 It was a very difficult time, 636 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,040 when you keep on learning about other things going on in the world, 637 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,400 to make the world a better place. 638 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,960 I have to say, that cruciate ligament injury, it was... 639 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,040 That was the most painful thing. 640 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:50,000 I can reassure him, and convince him with my therapy, 641 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,040 that it will work. You just can't rush such a long process. 642 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,880 Sure, there's pressure from all sides. 643 00:55:57,240 --> 00:56:01,520 The club says, "When will he be fit? When can he play? We need him." 644 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,760 The manager asks how it's looking. You're always discussing it. 645 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,200 You can't be swayed by that. As a therapist, you must go your own way. 646 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,680 It's primarily about the player. The rest is secondary. 647 00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:16,600 Come on, Thomas, not so hard. - It's always like this. 648 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,800 I kept telling Marco, "You'll have to go beyond your limits. 649 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,040 And me beyond mine. 650 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:27,240 Because if we don't, you won't be able to bend your knee the way you should." 651 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,040 Move your foot forward a bit. 652 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,400 When we're trying to integrate him in team training again, 653 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,640 it's walking on the razor's edge. 654 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,000 But it's teamwork. We have a good doctor, good physios. 655 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,520 We've worked together closely and talked to Marco a lot. 656 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,600 You develop a feeling for it. 657 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:49,920 Enough. 658 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,680 Unfortunately Marco has always had the problem 659 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,000 of being sidelined too long and too often. 660 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,440 And now we finally have the scenario 661 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,600 where he's stayed free of injury for a longer period of time, 662 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:11,360 Now we're seeing what can happen when he can play for six months, 663 00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:16,040 when he can make his mark on every match and is involved in goals. 664 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,760 And above all, the development he's made in terms of character. 665 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,200 He coy about it, he doesn't like talking about it, 666 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,640 but it is a special honor for him to be captain of Borussia Dortmund. 667 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,200 You sit on the outside feeling amazed how well he's doing personally. 668 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:04,680 Not just his knee, but how he accepted it and got over such a serious injury. 669 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:21,800 You celebrate in a different way. I'm even more glad about every goal 670 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,360 than before. It's great to see things are going so well. 671 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,920 Marco isn't only a player, who makes a difference on the pitch. 672 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,080 He's also extremely important in the dressing room. 673 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,520 He knows the club extremely well and he plays a large part 674 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:47,480 in integrating young players and new signings. He does that really well. 675 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,480 Marco is now living the role as captain. 676 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,080 He's grown with the responsibility. 677 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,800 You can see how much he enjoys it. He's playing his best season ever. 678 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,760 It's absolutely world-class the way he's playing. 679 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:16,920 It may be difficult, but to achieve the impossible with the club, 680 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,480 like winning the Champions League, it really motivates you. 681 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,840 That's why you go to the training ground every day and try to improve. 682 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,400 The aim is also for Dortmund to win the Bundesliga at some point. 683 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:34,520 That wouldn't only be my childhood dream, it would be massive. 684 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,040 For the neutral, it was a festival. 685 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,840 It ticked all the boxes of what you expect from a German Cup tie. 686 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,760 We knew from the start it would be a difficult match. 687 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:08,800 As well as that, our top two goalkeepers were out due to illness. 688 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,400 That was the day I'd been longing for since I was a boy. 689 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,680 I'd been on the bench for two Bundesliga games. 690 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,640 I got my first experience there. 691 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:25,000 Of course, I never imagined that they would both be sidelined, 692 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,120 and that I'd be playing my first professional match. 693 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:34,040 Maybe in my hopes or dreams, but I wasn't really expecting it. 694 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,400 The first thing that went through my head was, 695 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,960 "Cool, finally I get my chance." 696 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,000 But at the back of my mind I could feel the tension. 697 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:47,920 Playing in front of 80,000, 698 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,800 and the icing on the cake, it was against my old team. 699 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,640 I knew nearly all of the opposing team. 700 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,360 I'd told him, "Sometimes it's easier to play in front of 80,000 than 5,000." 701 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,640 The game got off to an unfortunate start for him. 702 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,200 He hadn't yet made a save, and the deflected free kick went in. 703 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,760 Absolutely unstoppable. Nothing he could do. 704 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,360 We were at home, conceded early. In that situation we knew 705 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:34,760 they'd sit deeper, play on the counter, making it harder for us to score. 706 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,640 Axel Witsel seems like someone who's seen it all before, 707 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,520 who won't get ruffled by any dicey situations. 708 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,640 Against Werder Bremen, where not much was on for the team, 709 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,880 with few scoring opportunities, he then drew that foul 710 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,520 just outside the penalty area. 711 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,880 He a crafty fox. And that craftiness is an attitude, 712 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:16,000 which the team, for all its talent in years gone by, has missed a bit. 713 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,960 It was a great position for a free kick, both for me and for Rapha. 714 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,520 The referee said, "Marco, this is the last play of the half." 715 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,440 And I thought, 716 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,360 "Either we come up with something, or it's the old-fashioned way, 717 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,280 and we take a direct shot." 718 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:51,080 If it went over the wall and came down, I knew it would be hard for the goalie, 719 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,520 because the ball was extremely close to the goal. 720 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:59,440 So I needed to whip it in, so the ball would fall nicely. 721 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:10,640 Marco Reus had to go off at half-time. He had twinges in the adductor area. 722 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,200 The goal scorer, the player wearing number 11, 723 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,920 Marco... - Reus! 724 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,600 As a footballer you think you're hardened, it won't be that bad. 725 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,600 I wanted to continue playing, of course. 726 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,840 At the start of the match I noticed it was a bit worse. 727 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:35,480 In the second half, without Marco Reus, you noticed something was lacking. 728 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,360 Eric Oelschlägel was exuding confidence, 729 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,080 and he even got a hand to the free kick by Max Kruse, 730 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:50,800 which was hard to stop, and saved us, so we got into extra time. 731 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,760 That game will have taken him longer than two days to process! 732 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,840 When you score in extra time, in the half-hour you have, 733 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,800 out on the pitch you start thinking, "Okay, we've done it." 734 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:38,040 We were proved wrong. You have to play till the 120th, the 125th minute, 735 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,880 and be at your maximum level, to stay focused and win the match. 736 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,280 It was extremely bitter for Eric Oelschlägel 737 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,880 that he didn't look good when it went to 3:3. 738 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,280 That is a personal tragedy. 739 01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:01,760 I don't think it will bowl him over, but it is bitter for Borussia Dortmund. 740 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,960 It was our own fault, And of course it's worst 741 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,560 when you're on the bench and want to help the team yourself. 742 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,360 I knew from my time at Bremen how lots of players take penalties. 743 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,000 I knew I'm quite good with penalties. 744 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,400 But overall, I have to admit the Bremen penalty-takers were better. 745 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:50,040 You can play badly or have no chance, but to lead twice in extra time, 746 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,960 then as the home team, and also with the quality we have, 747 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:59,000 you have to see out the win and not let it come down to penalties. 748 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,880 We failed to do that. Overall, we didn't defend well enough. 749 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:08,720 It's annoying, to be honest, because we wanted to progress in the competition. 750 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,880 No, we'll do it here. 751 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,040 We were playing Bremen. Tough opponents for everyone this season. 752 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:21,360 They're hard to play against. Good team. It was 3:3 in the end. We're out. 753 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:26,200 But Piszczek wasn't there. Akanji wasn't there. Sancho was ill. 754 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,440 Marco went off at half-time. Two goalkeepers weren't there... 755 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,440 No one's talking about that? 66086

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