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[♪]

MAN: He looked like
a very passive type person,

like living in
his own world.

[♪]

He had long hair.
He had a nickname.

People said, they used
to call him Jesus Christ.

[♪]

There had to be
something wrong with him

but I never thought
he would resort

to that kind of violence,
this individual.

And then that night to
see him do what he did,

it just kind of
blew me away.

I just couldn't
believe it.

I said I never thought
a person like that

could do a thing like this.

[♪]

The police got a call at
approximately 7:45 p.m.

indicating that a
woman was being stabbed

in front of Wal-Mart
at 950 Brookdale Avenue.

[♪]

His victim was a
22-year-old female

who was a resident of
the city of Cornwall.

She was a young lady

who was about to get married
in the very near future.

MAN: We knew it was a complete
random act of violence.

It was just she was
not known to him,

he had never seen her before.

The devil told
him to stab...

...the prettiest
girl that he seen.

[♪]

[sirens]

[♪]

When we walked in
she was covered with-

all I remember was she was
covered with a white sheet

that was completely soaked

in the reddest, reddest colour
of blood that I've ever seen.

WOMAN: We didn't know how many
times she had been stabbed. No.

INTERVIEWER:
So when you

arrived at the
hospital initially

you didn't know if she
was going to live or die?

No, no.That's right.

Sean Clifton was
someone who was known

to almost all police officers
because of his contact

that we've had with
him in the community.

And what I mean by that is
that often we would find him

acting in a bizarre
manner in a public place.

Routinely we'd
come across him

and we'd see he was
in a distorted state

or a delusional state
but not in a violent manner.

But this particular event

was a total surprise.

This is not something I would
have predicted from him.

[loud siren]

[♪]

NOELLA BOUVIER: And
I had maybe a minute

with my daughter,
with Julie.

I took my two hands,

that's about the only
place I could touch her.

I put my two hands
under Julie's head

and I kissed her.

And, uh...

I went into her ear and
I says, "Mom and Dad's here.

You're going in surgery,
you're going to be alright."

The strength I felt,
it's unbelievable.

And all she did was a little
nod saying she understood.

So I think she was
conscious, in pain but -

and I pulled my hands,
walked out of the room

and I lost it.

[Detective speaking]

DET. WHITE:
Within two hours

of the incident
occurring at Wal-Mart

I had occasion to
interview Sean Clifton

in an attempt to
try and understand

how such a horrific
event could occur.

NOELLA BOUVIER: When
they started the surgery,

the nurses kept -

one nurse kept coming
out and telling us,

Okay, so far so good.

And then they come out
and a lung had collapsed.

Then they came out and said
we had to put a chest tube in.

Like it kept getting
worse and worse.

[door opening]

It's, it's devastating.

You feel so helpless,
you know.

The--one of the
memories that I...

[chuckles]
I, I...

I'll be back.

DET. WHITE: When the
police arrived on scene,

the perpetrator,
Sean Clifton in this case,

was still there, he was
still standing there.

He wasn't trying
to avoid detection

or flee from the police,
he was just standing there.

And what was
interesting was the fact

that when the officers
approached him

he was like in a trance,
he was just staring.

DET. WHITE:
The psychiatrist in the case

felt that he did not have

the operating mind in
order to form mens rea,

in other words intentional
will to commit a crime.

And as a result he was sent

to a forensic
psychiatric facility,

the Brockville
Mental Health Centre.

[♪]

MAN: This is not like
a psychiatric unit

at a general hospital

where you would
take your mother.

The Brockville
Mental Health Centre

is strictly a forensic
psychiatry unit, which means

every client here has some
sort of criminal charge.

[indistinct conversation]

[♪]

P.A. VOICE: Please come to
the med room for your meds,

meds at the medicine room.

MAN: Look, I
have rights, okay?

I haven't seen a lawyer,
my lawyer, okay?

I'm beaten the shit
out of by the cops

and I don't need
my--anything else.

INTERVIEWER: How many
of the patients here

are capable of
serious violence?

WOMAN:
Absolutely all of them.

MAN:
Every one.

WOMAN: Every single one,
a potential for violence

is what got them here
in the first place,

not just because they
were schizophrenic,

because they were violent.

[♪]

[sound of running water]

Could transfer
this person down.

WOMAN:
B3 South?

B3 South.

Now, who is
anyone going...

DR. AHMED:
Mr. Clifton

is one of the most
ill patients

that I have seen
in my career.

His case is complex
in the sense that

he has a dual diagnosis:

obsessive/compulsive
disorder and schizophrenia.

WOMAN: When there is a crime
committed that is as heinous,

as violent as the one
that Sean committed,

We use initially
anti-psychotic medications

to treat the agitation,
aggression, the delusions,

the disconnect
with reality.

And there is
a dramatic change.

[♪]

INTERVIEWER: What was
Sean's demeanour like?

WOMAN:
Flat.

MAN:
Almost robotic.

WOMAN:
Yeah, yeah.

Think of yourself as
having a mannequin

and there's just
this stone...

...response.

There is no affect, there is
no raising of the eyebrows,

sparkling of the eye,
there's just nothing.

He was very seclusive
when he came in,

he didn't interact
with anyone

that he didn't
absolutely have to.

He would sit
in a common area

but not where other
people are sitting.

MAN: Sean was so tormented
and preoccupied

with what was going
on in his mind

that the world outside
of his mind didn't exist.

And he didn't care about it
because he was so bombarded

with thoughts and
impulses and rituals that -

you know, if you spoke to
him he'd look right at you

but he's not hearing you
because he is inside his mind.

DeCOU: Well of course
with the schizophrenia

he was very, very paranoid.

But the most striking thing
about him at that time

was his obsessive
compulsive disorder.

In my years here

he had the worst case of
obsessive compulsive disorder

that I have
ever witnessed.

He had several rituals, though
the one that sticks most

in my mind would
be at meal times.

Sean would have
put that tray back,

and then he would
have to adjust it

five or ten
or fifteen times.

But he would not be able
to complete his meal

and leave the dining area

until that ritual
had been completed.

VALLENTGOED: If you disturbed
him in a conversation,

if you tried to
interject your opinion

or get him to elaborate,

he would stop
what he was saying

and start from
the beginning again.

DeCOU: Yes, at a
certain time, yes,

he was one of the illest
individuals we've had through.

[♪]

I have six
stab wounds so -

some in the hands,
some in the back, the leg.

I had two different
surgeries.

I have a laparotomy
and a thoracotomy.

So a lot of incisions
under the left breast

and I had another
one in my stomach

to open up to make
sure that there was

no serious wounds,
puncture wounds.

I remember feeling like I was
never going to get better,

you know, so much pain
and just, you know,

the pain takes over
and you're not sleeping

and you just feel
like, you know,

am I ever going to get
back to that same person?

You know, I was always
a bubbly outgoing person,

I find it kind of
brought me down

and I was a little
bit more angry.

Just the little
things I couldn't do.

NOELLA: Julie, while
she was recovering,

her plan, of course,
her upcoming marriage,

but her fear was of not
being able to have children.

She really wanted children.

Yeah, that really
bothered her for awhile.

Yeah, and of course

now she's got three beautiful,
beautiful children.

[♪]

I had a lot of help.

My, my family was there for me.

[quietly]
Sorry...

I'm lucky that I
had them with me,

you know,
through everything.

[seagulls crying]

[♪]

WHALEN: For Sean to make
any sort of changes

and break out of those rituals
and those obsessive thoughts

is that Sean really
had to do the work.

There's medication
that would help him

for the thoughts to kind of,
the intensity to decrease.

But it was still up to Sean

to break those
patterns of behaviour.

[indistinct conversations]

[beeping]

Go ahead.Alright.

[door buzzes]

SEAN: I got to the end of my
rope and confronted my fears.

I had a lot of irrational fears.

Things I was afraid of happening
if I didn't do the rituals.

Like from the
start of this thing

I wondered why am I
fearing this, you know?

Like why do I have to
do this stupid nonsense?

DeCOU: Some fellows
have a specific horror

that they're trying to avoid
by going through these rituals.

You know, something bad
would happen to my sister

or my neighbour or my -
you know,

that kind of thing where
it would be a specific

"I'm going through this to
avoid them coming to harm."

Oh I was afraid of getting
illness, me getting sick

or something happening
to someone in my family

or something
like that.

Some kind of disaster
like that.

I felt awful like
from the start

of this whole obsessive
compulsive disorder thing.

And doing the rituals,
you know,

trying to get
to the bus stop

and not being able
to step off the curb

and just cross the
street and everything.

From the start I was like
fed up and tired of it.

But eventually,
bit by bit,

I started to just
be a little bold.

[clock ticking]

SEAN: I had to watch
the seconds on the clock

for 10 or 15, 20 minutes

before I could leave the
TV room and stuff like that.

[ticking]

I think I just
got so frustrated

and so tired and fed up

I just found the strength
to just kind of gently,

carefully leave
the TV watching room.

[♪]

Almost every day I got
a little more frustrated

and fed up
and started to just -

I guess I still felt afraid
but I went ahead

and stepped on cigarette
butts on the sidewalk

and all those things
I was afraid to do

for four or five years.

He's worked very
hard himself.Yes, yeah.

There has been

an amazing transformation
in the gentleman.

All set?

Okay?
Have a good day.

You too, Mike.No problem.

INTERVIEWER:
Could you see his face?

Yes.

I remember what
he looks like.

And I remember after
going to the hearing

and I think that
was the hearing

to see if he was
stable or not,

and I think that was
my first time, you know,

seeing him after, and
that was my last time

because I found it
too hard, too difficult

to especially be in
the same room with him.

Because you don't know what
they're thinking, you know?

I always have that
feeling that, you know,

is he going to
attack me, you know?

[sigh]

JULIE: After the court
hearing, he was charged

with not criminally
responsible.

He ended up going
to Brockville,

and I felt

in me like,
you know, safe now.

Like he's going to
be there, in my mind,

for a very long time.

And he'll be taking
his medication.

And I guess I just
felt like all,

I never really
thought of later,

what's going
to happen later.

[♪]

INTERVIEWER: Is it very common
for patients like Sean Clifton

who committed murder,
or attempted murder,

or very serious violence,

to be released
into the community?

That's the mandate.

That's what
we're told to do.

That's what our job is.

Regardless of the
horrific nature or not,

our job is to
rehabilitate them.

Whether it's a shoplifter

or he's charged with
two counts of murder.

[♪]

Nobody ever really
just goes.

There'll be
strings attached.

With Sean, he did earn the
right to re-enter the community

by going through many,
many, many stages

a little bit at a time.

He would have started out

being confined entirely.

He would not have been
allowed off the ward at all.

The next stage would be
he would be allowed out

on the grounds for fifteen
minutes at a time,

escorted by two staff.

[door buzzes]

And then we progress
from there

to he can go out
for fifteen minutes

three times a day by himself.

But it's very
tightly-controlled

and managed reintegration.

[buzzing]

He had to prove
to the entire team

that his risk
to the community

was basically no more
than anyone else's risk.

With Sean that
took eight years.

[♪]

INTERVIEWER: Do you remember
when you first heard

that he might
be coming out?

That they were allowing
him some freedom

to go into the community?

Were you upset?Yes, I was upset.

I guess all the fear
comes back, you know.

Who's going to ensure that
he's taking his medication?

Who's going to make sure

that he doesn't come
back to Cornwall?

Because that would devastate me

if I happened to be walking
by and saw him, you know?

INTERVIEWER: You come out
and you're rooming

with another
forensic patient.

Is it in your mind
that, you know, gee,

what happens if he reoffends or
if he stops taking his meds?

Is this something that
you gave some thought to?

Yeah.

Yeah, it's a bit of a fear
but I'm constantly trying

to remain friends
with Sean

so that that doesn't
happen, it doesn't....

Try to solve the problem
before it becomes a problem.

We met in the hospital.

Took us through a
list of stuff that,

like rules for
the apartment.

So that we knew
what was going on.

INTERVIEWER:
What kind of rules?

WILL: I think it was no
violence towards each other.

That was my,
my main one anyways.

We try to stay friends
a lot and work together.

We watch TV and stuff
like that together

and we try to
stay friends.

When are the folks
coming to town again?

Probably on the weekend.

Oh yeah.

They going to bring
us something to eat?

Uh-huh.

They brought us ham this time,
there's ham in the fridge.

Yeah, I saw that.

There's a bottle of gravy
in there, isn't there?

Oh, that's baked beans.

My mother made some
baked beans. Yeah.

From scratch?Yeah.

I don't know how
she makes them.

[chatter from television]

WILL: Like I said, we just
try to keep it friends.

I try not to piss him off
so that, you know,

we're not really
endangering each other

of any of the violent offences
that we were both there for.

People think I'm a good fighter,
I think, so that's good.

I'm a martial artist, I've been
in close to a hundred fights.

I was kind of a
smaller guy in school

so I had a few guys
picking on me.

So I started studying kind
of beating up tougher guys,

you know, guys that would
think that they could

be aggressive with me.

I did strike a few of the cops

and that got me into
some hot water as well.

INTERVIEWER:
Did you use

any of those techniques
that we just saw?
Yes.Ouch.

Yeah.

I got a reputation,
nobody wanted to mess with me.

Yeah.

Did you have to beat
up a few people first

to get the message
out there?

Uh, yeah, I did, I did.

WOMAN:
Will has no insight,

if I can say that,
into his mental disorder.

He believes totally
and completely

that he does not have
a mental illness.

I'm one of the forensic
outreach nurses

here at the Brockville
Mental Health Centre.

When an individual goes
out into the community,

we want to keep everybody
safe when they're out there,

so that basically is
our responsibility,

to maintain the safety
of the community.

We have to be
in a situation

where it's a bit
of a policing role.

They can be very paranoid
when we go to see them

because they feel that perhaps

we might be taking them
back to the hospital.[doorbell]

Hi, Will, how are you doing?Hello, Janet.

His delusions and
the involvement

that he had with the police,

he truly does believe

that the police
were out to get him

and you would not be able
to convince him otherwise.

Was there concerns about
the police in Gananoque?

What were they-

Uh, yeah, I feel like they
had a vendetta against me.

Right, mmhm.

Because I spoke out against
them in previous years.

And so there was a bit
of a vendetta there.

So they picked me up
on assault charges

but I was hitting, I hit
the man in self-defence.

Okay.

JANET: Will has
a delusional disorder
as opposed to schizophrenia.

He has the paranoid beliefs,

but as far as his personality
goes, it remains the same.

So are you gonna
be able to do that?

Intellectually he's quite
a bright individual

and with medications
and that sort of thing

his delusions
can be controlled.

I found myself
harassed by the police.

They were giving me seatbelt
fines and stuff like that.

Oh were they?Yeah.

Okay, so do you, do you think
every time you went out

into the community
they were,

like they knew where you were
and they were following you?

At times, yes.At times, okay.

I had to watch what I was
driving and where I was going.

I wonder why that was,
do you know?

Um, it's kind
of complicated.

Okay.

Hi, is it Dixon?

It is.Dixon, I'm Sean.

Hi, Sean, nice to meet you.Pleased to meet you.

I'm the meeter/greeter
for the car wash these days.

Okay.

Uh, you can take a seat
in the house, if you want.

We haven't got any reading
material right now

like they were planning on,

but I can make you a pot
of coffee if you want, or-

I'm actually being picked up
but thanks for that.

Great, thanks.Alright.

SEAN: I offered
to make coffee

for the guys working
in the car wash.

Jim?Yeah?

You want a coffee?No thanks.

Alright.

INTERVIEWER:
So you don't get involved

in actually washing
of the cars?

No, I specifically
requested

to stay away from
that kind of thing.

How come?

Ah, it's just I get tired.

And, uh...

Too much bending,
it just tires me right out.

I wouldn't be able to
do it two days in a row.

My back'd hurt
and things like that.

I need a desk job.

I might as well
get comfortable.

DR. AHMED: And generally
since the last time we met

how's your mood been?

Um, good.
It's better.

I kind of like my
job at the car wash.

Okay.

Um, gives me a reason
to get up in the morning

and get out of bed.Yeah, yeah?

[clock ticking]

[loud thumping]

[loud thumping]

JANET: I was there
at a home visit

and he decided that
he would practice

some of his martial arts
skills on a punching bag.

As he got into that
exhibit more and more,

it became quite evident

that there was a lot
of anger in Will.

He's a very strong individual,
and I actually was terrified.

[thumping]

Jab.

The police have
always been something

that Will has been
quite paranoid about.

Now the problem
with the police is

is that they keep
calling this assault.

But they're not investigating
what happened before that

to anger me to
take those actions.

INTERVIEWER: You feel
it was self-defence?

Yeah, I feel it was
self def--self-defence.

JANET: I was actually
quite terrified for him.

Will's offences were
relatively minor assaults.

So he's far more a danger to
himself than he is to others.

If he felt he had to defend
himself with the police,

if he went to assault them
or threaten them at all,

he would be in
danger because

the police
carry weapons.

And there may be some
dire consequences

come out of that kind
of activity with Will.

[♪]

SEAN: This is my anti-
psychotic medication.

It's called Olanzepine.

And it's the only thing

standing between my sanity
and complete madness.

INTERVIEWER: If he stopped
taking his medication,

how long might it take

for him to relapse
into a psychotic state?

JANET: Being generous
I'd say about two weeks.

And that's being generous.

It probably would be
shorter than that,

but in two weeks' time
I believe that he probably

could become quite psychotic.

INTERVIEWER:
And potentially dangerous.

JANET:
Potentially dangerous.

INTERVIEWER: What would
you like to see happen

to Sean Clifton?

That there's a law passed
that if ever he is free,

that he has to be subject to
take medication regularly.

Regular blood tests
to ensure that he is,

because who says he
won't do it again?

Just knowing that
he's kind of free.

He's still monitored

but not as much as
being in the hospital.

So it's scary to think that,
you know, he's out and about.

I was afraid, I was
afraid for myself

and I always think
that everybody says,

"Oh, it was just a
random, you know,

you were just there at the wrong
place, at the wrong time."

But I guess I just don't
understand what they're thinking

and could he come back,
could he be angry at me?

Doesn't have to be
for a logical reason,

just maybe being that he was,
you know, sent there,

maybe he holds grudges,
I don't...

[indistinct chatter]

There are so many people
with schizophrenia,

bipolar disorder, who carry
on their day-to-day life

without necessarily
committing violence.

Mental illness is just
one of the factors

that we can manage
successfully.

In two weeks I have a hearing
with the Ontario Review Board.

Um...

It's kind of like a parole
hearing for a mental patient.

This year I'm sort of
hoping for a step forward

and receive a
conditional discharge.

That means there's less control
over my personal life.

DR. AHMED:
Essentially, you know

that one of the concerns
the review board has

and that we all have, and
of course you do have that,

is that we want
you to be stable.

We don't want what
happened to repeat itself.

Right.

Any unusual experiences at all?

Um, none.

Voices?No.

Or this concern that you
may be followed by people?

No, nothing
like that, no.Okay.

Tell me, have you been taking
your medication regularly?

Oh yeah.

There is no cure for
paranoid schizophrenia.

This is a lifelong process

that Sean has to go through

to maintain his stability
and his daily functioning.

It's not nice to
have to take pills.

I'm hoping there'll
be a day in the future

when I won't need it
but the doctor I think

[clears throat]
would tell me

that I'll need it for
the rest of my life.

INTERVIEWER:
How do you feel about that?

Well...

I guess I'll have
to cooperate.

They'll, they'll haul me
into the hospital

if they suspect I'm not
taking my medication.

Um...

INTERVIEWER:
What about if you obtained

an absolute discharge

with no requirements
to take -

Oh, I'll take the pills.

Any other concern,
any other anxiety

with regards to the
Review Board hearing?

Oh just the usual
case of nerves.

Yeah.Yeah.

Alright, then.

Keep up the good job.

No drug use, no alcohol,

continue with your medication,

and I wish you well for
tomorrow then at the board.

Okay, Dr. Ahmed.

Okay, thanks a lot.Thank you.

Alright.

[♪]

I'm the father of
the victim in this case

and I attend the Ontario
Review Board hearings annually.

And I was told very early on
that it was important for me

to stay involved
in this process

and I'm very glad I did.

We all know that
if patients like Sean

do not take their meds,

some of them decompensate
rather quickly.

Could be a week,
it could be a month,

it could be two months.

If he's got a complete
discharge and he's in society

and he decides that he
doesn't need his medication,

the same thing that
happened to Julie

could happen to anybody.

And this is my plight.

I don't want this to
happen to anybody else.

NOELLA: I never went
to the hearings.

I had worries,

I feared Sean.

I couldn't bring myself
to face Sean Clifton.

ANDY: Sean is not
able to this day

to come within 250
kilometres of Cornwall.

What if he comes
back here

and comes after her,
you know?

Alright, okay.

So I don't know what is taking
that, the previous hearing...

SEAN: Well the father of the
victim was there every year

except last year and
I think the year before.

He only missed twice.

But this was the first time
I've seen the mother there.

I guess it doesn't
help my arguments

for getting back to being
a free man when they're there.

[♪]

SEAN: Well after the board
they don't just come out

and give you a decision
right there on the spot.

It usually takes
a couple of months.

ANDY:
I asked the board

if I could off the record
have a chat with him.

And I explained to them

that as a Christian
they -

I wouldn't feel
right in my skin

if I didn't do everything
possible to make sure

that they don't go out
and attack your daughter,

your daughter,
your daughter.

SEAN:
Well, my review board

didn't go very well.

Um...

They brought up things
from the long dead past.

Read police reports that
were full of untruths.

Overall they made me sound
like a bloody, a serial killer,

like this is--like I don't
understand anything or, ah...

Like I just don't know how to
act, like I'm not, you know,

like I don't know how to act in
society or something like that.

I wasn't half the madman
they suggested I was.

When the Crown made
his closing arguments,

he portrayed me like twice
the madman I really am.

I'd like to know
where those,

who made those
reports to the police.

Because there were
so many inaccuracies.

I never said the only good
woman is a dead woman,

it's ridiculous,
it was utterly ridiculous,

the kind of things
they said I said.

INTERVIEWER: And
you're not denying

the fact that
the index offence

was an attempted murder?

Uh, I don't know if
I really had intent to kill.

It's like I was just driven
insane from an impulse.

Um...

I don't really know if I
intended to murder anybody.

How would you describe
your mental state?

Uh, I was a mess.

Uh, the day of
the index offence

it had been years and years
of the rituals and, um,

I'd finally made it downtown
and I was very fed up

and frustrated and
not in my right mind.

You're saying you
were not sane.

Yeah, I would say that.

I was not, not playing
with a full deck

at that point.
[chuckles]

INTERVIEWER:
If Sean Clifton

were to obtain
an absolute discharge,

it means that he
would be released

from the hospital
with no controls?

He would be released
with no controls, yes.

He would not be required
to report to anyone?

He would not be required
to report to anyone, yes.

He would not be required
to take his meds?

He would not be forced, if
required means being forced

to take his meds, he would
not be required to do so.

He could get on a bus and
just disappear somewhere?

He could get on the
bus and go anywhere.

Do you think it's
likely that Sean

will eventually obtain
an absolute discharge?

Yes, it's very
possible that some day

Sean will be
discharged absolutely.

I don't have that
much to say.

Not to me you don't.

But you still blame me for
everything that was said.

I blame you, I blame
Mother and I blame April.

April called me a criminal
and she called me a bum.

So after I had read what
April had did to me,

I hit April and then that's
when you jumped in the way

trying to defend April and
I hit you in self-defence.

You attacked me as if I
was going to attack you.

I wasn't, I was going
to stop a fight.

You were going to throw me
physically out the door.

That's not, that's not going
to hit you or anything else.

Well you've got no right
to lay your hands on me.

I do in my house,

I have the right to throw
anybody out that door.

Well you didn't that day.

In my own home I don't
have the right to-

You got no right to
lay your hands on me.

That's called self-defence.

If you lay your hands on me

and I hit you,
it's self-defence.

Not when you're told to leave.

Well, whatever.MOTHER: But wait a minute.

Now you did bring up,
was it rifles or guns?

It was some sort of...

WILL: I told someone
that it was okay for them

to store a bag
in my closet.

And you wouldn't
look in the bag?

I didn't look
in the bag.

I was framed.

WILF: My understanding with
those guns, they were sawed off,

they were going to be
used in an armed robbery-

Did I saw them off?I have no idea, I wasn't there.

No I didn't.

When I'm 15 years old,
yes,

I let someone throw
a bag in my closet

and suddenly I'm a
gun-toting maniac.

But that's the way
the law saw it.

That's the way the law saw
it but they were wrong.

Okay.

[♪]

SEAN: There were a few
things I wanted to do

but I had some plans
before I went insane.

And I'd like to
get back on track.

I had a dictionary,
a pocket Oxford dictionary

that was always by
my side back in Cornwall.

This was before my index
offence and everything.

And used to watch TV with
the dictionary at my side,

used to sleep at night
with it on my nightstand.

And words would
just come to me.

If I didn't know the
exact meaning of a word

I had to look it up.

It was fun, it was a
real love. [chuckles]

When I started to get mentally
ill in about 1993 or so

I gave up on it,
didn't look up anything.

I couldn't care anymore.

Feels like my interests are
coming back a little bit.

Haven't got much proof
of being a real intellectual

but I did have
a desire to be one.

It just popped into my head,
I had to buy a dictionary.

So...

INTERVIEWER: And have you
looked up any words yet?

SEAN:
Oh many,

every day so far.

Every day at least
one or two.

[phone rings]

WILL: There's a
business office

halfway through
the apartment here

and it's a little space,
there's a desk

because I'm an
entrepreneur.

INTERVIEWER: What kind
of an entrepreneur are you?

Well lately I have to admit

that I've been more
on the relaxed side.

Uh, I've kind
of been tied up

with women for the
past few months

and haven't been
able to really decide

on which business
I want to undertake

so I'm still deciding.

You know, like last
year I was thinking

of electric car for a poor man.

Yeah, there's
a need for electric car

for a poor man, yeah.

SEAN: Back in about 1990
when I was half sane

I took a course in the
local community college

and within the program

there was an introductory
to computers course.

And it was very basic,
they started explaining things

right from the start
about, you know,

this is the monitor,
this is the keyboard,

inside the computer
there's a hard drive

and what happens when
you put a floppy disc

into the disc drive.

And then I got sick and
had to forget about school

and computers as well.

After awhile my
curiosity came back.

WHALEN: It took us
several months

to get him to the point
where he'd send an email.

SEAN: I opened an email
account this afternoon...

There it is.

Not one to really go along
with every fad that comes along,

but it's sort of going
to be challenging and, uh,

I'm kind of looking
forward to the challenge

of becoming
computer literate.

It took him several weeks
of thinking about it,

what he was going to write,
exactly how he would write it.

And I realized I had to type
in 1968 instead of just '68.

So I got that, I overcame that.

And then finally it
told me that opened,

I'd opened an email
account for myself.

And then I came into
work a few weeks ago

and there's an email,
Sean Clifton sent me an email.

[♪]

So this is one
song that I wrote.

[♪]

♪ It really bugs me
when I see other guys, ♪

♪ don't treat you
like a piece of meat. ♪

♪ I feel jealous when
guys hit on you. ♪

♪ Can't fight every
guy that you meet. ♪

What if Will snaps and
does something at random?

That has occurred to me.
Uh...

I guess I'll have
to deal with that

when it happens,
if it happens.

He could reoffend and
I could reoffend as well.

Yeah.

I do martial arts
and I, you know,

I've been known to
defend myself, so...

I won't say I keep
an eye on Will

because I'm not his mother
or anything like that, but...

I'm just aware,
keep an eye on Will

the same way I would any
other forensic patient.

After all, that's why we're
ceram-uh, forensic patients.

If I was sleeping and he's
in there for an offence

where he stabbed somebody,

he could stab me
in my sleep.

But I don't think
Sean would.

I don't think Sean's
that kind of character.

♪ [singing Do do-do]

SEAN: I like the quiet.
I like it nice and quiet.

I want my own place.

Will and I are going to
go our separate ways and...

I'll probably run into him
as he gets off the bus

at the hospital and
I'm getting on the bus

after a morning
of work or whatever.

INTERVIEWER:
Was it done in acrimony?

No. No.

Umm...

Now that's a word
I'm going to have to look up.

I think I know what it means. [laughs]

Acrimony, like as
bad blood and, yeah.

SEAN:
Acrimony.

Harsh or biting sharpness,

especially of words,
manner or disposition.

Hm.
I was close enough.

[exhales sharply]

JANET: There was a question
as to whether or not

Will was taking his medications.

When I checked his dosette,

there were approximately
six doses out of the seven

that weren't taken.

So that's a pretty
good indicator

that he's not taking
his medications.

JANET: Well, I'm on
my way to see Mr. Bilow

and he's going to have
his injection this morning.

The reason he's getting
an injectable medication

is Mr. Bilow has very little
insight into his illness

and he believes that he
doesn't have a mental illness,

so it's important that
he have that injection.

If he decides that
he doesn't want to,

Mr. Bilow would have to
come back to the hospital.

Do you know why you're
on your injection?

I don't know.You have no idea
what that's for?

I just figure
the doctor is mean.

Okay, you figure the doctor's
mean and he wants me

to come in here and give you
an injection every month?

Yeah.Okay.

Any concerns?

It's a violation of my rights
that I get injections.

Like if I'm injected
with needles

or if I'm forced to
take oral medication.

Okay.

They're putting drugs
in my body and I don't-

my opinion, I don't think that
they have the right to do that.

Okay.

The doctor phoned me
and he said,

"Your son's not responding to
the medication we've got him on.

"Do I have your permission
to change him over

to an injection?"

And I said yes.

Okay?Yeah.

Just hold that
for a minute.

DR. AHMED: He was obviously
very disappointed

at the outcome

of the last hearing
because he had requested

to have a conditional
discharge.

As to risk, I do not believe
there's any change in his risk.

His risk is manageable
under current conditions.

He's taking his medication.

Psychosis well controlled.

He's insightful.

So overall I'm quite pleased.

JANET:
He's very honest.

Talking to Sean about
the events of the day,

there is that remorse there,

and he is worried that this
is going to happen again.

He's expressing
his anxiety to us

so that we're going
to be able to help him

so that he doesn't
go and reoffend

or go out there and
hurt somebody else

because it really isn't
something that he wants to do.

INTERVIEWER:
Are you ever afraid

that you could commit
a violent act again?

I never feel like it.

I never feel like
committing a violent act.

But stranger things
have happened.

I don't think I will.

I really don't think I will

but I didn't think
I'd ever really do

what I did that day
at the shopping mall.

How long has it been
since you committed-

Twelve years.

And in twelve years
no further violence?

No, none.

I sort of had something
I've been thinking about.

Uh...

I've been thinking about
a letter of apology

to the victims
of my index offence.

Oh, okay.

I don't have a clue
where to start.

Okay.

I'm not sure how to word it
and things, to actually do it,

I'm not sure how
to actually do it,

I'm not sure how to word it.

I think it's going to be
stressful to write this thing.

Absolutely.

Even with the help
and everything

it's going to be stressful.

But I think it's something
that, well, its time has come

and I don't, I don't think I
want to put it off any longer.

Okay.

Right now if you could
think of one thing

you would like to
say to the victim

as a result of your actions,
what would it be?

Okay, the thing,
the thing,

the first thing that
comes to my mind is that

she's afraid to go out
in public anymore,

this victim is afraid
to go out in public.

I'd just like to tell her it
was, she wasn't singled out,

it was just a random,
uh, thing, a random act.

Before that day I didn't really
feel anger towards anybody.

But I did feel, uh...carried
around a lot of pain.

Uh, but I didn't feel
like hurting anybody.

It was a kind of
a spontaneous act.

Uh...

Even that day I just,
I kind of lost my mind

and I just, it was just, I...

I, I just had to do it and...

I just kind of had
to do it, I guess.

I was pretty sick.

[♪]

This drug is called respiradol
and it's an anti-psychotic.

And I take, by injections
I take palo-peridone

which is the same as respiradol
when it gets into the body.

I wasn't taking my pills,

I was hiding them
under my tongue before.

INTERVIEWER:
And why was that?

Because I didn't agree with
them forcing me to take drugs.

JANET: Since there's been a
change in Will's medications

six months to a year ago,

there's been a significant
change in Will

and how he's managing.

He does have
a long way to go

but he's progressing and
I think he's doing okay.

Well,
[exhales deeply]

I sat down with
my outreach nurse

from the Brockville psych

and she and I
composed a little,

uh, a little
letter of apology.

It's kind of short
and to the point.

But what I would
really prefer would be

to make the apology in person

and give them a chance to
respond and everything and...

If they're not completely
averse to the idea,

if they're not
completely offended

by my presence
and things like that.

I've got it in writing
but I think if I could I would,

I'd do it face to face.

If they don't find it
completely offensive.

As much as I know
that it's just

me at the wrong place
at the wrong time,

why is there, you know,
why me, I guess,

if that makes any sense.

I guess there's a lot of
different questions, you know.

What is it that made
him lash out, you know?

You know.

But like again, I don't
understand his sickness

so I don't know everything
about his situation or why.

So it's all little questions
I guess I would have.

It was pretty clear that,
what he had done.

There were several
witnesses to the event.

So that wasn't the matter,

but the question is
why did this happen?

For many years he
lived in the community

and he never engaged
in such activity.

So why on this particular
night did this occur?

[♪]

I don't do these kind of things
on a regular basis, John.

Things were terribly wrong
that day in a number of areas.

I was just a weak little
kid, kind of sickly

and really hurting somebody -

I was more picked on,
picked on and put upon

than I was an
aggressor, for sure.

I was not aggressive.

That was not part of
my make-up or anything.

I was born in
Cornwall, Ontario.

It's right across
the St. Lawrence River

from New York State.

Well, I'd sort of considered
suicide at a young age.

On occasion my mother could do
some very disturbing things.

My mom used to play
dead with my brothers

when they were
just little boys.

Frightened the hell
out of them.

My mother would on occasion
threaten to commit suicide

by jumping off the Seaway
International Bridge.

She used to just say that
she would take the bridge

if she didn't get her
way about something.

Trips downtown could be
difficult and painful.

I was sort of used
to being laughed at

by kids younger than me.

In grammar school

I was the slowest runner
in baseball, you know.

Playing a game of softball
I couldn't hit,

I couldn't run
and I couldn't field.

I was just hopeless.

Couldn't climb to the highest
rung on the monkey bars.

Couldn't get right up there
on the highest rung,

couldn't do that.

The other kids'd get up there

and look down and
laugh at me and stuff.

I couldn't climb up.

I was singled out
for being picked on.

Bullied and insulted

and chased home
after school or...

prevented from getting home
and things like that.

And I was just the strangest kid
anybody had ever seen, I guess.

WILL: I thought I was
under surveillance

by the police department.

I figured the police were
going to come and arrest me.

I feel like they had
a vendetta against me.

INTERVIEWER:
And so you fled

and you lived
in the woods for awhile?

Yes.

INTERVIEWER: How long
were you out in the woods?

Uh, I'd say three years.

That long?Yeah.

INTERVIEWER:
And you were 100% convinced

that there was no element of
mental illness in any of this?

Uh, I wouldn't say 100%.

You have some doubts?

Uh, I'm not sure about
some of it, yeah.

LORNA:
He's come such a long way.

The hospital basically
saved his life

because somebody
might have stabbed him

or, you never know,

or he might have stabbed
somebody else, you know,

and there would have
been even more trouble.

And he certainly
acts so much diff...

Well, he acts more
now like a man.

WILF:
Two years ago

this conversation could
never have happened.

Couldn't have happened.

INTERVIEWER:
Really?

Would have been impossible.

Those two would have been
screaming at one another,

one would jump up
off the chair.

I'd just be fearing
for my life.[chuckles]

It would have been awful.

You could not sit like this
and discuss, you know...

I'm right, aren't I?

Yeah.

SEAN: Been chasing women since
I was about four years old.

Haven't had a lot of success.

I had one girlfriend

and when things kind of
went sour between us...

I couldn't meet another girl
no matter what I tried.

I've been to all the
pick-up joints in Cornwall.

Struck out every Thursday,
Friday and Saturday night.

Never had much luck in
that scene at all, really.

And I didn't meet
another girl again.

Never had another girlfriend,

just had one in five
years of highschool.

INTERVIEWER: Since that
highschool relationship,

how has it been
for you with girls?

Oh, there's just been
no relationship.

[chuckles]

DET. WHITE: He had
a concern with women

and the fact that
he'd never been able

to maintain or establish a
relationship with a female.

And as a result he harboured
a tremendous amount

of anxiety towards women
because of that.

SEAN:
They hurt more.

Being disliked
by the girls

hurt more than being
disliked by the guys.

Somebody once made
a joke with me

about being walked all
over with high heels.

That piece of
information we thought

might have played in

as to why he selected
a random female

in an attempt
to kill her

and we felt that it was
because of this belief

that he had that women
had shunned him

and that he was unable to
have a relationship with them.

Have you ever been told
everybody hates you?

Have you been told that,
John? I've gotten that shit.

And I think maybe,
I'd have to think back,

and I'd really
have to wonder,

did it happen more than
once that someone said,

"Everybody hates you,"
you know? [chuckles]

[♪]

DR. AHMED: On the day
of the index offence,

or even weeks before then,

Sean had had all this delusional
belief about females.

He had expressed it
on several occasions.

They were persecuting him, they
had special hatred for him.

I just couldn't seem to
get that wishful thinking

about girls off
my back, you know?

I couldn't get it
off my back, John.

I just, they had tremendous
importance in my mind,

the girls.

They had the tremendous
importance in my mind

and I couldn't
get it off my back.

And I had to kind of like
balance it, you know,

like Sean, you know, you're
going to get in trouble

if you go down that
road, you know?

I kind of had to
handle these things.

And then when someone
finally came along and said,

like Sean,
to hell with you...

I may have snapped
like a dry twig.

[♪]

DR. AHMED: Unfortunately
the victim was identified

as a representative of
the people that hated him.

And he was full of anger

and the anger was psychotically
motivated as well.

This person is a
representative of the gender

that didn't like me and I was
going to take the person out.

He was motivated by a disorder,
a disease of his mind.

I felt so upset, I could
see myself losing control

if I didn't talk to somebody.

DET. WHITE:
The investigation showed

that Sean Clifton had
gone to the hospital

and he was looking
to see someone.

The information was that

he had told either
one of the workers

or one of the residents at
the group home he lived at

that he was hearing
voices again.

And that he seemed to be,

that he thought that he
was delusional again.

I went up to the
psychiatric ward and,

well, they said they were
too busy to talk to me.

Uh...

I don't think
they realized

I'd about reached
my breaking point.

INTERVIEWER:
And then what happened?

Well...

then...
I guess, uh...

I kind of snapped,
and, uh...

I think
I lost self-control.

The brakes were off.

So consider it like a car

that doesn't have a
brake on a snowy day.

No snow tires, no brake.

SEAN: But I
couldn't stop it,

I just couldn't get
a grip on myself

once things started
to roll.

Things were terribly wrong
that day in a number of areas.

A number of things went wrong.

I mean, the
impairment of the OCD

and the slipping away of
my self-control, like I didn't,

I didn't care if they put me
in jail forever, you know.

I felt that this little
feud that was going on

between me and...

some people
in my home town

had reached a new level,

had reached a new low

and it was now like
a war without rules.

[♪]

It was just a regular night.

We were, we had decided
to go for a coffee

but Lynn had just
had a baby

and wanted to get
formula and diapers

so I said, "Oh, let's take
a ride down to Wal-Mart

before heading
out for a coffee,"

and just, you know,

you think that it's just an
ordinary night walking in.

I sat down at Wal-Mart
on a bench in the doorway

and I just, I couldn't
seem to bring myself

down to earth again
once I got that upset.

And I think that's when
I decided I had to do it.

You know, he stood out
to me, he stood out

so I could see, you know,
the long hair, the--you know,

sometimes you just can
sense it, you know?

You can just see
it in their eyes.

After I sat there a little
while I shoplifted a knife

and...

I could hear some yelling and
I was walking towards the door

and he started
running towards.

But I thought,
I kind of looked back

because I thought he was
yelling and upset at somebody.

I waited for a member of
the opposite sex to come by

and I stabbed one of them.

And I felt like
he had punched me.

So, you know,
I just - you know,

at that time everything's
going through your head,

like what did I do,
you know?

Why are you running
towards me?

And I happened
to look down

and that's when
I noticed the blood.

So at that point I knew
that I had been stabbed.

After that I don't
remember too much.

I remember falling to the
ground and thinking to myself,

if I fall, maybe he'll stop,
thinking that, you know...

I didn't move, I just
wanted to kind of play dead

so I knew that, you know,
he wouldn't hurt me anymore.

DET. WHITE: Mr. Clifton
continued his attack

as she went to the ground

and again lunging with a knife
trying to strike her with it.

There were several
bystanders at the scene

at the particular time

and some of them
approached Clifton.

So that's when I stood in front
of him and I looked at him,

and I said to the
person, I said,

"What did you go and do here?"

And he wouldn't answer me,
he just, he backed away.

I could hear yelling, you
know, he was cursing,

"Die," you know,
"you bitch" and all that.

You know, just...

And at that point,
you know,

you're still thinking in your
head like is this it, you know?

That's what I kind of felt,
you know, is like,

am I going to see the
white light now, you know?

Is this my time?

[inhales sharply]

LATOUR:
I got back down on one knee.

I said, "What's your name?"
And she said, "Julie."

I said, "Julie,
my name is Deric."

And she looked up at
me and she says to me,

"Are you my angel?"

And I said, "No, Julie,"
I said, "I'm not your angel,

I'm just a regular
person here to help you."

I says, "And you don't
have to worry about the guy

that hurt you,
he's away,"

I said, "and help
is on its way."

[loud siren]

I think after the shock
kind of, the initial shock,

you kind of start to feel,

I remember feeling
the sting and the, the...

I can only describe it more
or less like wet, you know?

Like that feeling of sting and
the wet and just laying there

and I don't think it took
long for the ambulance

to get there but to me
it felt like an eternity

because it was hurting
at that point,

the pain was,
was unbearable.

And then he started ranting
and raving a little bit,

like he was just,

like he couldn't believe
what he was doing.

He was getting a
little worked up.

He goes, "You fuckin'
bitch," he said,

"you're nothing but
a fuckin' bitch."

And he's still
ranting around, eh?

And he's doing like
pirouettes, he's,

as if he can't
believe what he did.

And then finally
there was a calm,

it was just like a calm
as if nothing happened.

He walks right up to me.

You know, and I'm
standing right there.

Like I could put my hand
right on his shoulder.

And he says in a very
calm voice, he says,

"Do you think the police
are going to come?"

And it sort of stunned me.

I just went, like,
"What? What do I say now?"

Then all of a sudden
I was shocked to see that,

all of a sudden you
could see the anger

come right back in his face,

like the other, I
don't know how you say,

Dr. Jekyll and
Mr. Hyde type thing.

It was like Mr. Hyde
was coming out of him

and he just got angry
and he just looked at me

and he says,
"I hope you fuckin' die,

you cunt and
go to hell."

And that's when
I said, "Okay,"

I started approaching,
I said,

"That's enough of that,"
I said.

"You did your damage,
it's done, drop the knife.

You're not going to
hurt her any more."

I know I didn't try
and get away but don't,

I don't recall considering
trying to get away.

INTERVIEWER:
But you remember sort of

lingering at
the scene after?

Yeah.

Do you remember much of
the events of that night?

I remember a few
things about it.

And even though you
were fairly aware,

you couldn't
stop yourself?No.

INTERVIEWER: How is it
that he can remember

so much of what happened
that day, was that aware,

but still was unable
to stop himself?

The disorder we're
dealing with here

is not a disorder of memory.

The individual does
not have, as it were,

a memory problem.

So an individual who suffers
from paranoiac psychosis

will be able to tell
you what happened.

In fact, they may even
plan what happened.

Let's come back to Sean.

With that psychotically
motivated anger,

he went into the shop,
found the weapon

that he needed to use
to achieve his goal.

It's payback time.

I felt cornered into doing
some kind of violent thing

and that's what happened.

INTERVIEWER: What did
you hope to accomplish

in terms of your hurt and
your pain by this stabbing?

I didn't hope to
accomplish anything.

Just, I'd do it and
it would be over with

and then I'd forget
about it and...

I'd get that feeling
off my back

that I wanted
to stab somebody.

I was just kind of
taken over by it.

INTERVIEWER:
And by stabbing her,

was this somehow
hurting them,

hurting the people
that had hurt you?

I don't know if I
wanted to hurt them

or if I just wanted that urge
to hurt, to get somebody,

to st--to do that act,
the urge to do it to go away.

Several months ago
I kind of was think -

I thought about it,
you know,

did I really want
to hurt that person

or would I have...
would have I,

would I do it over again

if I thought they weren't
going to feel any pain?

And I think I would,
I'd just do it and say,

"There, I've done it,"
you know?

Leave me alone,
you know?

So the difference
between a Sean Clifton

and a person who
is not mentally ill

who commits murder

is the fact that the person
who has a mental illness

doesn't have a choice
in his actions.

His actions are
driven by his illness.

On the other hand,
the person who,

a regular person who commits
murder has a choice,

he makes a choice
in interactions.

Hello.

Could I please have a large
coffee with two cream

and two teaspoons of honey
and a lemon Danish?

Sure.

INTERVIEWER: Are you suggesting
that mentally ill people

who commit violent
crimes, murders, even,

can in fact be good people?

DET. WHITE:
Oh absolutely,

and I've seen it
time and time again.

These are good people.

He did a very bad thing but
he's still a very good person.

And that's why we can never
give up on these people

and that, because
they are good people.

CAPPER: Sean absolutely
is a kind and decent person.

It's the illness that is
the underlying, you know,

cause of the violence.

Not Sean as a person.

Sean is kind,
genuine, honest.

They're not born violent.

This is an illness that
develops at a certain age.

So absolutely with
treatment and medication,

this can be diminished.

And they can live
happy, healthy lives.

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JULIE: I received this
letter a little while ago

from Sean Clifton

and I've not had a chance

to read it so I will
read it to you.

"Dear Julie and the rest
of the Bouvier family:

"I know that nothing I
can say can ever make up

"for the ordeal and the pain
that you have gone through.

"But I want you to know
how deeply sorry I am

"about what I did to Julie

and for the pain I have
caused you and your family."

I hope you understand

that I have a very
serious mental illness.

That night I was
very, very sick.

I was not myself.

I was not violent
before I became sick,

I was quite gentle growing up.

"But the night of the incident
the illness took over me.

"I could not help myself.

I have thought many times
about apologizing to you."

I was not very well.

I found it too hard to
put the words on paper.

"I do not want Julie to be
afraid of me or to be going out.

"She does not need
to worry about me.

"It was just a completely
irrational act.

If it had not been her it
would have been somebody else."

I accept that I have
a mental illness,

I know I need medications.

I know I will have to take
them for the rest of my life.

Once again, I want to
say I am deeply sorry

to you, Julie, and to
Mr. and Mrs. Bouvier

and the entire family.

"I hope you will
accept my apology.

Yours sincerely, Sean Clifton."

Wow.

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ANDY: I don't see him
as an evil person,

I see him as a...

as a sick person.

And Sean sounds like a much
happier person right now

even taking his medication.

I mean...

JULIE: Um...

I do accept his apology

and I feel his
sincerity in this.

I don't find it necessary...

to do it in person.

I think that I get it,
I understand.

I truly understand
that he is remorseful

for everything that
happened that night,

and don't hold
anything against him.

And just to hear
him say, you know,

that night it was
random, it wasn't you,

I wasn't feeling well,
I was sick,

that's good enough for me.

NOELLA: We've waited
so long for an apology

so it's kind
of nice for Julie

to get the letter in hand

and we're very happy and we,

of course we said before
that we've forgiven Sean.

So very grateful to
get this letter today.

WHALEN: There's been
a psychiatric institution

in this community for
over a hundred years.

You can go into a local
restaurant or a mall

and you'll see maybe every
fifteen or twenty minutes

somebody will walk by
mumbling to themselves.

Or displaying some
sort of behaviour

that again is not
within the norm.

Hi, Allie.How are you today?

Good, thanks, how are you?

I'm good, what can
I get you today?

Could I please have
a medium coffee and--

What would you like in it?

Double cream, please.Okay.

That everything?

WHALEN: They're just accepted
as part of the community.

I've never seen them overtly

or in your face
people abusing people

in this community
that are different.

You have family here?

No, I've got family
sort of spread out

through south-eastern
Ontario, like in the...

And I told her
what was going on,

that they were
making a documentary

on recovery from mental illness
and things like that.

Well, things will work,
so they got you

on the right medication,

it's doing what
it's supposed to do?

It's doing its thing,

it's kind of getting me
on the path to reality.

Yeah.

INTERVIEWER: So you were
very open about the fact,

with a complete stranger,
that you had a mental illness.

Yeah I was.

No sense trying to hide it.
[chuckles]

How did she respond?

Positively.

What's your name?Sean Clifton.

Sean Clifton.

I'm just a guy from the psyche
who's starring in a documentary.

SEAN: She asked me
for my autograph,

so I graciously
obliged her

and signed an
autograph for her.

She'd have talked to me
another five or ten minutes,

I think, if I would have
had something to say.

Well good for you.Yeah.

Well I wish you
all the best.

Thank you very much.

I'm happy for you.Thank you.

That's very good.

Morning, Wayne.

Morning, Sean, how
are you this morning?

Good, thanks, how are you?Good, thank you.

SEAN: I like my freedom and,
well, like I said, I -

it would be nice to be
a regular guy again.

[♪]

I'm not going to say I want
to put the crazy period

in the past

and just forget
about it.

It's really been
an education

and it'll be food for
thought for a long time.

I guess I
would like to,

I'd like to have
my sanity back.

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