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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:31,691 --> 00:01:33,392 My dear parents, 2 00:01:33,693 --> 00:01:36,896 I pray that by the time you receive this Ietter, 3 00:01:37,197 --> 00:01:39,899 I shaII have obtained my Iife's dream-- 4 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,403 to cross beyond the watchtower and waII outside my window... 5 00:01:45,205 --> 00:01:48,941 to the Iife enjoyed by the majority of peopIe in the worId, 6 00:01:49,242 --> 00:01:53,446 a Iife in which one can choose where and how to Iive. 7 00:01:56,249 --> 00:02:00,920 And though it hurts me to know that I may never see you again-- 8 00:02:01,221 --> 00:02:04,423 a pain that I know you share-- 9 00:02:06,593 --> 00:02:08,594 I ask you to forgive me... 10 00:02:08,895 --> 00:02:13,599 and understand that I must be with my chiIdren in the West. 11 00:03:08,288 --> 00:03:09,989 PoIand? Why PoIand? 12 00:03:10,290 --> 00:03:11,857 Because you can go there IegaIIy. 13 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:15,794 No one wiII recognize you. You go with your own I.D.s. 14 00:03:16,096 --> 00:03:20,299 You're on vacation. You want to visit a museum, whatever, no probIem. 15 00:03:22,102 --> 00:03:24,803 And then you'II join us. 16 00:03:25,105 --> 00:03:27,306 In two days. 17 00:03:27,607 --> 00:03:30,809 As a West German, I can traveI as I pIease. I decide to take a vacation. 18 00:03:31,111 --> 00:03:34,813 I'II meet you in Gdansk, give you the forged papers and I.D.s, 19 00:03:35,115 --> 00:03:40,085 and you board the ship that takes you to Hamburg or Bremen. 20 00:03:40,387 --> 00:03:43,889 What is it, Sigrid? Huh? 21 00:03:44,191 --> 00:03:46,392 Oh. 22 00:03:46,693 --> 00:03:50,396 It seems now so possibIe, but... I'm frightened, Hans. 23 00:03:50,697 --> 00:03:52,398 If Marina goes to-- No! 24 00:03:52,699 --> 00:03:55,301 Sorry. Think positive. 25 00:03:55,602 --> 00:03:57,236 Ja-- Positive. 26 00:03:57,537 --> 00:04:02,141 When Hans asked me to go with you, I jumped at the chance. 27 00:04:02,442 --> 00:04:04,143 It's a good pIan. 28 00:04:04,444 --> 00:04:08,414 Hans, you and Marina have a Iife to Iive, a free Iife. 29 00:04:08,715 --> 00:04:12,284 And I? My boys are there, and I'm here. 30 00:04:12,586 --> 00:04:17,022 My God. I'II never see them again unIess we try this! 31 00:04:19,726 --> 00:04:21,293 It's our onIy chance. 32 00:05:18,251 --> 00:05:22,454 Lutz. 33 00:05:22,756 --> 00:05:24,456 Lutz! 34 00:05:29,262 --> 00:05:31,964 100 Station, Iocker 13. 35 00:06:27,654 --> 00:06:30,723 Sigrid, I'm now at the 100 Station. 36 00:06:31,024 --> 00:06:33,726 My train Ieaves in haIf an hour. 37 00:06:34,027 --> 00:06:35,994 See you tomorrow in PoIand. 38 00:06:36,796 --> 00:06:38,864 Sigrid, don'tworry. I'II be carefuI. 39 00:06:39,165 --> 00:06:41,333 Departing from track one, 40 00:06:41,634 --> 00:06:45,337 the Warsaw-Leningrad Express with connection to Gdansk. 41 00:07:30,884 --> 00:07:32,584 What do you want? 42 00:07:32,886 --> 00:07:34,586 Let me go! 43 00:07:48,001 --> 00:07:49,568 Look. 44 00:08:32,846 --> 00:08:36,048 It's not him. Come on. Come on. Hurry. 45 00:08:59,539 --> 00:09:02,508 Ladies and gentIemen, pIease fasten your seat beIts. 46 00:09:02,809 --> 00:09:05,511 We wiII be taking off in a few minutes. Thank you. 47 00:09:22,262 --> 00:09:25,197 Ladies and gentIemen, Captain Wiszevski informs you... 48 00:09:25,498 --> 00:09:27,733 thatwe have started our descent towards SchoenefeId Airport. 49 00:09:28,034 --> 00:09:30,736 Remember, you have nothing to do with this. 50 00:09:31,037 --> 00:09:32,738 I know. And say nothing about Hans. 51 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:34,606 But I'm so afraid. Nothing. 52 00:09:34,908 --> 00:09:38,477 The temperature in BerIin is 24 degrees CeIsius. 53 00:09:38,778 --> 00:09:40,846 Thank you. 54 00:09:44,050 --> 00:09:46,752 Can I heIp you, sir? No, thank you. 55 00:10:17,483 --> 00:10:20,319 I-- I hate flying. 56 00:10:30,229 --> 00:10:33,432 What-- Quiet. I don'twant to hurt you. 57 00:11:21,714 --> 00:11:25,517 This is BerIin U.S. MiIitaryAirport. 58 00:11:25,818 --> 00:11:30,022 LOT 165, we have been advised by SchoenefeId Airport, East BerIin, ofyour emergency. 59 00:11:30,323 --> 00:11:32,891 PIease confirm. That's affirmative, BerIin. 60 00:11:33,192 --> 00:11:35,494 Bring out the crash foam. We got a radar on a possibIe hijacking. 61 00:11:35,795 --> 00:11:40,332 Prepare for emergency diversion. Landing at TempeIhof. 62 00:11:40,633 --> 00:11:43,635 Permission granted, LOT 165. 63 00:11:43,936 --> 00:11:48,140 Radar contact, turn right, heading 180, go back to visuaI... 64 00:11:48,441 --> 00:11:49,975 to TempeIhof. 65 00:11:50,276 --> 00:11:53,845 - PIease advise when you have the runway in sight. - Roger. I have the runway. 66 00:11:54,147 --> 00:11:57,249 LOT 165, check wheeIs down. 67 00:11:57,550 --> 00:12:01,053 Wind 2505. CIear to Iand. 68 00:12:01,354 --> 00:12:03,922 Roger, BerIin. Coming down. 69 00:12:19,906 --> 00:12:23,475 Listen, ifyou want to get offthe pIane and stay, 70 00:12:23,776 --> 00:12:26,178 we are free! 71 00:12:26,479 --> 00:12:29,481 LOT 165, this is transit controI. HoId your position. 72 00:12:29,782 --> 00:12:31,917 Shut down your engines. 73 00:12:32,218 --> 00:12:34,419 Open the hatch and observe the off-Ioading. 74 00:12:34,721 --> 00:12:36,421 AcknowIedge. 75 00:12:46,999 --> 00:12:51,903 Throw down your gun! - Request foIIowing personneI to processing center. 76 00:12:52,205 --> 00:12:56,541 WeIcome.WiIIkommen to a free West BerIin. 77 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:10,922 Ask him again. Did he hear anything or did he see anything? 78 00:13:15,728 --> 00:13:17,929 Nein. 79 00:13:18,231 --> 00:13:20,432 PIease, couId I use the teIephone? 80 00:13:20,733 --> 00:13:23,935 Yes. WouId you escort him to a phone? 81 00:13:24,237 --> 00:13:25,937 Okay. 82 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:32,010 Are you seeking asyIum? 83 00:13:32,311 --> 00:13:34,746 What about the woman? 84 00:13:35,047 --> 00:13:37,048 Sigrid Radke and her daughter were traveIing with you. 85 00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:39,451 They didn't know whatwas going on? 86 00:13:39,752 --> 00:13:41,953 She has nothing to do with this. I toId you before. 87 00:13:42,255 --> 00:13:44,456 I did it by myseIf, for myseIf. 88 00:13:44,757 --> 00:13:46,691 Don't be a fooI, Guenther. 89 00:13:46,993 --> 00:13:49,961 This is what I aIways wanted for you. 90 00:13:50,263 --> 00:13:53,231 Mama, how can I stay here... 91 00:13:53,533 --> 00:13:55,100 when you're there, so sick? 92 00:13:55,401 --> 00:14:00,005 Oh, no, no. You don'tworry about me. 93 00:14:00,306 --> 00:14:03,375 Take care ofyourfamiIy. 94 00:14:03,676 --> 00:14:05,577 I can't taIk now. 95 00:14:07,847 --> 00:14:09,548 I Iove you. 96 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:11,483 Mama? 97 00:14:11,784 --> 00:14:13,485 Mama! 98 00:14:23,262 --> 00:14:25,797 The hijacking of a PoIish airIiner to West BerIin Saturday... 99 00:14:26,098 --> 00:14:27,999 with 63 passengers and eight crew members aboard... 100 00:14:28,801 --> 00:14:31,503 ended peacefuIIy when the armed air pirate, HeImut ThieIe, 101 00:14:31,804 --> 00:14:34,506 an East German waiter, surrendered toAmerican authorities at TempeIhof, 102 00:14:35,308 --> 00:14:38,009 the United States miIitary airfieId here. 103 00:14:39,812 --> 00:14:42,013 The hijacker, who was disarmed by U.S. Air Force personneI, 104 00:14:42,315 --> 00:14:46,351 was taken intoAmerican custody, aIong with a woman and a chiId in his company. 105 00:14:46,652 --> 00:14:49,521 U.S. officiaIs said eight other passengers, aII East Germans, 106 00:14:49,822 --> 00:14:52,691 asked for asyIum and were turned over to West BerIin refugee services. 107 00:14:52,992 --> 00:14:55,694 We are so Iucky. Ja, das stimmt. 108 00:14:58,664 --> 00:15:02,901 The fact that I am abIe to express my feeIings now... 109 00:15:03,202 --> 00:15:05,403 without fear... 110 00:15:05,705 --> 00:15:08,406 fiIIs me with happiness. 111 00:15:08,708 --> 00:15:10,909 I pray that you wiII see this Ietter... 112 00:15:11,711 --> 00:15:13,411 and smiIe for me. 113 00:15:28,561 --> 00:15:31,263 B-E-A-R. 114 00:15:31,564 --> 00:15:34,532 B-E-A-R. 115 00:15:34,834 --> 00:15:36,868 And he make, "Whaaaah!" 116 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:39,137 Whaaah! 117 00:15:39,438 --> 00:15:41,406 And now, cat. 118 00:15:41,707 --> 00:15:43,408 Good morning. Oh, heIIo. 119 00:15:43,709 --> 00:15:46,912 I'm sorry to interrupt you. Itjust Iooked Iike you were having so much fun. 120 00:15:47,213 --> 00:15:49,447 Ja, we enjoy the new present very much. Thank you, CoIoneI. 121 00:15:50,216 --> 00:15:52,183 I thought it might be kind of a painIess way for her to Iearn EngIish. 122 00:15:52,485 --> 00:15:55,987 - How are you today, Marina? - Good morning. More books? 123 00:15:56,289 --> 00:16:00,725 No, no books today, but I did bring you some... 124 00:16:01,027 --> 00:16:02,594 chocoIate. 125 00:16:02,895 --> 00:16:05,463 Thank you. You're weIcome. 126 00:16:08,801 --> 00:16:10,502 Frau Radke, I have something for you too. 127 00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:14,005 Oh, you brought me some books. 128 00:16:14,307 --> 00:16:17,008 This is a short statement we've prepared. 129 00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:19,010 It's a formaIity, a reIease. 130 00:16:19,812 --> 00:16:22,380 I can't beIieve it. Why now, after so Iong? 131 00:16:22,682 --> 00:16:24,616 Sigrid, we trust you. We beIieve you. 132 00:16:24,917 --> 00:16:28,353 Mr. LaeuferwiII be taking you to a West BerIin refugee center. 133 00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:30,655 They'II give you identification papers, money. 134 00:16:30,957 --> 00:16:33,024 They'II heIp you find a job, a pIace to Iive. 135 00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:34,993 What about HeImut? 136 00:16:35,294 --> 00:16:38,863 WeII, not yet. With HeImut, it's a bit more compIicated. 137 00:16:39,165 --> 00:16:41,733 "On behaIf of my daughter, Marina Radke, 138 00:16:42,535 --> 00:16:46,604 I hereby reIease and forever discharge the United States government." 139 00:16:46,906 --> 00:16:50,875 We are aII signatories to the internationaI accord against hijacking, 140 00:16:51,177 --> 00:16:52,877 incIuding West Germany, for God's sake. 141 00:16:53,179 --> 00:16:56,881 That agreement requires prosecution or extradition back to the East... 142 00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:58,883 to face prosecution there. 143 00:16:59,185 --> 00:17:01,820 It's poIiticaI suicide for the West Germans to do either. 144 00:17:02,121 --> 00:17:05,323 What the heII do they put in their coffee around here? So Bonn wants out. 145 00:17:05,624 --> 00:17:09,327 You bet they want out. We are in one heII of a bind. 146 00:17:09,628 --> 00:17:11,329 We have to prosecute. 147 00:17:12,131 --> 00:17:15,233 State has a mess, and justice must cIean it up. 148 00:17:22,375 --> 00:17:24,809 A courtroom. Yes. 149 00:17:25,111 --> 00:17:28,046 And Bonn is paying for every naiI. Everything. 150 00:17:28,347 --> 00:17:31,349 They're paying us to prosecute the case for them. 151 00:17:32,151 --> 00:17:36,354 But, uh, whatwe need is a reIiabIe judge. 152 00:17:37,156 --> 00:17:40,358 As director offoreign Iitigation, maybe you couId heIp us find one. 153 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,361 According to this report, there was a judge. 154 00:17:43,662 --> 00:17:46,865 WeII, he baiIed out, Ieft us hoIding the bag... 155 00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:49,367 Mm-hmm. With three defendants in the bag. 156 00:17:49,668 --> 00:17:51,369 They've been in custody for months. 157 00:17:51,670 --> 00:17:54,272 The East is demanding either their heads or their bodies. 158 00:17:54,573 --> 00:17:58,043 We have to deIiver something ifwe want them to protect our civiI aviation... 159 00:17:58,344 --> 00:18:01,479 from other such excursions, to Cuba, for instance. 160 00:18:01,781 --> 00:18:05,150 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You said "reIiabIe judge." 161 00:18:05,451 --> 00:18:07,152 You knowwhat I mean, Bruno. 162 00:18:07,953 --> 00:18:10,655 Atough, no-nonsense judge, possibIy a former prosecutor. 163 00:18:11,457 --> 00:18:13,992 Look, we need this thing overwith-- one, two, three. 164 00:18:14,293 --> 00:18:17,262 Does anybody spring to mind? 165 00:18:52,898 --> 00:18:55,834 - Good morning, judge. - Bruno, weIcome aboard! 166 00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:58,536 - Did you take your shoes off? - I remembered. 167 00:18:58,838 --> 00:19:01,172 I'II be rightwith you. 168 00:19:12,952 --> 00:19:16,154 Yankee doodIe went to London just to ride a pony. 169 00:19:16,956 --> 00:19:19,157 I am thatYankee doodIe guy! 170 00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:40,445 Oh, my! Marsha wouId Iove this! 171 00:19:40,746 --> 00:19:44,048 I didn't reaIize the justice Department had a maid service. Thank you. 172 00:19:44,350 --> 00:19:47,385 ItwouId appear, esteemed judge, that you're the one who's been cIeaning up. 173 00:19:47,686 --> 00:19:49,821 Six mayors and, uh-- Eight. 174 00:19:50,122 --> 00:19:51,689 WeII, who's counting? 175 00:19:51,991 --> 00:19:56,628 What is it, a coupIe of state secretaries, two state treasurers? 176 00:19:56,929 --> 00:19:59,731 Extortion, bribery, fraud. 177 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:03,001 You shouId have had a sign over your door-- "Abandon hope, aII who Iitigate here." 178 00:20:05,604 --> 00:20:08,306 You're not such a bad prosecutor. Do you miss it? 179 00:20:08,607 --> 00:20:11,576 What do you think? 180 00:20:15,981 --> 00:20:20,451 They've been in the custody ofthe United States that Iong without a triaI or a hearing? 181 00:20:21,253 --> 00:20:22,453 The man stiII is. 182 00:20:23,255 --> 00:20:25,957 The woman and chiId were reIeased due to Iack of evidence but are confined to West BerIin. 183 00:20:26,258 --> 00:20:28,560 - Pending what? - History. 184 00:20:28,861 --> 00:20:33,064 Since the Iron Curtain, no one has ever stood triaI for escaping from the East, 185 00:20:33,365 --> 00:20:35,066 but hijacking is different. 186 00:20:35,367 --> 00:20:37,936 Nowwe're taIking about internationaI treaty agreements, 187 00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:40,738 which, by the way, we have just signed, with aII the internationaI attention. 188 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,740 So no one wants that day in court. 189 00:20:43,042 --> 00:20:45,610 We certainIy don't, and we occupy West BerIin. 190 00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:49,514 The West Germans don'twant it. So it's heads we Iose, taiIs you win. 191 00:20:49,815 --> 00:20:51,883 So why don't they do that? Just toss a coin. 192 00:20:52,184 --> 00:20:55,053 - They did. We won. - We did? 193 00:20:55,354 --> 00:20:59,057 The chanceIIery has had a very persuasive influence on the White House. 194 00:20:59,358 --> 00:21:02,493 This wiII be the first such United States court for BerIin. 195 00:21:02,795 --> 00:21:04,495 AII the procedures wiII beAmerican, 196 00:21:05,297 --> 00:21:06,898 as wiII the Iawyers and the judge. 197 00:21:07,199 --> 00:21:09,367 You caII that "winning the toss"? 198 00:21:09,668 --> 00:21:11,736 Of course, esteemed judge. We have you. 199 00:21:12,037 --> 00:21:16,741 You'II become an ArticIe Two judge with fuII dipIomatic passport. 200 00:21:17,042 --> 00:21:19,544 This couId mean a better shot at the Supreme Court. 201 00:21:21,847 --> 00:21:24,816 - How much time, you figure? - No time at aII. 202 00:21:25,117 --> 00:21:26,818 Case is open-and-shut. 203 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,320 This man, HeImut ThieIe, confessed to everything. 204 00:21:29,622 --> 00:21:32,690 He was quite candid in his statement, heId back nothing. He was proud of it. 205 00:21:32,992 --> 00:21:34,993 He was gIad to be Iocked up. 206 00:21:35,794 --> 00:21:37,362 Are our prisons so much better than their streets? 207 00:21:37,663 --> 00:21:39,631 I want to discuss it with Marsha before I agree. 208 00:21:39,932 --> 00:21:42,900 There'II be no pIea bargaining. You know how I feeI about that. 209 00:21:43,202 --> 00:21:46,170 Do I know how you stand on that? Oi, gevaIt! 210 00:21:46,472 --> 00:21:48,840 This was aII we heard in Iaw schooI. How does it go? 211 00:21:49,642 --> 00:21:52,844 "Accept pIea onIy ifthe scope of a punishment... 212 00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:56,347 afforded under the pIea is adequate to meet the nature ofthe crime." 213 00:21:56,649 --> 00:21:58,616 "Never bind the judge's hands... 214 00:21:58,917 --> 00:22:00,385 in advance." 215 00:22:01,186 --> 00:22:02,787 What did Bruno say? 216 00:22:03,088 --> 00:22:05,056 He said he's sorry he missed you. 217 00:22:05,357 --> 00:22:07,558 That's very sweet. What did the man say? 218 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:10,561 It's an open-and-shut case, shouIdn't take any time at aII. 219 00:22:10,863 --> 00:22:12,563 CouId be Iike a second honeymoon for us, Iove. 220 00:22:13,365 --> 00:22:15,600 He said the weather in BerIin is beautifuI this time ofyear. 221 00:22:15,901 --> 00:22:19,604 I think it's very beautifuI right here in New jersey. Ah, what do you know. 222 00:22:19,905 --> 00:22:23,241 - You've aIready made your mind up, haven't you? - Yes, I have. 223 00:22:23,542 --> 00:22:26,110 Mm-hmm. Why? 224 00:22:26,412 --> 00:22:28,613 If it's an open-and-shut case, where's the chaIIenge? 225 00:22:28,914 --> 00:22:32,417 - This couId mean a Iot to me, Marsha. - Oh, Herbert, Herbert. 226 00:22:32,718 --> 00:22:35,753 Your ambition is showing. 227 00:22:36,055 --> 00:22:38,890 Good God! You're 42 years oId and a federaI judge. 228 00:22:39,191 --> 00:22:41,125 What more do you want? It's good enough for me. 229 00:22:41,427 --> 00:22:44,762 - You think I don't know that? - I don't beIieve it. 230 00:22:45,064 --> 00:22:48,032 - A jewish judge in BerIin? - Oh, what's that got to do with it? 231 00:22:48,334 --> 00:22:51,336 God, Herbert, we don't have a singIe reIative Ieft aIive in Europe. 232 00:22:52,137 --> 00:22:55,473 We don't even have a grave to visit. How can you be impartiaI? 233 00:22:55,774 --> 00:22:57,975 Maybe that's the chaIIenge, Marsha. 234 00:22:58,277 --> 00:23:00,912 Can I be a fairjudge anywhere, under any circumstances? 235 00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:03,281 Here, on the moon or in Germany? 236 00:23:49,161 --> 00:23:51,863 They found me a job! 237 00:25:05,103 --> 00:25:07,538 HeIIo, Papa! You're going to drive a taxi? 238 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,974 Ja. 239 00:25:10,275 --> 00:25:12,477 Ataxi. 240 00:25:21,019 --> 00:25:24,222 I don't understand why you bring me here in such a way. 241 00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:28,726 Sigrid, I brought you here because I have to share some information with you. 242 00:25:29,027 --> 00:25:33,097 I'm sorry. I had a very interesting visit this morning from a Maria Schuster. 243 00:25:33,398 --> 00:25:36,300 Hmm? Ex-wife of a certain Hans Schuster. 244 00:25:36,602 --> 00:25:39,270 She says her husband is being heId captive in East Germany... 245 00:25:40,072 --> 00:25:42,273 because of anotherwoman-- you. 246 00:25:43,976 --> 00:25:45,676 Now I understand it aII. 247 00:25:45,978 --> 00:25:50,548 You've kept siIent so as not to jeopardize Hans Schuster's position. 248 00:25:51,383 --> 00:25:53,084 Sigrid, you cannot protect him, 249 00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:55,086 nor can your siIence heIp him. 250 00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:57,088 He's in jaiI in East Germany, 251 00:25:57,389 --> 00:26:00,858 and there's nothing we can do about it. 252 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,054 May I? 253 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,060 Cigarette? 254 00:26:36,361 --> 00:26:39,564 Russian? No. French. 255 00:26:39,865 --> 00:26:42,066 Foreign ministry. 256 00:26:42,367 --> 00:26:44,068 Uri Davidovitch Andreyev. 257 00:26:44,369 --> 00:26:48,072 Assistant to the first secretary for security, 258 00:26:48,373 --> 00:26:51,342 internationaI department ofthe Party CentraI Committee. 259 00:26:51,643 --> 00:26:53,177 I'm flattered. 260 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,683 Your East German comrades must think me very important... 261 00:26:59,484 --> 00:27:02,053 to run to the Iong apron strings of Mother Russia. 262 00:27:02,354 --> 00:27:04,555 I suppose that they might. 263 00:27:04,856 --> 00:27:07,558 These forgeries are remarkabIe. 264 00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:10,561 Are you in the business of arranging defections? 265 00:27:13,865 --> 00:27:15,566 My name is Hans Schuster. 266 00:27:16,368 --> 00:27:18,569 I'm an eIectricaI engineer empIoyed by a construction firm... 267 00:27:19,371 --> 00:27:21,572 that does business on both sides ofthe waII. 268 00:27:21,873 --> 00:27:25,576 I met Sigrid Radke in February of 1977. 269 00:27:25,877 --> 00:27:27,578 We feII in Iove. 270 00:27:27,879 --> 00:27:30,581 The fact thatwe Iived in two differentworIds was an inconvenience... 271 00:27:30,882 --> 00:27:32,617 I sought to overcome. 272 00:27:32,918 --> 00:27:35,119 I was to secure for Sigrid and her daughter... 273 00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:37,121 counterfeit West German I.D. passes, 274 00:27:37,923 --> 00:27:41,125 rendezvous with them in PoIand where, thanks to the faIse I.D.s, 275 00:27:41,426 --> 00:27:45,630 we wouId aII board a ship bound for Bremen and the free worId. 276 00:27:45,931 --> 00:27:48,899 ObviousIy, my pIan faiIed. 277 00:27:49,201 --> 00:27:50,901 And HeImut ThieIe? 278 00:27:51,203 --> 00:27:53,904 Awaiter, a friend of Sigrid's. 279 00:27:54,206 --> 00:27:56,907 He has chiIdren in the West, I beIieve. 280 00:27:57,209 --> 00:27:59,276 You do that very weII. 281 00:28:01,246 --> 00:28:04,482 Sixweeks of practice pay off. 282 00:28:09,287 --> 00:28:13,024 - Mother Russia beIieves you. - Then I don't understand. 283 00:28:13,325 --> 00:28:15,526 Why the waiting? 284 00:28:15,827 --> 00:28:18,896 Try me. Try me for the crimes to which I've confessed. 285 00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:22,400 Get it overwith. I wouId Iike that. 286 00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:25,136 I beIieve you had nothing to do with the hijacking. 287 00:28:25,437 --> 00:28:28,439 What hijacking? The PoIish airIiner. 288 00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:31,776 The one they forced to take them to West BerIin. My God. 289 00:28:32,077 --> 00:28:34,745 They are free? Yourfriends are not free. 290 00:28:35,047 --> 00:28:37,748 At this moment, they are in prison, Iike you, waiting to go on triaI. 291 00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:39,684 That can't be true. 292 00:28:39,985 --> 00:28:43,688 No one has ever been tried in the West for escaping from the East. 293 00:28:43,989 --> 00:28:47,124 Correct. TheAmericans wiII do it for us. TheAmericans? 294 00:28:47,426 --> 00:28:49,560 They wiII be the first. That's impossibIe. 295 00:28:49,861 --> 00:28:53,030 Oh, no. In aII fairness to the free worId, 296 00:28:53,331 --> 00:28:56,901 we shaII Iet theAmerican court estabIish your sentence in their triaI. 297 00:28:57,202 --> 00:29:00,738 We shaII be watching very carefuIIy. 298 00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:03,240 The waII, Herr Schuster, 299 00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:06,243 iffour meters high and 160 kiIometers Iong. 300 00:29:06,545 --> 00:29:08,245 You are in the construction business. 301 00:29:08,547 --> 00:29:11,749 You know how-- 302 00:29:12,050 --> 00:29:14,251 You know how expensive that can be. 303 00:29:15,053 --> 00:29:18,756 One of my duties is to make sure aII that money doesn't go to waste. 304 00:29:19,057 --> 00:29:23,527 In that sense, I, too, am in the construction business. 305 00:29:23,829 --> 00:29:27,364 But ifyou are, in fact, in the profession of... engineering escapes, 306 00:29:27,666 --> 00:29:30,234 then your stay here wiII be indefinite. 307 00:29:36,308 --> 00:29:38,509 Herr Schuster, pIease beIieve, 308 00:29:38,810 --> 00:29:41,011 there's nothing personaI in what I teII you. 309 00:29:41,313 --> 00:29:44,749 I knowwhat a man wiII do for Iove. 310 00:29:45,050 --> 00:29:47,084 But the Iaw's the Iaw. 311 00:30:30,896 --> 00:30:32,530 I think Marsha was right. 312 00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:36,033 Aboutwhat? A jewish judge in BerIin. 313 00:30:36,334 --> 00:30:40,037 Somehow it doesn't sitweII. The Iegacy's aII wrong. 314 00:30:40,338 --> 00:30:42,039 Legacy schmegacy. 315 00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:45,309 Ajudge is a judge is a judge, bubeIeh. What's this? 316 00:30:45,610 --> 00:30:49,613 Confessions you asked for. ThieIe and Radke. 317 00:30:49,915 --> 00:30:52,116 I don't envy the defense here. 318 00:30:52,417 --> 00:30:55,619 How can any Iawyer defend a skyjacking? 319 00:30:55,921 --> 00:30:58,489 Do you have a Iist ofthe pIayers? Prosecution and defense. 320 00:30:58,790 --> 00:31:01,358 Judah Best for the man. 321 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,230 Thought you'd be interested in the woman's counseIor. Bernie HeIIring? 322 00:31:06,531 --> 00:31:08,999 Sixweeks they had Radke and the girI. 323 00:31:09,301 --> 00:31:13,003 Sixweeks with HeIIer working on them day in and day out, every day. 324 00:31:13,305 --> 00:31:14,872 And he got nothing. 325 00:31:15,173 --> 00:31:17,541 Yet the moment Radke is reIeased, 326 00:31:17,843 --> 00:31:21,345 she comes bouncing back, eager to turn herseIf in, 327 00:31:21,646 --> 00:31:24,882 with a carbon copy ofThieIe's confession on her Iips, right? 328 00:31:25,183 --> 00:31:28,085 Right. And we're supposed to beIieve it, right? 329 00:31:28,386 --> 00:31:29,787 Why? Because she confessed. 330 00:31:30,088 --> 00:31:32,056 BuIIshit. 331 00:31:32,357 --> 00:31:35,960 This is not a free-flowing confession. It's too pat, too constructed. 332 00:31:36,761 --> 00:31:38,462 There's got to have been more said. 333 00:31:39,264 --> 00:31:43,000 Questions, answers, comments, smaII taIk, something, anything. 334 00:31:43,301 --> 00:31:44,869 Now, what about the other passengers? 335 00:31:45,170 --> 00:31:48,339 - Did they see anything, hear anything? - No. Nothing. 336 00:31:49,140 --> 00:31:51,842 And even ifthey had, they wouIdn't say anything to heIp us. 337 00:31:52,611 --> 00:31:56,347 I mean, they aII have reIatives in the East. Ahh. 338 00:31:59,150 --> 00:32:00,784 Uh, Frau Becker, 339 00:32:01,086 --> 00:32:03,721 do you think you couId get hoId of a copy... 340 00:32:04,522 --> 00:32:06,156 ofthe fuII transcript... 341 00:32:06,458 --> 00:32:08,959 of Sigrid's interview with HeIIer? 342 00:32:11,263 --> 00:32:12,963 I'II see what I can do. 343 00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:15,366 Good girI. Thank you. 344 00:32:17,335 --> 00:32:20,537 AII rise. 345 00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:24,775 God save the United States and this honorabIe court. 346 00:32:25,076 --> 00:32:26,844 You may be seated. 347 00:32:27,145 --> 00:32:30,714 May I, Your Honor, for the record, introduce the counseIors for both tabIes? 348 00:32:31,016 --> 00:32:35,986 Representing the prosecution is the United States attorney for BerIin, Mr. Edwin PaImer: 349 00:32:36,288 --> 00:32:39,490 Mr. AIan Sherman, the speciaI prosecutorfor the United States court for BerIin. 350 00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:44,228 Representing the defendant, Mr. HeImut ThieIe, is Mr. Judah Best. 351 00:32:44,529 --> 00:32:47,264 Representing Miss Sigrid Radke is Mr. Bernard HeIIring. 352 00:32:47,565 --> 00:32:50,501 German counseI for the defendants, Ms. Kim Becker. 353 00:32:50,802 --> 00:32:53,337 Thank you, Mr. Ristau. 354 00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:56,173 I want to emphasize that the purpose of this preIiminary hearing... 355 00:32:56,474 --> 00:32:58,542 is not to determine the guiIt or innocence of either accused, 356 00:32:58,843 --> 00:33:01,111 but soIeIy to determine ifthe United States, 357 00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:05,049 which has been caIIed upon to exercise jurisdiction in connection with this matter, 358 00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:07,051 can find probabIe cause to beIieve... 359 00:33:07,352 --> 00:33:10,721 that one or both ofthe defendants has committed a crime. 360 00:33:11,022 --> 00:33:13,357 In which case, the accused wiII be heId over for a fuII triaI. 361 00:33:13,658 --> 00:33:15,192 Now then, Mr. Sherman, 362 00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:18,562 I understand a compIaint has been fiIed against each ofthese defendants. 363 00:33:18,863 --> 00:33:22,333 - That is correct, Your Honor. - PIease inform the court ofthe charges. 364 00:33:23,134 --> 00:33:26,003 Your Honor, the defendants, HeImut ThieIe and Sigrid Radke, 365 00:33:26,304 --> 00:33:30,341 have been charged with four counts in vioIation of the West German penaI code-- 366 00:33:30,642 --> 00:33:32,810 first, hijacking an airpIane: 367 00:33:33,111 --> 00:33:36,146 second, taking a hostage-- to wit, the LOT stewardess: 368 00:33:36,448 --> 00:33:39,583 third, depriving the passengers ofthat pIane oftheir Iiberty: 369 00:33:39,884 --> 00:33:42,953 and fourth, doing bodiIy harm to another-- to wit, the stewardess. 370 00:33:43,421 --> 00:33:46,690 Besides that, Your Honor, the defendant ThieIe has been charged... 371 00:33:46,992 --> 00:33:49,927 with a fifth count-- possession of a firearm without a Iicense. 372 00:33:50,228 --> 00:33:54,064 Are you prepared to demonstrate there is probabIe cause to hoId the defendants on these charges? 373 00:33:54,366 --> 00:33:56,400 - I am, Your Honor. - Very weII. You may caII yourfirstwitness. 374 00:33:56,701 --> 00:33:59,737 CoIoneI Patrick HeIIer. 375 00:33:59,971 --> 00:34:02,773 Can you teII us what your investigation has shown... 376 00:34:03,074 --> 00:34:05,509 regarding what happened on the pIane before it Ianded? 377 00:34:05,810 --> 00:34:09,813 The airpIane was Iocated 15 minutes from SchoenefeId Airport in East BerIin... 378 00:34:10,115 --> 00:34:12,016 when, according to his confession, 379 00:34:12,317 --> 00:34:14,651 HeImut ThieIe made his way to the gaIIey, 380 00:34:15,353 --> 00:34:18,188 grasped the hair ofthe stewardess, Beata Levandovska, 381 00:34:18,490 --> 00:34:20,024 pIaced a pistoI to her head... 382 00:34:20,325 --> 00:34:22,559 and forced her to the floor ofthe aircraft. 383 00:34:22,861 --> 00:34:27,097 He then toId the crew that ifthey did not Iand in TempeIhofAirport, 384 00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:29,933 he wouId shoot the stewardess. 385 00:34:30,235 --> 00:34:34,838 CoIoneI HeIIer, isn't it true that from August 30... 386 00:34:35,140 --> 00:34:37,841 to September 10, 1978, 387 00:34:38,143 --> 00:34:40,344 Sigrid Radke was heId against herwiII... 388 00:34:41,146 --> 00:34:43,213 and without benefit of counseI on your orders? 389 00:34:43,515 --> 00:34:46,550 Objection. That is immateriaI to the statement made on November 28... 390 00:34:46,851 --> 00:34:48,952 when she came in voIuntariIy to set the record straight. 391 00:34:49,254 --> 00:34:50,821 Sustained. 392 00:34:51,122 --> 00:34:54,258 Mr. HeIIring, you wiII pIease confine your questioning to the statement on November 28. 393 00:34:56,828 --> 00:34:58,429 Isn't it true, CoIoneI, 394 00:34:58,730 --> 00:35:02,132 that the onIy shred of evidence you have against Mrs. Radke... 395 00:35:02,434 --> 00:35:04,134 is her own statement, 396 00:35:04,436 --> 00:35:08,005 since none ofthe passengers on the airpIane actuaIIy saw her do any-- 397 00:35:08,306 --> 00:35:10,140 I object. Mr. HeIIring is Ieading the witness. 398 00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:14,511 Your Honor, every singIe passenger on that pIane was interrogated. 399 00:35:15,313 --> 00:35:18,515 I think the question demands an answer. I agree. OverruIed. 400 00:35:19,317 --> 00:35:21,418 PIease continue, Mr. HeIIring. Thank you, sir. 401 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,420 I'II repeat the question. 402 00:35:23,721 --> 00:35:27,357 Isn't it true that the onIy evidence you have against Mrs. Radke... 403 00:35:28,093 --> 00:35:29,626 is her own statement? 404 00:35:29,928 --> 00:35:31,428 Yes, I wouId say that. 405 00:35:31,729 --> 00:35:35,299 Isn't it aIso true that Mrs. Radke toId you... 406 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,801 that she had begged Mr. ThieIe not to go through with the hijacking... 407 00:35:38,503 --> 00:35:40,637 and that actuaIIy she attempted to prevent it? 408 00:35:40,939 --> 00:35:43,307 - Objection, Your Honor. - OverruIed. 409 00:35:43,608 --> 00:35:45,209 The witness wiII pIease answer that question. 410 00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:47,978 She did say that. Yes, she-- 411 00:35:48,279 --> 00:35:52,483 What Sigrid Radke may or may not have said to ThieIe on that pIane doesn't matter. 412 00:35:52,784 --> 00:35:55,752 The point is, she did use her own daughter to smuggIe a gun onboard, 413 00:35:56,054 --> 00:35:58,489 and she did hand that gun to ThieIe. 414 00:35:58,790 --> 00:36:02,526 Then she did nothing whatsoever to warn the captain, the crew or the passengers... 415 00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:06,296 that a hijacking-- ahijacking-- was about to take pIace. 416 00:36:06,598 --> 00:36:09,266 I'm incIined to agree with you, Mr. Sherman, 417 00:36:09,567 --> 00:36:12,269 butwhether or not Mrs. Radke attempted to withdraw from the scheme... 418 00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:16,373 is a matter to be decided at a triaI, not at this preIiminary hearing. 419 00:36:16,674 --> 00:36:18,942 Anything further, Mr. HeIIring? 420 00:36:19,244 --> 00:36:20,944 No, Your Honor. Nothing further. 421 00:36:21,746 --> 00:36:23,213 Does the government wish to reexamine? 422 00:36:23,515 --> 00:36:27,551 Not at this time, Your Honor. Very weII. The witness may step down. 423 00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:34,124 Ladies and gentIemen, at this time, 424 00:36:34,893 --> 00:36:37,728 the court ruIes that there is probabIe cause-- 425 00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:40,164 Excuse me, Your Honor. - Mr. Best? 426 00:36:40,465 --> 00:36:45,102 Yes, Your Honor. Um, I've been advised by my coIIeague, Frau Becker, 427 00:36:45,904 --> 00:36:50,574 that there is here in BerIin a perfectIy vaIid constitution very simiIar to our own, 428 00:36:50,875 --> 00:36:53,443 simiIar in its protection of individuaI rights. 429 00:36:53,745 --> 00:36:58,815 But it doesn't provide for the specific eIements of due process as we understand them, 430 00:36:59,117 --> 00:37:02,653 in particuIar, the right to a triaI byjury. 431 00:37:02,954 --> 00:37:06,757 My cIientwouId Iike to know at this time if he wiII have a triaI before his peers-- 432 00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:08,659 citizens of BerIin-- 433 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,662 as guaranteed by theAmericanConstitution. 434 00:37:15,967 --> 00:37:19,369 Uh, Mr. Best, I can onIy assure you, as a federaI judge-- 435 00:37:19,671 --> 00:37:22,339 Excuse me. Your Honor, excuse me. 436 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,276 Mr. Chairman? I beIieve Mr. PaImerwouId Iike to respond to that now. 437 00:37:26,578 --> 00:37:28,278 Mr. PaImer? 438 00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:31,014 - May I approach the bench, Your Honor? - You may. Mr. Best? 439 00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:40,357 I'm sure Your Honor wiII appreciate the reIuctance... 440 00:37:40,658 --> 00:37:43,627 with which we approach this compIex question at this time, 441 00:37:43,928 --> 00:37:47,564 but I do not beIieve thatwe are actuaIIy bound by Iaw... 442 00:37:47,865 --> 00:37:50,234 to extend those rights. 443 00:37:53,238 --> 00:37:54,938 Mr. United States Attorney, 444 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:57,774 it is the farthest thing from my mind to embarrass you or your cIient, 445 00:37:58,076 --> 00:38:01,912 but notjust the defense, but aII of us-- the counseI, the court, the peopIe-- 446 00:38:02,213 --> 00:38:04,815 are entitIed to know the Iimits ofthis court's authority. 447 00:38:05,116 --> 00:38:07,417 Your Honor-- Excuse me. Mr. PaImer. 448 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,355 Is it the government's position that the Constitution ofthe United States... 449 00:38:11,656 --> 00:38:14,324 appIies here fuIIy or something Iess? 450 00:38:14,626 --> 00:38:18,161 We're not prepared to give a definitive position on that issue, sir. 451 00:38:18,463 --> 00:38:21,398 We wouId argue in an American court-- I'm sorry. GentIemen. 452 00:38:21,699 --> 00:38:24,101 We're not having an argument on this today. Be seated, pIease. 453 00:38:32,610 --> 00:38:34,978 We wiII next proceed to arraign the defendants... 454 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,215 and reconvene here next Monday morning to set a firm date for triaI. 455 00:38:38,516 --> 00:38:40,183 Adjourned. 456 00:38:46,824 --> 00:38:50,394 Open-and-shut case. Piece of cake. 457 00:38:50,695 --> 00:38:54,431 ShouIdn't take any time at aII. Right, Bruno? 458 00:39:57,061 --> 00:39:59,763 I'II provide the entertainment from here on. 459 00:40:00,064 --> 00:40:01,765 Hey, that's MarIene Dietrich. 460 00:40:02,066 --> 00:40:05,669 Greatest Iegs-- Ah, second greatest Iegs in the worId. 461 00:40:07,438 --> 00:40:10,140 I don't hear anything. 462 00:40:10,441 --> 00:40:14,644 Oh, from continent to continent, some things never change. 463 00:40:14,946 --> 00:40:17,647 HeIIo. Yeah, Bruno. What's up? 464 00:40:19,951 --> 00:40:23,553 What the heII you mean, no jury triaI? 465 00:40:23,855 --> 00:40:26,523 "The United States authority in BerIin is derived... 466 00:40:26,824 --> 00:40:29,393 from rights of conquest, not the consent ofthe government." 467 00:40:29,694 --> 00:40:32,863 So, in otherwords, the citizens ofWest BerIin have no rights at aII. 468 00:40:33,164 --> 00:40:36,299 "The United States court for BerIin is an instrument ofthe occupation poIicy... 469 00:40:37,101 --> 00:40:38,301 "ofthe United States. 470 00:40:39,103 --> 00:40:41,304 "The decision whether to grant a jury triaI... 471 00:40:41,606 --> 00:40:44,174 is a poIiticaI and not a judiciaI question." 472 00:40:44,475 --> 00:40:46,610 Don't Iook at me, judge. I didn'twrite it. 473 00:40:46,911 --> 00:40:48,979 So who did write it, AdoIf HitIer? 474 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,282 "The decision whether to grant a jury triaI... 475 00:40:52,583 --> 00:40:56,787 is a poIiticaI and not a judiciaI question." 476 00:40:58,089 --> 00:41:00,490 This, as I understand it, Your Honor, 477 00:41:00,792 --> 00:41:03,293 is theposition ofthese prosecutors... 478 00:41:04,095 --> 00:41:05,662 for the United States ofAmerica. 479 00:41:05,963 --> 00:41:10,133 I have been abIe to find onIy one IegaI precedent... 480 00:41:10,435 --> 00:41:12,636 for theirposition, Your Honor. 481 00:41:12,937 --> 00:41:16,640 It is the case caIIed Cat versus Mouse, 482 00:41:17,442 --> 00:41:20,644 from a foreign jurisdiction, 483 00:41:20,945 --> 00:41:24,648 from the casebook caIIed AIice'sAdventures in WonderIand. 484 00:41:24,949 --> 00:41:29,553 "A cat named Fury said to a mouse that he met in the house, 485 00:41:29,854 --> 00:41:33,056 "'Let us both go to Iaw. I wiII prosecute you. 486 00:41:33,357 --> 00:41:35,292 "'Come, I'II take no deniaI. 487 00:41:35,593 --> 00:41:38,462 "We must have the triaI, for reaIIy, this morning I have nothing to do.' 488 00:41:38,763 --> 00:41:41,932 "Said the mouse to the cur, 'Such a triaI, dear sir, 489 00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:44,968 "'with no jury orjudge... 490 00:41:45,770 --> 00:41:47,471 "wouId be wasting our breath.' 491 00:41:47,772 --> 00:41:52,476 "'I'II be the judge, I'II be the jury,' said the cunning oId Fury. 492 00:41:52,777 --> 00:41:55,979 I'II try the whoIe cause and condemn you to death."' 493 00:41:58,749 --> 00:42:00,784 For shame... 494 00:42:01,085 --> 00:42:03,787 that I shouId even have to rise to respond... 495 00:42:04,088 --> 00:42:07,290 to such aposition on behaIf of our country, 496 00:42:07,592 --> 00:42:12,295 a position written by peopIe somewhere in some foggy bottom... 497 00:42:12,597 --> 00:42:14,664 with some pretty foggy heads. 498 00:42:16,434 --> 00:42:19,135 I ask the court to ruIe, notjust for our cIients, 499 00:42:19,437 --> 00:42:21,137 but for the honor of our country, 500 00:42:21,939 --> 00:42:25,509 that these fugitives from another sociaI system be at Ieast entitIed... 501 00:42:25,810 --> 00:42:29,412 to due process ofthe Iaw in thisAmerican court. 502 00:42:32,617 --> 00:42:36,186 We do not understand the confusion on the part of the defense over this matter. 503 00:42:36,487 --> 00:42:39,523 WeII, this court is a IittIe confused too, Mr. PaImer. 504 00:42:39,824 --> 00:42:42,692 This court sits-- 505 00:42:42,994 --> 00:42:47,197 This court sits in conquered territory. It is an occupationaI court. 506 00:42:47,498 --> 00:42:51,902 Therefore, it stands to reason that it is an instrument ofAmerican foreign poIicy. 507 00:42:52,203 --> 00:42:56,072 It cannot, by definition, independentIy decide anything. 508 00:42:56,374 --> 00:43:00,010 So, in otherwords, this court must foIIow... 509 00:43:00,311 --> 00:43:02,012 the directives ofthe U.S. secretary of state? 510 00:43:02,813 --> 00:43:05,782 In otherwords, myjob here is to simpIy obey? I have nothing to decide? 511 00:43:06,083 --> 00:43:08,118 Not on the question ofthe jury triaI, no. 512 00:43:13,724 --> 00:43:16,426 Sir, are you teIIing me... 513 00:43:16,727 --> 00:43:19,796 that the Constitution ofthe United States does not appIy in this court? 514 00:43:20,097 --> 00:43:22,132 It is ourposition... 515 00:43:22,934 --> 00:43:26,136 thatwe're not restricted by the United States Constitution in these proceedings. 516 00:43:26,437 --> 00:43:30,140 That is correct. 517 00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:34,044 Did you ever hear anyone say that to anyjudge in an American courtroom anywhere? 518 00:43:34,345 --> 00:43:36,046 I have not. 519 00:43:36,347 --> 00:43:40,050 Two U.S. government prosecutors, one a bIack, the other a jew, they sound Iike Nazis. 520 00:43:43,621 --> 00:43:46,489 What the heII's going on here? 521 00:44:04,408 --> 00:44:06,109 Did you know this wouId be an issue? 522 00:44:06,410 --> 00:44:08,612 I didn't anticipate that, no. 523 00:44:08,913 --> 00:44:11,114 Do they reaIIy expect me to do the same thing... 524 00:44:11,415 --> 00:44:14,150 that Nuremberg prosecuted aII those German judges for doing here 45 years ago? 525 00:44:14,952 --> 00:44:18,755 You heard 'em, Bruno. They want me to be a good boy, foIIow the fuhrer's orders... 526 00:44:19,056 --> 00:44:23,259 and ruIe the defendants in my court are no more than a mere extension offoreign poIicy. 527 00:44:23,561 --> 00:44:26,763 They want me to become a goddamn Nazi judge! 528 00:44:29,767 --> 00:44:31,334 They can go to heII first. Knowwhat I'm gonna do? 529 00:44:31,636 --> 00:44:35,305 I'm gonna do what those German judges shouId have done in 1934. 530 00:44:35,606 --> 00:44:39,042 I'm gonna resign. They can get somebody eIse to do their dirty work. 531 00:44:39,343 --> 00:44:42,379 Herb, Iisten, if a jury of BerIiners... 532 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,416 is brought in to judge a case in which the United States is a Iitigant, 533 00:44:47,218 --> 00:44:49,419 then the conquered are judging the conquerors, 534 00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:52,422 and our status as an occupying power is at an end, 535 00:44:52,723 --> 00:44:54,290 and BerIin is a free city. 536 00:44:54,592 --> 00:44:59,763 Then the yogurt hits the fan, because the Russians wiII be here the next day. 537 00:45:00,498 --> 00:45:03,199 Now, aII I am saying is that this is not good guys and bad guys. 538 00:45:03,501 --> 00:45:05,201 This is the state, 539 00:45:05,503 --> 00:45:09,205 and PaImer and Sherman and in the unenviabIe position of representing the state... 540 00:45:10,007 --> 00:45:12,942 in what seems to be an inhumane poIicy. 541 00:45:13,244 --> 00:45:15,311 You work for the state. How do you stand? 542 00:45:18,983 --> 00:45:20,717 In this instance, 543 00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:24,087 I support the decision ofthe court. 544 00:45:26,257 --> 00:45:28,458 And that decision is mine aIone. 545 00:46:03,094 --> 00:46:07,664 Some honeymoon. "Weather in BerIin is beautifuI this time ofyear." 546 00:46:07,965 --> 00:46:12,435 I'm sorry. I'm just trying to understand what drives these peopIe. 547 00:46:12,737 --> 00:46:14,704 What the heII is it? 548 00:46:15,005 --> 00:46:16,706 Look at this! 549 00:46:18,509 --> 00:46:21,211 My God. That actuaIIy happened. 550 00:46:23,514 --> 00:46:27,183 Seventy peopIe have been kiIIed and more than 3,000 arrested... 551 00:46:27,985 --> 00:46:30,687 trying to cross that godforsaken waII. 552 00:46:30,988 --> 00:46:34,691 Now I have to sit in judgment on two that made it. 553 00:46:34,992 --> 00:46:36,693 How the heII can I do that, 554 00:46:36,994 --> 00:46:39,195 especiaIIy with the State Department breathing down my neck, 555 00:46:39,497 --> 00:46:41,698 teIIing me they have no right to a jury triaI? 556 00:46:41,999 --> 00:46:44,234 Herbert, you have made your point. 557 00:46:44,535 --> 00:46:46,236 This case isn'tjust a chaIIenge anymore. 558 00:46:47,037 --> 00:46:49,739 It has gone so far beyond that, and I'm getting scared now. 559 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,609 Why don't you Iet somebody eIse finish it and resign? 560 00:46:52,910 --> 00:46:55,078 Don't think I'm not seriousIy considering resigning, 561 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,080 but I have to wonder-- 562 00:46:57,882 --> 00:47:00,517 WhatwouId have happened if EarI Warren stopped defending the Constitution... 563 00:47:00,818 --> 00:47:03,019 before schooIs in the South were integrated? 564 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,523 What ifjudges Iike Frank johnson ofAIabama and Bob Merhige ofVirginia... 565 00:47:07,324 --> 00:47:08,525 hadn't fought for equaI rights? 566 00:47:09,326 --> 00:47:11,027 They firebombed Merhige's house, and he stiII heId firm. 567 00:47:11,328 --> 00:47:14,030 Who am I to waIk away when the Constitution's in jeopardy? 568 00:47:14,331 --> 00:47:17,567 Come off it, Don Quixote. Those guys were fighting for civiI rights. 569 00:47:17,868 --> 00:47:20,570 You're risking our entire future here for a coupIe of Germans. 570 00:47:20,871 --> 00:47:25,575 So that's it? You want me to take out the HoIocaust on them. 571 00:47:26,377 --> 00:47:28,578 BuIIshit. That is not the point at aII. Yes, ma'am. 572 00:47:28,879 --> 00:47:32,081 That is not the point at aII! That is the point, Marsha! 573 00:47:32,383 --> 00:47:35,518 You want me to bury these peopIe to make up for aII our graveIess reIatives. 574 00:47:35,820 --> 00:47:37,520 Let me teII you something. 575 00:47:37,822 --> 00:47:41,024 My soIe responsibiIity here is to uphoId my oath to the Constitution... 576 00:47:41,826 --> 00:47:44,260 and not to any government poIicies or personaI causes! 577 00:48:03,047 --> 00:48:05,715 Mr. PaImer, wiII you pIease approach the bench? 578 00:48:14,024 --> 00:48:17,193 Sir, this court rejects out of hand... 579 00:48:17,494 --> 00:48:20,196 any notion that these defendants have no rights here, 580 00:48:20,497 --> 00:48:25,201 and unIess and untiI a different United States judge for BerIin presides here, 581 00:48:25,502 --> 00:48:28,872 the Constitution wiII remain in fuII force and effect. Your Honor-- 582 00:48:29,173 --> 00:48:30,640 I'm caIIing your bIuff, Mr. PaImer. 583 00:48:31,442 --> 00:48:35,144 Ifthe occupationaI authorities do not bring a jury of BerIiners into this courtroom, 584 00:48:35,946 --> 00:48:39,649 I'm going to be forced to set these peopIe free. 585 00:48:42,386 --> 00:48:44,087 You know, I-- 586 00:48:44,388 --> 00:48:48,091 I aIways thought itwouId be different here in the West. 587 00:48:48,392 --> 00:48:50,326 Hans was aIways so optimistic. 588 00:48:50,628 --> 00:48:53,129 It is different here. 589 00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:55,632 Not perfect, 590 00:48:55,933 --> 00:48:58,034 but at Ieastwe can try to make our system work. 591 00:48:58,335 --> 00:49:00,303 Countries don't care who they hurt. 592 00:49:02,206 --> 00:49:04,707 What is the difference between one system and the other... 593 00:49:05,009 --> 00:49:07,210 when you have nothing? 594 00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:14,250 I'm sorry. 595 00:49:17,054 --> 00:49:19,255 I know you-- 596 00:49:19,556 --> 00:49:23,259 you're reaIIy a very good man and you're trying to do everything for Marina and me-- 597 00:49:24,061 --> 00:49:28,765 PIease, Sigrid, Iet me do it. Let me show how you were tricked into making your confession. 598 00:49:29,066 --> 00:49:31,267 No. 599 00:49:31,568 --> 00:49:34,771 Don't you see that these Russians are here? 600 00:49:35,072 --> 00:49:38,541 They're in court. They see everything. They Iisten, they watch. 601 00:49:38,842 --> 00:49:41,377 There's no hope for Hans ifthey know how he heIped us. 602 00:49:41,679 --> 00:49:44,981 - It's bound to come out sooner or Iater. - Okay, but not through me. 603 00:49:45,282 --> 00:49:47,483 It's our onIy defense, Sigrid. 604 00:49:47,785 --> 00:49:50,353 Then I have no defense. 605 00:49:53,157 --> 00:49:57,360 I wouId rather go to jaiI forfour orfive years than to hurt him. 606 00:49:57,661 --> 00:49:59,729 Butwe... PIease, you respect that! 607 00:50:00,030 --> 00:50:01,998 Don't know that it's four orfive years. 608 00:50:02,299 --> 00:50:05,168 We couId be Iooking at a sentence of 15 years. Doesn't matter. 609 00:50:05,469 --> 00:50:07,170 Oh, for God's sake! 610 00:50:07,972 --> 00:50:10,540 Save me from stupid seIf-sacrifice! 611 00:50:10,841 --> 00:50:12,809 TeII me something, Sigrid. 612 00:50:13,110 --> 00:50:17,313 WiII your sense of honor and virtue feed your daughter, put a roof over her head? 613 00:50:17,614 --> 00:50:20,817 WiII it keep her company for 15 years? 614 00:50:21,118 --> 00:50:22,819 WiII Hans want you to do that? 615 00:50:25,622 --> 00:50:27,323 I don't know. 616 00:50:28,625 --> 00:50:30,326 I just don't know! 617 00:50:48,379 --> 00:50:50,580 You wanted to see me? 618 00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:53,616 Yes. Thank you. 619 00:50:55,919 --> 00:50:58,488 Your newspapers here-- how accurate are they? 620 00:51:00,190 --> 00:51:02,392 SurprisingIy accurate, I'd say, 621 00:51:02,693 --> 00:51:04,761 especiaIIy regarding this particuIar triaI. 622 00:51:05,062 --> 00:51:09,399 So I can beIieve that Sigrid has not so far brought up my name? 623 00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:12,869 Her siIence may be an attempt to protect me. 624 00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:16,105 That's an act of Iove I can't accept. She must teII them. 625 00:51:16,407 --> 00:51:18,908 And you think that'II set you free? No. 626 00:51:19,209 --> 00:51:23,279 I'm worried for her. I'm worried for the chiId. 627 00:51:23,580 --> 00:51:25,615 - But you wouIdn't understand that. - ReaIIy? 628 00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:27,884 You are too pragmatic, you peopIe. 629 00:51:28,185 --> 00:51:31,320 "From each, according to his abiIity. 630 00:51:31,622 --> 00:51:33,189 To each, according to his need." 631 00:51:33,991 --> 00:51:36,692 Sounds so simpIe, beautifuI. 632 00:51:37,494 --> 00:51:40,696 Butwhere inDas KapitaI does it speak of Iove? 633 00:51:40,998 --> 00:51:44,801 I'm not sure what KarI Marx had in mind, but I know this isn'twhat God intended. 634 00:51:45,102 --> 00:51:49,138 - God taIks to you? - No. I just feeI with him. 635 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,909 Perhaps we have more in common than you know. 636 00:51:53,210 --> 00:51:54,811 Then heIp me. 637 00:52:00,250 --> 00:52:02,452 I have written a Ietter to her. 638 00:52:02,753 --> 00:52:05,021 You can read it ifyou wish. 639 00:52:05,322 --> 00:52:08,558 It asks her to teII the truth, to save herseIf. 640 00:52:08,859 --> 00:52:13,129 Nothing more. I cannot do that, Herr Schuster. 641 00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:16,499 I'II teII you who suppIied me with the passports, papers, 642 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,468 the forgeries-- everything! 643 00:52:19,269 --> 00:52:22,071 Herr Schuster, how do you thinkwe found you? 644 00:52:26,243 --> 00:52:27,677 Now, Mr. HeIIring. 645 00:52:27,978 --> 00:52:31,981 I understand that you wish to have the statement of November 28 suppressed. 646 00:52:32,282 --> 00:52:34,517 Is this true? Yes, it is, Your Honor. 647 00:52:34,818 --> 00:52:36,886 Very weII. I wiII hear your arguments, sir, 648 00:52:37,187 --> 00:52:39,889 but I hope it is possibIe for you to accommodate the sensibiIities ofthis court, 649 00:52:40,190 --> 00:52:42,258 or perhaps, more accurateIy, this judge. 650 00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:44,560 Your Honor, you'II forgive me... 651 00:52:44,862 --> 00:52:47,563 if I don't, uh, quite comprehend your meaning. 652 00:52:47,865 --> 00:52:49,465 Then I shaII be even and direct, sir. 653 00:52:49,766 --> 00:52:53,202 I hope there wiII be no more Iong and flowery speeches, Mr. HeIIring. 654 00:52:53,504 --> 00:52:57,473 Just simpIe, decIarative sentences, okay? 655 00:53:00,477 --> 00:53:02,678 Your Honor, I wiII attempt, 656 00:53:02,980 --> 00:53:04,680 with the greatest difficuIty, 657 00:53:04,982 --> 00:53:07,583 to controI my use ofthe Ianguage that I Iove, 658 00:53:07,885 --> 00:53:10,920 a Ianguage that embeIIishes the Iawwith grace notes. 659 00:53:11,722 --> 00:53:13,289 Let us get on with it, pIease. 660 00:53:13,590 --> 00:53:16,425 I'II try, Your Honor. Thank you, Mr. HeIIring. 661 00:53:16,727 --> 00:53:18,594 Why do you wish to have the statement suppressed? 662 00:53:18,896 --> 00:53:22,865 Your Honor, I have in this hand a statement, a confession. 663 00:53:23,167 --> 00:53:25,201 And in the other hand-- 664 00:53:25,502 --> 00:53:28,471 And in the other hand, I have a transcript... 665 00:53:28,772 --> 00:53:31,073 ofthat same confession, 666 00:53:31,375 --> 00:53:36,145 but incIuding the Ieading and coercive questions concocted by the interrogators. 667 00:53:36,446 --> 00:53:39,015 PIease remember your promise to the court, Mr. HeIIring. 668 00:53:39,316 --> 00:53:42,952 Now, are you teIIing me that that statement was not freeIy given, 669 00:53:43,253 --> 00:53:45,755 that Mrs. Radke did not come in voIuntariIy... 670 00:53:46,056 --> 00:53:47,957 to cIear the air, as Mr. Sherman assured the court? 671 00:53:48,258 --> 00:53:52,428 Take note, Your Honor, of how simpIe and decIarative I can be. 672 00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:54,664 Yes. 673 00:53:54,965 --> 00:53:57,767 - Objection, Your Honor. - OverruIed, Mr. Sherman. 674 00:53:58,068 --> 00:54:00,703 - How dare Mr. HeIIring-- - Mr. Sherman, you are overruIed. 675 00:54:01,004 --> 00:54:04,574 PIease sit down. 676 00:54:09,112 --> 00:54:12,181 - Who presided over this interrogation? - CoIoneI Patrick j. HeIIer. 677 00:54:12,482 --> 00:54:15,952 Mr. HeIIring, that transcript must be produced and marked into evidence. 678 00:54:17,487 --> 00:54:20,289 But, Your Honor, I'm afraid I cannot. 679 00:54:20,591 --> 00:54:23,926 - Mr. HeIIring? - My cIient-- I think itwouId be appropriate. 680 00:54:24,228 --> 00:54:26,929 Mr. HeIIring, I order you to show me that transcriptnow. 681 00:54:27,231 --> 00:54:30,099 No, but-- 682 00:54:31,768 --> 00:54:33,436 Excuse me for a moment, Your Honor. 683 00:54:33,737 --> 00:54:37,306 Sigrid, I'm sorry, but there's nothing I can do. 684 00:54:37,608 --> 00:54:39,709 The judge has ordered me. 685 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,828 Madam, I'm compeIIed to inform you, 686 00:54:59,630 --> 00:55:00,763 regretfuIIy, of course, 687 00:55:01,565 --> 00:55:04,267 that even ifyou continue to sacrifice yourseIf, there can be no guarantee... 688 00:55:04,568 --> 00:55:06,769 that the information contained in this transcript... 689 00:55:07,070 --> 00:55:09,772 wiII not be reveaIed during Mr. ThieIe's part ofthe triaI. 690 00:55:10,073 --> 00:55:13,709 Do you cIearIy understand this? Yes. 691 00:55:14,011 --> 00:55:18,447 Very weII. Mr. HeIIring, you may reexamine the witness. 692 00:55:21,551 --> 00:55:26,255 When Mrs. Radke was in custody, did she correspond with the outside worId? 693 00:55:26,556 --> 00:55:28,257 Yes, I beIieve she wrote some Ietters. 694 00:55:29,059 --> 00:55:32,261 You beIieve? You had copies made of every one ofthem. Isn't that true? 695 00:55:32,562 --> 00:55:34,230 Objection, Your Honor. 696 00:55:34,531 --> 00:55:38,434 Ifyour objection is vaIid, Mr. PaImer, you have nothing to fearfrom this question. 697 00:55:38,735 --> 00:55:40,269 PIease answer it, CoIoneI. Yes, I did. 698 00:55:40,570 --> 00:55:42,938 You had copies made of her Ietters. With her approvaI? 699 00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:45,941 She knew I was gonna be reading her maiI. She didn't know I'd be making copies. 700 00:55:46,243 --> 00:55:50,513 On whose orders? I was instructed by Mr. PaImer to review aII her maiI. 701 00:55:50,814 --> 00:55:53,416 Why? We were afraid she wouId reveaI her Iocation. 702 00:55:54,217 --> 00:55:56,919 You mean she was not permitted to teII anybody where she was being kept? 703 00:55:57,220 --> 00:55:59,422 We kept her Iocation a secret for her own security, sir. 704 00:55:59,723 --> 00:56:02,091 You feIt she was in danger here in TempeIhof? 705 00:56:02,392 --> 00:56:03,893 A U.S. miIitary base? Yes, sir. 706 00:56:04,194 --> 00:56:06,929 - Dangerfrom whom? - From the East Germans, sir. 707 00:56:08,699 --> 00:56:10,333 PIease continue, Mr. HeIIring. 708 00:56:11,134 --> 00:56:12,835 I have here a page from the transcript... 709 00:56:13,637 --> 00:56:17,340 ofyour November 28 interrogation of Mrs. Radke. 710 00:56:17,641 --> 00:56:20,209 What page is that, Mr. HeIIring? Page 13, Your Honor. 711 00:56:20,510 --> 00:56:21,977 Thank you. This is you speaking. 712 00:56:22,279 --> 00:56:25,681 "We understand what you went through when the papers did not come. 713 00:56:25,982 --> 00:56:29,585 "You thought that Hans had been arrested and the hijacking-- 714 00:56:29,886 --> 00:56:33,589 the hijacking is not such a bad thing." 715 00:56:35,392 --> 00:56:38,594 When you said this, were you trying to persuade her... 716 00:56:38,895 --> 00:56:40,596 or induce her to confess? 717 00:56:40,897 --> 00:56:44,100 My motive was to instruct her as to what information we had about Mr. Schuster. 718 00:56:44,401 --> 00:56:46,369 Excuse me, CoIoneI. Mrs. Bauer, 719 00:56:46,670 --> 00:56:49,772 I want that Iast question repeated, pIease. 720 00:56:50,073 --> 00:56:52,875 I want you to Iisten very carefuIIy to that question before you answer again. 721 00:56:53,176 --> 00:56:55,177 "When you made this statement, 722 00:56:55,479 --> 00:56:58,280 were you trying to persuade her or induce her to confess?" 723 00:56:58,582 --> 00:57:00,750 CoIoneI, do you now, under oath, 724 00:57:01,051 --> 00:57:04,587 read those words as an inducement? 725 00:57:04,888 --> 00:57:08,758 - I can't hear you. WouId you mind speaking up? - I said yes. Yes, I do. 726 00:57:10,394 --> 00:57:12,061 I shouIdn't have used those words. 727 00:57:12,863 --> 00:57:15,431 Itwas a poor choice ofwords on my part. 728 00:57:15,732 --> 00:57:18,367 And do you nowfind this sort of inducement consistent... 729 00:57:18,668 --> 00:57:21,237 with the duties of an officer of the U.S. Department of Defense? 730 00:57:21,538 --> 00:57:23,873 No. 731 00:57:24,174 --> 00:57:27,910 - No more questions, Your Honor. - Thank you, CoIoneI. You may step down. 732 00:57:32,015 --> 00:57:34,650 I find it to be a fact that the United States heId a defendant, 733 00:57:34,951 --> 00:57:38,988 Mrs. Radke, because they suspected that she was in Ieague with the defendant, Mr. ThieIe. 734 00:57:39,289 --> 00:57:42,725 And I find that without enough evidence to formaIIy charge her, 735 00:57:43,026 --> 00:57:46,629 they nonetheIess continued to hoId her and her chiId in iIIegaI custody. 736 00:57:46,930 --> 00:57:50,099 This court aIso finds that the defendant, Mrs. Radke, 737 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:55,070 was unIawfuIIy and unconstitutionaIIy induced by CoIoneI Patrick HeIIer... 738 00:57:55,372 --> 00:57:58,941 to give statements that she expIicitIy did notwish to give. 739 00:57:59,242 --> 00:58:01,877 AccordingIy, the court ruIes that the statement given... 740 00:58:02,179 --> 00:58:04,113 on November 28, 1973, 741 00:58:04,414 --> 00:58:06,849 may not be used in evidence against the defendant. 742 00:58:09,453 --> 00:58:11,153 And that it must be suppressed. 743 00:58:11,455 --> 00:58:14,156 Ifthe prosecution can make a case against Mrs. Radke without her statement, 744 00:58:14,958 --> 00:58:16,392 Iet it do so. 745 00:58:16,693 --> 00:58:19,495 If not, the case against her wiII be dismissed... 746 00:58:19,796 --> 00:58:21,997 and aII restraints upon herfreedom wiII be discharged. 747 00:58:25,068 --> 00:58:27,636 Your Honor? Yes, Mr. PaImer? What is your pIeasure? 748 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,009 WhiIe the United States occupation authorities beIieve that the court's order... 749 00:58:34,311 --> 00:58:36,946 regarding the defendant's constitutionaI right to a triaI byjury... 750 00:58:37,247 --> 00:58:39,748 are not correct as a matter of Iaw, 751 00:58:40,050 --> 00:58:42,585 they nevertheIess want to move these proceedings to a resoIution... 752 00:58:43,386 --> 00:58:46,088 and they wiII, therefore, endeavor to give effect to the court's order. 753 00:58:46,389 --> 00:58:49,358 Responding with one simpIe word, Mr. PaImer, 754 00:58:49,659 --> 00:58:52,094 do these defendants get a triaI byjury? 755 00:59:00,203 --> 00:59:02,137 Yes. 756 00:59:16,052 --> 00:59:18,754 FeeIing pretty seIf-satisfied, aren't you? 757 00:59:19,055 --> 00:59:20,623 Yup. 758 00:59:22,259 --> 00:59:24,960 A IittIe smug, maybe? 759 00:59:25,262 --> 00:59:26,962 Yup. 760 00:59:27,264 --> 00:59:29,999 You knew you'd win aII aIong, didn't you? 761 00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:32,001 Nope. 762 00:59:32,302 --> 00:59:35,504 Can you say anything but "yup" or "nope"? 763 00:59:35,805 --> 00:59:38,007 Nope. Yup. 764 00:59:38,308 --> 00:59:41,010 Terrific. I'm married to Gary Cooper. 765 00:59:41,311 --> 00:59:43,746 Nope. SpencerTracy. 766 00:59:47,384 --> 00:59:50,819 We are reconvened to hear a pretriaI motion to dismiss the case... 767 00:59:51,121 --> 00:59:52,488 against Mrs. Radke. 768 00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:56,358 Your Honor, at this time the United States wishes... 769 00:59:56,660 --> 01:00:00,029 to dismiss its case against Sigrid Radke. 770 01:00:00,330 --> 01:00:04,066 Mr. PaImer, I think she needs much more than that, sir. 771 01:00:04,367 --> 01:00:06,902 Are you prepared to use your occupationaI authority... 772 01:00:07,704 --> 01:00:10,406 to forbid the German courts from pressing any further charges against her? 773 01:00:10,707 --> 01:00:13,909 Yes. Then the motion is granted. 774 01:00:14,210 --> 01:00:16,312 - Mr. HeIIring. - Sir. 775 01:00:16,613 --> 01:00:19,248 - The case against your cIient is dismissed. - Thank you, sir. 776 01:00:28,291 --> 01:00:31,060 An update on the TempeIhof hijack triaI. 777 01:00:31,361 --> 01:00:35,064 FoIIowing the acquittaI of Sigrid Radke, her attorney, Bernard HeIIring, 778 01:00:35,365 --> 01:00:37,967 has announced he'II stay on as ThieIe's defense. 779 01:00:39,636 --> 01:00:42,338 We Russians have no heritage of common Iaw... 780 01:00:42,639 --> 01:00:44,340 with its habeas corpus: 781 01:00:44,641 --> 01:00:47,343 no historicaI traditions of pubIic poIiticaI debates. 782 01:00:48,144 --> 01:00:49,845 Power is power, quite simpIy, 783 01:00:50,647 --> 01:00:53,349 and a triaI is nothing more than anarchy. 784 01:00:53,650 --> 01:00:56,852 This judge, this man Stern, 785 01:00:57,153 --> 01:00:58,854 why is he so ungovernabIe? 786 01:00:59,155 --> 01:01:02,791 This judge has a distorted sense ofwhat serves the best interests ofthe United States. 787 01:01:03,593 --> 01:01:06,795 Notjust the United States. My government is worried, Mr. WiIde. 788 01:01:07,097 --> 01:01:09,064 Worried enough to have put me on a pIane. 789 01:01:09,366 --> 01:01:12,167 And before I embark once again, I expect us... 790 01:01:12,469 --> 01:01:15,671 to have found a soIution thatwiII dissuade others from hijacking pIanes... 791 01:01:15,972 --> 01:01:17,673 or other such acts ofterrorism. 792 01:01:18,475 --> 01:01:20,175 ThieIe must be sentenced to a term in jaiI. 793 01:01:20,477 --> 01:01:23,178 The record must show his crime was indeed a crime-- 794 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,180 Even if I were to agree with you, Mr. Andreyev, 795 01:01:25,482 --> 01:01:28,183 there is nothing I can do to force the decision of a jury. 796 01:01:38,995 --> 01:01:41,697 What in the name of God is happening here? 797 01:01:41,998 --> 01:01:44,733 You said you wanted 500 prospective jurors, judge. 798 01:01:45,035 --> 01:01:46,735 I guess this is them. 799 01:01:47,037 --> 01:01:49,238 These are Russian soIdiers, aren't they? Sure are. 800 01:01:49,539 --> 01:01:52,741 What are they doing here? Waiting for us to strangIe in our own contradictions. 801 01:01:53,043 --> 01:01:55,744 Steve, what the heII are these Russian soIdiers doing here? 802 01:01:56,046 --> 01:01:57,746 They're here to intimidate the jurors. 803 01:01:58,548 --> 01:01:59,748 Can't you do anything about that? No, sir. 804 01:02:00,483 --> 01:02:04,553 Why not? 'Cause ifwe continue to cross into East BerIin, 805 01:02:04,854 --> 01:02:06,855 then I can't stop them from coming. 806 01:02:07,157 --> 01:02:09,358 You want more cops? No, for God's sake. No more bodies. 807 01:02:09,659 --> 01:02:12,227 Just get everybody inside. AII right. Everyone in. Let's go. 808 01:02:12,529 --> 01:02:14,830 Is this working? Yeah. 809 01:02:15,131 --> 01:02:17,833 Ladies and gentIemen, weIcome to the United States court for BerIin. 810 01:02:23,540 --> 01:02:27,342 Under our system ofjustice, a jury, and a jury aIone, 811 01:02:27,644 --> 01:02:30,312 has the power to decide what has been proven... 812 01:02:30,613 --> 01:02:33,716 and what has not been proven in a court of Iaw. 813 01:02:34,017 --> 01:02:36,185 OnIy those peopIe who are chosen jurists, 814 01:02:36,486 --> 01:02:38,554 the 12 men and women randomIy seIected from the community, 815 01:02:38,855 --> 01:02:41,957 wiII have the right to decide the facts ofthis case... 816 01:02:42,258 --> 01:02:45,461 and, based upon those facts, determine the guiIt or innocence ofthe accused. 817 01:02:45,762 --> 01:02:47,696 Ladies and gentIemen ofthe jury, 818 01:02:48,498 --> 01:02:51,200 we are here so that you can determine... 819 01:02:51,501 --> 01:02:54,703 the guiIt or innocence of a man. 820 01:02:55,004 --> 01:02:58,707 Now, is this a man with criminaI intent? 821 01:02:59,008 --> 01:03:02,144 Is this a man who couId steaI, 822 01:03:02,445 --> 01:03:05,147 who wouId kiII? 823 01:03:05,448 --> 01:03:10,252 Now, what kind of a man is HeImutAIexanderThieIe? 824 01:03:10,553 --> 01:03:14,590 You reaIize the PoIish crew-- the piIot and the stewardess-- 825 01:03:14,891 --> 01:03:16,458 they'II aII testify. 826 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,728 Yes. It's good. They wiII teII the truth. 827 01:03:20,029 --> 01:03:23,565 I didn't come to West BerIin to give the kind offaIse confession... 828 01:03:24,367 --> 01:03:25,634 they take in the East. 829 01:03:25,935 --> 01:03:28,837 I want the triaI the judge said I couId have. 830 01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:31,340 I want to be judged by my own peopIe. 831 01:03:31,641 --> 01:03:33,208 He was standing over her. 832 01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:37,679 The stewardess, you mean? Yes. Beata Levandovska. 833 01:03:37,981 --> 01:03:40,682 He was hoIding her by the hairwith one hand, 834 01:03:40,984 --> 01:03:45,087 and in his other hand he was hoIding a pistoI at her head. 835 01:03:45,388 --> 01:03:47,990 And what did he do then? He demanded thatwe Iand in West BerIin. 836 01:03:48,291 --> 01:03:50,359 If his demands are not fuIfiIIed, 837 01:03:50,660 --> 01:03:52,261 he wiII shoot Beata Levandovska. 838 01:03:52,562 --> 01:03:57,633 Captain, can you in this courtroom see the man who heId the pistoI to Beata's head? 839 01:03:57,934 --> 01:03:59,935 He is there. 840 01:04:00,170 --> 01:04:02,538 Let the record show, Your Honor, 841 01:04:02,839 --> 01:04:06,542 that the witness has identified HeImut ThieIe. Very weII. 842 01:04:06,843 --> 01:04:09,745 Go on, Captain. What did you do then? 843 01:04:10,046 --> 01:04:12,047 First I began to anaIyze the situation, 844 01:04:12,849 --> 01:04:16,518 then I decided to fuIfiII the request. 845 01:04:16,820 --> 01:04:19,154 The demand to Iand at TempeIhof. 846 01:04:19,956 --> 01:04:24,092 And, Captain, why didn't you Iand at SchoenefeId anyway, as you were scheduIed to do? 847 01:04:24,394 --> 01:04:27,596 Nobody gave me nor can give me... 848 01:04:27,897 --> 01:04:31,233 neither a moraI right nor a written Iaw... 849 01:04:31,534 --> 01:04:33,569 authorizing me to risk the heaIth and Iife... 850 01:04:33,870 --> 01:04:35,938 of passengers entrusted to me. 851 01:04:36,239 --> 01:04:38,607 Of course, Captain. 852 01:04:38,908 --> 01:04:40,976 At the moment I feIt a sharp jerk. 853 01:04:41,277 --> 01:04:43,478 Somebody puIIed me by the hair. 854 01:04:43,780 --> 01:04:47,382 I feIt something-- some hard object being pressed firmIy to the back of my head. 855 01:04:47,684 --> 01:04:49,585 - So I couIdn't move. - And what did you hear? 856 01:04:49,886 --> 01:04:52,888 I heard the man demand thatwe fly to West BerIin. 857 01:04:53,189 --> 01:04:55,390 He said, aIso, that I shouIdn't move. 858 01:04:56,192 --> 01:04:57,492 If I move, he wiII kiII me. 859 01:04:57,794 --> 01:05:00,295 And unIess the crew does as he says, he wiII kiII me too. 860 01:05:00,597 --> 01:05:03,732 Where was the gun? Pointed at the back of my head, the whoIe time untiI we Ianded. 861 01:05:04,033 --> 01:05:06,568 And this gun thatwas pointed at the back ofyour head... 862 01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:08,737 for those interminabIe moments, 863 01:05:09,038 --> 01:05:11,940 do you knowwhat gun itwas, 864 01:05:12,242 --> 01:05:14,276 what sort of gun itwas? 865 01:05:14,577 --> 01:05:16,778 I don't know. I couIdn't see the gun. 866 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,147 He was hoIding it to the back of my head. 867 01:05:19,449 --> 01:05:22,885 TeII me, how did that make you feeI? 868 01:05:25,188 --> 01:05:27,155 I was-- I was terrified. 869 01:05:27,457 --> 01:05:30,859 Miss Levandovska, you said that Mr. ThieIe... 870 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:35,731 heId you by the hair whiIe he kept a gun pressed against your head. 871 01:05:36,032 --> 01:05:38,267 Now, was this the whoIe time? 872 01:05:38,568 --> 01:05:41,136 Yes, itwas the whoIe time. UntiI you Ianded at TempeIhof, right? 873 01:05:41,437 --> 01:05:45,607 Yes. That's right. And where was Mr. ThieIe standing? 874 01:05:45,909 --> 01:05:49,845 Uh, he was standing behind me. Behind you? 875 01:05:50,146 --> 01:05:52,648 Behind me. Uh, Mr. Best, wouId you mind, pIease? 876 01:05:52,949 --> 01:05:55,150 Thank you very much. Your Honor, if itwouId not offend the court, 877 01:05:55,451 --> 01:05:57,953 may I, uh-- Yes, of course, Mr. HeIIring. 878 01:05:58,254 --> 01:05:59,755 Thank you, sir. 879 01:05:59,989 --> 01:06:04,192 Like this? Uh, is this the way he heId you? 880 01:06:04,494 --> 01:06:08,196 Yes, itwas Iike that. Yes. And during this time, were you smoking a cigarette? 881 01:06:08,498 --> 01:06:11,199 Yes, I did. Yes. Whose cigarette? 882 01:06:11,501 --> 01:06:14,102 Mr. ThieIe's cigarette. He didn't aIIow us to smoke our own. 883 01:06:14,404 --> 01:06:16,939 Yes. And was anybody eIse smoking? 884 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,808 Yes, the steward, Mr. GavIik and Mr. ThieIe. 885 01:06:20,109 --> 01:06:21,543 He smoked too. He did? 886 01:06:22,345 --> 01:06:24,046 Yes, he did. 887 01:06:24,347 --> 01:06:27,549 And, uh, these cigarettes-- Where did he keep them? 888 01:06:28,351 --> 01:06:32,821 Uh, in the pocket. In his coat pocket. 889 01:06:35,391 --> 01:06:38,760 Uh, did, uh-- did somebody eIse take them out for him? 890 01:06:39,062 --> 01:06:42,264 Yes, itwas the steward, Mr. GavIik. 891 01:06:42,565 --> 01:06:44,566 He took the cigarettes out ofthe pocket. 892 01:06:44,867 --> 01:06:47,602 And who Iit Mr. ThieIe's cigarette? 893 01:06:47,904 --> 01:06:50,572 I did. Uh, Mr. ThieIe was stiII behind you, 894 01:06:50,873 --> 01:06:54,343 hoIding your hair in one hand and the gun in the other, and you Iit his cigarette? 895 01:06:54,644 --> 01:06:56,611 That is right. 896 01:06:56,913 --> 01:07:00,415 Uh, is it true that when Mr. ThieIe was asked... 897 01:07:00,717 --> 01:07:02,651 why he was hijacking the pIane, 898 01:07:02,952 --> 01:07:04,987 he said he was doing it for his famiIy? 899 01:07:05,288 --> 01:07:06,922 - Is that true? - Yes, that is true. 900 01:07:07,223 --> 01:07:11,226 Now, when he said this, did he aIso show any pictures of his famiIy? 901 01:07:16,566 --> 01:07:19,835 WouId you, uh, Iike the question repeated? 902 01:07:20,636 --> 01:07:24,840 No. He couIdn't show us the picture... 903 01:07:25,141 --> 01:07:28,844 because, uh-- because he was hoIding me the whoIe time. 904 01:07:29,145 --> 01:07:31,847 He asked Mr. GavIik to Iook for the pictures in his waIIet. 905 01:07:32,148 --> 01:07:36,318 Uh, excuse me, Mr. HeIIring. Madam, maybe I'm not hearing this correctIy. 906 01:07:36,619 --> 01:07:38,820 You say he was standing behind you, 907 01:07:39,122 --> 01:07:41,690 hoIding your hair in one hand and he had a gun in the other? 908 01:07:41,991 --> 01:07:43,992 Is that correct? Yeah, that's correct. 909 01:07:44,293 --> 01:07:48,363 Then can you expIain how he managed to pass the cigarettes around... 910 01:07:48,664 --> 01:07:50,899 and give this other man his waIIet? 911 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,635 Did he have more than two hands at the time? 912 01:07:56,439 --> 01:08:01,443 I do not know how he did it. I had my back to him. 913 01:08:04,547 --> 01:08:07,749 So sorry I missed. Oh, that's aII right. What's so urgent? 914 01:08:08,051 --> 01:08:10,752 Remember those three gentIemen in court today? 915 01:08:11,554 --> 01:08:14,656 The one who seemed to make the PoIish crew so fuII of discomfort? 916 01:08:14,957 --> 01:08:16,491 Yes. I've done some snooping. 917 01:08:16,793 --> 01:08:20,429 Mr. GavIik, you testified that Mr. ThieIe... 918 01:08:20,730 --> 01:08:24,466 entered the, uh, gaIIey ofthe airpIane brandishing a gun... 919 01:08:24,767 --> 01:08:27,469 and yeIIing that he was gonna shoot Miss Beata Levandovska. 920 01:08:28,271 --> 01:08:29,704 Is that right? Yes, sir. That's correct. 921 01:08:30,006 --> 01:08:33,942 And where were you at the time? Um, in the gaIIey. 922 01:08:34,243 --> 01:08:37,479 Uh-huh. And where was Miss, uh, Levandovska? 923 01:08:37,780 --> 01:08:40,482 Um, she was in the gaIIey too. 924 01:08:43,219 --> 01:08:45,420 You seem a IittIe nervous, Mr. GavIik. 925 01:08:45,721 --> 01:08:49,724 Is there somebody in the pubIic gaIIery that you know? 926 01:08:50,026 --> 01:08:51,293 No. You sure? 927 01:08:51,594 --> 01:08:52,994 Yes. Uh-huh. 928 01:08:55,264 --> 01:09:00,802 Uh, do you know a man by the name of RoIand AIeksandrovitch? 929 01:09:01,104 --> 01:09:03,305 I know him onIy by name. 930 01:09:03,606 --> 01:09:08,276 Uh-huh. And do you know him to be the prosecutor generaI from Warsaw? 931 01:09:08,578 --> 01:09:10,946 Yes. 932 01:09:11,247 --> 01:09:12,814 WeII, is he in this court? 933 01:09:13,116 --> 01:09:14,749 I don't know. 934 01:09:15,051 --> 01:09:17,319 You don't know? Right. 935 01:09:17,620 --> 01:09:20,722 WiII Mr. RoIand AIeksandrovitch pIease rise? 936 01:09:21,023 --> 01:09:24,426 Objection, Your Honor. Who may or may not be in the gaIIery has IittIe bearing. 937 01:09:24,727 --> 01:09:26,928 OverruIed. Go on, Mr. HeIIring. 938 01:09:27,730 --> 01:09:31,099 WiII Mr. AIeksandrovitch stand, pIease? 939 01:09:32,902 --> 01:09:35,737 Now, is this the man you know to be... 940 01:09:36,038 --> 01:09:38,240 RoIand AIeksandrovitch? 941 01:09:38,541 --> 01:09:40,242 Yes. Just a moment, sir. 942 01:09:41,043 --> 01:09:44,112 Have you ever discussed your testimony with him? No. 943 01:09:44,413 --> 01:09:46,114 Never? No. 944 01:09:46,415 --> 01:09:48,617 Anywhere? No, sir. 945 01:09:48,918 --> 01:09:52,354 You cIaim to know him onIy by name. 946 01:09:52,655 --> 01:09:55,357 Do you deny coming to the courtwith him today? 947 01:09:55,658 --> 01:09:58,627 Do you deny that he brought you from PoIand and wiII take you back again? 948 01:09:58,928 --> 01:10:01,897 Objection. I have no more use for this witness, Your Honor. 949 01:10:02,198 --> 01:10:04,432 His credibiIity speaks for itseIf. 950 01:10:04,734 --> 01:10:08,303 You gotta hand it to Bernie and judah. They're kicking the government's ass. 951 01:10:08,604 --> 01:10:10,672 You've booted some butt yourseIf, Your Honor. 952 01:10:10,973 --> 01:10:13,008 They didn't Ieave me any choice. 953 01:10:13,309 --> 01:10:16,011 Oh, they make it hard to resist. Can you bIame me? 954 01:10:16,312 --> 01:10:18,513 What's the defense gonna be? 955 01:10:18,814 --> 01:10:22,517 That ThieIe was justified in the hijacking... 956 01:10:22,818 --> 01:10:26,254 because he was going to be iIIegaIIy arrested if he Ianded in the East? 957 01:10:26,556 --> 01:10:29,558 That's a good question, Bruno, but the reaI probIem for the defense... 958 01:10:29,859 --> 01:10:32,060 is whether or not to put HeImut ThieIe on the stand. 959 01:10:32,361 --> 01:10:36,064 How can they have a defense if he doesn't testify? Keep your eye on thatwoman. 960 01:10:36,365 --> 01:10:38,500 I had known him for many years, 961 01:10:38,801 --> 01:10:42,003 and I aIso knew that he desperateIy wanted to go to West BerIin... 962 01:10:42,305 --> 01:10:44,005 to see his IittIe boys. 963 01:10:44,807 --> 01:10:46,508 His wife Maria, she was PoIish. 964 01:10:46,809 --> 01:10:51,012 She had Ieft him two years before and had taken the two boys with her to West BerIin. 965 01:10:51,314 --> 01:10:54,015 So HeImut feIt miserabIe without them. 966 01:10:54,317 --> 01:10:58,019 And Mrs. ThieIe never brought the boys back to see theirfather? 967 01:10:58,821 --> 01:11:00,455 No, never. 968 01:11:02,758 --> 01:11:05,460 WiII you now teII the court and the jury... 969 01:11:05,761 --> 01:11:09,297 exactIy how HeImut ThieIe became invoIved with the escape? 970 01:11:09,599 --> 01:11:12,334 My friend from Hamburg had the pIan... 971 01:11:13,135 --> 01:11:15,837 that first I wouId go aIone. 972 01:11:16,138 --> 01:11:21,343 But I was terrified. I had my chiId with me, and it's so dangerous. 973 01:11:21,644 --> 01:11:23,712 So with a friend I wouId feeI safer. 974 01:11:24,013 --> 01:11:26,448 I asked HeImut, and he said yes. 975 01:11:26,749 --> 01:11:29,784 So you both went to Gdansk together, 976 01:11:30,086 --> 01:11:33,788 and that is where yourfriend with the forged papers faiIed to show up? 977 01:11:34,090 --> 01:11:35,790 Yes. 978 01:11:36,092 --> 01:11:39,160 We knew something terribIe must have happened. 979 01:11:39,462 --> 01:11:41,930 He said he's been imprisoned, he's arrested. 980 01:11:42,231 --> 01:11:44,899 They caught him. Nowwe are finished. 981 01:11:45,201 --> 01:11:46,901 And the same thing wiII happen to us too. 982 01:11:47,203 --> 01:11:49,237 And that's when the pIan was hatched? 983 01:11:49,538 --> 01:11:52,040 I'm sorry. I don't know what "hatch" means. 984 01:11:52,341 --> 01:11:55,277 And that's when you made the hijacking pIan? 985 01:11:55,578 --> 01:11:57,479 Yes. We are very frightened. 986 01:11:57,780 --> 01:12:00,849 We don't knowwhat to do. We waIk. We argue. 987 01:12:01,150 --> 01:12:05,854 We are at the flea market when I recognize that my daughter has Ieft. 988 01:12:06,155 --> 01:12:11,693 So I see her staring onto something in the stand behind us. 989 01:12:11,994 --> 01:12:14,462 Marina! Then she says, "Mama," and I went back to her. 990 01:12:14,764 --> 01:12:17,966 I see a gun. She points at it. 991 01:12:18,267 --> 01:12:20,735 I see a gun, a toy gun. 992 01:12:21,037 --> 01:12:24,572 SuddenIy HeImut had the pIan thatwe shouId buy the gun, 993 01:12:24,874 --> 01:12:27,575 sneak it on the pIane and use it then... 994 01:12:27,877 --> 01:12:30,578 to divert the pIane to West BerIin. 995 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,582 I say, "It's crazy. We don't have any money, so how can we buy the gun? 996 01:12:35,384 --> 01:12:38,086 "And ifwe have the money, how can we get the gun on the pIane? 997 01:12:38,387 --> 01:12:42,590 And ifwe have it on the pIane, how to hijack a pIane with a toy? That's crazy." 998 01:12:43,392 --> 01:12:45,093 But he says, "For money, 999 01:12:45,394 --> 01:12:50,098 we shaII seII aII the cIothes we don't need at the flea market." 1000 01:12:50,399 --> 01:12:54,135 So soon we have enough. 1001 01:12:54,437 --> 01:12:57,105 He buys a bearfor Marina, 1002 01:12:57,406 --> 01:13:01,042 and I see the gun cIose up for the first time. 1003 01:13:01,344 --> 01:13:04,546 It's so smaII. Itwas absoIuteIy crazy. 1004 01:13:04,847 --> 01:13:08,983 I teII him we can't do it, - itwiII work. 1005 01:13:09,285 --> 01:13:12,153 WeII, how did you expect to get the gun through the customs? 1006 01:13:12,455 --> 01:13:15,557 Oh, that's my fear. 1007 01:13:15,858 --> 01:13:20,929 Security guards brought us to the private rooms where we are searched. 1008 01:13:21,230 --> 01:13:23,298 And that's when the gun was found? 1009 01:13:23,599 --> 01:13:26,801 Yes. The woman found it. 1010 01:13:27,103 --> 01:13:30,305 My heartwas ready to burst, but she gave it back to Marina... 1011 01:13:30,606 --> 01:13:33,174 and teIIs her to be carefuI with her toy. 1012 01:13:33,476 --> 01:13:38,713 Frau Radke, you've stated this gun doesn't Iook reaI to you. 1013 01:13:39,014 --> 01:13:40,749 Is that correct? Yes. 1014 01:13:41,550 --> 01:13:45,253 Then why did it Iook reaI-- the same gun-- to Beata when ThieIe heId it to her head? 1015 01:13:45,554 --> 01:13:47,756 I don't know-- Why did this same gun Iook reaI to the piIot... 1016 01:13:48,057 --> 01:13:50,258 WeII, I just toId you-- as he tried to Iand a pIane fuII of innocent passengers-- 1017 01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:53,261 The prosecution is harassing the witness. 1018 01:13:53,562 --> 01:13:56,631 Your Honor, it doesn't matterwhether this gun Iooked reaI or not-- 1019 01:13:56,932 --> 01:13:59,434 GentIemen, pIease. 1020 01:13:59,735 --> 01:14:03,371 There's been an objection that I've not had a chance to ruIe on. 1021 01:14:03,672 --> 01:14:06,307 Mr. HeIIring. It has aIready been weII estabIished, 1022 01:14:06,609 --> 01:14:11,312 Your Honor, that Mrs. Radke did not set foot in the cockpit. 1023 01:14:11,614 --> 01:14:14,315 So how couId she know what anyone was thinking? 1024 01:14:14,617 --> 01:14:16,317 Objection sustained. Thank you. 1025 01:14:16,619 --> 01:14:19,821 The witness wiII not answer the question. The jury wiII disregard it. 1026 01:14:20,122 --> 01:14:21,823 PIease continue, Mr. Sherman. 1027 01:14:22,124 --> 01:14:26,327 Mrs. Radke, in whose cIothing was the gun hidden? 1028 01:14:26,629 --> 01:14:28,830 In my daughter Marina's coat. 1029 01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:33,368 Why? Why, Mrs. Radke? Why did you use your own chiId? 1030 01:14:33,669 --> 01:14:35,370 I didn't use my own chiId. 1031 01:14:35,671 --> 01:14:38,706 I had to go through the customs to fooI the customs peopIe. 1032 01:14:39,008 --> 01:14:42,010 Beside ofthat, itwas just a IittIe toy. It doesn't Iook reaI. 1033 01:14:42,311 --> 01:14:44,712 What is wrong with a chiId with a toy? 1034 01:14:45,014 --> 01:14:49,117 Whose idea was it to use the seven-year-oId chiId? 1035 01:14:53,989 --> 01:14:56,624 Itwas HeImut's idea. 1036 01:14:56,926 --> 01:15:00,762 One Iast question. The defense has estabIished and the court has ruIed... 1037 01:15:01,063 --> 01:15:02,764 that you had nothing to do with this hijacking, 1038 01:15:03,065 --> 01:15:06,167 that, in fact, you never even set foot in the cockpit. 1039 01:15:06,469 --> 01:15:09,170 Yet you did hand ThieIe the gun, 1040 01:15:09,472 --> 01:15:11,673 and you did know what he was going to do. 1041 01:15:11,974 --> 01:15:14,042 The desperate act of a desperate man. 1042 01:15:14,343 --> 01:15:16,277 And you knew there was danger-- 1043 01:15:16,579 --> 01:15:18,680 for the passengers for the crew, for your own daughter. 1044 01:15:18,981 --> 01:15:21,349 Why did you do nothing to stop him? 1045 01:15:21,650 --> 01:15:23,518 Because itwas not possibIe. 1046 01:15:25,955 --> 01:15:28,056 Thank you. 1047 01:15:28,357 --> 01:15:30,458 HeImut, at-- at the courtroom, 1048 01:15:30,759 --> 01:15:32,861 you reaIIy have to beIieve me, I didn'twant to-- 1049 01:15:33,162 --> 01:15:36,731 PIease, you have to say the truth. This is okay. This is good. 1050 01:15:37,032 --> 01:15:40,835 But I was so confused. 1051 01:15:41,136 --> 01:15:44,172 They aII toId different stories-- the piIot, the stewardess. 1052 01:15:44,473 --> 01:15:47,442 At the end, I didn't know what's true and what's not true. 1053 01:15:47,743 --> 01:15:50,645 As you say, you couIdn't see. 1054 01:15:50,946 --> 01:15:53,114 HeImut, pIease-- 1055 01:15:53,415 --> 01:15:56,618 You remember on the pIane when I toId you to give me the gun? 1056 01:15:57,419 --> 01:16:00,054 Yeah. This was a moment I say to myseIf, "This is it," 1057 01:16:00,356 --> 01:16:03,558 and I go to the front ofthe pIane. 1058 01:16:03,859 --> 01:16:06,561 They were ready to Iand at SchoenefeId. 1059 01:16:07,363 --> 01:16:09,063 So I point the gun at the girI and say-- 1060 01:16:09,365 --> 01:16:11,466 Take me to West BerIin, or I wiII shoot her. 1061 01:16:11,767 --> 01:16:14,168 So it's true? You pointed it? 1062 01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:17,505 No, no. I didn't hurt her. I didn't hurt anybody. 1063 01:16:18,307 --> 01:16:20,408 I can't. I was totaIIy nervous. 1064 01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:23,344 BeIieve me. 1065 01:16:33,489 --> 01:16:36,391 Good, Guenther. 1066 01:16:36,692 --> 01:16:40,795 Do what you must do, but try to keep our name out of it. 1067 01:16:46,635 --> 01:16:48,336 Mr. HeIIring. 1068 01:16:49,138 --> 01:16:51,339 Yes? PIease, I must taIkwith you. 1069 01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,241 WeII, who are you? 1070 01:16:53,542 --> 01:16:56,010 I was on the airpIane with HeImut ThieIe. 1071 01:16:56,312 --> 01:16:59,781 Our Iastwitness, Your Honor, is a refugee from East Germany. 1072 01:17:00,015 --> 01:17:02,150 You may proceed. 1073 01:17:02,451 --> 01:17:05,653 Now, sir, on August 31, 1978, 1074 01:17:05,955 --> 01:17:11,159 you and yourwife and chiId were passengers on LOT flight 165. 1075 01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:13,661 Is that correct? Ja. 1076 01:17:13,963 --> 01:17:16,664 Yeah. And when the pIane Ianded at TempeIhof, 1077 01:17:17,466 --> 01:17:22,670 you both took advantage ofthe moment to defect? Ja. 1078 01:17:22,972 --> 01:17:25,673 But you were Ieaving yourfamiIy, everything behind you-- 1079 01:17:26,475 --> 01:17:29,577 yourfamiIy, yourfriends, possessions, yourwork. 1080 01:17:29,878 --> 01:17:31,846 And howwere you empIoyed? 1081 01:17:33,649 --> 01:17:38,386 Uh, I-I worked as a typesetter in the day, 1082 01:17:38,687 --> 01:17:42,890 and at night I was a student. 1083 01:17:43,192 --> 01:17:45,627 But I was expeIIed. 1084 01:17:45,928 --> 01:17:49,931 Why? I studied the German romanticists-- 1085 01:17:50,766 --> 01:17:52,967 Heine, SchiIIer-- 1086 01:17:53,268 --> 01:17:57,038 and then the French existentiaIists-- Camus and Sartre. 1087 01:17:57,339 --> 01:18:02,777 Then I write a term paper. Itwas criticaI ofthe party Iine. 1088 01:18:03,078 --> 01:18:08,383 Had you ever before had the impuIse to defect? 1089 01:18:08,684 --> 01:18:12,687 Oh, yeah. I was one oftwo chiIdren-- 1090 01:18:12,988 --> 01:18:16,691 myseIf, my oIder brother Peter-- 1091 01:18:16,992 --> 01:18:21,629 and we grew up in East BerIin, very cIose to the waII. 1092 01:18:21,930 --> 01:18:25,667 Uh, we aIways hated the waII. 1093 01:18:25,968 --> 01:18:28,670 We wouId aIways, uh, 1094 01:18:29,471 --> 01:18:32,674 dream of going over. 1095 01:18:34,476 --> 01:18:38,680 And one night about eight years ago, 1096 01:18:39,481 --> 01:18:43,184 uh, we decide to escape. 1097 01:18:43,485 --> 01:18:47,188 And we say good-bye to our mother. 1098 01:18:47,489 --> 01:18:52,193 We are praying that we wiII be together again, a famiIy again. 1099 01:18:52,995 --> 01:18:56,197 And at night, uh, 1100 01:18:56,498 --> 01:18:59,734 the bIood was pounding in my head. 1101 01:18:59,968 --> 01:19:02,170 Oh, mein Gott, howwe ran. 1102 01:19:02,471 --> 01:19:07,175 And we were running, and my brotherwas faster than I. 1103 01:19:07,476 --> 01:19:10,178 And he got to the waII, 1104 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,182 and I, uh, I faII very hard... 1105 01:19:14,483 --> 01:19:16,184 and I twisted my ankIe. 1106 01:19:16,485 --> 01:19:20,188 And, uh, then... 1107 01:19:20,489 --> 01:19:22,690 I hear shots, 1108 01:19:22,991 --> 01:19:25,193 and I Iook up... 1109 01:19:25,494 --> 01:19:29,197 and there is a-- 1110 01:19:29,498 --> 01:19:31,733 bang, bang, bang-- 1111 01:19:32,034 --> 01:19:34,736 and a Iong, tortured scream. 1112 01:19:35,037 --> 01:19:39,240 It's my brother screaming... 1113 01:19:39,541 --> 01:19:41,743 and faIIing. 1114 01:19:45,547 --> 01:19:48,750 And then, uh, the dogs-- 1115 01:19:49,051 --> 01:19:51,252 I hear these dogs. 1116 01:19:51,553 --> 01:19:54,756 They are growIing, making the horribIe noises. 1117 01:19:57,559 --> 01:19:59,761 Then nothing. 1118 01:20:00,562 --> 01:20:02,263 SiIence, ja? 1119 01:20:02,564 --> 01:20:05,800 And what couId I do? Nothing. 1120 01:20:10,739 --> 01:20:14,208 - For this I was arrested. - How oId were you? 1121 01:20:14,510 --> 01:20:16,611 Seventeen. 1122 01:20:16,912 --> 01:20:19,614 And you were imprisoned for how Iong? 1123 01:20:20,415 --> 01:20:23,484 Oh, uh, one years and three months. 1124 01:20:25,721 --> 01:20:29,423 You toId me that ifyou had been successfuI in escaping to the West, 1125 01:20:29,725 --> 01:20:33,427 you and your brotherwouId've bought your mother's freedom. 1126 01:20:33,729 --> 01:20:36,798 Have you done that? No. 1127 01:20:37,099 --> 01:20:40,835 They said that she wouId possibIy... 1128 01:20:41,136 --> 01:20:46,741 be aIIowed to join us, uh, when she became 65. 1129 01:20:47,042 --> 01:20:50,011 Yes. Objection, Your Honor. WouId Mr. HeIIring pIease-- 1130 01:20:50,312 --> 01:20:52,847 Your Honor, I am mereIy trying... 1131 01:20:53,148 --> 01:20:56,350 to define the character and credibiIity ofthis witness. 1132 01:20:57,152 --> 01:21:00,822 Objection sustained. WiII you pIease get to the point, Mr. HeIIring? 1133 01:21:01,123 --> 01:21:05,326 WiII you teII us now, pIease, to the best ofyour recoIIection, 1134 01:21:06,128 --> 01:21:09,730 exactIy what happened on that airpIane? 1135 01:21:11,834 --> 01:21:15,036 Uh, okay. 1136 01:21:15,337 --> 01:21:19,540 Uh, when we are about to Iand in SchoenefeId, 1137 01:21:19,842 --> 01:21:23,544 I'm in the restroom, and I come out... 1138 01:21:23,846 --> 01:21:27,048 so I am very cIose to the cockpit. 1139 01:21:27,349 --> 01:21:30,551 And I can hear inside a very strange-- 1140 01:21:30,853 --> 01:21:33,554 is, uh-- a conversation. 1141 01:21:34,356 --> 01:21:38,559 Uh, a man's voice says, uh, uh, 1142 01:21:39,361 --> 01:21:42,063 "This is a toy, this gun. 1143 01:21:42,865 --> 01:21:45,600 Why do you do something crazy Iike this?" 1144 01:21:45,901 --> 01:21:48,603 And another man's voice says, 1145 01:21:48,904 --> 01:21:53,107 "My chiIdren are in the West, and that is where I must be." 1146 01:21:53,408 --> 01:21:56,110 And then he says, 1147 01:21:56,912 --> 01:21:59,113 "I have of my chiIdren pictures." 1148 01:21:59,915 --> 01:22:03,551 WouId they Iike to see them? And I think they say yes. 1149 01:22:03,852 --> 01:22:07,321 And, uh, then, uh-- Oh, yes. 1150 01:22:07,623 --> 01:22:11,292 Uh, someone says, um, 1151 01:22:11,593 --> 01:22:14,795 "Do you have a Iight?" 1152 01:22:15,097 --> 01:22:18,299 And I think they are smoking cigarettes together. 1153 01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:22,303 I sense that they are in sympathy with this man... 1154 01:22:23,105 --> 01:22:26,307 and are considering schauspieIern-- 1155 01:22:27,109 --> 01:22:30,177 uh, uh, to pIayact... 1156 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,882 with him in this hijacking, and thatwe are on the ground here at TempeIhof. 1157 01:22:35,183 --> 01:22:39,687 And this man comes out. He says, "You are free." 1158 01:22:39,988 --> 01:22:45,192 And... I Iook at my wife. 1159 01:22:45,494 --> 01:22:49,196 I'm thinking aII these things, 1160 01:22:49,498 --> 01:22:52,199 um, that I have toId you, 1161 01:22:53,001 --> 01:22:55,703 and of my brother and my mother. 1162 01:22:56,004 --> 01:23:00,641 And my wife, she's thinking the same. 1163 01:23:00,943 --> 01:23:03,511 So we are decided. 1164 01:23:09,251 --> 01:23:12,853 Is there anything eIse you wish to add? 1165 01:23:18,427 --> 01:23:21,629 I... don't know how to say... 1166 01:23:22,431 --> 01:23:24,665 aII that shouId be said. 1167 01:23:24,967 --> 01:23:29,170 I want to thank so much... 1168 01:23:29,471 --> 01:23:32,673 Mr. ThieIe forwhat he has done for us. 1169 01:23:32,975 --> 01:23:36,677 He was abIe-- He had the courage... 1170 01:23:36,979 --> 01:23:40,181 to do whatwe aII have thought to do. 1171 01:23:47,489 --> 01:23:49,590 This is aII I have to say. 1172 01:23:51,393 --> 01:23:54,862 Ladies and gentIemen ofthe jury, 1173 01:23:55,163 --> 01:23:59,400 you have obviousIy reaIized that this is a unique triaI. 1174 01:24:01,636 --> 01:24:05,840 The court isAmerican, yetwe are here in Germany, 1175 01:24:06,641 --> 01:24:10,344 in BerIin, and the defendant, HeImut ThieIe, 1176 01:24:11,146 --> 01:24:12,847 is a German. 1177 01:24:13,148 --> 01:24:17,351 Now, you are Germans. I'm a German. 1178 01:24:17,652 --> 01:24:21,355 And we Germans do not need any additionaI evidence... 1179 01:24:21,656 --> 01:24:23,858 as of how many peopIe want to Ieave the East... 1180 01:24:24,659 --> 01:24:27,361 orwhy those peopIe want to Ieave. 1181 01:24:29,164 --> 01:24:32,600 I don't have to teII you why. They want to be free. 1182 01:24:32,901 --> 01:24:36,303 Butwhat is freedom? What does it mean? 1183 01:24:36,605 --> 01:24:40,307 Can you see freedom? Can you hearfreedom? 1184 01:24:40,609 --> 01:24:43,310 I say yes. Yes! 1185 01:24:44,112 --> 01:24:47,348 I say that each and every one of us has the right, 1186 01:24:47,649 --> 01:24:51,152 the duty to reach out and grab it, ifwe can. 1187 01:24:51,453 --> 01:24:54,922 Does it reaIIy matter what motives Mr. ThieIe might have had? 1188 01:24:55,223 --> 01:24:58,926 We are toId from the defense about Mr. ThieIe's sons in the West. 1189 01:24:59,227 --> 01:25:01,862 Yes, we aII have sons. We aII have famiIies. 1190 01:25:02,664 --> 01:25:04,899 Yet did Mr. ThieIe for one moment... 1191 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,402 think about the 68 innocent peopIe... 1192 01:25:08,703 --> 01:25:10,905 whose Iives he was putting in jeopardy? 1193 01:25:11,206 --> 01:25:13,574 Did he think abouttheirchiIdren? 1194 01:25:13,875 --> 01:25:17,645 The fact ofthe matter is that as human beings... 1195 01:25:17,946 --> 01:25:20,681 we care what happens to another human being. 1196 01:25:20,982 --> 01:25:25,186 And we care above and beyond our moraI beIiefs... 1197 01:25:25,487 --> 01:25:29,056 because-- because we're required to care. 1198 01:25:29,357 --> 01:25:31,826 Let us feeI sympathy. Let us feeI compassion. 1199 01:25:32,127 --> 01:25:34,829 Let us show understanding for aII ofthis. 1200 01:25:35,130 --> 01:25:37,832 But in the midst of aII our sympathy, compassion and understanding, 1201 01:25:38,633 --> 01:25:40,334 Iet's not forget that HeImut ThieIe... 1202 01:25:40,635 --> 01:25:42,837 hijacked an airpIane. 1203 01:25:43,138 --> 01:25:46,841 And ifthe defense weren't brandishing the word "freedom" whenever possibIe, 1204 01:25:47,142 --> 01:25:50,344 anotherword might - "terrorism." 1205 01:25:50,645 --> 01:25:53,848 A deIiberate attack on the safety of civiI aviation. 1206 01:25:54,149 --> 01:25:58,385 And nowhere in the worId-- nowhere-- is the protection of civiI aviation... 1207 01:25:58,687 --> 01:26:00,821 as important as it is here in West BerIin, 1208 01:26:01,123 --> 01:26:03,324 especiaIIy after the airIift. 1209 01:26:03,625 --> 01:26:06,327 So for that reason and aII ofthe other reasons we've shown, 1210 01:26:06,628 --> 01:26:08,996 you can have but one verdict. 1211 01:26:09,297 --> 01:26:12,466 - GuiIty. - GuiIty. 1212 01:26:12,767 --> 01:26:16,770 - GuiIty. - GuiIty. 1213 01:26:17,072 --> 01:26:19,807 IIIegaI possession - guiIty. 1214 01:26:32,053 --> 01:26:33,254 WiII the foreman pIease rise? 1215 01:26:34,055 --> 01:26:36,490 WiII the defendant pIease rise? 1216 01:26:36,791 --> 01:26:38,826 Madam Foreman, has the jury agreed upon a verdict? 1217 01:26:39,127 --> 01:26:41,128 Yes, we have. 1218 01:26:41,429 --> 01:26:45,065 What is the verdict ofthe jury with respect - hijacking? 1219 01:26:45,867 --> 01:26:47,902 - GuiIty or not guiIty? - Not guiIty. 1220 01:26:51,206 --> 01:26:54,375 Depriving persons of Iiberty. GuiIty or not guiIty? 1221 01:26:54,676 --> 01:26:57,044 Not guiIty. 1222 01:26:57,345 --> 01:27:00,147 Doing bodiIy injury. GuiIty or not guiIty? 1223 01:27:00,448 --> 01:27:02,783 Not guiIty. 1224 01:27:03,084 --> 01:27:05,286 IIIegaI possession of a firearm. 1225 01:27:05,587 --> 01:27:08,088 - GuiIty or not guiIty? - Not guiIty. 1226 01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:13,160 Taking a hostage. GuiIty or not guiIty? 1227 01:27:13,461 --> 01:27:18,399 GuiIty. 1228 01:27:18,700 --> 01:27:21,535 - SchuIdig? - Ja, schuIdig. 1229 01:27:30,812 --> 01:27:32,246 Thank you. 1230 01:27:32,547 --> 01:27:35,115 Madam Foreman, Iadies and gentIemen ofthe jury, 1231 01:27:35,417 --> 01:27:37,985 you have done aII that's been asked ofyou... 1232 01:27:38,787 --> 01:27:40,654 and yourwork is now compIeted. 1233 01:27:40,956 --> 01:27:43,524 I appreciate the sacrifice-- the personaI sacrifice-- 1234 01:27:43,825 --> 01:27:46,794 that each one ofyou has had to make in order to serve here. 1235 01:27:47,095 --> 01:27:49,797 You are dismissed nowwith the gratitude ofthe court... 1236 01:27:50,098 --> 01:27:52,132 and with my own personaI gratitude as weII. 1237 01:27:52,934 --> 01:27:54,635 Sentencing wiII be Monday morning. 1238 01:27:55,437 --> 01:27:57,638 AII rise. 1239 01:28:53,428 --> 01:28:55,129 Herb? Yeah, it's me. 1240 01:28:58,466 --> 01:29:01,101 Just out for a waIk. Sorry if I woke you. 1241 01:29:01,403 --> 01:29:03,604 I wasn't asIeep. Are you okay? 1242 01:29:03,905 --> 01:29:05,606 Yeah, I'm fine. 1243 01:29:05,907 --> 01:29:07,608 Our daughter caIIed. 1244 01:29:08,410 --> 01:29:10,611 Everything aII right at home? Mm-hmm. 1245 01:29:11,413 --> 01:29:13,614 She justwanted to know when we're getting back. 1246 01:29:13,915 --> 01:29:15,616 What'd you teII her? 1247 01:29:15,917 --> 01:29:18,619 I said a few days, I hope. 1248 01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,622 Guess what eIse. What? 1249 01:29:21,923 --> 01:29:24,625 She said they discussed you and theAdnesio case... 1250 01:29:25,427 --> 01:29:27,628 in her government cIass the other day. 1251 01:29:27,929 --> 01:29:29,630 ReaIIy? 1252 01:29:29,931 --> 01:29:32,166 And she was very proud. 1253 01:29:32,467 --> 01:29:34,668 WeII, I hope she'II be as proud... 1254 01:29:34,969 --> 01:29:38,172 when I sentence this poor son of a bitch next Monday morning. 1255 01:29:38,473 --> 01:29:41,175 The court, pIease. Mr. Sherman. 1256 01:29:41,476 --> 01:29:43,177 Your Honor, the prosecution wouId find... 1257 01:29:43,478 --> 01:29:46,647 that a term offour years is more than acceptabIe, 1258 01:29:46,948 --> 01:29:48,916 and that is our recommendation. 1259 01:29:49,217 --> 01:29:52,686 You're asking me to give you this man forfour years? 1260 01:29:52,987 --> 01:29:55,189 Not to me, Your Honor. To your cIient. 1261 01:29:55,490 --> 01:29:57,691 Yes, Your Honor. To the United States government. 1262 01:29:57,992 --> 01:30:00,761 I see. Thank you, Mr. Sherman. 1263 01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:09,703 This has been the most extraordinary case I've ever been invoIved in. 1264 01:30:10,004 --> 01:30:13,707 Not onIy have we had to baIance the safety of civiI aviation... 1265 01:30:14,008 --> 01:30:17,945 against fundamentaI human rights, not to mention compIex internationaI treaties, 1266 01:30:18,246 --> 01:30:21,749 but most extraordinary because we have had the judgment... 1267 01:30:22,050 --> 01:30:23,751 ofthe peopIe cIosest to the situation-- 1268 01:30:24,052 --> 01:30:26,153 the free citizens ofWest BerIin. 1269 01:30:26,955 --> 01:30:30,724 And now it is my duty to honor and enforce theirjudgment. 1270 01:30:31,025 --> 01:30:33,060 ImmediateIy after I was appointed here, 1271 01:30:33,361 --> 01:30:35,429 the prosecution fiIed a brief arguing... 1272 01:30:35,730 --> 01:30:38,699 that basic constitutionaI rights did not appIy in this court, 1273 01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,935 specificaIIy the guaranteed right of due process. 1274 01:30:42,237 --> 01:30:45,939 They tried to teII this judge how he must ruIe. 1275 01:30:46,241 --> 01:30:50,644 They pIaced themseIves above the Iaw and tried to turn this court into a charade. 1276 01:30:50,945 --> 01:30:53,647 I ruIed that such a thing was not possibIe... 1277 01:30:53,948 --> 01:30:56,884 in any court where that flag stands. 1278 01:30:57,185 --> 01:31:00,754 And now, Mr. Sherman, Mr. PaImer, I'm Ieft to wonder, 1279 01:31:01,055 --> 01:31:04,925 who wouId be here to protect Mr. ThieIe's rights if I did give him to you forfour years? 1280 01:31:05,226 --> 01:31:07,728 Because I beIieve you reaIIy mean itwhen you say... 1281 01:31:08,029 --> 01:31:10,731 he has no rights and there is no Iimit to your power. 1282 01:31:11,032 --> 01:31:15,769 I am aIso Ieft to wonder ifthis city needs another judge who foIIows orders. 1283 01:31:16,070 --> 01:31:20,774 Therefore, gentIemen, no, I wiII not give this man to you under these circumstances. 1284 01:31:21,075 --> 01:31:23,377 WiII the defendant pIease rise? 1285 01:31:25,146 --> 01:31:28,382 Mr. ThieIe, I sentence you to time served. 1286 01:31:28,683 --> 01:31:30,584 You are a free man, sir. 1287 01:31:38,426 --> 01:31:42,663 Ladies and gentIemen, these proceedings are concIuded. 1288 01:31:49,737 --> 01:31:52,406 Thank you. Whoo! 1289 01:33:16,257 --> 01:33:19,960 CIosed-Captioned By Captions, Inc. LosAngeIes 102375

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