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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,520 (film rolling sound) 2 00:00:07,860 --> 00:00:13,910 (dramatic flute music) 3 00:00:17,030 --> 00:00:19,700 (ominous music) 4 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,010 (ominous music) 5 00:00:43,230 --> 00:00:47,270 - [Simon] Never in my wildest dreams 6 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:51,990 did I think when I told Gary something bad is gonna happen, 7 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,530 did I think it was gonna be this. 8 00:00:59,790 --> 00:01:01,120 - [Gal] I can't imagine 9 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,750 what Gary must have been going through 10 00:01:03,750 --> 00:01:05,250 and how he must have felt 11 00:01:05,250 --> 00:01:08,920 being so alone and so far out there. 12 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:15,090 - [Beverly] He said that the longer he stood 13 00:01:15,090 --> 00:01:16,260 and looked at it, 14 00:01:18,220 --> 00:01:22,480 the more spooked that he got the feeling of dread, 15 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,940 the sixth sense that he needed to get out of there. 16 00:01:25,940 --> 00:01:28,770 (thunder roaring) 17 00:02:09,650 --> 00:02:11,150 (thunder roars) 18 00:02:19,370 --> 00:02:22,200 (thunder roaring) 19 00:02:23,790 --> 00:02:25,790 (dramatic music) 20 00:02:55,650 --> 00:02:56,990 - I first knew something was wrong 21 00:02:56,990 --> 00:03:00,160 when I was on the phone with my publisher, 22 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,080 and Simon kept trying to call in. 23 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,370 And so once I was off the phone with my publisher, 24 00:03:06,370 --> 00:03:10,080 I called Simon who's Gary's roommate. 25 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,920 And he told me that Gary was two days late. 26 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:16,760 That's not Gary, 27 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:17,920 you know, Gary, 28 00:03:18,930 --> 00:03:21,340 would never leave Tuca that long, 29 00:03:21,340 --> 00:03:24,430 especially knowing that Simon had to go out of town. 30 00:03:24,430 --> 00:03:26,430 That's when I knew that there was something wrong, 31 00:03:26,430 --> 00:03:27,560 and I needed to get there. 32 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,400 So I packed up and left Panaca and headed straight to Ruth. 33 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,650 I needed to see what was going on 34 00:03:34,650 --> 00:03:37,030 and make sure that my brother was okay. 35 00:03:37,030 --> 00:03:39,490 And to take care of Tuca until he could get back. 36 00:03:42,530 --> 00:03:44,200 I really thought he would be back. 37 00:03:45,620 --> 00:03:50,120 - I first met Gary when they were having an event 38 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,460 at the Nevada Northern Railway. 39 00:03:52,460 --> 00:03:57,420 And we both just kind of, wandered in each other's paths, 40 00:03:57,420 --> 00:03:59,970 and started talking about trains, 41 00:03:59,970 --> 00:04:04,800 and, we were both looking for a place to stay. 42 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,350 I was trying to find a place for work, 43 00:04:06,350 --> 00:04:08,350 he was in between places, 44 00:04:08,350 --> 00:04:12,230 and we kind of just happened upon this place. 45 00:04:14,230 --> 00:04:17,440 - The first time I heard the name, Gary Hinge, 46 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:22,280 I believe was when I was working for the radio station NNN, 47 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:23,410 It was um.. 48 00:04:23,410 --> 00:04:24,950 I was an investigative reporter, 49 00:04:24,950 --> 00:04:26,780 it was my first job right out of the gate, 50 00:04:26,780 --> 00:04:28,870 and my producer came to me and he was like, 51 00:04:28,870 --> 00:04:30,450 we have to cover this, 52 00:04:30,450 --> 00:04:32,710 I think it's a good idea for us to do this, 53 00:04:32,710 --> 00:04:35,630 because the TV stations, the news, 54 00:04:35,630 --> 00:04:36,960 had stopped recording on it. 55 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,300 And so this was a way for us to get exclusives 56 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:40,510 and to keep the story going. 57 00:04:40,510 --> 00:04:43,630 Because according to everyone else that was hearing about it 58 00:04:43,630 --> 00:04:47,430 and reporting about it, it had just gone cold. 59 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:50,140 - If you want me to describe my brother Gary, 60 00:04:50,140 --> 00:04:54,520 the best way to describe him is, 61 00:04:55,650 --> 00:04:57,440 if there was a little lady that said, 62 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,480 can you please watch my purse, 63 00:05:00,570 --> 00:05:02,700 no matter where they were at, 64 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:06,780 Gary would sit there and he would watch her purse 65 00:05:06,780 --> 00:05:10,120 and make sure that it was safe until she came back. 66 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,410 That was just the type of person that he was, 67 00:05:12,410 --> 00:05:17,420 he was trustworthy and amazing. 68 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:19,840 Amazing. 69 00:05:21,630 --> 00:05:23,260 - So Gary loved the outdoors, 70 00:05:23,260 --> 00:05:26,970 I mean, he was the king of outdoors. 71 00:05:26,970 --> 00:05:28,010 Let's just say that. 72 00:05:28,010 --> 00:05:31,390 And I think a lot of people were really envious of him. 73 00:05:31,390 --> 00:05:34,270 Like he lived this beautiful adventurous life, 74 00:05:34,270 --> 00:05:39,020 that I think, those who have the nine to five job, 75 00:05:39,020 --> 00:05:40,230 stuck behind a desk, 76 00:05:40,230 --> 00:05:44,070 I think, really admired that about him. 77 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:48,780 - Super smart, but definitely private, 78 00:05:48,780 --> 00:05:51,200 he kind of just kept to himself. 79 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:56,210 If he wasn't in his room on his computer, 80 00:05:56,540 --> 00:05:59,340 then he was working on his model railroad. 81 00:06:01,550 --> 00:06:02,380 But other than that, 82 00:06:02,380 --> 00:06:05,010 yeah, just really kept to himself in his room 83 00:06:05,010 --> 00:06:06,220 making his videos. 84 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:09,970 Super funny, though (chuckles slightly) 85 00:06:09,970 --> 00:06:11,890 definitely could make you laugh 86 00:06:11,890 --> 00:06:13,890 with a couple of his one liners. 87 00:06:15,060 --> 00:06:17,060 (uplifting music) 88 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,070 - I started to learn more about who Gary was. 89 00:06:21,070 --> 00:06:21,900 And I found out 90 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:25,150 that he was an extremely highly intelligent man. 91 00:06:26,070 --> 00:06:28,530 He's one of those people that was so smart 92 00:06:28,530 --> 00:06:32,410 that kind of had a hard time connecting with other people. 93 00:06:33,370 --> 00:06:37,540 So he mostly just kind of was more, solitude, 94 00:06:37,540 --> 00:06:41,790 and yeah, fascinating. 95 00:06:41,790 --> 00:06:43,170 The more I found out about him, 96 00:06:43,170 --> 00:06:48,180 the more I wanted to keep finding out about, who is Gary? 97 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:52,350 (uplifting music) 98 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,030 Gary had found his dream job, 99 00:07:05,030 --> 00:07:07,320 being such an avid outdoors man, 100 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,820 he started to work for a startup company called Map Nevada. 101 00:07:11,820 --> 00:07:13,830 Now what they do is, 102 00:07:13,830 --> 00:07:17,910 they map out really remote locations for hunters. 103 00:07:17,910 --> 00:07:22,920 So they track wildlife, weather, terrain, 104 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,880 and I mean, Gary was in heaven doing this. 105 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,890 - He loved to be by himself out in the wilderness, 106 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,560 he loved hiking, 107 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,350 and being adventurous, 108 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,440 any train, he was drawn to, he loved trains. 109 00:07:47,610 --> 00:07:50,610 (ballast clattering) 110 00:07:50,610 --> 00:07:54,620 - [Gary] Hey guys filming another little YouTube video, 111 00:07:54,620 --> 00:07:57,370 at one of my favorite places. 112 00:07:57,370 --> 00:08:01,620 If I had more time I would become one of the volunteers, 113 00:08:01,620 --> 00:08:06,590 but this is the Nevada Northern Railway Museum, here in Ely. 114 00:08:06,590 --> 00:08:09,550 And it's kind of an old little copper mine 115 00:08:09,550 --> 00:08:11,840 just preserved and left. 116 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,090 They do some cool stuff, though, 117 00:08:13,090 --> 00:08:17,810 like you can sleep in this old caboose from Kennecott, 118 00:08:17,810 --> 00:08:20,310 the big copper mine in the area, 119 00:08:20,310 --> 00:08:21,980 right outside my home in Ruth. 120 00:08:23,310 --> 00:08:25,650 It's kind of a neat little railroad museum, 121 00:08:25,650 --> 00:08:27,690 they just kind of let you walk around. 122 00:08:29,740 --> 00:08:33,200 And you know how much I love trains on top of hiking, 123 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,660 gotta do something in the winter time 124 00:08:34,660 --> 00:08:37,740 and you can't be outside as much. 125 00:08:37,740 --> 00:08:40,370 - So I was really excited to take on this story, 126 00:08:40,370 --> 00:08:42,330 seeing that it was my first story. 127 00:08:42,330 --> 00:08:43,830 And it also took place 128 00:08:43,830 --> 00:08:46,250 in this tiny little town called Ruth. 129 00:08:46,250 --> 00:08:49,170 And so I grabbed the phone book, and I just started calling. 130 00:08:49,170 --> 00:08:51,130 And I wanted to talk to anybody and everybody 131 00:08:51,130 --> 00:08:52,220 that would talk to me. 132 00:08:54,470 --> 00:08:56,640 - I first knew something was off 133 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,470 when he asked me to watch his dog Tuca 134 00:08:59,470 --> 00:09:02,730 before he went out on one of his trips. 135 00:09:02,730 --> 00:09:05,060 And he never leaves Tuca. 136 00:09:05,060 --> 00:09:07,230 He always takes the dog with him, 137 00:09:07,230 --> 00:09:09,190 so I thought that was kind of weird. 138 00:09:09,190 --> 00:09:11,400 And he was acting super stressed out 139 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,200 even keeping to himself even more. 140 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,990 When he didn't come back after two days, 141 00:09:19,540 --> 00:09:21,700 I thought that was really strange. 142 00:09:21,700 --> 00:09:23,080 I had a flight to catch, 143 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,500 so I just called Beverly to get the dog. 144 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:29,040 - After I got off the phone with Simon, 145 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,210 I tried Gary, and there was no answer, 146 00:09:32,210 --> 00:09:36,300 so I hurried and left and I went to Ruth from Panaca. 147 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:40,350 And it's only a couple hours away, 148 00:09:40,350 --> 00:09:42,220 so when I got there, 149 00:09:42,220 --> 00:09:45,560 Simon and Tuca were waiting on the front steps. 150 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:48,230 Simon really needed to get to the airport in Las Vegas, 151 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:51,650 so I asked him where Gary had gone to, 152 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,700 and Simon didn't know, his roommate didn't even know, 153 00:09:57,700 --> 00:10:00,240 he just knew that he was on an expedition. 154 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,580 To me that wasn't right, 155 00:10:01,580 --> 00:10:03,790 so I tried Gary a couple of more times, 156 00:10:03,790 --> 00:10:05,500 and all it did was go to voicemail 157 00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:10,090 and something was definitely wrong. 158 00:10:10,090 --> 00:10:12,840 And so I called the police and waited. 159 00:10:14,470 --> 00:10:16,470 (mysterious music) 160 00:10:22,060 --> 00:10:23,770 - So I got Beverley's phone number, 161 00:10:23,770 --> 00:10:26,690 and this is the only time that I ever talked to her. 162 00:10:26,690 --> 00:10:30,810 And she was pretty angry with me, 163 00:10:30,810 --> 00:10:32,940 once I told her that I was a reporter. 164 00:10:34,490 --> 00:10:36,490 And she did not want to have anything to do with me 165 00:10:36,490 --> 00:10:39,370 or our show, which I thought was really unfortunate, 166 00:10:39,370 --> 00:10:41,780 because, the news stations, 167 00:10:41,780 --> 00:10:43,700 they had stopped recording on this, 168 00:10:43,700 --> 00:10:45,830 and we were the only ones doing anything, 169 00:10:45,830 --> 00:10:48,290 and I thought this is a way to help find your brother, 170 00:10:48,290 --> 00:10:49,630 I don't understand why 171 00:10:49,630 --> 00:10:51,170 you don't want to give me the time or day, 172 00:10:51,170 --> 00:10:53,590 but she didn't, and she quickly hung up. 173 00:10:53,590 --> 00:10:56,510 And that was the only time that I spoke to Beverly. 174 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,890 - Gary became so obsessed with survivalism, 175 00:11:01,890 --> 00:11:04,850 he would watch the Discovery Channel, 176 00:11:04,850 --> 00:11:07,730 he would watch YouTube, 177 00:11:07,730 --> 00:11:12,230 he would study it and find the most remote places, 178 00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:16,400 no cell service, no provisions of any kind 179 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,530 other than what he took. 180 00:11:18,530 --> 00:11:23,490 And it used to scare the heavens out of me. 181 00:11:23,660 --> 00:11:26,200 I mean, I was petrified for him, 182 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,910 and I would worry so much. 183 00:11:27,910 --> 00:11:30,210 But after a while, 184 00:11:31,830 --> 00:11:33,040 it was Gary. 185 00:11:34,670 --> 00:11:37,840 - [Gary] So guys, I'm here hiking around, 186 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,140 and this is one of the cool secrets 187 00:11:41,140 --> 00:11:42,850 I have in the wilds in Nevada 188 00:11:42,850 --> 00:11:47,810 is this cemetery from the late 1800s old mining camp, 189 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:54,440 but I won't disclose the name for safety reasons. 190 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,150 Don't want anyone getting lost out here, 191 00:11:56,150 --> 00:12:01,160 but you can see all these old graves, wood stones, 192 00:12:01,910 --> 00:12:04,990 unmarked graves with no names now. 193 00:12:06,540 --> 00:12:08,370 Give you an idea of where I had to hike from 194 00:12:08,370 --> 00:12:11,710 is that mountain way over there 195 00:12:11,710 --> 00:12:14,960 is my truck's on the other side of it. 196 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,710 So hiked over that mountain 197 00:12:17,710 --> 00:12:22,680 and I'm way out this way now, hiking around. 198 00:12:22,680 --> 00:12:27,680 - I wouldn't say what Gary was doing was hiking. 199 00:12:28,310 --> 00:12:33,270 These were multiple day, like survival excursions. 200 00:12:35,310 --> 00:12:36,940 - In the beginning, what gave me hope 201 00:12:36,940 --> 00:12:41,950 was the fact that when Gary was much younger, 202 00:12:43,610 --> 00:12:46,160 much, much younger, like second grade, 203 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:51,160 we all went camping, and Gary disappeared from the campsite. 204 00:12:52,460 --> 00:12:56,080 And we searched for him and searched for him, 205 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,590 and we were all so worried, mom and dad were just terrified, 206 00:12:59,590 --> 00:13:01,550 I was terrified. 207 00:13:01,550 --> 00:13:02,760 We didn't wanna leave the mountain 208 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,720 to go and get cell service or anything, 209 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,680 we just went looking for him. 210 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:11,520 And we looked for him all night. 211 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:16,480 And the next morning we came up to a sheep herders camp, 212 00:13:16,650 --> 00:13:18,820 thinking, we're gonna tell them look, 213 00:13:18,820 --> 00:13:20,940 keep an eye out for this second grader, 214 00:13:20,940 --> 00:13:25,320 this second grader that was missing 215 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:30,240 and we walk up and there is my little brother Gary, 216 00:13:31,290 --> 00:13:33,960 playing with the animals. 217 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,080 He'd known that if he got to the sheep herders camp, 218 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:37,920 he would be okay, 219 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,550 that mom and dad would come and look for him. 220 00:13:40,550 --> 00:13:45,550 And he was so resilient, it was in him, second nature. 221 00:13:47,890 --> 00:13:49,970 - So after speaking to a bunch of people in Ruth, 222 00:13:49,970 --> 00:13:53,060 I started to learn a little bit more about Beverly 223 00:13:53,060 --> 00:13:57,480 and Beverly's relationship with Gary in the past. 224 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,440 So she had a lot of anger towards Gary. 225 00:14:02,610 --> 00:14:06,660 She really blamed him for their parents' death. 226 00:14:06,660 --> 00:14:09,370 And then when their parents did pass away, 227 00:14:09,370 --> 00:14:12,080 she was stuck, still raising Gary 228 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,210 and so she held quite a lot of resentment against him. 229 00:14:17,830 --> 00:14:21,130 - Well, I was mad at Gary when mom dad died, 230 00:14:22,590 --> 00:14:24,340 they were out on a fishing trip 231 00:14:24,340 --> 00:14:27,470 and mom and dad liked to do some night fishing. 232 00:14:28,340 --> 00:14:32,310 And so they went out and did hang the lantern 233 00:14:32,310 --> 00:14:33,220 where they could see it, 234 00:14:33,220 --> 00:14:35,060 so they could get back to shore safely, 235 00:14:35,060 --> 00:14:37,810 back to camp without hitting any rocks. 236 00:14:38,730 --> 00:14:39,810 Old Gary decided 237 00:14:39,810 --> 00:14:42,440 that he was gonna go hunting frogs and everything 238 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,440 and so, and he went exploring. 239 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,740 And while he's out there he hung the lantern up, 240 00:14:48,740 --> 00:14:51,280 so that he could see what he was doing. 241 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,490 Meanwhile, mom and dad 242 00:14:52,490 --> 00:14:54,580 decided that they were gonna come back in 243 00:14:54,580 --> 00:14:56,290 and call it a night. 244 00:14:56,290 --> 00:14:58,170 So they headed for the lantern. 245 00:14:59,250 --> 00:15:04,250 Not knowing that Gary had moved it while he was exploring 246 00:15:05,420 --> 00:15:08,090 and so they followed the light. 247 00:15:08,090 --> 00:15:13,100 And, it was the wrong spot. 248 00:15:13,810 --> 00:15:18,520 They didn't make it back because they hit the rocks, 249 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,520 and had Gary not hang the lantern up where he was at 250 00:15:24,150 --> 00:15:26,280 and left it where it needed to be, 251 00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:30,070 there wouldn't have been any problems. 252 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:38,120 - I just felt super bad for Beverly. 253 00:15:42,130 --> 00:15:44,670 You know, I could just hear her 254 00:15:44,670 --> 00:15:48,050 inside Gary's room, sobbing. 255 00:15:50,510 --> 00:15:53,800 - You know, you're really making me miss my brother, Gary. 256 00:15:55,930 --> 00:15:57,930 (sentimental music) 257 00:16:11,570 --> 00:16:14,830 - [Gal] Kept hearing people refer to Gary as a hiker. 258 00:16:14,830 --> 00:16:18,580 And in my opinion, I don't really think that's correct. 259 00:16:18,580 --> 00:16:22,170 Because, to me, Gary's more of a survivalist, 260 00:16:22,170 --> 00:16:27,170 he would go out into the wilderness for a week or two on end 261 00:16:27,380 --> 00:16:29,210 with just a backpack. 262 00:16:29,210 --> 00:16:32,590 He's kind of like the MacGyver of the wilderness, 263 00:16:32,590 --> 00:16:37,260 just to survive and live off of the land, 264 00:16:37,260 --> 00:16:39,770 and filter his on water. 265 00:16:39,770 --> 00:16:42,060 So, to hear them just be like, 266 00:16:42,060 --> 00:16:44,350 oh, he's just a hiker gone missing. 267 00:16:44,350 --> 00:16:45,480 He's not. 268 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,570 - When Gary and I first started living together, 269 00:16:47,570 --> 00:16:50,940 I actually went out with him on one of these things. 270 00:16:50,940 --> 00:16:55,780 And I just kept telling myself the entire time, never again. 271 00:16:56,830 --> 00:16:59,330 Gary wouldn't let us bring enough food or water, 272 00:16:59,330 --> 00:17:02,540 and it was the most miserable experience. 273 00:17:02,540 --> 00:17:05,000 The one thing I did like about it 274 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,880 was we kept on finding these 1800's 275 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,720 abandoned mining kind of structures, 276 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,760 which was super cool. 277 00:17:14,630 --> 00:17:18,060 - This wasn't a normal search and rescue. 278 00:17:18,060 --> 00:17:23,060 Because, Gary didn't tell anybody where he was going 279 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,060 on his excursion. 280 00:17:25,060 --> 00:17:27,860 And he would go really deep into the wilderness, 281 00:17:27,860 --> 00:17:31,320 and he'd be gone for a week or so, 282 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,950 so no one had any idea where to even start looking. 283 00:17:35,950 --> 00:17:40,540 And so police decided the best way, 284 00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:41,870 or the only thing they could think of 285 00:17:41,870 --> 00:17:44,960 was to maybe check his cell phone, 286 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,340 and his cell phone pings in which tower. 287 00:17:48,340 --> 00:17:51,630 And it looked to be as he had turned his cell phone off 288 00:17:51,630 --> 00:17:54,010 shortly after leaving his home. 289 00:17:54,970 --> 00:17:56,970 - When Beverly showed up to get the dog. 290 00:17:58,220 --> 00:18:02,140 Yeah, I regret that now, I kind of lashed out at her. 291 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,150 - I was so put off when I got to town, 292 00:18:07,150 --> 00:18:11,360 and he was so antsy to get out of there. 293 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:14,990 And, being my brother's roommate, 294 00:18:14,990 --> 00:18:17,320 not even asking where he was gonna be, 295 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,910 or, if there was gonna, 296 00:18:19,910 --> 00:18:23,160 you know any issue that might set up a red flag 297 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,500 if he didn't come home. 298 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:26,410 He had his dog and everything, 299 00:18:26,410 --> 00:18:28,960 and he knew he needed to be out of town. 300 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,090 I just didn't, 301 00:18:33,090 --> 00:18:34,630 I didn't feel right about it, 302 00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:35,840 it just didn't feel right. 303 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,220 And, a week or so before that, Gary had confided in me 304 00:18:39,220 --> 00:18:42,310 that him and Simon weren't getting along very well, 305 00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:45,430 and so he wanted to move out. 306 00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:49,770 And so I just, 307 00:18:49,770 --> 00:18:53,650 it just didn't feel right, so I let the cops know. 308 00:18:53,650 --> 00:18:56,190 You know, I just don't trust him, 309 00:18:56,190 --> 00:19:00,700 there's just something to not be concerned at all, 310 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:02,740 where your roommate's gonna be. 311 00:19:02,740 --> 00:19:07,210 And more worried about getting on a plane, 312 00:19:07,210 --> 00:19:11,380 than somebody missing that's supposed to be your friend, 313 00:19:11,380 --> 00:19:12,540 close to you? 314 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:14,750 No. 315 00:19:16,420 --> 00:19:17,470 - We never talked about that, 316 00:19:17,470 --> 00:19:19,630 he never told me where he went hiking, ever, 317 00:19:19,630 --> 00:19:21,180 he never mentioned it. 318 00:19:21,180 --> 00:19:23,140 And even if we did talk about it, 319 00:19:23,140 --> 00:19:27,390 I'm pretty sure he probably wouldn't have told me, so. 320 00:19:27,390 --> 00:19:29,690 But at the beginning, I understood 321 00:19:29,690 --> 00:19:31,610 she needed someone to point the finger at 322 00:19:31,610 --> 00:19:35,070 and she was super upset, understandably. 323 00:19:35,070 --> 00:19:39,360 But after some time, it just kind of got old, 324 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:43,580 so I called her and I now told her that, 325 00:19:43,580 --> 00:19:47,000 there's no way I would have known and just by the way, 326 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,580 you're his sister, so why didn't you know? 327 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,460 - When I first reported Gary missing, 328 00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:55,500 the police were wonderful, 329 00:19:55,500 --> 00:20:00,130 they were really on top of it, they did an APB, 330 00:20:00,130 --> 00:20:03,180 be on the lookout for his truck, himself, 331 00:20:04,010 --> 00:20:08,140 Park Rangers, Fish and Game, everything. 332 00:20:08,140 --> 00:20:09,560 You know, we live in a small town, 333 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,650 people don't go missing all the time. 334 00:20:11,650 --> 00:20:14,020 And so this was a big deal, 335 00:20:14,020 --> 00:20:17,360 and they really took it seriously, 336 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:19,360 they had it everywhere. 337 00:20:21,030 --> 00:20:23,070 I was embarrassed that I didn't know 338 00:20:23,070 --> 00:20:26,660 exactly where he was at, you know, I'm his sister, 339 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,410 I should have known. 340 00:20:33,380 --> 00:20:34,500 I should have known. 341 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,760 (sentimental music) 342 00:20:58,070 --> 00:21:02,780 - [Simon] My first thought when I heard he was missing was, 343 00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:08,990 oh, it'd be near impossible to find him. 344 00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:15,460 Either, he finally just injured himself, 345 00:21:15,460 --> 00:21:18,420 or maybe he had eaten something 346 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,510 that he didn't know was gonna make him so sick. 347 00:21:26,970 --> 00:21:29,220 - It'd been two days since I'd reported the missing 348 00:21:29,220 --> 00:21:33,440 and I hadn't slept more than 10 to 15 minutes at a time. 349 00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:38,610 I had people calling and were so concerned 350 00:21:38,610 --> 00:21:41,110 and wanted to know where to start looking for him. 351 00:21:42,150 --> 00:21:44,240 But not knowing where he was at, 352 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,240 where would I have them look? 353 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,370 And then the phone call came, they'd found Gary's truck. 354 00:21:53,540 --> 00:21:55,540 (ominous music) 355 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,480 (thunder roaring) 356 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,950 And I got such a sinking feeling, 357 00:22:25,950 --> 00:22:28,280 such a sick to my stomach feeling 358 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,660 that this was now very real. 359 00:22:32,660 --> 00:22:35,330 (thunder roars) 360 00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:41,960 After the cops called in, 361 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,170 and let me know that they'd found this truck, 362 00:22:44,170 --> 00:22:47,130 they came and picked me up and took me to it. 363 00:22:47,130 --> 00:22:50,550 It was about 55 miles out of town, 364 00:22:50,550 --> 00:22:53,930 and we got there and seeing his truck, 365 00:22:55,060 --> 00:22:58,310 I was so hopeful, you know, thinking, 366 00:22:59,770 --> 00:23:01,980 he probably fell, 367 00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:04,480 maybe broke an ankle, stuck in a ravine, 368 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,740 can't get himself out. 369 00:23:05,740 --> 00:23:08,740 But I had hope. 370 00:23:08,740 --> 00:23:13,240 I really had hope that we were gonna find him okay. 371 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,580 - It just wasn't in a place where Gary would have left it. 372 00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:19,580 Like it wasn't in a spot where he wanted, 373 00:23:19,580 --> 00:23:21,750 which he would wanna go to explore. 374 00:23:24,130 --> 00:23:25,760 - While I was sitting there, 375 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,970 watching them process Gary's truck, I was looking around, 376 00:23:31,970 --> 00:23:34,810 this wasn't Gary, 377 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,730 he loved to explore vast forests, rocky hills, 378 00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:48,110 beauty, not just a rolling hill of dirt. 379 00:23:49,030 --> 00:23:53,700 It just, something wasn't right. 380 00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:56,450 (gunshot blasts) 381 00:24:02,170 --> 00:24:04,920 (gunshot blasts) 382 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,840 (car engine roaring) 383 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,840 - I'm a private investigator. 384 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,600 I was hired by Beverly shortly after Gary's truck was found. 385 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,440 The High Desert as you can see, 386 00:24:24,650 --> 00:24:26,570 it's very beautiful, 387 00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:31,570 it's very majestic, has mountains, valleys, plains, forests, 388 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,070 it has it all. 389 00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:37,580 But it's also quite dangerous and very unforgiving. 390 00:24:37,580 --> 00:24:40,160 - So after Gary's truck was found, 391 00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:45,340 a search began and people really rallied. 392 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,880 (upbeat music) 393 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,760 - [Bill] Gary went missing 394 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,260 in the hottest part of the summer. 395 00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:55,970 And what we see most of the time in disappearance like his 396 00:24:55,970 --> 00:25:00,810 is people suffering from heatstroke, 397 00:25:00,810 --> 00:25:04,350 dehydration, sometimes even injury. 398 00:25:06,810 --> 00:25:08,320 - [Beverly] People started showing up 399 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,190 and then more people started showing up, 400 00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:14,280 and next thing I know, it's a whole whirlwind, 401 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,910 there were people there that I didn't know, 402 00:25:20,370 --> 00:25:22,040 that Gary didn't know, 403 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,960 there were people bringing drones, 404 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,710 all kinds of search and rescue. 405 00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:30,050 It was the most humbling experience 406 00:25:30,050 --> 00:25:35,050 to know that these strangers were out there helping 407 00:25:35,260 --> 00:25:39,220 to try to find my brother and bring him home. 408 00:25:40,970 --> 00:25:42,980 (intense music) 409 00:25:52,030 --> 00:25:55,860 - So once Gary's truck was found, Beverly was, 410 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,080 let's just say she was very vocal 411 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,580 about how the truck seemed to be parked 412 00:26:02,580 --> 00:26:04,290 in a suspicious location, 413 00:26:04,290 --> 00:26:05,620 like she was just convinced 414 00:26:05,620 --> 00:26:08,210 that her brother had not parked it there, 415 00:26:08,210 --> 00:26:10,000 her brother wouldn't park it there, 416 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,800 and she would not stop talking about it. 417 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,970 So the cops eventually looked into this. 418 00:26:17,970 --> 00:26:19,680 - The clock was ticking. 419 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,970 They very much needed to find Gary as soon as possible. 420 00:26:23,850 --> 00:26:27,900 Beverly, on the other hand, was very much in their way. 421 00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:32,900 She was in the way, and she was really messing things up. 422 00:26:33,530 --> 00:26:36,110 - Searching the high desert isn't easy, 423 00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:37,450 I mean, it's not an easy task. 424 00:26:37,450 --> 00:26:38,360 People think it is, 425 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,950 people think you can just get up in the air in a helicopter 426 00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:45,960 and fly around and look at the ground and see someone, 427 00:26:46,580 --> 00:26:51,170 but once you're on the ground, there's abandoned mines, 428 00:26:51,170 --> 00:26:53,670 there's bushes and tree cover. 429 00:26:53,670 --> 00:26:56,260 And it's super difficult. 430 00:26:56,260 --> 00:27:00,140 So finding someone, it's not easy as people think it is. 431 00:27:01,510 --> 00:27:03,260 - [Gary] Oh my god, sheep. 432 00:27:03,260 --> 00:27:04,100 (sheep bleating) 433 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:05,640 Hi sheep. 434 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,730 Look at all the sheep. 435 00:27:07,690 --> 00:27:09,400 Sheep are a lot nicer than people. 436 00:27:10,980 --> 00:27:11,810 (sheep bleating) 437 00:27:11,810 --> 00:27:13,150 (feet rustling) 438 00:27:13,150 --> 00:27:14,110 Hey little sheep, 439 00:27:15,690 --> 00:27:16,740 look at all you guys. 440 00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:19,860 (sheep bleating) 441 00:27:19,860 --> 00:27:23,950 Roaming the land, doing what you need to do. 442 00:27:23,950 --> 00:27:26,790 (ground rustling) 443 00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:30,710 Jeez, they all ran away from me. 444 00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:32,500 Can't even make friends with sheep. 445 00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:35,920 (sheep bleating) 446 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,220 - The officers didn't want me to participate in the search. 447 00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:46,930 They thought it was best that I stay home at Gary's place 448 00:27:46,930 --> 00:27:51,940 in case he tried to contact me, call or show up. 449 00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:56,190 - I was very much familiar with the lead investigator. 450 00:27:56,190 --> 00:27:57,990 We had worked together before, 451 00:27:57,990 --> 00:28:00,410 and we were definitely familiar with each other. 452 00:28:01,660 --> 00:28:04,160 I called him to kind of check up on things 453 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,040 and see where the investigation was headed, 454 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,790 and if they had any new information. 455 00:28:10,790 --> 00:28:13,750 He told me that they had made a discovery in the truck. 456 00:28:14,250 --> 00:28:16,250 (ominous music) 457 00:28:23,850 --> 00:28:27,350 But since I was not formally hired by Beverley, 458 00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:30,060 I had to contact her first 459 00:28:30,060 --> 00:28:32,560 before they would discuss the matter with me. 460 00:28:34,190 --> 00:28:38,400 - I was hopeful that they had good news, 461 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:45,370 that the officer asked me if Gary had any enemies, 462 00:28:45,910 --> 00:28:50,040 or if I knew anybody that may wanna hurt him. 463 00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:54,670 I asked the officer why, 464 00:28:56,210 --> 00:28:57,170 why would he, 465 00:28:58,050 --> 00:28:59,260 why would he ask that. 466 00:28:59,260 --> 00:29:04,260 And in confidence, they told me that they had evidence 467 00:29:07,850 --> 00:29:12,730 that Gary did not drive his truck out there. 468 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,610 (droning music) 469 00:29:27,070 --> 00:29:28,700 - So I waited a couple of hours 470 00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:31,750 and went over to Gary's house where Beverly was staying, 471 00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:34,620 and she was absolutely hysterical. 472 00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:37,420 She told me that the police had informed her 473 00:29:37,420 --> 00:29:42,010 that in Gary's truck they had discovered prints 474 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,890 on top of Gary's all over, on top of the steering wheel, 475 00:29:48,010 --> 00:29:50,720 the dashboard, the gear 476 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,730 and what was most surprising or alarming 477 00:29:56,020 --> 00:30:01,030 was that they discovered footprints, bare footprints, 478 00:30:01,690 --> 00:30:06,700 and they were scarred and unidentifiable, 479 00:30:07,820 --> 00:30:10,540 which even added more to the mystery. 480 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,210 (mystery music) 481 00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:19,790 - The footprint was, 482 00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:26,510 he said that it was barefoot. 483 00:30:35,180 --> 00:30:40,110 - So someone drove Gary's truck barefoot. 484 00:30:41,650 --> 00:30:44,150 And it just doesn't sit well with me, 485 00:30:44,150 --> 00:30:46,570 because it's like, what happened? 486 00:30:46,570 --> 00:30:49,160 Why was this person not wearing shoes? 487 00:30:50,740 --> 00:30:51,950 What was going on? 488 00:30:51,950 --> 00:30:54,080 Like, it's just odd, 489 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,410 and it's very, 490 00:30:56,410 --> 00:30:59,210 I don't know, it's just, 491 00:31:00,250 --> 00:31:01,960 it made my skin crawl. 492 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,840 (feet rustling) 493 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,300 - [Gary] Oh, look at the little baby deer. 494 00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:09,180 That's kind of cool to see, you don't see that too often. 495 00:31:21,730 --> 00:31:24,980 (train engine roaring) 496 00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:33,160 (train hooting) 497 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,410 (train engine roaring) 498 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,380 - You know, I hadn't been sleeping and everything, 499 00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:49,180 and my mind was just reeling, 500 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,350 I had a lot of things going through my head, 501 00:31:52,350 --> 00:31:53,760 different scenarios. 502 00:31:55,180 --> 00:31:57,140 Maybe he picked up a friend? 503 00:31:58,930 --> 00:32:02,190 Maybe somebody stole his truck while he was out hiking? 504 00:32:03,150 --> 00:32:06,650 Or maybe he picked up a hitchhiker, 505 00:32:06,650 --> 00:32:11,660 and the hitchhiker had done something to him. 506 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,500 I don't know, at this point, 507 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:20,080 so many things were just going through my head, 508 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,210 just over and over again, 509 00:32:24,210 --> 00:32:28,800 which didn't help me try to get any sleep. 510 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,800 (train engine roaring) (train hooting) 511 00:32:39,850 --> 00:32:43,440 - So Beverly, still wanted me to vet out Simon 512 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,320 because she still thought he was very suspicious. 513 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,530 And I did too. 514 00:32:48,530 --> 00:32:49,570 I looked into him again, 515 00:32:49,570 --> 00:32:54,160 and lo and behold, he was ruled out as a suspect. 516 00:32:55,410 --> 00:32:57,240 But through that process, 517 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,080 I actually learned that Gary had been talking 518 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,920 to someone that he met on a Facebook Messenger group. 519 00:33:05,210 --> 00:33:07,420 They had been corresponding with each other 520 00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:09,960 through a local sellers group, 521 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,340 and I guess they had been commenting on each other's posts 522 00:33:13,340 --> 00:33:14,510 and one thing led to another 523 00:33:14,510 --> 00:33:18,220 and they became more than friends. 524 00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:24,270 When I confronted this person, he was very much terrified, 525 00:33:24,650 --> 00:33:25,730 didn't wanna talk to me, 526 00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:27,110 didn't wanna have anything to do with me 527 00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:28,110 or the investigation. 528 00:33:28,110 --> 00:33:29,860 And I told him, if you don't talk to me, 529 00:33:29,860 --> 00:33:31,490 you're gonna have to talk to the cops, 530 00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:33,490 and they're gonna really bust your ass. 531 00:33:33,490 --> 00:33:35,320 And I think he was terrified 532 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,030 of being outed in this community, 533 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,960 because it's such a small town, not a lot of gay people. 534 00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:46,880 And so he did talk to me, he told me that, 535 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,000 he didn't have anything to do with Gary's disappearance. 536 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,550 He was sad and upset that Gary had disappeared, 537 00:33:54,550 --> 00:33:57,090 he didn't know what happened to him. 538 00:33:57,090 --> 00:33:58,550 I guess I did believe him. 539 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,600 He really didn't wanna discuss it, 540 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,390 but ultimately, when I did check out his alibi, 541 00:34:04,390 --> 00:34:07,230 he was cleared as a suspect. 542 00:34:07,230 --> 00:34:08,520 (sheep bleating) 543 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,360 (ground rustling) 544 00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:15,650 - Hey guys, now that I'm done chasing sheep around 545 00:34:15,650 --> 00:34:17,740 like a crazy person in the mountains. 546 00:34:18,780 --> 00:34:21,240 I've seen a lot out here, mining camps, 547 00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:26,250 mines, abandoned towns, buildings, remnants of the past, 548 00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:29,250 but the coolest and my favorite personally, 549 00:34:29,250 --> 00:34:31,750 is all the Native American remnants, 550 00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:33,420 I love finding arrowheads 551 00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:36,760 and seeing petroglyphs on mountain sides. 552 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,550 Just old writing from the native people 553 00:34:39,550 --> 00:34:43,140 who lived here long before any settlers moved in. 554 00:34:43,140 --> 00:34:45,270 To me, that's the coolest stuff to see. 555 00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:47,520 But it's getting dark now, the sun's setting 556 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,440 I think I'm gonna call it a night and get settled in, 557 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,400 in my camp. 558 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,280 (ground rustling) 559 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,650 - They were still processing the crime scene and everything 560 00:34:56,650 --> 00:35:01,660 and they came across an envelope in his center console, 561 00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:04,790 it had a (muffled speaking) money in it. 562 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,960 To me that said that whoever he was with, 563 00:35:11,590 --> 00:35:15,170 wasn't there to take his money 564 00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:17,800 or anything that he might have had. 565 00:35:21,260 --> 00:35:23,260 (sentimental music) 566 00:35:35,690 --> 00:35:39,860 I woke to the police officers knocking on my door. 567 00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:47,000 And they were informing me that they called off the search. 568 00:35:48,250 --> 00:35:50,710 And while they're explaining things to me, 569 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,420 I'm seeing them talking, 570 00:35:56,380 --> 00:35:58,170 I'm not comprehending any of the it, 571 00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:03,300 everything was just kind of flashing. 572 00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:07,890 And, I'm seeing their faces, and I'm seeing their lips move, 573 00:36:07,890 --> 00:36:10,770 and then they're looking at me like I'm crazy. 574 00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:15,650 And next thing I know, I'm on a stretcher. 575 00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:20,610 (heart throbbing) (beep sounds) 576 00:36:22,990 --> 00:36:28,000 And taken to the ER where they had to give me hydration 577 00:36:29,250 --> 00:36:34,250 and IV with fluids and medicine that helped me sleep, 578 00:36:36,380 --> 00:36:40,800 and for the first time since all of this started, 579 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:43,800 I got 10 hours of sleep. 580 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,470 - This was the largest search and rescue 581 00:36:47,470 --> 00:36:49,600 that Nevada had ever seen. 582 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,600 And when they finally called it off, 583 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,980 everyone was just so shocked. 584 00:36:55,980 --> 00:36:59,860 But, you mean, you can't search the entire state of Nevada, 585 00:36:59,860 --> 00:37:02,200 it's just too vast, it's too broad, 586 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:07,160 and it had been so long that the chances of finding him 587 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,290 and finding him alive were slim to none. 588 00:37:11,290 --> 00:37:13,580 - The investigation was dead in the water, 589 00:37:13,580 --> 00:37:15,580 we didn't have any leads, 590 00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:18,590 the fingerprints in the truck didn't match any database, 591 00:37:18,590 --> 00:37:20,840 so we didn't know what to do. 592 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:21,670 But then. 593 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:24,720 (intense music) 594 00:37:28,930 --> 00:37:30,680 Gary's followers started calling. 595 00:37:35,940 --> 00:37:38,320 And this whole thing was turned on its head. 596 00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:42,070 - So I'm at my desk, 597 00:37:42,070 --> 00:37:44,150 and I'm going through the show notes, 598 00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:45,490 I'm getting ready to go on air 599 00:37:45,490 --> 00:37:47,620 and my producer comes through my door, and he's like, 600 00:37:47,620 --> 00:37:50,950 you have a phone call, you have to take this phone call. 601 00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:54,790 And I get on the phone, and it's one of our listeners. 602 00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:59,340 And he's telling me that I have to look into Gary's blog. 603 00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:03,800 He's going on and on about this crazy story about Gary, 604 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,050 and he's telling me that he thinks he knows where he is, 605 00:38:08,050 --> 00:38:11,270 he thinks he knows what happened to him. 606 00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:15,730 And that I have to go and look at this blog right now. 607 00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:18,360 - My friend Monica calls me 608 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,530 and tells me that it's all over the news 609 00:38:21,530 --> 00:38:26,530 that all these people are calling into the radio station. 610 00:38:26,910 --> 00:38:31,120 And she tells me that they're talking about Gary's blog 611 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,000 and the fact that it needs to be read 612 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,960 and that there's comments and everything. 613 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,170 And so once I got discharged, 614 00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:41,670 I went straight to Gary's house, 615 00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:45,170 so I could read the blog and see what all this was 616 00:38:45,170 --> 00:38:47,180 that they were talking about. 617 00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:49,720 - Unfortunately, Beverly found out about Gary's blog 618 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,270 hours before we did, and she went right over there, 619 00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:55,430 and really messed things up. 620 00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:57,980 - Hey guys, it's me again. 621 00:38:57,980 --> 00:38:59,810 A lot of people have been following the blog 622 00:38:59,810 --> 00:39:01,690 and new to the blog and been saying, 623 00:39:01,690 --> 00:39:04,780 I'm just trying to copy "Naked and Afraid". 624 00:39:04,780 --> 00:39:08,360 And as you can tell, I'm not naked or afraid out here, 625 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,530 so I'm not trying to copy the show and, 626 00:39:11,660 --> 00:39:14,870 also my ex loved that show, so I'm sick of it, 627 00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:17,660 there's a reason why people are called exes. 628 00:39:17,660 --> 00:39:20,380 - So while I'm trying to navigate through everything 629 00:39:20,380 --> 00:39:22,420 on his blog, 630 00:39:22,420 --> 00:39:24,800 going through the operator stuff and everything 631 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:31,180 and I finally get in there and I realize he has 50,000, 632 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:34,390 50,000 viewers. 633 00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:39,060 I was shocked. 634 00:39:39,060 --> 00:39:42,650 - Not a single person in Gary's life knew about his blog, 635 00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:44,070 which was really shocking 636 00:39:44,070 --> 00:39:47,030 considering the fact that he had 50,000 followers. 637 00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:51,450 That really says something, if you think about it. 638 00:39:55,830 --> 00:39:59,330 - Of course, I immediately jump on my computer 639 00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:03,840 and I go to his blog, and I'll never forget the title, 640 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,670 because I actually thought it was really clever. 641 00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:09,300 It was called "Don't Hike With Headphones". 642 00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:11,340 - Hey guys up here at the top of the mountain, 643 00:40:11,340 --> 00:40:15,390 as you can see, there's the great view behind me. 644 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,980 One of the questions I've got asked on the blog a lot was, 645 00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:21,940 what dangers (muffled speaking), 646 00:40:21,940 --> 00:40:24,020 are there any threatening animals 647 00:40:24,020 --> 00:40:25,860 like rattlesnakes and mountain lions? 648 00:40:25,860 --> 00:40:29,650 And, yeah, there're rattlesnakes at the lower elevations, 649 00:40:29,650 --> 00:40:31,910 you might have noticed I don't hike with headphones 650 00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:34,450 or anything on so I can listen for them. 651 00:40:34,450 --> 00:40:37,870 - And it's your basic, survivalist type blog, 652 00:40:37,870 --> 00:40:41,250 you know, how to build a fire, how to filter water, 653 00:40:41,250 --> 00:40:43,130 and I just start scrolling through 654 00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:45,090 and I scroll and scroll all the way to the, 655 00:40:45,090 --> 00:40:47,880 like the latest videos that he had posted. 656 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,420 - I'm trying to navigate 657 00:40:49,420 --> 00:40:52,630 to find out where these notifications are coming from 658 00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:56,100 because he is getting notification after notification, 659 00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:59,560 I mean, it's ding, ding, ding, ding. 660 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,850 - So I was driving when I found out Gary had a blog, 661 00:41:02,850 --> 00:41:06,820 I pulled over and looked for it on my phone. 662 00:41:06,820 --> 00:41:09,030 And the first thing that I noticed 663 00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:10,820 was that he didn't go by his real name, 664 00:41:10,820 --> 00:41:13,280 he went by Scorpion Sam. 665 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,530 - My biggest thing I've ever ran into 666 00:41:15,530 --> 00:41:18,120 was I got stung by a scorpion, 667 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,620 kicking over a rock once, 668 00:41:20,620 --> 00:41:25,210 had to go to the hospital once I got back to my truck, 669 00:41:25,210 --> 00:41:27,790 that was the day I hiked with a swelling up hand. 670 00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:32,170 - I'm finally able to get to the notifications 671 00:41:32,170 --> 00:41:34,430 and this notification pops up 672 00:41:34,430 --> 00:41:37,890 and they're saying, I bet he found it, 673 00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:42,640 and that something bad happened, 674 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,650 and I'm thinking, they're saying he found it? 675 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,030 And something bad happened? 676 00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:51,400 Found what? 677 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,860 - And then came Gary's now infamous video post. 678 00:41:57,070 --> 00:42:00,330 I have worked a lot of strange cases in my career, 679 00:42:00,330 --> 00:42:05,040 and Gary's by far was the most unusual, 680 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,880 just the way that he described what he was looking at, 681 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,010 what he saw, how terrified he was, 682 00:42:13,010 --> 00:42:18,010 it just really scares me. 683 00:42:20,970 --> 00:42:24,690 - So I started watching the second to last video 684 00:42:24,690 --> 00:42:25,940 on Gary's blog. 685 00:42:25,940 --> 00:42:28,690 And he's at his home and he's sitting there 686 00:42:28,690 --> 00:42:31,110 and he's telling his viewers 687 00:42:33,570 --> 00:42:37,320 basically what he came across on his last expedition. 688 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,990 - I saw his last three videos 689 00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:40,870 and, 690 00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:44,830 what I saw, 691 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,590 changed everything. 692 00:42:52,250 --> 00:42:54,260 (ominous music) 693 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,390 - He's pretty worked up in this video, 694 00:43:03,390 --> 00:43:06,560 you can tell he's nervous, he's scared. 695 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,730 - As soon as his video started, 696 00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:15,900 I could tell he was troubled by something, 697 00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:18,490 something had him so unnerved. 698 00:43:19,870 --> 00:43:22,870 He was three days into his expedition, 699 00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:27,290 and he started to smell smoke and that, 700 00:43:27,290 --> 00:43:29,370 and he was out in the middle of nowhere. 701 00:43:29,370 --> 00:43:34,300 So he got curious and started to look around. 702 00:43:35,170 --> 00:43:37,010 - He comes across this cabin, 703 00:43:37,010 --> 00:43:40,970 and it's not like a nice cabin, it's like a makeshift cabin, 704 00:43:40,970 --> 00:43:45,970 almost kind of like a homeless type of structure, 705 00:43:46,180 --> 00:43:47,520 sticks and twigs, 706 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,900 and there's smoke coming out of the chimney. 707 00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:56,780 And Gary's not someone to be scared of someone else, 708 00:43:56,780 --> 00:43:57,780 out in the wilderness, 709 00:43:57,780 --> 00:44:02,780 but he said he was just like frozen in his tracks, 710 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,000 and he just felt this like sixth sense 711 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,120 of basically impending doom. 712 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,840 - It was the look on his face, that really got to me, 713 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,130 when he described this cabin out in Nevada. 714 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,350 - He said that the longer he stood and looked at it 715 00:44:27,390 --> 00:44:31,650 the more spooked that he got the feeling of dread, 716 00:44:31,650 --> 00:44:34,980 the sixth sense that he needed to get out of there. 717 00:44:34,980 --> 00:44:38,860 - And he wanted nothing to do with that place. 718 00:44:38,860 --> 00:44:42,360 And so, he hightails it out of there 719 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,540 and he goes to sleep in his tent, 720 00:44:46,540 --> 00:44:51,120 I remember this because he talks about how he was so scared, 721 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,040 he slept with his shoes on all night. 722 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,590 You know, he didn't bring his firearms, 723 00:44:55,590 --> 00:45:00,590 so he was totally just vulnerable out there and terrified. 724 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,810 And he wakes up the next morning, and there's footprints, 725 00:45:08,220 --> 00:45:11,270 and they're barefoot footprints. 726 00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:13,480 - These two things are now connected, 727 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,770 we had something to go on. 728 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,360 (ominous music) 729 00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:26,910 - [Beverly] The hike back to his track, 730 00:45:26,910 --> 00:45:28,790 which took three days, 731 00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:32,210 he felt like somebody was following him. 732 00:45:32,580 --> 00:45:34,580 (ominous music) 733 00:45:35,170 --> 00:45:39,000 - So this was a really sad story to me, 734 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,170 to see Gary's followers turn on him, 735 00:45:42,170 --> 00:45:44,930 that blog was everything to him. 736 00:45:44,930 --> 00:45:49,930 He really admired them, and their comments, 737 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,850 it was something really special to him. 738 00:45:54,850 --> 00:45:59,860 And to see them go from loving him to bullying him, 739 00:46:00,530 --> 00:46:03,650 calling him a loser, a liar, 740 00:46:03,650 --> 00:46:07,570 and putting him down, it was really sad to see. 741 00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:12,250 - And the comments are like, 742 00:46:12,250 --> 00:46:15,920 everyone's kind of just like, well, go back, 743 00:46:16,750 --> 00:46:18,420 take video, show us this place, 744 00:46:18,420 --> 00:46:21,210 does this place even exist, is this even real? 745 00:46:21,210 --> 00:46:23,840 And he's getting like really hit by his followers, 746 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,800 basically, they're kind of bullying him, 747 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,350 they don't believe that he came across this, 748 00:46:30,350 --> 00:46:33,850 they go to his blog for a reason, 749 00:46:33,850 --> 00:46:35,690 and now they feel like he's just 750 00:46:35,690 --> 00:46:38,610 getting into ghost stories or something. 751 00:46:38,610 --> 00:46:39,440 And so they, 752 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,280 I really feel like he fell into a bit of cyber bullying 753 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,160 and the fact that they were not gonna be 754 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,870 his faithful followers anymore, 755 00:46:51,870 --> 00:46:56,500 unless he goes back and proves that he saw this, 756 00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:58,420 he experienced this. 757 00:46:58,420 --> 00:47:01,090 (air whooshing) 758 00:47:04,090 --> 00:47:07,630 - You know, it broke my heart to read the comments 759 00:47:07,630 --> 00:47:12,640 that said that he was nothing but a lonely loser, 760 00:47:12,850 --> 00:47:16,430 and that all he was doing 761 00:47:16,430 --> 00:47:20,730 was trying to get attention by making shit up 762 00:47:20,730 --> 00:47:23,820 and that they didn't believe him. 763 00:47:25,610 --> 00:47:27,780 - I actually didn't know about the blog, 764 00:47:28,610 --> 00:47:31,370 but I knew he was doing something 765 00:47:31,370 --> 00:47:36,250 because he was always in the backyard making videos, 766 00:47:36,250 --> 00:47:38,460 telling the camera how to make a campfire, 767 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,630 or I always heard him in his room 768 00:47:41,630 --> 00:47:43,710 like giving survival tips and things. 769 00:47:44,550 --> 00:47:47,260 - [Gary] Hey, guys, just walking through the woods here. 770 00:47:48,130 --> 00:47:50,760 It's a beautiful day in the backwoods in Nevada. 771 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,680 But a lot of people asked what I would do 772 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,100 if I got lost back here, 773 00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:59,520 I had to spends several more days than I planned on, 774 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,850 I guess first thing I would do 775 00:48:00,850 --> 00:48:04,690 would be find a nice nutritious cow patty, 776 00:48:05,610 --> 00:48:07,780 because there're so yummy. 777 00:48:07,780 --> 00:48:11,070 I'm just kidding, you don't wanna eat cow shit. 778 00:48:11,070 --> 00:48:11,990 That will be bad. 779 00:48:12,820 --> 00:48:15,910 But there are ways you can scavenger for food out here. 780 00:48:17,330 --> 00:48:20,290 (train engine roaring) 781 00:48:20,290 --> 00:48:23,500 (train hooting) 782 00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:26,210 - I'm so upset by everything and, 783 00:48:27,130 --> 00:48:31,800 I wanted to download this 784 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,510 and do what I could so that I could take it to the cops, 785 00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:40,520 and during all the frustration and the upset and everything, 786 00:48:42,810 --> 00:48:45,020 I accidentally deleted it. 787 00:48:47,650 --> 00:48:51,030 - Beverly really beat herself up about deleting the video, 788 00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:53,990 and I felt bad for her. 789 00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:57,700 I didn't wanna press it because I knew she felt terrible, 790 00:48:57,700 --> 00:48:59,950 her brother was missing. 791 00:48:59,950 --> 00:49:04,170 But it was a missed opportunity definitely, 792 00:49:04,170 --> 00:49:05,840 and a definite disappointment. 793 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,800 - The last video of Gary on that blog, 794 00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:16,600 is him basically telling his followers, 795 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,930 okay, here I go, I'll go back. 796 00:49:20,930 --> 00:49:22,600 And he doesn't look okay about it. 797 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,980 - Gary's final video is truly haunting. 798 00:49:27,980 --> 00:49:32,450 And it is really the beginning of a bigger mystery. 799 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,740 - Gary's last video that he posted to his blog 800 00:49:39,740 --> 00:49:43,750 said that he was gonna go back out 801 00:49:46,330 --> 00:49:50,960 and record everything and prove to everyone 802 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,180 that this was real, that this really existed. 803 00:50:00,930 --> 00:50:04,980 It's the last time that he ever posted anything 804 00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:06,600 or anybody heard from him. 805 00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:10,230 (ominous music) 806 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,830 (air whooshing) 807 00:50:29,420 --> 00:50:31,590 - Hey guys, I'm back. 808 00:50:31,590 --> 00:50:32,630 Wanted to make a video 809 00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:36,010 about the different comments people left on my last video. 810 00:50:38,050 --> 00:50:40,970 A lot of you were coming up with some crazy theories, 811 00:50:40,970 --> 00:50:44,310 what was out there, what I saw in the woods. 812 00:50:45,390 --> 00:50:47,480 Some of you don't believe it, 813 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,360 some of you are asking for the location 814 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,070 and wanna find it yourself. 815 00:50:52,070 --> 00:50:53,780 I'm really against people going out 816 00:50:53,780 --> 00:50:57,030 in the backwoods in Nevada without experience, 817 00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:58,740 there's a lot dangers out there, 818 00:50:58,740 --> 00:51:02,200 from old mines to just random people 819 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,450 and you can get lost easily, 820 00:51:04,450 --> 00:51:06,750 the scenery looks a lot the same, 821 00:51:06,750 --> 00:51:08,790 and if there's no trails, 822 00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:12,300 you can get lost and turn around and be out there for days. 823 00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:14,460 And if you don't bring enough food or water, 824 00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:15,550 you're in real danger. 825 00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:19,140 So I don't wanna give out the location 826 00:51:19,140 --> 00:51:23,100 and just be the one that causes a whole bunch of people 827 00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:25,060 to go out in the backwoods in Nevada. 828 00:51:26,140 --> 00:51:29,190 I'll go out there, find the shelter again. 829 00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:32,150 This time, I'll bring my camera and firearm, 830 00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:33,860 I have to do some work first, 831 00:51:33,860 --> 00:51:36,570 but I plan on leaving on the 22nd, 832 00:51:36,570 --> 00:51:39,410 and I'll need a good six days to be out there again. 833 00:51:40,450 --> 00:51:43,280 It's a good three days in, and three days back, 834 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,700 but we're gonna find out what this is, 835 00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:49,580 and look forward to another video, 836 00:51:49,580 --> 00:51:51,250 once we finally get out there, 837 00:51:52,290 --> 00:51:54,300 I'll have something for you guys posted. 838 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,680 (ominous music) 839 00:52:01,340 --> 00:52:03,260 - He goes and that's it. 840 00:52:03,260 --> 00:52:04,560 And that's the last, 841 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,060 that's the last video of Gary. 842 00:52:08,060 --> 00:52:11,560 And no one knows where he was going. 843 00:52:12,770 --> 00:52:17,190 So the search is so vast and Nevada is huge, 844 00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:20,450 and he could be anywhere. 845 00:52:21,740 --> 00:52:23,740 (ominous music) 846 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,300 This place that he talks about could be anywhere. 847 00:52:41,890 --> 00:52:43,300 - This became a perfect storm 848 00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:46,890 because now we knew what Gary was doing, 849 00:52:46,890 --> 00:52:48,640 we just had no idea where. 850 00:52:49,890 --> 00:52:54,900 - I had no idea that he had this whole other life, 851 00:52:55,020 --> 00:52:57,980 this blog, all these followers and everything 852 00:52:57,980 --> 00:52:59,190 had I known that, 853 00:53:00,070 --> 00:53:04,620 I would have never, ever, let him go back out there. 854 00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:09,040 - This whole case turned from a missing persons 855 00:53:09,870 --> 00:53:12,920 to a huge mystery. 856 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,420 Whose cabin was this? 857 00:53:14,420 --> 00:53:16,250 I mean, who lives out there? 858 00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:17,420 Where is this cabin? 859 00:53:17,420 --> 00:53:19,920 I mean, if it's in the middle of nowhere, 860 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,340 what type of person lives in the middle of nowhere? 861 00:53:23,340 --> 00:53:27,260 And if you're about to go find that person, 862 00:53:27,260 --> 00:53:29,720 I don't know if they're gonna be too happy to be found. 863 00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:32,190 I mean, if they're out there that far, 864 00:53:32,190 --> 00:53:34,190 they're out there that far for a reason. 865 00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:36,900 (ominous music) 866 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,860 - Once the radio station broadcasts about it, 867 00:53:43,860 --> 00:53:45,700 his blog and everything, 868 00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:47,950 everybody just went crazy 869 00:53:47,950 --> 00:53:50,290 before the cops could even take it down. 870 00:53:50,290 --> 00:53:55,290 The conspiracy theories were just everywhere, 871 00:53:55,500 --> 00:54:00,510 from witches to aliens, area 51, you name it. 872 00:54:02,340 --> 00:54:04,470 - People started coming out of the woodwork 873 00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:06,470 and everyone had a theory 874 00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:11,470 as to who the cabin belonged to, what was in the cabin. 875 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,980 There were some comments about Gary had discovered a witch, 876 00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:19,690 and she was making secret potions 877 00:54:19,690 --> 00:54:22,070 and somehow he had gotten involved, 878 00:54:22,070 --> 00:54:26,240 and I mean it was crazy. 879 00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:28,070 Other people thought it was just a hermit, 880 00:54:28,070 --> 00:54:30,580 you know someone who just wanted to be left alone. 881 00:54:32,290 --> 00:54:34,710 People thought that maybe it was a government, 882 00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:39,130 secret government operation, aliens. 883 00:54:41,590 --> 00:54:42,760 I mean it's, 884 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:44,970 I could go on and on 885 00:54:44,970 --> 00:54:47,550 about the many theories that people thought. 886 00:54:47,550 --> 00:54:49,970 - The only reasonable explanation I could come up with 887 00:54:49,970 --> 00:54:53,020 was maybe, Gary had stumbled upon 888 00:54:53,020 --> 00:54:56,100 an illegal marijuana growing operation 889 00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:58,310 out there in the middle of nowhere in Nevada 890 00:54:59,270 --> 00:55:03,070 and they killed him for it, it has happened before. 891 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,150 But, 892 00:55:07,740 --> 00:55:08,820 I was wrong. 893 00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:17,870 - I just couldn't shake this sickening feeling. 894 00:55:19,420 --> 00:55:21,420 (ominous music) 895 00:55:28,430 --> 00:55:30,260 Before I knew it, the cops showed up 896 00:55:30,260 --> 00:55:32,640 and they had known all about his blog 897 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,100 and I was actually on the computer when they got there. 898 00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:40,650 And they gathered everything up, seized everything, 899 00:55:40,650 --> 00:55:43,070 including his hard drives. 900 00:55:43,070 --> 00:55:44,690 - [Gary] Guys, 901 00:55:44,690 --> 00:55:46,150 another model train video here, 902 00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:48,780 I just got back from a flea market, 903 00:55:48,780 --> 00:55:51,120 and look what I picked up today. 904 00:55:52,620 --> 00:55:57,500 Got a nice little HO diesel locomotive, 905 00:55:57,500 --> 00:55:59,580 lettered for one of my favorite railroads, 906 00:55:59,580 --> 00:56:01,670 it's called the California Western, 907 00:56:02,750 --> 00:56:04,750 out of Northern California. 908 00:56:04,750 --> 00:56:07,760 (plastic train rattling) 909 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,970 Set that down. 910 00:56:09,970 --> 00:56:14,970 Then got this brand new steam engine for the Santa Fe. 911 00:56:15,890 --> 00:56:17,890 (ominous music) 912 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,690 - My private investigator called and said that, 913 00:56:27,690 --> 00:56:32,700 the detectives on the case wanted to meet with me. 914 00:56:32,740 --> 00:56:36,620 So I ended up going down to the precinct and, 915 00:56:39,580 --> 00:56:42,630 they kept asking me, is there anything you need? 916 00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:44,210 Have you eaten today? 917 00:56:45,340 --> 00:56:47,760 Just beating around the bush 918 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,760 and I finally asked them, what is going on? 919 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:55,430 - [Man] It's back on. 920 00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:58,270 (dramatic chase music) 921 00:56:58,270 --> 00:57:00,100 - We are back with a break in the case 922 00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:02,270 of missing hiker, Gary Hinge. 923 00:57:02,270 --> 00:57:04,270 Was made yesterday when his backpack 924 00:57:04,270 --> 00:57:08,400 was discovered by a couple camping in White Pine County. 925 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,860 When they woke up in the morning, 926 00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:10,990 they found the backpack 927 00:57:10,990 --> 00:57:14,120 had been intentionally placed in their campsite. 928 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,660 What they found inside 929 00:57:15,660 --> 00:57:19,200 has sent a shockwave through the state of Nevada. 930 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:23,250 Hinge's truck was found parked in Eureka earlier this month. 931 00:57:23,250 --> 00:57:25,460 But police now say they have evidence 932 00:57:25,460 --> 00:57:26,840 that it was parked there, 933 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,840 to throw off investigators searching for him. 934 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,220 - They woke up to find Gary's backpack 935 00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:40,180 draped on a shovel that they had there. 936 00:57:42,850 --> 00:57:44,350 And when they opened it, 937 00:57:46,860 --> 00:57:49,190 Gary's belongings were in there, 938 00:57:50,860 --> 00:57:52,860 (ominous music) 939 00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:58,870 as well as a severed hand, 940 00:58:01,290 --> 00:58:02,120 Gary's hand. 941 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,000 (ominous music) 942 00:58:22,890 --> 00:58:25,270 - [Bill] The way that his hand was severed 943 00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:28,190 was incredibly violent. 944 00:58:28,190 --> 00:58:32,400 The way that it was chopped off, was just gruesome. 945 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,200 - It was deliberately placed there, 946 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,570 because someone wanted it to be found. 947 00:58:38,570 --> 00:58:40,080 - The forensic showed, 948 00:58:41,370 --> 00:58:45,000 that his hand had been severed, 949 00:58:46,830 --> 00:58:49,670 for more than five weeks. 950 00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:52,920 - And it was still clutching a video camera. 951 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,590 And what's even more crazy was, 952 00:58:58,340 --> 00:59:01,560 the hand wasn't like torn off from a body, 953 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,980 it was a clean cut. 954 00:59:03,980 --> 00:59:05,270 - I was gutted, 955 00:59:07,810 --> 00:59:10,730 by the fact that he had suffered. 956 00:59:11,730 --> 00:59:13,730 - Once the camera was discovered, 957 00:59:13,730 --> 00:59:17,320 everybody wanted to know, is there a tape? 958 00:59:18,530 --> 00:59:20,280 And does the tape work? 959 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,870 And what's on the tape? 960 00:59:22,870 --> 00:59:24,950 (camera shuttering) 961 00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:27,670 - We were very anxious for the crime lab 962 00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:29,170 to process the evidence. 963 00:59:29,170 --> 00:59:30,130 (camera shutters) 964 00:59:30,130 --> 00:59:33,800 And sure enough, when they did, 965 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,090 the memory chip was still in the camera. 966 00:59:37,260 --> 00:59:40,090 (camera shutters) 967 00:59:40,890 --> 00:59:45,100 (ominous music intensifies) 968 00:59:52,650 --> 00:59:56,070 It was truly terrifying to watch 969 00:59:56,070 --> 01:00:01,070 and I can't even imagine the true horror 970 01:00:01,490 --> 01:00:03,160 that he faced out there. 971 01:00:04,330 --> 01:00:08,750 - Bill calls me and the forensic investigators 972 01:00:08,750 --> 01:00:13,710 have video of Gary's final moments 973 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,800 and so they take us into a room. 974 01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:20,720 - The team thought it would be best 975 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:25,100 if I sat down with Beverly and watched the videos with her, 976 01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:28,850 because I had a relationship with her 977 01:00:28,850 --> 01:00:31,600 and I had a kind of a special rapport. 978 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,190 So they thought it would probably be best 979 01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:34,940 if maybe I sat down with her first. 980 01:00:36,980 --> 01:00:38,860 - Bill started the first video 981 01:00:38,860 --> 01:00:45,490 and there was Gary shining his light around, saying hello. 982 01:00:47,830 --> 01:00:52,000 And the innocence in his voice, 983 01:00:54,750 --> 01:00:56,550 I just, 984 01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:59,800 I couldn't do it. 985 01:01:00,930 --> 01:01:02,010 I 986 01:01:03,550 --> 01:01:04,760 I had to stop. 987 01:01:08,020 --> 01:01:11,480 And then Bill finished watching. 988 01:01:16,650 --> 01:01:18,650 (ominous music) 989 01:01:27,330 --> 01:01:29,910 - [Bill] The clips begin like all the other clips, 990 01:01:31,210 --> 01:01:32,750 Gary's even smiling, 991 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,880 but he has no idea what's about to happen. 992 01:01:39,340 --> 01:01:41,760 - Hey guys, a little video update. 993 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,130 I am. 994 01:01:43,130 --> 01:01:43,970 (thunder roars) 995 01:01:43,970 --> 01:01:44,970 Oh, there's thunder. 996 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,600 Storm's coming in, I gotta make this quick. 997 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,270 Got a whole nother ridge line to climb 998 01:01:50,270 --> 01:01:53,640 before I get to the spot where I saw that shelter 999 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,110 but I'm about halfway there, a day and a half in. 1000 01:01:59,530 --> 01:02:00,860 We'll see what we find. 1001 01:02:02,110 --> 01:02:05,570 Climbed over one mountain range already, got one more to go. 1002 01:02:06,660 --> 01:02:08,120 And, better make it quick, 1003 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,370 because that storm's coming in fast. 1004 01:02:11,370 --> 01:02:13,120 We'll see what's on the other side. 1005 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:14,960 I got (muffled speaking) ways to go, 1006 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,130 but, weird thing is, 1007 01:02:16,130 --> 01:02:19,550 I'm already distinctly smelling the smoke, 1008 01:02:19,550 --> 01:02:21,380 like I smelled last time. 1009 01:02:21,380 --> 01:02:24,380 There's no fires around, there shouldn't be anyone out here, 1010 01:02:25,380 --> 01:02:28,260 but it's very faint but very distinct smell of smoke. 1011 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:30,680 Kind of getting creeped out 1012 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,640 but not as much as I was last time yet. 1013 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,390 We'll see what happens. 1014 01:02:35,390 --> 01:02:37,400 Look for another video update soon. 1015 01:02:57,750 --> 01:02:59,340 (beep sound) 1016 01:02:59,340 --> 01:03:02,000 (air whooshing) 1017 01:03:36,790 --> 01:03:38,290 (beep sound) 1018 01:03:38,290 --> 01:03:40,210 (air whooshing) 1019 01:03:40,210 --> 01:03:43,050 (rattling sounds) 1020 01:03:44,260 --> 01:03:47,090 (rattling sounds) 1021 01:04:04,780 --> 01:04:07,570 (camera rattling) 1022 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:10,780 (beep sound) 1023 01:04:10,780 --> 01:04:13,450 (air whooshing) 1024 01:04:18,620 --> 01:04:21,460 (camera rattling) 1025 01:04:23,540 --> 01:04:25,050 (beep sound) 1026 01:04:25,050 --> 01:04:27,720 (air whooshing) 1027 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,910 (air whooshing) 1028 01:04:58,660 --> 01:05:01,580 (gravel crunching) 1029 01:05:03,750 --> 01:05:06,380 (air whooshing) 1030 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,310 (beep sound) 1031 01:05:16,310 --> 01:05:18,970 (air whooshing) 1032 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,200 All right, here's the final marker. 1033 01:05:39,580 --> 01:05:43,170 (indistinct music playing) 1034 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,230 (indistinct ominous music) 1035 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,760 (gravel crunching sounds) 1036 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:42,350 (indistinct ominous music) 1037 01:07:20,220 --> 01:07:21,050 (beep sound) 1038 01:07:21,050 --> 01:07:23,720 (air whooshing) 1039 01:07:29,230 --> 01:07:32,070 (rattling sounds) 1040 01:07:32,940 --> 01:07:33,780 (beep sound) 1041 01:07:33,780 --> 01:07:36,450 (air whooshing) 1042 01:07:42,660 --> 01:07:44,540 (rattling sounds) 1043 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,470 (air whooshing) 1044 01:08:24,330 --> 01:08:27,160 (camera rattling) 1045 01:08:37,340 --> 01:08:40,090 (ominous sounds) 1046 01:08:49,350 --> 01:08:52,940 (indistinct ominous music) 1047 01:09:19,300 --> 01:09:22,180 (camera rattling) 1048 01:09:22,180 --> 01:09:25,760 (indistinct ominous music) 1049 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,440 (fluttering sound) 1050 01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:13,390 (gravel crunching) 1051 01:10:17,230 --> 01:10:20,530 (ticking sound) 1052 01:10:20,530 --> 01:10:23,450 (gravel crunching) 1053 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,060 (beep sound) 1054 01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:58,150 (ticking sound) 1055 01:11:05,070 --> 01:11:07,360 (rattling sounds) 1056 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,120 (gunshot blasts) 1057 01:11:13,620 --> 01:11:16,290 (ticking sound) 1058 01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:18,670 (groaning sounds) 1059 01:11:18,670 --> 01:11:22,250 (gunshot blasts) 1060 01:11:22,250 --> 01:11:25,010 (gunshot blasts) 1061 01:11:38,900 --> 01:11:40,150 (beep sound) 1062 01:11:40,150 --> 01:11:42,520 (gunshot blasts) 1063 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,280 (gunshot blasts) 1064 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,370 (air whooshing) 1065 01:11:54,370 --> 01:11:56,620 (beep sound) 1066 01:11:56,620 --> 01:11:59,370 (ticking sounds) 1067 01:12:07,670 --> 01:12:10,050 (beep sound) 1068 01:12:16,140 --> 01:12:18,730 (camera rattling) 1069 01:12:18,730 --> 01:12:21,480 (ticking sounds) 1070 01:12:29,030 --> 01:12:31,870 (camera rattling) 1071 01:12:47,510 --> 01:12:48,510 (beep sound) 1072 01:12:48,510 --> 01:12:50,760 (rattling sounds) 1073 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,390 (ticking sound) 1074 01:12:54,930 --> 01:12:57,600 (air whooshing) 1075 01:13:03,900 --> 01:13:06,820 (stones crunching) 1076 01:13:33,260 --> 01:13:36,100 (camera rattling) 1077 01:13:43,980 --> 01:13:46,820 (camera rattling) 1078 01:13:53,820 --> 01:13:56,740 (crunching sounds) 1079 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:04,120 (insects fluttering) 1080 01:14:57,300 --> 01:14:59,720 (Gary gasps) 1081 01:15:14,030 --> 01:15:16,700 (air whooshing) 1082 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,540 - [Gal] From what you do see from the person in the video, 1083 01:15:27,540 --> 01:15:31,170 you can tell that they have a lot of physical deformities. 1084 01:15:31,170 --> 01:15:34,050 And it's probably one of the main reasons 1085 01:15:34,050 --> 01:15:38,930 why they chose to live where they lived, 1086 01:15:38,930 --> 01:15:42,220 they felt shunned by society. 1087 01:15:45,060 --> 01:15:48,560 - [Simon] When we found out what actually happened, 1088 01:15:51,060 --> 01:15:53,360 it was like this weight 1089 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:57,780 had been taken off of Beverly and I's relationship. 1090 01:15:57,780 --> 01:16:02,080 And now we're actually really close. 1091 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,000 And I actually consider her kind of a big sister. 1092 01:16:06,710 --> 01:16:08,710 (sentimental music) 1093 01:16:17,420 --> 01:16:18,260 (stones crunching) 1094 01:16:18,260 --> 01:16:22,430 - [Gary] I'm just hiking along, almost to the top. 1095 01:16:24,390 --> 01:16:25,810 Over that mountain side. 1096 01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:31,860 Still some thunder in the distance. 1097 01:16:31,860 --> 01:16:34,320 (ground crunching) 1098 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,190 Amazing how far you can hike 1099 01:16:36,190 --> 01:16:39,530 and only seeing a couple of deer, 1100 01:16:39,530 --> 01:16:42,620 how much wildlife that I've seen, 1101 01:16:42,620 --> 01:16:45,160 I'm sure they see me, stay hidden. 1102 01:16:47,700 --> 01:16:52,710 But just a lot of sagebrush and trees and peaceful desert, 1103 01:16:56,630 --> 01:16:58,210 to walk. 1104 01:16:58,210 --> 01:17:01,930 The great thing about Nevada, wide open spaces. 1105 01:17:05,350 --> 01:17:08,560 - Everybody immediately wants to go and search 1106 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:09,390 for the one thing 1107 01:17:09,390 --> 01:17:12,520 that they've been told not to go search for. 1108 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,940 And so now there's this whole band of influencers 1109 01:17:15,940 --> 01:17:20,950 who are out there wanting to find this person 1110 01:17:22,990 --> 01:17:25,490 and post about it and blog about it 1111 01:17:25,490 --> 01:17:27,870 and make a video about it. 1112 01:17:27,870 --> 01:17:28,660 And, 1113 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,120 to me that's, 1114 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,590 I mean, that's terrifying. 1115 01:17:38,340 --> 01:17:40,340 (ominous music) 84445

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