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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:30,306 --> 00:00:33,999 - Hello, hello, where are you at the moment? 2 00:00:37,313 --> 00:00:39,315 You're gonna love this, you're gonna be on the news 3 00:00:39,349 --> 00:00:41,696 and everything, it's all legal, 4 00:00:41,731 --> 00:00:43,560 there's nothing illegal about it whatsoever, 5 00:00:43,595 --> 00:00:46,011 mate, if, if, if, I promise ya, 6 00:00:46,046 --> 00:00:48,531 I promise ya now, it's, it's, 7 00:00:50,084 --> 00:00:51,465 middle of north-central London now, 8 00:00:51,499 --> 00:00:54,295 I'm at this moment sat on a flat back truck. 9 00:00:54,330 --> 00:00:57,264 All right, we're gonna actually, we're gonna go 10 00:00:57,298 --> 00:00:59,128 and we're gonna acquire one of Banksy's works 11 00:00:59,162 --> 00:01:01,958 and we're gonna hold it to ransom. 12 00:01:04,271 --> 00:01:06,342 The plan was to get it out of there, 13 00:01:06,376 --> 00:01:10,380 under any whatsoever, we had no time 14 00:01:10,415 --> 00:01:12,486 to mess around with it, we had to get in 15 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,970 and get it out, and at the time, 16 00:01:14,004 --> 00:01:16,041 it was when there was a lot of terrorist threats, 17 00:01:16,076 --> 00:01:18,354 it was just after 9/11, it could have been filled 18 00:01:18,388 --> 00:01:22,565 with fucking Semtex, Gelignite, who knows. 19 00:01:22,599 --> 00:01:26,016 - It was planned, like, very precise, yes. 20 00:01:26,051 --> 00:01:27,639 Contingency plans? 21 00:01:27,673 --> 00:01:29,503 I wouldn't run like fuck if it come on top, 22 00:01:29,537 --> 00:01:31,539 no, not really. 23 00:01:31,574 --> 00:01:33,714 - Best time to do it, when it's rush hour, 24 00:01:33,748 --> 00:01:35,267 because the police cameras are busy watching 25 00:01:35,302 --> 00:01:38,063 for other things, do it at two o'clock in the morning, 26 00:01:38,098 --> 00:01:40,341 it looks like you're nicking a fucking statue, 27 00:01:40,376 --> 00:01:41,618 do it at two o'clock in the afternoon, 28 00:01:41,653 --> 00:01:42,723 it looks like you're working for a council, 29 00:01:42,757 --> 00:01:44,138 you're doing a job. 30 00:01:44,173 --> 00:01:45,760 I'm starting to get nervous now, 31 00:01:45,795 --> 00:01:50,524 I'm starting to get very nervous, it's all on, innit? 32 00:01:50,558 --> 00:01:54,735 It's an art theft, and I quite like the thought 33 00:01:54,769 --> 00:01:56,564 of being an international art, 34 00:01:56,599 --> 00:01:59,326 doing an international art crime. 35 00:02:00,396 --> 00:02:03,502 Yeah, now we're fizzing, a bit of panic, 36 00:02:03,537 --> 00:02:05,642 a bit of stress, you know. 37 00:02:10,233 --> 00:02:14,237 I didn't realize then I was opening a fucking Pandora's box. 38 00:02:18,931 --> 00:02:22,935 I'm AK-47, leader and front man of Art Qaeda, 39 00:02:22,970 --> 00:02:26,007 we're an art terrorist organization. 40 00:02:28,907 --> 00:02:31,254 We don't like to go around killing people, 41 00:02:31,289 --> 00:02:35,431 we bomb it with art, we spray paint, we graffiti. 42 00:02:44,543 --> 00:02:47,512 The reason I'm pissed off with Banksy is he refused 43 00:02:47,546 --> 00:02:49,652 to sign my fucking print. 44 00:02:53,103 --> 00:02:55,209 - Britain's most wanted artist. 45 00:02:55,244 --> 00:02:56,693 - What I love about Banksy is 46 00:02:56,728 --> 00:02:58,764 that you think about the message he puts out to the public. 47 00:02:58,799 --> 00:03:00,214 - Stars like Brad Pitt are said 48 00:03:00,249 --> 00:03:03,079 to pay hundreds of thousands of pounds for his pieces. 49 00:03:03,113 --> 00:03:05,219 - He's opened people's eyes to graffiti, 50 00:03:05,254 --> 00:03:06,841 he's like a contemporary anti-hero. 51 00:03:06,876 --> 00:03:11,052 - His work being the target of thieves. 52 00:03:26,758 --> 00:03:28,242 - On the one hand, we have Banksy, 53 00:03:28,277 --> 00:03:30,900 international artist, and on the other hand, 54 00:03:30,934 --> 00:03:34,662 we have Andy, AK-47, Art Qaeda, on the other. 55 00:03:35,836 --> 00:03:39,184 And now, I like Andy, but he's not Banksy. 56 00:03:39,219 --> 00:03:41,704 - Do it, do the fucking thing, 57 00:03:43,602 --> 00:03:45,673 you can get away with it, 58 00:03:47,434 --> 00:03:50,057 put a bomb under a work of art. 59 00:03:52,301 --> 00:03:54,510 I live in a dream world, don't I? 60 00:03:54,544 --> 00:03:57,651 I'm an artist, I live in my, I live in AK-47 world. 61 00:04:07,902 --> 00:04:10,940 My art is not to be bought or sold, 62 00:04:10,974 --> 00:04:12,182 I don't do it for the money, I do it 63 00:04:12,217 --> 00:04:15,841 because I just do it to cause fucking mayhem. 64 00:04:17,015 --> 00:04:19,017 I want to be the thorn in the side of society, 65 00:04:19,051 --> 00:04:21,295 I like poking a stick at the man, 66 00:04:21,330 --> 00:04:22,814 because if you don't poke a stick at the man, 67 00:04:22,848 --> 00:04:25,955 the man fucking beats you with his stick. 68 00:04:25,989 --> 00:04:28,889 Arto political humanism, it's artistic, 69 00:04:28,923 --> 00:04:31,305 it's political, and we're taking the piss. 70 00:04:31,340 --> 00:04:33,031 - AK-47 is a madman. 71 00:04:35,896 --> 00:04:39,555 - Okay, let's go take on the art world. 72 00:04:39,589 --> 00:04:41,660 - He's a man of many hats, football hooligan, 73 00:04:41,695 --> 00:04:45,319 porn star, bad boy, you know, street artist. 74 00:04:47,252 --> 00:04:50,773 - He's at once charming and sensitive, 75 00:04:50,807 --> 00:04:54,984 and also incredibly irritating, and obdurate, and annoying. 76 00:04:56,296 --> 00:04:57,987 - I'm an art, ink art terrorist, 77 00:04:58,021 --> 00:05:01,335 and I'm gonna go where the fuck I want now. 78 00:05:01,370 --> 00:05:04,649 - He's a rebel, he likes to occupy sort 79 00:05:04,683 --> 00:05:09,067 of whatever the risks or the edge might be of anything. 80 00:05:09,101 --> 00:05:12,726 - This is what we fucking want, this is art. 81 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,073 - He wants to be an artist, and he is an artist 82 00:05:15,107 --> 00:05:17,386 to some extent, we're all artists, 83 00:05:17,420 --> 00:05:19,698 he just happens to be a piss artist. 84 00:05:19,733 --> 00:05:22,252 - He's one of these people that will just try anything, 85 00:05:22,287 --> 00:05:25,221 you know, and I think this street art thing just came along 86 00:05:25,255 --> 00:05:27,741 and it just fell into his lap. 87 00:05:29,225 --> 00:05:31,469 - So I came out of this club in Shoreditch one night, 88 00:05:31,503 --> 00:05:32,711 we were looking down on the floor, 89 00:05:32,746 --> 00:05:35,058 I see this white line, but we were laughing, 90 00:05:35,093 --> 00:05:36,681 'cause we were following this white line, 91 00:05:36,715 --> 00:05:39,304 you know, what idiots do that? 92 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:40,961 I bet David and the when they get home 93 00:05:40,995 --> 00:05:44,102 and there's no paint left in the can. 94 00:05:45,724 --> 00:05:48,693 Went all round up through Shoreditch, 95 00:05:48,727 --> 00:05:52,904 it's across a couple of roads, I turned the corner, 96 00:05:54,112 --> 00:05:55,389 and then I saw it, 97 00:06:00,290 --> 00:06:04,398 that's brilliant, that is art. 98 00:06:06,296 --> 00:06:09,852 Then I saw a few more, then different bits all started 99 00:06:09,886 --> 00:06:11,371 to blend in, I just thought, "Wow, 100 00:06:11,405 --> 00:06:14,822 this is something, this is the next thing, 101 00:06:14,857 --> 00:06:18,274 he were doing things I wish I had the balls to do, 102 00:06:18,308 --> 00:06:22,071 it's edgy, and it's illegal, I just loved it, 103 00:06:23,348 --> 00:06:26,040 that's why I went to buy my first print." 104 00:06:42,471 --> 00:06:47,165 - Turf War was Banksy's first kind of major art exhibition, 105 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:48,304 it was a great thing to be part of, 106 00:06:48,338 --> 00:06:51,100 it was, it felt like a movement, 107 00:06:51,134 --> 00:06:52,032 and all the cool people were there, 108 00:06:52,066 --> 00:06:53,033 you know, it was like, you know, 109 00:06:53,067 --> 00:06:54,379 all the DJs were there, and like, 110 00:06:54,414 --> 00:06:56,623 the sort of Shoreditch twats. 111 00:07:00,489 --> 00:07:03,595 - The flying coppers used to be on the bridge at Shoreditch, 112 00:07:03,630 --> 00:07:04,838 I'd already bonded with that, 113 00:07:04,872 --> 00:07:07,461 'cause I saw it on a regular basis. 114 00:07:07,496 --> 00:07:10,706 So I went on in so I could actually buy a print of it, 115 00:07:10,740 --> 00:07:13,087 I thought, "Oh, I love that." And there were two versions 116 00:07:13,122 --> 00:07:17,091 of it, there were the signed print, which runs in 50 quid. 117 00:07:17,126 --> 00:07:20,094 - These are the signed prints, they're 150 quid. 118 00:07:20,129 --> 00:07:21,579 - And there were the unsigned print, 119 00:07:21,613 --> 00:07:23,028 which was 75 pounds. 120 00:07:23,063 --> 00:07:26,307 - These ones are unsigned, they're 75 quid. 121 00:07:26,342 --> 00:07:28,344 - So being the man I am, I went straight 122 00:07:28,378 --> 00:07:31,243 for the 75 pound print, 'cause in my opinion, 123 00:07:31,278 --> 00:07:35,282 I could get Banksy to sign it for me, and we'd all be good. 124 00:07:38,699 --> 00:07:40,011 When, after I'd bought the print, 125 00:07:40,045 --> 00:07:42,013 I was looking around to see if he was there, 126 00:07:42,047 --> 00:07:43,601 and maybe if he was there, I was gonna ask him 127 00:07:43,635 --> 00:07:47,812 to sign it for me, but, you know, can't fucking find him. 128 00:07:53,403 --> 00:07:56,855 - I don't think Banksy's anonymity is a gimmick at all, 129 00:07:56,890 --> 00:08:00,583 I think the guy has always been very, very private, 130 00:08:00,618 --> 00:08:02,551 well, then, I don't think he trusts many people, 131 00:08:02,585 --> 00:08:03,931 and certainly doesn't allow many people 132 00:08:03,966 --> 00:08:07,797 into an inner circle, but AK-47 is persistent. 133 00:08:10,835 --> 00:08:13,044 - My friend were his driver, right, so I says 134 00:08:13,078 --> 00:08:16,254 to my man, "Will you get Banksy to sign the print for me?" 135 00:08:17,911 --> 00:08:22,053 The word from Banksy was, "If I had wanted a signed print, 136 00:08:23,157 --> 00:08:24,365 I should have fucking bought one, 137 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,230 and stop being such a jackass knob and prick." 138 00:08:34,099 --> 00:08:36,032 That fucking incised me, I was like, 139 00:08:36,067 --> 00:08:40,934 "You cheeky twat, he thinks I'm in it for the fucking money." 140 00:08:40,968 --> 00:08:43,108 And I'm not, he didn't realize I wanted it 141 00:08:43,143 --> 00:08:44,869 'cause I loved his fucking work, 142 00:08:44,903 --> 00:08:47,665 and okay, a bit of ego in it, nice to see someone 143 00:08:47,699 --> 00:08:48,873 that signed it to me personally 144 00:08:48,907 --> 00:08:50,978 by somebody who could be famous one day. 145 00:08:51,013 --> 00:08:53,463 - All the best things in life are free for Andy, 146 00:08:53,498 --> 00:08:56,294 who knows, but I think there might be, 147 00:08:56,328 --> 00:08:59,987 there might be a monetary angle to this. 148 00:09:00,022 --> 00:09:01,471 He's a sensitive little soul, 149 00:09:01,506 --> 00:09:03,301 so if you started questioning him about it, he's gonna, 150 00:09:03,335 --> 00:09:06,131 he's gonna put up, you know, a sterling defense. 151 00:09:08,582 --> 00:09:12,552 - Flying copper, signed, sold for 12,500. 152 00:09:13,932 --> 00:09:18,696 The unsigned pieces are worth between four and 6,000. 153 00:09:18,730 --> 00:09:20,594 So Banksy were right, maybe I should have spent 154 00:09:20,629 --> 00:09:23,873 the other 75 fucking quid, but that's not the point. 155 00:09:28,429 --> 00:09:32,123 - He has an incredibly competitive personality, 156 00:09:32,157 --> 00:09:34,643 keen to sort of just step in there 157 00:09:34,677 --> 00:09:38,992 and not really think about the consequences. 158 00:09:39,026 --> 00:09:42,996 - He drew first blood, you disrespect me 159 00:09:43,030 --> 00:09:44,618 and I will follow you to the ends 160 00:09:44,653 --> 00:09:47,000 of the earth to get it back. 161 00:09:48,657 --> 00:09:51,245 Never underestimate your enemy. 162 00:09:58,045 --> 00:10:00,220 - My favorite quote about Andy, about himself, 163 00:10:00,254 --> 00:10:02,774 he went, "I'm like herpes, me," 164 00:10:02,809 --> 00:10:05,777 and I just thought, "Yeah, yeah, actually, you are." 165 00:10:05,812 --> 00:10:07,537 And once you've had a dose, it can come up 166 00:10:07,572 --> 00:10:10,126 at any time without announcing itself, 167 00:10:10,161 --> 00:10:15,097 and it's not really something that you kind of want. 168 00:10:15,131 --> 00:10:17,099 - If you get to know Andy, you don't have 169 00:10:17,133 --> 00:10:18,479 to get to know him really, really well 170 00:10:18,514 --> 00:10:20,896 to actually understand who he is, 171 00:10:20,930 --> 00:10:24,934 because there's so many different personalities. 172 00:10:29,421 --> 00:10:32,045 - I'm always reinventing myself, 173 00:10:32,079 --> 00:10:33,702 I've had so many different characters, 174 00:10:33,736 --> 00:10:36,636 I'm still reinventing to this day. 175 00:10:39,328 --> 00:10:41,468 I started to play football, 176 00:10:41,502 --> 00:10:45,679 so I became a football hooligan for quite a few years. 177 00:10:45,714 --> 00:10:47,785 I got into pornography, you know, 178 00:10:47,819 --> 00:10:51,064 just natural, honest pornography. 179 00:10:51,098 --> 00:10:54,446 Met these guy called police captains , 180 00:10:54,481 --> 00:10:57,311 within three days I'm in a guerrilla army camp, 181 00:10:57,346 --> 00:11:02,040 supplying the Korean National Liberation Army with guns. 182 00:11:02,075 --> 00:11:05,216 In Glastonbury, somebody checked an E down my neck, 183 00:11:05,250 --> 00:11:08,012 and that completely changed it. 184 00:11:08,046 --> 00:11:09,427 - Then he was an acid house organizer, 185 00:11:09,461 --> 00:11:10,704 so he did a massive party 186 00:11:10,739 --> 00:11:13,673 in Wakefield under a motorway bridge. 187 00:11:14,812 --> 00:11:17,055 - I was the acid house scene in Wakefield, 188 00:11:17,090 --> 00:11:20,472 you know what I mean? 189 00:11:20,507 --> 00:11:22,716 - Largest mass arrest in British history, 190 00:11:22,751 --> 00:11:24,200 he was responsible for that. 191 00:11:24,235 --> 00:11:26,720 - I ended up getting 15 months imprisonment, 192 00:11:26,755 --> 00:11:30,551 which came as a bastard shock to me, to be honest. 193 00:11:30,586 --> 00:11:32,243 And that time, I didn't realize 194 00:11:32,277 --> 00:11:36,903 that who I am is an artist, I just thought I were different. 195 00:11:36,937 --> 00:11:40,872 - Andy undertook the phases that any student would take, 196 00:11:40,907 --> 00:11:45,118 starting to identify, what is it that art means for you? 197 00:11:47,085 --> 00:11:48,017 - And, you know, I remember 198 00:11:48,052 --> 00:11:49,985 when those two Chinese guys went 199 00:11:50,019 --> 00:11:52,504 and jumped on Tracey Emin's Bed, 200 00:11:52,539 --> 00:11:53,747 and instead of them getting nicked 201 00:11:53,782 --> 00:11:55,404 for criminal damage, they let 'em off, 202 00:11:55,438 --> 00:11:56,750 'cause they said they were Stuckists, 203 00:11:56,785 --> 00:11:58,476 they were the Stuckists movement, 204 00:11:58,510 --> 00:12:00,443 so I realized that if you say you're an artist, 205 00:12:00,478 --> 00:12:02,583 you can get away with anything you fucking, 206 00:12:02,618 --> 00:12:05,621 it's not criminal damage, it's art. 207 00:12:05,655 --> 00:12:09,763 And then I realized, well, I am an artist. 208 00:12:09,798 --> 00:12:13,042 I am an artist by lifestyle, not by profession, 209 00:12:13,077 --> 00:12:15,665 life is my medium, I can't paint, 210 00:12:15,700 --> 00:12:17,978 but I can come up with ideas I can create in my mind, 211 00:12:18,013 --> 00:12:20,843 I'm conceptual, the first time I called myself 212 00:12:20,878 --> 00:12:24,571 an artist was when I stole the Banksy piece. 213 00:12:41,622 --> 00:12:43,832 - As far as Banksy's concerned, 214 00:12:43,866 --> 00:12:45,730 the first time he spoke to me about it was an idea 215 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:48,491 that was just coming through his head, 216 00:12:48,526 --> 00:12:52,702 and it was gonna be like, an appropriation of space, 217 00:12:55,913 --> 00:12:58,743 in terror-tight central London, 218 00:12:58,778 --> 00:13:01,332 where you could cut the atmosphere with a knife, 219 00:13:01,366 --> 00:13:04,576 and there's cameras looking at you from every angle, 220 00:13:04,611 --> 00:13:06,889 you can actually take space, and use it, 221 00:13:06,924 --> 00:13:09,202 and transform it, and that's precisely 222 00:13:09,236 --> 00:13:11,929 what his sculpture was gonna do. 223 00:13:16,450 --> 00:13:18,349 When all of this was happening, he didn't have any money, 224 00:13:18,383 --> 00:13:19,626 he wasn't interested in money, 225 00:13:19,660 --> 00:13:21,352 money never came into the conversation 226 00:13:21,386 --> 00:13:25,563 about any of this stuff, "I'm gonna make this big statue 227 00:13:26,702 --> 00:13:29,843 and just put it in the middle of this city, 228 00:13:29,878 --> 00:13:32,121 and I'm gonna twist people's brains, 229 00:13:32,156 --> 00:13:33,398 'cause they're gonna wonder 230 00:13:33,433 --> 00:13:36,056 how the fuck this thing got there." 231 00:13:38,576 --> 00:13:41,993 - The idea of Banksy bringing this statue 232 00:13:42,028 --> 00:13:46,895 into the middle of the city, I find that to be a coup. 233 00:13:46,929 --> 00:13:49,380 That, you know, two and a half square miles 234 00:13:49,414 --> 00:13:52,555 or whatever is probably the most surveilled spot 235 00:13:52,590 --> 00:13:54,592 in the whole of England. 236 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,526 - He said it with such intent, it sort 237 00:13:57,560 --> 00:14:00,701 of took my breath away, he's into this more 238 00:14:00,736 --> 00:14:03,256 than I could ever even believe, and I didn't dare 239 00:14:03,290 --> 00:14:06,846 to say, "Well, how the fuck are you gonna do that? 240 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,469 Are you gonna get fucking busted?" 241 00:14:14,198 --> 00:14:16,717 - It seems like the elusive Banksy has struck again, 242 00:14:16,752 --> 00:14:20,204 and this time, he's gone from stencils to statues. 243 00:14:20,238 --> 00:14:23,034 Called The Drinker, it was installed overnight here 244 00:14:23,069 --> 00:14:26,486 in central London without permission. 245 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,040 - Well, The Drinker is a representation 246 00:14:29,075 --> 00:14:31,698 of a very classical piece of sculpture, 247 00:14:31,732 --> 00:14:34,666 which was originally by Rodin in the 19th century, 248 00:14:34,701 --> 00:14:38,256 and Banksy has, of course, totally undermined it, 249 00:14:38,291 --> 00:14:40,914 stuffed a traffic cone on its head, 250 00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:44,159 and undercut a millennia of all of ancient civilization 251 00:14:44,193 --> 00:14:46,816 and philosophical inquiry. 252 00:14:46,851 --> 00:14:48,922 - So far there have been no witnesses, 253 00:14:48,957 --> 00:14:51,062 and it seems that this time, neither the police, 254 00:14:51,097 --> 00:14:52,788 nor the local council will be able 255 00:14:52,822 --> 00:14:55,342 to remove it any time soon. 256 00:14:55,377 --> 00:14:57,275 - You've gotta get a truck, a flatbed truck, 257 00:14:57,310 --> 00:14:59,588 and we've got to get a crane, 258 00:14:59,622 --> 00:15:04,282 who is gonna move an extremely heavy statue on a plinth? 259 00:15:04,317 --> 00:15:06,388 - Suddenly a little plan started, 260 00:15:06,422 --> 00:15:07,630 a little bell started ringing 261 00:15:07,665 --> 00:15:10,392 in my ear, like, ding, ding, ding. 262 00:15:12,497 --> 00:15:16,087 It was a large fucking item out on the street 263 00:15:16,122 --> 00:15:18,641 without any permission, so it was dumped, 264 00:15:18,676 --> 00:15:22,611 it was fly-tipping, I wanted some respect back. 265 00:15:23,957 --> 00:15:26,891 If I take it and say I'm an artist, 266 00:15:28,272 --> 00:15:31,413 there was no, no, nothing no way anybody could stop me going 267 00:15:31,447 --> 00:15:33,553 and getting the fucker. 268 00:15:33,587 --> 00:15:35,520 - Andy was aware of this thing being on the street, 269 00:15:35,555 --> 00:15:38,834 decided to do something about it, appropriate it in a, 270 00:15:38,868 --> 00:15:41,941 you know, in a shameless, thunder-stealing exercise. 271 00:15:46,738 --> 00:15:50,501 - It's a way for him to spring into action. 272 00:15:50,535 --> 00:15:52,813 He's able to galvanize people to spring 273 00:15:52,848 --> 00:15:54,574 into action with him. 274 00:15:56,024 --> 00:16:00,821 - I shout, people fucking listen, and I'm a man that can, 275 00:16:00,856 --> 00:16:03,548 I've got fingers in many pies, 276 00:16:03,583 --> 00:16:05,965 I'd already got my network of connections, 277 00:16:05,999 --> 00:16:07,863 over fucking 30 years of being involved 278 00:16:07,897 --> 00:16:10,762 in every kind of modern cultures. 279 00:16:10,797 --> 00:16:12,005 - As far as these operatives 280 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,524 and who was part of the organization, 281 00:16:13,558 --> 00:16:15,215 it's people who haven't got the strength 282 00:16:15,250 --> 00:16:17,252 to say no to him, really. 283 00:16:22,774 --> 00:16:23,983 - I looked at what I'd gotten, 284 00:16:24,017 --> 00:16:26,951 and I picked the right man for the job. 285 00:16:33,233 --> 00:16:35,822 - Could you tell me your name, please? 286 00:16:35,856 --> 00:16:38,583 - To be honest with you mate, I'd rather not say. 287 00:16:49,974 --> 00:16:52,459 R2IC, mate, second in command, 288 00:16:53,978 --> 00:16:56,981 and also I do logistics and a bit 289 00:16:57,016 --> 00:17:01,123 of a quartermaster, you know, fix things and that. 290 00:17:02,745 --> 00:17:05,162 - Art is not Robert's forte, 291 00:17:05,196 --> 00:17:10,132 he can ship an AK-47 down in about a minute and a half, 292 00:17:10,167 --> 00:17:11,789 but when it comes to knowledge of art, 293 00:17:11,823 --> 00:17:15,103 Robert's not, he's not, that's not his bag. 294 00:17:15,137 --> 00:17:16,828 - What do you consider to be art? 295 00:17:16,863 --> 00:17:17,691 - Me? 296 00:17:21,661 --> 00:17:26,217 A normal flipping painting is art, innit? 297 00:17:26,252 --> 00:17:28,150 You know, you get a little cottage, 298 00:17:28,185 --> 00:17:31,291 a bit of greenery, a fucking lake, 299 00:17:31,326 --> 00:17:34,674 ducks and whatever, that sort of thing, 300 00:17:34,708 --> 00:17:37,987 but circles, squares, and triangles is, 301 00:17:39,161 --> 00:17:41,094 not interested me, so Link, he sat me down, 302 00:17:41,129 --> 00:17:44,753 educated me a bit, Tracey Emins had a tit job, 303 00:17:44,787 --> 00:17:47,100 didn't she, or something, that's about all I learned, 304 00:17:47,135 --> 00:17:50,138 and Banksy's a no-good cunt. 305 00:17:52,692 --> 00:17:55,384 - The art of taking the piss is basically a device 306 00:17:55,419 --> 00:17:58,284 that Andy uses to capture pretty much most 307 00:17:58,318 --> 00:18:01,908 of what he does, and it also gives him a license 308 00:18:01,942 --> 00:18:03,496 to do what he does. 309 00:18:11,504 --> 00:18:15,197 - So here I am, morning of the crime. 310 00:18:15,232 --> 00:18:19,063 I didn't get to bed 'til fucking half past eight 311 00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:22,618 this morning, just sat, mind going numb, like, 312 00:18:22,653 --> 00:18:25,069 and then had these mad, mad dreams. 313 00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:29,315 Really crazy dreams about me stuck in school, 314 00:18:29,349 --> 00:18:32,697 so I have got a fucking conscience, see, 315 00:18:33,802 --> 00:18:37,944 or maybe I'm just tits up. 316 00:18:39,325 --> 00:18:42,086 And it's, everything's so amateurly, it's unbelievable. 317 00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:44,157 I made one phone call to a friend I knew 318 00:18:44,192 --> 00:18:45,745 that run a scrapyard, 319 00:18:45,779 --> 00:18:48,782 and I told him I wanted a truck with a gib. 320 00:18:48,817 --> 00:18:50,681 I'm employing you to do this job, 321 00:18:50,715 --> 00:18:54,029 well, if it comes on top, I will fucking tape the, 322 00:18:54,063 --> 00:18:55,306 go and put that in your lorry, just in case. 323 00:18:55,341 --> 00:18:56,549 - I'm all right. 324 00:18:56,583 --> 00:18:58,723 - Just cover it, just for parking. 325 00:18:58,758 --> 00:18:59,897 I then phoned Robert, and went, 326 00:18:59,931 --> 00:19:02,693 "Hey-ho, Robert, we're off on a caper." 327 00:19:02,727 --> 00:19:05,489 All right, well, we're just waiting now 328 00:19:05,523 --> 00:19:07,905 for the other member of the team, 329 00:19:07,939 --> 00:19:12,151 and I think that might well be our man turning up now, 330 00:19:12,185 --> 00:19:14,670 there he is, agent number two. 331 00:19:16,465 --> 00:19:18,157 Robert's all right in a lot of respects, 332 00:19:18,191 --> 00:19:21,539 but his timekeeping can be, what can we say, iffy. 333 00:19:21,574 --> 00:19:23,541 - We've got to be back by three, though, 334 00:19:23,576 --> 00:19:25,716 gotta collect, or we lose a step, don't I? 335 00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:27,511 - Oh, we're gonna have to , 336 00:19:27,545 --> 00:19:28,374 it's a quarter now. 337 00:19:28,408 --> 00:19:29,202 - What? 338 00:19:29,237 --> 00:19:30,134 - Three. 339 00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:31,515 - A quarter to three? 340 00:19:31,549 --> 00:19:32,964 - Yeah, it's a quarter to fucking three now. 341 00:19:32,999 --> 00:19:34,138 - Oh, you're shitting me. 342 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:35,346 - I'm not, it's, what have you got 343 00:19:35,381 --> 00:19:36,520 to do with it? 344 00:19:36,554 --> 00:19:37,452 - Just collect it from. 345 00:19:37,486 --> 00:19:38,694 - And take it where? 346 00:19:38,729 --> 00:19:39,488 - And look after it 'til four. 347 00:19:39,523 --> 00:19:40,731 - Oh, fuck. 348 00:19:42,974 --> 00:19:46,115 No, cunty fuck, I need somebody, 349 00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:48,083 I can't take you, you're with a kid, Robert. 350 00:19:48,117 --> 00:19:49,567 - You're kidding me. 351 00:19:49,602 --> 00:19:51,983 - I can't take you with a fucking kid legally. 352 00:19:52,018 --> 00:19:53,502 - Gypsies have about 30 in the front. 353 00:19:53,537 --> 00:19:56,505 - Yeah, but that's fucking, 354 00:19:56,540 --> 00:19:59,198 how can you plan something like this, 355 00:19:59,232 --> 00:20:00,923 and then it all go so mad? 356 00:20:00,958 --> 00:20:02,166 - It's art. 357 00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:04,030 - It's not fucking art, it's a fuck-up. 358 00:20:04,064 --> 00:20:06,584 - Yeah, I was babysitting, so I canceled one day, 359 00:20:06,619 --> 00:20:09,346 you know what I mean, and the next day, 360 00:20:09,380 --> 00:20:11,589 we got on with it. 361 00:20:11,624 --> 00:20:12,452 - All right. 362 00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:22,980 I felt the pressure from setting up in the fucking lorry. 363 00:20:23,014 --> 00:20:24,809 I'm starting to get nervous now, 364 00:20:24,844 --> 00:20:27,191 I'm starting to get really nervous. 365 00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:28,917 - It's all on, innit? 366 00:20:28,951 --> 00:20:30,436 Done some funny things in my life, 367 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:33,646 but I've never nicked a statue, never. 368 00:20:37,926 --> 00:20:39,824 - It's an art heist, it's everything, 369 00:20:39,859 --> 00:20:42,171 and it's like, all emotions. 370 00:20:43,414 --> 00:20:44,691 ♪ We're drinking his house 371 00:20:44,726 --> 00:20:46,279 ♪ We're drinking his house 372 00:20:46,314 --> 00:20:49,558 ♪ Watch out, Banksy, we're drinking his house ♪ 373 00:20:49,593 --> 00:20:51,664 ♪ Drinking his eyes 374 00:20:51,698 --> 00:20:53,113 - Oh, we're fucking up. 375 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,603 I've done a lot, a lot of contemplation about this, 376 00:20:59,637 --> 00:21:03,538 a lot of worrying and all that, a lot of ideas. 377 00:21:04,711 --> 00:21:07,058 This could be the bad bit of not planning now, 378 00:21:07,093 --> 00:21:10,027 'cause we don't actually know exactly where it is. 379 00:21:14,825 --> 00:21:15,998 There it is, there it is, there it is, 380 00:21:16,033 --> 00:21:18,829 yeah, there it is, there, there it is, 381 00:21:18,863 --> 00:21:20,624 the art, there it is. 382 00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:26,630 There it is, that's the very first time I've seen it. 383 00:21:26,664 --> 00:21:29,529 Mind blowing, it were like, "Wow, that's fucking good, that. 384 00:21:29,564 --> 00:21:31,876 Yeah, that's fucking brilliant, I like that." 385 00:21:31,911 --> 00:21:34,327 The size of it, the audacity that the bastards 386 00:21:34,362 --> 00:21:39,090 could just plunk it down anywhere he wanted, I like the fact 387 00:21:39,125 --> 00:21:42,577 that the council had freshly washed his name off of it, 388 00:21:42,611 --> 00:21:44,233 they thought it were a legitimate statue 389 00:21:44,268 --> 00:21:48,203 that had been tagged. 390 00:21:49,894 --> 00:21:51,240 Is it fiberglass? 391 00:21:51,275 --> 00:21:52,414 Wicked. 392 00:21:52,449 --> 00:21:55,555 It's fiberglass, it's fucking plastic. 393 00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:58,144 Yeah, that's just gonna lift off in one piece. 394 00:21:58,178 --> 00:22:02,251 Fucking come on, me and my boys will have this. 395 00:22:02,286 --> 00:22:06,808 - The aim here to get that piece without getting caught. 396 00:22:06,842 --> 00:22:09,776 They just rolled up on a flatbed truck, 397 00:22:09,811 --> 00:22:12,745 broad daylight, high-viz jackets on, 398 00:22:12,779 --> 00:22:14,609 acting as if they were commissioned 399 00:22:14,643 --> 00:22:19,165 to actually be there, I mean, that is absolutely priceless, 400 00:22:19,199 --> 00:22:21,754 because sometimes you have to do things 401 00:22:21,788 --> 00:22:25,620 in everybody's face in order to get away with it. 402 00:22:25,654 --> 00:22:27,173 - Right, take your jacket off, 403 00:22:27,207 --> 00:22:29,244 put your gas mask on. 404 00:22:29,278 --> 00:22:31,211 - Why are we wearing gas masks? 405 00:22:31,246 --> 00:22:34,180 Yeah, yeah, that was obviously AK's idea, 406 00:22:34,214 --> 00:22:37,390 I mean, I only use things like that when I need to, 407 00:22:37,425 --> 00:22:39,323 I would not use it in the middle 408 00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:41,739 of the afternoon in the city. 409 00:22:41,774 --> 00:22:42,982 - Why not? 410 00:22:43,016 --> 00:22:45,674 - 'Cause it just looks a bit daft. 411 00:22:47,089 --> 00:22:50,161 - Yeah, Rob, gas mask, where's your gas mask? 412 00:22:50,196 --> 00:22:51,024 Get it on. 413 00:22:52,819 --> 00:22:55,408 Our biggest fear were the police coming 414 00:22:55,443 --> 00:22:58,480 and moving the lorry for illegal parking. 415 00:23:02,208 --> 00:23:05,384 We had no time to mess around with it, 416 00:23:06,868 --> 00:23:09,698 we have to get in and get it out. 417 00:23:25,334 --> 00:23:27,371 - 'Cause all we needed was really, 418 00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:29,546 was an adjustable spanner. 419 00:23:30,961 --> 00:23:32,963 - That's it, mate. 420 00:23:34,965 --> 00:23:36,656 - Rob, we're gonna have to keep its, 421 00:23:36,691 --> 00:23:37,864 will it dust it up? 422 00:23:37,899 --> 00:23:39,038 - Huh? 423 00:23:39,072 --> 00:23:40,453 - Can we protect it stood up? 424 00:23:40,488 --> 00:23:41,316 - What, on the lorry? 425 00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:42,524 - Yeah. 426 00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:46,114 During the heist, I was stood around, 427 00:23:46,148 --> 00:23:48,703 just filming it, and I'm pretty good with a camera, 428 00:23:48,737 --> 00:23:51,153 'cause I used to make porns, so I was quite okay 429 00:23:51,188 --> 00:23:52,431 to do with one thing with one hand 430 00:23:52,465 --> 00:23:54,812 and having a camera in the other. 431 00:23:54,847 --> 00:23:58,229 Yeah, Rob, blindfold him, blindfold him. 432 00:23:59,507 --> 00:24:00,991 - Why are his eyes closed? 433 00:24:01,025 --> 00:24:03,442 - So he doesn't know where he's going, 434 00:24:03,476 --> 00:24:05,305 we're kidnapping him. Hi, how ya doing, 435 00:24:05,340 --> 00:24:06,997 can I ask you to little interview? 436 00:24:07,031 --> 00:24:08,481 - Yeah. 437 00:24:08,516 --> 00:24:09,620 - Okay, have you heard of the artist Banksy? 438 00:24:09,655 --> 00:24:10,863 - Uh, no. 439 00:24:10,897 --> 00:24:14,625 - Thanks a lot, I'm actually robbing it, 440 00:24:14,660 --> 00:24:15,488 I'm stealing it. 441 00:24:15,523 --> 00:24:16,316 - Are you? 442 00:24:16,351 --> 00:24:17,145 - Yeah. 443 00:24:17,179 --> 00:24:17,973 - Okay. 444 00:24:18,008 --> 00:24:19,216 - It's a robbery. 445 00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:20,459 - Where are you gonna put it? 446 00:24:20,493 --> 00:24:21,977 - Well, that's beside the point, mate, 447 00:24:22,012 --> 00:24:23,703 he's the last you'll see of it until the ransom's paid, 448 00:24:23,738 --> 00:24:24,773 we're gonna put him up to ransom. 449 00:24:24,808 --> 00:24:26,016 - Oh, really? 450 00:24:26,050 --> 00:24:29,398 - Yeah, we're ransoming Banksy. 451 00:24:29,433 --> 00:24:31,435 What do you think of it, did you think I'm 452 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:33,851 an artist or a terrorist 'cause I'm stealing his work? 453 00:24:33,886 --> 00:24:37,786 - I think, I don't know artist terrorists, I don't know. 454 00:24:37,821 --> 00:24:38,649 - Where are you from? 455 00:24:38,684 --> 00:24:39,892 - Manchester. 456 00:24:39,926 --> 00:24:41,410 - Yeah, well, you're all about, 457 00:24:41,445 --> 00:24:43,274 you're all about thieving things from Manchester. 458 00:24:43,309 --> 00:24:45,518 - He does like taking a photo, 459 00:24:45,553 --> 00:24:48,417 one taking photos and me running around the bleeding thing, 460 00:24:48,452 --> 00:24:50,730 you do get a bit warm, you know what I mean? 461 00:24:52,732 --> 00:24:56,080 - We've done it, innit, art robbery, 462 00:24:56,115 --> 00:24:58,773 and we've done it, and we got it documented. 463 00:24:58,807 --> 00:25:00,982 So I might not have a fuck E to that, 464 00:25:01,016 --> 00:25:03,812 both of you deserve one, I think I'll have two. 465 00:25:03,847 --> 00:25:05,055 Do you want a cigar? 466 00:25:05,089 --> 00:25:06,263 - No, I'm all right, mate, 467 00:25:06,297 --> 00:25:07,851 I'm gonna roll a spliff in a minute. 468 00:25:22,693 --> 00:25:25,075 - Yeah, it's not gonna do it, is it? 469 00:25:25,109 --> 00:25:26,283 Will you hold two the camera there for us, mate? 470 00:25:26,317 --> 00:25:27,940 I'll see if I can help him. 471 00:25:27,974 --> 00:25:29,631 - I'm already open, 472 00:25:29,666 --> 00:25:31,978 it gives me something to do, don't it? 473 00:25:32,013 --> 00:25:33,221 What's that statue there? 474 00:25:33,255 --> 00:25:35,016 - Banksy's a famous artist, I think. 475 00:25:35,050 --> 00:25:36,258 - Yeah? 476 00:25:36,293 --> 00:25:37,501 - Yeah, they all nicked it. 477 00:25:50,376 --> 00:25:52,067 - Can I pick someone and tell 'em it's raining? 478 00:25:52,102 --> 00:25:55,554 - Yeah, go for it, go for it. 479 00:25:58,315 --> 00:26:01,145 - We're doing the fucking. 480 00:26:01,180 --> 00:26:01,974 - Is that it, is that it? 481 00:26:02,008 --> 00:26:02,940 - Yes! 482 00:26:13,399 --> 00:26:16,229 I am now in possession of you, Banksy! 483 00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:37,699 Euphoric, euphoric, like I've nicked the best thing ever. 484 00:26:43,567 --> 00:26:47,709 I was a hero, I've done what I said I were gonna do. 485 00:27:07,556 --> 00:27:11,664 That's when I suddenly realized, well, this is it. 486 00:27:12,941 --> 00:27:14,529 I've found my niche. 487 00:27:18,050 --> 00:27:20,708 I've always been a piss-taker, 488 00:27:20,742 --> 00:27:24,608 and it should be accepted that there's an art in it, 489 00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:27,024 and I'm a fine artist at it. 490 00:27:32,374 --> 00:27:34,687 - Yeah, it felt good, mate, it felt like, 491 00:27:34,722 --> 00:27:35,964 you know, when you score a goal, 492 00:27:35,999 --> 00:27:37,621 I suppose, and you're a footballer, 493 00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:39,658 and you get it, all the 494 00:27:39,692 --> 00:27:42,453 yeah, similar to that, I suppose. 495 00:27:45,733 --> 00:27:46,906 - Well, the next part of the plan was 496 00:27:46,941 --> 00:27:49,495 to let him know I've got it, 497 00:27:49,529 --> 00:27:50,807 I wasn't just gonna ring up and say, 498 00:27:50,841 --> 00:27:53,602 "Oh, listen, I've nicked your statue." 499 00:27:53,637 --> 00:27:57,917 I'm an art terrorist, let's fucking poke the nest again. 500 00:28:04,752 --> 00:28:08,894 Champagne to celebrate, I think we might as well. 501 00:28:15,521 --> 00:28:17,419 I've even got that to send in a letter, 502 00:28:17,454 --> 00:28:20,353 in an envelope, look, either pay the ransom 503 00:28:20,388 --> 00:28:24,461 or it gets it. 504 00:28:24,495 --> 00:28:28,672 - With AK-47 nicking it is just grist to Banksy's mill, 505 00:28:30,122 --> 00:28:32,400 definitely pique his interest, 506 00:28:32,434 --> 00:28:34,851 who is this person who would just come along 507 00:28:34,885 --> 00:28:36,887 and fucking take it? 508 00:28:36,922 --> 00:28:40,063 - I am AK-47, leader and front man 509 00:28:40,097 --> 00:28:44,274 of the arto-political humorist group, Art Qaeda. 510 00:28:44,308 --> 00:28:48,209 We have your statue, you must meet our demands. 511 00:28:50,418 --> 00:28:52,316 I am AK-47. 512 00:28:54,594 --> 00:28:55,423 Is Banksy. 513 00:28:57,874 --> 00:28:59,047 Hi, I'm AK-47. 514 00:29:01,636 --> 00:29:03,776 To be honest, I would have to be high on drugs. 515 00:29:03,811 --> 00:29:06,710 Shut up, fucking hell, this is not going well. 516 00:29:07,918 --> 00:29:10,507 Hi, I'm AK-47, leader and front man 517 00:29:10,541 --> 00:29:13,855 of the atto-political, fucking bullocks. 518 00:29:16,271 --> 00:29:21,035 Basic, basically, I've done it, I've pulled off a scoop. 519 00:29:21,069 --> 00:29:23,106 - Yeah, I was on the top deck of a 38, 520 00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:24,728 and when Andy calls and goes, "I've stolen a Banksy," 521 00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:26,626 I goes, "What, where, from what?" 522 00:29:26,661 --> 00:29:29,422 "It's a statue," and he explained the whole thing. 523 00:29:29,457 --> 00:29:31,424 - By me stealing his art, does that mean make it, 524 00:29:31,459 --> 00:29:33,530 does that mean, make it, make me a fucking terrorist, 525 00:29:33,564 --> 00:29:35,014 or does that make me an artist on top of his art? 526 00:29:35,049 --> 00:29:36,740 - Oh, shut up, will you. 527 00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,190 - Oh, totally out of the blue, 528 00:29:38,224 --> 00:29:39,398 I can remember the phone call like it was yesterday. 529 00:29:39,432 --> 00:29:42,125 - It's a lad's mag fucking story, innit? 530 00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:45,956 But it's also art. 531 00:29:45,991 --> 00:29:48,303 - That was it, and I was part of it, you know, 532 00:29:48,338 --> 00:29:50,443 first recruit into the, the movement. 533 00:29:54,068 --> 00:29:57,347 - I knew AK-47 on his own just wouldn't cut it. 534 00:30:01,627 --> 00:30:04,216 And it always sounds better if there's lots of you, 535 00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:06,977 if you're an organization, rather than one person. 536 00:30:11,257 --> 00:30:12,741 - I think, think he wanted to sort 537 00:30:12,776 --> 00:30:15,537 of broaden his horizons and make it more like a terrorist, 538 00:30:15,572 --> 00:30:18,195 an arto-terrorist organization. 539 00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:20,266 Um, is that the right word? 540 00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:26,272 - What's the AK stand for? 541 00:30:26,307 --> 00:30:30,242 Well, we bounced it around, we came up with Art Qaeda. 542 00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:03,585 - I don't know "Enabling a fragile snowflake" would do much 543 00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:06,934 for me, what, what is it, what is, what, 544 00:31:06,968 --> 00:31:08,659 how would you enable a fragile snowflake, 545 00:31:08,694 --> 00:31:12,008 that doesn't really make sense, does it? 546 00:31:27,644 --> 00:31:29,128 This is the Link-y of it, isn't it? 547 00:31:29,163 --> 00:31:33,063 Not enough shite in there, it needs some more asses. 548 00:31:45,282 --> 00:31:48,182 Art Qaeda are the come Unstuckists. 549 00:31:53,152 --> 00:31:54,602 I think he'd like that idea that, 550 00:31:54,636 --> 00:31:56,431 like, you know, people around the world get this idea 551 00:31:56,466 --> 00:32:00,194 of stealing art and taking the piss could be a movement, 552 00:32:00,228 --> 00:32:02,368 he actually does want to bomb Glastonbury, 553 00:32:02,403 --> 00:32:04,957 and sort of kill everybody who owns an Apple Mac, 554 00:32:04,992 --> 00:32:06,786 but it's just in his head. 555 00:32:06,821 --> 00:32:07,960 - It suddenly grew, and it did grow 556 00:32:07,995 --> 00:32:10,169 into an army within weeks, 557 00:32:10,204 --> 00:32:14,208 people wanted to have a, see what we were up to next. 558 00:32:14,242 --> 00:32:17,245 Art Qaeda! 559 00:32:21,525 --> 00:32:24,114 I kidnapped Tracey Emin off of the wall 560 00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:28,636 of the Hackney Empire, she wasn't fucking happy at all, 561 00:32:28,670 --> 00:32:33,123 especially when we sent it back and it didn't work. 562 00:32:33,158 --> 00:32:35,401 Bildrum would unveil his new work of art, 563 00:32:35,436 --> 00:32:39,819 which had an Icelandic theme to it, so we nicked it, 564 00:32:39,854 --> 00:32:43,754 flew it to Iceland, and we did a big burial ceremony. 565 00:32:43,789 --> 00:32:47,517 Art Qaeda strikes again, who is the next one? 566 00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:51,314 Doug Fishbone, he made this sculpture, 567 00:32:51,348 --> 00:32:53,247 it was just a big pyramid of fucking bananas. 568 00:32:53,281 --> 00:32:54,973 I turned up in a gorilla suit, 569 00:32:55,007 --> 00:32:58,045 stuck a sign in the top, "arto-political humourism." 570 00:32:58,079 --> 00:32:59,667 - Which I really don't know exactly what that means, 571 00:32:59,701 --> 00:33:01,220 but he's been using it for 10 years, 572 00:33:01,255 --> 00:33:03,429 so it must be relevant for something. 573 00:33:03,464 --> 00:33:05,362 - I'm a guerrilla outfit, you know, 574 00:33:05,397 --> 00:33:07,295 I run a guerrilla organization, 575 00:33:07,330 --> 00:33:11,610 and there were bananas, it was just too fucking easy. 576 00:33:11,644 --> 00:33:15,200 - Suddenly, people knew this name, AK-47, 577 00:33:15,234 --> 00:33:16,684 you know, especially Banksy. 578 00:33:16,718 --> 00:33:21,171 - Art Qaeda, we are here, which you cannot acknowledge now. 579 00:33:21,206 --> 00:33:24,036 - So there we are with this guy, who was saying 580 00:33:24,071 --> 00:33:28,661 that he was holding this Drinker for a ransom. 581 00:33:28,696 --> 00:33:32,872 - And that's all, folks. 582 00:33:34,081 --> 00:33:36,393 We will be in touch. 583 00:33:36,428 --> 00:33:38,809 We made a ransom note, I think it said, 584 00:33:38,844 --> 00:33:41,260 "Help me please, Banksy," and I just put it 585 00:33:41,295 --> 00:33:45,402 on one, one sheet of paper, , 586 00:33:45,437 --> 00:33:47,887 and it, it just ran like a proper terrorist thing then, 587 00:33:47,922 --> 00:33:51,477 you know, and it just went like I wanted it to, really. 588 00:33:51,512 --> 00:33:53,065 We're gonna issue our demands, 589 00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:55,378 and see, I'll only send it when I want you. 590 00:33:55,412 --> 00:33:56,896 - The money. 591 00:33:56,931 --> 00:34:00,383 - Yeah, it's not the money, it's not for the money. 592 00:34:01,867 --> 00:34:06,044 Attention of Banksy, that's... 593 00:34:12,464 --> 00:34:14,880 I think I'll have a biscuit. 594 00:34:14,914 --> 00:34:18,056 - He came up with this idea to call The Guardian, 595 00:34:18,090 --> 00:34:20,851 and Simon Hattenstone was his go-between. 596 00:34:20,886 --> 00:34:24,096 - Simon Hattenstone then becomes hostage negotiator, 597 00:34:24,131 --> 00:34:26,685 not because he wanted to, but he was the only one 598 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,514 with contacts to us both. 599 00:34:43,736 --> 00:34:46,705 - Yeah, it's true, it had gone. 600 00:34:46,739 --> 00:34:50,088 We received a ransom letter with some pictures 601 00:34:50,122 --> 00:34:54,333 of the statue, with GafferTape over its eyes and mouth, 602 00:34:54,368 --> 00:34:56,094 it looked quite good, actually. 603 00:34:56,128 --> 00:34:57,543 - I said, "I'll take five grand for it," 604 00:34:57,578 --> 00:34:59,718 that's what I said, I said, "I'll take five grand," 605 00:34:59,752 --> 00:35:02,307 to cover expenses and a drink out of it, 606 00:35:02,341 --> 00:35:04,378 enough to buy a Banksy canvas. 607 00:35:04,412 --> 00:35:06,069 - So I told him I was only prepared 608 00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:08,382 to leave money in a suitcase on the condition 609 00:35:08,416 --> 00:35:11,316 that they dump The Drinker in the Serpentine Gallery, 610 00:35:11,350 --> 00:35:14,871 or the New Tate, or next to The Cenotaph in Whitehall. 611 00:35:14,905 --> 00:35:16,976 - Cheeky fucking, if he can't fucking do it, 612 00:35:17,011 --> 00:35:19,841 I'm not doing his work for him, I'm not taking the piss. 613 00:35:19,876 --> 00:35:21,981 - Well, I had a think about it, 614 00:35:22,016 --> 00:35:23,466 and I said I was willing to give him two pounds 615 00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:26,469 towards a can of petrol, it has to be unleaded, mind, 616 00:35:26,503 --> 00:35:28,333 so they can incinerate the thing. 617 00:35:28,367 --> 00:35:30,507 - Fine, tell him to give me a petrol can 618 00:35:30,542 --> 00:35:33,407 and sign the petrol can, and I'll do it. 619 00:35:33,441 --> 00:35:34,511 - Well, my only regret was 620 00:35:34,546 --> 00:35:36,582 that I thought that The Drinker 621 00:35:36,617 --> 00:35:37,825 on fire would look a lot better 622 00:35:37,859 --> 00:35:40,103 than my Drinker, which is annoying, 623 00:35:40,138 --> 00:35:42,001 but that was my final offer. 624 00:35:42,036 --> 00:35:43,727 - Banksy was like, "I'm not playing with him, 625 00:35:43,762 --> 00:35:45,246 you've stole my thunder," 626 00:35:45,281 --> 00:35:47,179 seems to me like you were a right minger, 627 00:35:47,214 --> 00:35:50,941 little fucking spoiled brat, and I didn't just get him 628 00:35:50,976 --> 00:35:53,392 an art one-piece, I got him the front cover 629 00:35:53,427 --> 00:35:55,774 and a two page fucking spread, 630 00:35:55,808 --> 00:35:58,466 he couldn't have bought that publicity I got him, 631 00:35:58,501 --> 00:36:01,262 so I asked him, , I thought, "Well, you know, 632 00:36:01,297 --> 00:36:03,402 it'll go nice, well, thanks for that," 633 00:36:03,437 --> 00:36:05,991 again, I thought I'd done him a fucking favor. 634 00:36:06,025 --> 00:36:09,305 All I'd happy with were to meet the guy from it, 635 00:36:09,339 --> 00:36:11,859 and he could have had it back. 636 00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:14,586 - Well, actually, I was quite glad 637 00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:16,450 to be rid of him, the thing is, I only live in a small flat, 638 00:36:16,484 --> 00:36:18,003 so I didn't really have the space. 639 00:36:18,037 --> 00:36:19,936 - He didn't give a fuck, I've got a fucking Banksy 640 00:36:19,970 --> 00:36:21,524 in my backyard that were going up 641 00:36:21,558 --> 00:36:23,526 in value every fucking week. 642 00:36:30,602 --> 00:36:34,606 I loved it, I loved my statue in my garden. 643 00:36:35,952 --> 00:36:37,125 It were great, you know, I used 644 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,851 to look out my window and see it, 645 00:36:38,886 --> 00:36:40,577 all the neighbors liked it. 646 00:36:43,787 --> 00:36:45,375 My neighbors used to say, "I love that statue," 647 00:36:45,410 --> 00:36:47,412 you know, "It's great, that we walk past 648 00:36:47,446 --> 00:36:50,138 that bit of garden and smile every time we see it." 649 00:36:53,314 --> 00:36:56,421 Yeah, of course I got attached to it. 650 00:37:00,977 --> 00:37:04,152 - Um, well, a scrupulous honesty is a, 651 00:37:05,292 --> 00:37:08,156 is a rare commodity in the art world. 652 00:37:09,537 --> 00:37:10,607 If someone had come to me then, 653 00:37:10,642 --> 00:37:13,472 "I've got the drinker," I'd have gone, 654 00:37:13,507 --> 00:37:18,166 "Hmm, how tall is it, will it fit in my gallery?" 655 00:37:18,201 --> 00:37:20,341 If someone comes to me with some piece 656 00:37:20,376 --> 00:37:23,413 of street art they removed off the street, 657 00:37:23,448 --> 00:37:25,760 then all they've done is create a vacancy. 658 00:37:25,795 --> 00:37:28,038 - I mean, what you have to understand is the art world 659 00:37:28,073 --> 00:37:31,076 is manifestly corrupt, right across the board. 660 00:37:31,110 --> 00:37:33,630 What there is is people doing the dinner party circuit 661 00:37:33,665 --> 00:37:36,150 in West London, in Hollywood, et cetera, 662 00:37:36,184 --> 00:37:39,912 and they want to have the best, the biggest Banksy, 663 00:37:39,947 --> 00:37:42,570 it's, "Come and have a look at my Banksy." 664 00:37:42,605 --> 00:37:45,228 - Obviously Banksy is bankable, he always wanted to be, 665 00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:47,989 why did he call himself Banksy, robbing banks? 666 00:37:48,024 --> 00:37:49,750 We were just doing a bit of bankability for him, 667 00:37:49,784 --> 00:37:53,995 we're just taking his play on his name one step further. 668 00:37:55,549 --> 00:37:59,553 - I started to think about covering my ass legally. 669 00:37:59,587 --> 00:38:03,453 The best thing to do is be a good citizen, 670 00:38:03,488 --> 00:38:06,560 go to the police and say, "Look what I've found." 671 00:38:08,941 --> 00:38:11,047 - If you find a gold watch on the floor, 672 00:38:11,081 --> 00:38:13,636 you take it to the police station, if you're daft enough to, 673 00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:16,017 it potentially could become yours. 674 00:38:16,052 --> 00:38:18,917 - So I walked into the police station, 675 00:38:18,951 --> 00:38:20,781 a copper came out and says, "Can I help you?" 676 00:38:20,815 --> 00:38:24,681 And I says, "Yeah, I'd like to report a found statue." 677 00:38:24,716 --> 00:38:25,786 So he goes, "Okay, let me write," 678 00:38:25,820 --> 00:38:27,201 and he stood at his blotter and, 679 00:38:27,235 --> 00:38:30,204 "Okay, so, can you describe it?" 680 00:38:30,238 --> 00:38:34,381 It's a 10 foot statue, a copy of Rodin's The Thinker. 681 00:38:37,625 --> 00:38:38,592 - It's a what? 682 00:38:38,626 --> 00:38:40,076 - He laughed, just goes, 683 00:38:40,110 --> 00:38:42,561 "How the fuck did you find a statue like that?" 684 00:38:42,596 --> 00:38:46,807 And I said, "Look, it's by a graffiti artist, 685 00:38:46,841 --> 00:38:48,947 and he's put it out there, it's a piece 686 00:38:48,981 --> 00:38:51,087 of street art, I think." 687 00:38:52,778 --> 00:38:54,228 "How the fuck did you get that?" 688 00:38:54,262 --> 00:38:56,230 "Well, I took it in a lorry." 689 00:38:56,264 --> 00:38:57,714 "In a lorry, but you just found it?" 690 00:38:57,749 --> 00:38:59,820 I'm not gonna sit here and explain the concepts 691 00:38:59,854 --> 00:39:02,995 and legalities of street art to a policeman, 692 00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:07,103 you know, it's a little bit out of your field. 693 00:39:07,137 --> 00:39:09,933 - You're fucking right it's out of my fucking field. 694 00:39:09,968 --> 00:39:11,107 - And he said, "You know what, man, 695 00:39:11,141 --> 00:39:13,247 I haven't got fucking time for this, 696 00:39:13,281 --> 00:39:15,145 just give me the fucking details." 697 00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:18,632 He says, "We've nowhere to store it." 698 00:39:18,666 --> 00:39:22,774 I says, "It's okay, I've got somewhere safe for it." 699 00:39:22,808 --> 00:39:24,327 He gave me a little green slip saying, 700 00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:27,157 "There you go, if nobody gets in touch within three months." 701 00:39:27,192 --> 00:39:28,849 - It's yours. 702 00:39:28,883 --> 00:39:32,197 - Andy did what I think is a really sophisticated act, 703 00:39:32,231 --> 00:39:34,372 to have gone and reported it found. 704 00:39:34,406 --> 00:39:38,065 - Technically, the law being constructs, 705 00:39:38,099 --> 00:39:40,550 he does own it, unless the artist came forward 706 00:39:40,585 --> 00:39:43,829 and said, "Actually, I created this work of art, 707 00:39:43,864 --> 00:39:46,004 "and it belongs to me by default." 708 00:39:46,038 --> 00:39:49,352 But then, they can be like, "Well," you know, 709 00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:52,942 "Now we know who you are, then your nicked, son." 710 00:39:55,151 --> 00:39:58,361 - I felt like Neville Chamberlain, "In my hand is a piece 711 00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:02,538 "of paper declaring the war with Banksy is over." 712 00:40:09,855 --> 00:40:11,823 - Andy went to the police, 713 00:40:11,857 --> 00:40:13,963 then the piece became legally his, 714 00:40:13,997 --> 00:40:17,104 and he had it put in his garden, 715 00:40:17,138 --> 00:40:20,072 and then, I understand that Banksy had a bit 716 00:40:20,107 --> 00:40:23,731 of a sense of humor failure about this, 717 00:40:23,766 --> 00:40:26,700 which I slightly sympathize with. 718 00:40:32,153 --> 00:40:34,811 - I'm not quite sure how bothered Banksy was 719 00:40:34,846 --> 00:40:37,573 about the situation, but I feel 720 00:40:37,607 --> 00:40:39,747 that it may have pissed him off, 721 00:40:39,782 --> 00:40:42,750 you know, even ever so slightly. 722 00:40:42,785 --> 00:40:45,615 You have the impression from Andy 723 00:40:45,650 --> 00:40:48,342 that he would have milked that for a long time, 724 00:40:48,376 --> 00:40:50,931 he probably would have made 100 videos out of that. 725 00:40:50,965 --> 00:40:52,967 - We are the revolution. 726 00:40:55,694 --> 00:40:58,110 This, this is the revolution. 727 00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:02,701 - I think Banksy just wanted it to stop. 728 00:41:04,669 --> 00:41:08,880 - This shady funking mank started to get involved, 729 00:41:08,914 --> 00:41:12,780 dodging over from the other side of the , 730 00:41:12,815 --> 00:41:14,299 he'd seen it in me backyard and he were one 731 00:41:14,333 --> 00:41:17,613 of the few people that knew it was in my back garden, 732 00:41:17,647 --> 00:41:20,098 and he just constantly kept hounding me about it, 733 00:41:20,132 --> 00:41:24,205 and I'm like, "Fuck off, scally fucker." 734 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,070 So three to six months later, an old friend of mine says, 735 00:41:27,105 --> 00:41:28,313 "Will you come to Rotterdam with me? 736 00:41:28,347 --> 00:41:29,210 "I've got to pick up my dog." 737 00:41:30,522 --> 00:41:33,974 And funnily enough, that fucking scummy, 738 00:41:34,008 --> 00:41:37,287 fucking scally rings me up, "Hey, 739 00:41:37,322 --> 00:41:40,394 "can we take Monday , 'cause the fucking 740 00:41:40,428 --> 00:41:41,913 "are playing, I'll be in London," and I'm like, 741 00:41:41,947 --> 00:41:45,468 "No, mate, I won't be back now until Sunday night." 742 00:41:49,576 --> 00:41:53,234 I gets home on the Sunday afternoon, 743 00:41:53,269 --> 00:41:55,823 goes to take my beloved dog for a walk, 744 00:41:55,858 --> 00:41:59,344 and as I come around the back, horror. 745 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,325 Stolen, stolen, gone. 746 00:42:21,297 --> 00:42:22,194 Striking the same pose 747 00:42:22,229 --> 00:42:24,300 as his beloved Banksy sculpture, 748 00:42:24,334 --> 00:42:26,958 the owner says the fiberglass Drinker has been stolen 749 00:42:26,992 --> 00:42:29,374 from his back garden in Hackney. 750 00:42:29,408 --> 00:42:32,066 - I went to the press, I went straight to the press, 751 00:42:32,101 --> 00:42:35,725 I have to let the world know that I am the legal owner. 752 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,968 I put posters up round the street; 753 00:42:37,002 --> 00:42:39,971 Did anybody see anything? 754 00:42:40,005 --> 00:42:43,871 'cause I got the antiquities police involved. 755 00:42:43,906 --> 00:42:45,390 Look, this is a work by Banksy, 756 00:42:45,424 --> 00:42:47,392 it's an important work by Banksy, 757 00:42:47,426 --> 00:42:50,188 could be worth up to a million quid in a few years time, 758 00:42:50,222 --> 00:42:54,399 it has to be down as a stolen work of art. 759 00:42:54,433 --> 00:42:56,366 So that's what they did, it's registered down, 760 00:42:56,401 --> 00:43:00,060 if that piece comes up on the world market, it is stolen. 761 00:43:00,094 --> 00:43:01,993 - The police accept he is the legal owner, 762 00:43:02,027 --> 00:43:04,133 even though he found and took the work himself 763 00:43:04,167 --> 00:43:06,376 from Shaftesbury Avenue three years ago. 764 00:43:06,411 --> 00:43:09,172 - I was at an old villain's house in Essex, 765 00:43:09,207 --> 00:43:10,622 and he is an old villain, and, you know, 766 00:43:10,657 --> 00:43:14,695 all his friends, they're all old villains. 767 00:43:14,730 --> 00:43:16,835 "Did you hear about the statue?" 768 00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:19,976 I said, "Yes, of course," and he said, 769 00:43:20,011 --> 00:43:22,254 "I was the one that snatched it back." 770 00:43:22,289 --> 00:43:26,569 So I nearly fell over, I was like, "What?" 771 00:43:26,604 --> 00:43:29,089 They did exactly the same as what he did, 772 00:43:29,123 --> 00:43:33,403 they rolled up to AK-47's house, high-viz jackets, 773 00:43:33,438 --> 00:43:36,441 you know, hard hats, backed up the truck 774 00:43:36,475 --> 00:43:39,099 and just loaded it onto the... 775 00:43:39,133 --> 00:43:41,066 - I knew straightaway what had fucking gone on, 776 00:43:41,101 --> 00:43:45,001 and it took me 30 seconds to work out who, what, and why. 777 00:43:45,036 --> 00:43:46,693 "I don't know what you're fucking talking about, 778 00:43:46,727 --> 00:43:49,074 Linky, I don't know, it's not to fucking do with me, 779 00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:50,558 hey, hey, you've got this all wrong, 780 00:43:50,593 --> 00:43:53,285 you've got this all fucking wrong." 781 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,597 I knew I hadn't got it wrong, 782 00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:56,392 I knew damn well what had gone on. 783 00:43:56,426 --> 00:43:58,394 He told them that I wouldn't be there 784 00:43:58,428 --> 00:44:01,466 and it was in my back garden. 785 00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:05,677 - Only one person would commission other people 786 00:44:05,712 --> 00:44:07,368 to take this piece of art. 787 00:44:07,403 --> 00:44:10,199 - Well, it's obvious who fucking set it up, innit, 788 00:44:10,233 --> 00:44:12,442 it doesn't take two and two to make that out. 789 00:44:12,477 --> 00:44:14,721 - I don't know whether Banksy had it stolen back or not, 790 00:44:14,755 --> 00:44:18,621 but the word is that him or his people did. 791 00:44:21,831 --> 00:44:23,626 - And I got a phone call from his manager, 792 00:44:23,661 --> 00:44:25,352 Steve Lazarides, he says, "Oh, 793 00:44:25,386 --> 00:44:26,940 I've heard you've had the statue stolen, 794 00:44:26,974 --> 00:44:30,357 oh, I'm really sorry to hear that, but we haven't got it." 795 00:44:30,391 --> 00:44:33,256 But he, what he said to me was the giveaway, 796 00:44:33,291 --> 00:44:36,570 'cause he said to me, "Well, you'll do all right, 797 00:44:36,604 --> 00:44:40,678 you've still got the traffic cone, haven't you?" 798 00:44:42,403 --> 00:44:44,716 Now, how did he know that? 799 00:44:49,997 --> 00:44:54,415 - There are four basic human needs, 800 00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:56,935 food, sleep, sex, and revenge. 801 00:44:59,766 --> 00:45:02,941 - He's on the antiquities stolen squad, 802 00:45:02,976 --> 00:45:05,633 so Banksy couldn't do fuck-all with it. 803 00:45:05,668 --> 00:45:07,083 So I had actually assumed that he did 804 00:45:07,118 --> 00:45:10,708 what he wanted to do and destroyed it. 805 00:45:20,787 --> 00:45:25,067 Devastation, you know, I'd been cocky as fuck, 806 00:45:25,101 --> 00:45:27,932 and suddenly I were devastated, 807 00:45:27,966 --> 00:45:31,556 I felt like me stomach had been ripped open, 808 00:45:31,590 --> 00:45:34,766 by this time, I'd have put the statue at 100 grand, 809 00:45:34,801 --> 00:45:36,699 it's like I'd just lost 100,000 pound out 810 00:45:36,734 --> 00:45:39,357 of me back garden, and how would you feel? 811 00:45:39,391 --> 00:45:42,878 Like, it just became a bit of a fucking joke. 812 00:45:48,538 --> 00:45:52,853 I hid my head in shame and . 813 00:46:04,658 --> 00:46:06,902 - He's become the thinker, hadn't he? 814 00:46:06,936 --> 00:46:09,387 He's like, really fucking, "How am I gonna work this out, 815 00:46:09,421 --> 00:46:11,665 and how am I gonna, fucking," 816 00:46:11,699 --> 00:46:13,149 maybe he should stick the traffic cone 817 00:46:13,184 --> 00:46:15,738 on his head and assume position 818 00:46:15,773 --> 00:46:19,466 and just occupy his time like that for some time, 819 00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:23,401 and the thinking cap may bring some enlightenment 820 00:46:23,435 --> 00:46:25,299 to his personal predicament. 821 00:46:34,377 --> 00:46:35,620 - It's a bunch of villains 822 00:46:35,654 --> 00:46:37,346 that have come and taken this statue, 823 00:46:37,380 --> 00:46:41,488 so they've got no idea the cone even belonged to the statue, 824 00:46:41,522 --> 00:46:43,352 they probably thought that someone had just put it 825 00:46:43,386 --> 00:46:47,563 on there by mistake, or for a laugh, or for a giggle. 826 00:46:47,597 --> 00:46:49,047 - The whole point of this is, which, 827 00:46:49,082 --> 00:46:51,360 everybody is fucking missing, 828 00:46:51,394 --> 00:46:55,364 the actual Drinker is not the work of art, 829 00:46:55,398 --> 00:46:59,057 The Drinker is a copy of Rodin's The Thinker. 830 00:46:59,092 --> 00:47:01,853 The work of art in itself is this, 831 00:47:03,268 --> 00:47:06,133 that's the fucking piece, because that's the only thing 832 00:47:06,168 --> 00:47:08,342 that Banksy's paws have touched. 833 00:47:08,377 --> 00:47:09,550 - So he's got this, he's got one part 834 00:47:09,585 --> 00:47:12,174 of the original sculpture, that's fine, 835 00:47:12,208 --> 00:47:15,177 I mean, but it is, it's a road cone. 836 00:47:16,350 --> 00:47:18,663 - So that is the work of art, that's all 837 00:47:18,697 --> 00:47:21,252 that's the fucking Banksy, and that's what's got, 838 00:47:21,286 --> 00:47:23,426 that's what's got his original finish. 839 00:47:23,461 --> 00:47:26,533 - Well, it's got to be madness, innit? 840 00:47:26,567 --> 00:47:28,707 Who is actually gonna want to possess a traffic cone 841 00:47:28,742 --> 00:47:30,364 that might have been touched by him, 842 00:47:30,399 --> 00:47:33,505 it's entirely within the realms of fantasy, 843 00:47:33,540 --> 00:47:36,060 it's just obviously bollocks. 844 00:47:41,582 --> 00:47:43,136 - It could have all washed away, 845 00:47:43,170 --> 00:47:44,585 and I'd just be left with this 846 00:47:44,620 --> 00:47:48,969 as a, as a stand for me fucking fan, and that'd be it. 847 00:47:52,662 --> 00:47:54,837 So I'm at a party at a friend's house one night, 848 00:47:54,872 --> 00:47:56,252 and I've sat down, having a spliff 849 00:47:56,287 --> 00:47:58,427 with this fucking hippie, and I'm telling him 850 00:47:58,461 --> 00:48:01,430 about The Drinker story, and he turned around and, 851 00:48:01,464 --> 00:48:04,122 "Oh, you nicked that fucking Banksy statue, 852 00:48:04,157 --> 00:48:07,677 "I know the guy that made it," ding, what? 853 00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:15,547 - Every piece of art that comes up, 854 00:48:15,582 --> 00:48:18,516 I say, "Yeah, it's Banksy," not realizing 855 00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:20,932 that it might not necessarily be his handiwork, 856 00:48:20,967 --> 00:48:23,141 it might be just his idea. 857 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,419 - Warhol didn't make all his works, 858 00:48:25,454 --> 00:48:27,318 The Factory's chucking them out, 859 00:48:27,352 --> 00:48:29,492 same as Damien Hirst does, he doesn't make 'em, 860 00:48:29,527 --> 00:48:31,080 he gets his fucking minions to do it, 861 00:48:31,115 --> 00:48:33,186 his little fucking elves. 862 00:48:34,739 --> 00:48:36,327 Banksy couldn't make sculptures, 863 00:48:36,361 --> 00:48:39,261 Banksy doesn't make half his fucking stencils. 864 00:48:39,295 --> 00:48:43,299 - The time that he called us was a call for help, 865 00:48:43,334 --> 00:48:47,821 because I think fairly he didn't have a deep knowledge 866 00:48:47,855 --> 00:48:50,237 of maybe working on a large piece like that. 867 00:48:50,272 --> 00:48:53,275 - I don't really know much about sculpture, 868 00:48:53,309 --> 00:48:56,485 so I mistakenly thought that Rodin was just famous 869 00:48:56,519 --> 00:48:59,384 by accident, but as it turns out, 870 00:48:59,419 --> 00:49:01,904 he's actually quite good, so it wasn't as simple as that, 871 00:49:01,939 --> 00:49:05,770 and yeah, it's not as easy as making stencils. 872 00:49:11,224 --> 00:49:15,642 - This idea started fucking festering in me head, 873 00:49:15,676 --> 00:49:17,506 because I'd still got the cone, 874 00:49:17,540 --> 00:49:20,992 still got part of the image of the sculpture, 875 00:49:21,027 --> 00:49:22,718 I started looking into a history of art 876 00:49:22,752 --> 00:49:24,616 that's been broken and destroyed, 877 00:49:24,651 --> 00:49:26,687 and remade and restored. 878 00:49:28,034 --> 00:49:30,381 We're talking, they suddenly found the broken armor 879 00:49:30,415 --> 00:49:32,762 for Michelangelo, you could put the rest to it, 880 00:49:32,797 --> 00:49:36,318 that would then become a restored Michelangelo. 881 00:49:36,352 --> 00:49:39,528 So Damien Hirst's shark was rotting in the gallery, 882 00:49:39,562 --> 00:49:42,772 they skinned it and put it on a plastic model, 883 00:49:42,807 --> 00:49:44,947 and the whole world accepted that as the original, 884 00:49:44,982 --> 00:49:50,056 including Damien Hirst, if I get the statue re-made 885 00:49:50,090 --> 00:49:52,092 by the original fabricators, 886 00:49:52,127 --> 00:49:55,647 it then becomes a restoration piece, 887 00:49:55,682 --> 00:49:58,340 I'm bringing back a lost Banksy. 888 00:50:01,412 --> 00:50:02,654 - By reconstructing statues 889 00:50:02,689 --> 00:50:05,519 that have been stolen is actually a viable thing, 890 00:50:05,554 --> 00:50:07,452 as long as it's to scale, 891 00:50:07,487 --> 00:50:10,593 original maquette would certainly give it more provenance. 892 00:50:10,628 --> 00:50:12,664 - How ya doing, mate? 893 00:50:12,699 --> 00:50:15,495 So I met with these guys, and they seemed pretty genuine. 894 00:50:15,529 --> 00:50:16,737 They showed me all the photographs 895 00:50:16,772 --> 00:50:20,362 of the work that they'd done on the original. 896 00:50:21,501 --> 00:50:24,124 Twin brothers, both called Sam. 897 00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:26,920 I mean, what mother has twins and calls them Sam, 898 00:50:26,954 --> 00:50:29,440 Sam and Samuel, it's like, oh, wow. 899 00:50:29,474 --> 00:50:32,788 - The way we work is to help other artists, 900 00:50:32,822 --> 00:50:35,860 whether you are big or not, to achieve 901 00:50:35,894 --> 00:50:37,620 whatever idea you want to achieve. 902 00:50:42,832 --> 00:50:46,146 - Andy contacted the original sculptor, 903 00:50:46,181 --> 00:50:49,460 who I understand has an original maquette of the work, 904 00:50:49,494 --> 00:50:51,669 which is a small version of the sculpture, 905 00:50:51,703 --> 00:50:54,189 and he's asked them to recreate it, 906 00:50:54,223 --> 00:50:57,985 and then I assume he's gonna want to sell it. 907 00:50:59,504 --> 00:51:00,988 - He said if I wanted another one, 908 00:51:01,023 --> 00:51:04,509 he could make it exact for about 20 grand, 909 00:51:06,477 --> 00:51:07,961 and then when I went back to him next time, 910 00:51:07,995 --> 00:51:11,171 it had suddenly gone up from 20 to 40, 911 00:51:12,621 --> 00:51:15,969 I'm still thinking, "Okay, if it's 30, 40 grand in it, 912 00:51:16,003 --> 00:51:19,869 it's getting a bit much, but I'm on this road now 913 00:51:19,904 --> 00:51:21,871 and I'm committed to it." 914 00:51:23,149 --> 00:51:26,497 Beg, steal, borrowed, pestered, hounded. 915 00:51:29,638 --> 00:51:31,226 It took me about five years, yeah, 916 00:51:31,260 --> 00:51:34,608 when I got the money I felt pretty goddamn good, 917 00:51:34,643 --> 00:51:37,577 like, yeah, now we can fucking go for it. 918 00:51:37,611 --> 00:51:40,649 Once I say I'm gonna do something, then I fucking do it, 919 00:51:40,683 --> 00:51:45,136 no matter what consequences come of it, I'll do it, 920 00:51:45,171 --> 00:51:47,449 and it's a major piece by Banksy, 921 00:51:47,483 --> 00:51:49,692 it was his first major statue, 922 00:51:49,727 --> 00:51:53,351 I am restoring a lost work of art, 923 00:51:53,386 --> 00:51:55,526 and without me, this piece will not, 924 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,252 it'll never be seen again. 925 00:52:51,892 --> 00:52:56,103 It's the phoenix from the flames, it's gonna rise again, 926 00:52:57,484 --> 00:53:00,591 and I'm gonna rub it right in his fucking face. 927 00:53:19,023 --> 00:53:22,923 - Andy's idea of recreating The Drinker, 928 00:53:22,958 --> 00:53:25,098 I felt was a brilliant idea, 929 00:53:25,132 --> 00:53:28,308 because it gave Andy another run. 930 00:53:39,181 --> 00:53:41,770 - Welcome home. 931 00:53:41,804 --> 00:53:43,910 I wouldn't say I were lumbered with a giant statue, 932 00:53:43,944 --> 00:53:47,431 I'd just say I'd got one unusually large garden gnome. 933 00:53:47,465 --> 00:53:52,056 It's in a very secure place. 934 00:53:52,090 --> 00:53:56,992 It's hidden in the extensive arcade and warehouse complex. 935 00:53:58,235 --> 00:54:00,927 Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly, yes. 936 00:54:02,963 --> 00:54:04,620 All right, here we go then, fella. 937 00:54:04,655 --> 00:54:08,831 Yeah, well, I didn't come to play at the sale of it, 938 00:54:08,866 --> 00:54:10,316 I'd love it to sell at Christie's 939 00:54:10,350 --> 00:54:13,284 and make a million fucking quid, of course I would. 940 00:54:13,319 --> 00:54:17,323 - You can re-edit works by an artist in the art world, 941 00:54:17,357 --> 00:54:21,050 but you generally have to use the original molds 942 00:54:21,085 --> 00:54:25,262 or get the artist's consent, and here you have neither. 943 00:54:26,435 --> 00:54:29,127 It's a sort of mongrel, it's not a purebred. 944 00:54:29,162 --> 00:54:32,821 You have mark one cone with mark two Drinker, 945 00:54:32,855 --> 00:54:34,788 and this is going to affect value. 946 00:54:34,823 --> 00:54:37,412 If you were able to get a certificate from them, 947 00:54:37,446 --> 00:54:39,724 from Banksy to say, "You know what, 948 00:54:39,759 --> 00:54:42,071 yeah, I endorse this thing, and it was made 949 00:54:42,106 --> 00:54:43,763 by the original artist, who I commissioned 950 00:54:43,797 --> 00:54:46,835 to make this sculpture, and I will allow this 951 00:54:46,869 --> 00:54:50,804 to be a Banksy," rubber stamp, a million quid. 952 00:54:51,667 --> 00:54:53,151 Without that piece of paper, 953 00:54:53,186 --> 00:54:55,809 and without that endorsement, it's a difficult sell. 954 00:54:55,844 --> 00:55:00,573 It would be very helpful to have Banksy come onboard 955 00:55:00,607 --> 00:55:03,023 and make some sort of comment, 956 00:55:03,058 --> 00:55:05,474 but Banksy isn't gonna comment on it, 957 00:55:05,509 --> 00:55:08,443 but being Andy, he's not gonna give up, 958 00:55:08,477 --> 00:55:11,066 and because he's a pest. 959 00:55:15,726 --> 00:55:18,694 - Pest Control is a handling service acting 960 00:55:18,729 --> 00:55:22,974 on behalf of the artist, Banksy, we answer inquiries 961 00:55:23,009 --> 00:55:25,632 and determine whether he was responsible 962 00:55:25,667 --> 00:55:28,186 for making a certain piece of artwork, 963 00:55:28,221 --> 00:55:31,604 and issue paperwork if this is the case. 964 00:55:36,436 --> 00:55:38,990 - The Banksy machine has become more important 965 00:55:39,025 --> 00:55:42,649 than Banksy himself, the press have picked up this sort 966 00:55:42,684 --> 00:55:44,755 of Robin Hood character that he is, 967 00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:46,757 the myth that he's putting his street work out there 968 00:55:46,791 --> 00:55:49,138 for the people, completely overlooking the fact 969 00:55:49,173 --> 00:55:52,418 that there's a big money-making machine behind this. 970 00:55:52,452 --> 00:55:55,386 Basically, the artist uses the street works 971 00:55:55,421 --> 00:55:58,527 as the to his canvases and prints, 972 00:55:58,562 --> 00:56:01,565 and obviously, for his own benefit as much anything else, 973 00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:05,120 can't authenticate it, it'd be like signing a confession. 974 00:56:05,154 --> 00:56:07,260 - Pest Control is our sole point 975 00:56:07,294 --> 00:56:10,436 of sale for new work by Banksy. 976 00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:11,954 - None of the established auction houses 977 00:56:11,989 --> 00:56:15,648 in the UK or the US will accept any Banksy artwork 978 00:56:15,682 --> 00:56:17,477 without Pest Control provenance. 979 00:56:17,512 --> 00:56:19,099 - Oh, I'm gonna go on as Andy Link, 980 00:56:19,134 --> 00:56:21,136 organization, Art Qaeda. 981 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,416 - It's a horribly lengthy process, 982 00:56:25,451 --> 00:56:28,246 you'd have to prove as much as you physically could, 983 00:56:28,281 --> 00:56:31,111 you have as much documentary evidence of this. 984 00:56:31,146 --> 00:56:33,355 - I fucking hate paperwork. 985 00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:36,013 - You've got a photograph in situ of the piece, 986 00:56:36,047 --> 00:56:37,704 to get as many letters of provenance 987 00:56:37,739 --> 00:56:41,915 or anything of history surrounding the piece itself. 988 00:56:43,676 --> 00:56:45,885 - It's a litany of little details 989 00:56:45,919 --> 00:56:47,611 that build the bigger picture. 990 00:56:47,645 --> 00:56:48,922 - When did I, when did I nick it, 991 00:56:48,957 --> 00:56:52,029 1st of April, right, dimensions, 992 00:56:52,063 --> 00:56:54,549 how big is the fucking statue? 993 00:56:56,033 --> 00:56:58,587 It's clever, you see, what's the purchase price of that, 994 00:56:58,622 --> 00:57:03,178 if you don't fill that in, you can't send it off. 995 00:57:03,212 --> 00:57:07,389 These are the things, the fucking work these, these. 996 00:57:08,666 --> 00:57:10,841 - They exist only in the ether, 997 00:57:10,875 --> 00:57:14,154 there is no tangible address Andy could truck up there 998 00:57:14,189 --> 00:57:15,570 with his sculpture. 999 00:57:15,604 --> 00:57:17,295 - Fucking. 1000 00:57:17,330 --> 00:57:19,159 - So good luck to him. 1001 00:57:20,540 --> 00:57:21,955 - Please be aware 1002 00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:24,855 that because many Banksy pieces are created 1003 00:57:24,889 --> 00:57:27,547 in an advanced state of intoxication, 1004 00:57:27,582 --> 00:57:31,793 the authentication process can be lengthy and challenging. 1005 00:57:33,691 --> 00:57:35,313 - If Banksy won't give you provenance, 1006 00:57:35,348 --> 00:57:36,625 I can't sell it. 1007 00:57:38,972 --> 00:57:42,217 My provenance is in the front cover of the fucking Guardian, 1008 00:57:42,251 --> 00:57:44,564 it's all down in black and white, 1009 00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:46,221 how could he say it is, one minute, 1010 00:57:46,255 --> 00:57:48,913 and then say it isn't, the next? 1011 00:57:54,747 --> 00:57:55,955 - If you ignore him, he'll go away, 1012 00:57:55,989 --> 00:57:57,163 but like Link, he won't, will he, 1013 00:57:57,197 --> 00:57:58,958 that's the thing, he's just relentless. 1014 00:58:04,101 --> 00:58:05,482 - I'm currently unavailable, 1015 00:58:05,516 --> 00:58:06,862 please leave your message 1016 00:58:06,897 --> 00:58:09,624 and I'll get back to you, thanks, bye. 1017 00:58:09,658 --> 00:58:12,040 - Please leave your message after the tone. 1018 00:58:12,074 --> 00:58:14,732 To re-record your message, key hash anytime. 1019 00:58:16,009 --> 00:58:19,772 - Hi, Laz, come on, don't be full of shit. 1020 00:58:19,806 --> 00:58:22,326 You know, you don't blank me fucking calls, 1021 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,224 what's wrong, don't you want to talk to me? 1022 00:58:24,259 --> 00:58:28,332 I can't understand that, I'm very polite, 1023 00:58:28,366 --> 00:58:31,818 very pleasant with you, and you know, 1024 00:58:31,853 --> 00:58:34,372 I've rung you on a decent fucking chat, 1025 00:58:34,407 --> 00:58:36,996 for a chat, this is bollocks, 1026 00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:39,826 and it's fucking rude, as well. 1027 00:58:39,861 --> 00:58:42,139 - I don't know if AK-47's deal with Pest Control, 1028 00:58:42,173 --> 00:58:44,210 but you can imagine, that's like a match made in heaven, 1029 00:58:44,244 --> 00:58:48,525 'cause they'll just piss each other off to kingdom come. 1030 00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:52,701 - Now this is as rare as fucking rocking horse shit. 1031 00:58:53,737 --> 00:58:54,910 Hello? 1032 00:58:54,945 --> 00:58:56,118 - Hello, hello, did you ring? 1033 00:58:56,153 --> 00:58:58,051 - Yeah, hello, oh, is that Holly? 1034 00:58:58,086 --> 00:58:58,983 - Yeah. 1035 00:58:59,018 --> 00:59:01,261 - Hi, this is Andy Link here. 1036 00:59:03,781 --> 00:59:04,713 - Is who, sorry? 1037 00:59:04,748 --> 00:59:05,749 - Andy Link? 1038 00:59:08,372 --> 00:59:09,200 AK-47. 1039 00:59:10,408 --> 00:59:11,927 - Oh, okay. 1040 00:59:11,962 --> 00:59:15,034 - Um, just wondered if we could get some sort 1041 00:59:15,068 --> 00:59:19,279 of chat about this, about The Drinker and everything, 1042 00:59:20,591 --> 00:59:22,041 and discussions about it, you know, 1043 00:59:22,075 --> 00:59:24,077 it's been, this has been going on for too long, 1044 00:59:24,112 --> 00:59:26,701 and it's too, he, it's, it's, it's not nasty, 1045 00:59:26,735 --> 00:59:29,324 he's never been nasty, but it's seeming now like it's, 1046 00:59:29,358 --> 00:59:31,360 you're spiraling sillily out of control, 1047 00:59:31,395 --> 00:59:35,848 and this can all be done in a really nice way for everybody, 1048 00:59:35,882 --> 00:59:39,783 so what do you think, what do you think, Holly? 1049 00:59:46,444 --> 00:59:48,964 - Pest Control will not authenticate 1050 00:59:48,999 --> 00:59:53,762 street works, do not steal them, they are worthless. 1051 00:59:53,797 --> 00:59:56,420 - But I've got more chances of knitting fog 1052 00:59:56,454 --> 00:59:58,111 than getting provenance for that. 1053 00:59:58,146 --> 01:00:00,597 - So you're gonna have to, to market this, 1054 01:00:00,631 --> 01:00:03,841 it's gonna have to be a slightly more surprising surprise, 1055 01:00:03,876 --> 01:00:06,430 a maverick kind of enterprise. 1056 01:00:06,464 --> 01:00:10,158 - You've got to put value on it through telling the story. 1057 01:00:17,579 --> 01:00:22,204 - We're , it's Banksy's Dismal, 1058 01:00:22,239 --> 01:00:24,413 what is it, Dismaland, we've got The Drinker 1059 01:00:24,448 --> 01:00:26,174 on the back lot, there he is, he's sat there 1060 01:00:26,208 --> 01:00:29,073 and having a nice journey, I want to show 1061 01:00:29,108 --> 01:00:32,594 so people can see that The Drinker is real. 1062 01:00:32,629 --> 01:00:35,148 The , they won't give us any fucking joy, 1063 01:00:35,183 --> 01:00:37,979 so if they won't answer us, if they mountain won't go 1064 01:00:38,013 --> 01:00:39,877 to Mohammad, well, we'll take Mohammad 1065 01:00:39,912 --> 01:00:43,467 to wherever he wants to fucking go. 1066 01:00:43,501 --> 01:00:47,644 Love me or hate me, you will never, ever ignore me. 1067 01:00:49,611 --> 01:00:51,199 I had people all around the world 1068 01:00:51,233 --> 01:00:52,856 and all around this country all going out 1069 01:00:52,890 --> 01:00:54,478 with traffic cones and just putting them 1070 01:00:54,512 --> 01:00:57,584 on statues, as with my logo on it. 1071 01:00:57,619 --> 01:01:00,380 We got people in Tehran, Australia, 1072 01:01:00,415 --> 01:01:03,590 Columbia, fucking strange places like 1073 01:01:03,625 --> 01:01:05,282 and God knows where. 1074 01:01:06,973 --> 01:01:10,425 He has risen, resurrection of The Drinker. 1075 01:01:10,459 --> 01:01:14,084 Ready or not, there we are, look at the queue. 1076 01:01:14,118 --> 01:01:17,156 It was about getting there, making your point, 1077 01:01:17,190 --> 01:01:20,366 let 'em know you'd beat, let 'em know you'd beat. 1078 01:01:25,785 --> 01:01:29,893 It's a beautiful restoration, you can't tell the difference. 1079 01:01:29,927 --> 01:01:31,653 We unveiled that in the street 1080 01:01:31,688 --> 01:01:34,587 and say, "It's The Drinker, it's back," 1081 01:01:34,621 --> 01:01:37,107 his fans will love it. 1082 01:01:37,141 --> 01:01:38,971 - It's a Banksy! 1083 01:01:46,323 --> 01:01:48,359 - It's around in the truck, yeah. 1084 01:01:50,396 --> 01:01:52,570 All this, and all this running around, 1085 01:01:52,605 --> 01:01:55,297 and now the moment is now. 1086 01:02:03,961 --> 01:02:05,480 The moment's gone. 1087 01:02:06,861 --> 01:02:08,034 Where are you? 1088 01:02:10,727 --> 01:02:11,900 And they just drove off and went 1089 01:02:11,935 --> 01:02:14,765 to a fucking cafe and got some dinner. 1090 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,698 Well, I'm about, fucking, the whole point 1091 01:02:16,733 --> 01:02:18,700 of this fucking thing is to bring the truck, 1092 01:02:18,735 --> 01:02:20,322 and drive the truck up and down, 1093 01:02:20,357 --> 01:02:21,910 what's it doing parked around the corner 1094 01:02:21,945 --> 01:02:23,947 where no one can see it? 1095 01:02:25,465 --> 01:02:27,364 Well, what the fucking point of coming down here 1096 01:02:27,398 --> 01:02:30,229 if you don't want to fucking drive it round? 1097 01:02:30,263 --> 01:02:34,060 We spent six hours in a bastard van, for what? 1098 01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:41,619 If everyone won't do it, I'll just do it me fucking self, 1099 01:02:41,654 --> 01:02:44,036 it's only me who gets things fucking done, 1100 01:02:44,070 --> 01:02:48,281 leave any control with anybody and it just fucks up. 1101 01:02:52,113 --> 01:02:56,220 Yeah, I'm not fucking happy, I'm fucking furious. 1102 01:02:58,015 --> 01:03:01,985 - He's definitely got a bug up his ass. 1103 01:03:02,019 --> 01:03:04,366 I mean, I would rather do other things with my time, 1104 01:03:04,401 --> 01:03:05,643 it's like a big, wide world, 1105 01:03:05,678 --> 01:03:08,163 where you can do an awful lot of stuff. 1106 01:03:10,890 --> 01:03:14,342 The insult that AK-47 feels is not felt 1107 01:03:14,376 --> 01:03:16,206 on the other side, so somebody's going, 1108 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,586 "What's, what's all this about?" 1109 01:03:28,701 --> 01:03:30,254 - Andy's not gonna draw him out, 1110 01:03:30,289 --> 01:03:32,774 even Andy, with a good dose of Andy, 1111 01:03:32,809 --> 01:03:35,190 is not gonna draw out Banksy. 1112 01:03:38,711 --> 01:03:41,541 - I don't want this to come across in a negative way, 1113 01:03:41,576 --> 01:03:45,718 you know, but I don't think nobody cares, nobody cares. 1114 01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:50,999 - You've got to give this up, mate, 1115 01:03:51,034 --> 01:03:54,037 this endless obsession with this work of art, 1116 01:03:54,071 --> 01:03:57,005 'cause it means fuck all to nobody. 1117 01:04:03,632 --> 01:04:06,118 - That was the only part of the plan left, then, 1118 01:04:06,152 --> 01:04:09,776 that was the last bastion of hope. 1119 01:04:48,194 --> 01:04:50,576 It's been a very emotional journey, 1120 01:04:50,610 --> 01:04:53,890 it's been an 11 year project, but you've got 1121 01:04:53,924 --> 01:04:55,892 to know when to get out. 1122 01:04:58,377 --> 01:05:00,966 It's time to, you know, move on. 1123 01:05:09,250 --> 01:05:10,665 - Well, suddenly he's just over it, 1124 01:05:10,699 --> 01:05:11,977 and he sees the light. 1125 01:05:19,087 --> 01:05:22,297 - Andy never thinks like any other person, 1126 01:05:22,332 --> 01:05:26,232 he's really willing to put himself out there. 1127 01:05:26,267 --> 01:05:27,578 - Well, this morning, chaps, I'm going 1128 01:05:27,613 --> 01:05:30,547 to show you the next level, 1129 01:05:30,581 --> 01:05:34,171 this is the end game, we have to get this fucking right. 1130 01:05:34,206 --> 01:05:36,346 An artist thinks outside the box, 1131 01:05:36,380 --> 01:05:39,625 I threw the box away, I didn't even know the box were there. 1132 01:05:39,659 --> 01:05:44,285 On the day you will get messages via our secret system, 1133 01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:46,494 all it will you tell you is time and place, 1134 01:05:46,528 --> 01:05:48,841 it will give you coordinates and times. 1135 01:05:48,875 --> 01:05:53,156 What is the one thing Banksy would not expect me to do? 1136 01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:56,262 We will load it onto the back of a flatbed truck, 1137 01:05:56,297 --> 01:05:57,919 which, Matthew, you will be in charge of, 1138 01:05:57,954 --> 01:06:01,681 Mr. Ratatata, your job is to get it on and bolt it, 1139 01:06:01,716 --> 01:06:04,339 we will take a route to exactly where we stole it, 1140 01:06:04,374 --> 01:06:07,411 acquired it from, acquired it, right. 1141 01:06:08,723 --> 01:06:12,451 We're going to return it to its original spot. 1142 01:06:12,485 --> 01:06:15,212 Right, come on, come on with that fucking ladder, 1143 01:06:15,247 --> 01:06:17,594 useless maggot, look at me, come on. 1144 01:06:17,628 --> 01:06:19,251 - All right, five seconds up. 1145 01:06:19,285 --> 01:06:21,322 - We have to make it look like it were a slick move 1146 01:06:21,356 --> 01:06:23,186 and we have to be all a flow. 1147 01:06:23,220 --> 01:06:25,222 Come on, come on, come on, let's fast, 1148 01:06:25,257 --> 01:06:27,052 move, move, move, move, move, come on, 1149 01:06:27,086 --> 01:06:30,469 eleven seconds rounding, nice one, position. 1150 01:06:30,503 --> 01:06:33,023 Get it in, get it up, and get the fuck out. 1151 01:06:33,058 --> 01:06:36,544 Up, up, and then 20 seconds out, I see. 1152 01:06:36,578 --> 01:06:38,960 I've got, I've got the cone, you find the hole. 1153 01:06:38,995 --> 01:06:40,582 - That was 40 seconds, we need 1154 01:06:40,617 --> 01:06:43,792 to shave another 10 seconds off it, start again. 1155 01:06:43,827 --> 01:06:47,037 - This is my only chance, I've got to make this work. 1156 01:06:47,072 --> 01:06:49,384 Now, due to the political climate, 1157 01:06:49,419 --> 01:06:52,732 it's going to make it hotter than fucking hell. 1158 01:06:52,767 --> 01:06:55,321 - Why don't we go dressed as Santa Claus 1159 01:06:55,356 --> 01:06:59,291 and his little helpers, tinsel doesn't attract terrorists. 1160 01:07:10,681 --> 01:07:14,858 - A one, two, three, lift, lift, come on. 1161 01:07:14,892 --> 01:07:17,999 - Fucking hell, must I do it on me own? 1162 01:07:18,034 --> 01:07:20,105 - Don't wreck the corner. 1163 01:07:23,694 --> 01:07:26,594 - I was the get-there driver. 1164 01:07:26,628 --> 01:07:28,354 Easy, tiger. 1165 01:07:28,389 --> 01:07:32,876 We practiced putting the thing on and off the lorry once, 1166 01:07:32,910 --> 01:07:33,911 and now two. 1167 01:07:35,913 --> 01:07:37,467 - Fucking. 1168 01:07:37,501 --> 01:07:38,744 - We don't bother tying it down, 1169 01:07:38,778 --> 01:07:39,986 'cause that'll do. 1170 01:07:42,127 --> 01:07:43,990 And then hey-ho, off we go. 1171 01:07:55,795 --> 01:07:58,660 The artist AK was, how can I put this, 1172 01:07:58,695 --> 01:08:00,662 stressed to the max. 1173 01:08:00,697 --> 01:08:02,181 - I want to try not to get stressed 1174 01:08:02,216 --> 01:08:04,390 and shout at you both, but I'm just down to the wire, 1175 01:08:04,425 --> 01:08:07,738 well, it is for me, , Matthew. 1176 01:08:07,773 --> 01:08:09,361 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1177 01:08:10,534 --> 01:08:12,467 - Please don't snarl back at me, just-- 1178 01:08:12,502 --> 01:08:13,296 - Fuck off. 1179 01:08:13,330 --> 01:08:14,124 - Yeah, you know. 1180 01:08:15,781 --> 01:08:17,783 Yeah, no, 'cause you know, you know what I'm like, 1181 01:08:17,817 --> 01:08:19,025 Matt, you know I get stressed and stuff, so. 1182 01:08:19,060 --> 01:08:20,475 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1183 01:08:20,510 --> 01:08:22,408 - We know you've thrown a dolly at a pram, mate. 1184 01:08:22,443 --> 01:08:24,790 - I just get, the pressure fucking gets to me 1185 01:08:24,824 --> 01:08:26,412 when it's somethin' like this. 1186 01:08:35,387 --> 01:08:37,320 We're gonna take, we're gonna go straight down it, 1187 01:08:37,354 --> 01:08:39,356 we're gonna, Essex road. 1188 01:08:39,391 --> 01:08:41,876 And I was stressed, man, I was very stressed. 1189 01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:43,567 Are you still with it? 1190 01:08:43,602 --> 01:08:45,466 It were all on me, when it came on top, 1191 01:08:45,500 --> 01:08:47,123 I were the fucking front man. 1192 01:08:47,157 --> 01:08:49,332 - Who got me fucking radios? 1193 01:08:49,366 --> 01:08:52,266 - I had to get this right, this was the one thing 1194 01:08:52,300 --> 01:08:54,337 that I had to do right. 1195 01:08:54,371 --> 01:08:58,548 ♪ We're on the march with AK's army ♪ 1196 01:08:59,721 --> 01:09:03,000 ♪ We're off to dump a Banksy on the street ♪ 1197 01:09:03,035 --> 01:09:04,588 ♪ And we'll really shake him up ♪ 1198 01:09:04,623 --> 01:09:08,972 ♪ 'Cause we do not give a fuck 1199 01:09:09,006 --> 01:09:11,837 ♪ 'Cause AK's going to give the world a treat ♪ 1200 01:09:14,909 --> 01:09:19,085 ♪ We're on the march with Banksy's army ♪ 1201 01:09:19,983 --> 01:09:22,261 That is lovely, lots of people. 1202 01:09:22,296 --> 01:09:26,645 There you go, have a look at a Banksy, it's a Banksy! 1203 01:09:34,998 --> 01:09:37,966 Oh, fucking hell, fucking hell, Matt. 1204 01:09:38,001 --> 01:09:41,107 We pulled up beside a road, knocked a big fucking sign over, 1205 01:09:41,142 --> 01:09:43,524 with Art Qaeda, nothing is a simple journey. 1206 01:09:51,601 --> 01:09:55,950 - The back of the gallery faces Shaftesbury Avenue. 1207 01:09:55,984 --> 01:09:58,366 - We are now proceeding to base camp, 1208 01:09:58,401 --> 01:10:02,301 it's a go, go, go, go, go, we're on his way. 1209 01:10:04,269 --> 01:10:07,237 - We're on his way, we're on our way. 1210 01:10:07,272 --> 01:10:09,239 - We noticed a truck coming down the road 1211 01:10:09,274 --> 01:10:11,517 with a statue on it that looked familiar. 1212 01:10:11,552 --> 01:10:13,416 - We're here, we need that car moving now, 1213 01:10:13,450 --> 01:10:14,624 move that car! 1214 01:10:16,073 --> 01:10:19,215 - We watched these workers dressed as Santa elves, 1215 01:10:19,249 --> 01:10:20,354 they all worked very quickly, 1216 01:10:20,388 --> 01:10:22,459 with military precision, actually. 1217 01:10:22,494 --> 01:10:24,841 - Jump out, jump out, jump out, will you. 1218 01:10:40,339 --> 01:10:42,099 - We've got it, 1219 01:10:43,756 --> 01:10:44,999 up and over. 1220 01:11:00,704 --> 01:11:02,672 - Me 'motions were all over the place, 1221 01:11:02,706 --> 01:11:04,398 is this the end, is this the beginning, 1222 01:11:04,432 --> 01:11:06,020 what is it, I didn't know. 1223 01:11:06,054 --> 01:11:07,090 - Oh, but we've got to get it straight, 1224 01:11:07,124 --> 01:11:08,850 okay, let's get him straight. 1225 01:11:18,101 --> 01:11:20,414 - I told you to fuck away. 1226 01:11:20,448 --> 01:11:21,242 Up. 1227 01:11:21,277 --> 01:11:22,381 - Okay. 1228 01:11:22,416 --> 01:11:25,522 - Up, up, come on, come on, up. 1229 01:11:42,539 --> 01:11:45,093 - Okay, get off the back there. 1230 01:12:03,767 --> 01:12:05,528 - As soon as I put the statue there, 1231 01:12:05,562 --> 01:12:10,705 it was like, , yes, thank fuck. 1232 01:12:10,740 --> 01:12:12,535 Nobody's ever stolen a Banksy, 1233 01:12:12,569 --> 01:12:16,642 then given it back. 1234 01:12:16,677 --> 01:12:18,748 - You took it, it got nicked, you made it again, 1235 01:12:18,782 --> 01:12:21,613 you took it back, yeah, it's kind of cool, 1236 01:12:21,647 --> 01:12:24,409 and then the statue's where it was in the first place. 1237 01:12:24,443 --> 01:12:26,100 - There's more. 1238 01:12:26,134 --> 01:12:27,273 - There's always more. 1239 01:12:27,308 --> 01:12:29,793 - This is the Banksy, The Drinker, 1240 01:12:30,794 --> 01:12:33,141 now this is AK-47's version. 1241 01:12:34,315 --> 01:12:35,799 What I thought I'd do is, I thought, 1242 01:12:35,834 --> 01:12:39,251 I'd give it back, but give it back with a twist. 1243 01:12:39,285 --> 01:12:40,977 - Up, up. 1244 01:12:41,011 --> 01:12:41,805 - Up. 1245 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,359 - Up. 1246 01:12:43,393 --> 01:12:46,016 - From The Thinker to The Drinker to The Stinker. 1247 01:12:56,820 --> 01:13:00,928 - From The Thinker to The Drinker to The Stinker, 1248 01:13:00,962 --> 01:13:04,449 I despair. 1249 01:13:08,591 --> 01:13:12,767 - What do I think of AK-47's sticking a toilet seat 1250 01:13:14,217 --> 01:13:18,290 to The Thinker, I mean, yes, his ethos is taking the piss, 1251 01:13:18,324 --> 01:13:22,398 but I think you're really taking the piss. 1252 01:13:36,273 --> 01:13:39,829 - I was very emotional, I could have cried. 1253 01:13:39,863 --> 01:13:43,522 It's not about Banksy, now it's about my work and me, 1254 01:13:43,557 --> 01:13:44,765 and what I've done. 1255 01:13:44,799 --> 01:13:46,732 Merry Christmas. 1256 01:14:01,609 --> 01:14:05,820 Come on, now, let's get out of here, see you later! 1257 01:14:15,347 --> 01:14:17,625 - He wanted to make a statement 1258 01:14:17,660 --> 01:14:21,836 that was large enough and had physical impact, and he did. 1259 01:14:29,361 --> 01:14:31,984 - The Stinker has value to the thousands 1260 01:14:32,019 --> 01:14:35,194 of people who see it every day, 1261 01:14:35,229 --> 01:14:38,128 and they have no idea of the story behind it. 1262 01:14:44,514 --> 01:14:48,380 - Andy's a great entertainer, and he's an original. 1263 01:14:48,414 --> 01:14:51,141 Perhaps one day, you know, Banksy will get over his sense 1264 01:14:51,176 --> 01:14:54,144 of humor failure and, and maybe applaud him. 1265 01:15:08,573 --> 01:15:11,230 - We noticed that someone had taken an ax, 1266 01:15:11,265 --> 01:15:15,096 put it over the handle of the cistern. 1267 01:15:15,131 --> 01:15:16,995 We've heard some rumors on the street 1268 01:15:17,029 --> 01:15:21,275 that the ax might have been burying of the hatchet. 1269 01:15:21,309 --> 01:15:22,725 - Well, that's a lovely thought to think 1270 01:15:22,759 --> 01:15:26,660 that the hatchet were buried, the war is over, 1271 01:15:26,694 --> 01:15:31,596 I'm calling a truce, fait accompli. 101354

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