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Dial 911. What's the location
of your emergency?
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Sandy Hook Elementary School,
12 Dickenson Drive.
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Okay, and what's going on down there?
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I believe there's shooting
at the front glass.
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- Okay.
- Something's going on.
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I want you to take cover.
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Jen, get everybody you can
going down there.
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It's still happening.
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911, State Police...
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There's a shooting at
Sandy Hook Elementary School,
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I can hear shooting outside.
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Get off 10, take a left.
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Go straight through the light
at the bottom of the hill
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and you're going to
see it on your right.
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State Police Emergency.
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Is this the shooting in Newtown?
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- Yes, it is. Sandy Hook School.
- Okay.
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Do you have anybody with you right now?
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Do you have any children with you?
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I have no children. I have five adults
and one who's been shot twice.
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One who's been shot twice,
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do you know how to administer first aid?
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No. No.
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Can you put pressure on her wounds?
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No.
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You can't?
What's going on? Talk to me.
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He's fucking right outside
the door. I don't want to move.
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Please, Jesus. Please, Jesus.
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Okay. No, that's okay.
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Please, Jesus.
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Just try to
stay calm, okay? All right?
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Please, Jesus.
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Please, Jesus.
Please, Jesus.
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- Please, Jesus.
- Okay. All right.
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You're going to be all right.
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My brother-in-law called me
and said, "What's going on?"
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And I said, "I can't talk to you now.
I have to...
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"There're some kids on my lawn.
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"I don't know why they're there."
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I walked up to them
and they looked horrible.
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They looked horrible.
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They were out of breath.
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I could tell they had been crying,
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but they were quiet in their...
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They were quiet in their...
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Abject fear and terror.
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And then the two boys
just start talking.
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They start describing...
Describing what had happened.
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"Oh, he had
a big gun and a small gun."
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They just kept exclaiming.
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"We can't go back!
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"We can't go back to that school
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"'cause we don't have a teacher!"
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Mahmun told me he heard...
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Do you see anything
or hear anything more?
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I keep hearing shooting.
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- I keep hearing popping.
- Okay.
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Do you have your door barricaded?
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No, I'm on the floor.
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Okay. Is there a way
that you've locked the door?
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No, there's no lock here.
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The person's in the office.
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He's in the office?
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I can hear it on the loudspeaker, yeah.
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I just sat with my class
and we listened to 154 shots
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ringing through the loudspeaker.
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There's still shooting going on.
Please!
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A couple of kids were laughing.
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There was like a strange laugh.
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They didn't know what was going on.
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And one kid kept scooching away.
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And like I said,
I just had this instinct.
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I just wanted everybody together.
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And I kept saying, "Come over here!
Come over here!"
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Is anyone hurt?
Do you see anyone...
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We don't know. We don't know.
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But we smell fire from the gunshots.
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Did you see the shooter?
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I could see, through the crack
in the back of my desk,
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him standing right at my doorway,
barely 20 feet away, if that.
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He's still in the building.
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I mean, the shooting went on
for what seemed like forever.
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We just kept saying, "Stop, stop!"
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You know? And I mean...
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And then it stopped.
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Yes.
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What do you hear right now?
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It's... Now it's silent.
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Thank you.
The police officers just came in.
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Are there policemen there?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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I remember getting into that room.
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All right.
You guys are okay?
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I was the police officer
she was referring to.
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I don't think that any of us
that were in there feel that
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anybody needs to know
specifically what we saw.
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Emotionally,
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I think the world needs
to know to understand it.
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I don't think they need...
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To know, graphically,
what occurred in there.
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Phone came at about
20 minutes before 10:00 this morning
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of a shooting.
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It's believed there was one shooter,
a male, who is now dead.
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And the reports we're getting
from law enforcement is that,
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of the 26 dead, most are children.
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All right, it's 20 after 12:00.
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We just picked up
Natalie early at school.
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Sweet Pea's getting
all dressed and ready.
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We're going to go pick up James and then
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we're gonna go to Daniel's concert.
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Hi.
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William.
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- That was great.
- Thank you.
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What a concert.
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I think James is looking for a hug.
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I look at these pictures
and it's like it's still then.
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Everything is the way it should be.
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Everything looks the way it should be.
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This was Sunday, December 9th of 2012.
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We were out at the tree farm
getting our tree.
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So, this is kind of like the last
few days of life as we knew it.
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They were all taking turns
cutting down the tree.
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And, of course, little Daniel
was making sure
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everybody had their fair time.
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So, the bus would
come down to the corner.
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Daniel would wait here
and he would race.
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Mr. Wheeler would stop
halfway down the block here.
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And... And rev the engine.
And Daniel would race him.
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I still dread that every day I live,
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I'm one day farther away
from my life with Daniel.
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I didn't wanna take
the clothes out of his drawer.
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I didn't want to touch anything,
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I wanted to leave everything
just the way it was.
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So, Jackie actually had her sisters,
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while we were away one weekend,
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clean out all the drawers.
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I still have little secrets
stashed around.
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He used to wear this
old yellow football helmet
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when he'd ride in the little seat
on the back of my bicycle.
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And I have that in the garage
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and it still has some beautiful little
long, blonde hairs of his in it.
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I'll keep that forever.
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I was so intimately connected to
every little nuance of his life.
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But there was this significant gap
at the end of his little life
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that I knew nothing about.
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And I still have this need
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to know what he experienced.
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And, I guess, you can
only try to imagine
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how unbelievably difficult
and challenging that is,
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to try to interpret
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what your 7-year-old experienced
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as he was being murdered
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by a gunman in his
first grade classroom.
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It's Christmas Eve morning,
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and Natalie's on her way
delivering her gifts.
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She and Daniel.
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He's walking down to the Malin's now.
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Make sure you tell them
"Merry Christmas."
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Yes, we know.
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The Bardens and our kids were,
like, interchangeable.
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We had met the Bardens in our own yard.
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And it was like a godsend.
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It was amazing to think that
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there was this family that moved
in that had three children,
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the same ages as our kids,
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boy-girl-boy, and we had boy-girl-boy,
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and our kids took to each other
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like they had known each
other their whole lives.
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And Kyle and Daniel were like
two peas in a pod together.
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They were just as comfortable at my
house as they were at their house.
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And Mark was my go-to
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because he was home
mostly during the day,
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I would get a call, "All
right, I'll take the girls,
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"you wanna take the boys
or send all three kids up."
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All right, now what?
What's next?
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Stop two, Malin house.
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We developed this
Friday night routine...
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I'll probably cry.
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Which was something that
we all looked forward to,
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if I could speak for everybody.
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It would be a phone call
early Friday morning,
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"Are you guys free?"
"Yeah, we're free."
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"I'll bring the dessert,
you get the pizza,
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"and we'll see you later after
work and after school."
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And so, every Friday night,
we would get together.
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And we would have pizza.
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It was really a good life.
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I have to say, Daniel's funeral was
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kind of a hazy memory out
of a weird dream, for me.
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But we did manage to attend quite
a few of the other children's funerals,
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and witnessed Father Bob saying
funeral mass after funeral mass
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for 6-year-olds and 7-year-olds.
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I can't answer the questions.
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I don't know how this
could have happened.
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Shoots open a window, reaches
in and pushes open a door,
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destroys lives.
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I don't think a community
can ever be prepared,
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especially a small town, can ever be
prepared for something like this.
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So, it's fearful.
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It's really fearful that people's lives
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can be so disrupted so quickly.
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Forever. There's no making up for this.
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It just... The foundation got cracked.
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And everybody's not certain how
wide that crack is going to get.
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On that day, I was in physics class.
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And all of a sudden, I remember
my Principal, Mr. Dumet
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came on the loudspeaker and said,
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"Everybody must go into lockdown.
This is not a drill."
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I was with one of my friends
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and her mom was a teacher at Sandy
Hook Elementary School, as well.
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And so, I went over to her
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and she had already looked on her phone
and seen what was happening, too.
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And we sat there for a long time,
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waiting to get the text about our moms.
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There was a lot of shouting
right outside my door.
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"Newtown Police!" Banging on the door.
"Get Newtown Police!"
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I opened the door and the kids
just ran, they just scattered.
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Shortly thereafter,
I spoke to my husband
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and I remember saying something
like, "It's bad, right?
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"Don't tell me, but it's bad."
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And he said, "They don't know yet.
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"They just don't really know yet."
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And then, the next time I talked to him,
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he was crying on the phone.
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He said, "It's really bad.
There are a lot of kids dead."
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When we got in the car with my mom,
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she just said, "I love you and I'm okay.
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"But a lot of people aren't.
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"I think a lot of my friends aren't."
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Is there a day
that I don't think about it?
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I don't think there's
an hour or couple of hours
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I'm not thinking of something about it.
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When I went back to work,
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I know the first two days,
I was not there.
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I was working, I wasn't there.
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How did you get through your days?
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The kids.
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The kids at the school.
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The laughing, smiling.
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It was the elephant
in the room for a long time.
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Some kids wanted to talk
about it, some kids didn't.
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My students who had Miss Soto
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were devastated.
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And they would look up at me
every day and say,
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"I miss Miss Soto."
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And I was looking for
something to say to that.
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What do you say to that?
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And I would just hug them.
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The teachers, the staff,
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we understand each other.
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We don't even have
to speak, and we know.
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People came back
to the school and I felt like,
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"There's no way I can go back.
255
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"There's no way I can
put anything in order."
256
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You know, I wanted
to be there for the kids.
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But I was able to be there
because of the kids.
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And I would get up
in the morning and go,
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"Oh, my God. I don't wanna go."
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But then I'd go,
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"But if the kids can be there,
how could I not be there?"
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We were all still in shock.
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We had a spreadsheet for 26
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- wakes and funerals...
- That's crazy.
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- Two or three a day.
- Yup. I was...
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We really had to put aside the grieving,
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not just for the kids,
but for the adults.
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I mean, how do you grieve for
26 people all at the same time?
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The story that I always think about is
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Dawn and Mary and their colleagues
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who were all together in
a conference room,
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meeting with a parent.
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And Dawn's immediate
reaction, to get up and go
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running out in the hallway, charging
like a bull, all 5-feet of her.
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I know from my conversations
with her family that...
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It was evident.
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They could tell afterwards by the way
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her body had taken the bullets
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that had killed her,
that she was lunging at him.
280
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And that just says exactly
the kind of woman she was.
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To go after a guy like she
was gonna take him down
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who was shooting his AR-15 at her.
283
00:20:50,283 --> 00:20:53,762
Still, days I go, "It really happened."
284
00:20:53,763 --> 00:20:54,921
Yeah.
285
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"This really happened."
286
00:20:56,956 --> 00:20:59,125
And, I don't know if you
guys feel the same way,
287
00:20:59,158 --> 00:21:01,861
but that is the new point in my life.
288
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Things either happened
before 12/14 or after 12/14.
289
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But it's a very different life now.
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Is it ever gonna stop?
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I don't know.
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00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:45,572
What is it?
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- Forever and ever.
- Yeah.
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Four and "ever."
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The hardest moments were immediate.
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Within hours, my surviving
son expressed fear.
297
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And what does a father say?
298
00:22:05,525 --> 00:22:08,661
What does every father in the world say?
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"Don't worry. It's gonna be okay."
300
00:22:13,966 --> 00:22:20,106
And his immediate response
was, as you might imagine,
301
00:22:21,173 --> 00:22:24,076
"That's what you said to Ben."
302
00:22:28,648 --> 00:22:32,819
Ben, that's me. See the resemblance?
303
00:22:32,852 --> 00:22:36,789
That's Ben, that's me. My dad and Ben.
304
00:22:37,924 --> 00:22:39,392
So amazing.
305
00:22:42,895 --> 00:22:45,798
My brain says, "I just
wanna keep talking about Ben.
306
00:22:45,832 --> 00:22:48,334
- "Can I keep taking about Ben?"
- Right.
307
00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:50,302
I wanna talk about Ben all the time
308
00:22:50,336 --> 00:22:52,439
because I want him to stay alive.
309
00:22:52,472 --> 00:22:54,807
Right. Right.
310
00:22:54,841 --> 00:22:59,646
And people ask us about Nate
and Matty, which is wonderful.
311
00:23:00,847 --> 00:23:03,249
But now I have started signing my cards,
312
00:23:03,282 --> 00:23:08,054
"Love, David, Francine, Nate,
Maddie and Ben's spirit."
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00:23:08,087 --> 00:23:09,489
Because if I don't write that,
314
00:23:09,522 --> 00:23:12,692
I feel like people are
going to forget him.
315
00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:15,995
I was looking at a letter to
the families recently,
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00:23:16,028 --> 00:23:21,300
and it was... Individually,
they were naming every victim.
317
00:23:21,333 --> 00:23:25,838
And my brain said, "Well, maybe
his name won't be on the list.
318
00:23:26,706 --> 00:23:28,575
"And maybe he'll just be alive."
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00:23:28,608 --> 00:23:30,843
You know, these crazy things.
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I'm still there.
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00:23:33,179 --> 00:23:35,615
Oh, hi, good to see you.
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Hi, welcome to the Ben Wheeler Show.
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Today, the tornadoes are
coming and the elevator...
324
00:23:42,354 --> 00:23:44,691
Benny was a challenge.
325
00:23:44,724 --> 00:23:47,193
A 6-year-old boy with that much energy.
326
00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:52,965
Dinner table was so hard because
he was just all over the place.
327
00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:58,070
Oh, now, to go and have
some popsicles. Bye.
328
00:23:59,506 --> 00:24:01,073
Francine's uncle took
this amazing picture of him
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00:24:01,107 --> 00:24:03,476
when he was three or four.
It's up in the living room.
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00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:07,980
He's jumping into a puddle
and he's above the air.
331
00:24:08,014 --> 00:24:12,118
And her uncle titled it "Flying Boy."
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00:24:12,151 --> 00:24:13,820
And that's who he was.
333
00:24:13,853 --> 00:24:15,655
He was so rarely connected to the earth.
334
00:24:15,688 --> 00:24:19,759
He was just... Nothing ever
moved fast enough for him.
335
00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:22,028
If he got five stickers in a row,
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00:24:22,061 --> 00:24:24,697
he would get some kind of
positive reinforcement.
337
00:24:24,731 --> 00:24:27,667
Look at this, "Gentle body,
no licking, no biting."
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00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:29,468
Great table manners.
339
00:24:29,502 --> 00:24:31,203
Not so good.
340
00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:33,439
You know, the way everyone does,
341
00:24:33,472 --> 00:24:35,041
you mark your kid's height on the wall.
342
00:24:35,074 --> 00:24:38,277
This is Nate's here and Ben is here.
343
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:43,015
Starting in January of '09
344
00:24:43,049 --> 00:24:49,722
and then in November
of 2012, he was here.
345
00:24:49,756 --> 00:24:53,960
And I don't remember exactly
when Nate wrote this,
346
00:24:53,993 --> 00:24:55,828
but he came down here on his own.
347
00:24:55,862 --> 00:24:57,864
I think it wasn't prompted in any way.
348
00:25:04,771 --> 00:25:06,706
We're all terrified of forgetting
349
00:25:06,739 --> 00:25:08,775
what he looked like,
what he sounded like.
350
00:25:10,376 --> 00:25:13,012
So I will go back to a video
351
00:25:13,045 --> 00:25:18,117
or a picture or something
just to have him back.
352
00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:20,312
I have these memories,
I have these pictures,
353
00:26:20,346 --> 00:26:23,115
I have hair and teeth.
354
00:26:23,149 --> 00:26:26,052
And yet, you go through
these crazy motions of like,
355
00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:28,621
"Am I just dreaming all of this?"
356
00:26:36,195 --> 00:26:40,667
I still keep expecting him to be
there, but have I just gone insane?
357
00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:44,370
Is this real? Did he even ever exist?
358
00:27:11,864 --> 00:27:17,103
This is most of the stuff that's been...
359
00:27:19,405 --> 00:27:23,409
I don't even know how many
thousands of letters
360
00:27:23,442 --> 00:27:26,412
and gifts and portraits.
361
00:27:27,747 --> 00:27:29,849
So many of them have never been opened
362
00:27:29,882 --> 00:27:32,084
'cause I just can't do that yet.
363
00:27:36,322 --> 00:27:38,190
I'm gonna be...
364
00:27:38,224 --> 00:27:39,759
I love Luigi.
365
00:27:39,792 --> 00:27:42,128
- No, you're catching up!
- Sugar.
366
00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:45,431
Jake was in third grade
at the time of the shooting.
367
00:27:45,464 --> 00:27:47,399
He was at school that day.
368
00:27:48,968 --> 00:27:52,805
He describes 12/14 as the
day hell came to his school.
369
00:27:54,741 --> 00:28:00,412
He has gone through cycles of
grief the same as any adult.
370
00:28:00,446 --> 00:28:05,617
And we went through a period where
he didn't want to talk about Dylan.
371
00:28:05,651 --> 00:28:07,419
He didn't want us to mention his name,
372
00:28:07,453 --> 00:28:11,023
he wanted us to take down all the
photos of Dylan in the house.
373
00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:17,797
Lights always have to be on now.
374
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:19,732
He's 10 now, and you get to the point
375
00:28:19,766 --> 00:28:22,434
where your imagination
of monsters under the bed,
376
00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:25,304
and he's seen the real
monsters unfortunately.
377
00:28:33,780 --> 00:28:36,615
Good evening.
378
00:28:36,648 --> 00:28:43,022
We lost our son, Benjamin,
the morning of December 14th
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00:28:45,257 --> 00:28:51,463
to an unstable, suicidal individual
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00:28:51,497 --> 00:28:58,070
who had access to a weapon
that has no place in a home.
381
00:29:00,106 --> 00:29:02,074
Right now,
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00:29:02,108 --> 00:29:04,877
professionals in every area
pertaining to this crime,
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00:29:04,911 --> 00:29:07,679
from mental health to
parenting to school safety,
384
00:29:07,713 --> 00:29:13,085
are unable to connect the necessary dots
385
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:16,255
to prevent this from happening again.
386
00:29:16,288 --> 00:29:19,058
When I look at this event,
I see these dominoes,
387
00:29:19,091 --> 00:29:21,660
each of them very specific,
388
00:29:21,693 --> 00:29:23,395
that had to line up
that way that morning
389
00:29:23,429 --> 00:29:26,598
for things to happen
the way they did here.
390
00:29:26,632 --> 00:29:29,635
And when I look at that, all I see
391
00:29:29,668 --> 00:29:31,904
are the spaces in between
392
00:29:31,938 --> 00:29:37,043
where somebody, somewhere along the way,
393
00:29:37,076 --> 00:29:41,680
could have stopped the
next domino from falling.
394
00:29:41,713 --> 00:29:46,752
The liberty of any person to own
a military-style assault weapon
395
00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:48,087
and a high capacity magazine
396
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,291
and keep them in their home is second
397
00:29:52,324 --> 00:29:57,997
to the right of my son to his life.
398
00:29:59,765 --> 00:30:02,001
His life.
399
00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:06,272
Let's honor the founding documents
400
00:30:06,305 --> 00:30:08,875
and get our priorities straight.
401
00:30:10,877 --> 00:30:12,411
Thank you.
402
00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:18,650
What happened to our children
403
00:30:18,684 --> 00:30:23,856
was transforming in ways
you can never anticipate.
404
00:30:25,191 --> 00:30:29,328
And there is an immediate human desire
405
00:30:32,364 --> 00:30:37,269
to protect the rest of the world
from having to go through this.
406
00:30:38,037 --> 00:30:40,306
My name is Laurie Veillette.
407
00:30:40,339 --> 00:30:44,010
I am a volunteer EMT for Newtown
Volunteer Ambulance Corps,
408
00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:46,012
and I staff every Friday.
409
00:30:47,213 --> 00:30:48,981
In the early morning of December 14th...
410
00:30:49,015 --> 00:30:51,150
We had no idea there was a shooting.
411
00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:53,385
It was never... We were staging.
412
00:30:53,419 --> 00:30:56,455
I thought it might have been a domestic.
413
00:30:56,488 --> 00:31:01,627
And a woman was given to us
and I was so happy to see her
414
00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:06,732
because she was injured,
but not life-threatening at all.
415
00:31:06,765 --> 00:31:09,601
And I thought, "Okay, this is it.
This is great. I mean,
416
00:31:09,635 --> 00:31:12,371
"I saw all the police go in, I don't
know exactly what's going on,
417
00:31:12,404 --> 00:31:16,342
"but here's this patient who's
gonna make it. This is good."
418
00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:18,244
We load her up.
419
00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:22,114
Great. And I'm in the back,
ready to rock and roll,
420
00:31:22,148 --> 00:31:27,053
and the door swings back open
and there's a paramedic with...
421
00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:43,102
And that just changed everything.
422
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:46,105
And, um...
423
00:31:48,107 --> 00:31:51,944
And then to know that that
was just one of many was...
424
00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:56,949
Was disgusting, was horrible.
425
00:32:01,620 --> 00:32:03,355
But,
426
00:32:03,389 --> 00:32:05,657
that's what a tragedy is, I guess.
427
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:10,629
Unexpected, absolute horribleness.
428
00:32:24,176 --> 00:32:25,377
Come on, Daddy!
429
00:32:25,411 --> 00:32:27,546
- You don't want your coat?
- No.
430
00:32:36,022 --> 00:32:38,324
Daddy, he's in...
431
00:32:38,357 --> 00:32:40,126
Oh, my goodness.
432
00:32:40,926 --> 00:32:42,128
Oh, wow.
433
00:32:57,343 --> 00:32:58,944
You're just coming home at 12:30
434
00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:00,212
and then you're... And then you're...
435
00:33:00,246 --> 00:33:02,214
You're here until soccer?
436
00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:07,186
In the first year, we were
alternating our meltdowns.
437
00:33:07,219 --> 00:33:08,920
Sometimes, we'd meltdown together
438
00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:11,023
and then the kids would come to our aid.
439
00:33:11,057 --> 00:33:13,492
- Bye.
- Careful.
440
00:33:15,894 --> 00:33:19,065
James and Natalie would just
emerge from wherever they were
441
00:33:19,098 --> 00:33:21,933
and put their arms around us, literally.
442
00:33:21,967 --> 00:33:24,170
There's a little more in here.
443
00:33:25,037 --> 00:33:26,272
Who knows how to do this?
444
00:33:26,305 --> 00:33:29,608
There's no... There's no way to do this.
445
00:33:29,641 --> 00:33:32,144
And we don't want to
sweep it under the rug.
446
00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:35,614
And at the same time, we
don't want to dwell on it.
447
00:33:35,647 --> 00:33:39,618
And even with my wife Jackie, I
feel like if I'm having a moment,
448
00:33:39,651 --> 00:33:43,222
I don't want to bring that on her
if she's having a good moment.
449
00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:50,996
I didn't like seeing
my parents all upset.
450
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:57,069
And they definitely were upset a lot
longer and a lot more than I was.
451
00:33:57,103 --> 00:33:59,471
And then they'd always feel bad like,
452
00:33:59,505 --> 00:34:02,708
"Oh, I shouldn't be crying in front
of you 'cause it's making you upset."
453
00:34:02,741 --> 00:34:04,009
But then I'd feel bad
454
00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:09,047
because they were trying to not
think about it because of me.
455
00:34:11,117 --> 00:34:13,719
I remember before Natalie came back,
456
00:34:13,752 --> 00:34:20,058
teachers said that she just wanted
to be treated like nothing happened.
457
00:34:20,859 --> 00:34:23,095
So that's what we all did.
458
00:34:24,163 --> 00:34:26,932
To me, Newtown was always
just this perfect...
459
00:34:26,965 --> 00:34:29,268
- I mean, I love Newtown.
- Yeah.
460
00:34:29,301 --> 00:34:31,337
It was always this perfect little town,
461
00:34:31,370 --> 00:34:35,073
and everything is so safe
and everything is so...
462
00:34:35,107 --> 00:34:37,676
- I mean, everyone is so nice here.
- Yeah.
463
00:34:37,709 --> 00:34:38,910
So, I would never expect
464
00:34:38,944 --> 00:34:42,381
that somebody like that would
be just around the corner.
465
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:57,563
I feel like because he was...
I don't know how to say it.
466
00:34:57,596 --> 00:35:00,499
- Disturbed or something.
- Yeah.
467
00:35:00,532 --> 00:35:02,868
I feel like she should
have been more careful.
468
00:35:07,306 --> 00:35:09,441
- And she let him do what he wanted.
- Yeah.
469
00:35:09,475 --> 00:35:12,344
And she had the guns in the house.
470
00:35:19,318 --> 00:35:21,687
I think if you have
a gun and you have a son,
471
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:26,057
you should have it in a safe and
maybe not let him know the code.
472
00:35:26,091 --> 00:35:27,293
No.
473
00:35:42,874 --> 00:35:46,978
So, this was my driveway.
474
00:35:47,012 --> 00:35:53,785
And the shooter's house is kind
of kitty-corner to us over here.
475
00:35:56,888 --> 00:36:00,759
Part of me really wanted to
go and see it come down,
476
00:36:00,792 --> 00:36:02,494
but I'd probably just spit at the house
477
00:36:02,528 --> 00:36:05,231
as it came down, to be perfectly honest.
478
00:36:07,098 --> 00:36:08,500
You know your neighbors' houses,
479
00:36:08,534 --> 00:36:11,237
you just don't always
know your neighbors.
480
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:14,640
Yeah.
481
00:36:37,896 --> 00:36:43,469
I'm always thinking about the shooter
and his mother in particular.
482
00:36:45,871 --> 00:36:49,241
I'm certainly not into
a space of forgiveness yet.
483
00:36:49,275 --> 00:36:51,410
Might never be, I don't know.
484
00:36:51,443 --> 00:36:54,413
If he had lived, if he
hadn't committed suicide,
485
00:36:55,381 --> 00:36:57,849
I wouldn't forgive him at all.
486
00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:01,687
And I don't forgive his mother
487
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:04,356
for giving him access
to the weapons either.
488
00:37:06,858 --> 00:37:09,561
And after 12/14,
489
00:37:12,998 --> 00:37:14,800
I used to have dreams about it.
490
00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:19,505
It's these crazy superhero dreams.
491
00:37:20,872 --> 00:37:23,775
Dreams where I'm in the classroom
and I'm able to stop him,
492
00:37:23,809 --> 00:37:27,178
or dreams where I'm in the classroom
and I'm not able to stop him
493
00:37:27,212 --> 00:37:31,817
and I die with Dylan.
But I'm with my son.
494
00:37:43,662 --> 00:37:48,233
Dr. Begg, did you actually
treat Sandy Hook victims?
495
00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:50,001
Uh, yes.
496
00:37:50,035 --> 00:37:55,674
I was... I was in the ER that day
when the... When the victims came in.
497
00:37:55,707 --> 00:37:58,577
Can you describe the kinds of wounds
498
00:37:58,610 --> 00:38:03,048
and the number of bullets
in these small bodies?
499
00:38:03,081 --> 00:38:09,220
Most of the... Most of the
victims actually didn't come in.
500
00:38:09,254 --> 00:38:14,159
And we have such horrific
injuries to little bodies,
501
00:38:14,192 --> 00:38:17,195
that's what happens. They don't
even make it to the hospital.
502
00:38:17,228 --> 00:38:21,266
The coroner from the state of
Connecticut, when he did his review,
503
00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:22,701
and this is public knowledge,
504
00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:27,373
stated that each body
had three to 11 bullets.
505
00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:30,376
Okay?
506
00:38:30,409 --> 00:38:33,111
When a child has
three to 11 bullets in them,
507
00:38:33,144 --> 00:38:35,381
and it's an assault-type bullet,
508
00:38:35,414 --> 00:38:39,150
it explodes inside the body. It
doesn't go through a straight line.
509
00:38:39,184 --> 00:38:40,986
It goes in and then it opens up.
510
00:38:43,489 --> 00:38:46,992
That... That's not a survivable injury.
511
00:38:47,025 --> 00:38:50,796
This is a public health issue.
30,000 people a year die.
512
00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:52,731
Folks who have cancer and... And...
513
00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:54,933
And stroke and heart attack,
there's a lot of research.
514
00:38:54,966 --> 00:38:58,437
But there's not the research.
There's just anecdotes...
515
00:38:58,470 --> 00:39:00,806
On this day at Sandy Hook,
516
00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:03,709
I knew that... I knew that
517
00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:09,515
a lot of children had
already been killed.
518
00:39:11,282 --> 00:39:13,351
And may not be coming in.
519
00:39:14,185 --> 00:39:16,788
But I only let the staff know
520
00:39:18,223 --> 00:39:20,125
that there were a couple coming in,
521
00:39:20,158 --> 00:39:21,893
the ones that we knew
522
00:39:21,927 --> 00:39:24,696
because about
a third of the staff we had
523
00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:27,666
actively working were from Newtown,
524
00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:30,469
such as me
525
00:39:32,237 --> 00:39:36,141
and many of them had...
526
00:39:38,577 --> 00:39:42,914
Had children in the school
systems at that time.
527
00:39:42,948 --> 00:39:45,383
And so, as it turns out,
528
00:39:46,752 --> 00:39:50,155
we ended up getting
just a couple of the...
529
00:39:50,188 --> 00:39:51,990
Couple of the victims.
530
00:39:52,023 --> 00:39:54,426
And we tried our best.
531
00:39:56,895 --> 00:39:59,965
We tried our best
and we were unsuccessful.
532
00:40:01,332 --> 00:40:05,937
I'm not an activist, but I said
to myself that day that...
533
00:40:10,341 --> 00:40:11,543
That...
534
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:15,914
I'm not... I'm not taking this...
535
00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:20,051
I'm not taking this one laying down.
536
00:40:23,789 --> 00:40:28,494
As somebody who was so close to losing
537
00:40:28,527 --> 00:40:31,062
the person that I love most in my life,
538
00:40:31,096 --> 00:40:36,535
I knew that in honor of the
people who I knew who died,
539
00:40:36,568 --> 00:40:39,971
all of the teachers
who died, I knew them,
540
00:40:40,005 --> 00:40:41,940
I needed to do something.
541
00:40:44,743 --> 00:40:48,046
I went with my dad and about
100 others from Newtown,
542
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:53,552
and we ended up leading this
march of 6,000 Americans.
543
00:40:53,585 --> 00:40:56,488
- Stop the violence!
- Stop the violence!
544
00:40:56,522 --> 00:40:59,124
There's a picture
of Sarah holding up a sign
545
00:40:59,157 --> 00:41:02,528
when she and her dad went
to the march on Washington
546
00:41:02,561 --> 00:41:05,731
in January following the tragedy.
547
00:41:05,764 --> 00:41:10,802
And there's a little spark in her
eye that had a look of like,
548
00:41:10,836 --> 00:41:13,872
"I'm not really sure
what I'm about to get into,
549
00:41:13,905 --> 00:41:16,742
"but this is big."
550
00:41:16,775 --> 00:41:20,646
Twelve relatives of Sandy
Hook victims caught a ride to Washington
551
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:22,814
aboard Air Force One Monday night
552
00:41:22,848 --> 00:41:24,950
after the President came to their state
553
00:41:24,983 --> 00:41:28,419
to hail Connecticut's
sweeping new gun laws.
554
00:41:28,453 --> 00:41:30,589
So, Connecticut's shown the way.
555
00:41:31,757 --> 00:41:35,961
And now is the time for
Congress to do the same.
556
00:41:38,764 --> 00:41:41,366
The families of eight Newtown victims
557
00:41:41,399 --> 00:41:43,769
will be back on Capitol Hill today.
558
00:41:43,802 --> 00:41:46,872
Tragedy has turned them
into accidental lobbyists
559
00:41:46,905 --> 00:41:49,675
pushing for new gun restrictions.
560
00:41:49,708 --> 00:41:51,409
I'm a guitar player.
561
00:41:51,442 --> 00:41:53,344
I don't belong in the halls of Congress
562
00:41:53,378 --> 00:41:54,980
trying to change the world.
563
00:41:55,013 --> 00:41:56,347
But here we are.
564
00:41:56,381 --> 00:41:58,950
I was very naive going into this, okay?
565
00:41:58,984 --> 00:42:02,220
And I thought making sure that
everybody that purchases firearms
566
00:42:02,253 --> 00:42:03,989
should have to go
through a background check.
567
00:42:04,022 --> 00:42:06,157
I thought that that was
the low hanging fruit,
568
00:42:06,191 --> 00:42:09,561
and that, if anything,
that's gonna get through.
569
00:42:09,595 --> 00:42:13,464
What larger job description do they have
570
00:42:13,498 --> 00:42:16,602
than keeping their constituents safe?
571
00:42:16,635 --> 00:42:19,337
What's the... What's a bigger line item
572
00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:20,872
in their job description?
573
00:42:20,906 --> 00:42:22,240
Morning.
574
00:42:22,273 --> 00:42:25,143
We are committed, completely
committed, to seeing this through
575
00:42:25,176 --> 00:42:29,447
for all the changes that help
eliminate the causes of gun violence.
576
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,750
We were downstairs in
the basement of the Senate
577
00:42:31,783 --> 00:42:33,384
when we started getting news
578
00:42:33,418 --> 00:42:36,454
that it looked like senators who
saw that we may not pass then
579
00:42:36,487 --> 00:42:38,256
were jumping ship.
580
00:42:38,289 --> 00:42:42,393
And I was just incredulous,
like, "Are you kidding me?"
581
00:42:42,427 --> 00:42:44,129
The gun control legislation
582
00:42:44,162 --> 00:42:46,497
that was supposed to tighten
background checks,
583
00:42:46,531 --> 00:42:49,334
was defeated today in the US Senate.
584
00:42:52,671 --> 00:42:54,773
We are here now, we will always be here
585
00:42:54,806 --> 00:42:57,108
because we have no other choice.
586
00:42:57,142 --> 00:42:58,910
We are not going away.
587
00:42:58,944 --> 00:43:00,979
And every day, as more people are killed
588
00:43:01,012 --> 00:43:03,014
in this country because of gun violence,
589
00:43:03,048 --> 00:43:06,251
our determination grows stronger.
590
00:43:14,259 --> 00:43:16,962
Let's clip the length
and see where it goes.
591
00:43:18,930 --> 00:43:21,499
I do think of Mark as a brother
592
00:43:21,532 --> 00:43:23,835
because we work together very closely.
593
00:43:23,869 --> 00:43:27,438
We can sense what each other is feeling
594
00:43:27,472 --> 00:43:29,908
and protect each other when necessary.
595
00:43:29,941 --> 00:43:32,277
'Cause we've chosen a similar path
596
00:43:32,310 --> 00:43:35,981
of what we wanna do
to honor our children.
597
00:43:36,014 --> 00:43:40,318
That's a bond for life now
with that family.
598
00:43:41,552 --> 00:43:43,955
I will always have their back
599
00:43:43,989 --> 00:43:47,258
and I believe that they'll
always have mine as well.
600
00:44:00,005 --> 00:44:02,373
Yes, I know you're on
a tight time schedule,
601
00:44:02,407 --> 00:44:04,609
but make sure you get a
chance to meet Nicole and...
602
00:44:04,642 --> 00:44:05,811
- Hi.
- Hi.
603
00:44:05,844 --> 00:44:07,645
- Kim Jacobs.
- It's very nice to meet you.
604
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:08,847
Sorry for your loss though.
605
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,249
- Thank you, I appreciate that.
- Absolutely.
606
00:44:11,282 --> 00:44:14,953
As a member of a major
city chief's organization,
607
00:44:14,986 --> 00:44:18,389
right after Sandy Hook happened,
608
00:44:18,423 --> 00:44:24,195
we received briefing about the
horror that actually transpired.
609
00:44:24,229 --> 00:44:27,833
We heard all the politicians talking
about something's gotta be done.
610
00:44:27,866 --> 00:44:30,902
And now the politicians have backed off.
611
00:44:30,936 --> 00:44:33,772
And guess what?
It's not on the agenda anymore.
612
00:44:34,773 --> 00:44:36,842
So this was, um...
613
00:44:36,875 --> 00:44:40,611
This is my son, Dylan.
614
00:44:40,645 --> 00:44:44,015
This is when he was about
four years old.
615
00:44:44,049 --> 00:44:50,355
And this was taken about
four months before he died.
616
00:44:50,388 --> 00:44:53,992
He needed me in a different
way than Jake needed me.
617
00:44:54,926 --> 00:44:56,862
He was always close.
618
00:44:58,129 --> 00:45:01,900
When we first found out
that Dylan was autistic,
619
00:45:01,933 --> 00:45:06,071
Ian and I went through
a mini-grieving process
620
00:45:06,104 --> 00:45:10,441
knowing that he might never
lead an independent life,
621
00:45:10,475 --> 00:45:14,880
he might struggle to make
loving relationships.
622
00:45:14,913 --> 00:45:19,217
Then he opened our eyes up
in a very different way.
623
00:45:19,250 --> 00:45:22,620
The way he would look
at things and make me stop
624
00:45:22,653 --> 00:45:26,424
and get down to his level
and look at things with him.
625
00:45:26,457 --> 00:45:30,028
Colors are seen differently,
sounds are heard differently,
626
00:45:30,061 --> 00:45:33,164
textures are felt differently.
627
00:45:33,198 --> 00:45:36,902
He actually added
so much more to this family
628
00:45:36,935 --> 00:45:39,905
than we even realized at the time.
629
00:45:47,178 --> 00:45:49,380
It kills me.
630
00:45:49,414 --> 00:45:54,285
I don't think people realize every
day it's like taking my heart out
631
00:45:56,087 --> 00:45:57,956
and doing that all over again.
632
00:45:57,989 --> 00:45:59,424
And that at the end of the day,
633
00:45:59,457 --> 00:46:01,793
you just take all the tattered
remains and shove it back in
634
00:46:01,827 --> 00:46:03,995
and wake up to do it again the next day.
635
00:46:04,029 --> 00:46:05,430
I'm so sorry to interrupt you.
636
00:46:05,463 --> 00:46:07,532
- I'm so glad to talk to you.
- That's okay, Pastor Jenny.
637
00:46:07,565 --> 00:46:09,734
But I always hate to take
y'all to the deep places.
638
00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:11,002
No, no, I appreciate the question.
639
00:46:11,036 --> 00:46:13,238
But I knew that that's where you
were going towards the end.
640
00:46:13,271 --> 00:46:15,440
So, I'm so grateful that you
were able to share that.
641
00:46:15,473 --> 00:46:17,042
I know that's hard.
642
00:46:17,075 --> 00:46:20,445
Channel 4 would like to talk with you a
little bit more tonight if that's okay.
643
00:46:20,478 --> 00:46:21,779
We're all set.
644
00:46:21,813 --> 00:46:24,816
Talk to me about your son if you will.
What do I need to know?
645
00:46:24,850 --> 00:46:27,385
Dylan, um...
646
00:46:27,418 --> 00:46:30,021
Every parent thinks
their child is special.
647
00:46:30,055 --> 00:46:31,990
So I'm no different in that regard.
648
00:46:32,023 --> 00:46:34,292
Dylan was an absolute brave soul.
649
00:46:34,325 --> 00:46:37,428
Hey, how you doing?
You're sideways.
650
00:46:38,129 --> 00:46:40,265
Oh, you're still sideways.
651
00:46:40,298 --> 00:46:42,767
Where are you?
That's not our house.
652
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,470
Are you in the bathroom?
653
00:46:45,503 --> 00:46:47,638
You're on the toilet right now.
654
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,510
Oh, man. You crack me up, kid.
655
00:47:10,929 --> 00:47:12,463
It never goes away.
656
00:47:13,598 --> 00:47:16,001
It just never really goes away.
657
00:47:17,268 --> 00:47:19,104
I mean, standing at the door
of that school
658
00:47:19,137 --> 00:47:22,273
and seeing that broken glass,
hearing that crunching,
659
00:47:23,141 --> 00:47:26,177
I hear that still in my sleep.
660
00:47:28,113 --> 00:47:29,948
You know, Easter marks for us the hope
661
00:47:29,981 --> 00:47:32,217
that every springtime holds for us.
662
00:47:32,250 --> 00:47:35,220
It gives us that promise
that there is new life.
663
00:47:35,253 --> 00:47:38,089
For too many hours
and for too many days,
664
00:47:38,123 --> 00:47:41,392
we've been caught up
in a very gray winter.
665
00:47:41,426 --> 00:47:46,264
And now the days grow longer,
the darkness grows less.
666
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,536
We're not gonna let the
darkness overwhelm us,
667
00:47:51,569 --> 00:47:53,104
but the darkness is there.
668
00:47:54,472 --> 00:47:55,840
It's still part of life,
669
00:47:55,873 --> 00:47:57,275
and you go in the parking lot
670
00:47:57,308 --> 00:48:00,011
when the parents are picking the kids up
671
00:48:00,045 --> 00:48:02,147
and you still see they're apprehensive.
672
00:48:02,180 --> 00:48:04,782
"Is my child coming out?"
673
00:48:04,815 --> 00:48:06,751
Nothing has happened,
there's been no more,
674
00:48:06,784 --> 00:48:08,954
but you can see in their faces, like,
675
00:48:08,987 --> 00:48:11,089
"My child's gonna come out, right?"
676
00:48:11,122 --> 00:48:15,160
It's just, you see that
still in this community.
677
00:48:24,535 --> 00:48:25,670
Thank you.
678
00:48:33,678 --> 00:48:35,013
What can I do?
679
00:48:35,046 --> 00:48:38,316
How can I be most effective
in this situation?
680
00:48:40,418 --> 00:48:43,054
We're all victimized with this.
681
00:48:44,455 --> 00:48:46,057
You go through
the teachers that were shot,
682
00:48:46,091 --> 00:48:47,993
you go through the
12 children that escaped,
683
00:48:48,026 --> 00:48:49,627
you go through all the first responders.
684
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:53,231
Then you start realizing the whole
community's been victimized.
685
00:48:53,264 --> 00:48:57,635
And where do we go to protect
and preserve ourselves?
686
00:49:16,921 --> 00:49:19,824
Here's the introduction
and then a couple of songs.
687
00:49:19,857 --> 00:49:20,925
Then you and I do...
688
00:49:20,958 --> 00:49:22,527
- So you and I are doing...
- That's us.
689
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,229
Do you wanna do it together still or...
690
00:49:24,262 --> 00:49:25,063
Yes.
691
00:49:25,096 --> 00:49:27,232
If you're okay with that.
692
00:49:27,265 --> 00:49:29,467
I'll do whatever you want me to do.
693
00:49:31,236 --> 00:49:32,437
Um...
694
00:49:38,209 --> 00:49:41,212
You just, um... Look at me.
695
00:49:44,182 --> 00:49:46,251
- Mmm.
- It's gonna be all right.
696
00:50:30,928 --> 00:50:34,965
Every day we would drive
by their house, every day.
697
00:50:34,999 --> 00:50:37,202
And I didn't know what to do.
698
00:50:39,003 --> 00:50:41,639
Do we stop by, do we not stop by?
699
00:50:43,241 --> 00:50:46,111
Do I bring them dinner? Do I...
700
00:50:48,746 --> 00:50:51,749
It was unchartered territory.
701
00:50:53,918 --> 00:50:59,090
'Cause, I think, at the firehouse
that day, there was such tragedy.
702
00:50:59,124 --> 00:51:03,461
And I don't think I understood
that it would change everything.
703
00:51:16,107 --> 00:51:20,111
There is a volunteer firehouse
just adjacent to that school,
704
00:51:20,145 --> 00:51:22,447
and that is where teachers were told
705
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,815
to take the children
just as soon as they could.
706
00:51:24,849 --> 00:51:27,318
Are there families there who don't know
707
00:51:27,352 --> 00:51:28,753
where their children are?
708
00:51:28,786 --> 00:51:30,588
Yes. There are still families here
709
00:51:30,621 --> 00:51:32,690
who do not know
where their children are.
710
00:51:32,723 --> 00:51:35,260
And they're not being told anything.
711
00:51:38,729 --> 00:51:44,169
You could feel it. You could
feel the emergency in the air.
712
00:51:44,202 --> 00:51:47,772
You could feel panic.
713
00:51:50,175 --> 00:51:54,612
There was all this murmuring going
on, "The principal was shot.
714
00:51:54,645 --> 00:51:59,049
"There's a couple of shooters.
There's kids in a bathroom."
715
00:51:59,083 --> 00:52:01,819
There was a lot of
little snippets of information,
716
00:52:01,852 --> 00:52:05,323
but they hadn't heard anything
about kids at that point.
717
00:52:06,857 --> 00:52:08,759
Um...
718
00:52:08,793 --> 00:52:10,295
And then...
719
00:52:14,832 --> 00:52:20,705
And then there was the room with the
parents waiting for their kids.
720
00:52:23,641 --> 00:52:27,345
We just kind of waited.
721
00:52:27,378 --> 00:52:30,348
And then, they brought the children out
722
00:52:30,381 --> 00:52:35,486
and it was heartbreaking to see them.
723
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,324
They were all holding hands in a line.
724
00:52:40,725 --> 00:52:43,160
And I saw my Kyle come.
725
00:52:44,462 --> 00:52:47,432
And true to his personality,
726
00:52:47,465 --> 00:52:52,503
I think he was skipping
and holding somebody's hand.
727
00:52:52,537 --> 00:52:56,474
And he said, "Mom,
I didn't cry, I didn't cry."
728
00:53:01,879 --> 00:53:05,583
And his teacher came behind.
729
00:53:05,616 --> 00:53:07,852
She had a wild look on her face
730
00:53:07,885 --> 00:53:11,856
and she said, "They heard it all."
She said, "They heard it all.
731
00:53:14,825 --> 00:53:18,396
"They heard the guns,
they heard the screaming,
732
00:53:18,429 --> 00:53:20,298
"but they heard it all."
733
00:53:25,836 --> 00:53:31,676
And then, you look over
where the first graders are
734
00:53:31,709 --> 00:53:36,247
and there are so many
parents with no children.
735
00:53:39,517 --> 00:53:44,088
And there was that feeling
of, "Where are their kids?"
736
00:53:44,121 --> 00:53:46,291
And then, um...
737
00:53:46,324 --> 00:53:49,527
And then I saw Mark,
and there was no Daniel.
738
00:53:57,535 --> 00:54:01,439
Then, the Governor came up and said,
739
00:54:01,472 --> 00:54:04,775
"We regret to let you know that
740
00:54:05,876 --> 00:54:10,281
"20 children were shot
and killed in the school,
741
00:54:12,082 --> 00:54:14,519
"as well as six educators."
742
00:54:14,552 --> 00:54:17,888
And I tell you, the room erupted.
743
00:54:19,957 --> 00:54:21,559
It will forever...
744
00:54:22,427 --> 00:54:24,629
Forever be in mind.
745
00:54:32,737 --> 00:54:37,007
This guy walked into the
school and he went left.
746
00:54:37,041 --> 00:54:38,743
Why did he go left?
747
00:54:38,776 --> 00:54:42,279
Kyle was on the right. The
second door on the right.
748
00:54:42,313 --> 00:54:45,450
You know, why did he go
this way and not that way?
749
00:54:46,684 --> 00:54:47,852
I don't know.
750
00:54:49,687 --> 00:54:53,491
It's not fair. None of this is fair.
751
00:55:13,544 --> 00:55:15,112
Benny loved this place.
752
00:55:15,145 --> 00:55:17,782
He loved Peter Rabbit's house.
He loved to come here and play.
753
00:55:17,815 --> 00:55:19,684
You can go inside and play around.
754
00:55:19,717 --> 00:55:21,719
It's a really beautiful playhouse.
755
00:55:27,291 --> 00:55:28,759
Isn't that sweet?
756
00:55:36,467 --> 00:55:39,604
If you look at any catastrophic event,
757
00:55:39,637 --> 00:55:41,972
there are gonna be places where
758
00:55:42,006 --> 00:55:44,909
if that person had turned
left instead of right,
759
00:55:44,942 --> 00:55:48,245
events would not have
unfolded the way they did.
760
00:55:48,278 --> 00:55:52,950
But that's life. That's the
chaos of the universe.
761
00:55:52,983 --> 00:55:55,553
And I, previously,
762
00:55:55,586 --> 00:56:01,291
found a certain amount of
beauty in that chaos.
763
00:56:01,325 --> 00:56:03,628
And now, the challenge is
to continue to see
764
00:56:03,661 --> 00:56:05,295
the beauty in that chaos.
765
00:56:05,329 --> 00:56:07,865
Because now, the chaos has hurt me.
766
00:56:18,976 --> 00:56:22,079
Demolition work has started
at Sandy Hook Elementary School
767
00:56:22,112 --> 00:56:23,848
in Newtown, Connecticut.
768
00:56:23,881 --> 00:56:27,117
The school, of course, the site of
that December 2012 mass shooting...
769
00:56:27,151 --> 00:56:31,989
For the first several months
I could not imagine,
770
00:56:32,022 --> 00:56:35,660
why anyone in the world would
want to go back into that school.
771
00:56:37,194 --> 00:56:41,031
And one morning, and it was
literally one morning,
772
00:56:41,065 --> 00:56:44,702
I woke up and I had to go.
773
00:56:44,735 --> 00:56:47,805
I knew the school
was gonna be torn down.
774
00:56:47,838 --> 00:56:51,041
And I had to see it
before it was gone forever.
775
00:56:53,277 --> 00:56:55,613
It answered small, minor questions
776
00:56:55,646 --> 00:56:57,515
that turned into huge questions
777
00:56:57,548 --> 00:56:59,784
when you're unable to sleep.
778
00:56:59,817 --> 00:57:04,955
"Where was he? What did it look like?
How big was the room?"
779
00:57:04,989 --> 00:57:09,193
What it gave me was a
remarkable amount of respect
780
00:57:09,226 --> 00:57:15,800
and admiration for the men
and women who were there.
781
00:57:18,936 --> 00:57:23,641
I didn't have a face-to-face meeting
with the EMT who was with Ben.
782
00:57:23,674 --> 00:57:26,911
But she wrote us a lovely,
lovely letter.
783
00:57:28,813 --> 00:57:31,081
She was afraid to write to us
784
00:57:31,115 --> 00:57:34,218
because she felt like
she was forever going to be
785
00:57:34,251 --> 00:57:37,354
a terrible reminder of his loss.
786
00:57:37,387 --> 00:57:40,357
And I wrote her back and I said,
"That's not the case at all.
787
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:43,794
"You know, you are
one of the good guys."
788
00:57:46,330 --> 00:57:47,532
Yeah, that was a tough letter.
789
00:57:47,565 --> 00:57:51,502
But I couldn't not send it,
if it makes any sense.
790
00:57:51,536 --> 00:57:55,472
I knew I had to say something.
I knew I had to let them know that...
791
00:57:56,574 --> 00:58:03,581
That he was cared for,
that there was love there.
792
00:58:03,614 --> 00:58:07,017
I mean, I went to the wake,
'cause I had to.
793
00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:10,287
They didn't know who
I was at that point.
794
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,290
And I went to give him a big
hug and broke down completely
795
00:58:13,323 --> 00:58:15,292
and then, that was the last...
796
00:58:15,325 --> 00:58:18,663
That was the last words
I've ever spoken with him.
797
00:58:21,632 --> 00:58:24,969
It's just awkward
when you walk around town
798
00:58:25,002 --> 00:58:29,306
and you see the faces that you
see, maybe on TV, of the parents
799
00:58:29,339 --> 00:58:30,975
and it's just...
800
00:58:31,008 --> 00:58:34,812
What's the social norm for that?
801
00:58:37,481 --> 00:58:39,083
What do you say?
802
00:59:19,523 --> 00:59:23,861
Your police officers, your
state troopers, your firefighters,
803
00:59:23,894 --> 00:59:25,329
can't say enough about them,
804
00:59:25,362 --> 00:59:27,998
this amazing local town here.
805
00:59:28,032 --> 00:59:29,867
Thank you so much.
806
00:59:32,569 --> 00:59:34,739
Because of my role in there,
807
00:59:34,772 --> 00:59:39,844
some parents rightfully
feel uncomfortable
808
00:59:39,877 --> 00:59:41,679
because it reminds them of things.
809
00:59:41,712 --> 00:59:42,747
- You doing okay?
- Yes.
810
00:59:42,780 --> 00:59:44,548
Good. I'm glad to see it.
811
00:59:44,581 --> 00:59:46,050
- It's good to see you again.
- You, too.
812
00:59:46,083 --> 00:59:47,584
- It's been a while.
- Yes.
813
00:59:47,618 --> 00:59:50,821
But I always recognize you
when I see you.
814
00:59:50,855 --> 00:59:53,190
- Things are all right?
- Yeah, we're doing okay.
815
00:59:53,223 --> 00:59:56,493
We'll be all right. You know,
we're all in this together.
816
00:59:56,526 --> 00:59:57,762
Well, it's...
817
00:59:57,795 --> 01:00:01,699
You know, worst thing in
the world happened to you.
818
01:00:01,732 --> 01:00:04,201
You can't give up on all of life.
819
01:00:04,234 --> 01:00:06,236
Absolutely.
You know, you're a good man.
820
01:00:06,270 --> 01:00:10,607
I do remember coming upon Dylan.
821
01:00:12,977 --> 01:00:15,646
And the only thing that I remember
822
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,749
very specifically about it
823
01:00:21,185 --> 01:00:23,754
was that his teacher's arm
was around him.
824
01:00:26,490 --> 01:00:29,359
And as odd as it seems,
825
01:00:29,393 --> 01:00:32,830
I got a little comfort knowing
that he wasn't alone.
826
01:00:58,956 --> 01:01:03,260
You just never know where it's gonna
come, what's gonna trigger you
827
01:01:03,293 --> 01:01:10,534
and bring back an emotion
or a sound or a smell.
828
01:01:10,567 --> 01:01:13,871
You never know at what point
you're right back to day one.
829
01:01:15,706 --> 01:01:19,710
And I guess that's something
that's just gonna be with me
830
01:01:20,644 --> 01:01:22,379
for the rest of my life, really.
831
01:01:24,614 --> 01:01:29,319
I had only recently seen a photo
832
01:01:29,353 --> 01:01:34,024
and I suddenly looked at it and
I thought, "Oh, my God. That's me."
833
01:01:34,058 --> 01:01:38,428
And seeing me with my friend holding me.
834
01:01:50,808 --> 01:01:53,377
She just held me for the longest time.
835
01:02:04,054 --> 01:02:07,724
And that's the last memory I
have of being at the firehouse.
836
01:02:09,726 --> 01:02:11,896
I don't remember how I got home.
837
01:02:19,103 --> 01:02:24,041
Even then, we stayed at our
friend's house for a few days
838
01:02:27,044 --> 01:02:29,679
and the cop who had to officially
tell us that Dylan was dead,
839
01:02:29,713 --> 01:02:32,216
they took his photo, writing description
840
01:02:32,249 --> 01:02:34,151
of what he'd been wearing that day.
841
01:02:36,386 --> 01:02:39,589
And they came to the house
at about 1:30 in the morning,
842
01:02:39,623 --> 01:02:42,092
or some ridiculous hour
843
01:02:42,126 --> 01:02:45,129
to confirm to us that he was...
844
01:02:48,866 --> 01:02:52,069
That he was one of them and...
845
01:02:54,604 --> 01:02:58,242
And even then, I still thought
something's gotta be wrong.
846
01:02:58,275 --> 01:03:00,010
This can't be.
847
01:03:09,219 --> 01:03:11,788
This just isn't supposed to happen.
848
01:03:29,139 --> 01:03:33,577
It's funny, I remember when
I saw him in his casket
849
01:03:34,744 --> 01:03:37,347
on my birthday.
850
01:03:44,021 --> 01:03:46,523
I thought that that would be
when I finally realized
851
01:03:46,556 --> 01:03:48,125
that he was dead.
852
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,429
And even then, I couldn't
even really accept it
853
01:03:52,462 --> 01:03:56,266
because that was his body
854
01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:58,502
but that's not D...
855
01:04:00,270 --> 01:04:01,605
When I could...
856
01:04:01,638 --> 01:04:03,307
I was holding his hand and I could see
857
01:04:03,340 --> 01:04:07,277
there was his torn cuticles
from where he bit his nails.
858
01:04:18,622 --> 01:04:20,490
My son was full of life.
859
01:04:23,660 --> 01:04:27,364
Even then, I couldn't... And that's why
I still just can't accept it.
860
01:04:32,069 --> 01:04:35,705
That's why sometimes
traveling is easy for me
861
01:04:35,739 --> 01:04:38,175
'cause it's like
I can imagine he's home.
862
01:04:40,510 --> 01:04:43,380
So, when I come home
from traveling, it's just...
863
01:04:48,018 --> 01:04:50,921
It's having to accept it all over again.
864
01:04:57,794 --> 01:05:01,431
And I don't know how you're supposed
to get over something like this.
865
01:06:05,962 --> 01:06:10,934
You were saying that you
struggle to know what to say.
866
01:06:10,967 --> 01:06:12,869
Sometimes it's exactly the same for me.
867
01:06:12,902 --> 01:06:15,205
Right. Right.
868
01:06:16,073 --> 01:06:18,875
'Cause it is, what do you say,
869
01:06:18,908 --> 01:06:24,914
and how do you put people at ease
870
01:06:24,948 --> 01:06:28,152
and because we're all in this together.
871
01:06:29,486 --> 01:06:32,789
You know how many times
I lay down in bed
872
01:06:32,822 --> 01:06:36,026
and just think of the
unfairness of this whole thing.
873
01:06:37,094 --> 01:06:39,363
Now, I didn't know Dylan and...
874
01:06:40,164 --> 01:06:41,731
And somehow, in the back of my head,
875
01:06:41,765 --> 01:06:44,334
sometimes I feel like
I missed out on something.
876
01:06:46,836 --> 01:06:49,473
Because he was six then, my son,
877
01:06:49,506 --> 01:06:54,311
and when I told him
about Dylan, he got quiet.
878
01:06:56,780 --> 01:07:01,318
He just looked at me. He
goes, "He didn't talk much.
879
01:07:01,351 --> 01:07:03,353
"But he was such a nice boy."
880
01:07:06,456 --> 01:07:07,624
Thanks.
881
01:07:10,427 --> 01:07:13,997
Because I don't really know what
Dylan's classmates thought of him.
882
01:07:14,030 --> 01:07:16,566
- Right.
- Because he was hard to...
883
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,768
He didn't often talk to me
about his classmates
884
01:07:18,802 --> 01:07:20,770
'cause he couldn't really
articulate it very well.
885
01:07:20,804 --> 01:07:22,572
Right.
886
01:07:22,606 --> 01:07:24,841
And I know I've reached out to
you and said that someday...
887
01:07:24,874 --> 01:07:26,110
Yeah.
888
01:07:26,143 --> 01:07:29,012
I want to hear from you
about your son's experience,
889
01:07:29,045 --> 01:07:36,720
because there's a need to know
as much detail as I can about...
890
01:07:36,753 --> 01:07:41,525
About Dylan's last moments,
but I'm not ready for it.
891
01:07:41,558 --> 01:07:42,859
Yeah, I understand that.
892
01:07:42,892 --> 01:07:44,228
I mean, when you think about it,
893
01:07:44,261 --> 01:07:46,863
you could read
all the newspapers you want.
894
01:07:46,896 --> 01:07:50,467
But at the end of the day, there's
only 11 kids that know what happened.
895
01:07:50,500 --> 01:07:51,768
Yeah.
896
01:07:51,801 --> 01:07:55,405
We had made it our point to
remember specifics about that day.
897
01:07:55,439 --> 01:07:57,307
So, we have that information.
898
01:07:57,841 --> 01:07:59,443
Thanks.
899
01:07:59,476 --> 01:08:04,047
Whenever you guys are ready, we'd
be, of course, willing to sit down
900
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,350
and share what we know.
901
01:08:06,850 --> 01:08:08,485
Yeah.
902
01:08:08,518 --> 01:08:10,987
Not today. Please.
903
01:08:11,020 --> 01:08:12,289
- Nope.
- Not today.
904
01:08:12,322 --> 01:08:14,023
- Someday.
- Someday.
905
01:08:14,057 --> 01:08:17,527
I'd like to, but I'm not ready for it.
906
01:08:20,164 --> 01:08:21,665
He was a good boy.
907
01:08:26,270 --> 01:08:27,537
- Thank you.
- I'm sorry.
908
01:08:27,571 --> 01:08:30,874
No, don't... Please, don't apologize.
Don't ever...
909
01:08:30,907 --> 01:08:32,676
Don't ever apologize.
910
01:08:33,843 --> 01:08:35,212
It's okay.
911
01:08:36,213 --> 01:08:38,715
I need to know these things as well.
912
01:08:59,236 --> 01:09:01,538
- How are you, my friend?
- Oh, good to see you.
913
01:09:01,571 --> 01:09:03,207
- Good to see you.
- Thank you for coming up.
914
01:09:07,577 --> 01:09:10,230
You want to grab this, Mark, so I can...
915
01:09:10,231 --> 01:09:11,114
Yeah.
916
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:21,057
At the third annual Daniel
Barden Highland MudFest.
917
01:09:21,090 --> 01:09:24,060
Do you promise
to live life to its fullest?
918
01:09:24,093 --> 01:09:25,462
I do!
919
01:09:25,495 --> 01:09:28,131
Do you promise to
cherish family and friends?
920
01:09:28,164 --> 01:09:29,599
I do!
921
01:09:29,633 --> 01:09:32,636
Do you promise to love,
laugh, and enjoy this moment?
922
01:09:32,669 --> 01:09:33,737
I do!
923
01:09:58,495 --> 01:10:00,797
- Hey.
- Hey. Good luck.
924
01:10:00,830 --> 01:10:02,999
- Thank you.
- Thanks for doing this, guys.
925
01:10:03,032 --> 01:10:04,868
- Thank you.
- Enjoy it.
926
01:10:06,770 --> 01:10:07,937
Now we're talking.
927
01:10:14,811 --> 01:10:17,347
Yay Kyle!
Hey, I'm coming to get you.
928
01:10:17,381 --> 01:10:21,485
Every day I look at Kyle and I think,
"Thank God for miracles."
929
01:10:21,518 --> 01:10:22,519
Nice job.
930
01:10:24,254 --> 01:10:26,956
And I find myself
931
01:10:26,990 --> 01:10:31,961
having to take a breath before
I talk about Kyle in front of them.
932
01:10:34,063 --> 01:10:35,532
Right?
933
01:10:36,266 --> 01:10:37,467
- All good.
- Yeah, all good.
934
01:10:37,501 --> 01:10:39,736
'Cause, I don't want...
935
01:10:39,769 --> 01:10:42,539
I don't want to cause them
any more pain.
936
01:10:46,276 --> 01:10:49,646
Kyle has since taken
to growing his hair long,
937
01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:52,215
which is how Daniel always had his hair.
938
01:10:52,248 --> 01:10:54,884
And Kyle's very attached to his hair.
939
01:10:56,953 --> 01:11:00,757
And I think that's some of his way
of carrying Daniel with him.
940
01:11:07,564 --> 01:11:12,201
I'd like to introduce
my sweet little Natalie.
941
01:11:46,202 --> 01:11:48,905
My parents were saying,
"Write down things,
942
01:11:48,938 --> 01:11:55,044
"because, we're not gonna have memories
of when we were really young,"
943
01:11:55,078 --> 01:11:57,581
'cause I was in fifth grade.
944
01:11:57,614 --> 01:12:00,917
So, I didn't want to forget things.
945
01:12:00,950 --> 01:12:02,852
I didn't want to think about
what happened,
946
01:12:02,886 --> 01:12:04,888
but I didn't want to forget my brother.
947
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:13,262
That would just be awful
to ever be a grownup
948
01:12:13,296 --> 01:12:15,732
and not remember things.
949
01:12:17,867 --> 01:12:19,469
I don't like it.
950
01:12:19,503 --> 01:12:20,737
It's not weird though.
951
01:12:20,770 --> 01:12:23,973
- Like, talking about him, it's just...
- Yeah.
952
01:12:25,475 --> 01:12:27,577
Nobody feels weird about it.
953
01:12:27,611 --> 01:12:30,547
'Cause, it's only weird
if you make it weird.
954
01:12:30,580 --> 01:12:32,432
Yeah, it's just good memories.
955
01:12:32,433 --> 01:12:33,049
Yeah.
956
01:12:34,150 --> 01:12:36,453
Does Kyle talk about Daniel?
957
01:12:36,486 --> 01:12:40,289
Well, not a lot.
Just because...
958
01:12:40,323 --> 01:12:42,692
I think it's more touchy for him.
959
01:12:42,726 --> 01:12:46,996
But, I mean, overall,
I know he has this box
960
01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:50,734
where he keeps a picture of him,
a "What Would Daniel Do?" bracelet.
961
01:12:50,767 --> 01:12:53,136
And I think it's under
his bed or something.
962
01:12:53,169 --> 01:12:55,339
And I think it's cute, how he has that.
963
01:12:55,340 --> 01:12:56,372
Mmm-hmm.
964
01:12:56,406 --> 01:12:58,708
Some things you do to remember people.
965
01:12:58,742 --> 01:13:00,944
- And it's just for you. It's just...
- Yeah.
966
01:13:00,977 --> 01:13:04,514
You don't want anybody else
to know about it or anything.
967
01:13:40,216 --> 01:13:44,854
I keep telling myself,
"We did everything right."
968
01:13:46,322 --> 01:13:50,193
Every single parent who put
their kid on the bus that morning
969
01:13:50,226 --> 01:13:52,462
did everything right.
970
01:13:54,631 --> 01:13:58,067
And those parents
whose children survived,
971
01:13:58,101 --> 01:14:00,403
and it bothers them and it hurts them,
972
01:14:00,436 --> 01:14:03,707
they also did everything right.
973
01:14:07,210 --> 01:14:09,212
And we have to hang on to that.
974
01:14:26,996 --> 01:14:29,065
You know what Devon Pope
is actually doing?
975
01:14:29,098 --> 01:14:31,034
- What?
- He's writing a fan-fiction now.
976
01:14:31,067 --> 01:14:33,937
Nobody in the troop likes Donald Trump,
keep this in mind, Dad.
977
01:14:33,970 --> 01:14:34,971
Okay.
978
01:14:35,004 --> 01:14:36,673
- Nobody in the troop likes him.
- Okay.
979
01:14:36,706 --> 01:14:38,875
But Devon is writing a fan-fiction,
980
01:14:38,908 --> 01:14:43,179
where he is a space emperor
and he has to stop the evil...
981
01:14:43,212 --> 01:14:46,750
I remember my wife
coming to me and saying,
982
01:14:46,783 --> 01:14:50,086
"Would you consider
getting pregnant again?"
983
01:14:50,119 --> 01:14:54,457
And I said,
"I cannot think about that right now."
984
01:14:54,490 --> 01:14:59,328
But, a couple weeks later, I went back
to her with my resounding yes.
985
01:14:59,362 --> 01:15:00,964
I thought it was a great idea.
986
01:15:00,997 --> 01:15:03,833
And the person I was thinking about
987
01:15:03,867 --> 01:15:06,636
wasn't me and it wasn't my wife,
988
01:15:06,670 --> 01:15:10,173
it was our son, our surviving son.
989
01:15:10,206 --> 01:15:12,375
It was very important to us
990
01:15:12,408 --> 01:15:17,380
that he have another foundation
to build on in his life.
991
01:15:21,851 --> 01:15:24,153
There he is with his dwarf hat.
992
01:15:33,262 --> 01:15:38,534
Having his birthday party on
the weekend, for Matty, was a hard day.
993
01:15:42,138 --> 01:15:45,742
When was the last time there was
a first birthday in this house?
994
01:15:51,380 --> 01:15:55,118
I have a certain amount of
envy toward my wife, especially,
995
01:15:55,151 --> 01:15:58,955
who sees Ben all the time in her dreams.
996
01:16:01,057 --> 01:16:05,862
And to people who knew him well,
who see him and talk to him.
997
01:16:13,336 --> 01:16:14,671
What was that?
998
01:16:15,238 --> 01:16:17,040
Look, here we go.
999
01:16:17,073 --> 01:16:19,308
Now we're going to go the other way.
You ready?
1000
01:16:19,342 --> 01:16:21,177
There they come.
1001
01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:52,075
How could someone who was in
my life for six years suddenly be gone?
1002
01:16:54,443 --> 01:16:57,313
It's impossible to understand.
1003
01:17:04,387 --> 01:17:06,923
But he was here.
1004
01:17:08,357 --> 01:17:10,827
He did exist.
1005
01:17:10,860 --> 01:17:16,065
And he has a legacy that
I have to fulfill for him.
1006
01:17:20,503 --> 01:17:23,072
And that I will fulfill for him.
1007
01:17:28,945 --> 01:17:30,980
Gun violence, for me, was always
1008
01:17:31,014 --> 01:17:33,382
just something that I saw in the news.
1009
01:17:33,416 --> 01:17:37,787
And I certainly never thought it
would impact me or my community.
1010
01:17:39,588 --> 01:17:41,057
And then it did.
1011
01:17:43,026 --> 01:17:45,695
Like the Hockleys, we moved to Newtown
1012
01:17:45,729 --> 01:17:48,231
for the community and the schools.
1013
01:17:48,264 --> 01:17:50,366
My wife, Jackie, is a school teacher.
1014
01:17:53,169 --> 01:17:54,037
Yeah, cool.
1015
01:17:54,070 --> 01:17:55,438
And when we're coming in to land,
1016
01:17:55,471 --> 01:17:57,540
important thing is to get
the feet up and front, okay?
1017
01:17:57,573 --> 01:17:58,507
Okay.
1018
01:17:58,541 --> 01:17:59,776
Might be coming a little fast for you.
1019
01:17:59,809 --> 01:18:02,511
Just slide along.
That's how easy it is.
1020
01:18:02,545 --> 01:18:04,981
- Do you remember that?
- I do. I do.
1021
01:18:15,825 --> 01:18:18,394
I don't want closure.
1022
01:18:18,427 --> 01:18:21,731
I mean, how could I ever possibly
say, "Okay, I'm over this now."
1023
01:18:21,765 --> 01:18:23,733
I mean, there is no closure.
1024
01:18:26,602 --> 01:18:33,242
I had my first dream,
real vivid dream that this happened.
1025
01:18:33,276 --> 01:18:37,146
But somehow, he got out.
He emerged and he was okay.
1026
01:18:40,049 --> 01:18:42,085
And I just grabbed him
and I held him to me.
1027
01:18:42,118 --> 01:18:45,454
And I was just wailing and shrieking,
1028
01:18:45,488 --> 01:18:49,025
crying in joy that he was back.
80834
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