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Tell me about that day.
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That was probably the most difficult day
of my life.
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Today, the State Board
of Medical Examiners
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summarily suspended
Dr. Jacqueline Cleggett.
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Cleggett's lawyer tells us
he'll be asking for
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a full hearing tomorrow.
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I spent a very, very long time
to become a physician.
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Too many hardships I had to endure
to actually get to where I was
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to have it snatched away.
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My desire to become a physician
started when I was eight years old.
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I wanted to help people.
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Simple as that.
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Chronic pain is subjective.
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You must rely on
the patient's explanation,
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because often there are no physical signs
that you can objectively diagnose.
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In other words,
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your pain is what you say it is.
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In seeking to help patients,
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you try to provide
the best possible resource to them.
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OxyContin was very effective.
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So that's why that drug was selected.
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Do you remember
any of your patients dying?
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Do you have specific patients in mind?
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After Dr. Cleggett's license
was suspended...
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you have to give the physician
a due process hearing
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within 90 days
of the time that you summarily suspend.
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So the clock is ticking.
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In the complaint,
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there are well over
100 factual allegations.
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Fifty, sixty pages.
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Family members contacted Dr. Cleggett
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and tried to get her to agree
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to quit treating their son
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or daughter or husband
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because they were addicted and impaired,
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and they were misusing their medications,
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and they got no, um, response
from Dr. Cleggett.
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Or if they got a response,
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it was negative.
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We had affidavits from coroners,
uh, DEA people,
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you know, narcotics agents.
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They see young people
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with foam coming out of their mouths.
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OxyContin bottles
with Dr. Cleggett's name on it
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strewn on the floor.
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I had all of that ready to go
and I was ready to move.
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I got a phone call
from the medical board,
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asking me if I might give a deposition
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against Dr. Cleggett,
who was trying to get her license back.
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The deposition was the first time
I sat down across from Dr. Cleggett.
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Her attorney was trying to belittle me.
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He painted this picture
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that I wasn't able to catch
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my son's addiction before he died.
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And that I would have done anything
to put her out of business
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to make up for my son's death.
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Her attorney says...
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"Mr. Schneider, what length
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would you have
gone to to put her out of business?
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What would you have spent...
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to put her out of business?"
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And I said...
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"What's a life worth?"
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We had a hearing set.
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And a few days before the hearing,
we get word
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Dr. Cleggett has been admitted
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to DePaul-Tulane Behavioral Center
for opiate abuse...
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and cannot attend the hearing.
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DEA had information
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from some patients
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who said that Dr. Cleggett not only
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gave out prescription drugs,
she used prescriptions.
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On one occasion,
while we were conducting observation,
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I saw Dr. Cleggett taking pills herself
when arriving at the clinic.
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We got a search warrant
to search her home.
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In plain view, there were numerous bottles
of prescription medication,
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some with pills in 'em, some empty.
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just laying around in Dr. Cleggett's home.
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So you were never self-medicating?
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Mm-mm.
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Mm-mm.
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You didn't suffer from addiction?
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No.
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I was never addicted.
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After Dr. Cleggett was admitted
into DePaul
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and her abuse was well-documented...
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Dr. Cleggett and her attorney
were agreeable...
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to the total termination
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of her medical license
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without having to admit any wrongdoing.
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Dr. Cleggett's license was revoked
in 2003.
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However, it was years later
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before the US Attorney indicted her.
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When you see...
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your name...
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versus the United States of America...
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if that doesn't strike fear
into your heart, I don't know what will.
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"So the entire country's against me?"
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She was one of the first doctors
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the US Attorney's office prosecuted.
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I was given a subpoena.
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And they asked me
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to bring everything I had done,
through either the medical board
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or the FBI or the DEA.
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And I was basically told when I got there
that I was probably the primary witness.
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And shortly after that,
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I found out that there were other cases
against Dr. Cleggett.
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I was an operative
of Purdue Pharma...
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but I was subpoenaed individually.
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I don't know if it was a group of patients
that got together and they were suing her
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and somehow or another
my name got tangled up in this,
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or if it was kind of a blanket action
to get Purdue reps,
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to get them to answer questions
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about the territory in general.
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But it wasn't, "Purdue Pharma and Chris."
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So I had to go show up.
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The questions revolved around,
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"What do you know about Dr. Cleggett?
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What do you know about the promotion
of OxyContin in this territory?"
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I answered the questions.
I answered honestly.
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And I remember being relieved
when I walked out.
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And I remember having my mind made up...
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when I walked out...
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that I got to get the fuck away
from this...
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because I'm not going any deeper
than where I am right now.
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Right before the indictment...
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I heard that Dr. Cleggett
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was in a car accident.
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I was asleep
on the passenger side.
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The driver took out a section of trees,
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going at approximately 80 miles an hour.
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They said I nearly died in that crash.
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They were correct.
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I had a hangman's fracture,
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which is what happens
when you hang from a noose
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and break your neck.
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I suffered the exact same injury
in the car accident.
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I had two brain hemorrhages...
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five skull fractures.
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The reason why I sound different
is because I was intubated
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for six weeks.
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My voice is now higher and squeakier.
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Following the accident...
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I was prescribed OxyContin.
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And, no,
I didn't have any problems with it.
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Actually...
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it helped alleviate a lot of pain.
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At the time,
she was partially paralyzed,
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but Dr. Cleggett eventually
was brought to trial
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for the operation of her pain clinic.
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The criminal prosecution
placed Dr. Cleggett at risk
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for somewhere around 20 years
of incarceration
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and fines of around a million dollars.
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She was originally charged
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with 37 counts of conspiracy
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to distribute controlled
substances for no medical purpose.
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Because she was in
this terrible automobile accident,
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her attorney worked out a plea agreement
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with the US Attorney's office.
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She was charged
with only one count of conspiracy
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to prescribe a controlled substance
without a legitimate medical purpose.
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Which, in fact,
means she was not practicing medicine,
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period.
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I pleaded guilty to one count
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even though I knew...
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that I had not done
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what they stated I had done.
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Due to her impairment
from the car accident,
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she did not do any prison time
and was on probation for three years.
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She didn't go to jail.
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But part of her plea agreement
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was to agree never to operate
a pain clinic ever again.
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Sometimes,
I actually have dreams
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about practicing medicine.
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And...
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for a few moments, when I wake up...
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it seems that dream is actually real.
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But that's a dream about the past.
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A dream that I can never get back.
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Her punishment did not fit the crime.
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And I'll leave it at that.
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Yeah.
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After Dr. Cleggett got shut down...
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I felt like I had accomplished my mission.
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And I thought
that might be the end of this.
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That wasn't the end.
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That was the beginning.
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It was like a cancer.
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It metastasized.
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Pills were just readily available.
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Pill mills were, you know,
kind of popping up all over the place.
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It seemed like they were replicating
Dr. Cleggett's business model, okay?
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So many addicts had been created
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and people knew there was real money
to be made off every one of them.
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How easy is it
to open and run a clinic?
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According to the DEA, just about anyone
who's willing to fill out the paperwork
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and pay the taxes can do it.
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You go to the Sheriff's Office
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and make an application
for an occupational license
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and you agree to pay sales tax
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and you're issued a license
and you can open a clinic.
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I was really disappointed in
the doctors.
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They had sworn to do no harm.
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They had been trained all their lives
to help people
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and here they were killing people.
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Every week,
the DEA sees one or two applications
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from people trying to open up
new pain clinics in the New Orleans area.
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We now estimate that there's 60
and the number is growing.
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But this problem
has reached crisis proportions.
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More than 60 pain clinics
had popped up.
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And fatal overdoses doubled
in St. Bernard.
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A lot of people
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felt it was a hopeless situation.
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But I saw the drug problem
as a dark tunnel that we were in.
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And I had a dream that maybe, just maybe,
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there could be light
at the end of the tunnel
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or somehow we could create some light
at the end of the tunnel.
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In St. Bernard Parish,
there's a stretch of trees
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that forms a tunnel.
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We call it the tunnel of oaks.
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Danny and I would be in the Mustang
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and we would ride through
that beautiful tunnel.
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It was always part of a route
that we would take,
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what we called "down the road."
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I saw it as a symbol of hope.
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So I started calling this mission
that I was on, "The Tunnel of Hope."
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We never had all the answers
we wanted,
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why Danny got killed that night.
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But Danny was still on a mission
to help other parents
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with kids that have drug problems.
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'Cause we didn't want that to happen
to their families.
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I had a chance
to save a bunch of kids.
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I wanted to do something for my community.
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Apparently, most people
are like I was in the past.
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And they just let everything slide.
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Everything just kind of goes by 'em.
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I have a little saying.
Some people watch things happen.
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Some people make things happen.
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And some people say, "What happened?"
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And I'm in a "make happen" stage.
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I'm speaking out.
I plan to speak at schools.
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We gotta try to make a difference
against incredible odds again.
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And Danny's right by our side.
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I appreciate
the opportunity to speak to you all.
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I'm here representing my family,
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including my son,
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to deliver this message
and see if we can't make a difference.
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I started talking to kids
on a regular basis.
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And Robbie,
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many times,
would show up in a supportive fashion
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and be part of the audience.
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Something had to change.
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You had young teenagers
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just looking to get high.
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Now they're starting with something
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that could kill 'em on the first dose.
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Danny had talked to me
about marijuana,
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saying it was safe and saying,
"But, Dad, I wouldn't go any further."
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And every person...
260
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And every person that goes further,
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do you think that any of them
think it's going to lead to death
262
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or them being in jail?
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Not one of 'em.
264
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After he talked at some of
the schools...
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he almost became a mentor
to some of the kids,
266
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'cause they would call him up
on the phone.
267
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I remember, one night, we were sleeping,
it was like two o'clock in the morning.
268
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The phone rang and it was this kid
that needed to talk to Danny.
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What I want to point out
to y'all in the audience is this:
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If I asked you
to look at the ten people around you...
271
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which of your friends do you think
would be the one that would screw up?
272
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You might form an opinion on that,
273
00:18:11,173 --> 00:18:12,257
but it'd be curious,
274
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because if you ask
the person you picked...
275
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they might pick you.
276
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It can happen to any one of you.
277
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We've got to reverse the trend.
278
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2004, 2005,
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I was developing a lot of momentum.
280
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People started to know kind of who I was
and what was going on.
281
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I was writing articlesin the newspaper.
282
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I wrote lettersto a number of politicians
283
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trying to motivate somebody
to try to reduce this problem.
284
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Could we get
the pharmaceutical manufacturers
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at least to maybe pay
for some of this carnage?
286
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We worked on pain clinic law.
287
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We worked on pain clinic moratoriums.
288
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I not only wanted to change St. Bernard,
289
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I wanted to change the country.
290
00:19:10,232 --> 00:19:11,316
That was my dream.
291
00:19:16,613 --> 00:19:19,116
I was feeling good
about where I was going with my mission,
292
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and so I scheduled a town hall meeting.
293
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We were getting very, very close, uh,
to that meeting.
294
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We had a date scheduled,
I'd already printed materials on it.
295
00:19:31,753 --> 00:19:35,591
And then we heard about a hurricane
that was out in the Gulf.
296
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There's been a subtle change
297
00:19:44,516 --> 00:19:46,727
in the track of this, which may mean...
298
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Hurricane Katrina
continues to move west,
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taking aim at southeast Louisiana.
300
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My cell phone rings,
"Is this Sheriff Stephens?"
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I say, "Yes."
302
00:19:55,402 --> 00:19:57,863
He says,
"I'm with the National Hurricane Center.
303
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I'm sorry to have to make this call."
304
00:19:59,698 --> 00:20:02,075
He said, "But you're gonna have
a 30-foot wall of water
305
00:20:02,159 --> 00:20:03,368
hit your parish tomorrow.
306
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You're gonna flood levy to levy
307
00:20:05,162 --> 00:20:07,122
and there's not going to be
a structure spared.
308
00:20:07,748 --> 00:20:09,833
And you're gonna have
significant loss of life.
309
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God bless you and good luck,"
and they hung the phone up.
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If persons haven't evacuated
by now...
311
00:20:17,966 --> 00:20:20,302
they need to leave immediately.
312
00:20:20,844 --> 00:20:24,473
It is a 100% probability.
313
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For God's sake,
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00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:29,728
if you're listening
to this broadcast right now,
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get out.
316
00:20:30,771 --> 00:20:32,371
The news people had kind of warned
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some major damage might happen.
318
00:20:34,858 --> 00:20:37,361
But we just could not envision
319
00:20:37,444 --> 00:20:38,779
the entire St. Bernard...
320
00:20:39,863 --> 00:20:43,242
The levy breach has occurred
along the industrial canal.
321
00:20:43,325 --> 00:20:46,036
There's gotta be a break
in the levy somewhere
322
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'cause the water's still coming up.
323
00:20:48,872 --> 00:20:50,457
Oh, no!
324
00:20:50,582 --> 00:20:53,752
Here it comes, up the front door.
It broke the front door.
325
00:20:53,835 --> 00:20:56,838
Oh, God. I can't believe this.
326
00:21:00,133 --> 00:21:02,052
There were four houses over there.
327
00:21:02,719 --> 00:21:04,846
Now they're gone. All four of them.
328
00:21:06,431 --> 00:21:07,891
Oh, Jesus Christ!
329
00:21:08,767 --> 00:21:10,185
Moving right down the Bayou.
330
00:21:12,437 --> 00:21:14,982
Oh, God, please let it stop.
331
00:21:38,255 --> 00:21:40,655
Look at that car. You see?
It was halfway on the roof.
332
00:21:40,716 --> 00:21:42,997
- Was it? Okay.
- Yeah. Come back, you might see it.
333
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,013
Entering St. Bernard Parish
for the first time.
334
00:21:46,096 --> 00:21:48,015
Hopefully entering St. Bernard Parish.
335
00:21:48,807 --> 00:21:49,850
Unbelievable.
336
00:21:53,937 --> 00:21:57,149
Never realized how much I cared
for this community until this happened.
337
00:21:58,025 --> 00:21:59,318
Everything has been destroyed.
338
00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:00,986
Totally destroyed.
339
00:22:04,031 --> 00:22:06,116
It was the largest natural disaster
340
00:22:06,199 --> 00:22:07,826
in the country's history at that point.
341
00:22:13,373 --> 00:22:14,583
Here's our house.
342
00:22:21,131 --> 00:22:23,258
There's Kristi, with her boots, going in.
343
00:22:26,887 --> 00:22:28,472
Holy crap.
344
00:22:28,555 --> 00:22:29,681
I'm going down.
345
00:22:30,182 --> 00:22:31,382
Good Lord. Look at that!
346
00:22:31,683 --> 00:22:32,934
Came right through the ceiling.
347
00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:34,144
- What?
- Yeah.
348
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,065
Kristi's trying to go upstairs.
349
00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:43,320
Okay, wait a minute.
350
00:22:43,570 --> 00:22:45,864
Merry Christmas!
351
00:22:49,534 --> 00:22:50,619
It's Danny.
352
00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:52,620
He's up.
353
00:22:55,874 --> 00:22:58,394
That was the only house
I ever lived in my entire life.
354
00:23:01,129 --> 00:23:02,798
Ta-da!
355
00:23:03,715 --> 00:23:06,510
All the memories with my brother
were there and...
356
00:23:15,936 --> 00:23:18,772
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
357
00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:25,112
All of St. Bernard
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had pain and anguish, just like us.
359
00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:34,788
And, unfortunately, a lot of people
turned to OxyContin to cope.
360
00:23:37,124 --> 00:23:39,418
When we were starting
to rebuild this place,
361
00:23:39,501 --> 00:23:42,546
the melancholy and the grief
362
00:23:42,921 --> 00:23:44,840
and the depression after Katrina
363
00:23:44,923 --> 00:23:46,133
was unbelievable.
364
00:23:46,550 --> 00:23:48,969
They had more people
turn to drugs and alcohol
365
00:23:49,052 --> 00:23:52,097
after that storm
than you could ever imagine.
366
00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:56,393
People you would never assume
would take pills to survive...
367
00:23:57,018 --> 00:23:58,018
were doing it.
368
00:23:59,604 --> 00:24:01,815
St. Bernard is blue collar.
369
00:24:01,898 --> 00:24:04,985
A lot of 'em got hurt doing manual labor.
370
00:24:06,027 --> 00:24:08,280
So, the demand was there.
371
00:24:09,114 --> 00:24:13,368
There were doctors
that were willing to supply that demand.
372
00:24:14,661 --> 00:24:16,580
It's a perfect storm.
373
00:24:27,841 --> 00:24:32,971
After Katrina, it was amazing
that the hundred-year oak trees survived.
374
00:24:34,055 --> 00:24:35,599
The Tunnel of Hope survived.
375
00:24:35,682 --> 00:24:37,267
I knew my mission had to go on.
376
00:24:39,436 --> 00:24:40,854
When Katrina came,
377
00:24:40,937 --> 00:24:45,442
almost all of Danny's documents
and everything was upstairs
378
00:24:45,525 --> 00:24:46,525
in the attic.
379
00:24:46,985 --> 00:24:49,112
Everything in the attic got saved.
380
00:24:50,655 --> 00:24:52,699
And it was amazing,
381
00:24:52,782 --> 00:24:55,118
'cause everything else
pretty much was destroyed.
382
00:24:56,745 --> 00:25:00,207
And so I felt God wanted me
to do something beyond Cleggett.
383
00:25:00,874 --> 00:25:03,168
OxyContin was still out there.
384
00:25:04,252 --> 00:25:06,172
The only way
we could make a serious dent in this
385
00:25:06,254 --> 00:25:07,923
was to go at the source.
386
00:25:09,424 --> 00:25:11,184
Something had to be done
about Purdue Pharma.
387
00:25:15,388 --> 00:25:16,515
In 2007,
388
00:25:16,598 --> 00:25:21,937
Purdue Pharma was convicted
of misrepresenting the abuse liability,
389
00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:24,439
or the addictive potential of OxyContin.
390
00:25:24,523 --> 00:25:26,203
Purdue's marketing of OxyContin
391
00:25:26,233 --> 00:25:27,776
was deceptive and criminal.
392
00:25:28,443 --> 00:25:31,071
It is important to note
that most of the people never claimed
393
00:25:31,154 --> 00:25:34,699
that Purdue was solely responsible
for their loved one's death.
394
00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:38,286
They just wanted Purdue
to tell the truth about the drug.
395
00:25:39,329 --> 00:25:43,792
The patients were told,
"This has lower addictive qualities."
396
00:25:45,126 --> 00:25:46,795
Compared to fucking what?
397
00:25:50,048 --> 00:25:52,551
You know, I mean,
that's a serious question.
398
00:25:53,093 --> 00:25:54,886
Compared to what?
399
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,351
Their executives
were slapped on the wrist, okay?
400
00:26:02,352 --> 00:26:05,313
The company had to pay
600 million dollars in fines,
401
00:26:05,397 --> 00:26:08,608
but these guys never really
accepted responsibility
402
00:26:08,692 --> 00:26:11,570
for the opiate epidemic
that they helped create.
403
00:26:13,363 --> 00:26:17,617
Even after the Purdue executives
plead guilty in 2007,
404
00:26:17,701 --> 00:26:19,911
they didn't stop promoting OxyContin.
405
00:26:19,995 --> 00:26:22,163
They promoted it harder than ever.
406
00:26:30,505 --> 00:26:31,590
Somebody...
407
00:26:32,632 --> 00:26:35,427
should have said, "Whoa."
408
00:26:35,969 --> 00:26:39,681
Somebody should have
pumped the fucking brakes and said...
409
00:26:40,307 --> 00:26:41,391
"Whoa,
410
00:26:41,474 --> 00:26:42,517
we got problems."
411
00:26:43,018 --> 00:26:45,061
You know? "We got problems, Houston.
412
00:26:46,146 --> 00:26:47,272
We're leaking oil."
413
00:26:50,942 --> 00:26:53,445
I finally came to the conclusion
that Purdue Pharma
414
00:26:53,528 --> 00:26:55,280
was not gonna stop what they were doing.
415
00:26:57,532 --> 00:26:59,826
But maybe we could stop
the prescription problem,
416
00:26:59,909 --> 00:27:01,286
which was producing addicts.
417
00:27:03,413 --> 00:27:04,914
What can we do...
418
00:27:05,749 --> 00:27:07,375
to curb pill-mill doctors?
419
00:27:09,836 --> 00:27:11,671
This hour,
we're talking about...
420
00:27:11,755 --> 00:27:14,633
Are these pain control clinics
out of control?
421
00:27:14,883 --> 00:27:16,051
These are prescriptions
422
00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:17,636
that are filled at pharmacies.
423
00:27:17,719 --> 00:27:18,803
Exactly.
424
00:27:18,887 --> 00:27:21,681
And we're not in a position to know
425
00:27:21,765 --> 00:27:24,118
whether or not these people
are seeing more than one doctor.
426
00:27:24,142 --> 00:27:25,810
What do they call it?
Drug shopping?
427
00:27:25,894 --> 00:27:27,395
Drug shopping, doctor shopping.
428
00:27:27,479 --> 00:27:29,105
- Doctor shopping. Yeah.
- Correct.
429
00:27:30,398 --> 00:27:31,483
I was advocating
430
00:27:31,566 --> 00:27:33,777
for a prescription monitoring program.
431
00:27:35,570 --> 00:27:36,905
I didn't invent this thing,
432
00:27:36,988 --> 00:27:38,740
but I saw it
in some other states
433
00:27:38,823 --> 00:27:39,741
and on the news.
434
00:27:39,824 --> 00:27:42,827
And I started saying,
"God, this is a great idea."
435
00:27:43,745 --> 00:27:45,705
I wrote a letter to the pharmacy board.
436
00:27:46,748 --> 00:27:51,127
And it was just weeks later,
they came back and said,
437
00:27:51,211 --> 00:27:54,089
"We have listened to your proposition,
we agree with you
438
00:27:54,172 --> 00:27:56,299
and we're gonna do it."
439
00:27:59,219 --> 00:28:01,304
With the prescription monitoring program,
440
00:28:01,388 --> 00:28:03,014
we didn't have to go to pharmacies.
441
00:28:03,598 --> 00:28:04,516
We could see it
442
00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:06,601
on one computer-generated print-out.
443
00:28:07,977 --> 00:28:09,938
The PMP made it a lot easier...
444
00:28:10,855 --> 00:28:12,565
to prosecute doctors.
445
00:28:12,899 --> 00:28:15,902
Two pain management clinics
are the targets of raids
446
00:28:15,985 --> 00:28:17,696
by the US Drug Enforcement Agency.
447
00:28:17,779 --> 00:28:19,423
Dr. Richard Paolino was charged
448
00:28:19,447 --> 00:28:21,408
with more than 1,000 counts of fraud
449
00:28:21,491 --> 00:28:23,618
associated with OxyContin prescriptions.
450
00:28:24,494 --> 00:28:26,996
We finally started
curtailing doctors a little bit
451
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,249
to reduce the OxyContin that they wrote.
452
00:28:31,918 --> 00:28:35,505
The 61-year-old physician
was basically a drug dealer
453
00:28:35,588 --> 00:28:36,881
with a medical license.
454
00:28:39,426 --> 00:28:42,011
OxyContin began getting restricted.
455
00:28:42,929 --> 00:28:46,850
Pharmacies were refusing
to fill certain prescriptions.
456
00:28:46,933 --> 00:28:48,560
It was just getting harder
457
00:28:48,643 --> 00:28:52,689
for people that were addicted
to get those opioids prescribed.
458
00:28:53,189 --> 00:28:55,191
So people moved to heroin.
459
00:28:59,112 --> 00:29:03,908
People get addicted
and then the supply goes away.
460
00:29:03,992 --> 00:29:06,411
So what happens when the supply goes away?
461
00:29:06,494 --> 00:29:08,163
People find a new supply,
462
00:29:08,788 --> 00:29:12,375
because they're addicted
and they don't have any other options.
463
00:29:13,460 --> 00:29:16,212
The drug cartels saw an opportunity
464
00:29:16,296 --> 00:29:17,714
to fill an enormous vacuum
465
00:29:17,797 --> 00:29:20,008
with the interruption of the pill mills.
466
00:29:20,091 --> 00:29:22,194
Then, all of a sudden,
we've got as bad a drug problem
467
00:29:22,218 --> 00:29:23,344
as we've ever had.
468
00:29:23,970 --> 00:29:26,410
We want to tell you
about a skyrocketing threat
469
00:29:26,473 --> 00:29:29,100
in suburban communities
across the country tonight.
470
00:29:29,184 --> 00:29:32,729
The explosion of heroin
isn't by accident.
471
00:29:33,855 --> 00:29:35,899
The prescription monitoring program
472
00:29:36,107 --> 00:29:39,736
has turned opiate addicts
who can't get their fix in a pill form
473
00:29:39,819 --> 00:29:40,819
to heroin.
474
00:29:42,739 --> 00:29:44,657
Cheaper than prescription pills,
475
00:29:44,741 --> 00:29:46,576
heroin gives users the same fix,
476
00:29:46,659 --> 00:29:49,078
but at a significantly lower cost.
477
00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:55,084
Prescription opioids
became the gateway to heroin addiction.
478
00:29:57,212 --> 00:29:59,297
Seventy-five percentof heroin users
479
00:29:59,380 --> 00:30:03,134
said the first opioid they ever used
was a prescription opioid.
480
00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:07,305
When you're getting something legal
from a doctor
481
00:30:07,388 --> 00:30:09,098
with a legitimate prescription...
482
00:30:09,849 --> 00:30:10,725
it's not like,
483
00:30:10,809 --> 00:30:12,602
you know, going into the city
484
00:30:12,685 --> 00:30:15,563
and buying heroin on the street,
which is illegal.
485
00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:17,857
It's dirtierto people.
486
00:30:20,485 --> 00:30:22,612
But an addict is an addict,
487
00:30:22,695 --> 00:30:25,406
and if you put a heroin addict
and an OxyContin addict
488
00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:27,534
in a room for a few days, using,
489
00:30:27,617 --> 00:30:29,536
you wouldn't be able to tell them apart,
490
00:30:29,619 --> 00:30:31,538
because it does the same exact thing.
491
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,842
Just when I thought
I was getting everything maybe resolved...
492
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:46,511
I saw so many unintended consequences.
493
00:30:47,136 --> 00:30:48,471
Now they're going to heroin!
494
00:30:48,596 --> 00:30:49,681
It was almost like...
495
00:30:50,181 --> 00:30:51,558
"Did I do the right thing?"
496
00:30:54,352 --> 00:30:57,313
Prescription drugs,
at least they know what they're getting.
497
00:30:59,023 --> 00:31:01,442
There was unfamiliarity
with the drug
498
00:31:01,526 --> 00:31:03,862
and our overdose episodes
just went through the roof.
499
00:31:05,196 --> 00:31:06,556
Get him on the ground.
500
00:31:06,614 --> 00:31:07,824
It was alarming.
501
00:31:07,907 --> 00:31:09,325
It was... It was a shock.
502
00:31:09,409 --> 00:31:10,952
Come on, buddy. Come on.
503
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,079
We're losing more people
every year.
504
00:31:13,788 --> 00:31:14,789
Jay, wake up.
505
00:31:15,331 --> 00:31:16,666
Drugs come in seasons.
506
00:31:17,792 --> 00:31:20,378
First, it was OxyContin season.
507
00:31:21,212 --> 00:31:22,797
Heroin season.
508
00:31:22,881 --> 00:31:25,800
And now we have fentanyl season.
509
00:31:27,927 --> 00:31:32,849
Fentanyl is 50 to 100 times
more potent than heroin or morphine
510
00:31:32,932 --> 00:31:34,601
and so extremely lethal.
511
00:31:35,643 --> 00:31:37,163
People think they're getting one thing
512
00:31:37,228 --> 00:31:40,857
and they're actually getting a mixture
of that drug and fentanyl.
513
00:31:42,650 --> 00:31:46,863
Which means that the heroin on the street
is much more potent than it had been.
514
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,075
Here in St. Bernard Parish,
515
00:31:51,159 --> 00:31:55,580
every one of us knows someone
who's lost a child or a relative
516
00:31:55,663 --> 00:31:58,583
to addiction of prescription opioids
and heroin.
517
00:31:59,667 --> 00:32:02,420
We have innocent Americans
who have become addicted
518
00:32:02,503 --> 00:32:05,089
to a drug that was designed
to relieve them of pain.
519
00:32:05,882 --> 00:32:08,301
This was so devastating
in St. Bernard Parish.
520
00:32:08,384 --> 00:32:11,137
It makes me think
of another addictive drug.
521
00:32:11,888 --> 00:32:13,097
Tobacco.
522
00:32:14,849 --> 00:32:17,685
During the national litigation
against the cigarette industry,
523
00:32:17,769 --> 00:32:19,938
I was representing St. Bernard Parish,
524
00:32:20,021 --> 00:32:21,898
to investigate and eventually prosecute
525
00:32:21,981 --> 00:32:25,693
the tobacco industry
for addicting smokers and causing death.
526
00:32:27,195 --> 00:32:31,157
The tobacco industry had denied
the addictive properties of cigarettes
527
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,619
and hired doctors to teach the public
528
00:32:34,702 --> 00:32:36,704
that cigarette smoking
was really a choice.
529
00:32:37,205 --> 00:32:39,749
That it was a matter of free will
and it was not addictive.
530
00:32:39,832 --> 00:32:42,835
Let me ask you first,
and I'd like to just go down the row,
531
00:32:42,919 --> 00:32:47,423
uh, whether each of you believes
that nicotine is not addictive?
532
00:32:47,507 --> 00:32:50,927
When the chief executive officers
of the major tobacco companies
533
00:32:51,010 --> 00:32:52,261
stood and raised their hands...
534
00:32:52,345 --> 00:32:54,514
I believe nicotine is not addictive, yes.
535
00:32:55,515 --> 00:32:57,100
I believe nicotine is not addictive.
536
00:32:58,893 --> 00:33:00,979
I believe that nicotine is not addictive.
537
00:33:02,522 --> 00:33:04,899
I believe that nicotine is not addictive.
538
00:33:05,733 --> 00:33:08,236
When we discovered in litigation later,
539
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:12,115
every one of them had tremendous amounts
of information in-house
540
00:33:12,615 --> 00:33:14,909
that proved that the drug was addictive
541
00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:18,538
and that many of them were engineering
their product to make it more addictive.
542
00:33:21,165 --> 00:33:23,209
The same thing happened
in medicine.
543
00:33:24,043 --> 00:33:27,213
That's essentially what Purdue did
with OxyContin.
544
00:33:28,047 --> 00:33:30,383
OxyContin, from a molecular level,
545
00:33:30,550 --> 00:33:33,469
is pretty much identical to heroin
546
00:33:33,553 --> 00:33:35,680
or any other opioid
you can get on the street.
547
00:33:35,763 --> 00:33:38,641
You know, Purdue Pharma, they knew that.
548
00:33:39,183 --> 00:33:40,852
And they just didn't care.
549
00:33:42,061 --> 00:33:44,355
None of the people working for Purdue,
550
00:33:44,439 --> 00:33:48,234
from the very top people,
551
00:33:48,317 --> 00:33:49,736
all the way down to...
552
00:33:50,445 --> 00:33:53,239
little territory reps like myself.
553
00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:55,116
Nobody was dumb.
554
00:33:56,492 --> 00:33:57,577
I'm not dumb.
555
00:33:58,369 --> 00:34:00,621
Uh, the people above me weren't dumb.
556
00:34:01,414 --> 00:34:04,208
The people above them weren't dumb.
557
00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:09,005
All the way into Connecticut,
nobody's dumb.
558
00:34:10,423 --> 00:34:11,799
But we all acted dumb.
559
00:34:15,636 --> 00:34:18,806
And opioid addiction
spread all across the country.
560
00:34:21,434 --> 00:34:24,687
Purdue Pharma set the stage
for this to happen.
561
00:34:25,855 --> 00:34:27,899
They made opioids acceptable
562
00:34:28,357 --> 00:34:30,026
to a whole bunch more people.
563
00:34:34,113 --> 00:34:36,115
The wake of destruction
564
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:40,078
that this one company leaves behind them
is extraordinary.
565
00:34:40,161 --> 00:34:42,001
I don't know
how they can live with themselves.
566
00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:43,748
This is corporate crime.
567
00:34:43,831 --> 00:34:46,125
This is big business America.
568
00:34:48,961 --> 00:34:51,756
Today, Purdue Pharma
is facing a reckoning.
569
00:34:53,925 --> 00:34:56,469
Cases were beginning to be filed
all over the country.
570
00:34:56,969 --> 00:34:59,555
It'll be a titanic confrontation.
571
00:35:00,306 --> 00:35:03,017
DeKalb County is joining
a growing number of local governments
572
00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:04,519
suing opioid manufacturers.
573
00:35:04,602 --> 00:35:07,230
Florida, heading to court
today to take on
574
00:35:07,313 --> 00:35:08,773
opioid drug makers and distributors.
575
00:35:08,856 --> 00:35:11,025
It is a new day
in Oklahoma
576
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:14,237
in our battle against the opioid epidemic.
577
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,364
In Michigan,
over 1,600 people
578
00:35:16,447 --> 00:35:18,866
died of opioid overdoses last year.
579
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:21,619
One thousand three hundred
and seventy-five Texans died.
580
00:35:21,994 --> 00:35:24,497
Opioid addiction is a public health menace
581
00:35:24,580 --> 00:35:25,665
to South Carolina.
582
00:35:25,748 --> 00:35:27,625
The gross misconduct enabled
583
00:35:27,708 --> 00:35:29,043
countless New Yorkers
584
00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:33,256
to obtain prescriptions
that were not medically necessary.
585
00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:35,299
Their strategy was simple.
586
00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:39,804
The more drugs they sold,
the more money they made.
587
00:35:40,638 --> 00:35:44,267
Nearly 2,000 lawsuits
have been filed against Purdue Pharma.
588
00:35:45,768 --> 00:35:47,770
I'm one of the senior lawyers involved
589
00:35:47,854 --> 00:35:51,566
in representing most of the local
governments in south Louisiana,
590
00:35:51,649 --> 00:35:52,984
including St. Bernard,
591
00:35:53,067 --> 00:35:54,861
against the opioid industry.
592
00:35:56,195 --> 00:35:58,656
After this tremendous journey
that I've been on...
593
00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:01,159
I've become aware
594
00:36:01,242 --> 00:36:03,911
that Walter Leger,
my good high school buddy, okay,
595
00:36:03,995 --> 00:36:08,541
is... is the attorney
that's representing St. Bernard Parish.
596
00:36:08,916 --> 00:36:10,918
And it relieved my burden.
597
00:36:11,002 --> 00:36:14,380
I finally had somebody
that could make something happen.
598
00:36:15,798 --> 00:36:18,259
Walter was a guy
that could make these guys pay.
599
00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:23,055
But how do you deal with people
that have more money
600
00:36:23,139 --> 00:36:26,559
than the United States Department
of Justice has to fight this issue?
601
00:36:31,689 --> 00:36:33,941
The Sackler family,
which is the family
602
00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:36,068
behind Purdue Pharmaceuticals,
603
00:36:36,652 --> 00:36:38,321
is worth $13 billion dollars,
604
00:36:38,404 --> 00:36:41,574
and they essentially made that money
on the backs of OxyContin.
605
00:36:43,034 --> 00:36:47,121
And they have been able to evade
any kind of personal responsibility
606
00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:49,498
for the opioid epidemic until now.
607
00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:52,251
For the first time, the Sacklers
608
00:36:52,335 --> 00:36:54,712
have been named in multiple lawsuits.
609
00:36:55,296 --> 00:36:57,016
Today,
the Attorney General of Massachusetts
610
00:36:57,048 --> 00:37:00,343
pushed for the release of more documents
from Purdue Pharma.
611
00:37:00,927 --> 00:37:02,845
Newly-obtained emails
and memos
612
00:37:02,929 --> 00:37:04,555
from then-president Richard Sackler,
613
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:06,307
writing in a confidential email,
614
00:37:06,891 --> 00:37:09,894
"We have to hammer on the abusers
in every way possible."
615
00:37:11,646 --> 00:37:13,606
What these lawsuits have meant
616
00:37:13,689 --> 00:37:16,525
is that we've had access
to these private emails,
617
00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:18,527
showing that the Sackler family
618
00:37:18,611 --> 00:37:21,864
was totally and completely in it
for the money.
619
00:37:24,992 --> 00:37:28,287
It's not about helping people,
whatever they might say to the contrary.
620
00:37:29,038 --> 00:37:31,398
A new report
based on secret parts of a lawsuit
621
00:37:31,457 --> 00:37:33,125
filed by the State of Massachusetts
622
00:37:33,209 --> 00:37:34,377
claims the drug company
623
00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:37,046
considered expanding
into addiction treatment.
624
00:37:41,342 --> 00:37:43,261
Even more egregiously,
625
00:37:43,344 --> 00:37:46,597
the Sacklers decided to get into
the addiction treatment business.
626
00:37:47,431 --> 00:37:49,058
When they were promoting OxyContin,
627
00:37:49,141 --> 00:37:51,686
they would repeatedly say
that addiction and pain
628
00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:53,688
have nothing to do with each other.
629
00:37:53,896 --> 00:37:56,124
Then when they got into the addiction
treatment business,
630
00:37:56,148 --> 00:38:00,152
they said, "Addiction and pain
are inextricably intertwined."
631
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,450
Purdue trying to get into
the treatment business?
632
00:38:07,743 --> 00:38:08,828
Didn't make sense.
633
00:38:09,412 --> 00:38:10,621
Right? There again...
634
00:38:11,122 --> 00:38:12,122
ding!
635
00:38:13,499 --> 00:38:14,583
Red flag.
636
00:38:19,422 --> 00:38:20,662
Sitting here today...
637
00:38:21,215 --> 00:38:23,426
after all you've come to learn
as a witness...
638
00:38:23,926 --> 00:38:27,763
do you believe Purdue's conduct
in marketing and promoting OxyContin
639
00:38:27,847 --> 00:38:31,851
caused any of the prescription drug
addiction problems...
640
00:38:32,476 --> 00:38:34,228
now plaguing the commonwealth?
641
00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:35,438
I don't believe so.
642
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:37,390
Sitting here today,
643
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,191
after all you've come to learn
as a witness,
644
00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:40,735
do you believe that Purdue's conduct
645
00:38:40,818 --> 00:38:44,530
has led to an excessive
or unnecessary amount of opioids
646
00:38:44,613 --> 00:38:46,741
being located throughout the commonwealth?
647
00:38:49,535 --> 00:38:50,619
I don't believe so.
648
00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:56,184
Do you believe
that any of Purdue's conduct
649
00:38:56,208 --> 00:39:00,588
has led to an increase
in people being addicted?
650
00:39:03,674 --> 00:39:04,674
No.
651
00:40:13,619 --> 00:40:15,037
I drive a cab now.
652
00:40:16,831 --> 00:40:18,082
I see people, uh...
653
00:40:18,582 --> 00:40:20,835
You know, I know I'm dropping 'em off
in the 9th Ward.
654
00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:23,295
I know what's going on.
I know what's happening.
655
00:40:24,463 --> 00:40:27,508
If you're coming here,
you're only coming here for one reason.
656
00:40:28,884 --> 00:40:31,345
And one after the other,
like a McDonald's drive-thru,
657
00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:33,097
they'll... they'll score their dope.
658
00:40:35,474 --> 00:40:37,594
You know, that's one of the reasons
why I carry Narcan
659
00:40:37,643 --> 00:40:39,103
in my glove box.
660
00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:42,373
You never know who you're gonna pick up
661
00:40:42,398 --> 00:40:43,691
or when you're gonna need it.
662
00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:51,740
Crack destroyed New Orleans in the '80s.
663
00:40:52,283 --> 00:40:54,577
But with the opioid epidemic...
664
00:40:55,244 --> 00:40:57,580
I see total destruction.
665
00:40:58,831 --> 00:41:00,875
There's no end to the damage
666
00:41:00,958 --> 00:41:03,711
this opioid situation has caused.
667
00:41:07,506 --> 00:41:09,341
The addiction
just doesn't discriminate.
668
00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:12,845
It doesn't matter who you are,
how much money you have,
669
00:41:12,928 --> 00:41:14,472
what color your skin is.
670
00:41:14,805 --> 00:41:15,805
Addiction,
671
00:41:16,182 --> 00:41:17,975
it just doesn't discriminate.
672
00:41:22,146 --> 00:41:24,315
Is there some way in the future
673
00:41:24,398 --> 00:41:27,276
that we can stop people from having pain?
674
00:41:28,611 --> 00:41:30,654
I don't know what the answer is.
675
00:41:30,738 --> 00:41:32,364
But we're in a hell of a pickle.
676
00:41:33,616 --> 00:41:35,201
This is a hell of a mess.
677
00:41:41,916 --> 00:41:46,170
When I see young lives destroyed
by this disease,
678
00:41:46,253 --> 00:41:47,338
you know, I wonder...
679
00:41:49,632 --> 00:41:50,632
where do I fit?
680
00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:57,139
I do believe that everybody...
681
00:41:57,723 --> 00:41:59,850
not just me as a sales rep,
682
00:42:00,309 --> 00:42:01,519
not just Purdue...
683
00:42:02,436 --> 00:42:03,521
but doctors...
684
00:42:05,064 --> 00:42:06,064
the FDA...
685
00:42:07,441 --> 00:42:09,401
Congress, right?
686
00:42:11,654 --> 00:42:13,447
Everybody's got a bit of blood.
687
00:42:14,156 --> 00:42:15,741
We've all got skin in the game.
688
00:42:24,833 --> 00:42:28,379
Danny was on the front line
in terms of the opioid epidemic.
689
00:42:31,131 --> 00:42:34,051
As we look back at what Dan went through,
690
00:42:34,134 --> 00:42:36,178
and what he was recognizing,
what he was saying,
691
00:42:36,262 --> 00:42:40,849
uh, contributes to our understanding
of the opioid crisis
692
00:42:40,933 --> 00:42:42,293
and hopefully how to deal with it.
693
00:42:42,351 --> 00:42:45,396
Uh, not just how to litigate it,
but how to solve it.
694
00:42:47,064 --> 00:42:49,144
There may not be
a more important case than this one.
695
00:42:49,441 --> 00:42:51,527
And your dedication
could be incredibly helpful.
696
00:42:52,528 --> 00:42:54,780
This is a copy of the lawsuit
that was filed here
697
00:42:54,863 --> 00:42:56,740
- in St. Bernard Parish.
- Right.
698
00:42:57,408 --> 00:43:01,161
It's like my crazy dream
of Tunnel of Hope...
699
00:43:01,662 --> 00:43:04,748
that I could maybe make a difference
or... or be a part of...
700
00:43:05,833 --> 00:43:07,418
something that can make a difference...
701
00:43:09,336 --> 00:43:11,088
may very well become a reality.
702
00:43:46,540 --> 00:43:47,916
What do you say, Danny boy?
703
00:43:48,542 --> 00:43:49,542
Decent job?
704
00:43:56,008 --> 00:43:58,469
Dan's life will never be the same.
705
00:43:59,136 --> 00:44:02,556
No Christmas, no Thanksgiving,
no birthday,
706
00:44:03,098 --> 00:44:06,226
no anything will ever be the same.
707
00:44:06,310 --> 00:44:08,354
He will make the best of where he is,
708
00:44:08,937 --> 00:44:12,191
but he will always have his son
in his mind and his heart,
709
00:44:12,274 --> 00:44:13,567
and it will never go away.
710
00:44:13,651 --> 00:44:15,819
And that's the same for his entire family.
711
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:21,492
It's alright, baby. He's with us.
712
00:44:21,575 --> 00:44:24,203
He's with us
and we're gonna see him again, okay?
713
00:44:28,916 --> 00:44:30,250
He is burdened
714
00:44:30,334 --> 00:44:32,044
with the type of grief and loss
715
00:44:32,127 --> 00:44:34,338
that we all hope
we never have to go through.
716
00:44:35,255 --> 00:44:37,966
But as a result of his attention
717
00:44:38,050 --> 00:44:40,052
being called to this enormous problem...
718
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,054
he saved a lot of lives
719
00:44:42,137 --> 00:44:44,264
and he can always
give his son credit for that.
720
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,562
Right now, God, I have to pause.
721
00:44:51,605 --> 00:44:54,441
I've got things in the real world
I have to keep up with.
722
00:45:07,746 --> 00:45:09,248
This is a poem he wrote.
723
00:45:09,832 --> 00:45:11,875
"Reflections upon life seem like a dream.
724
00:45:14,044 --> 00:45:16,630
Although very real in the eyes
of the beholder...
725
00:45:17,631 --> 00:45:19,967
the time will come
when his life is done...
726
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,179
and he will live
in the distant dreams of everyone.
727
00:45:27,683 --> 00:45:29,476
Living the dream, living life...
728
00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:31,645
both the same.
729
00:45:32,813 --> 00:45:34,106
Both two different portraits
730
00:45:34,189 --> 00:45:35,524
in two different frames."
731
00:45:39,445 --> 00:45:42,281
That was good.
732
00:45:47,202 --> 00:45:49,079
Here, give me that.
733
00:45:49,329 --> 00:45:50,247
I don't care.
734
00:45:50,330 --> 00:45:51,498
It's got mascara on it.
735
00:45:58,255 --> 00:46:00,716
Everything I did, I did for Danny.
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