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Doctor. Phil mccombs,
Washington post.
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Thank you. Good to see you.
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Thank you for taking the time.
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So, when you take them out,
you don't see anything?
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No, you don't see anything.
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I-I-I mean, of all the thousands
of second trimester abortions
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that I've done, I mean,
maybe I've seen half a dozen.
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But didn't it bother you
when you did?
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No, not particularly.
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It was the end product;
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a lifeless,
limp thing lying there.
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They have a human form.
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Oh, absolutely.
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I-I-I'm sorry.
I-I'm a little bit confused.
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Uh.
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First you said,
"all you see is bloody meat."
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Hm-mm.
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But now you're saying
you always knew it was a person.
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So doctor,
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which one is it?
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I didn't know what to say.
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I felt I was caught in a lie.
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So, you have to understand,
it was the '70s.
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The women's liberation
movement was exploding.
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Millions of women
were taking to the streets,
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and I got swept up in the way.
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Saying now
that anything after eight weeks
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is murder, which I'm all for.
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I'm protesting the protesters.
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Proverbs 14:12.
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"There is a way
that seems right unto man,
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but in the end thereof,
the way is death."
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Well, sir,
I was in the parking lot
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and I saw some people's signs
and I said,
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"what's happening today?"
And they said,
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"they're protesting
the governor's decision."
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I don't want
a bunch of old white dudes
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regulating my body.
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I want us to stand up
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for the innocent lives
of children
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that are being aborted
in the womb,
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and to stop the bloodshed.
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I mean, in proportion,
12-year-olds can get abortions
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in public schools
and without parental consent.
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That's happened in the states.
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In Virginia, if you have a baby,
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they put it on a table
and they ask the parents
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do you want it to live a lie.
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My life.
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My decision!
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My life.
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My decision!
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You have to sacrifice your pawn
to save your queen.
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It all started in my 20s.
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That's Ruth, my first love.
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See, my family was Jewish
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so I tried to get them to
warm up to her.
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But I had a better chance
of beating my dad at chess.
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Check.
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Pawns are the soul of a game.
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You don't need the queen
to win the game.
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Checkmate.
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You have to sacrifice
for the greater good.
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How could I have been so stupid.
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Maybe we can get married.
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No. Not like this. Not yet.
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You do know I love you, right?
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I can't take care
of a baby right now.
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Oh, that's what you want.
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I can't tell
my family about this.
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My father won't help.
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What am I going to do, Bernie?
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Honey, it's we, and we're
in this together, okay?
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Okay.
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I would have married her,
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but she didn't want that.
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So, I gave her $500.
That way, nobody had to know.
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I never thought
I would lose Ruth.
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I became a doctor
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to make sure no girl ever
had to go through that again.
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I will give no deadly medicine,
nor suggest any such counsel;
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nor give to a woman a pessary
to procure an abortion.
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Like most doctors,
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I would violate
the hippocratic oath.
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But saving women
was all that mattered.
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I know everyone has
their own version of events.
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But if you really want to know
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how abortion became legal
in our country,
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I will tell you the true story
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of roe v. Wade.
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I wanted to get abortion
legalized across the country.
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Our master plan to do that
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started right here
in New York City.
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That's Betty friedan,
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the leader of
the women's movement.
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You see, we needed her gals
if we had any chance of winning.
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Ah-ha. Not again. Mrs. Friedan.
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The Plaza's oak room
has a 61-year tradition
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of men's only lunches.
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Well, well, well.
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If it isn't the world-famous
author of the feminine mystique,
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Mrs. Betty friedan.
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Mr. Larry lader.
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Larry was my best friend.
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He was the father
of the abortion movement.
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And he was also mentored
by Margaret sanger,
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the founder of
planned parenthood.
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Now, here's the ugly truth.
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Margaret opened clinics
in poor black neighborhoods
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and called it the negro project.
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The mass of negroes,
particularly in the south,
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still breed carelessly
and disastrously.
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The result that the increase
among negroes,
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more than among whites,
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is that portion
of the population
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least intelligent and fit.
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Her goal was to reduce
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the black population,
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either through birth control
or sterilization.
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She literally wanted to stop
black people
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from having babies altogether.
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And Larry continued her work
by launching an organization
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to legalize abortion,
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and wrote the first nationwide
book on the topic.
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Have you happened
to read my book?
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Did you prance over here
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to have me Fawn over
your vanity project?
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Cyril here works for the aclu.
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We can have him sue the Plaza
if you like.
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A girl should
not expect special privileges
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because of her sex,
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but neither should she adjust
to prejudice or discrimination.
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I-I'm Bernard.
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An obstetrician officially,
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until they get the laws
repealed.
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Cyril is also the lead counsel
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for planned parenthood.
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So, why are you boys
so worked up about abortion?
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Well, cyril is gonna head legal,
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Bernie, medical.
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I would like him
to open up a clinic.
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Larry, listen,
I've told you a million times.
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I'm not gonna ruin
my reputation over this.
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The women need your help.
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Opening a clinic
will land him in hot water
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like vuitch.
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Exactly. And I'm
much better to you out of jail.
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A bunch of disorganized men
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are gonna rid this country
of abortion restriction?
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No, no, no.
We're not disorganized, okay.
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- If Bernie...
- We're looking for
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a pregnant girl to
challenge the abortion laws.
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If New York falls,
the country falls.
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If that doesn't work,
we'll lobby the legislature.
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I guess I can provide
medical research
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to prove our opinion.
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We wanna rally
behind the women's movement
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to get the TV media on board.
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So that's why you need me.
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We need to continue
Margaret sanger's work.
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Oh, well.
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Thank you so much
for this explanation.
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But abortion
is really not our focus.
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You're gonna regret it
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when you see Gloria steinem
and Bella abzug
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hopping on board
and everybody else.
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You're our first choice.
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Yeah? Why?
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Because you're the best.
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Betty came on board
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and brought
her core of feminists.
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We all launched naral together,
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the national association
to repeal abortion laws.
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Did I tell you?
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Did I tell you?
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Looks like I started
a revolution.
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I mean... I told you,
you should open a clinic.
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Well, you know, you're probably
right about the clinic.
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But listen, I-I gotta
look after Adele and Joey, so.
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Are you not seeing this?
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Yeah, but do you really think
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we should go for full repeal?
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I say we go for
abortion on demand!
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Yeah.
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Listen, come on.
We don't need to get greedy.
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Can't we just do this for health
or if a woman gets raped?
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You know, wouldn't it
just be better for that?
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We don't need to go for
abortion on demand.
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No, no, no.
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We have to go
for the full enchilada.
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Otherwise, we'll get nothing.
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Cyril's correct.
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We can't turn a woman's body
into a business negotiation.
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You just won
a fabulous trip to London.
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It's worth over $1,000.
Congratulations, sir.
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Your dinner's in the oven,
if you wanna heat it up.
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Thank you, sweetheart.
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Like always!
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Oh, come on, not again.
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Eighteen-hour days?
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What's her name?
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Betty friedan.
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Come on, you can't take a joke?
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What you do isn't funny.
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I don't understand. A woman
doesn't support women's rights?
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I mean, you should see
what they go through.
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Then go be with them.
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Women are dying.
I'm saving lives.
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I just miss you, that's all.
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Okay, you win.
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The New York State Senate
today passed one of the nation's
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most sweeping
abortion control bills.
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Aggregates
and enemies of the bill
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brought tremendous pressures
to bear on legislators
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on the emotional issue,
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and the drama was summed up
late yesterday
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in the state assembly
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when one man's vote
made the difference.
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As New York's assembly
passed a bill
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legalizing abortions
for any reason,
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up to the 24th week
of a pregnancy,
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the decision to be made between
a woman and her physician.
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But then it became apparent
that the bill would fail
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unless one vote was changed.
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But I cannot,
in good conscience,
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stand here and thwart the
obvious majority of this house.
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I therefore request you,
Mr. Speaker,
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to change my negative vote
to an affirmative vote.
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Completely devastated,
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the pro-life senator,
Earl brydges,
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read the diary of the unborn.
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"My parents don't know it yet,"
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"I'm as small
as the seed of an apple."
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"But it's me already."
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"I'm to be a girl."
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"I shall have blonde hair
and blue eyes."
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"October 19th."
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"Some say
I'm not a real person yet,"
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"that only my mother exists."
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"But I am a real person."
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"December 13th."
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"I'm just about able to see."
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"It's-it's dark around me."
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"But what I want
more than anything."
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"Is to see my mommy."
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"December 24th."
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"I wonder if mommy."
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"Hears the whispering
of my heart."
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"It beats so evenly."
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"October 28th... December 28th."
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"Today my mommy killed me."
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The win shocked our opposition.
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I mean, no one thought
we would get abortion
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legalized in New York.
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Especially since the catholics
controlled everything there.
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How does rockefeller
appoint cyril means
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to head this committee?
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It's a conflict of interest.
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He works for planned parenthood.
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Politicians are now playing god,
261
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deciding on who has the right
to live and to die.
262
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This is Dr. Mildred Jefferson,
she is the first,
263
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uh, woman to graduate...
264
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What he's trying to say is
265
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I am the first negro woman
to graduate Harvard medical.
266
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Ellen,
I run a pro-life women's group.
267
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We, ah, tried to fight this
in Albany.
268
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Feminism is destructive.
269
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I have no philosophical
270
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or intellectual
appreciation for it.
271
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Oh, we're not feminists.
272
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And they used to be
against abortion.
273
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It's not about
women's rights either.
274
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Would you like to head up
275
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a right to life group
that I'm starting?
276
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I could write a few letters.
277
00:15:38,673 --> 00:15:40,033
There's more
that needs to be done.
278
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I could attend some rallies.
279
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Really? That's it?
280
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This will be the national
right to life committee.
281
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Father, I am
still completing my residency
282
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at Boston university.
283
00:15:53,688 --> 00:15:56,591
I will not give them
any more excuses.
284
00:15:56,624 --> 00:15:58,760
I never heard
Rosa Parks give excuses.
285
00:16:45,373 --> 00:16:48,010
I'm sorry about Ellen,
all right.
286
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She's from long island.
287
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I will not be used
for the color of my skin.
288
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I do what I do on principle,
like Don quixote.
289
00:16:58,020 --> 00:17:00,989
Look, first they came
after the Jews,
290
00:17:01,023 --> 00:17:04,827
but we weren't Jewish,
so we didn't say anything.
291
00:17:04,860 --> 00:17:07,996
And then they came
after the mentally deficient.
292
00:17:08,030 --> 00:17:12,466
But we weren't deficient
so we did nothing.
293
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And now they're comin'
after the unborn.
294
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And so you're gonna do nothing?
295
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That's a low blow.
296
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No one is coming for the unborn.
297
00:17:31,352 --> 00:17:35,224
This is akin to slavery,
and you know the topic.
298
00:17:37,226 --> 00:17:38,593
Because I'm black?
299
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Yes.
300
00:17:45,633 --> 00:17:47,535
This can't come to you
as a shock.
301
00:17:47,568 --> 00:17:48,837
Dr. Haven,
302
00:17:48,871 --> 00:17:50,339
perhaps the board
could consider...
303
00:17:50,371 --> 00:17:52,107
The decision has been made.
304
00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:55,010
I've been in medicine
for 20 years.
305
00:17:55,043 --> 00:17:58,546
Dr. McConnell will be
our new chief resident,
306
00:17:58,579 --> 00:17:59,948
and that's final.
307
00:17:59,982 --> 00:18:03,352
You've chosen Dr. McConnell.
308
00:18:03,384 --> 00:18:05,720
The man can barely get
through an appendectomy.
309
00:18:05,753 --> 00:18:07,588
He's a fine doctor.
310
00:18:07,622 --> 00:18:10,292
This position
is way too precious
311
00:18:10,325 --> 00:18:13,095
to be wasted on a woman.
312
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I'll get it.
313
00:18:23,504 --> 00:18:25,573
Professor Robert byrn.
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00:18:25,606 --> 00:18:27,910
Father mchugh
said you were gonna call.
315
00:18:29,610 --> 00:18:30,645
There is not much time,
316
00:18:30,678 --> 00:18:33,382
and Jim said
you wanted to help out.
317
00:18:33,414 --> 00:18:35,217
Well, supposedly
318
00:18:35,250 --> 00:18:37,785
you're the best
constitutional mind he knows.
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The only one he knows.
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00:18:41,323 --> 00:18:44,259
"Any society that's willing to
give up a little Liberty
321
00:18:44,293 --> 00:18:46,494
to gain a little security
322
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will deserve neither
and lose both."
323
00:18:48,997 --> 00:18:50,999
Benjamin Franklin.
324
00:18:51,033 --> 00:18:54,602
Susan b. Anthony
said about abortion,
325
00:18:54,635 --> 00:18:57,605
"awful guilty is the woman
who commits the deed."
326
00:18:57,638 --> 00:19:00,008
No one will be passing a law
to kill the unborn.
327
00:19:00,042 --> 00:19:02,777
Our foundations
are built on natural law.
328
00:19:02,811 --> 00:19:03,979
Are you sure about that?
329
00:19:05,446 --> 00:19:07,849
People can't humanize
what they can't see.
330
00:19:07,883 --> 00:19:10,185
Physicians need to
balance the discussion.
331
00:19:12,154 --> 00:19:14,923
But in order to win,
332
00:19:14,957 --> 00:19:17,159
we need to take god
out of the argument.
333
00:19:17,192 --> 00:19:18,927
Nathanson's clinics
are performing
334
00:19:18,961 --> 00:19:20,963
a thousand abortions per week.
335
00:19:20,996 --> 00:19:22,297
Nathanson?
336
00:19:22,331 --> 00:19:24,665
Dr. Bernard Nathanson,
the obstetrician.
337
00:19:24,699 --> 00:19:26,634
The self-proclaimed
savior of women.
338
00:19:26,667 --> 00:19:28,769
Sounds more like
an abortionist than a doctor.
339
00:19:28,804 --> 00:19:30,839
The abortion king,
they call him.
340
00:19:30,872 --> 00:19:33,942
That's why I'm sacrificing
my time and taking up the fight.
341
00:19:33,976 --> 00:19:38,646
I'm a woman. You have choices.
342
00:19:38,679 --> 00:19:40,614
I understand.
343
00:19:40,648 --> 00:19:42,516
You need to take care
of your children.
344
00:19:42,550 --> 00:19:45,653
No, we don't have any children.
345
00:19:50,558 --> 00:19:52,526
We tried.
346
00:20:02,737 --> 00:20:03,905
So glad you're here.
347
00:20:03,939 --> 00:20:06,341
Look at this.
Have you seen that?
348
00:20:07,943 --> 00:20:11,179
"An unmarried
catholic law professor."
349
00:20:11,213 --> 00:20:12,247
Now, Larry's strategy
350
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,749
was to always
vilify the catholics.
351
00:20:14,782 --> 00:20:16,684
So, every time
we leaked a story,
352
00:20:16,717 --> 00:20:19,653
we made sure the writer
identified the bad guys
353
00:20:19,687 --> 00:20:21,890
specifically as catholics.
354
00:20:21,923 --> 00:20:23,591
I'm always described that way.
355
00:20:23,624 --> 00:20:25,994
You never see them identify
Betty friedan "a married Jew,"
356
00:20:26,028 --> 00:20:27,863
but us, always "a catholic."
357
00:20:29,398 --> 00:20:30,731
Could be worse.
358
00:20:32,566 --> 00:20:33,768
Come on.
359
00:20:33,802 --> 00:20:35,736
We're gonna go in here
and over to the left.
360
00:20:55,623 --> 00:20:56,757
Where are the graves?
361
00:20:59,428 --> 00:21:01,329
Where are the names
carved in stone?
362
00:21:04,099 --> 00:21:06,435
Where do we go to pray?
363
00:21:06,468 --> 00:21:07,635
I don't know, father.
364
00:21:07,668 --> 00:21:09,304
But I do know
that they will never stop
365
00:21:09,337 --> 00:21:11,807
the religious persecution.
366
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,242
Preaching on sundays
isn't saving babies.
367
00:21:17,012 --> 00:21:19,214
"The fate of unborn millions
will now depend,
368
00:21:19,247 --> 00:21:21,550
under god,
on the courage of this army."
369
00:21:21,582 --> 00:21:22,818
George Washington.
370
00:21:24,286 --> 00:21:26,421
We need to take god
out of the argument.
371
00:21:26,455 --> 00:21:28,490
Your father was a minister.
372
00:21:28,523 --> 00:21:29,657
Yes.
373
00:21:33,328 --> 00:21:35,263
Life begins at conception.
374
00:21:36,498 --> 00:21:38,867
As a physician, I know this.
375
00:21:40,368 --> 00:21:41,769
And so does the scraper.
376
00:21:45,340 --> 00:21:47,509
The scraper?
377
00:21:47,542 --> 00:21:49,277
That's what they call
Dr. Nathanson.
378
00:21:56,318 --> 00:21:57,352
I'm in.
379
00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:06,660
I'll have someone
from the right to life office
380
00:22:06,694 --> 00:22:08,796
get it up and running
until you can take over.
381
00:22:09,998 --> 00:22:11,166
God bless you.
382
00:22:16,505 --> 00:22:18,173
You know,
it's cheaper to abort a baby
383
00:22:18,206 --> 00:22:20,175
than it is
to keep it on welfare.
384
00:22:22,643 --> 00:22:24,346
Now that it's in the courts,
385
00:22:24,379 --> 00:22:26,882
the interests of the baby will
be taken into consideration.
386
00:22:28,984 --> 00:22:31,186
And now that it is legal
in New York,
387
00:22:31,219 --> 00:22:33,889
Larry really wants me
to open up a clinic.
388
00:22:33,922 --> 00:22:35,756
Does he want to pay
our mortgage?
389
00:22:47,536 --> 00:22:48,736
Larry was right,
390
00:22:48,769 --> 00:22:50,505
and from this point forward,
391
00:22:50,539 --> 00:22:53,842
we were able to carry out
over 70,000 abortions
392
00:22:53,875 --> 00:22:58,346
throughout my career,
making over $20 million.
393
00:23:01,183 --> 00:23:04,186
Maybe this is
worth your reputation.
394
00:23:07,788 --> 00:23:09,391
I guess they could
use your help.
395
00:23:13,428 --> 00:23:15,564
If you're gonna do this,
396
00:23:15,597 --> 00:23:17,532
I need you to do
one thing for me.
397
00:23:17,566 --> 00:23:18,566
Tell me.
398
00:23:19,568 --> 00:23:20,802
Win!
399
00:23:24,573 --> 00:23:25,941
Now
that my business was booming,
400
00:23:25,974 --> 00:23:27,385
I didn't have
enough hours in the day
401
00:23:27,409 --> 00:23:30,245
to take care of all the girls
who wanted abortions.
402
00:23:30,278 --> 00:23:32,746
So, we had to go to London
to learn a faster procedure.
403
00:23:32,780 --> 00:23:36,284
Uh, today, I'll be performing
32 procedures.
404
00:23:36,318 --> 00:23:38,553
Thirty-two in one day?
Impressive.
405
00:23:38,587 --> 00:23:40,555
Yeah,
it's much more civilized now.
406
00:23:40,589 --> 00:23:42,357
What is that machine there
used for?
407
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:44,059
Well, this is a suction machine.
408
00:23:44,092 --> 00:23:47,862
The procedure is called
suction curettage.
409
00:23:47,896 --> 00:23:51,399
With this, I can perform
an abortion in three minutes.
410
00:23:51,433 --> 00:23:53,101
That's impossible.
You can't do that.
411
00:23:53,134 --> 00:23:55,937
You can thank the Chinese
for this.
412
00:23:55,971 --> 00:23:57,372
This and firecrackers.
413
00:23:57,405 --> 00:24:00,475
Up until how many months
can you use this machine?
414
00:24:00,508 --> 00:24:01,576
Four and a half,
415
00:24:01,610 --> 00:24:03,144
no problem.
416
00:24:03,178 --> 00:24:06,114
Dilation and evacuation
up to six and a half,
417
00:24:06,147 --> 00:24:08,083
but some doctors
even more than that.
418
00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:12,597
Now, if you're looking
for a nice shirt
419
00:24:12,621 --> 00:24:13,655
while you're in London,
420
00:24:13,688 --> 00:24:15,724
I can recommend
macculloch & Wallis.
421
00:24:15,756 --> 00:24:19,894
They get the cut just right.
It is your body after all.
422
00:24:21,096 --> 00:24:22,273
One thing to be careful of
though is,
423
00:24:22,297 --> 00:24:25,500
their guy is a little clumsy
with the needle,
424
00:24:25,533 --> 00:24:28,303
but who cares
if it stings a bit, hmm?
425
00:24:28,336 --> 00:24:30,272
Ah, suction machine, please?
426
00:24:30,305 --> 00:24:31,506
You got it.
427
00:24:31,539 --> 00:24:33,774
The fetus is quartered.
428
00:24:33,808 --> 00:24:36,311
The torso disemboweled.
429
00:24:36,344 --> 00:24:40,448
The head is then crushed
and extracted in parts.
430
00:24:40,482 --> 00:24:44,085
Then the placenta
is scraped off the womb.
431
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,188
The last step of dilation
and evacuation is,
432
00:24:47,222 --> 00:24:49,124
you must reconstruct the fetus
433
00:24:49,157 --> 00:24:52,427
to make sure all the vital parts
have been removed.
434
00:24:52,460 --> 00:24:53,460
Thank you.
435
00:24:56,164 --> 00:24:58,933
Look, if you follow
the New York model,
436
00:24:58,967 --> 00:25:01,202
you're gonna be able to
maximize patients. Okay?
437
00:25:01,236 --> 00:25:02,270
If you need any help...
438
00:25:02,304 --> 00:25:04,272
We have regional centers.
439
00:25:04,306 --> 00:25:06,941
Planned parenthood has centers
all over the country.
440
00:25:06,975 --> 00:25:08,009
Yeah.
441
00:25:08,043 --> 00:25:10,011
Thank you, gentlemen.
442
00:25:17,352 --> 00:25:18,987
We found a girl in Texas.
443
00:25:19,020 --> 00:25:21,690
Our gal at planned parenthood
Dallas, Ginny whitehill,
444
00:25:21,723 --> 00:25:23,058
organized the whole thing.
445
00:25:23,091 --> 00:25:24,626
Did you get a lawyer
in Texas, too?
446
00:25:24,659 --> 00:25:26,995
A woman, and this is where
it gets good.
447
00:25:27,028 --> 00:25:28,496
Ginny found the perfect one.
448
00:25:28,530 --> 00:25:29,864
No.
449
00:25:29,898 --> 00:25:32,901
Young, inexperienced,
and in need of guidance.
450
00:25:32,934 --> 00:25:34,869
And it gets better.
451
00:25:34,903 --> 00:25:36,838
She works for us.
452
00:25:36,871 --> 00:25:37,915
What are you talking about?
453
00:25:37,939 --> 00:25:38,840
For planned parenthood.
454
00:25:38,873 --> 00:25:40,475
No.
455
00:25:40,508 --> 00:25:43,378
She even volunteers
for your group, now.
456
00:25:54,222 --> 00:25:57,392
Henry's a civil rights lawyer
but he does adoptions, too.
457
00:25:57,425 --> 00:25:59,427
That's how we found the girl.
458
00:25:59,461 --> 00:26:01,229
Norma mccorvey. She's perfect.
459
00:26:01,262 --> 00:26:02,430
She was a runaway,
460
00:26:02,464 --> 00:26:04,032
she became an alcoholic,
461
00:26:04,065 --> 00:26:06,101
a drug addict, a lesbian.
462
00:26:06,134 --> 00:26:08,703
She has a criminal record
and a ninth-grade education.
463
00:26:08,737 --> 00:26:11,406
She is just
what you're looking for.
464
00:26:11,439 --> 00:26:13,375
Ginny, this is great.
465
00:26:13,408 --> 00:26:16,778
We need to legalize this
across the country in one swoop.
466
00:26:16,812 --> 00:26:20,014
Fighting state by state
will take forever.
467
00:26:20,048 --> 00:26:21,282
And the lawyers?
468
00:26:21,316 --> 00:26:23,418
Linda coffee
and Sarah weddington.
469
00:26:23,451 --> 00:26:24,786
Henry McCluskey was the guy
470
00:26:24,820 --> 00:26:26,621
who not only found
the pregnant girl,
471
00:26:26,654 --> 00:26:28,223
but the lawyers, too.
472
00:26:28,256 --> 00:26:30,058
They are super excited.
473
00:26:30,091 --> 00:26:31,926
Plus.
474
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,661
They desperately needed a job.
475
00:26:35,597 --> 00:26:36,798
Planned parenthood
476
00:26:36,832 --> 00:26:39,067
needed Texas lawyers
they could control.
477
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:40,935
And they wanted women.
478
00:26:40,969 --> 00:26:44,038
Sarah and Linda couldn't
get hired anywhere else.
479
00:26:44,072 --> 00:26:46,074
They were the perfect pawns.
480
00:26:46,107 --> 00:26:48,276
You're gonna make
a constitutional claim.
481
00:26:48,309 --> 00:26:49,812
How are we gonna do that?
482
00:26:49,845 --> 00:26:52,447
Between planned parenthood,
naral, and now,
483
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,748
you got a lot of help.
484
00:26:53,782 --> 00:26:55,550
And Norma's background?
485
00:26:55,583 --> 00:26:57,719
Are we worried
that's gonna affect the case?
486
00:26:57,752 --> 00:27:00,155
We'll give her a pseudonym.
Call her Jane roe.
487
00:27:00,188 --> 00:27:02,257
Calling Norma Jane roe,
488
00:27:02,290 --> 00:27:04,592
made sure our opponents
would never be able to
489
00:27:04,626 --> 00:27:08,229
find out who she was;
Never be able to question her,
490
00:27:08,263 --> 00:27:11,433
and never, ever be able to
find out the truth.
491
00:27:11,466 --> 00:27:13,067
That's genius.
492
00:27:13,101 --> 00:27:14,846
That way, no one will
ever know about her past.
493
00:27:14,870 --> 00:27:16,404
I'll oversee the case.
494
00:27:16,438 --> 00:27:18,908
I'll bring in Harriet pilpel
from planned parenthood.
495
00:27:18,940 --> 00:27:21,643
She's the country's
top constitutional expert.
496
00:27:21,676 --> 00:27:23,178
This is going to
the supreme court?
497
00:27:23,211 --> 00:27:24,546
We'll make sure of it.
498
00:27:25,947 --> 00:27:29,184
But, I-I've never even
tried a case.
499
00:27:29,217 --> 00:27:31,887
Don't worry, we have.
500
00:27:34,689 --> 00:27:36,458
Larry liked to go to St. Croix.
501
00:27:36,491 --> 00:27:37,927
He called them
working vacations.
502
00:27:37,959 --> 00:27:39,127
Okay, Bernie.
503
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:39,994
He said that's where
504
00:27:40,028 --> 00:27:41,463
he got his best ideas.
505
00:27:41,496 --> 00:27:42,841
- This time, I went with him.
- Look, they do need us.
506
00:27:42,865 --> 00:27:44,165
We were going to celebrate
507
00:27:44,199 --> 00:27:45,643
- winning New York.
- Here's the strategy, okay.
508
00:27:45,667 --> 00:27:48,136
First, we have to get
the media on our side.
509
00:27:48,169 --> 00:27:49,637
That's a good idea, okay.
510
00:27:49,671 --> 00:27:51,841
Second, they need to know
511
00:27:51,874 --> 00:27:53,675
there's no life at conception.
512
00:27:53,708 --> 00:27:56,644
Yeah, but I'm not really sure
that's accurate.
513
00:27:57,847 --> 00:27:58,713
Well, you're a doctor.
514
00:27:58,746 --> 00:27:59,891
We're gonna need testimonials.
515
00:27:59,915 --> 00:28:02,383
What about
what the other experts say?
516
00:28:02,417 --> 00:28:04,719
We'll make sure no one's gonna
hear what they have to say.
517
00:28:04,752 --> 00:28:07,055
I couldn't
believe what he just said.
518
00:28:07,088 --> 00:28:09,657
Larry wanted me
to Bury the truth.
519
00:28:09,691 --> 00:28:13,661
I was really conflicted but.
I went along with it anyway.
520
00:28:13,695 --> 00:28:15,129
Right? Listen.
521
00:28:15,163 --> 00:28:18,700
Most important, every revolution
needs a villain, okay?
522
00:28:18,733 --> 00:28:20,903
Whether it's a dictator
or a king.
523
00:28:20,936 --> 00:28:23,705
People need to see a face,
something to rebel against.
524
00:28:23,738 --> 00:28:26,474
It's easier for them
to perceive.
525
00:28:26,508 --> 00:28:30,245
We need to narrow the focus,
okay,
526
00:28:30,278 --> 00:28:32,848
identify it with a person
527
00:28:32,882 --> 00:28:35,750
or a small group of shadowy,
powerful people.
528
00:28:37,552 --> 00:28:38,553
Don't you see?
529
00:28:40,255 --> 00:28:42,557
In our country there's been
one group associated with
530
00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:43,826
reactionary politics,
531
00:28:43,859 --> 00:28:45,760
behind-the-scenes manipulations,
532
00:28:45,793 --> 00:28:47,428
and backward ideas.
533
00:28:47,462 --> 00:28:49,764
Wait, not the catholics again?
534
00:28:49,797 --> 00:28:52,066
Oh, well.
What did I really care?
535
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:54,335
I mean, although my parents
were Jewish,
536
00:28:54,369 --> 00:28:56,237
I was more of an atheist.
537
00:28:56,271 --> 00:28:58,706
Of course, the catholics. Yes!
538
00:29:02,277 --> 00:29:04,412
Norma.
539
00:29:04,445 --> 00:29:06,214
Good to see you again.
540
00:29:06,247 --> 00:29:07,247
Come here.
541
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:11,920
This is Sarah.
542
00:29:19,460 --> 00:29:22,363
So, you're seeking an abortion?
543
00:29:22,397 --> 00:29:25,066
Yeah, you know
where I can get one?
544
00:29:26,936 --> 00:29:30,405
I'm so sorry, I do not.
545
00:29:38,814 --> 00:29:40,214
How about an illegal one?
546
00:29:40,248 --> 00:29:41,716
No!
547
00:29:41,749 --> 00:29:42,789
Okay, well, Sarah did know
548
00:29:42,818 --> 00:29:44,118
where to get an illegal one.
549
00:29:44,152 --> 00:29:46,055
She had one in Mexico.
550
00:29:46,087 --> 00:29:48,289
But we needed them to say
whatever it took
551
00:29:48,323 --> 00:29:50,291
to get her to come on board.
552
00:29:50,325 --> 00:29:54,562
It was for the greater good.
This was lie number one.
553
00:29:54,596 --> 00:29:56,464
Why the heck not?
554
00:29:56,497 --> 00:29:58,800
Because it's dangerous.
555
00:29:58,834 --> 00:30:00,435
What am I even doing here then?
556
00:30:00,468 --> 00:30:02,570
Mr. McCluskey said
I could trust y'all.
557
00:30:02,604 --> 00:30:04,105
He's great.
558
00:30:04,138 --> 00:30:06,842
We'll still consult
with McCluskey, okay?
559
00:30:06,875 --> 00:30:09,410
I can't be having no baby, okay?
560
00:30:09,444 --> 00:30:12,915
I got no job, no husband,
no home.
561
00:30:12,948 --> 00:30:14,917
You don't wanna to
put your child up for adoption?
562
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:17,552
No, I can't
go through that again.
563
00:30:20,521 --> 00:30:22,457
Thank you.
564
00:30:22,490 --> 00:30:25,460
How did you become pregnant
in the first place?
565
00:30:25,493 --> 00:30:26,494
Can I?
566
00:30:30,966 --> 00:30:34,469
Norma, if we are gonna
represent you,
567
00:30:34,502 --> 00:30:37,672
we need to know everything.
568
00:30:37,705 --> 00:30:40,042
Did anything bad happen?
569
00:30:40,075 --> 00:30:43,478
I was, uhm, raped.
570
00:30:43,511 --> 00:30:45,513
Norma may have been suicidal,
571
00:30:45,546 --> 00:30:48,884
but she admitted years later,
she lied about being raped.
572
00:30:50,019 --> 00:30:51,019
Raped?
573
00:30:52,654 --> 00:30:54,656
I'm so sorry.
574
00:30:54,689 --> 00:30:56,034
No woman should ever
have to give birth
575
00:30:56,058 --> 00:30:57,860
to her attacker's child.
576
00:30:57,893 --> 00:31:00,695
Hmm, is the case
gonna be over in enough time?
577
00:31:00,728 --> 00:31:02,031
That's why I'm doing this.
578
00:31:02,064 --> 00:31:04,799
Yes, of course.
579
00:31:04,833 --> 00:31:05,868
Lie number two.
580
00:31:08,503 --> 00:31:10,839
We will do our best to win.
581
00:31:10,873 --> 00:31:14,242
So, what happens
during an abortion?
582
00:31:14,275 --> 00:31:16,310
Does the baby go back?
583
00:31:16,344 --> 00:31:19,848
Like when John Wayne
aborts a mission?
584
00:31:19,882 --> 00:31:22,183
Well, there is no baby.
585
00:31:22,216 --> 00:31:23,718
And ladies and gentlemen,
586
00:31:23,751 --> 00:31:26,088
lie number three.
587
00:31:26,121 --> 00:31:28,556
It's like removing
a piece of tissue.
588
00:31:28,589 --> 00:31:30,025
The baby comes later, Norma.
589
00:31:30,059 --> 00:31:31,093
Much later.
590
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,029
Like passing a period.
591
00:31:35,530 --> 00:31:38,934
So, y'all got
a lot of experience with this.
592
00:31:38,967 --> 00:31:40,702
We're going to file in Dallas.
593
00:31:40,735 --> 00:31:42,037
But I live in Houston.
594
00:31:42,071 --> 00:31:44,840
I know, but I clerked for
judge Hughes in Dallas
595
00:31:44,873 --> 00:31:47,176
and I know her position
on the topic.
596
00:31:47,208 --> 00:31:50,846
We just need you to read
these papers and sign.
597
00:31:50,879 --> 00:31:53,347
And then, we'll just-we'll
get everything going.
598
00:31:53,381 --> 00:31:54,883
It's all right. I trust y'all.
599
00:32:08,997 --> 00:32:11,232
Get out! Get out!
600
00:32:13,768 --> 00:32:15,804
Wait.
601
00:32:15,838 --> 00:32:17,106
Wait.
602
00:32:20,909 --> 00:32:23,478
They lied to me.
603
00:32:23,511 --> 00:32:25,613
They told me
we would have won by now.
604
00:32:27,749 --> 00:32:31,285
Call them!
Tell them to get McCluskey!
605
00:32:32,353 --> 00:32:33,488
Obviously,
606
00:32:33,521 --> 00:32:34,961
the case didn't
get to court in time.
607
00:32:39,761 --> 00:32:42,396
Ha-ha! Mr. Floyd,
welcome to Dallas.
608
00:32:42,430 --> 00:32:43,640
- How's the governor?
- He's still reeling
609
00:32:43,664 --> 00:32:45,466
over your Lee Harvey oswald
debacle.
610
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,237
Well, he should have appointed
me instead of Sarah Hughes.
611
00:32:48,269 --> 00:32:49,303
You'll want to hear this.
612
00:32:49,337 --> 00:32:51,073
Two young lawyers just filed...
613
00:32:51,106 --> 00:32:54,442
Whoop Dee doo, goody for them.
614
00:32:54,475 --> 00:32:56,812
In judge Hughes' court,
and it's about...
615
00:32:56,845 --> 00:33:01,415
Oh, let me guess, abortion!
616
00:33:02,550 --> 00:33:05,520
You know,
that Sarah Hughes, she...
617
00:33:05,553 --> 00:33:06,989
Anything to get at me.
618
00:33:08,289 --> 00:33:09,690
So.
619
00:33:09,724 --> 00:33:13,628
So, these gals,
fresh out of ut law,
620
00:33:13,661 --> 00:33:16,265
are bringin'
an abortion case to Texas.
621
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:21,769
Thank you.
I needed a good laugh.
622
00:33:21,804 --> 00:33:23,304
You should be worried, Hank!
623
00:33:23,337 --> 00:33:26,374
About what? Prissy feminists
looking to stir up the pot?
624
00:33:26,407 --> 00:33:27,952
Tolle, come in here.
You need to hear this.
625
00:33:27,976 --> 00:33:29,845
They're causing a ruckus
all over the country.
626
00:33:29,878 --> 00:33:31,814
Any decent lawyer
627
00:33:31,847 --> 00:33:34,283
can try this case
with his eyes closed.
628
00:33:34,315 --> 00:33:37,186
You-you-you argue the case.
629
00:33:37,219 --> 00:33:39,955
Show these girls some good
old-fashioned Texas morals.
630
00:33:39,988 --> 00:33:41,389
It's not about morals, Hank!
631
00:33:41,422 --> 00:33:42,825
Well, that's just ignorant.
632
00:33:42,858 --> 00:33:45,526
Why don't we legalize murder
while we're at it?
633
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,129
Who's this Jane roe anyway?
634
00:33:49,530 --> 00:33:53,836
Well, she's healthy,
so the baby can't kill her.
635
00:33:53,869 --> 00:33:56,972
So, she can't have
an abortion in Texas.
636
00:33:57,005 --> 00:33:59,707
Why doesn't she move
to New York City?
637
00:33:59,740 --> 00:34:02,244
They're gonna bring up
some women's rights violations.
638
00:34:02,277 --> 00:34:05,047
A woman's right
to kill her own baby?
639
00:34:08,183 --> 00:34:09,218
You're right.
640
00:34:10,785 --> 00:34:12,096
There's no way
anyone with a conscience
641
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,330
could legalize killin' a child.
642
00:34:13,354 --> 00:34:15,590
And that's why
I prosecuted Jack Ruby
643
00:34:15,623 --> 00:34:17,658
for killing Lee Harvey oswald.
644
00:34:17,692 --> 00:34:20,494
No judge or jury
in their right mind
645
00:34:20,528 --> 00:34:25,666
would ever let abortion happen
in Texas, ever.
646
00:34:25,700 --> 00:34:27,236
Ever.
647
00:34:27,269 --> 00:34:28,669
I'm Jay Floyd,
648
00:34:28,703 --> 00:34:30,414
assistant Attorney General
of the state of Texas.
649
00:34:30,438 --> 00:34:31,515
The parties in this lawsuit
650
00:34:31,539 --> 00:34:32,859
have no standing
before the court.
651
00:34:33,441 --> 00:34:34,910
Jane roe no longer
seeks an abortion.
652
00:34:34,943 --> 00:34:36,677
She has had the baby
or is having it.
653
00:34:36,711 --> 00:34:37,678
Are we gonna let the delay
654
00:34:37,712 --> 00:34:39,780
in the hearing abort the case?
655
00:34:39,815 --> 00:34:41,917
She may want to
engage in activity
656
00:34:41,950 --> 00:34:43,185
where she'll become pregnant,
657
00:34:43,218 --> 00:34:44,752
and then she may want
an abortion.
658
00:34:44,785 --> 00:34:46,721
The law's whether or not
the party has standing
659
00:34:46,754 --> 00:34:48,957
at the time the issues
are decided in the case.
660
00:34:48,991 --> 00:34:50,959
This statute takes effect
661
00:34:50,993 --> 00:34:53,761
regardless of when
the embryo takes effect.
662
00:34:53,794 --> 00:34:55,931
I mean, at first week?
663
00:34:55,964 --> 00:34:57,141
There have been many arguments
664
00:34:57,165 --> 00:34:58,967
as to when an embryo
becomes a human being.
665
00:34:59,001 --> 00:35:00,601
There have been
many religious groups
666
00:35:00,635 --> 00:35:02,204
that have joined
in that controversy,
667
00:35:02,237 --> 00:35:04,605
and I'm not setting forth
the catholic faith.
668
00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:06,741
How is that
gettin' you anywhere?
669
00:35:06,774 --> 00:35:08,210
The point is,
670
00:35:08,243 --> 00:35:10,054
the state's interest
is whether or not murder occurs,
671
00:35:10,078 --> 00:35:12,413
and if the embryo is considered
a human being.
672
00:35:12,446 --> 00:35:15,918
There have been
many opinions on privacy.
673
00:35:15,951 --> 00:35:20,255
So, you're saying that if Texas
were to approve abortion,
674
00:35:20,289 --> 00:35:24,059
that it would be considered a
direct killin' of our citizens?
675
00:35:24,092 --> 00:35:27,829
I-I think this is a bad word
in this situation,
676
00:35:27,863 --> 00:35:29,340
although everybody
seems to want to use it.
677
00:35:29,364 --> 00:35:31,233
I haven't come up
with a phrase myself,
678
00:35:31,266 --> 00:35:33,268
but I don't think
privacy is gonna do it.
679
00:35:33,302 --> 00:35:35,670
The state's position is
the right of that child to life
680
00:35:35,703 --> 00:35:38,106
is superior to the woman's
right to privacy.
681
00:35:39,841 --> 00:35:40,985
Then an argument could be made
682
00:35:41,009 --> 00:35:43,577
that an abortion
isn't necessary,
683
00:35:43,611 --> 00:35:45,948
a medical argument because of
the health of the mother.
684
00:35:45,981 --> 00:35:47,916
Any possible change
in the relevant law
685
00:35:47,950 --> 00:35:50,953
is a matter for the state
legislators and not the courts.
686
00:36:01,964 --> 00:36:05,334
First amendment rights
or ninth amendment rights,
687
00:36:05,367 --> 00:36:06,978
I feel that they are
so important that they deserve
688
00:36:07,002 --> 00:36:08,870
special protection.
689
00:36:08,904 --> 00:36:11,206
They involve fundamental
human freedoms.
690
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,042
The state has not tried to
prosecute unfairly, has it?
691
00:36:14,076 --> 00:36:16,011
The state is prosecuting
against physicians.
692
00:36:16,044 --> 00:36:18,679
Do you think the entire
statute should be stricken?
693
00:36:18,713 --> 00:36:19,915
Yes.
694
00:36:21,582 --> 00:36:23,385
- Is the court worried about...?
- Ah...
695
00:36:23,418 --> 00:36:25,954
We worry about a lot of things.
Don't let that worry you.
696
00:36:29,057 --> 00:36:30,624
I think the statute is so bad
697
00:36:30,658 --> 00:36:32,995
that the court just has to
strike it all down.
698
00:36:33,028 --> 00:36:37,032
So, you think 63 years
of unconstitutionality
699
00:36:37,065 --> 00:36:40,469
should've worn everyone's
constitutional Patience?
700
00:36:40,501 --> 00:36:41,635
Is that what you're saying?
701
00:36:41,669 --> 00:36:43,014
I think the state
has had plenty of time
702
00:36:43,038 --> 00:36:44,538
to construe this statute.
703
00:36:58,887 --> 00:37:01,256
This was
the judge Linda clerked for,
704
00:37:01,289 --> 00:37:02,723
and she obviously
made her decision
705
00:37:02,757 --> 00:37:04,893
before she even heard the case.
706
00:37:04,926 --> 00:37:06,761
I think the wink gave it away.
707
00:37:08,629 --> 00:37:11,066
I would like to draw to
the court's attention that life
708
00:37:11,099 --> 00:37:13,335
is an ongoing process.
709
00:37:13,368 --> 00:37:15,370
It is almost impossible
to define at which point
710
00:37:15,404 --> 00:37:17,506
life begins or
711
00:37:17,538 --> 00:37:19,673
perhaps even when life ends.
712
00:37:19,707 --> 00:37:23,744
Assuming there is a ninth
amendment right to privacy,
713
00:37:23,778 --> 00:37:25,356
does the state have
any compelling reason
714
00:37:25,380 --> 00:37:28,050
to regulate
or modify that right?
715
00:37:28,083 --> 00:37:30,419
I cannot see
any justification for regulation
716
00:37:30,452 --> 00:37:32,521
when the abortion's
being done by a doctor.
717
00:37:32,553 --> 00:37:36,024
The state of the pregnancy
or anything?
718
00:37:36,058 --> 00:37:39,560
The stage of the pregnancy
is pause for concern, um.
719
00:37:40,996 --> 00:37:43,532
You could recognize life
when the fetus is able to live
720
00:37:43,564 --> 00:37:45,766
outside the body of the mother.
721
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,037
It might be dependent on
whether she has money or not?
722
00:37:49,071 --> 00:37:53,542
The young,
those still in school,
723
00:37:53,574 --> 00:37:58,779
those unable to shoulder
the responsibility of a child,
724
00:37:58,814 --> 00:38:01,383
these girls should not be
put through the pregnancy
725
00:38:01,416 --> 00:38:03,784
and should be entitled
to an abortion.
726
00:38:20,135 --> 00:38:21,635
Gentlemen, inside, now!
727
00:38:25,107 --> 00:38:28,076
I told you any decent lawyer
could win this case!
728
00:38:28,110 --> 00:38:31,279
You, Mr. Floyd, are apparently
not a decent lawyer.
729
00:38:31,313 --> 00:38:33,081
The judge's decision
was political;
730
00:38:33,115 --> 00:38:34,292
nobody could've done anything.
731
00:38:34,316 --> 00:38:35,649
You weren't prepared!
732
00:38:35,683 --> 00:38:38,752
You didn't bring in
any medical experts to testify
733
00:38:38,786 --> 00:38:40,989
that life begins at conception!
734
00:38:41,022 --> 00:38:43,691
They said the constitution
didn't apply to the unborn.
735
00:38:43,724 --> 00:38:45,160
We'll fight the decision, Hank!
736
00:38:45,193 --> 00:38:48,597
Fight? You didn't even
bring in all of the case law.
737
00:38:48,629 --> 00:38:52,100
Dozens that do protect
the rights of the unborn!
738
00:38:52,134 --> 00:38:53,667
You've embarrassed this office.
739
00:38:53,701 --> 00:38:55,679
Sir, if you would just listen
to what I have to say, I could...
740
00:38:55,703 --> 00:38:59,307
Planned parenthood
in their own words agree,
741
00:38:59,341 --> 00:39:03,879
"abortion kills the life
of the baby after it's begun"!
742
00:39:03,912 --> 00:39:06,148
Right here in their own damn
pamphlet!
743
00:39:10,651 --> 00:39:13,054
You research this Jane roe
744
00:39:13,088 --> 00:39:15,457
to see if she's
telling the truth.
745
00:39:15,490 --> 00:39:18,226
Mr. Tolle, I will deal with you.
746
00:39:18,260 --> 00:39:20,562
Mr. Floyd,
you deal with the governor.
747
00:39:24,765 --> 00:39:27,369
I will appeal this all the way
to the supreme court,
748
00:39:27,402 --> 00:39:29,437
so help me god!
749
00:39:30,906 --> 00:39:32,673
Until the appeals process
is over,
750
00:39:32,706 --> 00:39:35,743
abortion is still illegal
in Texas.
751
00:39:35,776 --> 00:39:38,580
Potter keeps pushing roe.
752
00:39:38,613 --> 00:39:39,747
I think we should wait.
753
00:39:41,249 --> 00:39:42,317
The senate has rejected
754
00:39:42,350 --> 00:39:45,420
each of Nixon's
appointments so far.
755
00:39:45,453 --> 00:39:47,355
Who knows how long
this could take.
756
00:39:47,389 --> 00:39:50,258
Obviously, they're just trying
as many cases as they can
757
00:39:50,292 --> 00:39:51,725
while they're still in control.
758
00:39:53,361 --> 00:39:55,230
Your letter to Nixon
did help get your friend.
759
00:39:55,263 --> 00:39:56,565
Blackmun on the bench.
760
00:39:56,598 --> 00:39:58,366
Well, I had to do something.
761
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,903
Nothing like that
has happened in 40 years.
762
00:40:01,937 --> 00:40:03,777
At this rate, the liberals
will never let Nixon
763
00:40:03,805 --> 00:40:06,241
appoint any new justices.
764
00:40:06,274 --> 00:40:09,377
It could be
rehnquist and Powell.
765
00:40:09,411 --> 00:40:11,913
Who the hell knows
where they stand.
766
00:40:11,947 --> 00:40:13,181
What are you thinking, Byron?
767
00:40:13,215 --> 00:40:15,550
Seven judges,
only six are required.
768
00:40:15,584 --> 00:40:17,118
The supreme court
769
00:40:17,152 --> 00:40:18,420
has nine justices.
770
00:40:18,453 --> 00:40:20,121
Two had just retired,
771
00:40:20,155 --> 00:40:21,755
and Nixon was fighting
with the senate
772
00:40:21,789 --> 00:40:23,925
over his replacements.
773
00:40:23,959 --> 00:40:30,031
This is far too. Too sensitive
a matter for seven.
774
00:40:30,065 --> 00:40:31,732
Well, we just decided
the vuitch case.
775
00:40:31,765 --> 00:40:34,236
I'll bring that up
and we'll-we'll move on.
776
00:40:35,804 --> 00:40:38,273
Roe v. Wade,
in the grand scheme of things,
777
00:40:38,306 --> 00:40:40,909
is not that important.
778
00:40:40,942 --> 00:40:42,043
The vuitch case!
779
00:40:42,077 --> 00:40:44,613
I don't-i don't see
the correlation.
780
00:40:44,646 --> 00:40:46,715
These people,
they want-they want abortion
781
00:40:46,747 --> 00:40:48,550
for reasons other than
life or health.
782
00:40:48,583 --> 00:40:49,951
They want abortion on demand.
783
00:40:51,820 --> 00:40:53,421
Well, we'll see.
784
00:41:02,697 --> 00:41:04,633
What's all the commotion,
my jurists?
785
00:41:06,434 --> 00:41:09,471
Professor, everyone's talking
about what's happening in Texas.
786
00:41:09,504 --> 00:41:11,006
Is that what's on your minds?
787
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:13,308
Only fanatics
are against abortion.
788
00:41:13,341 --> 00:41:14,609
Oh, really?
789
00:41:16,645 --> 00:41:17,679
Mother Teresa?
790
00:41:17,712 --> 00:41:19,514
Martin Luther King?
The Dalai Lama?
791
00:41:21,383 --> 00:41:22,984
"It would seem to me
clear as daylight
792
00:41:23,018 --> 00:41:24,862
- "that abortion would be a crime."
- Mahatma Gandhi.
793
00:41:24,886 --> 00:41:26,021
Fanatics?
794
00:41:26,054 --> 00:41:27,689
None of them
were getting pregnant.
795
00:41:27,722 --> 00:41:30,492
Regardless, we should have the
right to control our own bodies.
796
00:41:30,525 --> 00:41:32,494
Yes, one should have the right
797
00:41:32,527 --> 00:41:34,496
to do whatever she wants
with her own actual body.
798
00:41:34,529 --> 00:41:36,264
But let me ask you something.
799
00:41:36,298 --> 00:41:38,933
What happens when that body
800
00:41:38,967 --> 00:41:41,469
starts to interfere
with another body?
801
00:41:41,503 --> 00:41:42,513
You mean,
the rights of the fetus?
802
00:41:42,537 --> 00:41:45,206
It is part of our own bodies.
803
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:46,875
All of your body parts
804
00:41:46,908 --> 00:41:50,545
share the same DNA,
except the fetus.
805
00:41:50,578 --> 00:41:52,881
So, the child, by definition,
806
00:41:52,914 --> 00:41:56,184
is not part of
anyone's body but their own.
807
00:41:56,217 --> 00:41:57,652
But how can you say it's a life?
808
00:41:57,686 --> 00:41:58,987
It can't live
without the mother.
809
00:41:59,020 --> 00:42:01,456
Well, Dan.
810
00:42:01,489 --> 00:42:02,991
Were you able to feed yourself
811
00:42:03,024 --> 00:42:04,869
without your mother,
the day after you were born?
812
00:42:04,893 --> 00:42:06,294
- Well.
- Not even a one-year-old
813
00:42:06,328 --> 00:42:08,630
or a two-year-old
can take care of themselves.
814
00:42:08,663 --> 00:42:11,199
Dan can't even
take care of himself now.
815
00:42:13,568 --> 00:42:14,569
You think this is funny?
816
00:42:16,371 --> 00:42:19,708
You all protest
the killing in Vietnam.
817
00:42:19,741 --> 00:42:22,510
So, am I confused,
or is this just hypocrisy?
818
00:42:22,544 --> 00:42:23,712
The elderly,
819
00:42:23,745 --> 00:42:26,247
the handicapped,
the incapacitated,
820
00:42:26,281 --> 00:42:27,649
they can't take care
of themselves.
821
00:42:27,682 --> 00:42:29,017
Should we eliminate them too?
822
00:42:29,050 --> 00:42:30,585
What about birth defects?
823
00:42:30,618 --> 00:42:34,022
To kill an unborn child
because of defects
824
00:42:34,055 --> 00:42:37,192
is what the Nazis
used to do to the Jews.
825
00:42:37,225 --> 00:42:38,426
Let me give you a riddle.
826
00:42:41,563 --> 00:42:43,331
The father,
827
00:42:43,365 --> 00:42:45,166
syphilitic.
828
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,035
The mother had tuberculosis.
829
00:42:47,068 --> 00:42:50,205
Of their four children,
one was blind, the second died,
830
00:42:50,238 --> 00:42:51,606
the third was deaf and dumb,
831
00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:53,141
and the fourth
had tuberculosis, too.
832
00:42:55,777 --> 00:42:57,245
If the mother
got pregnant again,
833
00:42:59,948 --> 00:43:01,449
what would you do with the baby?
834
00:43:01,483 --> 00:43:02,784
I wouldn't want my child
835
00:43:02,818 --> 00:43:05,053
to grow up disabled and suffer.
836
00:43:05,086 --> 00:43:06,621
You would have killed Beethoven.
837
00:43:08,056 --> 00:43:10,925
Don't you think
that someone's hopelessness
838
00:43:10,959 --> 00:43:14,864
should motivate us
to protect them,
839
00:43:14,896 --> 00:43:16,431
not destroy them?
840
00:43:22,805 --> 00:43:23,938
Is everything okay?
841
00:43:26,241 --> 00:43:31,479
I.i can't take care
of a baby right now.
842
00:43:31,513 --> 00:43:32,513
I see.
843
00:43:33,849 --> 00:43:36,251
And I can't tell
my family about this.
844
00:43:40,922 --> 00:43:42,323
They can't know.
845
00:43:44,659 --> 00:43:46,394
You do know I love you, right?
846
00:43:46,428 --> 00:43:48,596
I can't take care
of a baby right now.
847
00:44:03,178 --> 00:44:04,612
My life is over.
848
00:44:04,646 --> 00:44:06,581
I'm so sorry, Mary.
849
00:44:06,614 --> 00:44:08,950
The hospital
limits me with quotas.
850
00:44:08,983 --> 00:44:11,286
So, each of you
are only permitted to do
851
00:44:11,319 --> 00:44:12,822
20 abortions a week.
852
00:44:12,855 --> 00:44:14,298
That's like saying I've done
too many gall bladders
853
00:44:14,322 --> 00:44:15,990
but I can still do
hernia repairs.
854
00:44:16,024 --> 00:44:18,326
This is a Democratic approach.
855
00:44:18,359 --> 00:44:21,129
To limit a woman's access
to health care?
856
00:44:21,162 --> 00:44:23,631
Staff members should have
equal access to beds and ors.
857
00:44:23,665 --> 00:44:25,333
I've already fulfilled my quota.
858
00:44:25,366 --> 00:44:28,436
Dr. Berg won't do abortions,
let me use his.
859
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:31,339
We can't transfer
another doctor's quotas to you.
860
00:44:31,372 --> 00:44:36,778
Hah, I get this.
I get what's going on here.
861
00:44:36,812 --> 00:44:39,547
This is an attack on us! Why?
862
00:44:39,581 --> 00:44:42,984
Because we were the ones
outspoken on reform?
863
00:44:43,017 --> 00:44:45,220
Yeah, I've heard the whispers
in the locker room
864
00:44:45,253 --> 00:44:47,021
and I've gotten the looks
in the hallway,
865
00:44:47,055 --> 00:44:49,190
the half portions
in the cafeteria,
866
00:44:49,224 --> 00:44:51,793
the sneers and the nicknames.
867
00:44:51,827 --> 00:44:55,129
This isn't high school.
You can't hurt me.
868
00:44:55,163 --> 00:44:56,631
Because I'm proud of what I do,
869
00:44:56,664 --> 00:44:59,133
and I'm proud to help
the women of this country.
870
00:44:59,167 --> 00:45:01,971
So, if you wanna humiliate me
871
00:45:02,003 --> 00:45:06,207
and call me the scraper
behind my back,
872
00:45:06,241 --> 00:45:09,010
I'll wear it
as a badge of honor.
873
00:45:09,043 --> 00:45:14,082
Or if you wanna ridicule me
and call me the abortion king,
874
00:45:14,115 --> 00:45:17,185
I'll wear that title with pride.
875
00:45:17,218 --> 00:45:19,420
Because when a woman
is at her wits' end,
876
00:45:19,454 --> 00:45:21,189
and she has no one else
to turn to,
877
00:45:21,222 --> 00:45:23,758
when she's too frightened
to tell her family
878
00:45:23,791 --> 00:45:26,427
or fears going to the butcher,
879
00:45:26,461 --> 00:45:28,096
when she has to
spend her last dime
880
00:45:28,129 --> 00:45:29,597
to catch the greyhound
881
00:45:29,631 --> 00:45:31,934
or hitchhike her way
to New York,
882
00:45:31,967 --> 00:45:35,770
when she breaks down in tears
crying out for her savior
883
00:45:35,804 --> 00:45:39,707
and when your god
can't help her, Kenneth.
884
00:45:41,276 --> 00:45:43,578
Who do you think
she's crying for?
885
00:45:50,618 --> 00:45:52,220
I decided to fight back,
886
00:45:52,253 --> 00:45:54,890
so I had Larry call
and leak the story to the press
887
00:45:54,924 --> 00:45:57,125
and feed some of this
good raw meat
888
00:45:57,158 --> 00:45:59,160
to the drooling beasts
in the media.
889
00:46:00,628 --> 00:46:02,397
Yeah. Hi, Kate?
890
00:46:02,430 --> 00:46:04,399
Yes, Larry lader.
891
00:46:04,432 --> 00:46:06,301
How are you?
892
00:46:06,334 --> 00:46:08,636
I have a story for you.
893
00:46:10,806 --> 00:46:12,908
Hi. I was hoping to
speak to someone
894
00:46:12,942 --> 00:46:14,676
about the quotas
you put on abortions.
895
00:46:19,581 --> 00:46:22,383
It's amazing how the quotas
magically dried up.
896
00:46:22,417 --> 00:46:25,553
Time of death?
897
00:46:25,587 --> 00:46:27,655
And the medicine section
of time magazine
898
00:46:27,689 --> 00:46:29,490
had a three-column spread.
899
00:46:30,993 --> 00:46:34,162
Thanks for getting those quotas
lifted, your majesty.
900
00:46:34,195 --> 00:46:35,663
Aw. Thank you, sire.
901
00:46:35,697 --> 00:46:38,499
Your favorite, corn flakes.
902
00:46:40,869 --> 00:46:44,772
You know
that John Harvey kellogg
903
00:46:44,807 --> 00:46:48,743
created corn flakes
as an anti-aphrodisiac.
904
00:46:48,776 --> 00:46:52,614
He believed bland foods
decreased sex drive.
905
00:46:52,647 --> 00:46:53,916
Oh, well.
906
00:46:53,949 --> 00:46:56,784
I hope that's not true,
for Joan's sake.
907
00:46:56,819 --> 00:46:58,786
Did I miss something?
908
00:46:58,821 --> 00:47:01,023
Yeah, your husband's
trivial knowledge.
909
00:47:01,056 --> 00:47:03,625
He also founded
the race betterment foundation
910
00:47:03,658 --> 00:47:06,327
which paved the way
for Margaret sanger.
911
00:47:06,361 --> 00:47:08,162
Don't eat that.
912
00:47:08,196 --> 00:47:09,196
Huh?
913
00:47:13,334 --> 00:47:15,037
Are you gonna stop me?
914
00:47:15,070 --> 00:47:16,237
Eat up.
915
00:47:26,514 --> 00:47:29,084
Could you quiet them down, Joan?
916
00:47:31,820 --> 00:47:33,956
Let me show you somethin'.
917
00:47:35,256 --> 00:47:37,191
We need to come up
with a jingle.
918
00:47:37,225 --> 00:47:39,028
Something catchy.
919
00:47:39,061 --> 00:47:41,496
Bernie, what was that song
you told me about?
920
00:47:41,529 --> 00:47:44,365
The one that doctors used to
sing during your residency.
921
00:47:44,399 --> 00:47:46,001
Oh, I can't do that.
922
00:47:46,035 --> 00:47:47,535
- I can't...
- You have a song?
923
00:47:48,904 --> 00:47:50,081
Aw, come on, Bernie.
Don't be shy.
924
00:47:50,105 --> 00:47:51,539
No way, no, no, no, no.
925
00:47:51,572 --> 00:47:52,674
Let it out.
926
00:47:52,707 --> 00:47:54,184
I'm no stravinsky.
I can't, I can't...
927
00:47:54,208 --> 00:47:57,980
Well, Joan is. Joan! Joan, help.
928
00:47:58,013 --> 00:47:59,681
Why don't you get us started.
929
00:47:59,714 --> 00:48:01,683
- I'll join in.
- Ah.
930
00:48:01,716 --> 00:48:03,018
Come on. Come on, Bernie.
931
00:48:03,052 --> 00:48:04,318
Okay, fine, fine, fine.
932
00:48:04,352 --> 00:48:05,921
Sing it!
933
00:48:07,022 --> 00:48:08,090
Okay. Fine.
934
00:48:08,123 --> 00:48:12,161
โช There's a fortune
in abortion โช
935
00:48:12,193 --> 00:48:16,397
โช Just a twist of the wrist
and you're through โช
936
00:48:16,431 --> 00:48:21,036
โช The population of the nation โช
937
00:48:21,070 --> 00:48:24,505
โช Won't grow
if it's left up to you โช
938
00:48:24,539 --> 00:48:29,178
โช There's a fortune
in abortion โช
939
00:48:29,210 --> 00:48:33,281
โช There's a gold mine
in the sex line โช
940
00:48:33,314 --> 00:48:38,020
โช Only rabbits
have those habits โช
941
00:48:38,053 --> 00:48:42,790
โช Oh there's a fortune
in abortion โช
942
00:48:42,825 --> 00:48:48,262
โช You never bother
the future father โช
943
00:48:48,296 --> 00:48:49,764
I found the catholics!
944
00:48:49,797 --> 00:48:51,399
Those Vatican devils,
945
00:48:51,432 --> 00:48:53,434
starting right here
with the big cheese:
946
00:48:53,468 --> 00:48:55,971
Cardinal Cooke, father mchugh,
947
00:48:56,004 --> 00:48:58,372
Robert byrn, Charlie rice,
948
00:48:58,406 --> 00:49:00,909
Ellen mccormack, even ed golden.
949
00:49:00,943 --> 00:49:03,544
If we're gonna succeed,
people have gotta be scared!
950
00:49:03,578 --> 00:49:05,780
Well, men are governed
by lines of intellect,
951
00:49:05,814 --> 00:49:07,482
women by curves of emotion.
952
00:49:07,515 --> 00:49:09,127
That's our catholic strategy,
right there.
953
00:49:09,151 --> 00:49:10,618
Perfect.
954
00:49:10,651 --> 00:49:12,921
Well, these guys have been
scaring people for years!
955
00:49:12,955 --> 00:49:14,555
How are we looking
on the new numbers?
956
00:49:14,589 --> 00:49:16,591
A million illegal abortions
a year;
957
00:49:16,624 --> 00:49:18,292
10,000 die in back alleys.
958
00:49:18,326 --> 00:49:20,162
I completely made that up.
959
00:49:20,195 --> 00:49:22,463
A million illegal
abortions a year?
960
00:49:22,497 --> 00:49:26,434
Ten thousand die in back alleys?
Not even close.
961
00:49:26,467 --> 00:49:28,179
That's like a hand grenade
in a maternity ward.
962
00:49:28,203 --> 00:49:31,305
But we need slogans,
battle cries.
963
00:49:31,339 --> 00:49:32,473
Not statistics.
964
00:49:32,507 --> 00:49:33,842
People trust numbers.
965
00:49:33,876 --> 00:49:35,010
Yeah.
966
00:49:35,043 --> 00:49:37,779
Cyril's right.
People do trust numbers.
967
00:49:37,813 --> 00:49:39,848
But Betty is also right.
968
00:49:39,882 --> 00:49:41,783
People need something
to grab on to,
969
00:49:41,817 --> 00:49:43,952
something to hook
in their brains
970
00:49:43,986 --> 00:49:45,696
that feel like
they're part of the movement.
971
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:46,654
You want a slogan?
972
00:49:46,687 --> 00:49:47,687
Yeah.
973
00:49:48,723 --> 00:49:50,358
I have a slogan.
974
00:49:50,391 --> 00:49:53,427
It's a woman's body.
It's her right to choose.
975
00:49:53,461 --> 00:49:55,164
We are the pro-choice people.
976
00:49:55,197 --> 00:49:56,865
- That's amazing.
- Pro-choice.
977
00:49:56,899 --> 00:49:57,966
Uh-huh.
978
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,333
Pro... we're pro-choice.
979
00:49:59,367 --> 00:50:02,838
Yes, it's-it's pro-freedom,
it-it's pro-Liberty.
980
00:50:02,871 --> 00:50:04,472
Who can argue with it?
981
00:50:04,505 --> 00:50:06,641
They came up with the slogan...
Pro-choice.
982
00:50:06,674 --> 00:50:08,509
Pro-choice?
983
00:50:10,145 --> 00:50:14,049
What an evasive, fraudulent
and deceptive term.
984
00:50:14,082 --> 00:50:15,616
According to recent statistics,
985
00:50:15,650 --> 00:50:18,220
over one million women
are having illegal abortions
986
00:50:18,253 --> 00:50:19,787
every year in america.
987
00:50:19,822 --> 00:50:21,556
And over 10,000 are dying
988
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:23,691
from these back alley
type procedures.
989
00:50:27,930 --> 00:50:29,832
Why aren't we taking
our own polls?
990
00:50:29,865 --> 00:50:31,967
They told the press
that one in three catholics
991
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,235
are for abortion!
992
00:50:33,268 --> 00:50:34,545
Because we don't have the money!
993
00:50:34,569 --> 00:50:35,670
Why didn't this Jane roe
994
00:50:35,703 --> 00:50:37,505
just give the baby up
for adoption?
995
00:50:37,538 --> 00:50:40,242
There is a long waiting list
for white babies.
996
00:50:41,542 --> 00:50:42,542
This was political.
997
00:50:44,512 --> 00:50:45,848
Judge Hughes kept her hidden.
998
00:50:47,850 --> 00:50:50,085
We gotta get Wade on the phone.
999
00:50:55,389 --> 00:50:56,490
District attorney's office,
1000
00:50:56,524 --> 00:50:57,558
may I help you?
1001
00:50:57,592 --> 00:50:59,261
Robert byrn for Henry Wade.
1002
00:50:59,294 --> 00:51:01,196
What can I do for you, Bobby?
1003
00:51:01,230 --> 00:51:02,865
I've got the team here.
1004
00:51:02,898 --> 00:51:05,033
The supreme court
will hear the case!
1005
00:51:06,801 --> 00:51:08,036
Let us know if we can help.
1006
00:51:10,873 --> 00:51:12,074
It was time to prepare
1007
00:51:12,107 --> 00:51:13,108
for the supreme court.
1008
00:51:14,408 --> 00:51:16,377
While some focused
on saving lives,
1009
00:51:19,047 --> 00:51:20,781
others had no idea
what was coming.
1010
00:51:23,285 --> 00:51:25,419
Everyone had their own agenda.
1011
00:51:25,453 --> 00:51:27,364
We used Sarah and the lawyers
from planned parenthood
1012
00:51:27,388 --> 00:51:28,489
to fulfill ours.
1013
00:51:31,326 --> 00:51:32,895
Certainties as unquestioned
1014
00:51:32,928 --> 00:51:36,231
as the U.S. constitution
itself, trembled!
1015
00:51:56,084 --> 00:51:57,652
All rise!
1016
00:52:13,969 --> 00:52:16,570
There
were still only seven justices
1017
00:52:16,604 --> 00:52:18,472
because Nixon still
wasn't able to
1018
00:52:18,506 --> 00:52:20,342
get his two picks confirmed.
1019
00:52:23,211 --> 00:52:25,414
I am completely out of my depth.
1020
00:52:25,446 --> 00:52:26,781
Don't be nervous.
1021
00:52:26,815 --> 00:52:28,649
You had the best of the best
prepare you.
1022
00:52:29,517 --> 00:52:30,953
You'll be fine.
1023
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,682
We will hear arguments
1024
00:53:01,716 --> 00:53:05,120
in roe against Wade.
1025
00:53:05,153 --> 00:53:07,322
Mrs. Weddington,
you may proceed.
1026
00:53:19,700 --> 00:53:21,669
Mr. Chief justice,
may it please the court.
1027
00:53:23,372 --> 00:53:26,141
The court declared
the Texas abortion law
1028
00:53:26,174 --> 00:53:29,577
to be unconstitutional
for two reasons.
1029
00:53:29,610 --> 00:53:32,414
First, the law was vague,
1030
00:53:32,447 --> 00:53:36,018
and second,
it violated a woman's right
1031
00:53:36,051 --> 00:53:39,087
to continue or terminate
a pregnancy.
1032
00:53:39,121 --> 00:53:42,157
The Texas law permits
abortions be performed
1033
00:53:42,190 --> 00:53:45,193
only for the purpose of
saving the life of the woman.
1034
00:53:47,029 --> 00:53:49,597
When this case of yours
1035
00:53:49,630 --> 00:53:51,166
was in the district court,
1036
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:54,236
the case of vuitch against
the United States
1037
00:53:54,269 --> 00:53:56,505
had not been decided here.
1038
00:53:56,537 --> 00:53:57,571
That is correct.
1039
00:53:57,605 --> 00:53:59,107
Now that it has,
1040
00:53:59,141 --> 00:54:01,009
do you think that
that disposes of
1041
00:54:01,043 --> 00:54:03,078
some of the questions
you're raising now?
1042
00:54:03,111 --> 00:54:05,447
Your honor, I do not.
1043
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,015
In the vuitch decision,
1044
00:54:07,049 --> 00:54:09,918
this court was working with
a statute which provided
1045
00:54:09,951 --> 00:54:11,752
that an abortion
could be permitted
1046
00:54:11,786 --> 00:54:14,056
for reasons of health or life.
1047
00:54:14,089 --> 00:54:17,092
Does Texas law,
in other areas of the law,
1048
00:54:17,125 --> 00:54:19,461
give rights to the unborn?
1049
00:54:19,494 --> 00:54:24,199
In an area such as trusts,
estates, wills or elsewhere?
1050
00:54:24,232 --> 00:54:27,436
The supreme court of Texas
recently held a case
1051
00:54:27,469 --> 00:54:30,638
in which there is action for
prenatal injuries at any stage
1052
00:54:30,671 --> 00:54:33,442
prior to birth,
but only upon the condition
1053
00:54:33,475 --> 00:54:35,243
that it be born alive.
1054
00:54:50,859 --> 00:54:53,495
Mr. Justice, it's an old joke,
1055
00:54:53,528 --> 00:54:58,233
but when a man argues against
two beautiful ladies,
1056
00:54:58,266 --> 00:54:59,700
they're gonna have
the last word.
1057
00:55:05,639 --> 00:55:10,145
As to the-as to the unmarried
pregnant female,
1058
00:55:10,178 --> 00:55:12,680
a unique situation arises.
1059
00:55:12,713 --> 00:55:14,116
Is her action moot?
1060
00:55:15,951 --> 00:55:18,520
It has been recognized
by the appellant's counsel
1061
00:55:18,553 --> 00:55:21,423
that she is no longer pregnant.
1062
00:55:21,456 --> 00:55:24,860
Of course, if moot,
there is no case or controversy.
1063
00:55:24,893 --> 00:55:26,928
- Class action, wasn't it?
- Yes,
1064
00:55:26,962 --> 00:55:28,796
but the whole purpose
of class action
1065
00:55:28,830 --> 00:55:31,699
is to have a representative
in court.
1066
00:55:31,732 --> 00:55:34,269
So, what procedure
would you suggest
1067
00:55:34,302 --> 00:55:37,705
for any pregnant female
in the state of Texas
1068
00:55:37,738 --> 00:55:41,510
to ever get
judicial consideration?
1069
00:55:41,543 --> 00:55:42,978
We can take judicial notice
1070
00:55:43,011 --> 00:55:45,147
of the fact
that at any given moment,
1071
00:55:45,180 --> 00:55:49,050
there are unwed pregnant females
in the state of Texas.
1072
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,388
I think she makes her choice
1073
00:55:53,421 --> 00:55:55,857
prior to the time
that she becomes pregnant.
1074
00:55:55,891 --> 00:55:58,059
Maybe she makes her choice
1075
00:55:58,093 --> 00:56:01,129
when she decides
to live in Texas.
1076
00:56:10,038 --> 00:56:12,040
It should've been debated
in congress, not here.
1077
00:56:13,674 --> 00:56:15,477
"Courts are
the mere instruments of the law,
1078
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:16,978
and can will nothing."
John Marshall.
1079
00:56:17,012 --> 00:56:18,380
Politicians
don't have the courage
1080
00:56:18,413 --> 00:56:19,814
to argue with the legislature.
1081
00:56:19,848 --> 00:56:20,916
The right to life
1082
00:56:20,949 --> 00:56:22,093
is the cornerstone
of our government.
1083
00:56:22,117 --> 00:56:23,885
It's a foundation
of the constitution.
1084
00:56:23,919 --> 00:56:27,088
They were mocking him in there.
1085
00:56:27,122 --> 00:56:29,424
I don't even know why
this is in the supreme court.
1086
00:56:29,457 --> 00:56:31,092
There's no factual record
in this case,
1087
00:56:31,126 --> 00:56:33,161
no trial, no expert witnesses,
1088
00:56:33,195 --> 00:56:34,663
no description of evidence,
1089
00:56:34,695 --> 00:56:36,706
no expert witness testimony.
It didn't even go through
1090
00:56:36,730 --> 00:56:37,698
an appeal!
1091
00:56:37,731 --> 00:56:38,934
This is a conspiracy.
1092
00:56:38,967 --> 00:56:39,733
They're
laughin' at him in there!
1093
00:56:39,767 --> 00:56:41,169
Laughin' at him!
1094
00:56:41,203 --> 00:56:42,780
They're not laughin' with him.
They're laughin' at him!
1095
00:56:42,804 --> 00:56:44,940
It couldn't have been that bad.
1096
00:56:44,973 --> 00:56:46,841
You're a law professor.
1097
00:56:46,875 --> 00:56:49,244
He didn't even address
the rights of the unborn
1098
00:56:49,277 --> 00:56:51,346
in property law, probate law,
1099
00:56:51,379 --> 00:56:54,282
criminal law, tort law,
the list goes on.
1100
00:56:54,316 --> 00:56:58,019
The judges ask him what rights,
if any, do the unborn have,
1101
00:56:58,053 --> 00:57:00,788
and he just stood there
and didn't say anything.
1102
00:57:00,822 --> 00:57:02,624
I gotta go
before I blow a gasket!
1103
00:57:05,994 --> 00:57:08,363
There's no more discussion
for...?
1104
00:57:08,396 --> 00:57:09,931
For roe?
1105
00:57:11,967 --> 00:57:13,301
The four justices on the right
1106
00:57:13,335 --> 00:57:15,136
with their hands up
1107
00:57:15,170 --> 00:57:18,940
voted to legalize abortion,
while the three on the left,
1108
00:57:18,974 --> 00:57:23,411
including chief justice burger,
were supporting life.
1109
00:57:23,445 --> 00:57:26,681
This made it four to three
in favor of abortion.
1110
00:57:39,594 --> 00:57:41,563
Apologize, gentlemen.
1111
00:57:41,596 --> 00:57:43,632
In the matter of roe v. Wade,
1112
00:57:43,665 --> 00:57:46,501
I want the case reargued.
1113
00:57:46,534 --> 00:57:47,902
Chief justice burger was losing,
1114
00:57:47,936 --> 00:57:49,671
so he wanted the case reheard
1115
00:57:49,704 --> 00:57:53,241
to flip the vote
in favor of life.
1116
00:57:53,275 --> 00:57:54,242
Well, besides the obvious,
1117
00:57:54,276 --> 00:57:55,577
what's your reasoning?
1118
00:57:55,610 --> 00:57:56,621
Four to three in favor of roe,
1119
00:57:56,645 --> 00:57:58,013
it's very close.
1120
00:57:58,046 --> 00:57:59,414
We've had
close decisions before.
1121
00:57:59,447 --> 00:58:00,757
Because
it didn't go Warren's way.
1122
00:58:00,781 --> 00:58:02,083
That has nothing to do with it.
1123
00:58:02,117 --> 00:58:03,194
The importance of this issue
1124
00:58:03,218 --> 00:58:05,820
merits a full bench treatment.
1125
00:58:05,854 --> 00:58:06,855
Of course, Harry.
1126
00:58:06,888 --> 00:58:07,965
Because you're Warren's man.
1127
00:58:07,989 --> 00:58:09,291
I resent that.
1128
00:58:09,324 --> 00:58:11,126
You were
best man at his wedding.
1129
00:58:11,159 --> 00:58:13,794
It was my idea to reargue
in the first place.
1130
00:58:13,828 --> 00:58:17,532
Harry, you're here because
he recommended you to Nixon.
1131
00:58:17,565 --> 00:58:19,701
Enough! We need to wait!
1132
00:58:19,734 --> 00:58:21,336
And why is that?
Because this decision
1133
00:58:21,369 --> 00:58:24,172
might affect your old pal
Nixon's re-election?
1134
00:58:24,205 --> 00:58:26,641
Really, Potter?
1135
00:58:26,675 --> 00:58:29,477
Can we rest the egos
1136
00:58:29,511 --> 00:58:31,813
and try to get a little work
done, please?
1137
00:58:31,846 --> 00:58:34,182
Does anyone else
have an opinion on this?
1138
00:58:34,215 --> 00:58:35,350
Yes, I don't see any problem
1139
00:58:35,383 --> 00:58:36,551
with rearguing.
1140
00:58:36,584 --> 00:58:38,053
Nixon opposes abortion,
1141
00:58:38,086 --> 00:58:40,789
so I'm sure his new justices
will follow suit.
1142
00:58:40,822 --> 00:58:42,791
Two new justices
voting Nixon's way
1143
00:58:42,824 --> 00:58:44,159
will change the outcome here.
1144
00:58:44,192 --> 00:58:45,894
Political allegiance
should not affect
1145
00:58:45,927 --> 00:58:48,563
how we interpret
the constitution, gentlemen.
1146
00:58:48,596 --> 00:58:49,831
Yes, and with that,
1147
00:58:49,864 --> 00:58:51,900
I'm appointing Harry
to pen the opinion.
1148
00:58:51,933 --> 00:58:54,135
I'm the senior justice
in the majority.
1149
00:58:54,169 --> 00:58:56,204
I've got to agree
with bill, Warren.
1150
00:58:56,237 --> 00:58:58,015
- That's not standard protocol.
- I'm the chief justice.
1151
00:58:58,039 --> 00:58:59,341
I determine protocol.
1152
00:58:59,374 --> 00:59:02,043
You are trying to control this,
Warren, old buddy.
1153
00:59:02,077 --> 00:59:03,745
That is completely unethical.
1154
00:59:03,778 --> 00:59:05,380
Aren't you the one
that pushed this case?
1155
00:59:08,249 --> 00:59:09,884
All those in favor of rearguing?
1156
00:59:12,053 --> 00:59:13,088
They voted six to one
1157
00:59:13,121 --> 00:59:15,857
to reargue roe v. Wade.
1158
00:59:15,890 --> 00:59:19,327
There you go. That's it.
1159
00:59:19,361 --> 00:59:21,429
Justice Douglas was the only one
1160
00:59:21,463 --> 00:59:23,231
to oppose
hearing the case again.
1161
00:59:29,771 --> 00:59:31,139
- William?
- Hmm.
1162
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:33,375
Bill.
1163
00:59:40,648 --> 00:59:42,183
It's a letter of protest
1164
00:59:42,217 --> 00:59:44,519
including my draft
dissent to reargue.
1165
00:59:44,552 --> 00:59:46,020
The draft dissent
1166
00:59:46,054 --> 00:59:49,457
is a formal letter that outlines
justice Douglas' reasons
1167
00:59:49,491 --> 00:59:54,462
as to why he thought roe v. Wade
should not be reheard.
1168
00:59:54,496 --> 00:59:55,930
And why are you
giving this to me?
1169
00:59:57,899 --> 01:00:00,902
Burger abused his power.
1170
01:00:00,935 --> 01:00:02,570
I'm the senior justice
after him,
1171
01:00:02,604 --> 01:00:04,906
he was supposed to
assign the case to me.
1172
01:00:04,939 --> 01:00:07,409
That's already been decided,
okay?
1173
01:00:07,442 --> 01:00:08,910
Get off that.
1174
01:00:08,943 --> 01:00:09,954
Chief justice
is going to make sure
1175
01:00:09,978 --> 01:00:11,579
that we reargue this case.
1176
01:00:11,613 --> 01:00:15,250
The senate just confirmed
rehnquist and Powell.
1177
01:00:15,283 --> 01:00:17,552
That will flip the decision.
1178
01:00:17,585 --> 01:00:18,620
You see, justice Douglas
1179
01:00:18,653 --> 01:00:20,555
supported Jane roe,
1180
01:00:20,588 --> 01:00:22,791
and right now, the vote
was four to three
1181
01:00:22,825 --> 01:00:24,993
in his favor to win.
1182
01:00:25,026 --> 01:00:27,962
He was afraid if there was
gonna be a reargument
1183
01:00:27,996 --> 01:00:31,599
with two new justices,
the vote would flip
1184
01:00:31,633 --> 01:00:34,202
and it would be five-four,
and he would lose.
1185
01:00:39,974 --> 01:00:41,676
Has burger seen this?
1186
01:00:41,709 --> 01:00:43,178
Not yet.
1187
01:00:45,881 --> 01:00:47,917
You cannot
send this letter to the press.
1188
01:00:47,949 --> 01:00:49,284
Promise me
you're voting with us.
1189
01:00:49,317 --> 01:00:50,652
How dare you!
1190
01:00:50,685 --> 01:00:53,087
Promise me now, or this is
going to be published.
1191
01:00:53,121 --> 01:00:54,789
You will disgrace the court.
1192
01:00:54,824 --> 01:00:56,758
If you don't wanna see that
in the post,
1193
01:00:56,791 --> 01:00:58,460
you need to assure me
that a reargument
1194
01:00:58,493 --> 01:01:00,228
will not change your vote.
1195
01:01:19,013 --> 01:01:20,982
You need to
make an issue of this.
1196
01:01:21,015 --> 01:01:22,852
I don't
understand how a single justice
1197
01:01:22,885 --> 01:01:24,686
can order things his way.
1198
01:01:24,719 --> 01:01:26,488
Now you know how women feel.
1199
01:01:26,521 --> 01:01:28,156
I'm late, I have to
get to the clinic.
1200
01:01:28,189 --> 01:01:30,458
I wish you wouldn't spend
so much time at that place.
1201
01:01:30,492 --> 01:01:31,659
That place?
1202
01:01:31,693 --> 01:01:32,895
Planned parenthood?
1203
01:01:32,928 --> 01:01:34,496
You don't want us
supporting women?
1204
01:01:36,598 --> 01:01:38,166
We'll talk about it later.
1205
01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:39,367
Okay.
1206
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,836
- Andy.
- William.
1207
01:01:40,870 --> 01:01:42,310
- You're looking lovely.
- Thank you.
1208
01:01:45,941 --> 01:01:47,342
Planned parenthood?
1209
01:01:47,375 --> 01:01:49,377
Planned parenthood?
1210
01:01:49,410 --> 01:01:52,882
Nobody knew justice Stewart's
wife worked there.
1211
01:01:52,915 --> 01:01:54,817
You need to recuse yourself.
1212
01:01:54,850 --> 01:01:56,150
Look, bill.
1213
01:01:56,184 --> 01:01:58,086
My wife volunteers there,
not me.
1214
01:01:58,119 --> 01:01:59,889
This is a major
conflict of interest.
1215
01:01:59,922 --> 01:02:02,190
If word got out.
1216
01:02:02,223 --> 01:02:04,425
Please, you need to
control your home.
1217
01:02:04,459 --> 01:02:06,694
What burger did was worse.
1218
01:02:06,728 --> 01:02:08,272
He appointed Harry
to write the opinion.
1219
01:02:08,296 --> 01:02:10,698
That is a gross
abandonment of protocol.
1220
01:02:10,732 --> 01:02:12,534
We were ready
to vote this four-three.
1221
01:02:15,136 --> 01:02:17,873
Potter,
here's my letter and dissent.
1222
01:02:17,907 --> 01:02:19,440
You know what I resent?
1223
01:02:19,474 --> 01:02:21,276
I resent the fact
that burger thinks
1224
01:02:21,309 --> 01:02:23,578
he has rehnquist and Powell
in his pocket.
1225
01:02:23,611 --> 01:02:25,380
They're brand new,
1226
01:02:25,413 --> 01:02:27,181
and burger acts
like he owns the court.
1227
01:02:27,215 --> 01:02:29,617
But he has no right to
hold this up for those two.
1228
01:02:29,651 --> 01:02:32,053
He wants to make sure
the vote goes his way,
1229
01:02:32,086 --> 01:02:34,188
that's why he's
demanding a reargument.
1230
01:02:34,222 --> 01:02:35,590
Right.
And that will flip the vote
1231
01:02:35,623 --> 01:02:37,225
and we lose five-four.
1232
01:02:37,258 --> 01:02:40,595
If we don't sort this out,
fur will fly today.
1233
01:02:55,945 --> 01:02:57,478
You see, in the end,
1234
01:02:57,512 --> 01:02:59,915
it was justice Stewart who
leaked the court's internal vote
1235
01:02:59,949 --> 01:03:01,549
to the Washington post.
1236
01:03:01,583 --> 01:03:04,053
He wanted to stop the case
from being reheard
1237
01:03:04,085 --> 01:03:06,754
because he wanted abortion
legalized.
1238
01:03:06,788 --> 01:03:08,623
So, judge, how's the wife?
1239
01:03:08,656 --> 01:03:10,792
Cut the small talk, Bob.
1240
01:03:10,826 --> 01:03:12,962
Look, I understand
your wife was a volunteer
1241
01:03:12,995 --> 01:03:15,630
for planned parenthood.
Is that why we're here?
1242
01:03:15,663 --> 01:03:17,332
Absolutely not.
1243
01:03:17,365 --> 01:03:19,667
All my decisions have to do
with law and the constitution.
1244
01:03:19,701 --> 01:03:21,202
Now, let's get this over with.
1245
01:03:28,209 --> 01:03:30,144
Are you sure you want to
give this to me?
1246
01:03:30,178 --> 01:03:31,446
Burger is gonna hit the roof
1247
01:03:31,479 --> 01:03:33,514
when he sees this
on the front page of the post.
1248
01:03:33,548 --> 01:03:35,483
Yeah, well, he deserves it.
1249
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,435
I wish
you hadn't given me this case.
1250
01:03:54,469 --> 01:03:55,981
Have you-have
you seen the post this morning?
1251
01:03:56,005 --> 01:03:58,272
I saw it.
1252
01:03:58,306 --> 01:04:00,075
- I saw it!
- Now everyone knows how I voted.
1253
01:04:01,743 --> 01:04:03,378
The media is outrageous.
1254
01:04:03,411 --> 01:04:05,848
Media? There's a leak!
1255
01:04:05,881 --> 01:04:08,083
The appetite for this nonsense
is only worse.
1256
01:04:09,717 --> 01:04:11,486
How long we been friends?
1257
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:13,354
Dayton bluff elementary.
1258
01:04:15,390 --> 01:04:16,658
It wasn't you, was it?
1259
01:04:21,830 --> 01:04:22,830
I'm sorry.
1260
01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:26,234
I'm out of sorts.
1261
01:04:26,267 --> 01:04:31,339
My family, my own family,
is up in arms about my vote.
1262
01:04:31,372 --> 01:04:32,483
They've been
watching television.
1263
01:04:32,507 --> 01:04:35,443
I don't-i don't know
what to do, Harry.
1264
01:04:42,350 --> 01:04:46,254
Warren.
I question my competency.
1265
01:04:48,023 --> 01:04:49,058
Don't.
1266
01:04:52,427 --> 01:04:55,430
Your decade of counsel
with the Mayo clinic,
1267
01:04:56,865 --> 01:04:59,001
it will be very helpful here.
1268
01:04:59,034 --> 01:05:01,736
I've only been here a year.
1269
01:05:01,769 --> 01:05:04,572
We gotta control this, Harry.
1270
01:05:04,605 --> 01:05:05,941
It's gotten out of hand.
1271
01:05:05,974 --> 01:05:07,374
Do you know
what they're calling me?
1272
01:05:08,811 --> 01:05:10,278
Your boy.
1273
01:05:10,311 --> 01:05:15,851
They are calling me your boy,
the Minnesota twin.
1274
01:05:15,884 --> 01:05:19,253
I trust you, Harry,
and I need your help.
1275
01:05:19,287 --> 01:05:20,755
I need your support here.
1276
01:05:27,462 --> 01:05:29,464
I'm on the fence.
1277
01:05:29,497 --> 01:05:31,232
Harry, with all this
public pressure,
1278
01:05:31,265 --> 01:05:32,567
we've got to get this right.
1279
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,470
We're going to be
remembered for this.
1280
01:05:35,503 --> 01:05:37,139
Perhaps this is
beyond the authority
1281
01:05:37,172 --> 01:05:38,573
of the supreme court.
1282
01:05:40,675 --> 01:05:43,311
We are the law
of the land, Harry.
1283
01:05:45,747 --> 01:05:47,415
We are the law of the land.
1284
01:05:52,988 --> 01:05:55,556
Abortion
was still illegal in Texas.
1285
01:05:55,590 --> 01:05:58,593
So, every Friday, the flight
from Dallas to El Paso
1286
01:05:58,626 --> 01:05:59,794
was booked solid.
1287
01:05:59,828 --> 01:06:00,829
They landed
1288
01:06:00,863 --> 01:06:02,097
and crossed the border.
1289
01:06:02,131 --> 01:06:04,499
It was called
the abortion flight.
1290
01:06:04,532 --> 01:06:06,068
Planned parenthood and naral
1291
01:06:06,101 --> 01:06:08,170
fundraised
at the playboy mansion.
1292
01:06:08,203 --> 01:06:09,838
I mean, it's kind of
hypocritical
1293
01:06:09,872 --> 01:06:11,140
that we exploited women
1294
01:06:11,173 --> 01:06:12,740
for women's rights,
1295
01:06:12,774 --> 01:06:15,177
but hey, anything
for a good cause.
1296
01:06:18,113 --> 01:06:19,614
Larry and I were on a roll.
1297
01:06:19,647 --> 01:06:22,117
We were performing
200 abortions a day,
1298
01:06:22,151 --> 01:06:24,652
which was making
my clinic 50 grand.
1299
01:06:24,685 --> 01:06:27,655
Today, that would be like
half a million a week.
1300
01:06:37,166 --> 01:06:40,535
And that's how
I became a published author.
1301
01:06:40,568 --> 01:06:42,104
That's so far out.
1302
01:06:42,137 --> 01:06:43,380
You know,
Larry here changed the laws
1303
01:06:43,404 --> 01:06:45,640
in half the country,
singlehandedly.
1304
01:06:45,673 --> 01:06:47,976
Bernie and I own
most of the clinics in New York.
1305
01:06:48,010 --> 01:06:49,710
Oh, my god. That's sick.
1306
01:06:49,744 --> 01:06:51,113
And how did you do that?
1307
01:06:51,146 --> 01:06:52,680
We control the media.
1308
01:06:52,713 --> 01:06:54,515
Get real.
1309
01:06:54,549 --> 01:06:55,616
We do.
1310
01:06:55,650 --> 01:06:57,451
They write
whatever we tell them.
1311
01:06:57,485 --> 01:06:59,687
This one time,
we got the New York times
1312
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:00,989
to publish a poll
1313
01:07:01,023 --> 01:07:04,159
on how many doctors
were in favor of abortion.
1314
01:07:04,193 --> 01:07:06,295
We said 87% sounded good.
1315
01:07:06,327 --> 01:07:08,997
How many doctors again
was that out of, Larry?
1316
01:07:09,031 --> 01:07:10,665
About 40,000, I think.
1317
01:07:10,698 --> 01:07:12,700
Can you believe
they printed that?
1318
01:07:12,733 --> 01:07:14,136
And then, we got them to say
1319
01:07:14,169 --> 01:07:17,973
that 60% of Americans
favored abortion.
1320
01:07:18,006 --> 01:07:20,341
Why didn't you guys
just do a real poll?
1321
01:07:20,374 --> 01:07:22,643
Because
if a real poll was taken,
1322
01:07:22,677 --> 01:07:26,414
nowhere near 60% of Americans
favored abortion.
1323
01:07:26,447 --> 01:07:30,384
So, we made it up, and the media
didn't even question it.
1324
01:07:30,418 --> 01:07:33,155
This is a tactic
of the self-fulfilling lie.
1325
01:07:33,188 --> 01:07:36,557
You see, few people
care to be in the minority.
1326
01:07:36,591 --> 01:07:38,492
There's nowhere near
a half a million women
1327
01:07:38,526 --> 01:07:39,904
- are having back alley abortions.
- Yeah. You see,
1328
01:07:39,928 --> 01:07:42,264
if you keep repeating
the big lie over and over again,
1329
01:07:42,297 --> 01:07:44,532
it generally
convinces the public.
1330
01:07:44,565 --> 01:07:46,869
Well, 10,000 women die
from back alley abortions.
1331
01:07:48,603 --> 01:07:49,905
- What?
- Larry, wait.
1332
01:07:49,938 --> 01:07:51,340
We made that up, too.
1333
01:07:51,372 --> 01:07:53,507
Yeah, those are my statistics
I came up with.
1334
01:07:53,541 --> 01:07:55,878
- Yeah!
- You guys lied?
1335
01:07:55,911 --> 01:07:57,112
I wouldn't call it lying.
1336
01:07:57,145 --> 01:07:58,289
Yeah, it was
for the greater good.
1337
01:07:58,313 --> 01:08:01,083
Planned parenthood,
they also helped.
1338
01:08:02,317 --> 01:08:03,852
And no one found out?
1339
01:08:03,886 --> 01:08:08,290
Found out?
Honey, the media was in on it.
1340
01:08:08,323 --> 01:08:11,293
You see, for example,
if you check out time magazine,
1341
01:08:11,326 --> 01:08:13,862
we planted four
pro-abortion stories
1342
01:08:13,896 --> 01:08:14,963
every year.
1343
01:08:14,997 --> 01:08:18,934
So, 1969, and we have it in.
1344
01:08:18,967 --> 01:08:20,735
March, September,
two in November.
1345
01:08:20,768 --> 01:08:24,072
In 1970, February,
march, April, September,
1346
01:08:24,106 --> 01:08:26,774
in '71, march, may,
September, November,
1347
01:08:26,808 --> 01:08:27,809
and so on and so forth.
1348
01:08:27,843 --> 01:08:29,410
We kept doing it.
1349
01:08:29,443 --> 01:08:31,646
We also put pro-abortion
stories in TV shows and films.
1350
01:08:31,679 --> 01:08:33,048
Yeah, remember that movie...
1351
01:08:33,081 --> 01:08:35,384
Oh, what was it...
Cabaret with Liza minelli?
1352
01:08:35,416 --> 01:08:36,751
Yes.
1353
01:08:36,784 --> 01:08:42,124
Okay, wait!
Time magazine. Really?
1354
01:08:42,157 --> 01:08:43,691
And how did you guys do that?
1355
01:08:45,193 --> 01:08:47,162
We used each other as sources.
1356
01:09:00,309 --> 01:09:01,986
Should we really be
doing this on mother's day?
1357
01:09:02,010 --> 01:09:03,611
Exactly.
1358
01:09:03,644 --> 01:09:04,644
All right.
1359
01:09:09,284 --> 01:09:11,153
How's the rally going, bubalah?
1360
01:09:12,321 --> 01:09:14,089
Yeah, hi.
1361
01:09:14,122 --> 01:09:15,790
Larry got
commissions by referring women
1362
01:09:15,824 --> 01:09:18,360
to abortionists
all over the country.
1363
01:09:18,393 --> 01:09:21,796
In Chicago, he even used rabbis
and protestant clergy
1364
01:09:21,830 --> 01:09:23,966
to help find them doctors.
1365
01:09:23,999 --> 01:09:25,700
Is my referral there?
1366
01:09:25,733 --> 01:09:27,869
With me, as we speak.
1367
01:09:29,304 --> 01:09:30,671
Okay, good.
1368
01:09:34,508 --> 01:09:35,844
Yeah, I gotta run.
1369
01:09:37,012 --> 01:09:38,713
Such a good guy, that Larry,
1370
01:09:38,746 --> 01:09:41,149
making sure
the two of you are okay.
1371
01:09:42,351 --> 01:09:44,719
I really need to
get this done soon.
1372
01:09:44,752 --> 01:09:47,055
I-I recommend going to New York.
1373
01:09:47,089 --> 01:09:51,059
Larry's partner Bernie,
he's terrific.
1374
01:09:51,093 --> 01:09:53,661
You don't have anyone
in Chicago?
1375
01:09:53,694 --> 01:09:56,832
I can't leave.
What do I tell my husband?
1376
01:09:56,865 --> 01:09:58,066
Oh, jeez.
1377
01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:00,235
Oy vey, you're not the husband?
1378
01:10:01,403 --> 01:10:03,105
You know it's not legal here.
1379
01:10:04,272 --> 01:10:07,075
Please, rabbi, I-I beg you.
1380
01:10:07,109 --> 01:10:08,310
Don't cry, don't cry.
1381
01:10:08,343 --> 01:10:11,645
It's okay. It's okay.
Go see Dr. Ketchum.
1382
01:10:11,679 --> 01:10:13,647
He's not bad.
1383
01:10:13,681 --> 01:10:15,183
And we're not
gonna get in trouble?
1384
01:10:15,217 --> 01:10:18,053
Oh, boychik,
I take care of everything.
1385
01:10:19,388 --> 01:10:20,388
Okay.
1386
01:10:21,522 --> 01:10:23,557
Thank you.
1387
01:10:23,591 --> 01:10:26,094
Dozens write
amicus briefs, and we get four.
1388
01:10:27,362 --> 01:10:28,729
They lied to rockefeller
1389
01:10:28,763 --> 01:10:30,399
about the numbers on abortion,
1390
01:10:30,432 --> 01:10:32,700
and New York fell
just like that.
1391
01:10:32,733 --> 01:10:35,404
When you see
a kid out of law school
1392
01:10:35,437 --> 01:10:37,906
get to argue to
the highest court in Texas,
1393
01:10:37,939 --> 01:10:40,342
and you can't get
a job promotion.
1394
01:10:40,375 --> 01:10:42,444
I could have become
a cause cรฉlรจbre
1395
01:10:42,477 --> 01:10:44,880
if I had taken it up to court,
1396
01:10:44,913 --> 01:10:47,715
but it's about knowing
the price of the game.
1397
01:10:47,748 --> 01:10:50,352
I wouldn't have waited
20 years; I'd have sued them.
1398
01:10:50,385 --> 01:10:54,189
It will be easier
for those coming behind me.
1399
01:10:54,222 --> 01:10:56,724
You don't always
have to be so strong.
1400
01:10:56,757 --> 01:10:58,626
It's not really fair.
1401
01:10:58,659 --> 01:11:00,694
Life isn't fair.
1402
01:11:00,728 --> 01:11:03,065
It doesn't mean I condone it.
1403
01:11:03,098 --> 01:11:05,766
When given a choice of being
kind or right, be kind.
1404
01:11:07,502 --> 01:11:08,636
You can be angry, Mildred.
1405
01:11:11,106 --> 01:11:13,542
You certainly
have been a role model.
1406
01:11:16,445 --> 01:11:18,280
Planned parenthood
and Larry lader
1407
01:11:18,313 --> 01:11:20,982
are running seminars to set up
clinics across the country.
1408
01:11:21,016 --> 01:11:22,616
And not to mention Nathanson.
1409
01:11:22,650 --> 01:11:25,287
Oh. Maybe I should
pay him a visit,
1410
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,654
doctor to doctor.
1411
01:11:26,687 --> 01:11:28,090
Good luck with that.
1412
01:11:28,123 --> 01:11:29,633
They're making too much money
off these clinics.
1413
01:11:29,657 --> 01:11:31,226
Not to mention the illegal ones.
1414
01:11:31,259 --> 01:11:32,828
We have to be willing
to get arrested
1415
01:11:32,861 --> 01:11:34,963
for our beliefs
just like they are.
1416
01:11:34,996 --> 01:11:37,299
Illegal abortion houses,
that's class warfare.
1417
01:11:41,036 --> 01:11:43,271
I'll reach out to the das
across the country.
1418
01:11:44,539 --> 01:11:45,539
What are you thinking?
1419
01:11:47,775 --> 01:11:48,853
Let's see just how many times
1420
01:11:48,877 --> 01:11:50,611
they're really willing
to get arrested.
1421
01:12:01,223 --> 01:12:02,858
Come on. Let's go.
1422
01:12:02,891 --> 01:12:04,593
We had secret abortion clinics
1423
01:12:04,658 --> 01:12:06,261
- across the country,
- get in here.
1424
01:12:06,294 --> 01:12:08,363
For girls
who couldn't get to New York.
1425
01:12:08,396 --> 01:12:11,299
Part of our referral network
consisted of rabbis
1426
01:12:11,333 --> 01:12:14,768
and protestant clergy
that helped set them up.
1427
01:12:14,802 --> 01:12:17,372
Sometimes, we even used
five-star hotels.
1428
01:12:42,531 --> 01:12:43,632
Freeze!
1429
01:12:43,664 --> 01:12:45,666
Hands in the air
where I can see them.
1430
01:12:45,699 --> 01:12:47,499
This is the one.
Right here, guys, right here.
1431
01:12:48,370 --> 01:12:49,371
Chicago pd!
1432
01:12:49,404 --> 01:12:50,472
Put your gun down.
1433
01:12:50,505 --> 01:12:51,840
Hey, watch it!
1434
01:12:51,873 --> 01:12:53,875
Stop right there!
1435
01:12:53,909 --> 01:12:55,676
Where do you think you're going?
1436
01:12:55,709 --> 01:12:58,712
He thinks
he can get out the window.
1437
01:12:58,746 --> 01:13:00,015
Stop what you're doing.
1438
01:13:00,048 --> 01:13:01,016
Can you cuff him, please.
1439
01:13:01,049 --> 01:13:02,517
Hey, stop
what you're doing, pops.
1440
01:13:02,551 --> 01:13:05,220
This is an operating room!
You have no authority here!
1441
01:13:09,958 --> 01:13:11,725
Are you okay?
1442
01:13:17,933 --> 01:13:19,800
Oh, my god.
1443
01:13:29,644 --> 01:13:32,080
The rabbis
and pastors getting arrested
1444
01:13:32,113 --> 01:13:34,449
brought down one of our
biggest referral networks.
1445
01:13:39,921 --> 01:13:41,156
Is everything okay?
1446
01:13:42,756 --> 01:13:45,093
I just hope what we're doing
is making women feel safer.
1447
01:13:48,129 --> 01:13:49,898
You should be so proud.
1448
01:13:49,931 --> 01:13:52,033
A young woman is arguing
1449
01:13:52,067 --> 01:13:55,036
in front of the supreme court
because of you.
1450
01:13:55,070 --> 01:13:56,438
I thought I would have had envy,
1451
01:13:56,471 --> 01:14:02,043
but all I felt after all of it
was proud of Sarah,
1452
01:14:02,077 --> 01:14:04,145
and hope this will open the gate
for women to come.
1453
01:14:07,748 --> 01:14:09,985
One of our clinics
was just busted.
1454
01:14:10,018 --> 01:14:11,720
Ugh.
1455
01:14:11,752 --> 01:14:14,489
Sixteen clergy,
four rabbis, all arrested.
1456
01:14:14,522 --> 01:14:16,291
We have to protect these kids.
1457
01:14:16,324 --> 01:14:18,994
We have to make sure
they have safe doctors.
1458
01:14:19,027 --> 01:14:21,630
These raids can't be setbacks.
1459
01:14:21,663 --> 01:14:25,267
We have to keep working
for abortion on demand.
1460
01:14:25,300 --> 01:14:27,269
It makes us look like
we're in it for the money.
1461
01:14:27,302 --> 01:14:28,303
It's just disgraceful.
1462
01:14:28,336 --> 01:14:30,472
No, quit exaggerating, Bernie.
1463
01:14:30,505 --> 01:14:31,916
You know what it's gonna do
to me and my family
1464
01:14:31,940 --> 01:14:34,609
- and my reputation?
- Oh, this is-this is about you?
1465
01:14:34,643 --> 01:14:36,978
Bernie? Is this about you
and the money?
1466
01:14:37,012 --> 01:14:38,113
It's not about me.
1467
01:14:39,514 --> 01:14:40,715
It's about the girls.
1468
01:14:42,117 --> 01:14:43,351
You're not there.
1469
01:14:43,385 --> 01:14:45,153
Yeah, okay.
Quit exaggerating, Bernie.
1470
01:14:47,122 --> 01:14:49,057
You don't see
all the girls I save.
1471
01:14:58,833 --> 01:15:00,335
I became a physician
1472
01:15:00,368 --> 01:15:02,537
in the tradition
that obliges society
1473
01:15:02,570 --> 01:15:05,140
to expect a doctor
to save lives,
1474
01:15:05,173 --> 01:15:06,675
not kill them.
1475
01:15:06,708 --> 01:15:08,710
There goes your
hippocratic oath.
1476
01:15:08,743 --> 01:15:11,813
Tell that to Nathanson, mother.
1477
01:15:11,846 --> 01:15:17,485
Dr. King said, "we cannot win
if we're willing to sacrifice
1478
01:15:17,519 --> 01:15:19,688
the futures of our children
1479
01:15:19,721 --> 01:15:22,190
for immediate personal
comfort and safety."
1480
01:15:22,223 --> 01:15:24,492
I am not willing to allow
1481
01:15:24,526 --> 01:15:28,063
the concept
of expendable human lives
1482
01:15:28,096 --> 01:15:30,498
to turn this land of ours
1483
01:15:30,532 --> 01:15:33,902
into just another
exclusive reservation,
1484
01:15:33,935 --> 01:15:35,303
where only the planned,
1485
01:15:35,337 --> 01:15:37,539
the privileged, and the perfect
1486
01:15:37,572 --> 01:15:39,007
have the right to live.
1487
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,542
My saying this to you,
1488
01:15:40,575 --> 01:15:42,010
we're free.
1489
01:15:42,043 --> 01:15:44,179
We finally have the right
to decide what we can do
1490
01:15:44,212 --> 01:15:45,513
with our own body.
1491
01:15:45,547 --> 01:15:46,857
All right.
Then, will you please get yours
1492
01:15:46,881 --> 01:15:47,882
into the kitchen.
1493
01:15:49,551 --> 01:15:52,220
- You're just scared.
- I am not scared!
1494
01:15:52,253 --> 01:15:55,223
You are, and it's as simple as
gong to the dentist.
1495
01:15:56,891 --> 01:15:59,894
As simple as
going to the dentist?
1496
01:15:59,928 --> 01:16:05,567
Oh.
I scream, they scream louder.
1497
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,838
We raise money, they raise more.
1498
01:16:08,870 --> 01:16:11,072
They have Hollywood
on their side.
1499
01:16:11,106 --> 01:16:16,911
Dr. Nathanson, I heard he gave
them $10,000 to air that.
1500
01:16:19,247 --> 01:16:22,784
Lewis Powell is from Virginia.
1501
01:16:22,818 --> 01:16:25,186
But like another
great virginian,
1502
01:16:25,220 --> 01:16:29,724
chief justice Marshall,
Lewis Powell is recognized
1503
01:16:29,758 --> 01:16:31,793
by his legal colleagues
throughout the nation
1504
01:16:31,827 --> 01:16:34,629
as being a man
who represents not just.
1505
01:16:34,662 --> 01:16:37,232
Virginia and the south.
1506
01:16:37,265 --> 01:16:41,436
He is first and foremost,
a very great American.
1507
01:16:44,172 --> 01:16:46,107
William rehnquist
1508
01:16:46,141 --> 01:16:48,576
has been outstanding
in every intellectual endeavor
1509
01:16:48,610 --> 01:16:50,612
he has undertaken.
1510
01:16:50,645 --> 01:16:53,081
He was graduated
from Stanford university,
1511
01:16:53,114 --> 01:16:55,717
phi beta kappa, 1948.
1512
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:56,751
He graduated
1513
01:16:56,785 --> 01:16:58,653
first in his class
1514
01:16:58,686 --> 01:17:01,089
from the Stanford university
law school in 1942.
1515
01:17:04,759 --> 01:17:06,119
You missed
the more important news!
1516
01:17:07,195 --> 01:17:08,329
We got the majority.
1517
01:17:09,631 --> 01:17:11,399
We're gonna win.
1518
01:17:11,433 --> 01:17:13,401
The two new
justices were conservatives.
1519
01:17:13,435 --> 01:17:15,136
So, when we go back into court,
1520
01:17:15,170 --> 01:17:18,106
the vote will swing their way
five to four.
1521
01:17:18,139 --> 01:17:19,641
We're gonna lose.
1522
01:17:21,142 --> 01:17:22,377
I wouldn't count on that.
1523
01:17:24,045 --> 01:17:26,781
We still have
a lot of work to do.
1524
01:17:26,816 --> 01:17:32,086
I've tried Nathanson's service.
He won't return my calls.
1525
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:35,123
Have you tried heading over
to planned parenthood?
1526
01:17:35,156 --> 01:17:37,592
I'm not going there
to get lynched.
1527
01:17:37,625 --> 01:17:39,294
I'll just head over
to the hospital.
1528
01:17:40,395 --> 01:17:42,497
Are you going to go
after the clergy?
1529
01:17:42,530 --> 01:17:44,599
I'm gonna go with the industry.
1530
01:17:44,632 --> 01:17:47,368
Robert,
no one sees the industry.
1531
01:17:47,402 --> 01:17:48,536
It's invisible.
1532
01:17:48,570 --> 01:17:50,806
The cause is hopeless
in secular terms.
1533
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:51,883
The effort is only worth it
1534
01:17:51,907 --> 01:17:53,508
if it's part of
a larger enterprise:
1535
01:17:53,541 --> 01:17:55,276
The reconversion of this nation.
1536
01:17:55,310 --> 01:17:56,444
To what?
1537
01:17:56,478 --> 01:17:58,881
Faith in god,
respect for his law.
1538
01:17:58,914 --> 01:18:00,315
That law being?
1539
01:18:00,348 --> 01:18:03,218
Human law, which cannot
tolerate the intentional killing
1540
01:18:03,251 --> 01:18:04,954
of innocent human beings.
1541
01:18:04,986 --> 01:18:06,564
Yeah, but the separation
of church and state
1542
01:18:06,588 --> 01:18:07,857
is in the constitution.
1543
01:18:07,890 --> 01:18:09,791
That's a common misconception.
1544
01:18:09,825 --> 01:18:11,469
The constitution provides
freedom of religion,
1545
01:18:11,493 --> 01:18:12,660
not separation.
1546
01:18:13,995 --> 01:18:16,030
Our laws are based
in god's principle,
1547
01:18:16,064 --> 01:18:17,565
"thou shalt not kill."
1548
01:18:17,599 --> 01:18:21,302
Ellen, you did a great job
organizing this.
1549
01:18:21,336 --> 01:18:22,336
Thank you.
1550
01:18:25,707 --> 01:18:28,543
The ninth amendment isn't
some bottomless pit of rights
1551
01:18:28,576 --> 01:18:32,313
that we can abuse anytime
we find a case confuses us.
1552
01:18:32,347 --> 01:18:34,015
What part of the constitution
1553
01:18:34,048 --> 01:18:38,419
says that a woman does not
have a right to an abortion?
1554
01:18:38,453 --> 01:18:41,556
Freedom to choose - too vague.
Freedom to choose what?
1555
01:18:41,589 --> 01:18:43,057
Prove medically
and scientifically
1556
01:18:43,091 --> 01:18:46,094
that a new fetus is a-a someone.
1557
01:18:46,127 --> 01:18:48,696
Even the doctors say
there is human life.
1558
01:18:48,730 --> 01:18:51,065
Human life from
the moment of conception,
1559
01:18:51,099 --> 01:18:52,767
in the embryonic state.
1560
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,838
Yeah, look.
You're new to the court,
1561
01:18:55,871 --> 01:18:58,874
and Mrs. Weddington presents
a thought-out argument
1562
01:18:58,908 --> 01:19:00,943
for women's rights.
1563
01:19:00,976 --> 01:19:03,044
You've been watching
too much TV.
1564
01:19:03,077 --> 01:19:06,214
This case has nothing to do
with women's rights.
1565
01:19:06,247 --> 01:19:07,615
Does a woman, a mother,
1566
01:19:07,649 --> 01:19:12,086
have the right to kill
her own child?
1567
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:13,923
I'll argue that case separately.
1568
01:19:13,956 --> 01:19:15,925
It's not her child, just yet.
1569
01:19:15,958 --> 01:19:17,292
Whose child is it?
1570
01:19:17,325 --> 01:19:18,894
The mother's? Father's?
The state's?
1571
01:19:20,428 --> 01:19:23,032
You've only just been appointed,
1572
01:19:23,064 --> 01:19:25,733
and already you're playing into
the hands of public opinion.
1573
01:19:27,168 --> 01:19:30,438
Byron, get off your high horse
1574
01:19:30,471 --> 01:19:32,841
and make a constitutional
decision.
1575
01:19:35,276 --> 01:19:37,745
I am making
a constitutional decision.
1576
01:19:39,982 --> 01:19:41,817
She stated on several occasions
1577
01:19:41,850 --> 01:19:43,886
that they are dismissing
the hippocratic oath,
1578
01:19:43,919 --> 01:19:45,320
the very oath
1579
01:19:47,088 --> 01:19:50,258
that says doctors
need to protect life.
1580
01:19:50,291 --> 01:19:53,294
It also states very clearly
1581
01:19:53,328 --> 01:19:57,432
that a woman should not be given
an abortive remedy.
1582
01:19:57,465 --> 01:19:59,634
That's what you're basing
your decision on,
1583
01:19:59,667 --> 01:20:00,768
the hippocratic oath.
1584
01:20:02,337 --> 01:20:03,771
It's not 400 b.C.
1585
01:20:05,340 --> 01:20:08,443
The 1948 declaration of Geneva
1586
01:20:08,476 --> 01:20:12,580
as well as the international
code of medical ethics
1587
01:20:12,614 --> 01:20:19,187
both clearly state
that doctors must protect life.
1588
01:20:19,220 --> 01:20:21,623
From the point of conception.
1589
01:20:21,656 --> 01:20:24,626
May I remind you, sir,
1590
01:20:24,659 --> 01:20:27,428
you're on the United States
supreme court,
1591
01:20:27,462 --> 01:20:29,664
not on an international
medical board.
1592
01:20:31,532 --> 01:20:35,971
We have an opportunity here
to make things right.
1593
01:20:36,005 --> 01:20:39,540
We have an opportunity here
to get things right.
1594
01:20:39,574 --> 01:20:42,210
I fear if we vote in favor of
1595
01:20:42,243 --> 01:20:44,113
removing the rights
of the fetus,
1596
01:20:44,145 --> 01:20:47,649
that we are simply
blowing this whole thing.
1597
01:20:47,682 --> 01:20:51,619
Hm-mm.
Roe isn't about right or wrong.
1598
01:20:51,653 --> 01:20:53,621
It's about what's stated
in the law.
1599
01:20:53,655 --> 01:20:59,227
All due respect, justice,
if you don't realize that,
1600
01:20:59,260 --> 01:21:03,364
you shouldn't be on the court.
Hm?
1601
01:21:03,398 --> 01:21:07,335
Church and state are separate
for a reason.
1602
01:21:07,368 --> 01:21:09,203
It's god's duty to forgive.
1603
01:21:11,539 --> 01:21:14,843
It's ours to rule the law.
1604
01:21:14,877 --> 01:21:21,850
This has nothing whatsoever
to do with church and state.
1605
01:21:21,884 --> 01:21:24,552
This is strictly
a constitutional matter,
1606
01:21:26,254 --> 01:21:28,957
life and Liberty.
1607
01:21:30,591 --> 01:21:31,793
Or have you forgotten that?
1608
01:21:35,596 --> 01:21:36,865
Justice?
1609
01:21:42,037 --> 01:21:44,173
Wade got Robert flowers
to argue.
1610
01:21:44,205 --> 01:21:46,085
He was handpicked
by the Texas Attorney General.
1611
01:21:47,642 --> 01:21:49,111
How you boys and gals doing?
1612
01:21:50,611 --> 01:21:53,581
Have you seen how the whole
media supports weddington?
1613
01:21:53,614 --> 01:21:55,583
Well, we better
get to work then.
1614
01:21:55,616 --> 01:21:58,619
I created a moot court
based on griswald and vuitch.
1615
01:21:58,653 --> 01:22:01,422
We can set up and start
to fire questions.
1616
01:22:01,456 --> 01:22:02,858
My boys don't need schooling
1617
01:22:02,891 --> 01:22:05,793
by a bunch of kids
from New York City.
1618
01:22:05,828 --> 01:22:06,794
It's going to be
you and your boys
1619
01:22:06,829 --> 01:22:08,197
versus the whole country.
1620
01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:11,200
Well, don't tell me,
I know the law!
1621
01:22:11,232 --> 01:22:13,267
I know you do. I'm worried.
1622
01:22:15,104 --> 01:22:16,580
"The greatest act of faith
is when a man understands
1623
01:22:16,604 --> 01:22:18,140
that he is not god."
1624
01:22:18,173 --> 01:22:20,109
Oliver Wendell Holmes.
1625
01:22:20,142 --> 01:22:22,410
It might be a good idea, Henry.
1626
01:22:22,443 --> 01:22:23,511
I'm listening.
1627
01:22:26,014 --> 01:22:27,214
What else you got for us, Bob?
1628
01:22:28,750 --> 01:22:30,718
I filed with the court
to become guardian ad litem
1629
01:22:30,752 --> 01:22:32,596
to all the unborn children
in the state of New York.
1630
01:22:32,620 --> 01:22:34,823
How'd you manage that?
1631
01:22:34,857 --> 01:22:36,300
The unborn has rights
in the area of the law
1632
01:22:36,324 --> 01:22:38,127
from probate to criminal.
1633
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,504
In the constitution, a person
cannot be deprived due process
1634
01:22:40,528 --> 01:22:42,497
or denied equal protection.
1635
01:22:42,530 --> 01:22:44,398
- Okay.
- So, the unborn have a right
1636
01:22:44,432 --> 01:22:47,002
to an attorney just like
everybody else in america?
1637
01:22:48,603 --> 01:22:50,072
It's brilliant!
1638
01:22:50,105 --> 01:22:52,074
Larry, you convinced me
to open a clinic,
1639
01:22:52,107 --> 01:22:54,143
abortion is illegal again
in New York.
1640
01:22:54,176 --> 01:22:55,777
What are you talking about?
1641
01:22:55,811 --> 01:22:58,279
I'm gonna lose everything
to that guardian of the unborn.
1642
01:22:58,312 --> 01:22:59,447
I wouldn't worry about it.
1643
01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:00,414
Guardian of the unborn,
1644
01:23:00,448 --> 01:23:01,950
it sounds like a superhero.
1645
01:23:01,984 --> 01:23:02,918
How can the catholics
1646
01:23:02,951 --> 01:23:04,786
use the court to make a law?
1647
01:23:04,820 --> 01:23:07,089
Well, isn't
that what we're going to do?
1648
01:23:07,122 --> 01:23:08,790
You boys are
only in favor of abortion
1649
01:23:08,824 --> 01:23:11,559
because it's cheaper
than child support.
1650
01:23:13,829 --> 01:23:15,130
Equality!
1651
01:23:15,164 --> 01:23:16,265
Let's not forget,
1652
01:23:16,297 --> 01:23:17,674
this is also about
population control.
1653
01:23:17,698 --> 01:23:19,667
This is about women's rights.
1654
01:23:20,969 --> 01:23:23,638
You're still in love
with Margaret sanger!
1655
01:23:23,671 --> 01:23:24,973
What are you talking about?
1656
01:23:25,007 --> 01:23:28,476
She opposed abortion.
I read her autobiography.
1657
01:23:28,509 --> 01:23:30,879
Oh, the founder of planned
parenthood opposed abortion?
1658
01:23:30,913 --> 01:23:32,446
She'd be for it today.
1659
01:23:32,480 --> 01:23:35,316
She said it was a disgrace
to our civilization.
1660
01:23:35,349 --> 01:23:37,628
Quote, "there should be no
killing of babies in the womb,"
1661
01:23:37,652 --> 01:23:39,353
end quote.
1662
01:23:39,387 --> 01:23:40,856
I founded this movement.
1663
01:23:40,889 --> 01:23:42,557
- This is about you?
- Yeah!
1664
01:23:42,590 --> 01:23:45,027
This is about
the state of Larry lader?
1665
01:23:45,060 --> 01:23:47,029
Look around you.
1666
01:23:47,062 --> 01:23:49,965
Who do you think is winning
your dirty little secret war?
1667
01:23:49,998 --> 01:23:53,235
I am looking.
Look what I've created.
1668
01:23:53,268 --> 01:23:54,545
Planned parenthood
and half the doctors
1669
01:23:54,569 --> 01:23:56,004
pay you referral fees.
1670
01:23:56,038 --> 01:23:58,874
And you have the women
of the world to thank for that!
1671
01:24:00,175 --> 01:24:02,015
And how much you getting
from your clinic, doc?
1672
01:24:04,612 --> 01:24:05,881
Equality!
1673
01:24:17,125 --> 01:24:18,325
You haven't touched your food.
1674
01:24:19,627 --> 01:24:20,627
Hm?
1675
01:24:22,030 --> 01:24:26,734
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's this damn case.
1676
01:24:26,767 --> 01:24:28,937
Well, which way are you
leaning towards, dad?
1677
01:24:28,971 --> 01:24:31,240
I'm not gonna
get into any of that.
1678
01:24:31,273 --> 01:24:32,573
Good try.
1679
01:24:32,607 --> 01:24:34,442
Sally's volunteering
at planned parenthood.
1680
01:24:34,475 --> 01:24:36,345
Stop changing the subject.
1681
01:24:36,377 --> 01:24:39,281
Oh, planned parenthood, that's-
that's great, sweetheart.
1682
01:24:39,314 --> 01:24:41,016
Now, that's the second justice
1683
01:24:41,049 --> 01:24:44,086
with a family member
working for planned parenthood.
1684
01:24:44,119 --> 01:24:47,890
First Stewart's wife,
and now blackmun's daughter.
1685
01:24:47,923 --> 01:24:49,057
Hm.
1686
01:24:49,091 --> 01:24:50,959
You know,
it's not only about abortion.
1687
01:24:52,127 --> 01:24:53,295
Did you see 20,000 women
1688
01:24:53,328 --> 01:24:55,063
marching for equality
in New York?
1689
01:24:56,564 --> 01:24:58,367
Twenty thousand, is that right?
1690
01:24:58,399 --> 01:25:00,269
It's about time
we had our own rights.
1691
01:25:03,338 --> 01:25:06,041
Do you want your daughter to be
able to become justice one day?
1692
01:25:06,074 --> 01:25:07,175
Why...
1693
01:25:08,643 --> 01:25:10,544
So you're saying
1694
01:25:10,578 --> 01:25:13,949
if I vote the other way,
I'm voting against women?
1695
01:25:13,982 --> 01:25:16,550
Yes, you are.
1696
01:25:16,584 --> 01:25:19,754
Just listen to her, dad.
Come on, it's important.
1697
01:25:19,787 --> 01:25:21,156
I'm with the girls.
1698
01:25:23,825 --> 01:25:25,193
Make us proud, Harry.
1699
01:25:34,468 --> 01:25:35,603
I know why you gave me this
1700
01:25:35,636 --> 01:25:37,973
but you should've let
Douglas write it.
1701
01:25:38,006 --> 01:25:40,675
After my vote hit the media,
1702
01:25:40,708 --> 01:25:43,312
my family
almost fell apart over it.
1703
01:25:43,345 --> 01:25:45,579
So, you might be
changing your vote
1704
01:25:45,613 --> 01:25:48,549
because your family found out?
Or was it the media?
1705
01:25:52,054 --> 01:25:53,054
Warren.
1706
01:25:57,192 --> 01:25:59,460
You wanted to talk.
1707
01:25:59,493 --> 01:26:00,494
Yes, I did.
1708
01:26:01,729 --> 01:26:03,531
I wanna see
where you stand, Harry.
1709
01:26:03,564 --> 01:26:06,268
I'm hoping
we're on the same page.
1710
01:26:06,301 --> 01:26:07,768
Byron, I don't know
what page I'm on.
1711
01:26:07,802 --> 01:26:10,172
I'm not even sure we're
reading from the same book.
1712
01:26:10,205 --> 01:26:13,875
I just-I'm trying to vote along
the lines of the constitution.
1713
01:26:13,909 --> 01:26:16,011
Does the bill of rights
allow a woman
1714
01:26:16,044 --> 01:26:18,347
to kill her unborn child?
1715
01:26:18,380 --> 01:26:19,680
It's a very simple question.
1716
01:26:19,714 --> 01:26:21,049
No, it's not a simple question.
1717
01:26:21,083 --> 01:26:24,219
The question is,
when does a fetus become a life?
1718
01:26:24,252 --> 01:26:26,455
At the point of conception,
Harry. When else?
1719
01:26:26,487 --> 01:26:29,458
Well, that hasn't been
determined yet, has it?
1720
01:26:29,490 --> 01:26:32,828
And if it had, we wouldn't be
having this conflict
1721
01:26:32,861 --> 01:26:34,229
in our conversation.
1722
01:26:34,262 --> 01:26:36,207
Sure, bill. Why don't you
just sit down and join us.
1723
01:26:36,231 --> 01:26:38,566
What we need to discuss
is the right to privacy.
1724
01:26:38,599 --> 01:26:40,202
What?
1725
01:26:40,235 --> 01:26:42,237
Listen, our job is to
interpret the constitution.
1726
01:26:42,270 --> 01:26:44,039
Our job is not to create law.
1727
01:26:44,072 --> 01:26:46,475
If you wanna make a new law,
you take it up with congress.
1728
01:26:46,507 --> 01:26:49,011
We already ruled on that.
Griswold v. Connecticut.
1729
01:26:49,044 --> 01:26:50,412
- Unrelated.
- Absolutely.
1730
01:26:50,445 --> 01:26:51,980
- Unrelated.
- Absolutely.
1731
01:26:52,014 --> 01:26:53,248
He-he's right.
1732
01:26:53,281 --> 01:26:55,350
Right to privacy between
a patient and a doctor.
1733
01:26:56,885 --> 01:27:00,022
At minimum, Byron,
it's something I think
1734
01:27:00,055 --> 01:27:02,590
we should at least consider.
1735
01:27:02,623 --> 01:27:04,826
You take this
into consideration, Harry,
1736
01:27:04,860 --> 01:27:07,929
you take the risk
of embarrassing this court
1737
01:27:07,963 --> 01:27:09,563
and putting it to a level
it has not been
1738
01:27:09,597 --> 01:27:11,242
- since the dred Scott decision.
- Oh, come on.
1739
01:27:11,266 --> 01:27:13,435
Come on, bill.
So, you wanna enslave women
1740
01:27:13,468 --> 01:27:14,846
by denying them
their right to privacy.
1741
01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:15,937
Is that it, Byron?
1742
01:27:15,971 --> 01:27:16,938
That is not what I said.
1743
01:27:16,972 --> 01:27:18,249
Well, that's what
you're implying.
1744
01:27:18,273 --> 01:27:19,450
No, it is not what I'm implying.
1745
01:27:19,474 --> 01:27:21,443
Wait, guys, guys.
Stop being so dramatic.
1746
01:27:21,476 --> 01:27:24,012
And you, you're starting to
sound like one of Nixon's boys.
1747
01:27:24,046 --> 01:27:26,747
Don't forget it was jfk
that appointed you.
1748
01:27:26,781 --> 01:27:27,959
Yes, and it was Kennedy
that thought
1749
01:27:27,983 --> 01:27:30,919
abortion was repugnant
to all Americans.
1750
01:27:37,959 --> 01:27:39,227
Here we go again, boys.
1751
01:27:47,768 --> 01:27:49,804
Certainly,
we cannot say that there is
1752
01:27:49,838 --> 01:27:55,077
in the constitution so stated
the right to an abortion.
1753
01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:57,879
But neither is there stated
the right to travel
1754
01:27:57,913 --> 01:28:01,216
or some other basic rights
that this court has held
1755
01:28:01,249 --> 01:28:04,585
are under the United States
constitution.
1756
01:28:04,618 --> 01:28:06,497
I suppose that one of
the most important factors
1757
01:28:06,521 --> 01:28:09,291
to consider is,
what rights, if any,
1758
01:28:09,324 --> 01:28:11,226
does the unborn fetus have.
1759
01:28:11,259 --> 01:28:12,461
That is correct.
1760
01:28:12,494 --> 01:28:13,661
I have a question.
1761
01:28:13,694 --> 01:28:15,964
Is it critical to your case
that the fetus
1762
01:28:15,997 --> 01:28:20,001
not be considered a person
under the due process clause?
1763
01:28:20,035 --> 01:28:21,602
It seems to me
that it is critical
1764
01:28:21,635 --> 01:28:24,806
that we prove that this is
a fundamental interest
1765
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,740
on behalf of women.
1766
01:28:26,774 --> 01:28:29,478
That it is a constitutional
right, second...
1767
01:28:29,511 --> 01:28:34,615
Well, would you lose your case
if the fetus were a person?
1768
01:28:34,648 --> 01:28:36,650
Then you would have
a balancing of interests.
1769
01:28:38,453 --> 01:28:39,955
You're already
going to be balancing
1770
01:28:39,988 --> 01:28:41,789
the interest of the mother
1771
01:28:41,823 --> 01:28:44,692
against the interest
of the fetus.
1772
01:28:44,725 --> 01:28:46,428
That is correct, your honor.
1773
01:28:46,461 --> 01:28:48,597
If it were established
that the unborn fetus
1774
01:28:48,629 --> 01:28:50,664
is protected
under the constitution,
1775
01:28:50,698 --> 01:28:53,168
you would have an impossible
case, Mrs. Weddington.
1776
01:28:54,970 --> 01:28:57,339
I would have
a very difficult case.
1777
01:29:01,009 --> 01:29:02,310
It's impossible for me to trace,
1778
01:29:02,344 --> 01:29:03,845
within my allocated time,
1779
01:29:03,879 --> 01:29:08,016
the development of a fetus
from the date of its conception
1780
01:29:08,049 --> 01:29:09,683
to the date of its birth.
1781
01:29:09,717 --> 01:29:11,719
But it's the position
of the state of Texas
1782
01:29:11,752 --> 01:29:13,155
that upon conception,
1783
01:29:13,188 --> 01:29:16,558
we have a human being.
1784
01:29:16,591 --> 01:29:19,161
A person with the concept
1785
01:29:19,194 --> 01:29:21,729
of the constitution
of the United States
1786
01:29:21,762 --> 01:29:23,697
and that of Texas as well.
1787
01:29:23,731 --> 01:29:27,202
Any person born or naturalized
in the United States hasn't.
1788
01:29:28,669 --> 01:29:31,739
No, that's not the definition
of a person,
1789
01:29:31,772 --> 01:29:33,341
that's the definition
of a citizen.
1790
01:29:33,375 --> 01:29:34,409
It's so fundamental
1791
01:29:34,442 --> 01:29:36,077
that the framers
of the constitution
1792
01:29:36,111 --> 01:29:39,147
had not even set out
to define it.
1793
01:29:39,181 --> 01:29:43,318
And even blackstone
was quoted in 1765,
1794
01:29:43,351 --> 01:29:46,655
"this right is inherent
in every individual
1795
01:29:46,687 --> 01:29:50,258
and exists even before
the child is born."
1796
01:29:50,292 --> 01:29:52,726
Is it not true
1797
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:56,932
or is it that the,
medical profession itself
1798
01:29:56,965 --> 01:30:00,268
is not in agreement
as to when life begins?
1799
01:30:00,302 --> 01:30:03,371
Medically speaking, we would
say that from the chromosomes,
1800
01:30:03,405 --> 01:30:06,208
every potential of anybody
here in this room
1801
01:30:06,241 --> 01:30:08,709
is present at the moment
of conception.
1802
01:30:08,742 --> 01:30:12,380
Right. So, what you're speaking
about is a potential life.
1803
01:30:12,414 --> 01:30:13,582
Yes, sir.
1804
01:30:13,615 --> 01:30:16,851
With which
everyone can agree on.
1805
01:30:16,885 --> 01:30:17,885
Just one moment.
1806
01:30:19,988 --> 01:30:24,859
If you're correct
that the fetus is a person,
1807
01:30:24,893 --> 01:30:27,963
then I suppose the state
would have a great trouble
1808
01:30:27,996 --> 01:30:30,966
permitting an abortion,
wouldn't it?
1809
01:30:30,999 --> 01:30:34,903
This court has been diligent
1810
01:30:34,936 --> 01:30:39,374
in protecting
the rights of minorities.
1811
01:30:39,407 --> 01:30:47,407
And gentlemen, we say
this is a minority,
1812
01:30:49,818 --> 01:30:51,453
a silent minority,
1813
01:30:54,022 --> 01:30:58,593
the true silent minority.
1814
01:31:03,198 --> 01:31:05,533
Who is speaking
for these children?
1815
01:31:08,536 --> 01:31:12,374
Who is counsel
for these children?
1816
01:31:14,376 --> 01:31:16,845
These unborn children,
1817
01:31:20,382 --> 01:31:23,351
whose lives are being taken.
1818
01:31:27,689 --> 01:31:29,557
Where is the safeguard
1819
01:31:31,693 --> 01:31:34,863
of a trial by jury?
1820
01:31:40,201 --> 01:31:42,103
For roe?
1821
01:31:42,137 --> 01:31:44,839
From the CBS
news headquarters in New York,
1822
01:31:44,873 --> 01:31:47,208
this is the CBS evening news
1823
01:31:47,242 --> 01:31:50,712
with Walter cronkite
and Eric sevareid in New York,
1824
01:31:50,745 --> 01:31:52,647
George hermann in Washington,
1825
01:31:52,681 --> 01:31:56,518
Leslie stahl in Washington,
Fred p. Graham in Atlanta,
1826
01:31:56,551 --> 01:32:00,188
Peter calisher in Paris,
Tom fenton in Paris,
1827
01:32:00,221 --> 01:32:02,357
Robert schakne in des moines.
1828
01:32:02,390 --> 01:32:05,860
And tonight, a CBS evening news
special report,
1829
01:32:05,894 --> 01:32:07,729
"the energy crisis."
1830
01:32:27,415 --> 01:32:28,316
Good evening.
1831
01:32:28,350 --> 01:32:29,651
In a landmark ruling,
1832
01:32:29,684 --> 01:32:33,188
the supreme court today
legalized abortions.
1833
01:32:33,221 --> 01:32:35,323
The majority in cases
for Texas and Georgia
1834
01:32:35,357 --> 01:32:37,726
said that the decision
to end a pregnancy
1835
01:32:37,759 --> 01:32:40,495
during the first three months
belongs to the woman
1836
01:32:40,528 --> 01:32:42,464
and her doctor,
not the government.
1837
01:32:51,606 --> 01:32:54,909
The roe decision allows a woman
to have an abortion at any time,
1838
01:32:54,943 --> 01:32:56,945
not just the first three months.
1839
01:32:56,978 --> 01:32:58,498
Cronkite and the media
lied about that.
1840
01:33:00,482 --> 01:33:03,284
But they said it doesn't have
the same rights as a person.
1841
01:33:03,318 --> 01:33:05,687
Let me ask you,
if you found out today
1842
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,089
that you were pregnant
and I killed you,
1843
01:33:08,123 --> 01:33:10,558
should I go to jail for
murdering one person or two?
1844
01:33:11,926 --> 01:33:12,961
Uh...
1845
01:33:14,596 --> 01:33:18,066
Most states would consider it
a double homicide,
1846
01:33:18,099 --> 01:33:20,735
hence considering
the unborn a person.
1847
01:33:22,303 --> 01:33:25,306
With that logic, why isn't
abortion considered homicide?
1848
01:33:25,340 --> 01:33:27,375
The supreme court
allowed the Sierra club
1849
01:33:27,409 --> 01:33:28,811
to sue
the Walt Disney mineral park
1850
01:33:28,844 --> 01:33:31,079
on behalf of inanimate objects.
1851
01:33:31,112 --> 01:33:33,248
Justice Douglas argued
1852
01:33:33,281 --> 01:33:35,750
that trees should be
granted personhood,
1853
01:33:35,784 --> 01:33:38,987
that rivers, lakes,
and even pupfish have rights.
1854
01:33:43,091 --> 01:33:44,836
Somebody read me
the constitutional amendment
1855
01:33:44,860 --> 01:33:47,830
that states that we have the
right to kill an unborn child.
1856
01:33:47,863 --> 01:33:48,963
Sir,
1857
01:33:48,997 --> 01:33:51,366
it was just voted seven to two.
1858
01:33:52,934 --> 01:33:54,478
The justices replaced
the framers' choices
1859
01:33:54,502 --> 01:33:56,471
for personal predilections.
1860
01:33:58,039 --> 01:34:00,008
But we have a right to privacy.
1861
01:34:01,476 --> 01:34:02,653
Where in the constitution
does it state
1862
01:34:02,677 --> 01:34:03,677
that we have that right?
1863
01:34:08,216 --> 01:34:10,618
It doesn't, and even if we did,
1864
01:34:10,652 --> 01:34:12,654
privacy is not
an absolute right,
1865
01:34:12,687 --> 01:34:15,690
so it can always be governed
by other rights.
1866
01:34:15,723 --> 01:34:19,294
But the right to choose
is more important than a fetus.
1867
01:34:19,327 --> 01:34:21,095
Why would you say that?
1868
01:34:21,129 --> 01:34:23,364
A fetus is not a person,
and I am.
1869
01:34:26,401 --> 01:34:27,969
So, what does a fetus become?
1870
01:34:32,073 --> 01:34:34,342
A fetus has the DNA of a person.
1871
01:34:34,375 --> 01:34:36,010
It's created by people.
1872
01:34:36,044 --> 01:34:40,482
Left to nature,
that fetus becomes a person.
1873
01:34:42,083 --> 01:34:43,886
Dr. Taylor,
call the operator, please.
1874
01:34:43,919 --> 01:34:45,855
Dr. Taylor, call the operator.
1875
01:34:47,422 --> 01:34:48,756
Dr. Nathanson?
1876
01:34:50,325 --> 01:34:51,659
I'm sorry. Can I help you?
1877
01:34:51,693 --> 01:34:53,661
A butchery.
1878
01:34:53,695 --> 01:34:55,697
Excuse me?
1879
01:34:55,730 --> 01:34:59,000
You know
that even a safe abortion
1880
01:34:59,033 --> 01:35:01,703
can make a woman sterile.
1881
01:35:01,736 --> 01:35:02,905
Mildred Jefferson, right?
1882
01:35:02,938 --> 01:35:05,673
Dr. Mildred Jefferson.
1883
01:35:05,707 --> 01:35:07,242
Are you lost?
1884
01:35:07,275 --> 01:35:08,309
Yes.
1885
01:35:08,343 --> 01:35:11,179
Yes. Actually, I am. Very.
1886
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,416
How do you do what you do,
and live in good conscience?
1887
01:35:15,450 --> 01:35:16,551
I have given abortions
1888
01:35:16,584 --> 01:35:17,920
to my friends,
1889
01:35:17,953 --> 01:35:20,421
my colleagues, even my teachers.
1890
01:35:20,455 --> 01:35:22,423
I've never had
a shred of self-doubt.
1891
01:35:22,457 --> 01:35:24,559
And I've never wavered.
1892
01:35:24,592 --> 01:35:26,561
So, you feel nothing?
1893
01:35:26,594 --> 01:35:30,532
Just a sense of accomplishment
and pride of expertise.
1894
01:35:30,565 --> 01:35:31,901
You see.
1895
01:35:33,635 --> 01:35:38,506
When my girlfriend got pregnant
and I couldn't afford to have
1896
01:35:38,540 --> 01:35:42,577
a child, I not only demanded
1897
01:35:42,610 --> 01:35:46,916
that she terminate the pregnancy
but I also informed her,
1898
01:35:46,949 --> 01:35:50,351
since I was the most skilled
practitioner of the art,
1899
01:35:50,385 --> 01:35:53,254
I myself would do the abortion.
1900
01:35:53,288 --> 01:35:54,756
And I did.
1901
01:35:58,426 --> 01:36:00,161
Are you sure you wanna do this?
1902
01:36:07,802 --> 01:36:08,971
Doctor...
1903
01:36:09,004 --> 01:36:11,472
If you don't wanna be here,
you can leave.
1904
01:36:34,128 --> 01:36:35,831
On your own child?
1905
01:36:48,176 --> 01:36:49,845
I mean, why do you give life
1906
01:36:49,878 --> 01:36:52,580
to those with no future?
1907
01:36:52,614 --> 01:36:56,117
Aren't you tired
of creating new souls
1908
01:36:56,150 --> 01:36:58,954
that end up with no purpose?
1909
01:36:58,988 --> 01:37:01,991
I mean,
you must be bored, right?
1910
01:37:02,024 --> 01:37:02,992
Or are you just like
1911
01:37:03,025 --> 01:37:04,192
playing games?
1912
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,161
I've killed babies
1913
01:37:07,195 --> 01:37:09,497
for the greater good.
1914
01:37:09,530 --> 01:37:12,868
I've killed babies
in the name of saving women.
1915
01:37:14,702 --> 01:37:18,206
And I've killed babies
because they were unwanted.
1916
01:37:19,474 --> 01:37:20,809
You're a liar!
1917
01:37:20,843 --> 01:37:23,511
You did this,
you led me down this path.
1918
01:37:23,544 --> 01:37:24,847
You didn't want them.
1919
01:37:26,015 --> 01:37:27,248
That's the truth.
1920
01:37:29,985 --> 01:37:31,386
Because you wanna know why?
1921
01:37:31,419 --> 01:37:34,422
I'm not the one who's supposed
to be perfect, you are.
1922
01:37:36,524 --> 01:37:41,796
But I have done my best.
I have worked my hardest.
1923
01:37:41,830 --> 01:37:44,265
I have served humanity.
You've watched me.
1924
01:37:45,366 --> 01:37:46,367
Hm?
1925
01:37:50,438 --> 01:37:52,540
Maybe you're just willing
but not able.
1926
01:37:54,877 --> 01:37:56,945
And so you're just
not omnipotent.
1927
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:02,084
Or, are you able
and not willing and malevolent?
1928
01:38:04,953 --> 01:38:07,388
I don't think it's either.
1929
01:38:07,422 --> 01:38:13,461
The truth is, you are
neither willing nor able.
1930
01:38:14,762 --> 01:38:16,597
So, why do I need to
call you god?
1931
01:38:28,443 --> 01:38:30,913
Have you seen these
new high-tech ultrasounds?
1932
01:38:30,946 --> 01:38:32,413
In the '70s before roe,
1933
01:38:32,447 --> 01:38:34,749
no one had this technology.
1934
01:38:34,782 --> 01:38:37,585
Not I, not the courts.
1935
01:38:37,618 --> 01:38:41,456
This would change everything,
especially for me.
1936
01:38:41,489 --> 01:38:43,926
No, but I hear
the new imaging is great.
1937
01:38:43,959 --> 01:38:45,793
You know what,
it helps a lot with accuracy.
1938
01:38:45,828 --> 01:38:47,129
Let's go try it out.
1939
01:39:25,834 --> 01:39:27,102
Are you okay?
1940
01:39:37,612 --> 01:39:39,313
It is a person.
1941
01:39:42,151 --> 01:39:44,119
It's a person.
1942
01:39:49,624 --> 01:39:52,961
God, forgive me.
What have I done?
1943
01:39:54,495 --> 01:39:57,331
I-I'm so sorry, god.
1944
01:39:57,365 --> 01:39:59,333
I'm so sorry.
1945
01:39:59,367 --> 01:40:02,204
Please, I want her back.
1946
01:40:04,907 --> 01:40:07,209
I killed my own daughter.
1947
01:40:23,324 --> 01:40:25,961
Doctor.
Phil mccombs, Washington post.
1948
01:40:25,994 --> 01:40:26,962
Thank you. Good to see you.
1949
01:40:26,995 --> 01:40:28,195
Thank you for taking the time.
1950
01:40:37,940 --> 01:40:41,709
So, when you take them out,
you don't see anything?
1951
01:40:44,246 --> 01:40:45,580
No, you don't see anything.
1952
01:40:47,381 --> 01:40:48,817
I-i-i mean,
1953
01:40:48,851 --> 01:40:51,352
of all the thousands
of second trimester abortions
1954
01:40:51,385 --> 01:40:53,688
that I've done, I mean,
maybe I've seen
1955
01:40:53,721 --> 01:40:55,690
half a dozen.
1956
01:40:55,723 --> 01:40:58,026
But didn't it bother you
when you did?
1957
01:40:58,060 --> 01:41:00,361
No, not particularly.
It was the end product,
1958
01:41:00,394 --> 01:41:02,563
a lifeless limp thing
lying there.
1959
01:41:02,597 --> 01:41:05,399
They have a human form.
1960
01:41:05,433 --> 01:41:06,869
Oh, absolutely.
1961
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:14,142
I-I-I'm sorry.
I'm a little bit confused.
1962
01:41:17,778 --> 01:41:21,616
First you said,
"all you see is bloody meat."
1963
01:41:21,649 --> 01:41:23,784
Hm-mm.
1964
01:41:23,819 --> 01:41:28,023
But now you're saying
you always knew it was a person.
1965
01:41:28,056 --> 01:41:29,056
So doctor,
1966
01:41:31,459 --> 01:41:32,593
which one is it?
1967
01:41:58,419 --> 01:41:59,453
I knew all along.
1968
01:42:02,257 --> 01:42:03,791
Life exists at conception.
1969
01:42:06,094 --> 01:42:09,331
I mean, I'd taken part
in over 70,000 abortions.
1970
01:42:09,364 --> 01:42:12,401
I'd seen other sonograms.
1971
01:42:12,433 --> 01:42:15,770
I knew in my heart
what I was doing was wrong.
1972
01:42:15,803 --> 01:42:16,972
And I lied.
1973
01:42:20,142 --> 01:42:22,244
I lied to the world.
I lied to god.
1974
01:42:22,277 --> 01:42:24,712
More importantly. I lied to me.
1975
01:42:26,848 --> 01:42:28,350
But I kept on killing.
1976
01:42:29,985 --> 01:42:32,154
Until I had the courage
to face the reality
1977
01:42:32,187 --> 01:42:34,156
of the absolute horror
of what I was doing.
1978
01:42:39,394 --> 01:42:41,129
I had been an atheist,
1979
01:42:41,163 --> 01:42:44,665
so my opinions on abortion
were not influenced by religion.
1980
01:42:44,699 --> 01:42:48,236
And when life gave me more than
I could stand, I chose to kneel.
1981
01:43:35,951 --> 01:43:39,888
โช There's a fortune
in abortion โช
1982
01:43:39,921 --> 01:43:43,325
โช Just a twist of the wrist
and you're through โช
1983
01:43:43,358 --> 01:43:44,426
Oooh!
1984
01:43:44,459 --> 01:43:48,562
โช The population of the nation โช
1985
01:43:48,596 --> 01:43:52,334
โช Won't grow
if it's left up to you โช
1986
01:43:52,367 --> 01:43:56,872
โช There's a fortune
in abortion โช
1987
01:43:56,905 --> 01:44:00,942
โช There's a gold mine
in the sex line โช
1988
01:44:00,976 --> 01:44:05,713
โช Only rabbits
have those habits โช
1989
01:44:05,746 --> 01:44:10,452
โช Oh, there's a fortune
in abortion โช
1990
01:44:10,485 --> 01:44:15,589
โช You never bother
the future father โช
1991
01:44:15,623 --> 01:44:20,362
The mass of negroes,
particularly in the south,
1992
01:44:20,395 --> 01:44:24,966
still breed carelessly
and disastrously.
1993
01:44:27,135 --> 01:44:30,906
The result that the increase
among negroes,
1994
01:44:30,939 --> 01:44:33,308
more than among whites,
1995
01:44:33,341 --> 01:44:36,111
is that portion
of the population
1996
01:44:36,144 --> 01:44:39,514
least intelligent and fit.
1997
01:44:41,016 --> 01:44:42,226
In our country,
there's been one group
1998
01:44:42,250 --> 01:44:44,886
associated with
reactionary politics,
1999
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,390
behind-the-scenes manipulations,
and backward ideas.
2000
01:44:48,423 --> 01:44:49,790
Wait, not the catholics again?
2001
01:44:49,825 --> 01:44:51,460
Of course, the catholics.
2002
01:44:51,493 --> 01:44:53,228
Catholic
and fundamentalist churches
2003
01:44:53,261 --> 01:44:55,430
have constantly
violated the law.
2004
01:44:55,464 --> 01:44:59,901
Violations which breach the wall
separating the church and state.
2005
01:44:59,935 --> 01:45:01,903
The justices cited Larry's book
2006
01:45:01,937 --> 01:45:06,007
seven times in their decision,
citing no other legal historian.
2007
01:45:08,310 --> 01:45:11,813
Jane roe became known
to the world as Norma mccorvey.
2008
01:45:11,847 --> 01:45:13,925
And when she learned the truth
that having an abortion
2009
01:45:13,949 --> 01:45:16,784
was killing a baby
and not passing a period
2010
01:45:16,818 --> 01:45:21,957
or removing a bunch of cells,
she became pro-life.
2011
01:45:21,990 --> 01:45:26,194
See, the truth is, she herself
never even had an abortion.
2012
01:45:27,695 --> 01:45:29,498
They lied to me.
2013
01:45:29,531 --> 01:45:32,834
I didn't go to the supreme court
for a bunch of women.
2014
01:45:32,868 --> 01:45:35,669
Who lied to you?
2015
01:45:35,703 --> 01:45:37,638
Sarah weddington.
2016
01:45:37,671 --> 01:45:39,975
I asked her if she knew
where to get an abortion
2017
01:45:40,008 --> 01:45:42,611
and she and Linda told me
that they didn't.
2018
01:45:42,643 --> 01:45:44,678
She knew where.
2019
01:45:44,712 --> 01:45:47,315
Could you elaborate?
2020
01:45:47,349 --> 01:45:49,851
Sarah had an abortion in Mexico.
2021
01:45:49,885 --> 01:45:53,221
They were just looking
for somebody to use.
2022
01:45:53,255 --> 01:45:54,923
Do you feel
what you did was wrong?
2023
01:46:00,028 --> 01:46:01,705
You never had
an abortion, did you? I mean...
2024
01:46:01,729 --> 01:46:03,865
No. No, sir.
I never had an abortion.
2025
01:46:03,899 --> 01:46:05,333
You carried
your child to full term.
2026
01:46:05,367 --> 01:46:06,700
Yes, sir, I did.
2027
01:46:06,734 --> 01:46:08,203
You wanted an abortion.
2028
01:46:08,236 --> 01:46:09,838
Yes, sir, I did.
2029
01:46:09,871 --> 01:46:11,805
And in a sense,
you were angry at one point
2030
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:14,409
at Sarah weddington
for not letting you get one
2031
01:46:14,442 --> 01:46:16,677
because it didn't suit
their purposes at that time.
2032
01:46:16,710 --> 01:46:18,813
They needed you
to be pregnant, right?
2033
01:46:18,847 --> 01:46:20,748
They needed their plaintiff
to be pregnant,
2034
01:46:20,781 --> 01:46:22,350
it is exactly right.
2035
01:46:22,384 --> 01:46:25,686
But see, what really was
the tell-in of the whole schmeil
2036
01:46:25,719 --> 01:46:28,423
was the fact that when
Sarah weddington came out
2037
01:46:28,456 --> 01:46:31,993
with her book, I don't know,
two or three years ago,
2038
01:46:32,027 --> 01:46:34,429
she told in her book
that she had an abortion
2039
01:46:34,462 --> 01:46:36,730
and she went to Mexico.
2040
01:46:36,764 --> 01:46:39,668
And when I sat across that table
at Colombo's pizza
2041
01:46:39,700 --> 01:46:42,504
here in Dallas, Texas
and I asked her,
2042
01:46:42,537 --> 01:46:44,039
"I said," Sarah, do you know
2043
01:46:44,072 --> 01:46:46,041
where I can go
and get an abortion?"
2044
01:46:46,074 --> 01:46:50,278
And she said, "no."
Well, she lied to me.
2045
01:46:50,312 --> 01:46:51,745
Some justices
2046
01:46:51,779 --> 01:46:53,348
were leaking to the press.
2047
01:46:53,381 --> 01:46:55,716
Some had family members
working for planned parenthood.
2048
01:46:55,749 --> 01:46:57,686
Burger and other justices
then changed their vote
2049
01:46:57,718 --> 01:47:00,822
because of public outcry
and family pressure.
2050
01:47:03,558 --> 01:47:05,260
Dr. Mildred Jefferson
became the president
2051
01:47:05,293 --> 01:47:07,028
of national right to life,
2052
01:47:07,062 --> 01:47:08,964
and an influence
on President Reagan
2053
01:47:08,997 --> 01:47:10,265
becoming pro-life.
2054
01:47:11,967 --> 01:47:14,269
I produced a documentary
called the silent scream
2055
01:47:14,302 --> 01:47:17,738
where 18 days before
you even miss your period
2056
01:47:17,771 --> 01:47:21,876
and realize you're pregnant,
there is a heartbeat.
2057
01:47:21,910 --> 01:47:25,247
At ten weeks, when you go
to abort your baby,
2058
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:28,483
she will actually feel the pain
of having her limbs torn off.
2059
01:47:28,516 --> 01:47:31,586
This is the silent scream
2060
01:47:31,620 --> 01:47:35,690
of a child threatened
imminently with extinction.
2061
01:47:51,673 --> 01:47:54,242
โช I put my hope and trust โช
2062
01:47:54,276 --> 01:47:57,746
โช in things
that would not hold โช
2063
01:47:57,778 --> 01:48:02,617
โช I built my house
upon the sinking sand โช
2064
01:48:05,287 --> 01:48:11,159
โช and everything I thought
I had under control โช
2065
01:48:11,192 --> 01:48:15,630
โช failed to satisfy and slipped
right through my hands โช
2066
01:48:18,300 --> 01:48:22,704
โช there's an aching
in my bones โช
2067
01:48:24,973 --> 01:48:29,678
โช but I know I'm not alone โช
2068
01:48:31,646 --> 01:48:36,051
โช I can't do this on my own โช
2069
01:48:38,553 --> 01:48:44,592
โช so I will stand
I will stand in your love โช
2070
01:48:56,705 --> 01:49:02,877
โช I thought my only worth
was in what I could do โช
2071
01:49:02,911 --> 01:49:07,415
โช I tried to earn the love
I don't deserve โช
2072
01:49:10,352 --> 01:49:16,257
โช I settled for the lie
that it was not enough โช
2073
01:49:16,291 --> 01:49:21,029
โช to receive the gift of grace
you freely give โช
2074
01:49:22,897 --> 01:49:29,270
โช oh there's an aching
in my soul โช
2075
01:49:29,304 --> 01:49:36,077
โช but I know I'm not alone โช
2076
01:49:36,111 --> 01:49:41,416
โช no I can't do this on my own โช
2077
01:49:43,618 --> 01:49:50,392
โช so I will stand
I will stand in your love โช
2078
01:49:50,425 --> 01:49:58,425
โช I will stand
I will stand in your love โช
2079
01:50:23,826 --> 01:50:28,596
โช When everything is broken โช
2080
01:50:30,598 --> 01:50:35,703
โช heaven's eyes are open โช
2081
01:50:37,672 --> 01:50:45,672
โช I can see the storm clouds
lift away โช
2082
01:50:51,152 --> 01:50:56,558
โช When everything
seems hopeless โช
2083
01:50:57,893 --> 01:51:03,331
โช your word will be my compass โช
2084
01:51:04,834 --> 01:51:12,834
โช I'm standing in the promise
you have made โช
2085
01:51:19,915 --> 01:51:26,621
โช So I will stand
I will stand in your love โช
2086
01:51:26,654 --> 01:51:33,361
โช I will stand
I will stand in your love โช
2087
01:51:33,394 --> 01:51:40,301
โช I will stand
I will stand in your love โช
2088
01:51:40,335 --> 01:51:48,335
โช I will stand
I will stand in your love โชโช
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