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Is she still in the bank? 15 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,533 Yes, she is. 16 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,633 OK. She's being held or... 17 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:19,934 Her--her husband-- husband and family is being held? 18 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,433 Yes. At their house? 19 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:23,800 Yes. They're tied up. 20 00:01:23,867 --> 00:01:26,266 She said they drove her here. 21 00:01:26,333 --> 00:01:28,133 I'm trying to look and see where she's gone. 22 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,500 She went outside but I don't-- 23 00:01:29,567 --> 00:01:31,300 oh, wait, I see her walking now. 24 00:01:31,367 --> 00:01:33,000 She is petrified. 25 00:01:33,066 --> 00:01:37,033 ♪ 26 00:01:55,333 --> 00:01:58,667 [Police radio] 27 00:02:16,133 --> 00:02:17,166 And we have-- 28 00:02:17,233 --> 00:02:19,233 Again, facts like that I can't comment on. 29 00:02:25,667 --> 00:02:27,433 And a male survivor. 30 00:02:31,266 --> 00:02:34,133 MAN: Upon arrival at the victims' residence, 31 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,700 the first officer observed two male subjects 32 00:02:37,767 --> 00:02:42,033 exit private residence and also observed 33 00:02:42,100 --> 00:02:46,066 the private residence fully engulfed in flame. 34 00:02:46,133 --> 00:02:50,133 The suspect vehicle rammed the Cheshire police officer's car 35 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,767 and continued on Sorghum Mill Road. 36 00:02:55,834 --> 00:02:58,133 WOMAN: Tonight, police removed the body of one of the victims 37 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,800 after a home invasion leaves a mother and her two daughters dead. 38 00:03:02,867 --> 00:03:03,967 SECOND WOMAN: The suspects, 39 00:03:04,033 --> 00:03:07,333 26-year-old Joshua Komisarjevsky of Cheshire 40 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,467 and 44-year-old Steven Hayes of Winsted 41 00:03:09,533 --> 00:03:13,233 were caught while trying to escape in the Petits' car. 42 00:03:13,300 --> 00:03:15,533 Now, the only question remains that why 43 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,133 did this happen to the Petit family. 44 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:24,834 ♪ 45 00:03:42,767 --> 00:03:49,300 There's not one word that I can use to describe our town, 46 00:03:49,367 --> 00:03:51,166 but it's a phenomenal town. 47 00:03:56,900 --> 00:03:59,467 [Crowd cheering] 48 00:04:01,734 --> 00:04:04,333 MAN: It's known as the bedding capital of Connecticut, 49 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,100 for bedding plants. 50 00:04:07,166 --> 00:04:09,166 SECOND MAN: It was historically a farming community, 51 00:04:09,233 --> 00:04:12,667 a lot of family farms, and as 52 00:04:12,734 --> 00:04:13,867 the state of Connecticut grew, 53 00:04:13,934 --> 00:04:15,867 as the cities surrounding the town of Cheshire grew, 54 00:04:15,934 --> 00:04:18,867 it ultimately became a bedroom community, 55 00:04:18,934 --> 00:04:22,400 which I think is probably the way most people think of Cheshire. 56 00:04:22,467 --> 00:04:28,000 ♪ 57 00:04:39,033 --> 00:04:40,734 WOMAN: Returning now to tonight's top story. 58 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,066 A mother and her two daughters are dead, 59 00:04:43,133 --> 00:04:45,667 their father severely injured, after a home invasion 60 00:04:45,734 --> 00:04:47,667 stunned the town of Cheshire. 61 00:04:47,734 --> 00:04:49,800 SECOND WOMAN: The suspects apparently set the house on fire 62 00:04:49,867 --> 00:04:52,233 as well as some of the victims. 63 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:54,667 THIRD WOMAN: Jennifer Petit, her cause of death 64 00:04:54,734 --> 00:04:57,500 has been asphyxiation from strangulation. 65 00:04:57,567 --> 00:05:01,133 Her daughters Hayley and Michaela died from smoke inhalation. 66 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,266 ♪ 67 00:05:28,367 --> 00:05:30,900 WOMAN: I got a phone call here on Monday afternoon 68 00:05:30,967 --> 00:05:34,166 from Billy's sister, and I said, 69 00:05:34,233 --> 00:05:37,300 "Hannah, it's about the girls, isn't it?" 70 00:05:37,367 --> 00:05:39,900 And she said, "These two men came in 71 00:05:39,967 --> 00:05:42,767 "at what they think was 3:00 in the morning 72 00:05:42,834 --> 00:05:46,333 "and they beat Billy really badly with a baseball bat 73 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,200 "and his head's all split apart, 74 00:05:49,266 --> 00:05:51,533 "and then they proceeded to do 75 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,867 "all these awful things to the girls, 76 00:05:54,934 --> 00:05:57,767 and they tied them to their beds." 77 00:06:00,233 --> 00:06:03,800 "About 9:00, Jen was made to go to the bank 78 00:06:03,867 --> 00:06:06,600 "and withdraw money and then 79 00:06:06,667 --> 00:06:08,900 "when she came back from the bank, 80 00:06:08,967 --> 00:06:11,734 "they set the house on fire and killed them all 81 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,300 "so that they could try to cover up their tracks, I guess, 82 00:06:15,367 --> 00:06:17,400 but they got the two guys," 83 00:06:17,467 --> 00:06:21,800 and all I could think was, "Who cares if they got the two guys? 84 00:06:21,867 --> 00:06:24,500 "We don't have our loved ones anymore, 85 00:06:24,567 --> 00:06:26,667 and that's all we had." 86 00:06:29,367 --> 00:06:32,400 Wild lingonberry. Have you ever had that? 87 00:06:32,467 --> 00:06:35,066 Lingonberry. 88 00:06:35,133 --> 00:06:39,600 It's from England, somewhere. 89 00:06:39,667 --> 00:06:43,200 CYNTHIA: The hardest thing I think I've ever had to do in my life 90 00:06:43,266 --> 00:06:47,433 was to tell my parents that one of their other children, 91 00:06:47,500 --> 00:06:50,600 their only other child, was dead, 92 00:06:50,667 --> 00:06:56,900 and their two grandchildren, two of their four. 93 00:06:56,967 --> 00:07:01,967 MAN: She quickly told us that the home was set on fire but 94 00:07:02,033 --> 00:07:04,734 Bill escaped. 95 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:10,266 We went to the hospital and got to see Bill for the first time. 96 00:07:10,333 --> 00:07:13,734 He was badly beaten and he 97 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,834 tried to apologize to us for not saving our daughter 98 00:07:18,900 --> 00:07:21,800 and our grandchildren. 99 00:07:21,867 --> 00:07:24,800 And we had to convince him that 100 00:07:24,867 --> 00:07:28,333 he was in no condition to be able to save anyone 101 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,066 and we were grateful... 102 00:07:30,133 --> 00:07:31,467 that he was alive. 103 00:07:31,533 --> 00:07:33,033 that he was alive. 104 00:07:33,100 --> 00:07:36,934 This is the last--sort of picture that we had together. 105 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,033 My sister--she was beautiful, 106 00:07:42,100 --> 00:07:45,367 and she was usually, like, the lead in the plays at school. 107 00:07:45,433 --> 00:07:47,166 She was on the homecoming court. 108 00:07:47,233 --> 00:07:50,667 She was captain of the Trojanette team. 109 00:07:50,734 --> 00:07:55,033 So she really was kind of like a winner person. 110 00:07:56,633 --> 00:07:59,834 DONALD: Bill was a committed, dedicated doctor. 111 00:07:59,900 --> 00:08:03,033 Would leave at 7:00 in the morning 112 00:08:03,100 --> 00:08:10,000 and not be back home until maybe 9:00, 9:30. 113 00:08:10,066 --> 00:08:14,133 CAROLYN: When Jen was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, 114 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,934 Hayley really wanted to raise money because 115 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,100 she felt like if she didn't do anything, 116 00:08:20,166 --> 00:08:22,800 it was possible that her mother could die. 117 00:08:25,567 --> 00:08:28,800 MAN: Hayley was able to raise a little over $50,000 118 00:08:28,867 --> 00:08:34,500 being a spokesperson for the MS Society here in Connecticut, 119 00:08:34,567 --> 00:08:38,133 receiving awards for that, although you'd never know it. 120 00:08:39,967 --> 00:08:42,934 GIRL: I hardly knew about Hayley helping with MS, 121 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,233 and that was just because she was just so quiet about everything, 122 00:08:46,300 --> 00:08:48,200 and she could have bragged about everything she did. 123 00:08:48,266 --> 00:08:50,867 I mean, she was a straight-"A" student. 124 00:08:52,433 --> 00:08:54,467 I think about her all the time. 125 00:08:54,533 --> 00:08:55,800 It's hard not to think about her. 126 00:08:55,867 --> 00:08:58,800 You'll find just something to relate to her about. 127 00:08:58,867 --> 00:09:01,433 ♪ 128 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:04,433 MARYBELLE: Michaela sometimes shied away from adults, 129 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:07,533 but she saw somebody was having a difficult time, 130 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,800 she went to them and tried to help 131 00:09:09,867 --> 00:09:11,934 with whatever she could. 132 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,900 ♪ 133 00:09:16,967 --> 00:09:20,734 DONALD: Their lives were just centered around 134 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:26,800 a sense of sociability, justice. 135 00:09:26,867 --> 00:09:30,500 And if I didn't smile about it, I'd have to cry. 136 00:09:41,834 --> 00:09:45,166 MAN: Apparently, these two losers followed 137 00:09:45,233 --> 00:09:49,166 Jennifer Hawke-Petit and her 11-year-old daughter 138 00:09:49,233 --> 00:09:52,300 to the Stop and Shop on Sunday night. 139 00:09:52,367 --> 00:09:54,834 They followed them. 140 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:59,300 And the first Cheshire police officer to arrive at the scene 141 00:09:59,367 --> 00:10:03,500 heard at least one of the girls screaming from inside the house. 142 00:10:03,567 --> 00:10:05,033 SECOND MAN: Those animals, what they did 143 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:07,100 to those poor people of Cheshire, 144 00:10:07,166 --> 00:10:10,233 I can't even believe that they're gonna give them a trial. 145 00:10:10,300 --> 00:10:13,200 What kind of laws do we have in this state 146 00:10:13,266 --> 00:10:15,333 where they don't just execute those animals? 147 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,533 Well, Tony, the reaction by the public certainly 148 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,133 is for that, but it is... 149 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,467 [Gunshots] 150 00:10:23,533 --> 00:10:29,100 To destroy a family the way those two did--heinous. 151 00:10:29,166 --> 00:10:32,400 My verdict--fry them. Hang them. 152 00:10:32,467 --> 00:10:34,066 Do whatever you gotta do. 153 00:10:34,133 --> 00:10:36,767 Make sure they ain't gonna walk this earth again. 154 00:10:36,834 --> 00:10:41,033 ♪ 155 00:10:44,333 --> 00:10:45,433 WOMAN: Can we switch? 156 00:10:45,500 --> 00:10:47,100 Yup. 157 00:10:49,533 --> 00:10:52,033 You need more? Yeah. I'm gonna need a little more. 158 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:55,100 I don't think evil like this has happened since "In Cold Blood." 159 00:10:55,166 --> 00:10:56,767 I really don't. Not that I know of. 160 00:10:56,834 --> 00:11:00,934 And we went from being a quiet, peaceful town in New England 161 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,367 to overnight people installing alarm systems 162 00:11:04,433 --> 00:11:06,600 and panic buttons and panic rooms. 163 00:11:06,667 --> 00:11:10,433 ♪ 164 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:15,767 WOMAN: People in town refer to it as Cheshire's 9/11. 165 00:11:15,834 --> 00:11:19,667 You know, life was one way and then it's another. 166 00:11:19,734 --> 00:11:23,300 ♪ 167 00:11:23,367 --> 00:11:26,867 MINISTER: God has promised to be with us through thick 168 00:11:26,934 --> 00:11:29,200 and through thin. 169 00:11:29,266 --> 00:11:34,333 All other ground is indeed sinking sand. 170 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,300 ♪ 171 00:11:52,767 --> 00:11:58,433 Well, first of all... thank you 172 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:06,433 for all coming out today to honor the memory of the girls. 173 00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:09,734 I'd really like to say thank you to... 174 00:12:12,033 --> 00:12:13,800 people from all over the state of Connecticut 175 00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:14,834 and all over the country. 176 00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:16,133 We've been... 177 00:12:18,133 --> 00:12:24,100 surrounded with love and cards and flowers and prayer 178 00:12:24,166 --> 00:12:28,166 from east to west and north to south. 179 00:12:28,233 --> 00:12:32,633 I met Jen at Children's Hospital in Pittsburgh. 180 00:12:35,233 --> 00:12:37,867 4 Med. She was a new nurse 181 00:12:37,934 --> 00:12:44,100 and I was the know-it-all third-year medical student. 182 00:12:44,166 --> 00:12:47,266 I was trying to correct Jen on how to take the blood pressure 183 00:12:47,333 --> 00:12:48,700 the correct way. 184 00:12:48,767 --> 00:12:51,333 [Laughter] 185 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,734 I had about 3 minutes of experience at that point. 186 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,533 [Laughter] 187 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,300 But it became clear pretty quickly that 188 00:13:01,367 --> 00:13:05,700 she knew more about pediatrics and how to care for kids 189 00:13:05,767 --> 00:13:08,600 than I had ever known. 190 00:13:08,667 --> 00:13:10,834 One of the nice things... 191 00:13:10,900 --> 00:13:13,333 CYNTHIA: Billy had never smelled smoke. 192 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,066 He had never seen a fire. 193 00:13:17,133 --> 00:13:20,867 He had said that the only thing he ever heard 194 00:13:20,934 --> 00:13:24,533 of my sister was her, like, pleading nicely 195 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,567 with these two men--"Can you please let me get my purse, 196 00:13:28,633 --> 00:13:31,700 or they'll know that something is up at the bank." 197 00:13:32,934 --> 00:13:34,433 He had his legs tied together 198 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:37,433 and he hopped up the outside basement steps 199 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:39,467 and he said, "But sometimes I wish 200 00:13:39,533 --> 00:13:41,233 "I would've just gone to the inside 201 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:44,900 "because then maybe, even if I had died in there, 202 00:13:44,967 --> 00:13:47,667 I could've done something." 203 00:13:47,734 --> 00:13:49,133 And I said, "No, Billy. 204 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,633 "You couldn't have done anything. 205 00:13:52,700 --> 00:13:55,834 "Attached to a pole with your hands and feet tied 206 00:13:55,900 --> 00:14:00,000 "in the basement with about 6 to 8 3- to 4-inch 207 00:14:00,066 --> 00:14:03,333 openings in your skull?" 208 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,467 And we knew that the police 209 00:14:04,533 --> 00:14:08,467 did not help my brother-in-law out of the house. 210 00:14:08,533 --> 00:14:13,066 So the chances that he lived surviving the blood loss 211 00:14:13,133 --> 00:14:17,166 are just miraculous in my mind. 212 00:14:17,233 --> 00:14:18,467 WOMAN: Joining me on the phone right now is 213 00:14:18,533 --> 00:14:21,133 Lieutenant Jay Markella, the public information officer 214 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,900 for the Cheshire Police Department. 215 00:14:22,967 --> 00:14:24,266 Thank you for joining us. 216 00:14:24,333 --> 00:14:25,500 JAY: Thank you for having me. 217 00:14:25,567 --> 00:14:26,734 WOMAN: Very little detail coming out, though, 218 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,567 about exactly what happened. 219 00:14:28,633 --> 00:14:29,967 Was it when police showed up 220 00:14:30,033 --> 00:14:31,433 that they found the house on fire 221 00:14:31,500 --> 00:14:32,600 and caught these suspects? 222 00:14:32,667 --> 00:14:35,300 Because they were caught leaving the burning house. 223 00:14:35,367 --> 00:14:38,967 Yeah. It worked out so officers arrived on scene 224 00:14:39,033 --> 00:14:43,967 just as the suspects were leaving the residence. 225 00:14:44,033 --> 00:14:49,467 OK. I don't know how far we should go back, but-- 226 00:14:49,533 --> 00:14:52,000 I'm a very detective-like person. 227 00:14:52,066 --> 00:14:55,767 I like to know details, and until I know the details 228 00:14:55,834 --> 00:15:01,533 around things, it's hard to figure things out. 229 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,433 I would like to know why my sister and Steven Hayes 230 00:15:05,500 --> 00:15:08,367 weren't stopped at the bank, 231 00:15:08,433 --> 00:15:10,567 why she wasn't held at the bank. 232 00:15:10,633 --> 00:15:15,233 ♪ 233 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,767 There were some police officers that, off the record, 234 00:15:21,834 --> 00:15:24,834 said to people in the town that they heard the girls 235 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:27,667 screaming in the end. 236 00:15:27,734 --> 00:15:31,066 Did they try to enter? Did they not try to enter? 237 00:15:33,233 --> 00:15:36,500 And why weren't there policemen looking in the windows? 238 00:15:36,567 --> 00:15:40,900 My sister had no blinds on her windows. 239 00:15:40,967 --> 00:15:43,734 I just want the facts. 240 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,834 And nobody has told us what really happened. 241 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,033 MAN: And today, a state prosecutor said 242 00:15:54,100 --> 00:15:57,734 he'll seek the death penalty for Komisarjevsky and Hayes. 243 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,233 Today, the state charged the men with 6 counts each 244 00:16:00,300 --> 00:16:02,333 of capital felony murder. 245 00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:08,934 MAN: I was driving back from the Adirondacks with my wife, 246 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,633 coming through the Berkshires, not a care in the world, 247 00:16:12,700 --> 00:16:15,900 and I get a cell phone call. 248 00:16:15,967 --> 00:16:18,734 Probably why I turned pale was because, 249 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,066 you know, I had a sense as a lawyer 250 00:16:20,133 --> 00:16:22,667 where this was headed right from the beginning. 251 00:16:22,734 --> 00:16:26,500 You know, capital case, death penalty case, high profile. 252 00:16:26,567 --> 00:16:28,266 And in my own head, I knew right away 253 00:16:28,333 --> 00:16:30,967 that that case was coming in to this office 254 00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:32,300 and that I'd be involved. 255 00:16:32,367 --> 00:16:35,333 [Siren wailing] 256 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,166 Steven Hayes and Mr. Komisarjevsky 257 00:16:38,233 --> 00:16:41,300 were coming into Meriden court for arraignment. 258 00:16:44,433 --> 00:16:47,233 Right from the first time that we met, 259 00:16:47,300 --> 00:16:51,333 Steven Hayes was suicidal, depressed, 260 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:57,100 just doesn't really understand how this all happened. 261 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,033 His record is lengthy. 262 00:17:04,100 --> 00:17:07,166 He's got all these burglaries. 263 00:17:07,233 --> 00:17:09,500 Most involve car burglaries, and in this state, burglary 264 00:17:09,567 --> 00:17:12,633 includes the break-in of a car. 265 00:17:12,700 --> 00:17:16,333 And they were all daytime. 266 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,567 He'd sit and watch. People would park their cars. 267 00:17:18,633 --> 00:17:20,967 They'd go walking on a trail. 268 00:17:21,033 --> 00:17:25,900 Break into their car and take a laptop or a radio or a phone. 269 00:17:25,967 --> 00:17:29,567 So you were not dealing with someone who 270 00:17:29,633 --> 00:17:33,400 had the kind of classic history of violence 271 00:17:33,467 --> 00:17:35,700 and all of a sudden stepped into the big time 272 00:17:35,767 --> 00:17:37,467 in terms of the next level of violence. 273 00:17:37,533 --> 00:17:38,767 You just didn't have it. 274 00:17:38,834 --> 00:17:40,500 There was no reason that anyone 275 00:17:40,567 --> 00:17:44,266 would ever look at that history and think, 276 00:17:44,333 --> 00:17:47,734 "Well, this guy's gonna do something really bad one day." 277 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,633 ♪ 278 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:53,500 GIRL: The first time that I found out about my dad 279 00:17:53,567 --> 00:17:56,934 I was probably about 5 years old. 280 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,266 He would, like, take me to the movies 281 00:17:59,333 --> 00:18:01,834 and he really tried to be that father figure to me, but 282 00:18:01,900 --> 00:18:05,066 for whatever reason, he just couldn't stay out of trouble 283 00:18:05,133 --> 00:18:07,166 and so when he went back to jail, 284 00:18:07,233 --> 00:18:09,133 like, he would write to me and I would write back 285 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,934 and that was our way of communicating. 286 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,133 ♪ 287 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,200 "Dear Alicia, hello, honey, and how are you doing? 288 00:18:16,266 --> 00:18:18,467 "I haven't heard from you in a while 289 00:18:18,533 --> 00:18:20,567 "and neither has Grandma. 290 00:18:20,633 --> 00:18:23,033 "I want so bad never to hurt you again 291 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:25,567 "and I feel like I am because I'm still here. 292 00:18:25,633 --> 00:18:28,734 "Every day, I wake up wondering if today will be the day 293 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,433 "that my name is called. 294 00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:31,867 "The stress is almost unbearable... 295 00:18:31,934 --> 00:18:33,667 When I first found out about the incident, 296 00:18:33,734 --> 00:18:37,166 I just came back from the police academy. 297 00:18:37,233 --> 00:18:39,667 And my mind was just like-- I told him to call me 298 00:18:39,734 --> 00:18:41,667 if something was wrong. 299 00:18:44,433 --> 00:18:48,633 I needed to talk to him. I needed to get answers from him. 300 00:18:48,700 --> 00:18:50,834 What made him get together with this one guy 301 00:18:50,900 --> 00:18:52,533 and do what they did? 302 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,533 Whose idea was it? 303 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,000 Was it just one 304 00:18:55,066 --> 00:18:57,266 or was it both or did it just happen? 305 00:18:57,333 --> 00:19:00,000 It's just like, there's no easy answer, 306 00:19:00,066 --> 00:19:03,000 and I might not like the answer I get, 307 00:19:03,066 --> 00:19:05,467 but it's all-- it's all just "why?" 308 00:19:05,533 --> 00:19:07,967 ♪ 309 00:19:08,033 --> 00:19:11,133 WOMAN: The details of 26-year-old Joshua Komisarjevsky's past 310 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,767 are more in-depth, and some say even more disturbing. 311 00:19:14,834 --> 00:19:16,467 His rap sheet reveals a... 312 00:19:16,533 --> 00:19:19,433 MAN: We were right in the kitchen here 313 00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:22,633 and we got a call from my brother Ben, 314 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:25,700 and he said, "I think Josh has been involved 315 00:19:25,767 --> 00:19:27,667 in this home invasion." 316 00:19:27,734 --> 00:19:31,266 And I said to him, I said, "Home invasion? 317 00:19:31,333 --> 00:19:37,734 This was a murder. And Josh was involved?" 318 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,834 So you see the name spelled out, 319 00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:42,567 the Komisarjevsky name, 320 00:19:42,633 --> 00:19:46,433 and you sit there and you hold your head in your hands 321 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:48,533 and you can't believe it. 322 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,233 And you want to cry. 323 00:19:51,300 --> 00:19:53,934 ♪ 324 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,600 This young man's a monster, and that is not 325 00:19:57,667 --> 00:20:01,300 the way that we as members of this family behave. 326 00:20:05,033 --> 00:20:07,834 We spent all of our time in Cheshire 327 00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:12,433 and we lived in a home that was a home of arts and letters. 328 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:15,000 This is my aunt Vera Komisarjevsky, 329 00:20:15,066 --> 00:20:17,934 one of the foremost actresses on the Russian stage, 330 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,600 and there's a theater in St. Petersburg 331 00:20:19,667 --> 00:20:22,834 that's named after her, and this is my father 332 00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:25,734 Theodore Komisarjevsky, theater director, 333 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,533 architect, costume designer. 334 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,233 ♪ 335 00:20:30,300 --> 00:20:32,600 When we drove up to Cheshire, 336 00:20:32,667 --> 00:20:35,233 my brother's house was just swarmed with media 337 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:40,000 knocking on the door, trying to get statements from them. 338 00:20:40,066 --> 00:20:42,266 I think it's hard for anybody 339 00:20:42,333 --> 00:20:45,166 to be able to deal with that kind of a situation, 340 00:20:45,233 --> 00:20:46,834 but probably more so for them 341 00:20:46,900 --> 00:20:49,800 because they were individuals who basically had 342 00:20:49,867 --> 00:20:53,667 withdrawn from many aspects of public life. 343 00:20:53,734 --> 00:20:57,834 ♪ 344 00:20:57,900 --> 00:21:02,100 They ultimately posted a notice on the outside of their door, 345 00:21:02,166 --> 00:21:04,734 but that was it, and from that time on, 346 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,934 they've had nothing to say. 347 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,633 ♪ 348 00:21:10,700 --> 00:21:13,734 MAN: It was so disappointing, because I knew 349 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,433 I was the last person, therapeutically, 350 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:19,633 that met with Josh and could really 351 00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:22,266 paint a picture of him in a different light, 352 00:21:22,333 --> 00:21:26,967 and I knew that the media and most people's opinion of him 353 00:21:27,033 --> 00:21:32,500 would go against what I saw and what I knew. 354 00:21:32,567 --> 00:21:36,834 Josh just wanted to do better things with his life. 355 00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:40,667 Staying clean, reconnecting with his family, 356 00:21:40,734 --> 00:21:43,300 and possibly going forward with an education 357 00:21:43,367 --> 00:21:45,166 to become an architect. 358 00:21:45,233 --> 00:21:48,233 ♪ 359 00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:51,600 I saw someone who created some beautiful designs. 360 00:21:51,667 --> 00:21:55,433 These sketches. 361 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:57,533 I mean, this kid was amazing. 362 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,066 This is something that's unnatural. 363 00:21:59,133 --> 00:22:02,367 This is pure talent. 364 00:22:02,433 --> 00:22:03,867 ♪ 365 00:22:03,934 --> 00:22:07,400 He had to have practiced this and worked on this for years. 366 00:22:07,467 --> 00:22:12,033 ♪ 367 00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:17,667 But when we talk about the-- just the pure evil, 368 00:22:17,734 --> 00:22:19,400 how am I gonna go in there and tell them 369 00:22:19,467 --> 00:22:21,200 that this was a good kid, 370 00:22:21,266 --> 00:22:23,734 and that I was really close to him, 371 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,867 after what he did? 372 00:22:29,934 --> 00:22:32,500 Joshua was a little, skinny, frail kid. 373 00:22:32,567 --> 00:22:34,800 I saw him behind the bars. 374 00:22:34,867 --> 00:22:39,734 He had on his cream-colored jail uniform. 375 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,533 He was slight. He was polite. 376 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:50,333 He's adopted. He went from regular school special ed to home school. 377 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,767 This whole package didn't make sense to me. 378 00:22:53,834 --> 00:22:57,667 Burglary, burglary, burglary, burglary, and burglary. 379 00:22:57,734 --> 00:23:01,166 Genius that he is, and he is a genius in some respects, 380 00:23:01,233 --> 00:23:04,834 with a photographic memory and attention to detail that 381 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:09,467 no normal mind could possibly retain, 382 00:23:09,533 --> 00:23:11,834 he told them every burglary he did. 383 00:23:11,900 --> 00:23:13,567 ♪ 384 00:23:13,633 --> 00:23:16,834 He knew every item he took, passports, 385 00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:18,834 what dumpsters he threw it in. 386 00:23:18,900 --> 00:23:21,066 ♪ 387 00:23:21,133 --> 00:23:23,867 Joshua could get into a third floor, 388 00:23:23,934 --> 00:23:27,033 steal things, know which denominations of bills he took 389 00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:29,266 a year later or two years later. 390 00:23:29,333 --> 00:23:30,700 Tell you where each wallet was, 391 00:23:30,767 --> 00:23:32,600 what kind of pants they were taken from, 392 00:23:32,667 --> 00:23:34,767 where the pants were--on the floor or on the bedpost, 393 00:23:34,834 --> 00:23:36,433 in the closet. 394 00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:38,500 Stay there for hours, not get caught. 395 00:23:38,567 --> 00:23:41,266 ♪ 396 00:23:41,333 --> 00:23:44,867 Joshua used relatively sophisticated equipment for a burglar-- 397 00:23:44,934 --> 00:23:48,667 night vision goggles, latex gloves. 398 00:23:48,734 --> 00:23:52,533 After he robbed a house, he would stay there, on occasion, 399 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,133 and listen to the people breathing, 400 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,133 and go from room to room, listening to the occupants breathing, 401 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,033 for no apparent purpose. 402 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,433 That was the frightening part of it. 403 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:11,633 He'd rob state troopers' houses, which takes some guts. 404 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:14,000 And I said, "Judge, he needs to be watched. 405 00:24:14,066 --> 00:24:16,367 "This kid is sick. 406 00:24:16,433 --> 00:24:17,633 "You're never gonna see him again or he's gonna be 407 00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:19,934 "the worst criminal to pass through these doors, 408 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,200 because that's the kind of a mind he's got." 409 00:24:22,266 --> 00:24:30,934 ♪ 410 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,467 There's no obvious flag here. 411 00:24:32,533 --> 00:24:35,266 WOMAN: No obvious flag. The new chairman of the Board 412 00:24:35,333 --> 00:24:37,400 of Pardons and Paroles says 413 00:24:37,467 --> 00:24:40,300 that the two suspects in the brutal Cheshire home invasion 414 00:24:40,367 --> 00:24:43,433 and triple murder were capable of doing 415 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:45,166 what they allegedly did. 416 00:24:45,233 --> 00:24:48,300 There's no evidence that we've seen yet that they were 417 00:24:48,367 --> 00:24:51,500 recently--failed any drug tests. 418 00:24:51,567 --> 00:24:53,967 They were both employed. They were both living 419 00:24:54,033 --> 00:24:57,200 in what appeared to be stable households. 420 00:24:57,266 --> 00:25:02,500 ♪ 421 00:25:02,567 --> 00:25:07,200 MAN: Komisarjevsky was arrested for 18 home invasions, 422 00:25:07,266 --> 00:25:10,433 and the warning bells in there 423 00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:14,100 should have been ringing very loudly. 424 00:25:14,166 --> 00:25:16,600 Under a 10-year-old law, prosecutors are supposed to 425 00:25:16,667 --> 00:25:20,533 order a transcript of the sentencing proceeding 426 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,934 and send that along to the parole board. 427 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000 I used to be a prosecutor. 428 00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:29,033 I helped write this law I'm talking about. 429 00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:31,100 Because I knew that it's at the sentencing 430 00:25:31,166 --> 00:25:32,367 that you really find out everything you need to know 431 00:25:32,433 --> 00:25:35,533 about this offender and the crime. 432 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,934 The problem is none of this ever got 433 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,600 to the Department of Corrections. 434 00:25:38,667 --> 00:25:42,934 None of this ever got to the parole board. 435 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,967 So from the point of view of the Department of Corrections, 436 00:25:45,033 --> 00:25:48,367 they got first time ever incarcerated inmate. 437 00:25:48,433 --> 00:25:53,934 Young, white, bright, home schooled, remorseful, 438 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,233 never identified as a person with high mental health needs 439 00:25:57,300 --> 00:25:59,367 because he didn't come across as that type of person. 440 00:25:59,433 --> 00:26:03,100 He was a real manipulator. 441 00:26:03,166 --> 00:26:05,266 The typical sentence for burglary 442 00:26:05,333 --> 00:26:10,000 is a maximum of 10 years in prison for each offense. 443 00:26:10,066 --> 00:26:12,200 Komisarjevsky could have still been locked up 444 00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:14,667 for two lifetimes. 445 00:26:14,734 --> 00:26:18,467 It was possible. It didn't happen. 446 00:26:18,533 --> 00:26:23,000 ♪ 447 00:26:26,066 --> 00:26:32,967 [Rain, thunder] 448 00:26:33,033 --> 00:26:36,467 WOMAN: I went to Bank of America to open a new account 449 00:26:36,533 --> 00:26:41,300 and Mrs. Petit was at the counter. 450 00:26:41,367 --> 00:26:46,200 All I saw was white blond hair and a white piece of paper. 451 00:26:46,266 --> 00:26:48,834 The teller handing it to the manager 452 00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:54,233 and the manager really just running right behind me to her office. 453 00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:58,300 And she just left. 454 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,033 It's very delicate. 455 00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:06,667 3 lives were taken that should not have been. 456 00:27:06,734 --> 00:27:10,300 Things happened in a manner that-- 457 00:27:10,367 --> 00:27:12,600 and I'm not saying the police-- 458 00:27:12,667 --> 00:27:15,633 because when you have a hostage situation, 459 00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:19,367 you wait until-- you have to assess, 460 00:27:19,433 --> 00:27:23,233 but she was screaming for her life. 461 00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:25,934 "He's in the basement." Conscious. 462 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,433 Bound by the ankles. Daughter loose upstairs. 463 00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:34,367 Very strong girl. 464 00:27:34,433 --> 00:27:37,700 How did it happen? 465 00:27:37,767 --> 00:27:40,867 Cheshire Police. No one is talking. 466 00:27:40,934 --> 00:27:43,934 No one. 467 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,000 MAN: Lieutenant, good morning, sir. 468 00:27:45,066 --> 00:27:46,133 LIEUTENANT: Good morning, Dan. 469 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,066 First of all, the Cheshire Police Department 470 00:27:49,133 --> 00:27:52,133 in their response to this initial call 471 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,467 was absolutely outstanding. 472 00:27:54,533 --> 00:27:56,266 They did a stellar job. 473 00:27:56,333 --> 00:27:59,100 The chief and all those personnel and Cheshire P.D. 474 00:27:59,166 --> 00:28:01,467 deserve a lot of praise and credit. 475 00:28:06,033 --> 00:28:07,734 MAN: People are asking about a timeline, you know, 476 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,867 when did this occur, when did that occur? 477 00:28:09,934 --> 00:28:11,433 We don't detail that information. 478 00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:13,367 That's--that's--that's not something 479 00:28:13,433 --> 00:28:16,300 that really the public really needs to be 480 00:28:16,367 --> 00:28:18,033 concerned about at this point in time 481 00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:21,867 and it has more of an impact on the case itself. 482 00:28:21,934 --> 00:28:25,200 You know, the type of injury, the scene 483 00:28:25,266 --> 00:28:27,900 that one may try to envision in their mind, 484 00:28:27,967 --> 00:28:29,133 we're not gonna detail that. 485 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,100 We're not gonna discuss, you know, how someone died 486 00:28:33,166 --> 00:28:34,967 over and above manner and cause, 487 00:28:35,033 --> 00:28:36,600 which we'll give manner and cause of death 488 00:28:36,667 --> 00:28:40,500 but we're not gonna get into great graphic detailed description. 489 00:28:40,567 --> 00:28:42,033 You know, we're not gonna talk about assaults. 490 00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:44,233 We're not gonna talk about weapons. 491 00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:57,000 MAN: Say what we don't know. 492 00:28:57,066 --> 00:28:58,767 What happened. 493 00:28:58,834 --> 00:29:00,066 And the next-- 494 00:29:00,133 --> 00:29:02,100 the ensuing half-hour. 495 00:29:02,166 --> 00:29:03,433 Yeah. 496 00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:07,900 Between the time Hayes and Hawke-Petit 497 00:29:07,967 --> 00:29:10,800 returned home? 498 00:29:10,867 --> 00:29:14,000 Mm-hmm. And the time-- 499 00:29:14,066 --> 00:29:15,834 I don't want to say, "The first Cheshire police." 500 00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:16,834 No. They were arrested 501 00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:18,033 coming out of the house? 502 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:19,533 Time they were arrested. 503 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:25,800 Yeah. "That may only be answered at trial." 504 00:29:27,767 --> 00:29:29,834 MAN: If you can answer some of the questions, go ahead and do that. 505 00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:31,567 Yup. And then... 506 00:29:31,633 --> 00:29:33,467 MAN: There's so little information and there's so many 507 00:29:33,533 --> 00:29:36,333 rumors and innuendo circulating. 508 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,967 People are clamoring to find out what happened. 509 00:29:40,033 --> 00:29:41,900 The "Day" possibly proposed 510 00:29:41,967 --> 00:29:44,133 that William Petit was somehow involved. 511 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,767 Speculation. 512 00:29:45,834 --> 00:29:48,800 The sooner, I think, we get all the information, 513 00:29:48,867 --> 00:29:50,667 the sooner folks can really start healing, 514 00:29:50,734 --> 00:29:51,967 because the unknown is just as frightening 515 00:29:52,033 --> 00:29:53,367 as what happened, in a way. 516 00:29:53,433 --> 00:29:56,367 You have all these people saying all this stuff, you know? 517 00:29:56,433 --> 00:30:00,800 Just tell us what happened, and then we can deal with it. 518 00:30:00,867 --> 00:30:03,600 It's almost like not knowing is-- 519 00:30:03,667 --> 00:30:06,700 kind of keeps that wound open, you know? 520 00:30:06,767 --> 00:30:07,867 I don't know. It's gonna be a while 521 00:30:07,934 --> 00:30:10,000 till we see trial, so... 522 00:30:11,266 --> 00:30:15,467 ♪ 523 00:30:21,133 --> 00:30:22,800 THOMAS: It's starting to pan out that the state's claim 524 00:30:22,867 --> 00:30:27,867 is pretty strong, overwhelmingly strong. 525 00:30:27,934 --> 00:30:33,900 And that what's at stake at this case is life or death. 526 00:30:37,333 --> 00:30:40,266 You have the gasoline aspect of it. 527 00:30:40,333 --> 00:30:45,767 You know, the sexual assault. Horrible crime scene photos. 528 00:30:45,834 --> 00:30:49,900 You have the right defendant. You have the right perpetrator. 529 00:30:49,967 --> 00:30:53,834 What do we do? Isn't this the case that death is warranted? 530 00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:58,667 And, um...and I can't accept that. 531 00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:04,767 Once you allow the death penalty to go forward, 532 00:31:04,834 --> 00:31:06,633 then the next case comes along, 533 00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:07,867 and it's OK for the next case 534 00:31:07,934 --> 00:31:09,200 because that crime was horrifying, 535 00:31:09,266 --> 00:31:10,967 and what if that's a mistake? 536 00:31:11,033 --> 00:31:13,333 What if that's an innocent guy? 537 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,633 And this notion of that, if you execute somebody, 538 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,066 you know, you'll save money. 539 00:31:19,133 --> 00:31:22,133 You know, that's the furthest thing from the truth. 540 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,600 You know, we have pretty much a blank check. 541 00:31:25,667 --> 00:31:28,934 So I'm reminding everybody, listen, 542 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,800 Steven Hayes is ready to plead guilty to all of these charges 543 00:31:31,867 --> 00:31:34,834 and take a sentence of life without the possibility-- 544 00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:36,633 at least it'll be over now. 545 00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:38,633 You know? There'd be--the case would be done, 546 00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:40,533 there wouldn't be any appeals, 547 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,367 we'd stop spending all this money, 548 00:31:43,433 --> 00:31:45,800 we would not have to traumatize everybody 549 00:31:45,867 --> 00:31:47,367 with the facts of this case. 550 00:31:47,433 --> 00:31:51,600 ♪ 551 00:32:16,433 --> 00:32:19,800 ♪ 552 00:32:19,867 --> 00:32:22,233 DONALD: As a United Methodist minister, 553 00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:26,900 I am a minister of a church at large 554 00:32:26,967 --> 00:32:31,533 that is opposed to capital punishment. 555 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:37,266 That has put me between a rock and a hard place. 556 00:32:37,333 --> 00:32:44,900 We certainly don't approve of torture of people, but 557 00:32:44,967 --> 00:32:49,700 we feel that there has to be some justice in 558 00:32:49,767 --> 00:32:52,133 how people are dealt with 559 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,967 when they are so inhumane 560 00:32:54,033 --> 00:32:56,600 in their treatment of others. 561 00:32:56,667 --> 00:33:03,133 ♪ 562 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:16,567 WILLIAM: You know, it just makes me want to cry. 563 00:33:16,633 --> 00:33:18,767 Jennifer, Hayley, and Michaela, 564 00:33:18,834 --> 00:33:22,233 they were kind and they were sweet. 565 00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:23,500 They looked out for other people, 566 00:33:23,567 --> 00:33:26,967 they cared about other people, and spent their time 567 00:33:27,033 --> 00:33:31,300 helping people, so for them to suffer, you know, 568 00:33:31,367 --> 00:33:37,200 horrific--horrific deaths seems incredibly unjust. 569 00:33:37,266 --> 00:33:39,467 I mean, it would seem incredibly unjust for anybody, 570 00:33:39,533 --> 00:33:41,367 but obviously they were the 3 people 571 00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:43,300 that I knew and loved the best in the world, 572 00:33:43,367 --> 00:33:49,066 and it just--the contra-- 573 00:33:49,133 --> 00:33:53,166 contra--the opposition of the-- 574 00:33:53,233 --> 00:33:56,667 just absolute evil that attacked us 575 00:33:56,734 --> 00:33:58,800 versus the goodness that they represented 576 00:33:58,867 --> 00:34:01,133 is--is just worlds apart. 577 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,767 ♪ 578 00:34:08,367 --> 00:34:10,767 [Sigh] 579 00:34:10,834 --> 00:34:12,433 A benign visit to the grocery store 580 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,800 to get milk, bread, toilet paper. 581 00:34:15,867 --> 00:34:18,333 Oh, and "People" magazine, 582 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,934 because a family that my brother killed 583 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,033 is on the front cover. 584 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:24,600 And my brother's picture is in it. 585 00:34:26,567 --> 00:34:30,433 He raped a woman. He choked her to death. 586 00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:33,300 He poured gasoline on two little girls 587 00:34:33,367 --> 00:34:35,433 and he set them on fire. 588 00:34:37,433 --> 00:34:39,333 How does a person do that? 589 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,667 ♪ 590 00:34:42,734 --> 00:34:47,967 They paroled him in November and he--he peed funny, 591 00:34:48,033 --> 00:34:49,333 and so they threw him back, 592 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,400 and they paroled him 5 months later. 593 00:34:52,467 --> 00:34:56,233 I--personally, they're fucking stupid 594 00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:59,433 because they don't get it. 595 00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:03,133 You don't care enough about the people in your society 596 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,000 to put these type of people back out on the street. 597 00:35:06,066 --> 00:35:09,000 And I want to say that-- it's really tough for me to say 598 00:35:09,066 --> 00:35:12,900 because one of those people is my brother. 599 00:35:12,967 --> 00:35:16,166 Steven at birth or soon thereafter. 600 00:35:16,233 --> 00:35:22,433 Steven around 3. Steven around 5. 601 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:27,533 Matthew around one, Matthew around 3. 602 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,600 Then we get into these. 603 00:35:31,667 --> 00:35:34,367 Steven, Matthew, Brian. 604 00:35:34,433 --> 00:35:36,800 Where I got the blond hair, I have no idea. 605 00:35:36,867 --> 00:35:38,066 Dad. That's where you got it. 606 00:35:38,133 --> 00:35:41,700 You, Kathryn, and--and Steven 607 00:35:41,767 --> 00:35:44,900 all had the light hair. 608 00:35:44,967 --> 00:35:49,834 Who is Steve? He's manipulating, 609 00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:53,100 he's deceptive, 610 00:35:53,166 --> 00:35:56,333 and he's my brother. 611 00:35:58,367 --> 00:36:00,266 God, look at that. 612 00:36:00,333 --> 00:36:02,633 And I remember that. See, look at where his hands are. 613 00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:05,834 I remember that day. He was pinching me, he was grabbing me. 614 00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:09,133 I mean, I'm about to frickin' burst out in tears here. 615 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,867 He's just laughing his little ass off. 616 00:36:10,934 --> 00:36:14,633 Yeah. Fuckin' noodge. 617 00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:18,567 Deceiving. Always. Manipulator. 618 00:36:18,633 --> 00:36:20,667 "Mom, it's not me, it's Matt." 619 00:36:20,734 --> 00:36:24,667 Mom and her 3 boys. 620 00:36:24,734 --> 00:36:27,100 And that's probably the first Christmas 621 00:36:27,166 --> 00:36:30,967 since 1979 622 00:36:31,033 --> 00:36:36,233 that all 3 of us were in the same room for Christmas. 623 00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:37,333 Only to go back to jail again. 624 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,033 Mm-hmm. 625 00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:41,333 You know, this is the evolution of 626 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,967 Steven in prison life. 627 00:36:44,033 --> 00:36:45,734 Monday, when I saw it on the news, 628 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,266 all's I heard was that there was 629 00:36:47,333 --> 00:36:48,767 the home invasion and whatnot, 630 00:36:48,834 --> 00:36:51,934 and it seemed like something Steve would do. 631 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,767 But if he'd never-- ...smashing of the police cars 632 00:36:54,834 --> 00:36:57,066 and the breaking and entering and stuff like that. 633 00:36:57,133 --> 00:36:59,233 But the killing, the raping, and the burning. 634 00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:01,467 That could've been Josh. 635 00:37:01,533 --> 00:37:03,400 I don't know who was the mastermind. 636 00:37:03,467 --> 00:37:04,567 Well, obviously, neither one of them, 637 00:37:04,633 --> 00:37:07,400 because they got caught, and they did something-- 638 00:37:07,467 --> 00:37:09,000 Well, being a mastermind 639 00:37:09,066 --> 00:37:10,667 doesn't mean that you don't get caught. 640 00:37:10,734 --> 00:37:13,834 Honestly, you know, it is, it is 641 00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:16,734 the equivalent of the perfect storm. 642 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,800 If he wasn't smoking drugs, then, you know, 643 00:37:19,867 --> 00:37:23,200 I say flip the switch and fuck the trial. 644 00:37:23,266 --> 00:37:25,000 Flip the switch. 645 00:37:25,066 --> 00:37:26,633 I hope it doesn't even go that far. 646 00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:28,900 As nasty as it sounds, 647 00:37:28,967 --> 00:37:30,900 I hope somebody puts a bullet in his head. 648 00:37:30,967 --> 00:37:32,867 That's not gonna happen. Outside the courtroom. 649 00:37:32,934 --> 00:37:34,300 He's in solitary confinement. 650 00:37:34,367 --> 00:37:36,767 Yeah, well-- They will--they will keep him away 651 00:37:36,834 --> 00:37:38,567 from every God-living soul. 652 00:37:38,633 --> 00:37:39,800 When he's on his way into the courtroom, 653 00:37:39,867 --> 00:37:41,266 he has to get out somewhere. 654 00:37:41,333 --> 00:37:42,800 They're not gonna risk his life, 655 00:37:42,867 --> 00:37:45,900 because the state wants to kill him. 656 00:37:45,967 --> 00:37:47,400 They're not gonna give that privilege up 657 00:37:47,467 --> 00:37:49,266 to anybody else. 658 00:37:49,333 --> 00:37:52,533 You know, I think that it should be the death penalty. 659 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,467 ♪ 660 00:38:02,533 --> 00:38:05,066 Aah! Ha ha! 661 00:38:21,967 --> 00:38:24,967 MAN: Both my daughters, Clarice and Caroline, 662 00:38:25,033 --> 00:38:27,300 had a relationship with Joshua, 663 00:38:27,367 --> 00:38:31,800 and I believe that he picked my daughters out 664 00:38:31,867 --> 00:38:36,834 due to the fact that they looked like they're very young. 665 00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:39,767 When Josh wanted to marry Caroline, 666 00:38:39,834 --> 00:38:42,400 we had a phone conversation. 667 00:38:42,467 --> 00:38:46,333 I don't know if Josh was asking for my blessing, 668 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,500 but in that phone conversation, I said, "Joshua, 669 00:38:48,567 --> 00:38:51,266 "I have two major concerns. 670 00:38:51,333 --> 00:38:54,100 One is I think you're a career criminal." 671 00:38:54,166 --> 00:38:56,066 And then the second thing I shared with him 672 00:38:56,133 --> 00:38:58,133 is that's he's a pedophile. 673 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,066 And in both of those, he-- he never really 674 00:39:01,133 --> 00:39:03,800 changed his voice. 675 00:39:03,867 --> 00:39:08,233 All I remember him saying is, "I'm sorry you feel that way." 676 00:39:11,066 --> 00:39:14,000 WOMAN: "Dear Caroline, good evening, sweetheart. 677 00:39:14,066 --> 00:39:18,100 "When I wake every morning, the sun is just starting to rise. 678 00:39:18,166 --> 00:39:20,100 "Its light dances across your picture, 679 00:39:20,166 --> 00:39:23,433 "radiating your beautiful eyes and pretty smile. 680 00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:25,934 "It's the best part of the day. 681 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,033 "A calming mix of hope, beauty, and tranquility. 682 00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:33,266 "Take care, Caroline. Smile. Someone's thinking of you. 683 00:39:33,333 --> 00:39:35,834 "Strength and honor, sincerely, Joshua. 684 00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:39,834 P.S.: Miss you." 685 00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:43,300 We called Joshua the hopeless romantic. 686 00:39:43,367 --> 00:39:48,266 That was the biggest side I loved about him, 687 00:39:48,333 --> 00:39:52,100 because how many guys are out there that are romantic? 688 00:39:52,166 --> 00:39:53,633 You know? Not very many, 689 00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:56,400 and he was super romantic, and that's the way I am. 690 00:39:56,467 --> 00:39:58,567 I'm super romantic. 691 00:39:58,633 --> 00:40:00,767 ♪ 692 00:40:00,834 --> 00:40:02,500 When I went to Cheshire, 693 00:40:02,567 --> 00:40:03,967 we would go around the neighborhoods, 694 00:40:04,033 --> 00:40:06,166 the rich neighborhoods, 695 00:40:06,233 --> 00:40:07,633 and he'd look at all these houses 696 00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:09,800 and be like, "Man, you know, I want to live in 697 00:40:09,867 --> 00:40:14,567 something that nice and that gorgeous." 698 00:40:14,633 --> 00:40:15,967 He wanted to have a family. 699 00:40:16,033 --> 00:40:18,467 He was like, "I want a family. You know, a good family. 700 00:40:18,533 --> 00:40:20,667 I don't want something that's broken." 701 00:40:20,734 --> 00:40:25,900 ♪ 702 00:40:25,967 --> 00:40:29,567 "If I were home, I would have sent flowers 703 00:40:29,633 --> 00:40:31,300 "and some sort of creative surprise 704 00:40:31,367 --> 00:40:33,767 "with this little note of admiration. 705 00:40:33,834 --> 00:40:37,166 "Actually, if I were home, I would have shown up in person 706 00:40:37,233 --> 00:40:39,467 and, well, who knows." 707 00:40:39,533 --> 00:40:41,867 ♪ 708 00:40:41,934 --> 00:40:46,233 Me and Joshua did have a very sexually active relationship 709 00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:48,800 and he did like to tie me up 710 00:40:48,867 --> 00:40:51,867 and, of course, you know, I was the submissive one, 711 00:40:51,934 --> 00:40:53,900 and sometimes I was the dominant one. 712 00:40:53,967 --> 00:40:56,100 But most of the time, I was submissive. 713 00:40:56,166 --> 00:40:58,767 ♪ 714 00:40:58,834 --> 00:41:01,767 Joshua always asked me, you know, "Is this too tight?" 715 00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:05,467 "Are you OK?" Joshua always was concerned. 716 00:41:05,533 --> 00:41:08,367 ♪ 717 00:41:08,433 --> 00:41:09,867 Joshua was definitely a soul mate 718 00:41:09,934 --> 00:41:13,800 and that's what killed me the most. 719 00:41:21,834 --> 00:41:23,667 [Crickets chirping] 720 00:41:29,166 --> 00:41:32,367 I saw Steve and Josh together every day, every day. 721 00:41:32,433 --> 00:41:35,333 They were always talking. Because Steve was-- 722 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,367 Steve was very, very versed in recovery. 723 00:41:38,433 --> 00:41:42,633 Steve knew the N.A. book back and front. 724 00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:44,867 His nickname was "Mr. N.A." 725 00:41:44,934 --> 00:41:47,500 And I think Josh kind of absorbed a lot of it 726 00:41:47,567 --> 00:41:50,700 and was able to get that knowledge from Steve. 727 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,567 "For this addict, drugs are not my main problem. 728 00:41:57,633 --> 00:41:59,567 "I am my main problem-- my self-destructive 729 00:41:59,633 --> 00:42:01,333 "attitude and behavior. 730 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,567 "What I like about getting high is to escape my feelings. 731 00:42:04,633 --> 00:42:06,033 "I've self-medicated so much 732 00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:09,033 I don't know how to feel anymore." 733 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:13,500 This is his own words. He's writing this. 734 00:42:13,567 --> 00:42:15,934 "Unresolved anger controls me. 735 00:42:16,033 --> 00:42:17,633 "It haunts me day and night, 736 00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:20,300 "sometimes to the point of obsession, 737 00:42:20,367 --> 00:42:24,100 even scary fantasy." 738 00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:25,867 MATTHEW: One of the comments that Steven 739 00:42:25,934 --> 00:42:27,800 had shared with me was 740 00:42:27,867 --> 00:42:29,300 he didn't know what was gonna happen 741 00:42:29,367 --> 00:42:30,900 but something big had to happen 742 00:42:30,967 --> 00:42:33,667 because he had to get away from my mother's house. 743 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,066 BRIAN: May to July, in a one-bedroom apartment, 744 00:42:41,133 --> 00:42:44,800 my mother in the bedroom, Steven on the couch, me on the floor. 745 00:42:44,867 --> 00:42:48,600 And I didn't ever want to be home. 746 00:42:48,667 --> 00:42:51,667 I just didn't, so I'd stay out until 747 00:42:51,734 --> 00:42:54,200 I had to come home to go to sleep, 748 00:42:54,266 --> 00:42:57,700 because I couldn't stand to be in the same room with him. 749 00:42:57,767 --> 00:43:02,000 And then I'd be lying, making believe I'm sleeping in the morning 750 00:43:02,066 --> 00:43:04,467 while he's having coffee with my mom just 751 00:43:04,533 --> 00:43:07,033 running all of his bullshit out of his mouth 752 00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:08,767 about how he's gonna take care of her 753 00:43:08,834 --> 00:43:11,600 and he's gonna be making all this money. 754 00:43:11,667 --> 00:43:14,367 MATTHEW: He's going to reshift and reshape my mother's life 755 00:43:14,433 --> 00:43:16,734 and get them a bigger place, and, you know, 756 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,166 it's gonna be Steven taking care of Mom and-- 757 00:43:21,233 --> 00:43:23,700 on a scale from here to here, 758 00:43:23,767 --> 00:43:24,900 there was that much of me 759 00:43:24,967 --> 00:43:27,433 that actually believed it was gonna happen. 760 00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:30,800 We got into a very physical confrontation one night 761 00:43:30,867 --> 00:43:35,266 and he broke 3 of my ribs and gave me a black eye. 762 00:43:35,333 --> 00:43:39,834 And, you know, I probably should have had him arrested then 763 00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:42,166 because that would have been violation of probation. 764 00:43:42,233 --> 00:43:45,233 Then he would've went to jail and none of this would've ever happened. 765 00:43:47,834 --> 00:43:49,900 MATTHEW: Things were already falling apart. 766 00:43:49,967 --> 00:43:52,700 The lies that Steven had been telling for the last two months 767 00:43:52,767 --> 00:43:54,333 were coming back. 768 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,367 My mother was finding out about it. 769 00:43:56,433 --> 00:43:59,066 She was getting ready to boot him out. 770 00:43:59,133 --> 00:44:00,467 "I don't care what you have to do. 771 00:44:00,533 --> 00:44:03,467 "You need a halfway house. I don't care. 772 00:44:03,533 --> 00:44:05,934 Get out of my house." 773 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,467 So that was Friday. 774 00:44:08,533 --> 00:44:10,200 I don't know the specifics of what happened 775 00:44:10,266 --> 00:44:12,900 Saturday and/or Sunday, but, you know, 776 00:44:12,967 --> 00:44:18,133 things were definitely ramping up to something. 777 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,967 ♪ 778 00:44:21,033 --> 00:44:24,433 MAN: A day or two before the crime occurs, 779 00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:30,767 Steven saw that his life was once again going downhill, 780 00:44:30,834 --> 00:44:35,000 and he says that he locks himself in a hotel room 781 00:44:35,066 --> 00:44:38,333 with crack cocaine and heroin 782 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,967 and goes on this drug binge 783 00:44:42,033 --> 00:44:45,266 with a desire and hope that he would kill himself. 784 00:44:45,333 --> 00:44:47,967 ♪ 785 00:44:48,033 --> 00:44:51,567 He leaves the hotel room feeling like he's failed 786 00:44:51,633 --> 00:44:55,900 at this suicide attempt, leaving him, in his view, 787 00:44:55,967 --> 00:44:58,066 more desperate. 788 00:44:58,133 --> 00:45:03,934 He shows up at an A.A. meeting in Hartford and there's Joshua. 789 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,567 And Joshua started talking to him about 790 00:45:06,633 --> 00:45:11,300 ways to make some real money. 791 00:45:11,367 --> 00:45:16,967 The last contact I had with him before the crime, I think, was 792 00:45:17,033 --> 00:45:19,066 Sunday night? 793 00:45:19,133 --> 00:45:22,033 We said our usual good nights and "I love you" and then 794 00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:25,900 the next morning, I tried to get ahold of Joshua. 795 00:45:25,967 --> 00:45:28,000 Me and my mom were walking to the car and I looked at my mom. 796 00:45:28,066 --> 00:45:30,333 I go, "Mom, something's wrong." 797 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,100 I was like, "Joshua's not answering his phone. 798 00:45:32,166 --> 00:45:33,633 I think something happened." 799 00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:36,400 I was like, "Something definitely is wrong." 800 00:45:36,467 --> 00:45:40,567 ♪ 801 00:45:40,633 --> 00:45:44,367 Ms. Komisarjevsky did call me on-- 802 00:45:44,433 --> 00:45:48,633 I'm pretty sure it was Monday, and she told me that 803 00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:51,133 Joshua went out late that night 804 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,567 and he was wearing dark clothing, like his hoodie. 805 00:45:55,633 --> 00:45:59,834 And Ms. Komisarjevsky told me that he only does that 806 00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:04,500 when he's going out to rob houses. 807 00:46:04,567 --> 00:46:06,800 [Tires screech] 808 00:46:06,867 --> 00:46:11,400 ♪ 809 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,734 [Chipping ice] 810 00:46:56,033 --> 00:47:01,667 The lights that the candles make I think can help to radiate 811 00:47:01,734 --> 00:47:05,166 the--the love that's needed. 812 00:47:05,233 --> 00:47:08,633 ♪ 813 00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:09,867 Well, they're gonna ring the bells 814 00:47:09,934 --> 00:47:11,934 at the churches for 3 minutes, 815 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,233 one minute for each of the Petit women. 816 00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:18,967 ♪ 817 00:47:19,033 --> 00:47:20,767 WOMAN ON TV: You'll remember that last summer, 818 00:47:20,834 --> 00:47:23,834 at what police describe as a random home invasion 819 00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:26,834 and, of course, the darkness that happened on that day 820 00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:29,000 will never be forgotten, but perhaps 821 00:47:29,066 --> 00:47:31,967 for the first time tonight, there is a glimmer of hope 822 00:47:32,033 --> 00:47:35,367 that perhaps some good could come from this evil. 823 00:47:35,433 --> 00:47:38,266 Now, the money raised here will stay in Connecticut. 824 00:47:38,333 --> 00:47:39,767 It will go to the foundation that was founded 825 00:47:39,834 --> 00:47:42,700 by Dr. Petit in the names of his daughters-- 826 00:47:42,767 --> 00:47:46,200 Michaela Miracle and Hayley's Hope--and... 827 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,967 [Bell chiming] 828 00:48:06,834 --> 00:48:08,400 MAN: Good morning, everyone. PEOPLE: Good morning. 829 00:48:08,467 --> 00:48:10,233 This is a hearing in-- a continued hearing 830 00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:11,800 in a matter of a complaint brought by 831 00:48:11,867 --> 00:48:13,767 Colin Poitras and the "Hartford Courant" 832 00:48:13,834 --> 00:48:16,166 against chief of fire department, town of Cheshire... 833 00:48:16,233 --> 00:48:18,066 COLIN: We applied through the town of Cheshire 834 00:48:18,133 --> 00:48:21,300 for more material right after the crime took place. 835 00:48:21,367 --> 00:48:23,567 We finally got new information yesterday. 836 00:48:23,633 --> 00:48:26,500 A complete transcript from the time of the initial call 837 00:48:26,567 --> 00:48:29,467 from the bank official regarding Mrs. Petit being at the bank 838 00:48:29,533 --> 00:48:30,967 saying she might be held hostage 839 00:48:31,033 --> 00:48:33,233 to the time the two suspects were arrested 840 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:35,200 outside the Petit household. 841 00:48:35,266 --> 00:48:37,900 And our review of this document, which is heavily edited 842 00:48:37,967 --> 00:48:41,934 to protect potential witnesses, the town has told us, 843 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,834 raises the possibility that officers on alert 844 00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:46,600 could have maybe stopped this car 845 00:48:46,667 --> 00:48:47,867 with the suspect and Mrs. Petit 846 00:48:47,934 --> 00:48:50,500 as they were coming home from the bank, 847 00:48:50,567 --> 00:48:52,200 perhaps could've beat them back to the house, 848 00:48:52,266 --> 00:48:55,266 could've separated the two suspects at that time 849 00:48:55,333 --> 00:48:59,600 and maybe things would've had a different outcome. 850 00:48:59,667 --> 00:49:01,200 And what's still out there is no one knows 851 00:49:01,266 --> 00:49:03,700 what the initial 911 call said, 852 00:49:03,767 --> 00:49:06,133 what the bank official said to police when she called. 853 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,567 ♪ 854 00:49:09,633 --> 00:49:11,100 What were they told? Was it clear? 855 00:49:11,166 --> 00:49:12,834 Did they know they have a hostage crisis? 856 00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:16,000 ♪ 857 00:49:16,066 --> 00:49:19,667 There's always more information that is yearned for, 858 00:49:19,734 --> 00:49:25,300 either in a journalistic sense, a due diligence reporting sense, 859 00:49:25,367 --> 00:49:28,033 and sadly, in a salacious sense. 860 00:49:29,734 --> 00:49:32,200 So it is hard to say, "No, 861 00:49:32,266 --> 00:49:34,767 I don't have anything to tell you right now," 862 00:49:34,834 --> 00:49:37,567 over and over again. 863 00:49:37,633 --> 00:49:42,900 ♪ 864 00:49:45,433 --> 00:49:47,934 MAN: Upon arrival at the victims' residence, 865 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,967 the first officer observed the private residence 866 00:49:51,033 --> 00:49:53,166 fully engulfed in flame. 867 00:49:53,233 --> 00:49:54,500 SECOND MAN: Yeah, it worked out 868 00:49:54,567 --> 00:49:56,500 so officers arrived on scene 869 00:49:56,567 --> 00:49:59,200 just as the suspects were leaving the residence. 870 00:49:59,266 --> 00:50:02,333 ♪ 871 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,533 I get really tired of the stories that say, 872 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,400 "Oh, by the time the police showed up, 873 00:50:06,467 --> 00:50:07,967 the house was already in flames," 874 00:50:08,033 --> 00:50:10,300 and that's not true at all. 875 00:50:10,367 --> 00:50:13,200 ♪ 876 00:50:13,266 --> 00:50:14,834 When Billy came out of the house, 877 00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:18,400 he was pretty sure that he saw men in the woods hiding behind trees, 878 00:50:18,467 --> 00:50:22,333 and we think those were all the police officers, 879 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,967 and he was calling out to a neighbor 880 00:50:25,033 --> 00:50:30,867 while hopping across the yard, tied and badly beaten. 881 00:50:30,934 --> 00:50:33,667 That should have raised the police eyebrows to say, 882 00:50:33,734 --> 00:50:35,467 "What are they doing in there? 883 00:50:35,533 --> 00:50:39,200 We need to get in there and find out." 884 00:50:39,266 --> 00:50:42,367 MARYBELLE: That's why I wrote letters to the police. 885 00:50:42,433 --> 00:50:46,133 I felt like, and I expressed in my letter that-- 886 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,400 that their--their goal was to catch the men, 887 00:50:50,467 --> 00:50:55,367 whoever were guilty, and above and beyond the saving of lives, 888 00:50:55,433 --> 00:50:59,734 and I felt their priorities were very much askew. 889 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,333 Why didn't they just have a bullhorn 890 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,233 or something saying, you know, 891 00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:06,300 "This house is surrounded. 892 00:51:06,367 --> 00:51:10,734 "You're not going to get out of this alive, 893 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,767 so come on out"? 894 00:51:12,834 --> 00:51:15,867 Why didn't you just go to the door 895 00:51:15,934 --> 00:51:17,633 and break a window or something 896 00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:19,834 and go into that house? 897 00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:24,633 You know, my--my whole inner person said, 898 00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:26,367 "These were precious people. 899 00:51:26,433 --> 00:51:29,333 Why didn't you enter the house?" 900 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,233 ♪ 901 00:51:32,300 --> 00:51:34,767 CYNTHIA: We've asked a lot of questions, 902 00:51:34,834 --> 00:51:37,033 written a lot of letters. 903 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,100 But they have not sat with me 904 00:51:43,166 --> 00:51:45,300 and they have not sat with my parents 905 00:51:45,367 --> 00:51:48,333 to tell us what happened and what unfolded 906 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,767 and why and how. 907 00:51:51,834 --> 00:51:56,967 I believe that truly they think they did something wrong. 908 00:51:57,033 --> 00:51:59,734 I've heard all kinds of things-- that it was a small town 909 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,967 and they hadn't had the experience in the past. 910 00:52:05,033 --> 00:52:08,333 I think they were afraid. 911 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,233 MAN: I just can't say enough good things 912 00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:14,333 about how proud I am of the extraordinary effort 913 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,533 of our police officers and our firefighters. 914 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:18,967 They're extremely well trained, 915 00:52:19,033 --> 00:52:20,500 they're a great group of professionals, 916 00:52:20,567 --> 00:52:24,934 and I think today exemplified the finest of what 917 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,500 the police and fire are all about in this community. 918 00:52:27,567 --> 00:52:29,033 And I can't thank them enough because 919 00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:33,166 without their great work, this could've been a far worse tragedy. 920 00:52:33,233 --> 00:52:35,200 We were very, very fortunate... 921 00:52:35,266 --> 00:52:38,500 I was just literally shocked when I heard him say that 922 00:52:38,567 --> 00:52:42,734 and that there were no further casualties or something, 923 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,300 and I thought, you know, how bad does it have to be? 924 00:52:46,367 --> 00:52:48,900 I mean, I thought it was awful, 925 00:52:48,967 --> 00:52:50,266 and he was commending them 926 00:52:50,333 --> 00:52:52,200 on what a great job they had done 927 00:52:52,266 --> 00:52:58,567 and I--I was sorry, but I didn't feel they did a great job. 928 00:52:58,633 --> 00:53:02,533 I mean, if they had done a great job, nobody would have died. 929 00:53:11,734 --> 00:53:13,166 THOMAS: As you look through this dispatch, 930 00:53:13,233 --> 00:53:15,133 you can't help but walk away thinking, 931 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,567 you know, that there's another tragedy within the tragedy 932 00:53:18,633 --> 00:53:21,667 that occurred to the Petit family here. 933 00:53:21,734 --> 00:53:27,533 9:21:28--initial call comes in to the police department 911. 934 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,834 And this is the call that was actually from 935 00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:33,633 the bank manager. 936 00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:35,700 MARY: I will watch and see what kind of car she gets in. 937 00:53:35,767 --> 00:53:39,166 I'm in my office with the door--with the lights off. 938 00:53:39,233 --> 00:53:41,233 My teller said that she saw the driver. 939 00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:46,400 He had a black hood over-- a hoodie and a baseball cap on. 940 00:53:46,467 --> 00:53:47,400 DISPATCHER: I'm gonna keep you on hold for 941 00:53:47,467 --> 00:53:48,400 another couple minutes, all right? 942 00:53:48,467 --> 00:53:49,900 OK. [Beep beep click] 943 00:53:49,967 --> 00:53:54,900 ♪ 944 00:53:54,967 --> 00:53:58,333 THOMAS: Some police officers were actually at the scene 945 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,533 within seconds or minutes of when 946 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:07,300 Steven Hayes and Jennifer Petit get back to the house. 947 00:54:07,367 --> 00:54:11,567 They had the phone number of the house early on. 948 00:54:11,633 --> 00:54:16,967 Nobody made a call. Nobody knocked on the door. 949 00:54:17,033 --> 00:54:23,934 9:56. Two suspects are moving into Chrysler. 950 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:30,133 9:57. There is a fire also at the scene. 951 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,934 Initial call comes in at 9:21. 952 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,500 This is over a half an hour later. 953 00:54:38,567 --> 00:54:41,467 They were actually at the scene for 30 minutes. 954 00:54:41,533 --> 00:54:43,467 [Siren wailing] 955 00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:52,533 The strangulation of Jennifer Petit occurred. 956 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,467 The rape of Jennifer Petit occurred. 957 00:54:56,533 --> 00:55:01,867 The pouring of gasoline occurred throughout the house 958 00:55:01,934 --> 00:55:06,633 and the actual setting on fire of the house. 959 00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:09,667 All of this is taking place 960 00:55:09,734 --> 00:55:13,033 while the police are watching the house 961 00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:14,667 setting up their perimeter. 962 00:55:14,734 --> 00:55:16,333 It's really outrageous. 963 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,266 ♪ 964 00:55:25,834 --> 00:55:30,333 [Geese honking] 965 00:55:36,233 --> 00:55:38,066 WOMAN: Filling in for Ed Flynn today on "Talk of the Town." 966 00:55:38,133 --> 00:55:39,367 We're gonna take a quick break, 967 00:55:39,433 --> 00:55:41,266 and when we come back we're going to be joined 968 00:55:41,333 --> 00:55:43,667 by Dr. William Petit from the Petit Family Foundation, 969 00:55:43,734 --> 00:55:44,800 so stay with us. 970 00:55:44,867 --> 00:55:46,900 Yeah. 1984. 971 00:55:46,967 --> 00:55:49,867 Our first guest. 972 00:55:49,934 --> 00:55:52,166 There's no audio for me... 973 00:55:52,233 --> 00:55:54,133 MAN: We go directly to you. On 9... 974 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:55,133 WOMAN: OK. 975 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,667 MAN: 8, 7... 976 00:55:56,734 --> 00:55:58,400 WOMAN: Dr. Petit is here, and 977 00:55:58,467 --> 00:56:00,967 as many of you recall, you know, it wasn't that long ago 978 00:56:01,033 --> 00:56:02,600 that, you know, you suffered a tragedy, 979 00:56:02,667 --> 00:56:04,166 losing your wife and your two daughters 980 00:56:04,233 --> 00:56:05,734 in a home invasion. 981 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,300 Talk a little bit, if you will, Dr. Petit, 982 00:56:07,367 --> 00:56:08,934 about the mission, about the mission 983 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,600 of the Petit Family Foundation. 984 00:56:10,667 --> 00:56:11,800 It's essentially to help out 985 00:56:11,867 --> 00:56:14,467 people with chronic illnesses, 986 00:56:14,533 --> 00:56:17,000 which was a nod to Hayley, 987 00:56:17,066 --> 00:56:19,200 who was accepted at Dartmouth and wanted 988 00:56:19,266 --> 00:56:22,033 to major in biology and considered 989 00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:24,433 medicine or other careers. 990 00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:28,066 And to help people affected by violence in their life, 991 00:56:28,133 --> 00:56:33,367 which there's obviously far too much of, 992 00:56:33,433 --> 00:56:36,934 as evidenced by the shootings in Oakland 993 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,900 and the shootings in Pittsburgh. 994 00:56:38,967 --> 00:56:40,800 WOMAN: There are a few things that make me mad as hell, 995 00:56:40,867 --> 00:56:43,734 and one is when I heard that the legislature 996 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,066 was even talking about, even considering 997 00:56:47,133 --> 00:56:49,734 abolishing the death penalty here in Connecticut. 998 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,200 And I'm beginning to wonder, 999 00:56:51,266 --> 00:56:54,000 do I have anything in common with this state anymore? 1000 00:56:54,066 --> 00:56:55,266 I mean, what the heck? 1001 00:56:55,333 --> 00:56:56,734 One of the studies that has been done, 1002 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,300 and it does get brought up by people-- 1003 00:56:58,367 --> 00:56:59,500 Study, study, study. 1004 00:56:59,567 --> 00:57:01,367 Well, this study actually has some 1005 00:57:01,433 --> 00:57:02,967 very good statistics, which are 1006 00:57:03,033 --> 00:57:06,133 most violent criminals who commit the most heinous of crimes 1007 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,333 don't see the death penalty as a deterrent 1008 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,734 because their sociopathic activities 1009 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,934 don't take into account consequences. 1010 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,100 How do you feel about that, Dr. Petit? 1011 00:57:15,166 --> 00:57:17,200 Death penalty's clearly a deterrent, because 1012 00:57:17,266 --> 00:57:18,767 the person that has committed the violent crime 1013 00:57:18,834 --> 00:57:19,967 can no longer commit it again, 1014 00:57:20,033 --> 00:57:22,367 so that person is removed from society, 1015 00:57:22,433 --> 00:57:24,066 and I think they've forfeited their right 1016 00:57:24,133 --> 00:57:27,767 to live in a civilized society, and-- 1017 00:57:27,834 --> 00:57:31,033 the taking of a life, the opponents like to say 1018 00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:33,900 it's murder by the government, but 1019 00:57:33,967 --> 00:57:38,633 that's a semantic issue, because 1020 00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:40,600 murder is the unlawful taking. 1021 00:57:40,667 --> 00:57:43,000 We have laws set down for certain reasons, 1022 00:57:43,066 --> 00:57:45,133 and certainly the defense attorneys spend 1023 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,133 lots of time and lots of our money 1024 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,200 using the law to their benefit, 1025 00:57:49,266 --> 00:57:51,734 and the law says that for certain crimes, 1026 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,667 there's an ultimate penalty, and society's 1027 00:57:54,734 --> 00:57:57,400 believed in that for thousands of years. 1028 00:57:57,467 --> 00:57:58,900 And that fight will continue, and I know 1029 00:57:58,967 --> 00:58:01,934 that is one of the things you're gonna fight passionately, 1030 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,266 to make sure that those laws stay in place, 1031 00:58:04,333 --> 00:58:08,734 and no better spokesman than you, Dr. Petit, 1032 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,767 for why these laws are here. 1033 00:58:11,834 --> 00:58:13,166 MAN: State lawmakers are considering a bill 1034 00:58:13,233 --> 00:58:15,200 that would change the death penalty law, 1035 00:58:15,266 --> 00:58:17,133 and Dr. William Petit gave his opinion 1036 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,500 on the same day of a hearing for one of the men... 1037 00:58:19,567 --> 00:58:20,700 WILLIAM: Death penalty opponents 1038 00:58:20,767 --> 00:58:22,800 speak of the inviolable sanctity of life. 1039 00:58:22,867 --> 00:58:26,767 They love slogans such as "Do not kill in our name" and the like. 1040 00:58:26,834 --> 00:58:28,633 Thus, I assume that death penalty opponents 1041 00:58:28,700 --> 00:58:31,834 value the lives of murderers more than their victims. 1042 00:58:31,900 --> 00:58:34,200 Specifically, to me, as a victim... 1043 00:58:34,266 --> 00:58:36,233 MIKE: You know, if you're for the death penalty, 1044 00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:38,934 this is the poster child, no question about it. 1045 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,667 If you're against the death penalty, like I am, 1046 00:58:40,734 --> 00:58:43,767 this guy is the poster child for the death penalty. 1047 00:58:43,834 --> 00:58:46,333 I mean, him and Saddam Hussein, right? 1048 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,400 Kind of hard to argue the case. 1049 00:58:49,467 --> 00:58:54,734 But it's not a philosophical debate anymore. 1050 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,734 This is reality. 1051 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,567 And the ordeal you have to go through, 1052 00:59:00,633 --> 00:59:04,100 once it's a death penalty case, is considerable. 1053 00:59:04,166 --> 00:59:07,266 ♪ 1054 00:59:07,333 --> 00:59:10,533 MAN: It's a guaranteed multiple-years ordeal 1055 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,567 in terms of just the trial, and after the conviction, 1056 00:59:14,633 --> 00:59:18,100 scores of years of appeals and frustration. 1057 00:59:18,166 --> 00:59:20,867 And all this time, the focus is on the murderers. 1058 00:59:20,934 --> 00:59:24,033 They become mini-celebrities. 1059 00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:27,967 MIKE: You have to go into gruesome detail about what happened, 1060 00:59:28,033 --> 00:59:31,533 because the prosecutors must prove that 1061 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,400 the aggravating factors outweigh the mitigating factors, 1062 00:59:34,467 --> 00:59:37,400 and the aggravating factor is unusually cruel and heinous. 1063 00:59:37,467 --> 00:59:38,900 In other words, you have to prove that 1064 00:59:38,967 --> 00:59:41,033 compared to other triple murders, 1065 00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:44,500 this one is much worse. 1066 00:59:44,567 --> 00:59:47,133 Once this gets under way, people are not gonna like what they see, 1067 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,834 and it's just starting to get under way now. 1068 00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:54,467 And so I guess I'd say to Dr. Petit, you know, 1069 00:59:54,533 --> 00:59:57,734 I don't know who's giving you advice, but 1070 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,000 I think if anyone's implying to you that 1071 01:00:00,066 --> 01:00:01,533 there's a realistic hope that these guys 1072 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,567 would ever actually be executed, I think they're misleading you. 1073 01:00:07,567 --> 01:00:11,433 MAN: The one and only time we had an execution here, in my lifetime, 1074 01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:13,900 in Connecticut, was this guy Michael Ross, 1075 01:00:13,967 --> 01:00:17,367 and that was after 25 years of drama to get to that point, 1076 01:00:17,433 --> 01:00:20,333 and the guy asked to be executed. 1077 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,900 The reality is that you'll feel 1078 01:00:21,967 --> 01:00:24,600 like you're making progress every day, 1079 01:00:24,667 --> 01:00:26,734 but it's gonna go on forever. 1080 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:44,333 ♪ 1081 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,333 [Machinery beeps, whirs] 1082 01:00:57,667 --> 01:01:02,166 DONALD: It'll probably be two years before they even start 1083 01:01:02,233 --> 01:01:04,533 selecting of the jury. 1084 01:01:09,700 --> 01:01:11,700 I'm getting pretty old. 1085 01:01:11,767 --> 01:01:15,767 I hope I live long enough so that I can attend the trial. 1086 01:01:17,667 --> 01:01:20,000 I want to see justice done. 1087 01:01:20,066 --> 01:01:23,600 [Keys clicking on keyboard] 1088 01:01:23,667 --> 01:01:25,467 MATTHEW: "Attention Detective Fran Budwitz 1089 01:01:25,533 --> 01:01:27,834 "of the Connecticut State Police. 1090 01:01:27,900 --> 01:01:30,500 "I give this statement to aid and assist those 1091 01:01:30,567 --> 01:01:33,066 "who now have the burden and huge responsibility 1092 01:01:33,133 --> 01:01:35,934 "of seeking justice. 1093 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,533 "My earliest memories of Steve go back to age 4 or 5. 1094 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,767 "Steve presented himself as the apple of everyone's eye. 1095 01:01:43,834 --> 01:01:47,667 "What many people did not see was the brother I knew. 1096 01:01:47,734 --> 01:01:51,934 "Being young and naive, I arrived home from school in seventh grade. 1097 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,800 "Steven and his friends were using the oven 1098 01:01:53,867 --> 01:01:55,900 "to dry out some marijuana. 1099 01:01:55,967 --> 01:01:57,900 "He turned on the burner on the stove. 1100 01:01:57,967 --> 01:02:00,900 "He told me it was really cool and put my hand over it. 1101 01:02:00,967 --> 01:02:03,767 It's cool. You won't get hurt. 1102 01:02:03,834 --> 01:02:06,033 "As soon as I put my hand over the burner, 1103 01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:08,734 "he pushed my hand onto the hot burner 1104 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,367 "and I had ring scars that lasted for months. 1105 01:02:12,433 --> 01:02:14,800 "To say there hasn't been a history of violence, 1106 01:02:14,867 --> 01:02:17,033 "well, this should--this should serve to say 1107 01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:19,900 "the predisposition was there. 1108 01:02:19,967 --> 01:02:22,934 "It was always there. 1109 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,633 "Within two months of moving, Steve took my mother's car 1110 01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:27,967 "in the middle of the night. 1111 01:02:28,033 --> 01:02:30,100 "Upon calling the police, the relationship 1112 01:02:30,166 --> 01:02:34,834 "with my mom, Steven, and the law enforcement officials began. 1113 01:02:34,900 --> 01:02:37,233 "Steven is not sick. 1114 01:02:37,300 --> 01:02:41,166 "Steven is cunning and calculating. 1115 01:02:41,233 --> 01:02:44,367 "Please exercise discretion. 1116 01:02:44,433 --> 01:02:46,000 "I will assist how I can. 1117 01:02:46,066 --> 01:02:48,233 "However, there is enough to hang him 1118 01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:51,033 "without any family involvement. 1119 01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:53,700 "Steven is alone. He will answer to God, 1120 01:02:53,767 --> 01:02:56,066 "he will answer to the law, and my prayer is 1121 01:02:56,133 --> 01:02:59,333 "he will answer to himself before fate hands him 1122 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:00,867 his final sentence." 1123 01:03:00,934 --> 01:03:03,433 ♪ 1124 01:03:17,033 --> 01:03:18,633 I don't know. 1125 01:03:21,166 --> 01:03:24,266 I'd like to be there from the beginning of each trial 1126 01:03:24,333 --> 01:03:28,266 through the end of each one. 1127 01:03:28,333 --> 01:03:32,433 If there are things to look at that they had to endure, 1128 01:03:32,500 --> 01:03:35,033 I feel like it's part of my life to know 1129 01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:39,033 what they lived through or died through, 1130 01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:43,000 and I just feel like it's not to punish ourselves, 1131 01:03:43,066 --> 01:03:46,700 it's just to know in the end and have that finality of 1132 01:03:46,767 --> 01:03:48,800 "Oh, this is how it looked. 1133 01:03:48,867 --> 01:03:50,934 This is what they say they did." 1134 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,734 ♪ 1135 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,600 MAN AS KOMISARJEVSKY: A thief in the night, I've come to steal 1136 01:04:02,667 --> 01:04:06,200 not jewels and money but your personal safety, 1137 01:04:06,266 --> 01:04:09,867 privacy, and security. 1138 01:04:09,934 --> 01:04:14,333 I violate your inner asylum of intimacy. 1139 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:19,033 I piss on your optical illusion of peace and innocence. 1140 01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:23,533 I feast on your animosity. 1141 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,900 The Petit family passed through their fear 1142 01:04:25,967 --> 01:04:28,767 into the calm waters of abject terror, 1143 01:04:28,834 --> 01:04:33,967 like mesmerized rabbits cornered by a springing predator. 1144 01:04:34,033 --> 01:04:37,934 To see that fear, that emotional pain I feel every day 1145 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,166 manifested on another's face 1146 01:04:40,233 --> 01:04:43,433 validates that this pain in me is real. 1147 01:04:43,500 --> 01:04:47,500 ♪ 1148 01:04:47,567 --> 01:04:49,967 The shockwaves of my self's hopelessness 1149 01:04:50,033 --> 01:04:53,133 reverberated its bitterness through my rocked soul 1150 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:58,133 at the realization that I crossed life's bridge of depravity. 1151 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,400 The awakening of my shadow, repressed within, 1152 01:05:01,467 --> 01:05:03,266 reaching its zenith that morning 1153 01:05:03,333 --> 01:05:06,333 with rapturous control of Michaela. 1154 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,367 Her age was insignificant. 1155 01:05:09,433 --> 01:05:11,567 Come on, Shadow. Come on, Rummy. 1156 01:05:11,633 --> 01:05:15,367 Inside. Let's go. Let's go. Inside. 1157 01:05:15,433 --> 01:05:19,467 CAROLINE: On the phone, Joshua denied raping the 11-year-old, 1158 01:05:19,533 --> 01:05:23,367 but I knew Joshua raped that 11-year-old. 1159 01:05:23,433 --> 01:05:26,033 I just knew. And he kept-- 1160 01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:27,867 Joshua kept telling me that he didn't 1161 01:05:27,934 --> 01:05:30,200 and I didn't believe him. 1162 01:05:30,266 --> 01:05:31,533 I couldn't believe him. 1163 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,667 Because I was raped in ninth grade, 1164 01:05:35,734 --> 01:05:37,266 and... 1165 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:55,400 Before I left, I told him about it. 1166 01:05:55,467 --> 01:06:01,600 ♪ 1167 01:06:01,667 --> 01:06:05,100 I know he didn't know Michaela at the time, 1168 01:06:05,166 --> 01:06:08,333 but I feel like maybe he was thinking of a Michaela 1169 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,400 while he was doing that stuff to me. 1170 01:06:11,467 --> 01:06:15,767 ♪ 1171 01:06:15,834 --> 01:06:18,066 Punishment that would be good enough for him 1172 01:06:18,133 --> 01:06:22,600 would be having done to him what he'd done to them. 1173 01:06:22,667 --> 01:06:26,834 ♪ 1174 01:06:44,533 --> 01:06:46,233 WOMAN: Roll cue to video. 1175 01:06:46,300 --> 01:06:48,734 Sure. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 1176 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,967 There are two suspects, but Steven Hayes 1177 01:06:51,033 --> 01:06:52,600 goes on trial first. 1178 01:06:52,667 --> 01:06:54,066 He is in court today, but he looks 1179 01:06:54,133 --> 01:06:56,100 very different from his mug shot. 1180 01:06:56,166 --> 01:06:59,400 He's lost weight, he's in a regular striped shirt and pants, 1181 01:06:59,467 --> 01:07:01,667 no handcuffs on him in front of the jury. 1182 01:07:01,734 --> 01:07:04,667 And it is because this case has gotten so much publicity 1183 01:07:04,734 --> 01:07:07,767 that picking an impartial jury could be difficult. 1184 01:07:07,834 --> 01:07:09,000 MAN: Sunny, you were inside the courtroom today. 1185 01:07:09,066 --> 01:07:12,667 What sort of state did Komisarjevsky appear to be in? 1186 01:07:12,734 --> 01:07:15,600 He's much heavier now. He sort of has a buzz cut. 1187 01:07:15,667 --> 01:07:18,266 MAN: Komisarjevsky is dressed in a suit 1188 01:07:18,333 --> 01:07:19,667 and engaged in the process. 1189 01:07:19,734 --> 01:07:22,333 Now, if you're wondering how long this is all going to last, 1190 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,200 we're talking about several months. 1191 01:07:24,266 --> 01:07:28,233 This morning, the judge told the... 1192 01:07:28,300 --> 01:07:29,734 WALTER: From the courthouse, I don't think Cheshire's 1193 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,700 but about a 15-minute drive. 1194 01:07:32,767 --> 01:07:34,767 Everybody knew this case. 1195 01:07:34,834 --> 01:07:38,867 Terry Nichols, Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bombing cases 1196 01:07:38,934 --> 01:07:40,867 were number 2 and 3. 1197 01:07:40,934 --> 01:07:42,934 Komisarjevsky was number one. 1198 01:07:44,867 --> 01:07:47,300 Talking to almost 2,000 prospective jurors, 1199 01:07:47,367 --> 01:07:50,700 everyone had made conclusions based on the publicity, 1200 01:07:50,767 --> 01:07:53,200 and that conclusion was very clear. 1201 01:07:53,266 --> 01:07:56,700 Joshua Komisarjevsky was guilty. 1202 01:07:56,767 --> 01:08:01,700 75% also expressed the opinion that Joshua should die. 1203 01:08:01,767 --> 01:08:03,500 I've never had a jury selection where 1204 01:08:03,567 --> 01:08:07,300 people would jump out of their seats--"I'll kill him now." 1205 01:08:07,367 --> 01:08:09,900 It's in the news, Internet. how could you miss it? 1206 01:08:09,967 --> 01:08:13,200 What did you think when you saw him? 1207 01:08:13,266 --> 01:08:16,500 Um...I just think he's a murderer. 1208 01:08:16,567 --> 01:08:19,066 [Siren wailing] 1209 01:08:19,133 --> 01:08:23,300 ♪ 1210 01:08:34,066 --> 01:08:38,266 "Frustrating day, but two more jurors were selected. 1211 01:08:38,333 --> 01:08:42,400 "That came in at 8:13 this morning. 1212 01:08:42,467 --> 01:08:45,834 "Still need 4 more jurors, 6 alternates, 1213 01:08:45,900 --> 01:08:48,066 and two substitutes." 1214 01:08:53,333 --> 01:08:54,867 MATTHEW: So it's about 11:00 this morning 1215 01:08:54,934 --> 01:08:56,400 my time Pacific time, 1216 01:08:56,467 --> 01:09:00,000 and one of Steven's attorney's called. 1217 01:09:00,066 --> 01:09:01,734 They went in to check on him this morning 1218 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,367 and he was unresponsive. 1219 01:09:04,433 --> 01:09:08,667 Steven's lying in a coma induced by, you know, a medical team. 1220 01:09:08,734 --> 01:09:11,133 They're not sharing why. 1221 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,734 You know, the attorney said that he could very well die. 1222 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,867 And they're expected to be back in court tomorrow. 1223 01:09:19,934 --> 01:09:22,400 They can't proceed without him in the room. 1224 01:09:22,467 --> 01:09:27,300 ♪ 1225 01:09:27,367 --> 01:09:29,867 THOMAS: Steven squirreled away 1226 01:09:29,934 --> 01:09:36,633 9 or so doses of Thorazine and Klonopin. 1227 01:09:36,700 --> 01:09:40,500 And you might question how this could happen. 1228 01:09:40,567 --> 01:09:45,066 About a year before this, Steven Hayes had made a suicide attempt 1229 01:09:45,133 --> 01:09:47,266 and one of the things they found in his cell 1230 01:09:47,333 --> 01:09:49,300 was a suicide note. 1231 01:09:49,367 --> 01:09:53,800 I quote, "I am sorry. All I want to do is die. 1232 01:09:53,867 --> 01:09:56,000 "It is the only way to end the pain I go through 1233 01:09:56,066 --> 01:09:58,834 "every day 24/7, and more important, 1234 01:09:58,900 --> 01:10:01,633 "the pain that trial will bring to others. 1235 01:10:01,700 --> 01:10:05,100 "Time to go to the last undiscovered country. 1236 01:10:05,166 --> 01:10:07,800 "Although I am not the monster that Josh is, 1237 01:10:07,867 --> 01:10:09,900 "I am one nevertheless. 1238 01:10:09,967 --> 01:10:13,600 "A coward, because I could not do what was right. 1239 01:10:13,667 --> 01:10:16,166 "Looking back on my life, I was nothing but 1240 01:10:16,233 --> 01:10:20,333 "a self-centered asshole who cared only of himself. 1241 01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,300 "But the ironic facet to this is 1242 01:10:22,367 --> 01:10:25,433 "I have always had the ability to change. 1243 01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:28,800 But cowards don't change. They become me." 1244 01:10:28,867 --> 01:10:33,800 ♪ 1245 01:10:33,867 --> 01:10:37,300 WOMAN: The judge actually toured Hayes' cell yesterday. 1246 01:10:37,367 --> 01:10:41,133 It's called a safe cell, which will protect him 1247 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:42,133 from harming himself. 1248 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:43,300 We learned a lot-- he also wears 1249 01:10:43,367 --> 01:10:46,300 something called Ferguson clothing, which 1250 01:10:46,367 --> 01:10:48,967 an inmate wears if they're in jeopardy of killing themselves, 1251 01:10:49,033 --> 01:10:50,633 because they can't tear up the clothes 1252 01:10:50,700 --> 01:10:52,600 and use it as a noose. 1253 01:10:59,467 --> 01:11:01,367 Good day. Good morning. 1254 01:11:01,433 --> 01:11:03,433 SHELLY: How difficult, Dr. Petit, is it to sit in there 1255 01:11:03,500 --> 01:11:07,367 and have them discuss Hayes' conditions in prison 1256 01:11:07,433 --> 01:11:09,066 for two hours at a time? 1257 01:11:09,133 --> 01:11:11,166 The lights being on? 1258 01:11:11,233 --> 01:11:14,834 Uh, it's difficult. Uh... 1259 01:11:14,900 --> 01:11:17,400 Somehow, it was OK for the defendants 1260 01:11:17,467 --> 01:11:21,767 to bind us and beat us and rape us and torture us 1261 01:11:21,834 --> 01:11:25,400 and set the place on fire, but you can't be-- 1262 01:11:25,467 --> 01:11:28,500 can't be held in a cell with the lights on, 1263 01:11:28,567 --> 01:11:33,367 and somehow there's something wrong with that. 1264 01:11:33,433 --> 01:11:37,567 THOMAS: It's surreal. The entire prosecution 1265 01:11:37,633 --> 01:11:40,900 is geared to killing Steven Hayes, 1266 01:11:40,967 --> 01:11:44,834 and so here he is trying to kill himself 1267 01:11:44,900 --> 01:11:46,433 but we won't let him do that, 1268 01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:49,333 because we want to extract our pound of flesh. 1269 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:54,433 It's really a sick kind of process, in my opinion. 1270 01:11:54,500 --> 01:11:58,100 ♪ 1271 01:12:09,667 --> 01:12:13,500 Tragedy in trial! Front page! 1272 01:12:13,567 --> 01:12:17,667 Tragedy in trial! Front page! 1273 01:12:17,734 --> 01:12:19,100 [Horn honking] 1274 01:12:19,166 --> 01:12:21,767 MAN: Right now, both sides are inside this courtroom. 1275 01:12:21,834 --> 01:12:24,333 All eyes are on what's going to happen 1276 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,567 in these opening arguments. 1277 01:12:26,633 --> 01:12:29,600 The heavy, heavy security around Steven Hayes 1278 01:12:29,667 --> 01:12:32,900 brought in by authorities on a convoy of vehicles... 1279 01:12:32,967 --> 01:12:34,533 SECOND MAN: There's no cameras allowed in the courtroom, 1280 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,767 so you're not going to see what's actually going on in there, 1281 01:12:36,834 --> 01:12:38,600 but tweeting is allowed. 1282 01:12:38,667 --> 01:12:40,467 THIRD MAN: A juror has been excused. 1283 01:12:40,533 --> 01:12:42,834 It's because she said she couldn't be fair, 1284 01:12:42,900 --> 01:12:44,367 because she heard news reports 1285 01:12:44,433 --> 01:12:46,266 of Steven Hayes' suicide attempt. 1286 01:12:46,333 --> 01:12:48,667 This jury will end up making two decisions. 1287 01:12:48,734 --> 01:12:51,567 One will be the guilt or innocence of the defendant, 1288 01:12:51,633 --> 01:12:53,066 and if they find him guilty, 1289 01:12:53,133 --> 01:12:55,100 then they would have to decide 1290 01:12:55,166 --> 01:12:57,066 if he should get the death penalty 1291 01:12:57,133 --> 01:12:58,800 for the crime. 1292 01:13:05,767 --> 01:13:07,867 CYNTHIA: Going into the courtroom, Steven Hayes 1293 01:13:07,934 --> 01:13:11,200 was, like, off to my left. 1294 01:13:11,266 --> 01:13:13,800 I look at him and I think, 1295 01:13:13,867 --> 01:13:17,367 "I still can't believe that you did this." 1296 01:13:17,433 --> 01:13:20,467 ♪ 1297 01:13:20,533 --> 01:13:23,967 I said as soon as I found out that my sister died, 1298 01:13:24,033 --> 01:13:28,333 "Just come into me, be a part of me." 1299 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,100 So I kept staring at him, 1300 01:13:31,166 --> 01:13:33,600 and sometimes I think, "Is that a part of her 1301 01:13:33,667 --> 01:13:35,667 "saying, like, Stare at him. 1302 01:13:35,734 --> 01:13:37,066 Don't take your eyes off of him. 1303 01:13:37,133 --> 01:13:39,100 Like, he--he can't be trusted." 1304 01:13:39,166 --> 01:13:42,934 ♪ 1305 01:13:45,266 --> 01:13:49,834 DONALD: I'd like to say a few things to these guys. 1306 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,834 I'd like them to answer me the question, 1307 01:13:56,900 --> 01:14:01,834 do they know what it is to be terrorized? 1308 01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:07,333 WOMAN: After waiting more than 3 years, 1309 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,867 the Petit and Hawke families are ready for this process 1310 01:14:09,934 --> 01:14:11,467 to finally begin, 1311 01:14:11,533 --> 01:14:14,400 and are hopeful in the end that justice will prevail, 1312 01:14:14,467 --> 01:14:21,166 and we think of Jennifer, Hayley, and Michaela every second of every day. 1313 01:14:21,233 --> 01:14:26,900 It is a system, you know, and people say it's 1314 01:14:26,967 --> 01:14:28,734 the best system in the world, 1315 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,834 but it's a--it's a maddening system at best. 1316 01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:35,667 People spend a lot of time parsing words 1317 01:14:35,734 --> 01:14:39,266 instead of really trying to get to 1318 01:14:39,333 --> 01:14:43,900 what is right and what is wrong, what is good and what is evil. 1319 01:14:43,967 --> 01:14:46,767 But it's the system we have, so we're hoping-- 1320 01:14:46,834 --> 01:14:49,400 we're hoping that the system we have will give us justice. 1321 01:14:49,467 --> 01:14:53,500 ♪ 1322 01:14:55,433 --> 01:15:01,100 MAN: Today's date is July 23, 2007. 1323 01:15:01,166 --> 01:15:02,400 Statements taking place 1324 01:15:02,467 --> 01:15:05,800 at the Cheshire Police Department headquarters. 1325 01:15:05,867 --> 01:15:10,000 Joshua Komisarjevsky, do you know why you're here? 1326 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,767 OK. And you went to Stop and Shop in Cheshire? 1327 01:15:49,333 --> 01:15:52,567 THOMAS: On the night of July 22, 1328 01:15:52,633 --> 01:15:57,500 Josh and Steven were texting each other. 1329 01:15:57,567 --> 01:16:02,633 Steven texting Josh about "When are we gonna get going?" 1330 01:16:02,700 --> 01:16:05,000 It was kind of like an excitement about 1331 01:16:05,066 --> 01:16:07,567 going to burglarize this house. 1332 01:16:07,633 --> 01:16:12,266 ♪ 1333 01:16:14,834 --> 01:16:17,667 He drives down to Cheshire. 1334 01:16:17,734 --> 01:16:21,900 He and Josh go to a bar. 1335 01:16:21,967 --> 01:16:25,400 And then they start looking for this house 1336 01:16:25,467 --> 01:16:27,233 that Josh knows about from when they were 1337 01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:29,800 shopping at Stop and Shop earlier. 1338 01:16:31,567 --> 01:16:34,467 It's always been my opinion that he was attracted by 1339 01:16:34,533 --> 01:16:38,533 the young girl Michaela rather than the money 1340 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,133 or the Mercedes. 1341 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,367 ♪ 1342 01:16:47,266 --> 01:16:50,333 Josh was born into a family with a history of mental problems. 1343 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,800 Then he was adopted by a family 1344 01:16:51,867 --> 01:16:56,166 that had no ability to cope with mental problems. 1345 01:16:56,233 --> 01:17:00,367 And so he was doomed by biology, and then he was doomed by fate. 1346 01:17:02,066 --> 01:17:05,734 When Josh was 3 years old, the family took into the home 1347 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,233 two foster children, a girl and a boy. 1348 01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:13,333 And Josh underwent really horrible and extensive 1349 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,834 sexual abuse at the hand of Scott. 1350 01:17:15,900 --> 01:17:19,333 ♪ 1351 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,300 I think it started off playing little sex games, 1352 01:17:22,367 --> 01:17:24,834 having him pose naked, and then it proceeded 1353 01:17:24,900 --> 01:17:27,200 to full-scale anal intercourse 1354 01:17:27,266 --> 01:17:30,934 and to Josh's being burned with cigarettes. 1355 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,233 Against the background of all of this, 1356 01:17:33,300 --> 01:17:36,133 Josh is at a church in which it is taught 1357 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,467 that there is evil in the world 1358 01:17:37,533 --> 01:17:40,033 and probably the greatest abomination of all 1359 01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:43,400 is homosexuality. 1360 01:17:43,467 --> 01:17:44,934 And so you've got a what, a 5-year-old, 1361 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,867 a 6-year-old, a 7-year-old listening to this 1362 01:17:48,934 --> 01:17:51,533 and thinking to himself that I am fundamentally evil, 1363 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,233 I have engaged in that kind of activity, 1364 01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:56,633 and really not being able to tell anybody about it. 1365 01:17:56,700 --> 01:18:00,367 ♪ 1366 01:18:00,433 --> 01:18:06,700 ERIC: There's a theme that I saw in Steven's life of... 1367 01:18:06,767 --> 01:18:08,567 of betrayal. 1368 01:18:09,967 --> 01:18:13,600 Steven had been sexually abused as a child, 1369 01:18:13,667 --> 01:18:18,800 which led him to become more emotionally 1370 01:18:18,867 --> 01:18:21,900 disconnected from people. 1371 01:18:21,967 --> 01:18:24,867 The turning towards drugs and the desperate state of mind 1372 01:18:24,934 --> 01:18:27,900 that he found himself in, 1373 01:18:27,967 --> 01:18:30,266 all of this helped explain 1374 01:18:30,333 --> 01:18:33,967 how Steven could've done what he had done. 1375 01:18:34,033 --> 01:18:37,533 ♪ 1376 01:20:09,834 --> 01:20:11,633 MAN: KK. Obviously she told you 1377 01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:13,800 her nickname or whatever is KK, 1378 01:20:13,867 --> 01:20:15,033 or you made that up? 1379 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,266 WOMAN: I met Josh when I was 13. 1380 01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:36,333 Josh's parents started attending the church that we went to, 1381 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,400 the Evangelical Bible Church. 1382 01:20:40,467 --> 01:20:42,266 And we dated--we were in a relationship 1383 01:20:42,333 --> 01:20:44,233 for about two years. 1384 01:20:44,300 --> 01:20:48,633 We started, um, dating when I was 14 or 15 1385 01:20:48,700 --> 01:20:51,533 and then our relationship was ended by the church. 1386 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,900 ♪ 1387 01:20:54,967 --> 01:20:56,834 Throughout the whole course of our relationship, 1388 01:20:56,900 --> 01:20:59,300 we were always trying to not have sex. 1389 01:20:59,367 --> 01:21:04,300 That was the goal. It felt deeply, deeply sinful. 1390 01:21:04,367 --> 01:21:07,266 ♪ 1391 01:21:07,333 --> 01:21:11,834 Our church community was our home school community, 1392 01:21:11,900 --> 01:21:14,233 and Josh's family and mine as well 1393 01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:18,567 had a very specific idea of good and evil. 1394 01:21:18,633 --> 01:21:21,867 ♪ 1395 01:21:21,934 --> 01:21:27,233 The devil was understood to be an entity that you could know, 1396 01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:30,066 so if Josh had anxiety, it was the devil. 1397 01:21:30,133 --> 01:21:32,967 If he did something wrong, it was because he was being used 1398 01:21:33,033 --> 01:21:35,667 as a agent of the devil. 1399 01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,166 Josh spoke some to me about the sexual abuse 1400 01:21:42,233 --> 01:21:44,000 that had happened to him, 1401 01:21:44,066 --> 01:21:46,734 but there wasn't even a way for him 1402 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,734 to tell me without weeping. 1403 01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,533 Josh had terrible anxiety attacks. 1404 01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:59,400 His home was not ever safe for him. 1405 01:21:59,467 --> 01:22:04,066 The safe place was being away and hiding in the woods. 1406 01:22:04,133 --> 01:22:07,200 ♪ 1407 01:22:07,266 --> 01:22:10,834 He was trespassing and sneaking around, 1408 01:22:10,900 --> 01:22:18,300 spying on people, long before it was a criminal offense. 1409 01:22:18,367 --> 01:22:19,934 I think that he envied people 1410 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,834 and he would daydream about being them. 1411 01:22:22,900 --> 01:22:25,467 ♪ 1412 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,734 ERIC: They find beer in the refrigerator 1413 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,266 and drink throughout the night. 1414 01:22:36,333 --> 01:22:41,934 Steven finds jars of quarters and coins. 1415 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,734 They found a Bank of America book 1416 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:49,066 and they're waiting for the morning. 1417 01:22:49,133 --> 01:22:52,633 However, Steven worries that 1418 01:22:52,700 --> 01:22:55,567 he's gonna leave DNA evidence in the house, 1419 01:22:55,633 --> 01:23:00,667 and he starts...obsessing. 1420 01:23:00,734 --> 01:23:04,333 And Josh tells him, "Fire destroys everything." 1421 01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,567 THOMAS: "We'll get the people out and we'll burn the house down, 1422 01:23:07,633 --> 01:23:10,266 we'll get them somewhere, and then we'll get the hell out of here." 1423 01:23:10,333 --> 01:23:14,734 That's what Steven was thinking about. 1424 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,533 ERIC: Steven goes into the garage. 1425 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:20,133 He finds containers and starts driving 1426 01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,834 to find a gas station. 1427 01:23:21,900 --> 01:23:26,834 ♪ 1428 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,900 THOMAS: When Steven gets back with the gasoline, 1429 01:23:33,967 --> 01:23:36,166 Josh had changed the clothes of Michaela 1430 01:23:36,233 --> 01:23:38,967 because of activity that he was involved with 1431 01:23:39,033 --> 01:23:41,834 in terms of sexually abusing her. 1432 01:23:41,900 --> 01:23:48,567 And part of that occurred while Steven was out on the gas run, 1433 01:23:48,633 --> 01:23:51,000 because we know that because of Josh's photographs 1434 01:23:51,066 --> 01:23:54,967 that he took on his cell phone before the bank. 1435 01:23:55,033 --> 01:23:57,834 ♪ 1436 01:24:00,166 --> 01:24:05,000 The first set of photographs showed Michaela. 1437 01:24:05,066 --> 01:24:07,767 They were leg shots and genital area shots, 1438 01:24:07,834 --> 01:24:10,700 but they were clothed. 1439 01:24:10,767 --> 01:24:12,533 The last shots while they were at the bank 1440 01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,266 were much more graphic. 1441 01:24:14,333 --> 01:24:16,633 Really awful, awful, awful photographs. 1442 01:24:16,700 --> 01:24:19,300 Those are the kinds of things you never forget. 1443 01:24:19,367 --> 01:24:24,066 They kind of become emblazoned in your mind. 1444 01:24:24,133 --> 01:24:27,400 It just shows the level of depravity 1445 01:24:27,467 --> 01:24:29,900 of Joshua Komisarjevsky. 1446 01:24:29,967 --> 01:24:35,233 ♪ 1447 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,533 Joshua was committed--against the wishes of his parents, 1448 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:45,367 he was committed and spent, I think, two weeks at Elmcrest. 1449 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,834 He was clearly in terrible shape 1450 01:24:50,900 --> 01:24:52,700 and suicidal. 1451 01:24:54,734 --> 01:24:56,433 WALTER: The records are very clear that Joshua 1452 01:24:56,500 --> 01:24:58,400 wanted to try the medication, 1453 01:24:58,467 --> 01:25:02,667 Joshua wanted the therapy, but the parents rejected it. 1454 01:25:02,734 --> 01:25:04,433 Not only did the parents reject it, 1455 01:25:04,500 --> 01:25:06,867 but they immediately took him up 1456 01:25:06,934 --> 01:25:09,400 to the Alton Bay Christian Center. 1457 01:25:11,233 --> 01:25:13,133 FRAN: People would say that he was seeing demons 1458 01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:14,867 and he believed that. 1459 01:25:14,934 --> 01:25:16,567 and would pray that they'd go away, 1460 01:25:16,633 --> 01:25:18,900 and people would gather around him and pray over him 1461 01:25:18,967 --> 01:25:23,000 and lay hands on him and speak in tongues over him. 1462 01:25:23,066 --> 01:25:26,433 Exorcism. That was kind of a regular part of our lives 1463 01:25:26,500 --> 01:25:29,100 when it came to dealing with anxiety. 1464 01:25:30,667 --> 01:25:34,533 He ended up breaking into my room at the discipleship house 1465 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,567 to come and see me. 1466 01:25:36,633 --> 01:25:41,200 He was essentially excommunicated for doing that. 1467 01:25:41,266 --> 01:25:46,433 His whole life, everything, was just gone overnight. 1468 01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:50,266 There was no addressing that perhaps this was a desperate kid 1469 01:25:50,333 --> 01:25:55,033 who actually didn't--wasn't wrestling with the devil 1470 01:25:55,100 --> 01:25:58,700 but had experienced trauma and was losing his grip. 1471 01:25:58,767 --> 01:26:04,000 ♪ 1472 01:26:05,433 --> 01:26:08,333 Some people called our office asking if we would-- 1473 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,467 we would take Josh on in spite of 1474 01:26:10,533 --> 01:26:16,667 some of his legal difficulties as a member of our tour. 1475 01:26:16,734 --> 01:26:20,200 I just gave Josh a little bit of responsibility 1476 01:26:20,266 --> 01:26:23,200 and let him know that I expected him to be a leader, 1477 01:26:23,266 --> 01:26:24,500 and he blossomed. 1478 01:26:24,567 --> 01:26:27,333 He just loved it. 1479 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:32,867 We came to the end of that tour and it was a good tour. 1480 01:26:32,934 --> 01:26:34,333 I think it wasn't long after that 1481 01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,266 that Josh joined the Reserves. 1482 01:26:38,333 --> 01:26:43,033 Then he was discharged 1483 01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:45,600 and then that's when 1484 01:26:45,667 --> 01:26:47,533 his troubles started again. 1485 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:53,400 ♪ 1486 01:26:53,467 --> 01:26:57,367 [Thunder] 1487 01:26:57,433 --> 01:27:03,200 MAN: Morning rolls around. They untie Mrs. Petit. 1488 01:27:03,266 --> 01:27:05,500 Steven takes her to the bank. 1489 01:27:08,166 --> 01:27:09,900 Mrs. Petit is in the bank. 1490 01:27:09,967 --> 01:27:12,900 It's taking longer than he thought. 1491 01:27:12,967 --> 01:27:15,233 ♪ 1492 01:27:30,633 --> 01:27:32,467 MAN: You performed oral sex on KK? 1493 01:27:32,533 --> 01:27:34,166 JOSHUA: On KK. 1494 01:27:39,233 --> 01:27:40,967 Did you take pictures of her? 1495 01:27:51,934 --> 01:27:54,033 Now, you said you let her get dressed again. 1496 01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:57,000 How--how is it she came upon being undressed? 1497 01:27:57,066 --> 01:27:59,767 Because you originally said she was dressed. 1498 01:28:07,467 --> 01:28:09,667 MAN: No one disputes that he committed this crime. 1499 01:28:09,734 --> 01:28:11,567 Eventually, he tells the police officer 1500 01:28:11,633 --> 01:28:13,934 that while Hayes is gone, he goes upstairs 1501 01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,867 and sexually assaults KK. 1502 01:28:15,934 --> 01:28:18,200 At that point, the judge stops the tape. 1503 01:28:18,266 --> 01:28:20,100 He says, "A juror is having problems 1504 01:28:20,166 --> 01:28:22,200 with this testimony, with this evidence," 1505 01:28:22,266 --> 01:28:24,066 and that he's gonna stop it for the day 1506 01:28:24,133 --> 01:28:25,834 and they will continue again tomorrow. 1507 01:28:25,900 --> 01:28:29,567 A very difficult day in court here, LaToya. 1508 01:28:29,633 --> 01:28:31,233 ...start again? 1509 01:28:31,300 --> 01:28:34,100 We're good. 1510 01:28:34,166 --> 01:28:36,100 Thank you very much. 1511 01:28:41,300 --> 01:28:46,734 CYNTHIA: Komisarjevsky was calling my youngest niece "KK." 1512 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,600 Like, you know, who are you to be using that term 1513 01:28:49,667 --> 01:28:54,867 and calling her this, like, term of endearment that we use? 1514 01:28:54,934 --> 01:28:57,166 OK, you show me that baseball bat again 1515 01:28:57,233 --> 01:29:02,900 that you hit Billy with and I'll show you how it feels. 1516 01:29:02,967 --> 01:29:04,767 You want them to lose a daughter. 1517 01:29:04,834 --> 01:29:06,367 You want their house to burn down. 1518 01:29:06,433 --> 01:29:09,333 You want them to see how it feels. 1519 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,400 And--and other times, you think, "Gosh, who am I? 1520 01:29:12,467 --> 01:29:16,433 Like, this is wicked. How could I wish this on anybody?" 1521 01:29:16,500 --> 01:29:21,200 ♪ 1522 01:29:28,567 --> 01:29:32,000 ERIC: Steven is becoming anxious. 1523 01:29:32,066 --> 01:29:34,767 He calls Joshua. 1524 01:29:34,834 --> 01:29:37,000 Joshua tells him, "Everything's gonna be fine. 1525 01:29:37,066 --> 01:29:40,367 The plan is gonna work." 1526 01:29:40,433 --> 01:29:42,300 After a period of time, Mrs. Petit 1527 01:29:42,367 --> 01:29:45,734 comes out of the bank with money. 1528 01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,367 When they arrive back at the house, 1529 01:29:48,433 --> 01:29:51,867 Steven is under the belief that the crime is over. 1530 01:29:51,934 --> 01:29:54,400 Now they could leave. 1531 01:29:54,467 --> 01:29:59,700 But Joshua tells Steven that, we have a problem. 1532 01:29:59,767 --> 01:30:01,934 He had left DNA with one of the children 1533 01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,166 and he had to kill them and their dad, 1534 01:30:04,233 --> 01:30:06,934 and Dr. Petit had died from the injuries, 1535 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,867 and that now he had to get his hands dirty 1536 01:30:09,934 --> 01:30:14,333 and kill Mrs. Petit. 1537 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:18,600 THOMAS: I believe Steven, but from the first time that Josh 1538 01:30:18,667 --> 01:30:21,467 talked to the police, he tried to save himself 1539 01:30:21,533 --> 01:30:25,567 by blaming Steven for all the horrific stuff that occurred. 1540 01:31:04,367 --> 01:31:08,700 ERIC: Steven tells me that he felt betrayed by Josh, 1541 01:31:08,767 --> 01:31:16,100 that he felt dragged into this horror of a crime, 1542 01:31:16,166 --> 01:31:22,567 and he also felt in a crazy way betrayed by Mrs. Petit, 1543 01:31:22,633 --> 01:31:28,033 because he looks out the window and he sees police cars, 1544 01:31:28,100 --> 01:31:32,233 and he realizes that Mrs. Petit must have 1545 01:31:32,300 --> 01:31:35,633 informed bank officials. 1546 01:31:35,700 --> 01:31:42,100 He is triggered into this state of rage. 1547 01:31:42,166 --> 01:31:46,066 He strangles Jennifer Hawke-Petit, 1548 01:31:46,133 --> 01:31:50,400 he pulls down her pants, pulls her legs up, 1549 01:31:50,467 --> 01:31:54,834 and he vaginally rapes her after he strangles her. 1550 01:31:58,233 --> 01:31:59,867 MAN: Which is where the dad was. 1551 01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:25,433 ERIC: Steven hears Josh telling him they have to leave. 1552 01:32:25,500 --> 01:32:28,233 Spread the gasoline and let's get out of here. 1553 01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,066 MAN: Why did you close the doors? 1554 01:32:58,133 --> 01:33:00,300 You knew they were tied but you closed the doors. 1555 01:33:15,233 --> 01:33:17,667 Empty bottles of-- 1556 01:33:17,734 --> 01:33:19,834 Of gasoline, so he went back up with another bottle? 1557 01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:31,934 OK. 1558 01:33:52,867 --> 01:33:57,133 ♪ 1559 01:34:07,166 --> 01:34:08,133 [Siren wailing] 1560 01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:09,400 WOMAN: All of these family members 1561 01:34:09,467 --> 01:34:10,633 that have had to relive 1562 01:34:10,700 --> 01:34:12,967 the horror of what happened inside of that home 1563 01:34:13,033 --> 01:34:14,533 the night they were all tied up 1564 01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:16,767 has been heartbreaking to watch inside of the courtroom. 1565 01:34:16,834 --> 01:34:19,400 The images have been absolutely devastating 1566 01:34:19,467 --> 01:34:20,500 of the crime scene... 1567 01:34:20,567 --> 01:34:22,900 MAN: When it's all put out in front of you, 1568 01:34:22,967 --> 01:34:24,600 it's very gruesome. 1569 01:34:24,667 --> 01:34:26,533 It's--it's insane to just hear 1570 01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,100 and it's just affected the whole town 1571 01:34:28,166 --> 01:34:31,166 and it's like the whole town is just reliving it all again, 1572 01:34:31,233 --> 01:34:34,600 and it's not easy for all of us. 1573 01:34:34,667 --> 01:34:38,934 ♪ 1574 01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,233 CYNTHIA: These are pictures of, like, the accelerant pattern 1575 01:34:43,300 --> 01:34:45,133 that they showed. 1576 01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,400 They went from, I think where Hayley's body was upstairs 1577 01:34:48,467 --> 01:34:50,333 into her bedroom and onto her bed 1578 01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,834 and then down the hall and into Michaela's bedroom 1579 01:34:52,900 --> 01:34:56,200 and onto her bed. 1580 01:34:56,266 --> 01:35:00,066 And when they finally put the fire detective on the stand, 1581 01:35:00,133 --> 01:35:06,100 I saw Michaela was tied and she had gasoline dumped on her 1582 01:35:06,166 --> 01:35:09,433 while she was alive and alert, 1583 01:35:09,500 --> 01:35:12,233 and that at least Hayley, I know, 1584 01:35:12,300 --> 01:35:15,900 was probably burning while she was breathing. 1585 01:35:15,967 --> 01:35:18,166 And that was just a really hard thing to learn, 1586 01:35:18,233 --> 01:35:21,367 because I never really knew if the girls were alive 1587 01:35:21,433 --> 01:35:25,100 when they were burning or not, 1588 01:35:25,166 --> 01:35:29,033 and it kind of was made true to us 1589 01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:31,200 that that was the case with Hayley, 1590 01:35:31,266 --> 01:35:34,200 that she had walked while she was on fire, 1591 01:35:34,266 --> 01:35:36,266 because she fell down and the front of her 1592 01:35:36,333 --> 01:35:41,667 was more burned than the back of her. 1593 01:35:41,734 --> 01:35:43,333 I was crying and I just felt like 1594 01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:46,400 I wanted to get out of that courtroom and scream 1595 01:35:46,467 --> 01:35:48,100 and just say, you know, 1596 01:35:48,166 --> 01:35:50,567 "I can't believe what's going on in there." 1597 01:35:50,633 --> 01:35:54,100 You know, I just--it's making me so angry, 1598 01:35:54,166 --> 01:35:57,066 and I can't understand why somebody couldn't have 1599 01:35:57,133 --> 01:36:00,033 ventilated that house for the girls while they were still alive, 1600 01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:04,867 and I just--I want it to be so different. 1601 01:36:04,934 --> 01:36:06,900 WOMAN: We're finally seeing the defense 1602 01:36:06,967 --> 01:36:10,400 giving tough questioning to the Cheshire police officers 1603 01:36:10,467 --> 01:36:14,200 who initially responded to the call of that home invasion. 1604 01:36:14,266 --> 01:36:16,300 The officers said they followed protocol. 1605 01:36:16,367 --> 01:36:18,533 Dr. William Petit has always supported 1606 01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,166 the actions of the Cheshire Police Department. 1607 01:36:21,233 --> 01:36:23,567 One captain testifying that the incident 1608 01:36:23,633 --> 01:36:26,934 did not make sense at first, and he said, 1609 01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,433 "It still doesn't make sense today." 1610 01:36:29,500 --> 01:36:34,166 ♪ 1611 01:36:51,300 --> 01:36:53,700 THOMAS: Steven admitted to killing the mom. 1612 01:36:53,767 --> 01:36:55,333 He admitted to raping the mom. 1613 01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,333 He admitted to spreading gasoline, 1614 01:36:58,400 --> 01:36:59,767 I mean, so it's not like 1615 01:36:59,834 --> 01:37:04,400 he was trying to get himself out from under in any way. 1616 01:37:04,467 --> 01:37:07,000 And yet Josh was getting this story out 1617 01:37:07,066 --> 01:37:10,567 that Steven knew was false. 1618 01:37:10,633 --> 01:37:12,900 Joshua tried to minimize the sexual assault, 1619 01:37:12,967 --> 01:37:14,333 not make it out to be a rape, 1620 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,433 that it was just contact and ejaculation, 1621 01:37:17,500 --> 01:37:18,734 which is absurd given 1622 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,300 the scientific evidence that exists. 1623 01:37:21,367 --> 01:37:26,000 He tried to blame Steven solely for being the person 1624 01:37:26,066 --> 01:37:29,567 who initiated the gasoline and lighting the gasoline 1625 01:37:29,633 --> 01:37:32,734 when there's gasoline on both of their clothes. 1626 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:36,867 Josh Komisarjevsky was the one who was suggesting 1627 01:37:36,934 --> 01:37:41,567 that they go into a house where people were, 1628 01:37:41,633 --> 01:37:43,867 and for Steven, this was a foolish thing, 1629 01:37:43,934 --> 01:37:47,333 because he was obviously with a guy who 1630 01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,166 was uncontrollable. 1631 01:37:50,233 --> 01:37:53,500 ♪ 1632 01:37:53,567 --> 01:37:57,867 And I think it haunts him, really haunts him, 1633 01:37:57,934 --> 01:38:02,100 as to why he didn't walk away. 1634 01:38:02,166 --> 01:38:07,800 Steven's in an isolation cell 24 hours a day. 1635 01:38:07,867 --> 01:38:09,400 He has nightmares. 1636 01:38:09,467 --> 01:38:13,400 He has nightmares about his own kid burning. 1637 01:38:13,467 --> 01:38:18,367 This is the way his incarceration will last forever. 1638 01:38:18,433 --> 01:38:22,467 So you know, I don't know why we have to kill 1639 01:38:22,533 --> 01:38:25,166 someone who's in a position like that. 1640 01:38:25,233 --> 01:38:27,633 It's like being buried alive. 1641 01:38:31,734 --> 01:38:34,400 WALTER: We, the defense team, always believed 1642 01:38:34,467 --> 01:38:39,500 that Joshua never had the intention to kill anybody. 1643 01:38:39,567 --> 01:38:42,467 After he bashed Dr. Petit's head several times, 1644 01:38:42,533 --> 01:38:45,000 later on, he got a towel. 1645 01:38:45,066 --> 01:38:47,867 He wiped the blood away from Dr. Petit's head. 1646 01:38:47,934 --> 01:38:51,633 He then got two pillows, put them behind his back, 1647 01:38:51,700 --> 01:38:54,600 and he got two cushions, and his explanation, 1648 01:38:54,667 --> 01:38:56,867 which is in his confession, was that he did so 1649 01:38:56,934 --> 01:38:59,900 because he thought Dr. Petit wasn't comfortable enough, 1650 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,600 and he was concerned about his comfort. 1651 01:39:04,967 --> 01:39:09,433 Why didn't he simply walk in and undo the bindings? 1652 01:39:09,500 --> 01:39:11,166 Dr. Leo Shea, a neuropsychologist, 1653 01:39:11,233 --> 01:39:14,367 testified that Joshua was unable 1654 01:39:14,433 --> 01:39:18,233 to make quick decisions in stressful situations. 1655 01:39:19,834 --> 01:39:25,133 What occurred with Michaela is absolutely unexplainable. 1656 01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:30,700 Such a horrendous crime committed on such a young girl. 1657 01:39:30,767 --> 01:39:33,533 People go to jail for a long time for crimes like that, 1658 01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:37,767 but you don't get the death penalty. 1659 01:39:37,834 --> 01:39:41,633 When Joshua was apprehended, when he was pulled from the car, 1660 01:39:41,700 --> 01:39:42,967 he was straight with the police. 1661 01:39:43,033 --> 01:39:44,300 When Steven Hayes was pulled from the car, 1662 01:39:44,367 --> 01:39:46,233 he gave a phony name, and when asked, 1663 01:39:46,300 --> 01:39:47,400 "Was there anybody in the house?" 1664 01:39:47,467 --> 01:39:48,900 he said, "I don't know." 1665 01:39:48,967 --> 01:39:50,867 When Joshua was pulled from the car, 1666 01:39:50,934 --> 01:39:54,233 he gave his name and he said, "There's a woman inside, 1667 01:39:54,300 --> 01:39:56,867 I believe she's dead, and upstairs there's two girls," 1668 01:39:56,934 --> 01:39:58,000 and he expressed to the police 1669 01:39:58,066 --> 01:40:00,000 that there was some urgency to the situation, 1670 01:40:00,066 --> 01:40:01,433 which was pretty obvious because at that time, 1671 01:40:01,500 --> 01:40:03,533 the house was burning. 1672 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,033 To me, these are things that are inconsistent 1673 01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:07,633 with intending to kill somebody. 1674 01:40:07,700 --> 01:40:12,433 [Crowd cheering, horns honking] 1675 01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,300 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 1676 01:40:23,367 --> 01:40:25,367 Everybody came here safe, 1677 01:40:25,433 --> 01:40:28,400 you know, just to support. 1678 01:40:28,467 --> 01:40:32,400 WILLIAM: You know, the teachers after Michaela died said 1679 01:40:32,467 --> 01:40:34,333 whenever... 1680 01:40:40,934 --> 01:40:45,367 whenever someone in the class-- [Cheering and applause] 1681 01:40:45,433 --> 01:40:48,934 [Whistles] 1682 01:40:50,266 --> 01:40:53,834 She said, "Dr. Petit, I just have to tell you that 1683 01:40:53,900 --> 01:40:57,266 "your daughter Michaela was always the one to 1684 01:40:57,333 --> 01:40:59,000 go with the kid who was excluded," 1685 01:40:59,066 --> 01:41:01,333 and I thank you for standing up for justice 1686 01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,567 and what is morally and ethically correct. 1687 01:41:03,633 --> 01:41:06,433 [Cheering and applause] 1688 01:41:16,333 --> 01:41:18,367 THOMAS: Dr. Petit is pretty much out there 1689 01:41:18,433 --> 01:41:21,400 with his foundation, which is obviously a really good thing 1690 01:41:21,467 --> 01:41:24,700 and should be supported, 1691 01:41:24,767 --> 01:41:27,900 but we're in the middle of the state trying 1692 01:41:27,967 --> 01:41:31,166 to get the death penalty. 1693 01:41:31,233 --> 01:41:36,300 So as much as I have incredible sympathy for him, 1694 01:41:36,367 --> 01:41:41,667 I think his outspokenness in this case 1695 01:41:41,734 --> 01:41:45,867 has really affected any ability to get a fair trial 1696 01:41:45,934 --> 01:41:48,367 for either of these two defendants. 1697 01:41:48,433 --> 01:41:49,734 WOMAN: What happened, what was said 1698 01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:51,834 during that conversation with Dr. Petit 1699 01:41:51,900 --> 01:41:54,800 that made you just make a 180? 1700 01:41:54,867 --> 01:41:59,800 Dr. Petit came in with his sister-in-law Mrs. Chapman. 1701 01:41:59,867 --> 01:42:03,200 They said if the legislature this year 1702 01:42:03,266 --> 01:42:06,700 votes to repeal the death penalty, 1703 01:42:06,767 --> 01:42:09,233 it'll make it harder for the jury 1704 01:42:09,300 --> 01:42:13,033 to make the decision of the death penalty 1705 01:42:13,100 --> 01:42:17,667 for this monster, this Komisarjevsky. 1706 01:42:17,734 --> 01:42:20,333 I can only imagine that one-on-one conversation. 1707 01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:22,567 You're sitting as close as probably we are now. 1708 01:42:22,633 --> 01:42:27,000 You have no idea. I could not bring myself 1709 01:42:27,066 --> 01:42:31,667 to cause this man any more stress. 1710 01:42:31,734 --> 01:42:34,300 He's a monster. He is a monster, 1711 01:42:34,367 --> 01:42:36,166 and I said, "He's such a monster 1712 01:42:36,233 --> 01:42:38,100 "they should hang him by his penis 1713 01:42:38,166 --> 01:42:40,800 out from a tree in Main Street." 1714 01:42:40,867 --> 01:42:43,700 I can't think of anything bad enough 1715 01:42:43,767 --> 01:42:45,467 that should happen to that man. 1716 01:42:45,533 --> 01:42:50,734 ♪ 1717 01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:57,066 ALICIA: I actually got to see Steve twice, 1718 01:42:57,133 --> 01:42:59,834 the past two Sundays. 1719 01:42:59,900 --> 01:43:01,900 When I first saw him, I wanted to cry, 1720 01:43:01,967 --> 01:43:03,700 because I haven't seen him in so long, 1721 01:43:03,767 --> 01:43:08,000 but I just didn't want to cry under those circumstances. 1722 01:43:08,066 --> 01:43:11,533 You have all the guards standing right on top of you. 1723 01:43:13,667 --> 01:43:16,266 And you can't talk about the trial because, 1724 01:43:16,333 --> 01:43:19,166 like, you know that the phones are pretty tapped. 1725 01:43:21,700 --> 01:43:25,233 I know that the family wants him to be dead 1726 01:43:25,300 --> 01:43:27,333 and it all to be over with, 1727 01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,100 but, like, my side of the family, 1728 01:43:29,166 --> 01:43:31,433 we just want him to, like, 1729 01:43:31,500 --> 01:43:33,867 take responsibility for what he did 1730 01:43:33,934 --> 01:43:37,567 without the consequence of the death penalty. 1731 01:43:37,633 --> 01:43:40,734 That won't bring anyone back. 1732 01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,233 What happened happened and his death 1733 01:43:43,300 --> 01:43:46,934 isn't gonna bring about much justice. 1734 01:43:51,433 --> 01:43:54,367 MAN: Steven Hayes walked into room 6A. 1735 01:43:54,433 --> 01:43:56,100 For the first time, he saw a familiar face. 1736 01:43:56,166 --> 01:43:57,700 It was his brother Matthew. 1737 01:43:57,767 --> 01:43:59,667 The first time that we believe a Hayes family member 1738 01:43:59,734 --> 01:44:01,767 has been in court. 1739 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:24,567 ♪ 1740 01:44:24,633 --> 01:44:26,633 MAN: Prosecutor Michael Dearington said, 1741 01:44:26,700 --> 01:44:29,300 "These two beautiful girls and loving mother were killed 1742 01:44:29,367 --> 01:44:32,133 because Steven Hayes wanted money." 1743 01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:35,433 Defense attorney Thomas Ullmann argued that life without parole 1744 01:44:35,500 --> 01:44:38,500 is the harshest punishment Steven Hayes could be given. 1745 01:44:46,266 --> 01:44:47,867 MAN: State's attorney Gary Nicholson 1746 01:44:47,934 --> 01:44:50,867 did not mince words as he spoke to the jury 1747 01:44:50,934 --> 01:44:52,934 in his closing arguments this morning, 1748 01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,700 saying that Joshua Komisarjevsky is, quote, 1749 01:44:55,767 --> 01:44:57,166 "No shrinking violet. 1750 01:44:57,233 --> 01:45:00,467 He played a starring role in this crime." 1751 01:45:00,533 --> 01:45:02,300 Nicholson hammered the point 1752 01:45:02,367 --> 01:45:05,266 that Komisarjevsky was first in the house, 1753 01:45:05,333 --> 01:45:08,166 the first to use violence, and had plenty of opportunity 1754 01:45:08,233 --> 01:45:09,600 to leave the home. 1755 01:45:09,667 --> 01:45:11,667 He gave Steven Hayes directions back to the house, 1756 01:45:11,734 --> 01:45:14,300 but Hayes went and bought gasoline. 1757 01:45:14,367 --> 01:45:15,734 It's not fair, is it? 1758 01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:19,600 No. No. No. Mm. 1759 01:45:29,333 --> 01:45:32,967 You know, all I think of is the impact that our girls 1760 01:45:33,033 --> 01:45:36,433 could've made upon the world. 1761 01:45:36,500 --> 01:45:40,800 And, of course, none of that will ever come forth from 1762 01:45:40,867 --> 01:45:44,033 Joshua Komisarjevsky. 1763 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:49,133 MAN: What's the jury weighing? 1764 01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,066 Aggravating factors against mitigating factors. 1765 01:45:52,133 --> 01:45:54,734 The aggravating factors brought out by the prosecution-- 1766 01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,700 the heinous nature of the crimes. 1767 01:45:56,767 --> 01:45:59,166 For the mitigating factors that the defense presented, 1768 01:45:59,233 --> 01:46:00,667 they pointed to a very difficult 1769 01:46:00,734 --> 01:46:03,266 early childhood of Joshua Komisarjevsky. 1770 01:46:03,333 --> 01:46:06,100 The defense said they turned to prayer instead. 1771 01:46:06,166 --> 01:46:08,967 They also pointed to a series of concussions when he was a boy, 1772 01:46:09,033 --> 01:46:11,533 drug use in his teenage and early twenty years, 1773 01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,367 all saying it mitigates what happens. 1774 01:46:13,433 --> 01:46:16,166 It means he didn't really know what was going on, 1775 01:46:16,233 --> 01:46:18,667 couldn't make a decision to stop what was going on 1776 01:46:18,734 --> 01:46:20,700 that night in July of 2007, 1777 01:46:20,767 --> 01:46:23,333 and so his life should be spared. 1778 01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:24,433 No verdict today. 1779 01:46:24,500 --> 01:46:27,300 We do expect a verdict by the end of the week. 1780 01:46:32,133 --> 01:46:35,233 WILLIAM: We're good. You guys can reach, right? 1781 01:46:35,300 --> 01:46:37,667 DONALD: Oh, Lord, we gather around this table 1782 01:46:37,734 --> 01:46:40,900 as family and friends. 1783 01:46:40,967 --> 01:46:44,867 We stand at a place in the trial where 1784 01:46:44,934 --> 01:46:48,867 we wonder what will take place. 1785 01:46:48,934 --> 01:46:51,033 But we pray, O God, that we will be able 1786 01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:53,633 to be strong enough 1787 01:46:53,700 --> 01:46:57,767 to accept whatever the outcome may be, 1788 01:46:57,834 --> 01:47:02,266 that it would be your will that would be done. 1789 01:47:02,333 --> 01:47:06,033 For we ask it in the name of Christ. Amen. 1790 01:47:06,100 --> 01:47:07,934 ALL: Amen. 1791 01:47:11,033 --> 01:47:14,367 This is all about death or life without parole. 1792 01:47:14,433 --> 01:47:15,467 Really, it does seem like 1793 01:47:15,533 --> 01:47:17,133 the most kind, humane thing 1794 01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:18,734 you could do for a person 1795 01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:23,900 is to allow them to just die. 1796 01:47:23,967 --> 01:47:30,400 I thought of how much that challenges the jurors. 1797 01:47:30,467 --> 01:47:36,200 DONALD: A lot of pressure has been placed upon their shoulders. 1798 01:47:36,266 --> 01:47:39,967 I'm glad I'm not in that room. 1799 01:47:40,033 --> 01:47:42,367 Yeah. 1800 01:47:42,433 --> 01:47:44,266 Never get those pictures 1801 01:47:44,333 --> 01:47:48,033 out of their heads for the rest of their lives, you know? 1802 01:47:48,100 --> 01:47:53,200 It's been very traumatic for everyone. 1803 01:47:53,266 --> 01:47:57,967 ♪ 1804 01:48:15,333 --> 01:48:18,867 WOMAN: This is a case that had just rattled people, 1805 01:48:18,934 --> 01:48:21,266 and a lot of people say that if there is a case 1806 01:48:21,333 --> 01:48:23,867 that warrants the death penalty, this is it. 1807 01:48:23,934 --> 01:48:25,367 Wait a minute. I want to read you something 1808 01:48:25,433 --> 01:48:28,000 that we're--we're getting some word on, 1809 01:48:28,066 --> 01:48:29,400 and you might be able to explain it to us. 1810 01:48:29,467 --> 01:48:32,967 The jurors are standing. The clerk is reading the verdict form. 1811 01:48:33,033 --> 01:48:35,734 Count 4, no statutory mitigators. 1812 01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,000 Both aggravators are proven. 1813 01:48:38,066 --> 01:48:43,200 OK. The defendant is sentenced to death, Sunny. 1814 01:48:43,266 --> 01:48:44,967 MAN: The jury returns. 1815 01:48:45,033 --> 01:48:46,200 Death penalty verdict. 1816 01:48:46,266 --> 01:48:48,066 MAN: Death for the monster who slaughtered 1817 01:48:48,133 --> 01:48:50,333 the Connecticut doctor's family. 1818 01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:53,133 Tonight, a Connecticut jury has done something very rare. 1819 01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:54,667 A Connecticut jury has recommended death 1820 01:48:54,734 --> 01:48:55,834 for Steven Hayes. 1821 01:48:55,900 --> 01:48:57,700 He's convicted of raping and murdering a mom, 1822 01:48:57,767 --> 01:49:02,266 Jennifer Hawke-Petit, and her two daughters, Hayley and Michaela. 1823 01:49:05,734 --> 01:49:08,166 THOMAS: The verdict was devastating. 1824 01:49:09,967 --> 01:49:12,066 Steven wanted a death verdict 1825 01:49:12,133 --> 01:49:14,433 and knew we did everything in our power 1826 01:49:14,500 --> 01:49:16,667 to prevent that from happening, 1827 01:49:16,734 --> 01:49:19,233 in spite of his own efforts to kill himself. 1828 01:49:19,300 --> 01:49:23,667 ♪ 1829 01:49:33,700 --> 01:49:36,800 [Siren wailing] 1830 01:49:38,567 --> 01:49:40,500 MAN: This case gets attention in Australia. 1831 01:49:40,567 --> 01:49:42,567 It got attention in Europe. 1832 01:49:42,633 --> 01:49:45,734 You know, this was any town, America, any family America, 1833 01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,200 and when you saw just how that was shattered 1834 01:49:48,266 --> 01:49:51,266 in a few hours, I think that's powerful... 1835 01:49:54,567 --> 01:49:56,934 Count 5 is death. 1836 01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:58,433 The second count, count 5 1837 01:49:58,500 --> 01:50:00,500 in the murder of Michaela Petit, is death, 1838 01:50:00,567 --> 01:50:02,133 that he intentionally caused the death of a person 1839 01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:05,300 under 16 years old. 1840 01:50:05,367 --> 01:50:06,900 All right, count 10 is death. 1841 01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:08,700 That's--he intentionally caused 1842 01:50:08,767 --> 01:50:13,500 the death of Jennifer Hawke-Petit, the mother. 1843 01:50:13,567 --> 01:50:15,767 OK, count 11 is death. 1844 01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:24,400 MAN: A couple of marshals came up behind Joshua in cuffs 1845 01:50:24,467 --> 01:50:26,700 and really no reaction at all. 1846 01:50:26,767 --> 01:50:29,467 Given the public outrage for these horrendous crimes, 1847 01:50:29,533 --> 01:50:31,100 that we just couldn't get a fair jury here 1848 01:50:31,166 --> 01:50:32,567 and we still feel that way, 1849 01:50:32,633 --> 01:50:34,900 and that's why we had filed a motion to change venue 1850 01:50:34,967 --> 01:50:36,600 and believe it should have been-- 1851 01:50:36,667 --> 01:50:37,834 should have been granted, so that'll be 1852 01:50:37,900 --> 01:50:40,033 one of the main appellate issues. 1853 01:50:40,100 --> 01:50:41,934 I believe the death penalty is just barbaric 1854 01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,033 and it puts us in line with countries like 1855 01:50:44,100 --> 01:50:47,834 China, Yemen, Iraq, Iran. 1856 01:50:47,900 --> 01:50:49,266 I don't know what other purpose it serves 1857 01:50:49,333 --> 01:50:51,066 other than simply revenge. 1858 01:50:51,133 --> 01:50:53,400 Walter Bansley III, thank you very much. 1859 01:50:53,467 --> 01:50:54,600 Denise, of course, yeah, 1860 01:50:54,667 --> 01:50:56,166 we're gonna have continuing coverage here. 1861 01:50:56,233 --> 01:50:58,033 The death penalty has been given 1862 01:50:58,100 --> 01:50:59,967 to Joshua Komisarjevsky. 1863 01:51:00,033 --> 01:51:05,667 ♪ 1864 01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:13,633 We are satisfied that the defendant has been judged 1865 01:51:13,700 --> 01:51:18,467 to be the murderer, the rapist, and criminal that he is, 1866 01:51:18,533 --> 01:51:22,667 and now he's been condemned to the ultimate penalty. 1867 01:51:22,734 --> 01:51:25,367 We certainly have been criticized over the years 1868 01:51:25,433 --> 01:51:29,834 that this is vengeance and blood lust, but 1869 01:51:29,900 --> 01:51:31,800 this is really about justice. 1870 01:51:31,867 --> 01:51:36,133 We want to go forward with the Petit Family Foundation 1871 01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:41,300 and try to continue to create good out of evil and... 1872 01:51:41,367 --> 01:51:44,300 The defense did what they thought they should do. 1873 01:51:44,367 --> 01:51:47,667 I thought a lot of it was particularly distasteful. 1874 01:51:47,734 --> 01:51:50,166 We saw picture after picture after picture, 1875 01:51:50,233 --> 01:51:53,066 and every time one of those pictures went up, I thought, 1876 01:51:53,133 --> 01:51:54,867 "Charles Manson was a baby once. 1877 01:51:54,934 --> 01:51:58,333 I'm not sure that this is particularly relevant." 1878 01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,100 I'd just like to thank our justice system 1879 01:52:00,166 --> 01:52:02,200 as well as the jury members, 1880 01:52:02,266 --> 01:52:04,767 listening to a lot of things that they would much rather 1881 01:52:04,834 --> 01:52:07,700 not heard or seen. 1882 01:52:07,767 --> 01:52:10,467 I believe that without our defense attorneys, 1883 01:52:10,533 --> 01:52:15,000 we could not have the outcome that we have, 1884 01:52:15,066 --> 01:52:17,266 so we have to even be appreciative 1885 01:52:17,333 --> 01:52:21,433 that there are defense attorneys that will take cases like this. 1886 01:52:21,500 --> 01:52:25,400 And I believe God's will has been done. 1887 01:52:33,066 --> 01:52:34,367 I don't really want to answer any questions. 1888 01:52:34,433 --> 01:52:40,000 I--I feel so sad that my answers... 1889 01:52:40,066 --> 01:52:42,100 I don't know if any of the other defense attorneys-- 1890 01:52:42,166 --> 01:52:43,400 MAN: ...on death row now. 1891 01:52:43,467 --> 01:52:45,033 There will be automatic appeals. 1892 01:52:45,100 --> 01:52:47,000 There will be appeals upon appeals. 1893 01:52:47,066 --> 01:52:50,133 This will go on for years and years and years, and... 1894 01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:55,800 ♪ 1895 01:52:55,867 --> 01:52:57,567 JEREMIAH: We offered to plead guilty to every charge 1896 01:52:57,633 --> 01:52:59,433 in the information against us 1897 01:52:59,500 --> 01:53:02,433 so long as death wasn't the result. 1898 01:53:02,500 --> 01:53:03,900 And so Joshua would've been sentenced 1899 01:53:03,967 --> 01:53:07,266 to life without the possibility of release. 1900 01:53:07,333 --> 01:53:08,500 It would've happened, you know, 1901 01:53:08,567 --> 01:53:10,967 3 weeks after the crime had taken place. 1902 01:53:11,033 --> 01:53:14,667 Josh would've disappeared into the--into the great abyss 1903 01:53:14,734 --> 01:53:20,700 of the penal system, and would never be heard from again. 1904 01:53:20,767 --> 01:53:26,000 But that wasn't a serious enough punishment for the state, 1905 01:53:26,066 --> 01:53:27,567 and of course, the state was being 1906 01:53:27,633 --> 01:53:30,667 goaded on by Dr. Petit. 1907 01:53:30,734 --> 01:53:37,066 And so we had to go through 3 years of Hayes and Joshua 1908 01:53:37,133 --> 01:53:39,433 and just forcing the people of Connecticut 1909 01:53:39,500 --> 01:53:41,433 to relive that crime day after day after day 1910 01:53:41,500 --> 01:53:45,934 I think kind of coarsened the social fabric of Connecticut. 1911 01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,667 It would've been so much better just to throw those guys in jail 1912 01:53:47,734 --> 01:53:50,500 and throw away the key, but-- 1913 01:53:50,567 --> 01:53:52,400 GIRL: She's pitching! 1914 01:53:54,367 --> 01:53:58,300 [Applause, indistinct shouting] 1915 01:53:58,367 --> 01:54:01,567 ♪ 1916 01:54:04,834 --> 01:54:08,834 ♪ 1917 01:54:21,734 --> 01:54:24,433 DONALD: The most difficult thing that I had to do in my life 1918 01:54:24,500 --> 01:54:29,100 was to bury my own child and two grandchildren. 1919 01:54:29,166 --> 01:54:34,333 ♪ 1920 01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:38,200 I don't think there will ever be closure 1921 01:54:38,266 --> 01:54:40,200 for our family. 1922 01:54:42,567 --> 01:54:49,400 Jennifer was too much of a giving, loving person, 1923 01:54:49,467 --> 01:54:53,200 and I don't think that we will ever, ever, 1924 01:54:53,266 --> 01:54:58,433 if we live another 100 years, would ever want to forget her. 1925 01:54:58,500 --> 01:55:01,600 So if closure brings forgetting, 1926 01:55:01,667 --> 01:55:03,967 I don't want that closure. 1927 01:55:04,033 --> 01:55:06,333 [Birds chirping] 1928 01:55:12,734 --> 01:55:16,266 [Dog barking] 1929 01:55:16,333 --> 01:55:21,533 ♪ 1930 01:56:34,133 --> 01:56:39,266 ♪ 143775

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