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- Hello, hello, where
are you at the moment?
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You're gonna love this,
you're gonna be on the news
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and everything, it's all legal,
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there's nothing illegal
about it whatsoever,
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mate, if, if, if, I promise ya,
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I promise ya now, it's, it's,
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middle of north-central
London now,
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I'm at this moment sat
on a flat back truck.
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All right, we're gonna
actually, we're gonna go
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and we're gonna acquire
one of Banksy's works
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and we're gonna
hold it to ransom.
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The plan was to get
it out of there,
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under any
whatsoever, we had no time
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to mess around with
it, we had to get in
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and get it out, and at the time,
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it was when there was a
lot of terrorist threats,
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it was just after 9/11,
it could have been filled
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with fucking Semtex,
Gelignite, who knows.
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- It was planned, like,
very precise, yes.
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Contingency plans?
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I wouldn't run like
fuck if it come on top,
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no, not really.
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- Best time to do it,
when it's rush hour,
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because the police
cameras are busy watching
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for other things, do it at
two o'clock in the morning,
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it looks like you're
nicking a fucking statue,
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do it at two o'clock
in the afternoon,
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it looks like you're
working for a council,
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you're doing a job.
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I'm starting to get nervous now,
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I'm starting to get very
nervous, it's all on, innit?
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It's an art theft, and
I quite like the thought
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of being an international art,
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doing an international
art crime.
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Yeah, now we're
fizzing, a bit of panic,
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a bit of stress, you know.
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I didn't realize then I was
opening a fucking Pandora's box.
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I'm AK-47, leader and
front man of Art Qaeda,
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we're an art terrorist
organization.
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We don't like to go
around killing people,
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we bomb it with art, we
spray paint, we graffiti.
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The reason I'm pissed off
with Banksy is he refused
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to sign my fucking print.
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- Britain's
most wanted artist.
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- What I
love about Banksy is
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that you think about the message he puts out to the public.
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- Stars
like Brad Pitt are said
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to pay hundreds of thousands
of pounds for his pieces.
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- He's opened
people's eyes to graffiti,
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he's like a
contemporary anti-hero.
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- His work
being the target of thieves.
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- On the one hand,
we have Banksy,
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international artist,
and on the other hand,
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we have Andy, AK-47,
Art Qaeda, on the other.
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And now, I like Andy,
but he's not Banksy.
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- Do it, do the fucking thing,
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you can get away with it,
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put a bomb under a work of art.
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I live in a dream
world, don't I?
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I'm an artist, I live in
my, I live in AK-47 world.
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My art is not to
be bought or sold,
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I don't do it for
the money, I do it
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because I just do it to
cause fucking mayhem.
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I want to be the thorn
in the side of society,
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I like poking a
stick at the man,
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because if you don't
poke a stick at the man,
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the man fucking beats
you with his stick.
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Arto political
humanism, it's artistic,
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it's political, and
we're taking the piss.
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- AK-47 is a madman.
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- Okay, let's go take
on the art world.
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- He's a man of many
hats, football hooligan,
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porn star, bad boy, you
know, street artist.
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- He's at once
charming and sensitive,
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and also incredibly irritating,
and obdurate, and annoying.
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- I'm an art, ink art terrorist,
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and I'm gonna go where
the fuck I want now.
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- He's a rebel, he
likes to occupy sort
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of whatever the risks or the
edge might be of anything.
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- This is what we fucking
want, this is art.
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- He wants to be an
artist, and he is an artist
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to some extent,
we're all artists,
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he just happens to
be a piss artist.
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- He's one of these people
that will just try anything,
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you know, and I think this
street art thing just came along
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and it just fell into his lap.
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- So I came out of this
club in Shoreditch one night,
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we were looking
down on the floor,
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I see this white line,
but we were laughing,
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'cause we were following
this white line,
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you know, what idiots do that?
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I bet David and the
when they get home
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and there's no paint
left in the can.
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Went all round up
through Shoreditch,
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it's across a couple of
roads, I turned the corner,
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and then I saw it,
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that's brilliant, that is art.
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Then I saw a few more, then
different bits all started
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to blend in, I
just thought, "Wow,
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this is something,
this is the next thing,
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he were doing things I
wish I had the balls to do,
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it's edgy, and it's
illegal, I just loved it,
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that's why I went to
buy my first print."
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- Turf War was Banksy's first
kind of major art exhibition,
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it was a great
thing to be part of,
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it was, it felt like a movement,
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and all the cool
people were there,
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you know, it was like, you know,
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all the DJs were
there, and like,
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the sort of Shoreditch twats.
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- The flying coppers used to
be on the bridge at Shoreditch,
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I'd already bonded with that,
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'cause I saw it on
a regular basis.
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So I went on in so I could
actually buy a print of it,
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I thought, "Oh, I love that."
And there were two versions
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of it, there were the signed
print, which runs in 50 quid.
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- These are the signed
prints, they're 150 quid.
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- And there were
the unsigned print,
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which was 75 pounds.
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- These ones are
unsigned, they're 75 quid.
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- So being the man I
am, I went straight
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for the 75 pound print,
'cause in my opinion,
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I could get Banksy to sign it
for me, and we'd all be good.
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When, after I'd
bought the print,
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I was looking around
to see if he was there,
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and maybe if he was
there, I was gonna ask him
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to sign it for me, but, you
know, can't fucking find him.
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- I don't think Banksy's
anonymity is a gimmick at all,
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I think the guy has always
been very, very private,
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well, then, I don't think
he trusts many people,
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and certainly doesn't
allow many people
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into an inner circle,
but AK-47 is persistent.
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- My friend were his
driver, right, so I says
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to my man, "Will you get Banksy
to sign the print for me?"
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The word from Banksy was, "If
I had wanted a signed print,
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I should have
fucking bought one,
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and stop being such a
jackass knob and prick."
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That fucking incised
me, I was like,
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"You cheeky twat, he thinks I'm
in it for the fucking money."
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And I'm not, he didn't
realize I wanted it
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'cause I loved his fucking work,
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and okay, a bit of ego in
it, nice to see someone
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that signed it to me personally
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by somebody who could
be famous one day.
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- All the best things in
life are free for Andy,
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who knows, but I
think there might be,
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there might be a
monetary angle to this.
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He's a sensitive little soul,
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so if you started questioning
him about it, he's gonna,
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he's gonna put up, you
know, a sterling defense.
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- Flying copper,
signed, sold for 12,500.
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The unsigned pieces are
worth between four and 6,000.
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So Banksy were right,
maybe I should have spent
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the other 75 fucking quid,
but that's not the point.
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- He has an incredibly
competitive personality,
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keen to sort of
just step in there
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and not really think
about the consequences.
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- He drew first blood,
you disrespect me
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and I will follow
you to the ends
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of the earth to get it back.
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Never underestimate your enemy.
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- My favorite quote about
Andy, about himself,
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he went, "I'm like herpes, me,"
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and I just thought, "Yeah,
yeah, actually, you are."
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And once you've had a
dose, it can come up
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at any time without
announcing itself,
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and it's not really something
that you kind of want.
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- If you get to know
Andy, you don't have
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to get to know him
really, really well
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to actually
understand who he is,
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because there's so many
different personalities.
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- I'm always
reinventing myself,
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I've had so many
different characters,
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I'm still reinventing
to this day.
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I started to play football,
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so I became a football
hooligan for quite a few years.
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I got into
pornography, you know,
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just natural,
honest pornography.
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Met these guy called
police captains ,
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within three days I'm in
a guerrilla army camp,
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supplying the Korean National
Liberation Army with guns.
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In Glastonbury, somebody
checked an E down my neck,
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and that completely changed it.
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- Then he was an
acid house organizer,
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so he did a massive party
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in Wakefield under
a motorway bridge.
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- I was the acid house
scene in Wakefield,
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you know what I mean?
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- Largest mass arrest
in British history,
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he was responsible for that.
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- I ended up getting
15 months imprisonment,
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which came as a bastard
shock to me, to be honest.
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And that time, I didn't realize
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that who I am is an artist, I
just thought I were different.
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- Andy undertook the phases
that any student would take,
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starting to identify, what
is it that art means for you?
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- And, you
know, I remember
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when those two Chinese guys went
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and jumped on Tracey Emin's Bed,
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and instead of
them getting nicked
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for criminal damage,
they let 'em off,
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'cause they said
they were Stuckists,
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they were the
Stuckists movement,
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so I realized that if
you say you're an artist,
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you can get away with
anything you fucking,
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it's not criminal
damage, it's art.
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And then I realized,
well, I am an artist.
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I am an artist by lifestyle,
not by profession,
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life is my medium,
I can't paint,
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but I can come up with ideas
I can create in my mind,
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I'm conceptual, the first
time I called myself
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an artist was when I
stole the Banksy piece.
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- As far as Banksy's concerned,
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the first time he spoke
to me about it was an idea
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that was just coming
through his head,
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and it was gonna be like,
an appropriation of space,
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in terror-tight central London,
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where you could cut the
atmosphere with a knife,
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and there's cameras
looking at you from every angle,
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you can actually take
space, and use it,
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and transform it,
and that's precisely
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what his sculpture was gonna do.
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When all of this was happening,
he didn't have any money,
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he wasn't interested in money,
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money never came
into the conversation
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about any of this stuff, "I'm
gonna make this big statue
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and just put it in the
middle of this city,
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and I'm gonna twist
people's brains,
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'cause they're gonna wonder
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how the fuck this
thing got there."
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- The idea of Banksy
bringing this statue
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into the middle of the city,
I find that to be a coup.
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That, you know, two
and a half square miles
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or whatever is probably
the most surveilled spot
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in the whole of England.
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- He said it with
such intent, it sort
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of took my breath away,
he's into this more
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than I could ever even
believe, and I didn't dare
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to say, "Well, how the
fuck are you gonna do that?
240
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Are you gonna get
fucking busted?"
241
00:14:14,198 --> 00:14:16,717
- It seems like the elusive Banksy has struck again,
242
00:14:16,752 --> 00:14:20,204
and this time, he's gone
from stencils to statues.
243
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Called The Drinker, it was
installed overnight here
244
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in central London
without permission.
245
00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,040
- Well, The Drinker
is a representation
246
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of a very classical
piece of sculpture,
247
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which was originally by
Rodin in the 19th century,
248
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and Banksy has, of course,
totally undermined it,
249
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stuffed a traffic
cone on its head,
250
00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:44,159
and undercut a millennia of
all of ancient civilization
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and philosophical inquiry.
252
00:14:46,851 --> 00:14:48,922
- So far there
have been no witnesses,
253
00:14:48,957 --> 00:14:51,062
and it seems that this
time, neither the police,
254
00:14:51,097 --> 00:14:52,788
nor the local
council will be able
255
00:14:52,822 --> 00:14:55,342
to remove it any time soon.
256
00:14:55,377 --> 00:14:57,275
- You've gotta get a
truck, a flatbed truck,
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00:14:57,310 --> 00:14:59,588
and we've got to get a crane,
258
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who is gonna move an extremely
heavy statue on a plinth?
259
00:15:04,317 --> 00:15:06,388
- Suddenly a little
plan started,
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a little bell started ringing
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00:15:07,665 --> 00:15:10,392
in my ear, like,
ding, ding, ding.
262
00:15:12,497 --> 00:15:16,087
It was a large fucking
item out on the street
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without any permission,
so it was dumped,
264
00:15:18,676 --> 00:15:22,611
it was fly-tipping, I
wanted some respect back.
265
00:15:23,957 --> 00:15:26,891
If I take it and
say I'm an artist,
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there was no, no, nothing no
way anybody could stop me going
267
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and getting the fucker.
268
00:15:33,587 --> 00:15:35,520
- Andy was aware of this
thing being on the street,
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00:15:35,555 --> 00:15:38,834
decided to do something about
it, appropriate it in a,
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00:15:38,868 --> 00:15:41,941
you know, in a shameless,
thunder-stealing exercise.
271
00:15:46,738 --> 00:15:50,501
- It's a way for him
to spring into action.
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He's able to galvanize
people to spring
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00:15:52,848 --> 00:15:54,574
into action with him.
274
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- I shout, people fucking
listen, and I'm a man that can,
275
00:16:00,856 --> 00:16:03,548
I've got fingers in many pies,
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I'd already got my
network of connections,
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over fucking 30 years
of being involved
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in every kind of
modern cultures.
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- As far as these operatives
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and who was part of
the organization,
281
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it's people who haven't
got the strength
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to say no to him, really.
283
00:16:22,774 --> 00:16:23,983
- I looked at what I'd gotten,
284
00:16:24,017 --> 00:16:26,951
and I picked the
right man for the job.
285
00:16:33,233 --> 00:16:35,822
- Could you
tell me your name, please?
286
00:16:35,856 --> 00:16:38,583
- To be honest with you mate,
I'd rather not say.
287
00:16:49,974 --> 00:16:52,459
R2IC, mate, second in command,
288
00:16:53,978 --> 00:16:56,981
and also I do
logistics and a bit
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00:16:57,016 --> 00:17:01,123
of a quartermaster, you
know, fix things and that.
290
00:17:02,745 --> 00:17:05,162
- Art is not Robert's forte,
291
00:17:05,196 --> 00:17:10,132
he can ship an AK-47 down in
about a minute and a half,
292
00:17:10,167 --> 00:17:11,789
but when it comes
to knowledge of art,
293
00:17:11,823 --> 00:17:15,103
Robert's not, he's not,
that's not his bag.
294
00:17:15,137 --> 00:17:16,828
- What do
you consider to be art?
295
00:17:16,863 --> 00:17:17,691
- Me?
296
00:17:21,661 --> 00:17:26,217
A normal flipping
painting is art, innit?
297
00:17:26,252 --> 00:17:28,150
You know, you get
a little cottage,
298
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a bit of greenery,
a fucking lake,
299
00:17:31,326 --> 00:17:34,674
ducks and whatever,
that sort of thing,
300
00:17:34,708 --> 00:17:37,987
but circles, squares,
and triangles is,
301
00:17:39,161 --> 00:17:41,094
not interested me, so
Link, he sat me down,
302
00:17:41,129 --> 00:17:44,753
educated me a bit, Tracey
Emins had a tit job,
303
00:17:44,787 --> 00:17:47,100
didn't she, or something,
that's about all I learned,
304
00:17:47,135 --> 00:17:50,138
and Banksy's a no-good cunt.
305
00:17:52,692 --> 00:17:55,384
- The art of taking the
piss is basically a device
306
00:17:55,419 --> 00:17:58,284
that Andy uses to
capture pretty much most
307
00:17:58,318 --> 00:18:01,908
of what he does, and it
also gives him a license
308
00:18:01,942 --> 00:18:03,496
to do what he does.
309
00:18:11,504 --> 00:18:15,197
- So here I am,
morning of the crime.
310
00:18:15,232 --> 00:18:19,063
I didn't get to bed 'til
fucking half past eight
311
00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:22,618
this morning, just sat,
mind going numb, like,
312
00:18:22,653 --> 00:18:25,069
and then had these
mad, mad dreams.
313
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Really crazy dreams
about me stuck in school,
314
00:18:29,349 --> 00:18:32,697
so I have got a fucking
conscience, see,
315
00:18:33,802 --> 00:18:37,944
or maybe I'm just
tits up.
316
00:18:39,325 --> 00:18:42,086
And it's, everything's so
amateurly, it's unbelievable.
317
00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:44,157
I made one phone call
to a friend I knew
318
00:18:44,192 --> 00:18:45,745
that run a scrapyard,
319
00:18:45,779 --> 00:18:48,782
and I told him I wanted
a truck with a gib.
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00:18:48,817 --> 00:18:50,681
I'm employing you
to do this job,
321
00:18:50,715 --> 00:18:54,029
well, if it comes on top,
I will fucking tape the,
322
00:18:54,063 --> 00:18:55,306
go and put that in your
lorry, just in case.
323
00:18:55,341 --> 00:18:56,549
- I'm all right.
324
00:18:56,583 --> 00:18:58,723
- Just cover it,
just for parking.
325
00:18:58,758 --> 00:18:59,897
I then phoned Robert, and went,
326
00:18:59,931 --> 00:19:02,693
"Hey-ho, Robert,
we're off on a caper."
327
00:19:02,727 --> 00:19:05,489
All right, well, we're
just waiting now
328
00:19:05,523 --> 00:19:07,905
for the other
member of the team,
329
00:19:07,939 --> 00:19:12,151
and I think that might well
be our man turning up now,
330
00:19:12,185 --> 00:19:14,670
there he is, agent number two.
331
00:19:16,465 --> 00:19:18,157
Robert's all right in
a lot of respects,
332
00:19:18,191 --> 00:19:21,539
but his timekeeping can
be, what can we say, iffy.
333
00:19:21,574 --> 00:19:23,541
- We've got to
be back by three, though,
334
00:19:23,576 --> 00:19:25,716
gotta collect, or we
lose a step, don't I?
335
00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:27,511
- Oh, we're
gonna have to ,
336
00:19:27,545 --> 00:19:28,374
it's a quarter now.
337
00:19:28,408 --> 00:19:29,202
- What?
338
00:19:29,237 --> 00:19:30,134
- Three.
339
00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:31,515
- A quarter to three?
340
00:19:31,549 --> 00:19:32,964
- Yeah, it's a
quarter to fucking three now.
341
00:19:32,999 --> 00:19:34,138
- Oh,
you're shitting me.
342
00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:35,346
- I'm not,
it's, what have you got
343
00:19:35,381 --> 00:19:36,520
to do with it?
344
00:19:36,554 --> 00:19:37,452
- Just collect
it from.
345
00:19:37,486 --> 00:19:38,694
- And take it where?
346
00:19:38,729 --> 00:19:39,488
- And look
after it 'til four.
347
00:19:39,523 --> 00:19:40,731
- Oh, fuck.
348
00:19:42,974 --> 00:19:46,115
No, cunty fuck, I need somebody,
349
00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:48,083
I can't take you, you're
with a kid, Robert.
350
00:19:48,117 --> 00:19:49,567
- You're kidding me.
351
00:19:49,602 --> 00:19:51,983
- I can't take you
with a fucking kid legally.
352
00:19:52,018 --> 00:19:53,502
- Gypsies have
about 30 in the front.
353
00:19:53,537 --> 00:19:56,505
- Yeah, but that's fucking,
354
00:19:56,540 --> 00:19:59,198
how can you plan
something like this,
355
00:19:59,232 --> 00:20:00,923
and then it all go so mad?
356
00:20:00,958 --> 00:20:02,166
- It's art.
357
00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:04,030
- It's not fucking
art, it's a fuck-up.
358
00:20:04,064 --> 00:20:06,584
- Yeah, I was babysitting,
so I canceled one day,
359
00:20:06,619 --> 00:20:09,346
you know what I mean,
and the next day,
360
00:20:09,380 --> 00:20:11,589
we got on with it.
361
00:20:11,624 --> 00:20:12,452
- All right.
362
00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:22,980
I felt the pressure from
setting up in the fucking lorry.
363
00:20:23,014 --> 00:20:24,809
I'm starting to get nervous now,
364
00:20:24,844 --> 00:20:27,191
I'm starting to
get really nervous.
365
00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:28,917
- It's all on, innit?
366
00:20:28,951 --> 00:20:30,436
Done some funny
things in my life,
367
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:33,646
but I've never nicked
a statue, never.
368
00:20:37,926 --> 00:20:39,824
- It's an art
heist, it's everything,
369
00:20:39,859 --> 00:20:42,171
and it's like, all emotions.
370
00:20:43,414 --> 00:20:44,691
♪ We're drinking his house
371
00:20:44,726 --> 00:20:46,279
♪ We're drinking his house
372
00:20:46,314 --> 00:20:49,558
♪ Watch out, Banksy,
we're drinking his house ♪
373
00:20:49,593 --> 00:20:51,664
♪ Drinking his eyes
374
00:20:51,698 --> 00:20:53,113
- Oh, we're fucking up.
375
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,603
I've done a lot, a lot of
contemplation about this,
376
00:20:59,637 --> 00:21:03,538
a lot of worrying and
all that, a lot of ideas.
377
00:21:04,711 --> 00:21:07,058
This could be the bad
bit of not planning now,
378
00:21:07,093 --> 00:21:10,027
'cause we don't actually
know exactly where it is.
379
00:21:14,825 --> 00:21:15,998
There it is, there
it is, there it is,
380
00:21:16,033 --> 00:21:18,829
yeah, there it is,
there, there it is,
381
00:21:18,863 --> 00:21:20,624
the art, there it is.
382
00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:26,630
There it is, that's the very
first time I've seen it.
383
00:21:26,664 --> 00:21:29,529
Mind blowing, it were like,
"Wow, that's fucking good, that.
384
00:21:29,564 --> 00:21:31,876
Yeah, that's fucking
brilliant, I like that."
385
00:21:31,911 --> 00:21:34,327
The size of it, the
audacity that the bastards
386
00:21:34,362 --> 00:21:39,090
could just plunk
it down anywhere he
wanted, I like the fact
387
00:21:39,125 --> 00:21:42,577
that the council had freshly
washed his name off of it,
388
00:21:42,611 --> 00:21:44,233
they thought it were
a legitimate statue
389
00:21:44,268 --> 00:21:48,203
that had been tagged.
390
00:21:49,894 --> 00:21:51,240
Is it fiberglass?
391
00:21:51,275 --> 00:21:52,414
Wicked.
392
00:21:52,449 --> 00:21:55,555
It's fiberglass,
it's fucking plastic.
393
00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:58,144
Yeah, that's just gonna
lift off in one piece.
394
00:21:58,178 --> 00:22:02,251
Fucking come on, me and
my boys will have this.
395
00:22:02,286 --> 00:22:06,808
- The aim here to get that
piece without getting caught.
396
00:22:06,842 --> 00:22:09,776
They just rolled up
on a flatbed truck,
397
00:22:09,811 --> 00:22:12,745
broad daylight,
high-viz jackets on,
398
00:22:12,779 --> 00:22:14,609
acting as if they
were commissioned
399
00:22:14,643 --> 00:22:19,165
to actually be there, I mean,
that is absolutely priceless,
400
00:22:19,199 --> 00:22:21,754
because sometimes
you have to do things
401
00:22:21,788 --> 00:22:25,620
in everybody's face in
order to get away with it.
402
00:22:25,654 --> 00:22:27,173
- Right, take
your jacket off,
403
00:22:27,207 --> 00:22:29,244
put your gas mask on.
404
00:22:29,278 --> 00:22:31,211
- Why are we wearing gas masks?
405
00:22:31,246 --> 00:22:34,180
Yeah, yeah, that was
obviously AK's idea,
406
00:22:34,214 --> 00:22:37,390
I mean, I only use things
like that when I need to,
407
00:22:37,425 --> 00:22:39,323
I would not use it in the middle
408
00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:41,739
of the afternoon in the city.
409
00:22:41,774 --> 00:22:42,982
- Why not?
410
00:22:43,016 --> 00:22:45,674
- 'Cause it just
looks a bit daft.
411
00:22:47,089 --> 00:22:50,161
- Yeah, Rob, gas
mask, where's your gas mask?
412
00:22:50,196 --> 00:22:51,024
Get it on.
413
00:22:52,819 --> 00:22:55,408
Our biggest fear were
the police coming
414
00:22:55,443 --> 00:22:58,480
and moving the lorry
for illegal parking.
415
00:23:02,208 --> 00:23:05,384
We had no time to
mess around with it,
416
00:23:06,868 --> 00:23:09,698
we have to get in
and get it out.
417
00:23:25,334 --> 00:23:27,371
- 'Cause all we
needed was really,
418
00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:29,546
was an adjustable spanner.
419
00:23:30,961 --> 00:23:32,963
- That's it, mate.
420
00:23:34,965 --> 00:23:36,656
- Rob, we're
gonna have to keep its,
421
00:23:36,691 --> 00:23:37,864
will it dust it up?
422
00:23:37,899 --> 00:23:39,038
- Huh?
423
00:23:39,072 --> 00:23:40,453
- Can we
protect it stood up?
424
00:23:40,488 --> 00:23:41,316
- What, on the lorry?
425
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:42,524
- Yeah.
426
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:46,114
During the heist,
I was stood around,
427
00:23:46,148 --> 00:23:48,703
just filming it, and I'm
pretty good with a camera,
428
00:23:48,737 --> 00:23:51,153
'cause I used to make
porns, so I was quite okay
429
00:23:51,188 --> 00:23:52,431
to do with one
thing with one hand
430
00:23:52,465 --> 00:23:54,812
and having a camera
in the other.
431
00:23:54,847 --> 00:23:58,229
Yeah, Rob, blindfold
him, blindfold him.
432
00:23:59,507 --> 00:24:00,991
- Why
are his eyes closed?
433
00:24:01,025 --> 00:24:03,442
- So he doesn't
know where he's going,
434
00:24:03,476 --> 00:24:05,305
we're kidnapping him.
Hi, how ya doing,
435
00:24:05,340 --> 00:24:06,997
can I ask you to
little interview?
436
00:24:07,031 --> 00:24:08,481
- Yeah.
437
00:24:08,516 --> 00:24:09,620
- Okay, have you
heard of the artist Banksy?
438
00:24:09,655 --> 00:24:10,863
- Uh, no.
439
00:24:10,897 --> 00:24:14,625
- Thanks a lot,
I'm actually robbing it,
440
00:24:14,660 --> 00:24:15,488
I'm stealing it.
441
00:24:15,523 --> 00:24:16,316
- Are you?
442
00:24:16,351 --> 00:24:17,145
- Yeah.
443
00:24:17,179 --> 00:24:17,973
- Okay.
444
00:24:18,008 --> 00:24:19,216
- It's a robbery.
445
00:24:19,250 --> 00:24:20,459
- Where are
you gonna put it?
446
00:24:20,493 --> 00:24:21,977
- Well, that's
beside the point, mate,
447
00:24:22,012 --> 00:24:23,703
he's the last you'll see of
it until the ransom's paid,
448
00:24:23,738 --> 00:24:24,773
we're gonna put
him up to ransom.
449
00:24:24,808 --> 00:24:26,016
- Oh, really?
450
00:24:26,050 --> 00:24:29,398
- Yeah, we're
ransoming Banksy.
451
00:24:29,433 --> 00:24:31,435
What do you think of
it, did you think I'm
452
00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:33,851
an artist or a terrorist
'cause I'm stealing his work?
453
00:24:33,886 --> 00:24:37,786
- I think, I don't know artist
terrorists, I don't know.
454
00:24:37,821 --> 00:24:38,649
- Where are you from?
455
00:24:38,684 --> 00:24:39,892
- Manchester.
456
00:24:39,926 --> 00:24:41,410
- Yeah, well,
you're all about,
457
00:24:41,445 --> 00:24:43,274
you're all about thieving
things from Manchester.
458
00:24:43,309 --> 00:24:45,518
- He does like taking a photo,
459
00:24:45,553 --> 00:24:48,417
one taking photos and me running
around the bleeding thing,
460
00:24:48,452 --> 00:24:50,730
you do get a bit warm,
you know what I mean?
461
00:24:52,732 --> 00:24:56,080
- We've done it,
innit, art robbery,
462
00:24:56,115 --> 00:24:58,773
and we've done it, and
we got it documented.
463
00:24:58,807 --> 00:25:00,982
So I might not have a
fuck E to that,
464
00:25:01,016 --> 00:25:03,812
both of you deserve one,
I think I'll have two.
465
00:25:03,847 --> 00:25:05,055
Do you want a cigar?
466
00:25:05,089 --> 00:25:06,263
- No,
I'm all right, mate,
467
00:25:06,297 --> 00:25:07,851
I'm gonna roll a
spliff in a minute.
468
00:25:22,693 --> 00:25:25,075
- Yeah, it's
not gonna do it, is it?
469
00:25:25,109 --> 00:25:26,283
Will you hold two the camera
there for us, mate?
470
00:25:26,317 --> 00:25:27,940
I'll see if I can help him.
471
00:25:27,974 --> 00:25:29,631
- I'm already open,
472
00:25:29,666 --> 00:25:31,978
it gives me something
to do, don't it?
473
00:25:32,013 --> 00:25:33,221
What's that statue there?
474
00:25:33,255 --> 00:25:35,016
- Banksy's a
famous artist, I think.
475
00:25:35,050 --> 00:25:36,258
- Yeah?
476
00:25:36,293 --> 00:25:37,501
- Yeah,
they all nicked it.
477
00:25:50,376 --> 00:25:52,067
- Can I pick someone and
tell 'em it's raining?
478
00:25:52,102 --> 00:25:55,554
- Yeah,
go for it, go for it.
479
00:25:58,315 --> 00:26:01,145
- We're doing the
fucking.
480
00:26:01,180 --> 00:26:01,974
- Is
that it, is that it?
481
00:26:02,008 --> 00:26:02,940
- Yes!
482
00:26:13,399 --> 00:26:16,229
I am now in possession
of you, Banksy!
483
00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:37,699
Euphoric, euphoric, like I've
nicked the best thing ever.
484
00:26:43,567 --> 00:26:47,709
I was a hero, I've done
what I said I were gonna do.
485
00:27:07,556 --> 00:27:11,664
That's when I suddenly
realized, well, this is it.
486
00:27:12,941 --> 00:27:14,529
I've found my niche.
487
00:27:18,050 --> 00:27:20,708
I've always been a piss-taker,
488
00:27:20,742 --> 00:27:24,608
and it should be accepted
that there's an art in it,
489
00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:27,024
and I'm a fine artist at it.
490
00:27:32,374 --> 00:27:34,687
- Yeah, it felt good,
mate, it felt like,
491
00:27:34,722 --> 00:27:35,964
you know, when you score a goal,
492
00:27:35,999 --> 00:27:37,621
I suppose, and
you're a footballer,
493
00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:39,658
and you get it, all
the
494
00:27:39,692 --> 00:27:42,453
yeah, similar to
that, I suppose.
495
00:27:45,733 --> 00:27:46,906
- Well, the next
part of the plan was
496
00:27:46,941 --> 00:27:49,495
to let him know I've got it,
497
00:27:49,529 --> 00:27:50,807
I wasn't just gonna
ring up and say,
498
00:27:50,841 --> 00:27:53,602
"Oh, listen, I've
nicked your statue."
499
00:27:53,637 --> 00:27:57,917
I'm an art terrorist, let's
fucking poke the nest again.
500
00:28:04,752 --> 00:28:08,894
Champagne to celebrate, I think
we might as well.
501
00:28:15,521 --> 00:28:17,419
I've even got that
to send in a letter,
502
00:28:17,454 --> 00:28:20,353
in an envelope, look,
either pay the ransom
503
00:28:20,388 --> 00:28:24,461
or it gets it.
504
00:28:24,495 --> 00:28:28,672
- With AK-47 nicking it is
just grist to Banksy's mill,
505
00:28:30,122 --> 00:28:32,400
definitely pique his interest,
506
00:28:32,434 --> 00:28:34,851
who is this person who
would just come along
507
00:28:34,885 --> 00:28:36,887
and fucking take it?
508
00:28:36,922 --> 00:28:40,063
- I am AK-47,
leader and front man
509
00:28:40,097 --> 00:28:44,274
of the arto-political
humorist group, Art Qaeda.
510
00:28:44,308 --> 00:28:48,209
We have your statue, you
must meet our demands.
511
00:28:50,418 --> 00:28:52,316
I am AK-47.
512
00:28:54,594 --> 00:28:55,423
Is Banksy.
513
00:28:57,874 --> 00:28:59,047
Hi, I'm AK-47.
514
00:29:01,636 --> 00:29:03,776
To be honest, I would
have to be high on drugs.
515
00:29:03,811 --> 00:29:06,710
Shut up, fucking hell,
this is not going well.
516
00:29:07,918 --> 00:29:10,507
Hi, I'm AK-47,
leader and front man
517
00:29:10,541 --> 00:29:13,855
of the atto-political,
fucking bullocks.
518
00:29:16,271 --> 00:29:21,035
Basic, basically, I've done
it, I've pulled off a scoop.
519
00:29:21,069 --> 00:29:23,106
- Yeah, I was on the
top deck of a 38,
520
00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:24,728
and when Andy calls and
goes, "I've stolen a Banksy,"
521
00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:26,626
I goes, "What,
where, from what?"
522
00:29:26,661 --> 00:29:29,422
"It's a statue," and
he explained the whole thing.
523
00:29:29,457 --> 00:29:31,424
- By me stealing his art,
does that mean make it,
524
00:29:31,459 --> 00:29:33,530
does that mean, make it,
make me a fucking terrorist,
525
00:29:33,564 --> 00:29:35,014
or does that make me an
artist on top of his art?
526
00:29:35,049 --> 00:29:36,740
- Oh,
shut up, will you.
527
00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,190
- Oh, totally out of the blue,
528
00:29:38,224 --> 00:29:39,398
I can remember the phone
call like it was yesterday.
529
00:29:39,432 --> 00:29:42,125
- It's a lad's mag
fucking story, innit?
530
00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:45,956
But it's also art.
531
00:29:45,991 --> 00:29:48,303
- That was it, and I was
part of it, you know,
532
00:29:48,338 --> 00:29:50,443
first recruit into
the, the movement.
533
00:29:54,068 --> 00:29:57,347
- I knew AK-47 on his
own just wouldn't cut it.
534
00:30:01,627 --> 00:30:04,216
And it always sounds better
if there's lots of you,
535
00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:06,977
if you're an organization,
rather than one person.
536
00:30:11,257 --> 00:30:12,741
- I think, think
he wanted to sort
537
00:30:12,776 --> 00:30:15,537
of broaden his horizons and
make it more like a terrorist,
538
00:30:15,572 --> 00:30:18,195
an arto-terrorist organization.
539
00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:20,266
Um, is that the right word?
540
00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:26,272
- What's the AK stand for?
541
00:30:26,307 --> 00:30:30,242
Well, we bounced it around,
we came up with Art Qaeda.
542
00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:03,585
- I don't know "Enabling a
fragile snowflake" would do much
543
00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:06,934
for me, what, what
is it, what is, what,
544
00:31:06,968 --> 00:31:08,659
how would you enable
a fragile snowflake,
545
00:31:08,694 --> 00:31:12,008
that doesn't really
make sense, does it?
546
00:31:27,644 --> 00:31:29,128
This is the Link-y
of it, isn't it?
547
00:31:29,163 --> 00:31:33,063
Not enough shite in there,
it needs some more asses.
548
00:31:45,282 --> 00:31:48,182
Art Qaeda are the
come Unstuckists.
549
00:31:53,152 --> 00:31:54,602
I think he'd like
that idea that,
550
00:31:54,636 --> 00:31:56,431
like, you know, people around
the world get this idea
551
00:31:56,466 --> 00:32:00,194
of stealing art and taking
the piss could be a movement,
552
00:32:00,228 --> 00:32:02,368
he actually does want
to bomb Glastonbury,
553
00:32:02,403 --> 00:32:04,957
and sort of kill everybody
who owns an Apple Mac,
554
00:32:04,992 --> 00:32:06,786
but it's just in his head.
555
00:32:06,821 --> 00:32:07,960
- It suddenly grew,
and it did grow
556
00:32:07,995 --> 00:32:10,169
into an army within weeks,
557
00:32:10,204 --> 00:32:14,208
people wanted to have a,
see what we were up to next.
558
00:32:14,242 --> 00:32:17,245
Art Qaeda!
559
00:32:21,525 --> 00:32:24,114
I kidnapped Tracey
Emin off of the wall
560
00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:28,636
of the Hackney Empire, she
wasn't fucking happy at all,
561
00:32:28,670 --> 00:32:33,123
especially when we sent it
back and it didn't work.
562
00:32:33,158 --> 00:32:35,401
Bildrum would unveil
his new work of art,
563
00:32:35,436 --> 00:32:39,819
which had an Icelandic theme
to it, so we nicked it,
564
00:32:39,854 --> 00:32:43,754
flew it to Iceland, and we
did a big burial ceremony.
565
00:32:43,789 --> 00:32:47,517
Art Qaeda strikes again,
who is the next one?
566
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:51,314
Doug Fishbone, he
made this sculpture,
567
00:32:51,348 --> 00:32:53,247
it was just a big pyramid
of fucking bananas.
568
00:32:53,281 --> 00:32:54,973
I turned up in a gorilla suit,
569
00:32:55,007 --> 00:32:58,045
stuck a sign in the top,
"arto-political humourism."
570
00:32:58,079 --> 00:32:59,667
- Which I really don't know
exactly what that means,
571
00:32:59,701 --> 00:33:01,220
but he's been using
it for 10 years,
572
00:33:01,255 --> 00:33:03,429
so it must be relevant
for something.
573
00:33:03,464 --> 00:33:05,362
- I'm a guerrilla
outfit, you know,
574
00:33:05,397 --> 00:33:07,295
I run a guerrilla organization,
575
00:33:07,330 --> 00:33:11,610
and there were bananas, it
was just too fucking easy.
576
00:33:11,644 --> 00:33:15,200
- Suddenly, people
knew this name, AK-47,
577
00:33:15,234 --> 00:33:16,684
you know, especially Banksy.
578
00:33:16,718 --> 00:33:21,171
- Art Qaeda, we are here, which
you cannot acknowledge now.
579
00:33:21,206 --> 00:33:24,036
- So there we are with
this guy, who was saying
580
00:33:24,071 --> 00:33:28,661
that he was holding this
Drinker for a ransom.
581
00:33:28,696 --> 00:33:32,872
- And that's all, folks.
582
00:33:34,081 --> 00:33:36,393
We will be in touch.
583
00:33:36,428 --> 00:33:38,809
We made a ransom
note, I think it said,
584
00:33:38,844 --> 00:33:41,260
"Help me please, Banksy,"
and I just put it
585
00:33:41,295 --> 00:33:45,402
on one, one sheet
of paper, ,
586
00:33:45,437 --> 00:33:47,887
and it, it just ran like a
proper terrorist thing then,
587
00:33:47,922 --> 00:33:51,477
you know, and it just went
like I wanted it to, really.
588
00:33:51,512 --> 00:33:53,065
We're gonna issue our demands,
589
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:55,378
and see, I'll only send
it when I want you.
590
00:33:55,412 --> 00:33:56,896
- The money.
591
00:33:56,931 --> 00:34:00,383
- Yeah, it's not the money,
it's not for the money.
592
00:34:01,867 --> 00:34:06,044
Attention of Banksy,
that's...
593
00:34:12,464 --> 00:34:14,880
I think I'll have a biscuit.
594
00:34:14,914 --> 00:34:18,056
- He came up with this
idea to call The Guardian,
595
00:34:18,090 --> 00:34:20,851
and Simon Hattenstone
was his go-between.
596
00:34:20,886 --> 00:34:24,096
- Simon Hattenstone then
becomes hostage negotiator,
597
00:34:24,131 --> 00:34:26,685
not because he wanted to,
but he was the only one
598
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,514
with contacts to us both.
599
00:34:43,736 --> 00:34:46,705
- Yeah, it's
true, it had gone.
600
00:34:46,739 --> 00:34:50,088
We received a ransom
letter with some pictures
601
00:34:50,122 --> 00:34:54,333
of the statue, with GafferTape
over its eyes and mouth,
602
00:34:54,368 --> 00:34:56,094
it looked quite good, actually.
603
00:34:56,128 --> 00:34:57,543
- I said, "I'll take
five grand for it,"
604
00:34:57,578 --> 00:34:59,718
that's what I said, I said,
"I'll take five grand,"
605
00:34:59,752 --> 00:35:02,307
to cover expenses and
a drink out of it,
606
00:35:02,341 --> 00:35:04,378
enough to buy a Banksy canvas.
607
00:35:04,412 --> 00:35:06,069
- So I told
him I was only prepared
608
00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:08,382
to leave money in a
suitcase on the condition
609
00:35:08,416 --> 00:35:11,316
that they dump The Drinker
in the Serpentine Gallery,
610
00:35:11,350 --> 00:35:14,871
or the New Tate, or next to
The Cenotaph in Whitehall.
611
00:35:14,905 --> 00:35:16,976
- Cheeky fucking, if
he can't fucking do it,
612
00:35:17,011 --> 00:35:19,841
I'm not doing his work for
him, I'm not taking the piss.
613
00:35:19,876 --> 00:35:21,981
- Well, I
had a think about it,
614
00:35:22,016 --> 00:35:23,466
and I said I was willing
to give him two pounds
615
00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:26,469
towards a can of petrol, it
has to be unleaded, mind,
616
00:35:26,503 --> 00:35:28,333
so they can
incinerate the thing.
617
00:35:28,367 --> 00:35:30,507
- Fine, tell him to
give me a petrol can
618
00:35:30,542 --> 00:35:33,407
and sign the petrol
can, and I'll do it.
619
00:35:33,441 --> 00:35:34,511
- Well,
my only regret was
620
00:35:34,546 --> 00:35:36,582
that I thought that The Drinker
621
00:35:36,617 --> 00:35:37,825
on fire would look a lot better
622
00:35:37,859 --> 00:35:40,103
than my Drinker,
which is annoying,
623
00:35:40,138 --> 00:35:42,001
but that was my final offer.
624
00:35:42,036 --> 00:35:43,727
- Banksy was like, "I'm
not playing with him,
625
00:35:43,762 --> 00:35:45,246
you've stole my thunder,"
626
00:35:45,281 --> 00:35:47,179
seems to me like you
were a right minger,
627
00:35:47,214 --> 00:35:50,941
little fucking spoiled brat,
and I didn't just get him
628
00:35:50,976 --> 00:35:53,392
an art one-piece, I
got him the front cover
629
00:35:53,427 --> 00:35:55,774
and a two page fucking spread,
630
00:35:55,808 --> 00:35:58,466
he couldn't have bought
that publicity I got him,
631
00:35:58,501 --> 00:36:01,262
so I asked him, ,
I thought, "Well, you know,
632
00:36:01,297 --> 00:36:03,402
it'll go nice, well,
thanks for that,"
633
00:36:03,437 --> 00:36:05,991
again, I thought I'd
done him a fucking favor.
634
00:36:06,025 --> 00:36:09,305
All I'd happy with were
to meet the guy from it,
635
00:36:09,339 --> 00:36:11,859
and he could have had it back.
636
00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:14,586
- Well,
actually, I was quite glad
637
00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:16,450
to be rid of him, the thing is,
I only live in a small flat,
638
00:36:16,484 --> 00:36:18,003
so I didn't really
have the space.
639
00:36:18,037 --> 00:36:19,936
- He didn't give a fuck,
I've got a fucking Banksy
640
00:36:19,970 --> 00:36:21,524
in my backyard
that were going up
641
00:36:21,558 --> 00:36:23,526
in value every fucking week.
642
00:36:30,602 --> 00:36:34,606
I loved it, I loved my
statue in my garden.
643
00:36:35,952 --> 00:36:37,125
It were great, you know, I used
644
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,851
to look out my
window and see it,
645
00:36:38,886 --> 00:36:40,577
all the neighbors liked it.
646
00:36:43,787 --> 00:36:45,375
My neighbors used to say,
"I love that statue,"
647
00:36:45,410 --> 00:36:47,412
you know, "It's great,
that we walk past
648
00:36:47,446 --> 00:36:50,138
that bit of garden and
smile every time we see it."
649
00:36:53,314 --> 00:36:56,421
Yeah, of course I
got attached to it.
650
00:37:00,977 --> 00:37:04,152
- Um, well, a
scrupulous honesty is a,
651
00:37:05,292 --> 00:37:08,156
is a rare commodity
in the art world.
652
00:37:09,537 --> 00:37:10,607
If someone had come to me then,
653
00:37:10,642 --> 00:37:13,472
"I've got the drinker,"
I'd have gone,
654
00:37:13,507 --> 00:37:18,166
"Hmm, how tall is it, will
it fit in my gallery?"
655
00:37:18,201 --> 00:37:20,341
If someone comes to
me with some piece
656
00:37:20,376 --> 00:37:23,413
of street art they
removed off the street,
657
00:37:23,448 --> 00:37:25,760
then all they've done
is create a vacancy.
658
00:37:25,795 --> 00:37:28,038
- I mean, what you have to
understand is the art world
659
00:37:28,073 --> 00:37:31,076
is manifestly corrupt,
right across the board.
660
00:37:31,110 --> 00:37:33,630
What there is is people doing
the dinner party circuit
661
00:37:33,665 --> 00:37:36,150
in West London, in
Hollywood, et cetera,
662
00:37:36,184 --> 00:37:39,912
and they want to have the
best, the biggest Banksy,
663
00:37:39,947 --> 00:37:42,570
it's, "Come and have
a look at my Banksy."
664
00:37:42,605 --> 00:37:45,228
- Obviously Banksy is bankable,
he always wanted to be,
665
00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:47,989
why did he call himself
Banksy, robbing banks?
666
00:37:48,024 --> 00:37:49,750
We were just doing a bit
of bankability for him,
667
00:37:49,784 --> 00:37:53,995
we're just taking his play
on his name one step further.
668
00:37:55,549 --> 00:37:59,553
- I started to think about
covering my ass legally.
669
00:37:59,587 --> 00:38:03,453
The best thing to do
is be a good citizen,
670
00:38:03,488 --> 00:38:06,560
go to the police and say,
"Look what I've found."
671
00:38:08,941 --> 00:38:11,047
- If you find a gold
watch on the floor,
672
00:38:11,081 --> 00:38:13,636
you take it to the
police station, if
you're daft enough to,
673
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:16,017
it potentially
could become yours.
674
00:38:16,052 --> 00:38:18,917
- So I walked into
the police station,
675
00:38:18,951 --> 00:38:20,781
a copper came out and
says, "Can I help you?"
676
00:38:20,815 --> 00:38:24,681
And I says, "Yeah, I'd like
to report a found statue."
677
00:38:24,716 --> 00:38:25,786
So he goes, "Okay,
let me write,"
678
00:38:25,820 --> 00:38:27,201
and he stood at his blotter and,
679
00:38:27,235 --> 00:38:30,204
"Okay, so, can you describe it?"
680
00:38:30,238 --> 00:38:34,381
It's a 10 foot statue, a
copy of Rodin's The Thinker.
681
00:38:37,625 --> 00:38:38,592
- It's a what?
682
00:38:38,626 --> 00:38:40,076
- He laughed, just goes,
683
00:38:40,110 --> 00:38:42,561
"How the fuck did you
find a statue like that?"
684
00:38:42,596 --> 00:38:46,807
And I said, "Look, it's
by a graffiti artist,
685
00:38:46,841 --> 00:38:48,947
and he's put it out
there, it's a piece
686
00:38:48,981 --> 00:38:51,087
of street art, I think."
687
00:38:52,778 --> 00:38:54,228
"How the fuck did you get that?"
688
00:38:54,262 --> 00:38:56,230
"Well, I took it in a lorry."
689
00:38:56,264 --> 00:38:57,714
"In a lorry, but
you just found it?"
690
00:38:57,749 --> 00:38:59,820
I'm not gonna sit here
and explain the concepts
691
00:38:59,854 --> 00:39:02,995
and legalities of street
art to a policeman,
692
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:07,103
you know, it's a little
bit out of your field.
693
00:39:07,137 --> 00:39:09,933
- You're fucking right it's
out of my fucking field.
694
00:39:09,968 --> 00:39:11,107
- And he said, "You
know what, man,
695
00:39:11,141 --> 00:39:13,247
I haven't got
fucking time for this,
696
00:39:13,281 --> 00:39:15,145
just give me the
fucking details."
697
00:39:15,180 --> 00:39:18,632
He says, "We've nowhere
to store it."
698
00:39:18,666 --> 00:39:22,774
I says, "It's okay, I've
got somewhere safe for it."
699
00:39:22,808 --> 00:39:24,327
He gave me a little
green slip saying,
700
00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:27,157
"There you go, if nobody gets
in touch within three months."
701
00:39:27,192 --> 00:39:28,849
- It's yours.
702
00:39:28,883 --> 00:39:32,197
- Andy did what I think is
a really sophisticated act,
703
00:39:32,231 --> 00:39:34,372
to have gone and
reported it found.
704
00:39:34,406 --> 00:39:38,065
- Technically, the
law being constructs,
705
00:39:38,099 --> 00:39:40,550
he does own it, unless
the artist came forward
706
00:39:40,585 --> 00:39:43,829
and said, "Actually, I
created this work of art,
707
00:39:43,864 --> 00:39:46,004
"and it belongs
to me by default."
708
00:39:46,038 --> 00:39:49,352
But then, they can be
like, "Well," you know,
709
00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:52,942
"Now we know who you are,
then your nicked, son."
710
00:39:55,151 --> 00:39:58,361
- I felt like Neville
Chamberlain, "In
my hand is a piece
711
00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:02,538
"of paper declaring the war
with Banksy is over."
712
00:40:09,855 --> 00:40:11,823
- Andy went to the police,
713
00:40:11,857 --> 00:40:13,963
then the piece
became legally his,
714
00:40:13,997 --> 00:40:17,104
and he had it put in his garden,
715
00:40:17,138 --> 00:40:20,072
and then, I understand
that Banksy had a bit
716
00:40:20,107 --> 00:40:23,731
of a sense of humor
failure about this,
717
00:40:23,766 --> 00:40:26,700
which I slightly
sympathize with.
718
00:40:32,153 --> 00:40:34,811
- I'm not quite sure
how bothered Banksy was
719
00:40:34,846 --> 00:40:37,573
about the situation, but I feel
720
00:40:37,607 --> 00:40:39,747
that it may have pissed him off,
721
00:40:39,782 --> 00:40:42,750
you know, even ever so slightly.
722
00:40:42,785 --> 00:40:45,615
You have the
impression from Andy
723
00:40:45,650 --> 00:40:48,342
that he would have milked
that for a long time,
724
00:40:48,376 --> 00:40:50,931
he probably would have made
100 videos out of that.
725
00:40:50,965 --> 00:40:52,967
- We are the revolution.
726
00:40:55,694 --> 00:40:58,110
This, this is the revolution.
727
00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:02,701
- I think Banksy just
wanted it to stop.
728
00:41:04,669 --> 00:41:08,880
- This shady funking mank
started to get involved,
729
00:41:08,914 --> 00:41:12,780
dodging over from the other
side of the ,
730
00:41:12,815 --> 00:41:14,299
he'd seen it in me
backyard and he were one
731
00:41:14,333 --> 00:41:17,613
of the few people that knew
it was in my back garden,
732
00:41:17,647 --> 00:41:20,098
and he just constantly
kept hounding me about it,
733
00:41:20,132 --> 00:41:24,205
and I'm like, "Fuck
off, scally fucker."
734
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,070
So three to six months later,
an old friend of mine says,
735
00:41:27,105 --> 00:41:28,313
"Will you come to
Rotterdam with me?
736
00:41:28,347 --> 00:41:29,210
"I've got to pick up my dog."
737
00:41:30,522 --> 00:41:33,974
And funnily enough,
that fucking scummy,
738
00:41:34,008 --> 00:41:37,287
fucking scally
rings me up, "Hey,
739
00:41:37,322 --> 00:41:40,394
"can we take Monday ,
'cause the fucking
740
00:41:40,428 --> 00:41:41,913
"are playing, I'll be in
London," and I'm like,
741
00:41:41,947 --> 00:41:45,468
"No, mate, I won't be back
now until Sunday night."
742
00:41:49,576 --> 00:41:53,234
I gets home on the
Sunday afternoon,
743
00:41:53,269 --> 00:41:55,823
goes to take my
beloved dog for a walk,
744
00:41:55,858 --> 00:41:59,344
and as I come around
the back, horror.
745
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,325
Stolen, stolen, gone.
746
00:42:21,297 --> 00:42:22,194
Striking the same pose
747
00:42:22,229 --> 00:42:24,300
as his beloved Banksy sculpture,
748
00:42:24,334 --> 00:42:26,958
the owner says the fiberglass
Drinker has been stolen
749
00:42:26,992 --> 00:42:29,374
from his back garden in Hackney.
750
00:42:29,408 --> 00:42:32,066
- I went to the press, I
went straight to the press,
751
00:42:32,101 --> 00:42:35,725
I have to let the world know
that I am the legal owner.
752
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,968
I put posters up
round the street;
753
00:42:37,002 --> 00:42:39,971
Did anybody see anything?
754
00:42:40,005 --> 00:42:43,871
'cause I got the
antiquities police involved.
755
00:42:43,906 --> 00:42:45,390
Look, this is a work by Banksy,
756
00:42:45,424 --> 00:42:47,392
it's an important
work by Banksy,
757
00:42:47,426 --> 00:42:50,188
could be worth up to a million
quid in a few years time,
758
00:42:50,222 --> 00:42:54,399
it has to be down as
a stolen work of art.
759
00:42:54,433 --> 00:42:56,366
So that's what they did,
it's registered down,
760
00:42:56,401 --> 00:43:00,060
if that piece comes up on the
world market, it is stolen.
761
00:43:00,094 --> 00:43:01,993
- The police
accept he is the legal owner,
762
00:43:02,027 --> 00:43:04,133
even though he found and
took the work himself
763
00:43:04,167 --> 00:43:06,376
from Shaftesbury
Avenue three years ago.
764
00:43:06,411 --> 00:43:09,172
- I was at an old
villain's house in Essex,
765
00:43:09,207 --> 00:43:10,622
and he is an old
villain, and, you know,
766
00:43:10,657 --> 00:43:14,695
all his friends, they're
all old villains.
767
00:43:14,730 --> 00:43:16,835
"Did you hear about the statue?"
768
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:19,976
I said, "Yes, of
course," and he said,
769
00:43:20,011 --> 00:43:22,254
"I was the one that
snatched it back."
770
00:43:22,289 --> 00:43:26,569
So I nearly fell over,
I was like, "What?"
771
00:43:26,604 --> 00:43:29,089
They did exactly the
same as what he did,
772
00:43:29,123 --> 00:43:33,403
they rolled up to AK-47's
house, high-viz jackets,
773
00:43:33,438 --> 00:43:36,441
you know, hard hats,
backed up the truck
774
00:43:36,475 --> 00:43:39,099
and just loaded it
onto the...
775
00:43:39,133 --> 00:43:41,066
- I knew straightaway
what had fucking gone on,
776
00:43:41,101 --> 00:43:45,001
and it took me 30 seconds to
work out who, what, and why.
777
00:43:45,036 --> 00:43:46,693
"I don't know what you're
fucking talking about,
778
00:43:46,727 --> 00:43:49,074
Linky, I don't know, it's
not to fucking do with me,
779
00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:50,558
hey, hey, you've
got this all wrong,
780
00:43:50,593 --> 00:43:53,285
you've got this
all fucking wrong."
781
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,597
I knew I hadn't got it wrong,
782
00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:56,392
I knew damn well
what had gone on.
783
00:43:56,426 --> 00:43:58,394
He told them that
I wouldn't be there
784
00:43:58,428 --> 00:44:01,466
and it was in my back garden.
785
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:05,677
- Only one person would
commission other people
786
00:44:05,712 --> 00:44:07,368
to take this piece of art.
787
00:44:07,403 --> 00:44:10,199
- Well, it's obvious who
fucking set it up, innit,
788
00:44:10,233 --> 00:44:12,442
it doesn't take two and
two to make that out.
789
00:44:12,477 --> 00:44:14,721
- I don't know whether Banksy
had it stolen back or not,
790
00:44:14,755 --> 00:44:18,621
but the word is that
him or his people did.
791
00:44:21,831 --> 00:44:23,626
- And I got a phone
call from his manager,
792
00:44:23,661 --> 00:44:25,352
Steve Lazarides, he says, "Oh,
793
00:44:25,386 --> 00:44:26,940
I've heard you've
had the statue stolen,
794
00:44:26,974 --> 00:44:30,357
oh, I'm really sorry to hear
that, but we haven't got it."
795
00:44:30,391 --> 00:44:33,256
But he, what he said
to me was the giveaway,
796
00:44:33,291 --> 00:44:36,570
'cause he said to me,
"Well, you'll do all right,
797
00:44:36,604 --> 00:44:40,678
you've still got the
traffic cone, haven't you?"
798
00:44:42,403 --> 00:44:44,716
Now, how did he know that?
799
00:44:49,997 --> 00:44:54,415
- There are
four basic human needs,
800
00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:56,935
food, sleep, sex, and revenge.
801
00:44:59,766 --> 00:45:02,941
- He's on the
antiquities stolen squad,
802
00:45:02,976 --> 00:45:05,633
so Banksy couldn't
do fuck-all with it.
803
00:45:05,668 --> 00:45:07,083
So I had actually
assumed that he did
804
00:45:07,118 --> 00:45:10,708
what he wanted to
do and destroyed it.
805
00:45:20,787 --> 00:45:25,067
Devastation, you know,
I'd been cocky as fuck,
806
00:45:25,101 --> 00:45:27,932
and suddenly I were devastated,
807
00:45:27,966 --> 00:45:31,556
I felt like me stomach
had been ripped open,
808
00:45:31,590 --> 00:45:34,766
by this time, I'd have put
the statue at 100 grand,
809
00:45:34,801 --> 00:45:36,699
it's like I'd just
lost 100,000 pound out
810
00:45:36,734 --> 00:45:39,357
of me back garden, and
how would you feel?
811
00:45:39,391 --> 00:45:42,878
Like, it just became a
bit of a fucking joke.
812
00:45:48,538 --> 00:45:52,853
I hid my head in shame
and .
813
00:46:04,658 --> 00:46:06,902
- He's become the
thinker, hadn't he?
814
00:46:06,936 --> 00:46:09,387
He's like, really fucking,
"How am I gonna work this out,
815
00:46:09,421 --> 00:46:11,665
and how am I gonna, fucking,"
816
00:46:11,699 --> 00:46:13,149
maybe he should stick
the traffic cone
817
00:46:13,184 --> 00:46:15,738
on his head and assume position
818
00:46:15,773 --> 00:46:19,466
and just occupy his time
like that for some time,
819
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:23,401
and the thinking cap may
bring some enlightenment
820
00:46:23,435 --> 00:46:25,299
to his personal predicament.
821
00:46:34,377 --> 00:46:35,620
- It's a bunch of villains
822
00:46:35,654 --> 00:46:37,346
that have come and
taken this statue,
823
00:46:37,380 --> 00:46:41,488
so they've got no idea the cone
even belonged to the statue,
824
00:46:41,522 --> 00:46:43,352
they probably thought that
someone had just put it
825
00:46:43,386 --> 00:46:47,563
on there by mistake, or for
a laugh, or for a giggle.
826
00:46:47,597 --> 00:46:49,047
- The whole point
of this is, which,
827
00:46:49,082 --> 00:46:51,360
everybody is fucking missing,
828
00:46:51,394 --> 00:46:55,364
the actual Drinker is
not the work of art,
829
00:46:55,398 --> 00:46:59,057
The Drinker is a copy
of Rodin's The Thinker.
830
00:46:59,092 --> 00:47:01,853
The work of art
in itself is this,
831
00:47:03,268 --> 00:47:06,133
that's the fucking piece,
because that's the only thing
832
00:47:06,168 --> 00:47:08,342
that Banksy's paws have touched.
833
00:47:08,377 --> 00:47:09,550
- So he's got this,
he's got one part
834
00:47:09,585 --> 00:47:12,174
of the original
sculpture, that's fine,
835
00:47:12,208 --> 00:47:15,177
I mean, but it is,
it's a road cone.
836
00:47:16,350 --> 00:47:18,663
- So that is the work
of art, that's all
837
00:47:18,697 --> 00:47:21,252
that's the fucking Banksy,
and that's what's got,
838
00:47:21,286 --> 00:47:23,426
that's what's got
his original finish.
839
00:47:23,461 --> 00:47:26,533
- Well, it's got to
be madness, innit?
840
00:47:26,567 --> 00:47:28,707
Who is actually gonna want
to possess a traffic cone
841
00:47:28,742 --> 00:47:30,364
that might have
been touched by him,
842
00:47:30,399 --> 00:47:33,505
it's entirely within
the realms of fantasy,
843
00:47:33,540 --> 00:47:36,060
it's just obviously bollocks.
844
00:47:41,582 --> 00:47:43,136
- It could have all washed away,
845
00:47:43,170 --> 00:47:44,585
and I'd just be left with this
846
00:47:44,620 --> 00:47:48,969
as a, as a stand for me
fucking fan, and that'd be it.
847
00:47:52,662 --> 00:47:54,837
So I'm at a party at a
friend's house one night,
848
00:47:54,872 --> 00:47:56,252
and I've sat down,
having a spliff
849
00:47:56,287 --> 00:47:58,427
with this fucking hippie,
and I'm telling him
850
00:47:58,461 --> 00:48:01,430
about The Drinker story,
and he turned around and,
851
00:48:01,464 --> 00:48:04,122
"Oh, you nicked that
fucking Banksy statue,
852
00:48:04,157 --> 00:48:07,677
"I know the guy that
made it," ding, what?
853
00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:15,547
- Every piece
of art that comes up,
854
00:48:15,582 --> 00:48:18,516
I say, "Yeah, it's
Banksy," not realizing
855
00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:20,932
that it might not
necessarily be his handiwork,
856
00:48:20,967 --> 00:48:23,141
it might be just his idea.
857
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,419
- Warhol didn't
make all his works,
858
00:48:25,454 --> 00:48:27,318
The Factory's chucking them out,
859
00:48:27,352 --> 00:48:29,492
same as Damien Hirst
does, he doesn't make 'em,
860
00:48:29,527 --> 00:48:31,080
he gets his fucking
minions to do it,
861
00:48:31,115 --> 00:48:33,186
his little fucking elves.
862
00:48:34,739 --> 00:48:36,327
Banksy couldn't make sculptures,
863
00:48:36,361 --> 00:48:39,261
Banksy doesn't make half
his fucking stencils.
864
00:48:39,295 --> 00:48:43,299
- The time that he called
us was a call for help,
865
00:48:43,334 --> 00:48:47,821
because I think fairly he
didn't have a deep knowledge
866
00:48:47,855 --> 00:48:50,237
of maybe working on a
large piece like that.
867
00:48:50,272 --> 00:48:53,275
- I don't really
know much about sculpture,
868
00:48:53,309 --> 00:48:56,485
so I mistakenly thought
that Rodin was just famous
869
00:48:56,519 --> 00:48:59,384
by accident, but
as it turns out,
870
00:48:59,419 --> 00:49:01,904
he's actually quite good, so
it wasn't as simple as that,
871
00:49:01,939 --> 00:49:05,770
and yeah, it's not as
easy as making stencils.
872
00:49:11,224 --> 00:49:15,642
- This idea started fucking
festering in me head,
873
00:49:15,676 --> 00:49:17,506
because I'd still got the cone,
874
00:49:17,540 --> 00:49:20,992
still got part of the
image of the sculpture,
875
00:49:21,027 --> 00:49:22,718
I started looking
into a history of art
876
00:49:22,752 --> 00:49:24,616
that's been broken
and destroyed,
877
00:49:24,651 --> 00:49:26,687
and remade and restored.
878
00:49:28,034 --> 00:49:30,381
We're talking, they suddenly
found the broken armor
879
00:49:30,415 --> 00:49:32,762
for Michelangelo, you
could put the rest to it,
880
00:49:32,797 --> 00:49:36,318
that would then become
a restored Michelangelo.
881
00:49:36,352 --> 00:49:39,528
So Damien Hirst's shark
was rotting in the gallery,
882
00:49:39,562 --> 00:49:42,772
they skinned it and put
it on a plastic model,
883
00:49:42,807 --> 00:49:44,947
and the whole world accepted
that as the original,
884
00:49:44,982 --> 00:49:50,056
including Damien Hirst, if
I get the statue re-made
885
00:49:50,090 --> 00:49:52,092
by the original fabricators,
886
00:49:52,127 --> 00:49:55,647
it then becomes a
restoration piece,
887
00:49:55,682 --> 00:49:58,340
I'm bringing back a lost Banksy.
888
00:50:01,412 --> 00:50:02,654
- By reconstructing statues
889
00:50:02,689 --> 00:50:05,519
that have been stolen is
actually a viable thing,
890
00:50:05,554 --> 00:50:07,452
as long as it's to scale,
891
00:50:07,487 --> 00:50:10,593
original maquette
would certainly give
it more provenance.
892
00:50:10,628 --> 00:50:12,664
- How ya doing, mate?
893
00:50:12,699 --> 00:50:15,495
So I met with these guys, and
they seemed pretty genuine.
894
00:50:15,529 --> 00:50:16,737
They showed me all
the photographs
895
00:50:16,772 --> 00:50:20,362
of the work that they'd
done on the original.
896
00:50:21,501 --> 00:50:24,124
Twin brothers, both called Sam.
897
00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:26,920
I mean, what mother has
twins and calls them Sam,
898
00:50:26,954 --> 00:50:29,440
Sam and Samuel,
it's like, oh, wow.
899
00:50:29,474 --> 00:50:32,788
- The way we work is
to help other artists,
900
00:50:32,822 --> 00:50:35,860
whether you are big
or not, to achieve
901
00:50:35,894 --> 00:50:37,620
whatever idea you
want to achieve.
902
00:50:42,832 --> 00:50:46,146
- Andy contacted the
original sculptor,
903
00:50:46,181 --> 00:50:49,460
who I understand has an
original maquette of the work,
904
00:50:49,494 --> 00:50:51,669
which is a small version
of the sculpture,
905
00:50:51,703 --> 00:50:54,189
and he's asked them
to recreate it,
906
00:50:54,223 --> 00:50:57,985
and then I assume he's
gonna want to sell it.
907
00:50:59,504 --> 00:51:00,988
- He said if I
wanted another one,
908
00:51:01,023 --> 00:51:04,509
he could make it exact
for about 20 grand,
909
00:51:06,477 --> 00:51:07,961
and then when I went
back to him next time,
910
00:51:07,995 --> 00:51:11,171
it had suddenly gone
up from 20 to 40,
911
00:51:12,621 --> 00:51:15,969
I'm still thinking, "Okay,
if it's 30, 40 grand in it,
912
00:51:16,003 --> 00:51:19,869
it's getting a bit much,
but I'm on this road now
913
00:51:19,904 --> 00:51:21,871
and I'm committed to it."
914
00:51:23,149 --> 00:51:26,497
Beg, steal, borrowed,
pestered, hounded.
915
00:51:29,638 --> 00:51:31,226
It took me about
five years, yeah,
916
00:51:31,260 --> 00:51:34,608
when I got the money I
felt pretty goddamn good,
917
00:51:34,643 --> 00:51:37,577
like, yeah, now we
can fucking go for it.
918
00:51:37,611 --> 00:51:40,649
Once I say I'm gonna do
something, then I fucking do it,
919
00:51:40,683 --> 00:51:45,136
no matter what consequences
come of it, I'll do it,
920
00:51:45,171 --> 00:51:47,449
and it's a major
piece by Banksy,
921
00:51:47,483 --> 00:51:49,692
it was his first major statue,
922
00:51:49,727 --> 00:51:53,351
I am restoring a
lost work of art,
923
00:51:53,386 --> 00:51:55,526
and without me,
this piece will not,
924
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,252
it'll never be seen again.
925
00:52:51,892 --> 00:52:56,103
It's the phoenix from the
flames, it's gonna rise again,
926
00:52:57,484 --> 00:53:00,591
and I'm gonna rub it
right in his fucking face.
927
00:53:19,023 --> 00:53:22,923
- Andy's idea of
recreating The Drinker,
928
00:53:22,958 --> 00:53:25,098
I felt was a brilliant idea,
929
00:53:25,132 --> 00:53:28,308
because it gave
Andy another run.
930
00:53:39,181 --> 00:53:41,770
- Welcome home.
931
00:53:41,804 --> 00:53:43,910
I wouldn't say I were
lumbered with a giant statue,
932
00:53:43,944 --> 00:53:47,431
I'd just say I'd got one
unusually large garden gnome.
933
00:53:47,465 --> 00:53:52,056
It's in a very secure
place.
934
00:53:52,090 --> 00:53:56,992
It's hidden in the extensive
arcade and warehouse complex.
935
00:53:58,235 --> 00:54:00,927
Yeah, yeah, exactly,
exactly, yes.
936
00:54:02,963 --> 00:54:04,620
All right, here we go then,
fella.
937
00:54:04,655 --> 00:54:08,831
Yeah, well, I didn't come
to play at the sale of it,
938
00:54:08,866 --> 00:54:10,316
I'd love it to
sell at Christie's
939
00:54:10,350 --> 00:54:13,284
and make a million fucking
quid, of course I would.
940
00:54:13,319 --> 00:54:17,323
- You can re-edit works by
an artist in the art world,
941
00:54:17,357 --> 00:54:21,050
but you generally have
to use the original molds
942
00:54:21,085 --> 00:54:25,262
or get the artist's consent,
and here you have neither.
943
00:54:26,435 --> 00:54:29,127
It's a sort of mongrel,
it's not a purebred.
944
00:54:29,162 --> 00:54:32,821
You have mark one cone
with mark two Drinker,
945
00:54:32,855 --> 00:54:34,788
and this is going
to affect value.
946
00:54:34,823 --> 00:54:37,412
If you were able to get
a certificate from them,
947
00:54:37,446 --> 00:54:39,724
from Banksy to say,
"You know what,
948
00:54:39,759 --> 00:54:42,071
yeah, I endorse this
thing, and it was made
949
00:54:42,106 --> 00:54:43,763
by the original artist,
who I commissioned
950
00:54:43,797 --> 00:54:46,835
to make this sculpture,
and I will allow this
951
00:54:46,869 --> 00:54:50,804
to be a Banksy," rubber
stamp, a million quid.
952
00:54:51,667 --> 00:54:53,151
Without that piece of paper,
953
00:54:53,186 --> 00:54:55,809
and without that endorsement,
it's a difficult sell.
954
00:54:55,844 --> 00:55:00,573
It would be very helpful
to have Banksy come onboard
955
00:55:00,607 --> 00:55:03,023
and make some sort of comment,
956
00:55:03,058 --> 00:55:05,474
but Banksy isn't
gonna comment on it,
957
00:55:05,509 --> 00:55:08,443
but being Andy, he's
not gonna give up,
958
00:55:08,477 --> 00:55:11,066
and because he's a pest.
959
00:55:15,726 --> 00:55:18,694
- Pest Control
is a handling service acting
960
00:55:18,729 --> 00:55:22,974
on behalf of the artist,
Banksy, we answer inquiries
961
00:55:23,009 --> 00:55:25,632
and determine whether
he was responsible
962
00:55:25,667 --> 00:55:28,186
for making a certain
piece of artwork,
963
00:55:28,221 --> 00:55:31,604
and issue paperwork
if this is the case.
964
00:55:36,436 --> 00:55:38,990
- The Banksy machine has
become more important
965
00:55:39,025 --> 00:55:42,649
than Banksy himself, the
press have picked up this sort
966
00:55:42,684 --> 00:55:44,755
of Robin Hood
character that he is,
967
00:55:44,789 --> 00:55:46,757
the myth that he's putting
his street work out there
968
00:55:46,791 --> 00:55:49,138
for the people, completely
overlooking the fact
969
00:55:49,173 --> 00:55:52,418
that there's a big money-making
machine behind this.
970
00:55:52,452 --> 00:55:55,386
Basically, the artist
uses the street works
971
00:55:55,421 --> 00:55:58,527
as the to his
canvases and prints,
972
00:55:58,562 --> 00:56:01,565
and obviously, for his own
benefit as much anything else,
973
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:05,120
can't authenticate it, it'd
be like signing a confession.
974
00:56:05,154 --> 00:56:07,260
- Pest
Control is our sole point
975
00:56:07,294 --> 00:56:10,436
of sale for new work by Banksy.
976
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:11,954
- None of the established
auction houses
977
00:56:11,989 --> 00:56:15,648
in the UK or the US will
accept any Banksy artwork
978
00:56:15,682 --> 00:56:17,477
without Pest Control provenance.
979
00:56:17,512 --> 00:56:19,099
- Oh, I'm gonna
go on as Andy Link,
980
00:56:19,134 --> 00:56:21,136
organization, Art Qaeda.
981
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,416
- It's a horribly
lengthy process,
982
00:56:25,451 --> 00:56:28,246
you'd have to prove as much
as you physically could,
983
00:56:28,281 --> 00:56:31,111
you have as much documentary
evidence of this.
984
00:56:31,146 --> 00:56:33,355
- I fucking hate paperwork.
985
00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:36,013
- You've got a photograph
in situ of the piece,
986
00:56:36,047 --> 00:56:37,704
to get as many
letters of provenance
987
00:56:37,739 --> 00:56:41,915
or anything of history
surrounding the piece itself.
988
00:56:43,676 --> 00:56:45,885
- It's a litany
of little details
989
00:56:45,919 --> 00:56:47,611
that build the bigger picture.
990
00:56:47,645 --> 00:56:48,922
- When did I, when
did I nick it,
991
00:56:48,957 --> 00:56:52,029
1st of April, right, dimensions,
992
00:56:52,063 --> 00:56:54,549
how big is the fucking statue?
993
00:56:56,033 --> 00:56:58,587
It's clever, you see, what's
the purchase price of that,
994
00:56:58,622 --> 00:57:03,178
if you don't fill that
in, you can't send it off.
995
00:57:03,212 --> 00:57:07,389
These are the things, the
fucking work these, these.
996
00:57:08,666 --> 00:57:10,841
- They exist only in the ether,
997
00:57:10,875 --> 00:57:14,154
there is no tangible address
Andy could truck up there
998
00:57:14,189 --> 00:57:15,570
with his sculpture.
999
00:57:15,604 --> 00:57:17,295
- Fucking.
1000
00:57:17,330 --> 00:57:19,159
- So good luck to him.
1001
00:57:20,540 --> 00:57:21,955
- Please be aware
1002
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:24,855
that because many
Banksy pieces are created
1003
00:57:24,889 --> 00:57:27,547
in an advanced state
of intoxication,
1004
00:57:27,582 --> 00:57:31,793
the authentication process can
be lengthy and challenging.
1005
00:57:33,691 --> 00:57:35,313
- If Banksy won't
give you provenance,
1006
00:57:35,348 --> 00:57:36,625
I can't sell it.
1007
00:57:38,972 --> 00:57:42,217
My provenance is in the front
cover of the fucking Guardian,
1008
00:57:42,251 --> 00:57:44,564
it's all down in
black and white,
1009
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:46,221
how could he say
it is, one minute,
1010
00:57:46,255 --> 00:57:48,913
and then say it isn't, the next?
1011
00:57:54,747 --> 00:57:55,955
- If you ignore
him, he'll go away,
1012
00:57:55,989 --> 00:57:57,163
but like Link, he
won't, will he,
1013
00:57:57,197 --> 00:57:58,958
that's the thing,
he's just relentless.
1014
00:58:04,101 --> 00:58:05,482
- I'm
currently unavailable,
1015
00:58:05,516 --> 00:58:06,862
please leave your message
1016
00:58:06,897 --> 00:58:09,624
and I'll get back
to you, thanks, bye.
1017
00:58:09,658 --> 00:58:12,040
- Please leave your
message after the tone.
1018
00:58:12,074 --> 00:58:14,732
To re-record your
message, key hash anytime.
1019
00:58:16,009 --> 00:58:19,772
- Hi, Laz, come on,
don't be full of shit.
1020
00:58:19,806 --> 00:58:22,326
You know, you don't
blank me fucking calls,
1021
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,224
what's wrong, don't
you want to talk to me?
1022
00:58:24,259 --> 00:58:28,332
I can't understand
that, I'm very polite,
1023
00:58:28,366 --> 00:58:31,818
very pleasant with
you, and you know,
1024
00:58:31,853 --> 00:58:34,372
I've rung you on a
decent fucking chat,
1025
00:58:34,407 --> 00:58:36,996
for a chat, this is bollocks,
1026
00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:39,826
and it's fucking rude, as well.
1027
00:58:39,861 --> 00:58:42,139
- I don't know if AK-47's
deal with Pest Control,
1028
00:58:42,173 --> 00:58:44,210
but you can imagine, that's
like a match made in heaven,
1029
00:58:44,244 --> 00:58:48,525
'cause they'll just piss each
other off to kingdom come.
1030
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:52,701
- Now this is as rare as
fucking rocking horse shit.
1031
00:58:53,737 --> 00:58:54,910
Hello?
1032
00:58:54,945 --> 00:58:56,118
- Hello,
hello, did you ring?
1033
00:58:56,153 --> 00:58:58,051
- Yeah, hello,
oh, is that Holly?
1034
00:58:58,086 --> 00:58:58,983
- Yeah.
1035
00:58:59,018 --> 00:59:01,261
- Hi, this is Andy Link here.
1036
00:59:03,781 --> 00:59:04,713
- Is who, sorry?
1037
00:59:04,748 --> 00:59:05,749
- Andy Link?
1038
00:59:08,372 --> 00:59:09,200
AK-47.
1039
00:59:10,408 --> 00:59:11,927
- Oh, okay.
1040
00:59:11,962 --> 00:59:15,034
- Um, just wondered if
we could get some sort
1041
00:59:15,068 --> 00:59:19,279
of chat about this, about
The Drinker and everything,
1042
00:59:20,591 --> 00:59:22,041
and discussions
about it, you know,
1043
00:59:22,075 --> 00:59:24,077
it's been, this has been
going on for too long,
1044
00:59:24,112 --> 00:59:26,701
and it's too, he, it's,
it's, it's not nasty,
1045
00:59:26,735 --> 00:59:29,324
he's never been nasty, but
it's seeming now like it's,
1046
00:59:29,358 --> 00:59:31,360
you're spiraling
sillily out of control,
1047
00:59:31,395 --> 00:59:35,848
and this can all be done in a
really nice way for everybody,
1048
00:59:35,882 --> 00:59:39,783
so what do you think,
what do you think, Holly?
1049
00:59:46,444 --> 00:59:48,964
- Pest Control
will not authenticate
1050
00:59:48,999 --> 00:59:53,762
street works, do not steal
them, they are worthless.
1051
00:59:53,797 --> 00:59:56,420
- But I've got more
chances of knitting fog
1052
00:59:56,454 --> 00:59:58,111
than getting
provenance for that.
1053
00:59:58,146 --> 01:00:00,597
- So you're gonna have
to, to market this,
1054
01:00:00,631 --> 01:00:03,841
it's gonna have to be a slightly
more surprising surprise,
1055
01:00:03,876 --> 01:00:06,430
a maverick kind of enterprise.
1056
01:00:06,464 --> 01:00:10,158
- You've got to put value on
it through telling the story.
1057
01:00:17,579 --> 01:00:22,204
- We're ,
it's Banksy's Dismal,
1058
01:00:22,239 --> 01:00:24,413
what is it, Dismaland,
we've got The Drinker
1059
01:00:24,448 --> 01:00:26,174
on the back lot, there
he is, he's sat there
1060
01:00:26,208 --> 01:00:29,073
and having a nice
journey, I want to show
1061
01:00:29,108 --> 01:00:32,594
so people can see that
The Drinker is real.
1062
01:00:32,629 --> 01:00:35,148
The , they won't
give us any fucking joy,
1063
01:00:35,183 --> 01:00:37,979
so if they won't answer us,
if they mountain won't go
1064
01:00:38,013 --> 01:00:39,877
to Mohammad, well,
we'll take Mohammad
1065
01:00:39,912 --> 01:00:43,467
to wherever he wants
to fucking go.
1066
01:00:43,501 --> 01:00:47,644
Love me or hate me, you
will never, ever ignore me.
1067
01:00:49,611 --> 01:00:51,199
I had people all
around the world
1068
01:00:51,233 --> 01:00:52,856
and all around this
country all going out
1069
01:00:52,890 --> 01:00:54,478
with traffic cones
and just putting them
1070
01:00:54,512 --> 01:00:57,584
on statues, as
with my logo on it.
1071
01:00:57,619 --> 01:01:00,380
We got people in
Tehran, Australia,
1072
01:01:00,415 --> 01:01:03,590
Columbia, fucking strange
places like
1073
01:01:03,625 --> 01:01:05,282
and God knows where.
1074
01:01:06,973 --> 01:01:10,425
He has risen, resurrection
of The Drinker.
1075
01:01:10,459 --> 01:01:14,084
Ready or not, there we
are, look at the queue.
1076
01:01:14,118 --> 01:01:17,156
It was about getting
there, making your point,
1077
01:01:17,190 --> 01:01:20,366
let 'em know you'd beat,
let 'em know you'd beat.
1078
01:01:25,785 --> 01:01:29,893
It's a beautiful restoration,
you can't tell the difference.
1079
01:01:29,927 --> 01:01:31,653
We unveiled that in the street
1080
01:01:31,688 --> 01:01:34,587
and say, "It's The
Drinker, it's back,"
1081
01:01:34,621 --> 01:01:37,107
his fans will love it.
1082
01:01:37,141 --> 01:01:38,971
- It's a Banksy!
1083
01:01:46,323 --> 01:01:48,359
- It's around in
the truck, yeah.
1084
01:01:50,396 --> 01:01:52,570
All this, and all
this running around,
1085
01:01:52,605 --> 01:01:55,297
and now the moment is now.
1086
01:02:03,961 --> 01:02:05,480
The moment's gone.
1087
01:02:06,861 --> 01:02:08,034
Where are you?
1088
01:02:10,727 --> 01:02:11,900
And they just drove off and went
1089
01:02:11,935 --> 01:02:14,765
to a fucking cafe
and got some dinner.
1090
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,698
Well, I'm about,
fucking, the whole point
1091
01:02:16,733 --> 01:02:18,700
of this fucking thing
is to bring the truck,
1092
01:02:18,735 --> 01:02:20,322
and drive the truck up and down,
1093
01:02:20,357 --> 01:02:21,910
what's it doing parked
around the corner
1094
01:02:21,945 --> 01:02:23,947
where no one can see it?
1095
01:02:25,465 --> 01:02:27,364
Well, what the fucking
point of coming down here
1096
01:02:27,398 --> 01:02:30,229
if you don't want to
fucking drive it round?
1097
01:02:30,263 --> 01:02:34,060
We spent six hours in a
bastard van, for what?
1098
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:41,619
If everyone won't do it, I'll
just do it me fucking self,
1099
01:02:41,654 --> 01:02:44,036
it's only me who gets
things fucking done,
1100
01:02:44,070 --> 01:02:48,281
leave any control with
anybody and it just fucks up.
1101
01:02:52,113 --> 01:02:56,220
Yeah, I'm not fucking
happy, I'm fucking furious.
1102
01:02:58,015 --> 01:03:01,985
- He's definitely
got a bug up his ass.
1103
01:03:02,019 --> 01:03:04,366
I mean, I would rather do
other things with my time,
1104
01:03:04,401 --> 01:03:05,643
it's like a big, wide world,
1105
01:03:05,678 --> 01:03:08,163
where you can do an
awful lot of stuff.
1106
01:03:10,890 --> 01:03:14,342
The insult that AK-47
feels is not felt
1107
01:03:14,376 --> 01:03:16,206
on the other side,
so somebody's going,
1108
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,586
"What's, what's all this about?"
1109
01:03:28,701 --> 01:03:30,254
- Andy's not gonna draw him out,
1110
01:03:30,289 --> 01:03:32,774
even Andy, with a
good dose of Andy,
1111
01:03:32,809 --> 01:03:35,190
is not gonna draw out Banksy.
1112
01:03:38,711 --> 01:03:41,541
- I don't want this to come
across in a negative way,
1113
01:03:41,576 --> 01:03:45,718
you know, but I don't think
nobody cares, nobody cares.
1114
01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:50,999
- You've got to
give this up, mate,
1115
01:03:51,034 --> 01:03:54,037
this endless obsession
with this work of art,
1116
01:03:54,071 --> 01:03:57,005
'cause it means
fuck all to nobody.
1117
01:04:03,632 --> 01:04:06,118
- That was the only part
of the plan left, then,
1118
01:04:06,152 --> 01:04:09,776
that was the last
bastion of hope.
1119
01:04:48,194 --> 01:04:50,576
It's been a very
emotional journey,
1120
01:04:50,610 --> 01:04:53,890
it's been an 11 year
project, but you've got
1121
01:04:53,924 --> 01:04:55,892
to know when to get out.
1122
01:04:58,377 --> 01:05:00,966
It's time to, you know, move on.
1123
01:05:09,250 --> 01:05:10,665
- Well, suddenly
he's just over it,
1124
01:05:10,699 --> 01:05:11,977
and he sees the light.
1125
01:05:19,087 --> 01:05:22,297
- Andy never thinks
like any other person,
1126
01:05:22,332 --> 01:05:26,232
he's really willing to
put himself out there.
1127
01:05:26,267 --> 01:05:27,578
- Well, this morning,
chaps, I'm going
1128
01:05:27,613 --> 01:05:30,547
to show you the next level,
1129
01:05:30,581 --> 01:05:34,171
this is the end game, we have
to get this fucking right.
1130
01:05:34,206 --> 01:05:36,346
An artist thinks
outside the box,
1131
01:05:36,380 --> 01:05:39,625
I threw the box away, I didn't
even know the box were there.
1132
01:05:39,659 --> 01:05:44,285
On the day you will get
messages via our secret system,
1133
01:05:44,319 --> 01:05:46,494
all it will you tell
you is time and place,
1134
01:05:46,528 --> 01:05:48,841
it will give you
coordinates and times.
1135
01:05:48,875 --> 01:05:53,156
What is the one thing Banksy
would not expect me to do?
1136
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:56,262
We will load it onto the
back of a flatbed truck,
1137
01:05:56,297 --> 01:05:57,919
which, Matthew, you
will be in charge of,
1138
01:05:57,954 --> 01:06:01,681
Mr. Ratatata, your job is
to get it on and bolt it,
1139
01:06:01,716 --> 01:06:04,339
we will take a route to
exactly where we stole it,
1140
01:06:04,374 --> 01:06:07,411
acquired it from,
acquired it, right.
1141
01:06:08,723 --> 01:06:12,451
We're going to return
it to its original spot.
1142
01:06:12,485 --> 01:06:15,212
Right, come on, come on
with that fucking ladder,
1143
01:06:15,247 --> 01:06:17,594
useless maggot,
look at me, come on.
1144
01:06:17,628 --> 01:06:19,251
- All right, five seconds up.
1145
01:06:19,285 --> 01:06:21,322
- We have to make it
look like it were a slick move
1146
01:06:21,356 --> 01:06:23,186
and we have to be all a flow.
1147
01:06:23,220 --> 01:06:25,222
Come on, come on,
come on, let's fast,
1148
01:06:25,257 --> 01:06:27,052
move, move, move,
move, move, come on,
1149
01:06:27,086 --> 01:06:30,469
eleven seconds rounding,
nice one, position.
1150
01:06:30,503 --> 01:06:33,023
Get it in, get it up,
and get the fuck out.
1151
01:06:33,058 --> 01:06:36,544
Up, up, and then 20
seconds out, I see.
1152
01:06:36,578 --> 01:06:38,960
I've got, I've got the
cone, you find the hole.
1153
01:06:38,995 --> 01:06:40,582
- That was 40 seconds, we need
1154
01:06:40,617 --> 01:06:43,792
to shave another 10 seconds
off it, start again.
1155
01:06:43,827 --> 01:06:47,037
- This is my only chance,
I've got to make this work.
1156
01:06:47,072 --> 01:06:49,384
Now, due to the
political climate,
1157
01:06:49,419 --> 01:06:52,732
it's going to make it
hotter than fucking hell.
1158
01:06:52,767 --> 01:06:55,321
- Why don't we go
dressed as Santa Claus
1159
01:06:55,356 --> 01:06:59,291
and his little helpers, tinsel
doesn't attract terrorists.
1160
01:07:10,681 --> 01:07:14,858
- A one, two,
three, lift, lift, come on.
1161
01:07:14,892 --> 01:07:17,999
- Fucking hell,
must I do it on me own?
1162
01:07:18,034 --> 01:07:20,105
- Don't wreck the corner.
1163
01:07:23,694 --> 01:07:26,594
- I was the get-there driver.
1164
01:07:26,628 --> 01:07:28,354
Easy, tiger.
1165
01:07:28,389 --> 01:07:32,876
We practiced putting the thing
on and off the lorry once,
1166
01:07:32,910 --> 01:07:33,911
and now two.
1167
01:07:35,913 --> 01:07:37,467
- Fucking.
1168
01:07:37,501 --> 01:07:38,744
- We don't
bother tying it down,
1169
01:07:38,778 --> 01:07:39,986
'cause that'll do.
1170
01:07:42,127 --> 01:07:43,990
And then hey-ho, off we go.
1171
01:07:55,795 --> 01:07:58,660
The artist AK was,
how can I put this,
1172
01:07:58,695 --> 01:08:00,662
stressed to the max.
1173
01:08:00,697 --> 01:08:02,181
- I want to try
not to get stressed
1174
01:08:02,216 --> 01:08:04,390
and shout at you both, but
I'm just down to the wire,
1175
01:08:04,425 --> 01:08:07,738
well, it is for me,
, Matthew.
1176
01:08:07,773 --> 01:08:09,361
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1177
01:08:10,534 --> 01:08:12,467
- Please don't snarl
back at me, just--
1178
01:08:12,502 --> 01:08:13,296
- Fuck off.
1179
01:08:13,330 --> 01:08:14,124
- Yeah, you know.
1180
01:08:15,781 --> 01:08:17,783
Yeah, no, 'cause you know,
you know what I'm like,
1181
01:08:17,817 --> 01:08:19,025
Matt, you know I get
stressed and stuff, so.
1182
01:08:19,060 --> 01:08:20,475
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1183
01:08:20,510 --> 01:08:22,408
- We know you've thrown
a dolly at a pram, mate.
1184
01:08:22,443 --> 01:08:24,790
- I just get, the pressure
fucking gets to me
1185
01:08:24,824 --> 01:08:26,412
when it's somethin' like this.
1186
01:08:35,387 --> 01:08:37,320
We're gonna take, we're
gonna go straight down it,
1187
01:08:37,354 --> 01:08:39,356
we're gonna, Essex road.
1188
01:08:39,391 --> 01:08:41,876
And I was stressed, man,
I was very stressed.
1189
01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:43,567
Are you still with it?
1190
01:08:43,602 --> 01:08:45,466
It were all on me,
when it came on top,
1191
01:08:45,500 --> 01:08:47,123
I were the fucking front man.
1192
01:08:47,157 --> 01:08:49,332
- Who got me
fucking radios?
1193
01:08:49,366 --> 01:08:52,266
- I had to get this right,
this was the one thing
1194
01:08:52,300 --> 01:08:54,337
that I had to do right.
1195
01:08:54,371 --> 01:08:58,548
♪ We're on the
march with AK's army ♪
1196
01:08:59,721 --> 01:09:03,000
♪ We're off to dump a
Banksy on the street ♪
1197
01:09:03,035 --> 01:09:04,588
♪ And we'll really
shake him up ♪
1198
01:09:04,623 --> 01:09:08,972
♪ 'Cause we do not give a fuck
1199
01:09:09,006 --> 01:09:11,837
♪ 'Cause AK's going to
give the world a treat ♪
1200
01:09:14,909 --> 01:09:19,085
♪ We're on the march
with Banksy's army ♪
1201
01:09:19,983 --> 01:09:22,261
That is lovely, lots of people.
1202
01:09:22,296 --> 01:09:26,645
There you go, have a look
at a Banksy, it's a Banksy!
1203
01:09:34,998 --> 01:09:37,966
Oh, fucking hell,
fucking hell, Matt.
1204
01:09:38,001 --> 01:09:41,107
We pulled up beside a road,
knocked a big fucking sign over,
1205
01:09:41,142 --> 01:09:43,524
with Art Qaeda, nothing
is a simple journey.
1206
01:09:51,601 --> 01:09:55,950
- The back
of the gallery faces
Shaftesbury Avenue.
1207
01:09:55,984 --> 01:09:58,366
- We are now proceeding
to base camp,
1208
01:09:58,401 --> 01:10:02,301
it's a go, go, go, go,
go, we're on his way.
1209
01:10:04,269 --> 01:10:07,237
- We're on his way,
we're on our way.
1210
01:10:07,272 --> 01:10:09,239
- We noticed a truck
coming down the road
1211
01:10:09,274 --> 01:10:11,517
with a statue on it
that looked familiar.
1212
01:10:11,552 --> 01:10:13,416
- We're here, we
need that car moving now,
1213
01:10:13,450 --> 01:10:14,624
move that car!
1214
01:10:16,073 --> 01:10:19,215
- We watched these workers
dressed as Santa elves,
1215
01:10:19,249 --> 01:10:20,354
they all worked very quickly,
1216
01:10:20,388 --> 01:10:22,459
with military
precision, actually.
1217
01:10:22,494 --> 01:10:24,841
- Jump out, jump out,
jump out, will you.
1218
01:10:40,339 --> 01:10:42,099
- We've got it,
1219
01:10:43,756 --> 01:10:44,999
up and over.
1220
01:11:00,704 --> 01:11:02,672
- Me 'motions were
all over the place,
1221
01:11:02,706 --> 01:11:04,398
is this the end, is
this the beginning,
1222
01:11:04,432 --> 01:11:06,020
what is it, I didn't know.
1223
01:11:06,054 --> 01:11:07,090
- Oh, but we've got
to get it straight,
1224
01:11:07,124 --> 01:11:08,850
okay, let's get him straight.
1225
01:11:18,101 --> 01:11:20,414
- I told you to fuck away.
1226
01:11:20,448 --> 01:11:21,242
Up.
1227
01:11:21,277 --> 01:11:22,381
- Okay.
1228
01:11:22,416 --> 01:11:25,522
- Up, up,
come on, come on, up.
1229
01:11:42,539 --> 01:11:45,093
- Okay, get off the back there.
1230
01:12:03,767 --> 01:12:05,528
- As soon as I put
the statue there,
1231
01:12:05,562 --> 01:12:10,705
it was like, ,
yes, thank fuck.
1232
01:12:10,740 --> 01:12:12,535
Nobody's ever stolen a Banksy,
1233
01:12:12,569 --> 01:12:16,642
then given it back.
1234
01:12:16,677 --> 01:12:18,748
- You took it, it got
nicked, you made it again,
1235
01:12:18,782 --> 01:12:21,613
you took it back, yeah,
it's kind of cool,
1236
01:12:21,647 --> 01:12:24,409
and then the statue's where
it was in the first place.
1237
01:12:24,443 --> 01:12:26,100
- There's more.
1238
01:12:26,134 --> 01:12:27,273
- There's always more.
1239
01:12:27,308 --> 01:12:29,793
- This is the
Banksy, The Drinker,
1240
01:12:30,794 --> 01:12:33,141
now this is AK-47's version.
1241
01:12:34,315 --> 01:12:35,799
What I thought I'd
do is, I thought,
1242
01:12:35,834 --> 01:12:39,251
I'd give it back, but
give it back with a twist.
1243
01:12:39,285 --> 01:12:40,977
- Up, up.
1244
01:12:41,011 --> 01:12:41,805
- Up.
1245
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,359
- Up.
1246
01:12:43,393 --> 01:12:46,016
- From The Thinker to
The Drinker to The Stinker.
1247
01:12:56,820 --> 01:13:00,928
- From The Thinker to The
Drinker to The Stinker,
1248
01:13:00,962 --> 01:13:04,449
I despair.
1249
01:13:08,591 --> 01:13:12,767
- What do I think of AK-47's
sticking a toilet seat
1250
01:13:14,217 --> 01:13:18,290
to The Thinker, I mean, yes,
his ethos is taking the piss,
1251
01:13:18,324 --> 01:13:22,398
but I think you're
really taking the piss.
1252
01:13:36,273 --> 01:13:39,829
- I was very emotional,
I could have cried.
1253
01:13:39,863 --> 01:13:43,522
It's not about Banksy, now
it's about my work and me,
1254
01:13:43,557 --> 01:13:44,765
and what I've done.
1255
01:13:44,799 --> 01:13:46,732
Merry Christmas.
1256
01:14:01,609 --> 01:14:05,820
Come on, now, let's get
out of here, see you later!
1257
01:14:15,347 --> 01:14:17,625
- He wanted to make a statement
1258
01:14:17,660 --> 01:14:21,836
that was large enough and had
physical impact, and he did.
1259
01:14:29,361 --> 01:14:31,984
- The Stinker has
value to the thousands
1260
01:14:32,019 --> 01:14:35,194
of people who see it every day,
1261
01:14:35,229 --> 01:14:38,128
and they have no idea
of the story behind it.
1262
01:14:44,514 --> 01:14:48,380
- Andy's a great entertainer,
and he's an original.
1263
01:14:48,414 --> 01:14:51,141
Perhaps one day, you know,
Banksy will get over his sense
1264
01:14:51,176 --> 01:14:54,144
of humor failure and,
and maybe applaud him.
1265
01:15:08,573 --> 01:15:11,230
- We noticed that
someone had taken an ax,
1266
01:15:11,265 --> 01:15:15,096
put it over the
handle of the cistern.
1267
01:15:15,131 --> 01:15:16,995
We've heard some
rumors on the street
1268
01:15:17,029 --> 01:15:21,275
that the ax might have been
burying of the hatchet.
1269
01:15:21,309 --> 01:15:22,725
- Well, that's a
lovely thought to think
1270
01:15:22,759 --> 01:15:26,660
that the hatchet were
buried, the war is over,
1271
01:15:26,694 --> 01:15:31,596
I'm calling a truce,
fait accompli.
101354
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