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An historic church in Llanelli

has been ravaged by fire this evening.

Fire crews from Llanelli and surrounding areas

are continuing to battle the fire.

The search continues for an American filmmaker

and her companions who went missing

while exploring an abandoned church in Wales.

Police are investigating the disappearance

of several filmmakers from the Carmarthen Bay Film Festival

in Llanelli, Wales.

Hollywood producer Jamie Lee Smith

is among those named missing,

along with English movie director David Campion

and several others.

Adding to the mystery is

that the location in question

has subsequently burned to the ground.

It's not been confirmed whether

or not the missing filmmakers were in the church

at the time of the blaze,

but there was evidence found suggesting

they were in the church just before

or during the tragic fire.

Crowds have gathered in the streets

to watch the dramatic blaze

just as the roof collapsed under the heat.

The fire's cause is unknown

but they haven't ruled out arson.

Police officials and fire department arson investigators say

they'll issue a full report

as soon as the investigation wraps.

Interest in this story has exploded worldwide

as officials consider any and all motives

and causes for the disappearance,

including occult activity.

Witnesses report seeing faces in the fire while

the church was burning.

There is a lot of controversy

surrounding the fire and the disappearances too.

Hoax or not a hoax, you decide.

A source has come forward with possible video evidence,

but that footage has not yet been made public.

Hi.

Hi.

Could you introduce yourself?

Yes, my name's Gary Slaymaker,

comedian and Wale's foremost

Trump critic as well, sir, yeah.

And what you doing at the festival?

I'm actually on the jury, I have been since the beginning,

primarily because of the job, I suppose,

as well as a film reviewer,

it's great when you get to support independent talent,

you see these young, creative directors coming up and

it's just a chance, I suppose, to feed them information,

to support as much as you can, really and

just take it from there and hopefully

you see the bright new stars of the future.

This is a film about my last day at school,

because it was my last day at school and I wanted

to make a film,

so this is it.

Any questions?

So, what was your favorite part about making the movie?

I think my favorite part was when the camera

almost fell off the gate.

It fell off and I got scared for a bit.

So, what made you film your last day of school?

I had my camera in school.

That's all.

Okay, Q and A over, thank you.

Hey.

Hi.

Slaymaker, but you probably knew that.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, the good thing I can say about your film is

it was too short to send me to sleep but

is this your first film?

No.

No, try making it your last film, okay, well done, sir.

Okay.

Yeah, my name's Kelvin Guy, I'm the CEO and founder

of the Camarthen Bay Film Festival and the John Haven award.

Well, back in 2006, I started to research

a relative of mine, a guy called Garth Hughes

who was Wales very first Hollywood silent film star.

So I made documentary about him and through that

it kind of kindled my interest in film and all things film.

Through that, I decided in 2011 to found

and start a film festival here in Llanelli Camarthenshire.

The 2015 festival was definitely a milestone for us.

We had the submissions rising from 140 the previous year

to 208 for this year's festival, which is a huge jump

actually from our first festival with only 35 submissions,

so definitely rising submissions, definitely a rise in

people actually attending.

I was walking past one day and I said,

well, I'm gonna take a look and see what the score

is and things and was having a look around

and I saw something kind of on the floor

and picked it up and could see that it was a tape,

and I decided well, I may as well have a look and see

what's on this tape and that's it really,

that's how I came across the footage.

I'm Reverend Dr. Eric Benson.

I am a professor of history and comparative religions

and currently serve as the director of the Center

for Celtic Community.

I received a telephone call about

some memory card, some video clips that were found

at a church and

it seems like a complicated project but

the more I heard about it,

the more intrigued I was.

I am the owner and manager of the hotel.

So, it's been in the family for five generations,

although we start very young in Llanelli

and we start procreating, so it's actually only been

in the family since about '89.

So every year we have a film festival here.

I mean, I don't watch any of the films, absolute shite but,

a lot of people do like it, so that's where I met

some of the film makers that we've had here and that's

how I know Gary and that other lot.

This is the sort of edge of the estate.

That's where we buried the cat,

pretty much, actually, he was only a little cat but

did a job.

This wall, I had that put in.

A lot of people thinks this looks like a castle wall,

Americans mainly, wouldn't know a castle if it bit them.

What else we got 'round here?

What do you wanna know?

The lawn, this is a lawn, classic.

Wanking shed there, that's mine, no one else comes in there.

Car park,

with cars and trees,

you can't call it a tree park,

well, I tried calling it a tree park and

council shut that down.

And please welcome Hooray for Holyhead.

Welcome to a comedy panel game for film buffs,

which we've called Hooray to Holyhead,

no Hooray for Holyhead, I should say.

Basically it's a question and answer,

lot of silly questions, you're more than welcome to join in

if you got better answers than our panel tonight.

My name's Gary Slaymaker

and my panelists for tonight's session

of Hooray for Holyhead,

first and foremost, comedian and actress Payton Quinn,

secondly, Mr. TJ Williams, also a comedian and actor.

Would you say hello to the panel, please.

Well, we start tonight's quiz

with a five word film synopsis,

so I'll ask you, Trev, first for a five word

film synopsis of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, please.

Homoerotic addition allegory about rings.

I didn't say that, that's you, filthy people.

Alright, it's Trev first, TJ Williams.

Trying to be a comedian right now,

it's going okay.

Well, I was involved in a project with Gary and

he was bringing it over here and

he wanted, obviously, the best people to be involved

with the showing off down here, so he brought me along.

Payton, your five word film synopsis is Pretty Woman.

Boy, prostitution seems like fun.

The next one's based on a hashtag

and it's add a letter, ruin a film.

For example, Made Max, Fury Road.

So what have you got?

I will start with Payton this time.

Analconda.

Midnight Runs.

Been there, done that.

Yeah.

The next one, well, there's plenty of them around but

let's get your twist on this,

the title being movie prequels.

The Vines of Wrath.

500 Days of Spring.

Please.

I don't know if maybe Payton's only checking one

of the many ways to get in touch,

so if I just do one of everything everyday,

one Facebook message, one Twitter message, one email,

a couple of letters,

when you say it like that, sure,

it sounds a bit unhinged maybe but

I was worried about her.

A Plethora of Mohicans.

To Bruise a Mockingbird.

Going Girl.

The Girl Queuing Up at a Tattoo Shop With a Picture

of a Dragon.

Another hashtag question,

this time, the hashtag is Tory Films,

using some film titles that would suit our current

political leaders, the conservative party,

Payton, we'll start with you.

Close Encounters of the Third Reich.

Pawn Remakes.

Over a handful that are actual movie titles already,

like Interstellar.

2001 Girls, One Cup, maybe.

Planet of the Gapes.

Jesus.

Payton Quinn, Trev Williams,

thank you very, very much for joining me

for a special version of Hooray for Holyhead

and thank you all for being here.

All the best to ya, thanks very much.

Well, the show was fun

and our spots that we did afterwards,

they went down very well.

Obviously Gary being Gary,

things got a bit weird afterwards but

not as weird as the next day.

My name is Ceri, I'm 16.

I make films

for me.

I submit a film to the film festival earlier this year and

it was accepted and it was shown and they they were there

and I thought, yeah, that's how I met them,

that's how, that's where I met them.

I went along with them and they said that we should

go to the church and see what it was like and

so I went along with them to the church to see

what it was like.

Drambuie, why'd you call him Drambouie,

'cause he's one fancy liquor.

What was that?

Are you recording?

What you doing with the bag?

It's my stuff, I can't help it.

A girl always needs things to carry.

Guys, do you want to go and see a haunted church?

Oh yeah, I'm in.

Yeah?

Yeah.

Come on, yeah?

Let's go,

haunted church, haunted church.

Haunted all the way.

With all of the break-ins happening at churches

and religious centers throughout Wales

over the last couple years that have been attributed to

Wiccan practice, black magic, witchcraft,

the townspeople are very concerned and are not

quite sure if maybe the disappearances or even

the fire might not have

some sort of supernatural connection.

Supernatural, no, there's no way.

I don't believe in things like that anyway and

all I'm interested in, really, is not putting people off

coming to the town but encouraging people to come

to town for other reasons rather than

supernatural kind of nonsense, really.

Yeah, yeah, a lot of people ask about the history

of witchcraft in the area.

Now, I don't know that much about it but

we've had a couple of witches stay here in the hotel,

not really, not real witches just old slags, really and

that's not the same.

Another car park, that's just, you know,

if you wanna park, not just one car park,

another car park, everything you could want.

Trees, that one, they look a bit like witches actually.

Just now put it together now,

this is a witch theme, definitely, isn't it?

Pointy things, yeah, well witchy,

hadn't even thought of that, that's just coincidence,

creepy isn't it?

Not specifically with the church but in Llanelli,

all of the time, always hear about things,

there's the one about the great bear living in the woods,

which is a bit of a monster story.

Apparently it goes around with like arms twice

the length of men and all sorts of things,

a bit scary, that's in Llanelli,

obviously the highways above the sky, where the UFOs,

hence the exploding one, that went into the church,

enough said and the ghosts,

it's a real hot spot in Llanelli.

I mean, there is a history of supernatural stuff

in this town, yeah.

They say there's witches who still do stuff around,

there's ghost and things like that,

what have I seen, I don't know.

I mean, I remember, I remember one time,

I was about 15, couldn't have been older than 15,

I was coming home from football and I go through the park

to get back to my house and

there was no light, just a little bit of moonlight

and there's no one around, there's no one around,

out of nowhere I start hearing this noise,

it's terrifying, it's terrifying.

I don't know what it was, well I found out what it was,

it was a dog doing another dog but up until that point,

it was horrific, thought it was witches

but it was just dogs screwing.

I mean, over the years I've heard of no supernatural

occurrences in the church, we've had some unusual incidents,

I mean, I can remember being there at a wedding where

the three bridesmaids were busy being sick in the vestry

on their way into the church but that was down

to a hen night rather than anything supernatural occurring.

I mean, there have been stories about supernatural things

and witchcraft locally, those stories that we used

to get from time to time in the local newspaper

and we've had stories going back over the years.

I remember there was a cell of satanic worshipers

in the Kidwelly area but there have been these stories

circulating but nothing identified with the church itself,

certainly, I've never heard any story of supernatural

activity there.

This is so scary.

Okay?

Oh shit, there's bats.

Does that work?

There's no key.

It's okay, we'll find another way.

Come on, don't be scared.

Where the is that coming from?

It's haunted.

It's not haunted.

It's not fucking haunted.

There's no electricity,

there's no generator, it's haunted.

Are you okay?

Yeah, yeah.

It's haunted.

It's not haunted, it's a radio.

There's no electricity.

I can't deal with this.

What, Ceri.

Ceri?

Go get him.

You get him.

Alright so, this is,

they're outside the church, they're coming up

to one of the entrances and they hear

what they believe to be music, organ music,

something like that.

You know, that could be coming from anywhere.

Radios, mobile phones,

sound at night travels very funny and you can have

something that sounds like it's coming from one direction,

be coming from somewhere entirely different.

They say they felt that it was coming from inside

the church, there's really no way to tell on what

we have here.

I ran back to the hotel because I got scared and I

wet myself and I

checked out and I went home.

Okay.

It's fucking open.

Yes, of course.

Okay, then I'm telling you guys, it's haunted.

Come on, you guys, this is creepy.

This is a serious ghost if Rhod was right.

Well, Jamie, Jamie instigates everything.

Sort of, she's like a medical model of impulse

control disorder and I realize I suggested some of

this stuff so I feel like

maybe I should take more responsibility for

that but, I wasn't the one pushing everyone to go.

Did y'all see Ceri, he just literally peed

his pants and ran away.

Where is he today?

I don't know, I haven't seen him since he ran away,

literally I've not seen him.

I guess he screened his film so he doesn't really

need to come back.

Apparently.

Well, here we are,

entrepreneur gone to the great cinema gods in the sky.

I thought his film was good.

Gary didn't think it was good.

We had words.

I told him where I stood on it.

It's no surprise we haven't seen him today.

I think everybody heard your words.

We should phone the police or something though,

we should go and talk to someone about Ceri,

this is a bit odd that he's not here,

especially after going to the church last night.

That church is...

Did you mention?

I haven't said anything, we scared him a little bit,

just a little bit.

Yeah, I think if like a family member of mine

had gone to a spooky, perhaps haunted church,

after being utterly humiliated in front

of an entire film festival, than, you know,

I could worry for their safety.

Well, it was, it's not that abandoned.

There was music, classical music playing in the church,

no kidding.

We all heard it.

It was there.

Right, okay.

Organist practice?

A half one in the morning.

Exactly.

In a church that's been abandoned.

Late organist practice.

In an abandoned church that's completely, yeah,

no, we tried to get in but it freaked us out,

we couldn't, uh-uh.

Oh god, it must be ghosts.

Is there a band?

Maybe the ghosts are making a band and

there's gonna be a Christmas single.

It worked, we were hearing a variety of instruments,

so you know, it's possible.

Come on, seriously, that place is haunted.

There's music in there, there's no electricity,

there's no possible way that anybody

could have been in there and you guys heard the music.

We have an iPhone video of the music.

You laugh though but it's part of our culture,

it's part of our heritage, it's part of our history,

paganism, druidism.

The scaring of tourists,

that's part of our...

Leaving radios on in churches.

Yeah.

It was a piano player, it wasn't a radio.

It was not a radio.

I'm telling you, there was nobody there.

You guys weren't there, you don't,

you know what, we're gonna have to go,

we're going tonight.

Are you up for it?

Absolutely not.

You think you can handle it?

If you all are scared to go, we can just forget

this ever happened because...

Ah, classic reverse psychology.

It's going to end up on YouTube.

Then we're just gonna tease you for the rest of your lives

because of it.

That's brilliant thinking but I'm not gonna be

Fred to your Shaggy, Gary's not gonna be Scooby.

Alright, I'll get it done, hurry, Egon,

fetch the proton packs.

We should tell someone that we're going.

Will there be ectoplasm?

Do you wanna go down?

I'm gonna go down, yeah.

You wanna see it?

I'd like to make contact with some spirits

that are down there, definitely.

Stay where you are, I'll get you a double Jack Daniels.

Yeah, I don't care, I'm used to it,

people always tend to take the Mick,

until you've seen what I've seen, then jog on.

Well, what have you seen?

Why don't you tell the camera?

Can we, yeah.

Get that single.

Broadcast it, we need to know about this,

the world needs to know.

The world needs to know.

During the time of the Black Death,

a few centuries ago,

all the children in the local village

disappeared overnight, no one ever saw them again.

It's been quite well documented,

there's been many books, documentaries,

TV programs about it, it's very well known here in Wales.

I mean, Wales itself is got a history of witchcraft

and paganism, during the, I think it was the 17th century,

when the crusades were happening, all the English were

burning their witches to the stake

but in Wales, we would welcome them and we would

give them safe haven and

so yeah, I know a lot of people find it funny

and they think it's a bit silly and a lot of people

don't believe it but

it did happen, it's part of our history and

I seriously don't believe that people should

be so quick to judge.

I think they should

come down and experience it and make up their own mind.

Are we doing this?

Yes.

Are we going?

You're up for it?

It sounds like the beginning

of the worst horror movie ever.

I'm really not up for it but I can be bribed.

I'm definitely gonna bribe you because I wanna go

and I just feel like we all should go as a group,

you know, so that...

There's a magic word that can make me come.

Please?

Okay, new word.

Please?

That word is open bar.

Yeah, I mean, basically, I walk past the building everyday

on my way to work, so you know, it's been in estate

for about 10 years or so, it hasn't been used for anything,

so we've done stories fairly regularly with the paper,

calling for it to be cleaned up

and then this happened, so it was pretty sad really

and yeah, it was really mysterious when we heard

that they'd gone missing right after the film festival.

We didn't know what to think about it, really.

You know, the fact that no trace of them has been found,

obviously the church fire happening

so soon afterwards as well,

but yeah, it drew a lot of interest to Llanelli here.

Again, there's been a lot of theories floating about

on what happened to them, whether it was something

paranormal or whether it's just some sort

of elaborate hoax but

I guess time will tell, you know?

I believe that maybe at first, the filmmakers going

in there were intending to be foul play and then ended up

to be supernatural means of them actually dying.

I've had a few experiences that made me believe

in the supernatural.

I've been around friends, we've had the Ouija board and

I've had weird marks left on them because of it

that they can't explain and just things around that

that really spook me out and make me believe.

Was there any supernatural aspect to it?

I don't think so.

I mean, it was, it was solely motivated by greed, I think,

just after money, I mean, I've heard some things about

some supernatural aspects of the church itself

but I don't think that had anything to do with it,

to be honest.

Well, I've had an experience, not in the city,

in the past I can't explain and I know friends

of mine have had experiences, especially the friends

who live in the area in Llanelli and

yeah, I mean, I can understand why people would think

that it would be something supernatural because

there's a lot of things that go on,

there's a lot of haunted places in Llanelli and stuff

like that and there's reason for that.

It's the history.

With all of the increase in break-ins

to religious centers, churches, over the last

couple of years throughout Wales,

locals are concerned that the events that took place

might be attributable to

dark arts, to witchcraft, disappearances,

mysterious church fire, it is an unusual circumstance.

I've spent most of my whole life

dealing with the issue of faith and

believing things you can't see

and there are things in this story

that I don't understand.

Made it.

This place smells like my Grandma's cellar.

A piece of paper, look at this.

Look, a fire extinguisher.

But there's nothing to burn.

Except us.

We can catch fire.

If these filmmakers are investigating the church

out of fun and encountering locals playing pranks,

pulling tricks, that's harmless, it's a bit of

midnight mischief but if there really is something

supernatural going on there,

I don't believe they fully understand the danger

they're walking into.

Why do people have the entire floor

and just stay in the corner?

I think people pee in bottles and like

leave their bottles in here.

Try it.

Oh my god.

What is this?

Witches were often ascribed of having magical powers

to do good or evil, even to the extent of creating illness.

Massive plagues were often attributed to the presence

of witches or those who practiced the dark arts.

The Black Plague, for example,

there were those that felt that there was a evil element

to the Black Plague.

Physicians of the time would wear masks, hideous masks,

designed to ward off the evil spirits

which might be contributing to the plague.

Guys, the floor is rotting, be careful.

Wow, oh my god.

This whole place is falling apart.

I wonder how many rooms there are?

Alright, this doll that we see that keeps popping up here,

it looks like it could be a poppet doll,

an effigy, in witchcraft, a doll like this would be created

to represent a person.

It would be made out of straw or

old fabric or even herbs or potatoes

and you would do things to the doll with the hope

in the black arts that what you do to the doll

would happen to the person that doll represents.

If somebody's making a poppet doll

and going to this much attention and detail to make one,

I'm wondering what else they're doing?

Oh!

I-yi-yi-yi.

Oh, it's the electronics room.

Organ.

Organ.

That's completely not,

oh my god, no, no, a shovel,

we can shovel the bodies.

Guys, oh, I found a book.

Scary shit.

Scary stuff.

Oh, wow.

I found a shovel to bury the bodies.

What do you guys think then?

Think?

About the place?

I think we've stepped into an obvious haunted church,

it's obvious.

It's completely haunted.

These ghost have run amok, they've destroyed

all this furniture, they've played some.

These guys like burnt.

You can everywhere.

This looks, look at that circle down there.

Rhod, do you think that's where

people were sacrificed?

Yeah, I reckon that sacrificial,

of paint.

Yeah, it looks like paint and he's volunteered

himself to be sacrificed.

Nobody break the circle or the evil gets out,

whoops.

Alright, so here they're coming into this room here

in the church and if you look down at the floor,

you'll see a circle, basically someone had poured

white in a circle on the floor.

I think that this proves definitively that somebody

had a discount on paint available to them

and was able to put it on the floor,

that's all it proves.

Everything I'm doing, everyday is me trying to find

my friends, those people, those people,

Gary, Trev, the other one and

it's my mission, it's my reason,

that's French,

to find them and it's important to me,

I'm passionate about it and I'm bored,

I got nothing else to do at home,

so I meant as well try to find my dead friends

or alive, whatever.

Well, the group of filmmakers that went into the church,

I do hope that they're okay, I mean, I think they are,

one of them is a good friend of mine

and I think they're just scared.

I mean, the church burnt down,

they probably don't wanna be caught up in that

and I don't blame them for that but

I mean, he disappears from time to time anyway,

he's like that, it happens,

so I just think that they're hiding,

keeping low while this is all going on

and then, maybe we'll get some footage later on from them,

who knows, you know?

What do you think then, guys?

Do you wanna try and contact some spirits?

Ah yeah, let's contact some spirits.

I didn't bring my Ouija board with me.

What?

We don't need that.

We don't?

No, that's child's play.

Okay.

We can try it in the circle,

should we try it in the circle?

Yeah.

Did you hear that?

Hello?

Hello?

Rhodri?

Hello?

I'm sure I just saw someone then.

What?

I'm sure I just saw someone.

What, where?

Over here, have a look.

Look, come and have a look at the footage,

I'll just put it back, hang on one sec.

Look, here's another one.

There's one here that has stuff written on it.

It says, "A view of the crypt," and this one's

drawn a picture of the, what used to be the

stained glass window, I assume.

What?

What?

Yeah, there, it says, "A view of the crypt."

Wow, that's freaky.

And they did, it's, that's kind of creepy.

What are, I can't read this.

Something love, what are you waiting for, maybe...

Hi, I'm using a big puzzle.

Oh my god.

I'm getting bored already, can we just,

can we do a seance?

Well, it's not called a seance anymore

but I can try and contact some spirits.

Yeah?

Have you done that before?

Yeah, many times, yeah.

Are you sure you wanna do this?

Yeah.

Guys, should we contact some spirits?

Yeah, so the group of filmmakers,

in terms of them missing,

I think they're probably in their room,

it's probably a publicity act.

I'd like to think that anyway but if they are missing then,

that's really bad.

So one of the police have said, oh,

it might be a publicity stunt.

They just faked their own disappearance.

There's a lot of things those people would do

for a publicity stunt, like eat like the most ribs ever,

there's one or drink all the lager,

I've seen them do that, that was in the paper,

well done them but to fake your disappearance,

yeah, no, that could be it, yeah.

Though actually being there yourself

and experiencing the situation, just by looking at footage,

I know some people say that

these people have kind of vanished off the face

of the Earth and all that kind of stuff and

I think, personally, that they decided just to

go home, you know?

I didn't bring any candles.

There's one over there, I saw one,

somebody's obviously already utilized them.

Alright, so what I will need you to do

is just open your minds.

Okay.

Okay, try not to think negative thoughts.

No negative.

Just clear your mind.

Too late.

Be open minded.

Oh, my brain fell out.

Okay, here it goes.

If there are any spirits in this room,

please make yourselves known to us.

We come in peace, we mean no harm.

Please, make yourselves known.

Did you hear that?

I heard something.

I heard something, did you hear guys that?

Can we just keep going?

Is there any spirits out here?

Oh, yeah.

Please get in contact by making noise.

Please let yourselves be known to us.

We mean no harm.

We just want to communicate with you.

What's going on?

Payton, is everything cool?

I don't remember who's idea the seance was but

that was,

I think it was just a stupid idea,

if it genuinely caused what it caused.

Well, yeah, she's got,

DID is what they call it now but

it's multiple personality thing so,

that's why I'm still kind of

I don't want to say obsessed.

I'm still interested because

I can't be sure who it was that broke up the relationship.

Alright, we should quit doing this now.

Please, if you're affecting one of our group,

please stop it now.

You're affecting her.

She's messing around.

No, she's not, something's wrong with her.

Payton, you okay?

Please take it off our group member now.

You okay?

She's just doing that.

No, she's not, she's having anxiety.

Yeah, well, she heard it too.

She's visibly upset.

She doesn't even have her light on.

Payton?

Apart from this night, do you know how many years

people have been trying to get something on tape?

Years, since tape was invented.

This is great for my education.

This is great, man.

When's your psychology degree coming through?

I don't know what the hell's going on there.

As far as I'm concerned, it's just,

those two got a history, obviously,

I have a feeling they're just working together

and pissing us about.

But you just saw what was going on,

how can you say that?

You saw it with your own eyes, we got it on camera.

Yeah, but what did we see?

I see the bird going off somewhere.

So, I think it's hiding

under bits of wood that have fallen

or there's a couple of little holes they

could have got out of,

getting themselves scraped on broken glass,

so well done.

Yeah, this isn't good, let's just go.

Trev, let's go and find her.

Listen, they'll be alright, they're here somewhere.

I've got to go, my blood sugar's.

What, blood sugar, yeah.

Really, do you want an actual medical

emergency happening here as well?

Medical emergency, right.

Yeah, you're scared now you're going for it,

why don't you pick up your girlfriend

and we'll all go back together, huh?

Just stay here,

I want to check that she isn't covered in blood

running down the main street.

Plus I also have to get some sweets.

I lost Payton, I can't find her.

She went off.

How big is this place?

Wait, Trev, don't go.

Trev, come on, for God's sake.

I'm not chasing another person, this is creepy.

This is horrible.

You come with me, we'll go

and have a look for her, alright?

Yeah, yeah, cool.

Gary, you don't need to be scared,

just have a look around, enjoy yourself, alright?

Yeah.

If nobody's hunting, who's the mutt

that killed Gary Slaymaker, alright

and it could be a spurned lover or anyone

who's met him, that's fair to say, or Trev,

him and Trev is an interesting thing,

something's going on there, sometimes they get on,

sometimes they don't, there's definitely a history

of something there, I don't know if it's something to do

with a woman, that woman, the one specific woman,

there's something there, you know

but I don't like Trev, I've never liked Trev

and not cause he's diabetic, you know?

Some of my best friends are diabetic,

not friends but you know,

'cause you can't have a milkshake with a diabetic friend

and it just ruins the night, anyway, the point is,

Trev is, at first he's all, ah, Trev,

what a nice guy and then sometimes you just

see the darkness come down over him and it's just like,

that's where you'll be like, you're talking to him,

he's laughing and then he'll just go,

like a fugue state, you know, creepy.

I saw him kill a cat once, so there's that.

I've already told you

that I don't know,

just 'cause there's no evidence of anything supernatural,

like which there never will be, right,

you think, well, I have to know,

like I have something to do with it,

is that what you're saying, ask me that,

you really think?

They've got all the footage, right?

Do you see me doing anything at all?

The police have checked it all.

Yeah, no, I think the batteries are

going in my light as well.

Oh, what?

Just keep it going for two minutes.

Payton, Payton?

She's not a door.

There's something there.

Shh.

It's what?

I think it's a bird, it might be a rat.

What is this?

Get out!

Huh?

Get out of here.

Guys?

Guys?

Oh, god, Gary.

Oh, crap.

Guys?

Guys, where are you?

Anybody out there?

Anybody out there?

Gary?

You dropped your camera.

It's not like Gary to vanish suddenly.

He vanishes slowly, he just sort of creeps away, you know,

it takes awhile, you see him.

He's never vanished before.

That's not true, he hasn't vanished recently,

this is his most recent vanishing and creepiest.

Not even creepiest,

you know what?

He's always doing this.

I talked to him, I actually talked to him on the phone,

I got ahold of him and he was just garbling,

incoherently, I'm going back to the church,

I'm going back to the church and looking back,

maybe I should have stopped him but I thought,

you know, if anyone I know needs to go to church

once in his life, it's Gary, you know.

I wasn't thinking at four in the morning,

I was thinking like a Sunday morning, there's a priest there

but you know, at least he's getting some God in him

or whatever he's, you know, whatever's actually

happened to him.

Hello?

Guys?

Guys?

Dave, David?

Rhod?

This isn't funny.

This isn't funny, come on, guys.

Payton?

Trev?

Come on.

Guys, this isn't funny anymore.

Come on.

Please?

Come on.

Guys?

I mean, why would you go in there?

Look at it.

I mean, I can't see what a lot of it is,

I mean, it doesn't look good.

I mean, nothing about this screams common sense.

Of course we heard the languages that

were not English but we're hearing the voices

in English as well.

The voices don't seem to match with any

of the filmmakers who are there in the church

at this time.

That could be attributable to a couple of things,

some of them quite simple.

Maybe their voices trailing in from outside the church,

conversations of people passing by,

perhaps it could be individuals just basically

having a laugh with the filmmakers,

having some fun with them.

If you wanna think supernatural,

it would probably fall under the category

of what we consider an intelligent haunt.

There are two types of hauntings,

if you want to think ghosts or otherwise.

Residual haunting is where something replays

over and over again, sort of like a tape recorder.

An intelligent haunt offers responses back,

so we want to think ghost,

it could be that or

it could be something else entirely.

I have been very involved in the search and

you know when people go missing,

that thing where they walk across the countryside

with sticks, trying to find a body or something?

Yeah, I emailed the police and said, try that.

So, I'm not mucking around, I'm taking this very seriously.

I'm sending suggestions,

not send, I'm tweeting them, tweeting the police,

just, have you tried poking bushes with sticks,

see if Gary's in there and

other things, just standard things like saying,

watch this episode of Quincy,

some people are missing there,

that might be a help to you.

So, I'm very involved and I'm taking

this very seriously.

I'm watching a lot of Quincy.

Who's there?

You called me, Rhod, is that you?

What the?

Rhod?

Did you move this?

Jamie.

Who's that, who's there?

Who's there?

Who called my name, I'm leaving.

Screw you guys.

Oh, oh, that's gotta hurt.

She, one of the filmmakers appears to have fallen

from what looks like the basement into another structure

underneath the basement, some sort of catacomb maybe

or subterranean chamber.

Interesting brickwork, interesting structure,

it's well built.

These types of facilities, these types of structures

were built for specific purposes.

They may have been built to protect

population groups from harassment,

anything from religious persecution to

even protecting wealth.

Sometimes they were used for storage,

sometimes we don't even remember what

the purposes were for.

If this type of structure has been abandoned

and forgotten for a long, long time,

there may be no way out.

Help!

I'm down here.

Ow, is anybody there?

Gary?

Trev?

Payton?

David?

Oh, I'm in pain.

Help!

Trev!

Anything else we can watch?

A lot of people bring this up,

there were the faces in the fire,

in the smoke that proved that something

creepy going on there.

Here's my theory on that, right.

If you're on fire,

as a person, right and the fire's coming up

and your face gets burned off,

it's actually gonna float up, innit, 'cause of heat,

and then that was probably just melting faces.

Nothing creepy about that.

Again, I say that out loud and that just sounds

more horrific than it is

but it's better than saying, oh, devil worship.

People, lots of people have said to me

they saw different things in the flames that night but

I think you can see lots of things if you look

at clouds in the sky, you see different shapes

and different faces and so on.

I've feared people, I know people have

got still photographs and it appears to show

like the face of the devil in the flames

and all that, I think it's a bit like

the theme music from Roald Dahl's

Tales of the Unexpected where he would flicker

in flames and people would see ghostly figures

dancing about in there, the people would see

lots of different things.

I certainly hope that it's nothing to do with

the filmmakers, I hope they weren't trapped

inside the building.

I don't know why the church was burnt down.

I mean, we've had stories in the past of people

practicing some weird kind of magic.

I mean, I'm not a believer of that but

you've got to think sometimes

why were they in there, that church, doing that?

It is a bit weird.

So the faces in the flame, yes, I did see

the picture but it can be explained by pareidolia,

which is sort of the scientific explanation

for why people see faces in everyday objects.

I mean, admittedly, they did look quite a lot like faces

but it can be explained.

Obviously quite quickly after

all the coverage went out about the fire,

there were some pictures came out that appeared

to show faces in the flames, which,

especially on our social media feed on Facebook,

a lot of interest, people speculating on it and

no one knew quite what they were,

people were saying they were ghosts from the church,

from 100 years ago or so but it was a bit

of a mystery really.

People have put forward different explanations,

but who knows?

I think there's something supernatural involved.

I think, because Llanelli is quite a hot spot

for UFOs and things,

so I think it's actually satellite,

I think there's like an intergalactic kind of

mish-mash going on, bit of a battle

and maybe one of them kind of exploded over the church.

How did it start?

I don't know,

something frightened me that night in the church.

Yet,

I don't know,

I haven't thought much about it.

It's not something I like to think about very much.

The police questioned me simply,

I believe the police questioned me as I was at the scene,

when I went down to see the fire,

the police were asking if anyone knew anything.

I don't think I'm a suspect,

however, it might be, it might be true.

Oh my god.

Rhodri!

Geez, what are you doing?

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, we need to leave.

Yes, get up there.

What did you see up there?

Where's Payton, where is she, where's Gary?

Guys, come on!

Trevor, we gotta go.

Trevor?

Payton?

Gary?

This isn't funny anymore.

Come on.

Dave, this is not funny, come on.

Dave?

Dave, this is not funny anymore, come on!

Dave?

Don't be an idiot.

Dave, Dave, Dave, come on, come on!

Dave?

This particular piece of footage is extremely corrupted.

It's been damaged by heat, by the fire,

it's impacted the digital data

but there is enough there to be able to see something,

something unusual.

People might attribute it to being a shadow person.

Shadow people are thought of in several ways.

They're either conjured up through occult practices

or they could even be inhumane,

going back to the concepts of the animistic religions,

something not human ever.

There are a lot of shadow people who are caught on film

around the world, this is very impressive

and very disturbing and

it seems very real.

I think the rest of the group was inside at the time

of the fire, they were still in the church,

they'd gone in by that point.

I don't know what started the fire

and whether they got out,

however if they were trapped inside the church,

it's unlikely that they would have got out,

which would mean that they are no longer alive.

I will continue

to make my films, taking onboard Gary's critique this time.

I will,

I will carry on as normal and I will try

and not let this affect my life too much.

I don't think that they're dead, no.

I mean, there is not bodies found or anything, right?

I just think they're hiding, they're scared.

I'd like to think, I mean, if the filmmakers

are worth their salt, they're probably out there

in the community, digging around, investigating

and trying to get at the truth of all this, really,

I mean, people want to find out what did happen

on that night, what caused the fire,

how did it come about.

I mean, it's a tragedy for Llanneli,

tragedy for the church and who knows,

some of them might be having a little lock-in,

having a few drinks in the local pub but

some of them may be busy working and trying

to find out the truth here and I hope it's the latter,

I hope they're busy trying to find out the truth.

Unless you've got interviews with six empty chairs,

schedule after me, I'm the guy here talking about it

but I'm, I'm pretty sure they're probably just

hiding out somewhere, got some cabin in West Wales

where they're all drinking champagne and plotting

their next promotional move or something.

Why would I have any idea where they are?

If you want me to guess, they're probably hiding,

I don't know, working on something,

old publicity is great publicity,

that's what I think, why?

What do you mean?

No, screw this.

Gary, Trev?

Payton?

I don't know where I am.

I just fell and I can't find anybody,

I don't know if this is a sick joke but

I don't know where anybody is

and the worst thing is,

in these films, the blonde always dies first, always.

I can't find anybody, I don't know if they're joking,

I don't know what's happened.

I have to get out of here, I think I broke my leg.

I just want to go home, why did we even come here,

this is not a good idea, it was not a good idea.

I don't know what to do.

I can't.

Did I hear something?

There's something here.

Hold for sound.

Okay.

Before we go on, did you guys feel that,

I mean, it felt like the room shook.

I was just talking to the sound man and he said

he felt it too, the building shook and he said

that the audio levels changed at that point,

something about the room tone went up,

I don't understand everything about that,

that's not my field of expertise but

something weird happened and the lights flickered,

spooky.

I can give you some ideas,

I don't know if there's really any explanations.

We know there are occult influences in the area,

we know there is the presence of Wiccan activity,

we also know the history of the interaction between

the church and the Wiccan community.

That may be something that plays into it,

I would really love to have an opportunity

to speak with some of the young people who were there

but we can't find most of them.

The church burning is a big issue too because

it's as if the evidence that we need was purged

in the flames and it makes it difficult to really know

what truly happened.

That's why we're guessing.

We just don't have all the answers and I wish we did

because there's a lot of things I just,

I can't explain.

Well, I read only yesterday, there's tweets flying

about megastructures in the sky,

which was people living in the clouds, really and

skyscrapers on the cloud, with people living

in the skyscrapers on the cloud and apparently

there's not enough people living on the cloud,

so they're coming down to grab the people from the planet

to take them into the megastructures on the cloud.

Never really seen witches or ghosts

or anything like that.

The creepiest thing is, that I know of,

around here is

my mother looks exactly like Danny DeVito.

I mean exactly like him

and it's creepy.

It's like they shouldn't look that similar but they do,

people stop and ask for autographs.

They go, I loved you in Twins.

It's just creepy how similar they look,

so that's supernatural-ish.

I gotta get out of here.

What's that sound?

What's that sound?

I hear something.

It's not human, what was that?

It's so gross and creepy.

I guess you never know really,

with this sort of thing, really,

'cause it's, obviously it drew a lot of media attention

to the town when so many of them went missing but

yeah, I guess we'll wait and see what happens.

They may well turn up somewhere

as part of some elaborate publicity stunt but who knows?

There are already people talking about well,

the burning of witches and trying to link it

to the Wiccan activity.

Did they burn witches, yes.

They drowned witches, they hung witches,

is the fire obviously occultic simply because

of the burning of witches,

I don't go that far, I don't know, I don't think so.

That's like the discussion about the faces in the flames.

You can see faces in clouds,

you can see faces on a sunny day if you're looking for them,

you see what you wanna see.

I've been crawling around here for what seems

like hours.

My legs hurt, they're numb, I feel like everything's broken.

I'm tired.

I feel like it's almost over.

I don't know how much longer I can go.

I don't know if this is the same chamber,

it all looks the same, everything looks the same.

Oh, shit!

I've seen something.

I can hear something.

I can hear something.

I gotta get outta here.

It's a door.

There's a door.

Is someone there?

Who's there, who is that?

Who's there?

There's somebody with her,

she's reacting, Jamie is, right,

Jamie is reacting to somebody there

and then she's just gone, she's gone.

Oh and you see the glow across the rocks,

do you see how there's this shimmering orange yellow light

cascading across the rock structure,

that has to be the beginnings of the fire.

I think about everything that's happened in this church

and it reminds me of how fire has been represented

down through the years in religion.

There's a passage in the beginning of Numbers,

Numbers 11.

Yes, Numbers 11, right at the beginning it says,

"And the people were as murmurers, speaking evil

"in the ears of the Lord and when the Lord heard it,

"his anger was kindled and the fire of the Lord burnt

"among them and devoured in the uttermost part of the camp."

I think Carmarthen has a lot of mystery

yet to be revealed and Llanelli,

I'll be going back.

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