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Narrator: In the deep futureyou have merged with ai.
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You can communicatetelepathically.
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You can even choose tolive inside your computer
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if you want to.
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And while technology will bringextraordinary and unimaginable
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advances to the evolutionof the human body,
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nanobots won't be what protectsyou from the consequences of
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accelerated global warming.
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Nor can it protect you from anextinction event like this one.
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The only way to truly ensurehumanity's survival is to
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imagine acourse where we evolve as
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an interplanetary species.
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This is the story of how wepioneer the tech that will
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bring us to outer space.
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It's the deep future.
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Your body, gone.
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You're all computer,all the time.
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Your brain is waymore powerful than
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even a billionsupercomputers.
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Jobs, food, language, water,even traditional thought,
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all of humanity's buildingblocks, all that's done.
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And you are immortal.
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Squirming in your chair yet?
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You should be.
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This isn't science fiction.
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Today's visionary thinkers sayit's a strong probability that
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this is what your worldis going to look like.
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Tonight, they'll guide youtoward that spectacular future,
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and we'll see how onefamily navigates it,
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one invention at a time.
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This is the storyof your future.
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This is the roadto year million.
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The year million:A future period,
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not exactly a millionyears from now,
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but rather a time whenman and society will be so
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technologically advanced, it'snearly impossible to imagine.
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Michio Kaku: It stretches the
imagination to contemplate what
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the laws of physics will allow
a million years from now.
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Narrator: Let me putit to you this way.
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Your day-to-day life willsurpass anything you've seen on
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Star Trek.
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In this far-off time,
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earth is just one of theplanet's we'll inhabit.
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Peter Diamandis:
Stephen Hawking said,
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I don't think humanity has a
future unless we go into space.
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The danger from nuclear
war or asteroid strike,
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or existential threats
of those types, you know,
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all of our eggs
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We need to diversify.
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Narrator: And diversify meanswe must adapt or we will die.
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Baratunde Thurston: You know,
the planet's kind of falling
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apart, we're dying, like
disease, antibiotics,
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all this stuff is not
going the greatest.
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Negin Farsad: There's a bunch of
people who have their finger on
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the nuclear codes and they
are very dangerous people so a
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nuclear holocaust seems like a
really like possible reason that
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we'd have to leave earth.
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Narrator: But toget off the planet,
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we're going to need toget to space and fast.
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That is going to requirecollaboration on a global scale,
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the likes of which wehave never seen before.
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With earth buckling underan exploding population and
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enormous energy demands, takecomfort that the seeds of a
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revolution are sprouting aparadigm shift in how we care
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for our planet.
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We're also lookingtoward the heavens,
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breathing new life anda ton of money into an
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amped up space race
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led by an adventurousbreed of billionaire space
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pioneers who all want to bethe first to plant their flag
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on Mars and world's beyond.
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It's about survivalat all costs,
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whether it's on theplanet or off-world.
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So let me show you the roadto humanity's survival.
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First, we'll need to buy time.
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Our world is full of stuff,but in the future our stuff
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will become alive,programmable.
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Every single object on theplanet will be fully adaptable,
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and able to fight backagainst any natural disaster
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that could imperil us.
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But even so, the planet canonly sustain us for so long.
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So to save the human race,we're not only going to have
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to find ourselves anew rock to live on,
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we'll have to terraform it.
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As we humans evolve, whetherwe live forever or we climb
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into a computer, we are goingto need a lot more energy.
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So we'll need to build apower soaking megastructure
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called the Dyson sphere.
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The Dyson sphere willsurround the sun,
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absorb and store all itsenergy and power our technology
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throughout the solar system.
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This influx of energy willallow us to launch ourselves
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into the great beyond,exploring outer space.
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And finding resources to liveon throughout the galaxies.
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And when we voyage out there,you know what that means:
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We could run into aliens.
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Will they be friend or foe?
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To be honest, wereally don't know.
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Once we've taken control of allthe energy and matter in our
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solar system, our societywill mature even further.
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Becoming so advanced, thatscientists and Sci-Fi alike can
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barely bring into focuswhat our world will like.
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And before we getto that wildest,
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most far out future scenario,let's start here on earth with
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the transformation that ishappening all around us.
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Imagine you are anengineer trying to crack
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the code for our survival.
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You accidentallydrop a cup, it shatters.
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But then it reforms,into something else,
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something you need, likethe model of the wind turbine
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you've been sketching.
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Then, scale way on up, and youcan see how it becomes the tech
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that will save our coastlinesfrom imminent peril.
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Oscar: Did you hear
about Manhattan?
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Eva: Yeah, it washed away
in the latest storm surge.
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Oscar: Watch.
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Solar power.
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Enough to power half
of the east coast.
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Now in bad weather conditions,
it becomes a wind turbine.
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Which in turn becomes
a sea defense,
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capable of reacting to any
force that comes its way.
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The stronger the wave,
the stronger the wall.
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Eva: How?
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Oscar: Programmable matter.
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It works.
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Eva: This could
buy us some time?
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Narrator: So how do you getfrom a broken cup to having a
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world full of objectsthat can morph at the
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flick of a switch?
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Well, Sci-Fi hasalready imagined it.
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Rose Eveleth: The Sci-Fi that i
think is actually the closest on
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this is big hero 6.
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Where they have all these
little tiny nano metal thingies,
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and then you can
tell it to assemble.
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George Dvorsky: This matter
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super-flexible and take on any
form, any shape that it desires.
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Anders Sandberg:
Normal matter is dumb.
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I can't tell a silicon chip to
turn into a window or a wall.
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But what if it was composed
of smart machines that could
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respond to signals and
reorganize themselves.
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Well in that case, we
might have matter that you
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could actually program.
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Narrator: Welcome toprogrammable matter.
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Charles Soule: At
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when you have these technology
levels energy and matter become
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very fluid things.
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Like a rock is not a rock.
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A rock is, is raw
materials and fuel.
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It can become kind of
anything you want it to be.
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Skylar Tibbits: We know that
we have outdated and failing
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infrastructure,
roads, pipes, Bridges,
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and that's going to require
an investment in innovation.
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Because we don't just want
to build it the way it was.
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Narrator: At theself assembly lab,
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scientists are working oncreating matter that can
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transform itself into theshape of anything you need
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in any given moment.
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Skylar Tibbits: Our
infrastructure in the future
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should not just be
over-engineered and
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bulky and static.
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We've focused on
making materials that
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can transform physically.
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Narrator: You heard that right.
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Programmable matter will makeour roads and buildings tighten
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during an earthquakeso they won't crumble.
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It will make cities able towithstand the strong winds and
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rising tides of a hurricane.
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Once buildings are built,they will never break.
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Skylar Tibbits: There's a
number of examples that
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we could imagine.
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The roof can transform based on
wind or sun or rain and become
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stronger, flexible, more
porous, more waterproof.
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You know, adapting materials
can adapt to all sorts of crazy
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climate and weather
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Narrator: It's as if all thematerials in our world today
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are asleep and in thefuture they will wake up.
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Yet, whileprogrammable matter will
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be a game-changer,
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there is a universe whereit becomes just a band-aid.
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The fury of mother naturemight be too strong,
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even for an artificiallyintelligent climate crusader
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like our future daughter, Jess.
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Jess: We ran into some
obstacles in the engineering of
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the new bio-terrains.
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We knew we'd have to flood
some of this coastline,
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but we had to decide between
losing the city or losing
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everything on the peninsula.
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Narrator: The problemwith resources is that
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they are finite.
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Even in the future, wewill never have enough of
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them to go around.
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And when we decide who getsthem, there will be casualties.
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Jess: You okay, dad?
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Oscar: Yeah.
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Narrator: Jess was hoping thatprogrammable matter could help
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stop rising water levels.
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But she's finding out thehard way that it can't keep
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us safe forever.
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Whatever we do, at somepoint, the earth will become
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uninhabitable and that is whenwe'll have to leave the earth.
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We'll have to find a planetthat's kind of a fixer-upper.
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A place that humanscan terraform.
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Which means we will manipulateits ecosystem to make it
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habitable for us.
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But making an entire planetbend to our will is going to be
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anything but easy.
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Narrator: In the far future,natural disasters and some kind
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of horrific extinctionevent will make the
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earth completelyuninhabitable.
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So we will need a plan "b."
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Michio Kaku: As an insurance
policy against asteroid impacts,
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against super
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I think it's a good idea to
have a spare planet out there,
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in case we have doomsday
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Narrator: Good idea.
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But after we tackle thechallenge of finding a spare
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planet, we'll need to bringher up to human specs.
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And that my friendswill require some
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next-level engineering,which we call terraforming.
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Peter Diamandis: Our toolset for
actually engineering is becoming
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stronger and stronger.
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And of course, our toolset 30
years from now will be far more
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advanced, because we'll
have quantum computing that
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understands how to look
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We'll have AI to help
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We'll have nanotechnology.
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So the idea of actually
terraforming a planet is going
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to be, I don't want to use
this term, but you know,
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quite simple.
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Narrator: Simpleenough for you to say,
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but for the rest of us itstill feels like we're going
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to be building a pyramidfrom scratch, in space.
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Chuck Nice: Space is a
hostile place, people.
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It's a hostile place.
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Do I want to go live there?
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No, I like it right here on
earth where over a few billion
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years it has made things
extremely comfortable for me,
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and that's what I want.
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Narrator: If it's comfort youwant, it's comfort you'll get.
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In the future we'll be able tomodify a planet's atmosphere,
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temperature, and ecology, andwe'll also change ourselves to
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ensure that we not onlysurvive, but adapt and thrive.
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Negin Farsad: I'm going
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In terms of traveling
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I'm not a huge fan of the idea
because to put on a mask to
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breathe just doesn't sound
like a fun vacation to me.
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Narrator: The early daysof adjusting to a partially
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a bit uncomfortable.
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The first steps usually are;Just look at our series,
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"Mars" or "the martian".
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But believe it or not,the red planet is one of the
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closest tobeing move-in ready.
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George Dvorsky: What's exciting
about Mars is that it's within
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this happy zone in terms of
its distance from the sun.
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It has critical ingredients on
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terms of water and oxygen.
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Matt Mira: And it only takes 19
minutes for a radio signal to
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get back to earth so I would
never feel too disconnected from
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humanity and where it started,
and it seems like a good size
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and it seems like a good
place to start so I would get
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my ass to Mars.
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Narrator: Great.
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But how are we goingto get Matt to Mars?
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Let me take you a step furtherand show you one path to
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terraforming the red planet.
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First, we will beam energyat Mars' polar ice caps,
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heating the planet,and melting the ice.
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The melted ice willflow along the surface,
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and evaporate into the air.
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This will create a greenhouseeffect, warming the atmosphere.
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And it needs to warm a lot.
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The average temperaturecurrently on the planet
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is minus 80 fahrenheit.
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Not exactly balmy.
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But eventually, the climatewill heat up and the first
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colonists will use the waterto irrigate crops.
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We'll have food, water,energy, and land,
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Rose Eveleth: It would be
a huge endeavor, right?
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Just the engineering
question of getting.
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I mean, we don't send that
many people to space, right?
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Um, the idea of taking
humans, plural, up into space,
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I mean that is just an
incredible amount of energy and
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resources and planning,
and all of that.
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Narrator: Thinking aboutre-programming a whole planet
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seems impossible.
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But mankind has been movinginto hostile environments
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and making them habitablefor thousands of years.
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Look what happened to a smallbarren rock in the middle of
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the Atlantic ocean afterthe father of evolution
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made a pit stop.
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Sam weber: It's
like another world.
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When you come from the uk
or some other green nation,
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you land in the airfield amongst
the lava and the cinders,
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I've never been anywhere
quite like it before.
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In the 1830s, Charles Darwin
visited ascension on his voyage
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around the world on the beagle.
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It was very young, lots of
barren, volcanic lava flows.
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There was no natural
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have been Mars.
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He could breathe air there,but there was no edible food,
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and no fresh water.
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It was not habitable forhumans in the long term.
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Sam weber: Obviously, when
Darwin would visit this issue of
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trying to get water and
get food was the chief concern
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of the time, for the
military that were based here.
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Darwin would have
seen that himself.
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And after he returned to the
uk, the idea of vegetating green
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mountain to try and
increase the water supply,
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was gradually put together with
his great friend, Joseph hooker,
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who later became the
director of the royal
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botanic gardens at kew.
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they began bringing in
hundreds of species of plants,
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to vegetate the island.
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Narrator: Darwin and hookersent a Noah's ark of plants and
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trees, chosen totransform the island,
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and to create fresh water.
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to terraform aplace like Mars.
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Sam weber: Some species were
brought in to create pasture for
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cows, uh, and sheep.
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Other species were
brought in as wind breaks.
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And some, like this huge ficus
tree we can see behind us,
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were brought in to strip the
moisture out of these mists
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blowing across the
mountain, uh,
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which is dripping
down on us now.
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And uh, increase the
water supply in the
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Wells that they dug.
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Narrator: After two centuries,Ascension Island has been
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transformed, and Darwinand hooker's attempt at
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proto-terraforming the islandfor humans was a success.
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But, we can't ignore theflipside to terraforming a
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barren rock, with itsown native ecology.
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Sam weber: Well this
area where we are now in,
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in the mid-elevation regions
would have been incredibly
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barren when, when hooker and
Darwin first visited the island.
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Uh, much of the
low-lying plain around,
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around coastal regions were
coated in lava and ash fields.
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The introductions that Darwin
and hooker and others carried
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out fundamentally changed the
ecology of Ascension Island.
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Introduced species,
by their nature, they,
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they lack the normal controls
that were keeping them in check
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in their native habitats.
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they often run amok, uh,
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and can't exist in balance with
the ecosystems they invade.
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Narrator: On Mars orascension or anywhere, really,
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when you change an ecosystem,
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there will bewinners and losers.
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On ascension, humansmade the island livable,
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but at the expense ofthe natural habitat.
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Sam weber: Hooker knew what the
consequences of his actions were
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likely to be, but hooker
obviously made a value judgment
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at that time, securing water and
food was far more important than
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any kind of modern
conservation imperative.
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So he pressed ahead.
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It's always going to
be a problem when,
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when people's needs come
into conflict with wildlife.
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Narrator: What's the extinctionof a few plants compared with
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the extinction of humanity?
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Right?
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Well, not really.
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That's too short sighted.
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What creature waseating those ferns?
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And what predator waseating the creature that
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was eating those ferns?
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Will they all go extinct?
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And in the end, will thoseextinctions lead to our own?
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This likely won't bea problem on Mars.
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As far as we know, thereare no lifeforms there.
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But what if we need toterraform someplace else?
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Some futurists think option"b" might be Jupiter's moon,
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europa.
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Why?
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Because it looks like it couldbe covered in water and water
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means the possibility of life.
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Eva's scientific colleaguesare getting ready to set up a
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colony there and they'reputting the hard sell on
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her to join them.
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If europa is incubating lifein its waters, shouldn't Eva,
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a geneticist by trade,be rushing to work there?
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Eva: Why not just port there?
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It's not exactly welcoming
to biological life.
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Well, apart from the
biological forms in its oceans.
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Woman: Exactly.
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This is a geneticist's dream.
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Man: This is the only other
non-terrestrial life we've found
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in our galaxy so far.
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Man: We've been fantasizing
about this for decades.
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Eva: But what, what about
the radiation on europa,
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and the temperatures?
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Woman: We're not saying
there aren't risks.
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Man: We're saying,
it's worth it.
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Eva: I need to be here.
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Man: We'll call you
when we get there.
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Woman: Bye.
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Narrator: If we've learnedanything from Ascension Island,
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colonizing a place thathas existing life forms
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raises a lot of challengesboth practical and ethical.
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In another echo ofAscension Island,
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when we terraform europa,we run the risk of potentially
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destroying mirco-organismsthat could eventually evolve
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into intelligent life.
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Annalee Newitz: We're creatures
that evolved in the water,
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and that's why europa
seems so interesting,
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because we're fairly certain
that there is a massive ocean
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underneath a crust of ice.
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Unfortunately, the only way we
can find life is by drilling
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through the ice and putting
a robot in the water.
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So you know, uh,
what could go wrong?
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N.K. Jemisin: We're going
to this other world,
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and even with the
best of intentions,
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we might end up doing
kind of tremendous harm.
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Annalee Newitz: In the movie
2010, the sequel to 2001,
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there's an often-quoted moment
where the aliens say to the
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humans, all these worlds
are yours except europa.
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Attempt no landings there.
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Narrator: Not only couldwe end life on europa,
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one wrong move andeuropa could end us.
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A planet with life meansbiological hazards
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left and right.
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Forget little greenmen with ray guns,
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what we should really fear isa virus or germ that our bodies
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can't handle, an invasivespecies that invades us.
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Martin Rees: If we found
life, even simple life,
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we ought to not let it
contaminate us on earth.
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So we would treat any uh,
planet which turned out to have
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life on it, rather as
we treat the antarctic,
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as a sort of
natural wilderness.
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Annalee Newitz: One
of my hopes is that,
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as we move to other
planets or moons,
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that we always consider our work
to be not turning it into earth,
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but creating little pockets
of habitable space for humans,
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and huge areas that are
just the natural habitat.
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Because we don't want to make
the mistake that we've made on
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earth so many times, where we
go into a habitat that doesn't
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contain humans, and just
wreck all of the creatures
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that live there.
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Narrator: And europa isthe most likely place we
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would run into that life.
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And like any colonialcivilization,
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keeping the settlers safeis critical to our survival
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as a species.
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Eva's been examining the genesof europa's settler remotely,
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since they landed.
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And it looks likethere's a problem.
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Eva: Oh, stop.
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Oscar: What?
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Eva: It's mutated.
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Oscar: Is that bad?
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Eva: That's catastrophic.
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It's an extremely delicate
ecosystem which we're trying to
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leave unscathed.
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And if we don't
contain it, we.
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Okay, compose message
to the europa colony.
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Status, urgent.
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Please implement, stat.
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For your safety and the
well-being of europa.
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Stay safe, guys.
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Who knew it would be this
easy to change the world, huh?
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Narrator: Survival deeper anddeeper into the cosmos won't
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always be welcoming.
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Even though the human racewill ultimately thrive,
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there may be casualtiesalong the way.
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Space, it'sdangerous out there!
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We've left earth,terraformed Mars,
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and encountered life in thedepth's of europa's crust.
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All that space explorationand travel doesn't come
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without a cost.
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And much of that costwill likely need to be
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paid in energy!
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And we'll get that energyfrom a huge megastructure
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called a Dyson sphere...
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That we will buildaround the sun.
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Narrator: If we'velearned anything so far,
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it's that making the solarsystem habitable for future
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humans is no small feat.
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Our existence will become soadvanced and complex that we
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are going to need energyon a level that our brains
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have only begun to imagine.
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Brian Greene: As we look
at technological growth,
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we find that it's
increasing exponentially.
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But of course, then the
power needs are going up
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exponentially, too.
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So you can look into
the future and say,
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where are we ever going to
muster the kind of power that
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we'll need in the far future?
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We can't get it just
on planet earth.
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So you go to a nearby object
that has enough power to meet
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your needs, which
would be the sun.
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Charles Soule: Every star is
potentially a source of energy,
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every star in the sky is
something that we could use
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within our civilization
to advance ourselves.
496
00:25:39,571 --> 00:25:41,705
Rose Eveleth: If we had the
ability to get all of the energy
497
00:25:41,740 --> 00:25:44,541
of our sun and use it, we would
solve so many conflicts that are
498
00:25:44,576 --> 00:25:45,842
existing right now.
499
00:25:45,877 --> 00:25:47,611
There wouldn't be the
need to drill for oil,
500
00:25:47,646 --> 00:25:50,748
there wouldn't be the
need to burn coal.
501
00:25:52,117 --> 00:25:54,051
Narrator: Drilling for oil andburning coal will seem like the
502
00:25:54,086 --> 00:25:56,620
stuff of cave men.
503
00:25:56,655 --> 00:25:58,889
When we harness thepower of the sun,
504
00:25:58,924 --> 00:26:01,058
the once limitedresource of energy will
505
00:26:01,093 --> 00:26:03,661
now become near unlimited.
506
00:26:04,596 --> 00:26:06,897
We'll have one lessthing to fight wars over,
507
00:26:06,932 --> 00:26:09,900
and our ever-expanding populacewill always be able to keep the
508
00:26:09,935 --> 00:26:12,102
lights on, indefinitely.
509
00:26:13,171 --> 00:26:15,940
Enter the Dyson sphere.
510
00:26:18,610 --> 00:26:22,913
Brian Greene: A Dyson sphere is
an idea that Freeman Dyson put
511
00:26:22,948 --> 00:26:25,248
forward a long time ago.
512
00:26:25,283 --> 00:26:28,251
And the idea simply is, you've
got a star out there, this big,
513
00:26:28,286 --> 00:26:31,956
burning nuclear furnace,
150 million kilometers away.
514
00:26:32,991 --> 00:26:36,293
Why not encase it in a
big sphere, if you will,
515
00:26:37,629 --> 00:26:39,596
that can capture all the
energy that otherwise would
516
00:26:39,631 --> 00:26:42,799
just stream off into space.
517
00:26:42,834 --> 00:26:46,169
Annalee Newitz: So you literally
build a shell around the sun,
518
00:26:46,204 --> 00:26:48,438
and live on the
inside of the shell.
519
00:26:48,473 --> 00:26:52,809
And that way, you can suck up
every single possible photon and
520
00:26:52,844 --> 00:26:55,679
convert it into energy
for your civilization.
521
00:26:55,714 --> 00:26:57,614
Baratunde Thurston:
Our creativity,
522
00:26:57,649 --> 00:26:59,683
married to technology, will
find new sources of energy,
523
00:26:59,718 --> 00:27:02,285
and we'll be able to harness
power from the sun in a way that
524
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,587
we couldn't imagine yet.
525
00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:05,922
Chuck Nice: So fear not, people.
526
00:27:05,957 --> 00:27:06,823
It's okay.
527
00:27:06,858 --> 00:27:08,125
I'm lying.
528
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,960
I'm scared to death.
529
00:27:10,495 --> 00:27:12,195
Narrator: Building somethingas big and complicated as the
530
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:14,298
Dyson sphere is a little scary.
531
00:27:15,834 --> 00:27:18,869
But what will our solarpowered civilization look like?
532
00:27:18,904 --> 00:27:21,638
Will we even stillhave human forms?
533
00:27:21,673 --> 00:27:25,542
Some futurists thinks the Dysonsphere will be used to power up
534
00:27:25,577 --> 00:27:29,046
the metaverse, the reallife matrix computer world
535
00:27:29,081 --> 00:27:31,348
we may all eventuallylive inside of.
536
00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:35,118
Charles Soule: And we're
living inside this box,
537
00:27:35,153 --> 00:27:37,988
orbiting the sun, all
of human consciousness,
538
00:27:38,023 --> 00:27:40,891
all of us put together in this
beautiful puddle of minds.
539
00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:43,360
It sounds like,
it's magic, right?
540
00:27:43,395 --> 00:27:45,829
It's when magic and science
become kind of the same thing.
541
00:27:45,864 --> 00:27:48,532
Narrator: Whether we will behuman bodies or human code
542
00:27:48,567 --> 00:27:50,500
we're going toneed big energy,
543
00:27:50,535 --> 00:27:54,171
and big science to makea Dyson sphere because
544
00:27:54,206 --> 00:27:56,707
it's just so big.
545
00:27:58,243 --> 00:28:01,278
Current human life uses about15 trillion watts of power.
546
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,681
A Dyson spherecould be able to extract
547
00:28:04,716 --> 00:28:08,585
4 times 10 to the26 watts of power.
548
00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:11,588
That's 26 zeros after the one.
549
00:28:11,623 --> 00:28:13,590
Think about that for a moment.
550
00:28:13,625 --> 00:28:15,826
26.
551
00:28:15,861 --> 00:28:18,028
Still going.
552
00:28:18,463 --> 00:28:20,263
Rose Eveleth: I mean, just
like the scale at which
553
00:28:20,298 --> 00:28:21,598
this exists, right.
554
00:28:21,633 --> 00:28:23,600
The, if, this is bigger
than a death star.
555
00:28:23,635 --> 00:28:26,336
This is bigger than like, you
know, like that's no moon, no,
556
00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:28,672
that's no sun, like it's huge.
557
00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:31,441
Narrator: The Dysonsphere would be enormous,
558
00:28:31,476 --> 00:28:34,611
a gigantic globe that wouldinclude not only the earth,
559
00:28:34,646 --> 00:28:37,614
but every planetbetween us and the sun.
560
00:28:38,817 --> 00:28:41,451
The Dyson sphere would becapable of powering all of the
561
00:28:41,486 --> 00:28:44,588
tech inside of it,and even outside of it.
562
00:28:45,791 --> 00:28:48,291
Remember that colonywe set up on europa?
563
00:28:48,326 --> 00:28:50,961
It may be outsidethe Dyson sphere,
564
00:28:50,996 --> 00:28:54,565
but it's still using itas a giant super battery.
565
00:28:56,101 --> 00:28:58,401
So how are we going tostart the biggest construction
566
00:28:58,436 --> 00:29:01,939
job ever attempted in thehistory of the known universe?
567
00:29:03,775 --> 00:29:07,077
The Dyson sphere is 600million times bigger than the
568
00:29:07,112 --> 00:29:11,248
surface of earth, so thatmeans we need more matter than
569
00:29:11,283 --> 00:29:13,450
we have on this planet.
570
00:29:14,019 --> 00:29:16,687
We will have to findwhat we need out in space,
571
00:29:17,289 --> 00:29:19,757
from other planetsand on asteroids,
572
00:29:20,192 --> 00:29:23,193
which are chock fullof iron and other metals.
573
00:29:23,862 --> 00:29:25,762
Rose Eveleth: Asteroid mining
is the next big thing in space.
574
00:29:25,797 --> 00:29:28,465
I mean, they're already, NASA
is building big nets to catch
575
00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:31,501
asteroids, to mine them.
576
00:29:31,536 --> 00:29:33,503
Charles Soule: If we can
just, like, bring, like,
577
00:29:33,538 --> 00:29:36,473
asteroid mining online and,
and can just access all of that
578
00:29:36,508 --> 00:29:39,276
stuff out there, then we could
build an entirely new society.
579
00:29:39,311 --> 00:29:42,145
Narrator: But there's apotential wrinkle with mining
580
00:29:42,180 --> 00:29:44,748
asteroids: Whoowns these huge,
581
00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:46,683
potentiallylucrative gold mines?
582
00:29:47,185 --> 00:29:49,452
Whoever gets there first.
583
00:29:49,487 --> 00:29:51,788
Peter Diamandis: And some of
the asteroids we have targeted
584
00:29:51,823 --> 00:29:54,991
are half a kilometer in size,
and they're on the open market,
585
00:29:55,026 --> 00:29:57,527
trillion-dollar assets.
586
00:29:57,562 --> 00:29:58,995
Rose Eveleth: We've already
had a couple of political
587
00:29:59,030 --> 00:30:00,096
fights about the moon, right.
588
00:30:00,131 --> 00:30:01,431
We need the moon.
589
00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:03,533
If somebody messes up the
moon, it's a big problem.
590
00:30:03,568 --> 00:30:05,635
So there's already sort of
treaties about how the moon is
591
00:30:05,670 --> 00:30:06,670
kind of off-limits.
592
00:30:06,705 --> 00:30:08,471
But asteroids are not.
593
00:30:08,506 --> 00:30:10,207
And so I think that we're going
to see some really interesting
594
00:30:10,242 --> 00:30:13,710
geopolitical conflicts
over asteroids.
595
00:30:13,745 --> 00:30:16,012
Narrator: Besides asteroids,we can also plunder the
596
00:30:16,047 --> 00:30:18,515
resources of a few planets.
597
00:30:18,550 --> 00:30:20,450
George Dvorsky:
Mercury and Venus.
598
00:30:20,485 --> 00:30:22,285
These planets are dead,
there's no life on it,
599
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,154
they really serve no purpose
and it'll be exceptionally
600
00:30:24,189 --> 00:30:25,555
difficult to terraform them.
601
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:26,790
Mercury, in particular.
602
00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:29,793
So why not use that
mass for our needs?
603
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:32,863
Narrator: It's a solarsystem-wide renovation.
604
00:30:32,898 --> 00:30:35,532
Here's how it will work.
605
00:30:35,567 --> 00:30:38,735
First we'll build a factoryon the surface of Mercury.
606
00:30:39,604 --> 00:30:41,571
Robots will meltand manufacture materials
607
00:30:41,606 --> 00:30:43,340
for solar panels,
608
00:30:43,375 --> 00:30:45,876
that will help power evenmore and more production.
609
00:30:47,512 --> 00:30:50,146
Next, we launch thesesolar panels into space,
610
00:30:50,181 --> 00:30:53,016
position them in placearound the sun to form the
611
00:30:53,051 --> 00:30:55,719
massive Dyson sphere.
612
00:30:57,355 --> 00:30:59,356
Anders Sandberg: So you would
start by putting an automated
613
00:30:59,391 --> 00:31:01,091
factory on the surface.
614
00:31:01,126 --> 00:31:04,527
Solar powered, it churns out
robots to dig up material,
615
00:31:04,562 --> 00:31:07,898
melt it together to make more
solar panels and more robots and
616
00:31:07,933 --> 00:31:09,699
more mining equipment.
617
00:31:09,734 --> 00:31:12,535
After a while, you've covered
much of the surface of Mercury
618
00:31:12,570 --> 00:31:14,704
with these factories.
619
00:31:14,739 --> 00:31:17,908
Then we start making launch
devices to launch solar panels
620
00:31:17,943 --> 00:31:19,609
into space.
621
00:31:19,644 --> 00:31:22,012
Narrator: We'll have accessto nearly unlimited energy
622
00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:24,214
and this floatingsphere will allow production
623
00:31:24,249 --> 00:31:26,416
to speed up exponentially.
624
00:31:27,085 --> 00:31:29,052
George Dvorsky: You'll start to
see the entire sun enveloped by
625
00:31:29,087 --> 00:31:31,788
this massive bubble
of solar panels.
626
00:31:31,823 --> 00:31:34,357
And, from an outside observer,
the sun will largely have been
627
00:31:34,392 --> 00:31:36,760
extinguished, because
now, inside that zone,
628
00:31:36,795 --> 00:31:39,062
we're capturing all of the
solar energy available,
629
00:31:39,097 --> 00:31:41,731
through the Dyson sphere, to
be able to power it and supply,
630
00:31:41,766 --> 00:31:43,900
you know, our civilization
with its energy needs.
631
00:31:43,935 --> 00:31:47,904
Chuck Nice: Hopefully we will
have, I'm going to say it,
632
00:31:47,939 --> 00:31:50,707
flying cars.
633
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:53,877
Narrator: I know, it does seemlike this giant sphere is just
634
00:31:53,912 --> 00:31:56,613
as fantastical as a flying car.
635
00:31:56,648 --> 00:32:00,017
But it's the most logical andefficient use of a star's power
636
00:32:00,585 --> 00:32:03,620
that humanity has dreamed up.
637
00:32:03,655 --> 00:32:08,458
And, in 2015, researchers atSETI noticed a star whose light
638
00:32:08,493 --> 00:32:10,727
flickers mysteriously.
639
00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:14,664
Some theorize that the lightpattern indicates that the star
640
00:32:14,699 --> 00:32:17,634
is surroundedby a Dyson sphere.
641
00:32:19,537 --> 00:32:21,638
That's how much some membersof the scientific community
642
00:32:21,673 --> 00:32:24,474
believe an advancecivilization would depend on
643
00:32:24,509 --> 00:32:27,577
this kind of megastructure.
644
00:32:27,612 --> 00:32:29,779
But with anything this big,it's likely we may have to do
645
00:32:29,814 --> 00:32:31,748
a little troubleshootingalong the way.
646
00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:37,153
Brian Greene: One of the issues
with a Dyson sphere is that it
647
00:32:37,188 --> 00:32:40,757
will warm up, because
it's surrounding the sun,
648
00:32:40,792 --> 00:32:44,294
and then it will start to
radiate energy in its own right.
649
00:32:45,663 --> 00:32:48,932
Do you just let that energy
itself now go off into space and
650
00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:51,968
be wasted, or do you have
another sphere that captures the
651
00:32:52,003 --> 00:32:56,006
waste energy of the first
sphere, and make use of it.
652
00:32:56,808 --> 00:32:58,475
Narrator: So we'llhave a sphere outside the
653
00:32:58,510 --> 00:33:02,112
Dyson sphere that will suckup every last bit of energy.
654
00:33:02,147 --> 00:33:04,280
And we'll need it oncewe are so technologically
655
00:33:04,315 --> 00:33:06,850
advanced that everybit of power will count.
656
00:33:08,153 --> 00:33:11,721
But at some point thesun's energy not going to
657
00:33:11,756 --> 00:33:14,190
be enough energy.
658
00:33:14,225 --> 00:33:17,060
Mars and Mercury willrun out of resources.
659
00:33:17,095 --> 00:33:20,463
And all of us,include Eva and Oscar,
660
00:33:20,498 --> 00:33:23,967
who have digitallyuploaded to the metaverse,
661
00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:26,236
will have to makethe hardest of choices and
662
00:33:26,271 --> 00:33:28,338
abandon earthonce and for all.
663
00:33:33,445 --> 00:33:36,913
Eva: We must maximize
our energy efficiency.
664
00:33:37,348 --> 00:33:39,983
We don't have the materials.
665
00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:43,053
Mercury will be gone by
the time we're done here.
666
00:33:43,088 --> 00:33:45,355
Oscar: We can move onto Venus.
667
00:33:45,390 --> 00:33:47,524
Mine it, too.
668
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:49,626
And then, after?
669
00:33:51,062 --> 00:33:52,996
Eva: Are you sure?
670
00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:54,431
Oscar: Well, if we don't
have enough resources,
671
00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:56,366
we might have to.
672
00:33:56,401 --> 00:33:58,535
Eva: But, that's our home.
673
00:33:58,570 --> 00:34:00,703
Oscar: It was.
674
00:34:00,738 --> 00:34:03,106
But we've moved on.
675
00:34:03,808 --> 00:34:06,543
And those who haven't,
we can relocate.
676
00:34:12,450 --> 00:34:14,384
Narrator: It will be a sadmoment when we have to leave
677
00:34:14,419 --> 00:34:16,286
our planet behind.
678
00:34:16,321 --> 00:34:18,455
But sincewe'll all be digital,
679
00:34:18,490 --> 00:34:22,159
we don'treally need it to exist.
680
00:34:22,827 --> 00:34:25,462
So where doeshumanity go from here?
681
00:34:25,964 --> 00:34:27,630
How do you level up whenyou have colonized the entire
682
00:34:27,665 --> 00:34:31,301
solar system andbecome post-human?
683
00:34:31,836 --> 00:34:34,904
Brian Greene: The natural next
step, beyond Dyson spheres,
684
00:34:34,939 --> 00:34:37,441
if we're able to harness the
energy of individual stars,
685
00:34:38,943 --> 00:34:41,845
would be to harness the
energy of the galaxy.
686
00:34:44,282 --> 00:34:46,816
Narrator: One of the reasons wefight over resources is because
687
00:34:46,851 --> 00:34:48,885
of the question of ownership.
688
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,488
One country has oil, theother country wants it.
689
00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:53,990
But once we start lookingbeyond our solar system
690
00:34:54,025 --> 00:34:55,825
for resources,
691
00:34:55,860 --> 00:34:59,562
the question of who owns whatgets a little more interesting.
692
00:34:59,597 --> 00:35:01,564
Annalee Newitz: Say we use
up our whole solar system,
693
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,633
and then we say, alright,
well, we used up the whole
694
00:35:03,668 --> 00:35:05,602
solar system, let's
go over to, you know,
695
00:35:05,637 --> 00:35:07,303
the next solar system.
696
00:35:07,338 --> 00:35:11,141
Eventually, we are going
to run into a civilization,
697
00:35:11,176 --> 00:35:16,279
or even just lifeforms, that
are actually using that matter.
698
00:35:16,314 --> 00:35:18,281
N. K. Jemisin: If we decide,
as a species, yeah, alright,
699
00:35:18,316 --> 00:35:20,850
let's, let's turn Mercury
into a lawn, I don't think
700
00:35:20,885 --> 00:35:22,652
that's a huge problem.
701
00:35:22,687 --> 00:35:24,954
It's when we go somewhere else,
where there are other people,
702
00:35:24,989 --> 00:35:27,790
where we're like, hey, let's
turn their Mercury into a lawn.
703
00:35:27,825 --> 00:35:29,092
And they're like,
"no, we actually really
704
00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:30,360
like that Mercury.
705
00:35:30,395 --> 00:35:32,328
Could you not?"
706
00:35:32,363 --> 00:35:34,030
Narrator: We'veleft our planet.
707
00:35:34,065 --> 00:35:36,432
We've claimedand mined others.
708
00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:39,269
We've harnessed thecomplete energy of the sun.
709
00:35:39,304 --> 00:35:42,005
But we've done it alone,and on our own terms.
710
00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:45,742
But eventually, we'renot going to be alone.
711
00:35:49,547 --> 00:35:51,981
Once we expand ourreach as a civilization,
712
00:35:52,016 --> 00:35:53,983
who will we meet?
713
00:35:54,018 --> 00:35:56,920
And will they behappy to see us?
714
00:36:05,697 --> 00:36:08,965
Narrator: Earth has becomeunlivable because of a disaster
715
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,068
or just wear and tearand we now live somewhere
716
00:36:12,103 --> 00:36:14,571
in outer space.
717
00:36:14,606 --> 00:36:16,873
So far, it's justus humans out there,
718
00:36:16,908 --> 00:36:19,209
but it mightnot always be so.
719
00:36:19,244 --> 00:36:21,744
We're bound to run into someweird-looking alien creatures
720
00:36:21,779 --> 00:36:23,813
on one planetor another, right?
721
00:36:23,848 --> 00:36:25,248
Martin Rees: It's such
a fascinating question.
722
00:36:25,283 --> 00:36:26,883
It's the question
I'm most often asked,
723
00:36:26,918 --> 00:36:28,718
when people know
I'm an astronomer.
724
00:36:28,753 --> 00:36:31,854
The question, whether we
are alone in the universe,
725
00:36:31,889 --> 00:36:34,691
or whether there's
other intelligence.
726
00:36:34,726 --> 00:36:38,361
There are billions
of earth-like planets orbiting
727
00:36:38,396 --> 00:36:40,430
other stars in our galaxy.
728
00:36:40,465 --> 00:36:43,499
And many of them
could harbor life.
729
00:36:43,534 --> 00:36:45,868
Narrator: Billions ofearth-like planets?
730
00:36:45,903 --> 00:36:48,104
Well, then it does seemlikely that we are not alone.
731
00:36:50,074 --> 00:36:52,709
Imagining what the aliens looklike out here has practically
732
00:36:52,744 --> 00:36:54,611
become a cottageindustry for Sci-Fi.
733
00:36:56,414 --> 00:36:58,881
Matt Mira: Nothing terrified
me more as a kid than those
734
00:36:58,916 --> 00:37:02,185
gray aliens that I would
see on "unsolved mysteries".
735
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:05,188
Where people would get
abducted, you know?
736
00:37:05,223 --> 00:37:09,559
"Unsolved mysteries", you play
the music and if you are my age
737
00:37:09,594 --> 00:37:13,897
you're terrified of either being
abducted by step parents or
738
00:37:14,399 --> 00:37:16,766
being abducted by aliens.
739
00:37:16,801 --> 00:37:19,535
Negin Farsad: I saw the movie
"arrival" and like I liked the
740
00:37:19,570 --> 00:37:23,907
idea of aliens just sort of
like forming in your face.
741
00:37:25,009 --> 00:37:26,242
Like, they're not like,
742
00:37:26,277 --> 00:37:28,811
"hello, shake my
hand, I'm an alien."
743
00:37:28,846 --> 00:37:31,447
Chuck Nice: I like the alien
alien with the mouth out of the
744
00:37:31,482 --> 00:37:33,816
mouth and his like little
teeny mouth that comes,
745
00:37:33,851 --> 00:37:35,551
and why do you need
that, honestly?
746
00:37:35,586 --> 00:37:37,887
That's just a little
gratuitous, but who cares?
747
00:37:37,922 --> 00:37:39,589
It's awesome.
748
00:37:41,492 --> 00:37:43,726
Narrator: So why hasn'tMr. Spock, or alf,
749
00:37:43,761 --> 00:37:46,095
or Chewbacca come downhere to have a drink with us
750
00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:47,664
at the cantina?
751
00:37:47,699 --> 00:37:49,666
Futurists all havedifferent theories!
752
00:37:50,468 --> 00:37:51,801
Matt Mira: I don't
know if there's any alien
753
00:37:51,836 --> 00:37:53,169
life out there.
754
00:37:53,204 --> 00:37:55,171
The numbers tell
us it should be,
755
00:37:55,206 --> 00:37:58,341
but if there is intelligent
life, then where is it?
756
00:37:58,676 --> 00:38:00,443
We should have seen it by now.
757
00:38:00,478 --> 00:38:02,578
It should have contacted us.
758
00:38:02,613 --> 00:38:04,847
Anders Sandberg: A disturbing
possibility might be that
759
00:38:04,882 --> 00:38:07,017
intelligence is
actually fairly common,
760
00:38:07,552 --> 00:38:10,453
but it just doesn't
last very long.
761
00:38:10,488 --> 00:38:13,823
The milky way is literally
more than 10 billion years old.
762
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:16,492
There could have
been intelligence,
763
00:38:16,527 --> 00:38:18,695
billions of years ago,
and we would not be able to
764
00:38:18,730 --> 00:38:20,630
see the traces.
765
00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:23,132
Charles Soule: But the odds of
that our civilization is going
766
00:38:23,167 --> 00:38:26,302
to have started roughly around
the same time as theirs did and
767
00:38:26,337 --> 00:38:28,104
it's going to be close enough
for us to sort of, like,
768
00:38:28,139 --> 00:38:29,839
get in contact with
each other, to me,
769
00:38:29,874 --> 00:38:31,908
the odds seem extraordinarily
high against it.
770
00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:35,011
Rose Eveleth: It's just
such a huge universe.
771
00:38:35,046 --> 00:38:37,313
Of course it's hard
to find other things.
772
00:38:37,348 --> 00:38:39,449
Maybe they're having this
exact same conversation, right,
773
00:38:39,484 --> 00:38:41,217
where they're saying,
where is everybody else,
774
00:38:41,252 --> 00:38:43,486
like what's going on?
775
00:38:43,521 --> 00:38:45,788
Narrator: Either that we missedeach other by a few billion
776
00:38:45,823 --> 00:38:47,991
years or a fewbillion light years.
777
00:38:49,060 --> 00:38:51,494
And there are otherpossibilities.
778
00:38:51,529 --> 00:38:53,897
Oscar and Eva have decidedto live in the metaverse.
779
00:38:54,866 --> 00:38:56,899
Who's to say that other alienspecies haven't decided to do
780
00:38:56,934 --> 00:38:58,801
the same themselves?
781
00:38:58,836 --> 00:39:00,837
Could that be theeventual end point for
782
00:39:00,872 --> 00:39:03,606
all intelligent life?
783
00:39:05,209 --> 00:39:07,176
Philip rosedale: Maybe, as
soon as everybody becomes smart
784
00:39:07,211 --> 00:39:09,145
enough, they just
build virtual worlds,
785
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:11,180
and they don't spend that
much time flying around,
786
00:39:11,215 --> 00:39:12,749
looking at all
these other worlds.
787
00:39:12,784 --> 00:39:16,085
If virtual worlds folded up
inside of computers represent
788
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,421
such a vast space
of possibilities,
789
00:39:18,456 --> 00:39:21,557
then logically speaking, the
aliens wouldn't necessarily hang
790
00:39:21,592 --> 00:39:24,594
out here that much, because here
is a kind of an almost empty
791
00:39:24,629 --> 00:39:26,796
desert, where there's
very little life at all.
792
00:39:27,565 --> 00:39:29,832
Maybe we're about to start
doing the same thing.
793
00:39:29,867 --> 00:39:33,336
Maybe we'll never go that far
into space, or that many of us,
794
00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:35,905
because we just kind of
go inside the computers.
795
00:39:37,308 --> 00:39:39,942
Narrator: So maybe aliens areliving on a computer cloud
796
00:39:39,977 --> 00:39:41,878
millions and millionsof miles away,
797
00:39:41,913 --> 00:39:43,946
living theirbest virtual lives.
798
00:39:43,981 --> 00:39:46,682
But who's to say we wouldeven recognize alien life if
799
00:39:46,717 --> 00:39:48,217
we saw it?
800
00:39:48,252 --> 00:39:51,988
And who's to say that alienlife would even recognize us?
801
00:39:52,590 --> 00:39:54,791
Martin Rees: I do worry about
the extent to which we are
802
00:39:54,826 --> 00:39:57,127
limited by the capacity
of our own brain.
803
00:39:58,162 --> 00:40:01,130
We have to bear in mind that
there could be some aspects of
804
00:40:01,165 --> 00:40:04,000
reality which our brains
will never understand.
805
00:40:05,570 --> 00:40:07,904
Matt Mira: There's the theory
that it has contacted us,
806
00:40:07,939 --> 00:40:10,640
and we were too dumb to
understand what it was saying.
807
00:40:10,675 --> 00:40:12,408
Narrator: It's possiblealiens just don't want to
808
00:40:12,443 --> 00:40:14,143
hang out with us.
809
00:40:14,178 --> 00:40:16,279
Do they not thinkwe're cool enough?
810
00:40:16,314 --> 00:40:18,614
We have iPhones andwe're on our way to having
811
00:40:18,649 --> 00:40:20,850
a Dyson sphere,so what gives?
812
00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:25,922
Brian Greene: You know,
when we walk by an ant hill,
813
00:40:25,957 --> 00:40:28,024
we don't feel compelled to
go have dinner with the ants.
814
00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:31,160
They're not that
interesting to us.
815
00:40:31,195 --> 00:40:33,262
And if there is this advanced
civilization out there,
816
00:40:33,297 --> 00:40:35,431
we're like the ants.
817
00:40:35,466 --> 00:40:36,732
Why would they come?
818
00:40:36,767 --> 00:40:37,900
For what reason?
819
00:40:37,935 --> 00:40:40,336
Not enough pull.
820
00:40:40,371 --> 00:40:42,372
Nothing compelling here
for them to come and visit.
821
00:40:44,008 --> 00:40:45,441
Narrator: Well, evenif the aliens don't find
822
00:40:45,476 --> 00:40:48,011
us compelling,I am not too offended.
823
00:40:48,546 --> 00:40:50,112
I'd say we'vegrown exponentially
824
00:40:50,147 --> 00:40:52,081
as a civilization.
825
00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:54,851
We've even made ourentire solar system our home.
826
00:40:54,886 --> 00:40:56,786
We may or may nothave met aliens,
827
00:40:56,821 --> 00:40:59,956
but we have definitelyharnessed or used up every bit
828
00:40:59,991 --> 00:41:02,125
of power and matterwe have available to us.
829
00:41:03,127 --> 00:41:06,062
But when we've done theseincredible things, what next?
830
00:41:08,733 --> 00:41:11,267
Turns out advancedcivilization can,
831
00:41:11,302 --> 00:41:15,004
in the immortal wordsof "spinal tap", 'go to 11.'
832
00:41:15,740 --> 00:41:17,974
it's up tous to imagine how.
833
00:41:24,715 --> 00:41:26,382
Narrator: So, we've arrived.
834
00:41:26,417 --> 00:41:28,551
Humankind is now asolar-system-spanning
835
00:41:28,586 --> 00:41:31,053
civilization, withcolonies across multiple
836
00:41:31,088 --> 00:41:32,889
planets and moons.
837
00:41:32,924 --> 00:41:36,792
We've colonized spaceand prolonged the human race.
838
00:41:36,827 --> 00:41:39,362
The crazy part is: We're onlyhalfway to achieving the full
839
00:41:39,397 --> 00:41:43,199
imagined potential of any race.
840
00:41:43,234 --> 00:41:45,368
Rose Eveleth: A civilization
can sometimes be judged by how
841
00:41:45,403 --> 00:41:48,004
efficient it uses its energy,
and there is this concept that
842
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:51,073
sort of ranks civilizations
based on how much energy they
843
00:41:51,108 --> 00:41:53,976
can get from their
sun or suns around it.
844
00:41:54,011 --> 00:41:55,978
Narrator: According toSoviet astrophysicist,
845
00:41:56,013 --> 00:41:58,681
Nikolai Kardashev,civilizations can be ranked
846
00:41:58,716 --> 00:42:00,950
according to how much energythey have at their disposal.
847
00:42:01,886 --> 00:42:04,687
He created a three-tieredscale to define and
848
00:42:04,722 --> 00:42:06,689
measure howadvanced a society is.
849
00:42:09,627 --> 00:42:11,994
Anders Sandberg: The Kardashev
scale is a kind of shorthand for
850
00:42:12,029 --> 00:42:14,397
looking at the sizes or
powers of civilizations.
851
00:42:15,099 --> 00:42:19,135
So a level I civilization uses
all the energy on the planet.
852
00:42:20,404 --> 00:42:21,904
Brian Greene: The
next step would be hey,
853
00:42:21,939 --> 00:42:25,074
can you go further and
harness all of the sun's energy.
854
00:42:25,810 --> 00:42:28,210
That's what a Dyson
sphere ultimately would be.
855
00:42:28,245 --> 00:42:30,947
They'd be a, a billion times
more efficient at grabbing the
856
00:42:30,982 --> 00:42:33,716
sun's energy than we
can possibly do here on
857
00:42:33,751 --> 00:42:35,919
our lonely planet earth.
858
00:42:37,455 --> 00:42:39,622
Narrator: And the thirdlevel would be beyond the
859
00:42:39,657 --> 00:42:43,092
Dyson sphere, wherewe'd figure out how to suck up
860
00:42:43,127 --> 00:42:45,662
all the energy in the galaxy.
861
00:42:46,263 --> 00:42:48,931
Right now, humansaren't even at a level one.
862
00:42:48,966 --> 00:42:52,402
And we've only imagined up tolevel two in science fiction.
863
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:55,571
Anders Sandberg: One could
compare the Kardashev scale to
864
00:42:55,606 --> 00:42:57,306
some pop culture references.
865
00:42:57,341 --> 00:43:00,910
So imagine coruscant, a city
that covers an entire planet in
866
00:43:00,945 --> 00:43:02,578
the "star wars".
867
00:43:02,613 --> 00:43:05,047
That would be a
level I civilization.
868
00:43:05,082 --> 00:43:07,416
A level II civilization
would be a Dyson shell
869
00:43:07,451 --> 00:43:08,951
surrounding a star.
870
00:43:08,986 --> 00:43:11,621
It shows up in some
episodes of Star Trek,
871
00:43:11,656 --> 00:43:15,057
but Kardashev level III
civilizations very rarely show
872
00:43:15,092 --> 00:43:17,660
up in pop culture, because
it's so hard to even depict
873
00:43:17,695 --> 00:43:21,397
what it means to
harness an entire galaxy.
874
00:43:21,432 --> 00:43:23,733
Narrator: That's right,Hollywood can't even imagine
875
00:43:23,768 --> 00:43:26,268
what a type IIIcivilization will look like.
876
00:43:26,303 --> 00:43:27,970
It's just toobig for our limited
877
00:43:28,005 --> 00:43:30,740
21st century minds.
878
00:43:30,775 --> 00:43:33,142
But if we can't evenbegin to imagine what a level
879
00:43:33,177 --> 00:43:36,646
3 Kardashev race looks like,how can we ever achieve it?
880
00:43:38,015 --> 00:43:41,117
And more importantly, beforewe start on this future-forward
881
00:43:41,152 --> 00:43:44,754
journey, can we make sure thatwhen we fan out across the
882
00:43:44,789 --> 00:43:47,590
universe, we won't makethe same mistakes we made on
883
00:43:47,625 --> 00:43:50,994
earth that will forceus to leave the planet?
884
00:43:51,996 --> 00:43:53,996
Annalee Newitz: All of the
outer planets would've been
885
00:43:54,031 --> 00:43:56,966
converted into the
Dyson sphere, to build it.
886
00:43:57,635 --> 00:44:02,138
So, the Dyson sphere could be
kind of an ecological disaster
887
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,840
at a solar system level.
888
00:44:04,875 --> 00:44:06,776
Rose Eveleth: Space
exploration is colonization,
889
00:44:06,811 --> 00:44:08,778
and I think that's an
important thing to think about,
890
00:44:08,813 --> 00:44:11,480
because if we decide we
want to colonize something,
891
00:44:11,515 --> 00:44:14,817
that often means that we
are killing and stealing.
892
00:44:14,852 --> 00:44:17,053
Baratunde Thurston: Part of what
we have happening with the way
893
00:44:17,088 --> 00:44:19,822
technology is
unleashed on the world,
894
00:44:19,857 --> 00:44:22,158
is that people just do it.
895
00:44:23,027 --> 00:44:25,127
And then the
consequences be damned.
896
00:44:25,162 --> 00:44:26,395
They come later.
897
00:44:26,430 --> 00:44:27,963
We don't care what it
does to the environment.
898
00:44:27,998 --> 00:44:31,734
I mean, the automobile is
a great example of like a
899
00:44:31,769 --> 00:44:35,338
super-awesome invention
that is killing the planet.
900
00:44:36,874 --> 00:44:39,341
Narrator: In other words,if we do get to level two,
901
00:44:39,376 --> 00:44:42,011
the Dyson sphere, we mayscrew up the universe the way
902
00:44:42,046 --> 00:44:43,746
we did up our planet.
903
00:44:43,781 --> 00:44:46,783
And that means humankindwon't last until level 3.
904
00:44:47,952 --> 00:44:49,585
If we're going toleave the planet,
905
00:44:49,620 --> 00:44:52,355
we need to do soconsciously and carefully.
906
00:44:53,257 --> 00:44:56,192
Greenhouse gas emissions andglobal warming didn't worry
907
00:44:56,227 --> 00:44:59,462
Henry Ford a century ago whenhe was inventing the model t.
908
00:45:00,464 --> 00:45:03,599
And now we can cross thecountry by car in a week,
909
00:45:03,634 --> 00:45:06,402
but we won't havea polar ice cap.
910
00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:11,741
Chuck Nice: So my suggestion is,
why don't we just take care of
911
00:45:11,776 --> 00:45:13,709
this planet?
912
00:45:13,744 --> 00:45:15,411
How about we do that?
913
00:45:15,446 --> 00:45:17,880
You know, it's
kind of like, yeah,
914
00:45:17,915 --> 00:45:20,416
why don't we throw away the
dishes cause I don't feel like
915
00:45:20,451 --> 00:45:21,884
washing them?
916
00:45:21,919 --> 00:45:24,887
Like that's the idea that we
have towards this earth and
917
00:45:24,922 --> 00:45:27,056
it's, I don't think
it's realistic.
918
00:45:27,091 --> 00:45:29,725
Negin Farsad: Like we should
spend all that money on making
919
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,262
sure earth is awesome and like
literally none of it on Mars.
920
00:45:34,965 --> 00:45:37,233
Narrator: What if wedecide that instead of finding
921
00:45:37,268 --> 00:45:39,969
new ways to explorethe outer reaches of space,
922
00:45:40,004 --> 00:45:41,937
we make theearth work for us?
923
00:45:41,972 --> 00:45:44,607
It'd certainly be alot more comfortable here.
924
00:45:44,642 --> 00:45:46,642
Chuck Nice: The kind of
space travel that we need to do
925
00:45:46,677 --> 00:45:48,711
right now, you have to sacrifice
pretty much everything
926
00:45:48,746 --> 00:45:49,779
in order to do it.
927
00:45:49,814 --> 00:45:51,914
Like, I couldn't go to space.
928
00:45:51,949 --> 00:45:54,650
If you told me right now I had
the opportunity right now to go,
929
00:45:54,685 --> 00:45:57,520
even to like the kuiper belt
and back, I wouldn't do it.
930
00:45:58,956 --> 00:46:00,422
Charles Soule: I like
traveling to places, right,
931
00:46:00,457 --> 00:46:02,458
but I also like coming home
to my own place where, like,
932
00:46:02,493 --> 00:46:04,994
I have my own netflix and
I've got my own, you know,
933
00:46:05,029 --> 00:46:06,896
the food that I'm familiar
with and all those things.
934
00:46:06,931 --> 00:46:09,131
Like, there's a reason we
don't live in Antarctica.
935
00:46:09,166 --> 00:46:11,267
I mean, humans can survive
there, but it sucks.
936
00:46:12,670 --> 00:46:14,069
Narrator: It's true.
937
00:46:14,104 --> 00:46:16,505
Space is cool on "Star Trek",
938
00:46:16,540 --> 00:46:20,009
but in reality, it wouldindeed be very difficult.
939
00:46:20,978 --> 00:46:24,180
And that's why keepingearth alive as long as possible
940
00:46:24,215 --> 00:46:26,649
is our most logicalcourse of action.
941
00:46:27,017 --> 00:46:28,450
For now.
942
00:46:28,485 --> 00:46:31,821
The future will bringexploration: Mankind has been
943
00:46:31,856 --> 00:46:34,456
charting new andmore difficult paths since the
944
00:46:34,491 --> 00:46:36,759
birth of civilization.
945
00:46:36,794 --> 00:46:38,594
It doesn't seem likewe're going to stop now.
946
00:46:38,629 --> 00:46:41,430
Let's just hope we havelearned from our mistakes,
947
00:46:41,465 --> 00:46:44,033
and that we'll treatour galaxy better than we've
948
00:46:44,068 --> 00:46:47,003
treated ourforests and our oceans.
949
00:46:47,872 --> 00:46:51,240
After all, outer space is thelast great uncharted territory,
950
00:46:52,343 --> 00:46:54,143
filled with substancesand structures we
951
00:46:54,178 --> 00:46:56,145
can only imagine.
952
00:46:56,180 --> 00:46:59,348
So get ready fordark matter, wormholes,
953
00:46:59,383 --> 00:47:02,318
and parallel universes.
84795
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