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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,848 --> 00:00:16,715 Topping the news, a brutal slaying 2 00:00:16,783 --> 00:00:19,284 in Williamson County has investigators puzzled. 3 00:00:23,857 --> 00:00:26,859 There should not be any opposition 4 00:00:26,926 --> 00:00:28,227 to an honest search for truth. 5 00:00:30,964 --> 00:00:32,231 It was beastly. 6 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:37,169 It wasn't fully human. 7 00:00:37,237 --> 00:00:39,705 There's a lot of things at that scene 8 00:00:39,773 --> 00:00:41,774 that makes an investigator wonder 9 00:00:41,841 --> 00:00:44,176 is it someone close to them? 10 00:00:44,244 --> 00:00:45,711 Austin wasn't the kind of place 11 00:00:45,779 --> 00:00:48,347 you locked your doors and stuff. 12 00:00:48,415 --> 00:00:49,715 The why and the who 13 00:00:49,783 --> 00:00:52,651 were just big open-ended glaring questions. 14 00:00:52,685 --> 00:00:55,521 You can't have two identical murders 15 00:00:55,588 --> 00:00:59,725 and not see the relevance of one to the other. 16 00:00:59,793 --> 00:01:03,095 One side wants to conceal the truth 17 00:01:03,163 --> 00:01:04,596 and keep it in darkness. 18 00:01:04,664 --> 00:01:07,499 The other side wants to reveal the truth 19 00:01:07,567 --> 00:01:10,669 and bring it to light. 20 00:01:10,737 --> 00:01:14,540 When God puts on your heart something that must be done, 21 00:01:14,607 --> 00:01:17,576 it's often something you're not qualified for. 22 00:01:17,644 --> 00:01:20,779 But sometimes we're given opportunities 23 00:01:20,847 --> 00:01:23,415 to do things outside our comfort zone 24 00:01:23,483 --> 00:01:24,883 and we should not be afraid. 25 00:02:05,258 --> 00:02:07,092 Part of the reason I became a lawyer 26 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,129 was To Kill a Mockingbird. 27 00:02:10,163 --> 00:02:13,232 Atticus Finch was one of my childhood heroes. 28 00:02:15,535 --> 00:02:17,836 I thought if I could have a chance someday 29 00:02:17,904 --> 00:02:20,139 to strike a blow for justice, I... 30 00:02:20,206 --> 00:02:23,742 Wouldn't that be a great opportunity? 31 00:02:25,578 --> 00:02:28,981 I worked for 20 years as a civil trial lawyer, 32 00:02:29,048 --> 00:02:33,085 I did some good things that helped people. 33 00:02:35,455 --> 00:02:38,524 But I'd never done anything in the criminal sphere. 34 00:02:43,730 --> 00:02:46,498 I was completely unprepared for the height 35 00:02:46,533 --> 00:02:50,269 and the depth of the power and the arrogance 36 00:02:50,336 --> 00:02:51,904 of the district attorney's office 37 00:02:52,005 --> 00:02:53,672 of Williamson County. 38 00:02:53,740 --> 00:02:57,843 There is a strong political machine against us. 39 00:02:57,911 --> 00:02:59,745 That I didn't see coming. 40 00:03:01,981 --> 00:03:04,750 These... These cases changed me. 41 00:03:04,817 --> 00:03:07,152 It changed everyone in... in my family. 42 00:03:17,430 --> 00:03:21,700 On August 12th, 1986. 43 00:03:21,768 --> 00:03:25,003 It was Michael Morton's 33rd birthday. 44 00:03:25,071 --> 00:03:28,907 And, uh, he and his lovely wife Christine 45 00:03:28,975 --> 00:03:30,809 lived in North Austin. 46 00:03:34,247 --> 00:03:35,981 They had a little three-and-a-half year old boy 47 00:03:36,049 --> 00:03:37,349 named Eric. 48 00:03:37,417 --> 00:03:39,685 They had a little house. 49 00:03:39,752 --> 00:03:41,653 They had a yard, 50 00:03:41,721 --> 00:03:43,088 they had a little porch 51 00:03:43,156 --> 00:03:45,657 that Michael built in the backyard. 52 00:03:45,725 --> 00:03:47,159 They had a dog. 53 00:03:49,195 --> 00:03:51,563 Just typical, good people. 54 00:03:58,104 --> 00:04:00,539 That night, they celebrated Michael's birthday 55 00:04:00,607 --> 00:04:03,208 by having dinner together in Austin. 56 00:04:05,545 --> 00:04:07,312 Being his birthday, 57 00:04:07,380 --> 00:04:09,982 he wanted to get amorous with, uh... 58 00:04:10,049 --> 00:04:12,284 with Christine after Eric was put to bed. 59 00:04:12,352 --> 00:04:14,052 She was very tired, 60 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,420 and she kissed him, 61 00:04:15,488 --> 00:04:17,322 and said, "Tomorrow night, babe." 62 00:04:22,028 --> 00:04:23,829 The next morning, Michael said, 63 00:04:23,896 --> 00:04:25,864 He got up at 5:00 AM. 64 00:04:27,834 --> 00:04:31,570 Showered, shaved, 65 00:04:31,638 --> 00:04:34,206 he left a note on the bathroom mirror 66 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:36,174 for Christine. 67 00:04:38,344 --> 00:04:41,913 And, um, then he clocked in at... at his job 68 00:04:41,981 --> 00:04:43,849 at Safeway at 6:00 AM. 69 00:04:48,688 --> 00:04:49,988 If we don't think 70 00:04:50,056 --> 00:04:51,757 that our life could change like that, 71 00:04:51,824 --> 00:04:52,758 we're wrong. 72 00:04:56,796 --> 00:04:58,797 Later that morning, 73 00:04:58,831 --> 00:05:01,533 a neighbor found Eric 74 00:05:01,601 --> 00:05:05,671 walking by himself in the front yard. 75 00:05:05,738 --> 00:05:07,372 Eric had a soiled diaper 76 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,940 and the neighbor picked up Eric 77 00:05:09,008 --> 00:05:10,942 and walked him into the house 78 00:05:11,010 --> 00:05:13,045 calling out for Christine. 79 00:05:13,112 --> 00:05:14,713 Christine was not answering. 80 00:05:16,949 --> 00:05:18,383 She walked around with Eric 81 00:05:18,451 --> 00:05:19,718 looking for Christine in the house 82 00:05:19,786 --> 00:05:21,620 and found Christine's body. 83 00:05:25,758 --> 00:05:28,393 There was blood all over the walls, uh, 84 00:05:28,461 --> 00:05:31,396 over the ceiling, bits of flesh. 85 00:05:33,766 --> 00:05:36,968 The next door neighbor was extremely frightened, 86 00:05:37,036 --> 00:05:38,870 immediately called the sheriff's department 87 00:05:38,938 --> 00:05:40,272 who came straight over. 88 00:05:43,443 --> 00:05:46,712 Sheriff John Boutwell came to the scene, 89 00:05:46,779 --> 00:05:49,481 the Hazelhurst address of the Morton house. 90 00:05:51,184 --> 00:05:53,618 Sheriff Boutwell was central casting 91 00:05:53,686 --> 00:05:54,953 for a Western novel. 92 00:05:55,021 --> 00:05:56,555 He had a Stetson hat, and boots, 93 00:05:56,622 --> 00:06:01,860 and the tie tack on his tie were handcuffs. 94 00:06:01,928 --> 00:06:06,131 And, uh, he proceeded to search the house. 95 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:08,233 Without calling Michael to tell him that 96 00:06:08,301 --> 00:06:09,968 his wife was dead. 97 00:06:12,972 --> 00:06:14,406 And he went back 98 00:06:14,474 --> 00:06:18,110 and he found Christine's body. 99 00:06:24,417 --> 00:06:26,351 The murderer covered her corpse 100 00:06:26,419 --> 00:06:29,488 with a blue suitcase and a wicker basket. 101 00:06:32,592 --> 00:06:35,560 Her face was... was no longer recognizable 102 00:06:35,628 --> 00:06:37,396 as any sort of person. 103 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,735 Using probably a two-by-four 104 00:06:43,803 --> 00:06:46,338 from the construction area out back, uh, 105 00:06:46,406 --> 00:06:48,540 we know this because there were bits of 106 00:06:48,608 --> 00:06:51,743 wood embedded in her brain. 107 00:06:51,811 --> 00:06:54,346 Christine Morton was lying on her back. 108 00:06:54,414 --> 00:06:56,448 The killer brought it down with full force 109 00:06:56,516 --> 00:06:58,016 right on her face. 110 00:06:59,485 --> 00:07:01,620 And again. 111 00:07:01,654 --> 00:07:03,855 And again. 112 00:07:03,923 --> 00:07:06,625 Nine or ten times. 113 00:07:06,692 --> 00:07:09,995 She was dead after the second or, when, probably 114 00:07:10,062 --> 00:07:11,863 if not the first. 115 00:07:18,037 --> 00:07:22,073 Sheriff Boutwell didn't see signs of forced entry. 116 00:07:22,108 --> 00:07:25,010 He didn't see very much was stolen. 117 00:07:25,077 --> 00:07:27,913 And investigators determined that Christine Morton 118 00:07:27,980 --> 00:07:30,282 was not sexually assaulted. 119 00:07:33,085 --> 00:07:36,188 He found Michael's note to Christine. 120 00:07:37,890 --> 00:07:40,158 And the note said, 121 00:07:40,226 --> 00:07:42,828 "You know, I didn't want to have a fight with you about sex 122 00:07:42,895 --> 00:07:46,331 but you left me hanging on my birthday. 123 00:07:46,365 --> 00:07:49,034 And, um, I'll... I'll see you tonight." 124 00:07:50,870 --> 00:07:53,004 Meanwhile, Michael Morton went to a daycare 125 00:07:53,072 --> 00:07:55,273 to pick up his son Eric. 126 00:07:55,341 --> 00:07:56,475 Eric was not at the daycare. 127 00:07:58,244 --> 00:08:00,378 So Michael called home, 128 00:08:00,446 --> 00:08:02,981 just see what was going on. 129 00:08:03,049 --> 00:08:05,250 Sheriff Boutwell answered the phone. 130 00:08:07,420 --> 00:08:09,254 Said, "You have to come home right now." 131 00:08:18,464 --> 00:08:20,732 He answered all of their questions 132 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,003 and he told them, "I didn't do it. 133 00:08:25,071 --> 00:08:27,739 I don't know who did, I was at work. 134 00:08:27,773 --> 00:08:31,576 I found out about it later." 135 00:08:31,644 --> 00:08:33,478 Topping the news, a brutal slaying 136 00:08:33,546 --> 00:08:36,248 in Williamson County has investigators puzzled. 137 00:08:36,315 --> 00:08:38,350 Sheriff's officers refused to talk in detail 138 00:08:38,417 --> 00:08:40,485 about the slaying, but the possible suspect 139 00:08:40,553 --> 00:08:42,687 is being questioned about the murder. 140 00:08:45,758 --> 00:08:48,293 The first time I saw my brother Michael 141 00:08:48,394 --> 00:08:50,795 after the murder, uh, was at the funeral. 142 00:08:52,632 --> 00:08:55,300 He was a different person. 143 00:08:55,368 --> 00:08:56,868 So we were we, so was I. 144 00:08:56,936 --> 00:08:58,670 You know, our family was completely different 145 00:08:58,738 --> 00:09:01,072 because when Chris died, it tore the family apart. 146 00:09:01,140 --> 00:09:03,174 You know, part of us died. 147 00:09:05,811 --> 00:09:07,946 As the criminal investigation began, 148 00:09:08,014 --> 00:09:10,415 they interviewed my brother multiple times. 149 00:09:10,483 --> 00:09:13,051 And they begin to interview the neighbors. 150 00:09:13,119 --> 00:09:15,220 And his co-workers, and people that they knew, 151 00:09:15,288 --> 00:09:18,523 asking them, you know, "What kind of person is he?" 152 00:09:20,059 --> 00:09:23,562 And they looked at him as the prime suspect. 153 00:09:23,629 --> 00:09:26,097 To think that he could do something like that, 154 00:09:26,165 --> 00:09:28,967 to his own wife, or to anybody, 155 00:09:29,035 --> 00:09:30,769 we were in a state of shock. 156 00:09:30,836 --> 00:09:34,239 And then the nightmare went to a whole another level. 157 00:09:36,375 --> 00:09:39,110 Not long after Christine's funeral... 158 00:09:40,947 --> 00:09:44,049 ...Michael heard the doorbell of his house. 159 00:09:44,116 --> 00:09:45,817 And he picked up his son Eric 160 00:09:45,885 --> 00:09:50,655 and they went to the door together. 161 00:09:50,723 --> 00:09:53,491 And it was Sheriff Boutwell and several deputies. 162 00:09:57,396 --> 00:09:59,864 They took his son out of his arms. 163 00:10:04,503 --> 00:10:06,504 And handcuffed Michael. 164 00:10:09,809 --> 00:10:12,744 And Michael looks back and sees Eric reaching out 165 00:10:12,812 --> 00:10:15,747 and screaming, "Daddy, daddy, daddy." 166 00:10:19,352 --> 00:10:21,987 And this little boy that had just lost his mother, 167 00:10:22,054 --> 00:10:23,755 now is losing his father? 168 00:10:27,627 --> 00:10:29,227 It affected me as a father 169 00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:32,998 because I thought about my children. 170 00:10:33,065 --> 00:10:37,168 And that's why I was haunted by this case. 171 00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:40,939 I can't imagine how horrible that was 172 00:10:41,007 --> 00:10:42,641 for the little three and half year old boy. 173 00:10:42,675 --> 00:10:44,309 - No, I can't. - You can't. 174 00:10:44,377 --> 00:10:47,178 None of us can. We can't grasp it. 175 00:10:51,684 --> 00:10:53,818 Everything that happened to my brother 176 00:10:53,886 --> 00:10:56,354 happened so fast. 177 00:10:56,422 --> 00:10:58,056 I mean, right after the funeral 178 00:10:58,124 --> 00:11:00,158 they zero in on him. 179 00:11:00,226 --> 00:11:02,360 Less than six months after Michael was arrested 180 00:11:02,428 --> 00:11:03,828 the case went to trial. 181 00:11:03,896 --> 00:11:07,632 That is very fast for a murder trial. 182 00:11:07,700 --> 00:11:09,668 Michael Morton sought and obtained 183 00:11:09,735 --> 00:11:11,603 the very best lawyers that he could. 184 00:11:11,637 --> 00:11:14,906 Bill Allison and Bill White. 185 00:11:14,974 --> 00:11:18,176 Michael was... 186 00:11:18,244 --> 00:11:20,245 a little overwhelmed by the situation 187 00:11:20,312 --> 00:11:22,547 that he found himself in, 188 00:11:22,615 --> 00:11:25,917 but he... but he was not very evocative. 189 00:11:25,985 --> 00:11:28,153 He was the only suspect they had 190 00:11:28,220 --> 00:11:31,156 and his... The only thing he had to say about it was, 191 00:11:31,223 --> 00:11:33,692 "It was somebody else. I don't know who it was." 192 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:35,360 As long as I live, I'll still have 193 00:11:35,394 --> 00:11:37,429 an mixed feelings about this case. 194 00:11:39,098 --> 00:11:40,665 I became involved in Michael Morton 195 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:42,467 as a law student working 196 00:11:42,535 --> 00:11:43,902 for Defense Attorney's Bill White and Bill Allison 197 00:11:43,969 --> 00:11:45,537 who tried the case. 198 00:11:45,604 --> 00:11:47,038 My first impressions of Michael 199 00:11:47,106 --> 00:11:49,474 was he was very well-dressed articulate man. 200 00:11:49,542 --> 00:11:52,844 He was not, uh, particularly emotional by nature. 201 00:11:52,912 --> 00:11:56,981 A little bit stern at times, but very controlled. 202 00:12:00,252 --> 00:12:03,321 Initially the lead up to the trial. 203 00:12:03,389 --> 00:12:05,924 I was a little, uh, undecided 204 00:12:05,991 --> 00:12:07,959 about whether or not he had committed this crime. 205 00:12:11,897 --> 00:12:13,565 I was sent up to Georgetown 206 00:12:13,599 --> 00:12:16,201 to pick up the crime scene photos. 207 00:12:24,477 --> 00:12:26,311 And I saw the crime scene photos 208 00:12:26,378 --> 00:12:27,612 for the first time. 209 00:12:38,390 --> 00:12:40,258 It was a very, uh, sobering moment 210 00:12:40,326 --> 00:12:44,195 for a twenty-something year old law student. 211 00:12:50,836 --> 00:12:52,303 The courtroom where it was tried 212 00:12:52,371 --> 00:12:54,272 was this big, very large courtroom 213 00:12:54,340 --> 00:12:56,141 in the old Williamson County courthouse. 214 00:12:56,208 --> 00:13:00,044 And it was a very old Southern atmosphere. 215 00:13:00,112 --> 00:13:03,481 It was long church pew type sitting, old, 216 00:13:03,549 --> 00:13:05,617 kind of wooden bannisters, and so it was, like, 217 00:13:05,651 --> 00:13:08,253 very, uh, a made for movie trial. 218 00:13:10,556 --> 00:13:12,157 The prosecutors were the elected 219 00:13:12,224 --> 00:13:14,659 District Attorney Ken Anderson. 220 00:13:14,727 --> 00:13:18,296 Ken Anderson, he was a very, uh, sarcastic, 221 00:13:18,330 --> 00:13:21,666 aggressive, and smart prosecutor. 222 00:13:21,734 --> 00:13:24,803 He was quite clever 223 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:26,871 in his playing on the emotions of the case, 224 00:13:26,939 --> 00:13:29,007 and quite effective. 225 00:13:29,074 --> 00:13:30,475 He was my meticulous. 226 00:13:30,543 --> 00:13:33,478 He was very, very well-prepared. 227 00:13:33,546 --> 00:13:36,047 So, they brought their A team for this trial. 228 00:13:40,352 --> 00:13:42,353 The strategy they used in large part 229 00:13:42,388 --> 00:13:46,524 was a character assassination of Michael. 230 00:13:46,592 --> 00:13:49,494 The storyline was essentially, uh, 231 00:13:49,562 --> 00:13:50,995 it was a unhappy marriage. 232 00:13:51,030 --> 00:13:52,163 He was looking for a way out, 233 00:13:52,231 --> 00:13:54,065 lost his temper that night, 234 00:13:54,099 --> 00:13:57,335 and then tried to cover it all up. 235 00:13:57,403 --> 00:14:00,238 The state's theory of the case at trial 236 00:14:00,306 --> 00:14:03,641 was that Michael had killed Christine 237 00:14:03,676 --> 00:14:05,376 in a sex-filled rage 238 00:14:05,444 --> 00:14:09,113 because she didn't have sex with him on his birthday 239 00:14:09,181 --> 00:14:12,684 and the note that was on the bathroom mirror, 240 00:14:12,751 --> 00:14:14,085 "You left me hanging on my birthday." 241 00:14:14,153 --> 00:14:15,920 It was the evidence they used, 242 00:14:15,988 --> 00:14:17,856 but what... There was more evidence. 243 00:14:19,458 --> 00:14:21,192 There was a hair in her hand. 244 00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:22,894 There was testimony at trial 245 00:14:22,962 --> 00:14:24,863 that it was consistent with Michael's hair. 246 00:14:24,930 --> 00:14:27,065 In fact they said it was consistent 247 00:14:27,099 --> 00:14:31,035 with, uh, a hair from his penis. 248 00:14:31,103 --> 00:14:33,738 There was also a semen stain on the bed. 249 00:14:33,806 --> 00:14:36,074 The State called a witness at trial to testify 250 00:14:36,141 --> 00:14:40,311 that it was a neat stain containing only male cells. 251 00:14:42,147 --> 00:14:47,352 Prosecutor asked the State's Pathologist Roberto Bayardo 252 00:14:47,419 --> 00:14:49,587 to give an opinion on the time of death. 253 00:14:49,655 --> 00:14:53,758 So, he examined Christine's stomach contents 254 00:14:53,826 --> 00:14:56,027 and the rate of digestion. 255 00:14:56,095 --> 00:14:57,862 And from that he deduced a theory 256 00:14:57,930 --> 00:14:59,697 as to the time of death. 257 00:14:59,765 --> 00:15:01,833 Uh, Doctor Bayardo testified that her time of death 258 00:15:01,901 --> 00:15:05,103 was sometime before Michael had left for work. 259 00:15:08,007 --> 00:15:10,742 Michael's defense was, "It wasn't me. 260 00:15:10,809 --> 00:15:14,012 I don't know who it was. I was at work." 261 00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:15,446 Plain and simple. 262 00:15:15,514 --> 00:15:18,483 The only defense theory that we had 263 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:24,289 that this was the act of some... of some maniac 264 00:15:24,356 --> 00:15:28,860 who had walked into your house and killed you. 265 00:15:31,730 --> 00:15:33,831 Michael didn't make the best witness 266 00:15:33,866 --> 00:15:36,401 from an emotional standpoint I didn't think, 267 00:15:36,468 --> 00:15:39,404 but I didn't feel like they had, uh, proof 268 00:15:39,471 --> 00:15:42,173 necessary for a conviction. 269 00:15:42,241 --> 00:15:45,810 So, the prosecutor Ken Anderson 270 00:15:45,878 --> 00:15:48,613 waited until rebuttal of closing argument, 271 00:15:48,681 --> 00:15:51,115 when it was too late for the defense 272 00:15:51,183 --> 00:15:53,751 to say anything in response. 273 00:15:53,786 --> 00:15:57,689 In front of the judge, the jury, the media, 274 00:15:57,756 --> 00:16:02,327 our family, and in front of my mother. 275 00:16:02,428 --> 00:16:04,996 He stated that, 276 00:16:05,064 --> 00:16:08,032 he felt that after my brother 277 00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:10,868 brutally murdered my sister-in-law. 278 00:16:10,936 --> 00:16:13,538 That he took her dead hand, 279 00:16:13,605 --> 00:16:15,907 cupped it in his hand, 280 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:19,377 wrapped her hand around his penis, 281 00:16:19,445 --> 00:16:23,681 and then masturbated himself to the point of ejaculation. 282 00:16:23,749 --> 00:16:25,049 And that was just... 283 00:16:25,117 --> 00:16:26,351 that was the lowest of the low, 284 00:16:26,385 --> 00:16:28,186 that... that killed us all. 285 00:16:28,253 --> 00:16:32,590 That... That almost finish us off. 286 00:16:32,658 --> 00:16:37,195 And then he showed color photos of the murder scene 287 00:16:37,262 --> 00:16:38,997 and the blood everywhere. 288 00:16:39,031 --> 00:16:42,133 And said, "Don't let this monster get away. 289 00:16:42,201 --> 00:16:44,969 We are not safe if we let him get away. 290 00:16:46,405 --> 00:16:48,006 The jury didn't deliberate very long. 291 00:16:51,443 --> 00:16:54,879 They had scientific proof of the time of death 292 00:16:54,913 --> 00:16:57,815 from the stomach contents analysis, 293 00:16:57,883 --> 00:16:59,317 then Michael Morton was convicted. 294 00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:10,561 Michael Morton is taken prison for life. 295 00:17:11,597 --> 00:17:13,131 I didn't do this. 296 00:17:13,198 --> 00:17:15,266 - I'm sorry, what? - I did not do this. 297 00:17:15,334 --> 00:17:17,568 District Attorney Anderson said a life sentence 298 00:17:17,636 --> 00:17:20,538 is too good for Michael Morton. 299 00:17:20,606 --> 00:17:22,940 He should have been given the death penalty. 300 00:17:23,008 --> 00:17:25,877 It got sickening after a while to watch him cry 301 00:17:25,944 --> 00:17:27,311 at the wrong times 302 00:17:27,379 --> 00:17:28,913 and he seemed to only to cry for himself. 303 00:17:40,292 --> 00:17:43,795 And then just months after Michael was convicted, 304 00:17:43,862 --> 00:17:46,464 there was another woman 305 00:17:46,532 --> 00:17:48,199 beaten in the face with a blunt instrument 306 00:17:48,267 --> 00:17:50,034 while she was sleeping, 307 00:17:50,102 --> 00:17:53,404 killed exactly the same way as Christine Morton. 308 00:18:00,112 --> 00:18:02,480 Breaking news in North Austin this morning, 309 00:18:02,548 --> 00:18:04,916 the body of a 32-year old resident 310 00:18:04,983 --> 00:18:07,819 was found in her home on Thursday murdered 311 00:18:07,886 --> 00:18:10,621 in what investigators called, a savage beating. 312 00:18:13,826 --> 00:18:18,429 On the morning of January 13th of 1988, 313 00:18:18,497 --> 00:18:21,732 Debra Jan Baker did not show up for work. 314 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,702 Her employer contacted Debra's mother 315 00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:26,971 and asked that she check on Debra 316 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:30,708 because it was not customary for her not show up for work. 317 00:18:32,444 --> 00:18:35,179 So, her mother made her way to the residence... 318 00:18:41,186 --> 00:18:43,688 called out for Debra. 319 00:18:45,357 --> 00:18:46,924 Was unable to gain a response, 320 00:18:46,992 --> 00:18:49,026 so she made her way to the master bedroom. 321 00:18:56,835 --> 00:18:59,504 And that's where she had the grizzly discovered. 322 00:19:03,375 --> 00:19:05,543 My mom called me at work 323 00:19:05,577 --> 00:19:08,713 and told me that Debbie was dead. 324 00:19:08,780 --> 00:19:12,183 I get... I get, I don't know what to think. 325 00:19:12,251 --> 00:19:15,820 I just thought, you know, this can't be, you know, 326 00:19:15,888 --> 00:19:17,455 how can she be dead and she was, like, 327 00:19:17,523 --> 00:19:18,523 "She was murdered." 328 00:19:32,838 --> 00:19:33,971 By the time we got there, 329 00:19:34,039 --> 00:19:36,841 they'd already set up the tape. 330 00:19:36,909 --> 00:19:42,113 Um, I went under the tape running toward the house 331 00:19:42,147 --> 00:19:43,848 and I just remembered, you know, 332 00:19:43,916 --> 00:19:46,851 police stopping me, you know, "Wooh, wooh, wooh." 333 00:19:46,919 --> 00:19:48,286 Backing me up who, you know, 334 00:19:48,353 --> 00:19:49,887 "You can't be here. Who are you?" 335 00:19:52,457 --> 00:19:55,293 Debra Jan Baker was lying 336 00:19:55,394 --> 00:19:58,796 in a semi-prone position on the bed. 337 00:19:58,830 --> 00:20:02,900 There was indication of a violent attack. 338 00:20:05,237 --> 00:20:09,874 There are pillows over Debra Baker's head 339 00:20:09,942 --> 00:20:11,943 and body. 340 00:20:12,010 --> 00:20:15,780 There were a lot similarities to the Christine Morton case. 341 00:20:15,881 --> 00:20:17,281 She was struck multiple times 342 00:20:17,349 --> 00:20:19,550 across the head. 343 00:20:19,585 --> 00:20:22,053 All of the blows to the head 344 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:25,690 were fatal in nature and fractured the skull. 345 00:20:25,757 --> 00:20:30,828 The weapon was likely a thin linear object, uh, 346 00:20:30,896 --> 00:20:32,096 heavy in weight. 347 00:20:34,833 --> 00:20:39,003 And it was gruesome bloody scene 348 00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:41,872 which makes you think about that poor mom 349 00:20:41,940 --> 00:20:45,309 that had to find her daughter in that state. 350 00:20:45,377 --> 00:20:49,780 There were other injuries into her hands 351 00:20:49,848 --> 00:20:53,718 that were characteristic of defensive injuries 352 00:20:53,785 --> 00:20:57,855 as if she was trying to fight off the attacker. 353 00:20:57,923 --> 00:21:00,191 There's a lot of things at that scene 354 00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:02,460 that makes the investigator wonder, 355 00:21:02,527 --> 00:21:04,929 "Is it someone close to them?" 356 00:21:05,030 --> 00:21:09,300 It just seemed personal because it was so violent. 357 00:21:11,470 --> 00:21:15,506 There's also a pillow propped up underneath her 358 00:21:15,574 --> 00:21:20,211 where she is on her side, kind of side and stomach, 359 00:21:20,245 --> 00:21:23,147 and that sometimes is an indication of sexual assault. 360 00:21:25,217 --> 00:21:27,752 But during the course of the autopsy examination, 361 00:21:27,819 --> 00:21:30,288 uh, they were, uh, unable to locate 362 00:21:30,355 --> 00:21:32,290 any evidence of seminal fluid. 363 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,962 Debra Jan Baker, uh, lived with her two children, 364 00:21:38,030 --> 00:21:40,398 but on this particular evening, uh, 365 00:21:40,465 --> 00:21:42,366 she was at the residence alone. 366 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:50,074 The sliding glass door on the rear 367 00:21:50,175 --> 00:21:52,843 of the, uh residence was likely the entry point. 368 00:21:56,415 --> 00:21:58,115 Uh, the jewelry boxes were opened, 369 00:21:58,150 --> 00:21:59,917 however, it didn't look like there had been... 370 00:22:00,052 --> 00:22:01,519 Any jewelry had actually been... 371 00:22:01,586 --> 00:22:03,054 had been taken. 372 00:22:04,656 --> 00:22:07,591 There's a blue towel 373 00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:10,194 in the bathroom on the ground. 374 00:22:10,228 --> 00:22:12,830 Which suggested that the assailant 375 00:22:12,898 --> 00:22:15,566 may potentially had cleaned up after the fact 376 00:22:15,634 --> 00:22:19,403 or in this case may have taken a shower. 377 00:22:19,471 --> 00:22:21,605 There were hairs that were found 378 00:22:21,673 --> 00:22:24,675 when investigators used a vacuum. 379 00:22:24,743 --> 00:22:27,111 And vacuumed up a pink comforter, 380 00:22:27,179 --> 00:22:29,747 and the bed, and sheets. 381 00:22:32,384 --> 00:22:34,852 The only things missing from Debbie's house 382 00:22:34,886 --> 00:22:36,587 were her VCR. 383 00:22:36,655 --> 00:22:40,624 Some money from her purse and some clothes 384 00:22:40,692 --> 00:22:43,494 which he probably used to wrap the VCR in. 385 00:22:43,562 --> 00:22:46,130 In crimes, like this 386 00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:49,400 it's typical that a suspect will sometimes 387 00:22:49,468 --> 00:22:53,170 take an object usually not a VCR. 388 00:23:13,959 --> 00:23:17,328 My mom died January 13th 1988, 389 00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:21,432 and I turned four on January 16th of the same year. 390 00:23:26,304 --> 00:23:29,974 So, as my grandmother put it, I was just a few days shy 391 00:23:30,041 --> 00:23:31,742 of my fourth birthday, 392 00:23:31,810 --> 00:23:34,812 so I don't know much about her, my mom, 393 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,714 except for what other people have told me. 394 00:23:36,782 --> 00:23:39,850 But, um, I just spent my whole life 395 00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:43,854 just living through other people's stories. 396 00:23:46,591 --> 00:23:49,193 Debbie was, uh, my oldest sister. 397 00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:52,596 Debbie was always everybody's big sister. 398 00:23:52,631 --> 00:23:54,265 Debbie was very ambitious, 399 00:23:54,299 --> 00:23:57,101 there was nothing she wouldn't tackle. 400 00:23:57,169 --> 00:24:00,438 She was working in real estate, um, 401 00:24:00,505 --> 00:24:01,772 property management. 402 00:24:04,676 --> 00:24:08,145 Was very busy with very two small children. 403 00:24:09,881 --> 00:24:13,117 We always, um, hung out at Debbie's a lot, 404 00:24:13,151 --> 00:24:16,120 and on the night Debbie was murdered, 405 00:24:16,188 --> 00:24:19,657 Debbie and I were just hanging out at her house. 406 00:24:19,724 --> 00:24:21,625 Debbie didn't have the kids that night 407 00:24:21,660 --> 00:24:24,595 and we just had kind of a normal evening 408 00:24:24,663 --> 00:24:28,065 drinking coffee and chatting. 409 00:24:28,133 --> 00:24:29,633 A big cold front was blowing in, 410 00:24:29,701 --> 00:24:30,701 I remember that. 411 00:24:30,769 --> 00:24:33,571 It was odd for Austin. 412 00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:41,445 I heard a noise 413 00:24:41,513 --> 00:24:43,147 and asked her about it, you know, 414 00:24:43,215 --> 00:24:44,949 "What am I hearing?" 415 00:24:45,016 --> 00:24:47,551 And she's, like, "A broken pane of glass." 416 00:24:47,619 --> 00:24:49,720 And she put, uh, a trash bag over it 417 00:24:49,754 --> 00:24:51,589 because of this cold front. 418 00:24:53,959 --> 00:24:55,292 And she said, you know, 419 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:56,827 "That's probably what you're hearing." 420 00:25:01,199 --> 00:25:05,703 And then I left about midnight. 421 00:25:23,622 --> 00:25:26,690 I've always thought I was hearing him 422 00:25:26,725 --> 00:25:28,726 in her closet. 423 00:25:28,793 --> 00:25:30,194 I've always had that feeling 424 00:25:30,262 --> 00:25:31,562 that he was... he was there 425 00:25:31,630 --> 00:25:33,664 just waiting for me to leave. 426 00:25:43,208 --> 00:25:45,476 Very early on in the investigation, 427 00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:47,645 investigators were focused on individuals 428 00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:50,714 that were close to Debra Baker. 429 00:25:50,782 --> 00:25:52,583 They said we need you all, you know, 430 00:25:52,651 --> 00:25:54,118 to all come down at the police station 431 00:25:54,185 --> 00:25:55,719 and make a statement. 432 00:25:57,622 --> 00:25:59,023 So, they, you know, 433 00:25:59,057 --> 00:26:01,191 interviewed each of us separately. 434 00:26:03,261 --> 00:26:04,795 They were trying to find out about her 435 00:26:04,863 --> 00:26:06,430 and asked us questions, 436 00:26:06,498 --> 00:26:08,232 if we knew anybody who had anything against her. 437 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:11,435 Who wanted to, uh... Who would wanna hurt her. 438 00:26:14,139 --> 00:26:16,774 And then they started, uh, asking a lot questions 439 00:26:16,841 --> 00:26:19,209 about the estranged husband, Phil. 440 00:26:20,946 --> 00:26:22,947 Debbie and her husband were separated, 441 00:26:23,014 --> 00:26:26,216 but they had joint custody. 442 00:26:26,284 --> 00:26:28,018 Phil lived very close by. 443 00:26:30,989 --> 00:26:32,790 And of course they were asking questions 444 00:26:32,857 --> 00:26:34,592 if Phil was violent and, you know, 445 00:26:34,659 --> 00:26:37,895 how their relationship was with the divorce. 446 00:26:40,632 --> 00:26:42,866 And I remember just talking about, you know, them 447 00:26:42,934 --> 00:26:44,335 just going separate ways, 448 00:26:44,402 --> 00:26:45,703 and they had a lot of money problems 449 00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:48,272 and, um, you know, 450 00:26:50,008 --> 00:26:53,010 but the detectives they were so sure 451 00:26:53,078 --> 00:26:55,646 it was Phil, you know, 452 00:26:55,714 --> 00:26:57,014 it's, like, you never know. 453 00:26:57,048 --> 00:26:58,949 You never know who's gonna go crazy 454 00:26:59,017 --> 00:27:01,552 or who's gonna do this. 455 00:27:07,926 --> 00:27:11,161 Over 50% of female homicides in the United States 456 00:27:11,229 --> 00:27:15,232 are the result of family or, uh, dating relationships. 457 00:27:15,266 --> 00:27:17,101 So, very early in the investigation, 458 00:27:17,168 --> 00:27:19,203 the investigators had focused on 459 00:27:19,270 --> 00:27:22,906 Debra Baker's, uh, ex-husband. 460 00:27:22,974 --> 00:27:24,708 They went through and made sure 461 00:27:24,776 --> 00:27:26,477 that they were thorough 462 00:27:26,544 --> 00:27:30,047 with of course their interviews of the ex-husband. 463 00:27:31,983 --> 00:27:33,917 They decided that he wanted the kids. 464 00:27:33,985 --> 00:27:36,987 That was what they told us, oh, he wanted custody of kids. 465 00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:42,059 So, during the interview, they were trying to come up 466 00:27:42,127 --> 00:27:44,495 with scenarios of how he might 467 00:27:44,529 --> 00:27:46,497 have been in her house. 468 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,769 He denied... He denied everything. 469 00:27:56,941 --> 00:28:00,811 They were able to locate and lift, uh, 470 00:28:00,845 --> 00:28:02,613 approximately fifteen of his fingertips 471 00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:05,949 from the master bedroom and in the master bath. 472 00:28:08,553 --> 00:28:11,922 And so they arranged for, uh, polygraph tests. 473 00:28:25,670 --> 00:28:28,105 Phil passed the polygraphs fine. 474 00:28:28,173 --> 00:28:31,308 I remember at that time not mentioning 475 00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:34,278 the real reason for the separation. 476 00:28:34,345 --> 00:28:38,015 I went back and said, look, I've got to say this, 477 00:28:38,049 --> 00:28:39,850 "They separated because Phil was gay 478 00:28:39,918 --> 00:28:43,053 and Phil had come out." 479 00:28:43,121 --> 00:28:44,822 Debbie and Phil were separated, 480 00:28:44,889 --> 00:28:47,591 but they had, um, very amicable relationship, 481 00:28:47,659 --> 00:28:49,393 joint custody, um, 482 00:28:49,461 --> 00:28:51,795 they switched the kids every week. 483 00:28:51,863 --> 00:28:53,697 He lived very close by. 484 00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:56,667 He had the kids that night when she was murdered. 485 00:28:56,735 --> 00:28:59,870 And I mean, it's very... Respectfully for Phil, 486 00:29:00,004 --> 00:29:02,773 but he didn't want the kids fulltime. 487 00:29:02,841 --> 00:29:04,708 He was enjoying his life. 488 00:29:04,776 --> 00:29:08,078 He was, you know, able to date and do things 489 00:29:08,146 --> 00:29:09,747 that he hadn't been able to do, 490 00:29:09,814 --> 00:29:13,283 which having two small children didn't make easier. 491 00:29:15,053 --> 00:29:16,754 Um, and there was no evidence 492 00:29:16,821 --> 00:29:19,289 that her ex-husband wanted to cause her, 493 00:29:19,357 --> 00:29:21,892 um, this type of harm. 494 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,460 Debbie had no enemies. 495 00:29:23,528 --> 00:29:26,463 She didn't piss people off. 496 00:29:26,498 --> 00:29:28,565 She was everybody's friend. 497 00:29:28,633 --> 00:29:31,001 I just never knew, really, never knew 498 00:29:31,069 --> 00:29:33,904 anybody to say a bad word about her. 499 00:29:33,972 --> 00:29:36,440 And that's not just remembering her saintly. 500 00:29:36,508 --> 00:29:39,443 I mean, it's just the way she was. 501 00:29:39,511 --> 00:29:42,679 You just couldn't imagine how anybody 502 00:29:42,714 --> 00:29:45,749 could be that angry at her 503 00:29:45,817 --> 00:29:49,286 because she was very, very violently killed. 504 00:29:50,955 --> 00:29:52,790 Meanwhile, you know, the killer is out there, 505 00:29:52,857 --> 00:29:54,324 somewhere. 506 00:30:01,933 --> 00:30:04,701 And then they kind of, did start moving on, 507 00:30:04,769 --> 00:30:07,204 and start checking out, you know, other people. 508 00:30:09,574 --> 00:30:11,241 We wanted to explore any avenues 509 00:30:11,309 --> 00:30:14,545 determine if she had any, other dating relationships. 510 00:30:17,148 --> 00:30:19,383 She wasn't dating. 511 00:30:19,450 --> 00:30:20,918 She was very busy with the new job, 512 00:30:20,985 --> 00:30:23,887 and two small kids. 513 00:30:23,955 --> 00:30:25,556 A canvass was conducted 514 00:30:25,623 --> 00:30:27,124 of the neighborhood. 515 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,195 The officers also looked at any other 516 00:30:31,262 --> 00:30:34,264 suspicious activity that may have been reported, 517 00:30:34,299 --> 00:30:36,266 uh, even prior to the homicide. 518 00:30:38,436 --> 00:30:44,074 There were checks of suspects in the area 519 00:30:44,142 --> 00:30:46,510 who have had previous sexual assaults, 520 00:30:46,578 --> 00:30:50,514 burglaries, peeping Toms, those types of things. 521 00:30:50,582 --> 00:30:52,850 And I know initially there were 52 suspects 522 00:30:52,884 --> 00:30:56,520 that they compared fingerprints 523 00:30:56,554 --> 00:30:59,022 that they took from the scene. 524 00:30:59,090 --> 00:31:00,757 That information can be loaded 525 00:31:00,825 --> 00:31:02,759 to a national database 526 00:31:02,827 --> 00:31:05,329 and can be shared with agencies, 527 00:31:05,363 --> 00:31:07,464 uh, from the east coast to the west coast. 528 00:31:07,498 --> 00:31:10,234 But they didn't have any matches. 529 00:31:10,301 --> 00:31:15,639 Back in 1988, DNA technology was just in its infancy. 530 00:31:15,707 --> 00:31:20,444 Uh, so it was a time where we didn't have 531 00:31:20,511 --> 00:31:22,145 all the resources that we would... 532 00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:25,449 we would necessarily have available to us today. 533 00:31:25,483 --> 00:31:27,618 So having an electronic device like the VCR, 534 00:31:27,685 --> 00:31:29,486 something that would be identifiable, 535 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,756 um, detectives were able to obtain the serial number. 536 00:31:32,824 --> 00:31:36,360 So they posted flyers at various pawn shops 537 00:31:36,427 --> 00:31:39,162 in the area indicating if any of the employees 538 00:31:39,230 --> 00:31:42,733 would come across a 1984 Montgomery Ward VCR, 539 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,234 with that serial number that they were 540 00:31:44,302 --> 00:31:46,503 to immediately notify homicide unit. 541 00:31:48,406 --> 00:31:50,674 However, didn't have any matches. 542 00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:00,317 This case was really a mystery. 543 00:32:00,385 --> 00:32:01,919 We didn't have a lot to move on 544 00:32:01,986 --> 00:32:04,922 at that point back in 1988. 545 00:32:07,992 --> 00:32:09,927 Then we had the funeral. 546 00:32:11,462 --> 00:32:12,829 And it was weird, 547 00:32:12,897 --> 00:32:14,364 because we knew the police were there. 548 00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:16,967 They told us they'd be there, um, you know, 549 00:32:17,035 --> 00:32:18,468 watching to see who came to the funeral 550 00:32:18,536 --> 00:32:20,170 and all that kind of stuff. 551 00:32:20,238 --> 00:32:22,873 And then same thing we're looking around who's here, 552 00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:25,676 who do we know who, you know. 553 00:32:25,743 --> 00:32:27,210 And we called and like, "Hey, 554 00:32:27,278 --> 00:32:28,812 did you get anywhere with that", 555 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,814 and you know, 556 00:32:30,848 --> 00:32:34,718 just really would never tell us anything. 557 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:38,355 We just weren't able to develop any leads 558 00:32:38,423 --> 00:32:40,590 at that point in time. 559 00:32:40,658 --> 00:32:43,694 And eventually the case ended up going cold. 560 00:32:47,465 --> 00:32:50,867 So then it was just down to us 561 00:32:50,935 --> 00:32:53,904 suspecting everybody we knew. 562 00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:56,773 We all spent years just, 563 00:32:56,841 --> 00:33:00,744 you know, looking side-eye at people and wondering, hmm. 564 00:33:00,812 --> 00:33:04,715 And you know, it was kind of poisonous in a way, um, 565 00:33:04,782 --> 00:33:08,085 trying to think about people, 566 00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:10,988 um, suspiciously. 567 00:33:14,392 --> 00:33:15,492 I had people tell me 568 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,994 that when I was a kid, 569 00:33:17,061 --> 00:33:18,595 that I was a young kid that I would start 570 00:33:18,663 --> 00:33:20,097 crying for my mom. 571 00:33:20,131 --> 00:33:21,765 I don't remember any of that. 572 00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:24,201 Um, but it didn't really become real for me 573 00:33:24,268 --> 00:33:26,470 until I was 18 and graduating from high school. 574 00:33:26,537 --> 00:33:28,638 And for some reason, that graduation date 575 00:33:28,706 --> 00:33:30,374 and I went, oh, my mom's not gonna be there. 576 00:33:30,441 --> 00:33:31,875 And that's what hit me. 577 00:33:31,943 --> 00:33:34,578 And, um, I... From there, 578 00:33:34,645 --> 00:33:36,747 it was just a different story altogether. 579 00:33:36,781 --> 00:33:39,449 But it wasn't until I was 18 that I, you know, 580 00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:41,752 really started to think about what I was missing. 581 00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:47,657 But it was definitely a cloud over the family, 582 00:33:47,725 --> 00:33:49,326 it always had been. 583 00:33:52,764 --> 00:33:55,532 She was murdered, but the why of it was... 584 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,135 The why and the who were just big open-ended, 585 00:33:58,202 --> 00:33:59,703 glaring questions. 586 00:34:11,115 --> 00:34:13,250 Yay. 587 00:34:22,193 --> 00:34:25,395 Michael had been in prison for 14 years. 588 00:34:25,463 --> 00:34:28,532 He'd lost appeal after appeal. 589 00:34:28,566 --> 00:34:31,568 But in 2002, the Innocence Project 590 00:34:31,636 --> 00:34:34,271 found out about his case from Bill Allison, 591 00:34:34,338 --> 00:34:35,839 his lawyer at trial. 592 00:34:42,013 --> 00:34:45,482 The Innocence Project is a group of lawyers 593 00:34:45,550 --> 00:34:47,484 that are some of the best and brightest people 594 00:34:47,552 --> 00:34:49,119 I've ever met, 595 00:34:49,187 --> 00:34:52,422 who were among the very first to consider 596 00:34:52,490 --> 00:34:55,792 how to use the new DNA technology, 597 00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:58,662 which was revolutionizing science. 598 00:34:58,696 --> 00:35:01,098 The focus is on freeing the innocent. 599 00:35:03,134 --> 00:35:05,635 In 2004, the New York Innocence Project 600 00:35:05,703 --> 00:35:08,972 called me and asked me to take the case. 601 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,174 It took me a minute to grasp it 602 00:35:11,242 --> 00:35:12,843 because I thought, are you... 603 00:35:12,910 --> 00:35:14,478 are you calling the right number? 604 00:35:14,512 --> 00:35:17,781 I'd never had any kind of a criminal case before. 605 00:35:17,849 --> 00:35:19,783 That argument could be made that I was the least 606 00:35:19,851 --> 00:35:21,685 qualified lawyer in Texas 607 00:35:21,752 --> 00:35:25,355 to take this level of a murder case. 608 00:35:25,423 --> 00:35:30,293 But, um, they said that they wanted me. 609 00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:32,496 I think that, uh, 610 00:35:32,563 --> 00:35:34,264 my medical malpractice experience 611 00:35:34,332 --> 00:35:35,966 and the stomach contents analysis 612 00:35:36,033 --> 00:35:38,435 was what brought the end of the case. 613 00:35:38,503 --> 00:35:41,238 Once in, I was in. 614 00:35:44,909 --> 00:35:46,376 One of the first things that struck me 615 00:35:46,444 --> 00:35:49,980 was the note he left for Christine. 616 00:35:50,047 --> 00:35:53,917 And I thought, wait a minute, 617 00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:56,419 if I was going to murder my wife, 618 00:35:56,454 --> 00:35:58,355 the last thing I would do 619 00:35:58,422 --> 00:36:00,891 is leave a note calling attention 620 00:36:00,958 --> 00:36:03,093 to an argument with my wife. 621 00:36:04,495 --> 00:36:06,096 It would make no sense. 622 00:36:07,765 --> 00:36:09,399 As I read the file, 623 00:36:09,467 --> 00:36:11,735 I found no real evidence of guilt, 624 00:36:11,802 --> 00:36:14,671 no witness, no eye witness of any violence, 625 00:36:14,739 --> 00:36:16,339 he had no record. 626 00:36:16,407 --> 00:36:19,209 Mr. Morton passed two lie detector tests 627 00:36:19,277 --> 00:36:21,678 at the time of his prosecution. 628 00:36:21,746 --> 00:36:23,346 And the medical examiner, 629 00:36:23,414 --> 00:36:25,048 he didn't see the body for a couple of days. 630 00:36:25,082 --> 00:36:26,983 So he couldn't do the standard means 631 00:36:27,051 --> 00:36:29,219 of timing death by Rigor mortis, 632 00:36:29,253 --> 00:36:30,921 or liver mortis. 633 00:36:30,988 --> 00:36:35,525 Um, he used an analysis of stomach contents solely 634 00:36:35,593 --> 00:36:37,160 as his means of timing death, 635 00:36:37,228 --> 00:36:38,728 which all of the medical literature says, 636 00:36:38,796 --> 00:36:40,397 you can't do. 637 00:36:40,464 --> 00:36:42,165 It should never have come into evidence at all. 638 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,568 And if that was the basis for the jury's finding, 639 00:36:44,635 --> 00:36:46,369 then there's nothing. 640 00:36:46,437 --> 00:36:49,573 So there's nothing really to convict the man at trial. 641 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,108 That doesn't mean he's innocent. 642 00:36:52,176 --> 00:36:53,910 But I was determined to do 643 00:36:54,011 --> 00:36:56,146 what I needed to do to find out. 644 00:36:59,617 --> 00:37:02,419 John Raley was teaching me the ropes 645 00:37:02,486 --> 00:37:04,421 as a law student and a law clerk. 646 00:37:04,488 --> 00:37:09,593 I'd always been interested in Innocence Project cases, 647 00:37:09,660 --> 00:37:11,428 and on Michael's case, 648 00:37:11,495 --> 00:37:13,597 they needed boots on the ground in Texas. 649 00:37:13,631 --> 00:37:16,099 So John Raley said, 650 00:37:16,167 --> 00:37:17,801 "Hey, kiddo, let's go do this thing." 651 00:37:17,868 --> 00:37:19,703 And it was kind of, you know, 652 00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:22,005 to give me an opportunity to do something like that. 653 00:37:23,808 --> 00:37:25,475 Jackie went with me to visit Michael 654 00:37:25,543 --> 00:37:27,277 the first time in prison. 655 00:37:27,345 --> 00:37:30,714 She was very excited about it. 656 00:37:30,748 --> 00:37:33,483 I was skeptical that he was innocent, 657 00:37:33,551 --> 00:37:35,118 to be honest with you. 658 00:37:35,186 --> 00:37:36,820 But I was absolutely sure 659 00:37:36,887 --> 00:37:38,455 that he did not get a fair trial. 660 00:37:38,489 --> 00:37:42,192 And the investigation was not full and complete. 661 00:37:42,226 --> 00:37:45,695 I knew that we needed to dig into this case 662 00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:49,532 to get an analysis of what the facts were at the time 663 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,535 Michael was arrested at the time of his trial. 664 00:37:52,603 --> 00:37:54,904 And then bring it forward to now. 665 00:37:56,941 --> 00:37:59,109 We drove to, 666 00:37:59,176 --> 00:38:00,810 I think it was called the Michael unit, 667 00:38:00,878 --> 00:38:03,280 actually in East Texas in the middle of nowhere. 668 00:38:07,385 --> 00:38:10,387 John and I got to go in and see Michael. 669 00:38:10,454 --> 00:38:12,689 And we actually met with him in, 670 00:38:12,757 --> 00:38:14,624 I think the family meeting area, 671 00:38:14,692 --> 00:38:18,228 which we thought was odd because we were counsel. 672 00:38:24,035 --> 00:38:29,039 I ask him what happened on August 12th and 13th, 1986? 673 00:38:29,106 --> 00:38:30,974 Take me through those two days, 674 00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:34,077 in as much detail as you can. And he did. 675 00:38:36,947 --> 00:38:40,850 After one of the best days of my life, 676 00:38:40,918 --> 00:38:43,453 5 o'clock next morning, the alarm went off. 677 00:38:43,521 --> 00:38:47,424 And I showered, shaved, dressed. 678 00:38:47,491 --> 00:38:50,393 And, uh, it's the last time I saw her alive. 679 00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:55,865 It was exactly the same as he had said at trial 680 00:38:55,933 --> 00:38:58,234 all of those years ago. 681 00:39:01,772 --> 00:39:04,040 John, when we first met Michael, 682 00:39:04,108 --> 00:39:07,043 he had no doubt that Michael was innocent. 683 00:39:08,946 --> 00:39:11,181 I don't claim to have psychic powers, 684 00:39:11,248 --> 00:39:12,849 but I cross examine people for a living 685 00:39:12,883 --> 00:39:15,552 and I can usually tell if people are fibbing. 686 00:39:15,619 --> 00:39:18,855 And there was nothing about this man 687 00:39:18,923 --> 00:39:20,690 that did not speak from a place 688 00:39:20,725 --> 00:39:23,526 of integrity and honesty. 689 00:39:27,264 --> 00:39:28,865 At one point, John excused himself 690 00:39:28,899 --> 00:39:30,433 to go the restroom and he'd left 691 00:39:30,501 --> 00:39:33,136 his sports jacket folded up on the table. 692 00:39:35,406 --> 00:39:37,707 It took every little bit of willpower I had 693 00:39:37,775 --> 00:39:39,442 not to reach out and just kind of touch it 694 00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:41,444 because it looks so soft and comfortable 695 00:39:41,512 --> 00:39:43,613 and it looked so good. 696 00:39:46,117 --> 00:39:50,053 The visit with Michael confirmed to me 697 00:39:50,121 --> 00:39:52,255 that he was actually innocent and then upped the ante, 698 00:39:52,323 --> 00:39:55,358 it is now no longer just a legal motion. 699 00:39:55,426 --> 00:39:57,861 Now there's an innocent man in prison. 700 00:39:57,895 --> 00:40:00,296 Now there's a brutal murderer maybe at large 701 00:40:00,364 --> 00:40:02,165 maybe killing other people. 702 00:40:10,307 --> 00:40:11,875 When John came home that night, 703 00:40:11,942 --> 00:40:14,043 he just... Was... 704 00:40:14,111 --> 00:40:17,113 He was excited and you could just tell 705 00:40:17,181 --> 00:40:18,882 it was another level of, 706 00:40:18,949 --> 00:40:20,850 um, intensity, you know, it just kind of like, 707 00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:23,219 okay, this is... This is the real deal. 708 00:40:23,287 --> 00:40:24,888 There's... I just met with a man 709 00:40:24,955 --> 00:40:27,424 that has been sitting in prison all these years, 710 00:40:27,491 --> 00:40:29,626 with this... He just lost everything. 711 00:40:29,693 --> 00:40:31,961 He's lost everything and he's innocent. 712 00:40:32,029 --> 00:40:34,631 He shouldn't be there. And he said, "Kelly, I... 713 00:40:34,698 --> 00:40:36,533 we just... I've got to get him out, 714 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,368 and, we've got to do it. This has gotta happen." 715 00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:42,405 And I just said, "Then do it. Do it John." 716 00:40:44,175 --> 00:40:48,278 Kelly Raley is the smartest and best person I know. 717 00:40:49,814 --> 00:40:53,683 She is brilliant. She's beautiful 718 00:40:53,751 --> 00:40:56,519 and, um, she's good. 719 00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:58,588 And I'm blessed to... 720 00:40:58,656 --> 00:41:00,323 That she even wanted to go out with me, 721 00:41:00,391 --> 00:41:02,025 let alone, marry me. 722 00:41:02,092 --> 00:41:03,793 Kelly is a very good lawyer. 723 00:41:03,861 --> 00:41:05,995 A very good investigator. A very good researcher. 724 00:41:06,063 --> 00:41:07,831 So she researched Williamson County 725 00:41:07,865 --> 00:41:10,733 and found out the political machinations 726 00:41:10,801 --> 00:41:13,102 I was going to be up against, and understood 727 00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:16,306 more than I did how hard it was going to be. 728 00:41:16,373 --> 00:41:18,141 John loves challenges. 729 00:41:18,209 --> 00:41:19,909 He's always loved challenges. 730 00:41:19,977 --> 00:41:21,311 He still loves challenges. 731 00:41:21,378 --> 00:41:23,613 And definitely, 732 00:41:23,681 --> 00:41:25,748 he's not the kind of person that gonna turn 733 00:41:25,816 --> 00:41:28,184 something down just because it might be 734 00:41:28,219 --> 00:41:30,119 a little bit out of his comfort zone. 735 00:41:30,187 --> 00:41:32,989 But, I don't want to call him naive because, you know, 736 00:41:33,057 --> 00:41:34,591 but he was naive. 737 00:41:34,658 --> 00:41:36,259 He really was. 738 00:41:38,829 --> 00:41:42,165 They just... They just had a real strong familial, 739 00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:45,535 political connection in that county for decades. 740 00:42:05,456 --> 00:42:07,657 You're not going to get these folks' cooperation 741 00:42:07,725 --> 00:42:11,561 because that puts a bad light on their mentors, 742 00:42:11,629 --> 00:42:12,896 their friends, their colleagues 743 00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:14,230 and they're... 744 00:42:14,298 --> 00:42:15,565 They're going to protect each other, 745 00:42:15,633 --> 00:42:18,067 so I said, "John, don't be, you know, 746 00:42:18,135 --> 00:42:19,536 don't be fooled by these guys. 747 00:42:19,603 --> 00:42:22,305 They're not going to play nice to you." 748 00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:25,041 That was really hard for me to grasp. 749 00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:28,011 There should not be any opposition 750 00:42:28,078 --> 00:42:30,046 to an honest search for truth. 751 00:42:30,114 --> 00:42:32,315 I had no idea, 752 00:42:32,383 --> 00:42:34,884 going into this how extensive it would be 753 00:42:34,952 --> 00:42:36,653 and how much work it would take." 754 00:42:39,356 --> 00:42:41,958 We, uh, we got a little team together 755 00:42:41,992 --> 00:42:43,660 and we started working. 756 00:42:45,529 --> 00:42:47,363 When we got the list of evidence 757 00:42:47,431 --> 00:42:49,465 that was still on file, 758 00:42:49,533 --> 00:42:52,435 we saw this bandana that had blood on it. 759 00:42:54,204 --> 00:42:58,041 There's a crime report from one of the deputy's, 760 00:42:58,108 --> 00:43:01,144 that notices that there is the dirty bandana, 761 00:43:01,211 --> 00:43:03,713 in this curb near a construction site 762 00:43:03,781 --> 00:43:06,482 about a hundred yards behind the house. 763 00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:08,051 He doesn't pick it up because he thinks... 764 00:43:08,118 --> 00:43:10,720 It looks... That it's been there too long. 765 00:43:10,754 --> 00:43:12,355 Christine Morton's brother, 766 00:43:12,423 --> 00:43:14,724 unimpressed with the investigated detail 767 00:43:14,758 --> 00:43:16,392 going into this case, 768 00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:18,528 does his own search, finds this bandana, 769 00:43:18,562 --> 00:43:20,964 picks it up, 770 00:43:21,031 --> 00:43:24,934 brings it back to the house and they put it into a, uh, 771 00:43:25,002 --> 00:43:28,638 a baggie and they bring it to the sheriff's office. 772 00:43:28,706 --> 00:43:31,541 And practically, force them to take it into evidence. 773 00:43:34,044 --> 00:43:37,347 It was noted to have blood on it. 774 00:43:37,414 --> 00:43:40,283 There was no DNA testing available back then. 775 00:43:40,351 --> 00:43:42,118 So, it was put in a bag 776 00:43:42,186 --> 00:43:44,887 and it was stored and it was ignored. 777 00:43:50,361 --> 00:43:52,128 Naturally, we wanted to try to do 778 00:43:52,196 --> 00:43:55,131 DNA testing on the bandana, 779 00:43:55,165 --> 00:43:58,067 uh, to see who's blood it was, 780 00:43:58,135 --> 00:44:01,070 thinking it might be Christine's blood. 781 00:44:01,138 --> 00:44:03,439 Intermingled with sweat, 782 00:44:03,507 --> 00:44:05,708 uh, skin cells, 783 00:44:05,776 --> 00:44:10,246 hair perhaps of the perpetuator. 784 00:44:10,314 --> 00:44:14,017 If we could get a solid DNA sample of those things, 785 00:44:14,084 --> 00:44:17,086 we could run it through the federal data bank 786 00:44:17,154 --> 00:44:20,890 and maybe identify the murderer. 787 00:44:20,958 --> 00:44:22,225 And so, 788 00:44:22,292 --> 00:44:23,693 uh, the focus of the case 789 00:44:23,727 --> 00:44:26,129 became the blue bandana. 790 00:44:27,765 --> 00:44:29,899 And it was just like this little time capsule 791 00:44:29,967 --> 00:44:32,402 waiting to be tested. 792 00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:39,542 We sent Jackie kind as a stealth 793 00:44:39,610 --> 00:44:41,577 to Williamson County. 794 00:44:43,681 --> 00:44:45,181 I went and found the court clerk 795 00:44:45,249 --> 00:44:48,084 and I looked for the friendliest lady 796 00:44:48,152 --> 00:44:50,853 I could find in the bunch 797 00:44:50,921 --> 00:44:53,156 and, um, asked if I can please 798 00:44:53,257 --> 00:44:54,957 see the evidence in this case, 799 00:44:55,025 --> 00:44:57,260 I needed to just have a look at it. 800 00:44:59,196 --> 00:45:01,497 I remember they had just moved in to a new building 801 00:45:01,565 --> 00:45:03,466 and everything was kind of in shambles, 802 00:45:03,534 --> 00:45:05,501 but she took me to the basement 803 00:45:05,569 --> 00:45:08,104 of that courthouse building 804 00:45:08,172 --> 00:45:11,741 and, um, and pointed me toward a corner and said, 805 00:45:11,809 --> 00:45:13,276 "It's probably over there." 806 00:45:13,343 --> 00:45:16,846 And she left me there. 807 00:45:16,914 --> 00:45:19,215 In a basement full of boxes. 808 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,688 But the blue bandana wasn't there. 809 00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:32,161 So she went to the sheriff's department 810 00:45:32,229 --> 00:45:35,198 and, um, they laughed at her face and told her, 811 00:45:35,265 --> 00:45:38,167 "No, you cannot see it." 812 00:45:38,235 --> 00:45:40,536 Now, why would they do that 813 00:45:40,604 --> 00:45:44,340 unless, the bandana could be a problem for them? 814 00:45:47,978 --> 00:45:49,979 In February of 2005, 815 00:45:50,047 --> 00:45:52,048 we filed our motion for DNA testing 816 00:45:52,116 --> 00:45:53,916 on the bloody bandana. 817 00:45:55,619 --> 00:45:57,587 If we could get a motion approved, 818 00:45:57,654 --> 00:46:02,258 that would force them to turn the bandana over for testing. 819 00:46:02,292 --> 00:46:04,160 The district attorney didn't even respond 820 00:46:04,228 --> 00:46:06,162 to our motion for 10 months. 821 00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:08,564 They kept asking for extensions. 822 00:46:08,632 --> 00:46:11,300 Which were inevitably granted. 823 00:46:13,704 --> 00:46:16,339 While this was happening, 824 00:46:16,406 --> 00:46:18,941 an innocent man was spending his life in a cage. 825 00:46:21,211 --> 00:46:24,013 The district attorney had convinced 826 00:46:24,081 --> 00:46:26,983 Christine's family that Michael was guilty 827 00:46:27,050 --> 00:46:29,852 and so Eric was raised by Christine's sister 828 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,121 to believe that his father killed his mother. 829 00:46:33,991 --> 00:46:36,359 There was court-ordered visitation. 830 00:46:36,426 --> 00:46:38,561 Eric would have to be brought to me 831 00:46:38,629 --> 00:46:42,465 every six months by my sister in law. 832 00:46:42,533 --> 00:46:45,434 Visitation is like oxygen, 833 00:46:45,502 --> 00:46:47,436 I would love seeing him, 834 00:46:47,471 --> 00:46:49,772 but I could also see that he was becoming 835 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,976 more distant as Eric got a little bit older 836 00:46:54,044 --> 00:46:56,412 and he started, you know, getting into puberty, 837 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,947 I got a letter from him that he said, 838 00:46:58,015 --> 00:47:01,417 he would like to, uh, suspend the visits, 839 00:47:01,485 --> 00:47:02,985 not do them anymore. 840 00:47:04,621 --> 00:47:07,456 And I thought about it, 841 00:47:07,491 --> 00:47:08,991 I kinda weighed the pros and cons 842 00:47:09,059 --> 00:47:10,893 and I wrote him back, and I said, 843 00:47:10,961 --> 00:47:15,264 "Well, I'll grant your wish 844 00:47:15,299 --> 00:47:16,732 but you got to come here 845 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,769 and look me in the eye and tell me that." 846 00:47:19,803 --> 00:47:21,904 We had our greetings and I asked him 847 00:47:21,972 --> 00:47:25,408 if this was our last visit and he... 848 00:47:25,475 --> 00:47:27,076 He wouldn't look me in the eye, 849 00:47:27,144 --> 00:47:29,579 he told me that, "Yeah, it's the last one." 850 00:47:31,181 --> 00:47:33,449 With all the bad things that had happened, 851 00:47:33,517 --> 00:47:36,919 uh, my wife's murder, my arrest and conviction, 852 00:47:36,987 --> 00:47:41,557 my life sentence, all of that, 853 00:47:41,625 --> 00:47:45,561 um, didn't do me in, 854 00:47:45,629 --> 00:47:48,865 I thought I was pretty tough and I could take it, 855 00:47:48,899 --> 00:47:51,968 but, um, when I lost him, 856 00:47:54,571 --> 00:47:56,806 that's what broke me. 857 00:48:00,677 --> 00:48:04,046 My father, was at the time a retired prosecutor, 858 00:48:04,114 --> 00:48:06,282 and he suggested I just call the district attorney 859 00:48:06,350 --> 00:48:09,151 and try to talk to him and reason with him, 860 00:48:09,219 --> 00:48:12,955 and so I did I called John Bradley, 861 00:48:13,023 --> 00:48:15,691 he had been prosecutor of the year of Texas, 862 00:48:15,759 --> 00:48:18,060 very powerful man. 863 00:48:18,128 --> 00:48:19,829 And so, 864 00:48:19,897 --> 00:48:24,033 I was negotiating with, 865 00:48:24,101 --> 00:48:26,269 a district attorney John Bradley, 866 00:48:26,336 --> 00:48:29,972 for a task that might reveal Ken Anderson, 867 00:48:30,007 --> 00:48:32,975 his mentor, now a judge, 868 00:48:33,043 --> 00:48:35,544 might have put an innocent person in prison 869 00:48:35,612 --> 00:48:37,546 and let the murderer go free. 870 00:48:37,614 --> 00:48:40,182 But and... I tried to, you know, 871 00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:42,018 talk to him just... 872 00:48:42,085 --> 00:48:44,353 On a normal level, and say, "Look, 873 00:48:44,421 --> 00:48:46,856 all we want to know is the truth 874 00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:49,792 and nothing bad can come from seeking truth. 875 00:48:49,860 --> 00:48:51,694 You know, Michael is where he is supposed to be, 876 00:48:51,762 --> 00:48:54,764 which is a good thing or he is innocent, 877 00:48:54,798 --> 00:48:56,532 which means there may be a brutal murderer 878 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,301 at large killing other people. 879 00:48:59,803 --> 00:49:02,672 Don't you want to find out?" 880 00:49:02,706 --> 00:49:07,343 Um, and he said that, uh, 881 00:49:07,411 --> 00:49:10,613 doing the test would muddy the waters. 882 00:49:10,681 --> 00:49:14,250 He said doing the test would muddy the waters. 883 00:49:14,318 --> 00:49:17,386 And I had no idea what he meant by that. 884 00:49:17,454 --> 00:49:20,556 And I said Mr. Bradley, truth clarifies. 885 00:49:22,492 --> 00:49:25,861 And, um, the battle was joined. 886 00:49:33,003 --> 00:49:35,171 Kelly gave me a great analogy one time, 887 00:49:35,238 --> 00:49:37,206 she said, it was like a split screen 888 00:49:37,274 --> 00:49:41,077 and one side of the screen is Michael alone in a cage 889 00:49:41,144 --> 00:49:44,981 and on the other side of the screen John and Kelly, 890 00:49:45,048 --> 00:49:46,482 and they were having our children 891 00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:48,017 and watching them grow 892 00:49:48,085 --> 00:49:49,752 and doing school activities with them, 893 00:49:49,820 --> 00:49:53,089 and girl scouts and boy scouts and sports. 894 00:49:53,156 --> 00:49:55,858 And they go to middle school and high school 895 00:49:55,926 --> 00:49:59,829 and off to college for that same time period. 896 00:49:59,896 --> 00:50:02,098 And that's always kind of haunted me 897 00:50:02,165 --> 00:50:05,301 and it was on my mind as we were fighting. 898 00:50:05,369 --> 00:50:07,403 He's alone in a cage. 899 00:50:07,471 --> 00:50:12,508 We have to keep fighting. We can't quit. We can't stop. 900 00:50:15,078 --> 00:50:18,180 On march 7th, 2008, 901 00:50:18,248 --> 00:50:20,082 we had our first hearing in the case. 902 00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:24,286 This is over three years after we filed our motion. 903 00:50:26,656 --> 00:50:28,557 And I just thought it would be a chance 904 00:50:28,625 --> 00:50:31,427 to make a record about what was going on. 905 00:50:33,130 --> 00:50:34,697 And here's what I said, 906 00:50:36,433 --> 00:50:38,467 "Your honor, there's a bloodstained bandana 907 00:50:38,535 --> 00:50:40,703 that was found at the crime scene. 908 00:50:40,771 --> 00:50:43,572 This bandana may contain the blood of the victim, 909 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:44,874 Christine Morton, 910 00:50:44,941 --> 00:50:46,442 but it may also contain 911 00:50:46,510 --> 00:50:49,311 skin cells, saliva, sweat 912 00:50:49,346 --> 00:50:52,114 that may contain the DNA of the murderer. 913 00:50:52,182 --> 00:50:55,818 These have never been subjected to DNA testing. 914 00:50:55,886 --> 00:50:59,922 There's no harm we believe in trying to seek the truth, 915 00:51:00,057 --> 00:51:01,390 and we... We don't understand 916 00:51:01,458 --> 00:51:03,759 why the state is resisting that. 917 00:51:03,827 --> 00:51:06,262 They have fought us every step of the way. 918 00:51:08,131 --> 00:51:10,232 If there is not enough DNA to do anything about it, 919 00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:13,536 at least we'll know we tried. 920 00:51:13,603 --> 00:51:15,671 Thank you, Judge." 921 00:51:18,842 --> 00:51:22,545 Well, the judge wouldn't do it. 922 00:51:25,549 --> 00:51:29,051 Because John Bradley didn't want him to do it, 923 00:51:29,119 --> 00:51:30,753 it's that simple. 924 00:51:32,355 --> 00:51:35,124 Mr. Bradley didn't even speak at the hearing. 925 00:51:35,158 --> 00:51:37,326 The fix was already in. 926 00:51:40,430 --> 00:51:42,231 John and I were sitting at the breakfast table, 927 00:51:42,265 --> 00:51:45,167 reading the Houston newspaper at breakfast 928 00:51:45,235 --> 00:51:46,802 and, we open up the... The newspaper 929 00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:50,106 and I saw it first 930 00:51:50,173 --> 00:51:51,340 and I almost had a heart attack. 931 00:51:51,374 --> 00:51:53,142 I was like, "John, 932 00:51:53,210 --> 00:51:56,712 Rick Perry just assigned a seat 933 00:51:56,780 --> 00:52:00,449 on the forensic science commission to John Bradley." 934 00:52:06,456 --> 00:52:07,656 I couldn't believe it. 935 00:52:07,724 --> 00:52:09,458 I just could not believe it that... 936 00:52:09,526 --> 00:52:12,328 That he was named to... To be the chair, 937 00:52:12,395 --> 00:52:15,464 not only to throw him on the commission that we'd... 938 00:52:15,499 --> 00:52:17,967 But then to name him as the chair of the commission. 939 00:52:19,736 --> 00:52:22,872 See, this is the man that won't let DNA be tested, 940 00:52:22,939 --> 00:52:24,507 won't... Won't allow a DNA test 941 00:52:24,574 --> 00:52:26,308 and he's now the head of our State's forensic, 942 00:52:26,376 --> 00:52:28,010 it just didn't make any sense to me 943 00:52:28,044 --> 00:52:30,112 and then I knew how deep the politics 944 00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:33,182 ran on this whole situation. 945 00:52:33,250 --> 00:52:35,050 This is, you know, all this... 946 00:52:35,118 --> 00:52:39,955 This political mishmash and gamesmanship 947 00:52:40,023 --> 00:52:43,058 with people's lives at stake and truth at stake. 948 00:52:46,830 --> 00:52:48,964 You know, there was a time, 949 00:52:48,999 --> 00:52:51,767 I... I've never told anybody this 950 00:52:51,835 --> 00:52:55,171 and I don't know that I should now, 951 00:52:55,238 --> 00:52:56,839 there was a time in the middle of this 952 00:52:56,907 --> 00:53:00,009 that the civil work was drying up 953 00:53:00,076 --> 00:53:03,145 and we were struggling financially. 954 00:53:04,681 --> 00:53:07,850 And there was a real temptation to focus 955 00:53:07,918 --> 00:53:09,618 on work that would bill, 956 00:53:09,653 --> 00:53:11,420 that I could make money for the family 957 00:53:11,488 --> 00:53:15,024 and not spend so much time on this pro bono case 958 00:53:15,091 --> 00:53:17,393 where we're up against it 959 00:53:17,427 --> 00:53:19,695 with these power structures and it's not working out, 960 00:53:19,763 --> 00:53:21,297 nothing good is happening. 961 00:53:23,066 --> 00:53:26,168 And, uh, that was a temptation, 962 00:53:28,238 --> 00:53:30,272 but I was also praying for guidance 963 00:53:30,340 --> 00:53:34,677 and direction and the answer was always, 964 00:53:34,744 --> 00:53:37,046 "keep going." 965 00:53:39,416 --> 00:53:42,618 I tried talking to District Attorney John Bradley again. 966 00:53:46,156 --> 00:53:48,791 He said he would allow us to test the hair 967 00:53:48,858 --> 00:53:51,460 that was on Christine's hand 968 00:53:51,528 --> 00:53:54,029 if we backed off on everything else, 969 00:53:54,064 --> 00:53:55,764 including the bloody bandana. 970 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,336 And I looked back at District Attorney Bradley 971 00:54:00,403 --> 00:54:02,004 and I said, "No, 972 00:54:02,072 --> 00:54:04,306 how stupid do you think we are? 973 00:54:04,374 --> 00:54:06,675 The hair is probably Michael's. 974 00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:08,444 The two of them slept in that bed. 975 00:54:08,511 --> 00:54:11,513 More likely than not, it's one of their hairs. 976 00:54:11,581 --> 00:54:14,316 But this is a case about the bloody bandana. 977 00:54:14,384 --> 00:54:16,285 If you're not gonna let us test the bloody bandana, 978 00:54:16,353 --> 00:54:19,021 we have nothing else to say." 979 00:54:19,089 --> 00:54:22,458 And he said, "Well, then we're done." 980 00:54:22,525 --> 00:54:25,027 And maybe it's because I had driven all the way 981 00:54:25,095 --> 00:54:28,264 from Houston to Georgetown and maybe 982 00:54:28,331 --> 00:54:31,800 it's because I was tired and maybe it's frustrating. 983 00:54:31,868 --> 00:54:33,669 But I said it loud enough that everybody 984 00:54:33,737 --> 00:54:35,638 in his office could hear, 985 00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:39,174 "What are you afraid of? 986 00:54:41,578 --> 00:54:43,379 Let me turn it on you Mr. Bradley, 987 00:54:43,413 --> 00:54:45,714 because what would you do if the test results 988 00:54:45,782 --> 00:54:48,384 exonerated him and identified someone else 989 00:54:48,451 --> 00:54:50,586 as the murderer of his wife, 990 00:54:50,654 --> 00:54:53,822 because I don't want to go all Jack Nicholson on you, 991 00:54:53,890 --> 00:54:56,358 but I can handle the truth. 992 00:54:56,426 --> 00:54:58,894 Can you, sir?" 993 00:54:58,962 --> 00:55:01,096 And then, I left. 994 00:55:04,467 --> 00:55:08,404 He was afraid of the truth. 995 00:55:08,471 --> 00:55:10,406 He feared truth. 996 00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:18,914 I was seriously concerned that day that... 997 00:55:18,982 --> 00:55:20,849 That he might actually have a stroke or something. 998 00:55:20,917 --> 00:55:22,184 It was that bad. I mean, his... 999 00:55:22,252 --> 00:55:24,987 His blood pressure was so elevated 1000 00:55:25,055 --> 00:55:28,891 and he was so intensely angry and I... 1001 00:55:28,925 --> 00:55:31,093 I just remember there was that turning point where it was, 1002 00:55:31,161 --> 00:55:33,028 like this is gonna kill my husband. 1003 00:55:43,173 --> 00:55:45,541 A few days later, it's a Saturday morning. 1004 00:55:45,608 --> 00:55:47,376 I got a call. 1005 00:55:47,444 --> 00:55:48,477 It was Michael. 1006 00:55:49,713 --> 00:55:51,747 He said, "Well... 1007 00:55:51,815 --> 00:55:53,515 I'm up for parole again." 1008 00:55:54,617 --> 00:55:57,219 And I said, "That's great." 1009 00:55:57,253 --> 00:55:58,987 He says, "There's just one catch." 1010 00:55:59,055 --> 00:56:01,090 "What?" I said, "What's the... What's the catch?" 1011 00:56:01,157 --> 00:56:05,094 He says, "I have to confess that I'm guilty of murder." 1012 00:56:09,032 --> 00:56:12,201 He's been in 22 years, his parents were elderly. 1013 00:56:12,268 --> 00:56:13,869 He didn't know where his son was. 1014 00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:17,773 Who would have really blamed him if he'd said, 1015 00:56:17,841 --> 00:56:21,243 "Yeah, I'm guilty. I'm really sorry, let me go." 1016 00:56:21,277 --> 00:56:22,644 He said... 1017 00:56:23,847 --> 00:56:26,515 "All I have left is my actual innocence. 1018 00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:32,187 And if I have to be in prison the rest of my life... 1019 00:56:33,623 --> 00:56:35,324 I'm not giving that up." 1020 00:56:42,866 --> 00:56:45,367 I didn't really necessarily... 1021 00:56:45,435 --> 00:56:48,103 make a deal with God, I wasn't gonna lie to get out. 1022 00:56:48,171 --> 00:56:49,371 But... 1023 00:56:50,807 --> 00:56:52,941 there was that, um... 1024 00:56:55,378 --> 00:56:57,846 That was there, I wasn't gonna lie. 1025 00:56:57,914 --> 00:57:00,382 When he said this, I just felt a rush of... 1026 00:57:02,018 --> 00:57:03,352 emotion. 1027 00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:04,920 And I said... 1028 00:57:06,122 --> 00:57:07,823 "I will never quit... 1029 00:57:10,894 --> 00:57:13,295 as long as I'm... 1030 00:57:13,363 --> 00:57:14,630 breathing air. 1031 00:57:16,065 --> 00:57:18,133 I'm fighting to get you out of prison." 1032 00:57:30,447 --> 00:57:31,947 I was getting ready to go into a hearing 1033 00:57:32,015 --> 00:57:33,449 against John Bradley. 1034 00:57:34,717 --> 00:57:37,653 And I call my pastor. 1035 00:57:37,687 --> 00:57:39,621 And I said, 1036 00:57:39,689 --> 00:57:41,490 "I don't think I have a chance." 1037 00:57:44,194 --> 00:57:46,829 He said, "He's on it." 1038 00:57:46,896 --> 00:57:49,398 And he called me back and he said, 1039 00:57:49,466 --> 00:57:52,668 "I have dozens of people that are going to pray for you... 1040 00:57:52,735 --> 00:57:54,169 right now and at the moment 1041 00:57:54,237 --> 00:57:55,671 of the beginning of the hearing. 1042 00:57:55,738 --> 00:57:57,206 It's all organized." 1043 00:58:03,580 --> 00:58:05,180 He told me, "This is the most important thing 1044 00:58:05,248 --> 00:58:06,915 you'll ever do as a lawyer." 1045 00:58:13,590 --> 00:58:16,458 We've been fighting this fight for six years now. 1046 00:58:17,694 --> 00:58:20,629 We went to Federal Court once. 1047 00:58:20,697 --> 00:58:23,732 We've been to the Court of Appeals twice. 1048 00:58:23,766 --> 00:58:26,201 So Nina Morrison, my co-counsel 1049 00:58:26,269 --> 00:58:27,970 with the Innocence Project and I 1050 00:58:28,037 --> 00:58:30,939 appear before the third Court of Appeals 1051 00:58:31,007 --> 00:58:33,675 to make oral argument. 1052 00:58:33,743 --> 00:58:36,144 And it was a conservative Court of Appeals... 1053 00:58:37,647 --> 00:58:40,449 was also a very intelligent Court of Appeals, 1054 00:58:40,517 --> 00:58:42,618 and a fair-minded Court of Appeals. 1055 00:58:43,753 --> 00:58:45,454 And it was so refreshing 1056 00:58:45,522 --> 00:58:47,189 to have fresh eyes on the case. 1057 00:58:49,759 --> 00:58:51,760 I said, "This bloody bandanna 1058 00:58:51,794 --> 00:58:54,062 was the be all and end all about the case. 1059 00:58:54,130 --> 00:58:57,666 And there was no legal basis to deny 1060 00:58:57,734 --> 00:58:59,167 testing of the bloody bandana. 1061 00:58:59,235 --> 00:59:01,436 None whatsoever." 1062 00:59:01,504 --> 00:59:04,506 They asked the question that everybody seems to ask. 1063 00:59:05,942 --> 00:59:08,043 What if the DNA testing comes out 1064 00:59:08,111 --> 00:59:09,444 against your client? 1065 00:59:11,014 --> 00:59:14,283 And I said, "There's only one way to find out, 1066 00:59:14,350 --> 00:59:15,517 do the test." 1067 00:59:18,321 --> 00:59:21,690 While their deliberation was pending, 1068 00:59:21,758 --> 00:59:24,593 John Bradley took to the media 1069 00:59:24,661 --> 00:59:26,895 and gave an interview. 1070 00:59:26,963 --> 00:59:28,697 And he said, 1071 00:59:28,798 --> 00:59:31,300 "If Michael Morton will promise... 1072 00:59:33,069 --> 00:59:36,772 that if the DNA results are inconclusive... 1073 00:59:38,107 --> 00:59:39,875 he will confess guilt..." 1074 00:59:41,844 --> 00:59:44,313 That I will agree now to a DNA test. 1075 00:59:47,417 --> 00:59:51,787 Saying that if Michael agree in advance to confess guilt, 1076 00:59:51,854 --> 00:59:55,691 if the DNA results are inconclusive, 1077 00:59:55,758 --> 00:59:58,360 that's just playing with people's futures. 1078 00:59:59,529 --> 01:00:00,963 Tyrants do that. 1079 01:00:03,499 --> 01:00:07,235 I thought we have fought too hard 1080 01:00:07,303 --> 01:00:11,873 and we've come too far to get to this moment 1081 01:00:11,941 --> 01:00:13,875 and have it taken away. 1082 01:00:15,578 --> 01:00:18,747 And I said, "Judge, we're paying for this. 1083 01:00:18,815 --> 01:00:21,216 All we want to know is the truth. 1084 01:00:22,752 --> 01:00:26,688 And so despite DA Bradley's efforts, 1085 01:00:26,756 --> 01:00:30,759 the Court of Appeals ruled that we could do DNA testing 1086 01:00:30,827 --> 01:00:32,127 on the bloody bandanna. 1087 01:00:39,636 --> 01:00:41,637 June of 2011, 1088 01:00:41,704 --> 01:00:43,872 the first set of test results came in... 1089 01:00:45,408 --> 01:00:48,310 and they revealed that the blood on the bandanna 1090 01:00:48,378 --> 01:00:52,314 was Christine Morton's... 1091 01:00:52,382 --> 01:00:56,518 intermingled with the sweat and the skin cells 1092 01:00:56,586 --> 01:01:01,189 of a man who was not Michael Morton. 1093 01:01:15,805 --> 01:01:20,409 My phone rang while I was on a bus, 1094 01:01:20,476 --> 01:01:22,778 and John was just elated. 1095 01:01:22,845 --> 01:01:25,614 He was shouting, "They got a hit." 1096 01:01:28,217 --> 01:01:31,019 After... When we got the first set of results, 1097 01:01:31,054 --> 01:01:34,856 I drove to visit Michael in prison. 1098 01:01:34,924 --> 01:01:38,527 John Raley told me about the hit 1099 01:01:38,594 --> 01:01:40,395 and... 1100 01:01:40,463 --> 01:01:42,864 didn't have any specifics or any names yet. 1101 01:01:42,899 --> 01:01:44,433 But bingo. 1102 01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:47,669 I bounced off the walls a couple of times. 1103 01:01:47,737 --> 01:01:49,838 I stood up, I sat down, and finally the told me, 1104 01:01:49,906 --> 01:01:52,808 "Okay. Take a breath." 1105 01:01:52,875 --> 01:01:54,543 I didn't know how long things were gonna take 1106 01:01:54,610 --> 01:01:57,312 is probably gonna be six, nine months something. 1107 01:01:58,781 --> 01:02:02,718 Now, we have to run the DNA results 1108 01:02:02,785 --> 01:02:07,055 on the man through the federal CODIS databank 1109 01:02:07,123 --> 01:02:09,758 to see if we get a hit on a known perpetrator. 1110 01:02:17,867 --> 01:02:19,568 The hit came in. 1111 01:02:19,635 --> 01:02:21,670 The DNA of the man on the bandanna 1112 01:02:21,738 --> 01:02:24,039 is Mark Alan Norwood. 1113 01:02:24,107 --> 01:02:28,410 Who had been in and out of prison for years. 1114 01:02:28,478 --> 01:02:31,113 So an innocent man is in prison 1115 01:02:31,180 --> 01:02:32,514 and a murderer is out there. 1116 01:02:34,550 --> 01:02:36,885 And District Attorney, John Bradley, 1117 01:02:36,919 --> 01:02:39,387 is still fighting against the release of Michael Morton 1118 01:02:39,455 --> 01:02:40,956 saying the bandanna doesn't matter 1119 01:02:40,990 --> 01:02:43,658 thinking of goofy theories. 1120 01:02:43,726 --> 01:02:46,328 Like maybe Michael killed Christine 1121 01:02:46,395 --> 01:02:49,131 and then went out and found a bandanna out back, 1122 01:02:49,165 --> 01:02:51,066 and then brought it in and dipped 1123 01:02:51,134 --> 01:02:52,534 Christine's blood in it, 1124 01:02:52,568 --> 01:02:54,536 and then maybe wearing gloves at the time, 1125 01:02:54,604 --> 01:02:56,304 and then took it back and dropped it again, 1126 01:02:56,372 --> 01:02:59,074 or maybe aliens abducted him. 1127 01:02:59,142 --> 01:03:02,344 I... You know, it was just crazy stuff. 1128 01:03:03,446 --> 01:03:04,980 Amazing, isn't it? 1129 01:03:07,517 --> 01:03:09,084 But the momentum increased. 1130 01:03:24,467 --> 01:03:26,635 Our freedom of information act 1131 01:03:26,702 --> 01:03:29,437 request for the district attorney's complete file 1132 01:03:29,505 --> 01:03:30,972 was a game-changer. 1133 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,474 It changed everything. 1134 01:03:34,277 --> 01:03:38,046 When I was able to finally get my hands on the file, 1135 01:03:38,114 --> 01:03:41,516 I saw that the evidence of Michael's innocence 1136 01:03:41,584 --> 01:03:43,451 was in the district attorney's file 1137 01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:44,986 and had been concealed. 1138 01:03:49,592 --> 01:03:51,960 There was a big footprint in the mud there 1139 01:03:52,028 --> 01:03:55,163 that nobody had ever done a plaster cast of later. 1140 01:03:57,433 --> 01:03:59,301 There were strange fingerprints 1141 01:03:59,368 --> 01:04:01,303 on the sliding glass door. 1142 01:04:01,370 --> 01:04:03,605 Nobody ever ran those prints. 1143 01:04:03,673 --> 01:04:06,708 There was a sighting of a strange man 1144 01:04:06,776 --> 01:04:09,544 in a green van during the days 1145 01:04:09,612 --> 01:04:11,213 before the murder, 1146 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,549 in the area where the bloody bandanna was found, 1147 01:04:14,617 --> 01:04:16,585 and they don't follow the lead? 1148 01:04:18,754 --> 01:04:21,356 Another piece of evidence that was concealed 1149 01:04:21,424 --> 01:04:26,161 and this is crucial and absolutely heartbreaking. 1150 01:04:26,229 --> 01:04:29,831 Eric talked to his maternal grandmother, 1151 01:04:29,932 --> 01:04:31,333 Christine's mother, 1152 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,435 on the day of Christine's funeral. 1153 01:04:36,172 --> 01:04:39,140 She wrote down verbatim what Eric told her. 1154 01:05:41,337 --> 01:05:43,605 And then the key portion. 1155 01:05:56,519 --> 01:05:58,286 This was in their file. 1156 01:06:00,656 --> 01:06:02,924 And they concealed it... 1157 01:06:02,992 --> 01:06:06,094 from the defense, from the court, 1158 01:06:06,162 --> 01:06:07,295 and from the jury. 1159 01:06:08,764 --> 01:06:12,334 They knew, they knew he was innocent. 1160 01:06:12,401 --> 01:06:16,838 And they sent an innocent man to prison for life... 1161 01:06:16,906 --> 01:06:19,140 and they let the monster who killed his wife 1162 01:06:19,208 --> 01:06:21,943 go free to kill again. 1163 01:06:28,284 --> 01:06:29,584 We have a tiny little law firm 1164 01:06:29,652 --> 01:06:31,753 and everybody was involved in the case 1165 01:06:31,821 --> 01:06:34,522 in one way or another trying to help. 1166 01:06:34,590 --> 01:06:38,526 We'd been investigating Mark Alan Norwood. 1167 01:06:38,594 --> 01:06:41,696 We are not law enforcement, but we're finding ourselves 1168 01:06:41,764 --> 01:06:44,532 kind of being like law enforcement. 1169 01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,168 We wanted to see if there were other cold cases 1170 01:06:47,236 --> 01:06:50,071 that lined up with Christine Morton's. 1171 01:06:50,139 --> 01:06:54,075 There's a cold case website for unsolved murders. 1172 01:06:54,143 --> 01:06:58,346 My wife, Kelly, had found it a couple of years earlier. 1173 01:06:58,414 --> 01:07:02,550 A couple of paralegals from our firm, 1174 01:07:02,618 --> 01:07:04,252 Cynthia Martinez and Kay Canobie 1175 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,388 were playing around with this website. 1176 01:07:08,424 --> 01:07:10,558 Well, I feel like 1177 01:07:10,626 --> 01:07:13,895 I've always had some sort of like... 1178 01:07:13,963 --> 01:07:17,699 private investigator-ish type of personality 1179 01:07:17,767 --> 01:07:20,502 and my parents always just said that I was nosy. 1180 01:07:22,738 --> 01:07:25,840 We were searching cold cases in Travis County 1181 01:07:25,908 --> 01:07:28,510 and just scrolling through the pages 1182 01:07:28,577 --> 01:07:32,514 and then we came across a lady that looked 1183 01:07:32,581 --> 01:07:34,349 very similar to Christine Morton 1184 01:07:34,417 --> 01:07:36,718 and her name was Debra Jan Baker. 1185 01:07:38,421 --> 01:07:42,357 Debra Jean Baker had been bludgeoned to death 1186 01:07:42,458 --> 01:07:46,094 in her home in a very similar way to Christine Morton. 1187 01:07:50,299 --> 01:07:52,934 And we found out where Mark Alan Norwood 1188 01:07:53,002 --> 01:07:56,137 was living in Austin at the time 1189 01:07:56,205 --> 01:07:59,641 of Christine Morton's murder. 1190 01:07:59,708 --> 01:08:02,577 So I thought let's compare Ms. Baker's address 1191 01:08:02,611 --> 01:08:04,312 to Mr. Norwood's address 1192 01:08:04,380 --> 01:08:07,015 and see how far apart their houses are. 1193 01:08:07,083 --> 01:08:08,983 And in turned out, 1194 01:08:09,051 --> 01:08:11,586 their houses were one street apart. 1195 01:08:14,523 --> 01:08:16,357 And their... The backs of their houses 1196 01:08:16,425 --> 01:08:18,026 kind of faced to each other, they were just kind of like 1197 01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:20,528 diagonally across from each other. 1198 01:08:20,596 --> 01:08:22,964 So they were very close. 1199 01:08:22,998 --> 01:08:25,467 I mean that kind of, was like, you know, 1200 01:08:25,534 --> 01:08:26,634 that was big for us. 1201 01:08:26,702 --> 01:08:27,669 We felt like it was big. 1202 01:08:27,736 --> 01:08:29,370 We didn't know at that time 1203 01:08:29,438 --> 01:08:31,106 how big it was gonna be but... 1204 01:08:33,542 --> 01:08:35,643 And we thought, "Oh, my God. 1205 01:08:36,912 --> 01:08:39,481 We have to... We have to tell someone. 1206 01:08:39,515 --> 01:08:40,982 We have to tell law enforcement." 1207 01:08:42,251 --> 01:08:44,152 And so we found that... 1208 01:08:44,220 --> 01:08:48,022 that Debra Jan Baker was killed in Travis County. 1209 01:08:48,090 --> 01:08:49,524 We didn't trust the District Attorney 1210 01:08:49,592 --> 01:08:52,026 of Williamson County, but maybe we can tell 1211 01:08:52,094 --> 01:08:54,362 the District Attorney of Travis County. 1212 01:08:57,466 --> 01:08:59,901 Nina Morrison and I went together 1213 01:09:00,035 --> 01:09:02,570 to the District Attorney and, uh, 1214 01:09:02,638 --> 01:09:04,572 I remember it was a very hot day 1215 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,174 and we had to walk about a half a mile 1216 01:09:06,242 --> 01:09:07,375 before we got there. 1217 01:09:07,443 --> 01:09:09,878 We came in drenched with sweat. 1218 01:09:09,945 --> 01:09:11,579 And all these nice people were waiting for us 1219 01:09:11,647 --> 01:09:13,248 in this conference room. 1220 01:09:15,384 --> 01:09:17,085 John was very passionate. 1221 01:09:17,153 --> 01:09:19,154 You could tell that he... 1222 01:09:19,221 --> 01:09:21,089 he knew... 1223 01:09:21,157 --> 01:09:24,058 that Michael Morton was innocent. 1224 01:09:24,126 --> 01:09:27,395 And it made me sick to my stomach. 1225 01:09:27,463 --> 01:09:29,998 So my primary goal 1226 01:09:30,065 --> 01:09:33,568 was to solve the Debra Baker case. 1227 01:09:33,636 --> 01:09:35,003 We were able to go back, 1228 01:09:35,070 --> 01:09:36,204 comb through the evidence we had 1229 01:09:36,272 --> 01:09:38,239 in the Debra Baker case 1230 01:09:38,307 --> 01:09:40,475 and we had identified pubic hairs 1231 01:09:40,543 --> 01:09:42,377 that were found on the pink comforter... 1232 01:09:46,615 --> 01:09:49,450 and the blue towel from the bathroom. 1233 01:09:51,287 --> 01:09:54,088 And had them sent off to the laboratory, 1234 01:09:54,156 --> 01:09:56,324 which revealed that... 1235 01:09:56,392 --> 01:10:00,828 we definitively had identified Mark Alan Norwood 1236 01:10:00,896 --> 01:10:03,698 as being the perpetrator 1237 01:10:03,732 --> 01:10:05,733 in the death of Debra Baker. 1238 01:10:09,205 --> 01:10:11,573 I remember saying... 1239 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,408 "Oh, wow, this is it." 1240 01:10:13,475 --> 01:10:15,076 An innocent man in prison, 1241 01:10:15,144 --> 01:10:17,512 a murderer out there. 1242 01:10:18,614 --> 01:10:20,348 There's no feeling like that. 1243 01:10:22,451 --> 01:10:23,918 Norwood lived with his mom, 1244 01:10:23,986 --> 01:10:25,720 we figured out where he lived, 1245 01:10:25,754 --> 01:10:27,755 and we informed the detectives 1246 01:10:27,823 --> 01:10:28,890 who paid him a visit. 1247 01:11:21,377 --> 01:11:23,544 Today, the Williamson County Sheriff's office has arrested 1248 01:11:23,646 --> 01:11:25,813 Mark Alan Norwood for the murder 1249 01:11:25,881 --> 01:11:27,215 of Christine Morton, 1250 01:11:27,249 --> 01:11:29,884 which occurred on August 13th, 1986. 1251 01:11:34,723 --> 01:11:37,225 There's so much... so much joy 1252 01:11:37,293 --> 01:11:40,295 and so much peace that comes over you, 1253 01:11:40,362 --> 01:11:42,497 that they had found the other killer, 1254 01:11:42,564 --> 01:11:43,965 that proved to me that day 1255 01:11:43,999 --> 01:11:46,434 that there is a God and a Holy Spirit 1256 01:11:46,502 --> 01:11:48,102 looking down over us. 1257 01:11:50,272 --> 01:11:52,040 We were very happy about that, 1258 01:11:52,107 --> 01:11:55,677 but the Baker family deserved justice. 1259 01:11:55,744 --> 01:11:58,313 This is about them too. 1260 01:11:58,380 --> 01:12:00,281 That was it. It's finally like, okay. 1261 01:12:00,316 --> 01:12:02,050 They're actually looking at this again, 1262 01:12:02,117 --> 01:12:04,585 they're actually got do something about this. 1263 01:12:07,056 --> 01:12:08,523 We got word that Ken Anderson 1264 01:12:08,557 --> 01:12:10,291 was gonna do a press conference. 1265 01:12:10,359 --> 01:12:12,627 I went, "Oh, gotta go... gotta go to this thing," 1266 01:12:12,695 --> 01:12:14,462 and we booked it up to Georgetown 1267 01:12:14,530 --> 01:12:15,963 and my aunt met me there. 1268 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,767 And, it was just a small crowd, 1269 01:12:19,835 --> 01:12:21,703 it was mostly just reporters and Ken Anderson said, 1270 01:12:21,770 --> 01:12:23,638 "The system got it wrong." 1271 01:12:23,706 --> 01:12:25,340 In my heart, 1272 01:12:25,407 --> 01:12:28,609 I know there was no misconduct whatsoever. 1273 01:12:28,677 --> 01:12:30,211 I believe that the prosecutors 1274 01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:32,680 fully complied with all the orders of the court. 1275 01:12:32,715 --> 01:12:34,916 When Ken went inside, he didn't take any questions 1276 01:12:34,983 --> 01:12:37,018 that I remember, but I looked up for my phone, 1277 01:12:37,052 --> 01:12:38,453 , 1278 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,088 I'm surrounded and cornered... 1279 01:12:40,155 --> 01:12:42,357 Literally cornered by reporters 1280 01:12:42,424 --> 01:12:44,459 and I feel like being in a zombie movie 1281 01:12:44,526 --> 01:12:47,161 when they've just crawling on top of me. 1282 01:12:49,331 --> 01:12:51,833 He's not holding himself accountable. 1283 01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:53,601 He's making a lot of excuses. 1284 01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:56,571 The fact that he let a man 1285 01:12:56,638 --> 01:12:59,073 go to kill my mother is... more than enough reason. 1286 01:12:59,141 --> 01:13:01,376 I mean, if he really feels bad, he should resign. 1287 01:13:01,443 --> 01:13:03,277 Prove it and resign 1288 01:13:03,345 --> 01:13:05,279 and retire to Florida somewhere. 1289 01:13:05,314 --> 01:13:06,914 Everything we do has consequences 1290 01:13:06,982 --> 01:13:08,750 and that's one of the consequences of what he did 1291 01:13:08,817 --> 01:13:10,785 was that a killer was out there. 1292 01:13:10,853 --> 01:13:12,854 You can't play the what-if game forever, 1293 01:13:12,921 --> 01:13:14,922 but if I'm gonna play it right there if... 1294 01:13:14,990 --> 01:13:18,259 What if Michael had not been the prime suspect 1295 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:19,994 and the only suspect that we know of. 1296 01:13:21,463 --> 01:13:22,964 Mom could've still been alive 1297 01:13:23,031 --> 01:13:25,466 if he hadn't done some of the things he'd done. 1298 01:13:25,534 --> 01:13:27,635 So I do still, to this day, 1299 01:13:27,703 --> 01:13:30,405 hold Ken Anderson was responsible for that. 1300 01:13:36,011 --> 01:13:37,044 Yes. 1301 01:13:39,214 --> 01:13:40,681 Yes. I do believe that. 1302 01:13:40,749 --> 01:13:42,350 I think if they had followed their leads, 1303 01:13:42,384 --> 01:13:45,052 they would've had Norwood within a few weeks. 1304 01:13:48,857 --> 01:13:52,193 After the Baker case, and that hit, 1305 01:13:52,261 --> 01:13:55,696 the state had no place else to maneuver. 1306 01:13:55,764 --> 01:13:57,365 The court of public opinion 1307 01:13:57,399 --> 01:13:59,667 is becoming squarely against them. 1308 01:13:59,735 --> 01:14:01,836 The news media is picking up that... 1309 01:14:01,904 --> 01:14:04,472 There are these DNA hits and people were asking 1310 01:14:04,540 --> 01:14:06,941 why is Michael Morton still in prison? 1311 01:14:07,009 --> 01:14:08,476 On Monday, Bradley, who was not 1312 01:14:08,544 --> 01:14:10,445 the original prosecuting attorney, 1313 01:14:10,512 --> 01:14:13,848 dodged questions about why? 1314 01:14:13,916 --> 01:14:17,418 So, we were able to negotiate... 1315 01:14:18,420 --> 01:14:19,987 his release. 1316 01:14:31,967 --> 01:14:34,368 It was, uh, somewhat chaotic. 1317 01:14:34,436 --> 01:14:37,538 There was a precession, cameras were everywhere, 1318 01:14:37,606 --> 01:14:39,774 people, I didn't know which way we were going. 1319 01:14:41,877 --> 01:14:43,978 Fortunately the sun was beaming down right there 1320 01:14:44,046 --> 01:14:47,014 and it was just beautiful, kind of fall day. 1321 01:14:48,484 --> 01:14:50,251 The sun felt so good on my face. 1322 01:14:50,319 --> 01:14:53,588 I kinda tilt my head back like of getting a sun tan 1323 01:14:53,655 --> 01:14:56,491 or something trying to just drink it in. 1324 01:14:58,494 --> 01:15:01,062 And he said the colors were so bright. 1325 01:15:01,129 --> 01:15:03,030 And it was so beautiful. 1326 01:15:03,098 --> 01:15:06,167 It was one of those lifetime moments 1327 01:15:06,235 --> 01:15:09,036 that you cherish, forever. 1328 01:15:09,104 --> 01:15:11,572 He's not on anybody's payroll. 1329 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,708 I had no money to give him 1330 01:15:13,775 --> 01:15:18,012 to publicly broadcast good things about you that say 1331 01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,580 you know, this is a... 1332 01:15:23,619 --> 01:15:26,087 To this day... 1333 01:15:27,723 --> 01:15:29,423 He's my friend... 1334 01:15:31,727 --> 01:15:33,728 and he's my brother. 1335 01:15:33,795 --> 01:15:37,665 So we made arrangements to meet for dinner later... 1336 01:15:39,167 --> 01:15:43,437 and we sat over dinner, we had... He had a steak. 1337 01:15:43,505 --> 01:15:46,440 And I remember that he was having his knife and fork, 1338 01:15:46,508 --> 01:15:48,476 and he was kind of, like... 1339 01:15:48,544 --> 01:15:50,811 And I said, "You okay, man?" 1340 01:15:50,879 --> 01:15:53,414 He was, "I'm trying to remember how to do this. 1341 01:15:55,050 --> 01:15:57,418 I haven't held a knife and a fork for 25 years." 1342 01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,121 Reagan was president when he went in, 1343 01:16:00,188 --> 01:16:01,622 he'd never held a cell phone. 1344 01:16:01,657 --> 01:16:03,291 And we're telling him about cell phones, like... 1345 01:16:03,358 --> 01:16:04,792 He goes, "I heard about these. 1346 01:16:04,860 --> 01:16:06,827 I heard you can send a picture." 1347 01:16:06,895 --> 01:16:09,797 And he said, "A picture?" 1348 01:16:09,865 --> 01:16:13,734 They go, "Michael, you can send a movie." 1349 01:16:15,837 --> 01:16:17,572 Can you imagine? 1350 01:16:22,711 --> 01:16:24,779 My role in this case was that, um, 1351 01:16:24,846 --> 01:16:26,213 I'm an Assistant Attorney General 1352 01:16:26,281 --> 01:16:27,515 for the state of Texas 1353 01:16:27,583 --> 01:16:29,951 and so I was brought in to prosecute 1354 01:16:30,018 --> 01:16:31,552 the Mark Norwood case. 1355 01:16:37,059 --> 01:16:39,160 When all of this began... 1356 01:16:40,963 --> 01:16:44,265 there was the investigation into Christine's murder. 1357 01:16:44,333 --> 01:16:47,335 Separate and apart from that was the realization 1358 01:16:47,402 --> 01:16:49,971 that there was another murder, Debra Baker's murder, 1359 01:16:50,038 --> 01:16:52,173 that bore striking similarities 1360 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,775 that may very well be connected. 1361 01:16:54,843 --> 01:16:56,978 I didn't know at that point in time 1362 01:16:57,045 --> 01:17:00,114 whether or not Debra's case would be tried. 1363 01:17:03,919 --> 01:17:06,654 When we met with the DA's office 1364 01:17:06,688 --> 01:17:08,656 and they said, 1365 01:17:08,724 --> 01:17:11,459 "You know, we don't think we necessarily wanna do this. 1366 01:17:11,493 --> 01:17:14,061 Just be taxpayer paying for another trial. 1367 01:17:14,129 --> 01:17:16,330 I was livid 1368 01:17:16,398 --> 01:17:19,266 and we all made it very clear 1369 01:17:19,334 --> 01:17:21,135 that this was not gonna fly. 1370 01:17:21,203 --> 01:17:24,338 This is not gonna happen because we wanted mom 1371 01:17:24,406 --> 01:17:27,008 to have her own story that she was... 1372 01:17:27,075 --> 01:17:30,711 she was not just a murder victim. 1373 01:17:30,779 --> 01:17:32,913 And one of my classes that was taught 1374 01:17:32,981 --> 01:17:37,251 by Travis County Sheriff, he kept... 1375 01:17:37,319 --> 01:17:38,586 He was talking about it and he kept saying, 1376 01:17:38,654 --> 01:17:39,854 "There's this other woman." 1377 01:17:39,888 --> 01:17:42,056 I was like, "No. Her name was Debra." 1378 01:17:42,124 --> 01:17:44,191 And he said, "Who cares?" 1379 01:17:44,226 --> 01:17:45,760 I do. I do. 1380 01:17:45,827 --> 01:17:47,228 I am her daughter, I care. 1381 01:17:51,233 --> 01:17:52,900 We can't stop what happened 1382 01:17:52,968 --> 01:17:55,236 and the only thing you can do for someone at that point 1383 01:17:55,303 --> 01:17:57,938 is to keep fighting for them 1384 01:17:58,006 --> 01:18:00,408 to get what they deserve in the end, 1385 01:18:00,475 --> 01:18:03,644 which in this case is a... is a trial and a conviction. 1386 01:18:15,657 --> 01:18:18,959 I don't see evil very much in my life. 1387 01:18:24,666 --> 01:18:27,535 When Mark Alan Norwood walked into the courtroom, 1388 01:18:27,602 --> 01:18:31,105 I saw him and I realized... 1389 01:18:31,173 --> 01:18:32,707 that's what it looks like. 1390 01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:36,944 That's evil. 1391 01:18:37,012 --> 01:18:39,480 The ironies are so vast in this case 1392 01:18:39,548 --> 01:18:42,316 that the first time Michael was in a courtroom, 1393 01:18:42,384 --> 01:18:43,718 he was the guy on trial, 1394 01:18:43,785 --> 01:18:45,119 and the second time he was in the courtroom, 1395 01:18:45,187 --> 01:18:46,587 he was my first witness. 1396 01:18:47,956 --> 01:18:49,990 It was very, very surreal. 1397 01:18:50,058 --> 01:18:53,327 As you might imagine. 1398 01:18:53,395 --> 01:18:57,698 It was no secret that whoever was gonna try Mark Norwood 1399 01:18:57,733 --> 01:19:00,267 for one of the murders would probably want 1400 01:19:00,335 --> 01:19:02,603 to let the jury know about the other murder 1401 01:19:02,671 --> 01:19:07,108 just because it helps you know that it is the right guy. 1402 01:19:08,610 --> 01:19:10,945 We had to basically prove up 1403 01:19:11,012 --> 01:19:12,947 the entire Debra Baker murder case 1404 01:19:13,014 --> 01:19:14,348 during our trials, 1405 01:19:14,416 --> 01:19:18,786 we essentially had two trials altogether. 1406 01:19:18,854 --> 01:19:23,357 The similarities between the two cases were striking. 1407 01:19:23,425 --> 01:19:27,795 And I believe I listed 16 different similarities. 1408 01:19:27,829 --> 01:19:29,663 Debra Baker and Christine Morton 1409 01:19:29,731 --> 01:19:32,967 were both 33-year-old women with long dark hair 1410 01:19:33,034 --> 01:19:35,603 who had children, who were at home in bed. 1411 01:19:35,670 --> 01:19:38,139 They were both in water beds, which seemed odd. 1412 01:19:39,708 --> 01:19:42,276 They were both murdered on the 13th of the month. 1413 01:19:44,379 --> 01:19:46,847 They were both murdered on a Wednesday, 1414 01:19:46,915 --> 01:19:48,549 they were both murdered in the early morning 1415 01:19:48,617 --> 01:19:50,651 or late hours. 1416 01:19:50,719 --> 01:19:53,320 Both of their homes, there was evidence 1417 01:19:53,388 --> 01:19:55,623 that showed that a perpetrator 1418 01:19:55,690 --> 01:19:57,391 had come over a back fence. 1419 01:19:59,127 --> 01:20:03,464 They were both struck by a blunt object in the head 1420 01:20:03,532 --> 01:20:05,266 multiple times. 1421 01:20:05,333 --> 01:20:09,003 They both had items piled on the top of their heads 1422 01:20:09,070 --> 01:20:12,406 after they were murdered as if to hide their faces. 1423 01:20:13,942 --> 01:20:16,811 Both houses had... 1424 01:20:16,878 --> 01:20:19,213 valuable jewelry out in plain view 1425 01:20:19,281 --> 01:20:21,615 that was not disturbed. 1426 01:20:21,650 --> 01:20:23,751 I mean it goes on and on, the two crime scenes 1427 01:20:23,819 --> 01:20:27,354 were remarkably similar. 1428 01:20:29,090 --> 01:20:31,625 But the biggest thing was is that Mark Norwood's DNA 1429 01:20:31,693 --> 01:20:34,094 was at both of those two scenes. 1430 01:20:37,766 --> 01:20:39,166 We've never afforded an opportunity 1431 01:20:39,234 --> 01:20:40,601 to sit down with Mark Alan Norwood 1432 01:20:40,669 --> 01:20:42,403 to determine why he had committed 1433 01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:43,971 this brutal murders. 1434 01:20:46,141 --> 01:20:49,710 I believe Mark Norwood is a serial killer 1435 01:20:49,744 --> 01:20:52,713 and there are probably other crimes 1436 01:20:52,781 --> 01:20:54,882 that he committed that we just, 1437 01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:58,853 as investigators have not connected him to yet. 1438 01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,923 Mark Alan Norwood was convicted of the murder 1439 01:21:02,991 --> 01:21:06,927 of Michael Morton's wife Christine 1440 01:21:06,995 --> 01:21:09,230 and Debra Jan Baker. 1441 01:21:09,297 --> 01:21:10,898 Two convictions. 1442 01:21:10,932 --> 01:21:12,700 Two life sentences. 1443 01:21:20,075 --> 01:21:22,276 And it was... 1444 01:21:22,344 --> 01:21:23,777 I don't even wanna say it was a relief, 1445 01:21:23,845 --> 01:21:26,513 because it just... It... 1446 01:21:26,581 --> 01:21:27,915 I don't know that there's an emotion 1447 01:21:27,983 --> 01:21:30,284 you can assign to it. 1448 01:21:30,352 --> 01:21:32,686 I was holding hands with my husband, 1449 01:21:32,754 --> 01:21:35,623 I hugged my brother, hugged my dad... 1450 01:21:35,690 --> 01:21:37,892 and I don't know. 1451 01:21:40,996 --> 01:21:42,296 It's an end to something 1452 01:21:42,364 --> 01:21:44,665 that had just always been there for me 1453 01:21:44,733 --> 01:21:47,568 so I don't know how to describe it really. 1454 01:21:49,571 --> 01:21:52,139 I am sitting outside on the steps, 1455 01:21:52,207 --> 01:21:54,942 crying and releasing that, you know, 1456 01:21:54,976 --> 01:21:57,745 finally realizing that we had done 1457 01:21:57,812 --> 01:22:00,147 everything we could do for Debbie. 1458 01:22:00,215 --> 01:22:03,017 It was a great sense of relief, 1459 01:22:03,084 --> 01:22:05,085 a great sense of justice. 1460 01:22:05,153 --> 01:22:06,687 You know, for so many years, 1461 01:22:06,755 --> 01:22:10,190 our family was completely broken. 1462 01:22:10,258 --> 01:22:12,259 And we'd go through the motions but, you know, 1463 01:22:12,327 --> 01:22:14,328 we were all broken inside. 1464 01:22:14,396 --> 01:22:16,530 I can't tell you. 1465 01:22:16,598 --> 01:22:19,667 I can't put into words what that day was like. 1466 01:22:19,734 --> 01:22:23,671 It was like, finally, some satisfaction 1467 01:22:23,738 --> 01:22:25,039 knowing that he's gonna spend 1468 01:22:25,106 --> 01:22:27,508 the rest of his life in prison. 1469 01:22:27,575 --> 01:22:31,345 And we actually, actually began to heal. 1470 01:22:44,592 --> 01:22:47,428 It took 25 years 1471 01:22:47,495 --> 01:22:50,364 for the arc of the moral universe 1472 01:22:50,432 --> 01:22:52,333 to bend toward justice. 1473 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,736 In fighting to free Michael Morton, 1474 01:22:55,804 --> 01:22:58,839 we felt that we were part of a tradition 1475 01:22:58,907 --> 01:23:01,809 of lawyers in America 1476 01:23:01,876 --> 01:23:06,313 who stood for justice against strong forces. 1477 01:23:07,716 --> 01:23:09,817 We spoke truth to power... 1478 01:23:11,386 --> 01:23:14,021 and we were honored to do so. 1479 01:23:14,089 --> 01:23:15,356 This story is not over. 1480 01:23:15,423 --> 01:23:17,558 The investigation is continuing 1481 01:23:17,625 --> 01:23:20,761 about the concealing of this evidence 1482 01:23:20,829 --> 01:23:22,730 that should have exonerated Michael 1483 01:23:22,797 --> 01:23:24,498 almost 25 years ago. 1484 01:23:29,804 --> 01:23:33,073 There are many happy moments for me in this case. 1485 01:23:33,141 --> 01:23:35,442 For me, personally. 1486 01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:38,412 The reunion of Michael and Eric was in my house. 1487 01:23:41,049 --> 01:23:42,216 I noticed that our shoes 1488 01:23:42,250 --> 01:23:43,717 were disturbingly similar. 1489 01:23:44,719 --> 01:23:46,754 We both had on new blue jeans. 1490 01:23:46,821 --> 01:23:49,123 When we held our heads, our gates as we walked 1491 01:23:49,190 --> 01:23:54,495 were eerily similar and... 1492 01:23:54,529 --> 01:23:56,196 The genes are there. 1493 01:23:57,766 --> 01:23:59,533 There was this longest silence... 1494 01:23:59,601 --> 01:24:02,970 The longest silence and then I kept listening 1495 01:24:03,038 --> 01:24:04,638 like because... I was within ear-shot 1496 01:24:04,706 --> 01:24:07,841 and I kept thinking, "What? Are they whispering?" 1497 01:24:10,145 --> 01:24:11,478 We shook hands immediately, 1498 01:24:11,546 --> 01:24:13,480 but that morphed into a hug. 1499 01:24:13,548 --> 01:24:16,650 It was like this melding, we just came back. 1500 01:24:18,286 --> 01:24:21,622 It's just as natural as that, 1501 01:24:21,689 --> 01:24:24,725 and I couldn't have planned it any better. 1502 01:24:27,262 --> 01:24:29,296 And Michael said, "Son." 1503 01:24:31,066 --> 01:24:33,667 And Eric said, "Dad." 1504 01:24:33,735 --> 01:24:35,936 And I think just for a second... 1505 01:24:37,505 --> 01:24:40,140 I got a glimpse of what heaven must be like. 118240

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