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- [Tim] I never thought
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I would be caught up
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in a story such as this,
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because I live on the
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other side of the world.
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On one hand, it's exciting
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to be making a film
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that searches for the
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truth about the Exodus.
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On the other hand, I must admit,
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I'm a reluctant participant.
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I never wanted to go
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to the Middle East.
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I never wanted to be
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involved in controversy
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because it means
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taking on the giants
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of archaeology,
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religion and tradition.
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But what I've found might
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shock and surprise you.
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You can decide if
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it will change you,
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like it has changed me.
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- [Voiceover] The exodus
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of the children of Israel
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from Egypt and their
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journey to the Promised Land
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is one of the most influential
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and important stories
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in all of the world history.
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- [Benjamin] The
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stories in the Bible
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are the most powerful
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narratives ever told.
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It's not a coincidence
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that this book has held
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the imagination of mankind
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for thousands of years
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because the stories
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are remarkable.
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- It's the most amazing
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book, if you think about it.
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It's a book that covers
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about 4,000 years of history
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and it really is the
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first history book
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until the time of the Greeks.
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Herodotus was supposed
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to be the first historian
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but in fact I think Moses was.
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- [Shimon] He remains,
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without any competition,
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the greatest
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legislator of all time.
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And as for the Ten Commandments
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that he brought down from Sinai,
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it is the foundation
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of our civilization.
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Take away the Ten Commandments
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and we are out of business.
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- [Voiceover] Yet,
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against the idea
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that the biblical
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account is true,
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voices across our culture
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and around the world
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are raised in protest.
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These voices say that
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the biblical narrative
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is nothing more than
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a myth, a fairy tale.
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And their antagonistic
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claims appear to be supported
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by the findings of
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modern archaeology.
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- [Israel] The
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Exodus did not happen
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in the way that it is
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described in the text
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on the background of
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the 13th century BC.
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- I don't believe there
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was a single event
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that we can call the Exodus,
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archaeologically
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or historically.
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- [Michael] It's 24
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minutes past the hour
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on the Michael Medved show,
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your daily dose of debate,
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and right now, debating
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some of the most important
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questions with Rabbi
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David Wolpe, who leads
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one of America's largest
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Jewish congregations.
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In 2001, Rabbi Wolpe
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created a national furor
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when his Passover
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sermon challenged
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the historical
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reality of the Exodus.
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Rabbi Wolpe, what did you say?
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- I said that the Exodus
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certainly didn't happen
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the way the Bible depicted
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it, assuming that it was
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a historical event
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in any description.
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I think that if you look
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at it scientifically,
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it's virtually indefensible
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to make the Bible's case.
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But you also have to
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understand that your faith
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isn't based on splitting
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seas or archaeological digs;
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it's based on
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something much deeper.
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- But if these are not facts,
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if this is a fairy story,
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if this is fabricated somehow,
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doesn't that undermine
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the religious meaning?
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In other words, doesn't
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that change things?
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- The extent to which
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it has a historical core
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is very hard to say, but my
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deeper conviction about it
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is that it's a story that,
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whether it was true, it is true,
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and those are two
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different things.
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- That seems to be evading --
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- Well, in other words,
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things that aren't
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facts can be truths.
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- What part of the Torah
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would you grant
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to be based upon
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historical reality?
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- I can't tell
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you. I don't know.
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I don't know and, although it
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may irk people, I don't care.
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- [Voiceover] If the
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leading scholars agree
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with the most outspoken
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atheists and agnostics,
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if even some rabbis agree
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with the most skeptical
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archaeologists that
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there's no evidence at all
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that the Exodus ever
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really happened,
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then what are the rest
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of us supposed to think?
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If none of it happened,
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then the two religions
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of the Bible,
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Judaism and Christianity,
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are both based on
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a gigantic lie.
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It was the type of
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question that troubled
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a filmmaker from Minneapolis
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named Timothy Mahoney.
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As he probed more deeply,
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little did Mahoney realize
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how far his journey
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would take him.
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- [Tim] The more I
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looked into the Exodus,
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the more I realized
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its significance.
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I knew I had to investigate
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this story for myself,
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and the first step was to
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explore whether there was
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any hard evidence for
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the Exodus at all.
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I began my journey by
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traveling to the very place
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the Bible says it happened:
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the ancient land of Egypt.
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I was raised as a Christian
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and I remember hearing
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amazing stories from
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the Bible as a child,
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and I believed them.
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Stories about an ancient
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family of shepherds,
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the sons of Jacob, who came
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from a foreign land to Egypt.
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by the pharaoh,
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then miraculously
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delivered out of Egypt
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and journeyed across the desert
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to conquer the Promised Land.
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But, as I grew older,
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I was challenged to
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lose those beliefs.
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Now I just wanted
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to know the truth.
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- [Voiceover] The Exodus is
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believed by most scholars
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to have occurred in the
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reign of Ramesses II.
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Ramesses was Egypt's
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greatest builder king.
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Were these mighty monuments
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built on the sweat and
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toil of Hebrew slaves?
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- [Tim] If experts say
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there's no evidence
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during the time of Ramesses,
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why do they think he is
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the Pharaoh of the Exodus?
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I'm no historian, so I had
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to find a way to visualize
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how the history of ancient Egypt
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related to the
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events of the Bible.
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The thought came to me
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to imagine a Wall of Time
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extending back to the earliest
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moments of civilization.
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On the first level,
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Egyptian history,
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and above it the events
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recorded in the Bible,
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and at the bottom, a
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timeline of absolute dates,
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an immovable base to gauge
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the events of history,
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with great pylons marking
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every thousand years.
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- [Voiceover] Over the
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course of 2,000 years,
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Egypt experienced three
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great periods of power.
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It began with the Old Kingdom,
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with its great
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pyramids of stone.
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Then came the Middle Kingdom,
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the highpoint of
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art and literature.
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Finally, the New Kingdom,
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with its vast empires that
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dominated foreign lands.
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of power were followed
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by dark periods of
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disunity and weakness.
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Ramesses II was a pharaoh
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of the New Kingdom
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who ruled a grand empire
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and filled Egypt
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with his monuments.
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There is one crucial
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passage in the Bible
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that leads many to
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chain the Exodus event
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to the time of Pharaoh Ramesses,
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in what is known as The
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Ramesses Exodus Theory.
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- A key to that
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theory is the building
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of the city of Ramesses
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mentioned in Exodus 1:11;
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the Hebrews are making bricks
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to build the city of Ramesses,
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or the storage
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facilities of Ramesses.
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- [Voiceover] Professor
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James Hoffmeier
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is one of the few Egyptologists
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who has written extensively
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on the biblical Exodus.
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- This important city, which
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we know Ramesses II built,
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it's being excavated
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even as we speak
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and continues to be studied.
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This city has a
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very brief history.
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the city's gone.
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It has a very narrow history
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of no more than 200 years.
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So, the question is, if
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this building project
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that the Israelites
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are involved in,
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is Ramesses II's
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Delta residence,
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then we have no
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escape but to say
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this is an important
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chronological marker,
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and that can only be somewhere
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in the 13th century BC.
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- [Tim] Dates in the BC period
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can be confusing to work
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with because they move
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in the opposite direction
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to modern AD dates.
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The farther back you go in
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time, the bigger the BC number.
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So the Ramesses Exodus
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Theory places the Exodus
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about 250 years before 1000 BC,
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or at about 1250 BC.
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I wanted an Egyptian
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perspective,
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so I went to see Mansour Boraik,
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director general of
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antiquities for Luxor,
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one of Egypt's most important
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archaeological sites.
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I asked Mansour if
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he was in agreement
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that there was no evidence
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for the early Israelites
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or the Exodus in Egypt.
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- Nobody knows what
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the sands of Egypt
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can tell of secrets.
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Maybe in the excavation
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we can find some evidence.
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But so far, there's
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no documented evidence
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about the Exodus.
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But we know the Exodus
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from the holy books.
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It's mentioned in the
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Koran, the Holy Koran.
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It's in the Holy bible,
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but in the ground,
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we have no evidence.
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(mystical music)
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- [Tim] Well it wasn't as if
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I hadn't heard this before,
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but I was still hopeful
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of finding something
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in the ruins of this
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magnificent civilization.
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What I really needed,
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though, was physical evidence
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of the cultural group that
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the Israelites were a part of:
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Semites, coming down
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to live in Egypt
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from a land called Canaan.
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- [Voiceover] The problem is
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that no archaeological evidence
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has turned up for these Semites
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in the city built
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by Ramesses II.
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(lively music)
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- [Tim] But then, I
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heard of something
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that seemed astonishing.
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New archaeological discoveries
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of a city and a people
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that appeared to match
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the biblical story,
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made at the very location
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of the city of Ramesses,
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where the Bible
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places the Israelites.
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- [Voiceover] Mahoney
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would be interviewing
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one of the world's most
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respected Egyptologists.
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Professor Manfred Bietak
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and his Austrian team
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have been digging
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in Egypt's delta
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for over 30 years at
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the site of Avaris.
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Avaris lies directly
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below the southern sector
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of the city of Ramesses.
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- [Tim] I asked
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Manfred to tell me
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about these exciting new finds.
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- We uncovered the remains
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of a huge town of 250 hectares
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with a population
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of approximately
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25,000 - 30,000 individuals.
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These were people
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who originated from
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Canaan, Syria-Palestine.
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Originally they may
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have come here as
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subjects of the Egyptian crown
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or with the blessing
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of the Egyptian crown.
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Obviously, the town enjoyed
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something like a special status,
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like a free zone,
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something like that.
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- [Tim] This sounded
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exactly like the Bible.
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Pharaoh gave his blessing by
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allowing the early Israelites
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to freely settle in
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the best part of Egypt.
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Once there, they
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and their flocks
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prospered and
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multiplied greatly.
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This was just what
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I was looking for.
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So I asked him,
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could these foreigners
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be the early Israelites?
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- We have some
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evidence of shepherds.
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We find again and
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again in this area,
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pits with goats and sheep.
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So we know shephers,
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probably Bedouins,
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with huge herds
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roamed around this,
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But to connect this with
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the proto-Israelites
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is a very weak affair.
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- [Tim] I was stunned
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when Manfred said
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it was a weak affair.
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Why couldn't these
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be the Israelites
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when they match the
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Bible's story so well?
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According to my
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opinion, the settlement
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of the proto-Israelites
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in Canaan
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only happened from the
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12th century BC onwards.
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- [Tim] What Manfred
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was telling me
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is that the physical
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evidence of these people
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is centuries too
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early to be connected
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to the events of the Exodus.
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This is profound,
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because no Israelites in
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Egypt means no Exodus,
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and no Exodus means
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that the foundation
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of Judaism is a myth.
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And for Christians,
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it means Jesus Christ
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and the writers of the
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New Testament got it wrong
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because they all
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accepted the reality
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of Moses and the Exodus, and
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built their teachings on them.
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(slow guitar music)
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I returned home from Egypt.
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I wanted to be open-minded,
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but as I replayed the
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interview in my thoughts,
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a cold chill came over me.
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All my life I had believed the
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Bible's stories to be true.
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I know some people say
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you don't need any
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evidence, just have faith.
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But if there's no hard
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evidence for any of it,
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had I been believing
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in a lie all this time?
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And what about my
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kids and grandkids?
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What should they
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put their faith in?
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Whether you believe
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these stories or not,
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isn't it important to
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know what's really true?
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The more I thought about it,
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the more I realized
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I couldn't stop now,
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no matter how hard it would be.
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(lively music)
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I made a decision.
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I had to go back to Egypt.
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- [Voiceover] Mahoney
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arranged to meet with one
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of America's leading
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Egyptologists,
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Professor Kent Weeks.
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He rediscovered KV5,
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the tomb of the sons
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of Ramesses II in the
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Valley of the Kings.
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He brought up a crucial issue
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when considering the
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problems with these events.
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- [Kent] Ramesses II as
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the Pharaoh of the Exodus,
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how can we prove that?
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Chronology doesn't really help.
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The chronology of Egypt
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is still a bit ambiguous.
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Correlations between
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Egyptian chronology
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and that of other cultures
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in the ancient Near East
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is even more confusing.
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We don't know precisely
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when the Exodus happened.
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Some people say it
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was Ramesses II.
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It makes nice theater
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because he was
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a great powerful ruler,
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everybody knows his name,
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he built fantastic monuments.
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Everything really is appealing
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to have him be
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the one to choose.
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- Because he'd be a very
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large opponent, wouldn't he?
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- He would be indeed.
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So, yeah, pick Ramesses II
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as the pharaoh of the Exodus,
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but other
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Egyptologists disagree.
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Almost any pharaoh could be
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the pharaoh of the Exodus,
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if we can prove there
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even was an Exodus.
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- [Tim] But if Ramesses wasn't
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the pharaoh of the Exodus,
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then who was?
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Looking for the Exodus
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in a different time
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or reign could be the solution.
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Maybe Ramesses is the problem?
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I found Mansour's
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openness refreshing.
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- Scientifically, you
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have to open your mind
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to all opinions,
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read it by yourself.
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Don't let anybody
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affect what you believe.
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But also on the other hand,
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you have to accept
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the other opinions.
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Your opinions are not
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always the right opinions.
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You have to accept
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the other opinons
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and debate wtih me, discuss.
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You can convince me or
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shall I convince you?
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Leave it to the public to judge.
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We have a myth, we have a story,
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it's in the holy
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books; who knows?
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And then you will come
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with a conclusion.
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This conclusion will be
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in front of the public.
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The public can judge.
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- [Tim] It was clear, I
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needed a new approach.
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What might even be considered
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a scientific approach,
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beginning by taking
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a closer look
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at the details of
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the biblical story.
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- [Voiceover] The oldest
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accounts of the Exodus
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were written down in Hebrew,
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in the first five books of
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the Bible known as the Torah.
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- [Tim] I asked
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Rabbi Manis Friedman,
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a member of Judaism's
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Orthodox branch,
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to recount the ancient
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stories of the Bible
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from these sacred scrolls.
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In order to test
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the Exodus fairly,
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I wanted to know what the
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story was actually claiming.
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- [Manis] The
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story of the Exodus
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begins before the
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Israelites leave Egypt.
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(sheep bleating)
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It begins with Abraham
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when God brings him
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to the land of Canaan
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and makes a covenant with him
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and, in that covenant,
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spells out the entire Exodus.
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The Lord said to Abraham,
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"All this land you see
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"I will give to you and
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your offspring forever.
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"Go, walk through the length
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and breadth of this land,
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"for I am giving it to you."
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On that day, the
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Lord made a covenant,
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a formal promise to Abraham.
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He said, "To your descendants,
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I give this land."
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God led Abraham
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outside and He said,
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"Look up to heaven and
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count the stars, if you can.
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"So numerous will
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your offspring be."
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And God said, "Your
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descendants will be foreigners
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"in a country not their own.
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"They will be enslaved
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and oppressed.
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"But I will judge the
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nation they serve as slaves,
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"and afterward
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they will come out
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"with great possessions
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and return here."
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- [Voiceover]
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According to the text,
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the events of the Exodus were
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not a historical accident.
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They were directed
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by the God of Abraham
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every step of the way.
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- [Tim] As my team and
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I looked more closely
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at this account,
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we could see that
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these biblical events
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formed a sequence,
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a sequence that could guide
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the entire investigation.
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I imagined the six steps
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of the biblical sequence,
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the major events of
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the Exodus story,
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running parallel to Egyptian
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history, starting with:
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the arrival of Abraham's
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descendants in Egypt,
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their tremendous multiplication,
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their descent into slavery,
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the judgment of the
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nation that enslaved them,
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their deliverance and
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exodus out of Egypt,
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and, finally, in Canaan,
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their conquest of
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the Promised Land.
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If the Exodus really happened,
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there are elements in
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the story that are so big
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that you'd think some
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remnants of evidence
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would've been left behind,
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somewhere in Egypt's history.
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We knew science solved problems
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by looking for
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patterns of evidence
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and a truly scientific approach
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looks for those patterns,
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no matter where they exist.
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I set out to see
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whether a pattern
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matching this sequence
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could be found,
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starting with the first step,
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the "arrival" of the
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Israelites in Egypt.
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- The book of Genesis tells us
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that the first descendant of
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Abraham to arrive in Egypt
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was his great-grandson,
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Joseph the son of Jacob.
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Joseph's brothers had
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sold him as a slave,
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to a caravan of traders who
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brought him down to Egypt.
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Then, in an amazing
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turn of events,
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he rises to become the
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highest official in Egypt,
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he saves the country
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from a terrible famine,
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enables his father, Jacob,
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and his entire family
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to settle in the best
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part of the land,
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a place called Goshen.
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- [Tim] My objective was to
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see if any specific evidence
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had been uncovered of
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this Semitic family-group
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arriving in Egypt,
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as told in the Bible.
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So, far I had none.
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- So far, not.
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We only know we have some
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evidence of shepherds --
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So far, not.
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- [Tim] I was stuck.
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But that was soon to
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change, when suddenly,
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something was telling
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me to go to my library
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and search out a book
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given to me a year earlier,
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that I had never read.
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(somber music)
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What startled me was that
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this author had answers
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to the very doubts that
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Beitek had raised in me.
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He had spent his whole life
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exploring the Middle East,
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a man familiar with the
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mysterious inscriptions
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and hieroglyphs of the pharaohs,
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and what they might reveal
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about the biblical stories.
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(celestial music)
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- [Voiceover] David
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Rohl, author, historian
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and Egyptologist is an agnostic,
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someone who remains unconvinced
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of the existence of God.
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Yet, he clearly sees
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archaeological evidence
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of the biblical Joseph,
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Jacob and the early Hebrews
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in the Nile Delta
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region of Egypt.
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Rohl believes that
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many Egyptologists
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have missed evidence
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for the Exodus
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because they have
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been looking for it
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in the wrong time period.
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While most scholars
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think that the events
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of the Exodus happened
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in the New Kingdom,
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David Rohl's view
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would put the Exodus
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in an entirely different period,
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the earlier Middle Kingdom,
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where he claims evidence
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for the Exodus can be seen.
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- [Tim] I wanted him to
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explain why he had come
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to such a different
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conclusion than Manfred Bietak
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about Joseph and the
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early Israelites.
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Tell me, who is Manfred Bietak?
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- Manfred Bietak is probably
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one of the greatest
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archaeologists alive today
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and he's dug up one of
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the most important sites
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in the eastern delta,
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a city called Avaris,
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which is in the land of Goshen,
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which the Bible calls it.
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And I believe this is the place
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where Joseph and
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his brethren lived.
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- Well, I went to see Manfred
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Bietak ... - [David] Right.
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- ... and that's
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not what he said.
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He said there's no evidence of
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this at the time of Ramesses.
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- Exactly right. Most
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scholars will say,
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if you look at the
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city of Ramesses,
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there are no Asiatics there,
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there are no western Asiatics
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living at that particular city.
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But dig down a bit
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a little bit deeper
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and you do find a
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city full of Asiatics.
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- Yeah, but the Bible
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says it happened
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at the time of Ramesses.
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- [David] Uh-huh.
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- What are you saying?
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- [David] I'm saying that
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this particular mention
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of the city of Ramesses,
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the building of Ramesses,
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is what we call
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an "anachronism".
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It's something that's been added
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into the text
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later by an editor.
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So what the editor is
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basically saying is,
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this is the place where the
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Israelites built the store city
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and we know it
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today as Ramesses.
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Well, in the ancient times,
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it was called Avaris.
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- Okay, so the people would
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know the area, the region --
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- The people of the
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Bible would've known
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where Ramesses was,
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and where therefore
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their ancestors
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actually built the city.
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- [Tim] I also found that the
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Bible in the book of Genesis,
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uses the word "Ramesses"
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hundreds of years
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before Pharaoh Ramesses
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or his city existed,
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to describe the land where
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Joseph's family settled.
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So, if the name
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Ramesses in Genesis
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does not refer to the time
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of Pharaoh Ramesses II,
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then why should the
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mention of Ramesses
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in the book of Exodus
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be any different?
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- [David] Now, this
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Avaris is the city
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which lies under the
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biblical Ramesses.
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Ramesses of the New Kingdom,
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Avaris of the Middle
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Kingdom, the 13th Dynasty.
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It lies underneath the city
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that's mentioned in the Bible.
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So, when Bietak digs
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up a huge population
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of Semitic speaking peoples
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with Semitic culture,
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living in this city of Avaris
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for several hundred years,
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and then, at the end of the
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period, these Semites all leave,
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depart with their belongings
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and abandon the city,
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whatever Manfred
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says, that to me
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sounds awfully like
884
00:28:08,066 --> 00:28:10,233
the Israelites.
885
00:28:11,934 --> 00:28:15,100
- Well what he told me was
886
00:28:11,934 --> 00:28:15,100
that there was no connection.
887
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,967
- [David] Well, look at the
888
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,967
evidence that you've got here.
889
00:28:18,066 --> 00:28:19,400
Right at the
890
00:28:18,066 --> 00:28:19,400
beginning, at the heart
891
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:22,033
of this community at the
892
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:22,033
end of the 12th Dynasty,
893
00:28:22,133 --> 00:28:23,967
we see a Syrian house appear.
894
00:28:24,066 --> 00:28:26,800
The Austrians call
895
00:28:24,066 --> 00:28:26,800
them Mittelsaal houses.
896
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:29,233
This type of house is
897
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:29,233
found in North Syria,
898
00:28:29,333 --> 00:28:31,266
the area where
899
00:28:29,333 --> 00:28:31,266
Abraham came from.
900
00:28:31,367 --> 00:28:32,900
It's exactly the
901
00:28:31,367 --> 00:28:32,900
same style of house
902
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,000
you'd expect Jacob to
903
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,000
build for himself in Egypt.
904
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:38,066
And we know that the
905
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:38,066
Israelites sought their brides
906
00:28:38,166 --> 00:28:40,367
from Harran in that region.
907
00:28:40,467 --> 00:28:43,333
They all went back to get
908
00:28:40,467 --> 00:28:43,333
their brides from there.
909
00:28:43,433 --> 00:28:45,133
So, the culture that
910
00:28:43,433 --> 00:28:45,133
turns up in Egypt
911
00:28:45,233 --> 00:28:46,767
at the end of the 12th Dynasty
912
00:28:46,867 --> 00:28:49,567
seems to have come from
913
00:28:46,867 --> 00:28:49,567
North Syria originally.
914
00:28:50,433 --> 00:28:53,233
- [Tim] So, what is
915
00:28:50,433 --> 00:28:53,233
the connection with
916
00:28:50,433 --> 00:28:53,233
Joseph at Avaris?
917
00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:55,633
- Well after this house of
918
00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:55,633
Jacob, if we can call it that,
919
00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:58,600
is built, eventually
920
00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:58,600
it's flattened,
921
00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:01,567
and on top of it an Egyptian
922
00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:01,567
palace is constructed,
923
00:29:01,667 --> 00:29:03,533
Egyptian architecture this time.
924
00:29:03,633 --> 00:29:05,800
However, the occupant
925
00:29:03,633 --> 00:29:05,800
was not Egyptian.
926
00:29:07,333 --> 00:29:11,834
The palace had courtyards,
927
00:29:07,333 --> 00:29:11,834
colonnades, audience chambers.
928
00:29:11,934 --> 00:29:14,066
There was even a robing room.
929
00:29:14,166 --> 00:29:16,867
It obviously belonged to
930
00:29:14,166 --> 00:29:16,867
some high official of state,
931
00:29:16,967 --> 00:29:19,200
who was very, very
932
00:29:16,967 --> 00:29:19,200
important to that state,
933
00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:21,233
because when somebody
934
00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:21,233
gets a palace like this
935
00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:23,133
given to them, it means
936
00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:23,133
they've been honored
937
00:29:23,233 --> 00:29:25,100
for what they've
938
00:29:23,233 --> 00:29:25,100
done for the state.
939
00:29:25,867 --> 00:29:27,800
Now, in the garden
940
00:29:25,867 --> 00:29:27,800
behind the palace,
941
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:30,767
the archaeologists
942
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:30,767
found 12 main graves
943
00:29:30,867 --> 00:29:33,433
with memorial chapels
944
00:29:30,867 --> 00:29:33,433
on top of them.
945
00:29:33,533 --> 00:29:35,467
- [Tim] You have 12 graves?
946
00:29:33,533 --> 00:29:35,467
- [David] We have 12 graves.
947
00:29:35,567 --> 00:29:37,266
- But why would
948
00:29:35,567 --> 00:29:37,266
that be significant?
949
00:29:37,367 --> 00:29:40,734
- Well, think about it: how
950
00:29:37,367 --> 00:29:40,734
many sons did Jacob have?
951
00:29:40,834 --> 00:29:42,233
- He had 12.
952
00:29:40,834 --> 00:29:42,233
- How many tribes were there?
953
00:29:42,333 --> 00:29:43,667
- Twelve tribes.
954
00:29:42,333 --> 00:29:43,667
- Exactly.
955
00:29:43,767 --> 00:29:46,734
And what's also amazing is
956
00:29:43,767 --> 00:29:46,734
the palace had a façade,
957
00:29:46,834 --> 00:29:49,233
a portico with 12 pillars.
958
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,066
So you've got 12
959
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,066
sons, 12 tribes, 12
960
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,066
pillars, and 12 tombs.
961
00:29:55,166 --> 00:29:57,734
- Interesting.
962
00:29:55,166 --> 00:29:57,734
- Yeah. Is that all coincidence?
963
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:01,567
Now, one of these 12
964
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:01,567
graves was very special,
965
00:30:01,667 --> 00:30:03,834
because it was a pyramid tomb.
966
00:30:03,934 --> 00:30:06,700
This in itself is extraordinary
967
00:30:03,934 --> 00:30:06,700
because only pharaohs
968
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,533
and queens had pyramid
969
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,533
tombs at this time.
970
00:30:09,633 --> 00:30:13,266
Yet the person buried in
971
00:30:09,633 --> 00:30:13,266
this tomb was not a king.
972
00:30:13,367 --> 00:30:16,100
Even so, he was honored
973
00:30:13,367 --> 00:30:16,100
with a king's burial.
974
00:30:16,967 --> 00:30:20,500
And, inside the chapel of
975
00:30:16,967 --> 00:30:20,500
the tomb, was a statue.
976
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,734
What we know from the statue
977
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,734
is that this man had red hair.
978
00:30:24,834 --> 00:30:26,600
He had pale yellow skin,
979
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,166
which is how Egyptians
980
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,166
depict northerners.
981
00:30:29,266 --> 00:30:31,767
He had a throw stick
982
00:30:29,266 --> 00:30:31,767
across his shoulder,
983
00:30:31,867 --> 00:30:35,400
a unique symbol of office
984
00:30:31,867 --> 00:30:35,400
made for this Asiatic official
985
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:37,367
living in the land of Goshen.
986
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:39,967
And on the back of his shoulder,
987
00:30:40,066 --> 00:30:42,934
we see the faintest
988
00:30:40,066 --> 00:30:42,934
remains of paint,
989
00:30:43,033 --> 00:30:46,200
colored stripes from
990
00:30:43,033 --> 00:30:46,200
a multicolored coat.
991
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:47,500
And that matches exactly
992
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,633
with the story of
993
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,633
Joseph in the Bible.
994
00:30:49,734 --> 00:30:51,600
The multicolored coat is a gift,
995
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:54,734
which shows that he was
996
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:54,734
the favorite of the father.
997
00:30:54,834 --> 00:30:57,767
And it almost becomes
998
00:30:54,834 --> 00:30:57,767
his insignia, this coat.
999
00:30:57,867 --> 00:31:00,433
It's the thing we remember
1000
00:30:57,867 --> 00:31:00,433
about him most of all.
1001
00:31:00,533 --> 00:31:02,734
- Do you know of
1002
00:31:00,533 --> 00:31:02,734
any other statues
1003
00:31:02,834 --> 00:31:05,166
of a Semite of
1004
00:31:02,834 --> 00:31:05,166
this kind in Egypt?
1005
00:31:05,266 --> 00:31:07,000
- There is nothing
1006
00:31:05,266 --> 00:31:07,000
else like this
1007
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:09,900
in the whole of Egyptian
1008
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:09,900
history, nothing at all.
1009
00:31:10,734 --> 00:31:12,767
- [Voiceover] David
1010
00:31:10,734 --> 00:31:12,767
Rohl is not the only one
1011
00:31:12,867 --> 00:31:15,600
to see a connection
1012
00:31:12,867 --> 00:31:15,600
with Joseph at Avaris.
1013
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:18,400
Mahoney went to see
1014
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:18,400
Professor Charles Aling,
1015
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:21,033
an Egyptologist who
1016
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:21,033
has also investigated
1017
00:31:21,133 --> 00:31:24,133
the events of the Exodus
1018
00:31:21,133 --> 00:31:24,133
and its connection to Egypt.
1019
00:31:24,233 --> 00:31:26,700
- Would it be unusual for
1020
00:31:24,233 --> 00:31:26,700
a tomb to have a statue?
1021
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,867
- No. It's unusual to
1022
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,867
have one this large.
1023
00:31:28,967 --> 00:31:31,000
This would be probably twice
1024
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:32,967
the size of a
1025
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:32,967
normal human being.
1026
00:31:33,066 --> 00:31:35,734
- [Tim] What does that tell
1027
00:31:33,066 --> 00:31:35,734
you when the statue's larger?
1028
00:31:35,834 --> 00:31:37,834
- That it's a very
1029
00:31:35,834 --> 00:31:37,834
important person.
1030
00:31:37,934 --> 00:31:41,567
Now of course, this is not a
1031
00:31:37,934 --> 00:31:41,567
pharaoh's tomb or a palace,
1032
00:31:41,667 --> 00:31:43,834
but the man who lived
1033
00:31:41,667 --> 00:31:43,834
there, you can identify
1034
00:31:43,934 --> 00:31:47,633
his nationality by looking at
1035
00:31:43,934 --> 00:31:47,633
the fragments of the statue.
1036
00:31:47,734 --> 00:31:50,100
Three things: the
1037
00:31:47,734 --> 00:31:50,100
hairstyle he has,
1038
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,600
which we often call
1039
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,600
the mushroom hairstyle;
1040
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:54,567
and then, secondly,
1041
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:54,567
the weapon he carries
1042
00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:56,800
over his shoulder,
1043
00:31:54,667 --> 00:31:56,800
called a throw-stick,
1044
00:31:56,900 --> 00:32:00,266
which we would associate with
1045
00:31:56,900 --> 00:32:00,266
like an Australian boomerang;
1046
00:32:00,367 --> 00:32:03,433
and then the coloration of
1047
00:32:00,367 --> 00:32:03,433
the skin, the skin is yellow.
1048
00:32:03,533 --> 00:32:05,200
All those things
1049
00:32:03,533 --> 00:32:05,200
indicate that this would
1050
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:07,533
have been a Syro-Palestinian.
1051
00:32:07,633 --> 00:32:10,734
- [Tim] Dr. Aling, do
1052
00:32:07,633 --> 00:32:10,734
you think this is Joseph?
1053
00:32:10,834 --> 00:32:13,767
- Either it is Joseph,
1054
00:32:10,834 --> 00:32:13,767
or it's somebody that has
1055
00:32:13,867 --> 00:32:17,400
a career remarkably
1056
00:32:13,867 --> 00:32:17,400
the same as Joseph did.
1057
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:19,300
It's just an incredible thing
1058
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,166
to find this at
1059
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,166
this time period.
1060
00:32:22,266 --> 00:32:26,567
(mystical music)
1061
00:32:31,333 --> 00:32:35,667
(energetic music)
1062
00:32:39,533 --> 00:32:40,900
- [Voiceover] The
1063
00:32:39,533 --> 00:32:40,900
Exodus was a story
1064
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,233
about the birth of a nation.
1065
00:32:43,333 --> 00:32:45,800
It was time for Mahoney
1066
00:32:43,333 --> 00:32:45,800
to go to Israel.
1067
00:32:48,767 --> 00:32:50,834
This gave him the
1068
00:32:48,767 --> 00:32:50,834
unique opportunity
1069
00:32:50,934 --> 00:32:54,200
to meet with Israel's
1070
00:32:50,934 --> 00:32:54,200
president, Shimon Peres,
1071
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:57,400
and hear his perspective
1072
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:57,400
about the character of Joseph
1073
00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:01,266
and his rise from slavery to
1074
00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:01,266
governing Pharaoh's court.
1075
00:33:02,667 --> 00:33:04,867
- [Tim] If you look at the
1076
00:33:02,667 --> 00:33:04,867
way the story is written,
1077
00:33:04,967 --> 00:33:06,834
God chose him for a mission?
1078
00:33:06,934 --> 00:33:09,600
- I read somewhere that
1079
00:33:06,934 --> 00:33:09,600
Tolstoy said that this is
1080
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:13,600
the greatest story ever
1081
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:13,600
published in human literature,
1082
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:18,000
the story of Joseph and his
1083
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:18,000
brothers and his going to Egypt.
1084
00:33:18,734 --> 00:33:23,734
Joseph was the first
1085
00:33:18,734 --> 00:33:23,734
Jewish advisor on Earth.
1086
00:33:24,934 --> 00:33:29,934
And he advised the most
1087
00:33:24,934 --> 00:33:29,934
powerful empire in the vicinity.
1088
00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:33,900
He conquered the heart
1089
00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:33,900
of everybody he saw,
1090
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,767
men and women.
1091
00:33:40,667 --> 00:33:44,900
- [Manis] With God's help,
1092
00:33:40,667 --> 00:33:44,900
Joseph was able to save Egypt
1093
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,367
by warning of a coming calamity.
1094
00:33:48,467 --> 00:33:50,467
Seven years of plenty
1095
00:33:48,467 --> 00:33:50,467
would be followed
1096
00:33:50,567 --> 00:33:54,000
by seven years of
1097
00:33:50,567 --> 00:33:54,000
terrible famine.
1098
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,567
Pharaoh is so impressed
1099
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,567
that he puts Joseph
1100
00:33:56,667 --> 00:33:59,800
in charge of preparing
1101
00:33:56,667 --> 00:33:59,800
for the famine,
1102
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:03,400
and makes him second in command
1103
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:03,400
over the entire country.
1104
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,533
- He managed to achieve
1105
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,533
this by foretelling
1106
00:34:06,633 --> 00:34:08,433
or explaining the
1107
00:34:06,633 --> 00:34:08,433
dreams of Pharaoh
1108
00:34:08,533 --> 00:34:11,500
about cattle coming out
1109
00:34:08,533 --> 00:34:11,500
of the water of the Nile.
1110
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,433
First of all as seven fat
1111
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,433
cows and then seven lean cows
1112
00:34:14,533 --> 00:34:16,767
come out and devour
1113
00:34:14,533 --> 00:34:16,767
the fat cows.
1114
00:34:16,867 --> 00:34:19,266
It's an extraordinary story,
1115
00:34:16,867 --> 00:34:19,266
but the clue here is that
1116
00:34:19,367 --> 00:34:21,266
these cows are coming
1117
00:34:19,367 --> 00:34:21,266
out of the Nile.
1118
00:34:21,367 --> 00:34:22,967
It's the Nile itself
1119
00:34:21,367 --> 00:34:22,967
which is the cause
1120
00:34:23,066 --> 00:34:25,467
of both the plenty
1121
00:34:23,066 --> 00:34:25,467
and the famine.
1122
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,600
- [Tim] If David's
1123
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,600
interpretation is right,
1124
00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:31,467
then the regulation of
1125
00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:31,467
the Nile may have been key
1126
00:34:31,567 --> 00:34:33,633
in planning for
1127
00:34:31,567 --> 00:34:33,633
the coming famine.
1128
00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:36,500
- [David] There's a
1129
00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:36,500
canal, or a waterway,
1130
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,800
that connects the Nile
1131
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,800
to the Fayum basin,
1132
00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:42,367
which is a large lake area,
1133
00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:42,367
which has the name Bahr Yusef,
1134
00:34:42,467 --> 00:34:44,066
which means the
1135
00:34:42,467 --> 00:34:44,066
waterway of Joseph.
1136
00:34:44,166 --> 00:34:46,600
This goes back thousands of
1137
00:34:44,166 --> 00:34:46,600
years, as far as we can tell.
1138
00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:48,934
- Why do you think that
1139
00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:48,934
that canal has that name?
1140
00:34:49,033 --> 00:34:50,300
- Because I think he made it.
1141
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,967
I think it was under
1142
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,967
his instructions,
1143
00:34:52,066 --> 00:34:54,300
as vizier of Egypt,
1144
00:34:52,066 --> 00:34:54,300
that that canal was cut.
1145
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,467
And it was cut to
1146
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,467
divert half the water
1147
00:34:56,567 --> 00:34:58,734
from the Nile into
1148
00:34:56,567 --> 00:34:58,734
the Fayum basin.
1149
00:34:58,834 --> 00:35:00,433
You then get back to
1150
00:34:58,834 --> 00:35:00,433
the situation where
1151
00:35:00,533 --> 00:35:03,667
the water levels are just
1152
00:35:00,533 --> 00:35:03,667
right for growing crops.
1153
00:35:03,767 --> 00:35:05,934
- Can you see it today?
1154
00:35:03,767 --> 00:35:05,934
- It's still in use today.
1155
00:35:06,033 --> 00:35:08,333
And the construction of
1156
00:35:06,033 --> 00:35:08,333
this water diversion system
1157
00:35:08,433 --> 00:35:10,066
is dated to the same period
1158
00:35:10,166 --> 00:35:12,500
as the early
1159
00:35:10,166 --> 00:35:12,500
settlement at Avaris.
1160
00:35:14,433 --> 00:35:16,800
- Joseph gathers
1161
00:35:14,433 --> 00:35:16,800
up all the grain
1162
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:19,934
during the seven years
1163
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:19,934
of plenty in Egypt.
1164
00:35:20,033 --> 00:35:22,533
He gathered as much as
1165
00:35:20,033 --> 00:35:22,533
the sand of the sea.
1166
00:35:25,633 --> 00:35:29,400
And then the famine comes
1167
00:35:25,633 --> 00:35:29,400
to the entire region,
1168
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:32,133
and only Egypt has bread.
1169
00:35:32,233 --> 00:35:36,900
So everyone comes to Joseph for
1170
00:35:32,233 --> 00:35:36,900
what they need for survival.
1171
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,467
When their money runs out,
1172
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,467
they sold their animals.
1173
00:35:40,567 --> 00:35:43,233
When that ran out,
1174
00:35:40,567 --> 00:35:43,233
they sold their land,
1175
00:35:43,333 --> 00:35:45,567
and eventually they
1176
00:35:43,333 --> 00:35:45,567
sold themselves.
1177
00:35:46,266 --> 00:35:48,900
So Pharaoh, by the end
1178
00:35:46,266 --> 00:35:48,900
of the seven years,
1179
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,500
owns everything in Egypt.
1180
00:35:56,633 --> 00:35:58,000
- [Voiceover] Mahoney
1181
00:35:56,633 --> 00:35:58,000
wanted to know
1182
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:00,200
if there ever was
1183
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:00,200
a time in this era
1184
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:02,100
when a dramatic shift
1185
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:02,100
of wealth and power
1186
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,600
occurred between the people
1187
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,600
of Egypt and the pharaoh.
1188
00:36:06,734 --> 00:36:07,934
He went to Pennsylvania
1189
00:36:08,033 --> 00:36:10,667
to see an archaeologist
1190
00:36:08,033 --> 00:36:10,667
who's spent many years
1191
00:36:10,767 --> 00:36:12,834
studying the Exodus
1192
00:36:10,767 --> 00:36:12,834
and the Conquest.
1193
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:15,667
His name is Dr. Bryant Wood.
1194
00:36:16,567 --> 00:36:18,567
- [Bryant] When we look
1195
00:36:16,567 --> 00:36:18,567
at Egyptian history,
1196
00:36:19,266 --> 00:36:21,600
we find something
1197
00:36:19,266 --> 00:36:21,600
very significant
1198
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:24,600
happened at this exact time.
1199
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:28,400
Egypt was divided up
1200
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:28,400
into areas called nomes,
1201
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:31,333
kind of like districts,
1202
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:31,333
all over the country.
1203
00:36:31,433 --> 00:36:34,233
And the leaders of these nomes
1204
00:36:34,333 --> 00:36:38,100
had tremendous wealth
1205
00:36:34,333 --> 00:36:38,100
and tremendous power.
1206
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,533
We get to a point
1207
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,533
in Egyptian history
1208
00:36:40,633 --> 00:36:43,500
when suddenly that all changes,
1209
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,533
and all the wealth is
1210
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,533
concentrated with the pharaoh.
1211
00:36:49,266 --> 00:36:51,700
What on earth happened here?
1212
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,300
If you read the
1213
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,300
Egyptian history books,
1214
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,300
there is no explanation for it.
1215
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,033
They don't know what
1216
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,033
happened, how it happened.
1217
00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:02,700
I mean this was a tremendous
1218
00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:02,700
socio-economic change.
1219
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,266
- Well, what do
1220
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,266
you think happened?
1221
00:37:04,367 --> 00:37:07,066
- [Bryant] Well, we have
1222
00:37:04,367 --> 00:37:07,066
the answer in the Bible,
1223
00:37:07,934 --> 00:37:09,934
and it's Joseph's famine policy,
1224
00:37:10,033 --> 00:37:13,266
and he brings the
1225
00:37:10,033 --> 00:37:13,266
wealth into Pharaoh,
1226
00:37:13,367 --> 00:37:16,433
and it fits exactly
1227
00:37:13,367 --> 00:37:16,433
with Egyptian history.
1228
00:37:17,166 --> 00:37:19,100
- [Tim] David believes
1229
00:37:17,166 --> 00:37:19,100
these events occurred
1230
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,700
during the reigns of
1231
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,700
two important Middle
1232
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,700
Kingdom pharaohs.
1233
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,133
- [David] This key time
1234
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,133
is during the co-regency
1235
00:37:25,233 --> 00:37:29,133
between Senuseret III and
1236
00:37:25,233 --> 00:37:29,133
his son, Amenemhat III.
1237
00:37:29,233 --> 00:37:31,467
I believe this is the
1238
00:37:29,233 --> 00:37:31,467
time of the famine
1239
00:37:31,567 --> 00:37:34,200
and that Amenemhat
1240
00:37:31,567 --> 00:37:34,200
was Joseph's pharaoh.
1241
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,633
Amenemhat is depicted
1242
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,633
with worry lines.
1243
00:37:37,734 --> 00:37:40,266
His ears are turned out
1244
00:37:37,734 --> 00:37:40,266
so that he can listen
1245
00:37:40,367 --> 00:37:42,233
to the concerns of the people.
1246
00:37:42,934 --> 00:37:45,567
He's not depicted in the
1247
00:37:42,934 --> 00:37:45,567
usual bland way that you see
1248
00:37:45,667 --> 00:37:48,734
on all the other statues of
1249
00:37:45,667 --> 00:37:48,734
past and future pharaohs.
1250
00:37:48,834 --> 00:37:52,400
And I think this is an
1251
00:37:48,834 --> 00:37:52,400
indication that, in his time,
1252
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:55,333
Egypt was experiencing
1253
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:55,333
serious problems.
1254
00:37:56,033 --> 00:37:58,433
And, guess what? He
1255
00:37:56,033 --> 00:37:58,433
builds his pyramid
1256
00:37:58,533 --> 00:38:02,667
right next to Bahr Yussef,
1257
00:37:58,533 --> 00:38:02,667
the "Waterway of Joseph".
1258
00:38:02,767 --> 00:38:07,367
(mystical music)
1259
00:38:08,667 --> 00:38:10,333
- [Voiceover] The amount
1260
00:38:08,667 --> 00:38:10,333
of archaeological evidence
1261
00:38:10,433 --> 00:38:13,967
matching the first step of
1262
00:38:10,433 --> 00:38:13,967
Arrival in the biblical sequence
1263
00:38:14,066 --> 00:38:16,100
seemed overwhelming to Mahoney.
1264
00:38:17,667 --> 00:38:20,166
The Syrian-styled house
1265
00:38:17,667 --> 00:38:20,166
that appeared in the Delta
1266
00:38:20,266 --> 00:38:23,033
along with a palace
1267
00:38:20,266 --> 00:38:23,033
fit for royalty
1268
00:38:23,133 --> 00:38:25,600
whose occupant was a
1269
00:38:23,133 --> 00:38:25,600
high Semitic official
1270
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:29,333
from the Canaan area, who
1271
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:29,333
wore a multicolored coat.
1272
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,233
The Waterway of Joseph,
1273
00:38:32,333 --> 00:38:34,667
contemporary with
1274
00:38:32,333 --> 00:38:34,667
the rise of Avaris.
1275
00:38:36,633 --> 00:38:40,400
The end of influence and wealth
1276
00:38:36,633 --> 00:38:40,400
for the regional governors
1277
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:43,567
as the power of Pharaoh
1278
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:43,567
reached new heights.
1279
00:38:44,667 --> 00:38:46,734
Yet these events
1280
00:38:44,667 --> 00:38:46,734
converged at a time
1281
00:38:46,834 --> 00:38:48,667
when the statues of the
1282
00:38:46,834 --> 00:38:48,667
pharaohs were depicted
1283
00:38:48,767 --> 00:38:50,967
in a unique care-worn way,
1284
00:38:51,066 --> 00:38:53,967
the tell-tale signs of
1285
00:38:51,066 --> 00:38:53,967
a kingdom in distress.
1286
00:38:57,967 --> 00:39:00,834
- Well, why is it we've
1287
00:38:57,967 --> 00:39:00,834
never heard of these finds?
1288
00:39:00,934 --> 00:39:03,367
- [David] Because in the
1289
00:39:00,934 --> 00:39:03,367
scheme that's used by scholars
1290
00:39:03,467 --> 00:39:06,133
to date all these events,
1291
00:39:03,467 --> 00:39:06,133
they're way too early.
1292
00:39:06,233 --> 00:39:08,033
They're much too early
1293
00:39:06,233 --> 00:39:08,033
to be Israelites.
1294
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,900
I'm basically saying, why
1295
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,900
not call a spade a spade?
1296
00:39:13,166 --> 00:39:15,834
- [Voiceover] At the
1297
00:39:13,166 --> 00:39:15,834
pyramid tomb of Avaris,
1298
00:39:15,934 --> 00:39:20,400
excavations revealed one other
1299
00:39:15,934 --> 00:39:20,400
important piece of evidence.
1300
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:22,066
- [David] The
1301
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:22,066
crucial clue for me,
1302
00:39:22,166 --> 00:39:23,433
which says to me that this man
1303
00:39:23,533 --> 00:39:25,333
with the multicolored
1304
00:39:23,533 --> 00:39:25,333
coat is Joseph,
1305
00:39:25,433 --> 00:39:27,166
is found in the story of Exodus.
1306
00:39:29,834 --> 00:39:31,667
When Joseph is on his deathbed,
1307
00:39:31,767 --> 00:39:33,900
he tells his brethren
1308
00:39:31,767 --> 00:39:33,900
that when they leave,
1309
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,767
they must take his body with
1310
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,767
them to the Promised Land.
1311
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:40,133
What matches the story
1312
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:40,133
even more incredibly
1313
00:39:40,233 --> 00:39:41,867
is that pyramid tomb was empty
1314
00:39:41,967 --> 00:39:43,266
when the archaeologists
1315
00:39:41,967 --> 00:39:43,266
found it.
1316
00:39:43,367 --> 00:39:45,467
There was nothing in
1317
00:39:43,367 --> 00:39:45,467
it at all apart from
1318
00:39:45,567 --> 00:39:47,467
a few fragments of
1319
00:39:45,567 --> 00:39:47,467
this smashed statue.
1320
00:39:47,567 --> 00:39:49,600
There were no bones,
1321
00:39:47,567 --> 00:39:49,600
there were no mummy beads,
1322
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:52,400
no coffin wood, nothing.
1323
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:52,400
It was cleaned out.
1324
00:39:53,767 --> 00:39:55,600
- [Tim] So it was a grave
1325
00:39:53,767 --> 00:39:55,600
robber? - Not a grave robber.
1326
00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:57,900
What grave robber is
1327
00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:57,900
going to take the bones?
1328
00:39:58,900 --> 00:40:01,033
Bones are intrinsically
1329
00:39:58,900 --> 00:40:01,033
of no value whatsoever
1330
00:40:01,133 --> 00:40:02,567
and nobody takes the bones.
1331
00:40:02,667 --> 00:40:03,867
Only people who are
1332
00:40:02,667 --> 00:40:03,867
treating the body
1333
00:40:03,967 --> 00:40:05,600
with reverence take the bones.
1334
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,000
The body was taken out
1335
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:09,667
and all the grave
1336
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:09,667
goods were taken out.
1337
00:40:09,767 --> 00:40:11,767
I think this is
1338
00:40:09,767 --> 00:40:11,767
the tomb of Joseph,
1339
00:40:11,867 --> 00:40:13,100
the pyramid tomb of Joseph,
1340
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,867
honored by Pharaoh
1341
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,867
with a colossal statue,
1342
00:40:15,967 --> 00:40:19,700
that when Moses decided to
1343
00:40:15,967 --> 00:40:19,700
take the people out of Egypt,
1344
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,033
he made sure he fulfilled
1345
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,033
that promise to Joseph,
1346
00:40:22,133 --> 00:40:24,767
to take the body out of the
1347
00:40:22,133 --> 00:40:24,767
tomb and take it to Shechem
1348
00:40:24,867 --> 00:40:26,433
and bury him in
1349
00:40:24,867 --> 00:40:26,433
the Promised Land.
1350
00:40:29,934 --> 00:40:33,100
- [Voiceover] This location,
1351
00:40:29,934 --> 00:40:33,100
photographed in the 1800s,
1352
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,033
is where many believe
1353
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,033
Joseph's bones
1354
00:40:35,133 --> 00:40:36,433
were finally laid to rest
1355
00:40:36,533 --> 00:40:38,900
in the ancient town
1356
00:40:36,533 --> 00:40:38,900
of Shechem in Canaan.
1357
00:40:40,767 --> 00:40:44,467
The city is known today as
1358
00:40:40,767 --> 00:40:44,467
Nablus on the West Bank,
1359
00:40:44,567 --> 00:40:46,500
where this tomb has
1360
00:40:44,567 --> 00:40:46,500
been at the center
1361
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,600
of much political and
1362
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,600
religious tension.
1363
00:40:52,667 --> 00:40:53,834
- [Tim] The Exodus is surrounded
1364
00:40:53,934 --> 00:40:56,166
by controversy on many levels.
1365
00:40:56,266 --> 00:40:59,533
Even David Rohl suggesting
1366
00:40:56,266 --> 00:40:59,533
specific evidence of Joseph
1367
00:40:59,633 --> 00:41:02,166
and the early Israelites'
1368
00:40:59,633 --> 00:41:02,166
arrival in Egypt
1369
00:41:02,266 --> 00:41:04,767
is archaeologically
1370
00:41:02,266 --> 00:41:04,767
controversial
1371
00:41:04,867 --> 00:41:06,266
because he looks earlier in time
1372
00:41:06,367 --> 00:41:08,800
than what is
1373
00:41:06,367 --> 00:41:08,800
conventionally accepted.
1374
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:12,533
But, at this stage,
1375
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:12,533
I didn't care.
1376
00:41:13,433 --> 00:41:15,133
I was determined to
1377
00:41:13,433 --> 00:41:15,133
stick with the guidelines
1378
00:41:15,233 --> 00:41:19,100
of the investigation, looking
1379
00:41:15,233 --> 00:41:19,100
for a pattern of evidence
1380
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,033
wherever it might exist.
1381
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:25,834
- [Voiceover] Then David
1382
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:25,834
Rohl began to tell about
1383
00:41:25,934 --> 00:41:28,667
the remarkable expansion
1384
00:41:25,934 --> 00:41:28,667
that happened at Avaris,
1385
00:41:28,767 --> 00:41:31,200
which fits the next
1386
00:41:28,767 --> 00:41:31,200
step of the sequence.
1387
00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:33,200
What the Bible describes as
1388
00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:36,166
"exceedingly great
1389
00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:36,166
multiplication."
1390
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,400
- [Manis] So Joseph dies,
1391
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:42,867
and his brothers and
1392
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:42,867
their entire generation.
1393
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,867
The Israelites are multiplying
1394
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,867
and they're fruitful,
1395
00:41:46,967 --> 00:41:50,233
exceedingly, until
1396
00:41:46,967 --> 00:41:50,233
they fill the land.
1397
00:41:50,333 --> 00:41:54,333
- We see a virgin land
1398
00:41:50,333 --> 00:41:54,333
with no population at all
1399
00:41:54,433 --> 00:41:58,633
and suddenly a small group of
1400
00:41:54,433 --> 00:41:58,633
Semitic people settle there,
1401
00:41:58,734 --> 00:42:02,433
a dozen houses or so, about
1402
00:41:58,734 --> 00:42:02,433
70 or 100 people, all told.
1403
00:42:02,533 --> 00:42:04,834
And over a period of maybe
1404
00:42:02,533 --> 00:42:04,834
three or four generations,
1405
00:42:04,934 --> 00:42:06,467
it becomes a very large city,
1406
00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:08,834
and it's one of the largest
1407
00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:08,834
cities in the ancient world.
1408
00:42:11,233 --> 00:42:15,233
This city is a city of
1409
00:42:11,233 --> 00:42:15,233
foreigners in the Egyptian delta
1410
00:42:15,333 --> 00:42:17,633
and it's been allowed
1411
00:42:15,333 --> 00:42:17,633
by the Egyptian state.
1412
00:42:17,734 --> 00:42:20,500
At this stage, there's
1413
00:42:17,734 --> 00:42:20,500
no slaves involved here.
1414
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,133
We're talking about
1415
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,133
Semitic peoples coming in,
1416
00:42:23,233 --> 00:42:26,367
living here, bringing their
1417
00:42:23,233 --> 00:42:26,367
flocks with them and surviving
1418
00:42:26,467 --> 00:42:29,133
in such a way that they
1419
00:42:26,467 --> 00:42:29,133
become quite rich and wealthy.
1420
00:42:29,233 --> 00:42:30,967
- We do know that
1421
00:42:29,233 --> 00:42:30,967
there was a large
1422
00:42:31,066 --> 00:42:33,333
Semitic-speaking population,
1423
00:42:33,433 --> 00:42:36,533
probably came in
1424
00:42:33,433 --> 00:42:36,533
from Syria, Canaan
1425
00:42:36,633 --> 00:42:40,300
sometime in the early part
1426
00:42:36,633 --> 00:42:40,300
of the second millennium BC.
1427
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,967
Their remains have been
1428
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,967
found at a number of sites.
1429
00:42:43,066 --> 00:42:47,033
We have tombs that are clearly
1430
00:42:43,066 --> 00:42:47,033
those of foreigners, Semites.
1431
00:42:47,133 --> 00:42:50,000
We can tell this by the
1432
00:42:47,133 --> 00:42:50,000
pottery, by the kind of weapons.
1433
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:51,967
These are not
1434
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:51,967
Egyptian-type daggers.
1435
00:42:52,066 --> 00:42:54,300
They have donkeys, in some
1436
00:42:52,066 --> 00:42:54,300
cases, buried with them.
1437
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,233
This was not an
1438
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,233
Egyptian practice.
1439
00:42:56,333 --> 00:42:58,867
We can't say for sure that
1440
00:42:56,333 --> 00:42:58,867
any of these were Hebrews,
1441
00:42:58,967 --> 00:43:01,400
but we probably couldn't
1442
00:42:58,967 --> 00:43:01,400
distinguish a Hebrew
1443
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:05,066
from a Canaanite in Egypt,
1444
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:05,066
culturally speaking, anyway.
1445
00:43:07,967 --> 00:43:12,533
(energetic music)
1446
00:43:17,133 --> 00:43:19,333
- [Voiceover] Mahoney
1447
00:43:17,133 --> 00:43:19,333
traveled to Bristol, England
1448
00:43:19,433 --> 00:43:21,333
to meet with a scholar
1449
00:43:19,433 --> 00:43:21,333
who had information
1450
00:43:21,433 --> 00:43:24,567
about the expansion of
1451
00:43:21,433 --> 00:43:24,567
these people in the Delta.
1452
00:43:24,667 --> 00:43:27,300
John Bimson is a
1453
00:43:24,667 --> 00:43:27,300
Professor of Old Testament
1454
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,500
at Trinity College, Bristol.
1455
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,433
He specializes in
1456
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,433
biblical history
1457
00:43:31,533 --> 00:43:33,500
and its related archaeology.
1458
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,533
Bimson sees a clear
1459
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,533
connection between
1460
00:43:35,633 --> 00:43:37,633
the growth of Semitic
1461
00:43:35,633 --> 00:43:37,633
sites in the Delta
1462
00:43:37,734 --> 00:43:39,800
and the biblical account.
1463
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:41,800
- [Tim] How many sites
1464
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:41,800
would there have been?
1465
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:45,467
- You've got a good many
1466
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:45,467
settlements, 20 or more,
1467
00:43:45,567 --> 00:43:47,066
which would fit
1468
00:43:45,567 --> 00:43:47,066
the land of Goshen,
1469
00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:49,500
where the Bible says the
1470
00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:49,500
Israelites were settled.
1471
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,734
Many of these have not
1472
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,734
been fully excavated yet.
1473
00:43:52,834 --> 00:43:54,433
- [Tim] That are similar
1474
00:43:52,834 --> 00:43:54,433
to the Avaris site?
1475
00:43:54,533 --> 00:43:56,100
- [John] We don't know
1476
00:43:54,533 --> 00:43:56,100
whether they're as big.
1477
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,700
Until people start
1478
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,700
digging there,
1479
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,700
the Avaris site, of
1480
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,700
course, no one knew
1481
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,133
how big that was until
1482
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,133
excavation began.
1483
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:06,800
So there could be a lot
1484
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:06,800
of stuff in the ground
1485
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:10,433
waiting to be discovered and
1486
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:10,433
to throw a lot more light
1487
00:44:10,533 --> 00:44:13,433
on this period of
1488
00:44:10,533 --> 00:44:13,433
Asiatic settlement.
1489
00:44:14,834 --> 00:44:16,467
- [Voiceover] The only
1490
00:44:14,834 --> 00:44:16,467
time that the archaeology
1491
00:44:16,567 --> 00:44:20,100
shows massive numbers of
1492
00:44:16,567 --> 00:44:20,100
Semites living in ancient Egypt
1493
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,400
is in this earlier period
1494
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,400
around the Middle Kingdom.
1495
00:44:24,333 --> 00:44:25,667
This is strikingly
1496
00:44:24,333 --> 00:44:25,667
different from
1497
00:44:25,767 --> 00:44:28,333
the New Kingdom and
1498
00:44:25,767 --> 00:44:28,333
the time of Ramesses,
1499
00:44:28,433 --> 00:44:31,033
when there is no
1500
00:44:28,433 --> 00:44:31,033
evidence of this.
1501
00:44:31,133 --> 00:44:33,400
- [Tim] The question is,
1502
00:44:31,133 --> 00:44:33,400
does the Middle Kingdom
1503
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:35,667
also contain evidence
1504
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:35,667
for the next step
1505
00:44:35,767 --> 00:44:38,834
of the biblical
1506
00:44:35,767 --> 00:44:38,834
sequence: "slavery"?
1507
00:44:42,166 --> 00:44:46,600
(mystical music)
1508
00:44:48,033 --> 00:44:49,300
- [Voiceover] Cecil
1509
00:44:48,033 --> 00:44:49,300
B. DeMille portrayed
1510
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,834
this slavery in two
1511
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,834
of his famous films,
1512
00:44:51,934 --> 00:44:54,233
both called The
1513
00:44:51,934 --> 00:44:54,233
Ten Commandments.
1514
00:44:54,333 --> 00:44:58,600
(mystical music)
1515
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:13,100
Although Hollywood
1516
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:13,100
likes to focus
1517
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,066
on the Israelites moving
1518
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,066
large blocks of stone,
1519
00:45:16,166 --> 00:45:18,200
the Bible never mentions this.
1520
00:45:22,066 --> 00:45:23,734
- [Manis] A new pharaoh arises,
1521
00:45:23,834 --> 00:45:25,600
and he doesn't remember Joseph.
1522
00:45:26,767 --> 00:45:29,667
He enslaves the people
1523
00:45:26,767 --> 00:45:29,667
because they're becoming
1524
00:45:29,767 --> 00:45:32,467
too numerous and
1525
00:45:29,767 --> 00:45:32,467
becoming a threat.
1526
00:45:32,567 --> 00:45:35,734
So he puts them to work
1527
00:45:32,567 --> 00:45:35,734
and embitters their lives
1528
00:45:35,834 --> 00:45:40,100
building store cities
1529
00:45:35,834 --> 00:45:40,100
of Pithom and Ramesses
1530
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,600
and makes them create
1531
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,600
bricks out of mud and straw.
1532
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,467
- [Tim] It was intriguing
1533
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,467
to see this type
1534
00:45:57,567 --> 00:46:00,166
of construction in
1535
00:45:57,567 --> 00:46:00,166
different parts of Egypt.
1536
00:46:02,133 --> 00:46:03,433
Were any of these bricks
1537
00:46:03,533 --> 00:46:06,000
molded by the hands
1538
00:46:03,533 --> 00:46:06,000
of Israelite slaves?
1539
00:46:10,934 --> 00:46:13,800
However, Mansour was
1540
00:46:10,934 --> 00:46:13,800
quick to remind me
1541
00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:16,000
that these types of
1542
00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:16,000
mud bricks are present
1543
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:17,900
throughout Egypt's history
1544
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,700
and don't prove any
1545
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,700
connection to the Israelites.
1546
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,433
But is there any
1547
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,433
slavery evidence
1548
00:46:24,533 --> 00:46:26,633
matching the Bible at Avaris,
1549
00:46:26,734 --> 00:46:29,300
the older city beneath Ramesses?
1550
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:33,700
David, what does the
1551
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:33,700
archaeological record
1552
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,500
reveal at this location?
1553
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,734
- [David] We've got a
1554
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,734
situation of prosperity
1555
00:46:37,834 --> 00:46:41,467
followed by a lack of prosperity
1556
00:46:37,834 --> 00:46:41,467
and a shortage of life.
1557
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,300
We begin to see in the
1558
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,300
graves of these people
1559
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,633
Harris Lines in the bones,
1560
00:46:46,734 --> 00:46:49,266
which indicate shortage
1561
00:46:46,734 --> 00:46:49,266
of food and nutrients.
1562
00:46:49,367 --> 00:46:51,600
These people suddenly
1563
00:46:49,367 --> 00:46:51,600
have become impoverished
1564
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:53,367
and they're dying
1565
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:53,367
at an age typically
1566
00:46:53,467 --> 00:46:55,567
of between 32 and 34 years.
1567
00:46:55,667 --> 00:46:57,266
So how do we explain that?
1568
00:46:57,367 --> 00:47:00,500
What is the mechanism
1569
00:46:57,367 --> 00:47:00,500
that we would understand
1570
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,600
why these people only
1571
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,600
lived to such a short age?
1572
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:04,667
And the obvious
1573
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:04,667
answer is slavery.
1574
00:47:04,767 --> 00:47:07,400
- The descriptions of slavery
1575
00:47:08,667 --> 00:47:12,100
was so horrible,
1576
00:47:13,333 --> 00:47:14,934
downhearted.
1577
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,033
To take a whole people
1578
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,033
and make from them
1579
00:47:19,133 --> 00:47:22,000
an inhumane group of men,
1580
00:47:22,867 --> 00:47:24,433
working so hard.
1581
00:47:25,433 --> 00:47:29,300
They wanted to free themselves.
1582
00:47:31,033 --> 00:47:33,266
- The Bible then
1583
00:47:31,033 --> 00:47:33,266
tells us that the more
1584
00:47:33,367 --> 00:47:36,934
the Hebrews were oppressed,
1585
00:47:33,367 --> 00:47:36,934
the more they multiplied
1586
00:47:37,033 --> 00:47:40,200
and the more they spread
1587
00:47:37,033 --> 00:47:40,200
throughout the land of Egypt.
1588
00:47:41,433 --> 00:47:43,166
Pharaoh gives the order
1589
00:47:43,266 --> 00:47:46,433
for all the baby
1590
00:47:43,266 --> 00:47:46,433
boys who are born
1591
00:47:46,533 --> 00:47:49,567
to be thrown into the
1592
00:47:46,533 --> 00:47:49,567
river by the Egyptians.
1593
00:47:53,700 --> 00:47:56,900
It was during this
1594
00:47:53,700 --> 00:47:56,900
time Moses is born,
1595
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,800
and in fear for his life, his
1596
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,800
mother hides him in a basket
1597
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:04,567
and floats it among the
1598
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:04,567
reeds of the river Nile.
1599
00:48:04,667 --> 00:48:06,233
(baby cries)
1600
00:48:06,333 --> 00:48:09,000
But God is watching
1601
00:48:06,333 --> 00:48:09,000
over baby Moses,
1602
00:48:09,967 --> 00:48:13,333
and Pharaoh's daughter comes
1603
00:48:09,967 --> 00:48:13,333
down to bathe in the Nile.
1604
00:48:13,433 --> 00:48:17,900
She finds him, adopts
1605
00:48:13,433 --> 00:48:17,900
him, and names him Moses,
1606
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,767
which means, "drawn
1607
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,767
from the water".
1608
00:48:22,567 --> 00:48:25,133
- [Tim] Is there anything
1609
00:48:22,567 --> 00:48:25,133
in Egyptian archaeology
1610
00:48:25,233 --> 00:48:28,300
that might reflect
1611
00:48:25,233 --> 00:48:28,300
this biblical detail,
1612
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,934
the killing of
1613
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,934
Hebrew infant boys?
1614
00:48:33,066 --> 00:48:34,867
- [David] At this particular
1615
00:48:33,066 --> 00:48:34,867
point, we start to see
1616
00:48:34,967 --> 00:48:37,867
an increase in the number of
1617
00:48:34,967 --> 00:48:37,867
infant burials at the site.
1618
00:48:37,967 --> 00:48:41,700
Now normally, in a typical
1619
00:48:37,967 --> 00:48:41,700
Middle Bronze Age cemetery,
1620
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,467
we'll get something like
1621
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,467
25% of burials of infants.
1622
00:48:45,567 --> 00:48:47,367
In this particular case,
1623
00:48:45,567 --> 00:48:47,367
the figure jumps up
1624
00:48:47,467 --> 00:48:49,133
to an extraordinary figure.
1625
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:53,433
- [Tim] David directed me to
1626
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:53,433
the dig reports from Avaris,
1627
00:48:53,533 --> 00:48:56,166
where Bietak's team referred
1628
00:48:53,533 --> 00:48:56,166
to what they called,
1629
00:48:56,266 --> 00:48:59,934
"an extremely high
1630
00:48:56,266 --> 00:48:59,934
mortality rate of newborns."
1631
00:49:00,033 --> 00:49:01,834
When all the children's graves
1632
00:49:01,934 --> 00:49:04,467
aged 10 and younger
1633
00:49:01,934 --> 00:49:04,467
were identified,
1634
00:49:04,567 --> 00:49:07,000
it was found that
1635
00:49:04,567 --> 00:49:07,000
nearly 50% died
1636
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:09,266
in the first three
1637
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:09,266
months of life.
1638
00:49:10,066 --> 00:49:12,867
Okay, maybe this
1639
00:49:10,066 --> 00:49:12,867
was just an epidemic
1640
00:49:12,967 --> 00:49:15,200
that hit the newborns
1641
00:49:12,967 --> 00:49:15,200
especially hard.
1642
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:18,000
But when the graves
1643
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:18,000
of those who made it
1644
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:20,767
to adulthood were
1645
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:20,767
examined, it was seen
1646
00:49:20,867 --> 00:49:24,867
that there were 60%
1647
00:49:20,867 --> 00:49:24,867
females to 40% males.
1648
00:49:25,667 --> 00:49:27,133
The reduction
1649
00:49:25,667 --> 00:49:27,133
appears to have been
1650
00:49:27,233 --> 00:49:30,000
in the male side
1651
00:49:27,233 --> 00:49:30,000
of the population.
1652
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:32,934
So could this massive
1653
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:32,934
increase in infant burials
1654
00:49:33,033 --> 00:49:35,400
at Avaris be evidence
1655
00:49:33,033 --> 00:49:35,400
for the killing
1656
00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:38,166
of the male Israelite children?
1657
00:49:42,834 --> 00:49:44,300
It's an intriguing thought,
1658
00:49:44,967 --> 00:49:47,700
but it made me sad to think
1659
00:49:44,967 --> 00:49:47,700
of what it could have meant,
1660
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:51,066
the murder of thousands
1661
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:51,066
of innocent boys.
1662
00:49:51,767 --> 00:49:56,400
(guitar music)
1663
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,133
- [Voiceover] For
1664
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,133
generations, the Exodus story
1665
00:50:02,233 --> 00:50:04,433
has given hope to
1666
00:50:02,233 --> 00:50:04,433
people around the world
1667
00:50:04,533 --> 00:50:06,867
in their quest for liberation,
1668
00:50:06,967 --> 00:50:09,000
inspired by the
1669
00:50:06,967 --> 00:50:09,000
freeing of the slaves
1670
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:11,700
from the most powerful
1671
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:11,700
nation on earth.
1672
00:50:13,867 --> 00:50:16,166
But were the hopes and
1673
00:50:13,867 --> 00:50:16,166
dreams of all those people
1674
00:50:16,266 --> 00:50:18,367
merely based on a myth?
1675
00:50:20,533 --> 00:50:21,867
- [James] Who would
1676
00:50:20,533 --> 00:50:21,867
invent a story
1677
00:50:21,967 --> 00:50:24,767
about our ancestors were slaves?
1678
00:50:24,867 --> 00:50:28,166
I bet just, you know, I
1679
00:50:24,867 --> 00:50:28,166
can see people saying,
1680
00:50:28,266 --> 00:50:30,166
"Our ancestors were princes.
1681
00:50:30,266 --> 00:50:32,200
"Our ancestors were
1682
00:50:30,266 --> 00:50:32,200
great merchants.
1683
00:50:32,300 --> 00:50:35,066
"Our ancestors were
1684
00:50:32,300 --> 00:50:35,066
something wonderful
1685
00:50:35,166 --> 00:50:36,900
"and glorious and noble,"
1686
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,433
But, "We were slaves."? Why?
1687
00:50:40,533 --> 00:50:41,900
I mean, if you are going
1688
00:50:40,533 --> 00:50:41,900
to dream up a story,
1689
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,133
surely you'd come up with
1690
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,133
a better one than that.
1691
00:50:45,967 --> 00:50:47,467
- [Tim] And if none
1692
00:50:45,967 --> 00:50:47,467
of it happened,
1693
00:50:47,567 --> 00:50:49,800
how do you explain
1694
00:50:47,567 --> 00:50:49,800
an Egyptian papyrus
1695
00:50:49,900 --> 00:50:52,166
with a list of slave
1696
00:50:49,900 --> 00:50:52,166
names that seem to come
1697
00:50:52,266 --> 00:50:54,567
right out of the
1698
00:50:52,266 --> 00:50:54,567
pages of the Bible?
1699
00:50:57,133 --> 00:50:59,500
- There's one particular
1700
00:50:57,133 --> 00:50:59,500
document which is quite amazing.
1701
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,900
It's called the Brooklyn
1702
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,900
Papyrus and this actually
1703
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,934
is a list of domestic
1704
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,934
servants from one estate.
1705
00:51:06,033 --> 00:51:09,800
We have maybe up to 100 people
1706
00:51:06,033 --> 00:51:09,800
listed as slaves in Egypt.
1707
00:51:10,667 --> 00:51:12,000
When we look at those names,
1708
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:14,533
70% of them are Semitic names,
1709
00:51:15,367 --> 00:51:18,367
and you can literally pick
1710
00:51:15,367 --> 00:51:18,367
off Israelite names in there:
1711
00:51:18,467 --> 00:51:22,233
Menahem; Issachar
1712
00:51:18,467 --> 00:51:22,233
and Asher, the names
1713
00:51:22,333 --> 00:51:24,367
of two of the tribes of Israel;
1714
00:51:24,467 --> 00:51:28,467
Shiphrah, one of the Hebrew
1715
00:51:24,467 --> 00:51:28,467
midwives in the Exodus story,
1716
00:51:28,567 --> 00:51:30,967
a name that appears
1717
00:51:28,567 --> 00:51:30,967
in this document.
1718
00:51:32,367 --> 00:51:35,200
These are Hebrew,
1719
00:51:32,367 --> 00:51:35,200
Israelite slaves
1720
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:38,400
and they're in a papyrus
1721
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:38,400
from the 13th Dynasty.
1722
00:51:38,500 --> 00:51:40,667
Not from the 19th
1723
00:51:38,500 --> 00:51:40,667
Dynasty, not from the time
1724
00:51:40,767 --> 00:51:43,000
of Ramesses II in
1725
00:51:40,767 --> 00:51:43,000
the New Kingdom,
1726
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:46,967
but from the 13th Dynasty,
1727
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:46,967
the Middle Kingdom.
1728
00:51:47,066 --> 00:51:48,800
- What does this mean to you?
1729
00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:50,233
What does it say?
1730
00:51:50,333 --> 00:51:53,133
- This is real
1731
00:51:50,333 --> 00:51:53,133
evidence for the time
1732
00:51:53,233 --> 00:51:56,667
when the Israelites
1733
00:51:53,233 --> 00:51:56,667
were in Egypt as slaves.
1734
00:51:56,767 --> 00:51:58,633
It's when you get a text,
1735
00:51:58,734 --> 00:52:00,300
suddenly you've got history.
1736
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,166
Archaeology, you
1737
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,166
have to interpret.
1738
00:52:02,266 --> 00:52:05,066
When you have a text, this
1739
00:52:02,266 --> 00:52:05,066
is something very different.
1740
00:52:05,934 --> 00:52:09,066
- [Voiceover] This slave
1741
00:52:05,934 --> 00:52:09,066
list is predominantly female,
1742
00:52:09,166 --> 00:52:11,900
which matches the grave
1743
00:52:09,166 --> 00:52:11,900
evidence from Avaris.
1744
00:52:14,533 --> 00:52:17,266
- [Manis] The fact that
1745
00:52:14,533 --> 00:52:17,266
they continued to multiply
1746
00:52:17,367 --> 00:52:20,033
despite the oppression,
1747
00:52:17,367 --> 00:52:20,033
despite the slavery,
1748
00:52:20,133 --> 00:52:22,600
despite the boys being killed,
1749
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:26,767
it just shows that there was
1750
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:26,767
a divine plan here at work
1751
00:52:26,867 --> 00:52:29,367
and that this whole
1752
00:52:26,867 --> 00:52:29,367
event was miraculous.
1753
00:52:35,533 --> 00:52:36,934
- [Tim] The thing
1754
00:52:35,533 --> 00:52:36,934
that I'm puzzled by is
1755
00:52:37,033 --> 00:52:40,734
why so many Egyptologists
1756
00:52:37,033 --> 00:52:40,734
ignore the Brooklyn Papyrus.
1757
00:52:40,834 --> 00:52:42,400
- Although everybody recognizes
1758
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:44,800
that this list is a
1759
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:44,800
list of Semitic slaves,
1760
00:52:44,900 --> 00:52:47,066
and everybody recognizes that
1761
00:52:44,900 --> 00:52:47,066
the names appearing in here
1762
00:52:47,166 --> 00:52:50,367
are also Israelite names,
1763
00:52:47,166 --> 00:52:50,367
these can't be the Israelites,
1764
00:52:50,467 --> 00:52:51,967
because it's the
1765
00:52:50,467 --> 00:52:51,967
wrong time period.
1766
00:52:52,066 --> 00:52:53,900
The Israelites are
1767
00:52:52,066 --> 00:52:53,900
much later in history.
1768
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,367
So these people
1769
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,367
we're seeing here
1770
00:52:55,467 --> 00:52:58,133
in this Brooklyn Papyrus
1771
00:52:55,467 --> 00:52:58,133
cannot be the Israelites.
1772
00:52:58,233 --> 00:52:59,934
- So that's why
1773
00:52:58,233 --> 00:52:59,934
they disregard it?
1774
00:53:00,033 --> 00:53:01,600
- So they put it to one side
1775
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:04,033
and say it's
1776
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:04,033
another coincidence.
1777
00:53:10,367 --> 00:53:12,433
- [Voiceover] So there
1778
00:53:10,367 --> 00:53:12,433
appears to be strong evidence
1779
00:53:12,533 --> 00:53:15,266
matching the Multiplication
1780
00:53:12,533 --> 00:53:15,266
and Slavery steps
1781
00:53:15,367 --> 00:53:17,233
of the biblical sequence.
1782
00:53:18,467 --> 00:53:20,300
Indication of a rapid expansion
1783
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,266
of the Semitic
1784
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,266
population at Avaris,
1785
00:53:23,367 --> 00:53:25,867
the only time in Egyptian
1786
00:53:23,367 --> 00:53:25,867
history that there is evidence
1787
00:53:25,967 --> 00:53:28,834
of Semites dominating
1788
00:53:25,967 --> 00:53:28,834
the Delta like this.
1789
00:53:29,633 --> 00:53:33,100
These Semites begin free,
1790
00:53:29,633 --> 00:53:33,100
powerful and prosperous,
1791
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,467
but then succumb to
1792
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,467
impoverishment and malnutrition.
1793
00:53:37,367 --> 00:53:40,567
There is a sharp rise in the
1794
00:53:37,367 --> 00:53:40,567
number of infant burials.
1795
00:53:40,667 --> 00:53:43,333
Near the end of this period
1796
00:53:40,667 --> 00:53:43,333
comes a list of slaves,
1797
00:53:43,433 --> 00:53:45,367
many with Hebrew names.
1798
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:49,900
And all this occurring
1799
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:49,900
400 years earlier
1800
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,033
than would be expected
1801
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,033
with the Ramesses Exodus.
1802
00:53:54,867 --> 00:53:56,200
- [Tim] But what
1803
00:53:54,867 --> 00:53:56,200
if all these finds
1804
00:53:56,300 --> 00:53:58,667
in the Middle Kingdom
1805
00:53:56,300 --> 00:53:58,667
are not a coincidence
1806
00:53:58,767 --> 00:54:00,734
and the Exodus
1807
00:53:58,767 --> 00:54:00,734
actually did happen
1808
00:54:00,834 --> 00:54:03,834
much earlier than the
1809
00:54:00,834 --> 00:54:03,834
reign of Ramesses?
1810
00:54:03,934 --> 00:54:05,266
To see if that's the case,
1811
00:54:05,367 --> 00:54:06,934
I would need to
1812
00:54:05,367 --> 00:54:06,934
look more closely
1813
00:54:07,033 --> 00:54:09,633
at the details of the
1814
00:54:07,033 --> 00:54:09,633
biblical story concerning
1815
00:54:09,734 --> 00:54:13,300
the next step of the sequence;
1816
00:54:09,734 --> 00:54:13,300
the judgment of Egypt
1817
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,133
and the Israelites'
1818
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,133
deliverance from bondage.
1819
00:54:16,233 --> 00:54:20,500
(somber music)
1820
00:54:25,066 --> 00:54:26,400
- [Voiceover] The Bible
1821
00:54:25,066 --> 00:54:26,400
records that Moses
1822
00:54:26,500 --> 00:54:28,367
fled to the land of Midian.
1823
00:54:30,233 --> 00:54:32,633
After 40 years of
1824
00:54:30,233 --> 00:54:32,633
living as a shepherd,
1825
00:54:33,433 --> 00:54:35,667
Moses first encountered God.
1826
00:54:36,533 --> 00:54:39,133
(sheep bleating)
1827
00:54:40,367 --> 00:54:42,867
- [Manis] Moses sees a
1828
00:54:40,367 --> 00:54:42,867
bush from the distance,
1829
00:54:42,967 --> 00:54:46,300
and it's on fire, but
1830
00:54:42,967 --> 00:54:46,300
it's not being consumed.
1831
00:54:47,266 --> 00:54:51,100
So, curious, he approaches
1832
00:54:47,266 --> 00:54:51,100
to see what's going on
1833
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,600
and God says, "Don't
1834
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,600
come any closer.
1835
00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:57,533
"Remove your shoes, for
1836
00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:57,533
this place is a holy place."
1837
00:55:00,767 --> 00:55:03,734
God said, "I have surely
1838
00:55:00,767 --> 00:55:03,734
seen the oppression
1839
00:55:03,834 --> 00:55:06,000
"of my people who are in Egypt,
1840
00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:08,467
"and I have also
1841
00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:08,467
heard their cry."
1842
00:55:08,567 --> 00:55:12,200
Like a shepherd rescuing his
1843
00:55:08,567 --> 00:55:12,200
sheep, God commands Moses
1844
00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:15,333
to go back to Egypt
1845
00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:15,333
and tell Pharaoh,
1846
00:55:15,433 --> 00:55:18,567
"Let My people go, so
1847
00:55:15,433 --> 00:55:18,567
that they may serve Me."
1848
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,767
Moses comes to Pharaoh.
1849
00:55:21,867 --> 00:55:26,300
Pharaoh does not listen,
1850
00:55:21,867 --> 00:55:26,300
refuses to let the people go,
1851
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,834
and God sends the
1852
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,834
first of a series
1853
00:55:28,934 --> 00:55:32,600
of spectacular plagues
1854
00:55:28,934 --> 00:55:32,600
against the land of Egypt.
1855
00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:35,800
(thunder cracks)
1856
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:37,033
(frogs croak)
1857
00:55:37,133 --> 00:55:38,800
(insects buzz)
1858
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:40,633
(thunder cracks)
1859
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:47,667
- [James] In Exodus chapter 5,
1860
00:55:47,767 --> 00:55:50,300
the God of Israel says,
1861
00:55:47,767 --> 00:55:50,300
"Let my people go."
1862
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:51,734
Pharaoh says, "Who is the Lord?
1863
00:55:51,834 --> 00:55:53,700
"Who is Jehovah, who is Yahweh
1864
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,166
"that I should listen to him?"
1865
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:59,333
And so we have setting
1866
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:59,333
up there this contest.
1867
00:55:59,433 --> 00:56:01,567
Who really is the
1868
00:55:59,433 --> 00:56:01,567
god to be obeyed?
1869
00:56:01,667 --> 00:56:04,233
Who is the one in
1870
00:56:01,667 --> 00:56:04,233
control of things?
1871
00:56:04,333 --> 00:56:06,100
And, in the Egyptian
1872
00:56:04,333 --> 00:56:06,100
view of things,
1873
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,333
Pharaoh was the god
1874
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,333
of the Egyptian state.
1875
00:56:08,433 --> 00:56:10,700
He was responsible
1876
00:56:08,433 --> 00:56:10,700
for cosmic order.
1877
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,367
He was responsible for the
1878
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,367
proper flow of the Nile,
1879
00:56:13,467 --> 00:56:15,000
the rising of the sun,
1880
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:17,667
the fertility of the
1881
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:17,667
fields and so on.
1882
00:56:17,767 --> 00:56:21,066
And now we have the God of
1883
00:56:17,767 --> 00:56:21,066
Israel, the God of Creation,
1884
00:56:21,166 --> 00:56:23,367
of the Bible, who's saying,
1885
00:56:21,166 --> 00:56:23,367
"Now, wait a minute.
1886
00:56:23,467 --> 00:56:24,800
"That's not what you do.
1887
00:56:24,900 --> 00:56:27,233
"I'm the one who controls
1888
00:56:24,900 --> 00:56:27,233
all these things."
1889
00:56:27,333 --> 00:56:28,867
So He begins with the Nile
1890
00:56:28,967 --> 00:56:31,467
and ends in the ninth
1891
00:56:28,967 --> 00:56:31,467
plague with the sun.
1892
00:56:31,567 --> 00:56:34,633
And these two things that
1893
00:56:31,567 --> 00:56:34,633
Pharaoh is said to control
1894
00:56:34,734 --> 00:56:36,967
are completely outside
1895
00:56:34,734 --> 00:56:36,967
of his control.
1896
00:56:38,734 --> 00:56:40,533
- [Manis] God protected
1897
00:56:38,734 --> 00:56:40,533
the children of Israel
1898
00:56:40,633 --> 00:56:43,233
from these plagues, while
1899
00:56:40,633 --> 00:56:43,233
the rest of the land
1900
00:56:43,333 --> 00:56:45,567
was being devastated by them.
1901
00:56:45,667 --> 00:56:49,500
To where Pharaoh's servants
1902
00:56:45,667 --> 00:56:49,500
themselves pleaded with him,
1903
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,633
saying that this was
1904
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,633
the finger of God
1905
00:56:52,734 --> 00:56:54,934
and that Egypt was being ruined.
1906
00:56:55,033 --> 00:56:57,033
But Pharaoh would not relent.
1907
00:56:57,133 --> 00:56:58,700
He knew that Egypt depended
1908
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,333
on the work of these
1909
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,333
foreign slaves.
1910
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,166
- [Voiceover] In Israel,
1911
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,166
Mahoney also had the privilege
1912
00:57:09,266 --> 00:57:11,734
to speak with the
1913
00:57:09,266 --> 00:57:11,734
Prime Minister.
1914
00:57:11,834 --> 00:57:14,333
Although seen by most
1915
00:57:11,834 --> 00:57:14,333
as a political figure,
1916
00:57:14,433 --> 00:57:17,033
Benjamin Netanyahu
1917
00:57:14,433 --> 00:57:17,033
was also an author
1918
00:57:17,133 --> 00:57:19,567
and historian, like his father.
1919
00:57:19,667 --> 00:57:22,400
- [Tim] Tell me about the
1920
00:57:19,667 --> 00:57:22,400
effect the Exodus has had
1921
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:27,166
upon civilizations in
1922
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:27,166
the last 3,000 years.
1923
00:57:27,266 --> 00:57:30,700
- Moses was the greatest
1924
00:57:27,266 --> 00:57:30,700
revolutionary of all time.
1925
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,033
Remember that in antiquity
1926
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,033
there were grand empires
1927
00:57:34,133 --> 00:57:38,967
that were based on one
1928
00:57:34,133 --> 00:57:38,967
principle and that is slavery,
1929
00:57:39,066 --> 00:57:42,667
and Moses challenged that twice.
1930
00:57:43,266 --> 00:57:47,033
He challenged it by taking
1931
00:57:43,266 --> 00:57:47,033
his people who were slaves
1932
00:57:47,133 --> 00:57:49,834
in bondage in Egypt
1933
00:57:47,133 --> 00:57:49,834
and freed them
1934
00:57:49,934 --> 00:57:52,033
and took them to
1935
00:57:49,934 --> 00:57:52,033
their Promised Land.
1936
00:57:52,133 --> 00:57:55,266
But he also challenged
1937
00:57:52,133 --> 00:57:55,266
it by providing a code,
1938
00:57:55,367 --> 00:57:57,700
a moral code for
1939
00:57:55,367 --> 00:57:57,700
mankind that said
1940
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,667
that it is not the
1941
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,667
king or the emperor
1942
00:58:01,767 --> 00:58:04,300
that decides the law,
1943
00:58:01,767 --> 00:58:04,300
there's a higher law
1944
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,133
and these were absolutely
1945
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,133
revolutionary ideas.
1946
00:58:07,233 --> 00:58:11,600
(suspenseful music)
1947
00:58:12,934 --> 00:58:14,800
- [Voiceover] The text
1948
00:58:12,934 --> 00:58:14,800
then says that God sent
1949
00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:18,734
the tenth and final plague
1950
00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:18,734
to force Pharaoh's hand:
1951
00:58:19,700 --> 00:58:24,266
the death of the firstborn
1952
00:58:19,700 --> 00:58:24,266
of man and beast.
1953
00:58:28,533 --> 00:58:30,800
The Lord told the Israelites
1954
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:33,567
that each household
1955
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:33,567
was to slaughter a lamb
1956
00:58:34,500 --> 00:58:37,834
and mark the doorposts
1957
00:58:34,500 --> 00:58:37,834
with the blood of the lamb.
1958
00:58:40,066 --> 00:58:41,867
And on that horrible night,
1959
00:58:41,967 --> 00:58:45,734
death passed over all the
1960
00:58:41,967 --> 00:58:45,734
homes marked with blood.
1961
00:58:48,533 --> 00:58:51,000
But in every home
1962
00:58:48,533 --> 00:58:51,000
that wasn't marked,
1963
00:58:51,100 --> 00:58:53,867
all the firstborn males died.
1964
00:58:53,967 --> 00:58:55,233
(loud crying and wailing)
1965
00:58:55,333 --> 00:58:58,900
There was crying and wailing
1966
00:58:55,333 --> 00:58:58,900
in every Egyptian home
1967
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,233
because each family
1968
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,233
had lost someone.
1969
00:59:05,266 --> 00:59:07,033
- [Manis] The tenth plague,
1970
00:59:07,133 --> 00:59:09,834
the death of the firstborn,
1971
00:59:07,133 --> 00:59:09,834
affected everybody.
1972
00:59:10,567 --> 00:59:15,000
Even Pharaoh's firstborn
1973
00:59:10,567 --> 00:59:15,000
died that night,
1974
00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:17,533
and the will of the
1975
00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:17,533
people, the Egyptians,
1976
00:59:17,633 --> 00:59:19,133
was completely shattered.
1977
00:59:21,033 --> 00:59:25,066
The tenth plague broke
1978
00:59:21,033 --> 00:59:25,066
Pharaoh's defiance of God,
1979
00:59:25,166 --> 00:59:28,233
and he finally let
1980
00:59:25,166 --> 00:59:28,233
Moses and the people go.
1981
00:59:29,633 --> 00:59:31,900
But then, Pharaoh
1982
00:59:29,633 --> 00:59:31,900
changes his mind,
1983
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,600
pursues the Israelites
1984
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,600
with his army,
1985
00:59:34,700 --> 00:59:38,066
and, at the sea,
1986
00:59:34,700 --> 00:59:38,066
God parts the waters
1987
00:59:38,166 --> 00:59:40,867
so that the
1988
00:59:38,166 --> 00:59:40,867
Israelites can escape,
1989
00:59:40,967 --> 00:59:43,300
while it destroys the
1990
00:59:40,967 --> 00:59:43,300
entire Egyptian army.
1991
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,567
(suspenseful music)
1992
01:00:08,233 --> 01:00:12,734
(somber music)
1993
01:00:26,433 --> 01:00:28,500
- [Voiceover] Every
1994
01:00:26,433 --> 01:00:28,500
year, Jewish families
1995
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,266
from around the world
1996
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,266
celebrate the deliverance
1997
01:00:31,367 --> 01:00:35,100
of Israel from Egypt
1998
01:00:31,367 --> 01:00:35,100
during the Passover feast.
1999
01:00:39,834 --> 01:00:42,100
Records confirm
2000
01:00:39,834 --> 01:00:42,100
that the Passover
2001
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,600
has been observed for
2002
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,600
thousands of years.
2003
01:00:45,467 --> 01:00:47,166
Many believe it is
2004
01:00:45,467 --> 01:00:47,166
difficult to explain
2005
01:00:47,266 --> 01:00:49,367
the origin of
2006
01:00:47,266 --> 01:00:49,367
Passover if there were
2007
01:00:49,467 --> 01:00:52,100
no real event on
2008
01:00:49,467 --> 01:00:52,100
which it was based.
2009
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,600
(somber music)
2010
01:01:07,700 --> 01:01:09,667
While in Jerusalem,
2011
01:01:07,700 --> 01:01:09,667
Mahoney went to speak
2012
01:01:09,767 --> 01:01:11,567
with Rabbi David Hartman,
2013
01:01:11,667 --> 01:01:14,467
the founder of the
2014
01:01:11,667 --> 01:01:14,467
Shalom Hartman Institute.
2015
01:01:14,567 --> 01:01:16,333
- [David] Each
2016
01:01:14,567 --> 01:01:16,333
year, we celebrate
2017
01:01:16,433 --> 01:01:18,600
the Exodus as if we were there.
2018
01:01:19,233 --> 01:01:20,967
We were slaves to
2019
01:01:19,233 --> 01:01:20,967
Pharaoh in Egypt
2020
01:01:21,066 --> 01:01:24,734
and we dramatically
2021
01:01:21,066 --> 01:01:24,734
celebrate the Passover Seder
2022
01:01:24,834 --> 01:01:27,333
as if we are participants.
2023
01:01:27,433 --> 01:01:30,900
So there's always a renewal,
2024
01:01:27,433 --> 01:01:30,900
always a renewed giving,
2025
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,700
a new spirit into the
2026
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,700
Passover Exodus story.
2027
01:01:36,467 --> 01:01:38,100
Because in remembering
2028
01:01:36,467 --> 01:01:38,100
the Exodus,
2029
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,767
we remember that in the
2030
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,767
dark conditions of history,
2031
01:01:42,867 --> 01:01:46,600
God, the Lord, had in
2032
01:01:42,867 --> 01:01:46,600
some way made possible,
2033
01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:49,233
through Moses, our liberation.
2034
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,967
- [Voiceover] But
2035
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,967
what about those
2036
01:01:52,066 --> 01:01:54,633
who think the Exodus
2037
01:01:52,066 --> 01:01:54,633
never happened?
2038
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:59,367
Noted Israeli archaeologist,
2039
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:59,367
Israel Finkelstein,
2040
01:01:59,467 --> 01:02:03,633
specializes in the ancient
2041
01:01:59,467 --> 01:02:03,633
history of the land of Israel.
2042
01:02:03,734 --> 01:02:06,567
In his influential book,
2043
01:02:03,734 --> 01:02:06,567
The Bible Unearthed,
2044
01:02:06,667 --> 01:02:09,033
he has argued that the
2045
01:02:06,667 --> 01:02:09,033
Exodus did not happen
2046
01:02:09,133 --> 01:02:11,367
in the manner
2047
01:02:09,133 --> 01:02:11,367
described in the Bible.
2048
01:02:12,066 --> 01:02:15,200
He proposes that it was based
2049
01:02:12,066 --> 01:02:15,200
on vague memories of events,
2050
01:02:15,300 --> 01:02:18,633
written down for political
2051
01:02:15,300 --> 01:02:18,633
motives centuries later.
2052
01:02:18,734 --> 01:02:21,033
- Do you believe in
2053
01:02:18,734 --> 01:02:21,033
celebrating the Passover?
2054
01:02:21,133 --> 01:02:24,633
- Sure, celebrating the
2055
01:02:21,133 --> 01:02:24,633
Passover? Definitely.
2056
01:02:24,734 --> 01:02:29,567
I think that I make a
2057
01:02:24,734 --> 01:02:29,567
distinction in my private life,
2058
01:02:29,667 --> 01:02:33,867
in my life as a scholar, in
2059
01:02:29,667 --> 01:02:33,867
my life as part of a family.
2060
01:02:33,967 --> 01:02:35,834
I make a very clear distinction
2061
01:02:35,934 --> 01:02:38,133
between scholarship
2062
01:02:35,934 --> 01:02:38,133
and tradition.
2063
01:02:38,233 --> 01:02:40,533
- When I sit at
2064
01:02:38,233 --> 01:02:40,533
the Passover meal
2065
01:02:40,633 --> 01:02:42,700
and we read the
2066
01:02:40,633 --> 01:02:42,700
Haggadah with the family
2067
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,567
that evening it's all
2068
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,567
history from A to Z;
2069
01:02:47,333 --> 01:02:48,700
perfect history.
2070
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,266
Because history is not only
2071
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,266
about the time of Moses,
2072
01:02:52,367 --> 01:02:53,734
let's say, okay?
2073
01:02:53,834 --> 01:02:56,667
History is also
2074
01:02:53,834 --> 01:02:56,667
about all those many
2075
01:02:56,767 --> 01:02:59,100
generations of my forefathers
2076
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,600
who were sitting to the
2077
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,600
same table in Passover
2078
01:03:01,700 --> 01:03:04,967
in the same time and
2079
01:03:01,700 --> 01:03:04,967
reciting the Haggadah
2080
01:03:05,066 --> 01:03:06,467
This is also history.
2081
01:03:06,567 --> 01:03:09,734
And so, which means that I
2082
01:03:06,567 --> 01:03:09,734
am part of something bigger,
2083
01:03:09,834 --> 01:03:12,300
which goes on and on and
2084
01:03:09,834 --> 01:03:12,300
on for many generations
2085
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,066
and this is important for me.
2086
01:03:14,166 --> 01:03:16,700
So yes, the answer
2087
01:03:14,166 --> 01:03:16,700
is that there is
2088
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,266
a clear distinction
2089
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,266
between the two.
2090
01:03:19,367 --> 01:03:20,834
- [Tim] What do
2091
01:03:19,367 --> 01:03:20,834
you say to people
2092
01:03:20,934 --> 01:03:22,834
who are concerned with the idea
2093
01:03:22,934 --> 01:03:25,767
that these stories didn't
2094
01:03:22,934 --> 01:03:25,767
happen as they were written?
2095
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,066
- I would tell them that
2096
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,066
this in not important.
2097
01:03:29,166 --> 01:03:31,533
Whether the stories,
2098
01:03:29,166 --> 01:03:31,533
whether the things happened
2099
01:03:31,633 --> 01:03:34,233
exactly in that way
2100
01:03:31,633 --> 01:03:34,233
in not important.
2101
01:03:34,333 --> 01:03:36,066
I think that it is
2102
01:03:34,333 --> 01:03:36,066
more important to
2103
01:03:36,166 --> 01:03:39,000
understand the
2104
01:03:36,166 --> 01:03:39,000
meaning of Exodus,
2105
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:41,533
the moral of Exodus.
2106
01:03:41,633 --> 01:03:43,000
- [Tim] Rabbi Wolpe has said
2107
01:03:43,100 --> 01:03:45,000
that Professor
2108
01:03:43,100 --> 01:03:45,000
Finkelstein's work
2109
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:47,300
has greatly influenced
2110
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:47,300
his thinking.
2111
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,667
- The idea of the Exodus
2112
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,667
and the Revelation,
2113
01:03:49,767 --> 01:03:50,834
however you configure it,
2114
01:03:50,934 --> 01:03:53,133
it is central to the
2115
01:03:50,934 --> 01:03:53,133
Jewish tradition.
2116
01:03:53,233 --> 01:03:56,400
But I think that doesn't
2117
01:03:53,233 --> 01:03:56,400
mean that you have to believe
2118
01:03:56,500 --> 01:03:59,934
that the Torah gives a
2119
01:03:56,500 --> 01:03:59,934
historical account of it.
2120
01:04:00,033 --> 01:04:03,233
I don't think the Torah
2121
01:04:00,033 --> 01:04:03,233
is a book of facts.
2122
01:04:03,333 --> 01:04:05,100
It's a book of meaning.
2123
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,400
- [Tim] However, John Bimson
2124
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,400
shared a very different view.
2125
01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:11,633
- [John] History and theology
2126
01:04:11,734 --> 01:04:14,066
are tightly intertwined
2127
01:04:11,734 --> 01:04:14,066
in the Bible.
2128
01:04:14,166 --> 01:04:16,934
If you took away the
2129
01:04:14,166 --> 01:04:16,934
historical basis,
2130
01:04:17,033 --> 01:04:19,066
then you've really deprived it
2131
01:04:19,166 --> 01:04:21,233
of a lot of its
2132
01:04:19,166 --> 01:04:21,233
theological truth.
2133
01:04:21,333 --> 01:04:24,133
So much of what the
2134
01:04:21,333 --> 01:04:24,133
Old Testament says
2135
01:04:24,233 --> 01:04:27,166
about the character of
2136
01:04:24,233 --> 01:04:27,166
God and His purposes
2137
01:04:27,266 --> 01:04:29,834
in calling Israel
2138
01:04:27,266 --> 01:04:29,834
are intertwined
2139
01:04:29,934 --> 01:04:34,400
with this story of these
2140
01:04:29,934 --> 01:04:34,400
people coming out of Egypt
2141
01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:36,300
and entering the Promised Land.
2142
01:04:37,033 --> 01:04:38,133
So history and theology
2143
01:04:38,233 --> 01:04:40,166
are tightly intertwined
2144
01:04:38,233 --> 01:04:40,166
in the Bible.
2145
01:04:42,567 --> 01:04:44,600
- [Tim] After more than
2146
01:04:42,567 --> 01:04:44,600
a decade of searching,
2147
01:04:45,433 --> 01:04:47,667
this is what it comes down to.
2148
01:04:47,767 --> 01:04:49,834
Is the Bible's
2149
01:04:47,767 --> 01:04:49,834
account true history,
2150
01:04:50,567 --> 01:04:53,900
or is it simply the
2151
01:04:50,567 --> 01:04:53,900
traditions of a devout people?
2152
01:04:58,734 --> 01:05:02,066
If the judgment happened
2153
01:04:58,734 --> 01:05:02,066
as described in the Bible,
2154
01:05:02,166 --> 01:05:05,500
Egyptian society
2155
01:05:02,166 --> 01:05:05,500
would have collapsed.
2156
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:10,000
Loss of their agriculture,
2157
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:10,000
loss of their first-born sons,
2158
01:05:10,100 --> 01:05:13,934
loss of their slave-force,
2159
01:05:10,100 --> 01:05:13,934
and the loss of their army.
2160
01:05:15,500 --> 01:05:18,734
In fact, Moses recorded that
2161
01:05:15,500 --> 01:05:18,734
Egypt was still suffering
2162
01:05:18,834 --> 01:05:22,400
from defeat 40 years
2163
01:05:18,834 --> 01:05:22,400
after the Exodus.
2164
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:27,533
(energetic music)
2165
01:05:36,867 --> 01:05:38,200
- [Voiceover] Critics
2166
01:05:36,867 --> 01:05:38,200
are quick to point out
2167
01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:40,300
that there is no such
2168
01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:40,300
record from Egypt
2169
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,467
of supernatural judgment
2170
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,467
and devastation.
2171
01:05:43,567 --> 01:05:45,834
But others believe there
2172
01:05:43,567 --> 01:05:45,834
is an Egyptian document
2173
01:05:45,934 --> 01:05:48,300
that actually gives
2174
01:05:45,934 --> 01:05:48,300
an eyewitness account
2175
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,200
of the plagues and chaos
2176
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,200
surrounding the Exodus.
2177
01:05:52,266 --> 01:05:53,467
Mahoney went to Holland to meet
2178
01:05:53,567 --> 01:05:55,900
the curator of
2179
01:05:53,567 --> 01:05:55,900
the Leiden Museum,
2180
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,967
where this significant
2181
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,967
papyrus is housed.
2182
01:05:59,834 --> 01:06:02,767
But Egyptologist Maarten
2183
01:05:59,834 --> 01:06:02,767
Raven sees no evidence
2184
01:06:02,867 --> 01:06:06,700
for the Exodus in this
2185
01:06:02,867 --> 01:06:06,700
document or anywhere else.
2186
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,166
- The story of the Exodus is
2187
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,166
described in the Old Testament.
2188
01:06:10,266 --> 01:06:12,800
It's part of the
2189
01:06:10,266 --> 01:06:12,800
national history
2190
01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:15,900
of the Jewish people,
2191
01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:15,900
or so they say.
2192
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,834
We have no independent evidence
2193
01:06:19,633 --> 01:06:22,567
that this is a real
2194
01:06:19,633 --> 01:06:22,567
historical event.
2195
01:06:22,667 --> 01:06:26,133
We can believe it because
2196
01:06:22,667 --> 01:06:26,133
we believe in the Bible?
2197
01:06:26,233 --> 01:06:30,100
There are no Egyptian
2198
01:06:26,233 --> 01:06:30,100
sources that describe it.
2199
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,500
There are no other documents.
2200
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,767
There are no
2201
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,767
archaeological sources
2202
01:06:33,867 --> 01:06:38,533
that could prove this took
2203
01:06:33,867 --> 01:06:38,533
place as a mass exodus.
2204
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:45,700
- [Voiceover] Raven's
2205
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:45,700
position, again,
2206
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,433
is that of most
2207
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,433
Egyptologists today.
2208
01:06:49,967 --> 01:06:51,734
But there are some
2209
01:06:49,967 --> 01:06:51,734
scholars who suggest
2210
01:06:51,834 --> 01:06:54,767
that descriptions found
2211
01:06:51,834 --> 01:06:54,767
in this Egyptian document
2212
01:06:54,867 --> 01:06:58,400
bear a remarkable resemblance
2213
01:06:54,867 --> 01:06:58,400
to the plagues of the Bible,
2214
01:06:58,500 --> 01:07:01,500
only from an Egyptian
2215
01:06:58,500 --> 01:07:01,500
point of view.
2216
01:07:02,834 --> 01:07:06,100
Written by a scribe named
2217
01:07:02,834 --> 01:07:06,100
Ipuwer, the papyrus known as
2218
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,066
"The Admonitions of
2219
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,066
an Egyptian Sage"
2220
01:07:09,166 --> 01:07:11,567
poetically describes
2221
01:07:09,166 --> 01:07:11,567
a series of calamities
2222
01:07:11,667 --> 01:07:14,100
and the chaos that followed.
2223
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,100
- [Maarten] Ipuwer, we
2224
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,100
don't know who he was,
2225
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,967
but he was obviously
2226
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,967
somebody in a position
2227
01:07:21,066 --> 01:07:24,500
to address his
2228
01:07:21,066 --> 01:07:24,500
majesty, the king.
2229
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,300
There's only one copy
2230
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,300
of this specific text
2231
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,000
and that is here in
2232
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,000
the Leiden Museum.
2233
01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:34,500
It's a very, very vivid report,
2234
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,934
or would be report, of
2235
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,934
what happens to Egypt
2236
01:07:39,033 --> 01:07:41,767
when the central
2237
01:07:39,033 --> 01:07:41,767
power falls away.
2238
01:07:43,967 --> 01:07:46,567
- [Tim] Many believe a
2239
01:07:43,967 --> 01:07:46,567
collapse of Egypt's power
2240
01:07:46,667 --> 01:07:48,934
is exactly what
2241
01:07:46,667 --> 01:07:48,934
would have happened
2242
01:07:49,033 --> 01:07:51,734
due to the plagues of Exodus.
2243
01:07:51,834 --> 01:07:54,233
And as I compared
2244
01:07:51,834 --> 01:07:54,233
the book of Exodus
2245
01:07:54,333 --> 01:07:56,333
to the writings of Ipuwer,
2246
01:07:56,433 --> 01:07:59,233
I too was intrigued
2247
01:07:56,433 --> 01:07:59,233
by the similarities.
2248
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,734
- To convince Pharaoh, God says,
2249
01:08:02,834 --> 01:08:07,066
"Take some water from the Nile
2250
01:08:02,834 --> 01:08:07,066
and pour it on the ground,
2251
01:08:07,166 --> 01:08:10,433
"and as it hits the ground
2252
01:08:07,166 --> 01:08:10,433
it will turn into blood."
2253
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:16,600
- [Egyptian voice]
2254
01:08:13,700 --> 01:08:16,600
Behold, Egypt is fallen
2255
01:08:16,700 --> 01:08:18,967
to the pouring of water.
2256
01:08:19,767 --> 01:08:22,867
And he who poured
2257
01:08:19,767 --> 01:08:22,867
water on the ground
2258
01:08:22,967 --> 01:08:26,600
seizes the mighty in misery.
2259
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,600
- [Manis] And all the water
2260
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,600
in the Nile turned into blood.
2261
01:08:31,700 --> 01:08:35,834
And the fish of the Nile
2262
01:08:31,700 --> 01:08:35,834
died, and the Nile reeked,
2263
01:08:35,934 --> 01:08:39,467
so that the Egyptians could
2264
01:08:35,934 --> 01:08:39,467
not drink water from the Nile.
2265
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,300
- [Egyptian voice]
2266
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,300
The River is blood.
2267
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:47,900
If you drink of it,
2268
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:47,900
you lose your humanity,
2269
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,433
and thirst for water.
2270
01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:56,166
- [Manis] All the livestock
2271
01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:56,166
of the Egyptians died.
2272
01:08:56,266 --> 01:08:58,767
(thunder cracks)
2273
01:08:56,266 --> 01:08:58,767
Fire ran down from heaven
2274
01:08:59,633 --> 01:09:03,266
and the Lord sent
2275
01:08:59,633 --> 01:09:03,266
hail upon the land.
2276
01:09:03,367 --> 01:09:06,166
Even the flax and the
2277
01:09:03,367 --> 01:09:06,166
barley were smitten.
2278
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:10,967
- [Egyptian voice] Gone is
2279
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:10,967
the barley of abundance,
2280
01:09:11,066 --> 01:09:13,533
food supplies are running short.
2281
01:09:14,166 --> 01:09:17,066
The nobles hunger and suffer.
2282
01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:21,333
Those who had shelter are
2283
01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:21,333
in the dark of the storm.
2284
01:09:21,433 --> 01:09:23,033
(thunder rumbles)
2285
01:09:23,133 --> 01:09:28,000
- I see no connection
2286
01:09:23,133 --> 01:09:28,000
between the papyrus of Ipuwer
2287
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:31,633
and the story of the
2288
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:31,633
Plagues of Egypt.
2289
01:09:31,734 --> 01:09:36,500
It is, in a way, in
2290
01:09:31,734 --> 01:09:36,500
a very indirect way,
2291
01:09:37,533 --> 01:09:41,100
an eyewitness report
2292
01:09:37,533 --> 01:09:41,100
of a historical period.
2293
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:45,333
It pretends to be such a
2294
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:45,333
report, but in fact it isn't.
2295
01:09:47,667 --> 01:09:50,333
- At midnight, the
2296
01:09:47,667 --> 01:09:50,333
Lord struck down
2297
01:09:50,433 --> 01:09:53,000
all the firstborn in
2298
01:09:50,433 --> 01:09:53,000
the land of Egypt,
2299
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:56,734
from the firstborn of Pharaoh,
2300
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:56,734
sitting on his throne,
2301
01:09:56,834 --> 01:10:00,433
to the firstborn of the
2302
01:09:56,834 --> 01:10:00,433
captive in the dungeon.
2303
01:10:01,934 --> 01:10:05,567
- [Egyptian voice] Behold,
2304
01:10:01,934 --> 01:10:05,567
plague sweeps the land,
2305
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,500
blood is everywhere, with
2306
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,500
no shortage of the dead.
2307
01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:16,133
He who buries his brother
2308
01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:16,133
in the ground is everywhere.
2309
01:10:17,133 --> 01:10:20,133
Woe is me for the
2310
01:10:17,133 --> 01:10:20,133
grief of this time.
2311
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:23,467
- And there was a great wailing
2312
01:10:23,567 --> 01:10:25,266
throughout the land of Egypt,
2313
01:10:25,367 --> 01:10:28,433
for there was not a
2314
01:10:25,367 --> 01:10:28,433
house without its dead.
2315
01:10:30,166 --> 01:10:32,767
- [Egyptian voice] Wailing
2316
01:10:30,166 --> 01:10:32,767
is throughout the land,
2317
01:10:32,867 --> 01:10:35,166
mingled with lamentations.
2318
01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:38,467
- All the time we have
2319
01:10:36,500 --> 01:10:38,467
to convince ourselves
2320
01:10:38,567 --> 01:10:40,767
that this person can't
2321
01:10:38,567 --> 01:10:40,767
have seen all this.
2322
01:10:40,867 --> 01:10:45,333
He imagined it, or he had
2323
01:10:40,867 --> 01:10:45,333
received this information
2324
01:10:45,433 --> 01:10:49,600
from other similar
2325
01:10:45,433 --> 01:10:49,600
propagandistic literature.
2326
01:10:49,700 --> 01:10:51,300
- Because it's so fantastic?
2327
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,133
- [Maarten] Yes.
2328
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,133
It's very fantastic.
2329
01:10:53,233 --> 01:10:56,133
But he hasn't seen it,
2330
01:10:53,233 --> 01:10:56,133
he just imagined it.
2331
01:10:56,233 --> 01:10:59,300
Don't confuse this with
2332
01:10:56,233 --> 01:10:59,300
the message of the Bible,
2333
01:11:00,033 --> 01:11:03,700
the Ten Plagues. That's
2334
01:11:00,033 --> 01:11:03,700
quite a different story.
2335
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,367
Whether this happened
2336
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,367
or not is irrelevant.
2337
01:11:06,467 --> 01:11:09,166
It's a beautiful
2338
01:11:06,467 --> 01:11:09,166
literary document,
2339
01:11:09,266 --> 01:11:12,133
and again, yes, God was angry
2340
01:11:12,233 --> 01:11:14,266
and punished the Egyptians,
2341
01:11:14,367 --> 01:11:19,300
but this is just
2342
01:11:14,367 --> 01:11:19,300
a literary cliche.
2343
01:11:22,367 --> 01:11:24,400
- [Voiceover] The
2344
01:11:22,367 --> 01:11:24,400
influential Egyptologist,
2345
01:11:24,500 --> 01:11:26,200
the late Miriam Lichtheim,
2346
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:28,967
ruled out the possibility
2347
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:28,967
that the papyrus,
2348
01:11:29,066 --> 01:11:31,100
The Admonitions of Ipuwer,
2349
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,433
referred to a real
2350
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,433
national calamity.
2351
01:11:34,066 --> 01:11:36,867
Agreeing with other scholars,
2352
01:11:34,066 --> 01:11:36,867
she stated the following:
2353
01:11:37,767 --> 01:11:40,834
- [Miriam] The description
2354
01:11:37,767 --> 01:11:40,834
of chaos in the Admonitions
2355
01:11:40,934 --> 01:11:43,400
is inherently contradictory,
2356
01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:45,967
hence, historically impossible.
2357
01:11:47,166 --> 01:11:51,500
On the one hand, the land is
2358
01:11:47,166 --> 01:11:51,500
said to suffer from total want;
2359
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,600
on the other hand the poor are
2360
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,600
described as becoming rich,
2361
01:11:55,700 --> 01:11:59,166
of wearing fine clothes,
2362
01:11:55,700 --> 01:11:59,166
and generally of disposing
2363
01:11:59,266 --> 01:12:02,066
of all that once
2364
01:11:59,266 --> 01:12:02,066
belonged to the masters.
2365
01:12:03,100 --> 01:12:06,200
- [Tim] However, when you
2366
01:12:03,100 --> 01:12:06,200
read the biblical account,
2367
01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:07,934
it becomes clear
2368
01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:07,934
how this apparent
2369
01:12:08,033 --> 01:12:10,600
contradiction could
2370
01:12:08,033 --> 01:12:10,600
have happened.
2371
01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:15,333
- [Manis] Moses told the
2372
01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:15,333
Israelites to ask the Egyptians
2373
01:12:15,433 --> 01:12:18,633
for silver and gold
2374
01:12:15,433 --> 01:12:18,633
jewelry, and for clothing.
2375
01:12:20,667 --> 01:12:23,066
- [Egyptian voice] People
2376
01:12:20,667 --> 01:12:23,066
are stripped of clothes.
2377
01:12:23,734 --> 01:12:26,300
The slave takes what he finds.
2378
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,066
Gold, lapis lazuli,
2379
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,066
silver and turquoise
2380
01:12:30,166 --> 01:12:33,800
are strung on the
2381
01:12:30,166 --> 01:12:33,800
necks of female slaves.
2382
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:36,600
- [Manis] The Lord
2383
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:36,600
gave the people favor
2384
01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:38,200
in the sight of the Egyptians,
2385
01:12:38,300 --> 01:12:40,734
so they gave them
2386
01:12:38,300 --> 01:12:40,734
whatever they asked.
2387
01:12:40,834 --> 01:12:43,467
Thus, they plundered
2388
01:12:40,834 --> 01:12:43,467
the land of Egypt.
2389
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:49,033
- [Tim] The very point that
2390
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:49,033
Miriam Lichtheim viewed
2391
01:12:49,133 --> 01:12:53,066
as "contradictory" and therefore
2392
01:12:49,133 --> 01:12:53,066
"historically impossible",
2393
01:12:53,166 --> 01:12:55,400
is the very point
2394
01:12:53,166 --> 01:12:55,400
that most specifically
2395
01:12:55,500 --> 01:12:57,700
matches the biblical text,
2396
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,066
but Maarten remains unconvinced.
2397
01:13:00,166 --> 01:13:02,033
He revealed to me
2398
01:13:00,166 --> 01:13:02,033
the main reason why.
2399
01:13:02,767 --> 01:13:04,033
- It's out of the question that
2400
01:13:04,133 --> 01:13:07,066
this can refer to one
2401
01:13:04,133 --> 01:13:07,066
and the same event.
2402
01:13:07,166 --> 01:13:09,266
Conventional chronology has it
2403
01:13:09,367 --> 01:13:13,533
that the Exodus
2404
01:13:09,367 --> 01:13:13,533
took place somewhere
2405
01:13:13,633 --> 01:13:16,633
during the Ramesside
2406
01:13:13,633 --> 01:13:16,633
Period in Egypt,
2407
01:13:16,734 --> 01:13:19,934
maybe around 1200 BC.
2408
01:13:20,033 --> 01:13:23,967
Whereas our papyrus, when
2409
01:13:20,033 --> 01:13:23,967
you look at the grammar
2410
01:13:24,066 --> 01:13:27,934
and the literary figures,
2411
01:13:28,033 --> 01:13:30,500
et cetera, there's no question
2412
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,967
that it was composed
2413
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,967
in the Middle Kingdom
2414
01:13:34,066 --> 01:13:37,200
and it is 600, 700,
2415
01:13:34,066 --> 01:13:37,200
800 years earlier.
2416
01:13:39,133 --> 01:13:41,533
- [Tim] But I realized
2417
01:13:39,133 --> 01:13:41,533
that all the other evidence
2418
01:13:41,633 --> 01:13:44,133
I had looked at
2419
01:13:41,633 --> 01:13:44,133
was also converging
2420
01:13:44,233 --> 01:13:47,533
in the Middle Kingdom,
2421
01:13:44,233 --> 01:13:47,533
not the time of Ramesses.
2422
01:13:48,467 --> 01:13:50,533
And was it just
2423
01:13:48,467 --> 01:13:50,533
another coincidence
2424
01:13:50,633 --> 01:13:52,900
that this document was
2425
01:13:50,633 --> 01:13:52,900
originally composed
2426
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,100
in the only period
2427
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,100
when Egypt's delta
2428
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,834
was dominated by large
2429
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,834
numbers of Semites?
2430
01:14:04,166 --> 01:14:06,266
It became obvious
2431
01:14:04,166 --> 01:14:06,266
to me and my team
2432
01:14:06,367 --> 01:14:08,500
that if people look at
2433
01:14:06,367 --> 01:14:08,500
the wrong time in history
2434
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,900
for evidence of the Exodus,
2435
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,900
they won't find any.
2436
01:14:12,533 --> 01:14:15,300
So Ramesses is a giant,
2437
01:14:12,533 --> 01:14:15,300
standing in the way
2438
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,000
of connecting this
2439
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,000
evidence with the Exodus.
2440
01:14:18,967 --> 01:14:21,700
And for over 50
2441
01:14:18,967 --> 01:14:21,700
years, all the books,
2442
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,066
all the television programs,
2443
01:14:24,166 --> 01:14:26,000
and all the university
2444
01:14:24,166 --> 01:14:26,000
professors who've been
2445
01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:28,700
convincing the world
2446
01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:28,700
to dismiss the Bible
2447
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,000
have been doing so based
2448
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,000
mainly on this one issue,
2449
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:35,333
chronology, the dates
2450
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:35,333
assumed for the Exodus,
2451
01:14:35,433 --> 01:14:39,100
and the lack of evidence
2452
01:14:35,433 --> 01:14:39,100
at the time of Ramesses II.
2453
01:14:39,867 --> 01:14:41,967
But if it happened
2454
01:14:39,867 --> 01:14:41,967
long before his time,
2455
01:14:42,066 --> 01:14:44,233
then it means they're all wrong.
2456
01:14:44,333 --> 01:14:45,700
Wrong about the pharaoh,
2457
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,633
and perhaps wrong about
2458
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,633
the Exodus never happening.
2459
01:14:49,734 --> 01:14:54,100
(mystical music)
2460
01:14:57,367 --> 01:14:59,133
- [Voiceover] Rohl took
2461
01:14:57,367 --> 01:14:59,133
Mahoney to see the replica
2462
01:14:59,233 --> 01:15:01,100
of a monument erected
2463
01:14:59,233 --> 01:15:01,100
just a few years
2464
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,533
after Ramesses' death,
2465
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,533
by his son Merenptah.
2466
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,100
It's important because
2467
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,100
it shows that Ramesses
2468
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,867
could not be the
2469
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,867
pharaoh of the Exodus
2470
01:15:09,967 --> 01:15:13,500
because in his time, Israel
2471
01:15:09,967 --> 01:15:13,500
was already a nation,
2472
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,633
established in the
2473
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,633
land of Canaan.
2474
01:15:16,700 --> 01:15:19,033
- [David] So this is the
2475
01:15:16,700 --> 01:15:19,033
famous Merenptah Stela,
2476
01:15:19,133 --> 01:15:21,300
or what we call
2477
01:15:19,133 --> 01:15:21,300
the Israel Stela.
2478
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,734
And it actually belongs
2479
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,734
to the King Merenptah.
2480
01:15:23,834 --> 01:15:26,700
Up there at the top you can
2481
01:15:23,834 --> 01:15:26,700
see him, facing the god Amun.
2482
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,800
And he lists, in a poetic form,
2483
01:15:28,900 --> 01:15:30,100
all the different
2484
01:15:28,900 --> 01:15:30,100
conquered nations,
2485
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,000
the nations that are at peace.
2486
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:35,066
But right at the bottom, we
2487
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:35,066
have three crucial lines,
2488
01:15:35,166 --> 01:15:37,700
because this is where we
2489
01:15:35,166 --> 01:15:37,700
find a link to the Bible.
2490
01:15:40,233 --> 01:15:42,200
Let's read it together, okay?
2491
01:15:42,300 --> 01:15:45,867
We have the two reeds, that's
2492
01:15:42,300 --> 01:15:45,867
the sound "yee" or "ee", okay?
2493
01:15:45,967 --> 01:15:50,066
Then a bolt, which is
2494
01:15:45,967 --> 01:15:50,066
"s", an "r", a mouth,
2495
01:15:50,166 --> 01:15:54,433
an "e", an "ah", and
2496
01:15:50,166 --> 01:15:54,433
an "l", Is-ra-el.
2497
01:15:54,533 --> 01:15:56,000
- [Tim] Israel.
2498
01:15:54,533 --> 01:15:56,000
- Israel.
2499
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:58,967
This is the only time
2500
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:58,967
that we see this name
2501
01:15:59,066 --> 01:16:00,867
on an Egyptian monument.
2502
01:16:00,967 --> 01:16:02,834
After the name "Israel"
2503
01:16:00,967 --> 01:16:02,834
are these two figures here,
2504
01:16:02,934 --> 01:16:05,166
these two seated figures
2505
01:16:02,934 --> 01:16:05,166
of a woman and a man
2506
01:16:05,266 --> 01:16:06,700
and three strokes underneath.
2507
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,133
These three strokes mean plural.
2508
01:16:08,233 --> 01:16:10,633
So it means the people
2509
01:16:08,233 --> 01:16:10,633
or nation of Israel.
2510
01:16:11,433 --> 01:16:12,767
And then this is
2511
01:16:11,433 --> 01:16:12,767
the interesting bit.
2512
01:16:12,867 --> 01:16:17,700
It says, "Fekty bin peret f."
2513
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:21,834
"Israel is laid waste,
2514
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:21,834
his seed is no more."
2515
01:16:21,934 --> 01:16:23,533
- [Tim] Well, does it mean that
2516
01:16:21,934 --> 01:16:23,533
they were literally no more?
2517
01:16:23,633 --> 01:16:25,633
- No, it's a sort of
2518
01:16:23,633 --> 01:16:25,633
poetical way of saying
2519
01:16:25,734 --> 01:16:27,800
they'd been overcome, defeated.
2520
01:16:25,734 --> 01:16:27,800
- [Tim] Or pacified?
2521
01:16:27,900 --> 01:16:31,300
- Yeah. All these phrases
2522
01:16:27,900 --> 01:16:31,300
here above are like that.
2523
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,133
It's a poetical
2524
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,133
phrase, effectively.
2525
01:16:33,233 --> 01:16:35,000
- [Tim] How significant
2526
01:16:33,233 --> 01:16:35,000
is this then,
2527
01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:36,600
to the story of the Exodus?
2528
01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:38,033
- Well, for me it's
2529
01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:38,033
very important,
2530
01:16:38,133 --> 01:16:41,200
because if we're talking
2531
01:16:38,133 --> 01:16:41,200
about Ramesses II or Merenptah
2532
01:16:41,300 --> 01:16:44,066
being at the time of the
2533
01:16:41,300 --> 01:16:44,066
Exodus of Moses and Joshua,
2534
01:16:44,166 --> 01:16:45,834
this just does not
2535
01:16:44,166 --> 01:16:45,834
fit the pattern.
2536
01:16:46,700 --> 01:16:49,333
It's not tribes wandering
2537
01:16:46,700 --> 01:16:49,333
around the Sinai,
2538
01:16:49,433 --> 01:16:50,900
lost in the desert or, you know,
2539
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,800
during the wandering
2540
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,800
periods of Moses and Joshua.
2541
01:16:53,900 --> 01:16:55,934
They seem to be a
2542
01:16:53,900 --> 01:16:55,934
political entity.
2543
01:16:57,133 --> 01:16:59,066
- [Voiceover] This monument
2544
01:16:57,133 --> 01:16:59,066
doesn't fit the idea
2545
01:16:59,166 --> 01:17:01,500
of Ramesses being the
2546
01:16:59,166 --> 01:17:01,500
pharaoh of the Exodus
2547
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,967
because it was written
2548
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,967
shortly after his death
2549
01:17:04,633 --> 01:17:07,734
and it recognizes Israel
2550
01:17:04,633 --> 01:17:07,734
already existing in Canaan
2551
01:17:07,834 --> 01:17:10,300
as one of the significant
2552
01:17:07,834 --> 01:17:10,300
powers of the day.
2553
01:17:11,033 --> 01:17:14,133
And that shouldn't be
2554
01:17:11,033 --> 01:17:14,133
because the Bible says
2555
01:17:14,233 --> 01:17:17,734
that the Israelites did not
2556
01:17:14,233 --> 01:17:17,734
even begin to conquer Canaan
2557
01:17:17,834 --> 01:17:20,266
until 40 years after the Exodus.
2558
01:17:20,967 --> 01:17:22,500
So Ramesses could not have been
2559
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,767
the pharaoh who let
2560
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,767
the Israelites go.
2561
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,700
Then Mahoney got a lead
2562
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,700
about another inscription.
2563
01:17:31,767 --> 01:17:34,066
Charles Aling brought
2564
01:17:31,767 --> 01:17:34,066
him to see his colleague,
2565
01:17:34,166 --> 01:17:37,700
historian Clyde Billington,
2566
01:17:34,166 --> 01:17:37,700
who has extensively researched
2567
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,066
this newly-discovered find.
2568
01:17:40,166 --> 01:17:41,233
- Besides the Merneptah Stela,
2569
01:17:41,333 --> 01:17:43,500
there's another
2570
01:17:41,333 --> 01:17:43,500
reference to Israel.
2571
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,266
It's called the Berlin Pedestal.
2572
01:17:45,367 --> 01:17:48,166
It's in the State Museum
2573
01:17:45,367 --> 01:17:48,166
in Berlin, Germany,
2574
01:17:48,266 --> 01:17:49,967
and this is something
2575
01:17:48,266 --> 01:17:49,967
that's just now
2576
01:17:50,066 --> 01:17:52,533
being studied and
2577
01:17:50,066 --> 01:17:52,533
discussed by scholars.
2578
01:17:53,533 --> 01:17:55,800
- [Voiceover] On the base
2579
01:17:53,533 --> 01:17:55,800
of this Egyptian statue,
2580
01:17:55,900 --> 01:17:57,433
they showed Mahoney name rings,
2581
01:17:57,533 --> 01:18:00,333
each representing an
2582
01:17:57,533 --> 01:18:00,333
enemy defeated by Pharaoh
2583
01:18:00,433 --> 01:18:02,066
in the region of Canaan.
2584
01:18:02,166 --> 01:18:04,233
- [Tim] So would these
2585
01:18:02,166 --> 01:18:04,233
have been captured people?
2586
01:18:04,333 --> 01:18:07,000
- Realize that pharaohs
2587
01:18:04,333 --> 01:18:07,000
all the time exaggerate,
2588
01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:08,300
to say the very least.
2589
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:09,767
- [Tim] So is he bragging?
2590
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:09,767
- He's bragging.
2591
01:18:09,867 --> 01:18:11,033
- [Tim] Okay.
2592
01:18:09,867 --> 01:18:11,033
- He's bragging.
2593
01:18:11,133 --> 01:18:12,433
He's saying, "I've
2594
01:18:11,133 --> 01:18:12,433
conquered these people.
2595
01:18:12,533 --> 01:18:13,800
"I control these people."
2596
01:18:13,900 --> 01:18:16,233
This is the one that's
2597
01:18:13,900 --> 01:18:16,233
caused all of the excitement
2598
01:18:16,333 --> 01:18:18,834
because you have,
2599
01:18:16,333 --> 01:18:18,834
again, a bound enemy,
2600
01:18:18,934 --> 01:18:20,266
so telling you that these people
2601
01:18:20,367 --> 01:18:23,533
are enemies of the Egyptians,
2602
01:18:20,367 --> 01:18:23,533
and the name down here,
2603
01:18:23,633 --> 01:18:25,533
that while it's
2604
01:18:23,633 --> 01:18:25,533
partially broken away,
2605
01:18:25,633 --> 01:18:28,367
has been reconstructed,
2606
01:18:25,633 --> 01:18:28,367
and it's the name "Israel".
2607
01:18:28,467 --> 01:18:31,700
And this dates to around 1360.
2608
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,266
This makes the late date of
2609
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,266
the Exodus an impossibility.
2610
01:18:35,367 --> 01:18:37,066
This is 100 years earlier.
2611
01:18:37,166 --> 01:18:39,333
- [Charles] This
2612
01:18:37,166 --> 01:18:39,333
is a very crucial
2613
01:18:39,433 --> 01:18:41,000
evidence that we see here.
2614
01:18:42,066 --> 01:18:43,266
- [Voiceover] This
2615
01:18:42,066 --> 01:18:43,266
name ring demonstrates
2616
01:18:43,367 --> 01:18:45,533
that Israel had
2617
01:18:43,367 --> 01:18:45,533
already left Egypt
2618
01:18:45,633 --> 01:18:47,433
and was in Canaan
2619
01:18:45,633 --> 01:18:47,433
as Egypt's enemy
2620
01:18:47,533 --> 01:18:50,700
a century before the
2621
01:18:47,533 --> 01:18:50,700
Ramesses Exodus date,
2622
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,433
so obviously Ramesses
2623
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,433
could not have been
2624
01:18:53,533 --> 01:18:55,300
the pharaoh of the Exodus.
2625
01:18:59,033 --> 01:19:00,900
As another test to
2626
01:18:59,033 --> 01:19:00,900
see whether Ramesses
2627
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,166
really was the
2628
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,166
Pharaoh of the Exodus,
2629
01:19:03,266 --> 01:19:05,600
Mahoney would need to find
2630
01:19:03,266 --> 01:19:05,600
out if there were any signs
2631
01:19:05,700 --> 01:19:08,533
of major problems during
2632
01:19:05,700 --> 01:19:08,533
this famous king's reign,
2633
01:19:08,633 --> 01:19:10,667
such as a sudden
2634
01:19:08,633 --> 01:19:10,667
collapse of power,
2635
01:19:10,767 --> 01:19:13,767
that would match the
2636
01:19:10,767 --> 01:19:13,767
biblical judgment of Egypt.
2637
01:19:13,867 --> 01:19:15,400
- I don't see any
2638
01:19:13,867 --> 01:19:15,400
evidence that during
2639
01:19:15,500 --> 01:19:17,500
the reign of
2640
01:19:15,500 --> 01:19:17,500
Ramesses II there was
2641
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:22,266
a significant decline in
2642
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:22,266
the strength of the army,
2643
01:19:22,367 --> 01:19:25,133
in the economic
2644
01:19:22,367 --> 01:19:25,133
well-being of the country.
2645
01:19:25,233 --> 01:19:26,333
I don't see anything in the
2646
01:19:26,433 --> 01:19:28,600
succeeding reign of
2647
01:19:26,433 --> 01:19:28,600
Merenptah either.
2648
01:19:28,700 --> 01:19:29,867
- [Tim] So you're saying
2649
01:19:28,700 --> 01:19:29,867
there was some type
2650
01:19:29,967 --> 01:19:31,734
of stability that was formed?
2651
01:19:31,834 --> 01:19:34,033
- There was a great deal of
2652
01:19:31,834 --> 01:19:34,033
stability during this period,
2653
01:19:34,133 --> 01:19:36,967
had to have been for a lot of
2654
01:19:34,133 --> 01:19:36,967
these things to have occurred.
2655
01:19:41,100 --> 01:19:42,934
- [Tim] But there's more.
2656
01:19:43,033 --> 01:19:45,300
It came to my attention
2657
01:19:43,033 --> 01:19:45,300
that the Bible itself
2658
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,700
contains a passage that's
2659
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,700
been largely ignored.
2660
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,867
It gives a date for the
2661
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,867
Exodus hundreds of years
2662
01:19:51,967 --> 01:19:54,900
before Pharaoh Ramesses ruled.
2663
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,233
Yet it clearly says
2664
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,233
it was 480 years
2665
01:19:58,333 --> 01:20:00,333
from the building
2666
01:19:58,333 --> 01:20:00,333
of Solomon's temple
2667
01:20:00,433 --> 01:20:03,166
back to the time of the Exodus.
2668
01:20:03,834 --> 01:20:06,033
- [Voiceover] Most scholars
2669
01:20:03,834 --> 01:20:06,033
agree that King Solomon
2670
01:20:06,133 --> 01:20:11,066
began his reign in 970 BC,
2671
01:20:06,133 --> 01:20:11,066
so 480 years before this
2672
01:20:11,266 --> 01:20:14,700
would place the
2673
01:20:11,266 --> 01:20:14,700
Exodus around 1450 BC,
2674
01:20:15,567 --> 01:20:18,233
200 years before
2675
01:20:15,567 --> 01:20:18,233
the Ramesses date.
2676
01:20:18,900 --> 01:20:21,266
Yet the popular
2677
01:20:18,900 --> 01:20:21,266
view continues to be
2678
01:20:21,367 --> 01:20:24,000
that the Exodus occurred
2679
01:20:21,367 --> 01:20:24,000
in the time of Ramesses.
2680
01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:26,433
- [John] It's a date
2681
01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:26,433
that is based on
2682
01:20:27,533 --> 01:20:30,533
very flimsy indicators,
2683
01:20:27,533 --> 01:20:30,533
but this is where
2684
01:20:30,633 --> 01:20:35,133
the majority of scholars look,
2685
01:20:30,633 --> 01:20:35,133
almost out of habit really.
2686
01:20:35,700 --> 01:20:39,800
Earlier periods have just
2687
01:20:35,700 --> 01:20:39,800
dropped off their radar.
2688
01:20:39,900 --> 01:20:41,633
- [Tim] And would you say
2689
01:20:39,900 --> 01:20:41,633
that's the bottom line
2690
01:20:41,734 --> 01:20:43,500
of why they don't find any
2691
01:20:41,734 --> 01:20:43,500
evidence for the Bible?
2692
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,834
- I would, and I find it
2693
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,834
deeply ironic. (laughs softly)
2694
01:20:51,233 --> 01:20:53,667
- [Tim] If I'm going where
2695
01:20:51,233 --> 01:20:53,667
the evidence is strongest,
2696
01:20:53,767 --> 01:20:57,233
then I've got to look beyond
2697
01:20:53,767 --> 01:20:57,233
the Ramesses Exodus Theory.
2698
01:20:57,333 --> 01:20:59,166
And that's really encouraging,
2699
01:20:59,266 --> 01:21:01,967
because it means that
2700
01:20:59,266 --> 01:21:01,967
the events of the Exodus
2701
01:21:02,066 --> 01:21:04,500
can be shifted
2702
01:21:02,066 --> 01:21:04,500
200 years earlier.
2703
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:09,100
(vigorous music)
2704
01:21:17,734 --> 01:21:19,500
But my challenge isn't over,
2705
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:24,033
because this new biblical
2706
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:24,033
date, around 1450 BC,
2707
01:21:24,133 --> 01:21:26,066
still leaves the
2708
01:21:24,133 --> 01:21:26,066
events separated
2709
01:21:26,166 --> 01:21:29,266
from the Egyptian
2710
01:21:26,166 --> 01:21:29,266
pattern by 200 years.
2711
01:21:32,100 --> 01:21:34,467
I was determined to
2712
01:21:32,100 --> 01:21:34,467
find an answer for this,
2713
01:21:34,567 --> 01:21:37,467
and to do so, I would continue
2714
01:21:34,567 --> 01:21:37,467
to explore the pattern
2715
01:21:37,567 --> 01:21:40,133
that seemed to exist
2716
01:21:37,567 --> 01:21:40,133
in the earlier period.
2717
01:21:41,567 --> 01:21:44,433
- [Voiceover] Is there any
2718
01:21:41,567 --> 01:21:44,433
indication in the Middle Kingdom
2719
01:21:44,533 --> 01:21:46,867
of the next step of
2720
01:21:44,533 --> 01:21:46,867
the Bible's sequence:
2721
01:21:46,967 --> 01:21:49,266
a massive and sudden exodus
2722
01:21:49,367 --> 01:21:52,133
following the death
2723
01:21:49,367 --> 01:21:52,133
of the firstborn?
2724
01:21:53,567 --> 01:21:55,900
Rohl told Mahoney
2725
01:21:53,567 --> 01:21:55,900
about something amazing
2726
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:57,834
that was found at Avaris.
2727
01:21:57,934 --> 01:21:59,633
- We find an extraordinary
2728
01:21:57,934 --> 01:21:59,633
thing happens.
2729
01:22:00,333 --> 01:22:02,033
The archaeologists who've
2730
01:22:00,333 --> 01:22:02,033
been digging this area
2731
01:22:02,133 --> 01:22:04,433
suddenly find lots of
2732
01:22:02,133 --> 01:22:04,433
pits in the ground.
2733
01:22:05,233 --> 01:22:07,066
And in these pits are bodies,
2734
01:22:07,166 --> 01:22:08,867
and they've been
2735
01:22:07,166 --> 01:22:08,867
tossed into these pits.
2736
01:22:08,967 --> 01:22:10,600
They're not buried formally.
2737
01:22:10,700 --> 01:22:13,133
They have no grave goods
2738
01:22:10,700 --> 01:22:13,133
or anything like that.
2739
01:22:13,233 --> 01:22:15,300
These bodies are tossed
2740
01:22:13,233 --> 01:22:15,300
on top of each other.
2741
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:16,567
They're lying strewn.
2742
01:22:16,667 --> 01:22:18,333
You have hands and
2743
01:22:16,667 --> 01:22:18,333
legs crossing over.
2744
01:22:19,066 --> 01:22:21,667
What is happening
2745
01:22:19,066 --> 01:22:21,667
here? What is going on?
2746
01:22:22,500 --> 01:22:24,000
Bietak thinks its actually
2747
01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:25,900
some sort of plague
2748
01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:25,900
that's happened.
2749
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,567
A dramatic event where suddenly
2750
01:22:27,667 --> 01:22:29,400
they have to bury
2751
01:22:27,667 --> 01:22:29,400
people very quickly
2752
01:22:29,500 --> 01:22:32,333
because of contamination
2753
01:22:29,500 --> 01:22:32,333
of the living population.
2754
01:22:32,433 --> 01:22:34,767
So it's an emergency burial.
2755
01:22:34,867 --> 01:22:36,667
And then, all of a sudden,
2756
01:22:36,767 --> 01:22:39,600
all these Semitic peoples
2757
01:22:36,767 --> 01:22:39,600
who were living there
2758
01:22:39,700 --> 01:22:41,700
suddenly get up,
2759
01:22:39,700 --> 01:22:41,700
they pack their bags
2760
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,567
and they leave and the
2761
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,567
whole mound is abandoned.
2762
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,233
And we don't know for how long,
2763
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,233
and it just falls to ruin.
2764
01:22:48,333 --> 01:22:51,367
Now, isn't that just
2765
01:22:48,333 --> 01:22:51,367
like the story of Exodus?
2766
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,834
- [Voiceover] 120 miles
2767
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,834
to the south of Avaris,
2768
01:23:00,934 --> 01:23:02,400
another similar abandonment
2769
01:23:02,500 --> 01:23:05,900
was uncovered at
2770
01:23:02,500 --> 01:23:05,900
the town of Kahun.
2771
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,033
Excavators found a walled
2772
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,033
and guarded settlement,
2773
01:23:09,133 --> 01:23:12,567
which supported a large
2774
01:23:09,133 --> 01:23:12,567
Semitic population.
2775
01:23:12,667 --> 01:23:15,233
They also found
2776
01:23:12,667 --> 01:23:15,233
documentation of slavery.
2777
01:23:15,934 --> 01:23:18,333
Mysteriously, the
2778
01:23:15,934 --> 01:23:18,333
inhabitants here
2779
01:23:18,433 --> 01:23:21,033
seemed to have
2780
01:23:18,433 --> 01:23:21,033
disappeared overnight.
2781
01:23:22,567 --> 01:23:24,834
According to Professor
2782
01:23:22,567 --> 01:23:24,834
Rosalie David,
2783
01:23:24,934 --> 01:23:29,000
the town's abandonment was
2784
01:23:24,934 --> 01:23:29,000
"sudden and unpremeditated".
2785
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,567
Their goods were
2786
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,567
found in the streets
2787
01:23:31,667 --> 01:23:35,233
and houses of Kahun exactly
2788
01:23:31,667 --> 01:23:35,233
where they were left,
2789
01:23:35,333 --> 01:23:39,233
before being buried by the
2790
01:23:35,333 --> 01:23:39,233
sands of the desert so long ago.
2791
01:23:41,500 --> 01:23:44,333
- [David] One of the great
2792
01:23:41,500 --> 01:23:44,333
moments in Egyptian history
2793
01:23:44,433 --> 01:23:47,066
is the collapse of
2794
01:23:44,433 --> 01:23:47,066
Egyptian civilization.
2795
01:23:47,166 --> 01:23:50,333
When these foreigners
2796
01:23:47,166 --> 01:23:50,333
invade, these Hyksos rulers,
2797
01:23:50,433 --> 01:23:53,633
come in and destroy the land
2798
01:23:50,433 --> 01:23:53,633
and the Egyptian native rule
2799
01:23:53,734 --> 01:23:57,166
is completely suppressed,
2800
01:23:53,734 --> 01:23:57,166
Egypt is on its knees.
2801
01:23:57,266 --> 01:23:59,567
That's what we see in the
2802
01:23:57,266 --> 01:23:59,567
archaeological evidence
2803
01:23:59,667 --> 01:24:02,367
of this period and
2804
01:23:59,667 --> 01:24:02,367
it only happens once
2805
01:24:02,467 --> 01:24:05,166
in 1,000 years of
2806
01:24:02,467 --> 01:24:05,166
Egyptian history.
2807
01:24:06,834 --> 01:24:10,433
If we can link this to
2808
01:24:06,834 --> 01:24:10,433
a very famous tradition
2809
01:24:10,533 --> 01:24:13,533
told to us by an Egyptian
2810
01:24:10,533 --> 01:24:13,533
priest called Manetho,
2811
01:24:13,633 --> 01:24:16,367
he wrote a history of Egypt
2812
01:24:13,633 --> 01:24:16,367
in the 3rd century BC,
2813
01:24:16,467 --> 01:24:18,734
and what we end up with
2814
01:24:16,467 --> 01:24:18,734
is a story like this:
2815
01:24:18,834 --> 01:24:21,433
in the reign of a
2816
01:24:18,834 --> 01:24:21,433
king called Dudimose,
2817
01:24:21,533 --> 01:24:23,433
one of the last kings
2818
01:24:21,533 --> 01:24:23,433
of the 13th Dynasty,
2819
01:24:23,533 --> 01:24:26,967
in his reign, God
2820
01:24:23,533 --> 01:24:26,967
smote the Egyptians.
2821
01:24:27,066 --> 01:24:30,433
And God here is singular;
2822
01:24:27,066 --> 01:24:30,433
you would expect to see
2823
01:24:30,533 --> 01:24:33,233
"and the gods" smote the
2824
01:24:30,533 --> 01:24:33,233
Egyptians, but you don't.
2825
01:24:33,333 --> 01:24:36,033
You see "God" smote
2826
01:24:33,333 --> 01:24:36,033
the Egyptians.
2827
01:24:36,133 --> 01:24:39,900
And then, because of
2828
01:24:36,133 --> 01:24:39,900
the smiting, whatever
2829
01:24:36,133 --> 01:24:39,900
the smiting is,
2830
01:24:40,667 --> 01:24:42,800
foreigners, "people
2831
01:24:40,667 --> 01:24:42,800
of obscure race",
2832
01:24:42,900 --> 01:24:46,166
invade Egypt from the north
2833
01:24:42,900 --> 01:24:46,166
and they conquer the land,
2834
01:24:46,266 --> 01:24:48,867
"without striking a
2835
01:24:46,266 --> 01:24:48,867
blow" is the term.
2836
01:24:48,967 --> 01:24:51,834
Now why? Because God
2837
01:24:48,967 --> 01:24:51,834
smote the Egyptians.
2838
01:24:51,934 --> 01:24:53,967
Something had happened
2839
01:24:51,934 --> 01:24:53,967
to devastate Egypt,
2840
01:24:54,066 --> 01:24:56,700
which made them unable
2841
01:24:54,066 --> 01:24:56,700
to defend themselves
2842
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,200
and these marauding hordes
2843
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,200
took over the whole country.
2844
01:24:59,300 --> 01:25:00,967
And we call this
2845
01:24:59,300 --> 01:25:00,967
the Hyksos period
2846
01:25:01,066 --> 01:25:02,900
and they enslaved the Egyptians.
2847
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,500
But the point is they could
2848
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,500
have defended themselves,
2849
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,000
they had a mighty army,
2850
01:25:07,100 --> 01:25:10,000
except for the fact that God
2851
01:25:07,100 --> 01:25:10,000
had smitten the Egyptians.
2852
01:25:16,233 --> 01:25:17,433
- [Voiceover] The earlier
2853
01:25:16,233 --> 01:25:17,433
pattern of evidence
2854
01:25:17,533 --> 01:25:20,600
for the Judgment and
2855
01:25:17,533 --> 01:25:20,600
Exodus steps includes:
2856
01:25:20,700 --> 01:25:23,433
a Middle Kingdom papyrus
2857
01:25:20,700 --> 01:25:23,433
that describes events
2858
01:25:23,533 --> 01:25:26,467
remarkably similar to
2859
01:25:23,533 --> 01:25:26,467
the biblical plagues;
2860
01:25:27,367 --> 01:25:30,266
grave pits filled with
2861
01:25:27,367 --> 01:25:30,266
bodies, hastily buried;
2862
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,166
mass abandonment at
2863
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,166
Semitic sites in Egypt;
2864
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:36,967
an Egyptian source,
2865
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:36,967
outside the Bible,
2866
01:25:37,066 --> 01:25:40,533
stating that a powerful god
2867
01:25:37,066 --> 01:25:40,533
acted in Egypt's history,
2868
01:25:40,633 --> 01:25:42,033
delivering a deadly blow,
2869
01:25:42,133 --> 01:25:44,333
which led to an
2870
01:25:42,133 --> 01:25:44,333
invasion by foreigners;
2871
01:25:46,066 --> 01:25:48,467
and all this coinciding
2872
01:25:46,066 --> 01:25:48,467
with the only collapse
2873
01:25:48,567 --> 01:25:51,767
of Egyptian society
2874
01:25:48,567 --> 01:25:51,767
in 1,000 years.
2875
01:25:52,700 --> 01:25:55,467
- [David] You look
2876
01:25:52,700 --> 01:25:55,467
for a collapse in
2877
01:25:52,700 --> 01:25:55,467
Egyptian civilization
2878
01:25:55,567 --> 01:25:58,300
and that's where you'll
2879
01:25:55,567 --> 01:25:58,300
find Moses and the Exodus.
2880
01:26:02,433 --> 01:26:05,100
- [Tim] But what about the
2881
01:26:02,433 --> 01:26:05,100
final step of that sequence,
2882
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,333
the conquest of Canaan,
2883
01:26:07,433 --> 01:26:08,600
the land that had been promised
2884
01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:11,000
to Abraham and his descendants?
2885
01:26:11,100 --> 01:26:12,700
Would the earlier
2886
01:26:11,100 --> 01:26:12,700
pattern of evidence
2887
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,834
continue there as well?
2888
01:26:14,934 --> 01:26:19,567
(uplifting music)
2889
01:26:25,900 --> 01:26:28,467
- [Manis] The children
2890
01:26:25,900 --> 01:26:28,467
of Israel leave Egypt.
2891
01:26:28,567 --> 01:26:32,633
They travel to Mount Sinai
2892
01:26:28,567 --> 01:26:32,633
where they received God's law
2893
01:26:32,734 --> 01:26:35,033
and made a covenant
2894
01:26:32,734 --> 01:26:35,033
to be His people.
2895
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,100
Then, after 40 years of
2896
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,100
wandering in the wilderness,
2897
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,367
Moses transferred his
2898
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,367
authority to Joshua
2899
01:26:42,467 --> 01:26:45,166
and ascended the
2900
01:26:42,467 --> 01:26:45,166
heights of Mount Nebo,
2901
01:26:45,266 --> 01:26:47,066
and there he died.
2902
01:26:48,066 --> 01:26:50,200
The Israelites had
2903
01:26:48,066 --> 01:26:50,200
been waiting centuries
2904
01:26:50,300 --> 01:26:52,500
for the promise to be fulfilled,
2905
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,667
and now it was Joshua
2906
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,667
who would lead them
2907
01:26:55,767 --> 01:26:57,734
in their conquest of Canaan.
2908
01:27:01,533 --> 01:27:02,567
- [Voiceover] The land of Canaan
2909
01:27:02,667 --> 01:27:04,467
was very different from Egypt.
2910
01:27:04,567 --> 01:27:06,967
It was a land ruled by many
2911
01:27:04,567 --> 01:27:06,967
independent city-states
2912
01:27:07,066 --> 01:27:11,000
with names like Hazor,
2913
01:27:07,066 --> 01:27:11,000
Jericho, Hebron, and Arad.
2914
01:27:11,834 --> 01:27:13,633
The history of these
2915
01:27:11,834 --> 01:27:13,633
cities has been divided
2916
01:27:13,734 --> 01:27:17,100
into two major time periods:
2917
01:27:13,734 --> 01:27:17,100
the Middle Bronze Age,
2918
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,900
matching Egypt's Middle Kingdom,
2919
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,734
when they were thriving and
2920
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,734
fortified by high walls.
2921
01:27:22,667 --> 01:27:25,834
Then a sudden destruction and
2922
01:27:22,667 --> 01:27:25,834
burning came upon the land,
2923
01:27:25,934 --> 01:27:27,633
leaving those cities in
2924
01:27:25,934 --> 01:27:27,633
ruins and bringing in
2925
01:27:27,734 --> 01:27:30,567
a new period known as
2926
01:27:27,734 --> 01:27:30,567
the Late Bronze Age,
2927
01:27:30,667 --> 01:27:33,066
matching the time of
2928
01:27:30,667 --> 01:27:33,066
Egypt's New Kingdom.
2929
01:27:35,500 --> 01:27:37,300
Archaeologist Norma Franklin
2930
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,800
represents a large group of
2931
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,800
scholars that sees no evidence
2932
01:27:40,900 --> 01:27:43,900
for a biblical conquest
2933
01:27:40,900 --> 01:27:43,900
of the Promised Land.
2934
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,934
- As an archaeologist, I
2935
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:45,934
hate to disappoint people,
2936
01:27:46,033 --> 01:27:49,567
but we have no evidence
2937
01:27:46,033 --> 01:27:49,567
for a single mass migration
2938
01:27:49,667 --> 01:27:53,233
of people from one country,
2939
01:27:49,667 --> 01:27:53,233
over a period of 40 years,
2940
01:27:53,333 --> 01:27:55,834
wandering and coming
2941
01:27:53,333 --> 01:27:55,834
into another country.
2942
01:27:56,667 --> 01:28:00,433
There is destruction,
2943
01:27:56,667 --> 01:28:00,433
amazing destructions.
2944
01:28:00,533 --> 01:28:03,166
None of them actually
2945
01:28:00,533 --> 01:28:03,166
fit one another.
2946
01:28:03,266 --> 01:28:08,300
They all happened within 100
2947
01:28:03,266 --> 01:28:08,300
years, but not overnight.
2948
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:09,867
Not what you'd expect in --
2949
01:28:09,967 --> 01:28:11,500
You know, Joshua
2950
01:28:09,967 --> 01:28:11,500
didn't live that long,
2951
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,967
(laughs) if he existed, okay?
2952
01:28:14,066 --> 01:28:16,066
- First and
2953
01:28:14,066 --> 01:28:16,066
foremost, many places
2954
01:28:16,166 --> 01:28:19,200
which are mentioned in Joshua,
2955
01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:22,533
in the Cnquest story,
2956
01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:22,533
specifically mention,
2957
01:28:22,633 --> 01:28:24,900
you know, as major
2958
01:28:22,633 --> 01:28:24,900
places in Canaan
2959
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:29,166
were excavated and no
2960
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:29,166
evidence for a city
2961
01:28:29,266 --> 01:28:32,300
in the Late Bronze Age
2962
01:28:29,266 --> 01:28:32,300
has ever been found.
2963
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,433
And I'm speaking about
2964
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,433
major excavations.
2965
01:28:34,533 --> 01:28:36,300
And we are speaking
2966
01:28:34,533 --> 01:28:36,300
about many sites.
2967
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,767
It's systematic; it's
2968
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,767
not only a single site.
2969
01:28:41,066 --> 01:28:43,500
- [Tim] This is a serious
2970
01:28:41,066 --> 01:28:43,500
problem for the Conquest
2971
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,066
if it really happened
2972
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,066
in the Late Bronze Age.
2973
01:28:47,166 --> 01:28:49,066
But, again, what if it happened
2974
01:28:49,166 --> 01:28:51,767
in the earlier
2975
01:28:49,166 --> 01:28:51,767
Middle Bronze Age?
2976
01:28:51,867 --> 01:28:53,800
It seemed only logical to begin
2977
01:28:53,900 --> 01:28:56,367
by looking at the
2978
01:28:53,900 --> 01:28:56,367
key site of Jericho,
2979
01:28:56,467 --> 01:28:59,600
the first city the Israelites
2980
01:28:56,467 --> 01:28:59,600
are said to have destroyed.
2981
01:29:00,300 --> 01:29:03,000
And we know exactly
2982
01:29:00,300 --> 01:29:03,000
where that was.
2983
01:29:04,567 --> 01:29:08,166
- [Voiceover] Major
2984
01:29:04,567 --> 01:29:08,166
archaeological
2985
01:29:04,567 --> 01:29:08,166
excavations at Jericho
2986
01:29:08,266 --> 01:29:10,734
began with a German
2987
01:29:08,266 --> 01:29:10,734
team in the early 1900s,
2988
01:29:10,834 --> 01:29:12,533
led by Ernst Sellin.
2989
01:29:13,567 --> 01:29:15,000
This was followed
2990
01:29:13,567 --> 01:29:15,000
by a British team,
2991
01:29:15,100 --> 01:29:17,900
headed by John
2992
01:29:15,100 --> 01:29:17,900
Garstang, in the 1930s.
2993
01:29:18,934 --> 01:29:21,867
At the time of their digs,
2994
01:29:18,934 --> 01:29:21,867
both Sellin and Garstang
2995
01:29:21,967 --> 01:29:24,233
believed they had uncovered
2996
01:29:21,967 --> 01:29:24,233
a layer of destruction
2997
01:29:24,333 --> 01:29:26,633
that matched the biblical story.
2998
01:29:28,100 --> 01:29:30,166
However, things
2999
01:29:28,100 --> 01:29:30,166
took a dramatic turn
3000
01:29:30,266 --> 01:29:34,367
when Kathleen Kenyon dug
3001
01:29:30,266 --> 01:29:34,367
at Jericho in the 1950s.
3002
01:29:34,467 --> 01:29:36,800
She demonstrated that
3003
01:29:34,467 --> 01:29:36,800
there was no evidence
3004
01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:40,233
for a destruction of Jericho
3005
01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:40,233
matching the biblical account
3006
01:29:40,333 --> 01:29:43,767
because she dated the demise
3007
01:29:40,333 --> 01:29:43,767
of the city much earlier.
3008
01:29:45,767 --> 01:29:47,533
A wave of skepticism
3009
01:29:45,767 --> 01:29:47,533
began to sweep
3010
01:29:47,633 --> 01:29:50,100
across the field of archaeology.
3011
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,967
In an instant, Kenyon's
3012
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,967
discoveries at Jericho
3013
01:29:53,066 --> 01:29:56,300
had undermined the
3014
01:29:53,066 --> 01:29:56,300
entire Exodus story.
3015
01:29:57,967 --> 01:29:59,800
- [John] She was expecting
3016
01:29:57,967 --> 01:29:59,800
that if there was
3017
01:29:59,900 --> 01:30:01,600
any evidence there
3018
01:29:59,900 --> 01:30:01,600
at all it would be
3019
01:30:01,700 --> 01:30:03,834
in what we call
3020
01:30:01,700 --> 01:30:03,834
the Late Bronze Age
3021
01:30:03,934 --> 01:30:05,967
and it simply isn't there.
3022
01:30:06,066 --> 01:30:08,166
If the Israelites had
3023
01:30:06,066 --> 01:30:08,166
arrived in the 13th century,
3024
01:30:08,266 --> 01:30:09,867
they would have found
3025
01:30:08,266 --> 01:30:09,867
almost nobody there,
3026
01:30:09,967 --> 01:30:11,834
no walls to collapse.
3027
01:30:11,934 --> 01:30:14,934
It just wouldn't have fitted
3028
01:30:11,934 --> 01:30:14,934
the biblical narrative.
3029
01:30:15,033 --> 01:30:18,700
So her excavations
3030
01:30:15,033 --> 01:30:18,700
helped to compound
3031
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,100
this very negative view
3032
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,100
that was developing,
3033
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,934
not just from Jericho, but
3034
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,934
from other sites as well.
3035
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:27,533
- [Tim] Is there a time
3036
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:27,533
when Jericho was destroyed
3037
01:30:28,266 --> 01:30:30,266
where the walls fell
3038
01:30:28,266 --> 01:30:30,266
down or it was burned?
3039
01:30:30,367 --> 01:30:31,300
- I don't think so.
3040
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,166
I don't think we have evidence,
3041
01:30:33,266 --> 01:30:37,266
this kind of evidence
3042
01:30:33,266 --> 01:30:37,266
in the case of Jericho.
3043
01:30:37,367 --> 01:30:40,333
And I don't think that we can
3044
01:30:37,367 --> 01:30:40,333
really look for this evidence.
3045
01:30:40,433 --> 01:30:44,667
We are very much past this
3046
01:30:40,433 --> 01:30:44,667
phase of archeological research.
3047
01:30:44,767 --> 01:30:47,734
- [Tim] But David Rohl
3048
01:30:44,767 --> 01:30:47,734
sees things differently.
3049
01:30:47,834 --> 01:30:49,900
- If people are telling us
3050
01:30:47,834 --> 01:30:49,900
that there was no Jericho
3051
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,500
at the time that Joshua
3052
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,500
conquered the Promise Land
3053
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,567
and therefore Joshua
3054
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,567
is a piece of fiction
3055
01:30:54,667 --> 01:30:56,400
and therefore the Conquest
3056
01:30:54,667 --> 01:30:56,400
is a piece of fiction
3057
01:30:56,500 --> 01:30:59,567
and then probably Exodus is
3058
01:30:56,500 --> 01:30:59,567
a piece of fiction as well,
3059
01:30:59,667 --> 01:31:02,000
if that's the case, why don't
3060
01:30:59,667 --> 01:31:02,000
we ask the simple question,
3061
01:31:02,100 --> 01:31:03,767
"Well, when was Jericho around?
3062
01:31:03,867 --> 01:31:05,934
"When was Jericho destroyed?"
3063
01:31:06,033 --> 01:31:07,900
and start from
3064
01:31:06,033 --> 01:31:07,900
that point of view.
3065
01:31:10,533 --> 01:31:11,867
- [Manis] The Conquest began
3066
01:31:11,967 --> 01:31:14,600
with the Israelites
3067
01:31:11,967 --> 01:31:14,600
crossing the Jordan River.
3068
01:31:15,567 --> 01:31:17,700
Joshua sent men to spy out
3069
01:31:18,467 --> 01:31:20,867
the massively walled
3070
01:31:18,467 --> 01:31:20,867
city of Jericho,
3071
01:31:20,967 --> 01:31:24,033
and there they met a
3072
01:31:20,967 --> 01:31:24,033
harlot named Rahab,
3073
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:28,300
who reported that all
3074
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:28,300
in the land had heard
3075
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,567
what God had done
3076
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,567
for the Israelites
3077
01:31:30,667 --> 01:31:32,800
and they were terrified.
3078
01:31:32,900 --> 01:31:37,166
Rahab hid the spies and aided
3079
01:31:32,900 --> 01:31:37,166
their escape to the mountains.
3080
01:31:39,867 --> 01:31:42,734
- What evidence do
3081
01:31:39,867 --> 01:31:42,734
you see matching the
3082
01:31:39,867 --> 01:31:42,734
conquest at Jericho?
3083
01:31:42,834 --> 01:31:44,100
- [Bryant] First
3084
01:31:42,834 --> 01:31:44,100
of all, we're told
3085
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,834
that Jericho was fortified.
3086
01:31:46,934 --> 01:31:49,400
When the archaeologists
3087
01:31:46,934 --> 01:31:49,400
dug the city,
3088
01:31:49,500 --> 01:31:50,934
particularly Kathleen Kenyon,
3089
01:31:51,033 --> 01:31:52,900
when she did her
3090
01:31:51,033 --> 01:31:52,900
work in the '50s,
3091
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,100
discovered that the tell
3092
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,100
that the city's built on
3093
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,800
was surrounded by a
3094
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,800
great earthen rampart.
3095
01:32:00,667 --> 01:32:02,700
- [Voiceover] Excavators
3096
01:32:00,667 --> 01:32:02,700
found that Jericho
3097
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:06,033
was protected by a
3098
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:06,033
brilliant defensive system.
3099
01:32:06,133 --> 01:32:08,266
At its base was a
3100
01:32:06,133 --> 01:32:08,266
stone retaining wall
3101
01:32:08,367 --> 01:32:12,033
more than 15 feet high, with
3102
01:32:08,367 --> 01:32:12,033
a defensive extension wall
3103
01:32:12,133 --> 01:32:14,567
of mud bricks
3104
01:32:12,133 --> 01:32:14,567
rising higher still.
3105
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,834
Beyond this was the
3106
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:19,834
rampart, a steep slope
3107
01:32:19,934 --> 01:32:22,767
covered with a slick
3108
01:32:19,934 --> 01:32:22,767
surface of white plaster,
3109
01:32:22,867 --> 01:32:24,600
where attackers would
3110
01:32:22,867 --> 01:32:24,600
have been exposed
3111
01:32:24,700 --> 01:32:27,133
to arrows and sling
3112
01:32:24,700 --> 01:32:27,133
stones from above.
3113
01:32:28,500 --> 01:32:31,233
At the top of this rampart
3114
01:32:28,500 --> 01:32:31,233
was the main city wall,
3115
01:32:31,333 --> 01:32:33,133
also made of mud-brick,
3116
01:32:33,233 --> 01:32:37,266
this one more than 25 feet
3117
01:32:33,233 --> 01:32:37,266
high and 10 feet thick.
3118
01:32:38,633 --> 01:32:40,066
- [Manis] Imagine the dread
3119
01:32:40,900 --> 01:32:43,800
and the desperate panic
3120
01:32:40,900 --> 01:32:43,800
of the people of Jericho.
3121
01:32:44,834 --> 01:32:47,934
Day after day, for six
3122
01:32:44,834 --> 01:32:47,934
days, the people of Israel
3123
01:32:48,033 --> 01:32:51,667
are walking around their city
3124
01:32:48,033 --> 01:32:51,667
with the Ark of the Covenant
3125
01:32:52,433 --> 01:32:54,834
and the sounding of ram's horns.
3126
01:32:54,934 --> 01:32:56,300
Then, on the seventh day,
3127
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,533
they encircle the
3128
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,533
city seven times,
3129
01:32:58,633 --> 01:33:00,567
and the priests give a
3130
01:32:58,633 --> 01:33:00,567
long blast on their horns.
3131
01:33:00,667 --> 01:33:02,300
(horns blaring)
3132
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,734
The people let loose
3133
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,734
with a mighty shout.
3134
01:33:04,834 --> 01:33:07,300
(loud shouting
3135
01:33:04,834 --> 01:33:07,300
and horns blaring)
3136
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,633
The walls come tumbling down,
3137
01:33:09,734 --> 01:33:12,567
(walls rumble and crash)
3138
01:33:22,133 --> 01:33:23,533
(people shouting)
3139
01:33:23,633 --> 01:33:26,133
allowing the Israelites
3140
01:33:23,633 --> 01:33:26,133
to climb up into the city,
3141
01:33:26,233 --> 01:33:28,266
taking it and commencing
3142
01:33:28,367 --> 01:33:30,600
the conquering of
3143
01:33:28,367 --> 01:33:30,600
the land of Israel.
3144
01:33:34,266 --> 01:33:36,467
- [Bryant] Well, when
3145
01:33:34,266 --> 01:33:36,467
the city met its end,
3146
01:33:36,567 --> 01:33:39,800
these mud brick walls collapsed
3147
01:33:39,900 --> 01:33:42,834
and they actually fell down
3148
01:33:42,934 --> 01:33:46,033
to the base of the
3149
01:33:42,934 --> 01:33:46,033
stone retaining wall.
3150
01:33:46,133 --> 01:33:49,166
Kenyon describes it very clearly
3151
01:33:49,266 --> 01:33:52,033
and in detail in her
3152
01:33:49,266 --> 01:33:52,033
excavation report.
3153
01:33:52,133 --> 01:33:55,900
And then we're told they
3154
01:33:52,133 --> 01:33:55,900
set the city on fire,
3155
01:33:56,767 --> 01:33:58,867
and that's exactly what we find:
3156
01:33:58,967 --> 01:34:01,834
Jericho was massively
3157
01:33:58,967 --> 01:34:01,834
destroyed by fire.
3158
01:34:02,867 --> 01:34:07,133
Kenyon said it was very
3159
01:34:02,867 --> 01:34:07,133
clear that within the city,
3160
01:34:07,233 --> 01:34:10,900
the walls of the buildings
3161
01:34:07,233 --> 01:34:10,900
had fallen as well
3162
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,633
and she says that the walls
3163
01:34:14,734 --> 01:34:17,600
fell before the fire.
3164
01:34:18,734 --> 01:34:22,300
And so we have the sequence
3165
01:34:18,734 --> 01:34:22,300
that we read in the Bible:
3166
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,834
first the fallen walls,
3167
01:34:24,934 --> 01:34:29,333
and then the city being set
3168
01:34:24,934 --> 01:34:29,333
on fire by the Israelites.
3169
01:34:32,266 --> 01:34:33,934
- [Voiceover] Excavations
3170
01:34:32,266 --> 01:34:33,934
at the site uncovered
3171
01:34:34,033 --> 01:34:37,066
clear evidence for a
3172
01:34:34,033 --> 01:34:37,066
massive destruction by fire
3173
01:34:37,166 --> 01:34:40,400
with a very thick burn layer
3174
01:34:37,166 --> 01:34:40,400
of extremely high temperatures.
3175
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,266
This caused Kenyon to
3176
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,266
attribute the burning
3177
01:34:43,367 --> 01:34:45,433
to an enemy attack and not fires
3178
01:34:45,533 --> 01:34:47,767
that would result solely
3179
01:34:45,533 --> 01:34:47,767
from an earthquake.
3180
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,767
- She claimed that
3181
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,767
the city was destroyed
3182
01:34:52,667 --> 01:34:56,567
around 1550 BC by the Egyptians.
3183
01:34:56,667 --> 01:34:58,767
Well, there's absolutely no
3184
01:34:56,667 --> 01:34:58,767
evidence that the Egyptians
3185
01:34:58,867 --> 01:35:02,633
were ever in the Jordan
3186
01:34:58,867 --> 01:35:02,633
Valley at this time period.
3187
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,533
- [Tim] So because Kenyon dated
3188
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,533
the destruction of Jericho
3189
01:35:06,633 --> 01:35:10,600
150 years before the Israelites
3190
01:35:06,633 --> 01:35:10,600
were supposed to be there,
3191
01:35:10,700 --> 01:35:12,133
she made no connection between
3192
01:35:12,233 --> 01:35:14,433
the destruction and
3193
01:35:12,233 --> 01:35:14,433
the biblical account.
3194
01:35:15,166 --> 01:35:17,133
But, once again, this date fits
3195
01:35:17,233 --> 01:35:19,266
the earlier pattern
3196
01:35:17,233 --> 01:35:19,266
I'd been seeing.
3197
01:35:20,300 --> 01:35:24,300
- Within the city, a very
3198
01:35:20,300 --> 01:35:24,300
unique discovery was made.
3199
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:26,934
Both Garstang and Kenyon found
3200
01:35:27,033 --> 01:35:29,500
in the houses that
3201
01:35:27,033 --> 01:35:29,500
they excavated
3202
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,834
many jars, full of grain,
3203
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,834
that were stored there.
3204
01:35:33,934 --> 01:35:36,400
- [John] The store jars in
3205
01:35:33,934 --> 01:35:36,400
the city were pretty full.
3206
01:35:36,500 --> 01:35:37,967
That suggests the harvest
3207
01:35:38,066 --> 01:35:40,567
had only recently
3208
01:35:38,066 --> 01:35:40,567
been gathered in.
3209
01:35:40,667 --> 01:35:43,066
And the details in
3210
01:35:40,667 --> 01:35:43,066
the biblical account
3211
01:35:43,166 --> 01:35:46,667
point to an event that happened
3212
01:35:43,166 --> 01:35:46,667
sometime in the spring.
3213
01:35:46,767 --> 01:35:48,300
And, down there in
3214
01:35:46,767 --> 01:35:48,300
the Jordan valley,
3215
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,133
spring is when the
3216
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:50,133
harvest was gathered in,
3217
01:35:50,233 --> 01:35:51,934
the grain harvest.
3218
01:35:52,033 --> 01:35:54,400
- When the Israelites
3219
01:35:52,033 --> 01:35:54,400
crossed the Jordan,
3220
01:35:54,500 --> 01:35:57,800
the first thing they did
3221
01:35:54,500 --> 01:35:57,800
was celebrate Passover.
3222
01:35:57,900 --> 01:35:59,266
Well, when is Passover?
3223
01:35:59,367 --> 01:36:01,100
Again, the spring of the year.
3224
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:02,967
- [Voiceover] The full
3225
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:02,967
jars also indicate
3226
01:36:03,066 --> 01:36:06,467
that if this was a
3227
01:36:03,066 --> 01:36:06,467
siege, it was very short,
3228
01:36:06,567 --> 01:36:10,300
unusual for a strong fortified
3229
01:36:06,567 --> 01:36:10,300
city such as Jericho.
3230
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:13,166
- And that matches
3231
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:13,166
the biblical account
3232
01:36:13,266 --> 01:36:16,033
because the siege
3233
01:36:13,266 --> 01:36:16,033
was only seven days,
3234
01:36:16,133 --> 01:36:19,033
otherwise the people
3235
01:36:16,133 --> 01:36:19,033
inside would have consumed
3236
01:36:19,133 --> 01:36:22,400
a lot of that grain if it
3237
01:36:19,133 --> 01:36:22,400
dragged out for months.
3238
01:36:22,500 --> 01:36:24,000
- Was the grain found
3239
01:36:22,500 --> 01:36:24,000
all over the city?
3240
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:26,633
- Yes. In every house
3241
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:26,633
that was excavated
3242
01:36:26,734 --> 01:36:29,033
they found jars of grain.
3243
01:36:30,567 --> 01:36:32,300
- [Voiceover] There was
3244
01:36:30,567 --> 01:36:32,300
one other intriguing detail
3245
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,934
at Jericho that fits the
3246
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,934
Bible remarkably well.
3247
01:36:36,033 --> 01:36:38,600
It had to do with the
3248
01:36:36,033 --> 01:36:38,600
promise made to Rahab.
3249
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,867
- She actually lived
3250
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,867
in the city wall,
3251
01:36:41,967 --> 01:36:44,133
and after hiding the
3252
01:36:41,967 --> 01:36:44,133
spies, they promised her
3253
01:36:44,233 --> 01:36:46,367
that she and her family
3254
01:36:44,233 --> 01:36:46,367
would be protected
3255
01:36:46,467 --> 01:36:49,934
when they attacked the city,
3256
01:36:46,467 --> 01:36:49,934
and they kept their promise.
3257
01:36:50,033 --> 01:36:52,700
She had marked her home
3258
01:36:50,033 --> 01:36:52,700
with a scarlet cord,
3259
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,633
which she hung out the window.
3260
01:36:55,867 --> 01:36:59,300
- [Voiceover] But if her house
3261
01:36:55,867 --> 01:36:59,300
was built into the city wall,
3262
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:01,066
how could it have survived?
3263
01:37:03,266 --> 01:37:06,133
- [Tim] I came across the
3264
01:37:03,266 --> 01:37:06,133
actual archaeological report
3265
01:37:06,233 --> 01:37:08,567
that the German
3266
01:37:06,233 --> 01:37:08,567
excavator of Jericho,
3267
01:37:08,667 --> 01:37:11,266
Ernst Sellin, had
3268
01:37:08,667 --> 01:37:11,266
published in 1913.
3269
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:16,066
He was the first to conduct a
3270
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:16,066
major excavation of the site,
3271
01:37:16,166 --> 01:37:19,033
and I could see that
3272
01:37:16,166 --> 01:37:19,033
his work was impressive,
3273
01:37:19,133 --> 01:37:21,100
but now seemed to
3274
01:37:19,133 --> 01:37:21,100
have been forgotten.
3275
01:37:23,567 --> 01:37:26,033
Here were detailed
3276
01:37:23,567 --> 01:37:26,033
plans and photographs,
3277
01:37:26,133 --> 01:37:27,934
including one part of the site,
3278
01:37:28,033 --> 01:37:31,633
which echoed the Rahab
3279
01:37:28,033 --> 01:37:31,633
story in an unexpected way.
3280
01:37:32,967 --> 01:37:36,600
- The Germans found that
3281
01:37:32,967 --> 01:37:36,600
in this one short stretch
3282
01:37:36,700 --> 01:37:39,000
on the north side of the city,
3283
01:37:39,100 --> 01:37:42,233
there were houses
3284
01:37:39,100 --> 01:37:42,233
built on the rampart,
3285
01:37:42,333 --> 01:37:46,133
between the lower city wall
3286
01:37:42,333 --> 01:37:46,133
and the upper city wall,
3287
01:37:46,233 --> 01:37:48,166
and some of those
3288
01:37:46,233 --> 01:37:48,166
houses were built
3289
01:37:48,266 --> 01:37:51,433
right up against
3290
01:37:48,266 --> 01:37:51,433
the lower city wall.
3291
01:37:52,533 --> 01:37:57,400
They found that the city wall
3292
01:37:52,533 --> 01:37:57,400
did not fall in this area.
3293
01:37:58,367 --> 01:38:01,967
So that provides an
3294
01:37:58,367 --> 01:38:01,967
explanation for how the spies
3295
01:38:02,066 --> 01:38:04,000
could have saved
3296
01:38:02,066 --> 01:38:04,000
Rahab and her family
3297
01:38:04,100 --> 01:38:05,967
because God brought
3298
01:38:04,100 --> 01:38:05,967
the wall down
3299
01:38:06,066 --> 01:38:09,100
everywhere else except
3300
01:38:06,066 --> 01:38:09,100
where her house was,
3301
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,233
and we have archaeological
3302
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,233
evidence to back that up.
3303
01:38:12,967 --> 01:38:15,233
- [Tim] What if people say,
3304
01:38:12,967 --> 01:38:15,233
"Well, you're biased."?
3305
01:38:15,333 --> 01:38:17,700
- I think everybody in
3306
01:38:15,333 --> 01:38:17,700
the field is biased,
3307
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,800
(laughs softly)
3308
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,800
one way or another.
3309
01:38:19,900 --> 01:38:21,567
I admit my bias.
3310
01:38:21,667 --> 01:38:24,333
However, I cannot
3311
01:38:21,667 --> 01:38:24,333
make up the evidence.
3312
01:38:24,433 --> 01:38:26,567
I cannot plant it in the ground.
3313
01:38:26,667 --> 01:38:29,600
I have analyzed it and
3314
01:38:26,667 --> 01:38:29,600
compared it to the Bible
3315
01:38:29,700 --> 01:38:33,000
and I see, wow, it
3316
01:38:29,700 --> 01:38:33,000
matches exactly.
3317
01:38:33,100 --> 01:38:35,700
That's science: look
3318
01:38:33,100 --> 01:38:35,700
at your evidence
3319
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,300
and come to a conclusion
3320
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,300
based on the evidence.
3321
01:38:44,834 --> 01:38:46,900
- [Voiceover] Archaeologists
3322
01:38:44,834 --> 01:38:46,900
have uncovered:
3323
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:50,934
a city with high fortification
3324
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:50,934
walls that fell down;
3325
01:38:51,033 --> 01:38:52,900
evidence that the
3326
01:38:51,033 --> 01:38:52,900
city was intentionally
3327
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:54,700
burned after the collapse;
3328
01:38:55,734 --> 01:38:57,767
storage jars filled
3329
01:38:55,734 --> 01:38:57,767
with charred grain,
3330
01:38:57,867 --> 01:39:00,367
evidence of a short
3331
01:38:57,867 --> 01:39:00,367
siege in springtime;
3332
01:39:01,500 --> 01:39:05,100
and a section of
3333
01:39:01,500 --> 01:39:05,100
houses within the wall,
3334
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:09,233
miraculously preserved, just
3335
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:09,233
as in the biblical account.
3336
01:39:10,500 --> 01:39:12,367
According to the
3337
01:39:10,500 --> 01:39:12,367
biblical account,
3338
01:39:12,467 --> 01:39:14,567
Joshua spoke a
3339
01:39:12,467 --> 01:39:14,567
curse against anyone
3340
01:39:14,667 --> 01:39:17,033
who would rebuild
3341
01:39:14,667 --> 01:39:17,033
the city of Jericho,
3342
01:39:17,867 --> 01:39:20,633
and the archaeology shows
3343
01:39:17,867 --> 01:39:20,633
that, after the destruction,
3344
01:39:20,734 --> 01:39:23,867
the city of Jericho was indeed
3345
01:39:20,734 --> 01:39:23,867
abandoned for centuries.
3346
01:39:26,633 --> 01:39:28,367
But, of course,
3347
01:39:26,633 --> 01:39:28,367
this is all happens
3348
01:39:28,467 --> 01:39:31,333
in the wrong time in the
3349
01:39:28,467 --> 01:39:31,333
view of most scholars.
3350
01:39:31,433 --> 01:39:32,734
Bryant Wood believes that Kenyon
3351
01:39:32,834 --> 01:39:34,667
misdated the pottery at Jericho,
3352
01:39:34,767 --> 01:39:36,700
resulting in a wrong
3353
01:39:34,767 --> 01:39:36,700
destruction date.
3354
01:39:37,767 --> 01:39:39,734
He, along with Charles
3355
01:39:37,767 --> 01:39:39,734
Aling, believed that
3356
01:39:39,834 --> 01:39:42,867
the Conquest occurred
3357
01:39:39,834 --> 01:39:42,867
around 1400 BC,
3358
01:39:42,967 --> 01:39:45,734
using the conventional
3359
01:39:42,967 --> 01:39:45,734
dates for Egypt and Canaan.
3360
01:39:46,934 --> 01:39:51,300
However, David Rohl and John
3361
01:39:46,934 --> 01:39:51,300
Bimson have a different idea.
3362
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,266
They propose that Kenyon came
3363
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:54,266
to a wrong destruction date
3364
01:39:54,367 --> 01:39:56,533
at Jericho because
3365
01:39:54,367 --> 01:39:56,533
the dates assigned
3366
01:39:56,633 --> 01:39:59,667
to the Middle Bronze
3367
01:39:56,633 --> 01:39:59,667
Age are not correct
3368
01:39:59,767 --> 01:40:02,900
and these dates for history
3369
01:39:59,767 --> 01:40:02,900
need a major adjustment.
3370
01:40:04,300 --> 01:40:07,066
Regardless, all these
3371
01:40:04,300 --> 01:40:07,066
scholars agree that Jericho
3372
01:40:07,166 --> 01:40:09,066
was destroyed in a
3373
01:40:07,166 --> 01:40:09,066
manner that matches
3374
01:40:09,166 --> 01:40:11,934
the story of Joshua
3375
01:40:09,166 --> 01:40:11,934
and the Israelites.
3376
01:40:16,767 --> 01:40:19,900
But there's more to the
3377
01:40:16,767 --> 01:40:19,900
conquest than just Jericho.
3378
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:23,767
Spies had reported that
3379
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:23,767
Canaan was a beautiful land,
3380
01:40:23,867 --> 01:40:26,533
flowing with milk and honey.
3381
01:40:26,633 --> 01:40:29,633
But it was also filled with
3382
01:40:26,633 --> 01:40:29,633
great, fortified cities
3383
01:40:29,734 --> 01:40:32,333
that had walls
3384
01:40:29,734 --> 01:40:32,333
reaching up to heaven.
3385
01:40:32,433 --> 01:40:36,166
One by one, they
3386
01:40:32,433 --> 01:40:36,166
would fall to Joshua.
3387
01:40:36,266 --> 01:40:39,433
(loud shouting, metals clashing)
3388
01:40:47,767 --> 01:40:49,734
- [Manis] Then
3389
01:40:47,767 --> 01:40:49,734
Joshua turned north
3390
01:40:49,834 --> 01:40:51,700
and headed for
3391
01:40:49,834 --> 01:40:51,700
the city of Hazor.
3392
01:40:52,500 --> 01:40:54,467
Jabin, king of Hazor,
3393
01:40:54,567 --> 01:40:57,266
gathered all the kings of
3394
01:40:54,567 --> 01:40:57,266
the region against Israel.
3395
01:40:58,100 --> 01:41:02,166
Joshua captured Hazor and
3396
01:40:58,100 --> 01:41:02,166
struck its king with the sword
3397
01:41:02,266 --> 01:41:05,734
and Joshua destroyed
3398
01:41:02,266 --> 01:41:05,734
Hazor by fire.
3399
01:41:07,300 --> 01:41:09,367
- [Voiceover] Israeli
3400
01:41:07,300 --> 01:41:09,367
archaeologists at Hazor
3401
01:41:09,467 --> 01:41:10,834
found a massive burn layer
3402
01:41:10,934 --> 01:41:13,367
from the same time as
3403
01:41:10,934 --> 01:41:13,367
Jericho's destruction.
3404
01:41:14,567 --> 01:41:16,433
They also found something else.
3405
01:41:17,100 --> 01:41:19,567
- We found tablets in the
3406
01:41:17,100 --> 01:41:19,567
Middle Bronze Age palace
3407
01:41:19,667 --> 01:41:21,400
belonging to a
3408
01:41:19,667 --> 01:41:21,400
king called Jabin,
3409
01:41:21,500 --> 01:41:23,133
and that's the name of
3410
01:41:21,500 --> 01:41:23,133
the king that Joshua
3411
01:41:23,233 --> 01:41:27,133
actually stuck his
3412
01:41:23,233 --> 01:41:27,133
sword into in the story.
3413
01:41:27,233 --> 01:41:29,567
- [Voiceover] This is
3414
01:41:27,233 --> 01:41:29,567
the cuneiform tablet
3415
01:41:29,667 --> 01:41:31,266
containing the name of Jabin,
3416
01:41:31,367 --> 01:41:34,800
found in remains of the
3417
01:41:31,367 --> 01:41:34,800
palace in ancient Hazor.
3418
01:41:34,900 --> 01:41:35,967
- [Tim] So you have a connection
3419
01:41:36,066 --> 01:41:38,066
between the Bible story
3420
01:41:36,066 --> 01:41:38,066
and these tablets?
3421
01:41:38,166 --> 01:41:40,133
- We have a name
3422
01:41:38,166 --> 01:41:40,133
that's identical.
3423
01:41:40,233 --> 01:41:42,300
We have a tablet coming
3424
01:41:40,233 --> 01:41:42,300
out of the ground
3425
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:44,867
with the name Jabin on it,
3426
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:44,867
and in the story of Joshua,
3427
01:41:44,967 --> 01:41:48,400
Joshua killed King
3428
01:41:44,967 --> 01:41:48,400
Jabin of Hazor. - Wow.
3429
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:55,066
- [Voiceover] But, when
3430
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:55,066
looking for the Conquest
3431
01:41:55,166 --> 01:41:57,333
in the expected time period,
3432
01:41:57,433 --> 01:41:59,834
archaeologists have
3433
01:41:57,433 --> 01:41:59,834
found no evidence.
3434
01:42:00,834 --> 01:42:03,533
In fact, many of these
3435
01:42:00,834 --> 01:42:03,533
sites were not even occupied
3436
01:42:03,633 --> 01:42:06,400
throughout the entire
3437
01:42:03,633 --> 01:42:06,400
Late Bronze Age;
3438
01:42:06,500 --> 01:42:09,066
no high walls; no
3439
01:42:06,500 --> 01:42:09,066
massive destructions;
3440
01:42:10,100 --> 01:42:12,800
only a series of
3441
01:42:10,100 --> 01:42:12,800
burned-out and empty ruins.
3442
01:42:14,700 --> 01:42:17,633
This has been a key factor
3443
01:42:14,700 --> 01:42:17,633
in the current skepticism
3444
01:42:17,734 --> 01:42:20,467
over the biblical
3445
01:42:17,734 --> 01:42:20,467
account of the Conquest.
3446
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,767
- [Tim] Again, maybe they've
3447
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,767
been looking in the wrong time
3448
01:42:25,867 --> 01:42:28,767
for evidence of the
3449
01:42:25,867 --> 01:42:28,767
Israelites entering Canaan,
3450
01:42:28,867 --> 01:42:31,700
because when you look earlier
3451
01:42:28,867 --> 01:42:31,700
in the Middle Bronze Age,
3452
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:33,800
all these cities were occupied,
3453
01:42:33,900 --> 01:42:36,333
and they were guarded
3454
01:42:33,900 --> 01:42:36,333
by high walls,
3455
01:42:36,433 --> 01:42:39,500
and, amazingly, they all
3456
01:42:36,433 --> 01:42:39,500
suffered major destructions
3457
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:44,100
in the same short period, just
3458
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:44,100
as described in the Bible.
3459
01:42:45,500 --> 01:42:47,567
- When you put those
3460
01:42:45,500 --> 01:42:47,567
cities side by side,
3461
01:42:48,433 --> 01:42:50,400
the biblical account
3462
01:42:48,433 --> 01:42:50,400
and the archaeology
3463
01:42:50,500 --> 01:42:52,266
match extremely well.
3464
01:42:52,367 --> 01:42:55,700
I think we have enough
3465
01:42:52,367 --> 01:42:55,700
destroyed and abandoned cities
3466
01:42:56,433 --> 01:42:59,567
to say this fits the
3467
01:42:56,433 --> 01:42:59,567
sequence of events
3468
01:42:59,667 --> 01:43:01,233
the Bible is describing.
3469
01:43:01,333 --> 01:43:02,900
There's a high probability
3470
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,200
that we're looking here
3471
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,200
at Joshua's Conquest.
3472
01:43:06,500 --> 01:43:08,300
- [David] The whole
3473
01:43:06,500 --> 01:43:08,300
thing, from the beginning
3474
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,333
of the sojourn in
3475
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,333
Egypt, to slavery,
3476
01:43:11,433 --> 01:43:13,900
Moses and the Exodus, the
3477
01:43:11,433 --> 01:43:13,900
Conquest of the Promised Land
3478
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:17,967
is all there in one nice neat
3479
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:17,967
line, but it's way too early.
3480
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,066
- [Voiceover] Rohl, Bimson
3481
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,066
and others suggest that
3482
01:43:22,166 --> 01:43:24,400
this problem didn't
3483
01:43:22,166 --> 01:43:24,400
start with the Bible,
3484
01:43:24,500 --> 01:43:26,667
it began with Egypt.
3485
01:43:26,767 --> 01:43:28,533
They propose that early scholars
3486
01:43:28,633 --> 01:43:31,000
developed its
3487
01:43:28,633 --> 01:43:31,000
dating incorrectly,
3488
01:43:31,100 --> 01:43:33,166
and that new
3489
01:43:31,100 --> 01:43:33,166
information requires
3490
01:43:33,266 --> 01:43:36,633
that the events of Egypt's
3491
01:43:33,266 --> 01:43:36,633
history be shifted forward
3492
01:43:36,734 --> 01:43:38,900
on the timeline by centuries.
3493
01:43:39,734 --> 01:43:41,400
- [David] And all of
3494
01:43:39,734 --> 01:43:41,400
a sudden, these things
3495
01:43:41,500 --> 01:43:43,467
that are too early
3496
01:43:41,500 --> 01:43:43,467
become contemporary
3497
01:43:43,567 --> 01:43:45,200
with the events in
3498
01:43:43,567 --> 01:43:45,200
the Old Testament.
3499
01:43:45,300 --> 01:43:47,567
They sync up again.
3500
01:43:45,300 --> 01:43:47,567
Everything links together.
3501
01:43:48,367 --> 01:43:51,467
- [Tim] I was so excited to
3502
01:43:48,367 --> 01:43:51,467
hear of this possibility.
3503
01:43:51,567 --> 01:43:53,433
It would explain
3504
01:43:51,567 --> 01:43:53,433
why all the evidence
3505
01:43:53,533 --> 01:43:56,133
has been consistently earlier.
3506
01:43:56,233 --> 01:43:58,934
But could the history
3507
01:43:56,233 --> 01:43:58,934
scholars created for Egypt
3508
01:43:59,033 --> 01:44:00,934
really be off by centuries?
3509
01:44:01,834 --> 01:44:05,600
- [James] I'm very much against
3510
01:44:01,834 --> 01:44:05,600
chronological revisionism.
3511
01:44:05,700 --> 01:44:07,600
Very good, very
3512
01:44:05,700 --> 01:44:07,600
competent historians
3513
01:44:07,700 --> 01:44:11,266
have been working for
3514
01:44:07,700 --> 01:44:11,266
decades and decades
3515
01:44:11,367 --> 01:44:14,600
on Egyptian chronology and
3516
01:44:11,367 --> 01:44:14,600
Near Eastern chronology.
3517
01:44:14,700 --> 01:44:16,166
There's still more
3518
01:44:14,700 --> 01:44:16,166
work to be done,
3519
01:44:16,266 --> 01:44:20,533
but I don't see a possibility
3520
01:44:16,266 --> 01:44:20,533
of moving things centuries.
3521
01:44:20,633 --> 01:44:22,667
- I'm not into this
3522
01:44:20,633 --> 01:44:22,667
business at all,
3523
01:44:22,767 --> 01:44:25,367
and I think that we
3524
01:44:22,767 --> 01:44:25,367
know enough to say that
3525
01:44:25,467 --> 01:44:27,600
we may be wrong 10 years
3526
01:44:25,467 --> 01:44:27,600
here and 10 years there,
3527
01:44:27,700 --> 01:44:31,500
but there's no way to
3528
01:44:27,700 --> 01:44:31,500
change, to shift centuries.
3529
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,800
I mean, forget it. I think
3530
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,800
that we are on solid ground,
3531
01:44:33,900 --> 01:44:37,133
so there's no need to look
3532
01:44:33,900 --> 01:44:37,133
for different centuries.
3533
01:44:38,834 --> 01:44:43,633
(somber music)
3534
01:44:44,467 --> 01:44:46,834
- [Tim] What was I
3535
01:44:44,467 --> 01:44:46,834
supposed to do now?
3536
01:44:48,100 --> 01:44:51,200
Hoffmeier and Finkelstien
3537
01:44:48,100 --> 01:44:51,200
represent mainstream opinion,
3538
01:44:51,300 --> 01:44:53,266
and I can't simply ignore it.
3539
01:44:55,967 --> 01:44:58,667
The fact is, the
3540
01:44:55,967 --> 01:44:58,667
majority of scholars,
3541
01:44:58,767 --> 01:45:01,767
even believers in the Bible,
3542
01:44:58,767 --> 01:45:01,767
won't allow the evidence
3543
01:45:01,867 --> 01:45:04,266
I've seen to be
3544
01:45:01,867 --> 01:45:04,266
connected to the Exodus.
3545
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:06,533
It's just too early.
3546
01:45:07,233 --> 01:45:09,400
This is the biggest
3547
01:45:07,233 --> 01:45:09,400
giant of all,
3548
01:45:09,500 --> 01:45:11,934
standing in the way of
3549
01:45:09,500 --> 01:45:11,934
solving this problem.
3550
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,033
But the biblical
3551
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,033
pattern was so strong
3552
01:45:16,133 --> 01:45:18,033
that I just couldn't let it go.
3553
01:45:24,633 --> 01:45:26,500
- [Voiceover] Mahoney's
3554
01:45:24,633 --> 01:45:26,500
researchers uncovered a lead
3555
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:28,700
that led him to
3556
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:28,700
Oxford University.
3557
01:45:29,734 --> 01:45:32,567
On St John's Street is
3558
01:45:29,734 --> 01:45:32,567
the Griffith Institute,
3559
01:45:32,667 --> 01:45:33,900
one of the greatest storehouses
3560
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,433
of Egyptological
3561
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,433
documents in the world.
3562
01:45:38,166 --> 01:45:39,367
He was here to
3563
01:45:38,166 --> 01:45:39,367
review the writings
3564
01:45:39,467 --> 01:45:41,867
of the late Sir Alan Gardiner,
3565
01:45:41,967 --> 01:45:44,400
perhaps the greatest specialist
3566
01:45:41,967 --> 01:45:44,400
in reading hieroglyphs
3567
01:45:44,500 --> 01:45:47,633
in the 20th century
3568
01:45:44,500 --> 01:45:47,633
and he had a great hand
3569
01:45:47,734 --> 01:45:49,800
in uncovering what
3570
01:45:47,734 --> 01:45:49,800
we know today.
3571
01:45:49,900 --> 01:45:54,600
(bright music)
3572
01:45:56,467 --> 01:45:59,166
- [Tim] I was moved as I looked
3573
01:45:56,467 --> 01:45:59,166
through his personal notes.
3574
01:46:00,133 --> 01:46:02,600
In some ways, I was
3575
01:46:00,133 --> 01:46:02,600
following a path
3576
01:46:02,700 --> 01:46:04,867
that he had helped to clear.
3577
01:46:05,934 --> 01:46:09,300
After a lifetime of searching,
3578
01:46:05,934 --> 01:46:09,300
Gardiner wrote something
3579
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:13,333
that directly impacted the
3580
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:13,333
question I was dealing with.
3581
01:46:13,433 --> 01:46:16,133
- [Sir Alan] It must never
3582
01:46:13,433 --> 01:46:16,133
be forgotten that we are
3583
01:46:16,233 --> 01:46:20,333
dealing with a civilization
3584
01:46:16,233 --> 01:46:20,333
thousands of years old
3585
01:46:20,433 --> 01:46:23,567
and one of which only tiny
3586
01:46:20,433 --> 01:46:23,567
remnants have survived.
3587
01:46:24,367 --> 01:46:27,100
What is proudly advertised
3588
01:46:24,367 --> 01:46:27,100
as Egyptian history
3589
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,667
is merely a collection
3590
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,667
of rags and tatters.
3591
01:46:29,767 --> 01:46:34,567
(bright music)
3592
01:46:37,066 --> 01:46:40,100
- [Tim] If all we have
3593
01:46:37,066 --> 01:46:40,100
are rags and tatters,
3594
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,567
how sure can we be
3595
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,567
about the dates?
3596
01:46:45,266 --> 01:46:47,734
Alan Gardiner said that what
3597
01:46:45,266 --> 01:46:47,734
we have is rags and tatters.
3598
01:46:47,834 --> 01:46:50,633
Is that still true today or
3599
01:46:47,834 --> 01:46:50,633
do you think that's changed?
3600
01:46:50,734 --> 01:46:52,700
- No, I think that
3601
01:46:50,734 --> 01:46:52,700
basically is true.
3602
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:55,066
What's interesting about
3603
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:55,066
the source material
3604
01:46:55,166 --> 01:46:58,734
from ancient Egypt, though,
3605
01:46:55,166 --> 01:46:58,734
is that those rags and tatters
3606
01:46:58,834 --> 01:47:01,433
are more numerous and
3607
01:46:58,834 --> 01:47:01,433
of a more varied kind
3608
01:47:01,533 --> 01:47:04,867
than almost any other
3609
01:47:01,533 --> 01:47:04,867
civilization on the
3610
01:47:01,533 --> 01:47:04,867
face of the Earth.
3611
01:47:05,667 --> 01:47:07,367
You name it, every
3612
01:47:05,667 --> 01:47:07,367
kind of material
3613
01:47:07,467 --> 01:47:09,333
imaginable has come down to us;
3614
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:14,533
not complete, but
3615
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:14,533
tantalizing rags and tatters.
3616
01:47:15,233 --> 01:47:17,867
And it's a wonderful thing
3617
01:47:15,233 --> 01:47:17,867
to have all of this material,
3618
01:47:17,967 --> 01:47:20,300
but it's also extremely
3619
01:47:17,967 --> 01:47:20,300
frustrating because it means
3620
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:22,834
there's that much more room
3621
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:22,834
for argument and doubt.
3622
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,000
- [Tim] Kent Weeks
3623
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,000
made no indication
3624
01:47:26,100 --> 01:47:28,633
that he'd be in favor
3625
01:47:26,100 --> 01:47:28,633
of anything as major
3626
01:47:28,734 --> 01:47:31,467
as shifting Egypt's
3627
01:47:28,734 --> 01:47:31,467
history by centuries.
3628
01:47:31,567 --> 01:47:35,533
But the reality is, a shift
3629
01:47:31,567 --> 01:47:35,533
wouldn't just affect Egypt,
3630
01:47:35,633 --> 01:47:37,867
because the archaeological
3631
01:47:35,633 --> 01:47:37,867
dates for Canaan
3632
01:47:37,967 --> 01:47:39,367
and the surrounding region
3633
01:47:39,467 --> 01:47:42,667
are all dependent
3634
01:47:39,467 --> 01:47:42,667
on Egypt's history.
3635
01:47:42,767 --> 01:47:44,100
- [Kent] When all
3636
01:47:42,767 --> 01:47:44,100
is said and done,
3637
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:47,100
it's the Egyptian
3638
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:47,100
chronology that underpins
3639
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:49,000
everything else
3640
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:49,000
that's being done
3641
01:47:49,100 --> 01:47:51,166
throughout the rest
3642
01:47:49,100 --> 01:47:51,166
of the known world.
3643
01:47:51,266 --> 01:47:53,567
It's a big responsibility
3644
01:47:51,266 --> 01:47:53,567
and it's one of the reasons
3645
01:47:53,667 --> 01:47:55,266
that people look
3646
01:47:53,667 --> 01:47:55,266
at it so closely
3647
01:47:55,367 --> 01:47:57,934
because in terms of
3648
01:47:55,367 --> 01:47:57,934
reconstructing ancient history,
3649
01:47:58,033 --> 01:48:00,133
a lot hinges on the answers.
3650
01:48:04,166 --> 01:48:05,967
- [Tim] So if Egypt's
3651
01:48:04,166 --> 01:48:05,967
historical dates
3652
01:48:06,066 --> 01:48:09,000
are not that certain
3653
01:48:06,066 --> 01:48:09,000
and need adjusting,
3654
01:48:09,100 --> 01:48:11,333
then Canaan's history
3655
01:48:09,100 --> 01:48:11,333
would also require
3656
01:48:11,433 --> 01:48:15,400
the same kind of shift,
3657
01:48:11,433 --> 01:48:15,400
because they're connected.
3658
01:48:15,500 --> 01:48:16,734
But a lot of people
3659
01:48:15,500 --> 01:48:16,734
don't want to do that.
3660
01:48:16,834 --> 01:48:19,367
- [John] No, no, no,
3661
01:48:16,834 --> 01:48:19,367
because Egyptian chronology
3662
01:48:19,467 --> 01:48:22,300
has been assumed to be fixed now
3663
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:24,166
for a very long period of time.
3664
01:48:24,266 --> 01:48:28,834
So the whole idea of taking
3665
01:48:24,266 --> 01:48:28,834
it apart and starting again
3666
01:48:28,934 --> 01:48:31,000
is an anathema to
3667
01:48:28,934 --> 01:48:31,000
most Egyptologists.
3668
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:32,367
- [Tim] Uh-huh,
3669
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:32,367
because it would undo
3670
01:48:32,467 --> 01:48:33,734
a lot of their
3671
01:48:32,467 --> 01:48:33,734
books, wouldn't it?
3672
01:48:33,834 --> 01:48:36,266
- Well it certainly
3673
01:48:33,834 --> 01:48:36,266
would, yes. (laughs)
3674
01:48:36,367 --> 01:48:37,600
- [Voiceover] But
3675
01:48:36,367 --> 01:48:37,600
there's mounting evidence
3676
01:48:37,700 --> 01:48:39,934
that the current reconstruction
3677
01:48:37,700 --> 01:48:39,934
of Egyptian history
3678
01:48:40,033 --> 01:48:44,767
has major problems that have
3679
01:48:40,033 --> 01:48:44,767
nothing to do with the Bible.
3680
01:48:44,867 --> 01:48:47,433
- There's a whole host of
3681
01:48:44,867 --> 01:48:47,433
reasons for being skeptical
3682
01:48:47,533 --> 01:48:50,333
about the current
3683
01:48:47,533 --> 01:48:50,333
Egyptian chronology,
3684
01:48:50,433 --> 01:48:52,867
and some of them to
3685
01:48:50,433 --> 01:48:52,867
do with Egypt itself,
3686
01:48:52,967 --> 01:48:54,834
but a lot of them
3687
01:48:52,967 --> 01:48:54,834
from outside Egypt,
3688
01:48:54,934 --> 01:48:57,734
which a number of people
3689
01:48:54,934 --> 01:48:57,734
are beginning to look at.
3690
01:48:58,433 --> 01:48:59,767
- [Voiceover] Other
3691
01:48:58,433 --> 01:48:59,767
good scholars maintain
3692
01:48:59,867 --> 01:49:02,133
that you don't need to
3693
01:48:59,867 --> 01:49:02,133
change Egypt's timeline
3694
01:49:02,233 --> 01:49:05,066
in order to see
3695
01:49:02,233 --> 01:49:05,066
evidence for the Exodus.
3696
01:49:05,166 --> 01:49:07,767
James Hoffmeier believes
3697
01:49:05,166 --> 01:49:07,767
textual clues in the Bible
3698
01:49:07,867 --> 01:49:09,100
point to the Exodus happening
3699
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:12,467
at the 1250 BC Ramesses date.
3700
01:49:12,567 --> 01:49:14,567
Bryant Wood and
3701
01:49:12,567 --> 01:49:14,567
Charles Aling believe
3702
01:49:14,667 --> 01:49:17,934
the Exodus occurred
3703
01:49:14,667 --> 01:49:17,934
around 1450 BC,
3704
01:49:18,033 --> 01:49:21,100
using the conventional
3705
01:49:18,033 --> 01:49:21,100
dates for Egypt and Canaan.
3706
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:23,266
They believe a case can
3707
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:23,266
be made for Israelites
3708
01:49:23,367 --> 01:49:26,333
living in Egypt
3709
01:49:23,367 --> 01:49:26,333
prior to that time,
3710
01:49:26,433 --> 01:49:29,533
and later Israel appearing
3711
01:49:26,433 --> 01:49:29,533
as a nation in Canaan.
3712
01:49:29,633 --> 01:49:33,200
So an Exodus of some kind
3713
01:49:29,633 --> 01:49:33,200
must have taken place.
3714
01:49:34,867 --> 01:49:36,700
- [Tim] But the only
3715
01:49:34,867 --> 01:49:36,700
place that I saw a pattern
3716
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:39,767
matching all the steps
3717
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:39,767
was in the Middle Kingdom,
3718
01:49:39,867 --> 01:49:41,600
not the New Kingdom.
3719
01:49:41,700 --> 01:49:43,300
And if that's not a coincidence,
3720
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:46,133
it would require some
3721
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:46,133
kind of major change.
3722
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:50,033
Either the Exodus
3723
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:50,033
happened long before 1450,
3724
01:49:50,133 --> 01:49:53,100
or the dates for Egypt's
3725
01:49:50,133 --> 01:49:53,100
timeline are off.
3726
01:49:54,934 --> 01:49:56,133
- [Voiceover] The
3727
01:49:54,934 --> 01:49:56,133
debate over the dates
3728
01:49:56,233 --> 01:49:58,834
of ancient history
3729
01:49:56,233 --> 01:49:58,834
is intensifying.
3730
01:49:58,934 --> 01:50:00,667
While the conclusions
3731
01:49:58,934 --> 01:50:00,667
of those who support
3732
01:50:00,767 --> 01:50:03,166
major adjustments
3733
01:50:00,767 --> 01:50:03,166
differ in their details,
3734
01:50:03,266 --> 01:50:04,734
they're all of
3735
01:50:03,266 --> 01:50:04,734
the same mind that
3736
01:50:04,834 --> 01:50:07,533
these things are
3737
01:50:04,834 --> 01:50:07,533
worth investigating,
3738
01:50:07,633 --> 01:50:11,967
and that chronology is not yet
3739
01:50:07,633 --> 01:50:11,967
fixed and is not yet final.
3740
01:50:13,367 --> 01:50:14,934
Researchers like Rohl and Bimson
3741
01:50:15,033 --> 01:50:16,834
believe the main
3742
01:50:15,033 --> 01:50:16,834
problem lies in these
3743
01:50:16,934 --> 01:50:19,834
lesser-known dark
3744
01:50:16,934 --> 01:50:19,834
periods of Egypt's past.
3745
01:50:19,934 --> 01:50:22,467
They think scholars have
3746
01:50:19,934 --> 01:50:22,467
miscalculated their lengths,
3747
01:50:22,567 --> 01:50:23,900
causing distortions in the dates
3748
01:50:24,033 --> 01:50:25,900
for everything before them.
3749
01:50:26,867 --> 01:50:31,133
The biggest suspect is this
3750
01:50:26,867 --> 01:50:31,133
very long third dark period,
3751
01:50:31,233 --> 01:50:32,900
which new information suggests
3752
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:35,433
has been over-inflated
3753
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:35,433
by centuries.
3754
01:50:35,533 --> 01:50:38,200
If it were reduced,
3755
01:50:35,533 --> 01:50:38,200
the history of Egypt
3756
01:50:38,300 --> 01:50:40,500
would need to move
3757
01:50:38,300 --> 01:50:40,500
forward in time.
3758
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,100
- [Tim] For many years,
3759
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:45,100
I was intimidated
3760
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,633
by the giant of Egypt's dating.
3761
01:50:47,734 --> 01:50:49,967
But what made me take
3762
01:50:47,734 --> 01:50:49,967
a second look was when
3763
01:50:50,066 --> 01:50:52,967
I learned that it's been
3764
01:50:50,066 --> 01:50:52,967
necessary to insert gaps
3765
01:50:53,066 --> 01:50:56,266
into the histories of all
3766
01:50:53,066 --> 01:50:56,266
the surrounding civilizations
3767
01:50:56,367 --> 01:50:59,767
in order to match the dating
3768
01:50:56,367 --> 01:50:59,767
of Egypt's third dark period.
3769
01:51:00,533 --> 01:51:02,400
Yet the archaeology
3770
01:51:00,533 --> 01:51:02,400
of these cultures
3771
01:51:02,500 --> 01:51:05,433
does not seem to
3772
01:51:02,500 --> 01:51:05,433
support such gaps.
3773
01:51:05,533 --> 01:51:07,367
Something was wrong.
3774
01:51:09,100 --> 01:51:10,533
- [Voiceover] What
3775
01:51:09,100 --> 01:51:10,533
might history look like
3776
01:51:10,633 --> 01:51:12,600
if the dark periods
3777
01:51:10,633 --> 01:51:12,600
were adjusted the way
3778
01:51:12,700 --> 01:51:16,033
that some scholars believe
3779
01:51:12,700 --> 01:51:16,033
the evidence demands?
3780
01:51:16,133 --> 01:51:20,600
(tinkling music)
3781
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:27,800
- [David] What's not changing
3782
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:27,800
is the Bible timeline,
3783
01:51:27,900 --> 01:51:29,567
because that's not
3784
01:51:27,900 --> 01:51:29,567
affected by it.
3785
01:51:29,667 --> 01:51:32,000
If you're changing
3786
01:51:29,667 --> 01:51:32,000
the Egyptian timeline,
3787
01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:34,767
you're moving it against
3788
01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:34,767
the Bible timeline.
3789
01:51:34,867 --> 01:51:37,266
So, all of a sudden,
3790
01:51:34,867 --> 01:51:37,266
things that were not
3791
01:51:37,367 --> 01:51:39,867
in the right time
3792
01:51:37,367 --> 01:51:39,867
period between the two
3793
01:51:39,967 --> 01:51:42,600
are suddenly lining
3794
01:51:39,967 --> 01:51:42,600
up in a different way.
3795
01:51:43,567 --> 01:51:44,767
And that's the exciting bit,
3796
01:51:44,867 --> 01:51:46,200
because that's when
3797
01:51:44,867 --> 01:51:46,200
we suddenly start
3798
01:51:46,300 --> 01:51:48,266
to find evidence for
3799
01:51:46,300 --> 01:51:48,266
the biblical story.
3800
01:51:49,633 --> 01:51:50,767
- [Tim] It's startling to think
3801
01:51:50,867 --> 01:51:52,533
how significant this could be.
3802
01:51:53,300 --> 01:51:56,767
Because chronology, the dates
3803
01:51:53,300 --> 01:51:56,767
assigned to these events,
3804
01:51:56,867 --> 01:51:59,834
is the thing being used
3805
01:51:56,867 --> 01:51:59,834
to convince the world
3806
01:51:59,934 --> 01:52:02,233
that the Bible is
3807
01:51:59,934 --> 01:52:02,233
just a fairy tale,
3808
01:52:03,266 --> 01:52:05,033
but look at the pattern:
3809
01:52:05,700 --> 01:52:07,133
evidence matching Joseph
3810
01:52:07,233 --> 01:52:09,834
and the early Israelites'
3811
01:52:07,233 --> 01:52:09,834
arrival in Egypt;
3812
01:52:10,667 --> 01:52:12,700
their tremendous multiplication;
3813
01:52:13,667 --> 01:52:15,567
their descent into slavery;
3814
01:52:16,467 --> 01:52:18,633
the judgment and
3815
01:52:16,467 --> 01:52:18,633
collapse of Egypt;
3816
01:52:19,433 --> 01:52:22,633
the deliverance and exodus
3817
01:52:19,433 --> 01:52:22,633
of the Semitic population;
3818
01:52:23,633 --> 01:52:26,333
and finally, in Canaan,
3819
01:52:23,633 --> 01:52:26,333
evidence matching
3820
01:52:26,433 --> 01:52:28,567
the conquest of
3821
01:52:26,433 --> 01:52:28,567
the Promised Land.
3822
01:52:30,734 --> 01:52:34,166
I know there's a lot of
3823
01:52:30,734 --> 01:52:34,166
disagreement over the dating,
3824
01:52:34,266 --> 01:52:36,233
but what strikes
3825
01:52:34,266 --> 01:52:36,233
me is that if you
3826
01:52:36,333 --> 01:52:39,333
put all the dates to
3827
01:52:36,333 --> 01:52:39,333
the side for a moment,
3828
01:52:39,433 --> 01:52:42,266
what emerges from the
3829
01:52:39,433 --> 01:52:42,266
archaeology is this pattern
3830
01:52:42,367 --> 01:52:45,767
that matches the Bible
3831
01:52:42,367 --> 01:52:45,767
every step of the way,
3832
01:52:45,867 --> 01:52:49,066
and doesn't that deserve
3833
01:52:45,867 --> 01:52:49,066
to be taken seriously?
3834
01:52:50,667 --> 01:52:54,433
But for now, those who hold
3835
01:52:50,667 --> 01:52:54,433
to established conventions
3836
01:52:54,533 --> 01:52:58,367
will not allow these
3837
01:52:54,533 --> 01:52:58,367
connections to be made.
3838
01:53:00,633 --> 01:53:05,166
(somber music)
3839
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:12,500
I'm not an Egyptologist,
3840
01:53:09,400 --> 01:53:12,500
I'm a filmmaker.
3841
01:53:13,300 --> 01:53:16,533
And I'm not endorsing any
3842
01:53:13,300 --> 01:53:16,533
one dating theory out there.
3843
01:53:16,633 --> 01:53:18,667
I'm just searching
3844
01:53:16,633 --> 01:53:18,667
for the truth.
3845
01:53:20,700 --> 01:53:23,367
Because isn't that what
3846
01:53:20,700 --> 01:53:23,367
the pursuit of both science
3847
01:53:23,467 --> 01:53:27,600
and faith should be,
3848
01:53:23,467 --> 01:53:27,600
a search for truth?
3849
01:53:29,166 --> 01:53:31,700
- [Mansour] At the
3850
01:53:29,166 --> 01:53:31,700
end, the audience,
3851
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:33,900
the people themselves,
3852
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:33,900
they will judge.
3853
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:37,400
They will know if you
3854
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:37,400
are a scientific man,
3855
01:53:37,500 --> 01:53:39,934
a logical theory, or
3856
01:53:37,500 --> 01:53:39,934
you are exaggerating
3857
01:53:40,033 --> 01:53:43,500
or you have some story
3858
01:53:40,033 --> 01:53:43,500
from your own mind.
3859
01:53:45,333 --> 01:53:48,734
- [Tim] Are these findings
3860
01:53:45,333 --> 01:53:48,734
just an exaggeration?
3861
01:53:48,834 --> 01:53:51,900
Or is looking for the
3862
01:53:48,834 --> 01:53:51,900
Exodus at the earlier date
3863
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:54,100
the key step in
3864
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:54,100
bringing the Bible
3865
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:56,133
out of the shadows of myth
3866
01:53:56,233 --> 01:53:58,767
and into the light
3867
01:53:56,233 --> 01:53:58,767
of true history?
3868
01:54:00,567 --> 01:54:03,633
People wonder why they haven't
3869
01:54:00,567 --> 01:54:03,633
heard about this before,
3870
01:54:03,734 --> 01:54:05,033
but what I found out was that
3871
01:54:05,133 --> 01:54:07,033
a lot of people don't
3872
01:54:05,133 --> 01:54:07,033
want to talk about it.
3873
01:54:07,133 --> 01:54:09,800
Archaeologists,
3874
01:54:07,133 --> 01:54:09,800
people in the media,
3875
01:54:09,900 --> 01:54:11,900
no one's willing to
3876
01:54:09,900 --> 01:54:11,900
actually tell this story,
3877
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,633
and I had to ask that
3878
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,633
same question of myself:
3879
01:54:14,734 --> 01:54:17,633
was I willing to follow this
3880
01:54:14,734 --> 01:54:17,633
story to where it really led?
3881
01:54:18,700 --> 01:54:20,700
But there is something
3882
01:54:18,700 --> 01:54:20,700
to these ancient stories
3883
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:22,700
and we just felt
3884
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:22,700
that, "You know what?
3885
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:25,133
"We just have to let people
3886
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:25,133
know what the truth was."
3887
01:54:27,967 --> 01:54:32,734
(serene music)
3888
01:55:45,734 --> 01:55:48,000
- [Voiceover] After the
3889
01:55:45,734 --> 01:55:48,000
Israelites left Egypt,
3890
01:55:48,100 --> 01:55:51,300
it is written they miraculously
3891
01:55:48,100 --> 01:55:51,300
crossed a mighty sea
3892
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,533
and traveled on to Mount Sinai.
3893
01:55:53,633 --> 01:55:56,533
No trace of their journey
3894
01:55:53,633 --> 01:55:56,533
has ever been found.
3895
01:55:58,100 --> 01:56:01,000
But, if there really
3896
01:55:58,100 --> 01:56:01,000
was an Exodus,
3897
01:56:01,100 --> 01:56:04,900
then the mountain was
3898
01:56:01,100 --> 01:56:04,900
somewhere out there.
3899
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:09,600
(serene music)
3900
01:56:11,900 --> 01:56:13,900
(uplifting music)
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