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- Chapter one...
- Oh, really? You're gonna lead with that?
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- With the black and the white and everything?
- Too much?
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Why are you avoiding
the question?
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I'm not avoiding
the question.
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I told you before; I like his films,
and he's extremely prolific.
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I just find him to be a tad inauthentic
and way too derivative of his influences.
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Yeah, I don't know
- you know... I... I...
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I sometimes think you don't like certain
things just because other people do.
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No. I just don't agree with the amount
of importance people place on winning awards.
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Yeah, but
awards are important.
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Yes, insomuch as winning them
can help get your next project funded,
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but you cannot judge art. There
are no bests, only favorites.
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I'm pretty sure some works
of art are better than others.
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Hey, let me ask you something: If you
knew you could make any film you wanted to...
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anything you wanted to make,
what would you write?
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I don't know, maybe something
about the troubling times we live in.
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- Which troubles specifically?
- Christ, take your pick...
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I mean, you got cops are shooting
unarmed black men at an alarming rate;
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you can't go to a movie theater without worrying
some psycho's going to shoot the place up;
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government's out of control;
education is pathetically low;
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women are still fighting
for equal pay;
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you got whole families that are starving in
the most food-wasting nation on the planet;
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and you got an income gap that makes
the Grand Canyon look like a divot.
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Yes, all very important subjects
which I would sadly do no justice;
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but I'm talking about something you
could shoot with very little money.
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- Oh, okay... like your films?
- Yes.
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Okay, so something
along the lines of this?
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If that's what
you found interesting.
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I don't think
I'd lead with this.
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I mean, empty shots
of Manhattan
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with the random dialogue floating over
them is just not exactly riveting.
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I'm not asking you
how you would start the film,
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I'm asking you what it would be about
overall. You know, in a nutshell?
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Why don't you just tell
me what you're working on?
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I'll tell you if I think
it's interesting.
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Okay, so far, all I know is it's
gonna be two guys walking around New York City,
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talking about their core belief on life,
love, etc, cut between two women,
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the main guy's girlfriend and her best
friend, discussing what's on their minds.
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So another
movie about you?
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Yeah, no... sort of...
I mean, not about me, but
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things I'm going through
or have gone through.
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Mmm, who's
playing you this time?
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In order to save the most money,
I figure I gotta play myself.
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Okay. Then can I play me?
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But,
you're not an actor.
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What acting? You said two guys walk
around the city talking to each other.
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We do that all the time.
How hard could that be?
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Yeah, okay,
we'll play ourselves.
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Wait, wait, wait... don't you think
that's going to be confusing to the audience?
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Why would it
be confusing?
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Because, we would be
in the beginning as ourselves,
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discussing how you're
going to make a film
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about these other guys who
we would also be playing.
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What are
you talking about?
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I... I wouldn't put us in the film
as ourselves and as characters.
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That would be absurd.
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I thought that's
what you were going for.
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I'm not Buñuel...
Although, that is an interesting concept:
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a guy tells his friend about a
film he's planning on making,
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but that discussion is actually the beginning
of the film and leads into the fictional story,
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in which two of those characters are
actually played by these same two guys.
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- But how would that work?
- I don't know.
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Have you thought of a title?
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Yeah, I've come up with some ideas
but I haven't settled on one just yet.
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How about,
TheNarcissists?
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Yeah... how 'bout I get
someone else to play you?
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Whatever you're planning
on titling it is just fine...
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Yeah, well, the title doesn't
exactly matter if I can't write it first.
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- You have writer's block?
- It's more like, what's the purpose of making anything
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in this meaningless
world block?
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Oh Christ, Oliver, I'm not in the mood
for an existential discussion right now.
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Well, it's
a tad unavoidable
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being as that I'm in the midst
of an existential crisis.
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Yeah, but you're always in
the midst of an existential crisis.
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It's like your single most
defining characteristic.
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Yeah, because life is
totally meaningless and terrible,
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and we're all
gonna die one day.
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And... and don't get me started
on where goose down comes from.
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Listen, I know what you're trying
to do, and believe me, you're much saner,
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you're much happier, with Cassi,
so you need to fight for her.
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She cheated on me.
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Big deal, she made out with
an ex-boyfriend a few times.
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Yeah, and
they almost had sex!
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But, they didn't.
And almost sex isn't sex.
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And, would it be that big a
deal if they had fucked?
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Oh, well, when you
put it to me that way, yeah -
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I mean, tell me the truth, were you
really that surprised when she confessed?
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What are you implying?
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It's just that, you've broken up, what,
twice in the five years you've been together?
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It's not exactly like you had
the perfect relationship.
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Oh, oh, oh... so... so now you're
saying that I'm somehow responsible
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for Cassi's cheating on me.
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Six months ago you told me that
you guys were barely having sex.
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That she wanted to but you
weren't feeling it, or some shit.
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No. That... that -
that's the natural ebb and flow of passion
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in long term relationships.
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Yeah, well, some people need
to make love to their partner
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in order to feel actually loved.
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- Since when did you become Dr. Ruth?
- Hey, I observe.
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I see what's going on in the world,
I just don't want any part of it.
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And, I'm just pointing out
that you do still love Cassi,
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and you need to do what you can to
work things out with her. That's all.
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That's why we're apart.
I'm figuring it all out.
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Yeah, well, don't take too long.
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I can't, ha... Have you not been
listening to me?! I can't take too long.
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We have to figure out whether or
not we're gonna renew the lease,
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because neither one of us can
afford the apartment on our own.
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- Forget the lease.
- Max, this is New York.
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- You're right. Take care of the lease.
- That's what we're doing.
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You know, my Uncle Maurice, he had a
homosexual relationship for four years,
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just so he could
have stabilized rent...
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Okay, okay,
alright... now look.
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Let me just finish telling you about the
story I've been working on, alright?
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Yeah.
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So Cassi's been staying at her
sister's house on the Upper West Side.
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When we first see her, she's walking up the
street to meet her best friend, Letty...
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Oh, thank God! Let
me have a drag... please.
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You're not
worried she'll see?
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A week ago I would have
said yes without hesitation.
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- But...?
- Just give me the cigarette.
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- Oh, wow... That bad, huh?
- Yeah...
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But believe me
it is not the couch.
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I didn't think
it was the couch.
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The couch is nicer than anything
Oliver and I have in our apartment.
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My sister, on the other hand...
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Same old Erin.
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It's as if... It's as if it's
not enough for her to be doing amazing,
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things have to be miserable for me in order
for her to truly enjoy her own success.
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Okay, well, my offer
still stands, so...
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Thank you.
I love you, but it's just easier this way.
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And, besides, if I
moved in with you now,
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my mother would be convinced
I were a lesbian.
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Yeah, but,
she knows you're not, so...
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Yeah, but she's
not so sure about you.
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Really?
You never told me that.
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I've never
been this tired.
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Well, did
she tell you why?
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Is it the way, I don't know...
is the way I dress or how I talk?
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Is it my haircut or something?
Like, what...
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Nah, I think it has more to do
with the fact that we are now thirty
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and you still
remain autonomous.
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I'm not a country.
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I thought it sounded better than
"perpetually single."
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Yeah, well that's a choice, because
relationships are bullshit and don't work.
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I mean, hello.
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Okay, believe me, the
irony is not wasted on me...
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but, I mean, I'm just...
That's my mom.
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Anyway, at this point, I wish I were
a lesbian, just to freak her out.
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So, Debbie's
being Debbie.
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No, Debbie's
being El Diablo.
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Still better than my
mom, El No Show.
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And, she's so down on Oliver, like
it's as if she's in the relationship with him.
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Didn't I tell you from the beginning
that I thought she was way too keen on him?
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Yeah, well
now it's the opposite.
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It's the same thing.
You can't hate someone you don't truly love.
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Don't be ridiculous. That would
mean that every Jew really loves Hitler.
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- Okay, let me rephrase that...
- Yeah...
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There's a certain
kind of frustration and anger
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that comes only with
those whom you truly love.
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And the worst part is, I haven't
told her that this is all my own doing,
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so her anger at Oliver
instantly becomes my guilt.
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Yeah, well, forget
about how your mom feels,
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you have to figure out
what you want to do.
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- Can't you do it?
- Believe me, you don't want me doing it.
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I'm seriously stuck.
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Okay, let's just... let's...
let's figure out where we're gonna eat
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and start walking
in that direction.
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Well, I was thinking we could walk
down to the Crosby, or somewhere else in SoHo?
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Ugh, no, babe... I'm not walking
eighty blocks just to eat lunch.
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Let's just, let's
just stay nearby.
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It's so nice out, it'll
be beautiful down there.
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Yeah, but
it's nice here too.
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Let's just, okay, let's just go to
Whole Foods and sit in the park.
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No, no, no... I'm sick of staying
above 58th. My creativity is waning.
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Wow, you're having
hipster withdrawal.
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I live in Brooklyn
Heights, not Bushwick.
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Let's just... let's
just go Upper East.
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No, Letty, I am not... I don't want to
be surrounded by spoiled, snobby housewives.
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No, you'd rather be around spoiled,
snobby college kids and nameless models.
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But, if we go Upper East,
by the time we're done, I'll already be home.
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Oh, gee, thanks.
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You know what I mean.
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Letty, please,
can we just walk a bit and eat downtown?
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I really need
a change of scenery.
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Fine, but let's just,
let's walk to the seventy-second station
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and take the subway from there. Otherwise I
will be over-walked by the time we get downtown.
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Awe, your precious feet.
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Oh, fuck you!
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There she is!
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- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa...
- Hit... hit that.
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What are you doing, man?
You can't just smoke that shit anywhere.
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Dude, it's not nineteen-ninety anymore.
Everybody smokes pot.
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Everybody
doesn't smoke pot.
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Everybody
does smoke pot!
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And this is an electronic atomizer,
so you can't smell what I'm smoking.
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Trust me, people just
assume it's tobacco.
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Okay, look, look,
look, look, look...
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Nobody assumes it's tobacco and you look
like you're sucking on a plastic dick.
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So you're gay bashing now?
You, of all people?
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What? No, I'm not gay bashing.
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And, what do you mean,
me "of all people?"
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No, no, I'm just... you know,
I'm merely pointing out,
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that with your history
of sexual experimentation,
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you might not want to use fellatio
as an insult. That's all.
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Okay, look, note taken. But please,
Max, just put the fucking pipe away.
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Okay, look... I'm gonna assume this
is all stress related to Cassi, okay?
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I'm not take any offense, and look,
putting the fucking pipe away right now.
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- Thank you...
- But, I just want to go on record,
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saying that if you
took a few puffs of that,
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it's gonna fix all
of your problems.
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You know that I quit smoking
because it gave me panic attacks.
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You had one lousy attack
four years ago.
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If you just try smoking a little bit,
it probably wouldn't happen again.
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Let me ask you something:
why did you want to hang out with me today?
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Because, you seemed
really down last night, okay?
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And I just want to make
sure you're all right.
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I mean, is that alright?
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Is it okay that I want to be here for my
best friend in his time of need, huh?
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My buddy, my paisan...
221
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My prairie home companion.
222
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Okay. All right, yes.
223
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It's just, you know... sometimes
you're a little strange.
224
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- Oh, I'm strange?
- Yeah...
225
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Well, listen: uh, you know, I'm not the
one picking a fight with his best friend
226
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because he decided to be
nice, hang out with you,
227
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walk around the city, talk about your
troubles, forget your problems...
228
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I think that's a little odd.
229
00:11:15,383 --> 00:11:18,717
You're right, I'm sorry. I don't
mean to attack you. It's just,
230
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I'm freaking out lately, you
know... I, I... I apologize...
231
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Thank you.
232
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But I really do think if
you took a few puffs...
233
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I'm not even responding to that.
234
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- It's... I don't know what to say to you anymore.
- Come on, dude.
235
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- It's ridiculous.
- I'm just saying, bro. it's medicinal.
236
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Okay, come on,
Smokey. Let's go.
237
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Weirdo.
238
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So, I had an
epiphany recently.
239
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Oh, please, not another
insight about my relationship.
240
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It's not about you guys, but it
does relate to human beings as a whole.
241
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Alright, just spit it
out so we can move on.
242
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Okay, I was watching the
news and thinking about human beings
243
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and how we have behaved since the beginning of civilized time.
244
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And basically, it seems to me,
that we haven't changed at all.
245
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The only things that have truly evolved
are technologies and medicines.
246
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Just machinery and health.
247
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But, if you think about, I
don't know, any slice of time,
248
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any hundred to five hundred
year period over the past
249
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five thousand years,
the general patterns would be the same:
250
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war over here; someone trying to
dominate the world over there;
251
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famine on this side; power
struggles over there
252
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and, most people just going along with
whatever the times have to offer.
253
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It's almost as if it's human nature to
be this way, as if it's in our DNAs.
254
00:12:41,844 --> 00:12:44,962
Yes, it... most people can be
shoved into one category or another;
255
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that's what makes
us so predictable.
256
00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:49,512
Exactly. Which lead me to
thinking about you and Oliver...
257
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And, there it is.
258
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And, while he has
definitely stepped it up,
259
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been supportive,
committed, and loyal,
260
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ultimately, he's never stayed
in a relationship this long.
261
00:12:58,987 --> 00:13:03,482
So, my problems, the
things I've done to him, to us,
262
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are actually manifestation
of my own intuitions
263
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that he would ultimately
fail the relationship?
264
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Sort of...
More like, hurt him before he hurts you.
265
00:13:13,751 --> 00:13:15,688
I mean, I'm not saying you don't
have to own your own fuck ups,
266
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but at least you can understand
them and stop beating yourself up.
267
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I am what I am.
268
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Exactly.
269
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So, I just have
to blame him?
270
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You know what I mean.
271
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I do, but I think
it's inaccurate.
272
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Oh, another thing I was
thinking of was statistics.
273
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Christ!
274
00:13:31,812 --> 00:13:33,247
Well, you know how people say,
"I quit drinking
275
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because I didn't want to
end up a statistic?"
276
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Yeah...?
277
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Well, they're
still a statistic.
278
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They're just on the positive
side of the spectrum.
279
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You can't have a negative
without a positive.
280
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I never thought
about it that way.
281
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Yeah... talk to Oliver.
282
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We're seeing each other tomorrow
to discuss the lease
283
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and whether or not
to renew, or break up.
284
00:13:50,246 --> 00:13:52,308
Well, good, at least you can
put your anxieties to bed.
285
00:13:52,332 --> 00:13:54,039
And, move on to second guessing.
286
00:13:55,084 --> 00:13:58,122
Okay, Cass, I know I say a lot of
stupid shit and we fuck around a lot,
287
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but I'm worried about you.
288
00:14:00,256 --> 00:14:03,215
I know. Thank you. I love you.
289
00:14:03,301 --> 00:14:08,262
But this just needs time.
And, unfortunately, I don't have any.
290
00:14:14,604 --> 00:14:15,884
Whatever
happened to Sarah?
291
00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:19,376
No idea. I stopped talking to her
five years ago, when I moved in with Cassi.
292
00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,107
Yeah, yeah, I know, but why?
293
00:14:21,194 --> 00:14:24,983
Because, I told you, Cassi doesn't
trust any women that I've been with...
294
00:14:25,656 --> 00:14:27,568
And, actually, a few
that I haven't been.
295
00:14:27,658 --> 00:14:29,553
So, what you're really saying
is, she doesn't trust you.
296
00:14:29,577 --> 00:14:31,489
No, you see, you just
don't get relationships.
297
00:14:31,579 --> 00:14:33,411
What's to get?
You meet an individual,
298
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you fall in love with them because
they are uniquely different than you,
299
00:14:35,833 --> 00:14:37,853
then do your best to change them
into a variation of yourself
300
00:14:37,877 --> 00:14:40,290
until you resent each other
and you're fucking miserable.
301
00:14:40,380 --> 00:14:41,607
So maybe you do
get relationships.
302
00:14:41,631 --> 00:14:44,294
Anyway, I wasn't asking why you
didn't remain friends with Sarah
303
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after getting together
with Cassi,
304
00:14:45,426 --> 00:14:47,488
I was wondering why you originally
stopped talking with her?
305
00:14:47,512 --> 00:14:49,754
And I thought, also,
that she cheated on you.
306
00:14:49,847 --> 00:14:51,713
No, no, see, not physically.
307
00:14:51,808 --> 00:14:55,677
Or, she wouldn't admit to it,
but, you know, other stuff.
308
00:14:55,770 --> 00:14:57,136
- Uh-huh...
- You see.
309
00:14:57,939 --> 00:14:59,555
This is becoming your pattern.
310
00:14:59,649 --> 00:15:00,834
Okay, I don't want
to talk about it.
311
00:15:00,858 --> 00:15:03,212
Oh, come on dude, you really
gotta learn to compartmentalize.
312
00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:06,006
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, says the
guy whose strongest personality trait
313
00:15:06,030 --> 00:15:07,758
is most aligned with that
of a sociopath's...
314
00:15:07,782 --> 00:15:08,926
Well, if you want
to be accurate,
315
00:15:08,950 --> 00:15:11,136
it's more closely aligned with
that of a psychotic's, but...
316
00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,028
- Oh, apologies...
- I think I'm gonna try to fuck that barista.
317
00:15:14,122 --> 00:15:16,034
And, I take that apology back.
318
00:15:16,124 --> 00:15:17,924
No, no, I'm serious man.
She's something else.
319
00:15:18,418 --> 00:15:20,626
- Who, Janie?
- Is that her name?
320
00:15:20,711 --> 00:15:22,247
- The woman who just served us?
- Yeah.
321
00:15:22,338 --> 00:15:23,454
Yes. Janie.
322
00:15:23,548 --> 00:15:25,164
Really? I thought it was Pamela.
323
00:15:25,258 --> 00:15:28,342
It's not. And, please,
don't hook up with Janie.
324
00:15:28,428 --> 00:15:29,760
You know I can't
promise you that.
325
00:15:29,846 --> 00:15:34,762
God, please don't. Look... she knows we're
friends, okay? She sees me every morning.
326
00:15:34,851 --> 00:15:35,851
So what?
327
00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:38,539
So, you're gonna screw things up and I'm
gonna have to find a new coffee shop
328
00:15:38,563 --> 00:15:40,563
just like I had to find
a new taco stand last year.
329
00:15:40,606 --> 00:15:43,269
I did you a fucking favor, dude.
Those tacos were garbage!
330
00:15:43,359 --> 00:15:45,379
And, besides, there's like,
uh, thirty-five coffee shops
331
00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:46,588
in a twelve-block radius
of your apartment.
332
00:15:46,612 --> 00:15:48,023
Seven of which alone
are Starbucks.
333
00:15:48,114 --> 00:15:51,009
Okay, look, look, look, look.
Let me just put it to you this way, alright?
334
00:15:51,033 --> 00:15:53,150
They know me there,
alright? I like it.
335
00:15:53,244 --> 00:15:55,156
- Uh-huh.
- They give me free coffees,
336
00:15:55,246 --> 00:15:58,080
and I like it, and it's
comfortable, okay?
337
00:15:58,166 --> 00:16:01,534
- So... so what, that makes Jenny off limits?
- Oh my God, it's Janie!
338
00:16:01,627 --> 00:16:05,416
Dude, it could be fucking Marsha for all I
care... I don't care, she's fucking hot!
339
00:16:05,506 --> 00:16:06,525
Oh, oh, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah...
340
00:16:06,549 --> 00:16:10,839
That's right, see. Why do you feel the need to
put your dick in every pretty girl you meet?
341
00:16:10,928 --> 00:16:12,906
Dude, it's not just pretty
girls, I don't discriminate...
342
00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:15,297
I go after whoever turns me on
- whoever turns me on...
343
00:16:15,391 --> 00:16:18,509
You remember that, uh, big girl Samara
with the funny face and the fat rolls?
344
00:16:18,603 --> 00:16:20,164
- Yeah, yeah, fat Samara.
- Fat Samara...
345
00:16:20,188 --> 00:16:23,056
I used to take Vaseline, put it on
her back fat and fold it around my...
346
00:16:23,149 --> 00:16:24,107
Okay! Alright.
347
00:16:24,108 --> 00:16:28,648
I get the point, alright?
Now just, please, stay away from Janine.
348
00:16:30,615 --> 00:16:31,573
Okay.
349
00:16:31,574 --> 00:16:32,492
I see.
350
00:16:32,493 --> 00:16:33,824
What? See what?
351
00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:38,450
Oh-kay. You know your futile attempt to
dissuade me now made complete fucking sense.
352
00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:41,122
You got a crush on Janet.
353
00:16:41,209 --> 00:16:44,668
Oh my god, it's Janie!
354
00:16:44,754 --> 00:16:47,246
Not Janet,
not Janine, not Jenny...
355
00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:48,132
Janie!
356
00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:49,193
You're like in love
with this chick, bro.
357
00:16:49,217 --> 00:16:53,131
Oh, my fucking... would you just - you're
fucking doing this to make me crazy. It's, I...
358
00:16:53,221 --> 00:16:55,508
- I'm... I... Fuck!
- Why can't you just be honest?
359
00:16:56,057 --> 00:16:57,264
- No more!
- Just be honest!
360
00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:59,091
- No more...
- Hey, I'll stay away.
361
00:17:01,145 --> 00:17:03,262
I had computer sex
with Zane yesterday.
362
00:17:03,356 --> 00:17:08,522
What? Letty, come on.
I thought you said he had a girlfriend.
363
00:17:08,611 --> 00:17:09,977
What? It's not cheating.
364
00:17:10,905 --> 00:17:14,569
What are you mean? Of course it's cheating.
He had sex with another person.
365
00:17:14,659 --> 00:17:17,527
Cybersex. There's a difference.
366
00:17:17,620 --> 00:17:19,828
I don't think his girlfriend
would see it that way.
367
00:17:19,914 --> 00:17:22,748
Well, lucky for me I don't give
a shit about his girlfriend.
368
00:17:23,668 --> 00:17:24,668
Not cool.
369
00:17:25,211 --> 00:17:28,830
But, regardless, why are you even
communicating at all with that asshole?
370
00:17:28,923 --> 00:17:30,835
You mean, that sexy asshole?
371
00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:32,416
He's a jerk!
372
00:17:32,510 --> 00:17:34,467
Yeah, with a big dick!
373
00:17:35,555 --> 00:17:38,548
Why does it always come down
to penis size with you?
374
00:17:38,641 --> 00:17:39,660
Because that's what I like.
375
00:17:39,684 --> 00:17:44,475
I mean, you prefer soft cuddles and
wooing whispers, and I like a big cock.
376
00:17:44,564 --> 00:17:49,275
And, I'm not talking about a generally
large penis. His dick is anaconda huge.
377
00:17:50,111 --> 00:17:52,774
In fact, once when we were
stoned and fucking around,
378
00:17:52,863 --> 00:17:55,025
he pretended his dick
was a boa constrictor
379
00:17:55,116 --> 00:17:57,574
and wrapped it clear
around the cat's neck.
380
00:17:58,286 --> 00:18:00,243
Oh, my god!
381
00:18:00,997 --> 00:18:05,412
Yeah. It was funny until the cat got
scared and dug its claws into the shaft.
382
00:18:06,794 --> 00:18:09,878
You know, you don't know how much blood
is flowing through one of those things
383
00:18:09,964 --> 00:18:13,924
until you see ten little puncture wounds
pulsating to the beat of a man's heart.
384
00:18:14,802 --> 00:18:15,838
Letty!
385
00:18:16,304 --> 00:18:18,341
What? It's really,
really, really big.
386
00:18:18,431 --> 00:18:21,048
Okay. I get it. I get it.
387
00:18:22,977 --> 00:18:27,438
And, I might add, it's just cybersex.
I mean, Oliver masturbates to porn.
388
00:18:27,898 --> 00:18:31,391
And, that bothers me for a
whole slew of other reasons,
389
00:18:31,485 --> 00:18:33,898
but this is totally different
and you know it.
390
00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:36,612
Why, because I'm a real person?
391
00:18:37,575 --> 00:18:40,989
No, because he knows you.
And, because he's your fucking ex!
392
00:18:41,078 --> 00:18:42,910
And, because it's just wrong.
393
00:18:42,997 --> 00:18:47,367
Wha... why does... why does... why is it wrong?
Why does it have to be an issue of morality?
394
00:18:47,460 --> 00:18:50,020
Well, if it's not wrong,
then why doesn't he tell his girlfriend?
395
00:18:50,087 --> 00:18:52,249
Because she'd freak
out and be insecure.
396
00:18:52,340 --> 00:18:55,003
Yeah, and she'd leave
him and hate you.
397
00:18:55,092 --> 00:18:59,211
Well, I don't give a shit if she'd hate me,
and I don't think she'd leave.
398
00:19:00,389 --> 00:19:05,384
Well, you should give a shit. And you told me
that it wasn't even technically a relationship
399
00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:08,391
when you were together,
that you were free to date other people.
400
00:19:09,106 --> 00:19:11,814
Yeah, that I was free to date
other people, not Zane.
401
00:19:12,735 --> 00:19:14,101
And, Zane was okay with that?
402
00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:16,607
Why would I have
ever told him that?
403
00:19:17,740 --> 00:19:21,825
Oh, how could I have forgotten?
You have that don't ask don't tell policy.
404
00:19:22,495 --> 00:19:24,578
I might add that if you
had the same policy,
405
00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:26,747
you and Oliver wouldn't be
in this pickle you're in.
406
00:19:27,792 --> 00:19:33,004
Okay, first of all, I didn't fuck Charlie,
we only shared a few innocent kisses.
407
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,424
Cass, if you're going
to lie, don't do it to me.
408
00:19:38,928 --> 00:19:39,928
I'm not lying.
409
00:19:41,097 --> 00:19:43,430
You told me
Charlie fingered you.
410
00:19:43,516 --> 00:19:47,635
Even by my standards that's a tad more
intimate than a few innocent kisses.
411
00:19:47,728 --> 00:19:50,311
Okay, can you please...
Don't remind me.
412
00:19:50,398 --> 00:19:54,392
I have nothing but shame and remorse
for my actions those evenings.
413
00:19:55,027 --> 00:19:56,484
Well, that's why
you're in a pickle.
414
00:19:57,196 --> 00:19:58,882
Well, if the only reason
I wasn't in a pickle
415
00:19:58,906 --> 00:20:00,989
was because I was sleeping
with whoever I wanted to,
416
00:20:01,075 --> 00:20:03,783
behind my partners back,
then I'd be in a whole other pickle.
417
00:20:04,453 --> 00:20:08,788
And, Oliver didn't find out because I told
him, he found out because he found evidence.
418
00:20:08,874 --> 00:20:12,083
And, more importantly, I don't
want to be in a relationship
419
00:20:12,169 --> 00:20:14,877
with someone I don't wholly want
to be in a relationship with.
420
00:20:16,090 --> 00:20:17,810
Okay then, you don't
want to be with Oliver?
421
00:20:18,426 --> 00:20:20,713
That's not what I'm saying.
You're twisting my words.
422
00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:23,336
I'm talking about your actions.
423
00:20:23,973 --> 00:20:26,807
- Yes, I fucked up!
- More than once.
424
00:20:26,892 --> 00:20:29,225
Yes, okay, so I'm not
perfect. We know this.
425
00:20:29,687 --> 00:20:31,349
But, you're too
hard on yourself.
426
00:20:31,439 --> 00:20:32,725
And, you're too easy.
427
00:20:33,607 --> 00:20:34,848
Said the girl in a pickle.
428
00:20:36,736 --> 00:20:39,979
You... you can't go through life not
taking responsibility for your actions,
429
00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:41,813
especially when
they hurt someone.
430
00:20:44,785 --> 00:20:48,199
I don't care. I don't really give a
shit about what people think, I mean,
431
00:20:48,289 --> 00:20:51,017
I just do whatever I want,
and I don't give a shit about consequences.
432
00:20:51,041 --> 00:20:52,953
Okay, well, that's the
crux of your issues.
433
00:20:53,043 --> 00:20:56,502
And I promise you, if Zane's girlfriend knew,
she would leave him.
434
00:20:56,589 --> 00:20:58,046
Yeah, that's why
he doesn't tell her.
435
00:20:58,883 --> 00:21:01,000
You've gotta stop this.
436
00:21:01,093 --> 00:21:04,177
It's fucking Zane and some
twat he met on Tinder.
437
00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:07,677
Yeah, well you don't know this twat, and
she probably didn't know you were together
438
00:21:07,767 --> 00:21:11,135
when she met him, and she
could be a very nice person.
439
00:21:11,896 --> 00:21:13,478
Then I'd be doing her a favor.
440
00:21:14,398 --> 00:21:19,143
Letty, do you understand how
backwards that thinking is?
441
00:21:20,905 --> 00:21:21,905
I mean...
442
00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:25,440
Okay, not that I should be
lecturing anyone on relationships.
443
00:21:25,534 --> 00:21:28,368
I'm aware of the hypocrisy.
444
00:21:29,246 --> 00:21:33,206
It's always easy to see other people's problems.
It's what informs us to work on ourselves.
445
00:21:33,292 --> 00:21:35,705
We are but mirrors
to one another's flaws.
446
00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:38,621
Did Guru Dan tell you that?
447
00:21:39,381 --> 00:21:41,543
No, I quit that class
a month ago.
448
00:21:42,092 --> 00:21:43,628
Wait, you never told me that.
449
00:21:44,261 --> 00:21:48,221
Yeah, I saw Guru Dan feeling some
twenty-one-year old's perfect tits
450
00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,264
while repositioning her.
451
00:21:50,392 --> 00:21:51,974
What a pervert.
452
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,184
I'd agree, but I think just deep down
I was jealous he never did that to me.
453
00:21:56,774 --> 00:21:59,232
- Letty.
- What? It's true.
454
00:22:00,569 --> 00:22:01,849
Well that explains the cybersex.
455
00:22:01,904 --> 00:22:04,897
Yeah? So what explains
the fingering?
456
00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:08,283
Okay, can we...
457
00:22:09,078 --> 00:22:10,239
Can we just walk on?
458
00:22:18,212 --> 00:22:20,249
Never trust anyone
who quotes the Bible.
459
00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:21,339
Like a politician?
460
00:22:21,423 --> 00:22:24,507
No, never trust a politician,
period. But never trust anyone:
461
00:22:24,593 --> 00:22:26,550
teachers, advisers,
your parents,
462
00:22:26,637 --> 00:22:29,129
anyone who quotes anything
even biblical in nature.
463
00:22:29,223 --> 00:22:30,589
New Testament or Old?
464
00:22:30,683 --> 00:22:33,767
Any testament, any sect...
it doesn't even matter what religion.
465
00:22:33,853 --> 00:22:37,642
You're better off taking advice from
someone who quotes AliceinWonderland
466
00:22:37,731 --> 00:22:38,847
or "Hop On Pop."
467
00:22:38,941 --> 00:22:40,541
Is this what went
wrong with Marie?
468
00:22:40,776 --> 00:22:43,338
Why do you feel the need to go
over every one of my failed relationships
469
00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:45,042
each time I'm struggling
in my current one?
470
00:22:45,072 --> 00:22:47,384
I'm just trying to see where
it all goes wrong with my friend.
471
00:22:47,408 --> 00:22:49,115
It doesn't
all go wrong.
472
00:22:49,201 --> 00:22:52,069
Relationships are tricky.
In the case of Marie,
473
00:22:52,162 --> 00:22:54,654
it did have to do with
religious differences.
474
00:22:54,748 --> 00:22:56,309
So she didn't want
to be with an atheist?
475
00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:57,853
It was more
because of the kid.
476
00:22:57,877 --> 00:22:59,914
What kid? You guys
talked about having kids?
477
00:23:00,004 --> 00:23:02,065
I must have told you
I accidentally got her pregnant.
478
00:23:02,089 --> 00:23:03,089
No, you didn't.
479
00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:06,504
Yeah, well, it led to us
discussing how this child would be raised
480
00:23:06,594 --> 00:23:08,085
and I made it abundantly clear,
481
00:23:08,178 --> 00:23:10,658
no kid of mine would ever be
brainwashed with religious jargon,
482
00:23:10,723 --> 00:23:13,431
and especially not that
of the gospel variety.
483
00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:15,179
Oooff, she took
offense to this?
484
00:23:15,269 --> 00:23:16,309
To say the least.
485
00:23:16,896 --> 00:23:18,248
So what happened,
she miscarried?
486
00:23:18,272 --> 00:23:19,457
No, she
had an abortion.
487
00:23:19,481 --> 00:23:21,585
Wait, didn't we just established
the fact she was Christian?
488
00:23:21,609 --> 00:23:23,225
Max, don't be so naive.
489
00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:26,483
I mean, you know religious people
today are like bakers making cookies:
490
00:23:26,572 --> 00:23:29,110
If they don't like an ingredient
they just take it out.
491
00:23:29,199 --> 00:23:30,385
You must have been freaking out.
492
00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:32,651
Yeah, well, sadly, I had
been through that before.
493
00:23:33,621 --> 00:23:34,821
You got someone else pregnant?
494
00:23:35,122 --> 00:23:36,238
Three other people.
495
00:23:36,332 --> 00:23:38,494
- Three others people? So, four total?
- Yeah.
496
00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:43,375
I was really young, stupid and naive,
and irresponsible in my early twenties.
497
00:23:43,464 --> 00:23:47,128
I thought I got a chick pregnant once.
Turns out she was just constipated,
498
00:23:47,217 --> 00:23:49,738
had to take a huge shit. But, for like
two days, I was freaking the fuck out!
499
00:23:49,762 --> 00:23:52,505
Look, her turd ended up being so massive,
we actually named it.
500
00:23:52,598 --> 00:23:55,215
Listen, I don't want to hear about
your girlfriend's shit. Okay?
501
00:23:55,309 --> 00:23:57,704
- So, what, do you want to have a kid?
- I... I mean...
502
00:23:57,728 --> 00:24:02,098
It is something that Cassi and I have discussed,
but, we gotta see what comes of us first.
503
00:24:02,191 --> 00:24:03,773
But, do you
really want one?
504
00:24:03,859 --> 00:24:05,045
I don't know,
most of the time.
505
00:24:05,069 --> 00:24:07,277
I mean, I have to have
someone to leave my stuff to.
506
00:24:07,363 --> 00:24:10,356
- Your stuff?
- My money, or whatever I have.
507
00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:13,817
Fuck. Listen, Oliver.
I'm fucked up, okay? I admit it.
508
00:24:13,911 --> 00:24:18,406
Okay, I got very dark thoughts about life,
love, sexuality. I'm a masochist, a misogynist.
509
00:24:18,499 --> 00:24:22,038
I'm a flender. I'm pretty much the
last person to take real advice from,
510
00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:24,744
and to tell you the truth,
I think kids are fucking disgusting.
511
00:24:24,838 --> 00:24:27,080
But trust me when I tell
you that to have a child
512
00:24:27,174 --> 00:24:29,361
just to have someone to leave
your shit to who isn't a stranger
513
00:24:29,385 --> 00:24:30,987
- is gonna be severely damaging this child.
- No.
514
00:24:31,011 --> 00:24:34,300
You're not, look... I don't just wanna
have a kid to leave my stuff to,
515
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:37,327
I'm looking for meaning in my life,
you know, a reason to wake up every day.
516
00:24:37,351 --> 00:24:39,809
And, besides, Cassi wants
to have a child eventually.
517
00:24:39,895 --> 00:24:40,931
That's fucked up.
518
00:24:41,021 --> 00:24:42,762
No, that's the reason
people have kids;
519
00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:45,210
to give their otherwise sad
little lives meaning and purpose.
520
00:24:45,234 --> 00:24:49,353
I mean, do you think if anybody took five
minutes to think about the future ramifications
521
00:24:49,446 --> 00:24:52,905
that their child will one day have to
deal with, anybody would ever procreate?
522
00:24:52,992 --> 00:24:55,345
I mean, is this your argument for
having a kid or for not having one?
523
00:24:55,369 --> 00:24:56,655
Okay, look, uh.
524
00:24:56,745 --> 00:25:02,332
What I'm saying is that having a child seems
to change people's perspectives on lives.
525
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,873
And, maybe it's about time that I
changed mine. That's all, you know?
526
00:25:05,963 --> 00:25:06,839
Okay.
527
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,422
- Anyway...
- Alright.
528
00:25:13,721 --> 00:25:15,601
I told you I had
an abortion once, yeah?
529
00:25:16,890 --> 00:25:20,474
It was the worst. Not the physical pain,
just the emotional pain;
530
00:25:20,602 --> 00:25:23,015
and, the disappointing stares
from my grandparents.
531
00:25:23,105 --> 00:25:24,562
I can't even imagine.
532
00:25:24,648 --> 00:25:25,809
Yeah.
533
00:25:26,734 --> 00:25:32,401
Oh! Did I tell you I was uptown and I
saw April Menlow's name on a building?
534
00:25:32,489 --> 00:25:34,606
Wait, she's already
donating buildings?
535
00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:37,738
Yeah. It's as if she thinks
it'll bring her parents back.
536
00:25:38,412 --> 00:25:40,473
I'm pretty sure people do
that for their children's sake,
537
00:25:40,497 --> 00:25:42,113
not to bring back their
deceased parents.
538
00:25:42,207 --> 00:25:45,541
No. Uh-uh. They do it because
they're self-important pricks.
539
00:25:46,295 --> 00:25:48,787
You can't call everyone who
donates a building a prick.
540
00:25:48,881 --> 00:25:51,589
A lot of them are
honored posthumously
541
00:25:51,675 --> 00:25:53,528
and, for the most part, they're
very important buildings.
542
00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:56,511
Yeah, well, I'd be too embarrassed
to have my name on one.
543
00:25:57,723 --> 00:26:02,593
Wait, that would be embarrassing?
Out of all the things you've done in public,
544
00:26:02,686 --> 00:26:05,019
having your name on a building
would be embarrassing?
545
00:26:05,481 --> 00:26:09,395
Yeah I mean, I definitely don't give
a shit about leaving a legacy behind.
546
00:26:09,485 --> 00:26:11,602
I mean, you're here
and then you're gone,
547
00:26:11,695 --> 00:26:14,608
and no amount of buildings with
your name on it makes you immortal.
548
00:26:15,741 --> 00:26:17,761
I never realized you gave
the subject so much thought.
549
00:26:17,785 --> 00:26:19,697
Yeah, well, I think
about lots of shit.
550
00:26:21,246 --> 00:26:24,535
Hey, did I ever tell you that
in high school I was voted
551
00:26:24,666 --> 00:26:27,158
least likely to become
President?
552
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,458
Okay, a bit of a
non-sequitur, but I'll bite.
553
00:26:30,547 --> 00:26:32,755
Why did your school even
have that option available?
554
00:26:33,467 --> 00:26:35,959
I don't know. It's better than
what Joey Federini was voted:
555
00:26:36,053 --> 00:26:40,263
Most likely to suffer from
premature erectile dysfunction.
556
00:26:40,808 --> 00:26:43,801
What the hell was wrong
with your school yearbook?
557
00:26:43,894 --> 00:26:48,514
It wasn't the official school yearbook,
it was an off campus, underground weekly
558
00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:53,102
that usually concentrated its efforts on
destroying the carefully guarded reputations
559
00:26:53,195 --> 00:26:59,487
of mean teachers who also happened to
be closeted alcoholics or homosexuals.
560
00:27:00,661 --> 00:27:04,996
I thought it was hilarious back then,
but now I'm not so sure.
561
00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:10,581
Two different teachers resigned
after one particularly harsh issue.
562
00:27:10,712 --> 00:27:13,329
One of them sued the school and
the other tried to kill himself.
563
00:27:13,423 --> 00:27:15,005
Jesus! What was in it?
564
00:27:15,676 --> 00:27:18,836
Just your run of the mill, semi-warranted,
immature assaults on their character.
565
00:27:19,513 --> 00:27:24,008
And, a bunch of pictures of teachers with
the word "cunt" written on their foreheads.
566
00:27:25,144 --> 00:27:27,386
Still, that doesn't
sound like suicide bait.
567
00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:30,893
Oh, no, the teacher who tried
to kill himself, Mr. Dobbs,
568
00:27:31,441 --> 00:27:34,650
- was caught in his car during school hours, masturbating.
- Oh!
569
00:27:35,571 --> 00:27:37,062
What a creep!
570
00:27:37,156 --> 00:27:38,192
I don't know.
571
00:27:38,949 --> 00:27:42,613
It just... it just made me feel
sad for him, and lonely...
572
00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:48,369
Anyways, that was the first year
I fucked my English teacher.
573
00:27:49,877 --> 00:27:51,960
And it just keeps
on unraveling itself.
574
00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:56,335
I celebrated eight
years sober on Monday.
575
00:27:56,425 --> 00:28:01,090
Letty! That's amazing! Why
didn't you lead with that?
576
00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:03,137
Oh, you know
how I feel about it.
577
00:28:03,223 --> 00:28:05,636
Ugh! You should be
proud of yourself.
578
00:28:05,767 --> 00:28:10,512
No, trust me, I'm beyond grateful to be
sober, I just feel like... I don't know,
579
00:28:10,606 --> 00:28:12,876
I just feel like an addict celebrating
getting sober would be like
580
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:17,190
if an arsonist celebrating escaping from
a burning building that he set on fire.
581
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:20,863
No way. It's really awesome!
Lunch is on me today.
582
00:28:20,949 --> 00:28:22,281
No, please, let me buy.
583
00:28:22,367 --> 00:28:25,155
It reminds me that I only have
money because I'm not strung out.
584
00:28:25,245 --> 00:28:26,702
Then I'm buying
you dessert later.
585
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,282
Wow, well you know
my weakness.
586
00:28:30,375 --> 00:28:32,958
Really, desserts? I
thought it was large phalluses.
587
00:28:33,045 --> 00:28:36,834
Oh, well, what I wouldn't do
for a large, chocolate cock right now!
588
00:28:38,175 --> 00:28:40,292
I have only myself
to blame for that.
589
00:28:40,385 --> 00:28:44,345
They're so tasty! And the balls
are made from Cadbury cream eggs.
590
00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:46,798
Okay, now
you're just showing off.
591
00:28:49,770 --> 00:28:51,789
- But, do they really taste like that?
- Uh-huh.
592
00:28:54,858 --> 00:28:57,692
You ever try to last when
jerking off to some really good shit,
593
00:28:57,778 --> 00:29:00,578
as if it's a real person in the room
and you're trying to impress them?
594
00:29:00,656 --> 00:29:03,444
No. When I masturbate,
I just want the end result.
595
00:29:03,533 --> 00:29:05,695
Oh, you gotta
practice your edging, bro.
596
00:29:05,786 --> 00:29:08,848
- My what?
- Your edging. It's like, trying to control your pop.
597
00:29:08,872 --> 00:29:11,990
Okay. I can control
my pop just fine, thank you.
598
00:29:12,084 --> 00:29:15,122
Uh-huh. Forget it, man, you wouldn't
understand. It's a Tantric thing.
599
00:29:15,212 --> 00:29:18,876
Oh, what... you're suddenly some
kind of Kama Sutra, sex master?
600
00:29:18,966 --> 00:29:20,777
Did you see the girl
I was talking to last night?
601
00:29:20,801 --> 00:29:22,195
Are we still talking
about the same thing?
602
00:29:22,219 --> 00:29:24,980
Now just stop trying to beholden me
to your oppressive, linear values.
603
00:29:25,555 --> 00:29:27,575
Okay, I don't know what the fuck
you're talking about anymore.
604
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,370
Just answer the question: did you see the
girl I was talking to last night? Yes or no?
605
00:29:30,394 --> 00:29:33,432
I did see the girl.
She sat with us for forty-five minutes.
606
00:29:33,522 --> 00:29:34,522
And what did you think?
607
00:29:35,107 --> 00:29:39,067
I don't know, I didn't talk
to her. She was pretty.
608
00:29:39,152 --> 00:29:42,736
- That's it?
- Are you trying to get me to ask you what happened?
609
00:29:42,823 --> 00:29:45,031
- What do you mean what happened?
- Oh, my god.
610
00:29:45,117 --> 00:29:49,111
Yes, I walked her home.
No, I didn't fuck her.
611
00:29:49,204 --> 00:29:52,242
But I did make out with her,
and believe me, I'm gonna fuck her soon.
612
00:29:52,332 --> 00:29:54,540
Oh, great. Sounds good.
613
00:29:55,252 --> 00:29:56,086
You know what?
614
00:29:56,087 --> 00:29:58,249
Being in a relationship
for the past five years
615
00:29:58,338 --> 00:30:00,483
has made you forget what it's like
out there for the rest of us.
616
00:30:00,507 --> 00:30:03,966
No, I'm just not interested in
every single one of your exploits.
617
00:30:04,052 --> 00:30:06,214
Don't be a snob.
I'm your best friend
618
00:30:06,305 --> 00:30:07,824
and I'm just telling you
about a beautiful woman
619
00:30:07,848 --> 00:30:09,575
that I'm going to put my
erect penis into one day.
620
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:11,716
Oh, well, we all
have to have goals.
621
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:15,373
Yeah, well you judge now, but if you and Cassi
do break up, you're gonna see what it's like.
622
00:30:15,397 --> 00:30:18,310
Yeah. You know, can we talk about
something a tad more serious?
623
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,892
Like what? Those tiny little
indie films you love so much?
624
00:30:20,986 --> 00:30:22,588
- With the no budgets and no names?
- Yeah.
625
00:30:22,612 --> 00:30:26,947
I like them because they're the
purest films in cinema today.
626
00:30:27,576 --> 00:30:29,943
Don't you think that's just
like a slight exaggeration?
627
00:30:30,037 --> 00:30:34,498
No, no. I think as soon as too much of
somebody else's money gets involved,
628
00:30:34,583 --> 00:30:37,075
or too many names, out goes
the pure vision of the director.
629
00:30:37,169 --> 00:30:39,377
And, I think it's imperative
that any filmmaker
630
00:30:39,463 --> 00:30:41,876
tries to expunge as many
outside opinions as possible.
631
00:30:41,965 --> 00:30:43,251
Yeah, along with the audience.
632
00:30:43,342 --> 00:30:47,677
Yeah. Don't get me started on filmmakers who
make films with an audience's concerns in mind.
633
00:30:47,763 --> 00:30:49,800
You know, some people do
make films with the hopes
634
00:30:49,931 --> 00:30:52,531
that someone other than themselves
are going to see it eventually.
635
00:30:52,601 --> 00:30:54,684
Okay, you know what?
Let's not talk about films.
636
00:30:54,770 --> 00:30:58,434
What about people you've seen?
Have you ran into anybody lately,
637
00:30:58,523 --> 00:31:00,310
had any interesting
conversations?
638
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,361
I pretty much only talk to you, women I'm
sleeping with, and women I'm trying to sleep with.
639
00:31:05,447 --> 00:31:08,940
Okay, my bad...
Uh, what about books you've read recently?
640
00:31:09,034 --> 00:31:11,117
I told you, uh, I quit
reading books years ago.
641
00:31:11,203 --> 00:31:12,364
I thought that was a joke.
642
00:31:12,454 --> 00:31:13,911
Why would I joke about that?
643
00:31:13,997 --> 00:31:16,159
Why would you stop
reading books?
644
00:31:16,249 --> 00:31:19,187
Uh, I think I... you know... I thought I
read, pretty much everything I cared to read
645
00:31:19,211 --> 00:31:22,065
that would have been made available
during the lives of my favorite authors,
646
00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:24,129
and I'm just not interested
in contemporary authors.
647
00:31:24,174 --> 00:31:29,386
Yeah, another whackadoo theory by Max
the Great! I mean, this is absurd!
648
00:31:29,471 --> 00:31:34,466
Do you... There's tons of... brilliant,
contemporary authors out there today.
649
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:35,675
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
650
00:31:35,769 --> 00:31:39,683
- Well, I don't give a fuck!
- Oh my god, it's like you're allergic to culture.
651
00:31:39,773 --> 00:31:42,311
No. I just don't waste time
with all that bullshit.
652
00:31:42,401 --> 00:31:46,862
Oh, no, no, no, that's right... playing
Grand Theft Auto is far more important.
653
00:31:46,988 --> 00:31:50,481
No, I don't think either's more important,
but, GTA is certainly more entertaining.
654
00:31:52,994 --> 00:31:54,656
It's rotting your brain.
655
00:31:55,247 --> 00:31:59,412
Listen, Oliver... look. I've been smoking
pot every day since I was eleven years old.
656
00:31:59,501 --> 00:32:04,337
Okay? I enjoy drinking, Xanax, a little Xbox,
and a little butthole play, okay?
657
00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:06,631
I'm not exactly concerned
about my brain.
658
00:32:06,716 --> 00:32:09,404
And don't you should be focusing a little
bit more on your problems with Cassi
659
00:32:09,428 --> 00:32:11,090
than worrying about
my lifestyle choices?
660
00:32:14,474 --> 00:32:18,468
Holy shit, bro. I have
never seen you speechless.
661
00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:22,848
Okay, you know what? Fuck you! Again.
662
00:32:26,736 --> 00:32:28,464
Yeah, you do have, like,
a little something in there.
663
00:32:28,488 --> 00:32:29,238
Are you serious?
664
00:32:29,239 --> 00:32:32,719
Yeah. I don't know... looks like
spinach, or... what did you have for breakfast?
665
00:32:33,034 --> 00:32:34,034
What do I do?
666
00:32:35,078 --> 00:32:38,242
Take the spit and, like,
swish it through your two front teeth.
667
00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:41,018
- Yeah, like that.
- Is it gone?
668
00:32:41,168 --> 00:32:42,888
- Yeah. You're good.
- Okay.
669
00:32:43,336 --> 00:32:44,647
- Ah, gross.
- It wasn't bad.
670
00:32:44,671 --> 00:32:47,316
- Cass...
- If I saw it before I would have said something.
671
00:32:47,340 --> 00:32:48,626
That's so embarrassing.
672
00:32:48,717 --> 00:32:49,924
It's fine.
673
00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:54,095
Yeah... talking to people, and you're
like, hey! This big green thing.
674
00:32:54,181 --> 00:32:56,343
You're beautiful no matter
what's in your teeth.
675
00:32:56,433 --> 00:32:58,220
Oh, well, thank you.
I appreciate that.
676
00:33:00,103 --> 00:33:03,938
I think... I like the female
power thing. I like, like, the...
677
00:33:04,065 --> 00:33:06,398
the female-centric stories
now. You know.
678
00:33:06,860 --> 00:33:07,860
Yeah.
679
00:33:10,197 --> 00:33:11,733
I mean, I agree, but...
680
00:33:13,533 --> 00:33:14,719
- I don't know.
- But what?
681
00:33:14,743 --> 00:33:17,076
I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know.
682
00:33:17,162 --> 00:33:19,495
To be honest, I fell asleep
for like twenty minutes.
683
00:33:19,581 --> 00:33:22,369
Oh my god, you
do that every time.
684
00:33:22,459 --> 00:33:24,103
- No, I don't, do I...
- Yes you do!
685
00:33:24,127 --> 00:33:25,647
Every time I go see
a movie with you...
686
00:33:26,046 --> 00:33:27,806
You fall asleep.
687
00:33:27,881 --> 00:33:30,715
And there's always, like...
inevitably there's always, like, popcorn...
688
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,154
- Right.
- That has spilled all over you because you drop it.
689
00:33:34,638 --> 00:33:37,972
Maybe I just need to do, lot's
of... Popcorn makes me so gassy.
690
00:33:38,058 --> 00:33:39,058
Yeah, I know.
691
00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:03,380
Do you ever prolong your
orgasm when masturbating?
692
00:35:03,435 --> 00:35:07,395
Why do you have to ask me stuff
like that? You know it embarrasses me.
693
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,084
Yeah, that's why I ask you.
It's so fun to watch you squirm.
694
00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:11,066
So much.
695
00:35:11,067 --> 00:35:11,901
What?
696
00:35:11,902 --> 00:35:15,066
It's "so much fun," or
"such fun," but not "so fun."
697
00:35:15,196 --> 00:35:17,438
Oh, don't do that,
It's really frustrating.
698
00:35:17,532 --> 00:35:19,444
My grandfather used
to correct me all the time.
699
00:35:20,285 --> 00:35:23,869
Holy shit! Did I just
accidentally stumble upon the one thing
700
00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:26,288
that makes Letty
squeamish in public?
701
00:35:26,374 --> 00:35:28,352
Okay, back to you and Oliver.
702
00:35:28,376 --> 00:35:29,562
If you want
my uncut advice,
703
00:35:29,586 --> 00:35:31,953
I think you should pack it in,
call it a day and move on.
704
00:35:33,340 --> 00:35:36,333
This isn't an auto loan
I'm considering, this is my life.
705
00:35:36,426 --> 00:35:40,045
Stay single, focus on your
career while you're still young enough.
706
00:35:40,138 --> 00:35:41,800
My career
isn't the problem.
707
00:35:42,474 --> 00:35:44,215
No, your daydreaming is.
708
00:35:44,309 --> 00:35:45,345
In what way?
709
00:35:46,019 --> 00:35:49,498
In the way that it's exactly what drove
you to go get finger-popped by an old flame,
710
00:35:49,522 --> 00:35:50,708
when things got
tough with Oliver.
711
00:35:50,732 --> 00:35:53,099
- Really? Finger popped?
- Yeah.
712
00:35:53,193 --> 00:35:55,513
And, had you been single, that
wouldn't have been an issue.
713
00:35:55,862 --> 00:35:57,398
I don't like
being single.
714
00:35:57,489 --> 00:35:59,321
No, you don't
like being alone.
715
00:35:59,407 --> 00:36:02,696
- There's a difference.
- You're wrong. I enjoy my alone time,
716
00:36:02,786 --> 00:36:04,197
when I'm in a relationship.
717
00:36:04,704 --> 00:36:07,162
It's nice knowing
that it's temporary.
718
00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:10,495
Everything is temporary.
My arm is temporary.
719
00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:12,169
Okay.
720
00:36:12,796 --> 00:36:14,273
There's nothing
more isolating
721
00:36:14,297 --> 00:36:17,005
than sleeping next to a person
you feel estranged from.
722
00:36:17,092 --> 00:36:19,049
I never said
I felt estranged.
723
00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:21,418
Okay, disconnected.
724
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:25,298
Disconnections come and
go. It's about communication.
725
00:36:25,975 --> 00:36:28,342
But you always say
that Oliver wants space.
726
00:36:28,937 --> 00:36:32,601
That has to more to do with my own
fear and insecurity that he wants to leave me.
727
00:36:32,691 --> 00:36:36,275
Not my annoyance with the fact that he
needs solitude in order to do his work.
728
00:36:36,361 --> 00:36:38,569
Hmm.
I prefer what I have.
729
00:36:38,655 --> 00:36:41,944
I see someone I want to be with and
I'm with them. As simple as that.
730
00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:44,320
No, except,
you're never actually with them.
731
00:36:44,411 --> 00:36:45,888
Which is why, no
matter who you choose,
732
00:36:45,912 --> 00:36:48,575
you will never actually
experience true intimacy.
733
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:51,623
What I do is
the definition of intimate.
734
00:36:52,127 --> 00:36:54,460
No, what you do is
the definition of uninhibited,
735
00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:56,754
promiscuous even,
but not intimacy.
736
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,317
- I disagree...
- In fact, one could,
737
00:36:58,341 --> 00:37:00,754
one could argue that it's
the antithesis of intimacy.
738
00:37:01,469 --> 00:37:02,469
I disagree.
739
00:37:02,971 --> 00:37:05,133
I think the only thing that
matters is in the moment,
740
00:37:05,223 --> 00:37:07,306
and in the moment
of sexual collision,
741
00:37:07,392 --> 00:37:10,305
the only thing that exists is
me and the person I'm with,
742
00:37:10,395 --> 00:37:13,263
and that moment is the most
intimate moment possible.
743
00:37:13,982 --> 00:37:16,941
If anything, couples hide
behind the delusion of safety,
744
00:37:17,026 --> 00:37:20,770
thinking that equates to intimacy and
meaning, when really it's just a smokescreen
745
00:37:20,864 --> 00:37:23,024
from having to look at
yourselves honestly and clearly.
746
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,636
Wow, you're
really fucked up.
747
00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:26,901
Agree to disagree.
748
00:37:27,454 --> 00:37:29,682
Letty, please,
talk to a professional about that theory.
749
00:37:29,706 --> 00:37:30,933
You talk
to a professional.
750
00:37:30,957 --> 00:37:32,323
I do. Twice a week.
751
00:37:32,417 --> 00:37:34,204
And, look
where it's gotten you.
752
00:37:34,294 --> 00:37:37,458
I'm here because relationships
are imperfect and because I fucked up.
753
00:37:38,423 --> 00:37:39,914
So why be in it?
754
00:37:40,717 --> 00:37:43,801
Because, they're also some of the
most beautiful expressions of love,
755
00:37:43,887 --> 00:37:46,675
and with some work,
and a lot of faith,
756
00:37:46,765 --> 00:37:49,098
you can experience
something better than any drug
757
00:37:49,184 --> 00:37:51,927
or momentary, sexual
encounter has to offer.
758
00:37:52,937 --> 00:37:54,707
Okay, then you
know what you wanna do.
759
00:37:54,731 --> 00:37:56,267
I wish it
were that easy.
760
00:37:56,858 --> 00:37:58,440
Well, why isn't it?
761
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,445
I don't know.
Can we just, keep walking in silence, please?
762
00:38:42,529 --> 00:38:45,132
What do you think it is about
younger women make 'em so attractive?
763
00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:46,801
Can we not
do this right now, Max?
764
00:38:46,825 --> 00:38:48,344
What, are you too
mature to answer that?
765
00:38:48,368 --> 00:38:50,451
No, I'm just not obsessed
with sex the way you are.
766
00:38:50,537 --> 00:38:52,995
Every man is a obsessed with
sex; some just don't admit it.
767
00:38:53,081 --> 00:38:54,725
Oh, yeah... well, you
have no problem there.
768
00:38:54,749 --> 00:38:58,038
Fuck no! I own that shit! I know what I
like and I say it to the fucking world.
769
00:38:58,878 --> 00:39:01,245
You know, admission
doesn't always equal honesty.
770
00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:03,080
No, but it does equal intimacy.
771
00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:06,963
No, not when the truth of the admission
is being used as a smokescreen.
772
00:39:07,053 --> 00:39:09,933
You're really not going to discuss why
younger women are so hot, are you?
773
00:39:10,223 --> 00:39:13,637
Okay, what's to discuss? They
have softer, smoother skin,
774
00:39:13,726 --> 00:39:15,843
they aren't worried
about careers or portfolios,
775
00:39:15,937 --> 00:39:17,724
they not hung up on
marriage and children,
776
00:39:17,814 --> 00:39:21,933
they have a naive innocence and their skin
smells like fresh, blossoming flowers.
777
00:39:22,026 --> 00:39:23,266
I mean, what do you wanna hear?
778
00:39:24,237 --> 00:39:25,237
Wow!
779
00:39:25,488 --> 00:39:28,652
I just wanted to discuss why men,
in general, find younger women attractive,
780
00:39:28,741 --> 00:39:32,155
and, but you, you've really
given this a lot of thought.
781
00:39:32,745 --> 00:39:34,202
You're a real fucking sicko.
782
00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:36,697
Okay, you know what?
Go fuck yourself.
783
00:39:37,542 --> 00:39:38,542
Come on! Eh...
784
00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:41,460
I'm joking! I'm just kidding!
785
00:39:41,546 --> 00:39:44,084
I agree, they smell
like flowers!
786
00:39:50,054 --> 00:39:51,886
I would never date
a younger guy.
787
00:39:52,765 --> 00:39:53,846
Don't be so turned off.
788
00:39:53,933 --> 00:39:55,469
I just don't see the appeal.
789
00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:59,220
The appeal is that they are young,
hard-bodied studs
790
00:39:59,314 --> 00:40:02,034
ready to fuck on a moment's notice,
and more than once in an evening.
791
00:40:02,108 --> 00:40:03,440
Why do you have to be so crass?
792
00:40:03,902 --> 00:40:05,438
Why do you have
to be such a prude?
793
00:40:05,528 --> 00:40:06,528
I'm not a prude,
794
00:40:06,613 --> 00:40:10,323
I just don't want to hear the crude details
about the prepubescent boys you screw.
795
00:40:10,408 --> 00:40:11,468
They're
not prepubescent,
796
00:40:11,492 --> 00:40:13,905
they just shave themselves clean;
it's a generational thing.
797
00:40:14,579 --> 00:40:16,807
I thought Millenials are
into having hair down there.
798
00:40:16,831 --> 00:40:19,476
I can't stand being hairy.
I think I'll always have a bald...
799
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:21,833
Okay. Okay... I get it.
800
00:40:22,712 --> 00:40:24,792
I can't remember,
have you ever tasted pussy?
801
00:40:25,381 --> 00:40:29,170
Okay, now you're just trying to be shocking;
and, please don't use that word.
802
00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:30,796
No, I'm sincerely wondering.
803
00:40:30,887 --> 00:40:32,628
No! I haven't. Not interested.
804
00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:37,099
I used to fuck around with my cousin,
Rita, when we were in our early teens.
805
00:40:37,185 --> 00:40:40,724
And, I only mention this because,
I tasted so much sweeter back then;
806
00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:42,850
and I think it's the same
for men's semen too.
807
00:40:43,691 --> 00:40:45,432
Can we please talk
about anything else?
808
00:40:46,486 --> 00:40:48,569
Do you think your mom has
ever shaved her vagina?
809
00:40:52,158 --> 00:40:55,026
Cass, I'm joking!
810
00:40:59,999 --> 00:41:02,102
I think the biggest reason I
don't like being in relationships
811
00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:03,938
is because you also have
to date that person's family.
812
00:41:03,962 --> 00:41:05,919
Yeah, I mean, it can be tricky.
813
00:41:06,005 --> 00:41:08,793
Especially when for no
reason grounded in reality,
814
00:41:08,883 --> 00:41:10,444
they suddenly decide
they don't like you.
815
00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:14,508
But when you have lost as many people in your
family as I have, it can also be a nice thing.
816
00:41:14,597 --> 00:41:15,963
I guess.
817
00:41:16,057 --> 00:41:18,702
I mean, I just never even liked playing
at other kids' houses when I was a kid,
818
00:41:18,726 --> 00:41:21,309
because suddenly you gotta
abide by someone else's rules.
819
00:41:21,396 --> 00:41:25,000
Yeah, well, you don't have to play exactly by
their rules, you just have to be mindful of them.
820
00:41:25,024 --> 00:41:26,765
Nah. I hate rules.
821
00:41:26,859 --> 00:41:28,100
Everybody hates rules.
822
00:41:28,194 --> 00:41:29,194
Not everyone.
823
00:41:30,071 --> 00:41:33,064
You know, I think my ideal woman
would be an eighteen-year-old orphan
824
00:41:33,157 --> 00:41:36,491
who just lost her entire family
and inherited a billion dollars.
825
00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:40,954
Does Oliver
ever get frustrated
826
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,579
with how inundated the world is
with amateur filmmakers these days?
827
00:41:44,669 --> 00:41:47,753
You've heard his rants.
It's beyond frustrating.
828
00:41:48,464 --> 00:41:51,624
Yeah, well, I think it's brave of
him that he's still making a go of it.
829
00:41:52,135 --> 00:41:55,299
It must be unnerving knowing that everyone
with a cell phone or YouTube account
830
00:41:55,388 --> 00:41:56,879
thinks of themselves
as an auteur.
831
00:41:57,515 --> 00:41:59,076
He just doesn't
know what else he would do.
832
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:02,309
I mean, this is what he's
wanted since he was a kid.
833
00:42:02,395 --> 00:42:05,433
He's very passionate about
it. It's all he knows.
834
00:42:06,149 --> 00:42:10,484
And, I truly feel like the cream rises to the
top, so it's just a matter of time for him.
835
00:42:12,113 --> 00:42:14,394
He's lucky to have had
your support all this time.
836
00:42:15,324 --> 00:42:19,443
I mean, no offense, but I too would have
to be with somebody financially endowed.
837
00:42:20,496 --> 00:42:24,115
Wait, you know Oliver has his own
money and you have plenty of your own.
838
00:42:24,792 --> 00:42:27,272
Yeah, but I wouldn't want
to have to take care of them.
839
00:42:27,336 --> 00:42:29,453
It would make me too resentful.
840
00:42:29,547 --> 00:42:32,460
Plus, I would never date anyone
who was broke or in debt.
841
00:42:33,134 --> 00:42:36,127
Yeah, I feel like that's
pretty hard to find nowadays,
842
00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:38,660
but you definitely don't want to
marry somebody who's in debt.
843
00:42:38,723 --> 00:42:40,009
But money isn't everything.
844
00:42:40,641 --> 00:42:42,453
Yeah, I just think
we're at the age now
845
00:42:42,477 --> 00:42:44,469
where financial security
factors into love.
846
00:42:44,562 --> 00:42:48,772
It's not just needing to be with somebody at
all costs, like it feels when you're twenty-one.
847
00:42:49,233 --> 00:42:52,633
I would have to know that if necessary, this
person could take care of me financially.
848
00:42:53,196 --> 00:42:56,610
Well, maybe when you're actually
ready to be in a relationship,
849
00:42:56,699 --> 00:42:58,565
you could be Donald
Trump's fifth wife?
850
00:42:59,202 --> 00:43:01,444
Fuck no! I'd rather have
Ivanka shit in my mouth
851
00:43:01,537 --> 00:43:04,120
than touch his old, disgusting,
drooping, ginger balls.
852
00:43:04,207 --> 00:43:06,290
Gross! Letty, come on.
853
00:43:06,375 --> 00:43:10,836
I'll bet his pubic hair curls over his dick
like he fancies that dead squirrel on his head.
854
00:43:12,632 --> 00:43:14,168
I actually
have no comment.
855
00:43:15,968 --> 00:43:18,756
Did I ever tell you that I
lost my virginity to my step-sister?
856
00:43:18,846 --> 00:43:20,178
At least
a hundred times.
857
00:43:20,264 --> 00:43:23,883
Well, did I mention that after our
parents separated, we tried dating for real?
858
00:43:23,976 --> 00:43:25,808
No, I'd have
remembered that.
859
00:43:25,895 --> 00:43:28,012
I don't know why
I only attract crazy girls.
860
00:43:28,106 --> 00:43:31,565
Yeah, because I told you:
calm attracts calm and crazy attracts crazy.
861
00:43:31,692 --> 00:43:34,856
Yeah, well I'd change my energy,
but crazy loves to fuck!
862
00:43:35,321 --> 00:43:38,655
Anyway, I never felt that weird,
because, you know, we weren't related,
863
00:43:38,741 --> 00:43:40,653
and, I think outsiders
viewed it differently
864
00:43:40,743 --> 00:43:42,805
'cause we did grow up together
since we were, like, ten.
865
00:43:42,829 --> 00:43:46,509
Yeah, I'm pretty sure anyone who is
not on parole for a lewd and lascivious sex act,
866
00:43:46,541 --> 00:43:49,454
views all your proclivities differently,
sexual or otherwise.
867
00:43:49,544 --> 00:43:52,564
Actually, I ran into her a few years ago,
and believe it or not, she apologized to me
868
00:43:52,588 --> 00:43:54,468
for having had sex with her
at such a young age.
869
00:43:54,799 --> 00:43:57,257
The only reason she was even
sexually aware to begin with
870
00:43:57,343 --> 00:44:00,405
is because she was molested by a family member
about a year before our parents had met.
871
00:44:00,429 --> 00:44:03,718
- That's terrible.
- Yeah, I felt awful for her. It's horrible.
872
00:44:03,808 --> 00:44:06,471
You know, I was
molested when I was a kid.
873
00:44:07,478 --> 00:44:09,039
You never told me
you were molested.
874
00:44:09,063 --> 00:44:11,183
Yeah, well, I try
not to refer to it that way
875
00:44:11,274 --> 00:44:13,982
out of respect for those who
were more seriously affected.
876
00:44:14,068 --> 00:44:16,672
Well, who did it?
Was it a baby sitter? Was she hot at least?
877
00:44:16,696 --> 00:44:19,609
No, it was a family
friend, and it wasn't a she.
878
00:44:19,740 --> 00:44:21,677
- You were molested by a guy?
- Sort of.
879
00:44:21,701 --> 00:44:24,513
- What do you mean sort of?
- Look, I was twelve, he was fifteen.
880
00:44:24,537 --> 00:44:26,620
According to my shrink,
that's a clear molestation.
881
00:44:26,706 --> 00:44:29,393
- Yeah, but...?
- I didn't think so because I initiated it.
882
00:44:29,417 --> 00:44:32,577
Ah, dude, you were definitely molested.
That guy should have known better.
883
00:44:32,628 --> 00:44:33,709
I suppose.
884
00:44:33,796 --> 00:44:36,400
Dude, you sound like one of those
kidnap victims with Stockholm syndrome.
885
00:44:36,424 --> 00:44:37,631
No, I'm just saying...
886
00:44:37,758 --> 00:44:39,695
Look, I know what you're saying, okay?
I got it, I know what you're saying.
887
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,947
And you were definitely molested.
That guy should have known better.
888
00:44:41,971 --> 00:44:43,382
Yeah? Well, it happened.
889
00:44:44,182 --> 00:44:46,048
Fuck. So did your
parents find out?
890
00:44:46,142 --> 00:44:48,930
I told my mom but I begged
her not to tell my dad.
891
00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:52,604
I was terrified he would run down the
street and literally kill the guy.
892
00:44:53,316 --> 00:44:57,151
So... It's like so sick to me how we feel
the need to protect those who harm us?
893
00:44:57,236 --> 00:44:59,068
Yeah, you know,
the worst part is,
894
00:44:59,155 --> 00:45:00,966
is that two weeks later
I tried to doing the same
895
00:45:00,990 --> 00:45:03,983
thing to this foreign kid I went to
school with, and he freaked out,
896
00:45:04,076 --> 00:45:06,436
and I stopped before anything
happened... I ran home crying.
897
00:45:06,495 --> 00:45:09,829
And, I didn't know this then, of course,
but looking back, hindsight what it is,
898
00:45:10,499 --> 00:45:12,957
obviously that was an attempt
for me to take my power back.
899
00:45:13,044 --> 00:45:15,647
Yeah, well, it must have definitely
affected you more than you thought.
900
00:45:15,671 --> 00:45:18,379
- Okay, can we talk about something else?
- Yeah. Fine.
901
00:45:19,050 --> 00:45:22,509
I think you should, uh, write something
other than those little talkie-talks.
902
00:45:22,595 --> 00:45:24,323
Like, maybe, maybe a horror
film, or something.
903
00:45:24,347 --> 00:45:25,883
I write slice of life stuff.
904
00:45:25,973 --> 00:45:27,117
Yeah, you write about yourself.
905
00:45:27,141 --> 00:45:29,161
I write about what I am going
through. What's wrong with that?
906
00:45:29,185 --> 00:45:30,185
There's nothing wrong
with that, but you, bro,
907
00:45:30,186 --> 00:45:32,581
you're going on and on about a film
you're thinking about writing,
908
00:45:32,605 --> 00:45:35,348
that essentially centers around
your current life situation,
909
00:45:35,441 --> 00:45:39,105
instead of focusing on what you could be
doing about that situation in reality.
910
00:45:39,195 --> 00:45:41,653
So, it's self-indulgent,
it's narcissistic,
911
00:45:41,739 --> 00:45:43,884
uh, you're setting yourself up
for failure, and, you know,
912
00:45:43,908 --> 00:45:45,649
worst part is you're
not even aware of it.
913
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,056
Well let's not forget about the impending
sense of doom I feel on a daily basis?
914
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,072
Ah well, so what?
You're also depressive.
915
00:45:51,165 --> 00:45:53,498
But, we've always
known that, you know?
916
00:45:53,584 --> 00:45:56,122
Okay, you know what?
How's about a little silence for a change?
917
00:45:56,212 --> 00:45:57,212
Perfect.
918
00:45:57,380 --> 00:45:59,942
I think you should take some time,
reflect on what we just discussed,
919
00:45:59,966 --> 00:46:01,047
really absorb it, you know?
920
00:46:01,133 --> 00:46:03,420
- Yeah, I'd like to absorb you in the East River.
- Hmm...
921
00:46:07,390 --> 00:46:10,929
I feel like I'm not as intelligent
or as mentally equipped as my parents were
922
00:46:11,018 --> 00:46:13,681
at my age to make
significant decisions.
923
00:46:13,771 --> 00:46:16,458
I'm sure your parents felt
the same way when they were your age.
924
00:46:16,482 --> 00:46:18,314
I promise
you they didn't.
925
00:46:18,401 --> 00:46:20,267
By the time they were
my age they were married,
926
00:46:20,361 --> 00:46:23,854
working professionals,
who owned a house and had two kids.
927
00:46:23,948 --> 00:46:26,235
Yeah? And, how'd
that turn out for them?
928
00:46:26,742 --> 00:46:28,608
Point taken.
But, divorce aside,
929
00:46:28,703 --> 00:46:33,664
I'm talking about their individual,
mental capabilities to retain knowledge
930
00:46:33,749 --> 00:46:36,583
and handle life-changing
decisions.
931
00:46:36,669 --> 00:46:39,606
Yeah, well, they were post-war
children, they had to grow up faster.
932
00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:42,623
And, I might add, it's because
of our parents' successes
933
00:46:42,717 --> 00:46:46,336
that our generation has been afforded
a way of life that lends itself,
934
00:46:46,429 --> 00:46:49,922
or rather, actually imposes self-reflection,
and delays our emotional growth.
935
00:46:50,725 --> 00:46:56,062
In other words, it's our parents'
fault that our generation is stupid?
936
00:46:56,689 --> 00:47:00,683
No, it's not a question of intelligence.
It's a question of motivation, a lack of drive,
937
00:47:00,776 --> 00:47:03,985
stemming from the overbearing sense
of being too good for anything,
938
00:47:04,071 --> 00:47:05,437
which is, in fact, their fault.
939
00:47:06,490 --> 00:47:07,606
So, in other words,
940
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:10,693
because our parents made us feel
like we're center of the universe,
941
00:47:10,786 --> 00:47:14,621
it backfired and turned us
into spoiled, entitled brats.
942
00:47:15,207 --> 00:47:17,870
No, that would
be Millennials.
943
00:47:19,045 --> 00:47:24,382
We're just late bloomers. And it's not a
question of our... our mental capabilities.
944
00:47:27,094 --> 00:47:28,094
I don't know.
945
00:47:28,721 --> 00:47:33,591
I truly feel like will never be
as smart as my parents were.
946
00:47:33,684 --> 00:47:36,267
Yeah, well. I disagree.
947
00:47:38,647 --> 00:47:43,483
What am I gonna do, Letty? There's
so much pressure to make the right choice.
948
00:47:44,195 --> 00:47:47,395
Well maybe the fact that it's a
hard choice speaks louder than you think?
949
00:47:48,407 --> 00:47:50,694
But relationships
are hard.
950
00:47:52,953 --> 00:47:56,433
Yeah, but choosing to be in one
shouldn't be. Even with tons of work to be done.
951
00:48:01,712 --> 00:48:04,316
Well, unfortunately, I don't
think it can be broken down that simply.
952
00:48:04,340 --> 00:48:06,957
Everything can be
reduced to basic human impulses.
953
00:48:07,593 --> 00:48:09,404
Well, my impulse
says to stay with Oliver
954
00:48:09,428 --> 00:48:12,216
and work on what we have invested
in over the last five years.
955
00:48:12,848 --> 00:48:15,591
- Yeah, but to what end?
- Hopefully to no end.
956
00:48:17,478 --> 00:48:19,748
Yeah, but that doesn't
justify making a poor decision
957
00:48:19,772 --> 00:48:21,772
when you have all of the
information ahead of time.
958
00:48:22,149 --> 00:48:23,377
What's that
supposed to mean?
959
00:48:23,401 --> 00:48:27,645
It means that blindfolding
yourself is not the same as being blind.
960
00:48:29,573 --> 00:48:31,439
Cass, what are we doing?
961
00:48:31,534 --> 00:48:33,275
We're going to get food.
962
00:48:33,869 --> 00:48:37,328
No, I know, but what are we
doing right now? Why are we together?
963
00:48:37,415 --> 00:48:38,872
Why are we wandering
around the city
964
00:48:38,999 --> 00:48:42,333
when you should be sitting with Oliver
and talking to him about all of this?
965
00:48:42,420 --> 00:48:45,663
I told you, Oliver and I
needed space to gain perspective.
966
00:48:46,966 --> 00:48:50,126
Okay, but you've been apart for
over two weeks. That hasn't been enough?
967
00:48:50,302 --> 00:48:53,045
If you're sick of
talking about this, just say so.
968
00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:57,223
Cass, that is so unfair. I've
been there for you every step of the way.
969
00:48:57,309 --> 00:48:59,642
I've sat up with you, cried
with you, laughed with you,
970
00:48:59,728 --> 00:49:01,469
listened to everything
you've had to say...
971
00:49:02,314 --> 00:49:03,314
But...?
972
00:49:03,399 --> 00:49:05,482
But you don't seem
to want to be in action.
973
00:49:05,568 --> 00:49:07,671
You just want to talk, and not
even about what's important.
974
00:49:07,695 --> 00:49:12,815
And, when you are in action, it always seems
counter-productive to improving your dilemma.
975
00:49:12,908 --> 00:49:13,908
Meaning?
976
00:49:14,952 --> 00:49:17,264
Meaning, you say you want
to work on your relationship,
977
00:49:17,288 --> 00:49:19,621
but instead you go on a date
with an ex-boyfriend.
978
00:49:20,499 --> 00:49:21,910
It wasn't a date.
979
00:49:22,001 --> 00:49:24,163
Yeah, well, whatever
it was, it wasn't kosher.
980
00:49:24,253 --> 00:49:25,835
How can you judge me?
981
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:29,247
A, what your implying
is really fucked up,
982
00:49:29,341 --> 00:49:32,925
and B, I'm not judging you.
I'm your best friend; I love you. I'm just...
983
00:49:33,012 --> 00:49:35,174
I'm trying to open
your fucking eyes.
984
00:49:35,264 --> 00:49:36,675
Maybe
I don't want to see.
985
00:49:37,683 --> 00:49:39,345
Yeah, that's my point!
986
00:49:39,435 --> 00:49:42,098
So why even bother struggling with this shit?
Just fucking end it.
987
00:49:42,646 --> 00:49:44,933
Why are you getting
so worked up?
988
00:49:45,024 --> 00:49:46,835
Because, I'm sick
of hearing about problems
989
00:49:46,859 --> 00:49:50,648
you're not willing to work toward a solution
on. Especially when it comes to relationships,
990
00:49:50,738 --> 00:49:54,482
which I don't even believe in, and it's
always I who has to convince you to stay.
991
00:49:54,575 --> 00:49:56,783
Okay, relax. I'm sorry.
992
00:49:56,869 --> 00:49:58,549
No, it's really
frustrating, Cassi.
993
00:49:58,621 --> 00:50:00,783
I know.
I said I'm sorry.
994
00:50:00,873 --> 00:50:04,457
Yeah, well you won't work on it,
so your apology doesn't mean shit.
995
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,042
Okay. I'll
change. I hear you.
996
00:50:11,091 --> 00:50:14,175
And, knock this shit off
with Charlie. Stop talking him to...
997
00:50:14,261 --> 00:50:16,253
stop talking to him altogether.
998
00:50:17,181 --> 00:50:18,533
All right,
I said I'll change.
999
00:50:18,557 --> 00:50:22,221
Now, can you just stop talking
for a minute? I need to think.
1000
00:50:22,895 --> 00:50:28,232
Yeah, that's my point: stop thinking,
go to Oliver. Talk to him about all of this.
1001
00:50:32,780 --> 00:50:34,420
I don't know
what I've been doing.
1002
00:50:35,366 --> 00:50:36,732
Self-preserving.
1003
00:50:38,827 --> 00:50:40,113
Thank you, Letty.
1004
00:50:40,746 --> 00:50:41,782
I love you.
1005
00:50:42,623 --> 00:50:45,832
I love you too. Now, go.
Go, go, go. I'll be fine.
1006
00:50:45,918 --> 00:50:46,937
- Okay.
- I love you.
1007
00:50:46,961 --> 00:50:48,241
I'm gonna
go to Brooklyn.
1008
00:50:48,712 --> 00:50:50,512
- Okay.
- I'll text you later.
1009
00:50:51,674 --> 00:50:52,674
Love you.
1010
00:51:12,736 --> 00:51:15,423
So why haven't you been talking to
your therapist about all this Cassi stuff?
1011
00:51:15,447 --> 00:51:17,592
What are you talking about?!
Of course I talk to her about this.
1012
00:51:17,616 --> 00:51:19,719
I don't know, it just seems like
you haven't given it much thought.
1013
00:51:19,743 --> 00:51:22,222
Are you kidding me?
If anything, I've given it too much thought.
1014
00:51:22,246 --> 00:51:24,724
- So then where's the action?
- It's complicated,
1015
00:51:24,748 --> 00:51:26,668
there's a lot of pressure
to make the right move.
1016
00:51:26,709 --> 00:51:28,019
Yeah, but
is there a right move?
1017
00:51:28,043 --> 00:51:29,271
Obviously
there's a right move.
1018
00:51:29,295 --> 00:51:30,981
Otherwise there wouldn't
be so much pressure.
1019
00:51:31,005 --> 00:51:33,316
Yeah, but what if that
pressure could just be removed?
1020
00:51:33,340 --> 00:51:34,090
How do you mean?
1021
00:51:34,091 --> 00:51:36,987
I don't know. Maybe, you guys agree to stay
together and you don't renew the lease,
1022
00:51:37,011 --> 00:51:38,613
but, you know, maybe
find someplace else to stay.
1023
00:51:38,637 --> 00:51:41,254
- No, no. Definitely not in the cards.
- Why not?
1024
00:51:41,348 --> 00:51:43,868
Because, that's not how it
works when you're in a relationship
1025
00:51:43,892 --> 00:51:45,772
and living together with
someone for five years.
1026
00:51:45,811 --> 00:51:48,915
- Yeah, but who's rules are these? I mean, why?
- That's just how it is.
1027
00:51:48,939 --> 00:51:51,793
- Yeah, but who says? I mean, why does it have to be?
- Be... uh... oh my god!
1028
00:51:51,817 --> 00:51:53,336
- Are you trying to fuck with my patience?
- No.
1029
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,148
No, I think you are.
I think you think if you get under my skin
1030
00:51:56,238 --> 00:51:58,383
it's gonna cause me to make a
move in one direction or another,
1031
00:51:58,407 --> 00:52:01,491
but, I'm telling you, Max, it's not
helpful and I really wish you'd stop it.
1032
00:52:01,577 --> 00:52:03,680
Dude, I'm just trying to get
you to focus on your problems
1033
00:52:03,704 --> 00:52:05,181
and solve shit out
with Cassi. That's all.
1034
00:52:05,205 --> 00:52:08,310
How are you trying to get me to focus? You
haven't said anything even remotely helpful.
1035
00:52:08,334 --> 00:52:09,495
Yeah, well, that's my style.
1036
00:52:09,585 --> 00:52:10,746
- What?
- Yeah, you know.
1037
00:52:10,836 --> 00:52:13,544
I get your attention that's
concentrated on something else, okay?
1038
00:52:13,631 --> 00:52:15,942
And if the subject you're fretting
upon is strong enough, okay,
1039
00:52:15,966 --> 00:52:18,820
it's gonna pull will pull you back and make
it undeniably imperative to deal with.
1040
00:52:18,844 --> 00:52:22,284
Right, right. But how do you explain what
comes out of your mouth the rest of the time?
1041
00:52:22,514 --> 00:52:24,255
You know what, man?
Fuck this shit.
1042
00:52:24,350 --> 00:52:26,830
I don't need to be hanging out
with friends who are ungrateful.
1043
00:52:27,227 --> 00:52:28,513
Come on... you know I'm joking.
1044
00:52:28,604 --> 00:52:31,392
Yeah, but I'm not joking.
I'm not joking, man.
1045
00:52:31,482 --> 00:52:33,348
Listen, let me make
a blunt observation, okay?
1046
00:52:33,442 --> 00:52:34,461
- Please?
- Yeah, yeah, fine.
1047
00:52:34,485 --> 00:52:37,319
- Listen, I've known you a long time, known you a long time.
- Yes.
1048
00:52:37,404 --> 00:52:38,423
And, I've never known
you to be happy.
1049
00:52:38,447 --> 00:52:40,508
What? No, that's not true.
I'm always generally happy.
1050
00:52:40,532 --> 00:52:43,115
Generally happy, yes,
but specifically happy, no.
1051
00:52:43,243 --> 00:52:45,405
That... no, that doesn't
sound right.
1052
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,742
Okay... why...
why you here with me?
1053
00:52:47,831 --> 00:52:49,601
What are you talking about?
We said we're gonna hang out.
1054
00:52:49,625 --> 00:52:52,333
- Yes, I know, but why?
- To get lunch.
1055
00:52:52,419 --> 00:52:54,001
Okay, you're just not
getting it, okay?
1056
00:52:54,088 --> 00:52:57,422
You're on the verge of making the greatest
decision of your life or a the worst one,
1057
00:52:57,508 --> 00:52:59,986
and you are not giving it the
respect and attention it deserves.
1058
00:53:00,010 --> 00:53:00,886
No, that's not true.
1059
00:53:00,887 --> 00:53:04,129
It is... it is true! Then what are you
even hanging out with me for? Huh?
1060
00:53:04,264 --> 00:53:06,426
Go be with Cassi, go talk
this shit through with her.
1061
00:53:06,517 --> 00:53:09,510
I can't. We have a no communication
rule until after five in effect.
1062
00:53:09,603 --> 00:53:12,499
So break the fucking rule, man!
Or go fi... go find her, go to her sister's
1063
00:53:12,523 --> 00:53:14,105
and go talk this
shit out with her.
1064
00:53:18,445 --> 00:53:19,445
Okay.
1065
00:53:20,739 --> 00:53:23,607
You're right, you're right.
I'm gonna go...
1066
00:53:24,284 --> 00:53:27,243
I'll go find Cassi, I'll go
to her sister's, and uh...
1067
00:53:27,871 --> 00:53:31,615
I'll talk this out with her, I...
I don't know... But we haven't ate lunch.
1068
00:53:31,709 --> 00:53:34,167
It's just... Don't worry
about lunch, man. Just go.
1069
00:53:34,670 --> 00:53:36,002
- You sure?
- Yeah. Just go.
1070
00:53:36,088 --> 00:53:37,704
- You sure?
- Yeah. Go be with her.
1071
00:53:37,798 --> 00:53:39,084
Okay. Okay, thank you.
1072
00:53:39,174 --> 00:53:41,277
- You're welcome, man. I love you.
- I love you too, dude.
1073
00:53:41,301 --> 00:53:42,382
I love you. Um...
1074
00:53:43,762 --> 00:53:44,762
Uh...
1075
00:53:44,805 --> 00:53:47,297
- That way.
- Yes. I'm gonna... Okay. I'll call you later.
1076
00:53:47,391 --> 00:53:48,451
- Yeah, call me later.
- Thank you.
1077
00:53:48,475 --> 00:53:50,035
I love you, dude.
- I love you too. I...
1078
00:53:50,102 --> 00:53:51,102
Take care...
1079
00:58:35,095 --> 00:58:36,781
- So, that's it?
- That's everything.
1080
00:58:36,805 --> 00:58:37,805
I don't understand.
1081
00:58:37,806 --> 00:58:40,034
- What don't you understand?
- How that could be it.
1082
00:58:40,058 --> 00:58:41,498
That's all
there is to tell.
1083
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:42,640
But nothing happened.
1084
00:58:42,686 --> 00:58:43,927
A lot happened.
1085
00:58:44,021 --> 00:58:46,791
So, what, do they renew the lease,
they stay together, do they call it quits?
1086
00:58:46,815 --> 00:58:47,649
What do you think?
1087
00:58:47,650 --> 00:58:48,918
I think the film
is incomplete.
1088
00:58:48,942 --> 00:58:50,545
I told you,
it's a slice of life story.
1089
00:58:50,569 --> 00:58:52,547
So, that means you don't
finish it? You're a lazy writer.
1090
00:58:52,571 --> 00:58:54,107
That was the finish.
1091
00:58:54,197 --> 00:58:56,926
So, what... what about the audience?
How are they supposed to take it?
1092
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:57,826
What about the
audience?
1093
00:58:57,827 --> 00:58:59,471
How they supposed to
take it? Nothing was resolved.
1094
00:58:59,494 --> 00:59:01,264
I don't know.
I think a lot was resolved.
1095
00:59:01,288 --> 00:59:04,201
- So they stay together?
- It's whatever you think.
1096
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,617
What I think is no one
is going to watch this, okay?
1097
00:59:07,711 --> 00:59:10,773
What I think is, is you're never going to find an
audience if you keep writing this type of stuff.
1098
00:59:10,797 --> 00:59:12,984
And furthermore, I think you
should focus on other genres
1099
00:59:13,008 --> 00:59:14,608
and stop writing
this drivel immediately.
1100
00:59:14,634 --> 00:59:15,302
Oh, you do?
1101
00:59:15,303 --> 00:59:17,363
Yeah, I think it's gonna be
better for everybody involved.
1102
00:59:17,387 --> 00:59:19,490
And, don't even get me started on what
the critics are probably going to say.
1103
00:59:19,514 --> 00:59:20,700
You don't think they'll like it?
1104
00:59:20,724 --> 00:59:23,119
If they simply don't like it,
you're gonna be getting away with murder.
1105
00:59:23,143 --> 00:59:24,287
Okay, that's a little extreme.
1106
00:59:24,311 --> 00:59:27,304
Oliver... Oliver... please...
Just, do not make this film.
1107
00:59:27,397 --> 00:59:29,263
- What?
- Okay, just... just, promise me...
1108
00:59:29,357 --> 00:59:33,852
If I have any influence over you,
whatsoever, please do not make this film.
1109
00:59:33,945 --> 00:59:36,813
Okay. Relax. I... I promise...
1110
00:59:36,907 --> 00:59:38,648
I won't make this fi...
1111
00:59:48,418 --> 00:59:49,909
Wanna shift?
1112
00:59:50,921 --> 00:59:53,004
- You're okay with that?
- Okay...
1113
00:59:53,090 --> 00:59:54,006
- Two second adjustment...
- Move?
1114
00:59:54,007 --> 00:59:55,927
- Can you shift to that one?
- Yup.
1115
00:59:56,968 --> 00:59:58,209
Still rolling.
1116
00:59:58,303 --> 00:59:59,655
- This one?
- Are you bored?
1117
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:01,879
Yeah, just a little
to the side. Yeah... thanks.
1118
01:00:11,566 --> 01:00:16,277
First person that broke my heart,
which is somebody I won't name...
1119
01:00:16,363 --> 01:00:19,151
Uh... was the first person
I was ever engaged to...
1120
01:00:21,952 --> 01:00:23,944
I was definitely
in love with him.
1121
01:00:25,580 --> 01:00:27,572
And, man, I went psychotic...
1122
01:00:27,707 --> 01:00:32,668
Like, I probably would have checked myself
into a mental institution if I knew better.
1123
01:00:32,754 --> 01:00:36,464
I still regret my freak-outs.
They were really bad.
1124
01:00:38,218 --> 01:00:43,589
Yeah, I think, because of that, it brought a
lot of fear for me, absolutely, because...
1125
01:00:44,474 --> 01:00:47,057
nobody wants to be
brokenhearted, it sucks.
1126
01:00:47,144 --> 01:00:48,510
It's the worst pain ever.
1127
01:00:49,479 --> 01:00:53,473
I opened my heart one time, so big,
that, I gave all my heart away,
1128
01:00:53,567 --> 01:00:56,355
and it just got
completely destroyed.
1129
01:00:56,444 --> 01:00:58,684
I don't think I've ever recovered,
to be honest with you,
1130
01:00:59,239 --> 01:01:02,949
and, so, I think I go through
my life a little bit reserved
1131
01:01:03,034 --> 01:01:05,555
and I don't know if I'm ever gonna
be able to open it up all the way,
1132
01:01:05,579 --> 01:01:06,413
'cause I don't know what...
1133
01:01:06,414 --> 01:01:08,432
I don't want that pain to ever happen again,
to be honest with you.
1134
01:01:08,456 --> 01:01:10,038
it's just too much
for me to bear.
1135
01:01:10,125 --> 01:01:13,493
Uh, so... I kind of approach
things a little bit gentler now,
1136
01:01:13,587 --> 01:01:16,455
and, with a little bit
of caution and pause, and...
1137
01:01:16,548 --> 01:01:18,526
maybe I'll meet the right
one, one day, and it'll like,
1138
01:01:18,550 --> 01:01:20,310
it'll happen again...
but I don't trust it...
1139
01:01:20,385 --> 01:01:22,468
it doesn't ever work out
for anybody that I know.
1140
01:01:22,554 --> 01:01:25,592
I'd never seen it really work
out, really for anybody, so...
1141
01:01:26,266 --> 01:01:29,976
why bother... you know? Save a little
bit for myself. That's the way I think.
1142
01:01:34,149 --> 01:01:37,642
Why don't you think you...
you've had relationships that have lasted?
1143
01:01:44,576 --> 01:01:47,740
I don't know. I think I just didn't
have a good upbringing, maybe.
1144
01:01:48,830 --> 01:01:52,665
I mean, I feel like my grandparents
were too old to teach me anything,
1145
01:01:52,792 --> 01:01:55,785
and I was too young to really
want to learn anything,
1146
01:01:55,879 --> 01:02:00,214
and they just... they just grew up
in a different generation, so...
1147
01:02:02,344 --> 01:02:06,384
Maybe that's what's scaring me
with relationships? I'm not sure.
1148
01:02:07,682 --> 01:02:10,220
I do think Oliver is a good
long-term partner.
1149
01:02:11,436 --> 01:02:12,847
He's needed some...
1150
01:02:14,231 --> 01:02:19,317
Coaching every now and then,
but it's been pretty worth it.
1151
01:02:19,861 --> 01:02:22,319
We've had our...
we've definitely had our ups and downs,
1152
01:02:22,405 --> 01:02:24,925
but, I mean, we've stayed together
for five years, so I think...
1153
01:02:27,911 --> 01:02:29,118
I think we can do it.
1154
01:02:31,331 --> 01:02:37,293
I know this can last, but do I wanna just
ride the wave of being in the relationship?
1155
01:02:37,379 --> 01:02:43,421
So are we in this because
we're fearful of being alone?
1156
01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:47,504
Are we in this just because of the security
blanket the other person gives the other person?
1157
01:02:47,597 --> 01:02:52,558
That sense of... of,
uh, longevity, and umm...
1158
01:02:53,019 --> 01:02:56,512
such, or are we in this
because it's fulfilling,
1159
01:02:56,606 --> 01:03:01,647
and we're growing,
and umm, you know, uh...
1160
01:03:01,736 --> 01:03:03,728
and... and it's enjoyable,
and it's what we want
1161
01:03:03,822 --> 01:03:06,030
and, and I think a lot of it
does come down to fear.
1162
01:03:06,116 --> 01:03:10,076
I think, you know a lot of times you stay
in a relationship out of fear, and...
1163
01:03:10,161 --> 01:03:12,323
What do I think about
Oliver and Cassi?
1164
01:03:13,790 --> 01:03:19,161
I think it's a good thing... I really do. I think
it's a good thing, because, Oliver's a mess,
1165
01:03:19,254 --> 01:03:22,213
you know, he's a mess in general,
but when he's with her,
1166
01:03:22,299 --> 01:03:26,418
for some reason I've seen him stabilize...
I've seen him get, like, really grounded,
1167
01:03:26,511 --> 01:03:28,503
he gets productive,
he gets creative...
1168
01:03:28,596 --> 01:03:32,260
And, uh... for whatever reason, whatever
universe they're floating in together
1169
01:03:33,018 --> 01:03:34,912
without judgment, I think
it's a good thing for him.
1170
01:03:34,936 --> 01:03:37,456
So I'd like for him to get... I'd like
for him to stay together, I really would.
1171
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:38,891
I think it's a good thing.
1172
01:03:38,982 --> 01:03:40,314
Do you like Cassi?
1173
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:41,561
Do I like Cassi?
1174
01:03:42,193 --> 01:03:43,193
Hmm...
1175
01:03:44,946 --> 01:03:48,565
Yeah, I do. I think she's a good person.
I think she's a good person,
1176
01:03:48,658 --> 01:03:50,098
she's struggling
like the rest of us.
1177
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,639
We're all trying to make our way through the
world, and do the best we can, you know? But...
1178
01:03:53,663 --> 01:03:56,983
yeah, in general, I think she's a good
person, she's a sweetheart. I like her a lot.
1179
01:03:57,959 --> 01:04:01,327
I do, I think Oliver's
a decent guy. He's...
1180
01:04:02,881 --> 01:04:06,465
I think they're both not
perfect, in any way, and...
1181
01:04:06,551 --> 01:04:12,297
I think they both talk a lot and complain
a whole bunch, and they're super similar
1182
01:04:13,266 --> 01:04:16,054
but all in all, they really
do love each other, and,
1183
01:04:17,228 --> 01:04:19,720
they can be pretty cute
together sometimes.
1184
01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:23,648
Could I see myself spending
the rest of my life with Oliver?
1185
01:04:25,487 --> 01:04:26,487
Yes.
1186
01:04:27,739 --> 01:04:30,573
And also, no. Um...
1187
01:04:30,658 --> 01:04:33,776
It's a very weird time
in our relationship.
1188
01:04:34,454 --> 01:04:36,696
And it's hard for me
to articulate why...
1189
01:04:37,165 --> 01:04:40,499
it... it's gotten to the point
that it's gotten to, but...
1190
01:04:43,004 --> 01:04:46,623
I hope... I hope that he is.
1191
01:04:48,718 --> 01:04:53,304
Uh, my mom, uh, was uh,
a terrible alcoholic when she was younger,
1192
01:04:53,390 --> 01:04:58,931
and she'd been sober many, many years
prior to her, uh, passing away, but um...
1193
01:04:59,479 --> 01:05:02,768
she used to say to me when I'd say,
"How do you stay sober twenty-five years?"
1194
01:05:02,857 --> 01:05:06,100
And she would say, uh, "You
know, you just don't drink."
1195
01:05:06,194 --> 01:05:10,564
And, umm, I feel like that's basically
how it is with relationships.
1196
01:05:10,657 --> 01:05:13,195
So, can a relationship last for
twenty-five years? Absolutely.
1197
01:05:13,284 --> 01:05:16,152
Just don't get divorced.
Is it fulfilling? Is it...
1198
01:05:16,955 --> 01:05:20,164
you know, helping you
grow as a person? Uh,
1199
01:05:20,250 --> 01:05:22,492
not only in that relationship,
but on this planet,
1200
01:05:22,585 --> 01:05:27,626
and amongst your peers and your family,
and... so, I don't know, so... umm,
1201
01:05:27,715 --> 01:05:30,958
that's kind of a... a hard
question to answer, just...
1202
01:05:31,511 --> 01:05:35,130
I mean the obvious answer is yes,
relationships can last.
1203
01:05:35,223 --> 01:05:37,135
Um... Do you want it to?
1204
01:05:37,976 --> 01:05:38,976
I don't know.
1205
01:05:39,936 --> 01:05:41,393
You know, right now, I like
1206
01:05:43,481 --> 01:05:45,894
what I have with
Cassi, and um...
1207
01:05:46,359 --> 01:05:48,066
That's the problem
with relationships,
1208
01:05:48,153 --> 01:05:51,521
is it gets stale at a point, but,
that's up to you guys to work on.
1209
01:05:51,614 --> 01:05:54,778
You know, it's like, you both have
to do something to make it exciting.
1210
01:05:54,868 --> 01:05:59,078
Whether that's travel by
yourselves, watch porn,
1211
01:05:59,956 --> 01:06:04,246
add somebody in with you, I don't know,
whatever works for you, I guess.
1212
01:06:04,335 --> 01:06:08,329
Whatever floats your boat. But, try it, if
you want to be with somebody for a long time.
1213
01:06:08,423 --> 01:06:09,423
Absolutely.
1214
01:06:10,467 --> 01:06:12,754
- So...
- Communication too. That's huge.
1215
01:06:16,764 --> 01:06:21,805
I don't know that staying
in a relationship is...
1216
01:06:23,980 --> 01:06:30,980
guaranteeing that you're having deeper
meaning in your life, or relationship.
1217
01:06:31,279 --> 01:06:34,863
But the more I'm learning about relationships,
I'm learning that cheating is actual...
1218
01:06:34,949 --> 01:06:38,533
it's kind of a contract, and I think it's
different with every... every relationship.
1219
01:06:38,620 --> 01:06:44,617
To me, in my mind, cheating is when I'm taking
my sexual energy, and my emotional energy,
1220
01:06:44,709 --> 01:06:48,043
and taking it outside the relationship
in any form, to be honest with you,
1221
01:06:48,129 --> 01:06:50,291
and that means flirting,
to a certain extent,
1222
01:06:50,381 --> 01:06:53,101
you know, I know inside when I'm
across the line, like, would this...
1223
01:06:53,343 --> 01:06:57,883
if this was seen by my significant other,
would she, like, would this hurt her?
1224
01:06:57,972 --> 01:07:02,808
And if I could think that and...
and say yes to that, I think that's cheating.
1225
01:07:02,894 --> 01:07:05,181
I really do. I think most
women would agree.
1226
01:07:05,271 --> 01:07:07,137
I'm not most women,
but that's what I think.
1227
01:07:08,858 --> 01:07:13,273
The point you know, and you consider what
you're doing is cheating, is, I think,
1228
01:07:13,363 --> 01:07:15,446
the second you get
that "uh-oh" feeling
1229
01:07:15,532 --> 01:07:17,865
and that's usually, like,
that feeling in your gut,
1230
01:07:17,951 --> 01:07:22,537
and I feel like that's usually... even
the second you text or call someone else.
1231
01:07:22,622 --> 01:07:24,739
Or if someone else
is even serving as, like,
1232
01:07:24,832 --> 01:07:29,577
an emotional support for you that
your boyfriend isn't, but it's
1233
01:07:29,671 --> 01:07:31,754
another male.
You know... I think...
1234
01:07:32,966 --> 01:07:38,007
I think I got involved with my ex-boyfriend,
Charlie, because...
1235
01:07:39,806 --> 01:07:44,050
I was looking for a way out of my
relationship with Oliver in a way.
1236
01:07:45,103 --> 01:07:48,187
We've been having the same conversations
over and over and over again
1237
01:07:48,273 --> 01:07:52,734
for the past five years,
and some things just haven't changed and...
1238
01:07:54,112 --> 01:07:56,855
One of which, being the passion.
1239
01:07:58,491 --> 01:08:02,576
And, Charlie and I just have always
had a more passionate relationship
1240
01:08:02,662 --> 01:08:06,246
if I compared the two,
that's what really stood out, is, we just...
1241
01:08:06,916 --> 01:08:09,078
the sex was great. So...
1242
01:08:09,752 --> 01:08:14,292
and Oliver and I haven't
been sleeping together, so...
1243
01:08:15,842 --> 01:08:18,529
You know, that's a whole other thing
and that's interesting to me too,
1244
01:08:18,553 --> 01:08:22,422
like, why stay in a relationship after you
know somebody is... cheated or something,
1245
01:08:22,515 --> 01:08:24,882
I... You know what?
Because... what else is out there?
1246
01:08:24,976 --> 01:08:28,845
You got... you got, uh...
a whole new set up and all that stuff
1247
01:08:28,938 --> 01:08:33,057
and also it's an opportunity to work
on your trust and growth and such.
1248
01:08:33,192 --> 01:08:36,026
And it's not so easy,
just throwing people away, you know?
1249
01:08:36,112 --> 01:08:37,444
It's uh... uh...
1250
01:08:37,530 --> 01:08:41,649
And... umm... you know, we've lived
together for five years, so, um...
1251
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,278
I don't know. I don't know, uh...
where we're going exactly,
1252
01:08:45,371 --> 01:08:48,364
but I do know I am not
done with it yet.
1253
01:08:48,458 --> 01:08:51,701
That's the thing.
As much as I don't want relationships,
1254
01:08:51,794 --> 01:08:55,208
and they scare the shit out of me,
I'd still like to grow old with somebody.
1255
01:08:56,507 --> 01:08:58,214
How do you do that?
I don't know.
1256
01:09:01,304 --> 01:09:05,014
Obviously everyone wants to feel love.
But the older I get, I feel like...
1257
01:09:05,683 --> 01:09:08,517
the financial security is way...
is... not way more important,
1258
01:09:08,603 --> 01:09:12,688
but it's definitely something
to consider, you know?
1259
01:09:12,774 --> 01:09:16,267
If I'm like, popping out kids,
and I can't work for a little bit,
1260
01:09:16,361 --> 01:09:18,899
the other person has to
be able to support me
1261
01:09:18,988 --> 01:09:22,026
at least us, while we're...
while I'm, you know...
1262
01:09:22,116 --> 01:09:24,108
while it's like,
attached to my tit.
1263
01:09:24,202 --> 01:09:25,738
So, um...
1264
01:09:26,621 --> 01:09:28,783
I don't know. Ugh.
1265
01:09:30,041 --> 01:09:31,041
I guess, love.
1266
01:09:31,793 --> 01:09:32,954
Love, yeah.
1267
01:09:33,628 --> 01:09:37,998
Uh... Am I staying in this out
of convenience or fear?
1268
01:09:38,091 --> 01:09:40,799
Hopefully, those are not
the only two options.
1269
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:46,555
I don't think, ultimately I'm
staying in it out of fear, uh...
1270
01:09:46,641 --> 01:09:52,763
I just think it's something I'm not quite ready
to let go of, if that's the way it's gonna go.
1271
01:09:52,855 --> 01:09:57,475
Umm... and...
and I do think, just, we deserve, uh...
1272
01:09:57,568 --> 01:10:00,481
You know... to give
it a chance, to, uh,
1273
01:10:01,364 --> 01:10:02,240
see what's next.
1274
01:10:02,241 --> 01:10:06,701
All... although, it is, um, scary to think
that we'd resign this, you know, lease and...
1275
01:10:06,786 --> 01:10:10,279
and then, uh, have a terrible fight in a...
a week, or a month, and
1276
01:10:10,915 --> 01:10:16,832
then we're locked into this... you know,
living together and not wanting to. Um...
1277
01:10:17,422 --> 01:10:20,506
Which we've kind of been in that
place before and I slept on the couch
1278
01:10:20,591 --> 01:10:23,880
but that's neither here nor there,
but it's... it's just... it's not fun,
1279
01:10:23,970 --> 01:10:29,261
uh, being in a tight quarter with somebody
you're going through a rough time with. Um...
1280
01:10:29,350 --> 01:10:31,808
Do... do I think I
wanna have kids ever?
1281
01:10:33,438 --> 01:10:35,395
No. No.
1282
01:10:35,940 --> 01:10:39,650
It's like, I don't wanna pass on
whatever fucked up thing I might have
1283
01:10:39,736 --> 01:10:41,978
to any potential
offspring I have.
1284
01:10:42,071 --> 01:10:45,467
I don't think I could take care of 'em the
right way. I think I'd be a fucked up father.
1285
01:10:45,491 --> 01:10:49,201
I know how to love, and I love kids,
but I'd rather do it from a distance,
1286
01:10:49,328 --> 01:10:50,806
I don't even wanna
bring it in to the mix.
1287
01:10:50,830 --> 01:10:53,117
I don't want to subject
a kid to any of my bullshit.
1288
01:10:53,207 --> 01:10:54,207
I just don't.
1289
01:10:55,042 --> 01:10:57,329
I think Oliver would
be a really great dad.
1290
01:10:57,420 --> 01:10:59,628
I just don't think he thinks
he would be a great dad.
1291
01:10:59,714 --> 01:11:04,209
And that's the sad part because... I mean,
we've talked about having kids, and...
1292
01:11:06,679 --> 01:11:09,672
I think the thought of him having
to be responsible for a human life
1293
01:11:09,766 --> 01:11:11,849
freaks him out
a little bit. And...
1294
01:11:11,934 --> 01:11:16,725
he's definitely had his share of
pregnancy scares, with other people.
1295
01:11:17,356 --> 01:11:20,895
So, he's considered it, but...
1296
01:11:22,069 --> 01:11:25,528
Do I think Cassi and I want
the same thing? Um...
1297
01:11:26,741 --> 01:11:29,529
Well, we want different things
out of our, you know, like,
1298
01:11:30,077 --> 01:11:33,320
personal lives, it seems
sometimes but, uh... but...
1299
01:11:33,414 --> 01:11:35,656
but in a relationship, I think
we want the same thing.
1300
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:40,745
I think we're both looking for
a significant other who wants
1301
01:11:40,838 --> 01:11:47,838
to make the other laugh, and, you know,
enjoy interesting conversations and films,
1302
01:11:48,095 --> 01:11:49,677
and, at times,
1303
01:11:51,516 --> 01:11:53,599
she gets a little bored
1304
01:11:54,352 --> 01:11:56,719
and then I get complacent,
1305
01:11:57,396 --> 01:12:03,017
and then we forget and lose touch
with what we actually want, and,
1306
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:05,443
uh, it's hard to see that
we want the same thing, but...
1307
01:12:05,530 --> 01:12:10,821
I think, ultimately, um, we do.
And, I think that the fact that we're even
1308
01:12:11,869 --> 01:12:14,953
trying to figure this out so hard,
whether or not we should stay together
1309
01:12:15,039 --> 01:12:18,749
is proof that we do pretty much
want the same thing, it's just...
1310
01:12:22,421 --> 01:12:25,505
Yeah, I don't know.
I... that's not such an...
1311
01:12:25,591 --> 01:12:28,959
I'm... I'm not sure I can
answer that question. So...
1312
01:12:29,679 --> 01:12:31,215
No, no, you know what? I don't.
1313
01:12:31,305 --> 01:12:34,173
I don't. I think I am some days
and I think I'm not other days,
1314
01:12:34,267 --> 01:12:35,974
you know, like,
maybe two days ago
1315
01:12:36,060 --> 01:12:37,926
I was... I was
a raging narcissist.
1316
01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:40,603
I didn't give a fuck
about people in my life,
1317
01:12:40,690 --> 01:12:43,530
I didn't give a fuck about my family,
I didn't even give a fuck about...
1318
01:12:44,151 --> 01:12:45,562
people that I care about.
1319
01:12:48,281 --> 01:12:50,364
But, you know, the fact
that I even feel anything...
1320
01:12:54,745 --> 01:12:58,489
the fact that I give a fuck about any of it,
makes me feel like, no, I'm not a narcissist,
1321
01:12:58,583 --> 01:13:01,041
'cause I care. I ca... I care...
1322
01:13:05,464 --> 01:13:07,296
So, no, I'm not a narcissist.
1323
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:10,876
Fuck, man.
1324
01:13:13,347 --> 01:13:19,765
To me a narcissist is someone
whose entire universe
1325
01:13:19,854 --> 01:13:25,145
and life and every waking thought
kinda revolves around them.
1326
01:13:25,234 --> 01:13:29,569
I honestly don't think I am a narcissist,
uh, straightforward.
1327
01:13:29,655 --> 01:13:33,774
I think we all have narcissistic qualities,
uh, especially nowadays
1328
01:13:33,868 --> 01:13:40,081
with the advent of, like, um,
social medias, and... and, like, you know.
1329
01:13:40,166 --> 01:13:46,333
All... all of the...
I mean, the selfie alone is like, a pure, uh,
1330
01:13:47,173 --> 01:13:52,635
kind of, you know, extension
of narcissism, I feel.
1331
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,882
Um, I have times when I think,
1332
01:13:55,556 --> 01:14:00,392
uh, I don't give a shit what happens to,
you know, A, B, and C,
1333
01:14:00,478 --> 01:14:02,060
I've gotta get this
thing done for me,
1334
01:14:02,146 --> 01:14:04,559
because this is my dream
and this is what I'm doing
1335
01:14:04,649 --> 01:14:06,936
and fuck you if you're
not on board and...
1336
01:14:07,401 --> 01:14:09,484
You know, those
kind of things, um...
1337
01:14:09,570 --> 01:14:11,937
But it's a tricky question
because, I think...
1338
01:14:12,031 --> 01:14:14,871
and that's one of the things that I
was trying to do in making this film
1339
01:14:14,951 --> 01:14:16,871
was... I want people to
think about those things,
1340
01:14:16,911 --> 01:14:19,654
I want people
to think about where,
1341
01:14:19,747 --> 01:14:22,740
uh, they've been more selfish,
or less selfish, and...
1342
01:14:22,833 --> 01:14:25,701
and how do you relate to what these
characters are going through?
1343
01:14:25,795 --> 01:14:28,629
I think Oliver is a narcissist
to a certain degree,
1344
01:14:28,714 --> 01:14:30,671
but I think we're all
narcissists in some way.
1345
01:14:30,758 --> 01:14:34,217
I mean, you have to be
in order to survive, right?
1346
01:14:34,303 --> 01:14:35,714
That's... you know...
1347
01:14:35,805 --> 01:14:38,468
narcissism is kind of what
keeps us alive, in a way.
1348
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:41,592
I don't think he's a hundred
percent one, but...
1349
01:14:43,729 --> 01:14:46,062
I think... that...
1350
01:14:46,816 --> 01:14:48,432
he's definitely...
1351
01:14:48,901 --> 01:14:50,642
He needs to grow
up a little bit.
1352
01:14:51,821 --> 01:14:57,067
I'm, uh, Oliver, and I'm the
writer, director of the film.
1353
01:14:58,369 --> 01:15:02,909
I made this film, because...
Well, I mean, as a writer,
1354
01:15:02,999 --> 01:15:06,868
and a filmmaker, you know,
I'm always looking for my next, um,
1355
01:15:07,461 --> 01:15:11,296
story to tell, of course, and...
and always working out a new narrative,
1356
01:15:11,382 --> 01:15:17,299
and something that interests me. You know,
I really wanted to explore subjects, uh,
1357
01:15:17,388 --> 01:15:21,883
and, um, themes that were, um...
1358
01:15:23,811 --> 01:15:30,811
accurate and current to what my,
uh peer groups and friends actually discuss,
1359
01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:34,986
things that we would talk about,
things that we do talk about.
1360
01:15:35,072 --> 01:15:37,155
Hopefully entertaining,
to a degree.
1361
01:15:37,241 --> 01:15:42,361
Hopefully interesting. Might spark some
conversation to anybody who watches it,
1362
01:15:42,455 --> 01:15:47,246
afterwards, to uh,
maybe debate some subjects, or whatnot.
1363
01:15:47,334 --> 01:15:52,796
I mean, I guess I'm the same as the
person that I wrote about in this film.
1364
01:15:52,882 --> 01:15:55,875
Was that the question?
Am I the same as the person I wrote about?
1365
01:15:55,968 --> 01:15:57,675
I think, yes,
I am the character.
1366
01:15:57,762 --> 01:16:02,006
I think, maybe I
exemplify some flaws, or,
1367
01:16:02,099 --> 01:16:07,185
uh, exaggerated some characteristics
of certain characters, but...
1368
01:16:07,271 --> 01:16:13,142
This is the first film where I
named the character the same name,
1369
01:16:13,235 --> 01:16:16,103
uh, that I have, Oliver, so...
I've never done that before.
1370
01:16:16,197 --> 01:16:21,283
Usually, I, you know, choose some name
that I've... You know, and not only that,
1371
01:16:21,368 --> 01:16:27,035
I named the other characters the same. I
really think I was trying to capture, uh, um,
1372
01:16:28,042 --> 01:16:29,283
something real.
1373
01:16:29,376 --> 01:16:32,414
Who are the other people?
Well, okay, so, uh...
1374
01:16:32,505 --> 01:16:37,250
They are my confidants, uh, my
1375
01:16:37,343 --> 01:16:42,384
you know, pool of friends
who ground me.
1376
01:16:42,473 --> 01:16:47,468
Um, people who make me feel safe and secure,
who I bounce my ideas off of
1377
01:16:47,561 --> 01:16:54,434
who challenge me on my belief systems, and...
and, uh, the ways I think, and, uh...
1378
01:16:54,527 --> 01:16:58,567
you know, kind of hold me up to be,
umm, to a higher standard,
1379
01:16:58,656 --> 01:17:02,491
to be the best version
of Oliver that I can be.
1380
01:17:02,952 --> 01:17:05,535
What is your goal
with the project?
1381
01:17:05,621 --> 01:17:06,782
Oh, back to the film.
1382
01:17:06,872 --> 01:17:11,913
Well, as a filmmaker, your... The goal is to
make the film and to make the next film, so.
1383
01:17:12,002 --> 01:17:17,964
The film goal for this is to just get it
done, get it out there, find its audience,
1384
01:17:18,050 --> 01:17:24,138
and hopefully, uh,
find the people or person
1385
01:17:24,765 --> 01:17:28,600
who likes it enough to wanna
help me make my next film,
1386
01:17:28,686 --> 01:17:34,432
because the goal is to, you know,
always be making another film.
1387
01:17:34,525 --> 01:17:37,233
There's a lot of reasons to
make it for very little money.
1388
01:17:37,319 --> 01:17:41,689
Um, we made this one for next to nothing,
and the... the point with that was,
1389
01:17:41,782 --> 01:17:46,026
A, total control, B, go anywhere you want,
shoot anything you want...
1390
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:51,707
We have almost no, you know, no crew,
no overhead, we keep it very, um...
1391
01:17:51,792 --> 01:17:53,499
stripped down to the bone.
1392
01:17:53,586 --> 01:17:58,957
And, uh, that allows for a,
great artistic freedom, and um,
1393
01:17:59,049 --> 01:18:04,545
I think nowadays, um,
quantity equals quality.
1394
01:18:04,638 --> 01:18:07,927
Not in the sense that if you do
more it's automatically better,
1395
01:18:08,434 --> 01:18:13,054
but in the sense that more
is better, in this day and age.
1396
01:18:13,147 --> 01:18:15,309
It helps you get seen more,
1397
01:18:15,399 --> 01:18:18,938
uh, people like to see that
you've done more, um, and...
1398
01:18:19,028 --> 01:18:22,132
and, I do think, though, that it is true,
that the more you do, the better you get.
1399
01:18:22,156 --> 01:18:26,070
So if you're... if you have no talent,
and you're never gonna be great,
1400
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:31,952
even your, you know, whatever's your best,
is gonna improve by doing more.
1401
01:18:32,041 --> 01:18:34,954
Because you'll be quicker at it,
even if it's quicker at being bad,
1402
01:18:35,044 --> 01:18:39,209
and more efficient at being bad, or whatever
it is that you're doing poorly, you know,
1403
01:18:39,298 --> 01:18:40,960
you'll be able to do it better.
1404
01:18:41,050 --> 01:18:46,216
Um, and if you do have talent,
and you have some sort of growth going on,
1405
01:18:46,305 --> 01:18:48,467
then it... more will help
you improve there.
1406
01:18:48,557 --> 01:18:49,673
So it's not...
1407
01:18:49,767 --> 01:18:53,886
It... it's... but what I'm not saying is,
just by having more, you're better,
1408
01:18:53,979 --> 01:18:57,973
but, in this day and age,
in this environment that we... that we, uh...
1409
01:18:58,067 --> 01:19:03,233
uh, are... are in, in this atmosphere
of filmmaking, I do believe that, uh,
1410
01:19:03,322 --> 01:19:06,156
more is better, and
to have more to show...
1411
01:19:06,242 --> 01:19:07,983
And, I also believe
that work begets work,
1412
01:19:08,077 --> 01:19:11,946
and I don't like to sit around and wait,
so, some films I make for more money,
1413
01:19:12,039 --> 01:19:14,076
and then other films
I make for no money
1414
01:19:14,166 --> 01:19:17,125
because I just, have to make
the next one, but, um...
1415
01:19:17,211 --> 01:19:19,544
That's really why we made
this one, for no money,
1416
01:19:19,630 --> 01:19:23,089
uh... or not no money, but
very little money, and, uh...
1417
01:19:23,175 --> 01:19:27,670
it... again, it really allows us
to, or myself to express,
1418
01:19:27,763 --> 01:19:33,634
wholeheartedly, um,
what I want to express, um...
1419
01:19:34,395 --> 01:19:37,012
Yeah. Uh, also,
you know, it's...
1420
01:19:37,106 --> 01:19:42,727
This film was... was fun because, uh, it...
it, the... New York plays,
1421
01:19:43,779 --> 01:19:50,026
you know, not just as big a character as the
characters in the film, it often plays bigger.
1422
01:19:50,119 --> 01:19:51,155
You know, uh.
1423
01:19:51,245 --> 01:19:56,081
There was a lot of New York in this,
and that was very exciting to me, and uh...
1424
01:19:56,166 --> 01:20:00,376
You can't just do that with...
with a bigger budget,
1425
01:20:00,462 --> 01:20:06,174
and where you're, um,
beholden to investors and such, so... Um...
1426
01:20:06,260 --> 01:20:09,219
Uh, again, it's freedom...
really it's freedom.
1427
01:20:09,305 --> 01:20:11,467
And to continue working, uh...
1428
01:20:11,557 --> 01:20:16,769
uh, so that maybe my work will help
me get more work, so... yeah...
1429
01:20:16,854 --> 01:20:19,471
Anyway, umm, are we done? Can...
1430
01:20:20,274 --> 01:20:21,481
Can I go? I kind of have to,
1431
01:20:21,942 --> 01:20:24,650
I got a thing with a guy
and uh... doodle...
1432
01:20:25,571 --> 01:20:26,857
Alright. Thank you.
1433
01:20:27,948 --> 01:20:28,948
Cut.
1434
01:20:29,305 --> 01:20:35,221
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