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Once upon a time,
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there was an average
American family,
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living in an average
American town.
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After the family moved,
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the father left
his familiar carpool,
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and began a long,
solo commute to work,
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and, gradually,
he began to change.
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He looked the same
he dressed the same,
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but something
was very different.
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But this isn't the story
about just one man,
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it's the story
about a media phenomenon
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that changed a father,
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and divided a nation.
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Here's my dad with me
when I was a baby.
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He really loved me.
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This was in Arizona,
where I was born.
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He was goofy,
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like a lot
of other dads, I guess.
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My dad was
a really fun dad.
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All the kids in the
neighborhood really liked him
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because he was funny,
and told jokes,
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and would play with us.
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He was a really good dad.
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He loved animals.
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He could always be counted on
to help persuade my mom
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if we wanted another pet.
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For vacations, my dad
took us on camping trips.
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It was a lot of fun.
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My mom didn't
like it so much.
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She didn't really like
roughing it.
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But we all still
had a really great time.
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He came from
humble roots.
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He never had any
bad words about any race,
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people, or person.
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I remember this one time
when we all went to New York,
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and we got outside
port authority,
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and there was an
African-American, homeless man,
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and he asked my dad
for some money.
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My father gave him
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what was at that time
a decent amount of money,
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and called him "sir."
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That made such
an impression on me,
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and taught me
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you treat everybody
with respect.
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We weren't really
a political family.
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My dad was a non-political
Kennedy democrat.
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But then, when he started
listening to talk radio,
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I saw him change.
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A lot.
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You used to consider yourself
a democrat, right?
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Yeah, before I...
Before I knew anything,
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or had any sense,
I was stupid then.
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I would listen
to people with their bullshit,
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and they didn't know
what they were talking about.
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Until then, I was fat,
dumb, and happy.
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I think I first noticed
something different about him
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when I came down
to visit.
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I was working in New York
at the time.
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He picked me up
at the bus station,
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and was driving
me back to the house.
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On the ride home,
we passed a Hooters.
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He mentioned that
he was really pissed off
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that some feminazis
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did not want women with
their breasts hanging out
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to be working at Hooters.
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I said something like, "well, maybe
the feminists have a point."
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He was so mad,
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he threatened
to pull the car over
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and let me hitchhike home.
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I was very surprised,
because I was thinking,
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"I bet he never even walked
into a Hooters before."
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He became really
angry about stuff,
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stuff that I didn't know
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he ever even gave
a thought to,
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like, you know,
Hooters.
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Whether they are
in jail or not,
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they are procreating
their own kind.
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That's why we should
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go in there
and stop them
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before they destroy
our country.
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When we moved,
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and he had a very
long commute by car,
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he would listen
to the radio
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on the long drive.
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Then he started to change.
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The feminazis
began their quest
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to make women
more like men.
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Dress like us,
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acquire power like us,
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have careers like us,
all that...
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Rush Limbaugh’s
one of my heroes.
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I agree with him
in, in politics.
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And then
his Rush Limbaugh-loving buddy
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told him he could listen
to more talk-radio at night
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with a tiny,
portable radio and ear buds.
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But it would still
disturb my mother.
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So he decided to move
into the other bedroom,
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and then it got worse
after he discovered Fox News.
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His new beliefs
came first.
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It was almost like
he joined a cult,
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or had a new religion.
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Frank is the family pest.
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He has to force his political
views on all of us.
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I did it Frank's way.
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It was his way,
or the highway
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when it came to politics.
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I was not aware
that Frank
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had strong
political leanings,
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one way or the other.
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It was just pretty much
food and family
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was what he was
interested in.
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After e-mailing came in,
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yeah,
then you get all kinds.
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I would get
political e-mails too,
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but they were factual,
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bringing things
up-to-date,
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where dad's e-mails
were hateful against democrats.
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And he would
forward them to me
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and the children.
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And I asked him, please,
don't send these e-mails
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or I'll block you.
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He started getting fanatical.
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Oh, he would send
some nasty e-mail back,
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like, "f-you."
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Or "you guys are full
of S, blank, blank, T."
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I... I started
getting his e-mails
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when I got
394 e-mails.
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I originally thought
it was somebody else,
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other than Frank Senko
sending me things.
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And, in fact,
he didn't author any of these.
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They were just,
you know, recycled things
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that he received
from his other, uh...
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Right wing cronies.
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I was you know,
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wondering what
happened to Frank
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since the time I saw him.
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I'd always thought
that he was capable of, uh...
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Deeply thinking
about issues.
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But it was apparent
at that point that...
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It's not that
he wasn't capable of it,
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he wasn't interested in it.
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And that, to me,
was a dangerous signal.
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Brain has
not only been washed,
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as they say,
it has been dry-cleaned.
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So, what did happen to dad?
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Was he brainwashed?
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I didn't know.
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This went on for years.
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So I finally decided
to make a film
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to figure it out.
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Jennifer,
is this your book?
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Yes.
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He's my hero.
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Why is he your hero?
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Politically,
I agree with him.
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Beautifully.
I always agree with him.
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We knew better than to
discuss politics together.
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Because it would just end
in arguments and bitterness.
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I had a kickstarter campaign
to raise some money,
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and before I knew it, people
were coming out of the woodwork,
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contacting me from
all over the country
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telling me similar stories.
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And I thought,
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"wow, this is
a real phenomenon."
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They just drummed into her,
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what they wanted
her to hear.
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She's a completely
different person.
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My brother became
very fact-resistant.
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My reaction was,
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"who are you, and what have
you done with my stepfather?
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Disjointed existence.
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And he was
completely changed.
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He was...
He was bitter and angry.
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At one point,
he threatened to get a bus.
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Because
I was challenging...
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He became obsessed.
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And she had never
been like that.
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He was carrying
a small pistol.
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- She was not hateful.
- Shot twice...
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It broke my heart
to see my parents this way.
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Used to be very loving,
caring, patient...
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I don't really
know these people anymore.
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He just goes on these tirades
that never make sense.
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Fundamentally repulsive.
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I spoke with each one,
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and found we all had
one thing in common.
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Someone close to us
became enraged and unreachable
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after excessively
listening to,
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or watching
right-wing media.
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How did this happen?
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The great story here,
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for anybody
willing to find it,
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and write about it
and explain it,
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is this vast
ring-wing conspiracy.
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Decades ago,
I was a junior hippie.
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My big brother
was the real thing,
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with hair down
to his waist.
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I witnessed and felt
part of the social revolution
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happening at that time,
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and I believed our country
was going in a more...
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Open direction.
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Years later,
when Reagan came in,
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I could feel
the country was shifting
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to a more
hardened place.
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And that's around the time
my dad started to change.
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It wouldn't have
necessarily thought
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to go all the way
back to the sixties,
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but author Claire Conner,
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who wrote
"wrapped in the flag,"
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contacted me after
she saw my trailer.
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Her personal experience
with the John Birch society
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helped put into place
a major piece of the puzzle.
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The John Birch society
came out of the McCarthy era,
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and was built
on this concept
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that the communist menace
was right around the corner.
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Very quickly,
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the John Birch society
moved from "those bad guys,"
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over in the Soviet Union,
China, or in Cuba,
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to the idea
that we had those bad guys
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right in
our own government.
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In 1964, republican candidate
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Barry Goldwater,
had many Birch supporters.
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But this damaged him
because years earlier,
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word had leaked out that
their founder, Robert Welch,
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had written a secret book
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branding sitting
republican president
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and world war ii hero,
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Dwight D. Eisenhower
a communist.
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The Birchers were labeled
as, "nutty extremists."
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Goldwater and his platform
were hammered by Lyndon Johnson.
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The right wing
was declared dead.
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So, they started
to hit back.
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One of the most
powerful ways,
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was through creating
their own media.
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I first spotted David Brock
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in a documentary called
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"the hunting
of the president."
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He had been
a conservative operative
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involved in
the organized effort
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of trying to take
president Clinton down.
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But he came to regret it,
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and wrote about what he learned
from an insider's view.
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When I read his book,
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"the republican
noise machine,"
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I knew I had
to talk to him.
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It took me
a year and half to get him,
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but I finally got
to interview David Brock.
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One of the very first things
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that
the conservative movement did
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in trying to get control
of the debate in the country
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was to do that
through the media,
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and, uh,
they established
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a couple of different
organizations
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that market the notion
of liberal media bias
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to the public.
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And so, one of them
is called accuracy media
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by someone
named Reed Irvine,
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who had worked
in the Nixon administration.
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And basically,
the idea behind this group
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was to counter
their feeling
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that the media was opposed to
Nixon's policies in Vietnam.
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...more certain than ever
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that the bloody
experience of Vietnam,
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is to end in a stalemate.
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You could see how the campaign
to discredit the media
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would lay the groundwork for a vast
alternative media that would come later.
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There are a number
of reasons,
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one provides
him with the...
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One night,
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I was watching Bill Moyers,
on channel 13.
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And I learned about
the role of Roger Ailes.
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And, I went back
to the Nixon administration,
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and Roger Ailes in the...
Who is the chairman of Fox News,
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was in the Nixon
administration.
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He was Nixon's
television advisor.
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- Absolutely.
- -Then I found Gabriel Sherman.
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He was the guy to talk to
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about Roger Ailes,
for sure.
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Roger Ailes understood
that TV is about one thing.
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It's about emotion.
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And you need to communicate
to the audience,
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and hook into them
on an emotional level.
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And Richard Nixon,
who by all accounts
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was a very smart,
a brilliant man,
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who had command
of the issues,
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he couldn't connect
with the audience,
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you know, he came off
as stiff, as shifty-eyed.
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Famously, in the 1960
presidential debate
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against John Kennedy,
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he was sweating.
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It was a terrible
performance.
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Then he meets
Roger Ailes in 1968,
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at the time Roger ales
was a young producer
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the wunderkind of television
at the age of 26.
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And, so, Roger Ailes
coached Richard Nixon
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on how to communicate
those ideas
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to the average American
who is watching television
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every night
at dinner table.
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Richard Nixon, whose political
career almost blew up
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because of television,
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was able to win
the presidency.
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Because he mastered it.
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At the time,
in the late 1960s,
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TV had finally become
a mass medium.
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And yet,
there really weren't people
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who had decoded
the medium.
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Roger ales told Nixon
that to appeal to the audience,
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he needed to use short,
snappy, one-liners.
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That can stick
in the audience's mind.
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A great philosophy is
never one without defeat.
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It is always one
without fear.
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And, so, really,
Roger Ailes was a pioneer
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in the whole art
of the sound bite.
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He told Nixon
that America is dumb,
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so give them
something simple,
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boil it down,
and they'll get it.
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Ailes was so involved with
advising the administration,
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he even outlined
Nixon's role
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in the lighting of the white
house Christmas tree.
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But his designs for the GOP
went much deeper.
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Ailes was outlining
a way to avoid,
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"the censorship,
the priorities,
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"and the prejudices
of network news selectors
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and disseminators."
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Written in 1970,
this memo talks about
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how television had become
the most powerful news source
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because, "people are lazy,"
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and want their
thinking done for them.
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It became the blueprint
for Fox News.
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And although
it's authorship is unclear,
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Roger Ailes'
handwritten notes
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are seen throughout
the document.
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There are simple things
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that the American people
believe in.
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It's the reason John Wayne
is still the top...
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One of the top five
movie stars of all time.
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He's been dead for 40 years.
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Uh...
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But you always knew
about him.
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"Don't touch my woman,
don't steal my horse,
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and don't ever draw a gun
on me."
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- Otherwise...
-we can friends.
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We're gonna get along,
we're gonna get along fine.
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It offers ya
a little action.
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Roger Ailes was fired
from the White House
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for seeming like
he could go too rogue.
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Basically, he was caught
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talking behind
Richard Nixon's back
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to author Joe McGinniss.
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After that,
Ailes started working for TVN,
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a television news network
owned by the Coors family.
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Their goal was
to be like a tugboat
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to the queen Mary.
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They were just going
to be going along,
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and pushing the boat
a little further to the right,
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and a little further
to the right,
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and their goal is,
ultimately,
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to put the great ship over
as far right as they could.
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And Ailes was working
for them at the time,
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and he...
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He didn't know
much about news,
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I'm not even sure...
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I know that he knows much
about news now
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but he sure does
know television.
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He's as good at television
as anyone in the country,
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and he's
a great propagandist.
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By the way,
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the motto
they came up with,
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was "fair and balanced."
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My father
and my step-mother
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used to be very loving,
and caring, patient,
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very kind-hearted,
Christian-based
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pe... individuals,
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and we noticed that,
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they became more hostile
towards people
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that were not believing
the way that they did.
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Their conversation
became very hateful.
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The brilliance of Nixon
was to bend a politics
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that was based on,
uh... deference,
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to money and plutocracy,
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and frame it in terms
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of a kind of
cultural populism.
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The idea that
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the real snobs
are not the people
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who hire and fire,
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but the people who kind of
decide cultural trends.
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When Nixon was running
for president,
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he had a problem.
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In 1964,
Bill Porter lost,
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conservative
was a dirty word,
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everybody wanted to be
a liberal.
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Nixon comes along in '67,
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and he says,
we gotta get working people
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to vote for Nixon,
how do we do this?
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Before 1964 and '67,
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the anti-war movement felt like
a betrayal to many veterans,
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who saw it as unpatriotic.
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Nixon seized on this
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and was openly hostile
to the protestors.
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At the same time,
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woman were pushing
the boundaries
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of societal norms,
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which dictated
they stay at home,
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raise children,
and dress like ladies.
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Nixon came out
for traditional family values,
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thus capturing the vote
of the working men,
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who felt threatened
and didn't like what they saw
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as "radical feminism."
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In 1964, the civil rights act
was passed.
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Nixon capitalized
on both racist,
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and economic fears
of whites,
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and ran against
school busing,
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and for law and order.
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The Republicans could change
the party labels in the south
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by appealing to the racism
and the strong opposition
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to the civil rights
legislation
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and making that there stand.
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In the spring of 1970,
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after Nixon orders
the invasion of Cambodia,
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which was the...
The instigation
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for the same protest
at Kent State University
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that led to the deaths
of the four students.
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One of the protests
was at federal hall,
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in lower Manhattan.
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And right in the middle
of this anti-war rally,
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this almost, marauding army
of construction workers
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came marching in,
in their hard-hats,
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and, started beating
the protestors
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with their hard-hats.
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It was all captured on film.
It was on the evening news.
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Rather than, um, excoriating
these, basically, vigilantes,
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Richard Nixon invites
the head
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of construction trades
in New York,
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Peter Brennan,
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00:19:16,189 --> 00:19:18,458
and Peter Brennan presents
the commander in chief
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with a ceremonial hardhat
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so he's almost,
kind of, throwing his lot
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with the people
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who are beating
the protestors.
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He created
conservative populism.
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We're gonna
bring them together
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and... and,
have them vote
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on the basis
of their morality,
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against their self-interest.
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It's not vote
on their economics,
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but vote on
the moral issues.
447
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So that was
Nixon's contribution
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in pushing the country
a little further to the right.
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In the meantime,
my little brother and I
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had both got into
the hippie culture,
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even my dad kind of did.
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In the '60s,
you had the voters
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and rights act,
and the civil rights act.
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All this happened
in about a 10, 11-year period.
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You know, by '71,
you had cities burning
456
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because people were saying
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the change is not
happening fast enough.
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00:20:10,243 --> 00:20:13,413
Virtually every group
in America
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other than
wealthy white guys
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00:20:15,682 --> 00:20:16,883
was in open revolt,
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00:20:16,883 --> 00:20:18,718
and calling for change.
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Now, it wasn't tear down
the government change.
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I mean, this is being covered
by the CBS evening news
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and Walter Cronkite.
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I was so lucky
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to be introduced
to Jeff Cohen.
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Aside from being
a first-rate journalist
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and author,
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00:20:31,831 --> 00:20:35,302
he was a former commentator
at Fox News,
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and an all-around mensch.
471
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As a result of these movements
for social change,
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especially among
young people,
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there was a real backlash
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in the elite centers
of conservative power,
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and corporate power.
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And one of the symbols
of this backlash
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was a memo written
by the general council,
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whose name
was Lewis Powell.
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It was starting
to get really interesting.
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This confidential
Lewis Powell memo
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was from August 1971,
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just a year after
the Roger Ailes memo.
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And so, Lewis Powell
wrote a memo
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to the head of the U.S.
Chamber of Commerce,
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saying Americans
view businesses
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as the big, bad guys,
487
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and people like
Ralph Nader as the heroes.
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What he claimed is,
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that the whole country
is being taken over
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by the radical left.
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The government, the media,
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the universities, of course.
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He said basically
the following,
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"we have a problem.
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Our best and brightest
of our students
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do not want to become
conservative businessmen.
497
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We have to change this.
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We have to get
wealthy conservatives
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to put their money together
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to appoint professors
in major universities
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to teach our principles.
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We have to set-up,
and support organizations
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in major universities
to do this."
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They said, we can't trust
the universities.
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We have to set-up our own
research establishments
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which became
the think-tanks.
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We have to make sure
that they get published.
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Start journals,
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start publishing houses
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so they can publish
their books,
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and we have to buy media
so their ideas can get out.
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These were right wing
think tanks
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putting forward stuff
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that basically wasn't
academically sound,
515
00:22:15,868 --> 00:22:17,537
or intellectually sound,
516
00:22:17,537 --> 00:22:19,506
but had
good propaganda value.
517
00:22:19,506 --> 00:22:21,874
Powell,
after writing the memo,
518
00:22:21,874 --> 00:22:24,811
was appointed by Nixon
to be on the supreme court.
519
00:22:24,811 --> 00:22:26,145
So, they set up
this infrastructure,
520
00:22:26,145 --> 00:22:27,580
and then, ultimately,
521
00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:28,848
it led
to the right wing media
522
00:22:28,848 --> 00:22:29,849
itself.
523
00:22:29,849 --> 00:22:31,017
Where they were setting up
524
00:22:31,017 --> 00:22:33,786
their own channels
of communication
525
00:22:33,786 --> 00:22:37,857
and that was the big boom
in right wing talk radio
526
00:22:37,857 --> 00:22:39,826
nationally and across
the country
527
00:22:39,826 --> 00:22:40,993
in every locale.
528
00:22:40,993 --> 00:22:44,431
And ultimately,
Fox News channel.
529
00:22:44,431 --> 00:22:47,767
This Lewis Powell memo,
was extremely influential.
530
00:22:47,767 --> 00:22:49,802
It impacted
the realms of politics,
531
00:22:49,802 --> 00:22:54,741
judicial law,
media, and education.
532
00:22:54,741 --> 00:22:57,444
They have regular meetings
of various kinds.
533
00:22:57,444 --> 00:22:59,846
The best known are
the Grover Norquist
534
00:22:59,846 --> 00:23:02,148
Wednesday morning meetings.
535
00:23:02,148 --> 00:23:05,051
Now, this has been going on
for a good 20 years.
536
00:23:05,051 --> 00:23:07,153
Norquist was so proud
of his meetings,
537
00:23:07,153 --> 00:23:08,588
he invited my students
538
00:23:08,588 --> 00:23:10,056
to attend them
for three months.
539
00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:14,827
There were people there
from groups that represented
540
00:23:14,827 --> 00:23:18,097
the full gamut
of political issues
541
00:23:18,097 --> 00:23:19,198
on the right.
542
00:23:19,198 --> 00:23:21,901
From fur trade commissions,
543
00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:23,903
to Evangelicals.
544
00:23:23,903 --> 00:23:26,706
The real genius
of the meeting
545
00:23:26,706 --> 00:23:30,743
is that you can get
these dozens of people
546
00:23:30,743 --> 00:23:32,779
who might not
otherwise agree,
547
00:23:32,779 --> 00:23:36,783
into the same room,
every seven days.
548
00:23:36,783 --> 00:23:38,951
Talking,
and sort of ironing out
549
00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:40,587
their differences.
550
00:23:40,587 --> 00:23:44,824
As long as they're on board
with pro-life, pro-gun,
551
00:23:44,824 --> 00:23:48,060
and an anti-tax agenda,
you're with us.
552
00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:52,765
Writing up talking points
which then gets sent out
553
00:23:52,765 --> 00:23:55,968
to all the people
who are around the country,
554
00:23:55,968 --> 00:23:58,137
who are gonna be booked
on radio and TV,
555
00:23:58,137 --> 00:24:00,540
and by 5 o'clock tonight,
everybody saying that,
556
00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:01,808
the same thing.
557
00:24:01,808 --> 00:24:03,510
We'll take on
Obamacare regulations,
558
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:05,545
that threaten
the 40-hour workweek.
559
00:24:05,545 --> 00:24:07,146
Let's put on his desk,
things like
560
00:24:07,146 --> 00:24:08,915
restore
the 40-hour workweek.
561
00:24:08,915 --> 00:24:10,983
The loss
of the 40-hour workweek.
562
00:24:10,983 --> 00:24:13,520
Big, big mistake,
that ought to be restored.
563
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,954
We must take action,
564
00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:17,490
and restore the traditional
40-hour workweek.
565
00:24:17,490 --> 00:24:20,693
And by 10 o'clock,
it's on the daily show.
566
00:24:20,693 --> 00:24:23,596
Obamacare will destroy
all that we once held dear
567
00:24:23,596 --> 00:24:25,698
in this country,
by requiring health insurance
568
00:24:25,698 --> 00:24:27,199
from employers.
569
00:24:27,199 --> 00:24:30,036
For the 15% of Americans
who don't currently get that.
570
00:24:30,036 --> 00:24:32,238
The law only applies
to full-time workers,
571
00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:35,041
people who work 30,
or more hours a week.
572
00:24:35,041 --> 00:24:36,208
And guess what?
573
00:24:36,208 --> 00:24:37,944
A lot of employers
are saying,
574
00:24:37,944 --> 00:24:39,979
"we don't want to pay
for these healthcare benefits,
575
00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:41,614
so we're gonna move
full-time workers,
576
00:24:41,614 --> 00:24:43,583
to part-time workers."
577
00:24:43,583 --> 00:24:47,920
The Powell memorandum
was written in 1971,
578
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,659
and the Heritage Foundation
started in 1973.
579
00:24:52,659 --> 00:24:56,228
The effect of having
the conservative think tanks
580
00:24:56,228 --> 00:24:59,265
clearly,
outgunning and outnumbering
581
00:24:59,265 --> 00:25:01,868
and outfunding
the think tanks of the left,
582
00:25:01,868 --> 00:25:03,269
has been
much more effective
583
00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:06,539
in dominating
policy discussions.
584
00:25:09,141 --> 00:25:11,143
There was
a universal agreement,
585
00:25:11,143 --> 00:25:12,979
that the goal of journalism
586
00:25:12,979 --> 00:25:15,047
was objectivity,
587
00:25:15,047 --> 00:25:21,120
and to discern the truth
of conflicting claims.
588
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,056
The conservatives moved
the argument from objectivity
589
00:25:24,056 --> 00:25:25,992
to one of balance.
590
00:25:25,992 --> 00:25:30,830
Under the rubric of balance,
the conservatives do better.
591
00:25:30,830 --> 00:25:33,933
Because the way
the media now treats balance
592
00:25:33,933 --> 00:25:37,704
is there's 99%
of scientific consensus
593
00:25:37,704 --> 00:25:39,171
on global warming,
594
00:25:39,171 --> 00:25:42,241
and 1% of scientists
funded by the coal industry
595
00:25:42,241 --> 00:25:43,910
to say, "that's not true."
596
00:25:43,910 --> 00:25:46,713
But they're presented
in a balanced way,
597
00:25:46,713 --> 00:25:48,615
giving credit to both sides,
598
00:25:48,615 --> 00:25:50,717
and so, the conservatives
were able to infiltrate
599
00:25:50,717 --> 00:25:51,951
the op-ed pages
of the country
600
00:25:51,951 --> 00:25:53,285
on the same notion,
601
00:25:53,285 --> 00:25:54,987
that, "well you have
liberal columnists,
602
00:25:54,987 --> 00:25:56,623
so you need
conservative columnists."
603
00:25:56,623 --> 00:25:59,158
So, when Hilary Clinton
referred to the vast
604
00:25:59,158 --> 00:26:01,093
right wing conspiracy,
605
00:26:01,093 --> 00:26:03,930
I believe she had in mind
606
00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:07,366
the full gamut
of conservative organizations,
607
00:26:07,366 --> 00:26:11,003
from legal foundations
to media organizations,
608
00:26:11,003 --> 00:26:15,041
to think tanks,
to advocacy groups.
609
00:26:15,041 --> 00:26:16,976
And including
Wednesday meeting,
610
00:26:16,976 --> 00:26:19,311
as... as it's lynchpin.
611
00:26:19,311 --> 00:26:22,281
After that, people called
the Norquist meeting,
612
00:26:27,186 --> 00:26:29,355
the stage was now set
for Ronald Reagan
613
00:26:29,355 --> 00:26:30,790
to give
the greatest performance
614
00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:32,224
of his career,
615
00:26:32,224 --> 00:26:33,826
selling the American people
616
00:26:33,826 --> 00:26:36,829
on supply-side,
trickle-down economics.
617
00:26:36,829 --> 00:26:38,330
The economic ills we suffer
618
00:26:38,330 --> 00:26:41,801
have come upon us
over several decades.
619
00:26:41,801 --> 00:26:44,103
In this present crisis,
620
00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:47,840
government is not the solution
to our problem.
621
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,876
Government is the problem.
622
00:26:49,876 --> 00:26:51,077
You know,
we keep hearing about
623
00:26:51,077 --> 00:26:53,880
trickle-down economics,
and Reaganomics,
624
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,382
and how if you help
the people at the top,
625
00:26:56,382 --> 00:26:58,918
the wealth and income
will trickle down.
626
00:26:58,918 --> 00:27:02,421
And studs Terkel said, "the only thing
I've seen trickle down in the 1980's
627
00:27:02,421 --> 00:27:03,890
is meanness,"
628
00:27:03,890 --> 00:27:05,658
and what he meant was,
629
00:27:05,658 --> 00:27:07,059
you know,
the kind of country club,
630
00:27:07,059 --> 00:27:10,863
looking down on people
less fortunate than you
631
00:27:10,863 --> 00:27:13,666
had sort of gone, and...
Thanks to Limbaugh,
632
00:27:13,666 --> 00:27:15,702
and Bob Grant,
and people like that,
633
00:27:15,702 --> 00:27:17,837
sort of, like,
they were aiming
634
00:27:17,837 --> 00:27:21,774
at making white males,
middle-class males,
635
00:27:21,774 --> 00:27:24,310
to be as angry
and looking down on people
636
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:27,279
and being angry at...
At these social movements.
637
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:29,315
As... as anyone who used to be
in a country club
638
00:27:29,315 --> 00:27:30,750
in the 1950's,
639
00:27:30,750 --> 00:27:33,019
that was what
was disseminated,
640
00:27:33,019 --> 00:27:35,454
was this mean,
angry streak.
641
00:27:35,454 --> 00:27:38,324
That's what the 1980's did,
according to studs Terkel,
642
00:27:38,324 --> 00:27:40,392
you know,
the Reagan revolution
643
00:27:40,392 --> 00:27:43,129
- pulled people... was your dad ever a democrat?
- -Oh, yeah.
644
00:27:43,129 --> 00:27:44,931
Yeah, okay, right,
it pulled a lot
645
00:27:44,931 --> 00:27:48,100
of working-class democrats,
the Reagan revolution,
646
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:49,435
they started voting
republican.
647
00:27:49,435 --> 00:27:52,204
They were called,
Reagan democrats.
648
00:27:52,204 --> 00:27:54,340
There are two things
that made democrats willing
649
00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:55,842
to vote for Ronald Reagan.
650
00:27:55,842 --> 00:27:59,345
Reagan developed
this political vocabulary
651
00:27:59,345 --> 00:28:02,815
that made traditional,
conservative economic ideas
652
00:28:02,815 --> 00:28:04,784
sound really positive
and really good
653
00:28:04,784 --> 00:28:06,352
to ordinary people,
654
00:28:06,352 --> 00:28:10,056
and, what Ronald Reagan
was promising these voters,
655
00:28:10,056 --> 00:28:13,760
was a return
to a simpler time.
656
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:14,994
America,
they want to take us back
657
00:28:14,994 --> 00:28:16,796
to is, uh, mythic.
658
00:28:16,796 --> 00:28:18,831
So, you might want to say
the place they want to take us
659
00:28:18,831 --> 00:28:20,432
back to is like Brigadoon.
660
00:28:20,432 --> 00:28:24,003
You know, it's this kind of,
you know, shimmering vision
661
00:28:24,003 --> 00:28:26,038
that you know,
kind of exists
662
00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:29,108
in the space
of the imagination.
663
00:28:29,108 --> 00:28:32,478
They saw 1900
in America, as like,
664
00:28:32,478 --> 00:28:35,347
the apex of when
we were great as a nation.
665
00:28:35,347 --> 00:28:37,249
1900.
666
00:28:37,249 --> 00:28:39,752
Before the income tax,
667
00:28:39,752 --> 00:28:41,821
before the federal reserve,
668
00:28:41,821 --> 00:28:45,424
before
any progressive legislation
669
00:28:45,424 --> 00:28:47,794
was considered or passed.
670
00:28:47,794 --> 00:28:49,962
Before child labor laws,
671
00:28:49,962 --> 00:28:52,298
before women
had any rights,
672
00:28:52,298 --> 00:28:54,767
before women even had
the right to vote.
673
00:28:54,767 --> 00:28:58,037
Robert Welch, who was the founder
of the John Birch society,
674
00:28:58,037 --> 00:29:00,439
talked a lot about 1900,
675
00:29:00,439 --> 00:29:02,975
as this glorious time
in American history.
676
00:29:02,975 --> 00:29:04,310
And he said,
677
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:07,814
he said, "there were
pockets of poverty,
678
00:29:07,814 --> 00:29:11,417
but it was a healthy
kind of poverty.
679
00:29:11,417 --> 00:29:14,887
Poverty free
from government interference.
680
00:29:14,887 --> 00:29:20,526
Where every man understood
that relief from dire want
681
00:29:20,526 --> 00:29:23,996
was entirely
his own responsibility,
682
00:29:23,996 --> 00:29:30,336
thus the blessings of Liberty
outweighed the poverty."
683
00:29:33,305 --> 00:29:36,042
When during
the great depression,
684
00:29:36,042 --> 00:29:39,278
when people
would come to our house,
685
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,914
and go around
to the backdoor,
686
00:29:41,914 --> 00:29:45,117
and ask my mother
if they could have a meal.
687
00:29:45,117 --> 00:29:47,286
And she'd cook them
bacon and eggs or something,
688
00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:49,188
they ate it
out in the back.
689
00:29:49,188 --> 00:29:52,391
So, that's how people
had to survive,
690
00:29:52,391 --> 00:29:54,393
maybe he wants
to go back to that,
691
00:29:54,393 --> 00:29:55,561
I don't know.
692
00:29:55,561 --> 00:29:59,398
We had like,
a one room school.
693
00:29:59,398 --> 00:30:01,333
You know, and, we would...
694
00:30:01,333 --> 00:30:04,403
We'd walk to school
in our bare feet, you know.
695
00:30:04,403 --> 00:30:08,274
And that's how we lived.
696
00:30:08,274 --> 00:30:09,541
Looking back,
697
00:30:09,541 --> 00:30:13,079
I know that
we lived in poverty,
698
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:15,214
or pretty close
to it all the time.
699
00:30:15,214 --> 00:30:16,548
But we didn't know
that at the time,
700
00:30:16,548 --> 00:30:18,284
because the government
didn't come around
701
00:30:18,284 --> 00:30:19,385
and tell us we were poor.
702
00:30:20,887 --> 00:30:22,922
One
of the brilliant innovations
703
00:30:22,922 --> 00:30:26,025
was a new theory
about how taxation worked,
704
00:30:26,025 --> 00:30:27,426
about how
the economy worked.
705
00:30:27,426 --> 00:30:29,128
It used to be
the conservatives,
706
00:30:29,128 --> 00:30:30,296
that republications,
707
00:30:30,296 --> 00:30:32,164
we all about
balanced budgets.
708
00:30:32,164 --> 00:30:33,900
They're all about
kind of making the people
709
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:35,101
eat their spinach.
710
00:30:35,101 --> 00:30:36,435
But they came up
with this new theory
711
00:30:36,435 --> 00:30:38,570
called
supply-side economics.
712
00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:40,139
And supply-side
basically means,
713
00:30:40,139 --> 00:30:42,208
you give money to...
To business,
714
00:30:42,208 --> 00:30:46,145
and that way they'll basically
produce more plenty,
715
00:30:46,145 --> 00:30:49,115
that will trickle down
to ordinary people.
716
00:30:49,115 --> 00:30:52,518
And that was what George Bush
in 1980, referred to as
717
00:30:52,518 --> 00:30:54,086
"voodoo economics,"
718
00:30:54,086 --> 00:30:55,621
because it almost did
sound like magic.
719
00:30:55,621 --> 00:30:57,023
It was kind of like
720
00:30:57,023 --> 00:30:59,291
he was promising you
the candy store.
721
00:30:59,291 --> 00:31:02,428
He said he could lower
everybody's taxes,
722
00:31:02,428 --> 00:31:05,531
and by doing so,
everyone would benefit.
723
00:31:05,531 --> 00:31:08,200
It was like the miracle
of the loaves and fishes.
724
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,401
In actual fact,
725
00:31:09,401 --> 00:31:11,337
how it ended up
turning out was,
726
00:31:11,337 --> 00:31:15,241
you know, hurting
the very working class voters,
727
00:31:15,241 --> 00:31:18,978
who trusted Ronald Reagan
with their economic future.
728
00:31:18,978 --> 00:31:21,647
Of course,
inequality just skyrocketed.
729
00:31:21,647 --> 00:31:23,282
The rich got richer,
730
00:31:23,282 --> 00:31:27,086
and ordinary peoples' wages
ended up stagnate.
731
00:31:27,086 --> 00:31:30,589
And my dad thought Reagan
was the best guy in the world.
732
00:31:30,589 --> 00:31:32,191
And he was a democrat.
733
00:31:32,191 --> 00:31:37,529
And somewhere in this
Reagan-Bush change,
734
00:31:37,529 --> 00:31:39,298
he told me, "well,
I'm a republican now.
735
00:31:39,298 --> 00:31:43,002
I realize how wrong I was
all those years ago,"
736
00:31:43,002 --> 00:31:44,336
and the only thing
737
00:31:44,336 --> 00:31:46,338
I could attribute
the change to
738
00:31:46,338 --> 00:31:50,009
was his change in taste
739
00:31:50,009 --> 00:31:53,980
about the news stories
he watched.
740
00:31:53,980 --> 00:31:59,251
We used to watch Cronkite,
and Brinkley and Brokaw,
741
00:31:59,251 --> 00:32:03,022
and what I consider
sort of middle America,
742
00:32:03,022 --> 00:32:05,191
middle ground views.
743
00:32:05,191 --> 00:32:10,696
And... later on,
all he watched was Fox.
744
00:32:16,268 --> 00:32:18,137
And the fairness doctrine
actually said
745
00:32:18,137 --> 00:32:21,040
that you have to program
in the public interest.
746
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,541
And so,
as a result of that,
747
00:32:22,541 --> 00:32:24,476
radio
and television stations,
748
00:32:24,476 --> 00:32:26,012
had real news.
749
00:32:26,012 --> 00:32:27,279
It operated for 50 years.
750
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:30,382
In 1949, it was actually
voted in as law
751
00:32:30,382 --> 00:32:31,550
by the U.S. Congress.
752
00:32:31,550 --> 00:32:32,985
It said,
753
00:32:32,985 --> 00:32:35,054
"if you are watching,
or listening
754
00:32:35,054 --> 00:32:37,356
to your local television,
or radio station,
755
00:32:37,356 --> 00:32:39,025
and there are
points of view
756
00:32:39,025 --> 00:32:41,160
that are not being included
in the discussion,
757
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,728
and you wish for them
to be in there,
758
00:32:42,728 --> 00:32:44,330
go complain
to your station.
759
00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:46,999
If they don't give
you satisfaction,
760
00:32:46,999 --> 00:32:49,401
then send a complaint
to the FCC."
761
00:32:49,401 --> 00:32:51,670
It didn't guarantee
equal time,
762
00:32:51,670 --> 00:32:54,540
it reminded broadcasters
that they had a public trust,
763
00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:55,774
they should
include some views
764
00:32:55,774 --> 00:32:57,276
that might go against
their own,
765
00:32:57,276 --> 00:32:59,378
or that might
not be popular,
766
00:32:59,378 --> 00:33:01,247
or favorable to them.
767
00:33:01,247 --> 00:33:02,481
It was dropped
in the 80's,
768
00:33:02,481 --> 00:33:04,216
by
The Reagan administration.
769
00:33:04,216 --> 00:33:06,252
The repeal
of the fairness doctrine,
770
00:33:06,252 --> 00:33:09,288
ended up resulting in
an explosion of talk radio.
771
00:33:09,288 --> 00:33:10,489
In 1987,
772
00:33:10,489 --> 00:33:12,024
I couldn't believe
what I heard.
773
00:33:12,024 --> 00:33:14,360
I'd hear overt,
gutter racism.
774
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,763
And this was coming from
different talk show hosts.
775
00:33:17,763 --> 00:33:19,798
But the main one
was Bob Grant.
776
00:33:19,798 --> 00:33:23,369
I'd hear black people
referred to as, "savages."
777
00:33:23,369 --> 00:33:24,670
The savage mind,
778
00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:27,506
the primitive,
primordial mentality,
779
00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:29,475
of being immature
780
00:33:29,475 --> 00:33:32,344
anything they think
they can get away with,
781
00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:34,513
they will press and press
and press,
782
00:33:34,513 --> 00:33:36,582
which, of course,
is what they've been doing
783
00:33:36,582 --> 00:33:39,418
all over
the United States of America.
784
00:33:39,418 --> 00:33:42,554
- Not in just...
- The allure of the Limbaughs,
785
00:33:42,554 --> 00:33:44,656
and the grants,
786
00:33:44,656 --> 00:33:48,460
is that they tap into
a kind of resentment,
787
00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:49,661
a kind of insecurity,
788
00:33:49,661 --> 00:33:51,830
on the part of
mostly white men,
789
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:53,665
and the large part
middle-aged,
790
00:33:53,665 --> 00:33:58,537
and aging white men,
a kind of injured pride
791
00:33:58,537 --> 00:34:00,672
that the world
is passing them by.
792
00:34:00,672 --> 00:34:02,508
It's... it's typical
of demagoguery
793
00:34:02,508 --> 00:34:04,376
to say that your problems
794
00:34:04,376 --> 00:34:07,579
really aren't problems
caused by you,
795
00:34:07,579 --> 00:34:09,115
they're caused by
these other people
796
00:34:09,115 --> 00:34:11,383
that aren't like us.
797
00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:14,186
He found out that I was dating
somebody who wasn't white,
798
00:34:14,186 --> 00:34:16,488
and just was like,
799
00:34:16,488 --> 00:34:17,723
"I can't...
You just don't agree
800
00:34:17,723 --> 00:34:19,658
with any of my values."
801
00:34:19,658 --> 00:34:21,693
You don't believe
any of the conservative things
802
00:34:21,693 --> 00:34:22,694
that I do."
803
00:34:22,694 --> 00:34:24,496
And, "you're so far left,
804
00:34:24,496 --> 00:34:25,764
that you're willing
to date people
805
00:34:25,764 --> 00:34:27,166
outside of your race.
806
00:34:27,166 --> 00:34:28,767
And, I just...
I love you,
807
00:34:28,767 --> 00:34:32,638
but I just can't
talk to you ever again."
808
00:34:32,638 --> 00:34:34,440
Talk radio
was always in the hands
809
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,210
of right wing
backlash artists.
810
00:34:38,210 --> 00:34:39,878
A bunch of white guys
on the right,
811
00:34:39,878 --> 00:34:41,780
railing against
the women's movement,
812
00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:43,315
the civil rights movement.
813
00:34:43,315 --> 00:34:44,716
So, that's the beginning
of talk radio
814
00:34:44,716 --> 00:34:46,318
that people forget about.
815
00:34:46,318 --> 00:34:48,354
It was all local then.
There was no national.
816
00:34:48,354 --> 00:34:51,257
It never went national
until Rush Limbaugh
817
00:34:51,257 --> 00:34:55,361
you know really made it
national beginning in 1988.
818
00:34:55,361 --> 00:34:57,496
I learned that Fox,
god love them,
819
00:34:57,496 --> 00:35:01,267
is televising this speech
on the Fox News channel.
820
00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:03,435
- Which means,
ladies and gentlemen,
821
00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:07,206
- this is my first ever
address to the nation.
822
00:35:07,206 --> 00:35:09,875
Ah, Rush Limbaugh,
my dad's hero.
823
00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:12,244
I heard him say it
so many times.
824
00:35:12,244 --> 00:35:13,679
The way my dad
spoke of Rush
825
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:15,881
is like he found
a new religion.
826
00:35:15,881 --> 00:35:17,183
Quoting him constantly
827
00:35:17,183 --> 00:35:19,318
as if he were
the word of god.
828
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:36,435
Talk radio
was so influential,
829
00:35:36,435 --> 00:35:38,637
and Rush Limbaugh
is especially good.
830
00:35:38,637 --> 00:35:40,606
That me,
a walking encyclopedia,
831
00:35:40,606 --> 00:35:41,940
that basically
could debunk things
832
00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:43,409
on the spot.
833
00:35:43,409 --> 00:35:45,577
In many cases
with talk radio hosts,
834
00:35:45,577 --> 00:35:48,247
Limbaugh sounded
so confident,
835
00:35:48,247 --> 00:35:50,416
that they actually
sent me back to the books.
836
00:35:50,416 --> 00:35:52,618
You know,
I would be right, in the end,
837
00:35:52,618 --> 00:35:54,486
but I wasn't sure
I was right
838
00:35:54,486 --> 00:35:56,955
because of
the absolute confidence
839
00:35:56,955 --> 00:35:58,490
that this guy exudes.
840
00:35:58,490 --> 00:35:59,425
And it's very affecting.
841
00:36:02,194 --> 00:36:03,662
I'll never forget,
842
00:36:03,662 --> 00:36:05,864
my dad sent me
something in the mail.
843
00:36:05,864 --> 00:36:09,235
He had put
a PETA label on it,
844
00:36:09,235 --> 00:36:12,671
and he had taken
a black magic marker,
845
00:36:12,671 --> 00:36:16,575
and kept...
And rubbed out "peta."
846
00:36:16,575 --> 00:36:18,377
Like just scribbled it,
847
00:36:18,377 --> 00:36:20,246
and scribbled it,
and scribbled it,
848
00:36:20,246 --> 00:36:22,714
until he almost ruined
the envelope,
849
00:36:22,714 --> 00:36:24,516
and the PETA thing was out.
850
00:36:24,516 --> 00:36:25,617
It was just crazy.
851
00:36:25,617 --> 00:36:26,752
He was an animal lover,
852
00:36:26,752 --> 00:36:28,720
he always was
an animal lover.
853
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:32,324
It just filled up
all of him.
854
00:36:32,324 --> 00:36:34,993
It became all
of who he was.
855
00:36:34,993 --> 00:36:38,730
Like, really,
as if he were a cult member.
856
00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:41,433
And that's why I use
the term "brainwashing."
857
00:36:42,768 --> 00:36:44,236
And he said to me,
858
00:36:44,236 --> 00:36:45,871
"I don't care
what your facts are.
859
00:36:45,871 --> 00:36:48,807
My beliefs matter more,
and I believe Rush."
860
00:36:48,807 --> 00:36:50,542
Limbaugh.
Every day when he works.
861
00:36:50,542 --> 00:36:53,512
When I became involved
with Occupy Wall Street,
862
00:36:53,512 --> 00:36:55,647
my parents were furious,
863
00:36:55,647 --> 00:36:57,649
and when my parents
heard bits and pieces
864
00:36:57,649 --> 00:37:00,252
about my involvement,
they cut me off completely,
865
00:37:00,252 --> 00:37:01,953
didn't speak to me.
866
00:37:01,953 --> 00:37:04,890
My dad has been a trucker
for the last 40 years.
867
00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:06,392
Now, who does he listen to?
868
00:37:06,392 --> 00:37:08,360
Rush Limbaugh.
869
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,661
And, he's...
870
00:37:09,661 --> 00:37:12,498
He's pretty much
become unbearable.
871
00:37:12,498 --> 00:37:14,766
President Obama
had just come into office
872
00:37:14,766 --> 00:37:16,034
the first time.
873
00:37:16,034 --> 00:37:18,570
The economy
was in the toilet,
874
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:22,741
so, I felt it was safe
to discuss the economy
875
00:37:22,741 --> 00:37:25,577
because, clearly,
president Obama
876
00:37:25,577 --> 00:37:27,446
couldn't have had
anything to do with it,
877
00:37:27,446 --> 00:37:28,514
it was too soon.
878
00:37:28,514 --> 00:37:31,617
And my uncle
got very upset.
879
00:37:31,617 --> 00:37:34,386
He says,
"you get out of my house.
880
00:37:34,386 --> 00:37:35,487
You can't stay here,
881
00:37:35,487 --> 00:37:37,756
and talk to me
about that guy."
882
00:37:37,756 --> 00:37:39,858
He walked towards me,
883
00:37:39,858 --> 00:37:41,993
and was carrying
a small pistol.
884
00:37:41,993 --> 00:37:44,430
And I saw the gun
pointing at me,
885
00:37:44,430 --> 00:37:46,532
and he dropped
his hand to the floor...
886
00:37:46,532 --> 00:37:50,936
- and shot twice
into the ground.
887
00:37:50,936 --> 00:37:52,838
Most people
don't think about this,
888
00:37:52,838 --> 00:37:54,506
but talk radio
is something...
889
00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:56,007
Unlike a lot
of other media,
890
00:37:56,007 --> 00:37:57,309
that's done alone.
891
00:37:57,309 --> 00:37:58,910
People listen to it alone.
892
00:37:58,910 --> 00:38:01,480
And they're listening
to this one other person.
893
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,981
And there's sort of
a personal thing there
894
00:38:02,981 --> 00:38:04,683
and a connection.
895
00:38:04,683 --> 00:38:06,452
People who,
on the radio and TV,
896
00:38:06,452 --> 00:38:07,853
are there
for one reason only,
897
00:38:07,853 --> 00:38:09,955
and that's to make you mad.
898
00:38:09,955 --> 00:38:12,491
And the formula
for making you,
899
00:38:12,491 --> 00:38:13,725
the viewer,
or the listener mad,
900
00:38:13,725 --> 00:38:14,993
hasn't changed a bit
901
00:38:14,993 --> 00:38:17,463
yet people keep
falling for it.
902
00:38:17,463 --> 00:38:20,599
If you embellish the opinion
with confidence and cockiness,
903
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:22,768
then you're getting
into generating hatred.
904
00:38:22,768 --> 00:38:24,069
The law
of averages indicates
905
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:25,704
that half the people
who listen to you
906
00:38:25,704 --> 00:38:27,906
are not gonna like you,
you still gotta find a way
907
00:38:27,906 --> 00:38:29,074
to make those
who don't like you
908
00:38:29,074 --> 00:38:30,742
enjoy listening
to your program.
909
00:38:30,742 --> 00:38:31,943
A lot of people say,
910
00:38:31,943 --> 00:38:34,012
"you really mean
the stuff you say?"
911
00:38:34,012 --> 00:38:35,714
I don't know.
That's for you to figure out.
912
00:38:35,714 --> 00:38:37,716
Excuse me?
913
00:38:37,716 --> 00:38:40,686
A lot of people say, "do you
really mean the stuff you say?"
914
00:38:40,686 --> 00:38:42,421
I don't know.
That's for you to figure out.
915
00:38:42,421 --> 00:38:44,890
Limbaugh was telling people
for years,
916
00:38:44,890 --> 00:38:46,892
"you're right
to be prejudice.
917
00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:48,827
You're right to be angry."
918
00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:50,095
Let's listen to what
the feminazis
919
00:38:50,095 --> 00:38:51,697
are telling you now.
920
00:38:51,697 --> 00:38:53,665
Or these
environmental wackos,
921
00:38:53,665 --> 00:38:56,502
who say that cigarette's
second-hand smoke.
922
00:38:56,502 --> 00:38:58,537
You know, and then
he'll make up some study.
923
00:38:58,537 --> 00:39:00,372
One day, years ago,
924
00:39:00,372 --> 00:39:03,675
when my dad was at the height
of his Limbaugh lunch days,
925
00:39:03,675 --> 00:39:05,577
I went down
to visit my parents
926
00:39:05,577 --> 00:39:07,145
and my mom and dad and I
927
00:39:07,145 --> 00:39:08,680
went
to our favorite restaurant,
928
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,482
old time tavern.
929
00:39:10,482 --> 00:39:12,884
As we were walking
towards the restaurant door,
930
00:39:12,884 --> 00:39:14,420
there was a bench outside
931
00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:17,122
where several people
were seated smoking.
932
00:39:17,122 --> 00:39:18,457
As we passed them,
933
00:39:18,457 --> 00:39:20,792
my dad stopped
to talk to them.
934
00:39:20,792 --> 00:39:23,629
He inhaled the smoke,
and said,
935
00:39:23,629 --> 00:39:26,765
"mm! I love the smell
of cigarette smoke,
936
00:39:26,765 --> 00:39:29,835
it reminds me of the time
I used to smoke."
937
00:39:29,835 --> 00:39:31,703
I was stunned,
938
00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:35,707
because the only thing
I ever remember my dad smoking
939
00:39:35,707 --> 00:39:37,676
was the occasional pipe.
940
00:39:37,676 --> 00:39:39,478
He also hated
wearing seatbelts,
941
00:39:39,478 --> 00:39:41,913
and would absolutely
refuse to wear one,
942
00:39:41,913 --> 00:39:43,782
even after
he got a ticket.
943
00:39:43,782 --> 00:39:46,818
Something told me it had to do
with Rush Limbaugh.
944
00:39:46,818 --> 00:39:48,520
He wasn't
just wrong factually,
945
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,489
he would take
like reality upside down.
946
00:39:50,489 --> 00:39:51,657
He became what we call,
947
00:39:51,657 --> 00:39:53,992
"a champion of the overdog."
948
00:39:53,992 --> 00:39:55,961
Any powerful group,
949
00:39:55,961 --> 00:39:58,997
that was being criticized
by scientists,
950
00:39:58,997 --> 00:40:03,068
or medical people,
was the victim.
951
00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:06,104
So, the tobacco industry
was a victim.
952
00:40:06,104 --> 00:40:08,173
And that's where he came up
with his concoction
953
00:40:08,173 --> 00:40:09,775
that, you know,
no one's ever proved
954
00:40:09,775 --> 00:40:11,743
that nicotine is addictive,
955
00:40:11,743 --> 00:40:13,912
or is linked
to these horrible diseases.
956
00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:16,882
There's no science involved.
957
00:40:16,882 --> 00:40:18,984
And, you know,
cigarette second-hand smoke
958
00:40:18,984 --> 00:40:21,953
making you go outside
of the restaurant to smoke.
959
00:40:21,953 --> 00:40:24,823
It's not true.
Here's the real facts.
960
00:40:24,823 --> 00:40:26,792
And then he comes up
with his false facts.
961
00:40:26,792 --> 00:40:28,126
You don't like seatbelts?
962
00:40:28,126 --> 00:40:30,696
It's Ralph Nader,
he made up this stuff.
963
00:40:30,696 --> 00:40:33,799
Ladies and gentlemen,
the top 10 Limbaugh lies.
964
00:41:39,865 --> 00:41:41,099
How can all these people
965
00:41:41,099 --> 00:41:43,068
believe such
outlandish statements?
966
00:41:43,068 --> 00:41:44,703
But it wasn't
just like my dad
967
00:41:44,703 --> 00:41:46,137
or Barbara's brother
968
00:41:46,137 --> 00:41:47,939
or Marie's uncle,
who believe Rush Limbaugh
969
00:41:47,939 --> 00:41:49,608
that troubled me.
970
00:41:49,608 --> 00:41:50,776
Clarence Thomas,
971
00:41:50,776 --> 00:41:52,978
one of our
supreme court justices,
972
00:41:52,978 --> 00:41:55,146
who officiated
at the third wedding
973
00:41:55,146 --> 00:41:56,682
of Rush Limbaugh.
974
00:41:56,682 --> 00:41:58,684
I think it was
in Clarence Thomas' house.
975
00:41:58,684 --> 00:42:00,318
And, Clarence Thomas,
you know,
976
00:42:00,318 --> 00:42:01,853
will tell anyone
that asks him,
977
00:42:01,853 --> 00:42:03,321
"no, I don't listen
to mainstream media.
978
00:42:03,321 --> 00:42:05,123
I don't trust it.
979
00:42:05,123 --> 00:42:08,026
But he taped
Rush Limbaugh’s radio show
980
00:42:08,026 --> 00:42:09,327
all three hours,
981
00:42:09,327 --> 00:42:11,262
and he tried
to always listen to that.
982
00:42:11,262 --> 00:42:13,765
Now, imagine this here
supreme court justice,
983
00:42:13,765 --> 00:42:16,602
deciding on things
like war and peace,
984
00:42:16,602 --> 00:42:18,770
and civil liberties,
and gay marriage
985
00:42:18,770 --> 00:42:22,140
and your window
to the real news world
986
00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:24,309
is Rush Limbaugh’s
three-hour monologue.
987
00:42:24,309 --> 00:42:26,778
That's pretty damn scary.
988
00:42:29,781 --> 00:42:33,351
There was a sense
of seamless argumentation
989
00:42:33,351 --> 00:42:36,822
that this guy is giving me
the complete explanation.
990
00:42:36,822 --> 00:42:40,859
And he's got facts
and studies to back it up.
991
00:42:40,859 --> 00:42:44,630
And I'm listening to him
three and a half hours a day.
992
00:42:44,630 --> 00:42:47,633
When he put out
our study in 1994,
993
00:42:47,633 --> 00:42:50,736
debunking dozens
of these lies
994
00:42:50,736 --> 00:42:52,638
or distortions
or exaggerations
995
00:42:52,638 --> 00:42:53,872
from Rush Limbaugh,
996
00:42:53,872 --> 00:42:58,744
we encountered
thousands of dittoheads.
997
00:42:58,744 --> 00:43:02,748
Now, the cult-like nature
is, you know, is obvious,
998
00:43:02,748 --> 00:43:06,785
when a guy is preaching
for hours at a time,
999
00:43:06,785 --> 00:43:09,621
and people come on,
instead of saying "amen,"
1000
00:43:09,621 --> 00:43:10,956
but just like
saying, "amen,"
1001
00:43:10,956 --> 00:43:11,990
they say, "dittos, Rush.
1002
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:13,324
Mega dittos, Rush."
1003
00:43:13,324 --> 00:43:15,360
That's their contribution.
1004
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,062
It's like,
here's the preacher,
1005
00:43:17,062 --> 00:43:18,730
and I'm part of the cult,
1006
00:43:18,730 --> 00:43:21,066
the congregation,
and I'm just amening,
1007
00:43:21,066 --> 00:43:24,069
with this phrase, "dittos,"
or "mega dittos, Rush."
1008
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:26,071
"You're the greatest, Rush."
1009
00:43:26,071 --> 00:43:28,740
- Do they actually say that, themselves?
- Oh, they go on the air.
1010
00:43:28,740 --> 00:43:31,076
And they say,
"mega dittos, Rush."
1011
00:43:31,076 --> 00:43:32,844
Oh, that's why
they call them "dittoheads."
1012
00:43:32,844 --> 00:43:35,013
Yes. In other words,
1013
00:43:35,013 --> 00:43:37,148
everything you say,
I'm ditto-ing.
1014
00:43:37,148 --> 00:43:39,117
Hey, Rush, how are you?
Mega dittos.
1015
00:43:39,117 --> 00:43:40,752
Thank you,
and mega dittos, Rush.
1016
00:43:40,752 --> 00:43:42,688
Oh, mega
and constitutionous dittos
1017
00:43:42,688 --> 00:43:44,155
from Southern California,
Rush.
1018
00:43:44,155 --> 00:43:46,191
So, I watched 30 minutes
of Rush Limbaugh.
1019
00:43:46,191 --> 00:43:47,325
I... I didn't like him
at first,
1020
00:43:47,325 --> 00:43:48,727
cause he was kind of
1021
00:43:48,727 --> 00:43:50,195
just being critical
of Clinton.
1022
00:43:50,195 --> 00:43:52,330
Well, I had about
an hour and 15-minute commute
1023
00:43:52,330 --> 00:43:53,431
to a factory,
1024
00:43:53,431 --> 00:43:55,233
two towns over
where I worked.
1025
00:43:55,233 --> 00:43:56,735
And I drove,
I worked second shift,
1026
00:43:56,735 --> 00:43:59,104
and I drove midday
to that factory,
1027
00:43:59,104 --> 00:44:00,806
and I'd catch
the last hour of his show.
1028
00:44:00,806 --> 00:44:04,009
And I... I just
immersed myself.
1029
00:44:04,009 --> 00:44:07,345
Boom. I spoke down
straight republican to you.
1030
00:44:07,345 --> 00:44:10,181
And I had been convinced
that Clinton was more corrupt
1031
00:44:10,181 --> 00:44:11,683
than Nixon
ever could have been.
1032
00:44:11,683 --> 00:44:13,852
Clinton was part
of this global initiative,
1033
00:44:13,852 --> 00:44:16,154
to get the U.N.
To control our country.
1034
00:44:16,154 --> 00:44:18,156
Clinton was gonna
bring in U.N. Troops
1035
00:44:18,156 --> 00:44:19,691
to take our guns,
1036
00:44:19,691 --> 00:44:22,794
and put
in concentration camps.
1037
00:44:22,794 --> 00:44:25,997
And then,
Bill Clinton gets elected.
1038
00:44:27,432 --> 00:44:30,201
There's this backlash
against Clinton,
1039
00:44:30,201 --> 00:44:32,938
spearheaded
by Rush Limbaugh.
1040
00:44:32,938 --> 00:44:35,073
And Limbaugh becomes
almost the leader
1041
00:44:35,073 --> 00:44:36,307
of the opposition.
1042
00:44:36,307 --> 00:44:37,843
Several times
he said on the air,
1043
00:44:37,843 --> 00:44:41,179
that Vince foster,
the white house aide
1044
00:44:41,179 --> 00:44:43,815
for Bill Clinton
had actually been murdered,
1045
00:44:43,815 --> 00:44:46,217
and that his body was found
in Hilary Clinton's apartment.
1046
00:44:46,217 --> 00:44:47,953
He said that once
on the air.
1047
00:44:47,953 --> 00:44:50,288
You know, so these weird
conspiracy theories,
1048
00:44:50,288 --> 00:44:52,924
and talk radio
is really peaking
1049
00:44:52,924 --> 00:44:54,225
at that point.
1050
00:44:54,225 --> 00:44:56,762
He's incredibly rich.
1051
00:44:56,762 --> 00:44:59,197
Well, that's because
he signed a contract
1052
00:44:59,197 --> 00:45:03,134
that gives him approximately
$34 million a year.
1053
00:45:03,134 --> 00:45:04,836
One of those funders,
we know for a fact,
1054
00:45:04,836 --> 00:45:07,238
in 2011,
was the Heritage Foundation,
1055
00:45:07,238 --> 00:45:08,339
because it was listed
1056
00:45:08,339 --> 00:45:09,775
as a line item
on their budget.
1057
00:45:11,342 --> 00:45:13,411
I remember when
Clinton was president,
1058
00:45:13,411 --> 00:45:16,848
and I came to visit
my parents one time.
1059
00:45:16,848 --> 00:45:19,350
My dad was hunched over
in the living room chair,
1060
00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:22,253
reading one of the books
against president Clinton.
1061
00:45:22,253 --> 00:45:24,422
I believe "slick Willy"
was in the title.
1062
00:45:24,422 --> 00:45:26,424
You couldn't mention
president Clinton,
1063
00:45:26,424 --> 00:45:29,127
without him yelling
about how he was a murderer,
1064
00:45:29,127 --> 00:45:31,797
and going to destroy
the country.
1065
00:45:31,797 --> 00:45:34,432
It made me think again
of what Hilary Clinton said
1066
00:45:34,432 --> 00:45:35,533
during that interview
1067
00:45:35,533 --> 00:45:37,302
when her husband
was in office.
1068
00:45:37,302 --> 00:45:39,337
This vast,
right wing conspiracy
1069
00:45:39,337 --> 00:45:42,040
that was been conspiring
against my husband
1070
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,275
since the day
he announced for president.
1071
00:45:44,275 --> 00:45:46,444
I was actually watching it
when she said that.
1072
00:45:46,444 --> 00:45:49,180
And I knew that what
she was saying was true.
1073
00:45:49,180 --> 00:45:52,150
I was involved with
and knew very much firsthand,
1074
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:53,518
that people who
1075
00:45:53,518 --> 00:45:55,120
I was working with,
in places like
1076
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,454
the "American Spectator"
magazine,
1077
00:45:56,454 --> 00:45:58,389
back in 1993
1078
00:45:58,389 --> 00:46:00,826
shortly after
Clinton was elected,
1079
00:46:00,826 --> 00:46:02,460
were trying to figure out
1080
00:46:02,460 --> 00:46:04,162
how to get him thrown
out of office.
1081
00:46:04,162 --> 00:46:05,563
How to impeach him.
1082
00:46:05,563 --> 00:46:07,332
On the strength
of the backlash
1083
00:46:07,332 --> 00:46:09,835
against Bill Clinton
in his first two years,
1084
00:46:09,835 --> 00:46:11,903
for the first time
in decades,
1085
00:46:11,903 --> 00:46:13,238
the Republicans took over
1086
00:46:13,238 --> 00:46:17,943
a very low turn out,
November 1994 election,
1087
00:46:17,943 --> 00:46:19,110
they made Rush Limbaugh
1088
00:46:19,110 --> 00:46:21,546
an honorary member
of Congress.
1089
00:46:21,546 --> 00:46:25,483
So, the role that Limbaugh
and talk radio played,
1090
00:46:25,483 --> 00:46:29,520
in the ascendancy
of the right wing in Congress,
1091
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,889
is crucial.
1092
00:46:30,889 --> 00:46:32,290
Most of us liked Clinton.
1093
00:46:32,290 --> 00:46:35,393
At one point,
almost 66% of us.
1094
00:46:35,393 --> 00:46:37,262
But some
of my more liberal friends
1095
00:46:37,262 --> 00:46:38,496
were mad at him
1096
00:46:38,496 --> 00:46:40,131
for some
pro-big business things
1097
00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:42,567
he did,
like signing NAFTA into law
1098
00:46:42,567 --> 00:46:44,135
and signing legislation
1099
00:46:44,135 --> 00:46:45,570
that repealed
the Glass–Steagall Act
1100
00:46:45,570 --> 00:46:47,873
in 1999.
1101
00:46:47,873 --> 00:46:51,209
The Glass–Steagall Act had been
enacted after the great depression.
1102
00:46:51,209 --> 00:46:53,444
Basically,
it separated and protected
1103
00:46:53,444 --> 00:46:56,915
your checkings and savings
from investment banks.
1104
00:46:56,915 --> 00:46:58,917
And that worked
for 60 years.
1105
00:47:01,586 --> 00:47:03,588
One of the biggest
steps forward
1106
00:47:03,588 --> 00:47:06,057
to handing
our whole media system
1107
00:47:06,057 --> 00:47:07,859
to a handful
of corporations,
1108
00:47:07,859 --> 00:47:10,161
was completely bipartisan.
1109
00:47:10,161 --> 00:47:14,332
It was the 1996
telecommunications reform act,
1110
00:47:14,332 --> 00:47:15,901
and I put "reform"
in quotes,
1111
00:47:15,901 --> 00:47:17,602
consumer rights' advocates
were calling it,
1112
00:47:17,602 --> 00:47:19,871
"the time Warner
enrichment act."
1113
00:47:19,871 --> 00:47:21,606
But president Bill Clinton
and the democrats
1114
00:47:21,606 --> 00:47:23,641
were getting huge
soft money donations
1115
00:47:23,641 --> 00:47:25,076
from the big media
1116
00:47:25,076 --> 00:47:26,644
and
telecommunications companies.
1117
00:47:26,644 --> 00:47:28,513
So was the republican
speaker of the house,
1118
00:47:28,513 --> 00:47:29,948
Newt Gingrich.
1119
00:47:29,948 --> 00:47:32,117
And together,
behind closed doors,
1120
00:47:32,117 --> 00:47:34,986
they developed
this telecommunications act,
1121
00:47:34,986 --> 00:47:37,889
which gave away the media
to these few big companies,
1122
00:47:37,889 --> 00:47:39,624
these... these
few fat companies
1123
00:47:39,624 --> 00:47:41,359
got even fatter.
1124
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:43,528
Mainstream media
didn't scrutinize it,
1125
00:47:43,528 --> 00:47:44,963
because they were
getting rich,
1126
00:47:44,963 --> 00:47:46,531
at the top.
1127
00:47:46,531 --> 00:47:50,936
And when you have that kind of
bipartisan corruption,
1128
00:47:50,936 --> 00:47:53,171
corrupting our media system,
1129
00:47:53,171 --> 00:47:57,475
it explains why we ended up
with the media system we have.
1130
00:47:57,475 --> 00:47:59,544
Signing
the telecommunications act,
1131
00:47:59,544 --> 00:48:02,647
helped set the stage
for something even bigger,
1132
00:48:02,647 --> 00:48:06,217
something that would change
the media landscape forever.
1133
00:48:06,217 --> 00:48:08,519
Remember a young Roger Ailes
in the Nixon days
1134
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:10,055
and that memo called,
1135
00:48:10,055 --> 00:48:13,358
"a plan for putting
the GOP on TV news"?
1136
00:48:13,358 --> 00:48:16,694
In 1996, 25 years later,
1137
00:48:16,694 --> 00:48:18,329
Fox News was launched
1138
00:48:18,329 --> 00:48:20,898
with the backing
of Rupert Murdoch.
1139
00:48:23,501 --> 00:48:26,037
Thanks in part
to the telecommunications act,
1140
00:48:26,037 --> 00:48:28,173
Rupert Murdoch's
news corp conglomerate
1141
00:48:28,173 --> 00:48:31,209
grew even larger.
1142
00:48:31,209 --> 00:48:34,545
And guess whom he hired
to help create Fox News?
1143
00:48:34,545 --> 00:48:35,981
Fox News grew to be
1144
00:48:35,981 --> 00:48:37,615
the dominating
cable news network,
1145
00:48:37,615 --> 00:48:39,017
and it's effect
1146
00:48:39,017 --> 00:48:40,318
on the other
major news stations
1147
00:48:40,318 --> 00:48:41,953
was profound.
1148
00:48:41,953 --> 00:48:44,655
Rupert Murdoch
is a media giant.
1149
00:48:44,655 --> 00:48:48,226
He owns news organizations
all over the world.
1150
00:48:48,226 --> 00:48:50,195
These include TV,
the Internet,
1151
00:48:50,195 --> 00:48:53,131
newspapers, and books.
1152
00:48:53,131 --> 00:48:56,134
That's a lot of influence
for one man.
1153
00:48:56,134 --> 00:48:58,536
In terms of you having
a global media enterprise,
1154
00:48:58,536 --> 00:49:00,438
I mean, have you shaked that
agenda at all?
1155
00:49:00,438 --> 00:49:02,240
Obviously,
if you're in media,
1156
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,309
and you're concerned with
what's going on in the world,
1157
00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:05,543
you'd like
to make a difference,
1158
00:49:05,543 --> 00:49:07,145
by putting forward
your opinions.
1159
00:49:07,145 --> 00:49:09,414
Excuse me?
1160
00:49:09,414 --> 00:49:12,317
If you're in media, and you're concerned
with what's going on in the world,
1161
00:49:12,317 --> 00:49:13,551
you'd like
to make a difference,
1162
00:49:13,551 --> 00:49:16,221
by putting forward
your opinions.
1163
00:49:16,221 --> 00:49:18,456
Murdoch may have his empire,
1164
00:49:18,456 --> 00:49:23,194
but it's Roger Ailes
who has the talent.
1165
00:49:23,194 --> 00:49:26,998
Fox News is really
Roger Ailes' megaphone.
1166
00:49:26,998 --> 00:49:28,599
And when he comes
into work every day,
1167
00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:30,335
there's morning meeting
that takes place
1168
00:49:30,335 --> 00:49:32,370
in his office,
at 8:00 am,
1169
00:49:32,370 --> 00:49:34,305
and his control
over Fox News
1170
00:49:34,305 --> 00:49:36,541
is so absolute,
that when he says something,
1171
00:49:36,541 --> 00:49:38,043
it happens.
1172
00:49:38,043 --> 00:49:39,577
What happens in 1998?
1173
00:49:39,577 --> 00:49:43,014
Bill Clinton has an affair
with an intern.
1174
00:49:43,014 --> 00:49:45,450
Well, for an entire year,
they do wall-to-wall coverage.
1175
00:49:45,450 --> 00:49:47,085
What happens in 2000?
1176
00:49:47,085 --> 00:49:50,588
Another year when Fox News
exploded in the ratings.
1177
00:49:50,588 --> 00:49:52,290
The Bush-Gore recount.
1178
00:49:52,290 --> 00:49:53,724
How did Ailes
cover that story?
1179
00:49:53,724 --> 00:49:54,792
He covered it as,
1180
00:49:54,792 --> 00:49:56,494
not that
it's too close to call,
1181
00:49:56,494 --> 00:49:57,528
and we need to do
a recount,
1182
00:49:57,528 --> 00:49:59,030
he covered it as,
1183
00:49:59,030 --> 00:50:01,399
"al Gore and the democrats
are sore losers,
1184
00:50:01,399 --> 00:50:03,168
and they're trying to steal
the election."
1185
00:50:03,168 --> 00:50:06,204
Fast-forward to 2001
and 9/11,
1186
00:50:06,204 --> 00:50:07,672
how did he cover that story?
1187
00:50:07,672 --> 00:50:09,307
As a second Pearl Harbor,
1188
00:50:09,307 --> 00:50:11,542
not that this is a...
A terrorist attack,
1189
00:50:11,542 --> 00:50:13,778
that there are other ways
of dealing with terrorism,
1190
00:50:13,778 --> 00:50:16,281
law enforcement
targeted strike.
1191
00:50:16,281 --> 00:50:18,583
Fox News, more than
any other media outlet,
1192
00:50:18,583 --> 00:50:21,319
sold the war
as this grand struggle
1193
00:50:21,319 --> 00:50:22,753
and America was gonna
1194
00:50:22,753 --> 00:50:24,622
go in there
and... and, kick ass.
1195
00:50:24,622 --> 00:50:27,425
And George Bush was
this John Wayne figure.
1196
00:50:27,425 --> 00:50:29,094
I mean all of this...
This symbolism.
1197
00:50:29,094 --> 00:50:30,328
The patriotism,
1198
00:50:30,328 --> 00:50:32,363
the anchors
wearing the flag pins,
1199
00:50:32,363 --> 00:50:34,265
you know, Roger Ailes
knew that these stories,
1200
00:50:34,265 --> 00:50:36,301
these big stories
could be boiled down
1201
00:50:36,301 --> 00:50:38,269
to very simple plotlines.
1202
00:50:38,269 --> 00:50:39,837
He says things like,
1203
00:50:39,837 --> 00:50:41,339
"if we can convince
the audience
1204
00:50:41,339 --> 00:50:43,174
that we are fair
and balanced,
1205
00:50:43,174 --> 00:50:45,343
we can actually,
1206
00:50:45,343 --> 00:50:47,245
move the audience
to the right,
1207
00:50:47,245 --> 00:50:49,280
by introducing kind of
right wing themes
1208
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,615
surreptitiously.
1209
00:50:53,384 --> 00:50:55,553
This is it.
1210
00:50:56,687 --> 00:50:58,423
Thank you.
1211
00:50:58,423 --> 00:51:00,291
Move in fast,
it's damn cold.
1212
00:51:02,227 --> 00:51:05,663
Fox News is the real...
Fairly important development.
1213
00:51:05,663 --> 00:51:10,801
What it does is bring out
explicit right wing views
1214
00:51:10,801 --> 00:51:12,803
right into the heart
of the media,
1215
00:51:12,803 --> 00:51:15,340
making no...
Hardly any pretense
1216
00:51:15,340 --> 00:51:16,341
and objectivity.
1217
00:51:16,341 --> 00:51:17,742
And it makes, sometimes,
1218
00:51:17,742 --> 00:51:21,479
statements suggesting
that it's being fair,
1219
00:51:21,479 --> 00:51:24,449
but it's...
It's blatantly biased,
1220
00:51:24,449 --> 00:51:28,286
and it has
republican politicians on.
1221
00:51:28,286 --> 00:51:29,720
They hardly mince
their words
1222
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:33,458
that it... it has
a political agenda.
1223
00:51:33,458 --> 00:51:35,626
And it's also
very important
1224
00:51:35,626 --> 00:51:38,196
in that it's had an effect
on the rest of the media.
1225
00:51:38,196 --> 00:51:41,166
It was already pretty nice
to the right wing
1226
00:51:41,166 --> 00:51:43,134
but it has to go
even farther
1227
00:51:43,134 --> 00:51:45,436
being nice
to the right wing.
1228
00:51:45,436 --> 00:51:47,872
The most dangerous thing
about Fox News
1229
00:51:47,872 --> 00:51:51,309
is not the fact
that it exists,
1230
00:51:51,309 --> 00:51:53,178
and speaks
to it's audience
1231
00:51:53,178 --> 00:51:55,213
of a few million people.
1232
00:51:55,213 --> 00:51:56,847
It's the effect
that Fox can have
1233
00:51:56,847 --> 00:51:58,249
on the rest of the media.
1234
00:51:58,249 --> 00:51:59,484
Time and again,
1235
00:51:59,484 --> 00:52:00,751
you'll see a false
and wrong story
1236
00:52:00,751 --> 00:52:02,453
that is aired,
1237
00:52:02,453 --> 00:52:05,823
and starts moving through
the Fox News channel
1238
00:52:05,823 --> 00:52:07,492
on a given day,
1239
00:52:07,492 --> 00:52:09,894
and it, bleeding over,
or spilling over,
1240
00:52:09,894 --> 00:52:12,830
into mainstream intuitions
of journalism.
1241
00:52:12,830 --> 00:52:15,433
Media critics coined
this term, "Fox effect,"
1242
00:52:15,433 --> 00:52:17,402
to mean,
media is an ecosystem,
1243
00:52:17,402 --> 00:52:19,437
and all media
affects other media,
1244
00:52:19,437 --> 00:52:21,806
and so, the existence
of Fox News,
1245
00:52:21,806 --> 00:52:25,943
and having that wrong approach
to journalism out there,
1246
00:52:25,943 --> 00:52:28,946
has a toxic effect
on the rest of journalism.
1247
00:52:28,946 --> 00:52:32,317
These are areas, which even
the government officials
1248
00:52:32,317 --> 00:52:33,884
have said,
these are no-go zones,
1249
00:52:33,884 --> 00:52:36,187
you don't go in 'em
if you're not a Muslim.
1250
00:52:36,187 --> 00:52:37,855
There's no law enforcement
1251
00:52:37,855 --> 00:52:41,659
other than what's enforced by
the Muslim communities there.
1252
00:52:41,659 --> 00:52:43,794
The French government
created environment
1253
00:52:43,794 --> 00:52:45,496
in these certain neighborhoods
where
1254
00:52:45,496 --> 00:52:48,533
they don't allow local
law enforcement to come in,
1255
00:52:48,533 --> 00:52:52,870
these no-go zones
in, uh, in France.
1256
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:54,905
And they become, then,
recruiting grounds,
1257
00:52:54,905 --> 00:52:57,708
they become
a sort of festering region
1258
00:52:57,708 --> 00:53:00,278
where Islamic extremism
can thrive.
1259
00:53:00,278 --> 00:53:02,447
All right, so,
now this extremism
1260
00:53:02,447 --> 00:53:03,914
could grow
in that environment.
1261
00:53:03,914 --> 00:53:05,816
So, they air the stories,
1262
00:53:05,816 --> 00:53:07,352
then they start
to bang the drums
1263
00:53:07,352 --> 00:53:09,820
that the mainstream media
is censoring
1264
00:53:09,820 --> 00:53:11,522
and won't report,
1265
00:53:11,522 --> 00:53:15,793
to try to pressure
and guilt the mainstream media
1266
00:53:15,793 --> 00:53:17,462
into following their lead.
1267
00:53:17,462 --> 00:53:19,264
When I was in Fox News,
1268
00:53:19,264 --> 00:53:20,865
I can remember
sitting in the greenroom
1269
00:53:20,865 --> 00:53:22,767
before a show was taped,
1270
00:53:22,767 --> 00:53:26,337
and a particularly
biased segment comes on,
1271
00:53:26,337 --> 00:53:28,939
and, uh, and then someone
in the greenroom,
1272
00:53:28,939 --> 00:53:31,442
where we're all waiting
these include
1273
00:53:31,442 --> 00:53:34,612
Fox News producers,
Fox News staff,
1274
00:53:34,612 --> 00:53:35,913
Fox News contributors.
1275
00:53:35,913 --> 00:53:37,482
Someone'll say,
1276
00:53:37,482 --> 00:53:38,983
"wow, that was really
fair and balanced,"
1277
00:53:38,983 --> 00:53:40,951
and the whole place
erupts in laughter.
1278
00:53:40,951 --> 00:53:43,721
There's actually
almost no journalism involved.
1279
00:53:43,721 --> 00:53:45,823
And I mean,
when the Tsunami hit,
1280
00:53:45,823 --> 00:53:48,259
Fox News literally
couldn't cover it.
1281
00:53:48,259 --> 00:53:51,262
They just, they didn't have
anyone with a camera with them.
1282
00:53:51,262 --> 00:53:52,563
For a week,
for days, and weeks,
1283
00:53:52,563 --> 00:53:53,898
they just didn't care.
1284
00:53:53,898 --> 00:53:56,334
So, it's a very cheap way
to run a quote.
1285
00:53:56,334 --> 00:53:57,402
News organizations,
1286
00:53:57,402 --> 00:53:58,636
you just sort of
sit around,
1287
00:53:58,636 --> 00:54:00,938
and talk about
how awful democrats are.
1288
00:54:00,938 --> 00:54:02,773
Most of Fox's audiences
is older.
1289
00:54:02,773 --> 00:54:04,742
However, we were
surprised to find out
1290
00:54:04,742 --> 00:54:06,877
that there were parents
and grandparents
1291
00:54:06,877 --> 00:54:08,746
who introduced
their children,
1292
00:54:08,746 --> 00:54:10,715
and grandchildren to it.
1293
00:54:10,715 --> 00:54:12,550
And we were more surprised
to find out
1294
00:54:12,550 --> 00:54:15,753
that some teenagers
were watching Fox.
1295
00:54:17,888 --> 00:54:19,857
I had my granddaughter
with me the other day,
1296
00:54:19,857 --> 00:54:21,292
she's 19.
1297
00:54:21,292 --> 00:54:23,894
She has taxes
taken out of her check.
1298
00:54:23,894 --> 00:54:26,664
And she just came up
with this comment,
1299
00:54:26,664 --> 00:54:28,399
"you know, gram,
1300
00:54:28,399 --> 00:54:30,901
"I don't really like my taxes
paying for lazy people
1301
00:54:30,901 --> 00:54:32,303
who do nothing,"
1302
00:54:32,303 --> 00:54:35,673
and...
I just was so shocked,
1303
00:54:35,673 --> 00:54:38,008
I calmly gathered myself,
1304
00:54:38,008 --> 00:54:39,910
and said,
"hey, do you know why
1305
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:42,747
the library's closed
on Fridays now?"
1306
00:54:42,747 --> 00:54:45,350
It's because there's no taxes
to keep it open.
1307
00:54:46,717 --> 00:54:50,655
After reading an article
by a 24-year-old
1308
00:54:50,655 --> 00:54:55,326
ex-Fox devotee,
we decided to interview him.
1309
00:54:55,326 --> 00:54:57,462
The name
of his article was...
1310
00:55:01,699 --> 00:55:03,067
We had one computer
1311
00:55:03,067 --> 00:55:05,102
with a dial-up modem
that was really slow,
1312
00:55:05,102 --> 00:55:08,939
so it was just faster to get the
news off TV back in the day.
1313
00:55:08,939 --> 00:55:10,608
And so,
I turn on the TV,
1314
00:55:10,608 --> 00:55:13,478
and that's what started
making me political.
1315
00:55:13,478 --> 00:55:16,847
And, you know,
I turned the TV on,
1316
00:55:16,847 --> 00:55:19,884
and I put on CNN or MSNBC,
and my father would walk by,
1317
00:55:19,884 --> 00:55:21,686
and he'd go, "oh,
that's liberal propaganda,
1318
00:55:21,686 --> 00:55:23,020
you gotta watch this."
1319
00:55:23,020 --> 00:55:24,755
And he would change
the channel to Fox News,
1320
00:55:24,755 --> 00:55:27,525
and then "a" led to "b,"
and so on.
1321
00:55:27,525 --> 00:55:28,693
Years ago, I was dating
1322
00:55:28,693 --> 00:55:30,695
this nice,
lovable, sweet lady,
1323
00:55:30,695 --> 00:55:32,463
and we broke up.
1324
00:55:32,463 --> 00:55:34,399
That happens.
Not a big deal.
1325
00:55:34,399 --> 00:55:36,501
We stayed in contact,
good friends.
1326
00:55:36,501 --> 00:55:38,936
Very sweet, 'cause,
you know, she's likeable.
1327
00:55:38,936 --> 00:55:41,572
However, right around
the 2004 election,
1328
00:55:41,572 --> 00:55:43,408
she started
watching Fox News,
1329
00:55:43,408 --> 00:55:48,045
and that sweet, lovable,
likeable person was gone.
1330
00:55:48,045 --> 00:55:50,981
And was replaced...
Corrupted by Fox
1331
00:55:50,981 --> 00:55:55,119
into this intolerant,
willfully ignorant...
1332
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:57,688
Compassionless individual.
1333
00:55:57,688 --> 00:56:01,492
I tried to steer
her away from Fox,
1334
00:56:01,492 --> 00:56:04,762
into listening to every...
Anything else but Fox,
1335
00:56:04,762 --> 00:56:07,965
but she got more and more
sucked into that fox hole,
1336
00:56:07,965 --> 00:56:10,501
and now, that sweet,
lovable person
1337
00:56:10,501 --> 00:56:11,869
I once knew is gone.
1338
00:56:11,869 --> 00:56:13,571
And I miss my friend.
1339
00:56:13,571 --> 00:56:16,674
I wish she'd come back.
I wish she'd stop watching...
1340
00:56:18,142 --> 00:56:20,545
I just basically believed
1341
00:56:20,545 --> 00:56:22,513
that Bill O'Reilly was
sort of like the champion
1342
00:56:22,513 --> 00:56:24,649
of the rights
for the common people, right?
1343
00:56:24,649 --> 00:56:27,485
Which is totally ridiculous.
1344
00:56:27,485 --> 00:56:29,086
But at the time,
I believed it. Right?
1345
00:56:29,086 --> 00:56:30,721
I remember,
he was arguing that
1346
00:56:30,721 --> 00:56:33,458
the ALCU was
a terrorist organization.
1347
00:56:33,458 --> 00:56:36,861
Yeah. Because they're trying
to take away all our rights,
1348
00:56:36,861 --> 00:56:40,798
which is totally...
I mean, patently false,
1349
00:56:40,798 --> 00:56:44,168
as big of a lie as
you could possibly propagate,
1350
00:56:44,168 --> 00:56:46,136
but he was saying it
as if it was true.
1351
00:56:46,136 --> 00:56:47,505
And I was there
in the gym,
1352
00:56:47,505 --> 00:56:48,839
or wherever I was,
listening to it,
1353
00:56:48,839 --> 00:56:50,207
and be like,
"oh my god.
1354
00:56:50,207 --> 00:56:51,676
This guy gets it."
1355
00:56:51,676 --> 00:56:52,877
You know,
this guy gets
1356
00:56:52,877 --> 00:56:55,045
that if they take away
our right
1357
00:56:55,045 --> 00:56:56,481
to say, "Merry Christmas,"
1358
00:56:56,481 --> 00:56:58,215
we're no better
than the terrorists!
1359
00:56:58,215 --> 00:57:01,051
And that's the kind of
insane bullshit
1360
00:57:01,051 --> 00:57:03,521
that Fox News
gets people to believe.
1361
00:57:12,129 --> 00:57:14,765
I never knew
there was war on Christmas
1362
00:57:14,765 --> 00:57:16,967
until my dad
started sending us,
1363
00:57:16,967 --> 00:57:20,771
the whole family,
e-mails about dreaded,
1364
00:57:20,771 --> 00:57:22,973
horrible, terrible,
evil liberals,
1365
00:57:22,973 --> 00:57:25,209
who wanted
to kill Christmas,
1366
00:57:25,209 --> 00:57:28,579
and...
Liberals who didn't even
1367
00:57:28,579 --> 00:57:31,649
want Christmas trees
in schools,
1368
00:57:31,649 --> 00:57:34,652
or red, or green
allowed anywhere,
1369
00:57:34,652 --> 00:57:36,987
and... whether it was
Christmas day or not.
1370
00:57:36,987 --> 00:57:40,090
In fact, it usually
wasn't Christmas day.
1371
00:57:40,090 --> 00:57:44,829
He would just say adamantly,
"merry Christmas!"
1372
00:57:44,829 --> 00:57:47,031
Wherever he went, to...
1373
00:57:47,031 --> 00:57:49,734
If... if he saw somebody
in front of a synagogue,
1374
00:57:49,734 --> 00:57:53,237
let's say, he would say,
"Merry Christmas."
1375
00:57:53,237 --> 00:57:55,540
'Cause those damn liberals,
1376
00:57:55,540 --> 00:57:57,274
they weren't gonna take away
Christmas from him,
1377
00:57:57,274 --> 00:57:59,544
there was no,
"Happy Holidays,"
1378
00:57:59,544 --> 00:58:02,547
for Frank Senko, my dad.
1379
00:58:09,954 --> 00:58:12,222
So, I learned
how the country
1380
00:58:12,222 --> 00:58:13,991
was pushed to the right,
1381
00:58:13,991 --> 00:58:15,760
and a whole new media
1382
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,529
was created
to help that along.
1383
00:58:18,529 --> 00:58:22,833
My dad, and many others,
got swept up in that tide.
1384
00:58:22,833 --> 00:58:26,003
I didn't think
he was actually brainwashed.
1385
00:58:26,003 --> 00:58:28,205
Didn't you need
brainwashing camps?
1386
00:58:28,205 --> 00:58:31,008
Like, where someone
is locked away,
1387
00:58:31,008 --> 00:58:33,944
with constant words,
and images coming at them,
1388
00:58:33,944 --> 00:58:35,846
in their every waking hour?
1389
00:58:35,846 --> 00:58:38,182
But I wanted to explore
that notion.
1390
00:58:38,182 --> 00:58:40,284
I found neuroscientist,
1391
00:58:40,284 --> 00:58:41,886
Kathleen Taylor,
from London,
1392
00:58:41,886 --> 00:58:44,589
who is an expert
on brainwashing.
1393
00:58:44,589 --> 00:58:46,256
I interviewed her
via Skype.
1394
00:58:46,256 --> 00:58:48,025
There are kind of two ways
1395
00:58:48,025 --> 00:58:49,694
you can think
about brainwashing.
1396
00:58:49,694 --> 00:58:52,162
You can either think of it
as this very coercive,
1397
00:58:52,162 --> 00:58:54,231
forced,
psychological torture,
1398
00:58:54,231 --> 00:58:56,300
where people
are put into situations,
1399
00:58:56,300 --> 00:58:58,769
put through horrors,
and, you know,
1400
00:58:58,769 --> 00:59:01,071
actually browbeaten
into believing,
1401
00:59:01,071 --> 00:59:03,808
or pretending to believe,
something new.
1402
00:59:03,808 --> 00:59:05,710
So, that's brainwashing
by force, if you like.
1403
00:59:05,710 --> 00:59:07,277
Then there's brainwashing
by stealth,
1404
00:59:07,277 --> 00:59:08,713
which is where,
1405
00:59:08,713 --> 00:59:10,047
it's not so much
that they are forced
1406
00:59:10,047 --> 00:59:11,281
to believe stuff,
1407
00:59:11,281 --> 00:59:13,584
it's just that
all the information
1408
00:59:13,584 --> 00:59:16,053
that comes at them,
is pushing a line.
1409
00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:17,622
And so,
there is no alternative
1410
00:59:17,622 --> 00:59:18,789
in terms of information.
1411
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:20,224
And if you control
the information
1412
00:59:20,224 --> 00:59:21,258
that goes
into the brain,
1413
00:59:21,258 --> 00:59:22,793
to a great degree,
1414
00:59:22,793 --> 00:59:24,695
you control
what that brain is gonna do
1415
00:59:24,695 --> 00:59:27,097
in terms of what the person's
gonna believe.
1416
00:59:27,097 --> 00:59:29,133
You're not forcing anybody
to believe it,
1417
00:59:29,133 --> 00:59:30,735
but you're making it difficult
for them
1418
00:59:30,735 --> 00:59:31,969
to think of anything else
1419
00:59:31,969 --> 00:59:33,804
because the horizons
are narrowed.
1420
00:59:33,804 --> 00:59:35,139
What's happening
is that,
1421
00:59:35,139 --> 00:59:37,608
there's a kind of
filtration process
1422
00:59:37,608 --> 00:59:40,044
whereby,
information comes in
1423
00:59:40,044 --> 00:59:43,948
and it's checked, to see how easily
it fits into what's already there.
1424
00:59:43,948 --> 00:59:46,784
That brought me back
to George Lakoff.
1425
00:59:46,784 --> 00:59:48,352
You can only understand
1426
00:59:48,352 --> 00:59:50,054
what the neurocircuits
of your brain
1427
00:59:50,054 --> 00:59:51,622
allow you to understand.
1428
00:59:51,622 --> 00:59:53,991
Any fact
that doesn't fit that
1429
00:59:53,991 --> 00:59:55,693
will be ignored,
1430
00:59:55,693 --> 00:59:58,128
or rejected as ridiculous
and so on.
1431
00:59:58,128 --> 01:00:00,030
They don't know their brains
have been changed.
1432
01:00:00,030 --> 01:00:02,066
They don't know
this mechanism.
1433
01:00:02,066 --> 01:00:03,801
It's just there.
They listen to it.
1434
01:00:03,801 --> 01:00:05,870
It slides in,
and you barely notice,
1435
01:00:05,870 --> 01:00:07,271
because
the information's familiar,
1436
01:00:07,271 --> 01:00:09,139
you don't have
to think about it.
1437
01:00:09,139 --> 01:00:11,876
If those beliefs are very
strongly and passionately held,
1438
01:00:11,876 --> 01:00:13,711
then you may find
1439
01:00:13,711 --> 01:00:16,013
that any belief
that threatens them,
1440
01:00:16,013 --> 01:00:18,182
is just rejected
out of hand.
1441
01:00:18,182 --> 01:00:21,018
You can't win, because it
doesn't make any difference
1442
01:00:21,018 --> 01:00:24,021
how many facts
you put out there.
1443
01:00:24,021 --> 01:00:26,290
It's all about
the emotion of...
1444
01:00:26,290 --> 01:00:30,360
Of anger, and hate,
and fear.
1445
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,962
When I think about
brainwashing,
1446
01:00:31,962 --> 01:00:33,798
I tend to think about
1447
01:00:33,798 --> 01:00:36,901
kind of five important factors
that are involved
1448
01:00:36,901 --> 01:00:39,336
in creating
this kind of belief change.
1449
01:00:39,336 --> 01:00:41,939
So, those are...
1450
01:00:44,909 --> 01:00:48,145
...and then there’s also
the use of strong emotions.
1451
01:00:48,145 --> 01:00:51,315
It often seemed that my dad
was actually addicted
1452
01:00:51,315 --> 01:00:53,283
to these angry emotions.
1453
01:00:53,283 --> 01:00:56,220
He just couldn't wait
to shut himself off,
1454
01:00:56,220 --> 01:00:58,823
and listen to Rush Limbaugh
for three hours
1455
01:00:58,823 --> 01:01:00,858
and get all pissed off.
1456
01:01:00,858 --> 01:01:03,293
If you watch something
that makes you very angry,
1457
01:01:03,293 --> 01:01:04,929
you can start getting
addicted to that,
1458
01:01:04,929 --> 01:01:06,296
because you get angry...
1459
01:01:06,296 --> 01:01:08,065
You get angry,
that drives stress response.
1460
01:01:08,065 --> 01:01:09,133
Endorphin is released
1461
01:01:09,133 --> 01:01:11,101
as part
of the stress response.
1462
01:01:11,101 --> 01:01:13,237
And endorphin is the main
pleasure chemical in the brain.
1463
01:01:13,237 --> 01:01:16,040
The tricky thing is,
it's mostly unconscious.
1464
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,443
People are sort of tricked, like in
the case of your... of your father.
1465
01:01:19,443 --> 01:01:22,079
Okay, so clearly,
the media has a very powerful
1466
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:24,849
and profound effect
on all of us.
1467
01:01:24,849 --> 01:01:27,251
So, I wondered if there were
certain techniques
1468
01:01:27,251 --> 01:01:29,419
right wing media especially,
1469
01:01:29,419 --> 01:01:32,122
uses to create
that belief change,
1470
01:01:32,122 --> 01:01:34,859
that Kathleen Taylor
talks about,
1471
01:01:34,859 --> 01:01:39,263
which, quite often, results in people
voting against their own interests,
1472
01:01:39,263 --> 01:01:43,868
or even going against
the very core of who they are.
1473
01:01:43,868 --> 01:01:45,035
And I came across
1474
01:01:45,035 --> 01:01:46,837
several scientists
and doctors
1475
01:01:46,837 --> 01:01:49,774
who identified
some of these tactics.
1476
01:02:01,752 --> 01:02:05,222
We know he's got tons of
weapons in his own country,
1477
01:02:05,222 --> 01:02:08,225
and we're not gonna ever
locate them until he's gone.
1478
01:02:08,225 --> 01:02:09,459
At the time was we thought
1479
01:02:09,459 --> 01:02:11,061
he had weapons
of mass destruction.
1480
01:02:11,061 --> 01:02:12,830
It turns out, he didn't.
1481
01:02:12,830 --> 01:02:14,264
He followed the rules,
1482
01:02:14,264 --> 01:02:15,766
Bush did,
1483
01:02:15,766 --> 01:02:17,101
and we lost that,
we lost the weapons.
1484
01:02:17,101 --> 01:02:19,036
They never found weapons
of mass destruction.
1485
01:02:19,036 --> 01:02:20,504
They had 'em,
but they moved them.
1486
01:02:20,504 --> 01:02:22,372
They were moving everything
into Syria.
1487
01:02:22,372 --> 01:02:27,878
U-gov found that 63%
of Republicans still believe
1488
01:02:27,878 --> 01:02:30,280
that Iraq had weapons
of mass destruction
1489
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,217
when the U.S.
invaded in 2003.
1490
01:02:34,318 --> 01:02:36,153
What news shows often do,
1491
01:02:36,153 --> 01:02:39,289
is they'll...
They'll cite a statistic
1492
01:02:39,289 --> 01:02:41,158
or they'll cite a finding,
1493
01:02:41,158 --> 01:02:43,493
but they won't really
tell you where it's from.
1494
01:02:43,493 --> 01:02:45,295
They won't tell you
much about the study,
1495
01:02:45,295 --> 01:02:46,363
they won't tell you
1496
01:02:46,363 --> 01:02:48,465
who's compiling
that statistic,
1497
01:02:48,465 --> 01:02:50,500
they just kind of cite it
out of thin air.
1498
01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:52,236
Who's put the statistic out?
1499
01:02:52,236 --> 01:02:54,471
Is this
scientifically proven?
1500
01:02:54,471 --> 01:02:56,340
Was it peer reviewed?
Who paid for it?
1501
01:02:56,340 --> 01:02:58,375
Fairleigh Dickinson
University's
1502
01:02:58,375 --> 01:02:59,810
public mind survey,
1503
01:02:59,810 --> 01:03:03,413
asked 1,185
nationwide respondents
1504
01:03:03,413 --> 01:03:05,349
what
their news sources were,
1505
01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:07,217
and then asked them
about the events,
1506
01:03:07,217 --> 01:03:10,120
in the U.S. and abroad.
1507
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,488
Fox viewers
got less right
1508
01:03:11,488 --> 01:03:13,858
than people
who watched no news, at all.
1509
01:03:15,525 --> 01:03:17,361
They'll say something
that's just blatantly,
1510
01:03:17,361 --> 01:03:18,829
obviously false.
1511
01:03:18,829 --> 01:03:22,232
I'll say,
"find me any legit source,
1512
01:03:22,232 --> 01:03:23,367
that backs you up,
1513
01:03:23,367 --> 01:03:24,902
and fine,
I'll believe it."
1514
01:03:24,902 --> 01:03:26,103
They're like, "oh, well,
1515
01:03:26,103 --> 01:03:28,605
every single newspaper
in America
1516
01:03:28,605 --> 01:03:31,842
is run by liberal elites
with an agenda."
1517
01:03:31,842 --> 01:03:34,178
Well, okay,
if the only news source
1518
01:03:34,178 --> 01:03:36,213
that you can trust
is Fox News,
1519
01:03:36,213 --> 01:03:37,347
that sounds
really paranoid.
1520
01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:41,919
The noise machine
is really designed
1521
01:03:41,919 --> 01:03:43,153
to create confusion,
1522
01:03:43,153 --> 01:03:46,857
create misinformation,
create fear.
1523
01:03:46,857 --> 01:03:49,393
And so,
the republican noise machine
1524
01:03:49,393 --> 01:03:51,028
is one
of the republican party's
1525
01:03:51,028 --> 01:03:53,630
sort of works in concert
with Fox News,
1526
01:03:53,630 --> 01:03:56,200
with Rush Limbaugh,
with am talk radio,
1527
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,169
and it's really designed
just to distract people,
1528
01:03:59,169 --> 01:04:00,604
to attack,
and smear people.
1529
01:04:00,604 --> 01:04:03,874
The absolute base of it
is the deliberate
1530
01:04:03,874 --> 01:04:05,976
dissemination
of misinformation.
1531
01:04:05,976 --> 01:04:07,411
In order
to confuse the viewers,
1532
01:04:07,411 --> 01:04:10,280
and news consumers
and get them all riled up.
1533
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,082
I asked Eric to give me
some examples
1534
01:04:12,082 --> 01:04:14,284
of
Deliberate misinformation.
1535
01:04:14,284 --> 01:04:17,087
During the 2008 campaign,
1536
01:04:17,087 --> 01:04:18,923
there was sort of
this right wing crusade
1537
01:04:18,923 --> 01:04:22,159
about voter fraud
and voter registration.
1538
01:04:22,159 --> 01:04:24,194
There's very little
voter fraud, meaning
1539
01:04:24,194 --> 01:04:26,163
someone shows up
to the voting place
1540
01:04:26,163 --> 01:04:28,265
and pretends to be
somebody else to vote.
1541
01:04:29,533 --> 01:04:31,068
Some of the worst things,
1542
01:04:31,068 --> 01:04:33,503
remember the massive attempt
1543
01:04:33,503 --> 01:04:37,975
to create
the climate change denial
1544
01:04:37,975 --> 01:04:39,276
with huge programs.
1545
01:04:39,276 --> 01:04:41,678
The American chamber
of commerce,
1546
01:04:41,678 --> 01:04:44,081
the drilling industry,
they have announced publicly
1547
01:04:44,081 --> 01:04:46,383
that they're carrying out
propaganda.
1548
01:04:46,383 --> 01:04:49,286
They probably go
to educational programs
1549
01:04:49,286 --> 01:04:50,654
to explain to people
1550
01:04:50,654 --> 01:04:54,191
that humans don't have
anything to do with
1551
01:04:54,191 --> 01:04:56,126
climate change,
and so on.
1552
01:04:56,126 --> 01:04:58,562
But, you gotta make
profit tomorrow.
1553
01:04:58,562 --> 01:05:00,564
And if the species
goes down the tube,
1554
01:05:00,564 --> 01:05:02,066
that's
somebody else's problem.
1555
01:05:02,066 --> 01:05:03,300
And the arctic ice cap
1556
01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:04,634
at the north pole.
1557
01:05:04,634 --> 01:05:07,404
It's in it's so-called
normal range,
1558
01:05:07,404 --> 01:05:09,139
not only
is the ice not melting,
1559
01:05:09,139 --> 01:05:12,142
more polar bears
are alive and happy today
1560
01:05:12,142 --> 01:05:14,411
than we've had
in 100 years.
1561
01:05:14,411 --> 01:05:17,047
Life is good, miss,
uh, miss Kelly.
1562
01:05:17,047 --> 01:05:19,449
I gotta tell ya,
life is good.
1563
01:05:27,291 --> 01:05:30,060
The goal is to get people
so mad
1564
01:05:30,060 --> 01:05:31,695
at each other, that they...
1565
01:05:44,441 --> 01:05:45,575
Bob Haldeman,
1566
01:05:45,575 --> 01:05:47,244
Nixon's famous
chief of staff
1567
01:05:47,244 --> 01:05:48,712
went on
to "the today show,"
1568
01:05:48,712 --> 01:05:51,215
and said, "all politics
is the politics of division."
1569
01:05:51,215 --> 01:05:52,983
The team that manages
to divide the country
1570
01:05:52,983 --> 01:05:55,085
and end up
with the bigger side, wins.
1571
01:05:55,085 --> 01:05:57,554
On one side, president Obama
and the Democratic party,
1572
01:05:57,554 --> 01:06:00,124
want America to become
an entitlement state
1573
01:06:00,124 --> 01:06:02,226
versus a self-reliant one.
1574
01:06:02,226 --> 01:06:03,460
With... with
African-Americans,
1575
01:06:03,460 --> 01:06:05,329
is that
we're all on welfare.
1576
01:06:05,329 --> 01:06:06,696
The assumption is,
is that,
1577
01:06:06,696 --> 01:06:08,165
is that we can't get that
1578
01:06:08,165 --> 01:06:09,566
without taking
it from somebody else,
1579
01:06:09,566 --> 01:06:10,667
and that's simply not true.
1580
01:06:10,667 --> 01:06:13,070
Welfare is very,
very generous.
1581
01:06:13,070 --> 01:06:14,571
You're not motivated
to succeed,
1582
01:06:14,571 --> 01:06:16,606
because you are getting
free stuff
1583
01:06:16,606 --> 01:06:18,342
from the government.
1584
01:06:18,342 --> 01:06:20,644
You are surrounded by goodies
that are put onto you.
1585
01:06:22,212 --> 01:06:23,713
Well, as long as he's...
1586
01:06:23,713 --> 01:06:26,350
As long as the government
is supplying him
1587
01:06:26,350 --> 01:06:27,584
the... the money,
1588
01:06:27,584 --> 01:06:30,687
just that,
he needs to live on,
1589
01:06:30,687 --> 01:06:33,490
he's not interested
in getting a job.
1590
01:06:33,490 --> 01:06:35,125
So, he could,
1591
01:06:35,125 --> 01:06:36,660
he'll go on
year after year,
1592
01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:38,095
after year,
1593
01:06:38,095 --> 01:06:39,496
you know,
on the government dole
1594
01:06:39,496 --> 01:06:41,398
and not bother
getting a job.
1595
01:06:43,267 --> 01:06:45,502
"Branding," is about
creating an image
1596
01:06:45,502 --> 01:06:47,337
that will stick
in the mind.
1597
01:06:47,337 --> 01:06:49,673
Whether that image created
is accurate or not,
1598
01:06:49,673 --> 01:06:51,208
doesn't matter.
1599
01:06:51,208 --> 01:06:53,110
Democrats, liberals,
and progressives
1600
01:06:53,110 --> 01:06:55,079
are branded
as big government spenders,
1601
01:06:55,079 --> 01:06:56,813
dishonest,
America-hating elitists
1602
01:06:56,813 --> 01:06:59,083
who are all atheists,
who hate Christmas,
1603
01:06:59,083 --> 01:07:01,418
and are soft on crime,
and weak on defense.
1604
01:07:01,418 --> 01:07:03,520
They've branded
the media as liberal,
1605
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,589
so much so,
that it's taken for granted
1606
01:07:05,589 --> 01:07:07,191
that it's true.
1607
01:07:07,191 --> 01:07:10,060
- One, catchphrase...
-mm-hmm.
1608
01:07:10,060 --> 01:07:12,829
...that I... I hear
over and over again,
1609
01:07:12,829 --> 01:07:14,731
-is "liberal media."
- Mm-hmm.
1610
01:07:14,731 --> 01:07:17,501
- Did you hear your dad...
-all the time.
1611
01:07:17,501 --> 01:07:19,536
I heard him use the term,
"liberal media" all the time.
1612
01:07:19,536 --> 01:07:20,804
He'd be like,
"oh, you can't listen
1613
01:07:20,804 --> 01:07:22,606
to liberal media."
1614
01:07:22,606 --> 01:07:25,175
As if there was no such thing
as the conservative media.
1615
01:07:25,175 --> 01:07:29,546
If you analyze news coverage,
as fair has done,
1616
01:07:29,546 --> 01:07:31,548
you find that
the news tilts
1617
01:07:31,548 --> 01:07:33,117
a little bit
to the right.
1618
01:07:33,117 --> 01:07:34,484
It's sort of centre-right.
1619
01:07:34,484 --> 01:07:36,286
Republicans usually
outnumber democrats.
1620
01:07:36,286 --> 01:07:38,122
It's just pure math.
1621
01:07:38,122 --> 01:07:40,257
And then people say, "well,
why do so many people believe
1622
01:07:40,257 --> 01:07:41,625
the liberal media myth?"
1623
01:07:41,625 --> 01:07:44,528
If you keep handing
opinion-shaping power
1624
01:07:44,528 --> 01:07:46,830
to right wingers,
who don't have evidence
1625
01:07:46,830 --> 01:07:48,832
to yell about,
"oh, liberals, the liberals,
1626
01:07:48,832 --> 01:07:50,667
the liberals,
the liberals who done..."
1627
01:07:50,667 --> 01:07:52,269
well, it's gonna
have some traction.
1628
01:07:52,269 --> 01:07:53,270
The liberal media.
1629
01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:54,271
Liberal media?
1630
01:07:54,271 --> 01:07:55,272
Liberal bias.
1631
01:07:55,272 --> 01:07:56,640
Liberal media folk.
1632
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,276
- Liberal press.
- It is the liberal media.
1633
01:07:59,276 --> 01:08:02,646
And so,
he watches Fox News,
1634
01:08:02,646 --> 01:08:07,751
and he says to me,
"Fox News tells the stories
1635
01:08:07,751 --> 01:08:11,655
that the liberal media
does not want to air.
1636
01:08:11,655 --> 01:08:13,890
And I think,
1637
01:08:13,890 --> 01:08:16,693
"yeah. But Fox News
makes stuff up."
1638
01:08:16,693 --> 01:08:18,228
You know?
1639
01:08:18,228 --> 01:08:19,863
So, no wonder
you can hear things there
1640
01:08:19,863 --> 01:08:21,865
that you won't hear
in the so-called,
1641
01:08:21,865 --> 01:08:22,799
"liberal media."
1642
01:08:26,403 --> 01:08:27,871
Language is not neutral.
1643
01:08:27,871 --> 01:08:30,240
And in politics,
it's anything but neutral.
1644
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,909
This became professionalized
in 1994.
1645
01:08:32,909 --> 01:08:36,446
When Newt Gingrich
hired Frank Luntz.
1646
01:08:36,446 --> 01:08:38,715
Frank is the genius
right wing wordsmith
1647
01:08:38,715 --> 01:08:40,317
who taught Republicans to,
1648
01:08:40,317 --> 01:08:42,919
instead of saying,
"estate tax,"
1649
01:08:42,919 --> 01:08:44,788
say "death tax."
1650
01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:48,558
So, you have managed
to shift popular
1651
01:08:48,558 --> 01:08:52,296
opinion on a lot of unpopular,
everyday concepts,
1652
01:08:52,296 --> 01:08:54,398
like inherited wealth,
1653
01:08:54,398 --> 01:08:56,466
by labeling it,
the "death tax."
1654
01:08:56,466 --> 01:08:58,835
I have fought over
the validity
1655
01:08:58,835 --> 01:09:00,337
of the "death tax"
1656
01:09:00,337 --> 01:09:03,273
since I started
working in this space.
1657
01:09:03,273 --> 01:09:04,441
And I went out
and tested it.
1658
01:09:04,441 --> 01:09:06,710
And my god,
1659
01:09:06,710 --> 01:09:08,378
it changed the dynamic
1660
01:09:08,378 --> 01:09:10,780
of how people
looked at policy.
1661
01:09:10,780 --> 01:09:12,249
Instead of saying,
"poor people,"
1662
01:09:12,249 --> 01:09:13,617
say, "the takers."
1663
01:09:13,617 --> 01:09:15,652
Did I say,
"don't tax rich people"?
1664
01:09:15,652 --> 01:09:18,288
I meant,
encourage the job creators.
1665
01:09:18,288 --> 01:09:20,857
What's the difference
between drilling for oil,
1666
01:09:20,857 --> 01:09:23,260
and energy exploration?
1667
01:09:23,260 --> 01:09:25,929
Nothing, except one sounds
like something assholes do,
1668
01:09:25,929 --> 01:09:28,865
and one sounds
like Indiana Jones.
1669
01:09:28,865 --> 01:09:30,500
Did I say, "don't let
black people vote"?
1670
01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:33,637
I meant, clamp down
on voter fraud.
1671
01:09:33,637 --> 01:09:35,572
Healthcare reform,
everyone likes that.
1672
01:09:38,408 --> 01:09:39,843
So I asked him,
which frightens you more,
1673
01:09:39,843 --> 01:09:41,645
government control
or government takeover?
1674
01:09:41,645 --> 01:09:42,979
Oh, clearly,
government takeover.
1675
01:09:42,979 --> 01:09:45,282
Oh, I think
it was 27 out of 30.
1676
01:09:45,282 --> 01:09:46,850
That's it.
1677
01:09:46,850 --> 01:09:48,618
Once the word
is decided on,
1678
01:09:48,618 --> 01:09:50,320
every single republican,
1679
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,389
from
the presidential contenders,
1680
01:09:52,389 --> 01:09:54,458
on down
to the feces throwers
1681
01:09:54,458 --> 01:09:56,760
on hate radio.
1682
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,862
All chant it
like "rain man"
1683
01:09:58,862 --> 01:10:00,297
over and over
1684
01:10:00,297 --> 01:10:02,399
until it's beaten
into our skulls.
1685
01:10:13,410 --> 01:10:15,645
"...and when they can't
think rationally,
1686
01:10:15,645 --> 01:10:17,547
they'll believe anything."
1687
01:10:17,547 --> 01:10:19,883
Fox News is built on
this formula,
1688
01:10:19,883 --> 01:10:22,452
of just getting people
really, really angry.
1689
01:10:22,452 --> 01:10:24,621
It's this phony,
outrage machine.
1690
01:10:24,621 --> 01:10:25,822
Particularly on Fox News,
1691
01:10:25,822 --> 01:10:27,424
I mean,
they really are actors.
1692
01:10:27,424 --> 01:10:29,659
Acting about
how outraged they are.
1693
01:10:29,659 --> 01:10:32,429
Give me
one damn program...
1694
01:10:32,429 --> 01:10:33,963
Is anybody else a little
pissed off by that?
1695
01:10:33,963 --> 01:10:35,799
Obama attacks America.
1696
01:10:35,799 --> 01:10:37,434
I'm more angry about it
than you are.
1697
01:10:37,434 --> 01:10:40,404
I told you
that you need to be afraid
1698
01:10:40,404 --> 01:10:42,472
because they are coming
for you.
1699
01:10:42,472 --> 01:10:44,007
Isis coming into America.
1700
01:10:44,007 --> 01:10:45,575
I would bet my life
on the fact.
1701
01:10:45,575 --> 01:10:46,876
They're already here.
1702
01:10:46,876 --> 01:10:48,712
And I have caught
these people before,
1703
01:10:48,712 --> 01:10:50,647
and I've seen qurans
prayer rugs, you name it.
1704
01:10:50,647 --> 01:10:52,282
They're already here.
1705
01:10:52,282 --> 01:10:53,983
"A self-styled
militia patrolling
1706
01:10:53,983 --> 01:10:55,719
the Mexican-U.S. border,
1707
01:10:55,719 --> 01:10:58,455
contacted Breitbart.com,
and relayed the discovery
1708
01:10:58,455 --> 01:11:00,424
of the 'rug' Monday night,
1709
01:11:00,424 --> 01:11:02,726
just south
of the Sierra Vista
1710
01:11:02,726 --> 01:11:05,362
in Coronado
National Forest."
1711
01:11:05,362 --> 01:11:06,996
You wanna know
what it turned out to be?
1712
01:11:06,996 --> 01:11:09,499
An Adidas Jersey.
1713
01:11:09,499 --> 01:11:11,468
Isis, I mean,
you know, they're here.
1714
01:11:11,468 --> 01:11:13,503
- They're here.
- You think they're here?
1715
01:11:13,503 --> 01:11:16,072
Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I think they're
waiting for the whistle to blow.
1716
01:11:16,072 --> 01:11:17,707
They're gonna come out,
and take over.
1717
01:11:19,008 --> 01:11:20,844
I think they will.
I really think they do.
1718
01:11:20,844 --> 01:11:22,379
I'm scared for the country.
1719
01:11:25,549 --> 01:11:27,551
The effect of bullying
is simple.
1720
01:11:27,551 --> 01:11:29,386
It operates on two levels.
1721
01:11:29,386 --> 01:11:32,489
One, is it shuts the guest up
if they're making a point
1722
01:11:32,489 --> 01:11:35,525
that the bullier doesn't want
the audience to hear.
1723
01:11:35,525 --> 01:11:37,794
Is Hamas...
What part of this
1724
01:11:37,794 --> 01:11:39,763
-can't you get through your thick head?
- I think...
1725
01:11:39,763 --> 01:11:42,499
-is Hamas a terrorist organization?
- Excuse me?
1726
01:11:42,499 --> 01:11:44,634
- An orbital eye socket fracture...
-well, that... okay.
1727
01:11:44,634 --> 01:11:47,103
And eyewitnesses say that
Michael brown charged at him.
1728
01:11:47,103 --> 01:11:48,772
- You weren't there.
- Oh, I'm sorry, I...
1729
01:11:48,772 --> 01:11:50,507
I believe you cut
my mic off.
1730
01:11:50,507 --> 01:11:52,442
And two, the fake outrage
1731
01:11:52,442 --> 01:11:54,411
makes the bullier
look justified,
1732
01:11:54,411 --> 01:11:55,712
as they try to shame
1733
01:11:55,712 --> 01:11:57,714
their frustrated guest
into silence.
1734
01:11:57,714 --> 01:11:59,949
...understand, you've got an agenda here.
We just think...
1735
01:11:59,949 --> 01:12:02,619
- We don't have an agenda.
- ...that the American people ought to know...
1736
01:12:02,619 --> 01:12:05,455
I understand you don't like it,
1737
01:12:05,455 --> 01:12:08,091
and sometimes your candidate has complained about it.
- Okay, go ahead.
1738
01:12:11,561 --> 01:12:12,962
...but Fox News
reports it straight,
1739
01:12:12,962 --> 01:12:14,531
fair and balanced,
as always.
1740
01:12:14,531 --> 01:12:16,600
Bill Burton.
Thanks so much for being here.
1741
01:12:19,135 --> 01:12:21,004
And he listens
to Rush Limbaugh.
1742
01:12:21,004 --> 01:12:23,940
They have on Fox News
in almost every room.
1743
01:12:23,940 --> 01:12:25,575
Fox News, 24-7.
1744
01:12:25,575 --> 01:12:27,110
I guess
we're just watching
1745
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:29,012
talking heads
all day on Fox News.
1746
01:12:29,012 --> 01:12:30,714
All the homes
in their neighborhood,
1747
01:12:30,714 --> 01:12:33,149
are tuned into Fox News,
all the time.
1748
01:12:33,149 --> 01:12:35,084
Fox News is on 24-7.
1749
01:12:35,084 --> 01:12:37,153
Rush Limbaugh
is on five days a week.
1750
01:12:37,153 --> 01:12:39,623
There's Michael Savage,
Alex Jones,
1751
01:12:39,623 --> 01:12:40,690
"The Mark Levin Show",
1752
01:12:40,690 --> 01:12:41,891
the "New York Post",
1753
01:12:41,891 --> 01:12:43,560
"The Wall Street Journal" op-ed,
1754
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,161
the "Drudge Report",
"The Weekly Standard",
1755
01:12:45,161 --> 01:12:46,396
"Newsmax",
"Breitbart",
1756
01:12:46,396 --> 01:12:47,597
"American spectator",
1757
01:12:47,597 --> 01:12:49,833
"Tea Party Express,"
and then there's
1758
01:12:49,833 --> 01:12:52,035
the avalanche
of conservative e-mails.
1759
01:12:52,035 --> 01:12:54,871
Fox News can be found
in hospitals,
1760
01:12:54,871 --> 01:12:57,173
bus stations,
gyms, airports,
1761
01:12:57,173 --> 01:12:59,108
even bars
and restaurants.
1762
01:12:59,108 --> 01:13:02,446
The primary TV outlet
for the right is Fox,
1763
01:13:02,446 --> 01:13:04,448
and their audience is loyal.
1764
01:13:04,448 --> 01:13:05,949
How loyal?
1765
01:13:05,949 --> 01:13:08,418
Consistent liberals
have an array of news sources
1766
01:13:08,418 --> 01:13:09,986
according to pew research.
1767
01:13:09,986 --> 01:13:13,156
Whereas, 47%
of consistent conservatives
1768
01:13:13,156 --> 01:13:16,760
tightly cluster
around Fox News.
1769
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,562
As far
as talk radio goes,
1770
01:13:18,562 --> 01:13:21,431
roughly 97%
of talk radio stations
1771
01:13:21,431 --> 01:13:22,566
are conservative,
1772
01:13:22,566 --> 01:13:26,670
while only 3%
are progressive.
1773
01:13:26,670 --> 01:13:28,738
Carol Wallin told me
that Rush Limbaugh
1774
01:13:28,738 --> 01:13:31,475
is being played
on military bases.
1775
01:13:31,475 --> 01:13:33,009
I wanted to know
how that happened.
1776
01:13:34,077 --> 01:13:36,613
In 1993,
1777
01:13:36,613 --> 01:13:38,882
representative
Robert Dornan,
1778
01:13:38,882 --> 01:13:40,116
gathered up 70
1779
01:13:40,116 --> 01:13:43,019
of his closest
representative friends.
1780
01:13:43,019 --> 01:13:44,621
He thought it was
really important
1781
01:13:44,621 --> 01:13:46,189
that Rush Limbaugh
be played
1782
01:13:46,189 --> 01:13:47,957
on the armed forces network.
1783
01:13:47,957 --> 01:13:52,095
That this was absolutely
a necessity.
1784
01:13:52,095 --> 01:13:55,465
But Robert Dornan himself,
is famous for the fact
1785
01:13:55,465 --> 01:13:58,234
that he grabbed
another representative's tie,
1786
01:13:58,234 --> 01:14:00,136
on the floor
of the house,
1787
01:14:00,136 --> 01:14:01,738
and threatened him
with bodily harm.
1788
01:14:04,608 --> 01:14:05,842
It's not just language,
1789
01:14:05,842 --> 01:14:06,910
it's also visuals.
1790
01:14:06,910 --> 01:14:08,612
In his book,
1791
01:14:08,612 --> 01:14:12,448
"state of confusion,"
doctor Bryant Welch says...
1792
01:14:16,886 --> 01:14:18,755
"...and a seemingly
constant state
1793
01:14:18,755 --> 01:14:22,125
of news crises
created by 'Fox News alerts.'"
1794
01:14:22,125 --> 01:14:24,093
then, there are
the more graphic images,
1795
01:14:24,093 --> 01:14:26,963
that strongly suggest a point
they want to make.
1796
01:14:26,963 --> 01:14:28,498
That image
looks like it's saying
1797
01:14:28,498 --> 01:14:31,701
that Hamas and Hollywood
are one in the same.
1798
01:14:31,701 --> 01:14:32,836
Ouch.
1799
01:14:32,836 --> 01:14:34,270
Sometimes,
a camera movement
1800
01:14:34,270 --> 01:14:36,540
is used to distract.
1801
01:14:36,540 --> 01:14:38,207
On Fox,
the colors are vivid,
1802
01:14:38,207 --> 01:14:40,610
and the graphics
are overwhelming.
1803
01:14:40,610 --> 01:14:43,046
It is more stimulating
than most other news shows.
1804
01:14:43,046 --> 01:14:45,649
It creates a mood
that mesmerizes it's audience
1805
01:14:45,649 --> 01:14:47,216
and holds them captive.
1806
01:14:47,216 --> 01:14:48,718
Then,
while they're captive,
1807
01:14:48,718 --> 01:14:50,954
and overwhelmed,
and maybe a bit confused,
1808
01:14:50,954 --> 01:14:52,556
they have someone
like Bill O'Reilly,
1809
01:14:52,556 --> 01:14:54,023
or Sean Hannity,
1810
01:14:54,023 --> 01:14:56,092
with their confidence
and passion and certitude,
1811
01:14:56,092 --> 01:14:57,894
telling them
who they should blame
1812
01:14:57,894 --> 01:15:00,730
for their confusion
and uncertainty.
1813
01:15:00,730 --> 01:15:02,932
Each one of these gestures
that I have,
1814
01:15:02,932 --> 01:15:05,835
helps communicate
an idea or a principle,
1815
01:15:05,835 --> 01:15:08,572
a thought,
a fact, an emotion.
1816
01:15:08,572 --> 01:15:09,806
If you start
with one hand first,
1817
01:15:09,806 --> 01:15:11,007
and then you get the two,
1818
01:15:11,007 --> 01:15:12,542
you count off
with your finger,
1819
01:15:12,542 --> 01:15:13,843
one, two, three.
1820
01:15:13,843 --> 01:15:15,178
The audience
that you're speaking to
1821
01:15:15,178 --> 01:15:17,013
is actually
counting with you.
1822
01:15:20,283 --> 01:15:21,785
My dad started changing
1823
01:15:21,785 --> 01:15:24,053
when, you know,
this guy called Glenn Beck
1824
01:15:24,053 --> 01:15:25,622
came on the air.
1825
01:15:25,622 --> 01:15:27,824
And now he... he expects
there's supposed to be
1826
01:15:27,824 --> 01:15:29,826
some sort of civil war
next year.
1827
01:15:29,826 --> 01:15:32,562
- He buys a lot of ammo, a lot of guns...
- Why?
1828
01:15:32,562 --> 01:15:35,932
What does he expect
Obama to do?
1829
01:15:35,932 --> 01:15:38,067
I don't know,
take over the world.
1830
01:15:38,067 --> 01:15:41,938
He believes Obama
and his administration
1831
01:15:41,938 --> 01:15:43,773
is buying up all the ammo.
1832
01:15:43,773 --> 01:15:46,242
And so, that's why
they had me buy the ammo,
1833
01:15:46,242 --> 01:15:47,977
before the government
gets it all.
1834
01:16:22,311 --> 01:16:26,215
Black lives matter.
1835
01:16:26,215 --> 01:16:27,751
The savage mind,
1836
01:16:27,751 --> 01:16:30,754
will respond to,
uh, to authority,
1837
01:16:30,754 --> 01:16:32,188
if they are convinced
1838
01:16:32,188 --> 01:16:34,858
that that authority
is serious.
1839
01:16:38,728 --> 01:16:40,163
This is important
for all of us.
1840
01:16:40,163 --> 01:16:41,364
And we are tired,
1841
01:16:41,364 --> 01:16:43,266
we want to come out
of the shadows.
1842
01:16:43,266 --> 01:16:45,334
You have other people
at the border
1843
01:16:45,334 --> 01:16:46,736
who are here illegally,
1844
01:16:46,736 --> 01:16:48,271
who are crossing
over the border,
1845
01:16:48,271 --> 01:16:50,073
and they're very much
out of the shadows.
1846
01:16:50,073 --> 01:16:51,775
A long time
ago, the feminazis
1847
01:16:51,775 --> 01:16:54,110
began their quest to make
women more like men.
1848
01:16:54,110 --> 01:16:55,745
Acquire power like us,
1849
01:16:55,745 --> 01:16:57,180
have careers like us,
all that...
1850
01:17:02,018 --> 01:17:05,822
Believe scientists? No!
1851
01:17:05,822 --> 01:17:07,423
All flights from west Africa
1852
01:17:07,423 --> 01:17:09,058
should immediately
be discontinued
1853
01:17:09,058 --> 01:17:10,960
these guns
don't fire themselves.
1854
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,196
Don't we have to deal with mental health...
1855
01:17:13,196 --> 01:17:14,964
...parenting.
1856
01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:28,978
Well, how did you
start turning away
1857
01:17:28,978 --> 01:17:30,980
from Rush Limbaugh?
1858
01:17:30,980 --> 01:17:32,682
In the late 90's,
1859
01:17:32,682 --> 01:17:35,018
just playing around
with the radio dial,
1860
01:17:35,018 --> 01:17:36,219
I found a, uh,
1861
01:17:36,219 --> 01:17:38,021
I was driving
to work one week,
1862
01:17:38,021 --> 01:17:40,123
I had to work on a Saturday,
had to be there about noon.
1863
01:17:40,123 --> 01:17:41,758
And, playing around
with the radio dial,
1864
01:17:41,758 --> 01:17:44,160
I found a very,
very, funny show.
1865
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,394
They sound like
this is a lot of fun
1866
01:17:45,394 --> 01:17:46,930
to listen to.
1867
01:17:46,930 --> 01:17:48,431
It was "wait, wait,
don't tell me," on NPR.
1868
01:17:48,431 --> 01:17:50,266
Never really listened
to it before.
1869
01:17:50,266 --> 01:17:52,869
And I discovered
1870
01:17:52,869 --> 01:17:54,738
they had great shows
on the weekends.
1871
01:17:54,738 --> 01:17:56,072
And then,
through the week,
1872
01:17:56,072 --> 01:17:57,974
I stopped listening
to Hannity at 3:00,
1873
01:17:57,974 --> 01:17:59,976
to switch over
to "all things considered."
1874
01:17:59,976 --> 01:18:01,377
I... I'm not gonna
sit here and say NPR
1875
01:18:01,377 --> 01:18:04,413
has a left slant
or... or a liberal bias,
1876
01:18:04,413 --> 01:18:06,182
but I think
their journalism is solid
1877
01:18:06,182 --> 01:18:10,386
and I started basically
comparing the quality
1878
01:18:10,386 --> 01:18:12,889
of what... of how
the information is presented
1879
01:18:12,889 --> 01:18:16,359
and what I was being told,
as opposed to,
1880
01:18:16,359 --> 01:18:17,794
well, I guess
I could start seeing
1881
01:18:17,794 --> 01:18:18,995
the right wing talk radio
1882
01:18:18,995 --> 01:18:21,197
as what it is,
sheer propaganda.
1883
01:18:21,197 --> 01:18:23,800
We went about trying
to deprogram these people.
1884
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,268
I mean there's one thing
1885
01:18:25,268 --> 01:18:27,336
that you didn't have
to worry about at dittohead
1886
01:18:27,336 --> 01:18:30,173
is knowing about the study
at Tufts University
1887
01:18:30,173 --> 01:18:31,474
saying a woman's bra size,
1888
01:18:31,474 --> 01:18:32,909
you know,
the bigger her bra size,
1889
01:18:32,909 --> 01:18:34,243
the lower her I.Q.
1890
01:18:34,243 --> 01:18:36,012
You know, they'd heard
all these stories,
1891
01:18:36,012 --> 01:18:39,916
so, it was in some sense,
easy to open them up
1892
01:18:39,916 --> 01:18:41,885
when you say, "well,
you wanna know something?"
1893
01:18:41,885 --> 01:18:44,220
There was no study
at Tufts University.
1894
01:18:44,220 --> 01:18:45,955
You know that story
about Chelsea Clinton,
1895
01:18:45,955 --> 01:18:47,290
Hilary and Bill Clinton's
daughter,
1896
01:18:47,290 --> 01:18:49,258
being forced
to write an essay
1897
01:18:49,258 --> 01:18:51,761
"why I feel guilty
being white"?
1898
01:18:51,761 --> 01:18:53,229
There was no such essay.
1899
01:18:53,229 --> 01:18:54,964
There was no such
CBS News report
1900
01:18:54,964 --> 01:18:56,199
saying there was an essay.
1901
01:18:56,199 --> 01:18:58,034
So, this begins to,
1902
01:18:58,034 --> 01:19:00,436
you know
the deprogramming begins
1903
01:19:00,436 --> 01:19:02,171
when they realize
1904
01:19:02,171 --> 01:19:05,474
that so much of what
they believed, was not true.
1905
01:19:05,474 --> 01:19:07,010
What the book does,
1906
01:19:07,010 --> 01:19:09,813
is it basically goes after
Rush Limbaugh.
1907
01:19:09,813 --> 01:19:12,348
Looking at the things
that he has stated as facts
1908
01:19:12,348 --> 01:19:13,983
on his radio show.
1909
01:19:13,983 --> 01:19:16,152
And basically,
debunking them.
1910
01:19:16,152 --> 01:19:18,822
And, many of the pages
have the format, where,
1911
01:19:18,822 --> 01:19:21,257
it says, "Limbaugh:"
And then a quote,
1912
01:19:21,257 --> 01:19:25,494
and then, "reality:"
And then, our research.
1913
01:19:25,494 --> 01:19:27,964
Where it was
a highly technical
1914
01:19:27,964 --> 01:19:30,066
or scientific issue,
1915
01:19:30,066 --> 01:19:31,901
we'd go to experts
and get them
1916
01:19:31,901 --> 01:19:34,270
and we'd quote them,
debunking Limbaugh
1917
01:19:34,270 --> 01:19:37,440
and, it had a...
It had a tremendous effect.
1918
01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:39,542
The name of our group
is Flush Rush.
1919
01:19:39,542 --> 01:19:42,846
We listen to radio stations
all over the country,
1920
01:19:42,846 --> 01:19:45,581
to monitor advertisers
of Rush Limbaugh,
1921
01:19:45,581 --> 01:19:47,817
and there's usually
hundreds of us,
1922
01:19:47,817 --> 01:19:48,885
from all over the country.
1923
01:19:48,885 --> 01:19:51,287
Over 3,000 advertisers.
1924
01:19:51,287 --> 01:19:54,557
Are no longer aired
on Rush Limbaugh's station.
1925
01:19:54,557 --> 01:19:56,860
What we call for,
is we what reform,
1926
01:19:56,860 --> 01:19:58,294
and restructuring.
1927
01:19:58,294 --> 01:19:59,963
So, where it can be done,
1928
01:19:59,963 --> 01:20:01,965
we would like to see
more progressive shows,
1929
01:20:01,965 --> 01:20:04,868
more balance,
more working people.
1930
01:20:04,868 --> 01:20:06,302
The voices
of working people
1931
01:20:06,302 --> 01:20:08,471
in our commercial
and our public broadcasting.
1932
01:20:08,471 --> 01:20:11,340
I mean, it's just amazing
that public broadcasting
1933
01:20:11,340 --> 01:20:13,209
has almost no voices
1934
01:20:13,209 --> 01:20:14,543
of disenfranchised people
in it.
1935
01:20:14,543 --> 01:20:17,113
That's one of the beauties
of wikileaks.
1936
01:20:17,113 --> 01:20:21,284
Wikileaks is really
a form of journalism
1937
01:20:21,284 --> 01:20:24,520
that's desperately needed
in the existing system.
1938
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:28,892
Because the mainstream media
won't collect and report data
1939
01:20:28,892 --> 01:20:30,559
such as wiki-leaks
will collect.
1940
01:20:30,559 --> 01:20:32,628
You have to have
masses of people
1941
01:20:32,628 --> 01:20:37,100
organizing and... and...
Putting pressure on
1942
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:39,402
really, what it amounts to
is a revolution.
1943
01:20:39,402 --> 01:20:41,037
I mean, you know,
some kind of,
1944
01:20:41,037 --> 01:20:44,207
political, economic,
social revolution
1945
01:20:44,207 --> 01:20:47,143
because you have
a powerfully embedded system
1946
01:20:47,143 --> 01:20:49,012
to change it significantly,
1947
01:20:49,012 --> 01:20:51,580
changing the media
significantly.
1948
01:20:51,580 --> 01:20:54,951
You have to have
people organized,
1949
01:20:54,951 --> 01:20:56,485
and... and force a change.
1950
01:21:01,157 --> 01:21:02,658
There was
so much misinformation
1951
01:21:02,658 --> 01:21:04,227
that you had
to Wade through.
1952
01:21:04,227 --> 01:21:06,062
That, we felt like,
it was really important
1953
01:21:06,062 --> 01:21:07,563
to... to finally
take that on directly,
1954
01:21:07,563 --> 01:21:10,033
so much of the work that we do
around different issues,
1955
01:21:10,033 --> 01:21:13,336
is around putting out fires,
responding to this attack,
1956
01:21:13,336 --> 01:21:15,271
or this bad Bill
motivated by
1957
01:21:15,271 --> 01:21:17,206
far-right ideologues.
1958
01:21:17,206 --> 01:21:19,075
This is a problem
that a whole lot of people
1959
01:21:19,075 --> 01:21:20,509
are dealing with
in different states,
1960
01:21:20,509 --> 01:21:22,445
in different cities,
in different communities.
1961
01:21:22,445 --> 01:21:24,280
So, you know, we're working
at the grassroots,
1962
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:25,915
we're working
one-on-one with people,
1963
01:21:25,915 --> 01:21:28,317
around their specific issues
and situations
1964
01:21:28,317 --> 01:21:29,385
to help them
deal with that,
1965
01:21:29,385 --> 01:21:30,653
because, you know,
1966
01:21:30,653 --> 01:21:32,388
these kind of changes
have to happen
1967
01:21:32,388 --> 01:21:34,457
person by person,
family by family,
1968
01:21:34,457 --> 01:21:36,292
interaction by interaction.
1969
01:21:36,292 --> 01:21:38,094
What they say about
deprogramming,
1970
01:21:38,094 --> 01:21:39,996
specifically, I think,
you know, with cult folks
1971
01:21:39,996 --> 01:21:42,465
who get involved in cults...
1972
01:21:42,465 --> 01:21:47,070
The bubble of conspiracy,
or misinformation,
1973
01:21:47,070 --> 01:21:48,671
with one fact, right,
1974
01:21:48,671 --> 01:21:50,506
that that helps
the entire artifice,
1975
01:21:50,506 --> 01:21:52,341
ultimately crumble.
1976
01:21:52,341 --> 01:21:54,477
If you're wondering
what happened with my dad,
1977
01:21:54,477 --> 01:21:56,345
here's the story.
1978
01:21:56,345 --> 01:21:58,948
My parents moved
to a senior community,
1979
01:21:58,948 --> 01:22:00,349
and apparently
during the move,
1980
01:22:00,349 --> 01:22:02,585
my dad's
kitchen radio broke.
1981
01:22:02,585 --> 01:22:04,487
He never got around
to fixing it,
1982
01:22:04,487 --> 01:22:08,191
so it sat in the garage,
with the other broken radios.
1983
01:22:08,191 --> 01:22:11,227
My parents started
eating lunch together again.
1984
01:22:11,227 --> 01:22:12,962
But he still watched Fox,
1985
01:22:12,962 --> 01:22:14,497
and still got
the right wing e-mails
1986
01:22:14,497 --> 01:22:15,731
and snail mail.
1987
01:22:15,731 --> 01:22:17,500
When the TV
in the kitchen broke,
1988
01:22:17,500 --> 01:22:18,667
they got a new one,
1989
01:22:18,667 --> 01:22:21,104
and mom programmed
the remotes.
1990
01:22:21,104 --> 01:22:22,438
He didn't want
to bother to figure out
1991
01:22:22,438 --> 01:22:24,173
how how my mother
programmed them,
1992
01:22:24,173 --> 01:22:26,976
so he just watched
whatever my mother watched.
1993
01:22:26,976 --> 01:22:28,311
One time,
when he went in the hospital
1994
01:22:28,311 --> 01:22:29,512
for a kidney stone,
1995
01:22:29,512 --> 01:22:31,380
she asked me
to weed out his e-mails
1996
01:22:31,380 --> 01:22:33,416
to save some computer space.
1997
01:22:33,416 --> 01:22:35,251
When I told her
they just keep coming,
1998
01:22:35,251 --> 01:22:37,420
she decided
to unsubscribe him
1999
01:22:37,420 --> 01:22:40,356
from some of the more
extreme political e-mails.
2000
01:22:40,356 --> 01:22:42,058
But then she got the idea
2001
01:22:42,058 --> 01:22:44,727
of subscribing him to liberal
and Democratic ones,
2002
01:22:44,727 --> 01:22:47,196
but much to her surprise,
when he got back,
2003
01:22:47,196 --> 01:22:49,265
he started reading them.
2004
01:22:49,265 --> 01:22:50,566
What does he read now?
2005
01:22:50,566 --> 01:22:54,037
- "Truth out, RSN News."
- Oh.
2006
01:22:54,037 --> 01:22:56,672
- You know, all that stuff.
- Yeah.
2007
01:22:56,672 --> 01:22:58,741
I've been... I've been
listening
2008
01:22:58,741 --> 01:23:03,446
to Rush Limbaugh
for... quite a few years,
2009
01:23:03,446 --> 01:23:06,382
and of course, after I...
For some reason or another,
2010
01:23:06,382 --> 01:23:08,351
I don't know what happened,
2011
01:23:08,351 --> 01:23:11,054
I just somehow
got away from it,
2012
01:23:11,054 --> 01:23:12,488
and, then...
2013
01:23:12,488 --> 01:23:14,790
But before that, I was...
2014
01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:17,593
I was...
I had it on all the time,
2015
01:23:17,593 --> 01:23:21,664
the political chatter,
you know.
2016
01:23:21,664 --> 01:23:25,034
But, then I stopped.
2017
01:23:25,034 --> 01:23:28,704
He doesn't listen
to Rush Limbaugh anymore
2018
01:23:28,704 --> 01:23:32,541
and he doesn't listen
to Fox News.
2019
01:23:32,541 --> 01:23:34,310
Do you think
your political views
2020
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:37,580
-have changed?
- Halfway between republican
2021
01:23:37,580 --> 01:23:39,315
and... and democrat.
2022
01:23:39,315 --> 01:23:40,683
Oh.
2023
01:23:40,683 --> 01:23:44,420
I'm not all democrat,
I'm not all republican.
2024
01:23:44,420 --> 01:23:46,555
Do you believe
in the minimum wage?
2025
01:23:46,555 --> 01:23:48,391
Minimum wage, yes.
2026
01:23:48,391 --> 01:23:50,693
Do you believe
in personal freedoms?
2027
01:23:50,693 --> 01:23:53,362
Well, some people believe
that gay people
2028
01:23:53,362 --> 01:23:55,164
don't have the right
to get married,
2029
01:23:55,164 --> 01:23:57,466
and other people say,
"I couldn't care less,
2030
01:23:57,466 --> 01:23:59,668
let them get married
if they want to."
2031
01:23:59,668 --> 01:24:03,572
Well... I want to guess
if they want to do that,
2032
01:24:03,572 --> 01:24:05,808
then go ahead
and do it, yeah.
2033
01:24:05,808 --> 01:24:07,676
Yeah, that's the way I figure.
2034
01:24:07,676 --> 01:24:09,645
I spoke to uncle Frank
the other day.
2035
01:24:09,645 --> 01:24:12,848
It's hard to explain,
but just a...
2036
01:24:12,848 --> 01:24:14,617
A kindness in his voice.
2037
01:24:16,852 --> 01:24:18,521
Thank you.
2038
01:24:25,361 --> 01:24:26,762
Thank you.
2039
01:24:29,832 --> 01:24:31,634
- Oh, happy birthday.
- Is that Gene?
2040
01:24:31,634 --> 01:24:34,303
- Yes.
- I haven't seen you in so long.
2041
01:24:34,303 --> 01:24:36,139
- I know. How you been?
- I didn't recognize you.
2042
01:24:41,344 --> 01:24:45,248
The other day,
he surprised me.
2043
01:24:45,248 --> 01:24:48,351
President Obama was on,
and he said to me,
2044
01:24:48,351 --> 01:24:52,521
"you know,
I... I kinda like him."
2045
01:24:52,521 --> 01:24:54,457
And then later,
he said again,
2046
01:24:54,457 --> 01:24:58,427
at a different time,
"I like Obama."
2047
01:24:58,427 --> 01:25:00,763
I thought, "glory, be."
2048
01:25:00,763 --> 01:25:02,898
- He's a pretty good guy, Obama.
- Yeah, he's, you know...
2049
01:25:02,898 --> 01:25:04,733
He... he's doing
all right.
2050
01:25:04,733 --> 01:25:06,902
He's forgetting
all that other stuff
2051
01:25:06,902 --> 01:25:08,337
that he learned,
2052
01:25:09,505 --> 01:25:13,409
and I guess, whatever...
2053
01:25:15,244 --> 01:25:17,280
Mom would shut down
his computer at night,
2054
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:18,847
and she started
subscribing him
2055
01:25:18,847 --> 01:25:21,750
to "truthout,"
and "alternet,"
2056
01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:23,719
and "Reader Supported News".
2057
01:25:23,719 --> 01:25:25,554
Oh, and he would just
read whatever ended up
2058
01:25:25,554 --> 01:25:27,823
in his inbox?
- He just read everything.
2059
01:25:27,823 --> 01:25:30,693
He's an avid reader,
he sits at that computer,
2060
01:25:30,693 --> 01:25:32,595
and he reads whatever's
in front of him.
2061
01:25:32,595 --> 01:25:34,497
Well, that...
That's very interesting,
2062
01:25:34,497 --> 01:25:37,633
and... and see?
His thinking changed.
2063
01:25:37,633 --> 01:25:39,268
His policies
have totally changed.
2064
01:25:39,268 --> 01:25:42,371
- He voted for Obama.
- What?
2065
01:25:42,371 --> 01:25:44,540
He voted for Obama?
2066
01:25:44,540 --> 01:25:46,175
In these past couple years,
2067
01:25:46,175 --> 01:25:48,711
there's finally been
peace in our house.
2068
01:25:48,711 --> 01:25:52,681
My dad is more content
than I've ever seen him.
2069
01:25:52,681 --> 01:25:55,651
He's not angry,
he's not argumentative,
2070
01:25:55,651 --> 01:25:58,687
and he's really fun
the way he used to be.
2071
01:25:58,687 --> 01:26:00,423
And, we get along
really well,
2072
01:26:00,423 --> 01:26:01,924
and I dote on him.
2073
01:26:01,924 --> 01:26:05,794
In fact, I get along with him
better than I ever have.
2074
01:26:05,794 --> 01:26:08,697
And it's sort of
a bittersweet pill,
2075
01:26:08,697 --> 01:26:12,935
because I know
these are his last years,
2076
01:26:12,935 --> 01:26:16,472
but I'm happy
that he's happy.
2077
01:26:16,472 --> 01:26:20,309
He's my pal,
and I'm his.
2078
01:26:44,233 --> 01:26:47,403
So, that is the story
of Jen and her father.
2079
01:26:47,403 --> 01:26:51,807
Her father had changed into a person
none of them recognized or even liked.
2080
01:26:51,807 --> 01:26:53,309
A persistent wife,
2081
01:26:53,309 --> 01:26:55,644
who continued to challenge
her husband.
2082
01:26:55,644 --> 01:26:57,946
It eventually
made a difference.
2083
01:27:04,987 --> 01:27:07,490
It's a mixture
or Polish and Ukrainian.
2084
01:27:07,490 --> 01:27:09,958
I mix them a lot.
2085
01:27:09,958 --> 01:27:12,595
You used to be
very fanatical.
2086
01:27:12,595 --> 01:27:14,263
- Yes.
- Yeah.
2087
01:27:14,263 --> 01:27:16,365
I listened to him
for a long time, huh?
2088
01:27:16,365 --> 01:27:17,533
Yeah.
2089
01:27:17,533 --> 01:27:18,734
But you're not as...
2090
01:27:18,734 --> 01:27:21,404
You're not as fanatical
as that anymore.
2091
01:27:21,404 --> 01:27:23,506
So, that's what
the movie is about.
2092
01:27:23,506 --> 01:27:28,344
Is about how you used to be
very fanatical,
2093
01:27:28,344 --> 01:27:30,913
and now
you're much better.
2094
01:27:30,913 --> 01:27:34,317
I... I think
I'd like to see that.
2095
01:27:38,754 --> 01:27:42,525
- Yeah, you'll... you'll see it, dad.
- Yeah?
2096
01:27:49,832 --> 01:27:54,069
♪ well, they learned
about Santa a long time ago ♪
2097
01:27:54,069 --> 01:28:00,008
♪ little bunnies at Easter
and pink unicorns ♪
2098
01:28:00,008 --> 01:28:05,614
♪ tiny tooth fairies
have lost their appeal ♪
2099
01:28:05,614 --> 01:28:09,552
♪ but they still think
Fox News is real ♪
2100
01:28:09,552 --> 01:28:13,656
♪ my parents think
Fox News is real ♪
2101
01:28:13,656 --> 01:28:15,391
♪ I tried to explain
2102
01:28:15,391 --> 01:28:18,894
♪ but they just
won't sit still ♪
2103
01:28:18,894 --> 01:28:21,096
♪ all that jumping
and shouting ♪
2104
01:28:21,096 --> 01:28:24,800
♪ has put them off-keel
2105
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:28,671
♪ and my parents
think Fox News is real ♪
2106
01:28:28,671 --> 01:28:30,706
♪ well, now,
Bill's not your buddy ♪
2107
01:28:30,706 --> 01:28:32,841
♪ and the five
aren't your friends ♪
2108
01:28:32,841 --> 01:28:34,577
♪ they're in it for money
2109
01:28:34,577 --> 01:28:38,647
♪ they're just
talking heads ♪
2110
01:28:38,647 --> 01:28:44,019
♪ once was a time
when I was amused ♪
2111
01:28:44,019 --> 01:28:48,023
♪ but now someone needs
to give them the news ♪
2112
01:28:48,023 --> 01:28:52,395
♪ my parents think
Fox News is real ♪
2113
01:28:52,395 --> 01:28:54,029
♪ I tried to explain
2114
01:28:54,029 --> 01:28:57,466
♪ but they just
won't sit still ♪
2115
01:28:57,466 --> 01:28:59,835
♪ all that jumping
and shouting ♪
2116
01:28:59,835 --> 01:29:03,506
♪ has put them off-keel
2117
01:29:03,506 --> 01:29:07,576
♪ and my parents
think Fox News is real ♪
2118
01:29:07,576 --> 01:29:09,778
♪ well, now,
if I could change things ♪
2119
01:29:09,778 --> 01:29:11,747
♪ you know that I would
2120
01:29:11,747 --> 01:29:17,586
♪ but banging your head
on a rock can't be good ♪
2121
01:29:17,586 --> 01:29:22,925
♪ maybe just singing
this song is a start ♪
2122
01:29:22,925 --> 01:29:27,095
♪ so, for now, I'll just say,
"Bless their heart." ♪
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