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I jumped out of the way and said oh my
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god this plane is gonna crash this thing
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came right across north to south
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incidentally I was a private pilot so I
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have some familiarity with their glided
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over my house and there was no sorry but
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I thought that kind of a boomerang shape
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oh my god that's a wingspan I've never
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seen anything like that they were
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reported by at least one commercial
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airline pilot it passed right in front
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of us just about right above eyes length
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no I don't hear anything what in the
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hell is that
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I came out second after Monica and I
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remember looking at it was coming over
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the mountain and it was like almost is
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why it is one of the humps and it was
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very low it's coming across the sky and
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as it's moving it's blocking and
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unblocking the stars there is actually a
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shape it was more like a boomerang like
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a straight V and then the lights were
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spaced pretty evenly it was actually
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five lights that were a V one in front
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two and two on each side and it was
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perfect it was a perfect triangle if you
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can imagine something the size a
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Camelback Mountain floating down
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Scottsdale Road you have some idea of
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the intensity of this thing the object
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we saw if we opened up a newspaper you
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could not block out the object that we
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saw people say Mike no you saw a b-2
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bomber my response was we could land all
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40 of our b-2 bombers on the wing of
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that craft you know is it's it's one of
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the biggest things I've ever seen that
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they moved like that I mean it was just
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enormous it happened last night and
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eyewitnesses who saw it say it's like
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nothing they've ever seen before I don't
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know if it was as big as an aircraft
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carrier it might have been because I've
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never seen an aircraft carrier fly it
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barely missed that mountain yeah came
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floating over the night so had you not
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looked up you wouldn't know no my
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daughter it was 8:30 at night my
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daughter was coming over here and she
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ran in and said mom you have got to see
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this
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there was such an uproar about what
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people described seeing that we also did
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a story about it back in 1997 the first
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report of a strange flying object came
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at about 8:20 that night from a former
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police officer in hauled in Arizona over
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the next 40 minutes people gave similar
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reports of an object along a 200-mile
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route south to Phoenix and Tucson it was
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a gunmetal black it wasn't shiny it
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wasn't invisible it was more of a dull
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bluish black color and they both just
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stayed there and looked at it for a
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couple minutes and that was completely
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silent
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when you look down the street on a hot
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day in Phoenix above the streets like
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it's really wavy and you see everything
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kind of distorted I asked what it looked
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like up inside the middle of the craft
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it was just gliding and then it stopped
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and then it like the sides retracted a
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little and then it was gone
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acceleration to deceleration it was no
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noise the whole time and not a sound
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explanations have been tossed about that
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they were flares there were planes
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flying in formation but market robbing
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we check with the FAA today we checked
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with Sky Harbor we checked Luke Air
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Force Base and there's been no official
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explanation of those strange bright
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lights let's go I'm gonna order a you
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know investigation of this through DPS
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we're gonna make all the necessary
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inquiries and we're gonna get to the
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bottom of we're gonna find out if it was
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a UFO
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I'm patty Kirkpatrick remember those
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mysterious lights in the sky well the
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governor says there are new leads in the
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case
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good evening Arizona Governor is holding
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a news conference on the lights in the
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sky over Phoenix in March let's listen
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in and now I'll ask officer Stein and
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his colleagues to escort the accused
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into the room so that we may all look
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upon the guilty party and don't get him
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too close to me please this just goes to
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show that you guys are entirely too
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serious I think what really irritated me
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was the joke the governor pulled with
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the Martian you know I just didn't have
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time for that kind of stuff
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he was just dismissing everything that
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these people had seen and said just like
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we're all Looney Tunes and I know what I
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saw and that's not what you're telling
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me what I saw I didn't see flares I
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didn't see a 10 or Warthog so how about
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we work together and try to figure out
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what this thing is
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so when you hear someone says they saw
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UFO you what you think they're crazy yes
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I think what puzzles me is why people
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laugh at the subject of UFOs but when
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the laughter stops everyone secretly
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wants to know are they real I don't know
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if I want to know if UFOs are real
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because then that raises a lot of other
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issues who are they why are they here
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are they gonna hurt me
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do they have chocolate when I told my
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father I wanted to make a documentary
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about UFOs he said it was crazy in fact
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my whole family did and 95% of the time
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this stuff is crazy but the remaining 5%
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that is what keeps me going this man in
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the saucer can you describe him what
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you're mistaken dear I'm James Fox and
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I've been curious about UFOs for a long
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time very curious that evidently the Air
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Force is curious too in pursuit of this
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obligation and in 1952 they admitted it
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we have received and analyzed between
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one and two thousand reports there have
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been a certain percentage of this volume
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of reports that have been made by
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credible observers of relatively
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incredible things all blocked up with
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the help of investigative reporter
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Lesley came I decided to put together
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some of the best witnesses from around
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the world for this film almost ten years
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after the termination of budget looking
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at the cases and photographs you are
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about to see represent some of the best
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evidence that UFOs are real
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that's of unknown origin what were they
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after because aneema like that came down
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on our feet as james beams were going
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down into the WSFA we are all in the
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limo and we're on the operator and the
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targets verify that several said they
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were looking for fissile material here
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the same question over and over if UFOs
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are real then surely someone in the know
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would be talking so whatever we actually
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you guys
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yes
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good evening a historic occasion will
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take place in Washington on Monday
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former high-level government employees
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military officials and pilots from all
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over the world will come together
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they'll discuss their own UFO sightings
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and encounters and they'll do it at the
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National Press Club in the nation's
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capital this group has gathered together
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to call on the United States government
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to take an active role in investigating
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cases involving unidentified flying
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objects James Fox will be there Monday -
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absolutely yes to establish the fact
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that the phenomenon is real and it's and
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it's happening worldwide five-o we're
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now saying that the United States is
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taking this seriously or is this just an
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event I think the United States is
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taking it seriously and they they need
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to it's it's long overdue and you're
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gonna moderate it I'm gonna moderate it
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I'm five Symington in 1997 during my
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second term as governor of Arizona
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I saw something that defied logic and
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challenged my reality before this event
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I met with the governor at his home to
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find out why he ridiculed the sighting
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we were in the middle of investigating
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it and just couldn't get any answers
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paralleling that activity was this
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almost hysterical environment that was
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building it the hysteria the governor
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told me what was actually going on
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behind the scenes and we called Luke Air
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Force Base and we called the FAA and I
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called various touch base with people I
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called my general at the at the National
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Guard nobody had an explanation people
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just sort of said well we just don't
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know what it is
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Phoenix Councilwoman Frances Barwood was
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one of the only elected representatives
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willing to push for an investigation I
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would have thought that they would have
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wanted to do an investigation but
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apparently they would rather ignore it I
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don't know why at Barr woods request
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Senator John McCain looked into the
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matter personally
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we asked the Air Force to look into it
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and this was the first response that
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we've got and we're gonna go back and
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and ask them to look at it again Senator
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McCain wrote letters to both the
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National Archives and the Air Force both
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claimed not to have jurisdiction over
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such matters I was kind of surprised at
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at that response but there are people
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who said they saw things and whenever
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that happens they deserve the at least
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an investigation seems to me
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the air force explanation eventually
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provided to Senator McCain was military
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flares dropped from a-10 warthogs
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between 9:30 and 10:00 p.m.
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oh my god I hit paydirt finally
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according to some analysts these lights
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captured on film were flares is a
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totally different configuration we've
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ever seen yep but this does not account
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for the large boomerang shaped object
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seen by the governor in hundreds
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possibly thousands of others across the
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state beginning several hours earlier I
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mean it clearly had a shape to it and it
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in a big shape and and it was a constant
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shape and you you can't control flares
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that way there's just no way they were
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flares why can't you tell us I mean
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what's it gonna hurt I would like I
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would like for them to come out and say
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that's top secret and we're not gonna
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tell you what it was the V formation I
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was only able to find one video taken of
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the earlier sightings I was however
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given this video taken by an Army
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colonel a few years earlier it reminds
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me of what Arizona witnesses described
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scene
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I don't hear anything you know I don't
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hear anything what in the hell is that
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you see the stars you see through it
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right there's a Jessie it now and it's
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it's that's not planes flying
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information behind it either it's
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another that's another triangle
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what would you say to the people about
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it I'd say I saw an unidentified flying
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object of massive proportions float over
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the City of Phoenix and Scottsdale and I
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don't have that damnedest clue what it
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was I saw it it was over my house I saw
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it for five minutes it wasn't something
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that was a flash that I only saw for a
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second could it have been I know what I
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saw and I get very upset and I was
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wondering why they won't find out what
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it was
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govenor Symington i am bill burns from
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the History Channel
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just a quick question when you were
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giving your press conference back in
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Phoenix were there any external
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pressures on you to defuse a situation
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in the way you did or did anyone
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instruct you not to comment on the truth
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of what was happening in Phoenix well
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the only external pressure and it was
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significant was the fact that there was
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just this massive public reaction to the
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the lights over Phoenix I mean we've
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just being inundated by the press and
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people coming into my office saying this
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thing is just reaching heights of
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hysteria and concern I'd never seen that
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before I mean I've been in office for
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quite a while and I'd never seen kind of
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that reaction and so three of us sort of
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sat down at the end and decided to to
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try to lighten the mood a little bit
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well I'd like now to set the record
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straight I never meant to ridicule
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anyone my office did make enquiries as
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to the origin of the craft but to this
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day they remain unanswered I still don't
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know what it was as a pilot and a former
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Air Force officer I can definitively say
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that this craft did not resemble any
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man-made object that I'd ever seen
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well I now know that I'm not alone in
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witnessing something extraordinary
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that's the bottom line
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there are many high ranking military
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aviation and government officials many
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of whom are here today and share my
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concerns some of them have truly
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exceptional stories to tell hundreds of
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people saw a majestic triangular craft
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with a span of approximately 120 feet
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powerful beaming spotlights moving very
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slowly without making any significant
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noise but in several cases accelerating
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to very high speeds
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physical traces on the ground from the
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craft were confirmed by the local police
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the official conclusion of Japan in 1979
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was that about 15 percent of the cases
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remained unidentified after careful
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analysis by our experts for instances k
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miyazaki a signet rojito tenía una de
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Metro diametre estaba como es mal Tod o
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con una cupula de color crema sobre una
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vez a Metallica ante a circular no tenia
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motorist Mishka pays me ventanas
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neeyala's on Tina's car Asya de todos
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los implementers typical un avión is
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Inigo sistema visible laser propulsion
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lament a lament a el tema relational
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goal of sadness san quentin weaken Tammy
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now equally important thing and clear
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information falsa most UFO sightings
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turned out to be misidentifications of
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things such as aircraft satellites and
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meteors
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but in around 5% of cases no explanation
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could be found Washington DC is no
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stranger to this story
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they sausage be some kind of a secret
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weapon of ours no if they were air
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material command to be the first to know
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how about a device from a foreign
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country we know they're not what is your
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opinion colonel
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the US air force's involvement with UFOs
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started back in World War two when
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pilots reported being followed by
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luminous orbs there were nicknamed Foo
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Fighters
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by 1947 flying saucer sightings were
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getting national coverage they flew like
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erratically like like a saucer what if
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it if you have skipped it across the
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water according to this memo titled
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opinion concerning flying discs by
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general Nathan twining the phenomenon
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reported is something real and not
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visionary or fictitious it just come up
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like that and tipped and just I'm a
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really wet it didn't have no smoke no
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motor just to wind it went fast
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I've never seen anything go so fast in
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my life as that thing went yeah the
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sightings over Washington in July 1952
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were just part of one of the biggest and
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most impressive UFO waves in all UFO
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history this incident was witnessed by
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the public military pilots and air
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traffic control pilots went aloft they
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saw luminous glowing object out in front
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of him right where the radar indicated
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it to be so you had ground radar
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airborne radar and the pilots visual
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sightings look magazine reported that
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radar operators at Washington National
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Airport tracked UFOs at speeds up to
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7,000 miles per hour
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I am here to discuss the so-called
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flying saucers Major General Sanford who
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was a director of information of the air
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force called a press conference which
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was characterized at the time as being
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the largest press conference since World
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War two air force interest in this
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problem then due to our feeling of an
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obligation to identify and analyze to
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the best of our ability anything in the
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air that may have the possibility of
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threat or menace to the United States
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there have been a certain percentage of
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this volume of reports that have been
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made by credible observers of relatively
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incredible things
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it is this group of observations that we
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now are attempting to resolve the Joint
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Chiefs of Staff talk to you or concern
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you about the unknown I gonna buy
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flooring of it oh yes we discussed it at
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every conference that we had with the
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military and they never had been and
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never were able to make me a concrete
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report on you never what makes you don't
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think there no I am and anything on the
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subject there's always things like that
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going on at flying saucers they were
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senior Air Force generals convinced that
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we had interplanetary visitors and they
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were setting the policy and they were
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behind the Life magazine article of I
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believe April 1952 which was titled do
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we have interplanetary visitors
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didn't read the story the answer
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obviously was yes with the cooperation
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of the United States Air Force
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Life magazine conducted an exhaustive
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one-year study out of a number of
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conclusions this one caught my eye no
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power plant known or projected on earth
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could account for the performance of
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these devices six-hour hose is a
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journalist and a qualified pilot he saw
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what he believed to be a flying saucer
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but a flight from Winnipeg to Vancouver
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and get aircraft so we're very high
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about 37,000 feet coming up on the
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mountain this brought sunset this
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unexplained light was or a disc-shaped
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object was down in the darkness so I
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just have another camera with me and we
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took the picture in my opinion I think
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they were worried that they would panic
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the public if they knew that someone had
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vehicles that had this kind of
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performance way back right after World
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War two period of time so they started
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telling lies about it dr. J Allen Hynek
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investigated UFOs for the United States
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Air Force for over 22 years
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the most well-known of these
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investigations was Project Blue Book
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where media is not in this 1979
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interview dr. Hynek revealed why the Air
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Force changed its public position they
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were strongly guided by the CIA because
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the CIA was not concerned so much with
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UFOs as they were with UFO reports they
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were afraid actually that if another
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nation water perpetrated another Pearl
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Harbor that if their agents spawned a
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bunch of false flying saucer stories
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that might clog the military worse has
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actually happened in 1952 so they
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devised the so-called Robertson panel
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which I was an associate member at the
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time a very prestigious panel I was one
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of the lower ranking ones that they had
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Nobel Prize winners and whatnot on it
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but at any rate they handed down the
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dictum which then became sort of the
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unwritten law of the Air Force don't
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rock the boat play it down cool it don't
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get the public excited sure there are
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spaceships and they serve at you and the
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Air Force or in cahoots well first of
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all this business about being in cahoots
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interesting for your downright falsehood
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and I know having been in Blue Book for
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nearly 20 years that whenever an
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interesting case came up the very last
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thing in the world they would do is to
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notify the media and when the media
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themselves found out something the
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airport did its best to play a dumb it's
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called it a balloon called it a star
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called it boom meteors satellite FF seen
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with the Sun glinting off of them and
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the birds our critics continually
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charged that the earth those air forces
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withholding information from the general
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public on this subject
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this is absolutely untrue and there's
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nothing in the record which would
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indicate that we have been visited by
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any advanced civilization there's
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nothing to hide there's nothing to hide
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it off good evening reports of flying
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saucers are nothing new when it got to
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the top of the trees it stopped look
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like a round tip residents of the area
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saw it
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to the police saw it sergeant Newell
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Snyder of the Sheriff's Office
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remembered it well enough to draw it
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what do you think it was well they call
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it a flying saucer that's what it is
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the Air Force that has chief scientific
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consultant on UFOs professor J Allen
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Hynek to check the Michigan sightings a
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little bit of swamp right appears here
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it goes out another one appears over
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here that goes the citizens of Michigan
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didn't buy it then congressman Gerald
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Ford to investigate sufficient to
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justify some action by our government
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and not the kind of flippin answer that
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was given by the Air Force where they
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yeah this is not an attack on the air
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for sportsmen or the project spokesman
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they are simply following orders to
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explain away all UFO sightings as
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quickly as possible when they become
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public and deny that you for really
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exist scientists were being misled even
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as the public was being misled and to
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this day most scientists have no inkling
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of the serious hardcore evidence because
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now it's all treated like a tabloid
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subject are you sorry now that you did
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tell people what you saw yes I am I'm
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sorry because not that it's not the
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truth but it's just the idea that
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reaction of the people they think you're
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a nut tell you the truth that's just
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what they figure you are and I'm not
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gonna take it from why I don't want
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nobody down in here and I just leave me
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alone and if it's the thing lands like
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turn right over there that pump I'd
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never say a word
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ten years ago in 1969 they closed
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Bluebook and I thought for a while that
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maybe well maybe this was finally going
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to be over but since that time we've had
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about 25,000 more UFO reports many of
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the hundreds of people reporting the
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sightings believe they've all seen the
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same object it's called the Hudson
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Valley UFO
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that quick I'll be talking to tell you
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something funny I don't know what color
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did it moved in a very straight line
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very slowly
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there was absolutely no noise there was
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not a sound and it moves smoothly very
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smoothly almost like it was floating it
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00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:55,929
was silent it was hovering
550
00:27:55,929 --> 00:27:59,860
I mean airplanes can hover do you
551
00:27:59,860 --> 00:28:02,549
believe you're both first and no sure
552
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:05,200
how do you know that you're not being
553
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,669
used how do you know that you know the
554
00:28:06,669 --> 00:28:09,029
full story
555
00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:16,230
my name's Gary Tuchman with CNN and this
556
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:17,790
questions for the governor and mr.
557
00:28:17,790 --> 00:28:19,800
Callahan this really is a government
558
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,450
that doesn't mind scaring us
559
00:28:21,450 --> 00:28:23,040
we still have orange alerts and red
560
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,170
alerts and they scare us all the time it
561
00:28:25,170 --> 00:28:27,480
keeps people at work so I'm wondering
562
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,240
why you think and you just state that
563
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,160
that's the reason and that's it is that
564
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,630
really the motivation for a government
565
00:28:33,630 --> 00:28:34,710
that doesn't mind scaring us
566
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:38,490
if these phenomena are as
567
00:28:38,490 --> 00:28:40,260
technologically advanced as they appear
568
00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:43,080
to be then one could say that we're
569
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,300
completely vulnerable as a civilization
570
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:48,090
and that's to some people that might be
571
00:28:48,090 --> 00:28:50,730
horrifying and I'm just speculating on
572
00:28:50,730 --> 00:28:52,530
that that feeling of vulnerability and
573
00:28:52,530 --> 00:28:54,000
so a lot of people like to say well you
574
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,110
know we're not vulnerable that's just
575
00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:57,090
not true that didn't happen and they
576
00:28:57,090 --> 00:29:09,570
shot it out of their minds table
577
00:29:09,570 --> 00:29:14,370
introduction because you know few of us
578
00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:18,590
have only just met and things like that
579
00:29:20,990 --> 00:29:24,870
last evening they did the survey on the
580
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:26,970
internet and they asked people do you
581
00:29:26,970 --> 00:29:28,440
believe in UFOs
582
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,120
what was the result seventy-five or
583
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,930
eighty percent
584
00:29:51,330 --> 00:29:53,340
the night before our big event at the
585
00:29:53,340 --> 00:29:55,470
National Press Club we've all met for
586
00:29:55,470 --> 00:30:02,610
dinner my dream was coming true here I
587
00:30:02,610 --> 00:30:05,520
was surrounded by credible people who
588
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,530
were about to share incredible stories
589
00:30:07,530 --> 00:30:10,290
so these are reliable witnesses yeah
590
00:30:10,290 --> 00:30:14,040
there were generals pilots physicists an
591
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,150
FAA official an Air Force colonel I'd
592
00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:19,650
never been in a room full of so many
593
00:30:19,650 --> 00:30:21,840
people of this caliber comfortably
594
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:28,320
talking about the existence of UFOs we
595
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,390
were enjoying our time together it was
596
00:30:30,390 --> 00:30:32,160
remarkable how everyone had something
597
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,440
extraordinary in common there was a
598
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,450
mutual understanding and I got some
599
00:30:36,450 --> 00:30:38,820
answers to some big questions why did
600
00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:40,530
the French government do what they did
601
00:30:40,530 --> 00:30:42,780
by releasing the UFO FILES just recently
602
00:30:42,780 --> 00:30:47,220
it took 15 years to convince to do
603
00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:50,160
something despite the public position of
604
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,460
the US government somebody whether it
605
00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:55,050
was on an official or a sort of
606
00:30:55,050 --> 00:30:57,510
back-channel basis but somebody most
607
00:30:57,510 --> 00:31:00,720
definitely was looking into the UFO
608
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,550
phenomenon if you're not capable to
609
00:31:02,550 --> 00:31:06,660
identify whatever flies around there is
610
00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:08,820
something wrong could you say something
611
00:31:08,820 --> 00:31:10,230
very quickly one of the things I always
612
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:11,820
remember you talking about was when
613
00:31:11,820 --> 00:31:13,740
you'd be at a cocktail party and the
614
00:31:13,740 --> 00:31:15,870
subject would come up with UFOs and you
615
00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:17,040
sat with one on the ground for
616
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,570
forty-five minutes and you'd bite your
617
00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:21,660
tongue what was that like it was
618
00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:23,610
difficult but you know in some ways
619
00:31:23,610 --> 00:31:25,200
there was some kind of satisfaction
620
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,750
involved there and they're talking about
621
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:31,960
stuff there what if and I knew
622
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,410
my name is James Penniston United States
623
00:31:35,410 --> 00:31:39,100
Air Force retired in 1980 I was assigned
624
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:41,080
to the largest Tactical Fighter Wing in
625
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,570
the Air Force at the time I was
626
00:31:43,570 --> 00:31:45,400
stationed at RAF Woodbridge England
627
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,920
shortly after midnight on the 26th of
628
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,830
December 1980
629
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:52,930
Staff Sergeant Stefan's briefed me that
630
00:31:52,930 --> 00:31:55,780
some lights were seen in Rendlesham
631
00:31:55,780 --> 00:32:00,610
forest just outside the back gate he
632
00:32:00,610 --> 00:32:03,430
informed me that whatever he seen didn't
633
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:07,690
crash he told me it landed I then
634
00:32:07,690 --> 00:32:11,830
ordered Airmen Caban Zak a1c burles to
635
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:15,580
respond with me off site that night we
636
00:32:15,580 --> 00:32:18,100
were on security one which was in charge
637
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:20,560
of mobile security for the Woodbridge
638
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,240
base and we responded to jimbros his
639
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,090
sighting of something out on the edge of
640
00:32:28,090 --> 00:32:30,400
the flight line or the controller on the
641
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,830
radio broadcast over the air that go
642
00:32:32,830 --> 00:32:35,080
down and check out a possible UFO there
643
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,100
was a craft of some sort that was
644
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:42,750
sitting just inside the tree line right
645
00:32:42,750 --> 00:32:46,270
- defected crash site it quickly became
646
00:32:46,270 --> 00:32:48,760
apparent that we were not dealing with a
647
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,060
plane crash or for that matter anything
648
00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:54,130
else we've ever responded to Burroughs
649
00:32:54,130 --> 00:32:55,510
would say - Jim Penniston do you see
650
00:32:55,510 --> 00:32:57,250
that you see do you see what's out there
651
00:32:57,250 --> 00:32:59,950
at that at the edge of the trees it was
652
00:32:59,950 --> 00:33:03,400
just bright lights you know and the only
653
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,900
way you can describe it is it I guess
654
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:06,550
you'd call it an object at the point in
655
00:33:06,550 --> 00:33:08,560
time three of us had direct observation
656
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,380
of the craft I then asked Airmen kanban
657
00:33:11,380 --> 00:33:13,270
sac to relate the radio transmissions
658
00:33:13,270 --> 00:33:15,940
back to our control center Burl's and I
659
00:33:15,940 --> 00:33:18,610
proceeded towards the craft the only
660
00:33:18,610 --> 00:33:20,140
noise we heard out in the woods was the
661
00:33:20,140 --> 00:33:22,570
noise of the animals just as burles and
662
00:33:22,570 --> 00:33:24,490
I entered a tree line the shape of the
663
00:33:24,490 --> 00:33:26,390
craft was defined
664
00:33:26,390 --> 00:33:28,580
the closer we got the more the white
665
00:33:28,580 --> 00:33:30,710
light dissipated but what appeared was a
666
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:34,820
trying of craft when we approached it it
667
00:33:34,820 --> 00:33:38,360
was oh I say measured probably about
668
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:44,390
nine feet long maybe six feet high a
669
00:33:44,390 --> 00:33:46,310
little higher me maybe six and a half
670
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:46,820
feet
671
00:33:46,820 --> 00:33:48,920
the lighting emanated from the fabric of
672
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,050
the craft and it would actually move
673
00:33:51,050 --> 00:33:52,670
around I mean it would move you'd have
674
00:33:52,670 --> 00:33:54,950
different locations where maybe a little
675
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:57,590
blue lighting was going into or maybe a
676
00:33:57,590 --> 00:34:00,260
little red and then there must have been
677
00:34:00,260 --> 00:34:02,150
some type of lighting underneath of it
678
00:34:02,150 --> 00:34:04,730
because it's silhouetted the aircraft
679
00:34:04,730 --> 00:34:08,660
itself I went around and started doing a
680
00:34:08,660 --> 00:34:10,760
360 walk around the area taking
681
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,430
recording my observations I was looking
682
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:15,410
underneath the craft like that I had
683
00:34:15,410 --> 00:34:18,350
taken quite detailed notes on that type
684
00:34:18,350 --> 00:34:23,660
of aircraft still unknown the old parent
685
00:34:23,660 --> 00:34:28,160
landing gear no sound but appears to be
686
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,890
pulsating somehow yeah it was pretty
687
00:34:30,890 --> 00:34:33,530
nerve-wracking I mean when you're there
688
00:34:33,530 --> 00:34:34,850
something there right in front of you
689
00:34:34,850 --> 00:34:36,890
don't know what it is I would go ahead
690
00:34:36,890 --> 00:34:41,360
and feel the craft which was warm there
691
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,750
was static electricity in the air very
692
00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:47,270
warm to touch identifying markings are
693
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:50,030
on left front side as I came around to
694
00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:53,540
the one side of the of craft there was
695
00:34:53,540 --> 00:34:55,990
edging
696
00:34:56,739 --> 00:34:59,259
face me just above the center part of
697
00:34:59,259 --> 00:35:01,629
the craft itself of course this is done
698
00:35:01,629 --> 00:35:03,549
all freehand as I was walking around the
699
00:35:03,549 --> 00:35:06,099
craft but these symbols trans from left
700
00:35:06,099 --> 00:35:08,679
to right across and then underneath the
701
00:35:08,679 --> 00:35:11,369
those that line the symbols was this
702
00:35:11,369 --> 00:35:14,679
which is triangular and some type of
703
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,169
circle here some type of circle here in
704
00:35:17,169 --> 00:35:19,269
a larger circle here and of course all
705
00:35:19,269 --> 00:35:21,909
this was filled in with thee like the
706
00:35:21,909 --> 00:35:26,949
etching part of it I was curious about
707
00:35:26,949 --> 00:35:28,989
the symbols that Jim Penniston copied in
708
00:35:28,989 --> 00:35:29,589
his logbook
709
00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:34,268
I had these symbols enlarged and then
710
00:35:34,268 --> 00:35:35,699
showed him to cryptologist and
711
00:35:35,699 --> 00:35:38,829
mathematician Georg taglish I wanted to
712
00:35:38,829 --> 00:35:41,319
know if he had any ideas as to what they
713
00:35:41,319 --> 00:35:44,289
might mean the first symbol looks to me
714
00:35:44,289 --> 00:35:47,889
like a vessel with a steering or a float
715
00:35:47,889 --> 00:35:51,190
in some sort of medium the second symbol
716
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:54,489
looks like a glyph associated with a
717
00:35:54,489 --> 00:35:57,159
mathematical idea known as the fibrin
718
00:35:57,159 --> 00:35:59,829
Archie series which is found everywhere
719
00:35:59,829 --> 00:36:03,399
in nature and this is what we have here
720
00:36:03,399 --> 00:36:06,239
the root of a fiber nature series one
721
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,299
two and three taken as a whole - rather
722
00:36:10,299 --> 00:36:11,768
clever glyph all in one
723
00:36:11,768 --> 00:36:14,529
mr. dag was stressed that this was only
724
00:36:14,529 --> 00:36:16,690
speculation but I found his
725
00:36:16,690 --> 00:36:18,489
interpretations quite interesting
726
00:36:18,489 --> 00:36:21,009
especially since I've always heard that
727
00:36:21,009 --> 00:36:22,869
the only universal language would be
728
00:36:22,869 --> 00:36:27,970
mathematics from that clip how did you
729
00:36:27,970 --> 00:36:31,390
decipher theirs they could represent an
730
00:36:31,390 --> 00:36:35,259
apse in an orbit a perigee or an Apogee
731
00:36:35,259 --> 00:36:39,940
and if they are APS's Apogee and perigee
732
00:36:39,940 --> 00:36:43,839
as it means that the orbiter is doing a
733
00:36:43,839 --> 00:36:49,299
highly processive orbit so if you are
734
00:36:49,299 --> 00:36:51,190
going to survey a planet and this is an
735
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:53,500
orbiter as you know which would be a
736
00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:55,480
very sensible arrangement if you were
737
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,369
using the vehicle as a surveying vehicle
738
00:36:57,369 --> 00:36:59,680
because you get a maximum look at the
739
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,580
planet
740
00:37:00,580 --> 00:37:02,890
I don't think they were trying to send
741
00:37:02,890 --> 00:37:04,540
us a metaphysical message about the
742
00:37:04,540 --> 00:37:06,310
beauty of life or the proposer
743
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:08,080
what the reason for the universe or
744
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,040
anything like that or their own
745
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,280
existence I think it's just more
746
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,680
utilitarian marking so they knew what
747
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,880
craft they were dealing with I knew that
748
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,180
that craft could not have been made by
749
00:37:22,180 --> 00:37:24,420
man
750
00:37:27,210 --> 00:37:31,010
and then they started moving back in
751
00:37:31,010 --> 00:37:34,650
between the trees with absolutely no
752
00:37:34,650 --> 00:37:38,150
sound no air disturbance at all takeoff
753
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:42,290
unknown speed and I write impossible I
754
00:37:42,290 --> 00:37:44,849
mean it was threatening to Mia but it
755
00:37:44,849 --> 00:37:46,800
wasn't the type that you were going to
756
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,540
shoot on it and also the fact was that
757
00:37:48,540 --> 00:37:50,460
what would happen if I would have shot
758
00:37:50,460 --> 00:37:52,859
at him well you look good with it have
759
00:37:52,859 --> 00:37:58,589
done that night over 80 Air Force
760
00:37:58,589 --> 00:38:03,960
personnel all trained observers assigned
761
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,240
to the 81st security police squadron
762
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:09,180
witnessed the takeoff the information
763
00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:10,920
acquired during that investigation was
764
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,069
reported through my military channels
765
00:38:13,069 --> 00:38:16,290
the team and witnesses were told to
766
00:38:16,290 --> 00:38:18,829
treat the investigation as top-secret
767
00:38:18,829 --> 00:38:21,980
thank you
768
00:38:26,110 --> 00:38:28,370
as the deputy base commander Colonel
769
00:38:28,370 --> 00:38:30,500
Charles halt was in charge of the
770
00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:33,290
investigation when he too became a
771
00:38:33,290 --> 00:38:36,290
witness in late December 1980 I was
772
00:38:36,290 --> 00:38:38,240
called upon to investigate a very
773
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,490
strange event an event that was
774
00:38:40,490 --> 00:38:42,230
distracting our security police from
775
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:44,540
their primary duties I believe that he
776
00:38:44,540 --> 00:38:45,800
would offer to debunk the whole
777
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,080
situation and I think he got in the
778
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,850
middle of a situation he couldn't
779
00:38:49,850 --> 00:38:52,100
explain either two nights later at the
780
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:54,500
family Christmas party I was interrupted
781
00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:57,620
by the on-duty police commander he told
782
00:38:57,620 --> 00:39:01,330
of strange events and said it was back
783
00:39:01,330 --> 00:39:04,040
since my boss had to present Awards I
784
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,410
was tasked to go out and investigate I
785
00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:09,580
fully expected to find an explanation
786
00:39:09,580 --> 00:39:12,080
during this entire event I was fortunate
787
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,820
to have with me and my small pocket
788
00:39:13,820 --> 00:39:15,020
recorder it's a little ending what
789
00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:16,880
you're about to hear are excerpts from
790
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,830
the original recording made that night
791
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:50,040
one approached a very high speed and
792
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:55,190
sent on a strange beam right at our feet
793
00:40:03,890 --> 00:40:06,510
another object sent down beams of light
794
00:40:06,510 --> 00:40:09,210
into the weapons storage area the whole
795
00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:10,620
time we had difficulty communicating
796
00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:12,930
with the base has all three radio
797
00:40:12,930 --> 00:40:15,090
frequencies we were using kept breaking
798
00:40:15,090 --> 00:40:18,780
up I have no idea what we saw that night
799
00:40:18,780 --> 00:40:21,210
but I do know with great certainty it
800
00:40:21,210 --> 00:40:28,800
was under intelligent control five star
801
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,810
Admiral Lord Hill Norton had been
802
00:40:30,810 --> 00:40:32,760
pressuring Parliament to provide clear
803
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,090
answers on this case I wanted to know if
804
00:40:36,090 --> 00:40:38,940
he believed a UFO actually landed at a
805
00:40:38,940 --> 00:40:41,850
u.s. airbase in England that is one
806
00:40:41,850 --> 00:40:44,010
explanation that it actually happened as
807
00:40:44,010 --> 00:40:47,180
Colonel Holt reported the other
808
00:40:47,180 --> 00:40:51,930
explanation is that it didn't and in
809
00:40:51,930 --> 00:40:55,170
that case one is bound to assume that
810
00:40:55,170 --> 00:40:57,660
Colonel Holt and all his men were
811
00:40:57,660 --> 00:41:01,170
hallucinating the British Ministry of
812
00:41:01,170 --> 00:41:03,540
Defense's position is that nothing of
813
00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:06,390
any defence interest took place this
814
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:08,640
position was strongly criticized by the
815
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,000
Admiral that the colonel of a an
816
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,570
American Air Force Base in Suffolk and
817
00:41:15,570 --> 00:41:19,080
his Merry Men are hallucinating when
818
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,150
there are nuclear armed aircraft on the
819
00:41:21,150 --> 00:41:24,690
base must be of Defence interest if
820
00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:27,480
indeed what he says took place did take
821
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,000
place and why on earth did he make it up
822
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,430
then surely the entry of a vehicle from
823
00:41:34,430 --> 00:41:38,730
outer space certainly not man-made to a
824
00:41:38,730 --> 00:41:41,700
defence base in this country also cannot
825
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:45,450
fail to be of Defence interest outside
826
00:41:45,450 --> 00:41:47,490
the Parliament building I met with Nick
827
00:41:47,490 --> 00:41:50,820
Pope he investigated UFOs officially for
828
00:41:50,820 --> 00:41:52,100
the British government
829
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:56,330
I reopened the case and conducted a sort
830
00:41:56,330 --> 00:41:59,770
of cold case review of the original
831
00:41:59,770 --> 00:42:02,750
investigation and I was shocked to find
832
00:42:02,750 --> 00:42:05,270
the series of basic errors had been
833
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:07,580
committed exactly the same sorts of
834
00:42:07,580 --> 00:42:10,070
errors that often fatally undermine a
835
00:42:10,070 --> 00:42:13,280
police investigation Nick Pope shared
836
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,170
with me some startling evidence from the
837
00:42:15,170 --> 00:42:17,840
Ministry of Defense's files this is one
838
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,640
of the most important documents to
839
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,000
emerged from the mo DS case files it's
840
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,290
from an assistant director in DI 52 this
841
00:42:27,290 --> 00:42:29,270
is their assessment of the radiation
842
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:31,970
readings that Colonel halt and his team
843
00:42:31,970 --> 00:42:35,300
took at the landing site what we have
844
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:38,120
here is a plaster cast of one of the
845
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,580
three indentations the object the gym
846
00:42:40,580 --> 00:42:42,140
and the other Touma gentleman approached
847
00:42:42,140 --> 00:42:43,670
it's approximately eight to ten inches
848
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:47,420
across and about three inches deep as it
849
00:42:47,420 --> 00:42:50,600
is maximum point this is a cast number -
850
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,760
he made an impression of all three of
851
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,110
the indentations and they were all
852
00:42:54,110 --> 00:42:57,470
identical now here's the key bed these
853
00:42:57,470 --> 00:43:01,010
levels seem significantly higher than
854
00:43:01,010 --> 00:43:03,800
the average background and in fact I
855
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,540
double-check this with some other
856
00:43:05,540 --> 00:43:07,790
government scientists it's about eight
857
00:43:07,790 --> 00:43:11,540
times normal so this is absolute proof
858
00:43:11,540 --> 00:43:14,590
positive from the mo d's own
859
00:43:14,590 --> 00:43:16,700
documentation that something
860
00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:19,990
extraordinary happened
861
00:43:25,339 --> 00:43:28,289
back in America I arranged a meeting
862
00:43:28,289 --> 00:43:30,569
between Colonel halt and sergeant nevels
863
00:43:30,569 --> 00:43:32,940
one of the men who was with them that
864
00:43:32,940 --> 00:43:38,730
night a long time
865
00:43:38,730 --> 00:43:41,369
these men shared an extraordinary
866
00:43:41,369 --> 00:43:44,250
experience one that puzzles them to this
867
00:43:44,250 --> 00:43:47,700
day I was glad to have brought them
868
00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:51,420
together after 28 years if you've been
869
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:52,740
there done that it's a whole lot
870
00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:54,630
different than those skeptics did was
871
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:57,000
sometimes playing around with and they
872
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,400
can't believe us and a lot of the other
873
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,700
people that were involved especially
874
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:03,779
Penniston and Burroughs and all have had
875
00:44:03,779 --> 00:44:05,460
all kinds of complications and career
876
00:44:05,460 --> 00:44:06,809
problems I did too
877
00:44:06,809 --> 00:44:08,309
Penniston retired as a tech sergeant
878
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:14,609
probably should have made chief step by
879
00:44:14,609 --> 00:44:16,859
step Colonel halt and Sergeant nevels
880
00:44:16,859 --> 00:44:21,109
went over what happened that night
881
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:29,369
it was Caprona us yep
882
00:44:29,369 --> 00:44:32,130
no way of calculating how fast it was
883
00:44:32,130 --> 00:44:33,630
going it was just gone
884
00:44:33,630 --> 00:44:35,309
the turns were 90-degree turns they were
885
00:44:35,309 --> 00:44:38,309
just abrupt right and there's no way no
886
00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:42,930
way that anything we had in technology
887
00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:46,140
then and I don't believe the technology
888
00:44:46,140 --> 00:44:49,349
that we have today would allow anything
889
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:51,750
that we saw to make the turns the way
890
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:54,720
they turned we met with General Gordon
891
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:56,970
Williams the Wing Commander of the
892
00:44:56,970 --> 00:44:59,970
entire base he would neither confirm nor
893
00:44:59,970 --> 00:45:03,359
deny the incident he did however tell us
894
00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:05,579
how he felt about a leaked memo written
895
00:45:05,579 --> 00:45:07,650
by Deputy base commander Colonel Charles
896
00:45:07,650 --> 00:45:10,109
halt that went under the door and I
897
00:45:10,109 --> 00:45:11,880
didn't see it now did he have a
898
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,920
motivation and doing that did he think
899
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,509
that if he brought it in to me I would
900
00:45:15,509 --> 00:45:17,670
have stepped on it I certainly would
901
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:19,019
have looked at it very carefully because
902
00:45:19,019 --> 00:45:21,660
it had some things in there that I don't
903
00:45:21,660 --> 00:45:25,019
think we were prepared to defend once
904
00:45:25,019 --> 00:45:26,700
that cat was out of the bag you know I
905
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:28,140
couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together
906
00:45:28,140 --> 00:45:32,369
again and it lived its own life I just
907
00:45:32,369 --> 00:45:33,960
find this very interesting that
908
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,569
the US Air Force or government generally
909
00:45:36,569 --> 00:45:38,400
says that they don't investigate UFOs
910
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,200
since the termination of Blue Book and
911
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,750
yet you're convinced that there was an
912
00:45:42,750 --> 00:45:45,000
investigation that took place so who
913
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,250
gave the orders to do that it certainly
914
00:45:47,250 --> 00:45:48,480
didn't come from anybody that was
915
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,520
normally on the base other than in the
916
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,520
OSI I didn't tell my wife I didn't tell
917
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,140
my daughter I had a top secret clearance
918
00:45:57,140 --> 00:46:01,849
and when I was told to shut up I shut up
919
00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:08,040
son you each got seduced cease to be
920
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,630
cool come on ski on uncut into the new
921
00:46:09,630 --> 00:46:12,510
home of Nikki stop pushed it oh gee stop
922
00:46:12,510 --> 00:46:14,730
hyung it's gone although solution even
923
00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:16,319
cracks me up yo sorry mama
924
00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:20,520
I'm about to tell you is about the vent
925
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,849
that never happened for an event that
926
00:46:23,849 --> 00:46:26,309
never happened FAA official John
927
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:28,260
Callahan certainly has a lot of evidence
928
00:46:28,260 --> 00:46:30,750
they brought the voice tapes he kept
929
00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:32,819
audio recordings between the cockpit and
930
00:46:32,819 --> 00:46:35,940
the tower as the incident unfolded he
931
00:46:35,940 --> 00:46:37,589
has 30 minutes of taped radar that
932
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:41,609
confirms the UFO a chart that documents
933
00:46:41,609 --> 00:46:44,069
all the objects in the 747s flight path
934
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:48,450
and the official FAA report event that
935
00:46:48,450 --> 00:46:50,819
never happened according to Callahan all
936
00:46:50,819 --> 00:46:53,309
of this was presented to the CIA in a
937
00:46:53,309 --> 00:46:55,049
private meeting when the pilot first
938
00:46:55,049 --> 00:46:57,569
reported the UFO he described it as a
939
00:46:57,569 --> 00:46:59,010
huge ball with lights running around
940
00:46:59,010 --> 00:47:00,540
that he said it was about four times
941
00:47:00,540 --> 00:47:03,480
bigger than the 747 he was riding and
942
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,150
remember the 747 has an elevator and
943
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:07,619
he's looking out the window when he sees
944
00:47:07,619 --> 00:47:09,990
something that's four times the size of
945
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:12,119
his aircraft what you're about to see
946
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:14,640
and hear are excerpts from the actual
947
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,220
radar and cockpit conversations as the
948
00:47:17,220 --> 00:47:20,299
incident unfolded
949
00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:52,500
never sir
950
00:48:08,350 --> 00:48:11,350
okay
951
00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:30,950
within 20 seconds so a long time he says
952
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:32,750
it's over here at 12 o'clock in 8 miles
953
00:48:32,750 --> 00:48:35,960
and only and then he goes by we see a
954
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,190
target dish ten seconds later it is now
955
00:48:40,190 --> 00:48:43,130
behind him six seven miles behind him so
956
00:48:43,130 --> 00:48:45,380
what's going from from eight miles out
957
00:48:45,380 --> 00:48:47,809
here till six to seven miles back here
958
00:48:47,809 --> 00:48:50,839
really going five to six seconds when I
959
00:48:50,839 --> 00:48:52,250
went back to headquarters I gave an
960
00:48:52,250 --> 00:48:53,630
admiral wing and a quick briefing and
961
00:48:53,630 --> 00:48:55,549
showed him the video he set up a
962
00:48:55,549 --> 00:48:57,020
briefing with the President Reagan's
963
00:48:57,020 --> 00:48:59,540
scientific staff he told me my function
964
00:48:59,540 --> 00:49:02,569
was to hand this operation off to those
965
00:49:02,569 --> 00:49:04,369
people those people ended up being the
966
00:49:04,369 --> 00:49:06,619
CIA the president's group a bunch of
967
00:49:06,619 --> 00:49:10,940
grunts that came to the meeting the CIA
968
00:49:10,940 --> 00:49:15,829
said to all the people that this event
969
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:21,579
never happened we were never here and
970
00:49:21,579 --> 00:49:24,549
you're all sworn to secrecy
971
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:27,530
we are confiscating all this data and
972
00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:30,559
they did they took everything that was
973
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:32,359
in the room in those days when you print
974
00:49:32,359 --> 00:49:33,710
that out something from the computer
975
00:49:33,710 --> 00:49:36,140
fortunately he kept copies of everything
976
00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:38,240
back in his office that's the end of my
977
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:41,089
speech who are you gonna believe you
978
00:49:41,089 --> 00:49:45,069
lyin eyes oh the government
979
00:49:52,930 --> 00:49:54,860
how do you feel about your husband
980
00:49:54,860 --> 00:49:57,830
coming coming forward well I think that
981
00:49:57,830 --> 00:50:00,710
that's John John is comfortable in what
982
00:50:00,710 --> 00:50:03,740
he says and what he does and that if he
983
00:50:03,740 --> 00:50:06,560
what he sees he will tell what he sees
984
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,570
and I don't think anybody is going to
985
00:50:08,570 --> 00:50:11,300
tell him that he can't and I'm proud of
986
00:50:11,300 --> 00:50:13,820
him I think he does a good job and he's
987
00:50:13,820 --> 00:50:17,780
telling the world what should know one
988
00:50:17,780 --> 00:50:19,640
of our greatest success stories was
989
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,130
getting General Jafari from Iran to DC
990
00:50:22,130 --> 00:50:24,740
it took three months of negotiations to
991
00:50:24,740 --> 00:50:26,960
get his visa Tafari
992
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,210
was one of two Iranian fighter pilots
993
00:50:29,210 --> 00:50:32,240
ordered to intercept a UFO hovering over
994
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:36,380
Tehran Iran in 1976 the pilot in the
995
00:50:36,380 --> 00:50:40,660
first jet last instrumentation and
996
00:50:40,660 --> 00:50:45,230
communication when he got too close to
997
00:50:45,230 --> 00:50:50,500
the brilliant object so he headed back
998
00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:53,600
about ten minutes later they scrambled a
999
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,820
second jet which I was piloting general
1000
00:50:58,820 --> 00:51:01,460
Jafari scrambled his f4 phantom jet to
1001
00:51:01,460 --> 00:51:04,060
get a closer look
1002
00:51:07,060 --> 00:51:09,710
he gave us this Iranian Air Force
1003
00:51:09,710 --> 00:51:11,720
reenactment film featuring the original
1004
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:19,550
witnesses and planes even though Jafar
1005
00:51:19,550 --> 00:51:21,859
EES f-4 fighter jet was travelling at
1006
00:51:21,859 --> 00:51:23,960
the speed of sound it was nowhere near
1007
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,710
fast enough imagine when I was looking
1008
00:51:27,710 --> 00:51:32,359
here at about 70 miles out and he jumped
1009
00:51:32,359 --> 00:51:36,849
all of a sudden 10 degrees to my right
1010
00:51:36,849 --> 00:51:41,390
in this angle 10 degrees this part which
1011
00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:44,930
it was travelling becomes about twenty
1012
00:51:44,930 --> 00:51:49,280
six point seven miles per moment I don't
1013
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,460
say per second maybe maybe less than a
1014
00:51:52,460 --> 00:51:53,230
second
1015
00:51:53,230 --> 00:51:56,630
nobody true Jafar was flying towards the
1016
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:59,510
UFO when a smaller object separated from
1017
00:51:59,510 --> 00:52:04,070
it and headed right at him his only
1018
00:52:04,070 --> 00:52:07,160
instinct was to shoot at it but that
1019
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,960
turned out to be a bad idea
1020
00:52:14,820 --> 00:52:17,710
all the instrument perf lecture eating
1021
00:52:17,710 --> 00:52:22,480
the garbles in the radio so I was really
1022
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,380
frightened so I decided to turn away and
1023
00:52:26,380 --> 00:52:29,440
I said if it comes closer than about
1024
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,220
full minds I will jump out so have him
1025
00:52:33,220 --> 00:52:35,470
maneuvered away from the object Jafar
1026
00:52:35,470 --> 00:52:37,960
his control panel returned to normal and
1027
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,850
he regained contact with the tower
1028
00:52:49,950 --> 00:52:52,150
despite the United States government's
1029
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:54,190
claim that they have not investigated
1030
00:52:54,190 --> 00:52:56,140
UFOs since the closing of Project Blue
1031
00:52:56,140 --> 00:52:59,020
Book in 1969 this Defense Intelligence
1032
00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:03,280
Agency report made in 1976 indicates
1033
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,390
otherwise it was obtained through the
1034
00:53:07,390 --> 00:53:10,590
Freedom of Information Act
1035
00:53:12,650 --> 00:53:14,849
so you think the reason why they're not
1036
00:53:14,849 --> 00:53:16,590
telling us is because they can't trust
1037
00:53:16,590 --> 00:53:19,680
everyone they can't dismiss and the
1038
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,670
second one maybe as I said they don't
1039
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:30,210
want people to be panic and we don't
1040
00:53:30,210 --> 00:53:31,800
take sides on 360 we'd like to present
1041
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,359
you with facts and information from
1042
00:53:33,359 --> 00:53:34,619
different angles and let you make up
1043
00:53:34,619 --> 00:53:36,119
your own minds about things that's
1044
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:38,550
particularly true with mysteries and for
1045
00:53:38,550 --> 00:53:39,690
many Americans there's no mystery
1046
00:53:39,690 --> 00:53:42,060
greater than UFOs James Fox helped
1047
00:53:42,060 --> 00:53:43,950
organize today's UFO related event in
1048
00:53:43,950 --> 00:53:45,690
Washington he joins me now along with
1049
00:53:45,690 --> 00:53:47,430
astronomer former Air Force pilot and
1050
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:49,530
skeptic James McGee hey thanks for being
1051
00:53:49,530 --> 00:53:51,630
with us both of you why should what this
1052
00:53:51,630 --> 00:53:52,980
panel was calling for essentially is
1053
00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:54,330
some sort of government investigation
1054
00:53:54,330 --> 00:53:55,950
about why shouldn't there be further
1055
00:53:55,950 --> 00:53:57,570
investigation well there have been
1056
00:53:57,570 --> 00:53:59,700
investigation it was oh hang on a second
1057
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:01,410
let me just state this clearly one of
1058
00:54:01,410 --> 00:54:03,119
the things we gonna help you keep
1059
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:05,010
interrupting me sir please one of the
1060
00:54:05,010 --> 00:54:06,330
things I want to mention very quickly is
1061
00:54:06,330 --> 00:54:08,099
that the official position for the Air
1062
00:54:08,099 --> 00:54:09,869
Force is that they terminated Project
1063
00:54:09,869 --> 00:54:12,300
Blue Book in 1969 as there have been no
1064
00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:13,950
official investigations since then
1065
00:54:13,950 --> 00:54:16,320
however we found evidence to suggest the
1066
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,780
contrary on a number of cases in Tehran
1067
00:54:18,780 --> 00:54:20,609
the general said the Americans were
1068
00:54:20,609 --> 00:54:22,380
making discreet inquiries about the case
1069
00:54:22,380 --> 00:54:24,540
that excuse me there as well as
1070
00:54:24,540 --> 00:54:26,070
Bentwaters England the colonel said that
1071
00:54:26,070 --> 00:54:27,930
the OSI came in investigated that so you
1072
00:54:27,930 --> 00:54:29,460
believe there is a government
1073
00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:30,810
investigation going on I always wanted
1074
00:54:30,810 --> 00:54:32,070
what they're making this they're making
1075
00:54:32,070 --> 00:54:35,130
discreet inquiries unofficially yes well
1076
00:54:35,130 --> 00:54:38,790
UFOs are basically a modern space-age
1077
00:54:38,790 --> 00:54:41,760
mythology it's a it's a conspiracy
1078
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,839
wrapped and superstition and myth where
1079
00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:47,339
does this superstition and myth come
1080
00:54:47,339 --> 00:54:50,220
from and how could it be so pervasive
1081
00:54:50,220 --> 00:54:51,810
within a few months of the original
1082
00:54:51,810 --> 00:54:54,119
saucer report practically everyone in
1083
00:54:54,119 --> 00:54:59,000
America was conscious of flying saucers
1084
00:55:02,809 --> 00:55:09,269
now did you see a UFO I did and the rest
1085
00:55:09,269 --> 00:55:11,099
of the account oh I didn't I
1086
00:55:11,099 --> 00:55:13,259
it was unidentified flying object okay
1087
00:55:13,259 --> 00:55:17,999
it's like and wait kidding and then I
1088
00:55:17,999 --> 00:55:20,339
would say where was it what did it look
1089
00:55:20,339 --> 00:55:23,009
like what were you doing how much had
1090
00:55:23,009 --> 00:55:25,200
you had before it's alright it was
1091
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,730
probably some sort of some other
1092
00:55:26,730 --> 00:55:30,239
satellite or a fast-moving airplane that
1093
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,160
they saw I wouldn't believe them I mean
1094
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,559
I know there's been sightings random I'm
1095
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,690
not well documented well Jay Leno once
1096
00:55:36,690 --> 00:55:40,019
asked if these UFOs extraterrestrial are
1097
00:55:40,019 --> 00:55:42,119
so highly evolved how come it is that
1098
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:45,650
they only address people named Bubba
1099
00:55:53,509 --> 00:55:56,420
my name is Wilfred de Brouwer
1100
00:55:56,420 --> 00:55:59,190
I'm a retired Major General of the
1101
00:55:59,190 --> 00:56:01,349
Belgian Air Force and I was chief
1102
00:56:01,349 --> 00:56:05,249
operations in the air staff at the time
1103
00:56:05,249 --> 00:56:07,980
that an exceptional UFO wave took place
1104
00:56:07,980 --> 00:56:11,099
over budget the nature of the sighting
1105
00:56:11,099 --> 00:56:16,460
was such that people identify a large
1106
00:56:16,460 --> 00:56:21,170
triangular platform with very intensive
1107
00:56:21,170 --> 00:56:27,869
spotlights also hovering being static at
1108
00:56:27,869 --> 00:56:32,130
a certain moment being able to fly at
1109
00:56:32,130 --> 00:56:35,970
very low speeds and then accelerating to
1110
00:56:35,970 --> 00:56:39,920
very high speeds and seconds
1111
00:56:40,410 --> 00:56:45,120
in addition these objects didn't make
1112
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,580
any noise it was only a humming noise
1113
00:56:55,610 --> 00:56:58,880
were there ever any any inquiries from
1114
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,900
the American government to the Belgian
1115
00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:05,630
Air Force regarding identified final
1116
00:57:05,630 --> 00:57:09,010
house yes well some informal inquiries
1117
00:57:09,010 --> 00:57:11,780
but not informed I would have liked to
1118
00:57:11,780 --> 00:57:17,170
see a formal request but some people
1119
00:57:17,170 --> 00:57:21,530
came to my office and asked about this
1120
00:57:21,530 --> 00:57:23,540
phenomenon and also what we thought
1121
00:57:23,540 --> 00:57:27,590
about it and asked to have a copy of a
1122
00:57:27,590 --> 00:57:30,680
video which was taken by one of the
1123
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:35,120
aircraft which try to intercept one of
1124
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,590
these objects and I said yes you can
1125
00:57:39,590 --> 00:57:41,840
have a copy providing there is a formal
1126
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,190
request
1127
00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:50,660
we never received formal requests high
1128
00:57:50,660 --> 00:57:53,150
five for forage I do have a primary
1129
00:57:53,150 --> 00:57:57,020
contact now what everybody thank you for
1130
00:57:57,020 --> 00:57:57,980
coming this morning
1131
00:57:57,980 --> 00:58:01,670
my name is rubella and I fly a civilian
1132
00:58:01,670 --> 00:58:04,700
airliner that's captain I've been
1133
00:58:04,700 --> 00:58:06,680
invited here due to my sighting last a
1134
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,350
problem of multiple as as yet
1135
00:58:09,350 --> 00:58:10,910
unidentified objects over the Channel
1136
00:58:10,910 --> 00:58:14,410
Islands region of the English Channel
1137
00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:18,470
thanks for joining us pilots and
1138
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:20,330
aircraft passengers have confirmed
1139
00:58:20,330 --> 00:58:23,000
sightings of a large unidentified flying
1140
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,970
object off the coast of Guernsey the
1141
00:58:25,970 --> 00:58:28,160
mysterious shapes were spotted earlier
1142
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,710
in the week and are described as a long
1143
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:33,170
emotionless object that measured up to a
1144
00:58:33,170 --> 00:58:35,770
mile wide
1145
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:51,320
got a very bright object
1146
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:56,140
well how far really bright yellow-orange
1147
00:58:56,140 --> 00:58:59,270
object straight ahead very flat
1148
00:58:59,270 --> 00:59:00,590
platformer Levin and through binoculars
1149
00:59:00,590 --> 00:59:03,320
as we speak high five for forage I do
1150
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,870
have a primary contact now
1151
00:59:05,870 --> 00:59:08,060
very faint primary contact just to the
1152
00:59:08,060 --> 00:59:09,680
left cross through your 11 o'clock this
1153
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,320
time and range of about the four
1154
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:17,930
trammels contact my 12 o'clock very
1155
00:59:17,930 --> 00:59:25,010
bright yellow object looking well jersey
1156
00:59:25,010 --> 00:59:27,170
blooded a tree to design asked us to
1157
00:59:27,170 --> 00:59:29,090
look if we could see an object to which
1158
00:59:29,090 --> 00:59:32,210
is being sued by a line at the moment
1159
00:59:32,210 --> 00:59:33,260
they've got something about eight
1160
00:59:33,260 --> 00:59:37,100
o'clock resembling the description three
1161
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:38,390
to Roger what range would you estimate
1162
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:41,720
last target around about the similar
1163
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,860
range to Albany visor
1164
00:59:53,230 --> 00:59:56,750
passages can see this air brought from
1165
00:59:56,750 --> 00:59:59,140
the island visual dead ahead
1166
00:59:59,140 --> 01:00:01,760
transfer how far probably five miles but
1167
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,040
you stay on the same size trips to be
1168
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,040
often in north north northwest coast of
1169
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,430
opening a line 5/4 or do you like
1170
01:00:10,430 --> 01:00:15,350
descend down five four four I did it
1171
01:00:15,350 --> 01:00:17,720
sent off to two thousand feet the qhs 1
1172
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,350
0 to 1 10 2001 0 to 1 if we flames
1173
01:00:21,350 --> 01:00:29,030
asleep were you scared I wasn't too
1174
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:31,100
happy why it's quite glad to get on the
1175
01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:34,660
ground and have a cup of tea
1176
01:00:35,980 --> 01:00:38,780
we flew to Guernsey an island off the
1177
01:00:38,780 --> 01:00:41,120
northwest coast of France to get some
1178
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,190
first-hand testimony where the sighting
1179
01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:45,710
took place here
1180
01:00:45,710 --> 01:00:48,230
we met with captain ray Bowyer and two
1181
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:49,970
of his passengers we're traveling back
1182
01:00:49,970 --> 01:00:52,460
from Southampton to to Oldham he in in a
1183
01:00:52,460 --> 01:00:58,040
travel day I had noticed ray looking out
1184
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,540
through the windscreen with his
1185
01:00:59,540 --> 01:01:01,760
binoculars which is quite unusual I saw
1186
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,710
ray turn around and talk to someone
1187
01:01:03,710 --> 01:01:05,570
behind him while we were flying
1188
01:01:05,570 --> 01:01:07,370
no it wasn't whirring from the
1189
01:01:07,370 --> 01:01:09,560
standpoint of flying but it was unusual
1190
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,830
and he was gesturing to something down
1191
01:01:12,830 --> 01:01:15,200
below or nearing the objects a second
1192
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,810
identical shape appeared beyond the
1193
01:01:17,810 --> 01:01:20,720
first both objects were of a flattened
1194
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,160
disc shape with a dark area to the right
1195
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,390
they were brilliant yellow with light
1196
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:29,360
emanating from with him and I submitted
1197
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,280
them to be up to possibly a mile across
1198
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,730
I pointed it out to John he had to lean
1199
01:01:34,730 --> 01:01:38,540
across me to be able to see it it was it
1200
01:01:38,540 --> 01:01:42,260
was like that this is a big object in
1201
01:01:42,260 --> 01:01:46,070
the sky very very big object and I
1202
01:01:46,070 --> 01:01:47,450
didn't want to be too close to it so
1203
01:01:47,450 --> 01:01:48,860
there's at that time anyway where we had
1204
01:01:48,860 --> 01:01:52,190
to descend the land and with both
1205
01:01:52,190 --> 01:01:54,290
objects still visible and a lot of the
1206
01:01:54,290 --> 01:01:55,520
passengers in the back of the aircraft
1207
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,440
we descended through the two thousand
1208
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,340
foot Hazen layer and lost sight of it so
1209
01:02:01,340 --> 01:02:02,930
rate why didn't you bring this to the
1210
01:02:02,930 --> 01:02:04,220
attention of your passengers I mean
1211
01:02:04,220 --> 01:02:05,570
normally when a parent see something a
1212
01:02:05,570 --> 01:02:07,460
bit of interest he says if you look out
1213
01:02:07,460 --> 01:02:12,190
to your left you'll see New York a
1214
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,070
little bit away far away well it was I
1215
01:02:16,070 --> 01:02:18,200
did one on one arm anybody at that point
1216
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,239
and there again as we got closer to
1217
01:02:20,239 --> 01:02:21,920
these objects there was no hiding it
1218
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,269
they were just there
1219
01:02:33,710 --> 01:02:35,540
take a note of some of the differences
1220
01:02:35,540 --> 01:02:38,450
between the British and the US reporting
1221
01:02:38,450 --> 01:02:39,109
system
1222
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:41,030
it appears that have to choose on
1223
01:02:41,030 --> 01:02:43,250
opposite sides of the Atlantic are very
1224
01:02:43,250 --> 01:02:44,660
different when it comes to the required
1225
01:02:44,660 --> 01:02:47,420
reporting and recording of this type of
1226
01:02:47,420 --> 01:02:49,940
event I would have been shocked if I was
1227
01:02:49,940 --> 01:02:52,460
told the CIA in UK would obstruct an
1228
01:02:52,460 --> 01:02:55,220
investigation or if the CIA told me that
1229
01:02:55,220 --> 01:02:56,660
what I had seen was something entirely
1230
01:02:56,660 --> 01:02:58,940
different but it seems that pilots in
1231
01:02:58,940 --> 01:03:00,530
America I used to this sort of thing
1232
01:03:00,530 --> 01:03:07,130
here I returned home from Guernsey to
1233
01:03:07,130 --> 01:03:09,140
find a DVD sent to me from Salida
1234
01:03:09,140 --> 01:03:12,230
Colorado listen carefully to the six
1235
01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:14,630
year old girl who points out a UFO to
1236
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:25,430
her dad I'm not sure what the sounds are
1237
01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:27,770
but the object reminds me of what rain
1238
01:03:27,770 --> 01:03:30,950
is past news described seen it move
1239
01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:32,630
though that part of sky there probably
1240
01:03:32,630 --> 01:03:35,359
moved five hundred it probably moved a
1241
01:03:35,359 --> 01:03:38,570
hundred miles in a matter of a second or
1242
01:03:38,570 --> 01:03:40,630
two
1243
01:03:45,500 --> 01:03:48,820
you see that now
1244
01:03:48,970 --> 01:03:55,300
see going they seem like they can't see
1245
01:04:17,130 --> 01:04:19,720
my name is Joshua Andrew Berg
1246
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:24,040
I am a retired Air France captain during
1247
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,430
Air France flight 35 what we do from
1248
01:04:27,430 --> 01:04:32,620
these to London on 28 January 1994 I
1249
01:04:32,620 --> 01:04:36,610
observed with my crew a UFO in broad
1250
01:04:36,610 --> 01:04:39,790
daylight near Paris and it looks like
1251
01:04:39,790 --> 01:04:45,430
this with a bank angle of 45 degrees it
1252
01:04:45,430 --> 01:04:50,470
seemed to be a huge flying disc it
1253
01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:54,070
stabilized and stopped moving it was
1254
01:04:54,070 --> 01:04:59,650
about 1,000 feet wide the most
1255
01:04:59,650 --> 01:05:02,830
incredible expected is that it became
1256
01:05:02,830 --> 01:05:05,920
transparent and disappeared in about 10
1257
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:11,520
to 20 seconds my co-pilot chef Jordan I
1258
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,470
quickly realized that what we were
1259
01:05:14,470 --> 01:05:17,470
seeing did not resemble anything known
1260
01:05:17,470 --> 01:05:21,220
to us and we reported our sighting to
1261
01:05:21,220 --> 01:05:28,450
Russ traffic control there is a crew of
1262
01:05:28,450 --> 01:05:30,180
three percent placed by their
1263
01:05:30,180 --> 01:05:32,620
correlation at the same time not the
1264
01:05:32,620 --> 01:05:34,660
same place at the same time and that
1265
01:05:34,660 --> 01:05:36,610
means that we have had something real
1266
01:05:36,610 --> 01:05:40,830
overprice one day a huge thing
1267
01:05:42,099 --> 01:05:44,619
good evening last week several people in
1268
01:05:44,619 --> 01:05:47,109
Stephenville Texas a small rural town of
1269
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:50,019
about 15,000 70 miles southwest of Fort
1270
01:05:50,019 --> 01:05:52,239
Worth witnessed what many are calling a
1271
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:55,180
UFO James Fox I know you've been probing
1272
01:05:55,180 --> 01:05:56,589
this for a long time we've never got an
1273
01:05:56,589 --> 01:05:58,150
answer to this why do you think the Air
1274
01:05:58,150 --> 01:06:00,789
Force doesn't want this out well I mean
1275
01:06:00,789 --> 01:06:02,380
what are they gonna say we don't know
1276
01:06:02,380 --> 01:06:04,269
what's flying around in our airspace
1277
01:06:04,269 --> 01:06:06,279
with it why can't why can't they say
1278
01:06:06,279 --> 01:06:08,709
that I think that possibly could I wish
1279
01:06:08,709 --> 01:06:10,690
they would if the Air Force is listening
1280
01:06:10,690 --> 01:06:13,829
tonight why don't you tell us the truth
1281
01:06:19,859 --> 01:06:24,279
well I came in on Tuesday night a week
1282
01:06:24,279 --> 01:06:26,999
and a half ago started down the driveway
1283
01:06:26,999 --> 01:06:30,099
and I looked back here to the southwest
1284
01:06:30,099 --> 01:06:32,469
just past the windmill
1285
01:06:32,469 --> 01:06:34,779
so I'd say maybe five miles away there
1286
01:06:34,779 --> 01:06:37,180
was a real bright light came on it is
1287
01:06:37,180 --> 01:06:39,779
almost as bright as like a welding arc
1288
01:06:39,779 --> 01:06:41,979
one of the guys that was at my house
1289
01:06:41,979 --> 01:06:44,469
that night called up and said he wasn't
1290
01:06:44,469 --> 01:06:46,059
coming back to my house until we got
1291
01:06:46,059 --> 01:06:48,160
armed guards and I said why is that and
1292
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,779
he said well there was a UFO flew over
1293
01:06:49,779 --> 01:06:52,420
your house Tuesday night I said I saw it
1294
01:06:52,420 --> 01:06:58,509
I was so distracted by what I saw that
1295
01:06:58,509 --> 01:07:01,479
you could have had you could have had a
1296
01:07:01,479 --> 01:07:03,430
train coat in front of me and I would
1297
01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:04,930
probably hurt it because I was so
1298
01:07:04,930 --> 01:07:06,880
focused on these lights but I do not
1299
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,410
remember hearing any noise at all
1300
01:07:08,410 --> 01:07:10,420
whatsoever how would you describe the
1301
01:07:10,420 --> 01:07:15,400
acceleration probably the the speed of
1302
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,150
light and I tried keeping that with my
1303
01:07:19,150 --> 01:07:22,049
binoculars I couldn't this case so far
1304
01:07:22,049 --> 01:07:27,039
qualifies for that 5% like a sound the
1305
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:29,410
speed of the object and apparently the
1306
01:07:29,410 --> 01:07:31,630
military's interest it's coming from
1307
01:07:31,630 --> 01:07:34,119
that direction this way and I did hear
1308
01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:36,039
the Jets you know we're used to seeing
1309
01:07:36,039 --> 01:07:39,039
military aircraft in our skies here in
1310
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:41,289
this area we're used to seeing you know
1311
01:07:41,289 --> 01:07:42,940
the helicopters and the fighter jets and
1312
01:07:42,940 --> 01:07:44,680
the c-130s and I mean we know what those
1313
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,630
look like by the way so when it comes to
1314
01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:48,309
military aircraft I am a trained
1315
01:07:48,309 --> 01:07:54,400
observer so whatever that base
1316
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,319
why don't we take another break here
1317
01:07:56,319 --> 01:07:58,660
we're visiting with James Fox filmmaker
1318
01:07:58,660 --> 01:08:01,900
in town doing research on the the UFOs
1319
01:08:01,900 --> 01:08:03,670
and interviews we'll take a break we're
1320
01:08:03,670 --> 01:08:04,720
back right after this
1321
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,119
good evening everyone welcome to Dublin
1322
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:09,910
in Dublin the whole town showed up to
1323
01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:12,700
discuss this sighting my name is Steve
1324
01:08:12,700 --> 01:08:14,319
Huggins I'm senior field investigator
1325
01:08:14,319 --> 01:08:15,940
for a MUFON we're down here to
1326
01:08:15,940 --> 01:08:18,039
investigate this extraordinary event it
1327
01:08:18,039 --> 01:08:19,779
was going so fast and didn't make any
1328
01:08:19,779 --> 01:08:22,089
noise that light seemed to be streaming
1329
01:08:22,089 --> 01:08:24,039
and breaking around it then ten minutes
1330
01:08:24,039 --> 01:08:26,049
later it came back by and that's when it
1331
01:08:26,049 --> 01:08:27,819
had the two military jets chasing it
1332
01:08:27,819 --> 01:08:30,549
I've been a witness to this and give you
1333
01:08:30,549 --> 01:08:32,980
all the information I can you don't want
1334
01:08:32,980 --> 01:08:34,839
to come forward and say anything because
1335
01:08:34,839 --> 01:08:36,789
they'll say oh they're an idiot because
1336
01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:39,009
I've thought that before until I saw
1337
01:08:39,009 --> 01:08:41,559
this I guarantee the jet whoever was
1338
01:08:41,559 --> 01:08:43,210
flying the jets they had a visual on it
1339
01:08:43,210 --> 01:08:45,819
it was incredible and listened to many
1340
01:08:45,819 --> 01:08:48,190
witnesses and then went to the editors
1341
01:08:48,190 --> 01:08:50,289
of the local paper for this story first
1342
01:08:50,289 --> 01:08:54,549
broke Angela Joyner saw me on CNN the
1343
01:08:54,549 --> 01:08:57,490
night before and assumed I had all the
1344
01:08:57,490 --> 01:08:58,089
answers
1345
01:08:58,089 --> 01:09:01,390
major Carl Lewis at cars well I've
1346
01:09:01,390 --> 01:09:04,450
talked to him a lot and he said
1347
01:09:04,450 --> 01:09:07,450
something of this size would leave a
1348
01:09:07,450 --> 01:09:10,180
sonic footprint much like what we know
1349
01:09:10,180 --> 01:09:14,710
as a tornado path it would just demolish
1350
01:09:14,710 --> 01:09:17,980
things on the ground why why don't we
1351
01:09:17,980 --> 01:09:26,980
see that I have no idea Angela and local
1352
01:09:26,980 --> 01:09:30,130
radio station mandatory FM introduced me
1353
01:09:30,130 --> 01:09:33,160
to Ricky Sorrels we had a drink at the
1354
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,170
local bar where he agreed to meet with
1355
01:09:35,170 --> 01:09:37,420
me the following days aircraft in the
1356
01:09:37,420 --> 01:09:39,488
area they wouldn't normally be flying
1357
01:09:39,488 --> 01:09:41,859
they told me that Ricky had seen a lot
1358
01:09:41,859 --> 01:09:45,170
more than lights in the sky
1359
01:09:45,170 --> 01:09:49,310
you know I used to thank the people that
1360
01:09:49,310 --> 01:09:51,200
saw this and came on camera and said
1361
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,870
this kind of stuff I thought man these
1362
01:09:53,870 --> 01:09:56,630
guys need some help you know but it
1363
01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:59,779
happened to me and I can't change that I
1364
01:09:59,779 --> 01:10:03,020
had a hard time dealing with it she
1365
01:10:03,020 --> 01:10:03,950
looked at all the way in that direction
1366
01:10:03,950 --> 01:10:06,290
you didn't see me looking up Ricky said
1367
01:10:06,290 --> 01:10:08,000
he could not see the edge of the craft
1368
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,580
in any direction you couldn't see the
1369
01:10:10,580 --> 01:10:12,740
edge of it considered but I do know this
1370
01:10:12,740 --> 01:10:14,029
it's bigger
1371
01:10:14,029 --> 01:10:16,340
you can landing an airplane oh man I
1372
01:10:16,340 --> 01:10:20,180
boys guys can grab this story nothing no
1373
01:10:20,180 --> 01:10:23,600
sound was hovering nothing when it moved
1374
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,000
from left to right and nothing when it
1375
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,880
took off and holding his rifle and
1376
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,130
sometimes actually looking through his
1377
01:10:31,130 --> 01:10:31,880
scope
1378
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,609
Ricky stood under the craft for about
1379
01:10:34,609 --> 01:10:35,720
three minutes
1380
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,430
alifair have been in that situation but
1381
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,590
very few times my life but I had to slow
1382
01:10:42,590 --> 01:10:45,319
my mind down to to actually think about
1383
01:10:45,319 --> 01:10:47,569
what to do with it the information that
1384
01:10:47,569 --> 01:10:50,410
I was receiving for the first time and
1385
01:10:50,410 --> 01:10:53,779
that's what I did I studied it you know
1386
01:10:53,779 --> 01:10:57,920
I seen no nuts bolts rivets seams no
1387
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,430
welds none of this it looked like a
1388
01:11:01,430 --> 01:11:05,510
piece of sheet metal you know it it
1389
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:09,770
wasn't shiny it was a dull I don't know
1390
01:11:09,770 --> 01:11:13,819
what she thought Matt finished me this
1391
01:11:13,819 --> 01:11:16,880
is what I had a hard time with was if
1392
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,640
something wants to leave in my mind it
1393
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,220
should give it up and go like an
1394
01:11:22,220 --> 01:11:25,610
airplane would this did not do that this
1395
01:11:25,610 --> 01:11:29,120
stayed completely flat and it went at a
1396
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,300
45 degree angle away and it took off
1397
01:11:32,300 --> 01:11:33,910
it's such a high rate of speed that
1398
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:36,110
nobody scribed is if I would have
1399
01:11:36,110 --> 01:11:38,180
blinked I would have thought it just
1400
01:11:38,180 --> 01:11:39,800
disappear
1401
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:44,210
On January 21st 2008 Robert Powell and
1402
01:11:44,210 --> 01:11:46,610
Glen Schultz received radar data from
1403
01:11:46,610 --> 01:11:49,969
the FAA this image was created directly
1404
01:11:49,969 --> 01:11:54,710
from that data each black dot and there
1405
01:11:54,710 --> 01:11:56,750
were over a hundred and forty represent
1406
01:11:56,750 --> 01:11:58,849
radar confirmation of an unknown object
1407
01:11:58,849 --> 01:12:01,400
whose flight path is seen heading
1408
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:07,520
towards Crawford ranch I just want to
1409
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,940
know what it is you know why was it here
1410
01:12:10,940 --> 01:12:15,199
what was it is it ours you know I kind
1411
01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:17,809
of think although the military initially
1412
01:12:17,809 --> 01:12:20,210
denied being in the area the official
1413
01:12:20,210 --> 01:12:22,940
explanation from the Air Force is now a
1414
01:12:22,940 --> 01:12:27,020
flight of f-16s after each witness I
1415
01:12:27,020 --> 01:12:29,900
meet I find it increasingly difficult to
1416
01:12:29,900 --> 01:12:32,300
accept the military's response I've
1417
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:34,790
actually stepped back and tried to be
1418
01:12:34,790 --> 01:12:37,969
the big picture I would like to find out
1419
01:12:37,969 --> 01:12:40,909
what it is then if people believe me
1420
01:12:40,909 --> 01:12:44,469
okay if they don't that's okay too
1421
01:12:47,530 --> 01:12:50,719
mercury astronaut Gordon Cooper was the
1422
01:12:50,719 --> 01:12:52,880
last American astronaut to go up in
1423
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:56,659
space alone he orbited the planet 22
1424
01:12:56,659 --> 01:13:02,030
times while stationed at Edwards Air
1425
01:13:02,030 --> 01:13:05,179
Force Base in the early 1950s Cooper was
1426
01:13:05,179 --> 01:13:07,520
part of an event that has never been
1427
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,369
explained I was having some the
1428
01:13:10,369 --> 01:13:12,739
cameraman film the installation of a
1429
01:13:12,739 --> 01:13:15,349
precision landing facility they were
1430
01:13:15,349 --> 01:13:16,709
putting in my own
1431
01:13:16,709 --> 01:13:19,979
the dry lane and then saw her flee right
1432
01:13:19,979 --> 01:13:22,110
over him putting down three little gear
1433
01:13:22,110 --> 01:13:26,630
and landing out on the dry lake bed and
1434
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,209
they went out picked up their cameras
1435
01:13:30,209 --> 01:13:34,019
and moved on out toward him filming and
1436
01:13:34,019 --> 01:13:35,999
he left it off put the gear back in the
1437
01:13:35,999 --> 01:13:38,880
well climbed out a very high rate of
1438
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,329
speed and disappear and the time they
1439
01:13:42,329 --> 01:13:44,070
got back with the developed film I was
1440
01:13:44,070 --> 01:13:45,599
on the higher and higher and higher
1441
01:13:45,599 --> 01:13:48,380
level laughs they're talking to me
1442
01:13:48,380 --> 01:13:52,650
anyway the colonel telling me do you
1443
01:13:52,650 --> 01:13:54,179
know when the film arrived at my desk
1444
01:13:54,179 --> 01:13:56,340
they put it in the carrier pouch there
1445
01:13:56,340 --> 01:13:58,289
would be occurred there at my office by
1446
01:13:58,289 --> 01:14:01,199
that time already and they'd arranged
1447
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:03,630
for him to fly in our base airplane back
1448
01:14:03,630 --> 01:14:07,829
to Washington with these films and do
1449
01:14:07,829 --> 01:14:11,219
not run prints etc etcetera etcetera did
1450
01:14:11,219 --> 01:14:13,679
you watch the film we didn't have a
1451
01:14:13,679 --> 01:14:15,840
chance to run it I had a chance to hold
1452
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,729
it up to the window and look at it it
1453
01:14:17,729 --> 01:14:20,820
was certainly good found did you ever
1454
01:14:20,820 --> 01:14:22,110
keep in touch with anybody about it or
1455
01:14:22,110 --> 01:14:23,729
discuss how would I keep in touch with
1456
01:14:23,729 --> 01:14:24,949
anybody about it
1457
01:14:24,949 --> 01:14:27,570
there's no way within the military or
1458
01:14:27,570 --> 01:14:29,159
within the government of keeping track
1459
01:14:29,159 --> 01:14:31,739
or something that is classified unless
1460
01:14:31,739 --> 01:14:33,360
you were directly involved in it and I
1461
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,119
was not this meeting was a turning point
1462
01:14:36,119 --> 01:14:38,760
for my father Gordon Cooper was an icon
1463
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,010
of his generation and my father was
1464
01:14:41,010 --> 01:14:43,800
amazed by his story at that point in
1465
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:45,329
time there's no doubt in my mind that
1466
01:14:45,329 --> 01:14:48,329
this vehicle was made at some other
1467
01:14:48,329 --> 01:14:58,499
place than here on earth yeah well Buck
1468
01:14:58,499 --> 01:15:00,949
Rogers and Flash Gordon coming through
1469
01:15:00,949 --> 01:15:03,479
after the film was sent to Washington
1470
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,789
that was never seen or heard of again
1471
01:15:10,969 --> 01:15:14,070
Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell was
1472
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:16,240
the sixth man to walk on the moon
1473
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,640
he has met with people in military and
1474
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,440
government positions from several
1475
01:15:20,440 --> 01:15:22,480
countries who have privately shared with
1476
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:25,590
him information about UFOs seem to be
1477
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:29,890
well documented events that represent
1478
01:15:29,890 --> 01:15:33,340
flying craft that do not match anything
1479
01:15:33,340 --> 01:15:35,650
we have in an Earthbound arsenal
1480
01:15:35,650 --> 01:15:39,580
I felt that dr. Mitchell would know the
1481
01:15:39,580 --> 01:15:40,980
reasons for secrecy
1482
01:15:40,980 --> 01:15:44,260
why was the wall I can't answer that
1483
01:15:44,260 --> 01:15:46,390
question that I think it's a long past
1484
01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:51,070
time to open this up for the public but
1485
01:15:51,070 --> 01:15:55,240
the best answer is probably because they
1486
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,530
don't know what to do about it in here
1487
01:15:59,910 --> 01:16:02,770
my father and I caught up with President
1488
01:16:02,770 --> 01:16:04,510
Carter at a book signing in San
1489
01:16:04,510 --> 01:16:12,700
Francisco I don't know what happened to
1490
01:16:12,700 --> 01:16:14,260
it I saw one but I don't know what just
1491
01:16:14,260 --> 01:16:15,010
disappeared
1492
01:16:15,010 --> 01:16:17,410
did you all spin you a president yeah
1493
01:16:17,410 --> 01:16:19,390
but there's a lot of different answers
1494
01:16:19,390 --> 01:16:23,040
and nobody knows has proof or anything
1495
01:16:25,870 --> 01:16:29,060
the question of secrecy has puzzled me
1496
01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:33,110
for years I asked the panelists in DC to
1497
01:16:33,110 --> 01:16:35,840
offer possible explanations some of the
1498
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,490
questions that man on the street have
1499
01:16:37,490 --> 01:16:40,960
and whoever wants to address this can is
1500
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:45,200
why in your opinion would any government
1501
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,870
hide this from the people are not
1502
01:16:47,870 --> 01:16:50,030
disclosed this type of information of
1503
01:16:50,030 --> 01:16:53,180
what's going on when there are witnesses
1504
01:16:53,180 --> 01:16:56,570
of sightings coming in they are very
1505
01:16:56,570 --> 01:16:59,900
directed to do to pick up the issue to
1506
01:16:59,900 --> 01:17:01,280
investigate because they have no
1507
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,680
structure and they don't know how 200cc
1508
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,920
Toonami NASA the agendas conocido do not
1509
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,830
NFP LoCascio is a podría - I mean atha
1510
01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:14,590
atha sistema the conservación de poder I
1511
01:17:14,590 --> 01:17:17,150
suspect for at least five agencies in
1512
01:17:17,150 --> 01:17:18,320
the US government that have
1513
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,720
investigative capability and do maintain
1514
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,590
files on UFOs public opinion I think is
1515
01:17:24,590 --> 01:17:27,560
asking for information it is ready to
1516
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,150
believe that there is something serious
1517
01:17:29,150 --> 01:17:32,450
if we can convince the government it
1518
01:17:32,450 --> 01:17:38,030
could change good morning ladies and
1519
01:17:38,030 --> 01:17:41,480
gentlemen my name is jean claude rim and
1520
01:17:41,480 --> 01:17:44,180
i am an astronomer working for the
1521
01:17:44,180 --> 01:17:45,020
French
1522
01:17:45,020 --> 01:17:47,900
santé national de la certificate from
1523
01:17:47,900 --> 01:17:52,910
1963 to 1998 I contributed to the French
1524
01:17:52,910 --> 01:17:56,630
cometa report sphere a military study on
1525
01:17:56,630 --> 01:17:59,720
UFOs and national security released in
1526
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:03,440
1999 chimera translates as committee for
1527
01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:06,350
in-depth studies it was in essence a
1528
01:18:06,350 --> 01:18:07,900
high-level think-tank
1529
01:18:07,900 --> 01:18:10,550
committee included such members as
1530
01:18:10,550 --> 01:18:12,980
four-star general bernard lala who was
1531
01:18:12,980 --> 01:18:14,120
the former commander of the french
1532
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,370
tactical air force and military
1533
01:18:16,370 --> 01:18:19,760
counselor to the prime minister as well
1534
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,980
as andre LeBeau former president of the
1535
01:18:21,980 --> 01:18:24,430
National Center for Space Studies and
1536
01:18:24,430 --> 01:18:25,700
attorney-at-law
1537
01:18:25,700 --> 01:18:28,430
Michele Algar director of the kinetic
1538
01:18:28,430 --> 01:18:29,620
group
1539
01:18:29,620 --> 01:18:31,720
the Kemetic group published its findings
1540
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,380
in an historical 90 page report titled
1541
01:18:35,380 --> 01:18:37,090
UFOs and defense
1542
01:18:37,090 --> 01:18:41,080
what should we prepare for the formation
1543
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,270
of the Kemetic group was initiated by
1544
01:18:43,270 --> 01:18:46,080
French Air Force general Dennis Letty
1545
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,030
Kemetic concluded that about 5 percent
1546
01:18:49,030 --> 01:18:51,190
of the cases studied were inexplicable
1547
01:18:51,190 --> 01:18:53,950
and that the best explanation was what
1548
01:18:53,950 --> 01:18:54,940
the authors called
1549
01:18:54,940 --> 01:18:59,410
the extra-terrestrial hypothesis with
1550
01:18:59,410 --> 01:19:01,600
investigative journalists Leslie Kane I
1551
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:05,770
flew to France to meet general Leni we
1552
01:19:05,770 --> 01:19:07,360
met the general at his home on the
1553
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,660
outskirts of Paris we went over some of
1554
01:19:10,660 --> 01:19:12,730
the more puzzling encounters that led
1555
01:19:12,730 --> 01:19:14,560
the group to their conclusions and he
1556
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,820
saw the disc every pilot sightings
1557
01:19:18,820 --> 01:19:22,810
confirmed by radar very quickly I would
1558
01:19:22,810 --> 01:19:25,090
have assigned in cases involving soil
1559
01:19:25,090 --> 01:19:27,750
and plant analysis from landing sites I
1560
01:19:27,750 --> 01:19:30,010
had looked into one of these cases
1561
01:19:30,010 --> 01:19:33,550
myself farmer Renato Nicolai from
1562
01:19:33,550 --> 01:19:36,130
TransAm Provence reported that a
1563
01:19:36,130 --> 01:19:38,500
disc-shaped object landed in his garden
1564
01:19:38,500 --> 01:19:41,140
in the late afternoon the farmer said
1565
01:19:41,140 --> 01:19:44,800
day goes on budget to us yet Luna wrote
1566
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,350
when he told his wife she assumed he had
1567
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:51,220
heat stroke and had hallucinate however
1568
01:19:51,220 --> 01:19:53,560
scientific analysis of the landing site
1569
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,260
showed high levels of radiation and when
1570
01:19:56,260 --> 01:19:59,080
I visited the site back in 1999 almost
1571
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,390
20 years later nothing had grown in that
1572
01:20:01,390 --> 01:20:06,720
spot kupah beaucoup beaucoup de fois AC
1573
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,400
the town of Charles on / vaults
1574
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,830
labeled a farmer a flying saucer fanatic
1575
01:20:12,830 --> 01:20:15,410
Papa D Rikishi to NASA Cooper Bowlin
1576
01:20:15,410 --> 01:20:19,610
Turkish city you gotta show sir wait you
1577
01:20:19,610 --> 01:20:23,000
said daddy but what is his
1578
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,760
photograph general Letty also shared
1579
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,980
with us some impressive photographic
1580
01:20:27,980 --> 01:20:30,950
cases one of these was featured on the
1581
01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:33,470
cover of the committee report Matt beam
1582
01:20:33,470 --> 01:20:35,120
is it not happening the ground on the
1583
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,180
ground developing a mapping plane from
1584
01:20:38,180 --> 01:20:40,520
the government of Costa Rica was flying
1585
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,580
at 10,000 feet and had a high-resolution
1586
01:20:43,580 --> 01:20:46,100
camera running automatically under the
1587
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:48,530
fuselage taking a picture every 17
1588
01:20:48,530 --> 01:20:53,000
seconds on one of the frames this object
1589
01:20:53,000 --> 01:21:02,630
was captured after careful analysis by
1590
01:21:02,630 --> 01:21:04,820
several scientists including Richard
1591
01:21:04,820 --> 01:21:07,160
Haines and Jacques Vallee it was
1592
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,050
determined that the object captured on
1593
01:21:09,050 --> 01:21:11,440
film was a real three-dimensional
1594
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:16,250
airborne object was announced that
1595
01:21:16,250 --> 01:21:18,410
people would panic if the government's
1596
01:21:18,410 --> 01:21:19,820
announced well there are the
1597
01:21:19,820 --> 01:21:27,800
unidentified objects are real I cannot
1598
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:32,360
say yes but I cannot say no I asked the
1599
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,330
general to explain the committee reports
1600
01:21:34,330 --> 01:21:37,670
extra-terrestrial hypothesis for us we
1601
01:21:37,670 --> 01:21:40,420
think that the best explanation is that
1602
01:21:40,420 --> 01:21:44,770
object came from outside
1603
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:49,400
we don't say they come from outside but
1604
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:57,250
the best explanation is this that pitous
1605
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:03,600
in 2007 an investigative branch of CNES
1606
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,420
the French equivalent of NASA made
1607
01:22:06,420 --> 01:22:08,340
sixteen hundred sightings spanning five
1608
01:22:08,340 --> 01:22:12,110
decades available to the public
1609
01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:20,970
I asked CNES for an interview I want to
1610
01:22:20,970 --> 01:22:22,740
know who allowed the release of these
1611
01:22:22,740 --> 01:22:26,430
files and why silly president is
1612
01:22:26,430 --> 01:22:29,730
intentionally to special canto continue
1613
01:22:29,730 --> 01:22:32,940
decided home at home would lock defeated
1614
01:22:32,940 --> 01:22:37,920
Japan the organ is a donee missione
1615
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,460
the Hawaii the Vasant transparent is a
1616
01:22:41,460 --> 01:22:45,600
video public in the media we reviewed
1617
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,960
several extraordinary cases some even
1618
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,900
involve landings I asked him what his
1619
01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:55,530
personal beliefs were to problem on
1620
01:22:55,530 --> 01:22:57,330
to the equivalent of future potential
1621
01:22:57,330 --> 01:23:00,810
due to a stock tank as computed a DBZ
1622
01:23:00,810 --> 01:23:03,240
the exact arrest madoka from probably
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01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,520
more the is observers your natural
1624
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,390
economic forum quite speak your own
1625
01:23:08,390 --> 01:23:10,980
assassin growled can you swap taken is
1626
01:23:10,980 --> 01:23:15,080
talk it's like home for it
1627
01:23:27,550 --> 01:23:30,010
I wanted to know how releasing this
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01:23:30,010 --> 01:23:31,930
information might have affected the
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01:23:31,930 --> 01:23:34,560
people of France
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01:23:37,290 --> 01:23:40,710
we took to the streets would you bother
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01:23:40,710 --> 01:23:44,610
of me required tips weekly le fou no sir
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01:23:44,610 --> 01:23:47,160
no suppose Q through posted when I've
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01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:51,270
loved it whether you see a CEO who set
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01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:53,160
them to be pyramid the paul ii have you
1635
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:57,140
had of me a knock in unary park
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01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:11,070
does it make you scared yeah I'm scared
1637
01:24:11,070 --> 01:24:12,420
too that they're gonna come and they're
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01:24:12,420 --> 01:24:14,670
gonna be hostile and they're gonna try
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01:24:14,670 --> 01:24:17,310
and I think I'm making a hurtles or do
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01:24:17,310 --> 01:24:18,990
something to the world do you think
1641
01:24:18,990 --> 01:24:20,460
governments know more than what they're
1642
01:24:20,460 --> 01:24:22,200
telling us apart from American
1643
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:27,210
governments yeah sqd Percy because uh
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01:24:27,210 --> 01:24:30,020
proven you see
1645
01:24:48,170 --> 01:24:50,390
so what do you do do you think that the
1646
01:24:50,390 --> 01:24:53,150
British government the mo D is preparing
1647
01:24:53,150 --> 01:24:55,430
for any type of disclosure do you think
1648
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:55,940
it's just routine
1649
01:24:55,940 --> 01:24:58,970
how's it going to happen it's not gonna
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01:24:58,970 --> 01:25:01,310
be as I say disclosure with a big D
1651
01:25:01,310 --> 01:25:03,440
they're gonna be disclosure with a small
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01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:05,180
T in other words we will be releasing
1653
01:25:05,180 --> 01:25:09,020
the files but in May 2008 the British
1654
01:25:09,020 --> 01:25:11,420
government began the process of
1655
01:25:11,420 --> 01:25:13,880
releasing its entire archive of UFO
1656
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:14,780
FILES
1657
01:25:14,780 --> 01:25:18,890
from 1991 through to 1994 I was desk
1658
01:25:18,890 --> 01:25:20,390
officer responsible for these
1659
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:23,120
investigations and these cases included
1660
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,790
incidents where reliable witnesses such
1661
01:25:25,790 --> 01:25:28,400
as police officers and pilots reported
1662
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,190
structured craft performing speeds and
1663
01:25:31,190 --> 01:25:33,680
maneuvers significantly in excess of
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01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,540
anything that they'd seen military jet
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01:25:35,540 --> 01:25:39,950
aircraft perform in July of 2009 the
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01:25:39,950 --> 01:25:41,870
Ministry of Defence released this
1667
01:25:41,870 --> 01:25:44,420
document it's a briefing regarding the
1668
01:25:44,420 --> 01:25:51,200
mass sighting over England in 1993 in
1669
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:54,620
summary it states there would seem to be
1670
01:25:54,620 --> 01:25:56,900
some evidence on this occasion that an
1671
01:25:56,900 --> 01:25:59,150
unidentified object or objects of
1672
01:25:59,150 --> 01:26:04,090
unknown origin was operating over the UK
1673
01:26:06,469 --> 01:26:08,269
to the skeptics who say there's no
1674
01:26:08,269 --> 01:26:10,820
evidence I would say this the Ministry
1675
01:26:10,820 --> 01:26:12,320
of Defense in the United Kingdom has
1676
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,769
received 10,000 UFO reports since 1950
1677
01:26:15,769 --> 01:26:17,749
not just lights in the sky but
1678
01:26:17,749 --> 01:26:19,789
structured craft sometimes tracked on
1679
01:26:19,789 --> 01:26:22,039
radar but don't take my word for it all
1680
01:26:22,039 --> 01:26:24,889
this can be viewed at the National
1681
01:26:24,889 --> 01:26:26,749
Archives on the Ministry of Defence
1682
01:26:26,749 --> 01:26:29,840
website so the evidence is right out
1683
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:30,880
there
1684
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,860
the phenomenon has not changed a great
1685
01:26:33,860 --> 01:26:35,539
deal has not changed materially since
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01:26:35,539 --> 01:26:38,570
1947 and I am quite sure that neither we
1687
01:26:38,570 --> 01:26:40,130
nor the Russians had anything like the
1688
01:26:40,130 --> 01:26:42,320
capabilities demonstrated by the UFOs in
1689
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:46,729
47 I don't think we have now thousands
1690
01:26:46,729 --> 01:26:50,150
of witnesses no credible witnesses which
1691
01:26:50,150 --> 01:26:53,199
can confirm that indeed this so
1692
01:26:53,199 --> 01:26:56,710
activities which cannot be related to
1693
01:26:56,710 --> 01:27:00,519
terrestrial activities
1694
01:27:02,639 --> 01:27:04,739
they're not aerodynamic there's
1695
01:27:04,739 --> 01:27:06,900
something else and the suspicion is that
1696
01:27:06,900 --> 01:27:09,810
their antigravity or some kind of
1697
01:27:09,810 --> 01:27:13,230
electromagnetic growth a tech drive to
1698
01:27:13,230 --> 01:27:14,969
them which would explain a lot of things
1699
01:27:14,969 --> 01:27:16,020
that goes on including the
1700
01:27:16,020 --> 01:27:18,270
electromagnetic effects on vehicles and
1701
01:27:18,270 --> 01:27:25,139
so forth furthermore it is not customary
1702
01:27:25,139 --> 01:27:27,659
for countries to test their secret
1703
01:27:27,659 --> 01:27:30,210
weapons or secret devices in 133
1704
01:27:30,210 --> 01:27:32,010
different countries all over the place
1705
01:27:32,010 --> 01:27:35,369
and also from a moral standpoint I doubt
1706
01:27:35,369 --> 01:27:36,659
very much that we would have sent
1707
01:27:36,659 --> 01:27:38,550
astronauts to the moon using antiquated
1708
01:27:38,550 --> 01:27:41,130
chemical fuels if we had a way of doing
1709
01:27:41,130 --> 01:27:46,440
it much more efficiently if we have then
1710
01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:48,330
it's criminal that's being kept strictly
1711
01:27:48,330 --> 01:27:49,860
in military hands because this would
1712
01:27:49,860 --> 01:27:51,840
solve all of our energy problems in the
1713
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,020
world
1714
01:28:00,099 --> 01:28:03,040
so I've given up the whole idea that it
1715
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,010
could possibly be from any place on
1716
01:28:06,010 --> 01:28:07,889
earth
1717
01:28:07,889 --> 01:28:12,340
why don't tell the public what's going
1718
01:28:12,340 --> 01:28:16,389
on to accept that some object over fly
1719
01:28:16,389 --> 01:28:19,300
and the country being unable to clear
1720
01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:25,480
the sky of the you cannot admit it do
1721
01:28:25,480 --> 01:28:26,739
you think it's possible that was from
1722
01:28:26,739 --> 01:28:31,420
another world I my Air Force training
1723
01:28:31,420 --> 01:28:34,780
says I can't think that way ok a story
1724
01:28:34,780 --> 01:28:36,579
this big there's no way it could be kept
1725
01:28:36,579 --> 01:28:37,929
secret from the public what do you say
1726
01:28:37,929 --> 01:28:40,480
to someone like that that says that well
1727
01:28:40,480 --> 01:28:42,070
somebody's kept it pretty cigarette for
1728
01:28:42,070 --> 01:28:45,270
quite a while and thing
1729
01:28:47,499 --> 01:28:50,050
our country needs to reopen its official
1730
01:28:50,050 --> 01:28:53,429
investigation that it shut down in 1969
1731
01:28:53,429 --> 01:28:56,289
the United States government can no
1732
01:28:56,289 --> 01:28:58,780
longer shun an international dialogue
1733
01:28:58,780 --> 01:29:01,780
about this phenomenon and we invite the
1734
01:29:01,780 --> 01:29:03,699
government to work in cooperation with
1735
01:29:03,699 --> 01:29:06,249
countries as represented on both sides
1736
01:29:06,249 --> 01:29:10,360
of me here today this position is
1737
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,369
supported by President Clinton's former
1738
01:29:12,369 --> 01:29:17,409
chief of staff John Podesta Podesta also
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01:29:17,409 --> 01:29:20,079
an adviser to President Obama spoke at a
1740
01:29:20,079 --> 01:29:22,780
2002 press conference organized by the
1741
01:29:22,780 --> 01:29:25,269
Coalition for freedom of information I
1742
01:29:25,269 --> 01:29:28,170
think it's time to open the books on
1743
01:29:28,170 --> 01:29:30,369
questions that have remained in the dark
1744
01:29:30,369 --> 01:29:32,949
under the question of government
1745
01:29:32,949 --> 01:29:37,479
investigations of UFOs it's time to find
1746
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,090
out what what the truth really is that's
1747
01:29:40,090 --> 01:29:42,550
out there we ought to do it really
1748
01:29:42,550 --> 01:29:44,800
because it's right we ought to do it
1749
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,809
because the American people quite
1750
01:29:46,809 --> 01:29:50,050
frankly can handle the truth and we do
1751
01:29:50,050 --> 01:29:53,280
it because it's the law
1752
01:30:15,070 --> 01:30:17,450
there was one last thing I asked Jack
1753
01:30:17,450 --> 01:30:18,230
Padme
1754
01:30:18,230 --> 01:30:20,540
the man who helped release Frances UFO
1755
01:30:20,540 --> 01:30:24,080
FILES what advice he would give to the
1756
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,180
American government warship at the
1757
01:30:26,180 --> 01:30:32,900
Pokemon conseil may bozo posture sample
1758
01:30:32,900 --> 01:30:33,260
more
1759
01:30:33,260 --> 01:30:37,310
DFK reports for our the read
1760
01:30:37,310 --> 01:30:39,200
Ephesians is a pharmacy wanna see too
1761
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,350
major but no permit the duty the concern
1762
01:30:42,350 --> 01:30:49,070
among a charioteer low in Osama Co
1763
01:30:49,070 --> 01:30:52,040
Alejandra knows eNOS infidelity I've met
1764
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:53,780
with your four witnesses from around the
1765
01:30:53,780 --> 01:30:57,290
world military officers politicians and
1766
01:30:57,290 --> 01:31:00,470
everyday people like you and me and he
1767
01:31:00,470 --> 01:31:03,440
says this target over here they come
1768
01:31:03,440 --> 01:31:05,330
forward with nothing to gain and
1769
01:31:05,330 --> 01:31:07,850
everything to lose because they want
1770
01:31:07,850 --> 01:31:11,540
answers not the same old explanations of
1771
01:31:11,540 --> 01:31:14,570
swamp gas military flares weather
1772
01:31:14,570 --> 01:31:17,450
balloons or misidentified aircraft but
1773
01:31:17,450 --> 01:31:20,740
the truth there's no reason for me not
1774
01:31:20,740 --> 01:31:23,600
to say what I saw I had nothing hired I
1775
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,730
have nothing to gain maybe somebody
1776
01:31:25,730 --> 01:31:27,620
involved with the US government knows
1777
01:31:27,620 --> 01:31:29,870
the origin of these crafts but I don't
1778
01:31:29,870 --> 01:31:32,510
all of a sudden ten degrees to my right
1779
01:31:32,510 --> 01:31:34,820
they're ours then somebody has been
1780
01:31:34,820 --> 01:31:35,470
hiding
1781
01:31:35,470 --> 01:31:38,390
revolutionary technology for over 50
1782
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:41,600
years I've never seen anything go so
1783
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:45,380
fast in my life as I think would ya if
1784
01:31:45,380 --> 01:31:49,520
any of them are not man-made then we're
1785
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,619
not alone
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01:31:51,619 --> 01:31:53,679
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