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Sightings of unidentified
flying objects have become

so frequent in recent years that

the U.S. Government can
no longer dismiss them.

Days ago, the Pentagon delivered
this, their highly anticipated

declassified report
on UFO activity.

Tonight, we will
take a deep dive

into the report and examine what
It revealed about the state of

our national and
global security.

And perhaps life beyond
our solar system.

This is UFOs Declassified Live.

Welcome to UFOs
Declassified Live.

I'm Josh Gates.

Normally I'm traveling to far
flung locations around the world.

Investigating mysteries on
my series Expedition Unknown.

This evening they've let me take a
shower and clean up a little bit.

I'm here in Las Vegas, along
with fellow adventurer,

the host of Expedition X,

Jessica Chobot.

Hi, thanks for having
me, happy to be here.

I am looking forward to
declassifying some UFOs.

It's going to be a big night.

Together we will be tackling the
mystery of UFOs, this report,

the science of these
aerial anomalies

and who or what
could be behind them.

We'll do it by deciphering the fresh
off the press Pentagon UFO report

and the jaw dropping
footage that prompted it.

We have got a rotating panel of
experts to analyze everything tonight

and we want to hear from
you, tweet using the hashtag,

"UFOs Declassified Live," and be
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to participate in
our live polls,

starting us off this evening, our
panel, we have the award winning

investigative
journalist, George Knapp

and investigative filmmaker,

the man who kicked off this whole thing
with some of the most compelling images

of UFOs caught on tape.

Jeremy Corbell, good
to see both of you.

- Nice to see ya, Josh.
- Yeah, thanks for being here.

All right, this Pentagon
report was initially requested

by the US Select
Committee on Intelligence

in December of 2020, but its
roots go far deeper than that.

Take a look.

[narrator] UFO sightings
have been tracked by

the United States
government since the 1940s.

As claims have often been
dismissed by government officials,

the public has no idea of
the extent of the activity

or what it could mean
to national security,

however, reports of what has been
described as aggressive UFO activity

has spiked in recent years,

especially over
military institutions,

putting the United States
Department of Defense on edge.

[pilot] 50 knots.

Closing in.

These increased public
sightings, along with UFO footage

leaked by military
personnel has forced the DOD

to change their long
standing position.

It is history changing,
it is without a doubt,

the story of the millennia.

[narrator] And for the first time,
they have authenticated videos

of unidentified flying objects,

they know that these crafts
feature highly advanced technology,

and are not part
of the US military.

This caught the attention of the
Senate Intelligence Committee

led by Senator Marco Rubio,

they demanded a full report on UFOs
for the sake of national security.

Anything that enters an
airspace, that's not supposed

to be there is a threat.

[narrator] Coming off a flurry of
intense interest from the media,

the report was delivered
to Congress just days ago.

Tonight, we identify key findings
and unanswered questions.

Who do these craft belong to?

Adversaries in Russia or China.

Is there a possibility they
originated beyond our solar system?

Or is there a peaceful
and earthly explanation?

And what does the evidence
revealed in the report mean

for the United
States and the world?

All right, well, let's
get right into it,

George, let's start with you, you have been
investigating UFOs from ground zero here

in the desert for
more than 30 years.

First blush reaction, what
do you make of this report?

It's massively important,
it's such a radical departure

from what we've been spoon
fed, the lies and obfuscation

we've been spoon fed by our military
and our government for decades

behind the scenes since 1947.

Our military is taking
this very seriously,

while telling the public,
there's nothing to it.

Don't worry about it, move on.

This report is only nine pages,

it doesn't have
a lot of details,

but it at least is a
new policy direction

and it screams out
two things to me.

One, is that UFOs are real
and they are physical objects,

two, they're not ours.

All right, Jeremy, you have had
your eyes on most of the videos

that we're talking about
tonight, long before

they ever went to Congress,
your thoughts on all of this?

I'm highly encouraged
by this report,

mainly I'm encouraged by the
disappointment from the public,

people wanted more
substance, more information,

they don't have any videos
in the public report,

but what that shows me is that pop
culture is grabbing on to this.

UFO mystery,

and they're agreeing and
the military is saying,

"We should study this
phenomenon scientifically,"

that's what the report
says. This requires study.

George, I think you probably
know better than anyone

as an investigative journalist how
secretive the government can be

on the topic of UFOs.

Why the sudden rush
to transparency here?

It's a combination of events
that this overnight success

actually started about 26
years ago here in Las Vegas.

Robert Bigelow, businessman created
his own independent UFO think tank

that got the attention
of Senator Harry Reid,

who a decade later got
$22 million to devote

to a secret program that studied
UFOs and related phenomena,

that there was a corollary
program that existed

in the Pentagon that
collected information

including some of the videos
that we're going to see tonight,

and it came spilling out in The
New York Times in December 2017

and it's rolled like
a snowball ever since.

I want to talk about technology
a little bit here at the top,

you know, in this report,
there are 143 unidentified,

you know, instances, a lot of those
were made with real high tech stuff.

FLIR is one of them, a
forward looking infrared,

how does this kind of technology
differ from other sensor systems?

Right, so we're living
in a different world now

where we have corroborative
video and thermal evidence,

so it's not just a pilot saying,

"Hey, I saw a UFO, it did
some amazing maneuvers."

Now you have, as you said,
forward looking infrared

which is a thermal camera,
you have night vision

which amplifies light.

We also have radar and also
just corroborative sensor data

that is not released
to the public,

they all tell the
same tale about UFOs.

Okay, can I play devil's
advocate here for a moment?

Uh, let me put on
my skeptic hat,

we've got 143
unidentified objects

or instances here
in this report,

a skeptic might say, "Well,
they're unidentified,"

you know, despite all
this high tech equipment

in the FLIR and the radar.

We don't know what
these things are,

"they still look
blurry and fuzzy."

What do we say to that?

Well, more than 80, more
than half of the cases

in that report are confirmed
by more than one sensor,

so they've got a pretty strong
indication that these are

physical objects, they appear
to be manufactured objects,

they have some kind of propulsion
system that we do not understand.

And what about the possibility
that these objects are,

you know, from our own planet?

Could these belong to a foreign
government and adversary?

That's also addressed in here and
they have to leave those options open

in the report, they say, could
be foreign made technology,

although we have no
evidence of that.

Could it be secret
American technology?

Yeah, but there's no
evidence of that either.

But that's a big
question, right?

Could this be a technology
that comes from us, you know,

the US military, the most
advanced military in the world,

do we have the technology
to create objects like this?

We do not.

[chuckles] - Not that
anyone I've ever talked to,

I've been pretty far,
far up the food chain

and no one says that
this is our technology.

Okay, a lot more on
this tonight obviously,

one of the simplest takeaways
from the report so far

that you're going to be
hearing a lot about tonight

is the term of UAP, which stands
for unidentified aerial phenomena,

it is the official somewhat
fancier government name for UFOs.

But until that catches on, you're
going to be hearing both terms tonight,

and right now, we are going
to hear from our co-host

Jessica Chobot who has an
exclusive live interview. Jessica.

Thanks, Josh. We have got a lot
of questions to address tonight

and our first guest is here
to help get some answers.

Joining us now remotely is
counterterrorism subcommittee chairman,

André Carson, who led the
classified briefing on UAPs

for members of the House
Intelligence Committee.

Good to see you,
Congressman Carson.

What a pleasure, thank you.

Thanks for being on the
show, so I'll jump right in,

what, why do you feel that the report
was important enough to push through?

Well, I think for me, you know,

that this is a national
security priority.

If there is technology out
there that we can't explain

that has huge implications for the safety
and security of the American people,

you know, for many years,

I've been urging our
intelligence community

to take UAPs,
commonly known as UFOs

more seriously for
this very reason,

so, I'm very pleased
that we're moving in

the right direction
on that goal.

Awesome. So were you pleased
with the results of the report?

I mean, you mentioned you
were moving towards the goal,

but are you pleased
with the report itself?

Well, I was pleased that the DNI
issued a public report on this issue,

obviously, the content
of the report shows

that we need to do a lot more
research and investigating.

Even though this report didn't
give us all of the answers.

It's very significant because
it represents a big shift

in the way our intelligence
community handles information.

So, what part of the report
stands out the most to you?

You know, I think the size
and scale of the reporting

on UAPs is the most significant.

- Mm-hmm.
- The DNI report clearly outlines an initial baseline

for the sheer number
of UAP events.

There were 144
reports of UAP events

from government sources

and 80 of those reports
involve multiple sensors

that detect the UAP, so that's
a fairly sizable number.

Um, you know, it's
not a one off.

So, once, you know,
it's not a, it's not

a once in a blue
moon phenomenon.

Something is going on here

and we all know
how to explain it.

So with that being said, then what do
you personally believe the UAPs are?

Well, I'll say this,

I, I think we have a lot
more investigating to do

before I can answer
that confidently.

Mmm-hmm. But I
think a lot of us,

a lot of folks like me, um,
would like to say that we

we suspect if there's
extraterrestrial life,

but, you know, the intelligence
community says we can't completely rule

that out, but it's clear,

we have to do a
lot more digging.

All of the stakeholders
have to come together

and put aside any preconceived
notions about UAPs

and really engage in a
very good faith effort

to study the potential
security threat, obviously,

so we need teams of experts
across the national security space

and across the intelligence
community as well

as civilian reports really
studying this issue.

Taking input, and I think
making very sound conclusions

about what this could be, whether it's
a threat to our national security.

And where I believe I
can be the most helpful

is by encouraging more research and
informing the public as much as we can

about these findings.

Well, it's been
great talking to you.

Thank you so much
for your time, sir.

- What an honor. Thank you.
- Thank you. Josh.

Thanks, Jessica. Well, we
have a packed show tonight,

including an interview with
former White House Chief of Staff,

John Podesta and stunning
just released video

from the deck of the
aircraft carrier USS Omaha,

It is just one piece of
the incredible footage

that we're going to
be reviewing tonight

as we unravel the identity
of these unidentified objects

and during the break,
hit us up on Twitter

using the hashtag UFOs
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It's a big night and we are just
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Welcome back to UFOs
Declassified Live,

I'm Josh Gates.

In addition to being a former
White House Chief of Staff,

John Podesta has been
a longtime believer

in the possibility of
extraterrestrial life,

to discuss the latest revelations
in the Pentagon UFO report

is John Podesta.

Thanks for joining us, sir.

Good to be with you, Josh.

Well, look I know that
you have been calling

for the release of this kind
of information for a long time,

so you must be relieved that
this report has come out,

having read it,
what's your takeaway?

Well, I welcomed it.

Uh, it answered a lot of, it
gave us a lot of information,

but it opened up more
questions than it answered.

Right. And I know you
have said for a long time

that that really all of this
information should be declassified,

there is a classified
version of this report,

there's also video, we know that
the Pentagon has not released.

Do you believe still that
all of that should come out?

Yes, and I think the American
people would welcome that.

Uh, we know that the
United States government

has had 144 encounters

with unidentified aerial
phenomenon since 2004,

and they can only
explain one of them.

So, let the public
look at this data,

look at the video, let
scientists chew on it

and I think we'll
learn a lot more about

what the, what these UAP
phenomena really is all about.

You famously tweeted in
2014 that you felt that one

of your greatest failures
was not securing the release

of this information during
the Obama administration,

why do you think
it's so important

that the public
get a look at this?

I think the public really
is very intrigued by

whether there is life
and whether these UAPs

are examples of that and there's
just tremendous popular interest.

Uh, and I think that the,
the government really has

an obligation not to hide it,

uh, not to, not to pretend
that it doesn't exist,

not to be embarrassed by it, but just put
the information out, let people see it,

understand it, debate it.

And considering we have now
in this report, 143 examples

of what seemed to be
technologically advanced

something that
has been detected.

Does this represent an
intelligence failure

on some level that we don't
know what these objects are?

Well, look, I think
for a long time,

there was just a stigma involved
in even discussing this phenomena.

- Right.
- And so I think people look the other way.

And I'm glad now as a result of
efforts, really heroic efforts,

particularly by former
Democratic Senator Harry Reid

to push this out
into the public.

The Pentagon's taking it seriously,
they've created a UAP Task Force,

the Navy and Air Force
both have programs,

but again, I'd like to see
this more on the civilian side,

led by civilian scientists, so that we
don't have this cover of classification,

uh, hiding a lot of information
from the American public.

Well, I'm sure there is much more
information to come on this front.

Thank you so much for your time
today. I really appreciate it, sir.

Thanks for having me on.

You know this latest round of UAP
sightings generates a lot of questions,

none more important
than friend or foe,

are these UAPs friendly or could
they be set on doing us harm?

And regardless of whether
they're an earthly adversary

or extra-terrestrial, how
prepared is our military?

[pilot] Oh, my gosh, dude.

[Jim] Something is out there
and we don't know what it is,

people start seeing
unidentified flying objects

and they're coming
over a military bases,

and we don't know
what to do about it.

I wonder if we are not in
some ways less prepared

for this problem than
we were 70 years ago,

the facts are that we have
unexplained aerial phenomena

that are penetrating
our airspace,

we don't know what they are.

We don't understand
their capabilities,

they seem to defy the laws
of physics as we know it.

[man] Lift off.

The United States Navy has
admitted that there are

objects which they do
not know what they are.

So whether or not there's enough
data in all of these videos

is not the key point.

The key point is
the US Navy admits

that they can't
identify the objects.

[Jim] It is definitely
displaying technology in order

of technology well, well
beyond we have here.

Uh, how do we take that?

Uh, I don't know, I mean,
do we see that as a threat?

Are we ready, are the
world governments ready?

Is the United States ready to
defend itself against this threat.

We've never seen
anything like it.

The amount of G
forces they contain,

we don't know whether
they're piloted

or remotely controlled
or their drones.

- [pilot] What was... Splash.
- Splash.

They seem to be
especially concentrated,

where there are
nuclear facilities

there are nuclear tests,
or there are nuclear

propulsion systems
in the military.

It's been reported these things
accelerate through the sound barrier,

but without a sonic boom.

This implies almost
a new physics

in terms of defining a threat.

The military sometimes
use the equation

capability times
intent equals threat.

We don't have one of the values,

the capability looks
really, really impressive.

The intent remains
completely unknown.

Well, joining veteran
investigative reporter George Knapp

and documentarian and
UFO expert Jeremy Corbell

on the panel,

our former member of the British
Ministry of Defense Nick Pope

and former CIA
officer Jim Semivan.

Welcome to you both.
Thanks for being here.

- You're welcome, Josh, thanks for having us here.
- Absolutely, I'm,

I'm intimidated and
terrified of you both.

All right, let's, let's get
into some questions here,

the report found that there was
clustering around military assets.

So, Jim, do you see this as intentional
targeting of our ships and facilities?

Oh, yes, absolutely.

You know, we had an
incident in 2019,

where they were close to
what 50 to 100 UAP swarming

and nine vessel, I mean,
nine vessel warships

uh, you know, were they
interested in what?

Surveillance or were they, be
interested in being threatening,

uh, we don't know that for sure.

[Josh] I've also heard reports
about this kind of clustering

happening around nuclear
sites is that true?

Absolutely and we have
them around nuclear sites,

nuclear missile sites,
nuclear testing facilities,

and we also have them around our
intercontinental ballistic missile sites.

And, you know, you look at this and you
say, well, you know, what is this about?

I mean all this has
been well documented,

but they appear to be strongly interested
in our nuclear technology, that's for sure.

Sort of terrifying to hear.

- It is terrifying, yeah.
- Uh, Nick,

you brought up something really
interesting in the package

we just watched.

I wanna make sure I get
this right, you brought up

the equation capability
times intent equals threat.

So, you know, one of the
alarming details in this report

is that if the data is accurate, the
capabilities of these, of these objects

seems kind of off the charts.

Can we really know their intent?

No, we can't.

If this was Russia or China,

intelligence officers
would have a fair idea,

but if it's something unknown,
possibly extraterrestrial.

We have no idea.

Therefore, we can't
define the threat

and if you can't
define or evaluate it,

hope for the best,
prepare for the worst.

So, okay, well, let's
say that they do have

these tremendous capabilities and
that we don't know what they are,

I mean, if that's,
if that's the case,

shouldn't President Biden be
hiding in a bunker somewhere, Jim?

I mean, I'm getting
nervous here.

Well, not necessarily,
I mean, you know,

in 1940, '47, the Air Force
came out and they said,

"We don't deem UAPs a threat."

And there's no evidence
to we have right now

that they're an existential
threat to this country

or and to anybody else.

So, at the moment, they seem
to pose more of a hazard

to aviation than they do a threat
to the military or to the country.

Let's talk about technology
here, Jim, do you,

do you see these UAPs
as being more advanced

than our top of the
line stealth arsenal?

Oh, I think absolutely,
absolutely, you know,

stealth technology is
all about low visibility,

it's like not being seen.

Well, these things
are UAPs on steroids.

I mean, these are, I'm sorry stealth
fighters aircraft on steroids.

They seem to appear and
disappear instantaneously.

So, you have to ask
yourself, I mean,

are they using a cloaking device,
what are they doing to get this?

I've even read, Nick, that
some people have theorized that

our own stealth technology
is somehow based off

of these UAPs, that feels
a little farfetched to me,

what do you make of that?

Well, I don't know if we got
stealth technology from UFOs,

but UFOs seem to be using it and
one of the really interesting things

in the report to Congress is the
phrase, "signature management."

These objects are taking
active measures to suppress

their radar signature making it
more difficult for us to track them,

there's an intelligence
at play here.

All of this is so fascinating.

Uh, I was just informed that
we are trending on Twitter

which I think speaks
to the fascination

that people have
with this topic,

I want to check in with
my co-host Jessica Chobot,

she is an investigator
in her own right.

Tonight, she is digging in with a very
special guest to get some answers. Jess.

Thank you, Josh, with me right
now is former F-16 fighter pilot,

Tracy Latourette, to give us her insight
on a pilot's eye view of these phenomena.

So, Tracy, a common theme
when discussing these UAPs

has been that they are more
advanced than our military's finest.

Our US stealth aircraft
is highly regarded though

and our foreign adversaries also
have stealth technology as well,

So can you please give us the rundown
on these different types of craft?

You bet, Jess, so the term stealth
refers to an aircraft's ability

to avoid detection by radar,

we typically hear stealth
and think of, well,

most often the B-2 Spirit
or the F-117 Nighthawk,

this is the bomber,
this is our fighter.

The great thing is we've been
able to take lessons we've learned

from the employment of these
two aircraft and design

the latest fifth generation
stealth technology

which is at the end down there,

the F-22 Raptor and not shown

our F-35 Lightning II.

So, that's our
latest and greatest,

but we're not alone.

- Mm-hmm.
- We're not the only countries that have these,

the Chinese have
the Chengdu J-20,

The Russians have the SU-57,

so it's important that we continue
to stay ahead of the competition,

we're always looking
for emerging threats.

Interesting, so what puts the stealth
heads and shoulders above the rest?

Well, I think that's really
one of the best things

about our nation, is not only are
we, do we have these great aircraft

that have proven time and again

that they're
incredibly effective.

But, we never give
up, we never rest,

we're always pushing
the envelope.

In fact, this technologies, or, I'm
sorry, that F-22 and 35 technology

- is 20 years old.
- Yeah.

So I would love to know what is
classified, -What's going on?

- What's behind the curtain.
- [laughs]

- Something's happening.
- Oh, for sure.

Well, can any of these aircraft
actually move like the UAPs

we've been capturing and seeing?

I haven't seen any of them
move exactly like that,

but we do have some that
have some thrust vectoring

that does allow them to do
some interesting maneuvers,

but it's still very different than,
than what we're seeing tonight.

Interesting, all right, well, thank you
for your insight, Tracy. Josh, back to you.

Thank you, Jessica and Tracy.

Next up, we have got one of
the most incredible videos

responsible for the compilation
of the Pentagon report,

it is called the Tic Tac video,

and you will not believe
how this thing moves.

Plus, we've got that amazing, newly
released footage from the deck

of the USS Omaha,

when our broadcast continues

and tweet us using the hashtag
UFOs Declassified Live on Twitter

and share your close
encounter stories.

We'll be right back.

[Josh] Welcome back to
UFOs Declassified Live,

well, based on our poll,
it looks like 66.7% of you

do not believe there is
any evidence of hostility

with recent UFO sightings.

Peace loving aliens. The other
33% of you, Mars Attacks.

Welcome back to the show, uh, I am
really excited that you're all here,

we're having an amazing time going through
the recently submitted to the public,

Pentagon UFO report.

Uh, joining us now, we have a very
special guest here joining our panel,

we have got our resident F-16
fighter pilot Tracy Latourrette,

welcome, thank you
for joining us.

- Thanks for having me.
- Of course.

So, as we just saw, the report
that was just delivered to Congress

leans heavily on the accounts
of military aviators.

Of course, that makes sense.

They are equipped with the best
surveillance technology around

and footage captured
using this high end gear

is difficult to dispute.

Get ready for this, the following
was captured using FLIR,

forward looking infrared in 2004

on the USS Nimitz in
San Diego, check it out.

All right, Jeremy, walk us through
what we are looking at here.

[Jeremy] Right, so, this is FLIR
footage which is a thermal footage

who was Commander Chad Underwood

who was tasked out towards
the tic tac object,

remember there were a lot
of Tic Tacs dropping in

from 80,000 feet
down to sea level

in less than a
second and a half,

incredible speeds, but
they caught one of them,

and this is footage of that, and
you'll see at towards the end

of the footage, it does
shoot off to the left end

that the tracking pot, it's
outside of the tolerance of it,

so it can't hold it at the end.

Incredible speeds are demonstrated
at the end of this video.

[Josh] Absolutely,
remarkable stuff,

so I have to take this over
to Tracy at this point,

you're the only one here at this table who
really knows what it's like to fly around

in a fighter jet, let's say
you see one of these things,

what do you do? What's
your, what's your response?

Well, what you do,
it depends, right?

That's always the answer.

But the first thing is
always going to be inserting

just a split second pause that
allows me that critical moment,

to become aware of
the critical details

in the surroundings,
assess the situation

and then act in accordance
with my objective.

So, in this case, that means
that I want to identify

whether or not this
is a friendly target

or a friendly or if
it's something else,

and whether or not I'm
able to identify that,

the next thing is going to be,

"Do I see any kind
of hostile intent?"

- And luckily, I don't see any here so...
- All right, well, that's good.

As a pilot. Have you ever
seen anything like this?

I have never seen anything like
this, so it's pretty exciting.

Okay. Wow. All right, George,

I want to turn to you
for a moment here.

I've heard people refer to a
kind of checklist of authenticity

when it comes to UFOs, the
four main criteria being

footage, eye witnesses,
radar, and propulsion.

For you, how many boxes
does this footage check?

All of them. I mean,
we've seen the footage.

The whole world has
seen that footage is,

and is impressed by it.

The witnesses are the
most trustworthy people,

they're naval aviators, best
fighter pilots in the world,

all credible people with
top security clearances,

the propulsion system
is the question mark.

All we know that it
is that it's not ours.

Jim, any chance that what
we're seeing in this video

is a top secret US
military project?

Yeah, it's highly unlikely,

it would be absolute folly
for one branch of the military

to introduce a new technology
into a active military exercise,

in this particular
case, a navy exercise,

it'd be too much chance for
error and mistakes to be made

and the Navy hierarchy in this
case would never have permitted it.

Tracy, just to give
me some sense of this,

how advanced would
this object have to be

to be up there
competing with our own,

you know, stealth
aircraft and jet fighters,

I mean, compare the two for me.

Well, I think, to be
able to move as abruptly

and as fast as this object does,

it has to be significantly
more advanced

than our fifth
generation technology,

but as I mentioned before,

that's been around for 20 years,

so I'd have a hard time
believing that there's not

a whole lot of advancement going on
at those highest classified levels

and, remember, none of us are
allowed to know everything.

So...

But, does that mean that you
think this could be something

that's US military or no?

I think that the level
of classification

that we have protects us.

And, so I think
that it's possible.

It is possible, George, one of the
things that really jumps out at me

about the Tic Tac video is
that it comes from 2004.

Why do you think it
took 17 years to catch

the public's
attention like this?

Well, it actually came
out, it was leaked,

somebody shot it off a screen and
it got put up on an obscure website

then quickly taken down and
in a couple of years later,

there was a behind the
scenes study that was done

that interviewed all the pilots,
collected all that information.

It wasn't until Jeremy and I started
talking about it in early 2017

that the public was
starting to catch on.

And then The New York Times
got the video and it exploded,

they put it on the front page, I think that
is why that story went all over the world.

Amazing stuff. All
right. Coming up,

an exclusive interview with
the airmen who captured

the footage of the
Tic Tac and later,

we will be sharing riveting
footage of a recent UAP sighting

you do not want to miss.

And we'll be speaking to
the man who released it,

the guy sitting next
to me, Jeremy Corbell,

as our experts continue
to examine the evidence

and arrive at their verdict.

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[Josh] Welcome back to the show,
our live poll shows that folks

are pretty divided on what the
tic tac video actually shows.

We've got a real split
opinion on this front.

Welcome back to UFOs
Declassified Live.

I'm Josh Gates and joining me
on my esteemed panel of experts.

Our UFO aficionados Jeremy Corbell,
George Knapp, and Jim Samivan.

Okay, so before the break,
we saw this Tic Tac video.

It is a remarkable and
compelling piece of evidence

suggesting to some that there
could be extra-terrestrial life.

The footage was captured back in 2004 by
former Navy airman commander Chad Underwood

who actually coined
the term Tic Tac UFO.

He has never spoken publicly
about this incident, until now.

Now, Jeremy, I understand
that when Chad spotted this,

whatever this was, the systems
on his aircraft actually jammed?

Yeah, his optics and weapon
systems were actively jammed.

Okay. This is amazing
stuff, let's take a look.

Declassified videos and authentic
Department of Defense footage.

[man] Splash.

[man on radio] There's
a whole fleet...

[Josh] You should have
been able to target it,

you weren't, that is a indication
of active jamming, is that correct?

- Yes.
- Wow.

Once I got the target
of interest on my radar.

I took a lock, and that's when
all the kind of the funky things

started happening.

The erratic nature
of the Tic Tac,

the airspeed was
very telling to me.

Then we started seeing what
we call jam strobe lines,

strobe lines are vertical lines

that show up on your radar that are
indications that you're being jammed.

[indistinct radio chatter]

Interview, uh, I got to
ask first, first off,

how did you get Chad to
speak out about this?

He's been really
reluctant to do that.

Right, so, Commander
David Fravor is the man

that chased the UFO to
United States military,

this same UFO is when
that Commander Underwood

was able to film and
he hasn't talked,

- I like to believe I have a charming personality.
- [laughs]

American can decide
for themselves,

but, also just, you know, we became
friends, we became friends over time

talking about this, I'm just
curious, I wanted to know.

Look, his aircraft
was actively jammed.

What that means is the UFO was
sending a signal to actively jam,

which are tied into
his weapons systems,

that is an act of war
under normal circumstances,

even though this
is highly abnormal.

George, this is your first time
seeing this video, what do you think?

Game changer?

Chad Underwood oozes
credibility, like David Favre,

likes Alex Dietrich,
like Ryan Graves,

these naval aviators are the best
pilots in the world, we trust them,

we trust them to fly these
multimillion dollar planes,

we trust their judgment.

We give them top secret
security clearances,

so when they tell us that
something is amiss up there,

that this is a genuine UFO and
I've never seen anything like it.

I believe them.

Jim, as our clandestine
expert here.

Are you surprised that
Chad came forward?

Yes, actually, I am, given the taboo
associated with reporting UAPs,

he's very brave to do this,
very courageous to do this.

[Josh] Right, because
a lot of pilots,

they see something like this.

The last thing they're
going to do is.

- Talk about it, right?
- Exactly.

That could be damaging
for their career.

It could be a career killer.

Even in this UAP report that was

released last week, it notes

there's still a stigma
attached to this.

Even though the
navy two years ago

changed its policies,
and tried to encourage

pilots to go ahead,

if you see something,
say something.

A lot of them won't do it.

All right. Lots to
think about here.

Let's go to Jessica and Tracy

for a closer look at
the tic tac video.

Thanks Josh.

Tracy, as a former
fighter pilot,

what makes the tic tack
video so compelling?

I think the tic tac video is
interesting because it's not

like anything most
pilots have seen before.

And when you look at
it, it's in one spot

and then kind of pulls away.

But you can see that
he's working really hard

to maintain the lock.

And that suggests that just as
we heard there may have been

some active radar jamming.

And that is definitely something
that's going to get my attention.

Yeah, for sure.

Well, at the end of
the tic tac video,

like you said the
craft zooms off here

kind of to the left.

Is it possible that the
pilot banked to the right

inadvertently and
created his own illusion?

That's a great question.

Actually, if you
look in the center

of the blue line there,

you can see what looks
like the little aircraft,

higher above it.

- Uh-huh.
- Up there, yeah.

We call that the
flight path marker.

It's straight in line with

what we call the horizon line

on either side, and
that's not in a bank.

So, what we're seeing
is that the aircraft

is fairly straight and level,

and that suggests to me
that that object is actually

doing exactly what we think,
it's zooming off on its own.

That was a great explanation.

Obviously I don't know
how to read radar.

So, is there anything else on
this screen that we should be

paying attention to?
What does it mean?

I think an interesting thing
here, you know, we're looking at

infrared technology.

And down in the lower left,
you can see it says WHT.

It's blurry and hard
to see, but that means

we're operating at this moment
what's called a white hot.

If the object is white,
that means it's hot.

That's what we expect to
see from an aircraft because

the engine shows hot,
so it would show white.

Very interesting.
Thanks again, Tracy.

Josh, back to you.

Thanks, Jessica and Tracy.

Coming up, we have got
more incredible information

to share from the
pentagon report

and breathtaking video that
checks all the big boxes.

It is not to be missed.

And stick around as our experts

are drawing ever closer
to their conclusion.

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Welcome back to UFOs
Declassified Live.

Just five days ago, the
intelligence community

and the public at large received

a long-awaited government
confirmation of UFO activity.

I'm joined by our
panel live in Las Vegas

to discuss the headline
making pentagon report.

Okay. Let's go back
in time, Jeremy,

to Roswell, the grandaddy
of all American UFO stories

in 1947.

We've got a 57-year
gap between that

and the accounts that we
see in this pentagon report.

So, why this gap?

I assume there must've been UFO
sightings in that intervening time.

Yeah, that's interesting.
So, the report is going

just from the tic tac
UFO case and then forward

because a lot of the
censored data that they have

and they wanna work
with the military data

is in those years.

But UFOs have been consistent
all the way through.

Why do you think Roswell

continues to capture
our imagination?

Because it did in
the first place.

Because the United
States military admitted

they had a crashed
flying saucer.

They turned it
around the next day.

But there was a moment
they admitted it.

[Josh] George, can we
talk about Area 51?

You were such a key player

in breaking that
story wide open.

What is the connection
between Area 51 and Roswell?

The story of Roswell has
been muddied over the years

and I think on purpose.

The first story came
from the U.S. military.

They said a flying
saucer crashed out there.

Then they changed it to,
it was a weather balloon.

Then they changed it again
to a super-duper double

secret probation
weather balloon.

It was hard to get a good
handle of what was out there.

But if you had a
crashed flying saucer,

if you're trying
to take it apart,

reverse engineer it,
figure out how it works,

where would you take it?

I would say the top of the list

would be area 51
because it has been

the location of choice

for testing all kinds
of top secret platforms.

The U-2, the Black Bird,
the stealth fighter

were all developed out there.

I've interviewed two
dozen witnesses or more

who over the years
worked out there

and said they've seen
something that sure

looks like a flying saucer
that we were taking apart,

to figure out how it
worked, not building it.

Incredible stuff.

I want to pore over
some of the language

in this report with you, Jim.

It says, and I'm quoting,

"Some UAP, maybe, technologies

deployed by China, Russia,

another nation, a

non-governmental entity perhaps.

So, what does a non-governmental

entity constitute?

I was not really sure
what they meant by that.

There's a possibility
they meant either

a terrorist
organization or perhaps

a rogue private corporation.

But in my opinion, I think it's

highly unlikely
that China, Russia,

or a non-governmental
entity is behind UAPs.

Could this be just the case
of an individual, Nick?

I guess I turn to you.

How do we know
these UAPs aren't,

you know, some kid with a drone?

Because I'm sure that's
what a lot of skeptics

would put forward, right?

All the drones we have out there
and we've seen problems with drones

at airports and other places.

Could that be what
people are seeing?

Well, I think drones might explain
some sightings, but not all.

The report says there are
multiple explanations for UFOs.

We know what drones look like.

We know what kind
of heat signatures

some of them give off,
what radar returns.

And this is not drone.

There's something
else at play here.

Right. Drones are not
giving fighter jets

a run for their money typically.

Absolutely. Again, it's
the capability here.

It's running rings around our
best cutting edge technology.

So, if whatever these
are are extraterrestrial,

if there are aliens
out there and they are,

as they would have to be here a
technologically advanced species,

then chances are they
come from what is known as

a Goldilocks planet
where conditions

for life are just right.

With more, here's Jessica

and renowned astrophysicist
and author of Quantum Life,

Dr. Hakeem Oluseyi.

Thank you, Josh.

Dr. O, we know our
universe is vast

and there are more planets
beyond our solar system,

so let's talk about
life on those planets.

To say our universe is
vast is an understatement.

This representation right
here shows galaxies.

We think of galaxies as being

the basic building
blocks of the universe

and there's 2 trillion galaxies

in the observable universe.

Now, each galaxies has on
average 100 billion stars,

so that's 100 billion
trillion stars

that we're talking about.

And what we learned from
the Kepler satellite,

is that star, when they form,

planet formation is a side
effect of star formation.

So, just about every
star has planets.

So, we're talking about
multiples of a hundred billion

trillion when we're
talking about planets.

So that's a lot of opportunity
for life in the universe

and for technological life to
come about in the universe.

That's amazing. Tons
of opportunities there.

So, I know there are different
types of goldilocks planets.

So, let's talk about
the ice covered ones.

What makes it so special?

So, when we look for
life away from earth,

we have a phrase,
and that phrase is,

"Follow the water."

What we see for
ice covered worlds,

like we have right here

we have these in our
own solar system.

Enceladus and Europa, are moons,

that have ice on the surface,

and the ice is miles thick.

But under underneath there's
a liquid water ocean.

And what we know about life,

based on the work of
biologists and astrobiologists

- of the last 20 years...
- Mmm-hmm

is that life starts in the
absence of light and oxygen.

So, life could get started
on a place just like this.

Okay, and so, then what
about earth-like exoplanets?

Yeah. Now we're
getting to planets

- that are more like ourselves, right?
- Yeah.

So we're talking
about rocky worlds.

And these rocky
worlds have a surface.

And on earth's surface, that's
where we have a lot of water.

Now it turns out that one
of the most common type

of earth-like planets is
what we call a super earth.

They're more massive, bigger
and gravity is stronger.

So, there is a life form that

comes into existence there,

it's going to be a lot
stronger and a lot shorter.

So, think dwarf
Incredible Hulks.

That's amazing.

All right, so tell
us then about...

What are habitable zones?

Right, so the habitable zone,

is kind of an old idea.

Because we thought about the
habitable zone as where life may form

and where life may be found.

But like I said, we now know

that life is not formed.

And what this has to do with is

how far away the
planet is from its star

so it can have liquid
water on its surface.

Now...

What this doesn't tell you is
what's the light conditions

on the surface of the star.

So, here on earth something
really special happened.

Whereas most planets

where you're going
to find liquid,

they're going to be
under thick atmospheres

or miles of ice,
or miles of rock.

On earth we have a
transparent atmosphere.

So, we have an ocean,
with early life in it,

you mix it up and
shine energy on it

- for four billion years, what do you get?
- Mmm-hmm.

Eventually, that life
learns to use that light

to create oxygen,

which is deadly to early life,

but it allows and sets the
stage for life like ourselves.

So, a habitable zone

is where you can have
an explosion of life

that can lead to intelligent and
technologically advanced life.

So, someone flipped the
lights on and it's go time.

That's right. After
a few billion years.

After... Yeah.
Give or take, yeah.

Thanks for your time,
Dr. O. Josh, back to you.

Thanks, Jessica and Dr. O.

Now turning from science
to science fiction.

One of the longest running
and popular tv shows

in sci-fi history
was The X-files.

The show's creator, Chris
Carter spoke candidly

about the Pentagon report
and the possibility of

life beyond earth.

People asked me what I believe

in the UFO phenomenon and
alien abduction phenomenon,

and I'm kind of a hybrid
of Mulder and Scully.

Like Mulder I want to believe
like that poster on his wall,

and like Scully, I want
to see the science.

Uh, I'm skeptical by nature.

For me the videos are exciting.

That on modern equipment
and with modern technology.

We are capturing something

that is out there,
and it's behaving

in a strange and
mysterious manner.

This is a really exciting time.

We may or may not learn
what these things are,

but I think it's... recent
studies and recent sightings

have pushed things forward.

I think our reactions to
the UFO videos are healthy.

The pilots, for me,
seem unimpeachable.

What they gathered
from their avionics

or radar seems beyond doubt

that they saw those things.

And that their reactions
to them are real.

[man] Oh! Got him!

[Chris] So the X-Files, and
the subject matter and UFOs

are being some credence that
they might not have had before.

You know, I believe that
we don't have answers.

I believe that we're
searching for answers.

I believe that there are the
possibility of alien life out there.

Like Carl Sagan
who actually said,

you know, "There's
more chance than not."

And now we've discovered
since the '90s

there are these exoplanets
revolving around their own suns.

The chance is even greater now
there is life on these planets.

The truth is out there.
We've asked for your tweets,

photos and footage. Let's
see who answered the call.

Artemis here says, "Do
you think we'll meet

actual aliens in our lifetime?"

Nick, what are your
thoughts on that?

I hope so. I think ours
will be the generation

that makes that discovery
whether it's through

- science or UFOs or both.
- Fantastic.

Asked and answered. Don't
be shy about sending us

your questions using the
#UFOsDeclassifiedLIVE.

Josh, take it away.

Well, coming up, we will be
screening the entire footage

that got the entire
pentagon report rolling.

Plus our experts will debate
the origins of the UAPs

when UFOs Declassified:
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Welcome back to UFOs
Declassified: LIVE.

I'm Josh Gates. Personally,
I have been blown away

by what we've seen so far.

And man, we are just warming
up. There is so much more.

Earlier this year,
the pentagon confirmed

that one of the most intriguing
UFO videos on record,

footage of a mysterious
triangular airborne craft,

sourced by our own Jeremy
Corbell here back in 2019

is indeed authentic.

Check this out. This is
the pyramid-shaped UFO.

All right. Walk me
through this, Jeremy.

- What are we looking at?
- [Jeremy] Sure.

So, George and I
obtained and released,

this is night vision through a night vision
binocular on board of the USS Russell.

There are pyramid-shaped
UFOs, numerous of them.

Three of them were
about 700 feet.

They are slow and
go with the ship.

[Josh] Oh, look at that. It's not just
one object. It's multiple objects there.

[Jeremy] Right. One is
blinking and there's been

a lot of thought about that,
is this just the UFO blinking

or is this reflection
from a surface

and the blinking is
something from the ship.

We don't know. But these
are pyramid-shaped UFOs,

swarming a Navy
warship, USS Russell.

[Josh] Absolutely
incredible footage.

It's just mind bending because
you look at it and you think,

"What am I looking at here?"

[Jeremy] Confirmed by the pentagon
not, only filmed by our military,

but also to be included as
an unknown unidentified.

They're UFOs and
they're admitting it.

Okay, so this footage
gets even crazier

because as amazing as this is,

this footage was taken by the USS
Russell off the coast of San Diego

at the same exact same
time, nearby the USS Omaha

detected its own swarm
of unidentified objects.

Take a look at their radar and
give a listen to the reaction

of the military personnel.
This is amazing.

[man 1] If you can ride a
general that long where we're at.

The number of contacts
you got, speed meters off.

- Yeah.
- Roll that position to us.

Eyes up, eyes up.

[indistinct radio chatter]

781 just sped up to
46 knots, 50 knots,

closing in.

38 knots, what the
[bleep] is that?

- That one's pretty much perfectly 000 relative, right?
- Yeah.

263 in three miles.

55 knots speed.

All right. This just makes my head
hurt because, you know, I have to say

I am a skeptically minded person,
but I look at the pyramid footage

and I think, okay,
that's intriguing.

Then I look at the radar
from the Omaha nearby.

Now I really don't
know what to think.

And it gets even crazier.

I'm going to show you now flair
footage taken from the Omaha.

It's a different view of one of the
UAP involved in the radar swarm.

Give a listen to this.
It is really exciting.

Omaha, across the possibility
to launch kilo ASAP.

We're splashing apparently.

- Keep going, bro.
- [indistinct chatter]

We're making that [bleep].

Yeah, it's coming down.

We got some water up
there, six foot twelves.

Well, it's getting close.

Damn, we have uh, 31 knots
sustained, wind topside, gusts of 40.

- It splashed.
- Splashed. Bearing a range.

- So, it goes in the water.
- Yeah.

It's suspected that it goes into the
water like a transmedian vehicle.

They're not exactly sure,
but they did send out

- a submarine to look for it.
- So walk me through this term

'cause I've heard this
before, a transmedia vehicle.

This means it can be in
the air and underwater.

Right. So something that
can penetrate the space

between air and sea
without disturbance,

without destruction.

It's just remarkable
to see it do that.

Nick, is it possible that what appears
to be an object going into the water here

is some sort of, I don't know,
stealth technology, optical illusion?

Well, I wonder if it isn't
like the old magician's trick,

if doing something
with one hand,

but the real action is
going on in the other.

And, I mean, this
is extraordinary.

But in 2018, the defense
intelligence agency wrote to Congress

about a number of studies being undertaken
under the Pentagon's A-tip program.

And in there were all this advanced
theoretical physical concepts

such as warp drives, worm
holes and invisibility.

And we mentioned this submarine,
they did send a submarine

- down to look for this thing?
- Yes, 'cause understand.

This was a swarm. There were
multiple UFOs across many ships.

And so when they see this one that
goes or appears to go into the water,

they wanted to find the
wreckage of the craft.

I have to say, as
compelling as the report is,

this sequence of this flair
footage, the radar footage,

the night vision, it's
just so interesting.

Okay. And also,
unidentified objects,

they are not just something that
are appearing in the United States.

Up next, we're going to investigate
UAP sightings from around the globe.

Plus, we have got some
phenomenal new footage

from the deck of the Omaha
which checks all the boxes.

And maybe the final piece
of evidence our experts need

to nail down whether
these UAPs are adversary,

extraterrestrial or
something else entirely.

And later, we'll be joined by
none other than the head of NASA.

Welcome back to UFOs
Declassified: LIVE.

I'm your host Josh Gates.

The footage of pyramid-shaped UFOs
may be relatively new to many of us,

but actually pyramid videos have
been around for quite a while.

In fact, our own George Knapp

smuggled some pyramid UFO footage
out of Russia several few years ago.

Let's go to Jessica and the man
himself to talk about it. Jess?

Thanks, Josh. George, let's talk
a look at your pyramid video

- and you can tell me about it.
- Okay.

So what have we got here?

This is a huge pyramid-shaped
object, not triangle,

but pyramid that was shot over
the skies of Latvia in 1968.

It ended up in the
ministry of defense.

Russia's ministry of defense
had giant files on UFOs

that I tried to access
in the early '90s.

You might recall
during the early '90s,

Glasnost, Perestroika, that country
was undergoing a lot of changes

and I thought maybe there's
a window of opportunity

to find out what the
Russians know about UFOs

and also, what the Americans know
about UFOs from the Russians.

And we went over there with
the help of a Russian physicist

who had government contacts.

He put us in touch with ministry of defense
officials and intelligence officials

and they told us about the
biggest UFO study in history.

It was ten-year long study.

The whole Russian
military was part of it.

They had collected tens of thousands
of reports, including videos,

and I was able to get
some of that material,

- classified as it was, and bring it back.
- Very interesting.

I wanted to zoom in on this a little
bit so we can get a better view.

Oh, I need that to go. Ooh.

No, my zoom is not working.

So, how did you manage to
smuggle this out of Russia?

I think I'm gonna
be vague about that

- because someday I might want to go back to Russia.
- [laughs] Nice.

Yeah, but it was a very tense
moment, I'll just put it that way.

But they consider this
to be a genuine UFO

because of some of the
characteristics of how it flew,

even though we don't see
it in this film clip.

But it was part of a
gigantic cache of information

that the ministry of defense
collected over a ten-year period.

- How long ago was this particular footage taken?
- That's 1968.

Latvia which was sort of
part of the USSR back then.

The USSR crumbled and
the Russians took over,

but that was in their files.

So obviously there's
been video documentation

of pyramid-shaped UFOs
for over 50 years.

Why do you think people are only talking
and paying attention about it now?

It's kind of a
combination of events.

You know, there's always something
more important in your life,

the economy, your family,
whatever, you know, politics.

And now we've had such an avalanche
of UFO coverage by main stream media

that it's caught the attention
of the public in a way

that I never thought I
would see in my life.

That's great. Well, right now we're
going to do a side-by-side comparison

of your footage and
the footage from 2019.

So let's pull that up.

So what I think is really
interesting about this

is over here from Latvia, you
kind of have a beveled edge.

It's all by itself and it's
kind of staying perfectly still.

Over here, you've got
multiple shaped UFOs

or multiple triangle-shaped UFOs

as well as the fact
that it's pulsing.

Yeah, this guy, the
pyramid over here

brought his buddies
along with him.

If you notice, if you watch
the footage close enough,

they're not traveling
all at once.

It's not a reflection,
those two different objects

are paced at a different pace than the
main object that we see that's flashing.

This guy came by himself.

Would you say just off
the top of your head,

could they
potentially be related

and this is just a more advanced
version of whatever this was?

Yeah, that's a good thought.

I mean, it was 30 years in between,
so it's possible, 40 years in between,

so it's possible that the same kind of
technology is reflected in those film clips.

Interesting. I'd
say yours holds up.

Thank you very much,
George. Back to you, Josh.

Absolutely incredible stuff.
For the kids watching at home,

don't smuggle UFO
videos out of Russia.

It's a bold move, George.

Look, the fact he was able to smuggle
this footage out proves this next point.

These UAPs, they are
a worldwide concern.

So far we have
focused on sightings

off the Florida and California
coast here in the United States,

but the phenomena extends
all around the globe.

Let's take a look.

[Nick] UFOs are a
global phenomenon.

While the current spotlight
is on the United States,

there is more to this than just
those three U.S. Navy videos.

[man] My gosh.

[man speaking other language]

[Tom] I think when it comes
to UFOs, it's a global issue.

It's a humanity issue. What
I've seen with other countries

is pretty interesting. Every
country for the most part

has their own UFO program.
They're much more open

with their population on
these things than we are.

But we're really kind of
waiting for us to take the lead.

I think it would be safe to
say that most world governments

have encountered this UAP
phenomenon without a doubt.

It appears everywhere.

[Jim] But we can't predict

when they're going to appear,

why they're going to appear

and where they're
going to appear.

But we do know that there
are some governments,

particularly in Brazil,
Argentina, Chile, Peru,

France, the UK, Australia,

all of these countries

have information
on these sightings.

[Keith] It seems
very simple to say.

"Why don't all the countries
of the world cooperate,

be friends,"

and until there is a global

acknowledgment of the threat,

it seems unlikely that there
will be significant cooperation.

Incredibly enlightening stuff.

I think it begs
the question also,

if these UAPs are being
spotted around the world,

does that bolster
the theory that

perhaps they're
extraterrestrials.

Joining us is Nick Pope.

Nick, let me ask you this,
these global sightings,

are they largely similar?

There are similarities, yes.

Um, in shape, in
sudden accelerations,

in the ability to go
through the sound barrier

with no sonic boom.

I mean, this is a
global phenomenon.

Everything I know from
my government work

tells me there are
sightings around the world,

programs usually embedded
in DODs and air forces,

and if anyone says, as
skeptics occasionally do

why aren't there any sightings

in this country or that country,

it's usually because
the politics,

the language, the culture.

The sightings are there, we're
just not hearing about them.

You know, one of the
most mind boggling

international sightings
that I've ever seen

is this sighting from...
from Puerto Rico.

Take a look at this.

We have this incident where we
have this object is being tracked

and it is flying along.

Jeremy, tell us a little bit
about what's going to happen here.

[Jeremy] Well, what you see is
like a trans medium vehicle.

It's a vehicle that goes from
the air through the water

without decelerating at all.

It also at one
point splits in two.

And this was filmed
by the, uh...

Homeland Security was the
original place it was filmed from.

So, it's a pretty astounding
piece of clear footage.

[Josh] This moment where it appears
to beak in two, though right here,

this is really astounding.

The object literally...
It's like a magic trick.

We have this one object
that suddenly becomes

two objects just in
the blink of an eye.

[Jeremy] It was highly studied

and the fact that it
moves through the water

without deceleration
that again shows that

trans medium characteristic
that UFOs are known for.

Because most objects that are
travelling at a high speed,

that are aerial, they hit
the water, it over right?

They slow down, they stop.

There's a huge amount
of drag and friction.

This thing keeps going.

That's right. And that's due most
likely to the propulsion system itself.

Any evidence this footage
could be doctored?

This footage? No.

- [Josh] Do you see any evidence of that George?
- [George] No.

The STU, a really
reputable organization,

they did an analysis of
this over several months,

they studied every frame of it,

they believe it to be legitimate

and they don't
have an explanation

for how one object
splits into two,

and they're both still flying under
some controlled circumstances.

You know, one of the things
here in the Unites States,

historically has been
that our government

has been tight lipped
about UFO activity.

I'm curious, as we talk
about these global sightings,

how is this handled in other
countries around the world?

Most of them seem to follow
the United States model.

Our allies certainly
follow that.

I think the UK takes
its cues from the US.

That they say one
thing behind the scenes

scenes and something
else to the public.

That certainly was
true for Russia.

They told their
people for decades,

that this was a capitalist plot.

Pay no attention to these UFOs.

Behind the scenes
they were studying it,

- for very practical reasons...
- [Josh] Right.

Trying to figure out
how to make their own.

One of the things I saw, I
went to Chile a few years ago,

and they had a program there that was
actually quite open to the public.

They were encouraging
people to come forward,

encouraging pilots
to come forward.

I think whether you're
a believer or skeptic,

just for the sake
of national security

or the sake of anybody
who gets in an airplane,

surely there's got to be real
value to encouraging people

to report these things.

Here's the thing,

we're in a race for
this technology.

United States wants
it. UK wants it.

Russia wants it. China wants it.

And the first nation to
figure this stuff out wins.

All right, well, thank you
everybody, very informative.

Coming up, our panel of experts

will be breaking
down more key videos

as we debate whether
these UAPs are

adversaries, extraterrestrials

or something else entirely.

And later in the show, we
are going to learn about

arguably the most
groundbreaking cosmic discovery

of the century.

Plus we'll hear more from the
producer and creator of The X-Files.

Use the #UFOsDeclassifiedLIVE
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[Josh] Welcome back to
UFOs Declassified Live.

Looking at our twitter poll,

a whopping 89.4% of you

believe that there is life
outside our solar system.

We're winning over
hearts and minds tonight.

Uh, welcome back to the
show. I'm Josh Gates.

We are getting closer
to the final verdict

on the Pentagon's
groundbreaking report.

Bow this next piece of
footage checks a lot of boxes.

In 2015, on the USS
Theodore Roosevelt,

the navy captured what's
come to be known as.

"Go fast" video, off
the coast of Florida.

Check this out.[

[indistinct radio chatter]

[man] Whoa! Got him. [Laughing]

- Whoo-hoo.
- [man 2] Roger...

Are you [bleep] see in this?

What is that?

Can you track? It's
a moving target.

[man 2] No, I took an autotrack.

[man 2] Oh, okay.

Oh, my gosh, dude. Wow.

- [man 2] What is that?
- Look at it fly!

[laughing]

All right. Well, joining
us on the panel now

is former director of the CIA
office of technical service.

Please welcome, Bob
Wallace. How are you, sir?

It's an honor to be here, Josh.

Well, it's an honor
to have you here.

Uh, you know, let's
start with this.

What... what is the likelihood

that a foreign adversary
would be developing

technology like this
without the US knowing it.

Josh, if we were doing our
job, we would know it. Right?

That's... That's the whole
purpose of intelligence.

It's, uh, find out what
the adversary is doing,

find it out soon
and get it to people

who can make the decision.

Now, with respect to
UAPs specifically,

if I could use this
illustration...

Uh, this piece of paper
represents all possible

information about UAPs.

Okay. This dot
represents what we know.

So, I caution us against
being too arrogant.

Wow, amazing.

We really blew our budget on
that visual aid there too.

But I take your point. We
don't know much at this point.

There's a lot we don't know.

Uh, so, okay, we've got
eyewitness testimony.

We've got video.
We've got radar.

We've got movement. We've got
propulsion in this last video.

I mean, this one seems
to check all the boxes.

I turn now to Tracy, our
resident fighter pilot here.

What do you make of
the "Go fast" video?

What jumps out at you?

I think the video is incredible.

As fighter pilots we
think that we're fast,

but this object looks like
it is going super-fast.

So, that's what I
wanna talk about here.

Compare it for me
to a fighter jet,

you know, how difficult is it to
even track an object like this?

Well, you can see it looks like
they're working pretty hard

to get a lock.

And at first glance we might
think that it's many objects

going across that
particular screen.

But when I look closer, it looks
like they're trying to grab it

and then it breaks lock,

and then the radar slews black,

and they try again, breaks
lock and slews back.

And then eventually,
it's able to bind

around the object and you can
hear the Wizzo saying that

he went to auto...
auto track mode

to auto slew onto it.

Right. And I love asking
you this question.

Have you ever seen
anything like this?

I have never seen
anything like this.

I love hearing that, you know,
because you know, you are the one

up there that should be
able to identify this stuff.

And it's so mind bending when we
hear that we don't know what this is.

George, how important
was this video,

to the compiling of
the Pentagon report?

Well, it's another
brick in the wall.

You'll recall the "Tic
Tac" was the first one

that was officially released,

and that the New York
times reported on,

then Gimbal, then Go fast.

And uh, taken altogether,

it certainly paints a picture that
someone out there has got some technology

far beyond what we've got.

All right, I want to
understand this video

a little bit more.

So, let's check in
with Jessica and Dr. O

to bring us up to speed on
propulsion and movement. Jess.

Thanks, Josh. Dr. O, we're
throwing around a lot of words

that aren't everyday terms.

So, let's start with g-force.

For example, traditional
known vehicles versus the UAPs

that we've been seeing,
a la the "Tic Tac."

What is g-force, exactly?

So, when a body... If
you're in a vehicle,

- and it changes direction...
- Yeah.

If it speeds up or slows down,

you will feel what
is like a force.

And that is due to a change
in your state of motion,

and we call that acceleration.

So, we look at a race car.

It has a top speed of
246-miles-per-hour.

But if the car is going
at a constant speed,

it's not accelerating.

So, it doesn't matter how fast
you're going, you don't feel forces.

But if it accelerates,

- and this accelerates 6gs, you feel the force.
- I see.

So, a g is a gravity equivalent.

So a person in this vehicle will
feel six times their own weight

pressing on them.

If you're in a F-117,

it's top speed is
684 miles per hour.

But it's top
acceleration is 9gs.

That means the pilot will feel
nine times their own body weight.

And you can only survive
that a short time.

Really? So, zero to nine,
that's what's gonna hit you.

- That's what you're gonna feel.
- Oh, yeah.

When you're in a car
that goes really fast

you get pushed back
in your seat...

- Yeah.
- That's a g-force.

That's an acceleration
creating a force on your body.

Now we talk about an F-16.

- Mmm-hmm.
- Look at that top speed.

1,500-miles-per-hour.

Much faster than the F-17 but
the same maximum acceleration.

- Okay.
- Right?

So inside your body

your body is designed to
be upright in gravity.

So, that determines
where blood goes.

And so, if you
accelerate too fast

it's going to go where
it's not supposed to.

So, then, how many
gs can the human body

withstand before it can't
withstand it anymore?

It depends. It's a
matter of the g-force

and the amount of time you
experience that g-force.

Mmm-hmm.

So... And it also
depends on your training.

So, a fighter
pilot, for example,

may hit 9 gs over the
course of their career

over and over and over again.

But, you know, regular
people like you and me,

who are untrained...

Well, I could survive it but
the average person couldn't.

Well, I almost passed out
on The Mummy ride at...

- You know, it's fine. I wouldn't make it.
- Might've been fear.

It... it was
definitely that too.

So how does this all
compare with the Tic Tac?

Now, what we have...

If we take these
videos at face value,

and say this is a vehicle,

that's changing
speed this rapidly,

that gives us data.

'Cause look at those g-forces.

- Yeah.
- Five thousand.

No living creature, that we know

that's macroscopic like
ourselves could survive that.

So, that would say that if
we take it at face value,

is there a being inside there,

and if there is, what
is the trick that

- allows them to survive.
- Yeah.

Or maybe it's their drone,
or maybe it's a droid,

- a robot, who know.
- Exactly.

- Interesting. Excellent.
- Thank you.

- So much fun to talk with you Dr. O.
- Yes.

Josh.

Well, thanks very much,
Jessica and Dr. O.

Let's see what our followers on
Twitter have to say at this point.

Uh, HOOV says,

the public deserves
to know the truth.

UFOsDeclassifiedLIVE.

I agree. That's what
we're doing here.

Talking about this report.

And important to know there is actually
a classified version of this report

and I agree with you. The public
does deserve to know what's in it.

Uh, Jenner2112 writes,

"The fact that so many UFOs
are witnessed around military,

maybe they're trying to get
them to stop doing something."

Interesting idea.

That maybe they're
not here to hurt us,

they're here to protect us.

Kind of a Day The Earth
Stood Still point of view.

And then Random Bits says,

"UFOsdeclassifiedlive.
Josh is wearing a suit?

Is he the alien?"

- That's, that's right. You found me out. It's me.
- [crew laugh]

Listen, I wish I could wear
this suit all the time,

uh, but you try crawling through
an Egyptian tomb wearing this.

It's not pretty.

Uh, anyway, be sure to
rocket your tweets our way

using the hashtag
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Coming up we have got more
authenticated UAP video

and I will be speaking,
this is a big one,

with the head of
NASA, Bill Nelson.

Then we'll look at the discovery

that may answer the question,

is there life outside
our solar system?

When UFOs Declassified:
Live continues.

Welcome back to UFOs
Declassified: Live.

I'm Josh Gates. I just found
out we are the number three

trending topic on Twitter.

Please keep those tweets coming.

If we get to number one, they're
gonna let me keep the suit.

Uh, before the break we're
discussing the mind altering

go fast UFO footage taken aboard

a navy jet fighter from
the USS Theodore Roosevelt

off the Florida coast in 2015.

Now, this next UAP
was caught on camera

in the same year from
near the same location.

Check out the motion
of this craft.

This is the Gimbal UFO.

[pilot 1] It is a
[bleep] drone, bro.

[pilot 2] There's a whole
fleet of them. Look on the ASA.

[pilot 1] My gosh!

They're all going
against the wind.

The wind's 120 knots
out of the west.

Look at that thing, dude.

That's not an [inaudible]
though, is it?

[pilot 2] That's not
one of ours, is it?

[pilot 1] Well, if there's a...
[pilot 2] Look at that thing!

It's rotating.

Well, joining Jeremy, George
and Bob on the panel is

- our resident astrophysicist, Dr. O. Good to see you.
- Thank you, sir.

- Bringing some science to the desk.
- That's right.

Okay, let's talk about this,

What's your first thought
upon seeing this Gimbal video?

Well, I'm trained
as a physicist.

So when I see any data, my first
thought is, "I don't believe it."

- [Josh laughs] Skeptical.
- Right. I don't take it at face value.

We have to take the data

and validate it and
then make scientific

measurements that are
actually rigorous.

So I don't have this
data in my possession

and so I can't really
say anything about it

'cause I haven't taken
it through that process.

Do you think we can explain

just looking at it, how this
craft moves and rotates?

You know, it's difficult
to do to disentangle

because you have many
moving things at one time.

You have the moving object.

You have the moving plane or
whatever platform is taking the data.

And quite often if
you're locking on

that means that you have
something else moving separate

from the actual vehicle
that it's mounted on.

So, you have to disentangle all
this stuff and it's complicated.

But if you take it at face value

as I said before,

you see some interesting
aerodynamics.

Absolutely. Now, Jeremy, on
the clip we hear a voice say,

"There's a whole fleet of them."

Now is that just
eyewitness saying that?

Do we have data to back that up?

Yeah, absolutely. But a lot of it is
gonna be classified and not gonna come up.

But I can tell you
with 100% certainty,

and some people have
been exposed to it.

There was a fleet
in front of this.

And, by the way, this
object... Listen to the pilots.

They have got some
of our best sensors.

It's moving against the wind.

It's rotating. You can
hear what they say.

But there were
other objects that

were with the Gimbal and the
Gimbal has unique propulsion

as it goes forward, changes

and starts to reverse
direction in the end.

Bob, any chance what we're
looking at here could be fake,

do you think?

Absolutely, there's a chance.
I think it's a small chance.

Now, this comes from credible
sources, credible sensors.

So, the video itself, I think,

authentic, absolutely.

Now what it means is
a different question.

I'd like to say

I've seen the rabbit come
out of the hat many times.

And is the rabbit in the hat?

It depends where you're
sitting in the audience

to know whether the
rabbit's in the hat or not.

George, how important
was this Gimbal footage

- to the Pentagon report?
- Oh, it was hugely important.

I mean, you know,
like Dr. O said

we don't have a lot of the data.

We don't have the object
itself to examine.

There is signals data
and sensor data that

as Jeremey said we're probably
never gonna get to see.

But what we don't
see in that is wings

or rotors or any kind of
known propulsion system.

We don't see any chemical kind of a
trail coming out of the back of it.

How does that thing stay
up? How does it fly?

All right. Also I think, for me,

just the enthusiasm that you
hear in the pilots' voices.

I mean, they are just agog
looking at this thing.

To me that is really
compelling here as well.

You've just got... You know,
these guys are freaking out.

This is something they
had not seen before.

They were starting to see UFOs on
a daily basis on the east coast.

Cubes. Cubes with
spheres around them.

Things are completely
non-aerodynamic.

This is one representation of
many sightings and encounters.

All right. So speaking of pilots
like we hear in this video,

let's check in with Jessica
and our resident fighter pilot

Tracy LaTourrette for a closer
look at the Gimbal UFO. Jessica?

Thank you, Josh. Tracy,
on the Gimbal footage

there is so much going on with
the numbers and the initials

that it's hard to know
what to actually focus on.

So, what are the most important
elements of this video?

Well, there's... We
could talk all day on

- what we're looking at here.
- Mmm-hmm.

But if you look at
the image itself,

the fact that we're able to
actually lock onto something

tells me that it's not just a
light phenomenon or something.

So, obviously there is
something very interesting there

and obviously it's hot because
we're in black hot mode.

Uh, if you look at the
aspect of the object

it could suggest a tail
aspect of an aircraft.

Although, you know,
that's debatable as well

because it might be shaped a little
bit differently looking at the back.

Okay, so as if it was
traveling away from us.

- Mmm-hmm.
- Understood.

Right, and then, finally, you hear
them talking about the fact that

- it appears to actually rotate.
- Mmm-hmm.

That suggests not only awareness

but gives some indication
of potential intent

because it looks like
it's just observing

and luckily not showing us
any kind of hostile intent.

- So, that's a good thing.
- That's scary.

Well, you always have
to think about that.

- Is this thing trying to kill me?
- Yeah. Well, yeah.

- [Tracy chuckles]
- Yeah. Okay.

Uh, awesome. [Laughs]

That was a good
talk. Awesome, Tracy.

Back to you, Josh.

All right, well, thank
you, Jessica and Tracy.

When we come back, I'll be
speaking with former astronaut,

senators and NASA
administrator, Bill Nelson.

We'll also learn
what 'Oumuamua means.

I'm glad I can pronounce it.

And later, we've
got rare UAP footage

from the deck of the USS Omaha

that may help our panel of
experts reach their verdict.

Adversary, alien or neither?

During the break be sure
to hit us up on Twitter

using the hashtag
ufosdeclassifiedlive.

We are continuing to pour
over the Pentagon report

on unidentified
aerial phenomena.

As the report indicates, there
is not one blanket explanation

for all of them.

And that's why you are watching
UFOs Declassified: Live.

I'm Josh Gates.

At this time we are
honored to be joined by

the current head of NASA.

He has flown in space and previously
served Florida in the senate.

Bill Nelson. Good
to see you, sir.

Hey.

It's great to see you

and I'm always ready
to talk about space.

Well, that's good. I'm glad.

We have a lot to talk about
with the release of this report.

Uh, obviously you've read it.

What do you think is the most
eye-opening aspect of this?

Well, I was briefed on this a
couple years ago in the senate

- armed services committee.
- Mmm-hmm.

And I had a chance to
talk to the navy pilots.

You've seen the video now
a number of times on TV.

They know that
they saw something.

They tracked it. They chased it.

And then all of a sudden it
would move from one location

to another in a split second.

Uh, now we know from
the unclassified report

that there have been over
140 of these sightings

around the globe.

And so from the
pilot's standpoint

they know they saw
something real.

- Right.
- Now we need to find out what It is.

So, that's why I've asked
the NASA scientists,

look at it from a
scientific point of view

and let's see if you
come up with any answers.

And I think that's a good point.

There's an enormous amount of
credibility here in terms of

these pilots. In terms of
the people that witnessed

whatever these objects were.

If you take the
report at face value,

what do you think it says
about national security?

Well, we don't know.

Uh, we don't know
if it's something

out of this world
or if it is, uh,

a person that could... An entity

that could be a potential
adversary here on Earth.

- Right.
- Now, our government is saying

this is not any technology
that we are testing,

uh, therefore we
ought to be concerned.

That's why we need to get
to the bottom of this.

Right. Now a lot of people are
speculating that these UAPs

could be extraterrestrial.

You yourself have
flown into space.

You were a payload specialist
during the shuttle program.

Do you personally believe that there
is extraterrestrial life out there?

Well, let's separate
the question.

Do I believe that
these objects are ETs?

Uh, the answer is I don't know.

- That's why we're asking the questions.
- Right.

Your second question is

do I think that there's life
out there in the universe?

This is a universe that is

13.5 billion years old.

Uh, it is so vast we
cannot even imagine...

Our minds cannot
grasp the size of it.

Do I think that there's

another solar system
in another galaxy

with another sun with planets

revolving around it

that might have a planet
with a habitable atmosphere?

Of course, I do.

Do you think that this
particular report,

which was generated
by the Pentagon,

do you think that it
should be shifted to NASA?

Should NASA have a
permanent responsibility to,

you think, look into these
sightings and to continue

pursuing this question?

No. The Pentagon needs to
continue its defense function.

NASA needs to continue
its scientific function.

And that's exactly
what we're doing.

Terrific. Well, I can't wait
to see what the Webb Telescope

and what NASA has in store next.

Thank you so much for
your time with us today.

I really appreciate it, sir.

- Have a great day.
- All the best.

Well, so far tonight we have focused
on unidentified aerial phenomena.

Right now, though, we're going to
shift our gaze to an identified

interstellar object that
may be an indicator of life

in other solar systems.

This startling
discovery was spotted

by Canadian astronomer
Robert Weryk

from the Haleakala
Observatory on Maui.

And since the object is
the first of its type,

it was named after the
Hawaiian word for scout.

This is 'Oumuamua.

Some of us have actually been
predicting that interstellar objects

would come into
our solar system.

We've kind of been waiting
to see something like this.

[Robert Weryk]
The year was 2017.

I was reviewing detections
from the Pan-STARRS1 telescope

and I found what's now
known as 'Oumuamua.

This comet is very different

than all the comets that
we see on our solar system.

[Sarah Barker] We really expected if
we were to see an interstellar object

that it would look like a comet.

'Oumuamua is at least
five, maybe even ten times

longer than it is wide.

After 'Oumuamua was no longer
visible from ground based telescopes,

we got very accurate positional
information from Hubble.

And that allowed us to discover
this non-gravitational deviation.

'Oumuamua came in
at this crazy angle

and it was moving so fast.

Fifty-five miles per second.

[Robert] 'Oumuamua is some
kind of comet or asteroid.

No one can tell for
sure what 'Oumuamua was.

[Nick Pope] This
could be a probe.

A civilization with millions and
millions of years head start on us

could have built
hundreds of these probes

and just let them loose
throughout the galaxy.

And every now and then one would
drift through a solar system.

And if they spotted an active
transmitting civilization,

then the ship activates.
Something wakes up.

Maybe a message is beamed back

to the aliens' home world.

It says we've discovered
another emerging civilization.

Once that message is received,

then they're going
to come in force.

Hopefully in peace,
but maybe not.

[Sarah] There are plans to
launch a mission into space,

have it just in a stable
orbit just waiting

for the next
interstellar object.

And once they spot it, they'll
just be ready to get there.

[Nick] 'Oumuamua, it's
a little disconcerting

that it got as close as it did
without anyone seeing it coming.

What if we were facing
hostile extraterrestrials?

Or what if this had
just been a rock

but headed directly
for planet Earth?

I mean, 'Oumuamua
should be a wakeup call.

We missed the last one.

Let's not miss the next one.

All right, guys,
I'm here With Dr. O.

So, Dr. O, in your opinion why is
'Oumuamua such an important discovery?

Well, there are certain things
that we figure out in science

but we can't accept as true
until we actually observe it.

For example, we figured out
early in the 20th century

that planet formation is a
side effect of star formation.

But it wasn't until the '90s

that we first saw a planet
outside of our solar system.

Such that we can say,
"Yes, there they are."

So, we have a good
understanding now

of how a solar system is formed.

And what happens is it's
a very chaotic situation.

So where we have four
terrestrial planets today,

there were dozens
of proto planets.

And as they interacted
and collided,

some objects were
thrown into the Sun,

some objects were incorporated
in the planetary bodies.

And some were sent flying
out of our solar system.

How... How?

Like, how do they get...

How are they circling around

and all of a sudden one
decides to just take off?

Yeah, so it has to do with
gravitational interaction.

So, close calls will
change a trajectory.

And if it swings around the
Sun or, say, Jupiter, right?

And under the right circumstances
it can gain enough momentum

to just slingshot right
out of the solar system.

So, we expect that objects
from our solar system

are flying throughout the galaxy

and objects from other solar systems
are also flying throughout the galaxy

and on occasion they may
enter our solar system.

- And that's what 'Oumuamua represents.
- Okay.

Okay, the 'Oumuamua
was actually discovered

using the telescope
that's shown behind us.

That's right.

So, we found 'Oumuamua with
the telescope on Haleakala

- in the Hawaiian island.
- Very well done.

- Yes. Yes, I've been there. It's a cool spot.
- Yeah.

Yeah, and so, the thing
about an object like this

is similar to an asteroid.

So when we look at interstellar
or interplanetary interlopers,

- they come in two main types.
- Mmm-hmm.

Stuff that was once a
part of a planetary body,

so it will be made up of
metal or stone or rocky.

And stuff that never was.

So that's like comets or what we call
carbonaceous chondrite, um, asteroids.

And so 'Oumuamua appeared
to be a rocky body.

Most of the astronomers thought
that perhaps it would be an icy body

but there was no
evidence of that.

But you can... You see it has a
shape here. It's long and thin.

- Mmm-hmm.
- So what we do, we observe these things.

Now remember, the
way physics works,

if this object comes into our
solar system from a long distance,

it's like it fell toward the Sun
from an interstellar distance.

- Yeah.
- So it's moving so fast

that you can only
get so much data.

And one of the important pieces
of data we call a light curve.

Let's just look at its
brightness over time.

So if you imagine a
bowling ball, a bowling pin

flying through space
and tumbling, right?

When you're seeing the
long side, it looks bright.

When you're seeing the
short end, it looks dim.

So, you can reconstruct
the shape of objects

based on how they reflect light.

And also, based on the
colors that they reflect,

you can figure out what
it's made of to some degree.

You're so smart, oh, my gosh.

- Okay. Um...
- [laughs]

What other discoveries

point to the possibility
of life on other planets?

Well, so, here is the big

- controversial analysis that was done.
- Uh-huh.

So, as different astronomers
try to figure out

what is this made of,

an astronomer from Harvard,

uh, and his collaborators
performed a study

where they claimed
that it was way thinner

than what most of us
read from the data.

And so, the conclusion was, "Oh,
it looks something like a sail."

Now, what would that be?

And so, this astronomer
just speculated

that perhaps it is a light sail
from some alien civilization.

Now, most astronomers do not
accept that interpretation.

I mean, that is
a... That is a...

- That is a leap.
- That is a leap.

- That is a leap. Okay.
- It is a giant leap, yes, yes.

But continuing with
what your comment was,

so most don't accept
necessarily that.

That's right. So, you know,
there are some phrase that like,

you know, great claims require great
evidence or something like that.

The evidence just isn't there.

'Oumuamua remains a mystery.

Interesting. Okay, so what is
about 'Oumuamua's trajectory

that made people
raise their eyebrows?

Oh, that is everything.

So you look, for
example, at the planets,

there are these nice elliptical
orbits that are almost circular,

but 'Oumuamua did
something different.

It traced out a geometric figure
that we called a hyperbola.

And that is like
an unbound orbit.

And that told us it is not from
our solar system necessarily.

Right? But the other thing
that was really interesting

- is the laws of physics work really, really well.
- Mmm-hmm.

So, we can predict the
trajectories, right?

And so, if it was a rock, this
is the expected trajectory.

But it did something different.

- Yeah. It shocked you guys.
- Now that's not unusual.

- Yeah.
- It shocked us, right?

It's not as weird
as it may sound.

'Cause two things will change
the motion of an object.

One is, sunlight actually
applies a pressure

and air what's called
the solar winds.

So that could change
the trajectory.

And also when objects
get near the Sun,

if they have any ices,

those ices would do
what we call outgassing.

And that creates a
force on the body

and changes its trajectory from
a purely ballistic trajectory.

Awesome. All right. Well,
speaking of outgassing,

back to you, Josh.

- Oh, unbelievable, Jess.
- [Jessica laughs]

Jess, I could have you back
in the jungles tomorrow.

[Jessica] Oh, no! I'm sorry.

When we come back,
our panel of experts

rate their top UAP sightings.

Which footage checks all
of the boxes for them?

And later, we'll hear from
some Hollywood heavy hitters

about whether they believe
in extraterrestrials,

When UFOs Declassified:
Live returns.

Welcome back to UFOs
Declassified: Live.

I'm Josh Gates, and I
am thrilled to be joined

by our panel of
experts, Jeremy Corbell,

George Knapp and Nick Pope.

And we are all here
because of this.

We are discussing
the Pentagon report

that just dropped five days ago.

And one of the really
interesting take aways

for me in this report are these
different buckets they use

to categorize the UAPs or UFOs.

So those categories
are airborne clutter,

natural atmospheric phenomena, stuff
that's just naturally occurring,

uh, USG or U.S. government, uh,

foreign adversary
systems and other.

So let's talk about other
or natural occurrences.

Jeremy, have you ever looked
at a video or seen a UAP

and then later realized you'd
misidentified something.

Well, all the time people
misidentify things.

And the whole point is something is
unidentified until it's identified.

Don't jump to conclusions.

Right. George, where do you
think that your Pyramid UFO video

would fall in these buckets?

They would fall into the
place where I get my mail,

- into other. That's where I live.
- [Josh laughs]

I mean, do they look aerodynamic

to you if you're
gonna build something?

Some kind of a drone,
an earthly drone.

Would you make it Pyramid
shaped? I wouldn't.

[Josh] Exactly. Now, Nick, looking
at these different categories

which is more, you
know, concerning?

- Foreign adversary systems or other?
- Other.

It's a little word but it's
a scary word in this context.

You can pick up the phone and talk
to your adversary through diplomacy.

We can't talk to
these people if...

Who are whatever they
are. We don't know.

Personally, I would go
with airborne clutter,

but I'm afraid of birds.

Uh, okay, listen, based on these
incredible videos that we saw tonight,

let's talk about your top
UAP sightings and why.

Let's just go rapid
fire down the line here.

What about for you, Jeremy?

My favorite is 1989 Bob Lazar
right here in Las Vegas, Nevada.

But after what
we've seen tonight,

it's the cases that
I've worked on.

So the USS Omaha and all the
corroborative sensor data

and information
and visual evidence

that George and I have been
able to provide to the public

makes it one of the most robust
cases we've ever had with UFOs.

Right. 'Cause it's not
just one piece of footage.

You've got night vision,
you've got radar,

you've got FLIR, it's
kind of the whole package.

And you have now footage
from the deck of the Omaha.

Exactly, okay. So,
George, what about you?

For me it's the Tic Tac.

I think it's the most
important UFO in history.

Because of what it is
meant to where we are now.

I mean, the credibility
of those witnesses,

the pilots, Dave
Fravor and others,

they've gone before congress with the
help of two former intelligence officials

Luis Elizondo and Chris Mellon.

Who gave up government service
to push this ball down the field.

That video is what
sold that story.

It got The New York
Times to cover it,

60 Minutes to cover it,

and it was the reason that
we have a UAP task force.

Certainly changed the game.

Absolutely. And, Nick
Pope, what about you?

I'm gearing for Gimbal.

When these normally
unflappable pilots get excited,

I get excited, too.

But look, there are a lot of
UFO videos on the Internet.

But what makes these really stand
out, and Gimbal's part of this,

is that the Department of Defense
have put it on their own website

and issued a press release
to say it's genuine.

So, we've got the
provenance of it.

I'm with you. The Gimbal video
for me is really the most

the most intriguing just because
of how these unflappable pilots,

these guys that normally have
this right stuff attitude,

they are just freaking out
for lack of a better term

about they're
encountering up there.

There's something about that
that just makes it so compelling.

All right, so let's
check in with Jessica

and our ever expanding
Twitter feed.

Thank you, Josh. Here's what's
happening over on social.

Bring it up. All right.
Joseph writes, [reading].

Jeremy, you want
to take that one?

Yeah, I think we can handle.
We know we can handle.

We have a right to
know, a need to know

and I feel a duty to find
out the truth about UFOs.

All right, thanks, Jeremy
and thanks, Joseph.

Keep sending your clips and comments
in using the #UFOsDeclassifedLIVE.

All right. Well, next up,
we're going to dig deep

into our controversial
history with UFOs.

Plus, we have that gripping footage
from the deck of the USS Omaha

when UFOs Declassified:
LIVE returns.

You're watching UFOs Declassified:
LIVE. I'm Josh Gates.

As the pentagon report
indicates, the public in general

has been hesitant to disclose UAP
sightings because of the stigma

associated with
UFO eye witnesses.

But research shows that these
UAP sightings have been going on

for years and
years. Take a look.

[Nick Pope] People think that
with these US navy sightings,

some people think this
is new, it's not new.

It's been going on
since the dawn of time.

Myths, legends, these
things, whatever they are,

have been seen
throughout history.

[Jim Semivan] After World War
II, the world was very different,

and we had exploded a nuclear
bomb over Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

That changed everything.

Now, people start seeing
unidentified flying objects

and they're coming
over military bases

and we don't know
what to do about it.

[Nick] One of the central pieces
to the UFO back story is Roswell.

Something crashed in
the New Mexico Desert.

From that moment on,
two things happened.

Firstly the U.S. government
knew that we're not alone,

and secondly, a vast
conspiracy emerged

to cover this truth up.

Believers say alien spacecraft.

Skeptics say weather balloon.

Whatever happened at Roswell,

it's now so embedded in people's
awareness as part of pop culture

and continues to fire people's
interest and imagination.

And maybe what happened at
Roswell was the start of all this,

at least the start
in the modern era.

[Keith Melton] In 1953, the CIA
created the Robertson panel.

It said that there was no
direct threat from UFOs.

But most important, they said
the real danger wasn't from UFOs,

but it was from thousands
of UFO sightings

would overwhelm our
reporting capabilities

and mask a soviet air attack.

And as a result, they made
a concerted effort to debunk

and demystify UFOs

and any people
associated with it.

If people watch closely,
they'll notice we tend to use

the phrase UAP and not UFO.

It's just a way of
getting rid of the stigma

that comes with the term
UFO, and it's just a way,

this is really important, to get
the senior stakeholder engagement

from within government, the military
and the intelligence community.

Well, joining Nick
Pope on our panel,

our former CIA
officer, Jim Semivan

and intelligence
historian, Keith Melton.

- Welcome to both of you.
- [both] Thank you.

Okay, so, you know, when we talk
about the history of UFO sightings,

they may well go back
into pre-history.

But I think most Americans think of
Roswell as the beginning of it all.

Why?

Well, actually the first major UFO
incident took place one month earlier.

- Before Roswell?
- Before.

When a private pilot flying
near Mount Raniere, Washington,

observed nine flying discs
in formation traveling

at speeds between
Mach 2 and Mach 3.

The next day, it made
nationwide headlines.

And one newspaper coined
the term "flying saucers."

- That's where it all started.
- It started there.

At least in our popular culture.

Why do you think Roswell
gets the glory as it were?

It has become popularized
certainly after 1970.

But from 1947 to 1970, very
little was written about it.

Let's talk about area 51 and how
that fits into the Roswell story.

There is no direct connection

between Roswell in 1947
and area 51 in 1955.

It didn't even begin construction
until August of 1955.

And yet, they're always
thought of in the same breath.

In the context that if
there were technology,

foreign adversarial technology that
would likely have been the place.

But actually at the time, it would have
probably gone to Patterson air force base.

It would have been a much more
likely scenario in that theory.

One of the things I found,
Jim, interesting in the package

is you mentioned that the bombings in
World War II of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

really coincide with the beginnings
of a lot of these UFO reports.

Do you think there is an actual
connection between these events?

Yeah, I think so. In 1945, a
squadron of Hellcat Fighters

were trying to intercept
a UFO that was hovering

over a han ford plutonium production
facility in Washington state.

Now, they did this
over three nights.

They went after these
UFOs over three nights.

And obviously didn't catch them.

But this occurred seven months
before the bombs went off,

before the atomic bombs went
off in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

And what this indicates to me is

that these UAPs were interested
in our nuclear technology

at the very beginning
of the nuclear age.

One of the things I read that sounded
either outlandish or terrifying or both,

I don't know, is that some
former air force personnel

testified not just
that UAPs exist,

but that they have the capability
to neutralize nuclear weapons.

Is there any evidence
of that really?

Yes. And allegedly.

But there are a few instances
where UAPs were seen

over ICBM sites and that they
were allegedly interfering

with their launch activity.

Now this happened in Russia too,

it happened numerous times in Russia
actually, so we have seen this before.

Nick, one of the things
that is curious here is

we have talked in this
country about UFOs,

certainly in popular
culture for a long time.

But look at what we have now.

We've got this official
pentagon report.

Do you think the release
of this report changes

the perception in the
culture around UFOs?

Completely. I think it
was regarded as fringe.

It's now main stream. People
thought about it in terms

of science fiction
and conspiracy theory.

They're now framing it correctly as
defense and national security issue.

So it's completely changed
the narrative, yes.

Do you think that when
people read in this report

that 143 out of 144 of these
sightings are unexplained,

that they should be worried?

Yeah, I think it's like if you
can't explain that many of them,

well, go back and take
another look. Could do better.

Yeah, so you think people should
be nervous by this to some extent?

They should. If there's
anything in our skies,

particularly with
these technologies,

then absolutely, we
must be concerned.

And Congress is concerned. Hence
the interest, continuing interest.

- This report is just the beginning.
- All right.

Thank you very much. We're
gonna take a break here.

When we return, we have got that must-see
footage from the deck of the USS Omaha

and it is almost time
to bang the gavel

and find out what the verdict is
from our experts, adversaries,

aliens, neither.

And don't forget to share your
thoughts on UAPs on Twitter

using the #UFOsDeclassifiedLIVE.

We'll be right back.

[Josh] Looking at our poll, when
asked, "What's inside area 51?"

Looks like a pretty tight race

between an ET spaceship
and military equipment.

Welcome back to UFOs
Declassified: LIVE.

I'm Josh Gates along
with UAP/UFO experts,

Jeremy Corbell, Jim
Semivan and Nick Pope.

Now, as promised, we
have brand-new footage

from the swarming event
above the USS Omaha.

Get ready for this. We've already seen
incredible radar and flir imagery.

Now, we have a brand-new angle
on this same historic event.

Take a look.

All right, Jeremy,
let's talk about this.

What are we seeing
in this footage?

[Jeremy] Right, so you're seeing
corroborative video evidence.

All the other videos that
George Knapp and I have put out,

they've been confirmed

by the pentagon as being
true unidentified UFOs.

Part of a study, what
you're seeing here

is video footage
from the USS Omaha.

You see the lights, they're lit
up. That's really important.

It's the first time you're
seeing footage of this.

[Josh] And so, how long
did this event go on for?

[Jeremy] This is actually
over a number of days

where it came to a highlight
on the 15th of July, 2019.

[Josh] So, we see these lights.

We can see some blinking here. I know
we have this flair and radar also,

but now we do know
this isn't an aircraft?

How do we know we're not
seeing a helicopter hovering?

Right, so this is well studied
by our United States military.

It's part of the UAPTF task force,
like, investigation into this.

This is a confirmed
UFO sighting.

They don't know where they landed. They
don't know where they took off from.

This is a true UFO
case with great data.

There were 14 of these
things at one point

around the USS Omaha,
completely surrounding it.

They pop on and off radar over
a period of several hours.

That one was recorded
on the thermal images

that travel along with
the ship for an hour.

Earlier I asked you what your
favorite video from tonight is,

anybody want to
change their answers?

I mean, how much of a game changer
do you think this video is?

Altogether, this
video is so important

because again, it supports
an entire event series

as one of the most well-documented
UFO cases of all time now.

And so, you know, taking
all that evidence together,

it does seem really
compelling, doesn't it?

- It is absolutely compelling.
- So, okay.

You know, George, you've been at the
forefront of this field for years,

what's your reaction
to this video?

Well, it's important because you have three
different forms of evidence to document it.

And I presume there are
other cases like that,

that they are censored
information that the pentagon has

that is too sensitive to
release to us, to the public.

It is classified
for a good reason.

As it was told to me by
an intelligence official,

you can't tell your friends
without telling your enemies.

So, there are good reasons for
keeping some of this secret.

But this clearly is
a pretty solid case.

Nick, how seriously should
this incident be taken?

Very seriously. Something
is toying with us.

It's like playing cat
and mouse with us.

And I know some of us with
governmental backgrounds

get accused of pushing
the threat narrative here.

But come on, you've got to
say when these sorts of things

get close to our
U.S. military assets,

whether they're aircraft carrier,
destroyers, maybe jets, whatever they are.

That has got to be seen
as a potential threat.

Okay. We're going to
take a break here,

but you're not going to want
to miss what's coming up.

Our panelists will be
delivering their final verdict,

adversary, extraterrestrial
or neither.

Please keep launching your tweets
our way with #UFOsDeclassifiedLIVE.

More to come after this.

We are back with more
UFOs Declassified: LIVE.

I'm Josh Gates. For most
of us, our only exposure

to the idea of extraterrestrial
life has come from television

and movies from The Twilight
Zone to Independence Day.

So, how does Hollywood
compare to the real deal?

Hollywood has always been
a teller of sci-fi stories.

I think for entertaining
the audience about UFOs

and I think UFO movies play into our
great ignorance of the world around us.

[Barry] One of the things
that's always been out there,

did we create interest in
UFOs or the fact that people

were interested in those things,

did we take advantage and
create what our vision

of what those images
would look like?

[Nick] There is an
interesting conspiracy theory

that some Hollywood
movies are actually part

of a government campaign
to acclimatize people

to an extraterrestrial reality.

Hollywood has had a
huge impact in terms

of how we conceptualize
extraterrestrial life forms

intermingling with
life on earth.

I have met people that I
truly believe could be aliens.

When we would
scout Men in Black,

we would drive around New
York and look out the window

and go, alien, alien. It's
possible they're here.

[Jonathan] Hollywood created the look
and the sound of UFOs and flying saucers.

But it's really the movies of
Hollywood starting in the 1950s

that give us the definitive
image of those flying saucers.

And it's impact on
our perception of UFOs

has been tremendous, probably
bigger than any other media.

If used correctly, Hollywood
is an incredible platform

to enlighten people.

I think it will make people want

to work on it, study
it, understand it,

get people really
interested and excited

about dealing with UFOs that are
more than just a craft in the sky.

Hollywood has actually
produced much better CGI video

than the Navy pilots have.

That's cause for some
question in itself is that,

are we too now saturated
with video CGI images

and has this now made us less
likely to believe what we see?

Joining Nick Pope and I on the
panel is our own Jessica Chobot.

- Welcome to the big desk, Jess.
- I'm so stoked to be here.

Good to have you here.

Okay, let's talk movies. I know you
are a major pop culture and movie buff,

by which I mean a huge nerd.

- Yes.
- What is the best

extraterrestrial alien movie
ever made in your opinion?

Ever made. Well, I've got
a lot that I like a lot,

but I would have
to say They Live.

- Oh, They Live?
- Yeah, yeah.

John Carpenter. Amazing
special effects.

- Questionable acting.
- I don't think so.

- Come on.
- It's a classic.

It is a classic.
It is a classic.

Nick Pope, what about for you?

- Arrival.
- Yeah.

Because I think it speaks
to a lot of the issues

people are thinking about right
now with this report to Congress.

I mean, it's not just about aliens.
It's about us and our response.

Do we respond with hope or fear,
with the hand of friendship

- or guns and bombs?
- That's right.

I have to say it's kind
of an impossible question.

There are so many
great alien movies.

How about Alien or the greatest
sequel of all time, Aliens.

I thought you were
going to say Prometheus.

And I was gonna be
like, "You gotta leave!"

- Not Prometheus, but the other ones.
- [laughs]

I mean for me personally,
when I was a kid,

I used to love really old sci-fi, I used
to love The Day the Earth Stood Still,

Forbidden Planet,

I was a huge fan of
Twilight Zone, the TV series

the reruns of that
when I was a kid.

And I have to say, you know, The
Monsters Are Due on Maple Street

and Nightmare at 20,000 Feet, Will
the Real Martian Please Stand Up?

Those old, kind of, you
know, Cold War era stories

that were also, again,
speaking to people's fears.

That was the stuff that got me into
science fiction and into this topic.

Because there is something
about extraterrestrials

that's also very human.
Does that make sense, Nick?

Yes, it does. We look out but
at the same time, we look in.

It's not just about aliens but it's
about us, who are we as a species?

How would we respond if we
find out that we're not alone?

You know, one of the things
that you mention in the piece,

Nick, is that some people
believe that Hollywood,

you know, is part of a kind
of conspiracy to acclimate us

to the possibility of an
extraterrestrial arrival.

I'm not sure I put
much stock in that.

- Do you think that's true?
- No.

Not really to
acclimate us to that

or even indoctrinate us
to say they're a threat.

Bur look, I think that
there are so many movies.

Some with good aliens,
some with bad aliens

that it's a funny
indoctrination campaign

if we're getting all
these mixed messages.

Can I jump in really
quick though and say

it's not the first time Hollywood
worked with the government

to pull the wool over
people's eyes. So who knows?

I have no idea what
you're talking about.

- Argo.
- Oh, Argo.

I thought you were going moon
landing. I was getting very worried.

- No, no, no.
- Don't go crazy on me here.

I'm talking about other
times they made deals

with the U.S. to try
to accomplish things.

- But not that.
- Not that.

If this was a
Hollywood conspiracy,

all movies would be E.T. right,
they would all be warm and fuzzy.

We wouldn't have Species.

Or all the other
way to ourselves.

That's right. That's exactly
right. We'd be terrified by that.

We're going to take a break. A pleasure
as always talking to both of you.

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And after the break, I'll
be speaking with the man

who is largely responsible for
initiating the pentagon report,

former senate majority leader
Harry Reid will be joining us.

And you won't believe
what he has to say.

And our panel will
reach their verdict

when UFOs Declassified:
LIVE returns.

Welcome back to UFOs
Declassified: LIVE.

I'm Josh Gates. As
you know by now,

information on UAPs became
declassified this week

when the pentagon UFO
report became public.

Right now, we're going
to speak to the man

who many call the man the
god father of this report,

former governor and senate
majority leader Harry Reid.

Thank you for
joining us, Senator.

Really my pleasure.

Look, I think a lot of
Americans were pretty surprised

to wake up a few days ago to see the
pentagon put out an official report on UFOs.

When you got the ball
rolling on this in 2007,

did you think it would lead
to a public report like this?

I didn't give it
much thought frankly.

I was just trying to show that
the occurrences of these UFOs

was not something that was a
figment of someone's imagination.

They actually took place.

And as we know now, we spent $22
million of the government's money

and we proved that these
are actual sightings

that people had for
a long, long time.

So, I didn't know if they
had cut out the report

the report frankly that they came out
with is pretty sparse, pretty slim.

And I would hope that
it is not one and done.

I think if we're going
to do a good job on this,

we need to make sure the government is
involved on it on a continuous basis.

And this slim, slim
report is not good enough.

What do you think American
should take away from this report

or what do you find
most interesting in it?

Well, I'm glad the
government is acknowledging

that there's something that
needs to be looked into.

My concern is it was
just so weak in facts.

If anybody reads this,
they won't know much more

after reading it than
before they started.

And look, the report
doesn't specifically point

to an extraterrestrial
origin for these sightings.

Do you think it exonerates foreign
players though, China or Russia?

Could these be, you know, high-tech
objects from other countries?

- I don't think we can eliminate anything.
- Right.

I think we should
have an open mind.

My personal feeling is I doubt that
it is China or Russia or France.

But if it is, that's
the way it is.

I just think technologically
they're not that far ahead of us.

In fact, I don't think
they're ahead of us at all.

And so, where do you think
we go from here, senator?

I believe that we must
continue working on this.

We, uh...

We don't know what they are.

But for us, now we have to walk
away from with this slim report.

It would not be in keeping with,

what I believe is good
scientific evidence.

We need to continue

not worried about

conspiracy theories
and little green men.

We have to worry
about... science.

What are they? We
know they exist.

So, let's continue working

scientifically to figure
out what the hell they are.

Absolutely.

Senator, a pleasure
speaking with you.

Thanks very much for your time.

My pleasure.

Well, great to get
Senator Reid's input,

and if nothing else,
the Pentagon report

has formalized a number of goals

for future UAP Research.

The Pentagon says they plan
to standardize the reporting,

consolidate the data
and deepen the analysis.

They intend to expand
their collection of data,

and increase the investments
in Research and Development.

Okay. So, Jim, let
me start with you.

Do you think that's true?

Do you think that
Congress will continue

funding UAP Research
like the report says?

Oh, yeah. I think the
cat's out of the bag.

And as long as UAPs are
buzzing nuclear sites,

military installations
and carrier strike groups,

you're going to have
money for research.

So you think this is just
the beginning of this?

I think this is just
the beginning, yes.

Okay, so...

Time has come, moment of truth,

everybody here on the panel,

one of you is an alien.

No, that's not what
we're talking about.

Given what we have
learned tonight.

Experts, I can't wait to hear
your take in all of this.

Do you believe that these
UAPs are extraterrestrials?

Do you believe that
they're adversaries,

foreign players of some kind
or something else entirely?

We'll start with my
good friend, Nick Pope.

What do you think man?

I'd love it to be aliens,

But I occasionally wonder,

if it isn't something
more bizarre,

something for which we have
neither the words nor concept.

So, uh, you think it could
be something else entirely?

Absolutely.

Alright. Jim, what about you?

I believe it's a
non-human technology.

- Really?
- And I wish I knew who owns it.

Wow, that's incredible
to hear from you.

You know, our intelligence
clandestine guy here.

I mean, that's
kind of remarkable,

shocking for me to hear,

- but that's what you believe.
- Yes.

That it's something other?

It's something
other, no question.

And you, my good man,
what do you think, George?

Well, given that
their technology,

that advanced technology
that is still far beyond,

what we can do for, has been
around at least 74 years,

I believe that it is non-human,

that could be non-human source.

That could mean
extra-terrestrial,

it could mean inter-dimensional

it could mean
something more exotic.

Ultra-terrestrial,
something as Nick said,

we don't know how to explain

but something lived
here for a long time.

We need to investigate
the unexplained,

not explain the uninvestigated,

and that's gonna take
a permanent program.

Alright, we're going
to need another special

to talk about
ultra-terrestrials.

Im... I'm... Okay, good.

And that brings
me to you, Jeremy.

What do you think
about all this?

What's your final analysis here?

Some UFOs represents
a technology

that outperform, outmaneuver, and outpace
our greatest war planes and weaponry.

Some UFOs are not
made by modern humans.

And the United
States Government,

has in their possession

some of these craft.

You believe that for sure?

I am certain of it.

Okay, let's go over
.to the big wall.

Jessica Chobot, what do
you make of all this?

Well, I'm not a scientist
so I have no problem,

just going into the
deep end of the pool.

Full alien.

I know it, Jess.
You're a believer.

- You're a true believer.
- Let's do this.

Let's do this, people.

Alright and standing next
to the true believer,

the voice of science,
Dr. O, what do you think?

Are you going to bring
us down to Earth here?

Oh, I think it's
all in the name.

Whether you call
it a UAP or a UFO,

it starts with U, which
stands for Unknown,

and that's where I stand.

And, so I think
we need more data.

Do you think there
is a possibility that

there is an extra-terrestrial
explanation for this?

I don't lean that direction
for this phenomenon,

but there are astrophysicists
who think there may be life

on our planet that we don't
even recognize as life

because we don't have a
broad enough definition.

So, I do think that the evidence

tells us that life is ubiquitous

throughout our universe,

but I think that intelligent,
technologically advanced life

is exceedingly rare.

Alright so, one of the
things we have about

in this report is
what's not in it.

Right? There is a classified
version of this report.

Do you think we're going
to see more of this?

Do you think there's going to be
additional material? Declassified here?

Oh, there's certainly
going to be more material.

George and I are going
to make sure of that.

Oh, there's certainly
going to be more material.

George and I are going
to make sure of that.

Whether It's released officially
or not, we don't know.

But it's coming.

And do you think that what wasn't
included in this public report is,

for lack of a better
word, juicy, Nick?

I'm sure. I believe there will be
a lot of technological information.

For example, about the satellite imagery
from DNI John Radcliffe mentioned.

So, that's something
to look for.

But for sure this is the beginning
of a journey here, this report.

This is not then end
of the conversation.

We've been told UFOs are
real and they require study.

That's what that report says.

All right, so much more to come.

Yes.

I have to thAnk all of you. What an
absolutely amazing journey tonight.

What a panel. To some, this
report represents an awakening,

The government finally addressing these
UAPs that have been around for years.

And this represents a commitment to more
research and investigation, a new day.

To others the report is a good
first step, let's call it,

but that more transparency is
needed to understand the truth.

And I'm sure that others still
will remain firmly skeptical.

I know we've got some skeptics
tonight who are probably unmoved

by these 143 unexplained events.

As for me personally, I
just wish we had more time

because I have a
lot more questions.

I want to thank Jessica Chobot
and all of our esteemed guests

this evening for what has
been an amazing conversation.

For UFOs Declassified:
LIVE, I'm Josh Gates.

Good night from Las Vegas.