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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:20,478 --> 00:00:23,064 [man 1] All right. Arthur interview, take one. 2 00:00:23,356 --> 00:00:24,357 [clapperboard clicks] 3 00:00:26,025 --> 00:00:27,402 [interviewer] What do you think? 4 00:00:27,736 --> 00:00:29,612 Like, how do you see yourself? 5 00:00:29,696 --> 00:00:31,990 How do you see the ideas that you're... 6 00:00:32,907 --> 00:00:34,367 something passionate about? 7 00:00:35,076 --> 00:00:36,703 Uh, what is your story? 8 00:00:38,830 --> 00:00:40,832 [tranquil music] 9 00:00:43,585 --> 00:00:45,587 [crowd applauding] 10 00:00:48,298 --> 00:00:51,301 [Arthur] Americans are looking for a new way forward. 11 00:00:52,177 --> 00:00:54,888 Our country is more divided than it's been in years. 12 00:00:55,513 --> 00:00:58,433 And we're leaving too many of our brothers and sisters behind. 13 00:00:59,726 --> 00:01:02,103 People have lost trust in our political leaders 14 00:01:02,187 --> 00:01:03,855 to solve these problems. 15 00:01:04,272 --> 00:01:07,984 They don't think that conservatives actually care about the poor. 16 00:01:08,443 --> 00:01:12,322 And frankly, liberal solutions aren't working either. 17 00:01:13,531 --> 00:01:15,158 [Arthur] My name is Arthur Brooks. 18 00:01:15,700 --> 00:01:17,994 I've spent the last 20 years as a professor 19 00:01:18,078 --> 00:01:20,371 and head of a think tank in Washington D.C. 20 00:01:21,372 --> 00:01:24,459 Working to improve public policy for human welfare. 21 00:01:25,376 --> 00:01:28,254 But, this is pretty far from where I started out. 22 00:01:29,547 --> 00:01:32,008 [presenter] What's this former professor of the French horn, 23 00:01:32,091 --> 00:01:34,469 yes, the French horn, up to? 24 00:01:34,552 --> 00:01:36,179 And how did he reach the top 25 00:01:36,262 --> 00:01:38,848 of the conservative pecking order in Washington? 26 00:01:38,932 --> 00:01:39,933 Arthur Brooks. 27 00:01:40,016 --> 00:01:41,518 -Sir! -[crowd cheers] 28 00:01:41,601 --> 00:01:42,977 [Arthur] I do research. 29 00:01:43,061 --> 00:01:44,562 I travel around the world. 30 00:01:44,646 --> 00:01:46,856 I get to meet with all different kinds of people. 31 00:01:46,940 --> 00:01:48,525 [indistinct chatter] 32 00:01:48,608 --> 00:01:50,610 [Arthur] I'm trying to learn about the best systems 33 00:01:50,693 --> 00:01:52,821 for helping people improve their lives. 34 00:01:53,154 --> 00:01:54,364 [Arthur] Thank you, Mr. President. 35 00:01:54,447 --> 00:01:56,324 It's an honor to be here and with all of you. 36 00:01:56,407 --> 00:01:59,160 The reason I came into the free enterprise movement 37 00:01:59,244 --> 00:02:00,078 many years ago, 38 00:02:00,161 --> 00:02:02,997 is because poverty is the thing I care about the most. 39 00:02:04,666 --> 00:02:06,668 [Arthur] From 1970 until today, 40 00:02:06,751 --> 00:02:09,921 the percentage of the world's population living at starvation's door 41 00:02:10,004 --> 00:02:12,757 has decreased by 80 percent. 42 00:02:13,633 --> 00:02:17,053 Two billion people have been pulled out of starvation level poverty. 43 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:18,096 What did that? 44 00:02:18,179 --> 00:02:21,391 What did that? That was my... vision quest. 45 00:02:21,808 --> 00:02:23,560 To figure out what did that. 46 00:02:24,853 --> 00:02:29,858 I wanted the best answer from mainstream economists 47 00:02:29,941 --> 00:02:31,901 left, right, and center. 48 00:02:32,735 --> 00:02:34,654 [Arthur] I don't claim to have all the answers, 49 00:02:34,863 --> 00:02:37,907 but the answers that I found have truly changed my life. 50 00:02:38,950 --> 00:02:41,077 And I believe it is these same answers 51 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:43,454 that can help to lift up all Americans 52 00:02:43,538 --> 00:02:45,290 and bring us back together as a country. 53 00:02:47,083 --> 00:02:52,005 The point of the American experience is basically a moral consensus 54 00:02:52,088 --> 00:02:56,259 that our society should push opportunity to the people who need it the most. 55 00:02:56,926 --> 00:02:58,344 [Arthur] This is our pursuit, 56 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,056 and it's predicated on two fundamental moral principles. 57 00:03:02,390 --> 00:03:04,517 Human dignity and human potential. 58 00:03:04,976 --> 00:03:07,145 I wanna be a warrior for dignity and potential. 59 00:03:07,228 --> 00:03:08,563 That's what it comes down to. 60 00:03:14,861 --> 00:03:16,863 [upbeat music] 61 00:03:19,449 --> 00:03:20,950 [Arthur] It's 1983, 62 00:03:21,034 --> 00:03:22,452 I'm 19 years old, 63 00:03:22,535 --> 00:03:24,287 and I've just dropped out of college. 64 00:03:24,370 --> 00:03:26,915 I knew I was gonna be a professional French horn player. 65 00:03:26,998 --> 00:03:28,833 What's that? Is that even a job? 66 00:03:29,167 --> 00:03:31,085 [chuckles] It's a thing, it turns out. 67 00:03:31,586 --> 00:03:34,047 I'm on tour in India with my brass quintet. 68 00:03:34,672 --> 00:03:37,634 We're in a pretty questionable airplane 69 00:03:38,009 --> 00:03:39,219 on our way to Calcutta. 70 00:03:39,636 --> 00:03:40,511 And I'm excited, 71 00:03:40,595 --> 00:03:43,598 because this is the first time I've really been out on my own. 72 00:03:44,349 --> 00:03:46,809 We're 30,000 feet above the ground 73 00:03:46,893 --> 00:03:48,686 when the pilot comes over the intercom and says, 74 00:03:48,770 --> 00:03:50,438 what you never want to hear, which is, 75 00:03:50,521 --> 00:03:53,900 "We have a problem, we need to land. Right now." 76 00:03:55,026 --> 00:03:57,612 And so we did, we landed in a city called Chennai. 77 00:03:57,695 --> 00:04:01,616 And we had a stopover that lasted for several days. 78 00:04:03,493 --> 00:04:05,536 I was in a hotel at the edge of a slum. 79 00:04:06,037 --> 00:04:07,372 Then wake up the next morning. 80 00:04:07,997 --> 00:04:10,083 And I start walking around the slum. 81 00:04:10,166 --> 00:04:11,960 And I had never seen anything like it. 82 00:04:15,171 --> 00:04:18,800 I saw poverty like I've never seen before. 83 00:04:19,592 --> 00:04:23,388 I saw starving kids and lepers. 84 00:04:23,972 --> 00:04:25,515 And beggars everyplace. 85 00:04:30,853 --> 00:04:33,398 How could we in America have so much 86 00:04:33,731 --> 00:04:36,734 when other people in the same world had so little? 87 00:04:38,778 --> 00:04:41,155 These are questions that haunted me for years. 88 00:04:44,617 --> 00:04:47,495 [Hindol] Some in the West, uh, have this romantic notion that, 89 00:04:47,578 --> 00:04:49,372 somehow, by poverty, 90 00:04:49,455 --> 00:04:51,791 our souls are getting, you know, burnished 91 00:04:51,874 --> 00:04:55,837 into the radiant light of God or some strange thing like that. 92 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:56,754 It isn't. 93 00:04:56,838 --> 00:04:57,922 We hate being poor. 94 00:05:02,844 --> 00:05:06,180 In 1947, India won independence from Britain. 95 00:05:06,264 --> 00:05:10,143 The tragedy is that between 1947 and 1991, 96 00:05:10,476 --> 00:05:12,395 it remained incredibly poor. 97 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:16,274 [Sadanand] When Mother Teresa was in her heyday, 98 00:05:16,399 --> 00:05:18,484 India was essentially a byword for poverty. 99 00:05:18,568 --> 00:05:20,778 If you thought of a part of the world 100 00:05:20,862 --> 00:05:24,490 that was best known for being crowded, 101 00:05:24,574 --> 00:05:26,659 dirty, and incredibly poor, 102 00:05:27,035 --> 00:05:29,412 it was probably for many people, India. 103 00:05:34,625 --> 00:05:38,212 [man reciting salah] 104 00:05:40,923 --> 00:05:42,133 [Arthur] When I first visited, 105 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:45,636 one of the poorest places in India was a slum in Mumbai 106 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:46,971 called Dharavi. 107 00:05:47,847 --> 00:05:49,390 [Krishna] Hey, look at this guy here. 108 00:05:49,474 --> 00:05:50,433 [Arthur laughs] 109 00:05:51,768 --> 00:05:53,811 [Krishna] He had a shaving yesterday. [grunts] 110 00:05:55,313 --> 00:05:57,565 -He's... he had a shave yesterday. -[Arthur] Really? 111 00:05:57,648 --> 00:05:59,108 -Because he was hot. -[Arthur chuckles] 112 00:05:59,901 --> 00:06:01,944 [Arthur] I've returned to India many times over the years 113 00:06:02,028 --> 00:06:03,446 since my first visit. 114 00:06:04,280 --> 00:06:06,449 Along the way, I met Krishna. 115 00:06:08,493 --> 00:06:10,620 He's this guy who grew up in poverty 116 00:06:10,703 --> 00:06:12,747 in a little village outside of Bangalore. 117 00:06:13,623 --> 00:06:16,334 [Krishna] In Western world, they think slum... 118 00:06:17,126 --> 00:06:21,422 Their idea is poor people or beggars, right? 119 00:06:21,506 --> 00:06:23,341 It's not. It's not true. 120 00:06:23,925 --> 00:06:26,094 [Krishna speaking in Hindi] 121 00:06:26,177 --> 00:06:27,095 [Arthur] Hello. 122 00:06:30,306 --> 00:06:32,016 Even that comes in different sizes, 123 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:33,768 -see the big ones. -[Arthur] Yeah. 124 00:06:33,851 --> 00:06:35,520 See, their painting. This is like... 125 00:06:35,603 --> 00:06:37,855 -Diwali is like very busy season for them. -[Arthur] Yeah. 126 00:06:37,939 --> 00:06:39,857 And also a lot of this stuff, exported. 127 00:06:41,609 --> 00:06:43,653 [Krishna] Seeing Dharavi, I'm sure, nobody begs, right? 128 00:06:43,736 --> 00:06:46,906 I mean, because they're all living their own dignity and pride. 129 00:06:49,617 --> 00:06:51,369 [Arthur] When you go to Dharavi, you see... 130 00:06:52,036 --> 00:06:52,870 a lot. 131 00:06:52,954 --> 00:06:54,747 It's hugely overstimulating. 132 00:06:54,831 --> 00:06:57,375 Intense smells, unbelievable heat, 133 00:06:57,458 --> 00:07:00,169 incredible noise, tons of people. 134 00:07:00,837 --> 00:07:02,839 It has one of the highest population densities 135 00:07:02,922 --> 00:07:04,257 of any area in the world. 136 00:07:05,091 --> 00:07:07,760 This is still one of the poorest urban areas in India. 137 00:07:08,344 --> 00:07:12,390 And to most American eyes, the progress here is not obvious. 138 00:07:12,473 --> 00:07:13,599 But look closer. 139 00:07:13,933 --> 00:07:16,853 In Dharavi and places like it throughout the country, 140 00:07:16,936 --> 00:07:19,313 there's been a rise in living standards 141 00:07:19,397 --> 00:07:22,692 like I have never seen in my life, 142 00:07:22,775 --> 00:07:24,277 or I couldn't have been able to imagine. 143 00:07:25,403 --> 00:07:28,573 [Krishna] When we were children, we didn't have any proper food to eat. 144 00:07:28,656 --> 00:07:30,324 -We were many kids. -[Arthur] How many? 145 00:07:30,658 --> 00:07:32,243 -We are eight kids -[Arthur] Oh, yeah? 146 00:07:32,326 --> 00:07:33,286 Uh... 147 00:07:33,369 --> 00:07:36,414 I remember my dad when, uh, he used to eat... 148 00:07:37,123 --> 00:07:40,001 he used to eat half meal and then half he used to give us 149 00:07:40,084 --> 00:07:41,919 and say, "You guys share it." 150 00:07:43,212 --> 00:07:44,130 [Arthur] See, in the West, 151 00:07:44,213 --> 00:07:46,174 we, we sort of think there hasn't been progress. 152 00:07:46,257 --> 00:07:49,635 We think that poverty in the developing world is hopeless. 153 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:51,304 Nothing can be done. 154 00:07:53,431 --> 00:07:56,392 What I didn't realize in my early visits to India, 155 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:58,728 is that the country had become a battleground 156 00:07:58,811 --> 00:08:01,022 in the 20th-century philosophical war 157 00:08:01,397 --> 00:08:03,649 between capitalism and socialism. 158 00:08:04,442 --> 00:08:07,778 And India, for decades, had chosen the latter. 159 00:08:08,821 --> 00:08:11,115 In India, we had democratic socialism. 160 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:12,992 And everything, of course, was owned by the state. 161 00:08:13,075 --> 00:08:14,577 All the companies were owned by the state. 162 00:08:15,495 --> 00:08:16,746 [Sadanand] This belief in planning, 163 00:08:16,829 --> 00:08:20,208 this belief in the all-knowing bureaucrat. 164 00:08:20,291 --> 00:08:21,834 Uh, as opposed to, what? 165 00:08:21,918 --> 00:08:24,128 The way that people can make their own decisions? 166 00:08:24,212 --> 00:08:25,755 Uh, people know best for themselves. 167 00:08:26,339 --> 00:08:27,715 So for instance, licensing. 168 00:08:27,798 --> 00:08:29,967 Bureaucrats sitting in Delhi could decide, 169 00:08:30,051 --> 00:08:33,387 make production decisions for a firm thousands of miles away. 170 00:08:33,971 --> 00:08:38,559 That can only benefit a very tiny section of the population. 171 00:08:38,643 --> 00:08:42,313 The opposing ideology seemed to promote chaos. 172 00:08:42,396 --> 00:08:44,148 Set people free. [chuckles] 173 00:08:44,232 --> 00:08:46,859 Let people decide what they're going to do with their talent 174 00:08:46,943 --> 00:08:48,819 and their, and their time and their treasure. 175 00:08:48,903 --> 00:08:52,823 And then, they will spontaneously organize in a way that creates the most wealth. 176 00:08:53,032 --> 00:08:55,910 These were the ideas that were at war with each other 177 00:08:55,993 --> 00:08:58,621 for years, decades, as a matter of fact. 178 00:08:58,704 --> 00:09:01,999 And, and most smart people didn't know which was the right approach. 179 00:09:02,750 --> 00:09:03,709 Well, we found out. 180 00:09:06,003 --> 00:09:07,380 [Tom] Good evening, everyone. 181 00:09:07,463 --> 00:09:10,967 From the west side of the Berlin Wall to Brandenburg Gate, I'm Tom Brokaw. 182 00:09:11,050 --> 00:09:12,802 Brandenburg Gate, of course, is in East Berlin. 183 00:09:12,885 --> 00:09:14,178 And the sound that you hear 184 00:09:14,262 --> 00:09:16,806 and what you're seeing tonight, aren't hammers and sickles, 185 00:09:16,889 --> 00:09:17,848 but hammers and chisels 186 00:09:17,932 --> 00:09:20,059 that young people take down this wall, 187 00:09:20,434 --> 00:09:21,477 bit by bit. 188 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,605 [Arthur] With the fall of the Soviet Union, 189 00:09:24,689 --> 00:09:26,941 countries all over the world began to adopt 190 00:09:27,024 --> 00:09:29,068 the core elements of capitalism. 191 00:09:29,610 --> 00:09:30,695 Globalization, 192 00:09:31,404 --> 00:09:32,446 free trade 193 00:09:32,613 --> 00:09:33,990 private property rights, 194 00:09:34,407 --> 00:09:35,658 the rule of law, 195 00:09:35,992 --> 00:09:38,035 and entrepreneurial competition. 196 00:09:38,119 --> 00:09:41,622 The results of all this have been nothing short of miraculous. 197 00:09:42,665 --> 00:09:47,253 [Jagdish] We completely reversed our policies in India in '91 in a big way. 198 00:09:47,336 --> 00:09:49,880 It was a closed system, no competition. 199 00:09:49,964 --> 00:09:52,133 The industry was highly inefficient. 200 00:09:52,466 --> 00:09:56,220 In all areas, we permitted more competition. 201 00:09:56,512 --> 00:09:59,890 Competition is what helps you to improve outcomes. 202 00:10:00,808 --> 00:10:02,643 [reporter 1] The World Bank forecasts India 203 00:10:02,727 --> 00:10:06,731 to be the world's fastest-growing economy in 2016. 204 00:10:06,981 --> 00:10:08,899 [reporter 2] It means India's growth has overtaken 205 00:10:08,983 --> 00:10:11,193 that of fellow Asian giant, China. 206 00:10:11,527 --> 00:10:14,447 [Hindol] You know, today, India is celebrated as this rising economy. 207 00:10:14,530 --> 00:10:16,657 Where has this rising economy come from? 208 00:10:17,074 --> 00:10:19,327 Did it just mushroom out of the blue one day? 209 00:10:19,410 --> 00:10:23,080 No. It happened after 25 years of the economy growing 210 00:10:23,164 --> 00:10:24,582 because of liberalization. 211 00:10:24,707 --> 00:10:26,626 Because we opened the markets. 212 00:10:27,209 --> 00:10:28,961 [Hindol] We were a closed market. 213 00:10:29,045 --> 00:10:30,796 We were a statist economy. 214 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,715 We broke free of all that. 215 00:10:33,007 --> 00:10:36,385 And we sent the companies and our entrepreneurial energies free. 216 00:10:37,261 --> 00:10:40,931 [Krishna] You walk in the narrow, small lanes of Dharavi, 217 00:10:41,015 --> 00:10:42,600 you hear the sound of machineries. 218 00:10:43,059 --> 00:10:44,727 [whirring] 219 00:10:45,895 --> 00:10:49,857 So that's what made me to say, "We have to show this." 220 00:10:50,149 --> 00:10:53,444 [Krishna] Because it's changed my mindset towards Dharavi. 221 00:10:53,861 --> 00:10:55,696 We have garment industries, everything. 222 00:10:55,780 --> 00:10:57,865 More than 10,000 small scale industries. 223 00:10:58,199 --> 00:11:01,285 That is... it's not a slum, it's a, it's a hub of industries. 224 00:11:02,244 --> 00:11:04,080 [Krishna] Like you see the small place here, right? 225 00:11:04,163 --> 00:11:05,790 See, something is set up there. 226 00:11:05,873 --> 00:11:07,124 And all this street you will see, 227 00:11:07,208 --> 00:11:08,459 every inch is used, 228 00:11:08,542 --> 00:11:09,960 -every inch is... -Nothing goes to waste. 229 00:11:10,044 --> 00:11:11,337 There is something... Yeah, nothing is wasted. 230 00:11:11,420 --> 00:11:12,838 But everything is for entrepreneurship. 231 00:11:12,922 --> 00:11:14,215 -Exactly, exactly! -[Arthur chuckles] 232 00:11:14,757 --> 00:11:16,467 [indistinct chatter] 233 00:11:17,676 --> 00:11:19,220 [speaking Hindi] 234 00:11:19,303 --> 00:11:20,971 He's saying, "See, look at my shop," you know. 235 00:11:21,055 --> 00:11:23,140 -[Arthur] Ah, yeah. -[Krishna] See? He is trying to sell me. 236 00:11:23,224 --> 00:11:25,142 -[Arthur] Yeah, yeah. -Look, an entrepreneur. See? 237 00:11:25,226 --> 00:11:27,061 -[laughing] -He said, "Buy something from my shop." 238 00:11:27,603 --> 00:11:28,771 [Krishna] So that's what makes... 239 00:11:29,313 --> 00:11:30,940 this place amazing. 240 00:11:35,111 --> 00:11:37,154 [Arthur] Today, for the first time in its history, 241 00:11:37,238 --> 00:11:38,989 India has a growing middle class. 242 00:11:39,532 --> 00:11:41,659 Even in some of the poorest parts of the country, 243 00:11:41,742 --> 00:11:43,077 there's a sense of progress. 244 00:11:44,453 --> 00:11:47,373 [Hindol] Capitalism allows human beings 245 00:11:47,456 --> 00:11:51,210 to choose an action to fulfill their own destiny. 246 00:11:52,461 --> 00:11:54,422 If it had not been for liberalization, 247 00:11:55,172 --> 00:11:58,217 people in Dharavi, many people in Dharavi... 248 00:11:58,968 --> 00:12:02,596 would never have the opportunities that they have today. 249 00:12:03,013 --> 00:12:04,557 [Hindol] Forget per capita GDP, 250 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,642 we didn't even have per capita hope. 251 00:12:06,725 --> 00:12:09,562 And the markets have given us per capita hope. 252 00:12:09,854 --> 00:12:11,856 [light music] 253 00:12:23,075 --> 00:12:24,577 [Meenakshi in Hindi] Educated or not, 254 00:12:24,660 --> 00:12:26,287 the residents of Dharavi work hard 255 00:12:26,370 --> 00:12:29,540 and have their four square meals. 256 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,002 To run this business, 257 00:12:33,419 --> 00:12:37,381 I sell the potteries worth 10 rupees for 7 rupees. Why is that? 258 00:12:37,465 --> 00:12:40,092 It's because, initially, 259 00:12:40,176 --> 00:12:42,636 when I started my business... [laughs] 260 00:12:43,053 --> 00:12:47,016 ...there was hardly any money with me. 261 00:12:49,059 --> 00:12:54,023 Now, I take care of my kids' studies and the household expenses. 262 00:12:54,106 --> 00:12:57,735 All I want is to educate both my sons. 263 00:12:58,652 --> 00:13:03,073 If they study well and get good jobs, my fortune will revive. 264 00:13:03,157 --> 00:13:04,992 Otherwise, nothing's going to change. 265 00:13:09,038 --> 00:13:10,372 [Krishna] You know, we have a saying, 266 00:13:10,456 --> 00:13:12,875 uh, "If you make your hand dirty, 267 00:13:12,958 --> 00:13:15,127 you will get the curd to eat." 268 00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:17,963 You understand? Because you do your work, you know? 269 00:13:18,047 --> 00:13:19,840 You don't say it's dirty, you know? 270 00:13:21,425 --> 00:13:23,719 [Hindol] I, I don't argue that the markets are always perfect. 271 00:13:23,802 --> 00:13:25,930 What is ever always perfect? 272 00:13:26,013 --> 00:13:28,516 But for the poor people, those people living in Dharavi, 273 00:13:28,599 --> 00:13:29,600 they're proud of it. 274 00:13:29,683 --> 00:13:31,227 They're building their lives. 275 00:13:34,563 --> 00:13:36,273 [Sadanand] If you look at the impact on poverty, 276 00:13:36,357 --> 00:13:38,526 the basic trajectory of the country has changed. 277 00:13:38,609 --> 00:13:41,570 If India had not adopted economic reforms, 278 00:13:41,654 --> 00:13:45,533 there would be 375 million poor people more 279 00:13:45,950 --> 00:13:47,368 in the country today. 280 00:13:47,451 --> 00:13:49,161 And next to China, 281 00:13:49,245 --> 00:13:52,665 this has been the greatest eradication of human poverty, 282 00:13:52,748 --> 00:13:54,041 uh, on the planet. 283 00:13:57,044 --> 00:13:59,171 [Arthur] The progress in India over the past decades 284 00:13:59,255 --> 00:14:00,548 has been extraordinary. 285 00:14:01,006 --> 00:14:03,509 It turns conventional wisdom on its head. 286 00:14:03,968 --> 00:14:05,594 Things are not getting worse. 287 00:14:05,678 --> 00:14:06,762 They're getting better. 288 00:14:07,137 --> 00:14:08,556 [Arthur] And India's not alone. 289 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:10,057 Since 1970, 290 00:14:10,140 --> 00:14:13,894 the percentage of the world's population living extreme poverty, 291 00:14:13,978 --> 00:14:15,729 on one dollar a day or less 292 00:14:16,063 --> 00:14:18,399 has declined by 80 percent. 293 00:14:19,066 --> 00:14:21,110 Two billion people around the world 294 00:14:21,193 --> 00:14:24,071 have lifted themselves out of extreme poverty. 295 00:14:24,154 --> 00:14:27,032 Infant mortality has fallen by 60 percent. 296 00:14:28,242 --> 00:14:31,328 Literacy around the world continues to increase 297 00:14:31,412 --> 00:14:32,872 year after year. 298 00:14:34,957 --> 00:14:37,543 And the people who have benefited the most from this 299 00:14:37,626 --> 00:14:38,836 is not the rich. 300 00:14:38,961 --> 00:14:41,338 It's those at the very bottom of the economic ladder. 301 00:14:49,054 --> 00:14:52,141 [ship horn honking] 302 00:14:55,644 --> 00:14:57,646 [tranquil music] 303 00:15:00,149 --> 00:15:02,151 [Arthur] When you go to a place like Dharavi, 304 00:15:02,234 --> 00:15:04,278 and you have a sense of American history, 305 00:15:04,820 --> 00:15:06,405 one of the things that you notice 306 00:15:06,780 --> 00:15:09,533 is that the circumstances are very different, 307 00:15:09,617 --> 00:15:11,827 because Dharavi exists in the modern world. 308 00:15:11,952 --> 00:15:15,372 But the level of material success and deprivation that you see 309 00:15:15,456 --> 00:15:16,832 is more or less 310 00:15:16,957 --> 00:15:19,585 what you would have found in New York in the 19th century. 311 00:15:21,003 --> 00:15:22,338 What's the lesson from that? 312 00:15:23,255 --> 00:15:28,093 The lesson is, they are us, separated by time. 313 00:15:31,263 --> 00:15:33,432 [Arthur] My great grandparents emigrated from Denmark 314 00:15:33,515 --> 00:15:34,975 in the early 1900s. 315 00:15:35,309 --> 00:15:37,978 They were every bit as poor as the people of Dharavi. 316 00:15:38,812 --> 00:15:41,815 And they picked up and moved because they thought they could, 317 00:15:41,899 --> 00:15:44,735 and because they were ambitious and entrepreneurial. 318 00:15:45,611 --> 00:15:48,989 They worked hard every day, bought a farm in South Dakota. 319 00:15:49,073 --> 00:15:51,784 And after a generation, my family was no longer poor. 320 00:15:54,328 --> 00:15:57,331 We're a nation of people who had to start from scratch. 321 00:15:58,415 --> 00:16:01,919 Under our Constitution and system of free enterprise, 322 00:16:02,002 --> 00:16:06,590 the American people managed to build the most successful, most innovative, 323 00:16:06,674 --> 00:16:09,259 and most charitable upwardly mobile society 324 00:16:09,343 --> 00:16:11,011 in all of human history. 325 00:16:12,221 --> 00:16:14,139 Across the economic spectrum, 326 00:16:14,223 --> 00:16:17,434 people in America generally live materially better lives 327 00:16:17,518 --> 00:16:19,478 than almost anywhere else in the world. 328 00:16:19,895 --> 00:16:22,314 Which is why, year after year, 329 00:16:22,398 --> 00:16:25,025 people continue to come to the United States, 330 00:16:25,109 --> 00:16:26,485 seeking opportunity. 331 00:16:28,070 --> 00:16:31,573 The backbone of the United States 332 00:16:31,657 --> 00:16:34,994 is people who believe that progress is possible. 333 00:16:35,411 --> 00:16:37,371 [birds chirping] 334 00:16:43,085 --> 00:16:46,005 [Marc] I didn't want to buy this truck. I wanted to buy a big ol' nice truck, 335 00:16:46,088 --> 00:16:47,756 because I wanted to look cool in it, right? 336 00:16:48,173 --> 00:16:49,800 My family and my grandfather were telling me, 337 00:16:49,883 --> 00:16:52,428 "Hey, man. Think smart. Think, you know, economically. 338 00:16:52,511 --> 00:16:54,805 You're barely starting your business. You have very little money." 339 00:16:54,888 --> 00:16:56,140 They made me buy the truck. 340 00:16:58,475 --> 00:17:00,477 Yeah, I told my daughter, "I'm gonna fix his truck up... 341 00:17:01,186 --> 00:17:02,438 I'm gonna repaint it, 342 00:17:02,521 --> 00:17:03,814 and I'm gonna give it to you." 343 00:17:04,231 --> 00:17:06,275 "I don't want that truck, Dad. I want me a new... 344 00:17:06,358 --> 00:17:08,068 uh, convertible or something." 345 00:17:08,152 --> 00:17:08,986 You know? 346 00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:11,363 I said, "No." I said, "If you can drive this one 347 00:17:12,197 --> 00:17:14,283 for two years, and then I'll buy you a brand-new car. 348 00:17:14,366 --> 00:17:16,118 But you've got to start out with this one." 349 00:17:16,201 --> 00:17:17,327 She, she doesn't want it. 350 00:17:17,619 --> 00:17:19,329 But I think I'm gonna make her have it anyway. 351 00:17:19,413 --> 00:17:20,789 [Marc laughs] 352 00:17:20,873 --> 00:17:22,291 [Marc] You think y'all finish 'em today? 353 00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:23,584 [worker] Hoping so. 354 00:17:23,667 --> 00:17:25,169 [Marc] We've gotta do 33 of them. 355 00:17:25,586 --> 00:17:27,171 -[worker] Thought it was 36. -[Marc] It's 33. 356 00:17:27,254 --> 00:17:29,590 -[worker] Thirty-three? You recounted 'em? -[Marc] Yeah, it's 33. 357 00:17:29,673 --> 00:17:31,383 [Marc] So I was living a, a negative lifestyle. 358 00:17:32,468 --> 00:17:35,637 Just kind of stopped caring, hanging around back with my old friends, 359 00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:38,849 got involved with the gang more deeply again. 360 00:17:39,892 --> 00:17:41,268 Well, I would smuggle drugs, 361 00:17:42,019 --> 00:17:44,730 and bring them from Mexico over here and then I would sell 'em. 362 00:17:45,856 --> 00:17:47,566 And then it got to a point in my life 363 00:17:47,649 --> 00:17:49,485 where I didn't abandon my daughter, 364 00:17:49,568 --> 00:17:51,403 but I had to leave her because of my mistakes. 365 00:17:51,487 --> 00:17:52,613 I went to prison. 366 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,742 And, and it destroyed me... 367 00:17:58,077 --> 00:17:59,244 for a long time. 368 00:18:00,496 --> 00:18:02,122 [sighs deeply] 369 00:18:03,749 --> 00:18:05,793 [Marc] I knew that I had to make a change somehow. 370 00:18:05,876 --> 00:18:07,836 I knew that I couldn't come out that same person. 371 00:18:08,587 --> 00:18:09,588 I didn't have anything. 372 00:18:10,130 --> 00:18:12,925 And the only thing I had was, was to motivate myself, 373 00:18:13,008 --> 00:18:16,428 and to build something from nothing, which we have. 374 00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:19,807 [Marc] Me and my brother, we've started this business 375 00:18:19,890 --> 00:18:21,725 with two shovels and a wheelbarrow. 376 00:18:22,518 --> 00:18:24,061 I started this from the ground up. 377 00:18:24,144 --> 00:18:26,063 I learned from the bottom, all the way from the bottom, 378 00:18:26,146 --> 00:18:29,149 from digging ditches, to setting the farm, to carpentry work. 379 00:18:29,233 --> 00:18:31,276 I've been there. I know what it is to bend over, 380 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:33,695 grab the shovel, dig, sweat for hours, 381 00:18:33,862 --> 00:18:35,280 work when you don't wanna work. 382 00:18:35,697 --> 00:18:38,158 Whatever we've gotta do, however hard we got to work 383 00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:40,035 to get the American Dream, honestly, 384 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,662 then that's what we're gonna do, you know? 385 00:18:44,915 --> 00:18:46,625 [Arthur] The American free enterprise system 386 00:18:46,708 --> 00:18:48,252 is our gift to the world. 387 00:18:48,335 --> 00:18:50,587 And is the secret for all of us to... 388 00:18:50,671 --> 00:18:52,339 to pull up the least fortunate, 389 00:18:52,422 --> 00:18:54,424 most marginalized members in our own societies. 390 00:18:54,508 --> 00:18:57,010 And to share those values with people all around the world. 391 00:18:57,094 --> 00:18:59,096 [calm music] 392 00:19:14,069 --> 00:19:15,571 Oh, man. 393 00:19:15,654 --> 00:19:17,948 [Arthur] When I was a kid, I knew for sure, 394 00:19:18,031 --> 00:19:18,907 where my vote came down. 395 00:19:18,991 --> 00:19:19,908 [chuckles] 396 00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:22,786 I was all about art music. That's all I wanted to do. 397 00:19:23,954 --> 00:19:26,248 So I painted every day with my mom after school, 398 00:19:26,331 --> 00:19:28,792 and then I... when I was four, I started violin. 399 00:19:28,876 --> 00:19:30,294 When I was five, I started piano. 400 00:19:30,377 --> 00:19:31,962 When I was nine, I started the French horn. 401 00:19:32,045 --> 00:19:34,006 And that's the one that really captured my imagination. 402 00:19:34,089 --> 00:19:35,257 So I was really good at it. 403 00:19:36,925 --> 00:19:38,093 Oh, yeah. 404 00:19:39,428 --> 00:19:40,762 [chuckles] Oh, yeah. 405 00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:44,099 [Arthur] When I was 25, I moved to Barcelona. 406 00:19:44,683 --> 00:19:47,311 I ended up taking a job in the Barcelona orchestra. 407 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:50,814 Actually, I didn't move there because of the orchestra, 408 00:19:51,857 --> 00:19:53,650 I went there because I was chasing a girl. 409 00:19:54,026 --> 00:19:57,112 This is exactly, exactly the same. 410 00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:01,617 [Arthur] When I came here, I didn't even know the language. 411 00:20:02,242 --> 00:20:03,702 [laughing] 412 00:20:03,785 --> 00:20:05,662 [Arthur] Somehow, I convinced her to marry me. 413 00:20:05,996 --> 00:20:07,206 Oh, man. 414 00:20:07,831 --> 00:20:10,042 [Arthur] That was 27 years ago when we got married. 415 00:20:10,792 --> 00:20:12,961 -You remember this? -[Ester] Mm-hm, yep. 416 00:20:17,841 --> 00:20:19,718 [Arthur] You know, it actually looks smaller. 417 00:20:21,178 --> 00:20:22,512 [Ester] It does look small. 418 00:20:22,596 --> 00:20:24,431 It looks smaller. It's like there were... 419 00:20:26,808 --> 00:20:29,728 thousands more people in here that could fit in here. 420 00:20:33,649 --> 00:20:34,775 [chuckles] 421 00:20:34,858 --> 00:20:36,360 [Ester] You've been in the States too long. 422 00:20:36,443 --> 00:20:38,237 -I know, I know, I know. -[Ester chuckles] 423 00:20:40,322 --> 00:20:42,908 [Arthur] Barcelona is the most hard read place in Spain. 424 00:20:42,991 --> 00:20:45,702 And Spain is a pretty left-wing country. 425 00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:47,996 So, she's got this family that... 426 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,748 that she'd been hearing since she was a kid. 427 00:20:51,375 --> 00:20:53,835 [Ester in Spanish] We put the anchovies on the table, right? 428 00:20:53,919 --> 00:20:55,629 -[Arthur] Yes. -[Ester] Or did you eat them all? 429 00:20:55,712 --> 00:20:57,172 -[Arthur] It's okay. -[Ester] Okay. 430 00:20:59,466 --> 00:21:01,802 [background chatter] 431 00:21:05,597 --> 00:21:07,307 [Ester] I didn't like Americans. 432 00:21:07,391 --> 00:21:09,893 I thought America was imperialistic, 433 00:21:10,185 --> 00:21:13,647 materialistic, capitalistic society. 434 00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:16,483 I hated it. Like everybody else around me. 435 00:21:16,566 --> 00:21:20,904 So... But I meet this American guy and traveled there with him a few times. 436 00:21:20,988 --> 00:21:23,657 I said, "Wait, this is not like I thought, right?" 437 00:21:23,740 --> 00:21:26,827 I learned English and I changed because of him. 438 00:21:26,910 --> 00:21:29,413 He showed me that Americans were okay. 439 00:21:29,538 --> 00:21:32,124 [Ester in Spanish] We were like everyone else here. 440 00:21:32,207 --> 00:21:34,042 -Right? We were like everyone else. -[old woman] Yes. 441 00:21:34,126 --> 00:21:35,544 -But with-- -No. 442 00:21:36,044 --> 00:21:38,463 -The Arthur here, a person... -No, no. 443 00:21:38,547 --> 00:21:41,758 Not Arthur. Arthur said the people change. 444 00:21:41,842 --> 00:21:43,051 The factor changes. 445 00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:45,345 No, but I was an idiot. 446 00:21:45,429 --> 00:21:46,638 -Yes, but no. -There are different kinds of idiot. 447 00:21:46,722 --> 00:21:47,806 -There are different kinds of idiot. -I have a picture of you. 448 00:21:47,889 --> 00:21:49,558 -There are different kinds of idiot. -[laughing] 449 00:21:49,641 --> 00:21:52,019 [in Spanish] I remember when I came here to live, 450 00:21:52,102 --> 00:21:53,353 it was different compared to now. 451 00:21:53,437 --> 00:21:55,689 Here, I see the change. 452 00:21:56,064 --> 00:21:59,568 I came here in the year '89, right? 453 00:22:00,235 --> 00:22:01,653 Then married after. 454 00:22:01,862 --> 00:22:03,530 And it was the post-Franco era. 455 00:22:03,613 --> 00:22:06,158 But I come now and it is amazing. 456 00:22:06,241 --> 00:22:08,243 It's just that a lot of people, a lot of those, 457 00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:09,953 I don’t know how many shops had to close. 458 00:22:10,037 --> 00:22:11,330 [woman 1 speaking Spanish] 459 00:22:11,413 --> 00:22:16,501 Because during Franco’s government there was more middle class. 460 00:22:16,585 --> 00:22:17,961 -[Arthur] Okay, then. -Mm. 461 00:22:18,045 --> 00:22:19,129 [man] When there was more... 462 00:22:19,421 --> 00:22:23,133 And if Franco did something, and he did a lot of things, 463 00:22:24,009 --> 00:22:27,888 it was creating a middle class that has almost disappeared nowadays. 464 00:22:27,971 --> 00:22:29,181 [Arthur in Spanish] Yes, it's that. 465 00:22:29,264 --> 00:22:32,100 That every time you come here, change is worse. 466 00:22:32,517 --> 00:22:34,227 -Do you believe that? -[Ester in Spanish] I do. 467 00:22:34,394 --> 00:22:35,520 Its promises... 468 00:22:36,146 --> 00:22:38,023 [Arthur] I go back to Barcelona all the time. 469 00:22:38,106 --> 00:22:39,775 And just like in the US, 470 00:22:39,858 --> 00:22:42,360 people are convinced that the system is failing them. 471 00:22:42,652 --> 00:22:46,823 [man shouting on PA] 472 00:22:49,826 --> 00:22:51,369 [in Spanish] [man 3] Yes, we can! 473 00:22:51,453 --> 00:22:53,121 [crowd] Documents and contract! 474 00:22:53,205 --> 00:22:54,748 [man 3] Yes, we can! 475 00:22:54,831 --> 00:22:56,708 [crowd] Documents and contract! 476 00:22:57,334 --> 00:23:00,045 [Arthur] In Spain, there's a movement called 15-M, 477 00:23:00,128 --> 00:23:02,297 which means the 15th of March. 478 00:23:02,547 --> 00:23:04,966 Which was the day that, 479 00:23:05,050 --> 00:23:07,636 sort of the Spanish Occupy movement got kicked off. 480 00:23:07,886 --> 00:23:09,513 [crowd chanting] 481 00:23:09,596 --> 00:23:11,807 [Arthur] It's pretty hard to find people in Barcelona 482 00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:13,725 who are not on the hard left. 483 00:23:13,809 --> 00:23:17,604 What I wanted to do was to actually interview them 484 00:23:17,813 --> 00:23:20,857 and ask them their views of free enterprise. 485 00:23:20,941 --> 00:23:24,319 And of what American ideas are doing in the world. 486 00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:26,988 [man 3 in Spanish] Good evening. 487 00:23:27,364 --> 00:23:29,866 [man 4 in Spanish] I’m a full anti-capitalist. 488 00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:31,159 I’m shameless. 489 00:23:31,243 --> 00:23:32,994 [Arthur] Capitalism gets a pretty bad rep. 490 00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:36,164 And the reason is because ordinary, good-hearted people 491 00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:39,626 look around and they see exploitation... 492 00:23:39,876 --> 00:23:42,254 which exists, and they see discrimination, which exists, 493 00:23:42,337 --> 00:23:44,548 and they see environmental degradation, which exists. 494 00:23:44,756 --> 00:23:48,301 They see a system that kind of holds people down 495 00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:50,011 and takes their stuff. 496 00:23:50,095 --> 00:23:51,263 They see fat cats, 497 00:23:51,346 --> 00:23:53,014 who have a special deal into the government. 498 00:23:53,098 --> 00:23:54,850 I say, "No, no, no, that's not capitalism." 499 00:23:54,933 --> 00:23:55,976 [chuckles] 500 00:23:56,059 --> 00:23:57,519 That's cronyism. 501 00:23:57,602 --> 00:23:59,146 That's wired deals. 502 00:23:59,229 --> 00:24:01,940 That's the antithesis of what a free society is all about. 503 00:24:03,525 --> 00:24:06,319 I like to think that I understand other people's point of view, 504 00:24:06,403 --> 00:24:08,155 but I don't always. 505 00:24:08,405 --> 00:24:09,739 I have to remember 506 00:24:09,823 --> 00:24:12,450 that people have different experiences than I have. 507 00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:16,246 Which is animating them to hold a different point of view. 508 00:24:16,329 --> 00:24:17,956 [in Spanish] What we have to consider 509 00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:19,833 is the system we want to transform. 510 00:24:19,916 --> 00:24:22,460 We wanted to welcome you 511 00:24:22,544 --> 00:24:25,630 and make a symbolic action with all of you. 512 00:24:26,631 --> 00:24:28,341 I don't mind 513 00:24:28,425 --> 00:24:29,801 if there's very rich people, 514 00:24:29,885 --> 00:24:31,344 if there isn't very poor people. 515 00:24:31,428 --> 00:24:32,429 Yeah, yeah. 516 00:24:32,512 --> 00:24:34,389 -The problem is inequality. -Yeah, yeah. 517 00:24:34,472 --> 00:24:35,807 -Not accumulation per se. -Yeah, yeah. 518 00:24:35,891 --> 00:24:37,142 Wealth and poverty aren't marked 519 00:24:37,225 --> 00:24:38,810 -by having much or less money... -Yeah, yeah. 520 00:24:38,894 --> 00:24:40,937 but by someone very rich living next to someone very poor. 521 00:24:41,021 --> 00:24:43,315 [in Spanish] Yes, but do you think someone 522 00:24:43,398 --> 00:24:45,859 could or should be able 523 00:24:45,942 --> 00:24:47,569 -to set up a business? -Absolutely. 524 00:24:47,652 --> 00:24:50,697 So you are okay with this part of capitalism. 525 00:24:50,780 --> 00:24:51,990 This is not capitalism. 526 00:24:52,073 --> 00:24:53,783 -That's... -Anyone can set up their own business. 527 00:24:53,867 --> 00:24:54,993 [crowd cheering, applauding] 528 00:24:55,076 --> 00:24:56,953 [Arthur] Juanma is a smart guy. [snickers] 529 00:24:57,329 --> 00:25:00,624 [Arthur] One of his big causes is what he calls anti-capitalism. 530 00:25:00,749 --> 00:25:03,210 I'm thinking, "You're not anti-capitalist, 531 00:25:03,293 --> 00:25:06,171 you're anti some idea of capitalism 532 00:25:06,254 --> 00:25:08,048 that exists in the ether." 533 00:25:09,382 --> 00:25:15,472 [Arthur speaking Spanish] 534 00:25:15,805 --> 00:25:20,143 -[speaking Spanish] -Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 535 00:25:22,938 --> 00:25:26,983 -[continues speaking Spanish] -Yeah, yeah. 536 00:25:28,985 --> 00:25:30,779 [Arthur in English] I understand that ideology, 537 00:25:30,862 --> 00:25:32,530 and I understand that it dies hard. 538 00:25:32,614 --> 00:25:34,532 Because it's... it's very difficult 539 00:25:34,616 --> 00:25:36,451 for people to get their minds around the idea that... 540 00:25:36,910 --> 00:25:39,663 the best way for you to help poor people 541 00:25:39,746 --> 00:25:43,750 is the very system that you thought was rigged against the poor. 542 00:25:44,417 --> 00:25:46,336 [Arthur] If you worry about inequality 543 00:25:46,419 --> 00:25:48,713 and say that capitalism doesn't wipe it out, 544 00:25:48,797 --> 00:25:50,131 you're simply going to say, 545 00:25:50,215 --> 00:25:52,842 "I am just as happy bringing the top down 546 00:25:52,926 --> 00:25:54,844 as I am bringing the bottom up." 547 00:25:55,095 --> 00:25:56,721 If you want to be a social justice warrior 548 00:25:56,805 --> 00:26:00,392 to bring people to their highest levels of dignity and potential. 549 00:26:00,475 --> 00:26:03,353 If you believe that we're all created equal, 550 00:26:03,436 --> 00:26:05,438 you should be a warrior for opportunity. 551 00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:08,692 [tranquil music] 552 00:26:09,901 --> 00:26:13,071 [speaking Spanish] 553 00:26:13,989 --> 00:26:15,532 [woman speaking Spanish] 554 00:26:15,949 --> 00:26:21,705 [Arthur speaking Spanish] 555 00:26:29,379 --> 00:26:33,383 [continues speaking Spanish] 556 00:26:34,509 --> 00:26:38,388 [Arthur in English] I presented capitalism as the face of... 557 00:26:39,014 --> 00:26:40,640 people who want to help the world. 558 00:26:40,724 --> 00:26:42,851 And that's something that most people haven't heard before. 559 00:26:42,934 --> 00:26:44,602 Most people in America haven't heard that. 560 00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:51,484 What I've seen on NYU's campus 561 00:26:51,568 --> 00:26:53,987 and what I've seen in polls all over. 562 00:26:54,404 --> 00:26:57,115 Fifty-one percent of people between 18 and 29 563 00:26:57,198 --> 00:26:59,659 no longer support the system of capitalism. 564 00:27:00,076 --> 00:27:02,287 Capitalism is a cancer. 565 00:27:02,370 --> 00:27:04,289 And it's a... it's a pathology. 566 00:27:04,372 --> 00:27:05,582 It's a... it's a sickness. 567 00:27:05,665 --> 00:27:07,876 [woman 2] We need to stop investing in privatization. 568 00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:10,920 We need to start worrying about the 99 percent of the population. 569 00:27:11,379 --> 00:27:12,797 Uh, we need to... 570 00:27:13,298 --> 00:27:15,884 start investing our money into social welfare programs 571 00:27:15,967 --> 00:27:17,802 and worrying about the middle to lower class, 572 00:27:17,886 --> 00:27:20,513 because we are not truly a great nation 573 00:27:20,597 --> 00:27:24,351 until all of us are strong and all of us are prospering. 574 00:27:25,352 --> 00:27:27,187 [crowd chanting indistinctly] 575 00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:29,439 [Arthur] Here's the great irony of our times. 576 00:27:29,522 --> 00:27:31,524 People across the political spectrum 577 00:27:31,608 --> 00:27:33,735 in the wealthiest countries in the world 578 00:27:33,943 --> 00:27:36,363 are increasingly turning against the very system 579 00:27:36,446 --> 00:27:38,323 that's lifted us out of poverty. 580 00:27:38,406 --> 00:27:40,450 [crowd] Cuts? No way! 581 00:27:40,533 --> 00:27:42,744 Make the corporations pay! 582 00:27:43,328 --> 00:27:45,789 [Arthur] Even in the US, where support for socialist parties 583 00:27:45,872 --> 00:27:47,374 is small compared to Europe, 584 00:27:47,707 --> 00:27:49,084 support is growing quickly. 585 00:27:50,502 --> 00:27:53,129 Increasing numbers of young people are leaning towards 586 00:27:53,213 --> 00:27:55,799 something called democratic socialism. 587 00:27:56,132 --> 00:27:58,134 [gloomy music] 588 00:28:00,887 --> 00:28:04,933 How do you talk to young people about... capitalism? 589 00:28:05,016 --> 00:28:05,850 So... 590 00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:09,562 Pretend I don't know anything about capitalism. 591 00:28:10,271 --> 00:28:12,482 How do you describe how the capitalism... 592 00:28:12,607 --> 00:28:14,609 How the capital system works today? 593 00:28:14,692 --> 00:28:17,195 Well, capitalism still is a system 594 00:28:17,278 --> 00:28:20,990 where a... goods and services are produced for profit. 595 00:28:21,074 --> 00:28:26,246 And where investment is controlled by capitalists or large shareholders 596 00:28:26,621 --> 00:28:28,206 or their appointed managers. 597 00:28:28,289 --> 00:28:30,417 And where workers, working people generally, 598 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:33,420 have only their labor to sell because they don't own the capital. 599 00:28:33,503 --> 00:28:36,131 So the question is, is capitalism a democratic? 600 00:28:36,214 --> 00:28:39,634 [Joseph] And that do working people have any voice over how they produce 601 00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:40,677 what they produce? 602 00:28:40,802 --> 00:28:44,556 And then the inequalities that most capital systems generate, 603 00:28:44,639 --> 00:28:47,809 you know, don't they have to be redressed by some degree 604 00:28:47,892 --> 00:28:49,936 of government intervention, social welfare programs. 605 00:28:50,019 --> 00:28:52,731 So that... Is that the biggest problem that you see today? 606 00:28:52,814 --> 00:28:55,984 Is that capitalism, as we practice in the United States, 607 00:28:56,526 --> 00:28:58,653 is fundamentally undemocratic? 608 00:28:59,154 --> 00:29:01,114 I'd say it's undemocratic and fundamentally, 609 00:29:01,197 --> 00:29:04,075 it doesn't fill its own claim to have equality of opportunity. 610 00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:07,203 [Mary] I talk to younger people. 611 00:29:07,287 --> 00:29:08,788 There's a discontent 612 00:29:08,872 --> 00:29:11,040 in the field in terms of how this is working. 613 00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:14,544 The American Dream is always predicated on 614 00:29:14,627 --> 00:29:17,338 "You work hard, you get the right grade, 615 00:29:17,422 --> 00:29:19,924 you go to the right schools or get the right trade 616 00:29:20,008 --> 00:29:22,135 or whatever else, you're going to make it." 617 00:29:22,469 --> 00:29:24,137 And a lot of time, 618 00:29:24,721 --> 00:29:25,597 it doesn't work that way. 619 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,517 Sometimes, it's because of, you know, life gives you a bad hand, 620 00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:31,978 but sometimes, it's... as was brought up earlier, 621 00:29:32,061 --> 00:29:35,190 we all don't have the same platform 622 00:29:35,815 --> 00:29:38,359 of being able to have a certain chance and opportunity. 623 00:29:38,443 --> 00:29:39,944 And sometimes that's because of being born 624 00:29:40,028 --> 00:29:41,529 in a certain end of economic place 625 00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:44,073 or have generations who are in a certain economic place. 626 00:29:44,449 --> 00:29:49,454 We don't get a real voice in this country anymore. 627 00:29:49,871 --> 00:29:52,457 Until unfortunately, things get to an extreme. 628 00:29:52,540 --> 00:29:55,126 You know, I hear a lot of discomfort with markets 629 00:29:55,210 --> 00:29:57,086 sorting out economic problems, 630 00:29:57,170 --> 00:29:58,713 because either it's really undemocratic 631 00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:01,007 -or... or frankly, it's just unfair. -[Mary] Mm-hm. 632 00:30:01,090 --> 00:30:04,219 What countries should we be learning from, in your view? 633 00:30:04,302 --> 00:30:07,764 I would look at the Scandinavian countries in terms of the social welfare state. 634 00:30:07,847 --> 00:30:10,350 In terms of state regulation of the economy, 635 00:30:10,433 --> 00:30:11,976 in terms of labor rights. 636 00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:14,062 [Joseph] They're much more developed than our own country. 637 00:30:14,145 --> 00:30:16,189 I do think one reason why younger people 638 00:30:16,272 --> 00:30:18,358 would say that socialism is preferable to capitalism 639 00:30:18,441 --> 00:30:21,444 and they're more enthusiastic about socialism than capitalism, 640 00:30:21,528 --> 00:30:23,029 you know, 30 and under, 641 00:30:23,112 --> 00:30:25,031 is that they vaguely associate socialism 642 00:30:25,114 --> 00:30:28,034 with a more egalitarian and more socially mobile society. 643 00:30:28,117 --> 00:30:29,869 And I think they think of Scandinavia. 644 00:30:29,953 --> 00:30:31,955 [light music] 645 00:30:42,006 --> 00:30:44,008 [light music continues] 646 00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:51,182 [Arthur] For years, I've been looking at these surveys 647 00:30:51,266 --> 00:30:53,434 that talk about happiness from different places in the world, 648 00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:55,061 and they always come to the same conclusion, 649 00:30:55,144 --> 00:30:56,771 that Danes are happiest. 650 00:30:58,982 --> 00:31:01,401 [Arthur] A lot of people in the United States say 651 00:31:01,484 --> 00:31:03,653 this is the modern Shangri-la. 652 00:31:03,945 --> 00:31:06,906 We should build our own country around the principles of Danish happiness. 653 00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:09,200 We should have a, a government like this. 654 00:31:09,284 --> 00:31:11,077 We should have a social welfare state like this. 655 00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:15,415 [Arthur] Look, my great-grandparents were Danish. 656 00:31:15,498 --> 00:31:16,416 [people shrieking] 657 00:31:16,499 --> 00:31:19,502 [Arthur] They left Denmark for America in search of opportunity. 658 00:31:21,087 --> 00:31:22,547 Did they make the wrong call? 659 00:31:23,131 --> 00:31:25,800 Would my family been better off if they had stayed? 660 00:31:28,303 --> 00:31:30,972 [Mogens] No political system can make people happy. 661 00:31:31,055 --> 00:31:34,893 But we had political systems that can remove a number of reasons 662 00:31:34,976 --> 00:31:36,394 for them to be unhappy. 663 00:31:36,477 --> 00:31:38,771 [piano playing] 664 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:42,692 [people singing in Danish] 665 00:31:54,162 --> 00:31:56,164 [singing continues] 666 00:32:18,436 --> 00:32:20,730 [Arthur] These were the songs that you sang when you were a child? 667 00:32:20,813 --> 00:32:22,440 -[man 5] Yeah, yeah, yeah. -[Arthur] In school? 668 00:32:22,523 --> 00:32:24,150 -And that's what you would want? -[man 5] Yeah. 669 00:32:24,233 --> 00:32:25,985 To do it together in the morning and start the day. 670 00:32:26,069 --> 00:32:28,738 -Yeah. That's the main idea to... -Uh-huh. 671 00:32:28,821 --> 00:32:32,450 And go out into the day and in a... in good spirits. 672 00:32:32,533 --> 00:32:34,535 [people singing in Danish] 673 00:32:36,746 --> 00:32:38,748 [singing continues] 674 00:32:41,042 --> 00:32:43,378 So does anybody go to church and sing these songs anymore 675 00:32:43,461 --> 00:32:45,546 -or not so much? -Not so much. No. 676 00:32:45,630 --> 00:32:47,382 No, because of the library is there. 677 00:32:47,465 --> 00:32:49,717 -[both laugh] -[Arthur] They go to the library. 678 00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:51,552 I don't know what that was. 679 00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:55,390 It was singing in the library in the morning before work. 680 00:32:55,473 --> 00:32:56,307 Because... 681 00:32:56,975 --> 00:32:59,185 life is better when you sing in the library 682 00:32:59,268 --> 00:33:00,520 in the morning before work. 683 00:33:01,437 --> 00:33:03,439 [people singing in Danish] 684 00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:09,779 [Arthur] It's just a not very fast-moving life. 685 00:33:10,446 --> 00:33:14,283 It's, you know, spend your morning singing in the library 686 00:33:14,367 --> 00:33:16,077 as opposed to going into work early. 687 00:33:16,327 --> 00:33:17,578 It's take off at noon 688 00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:20,081 and go to the beach and have an ice cream with your kids. 689 00:33:20,164 --> 00:33:22,709 It's the intense life in life. 690 00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:26,212 [Arthur] While in Copenhagen, I met up with Michael Booth, 691 00:33:26,295 --> 00:33:28,548 a British expat living in Denmark. 692 00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:30,550 He's a famous travel writer, 693 00:33:30,633 --> 00:33:33,386 and brings a unique perspective to Danish life. 694 00:33:33,469 --> 00:33:34,345 -Welcome aboard. -Thanks. 695 00:33:34,429 --> 00:33:37,181 [Michael] Well, if you talk to a Dane about Denmark, 696 00:33:37,265 --> 00:33:38,599 they'll always spin you the line, 697 00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:40,977 "Oh, we're only five million people, we're a very small country." 698 00:33:41,060 --> 00:33:42,854 But you talk to them a little bit longer, 699 00:33:42,937 --> 00:33:44,313 and you discover deep down, 700 00:33:44,772 --> 00:33:48,526 they believe they have created the most modern, progressive, 701 00:33:48,609 --> 00:33:52,155 well-functioning, fair society in the world. 702 00:33:52,572 --> 00:33:54,991 And I'm not sure you can argue with them, actually. 703 00:33:55,825 --> 00:33:58,244 [Michael] The Danes are not skipping gaily down the streets 704 00:33:58,327 --> 00:33:59,495 in sombreros, 705 00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:02,373 but they are incredibly satisfied with what they have. 706 00:34:04,417 --> 00:34:06,419 [Olav speaking Danish] 707 00:34:06,878 --> 00:34:09,005 [Olav] I don't find happiness as a... 708 00:34:09,756 --> 00:34:12,925 a certain thing that you are all the time. 709 00:34:13,634 --> 00:34:15,595 Happiness appears in moments, 710 00:34:15,845 --> 00:34:18,514 and I think there are a lot of moments in Denmark 711 00:34:18,598 --> 00:34:20,099 where Danes are happy. 712 00:34:20,183 --> 00:34:21,601 [hums] 713 00:34:21,684 --> 00:34:25,063 So this... this month, I'm taking care of the kids in the afternoon, 714 00:34:25,146 --> 00:34:26,856 but, um, in one month, 715 00:34:26,939 --> 00:34:29,692 I'm very busy, and then she will take care of the kids, so... 716 00:34:29,776 --> 00:34:32,320 [both speaking in Danish] 717 00:34:33,654 --> 00:34:35,239 [Sophie] When our kids were born, 718 00:34:35,323 --> 00:34:38,910 we talked about, "Wow, they choose the winning ticket," you know? 719 00:34:38,993 --> 00:34:43,456 They were born into this system where we have everything that we need. 720 00:34:43,915 --> 00:34:45,249 Everybody's happy, 721 00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:46,667 no one is suffering. 722 00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:48,836 -[sizzling] -[Olav speaking Danish] 723 00:34:50,463 --> 00:34:52,256 [continues speaking Danish] 724 00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:55,426 Omelet? 725 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,720 [Olav] Omelet. 726 00:34:58,054 --> 00:34:59,347 [child] Ah! 727 00:34:59,555 --> 00:35:02,809 [Sophie] We have a very strong welfare system 728 00:35:02,892 --> 00:35:04,602 that's quite unique, I think. 729 00:35:04,685 --> 00:35:06,312 [laughing] 730 00:35:06,395 --> 00:35:10,608 We go to doctor sometimes, just to get checked and stuff 731 00:35:10,691 --> 00:35:11,776 and that's free. 732 00:35:12,568 --> 00:35:15,863 My education is free. All I have to pay is buy books. 733 00:35:16,614 --> 00:35:17,990 [man 6] Is it safe to be here? 734 00:35:18,074 --> 00:35:20,868 Of course, we have violence, but not that kind of violence 735 00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:22,954 we hear from other part of the world. 736 00:35:24,622 --> 00:35:27,500 [Michael] Danes live really well inside their little... 737 00:35:27,583 --> 00:35:28,960 -They're like hobbits. -[Arthur] Right. 738 00:35:29,043 --> 00:35:31,629 They like to create a nice, cozy environment. 739 00:35:32,213 --> 00:35:34,715 [Christensen] We seem to value our leisure time, 740 00:35:34,799 --> 00:35:36,217 and our time with our family 741 00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:38,386 more than most countries in the world. 742 00:35:38,469 --> 00:35:39,846 And you can say, "Why is that?" 743 00:35:39,929 --> 00:35:42,807 When we pay for all the welfare benefits, 744 00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:44,392 we are paying relatively high taxes. 745 00:35:44,475 --> 00:35:46,310 In fact, we are paying the highest tax in the world. 746 00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:48,521 [Arthur] So what do you pay in taxes? 747 00:35:48,604 --> 00:35:51,607 Top rate is about 56 percent, but that's just on income tax. 748 00:35:51,691 --> 00:35:53,985 Roughly, it's about 75 percent of your income 749 00:35:54,068 --> 00:35:55,987 somehow ends up... 750 00:35:56,237 --> 00:35:57,780 -In the government. -...with the government. 751 00:35:57,864 --> 00:35:59,991 Yeah, you've got to hold on to your heart there, Arthur. 752 00:36:00,074 --> 00:36:01,409 [chuckles] 753 00:36:01,492 --> 00:36:04,704 [Arthur] Denmark and Scandinavia are all what's called, socialists. 754 00:36:04,787 --> 00:36:06,914 And that means everything and nothing. 755 00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:11,043 Uh, what we understand is socialism has become so complicated. 756 00:36:12,211 --> 00:36:14,672 The ironic thing, is that Denmark and America 757 00:36:14,755 --> 00:36:17,592 actually have more in common than most people realize. 758 00:36:18,843 --> 00:36:21,387 [Rasmussen] I know that, uh, some people in the US, 759 00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:24,432 associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism. 760 00:36:25,141 --> 00:36:28,561 Therefore, I would like to make one thing clear. 761 00:36:29,145 --> 00:36:33,107 Uh, Denmark is, uh, far from a socialist-planned economy. 762 00:36:33,482 --> 00:36:35,151 Denmark is a market economy. 763 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,237 [Arthur] Denmark and the rest of Scandinavia 764 00:36:38,321 --> 00:36:39,989 are wealthy modern societies 765 00:36:40,072 --> 00:36:42,450 that develop through the mid-20th century, 766 00:36:42,533 --> 00:36:44,076 much like the United States did, 767 00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:47,371 through free market economies and small governments 768 00:36:47,455 --> 00:36:48,873 with minimal social spending. 769 00:36:49,498 --> 00:36:52,168 Their large welfare systems are like our own, 770 00:36:52,460 --> 00:36:54,295 a relatively recent phenomenon. 771 00:36:54,754 --> 00:36:57,798 [Christensen] Denmark did not start out as a welfare state. 772 00:36:57,882 --> 00:37:00,593 And I don't think it's the natural state for Denmark. 773 00:37:00,676 --> 00:37:01,594 In fact, 774 00:37:01,677 --> 00:37:04,222 what we have spent most of the political energy 775 00:37:04,305 --> 00:37:06,140 on the economic side since the early '80s 776 00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:08,392 of scaling back government. 777 00:37:09,393 --> 00:37:10,603 [Sophia] I don't think it's... 778 00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:12,647 a socialistic utopia. 779 00:37:12,730 --> 00:37:14,607 -I don't see it that way. Not at all. -No, Not at all. 780 00:37:14,732 --> 00:37:16,525 -We're highly capitalistic in the market. -Yeah. 781 00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:18,236 I think capitalism is all right, you know, 782 00:37:18,319 --> 00:37:19,153 because, uh, you know, 783 00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:21,656 I have my own company, and I think it's okay to... 784 00:37:22,323 --> 00:37:23,866 give a little bit away, you know, 785 00:37:23,950 --> 00:37:25,409 to people who is not feeling so good. 786 00:37:25,493 --> 00:37:27,495 [people singing in Danish] 787 00:37:29,789 --> 00:37:32,291 [Arthur] There are some things in Denmark that are pretty attractive. 788 00:37:33,417 --> 00:37:35,670 The place definitely has its charms. 789 00:37:36,963 --> 00:37:38,798 But their culture does have a downside. 790 00:37:39,548 --> 00:37:41,842 [Michael] This is not a land of individuals. 791 00:37:42,510 --> 00:37:43,386 It's not, right? 792 00:37:43,469 --> 00:37:47,306 And if you are eccentric, or strange, or super ambitious... 793 00:37:47,723 --> 00:37:49,934 uh, you're gonna struggle here. 794 00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:53,271 [Michael] Danes would probably consider themselves 795 00:37:53,354 --> 00:37:55,231 to be the most free people on earth. 796 00:37:55,314 --> 00:37:57,483 You know, they have free democracy, freedom of speech. 797 00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:00,569 But from my perspective, when I first came here, 798 00:38:00,653 --> 00:38:03,406 I didn't see them as free at all, actually. 799 00:38:04,115 --> 00:38:06,993 This is, as I say, a boutique country of five million people 800 00:38:07,076 --> 00:38:08,244 with this special history 801 00:38:08,327 --> 00:38:10,997 which some claim, goes back a thousand years to the Vikings. 802 00:38:12,873 --> 00:38:14,542 [Christensen] If you look at the Danish culture, 803 00:38:14,625 --> 00:38:17,086 there is a saying called Jante Law. 804 00:38:17,169 --> 00:38:20,006 Jante Law is a list of, uh, commandments. 805 00:38:20,089 --> 00:38:21,799 Like old testament-style commandments. 806 00:38:21,882 --> 00:38:22,925 The commandments include, 807 00:38:23,009 --> 00:38:25,428 "Thou shall not think thou are all better than me." 808 00:38:25,511 --> 00:38:27,096 "You shouldn't think you're something." 809 00:38:27,179 --> 00:38:29,932 "Thou shall not think you can teach me anything." 810 00:38:30,016 --> 00:38:32,101 "Don't think you are the special one." 811 00:38:32,184 --> 00:38:34,145 [Michael] Even here in cosmopolitan Copenhagen 812 00:38:34,228 --> 00:38:35,521 where they might deny it, 813 00:38:35,604 --> 00:38:36,856 it still applies. 814 00:38:38,733 --> 00:38:42,820 [Christensen] It is a social norm that tells you to do exactly the opposite 815 00:38:42,903 --> 00:38:44,196 of the American Dream. 816 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,323 Don't stand out. 817 00:38:45,406 --> 00:38:47,742 [people singing in Danish] 818 00:38:47,825 --> 00:38:52,788 [Sophie] We built up this ideal picture of how things are gonna work. 819 00:38:52,872 --> 00:38:55,791 And if you don't fit into that picture, you... 820 00:38:55,875 --> 00:38:57,293 Yeah. You fail. 821 00:39:00,087 --> 00:39:01,672 [Arthur] People talk about the United States 822 00:39:01,756 --> 00:39:02,715 as being inadequate. 823 00:39:02,798 --> 00:39:04,133 And so they look to another country 824 00:39:04,216 --> 00:39:06,844 and they only see the things that they want. 825 00:39:08,262 --> 00:39:09,764 [Michael] I get asked a lot, 826 00:39:09,847 --> 00:39:11,932 "Should America become more like Denmark?" 827 00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:13,601 Like there's some kind of template 828 00:39:13,684 --> 00:39:16,479 that you can just take from a country of five million people, 829 00:39:16,854 --> 00:39:18,064 and take that template, 830 00:39:18,147 --> 00:39:21,067 and impose it on America, on the United States of America, 831 00:39:21,150 --> 00:39:23,527 with its huge population and massive diversity. 832 00:39:23,986 --> 00:39:25,321 That's insane. 833 00:39:26,697 --> 00:39:29,200 [Christensen] In this system, where we are all very similar, 834 00:39:29,575 --> 00:39:32,244 there is also social norms 835 00:39:32,328 --> 00:39:36,791 that will ensure the misuse of social benefits are smaller. 836 00:39:38,042 --> 00:39:41,545 [Olav] I think you can see Denmark as one big community. 837 00:39:41,629 --> 00:39:44,006 And with that, I mean, that we are one. 838 00:39:44,715 --> 00:39:45,966 We are one and the same. 839 00:39:46,342 --> 00:39:48,636 Globalization is a threat to Denmark. 840 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,179 Danes certainly see it as a threat. 841 00:39:50,262 --> 00:39:52,848 You are free in Denmark, but you're free to be Danish. 842 00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:55,226 [reporter 3] The Danish People's Party is celebrating 843 00:39:55,309 --> 00:39:57,812 its victorious result in legislative elections 844 00:39:57,895 --> 00:39:59,855 with 21 percent of the votes. 845 00:39:59,939 --> 00:40:02,274 This makes the anti-immigration People's Party, 846 00:40:02,358 --> 00:40:03,901 Denmark's second largest. 847 00:40:04,235 --> 00:40:07,238 Described by detractors as populist or even far-right, 848 00:40:07,321 --> 00:40:11,283 the DPP confirms an anti-immigration trend in the Nordic countries. 849 00:40:11,617 --> 00:40:13,077 I don't like it. 850 00:40:13,327 --> 00:40:15,121 I, I didn't feel good about them. 851 00:40:15,204 --> 00:40:16,288 I don't like Muslims. 852 00:40:16,372 --> 00:40:17,957 [interpreters voice] They can't just come here 853 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,999 and do whatever they want. 854 00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:21,669 Like staring at girls at nightclubs and stuff. 855 00:40:21,752 --> 00:40:23,546 They shouldn't be allowed to do that. 856 00:40:25,047 --> 00:40:28,050 [in Danish] These people, especially young, healthy, 857 00:40:28,134 --> 00:40:30,719 fit, Muslim men have been lured here, 858 00:40:30,803 --> 00:40:32,721 because they want to be a part of what we have created. 859 00:40:32,805 --> 00:40:34,348 We have created something. 860 00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:37,017 And what has created the success of Europe? 861 00:40:37,101 --> 00:40:40,521 It's mainly the ethnic, cultural, politically homogeneous 862 00:40:40,604 --> 00:40:42,189 national states that have created it. 863 00:40:42,314 --> 00:40:44,316 [tense music] 864 00:40:44,984 --> 00:40:47,695 [Arthur] What's attractive about Denmark to a lot of Americans, 865 00:40:47,778 --> 00:40:49,947 it's just not a complete picture of the country. 866 00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:52,241 -[men shouting] -[metal clanking] 867 00:40:53,284 --> 00:40:54,410 [Arthur] Like much of Europe, 868 00:40:54,493 --> 00:40:57,913 the Scandinavians cling to an ethnic national identity, 869 00:40:58,539 --> 00:41:01,292 with centuries of cultural and ethnic tradition. 870 00:41:01,834 --> 00:41:03,794 There's really not a sense of that in the United States, 871 00:41:03,878 --> 00:41:05,337 because we're all different. 872 00:41:05,421 --> 00:41:07,423 We're all from different places. 873 00:41:08,299 --> 00:41:10,968 Uh, there's not a sense of American ethnicity. 874 00:41:11,051 --> 00:41:12,887 There isn't now. I hope there never is. 875 00:41:13,429 --> 00:41:15,264 Hey, what it really is, the difference is this, 876 00:41:15,598 --> 00:41:19,018 um, other countries are places, United States is an idea. 877 00:41:19,977 --> 00:41:21,395 [Arthur] That's what makes it so strong, 878 00:41:21,770 --> 00:41:24,273 but it means we can never take this for granted. 879 00:41:25,065 --> 00:41:28,402 There's a rising tide of populist nationalism in America, 880 00:41:28,486 --> 00:41:31,280 and that's a real threat to what makes the US exceptional. 881 00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,412 [crowd chanting] 882 00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:40,039 Made in USA! 883 00:41:40,122 --> 00:41:41,957 [Arthur] I think what we're seeing right now, 884 00:41:42,041 --> 00:41:44,668 is a breakdown not so much between the right and the left, 885 00:41:44,752 --> 00:41:47,254 but between people who want a more closed society 886 00:41:47,338 --> 00:41:49,423 and people who want a more open society. 887 00:41:50,716 --> 00:41:52,092 So why is this happening? 888 00:41:52,259 --> 00:41:53,344 You know when I talk to people 889 00:41:53,427 --> 00:41:55,054 who are caught up in the populism of today, 890 00:41:55,137 --> 00:41:57,389 the reason that they're so uncomfortable, 891 00:41:57,473 --> 00:41:58,641 and it really comes down to this, 892 00:41:58,724 --> 00:42:01,310 they know that too many people in their country, 893 00:42:01,769 --> 00:42:03,145 maybe including them, 894 00:42:03,229 --> 00:42:06,941 have been rendered superfluous by events and by currents, 895 00:42:07,024 --> 00:42:09,151 by culture, by policy, and by government. 896 00:42:09,401 --> 00:42:13,364 Populism comes when people are struggling to feel needed. 897 00:42:13,739 --> 00:42:15,741 [tranquil music] 898 00:42:17,701 --> 00:42:20,621 [Arthur] Unfortunately, there are many communities in the United States 899 00:42:20,704 --> 00:42:22,206 confronting that struggle today. 900 00:42:26,335 --> 00:42:30,339 [Jerry] In this area, there's not much other work here as far as... 901 00:42:30,673 --> 00:42:32,508 you know, uh, well-paid jobs. 902 00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:35,344 Uh, the mines was really about the only thing here 903 00:42:35,427 --> 00:42:37,179 that was a really good paying job. 904 00:42:37,721 --> 00:42:39,890 [somber music] 905 00:42:42,393 --> 00:42:44,603 We're like a poster child for a model economy 906 00:42:44,687 --> 00:42:45,938 here in eastern Kentucky. 907 00:42:48,399 --> 00:42:50,109 [Todd] It's good while it's booming. 908 00:42:50,192 --> 00:42:53,070 I mean, you know, you can't blame people when it's just like my parents. 909 00:42:53,153 --> 00:42:53,988 You know, my dad... 910 00:42:54,071 --> 00:42:56,365 I mean, why diversify when you're making a living. 911 00:42:59,034 --> 00:43:00,536 [James] They didn't think about the future. 912 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,373 You know, but what we're gonna do if the mines ever shut down, 913 00:43:04,456 --> 00:43:05,874 or you know, coal goes away. 914 00:43:05,958 --> 00:43:07,710 What we're gonna do? They didn't think about that. 915 00:43:07,793 --> 00:43:10,004 -They didn't expect it. -They didn't expect it, you know. 916 00:43:11,547 --> 00:43:15,217 I guess we're in a mindset right now where a lot of people has... 917 00:43:15,718 --> 00:43:18,679 accepted the fact that coal is, is gone. 918 00:43:18,762 --> 00:43:23,434 And, and it doesn't look good for it to ever come back. 919 00:43:24,101 --> 00:43:25,311 [Eric] You know, it's just... 920 00:43:25,978 --> 00:43:27,646 It's... it's hit us really hard. 921 00:43:28,772 --> 00:43:30,774 [somber music] 922 00:43:32,610 --> 00:43:35,321 [Arthur] Eastern Kentucky and areas like it all over the United States 923 00:43:35,404 --> 00:43:37,406 are facing deep economic challenges. 924 00:43:38,073 --> 00:43:41,452 These are the areas that our welfare state was built to help. 925 00:43:41,702 --> 00:43:43,704 [calm music] 926 00:43:45,539 --> 00:43:48,751 [crowd cheering, applauding] 927 00:43:50,544 --> 00:43:51,545 [Arthur] Lyndon Johnson. 928 00:43:51,879 --> 00:43:54,506 He gave his great society speech 929 00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:59,678 that kicked off the Great Society in the war on poverty on May 22nd, 1964. 930 00:43:59,762 --> 00:44:02,181 That was one day after I was born. 931 00:44:03,265 --> 00:44:06,518 The great society rests on abundance and liberty for all. 932 00:44:07,186 --> 00:44:11,357 It demands an end to poverty and racial injustice. 933 00:44:13,859 --> 00:44:15,194 [Arthur] This was a set of programs 934 00:44:15,277 --> 00:44:19,031 dedicated to obliterating poverty and improving civil rights. 935 00:44:19,615 --> 00:44:21,325 It was an ambitious set of goals 936 00:44:21,408 --> 00:44:24,411 based on the radical equality of human dignity. 937 00:44:24,995 --> 00:44:27,039 And I agree with every word. 938 00:44:29,124 --> 00:44:32,878 [Lee] In '64, when I was a reporter for the Ashland Daily, 939 00:44:33,045 --> 00:44:36,674 the paper assigned me to come and cover... 940 00:44:37,091 --> 00:44:41,345 uh, uh, Lyndon Johnson's visit to Inez, 941 00:44:41,428 --> 00:44:44,348 which was part of it of a day-long trip 942 00:44:44,431 --> 00:44:47,351 where he had been stopping in places all over the country. 943 00:44:47,935 --> 00:44:50,354 But this Inez was a place 944 00:44:50,437 --> 00:44:53,357 in which he was going to launch this war on poverty. 945 00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:55,192 [indistinct chatter] 946 00:44:55,401 --> 00:44:57,236 [Lee] Everyone's very excited about it. 947 00:44:57,319 --> 00:44:59,238 Nobody knew exactly 948 00:44:59,613 --> 00:45:02,658 how we'd been chosen for this fairly dubious honor. 949 00:45:04,284 --> 00:45:05,994 [Arthur] LBJ's goals were noble, 950 00:45:06,328 --> 00:45:10,290 and this poor Appalachian town was hungry for the progress that he promised. 951 00:45:11,291 --> 00:45:14,628 So, 50 years later, how is Inez doing? 952 00:45:15,170 --> 00:45:18,006 Are these programs helping to get people back on their feet? 953 00:45:19,508 --> 00:45:21,260 [James] The reason you got more poverty here 954 00:45:21,343 --> 00:45:22,803 is you got the system, 955 00:45:22,886 --> 00:45:24,972 giving people, well, you know, checks every month. 956 00:45:25,055 --> 00:45:26,682 You know, first times of whatever. 957 00:45:26,932 --> 00:45:29,226 They, they got hold of that and they don't wanna let it go. 958 00:45:29,935 --> 00:45:31,687 -You know-- -[Pricie] These generations of people. 959 00:45:31,854 --> 00:45:33,772 You've got generations of people who, you know... 960 00:45:33,856 --> 00:45:35,983 [Pricie] And don't get me wrong. Those are good programs. 961 00:45:36,066 --> 00:45:37,401 -Yeah. -They're there to help you, 962 00:45:37,484 --> 00:45:38,402 but they shouldn't have... 963 00:45:38,485 --> 00:45:40,529 Raise your family, then raise your family's family. 964 00:45:40,612 --> 00:45:42,281 -Right. -You know, that's been abused. 965 00:45:42,698 --> 00:45:44,575 And that's what you... And that's what's happened. 966 00:45:44,658 --> 00:45:46,326 [James] It is happening to some of us right now. 967 00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:48,203 I mean, it is. I mean, I'm not gonna deny it. 968 00:45:48,871 --> 00:45:50,831 But do I want to live on that program? 969 00:45:50,914 --> 00:45:54,001 Do I want the government to tell me, "Here's how you're going to live"? 970 00:45:54,084 --> 00:45:54,960 No. 971 00:45:55,252 --> 00:45:57,087 Financially speaking, it's been... 972 00:45:57,171 --> 00:45:58,589 It's been rough. It's been hard. 973 00:45:58,672 --> 00:46:00,549 As my granny would say, "You rob Peter to pay Paul." 974 00:46:00,632 --> 00:46:02,926 I mean, which, which bill can I pay at this time? 975 00:46:03,343 --> 00:46:05,429 You know, which one can I let go? 976 00:46:05,888 --> 00:46:07,473 -I mean, and it makes it hard. -[James] Right. 977 00:46:07,848 --> 00:46:09,224 [clinking] 978 00:46:11,018 --> 00:46:13,020 [calm music] 979 00:46:13,937 --> 00:46:15,647 [Robert] We have done well in America 980 00:46:15,731 --> 00:46:18,775 at providing material well-being for people who are struggling. 981 00:46:18,859 --> 00:46:21,528 With regard to what they have for their families, 982 00:46:21,612 --> 00:46:22,738 their food, their housing. 983 00:46:22,821 --> 00:46:25,741 And most people on the right and left view that as an achievement. 984 00:46:25,824 --> 00:46:26,950 I think they should. 985 00:46:27,409 --> 00:46:28,744 We don't want to live in a society, 986 00:46:29,161 --> 00:46:31,955 where there are people who are destitute all across America. 987 00:46:32,539 --> 00:46:34,666 [Robert] But they're not earning their own success. 988 00:46:35,083 --> 00:46:36,543 They're not finding 989 00:46:36,793 --> 00:46:38,378 that dignity that comes 990 00:46:38,462 --> 00:46:41,131 with knowing you're taking care of yourself and your family. 991 00:46:41,215 --> 00:46:42,549 And in some respects, 992 00:46:42,633 --> 00:46:47,346 the programs are encouraging people to rely on government assistance, 993 00:46:47,721 --> 00:46:51,308 and not rely enough on their own value. 994 00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:53,310 [James] It's hard on you, I mean, 995 00:46:53,393 --> 00:46:55,229 'cause you're not working and you're used to working, 996 00:46:55,312 --> 00:46:57,314 and there's nothing to do, and there's no jobs out there. 997 00:46:57,648 --> 00:47:00,400 I don't have the education as the younger generations got. 998 00:47:00,901 --> 00:47:03,237 If I went back to school, the time I graduated, 999 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,113 I would be in my 50s. Who's gonna hire me? 1000 00:47:05,739 --> 00:47:08,367 You know, nobody's gonna hire me. 50 years old? 1001 00:47:10,661 --> 00:47:12,996 [Kayla] People that I've seen a lot of their self-worth... 1002 00:47:13,455 --> 00:47:17,042 is directly tied to their job. 1003 00:47:17,501 --> 00:47:21,213 And directly tied to how productive they are today. 1004 00:47:21,755 --> 00:47:25,092 So if you take a coal miner, a typical coal miner, 1005 00:47:25,467 --> 00:47:28,720 and all of a sudden, you take away his job, 1006 00:47:29,388 --> 00:47:32,266 in effect, you're taking away his self-worth. 1007 00:47:34,810 --> 00:47:37,813 [Arthur] If we want to deliver on the promises of the great society, 1008 00:47:37,896 --> 00:47:41,275 we have to start by admitting that the welfare state is not doing right 1009 00:47:41,358 --> 00:47:43,277 by struggling people in this country. 1010 00:47:44,486 --> 00:47:48,740 [Arthur] From the end of World War II in 1945 through to 1965, 1011 00:47:48,824 --> 00:47:51,159 the poverty rate declined dramatically. 1012 00:47:51,743 --> 00:47:53,287 But since the implementation 1013 00:47:53,370 --> 00:47:57,207 of the Great Society's anti-poverty programs in 1966, 1014 00:47:57,291 --> 00:48:00,836 our poverty rate has remained stuck at around 13 percent. 1015 00:48:02,170 --> 00:48:03,130 Meanwhile, 1016 00:48:03,213 --> 00:48:05,757 working-age male participation in the workforce 1017 00:48:05,841 --> 00:48:07,509 has declined significantly. 1018 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,514 The US welfare system has not fixed our poverty problems. 1019 00:48:12,931 --> 00:48:14,766 But it's not for lack of trying. 1020 00:48:15,767 --> 00:48:17,769 Since 1966, 1021 00:48:17,853 --> 00:48:21,315 the US government has spent over 23 trillion dollars 1022 00:48:21,398 --> 00:48:23,483 on anti-poverty programs alone. 1023 00:48:24,693 --> 00:48:25,611 We've failed. 1024 00:48:25,819 --> 00:48:27,487 And it's not 'cause... It's not about the money. 1025 00:48:27,571 --> 00:48:28,780 That's not what I'm worried about. 1026 00:48:28,864 --> 00:48:30,365 I don't care about the 20 trillion dollars. 1027 00:48:30,449 --> 00:48:33,076 I care about the, the human lives that have been lost. 1028 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,037 We tend to trap people in poverty 1029 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,456 when we treat them like liabilities to manage 1030 00:48:37,539 --> 00:48:39,708 as opposed to assets and the human family. 1031 00:48:39,791 --> 00:48:42,252 Even if you look way back to FDR, 1032 00:48:42,336 --> 00:48:45,422 when, uh, the safety net was sort of established in... 1033 00:48:46,006 --> 00:48:49,301 in, uh, the height of the Great Depression, 1034 00:48:49,676 --> 00:48:51,845 he called welfare a narcotic, uh... 1035 00:48:52,095 --> 00:48:54,640 subtle destroyer of the human spirit. 1036 00:48:54,723 --> 00:48:56,767 Nobody says, "I want more handouts." 1037 00:48:57,392 --> 00:48:59,269 Everybody says, "I want more work." 1038 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,815 [Kathryn] If you probe more deeply, what you will discover, 1039 00:49:04,358 --> 00:49:08,195 is that what they want more than anything else... 1040 00:49:08,779 --> 00:49:11,657 is to be part of America. 1041 00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:14,493 They want to be citizens. 1042 00:49:14,576 --> 00:49:18,997 They want to be contributors to society. 1043 00:49:20,624 --> 00:49:23,460 [Arthur] People don't want to be given things for nothing. 1044 00:49:23,543 --> 00:49:26,505 They aspire to earn their success. 1045 00:49:26,922 --> 00:49:29,216 We have to do better in our welfare systems 1046 00:49:29,299 --> 00:49:30,384 than what we've done before. 1047 00:49:33,387 --> 00:49:35,305 [Mickey] The real poverty exists, 1048 00:49:35,389 --> 00:49:38,058 in this community and any community in the world, 1049 00:49:38,392 --> 00:49:43,522 is when a, when a young man or, or, or a young woman grows up... 1050 00:49:43,855 --> 00:49:46,400 with no, with no... 1051 00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:47,943 dream. 1052 00:49:48,902 --> 00:49:50,946 With no desire. 1053 00:49:54,366 --> 00:49:55,492 That's poverty, man. 1054 00:50:07,337 --> 00:50:08,672 [Arthur] It's kind of amazing. 1055 00:50:09,256 --> 00:50:11,591 When I listen to public policy debates today, 1056 00:50:11,675 --> 00:50:13,218 it sounds almost as if... 1057 00:50:14,636 --> 00:50:17,013 Democrats and Republicans, conservatives and liberals 1058 00:50:17,097 --> 00:50:19,808 can't agree on anything except this one thing. 1059 00:50:20,142 --> 00:50:22,769 Poor people's work is a punishment. 1060 00:50:22,853 --> 00:50:23,770 That's not right. 1061 00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:25,731 I mean, it's like what, the one thing you can agree on 1062 00:50:25,814 --> 00:50:28,358 is, is that, you know, the right-wingers want to punish people with work, 1063 00:50:28,442 --> 00:50:31,528 and, and left-wingers want to exempt people from the punishment of work. 1064 00:50:31,611 --> 00:50:33,780 So we either sock it to them with them or exempt them from it. 1065 00:50:33,864 --> 00:50:34,990 That's both wrong. 1066 00:50:35,741 --> 00:50:37,451 [Arthur] All work is sanctified. 1067 00:50:38,285 --> 00:50:39,828 All work creates value. 1068 00:50:40,579 --> 00:50:42,080 When we forget this, 1069 00:50:42,456 --> 00:50:44,458 we move beyond needing people. 1070 00:50:45,208 --> 00:50:46,960 And when people don't feel needed, 1071 00:50:47,085 --> 00:50:49,379 they lose their basic sense of dignity. 1072 00:50:52,382 --> 00:50:54,176 A great society is one 1073 00:50:54,259 --> 00:50:57,679 in which we can instantiate the greatness inside each person. 1074 00:50:58,013 --> 00:50:59,931 What are the greatness inside each person? 1075 00:51:00,015 --> 00:51:02,100 It's the... the understanding 1076 00:51:02,184 --> 00:51:03,727 that the root of the pursuit of happiness 1077 00:51:03,810 --> 00:51:06,563 is one in which each person has the dignity 1078 00:51:06,646 --> 00:51:09,816 to be able to earn his or her success and the potential to make it so. 1079 00:51:10,233 --> 00:51:12,235 [light music] 1080 00:51:16,573 --> 00:51:19,367 [Arthur] This is not to say that we don't need a strong safety net. 1081 00:51:19,826 --> 00:51:20,994 I believe we do. 1082 00:51:21,453 --> 00:51:24,414 But it needs to be based on the dignity of work. 1083 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,711 [Nazerine] So nobody's gonna do the work here for you. 1084 00:51:30,253 --> 00:51:33,340 The staff here are here to guide, support you. 1085 00:51:34,007 --> 00:51:36,218 We're here to answer and to listen to you. 1086 00:51:36,343 --> 00:51:37,385 And we can. 1087 00:51:37,469 --> 00:51:38,970 But I need to tell you something. 1088 00:51:39,054 --> 00:51:40,472 Most of the answers... 1089 00:51:40,889 --> 00:51:42,140 are within yourself. 1090 00:51:44,893 --> 00:51:47,604 [Arthur] These men in The Doe Fund, 1091 00:51:47,687 --> 00:51:50,315 they're not just the unloved members of society. 1092 00:51:50,607 --> 00:51:53,276 They're the people that we traditionally consider to be unlovable. 1093 00:51:53,777 --> 00:51:55,570 They're homeless, 1094 00:51:55,779 --> 00:51:58,657 they're mostly drug and alcohol dependent or have been. 1095 00:51:59,115 --> 00:52:01,618 It's the test of our moral fiber. 1096 00:52:01,785 --> 00:52:05,038 The Doe Fund does miracles with these guys. 1097 00:52:06,414 --> 00:52:09,417 [Alexander] The principle of The Doe Fund is incredibly simple, 1098 00:52:09,501 --> 00:52:11,169 and that is work works, 1099 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,632 and that the inherent value of all people exists 1100 00:52:15,715 --> 00:52:17,008 and needs to be unlocked. 1101 00:52:17,092 --> 00:52:18,093 And when you unlock it, 1102 00:52:18,176 --> 00:52:20,095 then that person's potential becomes limitless 1103 00:52:20,178 --> 00:52:21,763 just like every other American. 1104 00:52:22,931 --> 00:52:24,808 [Nazerine] When guys come in, it's very hard, 1105 00:52:24,891 --> 00:52:27,477 because someone was so deep down in the hole 1106 00:52:27,561 --> 00:52:30,063 that they're not really trying to hear anything. 1107 00:52:30,146 --> 00:52:32,399 Self-love has to come first. 1108 00:52:32,649 --> 00:52:35,402 When we begin to love ourselves, then we can love other people. 1109 00:52:36,736 --> 00:52:38,572 [Craig] We don't care where you came from. 1110 00:52:38,947 --> 00:52:40,866 We treat you like you're somebody, 1111 00:52:41,825 --> 00:52:43,159 and you can do it. 1112 00:52:43,577 --> 00:52:45,370 -Let's start. Let's go. -Yeah, right here. 1113 00:52:45,453 --> 00:52:46,329 Right here. 1114 00:52:46,997 --> 00:52:49,541 [Arthur] It's really unlike any homeless shelter you've ever seen. 1115 00:52:50,250 --> 00:52:51,293 When the guys first arrive, 1116 00:52:51,376 --> 00:52:54,796 they spend their first 30 days doing basic work around the facility. 1117 00:52:55,922 --> 00:52:57,382 [Nazerine] This is an opportunity. 1118 00:52:58,049 --> 00:52:59,509 And you gotta make the most of it. 1119 00:53:00,051 --> 00:53:02,012 And I say that, because I am one of you. 1120 00:53:02,429 --> 00:53:03,680 I'm up from the bottom, 1121 00:53:04,264 --> 00:53:06,266 I'm from one of the seats where you were. 1122 00:53:06,641 --> 00:53:08,476 I just... It was 22 years ago. 1123 00:53:09,728 --> 00:53:11,438 [Nazarene] "Hand up" is what we do here. 1124 00:53:11,771 --> 00:53:15,150 We're going to provide you a road map, a direction, 1125 00:53:15,567 --> 00:53:17,652 and then, you're gonna do all the rest of the work. 1126 00:53:17,736 --> 00:53:19,112 We're not gonna do the work for you. 1127 00:53:19,237 --> 00:53:21,239 [tranquil music] 1128 00:53:26,369 --> 00:53:27,829 Let's go. You should be outside already. 1129 00:53:27,913 --> 00:53:29,581 -You know, ten-two. -[man 7] Gotta get one back. 1130 00:53:29,664 --> 00:53:30,624 Got the paperwork in here. 1131 00:53:30,707 --> 00:53:32,667 You're telling me, you got to find that dispatch. 1132 00:53:32,751 --> 00:53:34,044 He's outside already. 1133 00:53:35,086 --> 00:53:36,129 It's good to go. 1134 00:53:37,172 --> 00:53:40,592 [Craig] What we do on our program is all the men you see in blue, 1135 00:53:41,009 --> 00:53:43,553 they go out, clean the streets seven days a week. 1136 00:53:43,637 --> 00:53:46,014 Rain, sleet, snow, or shine. 1137 00:53:46,932 --> 00:53:48,183 Let's go here. Let's go! 1138 00:53:48,558 --> 00:53:50,310 [man 8] Make sure your uniforms is intact. 1139 00:53:50,393 --> 00:53:51,895 [man 9] Come on, as a matter of fact... 1140 00:53:51,978 --> 00:53:53,897 [man 8] Project "Come Clean", four teams. 1141 00:53:54,856 --> 00:53:59,194 We clean 150 to 175 miles of street daily. 1142 00:54:03,114 --> 00:54:04,574 [Maury] You ask yourself, 1143 00:54:04,658 --> 00:54:06,618 "How did my life... 1144 00:54:07,285 --> 00:54:09,579 get the way it did that... 1145 00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:11,289 I'm homeless?" 1146 00:54:12,707 --> 00:54:15,126 [sighs] [Maury] Why... Why me? 1147 00:54:16,836 --> 00:54:21,633 I had to look at myself and tell myself that I still matter. 1148 00:54:22,217 --> 00:54:24,970 I'm somebody, and I can make it. 1149 00:54:26,179 --> 00:54:28,139 You stay on the sidewalk. I got the curve. 1150 00:54:29,182 --> 00:54:31,101 [indistinct dialogue] 1151 00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:33,561 [calm music] 1152 00:54:34,896 --> 00:54:36,856 -Are you doing okay? -I'm doing well. 1153 00:54:37,273 --> 00:54:39,234 [man 10] He looks like he's doing better than well, man. 1154 00:54:39,317 --> 00:54:40,151 You think so? 1155 00:54:40,235 --> 00:54:41,569 -I know so. -[laughs] 1156 00:54:41,653 --> 00:54:43,113 You're alive. You're smiling. 1157 00:54:44,364 --> 00:54:45,949 [Maury] My life is going on. 1158 00:54:46,241 --> 00:54:47,659 My life matters. 1159 00:54:47,867 --> 00:54:50,453 I'm somebody. I'm gonna make it. 1160 00:54:50,537 --> 00:54:51,997 I'm not gonna give up. 1161 00:54:55,834 --> 00:54:56,710 [Johnny] Hello, Craig. 1162 00:54:56,793 --> 00:54:58,461 Hey, Johnny. Good morning, Johnny. 1163 00:54:58,545 --> 00:55:01,256 Could I get some numbers from you out of Brooklyn? 1164 00:55:02,257 --> 00:55:05,719 [Craig] Today, I'm working here a little over 18 years. 1165 00:55:06,302 --> 00:55:08,596 April 21st, 1997. 1166 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:12,267 That was the last day I used any sort of drug, drink, anything. 1167 00:55:12,475 --> 00:55:13,977 So I've been clean since. 1168 00:55:14,936 --> 00:55:15,812 So... 1169 00:55:19,232 --> 00:55:21,359 [Craig] When I got here, it was the greatest thing 1170 00:55:21,443 --> 00:55:22,944 that ever happened in my life. 1171 00:55:24,487 --> 00:55:25,613 [Craig] Done with your homework? 1172 00:55:25,697 --> 00:55:27,907 -[Craig's son] Yeah. -[Craig's wife] Yeah, he's finished, yeah. 1173 00:55:27,991 --> 00:55:29,451 [Craig] I'm married today. 1174 00:55:29,534 --> 00:55:32,120 I have a son who looks up to me today. 1175 00:55:32,412 --> 00:55:33,413 -Ready? -Oh, yeah. 1176 00:55:33,496 --> 00:55:34,914 You want to do the lay-up again. 1177 00:55:35,749 --> 00:55:37,125 Oh, you got faster. 1178 00:55:37,375 --> 00:55:40,545 Having a child in my life. Having my wife in my life. 1179 00:55:41,254 --> 00:55:42,672 -[Craig's wife] Oh, yeah. -What was that? 1180 00:55:42,756 --> 00:55:43,923 That's right, Z. 1181 00:55:44,007 --> 00:55:45,091 Three points. 1182 00:55:46,593 --> 00:55:47,886 Wow, it's deep. 1183 00:55:49,012 --> 00:55:51,014 Just talking about it, I get, like, emotional. 1184 00:55:51,222 --> 00:55:53,433 -[Craig] Ah, you wanna hit the swing? -[Craig's son] Yeah, yeah. 1185 00:55:53,516 --> 00:55:54,517 All right. Come on. 1186 00:55:57,562 --> 00:56:00,482 [Craig]I had to earn to become who I am today. 1187 00:56:01,441 --> 00:56:03,276 You know what I'm saying? I worked hard. 1188 00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:05,111 I continue to work hard, 1189 00:56:05,487 --> 00:56:08,281 because I want to earn more. 1190 00:56:08,782 --> 00:56:10,784 And I think it means a lot more than just... 1191 00:56:11,534 --> 00:56:13,453 a job or you're getting a paycheck. 1192 00:56:13,787 --> 00:56:15,789 [calm music] 1193 00:56:18,374 --> 00:56:19,334 [indistinct chatter] 1194 00:56:19,417 --> 00:56:22,045 [Arthur] If you earn it and you achieve it, 1195 00:56:22,128 --> 00:56:23,922 and it's not given to you, 1196 00:56:24,005 --> 00:56:27,592 but you believe it is something that's actually come from your own merit 1197 00:56:27,675 --> 00:56:29,677 and hard work and personal responsibility, 1198 00:56:30,053 --> 00:56:32,138 that will be the source of your satisfaction. 1199 00:56:32,222 --> 00:56:33,056 Truly, 1200 00:56:33,139 --> 00:56:36,518 earned success is one of the great secrets of pursuit of happiness. 1201 00:56:36,684 --> 00:56:38,269 [Gino] You... and then go all the way through. 1202 00:56:38,353 --> 00:56:39,562 Right up to there. 1203 00:56:39,646 --> 00:56:40,980 Then you go this way. 1204 00:56:41,272 --> 00:56:42,524 You work in the kitchen, 1205 00:56:42,607 --> 00:56:45,110 the first job you're gonna do is prepping vegetables. 1206 00:56:45,568 --> 00:56:48,279 You're gonna have to stand on your, on your feet all day. 1207 00:56:48,738 --> 00:56:50,365 [Gino] A lot of the guys we've got now, 1208 00:56:50,448 --> 00:56:51,282 they're young men. 1209 00:56:51,366 --> 00:56:53,159 They've been in the foster system. 1210 00:56:53,368 --> 00:56:55,078 They... No one ever cared about 'em. 1211 00:56:55,161 --> 00:56:57,122 No one ever said, "Listen, you can't do that." 1212 00:56:57,455 --> 00:56:59,582 It's... "If you want a better life, you gotta work." 1213 00:57:00,166 --> 00:57:01,000 And also, I... 1214 00:57:01,084 --> 00:57:03,002 -Button up your thing, all right? -[man 11] Oh. My bad. 1215 00:57:03,086 --> 00:57:04,587 Yeah, I mean, you gotta look professional. 1216 00:57:04,671 --> 00:57:06,089 -All right? It's not a disco. -All right. 1217 00:57:06,172 --> 00:57:07,590 -Okay. -Okay? Come on. 1218 00:57:08,258 --> 00:57:11,594 [Gino] I have many guys who transformed their lives. 1219 00:57:11,928 --> 00:57:13,888 I have a young man, Angel Lopez. 1220 00:57:14,472 --> 00:57:17,016 Had no schooling, no work history, 1221 00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:19,477 and now, he's an integral part of our kitchen. 1222 00:57:21,563 --> 00:57:22,605 [Angel] Well, to me... 1223 00:57:23,231 --> 00:57:25,150 It's not... this is not a job for me. 1224 00:57:25,233 --> 00:57:26,901 It's like, uh... school. 1225 00:57:26,985 --> 00:57:28,862 Here, I'm learning something new every day. 1226 00:57:29,779 --> 00:57:31,281 [Angel] And I take notes down. 1227 00:57:31,656 --> 00:57:32,866 When no one's around 1228 00:57:32,949 --> 00:57:34,951 or the day is slow, I'm practicing. 1229 00:57:37,704 --> 00:57:38,830 -Now? -Now place the cake 1230 00:57:38,913 --> 00:57:41,082 right in the center here. Nice. 1231 00:57:42,625 --> 00:57:43,710 [Angel] Whoo. 1232 00:57:43,793 --> 00:57:45,753 It feels good to be doing something positive. 1233 00:57:46,379 --> 00:57:47,881 Something fun, you know what I mean. 1234 00:57:48,548 --> 00:57:50,633 It's better than being out there running in the streets. 1235 00:57:51,801 --> 00:57:53,386 I don't have to worry about nobody... 1236 00:57:54,179 --> 00:57:56,973 trying to hurt me or nothing like that. You know what I mean? 1237 00:57:57,682 --> 00:57:59,017 [instructor] Put your hand underneath. 1238 00:57:59,559 --> 00:58:01,227 And that's a complete job. 1239 00:58:02,187 --> 00:58:03,062 Beautiful. 1240 00:58:03,354 --> 00:58:05,356 [light music] 1241 00:58:17,327 --> 00:58:19,662 I'm looking nice today, right, boy? 1242 00:58:19,787 --> 00:58:20,747 -Yeah. -Looking nice so far. 1243 00:58:20,830 --> 00:58:21,873 Me, too. Yeah? 1244 00:58:23,082 --> 00:58:24,542 [Angel] Yeah, you know what's crazy? 1245 00:58:24,626 --> 00:58:25,627 I used to, uh... 1246 00:58:27,420 --> 00:58:28,630 clean the streets over here. 1247 00:58:28,713 --> 00:58:30,131 -Oh, really? -[Angel] Yeah. 1248 00:58:30,215 --> 00:58:31,216 [boy 3] Oh, you don't. 1249 00:58:31,299 --> 00:58:33,426 [Angel] That's how you... That's how you start the program. 1250 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:34,469 Being in the streets. 1251 00:58:35,178 --> 00:58:37,138 What keeps me motivated is these guys. 1252 00:58:38,181 --> 00:58:39,349 Yeah. And, I say, you know what? 1253 00:58:39,432 --> 00:58:40,475 When I get older, 1254 00:58:41,309 --> 00:58:43,478 I don't want to be in a home by myself when I get older. 1255 00:58:43,895 --> 00:58:45,813 Hey, buddy, can you cross the street now? 1256 00:58:46,022 --> 00:58:47,440 Does the stop sign say "cross"? 1257 00:58:47,899 --> 00:58:49,943 -You know how to pitch, right? -There's no cars coming. 1258 00:58:50,026 --> 00:58:52,320 But, so what? You still got to be safe. Right or wrong? 1259 00:58:53,655 --> 00:58:55,073 -[boy 3] We can go now. -You see, Mile? 1260 00:58:55,156 --> 00:58:56,324 -[Angel] Can we go now? -Yeah. 1261 00:58:56,491 --> 00:58:57,450 Let's go. 1262 00:58:58,952 --> 00:59:00,078 [Angel] It's something we love. 1263 00:59:00,161 --> 00:59:01,788 I'm gonna teach him how to start baking, right? 1264 00:59:02,789 --> 00:59:04,832 The only thing I know how to cook is French toast. 1265 00:59:05,250 --> 00:59:07,168 [Angel] See, I taught him how to cook French toast. 1266 00:59:10,129 --> 00:59:11,965 Let's get back to this graduation. 1267 00:59:14,300 --> 00:59:16,177 [indistinct chatter] 1268 00:59:18,763 --> 00:59:21,307 Some of my same old friends from my neighborhood... 1269 00:59:22,058 --> 00:59:25,144 walked by me one day while I was cleaning, and kicked my bucket, 1270 00:59:25,937 --> 00:59:27,230 and laughed at my uniform. 1271 00:59:28,731 --> 00:59:30,066 [Angel] But I just kept thinking... 1272 00:59:31,025 --> 00:59:32,318 "I'm a working man. 1273 00:59:33,444 --> 00:59:34,988 And I'm not going back to prison." 1274 00:59:35,613 --> 00:59:38,241 I wanted to get in the kitchen, into Gino's house. 1275 00:59:39,033 --> 00:59:41,703 Because in the kitchen, there's love. 1276 00:59:42,453 --> 00:59:43,413 In the kitchen, 1277 00:59:43,705 --> 00:59:45,873 you can do something good all day. 1278 00:59:46,374 --> 00:59:47,417 Every day. 1279 00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:50,795 And I knew that bucket was gonna get me there. 1280 00:59:51,337 --> 00:59:54,424 So thank you, everyone, for my first graduation. 1281 00:59:55,508 --> 00:59:57,176 Thank you, for my future. 1282 00:59:57,510 --> 00:59:58,511 Good night. 1283 00:59:58,595 --> 01:00:01,014 [crowd clapping, cheering] 1284 01:00:09,731 --> 01:00:11,733 [indistinct chatter] 1285 01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:14,902 [light music] 1286 01:00:16,112 --> 01:00:20,491 [Arthur] What we have to find is the way that people can earn their success. 1287 01:00:21,492 --> 01:00:23,369 The system of opportunity and free enterprise 1288 01:00:23,453 --> 01:00:24,912 that's lifted so many people up 1289 01:00:25,496 --> 01:00:27,874 is fundamentally an aspirationally-based system, 1290 01:00:27,957 --> 01:00:29,334 not a greed-based system. 1291 01:00:29,417 --> 01:00:30,752 Greed is not the basis of capitalism. 1292 01:00:30,835 --> 01:00:33,212 Anybody who tells you that is lying to you 1293 01:00:33,296 --> 01:00:35,673 or doesn't understand capitalism. 1294 01:00:36,341 --> 01:00:38,384 [Arthur] People bring selfishness and greed. 1295 01:00:39,385 --> 01:00:43,014 You can't fix the human heart by getting rid of capitalism. 1296 01:00:43,765 --> 01:00:46,934 But capitalism alone can't fix society, either. 1297 01:00:47,602 --> 01:00:49,354 Morals have to come first. 1298 01:00:50,063 --> 01:00:52,815 Morals are based on the sense of social solidarity. 1299 01:00:52,899 --> 01:00:56,986 And that comes from a sense that we, are in fact, our brother's keeper. 1300 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,613 That comes from love. 1301 01:00:59,072 --> 01:01:00,740 That comes from a sense that... 1302 01:01:00,823 --> 01:01:04,160 that we should have love for each other all the time. 1303 01:01:04,452 --> 01:01:06,954 If everything works, if anything works, 1304 01:01:07,038 --> 01:01:10,375 it's because we're doing what we do on the basis of love in our lives. 1305 01:01:10,917 --> 01:01:12,669 [birds chirping] 1306 01:01:18,299 --> 01:01:21,177 This... this road is made for one and a quarter cars. 1307 01:01:21,260 --> 01:01:22,470 -So... -[chuckles] 1308 01:01:22,553 --> 01:01:25,473 ...the cars are coming up here around blind corners passing. 1309 01:01:26,099 --> 01:01:27,433 [Arthur] These guys are professionals. 1310 01:01:27,517 --> 01:01:30,478 But then you notice that there's a burned-out hole of a car, 1311 01:01:30,561 --> 01:01:32,855 off the side all the way down to the bottom of the cliff. 1312 01:01:32,939 --> 01:01:36,317 And you think, "Yeah, it's good until it's not." 1313 01:01:37,276 --> 01:01:38,695 [car horn honks] 1314 01:01:43,658 --> 01:01:47,245 [Arthur] We're on a windy road in the Himalayan foothills in India. 1315 01:01:47,328 --> 01:01:49,038 We're going to Dharamsala, 1316 01:01:49,122 --> 01:01:51,332 which is the home of His Holiness, the Dalai Lama. 1317 01:01:52,625 --> 01:01:55,586 He's a... a warrior for human welfare. 1318 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,757 He's a believer in the potential and dignity of every single person. 1319 01:02:00,550 --> 01:02:03,386 Free enterprise is about compassion and justice at its best. 1320 01:02:04,178 --> 01:02:05,179 So, therefore, 1321 01:02:05,638 --> 01:02:06,931 this is our stuff, too. 1322 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,394 I had this theory when I was a kid. 1323 01:02:12,228 --> 01:02:13,187 That... 1324 01:02:13,688 --> 01:02:15,940 you get to invent your whole life. 1325 01:02:16,274 --> 01:02:19,026 You choose your vocation. You choose your faith. 1326 01:02:19,110 --> 01:02:22,155 You choose it once. I thought about it, and... 1327 01:02:22,905 --> 01:02:24,031 I read a lot. 1328 01:02:24,115 --> 01:02:28,077 And, uh, I had a mystical experience at the shrine of Guadalupe in Mexico 1329 01:02:28,286 --> 01:02:31,247 when I was 15, revealed to me that I was Catholic. 1330 01:02:32,540 --> 01:02:34,041 [Arthur] For the longest time, I wondered, 1331 01:02:34,834 --> 01:02:35,960 "What if I never feel it?" 1332 01:02:36,043 --> 01:02:38,421 Then I realized, it doesn't matter. 1333 01:02:40,214 --> 01:02:43,843 It's a question of your commitment to a constant search for truth 1334 01:02:43,926 --> 01:02:45,011 notwithstanding what you feel. 1335 01:02:45,094 --> 01:02:47,722 If you're not willing to practice what you believe, 1336 01:02:47,847 --> 01:02:49,432 well, you're never gonna do anything. 1337 01:02:49,515 --> 01:02:51,392 And you're never actually going to find any truth. 1338 01:02:58,524 --> 01:02:59,984 [engine revving] 1339 01:03:02,737 --> 01:03:04,739 [tranquil music] 1340 01:03:05,198 --> 01:03:08,659 [Arthur] I think that the suspicion that people have about capitalism 1341 01:03:08,993 --> 01:03:11,704 comes, because they think people like me 1342 01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:14,123 don't believe in morals, 1343 01:03:14,207 --> 01:03:16,334 and they don't believe in any regulation at all. 1344 01:03:16,417 --> 01:03:17,460 That's not true. 1345 01:03:21,214 --> 01:03:22,757 We want to treat people right. 1346 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,177 We want to lift people up, and that's what matters the most. 1347 01:03:26,260 --> 01:03:29,388 Once we get that straight, then the markets can make that better. 1348 01:03:29,472 --> 01:03:31,307 But if we forget that first step, 1349 01:03:31,724 --> 01:03:32,892 everything will be ruined. 1350 01:03:33,226 --> 01:03:35,228 [calm music] 1351 01:03:38,981 --> 01:03:40,608 [Geshe] The biggest problem is, uh... 1352 01:03:41,025 --> 01:03:43,486 having no sensitivity to the needs of others. 1353 01:03:43,986 --> 01:03:46,197 Abundance is a good thing, so long as you... 1354 01:03:46,614 --> 01:03:49,826 uh, use it for others, not only just for yourself. 1355 01:03:50,701 --> 01:03:52,078 [Arthur] That's what greed really is. 1356 01:03:52,161 --> 01:03:55,164 It's putting yourself always ahead of other people. 1357 01:03:57,208 --> 01:04:00,086 I often reflect on the verse in the New Testament 1358 01:04:00,169 --> 01:04:02,380 that's most often misquoted. 1359 01:04:02,672 --> 01:04:04,423 "Money is the root of all evil." 1360 01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:06,300 It's a misquote of Saint Paul. 1361 01:04:06,509 --> 01:04:08,052 Here's the real scripture. 1362 01:04:08,386 --> 01:04:11,013 "For the love of money is the root of all evil." 1363 01:04:11,889 --> 01:04:15,393 And, and this really illuminates the problem of materialism. 1364 01:04:16,477 --> 01:04:19,272 It's not the existence of material things. 1365 01:04:19,355 --> 01:04:20,648 It's not the abundance around us. 1366 01:04:20,731 --> 01:04:21,566 That's great. 1367 01:04:21,649 --> 01:04:22,650 The problem is... 1368 01:04:23,317 --> 01:04:25,152 not the money, it's the love of money. 1369 01:04:26,195 --> 01:04:27,738 It's not the stuff. 1370 01:04:27,822 --> 01:04:28,990 The stuff isn't the problem. 1371 01:04:29,073 --> 01:04:31,284 It's the attachment to the stuff. 1372 01:04:33,578 --> 01:04:36,080 [Hindol] Even the Buddha was a prince. 1373 01:04:37,248 --> 01:04:38,416 They don't remember, 1374 01:04:38,624 --> 01:04:40,668 or often, they choose not to remember 1375 01:04:40,751 --> 01:04:42,628 that he began as a prince. 1376 01:04:43,462 --> 01:04:45,840 That the Buddha rose from abundance, 1377 01:04:46,215 --> 01:04:47,341 to detachment. 1378 01:04:48,259 --> 01:04:50,261 [light music] 1379 01:04:58,269 --> 01:05:02,273 Originally I, I have this sort of an impression of business people. 1380 01:05:02,815 --> 01:05:05,234 They are only concerned about profit, profit, profit. 1381 01:05:05,526 --> 01:05:07,236 And including exploitation. 1382 01:05:07,570 --> 01:05:11,324 Also, you see, it brought a lot of sorrow, education, new thinking. 1383 01:05:11,741 --> 01:05:13,868 It's a new way of life. Useful. 1384 01:05:14,744 --> 01:05:17,163 Uh, no matter what, what, what name the capitalism was, 1385 01:05:17,788 --> 01:05:19,624 we have to make friendship with capitalists. 1386 01:05:19,707 --> 01:05:21,542 [all laughing] 1387 01:05:21,792 --> 01:05:23,794 [Arthur] The Dalai Lama wants to collaborate with people 1388 01:05:23,878 --> 01:05:25,421 who think in all different ways. 1389 01:05:25,671 --> 01:05:27,506 We have to start by asking... 1390 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:32,345 Uh, "What actually does lead each of us to lead the best life?" 1391 01:05:33,054 --> 01:05:35,723 [Arthur] When I first started studying the teachings of the Dalai Lama, 1392 01:05:35,890 --> 01:05:38,100 I learned that Tibetan Buddhists say 1393 01:05:38,184 --> 01:05:40,603 that there are four secrets to a happy life. 1394 01:05:41,938 --> 01:05:43,522 The first two are really intuitive. 1395 01:05:44,357 --> 01:05:46,108 Enlightenment and spirituality. 1396 01:05:46,859 --> 01:05:47,902 That's what we should expect. 1397 01:05:47,985 --> 01:05:53,532 The last two secrets to a happy life, are worldly satisfaction and wealth. 1398 01:05:53,950 --> 01:05:56,452 We're surprised by worldly satisfaction and wealth. 1399 01:05:56,535 --> 01:05:58,037 First, worldly satisfaction. 1400 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,874 His Holiness tells us that we have to enjoy our lives. 1401 01:06:02,124 --> 01:06:04,418 And that comes from serving others. 1402 01:06:05,044 --> 01:06:07,421 The last is probably the most surprising 1403 01:06:07,505 --> 01:06:10,549 when his Holiness said that one of the pillars of a happy life is... 1404 01:06:10,633 --> 01:06:11,717 is wealth. 1405 01:06:12,051 --> 01:06:14,220 And I thought, "How can this be possible?" 1406 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,055 Is this materialism? 1407 01:06:16,138 --> 01:06:19,517 Is this, uh, a sense that money is just a good thing? 1408 01:06:20,184 --> 01:06:21,310 I didn't believe it. 1409 01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:23,396 But then, a year or so later, 1410 01:06:23,479 --> 01:06:25,648 I realized that I needed to understand 1411 01:06:25,731 --> 01:06:28,526 what you meant by "What it is to be wealthy?" 1412 01:06:29,110 --> 01:06:31,070 What is a wealthy person? 1413 01:06:32,196 --> 01:06:35,866 Well, recently, I was spending time with a friend of mine 1414 01:06:35,950 --> 01:06:37,660 who is an entrepreneur in Dharavi. 1415 01:06:37,743 --> 01:06:39,996 And his name is Krishna Pujari. 1416 01:06:40,496 --> 01:06:42,790 [Arthur] Krishna and I were walking around Dharavi 1417 01:06:43,124 --> 01:06:44,750 for, for several hours. 1418 01:06:45,334 --> 01:06:47,336 And he told me something very interesting. 1419 01:06:47,420 --> 01:06:50,673 Krishna told me that he was wealthy. 1420 01:06:51,382 --> 01:06:53,676 And I looked at him by my American standards 1421 01:06:53,759 --> 01:06:56,303 and I said, "How can he say he's wealthy? 1422 01:06:56,804 --> 01:06:58,431 He's poor by American standards. 1423 01:06:58,514 --> 01:07:00,766 I said, "What do you mean that you're wealthy?" 1424 01:07:00,933 --> 01:07:04,562 And he said, "I'm wealthy because I've been able to do three things. 1425 01:07:05,312 --> 01:07:06,522 Build something, 1426 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,733 earn my living, 1427 01:07:09,275 --> 01:07:10,901 -and serve other people." -[chuckles] 1428 01:07:11,193 --> 01:07:13,070 "And that's what it means to be wealthy." 1429 01:07:13,154 --> 01:07:16,991 And that's when I understood, finally, is what His Holiness meant 1430 01:07:17,199 --> 01:07:20,578 for the pillar of a happiest life, which is wealth. 1431 01:07:21,537 --> 01:07:23,706 You should make yourself 1432 01:07:24,081 --> 01:07:27,918 something useful among the seven billion human beings. 1433 01:07:28,294 --> 01:07:33,466 That's the real source of self-dignity and self-respect, yeah? 1434 01:07:35,301 --> 01:07:38,929 You remain isolated from society and jobless. 1435 01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:41,432 Then, actually, you're wasting. 1436 01:07:41,891 --> 01:07:42,933 Waste of... waste of life. 1437 01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:45,102 [calm music] 1438 01:07:46,228 --> 01:07:48,856 [Dalai Lama] Everyone wants a happy life. 1439 01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:50,691 They do not want suffering. 1440 01:07:51,108 --> 01:07:52,943 Yet, a lot of suffering. 1441 01:07:53,527 --> 01:07:54,945 Our own peace. 1442 01:07:56,530 --> 01:07:58,741 This place is filled with people who are looking for truth. 1443 01:07:58,824 --> 01:08:00,034 They were looking for happiness. 1444 01:08:00,451 --> 01:08:02,036 [Arthur] And that's what I'm looking for, too. 1445 01:08:02,119 --> 01:08:03,454 That's what everybody's looking for. 1446 01:08:05,873 --> 01:08:07,374 Money cannot provide... 1447 01:08:07,792 --> 01:08:08,834 uh, love. 1448 01:08:09,585 --> 01:08:10,753 We need love. 1449 01:08:11,170 --> 01:08:13,881 You are showing genuine interest, 1450 01:08:14,173 --> 01:08:15,382 not only in money matter, 1451 01:08:15,716 --> 01:08:17,676 but more wider perspective 1452 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,512 I really, very much appreciate. 1453 01:08:19,970 --> 01:08:21,722 -[Dalai Lama] Thank you. -Thank you, Your Holiness. 1454 01:08:22,306 --> 01:08:24,725 [Dalai Lama] Each of us have the ability. 1455 01:08:25,601 --> 01:08:26,644 Dream something. 1456 01:08:27,019 --> 01:08:28,270 Change the world. 1457 01:08:28,854 --> 01:08:29,897 Not from profit... 1458 01:08:30,314 --> 01:08:31,565 from individual. 1459 01:08:37,071 --> 01:08:39,073 [calm music] 1460 01:08:47,790 --> 01:08:50,543 [Arthur] I remember looking at it when I worked here. 1461 01:08:51,460 --> 01:08:52,753 I remember looking up and thinking, 1462 01:08:52,837 --> 01:08:54,672 "Man, this is the most amazing thing I've ever seen." 1463 01:08:54,964 --> 01:08:57,091 Every tile, every bit of mosaic. 1464 01:09:00,386 --> 01:09:02,555 Look at the stained glass, modernist thing. 1465 01:09:02,638 --> 01:09:03,722 It's unbelievable. 1466 01:09:05,266 --> 01:09:06,684 All I remember thinking was, 1467 01:09:06,934 --> 01:09:08,769 "I hope I don't screw up this concert." 1468 01:09:10,187 --> 01:09:11,897 [Arthur] I'm a really lucky person. 1469 01:09:12,815 --> 01:09:14,692 I'm the luckiest guy I know, actually. 1470 01:09:15,609 --> 01:09:18,070 I've had the opportunity to live in different places, 1471 01:09:18,654 --> 01:09:20,489 to know all different kinds of people. 1472 01:09:21,740 --> 01:09:23,200 All throughout my life, 1473 01:09:23,284 --> 01:09:25,286 I've met people in different circumstances, 1474 01:09:25,369 --> 01:09:26,787 who want to come to America, 1475 01:09:27,079 --> 01:09:30,082 because the idea of America touches their hearts. 1476 01:09:31,750 --> 01:09:33,669 I was born in Spokane, Washington. 1477 01:09:34,336 --> 01:09:35,337 But in truth, 1478 01:09:35,671 --> 01:09:37,506 I'm an immigrant to America, too. 1479 01:09:39,091 --> 01:09:41,510 [Arthur] What you got there? There's no mouthpiece in that either. 1480 01:09:41,594 --> 01:09:42,970 I do, I have a mouthpiece. 1481 01:09:43,345 --> 01:09:44,555 Don't worry about it. 1482 01:09:46,056 --> 01:09:47,308 Where did you get this? 1483 01:09:49,476 --> 01:09:51,145 This is actually a decent instrument. 1484 01:09:51,812 --> 01:09:52,688 [Ester] It is. 1485 01:09:55,065 --> 01:09:56,984 [chuckles] I haven't played a note in 20 years. 1486 01:09:57,610 --> 01:09:59,737 -[Arthur] What are you doing? -Here we go. 1487 01:09:59,820 --> 01:10:01,030 [laughs] 1488 01:10:01,697 --> 01:10:03,157 [rattling] 1489 01:10:08,162 --> 01:10:10,164 [playing French horn] 1490 01:10:22,509 --> 01:10:24,261 [Arthur] I could have lived in Barcelona forever. 1491 01:10:24,929 --> 01:10:27,932 But she said, "No, I wanna live in the States. 1492 01:10:28,015 --> 01:10:29,600 I wanna see what it's like." 1493 01:10:30,517 --> 01:10:32,019 When we got there, she said, 1494 01:10:32,686 --> 01:10:34,688 "This is a country for dreamers, 1495 01:10:35,105 --> 01:10:37,024 for people who want to build their lives." 1496 01:10:38,567 --> 01:10:40,861 That had such a huge impact on me. 1497 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,072 I mean, I was an immigrant to my own country. 1498 01:10:43,155 --> 01:10:45,366 And I... I felt like I'd never seen my own country before. 1499 01:10:45,449 --> 01:10:48,369 I'd come into my own country, um... 1500 01:10:48,827 --> 01:10:50,162 not knowing what to expect. 1501 01:10:50,287 --> 01:10:53,123 And that's what we found, opportunity. 1502 01:10:53,499 --> 01:10:55,626 [French horn playing] 1503 01:11:01,966 --> 01:11:03,384 [playing stops] 1504 01:11:07,096 --> 01:11:09,098 [Ester clapping] 1505 01:11:12,309 --> 01:11:13,394 [Arthur] Here's the thing. 1506 01:11:13,727 --> 01:11:15,479 I'm actually a progressive. 1507 01:11:17,273 --> 01:11:23,612 I have these traditionally conservative means to get universal ends. 1508 01:11:23,862 --> 01:11:25,864 [calm music] 1509 01:11:26,657 --> 01:11:29,118 [Arthur] Everybody remembers the words 1510 01:11:29,368 --> 01:11:32,037 to the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence. 1511 01:11:32,705 --> 01:11:34,915 About holding certain truths. 1512 01:11:35,416 --> 01:11:37,334 That these truths include life, 1513 01:11:37,793 --> 01:11:38,752 liberty, 1514 01:11:39,336 --> 01:11:41,630 and the pursuit of happiness. 1515 01:11:42,256 --> 01:11:44,508 Why did they talk about happiness? It's interesting. 1516 01:11:44,591 --> 01:11:47,052 You go back and you, you read the words of Thomas Jefferson. 1517 01:11:47,136 --> 01:11:48,387 He was asked later, 1518 01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:50,764 "Why did you write about the pursuit of happiness?" 1519 01:11:50,848 --> 01:11:55,019 And he said that he was simply taking dictation from the American mind. 1520 01:11:57,521 --> 01:11:58,439 Really what he was doing 1521 01:11:58,522 --> 01:12:00,607 is taking dictation from the American heart. 1522 01:12:01,442 --> 01:12:05,821 Because this is the ethos on which the United States was built. 1523 01:12:07,364 --> 01:12:08,949 [Arthur] George Washington was a rich guy. 1524 01:12:09,325 --> 01:12:11,035 Ben Franklin had a lot of dough. 1525 01:12:11,535 --> 01:12:13,746 Those guys were writing these documents, 1526 01:12:13,829 --> 01:12:16,790 not for them and their landed gentry friends. 1527 01:12:17,583 --> 01:12:20,627 They were writing it for the riffraff all around them. 1528 01:12:21,170 --> 01:12:23,422 If you're gonna understand the American experience 1529 01:12:23,505 --> 01:12:26,300 as Thomas Jefferson was talking about it, 1530 01:12:26,383 --> 01:12:28,469 the experience written on the American Heart, 1531 01:12:29,094 --> 01:12:31,555 the experience my great-grandparents were seeking, 1532 01:12:32,306 --> 01:12:34,099 that my own wife was seeking. 1533 01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:36,977 Like people all over the world today, 1534 01:12:37,061 --> 01:12:39,938 who are Americans in their hearts whether they're here or not, 1535 01:12:40,856 --> 01:12:43,692 you really have to understand the pursuit of happiness. 1536 01:12:44,109 --> 01:12:46,612 That's not, "How do we make sure everybody's happy?" 1537 01:12:46,695 --> 01:12:50,699 It's, "How can we pursue our happiness as active." 1538 01:12:51,158 --> 01:12:53,369 Well, you know, happiness is a funny thing. 1539 01:12:53,452 --> 01:12:56,872 Happiness is, uh, is not something you obtain. 1540 01:12:57,081 --> 01:12:59,083 Happiness for me, is to... 1541 01:12:59,500 --> 01:13:01,502 provide happiness to other people. 1542 01:13:01,585 --> 01:13:04,421 Being able to do what I need to do for my son. 1543 01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:07,216 [in Hindi] If my kids get educated and do well, 1544 01:13:07,299 --> 01:13:08,759 that will make me happy. 1545 01:13:11,428 --> 01:13:15,015 [Arthur] I'm convinced that we can lift up the world together. 1546 01:13:15,724 --> 01:13:19,103 We can pull the next two billion people out of poverty. 1547 01:13:19,978 --> 01:13:24,233 We can give people around the world the freedom to pursue their happiness. 1548 01:13:24,566 --> 01:13:27,486 And in the process, come together as a country. 1549 01:13:29,113 --> 01:13:31,198 That's what I plan to do for the rest of my life. 1550 01:13:32,282 --> 01:13:34,410 To be a warrior for human dignity 1551 01:13:34,660 --> 01:13:36,370 and potential for all people. 1552 01:13:38,622 --> 01:13:41,583 I want America to live up to its true promise, 1553 01:13:42,084 --> 01:13:45,045 as a country of ambitious riffraff. 1554 01:13:45,462 --> 01:13:47,131 Pursuing happiness... 1555 01:13:47,756 --> 01:13:50,175 building something good and meaningful. 1556 01:13:50,717 --> 01:13:52,219 Earning our success... 1557 01:13:52,970 --> 01:13:54,263 and serving each other. 1558 01:14:02,813 --> 01:14:04,815 [tranquil music] 120060

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