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In the criminal justice system,
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sexually-based offenses
are considered especially heinous.
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In New York City,
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the dedicated detectives who investigate
these vicious felonies are members
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of an elite squad known
as The Special Victims Unit.
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These are their stories.
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What the hell is going on in there?
Oh, jeez!
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Let's get out of here!
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Wait!
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You all right?
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Help me, help me!
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Did those boys hurt you?
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They raped me!
Help me.
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Help.
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Jamie, my name is Olivia.
I'm a police officer.
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I'm here to help you.
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Take a breath, calm down.
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Nobody is gonna hurt you anymore.
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Okay, Jamie, do you recognize
the boys that did this to you?
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Okay, I need you
to tell me their names. / No.
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Listen, Jamie, don't be scared.
I know this is hard, okay?
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But I promise you I'm gonna
help you get through this.
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What are their names?
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- Danny and Cameron.
- Okay.
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Thou hast hit it.
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Come sit on me.
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Asses are made to bear
and so are you.
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Women are made to bear,
and so are you.
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Danny Morrison, Cameron Shaw.
Come with us, please.
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Can it wait till after rehearsal?
We open next week.
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Show's over.
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Is something wrong?
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We heard the reviews
for your last performance.
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In the boys' room.
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ORIGINAL AIR DATE ON NBC: 2006/05/16
DVDrip Sync by JEREMY 2009
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I gave her valium
to calm her down.
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Anything on the exam?
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Vaginal trauma,
scratches to the breast and torso.
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- And copious fluids.
- Consistent with multiple assailants.
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- Are the parents here?
- Flying back from Prague.
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Dad's an executive
with the Philharmonic.
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Mom's a cellist.
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That's a hell of a thing
to come home to.
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I was heading into the bathroom
to change for play practice.
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And I saw Danny and Cameron in the hall.
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Okay, did you know these guys?
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During the show,
we've hung out a couple times.
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So then what happened?
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Just as I was heading
into the bathroom...
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I felt someone
grab me from behind.
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It was Danny and Cameron.
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First I thought they were
joking around, but...
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they wouldn't let go.
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And they dragged me
into the boys' bathroom.
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We were just having some fun.
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You call that having fun, huh?
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Everyone's doing it.
It's no big deal.
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It is to Jamie.
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No way.
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Hooking up in school's a rush.
She was into it.
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They pushed me into a stall.
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They pulled me down.
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And they pinned my back to the floor.
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Did you scream for help?
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I couldn't breathe.
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They were both on top of me.
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I felt like I was drowning.
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It's not like anyone got hurt.
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It's just for laughs.
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Was Jamie laughing while you
and cameron were raping her?
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Jamie said we raped her?
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- She's in the hospital right now.
- Get out.
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Me, Danny, and Jamie,
we're all friends.
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You got a funny way of showing it.
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They pulled up my skirt.
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And they...
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started taking turns.
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- I was begging them to stop.
- But they wouldn't.
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They just kept laughing, like,
like it was a game.
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We scored five points each.
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What kind of scoring system is that?
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You get one point for oral,
two for intercourse, three for group.
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The more public the hookup,
the more points.
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So you're saying
she asked to be raped.
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Jamie came to us for the three-way!
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She set the time and the place.
You gotta believe me.
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Janitor said you guys jammed out of there
like your asses were on fire.
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We didn't wanna get busted.
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A couple of kids got nailed
for hooking up in the library.
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So we took off.
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I figured Jamie was right behind us.
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Well, she stayed
in that stall, Danny.
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Half naked, crying.
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Now, why would she do that
if this was all fun and games?
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I don't know.
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But Cameron and I didn't rape her.
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Jamie was with us
because she wanted to be.
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- Take off your clothes.
- Why?
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Because you're wearing evidence.
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Put these on.
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- How's Jamie Hoskins?
- Sedated.
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The physical exam supports her story.
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You talk to the boys?
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The boys say the same thing.
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Sex was Jamie's idea,
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she told them when and where to meet her.
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They had time to coordinate
their stories.
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Yeah, but, uh, neither of them knew
about the rape accusation
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- until we put them in separate rooms.
- Or they pretended not to.
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The trauma's real, captain.
I don't think she's lying.
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- Well, somebody is.
- Captain, this is Cameron Shaw's father.
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Is my boy under arrest?
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Not yet.
We're still investigating.
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Well, a detective Tutuola said, uh,
a girl accused Cameron of rape.
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No, that's not possible.
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- I mean, he's a good kid, he...
- We have a victim who claims
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that your son forced himself upon her
in the school bathroom.
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Look, I work two jobs
to send him to that school.
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He's got a scholarship to Cornell.
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He's the first in our family
to go to college.
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This could ruin Cameron's life.
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You can see your son now, Mr. Shaw.
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Dad.
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Let's make damn sure what happened
before we put these boys in the system.
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LANCHESTER PREPARATORY
318 EAST 82ND STREET
MONDAY, MARCH 13
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Danny Morrison and Cameron Shaw
are both smart, motivated students.
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Boys made it sound like
it was some kind of game.
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Disturbing, but true.
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And we've caught kids
in the auditorium,
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even in the cafeteria kitchen.
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And it's not just the kids.
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Two grade school teachers in Pennsylvania
were caught having sex in a classroom
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while another teacher guarded the door.
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Yeah, we get reports every week
that a teacher's having sex with a student.
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It's a different world.
Kids are starting younger, going further.
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The parents have no idea
what's happening.
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Our senior film class made a documentary
called the new hookup.
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It's quite an eye-opener.
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When I hook up with a guy,
we'll do everything.
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I can't get into
the whole dating thing, though.
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I can't believe they're
admitting to stuff on camera.
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Trust me, it's no different from
what I hear in the halls every day.
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There's more.
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When I'm with a girl, we usually just
mess around and then play Xbox.
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Yeah. It's a great way to
get a bunch of people together.
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Makes it easy to hook up three-ways
and group while you're waiting to play.
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It's totally casual.
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Why go through all the drama
of dating and breaking up
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when you can just
get off and then hang out? / Yes!
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Jamie and her best friend
are up next.
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Having sex just
'cause everyone else is?
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It's pretty gross.
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I think everyone's just
really scared of getting hurt.
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They'll hook up with a complete stranger,
just a casual friend,
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instead of someone
they really care about.
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But... I think it's worth
waiting for love.
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That does not sound like a girl who's
looking for a three-way in the boys' room.
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- What's Jamie's friend's name?
- Lesley Sweeny.
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She's probably working
in the school bookstore.
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I really don't wanna talk about it.
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You weren't too shy to talk on that
documentary your classmates made.
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But that was different.
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These are my friends.
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And I don't wanna get them
into any trouble.
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Well, Leslie,
they're already in trouble.
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Listen, Jamie says
that she was raped.
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Cameron and Danny say that she
wanted to have sex with them.
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Now, we just need
to find out the truth.
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And Dr. Collins says
Jamie's your best friend.
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Now, you wanna help her out,
just tell us what you know.
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Yesterday, in homeroom...
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Jamie told me she decided
to lose her virginity.
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- Did she fall in love with someone?
- Yeah.
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- Was it Danny or Cameron?
- No.
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It was this other guy in our class.
Trevor Olsen.
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She wanted him to be her first.
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- But he wasn't interested?
- No. He totally is.
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It's just that he has this policy.
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What policy?
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I don't do virgins.
It's nothing personal,
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I just don't want the responsibility
of planting the first flag, you know?
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- Oh, how noble.
- Ah, it's self-preservation.
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I hooked up with this girl freshman year.
She was a virgin.
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She thought we were gonna
get married or something. Never again.
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Is that why you wouldn't, uh...
hook up with Jamie Hoskins?
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Jamie's cool.
Really hot.
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I totally wanted to hit that.
But rules are rules.
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So is that what you told Jamie?
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Yeah, I said I was really into her,
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but I couldn't get with her
till she knocked it out a few times.
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What'd she say to that?
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She said, "Cool.
See you Saturday night."
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So she solicited two of her classmates
so a third boy would have sex with her?
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It looks that way.
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When I was a kid, girls who had sex
were afraid of being called sluts.
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Now they're auditioning for the title.
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The question is whether a rape
was committed in that bathroom.
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Jamie was looking
to lose her virginity.
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But it doesn't mean she didn't say no
at some point during the encounter.
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Feels like buyer's remorse to me.
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Look, I saw her.
The girl had PTSD.
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You can't fake that kind of trauma.
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She got caught doing it
with two guys in the john.
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That's enough to traumatize anybody.
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So let's bring them back in
and re-interview them all.
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We don't have to.
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Security camera in the principal's office
has a clear view of the bathroom.
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TARU's enhancing the tape.
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Well, a video will tell us who's lying.
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TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
RESPONSE UNIT
TUESDAY, MARCH 14
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Okay, so the janitor said he entered
the bathroom around 3:30.
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Start the tape at 3:15.
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Here's the view from
the principal's office.
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Zooming in, zooming in.
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Focus.
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There's Jamie.
I'll go back.
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Just waiting around.
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Hanging out in front
of the boys' bathroom.
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Here come Danny and Cameron.
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You gonna tell me she's
not flirting with them?
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That doesn't mean that
she asked to be raped.
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She just grabbed his hand. Hold on.
238
00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,277
What do you call that?
239
00:10:45,277 --> 00:10:47,937
Leading them on.
240
00:10:49,422 --> 00:10:52,227
Jamie, you said that you were
heading to the girls' bathroom.
241
00:10:52,227 --> 00:10:54,646
Well, someone told me it was out of order,
so I went to the boys' bathroom.
242
00:10:54,646 --> 00:10:56,930
That's not what you said before.
243
00:10:56,930 --> 00:10:59,553
I was freaked out, okay?
I just got raped.
244
00:10:59,553 --> 00:11:03,019
You were flirting with Cameron
and Danny. / I wasn't flirting.
245
00:11:03,019 --> 00:11:06,515
Danny said something funny.
I laughed. He's my friend.
246
00:11:06,515 --> 00:11:08,009
At least, I thought we were friends.
247
00:11:08,009 --> 00:11:10,588
Jamie, you said they dragged you
into the bathroom.
248
00:11:10,588 --> 00:11:14,166
Now, you could see clearly from the tape
that you walked in there on your own.
249
00:11:14,166 --> 00:11:16,879
Look, I asked them to guard me
while I peed, okay?
250
00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:18,355
I don't...
what's the big deal?
251
00:11:18,355 --> 00:11:21,179
- The big deal is that you lied to me.
- They raped me!
252
00:11:21,179 --> 00:11:23,117
They forced me
to have sex with them!
253
00:11:23,117 --> 00:11:25,804
Why don't you believe me?
254
00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,722
I want to, Jamie.
I really do.
255
00:11:27,722 --> 00:11:29,251
But you're making it very difficult.
256
00:11:29,251 --> 00:11:32,548
Look, I don't care what you think, okay?
I know what happened.
257
00:11:32,548 --> 00:11:34,604
You're trying to turn this
around and make it my fault?
258
00:11:34,604 --> 00:11:38,292
Well, screw you, okay?
I didn't do anything wrong!
259
00:11:38,663 --> 00:11:40,681
What's the deal with this girl?
260
00:11:40,681 --> 00:11:42,549
- She seems agitated.
- Could she be on drugs?
261
00:11:42,549 --> 00:11:45,294
No, her tox screen came up
negative at the ER.
262
00:11:45,294 --> 00:11:47,595
- Is this post-traumatic stress?
- I don't think so.
263
00:11:47,595 --> 00:11:50,632
Defensiveness and hostility
are not associated with PTSD.
264
00:11:50,632 --> 00:11:52,874
Okay, so then what's going on?
265
00:11:52,874 --> 00:11:56,147
She's caught in a lie, and she's terrified
of the consequences.
266
00:11:56,147 --> 00:11:59,306
Well, we have no proof that she lied
about the actual rape itself.
267
00:11:59,306 --> 00:12:01,265
I think we do.
268
00:12:01,265 --> 00:12:03,349
I processed the rape kit.
269
00:12:03,349 --> 00:12:07,474
Danny and Cameron's DNA match
the sample taken from Jamie Hoskins.
270
00:12:07,474 --> 00:12:10,141
Then I tested the clothes
from all three kids.
271
00:12:10,141 --> 00:12:14,497
The school janitor had just waxed
the bathroom floor prior to the incident.
272
00:12:14,497 --> 00:12:17,840
Danny and Cameron's shirts
had wax residue on the back.
273
00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,567
But Jamie Hoskins' blouse didn't.
274
00:12:19,567 --> 00:12:21,829
So Jamie said that the boys
pinned her down on her back
275
00:12:21,829 --> 00:12:23,477
and then took turns on top of her.
276
00:12:23,477 --> 00:12:26,883
That can't be true.
Jamie Hoskins had to be on top. She lied.
277
00:12:26,883 --> 00:12:28,677
What are you gonna do?
278
00:12:28,677 --> 00:12:31,826
Well, the physical trauma and the rape kit
evidence are enough to go to trial.
279
00:12:31,826 --> 00:12:32,650
Wait a minute, Wait a minute,
280
00:12:32,650 --> 00:12:35,634
you're gonna charge Danny and Cameron
when her story's full of holes?
281
00:12:35,634 --> 00:12:38,752
If Jamie sticks to her story,
I still have to prosecute those boys.
282
00:12:38,752 --> 00:12:42,255
Casey, isn't there any way
that we can keep this out of court?
283
00:12:42,255 --> 00:12:45,997
Yeah. Get Jamie to recant.
284
00:12:49,168 --> 00:12:50,179
It's cold in here.
285
00:12:50,179 --> 00:12:52,364
Okay, I'll get them
to turn up the heat.
286
00:12:53,943 --> 00:12:56,060
There we go.
287
00:12:56,855 --> 00:12:59,416
Here, put this on.
288
00:12:59,416 --> 00:13:01,550
What do you want now?
289
00:13:01,550 --> 00:13:05,176
I wanted to apologize
for upsetting you before.
290
00:13:05,176 --> 00:13:07,402
Does that mean you believe me?
291
00:13:07,402 --> 00:13:11,767
It means I believe that you never meant
for any of this to happen.
292
00:13:17,887 --> 00:13:21,724
Jamie, we talked to Trevor Olsen.
293
00:13:21,724 --> 00:13:23,200
He doesn't have
anything to do with this.
294
00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,302
Oh, I think he does.
295
00:13:24,302 --> 00:13:25,644
Trevor is my friend.
296
00:13:25,644 --> 00:13:29,344
I know that you like Trevor,
but I gotta tell you, I think his...
297
00:13:29,344 --> 00:13:31,177
priorities are really screwed up.
298
00:13:31,177 --> 00:13:32,667
- How would you know?
- Trust me...
299
00:13:32,667 --> 00:13:35,110
any guy that won't date you
until you lose your virginity
300
00:13:35,110 --> 00:13:37,837
doesn't deserve somebody
as great as you.
301
00:13:37,837 --> 00:13:38,852
You don't get it.
302
00:13:38,852 --> 00:13:42,437
I get that you're a smart, beautiful girl
who was waiting to fall in love.
303
00:13:42,437 --> 00:13:46,584
And then finally,
when you meet the right guy,
304
00:13:47,226 --> 00:13:49,561
he lets you down.
305
00:13:57,586 --> 00:13:59,769
I just wanted him to like me.
306
00:13:59,769 --> 00:14:01,944
I know.
307
00:14:03,169 --> 00:14:05,783
I mean, when...
everyone is doing it,
308
00:14:05,783 --> 00:14:09,219
and it's all anyone
is ever talking about sex.
309
00:14:09,219 --> 00:14:10,301
It's a lot of pressure.
310
00:14:10,301 --> 00:14:15,680
And sometimes that pressure
can lead us to make choices that...
311
00:14:16,164 --> 00:14:19,744
that we wish we hadn't made.
312
00:14:24,038 --> 00:14:28,903
Jamie, did you ask Cameron and Danny
to meet you in the bathroom?
313
00:14:34,505 --> 00:14:35,989
Yes.
��
314
00:14:37,270 --> 00:14:41,372
And did they force you
to have sex with them?
315
00:14:42,795 --> 00:14:46,060
No.
It was all me. It was...
316
00:14:46,060 --> 00:14:48,266
it was all my fault.
317
00:14:48,754 --> 00:14:50,590
I'm sorry.
318
00:14:50,590 --> 00:14:53,723
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
319
00:14:55,948 --> 00:14:57,972
Am I gonna go to jail?
320
00:14:57,972 --> 00:15:00,990
You're gonna go home
tonight and...
321
00:15:00,990 --> 00:15:04,506
I'll talk to the DA in the morning.
322
00:15:04,506 --> 00:15:07,138
I never meant to hurt anyone.
323
00:15:07,970 --> 00:15:10,222
I know.
324
00:15:12,007 --> 00:15:13,333
You sent her home?
325
00:15:13,333 --> 00:15:14,935
That girl tried
to ruin my son's life.
326
00:15:14,935 --> 00:15:17,766
I understand how you must feel,
Mr. Shaw. / I doubt it.
327
00:15:17,766 --> 00:15:19,595
They're throwing Cameron out of school.
328
00:15:19,595 --> 00:15:22,386
He graduates in five weeks.
He could lose his scholarship.
329
00:15:22,386 --> 00:15:25,119
Your son violated Lanchester
prep's code of conduct
330
00:15:25,119 --> 00:15:26,705
by having sex on school grounds.
331
00:15:26,705 --> 00:15:28,934
Cameron was never in trouble
a day in his life.
332
00:15:28,934 --> 00:15:31,424
It's that damn girl!
She seduced him!
333
00:15:31,424 --> 00:15:34,479
Nobody forced Cameron
into that bathroom.
334
00:15:34,479 --> 00:15:36,825
That girl made false charges
against my son.
335
00:15:36,825 --> 00:15:39,209
That's a crime.
I want her charged.
336
00:15:39,209 --> 00:15:41,280
I'll decide that
after I review the evidence.
337
00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,896
We bent over backwards to get the facts
before we arrested your son.
338
00:15:44,896 --> 00:15:48,635
Jamie Hoskins deserves
the same consideration.
339
00:15:48,635 --> 00:15:49,937
Fine.
340
00:15:49,937 --> 00:15:53,709
But if she's not arrested,
you'll read about it in the newspaper.
341
00:15:53,709 --> 00:15:56,877
White girl lies about
being raped by a black boy...
342
00:15:56,877 --> 00:15:59,451
and just walks away.
343
00:15:59,879 --> 00:16:02,266
They'll be all over it.
344
00:16:06,430 --> 00:16:09,497
Well, I guess we know where he stands.
345
00:16:10,199 --> 00:16:11,303
How about you?
346
00:16:11,303 --> 00:16:12,652
He has a point.
347
00:16:12,652 --> 00:16:14,991
Jamie did file a false
report with the police.
348
00:16:14,991 --> 00:16:17,318
Jamie made a mistake,
but she's paying for it.
349
00:16:17,318 --> 00:16:18,816
I mean, she also got
kicked out of school.
350
00:16:18,816 --> 00:16:21,028
Cameron's dad isn't gonna
go away anytime soon,
351
00:16:21,028 --> 00:16:23,271
and Danny Morrison's lawyer
is on my voicemail.
352
00:16:23,271 --> 00:16:25,021
Those boys got themselves expelled.
353
00:16:25,021 --> 00:16:27,660
And as for Jamie,
she lied to us.
354
00:16:27,660 --> 00:16:30,345
It was our time she wasted.
355
00:16:30,345 --> 00:16:31,961
Benson.
356
00:16:33,918 --> 00:16:35,476
Where?
357
00:16:36,585 --> 00:16:38,896
I'm on my way.
358
00:16:50,691 --> 00:16:53,501
Car drove onto the sidewalk,
straight into a bunch of pedestrians.
359
00:16:53,501 --> 00:16:55,991
- How many are injured?
- Nine, one critical.
360
00:16:55,991 --> 00:16:57,566
Driver's over there.
361
00:17:11,473 --> 00:17:13,663
Excuse me.
Jamie?
362
00:17:13,663 --> 00:17:15,881
It's detective Benson.
Can you tell me what happened?
363
00:17:15,881 --> 00:17:18,194
They're trying to kill me.
They're all trying to kill me.
364
00:17:18,194 --> 00:17:19,797
- Nobody's trying to kill you.
- You're lying to me!
365
00:17:19,797 --> 00:17:21,650
- They're all trying to kill me!
- Calm down.
366
00:17:21,650 --> 00:17:24,353
- No, no, please, please!
- Calm down, Jamie.
367
00:17:24,353 --> 00:17:28,252
You have to help me!
Please! Please!
368
00:17:29,396 --> 00:17:31,198
Detective.
369
00:17:33,771 --> 00:17:37,919
The vehicle's trajectory indicates
she swerved to avoid the pedestrians.
370
00:17:37,919 --> 00:17:39,870
- So it was an accident.
- Not exactly.
371
00:17:39,870 --> 00:17:43,324
There are no skid marks
on the street or the sidewalk.
372
00:17:43,324 --> 00:17:47,593
She never hit the brakes
and she wasn't wearing her seatbelt.
373
00:17:47,593 --> 00:17:49,922
She was trying to kill herself.
374
00:17:54,027 --> 00:17:57,724
Skull fracture here.
Put him in trauma two and page neuro.
375
00:17:57,724 --> 00:17:59,172
Busy week for Jamie Hoskins.
376
00:17:59,172 --> 00:18:00,117
How's she doing?
377
00:18:00,117 --> 00:18:02,805
Laceration on her forehead,
minor cuts and bruises.
378
00:18:02,805 --> 00:18:04,392
Her victims weren't so lucky.
379
00:18:04,392 --> 00:18:07,461
Fractured limbs, two concussions,
a crushed pelvis,
380
00:18:07,461 --> 00:18:11,002
and one 14-year-old girl
with massive internal injuries.
381
00:18:11,002 --> 00:18:13,219
One tire of the car rolled over her chest.
382
00:18:13,219 --> 00:18:15,298
She died five minutes ago.
383
00:18:15,298 --> 00:18:18,185
Dad's over there. Mr. Ramirez.
384
00:18:21,941 --> 00:18:25,491
Mr. Ramirez, I'm detective Benson.
385
00:18:25,491 --> 00:18:27,774
I'm so sorry for your loss.
386
00:18:27,774 --> 00:18:31,259
Did they catch the guy
who did this to Elena?
387
00:18:31,818 --> 00:18:35,530
Yes, we have the driver in custody.
388
00:18:36,451 --> 00:18:38,915
Was he drinking?
389
00:18:40,658 --> 00:18:43,498
The driver was a teenage girl.
390
00:18:43,498 --> 00:18:48,693
And, uh, no, we don't believe that
she was intoxicated.
391
00:19:01,723 --> 00:19:05,890
Detective, we ran a comprehensive
tox screen on Jamie Hoskins.
392
00:19:05,890 --> 00:19:08,792
- SOP for attempted suicides.
- Did she have drugs in her system?
393
00:19:08,792 --> 00:19:13,356
Only valproate and celexa,
which are used to treat bipolar disorder.
394
00:19:13,356 --> 00:19:15,041
Jamie's bipolar?
395
00:19:15,041 --> 00:19:16,822
The school psychologist
didn't tell me that.
396
00:19:16,822 --> 00:19:18,747
There's a good chance
the school doesn't know.
397
00:19:18,747 --> 00:19:21,367
Jamie's probably being treated
by a private psychiatrist.
398
00:19:21,367 --> 00:19:24,336
Could those medications
have caused the accident? / I doubt it.
399
00:19:24,336 --> 00:19:26,943
Both drugs were present
well below therapeutic levels.
400
00:19:26,943 --> 00:19:29,189
So you're saying that Jamie
hadn't been taking her meds?
401
00:19:29,189 --> 00:19:30,873
Possibly for a week, maybe longer.
402
00:19:30,873 --> 00:19:35,549
Which likely led to a manic
episode and her suicide attempt.
403
00:19:37,048 --> 00:19:40,429
Could a manic episode lead her
to act out sexually?
404
00:19:40,429 --> 00:19:44,017
Hypersexuality is common
among unmedicated bipolars.
405
00:19:44,017 --> 00:19:45,400
Jamie's parents have been
out of the country.
406
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,347
Maybe she stopped taking
her meds when they left.
407
00:19:47,347 --> 00:19:48,558
You can ask them.
408
00:19:48,558 --> 00:19:52,413
They got back this morning.
Sitting over there in the corner.
409
00:19:55,455 --> 00:19:58,051
This just doesn't make any sense.
410
00:19:58,051 --> 00:20:01,468
I mean, Jamie always takes her medication,
ever since she was diagnosed last year.
411
00:20:01,468 --> 00:20:05,441
At the beginning, we counted her pills
to make sure that she was on schedule.
412
00:20:05,441 --> 00:20:08,702
But she's always been
diligent about taking them.
413
00:20:08,702 --> 00:20:10,390
Jamie said that you're both musicians.
414
00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:12,251
Do you travel often?
415
00:20:12,251 --> 00:20:14,508
We used to, but since Jamie's diagnosis,
416
00:20:14,508 --> 00:20:17,754
we make sure that one of us
is always at home with her.
417
00:20:17,754 --> 00:20:20,266
This is the first time
that we've both left her.
418
00:20:20,266 --> 00:20:21,721
So how did she seem before you left?
419
00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:24,363
Any odd behavior or mood swings?
420
00:20:24,363 --> 00:20:26,226
No, she was perfectly fine.
421
00:20:26,226 --> 00:20:30,309
Jamie has seen Dr. Porterman
every week without fail.
422
00:20:30,309 --> 00:20:33,073
She, she told us
everything was under control.
423
00:20:33,073 --> 00:20:35,624
I'd like to talk to Jamie.
424
00:20:35,624 --> 00:20:37,172
Are you going to arrest her?
425
00:20:37,172 --> 00:20:39,817
That's for the DA decide.
426
00:20:39,817 --> 00:20:42,207
The only thing I can tell you
is she might be more sympathetic
427
00:20:42,207 --> 00:20:45,003
if I get Jamie's side of the story.
428
00:20:45,406 --> 00:20:48,454
Why didn't you tell me
you were bipolar?
429
00:20:48,454 --> 00:20:50,734
I didn't want you
to think I was crazy.
430
00:20:50,734 --> 00:20:54,275
You're not crazy, Jamie.
You have an illness.
431
00:20:54,275 --> 00:20:59,711
Just like diabetes or migraine headaches,
you take medication...
432
00:20:59,711 --> 00:21:03,608
- and you get better.
- Yeah, but people treat you differently.
433
00:21:03,608 --> 00:21:05,744
I mean, like my grandma,
434
00:21:05,744 --> 00:21:09,527
I told her and now she looks
at me all funny.
435
00:21:09,527 --> 00:21:11,504
And this kid in my class,
he takes pills,
436
00:21:11,504 --> 00:21:14,026
and now everyone calls him psycho.
437
00:21:14,026 --> 00:21:16,580
Is that why you went off
your medication?
438
00:21:16,580 --> 00:21:21,199
I was feeling fine. I hadn't had
any mood swings in, like, a year.
439
00:21:21,199 --> 00:21:24,791
Did you ever stop to think
that maybe you were feeling fine
440
00:21:24,791 --> 00:21:28,288
because you were taking your medication?
441
00:21:28,288 --> 00:21:30,577
I thought I was cured.
442
00:21:32,038 --> 00:21:35,002
Jamie, didn't your
psychiatrist explain to you
443
00:21:35,002 --> 00:21:37,979
that it's really, really dangerous
to go off your medication?
444
00:21:37,979 --> 00:21:41,463
Yes, but Derek says that's not true.
445
00:21:41,463 --> 00:21:44,425
Derek who?
446
00:21:44,425 --> 00:21:45,765
Derek Lord.
447
00:21:45,765 --> 00:21:47,806
- The rock star?
- Yeah.
448
00:21:47,806 --> 00:21:48,948
He's amazing.
449
00:21:48,948 --> 00:21:50,639
I have all of his CDs,
450
00:21:50,639 --> 00:21:53,081
and I've been to his concert,
like, five times.
451
00:21:53,081 --> 00:21:54,227
Jamie, hold on. I'm sorry.
452
00:21:54,227 --> 00:21:58,742
What does Derek Lord
have to do with any of this?
453
00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:01,559
I was getting ready
for school last week,
454
00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:04,262
and he was being interviewed on TV.
455
00:22:04,262 --> 00:22:07,559
He says you don't need psychiatric drugs
to make you feel better.
456
00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:08,806
How would he know?
457
00:22:08,806 --> 00:22:10,405
He's really smart.
458
00:22:10,405 --> 00:22:14,062
He even has a book, "free yourself."
459
00:22:14,062 --> 00:22:18,759
He says that using psychiatric drugs
is like putting poison inside your body.
460
00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:22,060
And you decided to listen
to Derek Lord...
461
00:22:22,060 --> 00:22:24,150
instead of your psychiatrist?
462
00:22:24,150 --> 00:22:28,802
Yeah, I mean...
it's a really great book.
463
00:22:28,802 --> 00:22:31,471
Changed my life.
464
00:22:31,471 --> 00:22:35,349
A lot of my young fans have been diagnosed
with bogus psychiatric disorders, Jackie,
465
00:22:35,349 --> 00:22:37,118
and then put on dangerous drugs.
466
00:22:37,118 --> 00:22:40,132
Some reviewers, including a number
of doctors and scientists,
467
00:22:40,132 --> 00:22:43,607
have criticized your book
as inaccurate and misinformed.
468
00:22:43,607 --> 00:22:45,537
Trust me, I've done the research.
469
00:22:45,537 --> 00:22:47,933
Shrinks use dangerous,
mind-altering chemicals
470
00:22:47,933 --> 00:22:50,199
to control the brains of innocent people.
471
00:22:50,199 --> 00:22:52,603
Everyone should stop taking these poisons.
472
00:22:52,603 --> 00:22:55,412
There's lives at stake here.
473
00:22:55,912 --> 00:23:00,779
What makes a rock musician
think he's an expert on psychiatry?
474
00:23:00,779 --> 00:23:02,175
That's a good question.
475
00:23:02,175 --> 00:23:04,476
If I could, I'd charge
Derek Lord as a co-defendant.
476
00:23:04,476 --> 00:23:06,935
First Amendment says that he's
got a right to his opinion.
477
00:23:06,935 --> 00:23:08,341
This is one hell of a mess.
478
00:23:08,341 --> 00:23:09,866
Look, I screwed up.
479
00:23:09,866 --> 00:23:12,075
Jamie was upset.
I should have never let her go home.
480
00:23:12,075 --> 00:23:13,350
You had no reason to hold her,
481
00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:15,296
and you couldn't know she'd
steal your parent's car.
482
00:23:15,296 --> 00:23:18,486
She ran down those people
right after we released her.
483
00:23:18,486 --> 00:23:19,745
Makes us look negligent.
484
00:23:19,745 --> 00:23:21,126
The sooner we charge
this girl, the better.
485
00:23:21,126 --> 00:23:22,320
It's not that simple.
486
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,333
Jamie was having
an acute psychotic episode.
487
00:23:24,333 --> 00:23:30,045
Which she suffered after choosing
to stop taking her medication.
488
00:23:30,045 --> 00:23:32,155
We already have one dead girl.
489
00:23:32,155 --> 00:23:34,707
So who benefits from destroying
the life of another?
490
00:23:34,707 --> 00:23:37,295
She's got a point, captain.
491
00:23:37,295 --> 00:23:38,392
What are you suggesting?
492
00:23:38,392 --> 00:23:40,109
Probation with mandatory counseling.
493
00:23:40,109 --> 00:23:43,084
For vehicular manslaughter?
494
00:23:43,084 --> 00:23:46,880
I'm not gonna throw the book at this girl
just to satisfy your bosses downtown.
495
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,941
This wasn't some disturbed
homeless person.
496
00:23:48,941 --> 00:23:51,311
This girl had the best
drugs and treatment available.
497
00:23:51,311 --> 00:23:55,933
Yeah, which her idol
told her to stop taking.
498
00:23:56,817 --> 00:23:58,288
Okay.
499
00:23:58,723 --> 00:24:00,772
This is your call.
500
00:24:00,772 --> 00:24:02,396
You just remember we got two boys
501
00:24:02,396 --> 00:24:05,382
whose lives were ruined
by her false allegations.
502
00:24:05,382 --> 00:24:09,672
A dead girl and half a dozen others
injured when Jamie mowed them down.
503
00:24:09,672 --> 00:24:14,036
Now, you let her walk,
your ass is on the line right next to mine.
504
00:24:21,328 --> 00:24:26,147
Victim sustained multiple abrasions
and contusions from being dragged 30 feet.
505
00:24:26,147 --> 00:24:29,231
Internal injuries include
fractures to the ribs and spine,
506
00:24:29,231 --> 00:24:31,727
liver laceration,
and splenic rupture,
507
00:24:31,727 --> 00:24:37,698
and a skull fracture consistent
with medium velocity motor vehicle impact.
508
00:24:37,698 --> 00:24:40,393
Hey, what are you doing here?
509
00:24:40,393 --> 00:24:42,758
I needed to see the victim.
510
00:24:42,758 --> 00:24:46,550
Everything you need to know
will be in my report.
511
00:24:47,509 --> 00:24:48,838
God, she's so young.
512
00:24:48,838 --> 00:24:53,681
14. Just 2 years younger
than Jamie Hoskins.
513
00:24:53,681 --> 00:24:55,823
Did she suffer?
514
00:24:56,919 --> 00:25:01,138
She was trapped under the car
for more than 20 minutes.
515
00:25:01,138 --> 00:25:05,169
She was conscious most of the time.
516
00:25:08,793 --> 00:25:10,741
Casey...
517
00:25:11,515 --> 00:25:14,648
I thought if I saw her,
it might make it easier.
518
00:25:14,648 --> 00:25:17,037
Make what easier?
519
00:25:17,037 --> 00:25:21,290
Putting a mentally ill girl in prison.
520
00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:25,689
So did it help?
521
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:29,622
Send me that report.
522
00:25:31,489 --> 00:25:33,681
ARRAIGNMENT
PART 22
FRIDAY, MARCH 17
523
00:25:33,681 --> 00:25:36,675
Jamie Hoskins should be at home
where her parents can supervise her.
524
00:25:36,675 --> 00:25:38,310
We request an ROR release.
525
00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:39,539
The people object, your honor.
526
00:25:39,539 --> 00:25:40,932
My client is not a flight risk,
527
00:25:40,932 --> 00:25:44,604
and her illness requires
specialized treatment and monitoring.
528
00:25:44,604 --> 00:25:47,342
Ms. Novak. / The people will stipulate
to the defendant's release,
529
00:25:47,342 --> 00:25:49,942
- provided she wears an ankle monitor.
- No objection.
530
00:25:49,942 --> 00:25:52,870
We also request a court order
mandating strict compliance
531
00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:55,470
- with the defendant's drug regimen.
- So ordered.
532
00:25:55,470 --> 00:25:58,415
The defendant is released
in her parents' custody until trial.
533
00:25:58,415 --> 00:26:00,515
10-minute recess.
534
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:08,625
How could you let her go?
535
00:26:10,188 --> 00:26:12,439
I understand you're upset.
536
00:26:12,439 --> 00:26:15,957
But the judge feels Jamie's not dangerous
as long as she stays with her parents,
537
00:26:15,957 --> 00:26:18,216
- she takes her medication.
- This isn't right.
538
00:26:18,216 --> 00:26:22,937
I promise you
she'll get a fair trial.
539
00:26:24,482 --> 00:26:25,876
Not with that guy on their side.
540
00:26:25,876 --> 00:26:27,099
Why are you here?
541
00:26:27,099 --> 00:26:29,517
Mr. Lord wants to support
the Hoskins family
542
00:26:29,517 --> 00:26:31,533
as they fight these unjust causes.
543
00:26:31,533 --> 00:26:33,241
Jamie Hoskins is being framed.
544
00:26:33,241 --> 00:26:35,620
The police and the district
attorney both say she killed...
545
00:26:35,620 --> 00:26:38,190
- Derek Lord.
- In the flesh.
546
00:26:38,190 --> 00:26:40,391
to take dangerous,
mind-altering chemicals.
547
00:26:40,391 --> 00:26:42,086
They're the ones
with the blood on their hands.
548
00:26:42,086 --> 00:26:43,478
Jamie's a victim.
549
00:26:43,478 --> 00:26:47,143
And if her parents will allow it,
I'd like to pay for her defense.
550
00:26:47,143 --> 00:26:50,273
And on behalf of all victims
of psychiatric abuse,
551
00:26:50,273 --> 00:26:52,333
we're gonna win this fight.
552
00:27:01,013 --> 00:27:02,961
So much for a quiet little trial.
553
00:27:02,961 --> 00:27:04,486
Derek Lord's presence in the courtroom
554
00:27:04,486 --> 00:27:06,603
is bound to influence the jury
in Jamie's favor.
555
00:27:06,603 --> 00:27:11,544
Derek Lord is using this girl
to push his anti-psychiatry agenda.
556
00:27:11,544 --> 00:27:13,616
Nuts like this have been around for years.
557
00:27:13,616 --> 00:27:15,102
Maybe there's a reason for that.
558
00:27:15,102 --> 00:27:20,324
Kid doesn't fit the mold,
so he's got LD, ADD, HDD, ADHD.
559
00:27:20,324 --> 00:27:23,811
They can give him powerful drugs
like ritalin, concerta, or aderal.
560
00:27:23,811 --> 00:27:27,446
But there is a huge difference
between over-diagnosis
561
00:27:27,446 --> 00:27:31,377
and telling legitimately sick patients
to abandon lifesaving treatments.
562
00:27:31,377 --> 00:27:34,277
I'm just saying, whatever happened to
them having a lousy day?
563
00:27:34,277 --> 00:27:36,916
I agree with that. It seems like everyone's
a victim of something these days.
564
00:27:36,916 --> 00:27:39,203
But Jamie Hoskins is bipolar.
565
00:27:39,203 --> 00:27:41,605
So that girl should walk
because she got bad advice
566
00:27:41,605 --> 00:27:44,241
from some clown with a microphone
and leather pants? Come on.
567
00:27:44,241 --> 00:27:47,385
Derek Lord is a role model.
Kids look up to him.
568
00:27:47,385 --> 00:27:50,442
He shouldn't go on spouting off
about things that he doesn't understand.
569
00:27:50,442 --> 00:27:53,250
Kids are being bombarded
by thousands of messages every day
570
00:27:53,250 --> 00:27:56,102
telling them to buy everything
from zit cream to potato chips.
571
00:27:56,102 --> 00:27:57,387
They learn to say no.
572
00:27:57,387 --> 00:27:59,701
Yeah, but Jamie isn't an ordinary kid.
573
00:27:59,701 --> 00:28:02,310
Right. She has a very serious illness.
574
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:05,306
But that shouldn't automatically
excuse her from what she did.
575
00:28:05,306 --> 00:28:06,911
It's easy to judge mental illness
576
00:28:06,911 --> 00:28:10,266
if you've never had
to deal with it yourself.
577
00:28:12,588 --> 00:28:14,914
I'm willing to make a deal.
578
00:28:15,775 --> 00:28:18,129
Jamie pleads guilty
to involuntary manslaughter,
579
00:28:18,129 --> 00:28:20,486
she serves six months
in a psychiatric facility.
580
00:28:20,486 --> 00:28:22,624
You only wanna settle
because you know she's innocent.
581
00:28:22,624 --> 00:28:26,999
Actually, I'm trying to spare
everyone involved further trauma.
582
00:28:26,999 --> 00:28:30,958
Just out of curiosity,
what exactly is your role here, Mr. Lord?
583
00:28:30,958 --> 00:28:32,528
To make sure you don't blame the victim.
584
00:28:32,528 --> 00:28:35,334
If you're truly interested
in avoiding further trauma,
585
00:28:35,334 --> 00:28:37,160
why not simply drop the charges?
586
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,420
I can't do that.
587
00:28:38,420 --> 00:28:40,728
Jamie's actions caused
the death of Elena Ramirez
588
00:28:40,728 --> 00:28:42,526
and severe injury to six others.
589
00:28:42,526 --> 00:28:44,153
Well, maybe we should consider...
590
00:28:44,153 --> 00:28:45,886
No way.
This is a matter of principle.
591
00:28:45,886 --> 00:28:47,443
This is a matter of our daughter's life.
592
00:28:47,443 --> 00:28:49,977
Mr. And Mrs. Hoskins,
as Jamie's parents,
593
00:28:49,977 --> 00:28:52,313
you have the sole power
to negotiate on her behalf.
594
00:28:52,313 --> 00:28:55,865
- This is your decision.
- Mom, please, I trust Derek.
595
00:28:55,865 --> 00:28:57,130
He knows how to handle this.
596
00:28:57,130 --> 00:28:59,863
Ms. Novak, psychiatry
has damaged countless lives.
597
00:28:59,863 --> 00:29:01,750
Elena Ramirez is just the latest victim.
598
00:29:01,750 --> 00:29:05,917
I'm not here to debate the legitimacy
of psychiatric medicine.
599
00:29:05,917 --> 00:29:09,369
But I do think it's unfair to Jamie
to use her trial as a platform
600
00:29:09,369 --> 00:29:12,073
- for your political views.
- They're not just my views.
601
00:29:12,073 --> 00:29:15,805
Libertarians, fundamentalist Christians,
scientologists.
602
00:29:15,805 --> 00:29:17,835
Even practicing psychiatrists.
603
00:29:17,835 --> 00:29:20,295
There are caring people that
have been fighting this battle
604
00:29:20,295 --> 00:29:23,624
ever since German psychiatrists
were convicted of war crimes at Nuremberg.
605
00:29:23,624 --> 00:29:26,230
I can call on any number
of experts to testify
606
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:29,055
that psychiatry not only helps people,
it saves lives.
607
00:29:29,055 --> 00:29:32,736
Psychiatry is a corrupt
instrument of social control.
608
00:29:32,736 --> 00:29:35,773
No offense, Ms. Novak,
but you're a lawyer.
609
00:29:35,773 --> 00:29:37,165
And you're a rock star,
610
00:29:37,165 --> 00:29:41,439
so you'll understand if I don't
defer to your expertise on the subject.
611
00:29:43,922 --> 00:29:46,182
I'll see you in court.
612
00:29:46,694 --> 00:29:48,765
TRIAL PART 53
TUESDAY, APRIL 11
613
00:29:48,765 --> 00:29:49,853
Dr. Porterman,
614
00:29:49,853 --> 00:29:53,787
can you describe the circumstances under
which Jamie Hoskins became your patient?
615
00:29:53,787 --> 00:29:58,166
She was in a hypo-manic state
after months of debilitating depression.
616
00:29:58,166 --> 00:30:00,099
You diagnosed her with bipolar disorder.
617
00:30:00,099 --> 00:30:02,462
Yes, yes, she presented
all the classic symptoms.
618
00:30:02,462 --> 00:30:06,121
So I prescribed a combination of
valproate, a mood stabilizer,
619
00:30:06,121 --> 00:30:08,373
and an antidepressant.
620
00:30:08,373 --> 00:30:12,643
How would you characterize
Jamie's reaction to these drugs?
621
00:30:12,643 --> 00:30:14,686
As soon as the drugs
were properly titrated,
622
00:30:14,686 --> 00:30:17,100
Jamie's symptoms disappeared.
623
00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:21,304
Now, did Jamie understand how important
it was to faithfully take her medication?
624
00:30:21,304 --> 00:30:23,805
Yes, we devoted an entire
session to it.
625
00:30:23,805 --> 00:30:25,779
I showed her the statistics on relapse,
626
00:30:25,779 --> 00:30:28,024
we talked about how
she would get very sick.
627
00:30:28,024 --> 00:30:31,200
- Jamie understood the risks.
- Thank you.
628
00:30:32,325 --> 00:30:37,023
You said that Jamie understood
the risk of going off her medication.
629
00:30:37,023 --> 00:30:40,824
Did she understand the risk posed
by the medications themselves?
630
00:30:40,824 --> 00:30:43,048
Well, if you're referring
to liver function,
631
00:30:43,048 --> 00:30:44,629
Jamie undergoes periodic blood tests.
632
00:30:44,629 --> 00:30:48,382
Could you describe how valproate works
to relieve Jamie's symptoms?
633
00:30:48,382 --> 00:30:50,403
It aids neuronal transmission by...
634
00:30:50,403 --> 00:30:51,832
And how does it do that?
635
00:30:51,832 --> 00:30:54,266
Well, the exact mechanism is unknown.
636
00:30:54,266 --> 00:30:59,041
So you prescribed a powerful
psychotropic drug to a 16-year-old girl
637
00:30:59,041 --> 00:31:01,106
without knowing how it works?
638
00:31:01,106 --> 00:31:07,487
My job is to diagnose mental illness
and relieve the symptoms. / Fine.
639
00:31:07,487 --> 00:31:10,639
Could you tell the court
what medical tests you used
640
00:31:10,639 --> 00:31:13,463
to diagnose Ms. Hoskins' bipolar illness?
641
00:31:13,463 --> 00:31:15,470
I took a detailed history.
642
00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:17,010
Observed the symptoms.
643
00:31:17,010 --> 00:31:20,526
- We spoke at length about...
- No, what medical tests did you perform?
644
00:31:20,526 --> 00:31:22,897
Blood analysis, X-ray, CAT scan?
645
00:31:22,897 --> 00:31:28,607
No such tests currently exist
to diagnose bipolar illness.
646
00:31:28,607 --> 00:31:30,936
So to review...
647
00:31:30,936 --> 00:31:33,613
there's no medical test to diagnose it,
648
00:31:33,613 --> 00:31:36,813
you're not sure how the drugs
you prescribe affect it,
649
00:31:36,813 --> 00:31:39,728
but you're confident
my client has bipolar illness
650
00:31:39,728 --> 00:31:41,289
and that you've got it under control.
651
00:31:41,289 --> 00:31:44,598
- Objection.
- Withdrawn. Last question.
652
00:31:44,598 --> 00:31:48,873
Did Jamie Hoskins have
a history of violent behavior
653
00:31:48,873 --> 00:31:53,598
prior to taking the psychotropic
drugs you prescribed?
654
00:31:55,927 --> 00:31:57,710
No.
655
00:31:57,710 --> 00:32:01,523
Another victory for modern psychiatry.
656
00:32:04,426 --> 00:32:08,091
The drugs made me feel like
I was living in slow motion.
657
00:32:08,091 --> 00:32:11,997
I had no energy, no emotions.
658
00:32:11,997 --> 00:32:14,290
I just didn't feel like me.
659
00:32:14,290 --> 00:32:16,363
I just wanted to be myself again.
660
00:32:16,363 --> 00:32:18,536
No further questions.
661
00:32:18,536 --> 00:32:21,949
Jamie, why did you see Dr. Porterman
in the first place?
662
00:32:21,949 --> 00:32:24,378
My parents were worried about me.
663
00:32:24,378 --> 00:32:27,159
Were you depressed?
664
00:32:27,159 --> 00:32:30,697
I guess, I don't know.
I mean, I was sleeping a lot.
665
00:32:30,697 --> 00:32:32,158
Messing up in school.
666
00:32:32,158 --> 00:32:34,098
And then what happened?
667
00:32:34,098 --> 00:32:35,789
And then I started to feel a lot better.
668
00:32:35,789 --> 00:32:40,956
I was getting a ton of stuff done,
and I hardly slept at all.
669
00:32:40,956 --> 00:32:42,301
Well, were you worried?
670
00:32:42,301 --> 00:32:44,362
No, I felt great.
671
00:32:44,362 --> 00:32:49,171
I mean, except my parents and some of
my friends said I was talking really fast
672
00:32:49,171 --> 00:32:51,426
and, and losing my temper a lot.
673
00:32:51,426 --> 00:32:52,938
Did these symptoms stop
674
00:32:52,938 --> 00:32:57,145
when you started taking the drugs
prescribed by Dr. Porterman?
675
00:32:57,145 --> 00:33:00,362
I guess. / Then why did you stop
taking your medication?
676
00:33:00,362 --> 00:33:02,079
'Cause I wanted to feel normal again.
677
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:03,910
Normal?
678
00:33:03,910 --> 00:33:06,817
In the short time you stopped
taking your medication,
679
00:33:06,817 --> 00:33:09,042
you lost your virginity
in the school bathroom,
680
00:33:09,042 --> 00:33:11,409
you falsely accused
two classmates of rape,
681
00:33:11,409 --> 00:33:14,704
and now six people are in the hospital
and a young girl is dead!
682
00:33:14,704 --> 00:33:16,374
Those things were not my fault!
683
00:33:16,374 --> 00:33:17,839
Really?
684
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:19,052
Then who's to blame?
685
00:33:19,052 --> 00:33:20,729
Them!
686
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:22,584
Your parents?
687
00:33:22,584 --> 00:33:24,498
Yes, they made me go to Dr. Porterman!
688
00:33:24,498 --> 00:33:25,942
They let him put that stuff in my body!
689
00:33:25,942 --> 00:33:29,858
My parents have ruined my life.
690
00:33:43,494 --> 00:33:45,987
I'm really sorry.
691
00:33:46,414 --> 00:33:50,025
I can't even imagine how difficult
this must be for you.
692
00:33:50,025 --> 00:33:51,492
It's like we don't even know her anymore.
693
00:33:51,492 --> 00:33:53,326
And she's totally infatuated with this guy,
694
00:33:53,326 --> 00:33:55,031
like everything he says is gospel.
695
00:33:55,031 --> 00:33:58,343
I know, and I think he really
believes he's helping her.
696
00:33:58,343 --> 00:33:59,605
At first, we were grateful.
697
00:33:59,605 --> 00:34:02,347
I mean, we could never afford
a lawyer like Mr. Zierko.
698
00:34:02,347 --> 00:34:04,983
But now...
699
00:34:05,810 --> 00:34:09,048
Look, we've been monitoring
Jamie's medication. / Janet!
700
00:34:09,048 --> 00:34:11,211
We have to tell her.
She needs to know.
701
00:34:11,211 --> 00:34:12,795
Know what?
702
00:34:13,726 --> 00:34:18,056
Jamie stopped taking her pills
four days ago.
703
00:34:22,273 --> 00:34:24,569
TRIAL PART 3
TUESDAY, APRIL 11
704
00:34:24,569 --> 00:34:26,787
I've excused the jury
because it's come to my attention
705
00:34:26,787 --> 00:34:29,479
you may not be taking your medication.
706
00:34:29,479 --> 00:34:31,302
I don't need those pills.
They're poison!
707
00:34:31,302 --> 00:34:35,889
Complying with your drug regimen was
a condition of your release, Ms. Hoskins.
708
00:34:35,889 --> 00:34:38,456
If you refuse,
then I am forced to remand you
709
00:34:38,456 --> 00:34:41,701
to the hospital ward
of the juvenile detention facility
710
00:34:41,701 --> 00:34:46,732
where, if necessary, your medication
will be administered by force.
711
00:34:46,732 --> 00:34:50,522
Your honor, the court can't compel
my client to take her medication.
712
00:34:50,522 --> 00:34:53,298
Section 9.0 of the New York
mental hygiene law
713
00:34:53,298 --> 00:34:55,934
allows the government to protect
mentally ill individuals
714
00:34:55,934 --> 00:34:58,216
who pose a threat
to themselves or others.
715
00:34:58,216 --> 00:35:01,791
Ms. Hoskins, will you take
your medication as directed?
716
00:35:01,791 --> 00:35:03,598
You can't make me put
that stuff in my body!
717
00:35:03,598 --> 00:35:05,046
Yes, I can.
718
00:35:05,046 --> 00:35:07,105
- Take the defendant into custody.
- What?
719
00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:08,147
Come on, miss.
720
00:35:08,147 --> 00:35:09,732
No, get your hands off me!
721
00:35:09,732 --> 00:35:11,000
- Stop it!
- Take it easy.
722
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,971
No! Let me go!
723
00:35:13,407 --> 00:35:15,585
- Calm down!
- Let me go!
724
00:35:15,585 --> 00:35:19,178
Stop! Stop!
No, let me go!
725
00:35:19,178 --> 00:35:21,224
Let's get her out.
Come on.
726
00:35:23,545 --> 00:35:25,883
BELLEVUE HOSPITAL
ADOLESCENT PSYCHIATRIC WARD
JAMIE HOSKINS' ROOM
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 12
727
00:35:25,883 --> 00:35:27,374
They treating you okay in here?
728
00:35:27,374 --> 00:35:32,170
Yeah, the nurse took off the restraints
as soon as the meds kicked in.
729
00:35:33,690 --> 00:35:37,980
Jamie, I'm so sorry that it
came out like this.
730
00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:40,677
You did everything
you could to help me.
731
00:35:41,410 --> 00:35:43,684
Everyone did.
732
00:35:46,307 --> 00:35:49,274
I hurt so many people.
733
00:35:49,977 --> 00:35:52,571
I killed that poor girl.
734
00:35:54,481 --> 00:35:58,223
The nurse told me that you
refused to see your parents.
735
00:35:59,162 --> 00:36:03,796
Jamie, I know that Derek Lord
seems like some sort of hero.
736
00:36:03,796 --> 00:36:08,682
But your parents are the ones
that really love you.
737
00:36:09,644 --> 00:36:11,475
I know.
738
00:36:13,911 --> 00:36:19,100
I can't believe I let Derek convince me
that my parents were trying to hurt me.
739
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:23,655
It's just after he told me
what his parents did to him.
740
00:36:26,123 --> 00:36:28,326
TRIAL PART 53
THURSDAY, APRIL 13
741
00:36:28,326 --> 00:36:31,374
You were called by the defense
as an expert witness.
742
00:36:31,374 --> 00:36:33,206
Did you study psychiatry in college?
743
00:36:33,206 --> 00:36:35,079
I didn't go to college.
744
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:38,073
But I read many texts on the subject
and talked to hundreds of people.
745
00:36:38,073 --> 00:36:42,238
Is it true that you opposed
psychiatric care in all forms? / I do.
746
00:36:42,238 --> 00:36:44,176
Is it also true that at the age of 14
747
00:36:44,176 --> 00:36:46,978
you were committed to the Mayview
psychiatric hospital in Rhode island?
748
00:36:46,978 --> 00:36:49,674
Objection.
Mr. Lord is not on trial here.
749
00:36:49,674 --> 00:36:52,386
His views on psychiatry are
part of the record.
750
00:36:52,386 --> 00:36:54,249
The people have a right
to explore their basis.
751
00:36:54,249 --> 00:36:55,522
I'll allow it.
752
00:36:55,522 --> 00:36:57,826
I was committed by my parents
against my will.
753
00:36:57,826 --> 00:36:59,672
They forced you to take drugs,
754
00:36:59,672 --> 00:37:03,247
just like Jamie Hoskins'
parents are forcing her.
755
00:37:03,996 --> 00:37:05,177
That's right.
756
00:37:05,177 --> 00:37:10,021
But it was just drug therapy
that they gave you, was it, Mr. Lord?
757
00:37:11,203 --> 00:37:12,588
No.
758
00:37:12,588 --> 00:37:16,821
What other treatments
were you given at Mayview?
759
00:37:16,821 --> 00:37:18,255
ECT.
760
00:37:18,255 --> 00:37:20,567
Can you please tell the jury
what that stands for?
761
00:37:20,567 --> 00:37:22,211
Electro convulsive therapy.
762
00:37:22,211 --> 00:37:26,998
Also known as electric shock
therapy, isn't that right?
763
00:37:26,998 --> 00:37:30,080
They strap you down
to a special table that flips over.
764
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,529
So that you don't
choke on your own vomit.
765
00:37:33,529 --> 00:37:36,812
Then they inject you
with a muscle relaxant.
766
00:37:36,812 --> 00:37:39,519
Then they tape electrodes
to your forehead,
767
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:41,319
and then turn up the juice.
768
00:37:41,319 --> 00:37:43,788
When your toe starts twitching,
769
00:37:43,788 --> 00:37:48,766
that means you're having a major convulsion,
which is what they want.
770
00:37:48,766 --> 00:37:51,407
It's what they call "healing."
771
00:37:52,857 --> 00:37:56,250
Why did they perform this procedure?
772
00:37:59,172 --> 00:38:03,081
Because they said I was
psychotic depressive.
773
00:38:03,081 --> 00:38:04,712
And, in fact,
774
00:38:04,712 --> 00:38:08,908
didn't you attempt suicide three weeks
prior to your parents' committing you?
775
00:38:08,908 --> 00:38:10,032
It was a mistake.
776
00:38:10,032 --> 00:38:12,667
You took enough pills
to cause permanent brain damage.
777
00:38:12,667 --> 00:38:15,237
And the cure for that
was for them to pass huge amounts
778
00:38:15,237 --> 00:38:18,104
of electric current through my brain.
779
00:38:18,417 --> 00:38:21,883
ECT fried my memory.
780
00:38:21,883 --> 00:38:25,441
Huge chunks of my childhood gone!
781
00:38:25,441 --> 00:38:30,857
It was painful, dehumanizing torture.
782
00:38:32,501 --> 00:38:35,628
I'll never know how much
damage they did to me.
783
00:38:37,042 --> 00:38:40,334
That sounds like a terrible ordeal.
784
00:38:41,542 --> 00:38:43,336
Tell me.
785
00:38:43,336 --> 00:38:49,055
After you got out of the hospital,
did you ever attempt suicide again?
786
00:38:50,122 --> 00:38:51,213
No.
787
00:38:51,213 --> 00:38:55,515
And now you're a rich, successful
musician with millions of fans.
788
00:38:55,515 --> 00:38:59,962
Isn't it possible that psychiatry
didn't ruin your life...
789
00:38:59,962 --> 00:39:02,863
it saved it?
790
00:39:11,013 --> 00:39:13,938
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
have you reached a decision?
791
00:39:13,938 --> 00:39:15,402
We have, your honor.
792
00:39:15,402 --> 00:39:19,468
On the first count of vehicular
manslaughter in the second degree,
793
00:39:19,468 --> 00:39:20,733
how do you find?
794
00:39:20,733 --> 00:39:23,897
We find the defendant, Jamie Hoskins,
795
00:39:23,897 --> 00:39:26,359
guilty as charged.
796
00:39:27,782 --> 00:39:30,654
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,
thank you for your service.
797
00:39:30,654 --> 00:39:33,372
The defendant is remanded
pending sentencing.
798
00:39:33,372 --> 00:39:35,455
Court is adjourned.
799
00:39:36,329 --> 00:39:37,997
Mom...
800
00:39:44,067 --> 00:39:45,725
I'm sorry.
801
00:39:48,569 --> 00:39:52,495
I'm going to recommend
that you be sentenced as a juvenile.
802
00:39:52,495 --> 00:39:56,600
So there's a good chance you'll be placed
in a residential psychiatric facility, okay?
803
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,183
Thank you.
804
00:39:58,504 --> 00:40:01,485
- Miss Hoskins?
- It's okay.
805
00:40:16,206 --> 00:40:18,438
Tough case.
806
00:40:18,438 --> 00:40:19,833
Yeah.
807
00:40:20,333 --> 00:40:22,153
I mean, for you.
808
00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:36,903
I met this guy in law school.
809
00:40:38,534 --> 00:40:41,529
He was brilliant and funny.
810
00:40:41,529 --> 00:40:44,755
And we got engaged
during our final year.
811
00:40:44,755 --> 00:40:48,088
- You look happy.
- We were.
812
00:40:48,088 --> 00:40:49,905
So what happened?
813
00:40:51,195 --> 00:40:54,265
Well, Charlie started acting strange.
814
00:40:54,265 --> 00:40:57,871
He became withdrawn, paranoid.
815
00:40:57,871 --> 00:41:01,143
He'd disappear for days at a time.
816
00:41:02,205 --> 00:41:04,100
What was wrong with him?
817
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:06,025
Schizophrenia.
818
00:41:06,816 --> 00:41:08,711
It was horrible.
819
00:41:09,864 --> 00:41:12,881
And the worst part was
he refused to be treated.
820
00:41:12,881 --> 00:41:15,511
He wouldn't take any medication.
821
00:41:15,867 --> 00:41:18,415
I struck it out for a while,
but in the end,
822
00:41:18,415 --> 00:41:20,268
I couldn't handle it.
823
00:41:20,268 --> 00:41:22,789
I broke off the engagement.
824
00:41:23,407 --> 00:41:25,584
What happened to him?
825
00:41:26,916 --> 00:41:30,402
I don't know.
Last I heard, he was homeless.
826
00:41:32,750 --> 00:41:35,864
Well, you did what you had to do.
827
00:41:35,864 --> 00:41:37,535
You saved yourself.
828
00:41:37,535 --> 00:41:40,168
Yeah, but nobody saved him.
829
00:41:42,933 --> 00:41:46,744
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