All language subtitles for Episode 05 The Woman Haters Club

In homicide we have,
it's called "the board.

No pun intended, we live and die
by the board.

All your detectives are lined up
one through twelve.

It's the luck of the draw.

If you're number one or number two
and that homicide line rings,

you're up.

That's how I caught
three cases back to back,

uh, that, emotionally, made
a huge impact on me.

Garcia's younger sister
found her stabbed to death.

Police say 19-year-old Lena Kim Nguyen

was stabbed to death.

The body of 18-year-old

Jennifer crecente

found Thursday night
with a single gunshot wound.

They were beautiful,
they were fun-loving,

they were caring, charismatic.

I could totally see myself as them.

And they were all brutally murdered.

Jenny, she had a gaping hole
in the back of her head.

How many people
have you seen like that?

It was like she was the...

Detective that investigated the women
hater's club or something.

As a female detective,

it's a lot of trauma to deal with.

My head was up.

But working
in a predominantly male job,

you do have to prove yourself.

So how do you keep going?

Growing up,
I always wanted to be a cop.

My brother-in-law
had been a police officer

and so I would see him in uniform,

and I'd look him up and down
and look at his gun belt and the whole bit.

And I'm like, "hey!
Why don't you take me out on a ride along?"

I kept bugging him and bugging him

and I wore him down
and he's like, "fine."

He goes, "don't even ask me
to go to the restroom,

you don't need water,
you don't need anything.

We're going from call to call
and that's it."

I'm like,
"all right, let's do it!"

I was like,
"hey, I think this is what I wanna do."

He's like, "you're crazy.
Women shouldn't do this." And we were on the drive...

And every time he told me, "you shouldn't do this,"
I would do it. So...

That was just one more thing for me,

for him to tell me not to do that I did.

Fast forward, I graduated
the Austin police academy in 1986

and I spent, uh,
several years on patrol.

I think police work
is always a boy's club.

There's not a whole lot
of females that are attracted to police work.

Uh, the Austin pd as of today
has 1,800 officers

and there's still only maybe,
I would say, 11, maybe 12% female.

Female police officers
in general, you know, already have like a,

a bit of a barrier.

But I've known Lisa since the day I stepped
on the street in a uniform,

and I just expected her,
that she was gonna go.

She's well-focused
on her mission.

I went to work the gang unit, did that
for about five years.

I did some undercover work,
including prostitution, narcotics.

I enjoyed, you know,
working with the guys,

but sometimes you'd open
that door and you'd be like,

"all right,
I'm bleeding.

And I'm in no mood.

So don't with me right now."

I ended up promoting to detective
in the year 2000.

When I went to the homicide unit,

I was like, "oh, my god.
This is real ," you know?

Because, you know, with gangs and robberies
and whatever else,

your suspects all circle back around,

but with homicide it's... That's it.
That is the ultimate crime.

9-1-1, where is your emergency?

January 26, 2004.

I got notified of a suspicious death
in northwest Austin.

When I caught this case, or when this case
caught me, was early in my career.

It's stress, it's a lot of pressure.

Like, this was her first
major homicide investigation,

and I was assigned as the primary
support investigator.

I responded directly to the scene.

Being the, the number one,

you feel the weight of the world on you.

You're trying to remember
everything that you're supposed to be doing,

um, because you
don't wanna screw up.

You, you just don't wanna screw up.

Talking to the two young girls
that were living there, a 13-year-old

and a 16-year-old, that the oldest sister,
18-year-old Virginia Garcia,

also known as Jenny,
was found dead in her bedroom.

Brutally murdered.

As you walk into her bedroom,

what you're seeing
is a half-naked young female,

uh, her head covered in a pillowcase,
bloody pillowcase.

She was nude from, from the waist down.

This particular case
had what appeared to,

to potentially be a,
a sexual component to it.

She sustained three stab wounds.

And the knife is protruding
from her, her chest.

Her arms were bent at the elbows

and pulled back behind her
to the small of her back.

They appeared to be tightly bound.

It was... it was very brutal.

And I imagine, you know, that she was,
she was just in terror.

The suspect broke a window,
went in through the laundry room.

Um, that's how he gained
entry into the house.

The family was a mother,
father and three young, young girls.

The victim's sisters
came home from school

and ended up finding,
um, their older sister in her bedroom...

Deceased.

And, so they're actually
the ones that, that placed the 9-1-1 call

from the neighbor's.

We're processing the crime scene.

It appeared that each of the bedrooms
had been ran sacked.

There was jewelry that was stolen.

Honestly, my first thought
was it was burglary in progress,

and she comes home,
and she catches the suspect.

And at that point, he's like, "I'm .
I have to do something with this girl."

It wasn't until we rolled her over

that we were able to see
what she was bound with,

which were the zip ties.

So now it appeared
to be more methodical.

It wasn't just a simple burglary.

It looked intentional.

I'm like, "you, you tied her up

and you plunged that knife in her chest
as your exclamation Mark.

I told Jenny, "I'm gonna find
who did this to you.

Whatever it takes,
I'm gonna find who did this to you."

As we were working the crime scene,

we found that the phone lines
had been cut.

An individual normally
would not go those lengths
to, to cut the phone line.

And we also were not able
to find any other knifes inside that residence

that matched that particular knife
that was used.

It appeared that the perpetrator
brought that knife with him.

So there was just more
and more mounting evidence

that suggested that this
had been pre-planned.

This wasn't just a random act.

And there was certainly concern

that we potentially
could be dealing with, with a serial killer.

My initial thought was not
a serial killer necessarily,

but it could it be somebody
that she really knows.

Family members, a boyfriend
or an ex-boyfriend, or something.

Because the pillowcase
being over the victim's head

could be somewhat of an indicator

that the suspect didn't want
the victim looking at him

while he was murdering her,
so that it's not real.

It's not real to the suspect.

On Jenny's left upper thigh area
there was a...

What looked like,
kind of, drying sperm

which we collected in order
to be able to test for DNA.

There was an uncapped lotion bottle
on the floor on the victim's bedroom,

so it certainly gave the appearance

that the assailant in this case, uh, was,
was possibly masturbating.

Who, who, who does that?

What kind of person does that?

That's just some sick behavior.

Around where the,
where the blade was at,

there was blood smear
and it was in the shape of a heart.

We look at that blood smear,

and it didn't follow
the natural laws of gravity.

And, to me, it wasn't accidental.

It's weird what sticks out, you know, as
you're going through a crime scene.

The house was very tidy
and organized,

but there was chocolate wrappings

just kind of around the house and so,

I don't know, for some reason,

they just... it was like
a glaring neon sign to me,

that's why I instructed
crime scene to go ahead

and, and collect whatever
wrappings they could find

for any type of, like, DNA comparison
or fingerprint comparison.

The image that will stay
forever in my mind

is seeing those chocolates.

In my head I'm thinking,

"did this eat the chocolates

while he was waiting
to kill this young girl?"

We learned that the victim
in this case was a student

at Saint Edwards university,
in south Austin.

You know, we wanted
to pin down her timeline

for, at least, the last 24 hours.

We reached out to each one
of her professors

and they established
that she was indeed present.

So she had left school,
arrived home around 4:00

and she was supposed
to pick up a younger sister at about 5:00 P.M.

And when she failed to do so,

that sister tried to reach her
by cellular telephone

and was not able to establish contact.

It was not long after that,

that the body of the victim
was found in the bedroom.

Jenny worked at a local restaurant.

She was very well-liked.

In interviewing, you know, the people
that she worked with,

is that she was just a very kind of charismatic
well-liked, well-behaved.

She was just a good girl.

Who would have wanted
to do this to Jenny?

We didn't have any leads
at that point in time.

In homicide, your baptismal
is the first case, right?

Depending if you up, they're like,
"you can't be in here.

You cannot be in this unit."

So, the weight of solving it,

you wanna do everything right.

I was lucky,
cause early on in my career,

I was taught by the best.

Bruce was not only my fto,
my field training officer,

he was a mentor, a teacher,
but most importantly,

he was like a brother to me.

He was what was known
as a cop's cop.

First man we caught.

If somebody said,
"what's the one officer

you would wanna have with you
on any given call?"

He would be the first one chosen.

Although he was a patrol officer,

he could run circles around detectives,

or sergeants, or lieutenants.

And so, even when
I was in homicide, I would count on him.

I know she was still consulting
with Bruce on investigations.

Bruce was always there in her career
and in her life.

I spoke to Bruce about
Jenny Garcia's crime scene.

I wanted him to, in his head,
see what I saw.

And then get his feedback
on the type of suspect.

We talked about binding and gagging her.
He terrorized her.

And I told him, "I'm thinking
it may have been boyfriend or ex-boyfriend."

And he goes,
"but what if it's like some dude

that, you know,
she didn't wanna mess with?"

And I'm like,
"well, then there's that possibility."

To plunge a knife in her chest
through her heart,

that, that's a lot of hate.
Bruce agreed, it was hatred.

That was hate.

My recollection of the father
is that he appeared overly distraught.

Very, uh, melodramatic.

He was inconsolable.

The father was a taxicab driver
here in Austin.

Turns out he was
at work at the time.

Mrs. Garcia was very,
I mean, she was distraught, but she held it together.

She couldn't break down,
she had to keep her together for everybody else.

And I believe she did that
because she knew

that her husband was inconsolable.

I don't think that there's
another job on this planet

where the weight and gravity
of somebody's death

gets thrust upon you like that.

You learn a lot about,
a lot about yourself.

I used to ask the family
for a photograph

and then I would post that photograph

and every day
I didn't solve that homicide,

that was my reminder
of how hard I had to work.

As you're progressing on the case,

several things
are running through your mind,

and you can't box yourself
in just with one theory.

Whether it was a current boyfriend,
an ex-boyfriend,

a stranger, you have
to leave everything open,

and the evidence will take you
where it takes you.

Jenny did have a boyfriend
at the time.

He was a person of interest.

They worked together
at the same restaurant.

He was obviously
still in a state of shock,

but it looked
like Jenny and him were...

They were in a good place
in their relationship.

From the other interviews,
nobody had anything negative to say about Jonathan.

And he was even asked for a DNA sample,
which he voluntarily gave.

Jenny Garcia, we approximate,

she was dead by the, by the time,

a little after 5:00.

Eventually, we were able to confirm

that he had been
at work at the time.

So, we had to, you know,
look for another suspect.

The way the Austin police department homicide unit
functions at a high level

is because it becomes a full-team effort.

Basically, you have a homicide briefing

and as the lead detective,
which would be me,

you start tasking different detectives.

So, we're at the homicide unit,

talking about the case...

...and the homicide main line rings,

and detective Walker answers the phone.

You could kind of hear him,
he was a little bit bothered by the, by the caller

and somebody turned around and said, "who was that?"
And he goes, "I don't know.

I got some guy named David,"
I think,

and he was asking if his friend was okay

because he sees the news crews
were out at her house.

Walker asked him,
"well, who's your friend?"

And he mentioned the victim's name.

TV was on in the room
where we were briefing.

Jenny's younger sister
found her stabbed to death...

We're looking at the TV
and the cameras from the local news crews

were not at her house.

They were down the street
at the, at the corner at an intersection.

And so, I was like,
"how did he know all that information?"

That definitely piqued our interest.

This looked to be
a fishing expedition that an individual

was wanting to know
what we knew and what we thought had happened.

Once he hung up, we tracked the phone number
down to David Diaz Morales.

That phone call turns out to be
a big break in this case.

So we asked Jenny's boyfriend
about David Diaz Morales.

He recognized the, the name

and they all worked together
at an Austin diner.

And David always wanted
to try to hook up with Jenny

and Jenny was like,
"no, no, no,"

and she finally had
to tell him, "no way, no how.
It will never happen."

I asked detective
de los Santos and detective scanlon

to go out and pick up
this David Diaz and bring him to the station.

Me and another detective got it a car

and went to his apartment,

woke up his sister,

woke him up and just told him
who we were

and that we would like for him
to come down to the office

and talk to us about his friend, Jenny.

He didn't ask any questions,
"why me?" You know.

He just said, "okay,
let me get dressed."

It was really cold outside,
we went in the apartment

and we're standing there
while he's getting dressed in his room

and I'm just kinda
scanning with my eyes

and I see some jewelry sitting on top of a, like,
an entertainment cabinet.

They know that the Garcia home

had basically been burglarized

and jewelry was stolen.

I was like, "holy."

He's brought back to the office,

you know, it's 2:00, 3:00
in the morning.

I don't remember exactly
what time it was.

We put him in an interview room
and, eventually,

myself and detective
Eric de los Santos went in

and conducted an interview with him.

Detective scanlon
and detective de los Santos

were interviewing
David Diaz Morales.

I think David Morales reacted
better to kerry and Erick

as males as opposed
to if I had interviewed him.

He had some sort of, like,
female issues, you know?

The interview was one of those
where the suspect that you're talking to

is convinced that he can convince you
that is not him.

De los Santos noticed that the t-shirt
that Morales was wearing,

um, had a stain on it.

And Erick looked at it and said,

"I think that's a body fluid."

He may have been using
the lotion to masturbate with

and then he ejaculated

and then part of his ejaculation

ended up on her, on her thigh

in addition to, possibly,
the t-shirt he was wearing.

It was just kind of surreal to me

because he really couldn't argue
that it wasn't.

You know, as he's being interviewed...

I'm thinking,

"were you in that house
waiting to kill Jenny

eating these peoples' chocolates?"

Like, "it's no big deal.

I'll just sit here and wait
because, you know,

I have a plan and I know
what my endgame is gonna be,

but in the meantime,
I'm just gonna sit here

and, oh, yeah,
I'll have some chocolate."

In my experience,
I have not seen

any suspect that has broken
into a residence

and sat there and ate
the victim's food.

It's crazy.

So I got a search warrant
for Morales' apartment.

So we secured the search warrant

at the residence of Dave Morales,

where we found a number
of pornographic DVDs

that depicted victims
in various cases of bondage.

We also discovered that,
behind his television set,

there were a number
of loose black zip ties

that were consistent with the bindings
that were used on the victim,

that were used to tie
her hands behind her back,

and we were able to confirm that the knife
that was entailed in the chest cavity

of the victim, that was consistent with the set
of knives at his apartment.

I remember thinking,
"this wormy guy

broke into this girl's house, tied her up,

jacked off on her.

He got rejected by her
and his way of dealing with it is to kill her."

He had requested an attorney,

but, in the meantime,
we ended up arresting him.

David Diaz Morales
met with his sister.

He essentially admitted to her
that he had killed Jenny,

but really wouldn't give her
a reason why.

This case, it was...

It was very difficult.
It was very difficult.

Every time Christmas comes around

and I see those chocolates,
it just...

It takes me back to that crime scene.

I associate chocolate
with Jenny's death.

I actually went
and bought chocolates

and I'm like,
"I just can't do it."

I love chocolate,
but I just can't do that.

It taught me, I guess that,
you know, it can go from roses one day

to a knife in the chest the next day.

The smear of blood on her chest
in the shape of a heart,

that question never got answered.

And you don't always get
those answers, right?

But you got the person that did it.

I felt a sense of relief
knowing that we had

the right person that killed Jenny.

I felt like I belonged,

that the Jenny Garcia case
gave me the, the confidence

to know I can hang with some
of these guys in homicide

that I had, you know,
looked up to and admired.

I can, I can do this.

Kerry pages me.

I was at dinner with my husband,

he's like,
"hey, I'm out at a scene

and it looks like it's gonna be a murder."

I thought, "oh, my gosh."

Now there's another young woman that,
that has been murdered.

Police say
19-year-old Lena Kim Nguyen

was found Wednesday evening
around seven by her sister.

Lena was stabbed to death
in her gracy farms apartment.

We were notified by her sister

when she came home,

she found the door
was locked from the inside.

She knew that her sister was there,

tried to knock several times
and there was no answer.

At which time the sister
calls her boyfriend,

the boyfriend comes over
and he tries to get in.

It was a second story apartment,

so he ends up scaling the balcony

and gets onto the patio area

and the patio door is open,

which was not too unusual
because they had a dog

and so, they would leave
the patio door open

so the dog could come in and out.

Lena's sister's boyfriend

found Lena in that apartment
and called the police.

As we enter the apartment,

it's only a one-bedroom apartment,

and so we walk through the front door

and it's a small living room area

with an adjacent little kitchenette,

that's where the computer was.

It appeared to me that she
was seated in a chair

and her attacker came up behind her

and pulled her down onto the floor.

And assaulted her with a knife.

Nothing can prepare you for seeing

some of the horrific things
that you see at crime scenes.

The dog was running around
in the apartment

and had been, uh...

Had been licking on Lena
and had blood on his, on his mouth.

And I remember thinking,
"man, if you could only talk," you know?

"What would you tell me?"

She had just gotten
out of the shower.

I believe her hair was still wet

and she was on her computer.

And he...

He grabbed her by the hair,
exposed her neck,

first couple of puncture wounds

was enough to have killed her.

All the other puncture wounds
were post-mortem.

Multiple stab wounds
like that, somebody's angry.

Someone is angry.

This is personal.

It didn't appear as if it
was a burglary gone bad.

As I'm standing there,
looking at the victim,

it takes me back
to Jenny Garcia's crime scene.

Another young woman in Austin, Texas,

murdered during the prime of her life.

As a female detective,
that, that moment

hits you really hard.

It's a lot of trauma to deal with.

I still keep
a framed photo of, of Lena.

And it's in a box at, at my house.

And she's just a gorgeous girl
with just a really beautiful smile.

So young and full of life.

It just... uh...

She looks like sunshine,
that's my best description of her.

She looks like sunshine in that picture.

Every day,
I would, I would look at it.

I imagine her telling me,

"have you found who did this to me?"

Similar to Jenny, you know,

I told her,
"I'm gonna..."

You know, "I'm gonna try
my hardest to find out who, who did this to you."

As the lead detective,
you're kinda watching,

you know, all your people
that you delegated to do x, y, and z,

and they're coming back to you,

and, and giving you information.

There was a neighbor
who witnessed an individual

run from the vicinity
of the apartment complex

that was dressed
in dark clothing articles.

I found a shoe impression
in some dirt,

and we took a picture of it.

We did a technique called luminol...

...to try to illuminate blood stains

that we didn't see with our naked eye.

And it reacted to the kitchen sink.

Did somebody after they stabbed her,

you know, wash their, wash their hands?

When we swab the dog,
the blood on the dog,

we were hoping that we can develop
a profile from the blood

that might help us
identify our suspect.

But the dog only had
Lena's blood on her.

After all the efforts
we put into this crime scene,

the swabbing of different objects

and hoping that we were going
to collect something

that was gonna help us
to develop a profile,

be it to our frustration,

ultimately we didn't find
any DNA at the crime scene.

Through the autopsy,

through the medical
examiner's report,

we found out that she had not been
sexually assaulted.

With no DNA coming back,
I didn't feel like we had any solid evidence.

And that's when personal relationships
become very important.

Lena was a young, beautiful girl.

She was popular, she was dating a guy
by the name of Chris.

Lena's sister, she gave me the backstory
on their relationship.

There was nothing
significant about Chris

that stood out to me
as him being suspicious.

There were several guys
that were interested in her.

There was an older white male
in the complex

apparently that took a liking to her.

So, I had to research

and be able to eliminate
a bunch of these other loose ends.

But the one name that kept coming up

was Lena's ex-boyfriend, tai ho.

They had separated, you know, upwards
to six months ago.

But we're now learning
that he was harassing her,

and we found out
through another individual

that he would become upset
whenever there was mention of her name.

We found out that they had somewhat
of a volatile relationship.

And he was living
in the fort worth area,

which is about 170 miles
from, from Austin to fort worth.

So we immediately made plans to depart Austin
and head to fort worth

to, to contact this individual.

Tai ho was living with his friend
and his friend's family

because his own family
moved to California.

He remained in Texas
to finish high school.

So we meet up at the address
where tai ho is living

and we end up getting
consent from tai ho

to search his vehicle.

We did locate photographs
of Lena in his car.

He, somehow, saw a picture of Lena

and the new boyfriend and they were kissing
and that affected him.

He was asked if he would be willing

to come down to the fort worth
police department.

I had already been up
over 24 hours at that point.

My first impression
of tai ho is he was just, he was very calm.

So his story was that he
drove his friend to school in fort worth,

dropped him off, came back home,
slept, got up,

went to go play basketball
with some people that he really couldn't identify

or give me names and then, eventually,
comes back home.

He was trying to play it
really, really cool.

Like, "no big deal,
I was here in fort worth."

We're evaluating his responses
to our questions,

and I noticed that he had sustained an injury
to his left hand.

It appeared to be fairly fresh.

It was something that was scarred
or even scabbed over.

Definitely piqued my interest,
because he didn't have a reasonable explanation

as to why that injury
was sustained.

He denies killing her
throughout the whole time

and he denies ever being in Austin.

But he does tell me
that he still loved her

and that he wanted to be with her.

The interview started about 9:45 P.M.

And we finally ended
at 4:00 in the morning.

And then... tai ho asked,

"do you guys know of a church
that is close by?"

And I think Dave and I looked
at each other, like, "what?"

"Okay, is this the moment?"
You know?

"Is he fixing a crack at this point?"

It was clever not to push
and ask in that particular point in time,

so I posed a question,
I asked him if he was religious.

And he indicated that he was not.

I think that he
was probably thinking,

"I should just spill it.
I should just tell them what I did."

But he couldn't quite
get himself there.

He became more than just
a person of interest to me at that point.

He goes from person
of interest to suspect.

He was a senior at crawley high school.

One of the girls at the high school
tells us that tai ho

was wanting to get gloves, wanting
to get dark clothing, wanting to get a gun.

She heard tai ho talking to people,

asking specifically for these things.

I knew at that point
in the investigation

that there was a witness

that was near the apartment complex,

around the time
of the murder in Austin

who observed an individual
wearing dark color clothing

fleeing from the vicinity
of the apartment.

In interviewing this girl,

I asked her if she thought
that tai ho was capable of murdering somebody

and she said, "yeah."

She thought he was capable.

We checked attendance records
and tai ho was not at school

on the day of Lena Nguyen's murder.

But that was circumstantial evidence.

I wanted more.

We were searching
her cellphone activity,

we're searching
her computer activity

and we finally catch
a big break at that time.

We discovered that tai ho
hacked into her account.

There was indication
that he had been harassing her

up until the point of,
he was stalking.

We found through tai ho's aol account

that he had documented a conversation

in which he pretended
to be Lena Nguyen

where he acted as though
it was a loving engagement back and forth

between the two of them

where he would ask how she was doing

and then he would impersonate her
and respond that she was fine.

This was clearly an individual
that was not willing

to give up on the relationship.

She posted this thing
like, "leave me alone.

Quit bugging me.
You're blowing up my phone.

It's over. Stop calling me
1,000 times a day.

What do I need, a restraining order?"

And I believe, to me,
in reading that post,

she's referring to tai ho
without actually saying his name.

And there at the end of that entry,
she's pleading for help.

While investigating tai ho,

we pulled his cellphone records.

Cell tower hit waco,

which would be the,
the path taken by tai ho

from the fort worth area
through waco to Austin.

That was a huge lead in, in this case.

Ultimately, we were able
to put his, put his cellphone

in Austin at the time
of Lena's murder.

I contacted tai ho and told him

that if he wanted to drive
down to Austin to pick up

some of the items
that I had seized from him

after Lena's murder,
he could come pick them up.

He drove to Austin,

we wanted to see if he would submit
to a polygraph.

He voluntarily took
a polygraph and he failed it.

The da felt that we had
enough at that point to, to cut a warrant.

We took his vehicle again,

and this time for forensic processing.

It's during the course of this search
we found a pair of shoes

in the trunk of the vehicle.

The imprint impression at the scene

appeared to be one and the same.

We had really solid evidence against tai ho
at this point,

but I still knew that I had to get
a confession.

So during the course of the interrogation,
I'm thinking about Bruce.

Since he had been
my field training officer

and my partner in the gang unit,

I learned interview
and interrogation skills from him.

You work in an interview interrogation
different ways

and within that same interrogation
you might go hard,

you know, on somebody
and then back off

and then give them
a little bit of time to breathe,

think about things.

I spoke to Bruce about just the marathon
interview with him.

It's just mentally
and physically

and emotionally exhausting interviewing
somebody for hours on end.

He goes, "and what did you get out of it?
" I said, "Jack"

At that point, we felt like we had

enough probable cause
to, to arrest him.

That could be the extra pressure

needed to try to get a confession.

He tells us that he wants
to talk to Lena's sister.

We didn't know
the nature of the request

at that particular point in time,

but it's definitely intriguing
that he was wanting to, to reach out.

At some point, we have to make
a calculated decision

to see if the suspect
regrets any of his actions

and will confess his crime
to the victim's family.

So, in essence, she was being used
as a, a vehicle,

but I prepped Lena's sister,
thoa, before allowing her

to go into the room
with tai ho.

I felt bad for her,
I mean, I did not want to have to send her in,

but she wanted to step up
to the plate to try to help her sister.

He whispered in her ear

something to the fact that...

"You've got the right person in the chair"

and that he was responsible.

I think maybe he felt like,
you know, thoa was, she wasn't law enforcement.

If he actually said it to me,

then that would mean
that, yes, he did it.

But if he told thoa,

then it was just basically,
he's like, "I'm sorry."

That was a confession at that point.

For him to now say that we had
the right person in the chair,

that was quite a revelation.

Tai ho was charged with the murder
of Lena Nguyen,

and he was sentenced
to 75 years in prison.

I take Lena's picture down
and then I file it

in the, in the case jacket,
at the very front of the case jacket

so that you,
you see the person's face.

It's not just a case number.

My brother-in-law,
like I said earlier,

was not real keen on women
being police officers,

but after the Lena Nguyen's case,

he's like, "oh, okay,
I'm proud of you."

You know, just that quick,
"okay, I'm proud of you."

The other homicides detectives
had kind of dubbed me

"the women hater club detective"

because I had these back-to-back
homicides of young females

that were being murdered.

I'm like, what...
You know? How do these young women's cases

land on my, on my lap.

Um...
I don't know.

Working homicides
are more of a calling.

It's almost like your life
doesn't really belong to you anymore.

Your life belongs to the board.

The board is cruel.

On February the 17th, 2006,

I was wrapping up
Lena Nguyen's case and...

I'm up on the, on the board
again as the number one.

I get a call and I thought,
"oh, my gosh,

not another young woman that,
that has been murdered."

I responded to the 8,500 block
of coppiano drive.

A man walking his dog
found a body in the woods,

just on the other side
of a retention pond.

One that particular day,
it was a cold and overcast.

We had to walk through some cedar trees
to get to the body.

Growing up,
I always wanted to be a cop,

but nothing can prepare you
for the things that you see in the homicide unit.

Although it's beautiful
what they've done with this crime scene area,

the vision in my head
will always remain the way I last saw her.

She had a large gaping wound,

and the back of her head
had been shot off.

I couldn't see her face
because her actual hair

was over her, and she had long hair,

was over her, her head.

One of the things that was really significant
to me and very memorable

was she had kind of light brown hair

and strands of her hair
were in the tree branches.

Her brain was scattered

as a result of the weapon
that she was shot with

and in processing
the crime scene and walking around there,

I had accidently stepped
on a piece of her brain.

And I was like, "oh, no."

That felt horrible.

It's just...
That was a horrible feeling.

Um...

In this case,

the devastation that resulted from the wound
inflicted on her...

I mean, I wouldn't even
describe it for you

because I don't want anybody else...

A young girl out in the woods...

Just...
Dying in that manner.

I mean, any homicide
detective will tell you,

yeah, it does, it takes a toll on you.

We found a Texas driver's license

that identified her
as Jennifer crecente.

Jenny Garcia,

Lena Nguyen,

now we have Jennifer crecente.

Quiet coppiano St. overtaken by cops,

cruisers and crime scene tape.

The body of 18-year-old Jennifer found Thursday night
with a single gunshot wound.

Doug mamouser found the body
while walking his dog.

My heart was racing and, uh...

It was just very upsetting.

While I was processing
the crime scene,

kerry's at the mother's house
interviewing her.

You could just see she was crushed.

They talked to me for a long time.

Over 30 minutes

and then they finally said
that, yes, that was her.

And I put my head down
on my coffee table

and then I just started

banging my head on the coffee table
and I started to cry.

I just remember looking
at her and looking around

and there was nobody there
for her except for us.

Doesn't feel good telling somebody

that you just found
their daughter in a field.

Jennifer was a very unique girl.

She was born an adult.

She was pretty fiercely protective
of the people that she loved,

and I know very strongly
that she knew

that I loved her beyond measure.

In talking to Jennifer's mother, Elizabeth,

we knew that one of the last people

that Jennifer was probably with

or had talked to

was her ex-boyfriend Justin Crabbe.

Jennifer dated Justin
for two-and-a-half years

and it was up, down, all around.

It was pretty volatile.

And she was experiencing dating abuse.

It was emotional and verbal abuse,

it was not physical abuse.

I literally woke up every single day and said,
"how can I help her today?"

"What can I say?
Who can I go to?"

There was a stay-away agreement at school,

he showed up anyway.

I asked Jennifer's therapist

to, to help and so many people
I went to and said,

"please, help my daughter."

But I would hear things like, "well,
she's in a bad boy stage,

you just need to let that play out."

It was scary.

Yeah, it was just a toxic relationship

and that's been confirmed
through the statements from Jennifer's friends.

So we knew we had to find Justin.

So I'm going back to the office

and conducting computer research to see
what kind of involvement

Justin had with the Austin
police department

and try to figure out where he was at,

at the time of, of Jennifer's murder.

With all my homicide cases,
I always talked to Bruce about them.

He was my touchstone, he was my rock.

He was the go-to person for me.

My phone rings and it's my supervisor

and...

He was very, very nervous and he was like, "Lisa,
I have to tell you something,"

you know...
Uh, "Bruce killed himself."

And...

Uh...

I just instantly started, uh, shaking.

There are no words

when somebody that you know and you love,

and you admire, and you respect
commits suicide.

I personally do not know...

What was going
through his mind at the time.

He told me that he was gonna retire.

I was a little concerned
about him retiring because he's always worked.

So after his suicide,
everybody goes through this.

"What if I had done this?"
"What if I had done that?"

You know, the back-to-back
murders of these young women

and then Bruce's suicide
absolutely pushed me to the...

To my limit.

I was up.

After his, his suicide,
you know, going back to work,

I felt like did
the other homicide detectives

really want me in that condition

coming back to a unit
where you have to give 150%?

You don't wanna screw it up,
so I had a meeting with the other detectives

and, and the sergeants,
and I actually told them,

"I feel like I'm up.

Um... but I'm trying to work through it.

But if you guys don't feel
that I'm up to par to do the job,

then let me know and then I'll go find

another, another position within
the police department."

After Bruce's death,
when Lisa came back to the office,

um, she did acknowledge
that it was really...

Some... something that's impacted her.

I walked out, let them talk.

But I did not want to leave.

These were cases
that were very, very involved

and taxing on everyone
in the homicide unit.

I knew what Bruce meant to Lisa.

I worked Bruce's suicide.

I remember looking at him and thinking,

"we just played golf together,
like, last week,"

and...

Um...

It just, it doesn't get easy.

But when Lisa expressed that, you know,

she possibly couldn't do
the job anymore,

my thought was to let her know that,
"yes, you can," you know?

"You absolutely
can still do this job

because you're that good
of a detective."

I... to the last one,
every detective, sergeant in that unit was

there behind her 100%.
We needed Lisa.

You know, sure enough,

I came back and they're like, "nope.
We still want you in here."

My coworkers helped me
get through Bruce's death.

I think through the other
homicide detectives' eyes,

when I first came into homicide,

in their eyes I belonged,
but in my own eyes

it wasn't until I got pushed
to the absolute edge after his suicide

and their "yes, we want you here"

that in my mind I felt, "okay, I belong.
I do belong in here."

They taught me,
I guess that...

I'm a lot stronger than
what I even thought I was.

Like I had enough in me

to know that the way
to help me heal

was to go back to a job
that deals with death.

I don't know if that
makes sense to anybody, but...

I felt like...

I felt like that's what I needed.

Because, you know,
and it's not about you.

It's about Jennifer.

Figuring out who did this to her.

I think with Justin Crabbe
and the history of that relationship,

you have to recognize the toxicity

or maybe she just finally had it with him

and this time they were broken up

and, you know,
with a lot of these guys

it gets to be, "well,
if I can't have her, nobody will."

I'm getting a notification

from the crime scene and the detectives out there
that they found a shotgun

in a duffle bag
that was discarded out there.

Around the same time,
I go to the office,

I get a notification that Justin

was seen diving out
the back window of his house,

climbing over a wood privacy fence
to the street behind his

and jumping into a waiting cab

and when he got in the cab, he ducked down.

My sergeant's talking with the officers,

he lets them know that, you know,

they need to go ahead
and stop him and detain him.

He's brought back to the office...

He's defeated
before we even get in a room.

In that interview, he was just like not engaging
at all, parley with me.

Um, he kept playing
his head down on the table.

I'd been working
a long time, right?

This was like starting at 7:00,

or so the night before
and, you know,

and I'm just looking at somebody

that I feel like has just wrecked
a lot of lives

and, um...
I just opened the door, and I grabbed that table,

and I pushed that table out the door.

Now he tells a story
and it's a lot different

than what he was telling before.

And that his friend has
this shotgun in his hands

and he's acting like he's Elmer Fudd

hunting rabbits and hunting
ducks in the woods.

And now he tells a story

that Jennifer is walking about 20 to 30 ft.
In front of him

and his friend,
not paying attention to them,

and Justin says,
"I reached over his hands

and grabbed the shotgun and said,

'let me have it for a minute or whatever'."

And his words were...

I already know that's not true

because I've been briefed
by detective morrill.

So his story didn't match up
to the crime scene.

She was on her knees, bent over,

one arm bent and the other,

like the other hand kind of like
in this position, like in an upward position.

You know, she's trying
to beg for her life

by trying to reason with the shooter.

He realized that she was
directed to get on her knees

and essentially be executed.

We knew that we
were going to arrest him at that point.

In the end, Justin and his lawyer
and the prosecution

came to a plea agreement
for 30 years or 35 years

in the Texas department of corrections...

And...

I don't know,
I just don't feel like that was enough.

It isn't until kinda
after you wrap the case up

and you put the killer in jail

that you sit back
and can breathe a little bit.

So I don't,
I don't really feel complete

until I know that
they're actually in prison.

These amazing detectives,

i'm, I'm still really grateful to them

that they're able to relate to me

and, you know,
I take them cookies down to the homicide unit

and we sit, and we talk.

There were a lot of little kindnesses

along the way and that made me
feel hopeful.

They chose to do their job,
but, but... but with a heart.

I look at all these girls,
they were beautiful,

they were fun-loving,
they were caring, charismatic.

And their killers took
that light from these girls.

They died before they got a chance
to even know who they are.

When you talk
about Jenny Garcia

and Lena Nguyen
and Jennifer crecente,

detective morrill becomes
a part of those stories.

Those stories also become
a part of detective morrill.

I don't ever believe
that the families of the victims

ever get closure.

I think that they learn
to deal with their loss,

but it's always lingering,
they'll never forget.

It's the same thing with me.

I will think about these girls forever.

But I realized afterwards
that working homicide

has been the most satisfying job

within the police department
that I have ever worked.

And sometimes I think,
"what would Bruce tell me?"

He would tell me,
"if you wanna stay there, then stay there."

You just keep going,
you keep moving forward.

Just by doing
this job and doing it right,

doing it with the heart that she has,

she makes other detectives
around her that much better.

It truly is...

It truly is a band
of brothers and sisters.