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Today's guest--
Well, she's a superstar actress,
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"New York Times"
best-selling author
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and has
her own clean wine brand.
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Ladies, gentlemen, I'm talking
about... Cameron Diaz.
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(whoops) Hello!
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-Oh, my goodness.
-Well, good to see you.
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-I...
-Thank you for having me.
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Well, thank you for being had.
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In the, uh,
the nicest way possible.
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-Yo, I'm excited right now.
-Me, too.
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This is like a...
this is a very big deal.
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-Yeah?
-Uh, I'm gonna fan for a minute, okay?
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-Okay.
-Big deal because I have never met you in person.
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I've only seen you
on the big screen.
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And on the big screen,
I've forever been a fan
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of your level of funny as
a comedian, as a comedic actor.
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You are in one of the most
legendary movies to date,
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and that's
"Something About Mary."
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And it kind of crowned you
in this comedic space
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to me,
and I know to so many more.
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So to be able to sit across
from you right now
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and talk to you,
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-this is a big deal, man.
-Thank you.
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-This is a really big deal.
-Well... I really honestly
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that makes me feel...
actually feel-feel validated.
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-Okay.
-Because I'm not...
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I don't consider myself
necessarily,
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-like, a comedian in the sense.
-Okay.
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-Like, I couldn't do
what you do. -Okay.
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You know, and the--
and I couldn't be on-on a stage
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telling a joke
and make people laugh.
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I'm more of, um,
you know, I can be funny.
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-Mm-hmm.
-But I never thought of myself as, like, a comedienne.
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-Because, like, you know...
-Well, you can say comedic actress, but you...
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-Comedic actress, yes. Yeah.
-A comedic actress
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-with the chops and potential
-Thank you.
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-to take on the stage
if she chose to. -Yeah.
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But I feel really-- I love--
It makes me feel good
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that you feel that way
about what I do.
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-I mean it. I mean it, uh...
-Thank you.
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I'm-a give you
a quick lay of the land
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-before we get
into our discussion. -Let me see it. Okay.
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-There is no prep.
-Mm-hmm.
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There's no predetermined
conversation.
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There is no interview,
and you will not figure out
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what we're gonna say to say it.
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My goal here is to have
a real talk show
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-where you really talk.
-I love it. Where we talk.
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And we drink wine here.
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Isn't it so great
that you get to make
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your life the way
that you wanted to?
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-I think so.
-That's so cool.
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-I think it's a beautiful thing.
-Yeah.
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-This is my somm.
-Hi.
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-Mr. Hart, Mrs. Diaz.
-Yeah, I can't say...
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-Hello, sir, how are you?
-Very well. How are you?
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Somm-- Sommelier.
Som-Sommerlier.
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-What is your name, sommelier?
-Sommelier.
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-Sommelier.
-If you're English.
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-Sommelier?
-Sommelier.
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-Sommelier, if you're French.
-Sommelier.
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We just say somm,
we just say somm.
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-Somm, somm.
-Somm.
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Uh, what are we drinking today?
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Well, compliments of Mrs. Diaz.
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We've got
her incredible selection.
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I want the rouge.
I want to go with the rouge.
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-Absolutely, absolutely.
-You're gonna love it.
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So delicious.
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How long have you had
your own wine?
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This is--
We launched in July of 2020.
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So it's-- That's basically--
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You know, Kevin,
this is what I decided.
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I have to--
I-I wanted to have a job
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where I can work from home.
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-Okay. Okay.
-(laughs): So...
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-I quit, I quit acting.
-This definitely allows you to do that.
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And I started a wine...
wine brand, yeah.
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Why? Have you, uh,
have you always been into wine?
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-Are you a wine lover?
-I love wine. Who does not love wine?
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-Give her a nice pour. Yeah.
-There we go.
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Absolutely.
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This is huge.
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I like a lot of ice.
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I like to water it.
It's a beverage.
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-Thank you so much.
-Thank you.
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-A cheers to you
and, uh, your brand. -Cheers.
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This is like a goblet.
Like, I'm like...
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Well, I had no idea.
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This is, honestly, exciting.
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By the way, I'm not mad at it.
There's no complaint.
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-Well, let's-let's have
a good time. -Cheers.
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So, you-you started this,
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you launched it
because your love for wine...
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So, this is basically
what happened.
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My girlfriend and I--
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my girlfriend who's...
She's an entrepreneur.
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She's in the... beauty
and apparel for women.
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-Mm-hmm.
-And she...
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We're really good friends,
you know.
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-We drink wine together.
-Okay.
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-What do we do with our friends?
We have-- -You're girlfriends.
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-Yeah, exactly.
-Got it.
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And we started kind of thinking,
you know,
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-we want to have wine,
we want to have more wine. -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
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But we don't always feel great
after we drink wine.
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-So... Headaches. Exactly.
-Headaches, dry mouth.
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-Yeah, got you.
-You know, wake up in the morning, like,
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-we have to function
the next day. -Exactly.
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Why are we going to have
another glass of wine?
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But we really wanted to,
so we started asking
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ourselves, how can we make
wine better for us?
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So you created your own.
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Yes, but the thing was,
is what--
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It wasn't anything
that we thought it was.
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We-we thought it was
something maybe would--
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really naively thought we would
add to it.
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But what we learned
in the winemaking process,
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it's what you don't add to it.
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-Mm!
-And so, we knew that, for ourselves,
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we were the kind of consumer
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that wanted to have
what the category of clean is,
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across many categories, is sort
of defined by certain things,
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usually what's not in a product.
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And so whether it's skin care
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or something
that you're eating organic,
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whatever it might be,
it's basically
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how can I consume something
that I know
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doesn't have anything
in it that I can't pronounce
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or that I don't know what it
does to my body.
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I just want it as clean
and simple as possible.
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I was gonna say you-you
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took out the complications,
and...
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Well, well, winemaking is,
as you know
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as a fan of wine,
it's a process.
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It's-it's a living,
breathing entity,
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-you know?
-Absolutely.
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And so, the-the value
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that we wanted in our wine was,
it to be just
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as-as close to fermented grapes
as we could get.
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-Okay, I love it. Cheers to you.
-Cheers to you.
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-Good, cheers to you
and your breakdown. -Thank you.
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-See, this is the beauty
of the show. -Yeah.
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Organic conversation, now you're
like, "Yeah, let's talk."
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-Okay, let's talk.
-That's amazing. I love that.
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You said something
while talking about this.
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You said,
"I wanted to do something
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-that allowed me to be at home."
-Mm-hmm.
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-"Allowed me to be at
home, work from home and chill." -Yeah.
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And then you said,
"Because I quit acting.
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-I just stopped," right?
-Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
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Um, it's been a conversation
for so many.
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It's been a-a wonder, a-a why?
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Why did Cameron Diaz step away
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-from the world of acting?
-Mm. Mm-hmm.
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What is it
that motivated you to stop?
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Well, you know, I think you
probably can relate to this.
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It's like, when you do something
at a really high level
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-for a long period of time...
-Mm-hmm.
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You know, you're--
There-there's a lot that...
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When you're the person
who's sort of delivering
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on this one thing, right?
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You're the person on the screen,
you're the person who's,
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-like, "the talent," you know...
-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
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Um, everything around you,
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all parts of you
that isn't that,
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has to be sort of handed off
to other people.
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-Mm.
-You know? So, like, different parts of my life,
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whether it was my home or--
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Every aspect from finances
to just the management
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of just me as a human being,
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-not me as Cameron Diaz.
-You're now... the machine.
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-Cameron Diaz is a machine.
-Mm-hmm.
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But, like,
for my personal person--
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my personal spiritual,
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you know, self, um, I...
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was realizing that,
you know, it's kind of like
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that-that one part of me
that functioned
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at a high level wasn't enough,
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-you know?
-Mm.
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It's fun to do. I love it.
I love acting.
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It's... you know,
I can go forever.
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I literally feel like sometimes
I have unlimited,
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you know, energy and,
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you know, inertia. (chuckles)
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-You know what I mean?
When I'm... -What does "inertia" mean?
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Like, movement forward.
Like, you know,
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-giving... you know.
-I'm gonna do that a lot.
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-If I don't know,
I'm gonna ask you. -Yeah.
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-No, I love that.
-I do not feel any bad...
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-I don't feel
a certain type of way. -No.
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-No, you shouldn't.
-So, judge me later, but I don't know a lot of words.
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-I have no judgment.
That's not-- -Okay. I understand now.
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I don't give a shit.
(laughs)
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-I understand.
So your energy-- I got it. -Yeah.
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You know, just,
like, putting that forward.
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And I just realized
that I looked around
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and it was just, like,
so many parts of my life
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that I didn't have,
I wasn't touching,
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and that I wasn't managing.
And I couldn't really manage it
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because it was so...
it was so big.
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Everything was so,
you know, massive.
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Oh. How old were you at the time
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-when you're getting
this realization? -Um, like, 40.
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-You know?
-Mm-hmm. And it's-it's clicking
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-at this point in a way
that never has? -Yeah.
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Yeah. And I wasn't, you know,
I didn't have, you know,
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I have a lot of great friends,
and I have a lot
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of really incredible people
who have supported me
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for so long and who--
And I really do believe
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it's about the people
that you have,
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you know, in your life that can
help you keep things moving.
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And I had some amazing people,
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and I have other people
who were not serving
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-my best interest always.
-Mm-hmm.
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But you don't have time
to figure those things out
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if you are just going,
going, going, going
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like this, you know,
with blinders on.
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Y-You're-you're...
You're in the tunnel.
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-You're in the tunnel.
-I'm-I'm very familiar with the tunnel.
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-Yes.
-Right? And...
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and as that machine
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-that you're referring to...
-Mm-hmm.
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...is getting fed because, like
you said, there's so many people
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around you, but they're
just feeding the machine.
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-Yeah.
-They're not that concerned or interested with the person.
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Yeah, you know, well, my--
I-I feel like I was
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really lucky 'cause I had people
that I worked with for 20 years.
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You know what I mean?
Who I really, I know they have
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my best interests,
but for me, I just really wanted
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to make my life
manageable by me, you know?
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Like, my routine
in a day is literally
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what I can manage
to do by myself.
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I know that has to feel amazing.
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-It's the best feeling.
-Going from that.
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Yeah, I feel whole, and,
like, and I also didn't have,
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you know, I didn't have
the, uh, you know,
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I found, I met my husband.
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-Mm-hmm.
-You know? We started a family.
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All of those things that
I didn't have time for before.
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And didn't actually not just
not have the time for,
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but didn't have the space
to make the decisions,
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the right decisions
for me at the times
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-to-to bring that in. So...
-I love to hear it. I love to hear it.
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Yeah.
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Here's-here's a question.
When you talk about your team...
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-Yeah, yeah.
-Right? When you talk about the people that were around you
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for 20 years,
was that a meeting?
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-Was it a conversation
or-or was there...? -Everybody kind of knew.
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I was just like,
"I'm fucking tired." (laughs)
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-I'm like,
"Mama needs to take a nap." -Was this at, uh...? Yeah.
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-That's... (laughs)
-It was, it was a decision...
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-Yeah. Yeah.
-...that-that you made,
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-Yeah.
-and it wasn't, it...
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-people saw it coming,
at this point? -Yeah.
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Everybody saw it coming,
and even, like,
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my manager Rick Yorn,
who's like my brother,
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um, you know, he's like,
"I know you're serious."
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-Mm-hmm.
-Like, I know you're serious.
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He's-- He'll-he'll say,
he'll bring me something
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every once in a while
where I kind of go like,
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"Am I gonna do that?"
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And then I think of all the
things I'd have to let go of...
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-To do it.
-...in my life that I have,
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I touch now, like,
I would have to go away
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from all of it,
and I don't want to, like...
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It's such a passion now
for what you're doing.
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Yeah, like, I literally
am just like,
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it's so great to know.
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And-and I actually consider
those options
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to help me remind me
that I'm doing exactly
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what I want to do.
You know what I mean?
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-How long you've been married?
-Six years.
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-Six years. Congratulations.
-Yeah, going on. Thank you so much.
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-How many kids?
-We have one child.
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-Uh, boy or girl?
-Girl.
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-Girl. Name?
-Mm-hmm.
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I don't actually,
I-I've heard....
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People know her name, but I just
don't say it out loud, yeah.
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-You don't say it.
Okay, I like it. -Yeah. Yeah.
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I'm finding out.
I'm getting everything.
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I'm-- My-my feeling
about it is, like...
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-people know who I am.
-Mm-hmm.
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I want her to have her autonomy
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-as long as she, you know, like,
I want her to have her autonomy. -Protecting your...
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-And I want her to be--
-You're protecting your child. I get it.
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-Anonymity. Exactly.
-You don't have to explain that.
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It's very simple.
I don't want to do that.
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-I-- It's-- That's a d...
-You have kids, too?
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Yes, I have four.
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Two young ones, right?
And two older ones?
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-I have two older ones. Uh...
-Yeah.
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16. 13, about to be 14.
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-Uh-huh.
-Three.
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-Uh-huh.
-Seven months.
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-Seven months?
-Seven months.
300
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-Three years old.
-Seven months.
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Do you just want
to, like...? (grunts)
302
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-They're so delicious at that...
-No, no,
303
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I don't want to do that,
I just...
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No, I don't want do that.
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-No? You don't want to just,
-No, no, no.
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-like, bite 'em,
they're just so cute? -I call him little Taz.
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-Why is that?
-Tasmanian Devil.
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That's a little Taz.
He's-he's all over the place.
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-He's all over the place?
-All over the place. I mean...
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-He's just... (whooshing)
-I-I love it though.
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-Yeah.
-I'm not even gonna sit up here and downplay it.
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-Yeah.
-I love the large household.
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I love-- I can complain
about it when I want,
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but there's no feeling
like walking home...
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-Mm. Ah.
-...and hearing "Dad" being screamed from all over,
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and seeing the excitement
of your arrival
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-and the need for your time.
-Mm-hmm.
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Like, that's the-the best thing
in the world.
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-Mm-hmm.
-Um, what I love that you just said,
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that is extremely important,
is knowing where you want
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-to put your time and where
you want to put your energy. -Mm-hmm.
322
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And, you know, in our
business, it's a tug-of-war.
323
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-Yeah.
-It's a tug-of-war as to how many people get it
324
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-versus how many people don't.
-Mm-hmm.
325
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Um, tell me
what that energy is for you.
326
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I mean, you're talking
about motherhood.
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Are you just,
are you engulfed in?
328
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-Are you...?
-I love it so much.
329
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-Yeah?
-It's, like, sometimes I'm literally like,
330
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"I used to do so much in a day."
331
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(laughs):
You know what I mean?
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I literally just,
like, slay every, like,
333
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15 minutes, just like...
(vocalizing)
334
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You know,
like, getting shit done.
335
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And now I'm sort of like,
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"Okay, wait, where was I?"
(laughs)
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Like, wait, am I-- okay, yeah.
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Because, you know,
everything starts and goes,
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and stops and goes, because it's
all about her needs,
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-you know?
-Yeah.
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So I'm, you know,
I cook all of her meals.
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You know, I'm, I wake her up,
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my husband puts her to bed.
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We do, we're a total tag team.
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You know, we do have childcare
that helps us, which is so--
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-I don't even know how mothers
who don't have childcare do it. -Mm-hmm.
347
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-It's a lot. It's a lot.
-I really do not understand.
348
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My heart goes out to them
and they are superheroes.
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Um, and I know that's where,
like, the true fatigue comes in
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when you don't have somebody to
sort of like pass them off to.
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-You know?
-Absolutely. I mean, you give me my kids for an hour,
352
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-I'm-I'm out of it.
-Yeah. Exactly.
353
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-There's no shot. No shot.
-You're like... (laughing)
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You-you--
I'm-I'm looking around.
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I don't know how anybody does
it. I don't, I don't get it.
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-How do you--
how do people do this? -You just, like...
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-I don't understand.
-I get scared if my wife leaves.
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But you do see how people
are like, "Get outside."
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Like the mother who, like, locks
their kid outside because,
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their children outside because
she just needs ten minutes.
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-I understand it.
-I get it. I understand.
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If you want to laugh,
you should see my wife,
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her face
at-at the amount of fear
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that-that I'm overcome with
when she goes,
365
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"Hey, watch the kids.
I'm running out."
366
00:13:43,406 --> 00:13:45,526
Whoa. Hey, what you doing?
367
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-What--? Where are you going?
-Where are you going? Wait, what?
368
00:13:47,786 --> 00:13:49,406
-What-what? No, take 'em...
-What? For how long?
369
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Take 'em with you.
I'm not-- No!
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-All of 'em? I got all of 'em?
-All of them.
371
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-With me? No.
-Wait, but do the older ones help out
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-with the younger ones at all?
-My-my...
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-my oldest, Heaven, is amazing.
-Yeah.
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She's amazing. My-my... my son,
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my oldest son, don't leave him
with any responsibility.
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00:14:04,469 --> 00:14:07,429
-No. (laughs)
-No, it's-- you'll find a baby facedown.
377
00:14:07,472 --> 00:14:08,892
-Oh, no. (shushing)
-Yeah.
378
00:14:08,932 --> 00:14:10,642
Dude, I told you, watch the kid.
379
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"I was online. I was on the
game. I didn't know." Like, no.
380
00:14:13,603 --> 00:14:15,813
-Right.
-Uh, but I will say,
381
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I-I second what you said,
you know?
382
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The mothers that literally take
on that responsibility that may
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or may not have help and just,
you know, do it, get it done.
384
00:14:25,198 --> 00:14:26,618
-Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
-They are heroes. It's a lot!
385
00:14:26,658 --> 00:14:29,238
-Raising a child is a lot.
-Is so much.
386
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And I even think back
to my childhood,
387
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because my sister and I,
we had, uh, the babysitter
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-in the neighborhood...
-Older sister, younger sister?
389
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-Older sister, two years.
-Okay.
390
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And we had the babysitter
that all the kids
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went to in the neighborhood,
but there's 35 kids and, like,
392
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one woman, and all of us
were just animals, you know?
393
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We're, like, just ripping
each other's hairs,
394
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-hair out and, like...
-Ugh.
395
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-God bless you.
-It was just like...
396
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-God bless you.
-...mayhem every day.
397
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First of all, in your,
in your household coming up,
398
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was it a, was it Mom and Dad?
399
00:14:56,896 --> 00:14:58,356
-Mom and Dad, yeah.
-Okay.
400
00:14:58,398 --> 00:15:00,728
-So do you think
because of the way... -Yeah.
401
00:15:00,775 --> 00:15:02,645
-that you guys were raised...
-Oh, for sure.
402
00:15:02,694 --> 00:15:05,454
-does that add
to your hands-on tactics now? -Yes.
403
00:15:05,488 --> 00:15:08,408
Yeah, I mean, you know, my
parents, both my parents worked,
404
00:15:08,450 --> 00:15:10,490
so it wasn't
like they were, like,
405
00:15:10,535 --> 00:15:12,745
-off lost to us,
you know what I mean? -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
406
00:15:12,787 --> 00:15:14,617
There was, uh,
we knew we got up with them,
407
00:15:14,664 --> 00:15:17,384
we went to school and
they would come home eventually
408
00:15:17,417 --> 00:15:18,997
in the evening after work.
409
00:15:19,044 --> 00:15:21,004
What I think is dope
about listening to you talk now,
410
00:15:21,046 --> 00:15:24,836
you know, you're-you're
kind of experiencing life...
411
00:15:24,883 --> 00:15:26,683
-on-on-- Yeah, it's like,
it's like... -Backwards. (chuckles)
412
00:15:26,718 --> 00:15:29,718
it's like you've reached
these pinnacles.
413
00:15:29,763 --> 00:15:32,223
And then after doing it,
you're now finding
414
00:15:32,265 --> 00:15:34,635
your biggest success
and being able to devote
415
00:15:34,684 --> 00:15:36,484
-your time to your, to your...
-It's, it is
416
00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:38,609
my favorite part
of life, for sure.
417
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* *
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* *
419
00:15:53,912 --> 00:15:56,542
-Um...
-So how did you, how did you stumble into acting then?
420
00:15:56,581 --> 00:15:58,711
Like, at the age of 16,
if you're modeling,
421
00:15:58,750 --> 00:16:01,540
-you know, when-when did,
when did the opportunity -I was...
422
00:16:01,586 --> 00:16:04,166
-for acting come to you?
-So, I was modeling.
423
00:16:04,214 --> 00:16:05,844
I was doing
commercials and catalog.
424
00:16:05,882 --> 00:16:08,802
I wasn't a fashion-- I wasn't,
like, an editorial model.
425
00:16:08,843 --> 00:16:11,013
-Okay.
-I was, like, making a really decent living
426
00:16:11,054 --> 00:16:13,814
for a young girl who never
saw money in her life.
427
00:16:13,848 --> 00:16:16,638
-Okay.
-You know what I mean, to, like, make money doing
428
00:16:16,685 --> 00:16:19,895
a catalog and-and...
and-and commercials.
429
00:16:19,938 --> 00:16:22,898
And I went to live in Paris,
and I was there for a year.
430
00:16:22,941 --> 00:16:25,821
-Mm-hmm.
-And I never worked except for one-one job.
431
00:16:25,860 --> 00:16:29,320
And I'm convinced that they just
thought I was not gonna return
432
00:16:29,364 --> 00:16:31,494
from Morocco,
is why they sent me there.
433
00:16:31,533 --> 00:16:34,083
They were like, "Who hasn't
worked this entire year?
434
00:16:34,119 --> 00:16:36,449
"Let's send her.
If she doesn't come back,
435
00:16:36,496 --> 00:16:38,826
-it'll, no-no harm for us."
-So you're with,
436
00:16:38,873 --> 00:16:40,503
-are you with, like, an agency?
-Yes, I was with an agency.
437
00:16:40,542 --> 00:16:42,172
So you got, you're just
living there and it's...
438
00:16:42,210 --> 00:16:44,250
I'm living there, I'm going
on every single call possible.
439
00:16:44,295 --> 00:16:46,295
-Holy cow.
-Didn't get the job.
440
00:16:46,339 --> 00:16:47,759
I came home to do my taxes.
441
00:16:47,799 --> 00:16:49,759
Whilst I was home,
I went into my agency,
442
00:16:49,801 --> 00:16:51,931
which here I worked
all the time,
443
00:16:51,970 --> 00:16:53,260
I worked every single day.
444
00:16:53,304 --> 00:16:56,524
And my agent,
my commercial agent said,
445
00:16:56,558 --> 00:16:59,138
"Hey, they're casting a movie.
They want to see girls.
446
00:16:59,185 --> 00:17:01,055
Will you go in
and read for the part?"
447
00:17:01,104 --> 00:17:02,484
And it was for "The Mask."
448
00:17:02,522 --> 00:17:05,442
And so, I didn't read
for the main part,
449
00:17:05,483 --> 00:17:07,493
originally, but I-I...
450
00:17:07,527 --> 00:17:09,987
I ended up going back
and reading for the-the...
451
00:17:10,030 --> 00:17:11,360
the female lead.
452
00:17:11,406 --> 00:17:13,366
Chuck Russell,
the director, was amazing.
453
00:17:13,408 --> 00:17:15,578
He just basically said
like, "I want..."
454
00:17:15,618 --> 00:17:17,908
It was down-- They were trying
to get Anna Nicole Smith
455
00:17:17,954 --> 00:17:19,794
to do it, because at the time,
456
00:17:19,831 --> 00:17:22,791
Jim Carrey was still a white
dude from "In Living Color."
457
00:17:22,834 --> 00:17:26,004
-Yeah.
-Um, "Pet Detective" hadn't come out yet.
458
00:17:26,046 --> 00:17:27,836
-Yeah.
-"Ace Ventura" hadn't come out yet.
459
00:17:27,881 --> 00:17:29,971
So they were basically
trying to get, like,
460
00:17:30,008 --> 00:17:31,798
a-a female star in the role.
461
00:17:31,843 --> 00:17:33,973
-Somebody else to be...
-Somebody that they knew.
462
00:17:34,012 --> 00:17:35,762
-Yeah, somebody. A bigger
name or just somebody... -And here's this-- exactly.
463
00:17:35,805 --> 00:17:38,015
And here's this, like,
like, L.A. commercial actress
464
00:17:38,058 --> 00:17:41,098
that Chuck Russell was like,
"She is my Tina Carlyle.
465
00:17:41,144 --> 00:17:44,404
I want her," and he took me
through the entire process.
466
00:17:44,439 --> 00:17:46,359
Like, I was doing wardrobe
and dance.
467
00:17:46,399 --> 00:17:47,979
-How old are you?
How old are you? -I was 20.
468
00:17:48,026 --> 00:17:50,946
And I turned 21
on the set of "The Mask."
469
00:17:50,987 --> 00:17:54,277
And he basically was like,
"You're going to be
470
00:17:54,324 --> 00:17:56,334
"my Tina Carlyle.
You're gonna be my Tina.
471
00:17:56,368 --> 00:17:58,948
Just keep coming."
I was doing dance rehearsal,
472
00:17:58,995 --> 00:18:00,655
I was doing, you know,
473
00:18:00,705 --> 00:18:02,325
wardrobe fittings.
I was doing everything.
474
00:18:02,374 --> 00:18:03,884
I still hadn't got the job yet.
475
00:18:03,917 --> 00:18:06,417
And it was basically,
like, two weeks
476
00:18:06,461 --> 00:18:07,881
before they were starting
to film.
477
00:18:07,921 --> 00:18:09,461
-They said, "You got the job."
-How long,
478
00:18:09,506 --> 00:18:11,006
how long did you go
through the process?
479
00:18:11,049 --> 00:18:12,259
How long did you go through
the process, like...?
480
00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:13,640
It was like a-a month or two,
481
00:18:13,677 --> 00:18:15,177
-I think, or a month and a half.
-By the way,
482
00:18:15,220 --> 00:18:16,760
understand what you just said,
483
00:18:16,805 --> 00:18:20,555
this can be the demise
of an actor or actress, okay?
484
00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,850
-Mm-hmm.
-When you, when you are acting
485
00:18:22,894 --> 00:18:24,904
-as if you have said part...
-Mm-hmm.
486
00:18:24,938 --> 00:18:27,518
-and you haven't been
given said part... -Mm-hmm.
487
00:18:27,565 --> 00:18:29,475
It's a very dangerous space
to play in.
488
00:18:29,526 --> 00:18:31,606
-But I wasn't an actress.
I was a model. -That's my point. It's like...
489
00:18:31,653 --> 00:18:33,533
But you then, you're-you're...
490
00:18:33,571 --> 00:18:35,531
you're engulfed
into this now dream.
491
00:18:35,573 --> 00:18:37,583
-Yeah.
-You're "Oh, my God!"
492
00:18:37,617 --> 00:18:39,077
-It was really exciting. Yeah.
-"So you want me to go?
493
00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,499
-Mm-hmm.
-Yeah, you want me to go meet? Yeah!"
494
00:18:40,537 --> 00:18:41,867
You want me to go talk? Yeah!"
495
00:18:41,913 --> 00:18:43,833
And it just keeps progressing
and progressing.
496
00:18:43,873 --> 00:18:45,883
Yeah, it was really wild.
It was just sort of, like,
497
00:18:45,917 --> 00:18:47,997
all of a sudden I was like...
I'm not--
498
00:18:48,044 --> 00:18:49,964
I don't consider myself
a really competitive person,
499
00:18:50,005 --> 00:18:52,005
but I really just thought it was
so much fun.
500
00:18:52,048 --> 00:18:54,718
I had, I'd never gotten the rush
that I had gotten when I...
501
00:18:54,759 --> 00:18:57,429
-By doing that?
-You know, by acting with Jim Carrey.
502
00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:59,890
You know what I mean?
And I said, you know,
503
00:18:59,931 --> 00:19:01,931
"All right, okay." I didn't
even know what it meant.
504
00:19:01,975 --> 00:19:03,765
I didn't know
what making a movie meant.
505
00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:05,600
I didn't even know how
to hit a m-- like, I knew how
506
00:19:05,645 --> 00:19:07,555
to hit a mark
from doing commercials,
507
00:19:07,605 --> 00:19:09,515
but, like,
acting wasn't my thing.
508
00:19:09,566 --> 00:19:12,066
-You're thrown,
you're thrown into it. -Yeah, I'd never done it before.
509
00:19:12,110 --> 00:19:14,070
-Are you kidding me?
So this wasn't even... -Mm-mm.
510
00:19:14,112 --> 00:19:16,452
-This wasn't the plan.
This was a... -Never the plan.
511
00:19:16,489 --> 00:19:18,239
-I was not trying to act.
-Wow.
512
00:19:18,283 --> 00:19:20,083
I was not--
I was doing commercials.
513
00:19:20,118 --> 00:19:22,868
And I was like,
"Okay. I guess so. Sure. Uh..."
514
00:19:22,912 --> 00:19:25,922
You know? And then I was just
like, "This is fun. I'll do it.
515
00:19:25,957 --> 00:19:28,077
Sure, great."
And then after I did it,
516
00:19:28,126 --> 00:19:31,756
I had such-- I had never had
a sense of community before.
517
00:19:31,796 --> 00:19:34,216
-Mm-hmm.
-Because as a, as a model, we would be on a,
518
00:19:34,257 --> 00:19:36,547
you know, a shoot
for maybe a week,
519
00:19:36,593 --> 00:19:38,393
-and then you never see
the people again. -Mm.
520
00:19:38,428 --> 00:19:40,928
-But you know how it is
on a, on a set... -On a modeling set, I do.
521
00:19:40,972 --> 00:19:42,602
-No. Yeah, you know how it is.
-On a modeling set.
522
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,060
You know, when they're
just like... (laughing)
523
00:19:45,101 --> 00:19:46,941
Why are y'all laughing?
524
00:19:46,978 --> 00:19:49,108
-That wasn't your laugh.
-No, no, it wasn't a joke.
525
00:19:49,147 --> 00:19:50,767
-No, I just don't understand
my crew's problem. -It was not...
526
00:19:50,815 --> 00:19:52,475
It's-it's, honestly, guys.
527
00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:54,935
-I remember working with him
at the end of my career. -Yes.
528
00:19:54,986 --> 00:19:56,446
-I'm just kidding. (laughs)
-You have no idea.
529
00:19:56,488 --> 00:19:58,028
the modeling jobs that I had.
530
00:19:58,073 --> 00:19:59,953
Go google "hard body."
531
00:19:59,991 --> 00:20:02,241
"Hard body 1993."
532
00:20:02,285 --> 00:20:04,655
-(laughing)
-You tell me if I had a modeling career.
533
00:20:04,704 --> 00:20:06,374
-Sorry, Cameron.
It's just a lot of... -It's okay.
534
00:20:06,414 --> 00:20:07,924
-attitudes around here.
-I understand.
535
00:20:07,957 --> 00:20:09,377
-You have to keep them,
you know... -In line.
536
00:20:09,417 --> 00:20:10,917
-Yeah.
-It's just a lot.
537
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,800
So did it click after that,
that this is now...
538
00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:17,129
-Yeah.
-...this could be my career?
539
00:20:17,175 --> 00:20:19,255
-This is now
what I want to do. -Yes. Then I was like,
540
00:20:19,302 --> 00:20:21,812
then I was like, "This is fun.
I want to do this.
541
00:20:21,846 --> 00:20:23,556
-This is what I want to do."
-Okay.
542
00:20:23,598 --> 00:20:25,978
And so I got an agent,
543
00:20:26,017 --> 00:20:29,477
and I, you know,
was basically like,
544
00:20:29,521 --> 00:20:31,691
"I don't want to do the parts
they're gonna ask me to do."
545
00:20:31,731 --> 00:20:34,031
-Okay.
-Those are not the parts I want to do.
546
00:20:34,067 --> 00:20:36,527
-Okay.
-Whoever asked-- like, my first offer I got
547
00:20:36,569 --> 00:20:39,609
after "The Mask" was
to play, like, a scientist.
548
00:20:39,656 --> 00:20:41,696
You know, like,
a sexy scientist,
549
00:20:41,741 --> 00:20:43,991
-you know, from Russia.
-Okay.
550
00:20:44,035 --> 00:20:46,325
(laughing):
You know what I mean? Or something like this.
551
00:20:46,371 --> 00:20:49,001
-Natasha. Natasha.
Of course. Yeah. -Yeah, yeah, exactly.
552
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,830
-You know what I mean?
-You're a perfect Natasha. I can see it.
553
00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:53,795
And then, like, the lab, like,
breaks out in infection
554
00:20:53,837 --> 00:20:55,877
-and, like, you know-- Yeah.
-Yeah. You poisoned-- "Did you poison Mr. Kraft?"
555
00:20:55,922 --> 00:20:57,382
-Exactly. Exactly.
-And you tell him,
556
00:20:57,424 --> 00:21:00,224
in your voice, Natasha,
you say, uh,
557
00:21:00,260 --> 00:21:02,680
-"Welcome to Russia." Yeah.
-Yeah. I was like, "Yo, I'm from Long Beach.
558
00:21:02,721 --> 00:21:05,641
"And that shit is not,
I can't even barely move...
559
00:21:05,682 --> 00:21:08,062
-My tongue is so lazy."
-But how are you...?
560
00:21:08,101 --> 00:21:10,601
How are you so in the know
at this point to,
561
00:21:10,645 --> 00:21:13,105
like, you know, I know,
I-I... they're gonna say--
562
00:21:13,148 --> 00:21:15,358
-I don't want these things.
-Because I, because I...
563
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,940
-because I'm a woman,
and I'm objectified constantly. -Mm-hmm, uh-huh.
564
00:21:17,986 --> 00:21:20,236
-And sexualized constantly.
-Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
565
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,530
-And I was like,
"I don't want to do that." -Wow.
566
00:21:22,574 --> 00:21:24,084
You know? So I was like,
567
00:21:24,117 --> 00:21:26,447
"Let me do-- I want
to learn how to act first."
568
00:21:26,494 --> 00:21:28,044
Who was the representation
at this point?
569
00:21:28,079 --> 00:21:30,829
Well, Nick Styne was
my agent and has been--
570
00:21:30,874 --> 00:21:33,044
now I'm not acting anymore,
so he was,
571
00:21:33,084 --> 00:21:35,054
he was my agent
all the way through my career.
572
00:21:35,086 --> 00:21:37,166
-Okay.
-And, you know, I said to him...
573
00:21:37,213 --> 00:21:39,423
I was like, "I don't want
to be put on the back burner.
574
00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:41,886
"I want to, like...
I really am serious about this.
575
00:21:41,926 --> 00:21:45,006
"I want to, like,
try to find, you know, roles
576
00:21:45,055 --> 00:21:47,885
that aren't, you know, the ones
that they're gonna want me for."
577
00:21:47,932 --> 00:21:50,062
So, you know,
I did, like, an indie film
578
00:21:50,101 --> 00:21:51,481
called "The Last Supper,"
579
00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:53,609
and then I did "Head Above
Water" with Harvey Keitel.
580
00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:55,896
Then I did "Feeling Minnesota"
with Keanu Reeves
581
00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:58,030
and, um, Vincent D'Onofrio.
582
00:21:58,068 --> 00:22:00,068
-And...
-And all these... All these are, like,
583
00:22:00,111 --> 00:22:01,911
-calculated picks, or...?
-Like... Yeah, they were just,
584
00:22:01,946 --> 00:22:03,946
like, things that I had
the opportunity to do.
585
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:06,080
-Good roles, though.
-You know? But they weren't, like, the...
586
00:22:06,117 --> 00:22:09,247
You know, I was literally
just learning how to act.
587
00:22:09,287 --> 00:22:12,207
-Mm-hmm.
-Like, I was just... I called it "on the job training."
588
00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:14,418
-Acting coach at this time?
No acting coach? -I had a, uh...
589
00:22:14,459 --> 00:22:18,089
-Yes. I did, um, have somebody
who would help me out. -Okay.
590
00:22:18,129 --> 00:22:20,919
But it was more...
But not on set.
591
00:22:20,965 --> 00:22:23,005
-Okay.
-You know, just, like, before I would go in,
592
00:22:23,051 --> 00:22:24,511
-you know what I mean?
-The off time.
593
00:22:24,552 --> 00:22:25,762
-Like...
-Go over the material with you.
594
00:22:25,804 --> 00:22:27,264
-Yeah, exactly.
-Got you. Got you.
595
00:22:27,305 --> 00:22:30,135
And then I started
kind of getting more into, like,
596
00:22:30,183 --> 00:22:31,853
trying to figure out,
like, how to...
597
00:22:31,893 --> 00:22:33,653
-My process.
-Okay.
598
00:22:33,687 --> 00:22:36,517
Um, and then, you know,
I did, like...
599
00:22:36,564 --> 00:22:38,444
Um...
600
00:22:38,483 --> 00:22:40,613
I guess what was after...
601
00:22:40,652 --> 00:22:43,572
I can't remember
if "My Best Friend's Wedding"
602
00:22:43,613 --> 00:22:45,703
-or "Head Above" came first.
-(exhales)
603
00:22:45,740 --> 00:22:47,200
-I think
"Best Friend's Wedding." -(exhales)
604
00:22:47,242 --> 00:22:50,952
Yeah. And then, um,
and then "Something About Mary."
605
00:22:50,995 --> 00:22:53,285
-I mean...
-So, by then, by "Something..."
606
00:22:53,331 --> 00:22:56,081
By "My Best Friend's Wedding,"
like, then I knew.
607
00:22:56,126 --> 00:22:57,536
People were like,
"Cameron Diaz!"
608
00:22:57,585 --> 00:22:59,295
-You know? Yeah.
-No, you're-you're...
609
00:22:59,337 --> 00:23:00,797
-You're poised
and polished at that point. -Yeah. Yeah.
610
00:23:00,839 --> 00:23:02,509
-Yeah.
-Like, you're-you're coming in
611
00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:04,089
not only knowing
what you're doing,
612
00:23:04,134 --> 00:23:05,934
-but you're really good
at the craft. -Yeah.
613
00:23:05,969 --> 00:23:07,719
And
"There's Something About Mary,"
614
00:23:07,762 --> 00:23:10,222
you're talking
about just comedic timing
615
00:23:10,265 --> 00:23:12,055
-at-at a very high level.
-Yeah, it was fun.
616
00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:14,140
-And working with Ben Stiller.
-I know. He's so great.
617
00:23:14,185 --> 00:23:16,145
At the time, like,
you know, that's Ben,
618
00:23:16,187 --> 00:23:17,807
-Ben in his prime-prime-prime.
-Yeah.
619
00:23:17,856 --> 00:23:19,516
Like, the movie was just full
620
00:23:19,566 --> 00:23:21,736
-of nothing but buttons
and punch lines. -Yeah. Yeah.
621
00:23:21,776 --> 00:23:25,486
To this day, I'm gonna say,
"Franks and beans..."
622
00:23:25,530 --> 00:23:27,160
-(laughs) "Franks and beans."
-"Franks and beans"
623
00:23:27,198 --> 00:23:30,828
is one of the best lines
that was not the line
624
00:23:30,869 --> 00:23:32,999
that I've ever heard in a movie,
625
00:23:33,038 --> 00:23:34,618
because Warren's
in the background.
626
00:23:34,664 --> 00:23:36,174
He's in the background
of that scene,
627
00:23:36,207 --> 00:23:38,497
and it's about Ben
on the stretcher,
628
00:23:38,543 --> 00:23:41,503
and you're putting him in,
and in the back, you just hear,
629
00:23:41,546 --> 00:23:43,966
-"Franks and beans." It's...
-"Franks and beans." (laughs)
630
00:23:44,007 --> 00:23:45,717
-And you see, like,
the earmuffs. -It's so good.
631
00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:48,299
-And he's, like, he's, like,
out of focus, kind of. -Yeah.
632
00:23:48,345 --> 00:23:52,515
-And it's... There's
so many gems in that movie. -Yeah.
633
00:23:52,557 --> 00:23:54,807
* *
634
00:24:05,111 --> 00:24:07,161
* *
635
00:24:08,865 --> 00:24:10,275
There's tiers to the...
636
00:24:10,325 --> 00:24:12,485
-to the movie star business,
right? -Mm-hmm.
637
00:24:12,535 --> 00:24:14,695
Like, you have...
you have the beginning tiers,
638
00:24:14,746 --> 00:24:16,206
which are
what we just discussed,
639
00:24:16,247 --> 00:24:18,247
which are great opportunities,
great movies.
640
00:24:18,291 --> 00:24:20,841
And I can only speak this way
because I understand.
641
00:24:20,877 --> 00:24:22,547
I've-I've been in it, as well.
642
00:24:22,587 --> 00:24:23,877
But then you start to cross
643
00:24:23,922 --> 00:24:26,762
this universal box office tier,
right?
644
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,010
Where you-you get
that-that project
645
00:24:29,052 --> 00:24:31,602
that puts you in every country,
646
00:24:31,638 --> 00:24:34,428
-and-and you're talking
hundreds of millions of dollars. -Yeah.
647
00:24:34,474 --> 00:24:37,274
-So, we're talking "Charlie's
Angels" at this point. -Yeah.
648
00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:39,850
KEVIN: And, you know,
at this point, it's...
649
00:24:39,896 --> 00:24:42,936
The monster is-is-is...
650
00:24:42,982 --> 00:24:46,242
We are in a full-blown,
like, machine
651
00:24:46,277 --> 00:24:48,277
-at this point, yeah.
-I mean, you...
652
00:24:48,321 --> 00:24:50,951
Did you expect that movie
to be what it was?
653
00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:53,080
Yeah, "Charlie's Angels" was...
Our in-intent
654
00:24:53,118 --> 00:24:54,908
was to make "Charlie's Angels"
655
00:24:54,953 --> 00:24:56,503
-be, you know, like, you know...
-Oh, my God.
656
00:24:56,538 --> 00:25:00,038
-We wanted to be
female action, you know? -Absolutely.
657
00:25:00,083 --> 00:25:01,423
-Yeah.
-And we wanted... It was very...
658
00:25:01,459 --> 00:25:03,499
For us, too, like,
we didn't use guns.
659
00:25:03,545 --> 00:25:05,005
-Mm-hmm.
-We didn't kill anybody.
660
00:25:05,046 --> 00:25:06,796
We were all, like...
It was hand-to-hand combat.
661
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,090
-It was our, you know,
our skill set, you know? -It's the best...
662
00:25:10,135 --> 00:25:11,635
-It's the best family...
-Yeah.
663
00:25:11,678 --> 00:25:13,638
-Mm-hmm.
-You-you checked all the boxes
664
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,600
to get families in the theater.
665
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,730
-The biggest...
I'll say this, okay? -Yeah.
666
00:25:17,767 --> 00:25:19,097
To everybody
watching this right now,
667
00:25:19,144 --> 00:25:21,904
the biggest goal
for any studio--
668
00:25:21,938 --> 00:25:25,108
uh, I won't say
for any actor or actress,
669
00:25:25,150 --> 00:25:27,780
but I'll say for a studio--
the-the biggest prize:
670
00:25:27,819 --> 00:25:30,199
if you can somehow do a project
671
00:25:30,238 --> 00:25:33,908
and it's a family project
where any and everybody can come
672
00:25:33,950 --> 00:25:35,660
-and they can see it together.
-Yeah.
673
00:25:35,702 --> 00:25:37,832
They can see it as husband and
wife, boyfriend and girlfriend.
674
00:25:37,871 --> 00:25:41,501
They can see it as mom, dad
with all the kids, aunt, uncle.
675
00:25:41,541 --> 00:25:44,591
Where you check the boxes where
anybody can come to a theater...
676
00:25:44,627 --> 00:25:48,337
-Mm-hmm.
-...that is a monumental project,
677
00:25:48,381 --> 00:25:50,471
and not many can do it.
678
00:25:50,508 --> 00:25:51,798
-Mm-mm.
-You did it,
679
00:25:51,843 --> 00:25:53,893
-and you guys did it.
-Yeah. We did.
680
00:25:53,928 --> 00:25:55,468
We had so much fun
doing it, too.
681
00:25:55,513 --> 00:25:57,433
-It was so perfectly casted.
-Yeah, it was so great.
682
00:25:57,474 --> 00:26:00,234
And Drew, you know,
Drew produced that.
683
00:26:00,268 --> 00:26:03,148
-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
-She created the opportunity, you know?
684
00:26:03,188 --> 00:26:05,818
And she was...
She got me on board,
685
00:26:05,857 --> 00:26:09,437
and it was
one of the best times,
686
00:26:09,486 --> 00:26:12,406
you know, making a film ever
that I've had.
687
00:26:12,447 --> 00:26:15,577
You go out.
You're now done, all right?
688
00:26:15,617 --> 00:26:16,987
Let's just fast-forward.
689
00:26:17,035 --> 00:26:18,195
Let's get back
to almost where we are now.
690
00:26:18,244 --> 00:26:19,874
-Mm-hmm.
-You decide to walk away.
691
00:26:19,913 --> 00:26:21,463
Mm-hmm.
692
00:26:21,498 --> 00:26:22,998
I know that you're in love
with motherhood.
693
00:26:23,041 --> 00:26:24,501
I know that you said,
"I kind of miss it."
694
00:26:24,542 --> 00:26:26,962
You said,
"I kind of miss it sometimes."
695
00:26:27,003 --> 00:26:29,303
I-I don't, actually, ever.
(laughing)
696
00:26:29,339 --> 00:26:31,299
I was gonna say,
in-in watching...
697
00:26:31,341 --> 00:26:33,391
No, I think about whether or not
I would do it again
698
00:26:33,426 --> 00:26:36,176
just to remind me
that I don't want to. (chuckles)
699
00:26:36,221 --> 00:26:38,221
I was gonna say,
you know what just hit me?
700
00:26:38,264 --> 00:26:40,854
-What's that?
-You got out the business
701
00:26:40,892 --> 00:26:43,852
-before the social media wave.
-Yes, I did.
702
00:26:43,895 --> 00:26:46,975
-Holy cow.
-(grunting rhythmically)
703
00:26:47,023 --> 00:26:48,903
Wait a second.
704
00:26:48,942 --> 00:26:51,612
Let's-let's all take a second
705
00:26:51,653 --> 00:26:56,493
-and truly acknowledge
what I just said. -(laughs)
706
00:26:56,533 --> 00:26:57,913
I know. Isn't it beautiful?
707
00:26:57,951 --> 00:26:59,791
-Cameron, you got out...
-I know.
708
00:26:59,828 --> 00:27:03,118
-Got out! I got out!
-...before...
709
00:27:03,164 --> 00:27:05,214
-(laughs)
-...before the wave of shit...
710
00:27:05,250 --> 00:27:07,590
-Yes!
-...that has come with social media.
711
00:27:07,627 --> 00:27:09,917
-By the way, good and bad.
-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
712
00:27:09,963 --> 00:27:11,763
-Right? There's good and bad.
-Mm-hmm. Yeah.
713
00:27:11,798 --> 00:27:13,378
-But you... It just hit me.
-Yeah.
714
00:27:13,425 --> 00:27:16,755
-It was just in time. Yeah.
-It was just, like...
715
00:27:16,803 --> 00:27:18,603
It was like,
"We were just tweeting."
716
00:27:18,638 --> 00:27:21,308
-Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
-"What is it? You get 150 characters?
717
00:27:21,349 --> 00:27:23,269
-I'll try it."
-(laughing)
718
00:27:23,309 --> 00:27:25,649
Yeah, "Today I ate pancakes"
was the beginning.
719
00:27:25,687 --> 00:27:27,647
-It's... Yeah.
-You're like... And next time...
720
00:27:27,689 --> 00:27:29,439
-And then you just go,
"Butter." (laughing) -"But..." Yeah.
721
00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:34,242
It's like,
"Hey, today, woke up on time."
722
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:35,699
-(whoops)
-"Who else?"
723
00:27:35,739 --> 00:27:37,409
-"Who else?" Ah!
-Ah! Yeah.
724
00:27:37,449 --> 00:27:39,329
-Man, what happened?
What's gonna happen? -Comments...
725
00:27:39,367 --> 00:27:40,867
-The comments are like,
"Me, too. Me, too." -"Oh, man,
726
00:27:40,910 --> 00:27:42,290
-look at this, man."
-Now they're like,
727
00:27:42,328 --> 00:27:43,618
"What are you talking about?
What do you mean,
728
00:27:43,663 --> 00:27:45,293
wak-waking up at the same...
right time?"
729
00:27:45,331 --> 00:27:46,541
No. In the beginning,
it wasn't anything bad.
730
00:27:46,583 --> 00:27:47,793
It was just... It was all happy.
731
00:27:47,834 --> 00:27:49,044
-"Me, too. Good morning."
-Oh, yeah.
732
00:27:49,085 --> 00:27:50,995
-You got out.
-Oh, my God. I did.
733
00:27:51,046 --> 00:27:53,006
(chuckles): But this
is my problem. This is...
734
00:27:53,048 --> 00:27:55,588
Like,
I was so reluctant to, like,
735
00:27:55,633 --> 00:27:57,763
-dip back into this shit.
-Your wine is really good, by the way.
736
00:27:57,802 --> 00:27:59,722
-Thank you.
It's delicious, isn't it? -Go ahead.
737
00:27:59,763 --> 00:28:01,773
-It's really good.
Seriously. Go ahead. -Thank you.
738
00:28:01,806 --> 00:28:03,516
Um, I...
739
00:28:03,558 --> 00:28:06,098
And, you know,
now with-with my wine,
740
00:28:06,144 --> 00:28:10,364
I, you know, try to engage
as much as possible,
741
00:28:10,398 --> 00:28:13,148
but I just really have zero...
742
00:28:13,193 --> 00:28:16,323
I have zero interest
743
00:28:16,363 --> 00:28:18,283
in showing...
sharing my life with people.
744
00:28:18,323 --> 00:28:19,913
-I don't think you should.
-(chuckles) It's, like...
745
00:28:19,949 --> 00:28:22,159
-I don't think you should.
-And it's so... It's so cool,
746
00:28:22,202 --> 00:28:23,662
because, like, I get it.
747
00:28:23,703 --> 00:28:26,503
Like, our marketing gals
who are social media gals,
748
00:28:26,539 --> 00:28:30,209
they're-they're amazing,
and they understand it.
749
00:28:30,251 --> 00:28:32,341
Like, they get
how to make this work.
750
00:28:32,379 --> 00:28:34,459
-Mm-hmm.
-And they'll be like, "How about if we...?"
751
00:28:34,506 --> 00:28:35,586
I'm like, "Nope."
752
00:28:35,632 --> 00:28:38,262
"If you wanted to..."
"Uh-uh. I don't."
753
00:28:38,301 --> 00:28:40,181
-(laughing)
-You shouldn't. But you shouldn't.
754
00:28:40,220 --> 00:28:42,310
-Like, I literally do not.
-You shouldn't.
755
00:28:42,347 --> 00:28:46,227
I-I think there is
such an amazing thing...
756
00:28:46,267 --> 00:28:48,557
-Mm-hmm.
-...in privacy...
757
00:28:48,603 --> 00:28:51,653
-Ugh! (exhales)
-...for those that have chose to...
758
00:28:51,690 --> 00:28:54,860
to truly, uh,
prioritize it, right?
759
00:28:54,901 --> 00:28:59,031
-Like, I'm-I'm on the opposite
side of the spectrum. -Yeah. Yeah.
760
00:28:59,072 --> 00:29:01,372
I'm as transparent as they come,
and I love it.
761
00:29:01,408 --> 00:29:03,698
-You know,
I take the good and the bad. -Yeah.
762
00:29:03,743 --> 00:29:05,413
That's why I'm always okay
if I step in shit
763
00:29:05,453 --> 00:29:07,043
-and it's still on my shoe
when I walk. -Mm-hmm.
764
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,040
I'm fine.
I open up for a reason,
765
00:29:09,082 --> 00:29:10,922
because my life
is about being open.
766
00:29:10,959 --> 00:29:13,209
-Mm-hmm.
-Whether it's through what you see on social media
767
00:29:13,253 --> 00:29:14,923
-or the stage, I'm an open book.
-Right.
768
00:29:14,963 --> 00:29:16,633
-Yeah.
-I tell stories about me
769
00:29:16,673 --> 00:29:18,343
-and who I am
and what I go through. -It's very brave.
770
00:29:18,383 --> 00:29:19,973
-It's very brave.
-It's-it's what...
771
00:29:20,010 --> 00:29:22,010
It's gonna make me or break me.
772
00:29:22,053 --> 00:29:24,263
* *
773
00:29:33,648 --> 00:29:35,688
* *
774
00:29:37,402 --> 00:29:40,282
Early on in my career,
775
00:29:40,321 --> 00:29:44,951
I kind of adapted the side
of "I want to know
776
00:29:44,993 --> 00:29:46,793
-and understand the business."
-Mm-hmm.
777
00:29:46,828 --> 00:29:50,668
-Right? How do I not just be
a work for hire? -Mm-hmm.
778
00:29:50,707 --> 00:29:52,957
And I was like,
there's so many actors
779
00:29:53,001 --> 00:29:54,461
and actresses
that are work for hires,
780
00:29:54,502 --> 00:29:58,382
and then, you know,
if the town says,
781
00:29:58,423 --> 00:30:00,013
"We don't want you no more,"
then you're done.
782
00:30:00,050 --> 00:30:02,470
How do... How will you work?
Like, what-what do you do?
783
00:30:02,510 --> 00:30:04,600
Like, is it back
to wherever you came from
784
00:30:04,637 --> 00:30:06,307
if you didn't manage your money?
I don't want that.
785
00:30:06,348 --> 00:30:08,058
So how do I get the business?
786
00:30:08,099 --> 00:30:11,439
-You did "Bad Teacher"
with Jason Segel. Right? -Mm-hmm. Yeah.
787
00:30:11,478 --> 00:30:13,148
-KEVIN: Jason Segal
a good friend of mine. -Mm-hmm.
788
00:30:13,188 --> 00:30:14,688
KEVIN:
And the conversations
789
00:30:14,731 --> 00:30:18,281
of Cameron Diaz's business
approach to "Bad Teacher."
790
00:30:18,318 --> 00:30:21,108
"Cameron took nothing up front.
She just did the movie."
791
00:30:21,154 --> 00:30:23,704
-"Cameron, in return,
got everything on the back." -Mm-hmm.
792
00:30:23,740 --> 00:30:25,950
-"That's why
Cameron left." Right? -Uh-huh.
793
00:30:25,992 --> 00:30:28,332
-Cameron and the numbers. I just
kept hearing bigger numbers. -Yeah.
794
00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:30,660
"Cameron walked away with this."
And, "No, no, no.
795
00:30:30,705 --> 00:30:32,245
"Cameron walked away
with this right here.
796
00:30:32,290 --> 00:30:34,210
"'Bad Teacher.'
She backed the truck up.
797
00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:35,920
That's why she left.
There was enough money..."
798
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,380
"Bad Teacher" was, like, a...
Like, I did four other movies
799
00:30:39,422 --> 00:30:41,262
or five other movies
after "Bad Teacher."
800
00:30:41,299 --> 00:30:43,639
-I'm telling you what I...
Listen, this is... -That's so funny.
801
00:30:43,677 --> 00:30:45,387
-I got to give you this
from the time. -Yeah.
802
00:30:45,428 --> 00:30:47,348
So, I keep hearing it.
I'm like, "She took nothing."
803
00:30:47,389 --> 00:30:49,179
(chuckles)
I-I didn't.
804
00:30:49,224 --> 00:30:50,854
-"She gambled. She gambled."
-Yeah, you...
805
00:30:50,892 --> 00:30:52,522
-I did that several times.
-"You got to...
806
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,400
-You got to take the back end."
-Mm-hmm.
807
00:30:54,437 --> 00:30:56,517
-"Cameron took the back end."
-Yeah.
808
00:30:56,564 --> 00:30:58,824
-"I'm gonna take the back end."
-You know what? You...
809
00:30:58,858 --> 00:31:00,238
Okay. And?
810
00:31:00,276 --> 00:31:02,196
-And of course. Yes.
-You take the back end.
811
00:31:02,237 --> 00:31:03,607
-Of course, yes. But I...
-Yeah.
812
00:31:03,655 --> 00:31:05,655
I not only did that
but I also knew
813
00:31:05,699 --> 00:31:08,449
-about
your creative involvement. -Mm-hmm.
814
00:31:08,493 --> 00:31:11,253
-Yeah.
-I knew about the producing hat.
815
00:31:11,287 --> 00:31:13,207
-Mm-hmm.
-I knew about how you were able
816
00:31:13,248 --> 00:31:16,328
-to put yourself in a position
to make those deals. -Mm-hmm.
817
00:31:16,376 --> 00:31:17,876
So, I went,
and I started doing research,
818
00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:22,879
but your-your business success
and trajectory,
819
00:31:22,924 --> 00:31:26,644
-it was a part of the ignition.
-Mm-hmm. Well, I'll tell you.
820
00:31:26,678 --> 00:31:28,558
The... So, you know
why I take the back end?
821
00:31:28,596 --> 00:31:32,426
-Mm-hmm.
-Because I really hated being...
822
00:31:32,475 --> 00:31:34,095
I hate...
First off, I go like this.
823
00:31:34,144 --> 00:31:36,774
"If you give me this
in the front
824
00:31:36,813 --> 00:31:39,733
"and you make that on the back,
I'm gonna be pissed off
825
00:31:39,774 --> 00:31:42,494
-because I helped you
make that in the back." -Mm-hmm.
826
00:31:42,527 --> 00:31:44,527
-I... Obviously, right?
-Mm-hmm.
827
00:31:44,571 --> 00:31:46,411
-Everybody takes a back end.
-Mm-hmm.
828
00:31:46,448 --> 00:31:48,908
But for me, I was like,
"I don't want a big paycheck.
829
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:50,910
"Let's-let's all share in this.
830
00:31:50,952 --> 00:31:54,412
If it's a success,
let's all really share in this."
831
00:31:54,456 --> 00:31:56,166
By the way, you know,
do you understand
832
00:31:56,207 --> 00:31:57,787
that that's a rare mindset?
833
00:31:57,834 --> 00:32:00,344
-Do you understand, like,
why it's a rare mindset? -Yeah.
834
00:32:00,378 --> 00:32:02,758
I-I think so.
I mean, it's-it's...
835
00:32:02,797 --> 00:32:04,667
-I don't...
-Give me your thought, I'll give you my thought.
836
00:32:04,716 --> 00:32:08,046
-Well, for me,
I don't care about the money. -Mm-hmm.
837
00:32:08,094 --> 00:32:09,514
Like, it's not really, like...
838
00:32:09,554 --> 00:32:12,774
-I've never done a movie
for the money. -Mm-hmm.
839
00:32:12,807 --> 00:32:15,597
I've made a lot
of money-making movies,
840
00:32:15,643 --> 00:32:19,523
-but I've never actually taken
a job for the money. -Mm-hmm.
841
00:32:19,564 --> 00:32:22,234
I've only taken it because
I wanted to make the movie,
842
00:32:22,275 --> 00:32:25,525
-and I wanted to work with
those actors and that director. -Love that.
843
00:32:25,570 --> 00:32:27,320
-That's it, ever.
-Love that.
844
00:32:27,364 --> 00:32:29,624
So, for me, I was like,
I don't want to take
845
00:32:29,657 --> 00:32:32,367
this big obnoxious number
in the front.
846
00:32:32,410 --> 00:32:35,040
I would rather get--
put it on the screen,
847
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,000
put in my energy,
put in my time,
848
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,210
put in the-the promotion,
849
00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:41,460
give it my all
and in the end of it,
850
00:32:41,503 --> 00:32:42,883
at the back end of it,
851
00:32:42,921 --> 00:32:45,721
I would like to take
my share of it there.
852
00:32:45,757 --> 00:32:48,047
-Mm. Mm-hmm.
-Because then I feel like I earned it.
853
00:32:48,093 --> 00:32:51,303
Then I know that I made the
money I deserved on this movie.
854
00:32:51,346 --> 00:32:54,636
-Instead of you paying me for
what I've made in other movies. -Mm.
855
00:32:54,683 --> 00:32:56,393
I want to make,
I want to get paid
856
00:32:56,434 --> 00:32:58,274
for what I d-do with this movie.
857
00:32:58,311 --> 00:33:00,521
So that was my mentality.
858
00:33:00,563 --> 00:33:03,193
-Okay. Mm-hmm.
-For me, intention is everything.
859
00:33:03,233 --> 00:33:05,693
Why are you doing
what you're doing it for?
860
00:33:05,735 --> 00:33:07,605
-Okay?
-That's-- You said that and that was... that was gold,
861
00:33:07,654 --> 00:33:09,664
about you saying that
you've never done anything
862
00:33:09,698 --> 00:33:11,198
-for the money.
-Mm-hmm.
863
00:33:11,241 --> 00:33:13,161
-Uh, it's always been
about the project. -Mm-hmm.
864
00:33:13,201 --> 00:33:16,831
-I wish that I could sit up here
and say the same thing. -Mm-hmm.
865
00:33:16,871 --> 00:33:19,621
But I didn't have...
866
00:33:19,666 --> 00:33:22,036
I didn't have the luxury
of making those decisions
867
00:33:22,085 --> 00:33:23,955
-early on, right?
-Right.
868
00:33:24,004 --> 00:33:26,554
So, if you look at
the early part of my career,
869
00:33:26,589 --> 00:33:28,429
I'll be honest, and I'll look
right in the camera,
870
00:33:28,466 --> 00:33:31,386
-there's a lot
of fucked shit, okay? -(laughs)
871
00:33:31,428 --> 00:33:33,258
I just want to be
perfectly clear.
872
00:33:33,304 --> 00:33:36,064
-Some of these titles,
I hope you never find. -Right.
873
00:33:36,099 --> 00:33:41,059
But I didn't have the luxury
of "I can't."
874
00:33:41,104 --> 00:33:42,734
-I had to.
-Mm-hmm. Right.
875
00:33:42,772 --> 00:33:45,442
-There was no...
There was no life -Sure. Mm-hmm.
876
00:33:45,483 --> 00:33:47,823
without said opportunity. I--
877
00:33:47,861 --> 00:33:50,031
-There's no way I'm
gonna pay these bills. -Right.
878
00:33:50,071 --> 00:33:52,411
-There's no way
I'm gonna feed myself. -Right.
879
00:33:52,449 --> 00:33:54,029
-Certainly.
-There's-there's no way.
880
00:33:54,075 --> 00:33:58,955
So once I had the opportunity
to make the choices...
881
00:33:58,997 --> 00:34:01,957
-For those-- the reasons that
you wanted to make it for. Yeah. -For-- Yes. For the reasons...
882
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,250
Then-then my-- The world changed
within my career.
883
00:34:05,295 --> 00:34:10,375
-Like you said, you're doing
movies based off of the project, -Mm-hmm.
884
00:34:10,425 --> 00:34:13,175
-based off of the talent,
based off of, -Right. Yeah.
885
00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:15,469
-you know, the opportunity
and not the finances. -Yeah.
886
00:34:15,513 --> 00:34:17,723
But I can't honestly
sit up here and say
887
00:34:17,766 --> 00:34:20,636
that I'm on par like you were,
888
00:34:20,685 --> 00:34:22,185
-because I didn't have
the luxury. -Yeah.
889
00:34:22,228 --> 00:34:23,768
-But I love what you said.
-Yeah.
890
00:34:23,813 --> 00:34:25,903
-But also,
it's still the intention. -Absolutely.
891
00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:27,610
So, like, the intention--
892
00:34:27,650 --> 00:34:30,570
There's a lot of people
who make decisions based off
893
00:34:30,612 --> 00:34:32,742
of how much money
and how much fame
894
00:34:32,781 --> 00:34:34,531
they think a part's gonna get,
bring them.
895
00:34:34,574 --> 00:34:37,584
-Absolutely.
-People-people who want to be rich and famous
896
00:34:37,619 --> 00:34:40,499
-as an actor
get rich and famous. -Mm-hmm.
897
00:34:40,538 --> 00:34:42,118
-That's not always a good thing.
-Mm-hmm.
898
00:34:42,165 --> 00:34:44,075
(laughs): You know what I mean?
Like, if that's your...
899
00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:47,745
if that's your goal,
then when you hit that peak,
900
00:34:47,796 --> 00:34:51,716
I am sorry, there is--
that peak is a--
901
00:34:51,758 --> 00:34:53,928
that's-that's basically
a thin line,
902
00:34:53,968 --> 00:34:57,558
and the next step you take is
off the other side.
903
00:34:57,597 --> 00:34:59,387
You know, for me it's about
904
00:34:59,432 --> 00:35:00,772
you're not making
those decisions
905
00:35:00,809 --> 00:35:02,229
because you just
wanted to be famous.
906
00:35:02,268 --> 00:35:03,598
You are an artist.
907
00:35:03,645 --> 00:35:05,855
You're--
You want to tell stories.
908
00:35:05,897 --> 00:35:08,567
You want to put energy
into the world.
909
00:35:08,608 --> 00:35:10,528
You want to have an impact
on people's lives.
910
00:35:10,568 --> 00:35:12,198
You want to engage people.
911
00:35:12,237 --> 00:35:15,947
You want to have, you know,
your-your Instagram followers
912
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:19,120
be a part of
your process in life
913
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,790
and engage and influence them.
914
00:35:20,829 --> 00:35:23,579
And hear it come back at you
and be able to be like,
915
00:35:23,623 --> 00:35:25,173
"It doesn't hurt me." Uh...
916
00:35:25,208 --> 00:35:27,128
You know, watching the
bullets speed by and being like,
917
00:35:27,168 --> 00:35:30,298
"Ha-ha-ha,"
that-that's what feeds you.
918
00:35:30,338 --> 00:35:31,668
That's a different thing.
919
00:35:31,715 --> 00:35:34,505
Some people only
just want to be able to walk
920
00:35:34,551 --> 00:35:36,641
down a red carpet
and go like, "Yeah,
921
00:35:36,678 --> 00:35:38,508
I'm the star of this movie,"
you know.
922
00:35:38,555 --> 00:35:41,265
And when that's your intention,
923
00:35:41,307 --> 00:35:42,807
that's when it's short-lived.
924
00:35:42,851 --> 00:35:45,851
That's when you-you exit
very quickly.
925
00:35:45,895 --> 00:35:47,935
* *
926
00:35:54,988 --> 00:35:57,028
* *
927
00:35:58,992 --> 00:36:01,582
-I said a joke
in my last special. -Mm-hmm.
928
00:36:01,619 --> 00:36:03,539
And I meant it.
I was like, you know...
929
00:36:03,580 --> 00:36:06,710
-I was referencing
people of today. -Mm-hmm.
930
00:36:06,750 --> 00:36:08,920
And with social media
et cetera, and I was like,
931
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,130
"You guys,
you fucked up fame."
932
00:36:12,172 --> 00:36:15,972
-Yeah. (chuckles)
-Like-like, you know, at one point it was...
933
00:36:16,009 --> 00:36:17,889
-Valuable. Uh-huh.
-Yeah, it was a thing.
934
00:36:17,927 --> 00:36:19,547
It was, it was a real thing.
935
00:36:19,596 --> 00:36:22,136
But now, you know,
people's approach
936
00:36:22,182 --> 00:36:27,102
in the-the road to it
and how it can be achieved
937
00:36:27,145 --> 00:36:30,605
-and what-what happens when--
Like, it's not... -Yeah.
938
00:36:30,648 --> 00:36:33,648
-it's not really the same.
-Well, reality TV fucked it up first.
939
00:36:33,693 --> 00:36:35,243
-Absolutely.
-Because reality TV
940
00:36:35,278 --> 00:36:38,068
actually gave people their
15 minutes of fame in mass.
941
00:36:38,114 --> 00:36:39,124
-Right?
-Yes.
942
00:36:39,157 --> 00:36:40,697
So, all of a sudden,
there was, like,
943
00:36:40,742 --> 00:36:42,242
100 people who were getting
their 15 minutes.
944
00:36:42,285 --> 00:36:44,615
-Yes.
-And they were all over the place.
945
00:36:44,662 --> 00:36:46,922
And then they pushed out
everybody else
946
00:36:46,956 --> 00:36:49,916
-who had, you know...
-It's weird...
947
00:36:49,959 --> 00:36:51,919
Here-Here's what it is.
It's weird...
948
00:36:51,961 --> 00:36:55,261
-And devalued it.
-Here's-- I would say this, right?
949
00:36:55,298 --> 00:36:58,218
So that we are...
950
00:36:58,259 --> 00:37:01,679
uplifting and supportive of
951
00:37:01,721 --> 00:37:03,261
people trying to figure out
how to make it.
952
00:37:03,306 --> 00:37:05,726
-Mm-hmm.
-If you-- if you're trying to figure it out,
953
00:37:05,767 --> 00:37:07,437
just like I said
in the beginning,
954
00:37:07,477 --> 00:37:09,477
-how I had to do those movies.
-Mm-hmm.
955
00:37:09,521 --> 00:37:11,061
I had to do those things.
956
00:37:11,106 --> 00:37:13,316
I didn't want to do...
"Who Passed the Potato Salad?"
957
00:37:13,358 --> 00:37:14,608
-(chuckles): Right.
-I didn't want to, you know, do...
958
00:37:14,651 --> 00:37:16,281
Is that an actual title?
959
00:37:16,319 --> 00:37:17,989
-Just mind your business,
Cameron? Okay? Just... -(laughs)
960
00:37:18,029 --> 00:37:19,409
I'm gonna look it up
as soon as I...
961
00:37:19,447 --> 00:37:21,117
Somebody have my phone?
962
00:37:21,157 --> 00:37:22,827
-Who has my phone?
I need to google. -Okay. You know, uh...
963
00:37:22,867 --> 00:37:24,617
I-I can go titles for days.
964
00:37:24,661 --> 00:37:25,831
-(laughing)
-I've done, you now...
965
00:37:25,870 --> 00:37:27,210
"Throw That Thing
to the Back..."
966
00:37:27,247 --> 00:37:29,707
I didn't want to do
these titles, all right?
967
00:37:29,749 --> 00:37:31,209
I didn't want to do
"Jack Don't Take Me Back."
968
00:37:31,251 --> 00:37:33,381
Wait, was-was-- Is "Pass Me
the Potato Salad," like,
969
00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:35,880
-an actual movie,
or was it like... -Listen, what I'm saying is,
970
00:37:35,922 --> 00:37:37,922
I didn't want to do
these titles.
971
00:37:37,966 --> 00:37:39,466
So, you know, I'm quite sure
972
00:37:39,509 --> 00:37:41,929
for a lot of these people
that go through these avenues,
973
00:37:41,970 --> 00:37:43,510
you know,
within the reality space,
974
00:37:43,555 --> 00:37:45,055
it's opportunities, right?
975
00:37:45,098 --> 00:37:46,308
And people are trying to use
the opportunity to get
976
00:37:46,349 --> 00:37:47,639
to the next point.
977
00:37:47,684 --> 00:37:49,144
But the one thing
that we can agree on is
978
00:37:49,185 --> 00:37:52,895
that within the space
of reality TV...
979
00:37:52,939 --> 00:37:56,899
It was such a volume of it
because it became the "it."
980
00:37:56,943 --> 00:38:00,783
And that volume of it,
it produced your...
981
00:38:00,822 --> 00:38:03,412
like you said,
people that got the 15 minutes.
982
00:38:03,450 --> 00:38:05,120
-Mm-hmm.
-And within that,
983
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,330
well, then social media
continued the rise.
984
00:38:07,370 --> 00:38:09,620
There were other people
that were getting hot there
985
00:38:09,664 --> 00:38:11,044
and it produced 15 minutes.
986
00:38:11,082 --> 00:38:14,672
So now the conversation
of this thing, well,
987
00:38:14,711 --> 00:38:16,501
-it's now being merged, right?
-Mm-hmm.
988
00:38:16,546 --> 00:38:20,676
It's-- Everybody's somehow being
considered in the same thing,
989
00:38:20,717 --> 00:38:22,427
and that's where it got
extremely messy.
990
00:38:22,469 --> 00:38:26,889
And within the mess of it,
you know, it-it...
991
00:38:26,931 --> 00:38:29,271
It's tougher.
It's tougher to manage.
992
00:38:29,309 --> 00:38:31,519
It's tougher to operate
and to navigate it.
993
00:38:31,561 --> 00:38:32,981
-Mm-hmm.
-And...
994
00:38:33,021 --> 00:38:35,481
I think the one thing
that I have to say to you
995
00:38:35,523 --> 00:38:39,613
in getting out when you
got out, you missed this time.
996
00:38:39,652 --> 00:38:41,202
And...
997
00:38:41,237 --> 00:38:44,817
it's a great thing
because you're only...
998
00:38:44,866 --> 00:38:48,786
-you're only viewed on this...
-Yeah.
999
00:38:48,828 --> 00:38:50,158
-...on this pedestal.
-Well, I--
1000
00:38:50,205 --> 00:38:51,865
This is what I've always said,
it's like,
1001
00:38:51,915 --> 00:38:54,875
I got here without that,
so I don't really need it now,
1002
00:38:54,918 --> 00:38:57,458
you know what I mean?
Like, I-I...
1003
00:38:57,504 --> 00:39:01,884
I-I got here
without ever using social media
1004
00:39:01,925 --> 00:39:04,255
as the platform that got me
1005
00:39:04,302 --> 00:39:07,512
any level of
my recognition, period.
1006
00:39:07,555 --> 00:39:11,175
-So I don't really need to
do it. -To do that. To do that.
1007
00:39:11,226 --> 00:39:12,476
-You know what I mean?
-Yeah. Yeah.
1008
00:39:12,519 --> 00:39:13,899
(clears throat) So...
1009
00:39:13,937 --> 00:39:16,057
I mean, I do.
I do a little of it, you know.
1010
00:39:16,106 --> 00:39:21,356
-Um, but I'm literally
doing the minimum. -I l-- I love it.
1011
00:39:21,403 --> 00:39:23,203
-(chuckles) You know?
-I love it, though. I love...
1012
00:39:23,238 --> 00:39:25,158
-I love the conversation.
I love the dialogue. -Yeah.
1013
00:39:25,198 --> 00:39:27,908
More importantly, I just love
where you are in your life.
1014
00:39:27,951 --> 00:39:29,701
-Thank you. Sure.
-Question for you.
1015
00:39:29,744 --> 00:39:32,664
Okay?
As we approach the ending...
1016
00:39:32,706 --> 00:39:34,326
-Mm-hmm.
-I realized another thing.
1017
00:39:34,374 --> 00:39:37,924
-What's that?
-Well, I haven't seen Cameron Diaz,
1018
00:39:37,961 --> 00:39:40,011
like, do an interview
in forever.
1019
00:39:40,046 --> 00:39:41,796
-So this is like...
-Yeah.
1020
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,510
-It's, like, the first
interview that you've done... -Yeah.
1021
00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:45,970
-in a extremely long time.
-Mm-hmm.
1022
00:39:46,011 --> 00:39:47,221
Okay? I'm gonna take that.
1023
00:39:47,262 --> 00:39:49,102
That's a...
that's a big deal to me.
1024
00:39:49,139 --> 00:39:51,139
-Well, this is what happened.
-That's a big deal.
1025
00:39:51,182 --> 00:39:53,772
I got a...
I got a email saying,
1026
00:39:53,810 --> 00:39:57,020
-"Kevin Hart is doing a show
called 'Hart to Heart.' -Mm-hmm.
1027
00:39:57,063 --> 00:39:59,363
Um, they asked you
if you want to come on."
1028
00:39:59,399 --> 00:40:03,649
And I went, "Huh.
That sounds like fun."
1029
00:40:03,695 --> 00:40:05,355
-Huh.
-And I went, "Sure."
1030
00:40:05,405 --> 00:40:07,525
If you gave me a "huh,"
that is the biggest thing.
1031
00:40:07,574 --> 00:40:09,744
-Huh. Kevin, huh?
-Yeah.
1032
00:40:09,784 --> 00:40:11,414
-Huh.
-I was like, "Kevin."
1033
00:40:11,453 --> 00:40:13,203
I was like, "Kevin Hart. Huh.
Yeah, that sounds like fun."
1034
00:40:13,246 --> 00:40:14,366
All right.
1035
00:40:14,414 --> 00:40:16,004
But I didn't even have to
think about it.
1036
00:40:16,041 --> 00:40:18,631
-I just said, "Huh. Yeah."
-Huh. You know what?
1037
00:40:18,668 --> 00:40:20,338
I'll do it. You know why?
1038
00:40:20,378 --> 00:40:22,298
-Because I don't have
to do fuck all. -That's right.
1039
00:40:22,339 --> 00:40:25,259
-And I only have to do
what I want to do. -What you want.
1040
00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:27,010
And I wanted to do this.
1041
00:40:27,052 --> 00:40:28,302
I'm gonna tell you
something else.
1042
00:40:28,345 --> 00:40:29,755
And I'm gonna be very honest
with you.
1043
00:40:29,804 --> 00:40:30,894
-Are you ready for this?
-Yeah. Mm-hmm.
1044
00:40:30,930 --> 00:40:32,720
-I'm a little tipsy.
-(laughs)
1045
00:40:32,766 --> 00:40:35,386
-I'm just gonna be honest here.
I'm-a be very honest. -Are you?
1046
00:40:35,435 --> 00:40:37,435
-Listen... No, no, no.
-You're doing really great.
1047
00:40:37,479 --> 00:40:39,649
-Remember how big
this glass was? -That was a really deep pour.
1048
00:40:39,689 --> 00:40:41,439
-It was like...
-It was a really big glass, right?
1049
00:40:41,483 --> 00:40:43,693
-This is how much it was,
right here. -No, no. Listen.
1050
00:40:43,735 --> 00:40:45,395
-(laughs)
-I want to be very honest.
1051
00:40:45,445 --> 00:40:47,525
I'm responsible
for the top half, right?
1052
00:40:47,572 --> 00:40:49,322
And as we were talking,
there was a moment
1053
00:40:49,366 --> 00:40:50,946
when I was gonna cross
my legs, and I didn't know--
1054
00:40:50,992 --> 00:40:52,412
I was like, "What am I doing?"
1055
00:40:52,452 --> 00:40:54,002
I was about to do this,
and I said, "Oh, wait.
1056
00:40:54,037 --> 00:40:55,867
Oh. I'm a little buzzed."
1057
00:40:55,914 --> 00:40:58,334
-(laughing)
-But it's such a good buzz.
1058
00:40:58,375 --> 00:41:00,915
-Isn't it so easy to drink?
-No, like, I'm-I'm serious.
1059
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,000
It's clean. It doesn't--
1060
00:41:03,046 --> 00:41:04,586
You're not, like...
you're not drunk.
1061
00:41:04,631 --> 00:41:08,011
You're just, like--
It's a nice little cozy warmth.
1062
00:41:08,051 --> 00:41:10,391
-It's-- Here's why I love wine.
-Yeah.
1063
00:41:10,428 --> 00:41:12,848
-There's two feelings
that you can get from wine. -Yeah.
1064
00:41:12,889 --> 00:41:14,559
Well, there's more than two,
but my two.
1065
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:17,439
Bad wine,
I can get, like, ugh.
1066
00:41:17,477 --> 00:41:19,597
-It's like, it's like
a kind of fog. -Yeah. Mm-hmm.
1067
00:41:19,646 --> 00:41:21,146
Like, ugh.
It was too much of that,
1068
00:41:21,189 --> 00:41:23,609
and I'm just like, I'm done.
Right?
1069
00:41:23,650 --> 00:41:25,940
Good wine, I feel tall.
1070
00:41:25,985 --> 00:41:28,315
-Right now...
-You-- (laughs)
1071
00:41:28,363 --> 00:41:30,703
I don't know if you guys are
picking up what I'm laying down.
1072
00:41:30,740 --> 00:41:33,700
I feel like my posture's
gotten better.
1073
00:41:33,743 --> 00:41:36,373
Right? My-my speech.
I don't know.
1074
00:41:36,413 --> 00:41:38,293
-Am I speaking French?
-Yeah. I could-- You were...
1075
00:41:38,331 --> 00:41:40,381
(stammering)
You're crystal clear.
1076
00:41:40,417 --> 00:41:42,207
-I think I've said
a couple French words. -Yes. You might have.
1077
00:41:42,252 --> 00:41:44,462
-I think... (laughs)
-"Comment allez-vous et vous?"
1078
00:41:44,504 --> 00:41:46,424
Huh? It's good wine. Um...
1079
00:41:46,464 --> 00:41:51,054
The-the great thing about that
is that with every serving...
1080
00:41:51,094 --> 00:41:53,264
-Mm-hmm.
-Like, there's zero sugar in a,
1081
00:41:53,304 --> 00:41:56,394
in a serving,
because we have no added sugar.
1082
00:41:56,433 --> 00:41:58,023
-I'll tell you what I feel.
-Tell me.
1083
00:41:58,059 --> 00:41:59,439
I feel honored. Uh...
1084
00:41:59,477 --> 00:42:01,397
I'm so appreciative
that you came on.
1085
00:42:01,438 --> 00:42:02,728
More importantly,
1086
00:42:02,772 --> 00:42:04,772
our first conversation was
an amazing conversation.
1087
00:42:04,816 --> 00:42:07,646
-It was. Really great.
-And it's one that I'm never gonna forget.
1088
00:42:07,694 --> 00:42:10,914
-Me, neither.
-You and I are going to talk further.
1089
00:42:10,947 --> 00:42:13,117
-Yes.
-And, yo, like,
1090
00:42:13,158 --> 00:42:14,618
you got a friend in me.
1091
00:42:14,659 --> 00:42:15,989
I-I've been a forever fan.
1092
00:42:16,036 --> 00:42:19,116
But now my respect is...
is through the roof,
1093
00:42:19,164 --> 00:42:20,874
-Aw.
-after hearing you talk the way you talk.
1094
00:42:20,915 --> 00:42:22,875
And I love that you did it
your way.
1095
00:42:22,917 --> 00:42:24,917
I love that you're
the mother that you are.
1096
00:42:24,961 --> 00:42:27,421
I love that you're hands-on
with your child,
1097
00:42:27,464 --> 00:42:30,844
and you're keeping that world in
a space where it's that world.
1098
00:42:30,884 --> 00:42:32,724
Uh, the same with your husband.
1099
00:42:32,761 --> 00:42:34,471
The same with your private life.
1100
00:42:34,512 --> 00:42:36,772
I-I give you your flowers
to your face.
1101
00:42:36,806 --> 00:42:39,056
-Don't change.
Keep it that way. -Thank you. You as well.
1102
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:40,940
And if you ever do decide
to come back to the business,
1103
00:42:40,977 --> 00:42:42,597
do a movie with me
and nobody else, okay?
1104
00:42:42,645 --> 00:42:44,015
(laughs):
Absolutely.
1105
00:42:44,064 --> 00:42:45,734
Nobody else.
Thank you so much.
1106
00:42:45,774 --> 00:42:47,904
-Thank you.
-Ladies and gentlemen, Cameron Diaz, huh?
1107
00:42:47,942 --> 00:42:49,532
-Thank you.
-Cameron Diaz, give me a hug.
1108
00:42:49,569 --> 00:42:51,199
-(groans)
-I would love to.
1109
00:42:51,237 --> 00:42:52,607
-(chuckles)
-That was good.
1110
00:42:52,655 --> 00:42:54,195
Thank you so much for having me.
1111
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,370
-Did I give a moose knuckle
when I stood up? -(laughs)
1112
00:42:56,409 --> 00:42:58,369
-Damn it!
-I hope I'm not giving camel toe.
1113
00:42:58,411 --> 00:43:00,411
-No, you're fine. It's me.
-Okay, good. All right, good.
1114
00:43:00,455 --> 00:43:02,455
* *
1115
00:43:03,333 --> 00:43:06,133
Okay, uh, I'm big
on life anecdotes.
1116
00:43:06,169 --> 00:43:07,459
You guys should know this
by now.
1117
00:43:07,504 --> 00:43:09,214
I think I've given out
several gems.
1118
00:43:09,255 --> 00:43:10,755
Today's is a special one,
1119
00:43:10,799 --> 00:43:12,379
so pay close attention.
1120
00:43:12,425 --> 00:43:15,965
Life is just like a rabbit:
sometimes you're gonna hop,
1121
00:43:16,012 --> 00:43:17,352
sometimes you're gonna
dig a hole.
1122
00:43:17,389 --> 00:43:20,139
What I'm saying is,
eat a carrot.
1123
00:43:23,311 --> 00:43:23,441
That's it.
1124
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