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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:33,634 --> 00:00:35,069 Once upon a time, 2 00:00:35,069 --> 00:00:38,072 there was an average American family, 3 00:00:38,072 --> 00:00:40,374 living in an average American town. 4 00:00:41,542 --> 00:00:43,144 After the family moved, 5 00:00:43,144 --> 00:00:45,446 the father left his familiar carpool, 6 00:00:45,446 --> 00:00:48,649 and began a long, solo commute to work, 7 00:00:48,649 --> 00:00:52,086 and, gradually, he began to change. 8 00:00:52,086 --> 00:00:55,556 He looked the same he dressed the same, 9 00:00:55,556 --> 00:00:59,260 but something was very different. 10 00:00:59,260 --> 00:01:02,296 But this isn't the story about just one man, 11 00:01:02,296 --> 00:01:07,101 it's the story about a media phenomenon 12 00:01:07,101 --> 00:01:10,171 that changed a father, 13 00:01:10,171 --> 00:01:13,207 and divided a nation. 14 00:01:22,450 --> 00:01:25,253 Here's my dad with me when I was a baby. 15 00:01:25,253 --> 00:01:27,188 He really loved me. 16 00:01:27,188 --> 00:01:30,724 This was in Arizona, where I was born. 17 00:01:30,724 --> 00:01:32,260 He was goofy, 18 00:01:32,260 --> 00:01:35,296 like a lot of other dads, I guess. 19 00:01:35,296 --> 00:01:37,798 My dad was a really fun dad. 20 00:01:37,798 --> 00:01:40,434 All the kids in the neighborhood really liked him 21 00:01:40,434 --> 00:01:43,471 because he was funny, and told jokes, 22 00:01:43,471 --> 00:01:44,872 and would play with us. 23 00:01:44,872 --> 00:01:46,607 He was a really good dad. 24 00:01:46,607 --> 00:01:48,309 He loved animals. 25 00:01:48,309 --> 00:01:51,145 He could always be counted on to help persuade my mom 26 00:01:51,145 --> 00:01:53,147 if we wanted another pet. 27 00:01:53,147 --> 00:01:56,350 For vacations, my dad took us on camping trips. 28 00:01:56,350 --> 00:01:57,651 It was a lot of fun. 29 00:01:57,651 --> 00:01:59,720 My mom didn't like it so much. 30 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,556 She didn't really like roughing it. 31 00:02:02,556 --> 00:02:05,125 But we all still had a really great time. 32 00:02:06,494 --> 00:02:08,229 He came from humble roots. 33 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:11,465 He never had any bad words about any race, 34 00:02:11,465 --> 00:02:13,434 people, or person. 35 00:02:13,434 --> 00:02:16,604 I remember this one time when we all went to New York, 36 00:02:16,604 --> 00:02:18,706 and we got outside port authority, 37 00:02:18,706 --> 00:02:21,575 and there was an African-American, homeless man, 38 00:02:21,575 --> 00:02:23,444 and he asked my dad for some money. 39 00:02:23,444 --> 00:02:24,912 My father gave him 40 00:02:24,912 --> 00:02:27,381 what was at that time a decent amount of money, 41 00:02:27,381 --> 00:02:29,350 and called him "sir." 42 00:02:29,350 --> 00:02:31,185 That made such an impression on me, 43 00:02:31,185 --> 00:02:32,420 and taught me 44 00:02:32,420 --> 00:02:35,889 you treat everybody with respect. 45 00:02:35,889 --> 00:02:37,858 We weren't really a political family. 46 00:02:37,858 --> 00:02:41,862 My dad was a non-political Kennedy democrat. 47 00:02:41,862 --> 00:02:45,866 But then, when he started listening to talk radio, 48 00:02:45,866 --> 00:02:48,836 I saw him change. 49 00:02:48,836 --> 00:02:50,704 A lot. 50 00:02:50,704 --> 00:02:53,274 You used to consider yourself a democrat, right? 51 00:02:54,775 --> 00:02:57,245 Yeah, before I... Before I knew anything, 52 00:02:57,245 --> 00:02:59,813 or had any sense, I was stupid then. 53 00:02:59,813 --> 00:03:04,452 I would listen to people with their bullshit, 54 00:03:04,452 --> 00:03:06,487 and they didn't know what they were talking about. 55 00:03:06,487 --> 00:03:09,189 Until then, I was fat, dumb, and happy. 56 00:03:11,425 --> 00:03:14,328 I think I first noticed something different about him 57 00:03:14,328 --> 00:03:15,796 when I came down to visit. 58 00:03:15,796 --> 00:03:18,299 I was working in New York at the time. 59 00:03:18,299 --> 00:03:20,368 He picked me up at the bus station, 60 00:03:20,368 --> 00:03:22,603 and was driving me back to the house. 61 00:03:22,603 --> 00:03:25,606 On the ride home, we passed a Hooters. 62 00:03:25,606 --> 00:03:27,775 He mentioned that he was really pissed off 63 00:03:27,775 --> 00:03:29,643 that some feminazis 64 00:03:29,643 --> 00:03:31,879 did not want women with their breasts hanging out 65 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:33,914 to be working at Hooters. 66 00:03:33,914 --> 00:03:38,018 I said something like, "well, maybe the feminists have a point." 67 00:03:38,018 --> 00:03:39,887 He was so mad, 68 00:03:39,887 --> 00:03:41,855 he threatened to pull the car over 69 00:03:41,855 --> 00:03:45,426 and let me hitchhike home. 70 00:03:54,402 --> 00:03:57,438 I was very surprised, because I was thinking, 71 00:03:57,438 --> 00:04:01,041 "I bet he never even walked into a Hooters before." 72 00:04:01,041 --> 00:04:04,445 He became really angry about stuff, 73 00:04:04,445 --> 00:04:05,746 stuff that I didn't know 74 00:04:05,746 --> 00:04:07,581 he ever even gave a thought to, 75 00:04:07,581 --> 00:04:11,919 like, you know, Hooters. 76 00:04:23,997 --> 00:04:25,833 Whether they are in jail or not, 77 00:04:25,833 --> 00:04:27,368 they are procreating their own kind. 78 00:04:27,368 --> 00:04:28,702 That's why we should 79 00:04:28,702 --> 00:04:30,070 go in there and stop them 80 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:32,005 before they destroy our country. 81 00:04:32,005 --> 00:04:33,507 When we moved, 82 00:04:33,507 --> 00:04:36,977 and he had a very long commute by car, 83 00:04:36,977 --> 00:04:38,979 he would listen to the radio 84 00:04:38,979 --> 00:04:40,714 on the long drive. 85 00:04:40,714 --> 00:04:42,450 Then he started to change. 86 00:04:42,450 --> 00:04:44,385 The feminazis began their quest 87 00:04:44,385 --> 00:04:45,986 to make women more like men. 88 00:04:45,986 --> 00:04:47,020 Dress like us, 89 00:04:47,020 --> 00:04:48,656 acquire power like us, 90 00:04:48,656 --> 00:04:50,324 have careers like us, all that... 91 00:04:50,324 --> 00:04:52,493 Rush Limbaugh’s one of my heroes. 92 00:04:52,493 --> 00:04:55,929 I agree with him in, in politics. 93 00:04:55,929 --> 00:04:58,532 And then his Rush Limbaugh-loving buddy 94 00:04:58,532 --> 00:05:00,734 told him he could listen to more talk-radio at night 95 00:05:00,734 --> 00:05:04,037 with a tiny, portable radio and ear buds. 96 00:05:04,037 --> 00:05:06,774 But it would still disturb my mother. 97 00:05:06,774 --> 00:05:09,677 So he decided to move into the other bedroom, 98 00:05:09,677 --> 00:05:13,947 and then it got worse after he discovered Fox News. 99 00:05:13,947 --> 00:05:16,450 His new beliefs came first. 100 00:05:16,450 --> 00:05:18,051 It was almost like he joined a cult, 101 00:05:18,051 --> 00:05:20,053 or had a new religion. 102 00:05:20,053 --> 00:05:21,989 Frank is the family pest. 103 00:05:21,989 --> 00:05:24,625 He has to force his political views on all of us. 104 00:05:24,625 --> 00:05:25,726 I did it Frank's way. 105 00:05:25,726 --> 00:05:26,827 It was his way, or the highway 106 00:05:26,827 --> 00:05:29,863 when it came to politics. 107 00:05:29,863 --> 00:05:32,800 I was not aware that Frank 108 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,436 had strong political leanings, 109 00:05:35,436 --> 00:05:36,737 one way or the other. 110 00:05:36,737 --> 00:05:38,739 It was just pretty much food and family 111 00:05:38,739 --> 00:05:40,374 was what he was interested in. 112 00:05:40,374 --> 00:05:42,876 After e-mailing came in, 113 00:05:42,876 --> 00:05:45,012 yeah, then you get all kinds. 114 00:05:45,012 --> 00:05:47,648 I would get political e-mails too, 115 00:05:47,648 --> 00:05:49,082 but they were factual, 116 00:05:49,082 --> 00:05:50,751 bringing things up-to-date, 117 00:05:50,751 --> 00:05:53,954 where dad's e-mails were hateful against democrats. 118 00:05:53,954 --> 00:05:55,889 And he would forward them to me 119 00:05:55,889 --> 00:05:57,991 and the children. 120 00:05:57,991 --> 00:06:01,729 And I asked him, please, don't send these e-mails 121 00:06:01,729 --> 00:06:03,030 or I'll block you. 122 00:06:03,030 --> 00:06:04,732 He started getting fanatical. 123 00:06:04,732 --> 00:06:07,167 Oh, he would send some nasty e-mail back, 124 00:06:07,167 --> 00:06:09,036 like, "f-you." 125 00:06:09,036 --> 00:06:14,508 Or "you guys are full of S, blank, blank, T." 126 00:06:15,743 --> 00:06:17,645 I... I started getting his e-mails 127 00:06:17,645 --> 00:06:20,581 when I got 394 e-mails. 128 00:06:20,581 --> 00:06:23,116 I originally thought it was somebody else, 129 00:06:23,116 --> 00:06:25,419 other than Frank Senko sending me things. 130 00:06:25,419 --> 00:06:28,522 And, in fact, he didn't author any of these. 131 00:06:28,522 --> 00:06:30,658 They were just, you know, recycled things 132 00:06:30,658 --> 00:06:33,494 that he received from his other, uh... 133 00:06:33,494 --> 00:06:34,928 Right wing cronies. 134 00:06:34,928 --> 00:06:36,697 I was you know, 135 00:06:36,697 --> 00:06:39,066 wondering what happened to Frank 136 00:06:39,066 --> 00:06:40,934 since the time I saw him. 137 00:06:40,934 --> 00:06:45,773 I'd always thought that he was capable of, uh... 138 00:06:45,773 --> 00:06:47,174 Deeply thinking about issues. 139 00:06:47,174 --> 00:06:50,944 But it was apparent at that point that... 140 00:06:50,944 --> 00:06:52,946 It's not that he wasn't capable of it, 141 00:06:52,946 --> 00:06:55,115 he wasn't interested in it. 142 00:06:55,115 --> 00:06:57,885 And that, to me, was a dangerous signal. 143 00:06:57,885 --> 00:07:00,087 Brain has not only been washed, 144 00:07:00,087 --> 00:07:02,856 as they say, it has been dry-cleaned. 145 00:07:05,859 --> 00:07:07,928 So, what did happen to dad? 146 00:07:07,928 --> 00:07:09,763 Was he brainwashed? 147 00:07:09,763 --> 00:07:11,131 I didn't know. 148 00:07:11,131 --> 00:07:13,033 This went on for years. 149 00:07:13,033 --> 00:07:15,002 So I finally decided to make a film 150 00:07:15,002 --> 00:07:16,904 to figure it out. 151 00:07:16,904 --> 00:07:18,639 Jennifer, is this your book? 152 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:19,640 Yes. 153 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:20,741 He's my hero. 154 00:07:20,741 --> 00:07:22,075 Why is he your hero? 155 00:07:22,075 --> 00:07:23,677 Politically, I agree with him. 156 00:07:23,677 --> 00:07:25,813 Beautifully. I always agree with him. 157 00:07:25,813 --> 00:07:29,683 We knew better than to discuss politics together. 158 00:07:29,683 --> 00:07:33,887 Because it would just end in arguments and bitterness. 159 00:07:33,887 --> 00:07:36,690 I had a kickstarter campaign to raise some money, 160 00:07:36,690 --> 00:07:40,761 and before I knew it, people were coming out of the woodwork, 161 00:07:40,761 --> 00:07:43,731 contacting me from all over the country 162 00:07:43,731 --> 00:07:45,566 telling me similar stories. 163 00:07:45,566 --> 00:07:46,834 And I thought, 164 00:07:46,834 --> 00:07:49,970 "wow, this is a real phenomenon." 165 00:07:51,238 --> 00:07:53,073 They just drummed into her, 166 00:07:53,073 --> 00:07:54,542 what they wanted her to hear. 167 00:07:54,542 --> 00:07:55,943 She's a completely different person. 168 00:07:55,943 --> 00:07:57,578 My brother became very fact-resistant. 169 00:07:57,578 --> 00:07:59,513 My reaction was, 170 00:07:59,513 --> 00:08:01,649 "who are you, and what have you done with my stepfather? 171 00:08:01,649 --> 00:08:03,884 Disjointed existence. 172 00:08:03,884 --> 00:08:05,118 And he was completely changed. 173 00:08:05,118 --> 00:08:08,221 He was... He was bitter and angry. 174 00:08:08,221 --> 00:08:10,658 At one point, he threatened to get a bus. 175 00:08:10,658 --> 00:08:11,859 Because I was challenging... 176 00:08:11,859 --> 00:08:13,561 He became obsessed. 177 00:08:13,561 --> 00:08:14,828 And she had never been like that. 178 00:08:14,828 --> 00:08:16,530 He was carrying a small pistol. 179 00:08:16,530 --> 00:08:18,298 - She was not hateful. - Shot twice... 180 00:08:18,298 --> 00:08:20,568 It broke my heart to see my parents this way. 181 00:08:20,568 --> 00:08:22,636 Used to be very loving, caring, patient... 182 00:08:22,636 --> 00:08:24,772 I don't really know these people anymore. 183 00:08:24,772 --> 00:08:27,641 He just goes on these tirades that never make sense. 184 00:08:27,641 --> 00:08:28,909 Fundamentally repulsive. 185 00:08:30,878 --> 00:08:32,279 I spoke with each one, 186 00:08:32,279 --> 00:08:35,115 and found we all had one thing in common. 187 00:08:35,115 --> 00:08:39,086 Someone close to us became enraged and unreachable 188 00:08:39,086 --> 00:08:41,154 after excessively listening to, 189 00:08:41,154 --> 00:08:43,924 or watching right-wing media. 190 00:08:43,924 --> 00:08:45,793 How did this happen? 191 00:08:45,793 --> 00:08:47,227 The great story here, 192 00:08:47,227 --> 00:08:49,262 for anybody willing to find it, 193 00:08:49,262 --> 00:08:51,098 and write about it and explain it, 194 00:08:51,098 --> 00:08:53,701 is this vast ring-wing conspiracy. 195 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,576 Decades ago, I was a junior hippie. 196 00:09:02,576 --> 00:09:04,277 My big brother was the real thing, 197 00:09:04,277 --> 00:09:06,313 with hair down to his waist. 198 00:09:06,313 --> 00:09:08,181 I witnessed and felt part of the social revolution 199 00:09:09,917 --> 00:09:11,719 happening at that time, 200 00:09:11,719 --> 00:09:14,622 and I believed our country was going in a more... 201 00:09:14,622 --> 00:09:17,090 Open direction. 202 00:09:17,090 --> 00:09:19,760 Years later, when Reagan came in, 203 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,995 I could feel the country was shifting 204 00:09:21,995 --> 00:09:24,665 to a more hardened place. 205 00:09:24,665 --> 00:09:27,801 And that's around the time my dad started to change. 206 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:33,941 It wouldn't have necessarily thought 207 00:09:33,941 --> 00:09:36,376 to go all the way back to the sixties, 208 00:09:36,376 --> 00:09:38,378 but author Claire Conner, 209 00:09:38,378 --> 00:09:40,714 who wrote "wrapped in the flag," 210 00:09:40,714 --> 00:09:43,984 contacted me after she saw my trailer. 211 00:09:43,984 --> 00:09:46,687 Her personal experience with the John Birch society 212 00:09:46,687 --> 00:09:50,257 helped put into place a major piece of the puzzle. 213 00:09:50,257 --> 00:09:53,661 The John Birch society came out of the McCarthy era, 214 00:09:53,661 --> 00:09:56,196 and was built on this concept 215 00:09:56,196 --> 00:10:01,134 that the communist menace was right around the corner. 216 00:10:01,134 --> 00:10:02,836 Very quickly, 217 00:10:02,836 --> 00:10:06,740 the John Birch society moved from "those bad guys," 218 00:10:06,740 --> 00:10:11,311 over in the Soviet Union, China, or in Cuba, 219 00:10:11,311 --> 00:10:14,882 to the idea that we had those bad guys 220 00:10:14,882 --> 00:10:17,718 right in our own government. 221 00:10:17,718 --> 00:10:20,120 In 1964, republican candidate 222 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,256 Barry Goldwater, had many Birch supporters. 223 00:10:23,256 --> 00:10:26,093 But this damaged him because years earlier, 224 00:10:26,093 --> 00:10:29,162 word had leaked out that their founder, Robert Welch, 225 00:10:29,162 --> 00:10:30,664 had written a secret book 226 00:10:30,664 --> 00:10:32,966 branding sitting republican president 227 00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:34,367 and world war ii hero, 228 00:10:34,367 --> 00:10:37,805 Dwight D. Eisenhower a communist. 229 00:10:37,805 --> 00:10:41,341 The Birchers were labeled as, "nutty extremists." 230 00:10:41,341 --> 00:10:45,412 Goldwater and his platform were hammered by Lyndon Johnson. 231 00:10:45,412 --> 00:10:47,915 The right wing was declared dead. 232 00:10:47,915 --> 00:10:50,150 So, they started to hit back. 233 00:10:50,150 --> 00:10:52,185 One of the most powerful ways, 234 00:10:52,185 --> 00:10:54,321 was through creating their own media. 235 00:10:54,321 --> 00:10:56,023 I first spotted David Brock 236 00:10:56,023 --> 00:10:57,457 in a documentary called 237 00:10:57,457 --> 00:10:58,992 "the hunting of the president." 238 00:10:58,992 --> 00:11:01,261 He had been a conservative operative 239 00:11:01,261 --> 00:11:03,030 involved in the organized effort 240 00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:05,866 of trying to take president Clinton down. 241 00:11:05,866 --> 00:11:07,701 But he came to regret it, 242 00:11:07,701 --> 00:11:09,970 and wrote about what he learned from an insider's view. 243 00:11:09,970 --> 00:11:11,138 When I read his book, 244 00:11:11,138 --> 00:11:12,806 "the republican noise machine," 245 00:11:12,806 --> 00:11:14,908 I knew I had to talk to him. 246 00:11:14,908 --> 00:11:16,844 It took me a year and half to get him, 247 00:11:16,844 --> 00:11:19,713 but I finally got to interview David Brock. 248 00:11:19,713 --> 00:11:21,214 One of the very first things 249 00:11:21,214 --> 00:11:23,016 that the conservative movement did 250 00:11:23,016 --> 00:11:27,220 in trying to get control of the debate in the country 251 00:11:27,220 --> 00:11:28,989 was to do that through the media, 252 00:11:28,989 --> 00:11:31,224 and, uh, they established 253 00:11:31,224 --> 00:11:33,160 a couple of different organizations 254 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,996 that market the notion of liberal media bias 255 00:11:35,996 --> 00:11:37,464 to the public. 256 00:11:37,464 --> 00:11:41,101 And so, one of them is called accuracy media 257 00:11:41,101 --> 00:11:42,836 by someone named Reed Irvine, 258 00:11:42,836 --> 00:11:44,905 who had worked in the Nixon administration. 259 00:11:44,905 --> 00:11:46,774 And basically, the idea behind this group 260 00:11:46,774 --> 00:11:50,177 was to counter their feeling 261 00:11:50,177 --> 00:11:53,947 that the media was opposed to Nixon's policies in Vietnam. 262 00:11:53,947 --> 00:11:55,182 ...more certain than ever 263 00:11:55,182 --> 00:11:57,284 that the bloody experience of Vietnam, 264 00:11:57,284 --> 00:11:59,219 is to end in a stalemate. 265 00:11:59,219 --> 00:12:03,857 You could see how the campaign to discredit the media 266 00:12:03,857 --> 00:12:08,428 would lay the groundwork for a vast alternative media that would come later. 267 00:12:11,531 --> 00:12:13,500 There are a number of reasons, 268 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:14,835 one provides him with the... 269 00:12:14,835 --> 00:12:16,804 One night, 270 00:12:16,804 --> 00:12:18,772 I was watching Bill Moyers, on channel 13. 271 00:12:18,772 --> 00:12:21,875 And I learned about the role of Roger Ailes. 272 00:12:21,875 --> 00:12:24,011 And, I went back to the Nixon administration, 273 00:12:24,011 --> 00:12:27,480 and Roger Ailes in the... Who is the chairman of Fox News, 274 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,282 was in the Nixon administration. 275 00:12:29,282 --> 00:12:31,384 He was Nixon's television advisor. 276 00:12:31,384 --> 00:12:34,087 - Absolutely. - -Then I found Gabriel Sherman. 277 00:12:34,087 --> 00:12:35,956 He was the guy to talk to 278 00:12:35,956 --> 00:12:38,525 about Roger Ailes, for sure. 279 00:12:38,525 --> 00:12:40,560 Roger Ailes understood that TV is about one thing. 280 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:42,095 It's about emotion. 281 00:12:42,095 --> 00:12:43,864 And you need to communicate to the audience, 282 00:12:43,864 --> 00:12:45,933 and hook into them on an emotional level. 283 00:12:48,869 --> 00:12:50,403 And Richard Nixon, who by all accounts 284 00:12:50,403 --> 00:12:52,372 was a very smart, a brilliant man, 285 00:12:52,372 --> 00:12:54,074 who had command of the issues, 286 00:12:54,074 --> 00:12:55,809 he couldn't connect with the audience, 287 00:12:55,809 --> 00:12:58,846 you know, he came off as stiff, as shifty-eyed. 288 00:12:58,846 --> 00:13:01,414 Famously, in the 1960 presidential debate 289 00:13:01,414 --> 00:13:02,415 against John Kennedy, 290 00:13:02,415 --> 00:13:03,583 he was sweating. 291 00:13:03,583 --> 00:13:05,452 It was a terrible performance. 292 00:13:05,452 --> 00:13:07,454 Then he meets Roger Ailes in 1968, 293 00:13:07,454 --> 00:13:10,557 at the time Roger ales was a young producer 294 00:13:10,557 --> 00:13:13,326 the wunderkind of television at the age of 26. 295 00:13:13,326 --> 00:13:15,062 And, so, Roger Ailes coached Richard Nixon 296 00:13:15,062 --> 00:13:16,529 on how to communicate those ideas 297 00:13:16,529 --> 00:13:19,232 to the average American who is watching television 298 00:13:19,232 --> 00:13:21,101 every night at dinner table. 299 00:13:21,101 --> 00:13:24,204 Richard Nixon, whose political career almost blew up 300 00:13:24,204 --> 00:13:25,438 because of television, 301 00:13:25,438 --> 00:13:27,440 was able to win the presidency. 302 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,842 Because he mastered it. 303 00:13:28,842 --> 00:13:30,911 At the time, in the late 1960s, 304 00:13:30,911 --> 00:13:33,313 TV had finally become a mass medium. 305 00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:35,148 And yet, there really weren't people 306 00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:37,017 who had decoded the medium. 307 00:13:37,017 --> 00:13:39,586 Roger ales told Nixon that to appeal to the audience, 308 00:13:39,586 --> 00:13:42,489 he needed to use short, snappy, one-liners. 309 00:13:42,489 --> 00:13:44,391 That can stick in the audience's mind. 310 00:13:44,391 --> 00:13:48,528 A great philosophy is never one without defeat. 311 00:13:48,528 --> 00:13:50,430 It is always one without fear. 312 00:13:50,430 --> 00:13:53,366 And, so, really, Roger Ailes was a pioneer 313 00:13:53,366 --> 00:13:55,202 in the whole art of the sound bite. 314 00:13:55,202 --> 00:13:57,871 He told Nixon that America is dumb, 315 00:13:57,871 --> 00:13:59,106 so give them something simple, 316 00:13:59,106 --> 00:14:01,241 boil it down, and they'll get it. 317 00:14:01,241 --> 00:14:05,112 Ailes was so involved with advising the administration, 318 00:14:05,112 --> 00:14:07,080 he even outlined Nixon's role 319 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,317 in the lighting of the white house Christmas tree. 320 00:14:10,317 --> 00:14:13,386 But his designs for the GOP went much deeper. 321 00:14:13,386 --> 00:14:16,323 Ailes was outlining a way to avoid, 322 00:14:16,323 --> 00:14:18,458 "the censorship, the priorities, 323 00:14:18,458 --> 00:14:21,194 "and the prejudices of network news selectors 324 00:14:21,194 --> 00:14:22,529 and disseminators." 325 00:14:22,529 --> 00:14:25,432 Written in 1970, this memo talks about 326 00:14:25,432 --> 00:14:28,301 how television had become the most powerful news source 327 00:14:28,301 --> 00:14:30,537 because, "people are lazy," 328 00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:33,640 and want their thinking done for them. 329 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,176 It became the blueprint for Fox News. 330 00:14:36,176 --> 00:14:38,545 And although it's authorship is unclear, 331 00:14:38,545 --> 00:14:40,613 Roger Ailes' handwritten notes 332 00:14:40,613 --> 00:14:43,383 are seen throughout the document. 333 00:14:43,383 --> 00:14:45,518 There are simple things 334 00:14:45,518 --> 00:14:47,154 that the American people believe in. 335 00:14:47,154 --> 00:14:50,090 It's the reason John Wayne is still the top... 336 00:14:50,090 --> 00:14:52,359 One of the top five movie stars of all time. 337 00:14:52,359 --> 00:14:54,361 He's been dead for 40 years. 338 00:14:54,361 --> 00:14:55,528 Uh... 339 00:14:55,528 --> 00:14:57,130 But you always knew about him. 340 00:14:57,130 --> 00:14:59,232 "Don't touch my woman, don't steal my horse, 341 00:14:59,232 --> 00:15:00,433 and don't ever draw a gun on me." 342 00:15:00,433 --> 00:15:02,135 - Otherwise... -we can friends. 343 00:15:02,135 --> 00:15:04,304 We're gonna get along, we're gonna get along fine. 344 00:15:04,304 --> 00:15:06,406 It offers ya a little action. 345 00:15:11,945 --> 00:15:13,646 Roger Ailes was fired from the White House 346 00:15:13,646 --> 00:15:15,715 for seeming like he could go too rogue. 347 00:15:15,715 --> 00:15:17,317 Basically, he was caught 348 00:15:17,317 --> 00:15:19,019 talking behind Richard Nixon's back 349 00:15:19,019 --> 00:15:20,487 to author Joe McGinniss. 350 00:15:20,487 --> 00:15:23,656 After that, Ailes started working for TVN, 351 00:15:23,656 --> 00:15:27,327 a television news network owned by the Coors family. 352 00:15:27,327 --> 00:15:32,565 Their goal was to be like a tugboat 353 00:15:32,565 --> 00:15:34,634 to the queen Mary. 354 00:15:34,634 --> 00:15:36,503 They were just going to be going along, 355 00:15:36,503 --> 00:15:39,572 and pushing the boat a little further to the right, 356 00:15:39,572 --> 00:15:41,574 and a little further to the right, 357 00:15:41,574 --> 00:15:43,343 and their goal is, ultimately, 358 00:15:43,343 --> 00:15:49,282 to put the great ship over as far right as they could. 359 00:15:49,282 --> 00:15:51,251 And Ailes was working for them at the time, 360 00:15:51,251 --> 00:15:53,353 and he... 361 00:15:53,353 --> 00:15:55,188 He didn't know much about news, 362 00:15:55,188 --> 00:15:57,124 I'm not even sure... 363 00:15:57,124 --> 00:15:59,059 I know that he knows much about news now 364 00:15:59,059 --> 00:16:00,593 but he sure does know television. 365 00:16:00,593 --> 00:16:03,363 He's as good at television as anyone in the country, 366 00:16:03,363 --> 00:16:05,432 and he's a great propagandist. 367 00:16:05,432 --> 00:16:06,566 By the way, 368 00:16:06,566 --> 00:16:08,201 the motto they came up with, 369 00:16:08,201 --> 00:16:10,737 was "fair and balanced." 370 00:16:12,505 --> 00:16:14,441 My father and my step-mother 371 00:16:14,441 --> 00:16:18,678 used to be very loving, and caring, patient, 372 00:16:18,678 --> 00:16:21,548 very kind-hearted, Christian-based 373 00:16:21,548 --> 00:16:23,283 pe... individuals, 374 00:16:23,283 --> 00:16:25,485 and we noticed that, 375 00:16:25,485 --> 00:16:28,455 they became more hostile towards people 376 00:16:28,455 --> 00:16:32,459 that were not believing the way that they did. 377 00:16:32,459 --> 00:16:35,695 Their conversation became very hateful. 378 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:44,471 The brilliance of Nixon was to bend a politics 379 00:16:44,471 --> 00:16:47,774 that was based on, uh... deference, 380 00:16:47,774 --> 00:16:49,776 to money and plutocracy, 381 00:16:49,776 --> 00:16:52,679 and frame it in terms 382 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:55,382 of a kind of cultural populism. 383 00:16:55,382 --> 00:16:56,583 The idea that 384 00:16:56,583 --> 00:16:58,318 the real snobs are not the people 385 00:16:58,318 --> 00:17:00,487 who hire and fire, 386 00:17:00,487 --> 00:17:03,523 but the people who kind of decide cultural trends. 387 00:17:03,523 --> 00:17:06,093 When Nixon was running for president, 388 00:17:06,093 --> 00:17:07,527 he had a problem. 389 00:17:07,527 --> 00:17:10,297 In 1964, Bill Porter lost, 390 00:17:10,297 --> 00:17:12,132 conservative was a dirty word, 391 00:17:12,132 --> 00:17:13,433 everybody wanted to be a liberal. 392 00:17:13,433 --> 00:17:15,402 Nixon comes along in '67, 393 00:17:15,402 --> 00:17:17,837 and he says, we gotta get working people 394 00:17:17,837 --> 00:17:19,639 to vote for Nixon, how do we do this? 395 00:17:19,639 --> 00:17:22,742 Before 1964 and '67, 396 00:17:22,742 --> 00:17:26,313 the anti-war movement felt like a betrayal to many veterans, 397 00:17:26,313 --> 00:17:28,315 who saw it as unpatriotic. 398 00:17:28,315 --> 00:17:29,649 Nixon seized on this 399 00:17:29,649 --> 00:17:31,718 and was openly hostile to the protestors. 400 00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:33,253 At the same time, 401 00:17:33,253 --> 00:17:34,654 woman were pushing the boundaries 402 00:17:34,654 --> 00:17:36,289 of societal norms, 403 00:17:36,289 --> 00:17:37,857 which dictated they stay at home, 404 00:17:37,857 --> 00:17:40,527 raise children, and dress like ladies. 405 00:17:40,527 --> 00:17:43,696 Nixon came out for traditional family values, 406 00:17:43,696 --> 00:17:45,732 thus capturing the vote of the working men, 407 00:17:45,732 --> 00:17:48,401 who felt threatened and didn't like what they saw 408 00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:51,304 as "radical feminism." 409 00:17:56,876 --> 00:18:00,847 In 1964, the civil rights act was passed. 410 00:18:00,847 --> 00:18:03,183 Nixon capitalized on both racist, 411 00:18:03,183 --> 00:18:05,352 and economic fears of whites, 412 00:18:05,352 --> 00:18:07,720 and ran against school busing, 413 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,822 and for law and order. 414 00:18:09,822 --> 00:18:15,495 The Republicans could change the party labels in the south 415 00:18:15,495 --> 00:18:21,368 by appealing to the racism and the strong opposition 416 00:18:21,368 --> 00:18:23,570 to the civil rights legislation 417 00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:26,473 and making that there stand. 418 00:18:26,473 --> 00:18:27,874 In the spring of 1970, 419 00:18:27,874 --> 00:18:30,677 after Nixon orders the invasion of Cambodia, 420 00:18:30,677 --> 00:18:33,246 which was the... The instigation 421 00:18:33,246 --> 00:18:35,548 for the same protest at Kent State University 422 00:18:35,548 --> 00:18:37,784 that led to the deaths of the four students. 423 00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:40,653 One of the protests was at federal hall, 424 00:18:40,653 --> 00:18:42,189 in lower Manhattan. 425 00:18:42,189 --> 00:18:44,457 And right in the middle of this anti-war rally, 426 00:18:44,457 --> 00:18:47,894 this almost, marauding army of construction workers 427 00:18:47,894 --> 00:18:50,197 came marching in, in their hard-hats, 428 00:18:50,197 --> 00:18:53,166 and, started beating the protestors 429 00:18:53,166 --> 00:18:54,767 with their hard-hats. 430 00:18:54,767 --> 00:18:57,704 It was all captured on film. It was on the evening news. 431 00:19:03,776 --> 00:19:10,483 Rather than, um, excoriating these, basically, vigilantes, 432 00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:12,252 Richard Nixon invites the head 433 00:19:12,252 --> 00:19:14,487 of construction trades in New York, 434 00:19:14,487 --> 00:19:16,189 Peter Brennan, 435 00:19:16,189 --> 00:19:18,458 and Peter Brennan presents the commander in chief 436 00:19:18,458 --> 00:19:20,427 with a ceremonial hardhat 437 00:19:20,427 --> 00:19:22,429 so he's almost, kind of, throwing his lot 438 00:19:22,429 --> 00:19:23,496 with the people 439 00:19:23,496 --> 00:19:24,931 who are beating the protestors. 440 00:19:24,931 --> 00:19:27,967 He created conservative populism. 441 00:19:27,967 --> 00:19:29,936 We're gonna bring them together 442 00:19:29,936 --> 00:19:32,272 and... and, have them vote 443 00:19:32,272 --> 00:19:34,874 on the basis of their morality, 444 00:19:34,874 --> 00:19:36,643 against their self-interest. 445 00:19:36,643 --> 00:19:38,378 It's not vote on their economics, 446 00:19:38,378 --> 00:19:40,847 but vote on the moral issues. 447 00:19:40,847 --> 00:19:42,682 So that was Nixon's contribution 448 00:19:42,682 --> 00:19:45,818 in pushing the country a little further to the right. 449 00:19:45,818 --> 00:19:47,820 In the meantime, my little brother and I 450 00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:50,423 had both got into the hippie culture, 451 00:19:50,423 --> 00:19:52,659 even my dad kind of did. 452 00:19:58,698 --> 00:20:00,233 In the '60s, you had the voters 453 00:20:00,233 --> 00:20:01,701 and rights act, and the civil rights act. 454 00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:04,504 All this happened in about a 10, 11-year period. 455 00:20:04,504 --> 00:20:06,939 You know, by '71, you had cities burning 456 00:20:06,939 --> 00:20:08,475 because people were saying 457 00:20:08,475 --> 00:20:10,243 the change is not happening fast enough. 458 00:20:10,243 --> 00:20:13,413 Virtually every group in America 459 00:20:13,413 --> 00:20:15,682 other than wealthy white guys 460 00:20:15,682 --> 00:20:16,883 was in open revolt, 461 00:20:16,883 --> 00:20:18,718 and calling for change. 462 00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:20,820 Now, it wasn't tear down the government change. 463 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:22,822 I mean, this is being covered by the CBS evening news 464 00:20:22,822 --> 00:20:25,325 and Walter Cronkite. 465 00:20:25,325 --> 00:20:26,426 I was so lucky 466 00:20:26,426 --> 00:20:28,595 to be introduced to Jeff Cohen. 467 00:20:28,595 --> 00:20:30,497 Aside from being a first-rate journalist 468 00:20:30,497 --> 00:20:31,831 and author, 469 00:20:31,831 --> 00:20:35,302 he was a former commentator at Fox News, 470 00:20:35,302 --> 00:20:37,604 and an all-around mensch. 471 00:20:37,604 --> 00:20:40,773 As a result of these movements for social change, 472 00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:43,510 especially among young people, 473 00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:45,512 there was a real backlash 474 00:20:45,512 --> 00:20:48,748 in the elite centers of conservative power, 475 00:20:48,748 --> 00:20:51,017 and corporate power. 476 00:20:51,017 --> 00:20:53,720 And one of the symbols of this backlash 477 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,356 was a memo written by the general council, 478 00:20:56,356 --> 00:20:58,325 whose name was Lewis Powell. 479 00:20:58,325 --> 00:21:00,460 It was starting to get really interesting. 480 00:21:00,460 --> 00:21:02,895 This confidential Lewis Powell memo 481 00:21:02,895 --> 00:21:05,298 was from August 1971, 482 00:21:05,298 --> 00:21:07,867 just a year after the Roger Ailes memo. 483 00:21:07,867 --> 00:21:09,936 And so, Lewis Powell wrote a memo 484 00:21:09,936 --> 00:21:12,439 to the head of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, 485 00:21:12,439 --> 00:21:14,307 saying Americans view businesses 486 00:21:14,307 --> 00:21:15,608 as the big, bad guys, 487 00:21:15,608 --> 00:21:18,345 and people like Ralph Nader as the heroes. 488 00:21:19,579 --> 00:21:20,947 What he claimed is, 489 00:21:20,947 --> 00:21:23,082 that the whole country is being taken over 490 00:21:23,082 --> 00:21:24,551 by the radical left. 491 00:21:24,551 --> 00:21:27,019 The government, the media, 492 00:21:27,019 --> 00:21:28,855 the universities, of course. 493 00:21:28,855 --> 00:21:30,723 He said basically the following, 494 00:21:30,723 --> 00:21:32,024 "we have a problem. 495 00:21:32,024 --> 00:21:34,327 Our best and brightest of our students 496 00:21:34,327 --> 00:21:37,430 do not want to become conservative businessmen. 497 00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:38,698 We have to change this. 498 00:21:38,698 --> 00:21:40,833 We have to get wealthy conservatives 499 00:21:40,833 --> 00:21:42,535 to put their money together 500 00:21:42,535 --> 00:21:45,972 to appoint professors in major universities 501 00:21:45,972 --> 00:21:47,574 to teach our principles. 502 00:21:47,574 --> 00:21:50,643 We have to set-up, and support organizations 503 00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:52,845 in major universities to do this." 504 00:21:52,845 --> 00:21:55,014 They said, we can't trust the universities. 505 00:21:55,014 --> 00:21:57,884 We have to set-up our own research establishments 506 00:21:57,884 --> 00:21:59,452 which became the think-tanks. 507 00:21:59,452 --> 00:22:02,455 We have to make sure that they get published. 508 00:22:02,455 --> 00:22:03,556 Start journals, 509 00:22:03,556 --> 00:22:04,757 start publishing houses 510 00:22:04,757 --> 00:22:06,993 so they can publish their books, 511 00:22:06,993 --> 00:22:10,630 and we have to buy media so their ideas can get out. 512 00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:12,064 These were right wing think tanks 513 00:22:12,064 --> 00:22:13,633 putting forward stuff 514 00:22:13,633 --> 00:22:15,868 that basically wasn't academically sound, 515 00:22:15,868 --> 00:22:17,537 or intellectually sound, 516 00:22:17,537 --> 00:22:19,506 but had good propaganda value. 517 00:22:19,506 --> 00:22:21,874 Powell, after writing the memo, 518 00:22:21,874 --> 00:22:24,811 was appointed by Nixon to be on the supreme court. 519 00:22:24,811 --> 00:22:26,145 So, they set up this infrastructure, 520 00:22:26,145 --> 00:22:27,580 and then, ultimately, 521 00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:28,848 it led to the right wing media 522 00:22:28,848 --> 00:22:29,849 itself. 523 00:22:29,849 --> 00:22:31,017 Where they were setting up 524 00:22:31,017 --> 00:22:33,786 their own channels of communication 525 00:22:33,786 --> 00:22:37,857 and that was the big boom in right wing talk radio 526 00:22:37,857 --> 00:22:39,826 nationally and across the country 527 00:22:39,826 --> 00:22:40,993 in every locale. 528 00:22:40,993 --> 00:22:44,431 And ultimately, Fox News channel. 529 00:22:44,431 --> 00:22:47,767 This Lewis Powell memo, was extremely influential. 530 00:22:47,767 --> 00:22:49,802 It impacted the realms of politics, 531 00:22:49,802 --> 00:22:54,741 judicial law, media, and education. 532 00:22:54,741 --> 00:22:57,444 They have regular meetings of various kinds. 533 00:22:57,444 --> 00:22:59,846 The best known are the Grover Norquist 534 00:22:59,846 --> 00:23:02,148 Wednesday morning meetings. 535 00:23:02,148 --> 00:23:05,051 Now, this has been going on for a good 20 years. 536 00:23:05,051 --> 00:23:07,153 Norquist was so proud of his meetings, 537 00:23:07,153 --> 00:23:08,588 he invited my students 538 00:23:08,588 --> 00:23:10,056 to attend them for three months. 539 00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:14,827 There were people there from groups that represented 540 00:23:14,827 --> 00:23:18,097 the full gamut of political issues 541 00:23:18,097 --> 00:23:19,198 on the right. 542 00:23:19,198 --> 00:23:21,901 From fur trade commissions, 543 00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:23,903 to Evangelicals. 544 00:23:23,903 --> 00:23:26,706 The real genius of the meeting 545 00:23:26,706 --> 00:23:30,743 is that you can get these dozens of people 546 00:23:30,743 --> 00:23:32,779 who might not otherwise agree, 547 00:23:32,779 --> 00:23:36,783 into the same room, every seven days. 548 00:23:36,783 --> 00:23:38,951 Talking, and sort of ironing out 549 00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:40,587 their differences. 550 00:23:40,587 --> 00:23:44,824 As long as they're on board with pro-life, pro-gun, 551 00:23:44,824 --> 00:23:48,060 and an anti-tax agenda, you're with us. 552 00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:52,765 Writing up talking points which then gets sent out 553 00:23:52,765 --> 00:23:55,968 to all the people who are around the country, 554 00:23:55,968 --> 00:23:58,137 who are gonna be booked on radio and TV, 555 00:23:58,137 --> 00:24:00,540 and by 5 o'clock tonight, everybody saying that, 556 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:01,808 the same thing. 557 00:24:01,808 --> 00:24:03,510 We'll take on Obamacare regulations, 558 00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:05,545 that threaten the 40-hour workweek. 559 00:24:05,545 --> 00:24:07,146 Let's put on his desk, things like 560 00:24:07,146 --> 00:24:08,915 restore the 40-hour workweek. 561 00:24:08,915 --> 00:24:10,983 The loss of the 40-hour workweek. 562 00:24:10,983 --> 00:24:13,520 Big, big mistake, that ought to be restored. 563 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,954 We must take action, 564 00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:17,490 and restore the traditional 40-hour workweek. 565 00:24:17,490 --> 00:24:20,693 And by 10 o'clock, it's on the daily show. 566 00:24:20,693 --> 00:24:23,596 Obamacare will destroy all that we once held dear 567 00:24:23,596 --> 00:24:25,698 in this country, by requiring health insurance 568 00:24:25,698 --> 00:24:27,199 from employers. 569 00:24:27,199 --> 00:24:30,036 For the 15% of Americans who don't currently get that. 570 00:24:30,036 --> 00:24:32,238 The law only applies to full-time workers, 571 00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:35,041 people who work 30, or more hours a week. 572 00:24:35,041 --> 00:24:36,208 And guess what? 573 00:24:36,208 --> 00:24:37,944 A lot of employers are saying, 574 00:24:37,944 --> 00:24:39,979 "we don't want to pay for these healthcare benefits, 575 00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:41,614 so we're gonna move full-time workers, 576 00:24:41,614 --> 00:24:43,583 to part-time workers." 577 00:24:43,583 --> 00:24:47,920 The Powell memorandum was written in 1971, 578 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,659 and the Heritage Foundation started in 1973. 579 00:24:52,659 --> 00:24:56,228 The effect of having the conservative think tanks 580 00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:59,265 clearly, outgunning and outnumbering 581 00:24:59,265 --> 00:25:01,868 and outfunding the think tanks of the left, 582 00:25:01,868 --> 00:25:03,269 has been much more effective 583 00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:06,539 in dominating policy discussions. 584 00:25:09,141 --> 00:25:11,143 There was a universal agreement, 585 00:25:11,143 --> 00:25:12,979 that the goal of journalism 586 00:25:12,979 --> 00:25:15,047 was objectivity, 587 00:25:15,047 --> 00:25:21,120 and to discern the truth of conflicting claims. 588 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,056 The conservatives moved the argument from objectivity 589 00:25:24,056 --> 00:25:25,992 to one of balance. 590 00:25:25,992 --> 00:25:30,830 Under the rubric of balance, the conservatives do better. 591 00:25:30,830 --> 00:25:33,933 Because the way the media now treats balance 592 00:25:33,933 --> 00:25:37,704 is there's 99% of scientific consensus 593 00:25:37,704 --> 00:25:39,171 on global warming, 594 00:25:39,171 --> 00:25:42,241 and 1% of scientists funded by the coal industry 595 00:25:42,241 --> 00:25:43,910 to say, "that's not true." 596 00:25:43,910 --> 00:25:46,713 But they're presented in a balanced way, 597 00:25:46,713 --> 00:25:48,615 giving credit to both sides, 598 00:25:48,615 --> 00:25:50,717 and so, the conservatives were able to infiltrate 599 00:25:50,717 --> 00:25:51,951 the op-ed pages of the country 600 00:25:51,951 --> 00:25:53,285 on the same notion, 601 00:25:53,285 --> 00:25:54,987 that, "well you have liberal columnists, 602 00:25:54,987 --> 00:25:56,623 so you need conservative columnists." 603 00:25:56,623 --> 00:25:59,158 So, when Hilary Clinton referred to the vast 604 00:25:59,158 --> 00:26:01,093 right wing conspiracy, 605 00:26:01,093 --> 00:26:03,930 I believe she had in mind 606 00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:07,366 the full gamut of conservative organizations, 607 00:26:07,366 --> 00:26:11,003 from legal foundations to media organizations, 608 00:26:11,003 --> 00:26:15,041 to think tanks, to advocacy groups. 609 00:26:15,041 --> 00:26:16,976 And including Wednesday meeting, 610 00:26:16,976 --> 00:26:19,311 as... as it's lynchpin. 611 00:26:19,311 --> 00:26:22,281 After that, people called the Norquist meeting, 612 00:26:27,186 --> 00:26:29,355 the stage was now set for Ronald Reagan 613 00:26:29,355 --> 00:26:30,790 to give the greatest performance 614 00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:32,224 of his career, 615 00:26:32,224 --> 00:26:33,826 selling the American people 616 00:26:33,826 --> 00:26:36,829 on supply-side, trickle-down economics. 617 00:26:36,829 --> 00:26:38,330 The economic ills we suffer 618 00:26:38,330 --> 00:26:41,801 have come upon us over several decades. 619 00:26:41,801 --> 00:26:44,103 In this present crisis, 620 00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:47,840 government is not the solution to our problem. 621 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,876 Government is the problem. 622 00:26:49,876 --> 00:26:51,077 You know, we keep hearing about 623 00:26:51,077 --> 00:26:53,880 trickle-down economics, and Reaganomics, 624 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,382 and how if you help the people at the top, 625 00:26:56,382 --> 00:26:58,918 the wealth and income will trickle down. 626 00:26:58,918 --> 00:27:02,421 And studs Terkel said, "the only thing I've seen trickle down in the 1980's 627 00:27:02,421 --> 00:27:03,890 is meanness," 628 00:27:03,890 --> 00:27:05,658 and what he meant was, 629 00:27:05,658 --> 00:27:07,059 you know, the kind of country club, 630 00:27:07,059 --> 00:27:10,863 looking down on people less fortunate than you 631 00:27:10,863 --> 00:27:13,666 had sort of gone, and... Thanks to Limbaugh, 632 00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:15,702 and Bob Grant, and people like that, 633 00:27:15,702 --> 00:27:17,837 sort of, like, they were aiming 634 00:27:17,837 --> 00:27:21,774 at making white males, middle-class males, 635 00:27:21,774 --> 00:27:24,310 to be as angry and looking down on people 636 00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:27,279 and being angry at... At these social movements. 637 00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:29,315 As... as anyone who used to be in a country club 638 00:27:29,315 --> 00:27:30,750 in the 1950's, 639 00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:33,019 that was what was disseminated, 640 00:27:33,019 --> 00:27:35,454 was this mean, angry streak. 641 00:27:35,454 --> 00:27:38,324 That's what the 1980's did, according to studs Terkel, 642 00:27:38,324 --> 00:27:40,392 you know, the Reagan revolution 643 00:27:40,392 --> 00:27:43,129 - pulled people... was your dad ever a democrat? - -Oh, yeah. 644 00:27:43,129 --> 00:27:44,931 Yeah, okay, right, it pulled a lot 645 00:27:44,931 --> 00:27:48,100 of working-class democrats, the Reagan revolution, 646 00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:49,435 they started voting republican. 647 00:27:49,435 --> 00:27:52,204 They were called, Reagan democrats. 648 00:27:52,204 --> 00:27:54,340 There are two things that made democrats willing 649 00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:55,842 to vote for Ronald Reagan. 650 00:27:55,842 --> 00:27:59,345 Reagan developed this political vocabulary 651 00:27:59,345 --> 00:28:02,815 that made traditional, conservative economic ideas 652 00:28:02,815 --> 00:28:04,784 sound really positive and really good 653 00:28:04,784 --> 00:28:06,352 to ordinary people, 654 00:28:06,352 --> 00:28:10,056 and, what Ronald Reagan was promising these voters, 655 00:28:10,056 --> 00:28:13,760 was a return to a simpler time. 656 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:14,994 America, they want to take us back 657 00:28:14,994 --> 00:28:16,796 to is, uh, mythic. 658 00:28:16,796 --> 00:28:18,831 So, you might want to say the place they want to take us 659 00:28:18,831 --> 00:28:20,432 back to is like Brigadoon. 660 00:28:20,432 --> 00:28:24,003 You know, it's this kind of, you know, shimmering vision 661 00:28:24,003 --> 00:28:26,038 that you know, kind of exists 662 00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:29,108 in the space of the imagination. 663 00:28:29,108 --> 00:28:32,478 They saw 1900 in America, as like, 664 00:28:32,478 --> 00:28:35,347 the apex of when we were great as a nation. 665 00:28:35,347 --> 00:28:37,249 1900. 666 00:28:37,249 --> 00:28:39,752 Before the income tax, 667 00:28:39,752 --> 00:28:41,821 before the federal reserve, 668 00:28:41,821 --> 00:28:45,424 before any progressive legislation 669 00:28:45,424 --> 00:28:47,794 was considered or passed. 670 00:28:47,794 --> 00:28:49,962 Before child labor laws, 671 00:28:49,962 --> 00:28:52,298 before women had any rights, 672 00:28:52,298 --> 00:28:54,767 before women even had the right to vote. 673 00:28:54,767 --> 00:28:58,037 Robert Welch, who was the founder of the John Birch society, 674 00:28:58,037 --> 00:29:00,439 talked a lot about 1900, 675 00:29:00,439 --> 00:29:02,975 as this glorious time in American history. 676 00:29:02,975 --> 00:29:04,310 And he said, 677 00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:07,814 he said, "there were pockets of poverty, 678 00:29:07,814 --> 00:29:11,417 but it was a healthy kind of poverty. 679 00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:14,887 Poverty free from government interference. 680 00:29:14,887 --> 00:29:20,526 Where every man understood that relief from dire want 681 00:29:20,526 --> 00:29:23,996 was entirely his own responsibility, 682 00:29:23,996 --> 00:29:30,336 thus the blessings of Liberty outweighed the poverty." 683 00:29:33,305 --> 00:29:36,042 When during the great depression, 684 00:29:36,042 --> 00:29:39,278 when people would come to our house, 685 00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,914 and go around to the backdoor, 686 00:29:41,914 --> 00:29:45,117 and ask my mother if they could have a meal. 687 00:29:45,117 --> 00:29:47,286 And she'd cook them bacon and eggs or something, 688 00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:49,188 they ate it out in the back. 689 00:29:49,188 --> 00:29:52,391 So, that's how people had to survive, 690 00:29:52,391 --> 00:29:54,393 maybe he wants to go back to that, 691 00:29:54,393 --> 00:29:55,561 I don't know. 692 00:29:55,561 --> 00:29:59,398 We had like, a one room school. 693 00:29:59,398 --> 00:30:01,333 You know, and, we would... 694 00:30:01,333 --> 00:30:04,403 We'd walk to school in our bare feet, you know. 695 00:30:04,403 --> 00:30:08,274 And that's how we lived. 696 00:30:08,274 --> 00:30:09,541 Looking back, 697 00:30:09,541 --> 00:30:13,079 I know that we lived in poverty, 698 00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:15,214 or pretty close to it all the time. 699 00:30:15,214 --> 00:30:16,548 But we didn't know that at the time, 700 00:30:16,548 --> 00:30:18,284 because the government didn't come around 701 00:30:18,284 --> 00:30:19,385 and tell us we were poor. 702 00:30:20,887 --> 00:30:22,922 One of the brilliant innovations 703 00:30:22,922 --> 00:30:26,025 was a new theory about how taxation worked, 704 00:30:26,025 --> 00:30:27,426 about how the economy worked. 705 00:30:27,426 --> 00:30:29,128 It used to be the conservatives, 706 00:30:29,128 --> 00:30:30,296 that republications, 707 00:30:30,296 --> 00:30:32,164 we all about balanced budgets. 708 00:30:32,164 --> 00:30:33,900 They're all about kind of making the people 709 00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:35,101 eat their spinach. 710 00:30:35,101 --> 00:30:36,435 But they came up with this new theory 711 00:30:36,435 --> 00:30:38,570 called supply-side economics. 712 00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:40,139 And supply-side basically means, 713 00:30:40,139 --> 00:30:42,208 you give money to... To business, 714 00:30:42,208 --> 00:30:46,145 and that way they'll basically produce more plenty, 715 00:30:46,145 --> 00:30:49,115 that will trickle down to ordinary people. 716 00:30:49,115 --> 00:30:52,518 And that was what George Bush in 1980, referred to as 717 00:30:52,518 --> 00:30:54,086 "voodoo economics," 718 00:30:54,086 --> 00:30:55,621 because it almost did sound like magic. 719 00:30:55,621 --> 00:30:57,023 It was kind of like 720 00:30:57,023 --> 00:30:59,291 he was promising you the candy store. 721 00:30:59,291 --> 00:31:02,428 He said he could lower everybody's taxes, 722 00:31:02,428 --> 00:31:05,531 and by doing so, everyone would benefit. 723 00:31:05,531 --> 00:31:08,200 It was like the miracle of the loaves and fishes. 724 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,401 In actual fact, 725 00:31:09,401 --> 00:31:11,337 how it ended up turning out was, 726 00:31:11,337 --> 00:31:15,241 you know, hurting the very working class voters, 727 00:31:15,241 --> 00:31:18,978 who trusted Ronald Reagan with their economic future. 728 00:31:18,978 --> 00:31:21,647 Of course, inequality just skyrocketed. 729 00:31:21,647 --> 00:31:23,282 The rich got richer, 730 00:31:23,282 --> 00:31:27,086 and ordinary peoples' wages ended up stagnate. 731 00:31:27,086 --> 00:31:30,589 And my dad thought Reagan was the best guy in the world. 732 00:31:30,589 --> 00:31:32,191 And he was a democrat. 733 00:31:32,191 --> 00:31:37,529 And somewhere in this Reagan-Bush change, 734 00:31:37,529 --> 00:31:39,298 he told me, "well, I'm a republican now. 735 00:31:39,298 --> 00:31:43,002 I realize how wrong I was all those years ago," 736 00:31:43,002 --> 00:31:44,336 and the only thing 737 00:31:44,336 --> 00:31:46,338 I could attribute the change to 738 00:31:46,338 --> 00:31:50,009 was his change in taste 739 00:31:50,009 --> 00:31:53,980 about the news stories he watched. 740 00:31:53,980 --> 00:31:59,251 We used to watch Cronkite, and Brinkley and Brokaw, 741 00:31:59,251 --> 00:32:03,022 and what I consider sort of middle America, 742 00:32:03,022 --> 00:32:05,191 middle ground views. 743 00:32:05,191 --> 00:32:10,696 And... later on, all he watched was Fox. 744 00:32:16,268 --> 00:32:18,137 And the fairness doctrine actually said 745 00:32:18,137 --> 00:32:21,040 that you have to program in the public interest. 746 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,541 And so, as a result of that, 747 00:32:22,541 --> 00:32:24,476 radio and television stations, 748 00:32:24,476 --> 00:32:26,012 had real news. 749 00:32:26,012 --> 00:32:27,279 It operated for 50 years. 750 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:30,382 In 1949, it was actually voted in as law 751 00:32:30,382 --> 00:32:31,550 by the U.S. Congress. 752 00:32:31,550 --> 00:32:32,985 It said, 753 00:32:32,985 --> 00:32:35,054 "if you are watching, or listening 754 00:32:35,054 --> 00:32:37,356 to your local television, or radio station, 755 00:32:37,356 --> 00:32:39,025 and there are points of view 756 00:32:39,025 --> 00:32:41,160 that are not being included in the discussion, 757 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,728 and you wish for them to be in there, 758 00:32:42,728 --> 00:32:44,330 go complain to your station. 759 00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:46,999 If they don't give you satisfaction, 760 00:32:46,999 --> 00:32:49,401 then send a complaint to the FCC." 761 00:32:49,401 --> 00:32:51,670 It didn't guarantee equal time, 762 00:32:51,670 --> 00:32:54,540 it reminded broadcasters that they had a public trust, 763 00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:55,774 they should include some views 764 00:32:55,774 --> 00:32:57,276 that might go against their own, 765 00:32:57,276 --> 00:32:59,378 or that might not be popular, 766 00:32:59,378 --> 00:33:01,247 or favorable to them. 767 00:33:01,247 --> 00:33:02,481 It was dropped in the 80's, 768 00:33:02,481 --> 00:33:04,216 by The Reagan administration. 769 00:33:04,216 --> 00:33:06,252 The repeal of the fairness doctrine, 770 00:33:06,252 --> 00:33:09,288 ended up resulting in an explosion of talk radio. 771 00:33:09,288 --> 00:33:10,489 In 1987, 772 00:33:10,489 --> 00:33:12,024 I couldn't believe what I heard. 773 00:33:12,024 --> 00:33:14,360 I'd hear overt, gutter racism. 774 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,763 And this was coming from different talk show hosts. 775 00:33:17,763 --> 00:33:19,798 But the main one was Bob Grant. 776 00:33:19,798 --> 00:33:23,369 I'd hear black people referred to as, "savages." 777 00:33:23,369 --> 00:33:24,670 The savage mind, 778 00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:27,506 the primitive, primordial mentality, 779 00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:29,475 of being immature 780 00:33:29,475 --> 00:33:32,344 anything they think they can get away with, 781 00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:34,513 they will press and press and press, 782 00:33:34,513 --> 00:33:36,582 which, of course, is what they've been doing 783 00:33:36,582 --> 00:33:39,418 all over the United States of America. 784 00:33:39,418 --> 00:33:42,554 - Not in just... - The allure of the Limbaughs, 785 00:33:42,554 --> 00:33:44,656 and the grants, 786 00:33:44,656 --> 00:33:48,460 is that they tap into a kind of resentment, 787 00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:49,661 a kind of insecurity, 788 00:33:49,661 --> 00:33:51,830 on the part of mostly white men, 789 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:53,665 and the large part middle-aged, 790 00:33:53,665 --> 00:33:58,537 and aging white men, a kind of injured pride 791 00:33:58,537 --> 00:34:00,672 that the world is passing them by. 792 00:34:00,672 --> 00:34:02,508 It's... it's typical of demagoguery 793 00:34:02,508 --> 00:34:04,376 to say that your problems 794 00:34:04,376 --> 00:34:07,579 really aren't problems caused by you, 795 00:34:07,579 --> 00:34:09,115 they're caused by these other people 796 00:34:09,115 --> 00:34:11,383 that aren't like us. 797 00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:14,186 He found out that I was dating somebody who wasn't white, 798 00:34:14,186 --> 00:34:16,488 and just was like, 799 00:34:16,488 --> 00:34:17,723 "I can't... You just don't agree 800 00:34:17,723 --> 00:34:19,658 with any of my values." 801 00:34:19,658 --> 00:34:21,693 You don't believe any of the conservative things 802 00:34:21,693 --> 00:34:22,694 that I do." 803 00:34:22,694 --> 00:34:24,496 And, "you're so far left, 804 00:34:24,496 --> 00:34:25,764 that you're willing to date people 805 00:34:25,764 --> 00:34:27,166 outside of your race. 806 00:34:27,166 --> 00:34:28,767 And, I just... I love you, 807 00:34:28,767 --> 00:34:32,638 but I just can't talk to you ever again." 808 00:34:32,638 --> 00:34:34,440 Talk radio was always in the hands 809 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,210 of right wing backlash artists. 810 00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:39,878 A bunch of white guys on the right, 811 00:34:39,878 --> 00:34:41,780 railing against the women's movement, 812 00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:43,315 the civil rights movement. 813 00:34:43,315 --> 00:34:44,716 So, that's the beginning of talk radio 814 00:34:44,716 --> 00:34:46,318 that people forget about. 815 00:34:46,318 --> 00:34:48,354 It was all local then. There was no national. 816 00:34:48,354 --> 00:34:51,257 It never went national until Rush Limbaugh 817 00:34:51,257 --> 00:34:55,361 you know really made it national beginning in 1988. 818 00:34:55,361 --> 00:34:57,496 I learned that Fox, god love them, 819 00:34:57,496 --> 00:35:01,267 is televising this speech on the Fox News channel. 820 00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:03,435 - Which means, ladies and gentlemen, 821 00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:07,206 - this is my first ever address to the nation. 822 00:35:07,206 --> 00:35:09,875 Ah, Rush Limbaugh, my dad's hero. 823 00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:12,244 I heard him say it so many times. 824 00:35:12,244 --> 00:35:13,679 The way my dad spoke of Rush 825 00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:15,881 is like he found a new religion. 826 00:35:15,881 --> 00:35:17,183 Quoting him constantly 827 00:35:17,183 --> 00:35:19,318 as if he were the word of god. 828 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:36,435 Talk radio was so influential, 829 00:35:36,435 --> 00:35:38,637 and Rush Limbaugh is especially good. 830 00:35:38,637 --> 00:35:40,606 That me, a walking encyclopedia, 831 00:35:40,606 --> 00:35:41,940 that basically could debunk things 832 00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:43,409 on the spot. 833 00:35:43,409 --> 00:35:45,577 In many cases with talk radio hosts, 834 00:35:45,577 --> 00:35:48,247 Limbaugh sounded so confident, 835 00:35:48,247 --> 00:35:50,416 that they actually sent me back to the books. 836 00:35:50,416 --> 00:35:52,618 You know, I would be right, in the end, 837 00:35:52,618 --> 00:35:54,486 but I wasn't sure I was right 838 00:35:54,486 --> 00:35:56,955 because of the absolute confidence 839 00:35:56,955 --> 00:35:58,490 that this guy exudes. 840 00:35:58,490 --> 00:35:59,425 And it's very affecting. 841 00:36:02,194 --> 00:36:03,662 I'll never forget, 842 00:36:03,662 --> 00:36:05,864 my dad sent me something in the mail. 843 00:36:05,864 --> 00:36:09,235 He had put a PETA label on it, 844 00:36:09,235 --> 00:36:12,671 and he had taken a black magic marker, 845 00:36:12,671 --> 00:36:16,575 and kept... And rubbed out "peta." 846 00:36:16,575 --> 00:36:18,377 Like just scribbled it, 847 00:36:18,377 --> 00:36:20,246 and scribbled it, and scribbled it, 848 00:36:20,246 --> 00:36:22,714 until he almost ruined the envelope, 849 00:36:22,714 --> 00:36:24,516 and the PETA thing was out. 850 00:36:24,516 --> 00:36:25,617 It was just crazy. 851 00:36:25,617 --> 00:36:26,752 He was an animal lover, 852 00:36:26,752 --> 00:36:28,720 he always was an animal lover. 853 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:32,324 It just filled up all of him. 854 00:36:32,324 --> 00:36:34,993 It became all of who he was. 855 00:36:34,993 --> 00:36:38,730 Like, really, as if he were a cult member. 856 00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:41,433 And that's why I use the term "brainwashing." 857 00:36:42,768 --> 00:36:44,236 And he said to me, 858 00:36:44,236 --> 00:36:45,871 "I don't care what your facts are. 859 00:36:45,871 --> 00:36:48,807 My beliefs matter more, and I believe Rush." 860 00:36:48,807 --> 00:36:50,542 Limbaugh. Every day when he works. 861 00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:53,512 When I became involved with Occupy Wall Street, 862 00:36:53,512 --> 00:36:55,647 my parents were furious, 863 00:36:55,647 --> 00:36:57,649 and when my parents heard bits and pieces 864 00:36:57,649 --> 00:37:00,252 about my involvement, they cut me off completely, 865 00:37:00,252 --> 00:37:01,953 didn't speak to me. 866 00:37:01,953 --> 00:37:04,890 My dad has been a trucker for the last 40 years. 867 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:06,392 Now, who does he listen to? 868 00:37:06,392 --> 00:37:08,360 Rush Limbaugh. 869 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,661 And, he's... 870 00:37:09,661 --> 00:37:12,498 He's pretty much become unbearable. 871 00:37:12,498 --> 00:37:14,766 President Obama had just come into office 872 00:37:14,766 --> 00:37:16,034 the first time. 873 00:37:16,034 --> 00:37:18,570 The economy was in the toilet, 874 00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:22,741 so, I felt it was safe to discuss the economy 875 00:37:22,741 --> 00:37:25,577 because, clearly, president Obama 876 00:37:25,577 --> 00:37:27,446 couldn't have had anything to do with it, 877 00:37:27,446 --> 00:37:28,514 it was too soon. 878 00:37:28,514 --> 00:37:31,617 And my uncle got very upset. 879 00:37:31,617 --> 00:37:34,386 He says, "you get out of my house. 880 00:37:34,386 --> 00:37:35,487 You can't stay here, 881 00:37:35,487 --> 00:37:37,756 and talk to me about that guy." 882 00:37:37,756 --> 00:37:39,858 He walked towards me, 883 00:37:39,858 --> 00:37:41,993 and was carrying a small pistol. 884 00:37:41,993 --> 00:37:44,430 And I saw the gun pointing at me, 885 00:37:44,430 --> 00:37:46,532 and he dropped his hand to the floor... 886 00:37:46,532 --> 00:37:50,936 - and shot twice into the ground. 887 00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:52,838 Most people don't think about this, 888 00:37:52,838 --> 00:37:54,506 but talk radio is something... 889 00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:56,007 Unlike a lot of other media, 890 00:37:56,007 --> 00:37:57,309 that's done alone. 891 00:37:57,309 --> 00:37:58,910 People listen to it alone. 892 00:37:58,910 --> 00:38:01,480 And they're listening to this one other person. 893 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,981 And there's sort of a personal thing there 894 00:38:02,981 --> 00:38:04,683 and a connection. 895 00:38:04,683 --> 00:38:06,452 People who, on the radio and TV, 896 00:38:06,452 --> 00:38:07,853 are there for one reason only, 897 00:38:07,853 --> 00:38:09,955 and that's to make you mad. 898 00:38:09,955 --> 00:38:12,491 And the formula for making you, 899 00:38:12,491 --> 00:38:13,725 the viewer, or the listener mad, 900 00:38:13,725 --> 00:38:14,993 hasn't changed a bit 901 00:38:14,993 --> 00:38:17,463 yet people keep falling for it. 902 00:38:17,463 --> 00:38:20,599 If you embellish the opinion with confidence and cockiness, 903 00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:22,768 then you're getting into generating hatred. 904 00:38:22,768 --> 00:38:24,069 The law of averages indicates 905 00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:25,704 that half the people who listen to you 906 00:38:25,704 --> 00:38:27,906 are not gonna like you, you still gotta find a way 907 00:38:27,906 --> 00:38:29,074 to make those who don't like you 908 00:38:29,074 --> 00:38:30,742 enjoy listening to your program. 909 00:38:30,742 --> 00:38:31,943 A lot of people say, 910 00:38:31,943 --> 00:38:34,012 "you really mean the stuff you say?" 911 00:38:34,012 --> 00:38:35,714 I don't know. That's for you to figure out. 912 00:38:35,714 --> 00:38:37,716 Excuse me? 913 00:38:37,716 --> 00:38:40,686 A lot of people say, "do you really mean the stuff you say?" 914 00:38:40,686 --> 00:38:42,421 I don't know. That's for you to figure out. 915 00:38:42,421 --> 00:38:44,890 Limbaugh was telling people for years, 916 00:38:44,890 --> 00:38:46,892 "you're right to be prejudice. 917 00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:48,827 You're right to be angry." 918 00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:50,095 Let's listen to what the feminazis 919 00:38:50,095 --> 00:38:51,697 are telling you now. 920 00:38:51,697 --> 00:38:53,665 Or these environmental wackos, 921 00:38:53,665 --> 00:38:56,502 who say that cigarette's second-hand smoke. 922 00:38:56,502 --> 00:38:58,537 You know, and then he'll make up some study. 923 00:38:58,537 --> 00:39:00,372 One day, years ago, 924 00:39:00,372 --> 00:39:03,675 when my dad was at the height of his Limbaugh lunch days, 925 00:39:03,675 --> 00:39:05,577 I went down to visit my parents 926 00:39:05,577 --> 00:39:07,145 and my mom and dad and I 927 00:39:07,145 --> 00:39:08,680 went to our favorite restaurant, 928 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,482 old time tavern. 929 00:39:10,482 --> 00:39:12,884 As we were walking towards the restaurant door, 930 00:39:12,884 --> 00:39:14,420 there was a bench outside 931 00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:17,122 where several people were seated smoking. 932 00:39:17,122 --> 00:39:18,457 As we passed them, 933 00:39:18,457 --> 00:39:20,792 my dad stopped to talk to them. 934 00:39:20,792 --> 00:39:23,629 He inhaled the smoke, and said, 935 00:39:23,629 --> 00:39:26,765 "mm! I love the smell of cigarette smoke, 936 00:39:26,765 --> 00:39:29,835 it reminds me of the time I used to smoke." 937 00:39:29,835 --> 00:39:31,703 I was stunned, 938 00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:35,707 because the only thing I ever remember my dad smoking 939 00:39:35,707 --> 00:39:37,676 was the occasional pipe. 940 00:39:37,676 --> 00:39:39,478 He also hated wearing seatbelts, 941 00:39:39,478 --> 00:39:41,913 and would absolutely refuse to wear one, 942 00:39:41,913 --> 00:39:43,782 even after he got a ticket. 943 00:39:43,782 --> 00:39:46,818 Something told me it had to do with Rush Limbaugh. 944 00:39:46,818 --> 00:39:48,520 He wasn't just wrong factually, 945 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,489 he would take like reality upside down. 946 00:39:50,489 --> 00:39:51,657 He became what we call, 947 00:39:51,657 --> 00:39:53,992 "a champion of the overdog." 948 00:39:53,992 --> 00:39:55,961 Any powerful group, 949 00:39:55,961 --> 00:39:58,997 that was being criticized by scientists, 950 00:39:58,997 --> 00:40:03,068 or medical people, was the victim. 951 00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:06,104 So, the tobacco industry was a victim. 952 00:40:06,104 --> 00:40:08,173 And that's where he came up with his concoction 953 00:40:08,173 --> 00:40:09,775 that, you know, no one's ever proved 954 00:40:09,775 --> 00:40:11,743 that nicotine is addictive, 955 00:40:11,743 --> 00:40:13,912 or is linked to these horrible diseases. 956 00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:16,882 There's no science involved. 957 00:40:16,882 --> 00:40:18,984 And, you know, cigarette second-hand smoke 958 00:40:18,984 --> 00:40:21,953 making you go outside of the restaurant to smoke. 959 00:40:21,953 --> 00:40:24,823 It's not true. Here's the real facts. 960 00:40:24,823 --> 00:40:26,792 And then he comes up with his false facts. 961 00:40:26,792 --> 00:40:28,126 You don't like seatbelts? 962 00:40:28,126 --> 00:40:30,696 It's Ralph Nader, he made up this stuff. 963 00:40:30,696 --> 00:40:33,799 Ladies and gentlemen, the top 10 Limbaugh lies. 964 00:41:39,865 --> 00:41:41,099 How can all these people 965 00:41:41,099 --> 00:41:43,068 believe such outlandish statements? 966 00:41:43,068 --> 00:41:44,703 But it wasn't just like my dad 967 00:41:44,703 --> 00:41:46,137 or Barbara's brother 968 00:41:46,137 --> 00:41:47,939 or Marie's uncle, who believe Rush Limbaugh 969 00:41:47,939 --> 00:41:49,608 that troubled me. 970 00:41:49,608 --> 00:41:50,776 Clarence Thomas, 971 00:41:50,776 --> 00:41:52,978 one of our supreme court justices, 972 00:41:52,978 --> 00:41:55,146 who officiated at the third wedding 973 00:41:55,146 --> 00:41:56,682 of Rush Limbaugh. 974 00:41:56,682 --> 00:41:58,684 I think it was in Clarence Thomas' house. 975 00:41:58,684 --> 00:42:00,318 And, Clarence Thomas, you know, 976 00:42:00,318 --> 00:42:01,853 will tell anyone that asks him, 977 00:42:01,853 --> 00:42:03,321 "no, I don't listen to mainstream media. 978 00:42:03,321 --> 00:42:05,123 I don't trust it. 979 00:42:05,123 --> 00:42:08,026 But he taped Rush Limbaugh’s radio show 980 00:42:08,026 --> 00:42:09,327 all three hours, 981 00:42:09,327 --> 00:42:11,262 and he tried to always listen to that. 982 00:42:11,262 --> 00:42:13,765 Now, imagine this here supreme court justice, 983 00:42:13,765 --> 00:42:16,602 deciding on things like war and peace, 984 00:42:16,602 --> 00:42:18,770 and civil liberties, and gay marriage 985 00:42:18,770 --> 00:42:22,140 and your window to the real news world 986 00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:24,309 is Rush Limbaugh’s three-hour monologue. 987 00:42:24,309 --> 00:42:26,778 That's pretty damn scary. 988 00:42:29,781 --> 00:42:33,351 There was a sense of seamless argumentation 989 00:42:33,351 --> 00:42:36,822 that this guy is giving me the complete explanation. 990 00:42:36,822 --> 00:42:40,859 And he's got facts and studies to back it up. 991 00:42:40,859 --> 00:42:44,630 And I'm listening to him three and a half hours a day. 992 00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:47,633 When he put out our study in 1994, 993 00:42:47,633 --> 00:42:50,736 debunking dozens of these lies 994 00:42:50,736 --> 00:42:52,638 or distortions or exaggerations 995 00:42:52,638 --> 00:42:53,872 from Rush Limbaugh, 996 00:42:53,872 --> 00:42:58,744 we encountered thousands of dittoheads. 997 00:42:58,744 --> 00:43:02,748 Now, the cult-like nature is, you know, is obvious, 998 00:43:02,748 --> 00:43:06,785 when a guy is preaching for hours at a time, 999 00:43:06,785 --> 00:43:09,621 and people come on, instead of saying "amen," 1000 00:43:09,621 --> 00:43:10,956 but just like saying, "amen," 1001 00:43:10,956 --> 00:43:11,990 they say, "dittos, Rush. 1002 00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:13,324 Mega dittos, Rush." 1003 00:43:13,324 --> 00:43:15,360 That's their contribution. 1004 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,062 It's like, here's the preacher, 1005 00:43:17,062 --> 00:43:18,730 and I'm part of the cult, 1006 00:43:18,730 --> 00:43:21,066 the congregation, and I'm just amening, 1007 00:43:21,066 --> 00:43:24,069 with this phrase, "dittos," or "mega dittos, Rush." 1008 00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:26,071 "You're the greatest, Rush." 1009 00:43:26,071 --> 00:43:28,740 - Do they actually say that, themselves? - Oh, they go on the air. 1010 00:43:28,740 --> 00:43:31,076 And they say, "mega dittos, Rush." 1011 00:43:31,076 --> 00:43:32,844 Oh, that's why they call them "dittoheads." 1012 00:43:32,844 --> 00:43:35,013 Yes. In other words, 1013 00:43:35,013 --> 00:43:37,148 everything you say, I'm ditto-ing. 1014 00:43:37,148 --> 00:43:39,117 Hey, Rush, how are you? Mega dittos. 1015 00:43:39,117 --> 00:43:40,752 Thank you, and mega dittos, Rush. 1016 00:43:40,752 --> 00:43:42,688 Oh, mega and constitutionous dittos 1017 00:43:42,688 --> 00:43:44,155 from Southern California, Rush. 1018 00:43:44,155 --> 00:43:46,191 So, I watched 30 minutes of Rush Limbaugh. 1019 00:43:46,191 --> 00:43:47,325 I... I didn't like him at first, 1020 00:43:47,325 --> 00:43:48,727 cause he was kind of 1021 00:43:48,727 --> 00:43:50,195 just being critical of Clinton. 1022 00:43:50,195 --> 00:43:52,330 Well, I had about an hour and 15-minute commute 1023 00:43:52,330 --> 00:43:53,431 to a factory, 1024 00:43:53,431 --> 00:43:55,233 two towns over where I worked. 1025 00:43:55,233 --> 00:43:56,735 And I drove, I worked second shift, 1026 00:43:56,735 --> 00:43:59,104 and I drove midday to that factory, 1027 00:43:59,104 --> 00:44:00,806 and I'd catch the last hour of his show. 1028 00:44:00,806 --> 00:44:04,009 And I... I just immersed myself. 1029 00:44:04,009 --> 00:44:07,345 Boom. I spoke down straight republican to you. 1030 00:44:07,345 --> 00:44:10,181 And I had been convinced that Clinton was more corrupt 1031 00:44:10,181 --> 00:44:11,683 than Nixon ever could have been. 1032 00:44:11,683 --> 00:44:13,852 Clinton was part of this global initiative, 1033 00:44:13,852 --> 00:44:16,154 to get the U.N. To control our country. 1034 00:44:16,154 --> 00:44:18,156 Clinton was gonna bring in U.N. Troops 1035 00:44:18,156 --> 00:44:19,691 to take our guns, 1036 00:44:19,691 --> 00:44:22,794 and put in concentration camps. 1037 00:44:22,794 --> 00:44:25,997 And then, Bill Clinton gets elected. 1038 00:44:27,432 --> 00:44:30,201 There's this backlash against Clinton, 1039 00:44:30,201 --> 00:44:32,938 spearheaded by Rush Limbaugh. 1040 00:44:32,938 --> 00:44:35,073 And Limbaugh becomes almost the leader 1041 00:44:35,073 --> 00:44:36,307 of the opposition. 1042 00:44:36,307 --> 00:44:37,843 Several times he said on the air, 1043 00:44:37,843 --> 00:44:41,179 that Vince foster, the white house aide 1044 00:44:41,179 --> 00:44:43,815 for Bill Clinton had actually been murdered, 1045 00:44:43,815 --> 00:44:46,217 and that his body was found in Hilary Clinton's apartment. 1046 00:44:46,217 --> 00:44:47,953 He said that once on the air. 1047 00:44:47,953 --> 00:44:50,288 You know, so these weird conspiracy theories, 1048 00:44:50,288 --> 00:44:52,924 and talk radio is really peaking 1049 00:44:52,924 --> 00:44:54,225 at that point. 1050 00:44:54,225 --> 00:44:56,762 He's incredibly rich. 1051 00:44:56,762 --> 00:44:59,197 Well, that's because he signed a contract 1052 00:44:59,197 --> 00:45:03,134 that gives him approximately $34 million a year. 1053 00:45:03,134 --> 00:45:04,836 One of those funders, we know for a fact, 1054 00:45:04,836 --> 00:45:07,238 in 2011, was the Heritage Foundation, 1055 00:45:07,238 --> 00:45:08,339 because it was listed 1056 00:45:08,339 --> 00:45:09,775 as a line item on their budget. 1057 00:45:11,342 --> 00:45:13,411 I remember when Clinton was president, 1058 00:45:13,411 --> 00:45:16,848 and I came to visit my parents one time. 1059 00:45:16,848 --> 00:45:19,350 My dad was hunched over in the living room chair, 1060 00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:22,253 reading one of the books against president Clinton. 1061 00:45:22,253 --> 00:45:24,422 I believe "slick Willy" was in the title. 1062 00:45:24,422 --> 00:45:26,424 You couldn't mention president Clinton, 1063 00:45:26,424 --> 00:45:29,127 without him yelling about how he was a murderer, 1064 00:45:29,127 --> 00:45:31,797 and going to destroy the country. 1065 00:45:31,797 --> 00:45:34,432 It made me think again of what Hilary Clinton said 1066 00:45:34,432 --> 00:45:35,533 during that interview 1067 00:45:35,533 --> 00:45:37,302 when her husband was in office. 1068 00:45:37,302 --> 00:45:39,337 This vast, right wing conspiracy 1069 00:45:39,337 --> 00:45:42,040 that was been conspiring against my husband 1070 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,275 since the day he announced for president. 1071 00:45:44,275 --> 00:45:46,444 I was actually watching it when she said that. 1072 00:45:46,444 --> 00:45:49,180 And I knew that what she was saying was true. 1073 00:45:49,180 --> 00:45:52,150 I was involved with and knew very much firsthand, 1074 00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:53,518 that people who 1075 00:45:53,518 --> 00:45:55,120 I was working with, in places like 1076 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,454 the "American Spectator" magazine, 1077 00:45:56,454 --> 00:45:58,389 back in 1993 1078 00:45:58,389 --> 00:46:00,826 shortly after Clinton was elected, 1079 00:46:00,826 --> 00:46:02,460 were trying to figure out 1080 00:46:02,460 --> 00:46:04,162 how to get him thrown out of office. 1081 00:46:04,162 --> 00:46:05,563 How to impeach him. 1082 00:46:05,563 --> 00:46:07,332 On the strength of the backlash 1083 00:46:07,332 --> 00:46:09,835 against Bill Clinton in his first two years, 1084 00:46:09,835 --> 00:46:11,903 for the first time in decades, 1085 00:46:11,903 --> 00:46:13,238 the Republicans took over 1086 00:46:13,238 --> 00:46:17,943 a very low turn out, November 1994 election, 1087 00:46:17,943 --> 00:46:19,110 they made Rush Limbaugh 1088 00:46:19,110 --> 00:46:21,546 an honorary member of Congress. 1089 00:46:21,546 --> 00:46:25,483 So, the role that Limbaugh and talk radio played, 1090 00:46:25,483 --> 00:46:29,520 in the ascendancy of the right wing in Congress, 1091 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,889 is crucial. 1092 00:46:30,889 --> 00:46:32,290 Most of us liked Clinton. 1093 00:46:32,290 --> 00:46:35,393 At one point, almost 66% of us. 1094 00:46:35,393 --> 00:46:37,262 But some of my more liberal friends 1095 00:46:37,262 --> 00:46:38,496 were mad at him 1096 00:46:38,496 --> 00:46:40,131 for some pro-big business things 1097 00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:42,567 he did, like signing NAFTA into law 1098 00:46:42,567 --> 00:46:44,135 and signing legislation 1099 00:46:44,135 --> 00:46:45,570 that repealed the Glass–Steagall Act 1100 00:46:45,570 --> 00:46:47,873 in 1999. 1101 00:46:47,873 --> 00:46:51,209 The Glass–Steagall Act had been enacted after the great depression. 1102 00:46:51,209 --> 00:46:53,444 Basically, it separated and protected 1103 00:46:53,444 --> 00:46:56,915 your checkings and savings from investment banks. 1104 00:46:56,915 --> 00:46:58,917 And that worked for 60 years. 1105 00:47:01,586 --> 00:47:03,588 One of the biggest steps forward 1106 00:47:03,588 --> 00:47:06,057 to handing our whole media system 1107 00:47:06,057 --> 00:47:07,859 to a handful of corporations, 1108 00:47:07,859 --> 00:47:10,161 was completely bipartisan. 1109 00:47:10,161 --> 00:47:14,332 It was the 1996 telecommunications reform act, 1110 00:47:14,332 --> 00:47:15,901 and I put "reform" in quotes, 1111 00:47:15,901 --> 00:47:17,602 consumer rights' advocates were calling it, 1112 00:47:17,602 --> 00:47:19,871 "the time Warner enrichment act." 1113 00:47:19,871 --> 00:47:21,606 But president Bill Clinton and the democrats 1114 00:47:21,606 --> 00:47:23,641 were getting huge soft money donations 1115 00:47:23,641 --> 00:47:25,076 from the big media 1116 00:47:25,076 --> 00:47:26,644 and telecommunications companies. 1117 00:47:26,644 --> 00:47:28,513 So was the republican speaker of the house, 1118 00:47:28,513 --> 00:47:29,948 Newt Gingrich. 1119 00:47:29,948 --> 00:47:32,117 And together, behind closed doors, 1120 00:47:32,117 --> 00:47:34,986 they developed this telecommunications act, 1121 00:47:34,986 --> 00:47:37,889 which gave away the media to these few big companies, 1122 00:47:37,889 --> 00:47:39,624 these... these few fat companies 1123 00:47:39,624 --> 00:47:41,359 got even fatter. 1124 00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:43,528 Mainstream media didn't scrutinize it, 1125 00:47:43,528 --> 00:47:44,963 because they were getting rich, 1126 00:47:44,963 --> 00:47:46,531 at the top. 1127 00:47:46,531 --> 00:47:50,936 And when you have that kind of bipartisan corruption, 1128 00:47:50,936 --> 00:47:53,171 corrupting our media system, 1129 00:47:53,171 --> 00:47:57,475 it explains why we ended up with the media system we have. 1130 00:47:57,475 --> 00:47:59,544 Signing the telecommunications act, 1131 00:47:59,544 --> 00:48:02,647 helped set the stage for something even bigger, 1132 00:48:02,647 --> 00:48:06,217 something that would change the media landscape forever. 1133 00:48:06,217 --> 00:48:08,519 Remember a young Roger Ailes in the Nixon days 1134 00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:10,055 and that memo called, 1135 00:48:10,055 --> 00:48:13,358 "a plan for putting the GOP on TV news"? 1136 00:48:13,358 --> 00:48:16,694 In 1996, 25 years later, 1137 00:48:16,694 --> 00:48:18,329 Fox News was launched 1138 00:48:18,329 --> 00:48:20,898 with the backing of Rupert Murdoch. 1139 00:48:23,501 --> 00:48:26,037 Thanks in part to the telecommunications act, 1140 00:48:26,037 --> 00:48:28,173 Rupert Murdoch's news corp conglomerate 1141 00:48:28,173 --> 00:48:31,209 grew even larger. 1142 00:48:31,209 --> 00:48:34,545 And guess whom he hired to help create Fox News? 1143 00:48:34,545 --> 00:48:35,981 Fox News grew to be 1144 00:48:35,981 --> 00:48:37,615 the dominating cable news network, 1145 00:48:37,615 --> 00:48:39,017 and it's effect 1146 00:48:39,017 --> 00:48:40,318 on the other major news stations 1147 00:48:40,318 --> 00:48:41,953 was profound. 1148 00:48:41,953 --> 00:48:44,655 Rupert Murdoch is a media giant. 1149 00:48:44,655 --> 00:48:48,226 He owns news organizations all over the world. 1150 00:48:48,226 --> 00:48:50,195 These include TV, the Internet, 1151 00:48:50,195 --> 00:48:53,131 newspapers, and books. 1152 00:48:53,131 --> 00:48:56,134 That's a lot of influence for one man. 1153 00:48:56,134 --> 00:48:58,536 In terms of you having a global media enterprise, 1154 00:48:58,536 --> 00:49:00,438 I mean, have you shaked that agenda at all? 1155 00:49:00,438 --> 00:49:02,240 Obviously, if you're in media, 1156 00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,309 and you're concerned with what's going on in the world, 1157 00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:05,543 you'd like to make a difference, 1158 00:49:05,543 --> 00:49:07,145 by putting forward your opinions. 1159 00:49:07,145 --> 00:49:09,414 Excuse me? 1160 00:49:09,414 --> 00:49:12,317 If you're in media, and you're concerned with what's going on in the world, 1161 00:49:12,317 --> 00:49:13,551 you'd like to make a difference, 1162 00:49:13,551 --> 00:49:16,221 by putting forward your opinions. 1163 00:49:16,221 --> 00:49:18,456 Murdoch may have his empire, 1164 00:49:18,456 --> 00:49:23,194 but it's Roger Ailes who has the talent. 1165 00:49:23,194 --> 00:49:26,998 Fox News is really Roger Ailes' megaphone. 1166 00:49:26,998 --> 00:49:28,599 And when he comes into work every day, 1167 00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:30,335 there's morning meeting that takes place 1168 00:49:30,335 --> 00:49:32,370 in his office, at 8:00 am, 1169 00:49:32,370 --> 00:49:34,305 and his control over Fox News 1170 00:49:34,305 --> 00:49:36,541 is so absolute, that when he says something, 1171 00:49:36,541 --> 00:49:38,043 it happens. 1172 00:49:38,043 --> 00:49:39,577 What happens in 1998? 1173 00:49:39,577 --> 00:49:43,014 Bill Clinton has an affair with an intern. 1174 00:49:43,014 --> 00:49:45,450 Well, for an entire year, they do wall-to-wall coverage. 1175 00:49:45,450 --> 00:49:47,085 What happens in 2000? 1176 00:49:47,085 --> 00:49:50,588 Another year when Fox News exploded in the ratings. 1177 00:49:50,588 --> 00:49:52,290 The Bush-Gore recount. 1178 00:49:52,290 --> 00:49:53,724 How did Ailes cover that story? 1179 00:49:53,724 --> 00:49:54,792 He covered it as, 1180 00:49:54,792 --> 00:49:56,494 not that it's too close to call, 1181 00:49:56,494 --> 00:49:57,528 and we need to do a recount, 1182 00:49:57,528 --> 00:49:59,030 he covered it as, 1183 00:49:59,030 --> 00:50:01,399 "al Gore and the democrats are sore losers, 1184 00:50:01,399 --> 00:50:03,168 and they're trying to steal the election." 1185 00:50:03,168 --> 00:50:06,204 Fast-forward to 2001 and 9/11, 1186 00:50:06,204 --> 00:50:07,672 how did he cover that story? 1187 00:50:07,672 --> 00:50:09,307 As a second Pearl Harbor, 1188 00:50:09,307 --> 00:50:11,542 not that this is a... A terrorist attack, 1189 00:50:11,542 --> 00:50:13,778 that there are other ways of dealing with terrorism, 1190 00:50:13,778 --> 00:50:16,281 law enforcement targeted strike. 1191 00:50:16,281 --> 00:50:18,583 Fox News, more than any other media outlet, 1192 00:50:18,583 --> 00:50:21,319 sold the war as this grand struggle 1193 00:50:21,319 --> 00:50:22,753 and America was gonna 1194 00:50:22,753 --> 00:50:24,622 go in there and... and, kick ass. 1195 00:50:24,622 --> 00:50:27,425 And George Bush was this John Wayne figure. 1196 00:50:27,425 --> 00:50:29,094 I mean all of this... This symbolism. 1197 00:50:29,094 --> 00:50:30,328 The patriotism, 1198 00:50:30,328 --> 00:50:32,363 the anchors wearing the flag pins, 1199 00:50:32,363 --> 00:50:34,265 you know, Roger Ailes knew that these stories, 1200 00:50:34,265 --> 00:50:36,301 these big stories could be boiled down 1201 00:50:36,301 --> 00:50:38,269 to very simple plotlines. 1202 00:50:38,269 --> 00:50:39,837 He says things like, 1203 00:50:39,837 --> 00:50:41,339 "if we can convince the audience 1204 00:50:41,339 --> 00:50:43,174 that we are fair and balanced, 1205 00:50:43,174 --> 00:50:45,343 we can actually, 1206 00:50:45,343 --> 00:50:47,245 move the audience to the right, 1207 00:50:47,245 --> 00:50:49,280 by introducing kind of right wing themes 1208 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,615 surreptitiously. 1209 00:50:53,384 --> 00:50:55,553 This is it. 1210 00:50:56,687 --> 00:50:58,423 Thank you. 1211 00:50:58,423 --> 00:51:00,291 Move in fast, it's damn cold. 1212 00:51:02,227 --> 00:51:05,663 Fox News is the real... Fairly important development. 1213 00:51:05,663 --> 00:51:10,801 What it does is bring out explicit right wing views 1214 00:51:10,801 --> 00:51:12,803 right into the heart of the media, 1215 00:51:12,803 --> 00:51:15,340 making no... Hardly any pretense 1216 00:51:15,340 --> 00:51:16,341 and objectivity. 1217 00:51:16,341 --> 00:51:17,742 And it makes, sometimes, 1218 00:51:17,742 --> 00:51:21,479 statements suggesting that it's being fair, 1219 00:51:21,479 --> 00:51:24,449 but it's... It's blatantly biased, 1220 00:51:24,449 --> 00:51:28,286 and it has republican politicians on. 1221 00:51:28,286 --> 00:51:29,720 They hardly mince their words 1222 00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:33,458 that it... it has a political agenda. 1223 00:51:33,458 --> 00:51:35,626 And it's also very important 1224 00:51:35,626 --> 00:51:38,196 in that it's had an effect on the rest of the media. 1225 00:51:38,196 --> 00:51:41,166 It was already pretty nice to the right wing 1226 00:51:41,166 --> 00:51:43,134 but it has to go even farther 1227 00:51:43,134 --> 00:51:45,436 being nice to the right wing. 1228 00:51:45,436 --> 00:51:47,872 The most dangerous thing about Fox News 1229 00:51:47,872 --> 00:51:51,309 is not the fact that it exists, 1230 00:51:51,309 --> 00:51:53,178 and speaks to it's audience 1231 00:51:53,178 --> 00:51:55,213 of a few million people. 1232 00:51:55,213 --> 00:51:56,847 It's the effect that Fox can have 1233 00:51:56,847 --> 00:51:58,249 on the rest of the media. 1234 00:51:58,249 --> 00:51:59,484 Time and again, 1235 00:51:59,484 --> 00:52:00,751 you'll see a false and wrong story 1236 00:52:00,751 --> 00:52:02,453 that is aired, 1237 00:52:02,453 --> 00:52:05,823 and starts moving through the Fox News channel 1238 00:52:05,823 --> 00:52:07,492 on a given day, 1239 00:52:07,492 --> 00:52:09,894 and it, bleeding over, or spilling over, 1240 00:52:09,894 --> 00:52:12,830 into mainstream intuitions of journalism. 1241 00:52:12,830 --> 00:52:15,433 Media critics coined this term, "Fox effect," 1242 00:52:15,433 --> 00:52:17,402 to mean, media is an ecosystem, 1243 00:52:17,402 --> 00:52:19,437 and all media affects other media, 1244 00:52:19,437 --> 00:52:21,806 and so, the existence of Fox News, 1245 00:52:21,806 --> 00:52:25,943 and having that wrong approach to journalism out there, 1246 00:52:25,943 --> 00:52:28,946 has a toxic effect on the rest of journalism. 1247 00:52:28,946 --> 00:52:32,317 These are areas, which even the government officials 1248 00:52:32,317 --> 00:52:33,884 have said, these are no-go zones, 1249 00:52:33,884 --> 00:52:36,187 you don't go in 'em if you're not a Muslim. 1250 00:52:36,187 --> 00:52:37,855 There's no law enforcement 1251 00:52:37,855 --> 00:52:41,659 other than what's enforced by the Muslim communities there. 1252 00:52:41,659 --> 00:52:43,794 The French government created environment 1253 00:52:43,794 --> 00:52:45,496 in these certain neighborhoods where 1254 00:52:45,496 --> 00:52:48,533 they don't allow local law enforcement to come in, 1255 00:52:48,533 --> 00:52:52,870 these no-go zones in, uh, in France. 1256 00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:54,905 And they become, then, recruiting grounds, 1257 00:52:54,905 --> 00:52:57,708 they become a sort of festering region 1258 00:52:57,708 --> 00:53:00,278 where Islamic extremism can thrive. 1259 00:53:00,278 --> 00:53:02,447 All right, so, now this extremism 1260 00:53:02,447 --> 00:53:03,914 could grow in that environment. 1261 00:53:03,914 --> 00:53:05,816 So, they air the stories, 1262 00:53:05,816 --> 00:53:07,352 then they start to bang the drums 1263 00:53:07,352 --> 00:53:09,820 that the mainstream media is censoring 1264 00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:11,522 and won't report, 1265 00:53:11,522 --> 00:53:15,793 to try to pressure and guilt the mainstream media 1266 00:53:15,793 --> 00:53:17,462 into following their lead. 1267 00:53:17,462 --> 00:53:19,264 When I was in Fox News, 1268 00:53:19,264 --> 00:53:20,865 I can remember sitting in the greenroom 1269 00:53:20,865 --> 00:53:22,767 before a show was taped, 1270 00:53:22,767 --> 00:53:26,337 and a particularly biased segment comes on, 1271 00:53:26,337 --> 00:53:28,939 and, uh, and then someone in the greenroom, 1272 00:53:28,939 --> 00:53:31,442 where we're all waiting these include 1273 00:53:31,442 --> 00:53:34,612 Fox News producers, Fox News staff, 1274 00:53:34,612 --> 00:53:35,913 Fox News contributors. 1275 00:53:35,913 --> 00:53:37,482 Someone'll say, 1276 00:53:37,482 --> 00:53:38,983 "wow, that was really fair and balanced," 1277 00:53:38,983 --> 00:53:40,951 and the whole place erupts in laughter. 1278 00:53:40,951 --> 00:53:43,721 There's actually almost no journalism involved. 1279 00:53:43,721 --> 00:53:45,823 And I mean, when the Tsunami hit, 1280 00:53:45,823 --> 00:53:48,259 Fox News literally couldn't cover it. 1281 00:53:48,259 --> 00:53:51,262 They just, they didn't have anyone with a camera with them. 1282 00:53:51,262 --> 00:53:52,563 For a week, for days, and weeks, 1283 00:53:52,563 --> 00:53:53,898 they just didn't care. 1284 00:53:53,898 --> 00:53:56,334 So, it's a very cheap way to run a quote. 1285 00:53:56,334 --> 00:53:57,402 News organizations, 1286 00:53:57,402 --> 00:53:58,636 you just sort of sit around, 1287 00:53:58,636 --> 00:54:00,938 and talk about how awful democrats are. 1288 00:54:00,938 --> 00:54:02,773 Most of Fox's audiences is older. 1289 00:54:02,773 --> 00:54:04,742 However, we were surprised to find out 1290 00:54:04,742 --> 00:54:06,877 that there were parents and grandparents 1291 00:54:06,877 --> 00:54:08,746 who introduced their children, 1292 00:54:08,746 --> 00:54:10,715 and grandchildren to it. 1293 00:54:10,715 --> 00:54:12,550 And we were more surprised to find out 1294 00:54:12,550 --> 00:54:15,753 that some teenagers were watching Fox. 1295 00:54:17,888 --> 00:54:19,857 I had my granddaughter with me the other day, 1296 00:54:19,857 --> 00:54:21,292 she's 19. 1297 00:54:21,292 --> 00:54:23,894 She has taxes taken out of her check. 1298 00:54:23,894 --> 00:54:26,664 And she just came up with this comment, 1299 00:54:26,664 --> 00:54:28,399 "you know, gram, 1300 00:54:28,399 --> 00:54:30,901 "I don't really like my taxes paying for lazy people 1301 00:54:30,901 --> 00:54:32,303 who do nothing," 1302 00:54:32,303 --> 00:54:35,673 and... I just was so shocked, 1303 00:54:35,673 --> 00:54:38,008 I calmly gathered myself, 1304 00:54:38,008 --> 00:54:39,910 and said, "hey, do you know why 1305 00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:42,747 the library's closed on Fridays now?" 1306 00:54:42,747 --> 00:54:45,350 It's because there's no taxes to keep it open. 1307 00:54:46,717 --> 00:54:50,655 After reading an article by a 24-year-old 1308 00:54:50,655 --> 00:54:55,326 ex-Fox devotee, we decided to interview him. 1309 00:54:55,326 --> 00:54:57,462 The name of his article was... 1310 00:55:01,699 --> 00:55:03,067 We had one computer 1311 00:55:03,067 --> 00:55:05,102 with a dial-up modem that was really slow, 1312 00:55:05,102 --> 00:55:08,939 so it was just faster to get the news off TV back in the day. 1313 00:55:08,939 --> 00:55:10,608 And so, I turn on the TV, 1314 00:55:10,608 --> 00:55:13,478 and that's what started making me political. 1315 00:55:13,478 --> 00:55:16,847 And, you know, I turned the TV on, 1316 00:55:16,847 --> 00:55:19,884 and I put on CNN or MSNBC, and my father would walk by, 1317 00:55:19,884 --> 00:55:21,686 and he'd go, "oh, that's liberal propaganda, 1318 00:55:21,686 --> 00:55:23,020 you gotta watch this." 1319 00:55:23,020 --> 00:55:24,755 And he would change the channel to Fox News, 1320 00:55:24,755 --> 00:55:27,525 and then "a" led to "b," and so on. 1321 00:55:27,525 --> 00:55:28,693 Years ago, I was dating 1322 00:55:28,693 --> 00:55:30,695 this nice, lovable, sweet lady, 1323 00:55:30,695 --> 00:55:32,463 and we broke up. 1324 00:55:32,463 --> 00:55:34,399 That happens. Not a big deal. 1325 00:55:34,399 --> 00:55:36,501 We stayed in contact, good friends. 1326 00:55:36,501 --> 00:55:38,936 Very sweet, 'cause, you know, she's likeable. 1327 00:55:38,936 --> 00:55:41,572 However, right around the 2004 election, 1328 00:55:41,572 --> 00:55:43,408 she started watching Fox News, 1329 00:55:43,408 --> 00:55:48,045 and that sweet, lovable, likeable person was gone. 1330 00:55:48,045 --> 00:55:50,981 And was replaced... Corrupted by Fox 1331 00:55:50,981 --> 00:55:55,119 into this intolerant, willfully ignorant... 1332 00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:57,688 Compassionless individual. 1333 00:55:57,688 --> 00:56:01,492 I tried to steer her away from Fox, 1334 00:56:01,492 --> 00:56:04,762 into listening to every... Anything else but Fox, 1335 00:56:04,762 --> 00:56:07,965 but she got more and more sucked into that fox hole, 1336 00:56:07,965 --> 00:56:10,501 and now, that sweet, lovable person 1337 00:56:10,501 --> 00:56:11,869 I once knew is gone. 1338 00:56:11,869 --> 00:56:13,571 And I miss my friend. 1339 00:56:13,571 --> 00:56:16,674 I wish she'd come back. I wish she'd stop watching... 1340 00:56:18,142 --> 00:56:20,545 I just basically believed 1341 00:56:20,545 --> 00:56:22,513 that Bill O'Reilly was sort of like the champion 1342 00:56:22,513 --> 00:56:24,649 of the rights for the common people, right? 1343 00:56:24,649 --> 00:56:27,485 Which is totally ridiculous. 1344 00:56:27,485 --> 00:56:29,086 But at the time, I believed it. Right? 1345 00:56:29,086 --> 00:56:30,721 I remember, he was arguing that 1346 00:56:30,721 --> 00:56:33,458 the ALCU was a terrorist organization. 1347 00:56:33,458 --> 00:56:36,861 Yeah. Because they're trying to take away all our rights, 1348 00:56:36,861 --> 00:56:40,798 which is totally... I mean, patently false, 1349 00:56:40,798 --> 00:56:44,168 as big of a lie as you could possibly propagate, 1350 00:56:44,168 --> 00:56:46,136 but he was saying it as if it was true. 1351 00:56:46,136 --> 00:56:47,505 And I was there in the gym, 1352 00:56:47,505 --> 00:56:48,839 or wherever I was, listening to it, 1353 00:56:48,839 --> 00:56:50,207 and be like, "oh my god. 1354 00:56:50,207 --> 00:56:51,676 This guy gets it." 1355 00:56:51,676 --> 00:56:52,877 You know, this guy gets 1356 00:56:52,877 --> 00:56:55,045 that if they take away our right 1357 00:56:55,045 --> 00:56:56,481 to say, "Merry Christmas," 1358 00:56:56,481 --> 00:56:58,215 we're no better than the terrorists! 1359 00:56:58,215 --> 00:57:01,051 And that's the kind of insane bullshit 1360 00:57:01,051 --> 00:57:03,521 that Fox News gets people to believe. 1361 00:57:12,129 --> 00:57:14,765 I never knew there was war on Christmas 1362 00:57:14,765 --> 00:57:16,967 until my dad started sending us, 1363 00:57:16,967 --> 00:57:20,771 the whole family, e-mails about dreaded, 1364 00:57:20,771 --> 00:57:22,973 horrible, terrible, evil liberals, 1365 00:57:22,973 --> 00:57:25,209 who wanted to kill Christmas, 1366 00:57:25,209 --> 00:57:28,579 and... Liberals who didn't even 1367 00:57:28,579 --> 00:57:31,649 want Christmas trees in schools, 1368 00:57:31,649 --> 00:57:34,652 or red, or green allowed anywhere, 1369 00:57:34,652 --> 00:57:36,987 and... whether it was Christmas day or not. 1370 00:57:36,987 --> 00:57:40,090 In fact, it usually wasn't Christmas day. 1371 00:57:40,090 --> 00:57:44,829 He would just say adamantly, "merry Christmas!" 1372 00:57:44,829 --> 00:57:47,031 Wherever he went, to... 1373 00:57:47,031 --> 00:57:49,734 If... if he saw somebody in front of a synagogue, 1374 00:57:49,734 --> 00:57:53,237 let's say, he would say, "Merry Christmas." 1375 00:57:53,237 --> 00:57:55,540 'Cause those damn liberals, 1376 00:57:55,540 --> 00:57:57,274 they weren't gonna take away Christmas from him, 1377 00:57:57,274 --> 00:57:59,544 there was no, "Happy Holidays," 1378 00:57:59,544 --> 00:58:02,547 for Frank Senko, my dad. 1379 00:58:09,954 --> 00:58:12,222 So, I learned how the country 1380 00:58:12,222 --> 00:58:13,991 was pushed to the right, 1381 00:58:13,991 --> 00:58:15,760 and a whole new media 1382 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,529 was created to help that along. 1383 00:58:18,529 --> 00:58:22,833 My dad, and many others, got swept up in that tide. 1384 00:58:22,833 --> 00:58:26,003 I didn't think he was actually brainwashed. 1385 00:58:26,003 --> 00:58:28,205 Didn't you need brainwashing camps? 1386 00:58:28,205 --> 00:58:31,008 Like, where someone is locked away, 1387 00:58:31,008 --> 00:58:33,944 with constant words, and images coming at them, 1388 00:58:33,944 --> 00:58:35,846 in their every waking hour? 1389 00:58:35,846 --> 00:58:38,182 But I wanted to explore that notion. 1390 00:58:38,182 --> 00:58:40,284 I found neuroscientist, 1391 00:58:40,284 --> 00:58:41,886 Kathleen Taylor, from London, 1392 00:58:41,886 --> 00:58:44,589 who is an expert on brainwashing. 1393 00:58:44,589 --> 00:58:46,256 I interviewed her via Skype. 1394 00:58:46,256 --> 00:58:48,025 There are kind of two ways 1395 00:58:48,025 --> 00:58:49,694 you can think about brainwashing. 1396 00:58:49,694 --> 00:58:52,162 You can either think of it as this very coercive, 1397 00:58:52,162 --> 00:58:54,231 forced, psychological torture, 1398 00:58:54,231 --> 00:58:56,300 where people are put into situations, 1399 00:58:56,300 --> 00:58:58,769 put through horrors, and, you know, 1400 00:58:58,769 --> 00:59:01,071 actually browbeaten into believing, 1401 00:59:01,071 --> 00:59:03,808 or pretending to believe, something new. 1402 00:59:03,808 --> 00:59:05,710 So, that's brainwashing by force, if you like. 1403 00:59:05,710 --> 00:59:07,277 Then there's brainwashing by stealth, 1404 00:59:07,277 --> 00:59:08,713 which is where, 1405 00:59:08,713 --> 00:59:10,047 it's not so much that they are forced 1406 00:59:10,047 --> 00:59:11,281 to believe stuff, 1407 00:59:11,281 --> 00:59:13,584 it's just that all the information 1408 00:59:13,584 --> 00:59:16,053 that comes at them, is pushing a line. 1409 00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:17,622 And so, there is no alternative 1410 00:59:17,622 --> 00:59:18,789 in terms of information. 1411 00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:20,224 And if you control the information 1412 00:59:20,224 --> 00:59:21,258 that goes into the brain, 1413 00:59:21,258 --> 00:59:22,793 to a great degree, 1414 00:59:22,793 --> 00:59:24,695 you control what that brain is gonna do 1415 00:59:24,695 --> 00:59:27,097 in terms of what the person's gonna believe. 1416 00:59:27,097 --> 00:59:29,133 You're not forcing anybody to believe it, 1417 00:59:29,133 --> 00:59:30,735 but you're making it difficult for them 1418 00:59:30,735 --> 00:59:31,969 to think of anything else 1419 00:59:31,969 --> 00:59:33,804 because the horizons are narrowed. 1420 00:59:33,804 --> 00:59:35,139 What's happening is that, 1421 00:59:35,139 --> 00:59:37,608 there's a kind of filtration process 1422 00:59:37,608 --> 00:59:40,044 whereby, information comes in 1423 00:59:40,044 --> 00:59:43,948 and it's checked, to see how easily it fits into what's already there. 1424 00:59:43,948 --> 00:59:46,784 That brought me back to George Lakoff. 1425 00:59:46,784 --> 00:59:48,352 You can only understand 1426 00:59:48,352 --> 00:59:50,054 what the neurocircuits of your brain 1427 00:59:50,054 --> 00:59:51,622 allow you to understand. 1428 00:59:51,622 --> 00:59:53,991 Any fact that doesn't fit that 1429 00:59:53,991 --> 00:59:55,693 will be ignored, 1430 00:59:55,693 --> 00:59:58,128 or rejected as ridiculous and so on. 1431 00:59:58,128 --> 01:00:00,030 They don't know their brains have been changed. 1432 01:00:00,030 --> 01:00:02,066 They don't know this mechanism. 1433 01:00:02,066 --> 01:00:03,801 It's just there. They listen to it. 1434 01:00:03,801 --> 01:00:05,870 It slides in, and you barely notice, 1435 01:00:05,870 --> 01:00:07,271 because the information's familiar, 1436 01:00:07,271 --> 01:00:09,139 you don't have to think about it. 1437 01:00:09,139 --> 01:00:11,876 If those beliefs are very strongly and passionately held, 1438 01:00:11,876 --> 01:00:13,711 then you may find 1439 01:00:13,711 --> 01:00:16,013 that any belief that threatens them, 1440 01:00:16,013 --> 01:00:18,182 is just rejected out of hand. 1441 01:00:18,182 --> 01:00:21,018 You can't win, because it doesn't make any difference 1442 01:00:21,018 --> 01:00:24,021 how many facts you put out there. 1443 01:00:24,021 --> 01:00:26,290 It's all about the emotion of... 1444 01:00:26,290 --> 01:00:30,360 Of anger, and hate, and fear. 1445 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,962 When I think about brainwashing, 1446 01:00:31,962 --> 01:00:33,798 I tend to think about 1447 01:00:33,798 --> 01:00:36,901 kind of five important factors that are involved 1448 01:00:36,901 --> 01:00:39,336 in creating this kind of belief change. 1449 01:00:39,336 --> 01:00:41,939 So, those are... 1450 01:00:44,909 --> 01:00:48,145 ...and then there’s also the use of strong emotions. 1451 01:00:48,145 --> 01:00:51,315 It often seemed that my dad was actually addicted 1452 01:00:51,315 --> 01:00:53,283 to these angry emotions. 1453 01:00:53,283 --> 01:00:56,220 He just couldn't wait to shut himself off, 1454 01:00:56,220 --> 01:00:58,823 and listen to Rush Limbaugh for three hours 1455 01:00:58,823 --> 01:01:00,858 and get all pissed off. 1456 01:01:00,858 --> 01:01:03,293 If you watch something that makes you very angry, 1457 01:01:03,293 --> 01:01:04,929 you can start getting addicted to that, 1458 01:01:04,929 --> 01:01:06,296 because you get angry... 1459 01:01:06,296 --> 01:01:08,065 You get angry, that drives stress response. 1460 01:01:08,065 --> 01:01:09,133 Endorphin is released 1461 01:01:09,133 --> 01:01:11,101 as part of the stress response. 1462 01:01:11,101 --> 01:01:13,237 And endorphin is the main pleasure chemical in the brain. 1463 01:01:13,237 --> 01:01:16,040 The tricky thing is, it's mostly unconscious. 1464 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,443 People are sort of tricked, like in the case of your... of your father. 1465 01:01:19,443 --> 01:01:22,079 Okay, so clearly, the media has a very powerful 1466 01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:24,849 and profound effect on all of us. 1467 01:01:24,849 --> 01:01:27,251 So, I wondered if there were certain techniques 1468 01:01:27,251 --> 01:01:29,419 right wing media especially, 1469 01:01:29,419 --> 01:01:32,122 uses to create that belief change, 1470 01:01:32,122 --> 01:01:34,859 that Kathleen Taylor talks about, 1471 01:01:34,859 --> 01:01:39,263 which, quite often, results in people voting against their own interests, 1472 01:01:39,263 --> 01:01:43,868 or even going against the very core of who they are. 1473 01:01:43,868 --> 01:01:45,035 And I came across 1474 01:01:45,035 --> 01:01:46,837 several scientists and doctors 1475 01:01:46,837 --> 01:01:49,774 who identified some of these tactics. 1476 01:02:01,752 --> 01:02:05,222 We know he's got tons of weapons in his own country, 1477 01:02:05,222 --> 01:02:08,225 and we're not gonna ever locate them until he's gone. 1478 01:02:08,225 --> 01:02:09,459 At the time was we thought 1479 01:02:09,459 --> 01:02:11,061 he had weapons of mass destruction. 1480 01:02:11,061 --> 01:02:12,830 It turns out, he didn't. 1481 01:02:12,830 --> 01:02:14,264 He followed the rules, 1482 01:02:14,264 --> 01:02:15,766 Bush did, 1483 01:02:15,766 --> 01:02:17,101 and we lost that, we lost the weapons. 1484 01:02:17,101 --> 01:02:19,036 They never found weapons of mass destruction. 1485 01:02:19,036 --> 01:02:20,504 They had 'em, but they moved them. 1486 01:02:20,504 --> 01:02:22,372 They were moving everything into Syria. 1487 01:02:22,372 --> 01:02:27,878 U-gov found that 63% of Republicans still believe 1488 01:02:27,878 --> 01:02:30,280 that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction 1489 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,217 when the U.S. invaded in 2003. 1490 01:02:34,318 --> 01:02:36,153 What news shows often do, 1491 01:02:36,153 --> 01:02:39,289 is they'll... They'll cite a statistic 1492 01:02:39,289 --> 01:02:41,158 or they'll cite a finding, 1493 01:02:41,158 --> 01:02:43,493 but they won't really tell you where it's from. 1494 01:02:43,493 --> 01:02:45,295 They won't tell you much about the study, 1495 01:02:45,295 --> 01:02:46,363 they won't tell you 1496 01:02:46,363 --> 01:02:48,465 who's compiling that statistic, 1497 01:02:48,465 --> 01:02:50,500 they just kind of cite it out of thin air. 1498 01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:52,236 Who's put the statistic out? 1499 01:02:52,236 --> 01:02:54,471 Is this scientifically proven? 1500 01:02:54,471 --> 01:02:56,340 Was it peer reviewed? Who paid for it? 1501 01:02:56,340 --> 01:02:58,375 Fairleigh Dickinson University's 1502 01:02:58,375 --> 01:02:59,810 public mind survey, 1503 01:02:59,810 --> 01:03:03,413 asked 1,185 nationwide respondents 1504 01:03:03,413 --> 01:03:05,349 what their news sources were, 1505 01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:07,217 and then asked them about the events, 1506 01:03:07,217 --> 01:03:10,120 in the U.S. and abroad. 1507 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,488 Fox viewers got less right 1508 01:03:11,488 --> 01:03:13,858 than people who watched no news, at all. 1509 01:03:15,525 --> 01:03:17,361 They'll say something that's just blatantly, 1510 01:03:17,361 --> 01:03:18,829 obviously false. 1511 01:03:18,829 --> 01:03:22,232 I'll say, "find me any legit source, 1512 01:03:22,232 --> 01:03:23,367 that backs you up, 1513 01:03:23,367 --> 01:03:24,902 and fine, I'll believe it." 1514 01:03:24,902 --> 01:03:26,103 They're like, "oh, well, 1515 01:03:26,103 --> 01:03:28,605 every single newspaper in America 1516 01:03:28,605 --> 01:03:31,842 is run by liberal elites with an agenda." 1517 01:03:31,842 --> 01:03:34,178 Well, okay, if the only news source 1518 01:03:34,178 --> 01:03:36,213 that you can trust is Fox News, 1519 01:03:36,213 --> 01:03:37,347 that sounds really paranoid. 1520 01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:41,919 The noise machine is really designed 1521 01:03:41,919 --> 01:03:43,153 to create confusion, 1522 01:03:43,153 --> 01:03:46,857 create misinformation, create fear. 1523 01:03:46,857 --> 01:03:49,393 And so, the republican noise machine 1524 01:03:49,393 --> 01:03:51,028 is one of the republican party's 1525 01:03:51,028 --> 01:03:53,630 sort of works in concert with Fox News, 1526 01:03:53,630 --> 01:03:56,200 with Rush Limbaugh, with am talk radio, 1527 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,169 and it's really designed just to distract people, 1528 01:03:59,169 --> 01:04:00,604 to attack, and smear people. 1529 01:04:00,604 --> 01:04:03,874 The absolute base of it is the deliberate 1530 01:04:03,874 --> 01:04:05,976 dissemination of misinformation. 1531 01:04:05,976 --> 01:04:07,411 In order to confuse the viewers, 1532 01:04:07,411 --> 01:04:10,280 and news consumers and get them all riled up. 1533 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,082 I asked Eric to give me some examples 1534 01:04:12,082 --> 01:04:14,284 of Deliberate misinformation. 1535 01:04:14,284 --> 01:04:17,087 During the 2008 campaign, 1536 01:04:17,087 --> 01:04:18,923 there was sort of this right wing crusade 1537 01:04:18,923 --> 01:04:22,159 about voter fraud and voter registration. 1538 01:04:22,159 --> 01:04:24,194 There's very little voter fraud, meaning 1539 01:04:24,194 --> 01:04:26,163 someone shows up to the voting place 1540 01:04:26,163 --> 01:04:28,265 and pretends to be somebody else to vote. 1541 01:04:29,533 --> 01:04:31,068 Some of the worst things, 1542 01:04:31,068 --> 01:04:33,503 remember the massive attempt 1543 01:04:33,503 --> 01:04:37,975 to create the climate change denial 1544 01:04:37,975 --> 01:04:39,276 with huge programs. 1545 01:04:39,276 --> 01:04:41,678 The American chamber of commerce, 1546 01:04:41,678 --> 01:04:44,081 the drilling industry, they have announced publicly 1547 01:04:44,081 --> 01:04:46,383 that they're carrying out propaganda. 1548 01:04:46,383 --> 01:04:49,286 They probably go to educational programs 1549 01:04:49,286 --> 01:04:50,654 to explain to people 1550 01:04:50,654 --> 01:04:54,191 that humans don't have anything to do with 1551 01:04:54,191 --> 01:04:56,126 climate change, and so on. 1552 01:04:56,126 --> 01:04:58,562 But, you gotta make profit tomorrow. 1553 01:04:58,562 --> 01:05:00,564 And if the species goes down the tube, 1554 01:05:00,564 --> 01:05:02,066 that's somebody else's problem. 1555 01:05:02,066 --> 01:05:03,300 And the arctic ice cap 1556 01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:04,634 at the north pole. 1557 01:05:04,634 --> 01:05:07,404 It's in it's so-called normal range, 1558 01:05:07,404 --> 01:05:09,139 not only is the ice not melting, 1559 01:05:09,139 --> 01:05:12,142 more polar bears are alive and happy today 1560 01:05:12,142 --> 01:05:14,411 than we've had in 100 years. 1561 01:05:14,411 --> 01:05:17,047 Life is good, miss, uh, miss Kelly. 1562 01:05:17,047 --> 01:05:19,449 I gotta tell ya, life is good. 1563 01:05:27,291 --> 01:05:30,060 The goal is to get people so mad 1564 01:05:30,060 --> 01:05:31,695 at each other, that they... 1565 01:05:44,441 --> 01:05:45,575 Bob Haldeman, 1566 01:05:45,575 --> 01:05:47,244 Nixon's famous chief of staff 1567 01:05:47,244 --> 01:05:48,712 went on to "the today show," 1568 01:05:48,712 --> 01:05:51,215 and said, "all politics is the politics of division." 1569 01:05:51,215 --> 01:05:52,983 The team that manages to divide the country 1570 01:05:52,983 --> 01:05:55,085 and end up with the bigger side, wins. 1571 01:05:55,085 --> 01:05:57,554 On one side, president Obama and the Democratic party, 1572 01:05:57,554 --> 01:06:00,124 want America to become an entitlement state 1573 01:06:00,124 --> 01:06:02,226 versus a self-reliant one. 1574 01:06:02,226 --> 01:06:03,460 With... with African-Americans, 1575 01:06:03,460 --> 01:06:05,329 is that we're all on welfare. 1576 01:06:05,329 --> 01:06:06,696 The assumption is, is that, 1577 01:06:06,696 --> 01:06:08,165 is that we can't get that 1578 01:06:08,165 --> 01:06:09,566 without taking it from somebody else, 1579 01:06:09,566 --> 01:06:10,667 and that's simply not true. 1580 01:06:10,667 --> 01:06:13,070 Welfare is very, very generous. 1581 01:06:13,070 --> 01:06:14,571 You're not motivated to succeed, 1582 01:06:14,571 --> 01:06:16,606 because you are getting free stuff 1583 01:06:16,606 --> 01:06:18,342 from the government. 1584 01:06:18,342 --> 01:06:20,644 You are surrounded by goodies that are put onto you. 1585 01:06:22,212 --> 01:06:23,713 Well, as long as he's... 1586 01:06:23,713 --> 01:06:26,350 As long as the government is supplying him 1587 01:06:26,350 --> 01:06:27,584 the... the money, 1588 01:06:27,584 --> 01:06:30,687 just that, he needs to live on, 1589 01:06:30,687 --> 01:06:33,490 he's not interested in getting a job. 1590 01:06:33,490 --> 01:06:35,125 So, he could, 1591 01:06:35,125 --> 01:06:36,660 he'll go on year after year, 1592 01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:38,095 after year, 1593 01:06:38,095 --> 01:06:39,496 you know, on the government dole 1594 01:06:39,496 --> 01:06:41,398 and not bother getting a job. 1595 01:06:43,267 --> 01:06:45,502 "Branding," is about creating an image 1596 01:06:45,502 --> 01:06:47,337 that will stick in the mind. 1597 01:06:47,337 --> 01:06:49,673 Whether that image created is accurate or not, 1598 01:06:49,673 --> 01:06:51,208 doesn't matter. 1599 01:06:51,208 --> 01:06:53,110 Democrats, liberals, and progressives 1600 01:06:53,110 --> 01:06:55,079 are branded as big government spenders, 1601 01:06:55,079 --> 01:06:56,813 dishonest, America-hating elitists 1602 01:06:56,813 --> 01:06:59,083 who are all atheists, who hate Christmas, 1603 01:06:59,083 --> 01:07:01,418 and are soft on crime, and weak on defense. 1604 01:07:01,418 --> 01:07:03,520 They've branded the media as liberal, 1605 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,589 so much so, that it's taken for granted 1606 01:07:05,589 --> 01:07:07,191 that it's true. 1607 01:07:07,191 --> 01:07:10,060 - One, catchphrase... -mm-hmm. 1608 01:07:10,060 --> 01:07:12,829 ...that I... I hear over and over again, 1609 01:07:12,829 --> 01:07:14,731 -is "liberal media." - Mm-hmm. 1610 01:07:14,731 --> 01:07:17,501 - Did you hear your dad... -all the time. 1611 01:07:17,501 --> 01:07:19,536 I heard him use the term, "liberal media" all the time. 1612 01:07:19,536 --> 01:07:20,804 He'd be like, "oh, you can't listen 1613 01:07:20,804 --> 01:07:22,606 to liberal media." 1614 01:07:22,606 --> 01:07:25,175 As if there was no such thing as the conservative media. 1615 01:07:25,175 --> 01:07:29,546 If you analyze news coverage, as fair has done, 1616 01:07:29,546 --> 01:07:31,548 you find that the news tilts 1617 01:07:31,548 --> 01:07:33,117 a little bit to the right. 1618 01:07:33,117 --> 01:07:34,484 It's sort of centre-right. 1619 01:07:34,484 --> 01:07:36,286 Republicans usually outnumber democrats. 1620 01:07:36,286 --> 01:07:38,122 It's just pure math. 1621 01:07:38,122 --> 01:07:40,257 And then people say, "well, why do so many people believe 1622 01:07:40,257 --> 01:07:41,625 the liberal media myth?" 1623 01:07:41,625 --> 01:07:44,528 If you keep handing opinion-shaping power 1624 01:07:44,528 --> 01:07:46,830 to right wingers, who don't have evidence 1625 01:07:46,830 --> 01:07:48,832 to yell about, "oh, liberals, the liberals, 1626 01:07:48,832 --> 01:07:50,667 the liberals, the liberals who done..." 1627 01:07:50,667 --> 01:07:52,269 well, it's gonna have some traction. 1628 01:07:52,269 --> 01:07:53,270 The liberal media. 1629 01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:54,271 Liberal media? 1630 01:07:54,271 --> 01:07:55,272 Liberal bias. 1631 01:07:55,272 --> 01:07:56,640 Liberal media folk. 1632 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,276 - Liberal press. - It is the liberal media. 1633 01:07:59,276 --> 01:08:02,646 And so, he watches Fox News, 1634 01:08:02,646 --> 01:08:07,751 and he says to me, "Fox News tells the stories 1635 01:08:07,751 --> 01:08:11,655 that the liberal media does not want to air. 1636 01:08:11,655 --> 01:08:13,890 And I think, 1637 01:08:13,890 --> 01:08:16,693 "yeah. But Fox News makes stuff up." 1638 01:08:16,693 --> 01:08:18,228 You know? 1639 01:08:18,228 --> 01:08:19,863 So, no wonder you can hear things there 1640 01:08:19,863 --> 01:08:21,865 that you won't hear in the so-called, 1641 01:08:21,865 --> 01:08:22,799 "liberal media." 1642 01:08:26,403 --> 01:08:27,871 Language is not neutral. 1643 01:08:27,871 --> 01:08:30,240 And in politics, it's anything but neutral. 1644 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,909 This became professionalized in 1994. 1645 01:08:32,909 --> 01:08:36,446 When Newt Gingrich hired Frank Luntz. 1646 01:08:36,446 --> 01:08:38,715 Frank is the genius right wing wordsmith 1647 01:08:38,715 --> 01:08:40,317 who taught Republicans to, 1648 01:08:40,317 --> 01:08:42,919 instead of saying, "estate tax," 1649 01:08:42,919 --> 01:08:44,788 say "death tax." 1650 01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:48,558 So, you have managed to shift popular 1651 01:08:48,558 --> 01:08:52,296 opinion on a lot of unpopular, everyday concepts, 1652 01:08:52,296 --> 01:08:54,398 like inherited wealth, 1653 01:08:54,398 --> 01:08:56,466 by labeling it, the "death tax." 1654 01:08:56,466 --> 01:08:58,835 I have fought over the validity 1655 01:08:58,835 --> 01:09:00,337 of the "death tax" 1656 01:09:00,337 --> 01:09:03,273 since I started working in this space. 1657 01:09:03,273 --> 01:09:04,441 And I went out and tested it. 1658 01:09:04,441 --> 01:09:06,710 And my god, 1659 01:09:06,710 --> 01:09:08,378 it changed the dynamic 1660 01:09:08,378 --> 01:09:10,780 of how people looked at policy. 1661 01:09:10,780 --> 01:09:12,249 Instead of saying, "poor people," 1662 01:09:12,249 --> 01:09:13,617 say, "the takers." 1663 01:09:13,617 --> 01:09:15,652 Did I say, "don't tax rich people"? 1664 01:09:15,652 --> 01:09:18,288 I meant, encourage the job creators. 1665 01:09:18,288 --> 01:09:20,857 What's the difference between drilling for oil, 1666 01:09:20,857 --> 01:09:23,260 and energy exploration? 1667 01:09:23,260 --> 01:09:25,929 Nothing, except one sounds like something assholes do, 1668 01:09:25,929 --> 01:09:28,865 and one sounds like Indiana Jones. 1669 01:09:28,865 --> 01:09:30,500 Did I say, "don't let black people vote"? 1670 01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:33,637 I meant, clamp down on voter fraud. 1671 01:09:33,637 --> 01:09:35,572 Healthcare reform, everyone likes that. 1672 01:09:38,408 --> 01:09:39,843 So I asked him, which frightens you more, 1673 01:09:39,843 --> 01:09:41,645 government control or government takeover? 1674 01:09:41,645 --> 01:09:42,979 Oh, clearly, government takeover. 1675 01:09:42,979 --> 01:09:45,282 Oh, I think it was 27 out of 30. 1676 01:09:45,282 --> 01:09:46,850 That's it. 1677 01:09:46,850 --> 01:09:48,618 Once the word is decided on, 1678 01:09:48,618 --> 01:09:50,320 every single republican, 1679 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,389 from the presidential contenders, 1680 01:09:52,389 --> 01:09:54,458 on down to the feces throwers 1681 01:09:54,458 --> 01:09:56,760 on hate radio. 1682 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,862 All chant it like "rain man" 1683 01:09:58,862 --> 01:10:00,297 over and over 1684 01:10:00,297 --> 01:10:02,399 until it's beaten into our skulls. 1685 01:10:13,410 --> 01:10:15,645 "...and when they can't think rationally, 1686 01:10:15,645 --> 01:10:17,547 they'll believe anything." 1687 01:10:17,547 --> 01:10:19,883 Fox News is built on this formula, 1688 01:10:19,883 --> 01:10:22,452 of just getting people really, really angry. 1689 01:10:22,452 --> 01:10:24,621 It's this phony, outrage machine. 1690 01:10:24,621 --> 01:10:25,822 Particularly on Fox News, 1691 01:10:25,822 --> 01:10:27,424 I mean, they really are actors. 1692 01:10:27,424 --> 01:10:29,659 Acting about how outraged they are. 1693 01:10:29,659 --> 01:10:32,429 Give me one damn program... 1694 01:10:32,429 --> 01:10:33,963 Is anybody else a little pissed off by that? 1695 01:10:33,963 --> 01:10:35,799 Obama attacks America. 1696 01:10:35,799 --> 01:10:37,434 I'm more angry about it than you are. 1697 01:10:37,434 --> 01:10:40,404 I told you that you need to be afraid 1698 01:10:40,404 --> 01:10:42,472 because they are coming for you. 1699 01:10:42,472 --> 01:10:44,007 Isis coming into America. 1700 01:10:44,007 --> 01:10:45,575 I would bet my life on the fact. 1701 01:10:45,575 --> 01:10:46,876 They're already here. 1702 01:10:46,876 --> 01:10:48,712 And I have caught these people before, 1703 01:10:48,712 --> 01:10:50,647 and I've seen qurans prayer rugs, you name it. 1704 01:10:50,647 --> 01:10:52,282 They're already here. 1705 01:10:52,282 --> 01:10:53,983 "A self-styled militia patrolling 1706 01:10:53,983 --> 01:10:55,719 the Mexican-U.S. border, 1707 01:10:55,719 --> 01:10:58,455 contacted Breitbart.com, and relayed the discovery 1708 01:10:58,455 --> 01:11:00,424 of the 'rug' Monday night, 1709 01:11:00,424 --> 01:11:02,726 just south of the Sierra Vista 1710 01:11:02,726 --> 01:11:05,362 in Coronado National Forest." 1711 01:11:05,362 --> 01:11:06,996 You wanna know what it turned out to be? 1712 01:11:06,996 --> 01:11:09,499 An Adidas Jersey. 1713 01:11:09,499 --> 01:11:11,468 Isis, I mean, you know, they're here. 1714 01:11:11,468 --> 01:11:13,503 - They're here. - You think they're here? 1715 01:11:13,503 --> 01:11:16,072 Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I think they're waiting for the whistle to blow. 1716 01:11:16,072 --> 01:11:17,707 They're gonna come out, and take over. 1717 01:11:19,008 --> 01:11:20,844 I think they will. I really think they do. 1718 01:11:20,844 --> 01:11:22,379 I'm scared for the country. 1719 01:11:25,549 --> 01:11:27,551 The effect of bullying is simple. 1720 01:11:27,551 --> 01:11:29,386 It operates on two levels. 1721 01:11:29,386 --> 01:11:32,489 One, is it shuts the guest up if they're making a point 1722 01:11:32,489 --> 01:11:35,525 that the bullier doesn't want the audience to hear. 1723 01:11:35,525 --> 01:11:37,794 Is Hamas... What part of this 1724 01:11:37,794 --> 01:11:39,763 -can't you get through your thick head? - I think... 1725 01:11:39,763 --> 01:11:42,499 -is Hamas a terrorist organization? - Excuse me? 1726 01:11:42,499 --> 01:11:44,634 - An orbital eye socket fracture... -well, that... okay. 1727 01:11:44,634 --> 01:11:47,103 And eyewitnesses say that Michael brown charged at him. 1728 01:11:47,103 --> 01:11:48,772 - You weren't there. - Oh, I'm sorry, I... 1729 01:11:48,772 --> 01:11:50,507 I believe you cut my mic off. 1730 01:11:50,507 --> 01:11:52,442 And two, the fake outrage 1731 01:11:52,442 --> 01:11:54,411 makes the bullier look justified, 1732 01:11:54,411 --> 01:11:55,712 as they try to shame 1733 01:11:55,712 --> 01:11:57,714 their frustrated guest into silence. 1734 01:11:57,714 --> 01:11:59,949 ...understand, you've got an agenda here. We just think... 1735 01:11:59,949 --> 01:12:02,619 - We don't have an agenda. - ...that the American people ought to know... 1736 01:12:02,619 --> 01:12:05,455 I understand you don't like it, 1737 01:12:05,455 --> 01:12:08,091 and sometimes your candidate has complained about it. - Okay, go ahead. 1738 01:12:11,561 --> 01:12:12,962 ...but Fox News reports it straight, 1739 01:12:12,962 --> 01:12:14,531 fair and balanced, as always. 1740 01:12:14,531 --> 01:12:16,600 Bill Burton. Thanks so much for being here. 1741 01:12:19,135 --> 01:12:21,004 And he listens to Rush Limbaugh. 1742 01:12:21,004 --> 01:12:23,940 They have on Fox News in almost every room. 1743 01:12:23,940 --> 01:12:25,575 Fox News, 24-7. 1744 01:12:25,575 --> 01:12:27,110 I guess we're just watching 1745 01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:29,012 talking heads all day on Fox News. 1746 01:12:29,012 --> 01:12:30,714 All the homes in their neighborhood, 1747 01:12:30,714 --> 01:12:33,149 are tuned into Fox News, all the time. 1748 01:12:33,149 --> 01:12:35,084 Fox News is on 24-7. 1749 01:12:35,084 --> 01:12:37,153 Rush Limbaugh is on five days a week. 1750 01:12:37,153 --> 01:12:39,623 There's Michael Savage, Alex Jones, 1751 01:12:39,623 --> 01:12:40,690 "The Mark Levin Show", 1752 01:12:40,690 --> 01:12:41,891 the "New York Post", 1753 01:12:41,891 --> 01:12:43,560 "The Wall Street Journal" op-ed, 1754 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,161 the "Drudge Report", "The Weekly Standard", 1755 01:12:45,161 --> 01:12:46,396 "Newsmax", "Breitbart", 1756 01:12:46,396 --> 01:12:47,597 "American spectator", 1757 01:12:47,597 --> 01:12:49,833 "Tea Party Express," and then there's 1758 01:12:49,833 --> 01:12:52,035 the avalanche of conservative e-mails. 1759 01:12:52,035 --> 01:12:54,871 Fox News can be found in hospitals, 1760 01:12:54,871 --> 01:12:57,173 bus stations, gyms, airports, 1761 01:12:57,173 --> 01:12:59,108 even bars and restaurants. 1762 01:12:59,108 --> 01:13:02,446 The primary TV outlet for the right is Fox, 1763 01:13:02,446 --> 01:13:04,448 and their audience is loyal. 1764 01:13:04,448 --> 01:13:05,949 How loyal? 1765 01:13:05,949 --> 01:13:08,418 Consistent liberals have an array of news sources 1766 01:13:08,418 --> 01:13:09,986 according to pew research. 1767 01:13:09,986 --> 01:13:13,156 Whereas, 47% of consistent conservatives 1768 01:13:13,156 --> 01:13:16,760 tightly cluster around Fox News. 1769 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,562 As far as talk radio goes, 1770 01:13:18,562 --> 01:13:21,431 roughly 97% of talk radio stations 1771 01:13:21,431 --> 01:13:22,566 are conservative, 1772 01:13:22,566 --> 01:13:26,670 while only 3% are progressive. 1773 01:13:26,670 --> 01:13:28,738 Carol Wallin told me that Rush Limbaugh 1774 01:13:28,738 --> 01:13:31,475 is being played on military bases. 1775 01:13:31,475 --> 01:13:33,009 I wanted to know how that happened. 1776 01:13:34,077 --> 01:13:36,613 In 1993, 1777 01:13:36,613 --> 01:13:38,882 representative Robert Dornan, 1778 01:13:38,882 --> 01:13:40,116 gathered up 70 1779 01:13:40,116 --> 01:13:43,019 of his closest representative friends. 1780 01:13:43,019 --> 01:13:44,621 He thought it was really important 1781 01:13:44,621 --> 01:13:46,189 that Rush Limbaugh be played 1782 01:13:46,189 --> 01:13:47,957 on the armed forces network. 1783 01:13:47,957 --> 01:13:52,095 That this was absolutely a necessity. 1784 01:13:52,095 --> 01:13:55,465 But Robert Dornan himself, is famous for the fact 1785 01:13:55,465 --> 01:13:58,234 that he grabbed another representative's tie, 1786 01:13:58,234 --> 01:14:00,136 on the floor of the house, 1787 01:14:00,136 --> 01:14:01,738 and threatened him with bodily harm. 1788 01:14:04,608 --> 01:14:05,842 It's not just language, 1789 01:14:05,842 --> 01:14:06,910 it's also visuals. 1790 01:14:06,910 --> 01:14:08,612 In his book, 1791 01:14:08,612 --> 01:14:12,448 "state of confusion," doctor Bryant Welch says... 1792 01:14:16,886 --> 01:14:18,755 "...and a seemingly constant state 1793 01:14:18,755 --> 01:14:22,125 of news crises created by 'Fox News alerts.'" 1794 01:14:22,125 --> 01:14:24,093 then, there are the more graphic images, 1795 01:14:24,093 --> 01:14:26,963 that strongly suggest a point they want to make. 1796 01:14:26,963 --> 01:14:28,498 That image looks like it's saying 1797 01:14:28,498 --> 01:14:31,701 that Hamas and Hollywood are one in the same. 1798 01:14:31,701 --> 01:14:32,836 Ouch. 1799 01:14:32,836 --> 01:14:34,270 Sometimes, a camera movement 1800 01:14:34,270 --> 01:14:36,540 is used to distract. 1801 01:14:36,540 --> 01:14:38,207 On Fox, the colors are vivid, 1802 01:14:38,207 --> 01:14:40,610 and the graphics are overwhelming. 1803 01:14:40,610 --> 01:14:43,046 It is more stimulating than most other news shows. 1804 01:14:43,046 --> 01:14:45,649 It creates a mood that mesmerizes it's audience 1805 01:14:45,649 --> 01:14:47,216 and holds them captive. 1806 01:14:47,216 --> 01:14:48,718 Then, while they're captive, 1807 01:14:48,718 --> 01:14:50,954 and overwhelmed, and maybe a bit confused, 1808 01:14:50,954 --> 01:14:52,556 they have someone like Bill O'Reilly, 1809 01:14:52,556 --> 01:14:54,023 or Sean Hannity, 1810 01:14:54,023 --> 01:14:56,092 with their confidence and passion and certitude, 1811 01:14:56,092 --> 01:14:57,894 telling them who they should blame 1812 01:14:57,894 --> 01:15:00,730 for their confusion and uncertainty. 1813 01:15:00,730 --> 01:15:02,932 Each one of these gestures that I have, 1814 01:15:02,932 --> 01:15:05,835 helps communicate an idea or a principle, 1815 01:15:05,835 --> 01:15:08,572 a thought, a fact, an emotion. 1816 01:15:08,572 --> 01:15:09,806 If you start with one hand first, 1817 01:15:09,806 --> 01:15:11,007 and then you get the two, 1818 01:15:11,007 --> 01:15:12,542 you count off with your finger, 1819 01:15:12,542 --> 01:15:13,843 one, two, three. 1820 01:15:13,843 --> 01:15:15,178 The audience that you're speaking to 1821 01:15:15,178 --> 01:15:17,013 is actually counting with you. 1822 01:15:20,283 --> 01:15:21,785 My dad started changing 1823 01:15:21,785 --> 01:15:24,053 when, you know, this guy called Glenn Beck 1824 01:15:24,053 --> 01:15:25,622 came on the air. 1825 01:15:25,622 --> 01:15:27,824 And now he... he expects there's supposed to be 1826 01:15:27,824 --> 01:15:29,826 some sort of civil war next year. 1827 01:15:29,826 --> 01:15:32,562 - He buys a lot of ammo, a lot of guns... - Why? 1828 01:15:32,562 --> 01:15:35,932 What does he expect Obama to do? 1829 01:15:35,932 --> 01:15:38,067 I don't know, take over the world. 1830 01:15:38,067 --> 01:15:41,938 He believes Obama and his administration 1831 01:15:41,938 --> 01:15:43,773 is buying up all the ammo. 1832 01:15:43,773 --> 01:15:46,242 And so, that's why they had me buy the ammo, 1833 01:15:46,242 --> 01:15:47,977 before the government gets it all. 1834 01:16:22,311 --> 01:16:26,215 Black lives matter. 1835 01:16:26,215 --> 01:16:27,751 The savage mind, 1836 01:16:27,751 --> 01:16:30,754 will respond to, uh, to authority, 1837 01:16:30,754 --> 01:16:32,188 if they are convinced 1838 01:16:32,188 --> 01:16:34,858 that that authority is serious. 1839 01:16:38,728 --> 01:16:40,163 This is important for all of us. 1840 01:16:40,163 --> 01:16:41,364 And we are tired, 1841 01:16:41,364 --> 01:16:43,266 we want to come out of the shadows. 1842 01:16:43,266 --> 01:16:45,334 You have other people at the border 1843 01:16:45,334 --> 01:16:46,736 who are here illegally, 1844 01:16:46,736 --> 01:16:48,271 who are crossing over the border, 1845 01:16:48,271 --> 01:16:50,073 and they're very much out of the shadows. 1846 01:16:50,073 --> 01:16:51,775 A long time ago, the feminazis 1847 01:16:51,775 --> 01:16:54,110 began their quest to make women more like men. 1848 01:16:54,110 --> 01:16:55,745 Acquire power like us, 1849 01:16:55,745 --> 01:16:57,180 have careers like us, all that... 1850 01:17:02,018 --> 01:17:05,822 Believe scientists? No! 1851 01:17:05,822 --> 01:17:07,423 All flights from west Africa 1852 01:17:07,423 --> 01:17:09,058 should immediately be discontinued 1853 01:17:09,058 --> 01:17:10,960 these guns don't fire themselves. 1854 01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,196 Don't we have to deal with mental health... 1855 01:17:13,196 --> 01:17:14,964 ...parenting. 1856 01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:28,978 Well, how did you start turning away 1857 01:17:28,978 --> 01:17:30,980 from Rush Limbaugh? 1858 01:17:30,980 --> 01:17:32,682 In the late 90's, 1859 01:17:32,682 --> 01:17:35,018 just playing around with the radio dial, 1860 01:17:35,018 --> 01:17:36,219 I found a, uh, 1861 01:17:36,219 --> 01:17:38,021 I was driving to work one week, 1862 01:17:38,021 --> 01:17:40,123 I had to work on a Saturday, had to be there about noon. 1863 01:17:40,123 --> 01:17:41,758 And, playing around with the radio dial, 1864 01:17:41,758 --> 01:17:44,160 I found a very, very, funny show. 1865 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,394 They sound like this is a lot of fun 1866 01:17:45,394 --> 01:17:46,930 to listen to. 1867 01:17:46,930 --> 01:17:48,431 It was "wait, wait, don't tell me," on NPR. 1868 01:17:48,431 --> 01:17:50,266 Never really listened to it before. 1869 01:17:50,266 --> 01:17:52,869 And I discovered 1870 01:17:52,869 --> 01:17:54,738 they had great shows on the weekends. 1871 01:17:54,738 --> 01:17:56,072 And then, through the week, 1872 01:17:56,072 --> 01:17:57,974 I stopped listening to Hannity at 3:00, 1873 01:17:57,974 --> 01:17:59,976 to switch over to "all things considered." 1874 01:17:59,976 --> 01:18:01,377 I... I'm not gonna sit here and say NPR 1875 01:18:01,377 --> 01:18:04,413 has a left slant or... or a liberal bias, 1876 01:18:04,413 --> 01:18:06,182 but I think their journalism is solid 1877 01:18:06,182 --> 01:18:10,386 and I started basically comparing the quality 1878 01:18:10,386 --> 01:18:12,889 of what... of how the information is presented 1879 01:18:12,889 --> 01:18:16,359 and what I was being told, as opposed to, 1880 01:18:16,359 --> 01:18:17,794 well, I guess I could start seeing 1881 01:18:17,794 --> 01:18:18,995 the right wing talk radio 1882 01:18:18,995 --> 01:18:21,197 as what it is, sheer propaganda. 1883 01:18:21,197 --> 01:18:23,800 We went about trying to deprogram these people. 1884 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,268 I mean there's one thing 1885 01:18:25,268 --> 01:18:27,336 that you didn't have to worry about at dittohead 1886 01:18:27,336 --> 01:18:30,173 is knowing about the study at Tufts University 1887 01:18:30,173 --> 01:18:31,474 saying a woman's bra size, 1888 01:18:31,474 --> 01:18:32,909 you know, the bigger her bra size, 1889 01:18:32,909 --> 01:18:34,243 the lower her I.Q. 1890 01:18:34,243 --> 01:18:36,012 You know, they'd heard all these stories, 1891 01:18:36,012 --> 01:18:39,916 so, it was in some sense, easy to open them up 1892 01:18:39,916 --> 01:18:41,885 when you say, "well, you wanna know something?" 1893 01:18:41,885 --> 01:18:44,220 There was no study at Tufts University. 1894 01:18:44,220 --> 01:18:45,955 You know that story about Chelsea Clinton, 1895 01:18:45,955 --> 01:18:47,290 Hilary and Bill Clinton's daughter, 1896 01:18:47,290 --> 01:18:49,258 being forced to write an essay 1897 01:18:49,258 --> 01:18:51,761 "why I feel guilty being white"? 1898 01:18:51,761 --> 01:18:53,229 There was no such essay. 1899 01:18:53,229 --> 01:18:54,964 There was no such CBS News report 1900 01:18:54,964 --> 01:18:56,199 saying there was an essay. 1901 01:18:56,199 --> 01:18:58,034 So, this begins to, 1902 01:18:58,034 --> 01:19:00,436 you know the deprogramming begins 1903 01:19:00,436 --> 01:19:02,171 when they realize 1904 01:19:02,171 --> 01:19:05,474 that so much of what they believed, was not true. 1905 01:19:05,474 --> 01:19:07,010 What the book does, 1906 01:19:07,010 --> 01:19:09,813 is it basically goes after Rush Limbaugh. 1907 01:19:09,813 --> 01:19:12,348 Looking at the things that he has stated as facts 1908 01:19:12,348 --> 01:19:13,983 on his radio show. 1909 01:19:13,983 --> 01:19:16,152 And basically, debunking them. 1910 01:19:16,152 --> 01:19:18,822 And, many of the pages have the format, where, 1911 01:19:18,822 --> 01:19:21,257 it says, "Limbaugh:" And then a quote, 1912 01:19:21,257 --> 01:19:25,494 and then, "reality:" And then, our research. 1913 01:19:25,494 --> 01:19:27,964 Where it was a highly technical 1914 01:19:27,964 --> 01:19:30,066 or scientific issue, 1915 01:19:30,066 --> 01:19:31,901 we'd go to experts and get them 1916 01:19:31,901 --> 01:19:34,270 and we'd quote them, debunking Limbaugh 1917 01:19:34,270 --> 01:19:37,440 and, it had a... It had a tremendous effect. 1918 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:39,542 The name of our group is Flush Rush. 1919 01:19:39,542 --> 01:19:42,846 We listen to radio stations all over the country, 1920 01:19:42,846 --> 01:19:45,581 to monitor advertisers of Rush Limbaugh, 1921 01:19:45,581 --> 01:19:47,817 and there's usually hundreds of us, 1922 01:19:47,817 --> 01:19:48,885 from all over the country. 1923 01:19:48,885 --> 01:19:51,287 Over 3,000 advertisers. 1924 01:19:51,287 --> 01:19:54,557 Are no longer aired on Rush Limbaugh's station. 1925 01:19:54,557 --> 01:19:56,860 What we call for, is we what reform, 1926 01:19:56,860 --> 01:19:58,294 and restructuring. 1927 01:19:58,294 --> 01:19:59,963 So, where it can be done, 1928 01:19:59,963 --> 01:20:01,965 we would like to see more progressive shows, 1929 01:20:01,965 --> 01:20:04,868 more balance, more working people. 1930 01:20:04,868 --> 01:20:06,302 The voices of working people 1931 01:20:06,302 --> 01:20:08,471 in our commercial and our public broadcasting. 1932 01:20:08,471 --> 01:20:11,340 I mean, it's just amazing that public broadcasting 1933 01:20:11,340 --> 01:20:13,209 has almost no voices 1934 01:20:13,209 --> 01:20:14,543 of disenfranchised people in it. 1935 01:20:14,543 --> 01:20:17,113 That's one of the beauties of wikileaks. 1936 01:20:17,113 --> 01:20:21,284 Wikileaks is really a form of journalism 1937 01:20:21,284 --> 01:20:24,520 that's desperately needed in the existing system. 1938 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:28,892 Because the mainstream media won't collect and report data 1939 01:20:28,892 --> 01:20:30,559 such as wiki-leaks will collect. 1940 01:20:30,559 --> 01:20:32,628 You have to have masses of people 1941 01:20:32,628 --> 01:20:37,100 organizing and... and... Putting pressure on 1942 01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:39,402 really, what it amounts to is a revolution. 1943 01:20:39,402 --> 01:20:41,037 I mean, you know, some kind of, 1944 01:20:41,037 --> 01:20:44,207 political, economic, social revolution 1945 01:20:44,207 --> 01:20:47,143 because you have a powerfully embedded system 1946 01:20:47,143 --> 01:20:49,012 to change it significantly, 1947 01:20:49,012 --> 01:20:51,580 changing the media significantly. 1948 01:20:51,580 --> 01:20:54,951 You have to have people organized, 1949 01:20:54,951 --> 01:20:56,485 and... and force a change. 1950 01:21:01,157 --> 01:21:02,658 There was so much misinformation 1951 01:21:02,658 --> 01:21:04,227 that you had to Wade through. 1952 01:21:04,227 --> 01:21:06,062 That, we felt like, it was really important 1953 01:21:06,062 --> 01:21:07,563 to... to finally take that on directly, 1954 01:21:07,563 --> 01:21:10,033 so much of the work that we do around different issues, 1955 01:21:10,033 --> 01:21:13,336 is around putting out fires, responding to this attack, 1956 01:21:13,336 --> 01:21:15,271 or this bad Bill motivated by 1957 01:21:15,271 --> 01:21:17,206 far-right ideologues. 1958 01:21:17,206 --> 01:21:19,075 This is a problem that a whole lot of people 1959 01:21:19,075 --> 01:21:20,509 are dealing with in different states, 1960 01:21:20,509 --> 01:21:22,445 in different cities, in different communities. 1961 01:21:22,445 --> 01:21:24,280 So, you know, we're working at the grassroots, 1962 01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:25,915 we're working one-on-one with people, 1963 01:21:25,915 --> 01:21:28,317 around their specific issues and situations 1964 01:21:28,317 --> 01:21:29,385 to help them deal with that, 1965 01:21:29,385 --> 01:21:30,653 because, you know, 1966 01:21:30,653 --> 01:21:32,388 these kind of changes have to happen 1967 01:21:32,388 --> 01:21:34,457 person by person, family by family, 1968 01:21:34,457 --> 01:21:36,292 interaction by interaction. 1969 01:21:36,292 --> 01:21:38,094 What they say about deprogramming, 1970 01:21:38,094 --> 01:21:39,996 specifically, I think, you know, with cult folks 1971 01:21:39,996 --> 01:21:42,465 who get involved in cults... 1972 01:21:42,465 --> 01:21:47,070 The bubble of conspiracy, or misinformation, 1973 01:21:47,070 --> 01:21:48,671 with one fact, right, 1974 01:21:48,671 --> 01:21:50,506 that that helps the entire artifice, 1975 01:21:50,506 --> 01:21:52,341 ultimately crumble. 1976 01:21:52,341 --> 01:21:54,477 If you're wondering what happened with my dad, 1977 01:21:54,477 --> 01:21:56,345 here's the story. 1978 01:21:56,345 --> 01:21:58,948 My parents moved to a senior community, 1979 01:21:58,948 --> 01:22:00,349 and apparently during the move, 1980 01:22:00,349 --> 01:22:02,585 my dad's kitchen radio broke. 1981 01:22:02,585 --> 01:22:04,487 He never got around to fixing it, 1982 01:22:04,487 --> 01:22:08,191 so it sat in the garage, with the other broken radios. 1983 01:22:08,191 --> 01:22:11,227 My parents started eating lunch together again. 1984 01:22:11,227 --> 01:22:12,962 But he still watched Fox, 1985 01:22:12,962 --> 01:22:14,497 and still got the right wing e-mails 1986 01:22:14,497 --> 01:22:15,731 and snail mail. 1987 01:22:15,731 --> 01:22:17,500 When the TV in the kitchen broke, 1988 01:22:17,500 --> 01:22:18,667 they got a new one, 1989 01:22:18,667 --> 01:22:21,104 and mom programmed the remotes. 1990 01:22:21,104 --> 01:22:22,438 He didn't want to bother to figure out 1991 01:22:22,438 --> 01:22:24,173 how how my mother programmed them, 1992 01:22:24,173 --> 01:22:26,976 so he just watched whatever my mother watched. 1993 01:22:26,976 --> 01:22:28,311 One time, when he went in the hospital 1994 01:22:28,311 --> 01:22:29,512 for a kidney stone, 1995 01:22:29,512 --> 01:22:31,380 she asked me to weed out his e-mails 1996 01:22:31,380 --> 01:22:33,416 to save some computer space. 1997 01:22:33,416 --> 01:22:35,251 When I told her they just keep coming, 1998 01:22:35,251 --> 01:22:37,420 she decided to unsubscribe him 1999 01:22:37,420 --> 01:22:40,356 from some of the more extreme political e-mails. 2000 01:22:40,356 --> 01:22:42,058 But then she got the idea 2001 01:22:42,058 --> 01:22:44,727 of subscribing him to liberal and Democratic ones, 2002 01:22:44,727 --> 01:22:47,196 but much to her surprise, when he got back, 2003 01:22:47,196 --> 01:22:49,265 he started reading them. 2004 01:22:49,265 --> 01:22:50,566 What does he read now? 2005 01:22:50,566 --> 01:22:54,037 - "Truth out, RSN News." - Oh. 2006 01:22:54,037 --> 01:22:56,672 - You know, all that stuff. - Yeah. 2007 01:22:56,672 --> 01:22:58,741 I've been... I've been listening 2008 01:22:58,741 --> 01:23:03,446 to Rush Limbaugh for... quite a few years, 2009 01:23:03,446 --> 01:23:06,382 and of course, after I... For some reason or another, 2010 01:23:06,382 --> 01:23:08,351 I don't know what happened, 2011 01:23:08,351 --> 01:23:11,054 I just somehow got away from it, 2012 01:23:11,054 --> 01:23:12,488 and, then... 2013 01:23:12,488 --> 01:23:14,790 But before that, I was... 2014 01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:17,593 I was... I had it on all the time, 2015 01:23:17,593 --> 01:23:21,664 the political chatter, you know. 2016 01:23:21,664 --> 01:23:25,034 But, then I stopped. 2017 01:23:25,034 --> 01:23:28,704 He doesn't listen to Rush Limbaugh anymore 2018 01:23:28,704 --> 01:23:32,541 and he doesn't listen to Fox News. 2019 01:23:32,541 --> 01:23:34,310 Do you think your political views 2020 01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:37,580 -have changed? - Halfway between republican 2021 01:23:37,580 --> 01:23:39,315 and... and democrat. 2022 01:23:39,315 --> 01:23:40,683 Oh. 2023 01:23:40,683 --> 01:23:44,420 I'm not all democrat, I'm not all republican. 2024 01:23:44,420 --> 01:23:46,555 Do you believe in the minimum wage? 2025 01:23:46,555 --> 01:23:48,391 Minimum wage, yes. 2026 01:23:48,391 --> 01:23:50,693 Do you believe in personal freedoms? 2027 01:23:50,693 --> 01:23:53,362 Well, some people believe that gay people 2028 01:23:53,362 --> 01:23:55,164 don't have the right to get married, 2029 01:23:55,164 --> 01:23:57,466 and other people say, "I couldn't care less, 2030 01:23:57,466 --> 01:23:59,668 let them get married if they want to." 2031 01:23:59,668 --> 01:24:03,572 Well... I want to guess if they want to do that, 2032 01:24:03,572 --> 01:24:05,808 then go ahead and do it, yeah. 2033 01:24:05,808 --> 01:24:07,676 Yeah, that's the way I figure. 2034 01:24:07,676 --> 01:24:09,645 I spoke to uncle Frank the other day. 2035 01:24:09,645 --> 01:24:12,848 It's hard to explain, but just a... 2036 01:24:12,848 --> 01:24:14,617 A kindness in his voice. 2037 01:24:16,852 --> 01:24:18,521 Thank you. 2038 01:24:25,361 --> 01:24:26,762 Thank you. 2039 01:24:29,832 --> 01:24:31,634 - Oh, happy birthday. - Is that Gene? 2040 01:24:31,634 --> 01:24:34,303 - Yes. - I haven't seen you in so long. 2041 01:24:34,303 --> 01:24:36,139 - I know. How you been? - I didn't recognize you. 2042 01:24:41,344 --> 01:24:45,248 The other day, he surprised me. 2043 01:24:45,248 --> 01:24:48,351 President Obama was on, and he said to me, 2044 01:24:48,351 --> 01:24:52,521 "you know, I... I kinda like him." 2045 01:24:52,521 --> 01:24:54,457 And then later, he said again, 2046 01:24:54,457 --> 01:24:58,427 at a different time, "I like Obama." 2047 01:24:58,427 --> 01:25:00,763 I thought, "glory, be." 2048 01:25:00,763 --> 01:25:02,898 - He's a pretty good guy, Obama. - Yeah, he's, you know... 2049 01:25:02,898 --> 01:25:04,733 He... he's doing all right. 2050 01:25:04,733 --> 01:25:06,902 He's forgetting all that other stuff 2051 01:25:06,902 --> 01:25:08,337 that he learned, 2052 01:25:09,505 --> 01:25:13,409 and I guess, whatever... 2053 01:25:15,244 --> 01:25:17,280 Mom would shut down his computer at night, 2054 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:18,847 and she started subscribing him 2055 01:25:18,847 --> 01:25:21,750 to "truthout," and "alternet," 2056 01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:23,719 and "Reader Supported News". 2057 01:25:23,719 --> 01:25:25,554 Oh, and he would just read whatever ended up 2058 01:25:25,554 --> 01:25:27,823 in his inbox? - He just read everything. 2059 01:25:27,823 --> 01:25:30,693 He's an avid reader, he sits at that computer, 2060 01:25:30,693 --> 01:25:32,595 and he reads whatever's in front of him. 2061 01:25:32,595 --> 01:25:34,497 Well, that... That's very interesting, 2062 01:25:34,497 --> 01:25:37,633 and... and see? His thinking changed. 2063 01:25:37,633 --> 01:25:39,268 His policies have totally changed. 2064 01:25:39,268 --> 01:25:42,371 - He voted for Obama. - What? 2065 01:25:42,371 --> 01:25:44,540 He voted for Obama? 2066 01:25:44,540 --> 01:25:46,175 In these past couple years, 2067 01:25:46,175 --> 01:25:48,711 there's finally been peace in our house. 2068 01:25:48,711 --> 01:25:52,681 My dad is more content than I've ever seen him. 2069 01:25:52,681 --> 01:25:55,651 He's not angry, he's not argumentative, 2070 01:25:55,651 --> 01:25:58,687 and he's really fun the way he used to be. 2071 01:25:58,687 --> 01:26:00,423 And, we get along really well, 2072 01:26:00,423 --> 01:26:01,924 and I dote on him. 2073 01:26:01,924 --> 01:26:05,794 In fact, I get along with him better than I ever have. 2074 01:26:05,794 --> 01:26:08,697 And it's sort of a bittersweet pill, 2075 01:26:08,697 --> 01:26:12,935 because I know these are his last years, 2076 01:26:12,935 --> 01:26:16,472 but I'm happy that he's happy. 2077 01:26:16,472 --> 01:26:20,309 He's my pal, and I'm his. 2078 01:26:44,233 --> 01:26:47,403 So, that is the story of Jen and her father. 2079 01:26:47,403 --> 01:26:51,807 Her father had changed into a person none of them recognized or even liked. 2080 01:26:51,807 --> 01:26:53,309 A persistent wife, 2081 01:26:53,309 --> 01:26:55,644 who continued to challenge her husband. 2082 01:26:55,644 --> 01:26:57,946 It eventually made a difference. 2083 01:27:04,987 --> 01:27:07,490 It's a mixture or Polish and Ukrainian. 2084 01:27:07,490 --> 01:27:09,958 I mix them a lot. 2085 01:27:09,958 --> 01:27:12,595 You used to be very fanatical. 2086 01:27:12,595 --> 01:27:14,263 - Yes. - Yeah. 2087 01:27:14,263 --> 01:27:16,365 I listened to him for a long time, huh? 2088 01:27:16,365 --> 01:27:17,533 Yeah. 2089 01:27:17,533 --> 01:27:18,734 But you're not as... 2090 01:27:18,734 --> 01:27:21,404 You're not as fanatical as that anymore. 2091 01:27:21,404 --> 01:27:23,506 So, that's what the movie is about. 2092 01:27:23,506 --> 01:27:28,344 Is about how you used to be very fanatical, 2093 01:27:28,344 --> 01:27:30,913 and now you're much better. 2094 01:27:30,913 --> 01:27:34,317 I... I think I'd like to see that. 2095 01:27:38,754 --> 01:27:42,525 - Yeah, you'll... you'll see it, dad. - Yeah? 2096 01:27:49,832 --> 01:27:54,069 ♪ well, they learned about Santa a long time ago ♪ 2097 01:27:54,069 --> 01:28:00,008 ♪ little bunnies at Easter and pink unicorns ♪ 2098 01:28:00,008 --> 01:28:05,614 ♪ tiny tooth fairies have lost their appeal ♪ 2099 01:28:05,614 --> 01:28:09,552 ♪ but they still think Fox News is real ♪ 2100 01:28:09,552 --> 01:28:13,656 ♪ my parents think Fox News is real ♪ 2101 01:28:13,656 --> 01:28:15,391 ♪ I tried to explain 2102 01:28:15,391 --> 01:28:18,894 ♪ but they just won't sit still ♪ 2103 01:28:18,894 --> 01:28:21,096 ♪ all that jumping and shouting ♪ 2104 01:28:21,096 --> 01:28:24,800 ♪ has put them off-keel 2105 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:28,671 ♪ and my parents think Fox News is real ♪ 2106 01:28:28,671 --> 01:28:30,706 ♪ well, now, Bill's not your buddy ♪ 2107 01:28:30,706 --> 01:28:32,841 ♪ and the five aren't your friends ♪ 2108 01:28:32,841 --> 01:28:34,577 ♪ they're in it for money 2109 01:28:34,577 --> 01:28:38,647 ♪ they're just talking heads ♪ 2110 01:28:38,647 --> 01:28:44,019 ♪ once was a time when I was amused ♪ 2111 01:28:44,019 --> 01:28:48,023 ♪ but now someone needs to give them the news ♪ 2112 01:28:48,023 --> 01:28:52,395 ♪ my parents think Fox News is real ♪ 2113 01:28:52,395 --> 01:28:54,029 ♪ I tried to explain 2114 01:28:54,029 --> 01:28:57,466 ♪ but they just won't sit still ♪ 2115 01:28:57,466 --> 01:28:59,835 ♪ all that jumping and shouting ♪ 2116 01:28:59,835 --> 01:29:03,506 ♪ has put them off-keel 2117 01:29:03,506 --> 01:29:07,576 ♪ and my parents think Fox News is real ♪ 2118 01:29:07,576 --> 01:29:09,778 ♪ well, now, if I could change things ♪ 2119 01:29:09,778 --> 01:29:11,747 ♪ you know that I would 2120 01:29:11,747 --> 01:29:17,586 ♪ but banging your head on a rock can't be good ♪ 2121 01:29:17,586 --> 01:29:22,925 ♪ maybe just singing this song is a start ♪ 2122 01:29:22,925 --> 01:29:27,095 ♪ so, for now, I'll just say, "Bless their heart." ♪ 159628

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