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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,999 hello again this is a special recording 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,999 what we call an archives recording and 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,999 the proceedings part of this film was 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,999 showing some of downtown Denver and the 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,999 deed of there was 18th of April today as 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,999 a 20th of April year 2000 Denver is 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,999 still there in the stool traffic and 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,999 it's still smog but since it's an 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,999 archives report with what we did put in 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,999 a little piece about Denver and showing 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:33,999 what Denver's like on construction of a 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:39,999 new stadium etc in the archived report 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,999 which this is I wish to add a few things 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,999 which I would not put in the general 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,999 history of myself and the Philadelphia 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,999 Experiment this material will not be 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,999 available to everyone in fact very few 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,999 people and going back into the problems 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,999 of the Philadelphia Experiment when 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,999 Duncan and I jumped overboard off the 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,999 ship the Eldridge in hyperspace we of 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,999 course didn't know what was happening 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,999 and where we were going or if we were 24 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,999 going anywheres except of course into 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,999 the water we expected to hit the water 26 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,999 in the bay and swim ashore but no water 27 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,999 we never hit it we kept falling and 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,999 falling for quite a period of time then 29 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,999 it seemed to level out boom excuse me 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,999 seemed to level out and we were shall I 31 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:30,999 say flying along that's not the right 32 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,999 term but it seemed like we were through 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,999 cloud banks another strange phenomena 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,999 and this went on for a period of time 35 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,999 and then we blanked out when we woke up 36 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,999 as we found out in a hospital talking to 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,999 one bad night and another in the same 38 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,999 room I'm wondering what has happened 39 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,999 where were we and what was going on well 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,999 in a hospital lieutenant Norley came in 41 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,999 and do the usual measurements of the 42 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,999 usual vital signs and so forth I said 43 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,999 would you like to watch TV said yes 44 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,999 return on the TV at this point we didn't 45 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:11,999 know that anything was wrong or in 46 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,999 he was any different than the area era 47 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,999 we had come from except of course in 48 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,999 1943 we didn't have large screen color 49 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,999 TV this happened to be a wall-mounted 50 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,999 unit smaller size but color which was 51 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,999 the first discrepancy we watched the TV 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:30,999 we were actually in that hospital for 53 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,999 four weeks recovering we finally asked 54 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,999 what we were doing here they wouldn't 55 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,999 tell us how we got there but they said 56 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,999 you have suffered severe radiation burns 57 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,999 it's a radiation from what and they sort 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:43,999 of demurred on giving us a straight 59 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,999 answer as they said no it's not nuclear 60 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,999 radiation as it turns out I would learn 61 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,999 much later of course there was radiation 62 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,999 that you will possibly run into in deep 63 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,999 space and a certain other conditions 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,999 which his course is not nuclear but 65 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:01,999 nevertheless it's an ionizing form of 66 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,999 radiation that can be damaging to the 67 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,999 body so we took about four weeks to 68 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,999 recover and in that process on that time 69 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,999 we watched a lot of television at that 70 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,999 point I would say after a week of 71 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,999 watching TV I started asking a lot of 72 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,999 questions because it was quite obvious 73 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,999 that things were not normal normal in 74 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,999 the sense of how we knew them in 1943 75 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,999 that the indications were there were 76 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,999 very few cities around the country 77 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:31,999 anymore 78 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,999 there was a real travel there was some 79 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,999 car travel but what was most important 80 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,999 is that we no longer any national 81 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,999 boundaries there were boundaries for 82 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,999 reference like what states do we have in 83 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,999 the u.s. well boundaries referenced 84 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,999 we're in accordance with the American 85 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,999 map as we saw it but we are told very 86 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,999 bluntly that no longer is there a 87 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,999 government whatever is left of it is 88 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:06,999 under military control 89 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,999 whoo there were a number of references 90 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,999 on television to the changed coastlines 91 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,999 it struck us that they were changed I 92 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,999 didn't say that we started asking 93 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:23,999 questions well can you give us some maps 94 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,999 of the United States 95 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,999 maybe United States and Canada oh sure 96 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,999 no problem they got em for us we were 97 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,999 rather dismayed to find that a good 98 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,999 chunk of California was discipline had 99 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,999 disappeared was no longer above water 100 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,999 was obviously under water the Pacific 101 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,999 Ocean was now encroaching on dry land 102 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,999 largely paralleling the San Andreas 103 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,999 Fault Line in San Francisco a lot of San 104 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,999 Francisco was still there was not all 105 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,999 intact the principal part that survived 106 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,999 was on the rocky promontory which is in 107 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,999 the downtown area south of that there 108 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,999 was a lot of damage but apparently there 109 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:05,999 damaged from the earthquakes and 110 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,999 whatever else had hit started had a 111 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,999 point someplace between San Francisco 112 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,999 and San Jose as the CNN trees fall comes 113 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,999 in at that point San Jose as I remember 114 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,999 was missing and as you went further 115 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,999 south there was sort of a ragged laws of 116 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,999 land when it got down to Los Angeles the 117 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,999 shall we say the cliff area of sano-sama 118 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,999 not San Mateo the cliff area of the 119 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,999 whole section on the beach from Malibu 120 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,999 on south was missing no cliffs no 121 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,999 apartment houses no houses the beaches 122 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,999 were further inland at least from what 123 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,999 we thought they were originally downtown 124 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,999 Los Angeles was essentially intact it 125 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,999 was built on a rocky area in these 126 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,999 residential sections other than the high 127 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:01,999 hills of Altadena 128 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,999 and some of the higher sections of 129 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,999 Beverly Hills were gone they were just 130 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,999 totally destroyed and there was not that 131 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:12,999 much left of Atlanta Angeles as a 132 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,999 functioning City long beach I don't 133 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,999 recall whether it was still there or not 134 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:19,999 but I do recall 135 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,999 San Diego was totally gone because the 136 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,999 loss of land began just slightly south 137 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,999 of Los Angeles and went on inland and a 138 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,999 rather ragged line so that the I began 139 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,999 approached the San Andreas Fault which 140 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,999 of course runs through the Salton Sea in 141 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,999 the southern part of California on down 142 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,999 in New Mexico at that point roughly from 143 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,999 Laguna Beach or someplace a little north 144 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,999 of it on down to the Salton Sea was all 145 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,999 gone it was under water the land has 146 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,999 gone then there were severe changes and 147 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,999 shall we say in that area nothing is 148 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,999 severe as the Gordon Michael scallion 149 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,999 map no his nearest severe because he 150 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,999 showed most of California go on most of 151 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,999 arizona-grown ports north greater parts 152 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,999 of Nevada gone none of that but up north 153 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,999 there was severe damages in the Bay Area 154 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,999 of Seattle and Portland I don't recall 155 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,999 specifically where that was still there 156 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:22,999 or not 157 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,999 Chicago was gone the Great Lakes were 158 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,999 now one Lake speaking of course of the 159 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,999 year which we finally found out what 160 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,999 year we were in was 21 37 ad and the 161 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:36,999 Mississippi had undergone drastic 162 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,999 changes it had become a very wide 163 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,999 waterway an inland estuary at the 164 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,999 narrowest point about 30 miles wide and 165 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,999 she went on South to New Orleans the 166 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,999 whole sand strip and the whole sand spit 167 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,999 we're in New Orleans once was was brown 168 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,999 as was the city of New Orleans and then 169 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,999 we found out that there was a swath of 170 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,999 land about 50 miles wide across the 171 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,999 entire Gulf area the entire Gulf Coast 172 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,999 which was underwater 173 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,999 well this meant all of the coastal 174 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,999 cities were gone not included Houston 175 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,999 and included El Paso Texas Corpus 176 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,999 Christi Texas they were all underwater 177 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,999 I'm gone most of the Texas north of that 178 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,999 50 mile swath was still there Dallas as 179 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,999 I recall was still intact but the 180 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,999 Mississippi problem was enormous because 181 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,999 when it got down to the Gulf 182 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,999 thirty miles white anymore is over 100 183 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,999 and there was an attempt made if I'm 184 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,999 apparently successful to build a bridge 185 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,999 across the Narrows point of the new 186 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,999 Mississippi which was 30 miles wide and 187 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,999 they did build what became the world's 188 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:45,999 largest and longest suspension bridge 189 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,999 across that point on the Mississippi 190 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,999 that was still crossable I asked other 191 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,999 questions like what about the East Coast 192 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,999 well the East Coast had some very 193 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,999 strange changes there was a large chunk 194 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,999 of land missing from Georgia Georgia was 195 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,999 particularly hit in that cities of 196 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,999 Savannah were gone the coastal cities 197 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,999 were gone Atlanta was still there but 3 198 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:14,999 miles approximately from the oceanfront 199 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,999 and the cut out of land was rather 200 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,999 jagged pointing towards Atlanta but then 201 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,999 went back towards the coast and as you 202 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,999 go on up the coast towards New York the 203 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,999 losses were very strange and there was 204 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:28,999 sporadic and they were not on a 205 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,999 continuous thing it was a jagged outline 206 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,999 Baltimore and Washington were gone New 207 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,999 York City was still there what was left 208 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,999 of it which was mostly the section above 209 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,999 the battery on Manhattan Island because 210 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,999 it's solid rock it remained and the 211 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,999 areas like Brooklyn Queens were 212 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,999 essentially gone replaced by water most 213 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,999 of Long Island was intact New England 214 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,999 there's some missing inland areas and as 215 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,999 I said Chicago was gone 216 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,999 upstate New York had a very strange 217 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,999 problem the st. Lawrence River became an 218 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,999 inland sea wave and developed a lake 219 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,999 which covered Albany New York 220 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,999 a large saltwater lake so a lot of 221 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,999 streets changes in the United States 222 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,999 Canada I did not pay any particular 223 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,999 attention to it didn't appear to have 224 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,999 changed that much Europe had drastic 225 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,999 changes in Europe England was gone most 226 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,999 but not all of Ireland was gone the 227 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,999 highlands of Scotland was still so alive 228 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,999 and well apparently and in terms of the 229 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,999 internal country 230 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,999 and parts of Europe as we know it now 231 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,999 quite a bit of it was underwater even 232 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,999 parts of Switzerland were underwater the 233 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,999 mountains had dropped that for what will 234 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,999 have gone on in Europe we don't really 235 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,999 know and the guys asked the questions of 236 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:00,999 couldn't really answer them correctly 237 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,999 anyway because they were not that 238 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,999 familiar with it demand I principally 239 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,999 talk with was the hospital technician 240 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,999 quite intelligent and during us stay 241 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:10,999 there 242 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,999 he was the only black man we saw he was 243 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:14,999 a black medical technician very 244 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,999 competent and educated was the only 245 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,999 black person we saw on our entire stage 246 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,999 in year 21 37 there was still rail 247 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,999 travel and travel I didn't ask about 248 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,999 airlines travel not AB - what's the 249 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,999 world population these days and they 250 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,999 said Oh slightly over 300 million and I 251 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,999 looked at mrs. world population he said 252 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,999 yes world population so the u.s. is now 253 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,999 now down around 50 million or less there 254 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,999 is no government left acting in the face 255 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,999 of the earth intact they had all 256 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,999 crumbled sometime between the period of 257 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:57,999 2000 and as he told me 2025 martial law 258 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,999 was set in almost all these areas there 259 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,999 was a combination of end historically 260 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,999 speaking having a nuclear war World War 261 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,999 3 those considered a rather brief World 262 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,999 War 3 but a lot of destruction and then 263 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,999 those natural earth changes which were 264 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,999 more destructive than the war between 265 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,999 all of those there was a great loss of 266 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,999 life a loss of government a loss of 267 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:21,999 transportation and of course without you 268 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,999 have starvation and other problems and 269 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,999 it went continually downhill from about 270 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,999 2003 as my guess on he didn't specify a 271 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,999 date who said the records were hazy but 272 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,999 it looked like 2004 approximately when 273 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,999 things came apart and at that point he 274 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,999 said thing what was left to the 275 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:45,999 government on the military control was 276 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,999 attempting to rebuild the nation and 277 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,999 this was in 21 37 he said it was well 278 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,999 along to being rebuilt but it was far 279 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:52,999 from being 280 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,999 completely rebuilt and the destruction 281 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,999 being replaced and over so that was 282 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,999 rather a strange interlude and rather a 283 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,999 shock why we went up there I have no 284 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,999 idea the certainly was not our idea and 285 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,999 who shall we say engineered this little 286 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,999 trip into the year 21 37 is still 287 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,999 unknown to me I have some ideas as new 288 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,999 it might be but it gets into a little 289 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,999 later part of the dissertation and 290 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,999 discussion of what happened I asked 291 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:29,999 about nine levels of Science and 292 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,999 Technology oh yes he said nothing was 293 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:33,999 lost during this whole period of the 294 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,999 earth destruction of the earth upheavals 295 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,999 in the war is the reason we have 296 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,999 computers we have TV we have all kinds 297 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,999 of communications I didn't ask him about 298 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,999 space travel or what was going on in 299 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,999 terms of what was once NASA didn't think 300 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,999 to ask him about that because I was 301 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,999 shall we say preoccupied with the 302 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,999 otherwise very changes and the total 303 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,999 shifting the size of civilization and 304 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:00,999 its structure 305 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,999 I asked about money and banks he says oh 306 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,999 yes there's no money they said the banks 307 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:07,999 are a lot smaller than they were and 308 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,999 they're not as active and watching TV 309 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,999 you know I think about it I didn't see a 310 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,999 single ad about anything so there was 311 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:23,999 some major changes now we stayed there 312 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,999 approximately six weeks I'm saying we 313 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:27,999 don't go to myself 314 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,999 we'd get up out of bed eventually and 315 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,999 move around but before the next phase 316 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,999 began I'll have to say that I thought we 317 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,999 were stuck there perhaps forever without 318 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,999 the slightest idea of how we got there 319 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:42,999 in the first place and they couldn't 320 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,999 explain it either we suddenly appeared 321 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,999 someplace where they picked us up on 322 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,999 conscious returned in to an ambulance 323 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,999 crew and they took us to a hospital and 324 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:53,999 we were in uniform so they knew we were 325 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,999 military personnel but the military had 326 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,999 changed drastically in the meantime and 327 00:14:59,000 --> 00:14:59,999 the military of that era had no 328 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,999 particularly interest in us one day 329 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:04,999 wandering around that hospital and 330 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:05,999 hospital grounds 331 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,999 I disappeared from that era and from 332 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,999 2137 and I wound up and I still further 333 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,999 future date by what means who arranged 334 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,999 it who provided the transportation I 335 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,999 don't know who is obviously a form of 336 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,999 time travel the interesting thing about 337 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,999 it was that Duncan was not with me he 338 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,999 remained behind at 21:37 as I found out 339 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,999 later I wound up in the 20th century and 340 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,999 this was a time period at 27:49 to 2751 341 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,999 ad talk about changes in civilization 342 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,999 society and everything else 343 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:47,999 it was drastically changed water so on 344 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,999 21:37 as this is now six hundred years 345 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,999 later the cities were enormous the 346 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,999 cities were beautiful they had ground 347 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,999 base that as much as we have always had 348 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,999 them but they also had something else 349 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,999 floating cities floating cities due to 350 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,999 anti-gravity techniques being perfected 351 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,999 sufficiently that they could floated an 352 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,999 entire city which is perhaps not as 353 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,999 large as any of our current cities I was 354 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,999 round to a very nearly round but it 355 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:21,999 floated on this platform and they could 356 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,999 move the city any place they wanted 357 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,999 remaining floating in the air four or 358 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:26,999 five thousand feet above the ground 359 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,999 perhaps or a little less depending on 360 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,999 what they wanted but the size of the 361 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,999 city was vertical rather than horizontal 362 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,999 2200 storeys high 363 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,999 that's about two and a half miles and I 364 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,999 learned about this and look this night 365 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,999 said to myself because I befriended some 366 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,999 people on the 28th century how do they 367 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,999 support this and strengthen materials of 368 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:55,999 anything we know and I'm sure in this 369 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,999 era is inadequate to withstand the load 370 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,999 of all of those stories above the ground 371 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,999 of the lowest level I say quite true I 372 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,999 said well how do you do it I says well 373 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,999 very simply it's about every 300 floors 374 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,999 we put another anti-gravity platform 375 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,999 which relief relieves the weight of all 376 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,999 of those sections above on the section 377 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,999 below and they do 378 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,999 for every 300 stories or so and you 379 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,999 break it up into 300 story sections 380 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,999 which is not impossible by even today 381 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,999 strength of materials but by as future 382 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,999 to strengthen materials and advances no 383 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,999 problem whatever so we've divided it up 384 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,999 and the weight load was only on one 385 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,999 level and then below it was independent 386 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,999 in terms of load though they were all 387 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,999 well attached and by that means they 388 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,999 suspended the load into a distributed 389 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,999 form which made it very feasible the 390 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,999 cities could move anywhere on the planet 391 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,999 basically the stayed hovering and 392 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,999 floating no decision like a particular 393 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,999 location there were some results there 394 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,999 wasn't that much traffic in moving 395 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,999 cities I can assure you because the 396 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,999 world population and that era in the 397 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,999 20th century is only 500 million and I 398 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,999 was instructed later that that was where 399 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,999 they had held it for centuries there 400 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,999 would be no more than approximately 500 401 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,999 million population some of the features 402 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,999 of this let's let's start from the 403 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:26,999 political standpoint as I learned all of 404 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:27,999 these cities were the ground based 405 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,999 cities which the majority were was added 406 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:32,999 you're manufacturing they have 407 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,999 agriculture and various of the things to 408 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,999 supply the needs of civilization but all 409 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:40,999 of them were the floating our 410 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,999 ground-based were rather interesting in 411 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,999 the governmental form they had 412 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,999 essentially no government there's no 413 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:48,999 government as we know it today 414 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,999 there was no money there's no banks 415 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,999 there's no political jurisdictions and 416 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,999 there was MF resulted I resolved down to 417 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,999 what would be best called a city state 418 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,999 structure where the city is the state 419 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,999 and any other cities of from that one 420 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,999 are independent and operated in their 421 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,999 own independent manner so that was the 422 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,999 major exchange there there was no 423 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:15,999 elected government there's no appointed 424 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,999 government there was no government as we 425 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,999 had never seen it in the past as I found 426 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,999 out each city was run by an intelligent 427 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,999 computer synthetic intelligence 428 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,999 synthetic consciousness a highly 429 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,999 radioactive crystalline structure who 430 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,999 built them I had no idea nobody seemed 431 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,999 to know but they've been there for 432 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,999 hundreds of years and this computer ran 433 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,999 the entire city there were guidelines 434 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,999 set down there were laws law books but 435 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,999 no courts no guidelines set down as to 436 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,999 how you're to behave what your 437 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,999 parameters were within these parameters 438 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,999 anything went anything was not 439 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,999 considered kosher within this realm this 440 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,999 parameter limit would be expressed as a 441 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,999 yellow zone I use on that you don't want 442 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:15,999 to go into and you don't want to become 443 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,999 involved in that type of behavior if you 444 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,999 got out in that area were given an 445 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,999 invite for a reprimand to the computer 446 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,999 which Lewis won in every city running 447 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,999 each city toward that he would literally 448 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,999 be called in France shows a an interview 449 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,999 or an audience with the computer and it 450 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:37,999 would you would be advised that you had 451 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,999 broken the law but it wasn't considered 452 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,999 a felony it was a misdemeanor a 453 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,999 misdemeanor such if you were judged 454 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:46,999 guilty 455 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,999 you were sent off to one of the work 456 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,999 camps for whatever purpose they did in 457 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,999 the war camps I would be much like today 458 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,999 I presume where any kind of labor menial 459 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,999 or otherwise had to be done was done and 460 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:02,999 that was compulsory that was not 461 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,999 voluntary if you were called in because 462 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,999 you read one outside the yellow zone 463 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:09,999 into what is called the red zone which 464 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,999 is basically what you would today call a 465 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,999 felony offense you immediately called in 466 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,999 for an interview 467 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,999 you're examined looked at talked to and 468 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,999 if the computer at that point thought 469 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,999 that you were rehab it able that you 470 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,999 could learn again to be sociable on 471 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,999 within the social bounds of normalcy you 472 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,999 were given one more chance if the 473 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,999 computer decided that you were not 474 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,999 capable of fitting into society 475 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,999 you were terminated right then are there 476 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,999 other other people who didn't feel like 477 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,999 they could fit into the society but had 478 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,999 not yet committed any of the so-called 479 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,999 offenses literally they were allowed to 480 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:57,999 leave or the the word was if you don't 481 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,999 like it here go go there somewheres else 482 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,999 go out in the boonies if you want live 483 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,999 as a hermit we don't care and many did I 484 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,999 do not know what percentage errs told 485 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:08,999 the quite a lot of people had left the 486 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,999 cities and growing out my in the 487 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:10,999 boondocks 488 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,999 what are they form communities or not I 489 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,999 never did find out the technology was so 490 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,999 advanced on that that you had for 491 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,999 transportation within the city put the 492 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,999 cold Axela Tron's consider it very much 493 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,999 like a moving walkway as we have today 494 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,999 except that when you got on it you could 495 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,999 literally jump ahead and move any form 496 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,999 of suspended gravity at a very high rate 497 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:38,999 of speed 498 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,999 along this Beltway and when you got to a 499 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,999 point where you wanted to get off you 500 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,999 just literally jumped off and the kids 501 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,999 love to play with these this sort of toy 502 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,999 they consider it at a toy and it's just 503 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:52,999 so much turn through I was getting in a 504 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,999 wave it do that was great fun these 505 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:57,999 excelled Tron's went across and even in 506 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,999 the sky cities across open spaces and 507 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,999 the interior of the ste structure there 508 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,999 was a fairly large open space eventually 509 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,999 I got my turn to talk with the computer 510 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,999 it was a part of what was called the 511 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,999 Lama systems now why that name was 512 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,999 chosen I don't know but it was a fact 513 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,999 that every one of those computer 514 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,999 installations though independent was 515 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,999 tied together in the network not known 516 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,999 by most of the city dwellers which 517 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,999 included every city on the planet so 518 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,999 that there was a cohesion between the 519 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,999 computers cooperation had generally they 520 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,999 kept track of each other I spent almost 521 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,999 two years in this very large complex I 522 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,999 traveled around a lot one of the other 523 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,999 things was yes the war rails for 524 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,999 railroads but there changed a lot they 525 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:54,999 went 526 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,999 for the purpose of excursion having fun 527 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,999 and go out in one of these excursions 528 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,999 was a big party the rail was much 529 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,999 lighter than our current rail system 530 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,999 perhaps two to two and a half times 531 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,999 wider to accommodate a much larger car 532 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,999 much wider and with that of course they 533 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,999 had rule Italy rolling dining rooms 534 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,999 rolling ballrooms and could have a great 535 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,999 time and great fun literally traveling 536 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:23,999 from one city to the other no other 537 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,999 purpose other than having fun into 538 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,999 taking a trip somewhere as if you 539 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,999 weren't required to work which no one 540 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,999 was required to other than their social 541 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,999 obligation which was well inculcated 542 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,999 into the kids that you had an obligation 543 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,999 to contribute to society to pay for what 544 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,999 you have been using Kant had inherited 545 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,999 for which no money and was involved a 546 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,999 sort of credit system was still 547 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,999 functional but not otherwise next up for 548 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,999 fairly large credit purchases if that is 549 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,999 the right term they didn't really keep 550 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,999 track of very much it was considered 551 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,999 quite free as long as you were able to 552 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,999 make some contributions and I nobody 553 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,999 overloaded the system with demands that 554 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,999 happened very seldom that there was an 555 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,999 overload of demand for goods or services 556 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,999 so as a result of that there was a very 557 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:28,999 the abuse of the system now in this 558 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,999 period of time talking with many people 559 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,999 making friends I had a number of 560 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,999 questions who built this computer system 561 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,999 that was my first and foremost question 562 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,999 who maintains it what happens when it 563 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,999 breaks down very common questions for no 564 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,999 common answer and very much uncommon 565 00:25:54,000 --> 00:26:00,999 answers first question about those 566 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,999 cities who built them who maintains them 567 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,999 who maintains the computers was rather 568 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:07,999 hard to answer 569 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,999 get an answer - no one really knew much 570 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,999 about the history of the construction of 571 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,999 the city or outran other than the 572 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,999 computer and you couldn't request an 573 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,999 interview you could request the GUI and 574 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,999 ask questions if it was busy with 575 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,999 something else okay come on in 576 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,999 but understanding of course that this 577 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,999 was a highly radioactive device there 578 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,999 was a radioactive crystalline structure 579 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,999 you had to wear the equivalent of a LED 580 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,999 suit a radiation suit much like NASA as 581 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,999 today except there was some LED material 582 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,999 added to make sure that you were not 583 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,999 affected by the hard radiation you can 584 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:45,999 go and have an interview and ask a lot 585 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,999 of questions and I did more than once 586 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,999 I've got some answers I would say the 587 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,999 row is satisfactory but I did find out 588 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,999 eventually that a number of interesting 589 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,999 things while there was no longer a 590 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,999 military I'm speaking to the 28th 591 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,999 century in any of the city structures 592 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,999 and any of the data information of this 593 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,999 computer complex but they did 594 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,999 interconnect indeed just like an email 595 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,999 net or another computer complex there 596 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,999 were a lot of people on the line giving 597 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:26,999 information and taking information the 598 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,999 aspect of how these computers 599 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,999 communicated with each other was unknown 600 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,999 but it didn't make the one I talked what 601 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,999 did make a number of interesting 602 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,999 statements over a period of time they 603 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,999 have been around for about 200 250 years 604 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,999 in this format in the system there was 605 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,999 no one to do any maintenance apparently 606 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,999 there was no maintenance such if one of 607 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,999 them broke down was simply replaced but 608 00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,999 I wasn't satisfied with some of these 609 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,999 answers I started looking further didn't 610 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,999 find much for a while then all of a 611 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,999 sudden I got an invite to come visit 612 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,999 with another group a human group which I 613 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,999 did and then I found the answers to all 614 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,999 of my questions all of the questions I 615 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,999 had and mine they were able to answer 616 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,999 number one who built the computer system 617 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,999 they said they did and the project was 618 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,999 started about 2600 AD and was a 619 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,999 basically an experimental system for the 620 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,999 purpose of seeing if they could run an 621 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,999 entire civilization by computer and also 622 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,999 provide full socialization ie everything 623 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,999 is free but also in the educational 624 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,999 system of process inculcate the idea 625 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,999 that people have a moral obligation to 626 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,999 do something for the community because 627 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,999 the community had supported them 628 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,999 therefore they have to help support 629 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,999 others in the community which didn't 630 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,999 work most of the time in a smaller 631 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,999 community it works much better than in a 632 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,999 larger community as you get cities the 633 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,999 will over million population it's very 634 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,999 difficult to get something like this to 635 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,999 work and to be usable on a consistent 636 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,999 basis that was one of the questions I 637 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,999 had nor a lot of others I asked about 638 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,999 the military aspects know where we know 639 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,999 was no more military well how do you 640 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,999 defend yourself in case somebody comes 641 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,999 along that's a lot of a lot of hardware 642 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,999 a lot of missions a lot of a military 643 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,999 clout and wants to take over a city or 644 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,999 the whole planet and how do you prevent 645 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,999 this or do you well the answer was 646 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,999 rather complex but basically basically 647 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,999 it came down the fact that they had 648 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,999 hidden weapon systems in the cities at 649 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,999 every installation was a city but they 650 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,999 had all of these installations all over 651 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,999 and they were well concealed they were 652 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,999 not described to me as exactly what they 653 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,999 were but they said they were capable of 654 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,999 deflecting and defending a city from an 655 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,999 invasion from outer space there's no 656 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,999 data given as to whether or not there 657 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,999 had been any such attempt to take over 658 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:24,999 in the past but at that time we saw 659 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,999 nothing resembling any kind of an attack 660 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,999 any kind of a threat was very peaceful 661 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,999 as perhaps because of that peacefulness 662 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,999 that people were basically so happy 663 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,999 there it was you might say the end 664 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,999 result of a long dream about a pure 665 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,999 socialist state they had it and it 666 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,999 seemed to work there's only one fault 667 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,999 with it that I saw and this is something 668 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,999 which I have discerned since I've been 669 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,999 back after many years you get a C or 670 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,999 group which is purely socialistic no 671 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,999 money how do you keep that group 672 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,999 together how do you keep the society 673 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,999 together I've been that case you're 674 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,999 looking at a situation where is partly 675 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,999 by the will of the people 676 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,999 partly by show say some kind of internal 677 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,999 control and partly because one could say 678 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,999 there's a little choice if you don't 679 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,999 wanna live in city you go out in the 680 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,999 boonies if you don't know how to survive 681 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,999 by yourself you stay in the city 682 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,999 survival skills are not something that 683 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,999 was commonly taught in those days 684 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,999 because all the technical problems a 685 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,999 breakdown of equipment have long since 686 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,999 been solved and the equipment's 687 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,999 generally wrote who are working and 688 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,999 continue to work for about two hundred 689 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:58,999 years without much maintenance the 690 00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,999 maintenance was required was definitely 691 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,999 directed by the intelligence in the 692 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,999 computer systems existed for doing 693 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,999 repairs and maintenance of course if 694 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:09,999 they had manufacturing systems they had 695 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,999 to have maintenance systems to serve as 696 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,999 the manufacturing equipments all of what 697 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,999 was manufactured they don't know there 698 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,999 was definitely a lot of agriculture in 699 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,999 the serf endless on the surface a in the 700 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,999 periphery basically of some of the 701 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,999 surface cities some of the agriculture 702 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,999 went outside the city limits outside the 703 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,999 periphery of the city but not a lot they 704 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,999 seemed to produce more than enough food 705 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,999 for what they needed 706 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,999 which was good there was no problem the 707 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,999 threats of food shortages the idea of a 708 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,999 threat to the survival in a civilized 709 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,999 society had long since faded because the 710 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,999 people was so well cared for 711 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,999 but the herein is also a problem his 712 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,999 people were well cared for by a 713 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,999 socialist system they didn't have to 714 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,999 work to do anything even though they 715 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,999 were expected to work and expect to 716 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,999 contribute to society it was not 717 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:14,999 demanded the things I saw in the society 718 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,999 and civilization were at first unique to 719 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,999 me and I would say with not only without 720 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,999 precedent I had no comparison no basis 721 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,999 from the memories of the 20th century 722 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,999 because of the time of my arrival my 723 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,999 memory of the 20th century was wiped out 724 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,999 all of the comparisons I have done have 725 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,999 come since because at this point I'm 726 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,999 able to compare what I saw at that time 727 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,999 with what I know of course of the 20th 728 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,999 century but it was sort of strange in 729 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,999 that I didn't know really why I was 730 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,999 there 731 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:50,999 I didn't know whether I had any 732 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,999 connection with the Philadelphia 733 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,999 Experiment or anything else in the past 734 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,999 but there I was wandering around the 735 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,999 city as one of the regular inhabitants 736 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,999 occasionally taking trips out of the 737 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,999 city which were a lot of fun and meeting 738 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,999 this group who built the computer system 739 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,999 now as they told me this was an 740 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,999 experimental system a sort of an 741 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:15,999 experiment a social behavior 742 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,999 not necessarily behavior modification 743 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,999 but social behavior to see whether they 744 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,999 could build a city and have it be run by 745 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,999 a computer after setting down certain 746 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,999 parameters of what you do or don't do in 747 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,999 a society in which you have a city or 748 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,999 even a smaller community it was obvious 749 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,999 to them as it was to me that the 750 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,999 experiment was largely working but my 751 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,999 questions 752 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,999 in retrospect meanings from the 753 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,999 viewpoint of now and from what they told 754 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,999 me also yes it is next 755 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,999 but they do not know if it will succeed 756 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,999 because one of the problems which 757 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:56,999 develops when you have pure socialism 758 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,999 like that which is working and that 759 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,999 everything seems to be running smoothly 760 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,999 you have no incentive no one has an 761 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,999 incentive to go out and do something new 762 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:08,999 nobody has an incentive which says you 763 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,999 must try something like this to make a a 764 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,999 better living so to speak you didn't 765 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,999 have to make a living everything was 766 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,999 provided you didn't have to get an 767 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,999 education and this of course but at that 768 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,999 point already a a severe a severe 769 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,999 restriction on original research because 770 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,999 people weren't interested in doing it so 771 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,999 they didn't and eventually the society 772 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,999 appears of it fell apart but certainly 773 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,999 was at its peak point I was they right 774 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,999 around that time 2020 900 AD and 775 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,999 probably was for some time after that 776 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,999 but the group that designed and built 777 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,999 this system built all of the computer 778 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,999 link-ups and occasionally one would go 779 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,999 bad as I was there just before I left 780 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,999 for one I go in sour and it was removed 781 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,999 at a later date I believe but I did 782 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,999 learn the name of this group of people 783 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,999 who are the essentially the designers of 784 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,999 the whole system the computer systems 785 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,999 the city structures the city set up they 786 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,999 call themselves the WingMakers now some 787 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,999 of you may have heard of the WingMakers 788 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,999 group and certainly has turned up on 789 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,999 20th century computers 20th century runs 790 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,999 and a lot of data has been turned out 791 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:27,999 hundreds of pages and some of the 792 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,999 manuals describing the discovery of 793 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,999 their stash in new mexico and about 794 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,999 eight 1974 and which the only thing they 795 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,999 found which was out of place for an 796 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,999 eighth century AD indian burial mound or 797 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,999 indian burial of whatever the item that 798 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,999 was out of control ii at a context was a 799 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,999 compass it resulted in NSA becoming 800 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,999 involved with this descending on the 801 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,999 site sealing it off and looking to see 802 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,999 if possibly whether we're looking at was 803 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,999 actually an alien type of installation a 804 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,999 nail 805 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,999 and crash or whatever they did not ever 806 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,999 find any evidence of aliens the fact 807 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,999 they didn't find enough evidence to 808 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,999 support any thesis so they closed it 809 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,999 down and after an earthquake and about 810 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:27,999 the year 1994 approximately a wall 811 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,999 disappeared due to the earthquake and 812 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,999 they had a tunnel an artificial looking 813 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,999 tunnel she went to a circular staircase 814 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,999 clawed right in the rock which is quite 815 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,999 obviously artificial and 23 rooms off 816 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,999 that staircase in the long tunnel all of 817 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,999 which contained relics of some 818 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,999 civilization was advanced paintings and 819 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,999 in the last on the 23rd room was a laser 820 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,999 disc an actual optical disc much like 821 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,999 what we have today except the coding in 822 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,999 it was such that it could not be decoded 823 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,999 mega long story short it took a year and 824 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,999 a half one of the experts there in 825 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:02,999 languages 826 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,999 20 languages and so ancient Sumerian and 827 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,999 somehow got the clues from the pictures 828 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,999 on the walls 23 rooms 23 pictures or 829 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,999 paintings and all in good shape they 830 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,999 finally cracked the optical discs and 831 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,999 they who had made the disk and left it 832 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,999 there stated very clearly that they had 833 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,999 left this - an 880 approximately 8 834 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:26,999 century 835 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,999 and there was 6 more like it around the 836 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,999 earth seven total the object was for man 837 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,999 to dig knees up when he got to the point 838 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,999 where it technically he could do it and 839 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,999 understand what was there and learned 840 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,999 their concerns about civilization well 841 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,999 one has been found that was in New 842 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,999 Mexico there are six more there were 843 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,999 rumors that a second one has been found 844 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,999 but of course the first one was totally 845 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,999 into the control of NSA National 846 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,999 Security Agency underneath the basic 847 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,999 organization was another one called a 848 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,999 cio advanced contacts intelligence 849 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,999 organization they are the ones who 850 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,999 apparently pull all of the rare and 851 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,999 exotic research involving finds which 852 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,999 might look like aliens but 853 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,999 in this case not to be it was a 854 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,999 time-travel operation and that is the 855 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,999 group which is set aside to do it and as 856 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,999 a special group within a Gao known as 857 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,999 the WingMakers group which was working 858 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,999 on this project and keeping it very very 859 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,999 secret they identified the group there 860 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,999 was some having come from the 20th 861 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,999 century originating in the 28th century 862 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,999 they called themselves the WingMakers 863 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,999 which is what I remember and they were 864 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,999 interactive with this time period also 865 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,999 that is the twentieth century into the 866 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,999 21st century they did not give me any 867 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,999 indication at the time when I was into a 868 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,999 century that they were interactive with 869 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,999 the 20th century but I got the distinct 870 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,999 impression that I had not seen the last 871 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,999 one from the various things they said I 872 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,999 have not seen them since I might add not 873 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,999 in any physical sense unless it was by 874 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,999 accident because there was no 875 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,999 communication and it might have been an 876 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:14,999 instance where I saw some of their 877 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,999 people three of them in a men's health 878 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,999 club on one Sunday afternoon in Atlanta 879 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,999 about two years ago no communication 880 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:23,999 with anyone not even communicating 881 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,999 between themselves the group was 882 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,999 telepathic and whether it was them or 883 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,999 not I don't know but I have a suspicion 884 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,999 they were too genetically perfect to 885 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:33,999 have been at this time of this era so 886 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,999 they could have been but since then the 887 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,999 indications have been via the internet 888 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,999 and that information which was dropped 889 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,999 on the net to interviews out of five 890 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,999 that had been given by dr. Anderson a 891 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,999 pseudonym but one of the senior workers 892 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,999 with the language capability that 893 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,999 protract the optical disk found an 894 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,999 outside person to take some interviews 895 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,999 five and all and translate them into a 896 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,999 material which would be put on the 897 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,999 internet he wanted the material out well 898 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,999 two got out and some other material and 899 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,999 that was the last ever seen a heard of 900 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,999 either and or dr. Anderson there's no 901 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,999 answer at this point as to whether or 902 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,999 not those two people are still alive or 903 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:21,999 dead what's happened to them and the 904 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:22,999 other three interviews have never 905 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,999 appeared on the Internet 906 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,999 there's enough that has appeared to make 907 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,999 a very substantial story and a very 908 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,999 substantial indications that these guys 909 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,999 were not flakes their section on 910 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,999 philosophy alone is enough to really 911 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,999 stir one and the pictures are very very 912 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,999 strange according to those who found 913 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,999 them on the walls they were still in 914 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,999 very good condition repairs this is from 915 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,999 the 8th century to the 20th century 916 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,999 which is a twelve hundred years and 917 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,999 there's been I was very little 918 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,999 deterioration or for that matter there's 919 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,999 very little dust in the rooms but they 920 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,999 found some means to protect them further 921 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,999 I mean the CIA does have some rather 922 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,999 advanced technologies available to them 923 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,999 and NSA and they made some further 924 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,999 attempt to preserve the paintings what 925 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,999 they did I don't know but what is 926 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:17,999 interesting is that the other stashes 927 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,999 have yet to turn up and they insisted 928 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,999 from this one optical discs that were 929 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,999 six more when the time was right they'd 930 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,999 all be found they were very concerned 931 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:27,999 about the survival of humanity 932 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,999 throughout this very critical period of 933 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,999 history meaning a twentieth century into 934 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,999 the 21st century now in retrospect 935 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,999 looking back at them and the things they 936 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,999 said and what I now remember they were 937 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,999 not convinced in my view that the 938 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,999 socialist experiment was a success it 939 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,999 was a success to revert very certain 940 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,999 degree in terms of the local time period 941 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,999 in the local era and perhaps in terms of 942 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,999 what problems had developed prior to 943 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,999 their starting this experiment ie the 944 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,999 collapses or near collapse of 945 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,999 civilization and trying to rebuild in 946 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,999 the period after 21:37 22nd century up 947 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,999 through the 26th I had no indication of 948 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,999 the history in that period as to what 949 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,999 transpired nothing was discussed with me 950 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,999 I got the impression that it was not 951 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,999 exactly in very good shape the may have 952 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,999 been of the problems that developed in 953 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,999 the interim but by that time of the 26th 954 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,999 century they got a handle on synthetic 955 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,999 intelligence they decided to go ahead 956 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,999 and rebuild civilization using what they 957 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,999 called the llama system the system of 958 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,999 intelligence 959 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,999 created in a crystalline form 960 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,999 consciously aware and having certain 961 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,999 other abilities which would normally be 962 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,999 classed as metaphysical these computers 963 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,999 were able to do things which perhaps 964 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,999 some of our best gurus would have 965 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,999 trouble doing manipulation of 966 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,999 matter manipulation of time by these 967 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,999 computers so they were not unintelligent 968 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,999 they were very intelligent but they had 969 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,999 no ethics and morality as we understand 970 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:12,999 them and as we exit use them so my 971 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,999 question to myself or perhaps to anyone 972 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,999 else is are these guys looking now 973 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,999 perhaps for another solution obviously 974 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,999 we learned in this century that if there 975 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:25,999 is no competitive spirit if there is no 976 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,999 desire to succeed if there is no 977 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:28,999 pressure 978 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,999 on an individual to learn to do 979 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,999 something constructive to succeed to 980 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,999 help build some little corner on brick 981 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,999 or two in our civilization without that 982 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,999 pressure if people don't do anything and 983 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,999 if you suddenly wind up in a situation 984 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,999 where all of your needs and wants are 985 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,999 granted for free and you don't have to 986 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,999 go out and work for them you don't have 987 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,999 to do something to go get them you don't 988 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,999 have to cut down trees go out and skin 989 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,999 animals for their furs to survive but 990 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,999 suddenly everything is handed to you on 991 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,999 a silver platter yeah at first that 992 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,999 seems great and will work for a while 993 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,999 but after a period of time it's going to 994 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,999 fall apart and I think they were at the 995 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,999 point where they're beginning to realize 996 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,999 that this was going to happen now from 997 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,999 that point after nearly two years I was 998 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,999 told I had to go back I says go back 999 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:21,999 where what for 1000 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,999 it says well you came out of the past 1001 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,999 and there's certain problems back there 1002 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:26,999 that were unresolved and you will have 1003 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,999 to go back and solve them I don't know 1004 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,999 what you're talking about I didn't at 1005 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,999 that point remember my involvement at 1006 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:33,999 the Philadelphia area that was 1007 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,999 brainwashed number one if you will and 1008 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,999 the lava the local one kept insisting 1009 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,999 you must go back 1010 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,999 I said on water says you will go back 1011 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,999 and I did but before I left during that 1012 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,999 two-year period I met somebody became a 1013 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:52,999 very close companion he happened to be a 1014 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,999 tour guide because there were a lot of 1015 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,999 Tours in those days and tour guides of 1016 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,999 course were necessary to take people 1017 00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,999 around and show them the sights and 1018 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,999 showing some of the old cities New York 1019 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,999 City was a museum if you will as were 1020 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,999 some other the old cities in the 20th 1021 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,999 century those that survived and they 1022 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,999 made very nice museums out of them New 1023 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,999 York was a sort of the model to show how 1024 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,999 people live in the 20th century a great 1025 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:19,999 deal of it I did go on that tour a great 1026 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,999 deal of it was still intact most of 1027 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,999 Manhattan not all of it 1028 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,999 Brooklyn Queens were essentially 1029 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,999 destroyed and they didn't make any 1030 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:31,999 attempt to rebuild it because the 1031 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,999 destruction was too heavy but the 1032 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,999 concrete and steel of New York of 1033 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,999 Manhattan and some of the other 1034 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,999 buildings adjacent to Manhattan survived 1035 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,999 and what little damage the was was 1036 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,999 repaired and they made a very nice 1037 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,999 Museum of it you can go through it and 1038 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,999 tour it see the underground subway 1039 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,999 systems I don't think they're up as I 1040 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,999 remember they were not operational but 1041 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,999 everything was there made a very 1042 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:03,999 interesting review of history from the 1043 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,999 standpoint of those of the 20th century 1044 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,999 what we take for granted today of course 1045 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,999 they didn't and at that point I did not 1046 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,999 have my memory of the 20th century but 1047 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,999 as time went on I came back after I left 1048 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,999 the 20th century they said I had to go 1049 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,999 back so I was sent back and of course 1050 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,999 this raises the question were they the 1051 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:26,999 ones who brought me up there in the 1052 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,999 first place I certainly didn't have any 1053 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:30,999 how had we handy to do it I certainly 1054 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,999 had no desire to go to the 20th century 1055 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,999 I knew nothing about it so I went back 1056 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,999 to 21 37 Duncan was there and I was 1057 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,999 moved with the idea we had to go back I 1058 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,999 had no idea how we were going to go back 1059 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:46,999 and I wasn't even sure at that point 1060 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,999 where but we did go back we were sent 1061 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,999 back to 1983 1062 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,999 the tomb of the early morning hours 1063 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,999 approximately 2:00 a.m. a 12 August 1983 1064 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,999 inside the chain-link fence of Montauk 1065 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,999 Point and this search lights came down 1066 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,999 from a large helicopter and MPs of quite 1067 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:12,999 a number came out grabbed us and took us 1068 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,999 to the building where when we boarded an 1069 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:16,999 elevator went down below and then of 1070 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,999 course met dr. John von Neumann at the 1071 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,999 point of our return however that is to 1072 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,999 1983 a great deal the memory of the 1073 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,999 other elements came back at this point 1074 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,999 I'm still not sure how much if it came 1075 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,999 back but quite a bit of it did and when 1076 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,999 we were returned to the Eldridge by the 1077 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,999 crew and his system at Montauk nearly 1078 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,999 the time tunnel and we're back in the 1079 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:45,999 Eldridge and it was back in the harbor 1080 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,999 and we went up an arm that is I wound up 1081 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,999 in the four-day board of inquiry Duncan 1082 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,999 jumped overboard and went back to the 1083 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,999 later part of that century in the 20th 1084 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,999 century but after giving my report of 1085 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,999 course I was not believed in retrospect 1086 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,999 I can understand why it was not believed 1087 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,999 it was who in the year 1983 is going to 1088 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,999 believe a story about 1943 is going to 1089 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,999 believe a story about 1983 much less 1090 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,999 about further on in the future than that 1091 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,999 or be hard enough to understand 1983 1092 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,999 it's only 40 years but enormous changes 1093 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,999 took place far more than would never 1094 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,999 have been normally expected and let us 1095 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,999 say the mental projection of what comes 1096 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,999 on after 1943 nobody expected such rapid 1097 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,999 development of aircraft of automobiles 1098 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:38,999 of highways of freeways systems of 1099 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,999 electronics of computers of course in 1100 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,999 1983 computers were not in the form to 1101 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,999 any extent of personal computers as 1102 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,999 today the case in the year 2000 but 1103 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,999 nevertheless computers existed and they 1104 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,999 were proliferating and every way and 1105 00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,999 every respects but then to pad a story 1106 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,999 about 2137 I'm sure that was a little 1107 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,999 bit too much they thought I was a little 1108 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:07,999 bit ill I got 1109 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,999 some radiation sickness nobody said that 1110 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,999 because they gave a very coherent report 1111 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,999 but I'm sure they might well have been 1112 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:14,999 thinking it 1113 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,999 Duncan was not there to back me up 1114 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,999 unfortunately and he went on back to the 1115 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,999 year 1983 late 82 early 83 were not sure 1116 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,999 I say I'm not sure because those records 1117 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,999 we didn't dig out until after the month 1118 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,999 to a project collapsed I was in the 90s 1119 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,999 95 96 were able to find out what 1120 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,999 happened to Duncan the rest of the story 1121 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:40,999 of Duncan we were able to finally piece 1122 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,999 together was rather bizarre in its own 1123 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,999 way when Duncan and I were sent back to 1124 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:48,999 the elders to destroy the equipment 1125 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,999 which we did and the fields were 1126 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,999 collapsing it took over two minutes for 1127 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,999 that totally collapse and we found the 1128 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,999 two sailors bury in the steel of a deck 1129 00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,999 in the steel of a bulkhead for the other 1130 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,999 two and I went over to talk with his 1131 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,999 brother Jim who was crying and dying and 1132 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,999 did die Duncan became so dismayed by all 1133 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,999 of this that he headed for the railing 1134 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,999 and looked back at me like well aren't I 1135 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,999 coming along with him and I replied no 1136 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,999 so he jumped over Boyd and as we found 1137 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:19,999 out later he wound up back at Montauk 1138 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,999 not at the same point in time 12 August 1139 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,999 83 but considerably earlier and became 1140 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,999 part of the project and did a lot of 1141 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,999 work for them the records indicated that 1142 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,999 as the records after the year in 1983 1143 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,999 that in one of the time tunnel 1144 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,999 operations that he was involved in he 1145 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:41,999 didn't know know something was strictly 1146 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,999 forbidden is that four regions they 1147 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,999 didn't understand occasionally side 1148 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,999 tunnels developed and their orders were 1149 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,999 never to go down the side tunnels 1150 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,999 because they didn't know why they were 1151 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,999 created how they were created or where 1152 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,999 they went and the OREA water was don't 1153 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,999 take a chance don't go down him oh you 1154 00:51:59,000 --> 00:51:59,999 don't say that's a Duncan not as he was 1155 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,999 then so he did down with the side 1156 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,999 tunnels I went up in the hands of aliens 1157 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,999 and they demanded of him that we want a 1158 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,999 certain piece of hardware like what now 1159 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,999 they told them there's a certain power 1160 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,999 package crystal aboard that UFO which 1161 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,999 is the buried in the underground there 1162 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,999 as part of the Montauk Project we want 1163 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,999 that crystal back my talk it says well I 1164 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,999 don't have to do with it just as well 1165 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,999 you will go back and get it or you will 1166 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,999 send somebody back to get it in fact 1167 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:36,999 they will just keep you here and hope 1168 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,999 that somebody finds out you're missing 1169 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,999 into sends another person here and we're 1170 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,999 given the message so eventually the 1171 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:48,999 message got back at Duncan had a problem 1172 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,999 and that the solution was to remove that 1173 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,999 large crystal and energy storage crystal 1174 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,999 unnamed UFO it wasn't was delivered 1175 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,999 there and Duncan was released but by 1176 00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,999 that time the damage had been done his 1177 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,999 time locks have been broken and he was 1178 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,999 eating an extremely rapid read now you 1179 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,999 may ask what is a time lock we're 1180 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,999 referring to that ambiguous item which 1181 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,999 involves how is a person a new soul or 1182 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,999 an old soul doesn't matter that is a 1183 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,999 taking possession of a body that is in 1184 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,999 the process of being generated from the 1185 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,999 fetus onward how did he lock into that 1186 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,999 particular body well there is a 1187 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:30,999 connecting link that is also a 1188 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,999 connecting link to that point in the 1189 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,999 time stream as the reference point that 1190 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,999 this is where the person's life begins 1191 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,999 both physically and in terms of the 1192 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,999 attachment of the soul when the body and 1193 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,999 the body's gone and the soul is free 1194 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:46,999 they can travel up and down the time 1195 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,999 stream if they want to and take a body 1196 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,999 at some other time frame then the next 1197 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,999 slot so to speak after they died and 1198 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,999 occasionally this happens in any case 1199 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,999 Duncan wad up dying slowly but surely 1200 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,999 aging very rapidly the station personnel 1201 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,999 and those who were able to do age 1202 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,999 reversal already had that equipment 1203 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,999 there because they used it on me later 1204 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,999 apparently couldn't reverse them fast 1205 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,999 enough to keep it from overwhelming them 1206 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,999 and they in spite of the best efforts he 1207 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,999 was continuing to each so times old to 1208 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:24,999 the rescue namely Montauk back to the 1209 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,999 locate father and warn him and tell him 1210 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:29,999 that 1211 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,999 dumpin was dying you can't have this 1212 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:31,999 happen because 1213 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,999 the time stability problems kept busy 1214 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,999 and make another Duncan so he married 1215 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,999 his fifth wife illegal or marriage first 1216 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,999 job one was a sister and the second one 1217 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:49,999 was Duncan that was in June 28th 1951 1218 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,999 now for some very complex reasons the 1219 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,999 soul of Duncan could not enter that body 1220 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,999 directly at that time of birth normally 1221 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,999 that's what happens this most of the 1222 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,999 time I could not so they had to have a 1223 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,999 surrogate soul and as a surrogate soul 1224 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,999 was found to inhabit that body as a 1225 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,999 perfectly normal functioning body which 1226 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,999 it didn't dump in number two went to 1227 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,999 school acted like a very bright 1228 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,999 youngster I pictures up in that pay 1229 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,999 phase at that time dumpin does not want 1230 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,999 them be shown publicly now and he grew 1231 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,999 up to the age of 12 and according to 1232 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,999 information acquired later at the age of 1233 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,999 12 and the 12th of August 1963 the 1234 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,999 circuit saw was kicked out and the real 1235 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,999 Duncan came in his mother had reported a 1236 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,999 very sharp change in the personality at 1237 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,999 the time period he age of 12 in July 1238 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,999 August and that of course didn't mean 1239 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,999 anything to us until there's like 1240 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,999 reverse-engineering reverse-engineered 1241 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,999 what happened to Duncan and we find out 1242 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,999 rather at a strange but actually varèse 1243 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,999 a conclusive way when the project 1244 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,999 collapsed in 1983 dumpling was off of it 1245 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:11,999 I was offered president many other 1246 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,999 people but don't can I had a lot of 1247 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,999 psychological problems as a result of 1248 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,999 his involvement with the Montauk Project 1249 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,999 the Montauk Boys and eventually he came 1250 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,999 to seek help from someone he was told 1251 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:25,999 could help and then we press the Nichols 1252 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,999 now at this point of course he had been 1253 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,999 brainwashed that his debriefed just as 1254 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,999 head Preston as that I had had everybody 1255 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,999 else who survived that operation and he 1256 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:39,999 didn't know Preston when he walked in 1257 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,999 the door Preston didn't know Duncan but 1258 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,999 he says first of all he had some high 1259 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:45,999 five 1260 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,999 when he wanted fixed which breast 1261 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,999 murmurs and the business of doing and 1262 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,999 then the matter of discussions that went 1263 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,999 on after that point person asked me a 1264 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,999 few questions and says well it sounds 1265 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,999 like you have some problems if you're 1266 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,999 willing we'll try some deprogramming 1267 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,999 we'll try some hypnosis on you so about 1268 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:12,999 1986 he hypnotized Duncan and took them 1269 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,999 back from gradually from the period of 1270 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,999 the Montauk Project to the age of 12 1271 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,999 which everything seemed to be normal as 1272 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,999 normal it's going to be expected time 1273 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,999 together so forth then they took Duncan 1274 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,999 back so let's go earlier well they did a 1275 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:26,999 quantum leap jump to the decks of the 1276 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,999 Eldridge this is what was ported to me 1277 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,999 by Preston after the hypnosis session 1278 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,999 and was on the deck knee says I'm at 1279 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:35,999 some strange ship called the Eldridge 1280 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,999 and so there are people here that I know 1281 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,999 today as one of them is Al Bielek and he 1282 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:43,999 names some others have been meaning to 1283 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,999 me and the aspect of the Montauk Boys 1284 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,999 program but at least we had determined 1285 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,999 what had happened to the Duncan we knew 1286 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,999 that I met at that time as Al Bielek was 1287 00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,999 essentially the same Duncan except that 1288 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,999 there is a buddy change and by the same 1289 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,999 father the body came out nearly the same 1290 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,999 a different mother but that has a long 1291 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,999 and howling experience trying to dig all 1292 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,999 that out and we did breast intercourse 1293 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,999 was having problems with his own 1294 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,999 memories and to this day he is asked for 1295 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:22,999 help and he says I don't know anybody 1296 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,999 can deprogram me I can deprogram 1297 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:25,999 everybody else but he's going to 1298 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,999 deprogram me says I want to get clear 1299 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,999 this also that was a very interesting 1300 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,999 statement on his part and of course 1301 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,999 today it doesn't do too much about it 1302 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:39,999 because he's had to drop all the 1303 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,999 deprogramming efforts because he got 1304 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:43,999 into shall we say some difficulty with 1305 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,999 the military over some of us 1306 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:46,999 deprogramming efforts with some of the 1307 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,999 local boys and sailors and military 1308 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,999 people and non-military people on a Long 1309 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,999 Island area he had quite a reputation 1310 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:56,999 president I mean 1311 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,999 and people sought them out today we 1312 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,999 won't do any deprogramming is in other 1313 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,999 areas now let's get on to some other 1314 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,999 things here which I want to include in 1315 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,999 this report or shall I say this whole 1316 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,999 thing of my history there was another 1317 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,999 element I'm not going to get into an 1318 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,999 appropriate depth when I was removed 1319 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,999 from Los Alamos laboratories reassigned 1320 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,999 to the Pentagon and of course went to 1321 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,999 Muroc now Edwards Air Force Base and was 1322 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,999 a witness to the mock wound proceedings 1323 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,999 in the Mach 1 test which was successful 1324 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,999 as I had stated on 28 october 1947 I met 1325 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,999 Jack Ridley who was a aeronautical 1326 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,999 engineer with a master's degree from 1327 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,999 Caltech was also a pilot and the army 1328 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,999 and of course eventually became the Army 1329 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,999 Air Force and about 1947 they were just 1330 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,999 changing over to the official US Air 1331 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,999 Force I got to know quite well we talked 1332 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:03,999 great deal about this problem of 1333 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,999 propulsion high speed aircraft and such 1334 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,999 we're discussing the aspects of future 1335 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:14,999 travel such as in space and we came to 1336 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:15,999 the conclusion Hill rockets are fine for 1337 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,999 short periods of time they're very 1338 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,999 powerful but they are very short-lived 1339 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,999 they don't last long nASA has made them 1340 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,999 work amazingly well but that's still the 1341 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,999 same story and basic principle a lot of 1342 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,999 power for a relatively short period of 1343 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,999 time how do you conduct long extended 1344 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,999 explorations in space now this is 1345 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,999 without any consideration of the montauk 1346 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,999 tunnel situation or anything like that 1347 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,999 which at that point we knew nothing 1348 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,999 about because it hadn't yet happened I'm 1349 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,999 speaking of course in 1947 under 48 we 1350 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,999 became good friends and we both hatched 1351 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,999 up an idea where I need to develop as a 1352 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,999 my own propulsion engine well we were 1353 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:56,999 convinced would work we're both 1354 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,999 physicists when he had the advantage of 1355 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,999 also being an aeronautical engineer and 1356 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,999 he liked the idea so he went back to his 1357 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:04,999 principles in the Air Force and I went 1358 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,999 back to mine and then a 1359 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,999 get the Pentagon gave a pitch as to what 1360 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,999 we thought would be some of the future 1361 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,999 engine's future propulsion systems 1362 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,999 particularly for space exploration and 1363 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,999 we thought we could develop one well 1364 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,999 both the Navy in the Air Force loved the 1365 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,999 idea and they gave us some monies as go 1366 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,999 ahead and acquire a facility will fund 1367 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,999 it see what you can do and put us on 1368 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:28,999 executive leave 1369 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,999 I don't know now why we made the 1370 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,999 decision to go to California but Edwards 1371 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:35,999 is in Eastern California and we liked 1372 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,999 the idea of perhaps something closer to 1373 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,999 the ocean we wound up acquiring a 1374 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,999 facility which is about half a mile east 1375 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,999 of coast 101 which does say about a half 1376 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,999 a mile east of the beach and who was up 1377 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:52,999 in an area which was at that time 1378 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,999 extremely open one of the roads led up 1379 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,999 into the canyon country Topanga Canyon 1380 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,999 specifically and this Beach Road was 1381 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,999 where we built the facility we started 1382 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,999 operations about 49 without going of the 1383 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:09,999 history of the failures of which there 1384 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,999 were many and we had a small staff was 1385 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,999 all paid for by the military by in 1952 1386 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,999 it looks like we're beginning somewhere 1387 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,999 is in January 1953 we had the first 1388 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,999 fully successful test we had an engine 1389 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,999 on the test and which produced twelve 1390 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,999 hundred pounds thrust for twenty minutes 1391 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,999 and I go was 1,000 pounds thrust for ten 1392 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,999 minutes what we exceeded it I decided 1393 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:34,999 we're going to let the end range and run 1394 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,999 all day to see if it would it didn't one 1395 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,999 of the ion feeds broke down after 20 1396 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,999 minutes we had to shut it down even 1397 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,999 though it was a very highly classified 1398 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,999 project the word got around for the 1399 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,999 industry yeah craft industry of course 1400 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,999 and Douglas of Long Beach was ecstatic 1401 01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,999 they wanted to work with us I don't know 1402 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:55,999 what they had in mind but they did 1403 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,999 definitely like what we had done and 1404 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,999 wanted to work with us Martin aircraft 1405 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,999 and the East Coast which was a well 1406 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,999 known aircraft company at that time and 1407 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:05,999 still exist DOMA has merged with 1408 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:11,999 Lockheed were so we say really gruff no 1409 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,999 comment Boeing heard about it and they 1410 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,999 hit the roof well we got the feedback on 1411 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:19,999 that when we figured well they must have 1412 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,999 something in the role in the skunkworks 1413 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:22,999 their own smoke works and probably we 1414 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,999 beat them to the draw appears on the 1415 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,999 scene at that point my father the 1416 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,999 natural father Alexander Duncan camera 1417 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,999 senior whose life has been a great 1418 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,999 mystery and only in the last year we've 1419 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,999 been able to put together some of the 1420 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,999 missing pieces at that time I had almost 1421 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,999 none of the missing pieces other than we 1422 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,999 know he disappeared for long periods of 1423 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,999 time and superimposing knowledge from 1424 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,999 now on what happened then I will say 1425 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,999 when he approached us and said to us I 1426 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,999 like what you're doing incorporate and I 1427 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,999 will give you unlimited funding he says 1428 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,999 if you ever get this company off the 1429 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,999 ground you will undoubtedly make a great 1430 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,999 deal of money and this will become a man 1431 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,999 a multi-million multinational company so 1432 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,999 he was all for backing it and his source 1433 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,999 of funds was a strange organization 1434 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,999 called the Wolfsburg trust since WOL FSB 1435 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,999 urg trusts out of Wolfsburg Germany 1436 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,999 founded by dr. Hans Porsche the founder 1437 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,999 of Porsche motor car company and of 1438 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:26,999 course VW motor car company the info I 1439 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,999 have which is sketchy and is very 1440 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:29,999 difficult to get information on almost 1441 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,999 brick trust is that it was founded by 1442 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,999 hands portion the thirties and of course 1443 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,999 there was under the nose of Hitler but 1444 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,999 Hitler was not completely the maniac at 1445 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,999 least in those days that is when has 1446 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,999 been portrayed to be and he was rather 1447 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:47,999 hard-headed at that time and his 1448 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,999 problems let his Hitler's problems going 1449 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:51,999 off the deep end occurred apparently 1450 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,999 after 1941 but that time at least hands 1451 01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,999 Porsche made a trust fund which he 1452 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,999 intended as it accrued money would be 1453 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,999 available after the times at that time 1454 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,999 he saw the war coming he said after the 1455 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,999 war would be available for third world 1456 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,999 countries that wish to become democratic 1457 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,999 governments now they would hopefully 1458 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:13,999 have enough money to help these smaller 1459 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,999 countries to incorporate their own 1460 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,999 government and democratic basis at the 1461 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,999 time the father walked in that office I 1462 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,999 didn't know how much money he had or 1463 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,999 where it came from but since then I 1464 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,999 found out that the Wolfsburg trust at 1465 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,999 its peak which was around that period 1466 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,999 had something over three trillion 1467 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:33,999 dollars in 1468 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,999 trust trillion not billion they 1469 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,999 definitely had the clout to help a few 1470 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,999 nations become independent well father 1471 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,999 said he would put up all the money we 1472 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:46,999 should incorporate we didn't cooperate 1473 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,999 between January and March we had the 1474 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,999 papers in the mill and I filed for 1475 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:53,999 patents I don't know if they're ever 1476 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,999 issued or not or where they went because 1477 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,999 of what happened to only two months 1478 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,999 later in March of 1953 I one of the 1479 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,999 business trips when Jack was out of town 1480 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,999 taking care of business and such I don't 1481 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,999 know whether there's company business or 1482 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:10,999 Navy business he said he had to go to 1483 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:11,999 town on business 1484 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,999 I'm sorry airforce business but he was 1485 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:16,999 out of town and during that time a 1486 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:18,999 period when sitting in the office one 1487 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:19,999 day a team of black ops personnel 1488 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,999 descend on e7 of them the grab me take 1489 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:25,999 me out of the building in front of 1490 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,999 everyone and if we go down to Washington 1491 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,999 DC in from Washington DC when taken to 1492 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,999 McLean Virginia a special joint facility 1493 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:39,999 of both NSA and CIA and as too much to 1494 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,999 my surprise not knowing anything much 1495 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,999 about this sort of thing not expecting 1496 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,999 another return of what we had 1497 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,999 anticipated and gone through in the 1498 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:50,999 Philadelphia Experiment there they had a 1499 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,999 portal inside one of those buildings of 1500 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,999 the facility at McLean Virginia and I 1501 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:56,999 was kicked in it 1502 01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,999 and they wound up elsewhere so what else 1503 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,999 was know this one was definitely very 1504 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,999 new we went up as I was told after 1505 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,999 arrival an office entire e11 being 1506 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,999 planet number one in their system and I 1507 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:13,999 was being interrogated by a group of 1508 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,999 near human looking beings about 6 foot 1509 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,999 high they had essentially human form the 1510 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,999 facial features were not exactly human 1511 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,999 they were rough but in any case they 1512 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,999 interrogated me for some four days they 1513 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,999 wanted to know my history what I had 1514 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,999 done where I was doing because I want to 1515 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,999 know what the blazes I was doing there 1516 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,999 and what their interest was well I've 1517 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,999 had the feeling that my life hung in the 1518 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,999 balance and that if I wanted to get out 1519 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,999 of there I better tell them everything 1520 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,999 so I started with the Philadelphia 1521 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:47,999 Herman was going in the Navy the 1522 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,999 Philadelphia Experiment oh yes we know 1523 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,999 about that and well of a time travel Oh 1524 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,999 where'd you go well I went to 21:37 mmm 1525 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,999 okay then I went to the 20th century 1526 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,999 then he got a little more interested I 1527 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,999 told him about what I saw there and so 1528 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,999 forth and they expressed some passing 1529 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:07,999 interest but I said I met a strange 1530 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:11,999 group there I saw was that so the 1531 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:12,999 WingMakers and I told them all about 1532 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,999 them these guys absolutely went bonkers 1533 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,999 they freaked out 1534 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,999 they said you contacted who and I said a 1535 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,999 group that calls himself the WingMakers 1536 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,999 said you're going back and they did 1537 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,999 something which I learned since rarely 1538 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,999 ever happens I was shipped back to the 1539 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:33,999 point of origin namely that Naevia that 1540 01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:39,999 CIA NSA facility at Fort McLean Virginia 1541 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,999 they were sent back to the Pentagon and 1542 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,999 the next thing I asked was when am I 1543 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,999 going to go back to California nobody 1544 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:47,999 would give me an answer 1545 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,999 and I kicked around the Pentagon for 1546 01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,999 months literally from sometime late 1547 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:53,999 March 1548 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,999 that same day almost that I was taken 1549 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,999 out I've several days later because 1550 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:00,999 there was four days passed on office 1551 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,999 Atari which did not correlate directly 1552 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:07,999 with our time frame was close and I had 1553 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,999 nothing to do no job to perform a report 1554 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,999 in daily as I respected to do at a 1555 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:15,999 living quarters could not see the family 1556 01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,999 was not allowed to last time I saw them 1557 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,999 was in 1952 when I snuck a visit to the 1558 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,999 family finding out where they were at 1559 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,999 that time four out of California so this 1560 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,999 went on for months and I kept asking 1561 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,999 questions well what am I going to be 1562 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,999 able to go back and do some work I 1563 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,999 wasn't doing any work of any kind nobody 1564 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:39,999 would give me an answer 1565 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,999 I finally went up to the Joint Chiefs of 1566 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,999 Staff and asked them particularly the 1567 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,999 Navy don't know we know what's going on 1568 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,999 can't give you an answer 1569 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,999 go away type of attitude not that of 1570 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,999 rough a statement but that kind of 1571 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,999 attitude like they wished I wasn't 1572 01:09:59,000 --> 01:09:59,999 asking the question 1573 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,999 because you don't get that gruff with 1574 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,999 somebody the rank I had which was then 1575 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,999 captain in the US Navy but they wouldn't 1576 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,999 give me an answer either way they give 1577 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,999 me any bad treatment neither did they 1578 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,999 give me any answers and I stood there 1579 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,999 and I walked around there and worked a 1580 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,999 little bit now and then finally went to 1581 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,999 the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and 1582 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,999 asked him what's going on so forth he 1583 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,999 says frankly says I can't tell you he 1584 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,999 says I don't know I says well I'd like 1585 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:32,999 to get back in on mainstream of the Navy 1586 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,999 I'm a career man I would like to finish 1587 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,999 my term I would like to do what I'm a 1588 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,999 Spectre to do what I'm capable of doing 1589 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,999 and he looked at me almost here fully 1590 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,999 says I'm sorry there's nothing I can do 1591 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,999 and I'll not forget those words quote it 1592 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,999 is out of our hands unquote 1593 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,999 now this is the Joint Chiefs of Staff 1594 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,999 and finally the chairman of the Joint 1595 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,999 Chiefs saying it is out of his hands if 1596 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:00,999 it's out of his hands whose hands 1597 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,999 was it in certainly not the President of 1598 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,999 the United States under military matter 1599 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,999 like this who was probably totally 1600 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,999 unaware of the projects of an ongoing so 1601 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,999 where did it go well it obviously went 1602 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,999 back to where a Justin returned from 1603 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,999 Alpha Centauri before I left 1604 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,999 I should say before I was removed from 1605 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,999 the operation in our little facility on 1606 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,999 the beach a group had started nosing 1607 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:31,999 around like they were interested in 1608 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,999 taking over our operation and that is a 1609 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,999 group called the Cristal D research 1610 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,999 group give a little info on that very 1611 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,999 briefly but I remembered the name 1612 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:43,999 because at that point they were poking 1613 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,999 around after father had also made his 1614 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,999 pitch and asking questions and as a left 1615 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,999 or is about to leave the office entire 1616 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,999 group I happened to ask them oh do you 1617 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,999 anything about a course toldi research 1618 01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:01,999 group oh yeah we run them and that stuck 1619 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:06,999 in my craw for quite a while it provided 1620 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:07,999 some answers 1621 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,999 and an analysis of what did finally 1622 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,999 happen to that company jack really was 1623 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,999 removed in 1954 it was shut down he 1624 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:17,999 tried to keep it going but he could not 1625 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,999 keep it going very well alone and when 1626 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:21,999 he was removed nobody could who was shut 1627 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,999 down students sat in limbo for years 1628 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,999 eventually he was research corporation 1629 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,999 was formed and they bought the property 1630 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,999 was in malibu in malibu beach area about 1631 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,999 a 1/2 mile east of the beach and it's 1632 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,999 very visibly there today much expanded 1633 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,999 but the original facility was in limbo 1634 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:45,999 for years and nothing happened well in 1635 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,999 the last year I mean the last year of 1636 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,999 the last century 1999 having not 1637 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,999 recalled up to that point of January any 1638 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,999 of this what I just described to you I 1639 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,999 fell across a book in the Barnes & Noble 1640 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,999 bookstore entitled the history of Mach 1 1641 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,999 I was a title on the book was literally 1642 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:07,999 the history of the development of the 1643 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,999 Mach 1 plus aircraft at Edwards then 1644 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,999 Muroc I looked at it as oh I know a 1645 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,999 little bit about this and wonder what 1646 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:18,999 these people have to say about it so I 1647 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:19,999 open to look through it found some pea 1648 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:24,999 pictures and open the book and they were 1649 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,999 looking at a picture of five of the crew 1650 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,999 members or the associated crew for the 1651 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,999 bell x-1 Chuck Yeager was in the middle 1652 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,999 and on the right end was a man by the 1653 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,999 name of Jack Ridley they didn't know the 1654 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,999 name but when I looked at it I 1655 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,999 recognized Yeager Ridley I recognized as 1656 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,999 I know this guy where is he from 1657 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,999 what's the connection I know I know I've 1658 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:48,999 never forgotten the face no matter how 1659 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,999 much I've been brainwashed and I 1660 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,999 recognized them I knew him from 1661 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,999 somewheres who was that search from 1662 01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,999 January of 1999 and so approximately 1663 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,999 September and then a lot of corollary 1664 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,999 research with let us say internet 1665 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,999 searching brought up some of the most 1666 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,999 interesting answers Jack Riley of course 1667 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,999 as I described was an Air Force he 1668 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,999 became part of that project he was 1669 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,999 thrown out in 1954 1670 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,999 the project collapsed but on the history 1671 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,999 of his life there's a huge gap on the 1672 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,999 internet history of Ridley's life 1673 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,999 between 1948 and 1956 it's blank 1674 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,999 completely in 1956 he formed a company 1675 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,999 of his own entitled Ridley and Oran 1676 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:34,999 article machines and Coral Gables 1677 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,999 Florida I don't know it was successful 1678 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,999 or not the net report didn't say but in 1679 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,999 1957 he flew to Japan to have a reunion 1680 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,999 the tenth year reunion of the group for 1681 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,999 Mach one projects he crashed his plane 1682 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,999 the public record says that he died in 1683 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,999 that crash was that a big Memorial thing 1684 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,999 for him and that the tower at Edwards 1685 01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,999 Air Force Base today is called Jack 1686 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,999 Ridley Tower as a result of that but I 1687 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:04,999 have other information that says he 1688 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,999 didn't die in that crash that he lived 1689 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,999 on he survived the crash and was brought 1690 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:10,999 back to health slowly but eventually 1691 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,999 died about seven years later at Edwards 1692 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,999 and I'm not even sure if that's a true 1693 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,999 report but that was what I was told the 1694 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,999 other informations I guess again 1695 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,999 confidential from very confidential 1696 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,999 sources said that yes he did die on 54 1697 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,999 but then the time travel crews went back 1698 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,999 and pulled him out before he died so 1699 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,999 here we Garrett again into the area of 1700 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,999 not merely timing manipulation but 1701 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,999 altering history pulled him out probably 1702 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:42,999 gave him a brainwashing because they 1703 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,999 have not met him since and put him back 1704 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,999 to work under his own name rumors were 1705 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,999 that he was back up in Marietta Georgia 1706 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,999 at the Martin Marietta which later 1707 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,999 became the a Martin Lockheed company 1708 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,999 that he had been there I could find no 1709 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,999 trace of him going through the entire 1710 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:08,999 shall we say department of personnel all 1711 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:09,999 their records did they find a Jack 1712 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:10,999 Ridley 1713 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,999 no nobody that name here we haven't run 1714 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,999 anybody by that name here and so forth 1715 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:18,999 he may have been there under a pseudonym 1716 01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,999 I don't know but I've never found them 1717 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,999 but the facts are that GRC Enterprises 1718 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,999 is alive and well 1719 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,999 it is still in some manner functional it 1720 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,999 has carried as a wholly owned subsidiary 1721 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:46,999 of the Cristalli research group now 1722 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,999 comes the question who is the chris 1723 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,999 tolly research group that was a question 1724 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:53,999 it took a great deal of effort to come 1725 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,999 up with any answers at all - they were 1726 01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,999 listed on the internet as chris tolly 1727 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,999 research group offices in principal 1728 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,999 cities office and of acting vatican and 1729 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,999 the sort of thing and also that they 1730 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,999 were building a new facility on Long 1731 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:16,999 Island a headquarters facility more than 1732 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,999 one person was involved in the search 1733 01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:19,999 for me and the one of them found out 1734 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,999 that it was quite obvious that the 1735 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,999 headquarters for cristal D was the 1736 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,999 Vatican itself because two and a half 1737 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,999 centuries ago a man by the name of 1738 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,999 Cristal D the Castaldi family was the 1739 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,999 treasurer for the Vatican and that I've 1740 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,999 so proved very very interesting they had 1741 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,999 large sums of money available they 1742 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,999 apparently intervened at a time when 1743 01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,999 there is some very original or event 1744 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,999 guide information being made being made 1745 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,999 available research being done such as we 1746 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:50,999 were doing with the ion propulsion 1747 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:56,999 engine and we found some interesting 1748 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,999 material the project which we were on we 1749 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:02,999 were trying to develop was scuttled 1750 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,999 unburied for years in the last few years 1751 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,999 chris tolly research group is now 1752 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:10,999 functioning at the University of Georgia 1753 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,999 Georgia Tech on the Mars colonization 1754 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,999 project this is straight off the 1755 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,999 internet and what this project entails 1756 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,999 is the developing of a elevator system 1757 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,999 from the surface of Mars to an orbiting 1758 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,999 stationary vehicle which has supplies 1759 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,999 onboard transferring personnel 1760 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,999 transferring objects Hardware tools 1761 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,999 whatever and they would use an elevator 1762 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:37,999 I'm quite 1763 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:39,999 the planned and consisting of a carbon 1764 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,999 filament type structure very strong and 1765 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,999 anion propulsion engine to run the 1766 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:47,999 elevator from the surface back up to the 1767 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,999 top and to control its descent and of 1768 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,999 course Cristal is involved with us so 1769 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:55,999 the project apparently has been 1770 01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,999 resurrected I have not yet been able to 1771 01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:58,999 begin there sufficiently to find out 1772 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,999 what I can find out if anything but I do 1773 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,999 intend to do so of course there were 1774 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:06,999 other ion propulsion engine projects 1775 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,999 have returned up in the meantime as a 1776 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:10,999 Kaufmann engine there are several others 1777 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,999 I think nASA has gotten into it there 1778 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,999 were rumors that Hughes themselves got 1779 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,999 into it back in the 60s and developed an 1780 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:18,999 ion propulsion engine for use aboard a 1781 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,999 b-52 perhaps to replace the if 1782 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,999 sufficiently strong or enough propulsion 1783 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,999 to replace the jet engines that way they 1784 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,999 could not do that they found that out 1785 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,999 and one of the limitations of a 1786 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,999 propulsion engine of that type I on 1787 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,999 propulsion he is about 2,000 pounds 1788 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,999 thrust under the theories which were 1789 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,999 then current current and I came up with 1790 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,999 a conclusion at that time that the math 1791 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,999 was incomplete and was not correct 1792 01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:50,999 obviously not totally wrong because we 1793 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:52,999 made an engine work but that as you 1794 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,999 increase the power up to a point like 1795 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,999 about two thousand pounds thrust the 1796 01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,999 mathematics has an inbuilt error 1797 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,999 function which will not allow you to get 1798 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,999 past about two thousand pounds thrust 1799 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,999 I was already past that and I was ready 1800 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,999 to design an engine for ten thousand 1801 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:10,999 pounds thrust which would have made a 1802 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,999 difference not only in space but on some 1803 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,999 of our military aircraft because the 1804 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,999 b-52 and the earlier versions at least 1805 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,999 ran eight engines with twenty thousand 1806 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,999 pounds thrust each currently I believe 1807 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,999 they run about thirty thousand pounds 1808 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,999 with water injection and a few other 1809 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,999 booster systems for takeoff power b-52 1810 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:32,999 is still being flown with eight engines 1811 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,999 of 30,000 pounds plus that's a lot of 1812 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,999 thrust and of course we have the c-130 1813 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,999 the c5 a as the particular one I mean to 1814 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,999 refer to using much larger jet engine 1815 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,999 today and of course it's a very very 1816 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:45,999 heavy crane 1817 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,999 I don't know if that could ever be 1818 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,999 converted to Haiyan propulsion engine 1819 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:51,999 because it's not intended to go to space 1820 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:56,999 anyway but the project died that may in 1821 01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,999 be currently resurrected but I've yet to 1822 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,999 find any kind of information about it I 1823 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,999 did find enough to know that my 1824 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,999 recollection jrc enterprises was quite 1825 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,999 correct it's on the internet anybody can 1826 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:13,999 find it in a way to look you have to 1827 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,999 look at it for it under chris tolly 1828 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:16,999 research group but it won't give you 1829 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:17,999 much of the history of what years the 1830 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,999 enterprises did if any at all a strange 1831 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,999 thing happens a history of those 1832 01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:26,999 developments and those activities which 1833 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,999 the establishment does not want on 1834 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,999 record for the general public as a way 1835 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:38,999 of disappearing on the subject of time 1836 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,999 travel I think a few comments are 1837 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,999 necessary or at least desirable on my 1838 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:44,999 part 1839 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,999 many people cannot accept the idea of 1840 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:49,999 time travel many scientists for that 1841 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,999 matter cannot say it's impossible 1842 01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,999 but again we get to that strange schism 1843 01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,999 between important expression public 1844 01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:59,999 science and private science by public 1845 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,999 science I mean I which is taught in the 1846 01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:02,999 universities and is commonly accepted 1847 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,999 throughout industry in the trade the 1848 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:07,999 private science being that which is 1849 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,999 restricted to only a few to certain 1850 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:11,999 government agencies a certain major 1851 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:12,999 private corporations that helped build 1852 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,999 some of the software in secret and there 1853 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,999 is a large gap or it schism there over 1854 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,999 the city I think an average of 50 years 1855 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,999 in reality in science and technologies 1856 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,999 about 50 years ahead of what is reported 1857 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,999 and taught and the usual school systems 1858 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,999 and even the best school systems with 1859 01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,999 the idea that as I have found time 1860 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,999 travel as a reality it actually was 1861 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,999 first accidentally discovered in 1936 1862 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,999 goes back to a Navy expedition evolving 1863 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,999 a brand new USS Kearsarge digging around 1864 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,999 in the South Pacific north of the shores 1865 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,999 as I'm sorry the South Atlantic north of 1866 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:55,999 the shores of Atlanta 1867 01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,999 in South America perhaps on the fringe 1868 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,999 of the so called permeate triangle they 1869 01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,999 found a large crystalline structure on 1870 01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,999 the floor of the ocean sent divers down 1871 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,999 to examine it the next thing they knew 1872 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:13,999 the Eldridge oh sorry 1873 01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,999 mr. bad the elders wasn't able to do it 1874 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:17,999 this way 1875 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,999 the Kearsarge disappeared about two 1876 01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,999 months later it came back with a very 1877 01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,999 strange explanation that is had time 1878 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,999 traveled into the future and those 1879 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,999 people in the future realized what had 1880 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,999 happened knew about the Atlantean 1881 01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:36,999 installations and showed them how to 1882 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:37,999 calibrate their system because these 1883 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,999 crystals were activated by a combination 1884 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:44,999 of electronic or actually RF and 1885 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,999 magnetic energies of a certain 1886 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,999 combination certain frequencies and so 1887 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,999 forth there were key that turned this 1888 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:53,999 thing on and they knew that the 1889 01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,999 Atlanteans have built these ages ago 1890 01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:57,999 when Atlantis was an empire that was 1891 01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,999 traveling all over the world moving 1892 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,999 heavy hardware everywhere and they used 1893 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,999 them for transport of large and very 1894 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,999 heavy car goes from point A to point B 1895 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,999 almost instantaneously didn't have to 1896 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,999 expend any fuel on it it was a very 1897 01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,999 quick and easy and very inexpensive 1898 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,999 transportation for very heavy loads is 1899 01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,999 also usable as the corsage found out for 1900 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,999 time travel they were told how they 1901 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:23,999 could calibrate the system and by the 1902 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,999 end of two years of research they 1903 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:27,999 figured out a system to utilize this 1904 01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,999 system of crystals which apparently on 1905 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,999 the ocean floor all over the US I'm 1906 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,999 sorry all over the world around the u.s. 1907 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,999 and around any other ocean on occasion 1908 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,999 ocean surrounded or ocean adjacent 1909 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,999 nation so they found out that they could 1910 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,999 use this system for time travel I don't 1911 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:48,999 know if they ever attempted to use it 1912 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:50,999 for just plain point-to-point travel 1913 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,999 then I'm not aware of it the stories I 1914 01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:55,999 ran into on the information I had which 1915 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:56,999 partly came out of the Los Alamos 1916 01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,999 laboratories black vault as did so much 1917 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,999 other things as they found out how to 1918 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,999 calibrate it they were able to use the 1919 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,999 Kearsarge and later on a number of other 1920 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:08,999 ships 1921 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:09,999 some of the outfitted with the 1922 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,999 appropriate equipment for time travel 1923 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,999 into the future and this allegedly 1924 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,999 according to my information became 1925 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,999 essential to the winning of World War 1926 01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,999 two against Nazi Germany we had to pull 1927 01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:25,999 some hardware out of the future modify a 1928 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,999 few things and even if you look at the 1929 01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,999 end of the war when we dropped a 1930 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,999 plutonium bomb as well as a standard 1931 01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,999 uranium gun barrel type bomb on Japan 1932 01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,999 so when Hiroshi was on the uranium gun 1933 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,999 barrel bomb and the one on Nagasaki by 1934 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,999 public statement wasn't a plutonium bomb 1935 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,999 one has to ask some very serious 1936 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,999 questions since in the record of the 1937 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,999 development of the atomic bomb these 1938 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,999 tests at Trinity flats was stated and 1939 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,999 their manuals and they declare that 1940 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,999 information to be a plutonium bomb and 1941 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:00,999 that it took all of the production of 1942 01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,999 plutonium out of Hanford engineering 1943 01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:04,999 works for over a year to produce enough 1944 01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:06,999 plutonium a bomb grade that they could 1945 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,999 use to test a bomb they were so 1946 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:11,999 concerned about whether it would work or 1947 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:13,999 not because they implied previous 1948 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,999 failures which was true they put a steel 1949 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,999 a very heavy steel shell around the bomb 1950 01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:21,999 in case it fails that they wouldn't lose 1951 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,999 the plutonium they can salvage it of 1952 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:25,999 course it has happened that that 1953 01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,999 particular device exploded quite well 1954 01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:30,999 left a nice glassy plating on the 1955 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,999 fertile desert floor and was seen for 1956 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,999 many many miles that took all of the 1957 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,999 plutonium that we had produced up to 1958 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,999 that time how did we within one month 1959 01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,999 get enough plutonium to build a bomb and 1960 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,999 drop it on Nagasaki that has never been 1961 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,999 answered and I think the answer lies in 1962 01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:52,999 the fact that we had time-travel 1963 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,999 capability I took some of the plutonium 1964 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,999 production out of the future were in the 1965 01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,999 80s and 90s and seventies even we were 1966 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,999 able to produce hidden rather large 1967 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,999 amounts relatively speaking the Russians 1968 01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:06,999 over 40 years and one of the secret 1969 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:08,999 cities have built up a stock of 40 tons 1970 01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:10,999 of bomb-grade plutonium they don't know 1971 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,999 what to do with and they're still 1972 01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,999 producing it so it's not that difficult 1973 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:16,999 to produce once you have the curve of 1974 01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,999 the proper facilities other than that 1975 01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:21,999 one specific instance 1976 01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,999 I'm told there were other instances of 1977 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,999 time travel being used to produce 1978 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:29,999 Hardware in the future that is our era 1979 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,999 let us say the 80s to be used during the 1980 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,999 period of World War two the bottom line 1981 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,999 was we militarily defeated Hitler and 1982 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,999 the Axis powers and Japan and the world 1983 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,999 settled back to an uneasy peace this is 1984 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:51,999 a shall we say a small inference a small 1985 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,999 indicator of manipulating history in 1986 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,999 this case ongoing history to make it 1987 01:27:59,000 --> 01:27:59,999 come out the way we wanted it to come 1988 01:28:00,000 --> 01:27:59,999 out 1989 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,999 assuming all my data is correct what 1990 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,999 about modifying history in the past to 1991 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,999 change the outcome and what is now that 1992 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,999 our time was of course the future of 1993 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,999 let's say the period of the Civil War 1994 01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,999 what about doing something like that 1995 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,999 could it be done and if it was what 1996 01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:22,999 could be done it was done would we even 1997 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,999 know about it lands is the last question 1998 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,999 is no we would not know about it because 1999 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:30,999 if you rewrote history by changing 2000 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,999 certain events in history and the whole 2001 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,999 time field alters that portions of 2002 01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,999 history after the event to correlate 2003 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,999 with what has been changed so that as a 2004 01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,999 unified connected and cohesive whole so 2005 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,999 to speak and if you keep modifying 2006 01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:49,999 history here there and everywhere is 2007 01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,999 eventually got in a severe trouble we're 2008 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:54,999 in the time field is at risk of collapse 2009 01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,999 I think my own personal opinion on 2010 01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,999 stating I think this happened in 94 95 2011 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,999 period because I was seeing evidence 2012 01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:05,999 that time is getting very unstable and 2013 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:06,999 there were some reports of some very 2014 01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,999 strange effects than at atomic clocks 2015 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,999 which normally are accurate to one part 2016 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,999 and 10 to the 23rd or something of that 2017 01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:16,999 order on the newest ones one time since 2018 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,999 14th or 15th on the older ones was 2019 01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:21,999 suddenly changing time by the matter of 2020 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,999 minutes in a matter of two weeks 2021 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,999 complete and total instability if you 2022 01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:28,999 will in terms of the type of clock it 2023 01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:33,999 was these reports persisted and I cannot 2024 01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:34,999 say they're not true and I cannot 2025 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:35,999 say the odd through because I don't have 2026 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,999 any direct inputs to those two 2027 01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:39,999 government circles we're in that 2028 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:40,999 information would be available but 2029 01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:44,999 information as a funny way of surfacing 2030 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,999 in a funny way of getting around through 2031 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,999 certain connected links of information 2032 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,999 and information specialists that was 2033 01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,999 when I definitely heard now in terms of 2034 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,999 re-engineering history on a major basis 2035 01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:08,999 let us look at the Civil War that is our 2036 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:13,999 American Civil War 1861-1865 history 2037 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,999 books today record of course has 2038 01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:18,999 everyone can read the North won the war 2039 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:20,999 it was a devastating war without 2040 01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,999 question we lost more troops in that war 2041 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,999 dead than all of the wars combined 2042 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,999 including World War one on World War two 2043 01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,999 over 550,000 dead someone I think 1.2 to 2044 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,999 1.5 million injured I'm not sure those 2045 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,999 figures are even accurate because they 2046 01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:37,999 weren't keeping accurate figures at that 2047 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:43,999 point history records we the North won 2048 01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,999 the war against the South the southern 2049 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:49,999 states of course seceded they had every 2050 01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:51,999 legal right to do so the war was not 2051 01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,999 over slavery was over economic issues 2052 01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:55,999 and of course that is fairly well known 2053 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,999 that does have dung into it but no it is 2054 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,999 not well known is the fact that 2055 01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,999 something strange happened about 1863 2056 01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,999 the South was winning war hands-down up 2057 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,999 until 1863 every battle they engaged the 2058 01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,999 north and they won as the north noted 2059 01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,999 and the historians have noted the 2060 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,999 generalship was superb in the south with 2061 01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,999 half the hardware in terms of guns and 2062 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,999 other military hardware that the North 2063 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:25,999 had the South was able to beat the pants 2064 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,999 off of them then in 1863 changed 2065 01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,999 suddenly I think was the Battle of 2066 01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:33,999 Antietam that gene turned around the 2067 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:35,999 north started winning and of course they 2068 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,999 beat more and more southern troops 2069 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,999 southern generals were changed and 2070 01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,999 there's a general retreat into the south 2071 01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:43,999 and of course and finally Sherman had 2072 01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:45,999 his march to the sea in which they 2073 01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:45,999 burned Atlanta 2074 01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:50,999 and the South was defeated according to 2075 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,999 the history books as we read today the 2076 01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,999 rest is history I don't need to go into 2077 01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,999 it suppose that were not what really 2078 01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:00,999 happens in the first place how would we 2079 01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,999 possibly know it how could we know it 2080 01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:05,999 because if there was a change made and 2081 01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:06,999 who won the war 2082 01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:09,999 then everything following on in the time 2083 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:11,999 field would be changed except perhaps 2084 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,999 off planet or except perhaps in one 2085 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:16,999 other item one other area which perhaps 2086 01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:18,999 you might not give too much credence to 2087 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,999 but is worth investigating what about 2088 01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:23,999 people who lived through the civil war 2089 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:28,999 died let's say 1880 1890 and reborn and 2090 01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,999 living today what would they remember if 2091 01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:33,999 you could probe their subconscious 2092 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:35,999 memories the memories from past lives 2093 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,999 and what would they say about who won 2094 01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,999 the Civil War I've heard a number of 2095 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:44,999 accounts and I have one very good friend 2096 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:49,999 in Arizona a lady friend who has told me 2097 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,999 in all of her psychic encounters and all 2098 01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:54,999 of our memories that she has been able 2099 01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:56,999 to pull out a past life she remembers 2100 01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:58,999 living through the Civil War era and 2101 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:00,999 when she died I was our memory that the 2102 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,999 South had won the Civil War and at the 2103 01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:05,999 capitol of the United States have been 2104 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:07,999 moved to Richmond Virginia and that 2105 01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:09,999 there was literally a line of 2106 01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:10,999 demarcation between the north and the 2107 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,999 south there was never totally unified 2108 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,999 after that of course that would be a 2109 01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:17,999 disaster for history as we know it today 2110 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,999 if that had happened because who knows 2111 01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,999 what the US would ever become a world 2112 01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:26,999 power as it is now but that is her 2113 01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,999 memory and I also have some friends who 2114 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,999 insist that they have taken part in time 2115 01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,999 engineering projects re-engineering 2116 01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:37,999 history that is going back into the past 2117 01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:40,999 and doing things which were perhaps in 2118 01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:42,999 most cases minor modifications I 2119 01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,999 wouldn't cause a great deal of impact on 2120 01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:46,999 our current civilization maybe very 2121 01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:48,999 little but where Corrections of some 2122 01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:50,999 kind or other one of these friends 2123 01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,999 insisted he was one of many teams sent 2124 01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,999 back from what time period I've yet to 2125 01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:58,999 find out I've been able to nail it down 2126 01:33:59,000 --> 01:33:59,999 and I'm 2127 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:01,999 to talk of them not much there are sent 2128 01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,999 back several teams male and female into 2129 01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:05,999 the year of about nineteen sixty two 2130 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,999 sixty 1862 1863 of the Civil War and 2131 01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,999 filtrate the south and become part of 2132 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:15,999 the General Staff the of the southern 2133 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:20,999 armies in the southern generalship well 2134 01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:21,999 they're on General Lee staff directly 2135 01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:23,999 and I don't know but they were well 2136 01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,999 unfilter ated and then their function 2137 01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,999 became not so obvious to the south but 2138 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:30,999 obvious in terms of results they gave 2139 01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:31,999 this information to the southern 2140 01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:35,999 military leaders as to the contents of 2141 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:37,999 the northern troops armaments etc etc 2142 01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,999 based on historical information they 2143 01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:41,999 have been given from the future if you 2144 01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,999 will and then the south started with 2145 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,999 losing battles one after the other and 2146 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:49,999 finally they won they no longer won the 2147 01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:51,999 war they had lost the war because of it 2148 01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,999 the history is reengineered our soto so 2149 01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:56,999 told mesa this one friend who was part 2150 01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,999 of one of the teams I don't find that 2151 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,999 impossible my own commentary on that is 2152 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,999 it's very possible because Lincoln as 2153 01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:07,999 president was faced with a terrible 2154 01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:09,999 quandary and I certainly would not want 2155 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,999 to have been in his position he was 2156 01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,999 quite a humanitarian he wanted to in 2157 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:16,999 slavery and of course slavery in the 2158 01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:18,999 South actually was ending any case the 2159 01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:20,999 war was not fought over slavery but 2160 01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:22,999 economic conditions the assault that 2161 01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:24,999 already freed a lot of slaves and many 2162 01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,999 of the former slaves black men had 2163 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:29,999 become plantation owners and were hiring 2164 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,999 if you will black slaves slavery had 2165 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:35,999 been cut off by the English government 2166 01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:37,999 at 1825 was no longer legal to ship 2167 01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,999 slaves on any English ship anyways in 2168 01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:42,999 the entire realm of England's which 2169 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:44,999 included the colonies or what were 2170 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,999 formerly the colonies in the United 2171 01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,999 States it was outlawed the only ones 2172 01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:52,999 left who were really engaging in slave 2173 01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:55,999 trade at that time were the New England 2174 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,999 business men now that sounds like a 2175 01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,999 strange comment but that is historically 2176 01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:04,999 correct to the best of my knowledge and 2177 01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:05,999 they were engaging in keeping us going 2178 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:07,999 because there was an extremely lookit 2179 01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:12,999 business a lot of money was made on it 2180 01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:14,999 but nevertheless there was a failing 2181 01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,999 institution before the war started the 2182 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,999 South was disengaging from slavery the 2183 01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,999 North or long since had and practical 2184 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:28,999 aspects but the war of course was still 2185 01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:30,999 fought and of course one of the other 2186 01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:32,999 one the history records now the North 2187 01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,999 won it will leave it at that because it 2188 01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,999 has made the United States a very strong 2189 01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:39,999 world power and I certainly would not 2190 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:41,999 wanted to have made some of the choices 2191 01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,999 which Lincoln did instituted the first 2192 01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:46,999 draft he became the first president in 2193 01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:51,999 history to have instituted the function 2194 01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:52,999 of the commander in chief and then 2195 01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:54,999 declare a national emergency and start 2196 01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:56,999 issuing executive orders he was the 2197 01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:57,999 first president in our history to do 2198 01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,999 this every president since then has they 2199 01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:01,999 don't want to let go of that little 2200 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:03,999 piece of power which says he can write 2201 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:05,999 an order which overrides Congress in the 2202 01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:08,999 Senate and he instituted the tax laws 2203 01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,999 the first ones in the country of course 2204 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:15,999 that resulted major riots were repealed 2205 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:17,999 but a lot has changed in our history and 2206 01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:19,999 a lot has changed behind the scenes 2207 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:20,999 historically that we are not aware of 2208 01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,999 and this business of tree engineering 2209 01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,999 history through manipulating of time may 2210 01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:29,999 not be functional today because the 2211 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:31,999 problems induced by doing this to an 2212 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,999 excessive amount but definitely has been 2213 01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,999 done and has continued up to nearly the 2214 01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,999 present time whether this will happen in 2215 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:41,999 the future or not I don't know 2216 01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,999 time travel still is functional in spite 2217 01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:46,999 of some people saying it is not and some 2218 01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:48,999 others saying it is totally impossible I 2219 01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:50,999 know the locations of some of the time 2220 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:52,999 operational equipment time tunnels if 2221 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,999 you will but I'm not about to reveal 2222 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:57,999 them I do have some respect for national 2223 01:37:58,000 --> 01:37:59,999 security in spite of what some people 2224 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:03,999 say but I think my comments are quite 2225 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:05,999 sufficient time travel from everything 2226 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:07,999 I've seen and having participated in it 2227 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:09,999 myself including some of the troops in 2228 01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,999 the past I know it works I know it's 2229 01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,999 real that's something which perhaps the 2230 01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:18,999 first time you do it is rather 2231 01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:20,999 overwhelming to understand what you are 2232 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:22,999 doing 2233 01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,999 what has being done it is not something 2234 01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:26,999 which the average person will ever 2235 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:27,999 experience 2236 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,999 whatever believed and those who are the 2237 01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:34,999 participants are very carefully chosen 172102

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