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HUGH DOWNS:
Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker
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were the most famous
televangelist couple in America,
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and, by far, the most prosperous.
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AL DALE: Ken and Barbie
of televangelism.
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And they seemed honest.
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REPORTER 1: They brought encouragement
and hope to lots of people.
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GERALDO RIVERA: He's the president
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of a multi-million dollar
religious organization
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called the Praise The Lord Club.
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REPORTER 2: PTL also
operates Heritage Village
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in Fort Mill, South Carolina.
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REPORTER 3: ...Christian Disney World
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where PTL members
can vacation with inspiration.
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They are among the best-known figures
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in the world of television evangelism.
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But tonight they are out of business.
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...following the scandal that led
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to founder Jim Bakker's
resignation last week.
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There's debate about
how much the Bakker scandal will hurt
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all the television ministries
and quiet concern...
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Modern warfare among the TV preachers.
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In this electronic age,
the stakes are high
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-with millions of followers...
-...and recriminations.
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And caught up in the fighting
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are their fellow evangelists
Jimmy Swaggart,
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Oral Roberts, Jerry Falwell.
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Now, about what some people around here
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are calling "pearly-gate."
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Pearly-gate is the story
of Jim and Tammy Bakker.
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It's remarkably like Watergate,
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which tainted the name "politician,"
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and such an episode is bound
to taint the name "preacher."
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REPORTER 4: The Bakkers
couldn't even get out of their car.
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There were so many people
waiting to see them
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after three months of seclusion.
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REPORTER 5: ...busloads of tourists,
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hoping to get a glimpse
of the elusive evangelists,
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but they had no better luck
than the waiting newspeople.
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WOMAN: Okay, I'm gonna start
by taking some of this off.
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TAMMY: Okay.
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WOMAN: Gonna take your foundation off.
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TAMMY: M'kay.
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WOMAN: And then we'll start fresh.
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Can you take your lips off?
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-Okay.
-Do you want a little remover?
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Oh, no. That's it.
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That'll be all.
They're permanently lined.
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WOMAN: Oh.
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And my eyes are permanently lined
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and my eyebrows are permanently on,
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so there's not a whole lot
you can do.
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WOMAN: My goodness,
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-I... I didn't know.
-Mm.
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Have you never done pictures
without those eyelashes?
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Nope, and I never will
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because that's my trademark.
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And, you know, if I take that away,
then it's not me,
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and no one's gonna wanna look
at me without my trademark.
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So, I hold onto that.
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Even if we softened 'em up and kept...
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No. No, you can do anything you want,
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but my eyelashes stay
right where they are.
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WOMAN: That's really you.
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TAMMY: Mm.
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Oh, yeah, this is who I am.
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PREACHER: I didn't know
what the words "glory" or "hallelujah" be
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because the devil is all around us!
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-Oh, yes, he is!
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And it's up to you to resist
his temptations. Hallelujah!
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If you're not saved by Jesus,
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you open yourself up to demons
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and the devil will make a home in you!
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WOMAN: Glory to God!
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When God spoke peace to my heart,
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I didn't know how to say glory
or hallelujah,
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but I got saved!
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I leapt upon that altar.
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Jesus told me He loved me,
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and He will love you.
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He speaks through her.
Say, "Hallelujah!"
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CONGREGATION: Hallelujah!
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PREACHER: She is with
the Holy Spirit right now!
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Feel the spirit! Say, "Glory.
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"Glory to God."
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CONGREGATION: Glory to God!
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PREACHER: You too, sister!
Feel the spirit.
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Raise your hands up, folks.
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LITTLE TAMMY: I was here.
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Here the whole time.
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Little girls go to Hell for lying.
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Honest and true.
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I wanna be saved.
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If you let me come in with you,
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God'd love me like He's supposed to.
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There's reasons
you can't be seen in church, Tam.
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Grown-up reasons.
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Is it because everyone thinks
you're a harlot?
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And I come from a time
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before Fred made you
respectable and stuff.
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Only reason they let me back
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is 'cause nobody but me
can play the piano.
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But you remind them I was divorced.
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They see you,
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all of us is going to be banished.
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The souls of all your brothers and sisters
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burning in Hell because you don't listen
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and you can't sit still.
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Stop performing.
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You're going to Hell, Tammy.
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You don't belong here.
You don't belong anywhere.
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You're ugly.
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You've got a demon inside you.
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But I don't wanna go to Hell.
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If they loved you,
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they wouldn't leave you here.
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They love me.
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They love you not.
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Jesus, come into my heart
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and forgive me my sins.
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I don't know what this is
everybody's getting,
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but if it's real,
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then, please, Jesus, give that to me.
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-PREACHER: Amen!
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Be strong in the Lord
and His mighty power.
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Put on the armor of God
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so that you can take your stand
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against the devil's schemes.
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For our struggle isn't
against flesh and blood,
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but against the powers
of this dark world!
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Casting down imaginations
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on every high thing that exalts itself.
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-Do you feel love?
-CONGREGATION: Yes.
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PREACHER: You feel it, sister!
I know you feel it!
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You too, brother?
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If you feel the love,
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-say, "Hallelujah!"
-CONGREGATION: Hallelujah!
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PREACHER: Say, "Glory to God!"
CONGREGATION: Glory to God!
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PREACHER: Accept the blood!
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Feel love forever!
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CONGREGATION: Hallelujah!
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WOMAN: Praise the Lord!
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Are you ready to accept the love?
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Yes.
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Tammy Faye!
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I'm so sorry. I'm so, so sorry.
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No, Tammy!
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Tammy, get up.
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He is with us!
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She's peeing herself! Praise God!
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Yes!
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-Tammy, I said get up.
-WOMAN: Shush now.
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This baby is a miracle.
Don't you take her from us.
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MAN: Mr. Bakker?
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JIM: Yes, sir?
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Thank you.
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Um, sorry.
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I would like to start with a verse.
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"Beloved, I wish above all things
that thou mayest prosper
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"and be in health,
even as thy soul prospereth."
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That is John 3, verse 2,
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and it's written right here
in the good book.
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He gave me this verse last night.
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God, He came right down
and He whispered it in my ear.
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He said, "Jim Bakker,
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"I intend for you to thrive,
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"to live, and to love
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"in this life."
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He said it to me.
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But us Christians,
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we've been taught
that we're supposed to
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expect failure.
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-When Jesus calls you home,
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you think you're going to get a bonus
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if you make yourself miserable?
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You think if you deny yourself
indoor plumbing,
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or if you don't have shoes
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-on your feet...
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I'm... I'm sorry.
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Go ahead.
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You know, Heaven,
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Heaven is heaven, that is for sure.
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But God's hope for us
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is that we live and we thrive
and we love here
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in the promised land.
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Here and now.
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Here and now,
and in this very, very moment.
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Hallelujah!
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God does not want us to be poor!
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Oh, no!
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He will gift the faithful
with eternal life,
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eternal love, and eternal wealth!
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Hallelujah! Praise God!
Praise Him!
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Be right to remember,
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"Blessed be the poor," Mr. Bakker.
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Doesn't sound very blessed to me.
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You two are here to learn the ways
of the Lord through scripture, yeah?
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Yes, sir.
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And to spread the word of God.
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Oh, yeah. You know,
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I'm gonna sing the word in every tent,
in every church.
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You know, God told me that
that's what He wants for me.
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With makeup on your face?
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Ahem. Jezebel.
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"I do my best to maintain always
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"a blameless conscience,
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"both before God and before men."
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"A man who keeps company with harlots
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"wastes his wealth."
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Proverbs 29:3.
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"Your stature is like that of a palm
and your breasts
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"like clusters of fruit.
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"I will take hold of the palm tree."
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"And I will take hold of the fruit."
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That's the Song of Solomon.
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7:7.
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JIM: I'm sorry I couldn't
drive you someplace nice.
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Oh, this is someplace nice, Jim.
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Tell me something. Tell me a secret.
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Something that no one else knows about.
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Oh, I have no secrets.
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I'll tell you anything you wanna know.
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We'll start with everything.
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-Okay.
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I'm the oldest of eight children
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and I'm a very practical person.
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And what you see is all there is of me.
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You know, I don't pretend
to be something I'm not
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because what you see is all you get.
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And I love people.
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I have a genuine,
genuine love for people.
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And I hurt when people hurt,
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and probably a little more dramatic
than people would like me to be.
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But I enjoy that.
That's just who I am.
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I've never met anyone quite like you,
Tammy Faye.
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Okay.
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So, um, do you have any secrets, Jim?
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Well, one or two.
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Well, tell me.
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Well, before God found me,
I wanted to be a radio deejay.
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-No.
-Yes.
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I used to love to make people dance.
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Have fun.
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-Little Richard.
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And Buddy Holly and...
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Oh, and Fats Domino.
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What happened?
Why didn't you do it, Jim?
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Ah.
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Never mind that.
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Tell me.
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Um, I don't think...
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Well, all right.
I'll tell you, Tammy. Um...
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Two years ago,
I was on a date
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with my girlfriend, Sandy, and...
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Mm.
-Oh, no,
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with my girlfriend at the time.
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-Mm.
-But, anyhoo,
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I borrowed my daddy's car
to take her out,
260
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and there was all this snow
on the ground
261
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and Fats was singing Blueberry Hill
262
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so loud
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and I... I was having these urges
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that only the devil would approve of
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and I lost control of the car.
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And I ran over a little boy,
267
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-little Jimmy Summerfield.
-
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I ruptured Jimmy Summerfield's lung...
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-...with my daddy's tire.
270
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I didn't sleep all night.
271
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I was just up worried sick
about that boy dying.
272
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So, I...
273
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I made a bargain with God.
274
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I said to Him,
275
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"I will forsake my dream
of being a deejay.
276
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"I will stop peddling in rock and roll
277
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"and I'll dedicate my life
to Him and Him alone.
278
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"If He sees fit to save that boy's life,
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"He will win two souls
right then and there."
280
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And what happened to Jimmy Summerfield?
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He lived.
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-Oh.
-Yes.
283
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-Praise be to God.
-Yes, praise Him.
284
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So...
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You still like me?
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Oh, sure, I do, Jim.
287
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Oh, even more now that
you were honest with me.
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I'll tell ya, I do miss dancing.
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I found my thrill
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On Blueberry Hill
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I found my thrill
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When I found you
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You're so loud.
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Dance with me, Jim.
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Here? No, I can't.
296
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In front of all these people?
Like, no...
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Please?
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The moon stood still
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On Blueberry Hill
300
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-And lingered until
-
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My dreams came true
302
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Oh, we can't.
303
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I know.
304
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-We can't.
-I know.
305
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Oh. Oh, we can't.
306
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I know.
307
00:15:16,458 --> 00:15:17,500
Yeah!
308
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What'd you do?
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Hello, Mother.
This is Jim Bakker,
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Oh, it's such a blessing
to finally meet you.
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TAMMY: No.
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00:15:40,482 --> 00:15:41,858
No, Mother, we can't go back to school.
313
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They have a rule against
students marrying one another.
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Did you know they had that rule
when you did this?
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If I know the two of you,
you're just gonna love Jim.
316
00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:50,617
Oh, he's so motivated.
317
00:15:50,784 --> 00:15:52,410
He has so many big ideas.
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Did you know?
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Well, you can educate yourself
right out of a relationship with God.
320
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He has a plan for us.
321
00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:13,014
-God or that Jim boy?
-God.
322
00:16:13,848 --> 00:16:15,475
What'd He tell ya to do this time?
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Come spring, me and Jim
are going to be traveling preachers,
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bringing God's love to all people.
325
00:16:21,064 --> 00:16:23,858
Anyone who's hurting
or they feel like they've been left out.
326
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Jim will preach and I'll sing.
327
00:16:25,944 --> 00:16:28,530
And we'll be like
Oral Roberts and his wife.
328
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Oral Roberts went to college.
329
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-He has one named for him.
330
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God said that we're supposed
to have a good life.
331
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That way, we can help
bring his love to all people.
332
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There's a limit to God's love,
Tammy Faye.
333
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TAMMY AND JIM: No.
334
00:16:44,045 --> 00:16:48,091
No, there's no limit to God's love,
Mrs. Grover,
335
00:16:48,299 --> 00:16:50,802
and there's no limit
to Tammy Faye and I either.
336
00:16:51,428 --> 00:16:52,887
We're soldiers in Christ.
337
00:16:53,054 --> 00:16:55,724
We've been called to serve
in a very real way.
338
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God smiles on a husband and wife.
339
00:16:57,976 --> 00:17:00,311
"As a young man marries a young woman,
340
00:17:00,478 --> 00:17:02,897
"so will your Builder marry you;
341
00:17:03,064 --> 00:17:06,651
"as a bridegroom rejoices in his bride,
342
00:17:06,818 --> 00:17:09,738
"so will your God rejoice in you."
343
00:17:09,904 --> 00:17:11,614
Isaiah 62:5.
344
00:17:14,576 --> 00:17:16,286
JIM: It's something we do.
345
00:17:28,715 --> 00:17:31,384
Fred said that we could stay
until the weather changes.
346
00:17:33,011 --> 00:17:34,262
Got some bubbles at the swap meet.
347
00:17:39,309 --> 00:17:41,186
I'm sorry, Tam.
348
00:17:43,021 --> 00:17:45,064
I feel like I'm letting you down.
349
00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:48,777
She doesn't like me.
350
00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:51,696
-No, Jim.
-No, she doesn't.
351
00:17:52,864 --> 00:17:55,033
Of course she likes you.
352
00:17:58,369 --> 00:17:59,496
TAMMY: Oh.
353
00:18:04,167 --> 00:18:07,629
It makes Tammy sad
to see you so sad.
354
00:18:09,172 --> 00:18:10,548
How's there supposed to be bubbles
355
00:18:10,632 --> 00:18:13,092
if there isn't enough water
to work up the bubbles?
356
00:18:13,259 --> 00:18:15,970
Oh, I can work up the bubbles, Jim.
357
00:18:16,304 --> 00:18:19,432
All I gotta do is dunk my hand.
358
00:18:21,643 --> 00:18:24,145
And I swirl...
359
00:18:29,526 --> 00:18:31,486
-And swirl.
-
360
00:18:32,654 --> 00:18:34,656
-
361
00:18:37,325 --> 00:18:38,701
-Am I doing that all right?
362
00:18:38,868 --> 00:18:40,370
Uh-huh.
363
00:18:53,174 --> 00:18:55,593
Well, hello there, Tammy Faye.
364
00:18:57,303 --> 00:18:58,888
Hello, Mommy.
365
00:18:59,055 --> 00:19:00,890
What are you doing with those things?
366
00:19:01,057 --> 00:19:03,059
Well, we're gonna use these
puppets as part of our sermon
367
00:19:03,226 --> 00:19:04,894
and show the kids how wonderful God is.
368
00:19:05,061 --> 00:19:06,563
And if we can get enough children to come,
369
00:19:06,729 --> 00:19:08,064
they'll bring their mothers
and their fathers.
370
00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:10,275
And before you know it,
we'll have our own church.
371
00:19:14,904 --> 00:19:17,740
Have you counted
your blessings today, Tammy Faye?
372
00:19:17,907 --> 00:19:19,826
No, not yet, Susie.
373
00:19:20,159 --> 00:19:23,204
Time to count your blessings,
for they are plentiful.
374
00:19:23,788 --> 00:19:27,166
Okay, well, thank you for my husband.
375
00:19:27,333 --> 00:19:30,753
Oh, you're so welcome, Tammy.
376
00:19:31,504 --> 00:19:35,008
And thank you for Mother's understanding,
even if she doesn't understand.
377
00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:38,136
You're welcome.
378
00:19:39,929 --> 00:19:42,348
And thank you, God, for love.
379
00:19:59,616 --> 00:20:00,617
Hmm.
380
00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:02,660
-
381
00:20:03,036 --> 00:20:05,455
-
382
00:20:07,248 --> 00:20:10,209
Jim! Whose car is this?
383
00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:12,962
No.
384
00:20:13,296 --> 00:20:16,174
-Get in. Get in. Come on.
385
00:20:16,341 --> 00:20:17,425
TAMMY: Okay.
386
00:20:18,343 --> 00:20:20,345
Roll that window up.
I got the heat on.
387
00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:22,972
This fine vehicle
388
00:20:23,056 --> 00:20:25,892
with the leather interior
and the chrome on the wheels
389
00:20:26,059 --> 00:20:29,771
is a gift from God
for us to do His work.
390
00:20:33,024 --> 00:20:35,526
But how
can we afford it, Jim Bakker?
391
00:20:36,861 --> 00:20:38,488
Who is this?
392
00:20:38,655 --> 00:20:40,031
I'm Susie Moppet.
393
00:20:40,198 --> 00:20:43,493
Aren't you cute? Well, do
you know about God, Susie?
394
00:20:43,701 --> 00:20:44,702
Oh, I do.
395
00:20:44,786 --> 00:20:48,081
Well, God has cancelled
the claim of poverty
396
00:20:48,164 --> 00:20:49,832
and deprivation in our lives
397
00:20:49,999 --> 00:20:52,669
and He has placed
all the powers of heaven
398
00:20:52,835 --> 00:20:55,088
and the First Bank
of International Falls,
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00:20:55,171 --> 00:20:57,548
Minnesota, at our disposal.
400
00:21:03,638 --> 00:21:06,933
Oh, this is the nicest car
I've ever seen, Jim.
401
00:21:07,141 --> 00:21:10,103
"Everything works for good
for them that love God."
402
00:21:10,186 --> 00:21:11,729
Everything.
403
00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:15,149
But you have
to have faith in Him
404
00:21:15,316 --> 00:21:18,236
and in me and in us,
'cause if you don't,
405
00:21:18,403 --> 00:21:20,029
I don't know
what I'm doing here.
406
00:21:20,196 --> 00:21:22,198
-Oh, I do, Jim.
-You do?
407
00:21:24,367 --> 00:21:25,660
Does she, Susie?
408
00:21:26,869 --> 00:21:28,371
Oh, she do, Jim!
409
00:21:28,538 --> 00:21:31,207
-She really, really do!
-
410
00:21:41,259 --> 00:21:43,011
JIM: You sure...
411
00:21:43,177 --> 00:21:45,763
It's all right here.
In Psalm 37:4.
412
00:21:45,847 --> 00:21:47,890
"Take delight in the Lord
413
00:21:48,057 --> 00:21:51,978
"and He will give you
your heart's desires."
414
00:21:52,145 --> 00:21:55,648
God starts turning
those wheels in your life!
415
00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:56,983
SUSIE: You better believe it!
416
00:21:57,150 --> 00:21:59,652
-JIM: Oh, now who is this?
-Oh, I'm Susie Moppet.
417
00:21:59,861 --> 00:22:01,362
Well, hello there, Susie Moppet.
418
00:22:01,529 --> 00:22:02,947
SUSIE: Hi! Nice to meet you!
419
00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:06,743
-She jumped up.
-
420
00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:09,537
Yes, Jesus loves me
421
00:22:09,704 --> 00:22:11,289
Yes, Jesus loves me
422
00:22:11,456 --> 00:22:12,915
Yes, Jesus loves me
423
00:22:13,082 --> 00:22:16,794
BOTH: The Bible tells me so
424
00:22:16,961 --> 00:22:19,297
Hitch up your wagon to God.
425
00:22:19,505 --> 00:22:21,257
He's greater than any problem.
426
00:22:21,424 --> 00:22:22,759
Us Christians, we're just
stuck in the mud
427
00:22:22,925 --> 00:22:24,761
like that old game.
Remember that old kids' game?
428
00:22:24,927 --> 00:22:27,096
God wants us just to run free.
429
00:22:31,476 --> 00:22:33,352
Well, this is a fun song,
boys and girls.
430
00:22:33,519 --> 00:22:34,687
So, hit it, Allie.
431
00:22:35,146 --> 00:22:36,314
Jesus loves me
432
00:22:36,397 --> 00:22:39,108
This I know
For the Bible tells me so
433
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,360
Yes, Jesus loves me
434
00:22:41,527 --> 00:22:44,030
-ALLIE: The Bible tells me so
-
435
00:22:47,283 --> 00:22:49,118
ANNOUNCER:
You're watching Pat Robertson
436
00:22:49,202 --> 00:22:50,828
on the Christian
Broadcasting Network.
437
00:22:50,995 --> 00:22:51,996
JIM: Come on.
438
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,165
Season all your grain offerings...
439
00:22:54,332 --> 00:22:55,750
Oh, come on!
440
00:22:55,833 --> 00:22:58,044
-Okay, okay, okay.
-...with salt.
441
00:22:58,211 --> 00:23:01,172
Do not leave the salt
of the covenant of your God
442
00:23:01,255 --> 00:23:03,132
out of your grain offerings.
443
00:23:03,216 --> 00:23:04,509
Add salt
444
00:23:05,218 --> 00:23:06,469
to all your offerings.
445
00:23:06,552 --> 00:23:09,972
You know, he's not terribly
dynamic for a charismatic.
446
00:23:10,139 --> 00:23:11,641
JIM: I know, but people just eat him up.
447
00:23:11,849 --> 00:23:14,227
...focus on the foundation.
448
00:23:14,435 --> 00:23:15,895
-Tammy, did you see that?
-Hmm?
449
00:23:15,978 --> 00:23:18,272
Watch close.
Every now and again,
450
00:23:18,439 --> 00:23:20,358
he glances up at the camera.
451
00:23:20,525 --> 00:23:23,486
It is upon Him that you
can place your strong...
452
00:23:23,653 --> 00:23:25,113
-See that?
- You're right.
453
00:23:25,196 --> 00:23:28,783
He's talking right to you
in the comfort of your living room.
454
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:31,035
Well, if I could have watched a preacher
455
00:23:31,202 --> 00:23:34,288
on TV in my own home telling me about God,
456
00:23:34,455 --> 00:23:36,332
that would've made such a difference.
457
00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:38,334
JIM: Mm. Amen.
458
00:23:38,918 --> 00:23:42,630
Especially from someone
who preaches as good as you do, Jim.
459
00:23:43,339 --> 00:23:45,508
-
460
00:23:45,591 --> 00:23:47,218
-You think?
-Oh, yeah.
461
00:23:47,385 --> 00:23:49,428
...blow your home over?
462
00:23:50,012 --> 00:23:51,430
You know, we could do that.
463
00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:56,435
You're so much more handsome than he is.
464
00:23:57,687 --> 00:23:58,729
Keep calling.
465
00:23:58,938 --> 00:24:00,148
JIM: Gotta do my homework, baby.
466
00:24:00,231 --> 00:24:01,315
The numbers are on your screen.
467
00:24:01,399 --> 00:24:02,733
Mm. Stop it.
468
00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:04,694
You're distracting me.
469
00:24:04,861 --> 00:24:07,363
...voices of angels.
I hope you enjoy them,
470
00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:08,656
and we have a variety...
471
00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:12,451
Well, we'll have to call the preacher
down in Raleigh
472
00:24:12,618 --> 00:24:14,328
and let him know we got
a better gig down here.
473
00:24:14,495 --> 00:24:16,247
Don't make him cross at you, Jim.
474
00:24:16,414 --> 00:24:18,082
We wanna have him want us back.
475
00:24:18,249 --> 00:24:19,625
JIM: Hold on.
476
00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:21,085
TAMMY: What?
477
00:24:21,252 --> 00:24:22,336
JIM: The car.
478
00:24:23,546 --> 00:24:24,672
I...
479
00:24:26,340 --> 00:24:27,967
I... I parked it here.
480
00:24:28,259 --> 00:24:30,803
Yep, you sure did. Uh-huh.
481
00:24:32,263 --> 00:24:33,389
Well, must've got stolen...
482
00:24:33,556 --> 00:24:34,640
What?
483
00:24:34,724 --> 00:24:36,893
Oh.
484
00:24:37,977 --> 00:24:39,061
Oh, maybe it got towed.
485
00:24:39,687 --> 00:24:42,565
No, I know I made the payments, so...
486
00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:45,526
I think I made the payments.
487
00:24:45,693 --> 00:24:46,694
Oh, Jim.
488
00:24:46,777 --> 00:24:48,362
Maybe they didn't get
the payments or maybe...
489
00:24:48,446 --> 00:24:49,447
Oh, no.
490
00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:50,823
I don't think I forgot.
491
00:24:51,199 --> 00:24:52,533
-I think I...
-Okay.
492
00:24:52,617 --> 00:24:54,952
-Oh, Tammy, I don't know...
-We need to pray.
493
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,163
Oh, did I? Yes, yes, yes.
494
00:24:57,246 --> 00:24:58,414
TAMMY: Oh, Lord,
495
00:24:58,581 --> 00:25:00,374
we are good soldiers.
496
00:25:00,541 --> 00:25:02,168
-We are here for good.
-Oh, I'm sorry, Tammy.
497
00:25:02,251 --> 00:25:03,920
-We are here for your good.
-I'm so, so, so sorry.
498
00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:05,213
And we ask that you shine your light...
499
00:25:05,296 --> 00:25:06,797
JIM: I shouldn't have put
so much faith in that bank.
500
00:25:06,881 --> 00:25:08,341
God, I'm so sorry.
501
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:09,675
Jesus, I'm so sorry.
502
00:25:09,842 --> 00:25:11,302
Tammy, I'm sorry.
503
00:25:11,469 --> 00:25:12,929
I'm sorry.
504
00:25:13,095 --> 00:25:14,597
-Jim.
-
505
00:25:16,849 --> 00:25:17,850
MAN: Hey.
506
00:25:18,392 --> 00:25:20,728
Hey, I saw you preach last night.
507
00:25:20,895 --> 00:25:23,814
Those puppets of yours filled me. Deeply.
508
00:25:23,981 --> 00:25:25,274
TAMMY: Oh, thank you.
509
00:25:25,358 --> 00:25:26,400
JIM: Thank you.
510
00:25:26,567 --> 00:25:28,027
I'm staying in the room next door.
511
00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:30,696
-Can I help you with that?
- No!
512
00:25:30,780 --> 00:25:32,490
Well, that's very kind of you...
513
00:25:33,658 --> 00:25:36,077
...but we don't rightly know
where we're carrying it to.
514
00:25:36,911 --> 00:25:38,537
I work at a local television station
515
00:25:38,704 --> 00:25:40,873
with a minister by the name
of Mr. Pat Robertson.
516
00:25:44,961 --> 00:25:46,379
He'd get a kick outta you two.
517
00:25:51,467 --> 00:25:54,929
WOMAN 1: Yes, honey,
and that's $25 a pledge.
518
00:25:55,012 --> 00:25:58,391
-WOMAN 2: CBN.
519
00:25:58,474 --> 00:26:00,393
Can I take your pledge?
520
00:26:01,811 --> 00:26:03,729
JIM: Well, I'm trying to focus.
521
00:26:05,481 --> 00:26:07,400
And you're just distracting me.
522
00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:09,860
You make me laugh.
I was happy to find...
523
00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:14,699
JIM: You're so funny, Graham.
524
00:26:14,865 --> 00:26:16,325
-Jim?
-Hey, honey.
525
00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:18,119
Hi, I got a new outfit for the show.
526
00:26:18,286 --> 00:26:20,079
Oh, yes, I love it.
527
00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:22,331
Jim.
-JIM: Yeah?
528
00:26:22,498 --> 00:26:23,499
You didn't even look at me.
529
00:26:23,666 --> 00:26:24,667
JIM: Oh.
530
00:26:25,293 --> 00:26:26,711
I'm sorry, Tam.
531
00:26:26,877 --> 00:26:28,045
Have I ever told you
532
00:26:28,129 --> 00:26:31,799
that I am the luckiest man
on the face of this planet?
533
00:26:31,882 --> 00:26:33,634
-Have I ever told you that?
534
00:26:33,718 --> 00:26:35,678
-Not today.
-Not today, no?
535
00:26:35,845 --> 00:26:37,054
I'm going to tell you something, too,
536
00:26:37,138 --> 00:26:38,723
but I'm not gonna tell you right now.
537
00:26:38,889 --> 00:26:39,890
You're gonna have to wait.
538
00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:41,934
-Yeah.
539
00:26:42,685 --> 00:26:43,936
You just have to.
540
00:26:44,353 --> 00:26:45,688
And there he is.
541
00:26:46,188 --> 00:26:47,273
Every time I try and talk to him,
542
00:26:47,356 --> 00:26:49,400
he just keeps making excuses
not to see me.
543
00:26:49,567 --> 00:26:53,321
Well, my surprise is gonna
make you feel so much better.
544
00:26:53,904 --> 00:26:55,156
I'll be right back.
545
00:26:55,323 --> 00:26:56,365
No, Jim,
546
00:26:56,532 --> 00:26:57,825
-the show's about to start.
-JIM: Hey, Pat!
547
00:26:57,908 --> 00:26:59,952
PAT: Jim! Hey!
JIM: You got a second?
548
00:27:01,162 --> 00:27:03,289
Have you given more thought
to our show idea?
549
00:27:03,372 --> 00:27:04,373
MAN: All right,
let me get you set up.
550
00:27:04,457 --> 00:27:05,791
PAT: Don't you already
have your hands full
551
00:27:05,875 --> 00:27:07,084
with those puppets?
552
00:27:07,251 --> 00:27:09,503
Biggest earner we got.
You stay focused.
553
00:27:09,670 --> 00:27:10,755
JIM: Well, yes, of course,
554
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,424
but you shut down CBN at 10 p.m.
555
00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:15,009
Why not do a late-night show?
556
00:27:15,176 --> 00:27:16,969
Just kind of like Johnny Carson
for Christians?
557
00:27:17,053 --> 00:27:19,263
No, Christians don't stay up that late.
558
00:27:19,347 --> 00:27:20,348
Oh, I do.
559
00:27:20,431 --> 00:27:22,016
-I don't sleep at all.
-PAT: What about Tam?
560
00:27:22,183 --> 00:27:23,976
Well, she's gonna miss you at night.
561
00:27:24,143 --> 00:27:26,062
JIM: Tammy loves the idea.
MAN: Tammy, we're on.
562
00:27:26,228 --> 00:27:29,231
MAN 2: Okay, we're live
in five, four, three.
563
00:27:33,361 --> 00:27:34,820
Oh, hello, everybody!
564
00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:37,615
CHILDREN: Hi, Tammy!
565
00:27:37,782 --> 00:27:40,159
Well, Jim is a little bit late today,
566
00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,995
so, um, the theme of today's show,
567
00:27:43,162 --> 00:27:44,872
how about we make it
all about the importance
568
00:27:44,955 --> 00:27:47,249
of being places on time, hmm?
569
00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:49,335
Oh, no! Oh, no!
-
570
00:27:49,418 --> 00:27:51,212
-I'm sorry, kids!
-There he is.
571
00:27:51,379 --> 00:27:54,548
I'm sorry, Tammy!
I'm sorry, everybody.
572
00:27:54,757 --> 00:27:57,051
I was just having a little,
fun little chat
573
00:27:57,218 --> 00:27:59,804
with Uncle Pat just behind the barn.
574
00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:02,014
Oh, yeah, and what'd you two
fellas get up to without me?
575
00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:05,101
Oh, well, it's actually
something all you kids...
576
00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:06,185
-Mm-hmm.
-...are gonna wanna
577
00:28:06,268 --> 00:28:07,686
tell your parents about.
578
00:28:07,853 --> 00:28:12,191
It's a brand-new show just for them
579
00:28:12,358 --> 00:28:15,820
right here on CBN!
580
00:28:15,903 --> 00:28:17,363
-Well, amen!
581
00:28:17,446 --> 00:28:20,408
JIM: And it's gonna be called
The 700 Club.
582
00:28:20,574 --> 00:28:22,159
TAMMY: Now, isn't that happy news?
583
00:28:22,326 --> 00:28:25,121
Hallelujah! Yes! Yes!
584
00:28:25,287 --> 00:28:26,288
-SUSIE: Hi, kids.
-Oh.
585
00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:29,917
-ALL: Hi, Susie Moppet.
586
00:28:30,084 --> 00:28:32,711
Hi, Jim.
Today's a happy day.
587
00:28:32,878 --> 00:28:34,380
Isn't it, kids?
And you know why, Jim?
588
00:28:34,588 --> 00:28:36,173
Why, Susie?
589
00:28:36,340 --> 00:28:39,343
Well, you're gonna have
a new show, kids.
590
00:28:39,427 --> 00:28:41,053
-JIM: Yes.
-
591
00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:44,682
SUSIE: And Jim is gonna have
592
00:28:44,849 --> 00:28:46,392
a baby.
593
00:28:46,475 --> 00:28:47,685
-
594
00:28:47,768 --> 00:28:49,645
Look at Tammy,
she's right behind you.
595
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:54,859
We're gonna have a baby?
596
00:28:55,693 --> 00:28:58,195
Isn't the world just
full of blessings, Jim?
597
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:00,239
-Huh?
598
00:29:00,322 --> 00:29:02,116
-That's right, folks!
599
00:29:05,453 --> 00:29:07,329
We're gonna have a baby!
600
00:29:07,413 --> 00:29:08,747
-Oh-ho-ho!
601
00:29:08,873 --> 00:29:11,834
JIM: It's not a drag to be saved.
602
00:29:12,001 --> 00:29:13,752
It's not a boring thing.
603
00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:16,672
That's religion.
See, you got 'em mixed up.
604
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:19,175
Religion is boring and dull,
605
00:29:19,341 --> 00:29:22,511
-but Jesus is life.
-
606
00:29:22,678 --> 00:29:25,222
Now, my next guest is
a new friend to The 700 Club,
607
00:29:25,389 --> 00:29:29,351
and I can smell his chicken,
yes.
608
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,064
The Colonel, Colonel Sanders
in The 700 Club!
609
00:29:34,148 --> 00:29:36,567
-
610
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,409
Oh, the crowd appreciates you.
I think they like you.
611
00:29:45,576 --> 00:29:47,286
I think they're wanting
some of that chicken.
612
00:29:47,453 --> 00:29:48,746
JIM: I guess
the housewives of America
613
00:29:48,829 --> 00:29:50,122
are thanking you for fixing dinner...
614
00:29:53,417 --> 00:29:54,418
Hello.
615
00:29:54,585 --> 00:29:56,003
TAMMY: Oh, hi, Mom.
616
00:29:56,170 --> 00:29:59,340
Do you know what time it is?
Why are you calling so late?
617
00:29:59,548 --> 00:30:02,259
Well, Jim says that I need
to rest for my pregnancy,
618
00:30:02,426 --> 00:30:05,804
but, oh, you know me. I can't rest,
619
00:30:05,971 --> 00:30:08,057
so thought I'd call my mother
to keep me company.
620
00:30:08,224 --> 00:30:10,017
I never got a rest.
621
00:30:10,184 --> 00:30:12,269
Oh, I miss working, though.
You know?
622
00:30:12,436 --> 00:30:15,189
It's so lonesome at home all by myself.
623
00:30:15,356 --> 00:30:17,775
Wow! Oh, wow!
624
00:30:17,942 --> 00:30:19,276
And he barely touches me anymore.
625
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,779
And when he does, it's not enthusiastic.
626
00:30:23,239 --> 00:30:26,700
Well, it's up to the wife
to make herself desirable for her husband.
627
00:30:26,867 --> 00:30:29,328
I do that. Oh, I do.
628
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:31,872
He's just really busy.
629
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:33,582
-JIM: Really?
-
630
00:30:33,749 --> 00:30:35,834
So, are you watching Jim's show?
631
00:30:36,001 --> 00:30:38,087
That new talk show of his is on.
632
00:30:38,254 --> 00:30:39,630
Serving God don't feel like
633
00:30:39,713 --> 00:30:41,549
it should be
a money-making opportunity.
634
00:30:41,715 --> 00:30:42,716
TAMMY: Yeah.
635
00:30:43,509 --> 00:30:45,594
You know,
I wanna do what he's doing.
636
00:30:46,011 --> 00:30:48,597
And I wanna sing
and not in a puppet voice.
637
00:30:48,764 --> 00:30:51,308
And I wanna talk about issues
that affect people's daily lives.
638
00:30:51,475 --> 00:30:52,977
And there's so much
that we don't talk about.
639
00:30:53,143 --> 00:30:54,186
There's so many secrets,
640
00:30:54,353 --> 00:30:57,523
and, you know, everyone says
I'm supposed to be tired,
641
00:30:58,148 --> 00:31:00,109
but I just wanna love people.
642
00:31:00,276 --> 00:31:01,694
You got me out of bed
643
00:31:01,777 --> 00:31:03,404
to talk to me about how you're not tired.
644
00:31:03,571 --> 00:31:05,406
Does that make sense to you?
645
00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:08,492
No.
646
00:31:09,535 --> 00:31:12,705
-Sorry.
-Night night, Tam. Take care.
647
00:31:12,871 --> 00:31:14,790
TAMMY: Good night, Mom.
I love you.
648
00:31:14,957 --> 00:31:15,958
Bye.
649
00:31:16,125 --> 00:31:17,459
Okay, bye-bye.
650
00:31:20,629 --> 00:31:21,630
FRED: Who was it?
651
00:31:24,550 --> 00:31:25,634
RACHEL: That was Tam.
652
00:31:25,718 --> 00:31:26,719
FRED: How is she?
653
00:31:26,802 --> 00:31:28,721
RACHEL: Well, it seems like
she's having some trouble
654
00:31:28,804 --> 00:31:30,306
with the pregnancy.
What'd I miss?
655
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:31,473
JIM: ...a second childhood.
656
00:31:31,557 --> 00:31:32,808
FRED: I don't know.
The sound was off.
657
00:31:32,975 --> 00:31:34,393
You love kids, don't you?
658
00:31:34,476 --> 00:31:36,103
-You love children.
-COLONEL SANDERS: I do.
659
00:31:36,186 --> 00:31:39,607
I have five grandchildren
and 14 great-grandchildren.
660
00:31:39,773 --> 00:31:41,775
-Wow!
-
661
00:31:42,776 --> 00:31:44,695
I bet they're spoiled.
Do you spoil them?
662
00:31:52,953 --> 00:31:54,955
Oh, dear Lord God.
663
00:31:57,583 --> 00:32:01,170
What doors are you gonna
open up for me to walk through?
664
00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:06,550
What can I do for happiness?
665
00:32:09,637 --> 00:32:11,764
Oh, I wanna get back on TV.
666
00:32:14,099 --> 00:32:16,477
I'm going back to work for you.
667
00:32:29,365 --> 00:32:31,367
-
668
00:32:36,622 --> 00:32:37,998
Well...
669
00:32:39,375 --> 00:32:41,126
What do you think he pays himself?
670
00:32:44,922 --> 00:32:46,090
I should have worn the other dress.
671
00:32:46,256 --> 00:32:47,841
JIM: You look fine, honey.
672
00:32:49,218 --> 00:32:50,386
Oh.
673
00:32:50,469 --> 00:32:51,470
JIM: There he is.
674
00:32:51,637 --> 00:32:53,806
TAMMY: Dede's wearing a mink.
That's a real mink!
675
00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:55,099
And it's warm outside.
676
00:32:55,265 --> 00:32:57,726
You know, we...
we paid for all this, Tammy.
677
00:32:57,810 --> 00:33:01,021
You and me,
from the swimming pool to the hot tub,
678
00:33:01,689 --> 00:33:03,774
and Dede's dead animal.
We paid for it.
679
00:33:03,941 --> 00:33:06,819
Well, the fruit isn't dropping our way,
that's for sure.
680
00:33:06,902 --> 00:33:09,655
-My little stars!
681
00:33:10,239 --> 00:33:11,699
Hello. Hey, Pat!
682
00:33:11,782 --> 00:33:12,950
-What a beautiful place!
-How are you?
683
00:33:13,033 --> 00:33:14,952
-Oh, thank you, thank you!
-Paradise!
684
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,122
Look at that little baby, too.
Positively a chipmunk.
685
00:33:18,288 --> 00:33:19,415
Thanks.
686
00:33:19,581 --> 00:33:20,666
Hey, that's a nice coat.
687
00:33:20,833 --> 00:33:21,875
Oh, thank you, dear.
688
00:33:21,959 --> 00:33:23,127
Must be hot though.
689
00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:24,378
No, not in the least.
690
00:33:26,213 --> 00:33:27,589
PAT: Hey, Jim, I've been thinking.
691
00:33:27,673 --> 00:33:29,591
-JIM: Mm-hmm?
-Have you given any thought
692
00:33:29,675 --> 00:33:32,219
to taking some time off
to be with your family?
693
00:33:33,053 --> 00:33:34,680
These times do not come back.
694
00:33:34,763 --> 00:33:35,764
-No.
-Trust me,
695
00:33:35,848 --> 00:33:37,182
they are precious, precious times.
696
00:33:37,266 --> 00:33:38,267
PAT: No, sir.
JIM: Mm.
697
00:33:38,684 --> 00:33:41,854
I can do The 700 Club for a time.
698
00:33:42,521 --> 00:33:45,983
We can air reruns of
Jim and Tammy for a few weeks.
699
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,527
-TAMMY: Hmm.
-A couple of months even.
700
00:33:51,947 --> 00:33:54,408
It's very...
It's very kind of you, Uncle Pat.
701
00:33:54,575 --> 00:33:55,701
Thank you.
702
00:33:55,868 --> 00:33:59,705
But, you know, I got that bond going
with my audience, you know?
703
00:33:59,788 --> 00:34:00,831
We're on the up-and-up.
704
00:34:00,914 --> 00:34:02,958
I couldn't think
of abandoning them right now.
705
00:34:03,125 --> 00:34:05,127
-Well, we'll think about it.
-Oh, Pat, Pat, Pat!
706
00:34:05,294 --> 00:34:06,670
-PAT: Oh.
-He came.
707
00:34:06,754 --> 00:34:08,922
Oh, my goodness!
708
00:34:14,178 --> 00:34:15,345
-PAT: Hello! Hello!
-Honey.
709
00:34:15,429 --> 00:34:16,722
-I see, I see him.
-Go say hi!
710
00:34:16,805 --> 00:34:18,140
I know, I see him.
We'll sit down, we'll sit down.
711
00:34:18,223 --> 00:34:19,224
PAT: Was your drive in okay?
712
00:34:19,308 --> 00:34:20,768
-Jim, go say hi!
-I don't wanna say hi.
713
00:34:20,851 --> 00:34:22,060
I'm fine. We'll say hi later.
714
00:34:22,144 --> 00:34:24,021
PAT: You remember Jim and Tammy Faye?
715
00:34:24,188 --> 00:34:26,356
-Hey, now, the puppet people!
-
716
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,567
Oh, my goodness, just...
717
00:34:28,734 --> 00:34:30,360
What a pleasure, Mr. Falwell.
718
00:34:30,527 --> 00:34:32,112
A pleasure and a blessing.
719
00:34:32,279 --> 00:34:35,574
You are truly an inspiration to me.
It's an honor.
720
00:34:35,741 --> 00:34:37,201
Nice to meet you, Jerry.
I'm Tammy.
721
00:34:37,367 --> 00:34:39,077
JIM: Tammy Faye and this is Sissy.
722
00:34:39,161 --> 00:34:40,454
-Aren't the three of you
723
00:34:40,537 --> 00:34:41,538
as cute as a button?
724
00:34:41,622 --> 00:34:43,123
TAMMY: Aw!
PAT: Yes, sir!
725
00:34:43,749 --> 00:34:45,083
JERRY: It's a moral issue...
726
00:34:47,795 --> 00:34:49,671
...feminist revolution.
727
00:34:55,093 --> 00:34:56,470
DEDE: You know it was fate.
728
00:34:56,637 --> 00:34:59,139
It was when my youngest
was being baptized,
729
00:34:59,306 --> 00:35:00,974
she was such a little-bitty thing
730
00:35:01,141 --> 00:35:02,810
that we had to put a little milk crate
731
00:35:02,893 --> 00:35:05,270
in the baptismal for her to stand on.
732
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:08,857
Come on, let's go see Daddy.
733
00:35:13,445 --> 00:35:14,822
Hi!
734
00:35:17,783 --> 00:35:19,284
I have the baby, you know.
735
00:35:19,368 --> 00:35:21,078
It's kinda hard to eat and, you know...
736
00:35:21,203 --> 00:35:22,704
JIM: Sure. Um, yeah.
737
00:35:22,871 --> 00:35:25,582
Using the fork and the knife
at the same time
738
00:35:25,749 --> 00:35:27,084
and, you know, get the food to my mouth.
739
00:35:27,167 --> 00:35:28,293
Well, why don't...
740
00:35:28,377 --> 00:35:29,461
-I think...
-And I wanna hear
741
00:35:29,545 --> 00:35:30,921
all this interesting stuff.
742
00:35:31,004 --> 00:35:32,047
-PAT: Yeah, but...
-Honey...
743
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:33,131
TAMMY: Well, I'll be right back.
744
00:35:33,298 --> 00:35:34,341
-Tam.
-Oh.
745
00:35:36,343 --> 00:35:37,761
She's a firecracker, Jim.
746
00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:44,560
-Jim.
-Yes.
747
00:35:44,726 --> 00:35:45,769
Come on.
748
00:35:45,853 --> 00:35:47,437
-SWAGGART: Okay.
-
749
00:35:49,273 --> 00:35:50,691
SWAGGART: Okay.
750
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,442
Well, very nice.
751
00:35:52,943 --> 00:35:54,444
As you were saying, Jerry?
752
00:35:56,530 --> 00:35:58,740
Let's call me Reverend Falwell.
753
00:35:59,616 --> 00:36:00,617
Of course.
754
00:36:02,286 --> 00:36:04,454
JERRY: Young people today
are raised on television.
755
00:36:04,621 --> 00:36:06,540
It's taught them an immorality.
756
00:36:06,707 --> 00:36:11,420
But now, we are on television.
757
00:36:12,838 --> 00:36:14,673
When I created The 700 Club,
758
00:36:15,090 --> 00:36:18,051
all I needed was 700 people
to keep us going.
759
00:36:18,135 --> 00:36:21,847
A year later,
we're in six markets and growin'.
760
00:36:22,014 --> 00:36:26,393
Hundreds of thousands of folks
are hearin' the word.
761
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,562
Now, God has a voice in this fight.
762
00:36:28,729 --> 00:36:29,897
SWAGGART: Amen.
PAT: Mm-hmm.
763
00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:31,940
Mm. Who's He fighting?
764
00:36:32,733 --> 00:36:34,192
JERRY: The liberal agenda.
765
00:36:34,359 --> 00:36:36,612
The feminist agenda.
766
00:36:36,778 --> 00:36:37,988
Homosexual agenda.
767
00:36:38,447 --> 00:36:41,241
It's time for a reversal of these trends.
768
00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:44,286
The only hope's in saving America.
769
00:36:44,494 --> 00:36:45,621
SWAGGART: Get back to the good old days.
770
00:36:45,704 --> 00:36:46,955
-JIM: Mm. Mm.
-
771
00:36:47,706 --> 00:36:50,125
Well, I love our country,
772
00:36:50,792 --> 00:36:52,669
but America is for them, too.
773
00:36:53,086 --> 00:36:55,172
-Uh... Well...
-
774
00:36:55,255 --> 00:36:56,256
-Oh, Tam?
-Mm?
775
00:36:56,340 --> 00:36:57,674
Will you mind getting me another Coke?
776
00:36:57,758 --> 00:36:58,967
Jim, let your wife speak.
777
00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:03,180
Debate. I think it gets us
all back to unity.
778
00:37:03,347 --> 00:37:06,099
Oh, I don't want to debate you, Jerry.
I love you.
779
00:37:06,266 --> 00:37:08,310
-I love all of you guys.
-Reverend Falwell.
780
00:37:09,269 --> 00:37:10,270
PAT: Um...
781
00:37:10,354 --> 00:37:12,230
We love you, too, Tammy Faye.
782
00:37:12,314 --> 00:37:13,732
MAN: Yes, we do.
783
00:37:15,067 --> 00:37:16,234
JERRY: God as my witness,
784
00:37:16,318 --> 00:37:20,572
I made a pledge to continue
to expose the sins in this country.
785
00:37:21,198 --> 00:37:24,868
The Bible explicitly
forbids homosexuality.
786
00:37:25,077 --> 00:37:26,787
There's no gray area.
787
00:37:27,329 --> 00:37:28,330
TAMMY: Mm.
788
00:37:28,413 --> 00:37:32,042
Well, you know, I don't think
of them as homosexuals.
789
00:37:32,125 --> 00:37:34,586
I just think of them as other
human beings that I love.
790
00:37:35,003 --> 00:37:38,799
You know, we're all just people
made out of the same old dirt.
791
00:37:38,966 --> 00:37:40,968
And God didn't make any junk.
792
00:37:42,177 --> 00:37:43,178
Right, honey?
793
00:37:46,848 --> 00:37:47,975
-JIM: Tammy?
-Hmm?
794
00:37:49,434 --> 00:37:50,686
-Tam.
-Hmm?
795
00:37:50,769 --> 00:37:52,813
You can't...
What are you doing?
796
00:37:52,896 --> 00:37:54,189
TAMMY: I'm changing the baby, honey.
797
00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:56,608
JIM: You can't talk
to him like that.
798
00:37:57,567 --> 00:38:00,737
That's the big boss man.
We need him to like us.
799
00:38:00,904 --> 00:38:02,572
-Jim.
-No, Tammy.
800
00:38:02,739 --> 00:38:05,659
Look, listen to me.
I'm trying to build something here.
801
00:38:06,076 --> 00:38:07,327
I'm not messing around.
802
00:38:07,494 --> 00:38:10,580
God told me He wants me
to have what Pat has.
803
00:38:10,747 --> 00:38:13,959
But if you keep acting like that,
if you keep talking to Falwell that way,
804
00:38:14,042 --> 00:38:15,293
I'm not gonna ever get there.
805
00:38:15,419 --> 00:38:17,713
Well, God's been talking to me, too,
you know, Jim?
806
00:38:17,879 --> 00:38:19,464
And He said that I gotta speak up.
807
00:38:20,674 --> 00:38:22,217
So, here goes.
808
00:38:22,384 --> 00:38:25,012
You can't leave me at home all alone,
809
00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:27,681
feeling unloved, and useless.
810
00:38:29,141 --> 00:38:32,728
And He said that I belong on TV
just as much as you do.
811
00:38:32,894 --> 00:38:35,522
And that I should sing
and I should be funny.
812
00:38:35,605 --> 00:38:38,358
And I should talk about real things
for grown-ups.
813
00:38:38,525 --> 00:38:40,777
Just, you know, just the way you do.
814
00:38:42,821 --> 00:38:43,822
And...
815
00:38:44,865 --> 00:38:48,702
He says I'm not gonna tell people
who's going to Hell, Jim.
816
00:38:49,995 --> 00:38:52,289
We're in the business of healing people.
817
00:38:55,125 --> 00:38:56,334
Yes.
818
00:38:58,003 --> 00:39:00,797
Jerry Falwell's a powerful man,
Tammy Faye.
819
00:39:03,175 --> 00:39:05,010
Jim Bakker
820
00:39:06,303 --> 00:39:09,306
is a powerful man.
821
00:39:09,473 --> 00:39:11,641
-Jim Bakker.
-
822
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:18,857
Yes, he is, Tammy Faye Bakker.
823
00:39:20,734 --> 00:39:24,362
I'm so, so sorry.
I forgot my own strength...
824
00:39:25,405 --> 00:39:27,866
and my manly duties.
825
00:39:31,078 --> 00:39:32,954
You know, we built CBN in four years
826
00:39:33,038 --> 00:39:35,373
and we could build our own in half that.
827
00:39:36,249 --> 00:39:38,001
Yes, I think we can.
828
00:39:39,544 --> 00:39:41,505
-Oh, yeah, we can.
-
829
00:39:42,631 --> 00:39:45,133
-Yes.
-
830
00:39:45,926 --> 00:39:49,679
Jim Bakker is gonna
be a builder for Christ.
831
00:39:50,347 --> 00:39:52,349
Oh, yes, he will.
832
00:39:52,432 --> 00:39:55,435
-And Tammy Faye Bakker
833
00:39:55,602 --> 00:40:00,232
is gonna sing her gospel
all around the world.
834
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,442
We are gonna spread His word.
835
00:40:02,984 --> 00:40:03,985
Oh, my!
836
00:40:07,531 --> 00:40:09,324
ANNOUNCER: Coming to you
from Praise The Lord studios
837
00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:10,867
in Charlotte, North Carolina,
838
00:40:11,034 --> 00:40:14,037
broadcasting live
across this great nation.
839
00:40:14,830 --> 00:40:15,914
Praise The Lord television network
840
00:40:16,081 --> 00:40:19,167
presents our five-year anniversary
Christmas special...
841
00:40:19,251 --> 00:40:21,628
the Jim and Tammy Show!
842
00:40:21,711 --> 00:40:22,838
Ooh we're blest
843
00:40:24,381 --> 00:40:26,883
We are blest
844
00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:29,469
Yes, we've got shelter
clothing and strength
845
00:40:29,636 --> 00:40:32,597
We are blest
846
00:40:32,764 --> 00:40:34,891
We're blest, we're blest, we're blest
847
00:40:35,058 --> 00:40:37,936
We are blest
848
00:40:38,103 --> 00:40:43,233
We don't deserve it
but yet we are blest
849
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,820
We don't deserve it but yet we are blest
850
00:40:46,903 --> 00:40:48,446
-Hi, everybody!
851
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,951
Nice to see you.
Hi! How are you?
852
00:40:53,410 --> 00:40:55,579
Look at all of you! Wow!
853
00:40:55,662 --> 00:40:56,997
My land!
854
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,583
What a beautiful audience!
Hi, how are you doing?
855
00:40:59,666 --> 00:41:03,086
God has worked miracles!
I want miracles for all of us!
856
00:41:03,253 --> 00:41:06,339
We've got a marvelous show for you today.
Little Richard is here!
857
00:41:06,548 --> 00:41:07,924
God loves you.
858
00:41:08,091 --> 00:41:09,467
He really does!
859
00:41:09,551 --> 00:41:12,345
REPORTER: They are doing God's work
teaching skills to the homeless.
860
00:41:12,554 --> 00:41:14,097
Providing housing for unwed mothers
861
00:41:14,181 --> 00:41:15,557
and handicapped children.
862
00:41:21,771 --> 00:41:24,357
PTL brings the word of God
and Jesus Christ
863
00:41:24,441 --> 00:41:25,567
-to the whole world.
-That's it.
864
00:41:25,734 --> 00:41:28,153
-God bless you, honey.
-It's a powerful thing!
865
00:41:34,701 --> 00:41:36,703
REPORTER 2: Five years ago,
the PTL network
866
00:41:36,786 --> 00:41:39,623
was little more than a prayer
and a dream.
867
00:41:39,831 --> 00:41:42,167
Today, the nation's
fourth largest network.
868
00:41:42,334 --> 00:41:47,088
We don't deserve it but yet we are blest
869
00:41:47,672 --> 00:41:51,801
We don't deserve it but yet we are blest
870
00:41:52,802 --> 00:41:54,221
Yes, people. We truly are blessed
871
00:41:54,387 --> 00:41:56,389
because there is no condemnation for them
872
00:41:56,473 --> 00:41:57,974
which are in Jesus Christ.
873
00:41:58,141 --> 00:42:01,228
Therefore, if God is for us,
who could be against us?
874
00:42:01,394 --> 00:42:03,688
Blessed are they that hunger
and thirst for His glory,
875
00:42:03,772 --> 00:42:05,857
for they shall be filled.
876
00:42:06,024 --> 00:42:08,902
Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.
877
00:42:09,069 --> 00:42:13,031
We have gathered us into His kingdom
and made us priests of God his Father.
878
00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:17,702
Give unto Him everlasting glory,
He rules forever! Amen!
879
00:42:17,827 --> 00:42:19,496
-Amen!
880
00:42:19,663 --> 00:42:21,081
Wow!
881
00:42:23,917 --> 00:42:25,418
My land!
882
00:42:29,381 --> 00:42:31,549
Tammy Faye, ladies and gentlemen,
883
00:42:31,633 --> 00:42:32,634
Tammy Faye Bakker!
884
00:42:33,802 --> 00:42:37,472
And it's the happiest time of the year,
it's Christmas!
885
00:42:38,265 --> 00:42:40,600
And remember, never forget it.
886
00:42:41,184 --> 00:42:44,271
You know what I'm gonna say.
God loves you.
887
00:42:44,437 --> 00:42:46,398
He really, really, really does.
888
00:42:46,564 --> 00:42:48,358
Merry Christmas, everyone!
889
00:42:48,525 --> 00:42:51,069
-Merry Christmas!
-Bye-bye, everybody!
890
00:42:51,236 --> 00:42:52,946
I'm Fletcher, Jim's right-hand man.
891
00:42:53,113 --> 00:42:55,448
Jim and Tammy are gonna be
so happy to see you.
892
00:42:55,615 --> 00:42:58,451
I can't believe you've never
made it down to the studios before.
893
00:42:58,535 --> 00:43:01,329
Well, the Carolinas are a long way
from International Falls.
894
00:43:01,454 --> 00:43:03,665
Have you always been involved
with the church, Mr. Fletcher?
895
00:43:03,832 --> 00:43:05,375
I've done all sorts of things.
896
00:43:05,542 --> 00:43:07,711
Once, I was even a party clown.
897
00:43:07,877 --> 00:43:09,004
You don't believe me, but it's true.
898
00:43:09,337 --> 00:43:10,880
Come, this way.
Show's about to start.
899
00:43:10,964 --> 00:43:11,965
FRED: Party clown?
900
00:43:12,048 --> 00:43:13,258
We'll get you set up.
901
00:43:13,425 --> 00:43:15,719
MAN: But the penile implant
of the inflatable type
902
00:43:15,802 --> 00:43:17,387
is the one that we see here.
903
00:43:17,554 --> 00:43:18,972
Mm-hmm.
And this is the newest one?
904
00:43:19,139 --> 00:43:22,183
Well, it is. And when the man
wants to become erect,
905
00:43:22,976 --> 00:43:24,394
he simply reaches down
906
00:43:24,561 --> 00:43:27,897
and he squeezes that several times
907
00:43:28,064 --> 00:43:29,357
and the man becomes firm.
908
00:43:29,482 --> 00:43:31,484
I think that's fantastic.
909
00:43:32,944 --> 00:43:35,155
-Go ahead, audience, go ahead.
-
910
00:43:37,449 --> 00:43:39,200
Well, you know something else
that's fantastic?
911
00:43:39,367 --> 00:43:41,202
I'm so excited I'm just beside myself.
912
00:43:41,411 --> 00:43:43,621
I would like to introduce you
913
00:43:43,788 --> 00:43:46,875
to my mother and her husband,
914
00:43:47,042 --> 00:43:48,710
Rachel and Fred Grover.
915
00:43:49,169 --> 00:43:51,463
Stand up, everybody, stand up.
916
00:43:51,713 --> 00:43:52,714
Come on. Stand up,
917
00:43:52,797 --> 00:43:54,591
that deserves a big ol' round of applause.
918
00:43:56,926 --> 00:43:58,470
Stand up, Mom.
919
00:44:04,517 --> 00:44:05,727
TAMMY: Thank you.
920
00:44:05,894 --> 00:44:07,562
So, here's the house.
921
00:44:07,729 --> 00:44:10,607
Isn't it beautiful?
I just think it's so neat.
922
00:44:10,690 --> 00:44:13,777
Our ministry's building lots of houses
on the PTL property.
923
00:44:13,943 --> 00:44:16,488
There's one with pregnant teens
and one for kids with needs.
924
00:44:16,654 --> 00:44:18,198
It's all part of our mission
to help people.
925
00:44:18,365 --> 00:44:20,158
FRED: This is just wonderful, honey.
926
00:44:20,325 --> 00:44:21,659
Yeah, I'm so glad you guys are here.
927
00:44:21,785 --> 00:44:23,286
I got you set up in the guest room
928
00:44:23,453 --> 00:44:26,122
and you can stay there
until your new house is ready.
929
00:44:26,581 --> 00:44:28,958
Come on.
Let me give you a tour.
930
00:44:29,125 --> 00:44:32,754
This is the relaxation room.
931
00:44:33,797 --> 00:44:36,716
Oh, now that you're here,
I'm just gonna bug you any time I want to.
932
00:44:36,883 --> 00:44:39,511
Oh, yeah, I'm gonna wake you up
any hour of the night.
933
00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:42,222
I'm just so glad to have you here
in the PTL property with me, Mom.
934
00:44:43,890 --> 00:44:46,643
All those people looking at me
and clapping.
935
00:44:46,810 --> 00:44:47,936
Oh, no.
936
00:44:48,103 --> 00:44:50,271
RACHEL: I don't appreciate
being bamboozled like that.
937
00:44:50,438 --> 00:44:51,564
It's love, Mom.
938
00:44:52,315 --> 00:44:53,817
Oh, yeah, that's God's love.
939
00:44:53,983 --> 00:44:56,653
Every day, I have rapture.
940
00:44:56,820 --> 00:44:57,821
RACHEL: Rapture?
941
00:44:57,987 --> 00:45:01,616
You just spent an hour talking
about pumping penises.
942
00:45:03,868 --> 00:45:05,328
Well, these things happen to people
943
00:45:05,495 --> 00:45:08,373
and I'm just being honest
about the way that life is.
944
00:45:08,540 --> 00:45:11,376
And I'm providing solutions
945
00:45:11,543 --> 00:45:13,211
to make marriages better.
946
00:45:13,378 --> 00:45:15,046
-Tam, where's the privy?
-On the left.
947
00:45:15,213 --> 00:45:16,214
Okay.
948
00:45:16,423 --> 00:45:17,465
Sit down, Mom.
949
00:45:18,341 --> 00:45:20,176
Who paid for this house, Tammy?
950
00:45:20,468 --> 00:45:21,886
Well, the ministry makes lots of houses.
951
00:45:22,053 --> 00:45:23,805
We've got one for unwed mothers.
952
00:45:23,888 --> 00:45:25,014
Wait till you see Kevin's House.
953
00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:27,809
Oh, yeah, that one's for kids
with special needs.
954
00:45:27,976 --> 00:45:30,728
And it's named after a sweet little boy
named Kevin.
955
00:45:30,854 --> 00:45:31,855
Oh, he's 13 years old
956
00:45:32,063 --> 00:45:35,275
and he is the sweetest,
tiniest little thing you ever saw.
957
00:45:35,442 --> 00:45:37,652
His hands are attached to his shoulders
958
00:45:37,819 --> 00:45:39,529
and he has no arms at all.
959
00:45:39,696 --> 00:45:40,905
Bless his little heart.
960
00:45:41,739 --> 00:45:43,408
Let me show you to your room.
961
00:45:46,619 --> 00:45:48,163
Okay, everyone,
let's see if I can do this.
962
00:45:48,329 --> 00:45:50,874
So, now, you're gonna
go in a circle.
963
00:45:50,957 --> 00:45:54,043
Oh, mine looks a little bit
like it had an explosion.
964
00:45:54,127 --> 00:45:55,420
-You know what I'm gonna do?
965
00:45:55,503 --> 00:45:58,214
'Cause normally when I use frosting,
it's not this thick.
966
00:45:58,298 --> 00:45:59,299
I'm just gonna do that.
967
00:45:59,382 --> 00:46:00,717
-I think it's gonna be pretty.
-
968
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,427
You know, next time,
I'm gonna make you guys my fudge.
969
00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:04,512
That's the best.
I think I've only made that,
970
00:46:04,596 --> 00:46:07,223
you know, on the show,
like, a couple times. Mm.
971
00:46:07,307 --> 00:46:09,100
I know! I wish we had smell-o-vision,
972
00:46:09,184 --> 00:46:10,185
-so you could smell this.
-
973
00:46:10,268 --> 00:46:11,895
This is really nice.
974
00:46:18,193 --> 00:46:19,360
Oh!
975
00:46:19,444 --> 00:46:21,070
That one.
How much time do we have?
976
00:46:21,154 --> 00:46:22,155
MAN: 10 minutes, Tammy.
977
00:46:22,322 --> 00:46:23,823
Oh, goodness!
978
00:46:27,619 --> 00:46:29,162
Wasn't that fun?
979
00:46:29,329 --> 00:46:32,165
I'm not sure what's so Christian
about decorating a cupcake.
980
00:46:32,332 --> 00:46:34,709
Oh, Mom, you're so funny.
981
00:46:34,792 --> 00:46:36,503
-Have you seen this?
-TAMMY: Hmm?
982
00:46:36,586 --> 00:46:37,712
From The Observer.
983
00:46:37,879 --> 00:46:39,839
Picture of you and Jim on the front.
984
00:46:39,923 --> 00:46:40,924
Ah.
985
00:46:41,007 --> 00:46:43,468
"PTL's Bakker diverts ministry funds
986
00:46:43,635 --> 00:46:46,012
"for new building project."
987
00:46:46,513 --> 00:46:47,764
What's that about?
988
00:46:49,265 --> 00:46:50,642
Well, you can't believe everything
989
00:46:50,725 --> 00:46:52,477
that you read in the newspapers, Mom.
990
00:46:52,644 --> 00:46:54,270
How's Fred doing?
Is he settling in okay?
991
00:46:54,354 --> 00:46:57,649
Smoke and fire
idn't just the providence of Hell, girl.
992
00:46:57,815 --> 00:46:59,734
You know when I saw that
clipping with my face on it,
993
00:46:59,817 --> 00:47:01,653
I thought for a second
that you were proud of me.
994
00:47:02,779 --> 00:47:06,366
I'm hearing there are articles like this
in the paper every day.
995
00:47:07,033 --> 00:47:08,618
The secular press hates us
996
00:47:08,701 --> 00:47:11,621
because we're winning
millions of souls for Jesus.
997
00:47:12,664 --> 00:47:14,040
Oh, Tammy Faye.
998
00:47:14,207 --> 00:47:15,792
You follow blindly.
999
00:47:15,959 --> 00:47:18,628
In the end, all you are is blind.
1000
00:47:21,297 --> 00:47:22,715
JIM: I don't know how to do it.
1001
00:47:22,882 --> 00:47:25,093
I just need it done.
That is your job.
1002
00:47:25,260 --> 00:47:26,261
Yes.
1003
00:47:27,387 --> 00:47:28,388
Yes.
1004
00:47:28,555 --> 00:47:29,556
God bless you.
1005
00:47:42,068 --> 00:47:44,195
You wonder why I don't snuggle you.
1006
00:47:45,738 --> 00:47:48,908
Maybe it's all that goopy stuff on you.
1007
00:47:49,951 --> 00:47:54,289
Well, it's better than
spending the night with an alligator.
1008
00:47:57,041 --> 00:47:58,543
That newspaper.
1009
00:47:59,544 --> 00:48:02,213
She saved it like
it was a little treasure.
1010
00:48:03,214 --> 00:48:05,508
It made me feel so rotten.
1011
00:48:06,676 --> 00:48:09,387
Well, your mother's never been
all that nice to you.
1012
00:48:10,013 --> 00:48:11,222
Yeah.
1013
00:48:11,848 --> 00:48:13,600
Some people just don't change.
1014
00:48:14,851 --> 00:48:17,312
We're not doing anything wrong, though.
1015
00:48:25,570 --> 00:48:27,405
Is that a question?
1016
00:48:28,656 --> 00:48:29,657
No.
1017
00:48:35,872 --> 00:48:38,708
-
1018
00:48:46,716 --> 00:48:48,301
Tammy, sometimes, I fear
1019
00:48:48,384 --> 00:48:51,554
that what God wants of me
is beyond my abilities.
1020
00:48:52,472 --> 00:48:54,140
I'm building so much for Him
1021
00:48:54,223 --> 00:48:57,143
in His name and for His people.
1022
00:48:57,894 --> 00:48:59,187
-Yeah.
-And...
1023
00:49:00,021 --> 00:49:01,981
And He's giving me
more visions every day.
1024
00:49:02,065 --> 00:49:04,275
Giving me more orders all the time.
1025
00:49:04,359 --> 00:49:07,070
And then, every day, these creditors...
1026
00:49:08,863 --> 00:49:12,241
...and the people who are asking me
to save them.
1027
00:49:14,577 --> 00:49:16,287
-I'm only one man.
-
1028
00:49:16,371 --> 00:49:17,622
I'm only one man, Tammy.
1029
00:49:17,705 --> 00:49:18,998
TAMMY: Oh, Jim.
1030
00:49:20,375 --> 00:49:22,960
Well, I only need one man.
1031
00:49:23,127 --> 00:49:24,587
You're enough, honey.
1032
00:49:26,506 --> 00:49:28,132
Okay, come on. Come to bed.
1033
00:49:29,384 --> 00:49:31,427
Honey, it's been two months,
1034
00:49:31,594 --> 00:49:34,430
and we said we were gonna try
to have another baby.
1035
00:49:34,597 --> 00:49:36,265
Tammy, I need your help.
1036
00:49:36,766 --> 00:49:39,185
I need you not to get in my way.
1037
00:49:39,352 --> 00:49:42,188
And I need you to not ask
more of me than I can give.
1038
00:49:42,355 --> 00:49:43,356
Okay.
1039
00:49:44,857 --> 00:49:46,317
Do you wanna talk some more?
1040
00:49:47,026 --> 00:49:49,278
-
1041
00:49:52,740 --> 00:49:54,826
-Can you...
-
1042
00:49:54,909 --> 00:49:56,327
Can you talk to God?
1043
00:49:57,995 --> 00:50:00,039
-I'm so tired and...
-
1044
00:50:02,667 --> 00:50:03,668
Yes?
1045
00:50:04,919 --> 00:50:06,254
I'll call you right back.
1046
00:50:07,672 --> 00:50:08,756
I'll take it downstairs.
1047
00:50:21,227 --> 00:50:22,478
Don't give up
1048
00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:25,314
You're on the brink
1049
00:50:25,481 --> 00:50:29,485
Of a miracle
1050
00:50:29,652 --> 00:50:31,654
Don't give up
1051
00:50:31,821 --> 00:50:36,200
Remember you're not alone
1052
00:50:37,702 --> 00:50:42,081
People, don't give up
You're on the brink
1053
00:50:42,248 --> 00:50:45,626
Of a miracle
1054
00:50:45,793 --> 00:50:49,797
Don't give up on the brink
1055
00:50:49,964 --> 00:50:54,010
-Of a miracle
-
1056
00:50:54,177 --> 00:50:56,137
Don't give in
1057
00:50:56,304 --> 00:50:59,974
God is still on the throne
1058
00:51:00,183 --> 00:51:02,226
He's on His throne
1059
00:51:02,643 --> 00:51:04,687
-Don't give up
-
1060
00:51:04,854 --> 00:51:06,647
You nailed it.
1061
00:51:06,814 --> 00:51:08,024
Really?
1062
00:51:08,649 --> 00:51:11,235
This is sublime.
This is top drawer.
1063
00:51:12,195 --> 00:51:13,696
You really think so, Gary?
1064
00:51:14,322 --> 00:51:15,406
I know so.
1065
00:51:15,573 --> 00:51:17,283
Your opinion means so much to me.
1066
00:51:17,450 --> 00:51:19,243
I haven't been this excited
about working with an artist
1067
00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:20,953
since I produced Monster Mash.
1068
00:51:21,871 --> 00:51:24,373
That's really sweet.
1069
00:51:24,916 --> 00:51:26,626
We could get a Grammy.
1070
00:51:26,959 --> 00:51:28,920
-Really?
-Really.
1071
00:51:34,967 --> 00:51:37,011
Tammy, it's time to go.
Time for the shoot.
1072
00:51:37,136 --> 00:51:38,387
Come on. We're...
1073
00:51:39,347 --> 00:51:40,681
Can you hear me?
Can you hear me?
1074
00:51:40,765 --> 00:51:41,808
-Yeah.
-We've been looking for you,
1075
00:51:41,891 --> 00:51:44,227
so, let's go.
We're live in 15 minutes.
1076
00:51:44,435 --> 00:51:46,062
Hey, hey, Jim, how are ya?
1077
00:51:46,854 --> 00:51:48,314
Blessed, Gary, blessed.
1078
00:51:48,397 --> 00:51:50,733
I'm sorry, Jim.
You know, I got lost in the music.
1079
00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:53,945
Gary here,
he just makes it all so awesome.
1080
00:51:54,028 --> 00:51:55,279
-Wait till you hear it.
1081
00:51:55,363 --> 00:51:56,364
You're going to love it.
1082
00:51:56,447 --> 00:51:57,990
No, it's her voice, Jim.
1083
00:51:58,074 --> 00:52:01,327
I just turn the knobs here.
She sings like an angel.
1084
00:52:02,537 --> 00:52:05,331
Well, I'm never giving you
back to Nashville, oh, no!
1085
00:52:06,249 --> 00:52:08,209
It's such a beautiful way
to connect, Jim.
1086
00:52:08,376 --> 00:52:10,169
It's God's voice through my voice.
1087
00:52:10,336 --> 00:52:11,754
To the world's ears.
1088
00:52:12,338 --> 00:52:13,631
The things you say, Gary.
1089
00:52:14,757 --> 00:52:16,634
Tammy! You're not camera ready.
1090
00:52:16,801 --> 00:52:18,636
You know everybody's waiting for you
and it's a big day.
1091
00:52:18,803 --> 00:52:21,305
We gotta do 400 K today.
Can we shake a leg, please?
1092
00:52:21,472 --> 00:52:23,391
Thank you.
I'm sorry to drag her away, Gary.
1093
00:52:25,977 --> 00:52:27,061
Shake a leg, please.
1094
00:52:27,228 --> 00:52:28,354
Sure thing, Mister.
1095
00:52:28,437 --> 00:52:29,647
Thank you.
1096
00:52:29,814 --> 00:52:31,274
-GARY: Jim.
-Thank you, Gary.
1097
00:52:32,149 --> 00:52:33,276
-Tam?
-Mm?
1098
00:52:39,198 --> 00:52:40,867
-TAMMY: Ta-da! I made it!
-
1099
00:52:41,826 --> 00:52:43,286
MAN: 30 seconds, everyone!
1100
00:52:44,579 --> 00:52:45,705
WOMAN: Light on one, please!
1101
00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:51,460
Hmm. How's that?
1102
00:52:51,627 --> 00:52:52,670
MAN 2: Yeah.
1103
00:52:56,132 --> 00:52:59,427
MAN 3: And we're live in five, four,
1104
00:52:59,594 --> 00:53:02,388
three, two...
1105
00:53:06,517 --> 00:53:10,771
Tammy and I are undergoing
the most vicious attacks
1106
00:53:10,938 --> 00:53:13,232
in the history of this ministry.
1107
00:53:14,525 --> 00:53:18,613
By now, perhaps you think
that we should be used to these attacks.
1108
00:53:19,572 --> 00:53:21,866
But it's been going on
for a long time, Tammy.
1109
00:53:22,033 --> 00:53:23,284
Oh, yeah, that's right, Jim.
1110
00:53:23,367 --> 00:53:25,369
It's been going on a long time.
1111
00:53:26,245 --> 00:53:29,123
We are being persecuted
by the secular press
1112
00:53:29,290 --> 00:53:33,753
who simply do not want you
to receive the word of God.
1113
00:53:34,545 --> 00:53:36,130
JIM: It is a witch hunt.
1114
00:53:36,297 --> 00:53:39,926
And on top of this,
we have numerous past due bills...
1115
00:53:40,009 --> 00:53:41,344
that must be paid
1116
00:53:41,427 --> 00:53:43,846
if we want to save the entire network
1117
00:53:43,971 --> 00:53:46,849
and stay on the air
delivering the word of God every day.
1118
00:53:47,016 --> 00:53:50,061
So, now is the time
for our prayer warriors
1119
00:53:50,227 --> 00:53:53,105
to rise up because we are in a war.
1120
00:53:53,898 --> 00:53:58,194
You know, Tammy and I,
we just hate to do this,
1121
00:54:00,071 --> 00:54:02,156
but if every person watching
1122
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,576
could double their pledge right now,
1123
00:54:06,452 --> 00:54:09,789
that way, we can save
the word of God.
1124
00:54:09,956 --> 00:54:11,832
I'm talking about salvation.
1125
00:54:11,999 --> 00:54:16,796
Yours, mine, PTL's, the entire world's.
1126
00:54:16,963 --> 00:54:20,216
So, together, if we agree together,
1127
00:54:20,383 --> 00:54:23,177
let's give the devil a black eye.
1128
00:54:24,553 --> 00:54:27,056
Oh, the phones are ringing. Oh.
1129
00:54:27,139 --> 00:54:30,393
-Praise Jesus and praise you!
-
1130
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:33,104
And God bless you!
God bless you!
1131
00:54:33,187 --> 00:54:34,522
TAMMY: Hallelujah!
1132
00:54:34,689 --> 00:54:38,025
And don't forget, remember,
God loves you.
1133
00:54:38,567 --> 00:54:41,904
-He really, really does.
-He really does.
1134
00:54:45,449 --> 00:54:46,575
MAN: Cut! Very good, everyone.
1135
00:54:46,659 --> 00:54:48,160
That was not bad. How was that?
1136
00:54:48,327 --> 00:54:50,955
-How was it?
-Uh, that was good, Jim.
1137
00:54:51,038 --> 00:54:53,124
-We need to talk. Now.
-Jim, it was great.
1138
00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:55,751
FLETCHER: We're still gonna
be over budget on that...
1139
00:54:59,088 --> 00:55:01,966
TAMMY: I just want the sleeves
a little shorter.
1140
00:55:02,174 --> 00:55:04,010
Everything's about proportion.
1141
00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:08,305
Okay, you ready to see?
Close your eyes.
1142
00:55:10,349 --> 00:55:12,810
-I love it, Mother.
-
1143
00:55:13,310 --> 00:55:14,979
Oh, Sissy, you look so beautiful, baby.
1144
00:55:15,146 --> 00:55:16,439
-Thank you.
-
1145
00:55:16,605 --> 00:55:18,774
RACHEL: Golly Moses,
this thing weighs a ton.
1146
00:55:19,483 --> 00:55:20,526
Oh, goodness.
1147
00:55:20,609 --> 00:55:22,445
RACHEL: Why do you have to do
so much shopping, Tam?
1148
00:55:22,570 --> 00:55:24,905
Well, I have to get my exercise somehow.
1149
00:55:25,072 --> 00:55:28,284
And, plus, I don't wanna balloon up
with the new baby coming.
1150
00:55:28,451 --> 00:55:30,578
Hey, everyone,
come here, come here.
1151
00:55:31,287 --> 00:55:32,288
Now, when she comes out,
1152
00:55:32,455 --> 00:55:35,207
make sure you all tell her
how great she looks, okay?
1153
00:55:35,374 --> 00:55:36,876
You know, she hasn't had
enough love in her life,
1154
00:55:36,959 --> 00:55:40,087
and it's time that we all change that.
1155
00:55:41,422 --> 00:55:42,423
Go on.
1156
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:49,430
Good grief.
1157
00:55:49,597 --> 00:55:53,976
You look so good! Come here.
You do.
1158
00:55:54,143 --> 00:55:55,311
Right?
1159
00:55:55,478 --> 00:55:56,562
Okay, get up on the pedestal.
1160
00:55:56,729 --> 00:55:57,813
I am not getting up on the pedestal.
1161
00:55:57,980 --> 00:55:59,065
-Come on, Grandma.
-Come on.
1162
00:55:59,231 --> 00:56:00,566
-Come on.
-Don't push me.
1163
00:56:02,109 --> 00:56:04,278
Isn't it fun?
We look like triplets.
1164
00:56:04,445 --> 00:56:06,447
I look like a bear.
1165
00:56:06,614 --> 00:56:08,199
You look like a beautiful bear.
1166
00:56:08,657 --> 00:56:10,868
-Oh. It's too much.
-No.
1167
00:56:10,951 --> 00:56:12,578
RACHEL: I already have a coat.
1168
00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:14,622
I don't need it.
1169
00:56:15,831 --> 00:56:18,918
Why are you so unwilling to accept
the love that God has for you?
1170
00:56:20,002 --> 00:56:21,504
Can you pay for this?
1171
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:23,714
The pledges are rolling in, Mom.
1172
00:56:23,881 --> 00:56:25,966
People really like the show
1173
00:56:26,133 --> 00:56:29,970
and they're very happy to accept the love.
1174
00:56:31,722 --> 00:56:33,182
Take the coat, Mom.
1175
00:56:33,724 --> 00:56:35,935
Just take the coat.
1176
00:56:36,018 --> 00:56:37,061
RACHEL: Well...
1177
00:56:37,144 --> 00:56:38,938
TAMMY: Please, for me.
1178
00:56:40,481 --> 00:56:44,902
Well, it is attractive,
and it's very, very warm.
1179
00:56:46,153 --> 00:56:47,279
JIM: I just feel like a million dollars.
1180
00:56:47,363 --> 00:56:49,156
WANDA: It looks great, Jim.
JIM: You think?
1181
00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:50,407
Yeah, very subtle.
1182
00:56:50,574 --> 00:56:52,409
I didn't feel a thing. Not a thing.
1183
00:56:52,576 --> 00:56:54,286
And I played golf the next day.
1184
00:56:54,453 --> 00:56:55,454
So, we'll have a girl's night.
1185
00:56:55,538 --> 00:56:56,580
We'll go to Maciano's, get some pasta.
1186
00:56:56,664 --> 00:56:57,665
SISSY: Yes, yes.
1187
00:56:57,748 --> 00:56:59,416
-I love that place.
-Yeah? Oh, wait.
1188
00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:02,002
You know, why don't you go ahead,
I'm gonna catch up.
1189
00:57:02,211 --> 00:57:04,171
-I'm gonna go give Jim a kiss.
-Okay.
1190
00:57:04,338 --> 00:57:05,339
See ya.
1191
00:57:06,674 --> 00:57:08,592
And that reporter from
The Charlotte Observer
1192
00:57:08,676 --> 00:57:10,261
-been poking around.
-
1193
00:57:10,344 --> 00:57:13,055
Calling some of our secretaries,
asking for comments.
1194
00:57:13,139 --> 00:57:14,890
I'm gonna put a picture
of that guy's butt...
1195
00:57:14,974 --> 00:57:17,852
-...on a punching bag
1196
00:57:18,018 --> 00:57:20,187
and I'm gonna use it for practice.
1197
00:57:21,355 --> 00:57:22,898
FLETCHER: We need to talk
about the deficit
1198
00:57:22,982 --> 00:57:24,692
we are running
on the expansion to studio...
1199
00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:27,778
JIM: Phooey! Fletcher, no,
you're such a worrywart.
1200
00:57:27,945 --> 00:57:29,905
We're gonna do a telethon next week.
1201
00:57:30,072 --> 00:57:31,949
The partners will not let us down.
1202
00:57:32,116 --> 00:57:33,617
Wanda, my nose is shiny.
1203
00:57:33,701 --> 00:57:34,869
WANDA: Mm-mm.
JIM: Yes, it is.
1204
00:57:34,952 --> 00:57:36,245
-WANDA: No.
-I'm telling you, Wanda.
1205
00:57:36,328 --> 00:57:38,038
-It's fine.
-A little more powder, please.
1206
00:57:38,205 --> 00:57:39,498
FLETCHER:
Your nose isn't shiny, Jim.
1207
00:57:39,582 --> 00:57:40,791
You're just being fussy.
1208
00:57:40,875 --> 00:57:42,418
-FLETCHER: Wanda, tell him he's fussy.
1209
00:57:42,501 --> 00:57:43,919
You're fussy, Pastor Jim.
1210
00:57:44,003 --> 00:57:45,045
JIM: Oh, how dare you.
1211
00:57:45,129 --> 00:57:46,964
You're wearing as much
as Tammy these days.
1212
00:57:48,507 --> 00:57:50,426
Careful, you'll end up
looking like a clown.
1213
00:57:52,094 --> 00:57:54,430
-Stop it! You can't talk...
-But you know it's true.
1214
00:57:54,513 --> 00:57:55,723
-You know it's true.
-JIM: Fletcher.
1215
00:57:55,806 --> 00:57:57,516
You got Wanda laughing.
1216
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,226
FLETCHER: She's not laughing.
What are you laughing at?
1217
00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:00,477
-It's not funny.
1218
00:58:00,561 --> 00:58:02,271
It's not funny.
1219
00:58:02,438 --> 00:58:03,814
You guys!
1220
00:58:04,023 --> 00:58:06,066
Oh, I got a new one.
1221
00:58:06,233 --> 00:58:08,277
Penny, cover your ears.
1222
00:58:08,444 --> 00:58:10,029
What did the leper say to the prostitute?
1223
00:58:10,196 --> 00:58:11,614
-Oh, boy.
-What?
1224
00:58:11,780 --> 00:58:13,407
"You can keep the tip."
1225
00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:14,658
-Oh, shit.
1226
00:58:16,410 --> 00:58:19,079
Jim, you mean jerk!
You're gonna pay for that.
1227
00:58:19,246 --> 00:58:21,207
JIM: I went too far.
I went too far. I'm sorry.
1228
00:58:22,458 --> 00:58:24,710
-I got you now. I got you now.
-JIM: Wanda! Wanda!
1229
00:58:24,793 --> 00:58:25,836
FLETCHER: Wanda, come here.
1230
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,171
Come here and powder his nose.
1231
00:58:27,254 --> 00:58:28,464
JIM: No! No!
FLETCHER: "Wanda, help.
1232
00:58:28,547 --> 00:58:30,299
-"Wanda. Wanda.
-
1233
00:58:31,258 --> 00:58:32,968
"My nose is shiny."
1234
00:58:34,178 --> 00:58:37,389
Let me powder your nose.
Let me powder your nose.
1235
00:58:53,155 --> 00:58:56,200
Somebody touched me
1236
00:58:56,367 --> 00:58:57,701
Hallelujah
1237
00:58:57,868 --> 00:59:01,538
Somebody touched me
1238
00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:06,460
Oh, I was blind
But praise His name
1239
00:59:06,627 --> 00:59:09,171
I now can see
1240
00:59:10,965 --> 00:59:15,052
I was in darkness
1241
00:59:15,219 --> 00:59:19,348
When Jesus found me
1242
00:59:19,515 --> 00:59:23,394
But since He touched me
1243
00:59:25,604 --> 00:59:31,402
I now am free
1244
00:59:32,528 --> 00:59:33,612
-Wow.
1245
00:59:33,696 --> 00:59:35,489
That was beautiful.
That was lovely, Tam.
1246
00:59:35,656 --> 00:59:36,949
Gary.
1247
00:59:38,450 --> 00:59:40,244
Aren't you glad He touched you?
1248
00:59:40,411 --> 00:59:42,121
Truly. Yeah.
1249
00:59:45,958 --> 00:59:48,002
Well, this is perfect. I love this.
1250
00:59:48,168 --> 00:59:50,087
Well, it's all you,
Tam, it's all you.
1251
00:59:50,254 --> 00:59:54,508
Oh, no. No, no.
You know I couldn't do this without you.
1252
00:59:54,675 --> 00:59:58,220
You know, your voice
makes me feel closer to Him.
1253
00:59:58,971 --> 01:00:00,973
Like He's right here.
1254
01:00:02,766 --> 01:00:03,934
He is.
1255
01:00:09,106 --> 01:00:13,319
when was the last time
that you were touched
1256
01:00:15,029 --> 01:00:17,573
in the way that a woman
like you should be touched?
1257
01:00:18,699 --> 01:00:21,243
Oh, well...
1258
01:00:22,619 --> 01:00:23,829
I'm eight months pregnant, Gary,
1259
01:00:23,912 --> 01:00:25,456
so back it up from there.
1260
01:00:26,749 --> 01:00:30,461
Does his touch tell you
how talented you are?
1261
01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:34,631
Gary.
1262
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,634
Do his eyes tell you
how beautiful you are?
1263
01:00:40,971 --> 01:00:43,390
Does he listen to you?
1264
01:00:43,557 --> 01:00:45,559
Does he hear how amazing you are?
1265
01:00:46,602 --> 01:00:47,811
Tammy.
1266
01:00:47,978 --> 01:00:49,271
Yes.
1267
01:00:49,855 --> 01:00:51,899
Can I touch you like that?
1268
01:00:52,775 --> 01:00:57,071
In that way that you should be touched.
1269
01:01:01,492 --> 01:01:02,534
You can kiss me
1270
01:01:02,618 --> 01:01:03,702
-on my neck.
-Okay.
1271
01:01:03,786 --> 01:01:05,829
-Don't leave a mark, okay?
-Yeah.
1272
01:01:07,164 --> 01:01:10,000
-
1273
01:01:15,798 --> 01:01:17,800
-
1274
01:01:19,051 --> 01:01:20,260
Come here.
1275
01:01:21,261 --> 01:01:23,097
I wanna hold you.
1276
01:01:28,936 --> 01:01:31,480
-Oh, no. Oh, no.
-What?
1277
01:01:31,563 --> 01:01:33,357
-Leave them on.
-All right.
1278
01:01:34,274 --> 01:01:35,526
Oh, you're so beautiful, Tammy.
1279
01:01:35,692 --> 01:01:36,944
Oh, you're so big.
1280
01:01:37,111 --> 01:01:38,654
Oh, yeah.
1281
01:01:39,738 --> 01:01:40,906
I like this.
1282
01:01:41,073 --> 01:01:42,199
Yeah.
1283
01:01:47,329 --> 01:01:49,039
What? What's wrong?
1284
01:01:49,540 --> 01:01:51,041
My water broke.
1285
01:01:54,753 --> 01:01:55,754
TAMMY: Mm.
1286
01:01:56,964 --> 01:01:58,799
You're so beautiful.
1287
01:02:00,259 --> 01:02:01,593
-
1288
01:02:06,765 --> 01:02:08,308
He's so precious, Jim.
1289
01:02:18,026 --> 01:02:19,653
GARY: Congratulations, Jim.
1290
01:02:37,963 --> 01:02:40,966
I understand
that Gary drove you here?
1291
01:02:42,676 --> 01:02:45,304
GARY: We called the studio, Jim,
but you were on the air.
1292
01:02:46,263 --> 01:02:49,308
Tammy was real upset
that you weren't here for it.
1293
01:02:51,935 --> 01:02:56,857
I'm just wonderful, Jim.
I'm... I'm so wonderful.
1294
01:02:58,775 --> 01:03:02,613
We announced his birth on air.
We got a real surge in pledges.
1295
01:03:03,197 --> 01:03:04,198
Praise the Lord.
1296
01:03:04,364 --> 01:03:06,283
We're gonna get
that expansion in Studio 3,
1297
01:03:06,366 --> 01:03:08,285
thanks to this little miracle.
1298
01:03:08,744 --> 01:03:10,454
GARY: Hmm. Congrats, Jim.
1299
01:03:11,079 --> 01:03:13,081
This is such a day of joy.
1300
01:03:15,918 --> 01:03:17,544
A day of celebration,
1301
01:03:17,711 --> 01:03:22,633
but I just can't help the feeling
that something else is going on here.
1302
01:03:24,551 --> 01:03:26,553
That something depraved
1303
01:03:27,679 --> 01:03:28,931
taints this day.
1304
01:03:31,391 --> 01:03:34,978
GARY: Depraved is a very big word, Jim.
1305
01:03:35,771 --> 01:03:37,814
But it's a fitting word, isn't it, Tammy?
1306
01:03:42,778 --> 01:03:44,321
Yes, Jim.
1307
01:03:51,912 --> 01:03:55,415
Well, Fletcher's waiting outside
1308
01:03:56,250 --> 01:03:58,710
and he'll get this man back to Nashville,
where he belongs.
1309
01:03:58,794 --> 01:04:00,754
-Oh, no. Jim, please, no.
-JIM: Tammy.
1310
01:04:00,963 --> 01:04:02,714
TAMMY: Please.
JIM: Tammy, I suggest
1311
01:04:02,798 --> 01:04:04,424
you don't talk right now.
1312
01:04:05,968 --> 01:04:07,052
Tammy.
1313
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,014
Tammy, I hope you're not gonna
let him do this.
1314
01:04:11,473 --> 01:04:13,225
-Tammy?
1315
01:04:13,392 --> 01:04:16,603
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
1316
01:04:17,771 --> 01:04:19,106
Sorry.
1317
01:04:19,189 --> 01:04:20,857
-
1318
01:04:22,067 --> 01:04:23,819
I'm so sorry, Jim.
1319
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,950
I'm so sorry.
1320
01:04:39,418 --> 01:04:41,003
Can you take the baby away from her,
please?
1321
01:04:41,169 --> 01:04:43,255
NURSE: Okay. All right.
1322
01:04:47,134 --> 01:04:49,636
Let me get you something to
help you sleep, okay, honey?
1323
01:05:16,663 --> 01:05:20,125
Yes.
That's exactly what I told you.
1324
01:05:20,459 --> 01:05:22,919
Formal living quarters
for some of the staff.
1325
01:05:23,003 --> 01:05:24,004
MAN: Wow!
1326
01:05:24,087 --> 01:05:25,297
-JIM: Yes.
-So ornate.
1327
01:05:25,464 --> 01:05:27,507
JIM: Inspired by European architect.
1328
01:05:27,674 --> 01:05:29,676
And over here,
1329
01:05:29,843 --> 01:05:33,180
that's the first Christian water park.
1330
01:05:33,347 --> 01:05:34,890
"We are fishers of men."
1331
01:05:35,057 --> 01:05:36,350
That's the bait.
1332
01:05:37,017 --> 01:05:38,644
-That's good.
1333
01:05:38,727 --> 01:05:39,811
JIM: I wanted to show you this, too.
1334
01:05:39,895 --> 01:05:42,022
See, over here... Yes.
1335
01:05:42,189 --> 01:05:45,400
This is Old Jerusalem.
1336
01:05:45,609 --> 01:05:47,653
And it's a stunning replica.
1337
01:05:48,028 --> 01:05:49,821
Oh, it looks beautiful, Jim.
1338
01:05:49,988 --> 01:05:51,156
-Yeah.
-So detailed.
1339
01:05:53,909 --> 01:05:56,995
You know what they say about details?
God is in 'em.
1340
01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:59,164
Yes.
-That's right.
1341
01:05:59,831 --> 01:06:01,667
You know,
for as long as I can remember, Roe,
1342
01:06:01,750 --> 01:06:05,504
I've dreamed of a vacation destination
for Christian families to come to.
1343
01:06:05,671 --> 01:06:07,798
A place where they can, um...
1344
01:06:08,548 --> 01:06:09,633
Hey, Tam.
1345
01:06:09,841 --> 01:06:11,009
A place where they know
1346
01:06:11,093 --> 01:06:12,886
that their children are gonna be safe,
you know?
1347
01:06:13,053 --> 01:06:14,096
ROE: Sure.
1348
01:06:14,262 --> 01:06:15,806
We're selling partnerships to fund it.
1349
01:06:16,515 --> 01:06:18,058
And that way, the partners,
1350
01:06:18,141 --> 01:06:19,685
they feel the sense of ownership
1351
01:06:20,352 --> 01:06:24,564
and a pride in this Christian paradise
1352
01:06:25,107 --> 01:06:26,400
that they've built.
1353
01:06:26,942 --> 01:06:33,490
Uh... Um, how many partnerships
do you have to sell in order to fund it?
1354
01:06:33,573 --> 01:06:34,700
JIM: Hmm. Well...
1355
01:06:41,790 --> 01:06:42,791
Yes.
1356
01:06:42,874 --> 01:06:45,252
You know, because the partnerships
we've already sold,
1357
01:06:46,795 --> 01:06:49,923
they've had to go
to funding other projects.
1358
01:06:50,841 --> 01:06:52,634
-I see.
-Yes.
1359
01:06:53,385 --> 01:06:54,594
But I've been praying on it.
1360
01:06:55,262 --> 01:06:57,264
I've been hoping
that you could advance PTL
1361
01:06:57,347 --> 01:06:58,807
just a little bit of credit.
1362
01:07:00,142 --> 01:07:04,062
Just to get the bulldozers moving,
you know?
1363
01:07:07,858 --> 01:07:08,900
Hi, honey.
1364
01:07:10,444 --> 01:07:12,779
Uh, this is Roe Messner.
1365
01:07:12,946 --> 01:07:14,823
He's the developer of Heritage USA.
1366
01:07:14,990 --> 01:07:16,533
Well, I'm not the developer yet.
1367
01:07:16,616 --> 01:07:18,034
Yeah.
1368
01:07:18,201 --> 01:07:19,202
Hi.
1369
01:07:24,249 --> 01:07:28,545
The doctors have had
her on so many loopy things
1370
01:07:28,962 --> 01:07:31,548
since Jamie Charles was born.
1371
01:07:31,715 --> 01:07:34,926
Pills to make her normal.
Pills to make her sleep.
1372
01:07:35,093 --> 01:07:36,678
Um, as long as she's feelin' better.
1373
01:07:38,430 --> 01:07:40,599
Yes. Amen.
1374
01:07:41,975 --> 01:07:44,936
I love what you're trying to do here, Jim.
1375
01:07:45,020 --> 01:07:46,646
JIM: Mm.
ROE: I do.
1376
01:07:46,813 --> 01:07:48,982
I spent some summers with my wife
1377
01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:50,317
at Knott's Berry Farm.
1378
01:07:51,610 --> 01:07:54,279
Every year the jellies
got less and less fresh.
1379
01:07:54,529 --> 01:07:56,573
-JIM: Mm.
-And I'm convinced
1380
01:07:56,740 --> 01:07:59,951
it's 'cause they started
hiring the wrong kinds of people
1381
01:08:00,118 --> 01:08:01,119
to make the preserves.
1382
01:08:02,829 --> 01:08:04,539
I knew you were my man, Roe.
1383
01:08:04,623 --> 01:08:06,792
But, uh...
1384
01:08:07,959 --> 01:08:09,586
I'm not a gambler, Mr. Bakker.
1385
01:08:10,587 --> 01:08:13,048
-Oh, well...
-Oh, this isn't gambling, Roe.
1386
01:08:14,299 --> 01:08:15,509
Oh, no, it's faith.
1387
01:08:16,968 --> 01:08:19,596
I have seen him perform miracles.
1388
01:08:20,555 --> 01:08:21,556
ROE: Huh.
1389
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,643
I haven't had anyone
claim to be a faith healer to my face
1390
01:08:28,814 --> 01:08:31,942
Well, buildings are miracles.
1391
01:08:32,275 --> 01:08:33,276
Aren't they, Roe?
1392
01:08:33,443 --> 01:08:36,696
Well, it's amazing
anything ever gets built, that's for sure.
1393
01:08:37,364 --> 01:08:38,865
Yeah.
1394
01:08:39,032 --> 01:08:40,909
This is beautiful.
1395
01:08:41,743 --> 01:08:44,621
We must take a leap of faith for God.
1396
01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:48,208
Especially when the Devil
is makin' us doubt.
1397
01:08:48,834 --> 01:08:50,961
God's on our side, Roe.
1398
01:08:52,504 --> 01:08:54,297
Every time we fall,
1399
01:08:55,090 --> 01:08:57,551
God proves His love again
1400
01:08:58,468 --> 01:09:00,846
and we come back.
1401
01:09:00,929 --> 01:09:06,309
We come back bigger,
and stronger, and better.
1402
01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:17,612
"All things work for good
to them that love God,
1403
01:09:18,822 --> 01:09:25,412
"to them who are called
according to His purpose."
1404
01:09:33,420 --> 01:09:36,089
And I called you, Roe.
1405
01:09:49,436 --> 01:09:51,479
-You're welcome.
1406
01:09:55,108 --> 01:09:57,193
You're owed a "thank you"?
1407
01:09:58,570 --> 01:10:01,406
He was nowhere near saying yes
until I sat down.
1408
01:10:01,865 --> 01:10:05,118
Oh, yes, to flirt with him.
1409
01:10:09,915 --> 01:10:11,917
Are you gonna divorce me, Jim?
1410
01:10:13,001 --> 01:10:14,002
I don't know.
1411
01:10:16,338 --> 01:10:17,339
I should.
1412
01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:23,053
But God hates divorce.
1413
01:10:23,219 --> 01:10:25,180
It ruined your mother.
1414
01:10:26,181 --> 01:10:27,182
It'll do the same to you.
1415
01:10:27,849 --> 01:10:29,976
You stopped paying attention to me, Jim.
1416
01:10:30,060 --> 01:10:32,896
You broke faith with me, Tammy!
1417
01:10:33,063 --> 01:10:37,859
Gary, he told me that I was beautiful
and that I was talented.
1418
01:10:37,943 --> 01:10:39,319
-And he wanted me, Jim.
-
1419
01:10:39,402 --> 01:10:40,528
Don't touch me!
1420
01:10:40,612 --> 01:10:44,240
Gary wanted me, Jim,
in ways that you don't.
1421
01:10:44,407 --> 01:10:45,909
JIM: Oh, my goodness.
1422
01:10:46,201 --> 01:10:48,078
He was my friend.
1423
01:10:48,328 --> 01:10:50,914
You know, I got a letter this week, Tammy.
1424
01:10:51,081 --> 01:10:52,415
From the President.
1425
01:10:52,999 --> 01:10:55,251
The President of the United States,
1426
01:10:55,418 --> 01:10:57,879
Ronald Reagan himself,
wrote me a personal letter
1427
01:10:58,046 --> 01:11:02,008
thanking me for my support
in his election!
1428
01:11:02,884 --> 01:11:05,553
I'm an important man, Tammy Faye!
1429
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,516
And people don't treat important men
the way that you treated me.
1430
01:11:10,684 --> 01:11:11,977
-
1431
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:13,436
I'm gonna clear my head, I'm gonna pray.
1432
01:11:15,438 --> 01:11:16,982
I'm gonna think about what I want.
1433
01:11:22,904 --> 01:11:24,406
Jim?
1434
01:11:47,095 --> 01:11:50,807
Oh, God. How can I fix this?
1435
01:11:53,977 --> 01:11:55,812
God?
1436
01:11:58,106 --> 01:11:59,399
Where'd you go?
1437
01:12:00,567 --> 01:12:02,027
Where are you?
1438
01:12:03,278 --> 01:12:05,155
Why can't I feel you?
1439
01:12:08,033 --> 01:12:09,409
Where are you?
1440
01:12:17,042 --> 01:12:18,543
Where are you?
1441
01:12:18,710 --> 01:12:20,712
Tammy? Tammy, it's all right.
1442
01:12:20,879 --> 01:12:23,923
-Jim.
-I'm here. I'm here.
1443
01:12:24,174 --> 01:12:26,926
It's all right. Shh. It's all right.
1444
01:12:31,890 --> 01:12:32,891
Um...
1445
01:12:33,850 --> 01:12:35,894
-Tammy, I, um...
-
1446
01:12:37,062 --> 01:12:40,565
I prayed on it. And, um...
1447
01:12:41,649 --> 01:12:42,650
What?
1448
01:12:43,109 --> 01:12:45,862
You know,
maybe I've been a better builder
1449
01:12:45,945 --> 01:12:47,697
than I've been a husband.
1450
01:12:50,533 --> 01:12:52,327
-Yeah.
-Yes.
1451
01:12:52,494 --> 01:12:54,954
But I know for certain
1452
01:12:55,705 --> 01:12:59,084
that you are
the only woman on Earth
1453
01:13:02,295 --> 01:13:05,006
-Oh, honey.
1454
01:13:05,715 --> 01:13:07,801
It makes me so happy
that you're saying that.
1455
01:13:08,009 --> 01:13:10,804
Tammy.
-Baby.
1456
01:13:11,137 --> 01:13:13,723
-I'm sorry.
1457
01:13:14,724 --> 01:13:18,394
-Oh...
1458
01:13:19,729 --> 01:13:21,648
You really hurt me.
1459
01:13:22,315 --> 01:13:23,817
I know, Jim.
1460
01:13:25,443 --> 01:13:27,278
And I think you have to apologize.
1461
01:13:27,737 --> 01:13:31,032
I'm sorry. Oh, I am so sorry, Jim.
1462
01:13:31,616 --> 01:13:33,034
To the partners.
1463
01:13:34,202 --> 01:13:37,163
-Mm?
-On air.
1464
01:13:39,165 --> 01:13:40,208
Today.
1465
01:13:43,336 --> 01:13:44,379
Oh.
1466
01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:50,802
I learned the best
lesson in my whole life
1467
01:13:50,969 --> 01:13:54,097
because of something terrible that I did
1468
01:13:54,264 --> 01:13:56,015
that I cannot take back.
1469
01:13:57,475 --> 01:14:00,186
I learned how much I love my husband,
1470
01:14:00,353 --> 01:14:02,897
how much I care for my husband.
1471
01:14:04,065 --> 01:14:06,151
And I learned a lesson of loneliness
1472
01:14:06,317 --> 01:14:08,653
such as I never experienced
in my whole life.
1473
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,076
All of a sudden, I realized
1474
01:14:15,285 --> 01:14:18,288
that there was a lot more to marriage
1475
01:14:20,957 --> 01:14:22,458
-
1476
01:14:22,542 --> 01:14:24,627
-WOMAN: We're with you, Tammy!
-
1477
01:14:25,128 --> 01:14:27,088
WOMAN 2: PTL.
MAN: PTL.
1478
01:14:27,255 --> 01:14:30,216
-How can I help you?
-WOMAN 3: Ah. Bless you.
1479
01:14:35,722 --> 01:14:38,933
JIM: Because of our satellite,
from this moment on,
1480
01:14:39,100 --> 01:14:44,272
the PTL Television Network
plans to broadcast 24 hours a day
1481
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,774
till the second coming of Christ.
1482
01:14:46,941 --> 01:14:50,570
Jesus keeps on
takin' me higher and higher
1483
01:14:50,737 --> 01:14:53,740
SINGERS: Higher and higher
Higher and higher
1484
01:14:54,282 --> 01:14:57,869
Jesus keeps on takin' me
higher and higher
1485
01:14:58,036 --> 01:15:01,623
SINGERS: Higher and higher
Higher and higher
1486
01:15:01,998 --> 01:15:03,333
-Hi, everybody!
-
1487
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,794
God has a fixed law of giving.
1488
01:15:06,961 --> 01:15:08,296
He gives me a shove
Yeah
1489
01:15:08,379 --> 01:15:09,464
JIM: If you're not giving,
1490
01:15:09,631 --> 01:15:13,468
you cannot expect to have
abundancy coming back to you.
1491
01:15:13,551 --> 01:15:15,220
-If you aren't giving,
1492
01:15:15,303 --> 01:15:17,513
you're gonna have a harvest of misery!
1493
01:15:17,597 --> 01:15:19,015
-You're gonna have
1494
01:15:19,098 --> 01:15:20,308
-a harvest of pain!
-PTL.
1495
01:15:20,391 --> 01:15:23,102
You're gonna have a harvest of sickness!
1496
01:15:23,269 --> 01:15:24,395
If you can't go to Jerusalem,
1497
01:15:24,562 --> 01:15:26,898
you could come to Heritage
and you could go to the Upper Room.
1498
01:15:27,065 --> 01:15:29,442
Exactly what you could see in Jerusalem.
1499
01:15:29,609 --> 01:15:31,402
Except you don't have to get on a plane.
1500
01:15:31,569 --> 01:15:33,029
You know, if everyone watching
1501
01:15:33,112 --> 01:15:35,448
could double their pledge
just for one month...
1502
01:15:35,615 --> 01:15:38,409
If you haven't sent your pledge
for $15 a month,
1503
01:15:38,576 --> 01:15:42,372
do it now and I want to send you
Susie Moppet puppets.
1504
01:15:42,538 --> 01:15:45,583
God becomes your source when you give
1505
01:15:46,125 --> 01:15:48,753
and you sow in his kingdom.
1506
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:50,004
It works.
1507
01:15:50,171 --> 01:15:52,382
SINGERS: Higher, higher, higher
1508
01:15:53,383 --> 01:15:54,384
Whoo
1509
01:15:55,343 --> 01:15:56,970
Wow
1510
01:15:57,303 --> 01:15:58,304
Whoo
1511
01:15:58,429 --> 01:16:01,933
The PTL TV network is
carrying out a master plan...
1512
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:03,726
opening centers all across the country
1513
01:16:03,893 --> 01:16:06,521
to provide food, clothing, furniture,
and job bank centers.
1514
01:16:06,604 --> 01:16:09,649
TAMMY: Jesus keeps on
leadin' me higher and higher
1515
01:16:14,529 --> 01:16:17,532
SINGERS: Higher, higher
Higher, higher
1516
01:16:17,699 --> 01:16:18,741
-Hi, everybody.
-
1517
01:16:18,992 --> 01:16:21,953
SINGERS: Higher, higher
Higher, higher
1518
01:16:22,662 --> 01:16:25,206
Higher, higher
Whoo
1519
01:16:25,373 --> 01:16:28,251
Higher, higher, higher
Whoo
1520
01:16:28,334 --> 01:16:30,753
Jesus keeps on
leadin' me higher and higher
1521
01:16:30,837 --> 01:16:31,838
JIM: I've seen the rich
1522
01:16:32,130 --> 01:16:34,090
and I've seen people with little
1523
01:16:34,257 --> 01:16:36,175
who are more blessed
1524
01:16:36,342 --> 01:16:39,470
than the millionaires that I've known
who are worried sick
1525
01:16:39,595 --> 01:16:41,389
'cause the stock market
doesn't know what it's doing!
1526
01:16:41,472 --> 01:16:42,890
It's going up, it's going down!
1527
01:16:43,057 --> 01:16:45,768
But people who have sown seed
in the word of God,
1528
01:16:45,935 --> 01:16:47,895
their stock is always up!
1529
01:16:48,062 --> 01:16:50,815
Higher and higher
1530
01:16:50,898 --> 01:16:52,483
-
1531
01:16:57,113 --> 01:16:58,656
JIM: That's why we chose this plot.
1532
01:16:58,823 --> 01:16:59,991
And with the help of your investment,
1533
01:17:00,074 --> 01:17:02,618
we could build a shopping complex
around the hotel
1534
01:17:02,785 --> 01:17:04,871
and then we're going to have a trolley.
1535
01:17:04,954 --> 01:17:05,955
JERRY: Mm.
1536
01:17:06,039 --> 01:17:08,333
It's gonna wrap around the whole place,
1537
01:17:08,499 --> 01:17:12,211
making stops at everywhere there
at Heritage Island, the Heritage Grand,
1538
01:17:12,295 --> 01:17:17,550
and then here
at what is going to be our coliseum.
1539
01:17:17,717 --> 01:17:18,926
We're gonna have a coliseum.
1540
01:17:19,010 --> 01:17:20,720
-JERRY: Coliseum.
- Yes.
1541
01:17:20,803 --> 01:17:23,348
You planning on sacrificing Christians?
1542
01:17:24,140 --> 01:17:26,851
Oh, no. No.
1543
01:17:27,143 --> 01:17:30,813
Oh, Jerry, no.
We rise again in our coliseum.
1544
01:17:30,980 --> 01:17:33,566
This is, uh, gonna be
Christian rock concerts.
1545
01:17:33,733 --> 01:17:35,318
Something for the kids.
1546
01:17:35,485 --> 01:17:39,280
I really wish you wouldn't
encourage these blasphemers.
1547
01:17:42,450 --> 01:17:45,286
-Isn't it beautiful?
-It really is. Mm-hmm.
1548
01:17:46,037 --> 01:17:48,206
The trees, the oxygen is...
1549
01:17:48,373 --> 01:17:50,291
Are you cold?
1550
01:17:50,458 --> 01:17:52,377
Are you...
1551
01:17:52,543 --> 01:17:55,046
Of course you're not cold.
1552
01:17:55,129 --> 01:17:57,882
-Sorry.
- Oh, I'm super.
1553
01:18:03,805 --> 01:18:04,931
JIM: So, what do you think, Reverend?
1554
01:18:05,014 --> 01:18:07,767
We would be tickled pink
to have your support.
1555
01:18:07,934 --> 01:18:09,060
-Yes?
1556
01:18:09,143 --> 01:18:11,312
JERRY: The coalition
that we delivered to Reagan,
1557
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,481
Vice President Bush...
1558
01:18:13,648 --> 01:18:16,609
well, he's counting on us
doing the same thing for him in '88.
1559
01:18:17,235 --> 01:18:18,236
Um...
1560
01:18:19,612 --> 01:18:22,240
You know that Pat called me
1561
01:18:22,407 --> 01:18:26,035
and he told me that he's thinking
about making a bid for President.
1562
01:18:26,202 --> 01:18:28,287
Pat Robertson's a good man.
1563
01:18:28,454 --> 01:18:30,957
But if he runs,
he'll peel away vital Republican votes.
1564
01:18:32,291 --> 01:18:33,918
We're in a fight here, Jim.
1565
01:18:34,585 --> 01:18:38,798
This gay cancer is affecting our country,
our families.
1566
01:18:39,173 --> 01:18:41,300
Republicans can't win without us.
1567
01:18:42,844 --> 01:18:45,012
You need to understand
how powerful we are
1568
01:18:45,096 --> 01:18:47,557
in this fight for our nation's soul.
1569
01:18:48,015 --> 01:18:49,308
JIM: Mm.
1570
01:18:49,642 --> 01:18:52,437
We should just stay out of it
and keep politics out of the church.
1571
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:53,688
Too much on the line.
1572
01:18:55,565 --> 01:19:00,736
Democrats are already trying to strip away
our churches' tax exempt status.
1573
01:19:02,905 --> 01:19:06,617
Oh, this time, we'll keep
the evangelicals in the tent.
1574
01:19:08,494 --> 01:19:09,912
When's lunch?
1575
01:19:10,079 --> 01:19:11,247
TAMMY: Well, hello, everyone,
1576
01:19:11,330 --> 01:19:13,124
it's just so nice
to have you here with us.
1577
01:19:13,291 --> 01:19:17,170
We have an experience today
that really is touching to me.
1578
01:19:17,253 --> 01:19:19,672
Right here on my right,
I have a young man named Steve Pieters,
1579
01:19:19,755 --> 01:19:21,799
and I'd like to introduce you to Steve.
1580
01:19:21,966 --> 01:19:24,594
Steve is a patient of AIDS
1581
01:19:24,677 --> 01:19:28,222
and he's so generously allowed us
to talk to him today.
1582
01:19:28,431 --> 01:19:31,434
He is presently taking chemotherapy
and is unable to travel.
1583
01:19:31,517 --> 01:19:35,480
So, we have a satellite hookup
live from LA.
1584
01:19:35,646 --> 01:19:38,316
-Hi, Tammy.
1585
01:19:38,399 --> 01:19:40,359
We're so glad to see you.
1586
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:42,737
I'm so happy I could be here.
1587
01:19:42,904 --> 01:19:45,281
Okay, Steve.
At what time in your life
1588
01:19:45,364 --> 01:19:47,867
did you feel like you were different?
1589
01:19:47,950 --> 01:19:51,120
Did you feel like maybe you weren't
like some of the other guys?
1590
01:19:51,287 --> 01:19:54,749
I realized I was gay
when I was about 11 or 12.
1591
01:19:55,791 --> 01:19:59,170
I talked with a pastor in the church
where I grew up
1592
01:19:59,253 --> 01:20:01,506
and, um, he was freaked out.
1593
01:20:01,589 --> 01:20:02,632
Mm.
1594
01:20:02,715 --> 01:20:06,385
He told me, "Don't tell anybody."
1595
01:20:06,552 --> 01:20:09,972
Never tell anybody anything about it
1596
01:20:10,139 --> 01:20:11,182
and it will go away,
1597
01:20:12,225 --> 01:20:14,810
but it didn't go away.
1598
01:20:14,894 --> 01:20:15,937
Okay, I have another question.
1599
01:20:16,020 --> 01:20:17,688
JERRY: So, the satellite
is directly above us?
1600
01:20:17,772 --> 01:20:19,649
JIM: Yes, it orbits us.
1601
01:20:19,815 --> 01:20:23,402
That's how we're able to reach
so many folks just simultaneously.
1602
01:20:23,569 --> 01:20:25,363
Let me ask you, Jerry,
what's your viewership
1603
01:20:25,446 --> 01:20:26,948
over at Liberty Broadcasting?
1604
01:20:27,114 --> 01:20:31,035
Oh, well, I'm proud to say
that we reach three million viewers a day.
1605
01:20:31,118 --> 01:20:35,331
My goodness. Praise God.
That's just wonderful.
1606
01:20:36,707 --> 01:20:38,000
And you?
1607
01:20:38,167 --> 01:20:41,504
Well, we here at PTL,
we reach 20 million viewers a day
1608
01:20:42,129 --> 01:20:46,050
in 56 countries
just because of that miracle
1609
01:20:46,133 --> 01:20:48,010
-up there in the sky.
-
1610
01:20:48,094 --> 01:20:50,221
Oh, let's see who Tammy's talking to.
1611
01:20:50,304 --> 01:20:51,430
TAMMY: And, Steve,
because of this feeling,
1612
01:20:51,514 --> 01:20:52,640
did you try to make friends with girls?
1613
01:20:52,723 --> 01:20:55,309
And did you try to be
around girls and everything
1614
01:20:55,476 --> 01:20:56,644
so no one would think anything?
1615
01:20:56,811 --> 01:20:58,646
Oh, sure, I dated girls.
1616
01:20:58,813 --> 01:21:02,066
I tried to "program" myself to be straight
1617
01:21:02,692 --> 01:21:04,485
and it never worked.
1618
01:21:04,569 --> 01:21:06,070
TAMMY: So, what made you feel...
1619
01:21:06,153 --> 01:21:07,572
And what's this, Jim?
1620
01:21:07,655 --> 01:21:09,156
TAMMY: ...like there was
no way for you to be straight?
1621
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:10,741
I don't know.
1622
01:21:10,908 --> 01:21:13,035
-This is not...
-It was from meeting
1623
01:21:13,119 --> 01:21:16,706
other gay people who were happy
with the way they were
1624
01:21:16,872 --> 01:21:19,709
that made me realize
I could be happy with the way I am.
1625
01:21:19,875 --> 01:21:21,836
-Now, I find this problematic.
-
1626
01:21:21,919 --> 01:21:23,713
Yes. Well, you know Tammy,
1627
01:21:23,796 --> 01:21:25,923
she... she connects in her own way and...
1628
01:21:26,090 --> 01:21:28,426
Okay, Steve. What did you feel
1629
01:21:28,593 --> 01:21:32,305
when you first heard the word AIDS?
1630
01:21:32,471 --> 01:21:34,181
Was it just a word to you, Steve?
1631
01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:38,144
Well, yes. Why would it hurt me?
I was a good Christian pastor.
1632
01:21:38,311 --> 01:21:40,146
I... I can't look at this.
1633
01:21:40,229 --> 01:21:41,606
JIM: No.
1634
01:21:41,689 --> 01:21:43,691
She must have programmed it
last minute or...
1635
01:21:43,774 --> 01:21:44,859
You need to get her under control.
1636
01:21:44,942 --> 01:21:46,652
No, no. Let me help.
1637
01:21:47,528 --> 01:21:50,531
Believe you me,
I will be having words with her.
1638
01:21:50,615 --> 01:21:51,616
-She's been acting very...
-Jim.
1639
01:21:51,699 --> 01:21:52,700
Yes?
1640
01:21:52,783 --> 01:21:54,201
We have our differences.
1641
01:21:55,703 --> 01:21:58,205
People forget sometimes
a pastor needs a pastor.
1642
01:21:58,664 --> 01:22:00,041
As Jesus says in Mark 5...
1643
01:22:00,916 --> 01:22:02,335
Reach out.
1644
01:22:02,501 --> 01:22:03,586
Yes.
1645
01:22:05,254 --> 01:22:06,714
What happened
when you told your mom and dad
1646
01:22:06,797 --> 01:22:07,923
that you were feeling this way?
1647
01:22:08,007 --> 01:22:10,760
-Well, my mother cried.
-Uh-huh.
1648
01:22:10,926 --> 01:22:13,512
And my father held my hand
1649
01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:16,599
and told me that I was his son,
no matter what.
1650
01:22:16,974 --> 01:22:19,060
Ah, thank God.
1651
01:22:19,268 --> 01:22:22,480
You know,
thank God for a mom and dad
1652
01:22:22,563 --> 01:22:24,940
who will stand with a young person.
1653
01:22:25,107 --> 01:22:26,359
I think that's so important
1654
01:22:26,442 --> 01:22:29,362
because no matter what happens
to a young person in their lives,
1655
01:22:29,445 --> 01:22:32,156
they're still your boy,
they're still your girl
1656
01:22:32,323 --> 01:22:33,449
no matter what happens in their life.
1657
01:22:33,532 --> 01:22:35,076
And I think it's very important
1658
01:22:35,242 --> 01:22:38,454
that we as mom and dads
love through anything.
1659
01:22:38,621 --> 01:22:40,539
And that's the way with Jesus, you know?
1660
01:22:40,706 --> 01:22:42,833
Jesus loves us through anything.
1661
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:44,960
Jesus loves me just the way I am.
1662
01:22:45,127 --> 01:22:47,797
Jesus loves the way that I love.
1663
01:22:48,589 --> 01:22:50,758
And have you found it to be true
1664
01:22:50,925 --> 01:22:52,343
that people wanna stay away
1665
01:22:52,510 --> 01:22:55,471
and that they're afraid to be
in the same room as you
1666
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:57,640
and breathe the same air that you breathe?
1667
01:22:58,516 --> 01:22:59,517
Yes, Tammy.
1668
01:23:00,393 --> 01:23:02,728
And how sad is that?
1669
01:23:03,270 --> 01:23:05,189
That we as Christians
1670
01:23:05,648 --> 01:23:08,567
who are supposed to love everyone
1671
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,822
are afraid so badly of an AIDS patient
1672
01:23:13,698 --> 01:23:15,658
that we will not go up to them
1673
01:23:15,825 --> 01:23:17,910
and put our arm around them
1674
01:23:18,077 --> 01:23:20,621
and tell them that we care?
1675
01:23:26,919 --> 01:23:28,921
This is an emotional interview for me.
1676
01:23:29,004 --> 01:23:30,047
I just met Steve
1677
01:23:30,131 --> 01:23:32,675
and it's like meeting him in person
for the first time.
1678
01:23:32,842 --> 01:23:34,260
I wanna put my arm around you.
1679
01:23:34,427 --> 01:23:36,262
And I wanna put my arms around you,
Tammy Faye.
1680
01:23:39,056 --> 01:23:41,475
-
1681
01:23:42,059 --> 01:23:43,853
WOMAN: PTL.
MAN: PTL.
1682
01:23:45,354 --> 01:23:46,689
WOMAN: That's very good. Yes.
1683
01:23:48,649 --> 01:23:50,192
Every time she calls, she screams,
1684
01:23:50,276 --> 01:23:51,694
"Jim and his buddy had sex on me."
1685
01:23:51,777 --> 01:23:53,154
-FLETCHER: Okay. Shh.
-"Now, I'm gonna kill myself.
1686
01:23:53,237 --> 01:23:55,573
"Jim Bakker'll have my
gosh darn blood on his hands."
1687
01:23:55,656 --> 01:23:56,657
FLETCHER: Now...
1688
01:23:56,741 --> 01:23:57,867
WOMAN 2: Never heard
so many curse words.
1689
01:23:57,950 --> 01:23:58,993
Not even from my brother Pete.
1690
01:23:59,076 --> 01:24:00,077
FLETCHER: Right.
1691
01:24:00,161 --> 01:24:01,704
-Did a caller upset you, dear?
-FLETCHER: Tammy...
1692
01:24:01,787 --> 01:24:02,788
Yes.
1693
01:24:02,872 --> 01:24:04,999
Oh, I'm so sorry.
You know, when we do shows like this,
1694
01:24:05,082 --> 01:24:08,169
really, we're challenging Christians
to open their hearts.
1695
01:24:08,335 --> 01:24:10,629
-And some don't take it that well.
-Tammy, I will handle this.
1696
01:24:10,713 --> 01:24:12,131
Oh, no, I have this, Richard.
1697
01:24:12,214 --> 01:24:14,633
It wasn't about the AIDS man.
It was about Jim.
1698
01:24:15,176 --> 01:24:17,678
She's called before.
We all call her "The Shrieker."
1699
01:24:17,803 --> 01:24:19,930
She says Jim and his buddy
had sex on her.
1700
01:24:20,014 --> 01:24:21,557
Tammy, you're needed on stage four.
1701
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,268
Gosh, we've been having
these pranks for a long time.
1702
01:24:24,351 --> 01:24:26,645
And some people,
they're just hurting so bad
1703
01:24:26,812 --> 01:24:29,148
and we just need to love them.
1704
01:24:29,315 --> 01:24:31,984
Anyway, Jim doesn't have that in him.
Believe me.
1705
01:24:33,277 --> 01:24:35,446
I know him better than anyone.
1706
01:24:58,344 --> 01:24:59,887
Join the PTL Club,
1707
01:24:59,970 --> 01:25:02,264
and Tammy wants to send you
a copy of her book...
1708
01:25:02,807 --> 01:25:06,060
about how to overcome fear.
1709
01:25:06,685 --> 01:25:09,396
If you haven't
sent in your pledge...
1710
01:25:09,939 --> 01:25:12,149
$15, that is all, $15 a month,
1711
01:25:12,233 --> 01:25:14,026
it'll change your life
1712
01:25:15,069 --> 01:25:17,071
and, uh, we could all use
a little bit of that.
1713
01:25:17,530 --> 01:25:19,949
So, Tammy, I think you oughta
sing a song for us.
1714
01:25:20,115 --> 01:25:22,701
Oh, I'm back here
looking at the boat, Jim.
1715
01:25:22,868 --> 01:25:24,078
Isn't this a magnificent thing?
1716
01:25:24,161 --> 01:25:25,162
JIM: Yes.
1717
01:25:25,496 --> 01:25:26,580
Right here in our beach.
1718
01:25:26,747 --> 01:25:28,374
JIM: Looks brand new, I bet.
1719
01:25:29,250 --> 01:25:30,251
One of the local boat companies
1720
01:25:30,334 --> 01:25:31,961
-loaned it to us, I bet.
-I'm gonna take my shoes off.
1721
01:25:32,044 --> 01:25:33,963
I'm gonna wade in the water.
1722
01:25:35,047 --> 01:25:37,716
JIM: I don't think
that boat's ever seen water.
1723
01:25:38,300 --> 01:25:40,177
Oh, it's fake. That's...
1724
01:25:41,387 --> 01:25:42,596
That's why.
1725
01:25:44,723 --> 01:25:46,433
"That's why" what, Tam?
1726
01:25:48,686 --> 01:25:50,312
TAMMY: That's why I can't hear Him.
1727
01:25:50,396 --> 01:25:51,438
JIM: Oh.
1728
01:25:52,773 --> 01:25:55,109
How can I hear Him when the sky is fake?
1729
01:25:56,235 --> 01:25:57,653
JIM: You want to stand up, honey?
1730
01:25:57,736 --> 01:25:59,238
We're trying to do a TV show here, baby.
1731
01:25:59,321 --> 01:26:00,531
You wanna come give me some help?
1732
01:26:01,699 --> 01:26:03,117
No? Well...
1733
01:26:06,871 --> 01:26:09,790
I guess it's a good time
as any to work on the tan.
1734
01:26:12,459 --> 01:26:15,421
Well, if Tammy's not going to sing,
I guess I am.
1735
01:26:15,504 --> 01:26:16,505
Oh, we're blest
1736
01:26:16,589 --> 01:26:17,756
We're blest, we're blest
1737
01:26:20,509 --> 01:26:21,927
JIM: We just got her home.
1738
01:26:22,303 --> 01:26:24,221
She's doing okay, she's fine.
1739
01:26:24,388 --> 01:26:28,434
No, yeah. We'll be taking her
to the Betty Ford Center in the morning.
1740
01:26:28,601 --> 01:26:32,438
She just needs to rest.
No shows for a while.
1741
01:26:32,938 --> 01:26:35,357
What's happening
with the other thing?
1742
01:26:37,067 --> 01:26:40,529
Can I just say
I love you so much?
1743
01:26:40,863 --> 01:26:42,781
-I love you.
1744
01:26:42,948 --> 01:26:46,994
My friends are gonna be so excited
when I tell them that I met you.
1745
01:26:54,001 --> 01:26:55,085
RACHEL: Tammy?
1746
01:26:55,669 --> 01:26:58,422
You had enough drugs in your system
to kill a truck driver.
1747
01:26:59,465 --> 01:27:00,466
I did?
1748
01:27:00,633 --> 01:27:02,468
The doctor told us
if you'd waited a day longer,
1749
01:27:02,635 --> 01:27:04,345
you would have had brain damage.
1750
01:27:04,553 --> 01:27:06,263
You could have died.
1751
01:27:06,972 --> 01:27:08,766
You can't take all those pills, honey.
1752
01:27:08,849 --> 01:27:09,850
They're addictive.
1753
01:27:09,934 --> 01:27:11,936
I didn't know that. I'll stop.
1754
01:27:12,102 --> 01:27:14,146
The doctors didn't tell me that.
1755
01:27:14,313 --> 01:27:16,315
I'm not a drug addict.
1756
01:27:17,483 --> 01:27:19,318
I'm only addicted to Diet Coke.
1757
01:27:20,361 --> 01:27:22,696
You have to stay right here.
1758
01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:25,658
God doesn't want you yet.
1759
01:27:26,700 --> 01:27:28,619
I have always prayed to Him
1760
01:27:28,786 --> 01:27:32,331
that He would allow you to save the souls
that I wasn't able to.
1761
01:27:33,749 --> 01:27:35,376
And He has.
1762
01:27:36,126 --> 01:27:37,127
You do.
1763
01:27:38,420 --> 01:27:41,799
So, you have to stay right here.
1764
01:27:43,634 --> 01:27:44,760
Okay?
1765
01:27:45,844 --> 01:27:47,554
Okay, Mom.
1766
01:28:24,258 --> 01:28:25,259
JIM: Tammy.
1767
01:28:25,926 --> 01:28:28,053
Oh. Hi, Jim.
1768
01:28:30,639 --> 01:28:33,475
The Devil's coming for me, Tammy.
1769
01:28:34,351 --> 01:28:37,271
Can we talk about Satan later?
1770
01:28:37,438 --> 01:28:39,314
You know,
I'm trying to feel like myself again.
1771
01:28:39,481 --> 01:28:41,150
JIM: There was a woman...
1772
01:28:44,737 --> 01:28:46,238
Fletcher set it up
1773
01:28:46,947 --> 01:28:51,994
after you did what you did with Gary.
1774
01:28:52,703 --> 01:28:56,415
I did it to prove something to myself,
I think. I... I don't know.
1775
01:28:57,416 --> 01:28:59,043
I hated it.
1776
01:29:01,879 --> 01:29:05,049
I ended up just crying
in the bathroom.
1777
01:29:11,847 --> 01:29:13,140
I fell...
1778
01:29:14,850 --> 01:29:16,477
a long way.
1779
01:29:18,228 --> 01:29:19,396
I'm so sorry.
1780
01:29:24,318 --> 01:29:26,278
Say something.
1781
01:29:29,823 --> 01:29:31,742
I've been hurting so bad, Jim.
1782
01:29:32,659 --> 01:29:34,119
For years.
1783
01:29:36,455 --> 01:29:39,249
And there's never any release
to the pain.
1784
01:29:40,751 --> 01:29:43,420
There's never anything
to make it stop hurting.
1785
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,174
And when I get up in the morning,
1786
01:29:48,133 --> 01:29:50,135
I feel like I'm just gonna throw up...
1787
01:29:51,386 --> 01:29:54,139
and throw up, and throw up.
1788
01:29:56,058 --> 01:29:59,728
And I have to self-talk myself,
"You can make it, Tammy.
1789
01:29:59,895 --> 01:30:01,688
"You can make it.
1790
01:30:01,772 --> 01:30:03,982
"Don't give up."
1791
01:30:08,570 --> 01:30:10,948
Damn it, Jim!
1792
01:30:12,991 --> 01:30:17,955
I'm so sick from my faith in you!
1793
01:30:20,874 --> 01:30:23,377
Well, I'm sick of you, too.
1794
01:30:25,921 --> 01:30:29,675
You try being married to Tammy Faye.
1795
01:30:29,842 --> 01:30:33,887
All I've been doing is trying
to keep our marriage together,
1796
01:30:34,054 --> 01:30:37,266
keep the ministry together,
working night and day
1797
01:30:37,432 --> 01:30:40,435
while you're just buying minks
1798
01:30:40,602 --> 01:30:42,855
and drinking soda pop
1799
01:30:43,021 --> 01:30:47,151
and cheating on me with that ape!
1800
01:30:51,321 --> 01:30:53,574
You used to take care of me, Tammy.
1801
01:30:54,074 --> 01:30:55,576
You stopped taking care of me.
1802
01:30:55,742 --> 01:30:58,120
I don't wanna take care of you, Jim.
1803
01:30:58,287 --> 01:31:00,205
I don't wanna be your mother.
1804
01:31:00,706 --> 01:31:03,375
A woman needs a man in a relationship!
1805
01:31:03,584 --> 01:31:05,752
-I am a man!
-You're a boy.
1806
01:31:05,919 --> 01:31:07,504
I built all of this.
I built you an empire.
1807
01:31:07,671 --> 01:31:09,631
You built you an empire.
1808
01:31:09,798 --> 01:31:12,551
No man could ever give you enough.
1809
01:31:12,718 --> 01:31:15,012
You're a bottomless pit.
1810
01:31:15,637 --> 01:31:17,973
And you keep on asking me for more
1811
01:31:18,140 --> 01:31:23,228
with that whiny, grating Betty Boop voice!
1812
01:31:39,328 --> 01:31:40,954
I thought you liked Betty Boop.
1813
01:31:44,458 --> 01:31:45,751
I'm sorry.
1814
01:31:46,710 --> 01:31:48,921
I'm so sorry, Tammy.
1815
01:31:49,087 --> 01:31:50,422
Me, too, Jim.
1816
01:31:51,298 --> 01:31:52,507
Um...
1817
01:31:55,093 --> 01:31:59,765
There's another thing.
The woman...
1818
01:32:00,474 --> 01:32:05,270
I gave her money to stay quiet,
but she didn't.
1819
01:32:05,604 --> 01:32:06,605
And, um...
1820
01:32:06,688 --> 01:32:08,941
And the money came from PTL donors.
1821
01:32:09,107 --> 01:32:10,108
Jim.
1822
01:32:10,192 --> 01:32:11,902
And Charles Shepard has the story
from The Observer.
1823
01:32:11,985 --> 01:32:13,070
And he's gonna print it tomorrow.
1824
01:32:13,153 --> 01:32:15,405
Oh, my God.
1825
01:32:19,409 --> 01:32:21,995
-JIM: I just... I know...
-Jim. Oh, my God.
1826
01:32:24,414 --> 01:32:26,124
I destroyed everything.
1827
01:32:27,751 --> 01:32:29,503
Our life's work, Jim.
1828
01:32:29,670 --> 01:32:30,837
I know.
1829
01:32:31,964 --> 01:32:33,382
Tammy.
1830
01:32:34,758 --> 01:32:37,636
Tam, my sweetheart,
1831
01:32:39,137 --> 01:32:41,473
if anyone falls, it's gonna be me.
1832
01:32:42,432 --> 01:32:45,727
You can let me be the man
that I was meant to be for you.
1833
01:32:46,979 --> 01:32:49,106
You don't know anything.
1834
01:32:52,359 --> 01:32:53,610
Oh, they're here.
1835
01:32:53,777 --> 01:32:54,820
Who's that?
1836
01:32:54,987 --> 01:32:56,530
It's all right.
1837
01:32:58,031 --> 01:32:59,992
These are the men
that are gonna help me fix this.
1838
01:33:00,534 --> 01:33:01,994
Oh, no, Jim.
1839
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,746
-No, no.
-Reverend. Thank you so much.
1840
01:33:04,830 --> 01:33:06,123
-Thank you so much for coming.
-JERRY: Jim.
1841
01:33:06,623 --> 01:33:09,001
Oh, it's love that carried me here today.
1842
01:33:09,209 --> 01:33:11,253
God bless you.
JERRY: Tammy Faye.
1843
01:33:11,753 --> 01:33:12,921
Jerry.
1844
01:33:13,088 --> 01:33:15,048
JIM: Come in, please.
Please come in. Welcome.
1845
01:33:15,132 --> 01:33:16,883
Thank you.
Thank you for coming, fellas.
1846
01:33:17,050 --> 01:33:18,218
All right.
1847
01:33:18,969 --> 01:33:20,637
Well, here we are.
1848
01:33:20,804 --> 01:33:23,932
JERRY: We think it's best
that we create a distance
1849
01:33:24,016 --> 01:33:26,018
between you and the ministry.
1850
01:33:26,184 --> 01:33:27,561
It'll only be for a couple of weeks.
1851
01:33:28,186 --> 01:33:31,023
Then, gradually,
we'll bring you back on the network
1852
01:33:31,732 --> 01:33:33,734
after all this unpleasantness
settles down.
1853
01:33:33,900 --> 01:33:37,070
Jerry, you're a Baptist.
You know, you're not a charismatic.
1854
01:33:37,237 --> 01:33:38,947
And our audience won't like that.
1855
01:33:39,114 --> 01:33:40,532
-Right, Jim?
-Audience?
1856
01:33:41,533 --> 01:33:43,118
I thought they were parishioners.
1857
01:33:43,285 --> 01:33:44,786
They are.
1858
01:33:44,953 --> 01:33:47,164
They're our partners.
We call them partners.
1859
01:33:47,247 --> 01:33:48,457
JERRY: Mm.
1860
01:33:48,540 --> 01:33:50,292
20 million souls a day
1861
01:33:50,417 --> 01:33:53,628
touched by The Word.
Thanks to PTL.
1862
01:33:53,795 --> 01:33:54,921
JIM AND TAMMY: Mm.
1863
01:33:55,047 --> 01:33:56,798
JERRY: You go back there
right away, and...
1864
01:33:58,300 --> 01:33:59,718
Well, bless your hearts.
1865
01:33:59,801 --> 01:34:02,637
Look at the two of you right now,
so very pitiful.
1866
01:34:03,764 --> 01:34:06,183
They see you,
and they'll change the channel.
1867
01:34:08,018 --> 01:34:09,019
Jim,
1868
01:34:09,561 --> 01:34:11,772
all those souls you won
1869
01:34:13,065 --> 01:34:14,983
for Jesus...
1870
01:34:16,610 --> 01:34:18,195
I'm here for you.
1871
01:34:18,820 --> 01:34:20,989
JIM: Thank you, Reverend.
JERRY: Mm.
1872
01:34:24,701 --> 01:34:27,079
Just make sure
you take care of our partners.
1873
01:34:28,497 --> 01:34:30,457
That is the only thing that matters now.
1874
01:34:40,842 --> 01:34:42,803
ANNOUNCER: You're watching PTL,
1875
01:34:42,886 --> 01:34:44,846
The Inspirational Network.
1876
01:34:47,766 --> 01:34:49,726
Tammy and I are so very glad
1877
01:34:49,893 --> 01:34:54,398
that we've been granted the opportunity
to talk with you today,
1878
01:34:54,564 --> 01:34:55,982
and, um...
1879
01:34:56,149 --> 01:34:57,567
Say hello.
1880
01:34:57,734 --> 01:34:59,277
Hello, everybody.
1881
01:34:59,778 --> 01:35:01,029
And...
1882
01:35:01,780 --> 01:35:03,949
we want to say to you
1883
01:35:04,116 --> 01:35:09,121
that we are so very, very sorry.
1884
01:35:09,287 --> 01:35:12,499
And to thank the people
who are standing with us all over,
1885
01:35:12,666 --> 01:35:15,293
saying, "Jim, we do forgive you.
1886
01:35:15,460 --> 01:35:19,131
"We forgive Jim and Tammy
of all of their sins."
1887
01:35:19,297 --> 01:35:23,135
And we're so thankful
that God has forgiven us.
1888
01:35:23,301 --> 01:35:27,764
We don't know what the future holds,
but I believe, Tammy.
1889
01:35:27,931 --> 01:35:30,100
'Cause the God I know is still God.
1890
01:35:30,267 --> 01:35:33,061
I believe that the sun will shine again.
1891
01:35:33,228 --> 01:35:34,563
Oh, I do, too, Jim.
1892
01:35:34,729 --> 01:35:36,690
Do you wanna sing it?
Can you do it?
1893
01:35:36,857 --> 01:35:38,567
-I sure will.
-All right.
1894
01:35:38,733 --> 01:35:42,070
All right, Tammy Faye is
going to sing a song for us.
1895
01:35:43,989 --> 01:35:47,117
TAMMY: Well, maybe you're hurting,
and you need this song today, too.
1896
01:35:47,284 --> 01:35:50,704
So I'll sing it for both of us, okay?
1897
01:35:50,871 --> 01:35:55,292
The sun will shine again
1898
01:35:56,084 --> 01:36:02,299
Now, if you are facing a mountain so high
1899
01:36:02,466 --> 01:36:08,555
That just won't move away
1900
01:36:09,723 --> 01:36:13,268
JERRY: We've heard
about your sinful behavior.
1901
01:36:13,727 --> 01:36:18,023
If you tell us what we need to know
about Jim Bakker,
1902
01:36:19,024 --> 01:36:20,484
we can protect you.
1903
01:36:21,193 --> 01:36:24,654
Oh-ho, listen, my brother
1904
01:36:24,821 --> 01:36:27,699
We don't want them destitute.
1905
01:36:27,866 --> 01:36:29,868
They're children of God.
1906
01:36:30,535 --> 01:36:31,828
We want to make sure
1907
01:36:31,912 --> 01:36:35,582
we don't leave them stranded
in the desert.
1908
01:36:44,090 --> 01:36:46,384
Write it down, what you make,
1909
01:36:46,468 --> 01:36:48,762
what you need, every little thing.
1910
01:36:48,929 --> 01:36:54,142
While you're in your time of healing,
he wants you to be safe and provided for.
1911
01:36:54,309 --> 01:36:56,811
I told him how fragile you are.
1912
01:36:56,978 --> 01:37:00,357
He wants to help.
He told me so himself.
1913
01:37:02,192 --> 01:37:04,152
JIM: You wanna start us off, honey?
1914
01:37:06,988 --> 01:37:08,990
-What should I write, Jim?
-JIM: Start with everything.
1915
01:37:09,157 --> 01:37:10,784
Start with what you need for clothes.
1916
01:37:10,951 --> 01:37:12,410
What's your salary, Jim?
1917
01:37:12,577 --> 01:37:15,080
JIM: One second.
I'll try calling Jerry again.
1918
01:37:15,247 --> 01:37:18,458
He hasn't returned any of my calls.
1919
01:37:18,792 --> 01:37:22,003
The other side whose storm
1920
01:37:22,170 --> 01:37:25,590
Is going to end
1921
01:37:26,675 --> 01:37:30,136
Well, your midnight's almost over
1922
01:37:30,220 --> 01:37:32,597
-"Jim's salary for a lifetime
1923
01:37:32,681 --> 01:37:34,349
"at 300,000 per year.
1924
01:37:34,516 --> 01:37:38,311
"Tammy's salary for a lifetime
at 100,000 a year.
1925
01:37:38,478 --> 01:37:40,564
"Secretary for one year. Phone bill.
1926
01:37:40,730 --> 01:37:44,317
"House on the lake. Security.
Personal maid."
1927
01:37:47,028 --> 01:37:49,823
I don't see the repentance there.
1928
01:37:51,408 --> 01:37:55,120
I see the greed.
I see the self-centeredness.
1929
01:37:55,287 --> 01:37:59,207
I see the avarice that brought them down.
1930
01:37:59,749 --> 01:38:02,544
Jim, I have sat across the table
1931
01:38:02,711 --> 01:38:06,298
from men who have told me
about your homosexual advances.
1932
01:38:07,215 --> 01:38:11,970
And since then,
I have learned of fiscal irregularities.
1933
01:38:12,137 --> 01:38:14,014
It would be a disservice to God, Jim...
1934
01:38:14,097 --> 01:38:15,473
It's all over.
1935
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:18,727
...and to the church at large
if I allowed you to come back.
1936
01:38:18,893 --> 01:38:20,937
I've been had.
1937
01:38:21,104 --> 01:38:25,150
How could you have trusted
people like that?
1938
01:38:25,942 --> 01:38:29,863
You understand
that I can't allow you to stay here.
1939
01:38:30,989 --> 01:38:35,243
Your home, and everything in it,
belongs to the ministry.
1940
01:38:36,411 --> 01:38:38,955
Your midnight's almost over.
1941
01:38:39,122 --> 01:38:43,668
And thank God,
the sun is going to shine again.
1942
01:38:43,877 --> 01:38:45,962
Praise, praise in the name of the Lord.
1943
01:38:46,129 --> 01:38:48,590
The charges being made
against you right now
1944
01:38:48,757 --> 01:38:52,677
are, in effect, that you stole PTL blind.
1945
01:38:52,844 --> 01:38:55,639
While PTL was suffering
through months after months
1946
01:38:55,805 --> 01:38:58,224
of $2 million negative balances,
1947
01:38:58,391 --> 01:39:00,143
you were paying yourself bonuses,
1948
01:39:00,226 --> 01:39:01,895
-you were paying Tammy Faye bonuses.
-No.
1949
01:39:01,978 --> 01:39:04,898
I don't know if you ever have
a positive balance in a ministry, Jim.
1950
01:39:05,065 --> 01:39:06,983
I've never known anyone
to have a positive one.
1951
01:39:07,150 --> 01:39:09,903
We're... We're always playing catch-up.
1952
01:39:10,070 --> 01:39:11,321
NEWSCASTER 1:
Jim Bakker went on trial
1953
01:39:11,446 --> 01:39:13,031
on charges of fraud today.
1954
01:39:13,114 --> 01:39:14,449
The prosecution called Bakker,
1955
01:39:14,532 --> 01:39:15,533
"A man corrupted
by love of money and luxury."
1956
01:39:15,659 --> 01:39:16,743
The founder of
the now-bankrupt PTL ministry
1957
01:39:16,826 --> 01:39:17,827
swindled followers
1958
01:39:17,994 --> 01:39:20,330
out of millions of dollars
to support a lavish lifestyle.
1959
01:39:20,413 --> 01:39:21,581
NEWSCASTER 2: One couple showed up
1960
01:39:21,665 --> 01:39:22,666
in Jim and Tammy Faye masks.
1961
01:39:22,749 --> 01:39:24,084
NEWSCASTER 3:
...couple million dollars in PTL cash
1962
01:39:24,167 --> 01:39:25,168
for their personal use.
1963
01:39:25,627 --> 01:39:27,962
TED: How much money
did you earn last year?
1964
01:39:28,046 --> 01:39:32,300
Salary, bonuses, and dividends,
and royalties...
1965
01:39:32,384 --> 01:39:33,593
No idea? You're starting...
1966
01:39:33,677 --> 01:39:35,220
I don't have the exact figure.
1967
01:39:35,303 --> 01:39:37,138
-TED: Not exactly.
-I honestly, honest...
1968
01:39:37,305 --> 01:39:39,808
I do not know how much I make.
I never thought about it.
1969
01:39:39,974 --> 01:39:42,227
-I really don't.
1970
01:39:42,644 --> 01:39:44,104
NEWSCASTER:
To raise desperately needed cash,
1971
01:39:44,270 --> 01:39:46,856
PTL is auctioning off
opulent personal items
1972
01:39:47,023 --> 01:39:49,275
deposed Evangelists Jim and Tammy Bakker
1973
01:39:49,359 --> 01:39:50,568
bought with church donations.
1974
01:39:50,652 --> 01:39:52,570
They also brought new charges
of moral failure.
1975
01:39:52,654 --> 01:39:54,072
NEWSCASTER 2: ...having sex
with Reverend Jim Bakker.
1976
01:39:54,155 --> 01:39:55,156
NEWSCASTER 3: Jessica Hahn,
1977
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:58,785
Bakker personally directed
the payment of PTL hush money.
1978
01:39:58,952 --> 01:40:00,662
We grieve for the impact
all of this has had
1979
01:40:00,745 --> 01:40:02,539
upon the entire Christian community.
1980
01:40:02,956 --> 01:40:06,501
TED: As for the homosexual advances
going back to 1956,
1981
01:40:06,710 --> 01:40:08,878
-you're saying that's a lie.
-Yes. Yes.
1982
01:40:09,045 --> 01:40:11,923
Yes, that's... that's... that's true.
1983
01:40:12,006 --> 01:40:13,133
What are you saying?
1984
01:40:13,216 --> 01:40:14,217
That's... That's a lie.
1985
01:40:14,300 --> 01:40:16,803
Yes. Yes. And, you know,
1986
01:40:16,970 --> 01:40:18,763
people need to know
1987
01:40:18,930 --> 01:40:23,601
that God loves homosexuals.
1988
01:40:24,018 --> 01:40:25,562
Preachers have to be awfully pious.
1989
01:40:25,729 --> 01:40:28,273
And when they fall from grace,
they fall harder.
1990
01:40:28,440 --> 01:40:29,441
People laugh.
1991
01:40:29,524 --> 01:40:31,443
Tammy, we have a bit of goop
on our face.
1992
01:40:31,526 --> 01:40:32,902
-You've taken her makeup off.
1993
01:40:32,986 --> 01:40:34,738
-
1994
01:40:34,821 --> 01:40:36,740
I saw his wife.
I heard the accusations,
1995
01:40:36,823 --> 01:40:38,616
wife-swapping, homosexuality.
1996
01:40:38,783 --> 01:40:40,577
woman?
1997
01:40:40,744 --> 01:40:43,163
I'd swap her for a can of soup.
1998
01:40:43,329 --> 01:40:45,331
REPORTER: National news, special report.
1999
01:40:45,540 --> 01:40:48,877
Jim Bakker was found guilty
on all 24 counts of wire and...
2000
01:40:49,085 --> 01:40:51,171
-Guilty.
-Guilty.
2001
01:40:51,337 --> 01:40:54,841
He now faces up to a 120 years in prison
2002
01:40:54,924 --> 01:40:56,968
and $5 million in fines.
2003
01:40:57,135 --> 01:40:58,470
TAMMY: Ted, can I say something?
2004
01:40:58,636 --> 01:40:59,637
TED: Sure.
2005
01:40:59,721 --> 01:41:03,725
I just wanna say, remember,
God loves you.
2006
01:41:03,892 --> 01:41:07,187
I wanna say that, too.
God loves you.
2007
01:41:07,353 --> 01:41:10,064
-He really does. Bye-bye.
-He really, really does.
2008
01:41:10,231 --> 01:41:12,317
TED: All right. Thank you both
very much for being with us.
2009
01:41:12,484 --> 01:41:13,485
WOMAN: We're clear.
2010
01:41:37,634 --> 01:41:39,761
It's all right, honey. Don't cry.
2011
01:41:44,557 --> 01:41:45,975
No.
2012
01:41:46,142 --> 01:41:48,603
I didn't do anything. Please.
2013
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:52,774
TAMMY: I have a song for you.
2014
01:41:53,608 --> 01:41:55,360
On Christ
2015
01:41:55,527 --> 01:42:00,031
The solid rock I stand
2016
01:42:00,198 --> 01:42:06,746
All other ground is sinking sand
2017
01:42:06,913 --> 01:42:13,127
All other ground is sinking sand
2018
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:24,013
TAMMY: God...
2019
01:42:24,931 --> 01:42:28,351
I followed you ever since
I was a little girl.
2020
01:42:30,854 --> 01:42:32,647
I loved you.
2021
01:42:34,482 --> 01:42:36,317
I served you.
2022
01:42:39,070 --> 01:42:40,989
And I worked for you.
2023
01:42:44,158 --> 01:42:45,451
God...
2024
01:42:48,413 --> 01:42:50,331
where have you gone?
2025
01:42:51,958 --> 01:42:54,752
-It's not over till it's over.
-
2026
01:43:31,205 --> 01:43:33,082
Hey. Sorry I'm late.
2027
01:43:34,959 --> 01:43:35,960
-Hi.
-Hi.
2028
01:43:36,044 --> 01:43:38,254
-Nice to meet ya. I'm Tammy.
-Nice to meet you. Stephen.
2029
01:43:38,338 --> 01:43:39,881
All right. You need a water or anything?
2030
01:43:39,964 --> 01:43:41,424
-Oh, no, I'm good.
-Okay.
2031
01:43:41,591 --> 01:43:42,842
My new headshot.
2032
01:43:43,009 --> 01:43:45,595
Yeah, all right. Nice.
2033
01:43:46,304 --> 01:43:48,222
All right. So...
2034
01:43:48,723 --> 01:43:50,183
I hear you're here to pitch me something.
2035
01:43:50,266 --> 01:43:52,810
So I should... I'll... Yeah.
2036
01:43:53,728 --> 01:43:55,563
So, I have two ideas for you, Stephen.
2037
01:43:55,730 --> 01:43:58,733
And then I'd like to hear
what you see me doing.
2038
01:43:59,275 --> 01:44:00,276
Okay.
2039
01:44:00,652 --> 01:44:04,072
Okay. Um, the first one is about puppets.
2040
01:44:04,238 --> 01:44:06,449
I mean, it's serious, but it's also funny.
2041
01:44:06,616 --> 01:44:09,869
It's a talk show but with puppets.
2042
01:44:09,953 --> 01:44:11,663
And it's for kids and also for adults.
2043
01:44:11,829 --> 01:44:16,000
And it's a way for people
to talk about their problems,
2044
01:44:16,209 --> 01:44:17,669
but with puppets.
2045
01:44:19,587 --> 01:44:20,797
Okay.
2046
01:44:22,423 --> 01:44:24,509
Okay, I have something else
for you, Stephen.
2047
01:44:24,759 --> 01:44:27,136
-Oh, okay, another one.
-It's for teenagers.
2048
01:44:27,303 --> 01:44:29,931
You know, the biggest problem
that they say is,
2049
01:44:30,098 --> 01:44:33,017
"How can we get people to listen to us?"
2050
01:44:33,184 --> 01:44:35,353
And I would really love
to give them that chance
2051
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,021
and, you know, go where they go.
2052
01:44:37,188 --> 01:44:39,816
I'd love to go to the piercing parlors
with them,
2053
01:44:39,983 --> 01:44:42,652
I'd love to go to the tattoo places
with them, and...
2054
01:44:42,819 --> 01:44:44,153
And you would call this show, what?
2055
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,155
-"Tammy's Terrific Teens."
-Oh, yeah.
2056
01:44:46,322 --> 01:44:48,449
I thought that would be,
you know, a fun title.
2057
01:44:48,616 --> 01:44:50,159
I was just curious.
2058
01:44:50,827 --> 01:44:52,870
Well, what do you see me doing, Stephen?
2059
01:44:52,954 --> 01:44:54,956
I mean, you're the expert.
2060
01:44:55,748 --> 01:44:58,918
Well, have you reached out
to any Christian networks or anything?
2061
01:45:01,379 --> 01:45:03,214
Well, they won't have me.
2062
01:45:03,381 --> 01:45:07,301
Okay. Well, what I've learned
from doing these shows,
2063
01:45:07,468 --> 01:45:09,846
and I think you've learned as well, is,
2064
01:45:10,013 --> 01:45:11,055
you know, it is dangerous
2065
01:45:11,139 --> 01:45:13,725
to wanna be seen just
for the sake of it. You know?
2066
01:45:13,891 --> 01:45:16,102
Well, I do love the camera, but...
2067
01:45:16,185 --> 01:45:17,270
Why?
2068
01:45:17,770 --> 01:45:19,022
Well, because it's a person.
2069
01:45:19,188 --> 01:45:20,732
It's someone to talk to.
2070
01:45:20,898 --> 01:45:24,235
It's... It's God's love through me.
2071
01:45:27,196 --> 01:45:28,448
So what do you think, Stephen?
2072
01:45:28,531 --> 01:45:30,241
You know, would you like to do a show?
2073
01:45:31,534 --> 01:45:33,327
I don't know, Tammy.
2074
01:45:33,411 --> 01:45:36,289
I just don't think
it's a good fit for us right now.
2075
01:45:36,873 --> 01:45:37,874
Okay?
2076
01:45:39,876 --> 01:45:42,211
Well, well, I... I...
2077
01:45:43,296 --> 01:45:44,964
-I really appreciate...
-Thank you for coming in.
2078
01:45:45,131 --> 01:45:46,716
-Thank you.
-Thanks for coming through.
2079
01:45:46,883 --> 01:45:48,843
We'll take care
of your parking validation.
2080
01:45:49,010 --> 01:45:50,303
-Thank you.
-TAMMY: Okay.
2081
01:45:51,095 --> 01:45:52,555
You have a good one.
2082
01:45:55,933 --> 01:45:57,310
-Bye.
-Bye.
2083
01:45:58,519 --> 01:45:59,771
TAMMY: Oops.
2084
01:46:18,873 --> 01:46:20,166
BOY 1: Oh, man.
2085
01:46:21,209 --> 01:46:23,002
BOY 2: What'd she do to her face?
2086
01:46:25,922 --> 01:46:28,883
BOY 1: I told you she lived here.
What a freak.
2087
01:46:34,013 --> 01:46:35,848
-Oh, man.
-Hi.
2088
01:46:36,015 --> 01:46:37,558
BOY 2: Oh, shit.
She's comin' over here.
2089
01:46:37,725 --> 01:46:40,228
-You guys just hangin' out?
-BOY 2: Yeah.
2090
01:46:41,521 --> 01:46:45,608
So, you can talk about me.
That's all right.
2091
01:46:45,775 --> 01:46:47,401
But, you know,
you gotta shake my hand,
2092
01:46:47,485 --> 01:46:49,487
and you gotta say hi first.
2093
01:46:51,239 --> 01:46:52,615
-Hi.
-Hi, nice to meet ya.
2094
01:46:52,698 --> 01:46:53,950
I'm Tammy. What's your name?
2095
01:46:54,033 --> 01:46:55,660
-Um, Max.
-Hi.
2096
01:46:55,827 --> 01:46:57,078
But, you know, we're not strangers.
2097
01:46:57,161 --> 01:46:59,205
I live right there. We're neighbors.
2098
01:47:00,123 --> 01:47:02,166
Oh! Let me show you guys what I just got.
2099
01:47:03,042 --> 01:47:07,004
Who would like a picture?
2100
01:47:10,299 --> 01:47:12,093
Jolene, I cannot believe
that you have eaten
2101
01:47:12,176 --> 01:47:14,262
almost an entire jar of peanut butter.
2102
01:47:14,428 --> 01:47:15,555
JOLENE: Well, I'm sorry, Susanne.
2103
01:47:15,638 --> 01:47:17,431
I happen to be eating for two.
2104
01:47:17,598 --> 01:47:18,766
Don't beg.
2105
01:47:18,850 --> 01:47:20,059
-
2106
01:47:20,143 --> 01:47:21,561
Okay, you're being so good.
2107
01:47:21,727 --> 01:47:22,979
SUSANNE: I say, have at it.
2108
01:47:23,771 --> 01:47:25,106
JOLENE: You know, Susanne,
since you're having
2109
01:47:25,189 --> 01:47:26,566
so much trouble collecting
money for your benefit,
2110
01:47:26,649 --> 01:47:28,151
I might be able to help you out.
2111
01:47:28,234 --> 01:47:29,944
-SUSANNE: You, how?
-
2112
01:47:30,111 --> 01:47:31,571
TAMMY: God bless you.
You've reached Tammy.
2113
01:47:31,654 --> 01:47:32,905
Leave me a message.
2114
01:47:35,324 --> 01:47:37,535
Hello, Mrs. Bakker.
This is Linda Thomas
2115
01:47:37,618 --> 01:47:39,203
from Oral Roberts School of Divinity.
2116
01:47:39,370 --> 01:47:42,373
You probably don't remember
but I volunteered at PTL.
2117
01:47:42,540 --> 01:47:44,458
You were always so nice to me.
2118
01:47:44,667 --> 01:47:46,502
Anyway, I'm calling to invite you to sing
2119
01:47:46,669 --> 01:47:48,838
at this year's festival
of Praise and Redemption.
2120
01:47:49,005 --> 01:47:51,340
I think you'd be a wonderful
addition to our program.
2121
01:47:51,507 --> 01:47:53,509
We'll check back with you
to find out if you're interested.
2122
01:47:53,676 --> 01:47:55,052
Thanks very much.
2123
01:48:26,417 --> 01:48:28,044
-JIM: Hi.
- Hi.
2124
01:48:44,852 --> 01:48:46,979
Oh. I don't know.
2125
01:48:49,232 --> 01:48:51,817
I got an invitation
from Oral Roberts to sing.
2126
01:48:52,652 --> 01:48:54,070
-Wow.
-Yeah.
2127
01:48:54,237 --> 01:48:55,821
That's wonderful.
2128
01:48:56,739 --> 01:48:57,949
-I'm not gonna do it though.
-You should.
2129
01:48:58,032 --> 01:48:59,867
No, I haven't been in church for years.
2130
01:49:00,034 --> 01:49:01,035
Well, that's where you belong.
2131
01:49:01,118 --> 01:49:02,703
No, I don't belong with them.
2132
01:49:02,787 --> 01:49:04,413
They're gonna laugh.
2133
01:49:04,497 --> 01:49:05,498
I'm not gonna go.
2134
01:49:05,581 --> 01:49:07,541
It's my fault you feel that way.
2135
01:49:07,750 --> 01:49:09,126
I'm sorry for that.
2136
01:49:10,169 --> 01:49:11,337
All of it.
2137
01:49:13,965 --> 01:49:15,132
I pray for you, Jim.
2138
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:18,970
And I pray that God will use you again.
2139
01:49:20,471 --> 01:49:21,597
Yes.
2140
01:49:26,060 --> 01:49:28,312
I appreciate you signing
the divorce papers, Jim.
2141
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:29,939
I didn't want to, Tam.
2142
01:49:30,564 --> 01:49:31,649
I know.
2143
01:49:33,609 --> 01:49:36,112
But, you know, we've just been
through too much together
2144
01:49:36,279 --> 01:49:39,115
and, you know,
there's been too many hurts
2145
01:49:39,282 --> 01:49:41,617
that have happened over the years.
2146
01:49:42,451 --> 01:49:43,786
And that poor girl, Jim.
2147
01:49:43,953 --> 01:49:46,122
I know, I know. I know.
2148
01:49:46,706 --> 01:49:48,791
I'm ashamed of that.
2149
01:49:49,500 --> 01:49:52,920
I've been getting some real me
and God time in here
2150
01:49:53,087 --> 01:49:54,630
and everything looks very, very different
2151
01:49:54,714 --> 01:49:56,215
when you're looking at it
from the bottom up.
2152
01:49:56,674 --> 01:49:57,925
-Well, yeah.
-Yeah.
2153
01:49:58,092 --> 01:49:59,385
And I've just been thinking,
2154
01:50:00,344 --> 01:50:02,263
were we preaching
2155
01:50:02,972 --> 01:50:06,142
that God doesn't love you if you're poor?
2156
01:50:07,435 --> 01:50:09,270
Well, you know that I grew up poor.
2157
01:50:11,147 --> 01:50:13,733
It's not what you have in stuff,
2158
01:50:13,816 --> 01:50:16,110
it's the people that count.
2159
01:50:16,902 --> 01:50:18,696
-Amen.
-Amen.
2160
01:50:34,128 --> 01:50:35,463
RACHEL: Tammy.
2161
01:50:37,298 --> 01:50:38,382
Mom?
2162
01:50:43,304 --> 01:50:45,973
PASTOR: "We therefore
were buried with him
2163
01:50:46,057 --> 01:50:47,558
"through baptism into death.
2164
01:50:48,559 --> 01:50:49,560
"In order that,
2165
01:50:49,727 --> 01:50:51,854
"just as Christ was raised from the dead
2166
01:50:51,937 --> 01:50:53,689
"through the glory of the Father,
2167
01:50:54,523 --> 01:50:58,110
"we too may walk in newness of life."
2168
01:51:00,112 --> 01:51:02,198
MAN: Such a good service.
2169
01:51:02,365 --> 01:51:03,657
FRED: Hello, Tom. Thanks for comin'.
2170
01:51:06,035 --> 01:51:07,495
There you are.
2171
01:51:08,329 --> 01:51:10,373
Aren't you gonna come in,
have somethin' to eat?
2172
01:51:10,539 --> 01:51:13,501
I don't belong in there with them.
2173
01:51:13,667 --> 01:51:14,919
Yeah.
2174
01:51:16,212 --> 01:51:18,089
One good thing about your mum
kicking the bucket is
2175
01:51:18,255 --> 01:51:20,216
I never have to go to church again.
2176
01:51:22,385 --> 01:51:24,345
No, I shouldn't laugh at that.
2177
01:51:26,639 --> 01:51:29,058
-Oh, I did something terrible.
-Oh?
2178
01:51:32,603 --> 01:51:34,897
You're forgiven.
-
2179
01:51:35,689 --> 01:51:38,692
Ooh. Wow, she really was blind,
wasn't she?
2180
01:51:38,818 --> 01:51:40,403
Mm-hmm.
2181
01:51:41,987 --> 01:51:43,781
I got somethin' for ya.
2182
01:51:44,615 --> 01:51:46,617
You recognize this?
2183
01:51:49,412 --> 01:51:51,330
I thought Falwell took everything.
2184
01:51:51,497 --> 01:51:52,832
She hid this.
2185
01:51:52,998 --> 01:51:54,750
She stole it.
2186
01:51:54,917 --> 01:51:56,210
Well, she said she'd be damned
2187
01:51:56,377 --> 01:51:58,212
if she was gonna hand over
this precious thing
2188
01:51:58,379 --> 01:51:59,880
her daughter
worked so hard for
2189
01:52:00,047 --> 01:52:02,258
-to the fat Baptist.
-
2190
01:52:30,244 --> 01:52:32,413
We're opening the house now, Ms. Bakker.
2191
01:52:32,496 --> 01:52:34,540
People are taking their seats.
2192
01:52:39,587 --> 01:52:41,547
Well, hello there, Tammy.
2193
01:52:43,257 --> 01:52:44,508
Hi, there.
2194
01:52:47,386 --> 01:52:48,721
I'm scared.
2195
01:52:56,228 --> 01:53:00,733
Jesus, come in to my heart,
and forgive me my sins.
2196
01:53:02,109 --> 01:53:04,570
I know I cared about things
that I shouldn't have.
2197
01:53:06,363 --> 01:53:08,282
And I know I got lost...
2198
01:53:10,868 --> 01:53:14,246
and I forgot who you are to me...
2199
01:53:17,208 --> 01:53:18,834
but that's done now.
2200
01:53:20,711 --> 01:53:22,796
Yeah, I won't go forward
2201
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:26,175
looking in the rearview mirror of my life.
2202
01:53:27,593 --> 01:53:29,470
On stage in 10 minutes.
2203
01:53:47,571 --> 01:53:48,906
Thank you.
2204
01:53:50,241 --> 01:53:51,617
Here, this is for the piano player.
2205
01:53:51,784 --> 01:53:52,785
Okay.
2206
01:54:09,301 --> 01:54:10,469
ANNOUNCER:
Ladies and gentlemen...
2207
01:54:11,637 --> 01:54:15,474
...please welcome tonight's special guest,
2208
01:54:15,641 --> 01:54:17,226
Tammy Faye.
2209
01:54:17,309 --> 01:54:19,311
-
2210
01:54:25,609 --> 01:54:26,610
TAMMY: Aw.
2211
01:54:27,403 --> 01:54:30,447
Thank you. Thank you so much.
2212
01:54:33,576 --> 01:54:36,870
I am genuinely, I am so happy
2213
01:54:36,954 --> 01:54:39,373
to be back where I once belonged.
2214
01:54:43,961 --> 01:54:48,132
This morning when I was
in need of some comfort,
2215
01:54:48,299 --> 01:54:50,968
I turned to my favorite scripture,
2216
01:54:51,135 --> 01:54:52,761
Psalms 91.
2217
01:54:55,889 --> 01:54:58,475
"He that dwelleth in the secret place
2218
01:54:58,559 --> 01:55:00,060
"of the most high
2219
01:55:02,062 --> 01:55:06,275
"shall abide under the shadow
of the Almighty."
2220
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:19,038
"He shall cover thee with His feathers
2221
01:55:20,789 --> 01:55:22,541
"and under His wings
2222
01:55:23,709 --> 01:55:26,211
"shalt thou trust."
2223
01:55:29,757 --> 01:55:32,801
Well, I haven't had a concert
in almost a decade
2224
01:55:34,386 --> 01:55:36,513
and I am a little nervous.
2225
01:55:38,307 --> 01:55:39,683
But I'll do my best
2226
01:55:40,225 --> 01:55:43,854
to deliver Him to you folks tonight. Okay?
2227
01:55:51,945 --> 01:55:53,572
Mine eyes
2228
01:55:54,365 --> 01:55:56,742
Have seen the glory
2229
01:55:58,077 --> 01:56:01,997
Of the coming of the Lord
2230
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:06,669
He is trampling out the vintage
2231
01:56:07,586 --> 01:56:13,008
Where the grapes of wrath are stored
2232
01:56:13,884 --> 01:56:15,803
He hath loosed
2233
01:56:16,887 --> 01:56:18,972
The fateful lightning
2234
01:56:20,599 --> 01:56:25,020
Of His terrible, swift sword
2235
01:56:27,564 --> 01:56:34,530
His truth is marching on
2236
01:56:36,657 --> 01:56:43,622
Glory, glory, hallelujah
2237
01:56:43,831 --> 01:56:50,796
Glory, glory, hallelujah
2238
01:56:51,004 --> 01:56:57,386
Glory, glory, hallelujah
2239
01:56:57,553 --> 01:57:04,518
His truth is marching on
2240
01:57:04,685 --> 01:57:08,313
-I have read His fiery gospel
2241
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:11,692
Writ in burnished rows of steel
2242
01:57:11,859 --> 01:57:15,487
"As ye deal with my condemners
2243
01:57:15,696 --> 01:57:18,490
"So with you my grace shall deal"
2244
01:57:18,657 --> 01:57:22,369
Let the Hero, born of woman
2245
01:57:22,536 --> 01:57:25,748
Crush the serpent with his heel
2246
01:57:25,914 --> 01:57:32,713
Since God is marching on
2247
01:57:33,088 --> 01:57:35,758
Come on, everybody!
Feel his miracle!
2248
01:57:37,217 --> 01:57:44,016
Glory, glory, hallelujah
2249
01:57:44,183 --> 01:57:50,189
Glory, glory, hallelujah
2250
01:57:51,482 --> 01:57:57,529
Glory, glory, hallelujah
2251
01:57:57,738 --> 01:58:04,536
His truth is marching on
2252
01:58:04,953 --> 01:58:07,206
Oh, how thankful I am
2253
01:58:07,372 --> 01:58:09,958
for the amazing grace of God.
2254
01:58:10,542 --> 01:58:13,045
Because without that beautiful grace,
2255
01:58:13,212 --> 01:58:15,297
I wouldn't even be here today.
2256
01:58:16,089 --> 01:58:18,091
That grace that reached down and said,
2257
01:58:18,258 --> 01:58:21,929
"Tammy Faye, I love you.
2258
01:58:22,095 --> 01:58:25,015
"And I love you just the way you are."
2259
01:58:25,474 --> 01:58:29,144
You know God's grace is sufficient enough
for you today, too.
2260
01:58:29,311 --> 01:58:33,816
And He loves you just the way you are!
2261
01:58:33,982 --> 01:58:40,614
Glory, glory, hallelujah
2262
01:58:40,823 --> 01:58:46,829
Glory, glory, hallelujah
2263
01:58:48,121 --> 01:58:54,378
Glory, glory, hallelujah
2264
01:58:54,545 --> 01:59:00,843
His truth is marching on
2265
01:59:01,552 --> 01:59:05,222
Our God is
2266
01:59:06,181 --> 01:59:09,852
Marching
2267
01:59:10,018 --> 01:59:15,357
On
2268
01:59:18,318 --> 01:59:22,197
Thank you, Lord,
for the United States of America.
2269
01:59:22,406 --> 01:59:23,740
We thank you, Lord,
2270
01:59:23,824 --> 01:59:27,077
that we live in this wonderful country.
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God bless America. Hallelujah.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's not over till it's over.
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