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I listen to Fleetwood Mac every day
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because artists like that
unlock the doors of perception.
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They connect you to a creative soul.
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In terms of being able to do music
across a multiplicity of genres,
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they're kind of incomparable.
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For me, it's the marriage
of those tones,
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both of the voices
but of the instruments.
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And what I love about Fleetwood Mac
is that no song
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is really a show-off song
for anyone.
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Everyone kind of gets their moment.
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They're the perfect example of
letting go
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and just, just
letting your thing flow.
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Where it leads, if you let it flow,
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is these songs that came out of
these different marriages.
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Well, Fleetwood Mac were invented
by Peter Green,
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who was a blues guitarist
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and part of the British
blues guitar explosion of the time.
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A kind of Clapton-y, Yardbirds
thing was going on around there,
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and he started Fleetwood Mac
and it's very much his baby.
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Peter Green recruited Mick Fleetwood
on drums and John McVie on bass,
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and they were the name -
Fleetwood Mac.
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They were huge.
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At one point they were selling
more than the Beatles
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and the Rolling Stones combined,
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and had a really big
hard-core blues following.
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Albatross changed that slightly
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in that they became
slightly more mainstream.
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But in doing that, it lost them
a lot of those hard-core blues fans,
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but it gained them
a lot of new fans.
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INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC: Albatross
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It sounds incredible,
even all these years later.
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It's just got that
classic Americana...
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..kind of dream pop,
dream-like vibe.
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But it also wouldn't feel out
of place on kind of...
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almost like a '90s chill-out album
as well.
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To have established a blues fan base
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and to then present them with this,
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I can't imagine it was well-received
by all of their fans.
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It certainly would
confound expectations.
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Certainly, I think, a lot of people
would be surprised
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if they heard
the entire back catalogue.
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I used to listen to a lot of kind of
rock and roll and punk music,
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and there's a Fleetwood Mac song,
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I think it's called Somebody's Going
to Get Their Head Kicked in Tonight.
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That's certainly the kind of,
the chorus of the main line.
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# Somebody's going to
get their head kicked in tonight. #
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And I just...
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I don't think
when I first heard that song
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I realised it was Fleetwood Mac
that sang it.
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Then when I realised it was
and it was the same people
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that sing, like, Everywhere,
I was just like,
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"What? That doesn't make sense."
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So, yeah, there's
lots of surprising gems
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in the Fleetwood Mac back catalogue.
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We're now going to do our
latest single, called Oh Well.
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# I can't help
about the shape I'm in
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# I can't sing, I ain't pretty
and my legs are thin
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# But don't ask me
what I think of you
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# I might not give the answer
that you want me to... #
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Guitars are
the coolest...instrument.
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Look at those guys!
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Look at them, they're having fun.
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They don't care that you're there.
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The way he's playing, the way his
fingers are, and they look so cool.
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# Now, when I talked to God
I knew he'd understand
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# He said, stick by me
and I'll be your guiding hand
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# But don't ask me
what I think of you
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# I might not give the answer
that you want me to. #
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It was very, erm, intense kind of
12-bar, it has to be 12-bar.
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The anorak crowd, the sort of
hard-core blues guys were like,
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"Oh, you're a sell-out."
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And with "Oh Well" as well,
they're already losing fans,
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haemorrhaging hard-core blues fans.
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They lost almost all
of their fan base in the UK
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and then they lose
their main songwriter.
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So they don't just lose their crowd,
they lose their main guy.
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Apparently, two band members,
Peter Green being one of them,
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had a bad acid trip in Germany,
this is the folklore of it.
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And after that, Peter Green
did not feel right.
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So at this point, obviously, Peter
Green just needs a really good rest.
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So Peter leaves
and you still have Mick and John,
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Fleetwood and Mac,
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who obviously want to continue
as a band.
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And so you have this kind of
almost barren period
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where they're not making music,
they're constantly searching
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and trying out new members.
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Then in comes Christine,
John's wife,
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who comes in on merit
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because she's an incredibly
accomplished songwriter,
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great keyboard player.
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Which led to this craziest luck
ever with Mick Fleetwood going
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into a studio in Los Angeles
to check out the studio,
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and the producer, like, puts on
a reel to show him what he can do,
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"This is what I last...
This is my latest thing."
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Apparently, Mick Fleetwood
heard a record by a duo called
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Buckingham Nicks,
so he asked them out for dinner.
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He invited Lindsey Buckingham,
the guitarist,
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to join Fleetwood Mac
and Lindsey Buckingham said,
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"Well, actually, I'm going out with
Stevie Nicks,"
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who is the other partner in
the duo, "We come as a package.
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"We don't go anywhere
without each other."
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So, unbeknownst to Mick Fleetwood,
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suddenly he's got Stevie Nicks
in the band.
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And probably this was a sort of,
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"Is she going to work? Is this going
to work? What are we going to do?"
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But actually, suddenly,
the magic happens.
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# Have mercy, baby
on a poor girl like me
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# You know, I'm falling, falling
Falling at your feet
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# I'm tingling right through
my head to my toes
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# So help me, help me, help me
make the feeling go
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# Cos when the loving starts
and the lights go down
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# And there's not
another living soul around
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# You woo me until the sun comes up
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# And you say that you love me
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# Have pity, baby
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# Just when I thought it was over
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# You got me running, running,
running for cover
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# I'm begging you
for a little sympathy
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# And if you use me again
it'll be the end of me
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# Cos when the loving starts
and the lights go down
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# There's not another little... #
Oh, look at that!
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# You woo me
until the sun comes up... #
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And they're so different voices,
as well.
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You know, Christine and Stevie's
voices are worlds apart.
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But together...
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..it's so special.
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So much of the success of
the songwriting has come from
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Stevie and Christine. Their talent
as performers and musicians,
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you know, no arguments there.
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But in terms of what went on,
in terms of the songwriting,
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I don't think they get the credit
that they're due for how much
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of the success of Fleetwood Mac
is due to them.
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# Baby, baby, hope you're
gonna stay away
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# Cos I'm getting weaker, weaker,
weaker every day
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# I guess I'm not as strong
as I used to be
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# And if you use me again
it'll be the end of me
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# Cos when the loving starts
and the lights go down
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# And there's not another
living soul around
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# You woo me until the sun comes up
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# And you say that you love me
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# Yes, when the loving starts
and the lights go down
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# There's not another
living soul around
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# You woo me until the sun comes up
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# And you say that you love me
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# Say that you love me
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# Say that you love me. #
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Rhiannon is written by Stevie Nicks,
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and I really think
it's a phenomenal song.
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It only reached 46 in the UK charts,
I believe,
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which is a shockingly low
chart position.
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In the Rolling Stone magazine vote
of the 500 top songs,
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it comes in at 488, which I think
is a very respectful place
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when you think of how many songs
there are in the world.
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But what I like about this song,
Stevie Nicks always introduces it
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as being about a Welsh witch.
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This is a song about a Welsh witch.
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# Rhiannon rings like a bell
through the night
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# And wouldn't you love to love her?
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# She rules her life
like a bird in flight
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# And who will be her lover?
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# All your life
you've never seen a woman
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# Taken by the wind
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# Would you stay
if she promised you heaven?
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# Will you ever win?
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# She is like a cat in the dark
and then she is the darkness
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# She rules her life
like a fine skylark
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# And when the sky is starless
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# Once in a million years
a lady like her rises
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# Rhiannon... #
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At the time, she was very much into
Welsh mythology
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and was starting to learn about
the goddess of horses,
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which is very prominent
in Welsh folklore.
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But it's the way she's written it.
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She writes in
a stream of consciousness,
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which really only
Stevie Nicks could do.
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She doesn't finish her phrases,
so she writes words that fit
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the musical phrase
more than they fit the sense,
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but it works
because that's how she writes.
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It's ingrained,
it's part of her DNA,
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she's not faking it.
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She's discovered what works
for her voice.
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# She rings like a bell
through the night
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# And wouldn't you love to love her?
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# She rules her life
like a bird in flight
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# And who will be her lover?
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# Once in a million years
a lady like her rises
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# Rhiannon, you cry when she's gone
and your life knows no answer
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# And your life knows no answer. #
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Stevie Nicks was the only member
of the band
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who didn't play an instrument,
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so she wrote in a different way
to everybody else.
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But she has this stage presence.
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She's 5'1" and she has that thing
of suddenly she's the focal point.
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I don't think they predicted
the success she would have,
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just as being an icon,
just as being herself.
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Yes, you can't mistake her
for anybody else.
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# Taken by, taken by the sky
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# Taken by, taken by the sky
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# Taken by, taken by the sky
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