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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:08,880 This programme contains some strong language. 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,960 As a small boy I was always intrigued with the moors 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,560 and I came across a magazine that had pictures of the moor. 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,720 I was always fascinated, 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,000 because it looked like another planet or the moon. 6 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,200 This is the valley of the rocks. 7 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,400 It's quite a mystical place. 8 00:00:53,720 --> 00:01:01,080 I first came to Exmoor when I had a camper van, ages ago. 9 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:07,560 I made a platform on the roof so I could put a telescope up there 10 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,600 and I used to go UFO spotting. 11 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,320 In November the skies are extraordinary. 12 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:17,720 The night skies, they're so rich with stars and heavens. 13 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,840 The reason I moved here in the first place is because it is so desolate. 14 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:40,400 Oh, it's invigorating, so quiet, a wonderful place to contemplate and meditate. 15 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,840 # I don't want to ball about like everybody else 16 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,800 # I don't want to live my life like everybody else 17 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,400 # And I will say that I feel fine like everybody else 18 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,400 # Cos I'm not like everybody else. # 19 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,960 # Mum would shout and scream when Dad would come home drunk 20 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,520 # When she asked him where he'd been 21 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,600 # He said up The Clissold Arms 22 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,400 # Chatting up some hussy But he didn't mean no harm 23 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,000 # Oh, Fortis Green 24 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,000 # Memories Of days when I was young 25 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,400 # It can only be a memory 26 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,360 # A time that now has gone. # 27 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:06,080 Our family was really a matriarchal system, family. 28 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,400 because my mum was the boss. 29 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,800 I had loads of aunties, my big gran, 30 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,400 as we used to call her - my mum's mum - had 21 kids. 31 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:21,360 She actually they looked a bit like Queen Victoria. 32 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,480 She would have come from that period. 33 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,560 There was eight of us. I was the youngest. 34 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,240 There were six sisters, my mum would spend all day delegating, 35 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,200 "You do that, that's your job, you do this." 36 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:41,200 My dad was like the hunter, if you like, going out to provide for his family. 37 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,240 We weren't very well off financially, 38 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,000 but I think that helped us. 39 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,760 It helped me gravitate towards things that were more important, 40 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,040 like family and the support that you get from family. 41 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,880 As a kid, I was always seeking for fun. 42 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:06,000 I used to get bored if people would get serious. 43 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,520 I was quite a wild kid. 44 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,960 My mum was constantly chasing me with a broomstick. 45 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:25,000 I was a mischievous kid, but it was seeking, I was looking for things. 46 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,560 I absolutely love it up here on the moor. 47 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,480 Early in the morning, about this time, 48 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,600 when you walk across the moor on your own, 49 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:50,160 and find a place that feels right, I sit and just reflect on things. 50 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,680 I love those old Sherlock Holmes films, 51 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,200 especially The Hounds Of The Baskervilles. 52 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,480 There is actually a legend about the Exmoor beast, 53 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,680 which supposedly roamed this whole terrain 54 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,280 out into the inner part of Exmoor. 55 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:21,400 It was cited as a black panther. They never really found evidence. 56 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,360 I like to think that it still roams the hills. 57 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:33,680 I was the sort of kid that was fascinated by things that were unusual. 58 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,760 There was a TV show on when we were kids, the first of the Quatermass. 59 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,720 You watched it behind a pillow, or behind the settee you know? 60 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,120 Trying to not see it, but you had to watch it. 61 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:56,560 There was this thing on the wireless called Journey Into Space. 62 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,400 # ..Hancock's Half Hour Luxembourg 63 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:10,880 # We'd sit for hours... # 64 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,160 My mum often used to finish a cup of tea 65 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,400 and turn the teacup back and there would be all the tea leaves. 66 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,520 She'd sit there and read, "Oh, there's a man in a black cape." 67 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:31,160 This was quite a normal thing to see my mum and sister sitting round a Ouija board 68 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,040 and put things on the glass. 69 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:38,320 Then us kids would be hiding behind the door somewhere, 70 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,160 thinking, "What the hell are they doing?" 71 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,560 I can remember the first day I went to school, when I was five. 72 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,920 My mum dragged me screaming up the road, 73 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,720 stuck me in this room with these other poor kids. 74 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,040 The teacher made me stack up these bricks. 75 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,600 After about half an hour I got so fed up 76 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,160 I knocked them down and I left school. 77 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:07,920 I came home and my mum said "David, what are you doing home?" 78 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,560 "I've been to school and I don't like it." And I thought that was it. 79 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:17,400 And one day, the teacher was blathering on about God and this, that and the other. 80 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,520 After God had made the trees and the flowers, 81 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,320 he made animals to go deep down inside the earth, didn't he? 82 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,880 Ants, and worms. Worm and flies. 83 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,560 I put my hand up and I said, 84 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:36,480 "Please, miss, if God made everything, who made God?" 85 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,120 "Oh, sit down David." 86 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,120 I was like "Hang on!" It made me feel stupid 87 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,440 cos I thought I'd said something wrong. 88 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,000 Afterwards I realised it was quite an important thing to say. 89 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,960 # Those great 90 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,840 # So great 91 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:05,680 # Young and innocent days. # 92 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,600 I wasn't content with things as they were, 93 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,160 I didn't trust teachers 94 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,960 because I always felt I was being talked down to. 95 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,240 I didn't like that, because at home, 96 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,680 everybody seemed like we were all getting on together 97 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:27,440 and it all kind of worked in a very natural, organic way. 98 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,600 The front room at Denmark Terrace was really the party room. 99 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,520 It had that funny old upright piano. 100 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,960 Typical Saturday night at the Davies' on Denmark Terrace 101 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,880 was always lots of music, 102 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,320 lots of laughter, lots of faces. 103 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,440 When I think back I always think of the Fellini films, 104 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:00,680 leering down at you and these big faces with teeth and great noses. 105 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:06,640 Character faces, laughter and loud and singing and drunk. 106 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:12,040 It was like, as a little kid, sort of sitting there, soaking it all up. 107 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,360 # My old man said follow the van 108 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,880 # And don't dilly-dally on the way 109 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,960 # Off went the cart with me old... # 110 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,280 Me mum would have a few drinks. 111 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:31,320 and she'd start singing the songs that affected her. 112 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,880 Whenever my mum sang, I always used to go quiet because 113 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,680 I could sense a lot of her inner pain. 114 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:45,920 People from that generation that went through two wars, 115 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,760 you didn't even say, "I love you." 116 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,160 like today everybody is kissy kissy. 117 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:56,000 In those days, they kept all their feelings to themselves. 118 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,080 And like the party was a way of letting it go. "Sod it!" 119 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:05,200 # St Theresa of the roses... # 120 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,160 When my mum used to sing, 121 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:13,800 I used to really listen, so much pain in there. 122 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Like, she was someone totally different, 123 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,320 her persona was totally different 124 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,240 from every day when, "Come on, David, it's time for school." 125 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,280 Totally different person so that intrigued me. 126 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,520 I learnt about love and affection from my sisters. 127 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:39,240 I think that was important to my growth and to Ray's I think. 128 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,320 That helped nurture the creative stuff going on inside us. 129 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,200 Guys get together going up the pub. 130 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,520 You didn't talk about things like love and beauty, 131 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,560 not in those sort of fairly harsh working class families. 132 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,400 We obviously saw a lot growing up, 133 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,760 you know, what women are like when they got... 134 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,400 I shouldn't say that. Cut! 135 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,480 Like female competition for guys and you know, 136 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,280 trying to make themselves look nicer than the other one. 137 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,680 # Sister's in the doorway 138 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,520 # Snogging with her bloke 139 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,320 # Scared to put the cat out 140 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,000 # In case I put him off his stroke 141 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,840 # But she wouldn't be denied 142 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,760 # I got a shilling as a bribe. # 143 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:43,760 I was 11 when my sister Rene died and it was like a trigger. 144 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,840 It really upset me profoundly. 145 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,840 They just had a body and they put it in a box and I saw it in the ground. 146 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,360 I thought, "That can't be... There must be more to life 147 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,880 "than just, ending up in the ground in a box." 148 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:11,960 I'm going to walk right across the moor to the sea 149 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,520 and then I'm going to swim all the way over to Wales. 150 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,000 # Big sky looked down on all the people looking up at the big sky 151 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,200 # Everybody's pushing one another around. # 152 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:35,000 That lilac and pink, blue and grey sky. Isn't that amazing or what? 153 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,680 Me and Ray as kids became close with football 154 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:47,880 because that was a very intuitive thing. 155 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,560 It was almost like telepathic thing. 156 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:55,560 Like I'd play on the left side of the field. He'd play on the right. 157 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:59,760 We kind of knew, you could see the picture of the game where it was going 158 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,600 and who was going to be where. 159 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,920 And music, even more so, because 160 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,800 we kind of both knew what the other was going to do. 161 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,520 So many times that we'd get together just jamming around. 162 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:23,720 In later years, like 13 or 14, I had a friend called George at school, 163 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,840 who was into guitar playing. 164 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,680 His dad died, his mum used to have to work, 165 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:33,760 so all day long, after nine o'clock, his house was empty. 166 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,520 I'd get ready for school, with a tie on and everything, 167 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,680 and we'd pretend to walk to school and just go to George's house. 168 00:13:42,680 --> 00:13:45,800 We'd sit there all day playing guitar, 169 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,360 listening to whatever we could get hold of. 170 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:52,720 Blues was a really big thing. 171 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,240 There was something in blues music 172 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,600 that resonated with us as working class kids. 173 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,360 It had an oppression in the music that was screaming to get out. 174 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,280 # Hah! Take this hammer 175 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:13,560 # Hah! And carry to the captain... # 176 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:18,000 Leadbelly was singing about how he couldn't get a job and you had to be 177 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,440 of a certain colour and a certain type of person 178 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,000 to get a job at some railway or on the buses or whatever. 179 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,920 Then we could see that happening with people... 180 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,840 uncles, people in our own family. 181 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,560 When Ray and I were learning guitar, 182 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:49,400 our styles developed differently, because Ray had few guitar lessons. 183 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,120 I never had guitar lessons. 184 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,960 Ray's first guitar was a Spanish guitar. 185 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,080 You have a rather common habit of leaning too much to the left. 186 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,760 He learned how to finger pick properly. 187 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,280 It was far too fussy for my taste. 188 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,240 I was very into like the rock and blues stuff, 189 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,720 like Eddie Cochran, Buddy Holly, Bert Weeden. 190 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,120 I was never that good at copying. 191 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,960 If I was trying to play Walk Don't Run... 192 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,240 ..it would kind of sound like it, but a few notes... 193 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,720 But I thought, "Oh, just do what I want" instead. 194 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,760 I learned five chords. 195 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,800 So I said, "Right, mastered that." 196 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:53,200 Ray and I's first public gig was in the pub. 197 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,800 It was opposite our house The Clissold Arms. 198 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,120 We got up and played Walk Don't Run, Apache. 199 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,040 That vibe you get with an audience, 200 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:09,200 I think that's when you realise there's something going on here. 201 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,800 Well, the Kinks really started from school, 202 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,280 when we first got together with Pete Quaife. 203 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,960 # Too much monkey business 204 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,760 # Too much monkey business 205 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,920 # Too much monkey business for me to be involved with you... # 206 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,760 Pete was really important to our musical growth. 207 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:37,400 Because he was kind of like in the middle of me and Ray all the time. 208 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:42,120 You could feel that there was a little bit of animosity going on. 209 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,400 Ray going, "I'm going to be better than you," 210 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,560 and Dave going "I'm going to be better than you. 211 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,120 Pete was a great eccentric. 212 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,400 Everything was larger than life. Everything was over the top. 213 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,360 He spent half his life lying. 214 00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:06,520 It was like exaggeration. 215 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,320 If it's not interesting enough make it up, sort of guy. 216 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,240 I loved it. 217 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,240 I didn't realise until like Pete died 218 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,240 what an incredible bond the three of us had, 219 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,920 me, Ray and Pete, before we were even the Kinks. 220 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,120 I didn't know Ray that well in a way because he had a lot of... 221 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:30,200 problems 222 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,960 and he was quiet and withdrawn. 223 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,520 I just thought that's the way he is and that's all right. 224 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,080 When you're brought up in a big family, 225 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,280 everybody's different anyway. 226 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,520 And he went to art school. 227 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,000 I was more into the jazz clubs and the clubs 228 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,560 and the social scene rather than into art. 229 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:59,600 What put me off art at school is I had this horrible art teacher. 230 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,880 I was just, you know, as you do, just messing around, 231 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,000 and she laughed at my painting. 232 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,480 I thought, "Fuck it, I ain't going to do it." 233 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,680 I refused to do art then. 234 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:24,120 The big thing for us was the El Toro coffee bar in Muswell Hill Broadway, 235 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:26,120 where all the kids used to hang out. 236 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:28,840 # Come on, pretty baby Let's move it and a groove it... # 237 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,680 My first purple hearts came here. 238 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,200 I got expelled from school when I was just 15, I think. 239 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,440 Cos I was caught in the woods with my girlfriend 240 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,920 with my trousers down. 241 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,320 # Let me tell you baby It's called rock and roll... # 242 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:52,800 I'm lying in bed for three weeks, thinking, "This is great." 243 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:58,040 And then my mum says, "Come on, you've got to look for a job." 244 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,200 I eventually got a job in a music shop 245 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:06,960 in Leicester Square, where they fixed woodwind and saxophones. 246 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:12,760 I learnt a lot about how little musicians take care of their instruments. 247 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,200 We had a clarinet in one day and it was filthy. 248 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,000 It stunk. 249 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,960 All the pads were rotten. 250 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,680 "Oh, it's Acker Bilk's clarinet!" 251 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:37,680 Pete Quaife was working at a place called The Outfitter in Charing Cross. 252 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,680 The Outfitter was a fashion mag 253 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,040 and Pete was really into graphic art. 254 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,720 He was a really good artist, cartoonist. 255 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,720 As well as a great musician. 256 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,240 # Have I the right to hold you? 257 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,320 # You know I always told you... # 258 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,920 Me and Pete became really close, 259 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,840 we would meet at lunchtime or after work and go and seek out 260 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,440 all the clothes shops in Kingley Street and Carnaby Street, 261 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,480 way before it became Carnaby Street! 262 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,920 # Come right back 263 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,920 # I just can't bear it 264 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,000 # I've got some love and I long to share it 265 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,440 # Come right back I'll show my love is strong 266 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,440 # Oh Oh yeah... # 267 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,080 The fashion thing for me was very much like, 268 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:39,200 if older people didn't approve, we must be doing something right. 269 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,160 She looks familiar, doesn't she? 270 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:47,200 To walk down that road with slightly long hair was frowned upon. 271 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,720 I would go to a clothes shop and just get the silliest hat 272 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,680 I could find and just stick it on my head. 273 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,880 And just... You know. 274 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:05,200 'No, that's not the hat, that's a device for measuring the exact confirmation of the head.' 275 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,360 # Everybody's going for those kinky boots 276 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,560 # Kinky boots 277 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:16,640 # Kinky boots. # 278 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,520 Women's fashions were a lot more interesting than men's. 279 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,040 'Undercarriage up.' 280 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:30,320 'Beverly, meanwhile, is in landing strip.' 281 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,920 I really liked the clothes that my girlfriends wore 282 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,680 and I used to try them on. 283 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,680 PVC I thought was really interesting and leather. 284 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:44,280 Mannello and Davey made me a pair of thigh-length boots. 285 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,040 # Leather is so kinky 286 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,360 # Come and get those kinky boots 287 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:51,720 # Boots, kinky boots! # 288 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,800 The way I was, the music and the girls 289 00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:00,240 and the self-expression and the clothes was all kind of interwoven, 290 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,240 all a part of the same adventure. 291 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,000 Because I was young, I couldn't get into the clubs, 292 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,120 they used to always let me in the back door. 293 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:12,680 The Piccadilly Club and Studio 51. 294 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,360 I went there one night and The Stones were playing. 295 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:19,400 # I'm going to love you night and day 296 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,960 # Well, you know my love will not fade away... # 297 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,600 Amazing. That was one of those moments. 298 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,440 Those "Uh" moments. 299 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,080 Me and Pete carried on playing together 300 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,360 while Ray was away at art school. 301 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:41,200 But, of course, we had a problem when Ray came back 302 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,320 into the fold, as it were. 303 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,600 We realised that if we were going to make a band, 304 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,480 we needed a singer. 305 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,800 None of us really knew that much about singing. 306 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,200 I always thought Ray should sing 307 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,240 because he could kind of mimic Buddy Holly quite good. 308 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,080 And we all liked Buddy. 309 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,920 As fate had it, we met two upper-class guys. 310 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,680 One was a stockbroker, Granville, 311 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,280 and the other one, Robert Wace. 312 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,680 I don't know if he came from an aristocratic family 313 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,640 or whether he faked it. 314 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,640 They were about 7'2" and still are. 315 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:32,280 They were rather sort of debonair and upper-class. 316 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,400 I remember Robert going to a restaurant 317 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:43,000 and ordering food and deliberately leaving half the food. 318 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,600 Cos that's what you did. 319 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,360 You didn't eat all your food. Whereas... 320 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:51,600 Whereas we'd go and eat and eat everything on the plate. 321 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,760 That was the way things were in our house. 322 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,200 If we didn't eat the food quick, someone else would have it. 323 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,360 Granville was looking for a band that could back up Robert 324 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:06,800 cos Robert fancied himself as a... 325 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:13,760 high-falutin' singer to impress all the debutants and his posh party friends. 326 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,880 # The changing of the guard 327 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,120 # We made our sacrifices 328 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:20,960 # We haven't got a butler or a maid... # 329 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,960 So we did a gig at the Grocer's Hall. Robert singing. 330 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,840 Us lot, The Ravens, playing. 331 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,880 We were doing a song called Rave On. 332 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,640 Robert was going, 333 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,120 POSH VOICE: # Rave on 334 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:41,400 # Rave on and tell me Tell me.. # 335 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,720 You know? In a really immaculate Saville Row suit. 336 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,280 And halfway through the song, 337 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,640 he hit the mic with his two front teeth 338 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,400 and he broke one of his teeth. 339 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:58,320 He runs off stage and we were still jamming away. 340 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,120 We thought someone's got to sing 341 00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:02,480 and I'm sort of going like this to Ray. 342 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,760 So, Ray goes up to the mic and starts singing Rave On. 343 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,120 And it seemed so natural. 344 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:12,520 The band was born out of that funny gig. 345 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,000 And Robert and Granville decided to be our managers. 346 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,960 We thought, this is great. 347 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,040 Maybe we're going to hit the big-time. 348 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,640 So you've got a bunch of kids playing instruments, 349 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,240 wanting to conquer the world. 350 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,600 We didn't know what we were doing. 351 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,160 We took on two managers who didn't know what they were doing either, 352 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,720 so it's a recipe for either greatness or disaster. 353 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,280 # Gonna tell Aunt Mary about Uncle John 354 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,200 # He said he got the blues but he had a lot of fun 355 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,920 # Oh, baby 356 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,920 # Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh baby 357 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,880 # Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh baby 358 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,960 # We're having some fun tonight... # 359 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,560 We were just kids struggling. 360 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,400 Struggling for identity, trying to do something that we wanted to do 361 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,760 but didn't quite know what it was. 362 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,360 I found the Kinks by accident. I was going to a Chinese restaurant on New Year's Eve 363 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:25,600 and I saw all sorts of people coming in. 364 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,280 Long-haired boys... 365 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,240 amplifiers moving in. 366 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,040 And, all of a sudden, out came the music. 367 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,080 It was a group known as The Ravens, 368 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,320 a little while later known as the Kinks. 369 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,200 And from then on, I couldn't wait to get my hands on the Kinks. 370 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,560 We got a deal with Pye Records. 371 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:55,280 Ray and I were so excited because we were going to be on the same label as The Searchers. 372 00:26:56,360 --> 00:26:59,520 # Sweets for my sweet Sugar for my honey... # 373 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,400 # Your first sweet kiss thrills me so... # 374 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:08,760 We were recording in the same studio so we thought, maybe we should do a couple of tunes like The Searchers. 375 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,840 One of our early singles before You Really Got Me was called You Still Want Me. 376 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:20,000 If you play it, you can imagine The Searchers in there somewhere. 377 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,480 # And you still want me 378 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,280 # And you still want me... # 379 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,120 But it flopped. 380 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,720 We had a couple of records and they flopped. 381 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,360 And... 382 00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:34,040 BIRD SQUAWKS 383 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,440 HE LAUGHS 384 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,360 # ..And the wind is blowing cold across the moors... # 385 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:45,360 At that time, like '63, all the amps 386 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:50,760 had more of a clean tune, almost, to them. 387 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,640 The Adventures and The Shadows, they were good, 388 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:59,160 but I was looking for something that had a bit more balls and bite to it. 389 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,960 And a more expressive, aggressive sound. 390 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,560 I was always messing around with stuff. 391 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,440 I found this amp in a store up the road from where we lived. 392 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,960 It was about that big. 393 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,760 About that big. 394 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,000 A little green called Elpico. 395 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,400 I plugged it in and messed around with it. 396 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:25,360 It was too weedy. It was the same old, same old. Ching, ching, ching. 397 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:30,320 I got so fed up with it I got a razor blade, a single-sided Gillette, 398 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:36,800 got hold of the back of the amp and I sliced the comb all way round, 399 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,600 so the combs remained intact. 400 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,480 SCRATCHING 401 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,040 I didn't think for a minute it was going to work 402 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,520 but I plugged it in... 403 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,560 DISCORDANT GUITAR CHORDS 404 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,640 DOGS BARK 405 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,120 I didn't know anything about electricity. 406 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,080 I did get a terrible shock. 407 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,760 It did throw me across the room. 408 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:05,440 My mum came up the kitchen - "What you doing?" 409 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,360 So this sound I developed was like an emotional platform for me. 410 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,880 It felt like me. 411 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,040 It was like an extension of my own inner rage. 412 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:28,520 You Really Got Me was really born in the front room in Denmark Terrace. 413 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,120 Ray, one day, he came in and started playing on the piano. 414 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:41,920 That lovely old upright piano we had, which had all the beer over it from all parties 415 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,720 and all the piss-ups. It was always just perfectly out of tune. 416 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,200 That was another key moment, I think, when I played it on my guitar. 417 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,400 MUSIC: Opening Chords to "You Really Got Me" 418 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,520 And that was it. It was like climbing Everest. 419 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,920 The moment of clarity. 420 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,960 Before, you felt insecure, and then the event happens and you feel whole again. 421 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,520 I've been looking for that wholeness all my life, 422 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,600 whether it was in music or in relationships 423 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,480 or in the universe 424 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,400 or inside or... 425 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,240 Where is it? 426 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:35,000 These cliffs are about 1,100 ft, the highest cliffs in Britain. 427 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,480 In Victorian times, if you wanted to get rid of your missus, 428 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,880 you could bring her here or on holiday and push them of the cliff! 429 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,400 WOMAN SCREAMS 430 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,720 "OK, darling. Want to come for a little walk along the coast path(?)" 431 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,640 LOUD SPLASH 432 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,520 Throughout the Kinks' career, I don't think people knew what to do with the Kinks. 433 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,080 'One lump or two?' 434 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:04,560 We went into record You Really Got Me, and it sounded horrendous. 435 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,920 I think Ray was furious. We were all furious, 436 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,120 the fact that it was sounding so...horrible. 437 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:19,480 # Girl, you really got me going 438 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:30,720 # You got me so-o-o- I don't know what I'm doing... # 439 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:37,720 We wanted to re-record it, three amps, three guitars, 440 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,520 a drum kit, set up in a room. 441 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,160 That's what we wanted it to sound like. 442 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,000 So Robert paid 200 quid for a session. 443 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:54,600 They allocated two hours in the studio, that was it - "Forget it, next." 444 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,360 WALTZ MUSIC PLAYS 445 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,960 Next. The problems I had trying to record my guitar sound. 446 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,600 People would say, "You can't record that...noise." 447 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:18,960 If it hadn't been for Robert and Ray being pissed off, it might not have got made. 448 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,640 # Girl, you really got me going 449 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,000 # You got me so I don't know what I'm doing 450 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,480 # Yeah, you really got me now 451 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,840 # You got me so I can't sleep at night 452 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,560 # Yeah, you really got me now 453 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,920 # You got me so I don't know what I'm doing 454 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,600 # Oh, yeah 455 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,960 # You really got me now 456 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,400 # You got me so I can't sleep at night 457 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,720 # You really got me You really got me 458 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,120 # You really got me. # 459 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,600 The first time that I heard it on Radio, I was in Greek Street 460 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,320 and I suddenly realised, this is something really special. 461 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,880 I think we lucked out of it, timing-wise. 462 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:11,080 It was just perfect timing for music to turn a different corner. 463 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,840 # ..You got me so I can't sleep at night 464 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,040 # You really got me. # 465 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,640 You Really Got Me was a very sexual sound. 466 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,160 # ..Ohhh... # 467 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,360 My first girlfriend was really jealous of my guitar, 468 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,400 because I used to take it to bed with me. 469 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,440 Just wanted to make sure it was OK. 470 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:59,360 A lot of young guitarists ask me questions about technique, 471 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,440 which I know virtually nothing about. 472 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,360 At that age, 15, 16, it would have been just pure rage, 473 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,360 or anger or, "What the hell?!" or panic, or all those things. 474 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,520 Aghhh! 475 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,480 You know? And it's all over with, it's only eight bars. 476 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,760 So, whew... 477 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,560 Only a crazy kid would play solo like that, 478 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,200 not a well-honed session man. 479 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,480 I mean, it's just pure. 480 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:34,480 I think the big thing about the Kinks is that we thought we were playing R'n'B, 481 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,920 but we were playing something nobody heard of before! 482 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,480 It was all so energy driven. 483 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,760 He doesn't sit back and think about anything. 484 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,200 It's just like, "Argh!" He just goes into it. 485 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,400 And that's the way he played guitar. 486 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,000 AUDIENCE SCREAMS 487 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,040 # I need you 488 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,720 # I need you more than birds need the sky 489 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,120 # I need you 490 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,640 # It's true, my little girl 491 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,720 # That you can lift the tears from my eyes 492 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,440 # But if you ever tell me goodbye 493 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,600 # I'll break down and you'll hear me cry 494 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,560 # I need you... # 495 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,240 It's wonderful to get that sort of acclaim and attention, 496 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:27,640 but there was an awful lot of jealousy towards the Kinks, or towards me and Ray. 497 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,880 Two scruffy kids - how dare they write music? 498 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,600 How dare they have success? 499 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,760 Ladies and gentlemen, at this point in the programme 500 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,640 it is my pleasure to present the awards to the Kinks 501 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,280 for the runner-up position in the Best New Group section. 502 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:53,160 Funnily enough, the Rolling Stones won the Best Newcomer award two years running. 503 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,920 For some reason, they just did not want to give it to the Kinks. 504 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:03,400 There was always a thing in the background - the Kinks didn't deserve it. 505 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,920 The guitarist can't string five chords together. 506 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:12,360 We were never in the club, we were outsiders because of a lot of things. 507 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:18,720 We didn't want to play the game. "You can join this club but there's rules." We never did that. 508 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:26,480 I thought that red hunting jackets were a bit of a silly idea at first until I put one on. 509 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,120 I thought "Hey! Cool." 510 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,120 It didn't feel like a uniform, it felt like a statement. 511 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,440 "Wow, makes me feel good. Maybe this ain't such a bad idea." 512 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,680 Robert was wonderful with that, really. 513 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,160 And Granville. 514 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,760 Because they came from that sort of background where you would go riding in Hyde Park. 515 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,440 It was quite common, it's what you do. 516 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,320 # I am a dull and simple lad 517 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,840 # Cannot tell water from champagne 518 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,760 # And I have never met the Queen 519 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,760 # And I wish I could have all that he has got... # 520 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:12,040 '60s girls often had long hair with a parting in the middle, like that. 521 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,160 I used to copy my girlfriends. 522 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,200 # Standing, standing 523 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,000 # We're gonna go now 524 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,680 # Who you gonna run to? # 525 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,800 I thought it was much more elegant to part the hair in the middle. 526 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,640 # ..You're chasing all the girls They can't resist your smile... # 527 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:39,440 One particular girlfriend I had had very long hair. She used to back-comb it 528 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,400 so it'd sort of come up like a little dome. 529 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,800 And I kind of did my hair like that. 530 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,440 # ..Pouring out your charm... # 531 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,600 I never really took it all that seriously 532 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:57,240 because I wanted to explore and express myself and have a good time. 533 00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:00,840 There was, like, a little clique of these guys. 534 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,080 There was Brian Jones, Keith Moon, Dave Davies. 535 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,360 Watch out when this lot get together. 536 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,200 I mean, it was really... 537 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,480 Wow, very wild. 538 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,520 If they thought of anything, they'd do it. 539 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,560 They wouldn't consider any kind of consequences at all, 540 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,160 so it would be quite wild, quite wild. 541 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,280 You have to remember, there were an awful lot of chicks to fuck at times. 542 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,600 I'm sorry. Hang on, I'll do it again. 543 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,760 I was 15. We had, all of a sudden, limelight and TV 544 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:38,000 and earning money and excitement. I just went with it. 545 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,520 I was well up for it. 546 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,080 The girls all over the place. I could do what I liked. 547 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:51,400 I was a young man who was very virile and I liked sex. 548 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,600 GUNSHOT 549 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,760 I had the world at my feet. 550 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,320 The world at my dick. 551 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,760 I had a close relationship with a guy called Michael Aldred. 552 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,960 He was one of the comperes on Ready Steady Go! 553 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,880 Me and Michael had a really great time, 554 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:21,480 because he had a wonderful sense of humour and he looked a bit like a young Dirk Bogarde. 555 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,480 So I thought he looked really cool, 556 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:29,840 and he thought I looked ready cool, so we became close friends. 557 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,880 But I found, after a while, 558 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:38,920 Michael was taking our relationship...quite seriously 559 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,560 and that's when I saw the other side of it and I thought, 560 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:48,200 "Shit, I can't take advantage of his feelings like this. 561 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,440 "I can't tell him I'm just exploring and having a bit of fun." 562 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,200 It was like a soap opera drama, or something. 563 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,280 I'd come home, I'd be out all day shopping, 564 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,320 I'd be in about ten pubs and come home at midnight, 565 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:07,800 out my brains drunk, and Michael Aldred was there, with his apron on, 566 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,280 like he was being housekeeper, housewife. 567 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,000 And the guy, you know, loved me. 568 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,920 He said..."David..." 569 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,520 I can't say it without laughing! 570 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,600 "David, your beans on toast are in the oven, and they're burned. 571 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,080 "And that's it!" 572 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,680 And I had to console him in the garden for, like, an hour. 573 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,320 I thought, "What the hell am I getting into? 574 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:40,880 "I can't... 575 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,080 "What am I doing?" 576 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,880 Isn't it amazing here? 577 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:58,520 If you look across that landscape there, you could almost be on a different planet. 578 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,080 What was a really magical thing was me and Ray when we sang together. 579 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:13,880 I've got quite a high voice and I used to sing octaves with Ray. 580 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:19,360 Despite us being different personalities, 581 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,600 our different voices complemented each other. 582 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,880 One of my favourite Kinks songs was See My Friends. 583 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,320 # See my friends 584 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,280 # See my friends 585 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,520 # Playing across the river... # 586 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:50,560 The droning sound that we achieved from a really cheap old guitar that was detuned. 587 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,880 It created this hypnotic drone 588 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,640 and it sounded very Eastern and sitar-like. 589 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,480 It can kind of put you into a meditative state. 590 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,320 # ..She is gone 591 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:15,200 # She is gone and now there's no-one there 592 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,240 # Except my friends 593 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,160 # Playing across the river 594 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:27,520 # She is gone... # 595 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,200 See My Friends really set a trend towards Indian music. 596 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:38,360 A lot of other bands started to buy the actual sitars and tablahs 597 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,680 and all the real Indian instruments 598 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,920 to try and duplicate the sound we got on a cheap, detuned guitar. 599 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,200 Sound and light is all energy, 600 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:13,480 and the vibrations just vibrate in different frequencies. 601 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,720 I've always loved being beside water. 602 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:23,080 Running water is very cleansing to your thoughts and your mind. 603 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,960 # They call me Long Tall Shorty 604 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:36,200 # Cos I know what love is all about... # 605 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,400 Here at the Shindig! are the fantastic Kinks! 606 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,000 # ..They call me Long Tall Shorty 607 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,520 # Cos I know what love is all about 608 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,880 # Well, I can tell you where the lights go 609 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,400 # Ooh, when they go out... # 610 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,800 When we first went to America, the audience were saying, "Fabulous," 611 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,880 audiences, but there was an older generation of Americans 612 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,400 that were very loath to get out of the '50s, 613 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,880 that really thought we were a threat, or something. 614 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:24,480 Because our music was a lot more aggressive and, I like to think, more sexual than the Beatles. 615 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,360 We were kind of a bit scruffy, a little bit wilder. 616 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:34,520 I had shoulder-length hair and, especially in Middle America or the South, 617 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,040 you'd get those slurs from Red Necks. 618 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,120 "Are you a boy or a girl?" 619 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,480 I'm both, actually. 620 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:51,080 And having a name like the Kinks doesn't really help. 621 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,600 But I loved it. I thrived on it, really, because I was a cheeky kid. 622 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,880 It seemed fun that people thought I was pissing them off. 623 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,360 # I'm a lover not a fighter 624 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,600 # Well, I'm a lover not a fighter 625 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,280 # Well, I'm a lover not a fighter 626 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,920 # And, man, I'm built for speed. # 627 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,720 On those shows like Shindig!, that we did in the States, 628 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:20,840 they were really heady times and it was very exciting. 629 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,880 I was 15, 16 years old, 630 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,760 playing in front of all these girls 631 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,560 and who knows how many millions of people were watching? 632 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:35,600 And I kind of just used to explode with excitement when I played my guitar. 633 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:47,320 You had Jimi Hendrix at that end, Noel Coward at the other end. 634 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,680 There was always me in the middle, rocking it back and forwards, you know? 635 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,800 I just thought it was being exciting and being expressive, 636 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,480 but I think they thought it was a bit sexual, maybe. 637 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,120 Like, "Maybe we shouldn't have this..." 638 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,240 We didn't realise how powerful the unions were. 639 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:13,600 Like, if they didn't like you, that was it. "You're out, mate." 640 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,920 Being banned from America was a big help for us. 641 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,040 We had to re-address the whole situation. 642 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,120 This could be a career, 643 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,640 and I should start learning how to play guitar! 644 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,600 Learn some scales and stuff, which is a real job. 645 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:43,880 There was a big shift in our music, moving away from those aggressive early, riff-driven songs, 646 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:49,200 and coming back home to our roots, Max Miller and stuff like that. 647 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,240 Stuff that our parents listened to. 648 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:58,640 # Friday evenings People get together 649 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,400 # Hiding from the weather 650 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,960 # Tea 651 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,600 # And toasted buttered currant buns 652 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,320 # How to compensate for lack of sun 653 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,360 # Because the summer's all gone 654 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,120 # La, la, la, la, la 655 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,080 # Oh, my poor rheumatic back 656 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:28,080 # Yes, yes, yes It's my autumn almanac... # 657 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,920 My mum and dad used to love to come to our shows. 658 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:36,280 We'd come off a big tour and go up the pub with my dad and his mates, play shove ha'penny. 659 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,040 You know? Darts and a pint. 660 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,440 # Mr Pleasant 661 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,480 # How is Mrs Pleasant? 662 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,800 # I hope the world is treating you right 663 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,280 # And your head's in the air 664 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,680 # And you're feeling so proud 665 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,120 # Because you're such a success 666 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:04,200 # And the whole wide world is on your side 667 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,400 # Hey, hey 668 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,240 # How are you today? 669 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,640 How's your father? How's your mother? 670 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,800 # How's your sister? How's your brother? 671 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:22,360 # How's your brand-new limousine? 24-inch TV screen? 672 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:27,240 # Is you like prosperity more than you like poverty? 673 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:30,920 # Life is easier now... # 674 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,280 A lot of the material was so heavily drawn from our background as kids. 675 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:45,400 A lot of the characters in early Kinks music was based on our own family. 676 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,600 Sometimes we teased Ray about some of the songs that he wrote. 677 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,160 It was really written by my family. 678 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:59,520 # Well, I said goodbye to Rosie Rooke this morning 679 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:05,680 # I'm going to miss her bloodshot, alcoholic eyes... # 680 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,960 He was writing about what I did a lot of the time, I'm sure of it. 681 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,920 Like Dandy. 682 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,720 I did the parting, and Ray wrote about it. 683 00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:21,120 He was Oscar, and I was Wilde. 684 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:26,720 Ray would often pick the phone up and say, "Dave, I've got an idea, da-da-da-da," you know? 685 00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:31,120 I'd come round and we'd sit round a piano and he'd play me... 686 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,560 ..a core riff. 687 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:43,440 You could always tell when something was going to really work. 688 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,680 It's a collaborative thing. 689 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:51,080 We trigger each other. "Yeah, that's really good. Yeah, we should do that." 690 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,680 It goes backwards and forwards. 691 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,240 # In the summertime... # 692 00:49:56,240 --> 00:50:00,920 I wanted to be supportive, helping each other, helping the family out, 693 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,920 and then Ray would come back a day or two later with the complete thing finished. 694 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:12,800 # ..Everybody's looking for the sun 695 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,760 # People strain their eyes to see 696 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,120 # But I see you and you see me 697 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,760 # And ain't that wonder? # 698 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,600 Ray can write a song about anything, 699 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,200 where I can't. It's got to be an emotion first. 700 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,960 # I've been crying all the winter 701 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,640 # I've been waiting for some good to come my way 702 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:55,000 # But I'll wait till the summer comes along 703 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,160 # Lord, have I done so much wrong? 704 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,360 When you're sitting down making a song, working on it, 705 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,920 are you trying to do anything other than enlarge your bank balance? 706 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,560 Um... Oh, definitely, you know. 707 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,360 It's not just strictly a commercial... Oh, no. ..venture? 708 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,440 Actually, if it was, I wouldn't be able to do it. 709 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,520 If I thought of it that way I wouldn't be able to do it. How do you think of it? 710 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:26,000 It's funny because, you're not going to believe me, but I don't think of it when I do it. 711 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,960 You sort of have a few drinks, you sit down, and you think of something 712 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:37,280 that somebody's said or a television programme you saw, say, somebody in Vietnam getting shot or something, 713 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,520 and it, sort of, forms a pattern in your brain. Like a dream. 714 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,600 Like playing, I suppose you can compare it to dreaming, as well. 715 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,280 Lots of things compressed 716 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,320 and it explodes. 717 00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:01,480 # You don't have to look at me 718 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,880 # You don't have to smile at me 719 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:08,080 # You just got to love me till the sun shines... # 720 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:14,720 I started to find, as the years get to about 67, 68, 721 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,920 I used to go in the studio and my hand ached, 722 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:22,960 from just drinking and pill-popping... 723 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,000 ...just burning the candle at both ends. 724 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,080 One day, you wake up and you think, 725 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,600 "What's the point? 726 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,480 "What am I doing?" 727 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:54,120 Death Of A Clown, I wrote in that same front room at the house. 728 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,760 The vibes in that room always felt happy to me. 729 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:02,240 My sister's got married and they came to the reception in that room, 730 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:04,640 and the family gatherings were happy. 731 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,400 It was like a focus of energy. 732 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,440 # My make up is dry 733 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,560 # And it clags round my chin 734 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:20,760 # I'm drowning my sorrows in whisky and gin 735 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:27,920 # The lion tamer's whip doesn't crack any more 736 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:33,680 # The lions, they won't bite and the tigers won't roar 737 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:42,000 # La la-la la la la-la la 738 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:48,920 # So let's go and drink to the death of a clown... # 739 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,280 The Death Of A Clown thing just came out of what I hit on the piano, 740 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,400 because I was in that mood of not being happy with 741 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:04,120 the situation in my life and feeling like it should be something else. 742 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:09,640 Those yearning feelings do stimulate you to want to write or play something. 743 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,840 So, I expressed it in a song. 744 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:19,640 # Let's all drink to the death of a clown.... # 745 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,280 It's about the solution. 746 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,240 I realised that going out, drink and drugs and girls - 747 00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:32,440 beautiful girls, as well, I might add - the lifestyle with it 748 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,280 was just like the analogy within a clown - 749 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,160 trying to make people laugh and in the end, just crying. 750 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:46,480 # So won't someone help me to break up this crown 751 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:51,800 Let's all drink to the death of a clown... # 752 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,520 Everybody wanted me to go solo. 753 00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,280 Robert and Grenville, especially, wanted me to go on tour. 754 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,520 They would do, with the money and stuff. 755 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,320 They kept saying I could be a huge success. 756 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,040 # Oh, Susannah's bedraggled 757 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,000 # But she still wears the locket round her neck 758 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:20,040 # She's got a picture on a table of a man who is young and able 759 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,520 # Oh, Susannah's gonna cry 760 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,000 # Oh, Susannah's still alive 761 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,360 # Whisky or gin, that's all right 762 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,600 # There's nothing in her bed at night 763 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,560 # She sleeps with the covers down hoping that somebody gets in 764 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:49,080 # It doesn't matter what she does She knows that she can't win 765 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,760 # Oh, Susannah's gonna cry... # 766 00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:03,440 I did put two or three solo singles out, without the Kinks, but I thought, "No, we're a family. 767 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,720 "Let's continue and see where it takes us." 768 00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:09,320 Let's hear it for Mr Death Of A Clown, Dave Davies. 769 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,040 APPLAUSE 770 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:18,880 Now, this thing about the rivalry between me and Ray, 771 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:24,840 I didn't know anything about, until I was about 18, 19, 20 years old. 772 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,160 Because it never struck me that there was any rivalry or jealousy. 773 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,680 So it came as a big surprise to me when people started to talk about it. 774 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:41,120 There's two mountain goats sparring up there. 775 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,640 # Sylvilla looked into her mirror 776 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,240 # Percilla looked into the washing machine 777 00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:57,520 # And the drudgery of being wed 778 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,200 # She was so jealous of her sister 779 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,280 # And her liberty and her smart young friends 780 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,400 # She was so jealous of her sister... # 781 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:18,000 I could say that I was a victim of a very abusive relationship, 782 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,920 but that's not really what we want to do, is it? No. 783 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,640 If we make a list of all the bad things that happen to us 784 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:31,120 and moan about them, it's really unproductive. 785 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:38,200 Even the people we don't like, or at times think we don't like, are there for a reason, 786 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,560 for our own personal growth. 787 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,880 The blame thing is unhelpful. 788 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:52,040 If there hadn't been bad times, I might not have got interested in spiritual things. 789 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:58,760 I'm thankful to have Ray as a brother, even though he's an arsehole, 790 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,680 because it made me look at life differently. 791 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,880 I thought, "He's my brother, I love him. 792 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,720 "He does something to me that I don't like, what do I do? 793 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:12,800 "Hit him over the head? Shoot him? What's the point of that?" 794 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,560 I can't change him. 795 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,280 # Picture yourself when you're getting old 796 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,520 # Sat by the fireside, a-pondering on 797 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,440 # Picture book Pictures of your mama 798 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,960 # Taken by your papa a long time ago 799 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,320 # Picture book of people with each other 800 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,160 # To prove they loved each other a long time ago... # 801 00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:01,120 After three years, when we could go back to the States again, 802 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,960 it was a totally, totally different mood. 803 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,920 It was like starting all over again. 804 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,520 Instead of all the little teeny girls screaming, 805 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,920 trying to rip your clothes off, there were all these grey-faced, 806 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,640 bearded men - not women. 807 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:24,920 Really dour, kind of down beaten, lying on the floor, 808 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,960 "Yeah, sure." 809 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,720 The bands were heavier and serious and darker. 810 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,680 It was a very dark period. 811 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,480 # I am the god of hellfire, and I bring you... 812 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,560 # Fire! I'll take you to burn... # 813 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,040 Rock and roll had a looming sort of feeling about it. 814 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,520 # Burn, burn, burn, burn! 815 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:55,480 # Ah ha ha ha ha! Ah ha ha ha ha... # 816 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,320 America went into that Vietnam zone, 817 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,680 and the mood and life 818 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,840 became very, very serious, all of a sudden. 819 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,640 These young people, instead of them partying and smoking dope, 820 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:17,800 wearing flowers in their hair, suddenly realised they were being called up to kill and get killed. 821 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,920 # Land of hope and Gloria 822 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,720 # Land of my Victoria 823 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,920 # Land of hope and Gloria 824 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,080 # Land of my Victoria... # 825 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:37,200 It was hard, because the support structure started to collapse, 826 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,120 with our management leaving. 827 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,040 Pip leaving. 828 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,600 It was kind of like in no-man's land. 829 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:56,880 We were so out of fashion, out of touch with what people were going through. 830 01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:02,080 Fortunately, there was a cult thing about the Kinks and it was weird. 831 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:06,560 The Americans seemed to pick up on that, where the English didn't. 832 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,600 JIMI HENDRIX GUITAR RIFF 833 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,880 The only time I spoke with Jimi Hendrix was when 834 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:20,400 we sat next to each other on a plane going to Sweden, for some TV thing. 835 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,280 He didn't talk a lot, but he said he thought 836 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:30,360 You Really Got Me, the guitar sound was a landmark guitar sound. 837 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,240 I always thought that, coming from him, that was, 838 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,080 you know, quite a compliment. 839 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:55,000 Mitch Mitchell, Jimi's drummer, lived for a while in my house that I rented in Muswell Hill. 840 01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:00,520 We went away on tour and he used to keep pigeons 841 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,160 under the bed. 842 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:07,000 Weird. When we got back, threw him out. 843 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,400 On the back of a so-called flop, 844 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,280 which I always regard as one of our best albums - 845 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,680 Arthur - we started to build up again. 846 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:28,920 I was thinking, "I don't think it's done yet, because people want this 847 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,680 "and if people want this, we must be doing something right." 848 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,920 # Well, sit by the fire in your Shangri-La... # 849 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:43,000 And I knew that Ray was going through an immensely creative, 850 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,000 as well as a destructive, period. 851 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,760 So I thought, "We've just got to ride it out." 852 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,840 I had a really, really bad time in 1973. 853 01:02:54,840 --> 01:03:00,000 It was obviously the drugs and stuff as well, but the sort of lifestyle. 854 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:05,400 You think, "What the hell am I doing flying on a plane, 855 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:10,560 "across the other side of the world? Horrible and I feel tired. 856 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:19,800 "Am I supposed to be a rock star? Is that what I'm supposed to do?" 857 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,080 We were playing a beer festival. 858 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:28,040 It was a beer-sponsored thing in New York. 859 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:32,320 I felt I was in a bad way. I could play, I could get by, 860 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:38,920 go back to the hotel room and then it started - hearing voices. 861 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,600 I'm thinking, "This is what mad people do." 862 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:48,600 I heard stories about this woman walking down the street talking to imaginary people. 863 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,760 I'd think, "Hey, fucking, hey." 864 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,480 I haven't really spoken in depth about it to many people 865 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:05,840 because it's being in the land of the insane, it's not a very nice place. 866 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:11,120 I was sitting in a hotel room, the whole of the day on Eighth Avenue, 867 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,800 looking out 868 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,440 and hearing these voices saying, "Jump out of the window." 869 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,280 It's like me saying to you, "Julian, come on, jump, jump. 870 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,120 "Go on, jump." 871 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,480 And there's nobody there. 872 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,280 My senses all kind of... 873 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:29,880 All over the place. 874 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:36,200 I'm trying to function, get up and sleep and trying to get up, 875 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:42,720 tune my guitar and I suddenly said, "Please let's get back to England, let's get back home, 876 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,680 "see what the fuck's going on here." 877 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,960 And it was awful. 878 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,440 I called it a psychic death. 879 01:04:55,120 --> 01:05:00,720 I felt that there must be ways to combat this, and Ray did, 880 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:06,320 trapped in his own hell, his own world, and I was trapped in mine. 881 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:12,200 We were brothers living only a few miles apart and we couldn't connect in that way. 882 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:17,880 I decided the only way that I was going to get out of this hell, 883 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:23,200 my own little private hell, was to work on it myself. 884 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:31,600 The mind's so easily persuaded in so many different directions. 885 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:39,160 Use the imagination to make it work for us, instead of against us. 886 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,920 It's restructuring your thought process - reprogramming. 887 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:49,320 When you feel, "I can't get out of bed, can't get out of bed, I'm too depressed." 888 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:54,440 It just drags you down and down and down, 889 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,560 into an abyss that some people can't get out of. 890 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,440 And there's the ruins of an old monastery. 891 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:16,920 I don't know if I can get up there, but quite an exceptional place. 892 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,440 I got interested in spiritualism. 893 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:31,280 I knew a bit about astrology and a bit about yoga and I thought, 894 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:36,640 "I'll get into a regime where I can do my yoga every day and do some meditation." 895 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:43,440 The yogis talk about working on the energy of the mind and knock it into shape, for Christ's sake. 896 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,760 I became more introvert. 897 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,000 From being, like, 898 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,760 out there, I was more like this. 899 01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:00,760 Sensitivity has a price and I think, all that money does, 900 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,720 it creates a moat around your life. 901 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,640 You might be sensitive, but you are protected from experience. 902 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,840 Although we were written off at this point, 903 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:19,680 the Kinks did succeed in coming back to conquer America again. 904 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,480 # And it's back where we started 905 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:27,880 # Here we go round again Here we go round again 906 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:33,720 # Back where you started Do it again, do it again... # 907 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,680 There's no such thing as failing at anything. 908 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,320 You don't fail, you have an experience. 909 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,480 It is a means to progress further. 910 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:07,160 I think Kinks' music is music of hope 911 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,720 and humour and reality. 912 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:19,320 People do fuck up, they do mess up, they trip up. 913 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:33,720 Martin, my eldest son, and I decided it would be cool 914 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:39,400 if we made a film about my mystical journey. 915 01:08:46,440 --> 01:08:54,400 An introduction to so many aspects of magic, the golden dawn, occultism, 916 01:08:54,400 --> 01:09:00,320 spiritualism and all the allied areas that you can investigate. 917 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:06,360 It has been a main thread throughout my life and career through the Kinks, anyway. 918 01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:11,600 It isn't like something I just woke up one day and thought, "Oh, that's interesting." 919 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:18,120 It's tying to understand mystical elements in our lives that are very real. 920 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:24,960 HE SINGS "JERUSALEM": # And did those feet in ancient times 921 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:32,920 # Walk upon England's mountain green?.. # 922 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,360 Sorry! 923 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:39,640 It is better for us to control our own minds than 924 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:45,160 someone else do it for us, like some organised religion might do. 925 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:52,360 The main battle we all have is about inside, with ourselves. 926 01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:57,680 I think, in the '70s, when I went through that bad time, I think 927 01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:02,000 when I went within, wondering if I could play any more, 928 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:08,520 kind of motivated me to think maybe I could use this energy for some sort of healing. 929 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,200 When you're playing music, 930 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:19,200 on the big stage with thousands and thousands of people, there is a helluva lot of energy flowing around 931 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,360 that auditorium that most people don't even know about. 932 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,640 It's what's entertainment is. 933 01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:33,360 It's about bringing people up and out of their isolation, 934 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,520 that they can join the party. 935 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,800 The Aschere Project is something I put together with my son Russell, 936 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,960 who is a very accomplished musician in his own right. 937 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:08,760 He sent me some ideas on MP3s. I went for a drive over Exmoor 938 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:13,680 and walked across the sea and I listened to this music and thought, 939 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,040 "I can see this story emerging." 940 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:26,240 # When you sleep I am there with you 941 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:34,840 # When you wake, I will protect you 942 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:43,480 # When you dream I will show you... # 943 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:52,160 It's a love story between a man and a woman that are separated by time and space. 944 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:56,840 The night skies in Exmoor, with the stars, inspired the thought 945 01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:02,760 of separation, the girls, one side of the universe, and the guys, stuck on earth. 946 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,600 They devise a mystical way to get back together. 947 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:15,640 If it gets a bit too way out, it's still just about love and lovers. 948 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:27,640 It's also the underlying thread in the album is the love between a father and a son working together. 949 01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:34,560 When you are actually immersed in a creative thing with your own son, 950 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,080 it is like joy. 951 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:47,800 All these ideas I get, if I can get them from here or here into a bit of 952 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:53,560 music and put some words with it, that is me functioning at my best. 953 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:05,600 Ray and I have talked about doing new Kinks recordings, but it doesn't feel right to me. 954 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,920 It's like trying to repaint a Rembrandt or something. 955 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,480 Those wonderful pieces of music weren't done like that. 956 01:13:13,480 --> 01:13:18,480 They sort of appeared through Ray's consciousness 957 01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:23,040 and my energy and the other people around us. 958 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:29,880 It's the imperfections that helped develop us as a spiritual being. 959 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,920 Getting back to that thing I was talking about earlier, 960 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:39,120 about finding those moments of clarity or moments of oneness. 961 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,360 Maybe a second, a split second. 962 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:48,840 # Waterloo sunset's fine Waterloo sunset's fine... # 963 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,840 So many times me and Ray have been on stage 964 01:13:53,840 --> 01:14:00,840 and something will happen and we'll look at each other and we'll know the whole atmosphere has changed. 965 01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:04,680 In a way, Ray and I were magicians, without realising it, 966 01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,480 purely because of that love bond. 967 01:14:07,480 --> 01:14:14,320 So, playing something together, it automatically had that love vibration. 968 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:19,760 Maybe it is good that you get two people that think totally different. 969 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,640 Because it is something opposite in front of us, 970 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:27,280 it helps us try and figure out how we fit into the whole thing. 971 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,440 # Waterloo sunset's fine. # 972 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,720 APPLAUSE 973 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:46,320 I once read somewhere that Ray said, if he had to do it all over again, he'd change every single thing. 974 01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:53,920 That's so amazingly funny or curious because I wouldn't change any of it. 975 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:05,480 # Where are you going to? I don't mind 976 01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:12,240 # I have killed my world and I have killed my time 977 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,640 # So where do I go? What will I see? 978 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:24,160 # I see many people coming after me 979 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:31,960 # So where you going to? I don't mind 980 01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:37,080 # And if I lived too long I'm afraid I'll die 981 01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:43,000 # To peace we find Tell you what I'll do 982 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:47,960 # Everything I own I will share with you 983 01:15:49,480 --> 01:15:53,400 # Strangers on this road, we are one 984 01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,240 # We are not two, we are one 985 01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:05,360 # Strangers, on this road, we are one 986 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,680 # We are not two, we are one 987 01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:22,080 # I'm not like everybody else 988 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:30,080 # I'm not like everybody else. # 989 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,120 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 84798

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