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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,074 Ondertitels door Mister Bee Bart Besems 2 00:00:17,517 --> 00:00:20,975 If there's no drummer, there's no timing. 3 00:00:21,021 --> 00:00:22,386 Can you hear that drummer? 4 00:00:22,455 --> 00:00:24,047 Can you hear the drummer? 5 00:00:24,090 --> 00:00:25,614 Can you hear me? 6 00:00:25,658 --> 00:00:27,182 Yeah. 7 00:00:27,227 --> 00:00:29,320 You can do the right thing, you can do the right thing, 8 00:00:29,362 --> 00:00:31,353 but if you do the right thing, even with the right person, 9 00:00:31,398 --> 00:00:32,797 for the right reason, 10 00:00:32,832 --> 00:00:35,232 but if it's at the wrong time... 11 00:00:35,268 --> 00:00:38,829 everything gets jacked up and twisted. 12 00:00:38,872 --> 00:00:40,737 Somebody say timing. 13 00:00:44,544 --> 00:00:45,568 Timing. 14 00:00:45,612 --> 00:00:48,877 Prof had such great timing. 15 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:53,017 While the hood was going through changes, 16 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:57,046 while America was going through mutations, 17 00:00:57,090 --> 00:00:59,285 Paul Chevalier can tell ya, 18 00:00:59,325 --> 00:01:05,924 you could depend on Prof's solid timing. 19 00:01:08,034 --> 00:01:11,492 Conrad Johnson and the Kashmere Stage Band. 20 00:01:11,538 --> 00:01:13,472 We were called Thunder Soul. 21 00:01:15,542 --> 00:01:17,567 We called him Prof at Kashmere Senior High School 22 00:01:17,610 --> 00:01:19,908 because Prof stands short for Professor. 23 00:01:19,946 --> 00:01:21,436 A Houston-based music teacher 24 00:01:21,481 --> 00:01:24,609 turned his high school band into a national sensation. 25 00:01:25,952 --> 00:01:27,920 I got the idea to start a band 26 00:01:27,954 --> 00:01:29,945 and build a band out of young people 27 00:01:29,989 --> 00:01:33,390 that was equivalent in sound and in appearance 28 00:01:33,426 --> 00:01:35,485 to that of the professionals. 29 00:01:35,528 --> 00:01:37,325 He reached into our soul. 30 00:01:37,363 --> 00:01:39,991 He could see the future inside of us. 31 00:01:40,033 --> 00:01:43,093 The Kashmere Stage Band gave the community part of its identity. 32 00:01:43,136 --> 00:01:46,105 It made everybody proud because we were kicking. 33 00:01:46,139 --> 00:01:47,197 Kashmere was just tight. 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,037 - We was the bomb. - It was the lick. 35 00:01:49,075 --> 00:01:50,667 It was the baddest band in the nation. 36 00:01:50,710 --> 00:01:52,541 They made their statement, man. 37 00:01:52,579 --> 00:01:54,672 When the Kashmere Stage band were at their peak, 38 00:01:54,714 --> 00:01:58,878 they were as good or better than any funk band in the nation, 39 00:01:58,918 --> 00:02:00,886 professional or otherwise. 40 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,148 This is great funk music, 41 00:02:02,188 --> 00:02:03,746 and they're high school kids. 42 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:15,830 Attention, all Kashmere High School students, this is... 43 00:02:15,869 --> 00:02:18,133 Where your uniform? 44 00:02:18,171 --> 00:02:19,570 Uh-huh, I'm not playing. 45 00:02:24,744 --> 00:02:26,769 High school stage band performances 46 00:02:26,813 --> 00:02:29,145 often proved to be nothing more than memories, 47 00:02:29,182 --> 00:02:31,241 but right here at Kashmere High School 48 00:02:31,284 --> 00:02:32,876 in Northeast Houston, 49 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,979 a legend was spawned. 50 00:02:36,022 --> 00:02:38,923 He first attended the Houston College for Negros 51 00:02:38,958 --> 00:02:40,983 and he later graduated from Wiley College 52 00:02:41,027 --> 00:02:42,756 in Marshall, Texas. 53 00:02:42,795 --> 00:02:45,423 37 years of teaching. 54 00:02:45,465 --> 00:02:48,059 He was highlighted as a distinguished band director 55 00:02:48,101 --> 00:02:50,569 right here in these very four walls. 56 00:02:50,603 --> 00:02:53,071 You see all these trophies over there? 57 00:02:53,106 --> 00:02:55,097 He put this place on the map. 58 00:02:55,141 --> 00:02:57,803 Mr. Conrad O. Johnson. 59 00:03:02,682 --> 00:03:05,617 Prof, what was the most favorite tune that you arranged? 60 00:03:05,652 --> 00:03:08,985 Favorite tune? Now you ask me a question. 61 00:03:09,022 --> 00:03:13,083 L-I wrote over 50 tunes and arrangements. 62 00:03:13,126 --> 00:03:18,063 Ended up selling 'em to the other bands that were playing in the contests. 63 00:03:18,097 --> 00:03:19,155 Yes, he did. 64 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:20,962 They played my tunes against me. 65 00:03:22,302 --> 00:03:23,462 That was something. 66 00:03:23,503 --> 00:03:27,769 I think the most exciting thing about being a band director 67 00:03:27,807 --> 00:03:32,710 is introducing to people what a band can do 68 00:03:32,745 --> 00:03:36,203 and how well they can do it. I really enjoyed it, 69 00:03:36,249 --> 00:03:39,013 and some of 'em did a bang-up job on it, too man. 70 00:03:39,052 --> 00:03:40,314 - Yeah. - Yeah. 71 00:03:41,321 --> 00:03:43,653 Where does the feel to play come in? 72 00:03:43,690 --> 00:03:47,626 Well, I would say that the feeling comes... 73 00:03:47,660 --> 00:03:52,495 uh, many times from my demanding it. 74 00:04:03,676 --> 00:04:07,112 You have to develop first in his mind that he can do it. 75 00:04:07,146 --> 00:04:09,808 Once he realize that he can play 76 00:04:09,849 --> 00:04:14,684 with the same quality of sound that a professional has, 77 00:04:14,721 --> 00:04:16,746 then he'll stick with it 78 00:04:16,789 --> 00:04:18,484 and he'll strive for that. 79 00:04:18,524 --> 00:04:20,549 But this has to be developed in his mind, 80 00:04:20,593 --> 00:04:22,618 and that's the first thing I work for. 81 00:04:26,933 --> 00:04:28,594 I was kind of shy. 82 00:04:28,635 --> 00:04:32,537 I would basically kind of hide behind my instrument. 83 00:04:32,572 --> 00:04:35,473 That's... That's where... where my power was. 84 00:04:35,508 --> 00:04:38,033 I didn't have that thing that would get out and say, 85 00:04:38,077 --> 00:04:39,237 "Okay, I'm here." 86 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:40,576 I didn't possess that. 87 00:04:40,613 --> 00:04:44,947 So my vehicle for that was the band. 88 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:51,416 I was zoned to another high school. 89 00:04:51,457 --> 00:04:52,924 It was a predominantly white school 90 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:55,120 where they didn't really have a good stage band, 91 00:04:55,161 --> 00:04:57,789 but I just... I couldn't take it anymore. 92 00:04:57,830 --> 00:05:01,960 I just took it upon myself that I was just gonna go to Kashmere. 93 00:05:02,001 --> 00:05:04,333 Everything was going fine, according to plan, 94 00:05:04,370 --> 00:05:07,965 until one day the attendance clerk sent for me in the office 95 00:05:08,007 --> 00:05:09,338 and said you're not in the zone. 96 00:05:09,375 --> 00:05:10,933 You're not supposed to be going to school here. 97 00:05:10,977 --> 00:05:13,445 I was afraid of being put out of Kashmere 98 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:15,970 and not being able to stay and be in the band, 99 00:05:16,015 --> 00:05:20,782 and that's when my dad looked into renting an apartment in the zone. 100 00:05:23,022 --> 00:05:25,422 I kinda got in it for the girls. 101 00:05:27,527 --> 00:05:29,188 But I started liking it 102 00:05:29,228 --> 00:05:32,459 and, uh, I actually, you know, started learning how to play. 103 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:39,431 Bruce was very popular. 104 00:05:39,472 --> 00:05:43,135 At that time, oh, he had all the young ladies. 105 00:05:43,176 --> 00:05:46,270 They were all after him, you know, his talent. 106 00:05:46,312 --> 00:05:49,509 He was the saxophonist, the flutist. 107 00:05:49,549 --> 00:05:52,541 He played everything in the band. 108 00:05:56,289 --> 00:06:00,692 L-I was a little egocentric, I guess, a little arrogant. 109 00:06:00,727 --> 00:06:03,252 I mean, I was Mr. Baritone Saxophone. 110 00:06:04,464 --> 00:06:07,297 It was just a good time, a good situation. 111 00:06:08,801 --> 00:06:11,565 My senior year, it was... it was fabulous. 112 00:06:13,106 --> 00:06:15,802 I was the joker of the band. 113 00:06:15,842 --> 00:06:19,471 Prof would tell us, "Hey, fellas, don't get the big head. 114 00:06:19,512 --> 00:06:21,707 Whatever you do, don't get the big head." 115 00:06:21,748 --> 00:06:23,978 See, you couldn't help but get the big head. 116 00:06:24,016 --> 00:06:27,713 You was in the Kashmere Stage Band, you got the big head already. 117 00:06:31,491 --> 00:06:34,358 I was this timid, shy girl 118 00:06:34,394 --> 00:06:37,295 thatjust wanted to play and make good grades 119 00:06:37,330 --> 00:06:39,230 and really not be seen. 120 00:06:39,265 --> 00:06:42,860 I had to stand in front of the saxophone section at the tryouts, 121 00:06:42,902 --> 00:06:44,631 and they would say, "Here she is. 122 00:06:44,670 --> 00:06:45,762 "Yeah, turn around, baby. 123 00:06:45,805 --> 00:06:49,434 Oh, she is so pretty. Ooh, Gaila." 124 00:06:49,475 --> 00:06:51,602 You know, I heard all these noises behind me 125 00:06:51,644 --> 00:06:53,271 as I'm playing the solo, 126 00:06:53,312 --> 00:06:54,574 but I nailed it. 127 00:06:54,614 --> 00:06:56,605 I was in. I was in. 128 00:06:58,918 --> 00:07:00,385 People would make remarks like, 129 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:03,321 "A girl on a trombone? A girl playing trombone? 130 00:07:03,356 --> 00:07:04,584 Trombones are for boys." 131 00:07:04,624 --> 00:07:06,319 You know, girls didn't play trombones. 132 00:07:06,359 --> 00:07:08,259 They'd make me wanna play it even more so. 133 00:07:08,294 --> 00:07:10,319 A girl can play it and do the movements 134 00:07:10,363 --> 00:07:13,730 and, you know, get down like Prof wanted me to. 135 00:07:13,766 --> 00:07:16,326 I grew up with straight-up thug, you name it. 136 00:07:16,369 --> 00:07:17,734 L-I did some bad stuff. 137 00:07:17,770 --> 00:07:20,500 I used to bum rush everybody. 138 00:07:20,540 --> 00:07:21,734 I didn't care what they had to say. 139 00:07:21,774 --> 00:07:26,040 'Cause I'm... I'm the mo-fo here to get under that man's direction. 140 00:07:26,078 --> 00:07:27,340 That man kept me alive. 141 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:31,749 He molded me into a whole different expression. 142 00:07:41,794 --> 00:07:44,160 I went over and got all this this stuff here. 143 00:07:44,197 --> 00:07:45,630 I even stole this from Prof. 144 00:07:45,665 --> 00:07:47,132 Back in June of last year, 145 00:07:47,166 --> 00:07:49,464 a partner of mine, name of Reginald Rollins, 146 00:07:49,502 --> 00:07:51,333 who was also in the Kashmere Stage Band, 147 00:07:51,370 --> 00:07:52,803 he and I were talking one day 148 00:07:52,839 --> 00:07:58,209 about putting together the original Stage Band members. 149 00:07:58,244 --> 00:07:59,836 We're trying to reunite the Kashmere Stage Band 150 00:07:59,879 --> 00:08:01,710 for the first time in over 30 years. 151 00:08:01,747 --> 00:08:03,339 How you gonna be like that? 152 00:08:03,382 --> 00:08:05,350 This is where it all started for us. 153 00:08:05,384 --> 00:08:07,579 Right here in Kashmere. 154 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:09,281 - Oh, wow. - Look. 155 00:08:09,322 --> 00:08:10,721 Check it out. 156 00:08:12,091 --> 00:08:15,390 Okay, this is all wrong, we gotta redo this. 157 00:08:15,428 --> 00:08:17,794 Man, I can't believe this. 158 00:08:17,830 --> 00:08:19,923 This room looks smaller for some reason. 159 00:08:19,966 --> 00:08:20,933 - How y'all doing? - Hey. 160 00:08:20,967 --> 00:08:22,127 - How ya doing? - Band director? 161 00:08:22,168 --> 00:08:23,465 Adrian Tyler, new band director at Kashmere. 162 00:08:23,503 --> 00:08:24,470 - Tyler, right. - How you doing? 163 00:08:24,504 --> 00:08:25,471 I spoke with you earlier. I'm Rollo. 164 00:08:25,505 --> 00:08:26,597 Okay, yeah. Nice to meet ya. 165 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:27,697 I'm Craig Baldwin. 166 00:08:27,740 --> 00:08:30,470 I'm gonna start off with four chairs for the trumpets, 167 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:32,740 four for the trombones, four for the saxes. 168 00:08:32,778 --> 00:08:35,440 We got on the phones. We started making calls 169 00:08:35,481 --> 00:08:37,449 and we told 'em what the event was for 170 00:08:37,483 --> 00:08:39,314 and that it was for Prof, and immediately, 171 00:08:39,352 --> 00:08:42,515 they started pulling out horns, knocking the dust off of 'em. 172 00:08:42,555 --> 00:08:44,045 Blowing out the cobwebs. 173 00:08:44,090 --> 00:08:45,489 Give me a moment. Let me figure out how to get you here 174 00:08:45,525 --> 00:08:46,924 'cause I definitely need to have you here. 175 00:08:46,959 --> 00:08:48,290 We're gonna do whatever it takes 176 00:08:48,327 --> 00:08:51,262 to get back in the shape to pull this event off. 177 00:08:51,297 --> 00:08:54,698 I mean, we got guys coming from all over the United States, 178 00:08:54,734 --> 00:08:57,066 uh, California, from the East Coast. 179 00:08:57,103 --> 00:08:58,468 We have guys coming in, 180 00:08:58,504 --> 00:09:00,699 actually, from different parts of the world. 181 00:09:00,740 --> 00:09:02,640 Starting to look like something now. 182 00:09:02,675 --> 00:09:04,370 I'm really curious to see: 183 00:09:04,410 --> 00:09:05,809 How are we gonna sound? 184 00:09:05,845 --> 00:09:07,278 The trumpets were standing, so... 185 00:09:07,313 --> 00:09:09,247 I'm putting some chairs back there for 'em 186 00:09:09,282 --> 00:09:10,579 but they will be standing. 187 00:09:10,616 --> 00:09:13,881 You know these guys got a little age on 'em now. 188 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,753 You know, they not as spry as they were. 189 00:09:16,789 --> 00:09:20,953 You came into this room with your focus, ready to play. 190 00:09:20,993 --> 00:09:22,722 Do not come in this room late. 191 00:09:22,762 --> 00:09:26,858 Do not talk, do not interrupt. Do not this, that... 192 00:09:26,899 --> 00:09:28,799 I don't care if it's chewing gum. You cannot. 193 00:09:28,834 --> 00:09:32,600 And when that man said, "Stand up," everybody stood up in sync. 194 00:09:32,638 --> 00:09:35,368 It was like a military sergeant, but it... 195 00:09:35,408 --> 00:09:37,376 Hey. I'm 50 years old, man. 196 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:40,971 And I think that that's one of the reasons why I made 50 years old. 197 00:09:42,081 --> 00:09:44,948 It has to be done while Prof is here with us 198 00:09:44,984 --> 00:09:49,478 to let him know that what he did wasn't in vain 199 00:09:49,522 --> 00:09:52,650 and... and what he did 200 00:09:52,692 --> 00:09:53,488 meant a lot to a lot of different people. 201 00:09:53,526 --> 00:09:54,925 We doin' it for the man. 202 00:09:54,961 --> 00:09:56,861 We're doing it for Conrad Johnson. 203 00:09:59,799 --> 00:10:01,790 My whole desire 204 00:10:01,834 --> 00:10:07,363 is to train and shape the mind of each individual 205 00:10:07,406 --> 00:10:09,670 that I come in contact with 206 00:10:09,709 --> 00:10:11,370 from the standpoint of teaching him. 207 00:10:24,156 --> 00:10:25,521 When they first come to me, 208 00:10:25,558 --> 00:10:29,016 regardless as to what kind of tone that they have, 209 00:10:29,061 --> 00:10:30,756 I work to develop that tone. 210 00:10:30,796 --> 00:10:33,128 And that's the first step: 211 00:10:33,165 --> 00:10:37,625 Learn to play the instrument... 212 00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:39,160 then the music. 213 00:10:45,478 --> 00:10:49,676 Most schools started stage bands in the late '60s and early '70s. 214 00:10:49,715 --> 00:10:52,240 Some got there sooner than others. 215 00:10:54,920 --> 00:11:00,620 Stage band music was very definitely evolved from the big bands of the '40s. 216 00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:02,560 That's the kind of music you played. 217 00:11:02,595 --> 00:11:05,826 You played the popular music and the standards. 218 00:11:05,865 --> 00:11:09,062 For the longest, there was a feeling among school people 219 00:11:09,101 --> 00:11:11,365 that this music was not worthwhile, 220 00:11:11,404 --> 00:11:14,396 that this music was almost, uh... 221 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:15,464 vulgar. 222 00:11:20,146 --> 00:11:22,637 Jazz always intimated 223 00:11:22,682 --> 00:11:26,641 that it was a type of situation where there was drinking allowed, 224 00:11:26,686 --> 00:11:28,119 nightclubs and so forth. 225 00:11:28,154 --> 00:11:31,521 And a lot of administrators and curriculum people 226 00:11:31,557 --> 00:11:33,821 didn't want that in the high... in their school programs, 227 00:11:33,859 --> 00:11:36,521 so we had to refine it. 228 00:11:36,562 --> 00:11:39,895 So that's where the stage band moniker came from. 229 00:11:39,932 --> 00:11:41,092 A lot of these high school band directors 230 00:11:41,133 --> 00:11:42,532 came out of the jazz era, 231 00:11:42,568 --> 00:11:45,594 so they would fashion these performance bands, 232 00:11:45,638 --> 00:11:49,267 stage bands, that would record and perform music 233 00:11:49,308 --> 00:11:51,173 that was inspired by jazz 234 00:11:51,210 --> 00:11:55,442 but was done in a much more pop music sort of way. 235 00:11:55,481 --> 00:11:58,507 A lot of it came out being super-square. 236 00:12:03,089 --> 00:12:08,117 Every 150 stage band records that you can find 237 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,185 from the late '60s and early '70s, 238 00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:16,225 maybe one of 'em will be by a black band, you know. 239 00:12:16,268 --> 00:12:19,897 Maybe two or three of 'em would be from a mixed band. 240 00:12:19,939 --> 00:12:20,906 You know what I'm saying? 241 00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:24,000 Like, it was... a white phenomenon. 242 00:12:24,043 --> 00:12:25,943 When Prof put this band together, 243 00:12:25,978 --> 00:12:29,345 it was really not a standard to have an all-black band 244 00:12:29,381 --> 00:12:31,849 led by a black, you know, band director. 245 00:12:31,884 --> 00:12:35,047 Competition back then, man, was predominant white. 246 00:12:35,087 --> 00:12:37,385 And I mean predominant white. 247 00:12:37,423 --> 00:12:40,256 And we was out there. A all-black band. 248 00:12:40,292 --> 00:12:46,720 Conrad believed that there was no limit to a child's ability to play music. 249 00:12:46,766 --> 00:12:49,894 He'd set incredibly high goals for these kids, 250 00:12:49,935 --> 00:12:52,699 and Conrad inspired them to put everything into it. 251 00:13:01,881 --> 00:13:04,179 This is what they used to look like back in the day. 252 00:13:04,216 --> 00:13:05,877 I used to roam this neighborhood 253 00:13:05,918 --> 00:13:08,250 terrorizing with my brother and my cousin... 254 00:13:08,287 --> 00:13:11,688 my brother Darrell and my cousin Delton. 255 00:13:11,724 --> 00:13:14,352 And this house right here on the left is my uncle's house. 256 00:13:14,393 --> 00:13:15,451 Well, he gave me my first keyboard, 257 00:13:15,494 --> 00:13:17,359 which was stolen. 258 00:13:17,396 --> 00:13:20,490 One of my cousins broke into a club one night and stole it, 259 00:13:20,533 --> 00:13:23,434 and he came to me, trying to sell it to me for $300. 260 00:13:25,638 --> 00:13:27,538 I was born and raised in Fifth Ward, 261 00:13:27,573 --> 00:13:29,268 but what I got over there with Prof, 262 00:13:29,308 --> 00:13:33,176 he was the first dominant male figure that I had 263 00:13:33,212 --> 00:13:35,373 to teach me how to be a man. 264 00:13:35,414 --> 00:13:36,938 L-I can recall walking up to him 265 00:13:36,982 --> 00:13:38,745 and, you know, it was all about the thug attitude, 266 00:13:38,784 --> 00:13:39,978 the thug language, you know? 267 00:13:40,019 --> 00:13:42,647 You know, you don't talk to me like that. 268 00:13:44,323 --> 00:13:45,950 I don't care if I understand what you're saying. 269 00:13:45,991 --> 00:13:48,459 You don't talk to me like that. 270 00:13:48,494 --> 00:13:51,327 'Cause you never know who you gonna be talking to out in the field 271 00:13:51,363 --> 00:13:53,297 and you're representing me. 272 00:13:53,332 --> 00:13:54,959 You're representing the Kashmere Stage Band. 273 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,729 You're representing Kashmere High School. 274 00:13:56,769 --> 00:13:57,929 You're representing your community. 275 00:13:57,970 --> 00:14:00,666 Don't come in here with your thug personality. 276 00:14:02,842 --> 00:14:04,469 My father died, you know, 277 00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:05,704 when I was like 7 or 8 years old. 278 00:14:05,744 --> 00:14:09,612 And my Aunt Bert, you know, she decided to take me in. 279 00:14:09,648 --> 00:14:10,740 I love this house. 280 00:14:10,783 --> 00:14:12,273 She got me started. 281 00:14:12,318 --> 00:14:15,185 She raised six children and she's lost three of them, 282 00:14:15,221 --> 00:14:19,851 and this house is kind of like a university. 283 00:14:21,327 --> 00:14:22,988 One of the things that she's really good at, 284 00:14:23,028 --> 00:14:25,826 she's... she's really good at getting you to see the point. 285 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:27,093 Hey. 286 00:14:29,034 --> 00:14:31,025 About time I got that kiss. 287 00:14:31,070 --> 00:14:33,595 You know I gotta give you kisses and hugs and... 288 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:35,197 Ohh! 289 00:14:36,709 --> 00:14:38,108 How you doing? 290 00:14:38,143 --> 00:14:41,635 Well, you know, my life is always in roller coasters. 291 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:42,942 One moment it's fantastic, 292 00:14:42,982 --> 00:14:45,007 and another moment it's crazy, but I got... 293 00:14:45,050 --> 00:14:46,483 So you broke my rules. 294 00:14:46,518 --> 00:14:48,918 I didn't try to. 295 00:14:48,954 --> 00:14:50,581 You done broke my rules. 296 00:14:50,623 --> 00:14:52,853 I wanna show you something. 297 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:55,884 I'm gonna get those shoes out to illustrate something to you. 298 00:14:57,062 --> 00:15:00,862 Would you wear the right shoe on the left foot? 299 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,197 No. 300 00:15:02,234 --> 00:15:05,203 And the left shoe on the right foot? 301 00:15:05,237 --> 00:15:06,261 No. 302 00:15:06,305 --> 00:15:08,466 You wouldn't do that? 303 00:15:08,507 --> 00:15:09,804 No. 304 00:15:09,842 --> 00:15:15,371 That means that you, as a man, would know right from wrong. 305 00:15:15,414 --> 00:15:16,574 Right. 306 00:15:16,615 --> 00:15:18,344 I raised four boys. 307 00:15:18,384 --> 00:15:21,285 Mm-hmm. Four bad boys. 308 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,083 No, you... you didn't give me no... 309 00:15:23,122 --> 00:15:24,248 Oh, come on, you know it was terrible. 310 00:15:24,290 --> 00:15:25,689 You didn't give me no problem. 311 00:15:25,724 --> 00:15:26,918 I know where you were, 312 00:15:26,959 --> 00:15:30,395 but the other two, I didn't know where they was. 313 00:15:30,429 --> 00:15:32,556 But I always know where you was at. 314 00:15:32,598 --> 00:15:34,190 Over there in that room. 315 00:15:34,233 --> 00:15:35,359 In that room practicing. 316 00:15:35,401 --> 00:15:37,835 That's right. You know, 'cause one of the things you told me 317 00:15:37,870 --> 00:15:40,668 is that I cannot make a mistake, and I'd be out that band. 318 00:15:40,706 --> 00:15:41,798 I have to be in that band. 319 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,205 That band's gonna take me somewhere one day. 320 00:15:43,242 --> 00:15:44,300 - Right. - And you were right. 321 00:15:44,343 --> 00:15:46,277 - He did carry ya. - Mm-hmm. 322 00:15:46,312 --> 00:15:49,110 Well, did I tell you that we are... 323 00:15:49,148 --> 00:15:53,881 I'm going to be directing somewhere close to 25 to 30 guys at one time? 324 00:15:53,919 --> 00:15:57,013 I'm gonna be playing the role of Prof in front of the big band. 325 00:15:57,056 --> 00:16:00,719 Prof did his part as being a leader 326 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:03,421 and instructing y'all young men 327 00:16:03,462 --> 00:16:06,022 to be a great musician. 328 00:16:06,065 --> 00:16:07,430 Yeah, he did his part. 329 00:16:07,466 --> 00:16:08,592 He did that. 330 00:16:08,634 --> 00:16:11,467 And I can't complain about it. 331 00:16:11,503 --> 00:16:12,731 He really did his part, 332 00:16:12,771 --> 00:16:15,433 and I thought it was great 333 00:16:15,474 --> 00:16:18,671 for young men to come out of Fifth Ward 334 00:16:18,711 --> 00:16:24,479 to prove, let the world see it was something good, 335 00:16:24,516 --> 00:16:27,144 young men raised up in Fifth Ward. 336 00:16:28,988 --> 00:16:32,890 I know where you was at all times. 337 00:16:34,026 --> 00:16:35,516 I love you. 338 00:16:35,561 --> 00:16:37,324 - Yeah. - Very much. 339 00:16:37,363 --> 00:16:38,921 You break my rules. 340 00:16:38,964 --> 00:16:41,524 We kind of depended on Conrad, 341 00:16:41,567 --> 00:16:43,125 probably more than we should have, 342 00:16:43,168 --> 00:16:46,467 and... and our band, you know, over half were... 343 00:16:46,505 --> 00:16:47,870 You know, fathers weren't at home 344 00:16:47,906 --> 00:16:51,034 or there weren't father figures in their life, 345 00:16:51,076 --> 00:16:55,103 so we all kind of gravitated to him. 346 00:16:55,147 --> 00:16:57,411 So he didn'tjust teach us the music, 347 00:16:57,449 --> 00:16:59,440 he taught us how to be men. 348 00:17:20,372 --> 00:17:24,331 My father took me to see everything that was musical. 349 00:17:24,376 --> 00:17:28,437 Well, Duke Ellington is about one of the highest examples of that. 350 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,074 It was just... It meant so much to me. 351 00:17:35,087 --> 00:17:39,524 When I was 17, I could have gone professional. 352 00:17:39,558 --> 00:17:43,494 I played dates at clubs for at least 10 years. 353 00:17:43,529 --> 00:17:44,996 I could've worked anywhere, 354 00:17:45,030 --> 00:17:48,898 but I took a job to make sure I stayed at home. 355 00:17:51,770 --> 00:17:55,706 I was about 25, and I met Birdie. 356 00:17:57,876 --> 00:17:59,969 I knew then I wanted her for my wife. 357 00:18:00,012 --> 00:18:03,709 So I ask her if she could take me out... 358 00:18:03,749 --> 00:18:07,344 poor man, I don't have any money, but I'll work... 359 00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:09,081 and she-she said, "Yeah, I'll take ya." 360 00:18:09,121 --> 00:18:12,090 And so that's what I did, and I started teaching school. 361 00:18:15,394 --> 00:18:18,090 Man, he loved Birdie. Man, he loved Birdie. 362 00:18:18,130 --> 00:18:19,688 Man, we'd be out late at night. 363 00:18:19,731 --> 00:18:21,289 Mama Birdie would be right there with us. 364 00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:22,630 Right there with us. 365 00:18:22,668 --> 00:18:23,896 "All right, fellas. 366 00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:25,369 "Y'all know Conrad gonna get on y'all. 367 00:18:25,404 --> 00:18:26,837 Y'all better act right tonight." 368 00:18:26,872 --> 00:18:29,568 Man, Prof loved that woman. Mama Birdie. 369 00:18:29,608 --> 00:18:33,601 Ah, she was... she was his backbone. 370 00:18:33,645 --> 00:18:36,978 She was his everything. Everything. 371 00:18:37,015 --> 00:18:41,076 Mama Birdie was a mama to all of us. 372 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:43,418 We could tell when Mama Birdie was coming in the door 373 00:18:43,455 --> 00:18:46,219 'cause he would literally just stop 374 00:18:46,258 --> 00:18:47,987 and just gaze at her. 375 00:18:48,026 --> 00:18:51,120 There was an ongoing love that everybody wanted, 376 00:18:51,163 --> 00:18:53,654 say, "Gosh, look at the two of them." 377 00:18:53,699 --> 00:18:55,326 They fit together. 378 00:18:55,367 --> 00:18:56,925 Like a glove. 379 00:19:00,038 --> 00:19:02,302 I was married 52 years. 380 00:19:04,243 --> 00:19:07,974 About 10 years ago, my wife died. 381 00:19:18,123 --> 00:19:19,420 Hey, Prof, happy birthday. 382 00:19:19,458 --> 00:19:20,686 Hey, baby. 383 00:19:20,726 --> 00:19:23,923 So we waitin' for you to come on, Prof, so we could eat. 384 00:19:23,962 --> 00:19:25,122 All right. 385 00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:26,722 - Waiting on you. - Good to be here, man. 386 00:19:26,765 --> 00:19:28,255 - Truth be known. - Good to see you. 387 00:19:29,668 --> 00:19:31,568 We have chicken, 388 00:19:31,603 --> 00:19:33,628 we have ribs, 389 00:19:33,672 --> 00:19:34,832 we have brisket, 390 00:19:34,873 --> 00:19:37,808 we have sausage, boudin and regular. 391 00:19:37,843 --> 00:19:40,368 We have beans, we have potato salad, 392 00:19:40,412 --> 00:19:43,176 corn on the cob, pasta salad, and dirty rice. 393 00:19:44,483 --> 00:19:47,919 You know, blessed are to have our patriarch here 394 00:19:47,953 --> 00:19:49,682 celebrating his 92nd birthday. 395 00:19:49,721 --> 00:19:52,121 We're getting ready to sing happy birthday to you. 396 00:19:52,157 --> 00:19:53,351 This is your birthday cake. 397 00:19:54,393 --> 00:19:55,655 It's one candle. 398 00:19:55,694 --> 00:19:57,059 Can you blow it out? 399 00:19:57,095 --> 00:19:58,653 I'm holding your hat. 400 00:20:03,468 --> 00:20:05,060 Come say hi to Prof, Cameron. 401 00:20:05,103 --> 00:20:07,128 That's your great-granddaddy. 402 00:20:07,172 --> 00:20:08,434 Happy birthday. 403 00:20:08,473 --> 00:20:12,034 Yeah, she said it. Yeah, thank you. 404 00:20:12,077 --> 00:20:13,704 That's Charles Junior's son. 405 00:20:13,745 --> 00:20:15,508 Here's a guy that... 406 00:20:15,547 --> 00:20:17,981 that knows everybody in the industry 407 00:20:18,016 --> 00:20:20,314 and he could have been a professional musician, 408 00:20:20,352 --> 00:20:24,516 but he opted to raise his family and to stay here 409 00:20:24,556 --> 00:20:26,854 and to be available to us to educate us. 410 00:20:26,892 --> 00:20:32,194 You have so much full of life being a musician. 411 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:35,689 When l... when I'm teaching young people, 412 00:20:35,734 --> 00:20:40,865 I feel that I'm giving them something that they can lean on 413 00:20:40,906 --> 00:20:42,897 all the rest of their lives. 414 00:20:48,914 --> 00:20:50,882 We have a camaraderie. 415 00:20:50,916 --> 00:20:54,579 Just to receive the invitation was... was just overwhelming. 416 00:20:54,620 --> 00:20:57,020 This... this has been a long time coming. 417 00:20:57,055 --> 00:20:59,319 This should have happened 20 years ago. 418 00:20:59,358 --> 00:21:01,053 It's for Conrad, you know. 419 00:21:01,093 --> 00:21:03,357 It's just, you know, what he instilled in us. 420 00:21:03,395 --> 00:21:04,384 You know, give back. 421 00:21:04,429 --> 00:21:05,555 Don'tjust take, take, take, take. 422 00:21:05,597 --> 00:21:07,030 Give back. 423 00:21:07,065 --> 00:21:12,128 I get an opportunity to see people who I knew 30-plus years ago 424 00:21:12,170 --> 00:21:14,365 and we get a chance to play the music 425 00:21:14,406 --> 00:21:16,806 that we played when we were in high school. 426 00:21:16,842 --> 00:21:18,469 We don't take that lightly. 427 00:21:18,510 --> 00:21:22,446 I think we've all heard a lot in the news about Kashmere 428 00:21:22,481 --> 00:21:25,848 and things that have transpired over the years since we left. 429 00:21:25,884 --> 00:21:30,412 It's a way for us to give something back, to show that at one time, 430 00:21:30,455 --> 00:21:35,085 this band program at Kashmere was a source of pride for this school. 431 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:37,061 This is a must. We have to come together 432 00:21:37,095 --> 00:21:38,494 to do this for our teacher, 433 00:21:38,530 --> 00:21:39,895 for our father. 434 00:21:39,931 --> 00:21:42,229 Whatever we have to do, we'll do it. 435 00:21:42,267 --> 00:21:44,997 I would've come from... I don't know. 436 00:21:45,037 --> 00:21:46,061 If I had been at the South Pole, 437 00:21:46,104 --> 00:21:49,096 I'd find a way to get back here for this. 438 00:21:54,813 --> 00:21:56,474 Someone, I don't remember who, 439 00:21:56,515 --> 00:21:59,211 wrote an article about us and they said 440 00:21:59,251 --> 00:22:01,776 that students entering the Kashmere band room 441 00:22:01,820 --> 00:22:05,153 enter it like they're coming into a cathedral or a temple. 442 00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:09,590 Oh, hey, everybody. 443 00:22:09,628 --> 00:22:11,357 What's going on? What's going on? 444 00:22:11,396 --> 00:22:13,956 Walking in that band room with my saxophone 445 00:22:13,999 --> 00:22:17,594 was like, you know, going to your grandma's house... 446 00:22:17,636 --> 00:22:19,160 and there's some food cooking. 447 00:22:19,204 --> 00:22:23,140 And the stove and the red beans and rice and cornbread. 448 00:22:23,175 --> 00:22:24,335 Oh, hey, honey bunny. 449 00:22:24,376 --> 00:22:25,468 Good to see you. 450 00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:27,102 Oh we growed up together, didn't we, girl? 451 00:22:27,145 --> 00:22:28,237 Yes. Yes, we did. 452 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,269 We started... 453 00:22:30,415 --> 00:22:35,079 When I entered that room for the first time after all these years, 454 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,314 it's very moving. 455 00:22:36,355 --> 00:22:37,322 Mr. Middleton! 456 00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:38,323 It's very moving. 457 00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:40,416 Whoa, oh! 458 00:22:40,459 --> 00:22:41,824 No! 459 00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:49,162 Oh! Hey, man! What's up, W.L. D? 460 00:22:50,702 --> 00:22:53,671 L-I could feel my heart flutter, you know. 461 00:22:53,705 --> 00:22:55,605 What's up, man? 462 00:22:57,209 --> 00:23:01,077 And here, again, l-I had this opportunity to... 463 00:23:01,113 --> 00:23:04,241 to return, you know, and... 464 00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:08,684 Look on the top right there. 465 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,415 That's me right there. 466 00:23:10,455 --> 00:23:11,422 - On the top? - Look, one, two... 467 00:23:11,456 --> 00:23:12,423 - on the top. - Oh yeah, yeah. 468 00:23:12,457 --> 00:23:13,856 That's me, and look at Reggie. 469 00:23:13,892 --> 00:23:15,291 - Oh, you look the same. - Oh yeah. Yeah, sure. 470 00:23:15,327 --> 00:23:16,521 You walk in the band room 471 00:23:16,561 --> 00:23:19,894 and you start feeling like you're still at school. 472 00:23:19,931 --> 00:23:22,365 You just left your classroom 473 00:23:22,401 --> 00:23:24,062 and you're on your way to the band room. 474 00:23:24,102 --> 00:23:27,367 You're... It's time for band. 475 00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:28,703 What's up, man? 476 00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:30,503 Good to see ya, man. 477 00:23:31,910 --> 00:23:36,370 Walking in that band room just brings back a flood of memories. 478 00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:37,780 Looking around the room 479 00:23:37,816 --> 00:23:41,582 and... and imagining Prof being in a certain spot 480 00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:43,850 where you knew him to be. 481 00:23:43,889 --> 00:23:45,857 Imagining the band being set up. 482 00:23:45,891 --> 00:23:48,826 You're scanning all of the faces 483 00:23:48,860 --> 00:23:51,829 and the people that you were in the band with, 484 00:23:51,863 --> 00:23:54,832 where they would be sitting and just that time. 485 00:23:54,866 --> 00:23:55,924 What's up? 486 00:23:55,967 --> 00:23:57,628 It's just, um, you know, it's... 487 00:23:57,669 --> 00:23:59,933 It was a reunion of a different kind. 488 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,409 Since our drummer decided to show up... 489 00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:07,537 Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Craig Green is in the house. 490 00:24:10,916 --> 00:24:16,183 It almost felt like what I get a sense that army buddies feel, you know? 491 00:24:16,221 --> 00:24:17,449 We went through a lot together. 492 00:24:17,489 --> 00:24:18,786 Everybody come in there. 493 00:24:18,824 --> 00:24:21,384 It's like their spirit, you know, is there. 494 00:24:21,426 --> 00:24:22,791 And it's always gonna be there. 495 00:24:22,828 --> 00:24:23,852 Good to see you. 496 00:24:23,895 --> 00:24:25,021 You're looking wealthy and healthy, man. 497 00:24:25,063 --> 00:24:26,189 - Yeah, you too, bro. - All right. 498 00:24:26,231 --> 00:24:31,601 I was overwhelmed and excited because those faces were back. 499 00:24:31,636 --> 00:24:34,628 There were the guys that used to give me a hard time. 500 00:24:34,673 --> 00:24:35,935 They were men now. 501 00:24:35,974 --> 00:24:37,601 And we're grown women. 502 00:24:37,642 --> 00:24:41,237 People are grandparents now, you know, with gray hair. 503 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:44,271 You know? 50 pounds larger. 504 00:24:44,316 --> 00:24:45,943 You can't put it into words, 505 00:24:45,984 --> 00:24:49,943 but it was the most warm, the greatest feeling. 506 00:24:49,988 --> 00:24:51,580 It was the ultimate feeling. 507 00:24:51,623 --> 00:24:53,784 You knew you were gonna get back together again 508 00:24:53,825 --> 00:24:55,952 and get back on that stage. 509 00:25:01,199 --> 00:25:02,791 2, 3... 510 00:25:02,834 --> 00:25:06,292 Some of these guys hadn't played in 30 years. 511 00:25:06,338 --> 00:25:08,670 When I say 30 years, I mean 30 years. 512 00:25:08,707 --> 00:25:11,505 And you can'tjust pick up a trumpet and blow 513 00:25:11,543 --> 00:25:12,874 if you hadn't blown it. 514 00:25:12,911 --> 00:25:14,970 It's... Itjust doesn't happen. 515 00:25:24,356 --> 00:25:25,380 Little bit farther. 516 00:25:27,025 --> 00:25:29,858 I was coming out, really, just to see what was going on, 517 00:25:29,895 --> 00:25:31,089 just to... 518 00:25:31,129 --> 00:25:35,088 to watch and to reunite with some of the stage band members. 519 00:25:38,703 --> 00:25:40,295 I came in as a spectator. 520 00:25:40,338 --> 00:25:41,635 I should have known better, 521 00:25:41,673 --> 00:25:46,269 'cause anytime I hook up with Gwen, 522 00:25:46,311 --> 00:25:49,303 I end up doing something that I didn't expect. 523 00:25:49,347 --> 00:25:50,712 Everybody greeted me and they're, 524 00:25:50,749 --> 00:25:52,683 "Okay, you're gonna play your instrument?" 525 00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:54,912 No. 526 00:25:54,953 --> 00:25:58,218 I haven't blown that thing in 34 years. 527 00:25:58,256 --> 00:26:00,747 1974, graduation day. 528 00:26:00,792 --> 00:26:04,592 The rest of the guys in the band, they said, "We need our girls back. 529 00:26:04,629 --> 00:26:06,358 We need our girls in the band." 530 00:26:06,398 --> 00:26:10,198 Baba-daba-dop... Boww! 1, 2, 3, 4. 531 00:26:10,235 --> 00:26:12,203 I let them talk me into it saying, 532 00:26:12,237 --> 00:26:13,636 "You can do it. You can do it, Gwen." 533 00:26:13,672 --> 00:26:14,661 I'm like, "No, I can't." 534 00:26:14,706 --> 00:26:17,732 I have not picked up that horn since 1978. 535 00:26:17,776 --> 00:26:20,802 I thought when I took that first blow, I was gonna pass out. 536 00:26:20,845 --> 00:26:22,904 I was scared stiff. 537 00:26:25,317 --> 00:26:29,754 Everybody, heads up. Okay. Here's the deal. 538 00:26:29,788 --> 00:26:35,624 Um, we have a lot of Kashmere cats in this room that played from '72 539 00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:38,959 up into the final day of the stage band. 540 00:26:38,997 --> 00:26:41,022 You can witness that, right? 541 00:26:41,066 --> 00:26:42,397 But the first thing I wanna do, 542 00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:45,096 I wanna have Tim Thompson lead us in a prayer. 543 00:26:45,136 --> 00:26:46,933 Reverend Timothy Thompson. 544 00:26:46,972 --> 00:26:47,939 Oh, yeah. 545 00:26:47,973 --> 00:26:48,940 Let's just pray. 546 00:26:48,974 --> 00:26:50,305 Kind Heavenly Father, 547 00:26:50,342 --> 00:26:52,367 we thank you for this occasion. 548 00:26:52,410 --> 00:26:55,504 Now we ask that you would endow us with memory 549 00:26:55,547 --> 00:26:58,107 that we can remember how it used to be 550 00:26:58,149 --> 00:27:01,949 and that the ultimate event will be a blessing to everyone. 551 00:27:01,987 --> 00:27:03,784 1, 2, 3. Take it! 552 00:27:09,427 --> 00:27:10,621 Whoa! 553 00:27:10,662 --> 00:27:11,959 Baba-daba-dop, boww! 554 00:27:12,764 --> 00:27:14,129 Na-na-na Na-na. 555 00:27:20,271 --> 00:27:21,795 One and uh... 556 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,741 Yeah! One, uh! 557 00:27:24,776 --> 00:27:26,107 I'm kinda like a perfectionist, 558 00:27:26,144 --> 00:27:29,545 so of course I'm gonna let people know, 559 00:27:29,581 --> 00:27:31,845 when it's not right, it's not right. 560 00:27:31,883 --> 00:27:34,351 And I can understand that you hadn't played in 30 years, 561 00:27:34,386 --> 00:27:36,616 but I can't take it as an excuse now 562 00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:37,917 because you're here. 563 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:43,725 Hey! More, one! 564 00:27:43,762 --> 00:27:45,252 Ah! Ba, ba-ba, ba! 565 00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:53,660 Pick it up! 566 00:27:53,705 --> 00:27:57,163 Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. 567 00:27:57,208 --> 00:27:59,768 Ba-da-bomp! It's on you. 568 00:27:59,811 --> 00:28:03,110 When we played, you know, it's like okay, 569 00:28:03,148 --> 00:28:05,844 but we got a long way to go. 570 00:28:09,654 --> 00:28:13,351 We're not hittin' right because, you know, we haven't played in a long time. 571 00:28:13,391 --> 00:28:14,756 I'm laughing because... 572 00:28:14,793 --> 00:28:16,590 I thought we were really doing it, 573 00:28:16,628 --> 00:28:19,096 but, really, we sounded terrible. 574 00:28:27,572 --> 00:28:29,130 Everything start rushing back. 575 00:28:29,174 --> 00:28:31,734 All those feelings, your mind start racing 576 00:28:31,776 --> 00:28:34,176 and you start seeing different scenarios 577 00:28:34,212 --> 00:28:36,612 of your high school days in the band room. 578 00:28:38,083 --> 00:28:40,517 You could see it. You play a certain melody, 579 00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:42,679 I remember I was sitting over there at that time. 580 00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:45,121 Or I remember he had this big afro, 581 00:28:45,156 --> 00:28:47,784 and he couldn't see because it would flop over in his face. 582 00:28:47,826 --> 00:28:49,885 Oh, I remember listening to this at home. 583 00:28:49,928 --> 00:28:52,055 I mean, this was the '70s. 584 00:28:52,097 --> 00:28:56,193 We were just coming out of the civil rights movement 585 00:28:56,234 --> 00:28:58,202 and so there was a lot of pride. 586 00:28:58,236 --> 00:29:01,603 Um, there were a lot of good things going on. 587 00:29:01,639 --> 00:29:05,598 Our parents had fought long and hard, 588 00:29:05,643 --> 00:29:09,306 and it was time for us to shine. 589 00:29:09,347 --> 00:29:12,339 We had more freedom than they did. 590 00:29:12,383 --> 00:29:14,248 We had more opportunities. 591 00:29:14,285 --> 00:29:17,880 They just had to be pushed back to the side with their talents. 592 00:29:17,922 --> 00:29:21,551 But in the '70s, we were able to bring it out. 593 00:29:21,593 --> 00:29:23,390 It was just an incredible time. 594 00:29:23,428 --> 00:29:25,123 There was just so much hope. 595 00:29:25,163 --> 00:29:28,155 For me, everything was open, 596 00:29:28,199 --> 00:29:30,167 this open feeling that I had 597 00:29:30,201 --> 00:29:32,829 that so much was gonna be possible. 598 00:29:32,871 --> 00:29:35,601 The focus was on moving forward. 599 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,164 Get your education. 600 00:29:37,208 --> 00:29:39,073 There's nothing that you can't do. 601 00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:41,408 You've seen what has happened in the past. 602 00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:42,970 Now, you take what has happened 603 00:29:43,014 --> 00:29:45,244 and take it, and you move forward. 604 00:29:45,283 --> 00:29:47,843 But there was also the war in Vietnam, 605 00:29:47,886 --> 00:29:50,684 so there was a lot of fear and a lot of trepidation 606 00:29:50,722 --> 00:29:52,952 about political issues. 607 00:29:52,991 --> 00:29:55,016 There was a lot of unknowns 608 00:29:55,059 --> 00:29:58,187 and we were just the young people growing up 609 00:29:58,229 --> 00:30:00,197 just trying to find our way. 610 00:30:00,231 --> 00:30:02,199 - I am... - I am... 611 00:30:02,233 --> 00:30:04,030 ...somebody! ...somebody! 612 00:30:04,068 --> 00:30:07,936 You had people mostly into the Black Power movement during that time. 613 00:30:07,972 --> 00:30:09,701 You know, everybody stuck together. 614 00:30:09,741 --> 00:30:11,265 You know, you at a black school, 615 00:30:11,309 --> 00:30:14,107 so when you came to Kashmere, you already knew. 616 00:30:14,145 --> 00:30:16,113 The way you moved, the way you danced, 617 00:30:16,147 --> 00:30:18,980 it had to be black. 618 00:30:19,017 --> 00:30:21,986 It was sexy. It was afros. 619 00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:25,319 It was girls, girls, girls. 620 00:30:25,356 --> 00:30:27,790 And they were everywhere. 621 00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:28,918 Every time you looked around, 622 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,894 there was a guy walking in with a trench coat... 623 00:30:31,930 --> 00:30:33,329 with his hat to the side... 624 00:30:34,632 --> 00:30:35,894 sun shades... 625 00:30:37,202 --> 00:30:39,170 big afro with blow-out kit. 626 00:30:39,204 --> 00:30:40,432 Super Fly. 627 00:30:40,471 --> 00:30:42,939 The Super Fly movie took over Kashmere. 628 00:30:42,974 --> 00:30:44,464 It was platform shoes... 629 00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:46,136 where you were way up in the air. 630 00:30:46,177 --> 00:30:47,474 It was pleated shirts... 631 00:30:47,512 --> 00:30:50,276 and the big butterfly bowties. Oh. 632 00:30:50,315 --> 00:30:52,442 Afros, after a while went back. 633 00:30:52,483 --> 00:30:56,419 They started combing the afro back and doing what you call the "duck tail." 634 00:30:56,454 --> 00:30:57,751 Make sure you had your little... 635 00:30:57,789 --> 00:31:01,384 I called it herbs and berries... where your hair would shine. 636 00:31:01,426 --> 00:31:03,758 Girls, we come up there with the miniskirts on. 637 00:31:03,795 --> 00:31:05,592 Yeah, some took it to another level. 638 00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:06,426 It was bell bottoms. 639 00:31:06,464 --> 00:31:07,453 Leisure suits. 640 00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:09,489 Then it was "tight was right." 641 00:31:10,568 --> 00:31:12,502 Man, there was not a cat 642 00:31:12,537 --> 00:31:14,596 that drove a car to Kashmere High School 643 00:31:14,639 --> 00:31:16,504 that did not have his windows down 644 00:31:16,541 --> 00:31:19,374 pumping an eight-track of God-only-knows 645 00:31:19,410 --> 00:31:20,570 that pleased him at that moment. 646 00:31:20,612 --> 00:31:21,977 It started with James Brown. 647 00:31:22,013 --> 00:31:24,140 - James Brown. - James Brown... 648 00:31:24,182 --> 00:31:25,911 was totally doin' it for me. 649 00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:27,110 Earth Wind and Fire. 650 00:31:27,151 --> 00:31:28,914 Earth Wind and Fire. They were hot. 651 00:31:28,953 --> 00:31:30,978 - The Bar-kays. - The Bar-kays. 652 00:31:31,022 --> 00:31:32,421 Parliament Funkadelic. 653 00:31:32,457 --> 00:31:33,549 George Clinton. 654 00:31:33,591 --> 00:31:34,853 Oh, man, don't forget about George Clinton. 655 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:35,860 Bootsy Collins. 656 00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:37,020 The Commodores. 657 00:31:37,061 --> 00:31:38,119 Kool and the Gang. 658 00:31:38,162 --> 00:31:39,686 Sly and the Family Stone. 659 00:31:39,731 --> 00:31:41,790 The Funk. You know you got to have the funk, man. 660 00:31:41,833 --> 00:31:44,358 With all that funk, man, it was so nasty. 661 00:31:46,170 --> 00:31:48,001 All the music was good to me back then. 662 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:51,031 'Cause those were real musicians that was playing the music. 663 00:31:51,075 --> 00:31:54,306 But the benefit, the benefit, we got all that. 664 00:31:58,016 --> 00:32:02,544 These kids were hearing sounds that I know I didn't hear as a kid. 665 00:32:02,587 --> 00:32:06,717 At the time that Prof introduced the band to contests... 666 00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:11,286 the other bands were all playing similar songs... 667 00:32:13,464 --> 00:32:15,091 ...Tommy Dorsey or Duke Ellington or Count Basie, 668 00:32:15,133 --> 00:32:18,591 and they're playing, you know, like, One O'Clock Jump. 669 00:32:18,636 --> 00:32:23,733 When we first got into the music, we was playing tunes like Summertime. 670 00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:26,243 It was a good tune. It's a good tune, 671 00:32:26,277 --> 00:32:27,710 but it's... it's... it's a ballad. 672 00:32:27,745 --> 00:32:29,269 Well, we was kinda bored with the music, 673 00:32:29,314 --> 00:32:30,838 but we wanted to play. 674 00:32:30,882 --> 00:32:33,112 Hey, man, Prof knew it was a time for change, 675 00:32:33,151 --> 00:32:36,348 and he had these kids in the band that had all this high energy. 676 00:32:36,387 --> 00:32:38,514 You know, they wanted to play funk. 677 00:32:38,556 --> 00:32:41,184 Because after rehearsal was over, you know, everybody go... 678 00:32:41,225 --> 00:32:43,420 you know, the drummer start putting the beat down, 679 00:32:43,461 --> 00:32:46,362 guitar players start playing and then Prof sit there... 680 00:32:46,397 --> 00:32:47,955 He... No, man. These guys... 681 00:32:47,999 --> 00:32:49,523 Then he started changing his music. 682 00:32:49,567 --> 00:32:51,626 So he started adding this funk into it. 683 00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:54,103 He actually took the jazz, 684 00:32:54,138 --> 00:32:56,163 'cause that was our base, that was our foundation, 685 00:32:56,207 --> 00:32:59,836 and he added funk to the jazz, okay? 686 00:32:59,877 --> 00:33:02,072 And he wrote that way. 687 00:33:02,113 --> 00:33:03,546 Man, hey, don't die and go to heaven 688 00:33:03,581 --> 00:33:06,072 until you hear this song called Head Wiggle. 689 00:33:06,117 --> 00:33:07,948 Oh, man, you talk about a good song. 690 00:33:17,695 --> 00:33:22,860 I try to give them a chance to express themselves 691 00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:24,731 in the way that they are. 692 00:33:24,769 --> 00:33:29,103 I had to teach them how to play funk. 693 00:33:35,313 --> 00:33:36,302 You could just hear the difference. You... 694 00:33:36,347 --> 00:33:38,110 It wasn'tjust playing. 695 00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:40,982 It was what you put into it. 696 00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:43,749 His music was, uh, soulful... 697 00:33:43,788 --> 00:33:44,755 funky, if you want to say that. 698 00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:46,484 And he was the first to get there with it 699 00:33:46,524 --> 00:33:48,151 and he did it better than anyone else 700 00:33:48,192 --> 00:33:50,524 because his students grew up listening to that, 701 00:33:50,561 --> 00:33:51,789 and... and they loved it. 702 00:33:51,829 --> 00:33:53,023 He was like the Pied Piper. 703 00:33:53,064 --> 00:33:55,328 When we did, uh, a song by Sly Stone, 704 00:33:55,366 --> 00:33:56,890 he actually took the song 705 00:33:56,934 --> 00:33:59,960 and kept some of the foundation so you knew it was the song, 706 00:34:00,004 --> 00:34:01,562 but when he put the horns against it... 707 00:34:03,007 --> 00:34:06,135 it's kind of like having a Ritz cracker and a saltine cracker. 708 00:34:06,177 --> 00:34:08,270 You put a saltine cracker in your mouth, and you say, 709 00:34:08,312 --> 00:34:09,870 "Yeah, man, that's cool, that's cool." 710 00:34:09,914 --> 00:34:11,541 But somebody turns you on to a Ritz cracker, 711 00:34:11,582 --> 00:34:13,516 it's like, "Oh, man!" 712 00:34:13,551 --> 00:34:15,519 All the other bands, they were just, uh, 713 00:34:15,553 --> 00:34:18,852 "Wow! What's them guys playin', man?" 714 00:34:18,890 --> 00:34:22,223 Sometimes it seemed like it would hitjust so hard. 715 00:34:22,260 --> 00:34:24,558 It would just get really, really intense, 716 00:34:24,595 --> 00:34:26,756 and that's when, like, it would even scare me. 717 00:34:26,798 --> 00:34:29,392 I was like, oh! 718 00:34:29,434 --> 00:34:33,063 And it would just go like a... like a... 719 00:34:33,104 --> 00:34:34,628 a train. 720 00:34:34,672 --> 00:34:37,539 He knew that if he just let them go wild 721 00:34:37,575 --> 00:34:40,237 and he let them go off and do their thing, 722 00:34:40,278 --> 00:34:41,939 it was going to... 723 00:34:41,979 --> 00:34:43,378 kill everybody in the competition 724 00:34:43,414 --> 00:34:46,178 because it was so out of left field. 725 00:34:48,553 --> 00:34:50,111 They were extremely expressive. 726 00:34:50,154 --> 00:34:53,089 When the Kashmere came on and all hell broke loose, 727 00:34:53,124 --> 00:34:57,857 why, I mean, it, you know, it was, "Yeah, all right!" 728 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,502 Oh... yeah! 729 00:35:11,542 --> 00:35:13,510 You know that's... that's a feeling you get 730 00:35:13,544 --> 00:35:16,104 from the audience. 731 00:35:16,147 --> 00:35:18,877 Oh... 732 00:35:18,916 --> 00:35:19,905 Yeah! 733 00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:26,412 I felt like the music wasn't enough. 734 00:35:26,457 --> 00:35:28,948 Because there was people who would listen to the band 735 00:35:28,993 --> 00:35:31,359 who were not musicians. 736 00:35:31,395 --> 00:35:33,886 It wasn't enough. 737 00:35:33,931 --> 00:35:36,559 So I put the show into it, 738 00:35:36,601 --> 00:35:38,432 and no one had thought to do that. 739 00:35:38,469 --> 00:35:40,960 When we came on the scene and we started dancing, 740 00:35:41,005 --> 00:35:43,064 that what drove the judges wild. 741 00:35:43,107 --> 00:35:44,665 Itjust drove the judges wild 742 00:35:44,709 --> 00:35:46,836 because they had never seen it before. 743 00:35:46,878 --> 00:35:48,505 Trumpet players started movin'. 744 00:35:48,546 --> 00:35:49,945 You know, they had the trumpets, 745 00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:51,243 they would turn this way, 746 00:35:51,282 --> 00:35:52,442 one would duck 747 00:35:52,483 --> 00:35:53,780 and the other one bring it across his head. 748 00:35:53,818 --> 00:35:56,048 And they did that all the way down the line. 749 00:35:56,087 --> 00:35:59,147 Then the trombone players would put their trombones up like this 750 00:35:59,190 --> 00:36:02,921 and, see, it was... it was more of a show then. 751 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,484 It was a show band. 752 00:36:04,529 --> 00:36:05,928 You know, the sax would be doing... 753 00:36:08,866 --> 00:36:11,460 You know they had these movements with the horns 754 00:36:11,502 --> 00:36:15,438 and whether they're playing the saxophone or... or what, you know, 755 00:36:15,473 --> 00:36:17,464 and it's like, goodness gracious! 756 00:36:17,508 --> 00:36:20,602 How can they do that and play at the same time? 757 00:36:20,645 --> 00:36:22,442 You know? 758 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,948 We danced while we played and we grooved. 759 00:36:24,982 --> 00:36:27,780 The other bands, they were... they were really good. 760 00:36:27,818 --> 00:36:28,750 They was technically good, 761 00:36:28,786 --> 00:36:30,583 but they didn't have the feel. 762 00:36:30,621 --> 00:36:32,646 See, they didn't have that soul. 763 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:40,153 It's easy to understand why they swept the competitions 764 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:43,361 when you listen to the recorded output of their peers. 765 00:36:43,401 --> 00:36:45,835 Conrad's band played music because it was their lives. 766 00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:48,395 Those kids lived it. 767 00:36:48,439 --> 00:36:51,499 And Conrad inspired them to put everything into it. 768 00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:53,976 Did you find the momentum picking up 769 00:36:54,011 --> 00:36:57,538 after the band got out where the general public could hear them? 770 00:36:57,582 --> 00:36:59,914 It rolled like a snowball, man. 771 00:37:14,999 --> 00:37:16,466 Winning just gave us a sense 772 00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:18,525 that we were invincible when it came to competition. 773 00:37:18,569 --> 00:37:20,594 We were feared. We were a challenge. 774 00:37:20,638 --> 00:37:21,866 They were just good. 775 00:37:21,906 --> 00:37:24,170 Not good as in mmm-mmm good. 776 00:37:24,208 --> 00:37:26,574 Good as in God created the world to be good. 777 00:37:26,611 --> 00:37:27,873 They were that kind of good. 778 00:37:42,460 --> 00:37:44,655 Okay, in 1972, 779 00:37:44,695 --> 00:37:52,830 I had no idea of the magnitude of what was about to happen. 780 00:37:54,939 --> 00:37:57,134 Uh, we was in Mobile, Alabama. 781 00:37:57,174 --> 00:38:00,507 We went up there for the stage band competition. 782 00:38:00,544 --> 00:38:01,909 You know how kids are. We're going to Alabama. 783 00:38:01,946 --> 00:38:04,642 You gotta watch out for, you know, the KKK, 784 00:38:04,682 --> 00:38:07,014 and it was... it was all freaked out back then. 785 00:38:07,051 --> 00:38:11,317 George Wallace was the... the governor at the time. 786 00:38:11,355 --> 00:38:13,915 And I say segregation now, 787 00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:16,017 segregation tomorrow, 788 00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:19,223 and segregation forever. 789 00:38:19,263 --> 00:38:22,357 We had heard that statement that George Wallace had made, man, 790 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,733 and everybody was a little, "Hey, man, I don't know about here." 791 00:38:28,372 --> 00:38:31,603 Jazz is alive and well and living in high school. 792 00:38:31,642 --> 00:38:35,078 Dozens of high school jazz bands from across the country auditioned 793 00:38:35,112 --> 00:38:38,377 to be part of the American High School Jazz Festival, 794 00:38:38,416 --> 00:38:40,475 but only five were chosen. 795 00:38:40,518 --> 00:38:44,010 And those five were as varied and unique as jazz itself. 796 00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:49,191 The Mobile Jazz Festival had that national reputation. 797 00:38:49,226 --> 00:38:50,557 It was like a national playoff. 798 00:38:50,594 --> 00:38:54,291 And it's probably, to this day, still the most prestigious. 799 00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:56,163 The bands who we would invite would come to Mobile 800 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:03,106 to be selected the best high school stage band in the country. 801 00:39:04,909 --> 00:39:06,137 We're the only black band. 802 00:39:06,177 --> 00:39:07,474 We're going on last, 803 00:39:07,511 --> 00:39:10,480 and, you know, this is the big one. 804 00:39:10,514 --> 00:39:12,675 You talk about about 30 guys... black guys... 805 00:39:12,717 --> 00:39:15,413 walking in with white shirts and black suits, 806 00:39:15,453 --> 00:39:17,080 it's gonna turn some heads. 807 00:39:17,121 --> 00:39:18,349 From Houston, Texas, 808 00:39:18,389 --> 00:39:20,289 the Kashmere High School Stage Band 809 00:39:20,324 --> 00:39:22,292 under the direction of Mr. Conrad Johnson. 810 00:39:23,928 --> 00:39:25,725 1, 2, 3... 811 00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:40,344 They were like on fire. 812 00:39:42,012 --> 00:39:46,972 I think it surprised a lot of people hearing a bunch of teenagers play like that. 813 00:39:47,017 --> 00:39:50,145 To be as young as they were, they were one. 814 00:39:50,187 --> 00:39:52,246 They were a band. 815 00:40:00,164 --> 00:40:01,756 They didn't have something to prove, 816 00:40:01,799 --> 00:40:04,632 but they wanted to prove something. 817 00:40:09,106 --> 00:40:10,698 When we're getting down to the finish 818 00:40:10,741 --> 00:40:12,834 and, uh, there seemed to be 819 00:40:12,877 --> 00:40:15,345 having some problems with the judges... 820 00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:20,817 The Judges went back in the green room and they said, we're just at an impasse. 821 00:40:20,851 --> 00:40:23,945 The two bands that performed in the final concert tonight 822 00:40:23,988 --> 00:40:25,580 were equally as good 823 00:40:25,623 --> 00:40:28,251 and we would like... 824 00:40:28,292 --> 00:40:31,989 to give 'em each a first place trophy. 825 00:40:32,029 --> 00:40:35,362 Prof didn't like this at all. Just be fair about it. 826 00:40:35,399 --> 00:40:38,391 He said, "I don't care who you give it to. Just give it to somebody." 827 00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:40,870 And then, you know, then we'll go. 828 00:40:40,905 --> 00:40:43,066 It took so long for them to decide, 829 00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:49,876 it actually shook my faith at that time. 830 00:40:49,914 --> 00:40:52,041 It sure did. 831 00:40:52,082 --> 00:40:59,250 And I remember the man's voice, and he said, "The winner is..." 832 00:40:59,290 --> 00:41:01,417 and he said... 833 00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:02,483 Kashmere. 834 00:41:02,526 --> 00:41:03,720 Like that. 835 00:41:03,761 --> 00:41:05,160 It wasn't like, Kashmere! 836 00:41:05,196 --> 00:41:07,027 It was like, Kashmere. 837 00:41:08,766 --> 00:41:10,028 And we just... 838 00:41:11,769 --> 00:41:12,793 We went ballistic. 839 00:41:13,904 --> 00:41:16,031 I think Prof cried. Prof cried. 840 00:41:16,073 --> 00:41:20,237 After 20 minutes of that, Prof was, "Hey, man, let's everybody start packing this stuff. 841 00:41:20,277 --> 00:41:22,939 Let-let's put it on the bus. We gotta get back home now." 842 00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:24,948 But we hurried up and got out of there. 843 00:41:24,982 --> 00:41:28,577 That basically was the end of competition... 844 00:41:28,619 --> 00:41:29,779 in our festival. 845 00:41:31,322 --> 00:41:33,290 When the 1972 band, 846 00:41:33,324 --> 00:41:34,882 when they won that national championship, 847 00:41:34,925 --> 00:41:37,894 that kind of put Kashmere on the map. 848 00:41:37,928 --> 00:41:40,863 How many high schools have their own theme song 849 00:41:40,898 --> 00:41:42,889 that they can play in a jazz competition? 850 00:41:42,933 --> 00:41:44,423 And Prof wrote these songs. 851 00:41:44,468 --> 00:41:47,631 That's-that's what did it for us. 852 00:41:47,671 --> 00:41:50,902 People just wanted to be in that winning atmosphere. 853 00:41:50,941 --> 00:41:53,637 Everybody tried to be the best they could be. 854 00:41:53,677 --> 00:41:55,269 The football team started doing very well. 855 00:41:55,312 --> 00:41:57,143 The debate team, they were winning. 856 00:41:57,181 --> 00:41:59,115 The drama department started doing well. 857 00:41:59,149 --> 00:42:00,946 The track team, they were winning. 858 00:42:00,985 --> 00:42:02,782 And ROTC was top. 859 00:42:02,820 --> 00:42:04,651 Ourjunior and senior year in high school, 860 00:42:04,688 --> 00:42:07,122 our basketball team won the state championship. 861 00:42:07,157 --> 00:42:09,489 It's a big thing in the state of Texas. 862 00:42:10,961 --> 00:42:14,260 One year that ROTC, the band, 863 00:42:14,298 --> 00:42:16,766 the football team, the basketball team, 864 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,268 all going to state and winning. 865 00:42:19,303 --> 00:42:21,533 Even our grades. In 1975, 866 00:42:21,572 --> 00:42:24,632 we had more scholarships offered to students of Kashmere 867 00:42:24,675 --> 00:42:27,041 than any other high school in the city of Houston. 868 00:42:27,077 --> 00:42:29,272 And in the midst of all of those winners, 869 00:42:29,313 --> 00:42:31,838 you had the Kashmere Stage Band. 870 00:42:31,882 --> 00:42:35,181 We was the bomb. We was the bomb. 871 00:42:35,219 --> 00:42:40,623 The Kashmere Stage Band gave the community part of its identity. 872 00:42:40,658 --> 00:42:44,958 It... it was just a source of pride for the school and the community. 873 00:42:44,995 --> 00:42:48,692 Your ultimate highlight had to be going to Europe 874 00:42:48,732 --> 00:42:50,029 to play in the festival over there. 875 00:42:50,067 --> 00:42:51,034 True. 876 00:42:51,068 --> 00:42:52,228 We traveled around the state. 877 00:42:52,269 --> 00:42:54,203 We traveled a few places throughout the country, 878 00:42:54,238 --> 00:42:57,867 but to go all the way to Europe just to play, 879 00:42:57,908 --> 00:43:02,709 especially for a black school. 880 00:43:02,746 --> 00:43:04,008 Just unheard of. 881 00:43:04,048 --> 00:43:07,313 Only thing we knew about Europe was across the water. 882 00:43:07,351 --> 00:43:12,186 To raise as much as $35,000 or $40,000 was a pretty big task, 883 00:43:12,222 --> 00:43:13,587 and I was quite hesitant. 884 00:43:13,624 --> 00:43:16,718 We had to literally get out on the street 885 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,320 and ask for donations. We panhandled. 886 00:43:19,363 --> 00:43:21,490 Everybody in the community came together. 887 00:43:21,532 --> 00:43:23,557 The southwest side, the north side, 888 00:43:23,601 --> 00:43:24,932 the east side and the west side. 889 00:43:24,969 --> 00:43:26,698 All the blacks came together. 890 00:43:26,737 --> 00:43:29,968 And in a time when blacks did not come together for anything, 891 00:43:30,007 --> 00:43:33,238 they united for the Kashmere Stage Band. 892 00:43:33,277 --> 00:43:36,644 It got to the point where we were about $10,000 short. 893 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,081 Financial crisis faced the All American Kashmere Stage Band. 894 00:43:40,117 --> 00:43:43,553 They were short of money. Then the governor took the stand. 895 00:43:43,587 --> 00:43:45,885 We believe in each of you. 896 00:43:45,923 --> 00:43:47,288 We're proud of each of you. 897 00:43:47,324 --> 00:43:51,317 I'm very proud, too, that each of you will be 898 00:43:51,362 --> 00:43:54,525 an ambassador of goodwill from Texas. 899 00:43:54,565 --> 00:43:55,532 And I know... 900 00:43:58,636 --> 00:44:00,866 It's my privilege to present to you 901 00:44:00,904 --> 00:44:04,032 this check for $10,000 to help pay... 902 00:44:10,648 --> 00:44:13,674 At a time where there was still the saying 903 00:44:13,717 --> 00:44:15,412 that black kids couldn't learn, 904 00:44:15,452 --> 00:44:18,046 black kids were inferior, they were violent, 905 00:44:18,088 --> 00:44:22,388 but the Kashmere Stage Band was our representative. 906 00:44:23,594 --> 00:44:27,792 To perform in a European city 907 00:44:27,831 --> 00:44:31,426 is a little different from performing here in America. 908 00:44:31,468 --> 00:44:36,701 You are considered an artist rather than just a musician 909 00:44:36,740 --> 00:44:40,301 when you perform exceptionally well, 910 00:44:40,344 --> 00:44:43,780 and this is the way we were treated. 911 00:44:43,814 --> 00:44:45,805 I mean they made us feel like movie stars. 912 00:44:47,818 --> 00:44:50,150 We was on top of the world and didn't know it. 913 00:44:50,187 --> 00:44:51,518 We was talking to girls, 914 00:44:51,555 --> 00:44:53,523 we couldn't even understand what they were saying. 915 00:44:53,557 --> 00:44:55,320 They just wanted to hang out with us. 916 00:44:57,995 --> 00:44:59,929 And then in 1974, when Prof comes in 917 00:44:59,963 --> 00:45:03,364 and says, "Look, guys, we've been invited to travel to Japan." 918 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:04,628 Japan. 919 00:45:04,668 --> 00:45:06,761 These guys got a chance to tour Japan. 920 00:45:08,906 --> 00:45:10,339 And the winning never stopped. 921 00:45:10,374 --> 00:45:13,275 It went on all the way up to 1977. 922 00:45:13,310 --> 00:45:17,041 We were invited to the Reno Jazz Festival 923 00:45:17,081 --> 00:45:20,812 where we were competing against all the top bands across the nation. 924 00:45:20,851 --> 00:45:23,786 And won the most outstanding band in the nation again. 925 00:45:25,789 --> 00:45:30,726 We were all on radio. We were on television. 926 00:45:30,761 --> 00:45:32,490 The Kashmere High School Stage Band. 927 00:45:32,529 --> 00:45:34,520 We were like, uh, Hollywood. 928 00:45:36,867 --> 00:45:39,665 I'm Eothen Alapatt, General Manager of Stones Throw Records 929 00:45:39,703 --> 00:45:40,897 here in Los Angeles. 930 00:45:40,938 --> 00:45:44,101 I'm also the founder of Now Again Records, 931 00:45:44,141 --> 00:45:45,870 the reissue company that I started 932 00:45:45,909 --> 00:45:50,369 to archive music that was recorded between, you know, '67 and '76, 933 00:45:50,414 --> 00:45:53,815 kind of, like, the prime of the funk era. 934 00:45:53,851 --> 00:45:56,820 You can see all the pictures of the Kashmere Stage Band in there. 935 00:45:56,854 --> 00:45:58,378 It's one of my favorites right there. 936 00:45:58,422 --> 00:46:01,016 Conrad believed there was no reason 937 00:46:01,058 --> 00:46:07,520 why a kid couldn't record and release music as good as professionals. 938 00:46:07,564 --> 00:46:14,231 It was just an abstract goal of committing to record incredible music by 16-year-olds 939 00:46:14,271 --> 00:46:15,795 even if it was only for, you know, 940 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:18,330 the people in the immediate community to listen to. 941 00:46:18,375 --> 00:46:21,469 Itjust so happens that it's now spread all over the world. 942 00:46:25,682 --> 00:46:28,708 My name is Josh Davis. Uh, my DJ name is Shadow. 943 00:46:28,752 --> 00:46:31,949 The first time I heard Kashmere's music 944 00:46:31,989 --> 00:46:34,617 was actually on a tape compilation 945 00:46:34,658 --> 00:46:37,821 from a guy who sold funk records in London. 946 00:46:37,861 --> 00:46:39,726 Itjust said Cash Register. 947 00:46:42,633 --> 00:46:45,830 You know, to me it was, like, yeah, this is the type of groove I like. 948 00:46:45,869 --> 00:46:47,769 It was rugged, you know. 949 00:46:47,805 --> 00:46:49,295 I just thought it was a funk band. 950 00:46:49,339 --> 00:46:51,239 Never in a million years would I have assumed 951 00:46:51,275 --> 00:46:53,368 that they were just music students. 952 00:47:03,754 --> 00:47:07,622 I had wanted to flip the drum break on the song Kashmere. 953 00:47:09,459 --> 00:47:12,519 I just always liked the syncopation of it. 954 00:47:12,563 --> 00:47:14,724 People who sample records only sample something 955 00:47:14,765 --> 00:47:16,630 they think is like a little moment of brilliance. 956 00:47:17,935 --> 00:47:20,927 Something that they feel like is going to speak 957 00:47:20,971 --> 00:47:23,098 to a new generation of people. 958 00:47:26,176 --> 00:47:29,009 I've been buying high school band albums 959 00:47:29,046 --> 00:47:31,071 whenever I found them, 960 00:47:31,114 --> 00:47:32,775 from all over the United States, 961 00:47:32,816 --> 00:47:38,413 and 99 out of 100 were just awful. 962 00:47:38,455 --> 00:47:42,016 So the fact that I'd heard funk music this good 963 00:47:42,059 --> 00:47:45,028 by a high school band, you know, just blew me away. 964 00:47:45,062 --> 00:47:47,030 Well, I had to know everything about the band 965 00:47:47,064 --> 00:47:48,861 and eventually someone told me, like, 966 00:47:48,899 --> 00:47:52,062 "Well, why don't you contact, you know, Conrad?" 967 00:47:52,102 --> 00:47:56,539 So we flew down to Texas and we pulled all of it out 968 00:47:56,573 --> 00:47:58,234 and we started going through and everything, 969 00:47:58,275 --> 00:48:00,937 and Conrad had told us over and over again, 970 00:48:00,978 --> 00:48:03,276 "The records were just a facsimile. 971 00:48:03,313 --> 00:48:07,044 The magnificence of my band was in the live performance." 972 00:48:07,084 --> 00:48:09,052 They were recorded pretty good, weren't they? 973 00:48:09,086 --> 00:48:10,713 Yeah, the recordings are very nice. 974 00:48:10,754 --> 00:48:13,120 From Houston, Texas, the Kashmere High School Stage Band 975 00:48:13,156 --> 00:48:15,624 under the direction of Conrad Johnson. 976 00:48:29,406 --> 00:48:32,466 The live performances of the band were what killed us. 977 00:48:32,509 --> 00:48:35,478 They were just unbelievable. 978 00:48:35,512 --> 00:48:37,673 Talked Conrad into doing a double disc set. 979 00:48:37,714 --> 00:48:42,913 One, the studio recordings; two, the live recordings... 980 00:48:42,953 --> 00:48:45,148 all funk, no filler. 981 00:48:45,188 --> 00:48:47,520 We called it Texas Thunder Soul. 982 00:48:47,557 --> 00:48:49,889 Whose idea was it to actually do the funk song? 983 00:48:49,927 --> 00:48:51,394 - Me. - It was. 984 00:48:51,428 --> 00:48:54,192 I mean, look, it's just what goes around comes around. 985 00:48:55,565 --> 00:48:58,762 We all thought that they were gonna get a couple thousand pieces out there 986 00:48:58,802 --> 00:49:00,326 and maybe we'd break even, 987 00:49:00,370 --> 00:49:04,170 and it was incredible to see the response. 988 00:49:04,207 --> 00:49:08,769 It was, like, the middle-aged white people all over the country 989 00:49:08,812 --> 00:49:11,372 all of a sudden went out and started buying this CD. 990 00:49:11,415 --> 00:49:12,177 Oh, that's a bad one right there. 991 00:49:12,215 --> 00:49:13,546 - You like that? - Oh, man. 992 00:49:13,583 --> 00:49:16,575 And I called up Conrad and I was like, "You're not gonna believe this, 993 00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:20,317 but we went from being, like, number 3,000-something 994 00:49:20,357 --> 00:49:24,259 on Amazon's top sellers list to being number 3." 995 00:49:24,294 --> 00:49:26,319 And we stayed up there for an entire weekend, 996 00:49:26,363 --> 00:49:29,526 with this band, you know, that hadn't recorded anything, 997 00:49:29,566 --> 00:49:31,591 you know, in over 25 years. 998 00:49:31,635 --> 00:49:34,468 So you were listening to James Brown and all that stuff? 999 00:49:34,504 --> 00:49:35,835 Yeah, we did. 1000 00:49:35,872 --> 00:49:37,464 We got one of those of James Brown on there. 1001 00:49:37,507 --> 00:49:39,532 What amazes me is that when you were doing all this stuff 1002 00:49:39,576 --> 00:49:41,601 you were already 55 years old, you know? 1003 00:49:41,645 --> 00:49:42,907 Yeah, I was. 1004 00:49:53,657 --> 00:49:56,217 I would see Prof come in the band room that year, 1005 00:49:56,259 --> 00:49:59,786 in '77, '78, and his head would be down 1006 00:49:59,830 --> 00:50:04,096 and he was not as happy as he used to be. 1007 00:50:04,134 --> 00:50:08,594 As a matter of fact, that year we got a new principal 1008 00:50:08,638 --> 00:50:12,836 and he didn't understand the traditions of the Kashmere Stage Band. 1009 00:50:12,876 --> 00:50:15,208 As a matter of fact, he didn't care about the traditions 1010 00:50:15,245 --> 00:50:16,644 of the Kashmere Stage Band. 1011 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,447 Envy set in from the school board that, "What is this guy doing?" 1012 00:50:21,485 --> 00:50:23,510 You know, uh, "Why is he doing this?" 1013 00:50:23,553 --> 00:50:25,043 "Why is he traveling over to Europe?" 1014 00:50:25,088 --> 00:50:26,749 "Where is all the money going?" 1015 00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:30,248 Everything is political, even the school district. 1016 00:50:30,293 --> 00:50:31,726 It's a political move. 1017 00:50:31,762 --> 00:50:34,731 Too many accolades going to a little black man 1018 00:50:34,765 --> 00:50:36,733 on that side of town. 1019 00:50:36,767 --> 00:50:38,530 He had people that loved him, 1020 00:50:38,568 --> 00:50:41,901 but at the same time they were planning his demise. 1021 00:50:41,938 --> 00:50:44,930 We were not getting the funding or the support 1022 00:50:44,975 --> 00:50:47,466 from the administration that we used to get. 1023 00:50:47,511 --> 00:50:49,911 It was more things coming out of our pocket. 1024 00:50:51,548 --> 00:50:54,540 The principal and the administration at that time was, 1025 00:50:54,584 --> 00:50:56,347 they were really laying on him. 1026 00:50:56,386 --> 00:51:00,948 They would come down every day to harass him, literally, 1027 00:51:00,991 --> 00:51:04,358 and say things to him in front of us, 1028 00:51:04,394 --> 00:51:06,555 which was really disrespectful. 1029 00:51:06,596 --> 00:51:10,157 We saw a, uh, just a downward spiral. 1030 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,533 As a matter of fact, he didn't even tell us he was retiring. 1031 00:51:13,570 --> 00:51:16,130 That next year he just didn't come back. 1032 00:51:23,413 --> 00:51:25,779 I think any school administrator 1033 00:51:25,816 --> 00:51:29,980 that votes for taking music out of the system, 1034 00:51:30,020 --> 00:51:31,817 he ought to be fired. 1035 00:51:34,224 --> 00:51:37,318 School administrator, he ought to be fired. 1036 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,295 Don't take it out. Don't take it out. 1037 00:51:41,364 --> 00:51:42,956 Leave it there. 1038 00:51:44,301 --> 00:51:46,098 It can help those kids. 1039 00:51:50,507 --> 00:51:54,603 Even if it's... even if it's not the most top-rate. 1040 00:51:54,644 --> 00:51:59,172 Leave it there. It's an experience that he will not get otherwise in life. 1041 00:52:39,956 --> 00:52:42,789 Let's go! 1042 00:52:42,826 --> 00:52:44,851 Listen up, listen up. Hey, listen up. 1043 00:52:44,895 --> 00:52:46,419 I need the rhythm section to be... 1044 00:52:46,463 --> 00:52:47,794 I need everybody else to be quiet in here 1045 00:52:47,831 --> 00:52:49,298 so I can work on that. One. 1046 00:52:53,370 --> 00:52:55,270 Hang on a second. That's a train wreck. 1047 00:52:55,305 --> 00:52:56,272 We need to fix that. 1048 00:52:56,306 --> 00:52:58,274 I need everybody to hit that accent. 1049 00:52:58,308 --> 00:53:00,776 Craig Baldwin, that's a miracle. 1050 00:53:00,810 --> 00:53:02,505 'Cause Craig was close to being a felon. 1051 00:53:02,546 --> 00:53:04,810 I would see him walking down the street late at night 1052 00:53:04,848 --> 00:53:07,681 in the Bottom, in the bad neighborhood, 1053 00:53:07,717 --> 00:53:09,480 and I would say, "What are you doing over here?" 1054 00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:10,884 He said "I'm gonna be a great musician one day. 1055 00:53:10,921 --> 00:53:11,888 Don't worry about it." 1056 00:53:11,922 --> 00:53:14,220 Here we go. Everybody quiet up. 1057 00:53:14,257 --> 00:53:16,885 This young man was the coldest. 1058 00:53:16,927 --> 00:53:18,622 He could be brutal. 1059 00:53:18,662 --> 00:53:21,426 He would say what he had to say and he didn't care if you didn't like it. 1060 00:53:21,464 --> 00:53:22,590 He would just look at you. 1061 00:53:22,632 --> 00:53:24,429 Everybody. H, rhythm section. 1062 00:53:24,467 --> 00:53:26,094 You see Craig Baldwin up there doing that, 1063 00:53:26,136 --> 00:53:28,366 when I knew that he didn't read music 1064 00:53:28,405 --> 00:53:31,897 but he could say "Go to letter H." 1065 00:53:31,942 --> 00:53:34,376 I was like, "Awesome!" 1066 00:53:34,411 --> 00:53:37,437 He knows letter H, he studied this music. 1067 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,640 1, 2, 3, 4... 1068 00:53:38,682 --> 00:53:42,311 He stood there and said, "All right, guys, this is what we're gonna do." 1069 00:53:42,352 --> 00:53:43,785 That's the way Prof would say it. 1070 00:53:43,820 --> 00:53:45,720 He had everybody's attention 1071 00:53:45,755 --> 00:53:48,451 'cause you had people with perfect pitch sitting there. 1072 00:53:48,491 --> 00:53:50,459 You had people that were band directors sitting there. 1073 00:53:50,493 --> 00:53:52,927 You had people that were doctors and lawyers sitting there 1074 00:53:52,963 --> 00:53:55,989 but Craig was saying "All right, guys, let's do this." 1075 00:53:56,032 --> 00:53:57,966 And it was like, chh! 1076 00:54:12,582 --> 00:54:14,174 I hear somebody playin'. 1077 00:54:14,217 --> 00:54:16,685 That's an intimidating job, getting the band to hit, 1078 00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:18,449 and to hit like that, you know. 1079 00:54:18,488 --> 00:54:21,286 That's, uh, that's a big job. 1080 00:54:21,324 --> 00:54:23,724 God. I'm exhausted. 1081 00:54:24,728 --> 00:54:26,355 You see how good I had you looking? 1082 00:54:26,396 --> 00:54:28,830 - Whatever. Whatever. - I had you looking good. 1083 00:54:28,865 --> 00:54:30,127 See how good I made you look back then? 1084 00:54:30,166 --> 00:54:32,828 Baby, you know I compliment you. 1085 00:54:32,869 --> 00:54:34,837 Everything must change... 1086 00:54:34,871 --> 00:54:35,963 There you go. 1087 00:54:36,006 --> 00:54:37,564 Everything will change... 1088 00:54:37,607 --> 00:54:41,475 - Nothing stays the same... - Nothing stays the same... 1089 00:54:41,511 --> 00:54:42,478 Good night. 1090 00:54:42,512 --> 00:54:44,707 Give me a call. I love you. 1091 00:54:44,748 --> 00:54:46,272 I love you too, baby. 1092 00:54:46,316 --> 00:54:47,647 I need you to try this jacket. 1093 00:54:47,684 --> 00:54:50,585 I found my old jacket from 1974, 1094 00:54:50,620 --> 00:54:53,555 but I can't wear it, so they said, "Get Gerald to put it on." 1095 00:54:55,125 --> 00:54:56,752 I didn't think I was gonna ever see that again. 1096 00:54:56,793 --> 00:54:58,124 You kept that in mint condition, huh? 1097 00:54:58,161 --> 00:54:59,128 Yeah, man. 1098 00:54:59,162 --> 00:55:00,356 Oh, man. 1099 00:55:00,397 --> 00:55:02,729 Actually I wore... It used to be a large but... 1100 00:55:02,766 --> 00:55:03,733 It used to be... 1101 00:55:03,767 --> 00:55:06,099 I mean, that's 30 years ago, so... 1102 00:55:07,570 --> 00:55:08,594 It used to fit me like that. 1103 00:55:08,638 --> 00:55:10,936 I had mine until about the '80s. 1104 00:55:10,974 --> 00:55:16,810 You know, when I left Kashmere I didn't even weigh 100 pounds, man. 1105 00:55:16,846 --> 00:55:18,211 I got all of the... 1106 00:55:18,248 --> 00:55:19,613 Something on the back? 1107 00:55:19,649 --> 00:55:21,480 Man, on the back there's the name, man. 1108 00:55:21,518 --> 00:55:22,485 Oh, man! 1109 00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:24,419 And you were class of '73, right? 1110 00:55:57,420 --> 00:55:59,513 Here we go. Cool. Cool. 1111 00:56:02,592 --> 00:56:04,992 Right, right. Let me kiss that forehead. 1112 00:56:05,028 --> 00:56:06,461 How ya doing? 1113 00:56:06,496 --> 00:56:08,123 I'm doing fine. Craig? 1114 00:56:08,164 --> 00:56:10,325 Craig Baldwin, in your room. 1115 00:56:10,367 --> 00:56:11,925 Standing right in front of you. 1116 00:56:11,968 --> 00:56:14,596 Let me touch ya. How you doing now? 1117 00:56:14,637 --> 00:56:16,662 Well, I'll be doggone. Craig? 1118 00:56:16,706 --> 00:56:18,674 Yes, sir. 1119 00:56:18,708 --> 00:56:21,404 Yeah, he's-he-he's... he's come to see you, Prof. 1120 00:56:21,444 --> 00:56:23,207 Well, that is wonderful. 1121 00:56:23,246 --> 00:56:27,740 Yeah. But you need to tell him about what your... 1122 00:56:27,784 --> 00:56:29,775 Well, one of the reasons for being here 1123 00:56:29,819 --> 00:56:32,947 is first I had told, um, my brother here 1124 00:56:32,989 --> 00:56:34,513 'cause, you know, I'm taking brothership here 1125 00:56:34,557 --> 00:56:37,355 with the son of yours. 1126 00:56:37,394 --> 00:56:38,827 You're taking brothership. 1127 00:56:38,862 --> 00:56:39,954 Brothership. Yeah. 1128 00:56:39,996 --> 00:56:41,429 That tells me something. 1129 00:56:43,266 --> 00:56:46,030 You know, we have this program we're putting together for you 1130 00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:48,162 on the first of February. 1131 00:56:48,204 --> 00:56:51,173 We're going to play Kashmere, Zero Point, 1132 00:56:51,207 --> 00:56:54,005 Lost Love, and All Praises. 1133 00:56:55,478 --> 00:56:57,446 We have been rehearsing 'em. 1134 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,038 That's unbelievable. 1135 00:56:59,082 --> 00:57:00,845 Yeah. 1136 00:57:00,884 --> 00:57:02,852 But, I mean, but it's believable. 1137 00:57:04,421 --> 00:57:06,821 - Yeah, yeah. - Absolutely. 1138 00:57:08,625 --> 00:57:12,789 Prof, I got guys that haven't played their horns in 30 years 1139 00:57:12,829 --> 00:57:15,457 that came back to do this, uh, this deal. 1140 00:57:15,498 --> 00:57:18,194 - What? - Yeah. 30 years. 1141 00:57:18,234 --> 00:57:19,258 Those cats, can they do it? 1142 00:57:19,302 --> 00:57:22,271 Prof, you will be amazed. 1143 00:57:22,305 --> 00:57:23,795 You mean they were... 1144 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,740 Now, listen, I want you to hear what I'm saying. 1145 00:57:25,775 --> 00:57:26,799 Okay. 1146 00:57:26,843 --> 00:57:28,936 They were taught so well 1147 00:57:28,978 --> 00:57:33,415 that they can remember what they did then, and do it? 1148 00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:36,078 It's almost like you in the room, Prof. 1149 00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:37,677 I can't believe this. 1150 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,154 It's just like you're standing there. 1151 00:57:40,190 --> 00:57:41,680 Wow. 1152 00:57:41,724 --> 00:57:42,816 Mm-hmm. 1153 00:57:42,859 --> 00:57:45,453 Wow. 1154 00:57:45,495 --> 00:57:46,519 - Yeah. - Gosh. 1155 00:57:46,563 --> 00:57:49,225 I just like to see this. When it is gonna be? 1156 00:57:49,265 --> 00:57:51,290 It's gonna be this coming Friday. 1157 00:57:51,334 --> 00:57:52,892 We got some surprises 1158 00:57:52,936 --> 00:57:54,767 but we're gonna put a little bit of a spin on it 1159 00:57:54,804 --> 00:57:56,169 and then see what you think. 1160 00:57:56,206 --> 00:57:57,696 I know about your spin. 1161 00:58:03,413 --> 00:58:06,644 But I'm not too sure that I can even be there. 1162 00:58:06,683 --> 00:58:10,380 Prof, one way or the other, you're gonna... we gonna make it. 1163 00:58:10,420 --> 00:58:12,854 You gonna... we gonna make you make it, okay? 1164 00:58:12,889 --> 00:58:14,220 I wanna be there. 1165 00:58:14,257 --> 00:58:15,246 That's the plan. 1166 00:58:17,427 --> 00:58:19,327 Oh, man, this is wonderful. 1167 00:58:19,362 --> 00:58:20,329 Yeah. 1168 00:58:20,363 --> 00:58:21,990 All right? 1169 00:58:22,031 --> 00:58:22,998 All right. 1170 00:58:23,032 --> 00:58:24,021 Okay, man. 1171 00:58:27,504 --> 00:58:28,801 I love you. 1172 00:58:28,838 --> 00:58:31,671 - Love you too. - Talk to you soon, man. 1173 00:58:37,113 --> 00:58:38,910 Ahhh, man. 1174 00:59:06,876 --> 00:59:08,173 If y'all could give me your attention. 1175 00:59:08,211 --> 00:59:11,339 This is... This is, uh, very difficult for me. 1176 00:59:11,381 --> 00:59:13,906 Prof had a mild heart attack. 1177 00:59:15,184 --> 00:59:16,344 Okay? 1178 00:59:16,386 --> 00:59:20,049 He's at the Methodist Hospital and, um, 1179 00:59:20,089 --> 00:59:22,990 I made a promise to him 1180 00:59:23,026 --> 00:59:24,459 that we're gonna do this for him. 1181 00:59:24,494 --> 00:59:26,462 I told him about all you guys and the... 1182 00:59:26,496 --> 00:59:29,727 and the commitment, and he's... he was just blown away 1183 00:59:29,766 --> 00:59:31,859 that all you guys actually, you know, 1184 00:59:31,901 --> 00:59:34,131 came back together, you know, for this, 1185 00:59:34,170 --> 00:59:36,400 so we got work to do. 1186 00:59:36,439 --> 00:59:40,466 And, um, I'm gonna ask, um, Tim 1187 00:59:40,510 --> 00:59:43,809 to, uh, stand and say something special for us 1188 00:59:43,846 --> 00:59:46,007 because we need this right now. 1189 00:59:46,049 --> 00:59:49,280 Gracious God, our Father, again we come before your presence. 1190 00:59:49,319 --> 00:59:51,287 So we ask now that you would speak your Word 1191 00:59:51,321 --> 00:59:54,085 concerning the illness of Prof Conrad Johnson. 1192 00:59:54,123 --> 00:59:57,217 I was wondering, Was I ever gonna see him again 1193 00:59:57,260 --> 01:00:00,161 and did I say everything I needed to say? 1194 01:00:00,196 --> 01:00:01,823 Just touch his body... 1195 01:00:01,864 --> 01:00:04,264 Was my life, the things that I had done, 1196 01:00:04,300 --> 01:00:07,633 did it please him? 1197 01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:11,106 I was wondering if I was gonna ever get a chance 1198 01:00:11,140 --> 01:00:13,267 to actually just touch his hand 1199 01:00:13,309 --> 01:00:17,143 orjust say I love you. 1200 01:00:17,180 --> 01:00:18,374 Thank you. 1201 01:00:18,414 --> 01:00:20,245 We pray that you would bless us now 1202 01:00:20,283 --> 01:00:21,580 and continue to bless us 1203 01:00:21,618 --> 01:00:23,347 throughout all the days of our lives... 1204 01:00:23,386 --> 01:00:25,581 We were just saying, "Hang on, Prof. 1205 01:00:25,622 --> 01:00:27,385 "Hang on. We're doing this. 1206 01:00:27,423 --> 01:00:29,448 We're doing this for you. Just hang on." 1207 01:00:29,492 --> 01:00:32,086 And we thank you. Amen. 1208 01:00:33,963 --> 01:00:35,453 Very top of the song, here we go. 1209 01:00:35,498 --> 01:00:36,795 Showtime. 1210 01:00:36,833 --> 01:00:40,234 1, 2... 1, 2, 3... 1211 01:00:47,944 --> 01:00:51,004 When you heard that... boww! 1212 01:00:51,047 --> 01:00:52,878 I mean, it almost knocked me down 1213 01:00:52,915 --> 01:00:55,349 and I was trying to keep my emotions to myself 1214 01:00:55,385 --> 01:00:56,511 'cause I didn't want them to see 1215 01:00:56,552 --> 01:00:59,077 that it was like, man, you gonna make me cry, man. 1216 01:00:59,122 --> 01:01:02,148 You gonna make me cry 'cause, you know, this is power. 1217 01:01:02,191 --> 01:01:05,683 This is Conrad Johnson power and we're playing his power. 1218 01:01:05,728 --> 01:01:08,788 Talkin' 'bout the zero, unh! 1219 01:01:08,831 --> 01:01:12,028 Talkin' 'bout the zero... 1220 01:01:12,068 --> 01:01:13,729 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah... 1221 01:01:13,770 --> 01:01:16,466 Zero, unh! 1222 01:01:16,506 --> 01:01:19,805 Talkin' 'bout the zero, unh! 1223 01:01:23,780 --> 01:01:28,308 I want Prof to feel like we never lost it, 1224 01:01:28,351 --> 01:01:31,115 that we still have it going on. 1225 01:01:31,154 --> 01:01:34,646 We want to show him that we were listening 1226 01:01:34,691 --> 01:01:36,454 and we were paying attention 1227 01:01:36,492 --> 01:01:41,088 and we want him to know that we respect his music. 1228 01:01:41,130 --> 01:01:43,189 We don't want the students to look and say, 1229 01:01:43,232 --> 01:01:45,132 "Oh, that was just a bunch of old people." 1230 01:01:45,168 --> 01:01:47,830 We want them, when they hear us, to say, 1231 01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:51,067 "Wow, those old people still have it." 1232 01:01:51,107 --> 01:01:54,406 I just hope that they will see that there are some guys 1233 01:01:54,444 --> 01:01:56,275 that came out of this same neighborhood 1234 01:01:56,312 --> 01:01:57,745 that walked these same halls 1235 01:01:57,780 --> 01:01:59,805 that sat in these same classrooms 1236 01:01:59,849 --> 01:02:01,612 that did something tremendous. 1237 01:02:01,651 --> 01:02:04,347 My deepest hopes for this reunion concert 1238 01:02:04,387 --> 01:02:07,413 is that we take another tour to Europe, Japan, 1239 01:02:07,457 --> 01:02:08,856 and I get a major record deal. 1240 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,285 I can't put it in no other words. 1241 01:02:14,931 --> 01:02:16,558 We're gonna do this, this thing, 1242 01:02:16,599 --> 01:02:20,558 and, uh, and like, yes, l-I wanna be a part of it. 1243 01:02:20,603 --> 01:02:21,763 I wanna be there. 1244 01:02:21,804 --> 01:02:24,170 I wanna, I wanna feel it again, you know. 1245 01:02:24,207 --> 01:02:27,734 So, um, yeah it's... it's a big thing for me. 1246 01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:35,517 I want him, I want him to know... 1247 01:02:35,551 --> 01:02:38,179 that we didn't forget, man. 1248 01:02:38,221 --> 01:02:40,314 We didn't forget how to do it. 1249 01:02:40,356 --> 01:02:43,519 You know. Maybe 30, 40 years from the moment, 1250 01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:45,959 but we didn't forget how to do it, you know? 1251 01:02:48,297 --> 01:02:51,266 - Comp. What's going on? - Hey, man. 1252 01:02:51,300 --> 01:02:53,860 Looking good, boy. Looking good, boy. 1253 01:02:53,903 --> 01:02:57,031 Good to see you, man. Well, you're looking good, man. 1254 01:03:03,246 --> 01:03:05,646 Oh, it's time, fellas, it's time. 1255 01:03:05,681 --> 01:03:07,148 Look at you. What's up? 1256 01:03:07,183 --> 01:03:08,275 Man. I'm... I'm happy, man. 1257 01:03:08,317 --> 01:03:10,182 I'm happy we doing it. We doing it. 1258 01:03:10,219 --> 01:03:11,345 You're choking, brother. 1259 01:03:11,387 --> 01:03:13,480 No, no, no, don't choke me. 1260 01:03:13,523 --> 01:03:15,150 Let me, let me stretch it a little bit more now. 1261 01:03:15,191 --> 01:03:16,886 Now, my neck ain't that big, Clifford. 1262 01:03:16,926 --> 01:03:18,484 Come on, what you trying to say, man? 1263 01:03:18,528 --> 01:03:20,359 I'm trying to say it's all good, man. 1264 01:03:20,396 --> 01:03:22,023 Earl Spiller told me, he said, 1265 01:03:22,064 --> 01:03:23,326 "Man, when we get old, man, we're gonna do this. 1266 01:03:23,366 --> 01:03:27,166 We're gonna do a reunion, man, and we're gonna be all old, man." 1267 01:03:27,203 --> 01:03:28,693 But we ain't all that old. 1268 01:03:28,738 --> 01:03:30,103 - We ain't all that old. - We're still looking good. 1269 01:03:30,139 --> 01:03:32,232 Bruce here. We use to call him the hoochie coochie man. 1270 01:03:32,275 --> 01:03:36,211 When he played, he would kind of move his hips and wiggle. 1271 01:03:40,082 --> 01:03:41,174 - Look at this. - Get that. 1272 01:03:41,217 --> 01:03:43,185 Who did that? Who did that? 1273 01:03:43,219 --> 01:03:44,914 Get front page. Look at it, look at you, boy. 1274 01:03:44,954 --> 01:03:47,548 Boy, you're stealin' headlines. 1275 01:03:47,590 --> 01:03:49,558 Well, we sure remember, right? 1276 01:03:56,966 --> 01:03:59,230 Quiet up. He's trying to talk. 1277 01:03:59,268 --> 01:04:00,929 We got Class of '59. 1278 01:04:00,970 --> 01:04:02,631 - All right. - Oh, oh! 1279 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,135 Old school in the house. 1280 01:04:06,175 --> 01:04:09,804 I just wanna say I know I'm with some bad musicians. 1281 01:04:09,846 --> 01:04:12,747 But we... but we brought the first trophy to this school. 1282 01:04:12,782 --> 01:04:14,750 - Uh-oh. - Hey! Hey! 1283 01:04:17,053 --> 01:04:20,420 And it was not a jazz trophy, 1284 01:04:20,456 --> 01:04:22,947 so Conrad is more than justjazz. 1285 01:04:22,992 --> 01:04:25,893 Conrad made me fall in love with symphony music. 1286 01:04:25,928 --> 01:04:27,953 And when we first went to Prairie View, 1287 01:04:27,997 --> 01:04:31,489 we all... we were so poor we didn't have uniforms as a school. 1288 01:04:31,534 --> 01:04:33,502 All we had was white pants and a white shirt, 1289 01:04:33,536 --> 01:04:36,164 and people would say, "Who are those milkmen? 1290 01:04:36,205 --> 01:04:38,833 What they... What they... What they coming here for?" 1291 01:04:38,875 --> 01:04:42,003 But when we left, they knew who those milkmen were. 1292 01:04:42,044 --> 01:04:44,808 But I came here and... I came here just to say 1293 01:04:44,847 --> 01:04:49,375 Conrad has done wonders for everybody, and so I just wanted you to get it straight. 1294 01:04:49,418 --> 01:04:51,386 He's more than just a jazz musician. 1295 01:04:51,420 --> 01:04:52,853 He's a true musician, 1296 01:04:52,889 --> 01:04:56,017 from the mole on his head to the top of his toes. 1297 01:04:56,058 --> 01:04:57,787 Any time we doing something, 1298 01:04:57,827 --> 01:05:00,318 Mr. Gerald Calhoun come from Portugal. 1299 01:05:08,571 --> 01:05:10,198 Speech! Speech! 1300 01:05:10,239 --> 01:05:14,403 To be here after all of these years 1301 01:05:14,443 --> 01:05:19,642 and all of us come together for this moment in... at this time... 1302 01:05:19,682 --> 01:05:21,206 Hear, hear! Yes, sir. Yeah, man. 1303 01:05:21,250 --> 01:05:22,239 ...can you believe that? 1304 01:05:22,285 --> 01:05:24,082 Amen. 1305 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,418 It's... It's happened. It's happened. 1306 01:05:26,455 --> 01:05:28,889 - It's going down. - It's here, it's today, 1307 01:05:28,925 --> 01:05:31,553 - We're all here. - Let's get it on. 1308 01:05:31,594 --> 01:05:32,925 What a blessing. 1309 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,360 Now, Adrian Tyler. 1310 01:05:40,403 --> 01:05:41,836 Band Director. 1311 01:05:41,871 --> 01:05:47,241 Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes. 1312 01:05:47,276 --> 01:05:49,767 I really thank you from the bottom of my heart 1313 01:05:49,812 --> 01:05:53,248 for being able to come here and show my current students 1314 01:05:53,282 --> 01:05:57,309 that it is possible to come from this very band room 1315 01:05:57,353 --> 01:05:59,514 and make a positive influence. 1316 01:05:59,555 --> 01:06:02,524 I thank you and I urge you, don't let this be the last time 1317 01:06:02,558 --> 01:06:04,992 you come back to Kashmere for another 30 years. 1318 01:06:05,027 --> 01:06:06,119 All right? 1319 01:06:06,162 --> 01:06:07,720 I hope to see a lot of you all come. 1320 01:06:07,763 --> 01:06:09,663 If you wanna help out, give me a call. 1321 01:06:16,706 --> 01:06:18,105 Ahh, boy. 1322 01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:19,937 Need any help with that? 1323 01:06:19,976 --> 01:06:22,171 That way he won't have to walk as far. 1324 01:06:22,211 --> 01:06:24,406 All right, let's just swing it on around. 1325 01:06:24,447 --> 01:06:26,210 You're gonna swing your legs on around for me? 1326 01:06:26,248 --> 01:06:28,648 - I do. - Come on. 1327 01:06:30,386 --> 01:06:32,081 Now don't turn me loose, now. 1328 01:06:32,121 --> 01:06:33,748 Oh, I'm not gonna turn you loose. 1329 01:06:33,789 --> 01:06:36,690 I'm just getting you ready. You ready to roll? 1330 01:06:36,726 --> 01:06:38,421 Now let me see. 1331 01:06:43,466 --> 01:06:44,865 It was pretty crazy to see him 1332 01:06:44,900 --> 01:06:48,063 wheeled in, in a wheelchair to the high school, you know, 1333 01:06:48,104 --> 01:06:49,696 looking more frail than I'd imagined 1334 01:06:49,739 --> 01:06:51,707 and I thought to myself, "My God, 1335 01:06:51,741 --> 01:06:55,370 like, he's really been hanging on to see this." 1336 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,511 Why this program, why today? 1337 01:07:01,550 --> 01:07:03,518 Today is February 1st, 1338 01:07:03,552 --> 01:07:05,986 and we begin Black History Month 1339 01:07:06,022 --> 01:07:07,990 and our observance of Black History Month 1340 01:07:08,024 --> 01:07:10,185 around these United States. 1341 01:07:10,226 --> 01:07:14,720 And what a fitting opportunity for us to honor and to recognize 1342 01:07:14,764 --> 01:07:19,758 an icon in the music industry, Mr. Conrad O. Johnson. 1343 01:07:19,802 --> 01:07:21,030 You are an example 1344 01:07:21,070 --> 01:07:23,334 of what educators all over the world hope to be, 1345 01:07:23,372 --> 01:07:25,203 and that is an influence on their students. 1346 01:07:25,241 --> 01:07:27,072 We thank you, we honor you, we love you. 1347 01:07:34,850 --> 01:07:36,181 I wanted to cry 1348 01:07:36,218 --> 01:07:40,154 because I was so glad to see him. 1349 01:07:40,189 --> 01:07:41,952 Even though he looked feeble, 1350 01:07:41,991 --> 01:07:47,952 I knew that his heart was there and he was watching his children. 1351 01:07:47,997 --> 01:07:51,091 And he was, like, saying, "Nothing's changed. 1352 01:07:51,133 --> 01:07:54,933 I'm just older now. So are you. Play." 1353 01:07:56,305 --> 01:07:57,897 Without any further ado, 1354 01:07:57,940 --> 01:08:01,842 the legendary Kashmere Stage Band. Give it up. 1355 01:08:14,790 --> 01:08:15,779 1, 2, 3, 4. 1356 01:09:34,637 --> 01:09:37,902 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4! 1357 01:11:23,012 --> 01:11:25,913 These are my brothers and sisters. 1358 01:11:25,948 --> 01:11:30,112 The Kashmere Alumni Stage Band, 1359 01:11:30,152 --> 01:11:34,088 under the direction of Mr. Conrad O. Johnson. 1360 01:11:47,202 --> 01:11:49,067 Prof, what you think about this today, man? 1361 01:11:49,104 --> 01:11:50,537 It was all right, huh? 1362 01:11:50,572 --> 01:11:51,368 Yeah. It was all right. It was all right. 1363 01:11:51,407 --> 01:11:52,396 Oh, yeah, man. 1364 01:11:52,441 --> 01:11:53,339 - It sound good? - It sound good. 1365 01:11:53,375 --> 01:11:55,070 Yeah? We enjoyed it, Prof. 1366 01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:56,737 I enjoyed it too, man. 1367 01:11:56,779 --> 01:11:58,610 It was a wonderful thing, wasn't it? 1368 01:11:58,647 --> 01:12:00,945 - It was great, man. - Fantastic. 1369 01:12:00,983 --> 01:12:02,473 I never saw anything like it. 1370 01:12:02,518 --> 01:12:04,679 Yeah, me too. Me too. 1371 01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,745 You gave us the spirit and we gonna pass it on. 1372 01:12:06,789 --> 01:12:08,086 - Pass it on. - We'll pass it on. 1373 01:12:08,123 --> 01:12:09,283 That's what we gotta do. 1374 01:12:09,325 --> 01:12:10,553 It'll never go away. 1375 01:12:10,592 --> 01:12:12,082 We were just some little old snotty-nose kids, 1376 01:12:12,127 --> 01:12:14,357 you took us under your wing and made real musicians out of us. 1377 01:12:14,396 --> 01:12:15,886 We sure appreciate that, Prof. 1378 01:12:15,931 --> 01:12:17,956 You gave us our purpose, man. 1379 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,093 And we all came back here for it, to honor you, man. 1380 01:12:20,135 --> 01:12:21,295 We'll never forget it. 1381 01:12:21,337 --> 01:12:23,737 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, man. 1382 01:12:25,007 --> 01:12:26,770 Well, you did it. 1383 01:12:26,809 --> 01:12:29,835 And you can take it from me, baby. 1384 01:12:29,878 --> 01:12:31,368 You did it. 1385 01:12:31,413 --> 01:12:34,644 Now listen good, baby, and you would. 1386 01:12:34,683 --> 01:12:35,775 Yeah. 1387 01:12:35,818 --> 01:12:38,286 - You was right. - Mm-hmm. 1388 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,845 He brought 'em back 30 years later... 1389 01:12:40,889 --> 01:12:41,856 Yeah. 1390 01:12:41,890 --> 01:12:43,585 ...and you could still do the same thing. 1391 01:12:43,625 --> 01:12:44,751 Yeah. 1392 01:13:01,043 --> 01:13:02,772 So I talked to his son. His son said, 1393 01:13:02,811 --> 01:13:06,474 "You know, Prof's been sleeping, "uh, since he got home last night, 1394 01:13:06,515 --> 01:13:09,951 "but come on out and, you know, we'll wake him up and we'll talk. 1395 01:13:09,985 --> 01:13:12,010 You know, he loves to talk with you about music." 1396 01:13:12,054 --> 01:13:14,750 So I said, "Great. I'll be right out there." 1397 01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:17,224 So we go in there and he wakes up Prof 1398 01:13:17,259 --> 01:13:19,989 and Prof sits up and we start talking. 1399 01:13:20,028 --> 01:13:25,523 And I said "Hey, Prof, you know, I just... I hope you... 1400 01:13:25,567 --> 01:13:28,365 I hope you feel that I've, you know, I've done you right." 1401 01:13:28,404 --> 01:13:30,895 You know, and he said, "Yeah, man, you know, 1402 01:13:30,939 --> 01:13:32,031 you've done me right." 1403 01:13:32,074 --> 01:13:33,905 And I said, uh, 1404 01:13:33,942 --> 01:13:37,434 I said, "You know, it... your legacy's safe." 1405 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,380 And he said, "Yeah, I know it's safe. 1406 01:13:40,416 --> 01:13:42,384 You know, what's next?" 1407 01:13:42,418 --> 01:13:44,579 And I said, "Man, maybe we could do, 1408 01:13:44,620 --> 01:13:46,713 you know, a compilation of all these ballads." 1409 01:13:46,755 --> 01:13:49,656 He's like, "Man, we had some great ballads, man." 1410 01:13:49,691 --> 01:13:51,522 And I said, "Yeah, man, you know, 1411 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,688 "you had so much and I'm... 1412 01:13:54,730 --> 01:13:56,698 so proud to be a part of this." 1413 01:13:58,801 --> 01:14:01,929 And I just said, "Yeah, I love you, man." 1414 01:14:01,970 --> 01:14:03,835 He said, "I love you too." 1415 01:14:05,574 --> 01:14:07,371 And then he fell asleep. 1416 01:14:15,451 --> 01:14:18,079 This is Conrad Johnson's granddaughter. 1417 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,212 I'm calling to let you know 1418 01:14:19,254 --> 01:14:21,950 Prof passed away, 5:00 p.m. Today. 1419 01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:26,120 It is, uh, Sunday. We wanted you to know. 1420 01:14:28,063 --> 01:14:30,588 This is Mingo in Houston just to say 1421 01:14:30,632 --> 01:14:33,692 I didn't know if you gotten the information about Prof. 1422 01:14:33,735 --> 01:14:35,726 So I was calling you to pass it on. 1423 01:14:41,143 --> 01:14:45,045 I don't know if anyone has told you we lost Prof. 1424 01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:49,414 He's gone on home. He be blessed. 1425 01:14:54,022 --> 01:14:56,320 Conrad Johnson has just passed. 1426 01:14:56,358 --> 01:14:58,883 We all are getting word right now. 1427 01:15:20,849 --> 01:15:23,443 When we wear the gloves, 1428 01:15:23,485 --> 01:15:25,612 when we wear the gloves, 1429 01:15:25,654 --> 01:15:27,622 a brother has gone from our midst 1430 01:15:27,656 --> 01:15:29,590 and sailed to golden shores. 1431 01:15:29,625 --> 01:15:30,990 When we wear the gloves, 1432 01:15:31,026 --> 01:15:34,757 a friend has passed the final test 1433 01:15:34,796 --> 01:15:37,230 and walked through purple doors. 1434 01:15:37,266 --> 01:15:41,600 The circle has an empty place. A voice will raise no more. 1435 01:15:41,637 --> 01:15:46,267 The song of fellowship and love uplift forevermore. 1436 01:15:46,308 --> 01:15:49,607 Good morning. Yeah, it's a good day. 1437 01:15:49,645 --> 01:15:53,240 For this is a day of celebration. 1438 01:15:55,350 --> 01:16:00,583 And you celebrated Prof all the way up to Heaven's door. 1439 01:16:00,622 --> 01:16:01,919 God bless you. 1440 01:16:01,957 --> 01:16:04,858 You gave him his flowers while he was still here 1441 01:16:04,893 --> 01:16:08,420 and could appreciate it and Prof had a blast. 1442 01:16:09,831 --> 01:16:17,260 We give you the glory... 1443 01:16:17,306 --> 01:16:19,399 Today, tomorrow... 1444 01:16:19,441 --> 01:16:28,543 And forever... 1445 01:16:28,584 --> 01:16:33,612 And ever... 1446 01:16:33,655 --> 01:16:35,213 And... 1447 01:16:35,257 --> 01:16:45,724 Ever... 1448 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,504 I gave them pride. I gave them honor. 1449 01:17:30,712 --> 01:17:33,909 I gave them exceptional performance. 1450 01:17:35,283 --> 01:17:37,148 And they knew it. 1451 01:17:39,721 --> 01:17:41,188 And they appreciated it. 1452 01:17:45,293 --> 01:17:47,761 But we had to work to do it, now. 1453 01:17:47,796 --> 01:17:49,889 It didn'tjust come natural. 1454 01:17:57,806 --> 01:18:00,297 This is powerful. It's a wonderful moment. 1455 01:18:00,342 --> 01:18:04,108 A man and his horn. A man and his horn. 1456 01:18:06,748 --> 01:18:08,511 Oh, how wonderful. 1457 01:18:09,951 --> 01:18:12,283 Oh, man, that looks just like him, man. 1458 01:18:27,302 --> 01:18:28,360 For Conrad. 1459 01:18:29,305 --> 01:19:29,838 Ondertitels door Mister Bee Bart Besems 112159

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