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(sizzling)
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(knob twisting)
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(clicking)
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LINDA:
No, rotate.
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(sizzling)
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You have to rotate it.
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Jesus Christ. May I?
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(clicking accelerates)
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(whispering indistinctly)
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(timer dings)
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Oh, thank you.
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(sizzling)
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That's Linda Tripp.
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(whispering indistinctly)
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-(lid creaks)
-Morning, Ron.
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(whirring)
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Hello, Ken, it's Linda Tripp.
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Again. It was alarming enough
to be asked to write a how-to
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manual for my own job,
but it has now been nearly
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one month since I requested
the materials I need to even
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attempt to start on this,
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and-and still
I've received nothing.
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(rattling, clunking)
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(sizzling)
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(quiet chatter, laughter)
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(speaking quietly)
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At a minimum,
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I will need my
correspondence books
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and all volumes of the archival
histories of JCOC 59 and 60.
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If anyone cast the slightest
glance at my cubicle,
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they would easily find
all of these on my desk there.
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BOB GOODMAN: Lucianne,
have you had any occasion to
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talk to Linda recently?
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I haven't talked to Linda
since, uh, uh, the day
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she wore the wire
to the Ritz-Carlton Hotel.
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Judge Starr asked her
not to be in touch.
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-With anyone?
-Right, with anyone.
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GOODMAN:
Are you surprised that only one
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out of ten Americans
view her favorably?
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No, not with how the White Houe
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and sundry sympathetic
people have
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framed the discussion
of Linda in such a negative wa.
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GOODMAN: Do you think it also
might be that people don't
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like people
who tape their friends?
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(whirring)
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*
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(sizzling)
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Rotate.
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(knocking on door)
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-Hello.
-Hi.
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This is all that there was.
Nothing from your office...
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Ugh.
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Oh, and I, uh...
I checked the machine.
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This lady named Jane
from The New Yorker,
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she left, like, four messages.
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-She's writing
an article about...
-Fabulous.
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There's absolutely nothing
I can do about that.
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Well, you could at least
call her back and talk to her.
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Allison, my attorney made it
very plain. It would be unwise.
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I would lose my immunity.
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Meanwhile,
the Clintons get to turn me
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into Joseph Goebbels.
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And the whole world
believes them.
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Mom, just come home already.
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-I'm sick of staying with Dad.
-(chuckles)
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Can't blame you on that.
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-(chuckles)
-Look, the reporters are gone
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from our street
and I go by every day.
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Well, you shouldn't.
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It's not safe.
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But there's no one
there anymore.
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-(scoffs)
-I mean, come on. Mom?
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This? This is not healthy.
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You have your grand jury thing,
you are under
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so much stress and you are
just sitting here alone
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all day, reading articles
about yourself.
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It's not just my testimony.
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I'm going to make a statement.
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What do you mean?
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I've decided,
once I have my freedom back,
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I'm going to give a speech.
I'm going to address the nation.
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What are you going to say?
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I'm simply
going to tell my story.
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*
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(TV newsman speaking quietly)
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It's not fair.
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He didn't get paraded
down to the courthouse.
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He got to testify at home.
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I'm not the president.
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Okay, no, really--
how do I look?
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I'm going for
"not a deranged whore."
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Okay, what do you
want me to say?
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I'm about to be questioned
by 23 strangers,
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and whoever they are,
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I'm sure they already hate me.
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PLATO (calls):
Are you ready?
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BILL (on TV):
We committed ourselves
to a comprehensive strategy
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to lower the crime rate and mae
America a safer place to live.
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-I gave him that tie.
-What?
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...has shown remarkable result.
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It's Zegna.
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I bought it at the Neiman's
in Mazza Gallerie.
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Does he know that she
is testifying today?
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I'm sure.
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Do you think he's trying
to send her a message?
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I mean, is that even legal?
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-Should I tell someone
about that?
-Mom.
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BILL:
We should resolve to do better.
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It's fine. I'm not going to
let it mess me up.
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REPORTER: She's here,
she's here! She's in that car!
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-WOMAN: Monica!
-MAN: Hey, Monica!
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(crowd clamoring)
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I can save you, Monica!
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(clamoring continues)
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You are going to hell!
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Monica, how are you feeling?
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(clamoring continues)
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Monica, are you in love
with the president?
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Feel ready?
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I'm just excited to see
the inside of a courtroom.
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You know, this is the first time
Starr's given me anything
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to do beyond secretarial work.
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He is old-fashioned.
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And look, Monica and I
are familiar,
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but Starr does have a point.
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It's better that a woman asks
some of these questions.
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-She's here.
-Okay.
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You can bring in the jury.
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-Are they already in there?
-Yes, they've just been seated.
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We'll be right out here,
anytime you need.
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EMMICK:
Good morning.
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You can have a seat right there.
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Can you raise your right hand?
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Oh, sure, yes.
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Do you, Monica S. Lewinsky,
swear to tell the truth,
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the whole truth and nothing but
the truth, so help you God?
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I do.
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(clears throat)
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Now, uh, Ms. Lewinsky,
what we're going to do
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is we're going to start off
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talking about your relationship
with the president.
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Do I not get
to learn people's names?
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(smacks lips)
Uh, the answer to that is no.
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Um, I know it seems kind of...
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Kind of awkward.
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It's important that the record
have no identifications.
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Oh, okay.
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Now, as we have discussed,
our office feels you'll be more
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comfortable getting certain
questions from Ms. Immergut,
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so I'm going to
turn it over to her now.
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Ms. Lewinsky,
can you tell the grand jury:
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when did you
start your relationship
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with the president
of the United States?
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November 15, 1995.
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Um, it was during the shutdown
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when I was assigned to
the West Wing.
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Can you tell the grand jury
what happened?
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Around... uh,
around 8:00 in the evening
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I was headed into
Mr. Stephanopoulos's office.
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The president... was in there.
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He invited me into
the next room and then...
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we kissed.
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IMMERGUT: Did anything else
happen between you?
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(sighs)
Um...
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And we were more...
physically intimate after that.
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And what do you mean by that?
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On that occasion, did you
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perform oral sex
on the president?
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God, this is embarrassing.
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I assure you
we won't be dwelling on this.
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Yes, I did.
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Jesus.
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Was there any other
physical intimacy performed?
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Everything up to oral sex.
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Now, to avoid you having
to go into each subsequent
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act of physical intimacy,
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we'll introduce what we
have marked as Exhibit ML-7.
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*
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IMMERGUT:
Did you provide all
the information listed
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on this chart?
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Yes, I did.
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This details each of
your sexual encounters
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with President Clinton.
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To the best of your knowledge,
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is it all accurate?
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Yes. I want to hide
under this table, but yes.
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Ms. Lewinsky, did your
relationship with the president
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have a... non-sexual component?
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-Yes, it did.
-Could you describe that
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for the grand jury?
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Sure, um...
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It was more than just...
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We enjoyed
being with each other.
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He'd-- we would tell jokes,
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talk about our childhoods,
current events.
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Sometimes we'd just...
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Um, we'd just be affectionate.
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He'd push my hair
out of my face.
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I think back on it and...
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he always made me smile
when I was with him.
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It was a lot of, uh...
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He was sunshine.
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-We okay for a break?
-Uh, yeah, ten minutes?
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Ten minutes, everyone.
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EMMICK:
Moving through your affidavit
here, let me ask you a question.
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Paragraph eight begins,
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"I have never had
a sexual relationship
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with the president."
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Is that true?
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-No.
-Okay,
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so the next logical
follow-up is:
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why were you willing to
say something false
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under penalty of perjury?
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Uh, I did not think my...
my private relationship
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was anyone's business.
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No one asked me to lie--
not the president, not anyone.
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I made that decision.
By myself.
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And I wish I hadn't,
to put it mildly.
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Thank you.
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Now, the grand jury
has some questions for you.
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-Okay.
-Did you and the president
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ever talk about
denying the relationship
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if anyone asked about it?
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I offered that on-on my own.
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I always told him
I would deny it.
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Why did you keep
that stained black dress?
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-It's a blue dress.
-Blue.
-Blue.
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Answer the question, please.
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Well, I have a lot of clothes,
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and so I don't usually
dry-clean things
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until I'm going
to wear them again.
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Like, I don't know
how you guys are,
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but you have clothes
to dry-clean
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and you kind of keep them
in your closet until you
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dry-clean them all together
when you need them.
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And now I feel like
I'm talking about
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dry-cleaning too much and
the process around dry-cleaning.
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Anyway, with that dress...
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I was going to wear it again
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and when I told Linda that,
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she told me
I looked heavy in it.
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Um, so I-I never
ended up wearing it again.
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Ergo I never cleaned it.
Does that answer your question?
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Ms. Lewinsky, did your mother
ever discourage
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your relationship
with the president?
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Oh, yes.
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Well, then, what kept it going?
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I fell in love.
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I have a question.
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You said you felt you were in
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a real relationship.
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A real connection.
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-Yes.
-With this married man.
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-Yes.
-It's been in the papers
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you had a relationship before.
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Similar to this, a married man.
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The way Kate and Andy Bleiler
made it seem on TV,
258
00:15:16,905 --> 00:15:19,508
it's-it's not entirely accurate.
259
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I-If that's the part
that you're, um...
260
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The only part I know is that
261
00:15:23,412 --> 00:15:25,914
he was a married man
and had a family.
262
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Yes.
263
00:15:27,682 --> 00:15:29,951
Like I know about the president.
264
00:15:31,253 --> 00:15:34,756
We're asked to trust
your version of events,
265
00:15:34,856 --> 00:15:37,292
but it seems you arrived
in D.C. and sought out
266
00:15:37,426 --> 00:15:41,596
a-an affair based on deception
and lies.
267
00:15:42,764 --> 00:15:45,134
Did you not believe that
this was wrong?
268
00:15:49,371 --> 00:15:51,140
My intention...
269
00:15:52,641 --> 00:15:55,144
...when I came to Washington
was to start over.
270
00:15:56,778 --> 00:15:58,613
I did not want
to have another affair
271
00:15:58,747 --> 00:16:00,649
with a married man
because it was horrible.
272
00:16:00,782 --> 00:16:03,052
And I don't know
why I did it again.
273
00:16:03,118 --> 00:16:06,121
I just know that I did it again.
274
00:16:06,288 --> 00:16:08,123
(sighs)
275
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And I know a lot of...
a lot of people think that
276
00:16:10,925 --> 00:16:12,994
that's wrong, and so do I.
277
00:16:13,128 --> 00:16:17,966
I know there's a lot of work
I need to do on myself.
278
00:16:19,968 --> 00:16:22,137
I just feel I had to ask
the question because
279
00:16:22,271 --> 00:16:23,638
a lot of us are confused.
280
00:16:23,738 --> 00:16:25,474
-I'm not.
-No need to be rude.
281
00:16:25,607 --> 00:16:27,309
Oh, it's okay.
282
00:16:27,409 --> 00:16:28,810
In a way, I really,
I really appreciate
283
00:16:28,943 --> 00:16:30,312
you asking me
where I'm coming from,
284
00:16:30,445 --> 00:16:33,148
'cause most people just assume
when it comes to me, so...
285
00:16:33,248 --> 00:16:36,651
Um, I really respect
your question
286
00:16:36,785 --> 00:16:38,653
and I-I appreciate
what you're saying.
287
00:16:39,654 --> 00:16:40,822
Whatever your name is.
288
00:16:40,989 --> 00:16:42,591
Oh, Ms. Lewinsky...
289
00:16:42,657 --> 00:16:45,327
Can you, can you guys
call me Monica?
290
00:16:45,427 --> 00:16:47,028
Are-are they allowed
to call me Monica?
291
00:16:47,162 --> 00:16:48,497
If you say so.
292
00:16:50,865 --> 00:16:52,167
Sure.
293
00:16:52,267 --> 00:16:55,170
I'm just 25. Please.
(chuckles)
294
00:16:55,270 --> 00:16:59,441
But you'll be Ms. Lewinsky
whether you're 25 or 28 or...
295
00:16:59,508 --> 00:17:02,511
-Not when I get married.
-(laughter)
296
00:17:02,611 --> 00:17:06,681
Monica, do you
still love the president?
297
00:17:12,554 --> 00:17:15,690
The day they held me
at the Ritz,
298
00:17:15,790 --> 00:17:19,394
they wanted me to turn on him.
299
00:17:19,528 --> 00:17:21,530
I said no.
300
00:17:21,630 --> 00:17:24,533
I-I did not want to do anything
to let him get hurt.
301
00:17:24,666 --> 00:17:26,535
And then when this all came out,
302
00:17:26,668 --> 00:17:28,703
the-the people that
worked for him,
303
00:17:28,837 --> 00:17:30,639
they trashed me.
304
00:17:30,739 --> 00:17:32,241
They claim that they haven't,
305
00:17:32,374 --> 00:17:35,377
but they call me a stalker.
They called me a liar.
306
00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:39,481
They say I'm inappropriate.
I mean, you all know. (sighs)
307
00:17:40,915 --> 00:17:43,218
And then he makes this speech.
308
00:17:44,486 --> 00:17:46,721
And he says...
309
00:17:46,855 --> 00:17:49,057
He makes it seem like...
310
00:17:49,158 --> 00:17:51,260
all that he cares about is
how unfair all of this
311
00:17:51,393 --> 00:17:53,428
-has been to him.
-Mm.
312
00:17:55,063 --> 00:17:58,333
So to-- sorry--
to answer your question, um...
313
00:18:01,270 --> 00:18:03,238
...it turns out he's not
who I thought he was.
314
00:18:03,372 --> 00:18:05,774
Monica, about that day
you just mentioned
315
00:18:05,907 --> 00:18:07,742
when you were approached
by Mr. Emmick
316
00:18:07,876 --> 00:18:10,679
and the OIC, can you tell us
a little bit about that?
317
00:18:10,779 --> 00:18:12,247
Oh, um...
318
00:18:12,381 --> 00:18:15,184
If I could ask,
uh, what areas are you
319
00:18:15,284 --> 00:18:16,685
wanting to get into?
320
00:18:16,785 --> 00:18:19,921
Because we're already
tight for time and, uh,
321
00:18:20,054 --> 00:18:21,423
well, you know, there were...
322
00:18:21,556 --> 00:18:23,458
many hours of activity.
323
00:18:23,592 --> 00:18:25,427
Just want to know
about that day.
324
00:18:26,628 --> 00:18:29,464
Okay, well, how about we
table that for now...
325
00:18:29,598 --> 00:18:32,767
-No, I want to hear about that.
-We should be able
to hear about that day.
326
00:18:32,867 --> 00:18:34,135
MALE JUROR:
Let her talk. Why not?
327
00:18:34,269 --> 00:18:36,605
OTHERS:
Let her talk.
328
00:18:36,738 --> 00:18:39,107
All right, go ahead.
329
00:18:40,442 --> 00:18:42,311
So, you were approached
in the food court
330
00:18:42,444 --> 00:18:44,613
at Pentagon City
by two FBI agents.
331
00:18:44,779 --> 00:18:46,948
Linda Tripp had lied
to get you there. Is that right?
332
00:18:47,048 --> 00:18:48,450
Uh, yes.
333
00:18:48,617 --> 00:18:51,320
And then they proceeded
to take you up to a hotel room.
334
00:18:51,453 --> 00:18:53,288
Why didn't you
ask for your lawyer?
335
00:18:54,623 --> 00:18:55,990
I did.
336
00:18:57,626 --> 00:19:00,128
But they told me
I was in trouble and that
337
00:19:00,295 --> 00:19:02,964
I wouldn't be able to help
myself with my attorney present,
338
00:19:03,064 --> 00:19:04,966
so I just did what they said.
339
00:19:05,133 --> 00:19:08,136
It was the FBI
and I was really scared.
340
00:19:08,237 --> 00:19:10,071
What happened
when you got up there?
341
00:19:17,145 --> 00:19:20,415
(sighs) S-Sorry.
342
00:19:21,483 --> 00:19:24,653
Would it be okay--
uh, can you step out?
343
00:19:27,188 --> 00:19:30,158
Karin can take over
from here, right?
344
00:19:30,259 --> 00:19:32,361
Karin can take over.
345
00:19:32,494 --> 00:19:33,828
Karin can stay.
346
00:19:37,999 --> 00:19:39,834
(sighs)
347
00:19:43,037 --> 00:19:45,006
(whispers indistinctly)
348
00:19:47,008 --> 00:19:49,844
-(clears throat)
-(door opens)
349
00:19:49,944 --> 00:19:51,680
EMMICK:
Thank you.
350
00:20:00,021 --> 00:20:03,458
They said if I called my lawyer,
I wouldn't be offered immunity.
351
00:20:03,525 --> 00:20:05,860
Did you feel threatened by that?
352
00:20:06,795 --> 00:20:09,197
Did they offer you a chance
to call another attorney?
353
00:20:09,298 --> 00:20:10,899
They suggested one.
354
00:20:11,032 --> 00:20:12,867
FEMALE JUROR:
Did you take them up on that?
355
00:20:13,001 --> 00:20:15,036
-No.
-Why not?
356
00:20:15,136 --> 00:20:17,906
-Because I didn't trust them.
-Hmm.
357
00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:20,475
It sounds as though they
were actively discouraging you
358
00:20:20,575 --> 00:20:22,411
from talking to an attorney.
359
00:20:22,544 --> 00:20:24,379
Well, from talking
to Frank Carter.
360
00:20:24,479 --> 00:20:27,316
Yes, Frank Carter,
my only attorney.
361
00:20:28,983 --> 00:20:30,719
Are we due for
a ten-minute break?
362
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,987
No, ma'am.
363
00:20:33,087 --> 00:20:35,156
(footsteps approaching)
364
00:20:45,099 --> 00:20:48,002
It lasted about 12 hours
in total.
365
00:20:48,069 --> 00:20:50,839
FEMALE JUROR (softly):
My God. Wow.
366
00:20:50,939 --> 00:20:53,842
And they told me over
and over that I was free
367
00:20:53,942 --> 00:20:55,610
to leave, but I didn't.
368
00:20:58,413 --> 00:21:00,449
I didn't understand
because they also said
369
00:21:00,582 --> 00:21:03,084
they were prepared
to indict me and I could
370
00:21:03,184 --> 00:21:06,120
spend up to 28 years in prison
and that they would
371
00:21:06,254 --> 00:21:10,258
prosecute my mother if I didn't
help them, you know? So...
372
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,462
I was, uh, confused and, uh...
373
00:21:13,595 --> 00:21:15,096
FEMALE JUROR:
Were you angry?
374
00:21:18,266 --> 00:21:21,102
(sniffles)
Yes, mostly at myself.
375
00:21:21,202 --> 00:21:23,271
For ending up in this situation.
376
00:21:25,974 --> 00:21:28,810
And for putting the president
at risk.
377
00:21:28,943 --> 00:21:30,211
And...
378
00:21:32,381 --> 00:21:36,284
And-and for, uh,
doing this to my family.
379
00:21:36,418 --> 00:21:39,888
Monica, they set you in a trap.
380
00:21:39,954 --> 00:21:41,890
-Mm-hmm.
-It's what they do.
381
00:21:41,956 --> 00:21:43,958
Monica, is there anything else
you'd like to add
382
00:21:44,058 --> 00:21:45,293
to your testimony?
383
00:21:45,394 --> 00:21:47,496
We want to give you
the fullest opportunity.
384
00:21:48,497 --> 00:21:50,565
Um...
385
00:21:50,632 --> 00:21:53,067
Uh...
386
00:21:53,134 --> 00:21:54,903
(sighs)
387
00:21:54,969 --> 00:21:59,641
I guess I want to say
that no one asked me to lie.
388
00:21:59,808 --> 00:22:02,511
And I was never
promised a job for my silence.
389
00:22:03,978 --> 00:22:05,480
Mostly I'm sorry.
390
00:22:06,981 --> 00:22:09,317
I'm really sorry for
everything that happened.
391
00:22:13,822 --> 00:22:16,324
-And I hate Linda Tripp.
-(laughter)
392
00:22:16,425 --> 00:22:18,026
FEMALE JUROR:
I know that's right.
393
00:22:18,159 --> 00:22:20,328
-FEMALE JUROR 2: Forget her.
-(others assenting)
394
00:22:20,495 --> 00:22:24,165
-What goes around comes around.
-FEMALE JUROR 3: It does.
395
00:22:33,875 --> 00:22:35,510
I am going to go in
and remove some
396
00:22:35,610 --> 00:22:38,179
extra cartilage
and bone right here.
397
00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:40,348
Then I'm going to go ahead
and pull the skin
398
00:22:40,449 --> 00:22:42,684
off of the issue so I can
chisel that bump down.
399
00:22:42,851 --> 00:22:46,020
Then we fracture it
so that we can close the roof,
400
00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,022
much the same way
you would on a house.
401
00:22:48,189 --> 00:22:49,190
Does that make sense?
402
00:22:49,357 --> 00:22:51,025
Um...
403
00:22:51,125 --> 00:22:52,461
Yeah.
404
00:22:52,527 --> 00:22:55,196
Dr. Loeb does wonderful work.
405
00:22:55,363 --> 00:22:57,031
Oh, thanks.
Okay, I'm going to go ahead
406
00:22:57,165 --> 00:22:59,367
and step out
and do my final prep.
407
00:22:59,501 --> 00:23:01,302
I'll see you in there.
408
00:23:01,369 --> 00:23:03,137
Okay.
409
00:23:04,539 --> 00:23:06,708
(exhales)
410
00:23:06,808 --> 00:23:09,911
-Where's Steve?
-Oh, he didn't want to come.
411
00:23:10,044 --> 00:23:13,982
Is he still in a funk
about losing his job?
412
00:23:14,048 --> 00:23:15,884
Gosh, yes, he's...
413
00:23:16,017 --> 00:23:19,888
blaming my case and says
the airline fired him because of
414
00:23:19,988 --> 00:23:22,056
pressure from Clinton,
but, Susie,
415
00:23:22,190 --> 00:23:25,159
he wouldn't work the hours
that they wanted him to.
416
00:23:25,226 --> 00:23:26,928
I think that's all that it is.
417
00:23:27,061 --> 00:23:28,497
Well, did you tell him that?
418
00:23:29,998 --> 00:23:32,066
He won't listen to me.
(scoffs)
419
00:23:32,166 --> 00:23:34,736
(takes deep breath)
420
00:23:34,836 --> 00:23:37,105
Hey. You nervous?
421
00:23:37,238 --> 00:23:40,108
I'm just glad that
people'll stop making fun
422
00:23:40,241 --> 00:23:41,943
of my big ol' awful nose.
423
00:23:50,785 --> 00:23:52,420
(engine turns off)
424
00:23:52,521 --> 00:23:53,688
(gate creaks)
425
00:24:31,793 --> 00:24:33,795
*
426
00:24:54,683 --> 00:24:57,318
*
427
00:25:07,495 --> 00:25:09,497
-(playing lively tune)
-(rhythmic clapping)
428
00:25:22,176 --> 00:25:24,846
(cheering)
429
00:25:27,782 --> 00:25:31,953
HILLARY:
I'm told there is a Russian
children's verse that says,
430
00:25:32,020 --> 00:25:35,523
"What do we plant
when we plant a new wood?
431
00:25:35,624 --> 00:25:39,527
Boats in which waves
can safely be withstood."
432
00:25:39,628 --> 00:25:43,031
In both our nations,
music education is that
433
00:25:43,131 --> 00:25:45,366
sturdy boat that lifts us up,
434
00:25:45,499 --> 00:25:49,203
that carries our unique cultural
treasures into the future.
435
00:25:49,337 --> 00:25:52,807
And now, it is my honor to
introduce to you Bill Clinton,
436
00:25:52,907 --> 00:25:56,244
-president of the United States.
-(applause)
437
00:26:09,090 --> 00:26:11,760
Mr. President, Mr. Bowles
said you wanted this list...
438
00:26:11,893 --> 00:26:14,095
I know what it is. Thanks.
439
00:26:22,236 --> 00:26:24,572
Betty, would you ask
the first lady to come see me?
440
00:26:24,673 --> 00:26:26,240
BETTY:
Right away, sir.
441
00:26:46,094 --> 00:26:47,595
(knocking on door)
442
00:26:50,131 --> 00:26:51,532
You wanted to see me?
443
00:26:51,632 --> 00:26:54,035
I wanted to say something.
444
00:26:58,773 --> 00:26:59,974
(door closes)
445
00:27:04,813 --> 00:27:08,116
25 years, you're the one
opinion I give a shit about.
446
00:27:09,550 --> 00:27:13,287
Most men of our age, they...
they find their wives so dull
447
00:27:13,454 --> 00:27:16,390
they cringe
when she talks at dinner.
448
00:27:16,457 --> 00:27:18,727
I pity those men.
449
00:27:18,793 --> 00:27:21,129
They don't have what I do.
450
00:27:25,633 --> 00:27:29,137
I gave in to
a disgusting impulse.
451
00:27:29,270 --> 00:27:31,906
Because I didn't know
how to walk down the hall
452
00:27:31,973 --> 00:27:34,408
and say to my best friend
453
00:27:34,475 --> 00:27:36,745
that this job is lonely
454
00:27:36,811 --> 00:27:38,980
and I'm worn to the bone...
455
00:27:40,181 --> 00:27:42,583
...and I'm dead inside
half the time.
456
00:27:44,485 --> 00:27:46,154
There's been hell raining
down on us
457
00:27:46,254 --> 00:27:48,656
from the day we walked
into this place.
458
00:27:48,757 --> 00:27:50,992
You know, every move
we make-- the right,
459
00:27:51,092 --> 00:27:53,327
the press, they seize,
attack and drag us
460
00:27:53,427 --> 00:27:55,997
through the streets
over nothing.
461
00:27:56,097 --> 00:27:59,667
And I know it's stupid, but when
Newt shuts down the government,
462
00:27:59,768 --> 00:28:02,170
and Starr has slithered
into our lives
463
00:28:02,270 --> 00:28:05,006
to look for malfeasance
in every line of every receipt
464
00:28:05,173 --> 00:28:07,175
of every piddly thing
we've ever bought,
465
00:28:07,275 --> 00:28:09,844
I thought I had to be
strong for us.
466
00:28:10,011 --> 00:28:12,346
And instead, I fucked it all up.
467
00:28:14,849 --> 00:28:16,851
*
468
00:28:21,856 --> 00:28:24,192
When it first came out,
I was so ashamed I wanted to
469
00:28:24,358 --> 00:28:26,294
crawl in a hole and disappear.
470
00:28:29,197 --> 00:28:31,866
I couldn't bear what I'd done
to you and Chelsea.
471
00:28:33,634 --> 00:28:36,704
I couldn't face telling you,
I just couldn't.
472
00:28:38,873 --> 00:28:41,475
So I made it worse and I lied.
473
00:28:50,151 --> 00:28:54,322
Everything good in my life
comes out of us together.
474
00:28:58,259 --> 00:29:00,829
I don't know who I am
without you.
475
00:29:02,096 --> 00:29:05,066
I know you said you
didn't care why it happened.
476
00:29:05,199 --> 00:29:07,401
But I wanted you to know.
477
00:29:13,341 --> 00:29:14,608
Is that all?
478
00:29:14,742 --> 00:29:16,277
No.
479
00:29:16,410 --> 00:29:17,912
I love you.
480
00:29:18,947 --> 00:29:20,614
That's all.
481
00:29:30,124 --> 00:29:31,459
(door closes)
482
00:29:38,299 --> 00:29:40,468
-Mom?
-Busy.
483
00:29:40,601 --> 00:29:41,870
There's all this stuff in here.
484
00:29:41,970 --> 00:29:43,137
I didn't know that
you were arrested.
485
00:29:43,271 --> 00:29:44,772
It was a teen prank.
486
00:29:44,906 --> 00:29:46,941
Some boys put things in
my purse as a joke.
487
00:29:47,075 --> 00:29:48,642
Okay, but this part
about your dad--
488
00:29:48,776 --> 00:29:50,644
I mean, you don't talk about him
my entire life and I have
489
00:29:50,778 --> 00:29:53,447
no idea why until someone
writes an article about it.
490
00:30:05,793 --> 00:30:07,628
Oh, my God.
491
00:30:13,501 --> 00:30:15,469
Jesus Christ.
492
00:30:18,472 --> 00:30:20,641
-Unbelievable.
-What?
493
00:30:20,808 --> 00:30:22,476
None of this
is what I asked for.
494
00:30:22,576 --> 00:30:25,313
They know what I need
to do my job and they...
495
00:30:25,446 --> 00:30:28,482
they send me a completely
useless pile of paper.
496
00:30:29,817 --> 00:30:31,752
And look at the shape it's in.
497
00:30:35,023 --> 00:30:36,824
(scoffs softly)
498
00:30:39,027 --> 00:30:40,161
This is a message.
499
00:30:40,328 --> 00:30:43,331
Could just be one
of the lazier secretaries.
500
00:30:45,666 --> 00:30:47,001
Bring my purse.
501
00:30:52,340 --> 00:30:54,542
(quiet chatter)
502
00:30:54,675 --> 00:30:57,511
-Oh, my God.
-Linda,
503
00:30:57,611 --> 00:30:59,213
I didn't know
you were coming in.
504
00:30:59,347 --> 00:31:01,115
I need to see Ken.
505
00:31:09,690 --> 00:31:12,193
-Excuse me.
-I work here.
506
00:31:12,293 --> 00:31:13,527
Uh...
507
00:31:15,629 --> 00:31:18,532
No, I have to go.
Okay, it's just-- Leave us.
508
00:31:18,666 --> 00:31:21,202
Linda, you know you
cannot just...
509
00:31:21,302 --> 00:31:22,870
Did you oversee
and approve this shipment?
510
00:31:23,004 --> 00:31:24,405
-What?
-It's a simple question.
511
00:31:24,538 --> 00:31:27,808
Did you oversee
and approve this shipment?
512
00:31:27,908 --> 00:31:30,311
-I can't say that I have any...
-Because I asked
for the basic materials
513
00:31:30,411 --> 00:31:32,913
I need to do my job
and what I got
514
00:31:33,047 --> 00:31:35,649
was random printed
email traffic.
515
00:31:35,749 --> 00:31:39,653
Some JCOC participant list
thrown violently into a box.
516
00:31:39,753 --> 00:31:42,390
-Linda.
-This is chilling.
517
00:31:42,523 --> 00:31:46,094
This is veiled hostility
from my colleagues,
518
00:31:46,227 --> 00:31:47,428
simply because
I'm a cooperating witness
519
00:31:47,561 --> 00:31:48,997
in a federal investigation.
520
00:31:49,097 --> 00:31:50,831
I'm sure it was
just an honest mistake.
521
00:31:50,931 --> 00:31:53,501
-We are past that, Ken.
-Listen.
522
00:31:53,567 --> 00:31:55,569
Just write down exactly
what you need
523
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:57,938
-and then we...
-What I need
524
00:31:58,072 --> 00:32:01,275
is to come here like normal
and do my work.
525
00:32:01,409 --> 00:32:03,611
And I do not doubt that
you'll be able to do that soon,
526
00:32:03,744 --> 00:32:04,678
and that things
will settle down,
527
00:32:04,778 --> 00:32:06,914
but DOD just opened this
investigation
528
00:32:07,015 --> 00:32:08,249
-and until we...
-What?
529
00:32:09,450 --> 00:32:10,618
What investigation?
530
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,354
(clears throat softly)
531
00:32:14,622 --> 00:32:16,257
They'll be contacting you.
532
00:32:16,390 --> 00:32:17,758
When you were hired,
533
00:32:17,891 --> 00:32:22,096
you affirmed on your DD 398 that
you had never been arrested.
534
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:23,597
Now, The New Yorker
has come out...
535
00:32:23,731 --> 00:32:25,099
It was a teen prank!
536
00:32:25,233 --> 00:32:27,301
-Linda...
-On me!
537
00:32:29,303 --> 00:32:30,771
The charges were dropped.
538
00:32:30,904 --> 00:32:34,308
Linda, you cannot lie
to the Department of Defense
539
00:32:34,442 --> 00:32:36,144
on a security clearance form.
540
00:32:36,277 --> 00:32:38,546
That is a serious crime.
541
00:32:39,613 --> 00:32:41,115
I see.
542
00:32:43,151 --> 00:32:44,452
I see now.
543
00:32:45,453 --> 00:32:46,620
You see what?
544
00:32:46,754 --> 00:32:49,457
They're really coming after me.
545
00:32:49,557 --> 00:32:51,625
Okay, well...
546
00:32:57,498 --> 00:32:59,733
(knocking on door)
547
00:33:07,007 --> 00:33:09,310
Good afternoon, ma'am.
I'm Special Agent Irons
548
00:33:09,443 --> 00:33:11,145
with the Federal Bureau
of Investigation.
549
00:33:11,312 --> 00:33:12,980
This is Special Agent Fallon.
550
00:33:13,081 --> 00:33:15,316
FALLON: Do you have
a moment to speak with us?
551
00:33:19,987 --> 00:33:21,322
Thank you, ma'am.
552
00:33:21,422 --> 00:33:22,823
We're detailed with the Office
553
00:33:22,923 --> 00:33:24,825
of Independent Counsel
Kenneth Starr.
554
00:33:24,925 --> 00:33:26,827
Perhaps you've seen
Judge Starr on the news.
555
00:33:26,927 --> 00:33:29,530
Well, he's finishing up
his investigation,
556
00:33:29,663 --> 00:33:31,499
preparing to
make a report to Congress.
557
00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:33,501
We're just here following up
on some threads.
558
00:33:33,667 --> 00:33:36,204
Ma'am, as you may know,
the president and others
559
00:33:36,337 --> 00:33:38,706
are in legal peril because
of false affidavits
560
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:40,508
filed in the Paula Jones
lawsuit.
561
00:33:40,674 --> 00:33:42,876
We're just dotting our i's,
Ms. Broaddrick. You understand.
562
00:33:43,010 --> 00:33:46,347
FALLON:
Now, here is
your Jones affidavit.
563
00:33:46,514 --> 00:33:48,516
You swore this
a few months back.
564
00:33:48,616 --> 00:33:50,518
Here, you state that
President Bill Clinton
565
00:33:50,684 --> 00:33:53,687
never made any unwanted
sexual advances toward you.
566
00:33:53,787 --> 00:33:57,291
Ma'am, were you being truthful
when you signed your name
567
00:33:57,358 --> 00:33:59,026
to this statement?
568
00:34:12,906 --> 00:34:14,242
-(door closes)
-PAULA: I don't...
569
00:34:14,375 --> 00:34:15,876
I don't get it.
570
00:34:17,211 --> 00:34:19,147
Okay. Thank you. Bye.
571
00:34:20,148 --> 00:34:22,250
(sighs)
How was your audition?
572
00:34:22,383 --> 00:34:24,152
It sucked.
573
00:34:24,252 --> 00:34:28,389
-Who was that?
-The lawyers. They said...
574
00:34:29,823 --> 00:34:31,592
...the judge did
a summary judgment.
575
00:34:31,725 --> 00:34:34,228
Mm. What is that?
576
00:34:34,328 --> 00:34:36,330
It's... it's bad.
577
00:34:36,397 --> 00:34:40,234
It means that
she threw out the case.
578
00:34:41,335 --> 00:34:42,903
The Supreme Court said
you had a case.
579
00:34:43,036 --> 00:34:46,106
But now the judge
says I don't, so I...
580
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:47,841
I guess it's over.
581
00:34:47,941 --> 00:34:51,345
What? What-what do we get?
How much money we get?
582
00:34:51,445 --> 00:34:53,781
Well, that's what
I'm saying. Um...
583
00:34:53,914 --> 00:34:56,284
It's nothing.
We get nothing.
584
00:34:56,417 --> 00:34:57,918
-The fuck?!
-I know.
585
00:34:58,051 --> 00:35:00,120
-I know, I need to call Susie.
-Oh, yeah, great idea.
586
00:35:00,254 --> 00:35:02,290
Smart. She always
makes things better.
587
00:35:02,423 --> 00:35:04,625
-Steve, don't.
-No, no, we need to go back
588
00:35:04,758 --> 00:35:05,793
and we need to
take Clinton's deal.
589
00:35:05,926 --> 00:35:07,094
I wanted that money.
590
00:35:07,228 --> 00:35:10,931
What?
No, no, but you and Susie
591
00:35:11,031 --> 00:35:13,100
told me that
I shouldn't take it, so...
592
00:35:13,234 --> 00:35:16,470
I don't wanna hear
your fucking voice.
593
00:35:16,604 --> 00:35:18,606
Wait, but that is not fair
because I-- gosh,
594
00:35:18,739 --> 00:35:21,609
I only ever started doing this
'cause you wanted me to.
595
00:35:21,709 --> 00:35:24,445
I-I did... I did all this
for you.
596
00:35:24,578 --> 00:35:27,147
You sound pretty stupid
right now with your face
597
00:35:27,281 --> 00:35:29,450
all broken from a nose job.
598
00:35:29,550 --> 00:35:32,119
Because I got a bad nose,
599
00:35:32,220 --> 00:35:34,322
which I didn't even know I had
600
00:35:34,455 --> 00:35:36,957
until you made me do this
and be on TV
601
00:35:37,124 --> 00:35:40,461
and people laughed at me, but...
602
00:35:40,561 --> 00:35:43,130
but I did it, like I always
do what you say.
603
00:35:43,264 --> 00:35:44,998
You think I liked
moving to California,
604
00:35:45,132 --> 00:35:46,467
where I've never seen
so many people
605
00:35:46,567 --> 00:35:48,135
who smile while they hate you
606
00:35:48,269 --> 00:35:49,970
and it makes my skin
fucking crawl
607
00:35:50,103 --> 00:35:52,306
and it's sunny all day
and it's...
608
00:35:52,473 --> 00:35:54,141
You think it'll be better
if we move home,
609
00:35:54,242 --> 00:35:56,810
where everyone knows exactly
who you are and what you did?
610
00:35:56,977 --> 00:35:58,646
What do you mean, "what I did"?
611
00:36:02,316 --> 00:36:03,817
What do you mean?
612
00:36:06,153 --> 00:36:09,657
Say it. Say it, Steve.
613
00:36:12,860 --> 00:36:14,662
You think I did it.
614
00:36:14,762 --> 00:36:17,665
You think I went up there
and I gave him a blow job.
615
00:36:21,369 --> 00:36:23,837
Yeah, okay, okay.
616
00:36:25,205 --> 00:36:28,509
I can take this from Jay Leno
617
00:36:28,609 --> 00:36:33,046
and people laughing at me
at Vons, but...
618
00:36:33,180 --> 00:36:35,015
from you?
619
00:36:35,115 --> 00:36:37,017
You're supposed to believe me!
620
00:36:37,117 --> 00:36:41,188
We are fighting to show people
that he did me wrong!
621
00:36:41,355 --> 00:36:43,857
And... (laughing)
622
00:36:43,957 --> 00:36:45,859
And in reality,
all-all this is--
623
00:36:45,959 --> 00:36:48,362
all the press conferences
and all the magazines
624
00:36:48,496 --> 00:36:50,364
and-and the TV shows
625
00:36:50,498 --> 00:36:53,467
and the lawyers and more lawyers
and more lawyers--
626
00:36:53,567 --> 00:36:57,305
it's just me trying to get you
to believe me!
627
00:36:57,371 --> 00:37:02,543
Which we both know you
never did, so you know what?
628
00:37:02,676 --> 00:37:05,646
If you want to say I'm stupid,
well, fuck you!
629
00:37:05,713 --> 00:37:08,316
But most of all,
if I'm stupid on one thing,
630
00:37:08,382 --> 00:37:09,883
it was believing that
you were any more
631
00:37:10,017 --> 00:37:13,321
than a chickenshit asshole
who cared about me at all!
632
00:37:15,489 --> 00:37:17,157
(panting through nose)
633
00:37:25,499 --> 00:37:28,068
Oh, you think
I'm gonna ask you to stay?!
634
00:37:31,271 --> 00:37:32,406
(door slams)
635
00:37:35,576 --> 00:37:37,911
EMMICK:
Okay, it's pretty simple.
636
00:37:38,011 --> 00:37:40,280
You listen to all of
these tapes. After each one,
637
00:37:40,414 --> 00:37:42,616
you sign the tape,
as well as sign
638
00:37:42,750 --> 00:37:43,951
and date those documents,
639
00:37:44,084 --> 00:37:47,254
confirming that the voices
are you and Linda Tripp.
640
00:37:47,355 --> 00:37:48,756
I have to listen
to all of these?
641
00:37:48,889 --> 00:37:50,591
They're all evidence.
642
00:37:50,691 --> 00:37:52,760
Karin here will sit in with you.
643
00:37:52,860 --> 00:37:54,962
I would, but I gotta get
to the courthouse.
644
00:37:55,095 --> 00:37:57,365
What's happening
at the courthouse?
645
00:38:01,602 --> 00:38:04,104
FOREWOMAN:
Do you, Linda R. Tripp,
swear to tell the truth,
646
00:38:04,237 --> 00:38:06,807
the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth, so help you God?
647
00:38:06,940 --> 00:38:08,308
I do.
648
00:38:12,145 --> 00:38:13,947
You ready?
649
00:38:17,551 --> 00:38:19,953
-MONICA: Hi.
-LINDA: Hi.
650
00:38:21,288 --> 00:38:22,456
How are you?
651
00:38:24,124 --> 00:38:27,461
EMMICK:
Uh, now, with
Mr. Wisenberg's assistance,
652
00:38:27,561 --> 00:38:29,296
I'd like to read to you
653
00:38:29,463 --> 00:38:32,800
what the grand jury
has come to know as Tape 11.
654
00:38:34,568 --> 00:38:36,904
You have a, uh,
transcript there.
655
00:38:36,970 --> 00:38:38,672
(clears throat)
Okay.
656
00:38:40,641 --> 00:38:42,810
"Linda, I got the creep a tie.
657
00:38:42,976 --> 00:38:44,978
It was 20 bucks at Marshalls."
658
00:38:45,145 --> 00:38:46,980
"Oh, good, who makes it?"
659
00:38:47,147 --> 00:38:49,182
"Calvin Klein.
It's gorgeous, Linda."
660
00:38:49,316 --> 00:38:51,485
"Yeah, Marshalls generally,
661
00:38:51,619 --> 00:38:53,521
every now and then,
you can hit."
662
00:38:53,654 --> 00:38:56,657
EMMICK:
"It's really different from all
the other ones I've given him.
663
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:58,659
"I'm putting a note with it.
664
00:38:58,759 --> 00:39:00,093
I wrote such a funny card
to him."
665
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,495
WISENBERG:
Linda Tripp laughs.
666
00:39:01,595 --> 00:39:02,830
-(Linda laughs)
-MONICA: I said, "This tie will
667
00:39:02,996 --> 00:39:05,198
"look good with either
a taupe or navy suit
668
00:39:05,332 --> 00:39:06,700
"and a white
or a light blue shirt.
669
00:39:06,834 --> 00:39:09,437
-That is, if you like it."
-LINDA: Mm-hmm.
670
00:39:09,503 --> 00:39:11,038
"And then do you know
what I wrote?
671
00:39:11,171 --> 00:39:15,008
"I said, 'And just think,
now you can pay homage to me
672
00:39:15,175 --> 00:39:18,278
"if you want by having
a work week in which you
673
00:39:18,345 --> 00:39:20,113
wear one of my ties every day.'"
674
00:39:20,180 --> 00:39:21,449
Linda Tripp laughs.
675
00:39:21,515 --> 00:39:23,383
Ms. Lewinsky laughs.
676
00:39:23,517 --> 00:39:25,453
-(Monica laughs)
-LINDA: 'Cause this
is the fifth one, right?
677
00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:27,287
You have to give him one
for the weekend days, too.
678
00:39:27,354 --> 00:39:30,691
"That's what I want.
That's my fantasy.
679
00:39:30,791 --> 00:39:34,361
To have the creep
wear one of my ties every day."
680
00:39:35,362 --> 00:39:39,232
Um, Ms. Tripp,
who was the creep?
681
00:39:39,366 --> 00:39:40,868
(chuckles softly)
682
00:39:43,036 --> 00:39:45,473
The president
of the United States.
683
00:39:45,539 --> 00:39:49,042
EMMICK:
Was this typical
of the sort of subject
684
00:39:49,142 --> 00:39:50,878
you and Monica Lewinsky
would discuss?
685
00:39:51,011 --> 00:39:53,914
Yes, we almost
never talked about anything
686
00:39:54,047 --> 00:39:56,316
aside from the president.
(scoffs)
687
00:39:56,383 --> 00:39:58,886
She shared a lot of intimate
details with you, did she not?
688
00:40:01,054 --> 00:40:02,322
She did.
689
00:40:02,389 --> 00:40:03,591
MONICA (crying):
I was upset before,
690
00:40:03,724 --> 00:40:05,559
but not like I am now.
691
00:40:05,659 --> 00:40:07,060
LINDA:
Oh, man.
692
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,996
MONICA:
It's too much for one person.
693
00:40:09,096 --> 00:40:11,499
LINDA:
Oh, it is too much
for one person.
694
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:12,566
Yes, it is.
695
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:15,268
EMMICK:
Moving into November 1997.
696
00:40:15,402 --> 00:40:19,439
Is it fair to say that
Ms. Lewinsky was increasingly
697
00:40:19,573 --> 00:40:21,775
distraught
on her calls with you?
698
00:40:21,909 --> 00:40:25,613
Yes, she was obsessed with
the president's lack of contact.
699
00:40:25,746 --> 00:40:29,449
And what typically would happen
when she tried to make contact?
700
00:40:29,583 --> 00:40:32,520
She would call Betty Currie
and then call me
701
00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:33,954
to tell me she called Betty.
702
00:40:34,087 --> 00:40:35,422
And then, if Betty hadn't
gotten back to her
703
00:40:35,523 --> 00:40:37,525
within an hour,
she would get angry
704
00:40:37,625 --> 00:40:40,027
and call Betty again,
then call me again.
705
00:40:40,127 --> 00:40:43,463
Crescendoing to some sort
of nuclear outburst.
706
00:40:43,597 --> 00:40:45,298
Okay, now I'd like to move...
707
00:40:45,432 --> 00:40:48,035
Sorry, can I ask a question?
708
00:40:51,939 --> 00:40:54,274
Did you want Monica
to stop calling you?
709
00:40:54,407 --> 00:40:56,476
Yes.
710
00:40:56,610 --> 00:41:00,480
Her behavior became volatile.
Very erratic.
711
00:41:00,614 --> 00:41:04,451
So why did you not just say,
"Please stop calling me"?
712
00:41:04,552 --> 00:41:07,287
(scoffs)
That's what my kid said.
713
00:41:07,420 --> 00:41:08,288
So why didn't you?
714
00:41:08,455 --> 00:41:11,458
Well, at a,
at a certain point,
715
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:12,893
you can't unring a bell.
716
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,462
You talk like this was
a grave situation
717
00:41:15,563 --> 00:41:18,231
and harmful for Monica, right?
718
00:41:18,298 --> 00:41:20,801
-Yes, very.
-But earlier
719
00:41:20,968 --> 00:41:22,636
we heard you encouraging her
720
00:41:22,736 --> 00:41:24,905
to buy him a tie for each day
of the week.
721
00:41:24,972 --> 00:41:27,575
Well, that...
722
00:41:27,641 --> 00:41:28,976
I was joking.
723
00:41:29,142 --> 00:41:32,245
And when Monica said,
"I got the creep a tie.
724
00:41:32,312 --> 00:41:34,648
It was 20 bucks at Marshalls,"
725
00:41:34,815 --> 00:41:36,750
you replied, "Oh, good."
726
00:41:36,817 --> 00:41:38,586
Well, I was being...
727
00:41:39,753 --> 00:41:41,354
That was more of
a pro-Marshalls.
728
00:41:41,488 --> 00:41:45,425
So, was this a serious situation
or was this a joking matter?
729
00:41:45,492 --> 00:41:47,327
That's one moment
out of context.
730
00:41:47,494 --> 00:41:49,830
Or were you just trying
to keep her talking?
731
00:41:49,930 --> 00:41:52,365
Because by then you were taping.
732
00:41:53,701 --> 00:41:55,168
I prefer to call it documenting.
733
00:41:55,268 --> 00:41:56,336
MALE JUROR:
Why did you tape her?
734
00:41:56,503 --> 00:41:58,205
We'll get to that
in just a little bit.
735
00:41:58,338 --> 00:42:00,674
I documented our phone calls
because I knew
736
00:42:00,774 --> 00:42:03,043
-I needed evidence.
-Evidence for what?
737
00:42:04,511 --> 00:42:06,947
Well, for--
so when I came forward...
738
00:42:07,014 --> 00:42:08,949
-But it was a private matter.
-I don't think you comprehend...
739
00:42:09,016 --> 00:42:10,684
It was between Monica
and the president.
740
00:42:10,851 --> 00:42:11,852
No one needed to know.
741
00:42:11,952 --> 00:42:14,521
Actually, this was
a very young staffer
742
00:42:14,622 --> 00:42:17,024
in a workplace with
the most senior official
743
00:42:17,124 --> 00:42:18,859
in that workplace making choices
744
00:42:18,959 --> 00:42:21,695
that were causing her
severe distress.
745
00:42:21,862 --> 00:42:24,031
She told me
on more than one occasion
746
00:42:24,164 --> 00:42:25,465
she wanted to kill herself.
747
00:42:25,565 --> 00:42:29,369
And still, the president
of the United States
748
00:42:29,469 --> 00:42:31,304
used her to meet his needs.
749
00:42:31,371 --> 00:42:35,475
He had total control.
His behavior was unconscionable.
750
00:42:38,478 --> 00:42:40,547
It was an abuse of power.
751
00:42:40,681 --> 00:42:42,716
-Mrs. Tripp...
-I had to end it.
752
00:42:42,850 --> 00:42:44,484
I had to end it.
753
00:42:49,923 --> 00:42:53,661
Mrs. Tripp, when you chose to...
754
00:42:53,761 --> 00:42:57,064
begin documenting Monica,
755
00:42:57,197 --> 00:43:00,267
you were under enormous stress,
correct?
756
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,003
I was terrified.
757
00:43:03,103 --> 00:43:06,506
I knew if I came forward
with no evidence,
758
00:43:06,573 --> 00:43:08,108
they would destroy me.
759
00:43:08,241 --> 00:43:11,078
When you say "they,"
who are you referring to?
760
00:43:11,211 --> 00:43:13,947
(scoffs)
Bill Clinton.
761
00:43:14,081 --> 00:43:16,283
And, uh, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
762
00:43:16,416 --> 00:43:18,251
-Oh, man.
-(others groan)
763
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,190
The president's lawyer
had already made
764
00:43:23,290 --> 00:43:25,625
a defamatory statement
about me in Newsweek.
765
00:43:25,759 --> 00:43:27,761
I was sure I was
going to be subpoenaed
766
00:43:27,895 --> 00:43:29,296
in the Paula Jones case.
767
00:43:29,429 --> 00:43:31,431
I felt, if I told
the truth under oath,
768
00:43:31,531 --> 00:43:33,600
I would lose my job.
769
00:43:33,734 --> 00:43:35,268
Or worse.
770
00:43:35,368 --> 00:43:38,471
You thought if you told the
truth in the Paula Jones case...
771
00:43:38,605 --> 00:43:40,107
I was afraid I wouldn't even
get the chance.
772
00:43:40,207 --> 00:43:42,976
Are you-- are you saying you
thought you would be killed?
773
00:43:43,110 --> 00:43:44,945
Yes.
774
00:43:45,078 --> 00:43:47,314
-Why?
-I have what I consider
775
00:43:47,447 --> 00:43:49,116
well-founded fears
776
00:43:49,216 --> 00:43:51,218
of what this administration
is capable of.
777
00:43:51,284 --> 00:43:53,053
Can you give an example?
778
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,956
I have, uh, reason to believe
779
00:43:56,089 --> 00:43:58,158
that the Vince Foster
tragedy was not
780
00:43:58,291 --> 00:44:01,294
depicted accurately by
members of the administration.
781
00:44:01,428 --> 00:44:04,631
Are you-- are you saying
he didn't commit suicide?
782
00:44:04,798 --> 00:44:07,300
(chuckles)
We will never know.
783
00:44:07,467 --> 00:44:09,469
Mrs. Tripp,
do you have information
784
00:44:09,602 --> 00:44:11,671
about the White House
and the death of Vince Foster?
785
00:44:11,805 --> 00:44:14,808
I'll just say this.
786
00:44:14,975 --> 00:44:17,811
The day after that tragedy,
787
00:44:17,945 --> 00:44:21,481
the behavior I saw in
the West Wing frightened me.
788
00:44:21,648 --> 00:44:24,517
There was a flurry
of activity, boxes
789
00:44:24,651 --> 00:44:26,486
and secrecy behind closed doors.
790
00:44:26,619 --> 00:44:29,156
I was concerned,
and I was alarmed.
791
00:44:29,289 --> 00:44:31,992
Because people were
meeting behind closed doors?
792
00:44:32,092 --> 00:44:36,163
(scoffs) It was far more
ominous than that.
793
00:44:36,263 --> 00:44:38,365
(juror scoffs)
794
00:44:39,366 --> 00:44:42,269
I am telling you,
under oath today,
795
00:44:42,335 --> 00:44:44,671
that I felt threatened.
796
00:44:44,838 --> 00:44:49,009
And I was angry.
And I resented it.
797
00:44:49,176 --> 00:44:52,012
-And still do.
-JUROR: I have a question.
798
00:44:52,179 --> 00:44:54,347
Did you ever think
about what would happen
799
00:44:54,514 --> 00:44:56,784
to Monica
when all this came out?
800
00:44:56,850 --> 00:44:59,352
*
801
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,355
LINDA: All right,
call me back, you nut.
802
00:45:02,455 --> 00:45:05,692
-MONICA: Ugh. I will, I will.
-Bye.
803
00:45:14,634 --> 00:45:15,869
-Done.
-Your attorney
804
00:45:16,003 --> 00:45:17,204
has a car waiting for you
out back.
805
00:45:17,304 --> 00:45:18,371
If you want, I can...
806
00:45:18,505 --> 00:45:20,407
I know the way.
807
00:45:20,540 --> 00:45:23,911
(door opens, closes)
808
00:45:24,978 --> 00:45:28,548
I thought, uh,
if this became public,
809
00:45:28,681 --> 00:45:31,384
Monica would not be
in any sort of danger.
810
00:45:31,518 --> 00:45:33,887
But you said you felt dangers,
both personal
811
00:45:33,987 --> 00:45:35,889
and professional,
could befall you.
812
00:45:35,989 --> 00:45:38,725
What crossed your mind
that would befall Monica?
813
00:45:40,260 --> 00:45:42,395
Uh, what-what would befall her?
814
00:45:42,495 --> 00:45:44,731
JUROR:
Did you have any fears for her?
815
00:45:44,865 --> 00:45:46,733
All these details in the publi.
816
00:45:46,867 --> 00:45:49,569
LINDA: She was...
I-I think I said this.
817
00:45:49,702 --> 00:45:51,504
Uh, she was suicidal.
818
00:45:51,571 --> 00:45:53,073
JUROR 2: You're not
answering her question.
819
00:45:53,173 --> 00:45:58,445
What Monica was going through
was extremely unhealthy.
820
00:45:58,578 --> 00:46:00,613
But you didn't think
it would bring her harm?
821
00:46:02,115 --> 00:46:04,117
Well, not compared to...
822
00:46:06,786 --> 00:46:08,755
-No.
-Why not?
823
00:46:10,590 --> 00:46:11,691
Uh, pardon?
824
00:46:11,791 --> 00:46:14,527
Why would you
not think about her?
825
00:46:14,627 --> 00:46:16,629
*
826
00:46:17,931 --> 00:46:22,135
I was thinking that she was
in a tremendously bad situation.
827
00:46:22,269 --> 00:46:23,971
(juror scoffs)
828
00:46:24,104 --> 00:46:27,774
And do you feel now she's better
off because of what you did?
829
00:46:27,908 --> 00:46:30,310
Do you feel
her life is better now?
830
00:46:33,113 --> 00:46:34,447
(breath trembles)
831
00:46:39,652 --> 00:46:42,055
-How'd it go?
-Ready, Linda?
832
00:46:43,456 --> 00:46:44,958
You sure?
833
00:46:45,125 --> 00:46:47,060
You don't have
to do this right now.
834
00:47:03,143 --> 00:47:04,477
ZACCAGNINI:
We understand
835
00:47:04,577 --> 00:47:07,080
there is some interest
in hearing from Ms. Tripp.
836
00:47:07,147 --> 00:47:09,682
She will not be taking
any questions today.
837
00:47:09,816 --> 00:47:13,987
She has, however, agreed
to make some brief remarks.
838
00:47:14,087 --> 00:47:16,523
(cameras clicking)
839
00:47:17,991 --> 00:47:21,194
Good afternoon.
I'm not a public speaker.
840
00:47:21,328 --> 00:47:23,196
I'm going to have to refer
to my notes.
841
00:47:23,330 --> 00:47:24,331
Please bear with me.
842
00:47:29,502 --> 00:47:32,672
I understand that there's
been a great deal of speculation
843
00:47:32,772 --> 00:47:36,176
about just who I am
and how I got here.
844
00:47:36,276 --> 00:47:38,678
Well, the answer is simple.
845
00:47:38,778 --> 00:47:42,015
I'm you.
I'm just like you.
846
00:47:43,183 --> 00:47:46,519
I'm an average American
who found herself in a situation
847
00:47:46,619 --> 00:47:48,855
not of her own making.
848
00:47:48,956 --> 00:47:51,858
Because I am just like you,
I ask you to imagine how you
849
00:47:51,959 --> 00:47:54,694
would feel if someone
you thought was a friend
850
00:47:54,794 --> 00:47:56,629
urged you to commit a felony.
851
00:47:58,031 --> 00:48:00,800
Imagine how you would feel
if your boss's attorney
852
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:03,703
called you a liar in front
of the whole country.
853
00:48:04,904 --> 00:48:06,406
And imagine if that boss
854
00:48:06,539 --> 00:48:08,976
was the president
of the United States.
855
00:48:12,045 --> 00:48:15,815
Imagine how you would feel
if your employer demoted you
856
00:48:15,915 --> 00:48:19,586
and cast you aside,
for daring to tell the truth.
857
00:48:23,656 --> 00:48:26,826
Imagine how it would feel to see
the pain in your children's eyes
858
00:48:26,893 --> 00:48:29,429
when they hear
a seemingly endless barrage
859
00:48:29,562 --> 00:48:31,764
of lies about their mother.
860
00:48:31,898 --> 00:48:35,768
A mother who is not
going out to defend herself.
861
00:48:41,608 --> 00:48:44,444
I've been vilified for
taking the path of truth.
862
00:48:45,612 --> 00:48:47,614
I've been maligned
by people who have chosen
863
00:48:47,747 --> 00:48:49,682
not to tell the truth,
864
00:48:49,782 --> 00:48:53,086
and who know they
are not telling the truth.
865
00:48:53,220 --> 00:48:55,022
To cast me in the role
of the villain,
866
00:48:55,122 --> 00:48:57,790
they have enlisted
legions of paid prevaricators.
867
00:48:57,924 --> 00:48:59,792
Not surprisingly, many
from the entertainment industry
868
00:48:59,926 --> 00:49:02,795
have chosen to ridicule me
as well.
869
00:49:03,963 --> 00:49:06,633
Going so far as to even
make fun of my appearance
870
00:49:06,766 --> 00:49:10,303
in a manner so mean and so cruel
that I pray none of you
871
00:49:10,437 --> 00:49:11,871
is ever subjected to it.
872
00:49:13,940 --> 00:49:15,642
Despite all of that,
873
00:49:15,775 --> 00:49:18,811
I bear no malice towards
anyone in this case.
874
00:49:27,787 --> 00:49:29,622
I believe in our country.
875
00:49:30,957 --> 00:49:34,127
As I said, I am no different
than any of you.
876
00:49:34,261 --> 00:49:38,298
I believe you have the right
to tell the truth under oath
877
00:49:38,398 --> 00:49:40,967
without fear
of retribution or worse.
878
00:49:43,070 --> 00:49:46,473
(sighs) I hope that when all
the facts are revealed,
879
00:49:46,573 --> 00:49:48,141
you'll understand that
it is a right
880
00:49:48,308 --> 00:49:50,577
all of us
should be fighting for.
881
00:49:53,313 --> 00:49:54,647
Thank you.
882
00:49:56,916 --> 00:49:58,651
Why did you
betray Monica Lewinsky?
883
00:49:59,819 --> 00:50:00,853
We're not taking any questions.
884
00:50:00,987 --> 00:50:03,090
Linda, do you regret
taping Monica?
885
00:50:03,156 --> 00:50:04,991
REPROTER: Isn't it true
you manipulated her?
886
00:50:05,158 --> 00:50:07,594
REPORTER 2: Did you do
all this for a book deal?
887
00:50:18,171 --> 00:50:19,539
NEWSMAN: The atmosphere
feels very different
888
00:50:19,672 --> 00:50:20,840
-among the party now.
-NEWSWOMAN: Look, I've read
889
00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:22,175
the deposition
and it's very clear...
890
00:50:22,275 --> 00:50:23,543
NEWSMAN 2:
Members of President Clinton's
891
00:50:23,676 --> 00:50:24,844
own party are now wavering
in their support,
892
00:50:24,944 --> 00:50:25,845
including my guest,
893
00:50:26,012 --> 00:50:27,547
Congressman Jim Moran.
894
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,849
MORAN:
The fact is he lied
to the American people.
895
00:50:30,016 --> 00:50:32,352
That is undoubtedly going to
896
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:34,954
necessitate
impeachment proceedings.
897
00:50:49,202 --> 00:50:53,206
Andrew Johnson-- worst leader
this country ever had.
898
00:50:53,306 --> 00:50:56,042
Racist to his core,
drunk as hell
899
00:50:56,143 --> 00:50:58,545
the day he took over
for Lincoln.
900
00:50:59,979 --> 00:51:03,716
1868 Congress
finally impeached his ass.
901
00:51:05,051 --> 00:51:07,887
Only president
that's happened to, only one.
902
00:51:09,489 --> 00:51:10,890
Till now.
903
00:51:12,659 --> 00:51:14,894
I hate it when you're like this.
904
00:51:15,027 --> 00:51:18,165
We have not
lost anything, not yet.
905
00:51:23,236 --> 00:51:24,904
I'll call Jim Moran.
906
00:51:26,005 --> 00:51:27,674
What'll you say?
907
00:51:27,740 --> 00:51:32,011
I will say that if he thinks
he is fighting for me,
908
00:51:32,111 --> 00:51:35,081
then he needs
to fight on my side.
909
00:51:35,182 --> 00:51:37,450
And the way I see it,
910
00:51:37,584 --> 00:51:40,253
there are forces that have
been trying to take my husband
911
00:51:40,387 --> 00:51:43,122
down his whole life
and I don't want them to win.
912
00:51:43,256 --> 00:51:44,957
And I won't let them.
913
00:51:46,193 --> 00:51:48,461
And yes,
the right's got the votes,
914
00:51:48,595 --> 00:51:50,197
and I'm sure
they will do their worst.
915
00:51:50,297 --> 00:51:51,631
But to state the obvious,
916
00:51:51,764 --> 00:51:53,633
you are not
Andrew fucking Johnson.
917
00:51:53,766 --> 00:51:57,437
And the last billion times
the GOP has tried to destroy us,
918
00:51:57,570 --> 00:51:59,939
we have wiped the floor
with them.
919
00:52:00,072 --> 00:52:01,608
Have you seen the polls?
920
00:52:01,708 --> 00:52:03,610
Every step
they take towards this
921
00:52:03,743 --> 00:52:07,714
moronic idea,
your approval jumps a point.
922
00:52:07,814 --> 00:52:09,482
Nobody's looking at the polls.
923
00:52:09,616 --> 00:52:11,818
My own party
isn't looking at the polls.
924
00:52:11,951 --> 00:52:14,621
They just need
permission to forgive you.
925
00:52:14,721 --> 00:52:17,457
Which is something
that you can't give them.
926
00:52:20,793 --> 00:52:22,295
But I can.
927
00:52:24,964 --> 00:52:27,133
This is all the FBI interviews?
928
00:52:27,234 --> 00:52:29,001
We're waiting on a few more.
929
00:52:29,135 --> 00:52:30,503
We have a problem.
930
00:52:30,637 --> 00:52:32,138
We need to put Monica back
under oath.
931
00:52:32,305 --> 00:52:34,807
-Why?
-Our perjury charge
rests on the president
932
00:52:34,974 --> 00:52:37,143
claiming that technically he
didn't have sex with her because
933
00:52:37,244 --> 00:52:38,911
he never touched her
with intent to arouse.
934
00:52:38,978 --> 00:52:41,648
He's lying,
but here's hours and hours
935
00:52:41,748 --> 00:52:43,650
of Monica's testimony,
and she never once
936
00:52:43,783 --> 00:52:45,252
speaks about all the times
937
00:52:45,318 --> 00:52:47,153
that he touched her
with intent to arouse.
938
00:52:47,254 --> 00:52:48,988
It was implied on our chart.
939
00:52:49,155 --> 00:52:52,325
That's weak shit. We need her
under oath, in detail,
940
00:52:52,459 --> 00:52:54,261
on all the sex,
proving him wrong.
941
00:52:54,327 --> 00:52:55,995
Okay, let's bring her back in.
942
00:52:56,095 --> 00:52:59,999
Gosh, who's going to
handle asking her about that?
943
00:53:01,334 --> 00:53:04,504
We are on the record.
Monica, you're still under oath.
944
00:53:05,538 --> 00:53:08,508
First, I want to start by
asking you a general question.
945
00:53:08,675 --> 00:53:10,543
Did your relationship
with President Clinton
946
00:53:10,677 --> 00:53:12,279
start with sex
and then evolve into
947
00:53:12,345 --> 00:53:14,013
a friendship
or the other way around?
948
00:53:15,682 --> 00:53:18,017
It started with
a physical attraction
949
00:53:18,117 --> 00:53:20,687
which led to
a sexual relationship.
950
00:53:20,787 --> 00:53:22,855
And then the emotional and...
951
00:53:22,955 --> 00:53:25,458
friendship aspects of
that relationship developed
952
00:53:25,525 --> 00:53:28,695
after the beginning of
the sexual relationship.
953
00:53:29,862 --> 00:53:31,864
Why don't we start
with the first incident
954
00:53:32,031 --> 00:53:34,133
of physical intimacy:
November 15, 1995,
955
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,202
which you've already
testified some about.
956
00:53:36,303 --> 00:53:38,371
-Okay.
-Can you tell me
957
00:53:38,505 --> 00:53:40,139
how the physical intimacy
between you two
958
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,474
began that night?
959
00:53:44,477 --> 00:53:45,878
Um...
960
00:53:47,146 --> 00:53:49,982
Well, we were, uh...
961
00:53:50,049 --> 00:53:52,719
in an office alone.
962
00:53:52,819 --> 00:53:54,887
Kissing, you know?
963
00:53:56,389 --> 00:53:59,392
And then what happened
after the kissing started?
964
00:54:01,661 --> 00:54:07,900
Um, he started
untucking my shirt.
965
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,168
And then what?
966
00:54:12,572 --> 00:54:15,074
I'm sorry.
For legal reasons,
967
00:54:15,207 --> 00:54:18,244
I need to get
specifically what happened.
968
00:54:18,378 --> 00:54:19,946
Each physical interaction.
969
00:54:21,514 --> 00:54:22,915
Okay.
970
00:54:23,916 --> 00:54:26,252
(sighs)
Um...
971
00:54:26,386 --> 00:54:32,091
So, he took off my sweater
and, you know...
972
00:54:32,224 --> 00:54:34,193
Did he touch your breasts?
973
00:54:35,628 --> 00:54:38,531
-Yes.
-With your bra on or off?
974
00:54:42,101 --> 00:54:44,437
(sighs) I...
975
00:54:44,537 --> 00:54:48,808
I-I... (sighs) I don't
remember if I unhooked my bra
976
00:54:48,941 --> 00:54:51,978
or if he, um...
977
00:54:55,114 --> 00:54:57,984
...lifted my...
978
00:54:58,117 --> 00:55:00,653
bra up over--
This is embarrassing.
979
00:55:00,787 --> 00:55:02,121
I know.
980
00:55:02,221 --> 00:55:03,623
I'm sorry.
981
00:55:09,128 --> 00:55:10,563
But he...
982
00:55:11,798 --> 00:55:14,501
He lifted the bra over
your breasts.
983
00:55:14,634 --> 00:55:18,004
Um... sometimes...
984
00:55:21,641 --> 00:55:27,980
...he would lift my-my breasts
out of my bra. God.
985
00:55:28,147 --> 00:55:30,483
Did he touch your breasts
with his hands?
986
00:55:30,617 --> 00:55:31,651
Yes.
987
00:55:31,784 --> 00:55:33,653
Did he touch your breasts
with his mouth?
988
00:55:34,987 --> 00:55:37,156
-Yes.
-Did he touch your genital area?
989
00:55:41,761 --> 00:55:45,164
Uh, I-I know this is...
990
00:55:45,264 --> 00:55:47,667
It's just, um, thinking about
other people reading this...
991
00:55:47,767 --> 00:55:50,670
I understand,
but I've been instructed
992
00:55:50,837 --> 00:55:52,171
to question you
on these details.
993
00:55:52,271 --> 00:55:53,606
-And I have to answer?
-Pursuant to the agreement
994
00:55:53,673 --> 00:55:55,608
you have with this office, yes.
995
00:55:55,675 --> 00:55:57,176
Do you understand?
996
00:55:58,511 --> 00:56:00,346
-Yes.
-Okay.
997
00:56:01,848 --> 00:56:04,050
Did he touch your genitals
on this date?
998
00:56:06,118 --> 00:56:07,186
Yes.
999
00:56:07,286 --> 00:56:09,856
Can you describe
exactly how that happened?
1000
00:56:12,692 --> 00:56:14,060
He, um...
1001
00:56:23,369 --> 00:56:25,472
The president...
1002
00:56:25,538 --> 00:56:29,075
uh, got a call, so we moved
into a back office.
1003
00:56:31,644 --> 00:56:33,480
While he was on the phone...
1004
00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:39,986
...he put his hand, uh,
down my pants and he...
1005
00:56:40,052 --> 00:56:42,088
stimulated that area.
1006
00:56:42,221 --> 00:56:44,390
Directly on your skin
or through underwear?
1007
00:56:46,993 --> 00:56:50,062
It was, um, touching...
1008
00:56:50,162 --> 00:56:53,232
through my underwear
at first and then he
1009
00:56:53,365 --> 00:56:55,668
placed his hand
under my underwear.
1010
00:56:55,735 --> 00:56:57,904
And did he bring you to orgasm?
1011
00:57:01,741 --> 00:57:03,910
-(quietly): Yes.
-Okay.
1012
00:57:05,612 --> 00:57:08,615
On this night, did you perform
oral sex on the president?
1013
00:57:08,748 --> 00:57:10,416
Yes.
1014
00:57:12,284 --> 00:57:13,620
Who initiated that?
1015
00:57:13,753 --> 00:57:15,421
I did.
1016
00:57:16,623 --> 00:57:19,959
Did the president say
anything to you during this?
1017
00:57:21,594 --> 00:57:22,929
No.
1018
00:57:25,765 --> 00:57:27,133
He was on the phone.
1019
00:57:30,770 --> 00:57:32,639
Would you like a break?
1020
00:57:41,548 --> 00:57:44,383
IMMERGUT:
Moving to March 31, 1996,
1021
00:57:44,450 --> 00:57:46,452
did the president
stimulate your genitals?
1022
00:57:46,553 --> 00:57:47,954
Yes.
1023
00:57:50,122 --> 00:57:52,391
Was that through clothing?
1024
00:57:54,226 --> 00:57:55,962
Not through clothing.
1025
00:57:56,095 --> 00:57:59,398
And he stimulated
your genitals with his hands?
1026
00:57:59,465 --> 00:58:02,802
Yes. And...
1027
00:58:05,404 --> 00:58:06,806
And?
1028
00:58:08,975 --> 00:58:11,343
He used, um...
1029
00:58:13,312 --> 00:58:15,147
He had a cigar.
1030
00:58:18,985 --> 00:58:22,321
I'm sorry, could you speak just
a little louder for the tape?
1031
00:58:22,421 --> 00:58:23,823
Okay, sorry.
1032
00:58:23,923 --> 00:58:24,991
He had a cigar.
1033
00:58:25,091 --> 00:58:27,326
Did he insert the cigar
into your vagina?
1034
00:58:30,763 --> 00:58:32,665
I'm sorry, I'm gonna need you
to answer verbally.
1035
00:58:32,765 --> 00:58:33,833
Yes.
1036
00:58:36,002 --> 00:58:38,170
Whose idea, um...?
1037
00:58:39,772 --> 00:58:41,173
How did that...?
1038
00:58:42,508 --> 00:58:46,178
Um, we were talking, um,
1039
00:58:46,278 --> 00:58:49,682
in the Oval Office...
1040
00:58:49,782 --> 00:58:53,352
one day and he was,
1041
00:58:53,519 --> 00:58:56,188
uh, he-he was chewing on a...
1042
00:58:56,355 --> 00:59:00,860
cigar and he looked at it
in a sort of...
1043
00:59:03,062 --> 00:59:06,799
...naughty way and I said,
1044
00:59:06,866 --> 00:59:11,704
"We can do that sometime."
So we did.
1045
00:59:12,805 --> 00:59:15,241
Did you understand it
to be arousing?
1046
00:59:16,876 --> 00:59:18,911
-Yes.
-Then what happened?
1047
00:59:29,388 --> 00:59:31,090
(quietly):
Um...
1048
00:59:32,324 --> 00:59:36,729
He put it in his mouth.
He said it tasted good.
1049
00:59:40,232 --> 00:59:42,669
Okay, I have
just one last question.
1050
00:59:42,769 --> 00:59:44,403
It goes to your motivation.
1051
00:59:46,072 --> 00:59:49,241
Do you for any reason
want to hurt the president?
1052
00:59:51,243 --> 00:59:53,780
No, that's the last thing
I want.
1053
00:59:53,913 --> 00:59:55,748
All right.
1054
00:59:55,882 --> 00:59:59,418
Thank you.
You did really well, Monica.
1055
01:00:00,953 --> 01:00:03,355
That's all I have.
I have to run this in.
1056
01:00:03,455 --> 01:00:06,092
Pam can help you see
yourself out.
1057
01:00:07,426 --> 01:00:09,595
Is it a boy or a girl?
1058
01:00:12,131 --> 01:00:15,935
Uh... It's a boy.
1059
01:00:16,035 --> 01:00:17,937
Mazel tov.
1060
01:00:19,371 --> 01:00:21,473
For your sake,
I hope this is goodbye.
1061
01:00:21,607 --> 01:00:23,609
*
1062
01:00:37,623 --> 01:00:42,128
I want the full report ready
for Congress by Labor Day.
1063
01:00:42,261 --> 01:00:44,063
Judge, that's two weeks
from now.
1064
01:00:44,130 --> 01:00:45,965
Any closer to the election
and it will
1065
01:00:46,132 --> 01:00:48,134
appear like a political hit
on the Democrats.
1066
01:00:48,234 --> 01:00:50,636
Brett, please make sure
everyone has their drafts in
1067
01:00:50,737 --> 01:00:51,971
by September 4th.
1068
01:00:52,138 --> 01:00:55,341
-Got it.
-Our FBI guys just
sent this 302.
1069
01:00:55,474 --> 01:00:57,176
It's a new interview
with Jane Doe 5.
1070
01:00:57,309 --> 01:00:59,645
Real name Juanita Broaddrick.
She's changing her statement.
1071
01:00:59,812 --> 01:01:02,314
-What she's saying?
-That Bill Clinton raped her.
1072
01:01:02,481 --> 01:01:05,317
This is that same woman who,
back in January,
1073
01:01:05,417 --> 01:01:07,486
signed an affidavit saying
nothing ever happened.
1074
01:01:07,653 --> 01:01:08,821
Right. Now she says
that was a lie.
1075
01:01:08,988 --> 01:01:11,190
Why is she lying?
Was she coerced by the Clintons?
1076
01:01:11,323 --> 01:01:13,993
-No.
-Was she offered something?
1077
01:01:14,093 --> 01:01:16,495
No, no quid pro quo.
She's saying she lied at first
1078
01:01:16,662 --> 01:01:18,164
because she didn't
want to be involved.
1079
01:01:18,264 --> 01:01:20,833
She's had no contact with
Clinton people since the '80s.
1080
01:01:20,933 --> 01:01:22,001
Well, if he didn't pressure her,
1081
01:01:22,101 --> 01:01:23,502
then it doesn't go
to his criminality.
1082
01:01:23,602 --> 01:01:26,172
Except for the raping.
1083
01:01:26,272 --> 01:01:27,673
H-He raped her.
1084
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,509
We can't be cluttering
the report with all
1085
01:01:30,609 --> 01:01:33,179
the various sexual experiences
from his past.
1086
01:01:33,345 --> 01:01:35,381
Yeah, there's only so much
ink in the world, Sol.
1087
01:01:35,514 --> 01:01:40,686
I just... Judge, read the 302,
read what he did.
1088
01:01:43,956 --> 01:01:46,692
Perjury and obstruction
of justice.
1089
01:01:46,859 --> 01:01:48,861
Those are our grounds
for impeachment,
1090
01:01:49,028 --> 01:01:51,030
not some lady
who changes her mind
1091
01:01:51,197 --> 01:01:52,364
about what happened one night.
1092
01:01:52,531 --> 01:01:54,867
But...
(stammers, sighs)
1093
01:01:57,303 --> 01:02:00,873
Okay. So, should we not
put her in the report at all?
1094
01:02:00,973 --> 01:02:03,042
It can be an appendix
if you want.
1095
01:02:03,142 --> 01:02:04,811
Put her in a footnote.
1096
01:02:06,578 --> 01:02:07,713
Okay.
1097
01:02:12,819 --> 01:02:14,821
*
1098
01:03:59,325 --> 01:04:02,161
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