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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,530 --> 00:00:32,364 With your index finger, I want you to touch your nose. 2 00:00:35,770 --> 00:00:38,130 Do it with each side. 3 00:00:41,042 --> 00:00:43,442 Get your hands out of your pockets. 4 00:00:43,444 --> 00:00:45,511 Don't touch the wall. 5 00:00:48,649 --> 00:00:51,550 One, two, three, four, five. 6 00:00:51,552 --> 00:00:53,685 Five, four, three, two, one. 7 00:00:53,687 --> 00:00:56,087 All right, very good. Have a seat. 8 00:01:06,267 --> 00:01:08,133 If it is your second DWI, 9 00:01:08,135 --> 00:01:12,771 your license will be suspended for up to a year. 10 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:15,374 I... I'm going to... I'm gonna go to the bathroom. 11 00:01:15,376 --> 00:01:16,475 You gotta go to the bathroom? 12 00:01:16,477 --> 00:01:17,543 Yeah. You gonna get sick? 13 00:01:17,545 --> 00:01:19,178 Nope. 14 00:01:19,180 --> 00:01:20,279 All right. 15 00:02:18,806 --> 00:02:20,672 Let's go, Kevin. 16 00:02:32,353 --> 00:02:33,886 Shit. 17 00:03:56,237 --> 00:03:58,637 Prisoner is loose in the building. 18 00:04:04,378 --> 00:04:06,011 Good morning, everybody. 19 00:04:06,013 --> 00:04:08,814 KTRX AM 440, Des Moines. 20 00:04:08,816 --> 00:04:10,649 It is just before 6:00 a.m. 21 00:04:10,651 --> 00:04:12,417 Skies are cloudy. 22 00:04:12,419 --> 00:04:14,820 And Tom Thompson, a mechanic from Marshalltown... 23 00:04:51,392 --> 00:04:55,627 ¶ We walked along the shadows ¶ 24 00:04:55,629 --> 00:04:59,064 ¶ Later in the afternoon ¶ 25 00:05:05,973 --> 00:05:10,876 ¶ We stood like strangers ¶ 26 00:05:10,878 --> 00:05:15,747 ¶ And the sunlight rushing through ¶ 27 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:17,649 Socrates is quoted as saying, 28 00:05:17,651 --> 00:05:22,054 "Nothing is to be preferred before justice." 29 00:05:22,056 --> 00:05:24,489 It's what we seek when we're wronged, 30 00:05:24,491 --> 00:05:28,427 but like all philosophy, this is simply a hypothesis. 31 00:05:28,429 --> 00:05:30,862 Monday started out like any other day: 32 00:05:30,864 --> 00:05:34,599 Wake up, kiss my wife Nancy, run three miles. 33 00:05:34,601 --> 00:05:37,703 My mind was sharp, my body agile. 34 00:05:37,705 --> 00:05:39,571 But since I passed the bar, 35 00:05:39,573 --> 00:05:42,607 I just needed a couple of easy victories to keep me going, 36 00:05:42,609 --> 00:05:44,076 to keep truth on my side. 37 00:05:44,078 --> 00:05:45,744 Good morning. Hi. 38 00:05:51,018 --> 00:05:54,720 Gracey. Anybody get hurt today? 39 00:05:54,722 --> 00:05:55,887 Every day, boss. 40 00:05:55,889 --> 00:05:58,523 You have three messages on your desk. 41 00:05:58,525 --> 00:06:00,592 Only three? 42 00:06:01,929 --> 00:06:04,062 In the last year, I had come to believe 43 00:06:04,064 --> 00:06:05,530 that the only way to keep my head above water 44 00:06:05,532 --> 00:06:07,466 was to take cases 45 00:06:07,468 --> 00:06:09,935 where I had to set my own moral beliefs aside. 46 00:06:11,004 --> 00:06:12,637 And here I am. 47 00:06:12,639 --> 00:06:14,406 Three miles every day, 48 00:06:14,408 --> 00:06:17,776 trying to convince myself that it's all worth it. 49 00:06:17,778 --> 00:06:19,010 Jury, have you reached a verdict? 50 00:06:19,012 --> 00:06:20,645 Yes, Your Honor, we have. 51 00:06:20,647 --> 00:06:22,147 How do you find the defendant? 52 00:06:22,149 --> 00:06:23,849 Not liable, Your Honor. 53 00:06:23,851 --> 00:06:25,917 Case dismissed. 54 00:06:34,595 --> 00:06:36,027 Look, I'm sorry. 55 00:06:36,029 --> 00:06:37,863 They're lying, can't you see that? 56 00:06:37,865 --> 00:06:42,100 I know, I know. 57 00:06:42,102 --> 00:06:44,636 Can I give you some bus fare home? 58 00:06:44,638 --> 00:06:47,198 You've got to be kidding me. 59 00:06:54,715 --> 00:06:56,415 His name's Otis. 60 00:06:56,417 --> 00:06:57,682 Who's that, the owner? 61 00:06:57,684 --> 00:07:00,118 Yeah. 62 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,187 Otis. 63 00:07:04,458 --> 00:07:06,625 Look at these. 64 00:07:06,627 --> 00:07:10,028 Which one's real, which one's fake? 65 00:07:10,030 --> 00:07:12,831 Hmm. 66 00:07:12,833 --> 00:07:15,534 Well, uh, they're both zircons. 67 00:07:15,536 --> 00:07:17,702 Fuckin' worthless, man. 68 00:07:17,704 --> 00:07:19,671 Come on, man. Nobody can tell the difference. 69 00:07:19,673 --> 00:07:22,193 It's like a Lincoln from a Cadillac. 70 00:07:23,043 --> 00:07:24,743 Look, we go on the road with this shit, 71 00:07:24,745 --> 00:07:26,478 we're make us a fortune. 72 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,680 How do you know? 73 00:07:28,682 --> 00:07:30,115 Know what? 74 00:07:30,117 --> 00:07:33,084 The difference between a Lincoln and a Cadillac? 75 00:07:33,086 --> 00:07:36,087 My dad drives a Cadillac, and it ain't no fucking Lincoln. 76 00:07:36,089 --> 00:07:39,825 All I'm saying is I want us to be partners, okay? 77 00:07:39,827 --> 00:07:42,794 I'll take care of you. Don't worry about a thing. 78 00:07:42,796 --> 00:07:45,156 Yeah, boy, you don't believe me? 79 00:07:47,534 --> 00:07:49,601 I don't trust you, Eric. 80 00:07:51,138 --> 00:07:53,705 Who pays your bills? 81 00:07:53,707 --> 00:07:55,106 Me. 82 00:07:55,108 --> 00:07:56,508 Who sits up with you all night long 83 00:07:56,510 --> 00:07:57,509 when you're depressed? 84 00:07:57,511 --> 00:07:59,110 Me. And, you don't trust me? 85 00:07:59,112 --> 00:08:00,812 Kevin, come on? 86 00:08:00,814 --> 00:08:03,181 You patronize me. 87 00:08:03,183 --> 00:08:06,117 You-you... You tell me all the things you think I want to hear, 88 00:08:06,119 --> 00:08:09,020 and then you use me. 89 00:08:09,022 --> 00:08:10,755 I mean, you still haven't fuckin' paid me. 90 00:08:10,757 --> 00:08:12,724 I sold two grand worth of shit for you, and I want my cut. 91 00:08:12,726 --> 00:08:14,092 All right, take it. 92 00:08:14,094 --> 00:08:15,694 You sell; Keep whatever you want. 93 00:08:15,696 --> 00:08:16,761 They're fucking worthless, man! 94 00:08:16,763 --> 00:08:18,763 They're zircons. I just said that! 95 00:08:23,937 --> 00:08:26,004 Come here. 96 00:08:27,674 --> 00:08:29,741 Come on. 97 00:08:31,011 --> 00:08:35,914 Hey, you used to be so different. 98 00:08:43,991 --> 00:08:45,757 You were still a virgin when I met you. 99 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:47,826 Oh, fuck you, man. 100 00:08:52,566 --> 00:08:54,633 Nobody's gonna see. Come on. 101 00:08:56,103 --> 00:08:58,770 I'll give you your money. I will. 102 00:09:01,575 --> 00:09:03,642 Put your fuckin' dick away, Eric. 103 00:09:06,613 --> 00:09:08,179 Kevin, I'm sorry, man. 104 00:09:18,191 --> 00:09:20,825 Look, it's only your third case. 105 00:09:20,827 --> 00:09:23,161 You can get your ass handed to you in personal injury. 106 00:09:23,163 --> 00:09:27,098 Wow, now I'm getting advice from my paralegal. 107 00:09:27,100 --> 00:09:31,970 Yeah, with six years experience in the courtroom, as you know. 108 00:09:31,972 --> 00:09:34,139 Besides, I only have to pass the bar. 109 00:09:34,141 --> 00:09:36,107 Iowa bar is tough. 110 00:09:36,109 --> 00:09:38,810 Yeah, how many times you take it? 111 00:09:38,812 --> 00:09:40,879 Once. First to finish. 112 00:09:40,881 --> 00:09:43,615 Liar. 113 00:09:43,617 --> 00:09:46,885 Wow, that's not bad for a Philosophy major. 114 00:09:46,887 --> 00:09:48,353 You never did tell me how you went 115 00:09:48,355 --> 00:09:50,689 from Socrates to the penal code. 116 00:09:50,691 --> 00:09:53,058 It's not that much of a leap, really. 117 00:09:53,060 --> 00:09:54,859 I mean, it goes back to the Romans. 118 00:09:54,861 --> 00:09:56,695 Plato wrote whole volumes of law 119 00:09:56,697 --> 00:09:58,997 for the King of Syracuse in Greece. 120 00:09:58,999 --> 00:10:00,732 Law is built on theory. 121 00:10:00,734 --> 00:10:02,000 Sure, what's right and wrong. 122 00:10:02,002 --> 00:10:04,603 Exactly. All right, take, for example, today. 123 00:10:04,605 --> 00:10:07,973 Our client completely refused a field sobriety test, 124 00:10:07,975 --> 00:10:10,709 he refused arrest, and he got smacked for it. 125 00:10:10,711 --> 00:10:13,078 Now, do I agree with what the cops did? 126 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,613 No. 127 00:10:14,615 --> 00:10:17,048 It's that manipulation, that balance of power, 128 00:10:17,050 --> 00:10:19,184 that made me want to become a lawyer. 129 00:10:19,186 --> 00:10:22,120 We're the great equalizers, Monica. 130 00:10:22,122 --> 00:10:24,856 It's not my third case. 131 00:10:24,858 --> 00:10:25,857 I know. Right. 132 00:10:25,859 --> 00:10:26,858 It's your fourth. 133 00:10:29,329 --> 00:10:31,029 Look, honestly, 134 00:10:31,031 --> 00:10:33,198 you've got to play the jury more. 135 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,335 Right and wrong is something they decide in their gut. 136 00:10:37,337 --> 00:10:39,704 You can't expect them to absorb all those facts. 137 00:10:39,706 --> 00:10:42,374 They need a hook, you know, something to grasp. 138 00:10:42,376 --> 00:10:45,143 The jury today bought that cop's story. 139 00:10:45,145 --> 00:10:47,712 Especially juror number four. 140 00:10:47,714 --> 00:10:50,148 Yeah, well, foreman's usually a dominant white male. 141 00:10:50,150 --> 00:10:53,251 And, nobody wants to believe that cops hurt innocent people. 142 00:10:53,253 --> 00:10:54,786 Nobody. Not even me. 143 00:10:54,788 --> 00:10:57,956 All right, no more police brutality cases. 144 00:10:57,958 --> 00:10:59,791 They're impossible to win. I'm serious. 145 00:10:59,793 --> 00:11:02,293 You're the boss. Yes, I am. 146 00:11:02,295 --> 00:11:05,930 I got to go study for that brutal lowa bar. 147 00:11:05,932 --> 00:11:06,931 Yes, you do. 148 00:11:06,933 --> 00:11:08,867 And when I pass, I expect a raise. 149 00:11:08,869 --> 00:11:12,237 Counselor, we need to win a couple of cases first. 150 00:11:12,239 --> 00:11:15,373 Don't think too much. It's not good for you. 151 00:11:15,375 --> 00:11:17,409 Thanks, appreciate that. 152 00:11:17,411 --> 00:11:19,678 Nighty-night. Nighty-night. 153 00:11:21,715 --> 00:11:25,050 I got it. I got your car. 154 00:11:25,052 --> 00:11:27,352 Hey, look who's home late again! 155 00:11:27,354 --> 00:11:32,257 Hey, Daddy. Hey, buddy. 156 00:11:32,259 --> 00:11:33,391 Where's Bert? 157 00:11:33,393 --> 00:11:34,993 Bert and Clark had a little fight. 158 00:11:43,970 --> 00:11:45,336 Any blood shed? 159 00:11:45,338 --> 00:11:47,005 Bert was mean to me. 160 00:11:47,007 --> 00:11:48,273 Bert's in his room. 161 00:11:48,275 --> 00:11:50,341 Hmm. 162 00:11:51,945 --> 00:11:54,979 Whoa, whoa, whoa, you gotta give his mommy a kiss first. 163 00:11:59,419 --> 00:12:00,785 Honey, what's wrong? 164 00:12:02,923 --> 00:12:04,089 What do you think? 165 00:12:04,091 --> 00:12:05,990 You lost? 166 00:12:09,963 --> 00:12:11,229 I'll go talk to Bert. 167 00:12:11,231 --> 00:12:12,964 Okay. 168 00:12:27,214 --> 00:12:29,814 Whoosh. 169 00:12:34,888 --> 00:12:37,021 Tough day, partner? 170 00:12:37,023 --> 00:12:38,857 What happened? 171 00:12:38,859 --> 00:12:41,226 Well, we were playing cars, and I wanted to race them 172 00:12:41,228 --> 00:12:43,428 to see who was the fastest. 173 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:47,165 And I started to race them, and Clark tried to stop me, 174 00:12:47,167 --> 00:12:48,533 and I hit him. 175 00:12:48,535 --> 00:12:52,470 Oh, well, you're his big brother, Bert. 176 00:12:52,472 --> 00:12:56,875 You gotta protect him, 177 00:12:56,877 --> 00:12:59,844 'cause that's what big brothers do. 178 00:12:59,846 --> 00:13:01,479 Okay, bud? Okay. 179 00:13:01,481 --> 00:13:03,548 I love you. Love you, too. 180 00:13:04,551 --> 00:13:06,985 All right, so I am gonna send Mommy in, 181 00:13:06,987 --> 00:13:08,553 and she'll bring some milk, 182 00:13:08,555 --> 00:13:10,021 but I don't want any more fighting. 183 00:13:10,023 --> 00:13:11,289 Okay? Okay. 184 00:13:11,291 --> 00:13:13,091 Promise? Yes. 185 00:13:13,093 --> 00:13:14,425 Okay. Good night, bud. 186 00:13:14,427 --> 00:13:15,827 Good night. 187 00:13:20,967 --> 00:13:23,168 The contestants came from all over the country, 188 00:13:23,170 --> 00:13:24,435 driving all sort of cars... 189 00:13:24,437 --> 00:13:26,504 You talk to him? 190 00:13:29,075 --> 00:13:30,308 Stu, did you talk to him? 191 00:13:30,310 --> 00:13:33,511 He's okay. 192 00:13:33,513 --> 00:13:36,147 He's a good boy. 193 00:13:36,149 --> 00:13:38,082 Maybe Bert and Clark shouldn't share a room. 194 00:13:38,084 --> 00:13:39,083 Why not? 195 00:13:39,085 --> 00:13:40,852 They fight constantly. 196 00:13:40,854 --> 00:13:42,974 Yeah, well, they have to learn how to get along; 197 00:13:44,124 --> 00:13:48,259 How to make compromises. 198 00:13:48,261 --> 00:13:50,581 Can you take Bert to soccer practice on Friday? 199 00:13:53,300 --> 00:13:56,301 I just... 200 00:13:56,303 --> 00:13:58,903 I just thought this was open and shut case. 201 00:13:58,905 --> 00:14:02,907 I mean, now the guy has got no job, 202 00:14:02,909 --> 00:14:04,976 no income, 203 00:14:07,347 --> 00:14:09,414 no car. 204 00:14:21,294 --> 00:14:24,629 Hey sweetie, can't you wait until dinner, huh? 205 00:14:24,631 --> 00:14:26,297 And go put on a shirt before you sit 206 00:14:26,299 --> 00:14:28,699 down at the table, okay, hun? Yes, ma'am. 207 00:14:29,636 --> 00:14:31,636 Stop it. Get out of here. 208 00:14:31,638 --> 00:14:33,271 You're going out tonight, aren't you? 209 00:14:33,273 --> 00:14:36,040 Oh, come on. You're hardly ever home anymore. 210 00:14:36,042 --> 00:14:38,543 I'm 21 years old, guys. Don't worry. 211 00:14:38,545 --> 00:14:41,379 It's my job to worry. It's in the Mom handbook. 212 00:14:43,617 --> 00:14:45,283 I'm driving up to Marshalltown. 213 00:14:45,285 --> 00:14:47,051 Really? To see who? 214 00:14:47,053 --> 00:14:49,120 Nobody. 215 00:14:51,057 --> 00:14:54,058 ¶ He's got a girlfriend in Marshalltown ¶ 216 00:14:54,060 --> 00:14:55,393 No. 217 00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:57,595 I mean, you know, there are girls there, 218 00:14:57,597 --> 00:15:00,431 just none of them happen to be my girlfriend. 219 00:15:04,271 --> 00:15:06,088 What do you think, Dad? 220 00:15:06,089 --> 00:15:07,906 You think the girls are prettier here, or in Marshalltown? 221 00:15:07,908 --> 00:15:09,240 I think the prettiest girl in the world 222 00:15:09,242 --> 00:15:11,075 is sitting right at this table. 223 00:15:11,077 --> 00:15:12,076 Right now. 224 00:15:12,078 --> 00:15:14,045 Oh, you. 225 00:15:16,116 --> 00:15:20,685 Hey, you really wanna drive an hour all the up to Marshalltown? 226 00:15:20,687 --> 00:15:23,054 It's an hour. It's fine. 227 00:15:23,056 --> 00:15:24,222 This guy Eric lives up there. 228 00:15:24,224 --> 00:15:25,590 I know him. He owes me some money. 229 00:15:25,592 --> 00:15:28,393 Then some people are meeting up at a bar. Okay? 230 00:15:31,598 --> 00:15:32,664 What? 231 00:15:36,503 --> 00:15:39,570 Okay, I'll have three beers. 232 00:15:39,572 --> 00:15:41,639 Four if they're lights. 233 00:15:43,510 --> 00:15:46,444 I mean, you guys really think I want another DWI? 234 00:15:46,446 --> 00:15:48,046 I should hope not. Well, just... 235 00:15:48,048 --> 00:15:50,415 Call... Just call, you hear? 236 00:15:50,417 --> 00:15:52,450 I know. 237 00:15:52,452 --> 00:15:53,718 Sure, Mom. 238 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,453 Hey, what about me? 239 00:15:55,455 --> 00:15:56,454 What about you? 240 00:15:56,456 --> 00:15:59,424 I have to hold back. 241 00:15:59,426 --> 00:16:01,459 I just wanna bite him. 242 00:16:45,739 --> 00:16:47,605 Not here, leave a message. 243 00:16:47,607 --> 00:16:49,674 Eric, pick up! 244 00:16:52,012 --> 00:16:54,645 You know what? 245 00:16:54,647 --> 00:16:56,014 You know what, man? 246 00:16:56,016 --> 00:16:58,049 I mean, I'd call you a loser and a liar, 247 00:16:58,051 --> 00:17:00,385 but I think you know what a piece of shit you are. 248 00:17:00,387 --> 00:17:03,154 I mean, you-you... You can't even pay me what you owe me. 249 00:17:03,156 --> 00:17:04,589 You know, what kind of fuckin' man does that make you? 250 00:17:04,591 --> 00:17:06,591 So you know what...? By the way, 251 00:17:06,593 --> 00:17:08,874 I'm at the bar here by myself, you fuckin' asshole. 252 00:17:50,336 --> 00:17:51,937 Excuse me. Sorry. 253 00:18:00,180 --> 00:18:02,660 Why are you so sad? 254 00:18:05,852 --> 00:18:08,419 I'm not sad. 255 00:18:09,622 --> 00:18:12,657 I'm Cara, with a "C". 256 00:18:15,695 --> 00:18:19,130 I'm Kevin, with a "K". 257 00:18:23,536 --> 00:18:26,571 You want to play some pool? 258 00:18:26,573 --> 00:18:30,208 No, I'm no good at pool. 259 00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:34,278 Plus, if I lost, I'd feel really stupid. 260 00:18:35,648 --> 00:18:37,782 Well, what if I let you win? 261 00:18:42,589 --> 00:18:44,589 You got a girlfriend? 262 00:18:44,591 --> 00:18:48,860 You know, that's the second time 263 00:18:48,862 --> 00:18:51,629 someone's asked me that question today. 264 00:18:51,631 --> 00:18:53,898 No, no, I don't. 265 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:56,267 Do you have a girlfriend? 266 00:18:57,704 --> 00:18:59,570 No. 267 00:18:59,572 --> 00:19:02,012 I don't have a boyfriend either. 268 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,680 I-I need to... I need to go. 269 00:19:10,617 --> 00:19:14,485 Oh, wait. Wait, um. 270 00:19:14,487 --> 00:19:16,154 Here. 271 00:19:24,397 --> 00:19:26,564 Promise you'll call? 272 00:19:29,369 --> 00:19:31,702 Yeah, I promise. 273 00:19:31,704 --> 00:19:34,305 Okay. 274 00:20:32,699 --> 00:20:33,898 ¶ All right ¶ 275 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,633 ¶ And it's believin' ¶ 276 00:20:35,635 --> 00:20:37,602 ¶ Don't be shy ¶ 277 00:20:37,604 --> 00:20:38,803 ¶ You know me ¶ 278 00:20:38,805 --> 00:20:41,639 ¶ I'm on your side ¶ 279 00:20:41,641 --> 00:20:43,307 ¶ Public deceiver ¶ 280 00:20:43,309 --> 00:20:44,642 ¶ Take a hike ¶ 281 00:20:44,644 --> 00:20:46,811 ¶ We don't want you or your lies ¶ 282 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,354 Shit. Oh, shit. 283 00:21:31,991 --> 00:21:34,592 Thomas, honey, get the phone. 284 00:21:38,431 --> 00:21:42,033 Hello? Yes, this is he. 285 00:21:42,035 --> 00:21:44,702 Who is it? 286 00:21:44,704 --> 00:21:46,904 Which hospital? 287 00:21:46,906 --> 00:21:50,608 Thomas? What? 288 00:21:50,610 --> 00:21:54,712 I don't understand. What press release? 289 00:21:56,916 --> 00:21:58,649 Well, what can you tell me? 290 00:21:58,651 --> 00:22:01,052 Kevin! Kevin! 291 00:22:01,054 --> 00:22:02,053 Beverly? 292 00:22:02,055 --> 00:22:04,855 Thomas, he's not here. 293 00:22:22,675 --> 00:22:24,842 Anybody get hurt today, Grace? 294 00:22:24,844 --> 00:22:27,478 You have an appointment with the Thackers. 295 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,713 I'm sorry, who? 296 00:22:28,715 --> 00:22:30,881 Thomas and Beverly Thacker at 10:30. 297 00:22:30,883 --> 00:22:32,550 Thackers. Thank you. 298 00:22:46,766 --> 00:22:48,466 Thomas and Beverly. 299 00:22:50,603 --> 00:22:52,403 Hello. Hi, Beverly. 300 00:22:52,405 --> 00:22:54,472 Oh, you're so young. Oh. 301 00:22:54,474 --> 00:22:55,673 Thomas. 302 00:22:55,675 --> 00:22:56,974 Mr. Pepper. Hi, there. 303 00:22:56,976 --> 00:22:57,975 Please, have a seat. 304 00:22:57,977 --> 00:23:00,497 Call me Stu. Thanks, Grace. 305 00:23:05,818 --> 00:23:08,853 So how can I help you? 306 00:23:08,855 --> 00:23:11,522 Well, you're a civil lawyer, right? 307 00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:14,425 You defended that fella 308 00:23:14,427 --> 00:23:17,595 who allegedly was hit by a police officer? 309 00:23:17,597 --> 00:23:19,663 Yes, I work in personal injury. 310 00:23:19,665 --> 00:23:21,098 But you lost the case? Thomas. 311 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:25,936 No, to be honest, yes, I did. 312 00:23:25,938 --> 00:23:27,858 It's not something I am proud of. 313 00:23:32,044 --> 00:23:35,413 Well, um, our son was arrested a few months ago for drunk driving 314 00:23:35,415 --> 00:23:36,981 by the Marshalltown police. 315 00:23:36,983 --> 00:23:38,015 How old is he? 316 00:23:38,017 --> 00:23:41,952 He was 21. 317 00:23:41,954 --> 00:23:46,657 And they took him to Marshalltown Police Department, 318 00:23:46,659 --> 00:23:49,927 and they were booking him, 319 00:23:49,929 --> 00:23:52,530 and supposedly he tried to escape custody. 320 00:23:52,532 --> 00:23:55,433 How drunk was he? 321 00:23:55,435 --> 00:23:56,434 Very. 322 00:23:56,436 --> 00:23:59,103 Point two blood-alcohol. Yes. 323 00:23:59,105 --> 00:24:03,541 They say that he ran up the stairs, and up to the roof of 324 00:24:03,543 --> 00:24:05,609 that building, and then jumped from that building 325 00:24:05,611 --> 00:24:07,645 to the building next to it, 326 00:24:07,647 --> 00:24:11,515 12 feet across and then fell 20 feet. 327 00:24:11,517 --> 00:24:14,518 Excuse me, I am sorry. 328 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,655 Drunk, he did all this? 329 00:24:17,657 --> 00:24:19,490 That's what they say, yes. 330 00:24:19,492 --> 00:24:22,793 That night they flew him... They airlifted him 331 00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:24,795 to a Des Moines hospital. 332 00:24:25,865 --> 00:24:27,965 The police report said that it was just 333 00:24:27,967 --> 00:24:30,768 a hair-line fracture on the side of his head. 334 00:24:42,682 --> 00:24:47,651 Um, Kevin has sustained a rather severe injury to his brain, 335 00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:49,820 due to his skull fracture. 336 00:24:49,822 --> 00:24:54,792 But it's still just one injury. That's good, right? 337 00:24:55,728 --> 00:24:58,929 Kevin's in a coma, 338 00:24:58,931 --> 00:25:01,212 and his chances of survival are very low. 339 00:25:05,638 --> 00:25:07,838 Survival? 340 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,775 Well, you said he just had a hairline fracture. 341 00:25:13,179 --> 00:25:15,946 In my opinion, his injuries are not consistent 342 00:25:15,948 --> 00:25:19,683 with the police report. 343 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:21,886 I'm very sorry. 344 00:25:29,228 --> 00:25:30,828 My wife had to make a decision 345 00:25:30,830 --> 00:25:33,270 that no mother should have to make. 346 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,036 Eventually, we had to take him off life support. 347 00:25:39,038 --> 00:25:42,873 Now, my father was a Des Moines police officer, 348 00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:45,976 and we have a lot of respect for the badge. 349 00:25:45,978 --> 00:25:50,247 But with those doctor reports and that hospital report. 350 00:25:50,249 --> 00:25:52,983 We can't help but feel 351 00:25:52,985 --> 00:25:57,154 that the Marshalltown Police killed our son. 352 00:26:09,602 --> 00:26:12,102 Why do you think the Thackers chose you? 353 00:26:12,104 --> 00:26:15,072 Maybe there isn't much of a case. 354 00:26:15,074 --> 00:26:19,143 The kid was drunk; He made some bad decisions. 355 00:26:19,145 --> 00:26:20,878 You think you were their last resource? 356 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,946 Maybe. 357 00:26:23,249 --> 00:26:25,009 It's not like I got a good track record 358 00:26:26,986 --> 00:26:28,035 fighting the cops. 359 00:26:28,036 --> 00:26:30,036 You might surprise yourself this time. 360 00:26:30,656 --> 00:26:32,690 Wait a minute. 361 00:26:32,692 --> 00:26:34,612 You think I should take this case? 362 00:26:35,995 --> 00:26:38,662 I mean, it could be an opportunity 363 00:26:38,664 --> 00:26:40,598 for you to learn from your mistakes. 364 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,733 Monica, I make a lot of them. 365 00:26:45,137 --> 00:26:47,171 There won't be concessions on either side. 366 00:26:49,275 --> 00:26:50,674 The defense works for the police; 367 00:26:50,676 --> 00:26:52,076 Insurance company pays for it. 368 00:26:52,078 --> 00:26:53,911 So, what? What are you getting at? 369 00:26:53,913 --> 00:26:55,312 They never lose. 370 00:26:55,314 --> 00:26:57,681 I've known you for two years now, 371 00:26:57,683 --> 00:27:00,243 and I've never seen you scared. 372 00:27:01,821 --> 00:27:05,022 Whatever happened to the worker's comp stuff? 373 00:27:05,024 --> 00:27:09,026 Bad backs, Spinal cord injuries, broken legs. 374 00:27:09,028 --> 00:27:10,728 That stuff is easier. 375 00:27:10,730 --> 00:27:12,696 Then don't do it. 376 00:27:12,698 --> 00:27:14,898 Probably not worth it. 377 00:27:19,171 --> 00:27:20,904 I'm gonna bribe you. 378 00:27:22,942 --> 00:27:26,944 What do you really think? 379 00:27:26,946 --> 00:27:28,379 I think, 380 00:27:28,381 --> 00:27:32,116 you either go balls out, or you scrap it. 381 00:27:32,118 --> 00:27:34,785 But I think you need to make a decision right now! 382 00:27:35,721 --> 00:27:37,321 Is this about you, 383 00:27:37,323 --> 00:27:41,091 or about the kid that was killed? 384 00:27:41,093 --> 00:27:43,327 I want my penny back. 385 00:27:57,877 --> 00:27:59,309 Honey, I'm trying to work. 386 00:27:59,311 --> 00:28:01,445 What? 387 00:28:01,447 --> 00:28:05,049 Look, this kid was killed 388 00:28:05,051 --> 00:28:07,151 at the Marshalltown Police Department. 389 00:28:07,153 --> 00:28:09,186 They found his body in the alley. 390 00:28:09,188 --> 00:28:11,255 So you think a cop did it? 391 00:28:12,758 --> 00:28:13,991 I don't know. 392 00:28:13,993 --> 00:28:16,226 I mean, they said he... 393 00:28:16,228 --> 00:28:18,028 They said he tried to escape. 394 00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:21,965 So you would be prosecuting the whole police department? 395 00:28:21,967 --> 00:28:25,035 The worse thing in the world would be to lose a child, Nancy. 396 00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:28,005 Honey, I don't want to be negative here, 397 00:28:28,007 --> 00:28:30,808 but what if you do all this work, 398 00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:33,043 you go to trial, and you lose? 399 00:28:34,113 --> 00:28:36,780 Well, 400 00:28:36,782 --> 00:28:40,818 then we will pack up, 401 00:28:40,820 --> 00:28:42,186 sell one of the cars. 402 00:28:42,188 --> 00:28:43,420 We will re-evaluate. 403 00:28:43,422 --> 00:28:46,023 We will, I don't know, 404 00:28:46,025 --> 00:28:47,191 we'll get a two-bedroom apartment 405 00:28:47,193 --> 00:28:48,826 like we had after we got married. 406 00:28:48,828 --> 00:28:51,829 Only this time we have two children to support. 407 00:28:51,831 --> 00:28:54,131 All right, Nancy. I won't take the case, then. 408 00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:57,367 Okay? I'll look for something more manageable. 409 00:29:01,207 --> 00:29:03,774 Okay. 410 00:29:20,292 --> 00:29:22,259 Thank you. 411 00:29:23,195 --> 00:29:24,895 I apologize about Beverly. 412 00:29:24,897 --> 00:29:28,432 She just went shopping. 413 00:29:28,434 --> 00:29:32,369 She's got the clothes bug the last couple days. 414 00:29:32,371 --> 00:29:35,472 I mean, she can spot a sale like a hawk. 415 00:29:37,009 --> 00:29:41,145 Mr. Thacker, I wanted to talk to you 416 00:29:41,147 --> 00:29:43,280 'cause I'm a little concerned. 417 00:29:43,282 --> 00:29:44,381 This is the only house 418 00:29:44,383 --> 00:29:46,550 that Kevin has ever lived in, you know. 419 00:29:46,552 --> 00:29:50,120 A lot of people out there today, there's just divorces, 420 00:29:50,122 --> 00:29:54,024 all kinds of things going on with kids and families. 421 00:29:56,395 --> 00:29:58,829 We worked hard to keep this together. 422 00:29:58,831 --> 00:30:01,965 You religious? 423 00:30:01,967 --> 00:30:05,169 Well, um, 424 00:30:05,171 --> 00:30:08,572 I believe in the truth, wherever that leads you. 425 00:30:08,574 --> 00:30:10,507 Socrates is my hero. 426 00:30:10,509 --> 00:30:13,544 Socrates? Yeah. 427 00:30:13,546 --> 00:30:15,212 You married? Yeah. 428 00:30:15,214 --> 00:30:17,047 Kids? 429 00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:18,448 Two boys. 430 00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:20,317 Four and six. 431 00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:22,085 A real handful, let me tell you. 432 00:30:26,058 --> 00:30:29,026 Yeah, Kevin was our youngest. 433 00:30:29,028 --> 00:30:32,129 The rest are all married and have kids of their own. 434 00:30:36,902 --> 00:30:40,504 He, uh, he was a surprise. 435 00:30:42,608 --> 00:30:45,442 We didn't expect him. 436 00:30:45,444 --> 00:30:47,477 He used to call me old, 437 00:30:47,479 --> 00:30:49,999 so I made him do all the yard work. 438 00:30:51,517 --> 00:30:52,583 What line of work are you in? 439 00:30:52,585 --> 00:30:55,586 Hmm? What line of work are you in? 440 00:30:55,588 --> 00:30:59,456 Oh, I'm retired early. 441 00:30:59,458 --> 00:31:03,961 I used to do maintenance at Sears & Roebuck. 442 00:31:03,963 --> 00:31:08,365 And some ancillary work at the Des Moines Police Department. 443 00:31:13,005 --> 00:31:15,525 And now I just soak up my retirement fund. 444 00:31:16,909 --> 00:31:18,375 That's a good place to be. 445 00:31:19,912 --> 00:31:21,979 Not really. 446 00:31:26,552 --> 00:31:30,187 I went down there, 447 00:31:30,189 --> 00:31:34,224 the Marshalltown Police Department, 448 00:31:34,226 --> 00:31:36,159 and I took a look for myself. 449 00:31:37,596 --> 00:31:42,032 There's no way any human being could have made that jump. 450 00:31:42,034 --> 00:31:45,002 Kevin could barely stand on one leg without falling down. 451 00:31:49,575 --> 00:31:53,010 Have you seen his arresting officer? Dodge? 452 00:31:55,047 --> 00:31:57,114 How big he is? 453 00:31:59,118 --> 00:32:02,653 Sometimes, people just snap. 454 00:32:02,655 --> 00:32:05,489 It must've been a struggle. He got scared. 455 00:32:05,491 --> 00:32:07,557 You're damn right he was scared. 456 00:32:09,028 --> 00:32:10,829 I was talking about the cop. 457 00:32:12,064 --> 00:32:16,633 I don't care how you wanna slice the pie. 458 00:32:16,635 --> 00:32:19,236 Kevin's dead. 459 00:32:19,238 --> 00:32:21,479 And that guy is still out there, walking around. 460 00:32:25,311 --> 00:32:27,751 I want to show you Kevin's room. Come here. 461 00:32:34,353 --> 00:32:34,853 ¶ 462 00:32:40,426 --> 00:32:43,093 The day he died, Beverly washed all his clothes, 463 00:32:43,095 --> 00:32:47,264 and folded them, and put them back in his dresser. 464 00:32:50,402 --> 00:32:53,036 The Cubs was his favorite team. 465 00:32:53,038 --> 00:32:55,339 Ryan Sandberg's a hell of a second baseman isn't he? 466 00:32:55,341 --> 00:32:57,441 We'll see how they do next year. 467 00:32:57,443 --> 00:33:01,345 Yeah, we sure will. 468 00:33:01,347 --> 00:33:03,613 I loved Wrigley Field. 469 00:33:03,615 --> 00:33:08,452 I was there for the first time in 1938. 470 00:33:08,454 --> 00:33:10,655 I think they won the pennant that year. 471 00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:15,726 That was before your time. 472 00:33:22,368 --> 00:33:24,501 I want you and another car to head downtown. 473 00:33:24,503 --> 00:33:26,470 We got a real back-up on Main Street. 474 00:33:26,472 --> 00:33:28,205 Just push all the traffic west on Elm. 475 00:33:28,207 --> 00:33:29,927 All right? West on Elm. 476 00:33:35,681 --> 00:33:39,316 You want me to go downtown, Chief? 477 00:33:39,318 --> 00:33:40,751 John, I think you're a good cop, 478 00:33:40,753 --> 00:33:42,352 but I got this thing on my plate. 479 00:33:42,354 --> 00:33:44,187 Seems we're being sued by the Kevin Thacker estate. 480 00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:46,556 Seems like some people got the wrong idea 481 00:33:46,558 --> 00:33:48,492 about what happened that night. 482 00:33:48,494 --> 00:33:52,229 He should've ran the other way. 483 00:33:52,231 --> 00:33:53,663 You know, he told me he was gonna end it. 484 00:33:53,665 --> 00:33:55,665 End what? When I was booking him, 485 00:33:55,667 --> 00:33:57,734 he said "I might was well end it now." 486 00:33:57,736 --> 00:33:59,669 And that's in the report? 487 00:33:59,671 --> 00:34:02,072 No. 488 00:34:02,074 --> 00:34:04,741 Ron, your stories match, right? 489 00:34:04,743 --> 00:34:08,545 We did everything that we could. Followed procedure. 490 00:34:08,547 --> 00:34:12,049 Prisoner escaped; Officer Dodge sounded the alarm. 491 00:34:12,051 --> 00:34:13,350 We had no idea where the kid was. 492 00:34:13,352 --> 00:34:14,751 Yeah, I even drove the ambulance. 493 00:34:14,753 --> 00:34:16,353 You know, next time, you just stay at the station. 494 00:34:16,355 --> 00:34:18,221 He was dying. The guys needed to be with him. 495 00:34:18,223 --> 00:34:20,290 I figure I should drive. 496 00:34:21,226 --> 00:34:23,093 All right. 497 00:34:23,095 --> 00:34:25,128 The lawyer's coming tomorrow morning. 498 00:34:25,130 --> 00:34:26,496 As long as they treat us with respect, 499 00:34:26,498 --> 00:34:28,331 there's gonna be no problem. 500 00:34:28,333 --> 00:34:30,200 We were trying to save the kid's life. 501 00:34:30,202 --> 00:34:32,202 Well, yeah, the FBI is gonna be involved, 502 00:34:32,204 --> 00:34:34,271 so just making sure that your bases are all covered. 503 00:34:34,273 --> 00:34:36,740 Fine, they'll understand how thorough I was. 504 00:34:36,742 --> 00:34:39,309 I took the pictures; I gathered the evidence. 505 00:34:39,311 --> 00:34:42,212 Well, if you're good, I'm good. 506 00:34:42,214 --> 00:34:44,781 Yeah, well, to be honest with you, I thought this was done. 507 00:34:44,783 --> 00:34:47,117 Right, okay. 508 00:34:52,124 --> 00:34:53,590 Ron? 509 00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:56,359 Yeah, give me a minute. 510 00:35:02,634 --> 00:35:05,635 I want you to put your arms out like this, 511 00:35:05,637 --> 00:35:07,988 I want you to put your head back, 512 00:35:07,989 --> 00:35:10,429 and with your index finger, I want you to touch your nose. 513 00:35:13,779 --> 00:35:15,846 Do it with each side. 514 00:35:19,218 --> 00:35:21,818 Now get your hands out of your pockets. 515 00:35:23,355 --> 00:35:26,490 If it is your second DWI, 516 00:35:26,491 --> 00:35:29,626 your license will be suspended for up to a year. 517 00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:32,195 I'm, I-I'm gonna... 518 00:35:32,197 --> 00:35:33,196 I'm gonna go to the bathroom. 519 00:35:33,198 --> 00:35:34,197 You gotta go to the bathroom? 520 00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:35,199 Yeah. You gonna get sick? 521 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,666 Nope. All right. 522 00:35:56,355 --> 00:35:58,288 So I guess you took the case? 523 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,393 Yeah. 524 00:36:03,395 --> 00:36:05,462 Even after all we talked about? 525 00:36:08,233 --> 00:36:10,333 I had to. 526 00:36:22,881 --> 00:36:26,683 On the tape, Kevin asks to use the bathroom at 1:15 a.m. 527 00:36:26,685 --> 00:36:29,553 He's in the bathroom for about two minutes. 528 00:36:29,555 --> 00:36:31,488 How do you know that? 529 00:36:31,490 --> 00:36:34,291 Well, because Dodge thinks Kevin is coming back into 530 00:36:34,293 --> 00:36:35,725 the interrogation room, 531 00:36:35,727 --> 00:36:37,627 so he turns the camera back on. 532 00:36:37,629 --> 00:36:41,264 Now Kevin doesn't come back, so Dodge starts to panic, 533 00:36:41,266 --> 00:36:44,267 he goes to search for Kevin, and the tape is left on 534 00:36:44,269 --> 00:36:46,570 for an additional minute and 15 seconds, 535 00:36:46,572 --> 00:36:49,206 then it's turned back off again. 536 00:36:49,208 --> 00:36:51,908 So it sounds like we have a missing minute and 15 seconds. 537 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:54,411 Right, but Dodge claimed he found Kevin unconscious 538 00:36:54,413 --> 00:36:58,448 at 1:24 a.m., that gives us a missing eight minutes. 539 00:36:58,450 --> 00:37:02,385 That's enough time to stage a fall; Do a cover-up. 540 00:37:02,387 --> 00:37:04,921 That's also enough time to climb the roof and make the jump. 541 00:37:04,923 --> 00:37:06,423 Well, we're about to see 542 00:37:06,425 --> 00:37:08,626 how possible that really is, aren't we? 543 00:37:26,378 --> 00:37:28,912 I'm the angel on your shoulder. 544 00:37:28,914 --> 00:37:31,715 You're an angel, huh? 545 00:37:31,717 --> 00:37:33,783 I have big fuckin' angel wings. 546 00:37:36,355 --> 00:37:38,421 I could have made that jump. 547 00:37:41,326 --> 00:37:43,927 I still got his blood on my uniform. 548 00:37:43,929 --> 00:37:46,730 Didn't wash out. 549 00:37:46,732 --> 00:37:48,498 So much blood came out of his head. 550 00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:52,936 Hey, you're acting like you've never seen blood before. 551 00:37:52,938 --> 00:37:56,039 Now listen, in the future, you follow the prisoner; 552 00:37:56,041 --> 00:37:57,374 The prisoner doesn't follow you. 553 00:37:57,376 --> 00:37:59,376 You're right. It was a mistake. 554 00:37:59,378 --> 00:38:00,910 Then why are you looking so fucking scared? 555 00:38:00,912 --> 00:38:02,646 I don't look fucking scared. 556 00:38:02,648 --> 00:38:06,850 I think you got on a lot of faces, but never the right one. 557 00:38:10,322 --> 00:38:12,656 You're a cop; Look like a cop. 558 00:38:26,438 --> 00:38:27,737 Captain. 559 00:38:29,341 --> 00:38:31,074 Mr. Pepper. I'm Chief Wilson. 560 00:38:31,076 --> 00:38:32,509 Stu. 561 00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:33,943 This is Greg Potter, he's our city attorney. 562 00:38:33,945 --> 00:38:35,312 Greg. Stu Pepper. 563 00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:36,680 This is Monica Wright, an associate of mine. 564 00:38:36,681 --> 00:38:38,048 Pleasure, ma'am. How can we help you folks? 565 00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:40,383 Just wanted to take a look at that roof; 566 00:38:40,385 --> 00:38:41,918 Maybe take some pictures. 567 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,386 Hope you didn't think you were going to take 568 00:38:43,388 --> 00:38:44,988 any depositions today. 569 00:38:44,990 --> 00:38:47,357 No. No. 570 00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:50,427 Just wanted to know the right questions to ask. 571 00:38:54,466 --> 00:38:56,733 According to their version, 572 00:38:56,735 --> 00:38:58,802 the two officers searched the basement, 573 00:38:58,804 --> 00:39:01,244 then the upper floors, but they never came up here. 574 00:39:13,852 --> 00:39:17,387 So he walked across here, no running start, 575 00:39:17,389 --> 00:39:19,589 and jumped over to the other building? 576 00:39:26,798 --> 00:39:28,398 That's a really long jump. 577 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,734 That's very, very far. 578 00:39:31,970 --> 00:39:33,370 But he does however 579 00:39:33,372 --> 00:39:35,538 drop the cigarette and lighter over there. 580 00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:36,906 Why didn't they just say that he fell? 581 00:39:36,908 --> 00:39:39,609 I mean, I don't get it. 582 00:39:39,611 --> 00:39:41,611 Injuries aside, we have to prove 583 00:39:41,613 --> 00:39:44,881 that Kevin was never on that other building. 584 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,126 Where are you going? Hmm? 585 00:40:30,128 --> 00:40:31,694 I was just getting started. 586 00:40:31,696 --> 00:40:33,530 Oh, you. 587 00:40:57,088 --> 00:40:59,956 Our greatest hope for the future 588 00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:01,691 are the minds and hearts of our people, 589 00:41:01,693 --> 00:41:03,760 especially our children. 590 00:41:03,762 --> 00:41:06,129 We can help them build tomorrow 591 00:41:06,131 --> 00:41:09,566 by strengthening our community of shared values. 592 00:41:09,568 --> 00:41:12,202 Values that help bring us together as one people, 593 00:41:12,204 --> 00:41:15,638 from the youngest child to the most senior citizen. 594 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,742 For us, faith, work, family, neighborhood, freedom... 595 00:41:19,744 --> 00:41:21,177 Oh, there he is. 596 00:41:21,179 --> 00:41:22,395 Mr. Pepper. 597 00:41:22,396 --> 00:41:23,612 Congratulations on your appointment. 598 00:41:23,615 --> 00:41:24,948 I appreciate that, I appreciate that. 599 00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:26,149 Come on back. 600 00:41:29,554 --> 00:41:31,955 Yeah, it is finally our turn again. 601 00:41:31,957 --> 00:41:33,590 We're excited. 602 00:41:33,592 --> 00:41:36,826 Did you see Reagan's State of the Union address 603 00:41:36,828 --> 00:41:38,695 the other night? 604 00:41:38,697 --> 00:41:41,231 "America, in the crimson light of a rising sun, 605 00:41:41,233 --> 00:41:45,001 fresh from the burning, creative hand of God." 606 00:41:46,538 --> 00:41:48,171 I guess we watched the same show. 607 00:41:48,173 --> 00:41:50,240 I helped write it. 608 00:41:53,979 --> 00:41:57,981 Well, you're aware of my suit against the Marshalltown PD? 609 00:41:57,983 --> 00:41:59,716 I sure am, my friend. 610 00:41:59,718 --> 00:42:02,552 I wanted to give you a heads up on that. 611 00:42:02,554 --> 00:42:04,654 I'm filing 15 counts, 612 00:42:04,656 --> 00:42:06,689 and when I get the Thackers their judgment, 613 00:42:06,691 --> 00:42:08,658 I would hope that your department would want to follow 614 00:42:08,660 --> 00:42:10,560 through on the prosecution of the men responsible. 615 00:42:10,562 --> 00:42:12,896 I'll do what's best for my department. 616 00:42:15,166 --> 00:42:17,567 You do plan on investigating the case? 617 00:42:17,569 --> 00:42:20,270 We'll take a look at the case; We will proceed from there. 618 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,607 Do the family a favor, 619 00:42:24,609 --> 00:42:27,977 have out of town agents do the investigation. 620 00:42:27,979 --> 00:42:30,914 Don't want to risk a connection with the local cops and 621 00:42:30,916 --> 00:42:32,582 conflict of interests. 622 00:42:32,584 --> 00:42:36,586 Sounds like you've been bitten in the ass before, huh? 623 00:42:36,588 --> 00:42:40,757 Yeah, that's why I wanted to come talk to you. 624 00:42:40,759 --> 00:42:43,126 You're the assistant to the Attorney General, 625 00:42:43,128 --> 00:42:46,696 and this is going to be a high-profile case. 626 00:42:46,698 --> 00:42:49,599 You know, maybe they'll put you on TV, huh? 627 00:42:49,601 --> 00:42:51,521 Be good for your practice, right? 628 00:42:52,671 --> 00:42:56,072 Sure would. 629 00:42:56,074 --> 00:42:58,207 Let me know when you assign an agent to the case. 630 00:42:58,209 --> 00:43:01,644 Well, Mr. Pepper, are you asking me or are you telling me? 631 00:43:04,249 --> 00:43:06,683 Whichever answer keeps this conversation going. 632 00:43:06,685 --> 00:43:09,986 Well, I think you're asking, so it's noted. 633 00:43:09,988 --> 00:43:12,055 Good luck with your case, huh? 634 00:43:19,297 --> 00:43:21,998 The only good is knowledge 635 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,935 and the only evil is ignorance. 636 00:43:25,937 --> 00:43:28,838 I wanted to understand Kevin Thacker, 637 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,340 talk to him, 638 00:43:30,342 --> 00:43:33,242 but the light ahead was beginning to fade. 639 00:43:33,244 --> 00:43:35,378 My own life out of balance, 640 00:43:35,380 --> 00:43:38,147 looking for a truth while everyone else 641 00:43:38,149 --> 00:43:40,950 turned a deaf ear and a blind eye. 642 00:43:40,952 --> 00:43:42,285 Just trying to keep my head above water 643 00:43:42,287 --> 00:43:44,320 was proving more and more difficult. 644 00:43:45,724 --> 00:43:47,624 All right, gentlemen, listen up. 645 00:43:47,626 --> 00:43:49,192 Any of you guys think you can jump 646 00:43:49,194 --> 00:43:53,730 from the end of the starting block to that rope 647 00:43:54,833 --> 00:43:57,133 without a running start? 648 00:43:57,135 --> 00:43:58,935 Sure. 649 00:44:00,005 --> 00:44:01,404 I took track and field in high school. 650 00:44:01,406 --> 00:44:02,739 Yeah? 651 00:44:02,741 --> 00:44:03,906 What do I get if I make it? 652 00:44:03,908 --> 00:44:06,175 You get the Dean's list, O'Brien. 653 00:44:06,177 --> 00:44:08,144 You're up, let's go. 654 00:44:08,146 --> 00:44:10,347 And don't laugh, all of you gonna get your shot. 655 00:44:16,087 --> 00:44:17,247 Don't mess up! Don't mess up! 656 00:44:22,827 --> 00:44:24,994 Yeah, let's see if you can do it. 657 00:44:24,996 --> 00:44:26,062 Zach. 658 00:44:29,167 --> 00:44:31,901 You guys, come on. 659 00:44:42,347 --> 00:44:44,297 So how do you think they'd do 660 00:44:44,298 --> 00:44:46,248 with a belly full of beer and a Police Officer on their tail? 661 00:44:46,251 --> 00:44:47,531 No way. 662 00:44:50,922 --> 00:44:53,289 Marshalltown PD's whole defense 663 00:44:53,291 --> 00:44:55,892 hinges on this jump, Monica. 664 00:44:55,894 --> 00:44:57,260 Put the swim coach on the stand. 665 00:44:57,262 --> 00:45:00,830 The field test obviously speaks for itself. 666 00:45:00,832 --> 00:45:03,066 The state medical examiner said Kevin's body 667 00:45:03,068 --> 00:45:07,737 had no other injuries besides the trauma to the brain. 668 00:45:07,739 --> 00:45:10,139 And not even a low board diver can make that jump. 669 00:45:10,141 --> 00:45:12,375 Much less Kevin Thacker. 670 00:45:12,377 --> 00:45:15,712 Right, but Kevin obviously did 671 00:45:15,714 --> 00:45:17,380 because of the menthol cigarette. 672 00:45:17,382 --> 00:45:20,016 That was planted. Exactly. 673 00:45:23,388 --> 00:45:25,421 Okay... Okay, so what do we have, then? 674 00:45:25,423 --> 00:45:28,157 Well, that gives us the power to convince a jury that: A, 675 00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:31,828 Kevin could never have made that jump; And B, 676 00:45:31,830 --> 00:45:35,031 his injuries don't reflect a fall of 24 feet. 677 00:45:35,033 --> 00:45:38,501 He was killed by blunt force. 678 00:45:38,503 --> 00:45:41,738 Kevin was drunk. One officer found the body. 679 00:45:41,740 --> 00:45:44,140 And they were in the perfect position for a cover-up. 680 00:45:44,142 --> 00:45:47,410 Yes. Monica, yes. 681 00:45:47,412 --> 00:45:48,945 All right, let's go through this again. 682 00:45:48,947 --> 00:45:50,947 What do we have? Oh, we got a lot. 683 00:45:50,949 --> 00:45:53,216 Somehow, Kevin's body ends up parallel to the building. 684 00:45:53,218 --> 00:45:54,517 In order to stage the fall. 685 00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:55,918 Dodge had to have moved the body, 686 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,420 because of the bruises under the arm pits. 687 00:46:18,810 --> 00:46:20,877 Hey, Nance! 688 00:46:23,114 --> 00:46:27,817 Bert? Clark? 689 00:46:40,799 --> 00:46:41,931 Hey. 690 00:46:44,002 --> 00:46:45,535 Where are the kids? 691 00:46:45,537 --> 00:46:47,170 They're at my mother's. 692 00:46:47,172 --> 00:46:50,506 You took them all the way to your mother's? 693 00:46:53,278 --> 00:46:54,911 God, I was in a good mood, 694 00:46:54,913 --> 00:46:55,912 I wanted to share that with my family, 695 00:46:55,914 --> 00:46:58,214 and I get an empty house. 696 00:46:58,216 --> 00:47:00,983 I wanted to spend some time with you alone. 697 00:47:00,985 --> 00:47:03,465 You haven't exactly been available. 698 00:47:04,255 --> 00:47:06,956 Clark has a birthday coming up, or did you forget? 699 00:47:10,428 --> 00:47:14,063 I bust my ass, trying to make a living for you, 700 00:47:14,065 --> 00:47:15,431 trying to do what's right. 701 00:47:15,433 --> 00:47:17,433 That's a lawyer, Stu, not a husband. 702 00:47:17,435 --> 00:47:21,070 You know, some people might disagree with you. 703 00:47:21,072 --> 00:47:25,107 What do I get? I get an empty fucking house! 704 00:47:25,109 --> 00:47:26,542 What the hell are you doing? 705 00:47:26,544 --> 00:47:29,245 Dammit. I am trying to get this thing open. 706 00:47:31,950 --> 00:47:34,016 Jesus Christ. 707 00:47:37,322 --> 00:47:38,888 Fuck. 708 00:48:07,151 --> 00:48:09,652 Nancy, I'm sorry. 709 00:49:07,078 --> 00:49:09,011 Why did you arrest Kevin Thacker? 710 00:49:09,013 --> 00:49:10,646 He was swerving on the road. 711 00:49:10,648 --> 00:49:12,581 I witnessed him almost hit a parked vehicle. 712 00:49:12,583 --> 00:49:16,252 He was pretty drunk, so it was a good arrest. 713 00:49:16,254 --> 00:49:18,087 What does a "good arrest" mean? 714 00:49:18,089 --> 00:49:20,056 It means that you follow protocol. 715 00:49:20,058 --> 00:49:23,459 So, how did he act when you took him into the station? 716 00:49:23,461 --> 00:49:25,461 He was nervous. 717 00:49:25,463 --> 00:49:27,196 Most are at that age. 718 00:49:27,198 --> 00:49:28,731 No screaming? No crying? 719 00:49:28,733 --> 00:49:31,734 None at all. 720 00:49:31,736 --> 00:49:36,038 If everything followed protocol, 721 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,673 how did it result in his death? 722 00:49:39,310 --> 00:49:40,643 That's a good question. 723 00:49:40,645 --> 00:49:42,578 Because you must have dealt with criminals 724 00:49:42,580 --> 00:49:43,546 much worse than Kevin. 725 00:49:43,548 --> 00:49:45,748 Sure, I have. 726 00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:48,484 Oh, and by the way, there was a warrant out for his arrest 727 00:49:48,486 --> 00:49:50,553 when I ran his license. 728 00:49:52,357 --> 00:49:53,522 For what? 729 00:49:53,524 --> 00:49:54,757 He didn't make a court date 730 00:49:54,759 --> 00:49:56,425 two weeks prior to the incident. 731 00:49:56,427 --> 00:49:58,995 It was a speeding violation. 732 00:50:00,498 --> 00:50:03,366 And I treated him like any other offender. 733 00:50:03,368 --> 00:50:06,502 But you were the last person to see him alive. 734 00:50:07,739 --> 00:50:09,338 The only mistake I made 735 00:50:09,340 --> 00:50:12,608 was to give him more credit that he deserved. 736 00:50:12,610 --> 00:50:15,044 He was no criminal. 737 00:50:15,046 --> 00:50:17,413 I really thought he was going to walk back into the room, 738 00:50:17,415 --> 00:50:19,615 but he didn't. 739 00:50:19,617 --> 00:50:22,051 I found him unconscious seven minutes later. 740 00:50:22,053 --> 00:50:24,687 How am I supposed to be held liable for that? 741 00:50:24,689 --> 00:50:26,722 When dispatch called you, you didn't pick up your radio. 742 00:50:26,724 --> 00:50:28,290 Is that correct. 743 00:50:29,293 --> 00:50:30,326 How do you know that? 744 00:50:30,328 --> 00:50:33,295 Oh, I've got the logs. 745 00:50:33,297 --> 00:50:36,766 Well, there was too much interference in the building. 746 00:50:36,768 --> 00:50:38,200 Interference. 747 00:50:38,202 --> 00:50:41,137 Yeah, too much interference in the building. 748 00:50:43,708 --> 00:50:46,609 So, did you interview all the relevant witnesses 749 00:50:46,611 --> 00:50:47,610 and people involved? 750 00:50:47,612 --> 00:50:49,678 Yes, I did. 751 00:50:51,215 --> 00:50:54,650 So, it was your claim that Kevin walked to the end of that beam 752 00:50:54,652 --> 00:50:58,220 and jumped from one rooftop to the next? 753 00:50:58,222 --> 00:51:00,456 That distance; That drunk. 754 00:51:00,458 --> 00:51:03,092 People do stupid things. 755 00:51:03,094 --> 00:51:04,326 Look, the long and short of it is 756 00:51:04,328 --> 00:51:05,795 I did a thorough investigation, 757 00:51:05,797 --> 00:51:07,663 and everyone behaved professionally and promptly. 758 00:51:07,665 --> 00:51:09,498 From the behavior of your department, 759 00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:10,599 I find that hard to believe. 760 00:51:10,601 --> 00:51:12,435 We have already acknowledged 761 00:51:12,437 --> 00:51:15,271 that certain procedural mistakes were made. 762 00:51:15,273 --> 00:51:18,174 Yeah, and if this is about questioning my skills 763 00:51:18,176 --> 00:51:19,341 as a detective, quite frankly, 764 00:51:19,343 --> 00:51:21,510 you have no idea what that entails. 765 00:51:21,512 --> 00:51:23,145 What do you have to gain from this case? 766 00:51:23,147 --> 00:51:24,747 What do you have to gain? 767 00:51:24,749 --> 00:51:26,415 Why don't you let me ask the questions. 768 00:51:26,417 --> 00:51:27,416 Besides money? 769 00:51:27,418 --> 00:51:30,152 Reputation. Justice. 770 00:51:30,154 --> 00:51:33,489 Look, just because you keep a clean image, Mr. Pebble, 771 00:51:33,491 --> 00:51:35,458 it doesn't mean you're above the law. 772 00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:37,560 You're putting on an act, sir, and I think you enjoy it. 773 00:51:37,562 --> 00:51:38,928 Counselor. 774 00:51:38,929 --> 00:51:40,295 Do you know anything about this kid. 775 00:51:40,298 --> 00:51:43,799 Did you speak to his boyfriend? 776 00:51:45,236 --> 00:51:46,235 I'm sorry? 777 00:51:46,237 --> 00:51:47,838 Eric Jones. I did. 778 00:51:48,806 --> 00:51:52,274 Kevin went to visit him that night. 779 00:51:52,276 --> 00:51:54,210 It was a closeted relationship. 780 00:51:54,212 --> 00:51:56,879 They weren't like flaming fags or anything. 781 00:51:56,881 --> 00:51:59,248 But he was quite a character. 782 00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:01,884 Now, Eric told me that Kevin was depressed, 783 00:52:01,886 --> 00:52:04,487 and had a drinking problem. 784 00:52:04,489 --> 00:52:06,856 And Officer Dodge said that the kid said he wanted to end it 785 00:52:06,858 --> 00:52:08,757 during the DUI processing. 786 00:52:08,759 --> 00:52:11,560 So when you're in that state of mind, anything can happen. 787 00:52:14,732 --> 00:52:16,599 Hey. All right, do me a favor, 788 00:52:16,601 --> 00:52:18,300 find out where Eric Jones lives. 789 00:52:18,302 --> 00:52:19,902 Yeah. Who's our judge? 790 00:52:19,904 --> 00:52:22,605 Hallow, he used to be City Attorney. 791 00:52:40,291 --> 00:52:42,925 Hello? 792 00:52:42,927 --> 00:52:44,727 Hello? 793 00:52:44,729 --> 00:52:45,794 Eric? 794 00:52:49,634 --> 00:52:51,554 I'm the lawyer in the Thacker case. 795 00:52:54,605 --> 00:52:56,438 Did you know Kevin Thacker? 796 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,175 You know, I'm having a party with myself right now, 797 00:52:59,177 --> 00:53:01,343 and you two, you're just... You're not invited, okay? 798 00:53:01,345 --> 00:53:04,180 Hey, hey, listen, we can do this two ways. 799 00:53:04,916 --> 00:53:06,199 You can talk to me now, 800 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,483 or I can have you officially deposed; 801 00:53:07,485 --> 00:53:09,351 We'll do it at the police station. 802 00:53:09,353 --> 00:53:13,222 I already talked to the cops. 803 00:53:13,224 --> 00:53:14,356 Marshalltown cops? 804 00:53:14,358 --> 00:53:16,225 No, Columbo. 805 00:53:16,227 --> 00:53:18,627 Eric, just a couple of minutes? 806 00:53:18,629 --> 00:53:20,262 Please. 807 00:53:21,465 --> 00:53:23,905 All right, fine. Back here. 808 00:53:27,638 --> 00:53:31,740 So all they told me is that he was arrested drunk 809 00:53:31,742 --> 00:53:34,443 and fell off the roof. 810 00:53:37,648 --> 00:53:40,216 I mean, I didn't push him or nothing, I swear to God. 811 00:53:40,218 --> 00:53:42,785 Yeah, but 812 00:53:42,787 --> 00:53:46,655 he came to Marshalltown to see you, right? 813 00:53:46,657 --> 00:53:48,257 I mean, that's why he was here. 814 00:53:48,259 --> 00:53:50,793 He came here first. 815 00:53:50,795 --> 00:53:52,728 How do you know that? 816 00:53:52,729 --> 00:53:54,662 Well, 'cause I talked to the same cop as you, 817 00:53:54,665 --> 00:53:55,764 Columbo. 818 00:53:58,769 --> 00:54:00,636 I owed him some money. 819 00:54:00,638 --> 00:54:03,572 He was kind of an impatient little guy, you know. 820 00:54:06,911 --> 00:54:08,752 I want my fucking money, Eric! 821 00:54:12,883 --> 00:54:15,484 Kevin, God rest his soul and all, 822 00:54:15,486 --> 00:54:17,486 he's what you'd call unpredictable. 823 00:54:17,488 --> 00:54:19,455 How's that? 824 00:54:19,457 --> 00:54:21,657 You never knew what he was gonna do. 825 00:54:21,659 --> 00:54:24,293 Like try to escape from the police? 826 00:54:24,295 --> 00:54:26,862 Yeah. That sounds a lot like him. 827 00:54:26,864 --> 00:54:29,431 I suppose if you were asked that same question 828 00:54:29,433 --> 00:54:32,835 in a deposition or in a court, you'd have the same answer. 829 00:54:32,837 --> 00:54:35,738 Might be worse, actually. 830 00:54:35,740 --> 00:54:40,309 Are you hiding something Eric? 831 00:54:40,311 --> 00:54:42,311 I'm not hiding anything, okay? 832 00:54:42,313 --> 00:54:44,046 I mean, I tried to take care of him, you know? 833 00:54:44,048 --> 00:54:47,283 He would come over here, he'd spend the night, 834 00:54:47,285 --> 00:54:49,985 the kid would flip out all night long, crying and shit. 835 00:54:53,291 --> 00:54:55,924 I think he was very scared about who he really was. 836 00:55:00,531 --> 00:55:02,565 He must have been terrified 837 00:55:02,566 --> 00:55:05,046 sitting in that interrogation room, I'll tell you that. 838 00:55:10,775 --> 00:55:12,841 When he died, 839 00:55:14,812 --> 00:55:18,447 I couldn't go to the funeral. 840 00:55:18,449 --> 00:55:20,883 I didn't want to see his parents. 841 00:55:24,055 --> 00:55:27,206 You know, Kevin, 842 00:55:27,207 --> 00:55:30,358 he wouldn't have wanted me there anyways, you know. 843 00:55:30,361 --> 00:55:32,428 So, that's all I am going to say. 844 00:55:32,430 --> 00:55:34,470 You want any more, you gotta expose me. 845 00:55:35,766 --> 00:55:37,099 Depose you. 846 00:55:38,369 --> 00:55:39,368 Shall we? 847 00:55:39,370 --> 00:55:40,869 Yeah. 848 00:55:43,808 --> 00:55:44,807 He had a gold leaf on them. 849 00:55:44,809 --> 00:55:45,808 I know. 850 00:55:46,811 --> 00:55:47,810 Come! 851 00:55:47,812 --> 00:55:48,977 Judge Hallow? 852 00:55:48,979 --> 00:55:49,978 Yes? 853 00:55:49,980 --> 00:55:50,979 Stu Pepper, Your Honor. 854 00:55:50,981 --> 00:55:51,980 The lawyer in the Thacker case. 855 00:55:51,982 --> 00:55:54,116 Oh. 856 00:55:54,118 --> 00:55:55,851 Greg. 857 00:55:55,853 --> 00:55:57,453 You're here on Officer Dodge's motion for summary judgment. 858 00:55:57,455 --> 00:55:58,954 I am. 859 00:55:58,956 --> 00:56:01,590 Fifteen counts, Mr. Pepper. Very ambitious. 860 00:56:01,592 --> 00:56:03,058 It is. 861 00:56:03,060 --> 00:56:05,861 Your Honor, I move for dismissal of all counts. 862 00:56:07,431 --> 00:56:09,031 I'm throwing out 14 of the counts. 863 00:56:09,033 --> 00:56:10,532 Why? 864 00:56:10,534 --> 00:56:13,435 Insufficient evidence. 865 00:56:13,437 --> 00:56:14,570 It's all circumstantial. 866 00:56:14,572 --> 00:56:16,532 Didn't you learn that in law school? 867 00:56:18,376 --> 00:56:21,443 You're throwing out 14 out of 15 counts? 868 00:56:21,445 --> 00:56:23,679 Okay. What count are you keeping? 869 00:56:23,681 --> 00:56:26,115 "Excessive force." Barely. 870 00:56:26,117 --> 00:56:27,950 Your Honor, can I be frank? 871 00:56:27,952 --> 00:56:29,418 If you must. 872 00:56:29,420 --> 00:56:31,487 You used to be city attorney, correct? 873 00:56:31,489 --> 00:56:34,523 You used to be him: Defending these guys. 874 00:56:34,525 --> 00:56:38,427 Is there any chance this could be a conflict of interest? 875 00:56:43,701 --> 00:56:45,667 Are you hinting I may not be 876 00:56:45,669 --> 00:56:47,636 fair and impartial, Mr. Pepper? 877 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,573 You've got a case to prepare, 878 00:56:51,575 --> 00:56:53,792 and people to answer to. 879 00:56:53,793 --> 00:56:56,010 Exactly how smart is it to piss off the judge before the trial? 880 00:56:56,013 --> 00:56:59,081 I'm not trying to piss you off. 881 00:56:59,083 --> 00:57:02,117 And I'll take your one count of excessive force, 882 00:57:02,119 --> 00:57:04,953 because that's all I need to win the case. 883 00:57:04,955 --> 00:57:07,589 Thank you, gentlemen. I will see you both in court. 884 00:57:12,663 --> 00:57:14,863 But don't worry about it getting dirty. 885 00:57:14,865 --> 00:57:17,132 I have to take things to the cleaners every once in awhile. 886 00:57:17,134 --> 00:57:19,201 I like your scarf too. 887 00:57:26,677 --> 00:57:28,477 Why aren't you sleeping? 888 00:57:31,715 --> 00:57:33,782 I don't know. 889 00:57:37,555 --> 00:57:41,623 Nance, um, I'm not sure what to do. 890 00:57:45,830 --> 00:57:49,665 I got an FBI director that could care less, 891 00:57:49,667 --> 00:57:52,868 got a judge that throws out 95% of my counts. 892 00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:57,172 Same judge who used to make his living defending cops. 893 00:57:58,809 --> 00:58:01,710 Baby, I'm so sorry. 894 00:58:05,850 --> 00:58:08,951 I just want you to be careful. 895 00:58:08,953 --> 00:58:13,055 Think about what it means to prosecute cop after cop. 896 00:58:13,057 --> 00:58:16,925 Stu, these people can make our lives miserable. 897 00:58:16,927 --> 00:58:21,196 Yeah, but they're already making peoples' lives miserable. 898 00:58:23,801 --> 00:58:26,168 Somebody's gotta take a stand. 899 00:58:28,239 --> 00:58:30,119 You don't have to do it tonight. 900 00:58:33,143 --> 00:58:35,244 Come on, let's go to bed. 901 00:58:44,855 --> 00:58:46,288 All right, break it up. 902 00:58:46,290 --> 00:58:47,956 Break it up, I said. 903 00:59:17,721 --> 00:59:21,857 An honest man is always a child. 904 00:59:21,859 --> 00:59:24,026 But it's even simpler. 905 00:59:24,028 --> 00:59:27,095 What has been lost and what has been gained? 906 00:59:28,098 --> 00:59:30,198 I was close to the Thackers, 907 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:34,836 seeing my own image in their loss. 908 00:59:34,838 --> 00:59:37,139 I never knew if I was their last stop on a long list 909 00:59:37,141 --> 00:59:40,275 that I just happened to be at the bottom of. 910 00:59:40,277 --> 00:59:43,712 I was learning that the self-doubt, the anxiety, 911 00:59:43,714 --> 00:59:46,682 sleepless nights, time away from my own family 912 00:59:46,684 --> 00:59:51,587 was to be expected if I was going to succeed. 913 00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:53,255 I had become close to a young man 914 00:59:53,257 --> 00:59:56,158 who I have never had the opportunity to meet. 915 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,660 His justice rests on my shoulders. 916 01:00:01,665 --> 01:00:05,867 I can't raise the dead, but I have to speak for them. 917 01:00:30,861 --> 01:00:34,329 Jury members, you are being asked to decide 918 01:00:34,331 --> 01:00:36,965 whether excessive force was used 919 01:00:36,967 --> 01:00:39,368 during the arrest of Kevin Thacker. 920 01:00:39,370 --> 01:00:41,370 The city attorneys will attempt to prove 921 01:00:41,372 --> 01:00:44,740 that Mr. Thacker escaped custody during his booking, 922 01:00:44,742 --> 01:00:48,810 and died accidentally during this getaway. 923 01:00:50,014 --> 01:00:51,947 The attorneys for the Thackers will attempt to prove 924 01:00:51,949 --> 01:00:53,682 that the head trauma he incurred 925 01:00:53,684 --> 01:00:57,252 could not have happened the way it was reported. 926 01:00:57,254 --> 01:01:01,423 It is your charge to determine what you believe the truth is. 927 01:01:26,183 --> 01:01:29,418 Mr. Pepper, please call your first witness. 928 01:01:29,420 --> 01:01:32,888 Your Honor, I would like to call Officer John Dodge. 929 01:01:35,893 --> 01:01:38,160 Officer Dodge, 930 01:01:38,162 --> 01:01:41,430 let me start out by asking a very simple question. 931 01:01:44,401 --> 01:01:47,369 Go ahead. 932 01:01:47,371 --> 01:01:49,004 Do you normally brush your teeth 933 01:01:49,006 --> 01:01:50,966 before you go to work in the morning? 934 01:01:51,408 --> 01:01:52,874 Yes. 935 01:01:55,412 --> 01:01:57,292 And have you ever killed anyone? 936 01:02:01,018 --> 01:02:02,284 Yes, I have. 937 01:02:02,286 --> 01:02:05,887 I was in the 25th Infantry division 938 01:02:05,889 --> 01:02:09,191 at Cu Chi and Dau Tieng, Vietnam. 939 01:02:09,193 --> 01:02:12,260 And in what manner 940 01:02:12,262 --> 01:02:15,363 did you perform these killings in Vietnam? 941 01:02:16,467 --> 01:02:20,168 With my rifle. Sometimes my bayonet. 942 01:02:20,170 --> 01:02:22,204 All in self-defense. 943 01:02:25,075 --> 01:02:27,943 Just to be clear for the Jury. 944 01:02:27,945 --> 01:02:29,111 Self-defense? 945 01:02:29,113 --> 01:02:31,012 I learned to make quick decisions 946 01:02:31,014 --> 01:02:32,280 in delicate situations. 947 01:02:32,282 --> 01:02:34,382 I guess that's why I became a cop. 948 01:02:34,384 --> 01:02:37,819 Quick decisions in delicate situations. 949 01:02:37,821 --> 01:02:39,888 Hmm. 950 01:02:39,890 --> 01:02:41,022 What's your height and weight? 951 01:02:41,024 --> 01:02:43,925 6'1", 210 pounds. 952 01:02:43,927 --> 01:02:48,764 And Kevin Thacker was 5'7", 133 pounds. 953 01:02:48,766 --> 01:02:52,000 That's quite a difference, isn't it? 954 01:02:52,002 --> 01:02:54,402 Well, I'm bigger than most people, 955 01:02:54,404 --> 01:02:56,538 so it's no surprise to me. 956 01:02:56,540 --> 01:03:00,275 On the night of October 29th, 1983, 957 01:03:00,277 --> 01:03:02,878 did a struggle occur in the alleyway 958 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,479 behind the Marshalltown Police Department, 959 01:03:04,481 --> 01:03:06,281 between yourself and Kevin Thacker? 960 01:03:06,283 --> 01:03:07,549 No, it did not. 961 01:03:07,551 --> 01:03:09,050 And during that struggle, 962 01:03:09,052 --> 01:03:11,887 being a man of your size and experience, 963 01:03:11,889 --> 01:03:14,222 you struck Kevin on the left side of the head killing him. 964 01:03:14,224 --> 01:03:16,258 Is that correct? 965 01:03:16,260 --> 01:03:18,460 No, I did not. 966 01:03:18,462 --> 01:03:20,663 I was simply trying to find an escaped prisoner. 967 01:03:29,206 --> 01:03:31,373 Prisoner is loose in the building. 968 01:03:44,488 --> 01:03:46,555 Shit. 969 01:03:59,236 --> 01:04:00,936 Shit. 970 01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:05,307 Call an ambulance. 971 01:04:14,518 --> 01:04:18,286 From the time that Kevin asked to use the bathroom, 972 01:04:18,288 --> 01:04:21,289 to the time that you found him unconscious, 973 01:04:21,291 --> 01:04:25,460 that was approximately seven minutes, correct? 974 01:04:25,462 --> 01:04:27,195 Yes, that's right. 975 01:04:27,196 --> 01:04:28,929 He was in the bathroom for just under two minutes, 976 01:04:28,932 --> 01:04:31,032 and we were walking out. 977 01:04:31,034 --> 01:04:33,568 I went to turn the video camera back on, 978 01:04:33,570 --> 01:04:36,538 and then I realized that he had fled. 979 01:04:36,540 --> 01:04:38,774 After a search, 980 01:04:38,775 --> 01:04:41,009 I came back a minute later to turn the camera off, 981 01:04:41,011 --> 01:04:45,180 and with the assistance of other officers, did another search. 982 01:04:45,182 --> 01:04:47,916 Well, why bother to come all the way back 983 01:04:47,918 --> 01:04:49,451 to turn the video camera off? 984 01:04:49,453 --> 01:04:51,119 There was nobody was in the room. 985 01:04:51,121 --> 01:04:52,654 It was an instinct. 986 01:04:52,655 --> 01:04:54,188 And we all have certain instincts 987 01:04:54,191 --> 01:04:57,225 that force us to do certain things, correct? 988 01:04:57,227 --> 01:04:59,961 Kevin Thacker would still be alive today 989 01:04:59,963 --> 01:05:03,064 if he would have just allowed me to do my job. 990 01:05:03,066 --> 01:05:06,501 Kevin had to allow you to do your job? 991 01:05:09,606 --> 01:05:11,973 I don't think it's that simple, Officer Dodge. 992 01:05:14,211 --> 01:05:16,091 No further questions, Your Honor. 993 01:05:26,924 --> 01:05:29,491 Professor Daily, can you tell the court 994 01:05:29,493 --> 01:05:32,627 what a standing broad jump is? 995 01:05:32,629 --> 01:05:34,562 A standing broad jump is an event 996 01:05:34,564 --> 01:05:37,232 in which the competitor stands at a line, 997 01:05:37,234 --> 01:05:40,068 and from a standing posture, they jump as far as they can. 998 01:05:40,070 --> 01:05:42,237 And what's the world's record for such a jump? 999 01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:45,173 The longest jump is 12 feet, one inch. 1000 01:05:45,175 --> 01:05:49,177 And do you think anyone, even a trained athlete, 1001 01:05:49,179 --> 01:05:52,080 could make such a jump? 1002 01:05:52,082 --> 01:05:53,315 No. 1003 01:05:53,317 --> 01:05:56,151 Have you done any tests to verify this? 1004 01:05:56,153 --> 01:05:58,119 Yes, I did. 1005 01:05:58,121 --> 01:06:00,522 Several of my swimmers jumped from a platform 1006 01:06:00,524 --> 01:06:04,159 similar to the one Kevin Thacker allegedly leaped from. 1007 01:06:04,161 --> 01:06:06,494 Right. What were the results? 1008 01:06:06,496 --> 01:06:09,698 None of them were able to complete the 12 feet. 1009 01:06:09,700 --> 01:06:12,600 Not even close. 1010 01:06:12,602 --> 01:06:15,036 Well, so in light of your test, 1011 01:06:15,038 --> 01:06:17,539 if those athlete's lives depended 1012 01:06:17,541 --> 01:06:19,541 on jumping those 12 feet, 1013 01:06:19,543 --> 01:06:22,110 how many would still be alive today? 1014 01:06:22,112 --> 01:06:24,679 None of them. 1015 01:06:24,681 --> 01:06:26,721 I mean, unless they had wings, you know. 1016 01:06:30,454 --> 01:06:32,654 Thank you. 1017 01:06:32,656 --> 01:06:33,722 I'm a medical doctor, 1018 01:06:33,724 --> 01:06:35,557 specializing in forensic pathology. 1019 01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:37,726 I've taught the subject for the past 12 years 1020 01:06:37,728 --> 01:06:39,561 at the Wisconsin State Medical School, 1021 01:06:39,563 --> 01:06:42,197 and was a coroner for over 20 years. 1022 01:06:42,199 --> 01:06:45,767 No, Kevin Thacker's autopsy was done by the county coroner. 1023 01:06:45,769 --> 01:06:49,738 Mr. Thacker died from a contrecoup injury to the brain. 1024 01:06:49,740 --> 01:06:52,540 The two types of injuries are a coup and contrecoup. 1025 01:06:52,542 --> 01:06:55,777 Since the brain floats in the fluid of the skull, 1026 01:06:55,779 --> 01:06:57,612 and is subject to movement, 1027 01:06:57,614 --> 01:07:00,615 in a coup injury, the skull would hit an object, 1028 01:07:00,617 --> 01:07:04,052 such as a fall, and the brain hits the side of the skull 1029 01:07:04,054 --> 01:07:05,487 where the impact occurred. 1030 01:07:05,489 --> 01:07:09,024 In Kevin's injury, an object hit the skull, 1031 01:07:09,026 --> 01:07:13,361 not the reverse, producing a contrecoup injury. 1032 01:07:13,363 --> 01:07:16,364 This forces the brain to the other side of the skull. 1033 01:07:16,366 --> 01:07:20,201 In his case: Blunt object hitting the left temporal bone 1034 01:07:20,203 --> 01:07:23,471 causing bleeding in the right temporal lobe. 1035 01:07:23,473 --> 01:07:26,241 Doctor, did the autopsy report 1036 01:07:26,243 --> 01:07:31,079 reveal any other injuries to Kevin, at all? 1037 01:07:31,081 --> 01:07:33,381 There was bruises underneath his armpits, 1038 01:07:33,383 --> 01:07:36,501 but other than that, no. 1039 01:07:36,502 --> 01:07:39,620 The defense claims that Kevin died from a fall of 24 feet 1040 01:07:39,623 --> 01:07:42,290 onto an asphalt surface. 1041 01:07:42,292 --> 01:07:44,092 Well, bluntly put, 1042 01:07:44,094 --> 01:07:47,762 that would defy both medical and biological science. 1043 01:07:47,764 --> 01:07:49,497 It's outrageous, really. 1044 01:07:49,499 --> 01:07:52,667 He would have multiple bruising where the impact occurred, 1045 01:07:52,669 --> 01:07:55,370 other bone fractures, damages to his organs, 1046 01:07:55,372 --> 01:07:58,807 which Mr. Thacker did not have. 1047 01:07:58,809 --> 01:08:01,076 Thank you, Doctor. 1048 01:08:11,621 --> 01:08:15,123 Dr. Booker, how long have you been a state medical examiner 1049 01:08:15,125 --> 01:08:17,759 and what does that job entail? 1050 01:08:17,761 --> 01:08:19,327 Well, I specialize 1051 01:08:19,329 --> 01:08:21,262 in comprehensive medical examinations, 1052 01:08:21,264 --> 01:08:23,098 primarily postmortem. 1053 01:08:23,100 --> 01:08:24,599 And for five years, I've worked as an expert witness 1054 01:08:24,601 --> 01:08:26,434 for the police department. 1055 01:08:26,436 --> 01:08:30,238 And in your expert opinion, from what height can a person 1056 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,142 hit the ground without sustaining injury? 1057 01:08:34,144 --> 01:08:36,611 A body can fall from as high as six stories 1058 01:08:36,613 --> 01:08:38,546 without sustaining injury. 1059 01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:41,749 Six stories. Thank you. 1060 01:08:41,751 --> 01:08:44,586 No further questions, Your Honor. 1061 01:08:44,588 --> 01:08:46,654 Cross examine, Mr. Pepper. 1062 01:08:53,897 --> 01:08:58,299 Um, let me get this straight. 1063 01:08:58,301 --> 01:09:00,168 Now, you just testified 1064 01:09:00,170 --> 01:09:03,805 that a body can fall six stories 1065 01:09:03,807 --> 01:09:06,241 without sustaining an injury. 1066 01:09:06,243 --> 01:09:07,775 Is that correct? 1067 01:09:07,777 --> 01:09:09,377 Yes, yes. 1068 01:09:09,379 --> 01:09:11,246 If there's an equal, instantaneous transference 1069 01:09:11,248 --> 01:09:14,616 between the body and the ground. 1070 01:09:14,618 --> 01:09:15,898 Right. 1071 01:09:17,354 --> 01:09:20,555 Well, now what is that? 1072 01:09:20,557 --> 01:09:24,392 Can you demonstrate that for us right now? 1073 01:09:24,394 --> 01:09:26,461 Let's just say, three feet. 1074 01:09:26,463 --> 01:09:30,231 And you choose which side you land on. 1075 01:09:30,233 --> 01:09:31,499 No. 1076 01:09:31,501 --> 01:09:34,869 Why? Are you afraid of getting hurt? 1077 01:09:37,374 --> 01:09:40,942 Okay, lets say two feet. 1078 01:09:40,944 --> 01:09:41,943 One foot? 1079 01:09:41,945 --> 01:09:44,179 Objection. Your Honor, 1080 01:09:44,181 --> 01:09:45,647 if Mr. Pepper wants someone to fall, 1081 01:09:45,649 --> 01:09:47,715 let him demonstrate it himself. 1082 01:09:47,717 --> 01:09:49,584 Sustained. Mr. Pepper. 1083 01:10:01,631 --> 01:10:03,432 Can you tell me what this is? 1084 01:10:03,967 --> 01:10:05,500 That's a physics equation. 1085 01:10:05,502 --> 01:10:10,371 Force equals mass times acceleration. 1086 01:10:10,373 --> 01:10:12,941 Now, based on this equation, 1087 01:10:12,943 --> 01:10:15,510 can you tell me at what force. 1088 01:10:15,512 --> 01:10:17,912 Kevin's body hit the ground with? 1089 01:10:19,516 --> 01:10:21,883 No. No, I can't. 1090 01:10:21,885 --> 01:10:23,551 Why not? 1091 01:10:23,553 --> 01:10:25,820 Look, I'm a medical examiner, okay? 1092 01:10:25,822 --> 01:10:27,989 I'm not good at math. 1093 01:10:31,461 --> 01:10:33,494 No further questions, Your Honor. 1094 01:10:41,371 --> 01:10:44,105 The court room 1095 01:10:44,106 --> 01:10:46,840 is one of the most unpredictable places on earth. 1096 01:10:46,843 --> 01:10:50,612 You never know exactly what you're up against. 1097 01:10:50,614 --> 01:10:54,249 You just hope you can inspire that jury. 1098 01:10:55,385 --> 01:10:57,552 I've known Officer Dodge for six years; 1099 01:10:57,554 --> 01:10:59,254 Detective Pebble for ten. 1100 01:10:59,256 --> 01:11:00,888 How would you describe Officer Dodge? 1101 01:11:00,890 --> 01:11:04,525 Well, he's a big young man, but he's certainly not a bully. 1102 01:11:04,527 --> 01:11:07,028 He's just an officer that comes to work every day, 1103 01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:08,930 and goes about his business quietly. 1104 01:11:08,932 --> 01:11:10,565 And Detective Pebble? 1105 01:11:10,567 --> 01:11:11,866 Oh, Detective Pebble is simply 1106 01:11:11,868 --> 01:11:13,401 the best cop I've ever worked with. 1107 01:11:13,403 --> 01:11:17,005 Chief Wilson, have you ever known Officer Dodge 1108 01:11:17,007 --> 01:11:19,540 to have a problem with his temper? 1109 01:11:19,542 --> 01:11:22,343 The young man had some difficulties in Vietnam, 1110 01:11:22,345 --> 01:11:23,645 but since I've known him, 1111 01:11:23,647 --> 01:11:25,880 he's made hundreds of arrests without incident, 1112 01:11:25,882 --> 01:11:28,616 all of them good. 1113 01:11:28,617 --> 01:11:31,351 Chief, would you please tell this court your opinion 1114 01:11:31,354 --> 01:11:35,723 on the theory that Kevin Thacker's death was a cover-up. 1115 01:11:35,725 --> 01:11:39,494 No, no. Not in my department. 1116 01:11:39,496 --> 01:11:41,329 Simply there wasn't enough time. 1117 01:11:41,331 --> 01:11:44,932 I mean, you take this arbitrary video tape of the ordeal, 1118 01:11:44,934 --> 01:11:47,235 one to seven minutes. 1119 01:11:47,236 --> 01:11:49,537 There's not enough time in there to concoct a cover-up. 1120 01:11:49,539 --> 01:11:51,005 Thank you, Chief Wilson. 1121 01:11:51,007 --> 01:11:53,308 No further questions at this time, Your Honor. 1122 01:11:53,310 --> 01:11:55,677 Mr. Pepper? 1123 01:11:55,679 --> 01:12:00,481 Well, actually, the time frame is quite clear. 1124 01:12:00,483 --> 01:12:01,883 Dodge sounded the alarm 1125 01:12:01,885 --> 01:12:05,620 at 1:17 a.m., 1126 01:12:05,622 --> 01:12:07,922 that's from your station logs, 1127 01:12:07,924 --> 01:12:10,792 and Dodge discovered the body at 1:24 a.m. 1128 01:12:10,794 --> 01:12:13,594 That's seven minutes. 1129 01:12:14,898 --> 01:12:17,432 Should we allow the court to have seven minutes of silence 1130 01:12:17,434 --> 01:12:21,436 right now, just to understand how long that actually is? 1131 01:12:43,460 --> 01:12:45,393 That's not even 30 seconds, Chief. 1132 01:12:48,031 --> 01:12:52,567 Do you really think that this couldn't have occurred? 1133 01:12:52,569 --> 01:12:56,070 Not on my watch; Not in my department. 1134 01:13:02,712 --> 01:13:07,615 Detective Pebble, how long have you known Officer John Dodge? 1135 01:13:08,852 --> 01:13:10,918 Ten years. 1136 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,621 And just to be clear for the court, 1137 01:13:13,623 --> 01:13:16,891 it was you who investigated the death of Kevin Thacker? 1138 01:13:16,893 --> 01:13:19,694 Yes, I did. 1139 01:13:19,696 --> 01:13:22,797 Did you investigate whether John Dodge committed a crime 1140 01:13:22,799 --> 01:13:26,534 on the night of October 29th, 1983? 1141 01:13:26,536 --> 01:13:29,670 No. 1142 01:13:29,672 --> 01:13:33,007 Well, why not? 1143 01:13:33,009 --> 01:13:35,943 No crime was committed, except by Kevin Thacker. 1144 01:13:35,945 --> 01:13:40,047 You never, not even for a moment, 1145 01:13:40,049 --> 01:13:44,152 considered the culpability of Officer Dodge? 1146 01:13:45,989 --> 01:13:47,822 There's no evidence to support that. 1147 01:13:47,824 --> 01:13:50,625 Where were you during the booking? 1148 01:13:51,961 --> 01:13:54,962 Somebody was getting beat up across the street, 1149 01:13:54,964 --> 01:13:56,597 I was on a radio call for that. 1150 01:13:56,599 --> 01:14:00,668 But, I returned shortly after the ambulance was called. 1151 01:14:00,670 --> 01:14:02,136 And, where was Officer Dodge? 1152 01:14:02,138 --> 01:14:04,906 He was with the victim. 1153 01:14:04,908 --> 01:14:07,575 Who notified Kevin's parents? 1154 01:14:07,577 --> 01:14:08,976 The Des Moines PD. 1155 01:14:08,978 --> 01:14:12,046 Why didn't you do the notification? 1156 01:14:12,048 --> 01:14:14,882 Because I was busy collecting evidence and statements 1157 01:14:14,884 --> 01:14:18,119 with respect to Mr. Thacker's unfortunate fall. 1158 01:14:18,121 --> 01:14:20,721 Really? Well, what did that consist of? 1159 01:14:20,723 --> 01:14:24,826 Talking to the parties involved; Interviewing them. 1160 01:14:24,828 --> 01:14:27,061 That's when I found out about Kevin's mental state 1161 01:14:27,063 --> 01:14:29,230 during the arrest. 1162 01:14:29,232 --> 01:14:32,633 Turns out the boy was broken-hearted. 1163 01:14:32,635 --> 01:14:35,937 How could you possibly be aware of Kevin's mental state? 1164 01:14:35,939 --> 01:14:37,555 Because I interviewed his boyfriend. 1165 01:14:37,556 --> 01:14:39,172 His boyfriend said he had showed up at Marshalltown... 1166 01:14:39,175 --> 01:14:42,243 Detective, Kevin's sexual orientation 1167 01:14:42,245 --> 01:14:43,945 is not on trial here, 1168 01:14:43,947 --> 01:14:46,881 your colleague John Dodge is. 1169 01:14:46,883 --> 01:14:48,616 Look, I'm not going to allow you 1170 01:14:48,618 --> 01:14:50,318 to dance around this any longer. 1171 01:14:50,319 --> 01:14:52,019 I want you to tell the court, beat by beat, 1172 01:14:52,021 --> 01:14:54,489 moment by moment, what happened? 1173 01:14:56,159 --> 01:14:58,693 Prisoner is loose in the building. 1174 01:15:27,924 --> 01:15:32,226 So he did all this, while intoxicated, 1175 01:15:32,228 --> 01:15:34,095 leaping like a world-class athlete, 1176 01:15:34,097 --> 01:15:35,696 dropping the cigarette and lighter, 1177 01:15:35,698 --> 01:15:40,067 and falling 24 feet, only sustaining one injury. 1178 01:15:40,069 --> 01:15:41,869 Yes, it appears that way, yes. 1179 01:15:41,871 --> 01:15:44,572 After Kevin was taken to the hospital, 1180 01:15:44,574 --> 01:15:47,041 why did have his clothes ordered back to the station? 1181 01:15:47,043 --> 01:15:49,110 To be used as evidence. I already told you that. 1182 01:15:49,112 --> 01:15:52,713 And to allow you to fabricate your version of the events. 1183 01:15:52,715 --> 01:15:54,615 You had time to plant the cigarette, 1184 01:15:54,617 --> 01:15:58,553 and create the evidence, because it didn't matter, detective. 1185 01:15:58,555 --> 01:16:02,256 Kevin Thacker was never on that roof. 1186 01:16:07,130 --> 01:16:09,010 No further questions, Your Honor. 1187 01:16:17,807 --> 01:16:20,308 Thank you for being here, Mrs. Thacker. 1188 01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:22,910 I don't think anyone in this room would argue 1189 01:16:22,912 --> 01:16:25,279 that this is a very tough thing for you to do. 1190 01:16:25,281 --> 01:16:29,050 It hasn't been easy. 1191 01:16:29,052 --> 01:16:31,953 Will you please tell the court 1192 01:16:31,955 --> 01:16:35,356 a little bit about Kevin? 1193 01:16:35,358 --> 01:16:36,924 What he was like. 1194 01:16:36,926 --> 01:16:38,225 Sure. 1195 01:16:38,227 --> 01:16:42,163 Kevin was a good son. 1196 01:16:42,165 --> 01:16:44,799 Very good son. Funny, smart. 1197 01:16:44,801 --> 01:16:49,236 He was going to community college. 1198 01:16:49,238 --> 01:16:52,039 Did...? 1199 01:16:52,041 --> 01:16:54,875 Did Kevin have a drinking problem? 1200 01:16:55,878 --> 01:16:59,614 I think he was just young, acting his age. 1201 01:16:59,616 --> 01:17:03,217 Maybe a little lost at times. 1202 01:17:05,922 --> 01:17:09,290 You know, he may have had some issues with alcohol, 1203 01:17:09,292 --> 01:17:12,927 but I think more he just never knew exactly 1204 01:17:12,929 --> 01:17:16,330 where to direct his attention. 1205 01:17:16,332 --> 01:17:21,002 And what will you miss most 1206 01:17:21,004 --> 01:17:22,269 about Kevin? 1207 01:17:22,271 --> 01:17:24,705 Objection, Your Honor. Relevance. 1208 01:17:24,707 --> 01:17:27,675 Trying to make the deceased a person, 1209 01:17:27,677 --> 01:17:29,910 not just a name, Your Honor. 1210 01:17:29,912 --> 01:17:31,345 Overruled. 1211 01:17:31,347 --> 01:17:33,414 You can answer, Ma'am. 1212 01:17:38,221 --> 01:17:42,823 I'll miss sitting at the table with him, after dinner, 1213 01:17:42,825 --> 01:17:46,260 just the two of us, talking. 1214 01:17:46,262 --> 01:17:49,997 I used to give him the business about putting on his shirt, 1215 01:17:49,999 --> 01:17:53,000 and he'd never listen to me. 1216 01:17:53,002 --> 01:17:56,337 He'd just say, "We're done eatin', Ma. Relax." 1217 01:17:58,408 --> 01:18:02,743 Believe it or not, I'll miss worrying about him. 1218 01:18:02,745 --> 01:18:05,012 It's just, after you give birth, 1219 01:18:05,014 --> 01:18:07,181 it becomes ingrained in you. 1220 01:18:07,183 --> 01:18:10,451 It's just like a part of you, as long as you live. 1221 01:18:10,453 --> 01:18:13,287 That worry is just always there. 1222 01:18:13,289 --> 01:18:15,222 I'll miss that. 1223 01:18:16,392 --> 01:18:18,059 And, what else will you miss? 1224 01:18:21,698 --> 01:18:24,131 Everything. 1225 01:18:24,133 --> 01:18:27,068 Everything that would've come after. 1226 01:18:38,147 --> 01:18:40,281 Sorry. 1227 01:18:40,283 --> 01:18:42,883 Thank you, Beverly. 1228 01:18:54,130 --> 01:18:56,030 Hey, guys. 1229 01:18:56,032 --> 01:18:58,552 Hey, Mike. How are you? 1230 01:18:59,068 --> 01:19:02,269 Stu? 1231 01:19:02,271 --> 01:19:04,472 I want to tell you how much I appreciate 1232 01:19:04,474 --> 01:19:08,409 your work on this case. 1233 01:19:08,411 --> 01:19:12,346 And I wish Kevin could have met you. 1234 01:19:15,017 --> 01:19:16,350 Thank you. 1235 01:19:16,352 --> 01:19:18,085 Thanks. 1236 01:19:33,236 --> 01:19:37,138 You have a difficult task today, 1237 01:19:37,140 --> 01:19:41,275 and I'd like to start off by thanking you 1238 01:19:41,277 --> 01:19:44,278 for your time and attention 1239 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,114 in this crucial case. 1240 01:19:49,285 --> 01:19:52,219 Your task today is difficult 1241 01:19:52,221 --> 01:19:55,022 because I'm asking you to believe 1242 01:19:55,024 --> 01:19:59,260 that the people you have been taught to trust 1243 01:19:59,262 --> 01:20:04,098 are the same people responsible for the death of Kevin Thacker. 1244 01:20:05,301 --> 01:20:08,502 Now, if you asked me a year ago, 1245 01:20:08,504 --> 01:20:11,305 if I believed something like this could be be possible, 1246 01:20:11,307 --> 01:20:15,075 I'd have had a hard time believing it too. 1247 01:20:16,412 --> 01:20:20,414 But I'm learning. 1248 01:20:20,416 --> 01:20:24,051 I'm learning that, inherently, we were put on this Earth 1249 01:20:24,053 --> 01:20:27,154 to protect one another. 1250 01:20:30,092 --> 01:20:32,293 There's an old saying: 1251 01:20:32,295 --> 01:20:36,330 "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." 1252 01:20:36,332 --> 01:20:38,365 We've all heard that statement. 1253 01:20:38,367 --> 01:20:41,068 And it trickles all the way down the power chain, 1254 01:20:41,070 --> 01:20:44,038 from a president to a meter maid. 1255 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,174 To make those who think they're above the law 1256 01:20:47,176 --> 01:20:50,911 be fearful of its consequences. 1257 01:20:50,913 --> 01:20:55,015 Checks and balances. 1258 01:20:55,017 --> 01:20:57,418 That sounds like a pretty good idea to me. 1259 01:20:57,420 --> 01:21:00,988 What do you think? I mean, there's history here. 1260 01:21:00,990 --> 01:21:03,057 Going back to the Middle Ages, 1261 01:21:03,059 --> 01:21:07,061 the Spanish Inquisition, police states, 1262 01:21:07,063 --> 01:21:10,231 and the creation of laws. 1263 01:21:10,233 --> 01:21:11,432 New laws had to be passed 1264 01:21:11,434 --> 01:21:15,236 to keep the abuse of power in check. 1265 01:21:15,238 --> 01:21:19,540 The Fourth Amendment protects us from search and seizure, 1266 01:21:19,542 --> 01:21:23,444 and the Fourteenth Amendment gives us our rights. 1267 01:21:23,446 --> 01:21:28,048 I never knew Kevin Thacker. 1268 01:21:28,050 --> 01:21:32,119 But I've gotten to know his parents pretty well. 1269 01:21:32,121 --> 01:21:36,223 And I've spoken personally to everybody involved in this case. 1270 01:21:36,225 --> 01:21:39,059 And, I learned that Kevin 1271 01:21:39,061 --> 01:21:42,396 was really no different than any of us. 1272 01:21:42,398 --> 01:21:44,298 He was a young man, 1273 01:21:44,300 --> 01:21:47,534 trying to find his way in life. 1274 01:21:47,536 --> 01:21:50,537 And Kevin, like us all, 1275 01:21:50,539 --> 01:21:53,607 had to face the consequences of his decisions. 1276 01:21:53,609 --> 01:21:56,443 And that is not an easy thing to do. 1277 01:21:58,514 --> 01:22:00,681 The consequence to Kevin's decisions 1278 01:22:00,683 --> 01:22:03,684 on the night of October 29th 1279 01:22:03,686 --> 01:22:06,253 cost him his life. 1280 01:22:07,323 --> 01:22:09,957 But if you look at the bigger picture, 1281 01:22:09,959 --> 01:22:13,060 it didn't have to. 1282 01:22:13,062 --> 01:22:15,229 It didn't have to. 1283 01:22:15,231 --> 01:22:17,965 Kevin died while under the supervision 1284 01:22:17,967 --> 01:22:21,201 of the Marshalltown Police Department. 1285 01:22:28,511 --> 01:22:33,213 There was not a soul in sight, except for Officer Dodge. 1286 01:22:33,215 --> 01:22:36,450 Now, you've heard the details of this case several times. 1287 01:22:36,452 --> 01:22:40,120 The standing broad jump, the intoxication, 1288 01:22:40,122 --> 01:22:44,625 the press release prior to notifying his own parents, 1289 01:22:44,627 --> 01:22:48,462 and the nature of the single injury 1290 01:22:48,464 --> 01:22:52,433 that is not consistent with a fall of 24 feet. 1291 01:22:54,570 --> 01:22:58,405 You are in the throws of a cover-up. 1292 01:23:01,477 --> 01:23:04,545 The corruption of power by those who believe 1293 01:23:04,547 --> 01:23:08,182 that they are above law. 1294 01:23:08,184 --> 01:23:11,051 But let me assure you, 1295 01:23:11,053 --> 01:23:14,488 no police department wants bad blood on their hands, 1296 01:23:14,490 --> 01:23:19,460 so you have to reconcile yourselves to one simple fact 1297 01:23:19,462 --> 01:23:22,730 regarding the police and the world that we live in. 1298 01:23:25,735 --> 01:23:30,037 These things do happen. 1299 01:23:30,039 --> 01:23:33,207 Lady Justice is blindfolded, 1300 01:23:33,209 --> 01:23:37,644 but that is to remind us that it is up to all of us 1301 01:23:37,646 --> 01:23:42,149 to keep our eyes wide open. 1302 01:23:44,553 --> 01:23:46,487 Thank you so much. 1303 01:24:19,155 --> 01:24:20,554 Stu? 1304 01:24:28,764 --> 01:24:30,264 Have you reached a verdict? 1305 01:24:30,266 --> 01:24:32,332 Yes, we have, Your Honor. 1306 01:24:38,074 --> 01:24:42,142 "We, the jury, find Officer John Dodge 1307 01:24:42,144 --> 01:24:44,845 "liable for the wrongful death of Kevin Thacker, 1308 01:24:44,847 --> 01:24:49,149 and award $980,000 to his estate." 1309 01:25:55,184 --> 01:25:56,250 Guess what? 1310 01:26:00,689 --> 01:26:02,456 Did somebody pass the bar? 1311 01:26:05,761 --> 01:26:06,760 Congratulations. 1312 01:26:06,762 --> 01:26:08,562 Thank you. 1313 01:26:08,564 --> 01:26:11,565 Might have a little competition on your hands. 1314 01:26:13,335 --> 01:26:15,402 Monica, I, uh... 1315 01:26:17,373 --> 01:26:20,174 I just have to thank you. 1316 01:26:20,176 --> 01:26:24,244 I couldn't have done this without you. 1317 01:26:24,246 --> 01:26:27,781 Oh, it's nothing. 1318 01:26:27,783 --> 01:26:29,683 Counselor. 1319 01:26:32,755 --> 01:26:35,222 Counselor. 1320 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,862 The unexamined life is not worth living. 1321 01:26:41,864 --> 01:26:44,565 My victory took nearly a year of my life, 1322 01:26:44,567 --> 01:26:46,867 of my family's life. 1323 01:26:46,869 --> 01:26:50,204 You begin to understand your own personal limits. 1324 01:26:50,206 --> 01:26:53,774 What you are willing to trade for that victory. 1325 01:26:53,776 --> 01:26:57,711 For the first time, I felt that I was good at my job. 1326 01:26:57,713 --> 01:26:59,780 You can still find my name in the Yellow Pages 1327 01:26:59,782 --> 01:27:01,815 along with everybody else. 1328 01:27:01,817 --> 01:27:04,918 A personal injury lawyer. 1329 01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,454 Sometimes I just have to smile. 1330 01:27:15,464 --> 01:27:17,497 There he is, the man of the hour. 1331 01:27:17,499 --> 01:27:19,182 I wish you would've called. 1332 01:27:19,183 --> 01:27:20,866 I'm just heading out for an off-site meeting. 1333 01:27:20,869 --> 01:27:22,936 I just wanted to grab a quick word with you. 1334 01:27:22,938 --> 01:27:25,405 Hey, congratulations on that victory. 1335 01:27:25,407 --> 01:27:28,909 Well, to be honest, sir, the real victory would be 1336 01:27:28,911 --> 01:27:31,578 to have the offenders punished in some way 1337 01:27:31,580 --> 01:27:34,514 other than the city's pocket book. 1338 01:27:34,516 --> 01:27:36,817 I wanted to offer my services free of charge 1339 01:27:36,819 --> 01:27:38,986 to help expedite that in any way possible. 1340 01:27:38,988 --> 01:27:41,355 Yeah, I think we have that covered. 1341 01:27:41,357 --> 01:27:43,957 Have you assigned an agent to investigate the case yet? 1342 01:27:43,959 --> 01:27:45,659 Yes, I have. 1343 01:27:45,661 --> 01:27:47,394 I thought about your very kind advice, 1344 01:27:47,396 --> 01:27:49,963 but I decided to put somebody on it 1345 01:27:49,965 --> 01:27:51,665 I'm a little more comfortable with. 1346 01:27:51,667 --> 01:27:54,334 Appearances and what not. I'm sure you understand. 1347 01:27:55,437 --> 01:27:56,870 Who did you assign to the case? 1348 01:27:56,872 --> 01:27:58,905 Ben Higgins. 1349 01:27:58,907 --> 01:28:02,376 Doesn't he do undercover work for Marshalltown cops? 1350 01:28:04,046 --> 01:28:06,780 Let me tell you something, okay? 1351 01:28:06,782 --> 01:28:10,951 You did a good job, nobody's denying that. 1352 01:28:10,953 --> 01:28:13,453 But you have to know when to walk away, 1353 01:28:13,455 --> 01:28:15,722 when to move on. 1354 01:28:15,724 --> 01:28:18,659 And very frankly, fucking with my department 1355 01:28:18,661 --> 01:28:21,762 doesn't help that along. 1356 01:28:48,991 --> 01:28:51,692 "Kevin Thacker and the Marshalltown Police, 1357 01:28:51,694 --> 01:28:55,796 "for ten counts against Mr. John Dodge. 1358 01:28:55,798 --> 01:28:57,998 Dismissed." 1359 01:29:01,370 --> 01:29:05,939 They're gonna be late. 1360 01:29:05,941 --> 01:29:07,674 Hello? 1361 01:29:07,675 --> 01:29:09,408 Beverly? It's Stu, hey. 1362 01:29:09,411 --> 01:29:11,011 Thomas there? 1363 01:29:11,013 --> 01:29:13,493 Yes, hi, Stu. Hold on. 1364 01:29:15,551 --> 01:29:16,616 Hi, Stu. 1365 01:29:16,618 --> 01:29:18,018 Hey. 1366 01:29:18,020 --> 01:29:22,456 Look, I'm really sorry to bother you on Christmas Eve. 1367 01:29:22,458 --> 01:29:24,424 We got some bad news. 1368 01:29:25,394 --> 01:29:26,760 Hallow threw it out. 1369 01:29:26,762 --> 01:29:27,828 Threw what out? 1370 01:29:31,066 --> 01:29:33,967 In civil cases, 1371 01:29:33,969 --> 01:29:35,736 the law gives the judge the power 1372 01:29:35,738 --> 01:29:37,471 to overturn the jury verdict. 1373 01:29:38,507 --> 01:29:39,840 Now that's bullshit. 1374 01:29:39,842 --> 01:29:41,942 What? 1375 01:29:41,944 --> 01:29:43,810 The judge threw the case out. 1376 01:29:49,952 --> 01:29:51,685 Well, what are we gonna do? 1377 01:29:51,687 --> 01:29:54,388 We appeal it to the State Supreme Court for a reversal 1378 01:29:54,390 --> 01:29:58,392 and get the original verdict reinstated. 1379 01:29:58,394 --> 01:29:59,860 I can't let it go. 1380 01:29:59,862 --> 01:30:02,396 I'm in this for the long haul. 1381 01:30:02,398 --> 01:30:05,098 I'm right there with you. 1382 01:30:05,100 --> 01:30:08,402 Listen, you have a good holiday, 1383 01:30:08,404 --> 01:30:11,405 and I'll talk to you after the new year. 1384 01:30:11,407 --> 01:30:13,073 God bless you. 1385 01:30:13,075 --> 01:30:14,875 Thank you. Thank you, Thomas. 1386 01:30:25,687 --> 01:30:30,190 ¶ I went walking down the road ¶ 1387 01:30:30,192 --> 01:30:34,561 ¶ The road for the blind ¶ 1388 01:30:34,563 --> 01:30:36,997 ¶ For a long, long time ¶ 1389 01:30:36,999 --> 01:30:40,066 ¶ I walked alone ¶ 1390 01:30:42,771 --> 01:30:45,839 ¶ Down that lonely road ¶ 1391 01:30:47,810 --> 01:30:51,745 ¶ No place to go ¶ 1392 01:30:51,747 --> 01:30:55,816 ¶ I was the sea as cold as I could be ¶ 1393 01:30:57,820 --> 01:31:01,588 ¶ I was anything but free ¶ 1394 01:31:01,590 --> 01:31:04,858 ¶ As far as I could see ¶ 1395 01:31:04,860 --> 01:31:08,094 ¶ I was anything but me ¶ 1396 01:31:12,067 --> 01:31:16,036 ¶ I was all on my own ¶ 1397 01:31:16,038 --> 01:31:19,606 ¶ Without myself ¶ 1398 01:31:22,177 --> 01:31:26,112 ¶ I found myself without a home ¶ 1399 01:31:26,114 --> 01:31:29,783 ¶ As hard as a stone ¶ 1400 01:31:29,785 --> 01:31:33,220 ¶ But truth be told ¶ 1401 01:31:33,222 --> 01:31:36,823 ¶ I was the storm ¶ 1402 01:31:39,828 --> 01:31:44,564 ¶ The storm of storms ¶ 1403 01:31:44,566 --> 01:31:47,701 ¶ So now you know ¶ 1404 01:31:47,703 --> 01:31:50,136 ¶ I was the sea ¶ 1405 01:31:50,138 --> 01:31:53,707 ¶ Cold as I could be ¶ 1406 01:31:53,709 --> 01:31:57,143 ¶ I was anything but free ¶ 1407 01:31:57,145 --> 01:32:00,514 ¶ As far as I could see ¶ 1408 01:32:00,516 --> 01:32:03,583 ¶ I was anything but me ¶ 1409 01:32:07,289 --> 01:32:10,757 ¶ I was all on my own ¶ 1410 01:32:11,894 --> 01:32:15,595 ¶ Without myself ¶ 1411 01:32:19,768 --> 01:32:23,003 ¶ Think about the way ¶ 1412 01:32:23,005 --> 01:32:26,940 ¶ You have to fight ¶ 1413 01:32:26,942 --> 01:32:30,176 ¶ When you're always right ¶ 1414 01:32:33,215 --> 01:32:35,882 ¶ Think about the rose ¶ 1415 01:32:35,884 --> 01:32:39,653 ¶ With too many thorns ¶ 1416 01:32:39,655 --> 01:32:44,558 ¶ No one will stand by your side ¶ 1417 01:32:49,665 --> 01:32:53,667 ¶ No one stands by your side ¶ 1418 01:32:53,669 --> 01:32:57,304 ¶ No one will stand by your side ¶ 1419 01:33:04,913 --> 01:33:09,082 ¶ I walked alone ¶ 1420 01:33:11,887 --> 01:33:15,822 ¶ I found myself without a home ¶ 1421 01:33:15,824 --> 01:33:20,293 ¶ As hard as a stone ¶ 1422 01:33:20,295 --> 01:33:23,163 ¶ But truth be told ¶ 1423 01:33:23,165 --> 01:33:26,232 ¶ I was the storm ¶ 1424 01:33:29,805 --> 01:33:34,074 ¶ The storm of storms ¶ 1425 01:33:34,076 --> 01:33:37,143 ¶ So now you know ¶ 1426 01:33:39,982 --> 01:33:43,049 ¶ Without my soul ¶ 1427 01:33:46,755 --> 01:33:50,790 ¶ All on my own ¶ 1428 01:33:51,994 --> 01:33:54,160 ¶ I was the sea ¶ 1429 01:33:54,162 --> 01:33:58,131 ¶ Cold as I could be ¶ 1430 01:33:58,133 --> 01:34:01,301 ¶ I was anything but free ¶ 1431 01:34:01,303 --> 01:34:04,404 ¶ As far as I could see ¶ 1432 01:34:04,406 --> 01:34:07,974 ¶ I was anything but me ¶ 1433 01:34:09,411 --> 01:34:11,277 ¶ And me alone ¶ 1434 01:34:11,279 --> 01:34:15,715 ¶ I was all on my own ¶ 1435 01:34:15,717 --> 01:34:19,753 ¶ Without my soul ¶ 1436 01:34:25,027 --> 01:34:29,963 ¶ I went walking down the road ¶ 1437 01:34:29,965 --> 01:34:34,134 ¶ The road for the blind ¶ 1438 01:34:34,136 --> 01:34:37,804 ¶ For a long, long time ¶105144

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