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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:48,476 --> 00:01:50,444 Dial 911. What's the location of your emergency? 2 00:01:50,478 --> 00:01:52,846 Sandy Hook Elementary School, 12 Dickenson Drive. 3 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,482 Okay, and what's going on down there? 4 00:01:54,515 --> 00:01:57,618 I believe there's shooting at the front glass. 5 00:01:57,651 --> 00:01:58,719 - Okay. - Something's going on. 6 00:01:58,752 --> 00:02:00,221 I want you to take cover. 7 00:02:00,254 --> 00:02:02,623 Jen, get everybody you can going down there. 8 00:02:02,656 --> 00:02:04,091 It's still happening. 9 00:02:04,124 --> 00:02:05,659 911, State Police... 10 00:02:05,693 --> 00:02:07,195 There's a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, 11 00:02:07,228 --> 00:02:09,730 I can hear shooting outside. 12 00:02:13,634 --> 00:02:15,569 Get off 10, take a left. 13 00:02:15,603 --> 00:02:18,038 Go straight through the light at the bottom of the hill 14 00:02:18,071 --> 00:02:19,673 and you're going to see it on your right. 15 00:02:19,707 --> 00:02:21,209 State Police Emergency. 16 00:02:21,242 --> 00:02:22,743 Is this the shooting in Newtown? 17 00:02:22,776 --> 00:02:24,345 - Yes, it is. Sandy Hook School. - Okay. 18 00:02:24,378 --> 00:02:25,813 Do you have anybody with you right now? 19 00:02:25,846 --> 00:02:27,648 Do you have any children with you? 20 00:02:27,681 --> 00:02:30,050 I have no children. I have five adults and one who's been shot twice. 21 00:02:30,083 --> 00:02:31,907 One who's been shot twice, 22 00:02:31,908 --> 00:02:33,687 do you know how to administer first aid? 23 00:02:33,721 --> 00:02:35,189 No. No. 24 00:02:35,223 --> 00:02:36,899 Can you put pressure on her wounds? 25 00:02:36,900 --> 00:02:37,458 No. 26 00:02:37,491 --> 00:02:39,827 You can't? What's going on? Talk to me. 27 00:02:39,860 --> 00:02:42,963 He's fucking right outside the door. I don't want to move. 28 00:02:42,996 --> 00:02:45,233 Please, Jesus. Please, Jesus. 29 00:02:45,266 --> 00:02:47,100 Okay. No, that's okay. 30 00:02:47,134 --> 00:02:48,902 Please, Jesus. 31 00:02:48,936 --> 00:02:50,337 Just try to stay calm, okay? All right? 32 00:02:50,338 --> 00:02:50,804 Please, Jesus. 33 00:02:50,838 --> 00:02:53,907 Please, Jesus. Please, Jesus. 34 00:02:53,941 --> 00:02:55,609 - Please, Jesus. - Okay. All right. 35 00:02:55,643 --> 00:02:57,177 You're going to be all right. 36 00:02:59,813 --> 00:03:03,317 My brother-in-law called me and said, "What's going on?" 37 00:03:03,351 --> 00:03:08,822 And I said, "I can't talk to you now. I have to... 38 00:03:09,890 --> 00:03:12,159 "There're some kids on my lawn. 39 00:03:12,192 --> 00:03:14,962 "I don't know why they're there." 40 00:03:14,995 --> 00:03:19,467 I walked up to them and they looked horrible. 41 00:03:22,135 --> 00:03:24,705 They looked horrible. 42 00:03:24,738 --> 00:03:26,507 They were out of breath. 43 00:03:28,008 --> 00:03:30,344 I could tell they had been crying, 44 00:03:30,378 --> 00:03:33,281 but they were quiet in their... 45 00:03:33,314 --> 00:03:35,516 They were quiet in their... 46 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:40,421 Abject fear and terror. 47 00:03:40,454 --> 00:03:43,557 And then the two boys just start talking. 48 00:03:43,591 --> 00:03:48,962 They start describing... Describing what had happened. 49 00:03:48,996 --> 00:03:52,333 "Oh, he had a big gun and a small gun." 50 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:56,169 They just kept exclaiming. 51 00:03:56,203 --> 00:03:58,038 "We can't go back! 52 00:03:58,071 --> 00:03:59,973 "We can't go back to that school 53 00:04:00,007 --> 00:04:02,410 "'cause we don't have a teacher!" 54 00:04:16,524 --> 00:04:19,192 Mahmun told me he heard... 55 00:04:43,584 --> 00:04:45,453 Do you see anything or hear anything more? 56 00:04:45,486 --> 00:04:46,687 I keep hearing shooting. 57 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,255 - I keep hearing popping. - Okay. 58 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:49,957 Do you have your door barricaded? 59 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:51,659 No, I'm on the floor. 60 00:04:51,692 --> 00:04:53,394 Okay. Is there a way that you've locked the door? 61 00:04:53,427 --> 00:04:54,962 No, there's no lock here. 62 00:04:54,995 --> 00:04:56,229 The person's in the office. 63 00:04:56,263 --> 00:04:57,431 He's in the office? 64 00:04:57,465 --> 00:05:00,300 I can hear it on the loudspeaker, yeah. 65 00:05:00,334 --> 00:05:07,475 I just sat with my class and we listened to 154 shots 66 00:05:07,508 --> 00:05:09,643 ringing through the loudspeaker. 67 00:05:09,677 --> 00:05:12,946 There's still shooting going on. Please! 68 00:05:12,980 --> 00:05:14,615 A couple of kids were laughing. 69 00:05:14,648 --> 00:05:17,050 There was like a strange laugh. 70 00:05:17,084 --> 00:05:18,452 They didn't know what was going on. 71 00:05:18,486 --> 00:05:21,589 And one kid kept scooching away. 72 00:05:21,622 --> 00:05:23,190 And like I said, I just had this instinct. 73 00:05:23,223 --> 00:05:24,291 I just wanted everybody together. 74 00:05:24,324 --> 00:05:25,959 And I kept saying, "Come over here! Come over here!" 75 00:05:25,993 --> 00:05:27,661 Is anyone hurt? Do you see anyone... 76 00:05:27,695 --> 00:05:28,929 We don't know. We don't know. 77 00:05:28,962 --> 00:05:30,263 But we smell fire from the gunshots. 78 00:05:30,297 --> 00:05:31,865 Did you see the shooter? 79 00:05:31,899 --> 00:05:34,768 I could see, through the crack in the back of my desk, 80 00:05:34,802 --> 00:05:38,839 him standing right at my doorway, barely 20 feet away, if that. 81 00:05:38,872 --> 00:05:40,874 He's still in the building. 82 00:05:40,908 --> 00:05:44,311 I mean, the shooting went on for what seemed like forever. 83 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:47,415 We just kept saying, "Stop, stop!" 84 00:05:47,448 --> 00:05:49,483 You know? And I mean... 85 00:05:50,951 --> 00:05:52,386 And then it stopped. 86 00:05:52,420 --> 00:05:52,987 Yes. 87 00:05:52,989 --> 00:05:54,689 What do you hear right now? 88 00:05:54,722 --> 00:05:56,924 It's... Now it's silent. 89 00:05:58,792 --> 00:06:00,861 Thank you. The police officers just came in. 90 00:06:00,894 --> 00:06:02,287 Are there policemen there? 91 00:06:02,289 --> 00:06:02,831 Yes. 92 00:06:02,863 --> 00:06:03,697 Okay. 93 00:06:03,731 --> 00:06:05,399 I remember getting into that room. 94 00:06:05,433 --> 00:06:06,900 All right. You guys are okay? 95 00:06:06,934 --> 00:06:10,170 I was the police officer she was referring to. 96 00:06:10,203 --> 00:06:14,107 I don't think that any of us that were in there feel that 97 00:06:14,141 --> 00:06:19,547 anybody needs to know specifically what we saw. 98 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:22,816 Emotionally, 99 00:06:24,017 --> 00:06:27,988 I think the world needs to know to understand it. 100 00:06:28,956 --> 00:06:31,024 I don't think they need... 101 00:06:33,761 --> 00:06:37,431 To know, graphically, what occurred in there. 102 00:06:42,536 --> 00:06:45,439 Phone came at about 20 minutes before 10:00 this morning 103 00:06:45,473 --> 00:06:47,741 of a shooting. 104 00:06:47,775 --> 00:06:51,111 It's believed there was one shooter, a male, who is now dead. 105 00:06:51,144 --> 00:06:54,314 And the reports we're getting from law enforcement is that, 106 00:06:54,347 --> 00:06:59,419 of the 26 dead, most are children. 107 00:08:01,481 --> 00:08:02,950 All right, it's 20 after 12:00. 108 00:08:02,983 --> 00:08:05,886 We just picked up Natalie early at school. 109 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:07,688 Sweet Pea's getting all dressed and ready. 110 00:08:07,721 --> 00:08:09,422 We're going to go pick up James and then 111 00:08:09,456 --> 00:08:11,959 we're gonna go to Daniel's concert. 112 00:08:15,596 --> 00:08:16,797 Hi. 113 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:20,200 William. 114 00:08:38,451 --> 00:08:40,453 - That was great. - Thank you. 115 00:08:40,487 --> 00:08:42,455 What a concert. 116 00:08:42,489 --> 00:08:44,825 I think James is looking for a hug. 117 00:09:13,854 --> 00:09:16,556 I look at these pictures and it's like it's still then. 118 00:09:16,590 --> 00:09:18,025 Everything is the way it should be. 119 00:09:18,058 --> 00:09:20,060 Everything looks the way it should be. 120 00:09:22,395 --> 00:09:28,869 This was Sunday, December 9th of 2012. 121 00:09:30,203 --> 00:09:33,340 We were out at the tree farm getting our tree. 122 00:09:33,373 --> 00:09:38,712 So, this is kind of like the last few days of life as we knew it. 123 00:09:41,048 --> 00:09:43,884 They were all taking turns cutting down the tree. 124 00:09:43,917 --> 00:09:45,653 And, of course, little Daniel was making sure 125 00:09:45,686 --> 00:09:48,622 everybody had their fair time. 126 00:09:55,228 --> 00:09:57,197 So, the bus would come down to the corner. 127 00:09:57,230 --> 00:09:59,199 Daniel would wait here and he would race. 128 00:09:59,232 --> 00:10:01,334 Mr. Wheeler would stop halfway down the block here. 129 00:10:01,368 --> 00:10:05,839 And... And rev the engine. And Daniel would race him. 130 00:10:17,084 --> 00:10:19,887 I still dread that every day I live, 131 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,924 I'm one day farther away from my life with Daniel. 132 00:10:29,129 --> 00:10:31,832 I didn't wanna take the clothes out of his drawer. 133 00:10:31,865 --> 00:10:33,366 I didn't want to touch anything, 134 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,003 I wanted to leave everything just the way it was. 135 00:10:37,070 --> 00:10:38,806 So, Jackie actually had her sisters, 136 00:10:38,839 --> 00:10:40,841 while we were away one weekend, 137 00:10:40,874 --> 00:10:43,143 clean out all the drawers. 138 00:10:43,176 --> 00:10:46,613 I still have little secrets stashed around. 139 00:10:46,646 --> 00:10:49,082 He used to wear this old yellow football helmet 140 00:10:49,116 --> 00:10:53,253 when he'd ride in the little seat on the back of my bicycle. 141 00:10:54,087 --> 00:10:55,723 And I have that in the garage 142 00:10:55,756 --> 00:10:59,392 and it still has some beautiful little long, blonde hairs of his in it. 143 00:11:00,660 --> 00:11:02,763 I'll keep that forever. 144 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:13,974 I was so intimately connected to every little nuance of his life. 145 00:11:14,007 --> 00:11:20,881 But there was this significant gap at the end of his little life 146 00:11:20,914 --> 00:11:23,050 that I knew nothing about. 147 00:11:27,354 --> 00:11:31,024 And I still have this need 148 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,062 to know what he experienced. 149 00:11:37,597 --> 00:11:41,301 And, I guess, you can only try to imagine 150 00:11:43,070 --> 00:11:46,173 how unbelievably difficult and challenging that is, 151 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,009 to try to interpret 152 00:11:51,211 --> 00:11:53,747 what your 7-year-old experienced 153 00:11:56,249 --> 00:11:58,051 as he was being murdered 154 00:12:00,187 --> 00:12:04,457 by a gunman in his first grade classroom. 155 00:12:21,541 --> 00:12:24,144 It's Christmas Eve morning, 156 00:12:24,177 --> 00:12:26,814 and Natalie's on her way delivering her gifts. 157 00:12:27,347 --> 00:12:29,316 She and Daniel. 158 00:12:29,349 --> 00:12:32,585 He's walking down to the Malin's now. 159 00:12:32,619 --> 00:12:34,287 Make sure you tell them "Merry Christmas." 160 00:12:34,321 --> 00:12:35,889 Yes, we know. 161 00:12:39,827 --> 00:12:44,231 The Bardens and our kids were, like, interchangeable. 162 00:12:44,264 --> 00:12:47,935 We had met the Bardens in our own yard. 163 00:12:48,668 --> 00:12:52,572 And it was like a godsend. 164 00:12:52,605 --> 00:12:54,241 It was amazing to think that 165 00:12:54,274 --> 00:12:58,078 there was this family that moved in that had three children, 166 00:12:58,111 --> 00:13:00,313 the same ages as our kids, 167 00:13:00,347 --> 00:13:04,051 boy-girl-boy, and we had boy-girl-boy, 168 00:13:04,084 --> 00:13:07,520 and our kids took to each other 169 00:13:07,554 --> 00:13:11,191 like they had known each other their whole lives. 170 00:13:11,224 --> 00:13:15,595 And Kyle and Daniel were like two peas in a pod together. 171 00:13:15,628 --> 00:13:20,567 They were just as comfortable at my house as they were at their house. 172 00:13:22,535 --> 00:13:24,271 And Mark was my go-to 173 00:13:24,304 --> 00:13:28,541 because he was home mostly during the day, 174 00:13:28,575 --> 00:13:31,144 I would get a call, "All right, I'll take the girls, 175 00:13:31,178 --> 00:13:35,015 "you wanna take the boys or send all three kids up." 176 00:13:38,886 --> 00:13:40,587 All right, now what? What's next? 177 00:13:40,620 --> 00:13:43,423 Stop two, Malin house. 178 00:13:43,456 --> 00:13:48,761 We developed this Friday night routine... 179 00:13:48,795 --> 00:13:51,564 I'll probably cry. 180 00:13:51,598 --> 00:13:55,168 Which was something that we all looked forward to, 181 00:13:55,202 --> 00:13:57,404 if I could speak for everybody. 182 00:13:58,805 --> 00:14:01,241 It would be a phone call early Friday morning, 183 00:14:01,274 --> 00:14:03,210 "Are you guys free?" "Yeah, we're free." 184 00:14:03,243 --> 00:14:05,578 "I'll bring the dessert, you get the pizza, 185 00:14:05,612 --> 00:14:09,917 "and we'll see you later after work and after school." 186 00:14:09,950 --> 00:14:13,020 And so, every Friday night, we would get together. 187 00:14:14,087 --> 00:14:18,225 And we would have pizza. 188 00:14:21,228 --> 00:14:26,099 It was really a good life. 189 00:14:35,175 --> 00:14:37,010 I have to say, Daniel's funeral was 190 00:14:37,044 --> 00:14:41,448 kind of a hazy memory out of a weird dream, for me. 191 00:14:45,185 --> 00:14:50,490 But we did manage to attend quite a few of the other children's funerals, 192 00:14:50,523 --> 00:14:55,095 and witnessed Father Bob saying funeral mass after funeral mass 193 00:14:55,128 --> 00:14:59,066 for 6-year-olds and 7-year-olds. 194 00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:10,910 I can't answer the questions. 195 00:15:11,945 --> 00:15:15,482 I don't know how this could have happened. 196 00:15:15,515 --> 00:15:20,520 Shoots open a window, reaches in and pushes open a door, 197 00:15:21,388 --> 00:15:23,023 destroys lives. 198 00:15:28,461 --> 00:15:30,730 I don't think a community can ever be prepared, 199 00:15:30,763 --> 00:15:34,968 especially a small town, can ever be prepared for something like this. 200 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:37,170 So, it's fearful. 201 00:15:37,204 --> 00:15:39,973 It's really fearful that people's lives 202 00:15:40,007 --> 00:15:42,275 can be so disrupted so quickly. 203 00:15:42,309 --> 00:15:45,078 Forever. There's no making up for this. 204 00:15:49,882 --> 00:15:52,519 It just... The foundation got cracked. 205 00:15:52,552 --> 00:15:56,656 And everybody's not certain how wide that crack is going to get. 206 00:16:15,542 --> 00:16:17,844 On that day, I was in physics class. 207 00:16:17,877 --> 00:16:21,914 And all of a sudden, I remember my Principal, Mr. Dumet 208 00:16:21,948 --> 00:16:24,117 came on the loudspeaker and said, 209 00:16:24,151 --> 00:16:27,287 "Everybody must go into lockdown. This is not a drill." 210 00:16:28,888 --> 00:16:30,490 I was with one of my friends 211 00:16:30,523 --> 00:16:35,662 and her mom was a teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary School, as well. 212 00:16:35,695 --> 00:16:37,164 And so, I went over to her 213 00:16:37,197 --> 00:16:41,801 and she had already looked on her phone and seen what was happening, too. 214 00:16:41,834 --> 00:16:44,937 And we sat there for a long time, 215 00:16:44,971 --> 00:16:47,240 waiting to get the text about our moms. 216 00:16:49,642 --> 00:16:52,912 There was a lot of shouting right outside my door. 217 00:16:52,945 --> 00:16:57,517 "Newtown Police!" Banging on the door. "Get Newtown Police!" 218 00:16:57,550 --> 00:17:02,555 I opened the door and the kids just ran, they just scattered. 219 00:17:02,589 --> 00:17:05,758 Shortly thereafter, I spoke to my husband 220 00:17:05,792 --> 00:17:08,761 and I remember saying something like, "It's bad, right? 221 00:17:08,795 --> 00:17:11,298 "Don't tell me, but it's bad." 222 00:17:11,331 --> 00:17:15,368 And he said, "They don't know yet. 223 00:17:15,402 --> 00:17:17,870 "They just don't really know yet." 224 00:17:17,904 --> 00:17:20,607 And then, the next time I talked to him, 225 00:17:22,041 --> 00:17:25,278 he was crying on the phone. 226 00:17:25,312 --> 00:17:30,083 He said, "It's really bad. There are a lot of kids dead." 227 00:17:33,686 --> 00:17:36,956 When we got in the car with my mom, 228 00:17:36,989 --> 00:17:39,392 she just said, "I love you and I'm okay. 229 00:17:39,426 --> 00:17:41,661 "But a lot of people aren't. 230 00:17:41,694 --> 00:17:44,164 "I think a lot of my friends aren't." 231 00:17:47,534 --> 00:17:51,704 Is there a day that I don't think about it? 232 00:17:51,738 --> 00:17:54,407 I don't think there's an hour or couple of hours 233 00:17:54,441 --> 00:17:57,744 I'm not thinking of something about it. 234 00:17:59,379 --> 00:18:01,614 When I went back to work, 235 00:18:01,648 --> 00:18:05,452 I know the first two days, I was not there. 236 00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:11,158 I was working, I wasn't there. 237 00:18:11,191 --> 00:18:13,126 How did you get through your days? 238 00:18:14,494 --> 00:18:15,995 The kids. 239 00:18:16,028 --> 00:18:17,764 The kids at the school. 240 00:18:19,065 --> 00:18:22,169 The laughing, smiling. 241 00:18:31,744 --> 00:18:36,516 It was the elephant in the room for a long time. 242 00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:40,453 Some kids wanted to talk about it, some kids didn't. 243 00:18:40,487 --> 00:18:43,523 My students who had Miss Soto 244 00:18:44,724 --> 00:18:46,359 were devastated. 245 00:18:46,393 --> 00:18:51,998 And they would look up at me every day and say, 246 00:18:52,031 --> 00:18:54,601 "I miss Miss Soto." 247 00:18:54,634 --> 00:18:57,670 And I was looking for something to say to that. 248 00:18:57,704 --> 00:18:59,206 What do you say to that? 249 00:18:59,239 --> 00:19:02,175 And I would just hug them. 250 00:19:05,378 --> 00:19:08,448 The teachers, the staff, 251 00:19:09,482 --> 00:19:12,852 we understand each other. 252 00:19:15,087 --> 00:19:18,758 We don't even have to speak, and we know. 253 00:19:18,791 --> 00:19:22,495 People came back to the school and I felt like, 254 00:19:22,529 --> 00:19:24,163 "There's no way I can go back. 255 00:19:24,197 --> 00:19:26,766 "There's no way I can put anything in order." 256 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:30,203 You know, I wanted to be there for the kids. 257 00:19:30,237 --> 00:19:33,206 But I was able to be there because of the kids. 258 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,974 And I would get up in the morning and go, 259 00:19:35,007 --> 00:19:36,743 "Oh, my God. I don't wanna go." 260 00:19:36,776 --> 00:19:38,445 But then I'd go, 261 00:19:38,478 --> 00:19:42,382 "But if the kids can be there, how could I not be there?" 262 00:19:42,415 --> 00:19:45,885 We were all still in shock. 263 00:19:45,918 --> 00:19:48,255 We had a spreadsheet for 26 264 00:19:48,288 --> 00:19:51,658 - wakes and funerals... - That's crazy. 265 00:19:51,691 --> 00:19:53,826 - Two or three a day. - Yup. I was... 266 00:19:53,860 --> 00:19:55,862 We really had to put aside the grieving, 267 00:19:55,895 --> 00:19:58,965 not just for the kids, but for the adults. 268 00:19:58,998 --> 00:20:02,769 I mean, how do you grieve for 26 people all at the same time? 269 00:20:02,802 --> 00:20:05,104 The story that I always think about is 270 00:20:05,137 --> 00:20:08,341 Dawn and Mary and their colleagues 271 00:20:08,375 --> 00:20:12,712 who were all together in a conference room, 272 00:20:12,745 --> 00:20:14,814 meeting with a parent. 273 00:20:14,847 --> 00:20:19,085 And Dawn's immediate reaction, to get up and go 274 00:20:19,118 --> 00:20:23,823 running out in the hallway, charging like a bull, all 5-feet of her. 275 00:20:23,856 --> 00:20:26,959 I know from my conversations with her family that... 276 00:20:26,993 --> 00:20:28,795 It was evident. 277 00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:33,400 They could tell afterwards by the way 278 00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:35,502 her body had taken the bullets 279 00:20:35,535 --> 00:20:38,871 that had killed her, that she was lunging at him. 280 00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:43,543 And that just says exactly the kind of woman she was. 281 00:20:43,576 --> 00:20:46,112 To go after a guy like she was gonna take him down 282 00:20:46,145 --> 00:20:50,249 who was shooting his AR-15 at her. 283 00:20:50,283 --> 00:20:53,762 Still, days I go, "It really happened." 284 00:20:53,763 --> 00:20:54,921 Yeah. 285 00:20:54,954 --> 00:20:56,923 "This really happened." 286 00:20:56,956 --> 00:20:59,125 And, I don't know if you guys feel the same way, 287 00:20:59,158 --> 00:21:01,861 but that is the new point in my life. 288 00:21:01,894 --> 00:21:06,333 Things either happened before 12/14 or after 12/14. 289 00:21:06,366 --> 00:21:11,971 But it's a very different life now. 290 00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:18,945 Is it ever gonna stop? 291 00:21:23,383 --> 00:21:24,984 I don't know. 292 00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:45,572 What is it? 293 00:21:45,605 --> 00:21:48,107 - Forever and ever. - Yeah. 294 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:51,944 Four and "ever." 295 00:21:54,347 --> 00:21:57,684 The hardest moments were immediate. 296 00:21:58,885 --> 00:22:03,956 Within hours, my surviving son expressed fear. 297 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:05,492 And what does a father say? 298 00:22:05,525 --> 00:22:08,661 What does every father in the world say? 299 00:22:08,695 --> 00:22:11,631 "Don't worry. It's gonna be okay." 300 00:22:13,966 --> 00:22:20,106 And his immediate response was, as you might imagine, 301 00:22:21,173 --> 00:22:24,076 "That's what you said to Ben." 302 00:22:28,648 --> 00:22:32,819 Ben, that's me. See the resemblance? 303 00:22:32,852 --> 00:22:36,789 That's Ben, that's me. My dad and Ben. 304 00:22:37,924 --> 00:22:39,392 So amazing. 305 00:22:42,895 --> 00:22:45,798 My brain says, "I just wanna keep talking about Ben. 306 00:22:45,832 --> 00:22:48,334 - "Can I keep taking about Ben?" - Right. 307 00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:50,302 I wanna talk about Ben all the time 308 00:22:50,336 --> 00:22:52,439 because I want him to stay alive. 309 00:22:52,472 --> 00:22:54,807 Right. Right. 310 00:22:54,841 --> 00:22:59,646 And people ask us about Nate and Matty, which is wonderful. 311 00:23:00,847 --> 00:23:03,249 But now I have started signing my cards, 312 00:23:03,282 --> 00:23:08,054 "Love, David, Francine, Nate, Maddie and Ben's spirit." 313 00:23:08,087 --> 00:23:09,489 Because if I don't write that, 314 00:23:09,522 --> 00:23:12,692 I feel like people are going to forget him. 315 00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:15,995 I was looking at a letter to the families recently, 316 00:23:16,028 --> 00:23:21,300 and it was... Individually, they were naming every victim. 317 00:23:21,333 --> 00:23:25,838 And my brain said, "Well, maybe his name won't be on the list. 318 00:23:26,706 --> 00:23:28,575 "And maybe he'll just be alive." 319 00:23:28,608 --> 00:23:30,843 You know, these crazy things. 320 00:23:30,877 --> 00:23:32,044 I'm still there. 321 00:23:33,179 --> 00:23:35,615 Oh, hi, good to see you. 322 00:23:35,648 --> 00:23:38,818 Hi, welcome to the Ben Wheeler Show. 323 00:23:38,851 --> 00:23:42,321 Today, the tornadoes are coming and the elevator... 324 00:23:42,354 --> 00:23:44,691 Benny was a challenge. 325 00:23:44,724 --> 00:23:47,193 A 6-year-old boy with that much energy. 326 00:23:48,928 --> 00:23:52,965 Dinner table was so hard because he was just all over the place. 327 00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:58,070 Oh, now, to go and have some popsicles. Bye. 328 00:23:59,506 --> 00:24:01,073 Francine's uncle took this amazing picture of him 329 00:24:01,107 --> 00:24:03,476 when he was three or four. It's up in the living room. 330 00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:07,980 He's jumping into a puddle and he's above the air. 331 00:24:08,014 --> 00:24:12,118 And her uncle titled it "Flying Boy." 332 00:24:12,151 --> 00:24:13,820 And that's who he was. 333 00:24:13,853 --> 00:24:15,655 He was so rarely connected to the earth. 334 00:24:15,688 --> 00:24:19,759 He was just... Nothing ever moved fast enough for him. 335 00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:22,028 If he got five stickers in a row, 336 00:24:22,061 --> 00:24:24,697 he would get some kind of positive reinforcement. 337 00:24:24,731 --> 00:24:27,667 Look at this, "Gentle body, no licking, no biting." 338 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:29,468 Great table manners. 339 00:24:29,502 --> 00:24:31,203 Not so good. 340 00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:33,439 You know, the way everyone does, 341 00:24:33,472 --> 00:24:35,041 you mark your kid's height on the wall. 342 00:24:35,074 --> 00:24:38,277 This is Nate's here and Ben is here. 343 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:43,015 Starting in January of '09 344 00:24:43,049 --> 00:24:49,722 and then in November of 2012, he was here. 345 00:24:49,756 --> 00:24:53,960 And I don't remember exactly when Nate wrote this, 346 00:24:53,993 --> 00:24:55,828 but he came down here on his own. 347 00:24:55,862 --> 00:24:57,864 I think it wasn't prompted in any way. 348 00:25:04,771 --> 00:25:06,706 We're all terrified of forgetting 349 00:25:06,739 --> 00:25:08,775 what he looked like, what he sounded like. 350 00:25:10,376 --> 00:25:13,012 So I will go back to a video 351 00:25:13,045 --> 00:25:18,117 or a picture or something just to have him back. 352 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:20,312 I have these memories, I have these pictures, 353 00:26:20,346 --> 00:26:23,115 I have hair and teeth. 354 00:26:23,149 --> 00:26:26,052 And yet, you go through these crazy motions of like, 355 00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:28,621 "Am I just dreaming all of this?" 356 00:26:36,195 --> 00:26:40,667 I still keep expecting him to be there, but have I just gone insane? 357 00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:44,370 Is this real? Did he even ever exist? 358 00:27:11,864 --> 00:27:17,103 This is most of the stuff that's been... 359 00:27:19,405 --> 00:27:23,409 I don't even know how many thousands of letters 360 00:27:23,442 --> 00:27:26,412 and gifts and portraits. 361 00:27:27,747 --> 00:27:29,849 So many of them have never been opened 362 00:27:29,882 --> 00:27:32,084 'cause I just can't do that yet. 363 00:27:36,322 --> 00:27:38,190 I'm gonna be... 364 00:27:38,224 --> 00:27:39,759 I love Luigi. 365 00:27:39,792 --> 00:27:42,128 - No, you're catching up! - Sugar. 366 00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:45,431 Jake was in third grade at the time of the shooting. 367 00:27:45,464 --> 00:27:47,399 He was at school that day. 368 00:27:48,968 --> 00:27:52,805 He describes 12/14 as the day hell came to his school. 369 00:27:54,741 --> 00:28:00,412 He has gone through cycles of grief the same as any adult. 370 00:28:00,446 --> 00:28:05,617 And we went through a period where he didn't want to talk about Dylan. 371 00:28:05,651 --> 00:28:07,419 He didn't want us to mention his name, 372 00:28:07,453 --> 00:28:11,023 he wanted us to take down all the photos of Dylan in the house. 373 00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:17,797 Lights always have to be on now. 374 00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:19,732 He's 10 now, and you get to the point 375 00:28:19,766 --> 00:28:22,434 where your imagination of monsters under the bed, 376 00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:25,304 and he's seen the real monsters unfortunately. 377 00:28:33,780 --> 00:28:36,615 Good evening. 378 00:28:36,648 --> 00:28:43,022 We lost our son, Benjamin, the morning of December 14th 379 00:28:45,257 --> 00:28:51,463 to an unstable, suicidal individual 380 00:28:51,497 --> 00:28:58,070 who had access to a weapon that has no place in a home. 381 00:29:00,106 --> 00:29:02,074 Right now, 382 00:29:02,108 --> 00:29:04,877 professionals in every area pertaining to this crime, 383 00:29:04,911 --> 00:29:07,679 from mental health to parenting to school safety, 384 00:29:07,713 --> 00:29:13,085 are unable to connect the necessary dots 385 00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:16,255 to prevent this from happening again. 386 00:29:16,288 --> 00:29:19,058 When I look at this event, I see these dominoes, 387 00:29:19,091 --> 00:29:21,660 each of them very specific, 388 00:29:21,693 --> 00:29:23,395 that had to line up that way that morning 389 00:29:23,429 --> 00:29:26,598 for things to happen the way they did here. 390 00:29:26,632 --> 00:29:29,635 And when I look at that, all I see 391 00:29:29,668 --> 00:29:31,904 are the spaces in between 392 00:29:31,938 --> 00:29:37,043 where somebody, somewhere along the way, 393 00:29:37,076 --> 00:29:41,680 could have stopped the next domino from falling. 394 00:29:41,713 --> 00:29:46,752 The liberty of any person to own a military-style assault weapon 395 00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:48,087 and a high capacity magazine 396 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,291 and keep them in their home is second 397 00:29:52,324 --> 00:29:57,997 to the right of my son to his life. 398 00:29:59,765 --> 00:30:02,001 His life. 399 00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:06,272 Let's honor the founding documents 400 00:30:06,305 --> 00:30:08,875 and get our priorities straight. 401 00:30:10,877 --> 00:30:12,411 Thank you. 402 00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:18,650 What happened to our children 403 00:30:18,684 --> 00:30:23,856 was transforming in ways you can never anticipate. 404 00:30:25,191 --> 00:30:29,328 And there is an immediate human desire 405 00:30:32,364 --> 00:30:37,269 to protect the rest of the world from having to go through this. 406 00:30:38,037 --> 00:30:40,306 My name is Laurie Veillette. 407 00:30:40,339 --> 00:30:44,010 I am a volunteer EMT for Newtown Volunteer Ambulance Corps, 408 00:30:44,043 --> 00:30:46,012 and I staff every Friday. 409 00:30:47,213 --> 00:30:48,981 In the early morning of December 14th... 410 00:30:49,015 --> 00:30:51,150 We had no idea there was a shooting. 411 00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:53,385 It was never... We were staging. 412 00:30:53,419 --> 00:30:56,455 I thought it might have been a domestic. 413 00:30:56,488 --> 00:31:01,627 And a woman was given to us and I was so happy to see her 414 00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:06,732 because she was injured, but not life-threatening at all. 415 00:31:06,765 --> 00:31:09,601 And I thought, "Okay, this is it. This is great. I mean, 416 00:31:09,635 --> 00:31:12,371 "I saw all the police go in, I don't know exactly what's going on, 417 00:31:12,404 --> 00:31:16,342 "but here's this patient who's gonna make it. This is good." 418 00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:18,244 We load her up. 419 00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:22,114 Great. And I'm in the back, ready to rock and roll, 420 00:31:22,148 --> 00:31:27,053 and the door swings back open and there's a paramedic with... 421 00:31:40,399 --> 00:31:43,102 And that just changed everything. 422 00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:46,105 And, um... 423 00:31:48,107 --> 00:31:51,944 And then to know that that was just one of many was... 424 00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:56,949 Was disgusting, was horrible. 425 00:32:01,620 --> 00:32:03,355 But, 426 00:32:03,389 --> 00:32:05,657 that's what a tragedy is, I guess. 427 00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:10,629 Unexpected, absolute horribleness. 428 00:32:24,176 --> 00:32:25,377 Come on, Daddy! 429 00:32:25,411 --> 00:32:27,546 - You don't want your coat? - No. 430 00:32:36,022 --> 00:32:38,324 Daddy, he's in... 431 00:32:38,357 --> 00:32:40,126 Oh, my goodness. 432 00:32:40,926 --> 00:32:42,128 Oh, wow. 433 00:32:57,343 --> 00:32:58,944 You're just coming home at 12:30 434 00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:00,212 and then you're... And then you're... 435 00:33:00,246 --> 00:33:02,214 You're here until soccer? 436 00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:07,186 In the first year, we were alternating our meltdowns. 437 00:33:07,219 --> 00:33:08,920 Sometimes, we'd meltdown together 438 00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:11,023 and then the kids would come to our aid. 439 00:33:11,057 --> 00:33:13,492 - Bye. - Careful. 440 00:33:15,894 --> 00:33:19,065 James and Natalie would just emerge from wherever they were 441 00:33:19,098 --> 00:33:21,933 and put their arms around us, literally. 442 00:33:21,967 --> 00:33:24,170 There's a little more in here. 443 00:33:25,037 --> 00:33:26,272 Who knows how to do this? 444 00:33:26,305 --> 00:33:29,608 There's no... There's no way to do this. 445 00:33:29,641 --> 00:33:32,144 And we don't want to sweep it under the rug. 446 00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:35,614 And at the same time, we don't want to dwell on it. 447 00:33:35,647 --> 00:33:39,618 And even with my wife Jackie, I feel like if I'm having a moment, 448 00:33:39,651 --> 00:33:43,222 I don't want to bring that on her if she's having a good moment. 449 00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:50,996 I didn't like seeing my parents all upset. 450 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:57,069 And they definitely were upset a lot longer and a lot more than I was. 451 00:33:57,103 --> 00:33:59,471 And then they'd always feel bad like, 452 00:33:59,505 --> 00:34:02,708 "Oh, I shouldn't be crying in front of you 'cause it's making you upset." 453 00:34:02,741 --> 00:34:04,009 But then I'd feel bad 454 00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:09,047 because they were trying to not think about it because of me. 455 00:34:11,117 --> 00:34:13,719 I remember before Natalie came back, 456 00:34:13,752 --> 00:34:20,058 teachers said that she just wanted to be treated like nothing happened. 457 00:34:20,859 --> 00:34:23,095 So that's what we all did. 458 00:34:24,163 --> 00:34:26,932 To me, Newtown was always just this perfect... 459 00:34:26,965 --> 00:34:29,268 - I mean, I love Newtown. - Yeah. 460 00:34:29,301 --> 00:34:31,337 It was always this perfect little town, 461 00:34:31,370 --> 00:34:35,073 and everything is so safe and everything is so... 462 00:34:35,107 --> 00:34:37,676 - I mean, everyone is so nice here. - Yeah. 463 00:34:37,709 --> 00:34:38,910 So, I would never expect 464 00:34:38,944 --> 00:34:42,381 that somebody like that would be just around the corner. 465 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:57,563 I feel like because he was... I don't know how to say it. 466 00:34:57,596 --> 00:35:00,499 - Disturbed or something. - Yeah. 467 00:35:00,532 --> 00:35:02,868 I feel like she should have been more careful. 468 00:35:07,306 --> 00:35:09,441 - And she let him do what he wanted. - Yeah. 469 00:35:09,475 --> 00:35:12,344 And she had the guns in the house. 470 00:35:19,318 --> 00:35:21,687 I think if you have a gun and you have a son, 471 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:26,057 you should have it in a safe and maybe not let him know the code. 472 00:35:26,091 --> 00:35:27,293 No. 473 00:35:42,874 --> 00:35:46,978 So, this was my driveway. 474 00:35:47,012 --> 00:35:53,785 And the shooter's house is kind of kitty-corner to us over here. 475 00:35:56,888 --> 00:36:00,759 Part of me really wanted to go and see it come down, 476 00:36:00,792 --> 00:36:02,494 but I'd probably just spit at the house 477 00:36:02,528 --> 00:36:05,231 as it came down, to be perfectly honest. 478 00:36:07,098 --> 00:36:08,500 You know your neighbors' houses, 479 00:36:08,534 --> 00:36:11,237 you just don't always know your neighbors. 480 00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:14,640 Yeah. 481 00:36:37,896 --> 00:36:43,469 I'm always thinking about the shooter and his mother in particular. 482 00:36:45,871 --> 00:36:49,241 I'm certainly not into a space of forgiveness yet. 483 00:36:49,275 --> 00:36:51,410 Might never be, I don't know. 484 00:36:51,443 --> 00:36:54,413 If he had lived, if he hadn't committed suicide, 485 00:36:55,381 --> 00:36:57,849 I wouldn't forgive him at all. 486 00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:01,687 And I don't forgive his mother 487 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:04,356 for giving him access to the weapons either. 488 00:37:06,858 --> 00:37:09,561 And after 12/14, 489 00:37:12,998 --> 00:37:14,800 I used to have dreams about it. 490 00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:19,505 It's these crazy superhero dreams. 491 00:37:20,872 --> 00:37:23,775 Dreams where I'm in the classroom and I'm able to stop him, 492 00:37:23,809 --> 00:37:27,178 or dreams where I'm in the classroom and I'm not able to stop him 493 00:37:27,212 --> 00:37:31,817 and I die with Dylan. But I'm with my son. 494 00:37:43,662 --> 00:37:48,233 Dr. Begg, did you actually treat Sandy Hook victims? 495 00:37:48,266 --> 00:37:50,001 Uh, yes. 496 00:37:50,035 --> 00:37:55,674 I was... I was in the ER that day when the... When the victims came in. 497 00:37:55,707 --> 00:37:58,577 Can you describe the kinds of wounds 498 00:37:58,610 --> 00:38:03,048 and the number of bullets in these small bodies? 499 00:38:03,081 --> 00:38:09,220 Most of the... Most of the victims actually didn't come in. 500 00:38:09,254 --> 00:38:14,159 And we have such horrific injuries to little bodies, 501 00:38:14,192 --> 00:38:17,195 that's what happens. They don't even make it to the hospital. 502 00:38:17,228 --> 00:38:21,266 The coroner from the state of Connecticut, when he did his review, 503 00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:22,701 and this is public knowledge, 504 00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:27,373 stated that each body had three to 11 bullets. 505 00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:30,376 Okay? 506 00:38:30,409 --> 00:38:33,111 When a child has three to 11 bullets in them, 507 00:38:33,144 --> 00:38:35,381 and it's an assault-type bullet, 508 00:38:35,414 --> 00:38:39,150 it explodes inside the body. It doesn't go through a straight line. 509 00:38:39,184 --> 00:38:40,986 It goes in and then it opens up. 510 00:38:43,489 --> 00:38:46,992 That... That's not a survivable injury. 511 00:38:47,025 --> 00:38:50,796 This is a public health issue. 30,000 people a year die. 512 00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:52,731 Folks who have cancer and... And... 513 00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:54,933 And stroke and heart attack, there's a lot of research. 514 00:38:54,966 --> 00:38:58,437 But there's not the research. There's just anecdotes... 515 00:38:58,470 --> 00:39:00,806 On this day at Sandy Hook, 516 00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:03,709 I knew that... I knew that 517 00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:09,515 a lot of children had already been killed. 518 00:39:11,282 --> 00:39:13,351 And may not be coming in. 519 00:39:14,185 --> 00:39:16,788 But I only let the staff know 520 00:39:18,223 --> 00:39:20,125 that there were a couple coming in, 521 00:39:20,158 --> 00:39:21,893 the ones that we knew 522 00:39:21,927 --> 00:39:24,696 because about a third of the staff we had 523 00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:27,666 actively working were from Newtown, 524 00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:30,469 such as me 525 00:39:32,237 --> 00:39:36,141 and many of them had... 526 00:39:38,577 --> 00:39:42,914 Had children in the school systems at that time. 527 00:39:42,948 --> 00:39:45,383 And so, as it turns out, 528 00:39:46,752 --> 00:39:50,155 we ended up getting just a couple of the... 529 00:39:50,188 --> 00:39:51,990 Couple of the victims. 530 00:39:52,023 --> 00:39:54,426 And we tried our best. 531 00:39:56,895 --> 00:39:59,965 We tried our best and we were unsuccessful. 532 00:40:01,332 --> 00:40:05,937 I'm not an activist, but I said to myself that day that... 533 00:40:10,341 --> 00:40:11,543 That... 534 00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:15,914 I'm not... I'm not taking this... 535 00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:20,051 I'm not taking this one laying down. 536 00:40:23,789 --> 00:40:28,494 As somebody who was so close to losing 537 00:40:28,527 --> 00:40:31,062 the person that I love most in my life, 538 00:40:31,096 --> 00:40:36,535 I knew that in honor of the people who I knew who died, 539 00:40:36,568 --> 00:40:39,971 all of the teachers who died, I knew them, 540 00:40:40,005 --> 00:40:41,940 I needed to do something. 541 00:40:44,743 --> 00:40:48,046 I went with my dad and about 100 others from Newtown, 542 00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:53,552 and we ended up leading this march of 6,000 Americans. 543 00:40:53,585 --> 00:40:56,488 - Stop the violence! - Stop the violence! 544 00:40:56,522 --> 00:40:59,124 There's a picture of Sarah holding up a sign 545 00:40:59,157 --> 00:41:02,528 when she and her dad went to the march on Washington 546 00:41:02,561 --> 00:41:05,731 in January following the tragedy. 547 00:41:05,764 --> 00:41:10,802 And there's a little spark in her eye that had a look of like, 548 00:41:10,836 --> 00:41:13,872 "I'm not really sure what I'm about to get into, 549 00:41:13,905 --> 00:41:16,742 "but this is big." 550 00:41:16,775 --> 00:41:20,646 Twelve relatives of Sandy Hook victims caught a ride to Washington 551 00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:22,814 aboard Air Force One Monday night 552 00:41:22,848 --> 00:41:24,950 after the President came to their state 553 00:41:24,983 --> 00:41:28,419 to hail Connecticut's sweeping new gun laws. 554 00:41:28,453 --> 00:41:30,589 So, Connecticut's shown the way. 555 00:41:31,757 --> 00:41:35,961 And now is the time for Congress to do the same. 556 00:41:38,764 --> 00:41:41,366 The families of eight Newtown victims 557 00:41:41,399 --> 00:41:43,769 will be back on Capitol Hill today. 558 00:41:43,802 --> 00:41:46,872 Tragedy has turned them into accidental lobbyists 559 00:41:46,905 --> 00:41:49,675 pushing for new gun restrictions. 560 00:41:49,708 --> 00:41:51,409 I'm a guitar player. 561 00:41:51,442 --> 00:41:53,344 I don't belong in the halls of Congress 562 00:41:53,378 --> 00:41:54,980 trying to change the world. 563 00:41:55,013 --> 00:41:56,347 But here we are. 564 00:41:56,381 --> 00:41:58,950 I was very naive going into this, okay? 565 00:41:58,984 --> 00:42:02,220 And I thought making sure that everybody that purchases firearms 566 00:42:02,253 --> 00:42:03,989 should have to go through a background check. 567 00:42:04,022 --> 00:42:06,157 I thought that that was the low hanging fruit, 568 00:42:06,191 --> 00:42:09,561 and that, if anything, that's gonna get through. 569 00:42:09,595 --> 00:42:13,464 What larger job description do they have 570 00:42:13,498 --> 00:42:16,602 than keeping their constituents safe? 571 00:42:16,635 --> 00:42:19,337 What's the... What's a bigger line item 572 00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:20,872 in their job description? 573 00:42:20,906 --> 00:42:22,240 Morning. 574 00:42:22,273 --> 00:42:25,143 We are committed, completely committed, to seeing this through 575 00:42:25,176 --> 00:42:29,447 for all the changes that help eliminate the causes of gun violence. 576 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,750 We were downstairs in the basement of the Senate 577 00:42:31,783 --> 00:42:33,384 when we started getting news 578 00:42:33,418 --> 00:42:36,454 that it looked like senators who saw that we may not pass then 579 00:42:36,487 --> 00:42:38,256 were jumping ship. 580 00:42:38,289 --> 00:42:42,393 And I was just incredulous, like, "Are you kidding me?" 581 00:42:42,427 --> 00:42:44,129 The gun control legislation 582 00:42:44,162 --> 00:42:46,497 that was supposed to tighten background checks, 583 00:42:46,531 --> 00:42:49,334 was defeated today in the US Senate. 584 00:42:52,671 --> 00:42:54,773 We are here now, we will always be here 585 00:42:54,806 --> 00:42:57,108 because we have no other choice. 586 00:42:57,142 --> 00:42:58,910 We are not going away. 587 00:42:58,944 --> 00:43:00,979 And every day, as more people are killed 588 00:43:01,012 --> 00:43:03,014 in this country because of gun violence, 589 00:43:03,048 --> 00:43:06,251 our determination grows stronger. 590 00:43:14,259 --> 00:43:16,962 Let's clip the length and see where it goes. 591 00:43:18,930 --> 00:43:21,499 I do think of Mark as a brother 592 00:43:21,532 --> 00:43:23,835 because we work together very closely. 593 00:43:23,869 --> 00:43:27,438 We can sense what each other is feeling 594 00:43:27,472 --> 00:43:29,908 and protect each other when necessary. 595 00:43:29,941 --> 00:43:32,277 'Cause we've chosen a similar path 596 00:43:32,310 --> 00:43:35,981 of what we wanna do to honor our children. 597 00:43:36,014 --> 00:43:40,318 That's a bond for life now with that family. 598 00:43:41,552 --> 00:43:43,955 I will always have their back 599 00:43:43,989 --> 00:43:47,258 and I believe that they'll always have mine as well. 600 00:44:00,005 --> 00:44:02,373 Yes, I know you're on a tight time schedule, 601 00:44:02,407 --> 00:44:04,609 but make sure you get a chance to meet Nicole and... 602 00:44:04,642 --> 00:44:05,811 - Hi. - Hi. 603 00:44:05,844 --> 00:44:07,645 - Kim Jacobs. - It's very nice to meet you. 604 00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:08,847 Sorry for your loss though. 605 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,249 - Thank you, I appreciate that. - Absolutely. 606 00:44:11,282 --> 00:44:14,953 As a member of a major city chief's organization, 607 00:44:14,986 --> 00:44:18,389 right after Sandy Hook happened, 608 00:44:18,423 --> 00:44:24,195 we received briefing about the horror that actually transpired. 609 00:44:24,229 --> 00:44:27,833 We heard all the politicians talking about something's gotta be done. 610 00:44:27,866 --> 00:44:30,902 And now the politicians have backed off. 611 00:44:30,936 --> 00:44:33,772 And guess what? It's not on the agenda anymore. 612 00:44:34,773 --> 00:44:36,842 So this was, um... 613 00:44:36,875 --> 00:44:40,611 This is my son, Dylan. 614 00:44:40,645 --> 00:44:44,015 This is when he was about four years old. 615 00:44:44,049 --> 00:44:50,355 And this was taken about four months before he died. 616 00:44:50,388 --> 00:44:53,992 He needed me in a different way than Jake needed me. 617 00:44:54,926 --> 00:44:56,862 He was always close. 618 00:44:58,129 --> 00:45:01,900 When we first found out that Dylan was autistic, 619 00:45:01,933 --> 00:45:06,071 Ian and I went through a mini-grieving process 620 00:45:06,104 --> 00:45:10,441 knowing that he might never lead an independent life, 621 00:45:10,475 --> 00:45:14,880 he might struggle to make loving relationships. 622 00:45:14,913 --> 00:45:19,217 Then he opened our eyes up in a very different way. 623 00:45:19,250 --> 00:45:22,620 The way he would look at things and make me stop 624 00:45:22,653 --> 00:45:26,424 and get down to his level and look at things with him. 625 00:45:26,457 --> 00:45:30,028 Colors are seen differently, sounds are heard differently, 626 00:45:30,061 --> 00:45:33,164 textures are felt differently. 627 00:45:33,198 --> 00:45:36,902 He actually added so much more to this family 628 00:45:36,935 --> 00:45:39,905 than we even realized at the time. 629 00:45:47,178 --> 00:45:49,380 It kills me. 630 00:45:49,414 --> 00:45:54,285 I don't think people realize every day it's like taking my heart out 631 00:45:56,087 --> 00:45:57,956 and doing that all over again. 632 00:45:57,989 --> 00:45:59,424 And that at the end of the day, 633 00:45:59,457 --> 00:46:01,793 you just take all the tattered remains and shove it back in 634 00:46:01,827 --> 00:46:03,995 and wake up to do it again the next day. 635 00:46:04,029 --> 00:46:05,430 I'm so sorry to interrupt you. 636 00:46:05,463 --> 00:46:07,532 - I'm so glad to talk to you. - That's okay, Pastor Jenny. 637 00:46:07,565 --> 00:46:09,734 But I always hate to take y'all to the deep places. 638 00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:11,002 No, no, I appreciate the question. 639 00:46:11,036 --> 00:46:13,238 But I knew that that's where you were going towards the end. 640 00:46:13,271 --> 00:46:15,440 So, I'm so grateful that you were able to share that. 641 00:46:15,473 --> 00:46:17,042 I know that's hard. 642 00:46:17,075 --> 00:46:20,445 Channel 4 would like to talk with you a little bit more tonight if that's okay. 643 00:46:20,478 --> 00:46:21,779 We're all set. 644 00:46:21,813 --> 00:46:24,816 Talk to me about your son if you will. What do I need to know? 645 00:46:24,850 --> 00:46:27,385 Dylan, um... 646 00:46:27,418 --> 00:46:30,021 Every parent thinks their child is special. 647 00:46:30,055 --> 00:46:31,990 So I'm no different in that regard. 648 00:46:32,023 --> 00:46:34,292 Dylan was an absolute brave soul. 649 00:46:34,325 --> 00:46:37,428 Hey, how you doing? You're sideways. 650 00:46:38,129 --> 00:46:40,265 Oh, you're still sideways. 651 00:46:40,298 --> 00:46:42,767 Where are you? That's not our house. 652 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,470 Are you in the bathroom? 653 00:46:45,503 --> 00:46:47,638 You're on the toilet right now. 654 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,510 Oh, man. You crack me up, kid. 655 00:47:10,929 --> 00:47:12,463 It never goes away. 656 00:47:13,598 --> 00:47:16,001 It just never really goes away. 657 00:47:17,268 --> 00:47:19,104 I mean, standing at the door of that school 658 00:47:19,137 --> 00:47:22,273 and seeing that broken glass, hearing that crunching, 659 00:47:23,141 --> 00:47:26,177 I hear that still in my sleep. 660 00:47:28,113 --> 00:47:29,948 You know, Easter marks for us the hope 661 00:47:29,981 --> 00:47:32,217 that every springtime holds for us. 662 00:47:32,250 --> 00:47:35,220 It gives us that promise that there is new life. 663 00:47:35,253 --> 00:47:38,089 For too many hours and for too many days, 664 00:47:38,123 --> 00:47:41,392 we've been caught up in a very gray winter. 665 00:47:41,426 --> 00:47:46,264 And now the days grow longer, the darkness grows less. 666 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,536 We're not gonna let the darkness overwhelm us, 667 00:47:51,569 --> 00:47:53,104 but the darkness is there. 668 00:47:54,472 --> 00:47:55,840 It's still part of life, 669 00:47:55,873 --> 00:47:57,275 and you go in the parking lot 670 00:47:57,308 --> 00:48:00,011 when the parents are picking the kids up 671 00:48:00,045 --> 00:48:02,147 and you still see they're apprehensive. 672 00:48:02,180 --> 00:48:04,782 "Is my child coming out?" 673 00:48:04,815 --> 00:48:06,751 Nothing has happened, there's been no more, 674 00:48:06,784 --> 00:48:08,954 but you can see in their faces, like, 675 00:48:08,987 --> 00:48:11,089 "My child's gonna come out, right?" 676 00:48:11,122 --> 00:48:15,160 It's just, you see that still in this community. 677 00:48:24,535 --> 00:48:25,670 Thank you. 678 00:48:33,678 --> 00:48:35,013 What can I do? 679 00:48:35,046 --> 00:48:38,316 How can I be most effective in this situation? 680 00:48:40,418 --> 00:48:43,054 We're all victimized with this. 681 00:48:44,455 --> 00:48:46,057 You go through the teachers that were shot, 682 00:48:46,091 --> 00:48:47,993 you go through the 12 children that escaped, 683 00:48:48,026 --> 00:48:49,627 you go through all the first responders. 684 00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:53,231 Then you start realizing the whole community's been victimized. 685 00:48:53,264 --> 00:48:57,635 And where do we go to protect and preserve ourselves? 686 00:49:16,921 --> 00:49:19,824 Here's the introduction and then a couple of songs. 687 00:49:19,857 --> 00:49:20,925 Then you and I do... 688 00:49:20,958 --> 00:49:22,527 - So you and I are doing... - That's us. 689 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,229 Do you wanna do it together still or... 690 00:49:24,262 --> 00:49:25,063 Yes. 691 00:49:25,096 --> 00:49:27,232 If you're okay with that. 692 00:49:27,265 --> 00:49:29,467 I'll do whatever you want me to do. 693 00:49:31,236 --> 00:49:32,437 Um... 694 00:49:38,209 --> 00:49:41,212 You just, um... Look at me. 695 00:49:44,182 --> 00:49:46,251 - Mmm. - It's gonna be all right. 696 00:50:30,928 --> 00:50:34,965 Every day we would drive by their house, every day. 697 00:50:34,999 --> 00:50:37,202 And I didn't know what to do. 698 00:50:39,003 --> 00:50:41,639 Do we stop by, do we not stop by? 699 00:50:43,241 --> 00:50:46,111 Do I bring them dinner? Do I... 700 00:50:48,746 --> 00:50:51,749 It was unchartered territory. 701 00:50:53,918 --> 00:50:59,090 'Cause, I think, at the firehouse that day, there was such tragedy. 702 00:50:59,124 --> 00:51:03,461 And I don't think I understood that it would change everything. 703 00:51:16,107 --> 00:51:20,111 There is a volunteer firehouse just adjacent to that school, 704 00:51:20,145 --> 00:51:22,447 and that is where teachers were told 705 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,815 to take the children just as soon as they could. 706 00:51:24,849 --> 00:51:27,318 Are there families there who don't know 707 00:51:27,352 --> 00:51:28,753 where their children are? 708 00:51:28,786 --> 00:51:30,588 Yes. There are still families here 709 00:51:30,621 --> 00:51:32,690 who do not know where their children are. 710 00:51:32,723 --> 00:51:35,260 And they're not being told anything. 711 00:51:38,729 --> 00:51:44,169 You could feel it. You could feel the emergency in the air. 712 00:51:44,202 --> 00:51:47,772 You could feel panic. 713 00:51:50,175 --> 00:51:54,612 There was all this murmuring going on, "The principal was shot. 714 00:51:54,645 --> 00:51:59,049 "There's a couple of shooters. There's kids in a bathroom." 715 00:51:59,083 --> 00:52:01,819 There was a lot of little snippets of information, 716 00:52:01,852 --> 00:52:05,323 but they hadn't heard anything about kids at that point. 717 00:52:06,857 --> 00:52:08,759 Um... 718 00:52:08,793 --> 00:52:10,295 And then... 719 00:52:14,832 --> 00:52:20,705 And then there was the room with the parents waiting for their kids. 720 00:52:23,641 --> 00:52:27,345 We just kind of waited. 721 00:52:27,378 --> 00:52:30,348 And then, they brought the children out 722 00:52:30,381 --> 00:52:35,486 and it was heartbreaking to see them. 723 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,324 They were all holding hands in a line. 724 00:52:40,725 --> 00:52:43,160 And I saw my Kyle come. 725 00:52:44,462 --> 00:52:47,432 And true to his personality, 726 00:52:47,465 --> 00:52:52,503 I think he was skipping and holding somebody's hand. 727 00:52:52,537 --> 00:52:56,474 And he said, "Mom, I didn't cry, I didn't cry." 728 00:53:01,879 --> 00:53:05,583 And his teacher came behind. 729 00:53:05,616 --> 00:53:07,852 She had a wild look on her face 730 00:53:07,885 --> 00:53:11,856 and she said, "They heard it all." She said, "They heard it all. 731 00:53:14,825 --> 00:53:18,396 "They heard the guns, they heard the screaming, 732 00:53:18,429 --> 00:53:20,298 "but they heard it all." 733 00:53:25,836 --> 00:53:31,676 And then, you look over where the first graders are 734 00:53:31,709 --> 00:53:36,247 and there are so many parents with no children. 735 00:53:39,517 --> 00:53:44,088 And there was that feeling of, "Where are their kids?" 736 00:53:44,121 --> 00:53:46,291 And then, um... 737 00:53:46,324 --> 00:53:49,527 And then I saw Mark, and there was no Daniel. 738 00:53:57,535 --> 00:54:01,439 Then, the Governor came up and said, 739 00:54:01,472 --> 00:54:04,775 "We regret to let you know that 740 00:54:05,876 --> 00:54:10,281 "20 children were shot and killed in the school, 741 00:54:12,082 --> 00:54:14,519 "as well as six educators." 742 00:54:14,552 --> 00:54:17,888 And I tell you, the room erupted. 743 00:54:19,957 --> 00:54:21,559 It will forever... 744 00:54:22,427 --> 00:54:24,629 Forever be in mind. 745 00:54:32,737 --> 00:54:37,007 This guy walked into the school and he went left. 746 00:54:37,041 --> 00:54:38,743 Why did he go left? 747 00:54:38,776 --> 00:54:42,279 Kyle was on the right. The second door on the right. 748 00:54:42,313 --> 00:54:45,450 You know, why did he go this way and not that way? 749 00:54:46,684 --> 00:54:47,852 I don't know. 750 00:54:49,687 --> 00:54:53,491 It's not fair. None of this is fair. 751 00:55:13,544 --> 00:55:15,112 Benny loved this place. 752 00:55:15,145 --> 00:55:17,782 He loved Peter Rabbit's house. He loved to come here and play. 753 00:55:17,815 --> 00:55:19,684 You can go inside and play around. 754 00:55:19,717 --> 00:55:21,719 It's a really beautiful playhouse. 755 00:55:27,291 --> 00:55:28,759 Isn't that sweet? 756 00:55:36,467 --> 00:55:39,604 If you look at any catastrophic event, 757 00:55:39,637 --> 00:55:41,972 there are gonna be places where 758 00:55:42,006 --> 00:55:44,909 if that person had turned left instead of right, 759 00:55:44,942 --> 00:55:48,245 events would not have unfolded the way they did. 760 00:55:48,278 --> 00:55:52,950 But that's life. That's the chaos of the universe. 761 00:55:52,983 --> 00:55:55,553 And I, previously, 762 00:55:55,586 --> 00:56:01,291 found a certain amount of beauty in that chaos. 763 00:56:01,325 --> 00:56:03,628 And now, the challenge is to continue to see 764 00:56:03,661 --> 00:56:05,295 the beauty in that chaos. 765 00:56:05,329 --> 00:56:07,865 Because now, the chaos has hurt me. 766 00:56:18,976 --> 00:56:22,079 Demolition work has started at Sandy Hook Elementary School 767 00:56:22,112 --> 00:56:23,848 in Newtown, Connecticut. 768 00:56:23,881 --> 00:56:27,117 The school, of course, the site of that December 2012 mass shooting... 769 00:56:27,151 --> 00:56:31,989 For the first several months I could not imagine, 770 00:56:32,022 --> 00:56:35,660 why anyone in the world would want to go back into that school. 771 00:56:37,194 --> 00:56:41,031 And one morning, and it was literally one morning, 772 00:56:41,065 --> 00:56:44,702 I woke up and I had to go. 773 00:56:44,735 --> 00:56:47,805 I knew the school was gonna be torn down. 774 00:56:47,838 --> 00:56:51,041 And I had to see it before it was gone forever. 775 00:56:53,277 --> 00:56:55,613 It answered small, minor questions 776 00:56:55,646 --> 00:56:57,515 that turned into huge questions 777 00:56:57,548 --> 00:56:59,784 when you're unable to sleep. 778 00:56:59,817 --> 00:57:04,955 "Where was he? What did it look like? How big was the room?" 779 00:57:04,989 --> 00:57:09,193 What it gave me was a remarkable amount of respect 780 00:57:09,226 --> 00:57:15,800 and admiration for the men and women who were there. 781 00:57:18,936 --> 00:57:23,641 I didn't have a face-to-face meeting with the EMT who was with Ben. 782 00:57:23,674 --> 00:57:26,911 But she wrote us a lovely, lovely letter. 783 00:57:28,813 --> 00:57:31,081 She was afraid to write to us 784 00:57:31,115 --> 00:57:34,218 because she felt like she was forever going to be 785 00:57:34,251 --> 00:57:37,354 a terrible reminder of his loss. 786 00:57:37,387 --> 00:57:40,357 And I wrote her back and I said, "That's not the case at all. 787 00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:43,794 "You know, you are one of the good guys." 788 00:57:46,330 --> 00:57:47,532 Yeah, that was a tough letter. 789 00:57:47,565 --> 00:57:51,502 But I couldn't not send it, if it makes any sense. 790 00:57:51,536 --> 00:57:55,472 I knew I had to say something. I knew I had to let them know that... 791 00:57:56,574 --> 00:58:03,581 That he was cared for, that there was love there. 792 00:58:03,614 --> 00:58:07,017 I mean, I went to the wake, 'cause I had to. 793 00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:10,287 They didn't know who I was at that point. 794 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,290 And I went to give him a big hug and broke down completely 795 00:58:13,323 --> 00:58:15,292 and then, that was the last... 796 00:58:15,325 --> 00:58:18,663 That was the last words I've ever spoken with him. 797 00:58:21,632 --> 00:58:24,969 It's just awkward when you walk around town 798 00:58:25,002 --> 00:58:29,306 and you see the faces that you see, maybe on TV, of the parents 799 00:58:29,339 --> 00:58:30,975 and it's just... 800 00:58:31,008 --> 00:58:34,812 What's the social norm for that? 801 00:58:37,481 --> 00:58:39,083 What do you say? 802 00:59:19,523 --> 00:59:23,861 Your police officers, your state troopers, your firefighters, 803 00:59:23,894 --> 00:59:25,329 can't say enough about them, 804 00:59:25,362 --> 00:59:27,998 this amazing local town here. 805 00:59:28,032 --> 00:59:29,867 Thank you so much. 806 00:59:32,569 --> 00:59:34,739 Because of my role in there, 807 00:59:34,772 --> 00:59:39,844 some parents rightfully feel uncomfortable 808 00:59:39,877 --> 00:59:41,679 because it reminds them of things. 809 00:59:41,712 --> 00:59:42,747 - You doing okay? - Yes. 810 00:59:42,780 --> 00:59:44,548 Good. I'm glad to see it. 811 00:59:44,581 --> 00:59:46,050 - It's good to see you again. - You, too. 812 00:59:46,083 --> 00:59:47,584 - It's been a while. - Yes. 813 00:59:47,618 --> 00:59:50,821 But I always recognize you when I see you. 814 00:59:50,855 --> 00:59:53,190 - Things are all right? - Yeah, we're doing okay. 815 00:59:53,223 --> 00:59:56,493 We'll be all right. You know, we're all in this together. 816 00:59:56,526 --> 00:59:57,762 Well, it's... 817 00:59:57,795 --> 01:00:01,699 You know, worst thing in the world happened to you. 818 01:00:01,732 --> 01:00:04,201 You can't give up on all of life. 819 01:00:04,234 --> 01:00:06,236 Absolutely. You know, you're a good man. 820 01:00:06,270 --> 01:00:10,607 I do remember coming upon Dylan. 821 01:00:12,977 --> 01:00:15,646 And the only thing that I remember 822 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,749 very specifically about it 823 01:00:21,185 --> 01:00:23,754 was that his teacher's arm was around him. 824 01:00:26,490 --> 01:00:29,359 And as odd as it seems, 825 01:00:29,393 --> 01:00:32,830 I got a little comfort knowing that he wasn't alone. 826 01:00:58,956 --> 01:01:03,260 You just never know where it's gonna come, what's gonna trigger you 827 01:01:03,293 --> 01:01:10,534 and bring back an emotion or a sound or a smell. 828 01:01:10,567 --> 01:01:13,871 You never know at what point you're right back to day one. 829 01:01:15,706 --> 01:01:19,710 And I guess that's something that's just gonna be with me 830 01:01:20,644 --> 01:01:22,379 for the rest of my life, really. 831 01:01:24,614 --> 01:01:29,319 I had only recently seen a photo 832 01:01:29,353 --> 01:01:34,024 and I suddenly looked at it and I thought, "Oh, my God. That's me." 833 01:01:34,058 --> 01:01:38,428 And seeing me with my friend holding me. 834 01:01:50,808 --> 01:01:53,377 She just held me for the longest time. 835 01:02:04,054 --> 01:02:07,724 And that's the last memory I have of being at the firehouse. 836 01:02:09,726 --> 01:02:11,896 I don't remember how I got home. 837 01:02:19,103 --> 01:02:24,041 Even then, we stayed at our friend's house for a few days 838 01:02:27,044 --> 01:02:29,679 and the cop who had to officially tell us that Dylan was dead, 839 01:02:29,713 --> 01:02:32,216 they took his photo, writing description 840 01:02:32,249 --> 01:02:34,151 of what he'd been wearing that day. 841 01:02:36,386 --> 01:02:39,589 And they came to the house at about 1:30 in the morning, 842 01:02:39,623 --> 01:02:42,092 or some ridiculous hour 843 01:02:42,126 --> 01:02:45,129 to confirm to us that he was... 844 01:02:48,866 --> 01:02:52,069 That he was one of them and... 845 01:02:54,604 --> 01:02:58,242 And even then, I still thought something's gotta be wrong. 846 01:02:58,275 --> 01:03:00,010 This can't be. 847 01:03:09,219 --> 01:03:11,788 This just isn't supposed to happen. 848 01:03:29,139 --> 01:03:33,577 It's funny, I remember when I saw him in his casket 849 01:03:34,744 --> 01:03:37,347 on my birthday. 850 01:03:44,021 --> 01:03:46,523 I thought that that would be when I finally realized 851 01:03:46,556 --> 01:03:48,125 that he was dead. 852 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,429 And even then, I couldn't even really accept it 853 01:03:52,462 --> 01:03:56,266 because that was his body 854 01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:58,502 but that's not D... 855 01:04:00,270 --> 01:04:01,605 When I could... 856 01:04:01,638 --> 01:04:03,307 I was holding his hand and I could see 857 01:04:03,340 --> 01:04:07,277 there was his torn cuticles from where he bit his nails. 858 01:04:18,622 --> 01:04:20,490 My son was full of life. 859 01:04:23,660 --> 01:04:27,364 Even then, I couldn't... And that's why I still just can't accept it. 860 01:04:32,069 --> 01:04:35,705 That's why sometimes traveling is easy for me 861 01:04:35,739 --> 01:04:38,175 'cause it's like I can imagine he's home. 862 01:04:40,510 --> 01:04:43,380 So, when I come home from traveling, it's just... 863 01:04:48,018 --> 01:04:50,921 It's having to accept it all over again. 864 01:04:57,794 --> 01:05:01,431 And I don't know how you're supposed to get over something like this. 865 01:06:05,962 --> 01:06:10,934 You were saying that you struggle to know what to say. 866 01:06:10,967 --> 01:06:12,869 Sometimes it's exactly the same for me. 867 01:06:12,902 --> 01:06:15,205 Right. Right. 868 01:06:16,073 --> 01:06:18,875 'Cause it is, what do you say, 869 01:06:18,908 --> 01:06:24,914 and how do you put people at ease 870 01:06:24,948 --> 01:06:28,152 and because we're all in this together. 871 01:06:29,486 --> 01:06:32,789 You know how many times I lay down in bed 872 01:06:32,822 --> 01:06:36,026 and just think of the unfairness of this whole thing. 873 01:06:37,094 --> 01:06:39,363 Now, I didn't know Dylan and... 874 01:06:40,164 --> 01:06:41,731 And somehow, in the back of my head, 875 01:06:41,765 --> 01:06:44,334 sometimes I feel like I missed out on something. 876 01:06:46,836 --> 01:06:49,473 Because he was six then, my son, 877 01:06:49,506 --> 01:06:54,311 and when I told him about Dylan, he got quiet. 878 01:06:56,780 --> 01:07:01,318 He just looked at me. He goes, "He didn't talk much. 879 01:07:01,351 --> 01:07:03,353 "But he was such a nice boy." 880 01:07:06,456 --> 01:07:07,624 Thanks. 881 01:07:10,427 --> 01:07:13,997 Because I don't really know what Dylan's classmates thought of him. 882 01:07:14,030 --> 01:07:16,566 - Right. - Because he was hard to... 883 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,768 He didn't often talk to me about his classmates 884 01:07:18,802 --> 01:07:20,770 'cause he couldn't really articulate it very well. 885 01:07:20,804 --> 01:07:22,572 Right. 886 01:07:22,606 --> 01:07:24,841 And I know I've reached out to you and said that someday... 887 01:07:24,874 --> 01:07:26,110 Yeah. 888 01:07:26,143 --> 01:07:29,012 I want to hear from you about your son's experience, 889 01:07:29,045 --> 01:07:36,720 because there's a need to know as much detail as I can about... 890 01:07:36,753 --> 01:07:41,525 About Dylan's last moments, but I'm not ready for it. 891 01:07:41,558 --> 01:07:42,859 Yeah, I understand that. 892 01:07:42,892 --> 01:07:44,228 I mean, when you think about it, 893 01:07:44,261 --> 01:07:46,863 you could read all the newspapers you want. 894 01:07:46,896 --> 01:07:50,467 But at the end of the day, there's only 11 kids that know what happened. 895 01:07:50,500 --> 01:07:51,768 Yeah. 896 01:07:51,801 --> 01:07:55,405 We had made it our point to remember specifics about that day. 897 01:07:55,439 --> 01:07:57,307 So, we have that information. 898 01:07:57,841 --> 01:07:59,443 Thanks. 899 01:07:59,476 --> 01:08:04,047 Whenever you guys are ready, we'd be, of course, willing to sit down 900 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,350 and share what we know. 901 01:08:06,850 --> 01:08:08,485 Yeah. 902 01:08:08,518 --> 01:08:10,987 Not today. Please. 903 01:08:11,020 --> 01:08:12,289 - Nope. - Not today. 904 01:08:12,322 --> 01:08:14,023 - Someday. - Someday. 905 01:08:14,057 --> 01:08:17,527 I'd like to, but I'm not ready for it. 906 01:08:20,164 --> 01:08:21,665 He was a good boy. 907 01:08:26,270 --> 01:08:27,537 - Thank you. - I'm sorry. 908 01:08:27,571 --> 01:08:30,874 No, don't... Please, don't apologize. Don't ever... 909 01:08:30,907 --> 01:08:32,676 Don't ever apologize. 910 01:08:33,843 --> 01:08:35,212 It's okay. 911 01:08:36,213 --> 01:08:38,715 I need to know these things as well. 912 01:08:59,236 --> 01:09:01,538 - How are you, my friend? - Oh, good to see you. 913 01:09:01,571 --> 01:09:03,207 - Good to see you. - Thank you for coming up. 914 01:09:07,577 --> 01:09:10,230 You want to grab this, Mark, so I can... 915 01:09:10,231 --> 01:09:11,114 Yeah. 916 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:21,057 At the third annual Daniel Barden Highland MudFest. 917 01:09:21,090 --> 01:09:24,060 Do you promise to live life to its fullest? 918 01:09:24,093 --> 01:09:25,462 I do! 919 01:09:25,495 --> 01:09:28,131 Do you promise to cherish family and friends? 920 01:09:28,164 --> 01:09:29,599 I do! 921 01:09:29,633 --> 01:09:32,636 Do you promise to love, laugh, and enjoy this moment? 922 01:09:32,669 --> 01:09:33,737 I do! 923 01:09:58,495 --> 01:10:00,797 - Hey. - Hey. Good luck. 924 01:10:00,830 --> 01:10:02,999 - Thank you. - Thanks for doing this, guys. 925 01:10:03,032 --> 01:10:04,868 - Thank you. - Enjoy it. 926 01:10:06,770 --> 01:10:07,937 Now we're talking. 927 01:10:14,811 --> 01:10:17,347 Yay Kyle! Hey, I'm coming to get you. 928 01:10:17,381 --> 01:10:21,485 Every day I look at Kyle and I think, "Thank God for miracles." 929 01:10:21,518 --> 01:10:22,519 Nice job. 930 01:10:24,254 --> 01:10:26,956 And I find myself 931 01:10:26,990 --> 01:10:31,961 having to take a breath before I talk about Kyle in front of them. 932 01:10:34,063 --> 01:10:35,532 Right? 933 01:10:36,266 --> 01:10:37,467 - All good. - Yeah, all good. 934 01:10:37,501 --> 01:10:39,736 'Cause, I don't want... 935 01:10:39,769 --> 01:10:42,539 I don't want to cause them any more pain. 936 01:10:46,276 --> 01:10:49,646 Kyle has since taken to growing his hair long, 937 01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:52,215 which is how Daniel always had his hair. 938 01:10:52,248 --> 01:10:54,884 And Kyle's very attached to his hair. 939 01:10:56,953 --> 01:11:00,757 And I think that's some of his way of carrying Daniel with him. 940 01:11:07,564 --> 01:11:12,201 I'd like to introduce my sweet little Natalie. 941 01:11:46,202 --> 01:11:48,905 My parents were saying, "Write down things, 942 01:11:48,938 --> 01:11:55,044 "because, we're not gonna have memories of when we were really young," 943 01:11:55,078 --> 01:11:57,581 'cause I was in fifth grade. 944 01:11:57,614 --> 01:12:00,917 So, I didn't want to forget things. 945 01:12:00,950 --> 01:12:02,852 I didn't want to think about what happened, 946 01:12:02,886 --> 01:12:04,888 but I didn't want to forget my brother. 947 01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:13,262 That would just be awful to ever be a grownup 948 01:12:13,296 --> 01:12:15,732 and not remember things. 949 01:12:17,867 --> 01:12:19,469 I don't like it. 950 01:12:19,503 --> 01:12:20,737 It's not weird though. 951 01:12:20,770 --> 01:12:23,973 - Like, talking about him, it's just... - Yeah. 952 01:12:25,475 --> 01:12:27,577 Nobody feels weird about it. 953 01:12:27,611 --> 01:12:30,547 'Cause, it's only weird if you make it weird. 954 01:12:30,580 --> 01:12:32,432 Yeah, it's just good memories. 955 01:12:32,433 --> 01:12:33,049 Yeah. 956 01:12:34,150 --> 01:12:36,453 Does Kyle talk about Daniel? 957 01:12:36,486 --> 01:12:40,289 Well, not a lot. Just because... 958 01:12:40,323 --> 01:12:42,692 I think it's more touchy for him. 959 01:12:42,726 --> 01:12:46,996 But, I mean, overall, I know he has this box 960 01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:50,734 where he keeps a picture of him, a "What Would Daniel Do?" bracelet. 961 01:12:50,767 --> 01:12:53,136 And I think it's under his bed or something. 962 01:12:53,169 --> 01:12:55,339 And I think it's cute, how he has that. 963 01:12:55,340 --> 01:12:56,372 Mmm-hmm. 964 01:12:56,406 --> 01:12:58,708 Some things you do to remember people. 965 01:12:58,742 --> 01:13:00,944 - And it's just for you. It's just... - Yeah. 966 01:13:00,977 --> 01:13:04,514 You don't want anybody else to know about it or anything. 967 01:13:40,216 --> 01:13:44,854 I keep telling myself, "We did everything right." 968 01:13:46,322 --> 01:13:50,193 Every single parent who put their kid on the bus that morning 969 01:13:50,226 --> 01:13:52,462 did everything right. 970 01:13:54,631 --> 01:13:58,067 And those parents whose children survived, 971 01:13:58,101 --> 01:14:00,403 and it bothers them and it hurts them, 972 01:14:00,436 --> 01:14:03,707 they also did everything right. 973 01:14:07,210 --> 01:14:09,212 And we have to hang on to that. 974 01:14:26,996 --> 01:14:29,065 You know what Devon Pope is actually doing? 975 01:14:29,098 --> 01:14:31,034 - What? - He's writing a fan-fiction now. 976 01:14:31,067 --> 01:14:33,937 Nobody in the troop likes Donald Trump, keep this in mind, Dad. 977 01:14:33,970 --> 01:14:34,971 Okay. 978 01:14:35,004 --> 01:14:36,673 - Nobody in the troop likes him. - Okay. 979 01:14:36,706 --> 01:14:38,875 But Devon is writing a fan-fiction, 980 01:14:38,908 --> 01:14:43,179 where he is a space emperor and he has to stop the evil... 981 01:14:43,212 --> 01:14:46,750 I remember my wife coming to me and saying, 982 01:14:46,783 --> 01:14:50,086 "Would you consider getting pregnant again?" 983 01:14:50,119 --> 01:14:54,457 And I said, "I cannot think about that right now." 984 01:14:54,490 --> 01:14:59,328 But, a couple weeks later, I went back to her with my resounding yes. 985 01:14:59,362 --> 01:15:00,964 I thought it was a great idea. 986 01:15:00,997 --> 01:15:03,833 And the person I was thinking about 987 01:15:03,867 --> 01:15:06,636 wasn't me and it wasn't my wife, 988 01:15:06,670 --> 01:15:10,173 it was our son, our surviving son. 989 01:15:10,206 --> 01:15:12,375 It was very important to us 990 01:15:12,408 --> 01:15:17,380 that he have another foundation to build on in his life. 991 01:15:21,851 --> 01:15:24,153 There he is with his dwarf hat. 992 01:15:33,262 --> 01:15:38,534 Having his birthday party on the weekend, for Matty, was a hard day. 993 01:15:42,138 --> 01:15:45,742 When was the last time there was a first birthday in this house? 994 01:15:51,380 --> 01:15:55,118 I have a certain amount of envy toward my wife, especially, 995 01:15:55,151 --> 01:15:58,955 who sees Ben all the time in her dreams. 996 01:16:01,057 --> 01:16:05,862 And to people who knew him well, who see him and talk to him. 997 01:16:13,336 --> 01:16:14,671 What was that? 998 01:16:15,238 --> 01:16:17,040 Look, here we go. 999 01:16:17,073 --> 01:16:19,308 Now we're going to go the other way. You ready? 1000 01:16:19,342 --> 01:16:21,177 There they come. 1001 01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:52,075 How could someone who was in my life for six years suddenly be gone? 1002 01:16:54,443 --> 01:16:57,313 It's impossible to understand. 1003 01:17:04,387 --> 01:17:06,923 But he was here. 1004 01:17:08,357 --> 01:17:10,827 He did exist. 1005 01:17:10,860 --> 01:17:16,065 And he has a legacy that I have to fulfill for him. 1006 01:17:20,503 --> 01:17:23,072 And that I will fulfill for him. 1007 01:17:28,945 --> 01:17:30,980 Gun violence, for me, was always 1008 01:17:31,014 --> 01:17:33,382 just something that I saw in the news. 1009 01:17:33,416 --> 01:17:37,787 And I certainly never thought it would impact me or my community. 1010 01:17:39,588 --> 01:17:41,057 And then it did. 1011 01:17:43,026 --> 01:17:45,695 Like the Hockleys, we moved to Newtown 1012 01:17:45,729 --> 01:17:48,231 for the community and the schools. 1013 01:17:48,264 --> 01:17:50,366 My wife, Jackie, is a school teacher. 1014 01:17:53,169 --> 01:17:54,037 Yeah, cool. 1015 01:17:54,070 --> 01:17:55,438 And when we're coming in to land, 1016 01:17:55,471 --> 01:17:57,540 important thing is to get the feet up and front, okay? 1017 01:17:57,573 --> 01:17:58,507 Okay. 1018 01:17:58,541 --> 01:17:59,776 Might be coming a little fast for you. 1019 01:17:59,809 --> 01:18:02,511 Just slide along. That's how easy it is. 1020 01:18:02,545 --> 01:18:04,981 - Do you remember that? - I do. I do. 1021 01:18:15,825 --> 01:18:18,394 I don't want closure. 1022 01:18:18,427 --> 01:18:21,731 I mean, how could I ever possibly say, "Okay, I'm over this now." 1023 01:18:21,765 --> 01:18:23,733 I mean, there is no closure. 1024 01:18:26,602 --> 01:18:33,242 I had my first dream, real vivid dream that this happened. 1025 01:18:33,276 --> 01:18:37,146 But somehow, he got out. He emerged and he was okay. 1026 01:18:40,049 --> 01:18:42,085 And I just grabbed him and I held him to me. 1027 01:18:42,118 --> 01:18:45,454 And I was just wailing and shrieking, 1028 01:18:45,488 --> 01:18:49,025 crying in joy that he was back. 80834

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