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(low rumbling)
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If you were to ask people today
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what is the worst man-made
disaster in peace time,
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they'd probably say something
like, "Oh, the Titanic."
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(indistinct chatter)
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1912-- 1,512 lives.
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Or they might say,
"Oh, Chernobyl."
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And maybe a few hundred lives
have gone to that.
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But they might say, if they're
being a bit more knowledgeable,
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"When then Union Carbide plant
blew up at Bhopal."
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And-and the number of people
dead or injured
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by that may be as high
as 10,000.
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But thalidomide outstrips
all of those,
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ten times over and more.
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The thalidomide disaster
probably destroyed
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more than 100,000 babies,
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injured a million adults.
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And yet it doesn't feature
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in-in the list
that springs to people's mind.
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(indistinct chatter)
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(indistinct chatter)
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Shall we sit down together
and have a look...
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HAROLD EVANS: The dilemma
for The Sunday Times
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and thalidomide is this.
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We had the information that
the compensation was inadequate.
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We had more than a suspicion
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that the manufacturer
of the drug had been negligent.
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But the law of contempt
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meant that neither of these
approaches to the story
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of thalidomide
could be published.
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♪ ♪
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By the 1960s,
society was much more complex.
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Corporations had grown
more powerful,
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more invasive in-in--
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for good and bad--
in people's lives.
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But nobody knew how complex.
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MPs didn't know.
They hadn't got a clue.
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Parliament as engine
of investigation inquiry
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was useless-- nothing
to compare with Congress.
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So it was like somebody
being in a prison cell.
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The British press was like this.
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Anybody who reached out
their arms...
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would hit the walls.
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The walls of libel,
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contempt of court,
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Official Secrets Act,
confidence.
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When we tried
to expose the plight
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of thalidomide children
who were born
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without their arms and legs...
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They'd lain
without compensation,
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being born as trunks
for ten years!
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Why wasn't there a huge
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national scandal about it?
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Why?
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Because the law of contempt
said you were not allowed
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to comment on a case
before the courts.
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That was the situation.
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How could anybody
stand for that?
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♪ ♪
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(typewriters clicking)
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ALAN RUSBRIDGER: You-you look
back on that-that Sunday Times,
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uh, and you admire
the courage of a man.
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He-he took on big
vested interests,
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uh, in the face of very
difficult legal circumstances.
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And he blasted open some of the,
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some of the, um,
legal challenges
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to journalism, uh,
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in ways from which
we've all benefited.
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(birds chirping)
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My real interest
in journalism begins,
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actually, when I was 12.
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The war was on.
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My father was
driving steam trains.
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Occasionally, once every
two years, we got a chance
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to go on a family vacation.
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(kids screaming playfully)
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And we went to Rhyll.
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We were walking
along the beach,
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and there were a group of people
lying down in the distance.
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And my dad stopped,
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which really exasperated me,
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on knees,
and started talking to them.
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And they were
survivors of Dunkirk.
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MALE REPORTER:
Out from the hell
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that is Dunkirk,
back from the steel thrust
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of the German war machine
comes the B.E.F.
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EVANS:
I didn't realize
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till later,
when I went into journalism,
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that he was doing
what a good reporter did.
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He asked questions.
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"What was it like?
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"Wh-What happened?
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Wh-What was your equipment?"
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And so on.
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And they gave him
such a story of desperation.
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They felt they'd been let down
by the Royal Air Force,
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by the French, about the
Maginot Line being a nonsense.
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And when we got back
to the boarding house--
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we didn't stay in hotels,
we stayed in boarding houses--
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there was a Daily Mirror
front page up there.
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"Bloody Marvellous!"
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"Bloody Marvellous,"
it said about the evacuation.
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And then I thought,
"But my dad's telling
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"a completely different story.
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Who's telling the truth?"
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Think of 9/11.
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And what happened in the ex--
in the rush to be patriotic,
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the British people
and the American people
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actually went along
with an atrocity--
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the invasion of Iraq.
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So what is the duty
of a newspaper
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in those circumstances?
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Is it to keep up
people's morale?
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Or is to do the much
more difficult job,
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still very difficult,
of going against the grain
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of popular opinion
and looking for the truth?
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NARRATOR: His most high profile
and emotionally draining
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campaign also had its origins
in the Second World War.
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I am the officer
commanding the regiment
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of Royal Artillery
guarding this camp.
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The officers and men
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regard this job as a duty
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that has to be performed, and
none of us are likely to forget
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what the German people
have done here.
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NARRATOR:
The German company
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Chemie Grunenthal had been a
soap and perfume manufacturer.
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But in 1946, it diversified
to exploit a voracious
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postwar demand
for antibiotics and sedatives.
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Authorities were concerned
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that the unsanitary conditions
in which people were living
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were likely
to lead to epidemics,
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and sedatives and sleeping
tablets were much in demand
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by a people whose nerves
were shattered.
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By the mid-'50s,
Germany was a calmer place.
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Chemie Grunenthal
faced stiff competition
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from other
pharmaceutical companies.
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And the demand
for their sedatives
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and antibiotics had fallen
to normal levels.
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They needed a best-seller.
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And they thought
they'd found it
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in thalidomide,
an addictive euphoric.
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At the time, barbiturates
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were much more
prevalent than today,
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and people were inadvertently
overdosing in alarming numbers.
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An appealing selling point
was that it was believed
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to be impossible
to overdose on the drug.
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JOHNSON:
The particular focus
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on supplying thalidomide
to pregnant women
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came about because,
at that time,
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the prevailing medical belief
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was that morning sickness
was psychosomatic.
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And I've had this from the drug
company salesmen themselves.
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They-they thought that if,
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if a pregnant woman
was being sick,
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because she was just
overexcited about have--
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being pregnant,
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you'd sedate her,
and she'd calm down
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and she'd stop being sick.
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(film projector rattling)
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NARRATOR:
Christmas Day, 1956.
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In Stahlberg, Germany,
a young nervous
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expectant father,
who worked as a chemist
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for Chemie Grunenthal,
was waiting for news
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from the delivery room.
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But the news he received
was not what he'd hoped.
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His child was born
with no ears.
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His wife had been given samples
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of the Chemie Grunenthal's
wonder drug
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to help combat
her morning sickness.
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That Christmas Day
saw the delivery of
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the world's first
thalidomide baby.
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(machine chugging)
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The fact that one of the very
few women given the drug
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had had a deformed baby
was not picked up on.
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And Chemie Grunenthal
went ahead
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and marketed their product
across the world.
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A handful of countries,
including the U.S.,
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refused it a license,
but most accepted
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the manufacturer's
test data on face value,
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and allowed the drug
to be prescribed.
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In 1958, it was licensed
for use in the U.K.
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under the trade name Distaval.
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The active drug substance
in both Distaval
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and Contergan was thalidomide.
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SADIE GALVIN: Well, I didn't
even know I'd taken it.
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I felt unwell for a week.
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And, um, Wednesday afternoon,
closed the shop,
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decided to go round the corner,
just a few yards
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round the corner to see my GP.
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And she said, "I've got a new
drug that's out, a miracle."
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She said the word "miracle,"
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miracle drug.
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"It's fantastic.
You'll be okay."
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So I took
the little bit of paper,
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not realizing I had accepted
my death warrant that day.
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PEARL DANDILY:
From the minute I got caught,
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I had that sickness.
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The chemist told me, like...
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I said, "Do you know
about these tablets?"
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And he just said, "Oh, they're
for helping you to sleep
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and-and sickness."
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So I took 'em.
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Which they did, they was good,
don't get me wrong.
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They were smashing when I...
when I took 'em, you know.
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I felt real good.
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Vicky and I got married.
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She was 21. I was 22.
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After some months,
Vicky told me she was pregnant,
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and we were
absolutely thrilled.
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And she went along
to see her doctor,
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who said that he thought
she was a bit anemic.
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So, fine,
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so he gave her a prescription
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for iron tablets and one other.
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And I'd been asking her,
"Can you feel the baby kick?"
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And she used to say,
"Well, not kick, but press."
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I started into labor at 7:10
on the Saturday morning.
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And my husband always worked
on a Saturday morning.
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And I just said to him, uh,
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"You'd better get round
and bring the midwife."
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And I'd just put
me legs on the bed,
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and she come and she went,
"Oh, my God."
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And the sleeves went up
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and no coat off
and she just dived in.
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"Dived in."
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And she was born
at ten minutes to 8:00!
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And, uh, and my husband come in
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and he just said, "I'm sorry,
love," and he was crying.
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My mum was a-a midwife,
you know.
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She'd seen all sorts of things
through her nursing career,
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and, uh, she said, you know,
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to the nurses, you know, "Well,
where's my, you know, son?"
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And they said,
"Well, we've just, uh, you know,
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we've taken him away."
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Uh, and one of the nurses said,
"And you won't see him."
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And there was the, uh, cradle
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with, uh, Louise lying in there
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that can only be described
as a, as a torso
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with sort of little flowers
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where the arms and legs
should be.
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And, uh, after a few hours,
I-I got myself together
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and I went back to the hospital
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to find, uh, Vicky, you know,
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in a terrible state
and a priest in the room.
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He said, "Well, I'm explaining
to Vicky that it's God's will."
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I said, "You don't know what
the hell you're talking about.
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Not God's will at all.
It's drugs. It's pills. Out!"
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And I threw him out.
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There was a very low
level of expectation
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when we were all born.
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Um, we were all written off,
and, uh, my mother was told
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that I would probably only live
for about six weeks.
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And, in fact, when I was born,
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apparently, um,
they thought I was stillborn,
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and I was put in
some kind of a container
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and put in...
put under me mother's bed.
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And I don't know
whether I coughed
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or someone knocked the box
or something--
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there was some kind of movement,
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and then they realized
I was, I was alive.
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What has also become clear
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is that a large number of babies
were actually born alive,
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but they weren't
allowed to live.
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The doctor came to me
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and said that my son
was born handicapped.
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In fact, his arms
and legs were short.
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Doctors and midwives were
suffocating deformed babies
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or they were, in the hospitals,
putting them out in the cold...
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on the cold slab
in the cold room,
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in the hope
that they'd die quietly.
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He thought
it'd probably be best that...
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I should go home
and forget I'd ever had him
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and have another one
straightaway.
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My mother and father, thank God,
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had saved up enough
from the dogs,
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and my mother opened
a small shop,
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counting ra... during rationing.
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So they'd accumulated
enough money,
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and they got me
into a girls' college.
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How did I pull that off?
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I mean, the girls were learning
shorthand and typing.
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They've got a shorthand
stiffing of 120 words a minute.
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"Can I get a job?"
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EVANS:
In 1961,
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I was offered the editorship
of The Northern Echo,
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a great daily newspaper
in Darlington,
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circulation of
more than 100,000,
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and which had once
been edited by
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one of the greatest
British journalists,
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called W.T. Stead.
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In fact, I sat at the desk,
and there was
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a handwritten letter
he wrote to his proprietors
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in eight... late eight...
19th century saying,
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"Thank you.
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"What a marvelous opportunity
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for attacking the devil."
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Not off this block, sorry.
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There's a story coming on
with that one.
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But, um, there we are.
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NARRATOR: He saw campaigns
as the way ahead.
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He had a sharp eye
for which issues to zero in on
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and began to develop techniques
which would prove his hallmark.
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EVANS:
I wrote a paragraph
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like this in The Sunday Times
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to say that Vancouver was
introducing a campaign...
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no, introducing a program
for what's called a Pap smear,
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to detect cervical cancer
in women
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before it developed
into full cancer.
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And I thought, "Well,
why don't we have one of those?"
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NARRATOR: The method had been
known since the 1920s
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and was in use
in many other countries.
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Death rates began
to fall remarkably
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after the American
Cancer Society
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introduced Pap smears in 1957.
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Every year, 2,500 women died
needlessly in the U.K.
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So we began a campaign.
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NARRATOR: He wrote editorials,
articles and pamphlets
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and contacted every MP to try
and persuade the government
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to have a screening program
in Britain.
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The Minister of Health
at the time was Enoch Powell.
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And so the local MP,
Jeremy Braid,
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got up and asked a question.
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Said, "Uh, Minister,
in the light of the articles
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"in the Northern Echo,
will the minister agree to start
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a program for the detection
of cervical cancer in women?"
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Mr. Powell rose.
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"No, sir."
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Okay.
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Week after week.
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"No, sir. No, sir.
No, sir. No, sir."
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Here was a brilliant man
without a heart.
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NARRATOR: The drip, drip, drip
campaign continued,
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week in and week out.
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EVANS:
Until, finally,
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the Minister of Health
was changed to Anthony Barber,
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and he said, "Yes, sir.
I'll set up a pilot program."
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NARRATOR: The Northern Echo's
cervical cancer campaign
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showed how a newspaper
could persuade
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those in power
to change their minds.
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To this day,
tens of thousands of women
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owe their lives
to the power of the press.
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And Harry found
that there was no shortage
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of wrongs to be righted.
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MOTHER: He wasn't a boy
of violent nature.
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He loved his wife and baby.
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REPORTER: What did he tell you
at the time though,
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when you went
to see him in prison?
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MOTHER: He said,
"Go and see Christie, Mum.
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He's the only man can help me."
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He said, "I never touched 'em."
He said, "Christie done it."
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PARKINSON:
At the time,
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the trial of Timothy Evans
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excited very little
public interest.
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But three years after
Evans had-had been hung,
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his trial took on a new
and disturbing importance.
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In March, 1953,
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the bodies of three strangled
women were discovered here,
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in this alcove
in Christie's kitchen.
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HAROLD EVANS:
They quickly executed Christie
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without really uncovering
the true story,
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which was that Christie
was a serial killer.
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He'd killed many women.
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He just happened to be
in the same house with Evans.
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NARRATOR:
Questions were now being asked
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about the Evans verdict.
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Harry's involvement began
when he was contacted
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by a local businessman
in the Northeast.
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EVANS: Herbert Wolf
sent me an article.
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And I'm reading this article,
and I'm so...
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shocked.
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I went to see the Home Secretary
who signed the death warrant,
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and I said,
"You signed the death warrant."
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He said, "I-I did,
and I regret it.
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We hanged the wrong man."
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I said, "We've got to get it...
justice done."
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He said,
"You will never get it done
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against the forces
of Whitehall."
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So I got hold of Herbert Wolf,
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and the two of us decided
to work together.
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And we...
I published one editorial,
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then another editorial,
then another editorial.
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I commissioned articles
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on previous hangings
that had gone wrong,
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the history
of the death penalty,
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the life of Timothy Evans,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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NARRATOR: The Echo campaign
lasted 12 months.
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Every edition of the paper
was decorated
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with the Man on
Our Conscience logo.
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Relentlessly,
this drip, drip, drip went on
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until even the staff began
to wonder
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if it was going to succeed.
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EVANS: A newspaper campaign has
to be prolonged, very often.
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Because the forces
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of rigidity are strong,
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particularly in bureaucracies.
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And, secondly, it takes time
for the penny to drop.
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There's a famous American editor
who said,
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"The moment a newspaper man
tires of his campaign
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"is the moment
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the public is
just beginning to notice it."
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NARRATOR: Meanwhile,
there was a growing consensus
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in the country that the time
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to abolish the death penalty
had come.
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EVANS:
And, finally,
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the Home Secretary
was now a new man
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called Roy Jenkins,
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great reforming Home Secretary,
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and he announced
that we'd have a public enquiry
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into the hanging.
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It was a model verdict,
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00:23:42,249 --> 00:23:44,769
but, nonetheless,
it enabled Roy Jenkins
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to get up
in the House of Commons
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and, uh, announce a pardon.
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So we won. And at the same time,
the death penalty was abolished.
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Now, I can't claim that
we abolished the death penalty.
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Many campaigners
had been on that,
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uh, particularly
Sydney Silverman.
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But I think we can say
that Herbert Wolf
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and Ludovic Kennedy
and Michael Eddowes
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and, to some extent, myself
helped to speed up the process.
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NARRATOR: By 1962,
the full horror of thalidomide
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was obvious,
and the drug banned worldwide.
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(news theme playing)
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MALE REPORTER: The problem
of tighter controls to prevent
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the distribution of dangerous
drugs such as thalidomide
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is a matter of concern
to the president
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at his news conference.
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He outlines the steps
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the government plans to take.
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KENNEDY:
The Food and Drug Administration
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have had nearly 200 people
working on this.
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Every doctor, every hospital,
every nurse have been notified.
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Every woman
in this country, I think,
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must be aware
that it's most important
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that they check their
medicine cabinet and that
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they do not take this drug,
that they turn it in.
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NARRATOR: But unlike the
American health authorities,
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the British Minister of Health,
Enoch Powell,
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said no to a public inquiry,
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no to setting up
a drugs testing center,
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no to issuing a warning against
anyone using leftover pills,
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because he thought it
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a scare-mongering
publicity stunt,
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and no to giving
a statement afterwards.
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"No need to bring the press
into this," he said.
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EVANS:
Mr. Enoch Powell
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had been asked if he would
set up a public inquiry
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to discover
how was it possible
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for a National Health Service
doctor
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to prescribe a pill
which is going to have
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these devastating effects.
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Mr. Enoch Powell said,
"No, sir."
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The thalidomide parents
went to see him,
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and had the same answer.
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And the civil servants
gave them the same answer.
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Everybody gave the same answer--
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i.e. you're on your own.
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NARRATOR: Powell's
unwillingness to help them
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left the families
with only one remedy:
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To sue the manufacturers
for negligence.
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But the families
had pitted themselves
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against a formidable opponent.
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Worth the equivalent today
of four billion pounds,
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Distillers Group produced
a raft of famous brands,
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including such household names
as Johnnie Walker Whisky
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and Gordon's Gin.
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Its chairman,
Alexander MacDonald,
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had gained a reputation
as a man of granite.
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The families had to rely
on public funding.
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But the government begrudged
spending taxpayers' money
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on what it regarded
as a weak case.
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Every single newspaper
said the same thing--
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The Guardian, the Economist,
The Times, the Telegraph--
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saying the same thing
as the drug company,
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the Ministry of Health.
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What they were saying was...
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this drug was tested
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according to
the standards of the time
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when nobody thought a drug could
cross the placental barrier
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and affect the fetus.
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And the solicitors representing
the families had accepted this.
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So if you imagine,
here you have the families
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represented by a legal firm
487
00:27:37,605 --> 00:27:42,685
who agrees with them that
there's no case for the parents.
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You can't have
a case of negligence,
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because there's been
no negligence,
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because they did
the standard test at the time.
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NARRATOR: With no idea
of the darker background
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to thalidomide,
Harry ran a story
493
00:27:55,325 --> 00:27:56,925
in The Northern Echo in order
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00:27:56,925 --> 00:27:59,165
to win sympathy
for the children.
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00:27:59,165 --> 00:28:01,245
EVANS:
I published these photographs
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expecting to evoke sympathy
for the children.
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And what I got instead of
sympathy was criticism.
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00:28:09,645 --> 00:28:12,685
Uh, uh, not a...
almost a denunciation.
499
00:28:12,685 --> 00:28:15,405
"We do not want to see
pictures like this
500
00:28:15,405 --> 00:28:17,605
"in our newspaper.
501
00:28:17,605 --> 00:28:23,044
"Please do not show us
these scary things."
502
00:28:23,044 --> 00:28:25,324
NARRATOR: Although most families
were scared off
503
00:28:25,324 --> 00:28:29,684
by Distillers lawyers,
62 families did issue writs.
504
00:28:29,684 --> 00:28:31,564
Once the writs
had been issued though,
505
00:28:31,564 --> 00:28:34,044
it became illegal
for the press to print facts
506
00:28:34,044 --> 00:28:36,044
or comment on a pending trial.
507
00:28:36,044 --> 00:28:38,884
With thalidomide, this meant
that nothing could be published
508
00:28:38,884 --> 00:28:41,924
that might influence a judge
until every case--
509
00:28:41,924 --> 00:28:45,644
every single case--
had been settled by the courts.
510
00:28:45,644 --> 00:28:47,524
GEOFFREY ROBERTSON:
Whenever
511
00:28:47,524 --> 00:28:49,764
a-a rich company was...
512
00:28:49,764 --> 00:28:52,924
had acted badly, they would sue.
513
00:28:52,924 --> 00:28:55,924
They would issue what we called
"a gagging writ,"
514
00:28:55,924 --> 00:28:59,844
which gagged all criticism
under the pretext
515
00:28:59,844 --> 00:29:02,884
that it was sub judice,
that it was in court.
516
00:29:02,884 --> 00:29:05,284
So no one could
comment critically
517
00:29:05,284 --> 00:29:07,324
on any of the parties.
518
00:29:07,324 --> 00:29:11,004
NARRATOR: Distillers response
to the 62 families
519
00:29:11,004 --> 00:29:13,444
was to wait until
just over three years
520
00:29:13,444 --> 00:29:15,404
to reach an out-of-court
settlement,
521
00:29:15,404 --> 00:29:18,084
in which, although
not accepting liability,
522
00:29:18,084 --> 00:29:20,843
they agreed to pay
some compensation.
523
00:29:20,843 --> 00:29:23,083
Most of the other
victims' families
524
00:29:23,083 --> 00:29:26,963
had no idea that a settlement
had been in the offing.
525
00:29:26,963 --> 00:29:28,683
By design or happy coincidence,
526
00:29:28,683 --> 00:29:32,443
once the case had been settled
and the press free to report,
527
00:29:32,443 --> 00:29:34,403
the three years
statute of limitations
528
00:29:34,403 --> 00:29:36,763
on personal damages
had expired.
529
00:29:36,763 --> 00:29:39,523
The families of
the other parents were deemed
530
00:29:39,523 --> 00:29:43,603
out of time
and wouldn't be able to sue.
531
00:29:43,603 --> 00:29:47,683
One of the out-of-time parents
was David Mason.
532
00:29:49,883 --> 00:29:52,403
MALE REPORTER: David Mason,
West End art dealer.
533
00:29:52,403 --> 00:29:54,603
A man who built up
his business from scratch
534
00:29:54,603 --> 00:29:56,443
when he was earning
three pounds a week.
535
00:29:56,443 --> 00:29:58,443
Father of four,
536
00:29:58,443 --> 00:30:01,163
and one of them one of
the first thalidomide children.
537
00:30:01,163 --> 00:30:04,203
And a man who,
alone, pitted himself
538
00:30:04,203 --> 00:30:06,443
against the multimillion
pound might
539
00:30:06,443 --> 00:30:08,683
of the Distillers company.
540
00:30:12,923 --> 00:30:15,403
MASON:
I can remember thinking,
541
00:30:15,403 --> 00:30:19,003
even in those days--
w-was not a litigious society--
542
00:30:19,003 --> 00:30:21,963
"I'm going after Distillers,
543
00:30:21,963 --> 00:30:23,722
"and I'm gonna
make them accountable
544
00:30:23,722 --> 00:30:25,642
"for all these deformities
545
00:30:25,642 --> 00:30:27,322
that they've caused
with other children."
546
00:30:27,322 --> 00:30:29,522
I hadn't been told
how many were involved,
547
00:30:29,522 --> 00:30:32,442
but I knew that there were
other children involved,
548
00:30:32,442 --> 00:30:33,922
were other victims.
549
00:30:33,922 --> 00:30:36,442
And that was the start of it.
550
00:30:37,642 --> 00:30:41,042
NARRATOR:
It would also be a new start
551
00:30:41,042 --> 00:30:43,562
for Harry Evans.
552
00:30:43,562 --> 00:30:47,522
The campaigns of this obscure
northern newspaper editor
553
00:30:47,522 --> 00:30:50,082
and, in particular,
that of cervical cancer,
554
00:30:50,082 --> 00:30:52,162
had caught the eye
of the then editor
555
00:30:52,162 --> 00:30:53,882
of The Sunday Times,
556
00:30:53,882 --> 00:30:57,882
Denis Hamilton, who was on
the lookout for his successor.
557
00:30:57,882 --> 00:31:00,482
It had taken just 20 years
558
00:31:00,482 --> 00:31:02,962
from his first days at
the Ashton Under-lyne Reporter
559
00:31:02,962 --> 00:31:05,482
for the boy
who failed his 11-Plus
560
00:31:05,482 --> 00:31:08,042
to be offered the editorship
of one of the most
561
00:31:08,042 --> 00:31:11,202
highly-regarded newspapers
in the world.
562
00:31:14,322 --> 00:31:17,562
Harry Evans' Sunday Times was
a-a kind of golden age,
563
00:31:17,562 --> 00:31:19,882
not only because of
the editorship,
564
00:31:19,882 --> 00:31:22,122
but also because of
the proprietorship.
565
00:31:23,562 --> 00:31:27,041
So, he edited under
Lord Thomson, who was the last
566
00:31:27,041 --> 00:31:30,161
of the sort of grandee
broadsheet press barons.
567
00:31:31,641 --> 00:31:33,921
Basically, most of my time
on The Sunday Times
568
00:31:33,921 --> 00:31:35,721
was on investigative journalism.
569
00:31:35,721 --> 00:31:39,401
Well, it's a hell
of a difficult job.
570
00:31:48,281 --> 00:31:50,441
PHILLIP KNIGHTLEY:
Working for him was fun.
571
00:31:50,441 --> 00:31:52,161
I got up every day
572
00:31:52,161 --> 00:31:56,681
with a sense of adventure,
going in to The Sunday Times,
573
00:31:56,681 --> 00:31:59,001
of what we're going to do
this week.
574
00:31:59,001 --> 00:32:01,521
And whatever it was,
it was going to be bright
575
00:32:01,521 --> 00:32:03,601
and it was
going to cause people who,
576
00:32:03,601 --> 00:32:06,121
as they opened
their Sunday Times
577
00:32:06,121 --> 00:32:09,161
on Sunday morning
to say, "Wow."
578
00:32:09,161 --> 00:32:10,761
NARRATOR:
The Sunday Times employed
579
00:32:10,761 --> 00:32:12,121
its investigative journalists
580
00:32:12,121 --> 00:32:15,641
as part of a team
known as Insight.
581
00:32:15,641 --> 00:32:18,041
-Leave this page.
-ELAINE POTTER: Harry understood
582
00:32:18,041 --> 00:32:21,641
the importance
of teams of journalists
583
00:32:21,641 --> 00:32:24,241
whirring away
at really difficult
584
00:32:24,241 --> 00:32:26,600
long-term projects.
585
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,760
News. That is opinion.
586
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,800
It-it would have been
very difficult to create,
587
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,200
I find it hard to imagine,
with any other editor,
588
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,200
though others have tried,
not totally successfully.
589
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,720
(typewriter clacking)
590
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,800
NARRATOR: In only
his second month as editor,
591
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,240
Evans set his
newly-formed Insight team
592
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,600
on an investigation
that took eight months
593
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,720
and was bitterly resisted.
594
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,400
In 1951, British intelligence
595
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,160
got alarmed
about how the Soviets
596
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,320
seemed to be one step ahead
on British cooperation
597
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,200
with the Americans
over nuclear weapons.
598
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Two diplomats in Washington,
599
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,360
Guy Burgess and Donald Maclean,
fled to Moscow
600
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,400
before they
could be questioned.
601
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,040
Who tipped them off?
602
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,920
Might Kim Philby
be the third man?
603
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,880
Well, if there was a third man,
were you in fact the third man?
604
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,040
No, I was not.
605
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,840
KNIGHTLEY:
The Sunday Times
606
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,600
took up the case
because somebody had
607
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,519
told the editor, Harold Evans,
608
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,319
that, uh, Philby--
the Philby case--
609
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:36,199
was far more important
than anyone ever suspected.
610
00:33:36,199 --> 00:33:39,479
I mean, he must go down in
history as the most remarkable,
611
00:33:39,479 --> 00:33:41,959
uh, penetration agent in
the whole history of espionage.
612
00:33:41,959 --> 00:33:43,799
He was well on the way
to becoming
613
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:45,279
head of British intelligence.
614
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:47,399
My chairman, Denis Hamilton,
rang me up and said,
615
00:33:47,399 --> 00:33:50,039
"You'd better be in
the House of Commons tomorrow
616
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:51,719
"because the Foreign Secretary
617
00:33:51,719 --> 00:33:55,159
is going to denounce you
as a traitor."
618
00:33:55,159 --> 00:33:58,079
All I will say is
we've published nothing
619
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:01,159
which is not already known
to the Russians.
620
00:34:01,159 --> 00:34:03,919
KNIGHTLEY:
The government was intent on us
621
00:34:03,919 --> 00:34:08,079
not telling the story because
it was such a terrible mess.
622
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:11,239
It was run by, uh, incompetence
623
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,079
and, uh, o... the...
624
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,039
from the old boy network.
625
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:18,559
And I remember once, the...
the head of the service came,
626
00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:20,279
when I was prime minister,
into my room,
627
00:34:20,279 --> 00:34:22,159
rubbing his... he said,
"I've got that chap.
628
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:24,199
I've got him. I've been
after him for 18 months."
629
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:26,559
And I looked very gloomy,
and he said,
630
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:27,799
"Aren't you pleased,
Prime Minister?"
631
00:34:27,799 --> 00:34:29,719
I said,
"I'm not at all pleased."
632
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,558
He said,
"We've been wonderful.
633
00:34:31,558 --> 00:34:34,678
Our chaps knew he was
a wrong'un and we got him."
634
00:34:34,678 --> 00:34:37,118
"Yes", I said, "But when
the keeper shoots a fox here,
635
00:34:37,118 --> 00:34:39,798
he doesn't hang it up outside
the master of foxhounds' house."
636
00:34:39,798 --> 00:34:42,118
"What are we going to have now?"
"We'll have an inquiry.
637
00:34:42,118 --> 00:34:44,678
"You'll be told your service
is rotten from top to bottom.
638
00:34:44,678 --> 00:34:46,478
"You should have
Lord Radcliffe as a commission.
639
00:34:46,478 --> 00:34:48,678
"We have a debate
in the House of Commons,
640
00:34:48,678 --> 00:34:51,478
and the government
will probably fall."
641
00:34:51,478 --> 00:34:53,038
"Well, see."
642
00:34:53,038 --> 00:34:54,318
Oh, you don't do those things.
643
00:34:54,318 --> 00:34:56,238
You put them quietly away.
644
00:35:00,398 --> 00:35:03,438
RALPH NADER: Harry Evans was,
uh, editor for The Sunday Times
645
00:35:03,438 --> 00:35:06,238
in a country that had
an Official Secrets Act.
646
00:35:06,238 --> 00:35:07,838
It was just the opposite, uh,
647
00:35:07,838 --> 00:35:09,598
of our freedom
of information laws.
648
00:35:09,598 --> 00:35:13,518
That is the, uh,
the, uh, presumption
649
00:35:13,518 --> 00:35:17,318
was secrecy, uh, in,
uh, in the U.K.
650
00:35:17,318 --> 00:35:20,638
In-Instead of the presumption
being openness,
651
00:35:20,638 --> 00:35:23,598
and then the government had to
explain why some information
652
00:35:23,598 --> 00:35:25,718
was kept secret.
So he was up against
653
00:35:25,718 --> 00:35:29,078
a very hostile atmosphere,
which would have exposed him
654
00:35:29,078 --> 00:35:31,997
and his reporters to,
literally, to prosecution.
655
00:35:42,357 --> 00:35:44,557
(typewriters clacking)
656
00:35:46,677 --> 00:35:49,797
EVANS: I had a very good staff
at The Northern Echo.
657
00:35:49,797 --> 00:35:51,957
But nothing can compare
the staff of people
658
00:35:51,957 --> 00:35:55,317
I had at The Sunday Times,
who were not only more numerous,
659
00:35:55,317 --> 00:35:57,757
you know,
more experienced and...
660
00:35:57,757 --> 00:36:02,077
So I said, "Let's keep an eye
on the thalidomide children."
661
00:36:02,077 --> 00:36:04,237
(film projector rattling)
662
00:36:05,837 --> 00:36:07,517
NARRATOR:
Although it had been reported
663
00:36:07,517 --> 00:36:10,197
that an agreement by Distillers
and the 62 families
664
00:36:10,197 --> 00:36:12,597
who'd sued in time
had been agreed,
665
00:36:12,597 --> 00:36:14,757
the press were not allowed
to report anything
666
00:36:14,757 --> 00:36:16,557
regarding
the financial settlement
667
00:36:16,557 --> 00:36:19,157
whilst the two unequal sides
were in negotiations
668
00:36:19,157 --> 00:36:22,877
about what that level
of compensation would be.
669
00:36:22,877 --> 00:36:25,597
EVANS:
And it was finally agreed
670
00:36:25,597 --> 00:36:29,197
by Distillers
that if the parents withdrew
671
00:36:29,197 --> 00:36:31,597
the charge of negligence,
672
00:36:31,597 --> 00:36:35,436
they would make
a settlement of 40%
673
00:36:35,436 --> 00:36:37,996
of what a full settlement
would be.
674
00:36:37,996 --> 00:36:41,116
So they'd go before a judge--
675
00:36:41,116 --> 00:36:43,316
this story keeps
getting worse and worse--
676
00:36:43,316 --> 00:36:45,396
so they'd go
before a judge to decide
677
00:36:45,396 --> 00:36:48,996
what would be 100% settlement,
678
00:36:48,996 --> 00:36:52,876
and knowing that they're only
going to get 40% of it.
679
00:36:52,876 --> 00:36:55,836
Utterly and totally
miserably inadequate.
680
00:36:57,756 --> 00:37:01,596
NARRATOR: He thought he had
no opportunity to help,
681
00:37:01,596 --> 00:37:05,756
until The Sunday Times was
contacted by a whistle-blower,
682
00:37:05,756 --> 00:37:09,556
who gave them 10,000
internal Distillers documents.
683
00:37:09,556 --> 00:37:13,476
EVANS:
What the documents revealed was
684
00:37:13,476 --> 00:37:16,796
a unscrupulous
marketing campaign
685
00:37:16,796 --> 00:37:18,836
to market this drug.
686
00:37:18,836 --> 00:37:21,236
What they did not reveal...
687
00:37:23,196 --> 00:37:25,596
...was how the disaster
had occurred.
688
00:37:25,596 --> 00:37:28,316
NARRATOR: They'd been
warned of its danger
689
00:37:28,316 --> 00:37:30,956
five months before
it was eventually withdrawn.
690
00:37:30,956 --> 00:37:34,396
Those five months
were the period in which
691
00:37:34,396 --> 00:37:38,155
the majority
of victims were conceived.
692
00:37:38,155 --> 00:37:41,235
These documents definitely
could not be published,
693
00:37:41,235 --> 00:37:44,515
as they bore directly on a case
before the courts.
694
00:37:44,515 --> 00:37:46,235
But a second set
695
00:37:46,235 --> 00:37:49,835
that came The Sunday Times' way
had more potential.
696
00:37:49,835 --> 00:37:54,035
EVANS: So we now have
The Sunday Times room packed
697
00:37:54,035 --> 00:37:55,635
with filing cabinets
698
00:37:55,635 --> 00:37:57,595
with documents in German
being translated.
699
00:37:57,595 --> 00:37:59,995
NARRATOR:
The second set were internal
700
00:37:59,995 --> 00:38:02,675
Chemie Grunenthal documents
related to a case being brought
701
00:38:02,675 --> 00:38:05,075
against them
in the German courts,
702
00:38:05,075 --> 00:38:09,315
in a size of trial
not seen since Nuremberg.
703
00:38:10,795 --> 00:38:13,795
These documents catalogued
a get-rich-quick mentality
704
00:38:13,795 --> 00:38:15,755
in which the safety of the drug
705
00:38:15,755 --> 00:38:19,155
had been the main
selling point.
706
00:38:19,155 --> 00:38:23,475
Contergan was given
to 370 test subjects,
707
00:38:23,475 --> 00:38:27,195
of whom 160
were nursing mothers.
708
00:38:29,515 --> 00:38:32,635
The report based
on these trials stated that
709
00:38:32,635 --> 00:38:36,715
side effects were not observed
either with mothers or babies.
710
00:38:38,114 --> 00:38:40,994
It cunningly implied that
the babies were in the womb
711
00:38:40,994 --> 00:38:43,274
when the mothers took the drug.
712
00:38:43,274 --> 00:38:45,234
This was not true.
713
00:38:45,234 --> 00:38:48,554
EVANS: That raised
the first crisis for us.
714
00:38:48,554 --> 00:38:51,714
Could we publish the story
715
00:38:51,714 --> 00:38:55,634
of how the German company
marketed a drug
716
00:38:55,634 --> 00:38:57,354
without proper testing?
717
00:38:57,354 --> 00:39:00,994
Because did that bear
on the British case,
718
00:39:00,994 --> 00:39:04,074
and if we published
the German story,
719
00:39:04,074 --> 00:39:05,594
would it be contempt of court?
720
00:39:05,594 --> 00:39:08,634
NARRATOR: The lawyers pored
over every word,
721
00:39:08,634 --> 00:39:11,634
bearing in mind that a breach
of the contempt laws
722
00:39:11,634 --> 00:39:14,074
might see Harry wind up
in jail.
723
00:39:14,074 --> 00:39:18,114
EVANS: So we did get ready
to publish the German case,
724
00:39:18,114 --> 00:39:23,474
and Godfrey Hodgson produced
a fantastic scary article
725
00:39:23,474 --> 00:39:27,274
that I put on the front page of
the Review Section-- five pages
726
00:39:27,274 --> 00:39:30,674
with a picture of
one of the German doctors
727
00:39:30,674 --> 00:39:33,394
who'd been involved
with the Nazis.
728
00:39:33,394 --> 00:39:37,234
And I sat back
in a defensive crouch...
729
00:39:38,954 --> 00:39:40,873
...pretty sure
we were going to get
730
00:39:40,873 --> 00:39:43,313
a contempt of court citation.
731
00:39:46,073 --> 00:39:47,993
NARRATOR:
For the first time,
732
00:39:47,993 --> 00:39:50,993
thalidomide was shown
to be a corporate disaster,
733
00:39:50,993 --> 00:39:53,593
rather than an act of God.
734
00:39:53,593 --> 00:39:55,833
But to Harry's frustration,
735
00:39:55,833 --> 00:39:59,593
the families' lawyers remained
overawed by their opponents.
736
00:39:59,593 --> 00:40:01,553
Mindful that
Distillers threatened
737
00:40:01,553 --> 00:40:04,033
that they were quite prepared
for the case to go to court
738
00:40:04,033 --> 00:40:06,073
because they were confident
of victory,
739
00:40:06,073 --> 00:40:08,393
the families' lawyers
weren't emboldened
740
00:40:08,393 --> 00:40:10,233
by The Sunday Times article,
741
00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:13,313
but settled on a fraction
of what their clients needed.
742
00:40:15,033 --> 00:40:19,953
And the judge-- a nice old man
without a single clue--
743
00:40:19,953 --> 00:40:24,273
sets a level of compensation
which is ridiculously low.
744
00:40:25,953 --> 00:40:27,713
NARRATOR:
Press reaction wasn't
745
00:40:27,713 --> 00:40:30,073
what Harry had expected,
either.
746
00:40:30,073 --> 00:40:32,753
EVANS:
The press headlined that
747
00:40:32,753 --> 00:40:35,993
as though
the families had won the pools.
748
00:40:35,993 --> 00:40:40,313
Lottery prizes,
as though they'd won millions.
749
00:40:40,313 --> 00:40:43,272
NARRATOR:
Outraged by the inadequacy
750
00:40:43,272 --> 00:40:45,512
of the amount of money offered
by Distillers,
751
00:40:45,512 --> 00:40:47,872
he decided
to skirt around the law,
752
00:40:47,872 --> 00:40:50,672
and avoiding the subject
of the company's negligence,
753
00:40:50,672 --> 00:40:53,992
published comment
on the compensation.
754
00:40:53,992 --> 00:40:56,352
But even that was risky.
755
00:40:56,352 --> 00:41:01,592
I remember writing the headline,
"What price a pound of flesh?"
756
00:41:01,592 --> 00:41:03,432
arguing that the levels
were not enough.
757
00:41:03,432 --> 00:41:06,952
And the lawyer said,
"I think that's contempt."
758
00:41:06,952 --> 00:41:08,552
Our own lawyer.
759
00:41:08,552 --> 00:41:10,912
I said, "Well, so be it.
To hell with it." (chuckles)
760
00:41:10,912 --> 00:41:14,112
So we took the chance
and published that article.
761
00:41:14,112 --> 00:41:16,512
That was 1969.
762
00:41:16,512 --> 00:41:18,712
The consequence
of that settlement
763
00:41:18,712 --> 00:41:23,552
in 1969 was to suddenly alert
764
00:41:23,552 --> 00:41:26,032
the huge number of other
families who hadn't realized
765
00:41:26,032 --> 00:41:28,752
that their children were
thalidomide victims.
766
00:41:28,752 --> 00:41:30,872
They just thought
they were unlucky,
767
00:41:30,872 --> 00:41:33,952
and they didn't know there was
a prospect of a settlement.
768
00:41:33,952 --> 00:41:37,712
By the end of
a couple of months,
769
00:41:37,712 --> 00:41:42,232
369 families had joined the few
from the beginning,
770
00:41:42,232 --> 00:41:45,191
so we now had
close to 500 families.
771
00:41:45,191 --> 00:41:49,631
The 369 were too late to sue,
772
00:41:49,631 --> 00:41:51,391
but the courts agreed
773
00:41:51,391 --> 00:41:55,551
that even though they were
out of time, they could sue.
774
00:41:55,551 --> 00:41:59,271
So one day, I got a letter
through the post,
775
00:41:59,271 --> 00:42:02,471
uh, saying that there was
to be a meeting
776
00:42:02,471 --> 00:42:06,111
of all the thalidomide,
uh, parents.
777
00:42:06,111 --> 00:42:08,671
So we duly went to the meeting,
778
00:42:08,671 --> 00:42:10,711
and when we got there,
of course, there were--
779
00:42:10,711 --> 00:42:14,591
I don't know-- 600, 700 people,
something like that.
780
00:42:14,591 --> 00:42:17,511
NARRATOR: The lawyers spelled
out the terms of the offer.
781
00:42:17,511 --> 00:42:19,911
It was even less generous
than the award given
782
00:42:19,911 --> 00:42:22,791
to the original 62
who'd settled.
783
00:42:22,791 --> 00:42:25,191
And they put pressure
on the families to accept
784
00:42:25,191 --> 00:42:28,511
by saying that if it wasn't
agreed to by all the parents,
785
00:42:28,511 --> 00:42:30,231
no one would get anything.
786
00:42:30,231 --> 00:42:33,231
MASON: He drew this thing out,
and, of course, there were
787
00:42:33,231 --> 00:42:35,231
occasional rounds of applause
from the parents,
788
00:42:35,231 --> 00:42:36,711
because, let's face it,
789
00:42:36,711 --> 00:42:38,711
nobody thought they were ever
going to get anything.
790
00:42:38,711 --> 00:42:40,431
And he said the mean figure
791
00:42:40,431 --> 00:42:44,271
of what it amounts to
is three million pounds.
792
00:42:44,271 --> 00:42:47,070
So I thought,
"Three million pounds?
793
00:42:47,070 --> 00:42:49,190
For 400 victims?"
794
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:52,150
So I worked it out quickly,
and I-I came to the conclusion
795
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:56,190
that would mean with Louise,
8,000 pounds,
796
00:42:56,190 --> 00:42:59,150
or putting it crudely,
797
00:42:59,150 --> 00:43:02,510
2,000 pounds
per arm and per leg.
798
00:43:02,510 --> 00:43:04,230
The outcome
of the meeting was mixed.
799
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:05,790
We had, on one hand...
800
00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:07,550
NARRATOR:
Financially, David Mason was
801
00:43:07,550 --> 00:43:09,590
in the fortunate position
that he could afford
802
00:43:09,590 --> 00:43:11,230
to reject the offer,
803
00:43:11,230 --> 00:43:13,950
but many of the parents were
in a desperate plight.
804
00:43:13,950 --> 00:43:16,990
Distillers applied
enormous emotional pressure,
805
00:43:16,990 --> 00:43:19,830
but Mason and a few others
remained firm.
806
00:43:19,830 --> 00:43:21,190
...where I want
the small print to be...
807
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:22,750
EVANS:
There were five parents,
808
00:43:22,750 --> 00:43:26,670
one of them famous--
David Mason, an art dealer--
809
00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:29,110
and others who said,
"I'm not going to accept that.
810
00:43:29,110 --> 00:43:30,750
"I'm not going to accept
this compensation
811
00:43:30,750 --> 00:43:33,950
for my daughter Louise, which is
inadequate. Why should I?"
812
00:43:33,950 --> 00:43:35,710
And Distillers answer was,
813
00:43:35,710 --> 00:43:38,590
"You're sacrificing
everybody else's compensation."
814
00:43:38,590 --> 00:43:40,070
MAN: You parents are happy
with the settlement
815
00:43:40,070 --> 00:43:41,710
-that's been discussed?
-(murmurs of agreement)
816
00:43:41,710 --> 00:43:43,550
We settle with the settlement.
We'll settle with that.
817
00:43:43,550 --> 00:43:45,350
Uh, I received
threatening letters.
818
00:43:45,350 --> 00:43:46,870
I received
threatening phone calls.
819
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:49,269
I was referred to
by certain other parents
820
00:43:49,269 --> 00:43:50,389
as being unchristian.
821
00:43:50,389 --> 00:43:51,949
Mr. Mason does claim, in fact,
822
00:43:51,949 --> 00:43:53,749
that he represents most
of the thalidomide parents.
823
00:43:53,749 --> 00:43:56,749
He does not claim, and it was
proved in there just now!
824
00:43:56,749 --> 00:43:59,869
He might have claimed...
be the spokesman for a few,
825
00:43:59,869 --> 00:44:02,669
but for the vast majority
of parents,
826
00:44:02,669 --> 00:44:05,069
he doesn't represent them
at all.
827
00:44:09,989 --> 00:44:11,549
NARRATOR:
Mason had been advised
828
00:44:11,549 --> 00:44:13,789
that a figure
of 20 million pounds,
829
00:44:13,789 --> 00:44:16,549
nearly seven times the amount
offered by Distillers,
830
00:44:16,549 --> 00:44:18,189
was the minimum required
831
00:44:18,189 --> 00:44:21,109
for the long-term care
of the children.
832
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:25,309
But many of the other parents
could not afford to hold out.
833
00:44:26,829 --> 00:44:30,669
GALVIN:
It just went from bad to worse.
834
00:44:30,669 --> 00:44:34,629
He had no wheelchair,
he had no helmet, he had ab...
835
00:44:34,629 --> 00:44:36,549
and I'll say, nothing.
836
00:44:36,549 --> 00:44:40,189
I took lettuce from
the peel bucket, and tomatoes,
837
00:44:40,189 --> 00:44:41,749
and washed them
and brought them home,
838
00:44:41,749 --> 00:44:43,869
and they lived on that
for the weekend.
839
00:44:46,989 --> 00:44:49,628
DONNELLY: My parents were just
typical working class parents.
840
00:44:49,628 --> 00:44:53,148
Me dad works on the tugs,
on the River Mersey,
841
00:44:53,148 --> 00:44:56,228
and me mother was a housewife
bringing up six kids,
842
00:44:56,228 --> 00:44:59,588
so they had no idea about
class actions or lawyers, or,
843
00:44:59,588 --> 00:45:01,908
you know,
suing people in court.
844
00:45:01,908 --> 00:45:03,828
It must have been
a massive struggle
845
00:45:03,828 --> 00:45:05,868
for them really, you know.
846
00:45:05,868 --> 00:45:07,308
They had the burden
847
00:45:07,308 --> 00:45:09,348
of taking on
the court cases and everything,
848
00:45:09,348 --> 00:45:12,908
and I just got on
with me childhood.
849
00:45:20,628 --> 00:45:22,948
NARRATOR: Distillers identified
David Mason
850
00:45:22,948 --> 00:45:25,548
as the ringleader
of the small group standing out
851
00:45:25,548 --> 00:45:29,348
against a deal being struck,
and they increased the pressure
852
00:45:29,348 --> 00:45:31,828
by threatening
to withdraw their offer.
853
00:45:31,828 --> 00:45:35,028
Divide and rule seemed
to be the order of the day.
854
00:45:35,028 --> 00:45:37,028
MASON:
And the next dreadful thing
855
00:45:37,028 --> 00:45:39,588
that, uh, happened
was that, uh,
856
00:45:39,588 --> 00:45:42,268
I received a writ
through the post.
857
00:45:42,268 --> 00:45:43,868
Distillers took me
into the court
858
00:45:43,868 --> 00:45:46,028
and tried
to take my daughter away from me
859
00:45:46,028 --> 00:45:48,348
and have her made
a ward of court
860
00:45:48,348 --> 00:45:50,308
on the grounds
that by refusing this offer,
861
00:45:50,308 --> 00:45:52,307
I was acting
against her best interests.
862
00:45:52,307 --> 00:45:54,067
Therefore, if they made her
a ward of court,
863
00:45:54,067 --> 00:45:56,227
the official solicitor
would act for her.
864
00:45:56,227 --> 00:45:58,467
The official solicitor
would sign off on Louise,
865
00:45:58,467 --> 00:46:00,027
and everybody would get
their money.
866
00:46:00,027 --> 00:46:03,187
NARRATOR: Mason lost custody
of his daughter,
867
00:46:03,187 --> 00:46:07,147
but he appealed, and a date
was set for the court case.
868
00:46:07,147 --> 00:46:10,427
Along with their own action,
Distillers financed
869
00:46:10,427 --> 00:46:13,467
the legal teams of some of the
parents who wanted to settle.
870
00:46:13,467 --> 00:46:15,787
The crux
of their argument being
871
00:46:15,787 --> 00:46:17,907
that no successful claims
had been made
872
00:46:17,907 --> 00:46:19,547
anywhere in the world,
873
00:46:19,547 --> 00:46:22,547
and that Mason
was acting unreasonably.
874
00:46:22,547 --> 00:46:27,307
Their method of defense
was to launch an attack.
875
00:46:27,307 --> 00:46:30,747
Justice Hinchcliffe
removed Mason's...
876
00:46:30,747 --> 00:46:33,347
removed the parental rights
of Mason and the others.
877
00:46:33,347 --> 00:46:35,467
(chuckles):
His-his...
878
00:46:35,467 --> 00:46:39,707
His children were now consigned
to the treasury solicitor.
879
00:46:39,707 --> 00:46:40,987
It's like...
880
00:46:40,987 --> 00:46:42,907
Bleak House is not in it.
881
00:46:45,627 --> 00:46:47,467
NARRATOR:
Through a mutual friend,
882
00:46:47,467 --> 00:46:49,947
David Mason was introduced
to the Daily Mail's editor,
883
00:46:49,947 --> 00:46:52,506
David English, who,
moved by the story,
884
00:46:52,506 --> 00:46:56,146
agreed to publish a series of
articles on Mason's struggle.
885
00:46:56,146 --> 00:46:58,906
Hello. Yes. David Mason.
886
00:47:02,866 --> 00:47:05,306
NARRATOR: But he warned
that if he proceeded,
887
00:47:05,306 --> 00:47:07,466
the Distillers deal
may be withdrawn,
888
00:47:07,466 --> 00:47:10,226
and the other parents
would be out for his blood.
889
00:47:10,226 --> 00:47:13,506
MASON:
Out came the first edition
890
00:47:13,506 --> 00:47:16,266
of the Daily Mail-- wham!--
891
00:47:16,266 --> 00:47:18,626
where they ran, for four days,
double page spread,
892
00:47:18,626 --> 00:47:20,786
spelling out exactly
what had gone on,
893
00:47:20,786 --> 00:47:22,986
and all hell was let loose.
894
00:47:25,666 --> 00:47:27,706
And the attorney general's
running around,
895
00:47:27,706 --> 00:47:29,386
injunctions were being sought,
896
00:47:29,386 --> 00:47:34,146
God knows what, and eventually
an injunction was obtained.
897
00:47:36,026 --> 00:47:39,106
EVANS: Nobody would talk
to David Mason after that.
898
00:47:39,106 --> 00:47:40,706
The Daily Mail
899
00:47:40,706 --> 00:47:43,586
was told by the attorney general
it was liable
900
00:47:43,586 --> 00:47:47,946
for a contempt prosecution,
and it dropped it.
901
00:47:50,706 --> 00:47:52,706
NARRATOR:
As the appeal date loomed,
902
00:47:52,706 --> 00:47:55,025
Mason was contacted
by an American lawyer
903
00:47:55,025 --> 00:47:57,865
who had read one of
the Daily Mail articles.
904
00:47:57,865 --> 00:48:00,545
Distillers had argued
that no one had ever won a case
905
00:48:00,545 --> 00:48:03,145
for compensation against
the makers of thalidomide,
906
00:48:03,145 --> 00:48:05,385
and therefore,
Mason was acting unreasonably,
907
00:48:05,385 --> 00:48:08,825
like a barrack room lawyer,
in pursuing his claim.
908
00:48:08,825 --> 00:48:12,385
But the American had won
just such a case in the U.S.
909
00:48:12,385 --> 00:48:15,505
With only the weekend before
he was due back in court,
910
00:48:15,505 --> 00:48:17,185
Mason flew to America,
911
00:48:17,185 --> 00:48:19,985
where he was given copies
of the court papers.
912
00:48:24,785 --> 00:48:26,305
He arrived back in the U.K.
913
00:48:26,305 --> 00:48:28,545
on the morning
his appeal was to be heard,
914
00:48:28,545 --> 00:48:31,985
and got the papers in front
of the judge, Lord Denning.
915
00:48:31,985 --> 00:48:34,705
(tires squeal)
916
00:48:34,705 --> 00:48:36,265
MASON:
Denning came in,
917
00:48:36,265 --> 00:48:39,545
put his papers on the table,
bad-tempered way,
918
00:48:39,545 --> 00:48:41,825
and sat down and said,
"Now, then."
919
00:48:41,825 --> 00:48:43,785
He said,
"I'd like all the people
920
00:48:43,785 --> 00:48:45,825
representing the other parents,"
921
00:48:45,825 --> 00:48:47,905
he said,
"and Distillers to stand up."
922
00:48:47,905 --> 00:48:51,305
He said, "Do you recall having
told me, having told this court,
923
00:48:51,305 --> 00:48:54,385
"that no case had ever taken
place anywhere in the world
924
00:48:54,385 --> 00:48:56,264
with a successful outcome?"
925
00:48:56,264 --> 00:48:58,024
"Uh, yes."
926
00:48:58,024 --> 00:49:00,504
He said, "Well,"
he said, "I have to tell you,
927
00:49:00,504 --> 00:49:01,744
"I have the court record that...
928
00:49:01,744 --> 00:49:03,704
"that Mr. Mason found
over the weekend.
929
00:49:03,704 --> 00:49:05,544
What have you got to say
about that?" "We didn't..."
930
00:49:05,544 --> 00:49:07,544
"You didn't? You didn't what?
You didn't know about it?
931
00:49:07,544 --> 00:49:09,104
You didn't...
you didn't know about it?"
932
00:49:09,104 --> 00:49:11,064
He said,
"Well, for a barrack room lawyer
933
00:49:11,064 --> 00:49:14,384
and a man of perverse views,"
he said,
934
00:49:14,384 --> 00:49:16,224
"Mr. Mason hasn't done bad,
has he?"
935
00:49:16,224 --> 00:49:18,224
So there was sort of silence.
936
00:49:18,224 --> 00:49:20,104
He said,
"I'm adjourning the court."
937
00:49:20,104 --> 00:49:22,864
Bottom line: I won her back.
938
00:49:22,864 --> 00:49:24,504
I won her back.
939
00:49:28,664 --> 00:49:32,024
NARRATOR: Although David Mason
had won a person victory,
940
00:49:32,024 --> 00:49:34,424
the press were still muzzled
on the wider issues
941
00:49:34,424 --> 00:49:36,384
regarding the compensation.
942
00:49:36,384 --> 00:49:38,584
In the end,
he refused to waste his time
943
00:49:38,584 --> 00:49:40,824
giving interviews
that never appeared,
944
00:49:40,824 --> 00:49:44,144
spiked by newspapers' lawyers
citing contempt of court.
945
00:49:46,504 --> 00:49:48,624
The thalidomide children
receded back
946
00:49:48,624 --> 00:49:50,984
into the vacuum of silence,
947
00:49:50,984 --> 00:49:54,104
exactly where
Distillers wanted them.
948
00:50:04,583 --> 00:50:06,343
Anthony,
949
00:50:06,343 --> 00:50:09,023
I've got a letter
from the chairman of Distillers.
950
00:50:09,023 --> 00:50:10,503
I'll read it to you.
951
00:50:10,503 --> 00:50:12,143
"Thank you for your letter
of 23 June..."
952
00:50:12,143 --> 00:50:14,543
EVANS:
From time to time, you become
953
00:50:14,543 --> 00:50:17,063
absolutely convinced you're
going to achieve something.
954
00:50:17,063 --> 00:50:18,743
I didn't...
955
00:50:18,743 --> 00:50:21,463
always expect that, but
in the thalidomide case, I did,
956
00:50:21,463 --> 00:50:26,303
'cause it seemed to me it was
so transparently an injustice.
957
00:50:26,303 --> 00:50:29,023
Phil Knightley stayed
on the story,
958
00:50:29,023 --> 00:50:31,743
keeping in touch
with the parents.
959
00:50:31,743 --> 00:50:33,383
And that moment when he came
960
00:50:33,383 --> 00:50:35,023
into my office and said,
961
00:50:35,023 --> 00:50:38,263
"They're being offered half
of what they are entitled to
962
00:50:38,263 --> 00:50:40,383
by comparison
with the earlier judgment,"
963
00:50:40,383 --> 00:50:44,703
that was when I decided
to start the campaign.
964
00:50:44,703 --> 00:50:46,503
Harry Evans said,
965
00:50:46,503 --> 00:50:49,023
"If necessary, I'll run a story
about thalidomide
966
00:50:49,023 --> 00:50:52,103
for the next ten years to get
justice for these children."
967
00:50:52,103 --> 00:50:55,703
I know that sounds like a-a film
script, but that's what he said.
968
00:50:55,703 --> 00:50:58,463
NARRATOR:
Harry decided it was time
969
00:50:58,463 --> 00:51:02,062
to contact the most prominent
thalidomide parent.
970
00:51:02,062 --> 00:51:04,182
He had an idea
of the next step.
971
00:51:04,182 --> 00:51:06,782
So he sent Phillip Knightley
to see him.
972
00:51:06,782 --> 00:51:08,302
MASON:
He said,
973
00:51:08,302 --> 00:51:10,382
"I want you to come down
to The Sunday Times,"
974
00:51:10,382 --> 00:51:13,222
he said,
"and, uh, meet Harold Evans
975
00:51:13,222 --> 00:51:15,102
and meet some of the board."
976
00:51:15,102 --> 00:51:17,702
And he said,
"I'm on the Insight team."
977
00:51:17,702 --> 00:51:20,062
He said,
"And we think we have a way
978
00:51:20,062 --> 00:51:22,582
of freeing you up
and helping you."
979
00:51:22,582 --> 00:51:25,462
James Evans,
no relation of Harry Evans
980
00:51:25,462 --> 00:51:28,102
but as their lawyer,
had found a way through.
981
00:51:28,102 --> 00:51:29,942
JAMES EVANS:
Our argument throughout was
982
00:51:29,942 --> 00:51:32,862
contempt is about prejudicing
the legal issues in a case.
983
00:51:32,862 --> 00:51:34,542
If you steer clear of those
984
00:51:34,542 --> 00:51:36,662
but advance the moral arguments,
985
00:51:36,662 --> 00:51:38,942
then you should be allowed
to do this.
986
00:51:38,942 --> 00:51:40,862
Now, there was no decision
on-on this,
987
00:51:40,862 --> 00:51:44,302
and, uh, we just had to take
a bit of a chance on it.
988
00:51:44,302 --> 00:51:49,422
And this provided us with the
opportunity to-to write about...
989
00:51:49,422 --> 00:51:51,462
to write about thalidomide
on a...
990
00:51:51,462 --> 00:51:53,622
from a moral point of view
991
00:51:53,622 --> 00:51:56,782
rather than from
the negligence point of view.
992
00:51:56,782 --> 00:51:58,542
I mean, it should be
quite a short hearing.
993
00:51:58,542 --> 00:52:01,981
HAROLD EVANS: James Evans saw it
as his job not to stop us
994
00:52:01,981 --> 00:52:05,141
publishing things which were
in the public interest,
995
00:52:05,141 --> 00:52:06,741
but to justify them
996
00:52:06,741 --> 00:52:09,541
once we were satisfied
it was in the public interest
997
00:52:09,541 --> 00:52:12,181
and to find
the justification in law
998
00:52:12,181 --> 00:52:14,221
for getting round
999
00:52:14,221 --> 00:52:18,781
the most restrictive press laws
in Western democracy.
1000
00:52:18,781 --> 00:52:21,501
He was so calm.
1001
00:52:21,501 --> 00:52:24,021
He said, "I get the picture."
1002
00:52:24,021 --> 00:52:28,621
Tourist says, "Find me
a safe way up the Eiger."
1003
00:52:28,621 --> 00:52:31,221
One wanted to be sure
that one took the editor
1004
00:52:31,221 --> 00:52:33,981
up this sort of, as it were,
north face of the Eiger
1005
00:52:33,981 --> 00:52:35,781
by the safest possible route.
1006
00:52:35,781 --> 00:52:39,621
Uh, but, of course, uh,
the editor carries the can here.
1007
00:52:39,621 --> 00:52:43,101
NARRATOR: Harry and James spent
late nights making sure
1008
00:52:43,101 --> 00:52:44,621
they'd covered every base,
1009
00:52:44,621 --> 00:52:46,461
because this was
a very big risk
1010
00:52:46,461 --> 00:52:49,021
for both the paper
and its editor.
1011
00:52:49,021 --> 00:52:51,141
HAROLD EVANS:
I asked him to draft
1012
00:52:51,141 --> 00:52:52,541
an editorial.
1013
00:52:52,541 --> 00:52:54,181
Well, he's a top lawyer,
1014
00:52:54,181 --> 00:52:56,781
and he drafted an editorial
which I made very little...
1015
00:52:56,781 --> 00:52:58,341
few changes.
1016
00:52:58,341 --> 00:53:01,221
And I wrote the headline
"Children on our conscience"
1017
00:53:01,221 --> 00:53:04,460
and launched the moral campaign.
1018
00:53:04,460 --> 00:53:06,740
♪ ♪
1019
00:53:17,780 --> 00:53:20,540
(speaking indistinctly)
1020
00:53:20,540 --> 00:53:22,260
And probably
the most striking thing
1021
00:53:22,260 --> 00:53:24,460
is to get the actual inventor
of thalidomide...
1022
00:53:29,940 --> 00:53:32,740
NARRATOR: As the Insight team
compiled the first article,
1023
00:53:32,740 --> 00:53:35,900
Harry prepared to contact
the great and the powerful
1024
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:39,260
in order to enlist support
for the campaign.
1025
00:53:39,260 --> 00:53:42,380
He broke the news to Joan.
1026
00:53:42,380 --> 00:53:44,780
So he said, "Joan,
we're gonna have to write to
1027
00:53:44,780 --> 00:53:48,660
every single MP
a separate letter."
1028
00:53:48,660 --> 00:53:51,860
He didn't want photocopies
being sent to all the MPs,
1029
00:53:51,860 --> 00:53:56,660
so I just set about typing 620
1030
00:53:56,660 --> 00:53:58,700
or 630 letters.
1031
00:53:58,700 --> 00:54:00,180
He-he hammered the point,
really,
1032
00:54:00,180 --> 00:54:03,740
that it was such an injustice
to the children.
1033
00:54:10,219 --> 00:54:11,619
EVANS:
The phone rang.
1034
00:54:11,619 --> 00:54:14,659
It was
the advertising director.
1035
00:54:14,659 --> 00:54:16,539
"I believe you're gonna go ahead
1036
00:54:16,539 --> 00:54:19,499
"with, uh, this strong attack
on Distillers.
1037
00:54:19,499 --> 00:54:23,619
"I want you to know
that they spend 60,000 pounds
1038
00:54:23,619 --> 00:54:27,179
with advertising
with The Sunday Times."
1039
00:54:27,179 --> 00:54:29,859
He-he broke new ground
in terms of focusing
1040
00:54:29,859 --> 00:54:33,779
on the very corporations
whose advertisements funded
1041
00:54:33,779 --> 00:54:36,179
the newspaper's profit.
1042
00:54:36,179 --> 00:54:38,579
He said,
"It won't stop you, I know.
1043
00:54:38,579 --> 00:54:40,379
And it shouldn't."
1044
00:54:40,379 --> 00:54:42,499
(machine whirring)
1045
00:54:46,899 --> 00:54:51,019
I brought David Mason into
the office to see the presses
1046
00:54:51,019 --> 00:54:53,979
going round with the story,
1047
00:54:53,979 --> 00:54:57,299
which he couldn't believe
would ever happen.
1048
00:54:58,059 --> 00:54:59,819
MASON:
And he said,
1049
00:54:59,819 --> 00:55:02,019
"I want to show you
the power of the press."
1050
00:55:02,019 --> 00:55:05,739
And we went downstairs,
and, uh,
1051
00:55:05,739 --> 00:55:08,218
there was silence in the room.
1052
00:55:10,058 --> 00:55:12,658
And he said, "See that button?
1053
00:55:12,658 --> 00:55:14,858
Push it."
1054
00:55:16,578 --> 00:55:20,578
And all these papers
just poured off.
1055
00:55:31,898 --> 00:55:34,578
He gave me
one of the first copies,
1056
00:55:34,578 --> 00:55:36,378
which I still have.
1057
00:55:36,378 --> 00:55:38,418
(whirring)
1058
00:55:41,218 --> 00:55:43,498
♪ ♪
1059
00:55:53,978 --> 00:55:55,618
His, uh,
1060
00:55:55,618 --> 00:55:58,458
generosity, his kindness,
his compassion,
1061
00:55:58,458 --> 00:56:01,378
his-his brilliance
as a journalist,
1062
00:56:01,378 --> 00:56:03,618
his... the way he was able
1063
00:56:03,618 --> 00:56:07,498
to get a cohesive team
about him,
1064
00:56:07,498 --> 00:56:09,937
the way he was able
to motivate people.
1065
00:56:11,777 --> 00:56:15,817
That was the best thing
that happened to the campaign,
1066
00:56:15,817 --> 00:56:17,657
Harry Evans coming on board.
1067
00:56:24,857 --> 00:56:27,297
EVANS:
No sooner had we published
1068
00:56:27,297 --> 00:56:28,777
than a deafening silence
1069
00:56:28,777 --> 00:56:31,537
came over
every other newspaper.
1070
00:56:31,537 --> 00:56:33,737
I can remember being at the BBC,
1071
00:56:33,737 --> 00:56:35,977
the only place
which would even interview us,
1072
00:56:35,977 --> 00:56:37,697
a lawyer at my shoulder.
1073
00:56:37,697 --> 00:56:40,577
I mean, th-these children exist
in the real world,
1074
00:56:40,577 --> 00:56:45,057
and we mustn't, uh, be put off
1075
00:56:45,057 --> 00:56:48,017
telling the public about
the plight of the children.
1076
00:56:48,017 --> 00:56:51,897
The only person we heard from
was the attorney general.
1077
00:56:51,897 --> 00:56:55,057
"What the hell are you playing
at, publishing this stuff?
1078
00:56:55,057 --> 00:56:56,617
It's contempt of court."
1079
00:56:56,617 --> 00:56:58,817
NARRATOR: What prompted
the threat was a line
1080
00:56:58,817 --> 00:57:00,737
at the bottom
of the first story,
1081
00:57:00,737 --> 00:57:04,417
which promised future articles
on the origins of the tragedy--
1082
00:57:04,417 --> 00:57:08,257
by implication, an exposé
of Distillers' negligence.
1083
00:57:08,257 --> 00:57:10,937
EVANS: It wasn't the thought
of avoiding jail
1084
00:57:10,937 --> 00:57:13,176
which was uppermost;
any fool can go to prison,
1085
00:57:13,176 --> 00:57:15,096
and I certainly
would've been prepared to do it.
1086
00:57:15,096 --> 00:57:17,136
But if we had published
a single article
1087
00:57:17,136 --> 00:57:19,216
and gone to prison,
end of campaign.
1088
00:57:19,216 --> 00:57:22,256
No-no further money
for the children or anything,
1089
00:57:22,256 --> 00:57:24,016
no further public discussion.
1090
00:57:24,016 --> 00:57:26,856
So we tried to avoid that
throughout, all the time.
1091
00:57:26,856 --> 00:57:29,216
We wanted
to sustain the campaign.
1092
00:57:29,216 --> 00:57:33,536
Thalidomide was a campaign
from the outset.
1093
00:57:33,536 --> 00:57:36,816
He never envisaged
just doing one piece.
1094
00:57:36,816 --> 00:57:40,576
In fact, what we all
learnt-learnt from Harry
1095
00:57:40,576 --> 00:57:44,256
is that a single investigation
did not deliver.
1096
00:57:44,256 --> 00:57:46,616
I think it might not be
a bad idea also
1097
00:57:46,616 --> 00:57:49,056
to write... I'll write
to Distillers today...
1098
00:57:49,056 --> 00:57:52,016
POTTER:
It-it was three-pronged.
1099
00:57:52,016 --> 00:57:54,376
Th-There was the whole...
the legal story,
1100
00:57:54,376 --> 00:57:58,736
uh, the investigation
into-into the drug,
1101
00:57:58,736 --> 00:58:00,176
and, of course, the families
1102
00:58:00,176 --> 00:58:02,856
who were at the heart
of-of everything.
1103
00:58:02,856 --> 00:58:04,776
We were so overstretched
1104
00:58:04,776 --> 00:58:07,656
that we decided
we'd get somebody in
1105
00:58:07,656 --> 00:58:09,416
just to pursue the families,
1106
00:58:09,416 --> 00:58:11,496
and that's
when Marjorie came in.
1107
00:58:11,496 --> 00:58:15,695
Well, my role
was to go round the country
1108
00:58:15,695 --> 00:58:20,615
and stay with and interview
and experience what it was like
1109
00:58:20,615 --> 00:58:23,855
to have a thalidomide child
at that time.
1110
00:58:26,695 --> 00:58:29,335
I would go along and I would
1111
00:58:29,335 --> 00:58:32,175
actually lie on the floors
of some of their houses
1112
00:58:32,175 --> 00:58:33,855
and know what it was like
to have to wake up
1113
00:58:33,855 --> 00:58:35,575
every moment in the night
and turn
1114
00:58:35,575 --> 00:58:38,975
a thalidomide child over
who couldn't turn themselves.
1115
00:58:42,215 --> 00:58:46,815
By living their lives with
them, living and experiencing
1116
00:58:46,815 --> 00:58:50,215
what they experienced,
I felt I understood
1117
00:58:50,215 --> 00:58:55,735
what it was like to have
a child with these deformities.
1118
00:58:57,375 --> 00:58:59,415
When I started finding
1119
00:58:59,415 --> 00:59:02,135
the thalidomide children
and their families,
1120
00:59:02,135 --> 00:59:03,975
some of them were very hard
to track down.
1121
00:59:03,975 --> 00:59:05,735
And some of them
certainly didn't want
1122
00:59:05,735 --> 00:59:06,975
to be interviewed.
1123
00:59:06,975 --> 00:59:09,175
It was a very difficult task.
1124
00:59:09,175 --> 00:59:12,655
And what I did find
was stories that...
1125
00:59:12,655 --> 00:59:14,575
very bleak circumstances.
1126
00:59:14,575 --> 00:59:18,134
They were receiving very little
help, very little recognition,
1127
00:59:18,134 --> 00:59:21,614
and they were being shunned
by society.
1128
00:59:21,614 --> 00:59:22,854
Everyone was afraid.
1129
00:59:22,854 --> 00:59:25,414
They were afraid
of these deformities
1130
00:59:25,414 --> 00:59:27,014
of the children.
1131
00:59:27,014 --> 00:59:28,174
And not only was it
1132
00:59:28,174 --> 00:59:29,654
just the arms and legs.
1133
00:59:29,654 --> 00:59:32,814
Some of the children had...
were like a jigsaw,
1134
00:59:32,814 --> 00:59:36,214
a jumbled jigsaw
of the displaced organs.
1135
00:59:39,574 --> 00:59:42,094
I would know what it was like
just taking a child
1136
00:59:42,094 --> 00:59:44,014
into a café, say.
1137
00:59:44,014 --> 00:59:46,934
And within minutes,
within seconds,
1138
00:59:46,934 --> 00:59:50,254
you look round,
and the queue had evaporated.
1139
00:59:50,254 --> 00:59:51,774
Or I would go along with them,
1140
00:59:51,774 --> 00:59:53,334
say to a crowded beach,
1141
00:59:53,334 --> 00:59:56,814
and, within minutes,
it was a deserted beach.
1142
01:00:01,534 --> 01:00:04,454
Marriages broke up.
1143
01:00:04,454 --> 01:00:06,614
Husbands walked out.
1144
01:00:06,614 --> 01:00:10,134
"That creature's got nothing
to do with me."
1145
01:00:11,454 --> 01:00:14,854
GALVIN: One day...
(whispering): my husband...
1146
01:00:14,854 --> 01:00:16,654
I can't say it in front of...
My husband.
1147
01:00:16,654 --> 01:00:18,373
-Can you hear me?
-INTERVIEWER: Yes.
1148
01:00:18,373 --> 01:00:20,333
Said to me, "We've got to talk."
1149
01:00:20,333 --> 01:00:22,653
And I said, "Yeah, talk."
1150
01:00:22,653 --> 01:00:24,533
I couldn't believe it.
He said...
1151
01:00:24,533 --> 01:00:26,333
he said, "You have a choice."
1152
01:00:26,333 --> 01:00:29,053
I said, "What?" I said, "No."
1153
01:00:29,053 --> 01:00:32,013
I said, "That's a choice
I will never make."
1154
01:00:32,013 --> 01:00:34,333
So I said...
He said, "Otherwise, I'll..."
1155
01:00:34,333 --> 01:00:36,373
I said, "Well,
that you'll have to do.
1156
01:00:36,373 --> 01:00:38,853
I'm not gonna give up
on this one."
1157
01:00:38,853 --> 01:00:40,133
And that's what he did.
1158
01:00:40,133 --> 01:00:42,613
And I was left
with a big mortgage.
1159
01:00:42,613 --> 01:00:45,533
I was left with children, small.
1160
01:00:45,533 --> 01:00:48,733
And I didn't want them affected
by the epilepsy.
1161
01:00:48,733 --> 01:00:52,053
And I knew I had to think
and think very hard.
1162
01:00:52,053 --> 01:00:54,813
And I got the night duty,
12-hour shift every night.
1163
01:00:54,813 --> 01:00:57,773
And I did that for 16 years
without ever going to bed,
1164
01:00:57,773 --> 01:01:00,093
and, for some reason,
I was never tired.
1165
01:01:00,093 --> 01:01:02,053
Somebody's looking after me.
1166
01:01:05,653 --> 01:01:09,133
WALLACE: What happened
with The Sunday Times,
1167
01:01:09,133 --> 01:01:12,413
Harry Evans,
he would put these photographs
1168
01:01:12,413 --> 01:01:14,173
on the pages of the newspaper
1169
01:01:14,173 --> 01:01:17,813
that everyone else would say
was unacceptable.
1170
01:01:17,813 --> 01:01:19,772
But by doing so,
1171
01:01:19,772 --> 01:01:23,532
he really liberated
many of the families.
1172
01:01:26,652 --> 01:01:28,572
MYRIAD SINCLAIR:
The doctors said
1173
01:01:28,572 --> 01:01:32,532
this had been caused
by me eating lamb
1174
01:01:32,532 --> 01:01:36,132
that had been infected
from a nuclear fallout.
1175
01:01:36,132 --> 01:01:42,532
We suspected when we saw the
first article by Harold Evans.
1176
01:01:42,532 --> 01:01:45,852
We wrote to The Times
1177
01:01:45,852 --> 01:01:48,852
and got information from them.
1178
01:01:48,852 --> 01:01:51,932
And without that,
we wouldn't have known.
1179
01:01:51,932 --> 01:01:54,932
NARRATOR: The moral campaign
had shone a light
1180
01:01:54,932 --> 01:01:57,412
on the lives
of the thalidomide victims.
1181
01:01:57,412 --> 01:02:00,332
But still, the threat of legal
action by the attorney general
1182
01:02:00,332 --> 01:02:03,092
hung over The Sunday Times.
1183
01:02:03,092 --> 01:02:07,492
EVANS: The real turning point
in the campaign was
1184
01:02:07,492 --> 01:02:09,812
I got a letter
1185
01:02:09,812 --> 01:02:12,332
from the attorney general
one day.
1186
01:02:12,332 --> 01:02:16,372
"The attorney general decided
not to proceed against you
1187
01:02:16,372 --> 01:02:20,012
"on what you've already
published, the moral campaign,
1188
01:02:20,012 --> 01:02:23,731
"but if you go ahead
with the rest of what you said,
1189
01:02:23,731 --> 01:02:25,891
take care. We..."
1190
01:02:25,891 --> 01:02:28,691
The implication:
we will then sue you.
1191
01:02:28,691 --> 01:02:31,571
NARRATOR: The attorney general's
letter to Harry
1192
01:02:31,571 --> 01:02:33,491
allowing the moral campaign
1193
01:02:33,491 --> 01:02:36,971
effectively granted
the same right to MPs.
1194
01:02:36,971 --> 01:02:40,091
Jack Ashley and Alf Morris
had been supporters
1195
01:02:40,091 --> 01:02:42,531
of the campaign
from the very first.
1196
01:02:42,531 --> 01:02:45,331
In parliament, they had been
the main driving force
1197
01:02:45,331 --> 01:02:48,851
behind trying to persuade
the speaker to grant a debate.
1198
01:02:50,291 --> 01:02:53,131
EVANS: That day--
that very day-- Jack Ashley
1199
01:02:53,131 --> 01:02:56,091
was going to see the speaker
in the House of Commons to say,
1200
01:02:56,091 --> 01:02:58,571
"Look, let's have
a debate on this.
1201
01:02:58,571 --> 01:03:03,051
These-these children are not
getting proper compensation."
1202
01:03:03,051 --> 01:03:05,691
And the next day,
the speaker agrees to give up
1203
01:03:05,691 --> 01:03:08,571
parliamentary time
for the Labour Party
1204
01:03:08,571 --> 01:03:10,291
for a debate on thalidomide.
1205
01:03:10,291 --> 01:03:12,011
That's the moment.
1206
01:03:16,771 --> 01:03:18,611
Before the debate,
1207
01:03:18,611 --> 01:03:20,091
I was stopped in the corridor
1208
01:03:20,091 --> 01:03:22,450
by the prime minister's
personal assistant.
1209
01:03:22,450 --> 01:03:24,010
He said,
1210
01:03:24,010 --> 01:03:27,450
"We'd like you not to go ahead
with your campaign,
1211
01:03:27,450 --> 01:03:31,050
"and we've arranged for
an extra five million pounds.
1212
01:03:31,050 --> 01:03:32,490
But don't go ahead."
1213
01:03:32,490 --> 01:03:33,970
So I said, "I'm sorry.
It's not enough."
1214
01:03:33,970 --> 01:03:35,930
I said, "I want...
We need 20 million.
1215
01:03:35,930 --> 01:03:37,570
I'm advised we need 20 million."
1216
01:03:37,570 --> 01:03:40,570
NARRATOR:
Jack Ashley opened with words
1217
01:03:40,570 --> 01:03:43,930
that moved members
on all sides of the House.
1218
01:03:45,810 --> 01:03:49,170
"We are debating today
a great national tragedy.
1219
01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:52,970
"Nonetheless poignant because
it happened ten years ago.
1220
01:03:52,970 --> 01:03:55,890
"But what kind of adolescence
will a ten-year old boy
1221
01:03:55,890 --> 01:03:58,410
"look forward to
when he has no arms,
1222
01:03:58,410 --> 01:04:01,530
"no legs and is only
two feet tall?
1223
01:04:01,530 --> 01:04:03,690
"That is the height
of two whiskey bottles
1224
01:04:03,690 --> 01:04:07,210
"placed one on top
of the other.
1225
01:04:07,210 --> 01:04:10,410
"How can an 11-year old girl
look forward to laughing
1226
01:04:10,410 --> 01:04:13,570
"and loving when she has
no hand to be held
1227
01:04:13,570 --> 01:04:17,010
and no legs to dance on?"
1228
01:04:17,010 --> 01:04:18,930
EVANS:
So, we had the debate,
1229
01:04:18,930 --> 01:04:20,850
and that was
absolutely stunning,
1230
01:04:20,850 --> 01:04:23,970
because now the press,
having been scared--
1231
01:04:23,970 --> 01:04:26,249
either scared of contempt
1232
01:04:26,249 --> 01:04:29,289
or competitively jealous,
whatever--
1233
01:04:29,289 --> 01:04:31,969
would now report in the case,
we now had a case.
1234
01:04:31,969 --> 01:04:34,329
Also, what was now
very important,
1235
01:04:34,329 --> 01:04:36,649
as distinct from when I was
editor at The Northern Echo
1236
01:04:36,649 --> 01:04:39,449
and got complaints,
I now got thousands of letters
1237
01:04:39,449 --> 01:04:40,889
saying, "Please continue."
1238
01:04:40,889 --> 01:04:44,129
I think there was
definitely a-a...
1239
01:04:44,129 --> 01:04:47,409
maybe not a day,
but definitely a week
1240
01:04:47,409 --> 01:04:51,969
when the fight changed from
nobody knowing about it
1241
01:04:51,969 --> 01:04:54,809
to, you know,
the population of England
1242
01:04:54,809 --> 01:04:57,649
realizing that something
was happening.
1243
01:05:01,649 --> 01:05:04,969
NARRATOR:
Once free to report,
1244
01:05:04,969 --> 01:05:06,489
much of the press joined
1245
01:05:06,489 --> 01:05:08,129
with The Sunday Times
in condemning
1246
01:05:08,129 --> 01:05:10,649
how the children
had been treated.
1247
01:05:10,649 --> 01:05:12,529
Now informed
at what had been going on,
1248
01:05:12,529 --> 01:05:15,529
the public were shocked
and disgusted.
1249
01:05:15,529 --> 01:05:19,409
The floodgates opened,
and Distillers reeled.
1250
01:05:23,169 --> 01:05:25,489
Distillers were
on the back foot,
1251
01:05:25,489 --> 01:05:27,768
trying to limit the damage
and the amount of compensation
1252
01:05:27,768 --> 01:05:30,008
they would have to pay.
1253
01:05:30,008 --> 01:05:32,528
They responded by apparently
raising their offer
1254
01:05:32,528 --> 01:05:35,608
from anywhere between
five and 11 million pounds,
1255
01:05:35,608 --> 01:05:37,888
but these were exposed
as little more than
1256
01:05:37,888 --> 01:05:40,248
accountancy tricks
designed for them
1257
01:05:40,248 --> 01:05:42,488
to pay as little as possible.
1258
01:05:42,488 --> 01:05:46,288
Within a very short time,
the plight of the children
1259
01:05:46,288 --> 01:05:48,728
became a national
talking point.
1260
01:05:48,728 --> 01:05:51,928
People wanted to help
in any way they could.
1261
01:05:53,568 --> 01:05:56,888
A small group of people
decided to appeal
1262
01:05:56,888 --> 01:06:00,048
to the individual
shareholders directly.
1263
01:06:00,048 --> 01:06:03,288
When they approached Distillers
to buy a list of the names,
1264
01:06:03,288 --> 01:06:05,848
the company, who were
legally bound to comply,
1265
01:06:05,848 --> 01:06:08,808
said the volumes
would cost 2,000 pounds--
1266
01:06:08,808 --> 01:06:11,928
a figure
well beyond their reach.
1267
01:06:11,928 --> 01:06:14,568
They turned to Harry for help.
1268
01:06:14,568 --> 01:06:16,848
So they came to our...
my office,
1269
01:06:16,848 --> 01:06:18,848
uh, with Knightley's
encouragement,
1270
01:06:18,848 --> 01:06:22,608
and we bought
the shareholders, uh,
1271
01:06:22,608 --> 01:06:24,688
paid Sunday Times money
buying the lists of names
1272
01:06:24,688 --> 01:06:26,528
of the shareholders
so we could write to them.
1273
01:06:26,528 --> 01:06:29,167
MASON: It was like
a general election.
1274
01:06:29,167 --> 01:06:32,687
I mean, the phone would go,
and, uh, people would say, uh,
1275
01:06:32,687 --> 01:06:34,407
"We represent Ealing Council.
1276
01:06:34,407 --> 01:06:36,767
We have so many shares,
and we support Mason."
1277
01:06:36,767 --> 01:06:38,207
And, uh, so it went on.
1278
01:06:38,207 --> 01:06:40,047
So I thought,
"Well, this is great."
1279
01:06:40,047 --> 01:06:43,527
Another person who made
a huge difference was Ron Peet,
1280
01:06:43,527 --> 01:06:46,487
who headed
the Legal & General company.
1281
01:06:46,487 --> 01:06:49,327
I was speaking as
an institutional investor.
1282
01:06:49,327 --> 01:06:53,207
And I thought that it would be
in the shareholders' interest
1283
01:06:53,207 --> 01:06:57,287
if Distillers were to make
some sort of reasonable offer.
1284
01:06:57,287 --> 01:07:00,767
And he-- amazing-- he got up
1285
01:07:00,767 --> 01:07:03,607
and-and made a speech
in the city, as I recall...
1286
01:07:03,607 --> 01:07:07,567
Their products had clearly
done a vast amount of harm,
1287
01:07:07,567 --> 01:07:10,647
and they were not admitting
any moral liability,
1288
01:07:10,647 --> 01:07:12,447
which I thought there was.
1289
01:07:12,447 --> 01:07:15,767
It is now evident
and has been made clear
1290
01:07:15,767 --> 01:07:18,367
that we have
the necessary ten percent
1291
01:07:18,367 --> 01:07:22,247
of the voting power needed
to serve upon Distillers
1292
01:07:22,247 --> 01:07:25,647
notice for them to call an
extraordinary general meeting.
1293
01:07:25,647 --> 01:07:27,887
And indeed, the share price
for Distillers
1294
01:07:27,887 --> 01:07:30,126
started to tumble and fall.
1295
01:07:30,126 --> 01:07:33,006
Because by now, we've had
the huge debate in Parliament,
1296
01:07:33,006 --> 01:07:36,006
we've got the continuing
campaign in The Sunday Times
1297
01:07:36,006 --> 01:07:39,806
with photographs and Marjorie
Wallace's stories and stuff.
1298
01:07:39,806 --> 01:07:43,846
And we got, as our
high explosive pack,
1299
01:07:43,846 --> 01:07:47,166
that Bruce Page
and Elaine Potter documentation
1300
01:07:47,166 --> 01:07:48,646
of the fact that it...
1301
01:07:48,646 --> 01:07:50,726
there really was
negligence here.
1302
01:07:52,526 --> 01:07:54,926
NARRATOR: As press
and the public's anger built,
1303
01:07:54,926 --> 01:07:57,606
so did the pressure
on Distillers.
1304
01:07:57,606 --> 01:07:58,846
Individuals and retailers
1305
01:07:58,846 --> 01:08:01,366
started to boycott
their products.
1306
01:08:01,366 --> 01:08:04,566
Many companies, big and small,
offered whatever they could
1307
01:08:04,566 --> 01:08:06,526
to aid
The Sunday Times campaign.
1308
01:08:06,526 --> 01:08:08,246
DAVID GREIG: I personally
have been very concerned
1309
01:08:08,246 --> 01:08:09,646
about this for a long time.
1310
01:08:09,646 --> 01:08:12,486
And with all this,
uh, as I call it,
1311
01:08:12,486 --> 01:08:14,086
lack of understanding
for the feelings
1312
01:08:14,086 --> 01:08:15,246
of the people involved,
1313
01:08:15,246 --> 01:08:17,086
then somebody
has got to take a step.
1314
01:08:17,086 --> 01:08:21,566
PEET: Customers were turning
against Distillers' products.
1315
01:08:21,566 --> 01:08:23,326
And there were
these stories going around
1316
01:08:23,326 --> 01:08:27,326
about people going into
the duty-free shop at Heathrow
1317
01:08:27,326 --> 01:08:30,246
to buy whiskey,
and when asked what they wanted,
1318
01:08:30,246 --> 01:08:33,485
they said they didn't mind
as long as it wasn't Distillers.
1319
01:08:33,485 --> 01:08:36,565
And that didn't seem to me to be
very good for shareholders.
1320
01:08:36,565 --> 01:08:40,165
NARRATOR: Harry's moral campaign
had grown to such an extent
1321
01:08:40,165 --> 01:08:41,845
that it caught the eye
of American
1322
01:08:41,845 --> 01:08:44,165
consumer rights champion
Ralph Nader,
1323
01:08:44,165 --> 01:08:45,765
who offered his support.
1324
01:08:45,765 --> 01:08:49,405
Mr. Nader. How are you?
Nice of you to phone.
1325
01:08:49,405 --> 01:08:50,845
NADER:
David Mason asked me
1326
01:08:50,845 --> 01:08:53,365
if I could help him
with the consumer groups
1327
01:08:53,365 --> 01:08:56,205
in the United States
to put pressure on Distillers,
1328
01:08:56,205 --> 01:08:59,285
uh, to up their
paltry compensation.
1329
01:08:59,285 --> 01:09:02,605
So I decided
to go over to America.
1330
01:09:02,605 --> 01:09:05,645
I got Ralph Nader
to agree to see me.
1331
01:09:05,645 --> 01:09:07,405
MALE REPORTER:
David Mason will be meeting
1332
01:09:07,405 --> 01:09:10,485
Ralph Nader later tonight,
and they're expected
1333
01:09:10,485 --> 01:09:12,165
to hold a joint
press conference later
1334
01:09:12,165 --> 01:09:15,165
to announce what action
they plan to take.
1335
01:09:15,165 --> 01:09:19,205
MASON: And I got on this Pan Am
flight, and I'm sitting there,
1336
01:09:19,205 --> 01:09:21,445
and then there was
this announcement.
1337
01:09:21,445 --> 01:09:23,205
They said, "Well, um, ladies and
gentlemen, now we're going to...
1338
01:09:23,205 --> 01:09:24,765
"the drinks trolley
will be going round,
1339
01:09:24,765 --> 01:09:26,565
"and we can offer you
Johnnie Walker's Whisky
1340
01:09:26,565 --> 01:09:28,205
and Gordon's Gin
and this and that."
1341
01:09:28,205 --> 01:09:29,925
I thought, "What?" So I got...
1342
01:09:29,925 --> 01:09:32,045
I thought,
"I'm not standing for this."
1343
01:09:32,045 --> 01:09:35,244
So I followed the drinks trolley
round the cabin.
1344
01:09:35,244 --> 01:09:37,684
So when somebody said,
"I'd like a-a Gordon's Gin",
1345
01:09:37,684 --> 01:09:39,364
I'd say, "Well,
I'm David Mason. This is..."
1346
01:09:39,364 --> 01:09:41,204
And I had the newspaper things
and they'd say,
1347
01:09:41,204 --> 01:09:42,884
"Well, I'll have another drink."
1348
01:09:42,884 --> 01:09:45,284
I followed the drinks trolley
all the way round the plane,
1349
01:09:45,284 --> 01:09:49,244
and not one person
bought a Distillers product.
1350
01:09:49,244 --> 01:09:51,364
Now, the importance
of that was very...
1351
01:09:51,364 --> 01:09:52,884
It was absolutely huge.
1352
01:09:52,884 --> 01:09:56,844
All you had to do was,
uh, develop enough antipathy--
1353
01:09:56,844 --> 01:09:59,364
maybe five percent
of sales reduction--
1354
01:09:59,364 --> 01:10:02,524
and these companies would pay
attention, because y-you're
1355
01:10:02,524 --> 01:10:04,484
dealing with hundreds
of millions of dollars.
1356
01:10:04,484 --> 01:10:06,724
And once a stigma is attached
1357
01:10:06,724 --> 01:10:09,044
to a brand name
and that brand name
1358
01:10:09,044 --> 01:10:13,364
involves alcoholic beverages
which are easily abandoned,
1359
01:10:13,364 --> 01:10:17,884
uh, in favor of similar
alcoholic beverages,
1360
01:10:17,884 --> 01:10:20,884
uh, the message
was quite clear to Distillers.
1361
01:10:20,884 --> 01:10:24,404
MASON: And, uh, there were
all loads of press.
1362
01:10:24,404 --> 01:10:27,284
CBS, NBC, you name it,
they were all out there.
1363
01:10:27,284 --> 01:10:29,444
Uh, Harold Evans
had done a great job
1364
01:10:29,444 --> 01:10:33,604
of laying it on with the press
over in America.
1365
01:10:33,604 --> 01:10:36,003
What they're really after
in the complicated,
1366
01:10:36,003 --> 01:10:39,923
uh, accounting, uh, processes
of-of these companies
1367
01:10:39,923 --> 01:10:43,603
is-is to... is to pay out
just enough
1368
01:10:43,603 --> 01:10:48,083
to avoid having
any net cost to the company.
1369
01:10:48,083 --> 01:10:51,563
Uh, now, the significance
of the boycott
1370
01:10:51,563 --> 01:10:54,843
is that it talks the language
of Mr. MacDonald,
1371
01:10:54,843 --> 01:10:57,923
who understands, as they say,
pounds and pence.
1372
01:10:57,923 --> 01:11:00,923
And one chap stood up
and he said,
1373
01:11:00,923 --> 01:11:04,643
"Mr. Nader", he said,
"the realities
1374
01:11:04,643 --> 01:11:06,723
of bringing about
a boycott", he said,
1375
01:11:06,723 --> 01:11:08,923
"are very far-reaching and huge,
1376
01:11:08,923 --> 01:11:12,203
and just to set it up
would take forever."
1377
01:11:12,203 --> 01:11:14,083
And I said,
"I think I can answer that,
1378
01:11:14,083 --> 01:11:17,683
"because I was flying over here
on a Pan Am flight
1379
01:11:17,683 --> 01:11:19,643
and the following thing
happened."
1380
01:11:19,643 --> 01:11:22,243
And I started to recount
what had happened
1381
01:11:22,243 --> 01:11:25,483
on this Pan Am flight and how
everybody boycotted the prod...
1382
01:11:25,483 --> 01:11:27,843
Well, th-they just loved it.
1383
01:11:27,843 --> 01:11:29,923
And Ralph was
looking at me, absolut...
1384
01:11:29,923 --> 01:11:33,323
'Cause I hadn't told him
about it, and everybody wa...
1385
01:11:33,323 --> 01:11:35,523
everybody was laughing,
and-and he said,
1386
01:11:35,523 --> 01:11:38,122
"Well, there we are. Mr. Mason's
just carried it forward
1387
01:11:38,122 --> 01:11:40,882
and shown you
how it can be done."
1388
01:11:40,882 --> 01:11:42,962
And David was
extremely articulate.
1389
01:11:42,962 --> 01:11:45,522
Uh, one should never
underestimate the role
1390
01:11:45,522 --> 01:11:47,322
of-of a handful of the parents
1391
01:11:47,322 --> 01:11:50,722
who broke through
their grief and became,
1392
01:11:50,722 --> 01:11:55,682
uh, eloquent advocates
for their cause.
1393
01:11:57,882 --> 01:12:00,162
NARRATOR:
The Sunday Times moral campaign
1394
01:12:00,162 --> 01:12:03,282
wasn't just going to fade away.
1395
01:12:03,282 --> 01:12:05,042
In nine days, Distillers shares
1396
01:12:05,042 --> 01:12:08,842
lost 35 million pounds
in value.
1397
01:12:08,842 --> 01:12:11,842
This was arithmetic
Edinburgh understood.
1398
01:12:11,842 --> 01:12:16,162
EVANS: We began the campaign
in September 1972.
1399
01:12:16,162 --> 01:12:20,522
Three, four months later,
Distillers caved in.
1400
01:12:22,762 --> 01:12:25,642
And they offered the 20 million.
1401
01:12:25,642 --> 01:12:28,722
Uh, the...
1402
01:12:28,722 --> 01:12:32,762
We were told that
the treasury had to tax it.
1403
01:12:32,762 --> 01:12:35,242
So I wrote an editorial
the same day,
1404
01:12:35,242 --> 01:12:37,642
saying this would be
unthinkable.
1405
01:12:37,642 --> 01:12:42,281
And Harold Wilson, the next day,
gave an extra five million
1406
01:12:42,281 --> 01:12:45,161
so that no tax had to be paid.
1407
01:12:49,761 --> 01:12:51,921
Here, David.
1408
01:12:59,521 --> 01:13:01,681
LOUISE MEDUS-MANSELL:
I remember being in the paper,
1409
01:13:01,681 --> 01:13:03,401
on the press.
1410
01:13:03,401 --> 01:13:05,441
I remember, um,
1411
01:13:05,441 --> 01:13:09,281
the strain on-on the family.
1412
01:13:10,521 --> 01:13:13,201
And I also remember
meeting Harry at my house.
1413
01:13:13,201 --> 01:13:15,161
I didn't know who he was;
I thought he was
1414
01:13:15,161 --> 01:13:17,001
a rather strange man
to start off with.
1415
01:13:17,001 --> 01:13:21,521
And the fact that he and my dad
and the rest of the campaign,
1416
01:13:21,521 --> 01:13:23,681
you know, the rest
of the campaign team
1417
01:13:23,681 --> 01:13:27,001
finally did
get the compensation--
1418
01:13:27,001 --> 01:13:29,721
that was so important to us.
1419
01:13:29,721 --> 01:13:33,801
You know, I remember
saying that at...
1420
01:13:33,801 --> 01:13:36,161
(clears throat)
1421
01:13:36,161 --> 01:13:40,241
...that at the end of the day,
there were no medals to be won,
1422
01:13:40,241 --> 01:13:44,520
because the victims
still had no arms and no legs.
1423
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,280
(film projector rattling)
1424
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:52,960
MIKEY ARGY:
We received the compensation,
1425
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,120
and the trust fund was set up
1426
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,280
around the same time,
because they were aware--
1427
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,120
Harold Evans was very aware--
1428
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,360
that we would need that money
for the rest of our lives.
1429
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,240
NARRATOR: But the settlement
was not universally acclaimed
1430
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,600
by other commentators
who didn't know the full facts.
1431
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,120
EVANS: Peregrine Worsthorne
and all those were saying,
1432
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,120
"Harold Evans
is like a Robin Hood.
1433
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,560
He's just, you know,
a bandit holding people up."
1434
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,560
AJP Taylor,
the famous historian, said,
1435
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,000
"This is outrageous, what
The Sunday Times was doing."
1436
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,840
So, it's very, very important,
therefore, to conti...
1437
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,200
for two reasons:
one, to show what had happened,
1438
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,120
and two, to learn.
1439
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,960
If we don't learn
from this drug disaster,
1440
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,920
which we should have learned
in 1962, we should ha...
1441
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,639
1963, we should have
learned, 1964.
1442
01:14:45,639 --> 01:14:48,759
And we're now in 1973,
and we still haven't learned
1443
01:14:48,759 --> 01:14:50,479
what the cause of the disaster.
1444
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,919
They're really incredible.
1445
01:14:56,359 --> 01:15:00,079
This is... this is the, uh,
chemical breakup of it...
1446
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:02,799
NARRATOR: Although they had won
the moral victory
1447
01:15:02,799 --> 01:15:04,719
and proper compensation,
1448
01:15:04,719 --> 01:15:07,679
the true story about the drug
had yet to be told.
1449
01:15:07,679 --> 01:15:09,599
The Insight team carried on
1450
01:15:09,599 --> 01:15:11,239
with their forensic
investigation
1451
01:15:11,239 --> 01:15:13,999
into the hidden causes
of the disaster,
1452
01:15:13,999 --> 01:15:17,079
and started to compose the most
explosive piece of all:
1453
01:15:17,079 --> 01:15:20,639
"Thalidomide:
The Story They Suppressed."
1454
01:15:20,639 --> 01:15:22,839
POTTER:
After the...
1455
01:15:22,839 --> 01:15:25,399
the September the 24th article
appeared,
1456
01:15:25,399 --> 01:15:28,199
it was only after that, uh,
1457
01:15:28,199 --> 01:15:32,559
that we... we really
began the investigation.
1458
01:15:32,559 --> 01:15:34,839
NARRATOR:
The first question to ask was:
1459
01:15:34,839 --> 01:15:37,359
Why did Distillers want
to license the drug?
1460
01:15:37,359 --> 01:15:39,639
They had little history
of pharmaceuticals.
1461
01:15:39,639 --> 01:15:41,559
POTTER:
The thing about Distillers
1462
01:15:41,559 --> 01:15:45,118
was that
they were new to drugs.
1463
01:15:45,118 --> 01:15:48,438
Thalidomide was practically the
first drug they'd ever handled.
1464
01:15:51,158 --> 01:15:53,238
And they'd read an article,
which I think actually appeared
1465
01:15:53,238 --> 01:15:57,638
in The Sunday Times,
uh, written by Aldous Huxley,
1466
01:15:57,638 --> 01:16:00,118
a sort of
Brave New World account
1467
01:16:00,118 --> 01:16:01,798
of what was going to happen,
1468
01:16:01,798 --> 01:16:04,038
a sort of futurologist
sort of piece,
1469
01:16:04,038 --> 01:16:06,958
saying that drugs were
gonna replace alcohol.
1470
01:16:06,958 --> 01:16:10,278
And they-they sort of had a bit
of a panic, and they thought,
1471
01:16:10,278 --> 01:16:12,678
"Well, we better do something
about this."
1472
01:16:12,678 --> 01:16:16,718
And that is...
that is why they got into drugs.
1473
01:16:16,718 --> 01:16:18,598
(machine clacking steadily)
1474
01:16:18,598 --> 01:16:20,718
NARRATOR:
The investigation looked
1475
01:16:20,718 --> 01:16:22,478
to challenge
the Distillers claim
1476
01:16:22,478 --> 01:16:24,798
about the tests
carried out in that era.
1477
01:16:26,198 --> 01:16:29,078
POTTER: We looked to see
which drug companies did what
1478
01:16:29,078 --> 01:16:32,198
and what they knew
about drugs in the '50s.
1479
01:16:33,278 --> 01:16:36,238
I then went to America.
1480
01:16:36,238 --> 01:16:38,678
And I went round
all the major drug companies,
1481
01:16:38,678 --> 01:16:40,878
finding out what they knew
1482
01:16:40,878 --> 01:16:43,918
before marketing new drugs.
1483
01:16:43,918 --> 01:16:47,277
And what we very quickly
learned and confirmed
1484
01:16:47,277 --> 01:16:49,237
was that the serious companies,
1485
01:16:49,237 --> 01:16:52,237
the companies which had been in
the business for a long time,
1486
01:16:52,237 --> 01:16:55,557
did reproductive studies
actually looking
1487
01:16:55,557 --> 01:16:57,757
to see whether they produced
1488
01:16:57,757 --> 01:16:59,077
damage to the fetus.
1489
01:16:59,077 --> 01:17:01,837
Lederle, Hoffman-LaRoche,
1490
01:17:01,837 --> 01:17:03,357
Smith-Kline & French--
1491
01:17:03,357 --> 01:17:05,917
they all did
reproductive studies.
1492
01:17:05,917 --> 01:17:07,597
And ICI here.
1493
01:17:07,597 --> 01:17:09,357
ICI actually went to
1494
01:17:09,357 --> 01:17:15,197
the level of using primates, uh,
which was very serious indeed.
1495
01:17:21,277 --> 01:17:24,517
NARRATOR: In 1957,
Distillers had sent the drug
1496
01:17:24,517 --> 01:17:27,597
for independent testing.
1497
01:17:27,597 --> 01:17:30,237
The results warned
that it could cause damage
1498
01:17:30,237 --> 01:17:34,717
to the thyroid gland,
a known cause of birth defects,
1499
01:17:34,717 --> 01:17:37,117
but they still went ahead.
1500
01:17:40,277 --> 01:17:42,917
Bruce Page went
to extraordinary lengths
1501
01:17:42,917 --> 01:17:44,797
to understand
the complex details
1502
01:17:44,797 --> 01:17:46,997
of how the drug
actually worked.
1503
01:17:46,997 --> 01:17:49,236
PAGE:
One of the things you've got to
1504
01:17:49,236 --> 01:17:53,836
understand about...
about the testing of drugs
1505
01:17:53,836 --> 01:17:56,556
is, even now, with the best
possible technology,
1506
01:17:56,556 --> 01:17:59,156
it isn't foolproof.
1507
01:17:59,156 --> 01:18:02,196
But you can say
1508
01:18:02,196 --> 01:18:06,636
that nature...
usually provides warning signs
1509
01:18:06,636 --> 01:18:09,516
around desperate chemicals.
1510
01:18:09,516 --> 01:18:13,876
And almost any time
you look at thalidomide,
1511
01:18:13,876 --> 01:18:15,756
it shows up bad.
1512
01:18:15,756 --> 01:18:19,396
It's a very complex
little molecule.
1513
01:18:19,396 --> 01:18:21,036
Exists in strange forms,
1514
01:18:21,036 --> 01:18:23,916
and its actions
are very unpredictable.
1515
01:18:23,916 --> 01:18:29,316
Thalidomide is asymmetric,
and that's in the words
1516
01:18:29,316 --> 01:18:32,796
of Dr. Robert Smith, I recall,
at St. Mary's Hospital.
1517
01:18:32,796 --> 01:18:34,396
He said, "Just look at that.
1518
01:18:34,396 --> 01:18:35,956
"That's a nasty molecule.
1519
01:18:35,956 --> 01:18:37,796
There's something wrong
with it."
1520
01:18:39,236 --> 01:18:42,116
Grunenthal were really,
really bad at drug testing,
1521
01:18:42,116 --> 01:18:45,356
and Distillers knew nothing
about it at all.
1522
01:18:45,356 --> 01:18:47,596
The intersection of
1523
01:18:47,596 --> 01:18:51,115
this bunch of soap makers,
which is what they had been,
1524
01:18:51,115 --> 01:18:53,795
with the bunch
of whiskey makers in Britain,
1525
01:18:53,795 --> 01:18:56,875
was a horrible
one-off disaster.
1526
01:18:59,195 --> 01:19:03,035
EVANS: The Minister of Health
at the time, Mr. Enoch Powell,
1527
01:19:03,035 --> 01:19:05,715
instead of rushing
to the defense of the parents,
1528
01:19:05,715 --> 01:19:07,795
doesn't have a public enquiry
and is
1529
01:19:07,795 --> 01:19:11,115
briefed, or receives a briefing,
1530
01:19:11,115 --> 01:19:13,515
which is basically the
Distillers case, and accepts it.
1531
01:19:13,515 --> 01:19:17,155
Yes, the civil servant who
briefs Powell is himself briefed
1532
01:19:17,155 --> 01:19:19,675
by a senior man at Distillers.
1533
01:19:21,235 --> 01:19:24,195
NARRATOR: Finally,
the investigation was complete.
1534
01:19:24,195 --> 01:19:26,435
The results damning.
1535
01:19:26,435 --> 01:19:29,595
But still, The Sunday Times was
prevented from publishing it
1536
01:19:29,595 --> 01:19:31,235
because an injunction
was in place.
1537
01:19:31,235 --> 01:19:33,355
MALE REPORTER:
And you can't tell me now
1538
01:19:33,355 --> 01:19:34,675
what was going on in Distillers?
1539
01:19:34,675 --> 01:19:36,195
I can't tell you, no.
1540
01:19:36,195 --> 01:19:38,835
I'm bound by the injunction,
as anybody else is.
1541
01:19:38,835 --> 01:19:40,395
Did they have
research facilities,
1542
01:19:40,395 --> 01:19:42,755
laboratories for testing drugs,
that sort of thing?
1543
01:19:42,755 --> 01:19:45,035
Not on the scale
that would've been necessary
1544
01:19:45,035 --> 01:19:47,275
to market a drug
like thalidomide in Britain.
1545
01:19:47,275 --> 01:19:48,955
But nonetheless,
they did market it.
1546
01:19:48,955 --> 01:19:51,835
Yes, they went ahead
and marketed it.
1547
01:19:51,835 --> 01:19:54,674
And how that came about is
the part that you can't tell?
1548
01:19:54,674 --> 01:19:56,434
That's what
I'm not allowed to tell.
1549
01:19:56,434 --> 01:19:59,674
We're already
on touchy ground here.
1550
01:19:59,674 --> 01:20:03,554
The details of why they actually
picked on thalidomide,
1551
01:20:03,554 --> 01:20:05,634
why they went
to Chemie Grunenthal,
1552
01:20:05,634 --> 01:20:07,794
uh, what tests
they did on the drug
1553
01:20:07,794 --> 01:20:12,474
before marketing it on animals,
uh, what tests they did to see
1554
01:20:12,474 --> 01:20:15,314
how the drug was absorbed
into the human system,
1555
01:20:15,314 --> 01:20:17,794
what tests they did to see
whether it was safe
1556
01:20:17,794 --> 01:20:21,394
for pregnant women to take
before advertising it as such,
1557
01:20:21,394 --> 01:20:23,994
what clinical trials they did
and the results
1558
01:20:23,994 --> 01:20:26,554
of those clinical trials,
I can't discuss.
1559
01:20:26,554 --> 01:20:30,154
NARRATOR: However, building on
the Insight team's research,
1560
01:20:30,154 --> 01:20:32,554
the Thalidomide Trust
and others have finally,
1561
01:20:32,554 --> 01:20:36,114
but only recently,
began to uncover the full story
1562
01:20:36,114 --> 01:20:39,074
of the drug's development.
1563
01:20:41,114 --> 01:20:43,994
They looked into how the owners
of Chemie Grunenthal
1564
01:20:43,994 --> 01:20:47,074
had had the resources to set up
a pharmaceutical division
1565
01:20:47,074 --> 01:20:50,874
when all around them
was rubble.
1566
01:20:50,874 --> 01:20:52,634
They discovered
that they were paid-up members
1567
01:20:52,634 --> 01:20:54,353
of the Nazi Party
1568
01:20:54,353 --> 01:20:56,193
who'd exploited
the Aryanization program
1569
01:20:56,193 --> 01:20:58,673
in order to buy up
Jewish-owned companies
1570
01:20:58,673 --> 01:21:01,713
at a fraction of their value.
1571
01:21:01,713 --> 01:21:04,193
According to
the company's records,
1572
01:21:04,193 --> 01:21:06,353
it only took eight weeks
from starting
1573
01:21:06,353 --> 01:21:09,513
to develop their wonder drug
to the first patent
1574
01:21:09,513 --> 01:21:11,153
for thalidomide being filed.
1575
01:21:11,153 --> 01:21:16,033
This seemed a suspiciously
short amount of time.
1576
01:21:16,033 --> 01:21:18,073
In all likelihood,
the scientists involved
1577
01:21:18,073 --> 01:21:22,473
had been working on these
compounds prior to the war.
1578
01:21:57,112 --> 01:21:59,712
NARRATOR: Hitler ordered
one of those scientists
1579
01:21:59,712 --> 01:22:02,552
to develop an antidote.
1580
01:22:04,192 --> 01:22:07,312
After the war,
Otto Ambros went on to work
1581
01:22:07,312 --> 01:22:09,392
at Chemie Grunenthal.
1582
01:22:09,392 --> 01:22:13,672
JOHNSON: Now, Otto Ambros was
known as "the Devil's Chemist,"
1583
01:22:13,672 --> 01:22:15,912
and he was the man
1584
01:22:15,912 --> 01:22:20,592
who decided that there should be
a big concentration camp
1585
01:22:20,592 --> 01:22:23,392
at a place called Auschwitz.
1586
01:22:25,392 --> 01:22:28,872
We looked at thalidomide,
1587
01:22:28,872 --> 01:22:31,112
and we looked at the claim that
1588
01:22:31,112 --> 01:22:33,912
it was a completely new type
of compound,
1589
01:22:33,912 --> 01:22:37,312
and we discovered instead
that, in fact,
1590
01:22:37,312 --> 01:22:41,272
it was one of thousands
of similar compounds,
1591
01:22:41,272 --> 01:22:44,032
and-and some of them
well-known drugs,
1592
01:22:44,032 --> 01:22:47,672
that went back to the 1940s
and the 1930s.
1593
01:22:47,672 --> 01:22:52,832
We got hold of the earliest
patents for thalidomide,
1594
01:22:52,832 --> 01:22:56,032
and we showed them
to one of our experts,
1595
01:22:56,032 --> 01:22:58,631
and he looked at the description
of the effects
1596
01:22:58,631 --> 01:23:02,151
of this chemical and said,
"How did they know that?"
1597
01:23:02,151 --> 01:23:04,471
And the effects
he was looking at
1598
01:23:04,471 --> 01:23:09,351
were five different effects
on the nervous system.
1599
01:23:13,631 --> 01:23:16,231
NARRATOR: These five
separate descriptions show
1600
01:23:16,231 --> 01:23:18,911
that the writers of the patent
knew that the drug acted
1601
01:23:18,911 --> 01:23:20,911
on the nervous system
in such a way
1602
01:23:20,911 --> 01:23:23,351
that it caused a slowing down
of muscle movements,
1603
01:23:23,351 --> 01:23:25,671
creating a sedating effect.
1604
01:23:25,671 --> 01:23:28,111
It reduced the metabolism,
heartbeat,
1605
01:23:28,111 --> 01:23:30,671
circulatory
and digestive systems
1606
01:23:30,671 --> 01:23:34,351
with effects
on the immune system.
1607
01:23:34,351 --> 01:23:36,711
JOHNSON:
There was no legal way
1608
01:23:36,711 --> 01:23:40,151
in which they could've tested
this chemical on humans
1609
01:23:40,151 --> 01:23:41,871
before they wrote this patent.
1610
01:23:41,871 --> 01:23:43,831
And in any event,
in postwar Germany,
1611
01:23:43,831 --> 01:23:45,871
that would've been illegal.
1612
01:23:47,911 --> 01:23:49,991
Although we have
no direct evidence
1613
01:23:49,991 --> 01:23:52,751
that thalidomide was used
or tested in the camps,
1614
01:23:52,751 --> 01:23:55,231
there is a lot
of circumstantial evidence,
1615
01:23:55,231 --> 01:23:57,991
and one of the startling
stories we heard
1616
01:23:57,991 --> 01:24:01,670
was from the mother
of one of our thalidomiders.
1617
01:24:01,670 --> 01:24:03,670
SINCLAIR:
It was my brother-in-law
1618
01:24:03,670 --> 01:24:05,590
who was one of the first
1619
01:24:05,590 --> 01:24:10,430
into Belsen Concentration Camp,
who liberated them.
1620
01:24:12,230 --> 01:24:15,590
It was only nearing the end
of his life that he said,
1621
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:18,630
"You know,
that's where I saw babies
1622
01:24:18,630 --> 01:24:22,070
with deformities
like thalidomide."
1623
01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:24,750
He said, "Some were living,
only just,
1624
01:24:24,750 --> 01:24:26,790
and others were very dead."
1625
01:24:26,790 --> 01:24:29,110
But he says, "They had been
1626
01:24:29,110 --> 01:24:32,990
obviously giving it to
the mothers of these children."
1627
01:24:34,630 --> 01:24:37,590
REPORTER: This is the doctor
in charge of the female section
1628
01:24:37,590 --> 01:24:41,030
of the concentration camp,
Bergen-Belsen.
1629
01:24:41,030 --> 01:24:42,430
(woman speaking German)
1630
01:24:42,430 --> 01:24:44,350
She adds that various
medical experiments
1631
01:24:44,350 --> 01:24:45,990
were made on the prisoners.
1632
01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:49,150
Doctors gave some of them
intravenous injections.
1633
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:54,270
And it was when we started
looking at the patents
1634
01:24:54,270 --> 01:24:58,390
for similar compounds
in the 1940s that we realized
1635
01:24:58,390 --> 01:25:02,429
that all of these drugs
were being tested
1636
01:25:02,429 --> 01:25:07,629
for their anti-convulsant
effects, and...
1637
01:25:07,629 --> 01:25:10,789
this... this made sense
1638
01:25:10,789 --> 01:25:14,109
only in an era
where people were trying
1639
01:25:14,109 --> 01:25:17,149
to find antidotes
for the nerve poisons.
1640
01:25:17,149 --> 01:25:19,749
MALE REPORTER: This clothing
will protect the wearer
1641
01:25:19,749 --> 01:25:22,589
from contact
with liquid nerve agent,
1642
01:25:22,589 --> 01:25:25,789
as well as
from nerve agent vapor.
1643
01:25:25,789 --> 01:25:28,589
And if symptoms of nerve agent
poisoning appear,
1644
01:25:28,589 --> 01:25:31,109
you have still another form
of protection:
1645
01:25:31,109 --> 01:25:33,709
your atropine injector.
1646
01:25:35,589 --> 01:25:37,949
This is to be used
only after symptoms
1647
01:25:37,949 --> 01:25:40,269
of nerve agent poisoning
appear.
1648
01:25:40,269 --> 01:25:43,189
NARRATOR:
Any potential antidote
1649
01:25:43,189 --> 01:25:45,589
to the nerve gasses would have
to have been designed
1650
01:25:45,589 --> 01:25:48,549
to temporarily deaden
the victim's nervous system.
1651
01:25:48,549 --> 01:25:52,429
However, this effect would have
catastrophic consequences
1652
01:25:52,429 --> 01:25:56,029
for a baby developing
in the womb.
1653
01:25:56,029 --> 01:25:59,869
JOHNSON: The way the drug
damaged the babies was acting
1654
01:25:59,869 --> 01:26:05,428
as a nerve poison,
and the thalidomide molecule
1655
01:26:05,428 --> 01:26:07,948
gets into the baby,
just as its nervous system
1656
01:26:07,948 --> 01:26:09,588
is starting to form,
1657
01:26:09,588 --> 01:26:12,188
and kills
the developing nerve end,
1658
01:26:12,188 --> 01:26:14,668
and it does it
with great precision.
1659
01:26:14,668 --> 01:26:17,108
(heart beating)
1660
01:26:17,108 --> 01:26:20,868
The nervous system begins
developing around day 20,
1661
01:26:20,868 --> 01:26:24,148
so, on day 20 to 21,
1662
01:26:24,148 --> 01:26:28,148
uh, the-the baby is liable
to have severe brain damage.
1663
01:26:29,988 --> 01:26:31,948
Then at day 21
1664
01:26:31,948 --> 01:26:33,948
to 22,
1665
01:26:33,948 --> 01:26:36,228
it may remove one
or both of the eyes
1666
01:26:36,228 --> 01:26:39,348
and damage the remaining eye.
1667
01:26:39,348 --> 01:26:42,868
And at 23,
it'll take away the hearing.
1668
01:26:42,868 --> 01:26:45,188
And it may remove the ears,
1669
01:26:45,188 --> 01:26:48,828
it may damage the inner ear,
the middle ear,
1670
01:26:48,828 --> 01:26:53,708
the outer ear, and it may
do those in random combinations.
1671
01:26:55,148 --> 01:26:59,028
And around day 24, it will
begin removing the arm system,
1672
01:26:59,028 --> 01:27:02,348
so it begins with
a complete removal of the arms,
1673
01:27:02,348 --> 01:27:06,227
until by 28, it'll just be
damage to the hands and wrists.
1674
01:27:06,227 --> 01:27:11,027
And around day 30, it'll be
the removal of the legs,
1675
01:27:11,027 --> 01:27:12,627
or severe damage to the legs,
1676
01:27:12,627 --> 01:27:14,867
down to day 35,
1677
01:27:14,867 --> 01:27:18,507
where it will be moderate damage
to the legs and feet.
1678
01:27:18,507 --> 01:27:23,507
So, thalidomide attacks
the embryo
1679
01:27:23,507 --> 01:27:26,267
almost with the precision
of a sniper's rifle,
1680
01:27:26,267 --> 01:27:29,907
with the effects
changing day by day.
1681
01:27:31,507 --> 01:27:33,427
NARRATOR:
So thalidomide was a by-product
1682
01:27:33,427 --> 01:27:37,227
of the Nazi chemical warfare
program.
1683
01:27:37,227 --> 01:27:39,427
It only stood out from
the other compounds developed
1684
01:27:39,427 --> 01:27:41,027
at the time because it acted
1685
01:27:41,027 --> 01:27:45,467
as an addictive sedative
that gave the user a high.
1686
01:27:45,467 --> 01:27:47,307
DANDILY (echoing):
So I took 'em, which you did.
1687
01:27:47,307 --> 01:27:49,187
They was good,
don't get me wrong.
1688
01:27:49,187 --> 01:27:51,707
They were smashing when I...
when I took 'em, you know?
1689
01:27:51,707 --> 01:27:53,867
I felt real good.
1690
01:27:53,867 --> 01:27:56,307
TELFORD TAYLOR: The crimes with
which these men are charged
1691
01:27:56,307 --> 01:27:57,667
were not committed in rage
1692
01:27:57,667 --> 01:27:59,307
or under the...
1693
01:27:59,307 --> 01:28:01,907
NARRATOR: Ambros was implicated
in serious war crimes
1694
01:28:01,907 --> 01:28:05,387
involving the deaths
of tens of thousands of people.
1695
01:28:05,387 --> 01:28:08,506
But by the time of
the Nuremberg trials in 1946,
1696
01:28:08,506 --> 01:28:12,426
the Allies were overwhelmed
by war criminals.
1697
01:28:12,426 --> 01:28:14,986
-Otto Ambros.
-Ambros.
1698
01:28:14,986 --> 01:28:18,146
NARRATOR: Although some
Nazi scientists were executed,
1699
01:28:18,146 --> 01:28:20,946
most punishments
were relatively lenient.
1700
01:28:20,946 --> 01:28:23,186
JOHNSON:
Otto Ambros could
1701
01:28:23,186 --> 01:28:27,186
no longer go and work in the
top companies in the industry,
1702
01:28:27,186 --> 01:28:30,906
and that's why they were working
around smaller businesses
1703
01:28:30,906 --> 01:28:33,266
like Grunenthal.
1704
01:28:34,426 --> 01:28:37,226
NARRATOR:
Inexplicably, in December 1970,
1705
01:28:37,226 --> 01:28:40,706
the judges at the trial of
executives of Chemie Grunenthal
1706
01:28:40,706 --> 01:28:42,386
suspended what was by then
1707
01:28:42,386 --> 01:28:46,106
the longest criminal trial
in German history.
1708
01:28:46,106 --> 01:28:49,026
After two and a half years
in court,
1709
01:28:49,026 --> 01:28:52,986
the accused were neither
exonerated nor found guilty.
1710
01:28:52,986 --> 01:28:55,866
The question
of criminal responsibility
1711
01:28:55,866 --> 01:28:58,466
has never been concluded.
1712
01:29:04,746 --> 01:29:08,506
The Page-Potter article
was finally completed
1713
01:29:08,506 --> 01:29:10,305
and the presses ready to roll,
1714
01:29:10,305 --> 01:29:13,385
but The Sunday Times were told
they couldn't publish,
1715
01:29:13,385 --> 01:29:17,065
and an injunction was issued
by the attorney general.
1716
01:29:17,945 --> 01:29:20,545
They appealed and won.
1717
01:29:20,545 --> 01:29:23,185
The case then went to
the House of Lords.
1718
01:29:23,185 --> 01:29:25,545
EVANS: So we're now
in the House of Lords,
1719
01:29:25,545 --> 01:29:27,785
and I'm sitting there
with my colleagues.
1720
01:29:27,785 --> 01:29:32,025
And the final conclusion
of the judge is the following--
1721
01:29:32,025 --> 01:29:35,385
just listen to this--
1722
01:29:35,385 --> 01:29:37,745
"The article will be banned.
1723
01:29:37,745 --> 01:29:41,545
"It is perfectly all right
for The Sunday Times
1724
01:29:41,545 --> 01:29:44,505
"to have conducted
a moral campaign,
1725
01:29:44,505 --> 01:29:47,145
"but it is illegal
to publish the facts
1726
01:29:47,145 --> 01:29:50,625
on which the moral campaign
was based."
1727
01:29:50,625 --> 01:29:55,385
So we've now lost
in the House of Lords.
1728
01:29:55,385 --> 01:29:58,145
So what do we do?
1729
01:29:58,145 --> 01:30:00,585
So we appeal to the European
Commission of Rights
1730
01:30:00,585 --> 01:30:06,385
that Harold Evans, representing
my colleagues, of course,
1731
01:30:06,385 --> 01:30:08,825
had been denied free speech
1732
01:30:08,825 --> 01:30:11,584
under Article 10
of the Human Rights Act.
1733
01:30:11,584 --> 01:30:15,224
So we then got in bumpy
airplane rides to Strasbourg
1734
01:30:15,224 --> 01:30:17,224
week after week after week
1735
01:30:17,224 --> 01:30:20,744
to argue the case
before the court.
1736
01:30:20,744 --> 01:30:23,624
And we won by...
really, by two votes.
1737
01:30:23,624 --> 01:30:25,104
FEMALE REPORTER:
Mr. Evans, just how significant
1738
01:30:25,104 --> 01:30:26,944
do you think
this judgment is today?
1739
01:30:26,944 --> 01:30:29,664
Tremendous. It's the most
important judgment for the...
1740
01:30:29,664 --> 01:30:31,304
not only for the freedom
of the press
1741
01:30:31,304 --> 01:30:34,104
but for the citizens' right
to know in England.
1742
01:30:34,104 --> 01:30:36,144
The most distinguished group
of judges have told
1743
01:30:36,144 --> 01:30:38,624
the British government,
"Reform the laws."
1744
01:30:38,624 --> 01:30:40,544
They've got to do it now.
1745
01:30:40,544 --> 01:30:43,904
That was Harry's
greatest achievement, I think,
1746
01:30:43,904 --> 01:30:47,104
to change British law in favor,
1747
01:30:47,104 --> 01:30:50,104
if you like,
of press freedom, in favor...
1748
01:30:50,104 --> 01:30:53,624
give more power
to the powerless, in a sense,
1749
01:30:53,624 --> 01:30:57,024
by enabling
investigative journalism
1750
01:30:57,024 --> 01:31:01,704
to continue
despite a gagging writ.
1751
01:31:01,704 --> 01:31:03,944
♪ ♪
1752
01:31:18,263 --> 01:31:20,463
(typewriter clacking)
1753
01:31:25,103 --> 01:31:27,223
EVANS:
The production is
1754
01:31:27,223 --> 01:31:28,663
superb today; we're well ahead.
1755
01:31:28,663 --> 01:31:31,303
Everything's pretty...
Well, everything is set.
1756
01:31:31,303 --> 01:31:34,543
Everybody who we wanted
to-to comment has said no,
1757
01:31:34,543 --> 01:31:36,543
and we'll say that
on the front page.
1758
01:31:36,543 --> 01:31:38,303
And in the meantime,
I must get on with this.
1759
01:31:38,303 --> 01:31:39,743
MAN: It's the right number
of words, is it?
1760
01:31:39,743 --> 01:31:41,423
I think it's over. I've...
1761
01:31:41,423 --> 01:31:45,383
My guess is that we're probably
two or three columns over.
1762
01:31:45,383 --> 01:31:48,943
But how can you deal
with ten years of nonsense
1763
01:31:48,943 --> 01:31:50,943
and silence and secrecy?
1764
01:31:50,943 --> 01:31:54,063
♪ ♪
1765
01:32:08,183 --> 01:32:09,943
(speaking indistinctly)
1766
01:32:09,943 --> 01:32:13,143
NARRATOR: The Insight team's
exposé of Distillers
1767
01:32:13,143 --> 01:32:15,342
was finally published.
1768
01:32:17,982 --> 01:32:20,702
It was the culmination
of a long battle
1769
01:32:20,702 --> 01:32:23,182
and a significant step
towards liberating
1770
01:32:23,182 --> 01:32:28,382
what Harry famously called
"the half-free press."
1771
01:32:30,142 --> 01:32:32,622
RUSBRIDGER: There's something
about the institutional weight
1772
01:32:32,622 --> 01:32:35,582
of a newspaper that has
to stand behind reporting,
1773
01:32:35,582 --> 01:32:39,502
and-and that is...
that is the fourth estate.
1774
01:32:39,502 --> 01:32:42,342
And I think that's-that's
the thing that I most fear
1775
01:32:42,342 --> 01:32:46,222
about the digital age,
is-is that you lose that
1776
01:32:46,222 --> 01:32:49,222
counterbalancing force of-of
what the institutional weight
1777
01:32:49,222 --> 01:32:51,982
of the press
standing behind reporting.
1778
01:32:51,982 --> 01:32:54,022
Uh, whether it's
against countries
1779
01:32:54,022 --> 01:32:56,102
or corporations or governments.
1780
01:32:56,102 --> 01:32:58,302
Uh, and, you know,
1781
01:32:58,302 --> 01:33:02,502
I think Harry Evans,
in some ways, embodies that.
1782
01:33:23,421 --> 01:33:25,741
NARRATOR:
In 2005, Harry was given
1783
01:33:25,741 --> 01:33:29,381
the post of editor-at-large
for Thomson Reuters,
1784
01:33:29,381 --> 01:33:31,101
the world's largest
news agency,
1785
01:33:31,101 --> 01:33:33,861
where he once again works
under the proprietorship
1786
01:33:33,861 --> 01:33:37,061
of the Thomson family.
1787
01:33:37,061 --> 01:33:38,941
EVANS:
Every newspaper editor's
1788
01:33:38,941 --> 01:33:43,061
face should be marked
with his features removed
1789
01:33:43,061 --> 01:33:45,941
and a big question mark
superimposed.
1790
01:33:45,941 --> 01:33:47,861
Does he have curiosity?
1791
01:33:50,061 --> 01:33:52,261
He needs to have a sense
of purpose.
1792
01:33:52,261 --> 01:33:55,421
What is he in the game for?
1793
01:33:56,221 --> 01:33:59,181
Is it to maximize money?
1794
01:33:59,181 --> 01:34:02,701
Is it to maximize
his own reputation?
1795
01:34:02,701 --> 01:34:03,901
What is it for?
1796
01:34:06,221 --> 01:34:10,181
Once it d... gets defined
by the making of money only--
1797
01:34:10,181 --> 01:34:13,581
let's say we need it,
we need to be sustained--
1798
01:34:13,581 --> 01:34:17,541
but once it's defined
by the making of money,
1799
01:34:17,541 --> 01:34:19,020
there are no inhibitions.
1800
01:34:19,020 --> 01:34:22,420
Anything that makes money,
he's justified.
1801
01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:28,020
To my way of thinking,
1802
01:34:28,020 --> 01:34:30,260
which sounds
a bit like a Boy Scout,
1803
01:34:30,260 --> 01:34:34,100
that's not a sufficient
definition of a good editor
1804
01:34:34,100 --> 01:34:35,820
and a sufficient guidance.
1805
01:34:43,700 --> 01:34:45,900
(indistinct chatter)
1806
01:34:48,020 --> 01:34:50,300
Yeah, she likes
having hers done.
1807
01:34:50,300 --> 01:34:51,820
I hate it.
1808
01:34:54,860 --> 01:34:57,580
EVANS:
This whole fantastic story
1809
01:34:57,580 --> 01:35:01,700
can only begin by my saying
to everybody here,
1810
01:35:01,700 --> 01:35:06,100
b-beginning first with the
mothers, whom we often think,
1811
01:35:06,100 --> 01:35:07,660
"Oh, they were the mothers."
1812
01:35:07,660 --> 01:35:09,940
Yeah, the mothers,
1813
01:35:09,940 --> 01:35:12,860
giving birth to you,
1814
01:35:12,860 --> 01:35:16,220
much as you were loved,
it was a shock.
1815
01:35:16,220 --> 01:35:19,380
And the fathers--
1816
01:35:19,380 --> 01:35:22,699
most of whom were good,
some of whom were not.
1817
01:35:22,699 --> 01:35:24,739
And, of course, you.
1818
01:35:24,739 --> 01:35:28,139
And I just think
it's absolutely astonishing
1819
01:35:28,139 --> 01:35:31,619
and amazing to me
1820
01:35:31,619 --> 01:35:34,939
that those babies I first saw
1821
01:35:34,939 --> 01:35:37,139
when I was editor
at The Northern Echo
1822
01:35:37,139 --> 01:35:42,059
are now here making lives.
1823
01:35:42,059 --> 01:35:46,139
So if we'd never won a penny
of compensation,
1824
01:35:46,139 --> 01:35:50,059
that would be an amazing reward.
1825
01:35:50,059 --> 01:35:52,539
So congratulations to you.
1826
01:35:52,539 --> 01:35:55,099
(applause)
1827
01:35:56,579 --> 01:35:58,459
ARGY:
He changed the dynamic
1828
01:35:58,459 --> 01:36:00,699
and the intention
of what was going on
1829
01:36:00,699 --> 01:36:04,139
in the rest of the world, where
the fault was with the parents.
1830
01:36:04,139 --> 01:36:05,899
You know,
countries were saying that,
1831
01:36:05,899 --> 01:36:07,419
"Well, the mothers took
the drug.
1832
01:36:07,419 --> 01:36:09,139
It's their fault
the children are like this."
1833
01:36:09,139 --> 01:36:11,539
But Harold Evans came along
and he said, "No,
1834
01:36:11,539 --> 01:36:13,579
"this is the fault
of the pharmaceutical companies,
1835
01:36:13,579 --> 01:36:15,139
and they're the ones
who must pay."
1836
01:36:15,139 --> 01:36:16,779
And he took the blame away
from the parents,
1837
01:36:16,779 --> 01:36:19,219
which is a massive thing,
because any parent
1838
01:36:19,219 --> 01:36:22,099
will always blame themselves for
the way their child turns out.
1839
01:36:22,099 --> 01:36:23,858
-Thank you so very much.
-(applause)
1840
01:36:23,858 --> 01:36:27,538
He took that responsibility
away and that guilt,
1841
01:36:27,538 --> 01:36:29,298
and he made it very clear
that it was
1842
01:36:29,298 --> 01:36:31,058
the pharmaceutical company,
Distillers,
1843
01:36:31,058 --> 01:36:33,218
and not the parents
who were at fault.
1844
01:36:33,218 --> 01:36:35,378
There was a Daily Mirror
front page...
1845
01:36:35,378 --> 01:36:36,738
GALVIN:
I will remember
1846
01:36:36,738 --> 01:36:39,138
as long as I live the day I read
1847
01:36:39,138 --> 01:36:41,378
in that paper about
that injunction, that writ,
1848
01:36:41,378 --> 01:36:43,098
and about
what they were going to do.
1849
01:36:43,098 --> 01:36:45,418
-It's here.
-He was determined
1850
01:36:45,418 --> 01:36:47,938
to take on the big boys. And,
you know, the bigger they are,
1851
01:36:47,938 --> 01:36:50,098
the harder the fall,
which he proved.
1852
01:36:50,098 --> 01:36:51,458
(Dominic speaks indistinctly)
1853
01:36:51,458 --> 01:36:53,618
He's only a little guy,
but, my God,
1854
01:36:53,618 --> 01:36:56,258
he is Mr. Perfection,
Mr. Sunday Times.
1855
01:36:56,258 --> 01:37:00,458
Without him, we didn't stand
a... we didn't stand a chance.
1856
01:37:02,018 --> 01:37:04,258
The ever complex,
1857
01:37:04,258 --> 01:37:07,098
multifaceted, changing,
1858
01:37:07,098 --> 01:37:12,018
thrilling nature
of the mosaic of news.
1859
01:37:12,018 --> 01:37:14,658
And that's
how I got into journalism.
1860
01:37:14,658 --> 01:37:17,698
♪ ♪
1861
01:37:41,177 --> 01:37:42,857
Let me make
the following statement
1862
01:37:42,857 --> 01:37:44,937
on behalf of the government.
1863
01:37:44,937 --> 01:37:50,617
I know many thalidomiders have
waited a long time for this.
1864
01:37:50,617 --> 01:37:53,697
It is agreed with
the National Advisory Council
1865
01:37:53,697 --> 01:37:56,897
of the Thalidomide Trust.
1866
01:37:56,897 --> 01:37:59,377
The government wishes to express
1867
01:37:59,377 --> 01:38:03,017
its sincere regret
and deep sympathy
1868
01:38:03,017 --> 01:38:06,657
for the injury and suffering
endured
1869
01:38:06,657 --> 01:38:09,697
by all those affected
when expectant mothers
1870
01:38:09,697 --> 01:38:14,657
took the drug thalidomide
between 1958 and 1961.
1871
01:38:14,657 --> 01:38:16,137
ARGY:
It was like
1872
01:38:16,137 --> 01:38:18,457
the world stood still;
everything just stopped
1873
01:38:18,457 --> 01:38:21,577
when Mike O'Brien,
the health minister,
1874
01:38:21,577 --> 01:38:23,977
started his statement of regret.
1875
01:38:23,977 --> 01:38:26,976
It was kind of like...
The only way I can describe it,
1876
01:38:26,976 --> 01:38:29,256
it's like everything went
into alignment.
1877
01:38:29,256 --> 01:38:33,096
The challenges
that many continue to endure,
1878
01:38:33,096 --> 01:38:35,856
often on a daily basis...
1879
01:38:35,856 --> 01:38:38,176
I'd waited my whole life
to hear this apology,
1880
01:38:38,176 --> 01:38:40,616
and finally I've heard it.
1881
01:38:41,736 --> 01:38:43,696
And then I flew out to New York
that night
1882
01:38:43,696 --> 01:38:45,376
on the 6:00 p.m. flight.
1883
01:38:45,376 --> 01:38:48,376
Next morning, I went banging
around to Harold Evans' house.
1884
01:38:48,376 --> 01:38:51,136
And it was so exciting,
because for everything
1885
01:38:51,136 --> 01:38:53,656
that Harold
had managed to do for us,
1886
01:38:53,656 --> 01:38:56,576
one thing he hadn't been able
to do was get that apology.
1887
01:38:56,576 --> 01:38:58,856
So we watched it together and we
just had our arms wrapped round
1888
01:38:58,856 --> 01:39:00,976
each other, and we were
just crying, staring at the...
1889
01:39:00,976 --> 01:39:03,136
at his little computer screen,
1890
01:39:03,136 --> 01:39:06,336
watching Mike O'Brien
make his apology.
1891
01:39:55,655 --> 01:39:58,335
♪ ♪
1892
01:40:27,655 --> 01:40:30,334
♪ ♪
1893
01:40:59,654 --> 01:41:02,334
♪ ♪
1894
01:41:28,414 --> 01:41:30,614
(music fades)
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