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Topping the news,
a brutal slaying
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in Williamson County
has investigators puzzled.
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There should not be
any opposition
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to an honest search for truth.
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It was beastly.
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It wasn't fully human.
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There's a lot
of things at that scene
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that makes
an investigator wonder
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is it someone close to them?
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Austin wasn't
the kind of place
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you locked your doors and stuff.
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The why and the who
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were just big open-ended
glaring questions.
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You can't have
two identical murders
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and not see the relevance
of one to the other.
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One side wants
to conceal the truth
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and keep it in darkness.
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The other side
wants to reveal the truth
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and bring it to light.
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When God puts on your heart
something that must be done,
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it's often something
you're not qualified for.
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But sometimes
we're given opportunities
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to do things
outside our comfort zone
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and we should not be afraid.
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Part of the reason
I became a lawyer
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was To Kill a Mockingbird.
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Atticus Finch was one
of my childhood heroes.
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I thought if I could have
a chance someday
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to strike a blow
for justice, I...
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Wouldn't that be
a great opportunity?
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I worked for 20 years
as a civil trial lawyer,
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I did some good things
that helped people.
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But I'd never done anything
in the criminal sphere.
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I was completely unprepared
for the height
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and the depth of the power
and the arrogance
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of the district
attorney's office
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of Williamson County.
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There is a strong
political machine against us.
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That I didn't see coming.
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These... These cases
changed me.
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It changed everyone
in... in my family.
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On August 12th, 1986.
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It was Michael Morton's
33rd birthday.
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And, uh, he
and his lovely wife Christine
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lived in North Austin.
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They had a little
three-and-a-half year old boy
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named Eric.
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They had a little house.
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They had a yard,
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they had a little porch
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that Michael built
in the backyard.
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They had a dog.
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Just typical, good people.
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That night, they
celebrated Michael's birthday
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by having dinner together
in Austin.
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Being his birthday,
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he wanted to get amorous
with, uh...
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with Christine
after Eric was put to bed.
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She was very tired,
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and she kissed him,
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and said,
"Tomorrow night, babe."
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The next morning,
Michael said,
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He got up at 5:00 AM.
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Showered, shaved,
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he left a note
on the bathroom mirror
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for Christine.
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And, um, then he clocked in
at... at his job
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at Safeway at 6:00 AM.
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If we don't think
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that our life could change
like that,
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we're wrong.
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Later that morning,
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a neighbor found Eric
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walking by himself
in the front yard.
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Eric had a soiled diaper
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and the neighbor picked up Eric
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and walked him into the house
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calling out for Christine.
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Christine was not answering.
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She walked around with Eric
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looking for Christine
in the house
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and found Christine's body.
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There was blood
all over the walls, uh,
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over the ceiling, bits of flesh.
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The next door neighbor
was extremely frightened,
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immediately called
the sheriff's department
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who came straight over.
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Sheriff John Boutwell
came to the scene,
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the Hazelhurst address
of the Morton house.
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Sheriff Boutwell
was central casting
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for a Western novel.
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He had a Stetson hat, and boots,
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and the tie tack on his tie
were handcuffs.
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And, uh, he proceeded
to search the house.
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Without calling Michael
to tell him that
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his wife was dead.
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And he went back
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and he found Christine's body.
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The murderer
covered her corpse
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with a blue suitcase
and a wicker basket.
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Her face was...
was no longer recognizable
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as any sort of person.
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Using probably a two-by-four
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from the construction area
out back, uh,
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we know this
because there were bits of
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wood embedded in her brain.
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Christine Morton
was lying on her back.
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The killer brought it down
with full force
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right on her face.
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And again.
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And again.
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Nine or ten times.
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She was dead after the second
or, when, probably
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if not the first.
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Sheriff Boutwell didn't see
signs of forced entry.
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He didn't see very much
was stolen.
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And investigators determined
that Christine Morton
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was not sexually assaulted.
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He found Michael's note
to Christine.
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And the note said,
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"You know, I didn't want to
have a fight with you about sex
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but you left me hanging
on my birthday.
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And, um, I'll...
I'll see you tonight."
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Meanwhile, Michael Morton
went to a daycare
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to pick up his son Eric.
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Eric was not at the daycare.
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So Michael called home,
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just see what was going on.
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Sheriff Boutwell
answered the phone.
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Said, "You have to come home
right now."
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He answered
all of their questions
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and he told them,
"I didn't do it.
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I don't know who did,
I was at work.
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I found out about it later."
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Topping the news,
a brutal slaying
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in Williamson County
has investigators puzzled.
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Sheriff's officers refused
to talk in detail
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about the slaying,
but the possible suspect
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is being questioned
about the murder.
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The first time
I saw my brother Michael
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after the murder, uh,
was at the funeral.
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He was a different person.
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So we were we, so was I.
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You know, our family
was completely different
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because when Chris died,
it tore the family apart.
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You know, part of us died.
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As the criminal
investigation began,
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they interviewed my brother
multiple times.
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And they begin to interview
the neighbors.
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And his co-workers,
and people that they knew,
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asking them, you know,
"What kind of person is he?"
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And they looked at him
as the prime suspect.
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To think that he could do
something like that,
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to his own wife, or to anybody,
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we were in a state of shock.
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And then the nightmare
went to a whole another level.
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Not long after
Christine's funeral...
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...Michael heard
the doorbell of his house.
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And he picked up his son Eric
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and they went
to the door together.
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And it was Sheriff Boutwell
and several deputies.
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They took his son
out of his arms.
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And handcuffed Michael.
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And Michael looks back
and sees Eric reaching out
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and screaming,
"Daddy, daddy, daddy."
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And this little boy
that had just lost his mother,
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now is losing his father?
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It affected me
as a father
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because I thought
about my children.
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And that's why I was haunted
by this case.
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I can't imagine
how horrible that was
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for the little three
and half year old boy.
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- No, I can't.
- You can't.
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None of us can.
We can't grasp it.
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Everything that
happened to my brother
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happened so fast.
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I mean, right after the funeral
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they zero in on him.
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Less than six months
after Michael was arrested
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the case went to trial.
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That is very fast
for a murder trial.
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Michael Morton sought
and obtained
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the very best lawyers
that he could.
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Bill Allison and Bill White.
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Michael was...
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a little overwhelmed
by the situation
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that he found himself in,
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but he... but he was not
very evocative.
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He was the only suspect they had
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and his... The only thing
he had to say about it was,
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"It was somebody else.
I don't know who it was."
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As long as I live,
I'll still have
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an mixed feelings
about this case.
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I became involved
in Michael Morton
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as a law student working
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for Defense Attorney's
Bill White and Bill Allison
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who tried the case.
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My first impressions of Michael
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was he was very well-dressed
articulate man.
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He was not, uh, particularly
emotional by nature.
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A little bit stern at times,
but very controlled.
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Initially the lead up
to the trial.
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I was a little, uh, undecided
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about whether or not
he had committed this crime.
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I was sent up
to Georgetown
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to pick up
the crime scene photos.
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And I saw the crime scene photos
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for the first time.
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It was a very, uh,
sobering moment
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for a twenty-something
year old law student.
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The courtroom
where it was tried
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was this big,
very large courtroom
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in the old Williamson
County courthouse.
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And it was a very old
Southern atmosphere.
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It was long church
pew type sitting, old,
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kind of wooden bannisters,
and so it was, like,
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very, uh, a made
for movie trial.
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The prosecutors were the elected
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District Attorney Ken Anderson.
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Ken Anderson,
he was a very, uh, sarcastic,
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aggressive,
and smart prosecutor.
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He was quite clever
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in his playing
on the emotions of the case,
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and quite effective.
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He was my meticulous.
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He was very, very well-prepared.
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So, they brought their A team
for this trial.
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The strategy they used
in large part
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was a character
assassination of Michael.
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The storyline
was essentially, uh,
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it was a unhappy marriage.
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He was looking for a way out,
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lost his temper that night,
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and then tried
to cover it all up.
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The state's theory
of the case at trial
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was that Michael
had killed Christine
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in a sex-filled rage
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because she didn't have sex
with him on his birthday
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and the note that
was on the bathroom mirror,
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"You left me hanging
on my birthday."
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It was the evidence they used,
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but what...
There was more evidence.
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There was a hair in her hand.
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There was testimony at trial
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that it was consistent
with Michael's hair.
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In fact they said
it was consistent
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with, uh, a hair from his penis.
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There was also a semen stain
on the bed.
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The State called a witness
at trial to testify
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that it was a neat stain
containing only male cells.
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Prosecutor asked the State's
Pathologist Roberto Bayardo
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to give an opinion
on the time of death.
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So, he examined
Christine's stomach contents
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and the rate of digestion.
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And from that
he deduced a theory
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as to the time of death.
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Uh, Doctor Bayardo testified
that her time of death
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was sometime before
Michael had left for work.
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Michael's defense was,
"It wasn't me.
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I don't know who it was.
I was at work."
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Plain and simple.
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The only defense theory
that we had
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that this was the act
of some... of some maniac
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who had walked into your house
and killed you.
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Michael didn't make
the best witness
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from an emotional standpoint
I didn't think,
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but I didn't feel like
they had, uh, proof
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necessary for a conviction.
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So, the prosecutor
Ken Anderson
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waited until rebuttal
of closing argument,
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when it was too late
for the defense
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to say anything in response.
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In front of the judge,
the jury, the media,
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our family,
and in front of my mother.
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He stated that,
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he felt that after my brother
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brutally murdered
my sister-in-law.
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That he took her dead hand,
279
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cupped it in his hand,
280
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wrapped her hand
around his penis,
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and then masturbated himself
to the point of ejaculation.
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And that was just...
283
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that was the lowest of the low,
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that... that killed us all.
285
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That... That almost
finish us off.
286
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And then he showed
color photos of the murder scene
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and the blood everywhere.
288
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And said, "Don't let this
monster get away.
289
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We are not safe
if we let him get away.
290
00:16:46,405 --> 00:16:48,006
The jury didn't deliberate
very long.
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They had scientific
proof of the time of death
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from the stomach
contents analysis,
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then Michael Morton
was convicted.
294
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Michael Morton
is taken prison for life.
295
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I didn't do this.
296
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- I'm sorry, what?
- I did not do this.
297
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District Attorney Anderson
said a life sentence
298
00:17:17,636 --> 00:17:20,538
is too good for Michael Morton.
299
00:17:20,606 --> 00:17:22,940
He should have been given
the death penalty.
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00:17:23,008 --> 00:17:25,877
It got sickening after a while
to watch him cry
301
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at the wrong times
302
00:17:27,379 --> 00:17:28,913
and he seemed to only to cry
for himself.
303
00:17:40,292 --> 00:17:43,795
And then just months
after Michael was convicted,
304
00:17:43,862 --> 00:17:46,464
there was another woman
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00:17:46,532 --> 00:17:48,199
beaten in the face
with a blunt instrument
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while she was sleeping,
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00:17:50,102 --> 00:17:53,404
killed exactly the same way
as Christine Morton.
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Breaking news
in North Austin this morning,
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00:18:02,548 --> 00:18:04,916
the body of a 32-year old
resident
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00:18:04,983 --> 00:18:07,819
was found in her home
on Thursday murdered
311
00:18:07,886 --> 00:18:10,621
in what investigators called,
a savage beating.
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00:18:13,826 --> 00:18:18,429
On the morning of
January 13th of 1988,
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00:18:18,497 --> 00:18:21,732
Debra Jan Baker
did not show up for work.
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00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,702
Her employer
contacted Debra's mother
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00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:26,971
and asked that
she check on Debra
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00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:30,708
because it was not customary
for her not show up for work.
317
00:18:32,444 --> 00:18:35,179
So, her mother made her way
to the residence...
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00:18:41,186 --> 00:18:43,688
called out for Debra.
319
00:18:45,357 --> 00:18:46,924
Was unable to gain a response,
320
00:18:46,992 --> 00:18:49,026
so she made her way
to the master bedroom.
321
00:18:56,835 --> 00:18:59,504
And that's where she had
the grizzly discovered.
322
00:19:03,375 --> 00:19:05,543
My mom called me at work
323
00:19:05,577 --> 00:19:08,713
and told me
that Debbie was dead.
324
00:19:08,780 --> 00:19:12,183
I get... I get,
I don't know what to think.
325
00:19:12,251 --> 00:19:15,820
I just thought, you know,
this can't be, you know,
326
00:19:15,888 --> 00:19:17,455
how can she be dead
and she was, like,
327
00:19:17,523 --> 00:19:18,523
"She was murdered."
328
00:19:32,838 --> 00:19:33,971
By the time we got there,
329
00:19:34,039 --> 00:19:36,841
they'd already set up the tape.
330
00:19:36,909 --> 00:19:42,113
Um, I went under the tape
running toward the house
331
00:19:42,147 --> 00:19:43,848
and I just remembered, you know,
332
00:19:43,916 --> 00:19:46,851
police stopping me, you know,
"Wooh, wooh, wooh."
333
00:19:46,919 --> 00:19:48,286
Backing me up who, you know,
334
00:19:48,353 --> 00:19:49,887
"You can't be here.
Who are you?"
335
00:19:52,457 --> 00:19:55,293
Debra Jan Baker was lying
336
00:19:55,394 --> 00:19:58,796
in a semi-prone position
on the bed.
337
00:19:58,830 --> 00:20:02,900
There was indication
of a violent attack.
338
00:20:05,237 --> 00:20:09,874
There are pillows
over Debra Baker's head
339
00:20:09,942 --> 00:20:11,943
and body.
340
00:20:12,010 --> 00:20:15,780
There were a lot similarities
to the Christine Morton case.
341
00:20:15,881 --> 00:20:17,281
She was struck
multiple times
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00:20:17,349 --> 00:20:19,550
across the head.
343
00:20:19,585 --> 00:20:22,053
All of the blows to the head
344
00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:25,690
were fatal in nature
and fractured the skull.
345
00:20:25,757 --> 00:20:30,828
The weapon was likely
a thin linear object, uh,
346
00:20:30,896 --> 00:20:32,096
heavy in weight.
347
00:20:34,833 --> 00:20:39,003
And it was gruesome bloody scene
348
00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:41,872
which makes you think
about that poor mom
349
00:20:41,940 --> 00:20:45,309
that had to find her daughter
in that state.
350
00:20:45,377 --> 00:20:49,780
There were other injuries
into her hands
351
00:20:49,848 --> 00:20:53,718
that were characteristic
of defensive injuries
352
00:20:53,785 --> 00:20:57,855
as if she was trying
to fight off the attacker.
353
00:20:57,923 --> 00:21:00,191
There's a lot of
things at that scene
354
00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:02,460
that makes
the investigator wonder,
355
00:21:02,527 --> 00:21:04,929
"Is it someone
close to them?"
356
00:21:05,030 --> 00:21:09,300
It just seemed personal
because it was so violent.
357
00:21:11,470 --> 00:21:15,506
There's also a pillow
propped up underneath her
358
00:21:15,574 --> 00:21:20,211
where she is on her side,
kind of side and stomach,
359
00:21:20,245 --> 00:21:23,147
and that sometimes is an
indication of sexual assault.
360
00:21:25,217 --> 00:21:27,752
But during the course
of the autopsy examination,
361
00:21:27,819 --> 00:21:30,288
uh, they were, uh,
unable to locate
362
00:21:30,355 --> 00:21:32,290
any evidence of seminal fluid.
363
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,962
Debra Jan Baker, uh,
lived with her two children,
364
00:21:38,030 --> 00:21:40,398
but on this
particular evening, uh,
365
00:21:40,465 --> 00:21:42,366
she was at the residence alone.
366
00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:50,074
The sliding glass door
on the rear
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00:21:50,175 --> 00:21:52,843
of the, uh residence
was likely the entry point.
368
00:21:56,415 --> 00:21:58,115
Uh, the jewelry boxes
were opened,
369
00:21:58,150 --> 00:21:59,917
however, it didn't look like
there had been...
370
00:22:00,052 --> 00:22:01,519
Any jewelry had actually been...
371
00:22:01,586 --> 00:22:03,054
had been taken.
372
00:22:04,656 --> 00:22:07,591
There's a blue towel
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00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:10,194
in the bathroom on the ground.
374
00:22:10,228 --> 00:22:12,830
Which suggested that
the assailant
375
00:22:12,898 --> 00:22:15,566
may potentially had
cleaned up after the fact
376
00:22:15,634 --> 00:22:19,403
or in this case
may have taken a shower.
377
00:22:19,471 --> 00:22:21,605
There were hairs
that were found
378
00:22:21,673 --> 00:22:24,675
when investigators
used a vacuum.
379
00:22:24,743 --> 00:22:27,111
And vacuumed up
a pink comforter,
380
00:22:27,179 --> 00:22:29,747
and the bed, and sheets.
381
00:22:32,384 --> 00:22:34,852
The only things missing
from Debbie's house
382
00:22:34,886 --> 00:22:36,587
were her VCR.
383
00:22:36,655 --> 00:22:40,624
Some money from her purse
and some clothes
384
00:22:40,692 --> 00:22:43,494
which he probably used
to wrap the VCR in.
385
00:22:43,562 --> 00:22:46,130
In crimes, like this
386
00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:49,400
it's typical that
a suspect will sometimes
387
00:22:49,468 --> 00:22:53,170
take an object
usually not a VCR.
388
00:23:13,959 --> 00:23:17,328
My mom died
January 13th 1988,
389
00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:21,432
and I turned four on January
16th of the same year.
390
00:23:26,304 --> 00:23:29,974
So, as my grandmother put it,
I was just a few days shy
391
00:23:30,041 --> 00:23:31,742
of my fourth birthday,
392
00:23:31,810 --> 00:23:34,812
so I don't know
much about her, my mom,
393
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,714
except for what other people
have told me.
394
00:23:36,782 --> 00:23:39,850
But, um, I just spent
my whole life
395
00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:43,854
just living through
other people's stories.
396
00:23:46,591 --> 00:23:49,193
Debbie was, uh,
my oldest sister.
397
00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:52,596
Debbie was always
everybody's big sister.
398
00:23:52,631 --> 00:23:54,265
Debbie was very ambitious,
399
00:23:54,299 --> 00:23:57,101
there was nothing
she wouldn't tackle.
400
00:23:57,169 --> 00:24:00,438
She was working
in real estate, um,
401
00:24:00,505 --> 00:24:01,772
property management.
402
00:24:04,676 --> 00:24:08,145
Was very busy
with very two small children.
403
00:24:09,881 --> 00:24:13,117
We always, um, hung out
at Debbie's a lot,
404
00:24:13,151 --> 00:24:16,120
and on the night
Debbie was murdered,
405
00:24:16,188 --> 00:24:19,657
Debbie and I were just
hanging out at her house.
406
00:24:19,724 --> 00:24:21,625
Debbie didn't have
the kids that night
407
00:24:21,660 --> 00:24:24,595
and we just had kind of
a normal evening
408
00:24:24,663 --> 00:24:28,065
drinking coffee and chatting.
409
00:24:28,133 --> 00:24:29,633
A big cold front was blowing in,
410
00:24:29,701 --> 00:24:30,701
I remember that.
411
00:24:30,769 --> 00:24:33,571
It was odd for Austin.
412
00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:41,445
I heard a noise
413
00:24:41,513 --> 00:24:43,147
and asked her about it,
you know,
414
00:24:43,215 --> 00:24:44,949
"What am I hearing?"
415
00:24:45,016 --> 00:24:47,551
And she's, like,
"A broken pane of glass."
416
00:24:47,619 --> 00:24:49,720
And she put, uh,
a trash bag over it
417
00:24:49,754 --> 00:24:51,589
because of this cold front.
418
00:24:53,959 --> 00:24:55,292
And she said, you know,
419
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:56,827
"That's probably
what you're hearing."
420
00:25:01,199 --> 00:25:05,703
And then I left
about midnight.
421
00:25:23,622 --> 00:25:26,690
I've always thought
I was hearing him
422
00:25:26,725 --> 00:25:28,726
in her closet.
423
00:25:28,793 --> 00:25:30,194
I've always had that feeling
424
00:25:30,262 --> 00:25:31,562
that he was... he was there
425
00:25:31,630 --> 00:25:33,664
just waiting for me to leave.
426
00:25:43,208 --> 00:25:45,476
Very early on
in the investigation,
427
00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:47,645
investigators were focused
on individuals
428
00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:50,714
that were close to Debra Baker.
429
00:25:50,782 --> 00:25:52,583
They said we need you all,
you know,
430
00:25:52,651 --> 00:25:54,118
to all come down
at the police station
431
00:25:54,185 --> 00:25:55,719
and make a statement.
432
00:25:57,622 --> 00:25:59,023
So, they, you know,
433
00:25:59,057 --> 00:26:01,191
interviewed each of us
separately.
434
00:26:03,261 --> 00:26:04,795
They were trying
to find out about her
435
00:26:04,863 --> 00:26:06,430
and asked us questions,
436
00:26:06,498 --> 00:26:08,232
if we knew anybody
who had anything against her.
437
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:11,435
Who wanted to, uh...
Who would wanna hurt her.
438
00:26:14,139 --> 00:26:16,774
And then they started, uh,
asking a lot questions
439
00:26:16,841 --> 00:26:19,209
about the estranged
husband, Phil.
440
00:26:20,946 --> 00:26:22,947
Debbie and her husband
were separated,
441
00:26:23,014 --> 00:26:26,216
but they had joint custody.
442
00:26:26,284 --> 00:26:28,018
Phil lived very close by.
443
00:26:30,989 --> 00:26:32,790
And of course they were
asking questions
444
00:26:32,857 --> 00:26:34,592
if Phil was violent
and, you know,
445
00:26:34,659 --> 00:26:37,895
how their relationship was
with the divorce.
446
00:26:40,632 --> 00:26:42,866
And I remember just talking
about, you know, them
447
00:26:42,934 --> 00:26:44,335
just going separate ways,
448
00:26:44,402 --> 00:26:45,703
and they had a lot of
money problems
449
00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:48,272
and, um, you know,
450
00:26:50,008 --> 00:26:53,010
but the detectives
they were so sure
451
00:26:53,078 --> 00:26:55,646
it was Phil, you know,
452
00:26:55,714 --> 00:26:57,014
it's, like, you never know.
453
00:26:57,048 --> 00:26:58,949
You never know
who's gonna go crazy
454
00:26:59,017 --> 00:27:01,552
or who's gonna do this.
455
00:27:07,926 --> 00:27:11,161
Over 50% of female
homicides in the United States
456
00:27:11,229 --> 00:27:15,232
are the result of family
or, uh, dating relationships.
457
00:27:15,266 --> 00:27:17,101
So, very early
in the investigation,
458
00:27:17,168 --> 00:27:19,203
the investigators had focused on
459
00:27:19,270 --> 00:27:22,906
Debra Baker's, uh, ex-husband.
460
00:27:22,974 --> 00:27:24,708
They went through and made sure
461
00:27:24,776 --> 00:27:26,477
that they were thorough
462
00:27:26,544 --> 00:27:30,047
with of course their
interviews of the ex-husband.
463
00:27:31,983 --> 00:27:33,917
They decided
that he wanted the kids.
464
00:27:33,985 --> 00:27:36,987
That was what they told us,
oh, he wanted custody of kids.
465
00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:42,059
So, during the interview,
they were trying to come up
466
00:27:42,127 --> 00:27:44,495
with scenarios of how he might
467
00:27:44,529 --> 00:27:46,497
have been in her house.
468
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,769
He denied...
He denied everything.
469
00:27:56,941 --> 00:28:00,811
They were able to locate
and lift, uh,
470
00:28:00,845 --> 00:28:02,613
approximately fifteen
of his fingertips
471
00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:05,949
from the master bedroom
and in the master bath.
472
00:28:08,553 --> 00:28:11,922
And so they arranged for,
uh, polygraph tests.
473
00:28:25,670 --> 00:28:28,105
Phil passed the polygraphs fine.
474
00:28:28,173 --> 00:28:31,308
I remember at that time
not mentioning
475
00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:34,278
the real reason
for the separation.
476
00:28:34,345 --> 00:28:38,015
I went back and said,
look, I've got to say this,
477
00:28:38,049 --> 00:28:39,850
"They separated
because Phil was gay
478
00:28:39,918 --> 00:28:43,053
and Phil had come out."
479
00:28:43,121 --> 00:28:44,822
Debbie and Phil were separated,
480
00:28:44,889 --> 00:28:47,591
but they had, um,
very amicable relationship,
481
00:28:47,659 --> 00:28:49,393
joint custody, um,
482
00:28:49,461 --> 00:28:51,795
they switched the kids
every week.
483
00:28:51,863 --> 00:28:53,697
He lived very close by.
484
00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:56,667
He had the kids that night
when she was murdered.
485
00:28:56,735 --> 00:28:59,870
And I mean, it's very...
Respectfully for Phil,
486
00:29:00,004 --> 00:29:02,773
but he didn't want
the kids fulltime.
487
00:29:02,841 --> 00:29:04,708
He was enjoying his life.
488
00:29:04,776 --> 00:29:08,078
He was, you know,
able to date and do things
489
00:29:08,146 --> 00:29:09,747
that he hadn't been able to do,
490
00:29:09,814 --> 00:29:13,283
which having two small
children didn't make easier.
491
00:29:15,053 --> 00:29:16,754
Um, and there was no evidence
492
00:29:16,821 --> 00:29:19,289
that her ex-husband
wanted to cause her,
493
00:29:19,357 --> 00:29:21,892
um, this type of harm.
494
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,460
Debbie had no enemies.
495
00:29:23,528 --> 00:29:26,463
She didn't piss people off.
496
00:29:26,498 --> 00:29:28,565
She was everybody's friend.
497
00:29:28,633 --> 00:29:31,001
I just never knew, really,
never knew
498
00:29:31,069 --> 00:29:33,904
anybody to say a bad word
about her.
499
00:29:33,972 --> 00:29:36,440
And that's not just
remembering her saintly.
500
00:29:36,508 --> 00:29:39,443
I mean,
it's just the way she was.
501
00:29:39,511 --> 00:29:42,679
You just couldn't imagine
how anybody
502
00:29:42,714 --> 00:29:45,749
could be that angry at her
503
00:29:45,817 --> 00:29:49,286
because she was very,
very violently killed.
504
00:29:50,955 --> 00:29:52,790
Meanwhile, you know,
the killer is out there,
505
00:29:52,857 --> 00:29:54,324
somewhere.
506
00:30:01,933 --> 00:30:04,701
And then they kind of,
did start moving on,
507
00:30:04,769 --> 00:30:07,204
and start checking out,
you know, other people.
508
00:30:09,574 --> 00:30:11,241
We wanted to explore any avenues
509
00:30:11,309 --> 00:30:14,545
determine if she had any,
other dating relationships.
510
00:30:17,148 --> 00:30:19,383
She wasn't dating.
511
00:30:19,450 --> 00:30:20,918
She was very busy
with the new job,
512
00:30:20,985 --> 00:30:23,887
and two small kids.
513
00:30:23,955 --> 00:30:25,556
A canvass was conducted
514
00:30:25,623 --> 00:30:27,124
of the neighborhood.
515
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,195
The officers also looked
at any other
516
00:30:31,262 --> 00:30:34,264
suspicious activity
that may have been reported,
517
00:30:34,299 --> 00:30:36,266
uh, even prior to the homicide.
518
00:30:38,436 --> 00:30:44,074
There were checks of suspects
in the area
519
00:30:44,142 --> 00:30:46,510
who have had
previous sexual assaults,
520
00:30:46,578 --> 00:30:50,514
burglaries, peeping Toms,
those types of things.
521
00:30:50,582 --> 00:30:52,850
And I know initially
there were 52 suspects
522
00:30:52,884 --> 00:30:56,520
that they compared fingerprints
523
00:30:56,554 --> 00:30:59,022
that they took from the scene.
524
00:30:59,090 --> 00:31:00,757
That information
can be loaded
525
00:31:00,825 --> 00:31:02,759
to a national database
526
00:31:02,827 --> 00:31:05,329
and can be shared with agencies,
527
00:31:05,363 --> 00:31:07,464
uh, from the east coast
to the west coast.
528
00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:10,234
But they didn't have
any matches.
529
00:31:10,301 --> 00:31:15,639
Back in 1988, DNA technology
was just in its infancy.
530
00:31:15,707 --> 00:31:20,444
Uh, so it was a time
where we didn't have
531
00:31:20,511 --> 00:31:22,145
all the resources
that we would...
532
00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:25,449
we would necessarily
have available to us today.
533
00:31:25,483 --> 00:31:27,618
So having an electronic
device like the VCR,
534
00:31:27,685 --> 00:31:29,486
something that would be
identifiable,
535
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,756
um, detectives were able
to obtain the serial number.
536
00:31:32,824 --> 00:31:36,360
So they posted flyers
at various pawn shops
537
00:31:36,427 --> 00:31:39,162
in the area indicating
if any of the employees
538
00:31:39,230 --> 00:31:42,733
would come across a 1984
Montgomery Ward VCR,
539
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,234
with that serial number
that they were
540
00:31:44,302 --> 00:31:46,503
to immediately
notify homicide unit.
541
00:31:48,406 --> 00:31:50,674
However,
didn't have any matches.
542
00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:00,317
This case was really a mystery.
543
00:32:00,385 --> 00:32:01,919
We didn't have a lot to move on
544
00:32:01,986 --> 00:32:04,922
at that point back in 1988.
545
00:32:07,992 --> 00:32:09,927
Then we had the funeral.
546
00:32:11,462 --> 00:32:12,829
And it was weird,
547
00:32:12,897 --> 00:32:14,364
because we knew
the police were there.
548
00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:16,967
They told us they'd be there,
um, you know,
549
00:32:17,035 --> 00:32:18,468
watching to see
who came to the funeral
550
00:32:18,536 --> 00:32:20,170
and all that kind of stuff.
551
00:32:20,238 --> 00:32:22,873
And then same thing we're
looking around who's here,
552
00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:25,676
who do we know who, you know.
553
00:32:25,743 --> 00:32:27,210
And we called and like, "Hey,
554
00:32:27,278 --> 00:32:28,812
did you get anywhere with that",
555
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,814
and you know,
556
00:32:30,848 --> 00:32:34,718
just really would never
tell us anything.
557
00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:38,355
We just weren't able
to develop any leads
558
00:32:38,423 --> 00:32:40,590
at that point in time.
559
00:32:40,658 --> 00:32:43,694
And eventually the case
ended up going cold.
560
00:32:47,465 --> 00:32:50,867
So then it was just down to us
561
00:32:50,935 --> 00:32:53,904
suspecting everybody we knew.
562
00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:56,773
We all spent years just,
563
00:32:56,841 --> 00:33:00,744
you know, looking side-eye
at people and wondering, hmm.
564
00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:04,715
And you know, it was kind
of poisonous in a way, um,
565
00:33:04,782 --> 00:33:08,085
trying to think about people,
566
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:10,988
um, suspiciously.
567
00:33:14,392 --> 00:33:15,492
I had people tell me
568
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,994
that when I was a kid,
569
00:33:17,061 --> 00:33:18,595
that I was a young kid
that I would start
570
00:33:18,663 --> 00:33:20,097
crying for my mom.
571
00:33:20,131 --> 00:33:21,765
I don't remember any of that.
572
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:24,201
Um, but it didn't really
become real for me
573
00:33:24,268 --> 00:33:26,470
until I was 18 and graduating
from high school.
574
00:33:26,537 --> 00:33:28,638
And for some reason,
that graduation date
575
00:33:28,706 --> 00:33:30,374
and I went, oh,
my mom's not gonna be there.
576
00:33:30,441 --> 00:33:31,875
And that's what hit me.
577
00:33:31,943 --> 00:33:34,578
And, um, I... From there,
578
00:33:34,645 --> 00:33:36,747
it was just
a different story altogether.
579
00:33:36,781 --> 00:33:39,449
But it wasn't until I was 18
that I, you know,
580
00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:41,752
really started to think
about what I was missing.
581
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:47,657
But it was definitely
a cloud over the family,
582
00:33:47,725 --> 00:33:49,326
it always had been.
583
00:33:52,764 --> 00:33:55,532
She was murdered,
but the why of it was...
584
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,135
The why and the who
were just big open-ended,
585
00:33:58,202 --> 00:33:59,703
glaring questions.
586
00:34:11,115 --> 00:34:13,250
Yay.
587
00:34:22,193 --> 00:34:25,395
Michael had been
in prison for 14 years.
588
00:34:25,463 --> 00:34:28,532
He'd lost appeal after appeal.
589
00:34:28,566 --> 00:34:31,568
But in 2002,
the Innocence Project
590
00:34:31,636 --> 00:34:34,271
found out about his case
from Bill Allison,
591
00:34:34,338 --> 00:34:35,839
his lawyer at trial.
592
00:34:42,013 --> 00:34:45,482
The Innocence Project
is a group of lawyers
593
00:34:45,550 --> 00:34:47,484
that are some of the best
and brightest people
594
00:34:47,552 --> 00:34:49,119
I've ever met,
595
00:34:49,187 --> 00:34:52,422
who were among the very first
to consider
596
00:34:52,490 --> 00:34:55,792
how to use
the new DNA technology,
597
00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:58,662
which was
revolutionizing science.
598
00:34:58,696 --> 00:35:01,098
The focus
is on freeing the innocent.
599
00:35:03,134 --> 00:35:05,635
In 2004,
the New York Innocence Project
600
00:35:05,703 --> 00:35:08,972
called me and asked me
to take the case.
601
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,174
It took me a minute to grasp it
602
00:35:11,242 --> 00:35:12,843
because I thought, are you...
603
00:35:12,910 --> 00:35:14,478
are you calling
the right number?
604
00:35:14,512 --> 00:35:17,781
I'd never had any kind
of a criminal case before.
605
00:35:17,849 --> 00:35:19,783
That argument could be made
that I was the least
606
00:35:19,851 --> 00:35:21,685
qualified lawyer in Texas
607
00:35:21,752 --> 00:35:25,355
to take this level
of a murder case.
608
00:35:25,423 --> 00:35:30,293
But, um, they said
that they wanted me.
609
00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:32,496
I think that, uh,
610
00:35:32,563 --> 00:35:34,264
my medical malpractice
experience
611
00:35:34,332 --> 00:35:35,966
and the stomach
contents analysis
612
00:35:36,033 --> 00:35:38,435
was what brought
the end of the case.
613
00:35:38,503 --> 00:35:41,238
Once in, I was in.
614
00:35:44,909 --> 00:35:46,376
One of the first things
that struck me
615
00:35:46,444 --> 00:35:49,980
was the note
he left for Christine.
616
00:35:50,047 --> 00:35:53,917
And I thought, wait a minute,
617
00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:56,419
if I was going
to murder my wife,
618
00:35:56,454 --> 00:35:58,355
the last thing I would do
619
00:35:58,422 --> 00:36:00,891
is leave a note
calling attention
620
00:36:00,958 --> 00:36:03,093
to an argument with my wife.
621
00:36:04,495 --> 00:36:06,096
It would make no sense.
622
00:36:07,765 --> 00:36:09,399
As I read the file,
623
00:36:09,467 --> 00:36:11,735
I found no real
evidence of guilt,
624
00:36:11,802 --> 00:36:14,671
no witness, no eye witness
of any violence,
625
00:36:14,739 --> 00:36:16,339
he had no record.
626
00:36:16,407 --> 00:36:19,209
Mr. Morton passed
two lie detector tests
627
00:36:19,277 --> 00:36:21,678
at the time of his prosecution.
628
00:36:21,746 --> 00:36:23,346
And the medical examiner,
629
00:36:23,414 --> 00:36:25,048
he didn't see the body
for a couple of days.
630
00:36:25,082 --> 00:36:26,983
So he couldn't do
the standard means
631
00:36:27,051 --> 00:36:29,219
of timing death by Rigor mortis,
632
00:36:29,253 --> 00:36:30,921
or liver mortis.
633
00:36:30,988 --> 00:36:35,525
Um, he used an analysis
of stomach contents solely
634
00:36:35,593 --> 00:36:37,160
as his means of timing death,
635
00:36:37,228 --> 00:36:38,728
which all of the medical
literature says,
636
00:36:38,796 --> 00:36:40,397
you can't do.
637
00:36:40,464 --> 00:36:42,165
It should never have come
into evidence at all.
638
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,568
And if that was the basis
for the jury's finding,
639
00:36:44,635 --> 00:36:46,369
then there's nothing.
640
00:36:46,437 --> 00:36:49,573
So there's nothing really
to convict the man at trial.
641
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,108
That doesn't mean he's innocent.
642
00:36:52,176 --> 00:36:53,910
But I was determined to do
643
00:36:54,011 --> 00:36:56,146
what I needed to do to find out.
644
00:36:59,617 --> 00:37:02,419
John Raley
was teaching me the ropes
645
00:37:02,486 --> 00:37:04,421
as a law student
and a law clerk.
646
00:37:04,488 --> 00:37:09,593
I'd always been interested
in Innocence Project cases,
647
00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:11,428
and on Michael's case,
648
00:37:11,495 --> 00:37:13,597
they needed boots
on the ground in Texas.
649
00:37:13,631 --> 00:37:16,099
So John Raley said,
650
00:37:16,167 --> 00:37:17,801
"Hey, kiddo,
let's go do this thing."
651
00:37:17,868 --> 00:37:19,703
And it was kind of, you know,
652
00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:22,005
to give me an opportunity
to do something like that.
653
00:37:23,808 --> 00:37:25,475
Jackie went with me
to visit Michael
654
00:37:25,543 --> 00:37:27,277
the first time in prison.
655
00:37:27,345 --> 00:37:30,714
She was very excited about it.
656
00:37:30,748 --> 00:37:33,483
I was skeptical
that he was innocent,
657
00:37:33,551 --> 00:37:35,118
to be honest with you.
658
00:37:35,186 --> 00:37:36,820
But I was absolutely sure
659
00:37:36,887 --> 00:37:38,455
that he did not get
a fair trial.
660
00:37:38,489 --> 00:37:42,192
And the investigation
was not full and complete.
661
00:37:42,226 --> 00:37:45,695
I knew that we needed
to dig into this case
662
00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:49,532
to get an analysis of what
the facts were at the time
663
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,535
Michael was arrested
at the time of his trial.
664
00:37:52,603 --> 00:37:54,904
And then bring it forward
to now.
665
00:37:56,941 --> 00:37:59,109
We drove to,
666
00:37:59,176 --> 00:38:00,810
I think it was called
the Michael unit,
667
00:38:00,878 --> 00:38:03,280
actually in East Texas
in the middle of nowhere.
668
00:38:07,385 --> 00:38:10,387
John and I got to go in
and see Michael.
669
00:38:10,454 --> 00:38:12,689
And we actually met with him in,
670
00:38:12,757 --> 00:38:14,624
I think the family meeting area,
671
00:38:14,692 --> 00:38:18,228
which we thought was odd
because we were counsel.
672
00:38:24,035 --> 00:38:29,039
I ask him what happened
on August 12th and 13th, 1986?
673
00:38:29,106 --> 00:38:30,974
Take me through those two days,
674
00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:34,077
in as much detail
as you can. And he did.
675
00:38:36,947 --> 00:38:40,850
After one
of the best days of my life,
676
00:38:40,918 --> 00:38:43,453
5 o'clock next morning,
the alarm went off.
677
00:38:43,521 --> 00:38:47,424
And I showered, shaved, dressed.
678
00:38:47,491 --> 00:38:50,393
And, uh, it's the last time
I saw her alive.
679
00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:55,865
It was exactly the same
as he had said at trial
680
00:38:55,933 --> 00:38:58,234
all of those years ago.
681
00:39:01,772 --> 00:39:04,040
John, when we first met Michael,
682
00:39:04,108 --> 00:39:07,043
he had no doubt
that Michael was innocent.
683
00:39:08,946 --> 00:39:11,181
I don't claim
to have psychic powers,
684
00:39:11,248 --> 00:39:12,849
but I cross examine people
for a living
685
00:39:12,883 --> 00:39:15,552
and I can usually tell
if people are fibbing.
686
00:39:15,619 --> 00:39:18,855
And there was nothing
about this man
687
00:39:18,923 --> 00:39:20,690
that did not speak from a place
688
00:39:20,725 --> 00:39:23,526
of integrity and honesty.
689
00:39:27,264 --> 00:39:28,865
At one point,
John excused himself
690
00:39:28,899 --> 00:39:30,433
to go the restroom and he'd left
691
00:39:30,501 --> 00:39:33,136
his sports jacket
folded up on the table.
692
00:39:35,406 --> 00:39:37,707
It took every little bit
of willpower I had
693
00:39:37,775 --> 00:39:39,442
not to reach out
and just kind of touch it
694
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:41,444
because it looks so soft
and comfortable
695
00:39:41,512 --> 00:39:43,613
and it looked so good.
696
00:39:46,117 --> 00:39:50,053
The visit with Michael
confirmed to me
697
00:39:50,121 --> 00:39:52,255
that he was actually innocent
and then upped the ante,
698
00:39:52,323 --> 00:39:55,358
it is now no longer
just a legal motion.
699
00:39:55,426 --> 00:39:57,861
Now there's
an innocent man in prison.
700
00:39:57,895 --> 00:40:00,296
Now there's a brutal murderer
maybe at large
701
00:40:00,364 --> 00:40:02,165
maybe killing other people.
702
00:40:10,307 --> 00:40:11,875
When John came home that night,
703
00:40:11,942 --> 00:40:14,043
he just... Was...
704
00:40:14,111 --> 00:40:17,113
He was excited
and you could just tell
705
00:40:17,181 --> 00:40:18,882
it was another level of,
706
00:40:18,949 --> 00:40:20,850
um, intensity, you know,
it just kind of like,
707
00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:23,219
okay, this is...
This is the real deal.
708
00:40:23,287 --> 00:40:24,888
There's...
I just met with a man
709
00:40:24,955 --> 00:40:27,424
that has been sitting
in prison all these years,
710
00:40:27,491 --> 00:40:29,626
with this...
He just lost everything.
711
00:40:29,693 --> 00:40:31,961
He's lost everything
and he's innocent.
712
00:40:32,029 --> 00:40:34,631
He shouldn't be there.
And he said, "Kelly, I...
713
00:40:34,698 --> 00:40:36,533
we just...
I've got to get him out,
714
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,368
and, we've got to do it.
This has gotta happen."
715
00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:42,405
And I just said,
"Then do it. Do it John."
716
00:40:44,175 --> 00:40:48,278
Kelly Raley is the smartest
and best person I know.
717
00:40:49,814 --> 00:40:53,683
She is brilliant.
She's beautiful
718
00:40:53,751 --> 00:40:56,519
and, um, she's good.
719
00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:58,588
And I'm blessed to...
720
00:40:58,656 --> 00:41:00,323
That she even wanted
to go out with me,
721
00:41:00,391 --> 00:41:02,025
let alone, marry me.
722
00:41:02,092 --> 00:41:03,793
Kelly is a very good lawyer.
723
00:41:03,861 --> 00:41:05,995
A very good investigator.
A very good researcher.
724
00:41:06,063 --> 00:41:07,831
So she researched
Williamson County
725
00:41:07,865 --> 00:41:10,733
and found out
the political machinations
726
00:41:10,801 --> 00:41:13,102
I was going to be up against,
and understood
727
00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:16,306
more than I did
how hard it was going to be.
728
00:41:16,373 --> 00:41:18,141
John loves challenges.
729
00:41:18,209 --> 00:41:19,909
He's always loved challenges.
730
00:41:19,977 --> 00:41:21,311
He still loves challenges.
731
00:41:21,378 --> 00:41:23,613
And definitely,
732
00:41:23,681 --> 00:41:25,748
he's not the kind of person
that gonna turn
733
00:41:25,816 --> 00:41:28,184
something down
just because it might be
734
00:41:28,219 --> 00:41:30,119
a little bit
out of his comfort zone.
735
00:41:30,187 --> 00:41:32,989
But, I don't want to call him
naive because, you know,
736
00:41:33,057 --> 00:41:34,591
but he was naive.
737
00:41:34,658 --> 00:41:36,259
He really was.
738
00:41:38,829 --> 00:41:42,165
They just... They just had
a real strong familial,
739
00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:45,535
political connection
in that county for decades.
740
00:42:05,456 --> 00:42:07,657
You're not going to get
these folks' cooperation
741
00:42:07,725 --> 00:42:11,561
because that puts
a bad light on their mentors,
742
00:42:11,629 --> 00:42:12,896
their friends, their colleagues
743
00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:14,230
and they're...
744
00:42:14,298 --> 00:42:15,565
They're going
to protect each other,
745
00:42:15,633 --> 00:42:18,067
so I said, "John,
don't be, you know,
746
00:42:18,135 --> 00:42:19,536
don't be fooled by these guys.
747
00:42:19,603 --> 00:42:22,305
They're not going
to play nice to you."
748
00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:25,041
That was really hard
for me to grasp.
749
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:28,011
There should not be
any opposition
750
00:42:28,078 --> 00:42:30,046
to an honest search for truth.
751
00:42:30,114 --> 00:42:32,315
I had no idea,
752
00:42:32,383 --> 00:42:34,884
going into this
how extensive it would be
753
00:42:34,952 --> 00:42:36,653
and how much
work it would take."
754
00:42:39,356 --> 00:42:41,958
We, uh,
we got a little team together
755
00:42:41,992 --> 00:42:43,660
and we started working.
756
00:42:45,529 --> 00:42:47,363
When we got the list of evidence
757
00:42:47,431 --> 00:42:49,465
that was still on file,
758
00:42:49,533 --> 00:42:52,435
we saw this bandana
that had blood on it.
759
00:42:54,204 --> 00:42:58,041
There's a crime report
from one of the deputy's,
760
00:42:58,108 --> 00:43:01,144
that notices that there is
the dirty bandana,
761
00:43:01,211 --> 00:43:03,713
in this curb
near a construction site
762
00:43:03,781 --> 00:43:06,482
about a hundred yards
behind the house.
763
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:08,051
He doesn't pick it up
because he thinks...
764
00:43:08,118 --> 00:43:10,720
It looks... That it's been
there too long.
765
00:43:10,754 --> 00:43:12,355
Christine Morton's brother,
766
00:43:12,423 --> 00:43:14,724
unimpressed
with the investigated detail
767
00:43:14,758 --> 00:43:16,392
going into this case,
768
00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:18,528
does his own search,
finds this bandana,
769
00:43:18,562 --> 00:43:20,964
picks it up,
770
00:43:21,031 --> 00:43:24,934
brings it back to the house
and they put it into a, uh,
771
00:43:25,002 --> 00:43:28,638
a baggie and they bring it
to the sheriff's office.
772
00:43:28,706 --> 00:43:31,541
And practically, force them
to take it into evidence.
773
00:43:34,044 --> 00:43:37,347
It was noted
to have blood on it.
774
00:43:37,414 --> 00:43:40,283
There was no DNA testing
available back then.
775
00:43:40,351 --> 00:43:42,118
So, it was put in a bag
776
00:43:42,186 --> 00:43:44,887
and it was stored
and it was ignored.
777
00:43:50,361 --> 00:43:52,128
Naturally,
we wanted to try to do
778
00:43:52,196 --> 00:43:55,131
DNA testing on the bandana,
779
00:43:55,165 --> 00:43:58,067
uh, to see who's blood it was,
780
00:43:58,135 --> 00:44:01,070
thinking it might be
Christine's blood.
781
00:44:01,138 --> 00:44:03,439
Intermingled with sweat,
782
00:44:03,507 --> 00:44:05,708
uh, skin cells,
783
00:44:05,776 --> 00:44:10,246
hair perhaps of the perpetuator.
784
00:44:10,314 --> 00:44:14,017
If we could get a solid
DNA sample of those things,
785
00:44:14,084 --> 00:44:17,086
we could run it
through the federal data bank
786
00:44:17,154 --> 00:44:20,890
and maybe identify the murderer.
787
00:44:20,958 --> 00:44:22,225
And so,
788
00:44:22,292 --> 00:44:23,693
uh, the focus of the case
789
00:44:23,727 --> 00:44:26,129
became the blue bandana.
790
00:44:27,765 --> 00:44:29,899
And it was just like
this little time capsule
791
00:44:29,967 --> 00:44:32,402
waiting to be tested.
792
00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:39,542
We sent Jackie
kind as a stealth
793
00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:41,577
to Williamson County.
794
00:44:43,681 --> 00:44:45,181
I went and found the court clerk
795
00:44:45,249 --> 00:44:48,084
and I looked
for the friendliest lady
796
00:44:48,152 --> 00:44:50,853
I could find in the bunch
797
00:44:50,921 --> 00:44:53,156
and, um, asked if I can please
798
00:44:53,257 --> 00:44:54,957
see the evidence in this case,
799
00:44:55,025 --> 00:44:57,260
I needed to just
have a look at it.
800
00:44:59,196 --> 00:45:01,497
I remember they had just
moved in to a new building
801
00:45:01,565 --> 00:45:03,466
and everything
was kind of in shambles,
802
00:45:03,534 --> 00:45:05,501
but she took me to the basement
803
00:45:05,569 --> 00:45:08,104
of that courthouse building
804
00:45:08,172 --> 00:45:11,741
and, um, and pointed me
toward a corner and said,
805
00:45:11,809 --> 00:45:13,276
"It's probably over there."
806
00:45:13,343 --> 00:45:16,846
And she left me there.
807
00:45:16,914 --> 00:45:19,215
In a basement full of boxes.
808
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,688
But the blue bandana
wasn't there.
809
00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:32,161
So she went
to the sheriff's department
810
00:45:32,229 --> 00:45:35,198
and, um, they laughed
at her face and told her,
811
00:45:35,265 --> 00:45:38,167
"No, you cannot see it."
812
00:45:38,235 --> 00:45:40,536
Now, why would they do that
813
00:45:40,604 --> 00:45:44,340
unless, the bandana
could be a problem for them?
814
00:45:47,978 --> 00:45:49,979
In February of 2005,
815
00:45:50,047 --> 00:45:52,048
we filed our motion
for DNA testing
816
00:45:52,116 --> 00:45:53,916
on the bloody bandana.
817
00:45:55,619 --> 00:45:57,587
If we could get
a motion approved,
818
00:45:57,654 --> 00:46:02,258
that would force them to turn
the bandana over for testing.
819
00:46:02,292 --> 00:46:04,160
The district attorney
didn't even respond
820
00:46:04,228 --> 00:46:06,162
to our motion for 10 months.
821
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:08,564
They kept asking for extensions.
822
00:46:08,632 --> 00:46:11,300
Which were inevitably granted.
823
00:46:13,704 --> 00:46:16,339
While this was happening,
824
00:46:16,406 --> 00:46:18,941
an innocent man was spending
his life in a cage.
825
00:46:21,211 --> 00:46:24,013
The district attorney
had convinced
826
00:46:24,081 --> 00:46:26,983
Christine's family
that Michael was guilty
827
00:46:27,050 --> 00:46:29,852
and so Eric was raised
by Christine's sister
828
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,121
to believe that his father
killed his mother.
829
00:46:33,991 --> 00:46:36,359
There was
court-ordered visitation.
830
00:46:36,426 --> 00:46:38,561
Eric would have
to be brought to me
831
00:46:38,629 --> 00:46:42,465
every six months
by my sister in law.
832
00:46:42,533 --> 00:46:45,434
Visitation is like oxygen,
833
00:46:45,502 --> 00:46:47,436
I would love seeing him,
834
00:46:47,471 --> 00:46:49,772
but I could also see
that he was becoming
835
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,976
more distant as Eric
got a little bit older
836
00:46:54,044 --> 00:46:56,412
and he started, you know,
getting into puberty,
837
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,947
I got a letter
from him that he said,
838
00:46:58,015 --> 00:47:01,417
he would like to,
uh, suspend the visits,
839
00:47:01,485 --> 00:47:02,985
not do them anymore.
840
00:47:04,621 --> 00:47:07,456
And I thought about it,
841
00:47:07,491 --> 00:47:08,991
I kinda weighed the pros
and cons
842
00:47:09,059 --> 00:47:10,893
and I wrote him back,
and I said,
843
00:47:10,961 --> 00:47:15,264
"Well, I'll grant your wish
844
00:47:15,299 --> 00:47:16,732
but you got to come here
845
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,769
and look me in the eye
and tell me that."
846
00:47:19,803 --> 00:47:21,904
We had our greetings
and I asked him
847
00:47:21,972 --> 00:47:25,408
if this was our last visit
and he...
848
00:47:25,475 --> 00:47:27,076
He wouldn't look me in the eye,
849
00:47:27,144 --> 00:47:29,579
he told me that,
"Yeah, it's the last one."
850
00:47:31,181 --> 00:47:33,449
With all the bad things
that had happened,
851
00:47:33,517 --> 00:47:36,919
uh, my wife's murder,
my arrest and conviction,
852
00:47:36,987 --> 00:47:41,557
my life sentence, all of that,
853
00:47:41,625 --> 00:47:45,561
um, didn't do me in,
854
00:47:45,629 --> 00:47:48,865
I thought I was pretty tough
and I could take it,
855
00:47:48,899 --> 00:47:51,968
but, um, when I lost him,
856
00:47:54,571 --> 00:47:56,806
that's what broke me.
857
00:48:00,677 --> 00:48:04,046
My father, was at the time
a retired prosecutor,
858
00:48:04,114 --> 00:48:06,282
and he suggested I just call
the district attorney
859
00:48:06,350 --> 00:48:09,151
and try to talk to him
and reason with him,
860
00:48:09,219 --> 00:48:12,955
and so I did
I called John Bradley,
861
00:48:13,023 --> 00:48:15,691
he had been prosecutor
of the year of Texas,
862
00:48:15,759 --> 00:48:18,060
very powerful man.
863
00:48:18,128 --> 00:48:19,829
And so,
864
00:48:19,897 --> 00:48:24,033
I was negotiating with,
865
00:48:24,101 --> 00:48:26,269
a district attorney
John Bradley,
866
00:48:26,336 --> 00:48:29,972
for a task that might reveal
Ken Anderson,
867
00:48:30,007 --> 00:48:32,975
his mentor, now a judge,
868
00:48:33,043 --> 00:48:35,544
might have put
an innocent person in prison
869
00:48:35,612 --> 00:48:37,546
and let the murderer go free.
870
00:48:37,614 --> 00:48:40,182
But and...
I tried to, you know,
871
00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:42,018
talk to him just...
872
00:48:42,085 --> 00:48:44,353
On a normal level, and say,
"Look,
873
00:48:44,421 --> 00:48:46,856
all we want to know is the truth
874
00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:49,792
and nothing bad
can come from seeking truth.
875
00:48:49,860 --> 00:48:51,694
You know, Michael is where
he is supposed to be,
876
00:48:51,762 --> 00:48:54,764
which is a good thing
or he is innocent,
877
00:48:54,798 --> 00:48:56,532
which means there may be
a brutal murderer
878
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,301
at large killing other people.
879
00:48:59,803 --> 00:49:02,672
Don't you want to find out?"
880
00:49:02,706 --> 00:49:07,343
Um, and he said that, uh,
881
00:49:07,411 --> 00:49:10,613
doing the test
would muddy the waters.
882
00:49:10,681 --> 00:49:14,250
He said doing the test
would muddy the waters.
883
00:49:14,318 --> 00:49:17,386
And I had no idea
what he meant by that.
884
00:49:17,454 --> 00:49:20,556
And I said Mr. Bradley,
truth clarifies.
885
00:49:22,492 --> 00:49:25,861
And, um, the battle was joined.
886
00:49:33,003 --> 00:49:35,171
Kelly gave me
a great analogy one time,
887
00:49:35,238 --> 00:49:37,206
she said,
it was like a split screen
888
00:49:37,274 --> 00:49:41,077
and one side of the screen
is Michael alone in a cage
889
00:49:41,144 --> 00:49:44,981
and on the other side
of the screen John and Kelly,
890
00:49:45,048 --> 00:49:46,482
and they were having
our children
891
00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:48,017
and watching them grow
892
00:49:48,085 --> 00:49:49,752
and doing school activities
with them,
893
00:49:49,820 --> 00:49:53,089
and girl scouts
and boy scouts and sports.
894
00:49:53,156 --> 00:49:55,858
And they go to middle school
and high school
895
00:49:55,926 --> 00:49:59,829
and off to college
for that same time period.
896
00:49:59,896 --> 00:50:02,098
And that's always
kind of haunted me
897
00:50:02,165 --> 00:50:05,301
and it was on my mind
as we were fighting.
898
00:50:05,369 --> 00:50:07,403
He's alone in a cage.
899
00:50:07,471 --> 00:50:12,508
We have to keep fighting.
We can't quit. We can't stop.
900
00:50:15,078 --> 00:50:18,180
On march 7th, 2008,
901
00:50:18,248 --> 00:50:20,082
we had our first hearing
in the case.
902
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:24,286
This is over three years
after we filed our motion.
903
00:50:26,656 --> 00:50:28,557
And I just thought
it would be a chance
904
00:50:28,625 --> 00:50:31,427
to make a record
about what was going on.
905
00:50:33,130 --> 00:50:34,697
And here's what I said,
906
00:50:36,433 --> 00:50:38,467
"Your honor,
there's a bloodstained bandana
907
00:50:38,535 --> 00:50:40,703
that was found
at the crime scene.
908
00:50:40,771 --> 00:50:43,572
This bandana may contain
the blood of the victim,
909
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:44,874
Christine Morton,
910
00:50:44,941 --> 00:50:46,442
but it may also contain
911
00:50:46,510 --> 00:50:49,311
skin cells, saliva, sweat
912
00:50:49,346 --> 00:50:52,114
that may contain
the DNA of the murderer.
913
00:50:52,182 --> 00:50:55,818
These have never been
subjected to DNA testing.
914
00:50:55,886 --> 00:50:59,922
There's no harm we believe
in trying to seek the truth,
915
00:51:00,057 --> 00:51:01,390
and we...
We don't understand
916
00:51:01,458 --> 00:51:03,759
why the state is resisting that.
917
00:51:03,827 --> 00:51:06,262
They have fought us
every step of the way.
918
00:51:08,131 --> 00:51:10,232
If there is not enough DNA
to do anything about it,
919
00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:13,536
at least we'll know we tried.
920
00:51:13,603 --> 00:51:15,671
Thank you, Judge."
921
00:51:18,842 --> 00:51:22,545
Well, the judge wouldn't do it.
922
00:51:25,549 --> 00:51:29,051
Because John Bradley
didn't want him to do it,
923
00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:30,753
it's that simple.
924
00:51:32,355 --> 00:51:35,124
Mr. Bradley didn't even speak
at the hearing.
925
00:51:35,158 --> 00:51:37,326
The fix was already in.
926
00:51:40,430 --> 00:51:42,231
John and I were sitting
at the breakfast table,
927
00:51:42,265 --> 00:51:45,167
reading the Houston newspaper
at breakfast
928
00:51:45,235 --> 00:51:46,802
and, we open up the...
The newspaper
929
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:50,106
and I saw it first
930
00:51:50,173 --> 00:51:51,340
and I almost had a heart attack.
931
00:51:51,374 --> 00:51:53,142
I was like, "John,
932
00:51:53,210 --> 00:51:56,712
Rick Perry just assigned a seat
933
00:51:56,780 --> 00:52:00,449
on the forensic science
commission to John Bradley."
934
00:52:06,456 --> 00:52:07,656
I couldn't believe it.
935
00:52:07,724 --> 00:52:09,458
I just could not
believe it that...
936
00:52:09,526 --> 00:52:12,328
That he was named to...
To be the chair,
937
00:52:12,395 --> 00:52:15,464
not only to throw him
on the commission that we'd...
938
00:52:15,499 --> 00:52:17,967
But then to name him as
the chair of the commission.
939
00:52:19,736 --> 00:52:22,872
See, this is the man
that won't let DNA be tested,
940
00:52:22,939 --> 00:52:24,507
won't...
Won't allow a DNA test
941
00:52:24,574 --> 00:52:26,308
and he's now the head
of our State's forensic,
942
00:52:26,376 --> 00:52:28,010
it just didn't make
any sense to me
943
00:52:28,044 --> 00:52:30,112
and then I knew how deep
the politics
944
00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:33,182
ran on this whole situation.
945
00:52:33,250 --> 00:52:35,050
This is, you know, all this...
946
00:52:35,118 --> 00:52:39,955
This political mishmash
and gamesmanship
947
00:52:40,023 --> 00:52:43,058
with people's lives at stake
and truth at stake.
948
00:52:46,830 --> 00:52:48,964
You know, there was a time,
949
00:52:48,999 --> 00:52:51,767
I... I've never told
anybody this
950
00:52:51,835 --> 00:52:55,171
and I don't know
that I should now,
951
00:52:55,238 --> 00:52:56,839
there was a time
in the middle of this
952
00:52:56,907 --> 00:53:00,009
that the civil work
was drying up
953
00:53:00,076 --> 00:53:03,145
and we were struggling
financially.
954
00:53:04,681 --> 00:53:07,850
And there was a real
temptation to focus
955
00:53:07,918 --> 00:53:09,618
on work that would bill,
956
00:53:09,653 --> 00:53:11,420
that I could make money
for the family
957
00:53:11,488 --> 00:53:15,024
and not spend so much time
on this pro bono case
958
00:53:15,091 --> 00:53:17,393
where we're up against it
959
00:53:17,427 --> 00:53:19,695
with these power structures
and it's not working out,
960
00:53:19,763 --> 00:53:21,297
nothing good is happening.
961
00:53:23,066 --> 00:53:26,168
And, uh, that was a temptation,
962
00:53:28,238 --> 00:53:30,272
but I was also praying
for guidance
963
00:53:30,340 --> 00:53:34,677
and direction
and the answer was always,
964
00:53:34,744 --> 00:53:37,046
"keep going."
965
00:53:39,416 --> 00:53:42,618
I tried talking to District
Attorney John Bradley again.
966
00:53:46,156 --> 00:53:48,791
He said he would allow us
to test the hair
967
00:53:48,858 --> 00:53:51,460
that was on Christine's hand
968
00:53:51,528 --> 00:53:54,029
if we backed off
on everything else,
969
00:53:54,064 --> 00:53:55,764
including the bloody bandana.
970
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,336
And I looked back
at District Attorney Bradley
971
00:54:00,403 --> 00:54:02,004
and I said, "No,
972
00:54:02,072 --> 00:54:04,306
how stupid do you think we are?
973
00:54:04,374 --> 00:54:06,675
The hair is probably Michael's.
974
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:08,444
The two of them
slept in that bed.
975
00:54:08,511 --> 00:54:11,513
More likely than not,
it's one of their hairs.
976
00:54:11,581 --> 00:54:14,316
But this is a case
about the bloody bandana.
977
00:54:14,384 --> 00:54:16,285
If you're not gonna let us
test the bloody bandana,
978
00:54:16,353 --> 00:54:19,021
we have nothing else to say."
979
00:54:19,089 --> 00:54:22,458
And he said,
"Well, then we're done."
980
00:54:22,525 --> 00:54:25,027
And maybe it's because
I had driven all the way
981
00:54:25,095 --> 00:54:28,264
from Houston to Georgetown
and maybe
982
00:54:28,331 --> 00:54:31,800
it's because I was tired
and maybe it's frustrating.
983
00:54:31,868 --> 00:54:33,669
But I said it loud enough
that everybody
984
00:54:33,737 --> 00:54:35,638
in his office could hear,
985
00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:39,174
"What are you afraid of?
986
00:54:41,578 --> 00:54:43,379
Let me turn it
on you Mr. Bradley,
987
00:54:43,413 --> 00:54:45,714
because what would you do
if the test results
988
00:54:45,782 --> 00:54:48,384
exonerated him
and identified someone else
989
00:54:48,451 --> 00:54:50,586
as the murderer of his wife,
990
00:54:50,654 --> 00:54:53,822
because I don't want to go
all Jack Nicholson on you,
991
00:54:53,890 --> 00:54:56,358
but I can handle the truth.
992
00:54:56,426 --> 00:54:58,894
Can you, sir?"
993
00:54:58,962 --> 00:55:01,096
And then, I left.
994
00:55:04,467 --> 00:55:08,404
He was afraid of the truth.
995
00:55:08,471 --> 00:55:10,406
He feared truth.
996
00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:18,914
I was seriously concerned
that day that...
997
00:55:18,982 --> 00:55:20,849
That he might actually
have a stroke or something.
998
00:55:20,917 --> 00:55:22,184
It was that bad.
I mean, his...
999
00:55:22,252 --> 00:55:24,987
His blood pressure
was so elevated
1000
00:55:25,055 --> 00:55:28,891
and he was so intensely angry
and I...
1001
00:55:28,925 --> 00:55:31,093
I just remember there was that
turning point where it was,
1002
00:55:31,161 --> 00:55:33,028
like this is gonna kill
my husband.
1003
00:55:43,173 --> 00:55:45,541
A few days later,
it's a Saturday morning.
1004
00:55:45,608 --> 00:55:47,376
I got a call.
1005
00:55:47,444 --> 00:55:48,477
It was Michael.
1006
00:55:49,713 --> 00:55:51,747
He said, "Well...
1007
00:55:51,815 --> 00:55:53,515
I'm up for parole again."
1008
00:55:54,617 --> 00:55:57,219
And I said, "That's great."
1009
00:55:57,253 --> 00:55:58,987
He says,
"There's just one catch."
1010
00:55:59,055 --> 00:56:01,090
"What?" I said, "What's the...
What's the catch?"
1011
00:56:01,157 --> 00:56:05,094
He says, "I have to confess
that I'm guilty of murder."
1012
00:56:09,032 --> 00:56:12,201
He's been in 22 years,
his parents were elderly.
1013
00:56:12,268 --> 00:56:13,869
He didn't know
where his son was.
1014
00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:17,773
Who would have really
blamed him if he'd said,
1015
00:56:17,841 --> 00:56:21,243
"Yeah, I'm guilty.
I'm really sorry, let me go."
1016
00:56:21,277 --> 00:56:22,644
He said...
1017
00:56:23,847 --> 00:56:26,515
"All I have left
is my actual innocence.
1018
00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:32,187
And if I have to be in prison
the rest of my life...
1019
00:56:33,623 --> 00:56:35,324
I'm not giving that up."
1020
00:56:42,866 --> 00:56:45,367
I didn't really
necessarily...
1021
00:56:45,435 --> 00:56:48,103
make a deal with God,
I wasn't gonna lie to get out.
1022
00:56:48,171 --> 00:56:49,371
But...
1023
00:56:50,807 --> 00:56:52,941
there was that, um...
1024
00:56:55,378 --> 00:56:57,846
That was there,
I wasn't gonna lie.
1025
00:56:57,914 --> 00:57:00,382
When he said this,
I just felt a rush of...
1026
00:57:02,018 --> 00:57:03,352
emotion.
1027
00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:04,920
And I said...
1028
00:57:06,122 --> 00:57:07,823
"I will never quit...
1029
00:57:10,894 --> 00:57:13,295
as long as I'm...
1030
00:57:13,363 --> 00:57:14,630
breathing air.
1031
00:57:16,065 --> 00:57:18,133
I'm fighting to get you
out of prison."
1032
00:57:30,447 --> 00:57:31,947
I was getting ready to go
into a hearing
1033
00:57:32,015 --> 00:57:33,449
against John Bradley.
1034
00:57:34,717 --> 00:57:37,653
And I call my pastor.
1035
00:57:37,687 --> 00:57:39,621
And I said,
1036
00:57:39,689 --> 00:57:41,490
"I don't think
I have a chance."
1037
00:57:44,194 --> 00:57:46,829
He said, "He's on it."
1038
00:57:46,896 --> 00:57:49,398
And he called me back
and he said,
1039
00:57:49,466 --> 00:57:52,668
"I have dozens of people that
are going to pray for you...
1040
00:57:52,735 --> 00:57:54,169
right now and at the moment
1041
00:57:54,237 --> 00:57:55,671
of the beginning of the hearing.
1042
00:57:55,738 --> 00:57:57,206
It's all organized."
1043
00:58:03,580 --> 00:58:05,180
He told me, "This is the most
important thing
1044
00:58:05,248 --> 00:58:06,915
you'll ever do as a lawyer."
1045
00:58:13,590 --> 00:58:16,458
We've been fighting this fight
for six years now.
1046
00:58:17,694 --> 00:58:20,629
We went to Federal Court once.
1047
00:58:20,697 --> 00:58:23,732
We've been to the
Court of Appeals twice.
1048
00:58:23,766 --> 00:58:26,201
So Nina Morrison, my co-counsel
1049
00:58:26,269 --> 00:58:27,970
with the Innocence Project and I
1050
00:58:28,037 --> 00:58:30,939
appear before the third
Court of Appeals
1051
00:58:31,007 --> 00:58:33,675
to make oral argument.
1052
00:58:33,743 --> 00:58:36,144
And it was a conservative
Court of Appeals...
1053
00:58:37,647 --> 00:58:40,449
was also a very intelligent
Court of Appeals,
1054
00:58:40,517 --> 00:58:42,618
and a fair-minded
Court of Appeals.
1055
00:58:43,753 --> 00:58:45,454
And it was so refreshing
1056
00:58:45,522 --> 00:58:47,189
to have fresh eyes on the case.
1057
00:58:49,759 --> 00:58:51,760
I said, "This bloody bandanna
1058
00:58:51,794 --> 00:58:54,062
was the be all and end all
about the case.
1059
00:58:54,130 --> 00:58:57,666
And there was no legal
basis to deny
1060
00:58:57,734 --> 00:58:59,167
testing of the bloody bandana.
1061
00:58:59,235 --> 00:59:01,436
None whatsoever."
1062
00:59:01,504 --> 00:59:04,506
They asked the question
that everybody seems to ask.
1063
00:59:05,942 --> 00:59:08,043
What if the DNA testing
comes out
1064
00:59:08,111 --> 00:59:09,444
against your client?
1065
00:59:11,014 --> 00:59:14,283
And I said, "There's only
one way to find out,
1066
00:59:14,350 --> 00:59:15,517
do the test."
1067
00:59:18,321 --> 00:59:21,690
While their deliberation
was pending,
1068
00:59:21,758 --> 00:59:24,593
John Bradley took to the media
1069
00:59:24,661 --> 00:59:26,895
and gave an interview.
1070
00:59:26,963 --> 00:59:28,697
And he said,
1071
00:59:28,798 --> 00:59:31,300
"If Michael Morton
will promise...
1072
00:59:33,069 --> 00:59:36,772
that if the DNA results
are inconclusive...
1073
00:59:38,107 --> 00:59:39,875
he will confess guilt..."
1074
00:59:41,844 --> 00:59:44,313
That I will agree now
to a DNA test.
1075
00:59:47,417 --> 00:59:51,787
Saying that if Michael agree
in advance to confess guilt,
1076
00:59:51,854 --> 00:59:55,691
if the DNA results
are inconclusive,
1077
00:59:55,758 --> 00:59:58,360
that's just playing
with people's futures.
1078
00:59:59,529 --> 01:00:00,963
Tyrants do that.
1079
01:00:03,499 --> 01:00:07,235
I thought we have fought
too hard
1080
01:00:07,303 --> 01:00:11,873
and we've come too far
to get to this moment
1081
01:00:11,941 --> 01:00:13,875
and have it taken away.
1082
01:00:15,578 --> 01:00:18,747
And I said, "Judge,
we're paying for this.
1083
01:00:18,815 --> 01:00:21,216
All we want to know
is the truth.
1084
01:00:22,752 --> 01:00:26,688
And so despite
DA Bradley's efforts,
1085
01:00:26,756 --> 01:00:30,759
the Court of Appeals ruled
that we could do DNA testing
1086
01:00:30,827 --> 01:00:32,127
on the bloody bandanna.
1087
01:00:39,636 --> 01:00:41,637
June of 2011,
1088
01:00:41,704 --> 01:00:43,872
the first set
of test results came in...
1089
01:00:45,408 --> 01:00:48,310
and they revealed that
the blood on the bandanna
1090
01:00:48,378 --> 01:00:52,314
was Christine Morton's...
1091
01:00:52,382 --> 01:00:56,518
intermingled with the sweat
and the skin cells
1092
01:00:56,586 --> 01:01:01,189
of a man who was not
Michael Morton.
1093
01:01:15,805 --> 01:01:20,409
My phone rang
while I was on a bus,
1094
01:01:20,476 --> 01:01:22,778
and John was just elated.
1095
01:01:22,845 --> 01:01:25,614
He was shouting,
"They got a hit."
1096
01:01:28,217 --> 01:01:31,019
After... When we got
the first set of results,
1097
01:01:31,054 --> 01:01:34,856
I drove to visit Michael
in prison.
1098
01:01:34,924 --> 01:01:38,527
John Raley told me
about the hit
1099
01:01:38,594 --> 01:01:40,395
and...
1100
01:01:40,463 --> 01:01:42,864
didn't have any specifics
or any names yet.
1101
01:01:42,899 --> 01:01:44,433
But bingo.
1102
01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:47,669
I bounced off the walls
a couple of times.
1103
01:01:47,737 --> 01:01:49,838
I stood up, I sat down,
and finally the told me,
1104
01:01:49,906 --> 01:01:52,808
"Okay. Take a breath."
1105
01:01:52,875 --> 01:01:54,543
I didn't know how long
things were gonna take
1106
01:01:54,610 --> 01:01:57,312
is probably gonna be six,
nine months something.
1107
01:01:58,781 --> 01:02:02,718
Now, we have to run
the DNA results
1108
01:02:02,785 --> 01:02:07,055
on the man through
the federal CODIS databank
1109
01:02:07,123 --> 01:02:09,758
to see if we get a hit
on a known perpetrator.
1110
01:02:17,867 --> 01:02:19,568
The hit came in.
1111
01:02:19,635 --> 01:02:21,670
The DNA of the man
on the bandanna
1112
01:02:21,738 --> 01:02:24,039
is Mark Alan Norwood.
1113
01:02:24,107 --> 01:02:28,410
Who had been in and out
of prison for years.
1114
01:02:28,478 --> 01:02:31,113
So an innocent man is in prison
1115
01:02:31,180 --> 01:02:32,514
and a murderer is out there.
1116
01:02:34,550 --> 01:02:36,885
And District Attorney,
John Bradley,
1117
01:02:36,919 --> 01:02:39,387
is still fighting against
the release of Michael Morton
1118
01:02:39,455 --> 01:02:40,956
saying the bandanna
doesn't matter
1119
01:02:40,990 --> 01:02:43,658
thinking of goofy theories.
1120
01:02:43,726 --> 01:02:46,328
Like maybe Michael
killed Christine
1121
01:02:46,395 --> 01:02:49,131
and then went out and found
a bandanna out back,
1122
01:02:49,165 --> 01:02:51,066
and then brought it in
and dipped
1123
01:02:51,134 --> 01:02:52,534
Christine's blood in it,
1124
01:02:52,568 --> 01:02:54,536
and then maybe wearing gloves
at the time,
1125
01:02:54,604 --> 01:02:56,304
and then took it back
and dropped it again,
1126
01:02:56,372 --> 01:02:59,074
or maybe aliens abducted him.
1127
01:02:59,142 --> 01:03:02,344
I... You know,
it was just crazy stuff.
1128
01:03:03,446 --> 01:03:04,980
Amazing, isn't it?
1129
01:03:07,517 --> 01:03:09,084
But the momentum increased.
1130
01:03:24,467 --> 01:03:26,635
Our freedom
of information act
1131
01:03:26,702 --> 01:03:29,437
request for the district
attorney's complete file
1132
01:03:29,505 --> 01:03:30,972
was a game-changer.
1133
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,474
It changed everything.
1134
01:03:34,277 --> 01:03:38,046
When I was able to finally
get my hands on the file,
1135
01:03:38,114 --> 01:03:41,516
I saw that the evidence
of Michael's innocence
1136
01:03:41,584 --> 01:03:43,451
was in the district
attorney's file
1137
01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:44,986
and had been concealed.
1138
01:03:49,592 --> 01:03:51,960
There was a big
footprint in the mud there
1139
01:03:52,028 --> 01:03:55,163
that nobody had ever done
a plaster cast of later.
1140
01:03:57,433 --> 01:03:59,301
There were strange fingerprints
1141
01:03:59,368 --> 01:04:01,303
on the sliding glass door.
1142
01:04:01,370 --> 01:04:03,605
Nobody ever ran those prints.
1143
01:04:03,673 --> 01:04:06,708
There was a sighting
of a strange man
1144
01:04:06,776 --> 01:04:09,544
in a green van during the days
1145
01:04:09,612 --> 01:04:11,213
before the murder,
1146
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,549
in the area where the bloody
bandanna was found,
1147
01:04:14,617 --> 01:04:16,585
and they don't follow the lead?
1148
01:04:18,754 --> 01:04:21,356
Another piece of evidence
that was concealed
1149
01:04:21,424 --> 01:04:26,161
and this is crucial
and absolutely heartbreaking.
1150
01:04:26,229 --> 01:04:29,831
Eric talked to his maternal
grandmother,
1151
01:04:29,932 --> 01:04:31,333
Christine's mother,
1152
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,435
on the day
of Christine's funeral.
1153
01:04:36,172 --> 01:04:39,140
She wrote down verbatim
what Eric told her.
1154
01:05:41,337 --> 01:05:43,605
And then the key portion.
1155
01:05:56,519 --> 01:05:58,286
This was in their file.
1156
01:06:00,656 --> 01:06:02,924
And they concealed it...
1157
01:06:02,992 --> 01:06:06,094
from the defense,
from the court,
1158
01:06:06,162 --> 01:06:07,295
and from the jury.
1159
01:06:08,764 --> 01:06:12,334
They knew,
they knew he was innocent.
1160
01:06:12,401 --> 01:06:16,838
And they sent an innocent man
to prison for life...
1161
01:06:16,906 --> 01:06:19,140
and they let the monster
who killed his wife
1162
01:06:19,208 --> 01:06:21,943
go free to kill again.
1163
01:06:28,284 --> 01:06:29,584
We have a tiny
little law firm
1164
01:06:29,652 --> 01:06:31,753
and everybody was involved
in the case
1165
01:06:31,821 --> 01:06:34,522
in one way or another
trying to help.
1166
01:06:34,590 --> 01:06:38,526
We'd been investigating
Mark Alan Norwood.
1167
01:06:38,594 --> 01:06:41,696
We are not law enforcement,
but we're finding ourselves
1168
01:06:41,764 --> 01:06:44,532
kind of being
like law enforcement.
1169
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,168
We wanted to see if
there were other cold cases
1170
01:06:47,236 --> 01:06:50,071
that lined up
with Christine Morton's.
1171
01:06:50,139 --> 01:06:54,075
There's a cold case website
for unsolved murders.
1172
01:06:54,143 --> 01:06:58,346
My wife, Kelly, had found it
a couple of years earlier.
1173
01:06:58,414 --> 01:07:02,550
A couple of paralegals
from our firm,
1174
01:07:02,618 --> 01:07:04,252
Cynthia Martinez and Kay Canobie
1175
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,388
were playing around
with this website.
1176
01:07:08,424 --> 01:07:10,558
Well, I feel like
1177
01:07:10,626 --> 01:07:13,895
I've always had some
sort of like...
1178
01:07:13,963 --> 01:07:17,699
private investigator-ish
type of personality
1179
01:07:17,767 --> 01:07:20,502
and my parents always
just said that I was nosy.
1180
01:07:22,738 --> 01:07:25,840
We were searching cold cases
in Travis County
1181
01:07:25,908 --> 01:07:28,510
and just scrolling
through the pages
1182
01:07:28,577 --> 01:07:32,514
and then we came across
a lady that looked
1183
01:07:32,581 --> 01:07:34,349
very similar to Christine Morton
1184
01:07:34,417 --> 01:07:36,718
and her name
was Debra Jan Baker.
1185
01:07:38,421 --> 01:07:42,357
Debra Jean Baker
had been bludgeoned to death
1186
01:07:42,458 --> 01:07:46,094
in her home in a very similar
way to Christine Morton.
1187
01:07:50,299 --> 01:07:52,934
And we found out
where Mark Alan Norwood
1188
01:07:53,002 --> 01:07:56,137
was living in Austin at the time
1189
01:07:56,205 --> 01:07:59,641
of Christine Morton's murder.
1190
01:07:59,708 --> 01:08:02,577
So I thought let's compare
Ms. Baker's address
1191
01:08:02,611 --> 01:08:04,312
to Mr. Norwood's address
1192
01:08:04,380 --> 01:08:07,015
and see how far apart
their houses are.
1193
01:08:07,083 --> 01:08:08,983
And in turned out,
1194
01:08:09,051 --> 01:08:11,586
their houses
were one street apart.
1195
01:08:14,523 --> 01:08:16,357
And their...
The backs of their houses
1196
01:08:16,425 --> 01:08:18,026
kind of faced to each other,
they were just kind of like
1197
01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:20,528
diagonally across
from each other.
1198
01:08:20,596 --> 01:08:22,964
So they were very close.
1199
01:08:22,998 --> 01:08:25,467
I mean that kind of,
was like, you know,
1200
01:08:25,534 --> 01:08:26,634
that was big for us.
1201
01:08:26,702 --> 01:08:27,669
We felt like it was big.
1202
01:08:27,736 --> 01:08:29,370
We didn't know at that time
1203
01:08:29,438 --> 01:08:31,106
how big it was gonna be but...
1204
01:08:33,542 --> 01:08:35,643
And we thought, "Oh, my God.
1205
01:08:36,912 --> 01:08:39,481
We have to...
We have to tell someone.
1206
01:08:39,515 --> 01:08:40,982
We have to tell
law enforcement."
1207
01:08:42,251 --> 01:08:44,152
And so we found that...
1208
01:08:44,220 --> 01:08:48,022
that Debra Jan Baker
was killed in Travis County.
1209
01:08:48,090 --> 01:08:49,524
We didn't trust
the District Attorney
1210
01:08:49,592 --> 01:08:52,026
of Williamson County,
but maybe we can tell
1211
01:08:52,094 --> 01:08:54,362
the District Attorney
of Travis County.
1212
01:08:57,466 --> 01:08:59,901
Nina Morrison and I
went together
1213
01:09:00,035 --> 01:09:02,570
to the District Attorney
and, uh,
1214
01:09:02,638 --> 01:09:04,572
I remember it was a very hot day
1215
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,174
and we had to walk
about a half a mile
1216
01:09:06,242 --> 01:09:07,375
before we got there.
1217
01:09:07,443 --> 01:09:09,878
We came in drenched with sweat.
1218
01:09:09,945 --> 01:09:11,579
And all these nice people
were waiting for us
1219
01:09:11,647 --> 01:09:13,248
in this conference room.
1220
01:09:15,384 --> 01:09:17,085
John was very passionate.
1221
01:09:17,153 --> 01:09:19,154
You could tell that he...
1222
01:09:19,221 --> 01:09:21,089
he knew...
1223
01:09:21,157 --> 01:09:24,058
that Michael Morton
was innocent.
1224
01:09:24,126 --> 01:09:27,395
And it made me sick
to my stomach.
1225
01:09:27,463 --> 01:09:29,998
So my primary goal
1226
01:09:30,065 --> 01:09:33,568
was to solve
the Debra Baker case.
1227
01:09:33,636 --> 01:09:35,003
We were able to go back,
1228
01:09:35,070 --> 01:09:36,204
comb through the evidence we had
1229
01:09:36,272 --> 01:09:38,239
in the Debra Baker case
1230
01:09:38,307 --> 01:09:40,475
and we had identified
pubic hairs
1231
01:09:40,543 --> 01:09:42,377
that were found
on the pink comforter...
1232
01:09:46,615 --> 01:09:49,450
and the blue towel
from the bathroom.
1233
01:09:51,287 --> 01:09:54,088
And had them sent off
to the laboratory,
1234
01:09:54,156 --> 01:09:56,324
which revealed that...
1235
01:09:56,392 --> 01:10:00,828
we definitively had
identified Mark Alan Norwood
1236
01:10:00,896 --> 01:10:03,698
as being the perpetrator
1237
01:10:03,732 --> 01:10:05,733
in the death of Debra Baker.
1238
01:10:09,205 --> 01:10:11,573
I remember saying...
1239
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,408
"Oh, wow, this is it."
1240
01:10:13,475 --> 01:10:15,076
An innocent man in prison,
1241
01:10:15,144 --> 01:10:17,512
a murderer out there.
1242
01:10:18,614 --> 01:10:20,348
There's no feeling like that.
1243
01:10:22,451 --> 01:10:23,918
Norwood lived
with his mom,
1244
01:10:23,986 --> 01:10:25,720
we figured out where he lived,
1245
01:10:25,754 --> 01:10:27,755
and we informed the detectives
1246
01:10:27,823 --> 01:10:28,890
who paid him a visit.
1247
01:11:21,377 --> 01:11:23,544
Today, the Williamson County
Sheriff's office has arrested
1248
01:11:23,646 --> 01:11:25,813
Mark Alan Norwood for the murder
1249
01:11:25,881 --> 01:11:27,215
of Christine Morton,
1250
01:11:27,249 --> 01:11:29,884
which occurred
on August 13th, 1986.
1251
01:11:34,723 --> 01:11:37,225
There's so much...
so much joy
1252
01:11:37,293 --> 01:11:40,295
and so much peace
that comes over you,
1253
01:11:40,362 --> 01:11:42,497
that they had found
the other killer,
1254
01:11:42,564 --> 01:11:43,965
that proved to me that day
1255
01:11:43,999 --> 01:11:46,434
that there is a God
and a Holy Spirit
1256
01:11:46,502 --> 01:11:48,102
looking down over us.
1257
01:11:50,272 --> 01:11:52,040
We were very happy about that,
1258
01:11:52,107 --> 01:11:55,677
but the Baker family
deserved justice.
1259
01:11:55,744 --> 01:11:58,313
This is about them too.
1260
01:11:58,380 --> 01:12:00,281
That was it.
It's finally like, okay.
1261
01:12:00,316 --> 01:12:02,050
They're actually looking
at this again,
1262
01:12:02,117 --> 01:12:04,585
they're actually got do
something about this.
1263
01:12:07,056 --> 01:12:08,523
We got word
that Ken Anderson
1264
01:12:08,557 --> 01:12:10,291
was gonna do a press conference.
1265
01:12:10,359 --> 01:12:12,627
I went, "Oh, gotta go...
gotta go to this thing,"
1266
01:12:12,695 --> 01:12:14,462
and we booked it up
to Georgetown
1267
01:12:14,530 --> 01:12:15,963
and my aunt met me there.
1268
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,767
And, it was just a small crowd,
1269
01:12:19,835 --> 01:12:21,703
it was mostly just reporters
and Ken Anderson said,
1270
01:12:21,770 --> 01:12:23,638
"The system got it wrong."
1271
01:12:23,706 --> 01:12:25,340
In my heart,
1272
01:12:25,407 --> 01:12:28,609
I know there was no misconduct
whatsoever.
1273
01:12:28,677 --> 01:12:30,211
I believe that the prosecutors
1274
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:32,680
fully complied with all
the orders of the court.
1275
01:12:32,715 --> 01:12:34,916
When Ken went inside,
he didn't take any questions
1276
01:12:34,983 --> 01:12:37,018
that I remember,
but I looked up for my phone,
1277
01:12:37,052 --> 01:12:38,453
,
1278
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,088
I'm surrounded and cornered...
1279
01:12:40,155 --> 01:12:42,357
Literally cornered by reporters
1280
01:12:42,424 --> 01:12:44,459
and I feel like
being in a zombie movie
1281
01:12:44,526 --> 01:12:47,161
when they've just crawling
on top of me.
1282
01:12:49,331 --> 01:12:51,833
He's not holding himself
accountable.
1283
01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:53,601
He's making a lot of excuses.
1284
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:56,571
The fact that he let a man
1285
01:12:56,638 --> 01:12:59,073
go to kill my mother is...
more than enough reason.
1286
01:12:59,141 --> 01:13:01,376
I mean, if he really
feels bad, he should resign.
1287
01:13:01,443 --> 01:13:03,277
Prove it and resign
1288
01:13:03,345 --> 01:13:05,279
and retire to Florida somewhere.
1289
01:13:05,314 --> 01:13:06,914
Everything we do
has consequences
1290
01:13:06,982 --> 01:13:08,750
and that's one of the
consequences of what he did
1291
01:13:08,817 --> 01:13:10,785
was that a killer was out there.
1292
01:13:10,853 --> 01:13:12,854
You can't play
the what-if game forever,
1293
01:13:12,921 --> 01:13:14,922
but if I'm gonna play it
right there if...
1294
01:13:14,990 --> 01:13:18,259
What if Michael had not been
the prime suspect
1295
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:19,994
and the only suspect
that we know of.
1296
01:13:21,463 --> 01:13:22,964
Mom could've still been alive
1297
01:13:23,031 --> 01:13:25,466
if he hadn't done some
of the things he'd done.
1298
01:13:25,534 --> 01:13:27,635
So I do still, to this day,
1299
01:13:27,703 --> 01:13:30,405
hold Ken Anderson
was responsible for that.
1300
01:13:36,011 --> 01:13:37,044
Yes.
1301
01:13:39,214 --> 01:13:40,681
Yes. I do believe that.
1302
01:13:40,749 --> 01:13:42,350
I think if they had followed
their leads,
1303
01:13:42,384 --> 01:13:45,052
they would've had Norwood
within a few weeks.
1304
01:13:48,857 --> 01:13:52,193
After the Baker case,
and that hit,
1305
01:13:52,261 --> 01:13:55,696
the state had no place else
to maneuver.
1306
01:13:55,764 --> 01:13:57,365
The court of public opinion
1307
01:13:57,399 --> 01:13:59,667
is becoming
squarely against them.
1308
01:13:59,735 --> 01:14:01,836
The news media
is picking up that...
1309
01:14:01,904 --> 01:14:04,472
There are these DNA hits
and people were asking
1310
01:14:04,540 --> 01:14:06,941
why is Michael Morton
still in prison?
1311
01:14:07,009 --> 01:14:08,476
On Monday,
Bradley, who was not
1312
01:14:08,544 --> 01:14:10,445
the original
prosecuting attorney,
1313
01:14:10,512 --> 01:14:13,848
dodged questions about why?
1314
01:14:13,916 --> 01:14:17,418
So, we were able to negotiate...
1315
01:14:18,420 --> 01:14:19,987
his release.
1316
01:14:31,967 --> 01:14:34,368
It was, uh,
somewhat chaotic.
1317
01:14:34,436 --> 01:14:37,538
There was a precession,
cameras were everywhere,
1318
01:14:37,606 --> 01:14:39,774
people, I didn't know
which way we were going.
1319
01:14:41,877 --> 01:14:43,978
Fortunately the sun was
beaming down right there
1320
01:14:44,046 --> 01:14:47,014
and it was just beautiful,
kind of fall day.
1321
01:14:48,484 --> 01:14:50,251
The sun felt so good on my face.
1322
01:14:50,319 --> 01:14:53,588
I kinda tilt my head back
like of getting a sun tan
1323
01:14:53,655 --> 01:14:56,491
or something
trying to just drink it in.
1324
01:14:58,494 --> 01:15:01,062
And he said the colors
were so bright.
1325
01:15:01,129 --> 01:15:03,030
And it was so beautiful.
1326
01:15:03,098 --> 01:15:06,167
It was one of those
lifetime moments
1327
01:15:06,235 --> 01:15:09,036
that you cherish, forever.
1328
01:15:09,104 --> 01:15:11,572
He's not on anybody's payroll.
1329
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,708
I had no money to give him
1330
01:15:13,775 --> 01:15:18,012
to publicly broadcast
good things about you that say
1331
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,580
you know, this is a...
1332
01:15:23,619 --> 01:15:26,087
To this day...
1333
01:15:27,723 --> 01:15:29,423
He's my friend...
1334
01:15:31,727 --> 01:15:33,728
and he's my brother.
1335
01:15:33,795 --> 01:15:37,665
So we made arrangements
to meet for dinner later...
1336
01:15:39,167 --> 01:15:43,437
and we sat over dinner,
we had... He had a steak.
1337
01:15:43,505 --> 01:15:46,440
And I remember that he was
having his knife and fork,
1338
01:15:46,508 --> 01:15:48,476
and he was kind of, like...
1339
01:15:48,544 --> 01:15:50,811
And I said, "You okay, man?"
1340
01:15:50,879 --> 01:15:53,414
He was, "I'm trying
to remember how to do this.
1341
01:15:55,050 --> 01:15:57,418
I haven't held a knife
and a fork for 25 years."
1342
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,121
Reagan was president
when he went in,
1343
01:16:00,188 --> 01:16:01,622
he'd never held a cell phone.
1344
01:16:01,657 --> 01:16:03,291
And we're telling him
about cell phones, like...
1345
01:16:03,358 --> 01:16:04,792
He goes, "I heard about these.
1346
01:16:04,860 --> 01:16:06,827
I heard you can send
a picture."
1347
01:16:06,895 --> 01:16:09,797
And he said, "A picture?"
1348
01:16:09,865 --> 01:16:13,734
They go, "Michael,
you can send a movie."
1349
01:16:15,837 --> 01:16:17,572
Can you imagine?
1350
01:16:22,711 --> 01:16:24,779
My role in this case
was that, um,
1351
01:16:24,846 --> 01:16:26,213
I'm an Assistant
Attorney General
1352
01:16:26,281 --> 01:16:27,515
for the state of Texas
1353
01:16:27,583 --> 01:16:29,951
and so I was brought in
to prosecute
1354
01:16:30,018 --> 01:16:31,552
the Mark Norwood case.
1355
01:16:37,059 --> 01:16:39,160
When all of this began...
1356
01:16:40,963 --> 01:16:44,265
there was the investigation
into Christine's murder.
1357
01:16:44,333 --> 01:16:47,335
Separate and apart
from that was the realization
1358
01:16:47,402 --> 01:16:49,971
that there was another murder,
Debra Baker's murder,
1359
01:16:50,038 --> 01:16:52,173
that bore striking similarities
1360
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,775
that may very well be connected.
1361
01:16:54,843 --> 01:16:56,978
I didn't know
at that point in time
1362
01:16:57,045 --> 01:17:00,114
whether or not Debra's case
would be tried.
1363
01:17:03,919 --> 01:17:06,654
When we met
with the DA's office
1364
01:17:06,688 --> 01:17:08,656
and they said,
1365
01:17:08,724 --> 01:17:11,459
"You know, we don't think
we necessarily wanna do this.
1366
01:17:11,493 --> 01:17:14,061
Just be taxpayer paying
for another trial.
1367
01:17:14,129 --> 01:17:16,330
I was livid
1368
01:17:16,398 --> 01:17:19,266
and we all made it very clear
1369
01:17:19,334 --> 01:17:21,135
that this was not gonna fly.
1370
01:17:21,203 --> 01:17:24,338
This is not gonna happen
because we wanted mom
1371
01:17:24,406 --> 01:17:27,008
to have her own story
that she was...
1372
01:17:27,075 --> 01:17:30,711
she was not just
a murder victim.
1373
01:17:30,779 --> 01:17:32,913
And one of my classes
that was taught
1374
01:17:32,981 --> 01:17:37,251
by Travis County Sheriff,
he kept...
1375
01:17:37,319 --> 01:17:38,586
He was talking about it
and he kept saying,
1376
01:17:38,654 --> 01:17:39,854
"There's this other woman."
1377
01:17:39,888 --> 01:17:42,056
I was like, "No.
Her name was Debra."
1378
01:17:42,124 --> 01:17:44,191
And he said, "Who cares?"
1379
01:17:44,226 --> 01:17:45,760
I do. I do.
1380
01:17:45,827 --> 01:17:47,228
I am her daughter, I care.
1381
01:17:51,233 --> 01:17:52,900
We can't stop what happened
1382
01:17:52,968 --> 01:17:55,236
and the only thing you can do
for someone at that point
1383
01:17:55,303 --> 01:17:57,938
is to keep fighting for them
1384
01:17:58,006 --> 01:18:00,408
to get what they deserve
in the end,
1385
01:18:00,475 --> 01:18:03,644
which in this case is a...
is a trial and a conviction.
1386
01:18:15,657 --> 01:18:18,959
I don't see evil
very much in my life.
1387
01:18:24,666 --> 01:18:27,535
When Mark Alan Norwood
walked into the courtroom,
1388
01:18:27,602 --> 01:18:31,105
I saw him and I realized...
1389
01:18:31,173 --> 01:18:32,707
that's what it looks like.
1390
01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:36,944
That's evil.
1391
01:18:37,012 --> 01:18:39,480
The ironies are so vast
in this case
1392
01:18:39,548 --> 01:18:42,316
that the first time
Michael was in a courtroom,
1393
01:18:42,384 --> 01:18:43,718
he was the guy on trial,
1394
01:18:43,785 --> 01:18:45,119
and the second time
he was in the courtroom,
1395
01:18:45,187 --> 01:18:46,587
he was my first witness.
1396
01:18:47,956 --> 01:18:49,990
It was very, very surreal.
1397
01:18:50,058 --> 01:18:53,327
As you might imagine.
1398
01:18:53,395 --> 01:18:57,698
It was no secret that whoever
was gonna try Mark Norwood
1399
01:18:57,733 --> 01:19:00,267
for one of the murders
would probably want
1400
01:19:00,335 --> 01:19:02,603
to let the jury know
about the other murder
1401
01:19:02,671 --> 01:19:07,108
just because it helps you know
that it is the right guy.
1402
01:19:08,610 --> 01:19:10,945
We had to basically prove up
1403
01:19:11,012 --> 01:19:12,947
the entire Debra Baker
murder case
1404
01:19:13,014 --> 01:19:14,348
during our trials,
1405
01:19:14,416 --> 01:19:18,786
we essentially had
two trials altogether.
1406
01:19:18,854 --> 01:19:23,357
The similarities between
the two cases were striking.
1407
01:19:23,425 --> 01:19:27,795
And I believe I listed 16
different similarities.
1408
01:19:27,829 --> 01:19:29,663
Debra Baker and Christine Morton
1409
01:19:29,731 --> 01:19:32,967
were both 33-year-old women
with long dark hair
1410
01:19:33,034 --> 01:19:35,603
who had children,
who were at home in bed.
1411
01:19:35,670 --> 01:19:38,139
They were both in water beds,
which seemed odd.
1412
01:19:39,708 --> 01:19:42,276
They were both murdered
on the 13th of the month.
1413
01:19:44,379 --> 01:19:46,847
They were both murdered
on a Wednesday,
1414
01:19:46,915 --> 01:19:48,549
they were both murdered
in the early morning
1415
01:19:48,617 --> 01:19:50,651
or late hours.
1416
01:19:50,719 --> 01:19:53,320
Both of their homes,
there was evidence
1417
01:19:53,388 --> 01:19:55,623
that showed that a perpetrator
1418
01:19:55,690 --> 01:19:57,391
had come over a back fence.
1419
01:19:59,127 --> 01:20:03,464
They were both struck
by a blunt object in the head
1420
01:20:03,532 --> 01:20:05,266
multiple times.
1421
01:20:05,333 --> 01:20:09,003
They both had items piled
on the top of their heads
1422
01:20:09,070 --> 01:20:12,406
after they were murdered
as if to hide their faces.
1423
01:20:13,942 --> 01:20:16,811
Both houses had...
1424
01:20:16,878 --> 01:20:19,213
valuable jewelry
out in plain view
1425
01:20:19,281 --> 01:20:21,615
that was not disturbed.
1426
01:20:21,650 --> 01:20:23,751
I mean it goes on and on,
the two crime scenes
1427
01:20:23,819 --> 01:20:27,354
were remarkably similar.
1428
01:20:29,090 --> 01:20:31,625
But the biggest thing was
is that Mark Norwood's DNA
1429
01:20:31,693 --> 01:20:34,094
was at both of those two scenes.
1430
01:20:37,766 --> 01:20:39,166
We've never afforded
an opportunity
1431
01:20:39,234 --> 01:20:40,601
to sit down
with Mark Alan Norwood
1432
01:20:40,669 --> 01:20:42,403
to determine
why he had committed
1433
01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:43,971
this brutal murders.
1434
01:20:46,141 --> 01:20:49,710
I believe Mark Norwood
is a serial killer
1435
01:20:49,744 --> 01:20:52,713
and there are probably
other crimes
1436
01:20:52,781 --> 01:20:54,882
that he committed that we just,
1437
01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:58,853
as investigators have not
connected him to yet.
1438
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,923
Mark Alan Norwood
was convicted of the murder
1439
01:21:02,991 --> 01:21:06,927
of Michael Morton's wife
Christine
1440
01:21:06,995 --> 01:21:09,230
and Debra Jan Baker.
1441
01:21:09,297 --> 01:21:10,898
Two convictions.
1442
01:21:10,932 --> 01:21:12,700
Two life sentences.
1443
01:21:20,075 --> 01:21:22,276
And it was...
1444
01:21:22,344 --> 01:21:23,777
I don't even wanna say
it was a relief,
1445
01:21:23,845 --> 01:21:26,513
because it just... It...
1446
01:21:26,581 --> 01:21:27,915
I don't know
that there's an emotion
1447
01:21:27,983 --> 01:21:30,284
you can assign to it.
1448
01:21:30,352 --> 01:21:32,686
I was holding hands
with my husband,
1449
01:21:32,754 --> 01:21:35,623
I hugged my brother,
hugged my dad...
1450
01:21:35,690 --> 01:21:37,892
and I don't know.
1451
01:21:40,996 --> 01:21:42,296
It's an end to something
1452
01:21:42,364 --> 01:21:44,665
that had just always
been there for me
1453
01:21:44,733 --> 01:21:47,568
so I don't know
how to describe it really.
1454
01:21:49,571 --> 01:21:52,139
I am sitting outside
on the steps,
1455
01:21:52,207 --> 01:21:54,942
crying and releasing that,
you know,
1456
01:21:54,976 --> 01:21:57,745
finally realizing
that we had done
1457
01:21:57,812 --> 01:22:00,147
everything we could do
for Debbie.
1458
01:22:00,215 --> 01:22:03,017
It was a great sense of relief,
1459
01:22:03,084 --> 01:22:05,085
a great sense of justice.
1460
01:22:05,153 --> 01:22:06,687
You know, for so many years,
1461
01:22:06,755 --> 01:22:10,190
our family
was completely broken.
1462
01:22:10,258 --> 01:22:12,259
And we'd go through
the motions but, you know,
1463
01:22:12,327 --> 01:22:14,328
we were all broken inside.
1464
01:22:14,396 --> 01:22:16,530
I can't tell you.
1465
01:22:16,598 --> 01:22:19,667
I can't put into words
what that day was like.
1466
01:22:19,734 --> 01:22:23,671
It was like, finally,
some satisfaction
1467
01:22:23,738 --> 01:22:25,039
knowing that he's gonna spend
1468
01:22:25,106 --> 01:22:27,508
the rest of his life in prison.
1469
01:22:27,575 --> 01:22:31,345
And we actually,
actually began to heal.
1470
01:22:44,592 --> 01:22:47,428
It took 25 years
1471
01:22:47,495 --> 01:22:50,364
for the arc
of the moral universe
1472
01:22:50,432 --> 01:22:52,333
to bend toward justice.
1473
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,736
In fighting
to free Michael Morton,
1474
01:22:55,804 --> 01:22:58,839
we felt that we were part
of a tradition
1475
01:22:58,907 --> 01:23:01,809
of lawyers in America
1476
01:23:01,876 --> 01:23:06,313
who stood for justice
against strong forces.
1477
01:23:07,716 --> 01:23:09,817
We spoke truth to power...
1478
01:23:11,386 --> 01:23:14,021
and we were honored to do so.
1479
01:23:14,089 --> 01:23:15,356
This story is not over.
1480
01:23:15,423 --> 01:23:17,558
The investigation is continuing
1481
01:23:17,625 --> 01:23:20,761
about the concealing
of this evidence
1482
01:23:20,829 --> 01:23:22,730
that should have
exonerated Michael
1483
01:23:22,797 --> 01:23:24,498
almost 25 years ago.
1484
01:23:29,804 --> 01:23:33,073
There are many happy
moments for me in this case.
1485
01:23:33,141 --> 01:23:35,442
For me, personally.
1486
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:38,412
The reunion of Michael
and Eric was in my house.
1487
01:23:41,049 --> 01:23:42,216
I noticed
that our shoes
1488
01:23:42,250 --> 01:23:43,717
were disturbingly similar.
1489
01:23:44,719 --> 01:23:46,754
We both had on new blue jeans.
1490
01:23:46,821 --> 01:23:49,123
When we held our heads,
our gates as we walked
1491
01:23:49,190 --> 01:23:54,495
were eerily similar and...
1492
01:23:54,529 --> 01:23:56,196
The genes are there.
1493
01:23:57,766 --> 01:23:59,533
There was
this longest silence...
1494
01:23:59,601 --> 01:24:02,970
The longest silence
and then I kept listening
1495
01:24:03,038 --> 01:24:04,638
like because...
I was within ear-shot
1496
01:24:04,706 --> 01:24:07,841
and I kept thinking,
"What? Are they whispering?"
1497
01:24:10,145 --> 01:24:11,478
We shook hands
immediately,
1498
01:24:11,546 --> 01:24:13,480
but that morphed into a hug.
1499
01:24:13,548 --> 01:24:16,650
It was like this melding,
we just came back.
1500
01:24:18,286 --> 01:24:21,622
It's just as natural as that,
1501
01:24:21,689 --> 01:24:24,725
and I couldn't have
planned it any better.
1502
01:24:27,262 --> 01:24:29,296
And Michael said,
"Son."
1503
01:24:31,066 --> 01:24:33,667
And Eric said, "Dad."
1504
01:24:33,735 --> 01:24:35,936
And I think just for a second...
1505
01:24:37,505 --> 01:24:40,140
I got a glimpse
of what heaven must be like.
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