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[Rain falling]
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[Thunder]
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MAN: Cheshire Emergency.
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WOMAN: My name is
Mary Lyons.
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I'm the banking
center manager.
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We have a lady who is
in our bank right now
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who says that her
husband and children
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are being held
at their house.
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The people are in a car
outside the bank.
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She is getting $15,000
to bring out to them,
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that if the police
are told, they will kill
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the children
and the husband.
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Her name is Jennifer
Petit--P-e-t-i-t.
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OK. Is she
still in the bank?
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Yes, she is.
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OK. She's being
held or...
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Her--her husband--
husband and family
is being held?
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Yes.
At their house?
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Yes. They're tied up.
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She said they
drove her here.
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I'm trying to look
and see where
she's gone.
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She went outside
but I don't--
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oh, wait, I see her
walking now.
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She is petrified.
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♪
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[Police radio]
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And we have--
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Again, facts like that
I can't comment on.
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And a male survivor.
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MAN: Upon arrival at
the victims' residence,
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the first officer observed
two male subjects
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exit private residence
and also observed
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the private residence
fully engulfed in flame.
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The suspect vehicle
rammed the Cheshire
police officer's car
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and continued
on Sorghum Mill Road.
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WOMAN: Tonight, police removed
the body of one of the victims
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after a home invasion
leaves a mother and her
two daughters dead.
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SECOND WOMAN: The suspects,
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26-year-old Joshua Komisarjevsky
of Cheshire
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and 44-year-old
Steven Hayes of Winsted
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were caught while trying
to escape in the Petits' car.
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Now, the only question
remains that why
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did this happen
to the Petit family.
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♪
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There's not one word
that I can use to
describe our town,
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but it's
a phenomenal town.
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[Crowd cheering]
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MAN: It's known as the bedding
capital of Connecticut,
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for bedding plants.
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SECOND MAN: It was historically
a farming community,
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a lot of family farms, and as
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the state of Connecticut grew,
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as the cities surrounding
the town of Cheshire grew,
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it ultimately became
a bedroom community,
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which I think is probably
the way most people
think of Cheshire.
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♪
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WOMAN: Returning now
to tonight's top story.
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A mother and her two daughters
are dead,
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their father severely injured,
after a home invasion
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stunned the town of Cheshire.
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SECOND WOMAN: The suspects
apparently set the house on fire
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as well as some of the victims.
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THIRD WOMAN: Jennifer Petit,
her cause of death
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has been asphyxiation
from strangulation.
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Her daughters
Hayley and Michaela
died from smoke inhalation.
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♪
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WOMAN: I got a phone call here
on Monday afternoon
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from Billy's sister, and I said,
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"Hannah, it's about the girls,
isn't it?"
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And she said,
"These two men came in
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"at what they think was
3:00 in the morning
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"and they beat Billy really
badly with a baseball bat
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"and his head's all split apart,
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"and then they proceeded to do
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"all these awful things
to the girls,
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and they tied them
to their beds."
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"About 9:00, Jen was made
to go to the bank
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"and withdraw money and then
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"when she came back
from the bank,
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"they set the house on fire
and killed them all
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"so that they could try to cover
up their tracks, I guess,
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but they got the two guys,"
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and all I could think was,
"Who cares if they got
the two guys?
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"We don't have our
loved ones anymore,
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and that's all we had."
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Wild lingonberry.
Have you ever
had that?
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Lingonberry.
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It's from England,
somewhere.
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CYNTHIA: The hardest thing
I think I've ever had
to do in my life
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was to tell my parents that
one of their other children,
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their only other child,
was dead,
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and their two grandchildren,
two of their four.
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MAN: She quickly told us that
the home was set on fire but
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Bill escaped.
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We went to the hospital and got
to see Bill for the first time.
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He was badly beaten and he
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tried to apologize to us
for not saving our daughter
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and our grandchildren.
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And we had
to convince him that
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he was in no condition
to be able to save anyone
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and we were grateful...
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that he was alive.
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that he was alive.
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This is the last--sort of
picture that we had together.
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My sister--she was beautiful,
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and she was usually, like,
the lead in the plays at school.
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She was on the homecoming court.
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She was captain of
the Trojanette team.
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So she really was
kind of like a winner person.
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DONALD: Bill was
a committed,
dedicated doctor.
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Would leave at 7:00
in the morning
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and not be back home
until maybe 9:00,
9:30.
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CAROLYN: When Jen was diagnosed
with multiple sclerosis,
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Hayley really wanted
to raise money because
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she felt like if she
didn't do anything,
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it was possible that
her mother could die.
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MAN: Hayley was able to raise
a little over $50,000
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being a spokesperson for the MS
Society here in Connecticut,
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receiving awards for that,
although you'd never know it.
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GIRL: I hardly knew about Hayley
helping with MS,
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and that was just because
she was just so quiet
about everything,
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and she could have bragged
about everything she did.
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I mean, she was
a straight-"A" student.
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I think about her all the time.
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It's hard not
to think about her.
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You'll find just something
to relate to her about.
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♪
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MARYBELLE: Michaela sometimes
shied away from adults,
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but she saw somebody was
having a difficult time,
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she went to them
and tried to help
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with whatever she could.
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♪
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DONALD: Their lives were
just centered around
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a sense of sociability, justice.
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And if I didn't smile about it,
I'd have to cry.
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MAN: Apparently,
these two losers followed
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Jennifer Hawke-Petit
and her 11-year-old daughter
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to the Stop and Shop
on Sunday night.
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They followed them.
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And the first Cheshire police
officer to arrive at the scene
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heard at least one of the girls
screaming from inside the house.
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SECOND MAN: Those animals,
what they did
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to those poor people
of Cheshire,
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I can't even believe that
they're gonna give them
a trial.
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What kind of laws do we
have in this state
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where they don't just
execute those animals?
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Well, Tony, the reaction
by the public certainly
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is for that,
but it is...
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[Gunshots]
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To destroy a family the way
those two did--heinous.
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My verdict--fry them.
Hang them.
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Do whatever you gotta do.
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Make sure they ain't gonna
walk this earth again.
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♪
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WOMAN: Can we switch?
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Yup.
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You need more?
Yeah. I'm gonna need
a little more.
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I don't think evil like this has
happened since "In Cold Blood."
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I really don't.
Not that I know of.
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And we went from being a quiet,
peaceful town in New England
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to overnight people installing
alarm systems
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and panic buttons
and panic rooms.
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♪
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WOMAN: People in town
refer to it as Cheshire's 9/11.
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You know, life was one way
and then it's another.
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♪
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MINISTER: God has promised
to be with us through thick
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and through thin.
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All other ground
is indeed sinking sand.
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♪
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Well, first of all...
thank you
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for all coming out today to
honor the memory of the girls.
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I'd really like to say
thank you to...
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people from all over
the state of Connecticut
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and all over the country.
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We've been...
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surrounded with love and cards
and flowers and prayer
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from east to west
and north to south.
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I met Jen at Children's Hospital
in Pittsburgh.
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4 Med.
She was a new nurse
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and I was the know-it-all
third-year medical student.
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I was trying to correct Jen on
how to take the blood pressure
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the correct way.
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[Laughter]
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I had about 3 minutes of
experience at that point.
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[Laughter]
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But it became clear
pretty quickly that
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she knew more about pediatrics
and how to care for kids
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than I had ever known.
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One of the nice things...
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CYNTHIA: Billy had
never smelled smoke.
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He had never seen a fire.
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He had said that
the only thing he ever heard
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of my sister was her, like,
pleading nicely
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with these two men--"Can you
please let me get my purse,
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or they'll know that something
is up at the bank."
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He had his legs tied together
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and he hopped up the outside
basement steps
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and he said,
"But sometimes I wish
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"I would've just
gone to the inside
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"because then maybe,
even if I had died in there,
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I could've done something."
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And I said, "No, Billy.
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"You couldn't have
done anything.
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"Attached to a pole with your
hands and feet tied
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"in the basement with about
6 to 8 3- to 4-inch
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openings in your skull?"
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And we knew that the police
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did not help my brother-in-law
out of the house.
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So the chances that he lived
surviving the blood loss
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are just miraculous in my mind.
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WOMAN: Joining me
on the phone right now is
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Lieutenant Jay Markella,
the public information officer
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for the Cheshire
Police Department.
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Thank you for joining us.
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JAY: Thank you
for having me.
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WOMAN: Very little detail
coming out, though,
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about exactly
what happened.
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Was it when
police showed up
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that they found
the house on fire
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and caught these
suspects?
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Because they were caught
leaving the burning house.
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Yeah. It worked out
so officers arrived
on scene
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just as the suspects
were leaving
the residence.
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OK. I don't know how far
we should go back, but--
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I'm a very
detective-like person.
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I like to know details,
and until I know the details
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around things, it's hard
to figure things out.
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I would like to know why my
sister and Steven Hayes
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weren't stopped at the bank,
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why she wasn't held at the bank.
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♪
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There were some police officers
that, off the record,
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said to people in the town
that they heard the girls
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screaming in the end.
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Did they try to enter?
Did they not try to enter?
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And why weren't there policemen
looking in the windows?
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My sister had no blinds
on her windows.
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I just want the facts.
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And nobody has told us
what really happened.
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MAN: And today,
a state prosecutor said
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he'll seek the death penalty
for Komisarjevsky and Hayes.
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Today, the state charged the men
with 6 counts each
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of capital felony murder.
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MAN: I was driving back from
the Adirondacks with my wife,
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coming through the Berkshires,
not a care in the world,
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and I get a cell phone call.
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Probably why I turned pale
was because,
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you know, I had
a sense as a lawyer
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where this was headed
right from the beginning.
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You know, capital case,
death penalty case,
high profile.
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And in my own head,
I knew right away
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that that case was
coming in to this office
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and that I'd be involved.
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[Siren wailing]
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Steven Hayes
and Mr. Komisarjevsky
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were coming into Meriden court
for arraignment.
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Right from
the first time that we met,
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Steven Hayes was
suicidal, depressed,
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just doesn't really understand
how this all happened.
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His record is lengthy.
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He's got all these burglaries.
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Most involve car burglaries,
and in this state, burglary
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includes the break-in of a car.
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And they were all daytime.
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He'd sit and watch.
People would park their cars.
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They'd go walking on a trail.
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Break into their car and take
a laptop or a radio or a phone.
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So you were not dealing
with someone who
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had the kind of classic
history of violence
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and all of a sudden
stepped into the big time
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in terms of
the next level of violence.
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You just didn't have it.
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There was no reason that anyone
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would ever look at that history
and think,
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"Well, this guy's gonna do
something really bad one day."
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♪
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GIRL: The first time that
I found out about my dad
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I was probably about
5 years old.
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He would, like, take me
to the movies
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and he really tried to be
that father figure to me, but
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for whatever reason, he just
couldn't stay out of trouble
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and so when he
went back to jail,
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like, he would write to me
and I would write back
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and that was our way
of communicating.
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♪
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"Dear Alicia, hello, honey,
and how are you doing?
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"I haven't heard from you
in a while
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"and neither has Grandma.
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"I want so bad
never to hurt you again
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"and I feel like I am
because I'm still here.
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"Every day, I wake up wondering
if today will be the day
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"that my name is called.
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"The stress is
almost unbearable...
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When I first found out
about the incident,
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I just came back
from the police academy.
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And my mind was just like--
I told him to call me
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if something was wrong.
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I needed to talk to him.
I needed to get answers
from him.
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What made him get together
with this one guy
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and do what they did?
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Whose idea was it?
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Was it just one
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or was it both or
did it just happen?
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It's just like,
there's no easy answer,
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and I might not like
the answer I get,
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but it's all--
it's all just "why?"
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♪
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WOMAN: The details
of 26-year-old
Joshua Komisarjevsky's past
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are more in-depth, and some say
even more disturbing.
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His rap sheet reveals a...
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MAN: We were right
in the kitchen here
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and we got a call
from my brother Ben,
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and he said, "I think
Josh has been involved
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in this home invasion."
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And I said to him,
I said, "Home invasion?
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This was a murder.
And Josh was involved?"
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So you see the name
spelled out,
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the Komisarjevsky name,
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and you sit there
and you hold your head
in your hands
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and you can't
believe it.
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And you want to cry.
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♪
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This young man's
a monster,
and that is not
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the way that we as
members of this
family behave.
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We spent all of our time
in Cheshire
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and we lived in a home
that was a home of arts
and letters.
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This is my aunt
Vera Komisarjevsky,
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one of
the foremost actresses
on the Russian stage,
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and there's a theater
in St. Petersburg
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that's named after her,
and this is my father
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Theodore Komisarjevsky,
theater director,
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architect,
costume designer.
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♪
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When we drove up
to Cheshire,
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my brother's house was
just swarmed with media
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knocking on the door,
trying to get statements
from them.
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I think it's hard
for anybody
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to be able to deal
with that kind of
a situation,
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but probably
more so for them
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because they
were individuals
who basically had
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withdrawn from many
aspects of public life.
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♪
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They ultimately posted
a notice on the outside
of their door,
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but that was it,
and from that time on,
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they've had
nothing to say.
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♪
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MAN: It was so disappointing,
because I knew
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I was the last person,
therapeutically,
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that met with Josh
and could really
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paint a picture of him
in a different light,
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00:21:22,333 --> 00:21:26,967
and I knew that the media
and most people's opinion of him
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would go against what I saw
and what I knew.
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Josh just wanted to do
better things with his life.
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00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:40,667
Staying clean,
reconnecting with his family,
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and possibly going forward
with an education
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to become an architect.
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♪
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I saw someone who created
some beautiful designs.
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These sketches.
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I mean, this kid was amazing.
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This is something
that's unnatural.
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This is pure talent.
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♪
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00:22:03,934 --> 00:22:07,400
He had to have practiced this
and worked on this for years.
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00:22:07,467 --> 00:22:12,033
♪
367
00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:17,667
But when we talk about the--
just the pure evil,
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00:22:17,734 --> 00:22:19,400
how am I gonna go in there
and tell them
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that this was a good kid,
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and that I was
really close to him,
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00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,867
after what he did?
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00:22:29,934 --> 00:22:32,500
Joshua was a little,
skinny, frail kid.
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I saw him behind the bars.
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00:22:34,867 --> 00:22:39,734
He had on his cream-colored
jail uniform.
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He was slight.
He was polite.
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He's adopted.
He went from regular school
special ed to home school.
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00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,767
This whole package
didn't make sense to me.
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Burglary, burglary, burglary,
burglary, and burglary.
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Genius that he is, and he is
a genius in some respects,
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with a photographic memory
and attention to detail that
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00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:09,467
no normal mind
could possibly retain,
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he told them every burglary
he did.
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00:23:11,900 --> 00:23:13,567
♪
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He knew every item he took,
passports,
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what dumpsters he threw it in.
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00:23:18,900 --> 00:23:21,066
♪
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00:23:21,133 --> 00:23:23,867
Joshua could get into
a third floor,
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00:23:23,934 --> 00:23:27,033
steal things, know which
denominations of bills he took
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00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:29,266
a year later or two years later.
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00:23:29,333 --> 00:23:30,700
Tell you where each wallet was,
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00:23:30,767 --> 00:23:32,600
what kind of pants
they were taken from,
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00:23:32,667 --> 00:23:34,767
where the pants were--on
the floor or on the bedpost,
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in the closet.
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Stay there for hours,
not get caught.
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00:23:38,567 --> 00:23:41,266
♪
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00:23:41,333 --> 00:23:44,867
Joshua used relatively
sophisticated equipment
for a burglar--
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00:23:44,934 --> 00:23:48,667
night vision goggles,
latex gloves.
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00:23:48,734 --> 00:23:52,533
After he robbed a house, he
would stay there, on occasion,
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00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,133
and listen to
the people breathing,
400
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,133
and go from room to room,
listening to
the occupants breathing,
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00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,033
for no apparent purpose.
402
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:05,433
That was the frightening
part of it.
403
00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:11,633
He'd rob state troopers' houses,
which takes some guts.
404
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:14,000
And I said, "Judge,
he needs to be watched.
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00:24:14,066 --> 00:24:16,367
"This kid is sick.
406
00:24:16,433 --> 00:24:17,633
"You're never gonna
see him again or he's gonna be
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00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:19,934
"the worst criminal
to pass through these doors,
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00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,200
because that's the kind
of a mind he's got."
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00:24:22,266 --> 00:24:30,934
♪
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00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,467
There's no obvious flag here.
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WOMAN: No obvious flag.
The new chairman of the Board
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of Pardons and Paroles says
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that the two suspects in the
brutal Cheshire home invasion
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and triple murder
were capable of doing
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what they allegedly did.
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There's no evidence that we've
seen yet that they were
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recently--failed any drug tests.
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00:24:51,567 --> 00:24:53,967
They were both employed.
They were both living
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in what appeared to be
stable households.
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00:24:57,266 --> 00:25:02,500
♪
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00:25:02,567 --> 00:25:07,200
MAN: Komisarjevsky was
arrested for 18 home invasions,
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00:25:07,266 --> 00:25:10,433
and the warning bells in there
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00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:14,100
should have been ringing
very loudly.
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00:25:14,166 --> 00:25:16,600
Under a 10-year-old law,
prosecutors are supposed to
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00:25:16,667 --> 00:25:20,533
order a transcript of
the sentencing proceeding
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00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,934
and send that along
to the parole board.
427
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000
I used to be a prosecutor.
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00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:29,033
I helped write this law
I'm talking about.
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00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:31,100
Because I knew that
it's at the sentencing
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00:25:31,166 --> 00:25:32,367
that you really find out
everything you need to know
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00:25:32,433 --> 00:25:35,533
about this offender
and the crime.
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00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,934
The problem is
none of this ever got
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00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,600
to the Department
of Corrections.
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00:25:38,667 --> 00:25:42,934
None of this ever got
to the parole board.
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00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,967
So from the point of view of
the Department of Corrections,
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00:25:45,033 --> 00:25:48,367
they got first time ever
incarcerated inmate.
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00:25:48,433 --> 00:25:53,934
Young, white, bright,
home schooled, remorseful,
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never identified as a person
with high mental health needs
439
00:25:57,300 --> 00:25:59,367
because he didn't come across
as that type of person.
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00:25:59,433 --> 00:26:03,100
He was a real manipulator.
441
00:26:03,166 --> 00:26:05,266
The typical sentence
for burglary
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00:26:05,333 --> 00:26:10,000
is a maximum of 10 years
in prison for each offense.
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00:26:10,066 --> 00:26:12,200
Komisarjevsky could have
still been locked up
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00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:14,667
for two lifetimes.
445
00:26:14,734 --> 00:26:18,467
It was possible.
It didn't happen.
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00:26:18,533 --> 00:26:23,000
♪
447
00:26:26,066 --> 00:26:32,967
[Rain, thunder]
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00:26:33,033 --> 00:26:36,467
WOMAN: I went to Bank of America
to open a new account
449
00:26:36,533 --> 00:26:41,300
and Mrs. Petit was
at the counter.
450
00:26:41,367 --> 00:26:46,200
All I saw was white blond hair
and a white piece of paper.
451
00:26:46,266 --> 00:26:48,834
The teller handing it
to the manager
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00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:54,233
and the manager really just
running right behind me
to her office.
453
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:58,300
And she just left.
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00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,033
It's very delicate.
455
00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:06,667
3 lives were taken
that should not have been.
456
00:27:06,734 --> 00:27:10,300
Things happened
in a manner that--
457
00:27:10,367 --> 00:27:12,600
and I'm not saying the police--
458
00:27:12,667 --> 00:27:15,633
because when you have
a hostage situation,
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00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:19,367
you wait until--
you have to assess,
460
00:27:19,433 --> 00:27:23,233
but she was screaming
for her life.
461
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:25,934
"He's in the basement."
Conscious.
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00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,433
Bound by the ankles.
Daughter loose upstairs.
463
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:34,367
Very strong girl.
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00:27:34,433 --> 00:27:37,700
How did it happen?
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00:27:37,767 --> 00:27:40,867
Cheshire Police.
No one is talking.
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00:27:40,934 --> 00:27:43,934
No one.
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00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,000
MAN: Lieutenant,
good morning, sir.
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00:27:45,066 --> 00:27:46,133
LIEUTENANT:
Good morning, Dan.
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First of all,
the Cheshire
Police Department
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00:27:49,133 --> 00:27:52,133
in their response
to this initial call
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00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,467
was absolutely
outstanding.
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00:27:54,533 --> 00:27:56,266
They did a stellar job.
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00:27:56,333 --> 00:27:59,100
The chief and all
those personnel
and Cheshire P.D.
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00:27:59,166 --> 00:28:01,467
deserve a lot of
praise and credit.
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00:28:06,033 --> 00:28:07,734
MAN: People are asking
about a timeline, you know,
476
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,867
when did this occur,
when did that occur?
477
00:28:09,934 --> 00:28:11,433
We don't detail
that information.
478
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:13,367
That's--that's--that's
not something
479
00:28:13,433 --> 00:28:16,300
that really the public
really needs to be
480
00:28:16,367 --> 00:28:18,033
concerned about at this
point in time
481
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:21,867
and it has more of an impact
on the case itself.
482
00:28:21,934 --> 00:28:25,200
You know, the type of injury,
the scene
483
00:28:25,266 --> 00:28:27,900
that one may try to envision
in their mind,
484
00:28:27,967 --> 00:28:29,133
we're not gonna detail that.
485
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,100
We're not gonna discuss,
you know, how someone died
486
00:28:33,166 --> 00:28:34,967
over and above manner and cause,
487
00:28:35,033 --> 00:28:36,600
which we'll give manner
and cause of death
488
00:28:36,667 --> 00:28:40,500
but we're not gonna get into
great graphic
detailed description.
489
00:28:40,567 --> 00:28:42,033
You know, we're not
gonna talk about assaults.
490
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:44,233
We're not gonna
talk about weapons.
491
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:57,000
MAN: Say what we don't know.
492
00:28:57,066 --> 00:28:58,767
What happened.
493
00:28:58,834 --> 00:29:00,066
And the next--
494
00:29:00,133 --> 00:29:02,100
the ensuing
half-hour.
495
00:29:02,166 --> 00:29:03,433
Yeah.
496
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:07,900
Between the time
Hayes and
Hawke-Petit
497
00:29:07,967 --> 00:29:10,800
returned home?
498
00:29:10,867 --> 00:29:14,000
Mm-hmm.
And the time--
499
00:29:14,066 --> 00:29:15,834
I don't want to say,
"The first
Cheshire police."
500
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:16,834
No.
They were arrested
501
00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:18,033
coming out of
the house?
502
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:19,533
Time they
were arrested.
503
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:25,800
Yeah. "That may
only be answered
at trial."
504
00:29:27,767 --> 00:29:29,834
MAN: If you can answer
some of the questions,
go ahead and do that.
505
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:31,567
Yup.
And then...
506
00:29:31,633 --> 00:29:33,467
MAN: There's
so little information
and there's so many
507
00:29:33,533 --> 00:29:36,333
rumors and innuendo circulating.
508
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,967
People are clamoring
to find out what happened.
509
00:29:40,033 --> 00:29:41,900
The "Day" possibly proposed
510
00:29:41,967 --> 00:29:44,133
that William Petit was
somehow involved.
511
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,767
Speculation.
512
00:29:45,834 --> 00:29:48,800
The sooner,
I think, we get all
the information,
513
00:29:48,867 --> 00:29:50,667
the sooner folks can
really start healing,
514
00:29:50,734 --> 00:29:51,967
because the unknown is
just as frightening
515
00:29:52,033 --> 00:29:53,367
as what happened, in a way.
516
00:29:53,433 --> 00:29:56,367
You have all these people
saying all this stuff, you know?
517
00:29:56,433 --> 00:30:00,800
Just tell us what happened,
and then we can deal with it.
518
00:30:00,867 --> 00:30:03,600
It's almost like
not knowing is--
519
00:30:03,667 --> 00:30:06,700
kind of keeps that wound
open, you know?
520
00:30:06,767 --> 00:30:07,867
I don't know.
It's gonna be a while
521
00:30:07,934 --> 00:30:10,000
till we see trial, so...
522
00:30:11,266 --> 00:30:15,467
♪
523
00:30:21,133 --> 00:30:22,800
THOMAS: It's starting to
pan out that the state's claim
524
00:30:22,867 --> 00:30:27,867
is pretty strong,
overwhelmingly strong.
525
00:30:27,934 --> 00:30:33,900
And that what's at stake
at this case is life or death.
526
00:30:37,333 --> 00:30:40,266
You have the gasoline
aspect of it.
527
00:30:40,333 --> 00:30:45,767
You know, the sexual assault.
Horrible crime scene photos.
528
00:30:45,834 --> 00:30:49,900
You have the right defendant.
You have the right perpetrator.
529
00:30:49,967 --> 00:30:53,834
What do we do?
Isn't this the case
that death is warranted?
530
00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:58,667
And, um...and I can't
accept that.
531
00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:04,767
Once you allow the death penalty
to go forward,
532
00:31:04,834 --> 00:31:06,633
then the next case comes along,
533
00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:07,867
and it's OK for the next case
534
00:31:07,934 --> 00:31:09,200
because that crime
was horrifying,
535
00:31:09,266 --> 00:31:10,967
and what if that's a mistake?
536
00:31:11,033 --> 00:31:13,333
What if that's an innocent guy?
537
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,633
And this notion of that,
if you execute somebody,
538
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,066
you know, you'll save money.
539
00:31:19,133 --> 00:31:22,133
You know, that's the furthest
thing from the truth.
540
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,600
You know, we have pretty much
a blank check.
541
00:31:25,667 --> 00:31:28,934
So I'm reminding everybody,
listen,
542
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,800
Steven Hayes is ready to plead
guilty to all of these charges
543
00:31:31,867 --> 00:31:34,834
and take a sentence of life
without the possibility--
544
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:36,633
at least it'll be over now.
545
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:38,633
You know?
There'd be--the case
would be done,
546
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:40,533
there wouldn't be any appeals,
547
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,367
we'd stop spending
all this money,
548
00:31:43,433 --> 00:31:45,800
we would not have
to traumatize everybody
549
00:31:45,867 --> 00:31:47,367
with the facts of this case.
550
00:31:47,433 --> 00:31:51,600
♪
551
00:32:16,433 --> 00:32:19,800
♪
552
00:32:19,867 --> 00:32:22,233
DONALD: As a United Methodist
minister,
553
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:26,900
I am a minister of
a church at large
554
00:32:26,967 --> 00:32:31,533
that is opposed to
capital punishment.
555
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:37,266
That has put me between
a rock and a hard place.
556
00:32:37,333 --> 00:32:44,900
We certainly don't
approve of torture
of people, but
557
00:32:44,967 --> 00:32:49,700
we feel that
there has to be
some justice in
558
00:32:49,767 --> 00:32:52,133
how people
are dealt with
559
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,967
when they are
so inhumane
560
00:32:54,033 --> 00:32:56,600
in their treatment
of others.
561
00:32:56,667 --> 00:33:03,133
♪
562
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:16,567
WILLIAM: You know,
it just makes me want to cry.
563
00:33:16,633 --> 00:33:18,767
Jennifer, Hayley, and Michaela,
564
00:33:18,834 --> 00:33:22,233
they were kind
and they were sweet.
565
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:23,500
They looked out
for other people,
566
00:33:23,567 --> 00:33:26,967
they cared about other people,
and spent their time
567
00:33:27,033 --> 00:33:31,300
helping people, so for them
to suffer, you know,
568
00:33:31,367 --> 00:33:37,200
horrific--horrific deaths
seems incredibly unjust.
569
00:33:37,266 --> 00:33:39,467
I mean, it would seem
incredibly unjust for anybody,
570
00:33:39,533 --> 00:33:41,367
but obviously they were
the 3 people
571
00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:43,300
that I knew and loved the best
in the world,
572
00:33:43,367 --> 00:33:49,066
and it just--the contra--
573
00:33:49,133 --> 00:33:53,166
contra--the opposition of the--
574
00:33:53,233 --> 00:33:56,667
just absolute evil
that attacked us
575
00:33:56,734 --> 00:33:58,800
versus the goodness
that they represented
576
00:33:58,867 --> 00:34:01,133
is--is just worlds apart.
577
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,767
♪
578
00:34:08,367 --> 00:34:10,767
[Sigh]
579
00:34:10,834 --> 00:34:12,433
A benign visit
to the grocery store
580
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,800
to get milk, bread,
toilet paper.
581
00:34:15,867 --> 00:34:18,333
Oh, and "People" magazine,
582
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,934
because a family
that my brother killed
583
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,033
is on the front cover.
584
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:24,600
And my brother's picture
is in it.
585
00:34:26,567 --> 00:34:30,433
He raped a woman.
He choked her to death.
586
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:33,300
He poured gasoline
on two little girls
587
00:34:33,367 --> 00:34:35,433
and he set them on fire.
588
00:34:37,433 --> 00:34:39,333
How does a person do that?
589
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,667
♪
590
00:34:42,734 --> 00:34:47,967
They paroled him in November
and he--he peed funny,
591
00:34:48,033 --> 00:34:49,333
and so they threw him back,
592
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,400
and they paroled him
5 months later.
593
00:34:52,467 --> 00:34:56,233
I--personally,
they're fucking stupid
594
00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:59,433
because they don't get it.
595
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:03,133
You don't care enough
about the people in your society
596
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,000
to put these type of people
back out on the street.
597
00:35:06,066 --> 00:35:09,000
And I want to say that--
it's really tough for me to say
598
00:35:09,066 --> 00:35:12,900
because one of those people
is my brother.
599
00:35:12,967 --> 00:35:16,166
Steven at birth
or soon thereafter.
600
00:35:16,233 --> 00:35:22,433
Steven around 3.
Steven around 5.
601
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:27,533
Matthew around one,
Matthew around 3.
602
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,600
Then we get into these.
603
00:35:31,667 --> 00:35:34,367
Steven, Matthew, Brian.
604
00:35:34,433 --> 00:35:36,800
Where I got
the blond hair,
I have no idea.
605
00:35:36,867 --> 00:35:38,066
Dad. That's where
you got it.
606
00:35:38,133 --> 00:35:41,700
You, Kathryn,
and--and Steven
607
00:35:41,767 --> 00:35:44,900
all had
the light hair.
608
00:35:44,967 --> 00:35:49,834
Who is Steve?
He's manipulating,
609
00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:53,100
he's deceptive,
610
00:35:53,166 --> 00:35:56,333
and he's my brother.
611
00:35:58,367 --> 00:36:00,266
God, look at that.
612
00:36:00,333 --> 00:36:02,633
And I remember that.
See, look at where
his hands are.
613
00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:05,834
I remember that day.
He was pinching me,
he was grabbing me.
614
00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:09,133
I mean, I'm about to
frickin' burst out
in tears here.
615
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,867
He's just laughing
his little ass off.
616
00:36:10,934 --> 00:36:14,633
Yeah.
Fuckin' noodge.
617
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:18,567
Deceiving.
Always. Manipulator.
618
00:36:18,633 --> 00:36:20,667
"Mom, it's not me,
it's Matt."
619
00:36:20,734 --> 00:36:24,667
Mom and her 3 boys.
620
00:36:24,734 --> 00:36:27,100
And that's probably
the first Christmas
621
00:36:27,166 --> 00:36:30,967
since 1979
622
00:36:31,033 --> 00:36:36,233
that all 3 of us
were in the same
room for Christmas.
623
00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:37,333
Only to go back
to jail again.
624
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,033
Mm-hmm.
625
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:41,333
You know, this is
the evolution of
626
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,967
Steven
in prison life.
627
00:36:44,033 --> 00:36:45,734
Monday, when I
saw it on the news,
628
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,266
all's I heard was
that there was
629
00:36:47,333 --> 00:36:48,767
the home invasion
and whatnot,
630
00:36:48,834 --> 00:36:51,934
and it seemed like
something Steve would do.
631
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,767
But if he'd never--
...smashing of
the police cars
632
00:36:54,834 --> 00:36:57,066
and the breaking
and entering
and stuff like that.
633
00:36:57,133 --> 00:36:59,233
But the killing,
the raping,
and the burning.
634
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:01,467
That could've
been Josh.
635
00:37:01,533 --> 00:37:03,400
I don't know who was
the mastermind.
636
00:37:03,467 --> 00:37:04,567
Well, obviously,
neither one of them,
637
00:37:04,633 --> 00:37:07,400
because they got caught,
and they did something--
638
00:37:07,467 --> 00:37:09,000
Well, being a mastermind
639
00:37:09,066 --> 00:37:10,667
doesn't mean that
you don't get caught.
640
00:37:10,734 --> 00:37:13,834
Honestly, you know,
it is, it is
641
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:16,734
the equivalent of
the perfect storm.
642
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,800
If he wasn't smoking
drugs, then, you know,
643
00:37:19,867 --> 00:37:23,200
I say flip the switch
and fuck the trial.
644
00:37:23,266 --> 00:37:25,000
Flip the switch.
645
00:37:25,066 --> 00:37:26,633
I hope it doesn't
even go that far.
646
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:28,900
As nasty as it sounds,
647
00:37:28,967 --> 00:37:30,900
I hope somebody puts
a bullet in his head.
648
00:37:30,967 --> 00:37:32,867
That's not gonna happen.
Outside the courtroom.
649
00:37:32,934 --> 00:37:34,300
He's in
solitary confinement.
650
00:37:34,367 --> 00:37:36,767
Yeah, well--
They will--they will
keep him away
651
00:37:36,834 --> 00:37:38,567
from every
God-living soul.
652
00:37:38,633 --> 00:37:39,800
When he's on his
way into the courtroom,
653
00:37:39,867 --> 00:37:41,266
he has to
get out somewhere.
654
00:37:41,333 --> 00:37:42,800
They're not gonna
risk his life,
655
00:37:42,867 --> 00:37:45,900
because the state
wants to kill him.
656
00:37:45,967 --> 00:37:47,400
They're not gonna
give that privilege up
657
00:37:47,467 --> 00:37:49,266
to anybody else.
658
00:37:49,333 --> 00:37:52,533
You know, I think
that it should be
the death penalty.
659
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,467
♪
660
00:38:02,533 --> 00:38:05,066
Aah! Ha ha!
661
00:38:21,967 --> 00:38:24,967
MAN: Both my daughters,
Clarice and Caroline,
662
00:38:25,033 --> 00:38:27,300
had a relationship with Joshua,
663
00:38:27,367 --> 00:38:31,800
and I believe that
he picked my daughters out
664
00:38:31,867 --> 00:38:36,834
due to the fact that they looked
like they're very young.
665
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:39,767
When Josh wanted
to marry Caroline,
666
00:38:39,834 --> 00:38:42,400
we had a phone conversation.
667
00:38:42,467 --> 00:38:46,333
I don't know if Josh was asking
for my blessing,
668
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,500
but in that phone conversation,
I said, "Joshua,
669
00:38:48,567 --> 00:38:51,266
"I have two major concerns.
670
00:38:51,333 --> 00:38:54,100
One is I think you're
a career criminal."
671
00:38:54,166 --> 00:38:56,066
And then the second thing
I shared with him
672
00:38:56,133 --> 00:38:58,133
is that's he's a pedophile.
673
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,066
And in both of those, he--
he never really
674
00:39:01,133 --> 00:39:03,800
changed his voice.
675
00:39:03,867 --> 00:39:08,233
All I remember him saying is,
"I'm sorry you feel that way."
676
00:39:11,066 --> 00:39:14,000
WOMAN: "Dear Caroline,
good evening, sweetheart.
677
00:39:14,066 --> 00:39:18,100
"When I wake every morning, the
sun is just starting to rise.
678
00:39:18,166 --> 00:39:20,100
"Its light dances
across your picture,
679
00:39:20,166 --> 00:39:23,433
"radiating your beautiful eyes
and pretty smile.
680
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:25,934
"It's the best part of the day.
681
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,033
"A calming mix of hope, beauty,
and tranquility.
682
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:33,266
"Take care, Caroline. Smile.
Someone's thinking of you.
683
00:39:33,333 --> 00:39:35,834
"Strength and honor,
sincerely, Joshua.
684
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:39,834
P.S.: Miss you."
685
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:43,300
We called Joshua
the hopeless romantic.
686
00:39:43,367 --> 00:39:48,266
That was the biggest side
I loved about him,
687
00:39:48,333 --> 00:39:52,100
because how many guys are
out there that are romantic?
688
00:39:52,166 --> 00:39:53,633
You know?
Not very many,
689
00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:56,400
and he was super romantic,
and that's the way I am.
690
00:39:56,467 --> 00:39:58,567
I'm super romantic.
691
00:39:58,633 --> 00:40:00,767
♪
692
00:40:00,834 --> 00:40:02,500
When I went to Cheshire,
693
00:40:02,567 --> 00:40:03,967
we would go around
the neighborhoods,
694
00:40:04,033 --> 00:40:06,166
the rich neighborhoods,
695
00:40:06,233 --> 00:40:07,633
and he'd look at
all these houses
696
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:09,800
and be like, "Man, you know,
I want to live in
697
00:40:09,867 --> 00:40:14,567
something that nice
and that gorgeous."
698
00:40:14,633 --> 00:40:15,967
He wanted to have a family.
699
00:40:16,033 --> 00:40:18,467
He was like, "I want a family.
You know, a good family.
700
00:40:18,533 --> 00:40:20,667
I don't want something
that's broken."
701
00:40:20,734 --> 00:40:25,900
♪
702
00:40:25,967 --> 00:40:29,567
"If I were home,
I would have sent flowers
703
00:40:29,633 --> 00:40:31,300
"and some sort of
creative surprise
704
00:40:31,367 --> 00:40:33,767
"with this little note
of admiration.
705
00:40:33,834 --> 00:40:37,166
"Actually, if I were home,
I would have shown up in person
706
00:40:37,233 --> 00:40:39,467
and, well, who knows."
707
00:40:39,533 --> 00:40:41,867
♪
708
00:40:41,934 --> 00:40:46,233
Me and Joshua did have a very
sexually active relationship
709
00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:48,800
and he did like to tie me up
710
00:40:48,867 --> 00:40:51,867
and, of course, you know,
I was the submissive one,
711
00:40:51,934 --> 00:40:53,900
and sometimes I was
the dominant one.
712
00:40:53,967 --> 00:40:56,100
But most of the time,
I was submissive.
713
00:40:56,166 --> 00:40:58,767
♪
714
00:40:58,834 --> 00:41:01,767
Joshua always asked me,
you know, "Is this too tight?"
715
00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:05,467
"Are you OK?"
Joshua always was concerned.
716
00:41:05,533 --> 00:41:08,367
♪
717
00:41:08,433 --> 00:41:09,867
Joshua was definitely
a soul mate
718
00:41:09,934 --> 00:41:13,800
and that's what
killed me the most.
719
00:41:21,834 --> 00:41:23,667
[Crickets chirping]
720
00:41:29,166 --> 00:41:32,367
I saw Steve and Josh together
every day, every day.
721
00:41:32,433 --> 00:41:35,333
They were always talking.
Because Steve was--
722
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,367
Steve was very, very versed
in recovery.
723
00:41:38,433 --> 00:41:42,633
Steve knew the N.A. book
back and front.
724
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:44,867
His nickname was "Mr. N.A."
725
00:41:44,934 --> 00:41:47,500
And I think Josh kind of
absorbed a lot of it
726
00:41:47,567 --> 00:41:50,700
and was able to get that
knowledge from Steve.
727
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,567
"For this addict,
drugs are not my main problem.
728
00:41:57,633 --> 00:41:59,567
"I am my main problem--
my self-destructive
729
00:41:59,633 --> 00:42:01,333
"attitude and behavior.
730
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,567
"What I like about getting high
is to escape my feelings.
731
00:42:04,633 --> 00:42:06,033
"I've self-medicated so much
732
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:09,033
I don't know how
to feel anymore."
733
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:13,500
This is his own words.
He's writing this.
734
00:42:13,567 --> 00:42:15,934
"Unresolved anger controls me.
735
00:42:16,033 --> 00:42:17,633
"It haunts me day and night,
736
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:20,300
"sometimes to the point
of obsession,
737
00:42:20,367 --> 00:42:24,100
even scary fantasy."
738
00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:25,867
MATTHEW: One of the comments
that Steven
739
00:42:25,934 --> 00:42:27,800
had shared with me was
740
00:42:27,867 --> 00:42:29,300
he didn't know
what was gonna happen
741
00:42:29,367 --> 00:42:30,900
but something big had to happen
742
00:42:30,967 --> 00:42:33,667
because he had to get away
from my mother's house.
743
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,066
BRIAN: May to July,
in a one-bedroom apartment,
744
00:42:41,133 --> 00:42:44,800
my mother in the bedroom,
Steven on the couch,
me on the floor.
745
00:42:44,867 --> 00:42:48,600
And I didn't ever
want to be home.
746
00:42:48,667 --> 00:42:51,667
I just didn't,
so I'd stay out until
747
00:42:51,734 --> 00:42:54,200
I had to come home
to go to sleep,
748
00:42:54,266 --> 00:42:57,700
because I couldn't stand to be
in the same room with him.
749
00:42:57,767 --> 00:43:02,000
And then I'd be lying,
making believe I'm
sleeping in the morning
750
00:43:02,066 --> 00:43:04,467
while he's having coffee
with my mom just
751
00:43:04,533 --> 00:43:07,033
running all of his bullshit
out of his mouth
752
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:08,767
about how he's gonna
take care of her
753
00:43:08,834 --> 00:43:11,600
and he's gonna be making
all this money.
754
00:43:11,667 --> 00:43:14,367
MATTHEW: He's going to reshift
and reshape my mother's life
755
00:43:14,433 --> 00:43:16,734
and get them a bigger place,
and, you know,
756
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,166
it's gonna be Steven
taking care of Mom and--
757
00:43:21,233 --> 00:43:23,700
on a scale from here to here,
758
00:43:23,767 --> 00:43:24,900
there was that much of me
759
00:43:24,967 --> 00:43:27,433
that actually believed
it was gonna happen.
760
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:30,800
We got into a very physical
confrontation one night
761
00:43:30,867 --> 00:43:35,266
and he broke 3 of my ribs
and gave me a black eye.
762
00:43:35,333 --> 00:43:39,834
And, you know, I probably should
have had him arrested then
763
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:42,166
because that would have been
violation of probation.
764
00:43:42,233 --> 00:43:45,233
Then he would've went to jail
and none of this
would've ever happened.
765
00:43:47,834 --> 00:43:49,900
MATTHEW: Things were
already falling apart.
766
00:43:49,967 --> 00:43:52,700
The lies that Steven had been
telling for the last two months
767
00:43:52,767 --> 00:43:54,333
were coming back.
768
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,367
My mother was
finding out about it.
769
00:43:56,433 --> 00:43:59,066
She was getting ready
to boot him out.
770
00:43:59,133 --> 00:44:00,467
"I don't care what
you have to do.
771
00:44:00,533 --> 00:44:03,467
"You need a halfway house.
I don't care.
772
00:44:03,533 --> 00:44:05,934
Get out of my house."
773
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,467
So that was Friday.
774
00:44:08,533 --> 00:44:10,200
I don't know the specifics
of what happened
775
00:44:10,266 --> 00:44:12,900
Saturday and/or Sunday,
but, you know,
776
00:44:12,967 --> 00:44:18,133
things were definitely
ramping up to something.
777
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,967
♪
778
00:44:21,033 --> 00:44:24,433
MAN: A day or two before
the crime occurs,
779
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:30,767
Steven saw that his life was
once again going downhill,
780
00:44:30,834 --> 00:44:35,000
and he says that he locks
himself in a hotel room
781
00:44:35,066 --> 00:44:38,333
with crack cocaine and heroin
782
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,967
and goes on this drug binge
783
00:44:42,033 --> 00:44:45,266
with a desire and hope
that he would kill himself.
784
00:44:45,333 --> 00:44:47,967
♪
785
00:44:48,033 --> 00:44:51,567
He leaves the hotel room
feeling like he's failed
786
00:44:51,633 --> 00:44:55,900
at this suicide attempt,
leaving him, in his view,
787
00:44:55,967 --> 00:44:58,066
more desperate.
788
00:44:58,133 --> 00:45:03,934
He shows up at an A.A. meeting
in Hartford and there's Joshua.
789
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,567
And Joshua started
talking to him about
790
00:45:06,633 --> 00:45:11,300
ways to make some real money.
791
00:45:11,367 --> 00:45:16,967
The last contact I had with him
before the crime, I think, was
792
00:45:17,033 --> 00:45:19,066
Sunday night?
793
00:45:19,133 --> 00:45:22,033
We said our usual good nights
and "I love you" and then
794
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:25,900
the next morning, I tried
to get ahold of Joshua.
795
00:45:25,967 --> 00:45:28,000
Me and my mom were
walking to the car
and I looked at my mom.
796
00:45:28,066 --> 00:45:30,333
I go, "Mom, something's wrong."
797
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,100
I was like, "Joshua's
not answering his phone.
798
00:45:32,166 --> 00:45:33,633
I think something happened."
799
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:36,400
I was like, "Something
definitely is wrong."
800
00:45:36,467 --> 00:45:40,567
♪
801
00:45:40,633 --> 00:45:44,367
Ms. Komisarjevsky
did call me on--
802
00:45:44,433 --> 00:45:48,633
I'm pretty sure it was Monday,
and she told me that
803
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:51,133
Joshua went out late that night
804
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,567
and he was wearing
dark clothing, like his hoodie.
805
00:45:55,633 --> 00:45:59,834
And Ms. Komisarjevsky told me
that he only does that
806
00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:04,500
when he's going out
to rob houses.
807
00:46:04,567 --> 00:46:06,800
[Tires screech]
808
00:46:06,867 --> 00:46:11,400
♪
809
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,734
[Chipping ice]
810
00:46:56,033 --> 00:47:01,667
The lights that the candles make
I think can help to radiate
811
00:47:01,734 --> 00:47:05,166
the--the love that's needed.
812
00:47:05,233 --> 00:47:08,633
♪
813
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:09,867
Well, they're gonna
ring the bells
814
00:47:09,934 --> 00:47:11,934
at the churches for 3 minutes,
815
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,233
one minute for each of
the Petit women.
816
00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:18,967
♪
817
00:47:19,033 --> 00:47:20,767
WOMAN ON TV: You'll remember
that last summer,
818
00:47:20,834 --> 00:47:23,834
at what police describe
as a random home invasion
819
00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:26,834
and, of course, the darkness
that happened on that day
820
00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:29,000
will never be forgotten,
but perhaps
821
00:47:29,066 --> 00:47:31,967
for the first time tonight,
there is a glimmer of hope
822
00:47:32,033 --> 00:47:35,367
that perhaps some good
could come from this evil.
823
00:47:35,433 --> 00:47:38,266
Now, the money raised here
will stay in Connecticut.
824
00:47:38,333 --> 00:47:39,767
It will go to the foundation
that was founded
825
00:47:39,834 --> 00:47:42,700
by Dr. Petit in the names
of his daughters--
826
00:47:42,767 --> 00:47:46,200
Michaela Miracle
and Hayley's Hope--and...
827
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,967
[Bell chiming]
828
00:48:06,834 --> 00:48:08,400
MAN: Good morning, everyone.
PEOPLE: Good morning.
829
00:48:08,467 --> 00:48:10,233
This is a hearing in--
a continued hearing
830
00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:11,800
in a matter of
a complaint brought by
831
00:48:11,867 --> 00:48:13,767
Colin Poitras
and the "Hartford Courant"
832
00:48:13,834 --> 00:48:16,166
against chief of fire
department, town of Cheshire...
833
00:48:16,233 --> 00:48:18,066
COLIN: We applied
through the town of Cheshire
834
00:48:18,133 --> 00:48:21,300
for more material right after
the crime took place.
835
00:48:21,367 --> 00:48:23,567
We finally got new
information yesterday.
836
00:48:23,633 --> 00:48:26,500
A complete transcript from
the time of the initial call
837
00:48:26,567 --> 00:48:29,467
from the bank official regarding
Mrs. Petit being at the bank
838
00:48:29,533 --> 00:48:30,967
saying she might be held hostage
839
00:48:31,033 --> 00:48:33,233
to the time the two suspects
were arrested
840
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:35,200
outside the Petit household.
841
00:48:35,266 --> 00:48:37,900
And our review of this document,
which is heavily edited
842
00:48:37,967 --> 00:48:41,934
to protect potential witnesses,
the town has told us,
843
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,834
raises the possibility
that officers on alert
844
00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:46,600
could have maybe
stopped this car
845
00:48:46,667 --> 00:48:47,867
with the suspect and Mrs. Petit
846
00:48:47,934 --> 00:48:50,500
as they were coming home
from the bank,
847
00:48:50,567 --> 00:48:52,200
perhaps could've beat them
back to the house,
848
00:48:52,266 --> 00:48:55,266
could've separated
the two suspects at that time
849
00:48:55,333 --> 00:48:59,600
and maybe things would've
had a different outcome.
850
00:48:59,667 --> 00:49:01,200
And what's still out there
is no one knows
851
00:49:01,266 --> 00:49:03,700
what the initial 911 call said,
852
00:49:03,767 --> 00:49:06,133
what the bank official said
to police when she called.
853
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,567
♪
854
00:49:09,633 --> 00:49:11,100
What were they told?
Was it clear?
855
00:49:11,166 --> 00:49:12,834
Did they know they have
a hostage crisis?
856
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:16,000
♪
857
00:49:16,066 --> 00:49:19,667
There's always more information
that is yearned for,
858
00:49:19,734 --> 00:49:25,300
either in a journalistic sense,
a due diligence reporting sense,
859
00:49:25,367 --> 00:49:28,033
and sadly, in a salacious sense.
860
00:49:29,734 --> 00:49:32,200
So it is hard to say, "No,
861
00:49:32,266 --> 00:49:34,767
I don't have anything
to tell you right now,"
862
00:49:34,834 --> 00:49:37,567
over and over again.
863
00:49:37,633 --> 00:49:42,900
♪
864
00:49:45,433 --> 00:49:47,934
MAN: Upon arrival
at the victims' residence,
865
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,967
the first officer observed
the private residence
866
00:49:51,033 --> 00:49:53,166
fully engulfed in flame.
867
00:49:53,233 --> 00:49:54,500
SECOND MAN: Yeah, it worked out
868
00:49:54,567 --> 00:49:56,500
so officers arrived on scene
869
00:49:56,567 --> 00:49:59,200
just as the suspects
were leaving the residence.
870
00:49:59,266 --> 00:50:02,333
♪
871
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,533
I get really tired of
the stories that say,
872
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,400
"Oh, by the time
the police showed up,
873
00:50:06,467 --> 00:50:07,967
the house was
already in flames,"
874
00:50:08,033 --> 00:50:10,300
and that's not true at all.
875
00:50:10,367 --> 00:50:13,200
♪
876
00:50:13,266 --> 00:50:14,834
When Billy came
out of the house,
877
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:18,400
he was pretty sure that
he saw men in the woods
hiding behind trees,
878
00:50:18,467 --> 00:50:22,333
and we think those were
all the police officers,
879
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,967
and he was calling out
to a neighbor
880
00:50:25,033 --> 00:50:30,867
while hopping across the yard,
tied and badly beaten.
881
00:50:30,934 --> 00:50:33,667
That should have raised
the police eyebrows to say,
882
00:50:33,734 --> 00:50:35,467
"What are they doing in there?
883
00:50:35,533 --> 00:50:39,200
We need to get in there
and find out."
884
00:50:39,266 --> 00:50:42,367
MARYBELLE: That's why I wrote
letters to the police.
885
00:50:42,433 --> 00:50:46,133
I felt like, and I expressed
in my letter that--
886
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,400
that their--their goal
was to catch the men,
887
00:50:50,467 --> 00:50:55,367
whoever were guilty, and above
and beyond the saving of lives,
888
00:50:55,433 --> 00:50:59,734
and I felt their priorities
were very much askew.
889
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,333
Why didn't they just
have a bullhorn
890
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,233
or something saying,
you know,
891
00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:06,300
"This house is surrounded.
892
00:51:06,367 --> 00:51:10,734
"You're not going to get
out of this alive,
893
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,767
so come on out"?
894
00:51:12,834 --> 00:51:15,867
Why didn't you just
go to the door
895
00:51:15,934 --> 00:51:17,633
and break a window
or something
896
00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:19,834
and go into
that house?
897
00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:24,633
You know, my--my whole
inner person said,
898
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:26,367
"These were
precious people.
899
00:51:26,433 --> 00:51:29,333
Why didn't you
enter the house?"
900
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,233
♪
901
00:51:32,300 --> 00:51:34,767
CYNTHIA: We've asked
a lot of questions,
902
00:51:34,834 --> 00:51:37,033
written a lot of letters.
903
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,100
But they have not sat with me
904
00:51:43,166 --> 00:51:45,300
and they have not
sat with my parents
905
00:51:45,367 --> 00:51:48,333
to tell us what happened
and what unfolded
906
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,767
and why and how.
907
00:51:51,834 --> 00:51:56,967
I believe that truly they think
they did something wrong.
908
00:51:57,033 --> 00:51:59,734
I've heard all kinds of things--
that it was a small town
909
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,967
and they hadn't had
the experience in the past.
910
00:52:05,033 --> 00:52:08,333
I think they were afraid.
911
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,233
MAN: I just can't say
enough good things
912
00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:14,333
about how proud I am of
the extraordinary effort
913
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,533
of our police officers
and our firefighters.
914
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:18,967
They're extremely well trained,
915
00:52:19,033 --> 00:52:20,500
they're a great group
of professionals,
916
00:52:20,567 --> 00:52:24,934
and I think today exemplified
the finest of what
917
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,500
the police and fire are
all about in this community.
918
00:52:27,567 --> 00:52:29,033
And I can't thank them
enough because
919
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:33,166
without their great work,
this could've been
a far worse tragedy.
920
00:52:33,233 --> 00:52:35,200
We were very, very fortunate...
921
00:52:35,266 --> 00:52:38,500
I was just literally shocked
when I heard him say that
922
00:52:38,567 --> 00:52:42,734
and that there were no further
casualties or something,
923
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,300
and I thought, you know,
how bad does it have to be?
924
00:52:46,367 --> 00:52:48,900
I mean, I thought it was awful,
925
00:52:48,967 --> 00:52:50,266
and he was commending them
926
00:52:50,333 --> 00:52:52,200
on what a great job
they had done
927
00:52:52,266 --> 00:52:58,567
and I--I was sorry, but I didn't
feel they did a great job.
928
00:52:58,633 --> 00:53:02,533
I mean, if they had done a great
job, nobody would have died.
929
00:53:11,734 --> 00:53:13,166
THOMAS: As you look
through this dispatch,
930
00:53:13,233 --> 00:53:15,133
you can't help but
walk away thinking,
931
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,567
you know, that there's another
tragedy within the tragedy
932
00:53:18,633 --> 00:53:21,667
that occurred to
the Petit family here.
933
00:53:21,734 --> 00:53:27,533
9:21:28--initial call comes in
to the police department 911.
934
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,834
And this is the call
that was actually from
935
00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:33,633
the bank manager.
936
00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:35,700
MARY: I will watch and see
what kind of car
she gets in.
937
00:53:35,767 --> 00:53:39,166
I'm in my office with the
door--with the lights off.
938
00:53:39,233 --> 00:53:41,233
My teller said that
she saw the driver.
939
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:46,400
He had a black hood over--
a hoodie and a baseball
cap on.
940
00:53:46,467 --> 00:53:47,400
DISPATCHER: I'm gonna
keep you on hold for
941
00:53:47,467 --> 00:53:48,400
another couple minutes,
all right?
942
00:53:48,467 --> 00:53:49,900
OK.
[Beep beep click]
943
00:53:49,967 --> 00:53:54,900
♪
944
00:53:54,967 --> 00:53:58,333
THOMAS: Some police officers
were actually at the scene
945
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,533
within seconds or minutes
of when
946
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:07,300
Steven Hayes and Jennifer Petit
get back to the house.
947
00:54:07,367 --> 00:54:11,567
They had the phone number
of the house early on.
948
00:54:11,633 --> 00:54:16,967
Nobody made a call.
Nobody knocked on the door.
949
00:54:17,033 --> 00:54:23,934
9:56. Two suspects
are moving into Chrysler.
950
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:30,133
9:57. There is a fire
also at the scene.
951
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,934
Initial call comes in at 9:21.
952
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,500
This is over
a half an hour later.
953
00:54:38,567 --> 00:54:41,467
They were actually at the scene
for 30 minutes.
954
00:54:41,533 --> 00:54:43,467
[Siren wailing]
955
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:52,533
The strangulation of
Jennifer Petit occurred.
956
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,467
The rape of Jennifer
Petit occurred.
957
00:54:56,533 --> 00:55:01,867
The pouring of gasoline occurred
throughout the house
958
00:55:01,934 --> 00:55:06,633
and the actual setting on fire
of the house.
959
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:09,667
All of this is taking place
960
00:55:09,734 --> 00:55:13,033
while the police are
watching the house
961
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:14,667
setting up their perimeter.
962
00:55:14,734 --> 00:55:16,333
It's really outrageous.
963
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,266
♪
964
00:55:25,834 --> 00:55:30,333
[Geese honking]
965
00:55:36,233 --> 00:55:38,066
WOMAN: Filling in for Ed Flynn
today on "Talk of the Town."
966
00:55:38,133 --> 00:55:39,367
We're gonna take
a quick break,
967
00:55:39,433 --> 00:55:41,266
and when we come back
we're going to be joined
968
00:55:41,333 --> 00:55:43,667
by Dr. William Petit
from the Petit
Family Foundation,
969
00:55:43,734 --> 00:55:44,800
so stay with us.
970
00:55:44,867 --> 00:55:46,900
Yeah. 1984.
971
00:55:46,967 --> 00:55:49,867
Our first guest.
972
00:55:49,934 --> 00:55:52,166
There's no audio
for me...
973
00:55:52,233 --> 00:55:54,133
MAN: We go directly
to you. On 9...
974
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:55,133
WOMAN: OK.
975
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,667
MAN: 8, 7...
976
00:55:56,734 --> 00:55:58,400
WOMAN: Dr. Petit
is here, and
977
00:55:58,467 --> 00:56:00,967
as many of you
recall, you know,
it wasn't that long ago
978
00:56:01,033 --> 00:56:02,600
that, you know,
you suffered a tragedy,
979
00:56:02,667 --> 00:56:04,166
losing your wife
and your two daughters
980
00:56:04,233 --> 00:56:05,734
in a home invasion.
981
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,300
Talk a little bit,
if you will, Dr. Petit,
982
00:56:07,367 --> 00:56:08,934
about the mission,
about the mission
983
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,600
of the Petit
Family Foundation.
984
00:56:10,667 --> 00:56:11,800
It's essentially
to help out
985
00:56:11,867 --> 00:56:14,467
people with
chronic illnesses,
986
00:56:14,533 --> 00:56:17,000
which was
a nod to Hayley,
987
00:56:17,066 --> 00:56:19,200
who was accepted
at Dartmouth and wanted
988
00:56:19,266 --> 00:56:22,033
to major in biology
and considered
989
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:24,433
medicine or
other careers.
990
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:28,066
And to help people
affected by violence
in their life,
991
00:56:28,133 --> 00:56:33,367
which there's obviously
far too much of,
992
00:56:33,433 --> 00:56:36,934
as evidenced by
the shootings in Oakland
993
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,900
and the shootings
in Pittsburgh.
994
00:56:38,967 --> 00:56:40,800
WOMAN:
There are a few things
that make me mad as hell,
995
00:56:40,867 --> 00:56:43,734
and one is when I heard
that the legislature
996
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,066
was even talking about,
even considering
997
00:56:47,133 --> 00:56:49,734
abolishing the death penalty
here in Connecticut.
998
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,200
And I'm beginning to wonder,
999
00:56:51,266 --> 00:56:54,000
do I have anything in common
with this state anymore?
1000
00:56:54,066 --> 00:56:55,266
I mean, what the heck?
1001
00:56:55,333 --> 00:56:56,734
One of the studies
that has been done,
1002
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,300
and it does get
brought up by people--
1003
00:56:58,367 --> 00:56:59,500
Study, study, study.
1004
00:56:59,567 --> 00:57:01,367
Well, this study
actually has some
1005
00:57:01,433 --> 00:57:02,967
very good statistics,
which are
1006
00:57:03,033 --> 00:57:06,133
most violent criminals
who commit the most
heinous of crimes
1007
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,333
don't see the death
penalty as a deterrent
1008
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,734
because their
sociopathic activities
1009
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,934
don't take into
account consequences.
1010
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,100
How do you feel
about that, Dr. Petit?
1011
00:57:15,166 --> 00:57:17,200
Death penalty's
clearly a deterrent, because
1012
00:57:17,266 --> 00:57:18,767
the person that
has committed
the violent crime
1013
00:57:18,834 --> 00:57:19,967
can no longer
commit it again,
1014
00:57:20,033 --> 00:57:22,367
so that person is
removed from society,
1015
00:57:22,433 --> 00:57:24,066
and I think they've
forfeited their right
1016
00:57:24,133 --> 00:57:27,767
to live in a civilized
society, and--
1017
00:57:27,834 --> 00:57:31,033
the taking of a life,
the opponents
like to say
1018
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:33,900
it's murder by
the government, but
1019
00:57:33,967 --> 00:57:38,633
that's a semantic
issue, because
1020
00:57:38,700 --> 00:57:40,600
murder is
the unlawful taking.
1021
00:57:40,667 --> 00:57:43,000
We have laws set down
for certain reasons,
1022
00:57:43,066 --> 00:57:45,133
and certainly the
defense attorneys spend
1023
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,133
lots of time
and lots of our money
1024
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,200
using the law
to their benefit,
1025
00:57:49,266 --> 00:57:51,734
and the law says that
for certain crimes,
1026
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,667
there's an ultimate
penalty, and society's
1027
00:57:54,734 --> 00:57:57,400
believed in that for
thousands of years.
1028
00:57:57,467 --> 00:57:58,900
And that fight will
continue, and I know
1029
00:57:58,967 --> 00:58:01,934
that is one of the
things you're gonna
fight passionately,
1030
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,266
to make sure
that those laws
stay in place,
1031
00:58:04,333 --> 00:58:08,734
and no better spokesman
than you, Dr. Petit,
1032
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,767
for why these laws
are here.
1033
00:58:11,834 --> 00:58:13,166
MAN: State lawmakers
are considering a bill
1034
00:58:13,233 --> 00:58:15,200
that would change
the death penalty law,
1035
00:58:15,266 --> 00:58:17,133
and Dr. William Petit
gave his opinion
1036
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,500
on the same day of a hearing
for one of the men...
1037
00:58:19,567 --> 00:58:20,700
WILLIAM: Death penalty opponents
1038
00:58:20,767 --> 00:58:22,800
speak of the inviolable
sanctity of life.
1039
00:58:22,867 --> 00:58:26,767
They love slogans such as
"Do not kill in our name"
and the like.
1040
00:58:26,834 --> 00:58:28,633
Thus, I assume that
death penalty opponents
1041
00:58:28,700 --> 00:58:31,834
value the lives of murderers
more than their victims.
1042
00:58:31,900 --> 00:58:34,200
Specifically, to me,
as a victim...
1043
00:58:34,266 --> 00:58:36,233
MIKE: You know, if you're
for the death penalty,
1044
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:38,934
this is the poster child,
no question about it.
1045
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,667
If you're against the death
penalty, like I am,
1046
00:58:40,734 --> 00:58:43,767
this guy is the poster child
for the death penalty.
1047
00:58:43,834 --> 00:58:46,333
I mean, him and Saddam
Hussein, right?
1048
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,400
Kind of hard to argue the case.
1049
00:58:49,467 --> 00:58:54,734
But it's not a philosophical
debate anymore.
1050
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,734
This is reality.
1051
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,567
And the ordeal you have
to go through,
1052
00:59:00,633 --> 00:59:04,100
once it's a death penalty case,
is considerable.
1053
00:59:04,166 --> 00:59:07,266
♪
1054
00:59:07,333 --> 00:59:10,533
MAN: It's a guaranteed
multiple-years ordeal
1055
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,567
in terms of just the trial,
and after the conviction,
1056
00:59:14,633 --> 00:59:18,100
scores of years of appeals
and frustration.
1057
00:59:18,166 --> 00:59:20,867
And all this time, the focus
is on the murderers.
1058
00:59:20,934 --> 00:59:24,033
They become mini-celebrities.
1059
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:27,967
MIKE: You have
to go into gruesome detail
about what happened,
1060
00:59:28,033 --> 00:59:31,533
because the prosecutors
must prove that
1061
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,400
the aggravating factors
outweigh the mitigating factors,
1062
00:59:34,467 --> 00:59:37,400
and the aggravating factor
is unusually cruel and heinous.
1063
00:59:37,467 --> 00:59:38,900
In other words,
you have to prove that
1064
00:59:38,967 --> 00:59:41,033
compared to other
triple murders,
1065
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:44,500
this one is much worse.
1066
00:59:44,567 --> 00:59:47,133
Once this gets under way,
people are not gonna like
what they see,
1067
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,834
and it's just starting
to get under way now.
1068
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:54,467
And so I guess I'd say
to Dr. Petit, you know,
1069
00:59:54,533 --> 00:59:57,734
I don't know who's
giving you advice, but
1070
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,000
I think if anyone's
implying to you that
1071
01:00:00,066 --> 01:00:01,533
there's a realistic hope
that these guys
1072
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,567
would ever actually be executed,
I think they're misleading you.
1073
01:00:07,567 --> 01:00:11,433
MAN: The one and only
time we had an execution
here, in my lifetime,
1074
01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:13,900
in Connecticut, was this guy
Michael Ross,
1075
01:00:13,967 --> 01:00:17,367
and that was after 25 years of
drama to get to that point,
1076
01:00:17,433 --> 01:00:20,333
and the guy asked
to be executed.
1077
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,900
The reality is that you'll feel
1078
01:00:21,967 --> 01:00:24,600
like you're making progress
every day,
1079
01:00:24,667 --> 01:00:26,734
but it's gonna go on forever.
1080
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:44,333
♪
1081
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,333
[Machinery beeps, whirs]
1082
01:00:57,667 --> 01:01:02,166
DONALD: It'll probably be two
years before they even start
1083
01:01:02,233 --> 01:01:04,533
selecting of the jury.
1084
01:01:09,700 --> 01:01:11,700
I'm getting pretty old.
1085
01:01:11,767 --> 01:01:15,767
I hope I live long enough
so that I can attend the trial.
1086
01:01:17,667 --> 01:01:20,000
I want to see
justice done.
1087
01:01:20,066 --> 01:01:23,600
[Keys clicking on keyboard]
1088
01:01:23,667 --> 01:01:25,467
MATTHEW: "Attention
Detective Fran Budwitz
1089
01:01:25,533 --> 01:01:27,834
"of the Connecticut
State Police.
1090
01:01:27,900 --> 01:01:30,500
"I give this statement
to aid and assist those
1091
01:01:30,567 --> 01:01:33,066
"who now have the burden
and huge responsibility
1092
01:01:33,133 --> 01:01:35,934
"of seeking justice.
1093
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,533
"My earliest memories of Steve
go back to age 4 or 5.
1094
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,767
"Steve presented himself as
the apple of everyone's eye.
1095
01:01:43,834 --> 01:01:47,667
"What many people did not see
was the brother I knew.
1096
01:01:47,734 --> 01:01:51,934
"Being young and naive,
I arrived home from school
in seventh grade.
1097
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,800
"Steven and his friends
were using the oven
1098
01:01:53,867 --> 01:01:55,900
"to dry out some marijuana.
1099
01:01:55,967 --> 01:01:57,900
"He turned on the burner
on the stove.
1100
01:01:57,967 --> 01:02:00,900
"He told me it was really cool
and put my hand over it.
1101
01:02:00,967 --> 01:02:03,767
It's cool.
You won't get hurt.
1102
01:02:03,834 --> 01:02:06,033
"As soon as I put
my hand over the burner,
1103
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:08,734
"he pushed my hand
onto the hot burner
1104
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,367
"and I had ring scars
that lasted for months.
1105
01:02:12,433 --> 01:02:14,800
"To say there hasn't
been a history of violence,
1106
01:02:14,867 --> 01:02:17,033
"well, this should--this should
serve to say
1107
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:19,900
"the predisposition was there.
1108
01:02:19,967 --> 01:02:22,934
"It was always there.
1109
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,633
"Within two months of moving,
Steve took my mother's car
1110
01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:27,967
"in the middle of the night.
1111
01:02:28,033 --> 01:02:30,100
"Upon calling the police,
the relationship
1112
01:02:30,166 --> 01:02:34,834
"with my mom, Steven, and the
law enforcement officials began.
1113
01:02:34,900 --> 01:02:37,233
"Steven is not sick.
1114
01:02:37,300 --> 01:02:41,166
"Steven is cunning
and calculating.
1115
01:02:41,233 --> 01:02:44,367
"Please exercise discretion.
1116
01:02:44,433 --> 01:02:46,000
"I will assist how I can.
1117
01:02:46,066 --> 01:02:48,233
"However, there is
enough to hang him
1118
01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:51,033
"without any family involvement.
1119
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:53,700
"Steven is alone.
He will answer to God,
1120
01:02:53,767 --> 01:02:56,066
"he will answer to the law,
and my prayer is
1121
01:02:56,133 --> 01:02:59,333
"he will answer to himself
before fate hands him
1122
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:00,867
his final sentence."
1123
01:03:00,934 --> 01:03:03,433
♪
1124
01:03:17,033 --> 01:03:18,633
I don't know.
1125
01:03:21,166 --> 01:03:24,266
I'd like to be there from
the beginning of each trial
1126
01:03:24,333 --> 01:03:28,266
through the end of each one.
1127
01:03:28,333 --> 01:03:32,433
If there are things to look at
that they had to endure,
1128
01:03:32,500 --> 01:03:35,033
I feel like it's
part of my life to know
1129
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:39,033
what they lived through
or died through,
1130
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:43,000
and I just feel like it's
not to punish ourselves,
1131
01:03:43,066 --> 01:03:46,700
it's just to know in the end
and have that finality of
1132
01:03:46,767 --> 01:03:48,800
"Oh, this is how it looked.
1133
01:03:48,867 --> 01:03:50,934
This is what they say they did."
1134
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,734
♪
1135
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,600
MAN AS KOMISARJEVSKY:
A thief in the night,
I've come to steal
1136
01:04:02,667 --> 01:04:06,200
not jewels and money
but your personal safety,
1137
01:04:06,266 --> 01:04:09,867
privacy, and security.
1138
01:04:09,934 --> 01:04:14,333
I violate your inner asylum
of intimacy.
1139
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:19,033
I piss on your optical illusion
of peace and innocence.
1140
01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:23,533
I feast on your animosity.
1141
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,900
The Petit family passed through
their fear
1142
01:04:25,967 --> 01:04:28,767
into the calm waters
of abject terror,
1143
01:04:28,834 --> 01:04:33,967
like mesmerized rabbits cornered
by a springing predator.
1144
01:04:34,033 --> 01:04:37,934
To see that fear, that
emotional pain I feel every day
1145
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,166
manifested on another's face
1146
01:04:40,233 --> 01:04:43,433
validates that this pain
in me is real.
1147
01:04:43,500 --> 01:04:47,500
♪
1148
01:04:47,567 --> 01:04:49,967
The shockwaves of
my self's hopelessness
1149
01:04:50,033 --> 01:04:53,133
reverberated its bitterness
through my rocked soul
1150
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:58,133
at the realization
that I crossed life's
bridge of depravity.
1151
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,400
The awakening of my shadow,
repressed within,
1152
01:05:01,467 --> 01:05:03,266
reaching its zenith that morning
1153
01:05:03,333 --> 01:05:06,333
with rapturous control
of Michaela.
1154
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,367
Her age was insignificant.
1155
01:05:09,433 --> 01:05:11,567
Come on, Shadow.
Come on, Rummy.
1156
01:05:11,633 --> 01:05:15,367
Inside. Let's go.
Let's go. Inside.
1157
01:05:15,433 --> 01:05:19,467
CAROLINE: On the phone, Joshua
denied raping the 11-year-old,
1158
01:05:19,533 --> 01:05:23,367
but I knew Joshua raped
that 11-year-old.
1159
01:05:23,433 --> 01:05:26,033
I just knew.
And he kept--
1160
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:27,867
Joshua kept telling me
that he didn't
1161
01:05:27,934 --> 01:05:30,200
and I didn't believe him.
1162
01:05:30,266 --> 01:05:31,533
I couldn't believe him.
1163
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,667
Because I was raped
in ninth grade,
1164
01:05:35,734 --> 01:05:37,266
and...
1165
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:55,400
Before I left, I told him
about it.
1166
01:05:55,467 --> 01:06:01,600
♪
1167
01:06:01,667 --> 01:06:05,100
I know he didn't know
Michaela at the time,
1168
01:06:05,166 --> 01:06:08,333
but I feel like maybe he was
thinking of a Michaela
1169
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,400
while he was doing
that stuff to me.
1170
01:06:11,467 --> 01:06:15,767
♪
1171
01:06:15,834 --> 01:06:18,066
Punishment that would be
good enough for him
1172
01:06:18,133 --> 01:06:22,600
would be having done to him
what he'd done to them.
1173
01:06:22,667 --> 01:06:26,834
♪
1174
01:06:44,533 --> 01:06:46,233
WOMAN: Roll cue
to video.
1175
01:06:46,300 --> 01:06:48,734
Sure. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
1176
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,967
There are two suspects,
but Steven Hayes
1177
01:06:51,033 --> 01:06:52,600
goes on trial first.
1178
01:06:52,667 --> 01:06:54,066
He is in court today,
but he looks
1179
01:06:54,133 --> 01:06:56,100
very different
from his mug shot.
1180
01:06:56,166 --> 01:06:59,400
He's lost weight,
he's in a regular
striped shirt and pants,
1181
01:06:59,467 --> 01:07:01,667
no handcuffs on him
in front of the jury.
1182
01:07:01,734 --> 01:07:04,667
And it is because
this case has gotten
so much publicity
1183
01:07:04,734 --> 01:07:07,767
that picking
an impartial jury
could be difficult.
1184
01:07:07,834 --> 01:07:09,000
MAN: Sunny, you were
inside the courtroom today.
1185
01:07:09,066 --> 01:07:12,667
What sort of state
did Komisarjevsky
appear to be in?
1186
01:07:12,734 --> 01:07:15,600
He's much heavier now.
He sort of has
a buzz cut.
1187
01:07:15,667 --> 01:07:18,266
MAN: Komisarjevsky is
dressed in a suit
1188
01:07:18,333 --> 01:07:19,667
and engaged in the process.
1189
01:07:19,734 --> 01:07:22,333
Now, if you're wondering how
long this is all going to last,
1190
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,200
we're talking about
several months.
1191
01:07:24,266 --> 01:07:28,233
This morning,
the judge told the...
1192
01:07:28,300 --> 01:07:29,734
WALTER: From the courthouse,
I don't think Cheshire's
1193
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,700
but about a 15-minute drive.
1194
01:07:32,767 --> 01:07:34,767
Everybody knew this case.
1195
01:07:34,834 --> 01:07:38,867
Terry Nichols, Timothy McVeigh,
the Oklahoma City bombing cases
1196
01:07:38,934 --> 01:07:40,867
were number 2 and 3.
1197
01:07:40,934 --> 01:07:42,934
Komisarjevsky was number one.
1198
01:07:44,867 --> 01:07:47,300
Talking to almost 2,000
prospective jurors,
1199
01:07:47,367 --> 01:07:50,700
everyone had made conclusions
based on the publicity,
1200
01:07:50,767 --> 01:07:53,200
and that conclusion
was very clear.
1201
01:07:53,266 --> 01:07:56,700
Joshua Komisarjevsky was guilty.
1202
01:07:56,767 --> 01:08:01,700
75% also expressed the opinion
that Joshua should die.
1203
01:08:01,767 --> 01:08:03,500
I've never had
a jury selection where
1204
01:08:03,567 --> 01:08:07,300
people would jump out of their
seats--"I'll kill him now."
1205
01:08:07,367 --> 01:08:09,900
It's in the news, Internet.
how could you miss it?
1206
01:08:09,967 --> 01:08:13,200
What did you think
when you saw him?
1207
01:08:13,266 --> 01:08:16,500
Um...I just think
he's a murderer.
1208
01:08:16,567 --> 01:08:19,066
[Siren wailing]
1209
01:08:19,133 --> 01:08:23,300
♪
1210
01:08:34,066 --> 01:08:38,266
"Frustrating day, but two more
jurors were selected.
1211
01:08:38,333 --> 01:08:42,400
"That came in at
8:13 this morning.
1212
01:08:42,467 --> 01:08:45,834
"Still need 4 more jurors,
6 alternates,
1213
01:08:45,900 --> 01:08:48,066
and two substitutes."
1214
01:08:53,333 --> 01:08:54,867
MATTHEW: So it's about
11:00 this morning
1215
01:08:54,934 --> 01:08:56,400
my time Pacific time,
1216
01:08:56,467 --> 01:09:00,000
and one of Steven's
attorney's called.
1217
01:09:00,066 --> 01:09:01,734
They went in to check on him
this morning
1218
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,367
and he was unresponsive.
1219
01:09:04,433 --> 01:09:08,667
Steven's lying in a coma induced
by, you know, a medical team.
1220
01:09:08,734 --> 01:09:11,133
They're not sharing why.
1221
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,734
You know, the attorney said
that he could very well die.
1222
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,867
And they're expected to be
back in court tomorrow.
1223
01:09:19,934 --> 01:09:22,400
They can't proceed
without him in the room.
1224
01:09:22,467 --> 01:09:27,300
♪
1225
01:09:27,367 --> 01:09:29,867
THOMAS: Steven squirreled away
1226
01:09:29,934 --> 01:09:36,633
9 or so doses of
Thorazine and Klonopin.
1227
01:09:36,700 --> 01:09:40,500
And you might question
how this could happen.
1228
01:09:40,567 --> 01:09:45,066
About a year before this, Steven
Hayes had made a suicide attempt
1229
01:09:45,133 --> 01:09:47,266
and one of the things
they found in his cell
1230
01:09:47,333 --> 01:09:49,300
was a suicide note.
1231
01:09:49,367 --> 01:09:53,800
I quote, "I am sorry.
All I want to do is die.
1232
01:09:53,867 --> 01:09:56,000
"It is the only way to end
the pain I go through
1233
01:09:56,066 --> 01:09:58,834
"every day 24/7,
and more important,
1234
01:09:58,900 --> 01:10:01,633
"the pain that trial
will bring to others.
1235
01:10:01,700 --> 01:10:05,100
"Time to go to the last
undiscovered country.
1236
01:10:05,166 --> 01:10:07,800
"Although I am not the monster
that Josh is,
1237
01:10:07,867 --> 01:10:09,900
"I am one nevertheless.
1238
01:10:09,967 --> 01:10:13,600
"A coward, because I could not
do what was right.
1239
01:10:13,667 --> 01:10:16,166
"Looking back on my life,
I was nothing but
1240
01:10:16,233 --> 01:10:20,333
"a self-centered asshole
who cared only of himself.
1241
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,300
"But the ironic facet to this is
1242
01:10:22,367 --> 01:10:25,433
"I have always had
the ability to change.
1243
01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:28,800
But cowards don't change.
They become me."
1244
01:10:28,867 --> 01:10:33,800
♪
1245
01:10:33,867 --> 01:10:37,300
WOMAN:
The judge actually toured
Hayes' cell yesterday.
1246
01:10:37,367 --> 01:10:41,133
It's called a safe cell,
which will protect him
1247
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:42,133
from harming himself.
1248
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:43,300
We learned a lot--
he also wears
1249
01:10:43,367 --> 01:10:46,300
something called
Ferguson clothing, which
1250
01:10:46,367 --> 01:10:48,967
an inmate wears if
they're in jeopardy of
killing themselves,
1251
01:10:49,033 --> 01:10:50,633
because they can't
tear up the clothes
1252
01:10:50,700 --> 01:10:52,600
and use it as a noose.
1253
01:10:59,467 --> 01:11:01,367
Good day.
Good morning.
1254
01:11:01,433 --> 01:11:03,433
SHELLY: How difficult,
Dr. Petit, is it
to sit in there
1255
01:11:03,500 --> 01:11:07,367
and have them discuss
Hayes' conditions
in prison
1256
01:11:07,433 --> 01:11:09,066
for two hours at a time?
1257
01:11:09,133 --> 01:11:11,166
The lights being on?
1258
01:11:11,233 --> 01:11:14,834
Uh, it's difficult.
Uh...
1259
01:11:14,900 --> 01:11:17,400
Somehow, it was OK
for the defendants
1260
01:11:17,467 --> 01:11:21,767
to bind us and beat us
and rape us and torture us
1261
01:11:21,834 --> 01:11:25,400
and set the place on fire,
but you can't be--
1262
01:11:25,467 --> 01:11:28,500
can't be held in a cell
with the lights on,
1263
01:11:28,567 --> 01:11:33,367
and somehow there's
something wrong
with that.
1264
01:11:33,433 --> 01:11:37,567
THOMAS: It's surreal.
The entire prosecution
1265
01:11:37,633 --> 01:11:40,900
is geared to killing
Steven Hayes,
1266
01:11:40,967 --> 01:11:44,834
and so here he is
trying to kill himself
1267
01:11:44,900 --> 01:11:46,433
but we won't let him do that,
1268
01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:49,333
because we want to extract
our pound of flesh.
1269
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:54,433
It's really a sick kind of
process, in my opinion.
1270
01:11:54,500 --> 01:11:58,100
♪
1271
01:12:09,667 --> 01:12:13,500
Tragedy in trial!
Front page!
1272
01:12:13,567 --> 01:12:17,667
Tragedy in trial!
Front page!
1273
01:12:17,734 --> 01:12:19,100
[Horn honking]
1274
01:12:19,166 --> 01:12:21,767
MAN: Right now, both sides
are inside this courtroom.
1275
01:12:21,834 --> 01:12:24,333
All eyes are on
what's going to happen
1276
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,567
in these opening arguments.
1277
01:12:26,633 --> 01:12:29,600
The heavy, heavy security
around Steven Hayes
1278
01:12:29,667 --> 01:12:32,900
brought in by authorities
on a convoy of vehicles...
1279
01:12:32,967 --> 01:12:34,533
SECOND MAN: There's no cameras
allowed in the courtroom,
1280
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,767
so you're not going to
see what's actually
going on in there,
1281
01:12:36,834 --> 01:12:38,600
but tweeting is allowed.
1282
01:12:38,667 --> 01:12:40,467
THIRD MAN: A juror
has been excused.
1283
01:12:40,533 --> 01:12:42,834
It's because she said
she couldn't be fair,
1284
01:12:42,900 --> 01:12:44,367
because she heard news reports
1285
01:12:44,433 --> 01:12:46,266
of Steven Hayes'
suicide attempt.
1286
01:12:46,333 --> 01:12:48,667
This jury will end up
making two decisions.
1287
01:12:48,734 --> 01:12:51,567
One will be
the guilt or innocence
of the defendant,
1288
01:12:51,633 --> 01:12:53,066
and if they
find him guilty,
1289
01:12:53,133 --> 01:12:55,100
then they would
have to decide
1290
01:12:55,166 --> 01:12:57,066
if he should get
the death penalty
1291
01:12:57,133 --> 01:12:58,800
for the crime.
1292
01:13:05,767 --> 01:13:07,867
CYNTHIA: Going into
the courtroom, Steven Hayes
1293
01:13:07,934 --> 01:13:11,200
was, like, off to my left.
1294
01:13:11,266 --> 01:13:13,800
I look at him and I think,
1295
01:13:13,867 --> 01:13:17,367
"I still can't believe
that you did this."
1296
01:13:17,433 --> 01:13:20,467
♪
1297
01:13:20,533 --> 01:13:23,967
I said as soon as I found out
that my sister died,
1298
01:13:24,033 --> 01:13:28,333
"Just come into me,
be a part of me."
1299
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,100
So I kept staring at him,
1300
01:13:31,166 --> 01:13:33,600
and sometimes I think,
"Is that a part of her
1301
01:13:33,667 --> 01:13:35,667
"saying, like, Stare at him.
1302
01:13:35,734 --> 01:13:37,066
Don't take your eyes
off of him.
1303
01:13:37,133 --> 01:13:39,100
Like, he--he can't be trusted."
1304
01:13:39,166 --> 01:13:42,934
♪
1305
01:13:45,266 --> 01:13:49,834
DONALD: I'd like to say a few
things to these guys.
1306
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,834
I'd like them
to answer me the question,
1307
01:13:56,900 --> 01:14:01,834
do they know what it is
to be terrorized?
1308
01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:07,333
WOMAN: After waiting
more than 3 years,
1309
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,867
the Petit and Hawke families are
ready for this process
1310
01:14:09,934 --> 01:14:11,467
to finally begin,
1311
01:14:11,533 --> 01:14:14,400
and are hopeful in the end
that justice will prevail,
1312
01:14:14,467 --> 01:14:21,166
and we think of Jennifer,
Hayley, and Michaela
every second of every day.
1313
01:14:21,233 --> 01:14:26,900
It is a system, you know,
and people say it's
1314
01:14:26,967 --> 01:14:28,734
the best system in the world,
1315
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,834
but it's a--it's a maddening
system at best.
1316
01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:35,667
People spend a lot of time
parsing words
1317
01:14:35,734 --> 01:14:39,266
instead of really
trying to get to
1318
01:14:39,333 --> 01:14:43,900
what is right and what is wrong,
what is good and what is evil.
1319
01:14:43,967 --> 01:14:46,767
But it's the system we have,
so we're hoping--
1320
01:14:46,834 --> 01:14:49,400
we're hoping that the system
we have will give us justice.
1321
01:14:49,467 --> 01:14:53,500
♪
1322
01:14:55,433 --> 01:15:01,100
MAN: Today's date
is July 23, 2007.
1323
01:15:01,166 --> 01:15:02,400
Statements taking place
1324
01:15:02,467 --> 01:15:05,800
at the Cheshire
Police Department headquarters.
1325
01:15:05,867 --> 01:15:10,000
Joshua Komisarjevsky,
do you know why you're here?
1326
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,767
OK. And you went to
Stop and Shop in Cheshire?
1327
01:15:49,333 --> 01:15:52,567
THOMAS: On the night of
July 22,
1328
01:15:52,633 --> 01:15:57,500
Josh and Steven were
texting each other.
1329
01:15:57,567 --> 01:16:02,633
Steven texting Josh about
"When are we gonna get going?"
1330
01:16:02,700 --> 01:16:05,000
It was kind of like
an excitement about
1331
01:16:05,066 --> 01:16:07,567
going to burglarize this house.
1332
01:16:07,633 --> 01:16:12,266
♪
1333
01:16:14,834 --> 01:16:17,667
He drives down to Cheshire.
1334
01:16:17,734 --> 01:16:21,900
He and Josh go to a bar.
1335
01:16:21,967 --> 01:16:25,400
And then they start
looking for this house
1336
01:16:25,467 --> 01:16:27,233
that Josh knows about
from when they were
1337
01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:29,800
shopping at
Stop and Shop earlier.
1338
01:16:31,567 --> 01:16:34,467
It's always been my opinion
that he was attracted by
1339
01:16:34,533 --> 01:16:38,533
the young girl Michaela
rather than the money
1340
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,133
or the Mercedes.
1341
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,367
♪
1342
01:16:47,266 --> 01:16:50,333
Josh was born into
a family with a history
of mental problems.
1343
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,800
Then he was adopted by a family
1344
01:16:51,867 --> 01:16:56,166
that had no ability to cope
with mental problems.
1345
01:16:56,233 --> 01:17:00,367
And so he was doomed by biology,
and then he was doomed by fate.
1346
01:17:02,066 --> 01:17:05,734
When Josh was 3 years old,
the family took into the home
1347
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,233
two foster children,
a girl and a boy.
1348
01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:13,333
And Josh underwent
really horrible and extensive
1349
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,834
sexual abuse
at the hand of Scott.
1350
01:17:15,900 --> 01:17:19,333
♪
1351
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,300
I think it started off playing
little sex games,
1352
01:17:22,367 --> 01:17:24,834
having him pose naked,
and then it proceeded
1353
01:17:24,900 --> 01:17:27,200
to full-scale anal intercourse
1354
01:17:27,266 --> 01:17:30,934
and to Josh's being burned
with cigarettes.
1355
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,233
Against the background
of all of this,
1356
01:17:33,300 --> 01:17:36,133
Josh is at a church
in which it is taught
1357
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,467
that there is evil in the world
1358
01:17:37,533 --> 01:17:40,033
and probably the greatest
abomination of all
1359
01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:43,400
is homosexuality.
1360
01:17:43,467 --> 01:17:44,934
And so you've got a what,
a 5-year-old,
1361
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,867
a 6-year-old, a 7-year-old
listening to this
1362
01:17:48,934 --> 01:17:51,533
and thinking to himself
that I am fundamentally evil,
1363
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,233
I have engaged in that
kind of activity,
1364
01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:56,633
and really not being able
to tell anybody about it.
1365
01:17:56,700 --> 01:18:00,367
♪
1366
01:18:00,433 --> 01:18:06,700
ERIC: There's a theme that I saw
in Steven's life of...
1367
01:18:06,767 --> 01:18:08,567
of betrayal.
1368
01:18:09,967 --> 01:18:13,600
Steven had been sexually
abused as a child,
1369
01:18:13,667 --> 01:18:18,800
which led him to become
more emotionally
1370
01:18:18,867 --> 01:18:21,900
disconnected from people.
1371
01:18:21,967 --> 01:18:24,867
The turning towards drugs
and the desperate state of mind
1372
01:18:24,934 --> 01:18:27,900
that he found himself in,
1373
01:18:27,967 --> 01:18:30,266
all of this helped explain
1374
01:18:30,333 --> 01:18:33,967
how Steven could've done
what he had done.
1375
01:18:34,033 --> 01:18:37,533
♪
1376
01:20:09,834 --> 01:20:11,633
MAN: KK. Obviously
she told you
1377
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:13,800
her nickname or whatever
is KK,
1378
01:20:13,867 --> 01:20:15,033
or you made that up?
1379
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,266
WOMAN: I met Josh when I was 13.
1380
01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:36,333
Josh's parents started attending
the church that we went to,
1381
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,400
the Evangelical Bible Church.
1382
01:20:40,467 --> 01:20:42,266
And we dated--we were
in a relationship
1383
01:20:42,333 --> 01:20:44,233
for about two years.
1384
01:20:44,300 --> 01:20:48,633
We started, um, dating
when I was 14 or 15
1385
01:20:48,700 --> 01:20:51,533
and then our relationship
was ended by the church.
1386
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,900
♪
1387
01:20:54,967 --> 01:20:56,834
Throughout the whole course
of our relationship,
1388
01:20:56,900 --> 01:20:59,300
we were always trying
to not have sex.
1389
01:20:59,367 --> 01:21:04,300
That was the goal.
It felt deeply, deeply sinful.
1390
01:21:04,367 --> 01:21:07,266
♪
1391
01:21:07,333 --> 01:21:11,834
Our church community was
our home school community,
1392
01:21:11,900 --> 01:21:14,233
and Josh's family
and mine as well
1393
01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:18,567
had a very specific idea
of good and evil.
1394
01:21:18,633 --> 01:21:21,867
♪
1395
01:21:21,934 --> 01:21:27,233
The devil was understood to be
an entity that you could know,
1396
01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:30,066
so if Josh had anxiety,
it was the devil.
1397
01:21:30,133 --> 01:21:32,967
If he did something wrong,
it was because he was being used
1398
01:21:33,033 --> 01:21:35,667
as a agent of the devil.
1399
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,166
Josh spoke some to me
about the sexual abuse
1400
01:21:42,233 --> 01:21:44,000
that had happened to him,
1401
01:21:44,066 --> 01:21:46,734
but there wasn't even
a way for him
1402
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,734
to tell me without weeping.
1403
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,533
Josh had terrible
anxiety attacks.
1404
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:59,400
His home was not
ever safe for him.
1405
01:21:59,467 --> 01:22:04,066
The safe place was being away
and hiding in the woods.
1406
01:22:04,133 --> 01:22:07,200
♪
1407
01:22:07,266 --> 01:22:10,834
He was trespassing
and sneaking around,
1408
01:22:10,900 --> 01:22:18,300
spying on people, long before
it was a criminal offense.
1409
01:22:18,367 --> 01:22:19,934
I think that he envied people
1410
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,834
and he would daydream
about being them.
1411
01:22:22,900 --> 01:22:25,467
♪
1412
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,734
ERIC: They find beer
in the refrigerator
1413
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,266
and drink throughout the night.
1414
01:22:36,333 --> 01:22:41,934
Steven finds jars
of quarters and coins.
1415
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,734
They found
a Bank of America book
1416
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:49,066
and they're waiting
for the morning.
1417
01:22:49,133 --> 01:22:52,633
However, Steven worries that
1418
01:22:52,700 --> 01:22:55,567
he's gonna leave DNA evidence
in the house,
1419
01:22:55,633 --> 01:23:00,667
and he starts...obsessing.
1420
01:23:00,734 --> 01:23:04,333
And Josh tells him,
"Fire destroys everything."
1421
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,567
THOMAS: "We'll get
the people out and
we'll burn the house down,
1422
01:23:07,633 --> 01:23:10,266
we'll get them somewhere,
and then we'll get
the hell out of here."
1423
01:23:10,333 --> 01:23:14,734
That's what Steven was
thinking about.
1424
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,533
ERIC: Steven goes
into the garage.
1425
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:20,133
He finds containers
and starts driving
1426
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,834
to find a gas station.
1427
01:23:21,900 --> 01:23:26,834
♪
1428
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,900
THOMAS: When Steven gets back
with the gasoline,
1429
01:23:33,967 --> 01:23:36,166
Josh had changed the clothes
of Michaela
1430
01:23:36,233 --> 01:23:38,967
because of activity that
he was involved with
1431
01:23:39,033 --> 01:23:41,834
in terms of
sexually abusing her.
1432
01:23:41,900 --> 01:23:48,567
And part of that occurred while
Steven was out on the gas run,
1433
01:23:48,633 --> 01:23:51,000
because we know that
because of Josh's photographs
1434
01:23:51,066 --> 01:23:54,967
that he took on his cell phone
before the bank.
1435
01:23:55,033 --> 01:23:57,834
♪
1436
01:24:00,166 --> 01:24:05,000
The first set of photographs
showed Michaela.
1437
01:24:05,066 --> 01:24:07,767
They were leg shots
and genital area shots,
1438
01:24:07,834 --> 01:24:10,700
but they were clothed.
1439
01:24:10,767 --> 01:24:12,533
The last shots while
they were at the bank
1440
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,266
were much more graphic.
1441
01:24:14,333 --> 01:24:16,633
Really awful, awful,
awful photographs.
1442
01:24:16,700 --> 01:24:19,300
Those are the kinds of things
you never forget.
1443
01:24:19,367 --> 01:24:24,066
They kind of become
emblazoned in your mind.
1444
01:24:24,133 --> 01:24:27,400
It just shows
the level of depravity
1445
01:24:27,467 --> 01:24:29,900
of Joshua Komisarjevsky.
1446
01:24:29,967 --> 01:24:35,233
♪
1447
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,533
Joshua was committed--against
the wishes of his parents,
1448
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:45,367
he was committed and spent, I
think, two weeks at Elmcrest.
1449
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,834
He was clearly
in terrible shape
1450
01:24:50,900 --> 01:24:52,700
and suicidal.
1451
01:24:54,734 --> 01:24:56,433
WALTER: The records are
very clear that Joshua
1452
01:24:56,500 --> 01:24:58,400
wanted to try the medication,
1453
01:24:58,467 --> 01:25:02,667
Joshua wanted the therapy,
but the parents rejected it.
1454
01:25:02,734 --> 01:25:04,433
Not only did the parents
reject it,
1455
01:25:04,500 --> 01:25:06,867
but they immediately took him up
1456
01:25:06,934 --> 01:25:09,400
to the Alton Bay
Christian Center.
1457
01:25:11,233 --> 01:25:13,133
FRAN: People would say
that he was seeing demons
1458
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:14,867
and he believed that.
1459
01:25:14,934 --> 01:25:16,567
and would pray that
they'd go away,
1460
01:25:16,633 --> 01:25:18,900
and people would gather around
him and pray over him
1461
01:25:18,967 --> 01:25:23,000
and lay hands on him and speak
in tongues over him.
1462
01:25:23,066 --> 01:25:26,433
Exorcism. That was kind of
a regular part of our lives
1463
01:25:26,500 --> 01:25:29,100
when it came to dealing
with anxiety.
1464
01:25:30,667 --> 01:25:34,533
He ended up breaking into my
room at the discipleship house
1465
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,567
to come and see me.
1466
01:25:36,633 --> 01:25:41,200
He was essentially
excommunicated for doing that.
1467
01:25:41,266 --> 01:25:46,433
His whole life, everything,
was just gone overnight.
1468
01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:50,266
There was no addressing that
perhaps this was a desperate kid
1469
01:25:50,333 --> 01:25:55,033
who actually didn't--wasn't
wrestling with the devil
1470
01:25:55,100 --> 01:25:58,700
but had experienced trauma
and was losing his grip.
1471
01:25:58,767 --> 01:26:04,000
♪
1472
01:26:05,433 --> 01:26:08,333
Some people called our
office asking if we would--
1473
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,467
we would take Josh on
in spite of
1474
01:26:10,533 --> 01:26:16,667
some of his legal difficulties
as a member of our tour.
1475
01:26:16,734 --> 01:26:20,200
I just gave Josh a little bit
of responsibility
1476
01:26:20,266 --> 01:26:23,200
and let him know that
I expected him to be a leader,
1477
01:26:23,266 --> 01:26:24,500
and he blossomed.
1478
01:26:24,567 --> 01:26:27,333
He just loved it.
1479
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:32,867
We came to the end of that tour
and it was a good tour.
1480
01:26:32,934 --> 01:26:34,333
I think it wasn't
long after that
1481
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,266
that Josh joined the Reserves.
1482
01:26:38,333 --> 01:26:43,033
Then he was discharged
1483
01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:45,600
and then that's when
1484
01:26:45,667 --> 01:26:47,533
his troubles started again.
1485
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:53,400
♪
1486
01:26:53,467 --> 01:26:57,367
[Thunder]
1487
01:26:57,433 --> 01:27:03,200
MAN: Morning rolls around.
They untie Mrs. Petit.
1488
01:27:03,266 --> 01:27:05,500
Steven takes her to the bank.
1489
01:27:08,166 --> 01:27:09,900
Mrs. Petit is in the bank.
1490
01:27:09,967 --> 01:27:12,900
It's taking longer
than he thought.
1491
01:27:12,967 --> 01:27:15,233
♪
1492
01:27:30,633 --> 01:27:32,467
MAN: You performed
oral sex on KK?
1493
01:27:32,533 --> 01:27:34,166
JOSHUA: On KK.
1494
01:27:39,233 --> 01:27:40,967
Did you take
pictures of her?
1495
01:27:51,934 --> 01:27:54,033
Now, you said you let
her get dressed again.
1496
01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:57,000
How--how is it
she came upon
being undressed?
1497
01:27:57,066 --> 01:27:59,767
Because you originally
said she was dressed.
1498
01:28:07,467 --> 01:28:09,667
MAN: No one disputes that
he committed this crime.
1499
01:28:09,734 --> 01:28:11,567
Eventually, he tells
the police officer
1500
01:28:11,633 --> 01:28:13,934
that while Hayes is gone,
he goes upstairs
1501
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,867
and sexually assaults KK.
1502
01:28:15,934 --> 01:28:18,200
At that point, the judge
stops the tape.
1503
01:28:18,266 --> 01:28:20,100
He says, "A juror
is having problems
1504
01:28:20,166 --> 01:28:22,200
with this testimony,
with this evidence,"
1505
01:28:22,266 --> 01:28:24,066
and that he's gonna stop it
for the day
1506
01:28:24,133 --> 01:28:25,834
and they will continue
again tomorrow.
1507
01:28:25,900 --> 01:28:29,567
A very difficult day
in court here, LaToya.
1508
01:28:29,633 --> 01:28:31,233
...start again?
1509
01:28:31,300 --> 01:28:34,100
We're good.
1510
01:28:34,166 --> 01:28:36,100
Thank you very much.
1511
01:28:41,300 --> 01:28:46,734
CYNTHIA: Komisarjevsky was
calling my youngest niece "KK."
1512
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,600
Like, you know, who are you
to be using that term
1513
01:28:49,667 --> 01:28:54,867
and calling her this, like,
term of endearment that we use?
1514
01:28:54,934 --> 01:28:57,166
OK, you show me that
baseball bat again
1515
01:28:57,233 --> 01:29:02,900
that you hit Billy with
and I'll show you how it feels.
1516
01:29:02,967 --> 01:29:04,767
You want them to lose
a daughter.
1517
01:29:04,834 --> 01:29:06,367
You want their house
to burn down.
1518
01:29:06,433 --> 01:29:09,333
You want them to see
how it feels.
1519
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,400
And--and other times, you think,
"Gosh, who am I?
1520
01:29:12,467 --> 01:29:16,433
Like, this is wicked.
How could I wish this
on anybody?"
1521
01:29:16,500 --> 01:29:21,200
♪
1522
01:29:28,567 --> 01:29:32,000
ERIC: Steven is
becoming anxious.
1523
01:29:32,066 --> 01:29:34,767
He calls Joshua.
1524
01:29:34,834 --> 01:29:37,000
Joshua tells him,
"Everything's gonna be fine.
1525
01:29:37,066 --> 01:29:40,367
The plan is gonna work."
1526
01:29:40,433 --> 01:29:42,300
After a period of time,
Mrs. Petit
1527
01:29:42,367 --> 01:29:45,734
comes out of the bank
with money.
1528
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,367
When they arrive
back at the house,
1529
01:29:48,433 --> 01:29:51,867
Steven is under the belief
that the crime is over.
1530
01:29:51,934 --> 01:29:54,400
Now they could leave.
1531
01:29:54,467 --> 01:29:59,700
But Joshua tells Steven
that, we have a problem.
1532
01:29:59,767 --> 01:30:01,934
He had left DNA with
one of the children
1533
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,166
and he had to kill them
and their dad,
1534
01:30:04,233 --> 01:30:06,934
and Dr. Petit had died
from the injuries,
1535
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,867
and that now he had to get
his hands dirty
1536
01:30:09,934 --> 01:30:14,333
and kill Mrs. Petit.
1537
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:18,600
THOMAS: I believe Steven, but
from the first time that Josh
1538
01:30:18,667 --> 01:30:21,467
talked to the police,
he tried to save himself
1539
01:30:21,533 --> 01:30:25,567
by blaming Steven for all the
horrific stuff that occurred.
1540
01:31:04,367 --> 01:31:08,700
ERIC: Steven tells me that
he felt betrayed by Josh,
1541
01:31:08,767 --> 01:31:16,100
that he felt dragged into
this horror of a crime,
1542
01:31:16,166 --> 01:31:22,567
and he also felt in a crazy way
betrayed by Mrs. Petit,
1543
01:31:22,633 --> 01:31:28,033
because he looks out the window
and he sees police cars,
1544
01:31:28,100 --> 01:31:32,233
and he realizes that
Mrs. Petit must have
1545
01:31:32,300 --> 01:31:35,633
informed bank officials.
1546
01:31:35,700 --> 01:31:42,100
He is triggered into
this state of rage.
1547
01:31:42,166 --> 01:31:46,066
He strangles
Jennifer Hawke-Petit,
1548
01:31:46,133 --> 01:31:50,400
he pulls down her pants,
pulls her legs up,
1549
01:31:50,467 --> 01:31:54,834
and he vaginally rapes her
after he strangles her.
1550
01:31:58,233 --> 01:31:59,867
MAN: Which is where
the dad was.
1551
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:25,433
ERIC: Steven hears Josh telling
him they have to leave.
1552
01:32:25,500 --> 01:32:28,233
Spread the gasoline
and let's get out of here.
1553
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,066
MAN: Why did you
close the doors?
1554
01:32:58,133 --> 01:33:00,300
You knew they were tied
but you closed the doors.
1555
01:33:15,233 --> 01:33:17,667
Empty bottles of--
1556
01:33:17,734 --> 01:33:19,834
Of gasoline,
so he went back up
with another bottle?
1557
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:31,934
OK.
1558
01:33:52,867 --> 01:33:57,133
♪
1559
01:34:07,166 --> 01:34:08,133
[Siren wailing]
1560
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:09,400
WOMAN: All of these
family members
1561
01:34:09,467 --> 01:34:10,633
that have had to relive
1562
01:34:10,700 --> 01:34:12,967
the horror of what happened
inside of that home
1563
01:34:13,033 --> 01:34:14,533
the night they were all tied up
1564
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:16,767
has been heartbreaking to watch
inside of the courtroom.
1565
01:34:16,834 --> 01:34:19,400
The images have been
absolutely devastating
1566
01:34:19,467 --> 01:34:20,500
of the crime scene...
1567
01:34:20,567 --> 01:34:22,900
MAN: When it's all put out
in front of you,
1568
01:34:22,967 --> 01:34:24,600
it's very gruesome.
1569
01:34:24,667 --> 01:34:26,533
It's--it's insane to just hear
1570
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,100
and it's just affected
the whole town
1571
01:34:28,166 --> 01:34:31,166
and it's like the whole town
is just reliving it all again,
1572
01:34:31,233 --> 01:34:34,600
and it's not easy for all of us.
1573
01:34:34,667 --> 01:34:38,934
♪
1574
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,233
CYNTHIA: These are pictures
of, like, the accelerant pattern
1575
01:34:43,300 --> 01:34:45,133
that they showed.
1576
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,400
They went from, I think where
Hayley's body was upstairs
1577
01:34:48,467 --> 01:34:50,333
into her bedroom
and onto her bed
1578
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,834
and then down the hall and into
Michaela's bedroom
1579
01:34:52,900 --> 01:34:56,200
and onto her bed.
1580
01:34:56,266 --> 01:35:00,066
And when they finally put
the fire detective on the stand,
1581
01:35:00,133 --> 01:35:06,100
I saw Michaela was tied and she
had gasoline dumped on her
1582
01:35:06,166 --> 01:35:09,433
while she was alive and alert,
1583
01:35:09,500 --> 01:35:12,233
and that at least
Hayley, I know,
1584
01:35:12,300 --> 01:35:15,900
was probably burning while
she was breathing.
1585
01:35:15,967 --> 01:35:18,166
And that was just a really hard
thing to learn,
1586
01:35:18,233 --> 01:35:21,367
because I never really knew
if the girls were alive
1587
01:35:21,433 --> 01:35:25,100
when they were burning or not,
1588
01:35:25,166 --> 01:35:29,033
and it kind of was
made true to us
1589
01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:31,200
that that was
the case with Hayley,
1590
01:35:31,266 --> 01:35:34,200
that she had walked
while she was on fire,
1591
01:35:34,266 --> 01:35:36,266
because she fell down
and the front of her
1592
01:35:36,333 --> 01:35:41,667
was more burned than
the back of her.
1593
01:35:41,734 --> 01:35:43,333
I was crying
and I just felt like
1594
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:46,400
I wanted to get out of
that courtroom and scream
1595
01:35:46,467 --> 01:35:48,100
and just say, you know,
1596
01:35:48,166 --> 01:35:50,567
"I can't believe what's
going on in there."
1597
01:35:50,633 --> 01:35:54,100
You know, I just--it's making me
so angry,
1598
01:35:54,166 --> 01:35:57,066
and I can't understand
why somebody couldn't have
1599
01:35:57,133 --> 01:36:00,033
ventilated that house for
the girls while they were
still alive,
1600
01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:04,867
and I just--I want it
to be so different.
1601
01:36:04,934 --> 01:36:06,900
WOMAN: We're finally
seeing the defense
1602
01:36:06,967 --> 01:36:10,400
giving tough questioning
to the Cheshire police officers
1603
01:36:10,467 --> 01:36:14,200
who initially responded to
the call of that home invasion.
1604
01:36:14,266 --> 01:36:16,300
The officers said
they followed protocol.
1605
01:36:16,367 --> 01:36:18,533
Dr. William Petit
has always supported
1606
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,166
the actions of the Cheshire
Police Department.
1607
01:36:21,233 --> 01:36:23,567
One captain testifying
that the incident
1608
01:36:23,633 --> 01:36:26,934
did not make sense at first,
and he said,
1609
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,433
"It still doesn't
make sense today."
1610
01:36:29,500 --> 01:36:34,166
♪
1611
01:36:51,300 --> 01:36:53,700
THOMAS: Steven admitted
to killing the mom.
1612
01:36:53,767 --> 01:36:55,333
He admitted to raping the mom.
1613
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:58,333
He admitted
to spreading gasoline,
1614
01:36:58,400 --> 01:36:59,767
I mean, so it's not like
1615
01:36:59,834 --> 01:37:04,400
he was trying to get himself
out from under in any way.
1616
01:37:04,467 --> 01:37:07,000
And yet Josh was
getting this story out
1617
01:37:07,066 --> 01:37:10,567
that Steven knew was false.
1618
01:37:10,633 --> 01:37:12,900
Joshua tried to minimize
the sexual assault,
1619
01:37:12,967 --> 01:37:14,333
not make it out to be a rape,
1620
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,433
that it was just contact
and ejaculation,
1621
01:37:17,500 --> 01:37:18,734
which is absurd given
1622
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,300
the scientific evidence
that exists.
1623
01:37:21,367 --> 01:37:26,000
He tried to blame Steven
solely for being the person
1624
01:37:26,066 --> 01:37:29,567
who initiated the gasoline
and lighting the gasoline
1625
01:37:29,633 --> 01:37:32,734
when there's gasoline
on both of their clothes.
1626
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:36,867
Josh Komisarjevsky was the one
who was suggesting
1627
01:37:36,934 --> 01:37:41,567
that they go into a house
where people were,
1628
01:37:41,633 --> 01:37:43,867
and for Steven,
this was a foolish thing,
1629
01:37:43,934 --> 01:37:47,333
because he was obviously
with a guy who
1630
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,166
was uncontrollable.
1631
01:37:50,233 --> 01:37:53,500
♪
1632
01:37:53,567 --> 01:37:57,867
And I think it haunts him,
really haunts him,
1633
01:37:57,934 --> 01:38:02,100
as to why he didn't walk away.
1634
01:38:02,166 --> 01:38:07,800
Steven's in an isolation cell
24 hours a day.
1635
01:38:07,867 --> 01:38:09,400
He has nightmares.
1636
01:38:09,467 --> 01:38:13,400
He has nightmares about
his own kid burning.
1637
01:38:13,467 --> 01:38:18,367
This is the way his
incarceration will last forever.
1638
01:38:18,433 --> 01:38:22,467
So you know, I don't know
why we have to kill
1639
01:38:22,533 --> 01:38:25,166
someone who's
in a position like that.
1640
01:38:25,233 --> 01:38:27,633
It's like being buried alive.
1641
01:38:31,734 --> 01:38:34,400
WALTER: We, the defense team,
always believed
1642
01:38:34,467 --> 01:38:39,500
that Joshua never had
the intention to kill anybody.
1643
01:38:39,567 --> 01:38:42,467
After he bashed Dr. Petit's head
several times,
1644
01:38:42,533 --> 01:38:45,000
later on, he got a towel.
1645
01:38:45,066 --> 01:38:47,867
He wiped the blood away
from Dr. Petit's head.
1646
01:38:47,934 --> 01:38:51,633
He then got two pillows,
put them behind his back,
1647
01:38:51,700 --> 01:38:54,600
and he got two cushions,
and his explanation,
1648
01:38:54,667 --> 01:38:56,867
which is in his confession,
was that he did so
1649
01:38:56,934 --> 01:38:59,900
because he thought Dr. Petit
wasn't comfortable enough,
1650
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,600
and he was concerned
about his comfort.
1651
01:39:04,967 --> 01:39:09,433
Why didn't he simply walk in
and undo the bindings?
1652
01:39:09,500 --> 01:39:11,166
Dr. Leo Shea,
a neuropsychologist,
1653
01:39:11,233 --> 01:39:14,367
testified that Joshua was unable
1654
01:39:14,433 --> 01:39:18,233
to make quick decisions
in stressful situations.
1655
01:39:19,834 --> 01:39:25,133
What occurred with Michaela
is absolutely unexplainable.
1656
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:30,700
Such a horrendous crime
committed on such a young girl.
1657
01:39:30,767 --> 01:39:33,533
People go to jail for a long
time for crimes like that,
1658
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:37,767
but you don't get
the death penalty.
1659
01:39:37,834 --> 01:39:41,633
When Joshua was apprehended,
when he was pulled from the car,
1660
01:39:41,700 --> 01:39:42,967
he was straight with the police.
1661
01:39:43,033 --> 01:39:44,300
When Steven Hayes was
pulled from the car,
1662
01:39:44,367 --> 01:39:46,233
he gave a phony name,
and when asked,
1663
01:39:46,300 --> 01:39:47,400
"Was there anybody
in the house?"
1664
01:39:47,467 --> 01:39:48,900
he said, "I don't know."
1665
01:39:48,967 --> 01:39:50,867
When Joshua was pulled
from the car,
1666
01:39:50,934 --> 01:39:54,233
he gave his name and he said,
"There's a woman inside,
1667
01:39:54,300 --> 01:39:56,867
I believe she's dead, and
upstairs there's two girls,"
1668
01:39:56,934 --> 01:39:58,000
and he expressed to the police
1669
01:39:58,066 --> 01:40:00,000
that there was some urgency
to the situation,
1670
01:40:00,066 --> 01:40:01,433
which was pretty obvious
because at that time,
1671
01:40:01,500 --> 01:40:03,533
the house was burning.
1672
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,033
To me, these are things
that are inconsistent
1673
01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:07,633
with intending to kill somebody.
1674
01:40:07,700 --> 01:40:12,433
[Crowd cheering,
horns honking]
1675
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:23,300
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
1676
01:40:23,367 --> 01:40:25,367
Everybody
came here safe,
1677
01:40:25,433 --> 01:40:28,400
you know, just
to support.
1678
01:40:28,467 --> 01:40:32,400
WILLIAM: You know, the teachers
after Michaela died said
1679
01:40:32,467 --> 01:40:34,333
whenever...
1680
01:40:40,934 --> 01:40:45,367
whenever someone in the class--
[Cheering and applause]
1681
01:40:45,433 --> 01:40:48,934
[Whistles]
1682
01:40:50,266 --> 01:40:53,834
She said, "Dr. Petit, I just
have to tell you that
1683
01:40:53,900 --> 01:40:57,266
"your daughter Michaela
was always the one to
1684
01:40:57,333 --> 01:40:59,000
go with the kid
who was excluded,"
1685
01:40:59,066 --> 01:41:01,333
and I thank you for
standing up for justice
1686
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:03,567
and what is morally
and ethically correct.
1687
01:41:03,633 --> 01:41:06,433
[Cheering and applause]
1688
01:41:16,333 --> 01:41:18,367
THOMAS: Dr. Petit is
pretty much out there
1689
01:41:18,433 --> 01:41:21,400
with his foundation, which is
obviously a really good thing
1690
01:41:21,467 --> 01:41:24,700
and should be supported,
1691
01:41:24,767 --> 01:41:27,900
but we're in the middle
of the state trying
1692
01:41:27,967 --> 01:41:31,166
to get the death penalty.
1693
01:41:31,233 --> 01:41:36,300
So as much as I have
incredible sympathy for him,
1694
01:41:36,367 --> 01:41:41,667
I think his outspokenness
in this case
1695
01:41:41,734 --> 01:41:45,867
has really affected any ability
to get a fair trial
1696
01:41:45,934 --> 01:41:48,367
for either of these
two defendants.
1697
01:41:48,433 --> 01:41:49,734
WOMAN: What happened,
what was said
1698
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:51,834
during that conversation
with Dr. Petit
1699
01:41:51,900 --> 01:41:54,800
that made you just
make a 180?
1700
01:41:54,867 --> 01:41:59,800
Dr. Petit came in
with his sister-in-law
Mrs. Chapman.
1701
01:41:59,867 --> 01:42:03,200
They said if
the legislature this year
1702
01:42:03,266 --> 01:42:06,700
votes to repeal
the death penalty,
1703
01:42:06,767 --> 01:42:09,233
it'll make it harder
for the jury
1704
01:42:09,300 --> 01:42:13,033
to make the decision
of the death penalty
1705
01:42:13,100 --> 01:42:17,667
for this monster,
this Komisarjevsky.
1706
01:42:17,734 --> 01:42:20,333
I can only imagine that
one-on-one conversation.
1707
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:22,567
You're sitting as close
as probably we are now.
1708
01:42:22,633 --> 01:42:27,000
You have no idea.
I could not bring myself
1709
01:42:27,066 --> 01:42:31,667
to cause this man
any more stress.
1710
01:42:31,734 --> 01:42:34,300
He's a monster.
He is a monster,
1711
01:42:34,367 --> 01:42:36,166
and I said,
"He's such a monster
1712
01:42:36,233 --> 01:42:38,100
"they should hang him
by his penis
1713
01:42:38,166 --> 01:42:40,800
out from a tree
in Main Street."
1714
01:42:40,867 --> 01:42:43,700
I can't think of
anything bad enough
1715
01:42:43,767 --> 01:42:45,467
that should happen
to that man.
1716
01:42:45,533 --> 01:42:50,734
♪
1717
01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:57,066
ALICIA: I actually got
to see Steve twice,
1718
01:42:57,133 --> 01:42:59,834
the past two Sundays.
1719
01:42:59,900 --> 01:43:01,900
When I first saw him,
I wanted to cry,
1720
01:43:01,967 --> 01:43:03,700
because I haven't seen him
in so long,
1721
01:43:03,767 --> 01:43:08,000
but I just didn't want to cry
under those circumstances.
1722
01:43:08,066 --> 01:43:11,533
You have all the guards
standing right on top of you.
1723
01:43:13,667 --> 01:43:16,266
And you can't talk
about the trial because,
1724
01:43:16,333 --> 01:43:19,166
like, you know that the phones
are pretty tapped.
1725
01:43:21,700 --> 01:43:25,233
I know that the family
wants him to be dead
1726
01:43:25,300 --> 01:43:27,333
and it all to be over with,
1727
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,100
but, like, my side
of the family,
1728
01:43:29,166 --> 01:43:31,433
we just want him to, like,
1729
01:43:31,500 --> 01:43:33,867
take responsibility
for what he did
1730
01:43:33,934 --> 01:43:37,567
without the consequence
of the death penalty.
1731
01:43:37,633 --> 01:43:40,734
That won't bring anyone back.
1732
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,233
What happened happened
and his death
1733
01:43:43,300 --> 01:43:46,934
isn't gonna bring about
much justice.
1734
01:43:51,433 --> 01:43:54,367
MAN: Steven Hayes walked into
room 6A.
1735
01:43:54,433 --> 01:43:56,100
For the first time,
he saw a familiar face.
1736
01:43:56,166 --> 01:43:57,700
It was his brother Matthew.
1737
01:43:57,767 --> 01:43:59,667
The first time that we believe
a Hayes family member
1738
01:43:59,734 --> 01:44:01,767
has been in court.
1739
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:24,567
♪
1740
01:44:24,633 --> 01:44:26,633
MAN: Prosecutor
Michael Dearington said,
1741
01:44:26,700 --> 01:44:29,300
"These two beautiful girls
and loving mother were killed
1742
01:44:29,367 --> 01:44:32,133
because Steven Hayes
wanted money."
1743
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:35,433
Defense attorney Thomas Ullmann
argued that life without parole
1744
01:44:35,500 --> 01:44:38,500
is the harshest punishment
Steven Hayes could be given.
1745
01:44:46,266 --> 01:44:47,867
MAN: State's attorney
Gary Nicholson
1746
01:44:47,934 --> 01:44:50,867
did not mince words as
he spoke to the jury
1747
01:44:50,934 --> 01:44:52,934
in his closing arguments
this morning,
1748
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,700
saying that Joshua
Komisarjevsky is, quote,
1749
01:44:55,767 --> 01:44:57,166
"No shrinking violet.
1750
01:44:57,233 --> 01:45:00,467
He played a starring role
in this crime."
1751
01:45:00,533 --> 01:45:02,300
Nicholson hammered the point
1752
01:45:02,367 --> 01:45:05,266
that Komisarjevsky
was first in the house,
1753
01:45:05,333 --> 01:45:08,166
the first to use violence,
and had plenty of opportunity
1754
01:45:08,233 --> 01:45:09,600
to leave the home.
1755
01:45:09,667 --> 01:45:11,667
He gave Steven Hayes directions
back to the house,
1756
01:45:11,734 --> 01:45:14,300
but Hayes went
and bought gasoline.
1757
01:45:14,367 --> 01:45:15,734
It's not fair,
is it?
1758
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:19,600
No.
No. No. Mm.
1759
01:45:29,333 --> 01:45:32,967
You know, all I think of is
the impact that our girls
1760
01:45:33,033 --> 01:45:36,433
could've made upon the world.
1761
01:45:36,500 --> 01:45:40,800
And, of course, none of that
will ever come forth from
1762
01:45:40,867 --> 01:45:44,033
Joshua Komisarjevsky.
1763
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:49,133
MAN: What's the jury weighing?
1764
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,066
Aggravating factors
against mitigating factors.
1765
01:45:52,133 --> 01:45:54,734
The aggravating factors brought
out by the prosecution--
1766
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,700
the heinous nature
of the crimes.
1767
01:45:56,767 --> 01:45:59,166
For the mitigating factors
that the defense presented,
1768
01:45:59,233 --> 01:46:00,667
they pointed to a very difficult
1769
01:46:00,734 --> 01:46:03,266
early childhood of
Joshua Komisarjevsky.
1770
01:46:03,333 --> 01:46:06,100
The defense said they
turned to prayer instead.
1771
01:46:06,166 --> 01:46:08,967
They also pointed to a series of
concussions when he was a boy,
1772
01:46:09,033 --> 01:46:11,533
drug use in his teenage
and early twenty years,
1773
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,367
all saying it mitigates
what happens.
1774
01:46:13,433 --> 01:46:16,166
It means he didn't really know
what was going on,
1775
01:46:16,233 --> 01:46:18,667
couldn't make a decision
to stop what was going on
1776
01:46:18,734 --> 01:46:20,700
that night in July of 2007,
1777
01:46:20,767 --> 01:46:23,333
and so his life
should be spared.
1778
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:24,433
No verdict today.
1779
01:46:24,500 --> 01:46:27,300
We do expect a verdict
by the end of the week.
1780
01:46:32,133 --> 01:46:35,233
WILLIAM: We're good.
You guys can reach, right?
1781
01:46:35,300 --> 01:46:37,667
DONALD: Oh, Lord, we gather
around this table
1782
01:46:37,734 --> 01:46:40,900
as family and friends.
1783
01:46:40,967 --> 01:46:44,867
We stand at a place
in the trial where
1784
01:46:44,934 --> 01:46:48,867
we wonder what
will take place.
1785
01:46:48,934 --> 01:46:51,033
But we pray, O God,
that we will be able
1786
01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:53,633
to be strong enough
1787
01:46:53,700 --> 01:46:57,767
to accept whatever
the outcome may be,
1788
01:46:57,834 --> 01:47:02,266
that it would
be your will
that would be done.
1789
01:47:02,333 --> 01:47:06,033
For we ask it
in the name of Christ.
Amen.
1790
01:47:06,100 --> 01:47:07,934
ALL: Amen.
1791
01:47:11,033 --> 01:47:14,367
This is all about death
or life without parole.
1792
01:47:14,433 --> 01:47:15,467
Really, it does
seem like
1793
01:47:15,533 --> 01:47:17,133
the most kind,
humane thing
1794
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:18,734
you could do
for a person
1795
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:23,900
is to allow them
to just die.
1796
01:47:23,967 --> 01:47:30,400
I thought of how much
that challenges
the jurors.
1797
01:47:30,467 --> 01:47:36,200
DONALD: A lot of pressure
has been placed upon
their shoulders.
1798
01:47:36,266 --> 01:47:39,967
I'm glad I'm not
in that room.
1799
01:47:40,033 --> 01:47:42,367
Yeah.
1800
01:47:42,433 --> 01:47:44,266
Never get
those pictures
1801
01:47:44,333 --> 01:47:48,033
out of their heads
for the rest of
their lives, you know?
1802
01:47:48,100 --> 01:47:53,200
It's been very traumatic
for everyone.
1803
01:47:53,266 --> 01:47:57,967
♪
1804
01:48:15,333 --> 01:48:18,867
WOMAN: This is a case that had
just rattled people,
1805
01:48:18,934 --> 01:48:21,266
and a lot of people say
that if there is a case
1806
01:48:21,333 --> 01:48:23,867
that warrants the death penalty,
this is it.
1807
01:48:23,934 --> 01:48:25,367
Wait a minute.
I want to read you something
1808
01:48:25,433 --> 01:48:28,000
that we're--we're getting
some word on,
1809
01:48:28,066 --> 01:48:29,400
and you might be able
to explain it to us.
1810
01:48:29,467 --> 01:48:32,967
The jurors are standing.
The clerk is reading
the verdict form.
1811
01:48:33,033 --> 01:48:35,734
Count 4,
no statutory mitigators.
1812
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,000
Both aggravators are proven.
1813
01:48:38,066 --> 01:48:43,200
OK. The defendant is sentenced
to death, Sunny.
1814
01:48:43,266 --> 01:48:44,967
MAN: The jury returns.
1815
01:48:45,033 --> 01:48:46,200
Death penalty verdict.
1816
01:48:46,266 --> 01:48:48,066
MAN: Death for the monster
who slaughtered
1817
01:48:48,133 --> 01:48:50,333
the Connecticut
doctor's family.
1818
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:53,133
Tonight, a Connecticut jury
has done something very rare.
1819
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:54,667
A Connecticut jury
has recommended death
1820
01:48:54,734 --> 01:48:55,834
for Steven Hayes.
1821
01:48:55,900 --> 01:48:57,700
He's convicted of raping
and murdering a mom,
1822
01:48:57,767 --> 01:49:02,266
Jennifer Hawke-Petit,
and her two daughters,
Hayley and Michaela.
1823
01:49:05,734 --> 01:49:08,166
THOMAS: The verdict
was devastating.
1824
01:49:09,967 --> 01:49:12,066
Steven wanted a death verdict
1825
01:49:12,133 --> 01:49:14,433
and knew we did
everything in our power
1826
01:49:14,500 --> 01:49:16,667
to prevent that from happening,
1827
01:49:16,734 --> 01:49:19,233
in spite of his own efforts
to kill himself.
1828
01:49:19,300 --> 01:49:23,667
♪
1829
01:49:33,700 --> 01:49:36,800
[Siren wailing]
1830
01:49:38,567 --> 01:49:40,500
MAN: This case gets
attention in Australia.
1831
01:49:40,567 --> 01:49:42,567
It got attention in Europe.
1832
01:49:42,633 --> 01:49:45,734
You know, this was any town,
America, any family America,
1833
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,200
and when you saw just how
that was shattered
1834
01:49:48,266 --> 01:49:51,266
in a few hours, I think
that's powerful...
1835
01:49:54,567 --> 01:49:56,934
Count 5 is death.
1836
01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:58,433
The second count, count 5
1837
01:49:58,500 --> 01:50:00,500
in the murder of Michaela Petit,
is death,
1838
01:50:00,567 --> 01:50:02,133
that he intentionally caused
the death of a person
1839
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:05,300
under 16 years old.
1840
01:50:05,367 --> 01:50:06,900
All right, count 10 is death.
1841
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:08,700
That's--he intentionally caused
1842
01:50:08,767 --> 01:50:13,500
the death of Jennifer
Hawke-Petit, the mother.
1843
01:50:13,567 --> 01:50:15,767
OK, count 11 is death.
1844
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:24,400
MAN: A couple of marshals
came up behind Joshua in cuffs
1845
01:50:24,467 --> 01:50:26,700
and really no reaction at all.
1846
01:50:26,767 --> 01:50:29,467
Given the public outrage
for these horrendous crimes,
1847
01:50:29,533 --> 01:50:31,100
that we just couldn't
get a fair jury here
1848
01:50:31,166 --> 01:50:32,567
and we still
feel that way,
1849
01:50:32,633 --> 01:50:34,900
and that's why we
had filed a motion
to change venue
1850
01:50:34,967 --> 01:50:36,600
and believe it
should have been--
1851
01:50:36,667 --> 01:50:37,834
should have been granted,
so that'll be
1852
01:50:37,900 --> 01:50:40,033
one of the main
appellate issues.
1853
01:50:40,100 --> 01:50:41,934
I believe the death
penalty is just barbaric
1854
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,033
and it puts us in line
with countries like
1855
01:50:44,100 --> 01:50:47,834
China, Yemen,
Iraq, Iran.
1856
01:50:47,900 --> 01:50:49,266
I don't know what other
purpose it serves
1857
01:50:49,333 --> 01:50:51,066
other than
simply revenge.
1858
01:50:51,133 --> 01:50:53,400
Walter Bansley III,
thank you very much.
1859
01:50:53,467 --> 01:50:54,600
Denise, of course, yeah,
1860
01:50:54,667 --> 01:50:56,166
we're gonna
have continuing
coverage here.
1861
01:50:56,233 --> 01:50:58,033
The death penalty
has been given
1862
01:50:58,100 --> 01:50:59,967
to Joshua Komisarjevsky.
1863
01:51:00,033 --> 01:51:05,667
♪
1864
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:13,633
We are satisfied that
the defendant has been judged
1865
01:51:13,700 --> 01:51:18,467
to be the murderer, the rapist,
and criminal that he is,
1866
01:51:18,533 --> 01:51:22,667
and now he's been condemned
to the ultimate penalty.
1867
01:51:22,734 --> 01:51:25,367
We certainly have been
criticized over the years
1868
01:51:25,433 --> 01:51:29,834
that this is vengeance
and blood lust, but
1869
01:51:29,900 --> 01:51:31,800
this is really about justice.
1870
01:51:31,867 --> 01:51:36,133
We want to go forward with
the Petit Family Foundation
1871
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:41,300
and try to continue to create
good out of evil and...
1872
01:51:41,367 --> 01:51:44,300
The defense did
what they thought
they should do.
1873
01:51:44,367 --> 01:51:47,667
I thought a lot of it was
particularly distasteful.
1874
01:51:47,734 --> 01:51:50,166
We saw picture
after picture
after picture,
1875
01:51:50,233 --> 01:51:53,066
and every time one of those
pictures went up, I thought,
1876
01:51:53,133 --> 01:51:54,867
"Charles Manson was a baby once.
1877
01:51:54,934 --> 01:51:58,333
I'm not sure that this is
particularly relevant."
1878
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,100
I'd just like to thank
our justice system
1879
01:52:00,166 --> 01:52:02,200
as well as the jury members,
1880
01:52:02,266 --> 01:52:04,767
listening to a lot of things
that they would much rather
1881
01:52:04,834 --> 01:52:07,700
not heard or seen.
1882
01:52:07,767 --> 01:52:10,467
I believe that without
our defense attorneys,
1883
01:52:10,533 --> 01:52:15,000
we could not have the outcome
that we have,
1884
01:52:15,066 --> 01:52:17,266
so we have to even
be appreciative
1885
01:52:17,333 --> 01:52:21,433
that there are
defense attorneys that
will take cases like this.
1886
01:52:21,500 --> 01:52:25,400
And I believe God's
will has been done.
1887
01:52:33,066 --> 01:52:34,367
I don't really want
to answer any questions.
1888
01:52:34,433 --> 01:52:40,000
I--I feel so sad that
my answers...
1889
01:52:40,066 --> 01:52:42,100
I don't know if any of
the other defense attorneys--
1890
01:52:42,166 --> 01:52:43,400
MAN: ...on death row now.
1891
01:52:43,467 --> 01:52:45,033
There will be automatic appeals.
1892
01:52:45,100 --> 01:52:47,000
There will be appeals
upon appeals.
1893
01:52:47,066 --> 01:52:50,133
This will go on for years
and years and years, and...
1894
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:55,800
♪
1895
01:52:55,867 --> 01:52:57,567
JEREMIAH: We offered to plead
guilty to every charge
1896
01:52:57,633 --> 01:52:59,433
in the information against us
1897
01:52:59,500 --> 01:53:02,433
so long as death
wasn't the result.
1898
01:53:02,500 --> 01:53:03,900
And so Joshua would've
been sentenced
1899
01:53:03,967 --> 01:53:07,266
to life without the possibility
of release.
1900
01:53:07,333 --> 01:53:08,500
It would've happened, you know,
1901
01:53:08,567 --> 01:53:10,967
3 weeks after the crime
had taken place.
1902
01:53:11,033 --> 01:53:14,667
Josh would've disappeared
into the--into the great abyss
1903
01:53:14,734 --> 01:53:20,700
of the penal system, and would
never be heard from again.
1904
01:53:20,767 --> 01:53:26,000
But that wasn't a serious enough
punishment for the state,
1905
01:53:26,066 --> 01:53:27,567
and of course,
the state was being
1906
01:53:27,633 --> 01:53:30,667
goaded on by Dr. Petit.
1907
01:53:30,734 --> 01:53:37,066
And so we had to go through
3 years of Hayes and Joshua
1908
01:53:37,133 --> 01:53:39,433
and just forcing the people
of Connecticut
1909
01:53:39,500 --> 01:53:41,433
to relive that crime
day after day after day
1910
01:53:41,500 --> 01:53:45,934
I think kind of coarsened the
social fabric of Connecticut.
1911
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,667
It would've been so much better
just to throw those guys in jail
1912
01:53:47,734 --> 01:53:50,500
and throw away the key, but--
1913
01:53:50,567 --> 01:53:52,400
GIRL: She's pitching!
1914
01:53:54,367 --> 01:53:58,300
[Applause, indistinct shouting]
1915
01:53:58,367 --> 01:54:01,567
♪
1916
01:54:04,834 --> 01:54:08,834
♪
1917
01:54:21,734 --> 01:54:24,433
DONALD: The most difficult thing
that I had to do in my life
1918
01:54:24,500 --> 01:54:29,100
was to bury my own child
and two grandchildren.
1919
01:54:29,166 --> 01:54:34,333
♪
1920
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:38,200
I don't think there
will ever be closure
1921
01:54:38,266 --> 01:54:40,200
for our family.
1922
01:54:42,567 --> 01:54:49,400
Jennifer was too much of
a giving, loving person,
1923
01:54:49,467 --> 01:54:53,200
and I don't think that
we will ever, ever,
1924
01:54:53,266 --> 01:54:58,433
if we live another 100 years,
would ever want to forget her.
1925
01:54:58,500 --> 01:55:01,600
So if closure
brings forgetting,
1926
01:55:01,667 --> 01:55:03,967
I don't want that closure.
1927
01:55:04,033 --> 01:55:06,333
[Birds chirping]
1928
01:55:12,734 --> 01:55:16,266
[Dog barking]
1929
01:55:16,333 --> 01:55:21,533
♪
1930
01:56:34,133 --> 01:56:39,266
♪
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