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hello again this is a special recording
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what we call an archives recording and
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the proceedings part of this film was
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showing some of downtown Denver and the
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deed of there was 18th of April today as
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a 20th of April year 2000 Denver is
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still there in the stool traffic and
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it's still smog but since it's an
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archives report with what we did put in
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a little piece about Denver and showing
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what Denver's like on construction of a
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new stadium etc in the archived report
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which this is I wish to add a few things
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which I would not put in the general
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history of myself and the Philadelphia
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Experiment this material will not be
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available to everyone in fact very few
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people and going back into the problems
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of the Philadelphia Experiment when
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Duncan and I jumped overboard off the
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ship the Eldridge in hyperspace we of
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course didn't know what was happening
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and where we were going or if we were
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going anywheres except of course into
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the water we expected to hit the water
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in the bay and swim ashore but no water
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we never hit it we kept falling and
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falling for quite a period of time then
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it seemed to level out boom excuse me
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seemed to level out and we were shall I
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say flying along that's not the right
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term but it seemed like we were through
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cloud banks another strange phenomena
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and this went on for a period of time
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and then we blanked out when we woke up
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as we found out in a hospital talking to
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one bad night and another in the same
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room I'm wondering what has happened
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where were we and what was going on well
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in a hospital lieutenant Norley came in
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and do the usual measurements of the
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usual vital signs and so forth I said
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would you like to watch TV said yes
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return on the TV at this point we didn't
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know that anything was wrong or in
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he was any different than the area era
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we had come from except of course in
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1943 we didn't have large screen color
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TV this happened to be a wall-mounted
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unit smaller size but color which was
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the first discrepancy we watched the TV
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we were actually in that hospital for
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four weeks recovering we finally asked
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what we were doing here they wouldn't
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tell us how we got there but they said
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you have suffered severe radiation burns
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it's a radiation from what and they sort
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of demurred on giving us a straight
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answer as they said no it's not nuclear
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radiation as it turns out I would learn
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much later of course there was radiation
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that you will possibly run into in deep
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space and a certain other conditions
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which his course is not nuclear but
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nevertheless it's an ionizing form of
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radiation that can be damaging to the
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body so we took about four weeks to
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recover and in that process on that time
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we watched a lot of television at that
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point I would say after a week of
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watching TV I started asking a lot of
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questions because it was quite obvious
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that things were not normal normal in
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the sense of how we knew them in 1943
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that the indications were there were
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very few cities around the country
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anymore
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there was a real travel there was some
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car travel but what was most important
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is that we no longer any national
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boundaries there were boundaries for
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reference like what states do we have in
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the u.s. well boundaries referenced
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we're in accordance with the American
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map as we saw it but we are told very
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bluntly that no longer is there a
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government whatever is left of it is
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under military control
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whoo there were a number of references
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on television to the changed coastlines
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it struck us that they were changed I
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didn't say that we started asking
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questions well can you give us some maps
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of the United States
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maybe United States and Canada oh sure
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no problem they got em for us we were
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rather dismayed to find that a good
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chunk of California was discipline had
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disappeared was no longer above water
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was obviously under water the Pacific
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Ocean was now encroaching on dry land
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largely paralleling the San Andreas
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Fault Line in San Francisco a lot of San
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Francisco was still there was not all
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intact the principal part that survived
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was on the rocky promontory which is in
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the downtown area south of that there
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was a lot of damage but apparently there
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damaged from the earthquakes and
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whatever else had hit started had a
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point someplace between San Francisco
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and San Jose as the CNN trees fall comes
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in at that point San Jose as I remember
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was missing and as you went further
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south there was sort of a ragged laws of
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land when it got down to Los Angeles the
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shall we say the cliff area of sano-sama
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not San Mateo the cliff area of the
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whole section on the beach from Malibu
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on south was missing no cliffs no
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apartment houses no houses the beaches
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were further inland at least from what
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we thought they were originally downtown
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Los Angeles was essentially intact it
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was built on a rocky area in these
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residential sections other than the high
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hills of Altadena
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and some of the higher sections of
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Beverly Hills were gone they were just
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totally destroyed and there was not that
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much left of Atlanta Angeles as a
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functioning City long beach I don't
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recall whether it was still there or not
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but I do recall
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San Diego was totally gone because the
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loss of land began just slightly south
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of Los Angeles and went on inland and a
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rather ragged line so that the I began
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approached the San Andreas Fault which
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of course runs through the Salton Sea in
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the southern part of California on down
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in New Mexico at that point roughly from
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Laguna Beach or someplace a little north
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of it on down to the Salton Sea was all
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gone it was under water the land has
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gone then there were severe changes and
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shall we say in that area nothing is
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severe as the Gordon Michael scallion
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map no his nearest severe because he
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showed most of California go on most of
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arizona-grown ports north greater parts
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of Nevada gone none of that but up north
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there was severe damages in the Bay Area
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of Seattle and Portland I don't recall
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specifically where that was still there
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or not
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Chicago was gone the Great Lakes were
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now one Lake speaking of course of the
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year which we finally found out what
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year we were in was 21 37 ad and the
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Mississippi had undergone drastic
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changes it had become a very wide
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waterway an inland estuary at the
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narrowest point about 30 miles wide and
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she went on South to New Orleans the
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whole sand strip and the whole sand spit
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we're in New Orleans once was was brown
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as was the city of New Orleans and then
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we found out that there was a swath of
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land about 50 miles wide across the
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entire Gulf area the entire Gulf Coast
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which was underwater
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well this meant all of the coastal
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cities were gone not included Houston
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and included El Paso Texas Corpus
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Christi Texas they were all underwater
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I'm gone most of the Texas north of that
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50 mile swath was still there Dallas as
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I recall was still intact but the
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Mississippi problem was enormous because
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when it got down to the Gulf
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thirty miles white anymore is over 100
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and there was an attempt made if I'm
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apparently successful to build a bridge
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across the Narrows point of the new
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Mississippi which was 30 miles wide and
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they did build what became the world's
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largest and longest suspension bridge
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across that point on the Mississippi
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that was still crossable I asked other
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questions like what about the East Coast
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well the East Coast had some very
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strange changes there was a large chunk
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of land missing from Georgia Georgia was
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particularly hit in that cities of
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Savannah were gone the coastal cities
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were gone Atlanta was still there but 3
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miles approximately from the oceanfront
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and the cut out of land was rather
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jagged pointing towards Atlanta but then
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went back towards the coast and as you
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go on up the coast towards New York the
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losses were very strange and there was
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sporadic and they were not on a
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continuous thing it was a jagged outline
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Baltimore and Washington were gone New
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York City was still there what was left
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of it which was mostly the section above
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the battery on Manhattan Island because
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it's solid rock it remained and the
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areas like Brooklyn Queens were
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essentially gone replaced by water most
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of Long Island was intact New England
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there's some missing inland areas and as
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I said Chicago was gone
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upstate New York had a very strange
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problem the st. Lawrence River became an
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inland sea wave and developed a lake
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which covered Albany New York
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a large saltwater lake so a lot of
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streets changes in the United States
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Canada I did not pay any particular
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attention to it didn't appear to have
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changed that much Europe had drastic
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changes in Europe England was gone most
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but not all of Ireland was gone the
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highlands of Scotland was still so alive
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and well apparently and in terms of the
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internal country
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and parts of Europe as we know it now
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quite a bit of it was underwater even
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parts of Switzerland were underwater the
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mountains had dropped that for what will
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have gone on in Europe we don't really
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know and the guys asked the questions of
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couldn't really answer them correctly
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anyway because they were not that
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familiar with it demand I principally
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talk with was the hospital technician
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quite intelligent and during us stay
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there
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he was the only black man we saw he was
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a black medical technician very
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competent and educated was the only
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black person we saw on our entire stage
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in year 21 37 there was still rail
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travel and travel I didn't ask about
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airlines travel not AB - what's the
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world population these days and they
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said Oh slightly over 300 million and I
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looked at mrs. world population he said
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yes world population so the u.s. is now
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now down around 50 million or less there
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is no government left acting in the face
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of the earth intact they had all
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crumbled sometime between the period of
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2000 and as he told me 2025 martial law
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was set in almost all these areas there
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was a combination of end historically
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speaking having a nuclear war World War
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3 those considered a rather brief World
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War 3 but a lot of destruction and then
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those natural earth changes which were
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more destructive than the war between
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all of those there was a great loss of
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life a loss of government a loss of
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transportation and of course without you
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have starvation and other problems and
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it went continually downhill from about
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2003 as my guess on he didn't specify a
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date who said the records were hazy but
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it looked like 2004 approximately when
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things came apart and at that point he
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said thing what was left to the
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government on the military control was
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attempting to rebuild the nation and
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this was in 21 37 he said it was well
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along to being rebuilt but it was far
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from being
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completely rebuilt and the destruction
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being replaced and over so that was
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rather a strange interlude and rather a
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shock why we went up there I have no
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idea the certainly was not our idea and
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who shall we say engineered this little
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trip into the year 21 37 is still
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unknown to me I have some ideas as new
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it might be but it gets into a little
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later part of the dissertation and
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discussion of what happened I asked
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about nine levels of Science and
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Technology oh yes he said nothing was
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lost during this whole period of the
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earth destruction of the earth upheavals
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in the war is the reason we have
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computers we have TV we have all kinds
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of communications I didn't ask him about
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space travel or what was going on in
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terms of what was once NASA didn't think
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to ask him about that because I was
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shall we say preoccupied with the
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otherwise very changes and the total
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shifting the size of civilization and
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its structure
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I asked about money and banks he says oh
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yes there's no money they said the banks
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are a lot smaller than they were and
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they're not as active and watching TV
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you know I think about it I didn't see a
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single ad about anything so there was
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some major changes now we stayed there
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approximately six weeks I'm saying we
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don't go to myself
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we'd get up out of bed eventually and
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move around but before the next phase
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began I'll have to say that I thought we
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were stuck there perhaps forever without
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the slightest idea of how we got there
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in the first place and they couldn't
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explain it either we suddenly appeared
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someplace where they picked us up on
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conscious returned in to an ambulance
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crew and they took us to a hospital and
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we were in uniform so they knew we were
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military personnel but the military had
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changed drastically in the meantime and
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the military of that era had no
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particularly interest in us one day
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wandering around that hospital and
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hospital grounds
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I disappeared from that era and from
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2137 and I wound up and I still further
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future date by what means who arranged
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it who provided the transportation I
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don't know who is obviously a form of
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time travel the interesting thing about
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it was that Duncan was not with me he
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remained behind at 21:37 as I found out
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later I wound up in the 20th century and
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this was a time period at 27:49 to 2751
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ad talk about changes in civilization
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society and everything else
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it was drastically changed water so on
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21:37 as this is now six hundred years
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later the cities were enormous the
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cities were beautiful they had ground
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base that as much as we have always had
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them but they also had something else
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floating cities floating cities due to
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anti-gravity techniques being perfected
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sufficiently that they could floated an
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entire city which is perhaps not as
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large as any of our current cities I was
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round to a very nearly round but it
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floated on this platform and they could
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move the city any place they wanted
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remaining floating in the air four or
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five thousand feet above the ground
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perhaps or a little less depending on
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what they wanted but the size of the
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city was vertical rather than horizontal
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2200 storeys high
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that's about two and a half miles and I
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learned about this and look this night
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said to myself because I befriended some
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people on the 28th century how do they
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support this and strengthen materials of
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anything we know and I'm sure in this
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era is inadequate to withstand the load
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of all of those stories above the ground
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of the lowest level I say quite true I
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said well how do you do it I says well
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very simply it's about every 300 floors
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we put another anti-gravity platform
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which relief relieves the weight of all
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of those sections above on the section
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below and they do
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for every 300 stories or so and you
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break it up into 300 story sections
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which is not impossible by even today
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strength of materials but by as future
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to strengthen materials and advances no
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problem whatever so we've divided it up
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and the weight load was only on one
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level and then below it was independent
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in terms of load though they were all
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well attached and by that means they
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suspended the load into a distributed
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form which made it very feasible the
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cities could move anywhere on the planet
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basically the stayed hovering and
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floating no decision like a particular
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location there were some results there
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wasn't that much traffic in moving
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cities I can assure you because the
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world population and that era in the
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20th century is only 500 million and I
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was instructed later that that was where
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they had held it for centuries there
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would be no more than approximately 500
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million population some of the features
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of this let's let's start from the
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political standpoint as I learned all of
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these cities were the ground based
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cities which the majority were was added
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you're manufacturing they have
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agriculture and various of the things to
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supply the needs of civilization but all
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of them were the floating our
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ground-based were rather interesting in
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the governmental form they had
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essentially no government there's no
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government as we know it today
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there was no money there's no banks
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there's no political jurisdictions and
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there was MF resulted I resolved down to
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what would be best called a city state
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structure where the city is the state
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and any other cities of from that one
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are independent and operated in their
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own independent manner so that was the
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major exchange there there was no
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elected government there's no appointed
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government there was no government as we
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had never seen it in the past as I found
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out each city was run by an intelligent
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computer synthetic intelligence
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synthetic consciousness a highly
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radioactive crystalline structure who
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built them I had no idea nobody seemed
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to know but they've been there for
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hundreds of years and this computer ran
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the entire city there were guidelines
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set down there were laws law books but
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no courts no guidelines set down as to
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how you're to behave what your
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parameters were within these parameters
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anything went anything was not
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considered kosher within this realm this
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parameter limit would be expressed as a
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yellow zone I use on that you don't want
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to go into and you don't want to become
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involved in that type of behavior if you
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got out in that area were given an
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invite for a reprimand to the computer
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which Lewis won in every city running
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each city toward that he would literally
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be called in France shows a an interview
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or an audience with the computer and it
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would you would be advised that you had
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broken the law but it wasn't considered
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a felony it was a misdemeanor a
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misdemeanor such if you were judged
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guilty
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you were sent off to one of the work
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camps for whatever purpose they did in
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the war camps I would be much like today
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I presume where any kind of labor menial
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or otherwise had to be done was done and
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that was compulsory that was not
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voluntary if you were called in because
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you read one outside the yellow zone
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into what is called the red zone which
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is basically what you would today call a
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felony offense you immediately called in
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for an interview
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you're examined looked at talked to and
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if the computer at that point thought
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that you were rehab it able that you
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could learn again to be sociable on
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within the social bounds of normalcy you
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were given one more chance if the
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computer decided that you were not
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capable of fitting into society
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you were terminated right then are there
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other other people who didn't feel like
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they could fit into the society but had
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not yet committed any of the so-called
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offenses literally they were allowed to
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leave or the the word was if you don't
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like it here go go there somewheres else
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go out in the boonies if you want live
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as a hermit we don't care and many did I
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do not know what percentage errs told
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the quite a lot of people had left the
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cities and growing out my in the
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boondocks
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what are they form communities or not I
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never did find out the technology was so
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advanced on that that you had for
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transportation within the city put the
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cold Axela Tron's consider it very much
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like a moving walkway as we have today
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except that when you got on it you could
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literally jump ahead and move any form
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of suspended gravity at a very high rate
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of speed
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along this Beltway and when you got to a
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point where you wanted to get off you
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just literally jumped off and the kids
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love to play with these this sort of toy
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they consider it at a toy and it's just
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so much turn through I was getting in a
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wave it do that was great fun these
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excelled Tron's went across and even in
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the sky cities across open spaces and
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the interior of the ste structure there
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was a fairly large open space eventually
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I got my turn to talk with the computer
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it was a part of what was called the
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Lama systems now why that name was
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chosen I don't know but it was a fact
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that every one of those computer
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installations though independent was
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tied together in the network not known
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by most of the city dwellers which
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included every city on the planet so
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that there was a cohesion between the
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computers cooperation had generally they
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kept track of each other I spent almost
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two years in this very large complex I
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traveled around a lot one of the other
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things was yes the war rails for
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railroads but there changed a lot they
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went
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for the purpose of excursion having fun
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and go out in one of these excursions
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was a big party the rail was much
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lighter than our current rail system
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perhaps two to two and a half times
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wider to accommodate a much larger car
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much wider and with that of course they
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had rule Italy rolling dining rooms
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rolling ballrooms and could have a great
535
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,999
time and great fun literally traveling
536
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:23,999
from one city to the other no other
537
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,999
purpose other than having fun into
538
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,999
taking a trip somewhere as if you
539
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,999
weren't required to work which no one
540
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,999
was required to other than their social
541
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,999
obligation which was well inculcated
542
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,999
into the kids that you had an obligation
543
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,999
to contribute to society to pay for what
544
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,999
you have been using Kant had inherited
545
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,999
for which no money and was involved a
546
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,999
sort of credit system was still
547
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,999
functional but not otherwise next up for
548
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,999
fairly large credit purchases if that is
549
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,999
the right term they didn't really keep
550
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,999
track of very much it was considered
551
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,999
quite free as long as you were able to
552
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,999
make some contributions and I nobody
553
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,999
overloaded the system with demands that
554
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,999
happened very seldom that there was an
555
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,999
overload of demand for goods or services
556
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,999
so as a result of that there was a very
557
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:28,999
the abuse of the system now in this
558
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,999
period of time talking with many people
559
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,999
making friends I had a number of
560
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,999
questions who built this computer system
561
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,999
that was my first and foremost question
562
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,999
who maintains it what happens when it
563
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,999
breaks down very common questions for no
564
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,999
common answer and very much uncommon
565
00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:00,999
answers first question about those
566
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,999
cities who built them who maintains them
567
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,999
who maintains the computers was rather
568
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:07,999
hard to answer
569
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,999
get an answer - no one really knew much
570
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,999
about the history of the construction of
571
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,999
the city or outran other than the
572
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,999
computer and you couldn't request an
573
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,999
interview you could request the GUI and
574
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,999
ask questions if it was busy with
575
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,999
something else okay come on in
576
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,999
but understanding of course that this
577
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,999
was a highly radioactive device there
578
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,999
was a radioactive crystalline structure
579
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,999
you had to wear the equivalent of a LED
580
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,999
suit a radiation suit much like NASA as
581
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,999
today except there was some LED material
582
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,999
added to make sure that you were not
583
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,999
affected by the hard radiation you can
584
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:45,999
go and have an interview and ask a lot
585
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,999
of questions and I did more than once
586
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,999
I've got some answers I would say the
587
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,999
row is satisfactory but I did find out
588
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,999
eventually that a number of interesting
589
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,999
things while there was no longer a
590
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,999
military I'm speaking to the 28th
591
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,999
century in any of the city structures
592
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,999
and any of the data information of this
593
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,999
computer complex but they did
594
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,999
interconnect indeed just like an email
595
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,999
net or another computer complex there
596
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,999
were a lot of people on the line giving
597
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:26,999
information and taking information the
598
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,999
aspect of how these computers
599
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,999
communicated with each other was unknown
600
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,999
but it didn't make the one I talked what
601
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,999
did make a number of interesting
602
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,999
statements over a period of time they
603
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,999
have been around for about 200 250 years
604
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,999
in this format in the system there was
605
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,999
no one to do any maintenance apparently
606
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,999
there was no maintenance such if one of
607
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,999
them broke down was simply replaced but
608
00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,999
I wasn't satisfied with some of these
609
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,999
answers I started looking further didn't
610
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,999
find much for a while then all of a
611
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,999
sudden I got an invite to come visit
612
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,999
with another group a human group which I
613
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,999
did and then I found the answers to all
614
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,999
of my questions all of the questions I
615
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,999
had and mine they were able to answer
616
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,999
number one who built the computer system
617
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,999
they said they did and the project was
618
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,999
started about 2600 AD and was a
619
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,999
basically an experimental system for the
620
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,999
purpose of seeing if they could run an
621
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,999
entire civilization by computer and also
622
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,999
provide full socialization ie everything
623
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,999
is free but also in the educational
624
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,999
system of process inculcate the idea
625
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,999
that people have a moral obligation to
626
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,999
do something for the community because
627
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,999
the community had supported them
628
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,999
therefore they have to help support
629
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,999
others in the community which didn't
630
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,999
work most of the time in a smaller
631
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,999
community it works much better than in a
632
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,999
larger community as you get cities the
633
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,999
will over million population it's very
634
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,999
difficult to get something like this to
635
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,999
work and to be usable on a consistent
636
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,999
basis that was one of the questions I
637
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,999
had nor a lot of others I asked about
638
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,999
the military aspects know where we know
639
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,999
was no more military well how do you
640
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,999
defend yourself in case somebody comes
641
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,999
along that's a lot of a lot of hardware
642
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,999
a lot of missions a lot of a military
643
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,999
clout and wants to take over a city or
644
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,999
the whole planet and how do you prevent
645
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,999
this or do you well the answer was
646
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,999
rather complex but basically basically
647
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,999
it came down the fact that they had
648
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,999
hidden weapon systems in the cities at
649
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,999
every installation was a city but they
650
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,999
had all of these installations all over
651
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,999
and they were well concealed they were
652
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,999
not described to me as exactly what they
653
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,999
were but they said they were capable of
654
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,999
deflecting and defending a city from an
655
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,999
invasion from outer space there's no
656
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,999
data given as to whether or not there
657
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,999
had been any such attempt to take over
658
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:24,999
in the past but at that time we saw
659
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,999
nothing resembling any kind of an attack
660
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,999
any kind of a threat was very peaceful
661
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,999
as perhaps because of that peacefulness
662
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,999
that people were basically so happy
663
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,999
there it was you might say the end
664
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,999
result of a long dream about a pure
665
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,999
socialist state they had it and it
666
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,999
seemed to work there's only one fault
667
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,999
with it that I saw and this is something
668
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,999
which I have discerned since I've been
669
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,999
back after many years you get a C or
670
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,999
group which is purely socialistic no
671
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,999
money how do you keep that group
672
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,999
together how do you keep the society
673
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,999
together I've been that case you're
674
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,999
looking at a situation where is partly
675
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,999
by the will of the people
676
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,999
partly by show say some kind of internal
677
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,999
control and partly because one could say
678
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,999
there's a little choice if you don't
679
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,999
wanna live in city you go out in the
680
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,999
boonies if you don't know how to survive
681
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,999
by yourself you stay in the city
682
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,999
survival skills are not something that
683
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,999
was commonly taught in those days
684
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,999
because all the technical problems a
685
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,999
breakdown of equipment have long since
686
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,999
been solved and the equipment's
687
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,999
generally wrote who are working and
688
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,999
continue to work for about two hundred
689
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:58,999
years without much maintenance the
690
00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,999
maintenance was required was definitely
691
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,999
directed by the intelligence in the
692
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,999
computer systems existed for doing
693
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,999
repairs and maintenance of course if
694
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:09,999
they had manufacturing systems they had
695
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,999
to have maintenance systems to serve as
696
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,999
the manufacturing equipments all of what
697
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,999
was manufactured they don't know there
698
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,999
was definitely a lot of agriculture in
699
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,999
the serf endless on the surface a in the
700
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,999
periphery basically of some of the
701
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,999
surface cities some of the agriculture
702
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,999
went outside the city limits outside the
703
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,999
periphery of the city but not a lot they
704
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,999
seemed to produce more than enough food
705
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,999
for what they needed
706
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,999
which was good there was no problem the
707
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,999
threats of food shortages the idea of a
708
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,999
threat to the survival in a civilized
709
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,999
society had long since faded because the
710
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,999
people was so well cared for
711
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,999
but the herein is also a problem his
712
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,999
people were well cared for by a
713
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,999
socialist system they didn't have to
714
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,999
work to do anything even though they
715
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,999
were expected to work and expect to
716
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,999
contribute to society it was not
717
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:14,999
demanded the things I saw in the society
718
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,999
and civilization were at first unique to
719
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,999
me and I would say with not only without
720
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,999
precedent I had no comparison no basis
721
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,999
from the memories of the 20th century
722
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,999
because of the time of my arrival my
723
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,999
memory of the 20th century was wiped out
724
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,999
all of the comparisons I have done have
725
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,999
come since because at this point I'm
726
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,999
able to compare what I saw at that time
727
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,999
with what I know of course of the 20th
728
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,999
century but it was sort of strange in
729
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,999
that I didn't know really why I was
730
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,999
there
731
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,999
I didn't know whether I had any
732
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,999
connection with the Philadelphia
733
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,999
Experiment or anything else in the past
734
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,999
but there I was wandering around the
735
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,999
city as one of the regular inhabitants
736
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,999
occasionally taking trips out of the
737
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,999
city which were a lot of fun and meeting
738
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,999
this group who built the computer system
739
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,999
now as they told me this was an
740
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,999
experimental system a sort of an
741
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:15,999
experiment a social behavior
742
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,999
not necessarily behavior modification
743
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,999
but social behavior to see whether they
744
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,999
could build a city and have it be run by
745
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,999
a computer after setting down certain
746
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,999
parameters of what you do or don't do in
747
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,999
a society in which you have a city or
748
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,999
even a smaller community it was obvious
749
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,999
to them as it was to me that the
750
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,999
experiment was largely working but my
751
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,999
questions
752
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,999
in retrospect meanings from the
753
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,999
viewpoint of now and from what they told
754
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,999
me also yes it is next
755
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,999
but they do not know if it will succeed
756
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,999
because one of the problems which
757
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:56,999
develops when you have pure socialism
758
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,999
like that which is working and that
759
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,999
everything seems to be running smoothly
760
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,999
you have no incentive no one has an
761
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,999
incentive to go out and do something new
762
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:08,999
nobody has an incentive which says you
763
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,999
must try something like this to make a a
764
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,999
better living so to speak you didn't
765
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,999
have to make a living everything was
766
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,999
provided you didn't have to get an
767
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,999
education and this of course but at that
768
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,999
point already a a severe a severe
769
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,999
restriction on original research because
770
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,999
people weren't interested in doing it so
771
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,999
they didn't and eventually the society
772
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,999
appears of it fell apart but certainly
773
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,999
was at its peak point I was they right
774
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,999
around that time 2020 900 AD and
775
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,999
probably was for some time after that
776
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,999
but the group that designed and built
777
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,999
this system built all of the computer
778
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,999
link-ups and occasionally one would go
779
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,999
bad as I was there just before I left
780
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,999
for one I go in sour and it was removed
781
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,999
at a later date I believe but I did
782
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,999
learn the name of this group of people
783
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,999
who are the essentially the designers of
784
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,999
the whole system the computer systems
785
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,999
the city structures the city set up they
786
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,999
call themselves the WingMakers now some
787
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,999
of you may have heard of the WingMakers
788
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,999
group and certainly has turned up on
789
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,999
20th century computers 20th century runs
790
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,999
and a lot of data has been turned out
791
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:27,999
hundreds of pages and some of the
792
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,999
manuals describing the discovery of
793
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,999
their stash in new mexico and about
794
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,999
eight 1974 and which the only thing they
795
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,999
found which was out of place for an
796
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,999
eighth century AD indian burial mound or
797
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,999
indian burial of whatever the item that
798
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,999
was out of control ii at a context was a
799
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,999
compass it resulted in NSA becoming
800
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,999
involved with this descending on the
801
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,999
site sealing it off and looking to see
802
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,999
if possibly whether we're looking at was
803
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,999
actually an alien type of installation a
804
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,999
nail
805
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,999
and crash or whatever they did not ever
806
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,999
find any evidence of aliens the fact
807
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,999
they didn't find enough evidence to
808
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,999
support any thesis so they closed it
809
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,999
down and after an earthquake and about
810
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:27,999
the year 1994 approximately a wall
811
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,999
disappeared due to the earthquake and
812
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,999
they had a tunnel an artificial looking
813
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,999
tunnel she went to a circular staircase
814
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,999
clawed right in the rock which is quite
815
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,999
obviously artificial and 23 rooms off
816
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,999
that staircase in the long tunnel all of
817
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,999
which contained relics of some
818
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,999
civilization was advanced paintings and
819
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,999
in the last on the 23rd room was a laser
820
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,999
disc an actual optical disc much like
821
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,999
what we have today except the coding in
822
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,999
it was such that it could not be decoded
823
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,999
mega long story short it took a year and
824
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,999
a half one of the experts there in
825
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:02,999
languages
826
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,999
20 languages and so ancient Sumerian and
827
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,999
somehow got the clues from the pictures
828
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,999
on the walls 23 rooms 23 pictures or
829
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,999
paintings and all in good shape they
830
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,999
finally cracked the optical discs and
831
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,999
they who had made the disk and left it
832
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,999
there stated very clearly that they had
833
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,999
left this - an 880 approximately 8
834
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:26,999
century
835
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,999
and there was 6 more like it around the
836
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,999
earth seven total the object was for man
837
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,999
to dig knees up when he got to the point
838
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,999
where it technically he could do it and
839
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,999
understand what was there and learned
840
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,999
their concerns about civilization well
841
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,999
one has been found that was in New
842
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,999
Mexico there are six more there were
843
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,999
rumors that a second one has been found
844
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,999
but of course the first one was totally
845
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,999
into the control of NSA National
846
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,999
Security Agency underneath the basic
847
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,999
organization was another one called a
848
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,999
cio advanced contacts intelligence
849
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,999
organization they are the ones who
850
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,999
apparently pull all of the rare and
851
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,999
exotic research involving finds which
852
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,999
might look like aliens but
853
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,999
in this case not to be it was a
854
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,999
time-travel operation and that is the
855
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,999
group which is set aside to do it and as
856
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,999
a special group within a Gao known as
857
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,999
the WingMakers group which was working
858
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,999
on this project and keeping it very very
859
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,999
secret they identified the group there
860
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,999
was some having come from the 20th
861
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,999
century originating in the 28th century
862
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,999
they called themselves the WingMakers
863
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,999
which is what I remember and they were
864
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,999
interactive with this time period also
865
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,999
that is the twentieth century into the
866
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,999
21st century they did not give me any
867
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,999
indication at the time when I was into a
868
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,999
century that they were interactive with
869
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,999
the 20th century but I got the distinct
870
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,999
impression that I had not seen the last
871
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,999
one from the various things they said I
872
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,999
have not seen them since I might add not
873
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,999
in any physical sense unless it was by
874
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,999
accident because there was no
875
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,999
communication and it might have been an
876
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:14,999
instance where I saw some of their
877
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,999
people three of them in a men's health
878
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,999
club on one Sunday afternoon in Atlanta
879
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,999
about two years ago no communication
880
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:23,999
with anyone not even communicating
881
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,999
between themselves the group was
882
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,999
telepathic and whether it was them or
883
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,999
not I don't know but I have a suspicion
884
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,999
they were too genetically perfect to
885
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:33,999
have been at this time of this era so
886
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,999
they could have been but since then the
887
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,999
indications have been via the internet
888
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,999
and that information which was dropped
889
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,999
on the net to interviews out of five
890
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,999
that had been given by dr. Anderson a
891
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,999
pseudonym but one of the senior workers
892
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,999
with the language capability that
893
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,999
protract the optical disk found an
894
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,999
outside person to take some interviews
895
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,999
five and all and translate them into a
896
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,999
material which would be put on the
897
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,999
internet he wanted the material out well
898
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,999
two got out and some other material and
899
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,999
that was the last ever seen a heard of
900
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,999
either and or dr. Anderson there's no
901
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,999
answer at this point as to whether or
902
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,999
not those two people are still alive or
903
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:21,999
dead what's happened to them and the
904
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:22,999
other three interviews have never
905
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,999
appeared on the Internet
906
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,999
there's enough that has appeared to make
907
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,999
a very substantial story and a very
908
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,999
substantial indications that these guys
909
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,999
were not flakes their section on
910
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,999
philosophy alone is enough to really
911
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,999
stir one and the pictures are very very
912
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,999
strange according to those who found
913
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,999
them on the walls they were still in
914
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,999
very good condition repairs this is from
915
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,999
the 8th century to the 20th century
916
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,999
which is a twelve hundred years and
917
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,999
there's been I was very little
918
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,999
deterioration or for that matter there's
919
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,999
very little dust in the rooms but they
920
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,999
found some means to protect them further
921
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,999
I mean the CIA does have some rather
922
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,999
advanced technologies available to them
923
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,999
and NSA and they made some further
924
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,999
attempt to preserve the paintings what
925
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,999
they did I don't know but what is
926
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:17,999
interesting is that the other stashes
927
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,999
have yet to turn up and they insisted
928
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,999
from this one optical discs that were
929
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,999
six more when the time was right they'd
930
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,999
all be found they were very concerned
931
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:27,999
about the survival of humanity
932
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,999
throughout this very critical period of
933
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,999
history meaning a twentieth century into
934
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,999
the 21st century now in retrospect
935
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,999
looking back at them and the things they
936
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,999
said and what I now remember they were
937
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,999
not convinced in my view that the
938
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,999
socialist experiment was a success it
939
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,999
was a success to revert very certain
940
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,999
degree in terms of the local time period
941
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,999
in the local era and perhaps in terms of
942
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,999
what problems had developed prior to
943
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,999
their starting this experiment ie the
944
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,999
collapses or near collapse of
945
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,999
civilization and trying to rebuild in
946
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,999
the period after 21:37 22nd century up
947
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,999
through the 26th I had no indication of
948
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,999
the history in that period as to what
949
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,999
transpired nothing was discussed with me
950
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,999
I got the impression that it was not
951
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,999
exactly in very good shape the may have
952
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,999
been of the problems that developed in
953
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,999
the interim but by that time of the 26th
954
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,999
century they got a handle on synthetic
955
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,999
intelligence they decided to go ahead
956
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,999
and rebuild civilization using what they
957
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,999
called the llama system the system of
958
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,999
intelligence
959
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,999
created in a crystalline form
960
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,999
consciously aware and having certain
961
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,999
other abilities which would normally be
962
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,999
classed as metaphysical these computers
963
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,999
were able to do things which perhaps
964
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,999
some of our best gurus would have
965
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,999
trouble doing manipulation of
966
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,999
matter manipulation of time by these
967
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,999
computers so they were not unintelligent
968
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,999
they were very intelligent but they had
969
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,999
no ethics and morality as we understand
970
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:12,999
them and as we exit use them so my
971
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,999
question to myself or perhaps to anyone
972
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,999
else is are these guys looking now
973
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,999
perhaps for another solution obviously
974
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,999
we learned in this century that if there
975
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:25,999
is no competitive spirit if there is no
976
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,999
desire to succeed if there is no
977
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:28,999
pressure
978
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,999
on an individual to learn to do
979
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,999
something constructive to succeed to
980
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,999
help build some little corner on brick
981
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,999
or two in our civilization without that
982
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,999
pressure if people don't do anything and
983
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,999
if you suddenly wind up in a situation
984
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,999
where all of your needs and wants are
985
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,999
granted for free and you don't have to
986
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,999
go out and work for them you don't have
987
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,999
to do something to go get them you don't
988
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,999
have to cut down trees go out and skin
989
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,999
animals for their furs to survive but
990
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,999
suddenly everything is handed to you on
991
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,999
a silver platter yeah at first that
992
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,999
seems great and will work for a while
993
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,999
but after a period of time it's going to
994
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,999
fall apart and I think they were at the
995
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,999
point where they're beginning to realize
996
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,999
that this was going to happen now from
997
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,999
that point after nearly two years I was
998
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,999
told I had to go back I says go back
999
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:21,999
where what for
1000
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,999
it says well you came out of the past
1001
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,999
and there's certain problems back there
1002
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:26,999
that were unresolved and you will have
1003
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,999
to go back and solve them I don't know
1004
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,999
what you're talking about I didn't at
1005
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,999
that point remember my involvement at
1006
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:33,999
the Philadelphia area that was
1007
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,999
brainwashed number one if you will and
1008
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,999
the lava the local one kept insisting
1009
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,999
you must go back
1010
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,999
I said on water says you will go back
1011
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,999
and I did but before I left during that
1012
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,999
two-year period I met somebody became a
1013
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:52,999
very close companion he happened to be a
1014
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,999
tour guide because there were a lot of
1015
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,999
Tours in those days and tour guides of
1016
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,999
course were necessary to take people
1017
00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,999
around and show them the sights and
1018
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,999
showing some of the old cities New York
1019
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,999
City was a museum if you will as were
1020
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,999
some other the old cities in the 20th
1021
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,999
century those that survived and they
1022
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,999
made very nice museums out of them New
1023
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,999
York was a sort of the model to show how
1024
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,999
people live in the 20th century a great
1025
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:19,999
deal of it I did go on that tour a great
1026
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,999
deal of it was still intact most of
1027
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,999
Manhattan not all of it
1028
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,999
Brooklyn Queens were essentially
1029
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,999
destroyed and they didn't make any
1030
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:31,999
attempt to rebuild it because the
1031
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,999
destruction was too heavy but the
1032
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,999
concrete and steel of New York of
1033
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,999
Manhattan and some of the other
1034
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,999
buildings adjacent to Manhattan survived
1035
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,999
and what little damage the was was
1036
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,999
repaired and they made a very nice
1037
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,999
Museum of it you can go through it and
1038
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,999
tour it see the underground subway
1039
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,999
systems I don't think they're up as I
1040
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,999
remember they were not operational but
1041
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,999
everything was there made a very
1042
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:03,999
interesting review of history from the
1043
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,999
standpoint of those of the 20th century
1044
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,999
what we take for granted today of course
1045
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,999
they didn't and at that point I did not
1046
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,999
have my memory of the 20th century but
1047
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,999
as time went on I came back after I left
1048
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,999
the 20th century they said I had to go
1049
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,999
back so I was sent back and of course
1050
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,999
this raises the question were they the
1051
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:26,999
ones who brought me up there in the
1052
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,999
first place I certainly didn't have any
1053
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:30,999
how had we handy to do it I certainly
1054
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,999
had no desire to go to the 20th century
1055
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,999
I knew nothing about it so I went back
1056
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,999
to 21 37 Duncan was there and I was
1057
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,999
moved with the idea we had to go back I
1058
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,999
had no idea how we were going to go back
1059
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:46,999
and I wasn't even sure at that point
1060
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,999
where but we did go back we were sent
1061
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,999
back to 1983
1062
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,999
the tomb of the early morning hours
1063
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,999
approximately 2:00 a.m. a 12 August 1983
1064
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,999
inside the chain-link fence of Montauk
1065
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,999
Point and this search lights came down
1066
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,999
from a large helicopter and MPs of quite
1067
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:12,999
a number came out grabbed us and took us
1068
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,999
to the building where when we boarded an
1069
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:16,999
elevator went down below and then of
1070
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,999
course met dr. John von Neumann at the
1071
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,999
point of our return however that is to
1072
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,999
1983 a great deal the memory of the
1073
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,999
other elements came back at this point
1074
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,999
I'm still not sure how much if it came
1075
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,999
back but quite a bit of it did and when
1076
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,999
we were returned to the Eldridge by the
1077
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,999
crew and his system at Montauk nearly
1078
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,999
the time tunnel and we're back in the
1079
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:45,999
Eldridge and it was back in the harbor
1080
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,999
and we went up an arm that is I wound up
1081
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,999
in the four-day board of inquiry Duncan
1082
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,999
jumped overboard and went back to the
1083
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,999
later part of that century in the 20th
1084
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,999
century but after giving my report of
1085
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,999
course I was not believed in retrospect
1086
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,999
I can understand why it was not believed
1087
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,999
it was who in the year 1983 is going to
1088
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,999
believe a story about 1943 is going to
1089
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,999
believe a story about 1983 much less
1090
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,999
about further on in the future than that
1091
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,999
or be hard enough to understand 1983
1092
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,999
it's only 40 years but enormous changes
1093
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,999
took place far more than would never
1094
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,999
have been normally expected and let us
1095
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,999
say the mental projection of what comes
1096
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,999
on after 1943 nobody expected such rapid
1097
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,999
development of aircraft of automobiles
1098
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:38,999
of highways of freeways systems of
1099
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,999
electronics of computers of course in
1100
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,999
1983 computers were not in the form to
1101
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,999
any extent of personal computers as
1102
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,999
today the case in the year 2000 but
1103
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,999
nevertheless computers existed and they
1104
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,999
were proliferating and every way and
1105
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,999
every respects but then to pad a story
1106
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,999
about 2137 I'm sure that was a little
1107
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,999
bit too much they thought I was a little
1108
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:07,999
bit ill I got
1109
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,999
some radiation sickness nobody said that
1110
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,999
because they gave a very coherent report
1111
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,999
but I'm sure they might well have been
1112
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:14,999
thinking it
1113
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,999
Duncan was not there to back me up
1114
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,999
unfortunately and he went on back to the
1115
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,999
year 1983 late 82 early 83 were not sure
1116
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,999
I say I'm not sure because those records
1117
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,999
we didn't dig out until after the month
1118
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,999
to a project collapsed I was in the 90s
1119
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,999
95 96 were able to find out what
1120
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,999
happened to Duncan the rest of the story
1121
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:40,999
of Duncan we were able to finally piece
1122
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,999
together was rather bizarre in its own
1123
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,999
way when Duncan and I were sent back to
1124
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:48,999
the elders to destroy the equipment
1125
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,999
which we did and the fields were
1126
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,999
collapsing it took over two minutes for
1127
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,999
that totally collapse and we found the
1128
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,999
two sailors bury in the steel of a deck
1129
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,999
in the steel of a bulkhead for the other
1130
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,999
two and I went over to talk with his
1131
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,999
brother Jim who was crying and dying and
1132
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,999
did die Duncan became so dismayed by all
1133
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,999
of this that he headed for the railing
1134
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,999
and looked back at me like well aren't I
1135
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,999
coming along with him and I replied no
1136
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,999
so he jumped over Boyd and as we found
1137
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:19,999
out later he wound up back at Montauk
1138
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,999
not at the same point in time 12 August
1139
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,999
83 but considerably earlier and became
1140
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,999
part of the project and did a lot of
1141
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,999
work for them the records indicated that
1142
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,999
as the records after the year in 1983
1143
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,999
that in one of the time tunnel
1144
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,999
operations that he was involved in he
1145
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:41,999
didn't know know something was strictly
1146
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,999
forbidden is that four regions they
1147
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,999
didn't understand occasionally side
1148
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,999
tunnels developed and their orders were
1149
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,999
never to go down the side tunnels
1150
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,999
because they didn't know why they were
1151
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,999
created how they were created or where
1152
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,999
they went and the OREA water was don't
1153
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,999
take a chance don't go down him oh you
1154
00:51:59,000 --> 00:51:59,999
don't say that's a Duncan not as he was
1155
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,999
then so he did down with the side
1156
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,999
tunnels I went up in the hands of aliens
1157
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,999
and they demanded of him that we want a
1158
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,999
certain piece of hardware like what now
1159
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,999
they told them there's a certain power
1160
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,999
package crystal aboard that UFO which
1161
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,999
is the buried in the underground there
1162
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,999
as part of the Montauk Project we want
1163
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,999
that crystal back my talk it says well I
1164
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,999
don't have to do with it just as well
1165
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,999
you will go back and get it or you will
1166
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,999
send somebody back to get it in fact
1167
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:36,999
they will just keep you here and hope
1168
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,999
that somebody finds out you're missing
1169
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,999
into sends another person here and we're
1170
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,999
given the message so eventually the
1171
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:48,999
message got back at Duncan had a problem
1172
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,999
and that the solution was to remove that
1173
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,999
large crystal and energy storage crystal
1174
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,999
unnamed UFO it wasn't was delivered
1175
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,999
there and Duncan was released but by
1176
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,999
that time the damage had been done his
1177
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,999
time locks have been broken and he was
1178
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,999
eating an extremely rapid read now you
1179
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,999
may ask what is a time lock we're
1180
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,999
referring to that ambiguous item which
1181
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,999
involves how is a person a new soul or
1182
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,999
an old soul doesn't matter that is a
1183
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,999
taking possession of a body that is in
1184
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,999
the process of being generated from the
1185
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,999
fetus onward how did he lock into that
1186
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,999
particular body well there is a
1187
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:30,999
connecting link that is also a
1188
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,999
connecting link to that point in the
1189
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,999
time stream as the reference point that
1190
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,999
this is where the person's life begins
1191
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,999
both physically and in terms of the
1192
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,999
attachment of the soul when the body and
1193
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,999
the body's gone and the soul is free
1194
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:46,999
they can travel up and down the time
1195
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,999
stream if they want to and take a body
1196
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,999
at some other time frame then the next
1197
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,999
slot so to speak after they died and
1198
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,999
occasionally this happens in any case
1199
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,999
Duncan wad up dying slowly but surely
1200
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,999
aging very rapidly the station personnel
1201
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,999
and those who were able to do age
1202
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,999
reversal already had that equipment
1203
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,999
there because they used it on me later
1204
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,999
apparently couldn't reverse them fast
1205
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,999
enough to keep it from overwhelming them
1206
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,999
and they in spite of the best efforts he
1207
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,999
was continuing to each so times old to
1208
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:24,999
the rescue namely Montauk back to the
1209
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,999
locate father and warn him and tell him
1210
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:29,999
that
1211
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,999
dumpin was dying you can't have this
1212
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:31,999
happen because
1213
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,999
the time stability problems kept busy
1214
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,999
and make another Duncan so he married
1215
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,999
his fifth wife illegal or marriage first
1216
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,999
job one was a sister and the second one
1217
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:49,999
was Duncan that was in June 28th 1951
1218
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,999
now for some very complex reasons the
1219
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,999
soul of Duncan could not enter that body
1220
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,999
directly at that time of birth normally
1221
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,999
that's what happens this most of the
1222
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,999
time I could not so they had to have a
1223
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,999
surrogate soul and as a surrogate soul
1224
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,999
was found to inhabit that body as a
1225
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,999
perfectly normal functioning body which
1226
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,999
it didn't dump in number two went to
1227
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,999
school acted like a very bright
1228
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,999
youngster I pictures up in that pay
1229
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,999
phase at that time dumpin does not want
1230
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,999
them be shown publicly now and he grew
1231
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,999
up to the age of 12 and according to
1232
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,999
information acquired later at the age of
1233
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,999
12 and the 12th of August 1963 the
1234
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,999
circuit saw was kicked out and the real
1235
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,999
Duncan came in his mother had reported a
1236
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,999
very sharp change in the personality at
1237
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,999
the time period he age of 12 in July
1238
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,999
August and that of course didn't mean
1239
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,999
anything to us until there's like
1240
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,999
reverse-engineering reverse-engineered
1241
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,999
what happened to Duncan and we find out
1242
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,999
rather at a strange but actually varèse
1243
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,999
a conclusive way when the project
1244
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,999
collapsed in 1983 dumpling was off of it
1245
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:11,999
I was offered president many other
1246
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,999
people but don't can I had a lot of
1247
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,999
psychological problems as a result of
1248
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,999
his involvement with the Montauk Project
1249
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,999
the Montauk Boys and eventually he came
1250
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,999
to seek help from someone he was told
1251
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:25,999
could help and then we press the Nichols
1252
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,999
now at this point of course he had been
1253
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,999
brainwashed that his debriefed just as
1254
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,999
head Preston as that I had had everybody
1255
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,999
else who survived that operation and he
1256
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:39,999
didn't know Preston when he walked in
1257
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,999
the door Preston didn't know Duncan but
1258
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,999
he says first of all he had some high
1259
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:45,999
five
1260
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,999
when he wanted fixed which breast
1261
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,999
murmurs and the business of doing and
1262
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,999
then the matter of discussions that went
1263
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,999
on after that point person asked me a
1264
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,999
few questions and says well it sounds
1265
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,999
like you have some problems if you're
1266
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,999
willing we'll try some deprogramming
1267
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,999
we'll try some hypnosis on you so about
1268
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:12,999
1986 he hypnotized Duncan and took them
1269
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,999
back from gradually from the period of
1270
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,999
the Montauk Project to the age of 12
1271
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,999
which everything seemed to be normal as
1272
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,999
normal it's going to be expected time
1273
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,999
together so forth then they took Duncan
1274
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,999
back so let's go earlier well they did a
1275
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:26,999
quantum leap jump to the decks of the
1276
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,999
Eldridge this is what was ported to me
1277
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,999
by Preston after the hypnosis session
1278
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,999
and was on the deck knee says I'm at
1279
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:35,999
some strange ship called the Eldridge
1280
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,999
and so there are people here that I know
1281
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,999
today as one of them is Al Bielek and he
1282
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:43,999
names some others have been meaning to
1283
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,999
me and the aspect of the Montauk Boys
1284
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,999
program but at least we had determined
1285
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,999
what had happened to the Duncan we knew
1286
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,999
that I met at that time as Al Bielek was
1287
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,999
essentially the same Duncan except that
1288
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,999
there is a buddy change and by the same
1289
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,999
father the body came out nearly the same
1290
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,999
a different mother but that has a long
1291
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,999
and howling experience trying to dig all
1292
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,999
that out and we did breast intercourse
1293
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,999
was having problems with his own
1294
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,999
memories and to this day he is asked for
1295
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:22,999
help and he says I don't know anybody
1296
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,999
can deprogram me I can deprogram
1297
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:25,999
everybody else but he's going to
1298
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,999
deprogram me says I want to get clear
1299
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,999
this also that was a very interesting
1300
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,999
statement on his part and of course
1301
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,999
today it doesn't do too much about it
1302
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:39,999
because he's had to drop all the
1303
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,999
deprogramming efforts because he got
1304
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:43,999
into shall we say some difficulty with
1305
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,999
the military over some of us
1306
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:46,999
deprogramming efforts with some of the
1307
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,999
local boys and sailors and military
1308
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,999
people and non-military people on a Long
1309
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,999
Island area he had quite a reputation
1310
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:56,999
president I mean
1311
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,999
and people sought them out today we
1312
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,999
won't do any deprogramming is in other
1313
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,999
areas now let's get on to some other
1314
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,999
things here which I want to include in
1315
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,999
this report or shall I say this whole
1316
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,999
thing of my history there was another
1317
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,999
element I'm not going to get into an
1318
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,999
appropriate depth when I was removed
1319
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,999
from Los Alamos laboratories reassigned
1320
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,999
to the Pentagon and of course went to
1321
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,999
Muroc now Edwards Air Force Base and was
1322
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,999
a witness to the mock wound proceedings
1323
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,999
in the Mach 1 test which was successful
1324
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,999
as I had stated on 28 october 1947 I met
1325
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,999
Jack Ridley who was a aeronautical
1326
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,999
engineer with a master's degree from
1327
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,999
Caltech was also a pilot and the army
1328
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,999
and of course eventually became the Army
1329
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,999
Air Force and about 1947 they were just
1330
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,999
changing over to the official US Air
1331
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,999
Force I got to know quite well we talked
1332
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:03,999
great deal about this problem of
1333
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,999
propulsion high speed aircraft and such
1334
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,999
we're discussing the aspects of future
1335
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:14,999
travel such as in space and we came to
1336
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:15,999
the conclusion Hill rockets are fine for
1337
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,999
short periods of time they're very
1338
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,999
powerful but they are very short-lived
1339
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,999
they don't last long nASA has made them
1340
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,999
work amazingly well but that's still the
1341
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,999
same story and basic principle a lot of
1342
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,999
power for a relatively short period of
1343
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,999
time how do you conduct long extended
1344
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,999
explorations in space now this is
1345
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,999
without any consideration of the montauk
1346
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,999
tunnel situation or anything like that
1347
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,999
which at that point we knew nothing
1348
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,999
about because it hadn't yet happened I'm
1349
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,999
speaking of course in 1947 under 48 we
1350
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,999
became good friends and we both hatched
1351
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,999
up an idea where I need to develop as a
1352
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,999
my own propulsion engine well we were
1353
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:56,999
convinced would work we're both
1354
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,999
physicists when he had the advantage of
1355
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,999
also being an aeronautical engineer and
1356
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,999
he liked the idea so he went back to his
1357
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:04,999
principles in the Air Force and I went
1358
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,999
back to mine and then a
1359
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,999
get the Pentagon gave a pitch as to what
1360
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,999
we thought would be some of the future
1361
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,999
engine's future propulsion systems
1362
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,999
particularly for space exploration and
1363
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,999
we thought we could develop one well
1364
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,999
both the Navy in the Air Force loved the
1365
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,999
idea and they gave us some monies as go
1366
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,999
ahead and acquire a facility will fund
1367
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,999
it see what you can do and put us on
1368
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:28,999
executive leave
1369
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,999
I don't know now why we made the
1370
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,999
decision to go to California but Edwards
1371
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,999
is in Eastern California and we liked
1372
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,999
the idea of perhaps something closer to
1373
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,999
the ocean we wound up acquiring a
1374
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,999
facility which is about half a mile east
1375
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,999
of coast 101 which does say about a half
1376
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,999
a mile east of the beach and who was up
1377
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:52,999
in an area which was at that time
1378
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,999
extremely open one of the roads led up
1379
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,999
into the canyon country Topanga Canyon
1380
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,999
specifically and this Beach Road was
1381
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,999
where we built the facility we started
1382
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,999
operations about 49 without going of the
1383
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:09,999
history of the failures of which there
1384
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,999
were many and we had a small staff was
1385
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,999
all paid for by the military by in 1952
1386
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,999
it looks like we're beginning somewhere
1387
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,999
is in January 1953 we had the first
1388
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,999
fully successful test we had an engine
1389
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,999
on the test and which produced twelve
1390
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,999
hundred pounds thrust for twenty minutes
1391
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,999
and I go was 1,000 pounds thrust for ten
1392
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,999
minutes what we exceeded it I decided
1393
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:34,999
we're going to let the end range and run
1394
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,999
all day to see if it would it didn't one
1395
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,999
of the ion feeds broke down after 20
1396
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,999
minutes we had to shut it down even
1397
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,999
though it was a very highly classified
1398
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,999
project the word got around for the
1399
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,999
industry yeah craft industry of course
1400
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,999
and Douglas of Long Beach was ecstatic
1401
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,999
they wanted to work with us I don't know
1402
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:55,999
what they had in mind but they did
1403
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,999
definitely like what we had done and
1404
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,999
wanted to work with us Martin aircraft
1405
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,999
and the East Coast which was a well
1406
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,999
known aircraft company at that time and
1407
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:05,999
still exist DOMA has merged with
1408
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:11,999
Lockheed were so we say really gruff no
1409
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,999
comment Boeing heard about it and they
1410
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,999
hit the roof well we got the feedback on
1411
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:19,999
that when we figured well they must have
1412
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,999
something in the role in the skunkworks
1413
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:22,999
their own smoke works and probably we
1414
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,999
beat them to the draw appears on the
1415
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,999
scene at that point my father the
1416
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,999
natural father Alexander Duncan camera
1417
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,999
senior whose life has been a great
1418
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,999
mystery and only in the last year we've
1419
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,999
been able to put together some of the
1420
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,999
missing pieces at that time I had almost
1421
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,999
none of the missing pieces other than we
1422
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,999
know he disappeared for long periods of
1423
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,999
time and superimposing knowledge from
1424
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,999
now on what happened then I will say
1425
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,999
when he approached us and said to us I
1426
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,999
like what you're doing incorporate and I
1427
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,999
will give you unlimited funding he says
1428
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,999
if you ever get this company off the
1429
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,999
ground you will undoubtedly make a great
1430
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,999
deal of money and this will become a man
1431
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,999
a multi-million multinational company so
1432
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,999
he was all for backing it and his source
1433
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,999
of funds was a strange organization
1434
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,999
called the Wolfsburg trust since WOL FSB
1435
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,999
urg trusts out of Wolfsburg Germany
1436
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,999
founded by dr. Hans Porsche the founder
1437
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,999
of Porsche motor car company and of
1438
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:26,999
course VW motor car company the info I
1439
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,999
have which is sketchy and is very
1440
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:29,999
difficult to get information on almost
1441
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,999
brick trust is that it was founded by
1442
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,999
hands portion the thirties and of course
1443
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,999
there was under the nose of Hitler but
1444
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,999
Hitler was not completely the maniac at
1445
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,999
least in those days that is when has
1446
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,999
been portrayed to be and he was rather
1447
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:47,999
hard-headed at that time and his
1448
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,999
problems let his Hitler's problems going
1449
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:51,999
off the deep end occurred apparently
1450
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,999
after 1941 but that time at least hands
1451
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,999
Porsche made a trust fund which he
1452
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,999
intended as it accrued money would be
1453
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,999
available after the times at that time
1454
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,999
he saw the war coming he said after the
1455
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,999
war would be available for third world
1456
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,999
countries that wish to become democratic
1457
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,999
governments now they would hopefully
1458
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:13,999
have enough money to help these smaller
1459
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,999
countries to incorporate their own
1460
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,999
government and democratic basis at the
1461
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,999
time the father walked in that office I
1462
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,999
didn't know how much money he had or
1463
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,999
where it came from but since then I
1464
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,999
found out that the Wolfsburg trust at
1465
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,999
its peak which was around that period
1466
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,999
had something over three trillion
1467
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:33,999
dollars in
1468
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,999
trust trillion not billion they
1469
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,999
definitely had the clout to help a few
1470
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,999
nations become independent well father
1471
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,999
said he would put up all the money we
1472
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,999
should incorporate we didn't cooperate
1473
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,999
between January and March we had the
1474
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,999
papers in the mill and I filed for
1475
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:53,999
patents I don't know if they're ever
1476
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,999
issued or not or where they went because
1477
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,999
of what happened to only two months
1478
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,999
later in March of 1953 I one of the
1479
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,999
business trips when Jack was out of town
1480
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,999
taking care of business and such I don't
1481
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,999
know whether there's company business or
1482
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:10,999
Navy business he said he had to go to
1483
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:11,999
town on business
1484
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,999
I'm sorry airforce business but he was
1485
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:16,999
out of town and during that time a
1486
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:18,999
period when sitting in the office one
1487
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:19,999
day a team of black ops personnel
1488
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,999
descend on e7 of them the grab me take
1489
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:25,999
me out of the building in front of
1490
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,999
everyone and if we go down to Washington
1491
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,999
DC in from Washington DC when taken to
1492
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,999
McLean Virginia a special joint facility
1493
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:39,999
of both NSA and CIA and as too much to
1494
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,999
my surprise not knowing anything much
1495
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,999
about this sort of thing not expecting
1496
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,999
another return of what we had
1497
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,999
anticipated and gone through in the
1498
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:50,999
Philadelphia Experiment there they had a
1499
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,999
portal inside one of those buildings of
1500
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,999
the facility at McLean Virginia and I
1501
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:56,999
was kicked in it
1502
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,999
and they wound up elsewhere so what else
1503
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,999
was know this one was definitely very
1504
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,999
new we went up as I was told after
1505
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,999
arrival an office entire e11 being
1506
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,999
planet number one in their system and I
1507
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:13,999
was being interrogated by a group of
1508
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,999
near human looking beings about 6 foot
1509
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,999
high they had essentially human form the
1510
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,999
facial features were not exactly human
1511
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,999
they were rough but in any case they
1512
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,999
interrogated me for some four days they
1513
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,999
wanted to know my history what I had
1514
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,999
done where I was doing because I want to
1515
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,999
know what the blazes I was doing there
1516
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,999
and what their interest was well I've
1517
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,999
had the feeling that my life hung in the
1518
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,999
balance and that if I wanted to get out
1519
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,999
of there I better tell them everything
1520
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,999
so I started with the Philadelphia
1521
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:47,999
Herman was going in the Navy the
1522
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,999
Philadelphia Experiment oh yes we know
1523
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,999
about that and well of a time travel Oh
1524
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,999
where'd you go well I went to 21:37 mmm
1525
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,999
okay then I went to the 20th century
1526
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,999
then he got a little more interested I
1527
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,999
told him about what I saw there and so
1528
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,999
forth and they expressed some passing
1529
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:07,999
interest but I said I met a strange
1530
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,999
group there I saw was that so the
1531
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:12,999
WingMakers and I told them all about
1532
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,999
them these guys absolutely went bonkers
1533
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,999
they freaked out
1534
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,999
they said you contacted who and I said a
1535
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,999
group that calls himself the WingMakers
1536
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,999
said you're going back and they did
1537
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,999
something which I learned since rarely
1538
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,999
ever happens I was shipped back to the
1539
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,999
point of origin namely that Naevia that
1540
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:39,999
CIA NSA facility at Fort McLean Virginia
1541
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,999
they were sent back to the Pentagon and
1542
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,999
the next thing I asked was when am I
1543
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,999
going to go back to California nobody
1544
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:47,999
would give me an answer
1545
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,999
and I kicked around the Pentagon for
1546
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,999
months literally from sometime late
1547
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:53,999
March
1548
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,999
that same day almost that I was taken
1549
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,999
out I've several days later because
1550
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:00,999
there was four days passed on office
1551
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,999
Atari which did not correlate directly
1552
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:07,999
with our time frame was close and I had
1553
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,999
nothing to do no job to perform a report
1554
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,999
in daily as I respected to do at a
1555
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:15,999
living quarters could not see the family
1556
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,999
was not allowed to last time I saw them
1557
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,999
was in 1952 when I snuck a visit to the
1558
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,999
family finding out where they were at
1559
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,999
that time four out of California so this
1560
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,999
went on for months and I kept asking
1561
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,999
questions well what am I going to be
1562
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,999
able to go back and do some work I
1563
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,999
wasn't doing any work of any kind nobody
1564
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:39,999
would give me an answer
1565
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,999
I finally went up to the Joint Chiefs of
1566
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,999
Staff and asked them particularly the
1567
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,999
Navy don't know we know what's going on
1568
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,999
can't give you an answer
1569
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,999
go away type of attitude not that of
1570
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,999
rough a statement but that kind of
1571
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,999
attitude like they wished I wasn't
1572
01:09:59,000 --> 01:09:59,999
asking the question
1573
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,999
because you don't get that gruff with
1574
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,999
somebody the rank I had which was then
1575
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,999
captain in the US Navy but they wouldn't
1576
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,999
give me an answer either way they give
1577
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,999
me any bad treatment neither did they
1578
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,999
give me any answers and I stood there
1579
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,999
and I walked around there and worked a
1580
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,999
little bit now and then finally went to
1581
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,999
the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and
1582
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,999
asked him what's going on so forth he
1583
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,999
says frankly says I can't tell you he
1584
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,999
says I don't know I says well I'd like
1585
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:32,999
to get back in on mainstream of the Navy
1586
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,999
I'm a career man I would like to finish
1587
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,999
my term I would like to do what I'm a
1588
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,999
Spectre to do what I'm capable of doing
1589
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,999
and he looked at me almost here fully
1590
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,999
says I'm sorry there's nothing I can do
1591
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,999
and I'll not forget those words quote it
1592
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,999
is out of our hands unquote
1593
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,999
now this is the Joint Chiefs of Staff
1594
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,999
and finally the chairman of the Joint
1595
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,999
Chiefs saying it is out of his hands if
1596
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:00,999
it's out of his hands whose hands
1597
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,999
was it in certainly not the President of
1598
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,999
the United States under military matter
1599
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,999
like this who was probably totally
1600
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,999
unaware of the projects of an ongoing so
1601
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,999
where did it go well it obviously went
1602
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,999
back to where a Justin returned from
1603
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,999
Alpha Centauri before I left
1604
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,999
I should say before I was removed from
1605
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,999
the operation in our little facility on
1606
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,999
the beach a group had started nosing
1607
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:31,999
around like they were interested in
1608
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,999
taking over our operation and that is a
1609
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,999
group called the Cristal D research
1610
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,999
group give a little info on that very
1611
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,999
briefly but I remembered the name
1612
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:43,999
because at that point they were poking
1613
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,999
around after father had also made his
1614
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,999
pitch and asking questions and as a left
1615
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,999
or is about to leave the office entire
1616
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,999
group I happened to ask them oh do you
1617
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,999
anything about a course toldi research
1618
01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:01,999
group oh yeah we run them and that stuck
1619
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:06,999
in my craw for quite a while it provided
1620
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:07,999
some answers
1621
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,999
and an analysis of what did finally
1622
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,999
happen to that company jack really was
1623
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,999
removed in 1954 it was shut down he
1624
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:17,999
tried to keep it going but he could not
1625
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,999
keep it going very well alone and when
1626
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,999
he was removed nobody could who was shut
1627
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,999
down students sat in limbo for years
1628
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,999
eventually he was research corporation
1629
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,999
was formed and they bought the property
1630
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,999
was in malibu in malibu beach area about
1631
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,999
a 1/2 mile east of the beach and it's
1632
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,999
very visibly there today much expanded
1633
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,999
but the original facility was in limbo
1634
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:45,999
for years and nothing happened well in
1635
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,999
the last year I mean the last year of
1636
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,999
the last century 1999 having not
1637
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,999
recalled up to that point of January any
1638
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,999
of this what I just described to you I
1639
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,999
fell across a book in the Barnes & Noble
1640
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,999
bookstore entitled the history of Mach 1
1641
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,999
I was a title on the book was literally
1642
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:07,999
the history of the development of the
1643
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,999
Mach 1 plus aircraft at Edwards then
1644
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,999
Muroc I looked at it as oh I know a
1645
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,999
little bit about this and wonder what
1646
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,999
these people have to say about it so I
1647
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:19,999
open to look through it found some pea
1648
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:24,999
pictures and open the book and they were
1649
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,999
looking at a picture of five of the crew
1650
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,999
members or the associated crew for the
1651
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,999
bell x-1 Chuck Yeager was in the middle
1652
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,999
and on the right end was a man by the
1653
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,999
name of Jack Ridley they didn't know the
1654
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,999
name but when I looked at it I
1655
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,999
recognized Yeager Ridley I recognized as
1656
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,999
I know this guy where is he from
1657
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,999
what's the connection I know I know I've
1658
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:48,999
never forgotten the face no matter how
1659
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,999
much I've been brainwashed and I
1660
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,999
recognized them I knew him from
1661
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,999
somewheres who was that search from
1662
01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,999
January of 1999 and so approximately
1663
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,999
September and then a lot of corollary
1664
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,999
research with let us say internet
1665
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,999
searching brought up some of the most
1666
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,999
interesting answers Jack Riley of course
1667
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,999
as I described was an Air Force he
1668
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,999
became part of that project he was
1669
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,999
thrown out in 1954
1670
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,999
the project collapsed but on the history
1671
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,999
of his life there's a huge gap on the
1672
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,999
internet history of Ridley's life
1673
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,999
between 1948 and 1956 it's blank
1674
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,999
completely in 1956 he formed a company
1675
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,999
of his own entitled Ridley and Oran
1676
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,999
article machines and Coral Gables
1677
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,999
Florida I don't know it was successful
1678
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,999
or not the net report didn't say but in
1679
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,999
1957 he flew to Japan to have a reunion
1680
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,999
the tenth year reunion of the group for
1681
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,999
Mach one projects he crashed his plane
1682
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,999
the public record says that he died in
1683
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,999
that crash was that a big Memorial thing
1684
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,999
for him and that the tower at Edwards
1685
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,999
Air Force Base today is called Jack
1686
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,999
Ridley Tower as a result of that but I
1687
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:04,999
have other information that says he
1688
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,999
didn't die in that crash that he lived
1689
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,999
on he survived the crash and was brought
1690
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:10,999
back to health slowly but eventually
1691
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,999
died about seven years later at Edwards
1692
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,999
and I'm not even sure if that's a true
1693
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,999
report but that was what I was told the
1694
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,999
other informations I guess again
1695
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,999
confidential from very confidential
1696
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,999
sources said that yes he did die on 54
1697
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,999
but then the time travel crews went back
1698
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,999
and pulled him out before he died so
1699
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,999
here we Garrett again into the area of
1700
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,999
not merely timing manipulation but
1701
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,999
altering history pulled him out probably
1702
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:42,999
gave him a brainwashing because they
1703
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,999
have not met him since and put him back
1704
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,999
to work under his own name rumors were
1705
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,999
that he was back up in Marietta Georgia
1706
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,999
at the Martin Marietta which later
1707
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,999
became the a Martin Lockheed company
1708
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,999
that he had been there I could find no
1709
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,999
trace of him going through the entire
1710
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:08,999
shall we say department of personnel all
1711
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:09,999
their records did they find a Jack
1712
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:10,999
Ridley
1713
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,999
no nobody that name here we haven't run
1714
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,999
anybody by that name here and so forth
1715
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:18,999
he may have been there under a pseudonym
1716
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,999
I don't know but I've never found them
1717
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,999
but the facts are that GRC Enterprises
1718
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,999
is alive and well
1719
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,999
it is still in some manner functional it
1720
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,999
has carried as a wholly owned subsidiary
1721
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:46,999
of the Cristalli research group now
1722
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,999
comes the question who is the chris
1723
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,999
tolly research group that was a question
1724
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:53,999
it took a great deal of effort to come
1725
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,999
up with any answers at all - they were
1726
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,999
listed on the internet as chris tolly
1727
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,999
research group offices in principal
1728
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,999
cities office and of acting vatican and
1729
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,999
the sort of thing and also that they
1730
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,999
were building a new facility on Long
1731
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:16,999
Island a headquarters facility more than
1732
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,999
one person was involved in the search
1733
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:19,999
for me and the one of them found out
1734
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,999
that it was quite obvious that the
1735
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,999
headquarters for cristal D was the
1736
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,999
Vatican itself because two and a half
1737
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,999
centuries ago a man by the name of
1738
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,999
Cristal D the Castaldi family was the
1739
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,999
treasurer for the Vatican and that I've
1740
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,999
so proved very very interesting they had
1741
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,999
large sums of money available they
1742
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,999
apparently intervened at a time when
1743
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,999
there is some very original or event
1744
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,999
guide information being made being made
1745
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,999
available research being done such as we
1746
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:50,999
were doing with the ion propulsion
1747
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:56,999
engine and we found some interesting
1748
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,999
material the project which we were on we
1749
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:02,999
were trying to develop was scuttled
1750
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,999
unburied for years in the last few years
1751
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,999
chris tolly research group is now
1752
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:10,999
functioning at the University of Georgia
1753
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,999
Georgia Tech on the Mars colonization
1754
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,999
project this is straight off the
1755
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,999
internet and what this project entails
1756
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,999
is the developing of a elevator system
1757
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,999
from the surface of Mars to an orbiting
1758
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,999
stationary vehicle which has supplies
1759
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,999
onboard transferring personnel
1760
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,999
transferring objects Hardware tools
1761
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,999
whatever and they would use an elevator
1762
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:37,999
I'm quite
1763
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,999
the planned and consisting of a carbon
1764
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,999
filament type structure very strong and
1765
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,999
anion propulsion engine to run the
1766
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:47,999
elevator from the surface back up to the
1767
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,999
top and to control its descent and of
1768
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,999
course Cristal is involved with us so
1769
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:55,999
the project apparently has been
1770
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,999
resurrected I have not yet been able to
1771
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:58,999
begin there sufficiently to find out
1772
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,999
what I can find out if anything but I do
1773
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,999
intend to do so of course there were
1774
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:06,999
other ion propulsion engine projects
1775
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,999
have returned up in the meantime as a
1776
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:10,999
Kaufmann engine there are several others
1777
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,999
I think nASA has gotten into it there
1778
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,999
were rumors that Hughes themselves got
1779
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,999
into it back in the 60s and developed an
1780
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,999
ion propulsion engine for use aboard a
1781
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,999
b-52 perhaps to replace the if
1782
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,999
sufficiently strong or enough propulsion
1783
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,999
to replace the jet engines that way they
1784
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,999
could not do that they found that out
1785
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,999
and one of the limitations of a
1786
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,999
propulsion engine of that type I on
1787
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,999
propulsion he is about 2,000 pounds
1788
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,999
thrust under the theories which were
1789
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,999
then current current and I came up with
1790
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,999
a conclusion at that time that the math
1791
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,999
was incomplete and was not correct
1792
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:50,999
obviously not totally wrong because we
1793
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:52,999
made an engine work but that as you
1794
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,999
increase the power up to a point like
1795
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,999
about two thousand pounds thrust the
1796
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,999
mathematics has an inbuilt error
1797
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,999
function which will not allow you to get
1798
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,999
past about two thousand pounds thrust
1799
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,999
I was already past that and I was ready
1800
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,999
to design an engine for ten thousand
1801
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:10,999
pounds thrust which would have made a
1802
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,999
difference not only in space but on some
1803
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,999
of our military aircraft because the
1804
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,999
b-52 and the earlier versions at least
1805
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,999
ran eight engines with twenty thousand
1806
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,999
pounds thrust each currently I believe
1807
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,999
they run about thirty thousand pounds
1808
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,999
with water injection and a few other
1809
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,999
booster systems for takeoff power b-52
1810
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:32,999
is still being flown with eight engines
1811
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,999
of 30,000 pounds plus that's a lot of
1812
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,999
thrust and of course we have the c-130
1813
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,999
the c5 a as the particular one I mean to
1814
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,999
refer to using much larger jet engine
1815
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,999
today and of course it's a very very
1816
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:45,999
heavy crane
1817
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,999
I don't know if that could ever be
1818
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,999
converted to Haiyan propulsion engine
1819
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:51,999
because it's not intended to go to space
1820
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:56,999
anyway but the project died that may in
1821
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,999
be currently resurrected but I've yet to
1822
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,999
find any kind of information about it I
1823
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,999
did find enough to know that my
1824
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,999
recollection jrc enterprises was quite
1825
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,999
correct it's on the internet anybody can
1826
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,999
find it in a way to look you have to
1827
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,999
look at it for it under chris tolly
1828
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:16,999
research group but it won't give you
1829
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:17,999
much of the history of what years the
1830
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,999
enterprises did if any at all a strange
1831
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,999
thing happens a history of those
1832
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:26,999
developments and those activities which
1833
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,999
the establishment does not want on
1834
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,999
record for the general public as a way
1835
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:38,999
of disappearing on the subject of time
1836
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,999
travel I think a few comments are
1837
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,999
necessary or at least desirable on my
1838
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:44,999
part
1839
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,999
many people cannot accept the idea of
1840
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:49,999
time travel many scientists for that
1841
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,999
matter cannot say it's impossible
1842
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,999
but again we get to that strange schism
1843
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,999
between important expression public
1844
01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:59,999
science and private science by public
1845
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,999
science I mean I which is taught in the
1846
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:02,999
universities and is commonly accepted
1847
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,999
throughout industry in the trade the
1848
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:07,999
private science being that which is
1849
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,999
restricted to only a few to certain
1850
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:11,999
government agencies a certain major
1851
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:12,999
private corporations that helped build
1852
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,999
some of the software in secret and there
1853
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,999
is a large gap or it schism there over
1854
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,999
the city I think an average of 50 years
1855
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,999
in reality in science and technologies
1856
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,999
about 50 years ahead of what is reported
1857
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,999
and taught and the usual school systems
1858
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,999
and even the best school systems with
1859
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,999
the idea that as I have found time
1860
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,999
travel as a reality it actually was
1861
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,999
first accidentally discovered in 1936
1862
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,999
goes back to a Navy expedition evolving
1863
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,999
a brand new USS Kearsarge digging around
1864
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,999
in the South Pacific north of the shores
1865
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,999
as I'm sorry the South Atlantic north of
1866
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:55,999
the shores of Atlanta
1867
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,999
in South America perhaps on the fringe
1868
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,999
of the so called permeate triangle they
1869
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,999
found a large crystalline structure on
1870
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,999
the floor of the ocean sent divers down
1871
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,999
to examine it the next thing they knew
1872
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:13,999
the Eldridge oh sorry
1873
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,999
mr. bad the elders wasn't able to do it
1874
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:17,999
this way
1875
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,999
the Kearsarge disappeared about two
1876
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,999
months later it came back with a very
1877
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,999
strange explanation that is had time
1878
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,999
traveled into the future and those
1879
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,999
people in the future realized what had
1880
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,999
happened knew about the Atlantean
1881
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:36,999
installations and showed them how to
1882
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:37,999
calibrate their system because these
1883
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,999
crystals were activated by a combination
1884
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:44,999
of electronic or actually RF and
1885
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,999
magnetic energies of a certain
1886
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,999
combination certain frequencies and so
1887
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,999
forth there were key that turned this
1888
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:53,999
thing on and they knew that the
1889
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,999
Atlanteans have built these ages ago
1890
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:57,999
when Atlantis was an empire that was
1891
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,999
traveling all over the world moving
1892
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,999
heavy hardware everywhere and they used
1893
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,999
them for transport of large and very
1894
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,999
heavy car goes from point A to point B
1895
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,999
almost instantaneously didn't have to
1896
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,999
expend any fuel on it it was a very
1897
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,999
quick and easy and very inexpensive
1898
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,999
transportation for very heavy loads is
1899
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,999
also usable as the corsage found out for
1900
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,999
time travel they were told how they
1901
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:23,999
could calibrate the system and by the
1902
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end of two years of research they
1903
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:27,999
figured out a system to utilize this
1904
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,999
system of crystals which apparently on
1905
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,999
the ocean floor all over the US I'm
1906
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,999
sorry all over the world around the u.s.
1907
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,999
and around any other ocean on occasion
1908
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,999
ocean surrounded or ocean adjacent
1909
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,999
nation so they found out that they could
1910
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,999
use this system for time travel I don't
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01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:48,999
know if they ever attempted to use it
1912
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:50,999
for just plain point-to-point travel
1913
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,999
then I'm not aware of it the stories I
1914
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:55,999
ran into on the information I had which
1915
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:56,999
partly came out of the Los Alamos
1916
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,999
laboratories black vault as did so much
1917
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,999
other things as they found out how to
1918
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,999
calibrate it they were able to use the
1919
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Kearsarge and later on a number of other
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01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:08,999
ships
1921
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:09,999
some of the outfitted with the
1922
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,999
appropriate equipment for time travel
1923
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,999
into the future and this allegedly
1924
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,999
according to my information became
1925
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,999
essential to the winning of World War
1926
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,999
two against Nazi Germany we had to pull
1927
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:25,999
some hardware out of the future modify a
1928
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few things and even if you look at the
1929
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,999
end of the war when we dropped a
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01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,999
plutonium bomb as well as a standard
1931
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,999
uranium gun barrel type bomb on Japan
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01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,999
so when Hiroshi was on the uranium gun
1933
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,999
barrel bomb and the one on Nagasaki by
1934
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,999
public statement wasn't a plutonium bomb
1935
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,999
one has to ask some very serious
1936
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,999
questions since in the record of the
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01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,999
development of the atomic bomb these
1938
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,999
tests at Trinity flats was stated and
1939
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,999
their manuals and they declare that
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01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,999
information to be a plutonium bomb and
1941
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:00,999
that it took all of the production of
1942
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,999
plutonium out of Hanford engineering
1943
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:04,999
works for over a year to produce enough
1944
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:06,999
plutonium a bomb grade that they could
1945
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,999
use to test a bomb they were so
1946
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:11,999
concerned about whether it would work or
1947
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:13,999
not because they implied previous
1948
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,999
failures which was true they put a steel
1949
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,999
a very heavy steel shell around the bomb
1950
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:21,999
in case it fails that they wouldn't lose
1951
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,999
the plutonium they can salvage it of
1952
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:25,999
course it has happened that that
1953
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,999
particular device exploded quite well
1954
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:30,999
left a nice glassy plating on the
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01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,999
fertile desert floor and was seen for
1956
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,999
many many miles that took all of the
1957
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,999
plutonium that we had produced up to
1958
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,999
that time how did we within one month
1959
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,999
get enough plutonium to build a bomb and
1960
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,999
drop it on Nagasaki that has never been
1961
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,999
answered and I think the answer lies in
1962
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:52,999
the fact that we had time-travel
1963
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,999
capability I took some of the plutonium
1964
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,999
production out of the future were in the
1965
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,999
80s and 90s and seventies even we were
1966
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,999
able to produce hidden rather large
1967
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,999
amounts relatively speaking the Russians
1968
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:06,999
over 40 years and one of the secret
1969
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:08,999
cities have built up a stock of 40 tons
1970
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:10,999
of bomb-grade plutonium they don't know
1971
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,999
what to do with and they're still
1972
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,999
producing it so it's not that difficult
1973
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:16,999
to produce once you have the curve of
1974
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,999
the proper facilities other than that
1975
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:21,999
one specific instance
1976
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,999
I'm told there were other instances of
1977
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,999
time travel being used to produce
1978
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:29,999
Hardware in the future that is our era
1979
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,999
let us say the 80s to be used during the
1980
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,999
period of World War two the bottom line
1981
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,999
was we militarily defeated Hitler and
1982
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,999
the Axis powers and Japan and the world
1983
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,999
settled back to an uneasy peace this is
1984
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:51,999
a shall we say a small inference a small
1985
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,999
indicator of manipulating history in
1986
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,999
this case ongoing history to make it
1987
01:27:59,000 --> 01:27:59,999
come out the way we wanted it to come
1988
01:28:00,000 --> 01:27:59,999
out
1989
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,999
assuming all my data is correct what
1990
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,999
about modifying history in the past to
1991
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,999
change the outcome and what is now that
1992
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,999
our time was of course the future of
1993
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,999
let's say the period of the Civil War
1994
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,999
what about doing something like that
1995
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,999
could it be done and if it was what
1996
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:22,999
could be done it was done would we even
1997
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,999
know about it lands is the last question
1998
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,999
is no we would not know about it because
1999
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:30,999
if you rewrote history by changing
2000
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,999
certain events in history and the whole
2001
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,999
time field alters that portions of
2002
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,999
history after the event to correlate
2003
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,999
with what has been changed so that as a
2004
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,999
unified connected and cohesive whole so
2005
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,999
to speak and if you keep modifying
2006
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:49,999
history here there and everywhere is
2007
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,999
eventually got in a severe trouble we're
2008
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:54,999
in the time field is at risk of collapse
2009
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,999
I think my own personal opinion on
2010
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,999
stating I think this happened in 94 95
2011
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,999
period because I was seeing evidence
2012
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:05,999
that time is getting very unstable and
2013
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:06,999
there were some reports of some very
2014
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,999
strange effects than at atomic clocks
2015
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,999
which normally are accurate to one part
2016
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,999
and 10 to the 23rd or something of that
2017
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:16,999
order on the newest ones one time since
2018
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,999
14th or 15th on the older ones was
2019
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:21,999
suddenly changing time by the matter of
2020
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,999
minutes in a matter of two weeks
2021
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,999
complete and total instability if you
2022
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:28,999
will in terms of the type of clock it
2023
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:33,999
was these reports persisted and I cannot
2024
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:34,999
say they're not true and I cannot
2025
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:35,999
say the odd through because I don't have
2026
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,999
any direct inputs to those two
2027
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:39,999
government circles we're in that
2028
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:40,999
information would be available but
2029
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,999
information as a funny way of surfacing
2030
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,999
in a funny way of getting around through
2031
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,999
certain connected links of information
2032
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,999
and information specialists that was
2033
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,999
when I definitely heard now in terms of
2034
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,999
re-engineering history on a major basis
2035
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:08,999
let us look at the Civil War that is our
2036
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:13,999
American Civil War 1861-1865 history
2037
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,999
books today record of course has
2038
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:18,999
everyone can read the North won the war
2039
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:20,999
it was a devastating war without
2040
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,999
question we lost more troops in that war
2041
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,999
dead than all of the wars combined
2042
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,999
including World War one on World War two
2043
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,999
over 550,000 dead someone I think 1.2 to
2044
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,999
1.5 million injured I'm not sure those
2045
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,999
figures are even accurate because they
2046
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:37,999
weren't keeping accurate figures at that
2047
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:43,999
point history records we the North won
2048
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,999
the war against the South the southern
2049
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:49,999
states of course seceded they had every
2050
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:51,999
legal right to do so the war was not
2051
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,999
over slavery was over economic issues
2052
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:55,999
and of course that is fairly well known
2053
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,999
that does have dung into it but no it is
2054
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,999
not well known is the fact that
2055
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,999
something strange happened about 1863
2056
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,999
the South was winning war hands-down up
2057
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,999
until 1863 every battle they engaged the
2058
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,999
north and they won as the north noted
2059
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,999
and the historians have noted the
2060
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,999
generalship was superb in the south with
2061
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,999
half the hardware in terms of guns and
2062
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,999
other military hardware that the North
2063
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:25,999
had the South was able to beat the pants
2064
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,999
off of them then in 1863 changed
2065
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,999
suddenly I think was the Battle of
2066
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:33,999
Antietam that gene turned around the
2067
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:35,999
north started winning and of course they
2068
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,999
beat more and more southern troops
2069
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,999
southern generals were changed and
2070
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,999
there's a general retreat into the south
2071
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:43,999
and of course and finally Sherman had
2072
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:45,999
his march to the sea in which they
2073
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:45,999
burned Atlanta
2074
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:50,999
and the South was defeated according to
2075
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,999
the history books as we read today the
2076
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,999
rest is history I don't need to go into
2077
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,999
it suppose that were not what really
2078
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:00,999
happens in the first place how would we
2079
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,999
possibly know it how could we know it
2080
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:05,999
because if there was a change made and
2081
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:06,999
who won the war
2082
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:09,999
then everything following on in the time
2083
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:11,999
field would be changed except perhaps
2084
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,999
off planet or except perhaps in one
2085
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:16,999
other item one other area which perhaps
2086
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:18,999
you might not give too much credence to
2087
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,999
but is worth investigating what about
2088
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:23,999
people who lived through the civil war
2089
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:28,999
died let's say 1880 1890 and reborn and
2090
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,999
living today what would they remember if
2091
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:33,999
you could probe their subconscious
2092
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,999
memories the memories from past lives
2093
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,999
and what would they say about who won
2094
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,999
the Civil War I've heard a number of
2095
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:44,999
accounts and I have one very good friend
2096
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:49,999
in Arizona a lady friend who has told me
2097
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,999
in all of her psychic encounters and all
2098
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:54,999
of our memories that she has been able
2099
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:56,999
to pull out a past life she remembers
2100
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:58,999
living through the Civil War era and
2101
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:00,999
when she died I was our memory that the
2102
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,999
South had won the Civil War and at the
2103
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:05,999
capitol of the United States have been
2104
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:07,999
moved to Richmond Virginia and that
2105
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:09,999
there was literally a line of
2106
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:10,999
demarcation between the north and the
2107
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,999
south there was never totally unified
2108
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,999
after that of course that would be a
2109
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:17,999
disaster for history as we know it today
2110
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,999
if that had happened because who knows
2111
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,999
what the US would ever become a world
2112
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:26,999
power as it is now but that is her
2113
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,999
memory and I also have some friends who
2114
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,999
insist that they have taken part in time
2115
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,999
engineering projects re-engineering
2116
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:37,999
history that is going back into the past
2117
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,999
and doing things which were perhaps in
2118
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:42,999
most cases minor modifications I
2119
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,999
wouldn't cause a great deal of impact on
2120
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:46,999
our current civilization maybe very
2121
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:48,999
little but where Corrections of some
2122
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:50,999
kind or other one of these friends
2123
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,999
insisted he was one of many teams sent
2124
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,999
back from what time period I've yet to
2125
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:58,999
find out I've been able to nail it down
2126
01:33:59,000 --> 01:33:59,999
and I'm
2127
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:01,999
to talk of them not much there are sent
2128
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,999
back several teams male and female into
2129
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:05,999
the year of about nineteen sixty two
2130
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,999
sixty 1862 1863 of the Civil War and
2131
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,999
filtrate the south and become part of
2132
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,999
the General Staff the of the southern
2133
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:20,999
armies in the southern generalship well
2134
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:21,999
they're on General Lee staff directly
2135
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:23,999
and I don't know but they were well
2136
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,999
unfilter ated and then their function
2137
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,999
became not so obvious to the south but
2138
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:30,999
obvious in terms of results they gave
2139
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:31,999
this information to the southern
2140
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:35,999
military leaders as to the contents of
2141
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:37,999
the northern troops armaments etc etc
2142
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,999
based on historical information they
2143
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:41,999
have been given from the future if you
2144
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,999
will and then the south started with
2145
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,999
losing battles one after the other and
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finally they won they no longer won the
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war they had lost the war because of it
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the history is reengineered our soto so
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told mesa this one friend who was part
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of one of the teams I don't find that
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impossible my own commentary on that is
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it's very possible because Lincoln as
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president was faced with a terrible
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quandary and I certainly would not want
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to have been in his position he was
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quite a humanitarian he wanted to in
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slavery and of course slavery in the
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South actually was ending any case the
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war was not fought over slavery but
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economic conditions the assault that
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already freed a lot of slaves and many
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of the former slaves black men had
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become plantation owners and were hiring
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if you will black slaves slavery had
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been cut off by the English government
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at 1825 was no longer legal to ship
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slaves on any English ship anyways in
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the entire realm of England's which
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included the colonies or what were
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formerly the colonies in the United
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States it was outlawed the only ones
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left who were really engaging in slave
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trade at that time were the New England
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business men now that sounds like a
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strange comment but that is historically
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correct to the best of my knowledge and
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they were engaging in keeping us going
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because there was an extremely lookit
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business a lot of money was made on it
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01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:14,999
but nevertheless there was a failing
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institution before the war started the
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South was disengaging from slavery the
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North or long since had and practical
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aspects but the war of course was still
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fought and of course one of the other
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one the history records now the North
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won it will leave it at that because it
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has made the United States a very strong
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world power and I certainly would not
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wanted to have made some of the choices
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which Lincoln did instituted the first
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draft he became the first president in
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history to have instituted the function
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of the commander in chief and then
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declare a national emergency and start
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01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:56,999
issuing executive orders he was the
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first president in our history to do
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this every president since then has they
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don't want to let go of that little
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piece of power which says he can write
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01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:05,999
an order which overrides Congress in the
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01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:08,999
Senate and he instituted the tax laws
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01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,999
the first ones in the country of course
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01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:15,999
that resulted major riots were repealed
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01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:17,999
but a lot has changed in our history and
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a lot has changed behind the scenes
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01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:20,999
historically that we are not aware of
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01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,999
and this business of tree engineering
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history through manipulating of time may
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01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:29,999
not be functional today because the
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01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:31,999
problems induced by doing this to an
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01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,999
excessive amount but definitely has been
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01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,999
done and has continued up to nearly the
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01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,999
present time whether this will happen in
2215
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:41,999
the future or not I don't know
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01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,999
time travel still is functional in spite
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01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:46,999
of some people saying it is not and some
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01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:48,999
others saying it is totally impossible I
2219
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:50,999
know the locations of some of the time
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01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:52,999
operational equipment time tunnels if
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01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,999
you will but I'm not about to reveal
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01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:57,999
them I do have some respect for national
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01:37:58,000 --> 01:37:59,999
security in spite of what some people
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say but I think my comments are quite
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01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:05,999
sufficient time travel from everything
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01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:07,999
I've seen and having participated in it
2227
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:09,999
myself including some of the troops in
2228
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,999
the past I know it works I know it's
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01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,999
real that's something which perhaps the
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01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:18,999
first time you do it is rather
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01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:20,999
overwhelming to understand what you are
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01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:22,999
doing
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01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,999
what has being done it is not something
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01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:26,999
which the average person will ever
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01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:27,999
experience
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01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,999
whatever believed and those who are the
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participants are very carefully chosen
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