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I'm a songwriter,
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singer songwriter, you know,
and I'm not...
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by any stretch
of the imagination,
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George Strait. Hell, no.
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When I figured out he could
sing better than I could,
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and he loved my songs,
I thought, there you go.
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That's the ticket.
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You write the song,
let him sing it.
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♪ Flowed through my veins
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♪ Since I was born
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♪ Turns you cold
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♪ Keeps you warm
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♪ There's no escape,
it won't leave you alone ♪
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♪ When you're a song
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♪ You're so blessed
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♪ Yet so cursed
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♪ 'Cause every breath
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♪ Is another verse
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♪ You hurt like hell
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♪ The whole world sings along
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♪ When you're a song
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♪ Goodbye, farewell
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♪ So long
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♪ Vaya con Dios, good luck
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♪ Wish you well
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♪ Take it slow
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♪ Easy come, girl, easy go.
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You know, Dean and I, you know,
we've had a special relationship,
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no doubt about it.
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The only other relationship,
you know, that I can think of
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is Elton John and Bernie Taupin.
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Dean Dillon and George Strait
are brothers.
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They've been brothers
since they were both born.
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He has a way
of making you relive...
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He-he's almost like a
therapy session, in a way.
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If you listen to a Dean
Dillon song, he will make you
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relive all the bad stuff
in your life,
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all the good stuff in your life,
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and at the end you're okay.
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He was one of the guys
I aspired to.
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I wanted to be like that.
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And I came outta Texas
worshiping Guy Clark
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and Towns and those guys,
and Dean had that kinda
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cool soft spoken sensibility
and those great rhymes.
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When we would hang
out at somebody's house
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or in a bar or something in
Texas, we would talk about
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Dean Dillon being
this genius songwriter,
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I mean it was just like
somebody beyond
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that you would never meet
and that was like, you know,
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lived in the clouds and
that would never happen.
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Dean's just a...
Dean's a first rate song writer.
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He's-he's top of my list.
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♪ Vaya con Dios, good luck
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You know, George is here tonight
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at T-Mobile arena
in Las Vegas, Nevada.
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Gonna get up tonight and
sing a couple songs with him.
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You know, always a thrill to
hear him do one of my songs.
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It never gets old.
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Pink room.
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Just perfect for a
tough man to wear pink.
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There you go.
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All my fault.
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We're gonna rock the hell
out of it.
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I want you to welcome my
friend, Mr. Dean Dillon today.
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I was unaware,
when I first moved to town
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of George Strait. One of the
first songs I ever heard
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of George Strait's,
and it might've been his
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first single, I'm not sure.
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But I was a freshman
in high school,
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and I heard a song
called "Unwound."
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♪ That woman that I had
wrapped around my finger ♪
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♪ Just come unwound
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I didn't know Dean
wrote that song,
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but I knew I loved George's
record, I loved it.
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♪ That woman that's been wrapped
around my finger just come unwound ♪
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Then I found out who wrote it
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and that's where I, after that,
just about every song
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you heard of George's, you found
out Dean wrote that song.
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Living, breathing,
he's the greatest songwriter
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in this city,
there is no doubt about it.
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I was here and got to see
the last of these guys,
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and I called 'em giants
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that got to roam Music Row.
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And hopefully I got to
be in the room with 'em.
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And the only thing
I needed to do
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was to stand back and keep
my fucking mouth shut.
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When this community talks
about the 1% of songwriters,
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the top 1%, Dean Dillon's
been in that top 1%
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for more than 30 years.
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I don't even know if
Dean knows how important
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he was to my career.
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I'd had, "Maybe It was Memphis,"
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which was a song of the year.
My song of the year.
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But you're looking for
that thing to get you
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over the sophomore slump.
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So second album, I got with Dean
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and we wrote "Spilled Perfume,"
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and that was
my first platinum record.
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♪ There's no use crying
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♪ Over spilled perfume
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Dean has a way of
writing really simple songs
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that said everything.
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And there is a genius to that,
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that it's, uh,
you can't put your finger on.
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You can't sit there and say,
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you can't say, okay,
this is how you write songs,
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because nobody knows
how to do it but Dean.
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I just don't see that
in country music today.
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I mean, yeah, there's a lot of
people
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that go to Dean for songs,
but I don't know
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how many of 'em have his
songs on every record
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they ever recorded.
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Spent my whole life doing it,
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and there's nothing
else to do, in my book.
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I'm not gonna do anything else.
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Or I can't do anything else.
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I guess I could, but I don't
think I'd be very good at it.
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We were dirt poor.
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My mother was a waitress
in a truck stop.
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She met my dad there
at the restaurant.
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He was a long haul trucker.
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He was 40 years old
and she was 18.
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And my grandfather, Bryce Field,
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He didn't particularly like
that scenario.
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Two weeks after I was born,
my dad came to see me
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for the first time.
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He came in off the road, he'd
been out on the road driving
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and pulled down the driveway,
this old gravel drive...
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and the minute he pulled
up next to the house,
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my grandfather stepped out
on the porch
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and had a shotgun.
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And he pulled
the first trigger...
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and hit him in the arm.
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He threw up his arm,
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and he hit him here in the arm,
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pulled the other trigger,
and knocked the gun barrel
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up in the air
or he'd a killed him.
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He was just that kinda guy,
my grandfather was.
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Uh, and my dad, he threw that car
in reverse, never came back.
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And hell, I can't blame him.
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If there was
that kinda bad blood
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between my grandfather
and my father,
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then I don't believe
I would've stayed
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in that situation, either,
but shortly after that,
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she got divorced and so
my grandparents raised me.
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The way he grew up and
the hardships that he had
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to face, you know, growing up,
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certainly influenced
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the way that he wrote
and writes.
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When you're as creative
as Dean Dillon is,
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and when you live
inside your own insanity
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like Dean does, I believe...
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you channel everything
that happened to you
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as a young man and as a young
person that gave you fuel
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to go and try to create
something beautiful
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and wonderful and extraordinary.
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When I was five years old,
my mom remarried.
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And they came and
got me and took me
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to Melvindale, Michigan,
and it broke my heart.
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Because I had been raised
with my uncles,
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when they told me we were
moving back to Tennessee,
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I jumped up for joy,
and then they said,
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but wait a minute, you can't go.
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We're gonna take you to
Virginia and drop you off
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at your grandmother's,
whom I'd never met.
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So by the time,
I was 10 years old,
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I really didn't know
who I belonged to.
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The only friend I found
in that whole thing
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was that tiger stripe
Stella guitar.
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I slept with the damned thing.
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My childhood
was not great, either...
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and so I think that
had a lot of influences
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on the way that I look at life,
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and I'm sure he's the same way.
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♪ We said good-bye
in Marina Del Rey ♪
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♪ "I had a good time" was
the last thing I heard her say ♪
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♪ As I walked away
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If there's a songwriter
that's hypersensitive
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to people and places and
things and their surroundings,
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it is Dean Dillon.
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When millions of people
gravitate to something,
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and tears come out of their eyes
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when they hear that song,
you realize
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how important it is, but also,
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there's something really,
really special
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for all those words
to land in the right place.
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And he played
"Marina Del Rey."
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He goes, ah, he goes, ah,
I don't think you're gonna
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like this, but you know,
it's just one of the songs
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on here, just give it a listen.
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He said, I don't think
it's really for you,
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but just listen to it.
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And I listened
to "Marina Del Rey,"
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and I go, whoa, dude,
can I have that?
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♪ Like castaways
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♪ In Marina Del Rey
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Well, ladies
and gentlemen, the Beatles.
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I think seven years old,
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well, everybody in the world,
I think,
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sat down that night in front
of the TV if you had one,
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and I thought if music
can have that impact
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on a soul, on a human being,
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I darn sure
wanna be a part of that.
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When I was 16 years old,
my uncle Ronnie
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dated a girl that was in
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with Merle Haggard
and the Strangers.
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Now, I remember
getting in my uncle's car
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and we drive to Knoxville
at a Holiday Inn,
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and we beat on the door
there and Merle Haggard
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opens the door,
and all the Strangers.
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He says, sit down, kid,
said, play me some songs.
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And I played him, I think,
four or five
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of the worst pieces
of crap you've ever heard
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in your life, and he
looked at me and he said,
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you've got about seven years
before you start writing
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the caliber of stuff that
people will start recording.
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And what was funny about that,
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it was almost seven years
to the year
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that I, you know,
started having hit records.
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It was pretty eerie.
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Shortly after I graduated
from high school,
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I stuck my thumb out on
the side of the interstate
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at the Oak Ridge Gallaher View
exit and chased my dream.
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He came to town for the
first time and hitchhiked here
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at 17 years old, and a
hippie picked him up.
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Hey, thanks for stopping.
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Yeah, man, where you headed?
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Nashville.
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I'm going by there.
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Jump on in.
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I sit down on the front seat,
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and the moment I sit
down in the front seat
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with him and he looked at me
and he goes,
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you smoke pot?
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And I said, duh.
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And I thought, we're either
gonna have
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a hell of a time getting there,
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or we ain't gonna make her.
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What are you doing in Nashville?
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Well, I'm a songwriter.
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Ha, good luck.
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I think really being
a good songwriter
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has to start with,
at some point in your life
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really being hungry.
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Something got inside
of him and lit a fire
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and lit this brain up.
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And lit his soul to make
him want to be creative
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and to find commonality
with people.
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He made it on his own,
he did it on his own.
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He went to Nashville on his own.
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He wanted...
He had that fire in him
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that he knew
that he could write.
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I got into town
and didn't know a soul
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and somebody pointed Music Row
out to me and...
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Thought I'll go to
these publishing companies
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and these record labels
and just walk in cold
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and I asked the receptionist
if there was anybody there
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who'd listen to my music
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and about that time, this big
old guy walks around there,
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out of the hall there and says,
yeah, man,
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come on back, I'll listen
to your songs.
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And we went in his office
and the telephone rang
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and he talked like on that
phone for what I thought
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was forever, and I'm sitting
there twiddling my thumbs,
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nervous as a cat
on a hot tin roof.
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Finally he hangs the phone up
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Hey, I gotta go,
I got this long-haired hippie
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just came into my office.
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Looks at me and he goes,
I'll tell you what, kid,
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Go get a haircut, come back,
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and then I'll listen
to your music.
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That didn't sit too well
with me.
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I beat on a few more doors.
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He ended up going down here
at the bar.
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He went in there
and Faron Young was sitting
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there on the bar stool.
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He said, kid, what do you do?
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He said, I'm a songwriter,
I just moved here.
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He said, set your ass
up there, let's drink.
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And he just kept pouring
Dean beer, beer, beer, beer.
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Then he goes,
I don't feel too well.
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He says, come here, boy,
and he grabbed him by the arm
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Said, come in the bathroom here
with me.
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And he said, do this, and he starts
sticking his finger down his throat,
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and he just puked everywhere.
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Grabbed him by the collar, set
him back up on the bar stool.
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Get that boy another beer.
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At that point he was,
you know, young guy,
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but he was a whiskey-drinking,
hell-raising guy.
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I mean he was, I think he
thought he was Hank Williams.
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Or wanted to be Hank Williams,
you know.
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Ever since the Outlaw
project broke wide open,
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it was such a huge album,
the music business always
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looked for the next outlaw.
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The funny things is, so
many times people portrayed
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themselves as the outlaw,
and yet they've never
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really done anything
rebellious in their life.
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Dean Dillon never portrayed
himself as an outlaw.
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He absolutely was
an authentic outlaw.
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He was on the edge.
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You know, but his talent
was so massive
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you know, I mean,
it was part of the package.
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Being wild and reckless
was part of Dean Dillon.
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When you talk about
Dean and as I've said,
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he's like a brother
to so many artists,
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um, I would think that this was
his first music brother.
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Gary Stewart.
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These two guys were great
for each other,
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00:17:29,849 --> 00:17:33,152
and they probably weren't so
great for each other at times.
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There was cocaine, you know?
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And me and him and Gary
were in the back seat
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of a taxi and we were,
decided we should do
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all that cocaine before
we got to the airport.
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So we're bent
over down thinking-
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trying to get where
the taxi driver couldn't see us
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snorting all that stuff
we could.
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The best country music
honky tonk singer ever born
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to ever draw breath
was Gary Stewart.
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I mean, I thought Gary was
the greatest raw honky tonk
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singer I ever heard.
He kinda reminded me
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of a wild Jerry Lee Lewis,
and every song
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was drinking, every song
was misery and heartache
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and he could sell it,
and then Dean's over here
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writing all these wonderful
songs that everybody's recording
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that you love, and I thought
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if they could've stayed
together long enough
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that they could've been
a dynamic duo.
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I finally got a job
portraying Hank Williams...
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in a Country Music USA show
at Opryland,
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which was a big theme park
back in those days.
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And I walked on stage
and I did my three songs
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and I walked off stage
and there stood that guy.
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He said, that was great.
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He said, can you come
to my office next week?
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I wanna hear some more
of your stuff.
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And I looked at him and I said,
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get your hair cut and I will.
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True story.
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You can't make that shit up.
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Dean came to town
and slept in a coal bin
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00:19:12,151 --> 00:19:15,354
over here off of 18th Avenue,
down in the basement.
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00:19:15,355 --> 00:19:17,256
Frank Dycus
was an old songwriter
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00:19:17,257 --> 00:19:19,891
who ran Au Par
Publishing Company.
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And, 'course, Dolly and Porter
had the downstairs studio
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and then there was a coal bin
under there.
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I'll let you play with
some of those songs,
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and lemme see what I can do
with 'em.
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And you can work around here
in the office
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in the studio, but I ain't
gonna let you sleep here.
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Don't know you.
I ain't givin' you a key yet.
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So he made him sleep down
there in the coal bin.
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Anywhere to lay your
head sounded good to me.
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And he said, he'd peek
out that hole
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00:19:41,214 --> 00:19:43,449
and there'd be, like, Porter
Wagner in that rhinestone suit
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00:19:43,450 --> 00:19:44,984
and Dolly
and the whole damned thing
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00:19:45,051 --> 00:19:46,385
coming off that bus, you know?
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And he was like, wow, that's
country music right there,
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I mean, Porter and Dolly.
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I first heard of Dean when
a songwriter in the company
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named John Schweers
had gone to Opryland.
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00:19:58,265 --> 00:20:01,333
Well, the country singer
was Dean Dillon,
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00:20:01,334 --> 00:20:04,836
so I signed him for,
he liked to tell everybody,
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for $50 a week,
but he would've taken 25.
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Dean always wore this
little floppy looking hat
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and he would come in
the office with a guitar
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in one hand, no case,
and a bottle of whiskey
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00:20:18,685 --> 00:20:20,419
in the other hand.
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It was just instant friendship.
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I heard Carol King
and James Taylor
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and it changed my whole agenda.
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I thought, you know,
if you could take
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those kinda melodies
and put 'em to these
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Merle Haggard
lyric driven songs,
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00:20:45,445 --> 00:20:47,279
you'd have a gold mine.
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00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,549
And to me, he might argue
with you,
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00:20:50,550 --> 00:20:54,353
but to me, where he
really killed Nashville
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00:20:54,354 --> 00:20:55,987
was with his melodies.
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I don't know what
the connection we had,
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but I got an idea that
was all about the melody.
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'Cause I'm a melody guy,
and Dean's one of the best
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melody guys
that I've ever known.
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00:21:08,034 --> 00:21:10,702
So that's where
I started pushing myself.
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1979 I had my first
number one record.
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And I remember the first
time I heard it on the radio
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I was going under the
Fessler's Lane overpass,
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00:21:23,450 --> 00:21:25,817
I had my radio turned on
and it came on the radio
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00:21:25,818 --> 00:21:28,187
and I pulled over and cried.
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Incredible
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that one of my songs
was actually good enough
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00:21:32,992 --> 00:21:35,762
to get played
on a radio station.
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For a songwriter
that's really good,
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00:21:49,409 --> 00:21:51,444
you know,
that's getting cuts and stuff
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00:21:51,511 --> 00:21:54,079
they normally won't take
a chance on an artist
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00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,483
that maybe has just gotten
signed and they never heard
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00:21:57,484 --> 00:22:00,952
of, and I was writing
back in those days,
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00:22:00,953 --> 00:22:03,021
but I didn't really
have a lot of confidence
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00:22:03,022 --> 00:22:04,956
in the songs that I was writing,
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00:22:04,957 --> 00:22:08,059
and I thought-I thought,
well, maybe I should look
399
00:22:08,060 --> 00:22:11,564
other places and I'd just
gotten out of the army
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00:22:11,631 --> 00:22:13,733
and immediately started
looking for a band.
401
00:22:14,066 --> 00:22:17,268
That's where the Ace
in the Hole band started,
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00:22:17,269 --> 00:22:19,004
was in those days.
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00:22:19,005 --> 00:22:22,708
Played Green Hall, we played
all of these places around
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00:22:22,709 --> 00:22:24,976
that had the dance hall,
we played 'em.
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00:22:24,977 --> 00:22:27,413
And we were just playing music,
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00:22:27,414 --> 00:22:28,947
just having a great time,
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00:22:28,948 --> 00:22:31,817
not making a lot of money,
and there were times
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00:22:31,818 --> 00:22:35,186
when I really did almost quit,
just to,
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00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:38,457
and go back to doing something,
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00:22:38,458 --> 00:22:42,394
agriculture.
Fortunately, I didn't
411
00:22:42,395 --> 00:22:44,830
and I kept going,
but I was real fortunate
412
00:22:44,831 --> 00:22:48,735
that Dean and Frank
took a chance on me
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00:22:48,801 --> 00:22:51,937
and ended up signing with MCA.
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00:22:51,938 --> 00:22:53,472
I struck up a conversation
with a guy
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00:22:53,473 --> 00:22:55,475
named Shel Silverstein.
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00:22:56,776 --> 00:23:00,412
Talked Shel into
writing a song with me.
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00:23:00,413 --> 00:23:03,849
And by noon,
we had the worst country song
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00:23:03,850 --> 00:23:05,618
known to man written.
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00:23:06,753 --> 00:23:09,488
Shel was writing songs
like "A Boy Named Sue."
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00:23:09,489 --> 00:23:12,859
I mean just big old country
music records.
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00:23:12,925 --> 00:23:16,027
I'm thinking, man,
I have blown my chance.
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00:23:16,028 --> 00:23:19,197
So I'm walking
out of Third Coast,
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00:23:19,198 --> 00:23:21,933
when lo and behold, look
who's walking through the gate
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00:23:21,934 --> 00:23:24,870
coming in, it's Frank Dycus.
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00:23:24,871 --> 00:23:28,006
I said Dycus, it's Dean,
you 'member me?
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00:23:28,007 --> 00:23:32,378
I said I got a record deal
and an idea for a song.
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00:23:33,446 --> 00:23:35,848
He goes, I remember you, kid.
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00:23:36,048 --> 00:23:37,516
What's your song idea?
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00:23:37,517 --> 00:23:39,184
She's got me wrapped
around her finger,
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00:23:39,185 --> 00:23:42,621
but tonight I'm gonna unwind,
which I thought
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00:23:42,622 --> 00:23:46,692
was a great idea,
and he thought for a minute
432
00:23:46,693 --> 00:23:48,293
and he looked back at me,
and he goes,
433
00:23:48,294 --> 00:23:49,829
well, how 'bout that woman
that I had
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00:23:49,896 --> 00:23:52,899
wrapped around my finger,
just come unwound?
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00:23:53,399 --> 00:23:55,267
And when I heard him say that,
I thought,
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00:23:55,334 --> 00:23:59,170
man, that's better,
that's even better.
437
00:23:59,171 --> 00:24:02,574
We wrote that song
'bout 45 minutes.
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00:24:02,575 --> 00:24:05,410
I'd bummed a case of beer
off this Budweiser truck
439
00:24:05,411 --> 00:24:07,112
that come by the house.
He'd bet me 10 bucks
440
00:24:07,113 --> 00:24:08,848
I couldn't do it.
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00:24:09,716 --> 00:24:11,517
So we're sitting there
popping tops
442
00:24:11,518 --> 00:24:15,954
on them beers
and shaking and how-dying
443
00:24:15,955 --> 00:24:18,090
and high fiving 'cause
we'd written that song
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00:24:18,157 --> 00:24:20,792
we thought was pretty good,
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00:24:20,793 --> 00:24:22,127
and 'bout that time,
this old boy
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00:24:22,128 --> 00:24:24,329
comes flying down the street,
pulls up the curb,
447
00:24:24,330 --> 00:24:28,534
rolls his window down,
says hey, he said,
448
00:24:28,535 --> 00:24:31,102
I'm cutting this kid from Texas,
449
00:24:31,103 --> 00:24:32,939
I need some songs for him.
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00:24:33,540 --> 00:24:35,241
Y'all got anything?
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00:24:35,508 --> 00:24:37,944
Well, that old boy
was Blake Mevis.
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00:24:38,010 --> 00:24:39,678
I told him, I said, yeah, man,
453
00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:42,648
we just finished this
thing called "Unwound."
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00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:45,216
We was gonna pitch it
to Johnny Paycheck,
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00:24:45,217 --> 00:24:46,618
but he's in jail.
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00:24:48,755 --> 00:24:50,522
Thinking that Paycheck
might cut that song,
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00:24:50,523 --> 00:24:52,824
and I think he was in jail
or something,
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00:24:52,825 --> 00:24:54,059
I don't know what it was, but,
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00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:57,262
so I ended up getting "Unwound."
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00:24:57,263 --> 00:25:00,231
And that started
a whole big mess.
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00:25:11,343 --> 00:25:14,245
♪ Give me a bottle
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00:25:14,246 --> 00:25:17,482
♪ Of your very best
463
00:25:17,483 --> 00:25:20,485
♪ 'Cause I've got a problem
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00:25:20,486 --> 00:25:23,689
♪ I'm gonna drink off my chest
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Pretty much that's how
I found material
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00:25:26,192 --> 00:25:27,859
for that first record.
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00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:30,295
I don't remember
all the songs on there,
468
00:25:30,296 --> 00:25:32,463
but I think there was
probably five songs
469
00:25:32,464 --> 00:25:35,334
on there that Dean Dillon
and Frank Dycus wrote.
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00:25:36,202 --> 00:25:38,436
That Dean had that way
of writing songs that was
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00:25:38,437 --> 00:25:41,306
right in George's
vocal wheelhouse.
472
00:25:41,307 --> 00:25:46,579
♪ 'Cause nobody in his right
mind would've left her ♪
473
00:25:49,248 --> 00:25:55,655
♪ I had to be crazy
to say goodbye ♪
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00:25:56,789 --> 00:26:02,028
♪ Nobody in his right
mind would've left her ♪
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00:26:02,494 --> 00:26:08,600
♪ Even my heart was smart
enough to stay behind ♪
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00:26:08,601 --> 00:26:11,470
Sitting in a bar one night.
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00:26:13,072 --> 00:26:14,539
Imagine that.
478
00:26:16,075 --> 00:26:18,877
This lady walked in
named Jeannie Seely.
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00:26:18,878 --> 00:26:21,247
And she said, I got somebody
that wants to meet you.
480
00:26:22,481 --> 00:26:24,549
And I said, well,
who might that be?
481
00:26:24,550 --> 00:26:27,653
And she said, Hank Cochran,
482
00:26:27,654 --> 00:26:30,555
and I like to have fell
out of my chair.
483
00:26:30,556 --> 00:26:31,891
Hank is Dean.
484
00:26:31,958 --> 00:26:35,727
What Hank... What Dean Dillon
did as a songwriter was
485
00:26:35,728 --> 00:26:38,029
he took the lyric form
and the heart
486
00:26:38,030 --> 00:26:40,732
of a Hank Cochran,
he just took all that stuff
487
00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:43,635
from the 60s and 70s
that he grew up on.
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00:26:43,636 --> 00:26:45,637
He was just taking
what those guys did
489
00:26:45,638 --> 00:26:47,939
and just taking it up about
five or six more notches.
490
00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:52,077
Just about everything
he writes is light years
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00:26:52,078 --> 00:26:54,112
ahead of everybody else.
492
00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:56,782
I did happen to meet
Hank Cochran by accident
493
00:26:56,783 --> 00:26:58,718
when I first moved to town.
494
00:26:58,785 --> 00:27:01,019
And knew him a little bit,
and knew he and Dean
495
00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:05,023
were writing a lot, so I knew
besides the Strait songs,
496
00:27:05,024 --> 00:27:07,193
you know,
Dean was more than legit.
497
00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:09,360
And a real long story short,
498
00:27:09,361 --> 00:27:12,463
he asked me to play a song and
then that led to another song
499
00:27:12,464 --> 00:27:15,500
and another song and at
four o'clock in the morning,
500
00:27:15,501 --> 00:27:17,268
four o'clock seems to be
my witching hour,
501
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:21,741
for some reason, but he finally
said, okay, that's enough.
502
00:27:23,242 --> 00:27:25,443
And he said...
Looked at me and he goes,
503
00:27:25,444 --> 00:27:29,247
you wanna go to the Bahamas
with me in the morning?
504
00:27:31,851 --> 00:27:33,953
Dean can say so much
in just amount
505
00:27:34,020 --> 00:27:35,286
of words just like this.
506
00:27:35,287 --> 00:27:37,422
It's like Hank said, you know,
and Dean said the same thing.
507
00:27:37,423 --> 00:27:40,259
If it looks this big on paper,
that means it's great.
508
00:27:40,793 --> 00:27:42,493
And for the next few years,
509
00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:44,964
we lived on a boat
called The Legend.
510
00:27:45,832 --> 00:27:52,637
And we did nothing...
that was legal.
511
00:27:55,341 --> 00:27:59,245
And I actually drunk
myself sober that night.
512
00:28:00,146 --> 00:28:02,949
And it is possible,
I've done it.
513
00:28:04,550 --> 00:28:07,585
And at four o'clock
in the morning,
514
00:28:07,586 --> 00:28:10,222
I looked at old Hank and I said,
515
00:28:14,293 --> 00:28:16,928
♪ Well, excuse me
516
00:28:16,929 --> 00:28:21,032
♪ But I think
you've got my chair ♪
517
00:28:24,737 --> 00:28:27,072
Him and Hank Cochran
wrote that somewhere
518
00:28:27,073 --> 00:28:29,640
in I don't know, Florida,
or there on Hank's boat,
519
00:28:29,641 --> 00:28:32,043
or I don't know
the story really,
520
00:28:32,044 --> 00:28:33,879
but it was something like that.
521
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,317
And could there be a better
song than "The Chair?"
522
00:28:38,785 --> 00:28:41,286
I mean, melody wise,
and story wise,
523
00:28:41,287 --> 00:28:43,455
it's just so well written.
524
00:28:46,458 --> 00:28:48,994
♪ Oh, if you don't mind,
525
00:28:48,995 --> 00:28:53,532
♪ Could I talk you
out of a light ♪
526
00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:57,436
That's still one of my
favorite songs to do on stage.
527
00:28:57,503 --> 00:29:05,577
♪ Well, thank you,
could I drink you a buy ♪
528
00:29:06,278 --> 00:29:08,680
♪ Oh, listen to me
529
00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:13,552
♪ What I mean is
can I buy you a drink? ♪
530
00:29:15,321 --> 00:29:18,490
♪ Anything you please
531
00:29:19,591 --> 00:29:22,794
We got through the first
verse in five minutes.
532
00:29:22,795 --> 00:29:25,931
It just poured down on paper.
533
00:29:25,932 --> 00:29:27,466
Then we got stuck.
534
00:29:28,367 --> 00:29:30,668
And as he often did,
he got up and walked around
535
00:29:30,669 --> 00:29:35,406
that boat, pulling on that
beard, He walked back in there,
536
00:29:35,407 --> 00:29:36,641
he looked at me,
he said how about this?
537
00:29:36,642 --> 00:29:38,977
Well, thank you. Can I drink you a buy?
Oh, listen to me.
538
00:29:38,978 --> 00:29:43,915
What I mean is can I buy you a drink?
Anything you please.
539
00:29:43,916 --> 00:29:45,984
I thought this is
the most brilliant thing
540
00:29:45,985 --> 00:29:47,319
I've ever heard in my life.
541
00:29:47,653 --> 00:29:51,190
♪ No, I don't mind at all
542
00:29:52,892 --> 00:29:55,026
♪ Oh, I like you too
543
00:29:55,027 --> 00:29:58,096
♪ And to tell you the truth
544
00:29:58,097 --> 00:30:03,602
♪ That wasn't my chair
after all ♪
545
00:30:06,372 --> 00:30:08,940
♪ Oh, I like you too
546
00:30:08,941 --> 00:30:12,778
♪ And to tell you the truth
547
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:21,353
♪ Oh, that wasn't my chair
after all ♪
548
00:30:22,955 --> 00:30:26,624
♪ Doo doo doo doo doo
549
00:30:33,399 --> 00:30:37,970
We finished the song and I
think it was the next day
550
00:30:38,037 --> 00:30:40,171
we got a call, I did,
from George,
551
00:30:40,172 --> 00:30:42,273
he goes, where are you and
when are you coming back?
552
00:30:42,274 --> 00:30:43,341
I'm doing a new album.
553
00:30:43,342 --> 00:30:45,444
I said, well, I'm not
telling you where I'm at,
554
00:30:45,511 --> 00:30:48,313
and I ain't coming back
to Nashville.
555
00:30:48,314 --> 00:30:51,082
And Hank goes, well, now,
hold on a minute here,
556
00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:53,784
we're running a little low
on money.
557
00:30:53,785 --> 00:30:56,854
I write all the melodies
to stuff I do,
558
00:30:56,855 --> 00:31:02,027
and I just couldn't get
a good finish on that,
559
00:31:02,028 --> 00:31:06,031
on this song,
and he said, well, play this.
560
00:31:06,032 --> 00:31:07,566
He said, play...
561
00:31:09,435 --> 00:31:11,636
And if you listen
to that melody,
562
00:31:11,637 --> 00:31:14,005
because everybody,
like I said, at that time,
563
00:31:14,006 --> 00:31:16,841
takes a little bit about
of every songwriter,
564
00:31:16,842 --> 00:31:20,411
♪ I love you too
and to tell you the truth ♪
565
00:31:20,412 --> 00:31:23,182
♪ That wasn't my chair
after all ♪
566
00:31:23,615 --> 00:31:25,484
And I said, Hank,
we can't do that.
567
00:31:27,153 --> 00:31:28,955
And he goes, why not?
568
00:31:29,688 --> 00:31:31,322
And I said, 'cause that's
569
00:31:31,323 --> 00:31:34,226
♪ Crazy for cryin'
570
00:31:34,293 --> 00:31:37,328
♪ Crazy for tryin'
571
00:31:37,329 --> 00:31:41,367
♪ And I'm crazy for loving you
572
00:31:44,836 --> 00:31:45,771
Yeah.
573
00:31:49,108 --> 00:31:54,412
And I said, you know,
one person that I don't want
574
00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:57,149
pissed off at me
is Willie Nelson.
575
00:31:59,751 --> 00:32:04,822
And he goes, and I swear
to God, this is what he said,
576
00:32:04,823 --> 00:32:10,161
he goes,
well, Willie won't mind.
577
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:16,302
And here's why he said that.
578
00:32:16,835 --> 00:32:24,642
1965, I think, Hank was
writing for Pamper Music,
579
00:32:24,643 --> 00:32:26,912
Pamper Publishing Company.
580
00:32:28,214 --> 00:32:29,614
And the owner came to him
and said, man,
581
00:32:29,615 --> 00:32:33,985
you're doing so good,
we're gonna up your draw
582
00:32:33,986 --> 00:32:36,488
$25,000 a year.
583
00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:40,658
And Hank said, no, you're not.
584
00:32:40,659 --> 00:32:44,029
And he said you're gonna
take that $25,000
585
00:32:44,030 --> 00:32:46,497
and sign Willie Nelson.
586
00:32:46,498 --> 00:32:49,034
And that's what they did.
587
00:32:49,035 --> 00:32:53,438
And so Willie didn't mind.
588
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:06,451
Dean was making records
on RCA at the time,
589
00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:09,055
and so I became his bass player,
590
00:33:09,255 --> 00:33:11,790
so I went out on the road
with him when he'd do gigs.
591
00:33:12,291 --> 00:33:17,028
He got a record deal as
well, shortly after I did.
592
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:19,897
Before I started this
journey, I had,
593
00:33:19,898 --> 00:33:22,233
actually had
his Slick Nickel record.
594
00:33:22,234 --> 00:33:23,468
I just loved it.
595
00:33:23,469 --> 00:33:28,239
Although Dean had record deals
and made some great albums,
596
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,477
I don't think Dean's voice
was particularly suited
597
00:33:32,478 --> 00:33:35,746
for country radio at that
particular time.
598
00:33:35,747 --> 00:33:40,418
As Bob Dillon had difficulty
at times with popular radio.
599
00:33:40,419 --> 00:33:42,821
I get this call
from Erv Woolsey,
600
00:33:43,355 --> 00:33:46,558
and he asked me
if I wanna meet George,
601
00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:49,227
and I'm like, of course I do,
you know,
602
00:33:49,228 --> 00:33:52,797
up until... I think we'd had
three or four records,
603
00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:55,201
and I'd never met the guy.
604
00:33:55,567 --> 00:33:58,937
He was kinda focused
on his recording career
605
00:33:59,004 --> 00:34:01,272
and I was focused on my
recording career,
606
00:34:01,273 --> 00:34:04,642
and I was still trying
to suck songs outta Dean
607
00:34:04,643 --> 00:34:06,744
that he wasn't gonna cut.
608
00:34:06,745 --> 00:34:08,713
I think that the highest
charted single
609
00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:11,516
I ever got to was 30 something.
610
00:34:11,517 --> 00:34:13,951
I was kinda jealous
a little bit.
611
00:34:13,952 --> 00:34:19,056
I mean, I go down there and
walk in, walk up to his table,
612
00:34:19,057 --> 00:34:24,061
we shake and howdy, and you know,
I'm chain smoking Marlboros,
613
00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:27,031
and he looked at me
and said, man, you mind
614
00:34:27,032 --> 00:34:31,001
not smoking? He said, that
smoke really messes with me.
615
00:34:31,002 --> 00:34:36,208
And I went, you mean, that?
616
00:34:38,076 --> 00:34:40,044
Kinda blowed that, and it was
like, you know what I mean?
617
00:34:40,045 --> 00:34:41,579
And I think Erv was going, eh.
618
00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:42,713
You know what I mean?
619
00:34:42,714 --> 00:34:43,615
It was like, what are you doing?
620
00:34:43,682 --> 00:34:44,982
You know?
621
00:34:44,983 --> 00:34:46,517
I'll have to go along with
622
00:34:46,518 --> 00:34:47,952
if Dean says
that's what happened,
623
00:34:47,953 --> 00:34:51,522
because I totally don't
remember it, but...
624
00:34:51,523 --> 00:34:53,291
that sounds like what Dean
would do
625
00:34:53,292 --> 00:34:55,760
if I were to tell him to
put his cigarette out.
626
00:34:55,761 --> 00:35:00,998
My first impression was,
you know, this guy's got it all.
627
00:35:00,999 --> 00:35:03,568
He's got the look,
he sings great,
628
00:35:03,569 --> 00:35:06,404
and he's a good guy.
629
00:35:06,405 --> 00:35:08,374
And that was important to me.
630
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,107
A real cowboy.
631
00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:14,413
And I wanted to be a cowboy.
632
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,182
I was around 'em both
and I seen it,
633
00:35:17,183 --> 00:35:19,785
and it's really kinda... They're
the same person, sort of.
634
00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:22,820
It's kinda really,
I don't know, there's a lot
635
00:35:22,821 --> 00:35:24,855
of similarity there,
it's really wild.
636
00:35:24,856 --> 00:35:26,857
And so they're
like two brothers.
637
00:35:26,858 --> 00:35:28,226
And especially when
they hand a guitar over
638
00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:31,596
when they're like jabbing at each
other, you know what I mean?
639
00:35:31,597 --> 00:35:33,864
I seen that firsthand a couple
of times and I was like, wow.
640
00:35:33,865 --> 00:35:37,403
I totally thought he
was gonna be an artist.
641
00:35:37,603 --> 00:35:40,572
Because I always
loved Dean's singing.
642
00:35:40,839 --> 00:35:45,576
His soulful voice just is...
Whenever he would
643
00:35:45,577 --> 00:35:49,714
pitch me a song, I would always
want him doing the vocals
644
00:35:49,715 --> 00:35:51,350
on the demo.
645
00:35:52,083 --> 00:35:55,020
♪ Once I get there
646
00:35:55,854 --> 00:35:59,490
♪ I'll drop anchor
647
00:35:59,491 --> 00:36:03,461
♪ Toast the one
who broke my heart ♪
648
00:36:03,462 --> 00:36:06,097
♪ I'd like to thank her
649
00:36:07,233 --> 00:36:09,701
♪ C'est la vie
650
00:36:11,503 --> 00:36:14,039
♪ Come what may
651
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,777
♪ I probably would've
blown it anyway ♪
652
00:36:22,581 --> 00:36:25,150
♪ Life goes on
653
00:36:26,585 --> 00:36:30,356
♪ I will, too and then my sin
654
00:36:31,022 --> 00:36:34,593
♪ Take me to somebody else
655
00:36:36,495 --> 00:36:40,766
♪ God made boats like this
for guys like me ♪
656
00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:44,836
♪ So c'est la vie
657
00:36:47,573 --> 00:36:51,677
I'm in the studio putting
down vocals on "The Chair."
658
00:36:52,811 --> 00:36:56,682
And I look around
and Hank's gone.
659
00:36:57,916 --> 00:37:01,286
And I ask the engineer,
I say, where is he?
660
00:37:01,287 --> 00:37:02,687
And he said, well, I think he's
back over
661
00:37:02,688 --> 00:37:06,591
in this room writing a
song with Royce Porter.
662
00:37:06,592 --> 00:37:11,696
The guy who had written
"Homecoming 63" with.
663
00:37:11,697 --> 00:37:14,098
And I said, well, not
on my darned session,
664
00:37:14,099 --> 00:37:16,534
without me, they're not.
665
00:37:16,535 --> 00:37:18,736
So I go over there
and open the door
666
00:37:18,737 --> 00:37:21,539
and Hank's like a kid
with his hand caught
667
00:37:21,540 --> 00:37:22,474
in a cookie jar and he goes,
668
00:37:22,475 --> 00:37:26,377
Dean, listen to this idea
we've got.
669
00:37:26,378 --> 00:37:27,712
And they played me
a little bit of it,
670
00:37:27,713 --> 00:37:29,915
and he said, what do you think?
671
00:37:30,215 --> 00:37:33,485
And I said, man,
that's horrible.
672
00:37:33,619 --> 00:37:36,187
I said, y'all can't be serious.
673
00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:37,955
And he goes, yeah.
674
00:37:37,956 --> 00:37:40,091
You want in on it or not?
675
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:42,126
And I knew better.
676
00:37:46,131 --> 00:37:48,334
♪ If you leave me
677
00:37:48,834 --> 00:37:51,836
♪ I'm won't miss you
678
00:37:51,837 --> 00:37:56,107
♪ And I won't ever
take you back ♪
679
00:37:57,609 --> 00:38:00,479
♪ Girl, your memory
680
00:38:00,546 --> 00:38:03,381
♪ Won't ever haunt me
681
00:38:03,382 --> 00:38:05,983
♪ 'Cause I don't love you
682
00:38:05,984 --> 00:38:09,321
♪ Now, if you'll buy that
683
00:38:09,821 --> 00:38:16,428
♪ I got some oceanfront property
in Arizona ♪
684
00:38:17,963 --> 00:38:21,832
♪ From my front porch
you can see the sea ♪
685
00:38:21,833 --> 00:38:28,373
♪ I've got some oceanfront
property in Arizona ♪
686
00:38:28,374 --> 00:38:34,312
♪ If you'll buy that, I'll throw
the Golden Gate in free ♪
687
00:38:35,481 --> 00:38:36,948
So get done with that song
688
00:38:37,015 --> 00:38:40,751
and he goes, well, now
what do you think about it?
689
00:38:40,752 --> 00:38:42,253
I said, I hate it.
690
00:38:44,289 --> 00:38:45,556
And he goes, well, why?
691
00:38:45,557 --> 00:38:49,927
I said I don't want people to
think I'm a funny songwriter.
692
00:38:49,928 --> 00:38:52,830
Life ain't funny to me.
693
00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:55,232
And I didn't.
I didn't wanna be known
694
00:38:55,233 --> 00:38:58,235
as a funny songwriter
and the other thing
695
00:38:58,236 --> 00:39:01,572
that bothered me-the hell
outta me 'bout that song
696
00:39:01,573 --> 00:39:04,309
was every time we'd get...
697
00:39:04,943 --> 00:39:09,948
♪ If you'll buy that, I'll throw
the Golden Gate in free ♪
698
00:39:10,015 --> 00:39:11,482
Every time we'd get
to that point,
699
00:39:11,483 --> 00:39:14,452
Royce was singing it,
and he'd go,
700
00:39:14,453 --> 00:39:16,921
♪ If you'll buy that
I'll throw ♪
701
00:39:16,922 --> 00:39:22,727
♪ The Golden Gate Bridge
in free ♪
702
00:39:22,728 --> 00:39:25,864
And it would run all over me.
703
00:39:26,532 --> 00:39:27,565
Every time.
704
00:39:27,566 --> 00:39:29,634
♪ If you'll buy that
I'll throw ♪
705
00:39:29,635 --> 00:39:34,505
♪ The Golden Gate Bridge
in free ♪
706
00:39:34,506 --> 00:39:39,076
And I said Royce, listen,
if they don't know
707
00:39:39,077 --> 00:39:41,579
what the Golden Gate is,
they ain't gonna get
708
00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:43,414
this damned song anyway.
709
00:39:47,886 --> 00:39:51,188
And the other thing is,
it's outta meter.
710
00:39:51,189 --> 00:39:53,057
So you're gonna have
all these dancers
711
00:39:53,058 --> 00:39:55,226
colliding into one another.
712
00:39:57,629 --> 00:39:59,197
It's doomed.
713
00:40:00,532 --> 00:40:02,133
So I finally convinced him,
714
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:08,073
♪ If you'll buy that I'll throw
the Golden Gate in free ♪
715
00:40:11,977 --> 00:40:15,946
So the funny thing
about that song was,
716
00:40:15,947 --> 00:40:18,950
as bad as I hated it...
717
00:40:20,251 --> 00:40:23,688
it came in the charts
at number one
718
00:40:23,689 --> 00:40:26,491
and sold a million records
the first week it was out.
719
00:40:28,727 --> 00:40:32,030
And where was Deano
when that song came out?
720
00:40:32,097 --> 00:40:33,464
Boat?
721
00:40:33,465 --> 00:40:34,765
Nope.
722
00:40:34,766 --> 00:40:35,766
In a bar.
723
00:40:35,767 --> 00:40:40,871
I had enlisted myself
at the Betty Ford Center
724
00:40:40,872 --> 00:40:43,340
in Rancho Mirage, California.
725
00:40:46,111 --> 00:40:48,278
And I did so good,
I liked it so much
726
00:40:48,279 --> 00:40:50,014
I went back four times.
727
00:41:04,896 --> 00:41:07,164
I just finished my new album
728
00:41:07,165 --> 00:41:09,234
and it happened to be
right around
729
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:12,871
the same time that George was
looking to cut his new album.
730
00:41:13,438 --> 00:41:16,707
And so he calls me up and
says, meet me in my office,
731
00:41:16,708 --> 00:41:20,110
and I did, Monday morning,
10 o'clock
732
00:41:20,111 --> 00:41:23,113
of the week he recorded,
I was always in front
733
00:41:23,114 --> 00:41:25,183
of George Strait playing songs
for him.
734
00:41:25,283 --> 00:41:26,784
'Cause every time that man
would cut,
735
00:41:26,785 --> 00:41:28,553
it'd be like, well, I said,
it was like Elvis come to town.
736
00:41:28,554 --> 00:41:30,588
It was like Presley came to
town to cut a record, man.
737
00:41:30,589 --> 00:41:34,859
I mean, this town would
fucking buzz, man, for weeks.
738
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:37,162
Well, he's got 'em hold...
Publishers were calling each other,
739
00:41:37,228 --> 00:41:38,629
songwriters calling each other.
740
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:39,897
Strait's coming in town.
741
00:41:39,898 --> 00:41:41,566
When we would find out
the dates that Strait
742
00:41:41,567 --> 00:41:45,202
was going to record, at Acuff
Rose we would take shifts
743
00:41:45,203 --> 00:41:47,004
standing at our window,
744
00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:49,541
which overlooked
Herb Woolsey's office,
745
00:41:49,608 --> 00:41:52,543
and when we would see the
limo pull in the gate,
746
00:41:52,544 --> 00:41:53,811
and George and Norma
would get out,
747
00:41:53,812 --> 00:41:55,647
we would run into the rest of
the building
748
00:41:55,714 --> 00:41:57,014
and go, Strait's here,
they've arrived,
749
00:41:57,015 --> 00:41:58,515
they're in town.
750
00:41:58,516 --> 00:42:00,317
And this time around, I
played him about 20 songs
751
00:42:00,318 --> 00:42:02,019
and he didn't like anything.
752
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:04,556
Dean had written so many
great songs for George,
753
00:42:04,623 --> 00:42:06,891
and George had
had so much success,
754
00:42:06,892 --> 00:42:08,525
and there was a little point
in there,
755
00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:13,363
and I was still playing in
bars and trying to find my way,
756
00:42:13,364 --> 00:42:15,365
and it was a little point
in there
757
00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:18,637
where George was still
having number one hits,
758
00:42:18,704 --> 00:42:22,272
but they didn't have that thing
that I'd,
759
00:42:22,273 --> 00:42:26,611
in the writing of it,
the song was different.
760
00:42:26,612 --> 00:42:29,213
It had changed highways.
761
00:42:29,214 --> 00:42:31,750
It'd gone off on the shoulder.
762
00:42:32,618 --> 00:42:35,452
And they weren't
those Dean Dillon songs.
763
00:42:35,453 --> 00:42:38,155
I said, oh, well, maybe next
time, Boss.
764
00:42:38,156 --> 00:42:43,527
And I'm walking out the
door, and he goes, hey, Dean,
765
00:42:43,528 --> 00:42:46,397
you've got a song that I've
heard about.
766
00:42:46,898 --> 00:42:49,433
It's a song called,
"Easy Come, Easy Go."
767
00:42:49,434 --> 00:42:51,369
And I said, yeah, man,
that's my first single
768
00:42:51,502 --> 00:42:53,203
off my new album.
769
00:42:53,204 --> 00:42:57,474
And so then I heard that
he'd cut it on his record,
770
00:42:57,475 --> 00:43:00,210
he was recording, too,
and I said, man, Dean,
771
00:43:00,211 --> 00:43:01,412
I really want that song.
772
00:43:01,479 --> 00:43:05,249
He said, if you'll
let me have that song,
773
00:43:05,250 --> 00:43:07,317
I promise you
a number one record.
774
00:43:07,318 --> 00:43:09,019
And in my mind, I'm thinking,
let's see,
775
00:43:09,020 --> 00:43:13,290
last year I spent $30,000 of my
own money,
776
00:43:13,291 --> 00:43:18,897
my songwriting money propping
up this recording...
777
00:43:18,964 --> 00:43:22,267
singer aspiration,
and it garnered me nothing.
778
00:43:25,637 --> 00:43:28,973
And by that time, we'd had
some big records together.
779
00:43:28,974 --> 00:43:33,443
Marina Del Rey, and
Nobody In His Right Mind,
780
00:43:33,444 --> 00:43:38,348
and I did the math in
my head, and you know,
781
00:43:38,349 --> 00:43:41,618
number one record's
a half million bucks.
782
00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:43,420
So I didn't hear from him
for awhile,
783
00:43:43,421 --> 00:43:46,323
and then I don't know,
a few days, or weeks later
784
00:43:46,324 --> 00:43:51,762
he said, you know what, man, you know how
he talks, I'm gonna give you that song.
785
00:43:53,298 --> 00:43:55,065
I know right where I was,
I was in Oklahoma City
786
00:43:55,066 --> 00:43:59,837
on Interstate 240
between Western and Walker,
787
00:43:59,838 --> 00:44:02,306
and my wife had to go to Kinkos.
788
00:44:02,307 --> 00:44:06,276
And she went in to get
something in Kinkos
789
00:44:06,277 --> 00:44:07,979
and I was sitting in the car,
790
00:44:08,046 --> 00:44:11,515
and this George Strait song
come on
791
00:44:11,516 --> 00:44:13,451
and the second it was
done she got in the car
792
00:44:13,518 --> 00:44:17,087
and she got to hear the
last chorus of the song.
793
00:44:17,088 --> 00:44:18,923
I said, you hear this George
Strait song?
794
00:44:18,924 --> 00:44:19,991
She goes, yeah.
795
00:44:20,058 --> 00:44:21,625
I go, it's incredible.
796
00:44:21,626 --> 00:44:23,393
It was "Easy Come, Easy Go."
797
00:44:23,394 --> 00:44:25,629
And I said I guarantee you,
798
00:44:25,630 --> 00:44:28,933
I guarantee Dean Dillon wrote
that song.
799
00:44:28,934 --> 00:44:31,101
Walked right down
the street to Atlantic,
800
00:44:31,102 --> 00:44:35,873
walk in to the office there
and tell Rick Blackburn,
801
00:44:35,874 --> 00:44:39,343
I said, I've got some good
news and some bad news.
802
00:44:39,344 --> 00:44:42,579
And he goes, well, what's the
good news?
803
00:44:42,580 --> 00:44:46,885
I said, "Easy Come, Easy Go"
is gonna be the next single.
804
00:44:47,185 --> 00:44:49,653
And he said, well, then,
what's the bad news?
805
00:44:49,654 --> 00:44:52,122
I said, it's on George Strait.
806
00:44:52,123 --> 00:44:55,192
I said, stick a fork in me,
I'm done.
807
00:44:55,193 --> 00:44:56,927
And he goes, well,
what do you mean?
808
00:44:56,928 --> 00:44:58,796
I said, I don't wanna
make records anymore,
809
00:44:58,797 --> 00:45:02,032
I just wanna write songs from
here on out.
810
00:45:02,033 --> 00:45:03,901
He said, you know, I don't...
This recording thing,
811
00:45:03,902 --> 00:45:07,337
I just, it's not doing it
for me,
812
00:45:07,338 --> 00:45:10,140
so I don't know, I think things
work out
813
00:45:10,141 --> 00:45:13,844
for a reason, and whether or
not it would've been a hit
814
00:45:13,845 --> 00:45:15,612
for Dean, who knows?
815
00:45:15,613 --> 00:45:17,949
Fortunately, I got that song,
I think it was a number one
816
00:45:18,016 --> 00:45:22,086
record, I'm not sure,
but I know it was a hit record.
817
00:45:22,087 --> 00:45:26,556
♪ Says she's had enough of me
818
00:45:26,557 --> 00:45:30,728
♪ I've had enough of her too
819
00:45:31,296 --> 00:45:35,500
♪ I might as well go on
and set her free ♪
820
00:45:36,334 --> 00:45:40,405
♪ She's already
turned me loose ♪
821
00:45:40,538 --> 00:45:45,175
♪ No fault, no blame,
nobody done no wrong ♪
822
00:45:45,176 --> 00:45:49,880
♪ That's just the way
it sometimes goes ♪
823
00:45:49,881 --> 00:45:54,751
♪ Sometimes two people
just don't get along ♪
824
00:45:54,752 --> 00:45:58,956
♪ It's time to hit the road
825
00:45:58,957 --> 00:46:00,557
♪ Goodbye
826
00:46:00,558 --> 00:46:03,393
♪ Farewell
827
00:46:03,394 --> 00:46:06,230
♪ So long
828
00:46:06,231 --> 00:46:10,234
♪ Vaya con Dios, good luck,
829
00:46:10,235 --> 00:46:14,806
♪ Wish you well, take it slow
830
00:46:14,873 --> 00:46:19,144
♪ Easy come, girl, easy go
831
00:46:20,378 --> 00:46:22,747
We did that for 35 years.
832
00:46:22,881 --> 00:46:25,582
Every once in awhile, he
and I and his son Bubba
833
00:46:25,583 --> 00:46:27,685
get together and we
write songs together,
834
00:46:27,752 --> 00:46:28,919
and that's awesome.
835
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,555
It's easy when you've got
the king of country music
836
00:46:31,556 --> 00:46:33,557
sitting there and you're
writing with him,
837
00:46:33,558 --> 00:46:35,059
'cause you know
what he's thinking,
838
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:36,760
and what he likes
and doesn't like,
839
00:46:36,761 --> 00:46:40,430
and it just makes my job
really easy.
840
00:46:40,431 --> 00:46:41,999
To get him together
with my son, especially,
841
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,101
who really,
really is trying to learn
842
00:46:44,102 --> 00:46:46,670
to be a good songwriter,
you know, to get somebody
843
00:46:46,671 --> 00:46:49,975
like Dean to help him and
teach him and show him things,
844
00:46:50,041 --> 00:46:53,944
and stuff, you know,
it's pretty special.
845
00:46:53,945 --> 00:46:56,146
And I get this phone call
one day,
846
00:46:56,147 --> 00:46:59,516
and it goes something like this.
847
00:46:59,517 --> 00:47:03,553
Hey, Dean, Bubba and I have
been down here
848
00:47:03,554 --> 00:47:06,123
kicking some songs around
849
00:47:06,124 --> 00:47:09,093
and we was just kinda wondering
if you'd
850
00:47:09,094 --> 00:47:11,429
come down here and help us out.
851
00:47:13,331 --> 00:47:16,533
And I went, duh.
852
00:47:19,237 --> 00:47:23,074
You know, "Here for a Good Time"
was Bubba's idea.
853
00:47:23,241 --> 00:47:25,943
♪ Every day I wake up
854
00:47:25,944 --> 00:47:28,913
♪ Knowing it could be my last
855
00:47:28,914 --> 00:47:33,283
♪ I ain't here for a long time
856
00:47:33,284 --> 00:47:35,920
♪ I'm here for a good time
857
00:47:35,921 --> 00:47:38,923
You can't-you just can't
trade that for anything.
858
00:47:38,924 --> 00:47:42,026
Just pretty special for about
old Dean.
859
00:47:42,027 --> 00:47:45,762
♪ Pour me some moonshine.
860
00:47:45,763 --> 00:47:50,101
I had been a fan of his.
I know sometimes that he said
861
00:47:50,668 --> 00:47:54,104
he was a fan of mine.
What I guess he doesn't know
862
00:47:54,105 --> 00:47:57,341
is that I was a fan of his.
863
00:47:57,342 --> 00:48:00,477
He calls me and says, hey, we
should write a song together,
864
00:48:00,478 --> 00:48:02,346
and I said, yeah, sure,
which I don't know, I'm too
865
00:48:02,347 --> 00:48:04,949
nervous or insecure to say,
866
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:07,351
oh, yeah, let's hang out.
I go, yeah, sure, you know,
867
00:48:07,352 --> 00:48:09,019
thinking that that
would never happen.
868
00:48:09,020 --> 00:48:10,887
So then he calls me back
another time
869
00:48:10,888 --> 00:48:13,090
and he says, listen, I'm
gonna come down to Houston
870
00:48:13,091 --> 00:48:16,826
and see your show at the
Houston Rodeo
871
00:48:16,827 --> 00:48:19,229
and I'd like to hang out
with you a couple days
872
00:48:19,230 --> 00:48:20,797
and write songs.
873
00:48:20,798 --> 00:48:25,802
I said, uh, oh, okay, uh.
You know?
874
00:48:25,803 --> 00:48:27,637
We started talking about
"This West Texas Town,"
875
00:48:27,638 --> 00:48:31,441
as I recall, and we kinda
banged around on that
876
00:48:31,442 --> 00:48:33,477
and then Dean, as he will,
877
00:48:33,478 --> 00:48:35,812
it's just like boom, he goes,
okay,
878
00:48:35,813 --> 00:48:39,216
let's go, you know where
some antique stores are.
879
00:48:39,217 --> 00:48:41,586
I said, yeah, sure,
so we got in the car
880
00:48:41,652 --> 00:48:45,355
and we drove,
just saw the countryside
881
00:48:45,356 --> 00:48:48,725
and talked to these people,
in these antique stores,
882
00:48:48,726 --> 00:48:51,762
it was they, it totally cracked
me up.
883
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:55,066
We wrote the song called,
"West Texas Town,"
884
00:48:55,133 --> 00:48:58,602
that Dean and George Strait did
as a duet
885
00:48:58,603 --> 00:49:01,306
on George Strait's Troubadour
record,
886
00:49:01,439 --> 00:49:03,541
which was, as far as I
understand is only,
887
00:49:03,874 --> 00:49:06,811
George's only
Grammy winning record
888
00:49:06,911 --> 00:49:10,781
that he ever had,
so it was like, bingo.
889
00:49:10,881 --> 00:49:14,451
And it was... You know,
when I was writing,
890
00:49:14,452 --> 00:49:16,020
I don't really think
about anything happening
891
00:49:16,021 --> 00:49:17,521
for the song.
892
00:49:17,522 --> 00:49:19,489
I try to think
in terms of making
893
00:49:19,490 --> 00:49:21,392
the best song that you can,
894
00:49:21,492 --> 00:49:22,826
and really making sense.
895
00:49:22,827 --> 00:49:26,396
And you know, when that
happened, it was almost like
896
00:49:26,397 --> 00:49:28,766
unreal, like a dream, you know?
897
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,700
♪ My little dish
in that panhandle ♪
898
00:49:30,701 --> 00:49:32,369
♪ Lights up
like a Roman Candle ♪
899
00:49:32,370 --> 00:49:35,906
♪ When I reach
that West Texas town ♪
900
00:49:37,642 --> 00:49:39,276
Dean was like, what other towns
901
00:49:39,277 --> 00:49:41,911
are in Texas?
And I was like, what, you mean
902
00:49:41,912 --> 00:49:43,613
around like Amarillo?
903
00:49:43,614 --> 00:49:46,883
And he goes, yeah. I was
like, well, there's Lubbock
904
00:49:46,884 --> 00:49:49,219
and there's Idalou,
and there's Plainview,
905
00:49:49,220 --> 00:49:51,521
and there's Big Spring,
and he goes,
906
00:49:51,522 --> 00:49:53,657
you know, then he goes,
in that Dean kinda way,
907
00:49:53,658 --> 00:49:59,229
all right, so Big Spring up
to all the way to Plainview,
908
00:49:59,230 --> 00:50:02,166
and I was like, okay, that
works,
909
00:50:02,167 --> 00:50:04,034
I don't know how you have
that map in your head,
910
00:50:04,035 --> 00:50:05,836
but that's exactly how you
would go.
911
00:50:06,571 --> 00:50:08,004
♪ Ah, sing it Dean
912
00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:10,308
♪ From Big Spring
all the way to Plainview ♪
913
00:50:10,375 --> 00:50:12,876
♪ I can't wait
to get to you know who ♪
914
00:50:12,877 --> 00:50:15,912
♪ In that West Texas town
915
00:50:15,913 --> 00:50:18,482
♪ I drive through hell
and half of Texas ♪
916
00:50:18,483 --> 00:50:20,551
♪ Just to get to her
by breakfast ♪
917
00:50:20,618 --> 00:50:24,455
♪ Waiting in
the West Texas town ♪
918
00:50:27,658 --> 00:50:30,660
♪ I'm on my way to Amarillo
919
00:50:30,661 --> 00:50:34,264
♪ I can't seem to get
my fill of that ♪
920
00:50:34,265 --> 00:50:37,601
♪ Little West Texas Town
921
00:50:37,602 --> 00:50:40,171
♪ I've got a sweet thing built,
right Betty ♪
922
00:50:40,238 --> 00:50:42,206
♪ Head to toe,
she's mighty pretty ♪
923
00:50:42,207 --> 00:50:45,942
♪ Living in
that West Texas town ♪
924
00:50:45,943 --> 00:50:48,345
And then I can't do this.
925
00:50:48,346 --> 00:50:50,047
♪ Friday comes,
it's time to roll ♪
926
00:50:50,115 --> 00:50:51,915
♪ Time for me to hit the road
927
00:50:51,916 --> 00:50:53,851
♪ I've got my eyes
on the horizon ♪
928
00:50:54,585 --> 00:50:56,686
♪ My little dish in that pas...
929
00:50:56,687 --> 00:50:59,189
♪ My little dish
in that panhandle ♪
930
00:50:59,190 --> 00:51:00,690
♪ Lights up
like a Roman Candle ♪
931
00:51:00,691 --> 00:51:04,294
♪ When I reach
that West Texas town ♪
932
00:51:04,295 --> 00:51:05,795
That's it.
933
00:51:05,796 --> 00:51:07,497
♪ Baby,
turn the porch light on ♪
934
00:51:07,498 --> 00:51:09,399
♪ Your sweet Daddy's
coming home ♪
935
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,037
♪ To that West Texas town
936
00:51:14,172 --> 00:51:15,472
Ta-da.
937
00:51:16,674 --> 00:51:18,808
There we go,
that wasn't too bad.
938
00:51:18,809 --> 00:51:20,009
There you go.
939
00:51:20,010 --> 00:51:23,414
The caveat there was Dean
had never sung with George,
940
00:51:23,481 --> 00:51:25,849
and George had cut so
many of Dean's songs,
941
00:51:25,850 --> 00:51:27,751
and so they did this duet
on this song,
942
00:51:27,752 --> 00:51:30,019
so that was really proud moment
for me,
943
00:51:30,020 --> 00:51:32,490
and it was, I think it was a
really proud moment for Dean.
944
00:51:38,996 --> 00:51:40,997
♪ If I'm gonna self-destruct
945
00:51:40,998 --> 00:51:44,033
♪ I'm gonna go for bust
946
00:51:44,034 --> 00:51:45,936
♪ Do it right
947
00:51:46,003 --> 00:51:49,239
♪ Just as right
as wrong can do ♪
948
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:55,145
♪ So just let me go to hell
949
00:51:55,146 --> 00:51:57,915
♪ The way I want to
950
00:52:00,685 --> 00:52:06,523
♪ Ain't no half way
on this one way ♪
951
00:52:06,524 --> 00:52:08,993
♪ I've already sealed my fate
952
00:52:09,059 --> 00:52:12,028
♪ The devil knows my name
953
00:52:12,029 --> 00:52:14,798
♪ You can't save me
from the flames ♪
954
00:52:14,799 --> 00:52:18,636
♪ It's too late
955
00:52:19,570 --> 00:52:23,441
♪ Too late
956
00:52:32,783 --> 00:52:36,186
I remember coming home
from the office
957
00:52:36,187 --> 00:52:39,189
and I'd just had
a number one record.
958
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:43,393
I had three babies
under the age of five
959
00:52:43,394 --> 00:52:45,696
and there was all this turmoil
960
00:52:45,763 --> 00:52:48,933
constantly when I came home,
you know,
961
00:52:49,567 --> 00:52:53,169
and I walked in my house
that day
962
00:52:53,170 --> 00:52:55,505
and she went off and I went in
my office
963
00:52:55,506 --> 00:52:57,073
and sat there for a minute
964
00:52:57,074 --> 00:53:00,244
and looked at my desk and took
my arm
965
00:53:00,245 --> 00:53:01,812
and raked it clean.
966
00:53:04,449 --> 00:53:05,982
She came in there and
I said I'll never live
967
00:53:05,983 --> 00:53:08,953
another night in this house.
968
00:53:09,620 --> 00:53:10,988
And I didn't.
969
00:53:13,258 --> 00:53:15,859
A lot of the demons that had
chased him
970
00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:18,895
in his early years
of coming to town
971
00:53:18,896 --> 00:53:21,531
were sort of pushed
to the sideline
972
00:53:21,532 --> 00:53:24,167
and when he went through his
first divorce
973
00:53:24,168 --> 00:53:29,038
and with children involved, it-
he reverted back
974
00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:32,942
to some of those things
that had brought him relief
975
00:53:32,943 --> 00:53:34,745
and helped him escape.
976
00:53:38,816 --> 00:53:42,152
Gary tried to call me the
day he committed suicide.
977
00:53:42,219 --> 00:53:44,589
And I'd taken those calls a
million times,
978
00:53:44,655 --> 00:53:48,191
and that's the one
I didn't take, but Dean was,
979
00:53:48,192 --> 00:53:51,328
Dean was still... Dean was probably
headed down the same path.
980
00:53:51,329 --> 00:53:54,864
I mean, not suicide,
but Dean was having trouble,
981
00:53:54,865 --> 00:53:58,435
you know,
handling his day to day,
982
00:53:58,436 --> 00:54:01,037
and we were...
I can say that
983
00:54:01,038 --> 00:54:02,672
because I was through it
with him,
984
00:54:02,673 --> 00:54:05,676
I was right there
when it happened.
985
00:54:07,211 --> 00:54:13,817
And that had... Well, I'll
tell you how bad it hurt,
986
00:54:13,818 --> 00:54:15,485
it hurt bad enough
that it put me in
987
00:54:15,486 --> 00:54:19,589
Parthenon Pavilion Home
with a nervous breakdown.
988
00:54:19,590 --> 00:54:23,860
Dean's love for his
children is unsurpassed.
989
00:54:23,861 --> 00:54:27,064
He has a deep, deep love
for his kids.
990
00:54:27,998 --> 00:54:31,369
I became this every other
weekend dad.
991
00:54:33,638 --> 00:54:37,040
He had blacked out
and I said, so, Dean,
992
00:54:37,041 --> 00:54:41,411
if you know there's this edge
that you're about to go over
993
00:54:41,412 --> 00:54:45,315
with one more drink, why
do you have that one drink
994
00:54:45,316 --> 00:54:47,385
that's sort of
the tipping point?
995
00:54:47,852 --> 00:54:52,021
He said because for a little
while the pain goes away.
996
00:54:57,161 --> 00:55:02,099
But you move on, you know,
you do what you gotta do.
997
00:55:02,467 --> 00:55:04,501
He dealt with it in the only way
998
00:55:04,502 --> 00:55:07,537
that he really knew how to deal
with it.
999
00:55:07,538 --> 00:55:09,839
At that time, moment in time
in my life,
1000
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,144
if I, I had a bad drug and
alcohol problem and I knew it.
1001
00:55:14,445 --> 00:55:17,113
And I knew if I didn't
do something about it,
1002
00:55:17,114 --> 00:55:18,916
it was gonna kill me.
1003
00:55:21,752 --> 00:55:23,453
I don't think he found pleasure
1004
00:55:23,454 --> 00:55:26,055
necessarily in those things
1005
00:55:26,056 --> 00:55:29,959
I think that they were
a relief mechanism.
1006
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,862
He finally come up one day
and he said,
1007
00:55:32,863 --> 00:55:36,265
man, I love you, and
I'm sorry if I was ever
1008
00:55:36,266 --> 00:55:39,936
an asshole to you, and I said,
well, dude,
1009
00:55:39,937 --> 00:55:44,241
I mean, you know, I pick out
who the assholes are.
1010
00:55:44,842 --> 00:55:47,877
You know, I've been very
blessed and very fortunate
1011
00:55:47,878 --> 00:55:51,515
to have people in my
life that cared enough
1012
00:55:51,516 --> 00:55:54,551
to give me a second chance.
1013
00:55:54,552 --> 00:55:56,686
But you gotta know
I got past it,
1014
00:55:56,687 --> 00:55:59,956
and I'm not that guy today,
1015
00:55:59,957 --> 00:56:03,360
and I don't ever wanna be that
guy again.
1016
00:56:10,735 --> 00:56:12,301
You know, Dean and I
have a lot in common.
1017
00:56:12,302 --> 00:56:15,171
You know, we have... We actually
have the same birthday,
1018
00:56:15,172 --> 00:56:16,840
Dean and I do, March 26th.
1019
00:56:17,908 --> 00:56:21,245
So that's really, that was
really odd.
1020
00:56:22,913 --> 00:56:27,216
Dean was definitely someone
that showed me
1021
00:56:27,217 --> 00:56:29,586
that you could come from a
small town
1022
00:56:29,587 --> 00:56:34,090
and achieve big things,
and Dean was definitely
1023
00:56:34,091 --> 00:56:35,959
someone that I looked up to.
1024
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,463
We had similar life
experiences that led us
1025
00:56:39,464 --> 00:56:40,897
down this path.
1026
00:56:40,898 --> 00:56:43,701
And that was a big part
of my connection
1027
00:56:43,768 --> 00:56:45,769
and it still is a big
part of my connection
1028
00:56:45,770 --> 00:56:47,270
with Dean Dillon.
1029
00:56:47,271 --> 00:56:49,072
Troy Tomlinson
comes in and says,
1030
00:56:49,073 --> 00:56:51,975
hey, man, would you, man,
would you mind
1031
00:56:51,976 --> 00:56:54,812
writing with this kid named
Kenny Chesney?
1032
00:56:55,980 --> 00:56:58,314
He goes, he's been
dying to write with you,
1033
00:56:58,315 --> 00:57:01,852
but I told him no, he
ain't up to your level yet.
1034
00:57:01,952 --> 00:57:06,390
I was very scared to write
with Dean the first time.
1035
00:57:06,891 --> 00:57:09,358
I was brand new,
outta East Tennessee,
1036
00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:11,394
and Dean was writing
at Acuff Rose Music,
1037
00:57:11,395 --> 00:57:14,464
and by that time that I
got signed at Acuff Rose,
1038
00:57:14,465 --> 00:57:18,802
Dean was a songwriting icon
in this town.
1039
00:57:18,803 --> 00:57:20,937
I knew that Kenny loved Dean,
1040
00:57:20,938 --> 00:57:23,139
so one day Dean
was in the office,
1041
00:57:23,140 --> 00:57:25,609
and I'm like, hey, we got
this Kenny Chesney kid,
1042
00:57:25,610 --> 00:57:27,577
man, I think it's gonna work.
1043
00:57:27,578 --> 00:57:28,945
Well, of course I'll write
with him,
1044
00:57:28,946 --> 00:57:32,281
man, he's an East Tennessee boy,
he's a brother.
1045
00:57:32,282 --> 00:57:34,785
So I played him this
song called "The Tin Man"
1046
00:57:34,852 --> 00:57:36,520
that Kenny had written.
1047
00:57:36,521 --> 00:57:39,088
He listened all the way
through it very patiently,
1048
00:57:39,089 --> 00:57:40,824
as Dean can do when he wants to
1049
00:57:40,825 --> 00:57:42,892
and at the end of it he said,
1050
00:57:42,893 --> 00:57:44,661
I believe
I'll write with that boy.
1051
00:57:44,662 --> 00:57:46,263
We played him a song
"The Tin Man,"
1052
00:57:46,330 --> 00:57:47,564
and he wants to write with you.
1053
00:57:47,565 --> 00:57:49,499
And I went, oh, I remember
driving in,
1054
00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:51,400
I had a little apartment
out in Mount Julia,
1055
00:57:51,401 --> 00:57:53,002
Tennessee, and I was driving
into town,
1056
00:57:53,003 --> 00:57:54,771
scared to death.
1057
00:57:54,772 --> 00:57:57,073
Kenny comes in, he's
got his guitar, man,
1058
00:57:57,074 --> 00:57:58,407
he's torn all to pieces,
he's gonna write
1059
00:57:58,408 --> 00:58:01,244
with the Dean Dillon.
1060
00:58:01,245 --> 00:58:03,012
And I was beating around
on the guitar like that,
1061
00:58:03,013 --> 00:58:05,749
but when I walked in the
room, Dean didn't even really
1062
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:07,751
look at me, he was staring out
the window,
1063
00:58:07,752 --> 00:58:09,686
he was smoking a cigarette.
1064
00:58:09,687 --> 00:58:11,354
Even though it was a
non-smoking building,
1065
00:58:11,355 --> 00:58:13,857
he was smoking a cigarette,
looking out the window,
1066
00:58:13,858 --> 00:58:16,359
and Kenny's talking about ideas.
1067
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,927
You know, I just know we're
gonna write
1068
00:58:17,928 --> 00:58:19,729
something great today.
1069
00:58:19,730 --> 00:58:23,499
And he was rubbing his
chin like this, you know,
1070
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:24,534
and you could tell he was deep
1071
00:58:24,535 --> 00:58:26,235
into thought on something.
1072
00:58:26,236 --> 00:58:29,773
And I turned around and I do
this yawn.
1073
00:58:29,774 --> 00:58:33,944
He goes, Chesney,
hang on a minute.
1074
00:58:35,079 --> 00:58:37,815
He goes, you're gonna have to
give me time
1075
00:58:37,882 --> 00:58:40,784
to get down on your level.
1076
00:58:40,785 --> 00:58:43,186
And man, he looks at
me and that jaw drops
1077
00:58:43,187 --> 00:58:44,988
and I bust out laughing.
1078
00:58:44,989 --> 00:58:46,289
It was awesome.
1079
00:58:46,290 --> 00:58:49,192
I mean, for Kenny, I
can't imagine how he felt
1080
00:58:49,193 --> 00:58:52,062
at the moment, but it was
honestly the very beginning
1081
00:58:52,162 --> 00:58:55,364
of what has become this
brotherly relationship
1082
00:58:55,365 --> 00:58:57,702
between the two of them.
1083
00:59:00,738 --> 00:59:04,273
Song, one song of Dean's
that we had a big hit on
1084
00:59:04,274 --> 00:59:08,078
with Kenny was called
"A Lot of Things Different."
1085
00:59:08,278 --> 00:59:10,346
♪ I'd have spent
a lot more time ♪
1086
00:59:10,347 --> 00:59:14,551
♪ In the pouring rain
without an umbrella ♪
1087
00:59:15,853 --> 00:59:18,889
♪ Covering my head
1088
00:59:22,660 --> 00:59:24,460
♪ And I'd stood up
to that bully ♪
1089
00:59:24,461 --> 00:59:28,032
♪ When he pushed
and called me names ♪
1090
00:59:29,199 --> 00:59:31,000
♪ But I was too afraid
1091
00:59:31,001 --> 00:59:34,639
Buddy Cann is my record
producer, and he's a great
1092
00:59:34,705 --> 00:59:37,307
songwriter himself, and he
has really great songs since,
1093
00:59:37,374 --> 00:59:39,943
so when Buddy sends me a song,
1094
00:59:39,944 --> 00:59:42,912
he rarely sells it, you know.
1095
00:59:42,913 --> 00:59:45,214
He doesn't say, you've
really gotta hear this.
1096
00:59:45,215 --> 00:59:46,549
He just sends it to me
just to see
1097
00:59:46,550 --> 00:59:48,853
what I think and feel about
it when I listen to it.
1098
00:59:49,019 --> 00:59:51,387
But on "A Lot of Things
Different," Buddy goes,
1099
00:59:51,388 --> 00:59:53,990
you really need to sit
down and listen to this.
1100
00:59:53,991 --> 00:59:55,759
It's gonna take a minute
to get through it,
1101
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,362
but this is just
classic Dean Dillon.
1102
00:59:59,363 --> 01:00:07,705
♪ Oh I, I'd done
a lot of things different ♪
1103
01:00:14,645 --> 01:00:17,380
♪ I wish I'd a spent
more time on my dad ♪
1104
01:00:17,381 --> 01:00:19,349
♪ When he was alive
1105
01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:26,090
♪ Now I don't have the chance
1106
01:00:28,158 --> 01:00:30,293
♪ And I wish
I'd a told my brother ♪
1107
01:00:30,294 --> 01:00:31,427
♪ How much I loved him
1108
01:00:31,428 --> 01:00:34,164
♪ Before he went off to war
1109
01:00:36,300 --> 01:00:40,070
♪ But I just shook his hand
1110
01:00:42,372 --> 01:00:45,642
They pitched that song
to Tim McGraw.
1111
01:00:46,243 --> 01:00:51,748
McGraw put it on hold
and ended up
1112
01:00:51,749 --> 01:00:55,151
not recording it, and Kenny
heard the song
1113
01:00:55,152 --> 01:00:56,953
and he wanted to cut it,
so we cut it
1114
01:00:56,954 --> 01:01:00,857
and it became one of the
biggest things we had.
1115
01:01:00,858 --> 01:01:04,327
I went and saw Bruce
Springsteen in Orlando
1116
01:01:04,328 --> 01:01:08,865
at the arena there,
and I was talking to Bruce
1117
01:01:08,866 --> 01:01:13,069
in catering and he
goes, that song of yours
1118
01:01:13,070 --> 01:01:14,637
"A Lot of Things Different,"
he goes,
1119
01:01:14,638 --> 01:01:16,472
I absolutely love that song.
1120
01:01:16,473 --> 01:01:17,907
He goes, did you write it?
1121
01:01:17,908 --> 01:01:19,844
And I said, no, but one of my
best friends in the world did.
1122
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:21,577
And his name's Dean Dillon.
1123
01:01:21,578 --> 01:01:24,714
And you could just tell
that Bruce
1124
01:01:24,715 --> 01:01:27,516
was thinking
about that composition
1125
01:01:27,517 --> 01:01:28,852
and how it was put together,
1126
01:01:28,853 --> 01:01:31,488
and he told me how much
he really loved that song,
1127
01:01:31,555 --> 01:01:34,324
and I called Dean first thing,
I said,
1128
01:01:34,391 --> 01:01:36,592
Dean, you're never gonna believe
1129
01:01:36,593 --> 01:01:39,429
who just told me they love
"A Lot of Things Different."
1130
01:01:41,165 --> 01:01:43,700
♪ On and on, oh I
1131
01:01:48,739 --> 01:01:52,642
♪ I'd done
a lot of things different ♪
1132
01:01:55,012 --> 01:01:57,613
Dean and I wrote a lot of
songs together after that.
1133
01:01:57,614 --> 01:01:59,949
And I was going through
one of the worst periods
1134
01:01:59,950 --> 01:02:01,517
so far in my life.
1135
01:02:01,518 --> 01:02:04,754
There's a thing in Nashville
1136
01:02:04,755 --> 01:02:08,225
amongst songwriters is we
always try
1137
01:02:08,292 --> 01:02:10,194
to get the guy going through
the divorce
1138
01:02:10,294 --> 01:02:13,530
'cause he's got some good
stuff to write about.
1139
01:02:13,630 --> 01:02:16,000
And that's what we do
and it's kinda funny,
1140
01:02:16,566 --> 01:02:19,569
kinda sad in a way, but it's
the truth.
1141
01:02:20,070 --> 01:02:21,637
You know,
that heart's wide open,
1142
01:02:21,638 --> 01:02:23,472
bleeding like a sucker, man,
and you know,
1143
01:02:23,473 --> 01:02:25,776
you can get some great songs
outta guys
1144
01:02:25,843 --> 01:02:28,377
when they're going through
an emotional roller coaster.
1145
01:02:28,378 --> 01:02:30,980
I was on my boat in
the Virgin Islands a lot
1146
01:02:30,981 --> 01:02:33,950
and I wrote a bunch of songs on
that boat.
1147
01:02:33,951 --> 01:02:36,352
Some that I finished
and threw in the ocean.
1148
01:02:36,353 --> 01:02:40,189
But Dean came down and
we wrote, got the guitar,
1149
01:02:40,190 --> 01:02:42,859
messed around, we wrote a
song called, "I'm Alive,"
1150
01:02:42,860 --> 01:02:44,760
right there that morning,
setting on my boat
1151
01:02:44,761 --> 01:02:47,897
and Willie Nelson cut and I
recorded on my Lucky Old Sun
1152
01:02:47,898 --> 01:02:53,036
record, ended up being a
duet with Dave Matthews.
1153
01:02:53,037 --> 01:02:58,108
♪ Today's the first day
of the rest of my life ♪
1154
01:02:58,242 --> 01:03:01,110
♪ And I'm alive
1155
01:03:01,111 --> 01:03:05,781
♪ And well, I'm alive and well
1156
01:03:11,521 --> 01:03:17,793
♪ The stars are dancin'
on the water here tonight ♪
1157
01:03:17,794 --> 01:03:23,499
♪ It's good for the soul when
there's not a soul in sight ♪
1158
01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:28,737
♪ This boat has caught its wind
and brought me back to life ♪
1159
01:03:28,738 --> 01:03:34,278
♪ Now I'm alive and well
1160
01:03:34,644 --> 01:03:36,779
The other night I was
honored at the BMI Awards
1161
01:03:36,780 --> 01:03:39,715
with the president's award,
and Dean got up there
1162
01:03:39,716 --> 01:03:42,986
with his guitar and had his
sunglasses on
1163
01:03:42,987 --> 01:03:46,223
and sat down like he does,
you know,
1164
01:03:47,091 --> 01:03:51,027
and spoke about our
friendship and sang that song
1165
01:03:51,028 --> 01:03:54,363
in front of me, and it's
hard, it is really hard
1166
01:03:54,364 --> 01:03:56,599
to rattle my cage now, I mean,
1167
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,435
emotionally in public.
1168
01:03:59,536 --> 01:04:01,570
But Dean started
singing that song
1169
01:04:01,571 --> 01:04:03,406
and he got through the
first verse and the chorus
1170
01:04:03,407 --> 01:04:08,277
and he literally disarmed me.
1171
01:04:08,278 --> 01:04:14,683
♪ It's times like these
1172
01:04:14,684 --> 01:04:20,290
♪ I wish I were a tin man
1173
01:04:21,625 --> 01:04:26,763
♪ You could hurt me
all you wanted ♪
1174
01:04:28,198 --> 01:04:33,070
♪ And I'd never even know
1175
01:04:35,739 --> 01:04:40,110
♪ I'd give anything
1176
01:04:41,811 --> 01:04:47,284
♪ Oh, just to be a tin man
1177
01:04:49,653 --> 01:04:55,025
♪ And I wouldn't
have a problem ♪
1178
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,930
♪ And I wouldn't need a soul
1179
01:05:01,932 --> 01:05:04,833
I mean, I just lost everything.
1180
01:05:04,834 --> 01:05:06,169
So there I am with my
girlfriend,
1181
01:05:06,170 --> 01:05:08,337
my family, my mother and a lot
of people
1182
01:05:08,338 --> 01:05:10,139
around these tables that meant
a lot to me
1183
01:05:10,140 --> 01:05:13,242
in my life and know how much
this moment means to me,
1184
01:05:13,243 --> 01:05:16,913
the fact that Dean Dillon
one of my oldest songwriting
1185
01:05:16,981 --> 01:05:20,184
pals ever is singing this song
for me.
1186
01:05:21,285 --> 01:05:23,919
It was a very emotional moment.
1187
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,791
♪ ...miss you so
1188
01:05:35,065 --> 01:05:36,766
Love you, brother.
1189
01:05:48,312 --> 01:05:51,747
Dean's probably
my favorite writer.
1190
01:05:51,748 --> 01:05:56,519
And he deserves every bit
of accolades he ever gets
1191
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,455
and he hasn't got the
ones he deserves yet,
1192
01:05:59,456 --> 01:06:01,725
but we're working on it.
1193
01:06:01,825 --> 01:06:07,363
Toby and Scotty hook up and
are writing
1194
01:06:07,364 --> 01:06:11,068
all these monstrous records
for Toby,
1195
01:06:11,135 --> 01:06:13,536
"Whiskey for My Men,
Beer For My Horses,"
1196
01:06:13,537 --> 01:06:16,772
"I Love This Bar,"
all that Toby Keith stuff,
1197
01:06:16,773 --> 01:06:20,076
Scotty's sitting right there
with Toby writing his stuff.
1198
01:06:20,077 --> 01:06:23,679
♪ We'll raise up our glasses
against evil forces ♪
1199
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:28,218
♪ Singing "Whiskey for my men,
beer for my horses" ♪
1200
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:32,355
Dean is one of my best
friends in the world
1201
01:06:32,356 --> 01:06:36,892
and I'm very fortunate to
have a good friend like him
1202
01:06:36,893 --> 01:06:40,129
and he feels the same way
about me,
1203
01:06:40,130 --> 01:06:44,034
I've heard him say, but I like
being around talented people
1204
01:06:45,335 --> 01:06:48,971
and feeding off that, and
he's definitely, probably
1205
01:06:48,972 --> 01:06:51,640
the most talented I've ever
been around.
1206
01:06:51,641 --> 01:06:53,709
Scotty said I always
wanna get you two together.
1207
01:06:53,710 --> 01:06:55,511
You're my two favorites to
write with,
1208
01:06:55,512 --> 01:06:57,080
and I always wanted
to get you two
1209
01:06:57,081 --> 01:06:58,381
in the same room.
1210
01:06:58,382 --> 01:07:00,416
We started having some
success together,
1211
01:07:00,417 --> 01:07:05,189
the three of us, and I owe that
all to Scotty Emerick, man.
1212
01:07:05,522 --> 01:07:08,057
And then you know, like
I said, I found out
1213
01:07:08,058 --> 01:07:11,528
what kinda guy Toby is, and
just a great,
1214
01:07:11,828 --> 01:07:16,932
again, Toby sets himself
apart from everybody else.
1215
01:07:16,933 --> 01:07:18,567
Toby was always
a Dean Dillon fan
1216
01:07:18,568 --> 01:07:22,338
and I wanted to bring Dean out
1217
01:07:22,339 --> 01:07:26,309
and meet Toby and us
write a song together.
1218
01:07:26,310 --> 01:07:28,711
Me and him and Scotty got the
best room
1219
01:07:28,712 --> 01:07:31,080
we could find in Albuquerque,
1220
01:07:31,081 --> 01:07:36,085
and it was the best room we
could find.
1221
01:07:36,086 --> 01:07:39,455
And we holed up for three
days and ate green chili...
1222
01:07:39,456 --> 01:07:42,659
enchiladas, me and Scotty
had a couple Coronas,
1223
01:07:42,726 --> 01:07:46,895
Dean stayed straight and
we wrote about six songs.
1224
01:07:46,896 --> 01:07:50,099
We wrote "It's a Little
Too Late," number one.
1225
01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:52,701
♪ It's a little too late
1226
01:07:52,702 --> 01:07:55,271
♪ I'm a little too gone
1227
01:07:55,272 --> 01:07:59,309
♪ Little too tired
of this hanging on ♪
1228
01:07:59,609 --> 01:08:02,578
♪ So I'm letting you go
1229
01:08:02,579 --> 01:08:06,350
♪ while I'm still
strong enough to ♪
1230
01:08:06,783 --> 01:08:10,085
And from that point forward,
it happened quite often
1231
01:08:10,086 --> 01:08:12,855
and it became a friendship.
1232
01:08:12,856 --> 01:08:16,024
And he's written some
just monstrous records,
1233
01:08:16,025 --> 01:08:21,431
you know, and then on top
of that, he's overseas
1234
01:08:22,031 --> 01:08:26,170
touring during the Afghanistan
wars and going to play
1235
01:08:26,236 --> 01:08:29,572
for our soldiers in Iraq
and Afghanistan
1236
01:08:29,573 --> 01:08:31,940
and wherever the hell
those generals want him to
1237
01:08:31,941 --> 01:08:36,180
go over there and play,
and just doing a great
1238
01:08:36,246 --> 01:08:38,714
job of it over there, you know,
supporting
1239
01:08:38,715 --> 01:08:41,517
our troops,
playing for our troops.
1240
01:08:41,518 --> 01:08:43,452
I wanna salute the families
of the boys and girls
1241
01:08:43,453 --> 01:08:46,255
that are proud enough to
wear my country's uniform.
1242
01:08:46,256 --> 01:08:48,592
They're also present tonight.
1243
01:08:49,759 --> 01:08:52,060
Thank you for your sacrifice.
1244
01:08:52,061 --> 01:08:56,965
I took him, Bobby Penson,
and Scotty and three
1245
01:08:56,966 --> 01:08:58,801
or four other writers
down to my house
1246
01:08:58,802 --> 01:09:00,403
for writer's retreat in Cabo.
1247
01:09:00,404 --> 01:09:03,840
And we wrote about 20 songs
and me and Dean and Bobby
1248
01:09:03,940 --> 01:09:06,709
wrote the latest single I have,
1249
01:09:06,710 --> 01:09:08,344
which is "A Few More Cowboys."
1250
01:09:08,345 --> 01:09:10,012
Now, I don't know if they'll
still play
1251
01:09:10,013 --> 01:09:11,847
a country song on the radio
anymore,
1252
01:09:11,848 --> 01:09:17,152
but what we need I think
we got it, but what we need
1253
01:09:17,153 --> 01:09:21,156
is a few more cowboys.
Figure this shit out.
1254
01:09:35,872 --> 01:09:39,041
♪ If the White House
was in Texas, man ♪
1255
01:09:39,042 --> 01:09:40,943
♪ We'd get a straighter answer
1256
01:09:40,944 --> 01:09:44,046
♪ If they'd let us smoke
what we want ♪
1257
01:09:44,047 --> 01:09:46,550
♪ We'd have a lot less cancer
1258
01:09:46,616 --> 01:09:48,784
♪ There'd be much more daddies
1259
01:09:48,785 --> 01:09:51,488
♪ Sons could be proud of
1260
01:09:51,621 --> 01:09:53,022
♪ We'd have half the crime
1261
01:09:54,090 --> 01:09:56,058
♪ We'd have twice the fun
1262
01:09:56,059 --> 01:09:58,427
♪ With a few more cowboys
1263
01:09:58,428 --> 01:10:00,664
♪ Be a lot less outlaws
1264
01:10:00,764 --> 01:10:03,466
♪ With a few more amens
1265
01:10:03,467 --> 01:10:06,034
♪ Be a lot less bad calls
1266
01:10:06,035 --> 01:10:08,404
♪ With a few more yes ma'ams
1267
01:10:08,405 --> 01:10:11,808
♪ And a lot less yes men
1268
01:10:11,875 --> 01:10:16,413
♪ This world would be
a better place to live in ♪
1269
01:10:16,480 --> 01:10:20,283
♪ With a few more cowboys
1270
01:10:20,284 --> 01:10:22,251
The president of the
label I'm at right now
1271
01:10:22,252 --> 01:10:24,853
told my manager the other day,
he goes,
1272
01:10:24,854 --> 01:10:28,625
I don't know if they'll still
play country on the radio
1273
01:10:29,893 --> 01:10:33,195
but this song Toby, Dean,
and Bobby wrote
1274
01:10:33,196 --> 01:10:35,097
is as good as Toby can do.
1275
01:10:35,098 --> 01:10:37,801
He goes, if this song would've
been in his wheelhouse
1276
01:10:37,867 --> 01:10:43,272
of 22 year career, when
there was a period of time,
1277
01:10:43,273 --> 01:10:46,809
a four and a half year,
four year period of time
1278
01:10:46,810 --> 01:10:49,045
we spent 51 weeks at
number one on Billboard.
1279
01:10:49,145 --> 01:10:53,181
I had a single, 51 weeks in
four year period of time,
1280
01:10:53,182 --> 01:10:54,917
it's about a quarter of the time
1281
01:10:54,918 --> 01:10:57,052
we're sitting number one,
and we were
1282
01:10:57,053 --> 01:10:58,521
writing 'em
and spitting 'em out.
1283
01:10:58,522 --> 01:10:59,855
"Beer and My Horses,"
"I Love This Bar,"
1284
01:10:59,856 --> 01:11:00,889
"America's Soldier,"
"Good As I Once Was,"
1285
01:11:00,890 --> 01:11:02,925
Just every time we come out,
1286
01:11:02,926 --> 01:11:05,061
this would've been
one of those songs.
1287
01:11:05,529 --> 01:11:09,031
And you know,
Mike Dungin was like,
1288
01:11:09,032 --> 01:11:12,368
this is like
"Beer For My Horses."
1289
01:11:12,369 --> 01:11:15,037
It was a six week number one
and this one
1290
01:11:15,038 --> 01:11:17,039
struggles on the charts you
know, because
1291
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,574
they just don't play it no more,
1292
01:11:18,575 --> 01:11:19,942
and I'm not gonna be one of
those guys
1293
01:11:19,943 --> 01:11:23,712
that sit around and
say that the young guys
1294
01:11:23,713 --> 01:11:25,681
that they're not playing
country anymore,
1295
01:11:25,682 --> 01:11:27,583
it's what it is.
1296
01:11:27,584 --> 01:11:29,653
♪ And it's about high time
1297
01:11:29,719 --> 01:11:31,887
♪ We looked 'em in the eye
1298
01:11:31,888 --> 01:11:34,523
♪ Get our head out of the sand
1299
01:11:34,524 --> 01:11:37,192
♪ Hit 'em with
a big John Wayne ♪
1300
01:11:37,193 --> 01:11:39,161
♪ By God they'd understand
1301
01:11:39,162 --> 01:11:41,531
♪ With a few more cowboys
1302
01:11:41,598 --> 01:11:43,899
♪ Be a lot less outlaws
1303
01:11:43,900 --> 01:11:46,702
♪ With a few more amens
1304
01:11:46,703 --> 01:11:49,071
♪ Be a lot less bad calls
1305
01:11:49,072 --> 01:11:51,740
♪ With a few more yes ma'ams
1306
01:11:51,741 --> 01:11:54,910
♪ And a lot less yes men
1307
01:11:54,911 --> 01:11:59,449
♪ This world would be
a better place to live in ♪
1308
01:11:59,749 --> 01:12:02,318
♪ With a few more cowboys
1309
01:12:02,386 --> 01:12:04,987
Over the last 30 plus years,
1310
01:12:04,988 --> 01:12:07,456
I've watched a lot
of ebb and flow
1311
01:12:07,457 --> 01:12:08,992
in the music business.
1312
01:12:09,058 --> 01:12:11,927
We're in a season now,
and we've been in a season
1313
01:12:11,928 --> 01:12:14,863
where the music's changed
pretty dramatically again.
1314
01:12:14,864 --> 01:12:19,067
Lyrical output, if you will,
is a more,
1315
01:12:19,068 --> 01:12:23,472
I'll say, kind of, college fun
type lyric
1316
01:12:23,473 --> 01:12:26,909
and some refer to it
as bro country.
1317
01:12:26,910 --> 01:12:28,110
I mean, let the kids rock, man.
1318
01:12:28,111 --> 01:12:30,278
That's, if that's what
Nashville wants to sell,
1319
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:32,114
that's what the industry wants
to sell,
1320
01:12:32,115 --> 01:12:33,549
let 'em sell it, it's cool,
1321
01:12:33,550 --> 01:12:35,083
let 'em go do their thing,
1322
01:12:35,084 --> 01:12:37,152
make their money, we still
get to come out here at night,
1323
01:12:37,153 --> 01:12:40,589
play to sold out concerts,
those songs'll never go away.
1324
01:12:40,590 --> 01:12:42,290
We got under the tent
just in time
1325
01:12:42,291 --> 01:12:45,594
and when our circus was
going on, we were killing it.
1326
01:12:45,595 --> 01:12:48,964
We were the elephants and the
trapeze artist and the lion.
1327
01:12:48,965 --> 01:12:50,399
We owned it.
1328
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,334
And let these guys own what
they own,
1329
01:12:52,335 --> 01:12:54,670
but we're not gonna switch to
hip hop.
1330
01:12:54,671 --> 01:12:57,440
And if they're wanna do, if
everything's gotta be hip hop,
1331
01:12:57,441 --> 01:13:00,609
and bro country,
or whatever they call it,
1332
01:13:00,610 --> 01:13:03,679
let 'em be, man, but
me and Dean and Scotty
1333
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,715
and Bobby Penson, you
know, all my old guys,
1334
01:13:06,716 --> 01:13:09,151
we're all gonna be sitting
around still trying to write
1335
01:13:09,152 --> 01:13:11,621
that one country song that
everybody has to listen to,
1336
01:13:11,688 --> 01:13:13,622
so, and that's our challenge
now,
1337
01:13:13,623 --> 01:13:17,226
and we accomplished
everything else.
1338
01:13:17,293 --> 01:13:18,994
A couple years ago,
man, I had to come back
1339
01:13:18,995 --> 01:13:21,263
out on the road again.
1340
01:13:21,264 --> 01:13:24,000
Here I sit, you know?
1341
01:13:25,234 --> 01:13:27,670
Two years removed from
being able to concentrate
1342
01:13:27,671 --> 01:13:30,773
solely on writing songs,
I'm back out here
1343
01:13:30,774 --> 01:13:35,478
on the road playing clubs
and bars, anywhere they'll
1344
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:39,148
you know, pay for me to play.
1345
01:13:39,483 --> 01:13:42,185
He's right, and if I cut
the best song in the world
1346
01:13:42,251 --> 01:13:46,088
right now, I don't think
the radio'll play it, either.
1347
01:13:46,089 --> 01:13:48,323
So I see where he's coming from.
1348
01:13:48,324 --> 01:13:51,360
You know, and I always
said to myself
1349
01:13:51,427 --> 01:13:54,531
I'm not gonna be mad
when that happens to me,
1350
01:13:54,598 --> 01:13:56,398
because I saw it
happen to Merle,
1351
01:13:56,399 --> 01:14:03,606
I saw it happen to George,
and other artists, you know,
1352
01:14:03,607 --> 01:14:05,908
the radio just quit playing 'em.
1353
01:14:05,909 --> 01:14:11,079
I was going, what the hell,
where's Merle's records
1354
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,650
this month or this year or what?
1355
01:14:14,651 --> 01:14:17,186
I still wanted to hear 'em.
1356
01:14:17,420 --> 01:14:20,789
And so that's the kinda
thing that happened
1357
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:21,725
to me as well.
1358
01:14:22,125 --> 01:14:24,494
One thing that is for sure.
1359
01:14:24,861 --> 01:14:30,198
Great song... Artists come
and go, phases come and go,
1360
01:14:30,199 --> 01:14:34,369
but great songs that touch
people never go out of style.
1361
01:14:34,370 --> 01:14:38,541
I'm very proud that guys
like Dean Dillon still
1362
01:14:38,542 --> 01:14:40,308
write songs, because
I'm still the kinda guy
1363
01:14:40,309 --> 01:14:42,545
that wants to record
those songs.
1364
01:14:42,546 --> 01:14:44,346
Here's the thing
about Dean Dillon.
1365
01:14:44,347 --> 01:14:46,850
He still wants to make
music and he still wants
1366
01:14:46,916 --> 01:14:50,619
to make music that other
people can hear and enjoy.
1367
01:14:50,620 --> 01:14:54,157
So there will always be,
always, a spot
1368
01:14:54,223 --> 01:14:57,025
for Dean Dillon whether
it's a song that he wrote
1369
01:14:57,026 --> 01:15:00,128
30 years ago that gets re-recorded
or whether it's a song
1370
01:15:00,129 --> 01:15:04,567
that he writes this morning,
there will always be a space
1371
01:15:04,568 --> 01:15:06,536
a place, for Dean Dillon.
1372
01:15:07,003 --> 01:15:10,105
The Nashville sound
meets the soul of Memphis.
1373
01:15:10,106 --> 01:15:12,975
Get your feet, Nashville,
for it's Chris Stapleton
1374
01:15:12,976 --> 01:15:14,777
and it's Justin Timberlake.
1375
01:15:31,795 --> 01:15:36,332
♪ Used to spend my nights
out in a barroom ♪
1376
01:15:40,103 --> 01:15:44,608
♪ Liquor was the only
love I've known ♪
1377
01:15:48,544 --> 01:15:52,448
♪ But you rescued me
from reachin' for the bottom ♪
1378
01:15:52,916 --> 01:15:55,317
I'd had this idea
for a long time
1379
01:15:55,318 --> 01:15:57,654
called "Tennessee Whiskey."
1380
01:15:57,954 --> 01:16:01,157
♪ ...being too far gone
1381
01:16:01,324 --> 01:16:03,726
You're as smooth
as Tennessee Whiskey.
1382
01:16:03,727 --> 01:16:09,698
♪ You're as smooth
as Tennessee whiskey ♪
1383
01:16:09,699 --> 01:16:11,734
You're as sweet
as strawberry wine.
1384
01:16:11,735 --> 01:16:18,040
♪ You're as sweet
as strawberry wine ♪
1385
01:16:18,041 --> 01:16:20,376
You're as warm
as a glass of brandy.
1386
01:16:20,443 --> 01:16:26,649
♪ You're as warm
as a glass of brandy ♪
1387
01:16:26,650 --> 01:16:29,351
And I stay stoned
on your love all the time.
1388
01:16:29,352 --> 01:16:34,691
♪ And I stay stoned
on your love all the time ♪
1389
01:16:38,828 --> 01:16:40,528
A little "Tennessee Whiskey" I'd
like to sing for you this evening.
1390
01:16:43,132 --> 01:16:44,833
Hell of a song.
1391
01:16:44,834 --> 01:16:46,134
Well, he wrote it.
1392
01:16:51,107 --> 01:16:54,442
I think the first person
I pitched "Tennessee Whiskey"
1393
01:16:54,443 --> 01:16:56,646
to was this guy.
1394
01:16:57,881 --> 01:17:00,283
It was, and I turned it down.
1395
01:17:01,918 --> 01:17:05,420
I made it priority
that anything I thought
1396
01:17:05,421 --> 01:17:09,758
was any good
that he heard it first.
1397
01:17:09,759 --> 01:17:13,295
The first time I heard George
do it,
1398
01:17:13,296 --> 01:17:16,531
I thought, wow,
that's a great song,
1399
01:17:16,532 --> 01:17:18,500
I might've screwed up there.
1400
01:17:18,501 --> 01:17:20,068
I would've bet the farm,
so to speak,
1401
01:17:20,069 --> 01:17:21,970
that he would cut that
song, and he heard it
1402
01:17:21,971 --> 01:17:24,373
and he goes, I think I'll pass.
1403
01:17:25,208 --> 01:17:31,981
♪ And you're as smooth
as Tennessee Whiskey ♪
1404
01:17:32,381 --> 01:17:35,083
That was a dream come true,
because to me
1405
01:17:35,084 --> 01:17:38,153
the big four were George
Jones, Merle Haggard,
1406
01:17:38,154 --> 01:17:41,857
Johnny Cash, and Loretta Lynn
1407
01:17:41,858 --> 01:17:44,192
and if you could get a cut
on those four,
1408
01:17:44,193 --> 01:17:47,296
man, you'd won the lottery.
1409
01:17:47,363 --> 01:17:50,265
That song's been recorded
by how many people now?
1410
01:17:50,266 --> 01:17:52,601
And then this crazy
guy comes on the scene
1411
01:17:52,668 --> 01:17:55,838
in country music and his
name's David Allen Coe.
1412
01:17:55,839 --> 01:17:58,540
Motherfucker, open the gate!
1413
01:17:58,541 --> 01:18:02,144
Brad Paisley cut that
song and put it on an album.
1414
01:18:02,145 --> 01:18:05,714
And then a guy called
Chris Stapleton gets a call
1415
01:18:05,715 --> 01:18:07,482
from Justin Timberlake.
1416
01:18:07,483 --> 01:18:13,488
♪ Nothing like your love
to get me high ♪
1417
01:18:13,489 --> 01:18:15,891
Climbs to number one on iTunes,
1418
01:18:15,892 --> 01:18:17,559
he sells a million records.
1419
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:21,030
♪ Tennessee Whiskey
1420
01:18:21,865 --> 01:18:28,471
♪ You're as sweet
as strawberry wine ♪
1421
01:18:29,538 --> 01:18:35,243
♪ And you're as warm
as a glass ♪
1422
01:18:35,244 --> 01:18:37,446
My wife loved the paycheck.
1423
01:18:39,215 --> 01:18:45,054
♪ And I stay stoned
on your love all time ♪
1424
01:18:47,123 --> 01:18:48,924
It was a hell of a song, Dean.
1425
01:18:48,925 --> 01:18:50,158
Good song.
1426
01:18:50,159 --> 01:18:51,459
My bad.
1427
01:18:53,162 --> 01:18:55,563
So anyway, here's another
song that Dean wrote
1428
01:18:55,564 --> 01:18:58,534
that I was fortunate enough
to cut, so...
1429
01:19:01,704 --> 01:19:03,038
Beautiful song.
1430
01:19:19,255 --> 01:19:25,327
♪ I burn with desire each time
my heart fans the fire ♪
1431
01:19:25,328 --> 01:19:32,068
♪ To that old flame
that burns inside of me. ♪
1432
01:19:33,903 --> 01:19:39,842
♪ Nobody in his right mind
would've left her ♪
1433
01:19:39,843 --> 01:19:45,180
♪ Even my heart was smart enough
to stay behind ♪
1434
01:19:45,181 --> 01:19:49,751
Dean, everybody in here knows
how special our relationship
1435
01:19:49,752 --> 01:19:53,455
has been throughout the
years, and I wanna thank you
1436
01:19:53,456 --> 01:19:55,457
for that and thank you
for being a friend to me
1437
01:19:55,458 --> 01:20:02,230
and sending me songs when
nobody knew who I was or nothing
1438
01:20:02,231 --> 01:20:05,434
and you took a chance sending
your songs out there with me
1439
01:20:05,501 --> 01:20:07,269
and I really appreciate that.
1440
01:20:07,270 --> 01:20:10,738
♪ Each night finds me dreamin'
1441
01:20:10,739 --> 01:20:14,110
I live, eat, sleep,
and breathe songs.
1442
01:20:14,743 --> 01:20:16,946
It's all I've ever done.
1443
01:20:17,013 --> 01:20:18,881
It's all I ever loved.
1444
01:20:18,882 --> 01:20:21,217
♪ ...she was still around
1445
01:20:21,450 --> 01:20:25,955
And in the immortal words
of Hank Cochran,
1446
01:20:26,822 --> 01:20:29,893
isn't this wonderful?
1447
01:20:31,294 --> 01:20:34,998
♪ Still around
1448
01:20:41,905 --> 01:20:43,571
Dean Dillon.
1449
01:21:04,860 --> 01:21:07,495
♪ Flowed through my veins
1450
01:21:07,496 --> 01:21:10,298
♪ Since I was born
1451
01:21:10,299 --> 01:21:12,535
♪ Turns you cold
1452
01:21:13,069 --> 01:21:15,770
♪ Keeps you warm
1453
01:21:15,771 --> 01:21:20,143
♪ There's no escape,
it won't leave you alone ♪
1454
01:21:20,843 --> 01:21:23,980
♪ When you're a song
1455
01:21:25,915 --> 01:21:28,716
♪ You're so blessed
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01:21:28,717 --> 01:21:31,354
♪ Yet so cursed
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♪ 'Cause every breath
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♪ Is another verse
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♪ You hurt like hell,
the whole world sings along ♪
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♪ When you're a song
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