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NARRATOR: In the future,
you and everyone around you
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will exist solely
in a digital universe.
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You will open your eyes and live
whatever fantasy you've selected
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from an infinite menu
of options.
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You will be the hero
of your own story.
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Every experience will be
razor-sharp and gorgeous,
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like the best smart drug
ever invented.
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Say goodbye to all that
brain chemistry
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trapping you in the darkness
of your mind.
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No more PTSD, no more pain,
no more loss.
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Remember that daughter you lost
in a terrible car accident?
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Rewind the clock and
imagine a new outcome.
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You can have the equivalent
of a digital lobotomy.
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Not feeling well?
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Just reboot yourself.
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This is the future
of your digital existence.
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♪ ♪
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It's the deep future.
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Your body, gone.
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You're all computer,
all the time.
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Your brain is way more powerful
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than even a billion
supercomputers.
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Jobs, food, language, water,
even traditional thought,
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all of humanity's building
blocks, all that's done.
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And you are immortal.
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Squirming in your chair yet?
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You should be.
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This isn't science fiction.
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Today's visionary thinkers say
it's a strong probability
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that this is what your world
is going to look like.
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Tonight, they'll guide you
toward that spectacular future,
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and we'll see how
one family navigates it,
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one invention at a time.
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This is the story
of your future.
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This is the road
to Year Million.
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♪ ♪
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You might not know it yet,
but pay attention,
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because we are on a crash course
to Year Million,
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an epoch somewhere
in the deep future
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where you can't even
begin to imagine
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how technology will utterly
and completely alter
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our notion of what
it means to be human.
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NEGIN FARSAD: The idea behind
the Year Million
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is like a time in the future
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where, like, everything
is different.
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It's a total paradigm shift.
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An idea of this future time,
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otherworldly from what
we understand right now.
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NARRATOR: I've shown you
how artificial intelligence
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is the root of all
future technology.
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It will elevate the human race
to a dazzling level
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of super-intelligence, and
it will make us all immortal.
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Now, we'll launch you
out into the waters
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of the largest paradigm shift
for mankind,
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where we will live completely
and totally online.
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MICHIO KAKU:
After a hard day's work
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a lot of people turn on the TV
and they see these worlds,
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these imaginary worlds
coming at you like that.
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But then afterwards
you turn off the TV
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and say, well, that was nice.
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It was just a TV program.
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Hundreds of years from now,
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you will literally leap
into a cyberworld.
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You'll be able to touch and feel
the emotions, the fear.
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They'll be beamed
right into your brain.
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Where you cannot just
play video games,
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but all of a sudden,
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you are the hero of your,
of your story.
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You are the captain of the ship.
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NARRATOR: And why does being
the captain of your ship matter?
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Allow me a moment to digress.
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Perhaps one
of the greatest talents
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that we human beings have
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is the ability to tell stories,
to dream.
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Ever since we invented fire
and huddled around it,
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it's how we left
the daily grind behind,
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from Shakespeare's stage
to 'Leave it to Beaver.'
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The media may change, but
it's still a window on fantasy.
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We escape our day, our families,
our fears, even love.
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But we need it.
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And one day,
we'll have a new choice,
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the ultimate chance to escape.
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PETER DIAMANDIS: We can digitize
our brain, digitize our persona,
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and upload it to the cloud,
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where we forget about
our physical body,
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but it's really
our consciousness,
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our memories, who we are,
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and that is resident
on a computational platform
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that has infinite
growth potential.
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KAKU: We would become the gods
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that we once feared
and worshipped.
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FARSAD: I mean, could my avatar
just be me
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but without all of the anxiety
and insecurity?
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Like, I think
that would be great.
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She could, like, lose
a few pounds and all that stuff,
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you know, typical lady crap.
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But I mostly just want her
to, like, sleep better at night
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and, like, not worry
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that she like offended
the guy at the deli
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by like ordering
her coffee weird, you know?
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NARRATOR:
That choice to play God,
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or just someone who doesn't
tick off a barista,
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in some futuristic
microprocessor
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is hurtling toward us
faster than you can imagine.
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And we are already
smack in the middle
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of a soul-rattling,
mind-bending revolution,
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where the ultimate destination
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will be plugging in
and dropping out.
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We're talking about a future
where we are no longer shackled
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by all of the fickle quirks
of brain chemistry.
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It will be an escape
from reality so pure,
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I can't see anyone
not jumping on board
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that speeding digital train.
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But let me take you through it,
step by digital step.
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The first step is
already under way.
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Virtual reality is
in its infancy,
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but it will soon be so developed
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that your sensory nervous system
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will believe every touch,
smell, and taste
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in the simulated environments
you choose to live in.
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That's when you'll be able
to do everything
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plugged into a VR universe,
from work to school to play.
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That virtual universe is
a new environment on Earth
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called the metaverse,
version 1.0.
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A new and infinite reality
where you, or your avatar,
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can do whatever
your heart desires.
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Next there's the metaverse 2.0.
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That's when
we'll discard our bodies,
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scan our brains into a computer,
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and live as a digital signal
in an online cloud collective.
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Now don't worry, you'll probably
still have your own identity.
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But in metaverse 2.0,
there is no escape hatch.
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It's all paradise until
someone's avatar gets deleted.
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With a new world
comes new dangers,
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and we'll need to control
and police the digital sphere
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from a whole host of new crimes.
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And here's the thing that'll
really rock your world:
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some futurists believe, in fact,
they think the odds prove,
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that we are already living
in that simulation.
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You heard right.
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These are people with PhDs
who are saying this.
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Before we begin the adventure,
let's step back in time
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and role play
the first time you plug in.
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Our future family is taking
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a walk in the woods together,
right?
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Well, they are,
except their bodies are here
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in their living room.
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Mom and daughter are big fans
of living in that digital world;
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now, if they can
just convince Dad.
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OSCAR: So your designers
can recreate anything.
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Yet they recreate Earth?
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EVA: They create
all kinds of things.
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OSCAR: Right. But...
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EVA: I thought you'd like to
start with something familiar.
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JESS: What do you want
to see, Dad?
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NARRATOR:
It seems crazy to believe
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we'd ever get a simulation
to look this good.
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But remember where we were
nearly 40 years ago
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when Atari first transformed
the living room experience.
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♪ ♪
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Well, now think about
how realistic
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a PlayStation VR is today.
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CHUCK NICE:
I was in fear of my life
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that these robot zombies
were going to kill me!
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NARRATOR: Exactly.
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So, tack on another 40 years
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and imagine how much more
amazing it'll look
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if you want to digitally
hike the Himalayas
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or parachute out
of a virtual airplane
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into the Amazon Rain Forest.
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Or--and this isn't even in
the future--you could be Batman.
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MATT MIRA: I played the Batman
virtual reality game
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where you wake up
in Wayne Manor,
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you go down to the bat cave,
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you put on the bat suit,
and it's great.
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It, you feel like you're Batman.
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You'll be on the top
of a rooftop in Gotham,
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and you look down,
and I swear to God,
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sometimes I would feel
a breeze go by me.
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Even though I was
in my living room,
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like the rest of my body was
being tricked into thinking
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I was outside at night
in the rain.
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I love it.
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NARRATOR: Man, that sounds cool.
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But right now,
it's still just a game.
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You know you're pretending.
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It'd be impossible to sustain
for, say, a lifetime.
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But that's only because VR
is in the dark ages
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compared to where it will go.
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PAUL BETTNER: Today, virtual
reality is a big headset,
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it's bulky,
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but it will eventually become
an invisible technology.
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PHILIP ROSENDALE:
We can definitely get closer
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to the retina
with contact lenses.
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We should be able to make
ourselves able to see things
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we don't see.
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Hallucinate visually, basically.
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ANDERS SANDBERG:
In the long run,
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we want to splice the signal
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straight into
our nervous system.
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MIRA: You know, all you have
to do is trick five senses.
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You don't have to
do anything great.
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You just have to trick
your eyes, trick your ears,
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trick your nose,
and trick your touch,
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and you will be tricked.
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NARRATOR: So once VR tricks you,
you won't know the difference
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between walking to the bus stop
for real,
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or doing it while plugged into
a totally digital landscape.
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DAVID BYRNE: It's surprising
to experience things
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that aren't there,
that are not real.
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You know they're not real,
but you still experience them.
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NARRATOR: Our brains
are pretty much
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the most sophisticated
instruments on Planet Earth,
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so is it possible that
some fancy contact lens
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or even a neural implant are
going to make you believe
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with every fiber of your being
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that you are a Dark Ages knight
or a Mars astronaut?
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The question is how will you go
from playing Batman
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to being Batman?
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This little doll
has your answer.
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Visionary artist and
musician David Byrne
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is captivated
by the potential of VR.
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He's interested in looking
at just how much the technology
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can trick our brains.
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Can these folks truly believe
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that they are this
ugly little doll?
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BYRNE: Everybody comes in,
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we have this kind of
semicircle of chairs.
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A curtain parts in,
in the middle,
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and they see a little doll
in a chair.
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MAN: Welcome to your new body.
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NARRATOR: Yes, I know
you'd rather be a superhero.
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But today, you're the doll.
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It's all about baby steps,
people.
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MAN: We're going to perform
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something called an embodiment.
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Go ahead and put on the virtual
reality headsets or goggles.
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Now I need you to look
down at your legs.
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And you should be seeing
your new doll legs.
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MAN: Uh, what do you feel
when I touch your knee?
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[laughter]
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So your eyes tell you
that you are Brita.
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Now your sense of touch is
reinforcing this reality.
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[laughter]
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BYRNE: What you see is
the doll's knee being touched.
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But what you feel is your
own knee being touched.
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That's when they really feel
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like their body
is the doll's body.
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Then we kind of culminate by...
[laughs]
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by threatening the doll's body
a little bit.
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MAN: If you just hold still,
this won't hurt a bit.
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Just a little pin prick.
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So I'm just gonna
go ahead with that.
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Okay.
[laughs]
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BETTNER: With the right audio
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and the right
visual stimulation,
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your brain is willing to fill in
all the rest of the sensations.
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The saying 'if you could walk
a mile in someone's shoes,'
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that's actually
what you can do now.
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NARRATOR: So, yes, it turns out
VR can be extremely persuasive
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when it comes to showing you
a simulated world.
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ROSEDALE: I would say
that we, as humans,
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have already had a great deal
of experience
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creating and entering
other worlds.
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Our books, shows,
our role-playing,
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our everything we do has to some
extent been a creative exercise
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in trying to expand the limits
of where we live.
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I think that the idea of using
computers to simulate the world
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is just kind of the next
logical step in that.
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And maybe, as some people
have said, the last one.
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NARRATOR: That's right,
the last one.
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That's because once we step
into that digital world,
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we might never want to leave it.
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That could be our future.
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It'll be totally normal
to live online all the time,
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in a massive planet-wide digital
network known as the metaverse,
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where the sky's the limit,
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and you can choose your own
adventure every single day.
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Better than a cubicle, right?
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♪ ♪
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NARRATOR: The next technological
boom propelling us forward
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from virtual reality will mark
an event horizon so dramatic,
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that it very well may be
the beginning of the end
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of human life
as we've defined it.
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I'm not talking end of days;
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it's more an evolution
of the human form.
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Once we get a taste
of this escapism,
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we may never want to come back.
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And if you're like me,
you're probably wondering,
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can I really be seduced?
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And if so,
what will it feel like
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to escape into this
shared online world?
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Well, try this on for size.
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ROSEDALE: If we have
100 billion brain cells,
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we have about 100 million or so
of those
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that are leading out
to our nerves--
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touch, our vision,
smell, everything.
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What would it be like to have
100 times more nerves
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that were connecting you
to the world around you?
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What would it be like
to, to touch someone
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with 100 more times
the nerve endings
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than you have
in your skin today?
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And in a computer,
you could do this.
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NARRATOR: The metaverse,
a limitless digital refuge
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from our
less-than-perfect world.
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Driven by an artificially
intelligent engine.
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Once we hook in, we will access
recesses in our brain
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we never knew existed, connect
with minds all over the planet,
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and collectively rebuild
the world as we envision it,
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digital brick by digital brick.
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EBBE ALTBERG: The metaverse
connects all humans
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in one shared media space.
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You can interact
with other people,
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like we do
in the physical world.
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You can interact
with the environment,
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move things, touch things.
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SANDBERG: A shared,
joint virtual reality,
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that you can move around in,
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that most of society
have access to.
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KAKU: In the future,
we'll be able to create
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an imaginary world
the size of a planet.
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BETTNER: I mean, there will be
virtual construction companies
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and architects and all these
sorts of crazy jobs,
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that would sound ridiculous now
but are completely inevitable.
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ROSENDALE: Even in a completely
digital form,
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we'll form into tribes
and groups,
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and find our people
and fall in love,
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and, and do all these things.
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But I bet we'll still have
very rich decisions going on
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around, you know, how we choose
to live with each other.
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And that is still going to be
a very fundamental conflict
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that is going to be just as real
inside a digital matter
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as it would be
in the real world.
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NARRATOR: Ah, yes,
the ever-evolving calculus
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of love and relationships
in a world we design.
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The temptation could be
unimaginable.
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Say you are a woman
in a really long marriage,
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what do you do
to add a little spice?
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How about a game of role play?
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♪ ♪
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WOMAN: Hey, stranger.
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OSCAR: What's a nice girl like
you doing in a place like this?
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WOMAN: Exploring my options.
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OSCAR: I'm sorry,
but I'm married.
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WOMAN: I won't tell
if you won't.
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NARRATOR: Now, if this world
makes you uneasy,
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you'll still have
an escape hatch--
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simply unplug.
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But it may not be that simple.
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You may feel, well,
more at home in the metaverse.
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In fact, there are some
in today's world
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who are already spending a lot
of quality time in that bar,
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or rather, in this bar.
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In virtual clubs on a massive
multiplayer online program
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called Second Life.
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Second Life attracts
nearly a million patrons
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to a digital world,
even without VR.
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NICK LOIZIDES: My full name
is Nick Loizides,
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and my avatar name is Loz Hyde.
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I've been in Second Life
just over 10 years.
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NARRATOR: This is a prototype
for the metaverse.
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Players live whatever life
they choose.
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Living as whatever avatar
they design.
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LOIZIDES: When you first log in,
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you go through
this metamorphosis
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of recreating yourself
into either your likeness
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or into something else.
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I've seen people
as mermaids or dragons.
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Whatever you want to be,
you can be.
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NARRATOR: For people like Nick,
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Second Life may be just as rich
and nuanced as real life.
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LOIZIDES: The people that stick
around and stay in for years
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have that moment,
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possibly spiritually,
I guess, in some way.
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You do something like dance
at the same time,
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and that drives another emotion.
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And of course,
as you're dancing,
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you're not operating anything.
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Your avatar is literally
just doing the moves,
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and it's very graceful.
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NARRATOR:
And how can you blame Nick
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when this computer program
can make your average dude,
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well, a graceful dancer?
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Second Life is a new world
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full of experiences
and possibilities.
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And that's exactly what
Second Life's creator,
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Philip Rosedale,
was looking to do
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when he dreamed up the program
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as a first step toward
building the metaverse.
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Rosedale believes
that the metaverse
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could set humanity free.
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ROSENDALE:
When Second Life took off,
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we saw people are
a good deal more free
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about being able
to be themselves.
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The dynamics between women
and men inside Second Life
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were different than they are
in the real world.
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Women took over,
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dominated a lot of the economy
and manufacturing,
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and I think some of that
comes from the fact
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that we had finally
removed all bias.
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LOIZIDES: I have a manager
in there, Samantha is her name.
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She's amazing.
403
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We have a club called Core,
she basically runs that for me.
404
00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:17,641
Core, the nightclub,
is underwater,
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so you have glass around,
you can see fish.
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NARRATOR: So the future bar
where Oscar and Eva meet up
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for a digital tryst, those kinds
of connections are being forged
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right now,
even in today's digital bars.
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And those relationships inspire
real emotions, even love.
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LOIZIDES: The way I met Sam,
my manager,
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I was dancing
with somebody else,
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but I was flirting with her.
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[laughs]
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Whether we meet
in real life or not,
415
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whether I know what she looks
like in real life or not,
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it doesn't matter.
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I totally trust her
and love her to death.
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ANNALEE NEWITZ:
Virtual reality could enhance
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a lot of the experiences
that we're already having now
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through the Internet
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and make them feel
a lot more real,
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and give us much more emotional
and visceral reactions.
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NARRATOR: Programs like
Second Life
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are laying the groundwork
for a metaverse
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that will attract
more and more users
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until it is as omnipresent
as smart phones.
427
00:22:17,202 --> 00:22:20,671
But Second Life is about to take
a giant step forward.
428
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It's about to morph
into something else,
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something that uses
3D virtual reality,
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and makes the program
far more immersive,
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meaning that
we are getting closer
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to being able to experience
the metaverse,
433
00:22:32,684 --> 00:22:36,553
just like
our future family does.
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Linden Lab, the company
behind Second Life,
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is hard at work on developing
a program called Sansar.
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00:22:43,529 --> 00:22:46,697
It's Second Life,
but on steroids.
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00:22:46,732 --> 00:22:48,599
You'll be able to roam around
a digital world,
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00:22:48,634 --> 00:22:51,268
but now it will be
fully 3D, interactive,
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and virtual reality-accessible.
440
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Instead of punching keys
on a keyboard,
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it will mimic your movement.
442
00:22:58,310 --> 00:23:00,210
It's realer.
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ALTBERG: I put on my headset,
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and then I meet
other people there.
445
00:23:03,949 --> 00:23:07,017
And I can have really natural
social interaction with them,
446
00:23:07,052 --> 00:23:09,753
because I can use
my body language.
447
00:23:09,788 --> 00:23:12,289
As my head moves,
my avatar's head moves,
448
00:23:12,324 --> 00:23:14,558
and as I speak, my mouth moves.
449
00:23:14,593 --> 00:23:18,295
Which then makes the way
you communicate with people,
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and especially when
you're a group of people,
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00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:23,734
it sort of becomes
a very natural way
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00:23:23,769 --> 00:23:26,270
of communicating
with each other.
453
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LOIZIDES: Hey, Bjorn.
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BJORN LAURIN:
Hey, Nick, how are you, man?
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LOIZIDES:
Good to meet you finally.
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NARRATOR: Sansar's VR world
could make the online landscape
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even more appealing
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for dedicated Second Life
players, like Nick.
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LAURIN: Nick, personally I've
only known him for a short time,
460
00:23:41,487 --> 00:23:44,054
basically, but I've kind of
seen him around Second Life.
461
00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:45,622
He applied for Sansar
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when we opened up what we call
a creator preview.
463
00:23:47,993 --> 00:23:50,294
We selected him based
on his previous work,
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to be part of us now,
465
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basically, one of the early
creators in Sansar,
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to work with us.
467
00:23:56,835 --> 00:24:00,170
Let's do some fun and
switch avatars now, basically.
468
00:24:00,205 --> 00:24:02,906
Follow me up here,
up these stairs.
469
00:24:02,941 --> 00:24:04,575
I will show you something fun.
470
00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:07,244
There you go! And then try
to throw it like this.
471
00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:09,646
See, I missed,
I'm really bad apparently.
472
00:24:09,681 --> 00:24:11,114
Nice!
473
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NARRATOR: Once VR makes a bar
that looks real,
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is filled with beautiful people,
475
00:24:16,154 --> 00:24:19,590
and always has your favorite
microbrew on tap,
476
00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:24,194
that's when that online world
may just be irresistible.
477
00:24:24,229 --> 00:24:26,263
KAKU: We don't have that
computational power today.
478
00:24:26,298 --> 00:24:28,999
We're not going to have it
100 years from now.
479
00:24:29,034 --> 00:24:32,002
But with quantum computers,
it's a game-changer.
480
00:24:32,037 --> 00:24:34,771
It means that things that
are preposterous today
481
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become possible.
482
00:24:36,842 --> 00:24:39,676
NARRATOR: When we choose to be
hooked up to it all the time,
483
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that will be the birth
of the metaverse 1.0.
484
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BETTNER: But by the time
we get there,
485
00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:48,685
what those experiences will
give us will be so compelling
486
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that, you know,
and then it's there,
487
00:24:50,389 --> 00:24:53,891
and there we're using it,
and there's no going back.
488
00:24:53,926 --> 00:24:57,528
BARATUNDE THURSTON: The Matrix
is coming for all of us.
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I don't know that any of us
has a choice.
490
00:25:00,265 --> 00:25:01,899
NARRATOR: That's right,
Baratunde.
491
00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:03,500
We probably don't.
492
00:25:03,535 --> 00:25:05,335
The seductive escape
of the metaverse
493
00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:08,372
is ensnaring us in its web
as we speak,
494
00:25:08,407 --> 00:25:10,474
and you are more
vulnerable to it
495
00:25:10,509 --> 00:25:14,044
every single time you pick up
that smart phone of yours.
496
00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:15,345
But if that makes
you want to throw
497
00:25:15,380 --> 00:25:18,015
every single one
of your screens away,
498
00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:20,484
wait until you hear about
the next incarnation
499
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:21,552
of the metaverse,
500
00:25:21,587 --> 00:25:23,220
where your body won't even exist
501
00:25:23,255 --> 00:25:26,423
and you'll have transformed
into a post-human,
502
00:25:26,458 --> 00:25:28,959
living entirely
inside the machine.
503
00:25:31,930 --> 00:25:33,263
NARRATOR: It's no secret
that we humans
504
00:25:33,298 --> 00:25:35,599
are pretty obsessed
with how we look.
505
00:25:35,634 --> 00:25:37,234
Look at how many billions
we spend every year
506
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:40,771
on beauty, fashion,
and exercise.
507
00:25:40,806 --> 00:25:42,906
But what if you didn't
have to be limited
508
00:25:42,941 --> 00:25:46,843
by whatever biology you had
the stupid luck to be born with?
509
00:25:46,878 --> 00:25:48,512
Well, in the future,
510
00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:52,316
we'll be able to escape
the jail of our bodies.
511
00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:55,786
It sounds trippy,
512
00:25:55,821 --> 00:25:58,188
but the metaverse will
eventually graduate
513
00:25:58,223 --> 00:26:03,560
to version 2.0, where we will
abandon our bodies,
514
00:26:03,595 --> 00:26:08,131
upload our minds, and live
permanently on a hard drive.
515
00:26:08,166 --> 00:26:11,235
We're talking about
the ultimate escape.
516
00:26:13,972 --> 00:26:16,740
MIRA: If you're able to digitize
your consciousness
517
00:26:16,775 --> 00:26:20,477
and send it to
a cloud or a body,
518
00:26:20,512 --> 00:26:25,616
we're talking about us all being
able to leave our bodies behind.
519
00:26:25,651 --> 00:26:27,718
NARRATOR: Sci-fi has
recently imagined
520
00:26:27,753 --> 00:26:29,286
one version of this metaverse
521
00:26:29,321 --> 00:26:31,254
where humans upload
to a server farm
522
00:26:31,289 --> 00:26:33,323
and choose, for whatever reason,
523
00:26:33,358 --> 00:26:35,792
a hip '80s dance club
to hang out in.
524
00:26:35,827 --> 00:26:37,127
THURSTON: There's an episode
of 'Black Mirror'
525
00:26:37,162 --> 00:26:39,062
that had a version of this
526
00:26:39,097 --> 00:26:42,733
where you uploaded your
consciousness to the cloud.
527
00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:45,135
And you could, you could choose
where you wanted to hang out.
528
00:26:45,170 --> 00:26:46,503
sort of what theme.
529
00:26:46,538 --> 00:26:48,438
And there were nightclubs
and beaches,
530
00:26:48,473 --> 00:26:51,942
and it was like
a resort style of life.
531
00:26:51,977 --> 00:26:53,610
NARRATOR: But bar culture aside,
532
00:26:53,645 --> 00:26:56,246
not having a physical body
will bring the human race
533
00:26:56,281 --> 00:26:59,650
to a whole new and
super-advanced level.
534
00:26:59,685 --> 00:27:02,452
We'll live as long as
the computers keep working away.
535
00:27:02,487 --> 00:27:04,655
So when we get old and wise,
536
00:27:04,690 --> 00:27:09,292
we'll be able to keep on
getting older and wiser.
537
00:27:09,327 --> 00:27:10,961
MICHAEL GRAZIANO: People
accumulate incredible amounts
538
00:27:10,996 --> 00:27:15,198
of experience over a lifetime,
and then it goes away.
539
00:27:15,233 --> 00:27:17,701
If you upload brains,
essentially what you're doing,
540
00:27:17,736 --> 00:27:20,671
you're preserving wisdom,
you're preserving knowledge.
541
00:27:20,706 --> 00:27:21,972
CHARLES SOULE:
Digital consciousness
542
00:27:22,007 --> 00:27:23,674
is going to drastically
change the way
543
00:27:23,709 --> 00:27:25,342
human beings think
about their lives
544
00:27:25,377 --> 00:27:26,843
and what they're supposed
to achieve with them.
545
00:27:26,878 --> 00:27:28,378
We'll become a very, very
different species.
546
00:27:28,413 --> 00:27:31,982
MIRA: I'll leave my body behind
for another body,
547
00:27:32,017 --> 00:27:35,385
but I don't want to like
be put into a car
548
00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:37,854
or like, you know,
I don't want to be KITT.
549
00:27:37,889 --> 00:27:41,692
That wouldn't be fun for me.
550
00:27:41,727 --> 00:27:43,727
NARRATOR: I'm going to have
to disagree with you, Matt.
551
00:27:43,762 --> 00:27:46,063
Being able to go 100 miles
an hour on the Autobahn
552
00:27:46,098 --> 00:27:47,664
doesn't sound too shabby.
553
00:27:47,699 --> 00:27:49,900
That's why there are
some intrepid explorers
554
00:27:49,935 --> 00:27:52,536
who will welcome
that chance to upload.
555
00:27:57,109 --> 00:27:59,042
OSCAR: There are boundaries,
Eva.
556
00:27:59,077 --> 00:28:00,977
There are lines you can't cross,
even for us.
557
00:28:01,012 --> 00:28:03,046
EVA: But why,
why should there be?
558
00:28:03,081 --> 00:28:08,418
There is a whole universe
of new places and new ideas.
559
00:28:08,453 --> 00:28:11,722
Why keep getting pulled back
into a physical body?
560
00:28:11,757 --> 00:28:14,324
OSCAR: We don't even know
all the risks.
561
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,861
What's to stop me from
being copied or hacked?
562
00:28:17,896 --> 00:28:23,934
EVA: Oscar, I want to live in
the digital world permanently.
563
00:28:23,969 --> 00:28:26,203
I want to upload for good.
564
00:28:26,238 --> 00:28:31,708
Why worry about pain and death
if we can live forever there?
565
00:28:31,743 --> 00:28:32,876
OSCAR: Does it even count
as living
566
00:28:32,911 --> 00:28:34,611
if your physical body's dead?
567
00:28:34,646 --> 00:28:37,114
EVA: I've been thinking about
this for a long time.
568
00:28:37,149 --> 00:28:41,351
And I know what I've got to do.
569
00:28:41,386 --> 00:28:47,090
But I would rather do it
with your support.
570
00:28:47,125 --> 00:28:48,892
OSCAR: Okay.
571
00:29:00,639 --> 00:29:02,739
NARRATOR: Someday enough people
like Eva will make that leap
572
00:29:02,774 --> 00:29:04,374
to live digitally.
573
00:29:04,409 --> 00:29:09,646
That's when a new society
will form...online.
574
00:29:09,681 --> 00:29:11,448
ROSENDALE: I think
the digital world will form
575
00:29:11,483 --> 00:29:17,454
kind of bottom-up, the same way
a society like America did.
576
00:29:17,489 --> 00:29:19,790
Small cities and groups
that kind of fused together
577
00:29:19,825 --> 00:29:22,793
and found each other
over long periods of time.
578
00:29:22,828 --> 00:29:25,262
NICE: The great thing about
uploading your consciousness
579
00:29:25,297 --> 00:29:27,430
is go to work
looking any way I want.
580
00:29:27,465 --> 00:29:29,800
Hey, guys, I'm not wearing
any pants. Mm-hmm.
581
00:29:29,835 --> 00:29:32,903
Seriously! Who truly wants
to wear pants to work?
582
00:29:32,938 --> 00:29:36,106
Nobody.
583
00:29:36,141 --> 00:29:38,241
NARRATOR: And it is that promise
of being equally free
584
00:29:38,276 --> 00:29:41,444
from both oppressive leadership
and pants
585
00:29:41,479 --> 00:29:42,846
that could propel
people like Eva
586
00:29:42,881 --> 00:29:46,817
to run off and join
the metaverse.
587
00:29:46,852 --> 00:29:51,188
But will it actually be possible
to digitize your mind?
588
00:29:51,223 --> 00:29:53,423
Futurists like Elon Musk
are banking on it.
589
00:29:53,458 --> 00:29:55,826
He's already unveiled
the Neuralink initiative,
590
00:29:55,861 --> 00:29:57,928
which will link the brain
with computing devices
591
00:29:57,963 --> 00:29:59,863
in the next 10 years.
592
00:29:59,898 --> 00:30:01,665
GEORGE DVORSKY: There are
several attempts right now
593
00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:04,000
around the world to map the
brain in excruciating detail,
594
00:30:04,035 --> 00:30:05,869
and that's what's required.
595
00:30:05,904 --> 00:30:07,971
GRAZIANO:
It's scanning technology.
596
00:30:08,006 --> 00:30:12,275
So it's possible, it's going
to happen, I'm positive of that.
597
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:14,477
NARRATOR: So you will be
part of a computer.
598
00:30:14,512 --> 00:30:16,613
Yes, it sounds freaky.
599
00:30:16,648 --> 00:30:18,882
But here's a major upside--
600
00:30:18,917 --> 00:30:22,185
we could bring our dead
back to life.
601
00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:25,923
One futurist is already working
toward doing just that.
602
00:30:29,261 --> 00:30:32,229
RAY KURZWEIL: I've had a project
to gather all the information
603
00:30:32,264 --> 00:30:33,997
about my father.
604
00:30:34,032 --> 00:30:37,300
He died when I was 22, in 1970.
605
00:30:37,335 --> 00:30:41,238
He kept all of his letters
and all of his electric bills,
606
00:30:41,273 --> 00:30:44,975
and every document.
607
00:30:45,010 --> 00:30:51,081
The idea is to create an avatar
that would represent my father.
608
00:30:51,116 --> 00:30:52,983
Ultimately, I think
artificial intelligence
609
00:30:53,018 --> 00:30:58,488
can create a virtual person.
610
00:30:58,523 --> 00:31:01,591
GRAZIANO: So your friend
passes away.
611
00:31:01,626 --> 00:31:05,595
So now you can text your virtual
friend, and he'll answer.
612
00:31:05,630 --> 00:31:08,231
It's like back in the day
when people looked at a statue
613
00:31:08,266 --> 00:31:10,400
and thought it had
a little bit of the soul
614
00:31:10,435 --> 00:31:14,371
and essence of
the original person in it.
615
00:31:14,406 --> 00:31:16,072
KAKU: Why not have
a holographic image
616
00:31:16,107 --> 00:31:19,743
with all the memories and
mannerisms of Winston Churchill?
617
00:31:19,778 --> 00:31:21,444
In the future,
618
00:31:21,479 --> 00:31:27,050
your descendants may go to
the library and talk to you.
619
00:31:27,085 --> 00:31:28,251
NARRATOR: Now here is where
620
00:31:28,286 --> 00:31:30,854
things get
philosophically sticky.
621
00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:33,790
When we are all bodiless
computer signals,
622
00:31:33,825 --> 00:31:37,193
is that still humanity?
623
00:31:37,228 --> 00:31:40,063
KAKU: Now, of course, it all
goes back to the question of
624
00:31:40,098 --> 00:31:42,933
how do you define you?
625
00:31:42,968 --> 00:31:45,735
Is that really you
that's been digitalized
626
00:31:45,770 --> 00:31:48,138
and uploaded in a computer?
627
00:31:48,173 --> 00:31:50,407
Well, it depends on
how you define you,
628
00:31:50,442 --> 00:31:53,576
and how you define soul.
629
00:31:53,611 --> 00:31:57,580
BRIAN GREENE: I'd like to think
that what makes us who we are
630
00:31:57,615 --> 00:31:59,649
transcends our physical form.
631
00:31:59,684 --> 00:32:04,988
And if we evolve to a
digital form, a simulated form,
632
00:32:05,023 --> 00:32:09,326
the essence of who we are
will stay with us.
633
00:32:09,361 --> 00:32:11,227
MIRA: I think we are
our consciousness.
634
00:32:11,262 --> 00:32:14,564
I think we are our experiences.
635
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:18,268
NARRATOR: Okay, so in
a digitally rendered metaverse,
636
00:32:18,303 --> 00:32:19,970
what about our flaws?
637
00:32:20,005 --> 00:32:22,339
Is that digital world
utterly perfect,
638
00:32:22,374 --> 00:32:26,443
with no parking tickets or
getting fired or messy breakups?
639
00:32:26,478 --> 00:32:29,512
How do you have something
as awesome as blues music
640
00:32:29,547 --> 00:32:31,648
if there's no heartache?
641
00:32:31,683 --> 00:32:33,783
Well, I, for one, am hoping
the programmers think of that
642
00:32:33,818 --> 00:32:36,019
before I plug in.
643
00:32:36,054 --> 00:32:37,854
BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS: There's
that great line in The Matrix
644
00:32:37,889 --> 00:32:42,759
where they describe that they
had created a different matrix
645
00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:45,128
that was perfect,
it was like heaven.
646
00:32:45,163 --> 00:32:47,530
And the humans rejected it.
647
00:32:47,565 --> 00:32:54,771
Like they needed a crappy life
to, to see as reality.
648
00:32:54,806 --> 00:32:57,674
NARRATOR: Even if the metaverse
2.0 has a few warts
649
00:32:57,709 --> 00:32:59,275
to keep us interesting,
650
00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:02,879
I'm thinking the perk of
cheating death is awesome enough
651
00:33:02,914 --> 00:33:04,848
that the lines on day one
652
00:33:04,883 --> 00:33:06,449
are going to be like
the ones you stood on
653
00:33:06,484 --> 00:33:09,052
for your Nintendo Switch.
654
00:33:09,087 --> 00:33:12,889
But there is a truly terrifying
aspect of metaverse 2.0--
655
00:33:12,924 --> 00:33:14,724
you open yourself up
to getting hacked.
656
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:17,694
But it's not your computer
getting hacked here,
657
00:33:17,729 --> 00:33:19,062
it's your brain.
658
00:33:26,204 --> 00:33:37,981
♪ ♪
659
00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:40,483
NARRATOR: In the first
incarnation of the metaverse,
660
00:33:40,518 --> 00:33:44,421
version 1.0, the digital world
will be an escape
661
00:33:44,456 --> 00:33:46,189
from the real world.
662
00:33:46,224 --> 00:33:50,393
But in metaverse 2.0,
when we leave our bodies behind,
663
00:33:50,428 --> 00:33:52,896
that's the point of no return.
664
00:33:52,931 --> 00:33:54,697
JESS: Dad.
665
00:33:54,732 --> 00:34:08,378
♪ ♪
666
00:34:08,413 --> 00:34:09,913
NARRATOR: It's like volunteering
667
00:34:09,948 --> 00:34:13,583
to go on that first
long flight to Mars.
668
00:34:13,618 --> 00:34:16,453
It's probably a one-way ticket.
669
00:34:16,488 --> 00:34:18,922
It will be the end of humanity.
670
00:34:18,957 --> 00:34:22,392
But even for those with the best
intentions like Eva here,
671
00:34:22,427 --> 00:34:25,962
there are stakes
that we cannot ignore.
672
00:34:30,602 --> 00:34:33,570
FARSAD: There's the kind
of rosy possibility
673
00:34:33,605 --> 00:34:35,538
that the metaverse
would bring us together,
674
00:34:35,573 --> 00:34:38,541
that we'd all be able
to convene in this place,
675
00:34:38,576 --> 00:34:43,613
and we'd all look gorgeous
'cause of our avatars.
676
00:34:43,648 --> 00:34:49,552
But then there's also this kind
of, like, darker possibility,
677
00:34:49,587 --> 00:34:52,755
you know, where we learn that
being in the metaverse
678
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:56,793
is actually like no substitute
for actual human interaction,
679
00:34:56,828 --> 00:35:00,997
and that it creates maybe
more division, more seclusion,
680
00:35:01,032 --> 00:35:03,933
more isolation,
maybe like more bigotry,
681
00:35:03,968 --> 00:35:07,804
and like maybe just like
a far worse society.
682
00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:09,239
NARRATOR: Chances are
you've clicked 'accept'
683
00:35:09,274 --> 00:35:11,407
on those privacy agreements
that come up
684
00:35:11,442 --> 00:35:15,411
when you download an Internet
application or enter a website.
685
00:35:15,446 --> 00:35:17,747
Ever read those
privacy agreements?
686
00:35:17,782 --> 00:35:19,315
Me neither.
687
00:35:19,350 --> 00:35:22,118
If that's the gateway to
the newest social media site
688
00:35:22,153 --> 00:35:25,788
that everyone else is using, of
course you're going to say yes.
689
00:35:25,823 --> 00:35:27,991
Thing is, sometimes you're
giving a giant conglomerate
690
00:35:28,026 --> 00:35:31,761
access to the kind of things
you'd rather not let them know,
691
00:35:31,796 --> 00:35:35,532
things like your browser history
or your email address.
692
00:35:35,567 --> 00:35:37,767
If that sounds a little too
Big Brother for you,
693
00:35:37,802 --> 00:35:41,437
imagine what life will be like
when you are digital,
694
00:35:41,472 --> 00:35:43,840
and your world is the metaverse,
695
00:35:43,875 --> 00:35:48,311
and you can't exist unless
you let the metaverse access
696
00:35:48,346 --> 00:35:52,682
every memory and thought
in your brain.
697
00:35:52,717 --> 00:35:54,984
Houston, we have a problem.
698
00:35:55,019 --> 00:35:56,786
Especially since it's likely
699
00:35:56,821 --> 00:35:58,521
that something as big
as the metaverse
700
00:35:58,556 --> 00:36:02,025
isn't going to be built by
a couple of kindhearted hackers
701
00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:04,227
in their spare time.
702
00:36:04,262 --> 00:36:08,298
GRAZIANO: I imagine that
initially, at least,
703
00:36:08,333 --> 00:36:10,500
this is corporate control.
704
00:36:10,535 --> 00:36:13,703
Because what other entity
has the resources
705
00:36:13,738 --> 00:36:15,838
to build something like this?
706
00:36:15,873 --> 00:36:21,311
And so you have an incredible
concentration of power
707
00:36:21,346 --> 00:36:24,514
in corporate hands.
708
00:36:24,549 --> 00:36:26,649
LOUIS ROSENBERG: We could
ultimately create a replica
709
00:36:26,684 --> 00:36:31,854
of our own world that is just
giving power to third parties.
710
00:36:31,889 --> 00:36:35,058
And that company has
goals and aspirations.
711
00:36:35,093 --> 00:36:38,761
Those goals and aspirations are
probably to sell you something,
712
00:36:38,796 --> 00:36:41,564
to study you,
to collect data about you.
713
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,767
People will lose more and more
of their privacy.
714
00:36:44,802 --> 00:36:48,238
They will be advertised to
more and more.
715
00:36:48,273 --> 00:36:49,505
They will be manipulated
716
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:51,708
by these
artificial intelligence bots
717
00:36:51,743 --> 00:36:53,676
that are running
behind the scenes.
718
00:36:53,711 --> 00:36:55,078
DVORSKY: You could get
a situation
719
00:36:55,113 --> 00:36:57,013
where there's a kind
of hydraulic despotism,
720
00:36:57,048 --> 00:36:59,382
which is an old-fashioned term
that basically says
721
00:36:59,417 --> 00:37:01,451
that if you control
a very fundamental resource,
722
00:37:01,486 --> 00:37:03,753
you control everything.
723
00:37:03,788 --> 00:37:06,623
ROSE EVELETH: I want to have
very detailed privacy controls
724
00:37:06,658 --> 00:37:08,458
on that upload.
725
00:37:08,493 --> 00:37:10,793
NARRATOR: Not that I have
anything to hide,
726
00:37:10,828 --> 00:37:12,562
but I might have
one or two secrets
727
00:37:12,597 --> 00:37:14,397
I don't want
the Metaverse Corporation
728
00:37:14,432 --> 00:37:16,132
getting their hands on.
729
00:37:16,167 --> 00:37:18,268
You'd hope we'd be smart enough
to click 'decline'
730
00:37:18,303 --> 00:37:20,036
on any metaverse like this.
731
00:37:20,071 --> 00:37:21,437
And some believe that
it's a long shot
732
00:37:21,472 --> 00:37:22,972
that our new digital world
733
00:37:23,007 --> 00:37:25,775
will be in the hands
of one single company.
734
00:37:25,810 --> 00:37:28,211
ROSEDALE: The largest-scale
systems that we have today
735
00:37:28,246 --> 00:37:30,446
are almost all decentralized.
736
00:37:30,481 --> 00:37:34,050
They're never owned by one
company except in the movies.
737
00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:38,321
And so I believe that VR,
and hopefully AI,
738
00:37:38,356 --> 00:37:41,124
these will be
the product of everyone.
739
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:44,894
I think that someone,
hopefully me and my company,
740
00:37:44,929 --> 00:37:49,098
will build a standard
kind of open source server
741
00:37:49,133 --> 00:37:50,900
that lets millions of people
742
00:37:50,935 --> 00:37:54,437
start to put up little
communities and meeting places
743
00:37:54,472 --> 00:37:57,640
and teaching facilities.
744
00:37:57,675 --> 00:38:00,443
NARRATOR: Even in that
kind of best-case scenario,
745
00:38:00,478 --> 00:38:02,412
we are still human.
746
00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:04,814
We'll still be greedy or angry
747
00:38:04,849 --> 00:38:08,518
or violent towards
each other sometimes.
748
00:38:08,553 --> 00:38:12,021
SANDBERG: People will always do
what they do in the real world
749
00:38:12,056 --> 00:38:13,523
in the virtual worlds, too.
750
00:38:13,558 --> 00:38:15,325
So of course we're going
to see crime,
751
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,926
and of course
we're going to see attempts
752
00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:21,464
at both preventing it
and punishing it.
753
00:38:21,499 --> 00:38:23,966
There are both questions
of virtual theft,
754
00:38:24,001 --> 00:38:27,603
but also virtual sexual
harassment, virtual rape,
755
00:38:27,638 --> 00:38:33,209
virtual murder, maybe, if you
delete somebody's character.
756
00:38:33,244 --> 00:38:34,444
ROSENDALE:
Although we won't be able
757
00:38:34,479 --> 00:38:36,212
to come to physical harm there,
758
00:38:36,247 --> 00:38:38,481
we'll still be able
to hurt each other.
759
00:38:38,516 --> 00:38:41,017
People will still be able to
isolate themselves from others,
760
00:38:41,052 --> 00:38:44,387
or make someone more alone than
they want to be, for example,
761
00:38:44,422 --> 00:38:46,556
or exclude then from a group.
762
00:38:46,591 --> 00:38:51,361
It means that people will still
have control over each other.
763
00:38:51,396 --> 00:38:52,662
DVORSKY: You as a digital copy
764
00:38:52,697 --> 00:38:54,197
are going to be
under constant threat.
765
00:38:54,232 --> 00:38:56,366
Somebody might want to copy you
against your will.
766
00:38:56,401 --> 00:38:59,635
There's even potential for the
corruption of your source code.
767
00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:01,170
NEWITZ:
I mean, I think, you know,
768
00:39:01,205 --> 00:39:04,173
you're looking at
future regulatory agencies,
769
00:39:04,208 --> 00:39:05,742
and you're looking at something
770
00:39:05,777 --> 00:39:11,381
like health regulatory agencies
of today.
771
00:39:11,416 --> 00:39:14,083
MIRA: I don't know who
wants the metaverse.
772
00:39:14,118 --> 00:39:19,589
You, you just wind up...
it's like social media.
773
00:39:19,624 --> 00:39:21,824
I think if the metaverse is
anything like social media,
774
00:39:21,859 --> 00:39:24,827
we're in for a rough ride.
775
00:39:24,862 --> 00:39:26,729
NARRATOR: If you don't want
to cross over,
776
00:39:26,764 --> 00:39:30,600
how will you negotiate living in
what's left of the real world?
777
00:39:30,635 --> 00:39:33,503
Especially if your wife
of several hundred years
778
00:39:33,538 --> 00:39:36,406
has made the decision to upload?
779
00:39:41,646 --> 00:39:45,948
[air hissing]
780
00:39:45,983 --> 00:39:47,717
JESS: Hey, stranger.
781
00:39:47,752 --> 00:39:51,220
OSCAR: This is a nice surprise.
782
00:39:51,255 --> 00:39:54,924
Oh, could you, uh, could you,
could you pass me that brush?
783
00:39:54,959 --> 00:40:01,764
Yeah, thanks.
784
00:40:01,799 --> 00:40:04,067
JESS: Mom's been asking
after you.
785
00:40:15,012 --> 00:40:17,447
You know there's no reason
why you can't visit.
786
00:40:17,482 --> 00:40:21,951
OSCAR: Yeah, I know,
I've just, I've been busy.
787
00:40:21,986 --> 00:40:23,987
JESS: You've been avoiding her.
788
00:40:32,763 --> 00:40:34,230
If you want to be
together forever,
789
00:40:34,265 --> 00:40:37,200
the only place to do it is
in the collective.
790
00:40:44,375 --> 00:40:58,688
♪ ♪
791
00:40:58,723 --> 00:41:02,425
NARRATOR: Well, I get how Oscar
might not want to have a life
792
00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:04,994
that could be ended
with a delete key.
793
00:41:05,029 --> 00:41:08,364
But the thing is, we've already
started our gradual transition
794
00:41:08,399 --> 00:41:10,166
into living digitally.
795
00:41:10,201 --> 00:41:11,667
You probably didn't even notice
796
00:41:11,702 --> 00:41:14,203
just how much you were
using your phone's GPS
797
00:41:14,238 --> 00:41:17,139
until you were
utterly dependent on it.
798
00:41:17,174 --> 00:41:19,609
Well, that's how it'll be
799
00:41:19,644 --> 00:41:22,345
when you can start to plug
into the metaverse.
800
00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:26,649
It'll gradually take over
without your ever knowing it.
801
00:41:26,684 --> 00:41:29,819
Unless it already has.
802
00:41:29,854 --> 00:41:32,288
I am sorry to be the one
to tell you this,
803
00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:35,191
but the metaverse may have
already been built,
804
00:41:35,226 --> 00:41:37,727
and we are in it.
805
00:41:37,762 --> 00:41:39,195
Can you prove that
we aren't living
806
00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:41,731
inside a giant
digital simulation
807
00:41:41,766 --> 00:41:45,167
built by
an advanced civilization?
808
00:41:45,202 --> 00:41:49,205
I'll answer that.
No, you can't.
809
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:56,546
Which means maybe all you see,
all you are, is just software.
810
00:42:06,924 --> 00:42:08,190
NARRATOR: For better or worse,
811
00:42:08,225 --> 00:42:12,695
humanity's future
is in the cloud.
812
00:42:12,730 --> 00:42:15,398
We'll plug in,
abandon our mortal coil
813
00:42:15,433 --> 00:42:18,301
and live eternally
in the metaverse.
814
00:42:21,305 --> 00:42:24,574
Just like our future family,
815
00:42:24,609 --> 00:42:26,576
burning a few
simulated s'mores
816
00:42:26,611 --> 00:42:29,612
around a virtual campfire.
817
00:42:29,647 --> 00:42:32,582
Just like life, right?
818
00:42:32,617 --> 00:42:36,886
But that's what leads to our
most bone-chilling idea yet.
819
00:42:36,921 --> 00:42:41,090
There is a possibility that the
metaverse isn't in the future,
820
00:42:41,125 --> 00:42:43,893
but that we are living in it
right now,
821
00:42:43,928 --> 00:42:46,996
and everything around you
is a simulation.
822
00:42:50,301 --> 00:42:53,202
GREENE: How hard would it be
to create a new universe
823
00:42:53,237 --> 00:42:55,271
in the traditional sense?
824
00:42:55,306 --> 00:42:57,373
That's pretty tough.
825
00:42:57,408 --> 00:43:00,910
How hard is it to create a new
universe in the simulated sense?
826
00:43:00,945 --> 00:43:02,545
Not that tough.
827
00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:04,580
You get a powerful computer,
turn it on, kick back,
828
00:43:04,615 --> 00:43:07,750
and let the software go
and create that realm.
829
00:43:07,785 --> 00:43:09,585
Which means, over time,
you would think
830
00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:12,622
there'd be many more
simulated universes
831
00:43:12,657 --> 00:43:15,925
than real universes.
832
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,426
The odds would suggest
833
00:43:17,461 --> 00:43:20,062
that everybody should
come to the conclusion
834
00:43:20,097 --> 00:43:24,467
that they are
in a simulated world.
835
00:43:24,502 --> 00:43:26,769
That would be
the natural conclusion
836
00:43:26,804 --> 00:43:28,971
that any rational,
logical, sentient being
837
00:43:29,006 --> 00:43:33,476
would come to in this framework.
838
00:43:33,511 --> 00:43:35,177
DVORSKY: We ourselves
might be parked
839
00:43:35,212 --> 00:43:37,013
inside of some kind of
fancy super-computer
840
00:43:37,048 --> 00:43:40,916
that's being run by, you know,
our post-human forebears.
841
00:43:40,951 --> 00:43:42,918
THURSTON: So, we're living
in a simulation.
842
00:43:42,953 --> 00:43:46,656
We could just be living
off of feeding tubes,
843
00:43:46,691 --> 00:43:50,593
hanging out in The Matrix.
844
00:43:50,628 --> 00:43:52,662
HOD LIPSON:
I think it's impossible to tell
845
00:43:52,697 --> 00:43:54,464
by definition.
846
00:43:57,702 --> 00:44:00,603
NARRATOR: The idea is that
on an infinite timeline,
847
00:44:00,638 --> 00:44:03,806
with infinite possible
alien species out there,
848
00:44:03,841 --> 00:44:05,441
and with the relative ease
849
00:44:05,476 --> 00:44:08,310
of building a digital
environment on a computer,
850
00:44:08,345 --> 00:44:12,782
odds are that some intelligent
race somewhere has built one.
851
00:44:12,817 --> 00:44:17,520
And more likely than not, there
are lots of these universes.
852
00:44:17,555 --> 00:44:21,224
I, for one, am not finding that
particularly comforting.
853
00:44:25,596 --> 00:44:27,029
BETTNER: It's kind of the only
thing that makes sense.
854
00:44:27,064 --> 00:44:29,165
All the stuff that is
happening right now,
855
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,901
seems it only has
one inevitable conclusion,
856
00:44:31,936 --> 00:44:32,968
you know what I'm saying?
857
00:44:33,003 --> 00:44:34,537
[laughs]
858
00:44:34,572 --> 00:44:36,505
ROSEDALE: Virtual worlds exhibit
these little cracks
859
00:44:36,540 --> 00:44:38,574
or flaws in them.
860
00:44:38,609 --> 00:44:40,309
Well, guess what?
861
00:44:40,344 --> 00:44:44,213
We see these little cracks
in the simulation
862
00:44:44,248 --> 00:44:46,749
when we look at the real world.
863
00:44:46,784 --> 00:44:49,719
Stuff in the real world,
protons and electrons,
864
00:44:49,754 --> 00:44:51,220
will sometimes go
right through each other
865
00:44:51,255 --> 00:44:52,822
when they're not supposed to.
866
00:44:52,857 --> 00:44:55,858
And so the funny hypothesis
that comes from this is,
867
00:44:55,893 --> 00:44:58,761
if we're seeing this problem
with creating virtual worlds,
868
00:44:58,796 --> 00:45:00,529
and we're seeing this problem
in the real world,
869
00:45:00,564 --> 00:45:03,566
doesn't this mean that because
we see these little errors
870
00:45:03,601 --> 00:45:05,234
in the real world,
871
00:45:05,269 --> 00:45:08,270
we're probably running
on somebody's computer?
872
00:45:08,305 --> 00:45:09,705
MIRA: There's a theory out there
873
00:45:09,740 --> 00:45:12,541
that we might already be
living in a simulation,
874
00:45:12,576 --> 00:45:17,012
to which I say, try harder.
875
00:45:17,047 --> 00:45:20,049
This is not a great simulation.
876
00:45:20,084 --> 00:45:23,252
There's still a lot of garbage
happening in the world,
877
00:45:23,287 --> 00:45:26,422
and I don't love the way
it's being simulated.
878
00:45:29,293 --> 00:45:31,093
NARRATOR: The most recent
election has inspired
879
00:45:31,128 --> 00:45:35,865
a new round of 'this can't be
real' in the Twitterverse.
880
00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:38,033
Look, it all goes back
to Descartes,
881
00:45:38,068 --> 00:45:39,935
'I think, therefore I am.'
882
00:45:39,970 --> 00:45:43,072
It's old philosophy
with really new tech.
883
00:45:43,107 --> 00:45:44,707
If I'm a simulation,
884
00:45:44,742 --> 00:45:47,476
should I not bother
going to the gym anymore?
885
00:45:47,511 --> 00:45:52,114
Or will that just mean that
my avatar gets flabby?
886
00:45:52,149 --> 00:45:55,651
You can go down a rabbit hole
thinking about it.
887
00:45:55,686 --> 00:45:58,754
THURSTON: Maybe the race of
beings that controls that world
888
00:45:58,789 --> 00:46:02,324
is so significantly
more powerful,
889
00:46:02,359 --> 00:46:05,394
creative, clever,
and dominating,
890
00:46:05,429 --> 00:46:11,600
that we die out of mere fear,
that we wither under,
891
00:46:11,635 --> 00:46:14,637
'cause we can't handle
that truth.
892
00:46:14,672 --> 00:46:18,073
Maybe the simulation
is to protect us
893
00:46:18,108 --> 00:46:21,644
from a harsher reality.
894
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:23,279
LIPSON: Did we kill ourselves
in between?
895
00:46:23,314 --> 00:46:24,680
Did we lose control?
896
00:46:24,715 --> 00:46:26,849
Is there a battle
between AI and humans?
897
00:46:26,884 --> 00:46:29,485
Is the battle between
the have and have-nots
898
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,254
with AI before that?
899
00:46:32,289 --> 00:46:35,090
NARRATOR: Those are questions
we just can't answer yet.
900
00:46:35,125 --> 00:46:37,193
But believe you me,
I'm hoping we do.
901
00:46:37,228 --> 00:46:39,929
Simulated or not,
in the Year Million,
902
00:46:39,964 --> 00:46:42,131
we will shed
our physical selves,
903
00:46:42,166 --> 00:46:44,166
view the human form
as something
904
00:46:44,201 --> 00:46:47,269
that held our consciousness
and our society back,
905
00:46:47,304 --> 00:46:51,774
in the dirty old dark ages when
we were enslaved to biology.
906
00:46:51,809 --> 00:46:53,142
Let's look down the road,
907
00:46:53,177 --> 00:46:56,045
to after we exist
on some hard drive.
908
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,013
Communication will
change drastically.
909
00:46:58,048 --> 00:47:00,716
Language itself will be
as obsolete as our bodies,
910
00:47:00,751 --> 00:47:02,952
and we'll relate to each other
in new ways
911
00:47:02,987 --> 00:47:06,189
that scientists are just
beginning to grasp.
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