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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,798 --> 00:00:08,175 [man] I love my country. 2 00:00:11,136 --> 00:00:14,264 But these, um... police officers... 3 00:00:18,101 --> 00:00:19,101 they, um... 4 00:00:20,646 --> 00:00:22,356 they killed me in '97. 5 00:00:24,858 --> 00:00:25,858 They, um... 6 00:00:28,445 --> 00:00:33,492 mind-raped me and made me believe I killed someone I loved. 7 00:00:43,001 --> 00:00:45,545 [man] People look you right in the eye and lie to you 8 00:00:46,088 --> 00:00:48,799 and destroy you and do it on purpose. 9 00:00:55,722 --> 00:00:57,450 [woman] As a television reporter on the scene, 10 00:00:57,474 --> 00:00:59,977 I've asked the question many times, "Did you do it?" 11 00:01:00,519 --> 00:01:04,314 And this was the first time that somebody actually said, "Yes." 12 00:01:04,398 --> 00:01:05,998 You feel any remorse about what happened? 13 00:01:06,525 --> 00:01:08,986 I wanna apologize to the family for what I've done. 14 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:12,906 I've committed... a crime that I can't take back. 15 00:01:13,615 --> 00:01:15,742 Police say Myers beat and strangled Haught 16 00:01:15,826 --> 00:01:18,912 before setting fire to the Mill Inn early Thursday morning. 17 00:01:25,502 --> 00:01:26,896 [woman] And I have played that night, 18 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,716 that moment, the questions that I asked, over and over in my own head. 19 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:33,218 He says he's sorry and he didn't mean to do it. 20 00:01:33,302 --> 00:01:36,638 I have no idea what kind of pressure 21 00:01:36,722 --> 00:01:39,433 and what kind of questions need to be put upon someone 22 00:01:39,516 --> 00:01:42,936 in order to go from, "No, I really didn't do it," 23 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,397 to, "Okay, yes, I did." 24 00:01:46,273 --> 00:01:48,191 [man] The police didn't give a damn. 25 00:01:48,275 --> 00:01:49,818 It was all a set-up. 26 00:01:51,445 --> 00:01:53,756 [woman] You don't know what goes on behind the closed doors. 27 00:01:53,780 --> 00:01:55,616 You don't know what's being said. 28 00:01:56,283 --> 00:01:57,576 I loved Teresa very much. 29 00:01:58,660 --> 00:02:02,664 And I'm very sorry for the hurt I've put on my family, her family. 30 00:02:02,748 --> 00:02:06,001 [woman] Usually, if somebody says, "I did it," you take them at their word. 31 00:02:06,084 --> 00:02:08,462 But things aren't always as they seem. 32 00:02:20,474 --> 00:02:22,684 [man] I met Wesley second grade. 33 00:02:23,352 --> 00:02:25,520 I mean, I don't know how old I was in second grade. 34 00:02:25,604 --> 00:02:27,898 I can't do the numbers in my head, but... 35 00:02:29,608 --> 00:02:33,153 [Terry] We just used to play in the creeks and fish down in the pond. 36 00:02:33,737 --> 00:02:38,825 His mother and father's just as much of a mother and father to me. 37 00:02:39,993 --> 00:02:43,997 I think he was like ten years old when I met him the first time. 38 00:02:46,291 --> 00:02:48,668 His mother and I worked in Charleston County. 39 00:02:48,752 --> 00:02:50,921 I was the music teacher, and she was the art teacher. 40 00:02:51,004 --> 00:02:54,091 He wandered over into my room and brought his guitar 41 00:02:54,174 --> 00:02:58,053 and sat down and played a song for me that he had written and sang. 42 00:02:59,179 --> 00:03:01,431 [Wesley] Grew up, I had a great family. 43 00:03:02,140 --> 00:03:06,019 Then I was married and my wife, she was pregnant, 44 00:03:06,103 --> 00:03:08,146 and a child was born. 45 00:03:08,688 --> 00:03:10,982 About three months after that, my wife, 46 00:03:11,066 --> 00:03:13,777 because she had knots on her neck and you could feel them, 47 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:18,490 we went to the doctor, and I knew as soon as I walked in there, 48 00:03:18,573 --> 00:03:21,952 and the look on his face... that it was cancer. 49 00:03:26,498 --> 00:03:28,667 And she had AML leukemia. 50 00:03:30,043 --> 00:03:31,211 It destroyed her. 51 00:03:33,422 --> 00:03:35,215 Before she died... 52 00:03:35,882 --> 00:03:37,884 she actually told me to go find somebody. 53 00:03:39,386 --> 00:03:41,596 And, uh, we separated. 54 00:03:47,394 --> 00:03:50,522 I met Teresa at the Mill Inn. Her mom ran it then. 55 00:03:53,275 --> 00:03:54,568 We danced. 56 00:03:56,278 --> 00:03:58,530 I've been told I look pretty good on the dance floor. 57 00:04:00,615 --> 00:04:03,493 Then we... started seeing each other. 58 00:04:05,912 --> 00:04:08,331 [man] Everybody drank back then. It was a different time. 59 00:04:08,415 --> 00:04:10,893 And I smoked pot and drank like a fish and all that other kind of thing. 60 00:04:10,917 --> 00:04:12,918 And there was occasionally a little cocaine around. 61 00:04:15,255 --> 00:04:18,341 It was always a love-and-hate relationship with Teresa and Wesley. 62 00:04:18,925 --> 00:04:21,766 You know, whether they were mad on Wednesday, they were great on Friday. 63 00:04:21,803 --> 00:04:24,924 And they always ended up back together. For whatever reason, love is like that. 64 00:04:28,143 --> 00:04:29,537 [Terry] I tried to get him away from her 65 00:04:29,561 --> 00:04:33,148 'cause I didn't like any of those people that hung out there in that area, 66 00:04:33,231 --> 00:04:34,608 that part of North Charleston. 67 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:36,860 Didn't like them, didn't trust them. 68 00:04:38,570 --> 00:04:39,821 They were the lower-lifes. 69 00:04:41,990 --> 00:04:43,742 Hanging around that crowd, he was... 70 00:04:44,409 --> 00:04:50,248 he was in pitiful shape, as far as drinking and just partying and... 71 00:04:50,665 --> 00:04:53,126 It's just that lifestyle they had down there. 72 00:04:55,170 --> 00:04:58,465 [Myers] I drank a lot. Everybody drank a lot. [chuckles] 73 00:04:58,548 --> 00:05:00,801 I normally drank until I would... 74 00:05:03,011 --> 00:05:04,011 black out. 75 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:08,016 [McKeithan] I've never seen him actually punch her or hit her. 76 00:05:08,099 --> 00:05:12,479 I've seen probably Teresa be the more of an aggressor on some occasions, 77 00:05:12,562 --> 00:05:14,022 trying to get something from Wes, 78 00:05:14,105 --> 00:05:16,026 back from Wesley, or something along those lines. 79 00:05:16,441 --> 00:05:19,486 They loved to hate each other. It's the only way I could put it. 80 00:05:19,569 --> 00:05:21,009 [Myers] She was a pretty tough girl. 81 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:24,783 And she would fight man or woman, it didn't matter. 82 00:05:25,367 --> 00:05:27,869 And especially if she'd been drinking some. 83 00:05:29,287 --> 00:05:31,581 It was a road to nowhere. 84 00:05:33,041 --> 00:05:35,585 And I didn't wanna see him go down there. 85 00:05:35,669 --> 00:05:37,963 But... love is blind. 86 00:05:52,978 --> 00:05:54,854 [Myers] I was at my mom and dad's. 87 00:05:56,940 --> 00:05:59,234 In fact, there was ice skating of some sort. 88 00:06:00,110 --> 00:06:02,279 And Dad and I watched a little bit of it. 89 00:06:02,362 --> 00:06:04,522 Then I went to bed because I had work the next morning. 90 00:06:29,806 --> 00:06:31,474 [match striking] 91 00:06:40,609 --> 00:06:42,986 [siren wails] 92 00:06:56,166 --> 00:06:58,668 When we arrived, there was heavy smoke and fire 93 00:06:58,752 --> 00:07:00,462 coming from the front of the structure. 94 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:08,553 [Cornell] And we went in. We was hitting the hot spots. 95 00:07:10,138 --> 00:07:13,558 There was a lot of flame, a lot of smoke. You couldn't see. 96 00:07:13,642 --> 00:07:16,019 I happened to notice something laying on the floor. 97 00:07:16,937 --> 00:07:18,480 At first when I seen it, 98 00:07:18,563 --> 00:07:23,360 I thought it was a mannequin, and I had... I had to take another look. 99 00:07:24,527 --> 00:07:28,740 And that's when I realized that it was a human body laying there. 100 00:07:30,325 --> 00:07:33,745 And I called the battalion chief on the radio and notified him 101 00:07:33,828 --> 00:07:37,207 that I had a victim inside that was deceased. 102 00:07:41,586 --> 00:07:43,630 I was heading to Texaco to go to work. 103 00:07:46,049 --> 00:07:48,343 She slept in the bar quite often, 104 00:07:48,426 --> 00:07:52,555 so I was gonna go by, like I normally did, to check on Teresa and that. 105 00:07:55,100 --> 00:07:58,645 Parked my truck, got out, and was met by a fireman, 106 00:07:58,728 --> 00:08:00,230 and I asked what was going on. 107 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:04,442 And he informed me there had been a fire, and I asked about Teresa. 108 00:08:04,526 --> 00:08:07,946 [Cornell] He said, "That's my girlfriend's car sitting there." 109 00:08:10,782 --> 00:08:13,910 And I walked over and told the arson investigator... 110 00:08:14,828 --> 00:08:19,165 that this man walked up and stated that that was his girlfriend's car. 111 00:08:23,169 --> 00:08:24,169 And he said, uh... 112 00:08:25,046 --> 00:08:26,339 "Well, there's a body in there 113 00:08:26,423 --> 00:08:29,759 but we don't know who it is 'cause it's been burned." 114 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:31,761 And, uh... 115 00:08:32,595 --> 00:08:36,307 "Do you have any pictures of her?" And I did in my glove box. 116 00:08:37,017 --> 00:08:40,395 So I run to the truck and got a picture and took it to him. 117 00:08:41,187 --> 00:08:44,607 And, uh, they informed me it was Teresa. 118 00:08:46,693 --> 00:08:47,693 And... 119 00:08:52,157 --> 00:08:54,534 I... started crying. 120 00:09:01,958 --> 00:09:04,586 [Myers] That's when Detective Payne showed up 121 00:09:04,669 --> 00:09:07,714 and said he wanted to talk with me. 122 00:09:07,797 --> 00:09:11,676 He said, "Well, we need to eliminate you so we can move on." 123 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,762 I said, "No problem. I didn't do it." 124 00:09:22,771 --> 00:09:26,316 [man] I like to get out of the office. I like to see where it happened. 125 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:29,861 I like to see the people, the place, take pictures. 126 00:09:29,944 --> 00:09:31,446 I gotta feel the case. 127 00:09:31,863 --> 00:09:33,907 And so, I don't hesitate putting on blue jeans 128 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:36,510 and going out and knocking on doors and talking to people and... 129 00:09:37,494 --> 00:09:38,536 seeing for myself. 130 00:09:41,372 --> 00:09:43,666 It was obviously a very serious case. 131 00:09:44,709 --> 00:09:48,171 His girlfriend had been murdered with a wine carafe, 132 00:09:48,254 --> 00:09:52,926 and the police collected a number of things from the scene. 133 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:54,761 One of the things they collected 134 00:09:54,844 --> 00:10:00,016 was the hair purportedly found in Teresa's hand. 135 00:10:02,102 --> 00:10:04,979 The watch that was found at the crime scene 136 00:10:05,063 --> 00:10:06,773 under or near Teresa's body. 137 00:10:08,316 --> 00:10:09,637 There was a bloody dollar bill... 138 00:10:10,401 --> 00:10:15,115 and the wine carafe, in pieces, that had blood spatter on them. 139 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:20,912 It wasn't the kind of case where there was overwhelming evidence. 140 00:10:25,583 --> 00:10:27,794 [Myers] That afternoon, I went to Shores, 141 00:10:28,378 --> 00:10:30,505 and everybody was talking about what happened, 142 00:10:30,588 --> 00:10:32,257 who done it, what's going on. 143 00:10:34,884 --> 00:10:38,888 I had a few drinks, and Paul attached himself to me. 144 00:10:39,556 --> 00:10:40,866 [McKeithan] Well, I was coming home from work, 145 00:10:40,890 --> 00:10:43,685 and there was everybody at Shores, and it was emotional. 146 00:10:43,768 --> 00:10:47,063 He had a picture of Teresa, he was talking about wanting to be with her. 147 00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:49,607 Just how much he missed her and all that kind of thing. 148 00:10:49,691 --> 00:10:52,378 And at the time, I'd had some friends that committed suicide and things, 149 00:10:52,402 --> 00:10:53,842 and I was very concerned for Wesley. 150 00:10:56,698 --> 00:10:59,159 That particular night, everybody knew what had happened. 151 00:11:00,243 --> 00:11:03,496 As soon as he walked in, everybody, you know, come to him. 152 00:11:03,580 --> 00:11:06,958 So I think he wanted to go to a place that wasn't known. 153 00:11:07,959 --> 00:11:09,812 [Myers] And he said, "Let's go find another place to drink." 154 00:11:09,836 --> 00:11:12,839 Well, I knew that the Joker was open, so we went to the Joker. 155 00:11:12,922 --> 00:11:13,922 It's a strip joint. 156 00:11:14,883 --> 00:11:18,112 [McKeithan] At that time of night, that's all that's left that's open, more or less, 157 00:11:18,136 --> 00:11:20,617 especially down Dorchester and all that kind of road back then. 158 00:11:21,431 --> 00:11:23,450 It wasn't like he was up there dancing with the girls 159 00:11:23,474 --> 00:11:25,327 and sticking dollars in their drawers or nothing. 160 00:11:25,351 --> 00:11:27,752 We just sat down at a table with a cold beer and, you know... 161 00:11:29,022 --> 00:11:32,525 We ended up back at Teresa's house, a couple blocks from the bar. 162 00:11:32,609 --> 00:11:34,235 And he went upstairs to her room, 163 00:11:34,319 --> 00:11:36,571 and I stayed downstairs and slept on the stairs, 164 00:11:36,654 --> 00:11:38,364 because that way he couldn't step over me 165 00:11:38,448 --> 00:11:40,867 and get out of the house without waking me up or something. 166 00:11:48,333 --> 00:11:52,170 [Myers] That next morning, I went home and my dad said, 167 00:11:53,129 --> 00:11:55,849 "The police have been calling for you. They need you at the station." 168 00:11:58,343 --> 00:12:00,803 Then I went down there, 169 00:12:00,887 --> 00:12:04,265 and they asked if I had a problem taking a lie detector test. 170 00:12:05,183 --> 00:12:06,184 And I said no. 171 00:12:09,145 --> 00:12:11,981 I told them I would do anything to help them get this solved. 172 00:12:13,524 --> 00:12:17,737 Well, they got me back in the back room, and they started asking me questions. 173 00:12:18,696 --> 00:12:22,033 [detective] In the last 24 hours, how much alcohol have you had in your body? 174 00:12:23,534 --> 00:12:24,744 Probably a case of Budweiser. 175 00:12:26,871 --> 00:12:28,724 When you say "case," how many beers are you talking? 176 00:12:28,748 --> 00:12:29,748 Twenty-four. 177 00:12:32,752 --> 00:12:35,004 [detective] In most domestic-type murders... 178 00:12:36,214 --> 00:12:38,299 the husband's always the first one to be dragged in. 179 00:12:38,383 --> 00:12:39,467 Well, that's natural. 180 00:12:40,134 --> 00:12:42,470 Nobody likes to ask people these questions. 181 00:12:42,553 --> 00:12:46,391 This is why I get paid to do what I do. Okay? And I gotta ask you. 182 00:12:46,474 --> 00:12:49,268 The obvious question I'm gonna ask you first is, did you kill her? 183 00:12:49,352 --> 00:12:50,645 No, sir, I didn't. 184 00:12:50,728 --> 00:12:52,146 Okay. Why wouldn't you? 185 00:12:52,605 --> 00:12:57,485 I loved her. And I'm not that... I'm not someone that would kill nobody. 186 00:12:57,568 --> 00:12:59,195 Is there any reason, Wesley, 187 00:12:59,278 --> 00:13:02,073 that you can think of that I won't be able to clear you? 188 00:13:02,156 --> 00:13:03,282 - No. - Okay. 189 00:13:03,992 --> 00:13:07,078 Is there any physical evidence that you know of, 190 00:13:07,161 --> 00:13:12,458 that she was in possession of, that would tie you to where she was found? 191 00:13:12,542 --> 00:13:14,585 - No. - None at all? Okay. 192 00:13:16,462 --> 00:13:18,548 Did you kill her and not mean to? 193 00:13:18,631 --> 00:13:20,425 - Did you...? - I did not kill Teresa Haught. 194 00:13:20,508 --> 00:13:22,760 - Did you get in a fight with her? - No, I did not. 195 00:13:22,844 --> 00:13:24,095 Okay. 196 00:13:24,178 --> 00:13:26,431 [Myers] Eliminating me is what they kept telling me. 197 00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:29,851 The boyfriend's always, or the husband is, a suspect. 198 00:13:30,351 --> 00:13:34,022 But... they said, "We do this, we can move on and get the real murderer." 199 00:13:35,273 --> 00:13:36,524 And I believed them. 200 00:13:38,609 --> 00:13:41,070 [detective] When was the last time that you saw her alive? 201 00:13:41,154 --> 00:13:46,617 3:30 and... I left there about 15 minutes later. At the bar. 202 00:13:47,952 --> 00:13:49,078 [detective] Okay. 203 00:13:49,162 --> 00:13:53,708 Now I want you to honestly... honestly, think for a minute. 204 00:13:54,375 --> 00:13:57,378 And think about who could have seen wherever you were... 205 00:13:59,380 --> 00:14:01,257 I did not see Teresa again. 206 00:14:01,340 --> 00:14:04,302 I... I talked to her on the phone at four o'clock. 207 00:14:04,385 --> 00:14:07,055 My son and I did. I never seen her no more after that. 208 00:14:07,138 --> 00:14:10,683 - Four o'clock in the afternoon? - No, it was like quarter to 4:00. 209 00:14:10,767 --> 00:14:12,727 I picked my son up, and we got home at 4:00. 210 00:14:12,810 --> 00:14:14,979 - Okay. - And I did not see her again. 211 00:14:15,772 --> 00:14:18,900 They threw different scenarios at me. 212 00:14:19,776 --> 00:14:22,536 [detective] We both know, Wesley, and let's be honest with each other, 213 00:14:22,570 --> 00:14:27,158 the people that generally get you the most pissed off in all the world... 214 00:14:27,950 --> 00:14:28,950 are people you love. 215 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:32,663 They are the ones who push the buttons, okay? 216 00:14:32,747 --> 00:14:34,791 I've been married 20 years, and I tell you what, 217 00:14:34,874 --> 00:14:37,728 I've never thought about divorce, but I have sure thought about killing her. 218 00:14:37,752 --> 00:14:39,312 - You know what I'm saying? - I imagine. 219 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:43,383 And the thing is, we've all been angry to the point of wanting to just... 220 00:14:44,092 --> 00:14:46,135 choke the living snot out of a wife. 221 00:14:46,594 --> 00:14:49,680 [Margiotta] He said it's okay for men to push women 222 00:14:49,764 --> 00:14:53,017 and told Wes that it was all right for a man 223 00:14:53,101 --> 00:14:55,978 to get in a rage and react and do something 224 00:14:56,062 --> 00:14:57,647 that he wouldn't normally do. 225 00:14:58,231 --> 00:14:59,941 [detective] Having been there myself 226 00:15:00,024 --> 00:15:03,069 and knowing and dealing with cops who are there 227 00:15:03,152 --> 00:15:05,530 and dealing with a lot of domestic disputes in the past... 228 00:15:06,572 --> 00:15:09,575 if you had... if you had gotten in an argument with her... 229 00:15:10,785 --> 00:15:13,204 and you ended up hitting her, or she ended up hitting you 230 00:15:13,287 --> 00:15:15,248 or scratching you or striking you in some way... 231 00:15:16,207 --> 00:15:18,334 there's going to be physical evidence tied to that. 232 00:15:19,419 --> 00:15:21,671 And us having that physical evidence... 233 00:15:22,505 --> 00:15:27,552 and then you lying about either the fight or some part of that, 234 00:15:27,635 --> 00:15:32,098 is going to make it unbelievably hard to clear you. 235 00:15:32,181 --> 00:15:33,015 Right. 236 00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:38,563 Even if you are actually innocent of the deed itself. Okay? 237 00:15:40,231 --> 00:15:43,734 I was thinking I was helping because that's what they assured me of, 238 00:15:43,818 --> 00:15:44,986 and I was ignorant. 239 00:15:45,570 --> 00:15:47,822 [detective] Now they tell me that they have found a hair. 240 00:15:48,406 --> 00:15:50,700 - Is there any way that hair is yours? - No, sir. 241 00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:54,370 - No way that hair could be yours? - No way. I wasn't there. 242 00:15:54,454 --> 00:15:56,038 Okay. What if the hair was yours? 243 00:15:56,831 --> 00:15:57,831 I'd freak. 244 00:15:58,458 --> 00:15:59,458 I would freak out. 245 00:15:59,834 --> 00:16:03,379 - Okay. I mean, how... - How... How... 246 00:16:03,463 --> 00:16:06,424 - How would you explain it? - I couldn't explain it. 247 00:16:06,507 --> 00:16:08,468 - My hair isn't going to show up there. - Okay. 248 00:16:08,551 --> 00:16:12,930 My... Nothing... I am not guilty of this crime. 249 00:16:17,768 --> 00:16:20,605 [Myers] I didn't know I was being filmed and come to find out 250 00:16:20,688 --> 00:16:23,274 they were taping it all and seeing how I was reacting. 251 00:16:25,401 --> 00:16:29,071 That black-and-white videotape was surreptitiously made 252 00:16:29,155 --> 00:16:31,407 from a tissue box camera. 253 00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:34,869 That's not a comforting thought. 254 00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:39,391 [detective] All right, let me tell you where we're at, Wesley. 255 00:16:39,415 --> 00:16:43,252 Obviously, we're always in... we're always in a hurry in law enforcement 256 00:16:43,336 --> 00:16:44,629 to get these things over with. 257 00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:50,760 But you haven't had any sleep in a while. You know what I'm saying? 258 00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:56,974 He said I was unfit to be given a lie detector test. 259 00:16:57,808 --> 00:17:02,313 [detective] Physiologically, right now, you're... you're starting to go down. 260 00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:05,316 I mean, you... you are dragging butt right now. 261 00:17:05,399 --> 00:17:08,945 It's obvious, okay? If I hooked you up right now to this thing, 262 00:17:09,403 --> 00:17:11,197 you're gonna have real flat reactions. 263 00:17:12,114 --> 00:17:14,492 [Myers] And they said that they'd talk to me in the morning. 264 00:17:15,076 --> 00:17:17,078 Everything he said, 265 00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:21,541 through that whole supposed polygraph pretest, 266 00:17:21,624 --> 00:17:26,170 laid the foundation for his subsequent... 267 00:17:26,254 --> 00:17:28,673 very intense interrogation. 268 00:17:39,517 --> 00:17:42,144 [Myers] The next morning, Denver Clayton come pick me up. 269 00:17:42,728 --> 00:17:45,856 And then we went on down to North Charleston Police Department. 270 00:17:47,024 --> 00:17:49,402 I was in an examining room, I reckon. 271 00:17:50,278 --> 00:17:52,947 They were talking with me and discussing 272 00:17:53,030 --> 00:17:54,907 the facts of what they thought had happened. 273 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,042 [Myers] They had done told me numerous times, whoever's hair this is, 274 00:18:05,126 --> 00:18:06,836 the hair is gonna prove who killed him, 275 00:18:06,919 --> 00:18:09,463 "God put that hair there for us to solve this murder." 276 00:18:11,132 --> 00:18:15,052 And Melvin Cumby received a phone call and left the room and come back. 277 00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:17,388 He said, "The worst has happened." 278 00:18:17,471 --> 00:18:19,599 He said, "Wes, the hair come back yours. 279 00:18:22,268 --> 00:18:25,021 And I can even tell you what part of the head it came from. 280 00:18:26,188 --> 00:18:27,273 It was a match." 281 00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:29,984 And I said, "There's no way." 282 00:18:30,568 --> 00:18:33,529 He said... "You done." 283 00:18:35,114 --> 00:18:36,675 [Kulp] There wasn't anybody on the phone. 284 00:18:36,699 --> 00:18:39,660 Joe Powell, the analyst, didn't even work that day. 285 00:18:39,744 --> 00:18:41,329 I couldn't believe it. 286 00:18:41,912 --> 00:18:44,665 And I was... questioning myself. 287 00:18:46,042 --> 00:18:47,376 It got real intense. 288 00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:51,047 They told me that I had blacked out. 289 00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:53,215 They said, "That's why you can't remember. 290 00:18:53,299 --> 00:18:56,385 But the evidence proves you done it, Wes. 291 00:18:56,927 --> 00:18:59,597 We got a hair that matches you." And he kept saying that. 292 00:19:01,265 --> 00:19:04,644 I mean, this didn't just go on for 30 minutes. This went on for hours. 293 00:19:04,727 --> 00:19:06,187 "You need to apologize. 294 00:19:06,270 --> 00:19:11,067 I told you God would put the hair in and whosever it was. You're in denial." 295 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:13,861 I mean, it's just a steady... and there's three of them. 296 00:19:14,904 --> 00:19:17,239 And then they come back in with, "We got an eyewitness." 297 00:19:21,202 --> 00:19:24,622 Then they come back in with, "Oh, we've got bloody prints." 298 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,541 And that it was on my clothes... 299 00:19:28,459 --> 00:19:29,459 in my truck. 300 00:19:30,294 --> 00:19:31,294 He said, "We've got you. 301 00:19:31,712 --> 00:19:33,553 But if you confess, they'll go lighter on you." 302 00:19:34,465 --> 00:19:36,175 I said, "I don't remember none of this." 303 00:19:36,676 --> 00:19:38,469 "You most likely blacked all this out. 304 00:19:39,804 --> 00:19:41,347 And that's why you can't remember." 305 00:19:45,935 --> 00:19:48,187 Everything... Then I was in a haze. 306 00:19:49,397 --> 00:19:51,357 They were throwing pictures down in front of me... 307 00:19:52,942 --> 00:19:55,569 of Teresa's burned body, 308 00:19:56,153 --> 00:20:00,157 beaten face, brutalized, swollen up awfully. 309 00:20:01,450 --> 00:20:02,743 And... 310 00:20:04,161 --> 00:20:06,414 telling me I needed to apologize to her. 311 00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:11,127 They said, "Look, you might not think you done it, 312 00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:13,629 but you done it and you're going to jail." 313 00:20:15,089 --> 00:20:17,258 And I had gotten kind of angry and I said, 314 00:20:17,341 --> 00:20:19,969 "Well if y'all got all that, I must've done it." 315 00:20:20,428 --> 00:20:23,556 And they jumped up like a bunch of cheerleaders and said, "We got him." 316 00:20:26,267 --> 00:20:29,979 As the police reported, "I guess..." 317 00:20:30,062 --> 00:20:31,143 I'll remember this forever. 318 00:20:31,188 --> 00:20:33,774 "I guess I must have did it, then." 319 00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:43,534 [Myers] They brought Teresa's mother, Dixie, down there to talk to me. 320 00:20:44,118 --> 00:20:45,911 Told me I needed to apologize to her. 321 00:20:46,328 --> 00:20:48,956 And at that point, I would've done whatever they wanted. 322 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:52,835 When she was gone and he didn't call me to let me know 323 00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:55,379 or come to the house to be with us... 324 00:20:56,756 --> 00:20:58,466 then I knew something was not right. 325 00:21:01,886 --> 00:21:04,680 [Justis] The police called me and said that he wanted to see me. 326 00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:06,056 Would I go see him? 327 00:21:06,724 --> 00:21:09,602 So, they set it up. I said, "Yeah, I would go see him." 328 00:21:11,562 --> 00:21:14,064 I wanted to look at him, and I wanted him to tell me. 329 00:21:14,148 --> 00:21:15,775 As close as we're sitting, 330 00:21:15,858 --> 00:21:20,112 he told me face-to-face that he did it and he was sorry that he did it. 331 00:21:20,654 --> 00:21:23,866 And he didn't... his words... he didn't know why he did it. 332 00:21:23,949 --> 00:21:25,367 He loved her. 333 00:21:26,452 --> 00:21:28,704 I... I can't actually recall. 334 00:21:30,122 --> 00:21:32,124 I know I said, "I'm sorry." 335 00:21:34,001 --> 00:21:37,171 [Myers] After that, they'd written up a confession. 336 00:21:37,254 --> 00:21:39,048 And they read it to me. 337 00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:41,133 It was in their handwriting. 338 00:21:41,217 --> 00:21:44,720 At that point... I was numb. 339 00:21:45,346 --> 00:21:48,682 Everything just... seemed to be distant. 340 00:21:49,934 --> 00:21:51,685 And I signed the confession. 341 00:21:57,399 --> 00:21:59,318 They'd done convinced me that I'd done it. 342 00:22:08,619 --> 00:22:12,873 [Myers] They said, "Now, the news media is out back, and... 343 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:16,210 you need to apologize to the world." 344 00:22:18,295 --> 00:22:20,047 They walked me down these stairs. 345 00:22:20,673 --> 00:22:23,717 I remember watching the two officers in front of me. 346 00:22:24,593 --> 00:22:28,514 And they said, "We got to get all gussied up for the cameras." 347 00:22:30,099 --> 00:22:31,392 And then they opened them doors. 348 00:22:32,643 --> 00:22:34,728 And it was nothing but bright lights. 349 00:22:42,236 --> 00:22:43,654 [woman] North Charleston police say 350 00:22:43,737 --> 00:22:45,948 they suspected Wesley Myers all along. 351 00:22:46,031 --> 00:22:48,659 And, Lee, I'm told he will face the judge tomorrow morning. 352 00:22:48,742 --> 00:22:49,742 Back to you. 353 00:22:50,411 --> 00:22:51,870 I grew up in a television household. 354 00:22:51,954 --> 00:22:54,248 My father ran radio and television stations. 355 00:22:54,999 --> 00:22:56,999 I said, "Oh, good Lord, I wanna be in the newsroom. 356 00:22:57,042 --> 00:23:00,170 This is where things happen. This is where things are exciting. 357 00:23:00,254 --> 00:23:02,381 I wanna just do this." 358 00:23:05,217 --> 00:23:09,888 I was at work, and Mel Cumby called at the station and said, 359 00:23:09,972 --> 00:23:14,101 "Hey, you know, we've got an arrest in that murder in North Charleston. 360 00:23:14,184 --> 00:23:16,604 We've got the guy here. We're gonna walk him. 361 00:23:17,354 --> 00:23:18,873 We think he's probably gonna make a statement. 362 00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:20,058 You might wanna get up here." 363 00:23:20,858 --> 00:23:24,403 [Lothery] They walk Wes Myers out of their holding area. 364 00:23:24,486 --> 00:23:26,506 I thought, "Hey, I thought they said he was gonna make a statement. 365 00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:29,130 He didn't say anything. So, I might as well shout out a question." 366 00:23:30,534 --> 00:23:32,534 [Lothery] You feel any remorse about what happened? 367 00:23:32,828 --> 00:23:35,247 I wanna apologize to the family for what I've done. 368 00:23:35,873 --> 00:23:39,251 I've committed a crime that I can't take back. 369 00:23:40,002 --> 00:23:41,795 I loved Teresa very much. 370 00:23:41,879 --> 00:23:44,506 I was absolutely stunned. 371 00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:47,593 I said, "Oh, my goodness, this man just confessed on camera." 372 00:23:47,676 --> 00:23:49,070 [Lothery] How many times did you strike her? 373 00:23:49,094 --> 00:23:50,137 [Myers] I'm not sure. 374 00:23:50,220 --> 00:23:52,365 [Lothery] Myers, who said he was not under the influence 375 00:23:52,389 --> 00:23:53,641 at the time of the crime, 376 00:23:53,724 --> 00:23:55,601 was picked up in Hanahan this morning. 377 00:23:56,060 --> 00:24:00,272 It looked like Wes was just... in a daze. 378 00:24:01,649 --> 00:24:03,359 Almost as if he'd been drugged. 379 00:24:04,735 --> 00:24:08,322 [Margiotta] And they presented it as three confessions. 380 00:24:09,948 --> 00:24:12,201 [Kulp] One, they got him to sign a statement. 381 00:24:12,284 --> 00:24:15,079 Number two, they brought the victim's mother, Dixie, there 382 00:24:15,162 --> 00:24:18,540 and suggested he apologize, confess to her. 383 00:24:19,416 --> 00:24:23,462 And the third might be characterized as what happened during the perp walk. 384 00:24:24,421 --> 00:24:25,421 [Kulp] It's horrible. 385 00:24:25,756 --> 00:24:27,257 It's certainly doing very little 386 00:24:27,341 --> 00:24:32,888 to protect a accused and presumed innocent person's right to a fair trial. 387 00:24:34,098 --> 00:24:35,098 It's just bad. 388 00:24:36,350 --> 00:24:38,143 It's bad and it shouldn't have been done. 389 00:24:39,436 --> 00:24:43,524 [McKeithan] I believed he was innocent... until I saw him on the news. 390 00:24:43,607 --> 00:24:46,944 You're gonna confess to something that's so horrible, you know, 391 00:24:47,027 --> 00:24:50,489 setting this woman on fire, you know, and you didn't do it? 392 00:24:50,572 --> 00:24:51,949 No way. No way. 393 00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:56,412 If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, chances are it's a duck. 394 00:24:56,995 --> 00:24:58,431 [Lothery] Tonight, police have charged Wesley Myers 395 00:24:58,455 --> 00:25:00,249 with murder and 3rd degree arson. 396 00:25:00,332 --> 00:25:02,394 He's currently sitting in the Charleston County Jail. 397 00:25:02,418 --> 00:25:05,504 He says he's sorry and he didn't mean to do it. 398 00:25:05,587 --> 00:25:07,881 Tomorrow, Wesley Myers will have his chance 399 00:25:07,965 --> 00:25:09,508 to tell it to the judge. 400 00:25:27,276 --> 00:25:28,503 [man] There are many who will say, " 401 00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:31,363 I would never confess to something I didn't do." 402 00:25:32,364 --> 00:25:35,409 That's not true. Almost anyone can under the right circumstances. 403 00:25:38,412 --> 00:25:39,830 [detective] If you killed her, 404 00:25:39,913 --> 00:25:43,333 you would still be in the throes of self-denial, okay? 405 00:25:43,417 --> 00:25:45,961 Wes was interrogated for between 15 and 20 hours 406 00:25:46,044 --> 00:25:47,296 over a three-day period. 407 00:25:47,379 --> 00:25:49,214 They plotted this out that they were gonna, 408 00:25:49,298 --> 00:25:50,966 you know, bring him back in, 409 00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:55,304 that they were gonna lie to him about the results of the testing 410 00:25:55,387 --> 00:25:58,515 and tell him that this hair had been conclusively determined 411 00:25:58,599 --> 00:26:00,279 that was found in Teresa's hand to be his. 412 00:26:00,350 --> 00:26:04,980 All for the purpose of trying to, you know, get him to make a statement. 413 00:26:05,063 --> 00:26:08,150 [detective] As hard as I am on people when I'm pressing them, 414 00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:09,914 when they feel that pressure internally... 415 00:26:10,444 --> 00:26:15,115 I can never ever replace the pressure in a person that that person 416 00:26:15,199 --> 00:26:16,509 - will put themselves under. - Right. 417 00:26:16,533 --> 00:26:18,035 If they have a conscience at all. 418 00:26:18,118 --> 00:26:22,539 The police had so sort of broken Wes down by the time that he confessed, 419 00:26:22,623 --> 00:26:26,502 by the time they lied to him about the hair, 420 00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:29,338 that at that moment, he, in fact, 421 00:26:29,421 --> 00:26:33,008 may have even actually believed himself that he did it. 422 00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:35,761 [detective] If you're just a sick motherfucker... 423 00:26:36,804 --> 00:26:40,641 and you've got the conscience of a wall, okay? 424 00:26:41,141 --> 00:26:45,562 And you killed her, accidentally or not, okay? 425 00:26:45,646 --> 00:26:48,774 If you are that sick individual, okay? 426 00:26:49,525 --> 00:26:53,612 You, right now, are seriously being eaten up, internally. 427 00:26:54,154 --> 00:26:57,324 Whether you're sorry or not, you are seriously dealing with that. 428 00:26:57,950 --> 00:27:00,661 [Blume] Law enforcement believed that their job was over. 429 00:27:00,744 --> 00:27:03,288 They thought, "Okay, we've got our man. 430 00:27:03,372 --> 00:27:06,208 And, you know, we're just gonna let the system play out." 431 00:27:06,291 --> 00:27:10,546 And I think what they didn't do was continue to do the type of work 432 00:27:10,629 --> 00:27:13,191 that you would hope that law enforcement would do in these situations, 433 00:27:13,215 --> 00:27:15,175 which would continue to follow credible leads. 434 00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:20,430 It wasn't, say, a situation where no other person 435 00:27:20,514 --> 00:27:21,974 could have had access to her. 436 00:27:23,934 --> 00:27:27,688 [Kulp] She was in a bar that was pretty much a public club. 437 00:27:27,771 --> 00:27:30,732 It was in an area where people hung out late at night. 438 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:32,900 It was rough. 439 00:27:33,944 --> 00:27:36,738 And rough people came in there and went out of there. 440 00:27:39,199 --> 00:27:42,703 [detective] Let me ask you, who do you think could have done this thing? 441 00:27:44,621 --> 00:27:46,373 I don't trust the boy, Dana. 442 00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:54,214 Dana was the primary suspect, at least, in the minds of the defense in the case 443 00:27:54,298 --> 00:27:58,176 because he was seen at the Mill Inn that night, 444 00:27:58,260 --> 00:28:01,680 approximate to the departure of the two bartenderesses... 445 00:28:03,098 --> 00:28:07,519 and was acting weird and had kind of the hots for Teresa. 446 00:28:07,603 --> 00:28:09,271 He was arrested by the police... 447 00:28:11,481 --> 00:28:13,442 as kind of a suspect in the case. 448 00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:15,903 There were a lot of things pointing to him. 449 00:28:16,486 --> 00:28:18,822 [Kulp] We tried to interview him in the past. 450 00:28:18,906 --> 00:28:21,742 He was extremely reluctant to even talk to us. 451 00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:25,162 Bingo! This is it. 452 00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:27,038 Yeah. 453 00:28:34,671 --> 00:28:35,671 Mr... 454 00:28:37,007 --> 00:28:39,426 - [man] What? - I wanna talk to you. 455 00:28:39,509 --> 00:28:42,012 [man speaks indistinctly] 456 00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:46,016 - What? - [man] What for? 457 00:28:46,099 --> 00:28:48,185 About Wes Myers' case. 458 00:28:50,812 --> 00:28:51,939 Back at the Mill Inn? 459 00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:54,942 1997? 460 00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:00,989 - [man] He confessed. - Sorry? 461 00:29:01,073 --> 00:29:04,660 [man] He confessed, you idiot! Go away! 462 00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:07,371 - He confessed? - [man] Of course he did it! 463 00:29:09,414 --> 00:29:10,832 [man] Go the hell away! 464 00:29:13,835 --> 00:29:17,714 Dana was seen outside the bar the night of the incident. 465 00:29:18,382 --> 00:29:20,509 He tried to force his way in. 466 00:29:27,516 --> 00:29:32,187 [Blume] Then when he was interviewed, he initially denied being there at all. 467 00:29:33,188 --> 00:29:35,524 And he had also altered his appearance. 468 00:29:35,607 --> 00:29:38,443 He had shaved some of his facial hair and altered it in a way 469 00:29:38,527 --> 00:29:40,445 from the night of the offense. 470 00:29:41,822 --> 00:29:45,575 He was arrested by the police near the scene in a car, 471 00:29:46,118 --> 00:29:49,037 and he was charged with unlawful possession of a firearm. 472 00:29:49,705 --> 00:29:52,332 And there were some other things in the car. 473 00:29:52,416 --> 00:29:53,935 [Blume] There was a watch found near the body, 474 00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:57,045 and there was a band similar to that which was in his truck. 475 00:29:57,129 --> 00:29:59,172 Also, probably, even more to me, 476 00:29:59,256 --> 00:30:03,468 more shocking than that was, they initially took some of his blood 477 00:30:03,552 --> 00:30:07,514 and had it available for DNA testing and never developed a DNA profile on it. 478 00:30:07,597 --> 00:30:11,226 So, that's lost now, and so we can't compare any DNA evidence 479 00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:13,312 which might have existed on the dollar bill 480 00:30:13,395 --> 00:30:15,188 or the hair to his DNA profile. 481 00:30:15,689 --> 00:30:19,526 I don't think that... Let's just be as fair as possible. 482 00:30:19,609 --> 00:30:23,405 That appropriate measures were taken to exclude him 483 00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:25,741 as being involved in the murder. 484 00:30:41,381 --> 00:30:44,509 [Kulp] Every criminal defense case is an uphill climb. 485 00:30:45,093 --> 00:30:47,155 Because the state has the edge, they have the burden of proof, 486 00:30:47,179 --> 00:30:50,432 but they have an edge, the pointing finger of accusation. 487 00:30:51,975 --> 00:30:54,519 [woman] It was a little nerve-racking to know 488 00:30:54,603 --> 00:30:57,564 that I was being selected for a murder trial. 489 00:30:59,941 --> 00:31:03,904 [Meeks] We were given the video in the police station. 490 00:31:05,447 --> 00:31:09,117 We also viewed the newscaster's video, 491 00:31:09,201 --> 00:31:12,913 and then we were also given the written confession. 492 00:31:15,123 --> 00:31:18,043 They had the dollar bill with blood on it. 493 00:31:18,919 --> 00:31:21,254 Back then, they couldn't determine if it was blood. 494 00:31:21,338 --> 00:31:24,758 It was DNA commingled with Teresa's blood. 495 00:31:25,342 --> 00:31:28,011 [Meeks] They had the hair they found in her hand. 496 00:31:28,762 --> 00:31:35,268 The forensic science they'd applied was a microscopic hair comparison 497 00:31:35,352 --> 00:31:38,522 between an unknown sample and a known sample 498 00:31:38,605 --> 00:31:42,567 that would lead someone to say, "It is similar to," 499 00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:45,278 or, "I can't say that it isn't." 500 00:31:46,196 --> 00:31:48,657 Phraseology that just stayed away from the term "match." 501 00:31:50,033 --> 00:31:53,078 Now, at that time, we kind of looked at each other and said like... 502 00:31:53,829 --> 00:31:56,540 "For a case that's a confession case, we're not doing that bad." 503 00:31:58,542 --> 00:32:02,212 Because, at that point, the confession was the only thing putting him in the bar. 504 00:32:02,796 --> 00:32:05,382 So, we went to court the next day, and then, all of a sudden, 505 00:32:05,465 --> 00:32:08,760 the solicitor comes over, Bruce, and says, "I got something to tell you about." 506 00:32:08,844 --> 00:32:13,390 I said, "Okay." And I said, "You gotta be kidding me." 507 00:32:14,349 --> 00:32:16,518 [Meeks] I do remember the last-minute witness. 508 00:32:17,185 --> 00:32:19,729 It was kind of exciting, shook up the courtroom for a minute. 509 00:32:22,858 --> 00:32:26,194 I was there the night of the murder, just before it happened. 510 00:32:29,281 --> 00:32:32,451 I ran into one of the bartenders that worked here, Tammy. 511 00:32:33,201 --> 00:32:37,747 And she told me that Wesley was on trial at that time 512 00:32:37,831 --> 00:32:41,293 and that he was about to get off because he's saying he wasn't there. 513 00:32:41,376 --> 00:32:44,629 And I told her, "Well, I know he was there 'cause I was there." 514 00:32:44,713 --> 00:32:47,090 She said, "Well, you need to call the prosecutor." 515 00:32:47,174 --> 00:32:49,468 So I did, and the next morning, 516 00:32:49,551 --> 00:32:51,970 they picked me up and took me down to the courthouse. 517 00:32:54,055 --> 00:32:55,936 [Kulp] And there she was, in court the next day. 518 00:32:55,974 --> 00:32:59,811 I raised hell with the judge about it, but my efforts to have her... 519 00:33:01,229 --> 00:33:03,899 excluded from testifying were... did not work. 520 00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:08,612 [Villalobos] Well, I remember that night very well. It was March 13th. 521 00:33:09,196 --> 00:33:10,822 It was my brother's birthday. 522 00:33:10,906 --> 00:33:14,034 We were out partying at a club on Dorchester Road. 523 00:33:14,618 --> 00:33:18,288 And I was getting close to running out of money, and he didn't have any at all. 524 00:33:18,371 --> 00:33:21,541 So, I thought about Teresa and her coming over... 525 00:33:21,625 --> 00:33:24,461 Letting me come over and cash a check since she was still there. 526 00:33:26,421 --> 00:33:30,800 When I arrived, I had to knock on the door because the place was closed. 527 00:33:31,384 --> 00:33:34,012 And Wesley opened the door and let me in. 528 00:33:34,471 --> 00:33:36,431 She gave me half the money for the check 529 00:33:37,098 --> 00:33:39,518 and told me she'd give me the rest on Friday. 530 00:33:39,601 --> 00:33:41,645 And I noticed that she was crying 531 00:33:41,728 --> 00:33:46,107 because her makeup was completely just running down her face. 532 00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:50,612 So, I knew she was upset, and I asked her if she needed me 533 00:33:50,695 --> 00:33:54,324 to stay there with her for a while, and she told me, "No, it's just Wesley. 534 00:33:54,407 --> 00:33:56,785 I can handle him. I've been doing it for years. 535 00:33:57,452 --> 00:33:59,829 You go ahead and do what you're gonna do." 536 00:34:01,790 --> 00:34:05,585 And I left, and he locked the door behind me. 537 00:34:07,671 --> 00:34:10,757 The strongest thing, on short notice, that I could come up with 538 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,553 to impeach her credibility before the jury... was this. 539 00:34:15,136 --> 00:34:18,723 Simple, what we call "cornering" in cross-examination. 540 00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:24,521 [Kulp] "You know this occurred almost four years ago." "Yes." 541 00:34:25,522 --> 00:34:28,608 "And I'm sure that you saw it in the press, 542 00:34:28,692 --> 00:34:31,278 either television coverage or in the newspaper." 543 00:34:31,861 --> 00:34:32,861 "Yes." 544 00:34:33,989 --> 00:34:39,244 "And so, I would imagine that that being the case... 545 00:34:39,828 --> 00:34:42,372 and considering your testimony here today... 546 00:34:43,373 --> 00:34:47,460 that you immediately picked up the phone and called the police 547 00:34:47,544 --> 00:34:50,463 and went down to the police station and said, 'You know what? 548 00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:52,299 That guy was in the bar.'" 549 00:34:53,091 --> 00:34:54,342 "No, I didn't do that." 550 00:34:54,801 --> 00:34:59,639 And I said, "So, at any time since that almost four years ago event, 551 00:34:59,723 --> 00:35:01,975 your viewing of him in the bar, 552 00:35:02,058 --> 00:35:05,979 have you mentioned to any other person that you saw him in the bar?" "No." 553 00:35:06,646 --> 00:35:11,276 "So, the first time that came to mind was last night, 554 00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:12,485 when you're in a bar 555 00:35:12,569 --> 00:35:15,113 and a friend of the victim's is telling you she's worried 556 00:35:15,196 --> 00:35:17,532 that the case is going down the tubes... 557 00:35:18,325 --> 00:35:20,869 and then you recalled it and told her about it. 558 00:35:21,578 --> 00:35:23,872 Is that correct?" "Yes." 559 00:35:24,331 --> 00:35:27,500 So, you know, pulling that out of your back pocket, I mean, 560 00:35:27,584 --> 00:35:29,085 what else are you gonna do? 561 00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:32,756 Laurie... has a record... 562 00:35:35,175 --> 00:35:36,259 as long as a door. 563 00:35:42,932 --> 00:35:44,413 [Myers] What had actually happened... 564 00:35:44,684 --> 00:35:48,355 she'd come by that Monday to get a check cashed... 565 00:35:48,855 --> 00:35:52,817 and I told Teresa I wouldn't give her all the money for it 566 00:35:52,901 --> 00:35:54,527 'cause it may be a bad check. 567 00:35:55,528 --> 00:35:59,491 And she didn't, and Laurie got a little hostile about it. 568 00:35:59,574 --> 00:36:02,160 I never... I never did anything. 569 00:36:02,243 --> 00:36:07,082 I never went to the police or... I assumed since the man confessed, 570 00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:09,292 he was just going to prison from there. 571 00:36:09,376 --> 00:36:13,129 And apparently, he confessed on CNN, and the whole world saw it. 572 00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:18,259 So, why would...? I never thought there would be a trial. 573 00:36:18,343 --> 00:36:20,512 I thought, "He confessed, he's going to prison." 574 00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:24,057 It's, you know... Isn't that the way it works in America? 575 00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:28,436 I guess she seemed credible at the time, relatively. 576 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,816 And I do recall that that did play into our decision, you know, 577 00:36:32,899 --> 00:36:34,234 when we deliberated. 578 00:36:34,317 --> 00:36:36,027 You know, to be accused... 579 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,699 is not supposed to shift the burden of proof to you. 580 00:36:43,493 --> 00:36:45,954 Everyone under the Constitution is presumed innocent. 581 00:36:47,622 --> 00:36:48,665 But, in reality... 582 00:36:50,417 --> 00:36:56,005 Based on the little bit of evidence that we had, the hair could have been his, 583 00:36:56,089 --> 00:36:58,550 we found him guilty. 584 00:37:04,431 --> 00:37:06,349 Wesley admitted what he did. 585 00:37:06,808 --> 00:37:09,561 He was tried. He was found guilty. 586 00:37:09,644 --> 00:37:11,604 I thought they all... they did their job. 587 00:37:11,688 --> 00:37:13,648 They did what they were supposed to do. 588 00:37:13,732 --> 00:37:18,361 We just felt that no one would confess three times if they didn't do it. 589 00:37:34,169 --> 00:37:35,855 [Myers] I'm gonna tell you something. When you go to prison, 590 00:37:35,879 --> 00:37:38,173 the little things that mean something to you... 591 00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:41,968 like the sound of a creek... 592 00:37:44,888 --> 00:37:45,888 a hug... 593 00:37:48,808 --> 00:37:53,313 I missed fishing, the outdoors, the woods. I lived in them. I loved them. 594 00:37:59,778 --> 00:38:00,778 Quiet. 595 00:38:05,533 --> 00:38:07,952 They took that love away from me. 596 00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:16,211 I remember the first time I went up to Kirkland to see him. 597 00:38:17,962 --> 00:38:20,757 And it was just nice just to be able to sit and talk. 598 00:38:21,758 --> 00:38:27,305 We played gin rummy every time I went. And whoever won was, you know, 599 00:38:27,388 --> 00:38:29,140 the rummy champion of the world. 600 00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:34,187 [Margiotta] When I was there, he tried to be very upbeat. 601 00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:36,940 But, um... when he would come out, 602 00:38:37,023 --> 00:38:41,945 his eyes would be just rimmed with black. 603 00:38:42,529 --> 00:38:44,906 And, I mean, I knew he was living in hell. 604 00:38:50,495 --> 00:38:53,206 I actually got the case because a private investigator, 605 00:38:53,289 --> 00:38:57,877 who I've worked with on a number of other cases of wrongful imprisonment, 606 00:38:57,961 --> 00:39:00,505 thought that Wes had been wrongfully convicted 607 00:39:00,588 --> 00:39:02,465 and asked if I would look into the case. 608 00:39:03,132 --> 00:39:06,469 Truthfully, I often enter it with a sense of skepticism about it. 609 00:39:06,553 --> 00:39:09,389 I review many cases, and truthfully, I take very few. 610 00:39:10,056 --> 00:39:14,143 But this was a family who felt very strongly that their son 611 00:39:14,227 --> 00:39:17,814 was wrongfully convicted of a crime that he didn't commit. 612 00:39:18,648 --> 00:39:21,192 So, I met with them. I reviewed the files. 613 00:39:21,276 --> 00:39:24,112 I went and talked with Wes on a number of occasions. 614 00:39:24,195 --> 00:39:28,491 I hired a private investigator to look into several of the allegations. 615 00:39:29,117 --> 00:39:33,580 And, eventually, I became convinced myself that Wes was, in fact, 616 00:39:33,663 --> 00:39:34,831 not guilty of this. 617 00:39:37,125 --> 00:39:40,503 [Blume] According to the state law enforcement division... 618 00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:44,007 they did what they call "microscopic hair analysis," 619 00:39:44,090 --> 00:39:46,426 which is, somebody looks at the hair in the microscope. 620 00:39:47,051 --> 00:39:49,762 Then they look at a sample of Wes Myers' hair 621 00:39:49,846 --> 00:39:52,348 and said they thought the hairs were consistent. 622 00:39:55,143 --> 00:39:58,771 Since then, the hair's been tested through DNA evidence 623 00:39:59,188 --> 00:40:03,526 and has been conclusively determined to not be Mr. Myers' hair. 624 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:13,745 In addition to that, there was a bloody dollar bill found in her jean's pocket. 625 00:40:13,828 --> 00:40:20,084 And a DNA expert was able to conclusively testify that the source of the DNA, 626 00:40:20,168 --> 00:40:23,796 the male DNA on the dollar bill was the blood that was on it... 627 00:40:25,548 --> 00:40:28,843 and that the blood was not Mr. Myers' blood. 628 00:40:29,761 --> 00:40:35,016 So, you have male DNA on a bloody dollar bill found in the victim's back pocket, 629 00:40:35,099 --> 00:40:37,644 which wasn't Mr. Myers' and belonged to someone else. 630 00:40:38,937 --> 00:40:41,689 The evidence that he did this, if you take away the confession, 631 00:40:41,773 --> 00:40:44,484 is virtually nonexistent. 632 00:40:45,860 --> 00:40:51,199 Other than Ms. Villalobos, there's no one who can put Wes near the scene that night. 633 00:40:51,783 --> 00:40:54,285 His mother, who was... People might be skeptical of his mother, 634 00:40:54,369 --> 00:40:56,049 but his mother was a very credible person. 635 00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:59,248 She was, you know, a school principal in the area for many years, 636 00:40:59,332 --> 00:41:01,250 was insistent that Wes never left the home. 637 00:41:02,794 --> 00:41:04,504 There's no physical evidence at all. 638 00:41:05,171 --> 00:41:11,135 No fingerprints, no DNA, no hair, no fiber that links Wes to this offense. 639 00:41:11,219 --> 00:41:15,598 The physical evidence which does exist suggests that he's not the perpetrator. 640 00:41:35,535 --> 00:41:40,248 So, like, you see where sayings come from, like "so close and yet so far away" and... 641 00:41:40,999 --> 00:41:42,959 stuff like that because... 642 00:41:43,042 --> 00:41:46,212 For instance, when my case got overturned by Judge Dennis... 643 00:41:47,463 --> 00:41:49,632 I'm going, "Yay, I'm gonna be home soon." 644 00:41:50,258 --> 00:41:53,928 It took the State Supreme Court three years to write one line... 645 00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:58,725 to vacate my... affirming Judge Dennis' sentence. 646 00:42:01,019 --> 00:42:04,689 I stayed in prison three years... waiting for that. 647 00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:06,690 And, uh... 648 00:42:11,446 --> 00:42:12,739 why did it take so long? 649 00:42:15,283 --> 00:42:16,743 Uh... 650 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,000 [pan sizzling] 651 00:42:27,045 --> 00:42:30,798 I love to cook. I like to eat. 652 00:42:32,091 --> 00:42:35,845 Both of us have that in common, that we both love to eat. 653 00:42:35,928 --> 00:42:36,929 [laughs] 654 00:42:39,182 --> 00:42:42,643 I never ever would have saw myself with a younger man. 655 00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:46,689 But it's happened and it's... It's really wonderful for me 656 00:42:46,773 --> 00:42:48,357 because he's a wonderful person. 657 00:42:51,277 --> 00:42:56,157 Wes and I played cards, and we always kept score, and, um... 658 00:42:57,366 --> 00:43:01,245 I always took the scorecard home with me. 659 00:43:01,329 --> 00:43:04,707 And somewhere in a box in my closet, I've got all of them, 660 00:43:04,791 --> 00:43:07,043 but this is one of them from... 661 00:43:08,127 --> 00:43:11,297 February the 25th, 2012. 662 00:43:11,380 --> 00:43:15,218 Towards the end, before he got out of prison... 663 00:43:17,345 --> 00:43:21,432 I realized how deeply I felt about him. 664 00:43:22,016 --> 00:43:25,561 After he got out, everything just really fell into place. 665 00:43:27,105 --> 00:43:31,067 It's just been a long time. I'm very tired, very tired. 666 00:43:47,375 --> 00:43:49,293 They have hardened me. 667 00:43:52,421 --> 00:43:54,966 I have a hard time signing my name to anything. 668 00:44:07,937 --> 00:44:12,108 [Myers] I do a lot of my thinking time and that out here... 669 00:44:13,693 --> 00:44:15,194 walking through the orchard. 670 00:44:17,822 --> 00:44:18,906 I'm not a number. 671 00:44:20,283 --> 00:44:23,661 And... I ended up being one. 672 00:44:23,744 --> 00:44:27,165 27-33-28. It's implanted in me. 673 00:44:28,875 --> 00:44:32,044 I recited it four times a day for all these years. 674 00:44:34,005 --> 00:44:35,256 And, uh... 675 00:44:36,215 --> 00:44:39,051 I blame myself for being weak... 676 00:44:43,389 --> 00:44:45,808 for confessing to something I didn't do. 57261

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