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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,306 --> 00:00:08,070 In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:08,141 --> 00:00:12,009 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:12,079 --> 00:00:13,910 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:16,780 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:16,850 --> 00:00:18,510 These are their stories. 6 00:00:27,059 --> 00:00:28,323 You Okay? 7 00:00:29,663 --> 00:00:31,187 Doctor's ready. 8 00:00:37,003 --> 00:00:39,165 The procedure's scheduled for 2:00. 9 00:00:39,238 --> 00:00:41,606 They'll remove the feeding tube. 10 00:00:41,674 --> 00:00:42,904 If you have any questions... 11 00:00:42,975 --> 00:00:44,341 No. 12 00:00:50,683 --> 00:00:52,048 Sweetheart. 13 00:00:53,786 --> 00:00:55,881 This is what I promised you. 14 00:00:59,058 --> 00:01:00,253 Remember? 15 00:01:13,105 --> 00:01:14,471 I love you. 16 00:01:30,189 --> 00:01:32,317 He's here, he's out here! 17 00:01:32,391 --> 00:01:33,450 Murderer! 18 00:01:33,527 --> 00:01:35,016 Who made you God? 19 00:01:44,638 --> 00:01:46,503 Robert, call me later. 20 00:02:12,765 --> 00:02:14,530 We got one DOA, four injured. 21 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,501 Of the four injured, none of them are likely. 22 00:02:16,569 --> 00:02:18,698 Lucky they were on the doorstep of the E.R. 23 00:02:18,771 --> 00:02:21,604 The DOA, the driver, was a Robert Barrows. 24 00:02:21,675 --> 00:02:24,302 Detective, where's the mobile command center? 25 00:02:24,377 --> 00:02:25,377 On its way, Lieutenant. 26 00:02:25,444 --> 00:02:27,689 Well, until it's here or we're sure there's not another bomb 27 00:02:27,713 --> 00:02:31,741 around here somewhere, everyone is to stay off cell phones and radios. 28 00:02:31,818 --> 00:02:35,721 Well, we don't have to look too far for a motive. Seems pretty obvious. 29 00:02:35,788 --> 00:02:37,120 To anyone watching the news. 30 00:02:37,189 --> 00:02:40,182 Karen Barrows has been on a feeding tube for 11 years. 31 00:02:40,259 --> 00:02:41,920 Her husband tried to get it removed. 32 00:02:41,995 --> 00:02:43,506 The tube was supposed to be taken out today. 33 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:46,021 We got at least a dozen organized protest groups. 34 00:02:46,098 --> 00:02:50,002 Citizens for Life, Disabled Rights, Christians Unified. 35 00:02:50,069 --> 00:02:52,069 Not counting the people who came here on their own, 36 00:02:52,104 --> 00:02:53,216 which is probably most of them. 37 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,038 No shortage of suspects. 38 00:02:55,108 --> 00:02:57,406 Just a couple of hundred, give or take. 39 00:03:48,328 --> 00:03:50,626 Fragments taken from the chassis of the car. 40 00:03:50,697 --> 00:03:53,165 Looks like a pipe bomb, home workshop model. 41 00:03:53,233 --> 00:03:55,429 It didn't go off when Barrows started the car? 42 00:03:55,502 --> 00:03:56,663 Remote detonator. 43 00:03:56,736 --> 00:03:58,704 You can download plans off the internet 44 00:03:58,771 --> 00:04:02,037 and buy the electronics from 100 different places. 45 00:04:02,109 --> 00:04:03,652 Which means the killer was watching this 46 00:04:03,676 --> 00:04:05,668 whole thing happen from some place nearby. 47 00:04:05,746 --> 00:04:09,306 Nature of the detonator, they'd have had to be within 200 yards. 48 00:04:09,382 --> 00:04:13,250 Well, we'll get a couple of guys from the 11th Squad to help with the canvas 49 00:04:13,319 --> 00:04:15,151 and pull the hospital surveillance tapes. 50 00:04:15,222 --> 00:04:18,714 And these news crews, we need to check out what they shot. 51 00:04:18,792 --> 00:04:20,452 Now, when was this bomb planted? 52 00:04:20,526 --> 00:04:22,461 It didn't happen around all these people. 53 00:04:22,896 --> 00:04:25,694 We'll find out where Barrows kept his car. 54 00:04:29,035 --> 00:04:30,434 Robert parked it on the street. 55 00:04:31,004 --> 00:04:32,004 Lot of access. 56 00:04:32,072 --> 00:04:34,302 You'd think the police would have checked it. 57 00:04:34,374 --> 00:04:36,637 They gave him a police escort to the hospital. 58 00:04:36,709 --> 00:04:39,076 They put up bullet-proof curtains, 59 00:04:39,146 --> 00:04:40,807 they even gave him a police radio. 60 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,043 Has the car been out of your possession recently? 61 00:04:43,115 --> 00:04:46,278 Three days ago it was serviced at my cousin's shop in Queens. 62 00:04:46,353 --> 00:04:47,752 But he wouldn't plant a bomb. 63 00:04:47,821 --> 00:04:50,084 Well, has anyone shown up to threaten him personally? 64 00:04:50,923 --> 00:04:52,221 Besides her parents? 65 00:04:52,625 --> 00:04:54,252 Karen's parents? You haven't seen them? 66 00:04:54,326 --> 00:04:56,091 They went on the news. 67 00:04:56,163 --> 00:04:57,995 They called him a monster. 68 00:04:58,064 --> 00:05:00,896 They called me a whore for having kids with him. 69 00:05:01,668 --> 00:05:05,968 When I met him, she had been like that for six years. 70 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,172 Robert dedicated his life to her. 71 00:05:09,608 --> 00:05:11,509 He fought to get money for her care. 72 00:05:11,577 --> 00:05:13,807 Fought how? A malpractice suit. 73 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,915 It took him four years to get a settlement. 74 00:05:17,651 --> 00:05:19,379 How much money are we talking about? 75 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,747 Three point two million. 76 00:05:24,757 --> 00:05:26,384 And who will control this money now? 77 00:05:27,060 --> 00:05:28,221 Guess. 78 00:05:29,596 --> 00:05:31,564 Of course we'll control the trust. 79 00:05:31,630 --> 00:05:33,963 That's how it should've been since the settlement. 80 00:05:34,033 --> 00:05:37,095 But this isn't about money, at least not for us. 81 00:05:37,170 --> 00:05:39,867 You weren't too pleased with the way Robert handled things. 82 00:05:39,939 --> 00:05:42,533 Robert was spending Karen's money on his girlfriend, 83 00:05:42,608 --> 00:05:45,340 buying her clothes, redoing their apartment. 84 00:05:45,411 --> 00:05:47,846 Why do you think he wanted Karen dead? 85 00:05:47,913 --> 00:05:50,007 It's been a hard couple of days. 86 00:05:50,082 --> 00:05:52,312 Good to meet you. Reverend Harlan Dwyre. 87 00:05:52,384 --> 00:05:53,384 How do you do? 88 00:05:53,452 --> 00:05:54,663 Yeah, I've seen you on the news. 89 00:05:54,687 --> 00:05:57,452 Harlan's been a crucial advocate in our fight, 90 00:05:57,524 --> 00:05:58,957 and a good friend. 91 00:05:59,024 --> 00:06:01,187 Were any of you at the hospital when Robert was killed? 92 00:06:01,261 --> 00:06:03,093 We don't go when Robert's there. 93 00:06:03,163 --> 00:06:04,163 It's too painful. 94 00:06:04,230 --> 00:06:05,459 Well, when you are there, 95 00:06:05,531 --> 00:06:07,677 do you ever hear anybody say anything about hurting him? 96 00:06:07,701 --> 00:06:10,466 No, and we would never encourage that. 97 00:06:10,536 --> 00:06:12,528 You've been pretty harsh towards him on the news. 98 00:06:12,605 --> 00:06:14,266 He's been trying to kill our child. 99 00:06:14,341 --> 00:06:15,740 I'm sure that they understand. 100 00:06:15,809 --> 00:06:17,606 And she's still in danger. 101 00:06:17,677 --> 00:06:18,917 The police should be helping us 102 00:06:18,978 --> 00:06:21,310 instead of making us feel like we've done something wrong. 103 00:06:21,380 --> 00:06:23,610 Excuse me. 104 00:06:23,983 --> 00:06:25,382 It's Steven. 105 00:06:26,485 --> 00:06:28,180 Hey, any news? 106 00:06:29,656 --> 00:06:30,656 Yes, I'll tell them. 107 00:06:31,625 --> 00:06:34,117 The court has agreed to hear Karen's petition. 108 00:06:34,194 --> 00:06:35,957 Until then, the feeding tube stays in. 109 00:06:36,028 --> 00:06:38,759 Oh, that's good news. Such good news. 110 00:06:40,266 --> 00:06:41,961 If you don't mind me asking, who's Steven? 111 00:06:42,636 --> 00:06:43,762 Karen's brother. 112 00:06:44,571 --> 00:06:45,629 Where does he live? 113 00:06:47,307 --> 00:06:50,641 I was getting gas downtown on my way to the hospital. 114 00:06:50,709 --> 00:06:54,009 And I caught something on the radio about a car bomb. 115 00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:56,343 Oh, yeah? What time was that? 116 00:06:57,350 --> 00:06:59,613 Uh, it was just before 11:00. 117 00:06:59,685 --> 00:07:00,812 They said it just happened. 118 00:07:00,887 --> 00:07:03,048 Did you happen to get a receipt for that gas? 119 00:07:04,223 --> 00:07:05,713 Come on, guys. 120 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:08,728 You want me to look for it? 121 00:07:08,795 --> 00:07:10,387 That'd be great. 122 00:07:11,298 --> 00:07:12,298 All right. 123 00:07:14,466 --> 00:07:16,697 You guys questioned my parents. 124 00:07:17,269 --> 00:07:19,329 Couple of 60-year-old retirees, 125 00:07:19,406 --> 00:07:21,204 they seem like the car-bombing type to you? 126 00:07:21,274 --> 00:07:22,651 We're just gathering information, sir. 127 00:07:22,675 --> 00:07:26,134 Don't confuse us with the protesters down at the hospital. 128 00:07:26,211 --> 00:07:28,009 They've never met Karen. 129 00:07:28,081 --> 00:07:30,345 Hey, did any of them ever contact you? 130 00:07:30,417 --> 00:07:32,545 No, and I don't go near them. 131 00:07:33,386 --> 00:07:35,444 The reason some idiot planted a bomb... 132 00:07:35,521 --> 00:07:37,923 To them, Karen stands for something. 133 00:07:37,990 --> 00:07:40,653 To me, she's my little sister. 134 00:07:41,761 --> 00:07:43,194 I just want her alive. 135 00:07:44,564 --> 00:07:45,894 Here you go. 136 00:07:47,901 --> 00:07:49,665 And talk to the guy driving that fuel tanker. 137 00:07:49,735 --> 00:07:52,831 He almost hit my car on the way out of the station. 138 00:07:52,906 --> 00:07:54,805 The brother's gas station receipt checks out. 139 00:07:54,874 --> 00:07:56,918 And there was a fuel tanker there when he said there was. 140 00:07:56,942 --> 00:08:00,310 What about the cousin who serviced Barrows' car three days ago? 141 00:08:00,379 --> 00:08:03,144 There's no record. And no pro-life involvement that we could find. 142 00:08:03,216 --> 00:08:05,810 Does the bomb squad know exactly where it was planted? 143 00:08:05,884 --> 00:08:08,319 It was on the chassis underneath the driver's seat. 144 00:08:08,387 --> 00:08:09,531 So the cousin would have noticed it 145 00:08:09,555 --> 00:08:11,182 when he changed the transmission fluid. 146 00:08:11,257 --> 00:08:13,588 Meaning our bomb was planted in the last three days. 147 00:08:13,660 --> 00:08:15,127 That's our window. 148 00:08:15,194 --> 00:08:17,959 Lieutenant, this is Detective Garcia with Intel. 149 00:08:18,031 --> 00:08:19,307 He's assigned to threat assessment. 150 00:08:19,331 --> 00:08:20,709 He's helping us sort out this hate mail. 151 00:08:20,733 --> 00:08:22,701 Nice to meet you. Anything? 152 00:08:22,769 --> 00:08:24,180 You remember when the Women's Center on 30th Street 153 00:08:24,204 --> 00:08:25,262 was bombed last year? 154 00:08:25,338 --> 00:08:27,305 Yeah, in the middle of the night. 155 00:08:27,374 --> 00:08:30,536 This is a copy of the letter the center got two days before it happened. 156 00:08:30,610 --> 00:08:33,544 "I am the instrument of God's vengeance." 157 00:08:33,613 --> 00:08:35,206 Guy couldn't spell vengeance. 158 00:08:36,115 --> 00:08:39,677 Robert Barrows got this four days ago. Never opened it. 159 00:08:39,753 --> 00:08:40,947 "L am the instrument of..." 160 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:42,182 It's the same phrase. 161 00:08:42,254 --> 00:08:44,245 Same font, same layout. 162 00:08:46,125 --> 00:08:47,923 Who caught this case? 163 00:08:51,898 --> 00:08:53,024 What a heartbreaker. 164 00:08:53,099 --> 00:08:55,260 It was a ground ball then it all fell apart. 165 00:08:55,335 --> 00:08:56,335 Who was the suspect? 166 00:08:56,403 --> 00:08:59,770 Walter Byrd, some pro-life nut-job. Too perfect, right? 167 00:08:59,838 --> 00:09:02,535 Witness saw him hanging around the clinic at 4:00 a.m. 168 00:09:02,609 --> 00:09:04,907 A minute later, the whole storefront blows off. 169 00:09:04,977 --> 00:09:05,977 How come it didn't stick? 170 00:09:06,046 --> 00:09:07,809 Well, he had no trace explosives on him, 171 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,475 we got no prints, no one saw him plant the bomb. 172 00:09:10,549 --> 00:09:13,542 So we cut him loose. A week later, he's gone. 173 00:09:13,620 --> 00:09:15,110 No forwarding address. Nothing. 174 00:09:15,187 --> 00:09:16,245 What type device was it? 175 00:09:17,923 --> 00:09:18,923 First page. 176 00:09:21,126 --> 00:09:23,027 "Pipe bomb, bleach-based explosive," 177 00:09:23,096 --> 00:09:24,860 "potassium nitrate, remote detonator." 178 00:09:24,931 --> 00:09:26,211 Sounds like it could be our boy. 179 00:09:26,265 --> 00:09:27,306 Well, we've got his photo, 180 00:09:27,332 --> 00:09:30,052 so if he was hanging out with the protesters at the hospital, then... 181 00:09:30,102 --> 00:09:31,229 We'll check it out. 182 00:09:31,770 --> 00:09:35,764 Karen feels the presence of those who love her, she feels joy and pain. 183 00:09:35,841 --> 00:09:38,674 She is not in a vegetative state. She is cognizant. 184 00:09:38,745 --> 00:09:39,745 Excuse me. Pardon me. 185 00:09:39,812 --> 00:09:41,456 Karen can make hand signals to communicate. 186 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,676 Yo! Yo! Come here. 187 00:09:45,217 --> 00:09:47,346 Seems like you've been around here for a few days. 188 00:09:47,419 --> 00:09:49,183 Have you seen this man? 189 00:09:49,254 --> 00:09:50,254 This about the car bomb? 190 00:09:50,322 --> 00:09:51,984 Yes, it is. What do you know about it? 191 00:09:52,057 --> 00:09:53,235 Someone had to stop Robert Barrows, 192 00:09:53,259 --> 00:09:54,503 but that wasn't the way to do it. 193 00:09:54,527 --> 00:09:55,937 I'm not asking how it should've been done. 194 00:09:55,961 --> 00:09:59,523 All I'm asking you is this, have you seen this man or not? 195 00:10:01,033 --> 00:10:02,159 Don't think so. 196 00:10:02,235 --> 00:10:03,498 Anybody? 197 00:10:03,570 --> 00:10:05,095 Definitely. 198 00:10:05,772 --> 00:10:07,171 He was handing out flyers. 199 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,072 When was this? About a week ago. 200 00:10:09,142 --> 00:10:10,336 I saw him a couple of times. 201 00:10:10,409 --> 00:10:12,105 Did you take a flyer? 202 00:10:12,177 --> 00:10:15,671 He's pro-life, which sort of bothers me 'cause I'm pro-choice. 203 00:10:15,748 --> 00:10:17,546 Wait, do you know where I could find one? 204 00:10:17,616 --> 00:10:20,779 Maybe on the ground? They were orange with black lettering. 205 00:10:22,221 --> 00:10:23,279 Hey. 206 00:10:24,591 --> 00:10:26,423 I got two witnesses who saw him with these. 207 00:10:26,493 --> 00:10:27,493 This it? 208 00:10:27,793 --> 00:10:28,793 I think so. 209 00:10:29,394 --> 00:10:30,919 Check this out. 210 00:10:32,197 --> 00:10:34,222 P.O. box to send donations. 211 00:10:38,437 --> 00:10:40,668 Whatever he's done, I can't help you. 212 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:43,437 He gave your apartment as a billing address. 213 00:10:43,509 --> 00:10:44,509 Billing address? 214 00:10:44,576 --> 00:10:46,671 Yeah. For a P.O. box. 215 00:10:46,745 --> 00:10:48,213 Do you recognize this? 216 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,679 No, I don't. 217 00:10:50,316 --> 00:10:53,047 He stayed over a couple of times last winter. 218 00:10:53,119 --> 00:10:54,813 And sometimes he gets mail here. 219 00:10:54,888 --> 00:10:56,219 Does he ever come and get it? 220 00:10:56,288 --> 00:10:57,586 Not for awhile. 221 00:10:57,657 --> 00:11:00,557 Anyway, I threw it all out. I don't want him here. 222 00:11:00,860 --> 00:11:02,554 Why, wasn't he an ideal house guest? 223 00:11:02,629 --> 00:11:04,393 He damned near caught my curtains on fire 224 00:11:04,464 --> 00:11:06,057 soldering something in the back room. 225 00:11:07,866 --> 00:11:08,890 Soldering what? 226 00:11:08,967 --> 00:11:11,129 Who knows? I threw it all out. 227 00:11:11,203 --> 00:11:14,434 And when he called, I told him he was not staying here again. 228 00:11:15,008 --> 00:11:16,217 Do you know where he called from? 229 00:11:16,241 --> 00:11:18,938 Didn't ask. I heard kids in the background. 230 00:11:19,011 --> 00:11:20,446 Does Walter have kids? 231 00:11:20,513 --> 00:11:21,947 None I know of. 232 00:11:22,014 --> 00:11:24,916 His ex has kids. Maybe they're back together. 233 00:11:26,985 --> 00:11:29,250 You know? I don't think anyone's at home. 234 00:11:29,322 --> 00:11:31,221 Well, I hear something. 235 00:11:37,897 --> 00:11:39,695 Well, hello there. What's your name? 236 00:11:42,201 --> 00:11:43,692 Is Walter home? 237 00:11:45,238 --> 00:11:46,315 Back door. Got it. I'll go around. 238 00:11:46,338 --> 00:11:48,239 Come out here, honey. That's it. 239 00:11:54,746 --> 00:11:57,044 Police! I heard you go in there. 240 00:12:01,153 --> 00:12:04,384 Step out slowly. I want to see your hands! 241 00:12:04,456 --> 00:12:05,686 I'm coming out. 242 00:12:12,197 --> 00:12:13,722 Put it out! Put it out! 243 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,695 Help! Help! 244 00:12:19,972 --> 00:12:21,168 You okay? Yeah. 245 00:12:25,544 --> 00:12:27,740 Easy, easy. Easy! 246 00:12:29,948 --> 00:12:31,712 I lit a cigarette, which was stupid 247 00:12:31,783 --> 00:12:33,294 'cause I had paint thinner on the table, 248 00:12:33,318 --> 00:12:35,754 and a second later, there's flames everywhere. 249 00:12:35,822 --> 00:12:37,346 I was glad to see this guy. 250 00:12:37,423 --> 00:12:39,447 Don't give us that bull, man. 251 00:12:39,524 --> 00:12:41,118 You were trying to torch the place. 252 00:12:41,193 --> 00:12:42,313 Why would I want to do that? 253 00:12:42,361 --> 00:12:44,729 Because you had more than paint thinner in that shed. 254 00:12:44,797 --> 00:12:47,629 You had potassium nitrate, aluminum fillings, blasting caps. 255 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:50,465 And a bag of rusty nails like the ones you used in the car bomb, 256 00:12:50,536 --> 00:12:52,629 like the ones they pulled out of Robert Barrows. 257 00:12:52,705 --> 00:12:56,163 Look, I'm not saying I don't make bombs. I do. But, uh... 258 00:12:56,241 --> 00:12:57,368 I use them to go fishing. 259 00:12:57,442 --> 00:12:58,568 Fishing? 260 00:12:58,644 --> 00:13:01,256 Yeah. You throw one in the water and all the fish float to the top. 261 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,280 You heard of that. 262 00:13:02,749 --> 00:13:04,692 Anyway, you said you were at the hospital four days ago. 263 00:13:04,716 --> 00:13:05,756 What were you doing there? 264 00:13:05,784 --> 00:13:08,618 It's wrong what's happening to that girl. I was speaking out. 265 00:13:08,687 --> 00:13:09,965 Speaking to who? Who'd you talk to? 266 00:13:09,989 --> 00:13:11,081 Lots of people. 267 00:13:11,157 --> 00:13:12,955 We're going to dump your ex-wife's phones. 268 00:13:13,025 --> 00:13:14,789 We're going to run down every call. 269 00:13:14,860 --> 00:13:15,860 Go ahead. 270 00:13:15,927 --> 00:13:18,898 And the lab's going to know if the explosive used in the car bomb 271 00:13:18,965 --> 00:13:20,865 matches the batch we found in your shed. 272 00:13:20,932 --> 00:13:24,028 You know, somebody broke into the shed last week, 273 00:13:24,102 --> 00:13:25,222 took a whole bunch of stuff. 274 00:13:27,639 --> 00:13:29,335 Are you trying to amuse us, 275 00:13:29,908 --> 00:13:32,639 or do you really think we're that stupid? 276 00:13:37,850 --> 00:13:39,113 Byrd's ex-wife backs his alibi. 277 00:13:39,184 --> 00:13:40,674 He spent the last four days with her. 278 00:13:40,753 --> 00:13:42,413 Ex or no, still doesn't mean much. 279 00:13:42,488 --> 00:13:43,488 It goes beyond her. 280 00:13:43,556 --> 00:13:45,990 At the time of the explosion, she and Byrd were firing guns 281 00:13:46,058 --> 00:13:48,892 at a range in Arden Heights, and the range confirms it. 282 00:13:48,961 --> 00:13:50,394 Interesting couple. 283 00:13:50,462 --> 00:13:53,023 Where's the lab on the chemicals in Byrd's shed? 284 00:13:53,099 --> 00:13:55,192 It matches the explosives used at the hospital. 285 00:13:55,268 --> 00:13:56,599 Any prints on the bomb fragment? 286 00:13:56,668 --> 00:13:58,636 No, and Crime Scene Unit is not hopeful. 287 00:13:58,705 --> 00:14:00,365 What about the ex-wife's phone records? 288 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,908 So far, just friends and family. 289 00:14:01,974 --> 00:14:03,818 We don't think Byrd used the phone at the house. 290 00:14:03,842 --> 00:14:05,868 Well, someone had to detonate that bomb. 291 00:14:05,945 --> 00:14:07,105 Who was he working with? 292 00:14:07,179 --> 00:14:09,477 It could be somebody from the Calvary Hill Foundation. 293 00:14:09,948 --> 00:14:10,948 Religious group. 294 00:14:11,017 --> 00:14:13,509 Last year, Byrd took an inciting to riot collar 295 00:14:13,586 --> 00:14:17,351 at an anti-evolution rally in Tulsa sponsored by Calvary Hill. 296 00:14:17,423 --> 00:14:20,393 I'm sure they'll be very talkative. Good luck. 297 00:14:23,395 --> 00:14:25,023 Of course we'd like to be of help 298 00:14:25,097 --> 00:14:26,759 but we don't discuss our membership. 299 00:14:26,832 --> 00:14:28,961 Even if they're a homicidal bomber? 300 00:14:29,034 --> 00:14:31,025 Having our literature doesn't make him a member. 301 00:14:31,104 --> 00:14:32,868 And that kind of violent activity 302 00:14:32,938 --> 00:14:34,303 has no place in our ideology. 303 00:14:34,374 --> 00:14:36,138 Well, except for that riot in Tulsa 304 00:14:36,209 --> 00:14:39,110 where there were 16 arrests made outside a school board meeting. 305 00:14:39,177 --> 00:14:42,375 We didn't bring the batons and tear gas, Detective. 306 00:14:42,447 --> 00:14:44,677 If Walter Byrd is a member of our organization 307 00:14:44,750 --> 00:14:47,118 and he did this bombing, it's purely coincidental. 308 00:14:47,186 --> 00:14:48,186 Joe. 309 00:14:49,020 --> 00:14:50,980 Is the Reverend Dwyre a member of your foundation? 310 00:14:51,758 --> 00:14:53,020 A supporter. 311 00:14:56,395 --> 00:14:58,193 Was he also in Tulsa with you? 312 00:14:58,264 --> 00:15:00,129 He spoke at the rally. 313 00:15:01,067 --> 00:15:03,365 Oh, now you think he's involved? 314 00:15:04,770 --> 00:15:08,798 Heated emotional situations, like Karen's, like in Tulsa, 315 00:15:08,875 --> 00:15:12,504 they bring out passionate people, also the extreme. 316 00:15:12,979 --> 00:15:14,071 Like Walter Byrd? 317 00:15:14,147 --> 00:15:15,147 Unfortunately. 318 00:15:15,214 --> 00:15:16,213 How well do you know him? 319 00:15:16,282 --> 00:15:18,341 Well, we've just been at the same rallies. 320 00:15:18,418 --> 00:15:21,443 You just happen to cross paths with a bomb maker at a rally? 321 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,547 Our center supports religious and ethical causes. 322 00:15:24,624 --> 00:15:27,957 Now, he may believe in the same causes, but I deplore his tactics. 323 00:15:28,027 --> 00:15:29,571 His explosions put your face on the news. 324 00:15:29,595 --> 00:15:31,407 I mean, you're getting a lot of air time out of this. 325 00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:33,923 Well, I have a feeling that will end soon. 326 00:15:34,567 --> 00:15:35,966 Do you know the name Mitch Randolph? 327 00:15:36,469 --> 00:15:37,959 Mitch Randolph... 328 00:15:38,037 --> 00:15:40,903 ls he the guy who blew up those four abortion clinics in Oregon? 329 00:15:40,972 --> 00:15:42,850 Half the country's been looking for him for two years. 330 00:15:42,875 --> 00:15:44,138 He's always one step ahead. 331 00:15:44,210 --> 00:15:47,645 Randolph's anonymous blog says that he was in New York recently. 332 00:15:47,712 --> 00:15:49,340 That goes for a lot of other people. 333 00:15:49,414 --> 00:15:52,942 He wrote he was supporting violent action to save Karen's life 334 00:15:53,019 --> 00:15:55,147 and he was here to offer support and knowledge. 335 00:15:55,221 --> 00:15:57,188 And you think he's going to take responsibility? 336 00:15:57,255 --> 00:15:58,417 Yes, I do. 337 00:15:59,524 --> 00:16:02,721 And this Mitch Randolph idea just came to you now, did it? 338 00:16:04,297 --> 00:16:07,528 In my work, it's not a name you drop lightly. 339 00:16:12,104 --> 00:16:13,730 Mitch Randolph is a hero. 340 00:16:13,806 --> 00:16:15,740 Willing to put his ass on the line, you know? 341 00:16:15,807 --> 00:16:19,244 And that you think we'd help you find him is incomprehensible. 342 00:16:19,946 --> 00:16:21,538 Look, you guys are pro-life, right? 343 00:16:21,614 --> 00:16:22,979 Vehemently. 344 00:16:23,482 --> 00:16:25,474 Our murder victim has two kids. 345 00:16:25,551 --> 00:16:27,678 So why aren't you so pro-life about him? 346 00:16:27,753 --> 00:16:29,585 A man with a gun to his wife's head 347 00:16:29,654 --> 00:16:32,385 waiting for a godless court system to pull the trigger? 348 00:16:32,457 --> 00:16:33,584 Sorry. 349 00:16:33,658 --> 00:16:35,626 We don't know where Mitch Randolph is 350 00:16:35,695 --> 00:16:37,389 and we wouldn't tell you if we did. 351 00:16:37,462 --> 00:16:39,294 You're gonna want to watch the attitude. 352 00:16:39,365 --> 00:16:41,595 We can subpoena your computers' files, 353 00:16:41,667 --> 00:16:43,465 track where he blogged from. 354 00:16:43,536 --> 00:16:45,264 Do you really want all those hassles? 355 00:16:45,571 --> 00:16:46,629 You mean, again? 356 00:16:46,706 --> 00:16:47,831 What are you talking about? 357 00:16:47,907 --> 00:16:50,638 Before you harass people doing God's work, 358 00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:53,201 try talking to your pals at the FBI. 359 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,245 When the government is run by fools who condone murder 360 00:16:57,316 --> 00:16:59,044 and the bloodshed of innocents, 361 00:16:59,118 --> 00:17:02,985 it is the responsibility of the people to respond in kind. 362 00:17:04,323 --> 00:17:08,520 It was posted on the Save Our Homeland website as a kind of morale video. 363 00:17:08,794 --> 00:17:09,971 Did you figure out where it was shot? 364 00:17:09,996 --> 00:17:11,673 We matched the wallpaper and window curtains 365 00:17:11,696 --> 00:17:14,165 to the Bandicott Hotel in mid-town three weeks ago. 366 00:17:14,232 --> 00:17:16,326 What was on the Bandicott's surveillance cameras? 367 00:17:16,402 --> 00:17:17,961 Randolph strolling through the lobby. 368 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:19,060 We need to see that. 369 00:17:19,137 --> 00:17:20,333 There's nothing there. 370 00:17:20,405 --> 00:17:23,603 And neither us or ATF have anything connecting him to this car bombing. 371 00:17:23,675 --> 00:17:26,873 Just him promoting violence on a website. 372 00:17:26,945 --> 00:17:28,471 Generic wacko rambling. 373 00:17:29,582 --> 00:17:30,925 What about the fact he's in the city? 374 00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:33,782 Two weeks ago we had him allegedly spotted in Montana, 375 00:17:33,853 --> 00:17:36,230 and then a tip came in he might be hiding out in South Carolina 376 00:17:36,255 --> 00:17:38,383 with the survivalist dirt farmers. 377 00:17:38,457 --> 00:17:39,548 We don't know where he is. 378 00:17:39,925 --> 00:17:43,362 We still want to see the Bandicott surveillance videos. 379 00:17:45,830 --> 00:17:47,959 There. That's him. 380 00:17:52,605 --> 00:17:54,130 He waits for the elevator. 381 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,805 Elevator doors open. 382 00:17:57,375 --> 00:17:58,740 He gets in. 383 00:17:59,377 --> 00:18:00,846 Door's close. 384 00:18:01,713 --> 00:18:02,909 Can we see it again? 385 00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:17,429 All right. 386 00:18:18,029 --> 00:18:19,122 No, let it keep playing. 387 00:18:25,070 --> 00:18:27,539 Who's the guy in the back doorway? 388 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,773 That looks like Walter Byrd. 389 00:18:38,351 --> 00:18:40,819 We're starting to see a bigger picture here, Mr. Byrd. 390 00:18:40,885 --> 00:18:43,287 Maybe you weren't the only one involved in this bombing. 391 00:18:43,355 --> 00:18:44,824 I wasn't involved at all. 392 00:18:46,358 --> 00:18:47,826 We want to move forward. 393 00:18:47,893 --> 00:18:49,861 Trade up. You familiar with the concept? 394 00:18:49,929 --> 00:18:51,453 Lam. What's the offer? 395 00:18:51,931 --> 00:18:53,421 Twenty years. 396 00:18:53,499 --> 00:18:55,092 Eight, max. 397 00:18:55,166 --> 00:18:57,328 Eighteen concurrent with the clinic bombing 398 00:18:57,403 --> 00:18:59,302 after a full allocution on both. 399 00:18:59,372 --> 00:19:00,395 No. 400 00:19:02,407 --> 00:19:03,407 No. 401 00:19:04,175 --> 00:19:06,644 I mean, you people got no concept of believing in a cause. 402 00:19:07,113 --> 00:19:09,605 Conviction on one and you do at least 25 years. 403 00:19:09,682 --> 00:19:11,480 Fifty if you get consecutive sentences. 404 00:19:12,852 --> 00:19:15,821 There are people in the world who truly care about human life. 405 00:19:16,955 --> 00:19:18,236 Ten seconds and the deal is gone. 406 00:19:18,289 --> 00:19:21,123 People who think that killing is abhorrent. 407 00:19:22,127 --> 00:19:24,825 Anathema. Against the will of God. 408 00:19:25,631 --> 00:19:27,258 Do you even believe in God, Miss Borgia? 409 00:19:27,666 --> 00:19:29,101 I do. Goodbye. 410 00:19:29,734 --> 00:19:30,734 Walter. 411 00:19:34,606 --> 00:19:36,836 What do you want to know about the Reverend? 412 00:19:39,144 --> 00:19:40,407 Reverend? 413 00:19:43,516 --> 00:19:44,676 Dwyre. 414 00:19:46,251 --> 00:19:48,618 He says Dwyre contracted him to build a bomb. 415 00:19:48,688 --> 00:19:50,432 Byrd delivered it to the Reverend's hotel room. 416 00:19:50,455 --> 00:19:52,390 Three days later Robert Barrows blew up. 417 00:19:52,458 --> 00:19:54,586 And where does Mitch Randolph fit in? 418 00:19:54,660 --> 00:19:57,095 Byrd says he doesn't know him, he never met him. 419 00:19:57,163 --> 00:19:59,597 How does he explain the Bandicott surveillance tape? 420 00:19:59,664 --> 00:20:02,134 He says it was a setup orchestrated by Dwyre. 421 00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:03,201 HOW? 422 00:20:03,269 --> 00:20:06,329 Dwyer told Byrd to meet him at the hotel, then he never showed. 423 00:20:06,404 --> 00:20:08,463 Knowing Byrd and Randolph would cross paths 424 00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:10,066 and we'd look at Byrd for the bombing. 425 00:20:10,142 --> 00:20:11,142 That's what he says. 426 00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:13,440 And Byrd wasn't just blowing smoke? 427 00:20:13,511 --> 00:20:16,310 All the specifics point to Byrd and Dwyre. 428 00:20:18,116 --> 00:20:20,711 Did you find any calls between Byrd and the Reverend? 429 00:20:20,786 --> 00:20:21,786 None. 430 00:20:21,854 --> 00:20:23,832 Well, they could've had contact outside the hospital. 431 00:20:23,855 --> 00:20:25,983 Is there anything that Byrd knew about Dwyre 432 00:20:26,057 --> 00:20:27,423 that he couldn't have just made up? 433 00:20:27,492 --> 00:20:28,982 Something we can confirm. 434 00:20:29,060 --> 00:20:30,186 Is that ayes? 435 00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:32,698 Okay, thanks. 436 00:20:32,964 --> 00:20:35,023 Byrd told you that he delivered the bomb to Dwyre 437 00:20:35,101 --> 00:20:36,932 at the Leister Inn, room 1602? 438 00:20:37,001 --> 00:20:38,935 Yeah. Dwyre's in 1602. 439 00:20:39,003 --> 00:20:40,403 Pick him up. 440 00:20:40,940 --> 00:20:42,999 Everyone? I have some wonderful news. 441 00:20:43,075 --> 00:20:44,906 The Lamar family was just informed 442 00:20:44,977 --> 00:20:47,105 that the court has granted our motion 443 00:20:47,179 --> 00:20:50,479 to vacate prior rulings to terminate Karen's life. 444 00:20:53,719 --> 00:20:56,244 Now, her feeding tube will remain in place 445 00:20:56,322 --> 00:21:00,019 and we will keep it in place until she is well enough to feed herself. 446 00:21:02,394 --> 00:21:03,451 Detectives, did you hear? 447 00:21:03,528 --> 00:21:05,339 Yes. Great news. Can we talk to you for a minute? 448 00:21:05,364 --> 00:21:07,162 Not now, they need me. 449 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,724 Listen, you're under arrest. 450 00:21:09,801 --> 00:21:13,465 You want to come calmly, 'cause we don't want to stir up the crowd. 451 00:21:13,538 --> 00:21:16,736 Or are you just about making the news, Reverend? 452 00:21:19,377 --> 00:21:22,746 No, no, no, it's all right. It's all right, everyone. 453 00:21:23,082 --> 00:21:24,413 Whatever happens to me is nothing. 454 00:21:24,482 --> 00:21:27,042 This is about Karen. About her right to life. 455 00:21:29,654 --> 00:21:31,248 Make yourself comfortable, Reverend. 456 00:21:31,323 --> 00:21:33,586 You are making a huge mistake, gentlemen. 457 00:21:33,659 --> 00:21:35,093 Oh, I don't think so. 458 00:21:35,161 --> 00:21:38,756 An ordained minister who orders a pipe bomb through room service? 459 00:21:38,830 --> 00:21:40,458 I'd think it's your mistake, not ours. 460 00:21:40,532 --> 00:21:43,298 Well, let me go on record that I did nothing of the sort. 461 00:21:43,368 --> 00:21:45,497 Then Why'd you throw out Mitch Randolph's name, 462 00:21:45,570 --> 00:21:48,039 unless it was to put this on Walter Byrd? 463 00:21:48,106 --> 00:21:49,483 You're taking the word of that madman? 464 00:21:49,508 --> 00:21:51,806 Where were you when Robert Barrows got blown to pieces? 465 00:21:51,876 --> 00:21:54,436 In good time, gentlemen. In good time. 466 00:21:54,512 --> 00:21:56,752 You're gonna have all the time you need on Rikers Island. 467 00:21:57,449 --> 00:21:59,848 I know you're not from here, but I'm sure you've heard of it. 468 00:22:00,786 --> 00:22:02,026 Thought you'd want to see this. 469 00:22:02,086 --> 00:22:03,086 Thank you. 470 00:22:03,154 --> 00:22:07,092 So, that's how it's done in the blue states. 471 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:09,550 Threats and intimidation. 472 00:22:10,229 --> 00:22:14,689 You've arrested me for what I stand for, not what you think I did. 473 00:22:14,767 --> 00:22:17,792 Actually, we arrested you because you're a bomb throwing phony. 474 00:22:18,237 --> 00:22:20,204 This is a report from the bomb squad. 475 00:22:20,271 --> 00:22:22,137 They found traces of potassium nitrate 476 00:22:22,208 --> 00:22:24,006 on the desk in your hotel room, 477 00:22:24,076 --> 00:22:28,444 the same compound they used in the explosives that killed Robert Barrows. 478 00:22:29,214 --> 00:22:32,013 Is there anything you'd like to say, Reverend? 479 00:22:34,420 --> 00:22:35,511 I want a lawyer. 480 00:22:43,895 --> 00:22:47,355 "Docket number 53832, People v. Harlan James Dwyre." 481 00:22:47,432 --> 00:22:48,798 "Murder in the second degree," 482 00:22:48,867 --> 00:22:51,387 "criminal possession of a dangerous weapon in the first degree," 483 00:22:51,436 --> 00:22:53,496 "four counts of assault in the first degree." 484 00:22:53,572 --> 00:22:55,403 I never thought I'd be saying this, 485 00:22:55,473 --> 00:22:56,713 but how do you plead, Reverend? 486 00:22:56,741 --> 00:22:58,574 Lam not guilty, Your Honor. 487 00:22:58,644 --> 00:23:00,270 We all know that the only reason. 488 00:23:00,346 --> 00:23:02,404 Reverend Dwyre stands accused here today 489 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,472 is because he opposed the murder of a helpless young woman. 490 00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:06,915 Because he stood up for life. 491 00:23:06,986 --> 00:23:10,319 He's here for his role in the death of one individual 492 00:23:10,388 --> 00:23:11,856 and the injury of four others. 493 00:23:11,923 --> 00:23:13,482 He saved Karen! 494 00:23:13,558 --> 00:23:15,755 Remove those people from the courtroom. 495 00:23:15,827 --> 00:23:17,489 In fact, escort them out of the building. 496 00:23:18,364 --> 00:23:22,596 Anyone else hollering out will be locked up and charged with contempt. 497 00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:27,667 And if you continue to grandstand, Mr. Kirby, the same goes for you. 498 00:23:28,073 --> 00:23:31,042 You can lock us all up, Judge, but you will never silence us. 499 00:23:31,277 --> 00:23:32,300 Your Honor. 500 00:23:32,377 --> 00:23:35,075 You were warned. I find you in contempt of court, sir. 501 00:23:37,816 --> 00:23:40,011 Judge Torledsky gave Dwyre 100 grand bail 502 00:23:40,085 --> 00:23:41,883 and 10 days on a contempt finding. 503 00:23:41,953 --> 00:23:43,512 He manipulated his arraignment 504 00:23:43,588 --> 00:23:45,284 into a pro-life media event. 505 00:23:45,356 --> 00:23:50,056 You better get used to it. This whole case is going to be the Harlan Dwyre Show. 506 00:23:50,128 --> 00:23:52,673 And we're going to look like patsies if it doesn't have the right ending. 507 00:23:52,698 --> 00:23:55,133 We flipped the bomb maker. He'll testify against Dwyre. 508 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,362 Walter Byrd, a zealot himself. 509 00:23:57,435 --> 00:23:58,961 Not the most credible witness. 510 00:23:59,038 --> 00:24:00,801 Agreed. But the explosive residue 511 00:24:00,873 --> 00:24:03,432 in Dwyre's hotel room corroborates Byrd's story. 512 00:24:03,509 --> 00:24:06,569 I don't see the Reverend Dwyre crawling under a car. 513 00:24:06,644 --> 00:24:08,306 Or pushing the button, for that matter. 514 00:24:08,380 --> 00:24:09,744 He has thousands of supporters. 515 00:24:09,815 --> 00:24:11,974 I don't think we'll ever know who all the players were. 516 00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:13,713 Don't be so sure. 517 00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:16,949 When push comes to shove, I doubt Dwyre's going to take one for team. 518 00:24:17,021 --> 00:24:19,548 Harlan Dwyre will do whatever's best for Harlan Dwyre. 519 00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:21,593 Dwyre's notice of alibi. 520 00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:24,161 He was on a radio talk show at the time of the bombing. 521 00:24:24,229 --> 00:24:27,596 Green and Fontana asked for his whereabouts. He gave them the run-around. 522 00:24:28,133 --> 00:24:29,931 Timing is everything. 523 00:24:33,238 --> 00:24:35,673 Arthur Branch, closet liberal. 524 00:24:35,740 --> 00:24:36,740 I always suspected. 525 00:24:37,209 --> 00:24:38,335 Trust me, you're wrong. 526 00:24:38,410 --> 00:24:40,309 Something put Dwyre in his cross hairs, Alex. 527 00:24:40,378 --> 00:24:41,378 Can I call you Alex? 528 00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:45,409 We don't prosecute people unless there's evidence, Miss Sanders. 529 00:24:45,718 --> 00:24:50,279 Or if it's election time with a bleeding heart constituency. 530 00:24:50,355 --> 00:24:51,881 Why else bare fangs at a reverend 531 00:24:51,957 --> 00:24:55,358 trying to save a woman from torture and murder by an adulterous husband? 532 00:24:55,426 --> 00:24:58,124 Was Reverend Dwyre here at the time of the bombing or not? 533 00:24:58,864 --> 00:25:02,231 He was in that chair from 10:00 to 11:00 that morning. 534 00:25:03,167 --> 00:25:06,068 Rodney's cued the tape for the exact time the bomb went off. 535 00:25:06,137 --> 00:25:08,435 Oh, you're absolutely right. It is madness. 536 00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:10,305 And if you think it's going to stop 537 00:25:10,375 --> 00:25:14,506 with Karen and the unborn children, open your eyes. 538 00:25:14,579 --> 00:25:16,776 We're on a ship called the culture of death, folks, 539 00:25:16,848 --> 00:25:19,340 with a legion of godless liberals at the helm. 540 00:25:19,417 --> 00:25:22,285 It's 10:45 here on WPLF Radio. 541 00:25:22,354 --> 00:25:24,185 And if that's not good enough, 542 00:25:24,256 --> 00:25:25,883 I'd be happy to testify in court. 543 00:25:26,290 --> 00:25:28,259 It says on your program notes that Phil Lamar 544 00:25:28,326 --> 00:25:30,404 was a guest that day, but I didn't hear him say anything. 545 00:25:30,429 --> 00:25:33,729 That's because Mr. Lamar had to cancel that morning. 546 00:25:35,733 --> 00:25:37,498 The reason I didn't appear on the program 547 00:25:37,568 --> 00:25:40,095 is I had a call from Karen's lawyers. 548 00:25:40,439 --> 00:25:42,874 They were trying to get a last-minute appeal. 549 00:25:42,941 --> 00:25:43,999 A stay. 550 00:25:44,076 --> 00:25:46,101 I had to go over there and sign an affidavit. 551 00:25:46,511 --> 00:25:48,776 I'll need the firm's name and address. 552 00:25:48,846 --> 00:25:53,443 Pauley and Wyatt. They're In Tribeca, Canal and Greenwich. 553 00:25:53,652 --> 00:25:54,652 You don't believe me? 554 00:25:55,686 --> 00:25:57,382 I'm just doing my job, Mr. Lamar. 555 00:25:58,557 --> 00:26:00,548 Did Reverend Dwyre say something? 556 00:26:01,660 --> 00:26:03,627 The Reverend said a lot of things. 557 00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:08,125 It just seems curious that you're here now, 558 00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:10,832 after the police investigated. 559 00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:15,271 Well, we're discovering something new about the case almost every day. 560 00:26:17,675 --> 00:26:20,770 My father obviously wasn't involved in any of this. 561 00:26:20,846 --> 00:26:22,624 And if you want to speak to him in the future, 562 00:26:22,647 --> 00:26:24,412 you should contact our lawyers. 563 00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:32,117 Bomb residue and a motive won't be enough to nail Dwyre. 564 00:26:32,191 --> 00:26:34,057 Any indication who did the dirty work? 565 00:26:34,125 --> 00:26:35,355 There was a three-day window 566 00:26:35,426 --> 00:26:37,691 when the bomb could've been planted in the car 567 00:26:37,762 --> 00:26:39,560 but we can't put Dwyre in it. 568 00:26:39,631 --> 00:26:43,589 Fontana and Green showed his picture up and down Barrows' neighborhood. 569 00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:44,669 Do me a favor. 570 00:26:44,736 --> 00:26:45,880 Have them retrace their steps 571 00:26:45,903 --> 00:26:47,530 with a photo of Lamar Senior. 572 00:26:47,605 --> 00:26:48,698 Okay. 573 00:26:50,808 --> 00:26:52,606 You're absolutely sure about that? 574 00:26:52,978 --> 00:26:54,154 Yeah, this receipt is from here. 575 00:26:54,179 --> 00:26:55,459 I can tell by the station number. 576 00:26:56,248 --> 00:26:57,248 They're father and son. 577 00:26:57,316 --> 00:26:59,461 Can you remember which one was here buying gas that day? 578 00:26:59,484 --> 00:27:01,282 How can I remember? It's very busy here. 579 00:27:01,353 --> 00:27:03,878 Well, there was a tanker unloading fuel here at the time. 580 00:27:03,955 --> 00:27:05,946 It must be Tuesday morning. 581 00:27:06,023 --> 00:27:07,752 It was a blue Volvo station wagon. 582 00:27:07,826 --> 00:27:09,657 It had a bunch of bumper stickers on the back. 583 00:27:11,262 --> 00:27:12,696 "It's a child, not a choice"? 584 00:27:12,763 --> 00:27:13,821 That would be the one. 585 00:27:13,898 --> 00:27:15,410 Yeah, but these men were not in the car. 586 00:27:15,433 --> 00:27:16,458 It was a woman. 587 00:27:16,535 --> 00:27:17,535 What'd she look like? 588 00:27:18,303 --> 00:27:20,067 Gray hair. Maybe 60? 589 00:27:21,673 --> 00:27:26,076 The gas station manager picked Mrs. Lamar's photo out of the array. 590 00:27:26,144 --> 00:27:27,387 Well, if she faked an alibi for her son, 591 00:27:27,412 --> 00:27:28,971 it probably means he detonated the bomb. 592 00:27:29,047 --> 00:27:30,946 After his father located Barrows' car 593 00:27:31,016 --> 00:27:32,346 so they could plant the thing. 594 00:27:32,416 --> 00:27:34,384 Dwyre had a lot of help. 595 00:27:34,819 --> 00:27:36,913 Very nice. A family project. 596 00:27:42,294 --> 00:27:44,694 I thought we told you to contact us through our lawyers. 597 00:27:44,762 --> 00:27:47,198 You did. Mr. Lamar, is the rest of your family here? 598 00:27:47,266 --> 00:27:49,427 Everyone but Karen. Why? 599 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:51,366 What's going on, Phil? 600 00:27:52,738 --> 00:27:54,068 I hope you have a warrant. 601 00:27:54,138 --> 00:27:56,971 We do. As a matter of fact, we have one for each of you. 602 00:27:57,041 --> 00:28:00,672 You're all under arrest for conspiracy to murder Robert Barrows. 603 00:28:00,746 --> 00:28:02,145 You have the right to remain silent. 604 00:28:02,213 --> 00:28:04,773 Anything you say can be used against you in a court of law. 605 00:28:04,849 --> 00:28:06,849 You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot... 606 00:28:09,654 --> 00:28:13,285 I only got involved to save Karen's life, Miss Borgia. 607 00:28:13,357 --> 00:28:15,884 Which amounts to a textbook justification defense. 608 00:28:15,961 --> 00:28:18,759 If she'll come forward and be honest about what happened, 609 00:28:18,829 --> 00:28:20,525 we might consider it in mitigation. 610 00:28:20,598 --> 00:28:23,500 I won't testify against anyone in my family. 611 00:28:25,170 --> 00:28:27,069 Who devised the plan to kill your son-in-law? 612 00:28:27,806 --> 00:28:29,296 What do we get in return? 613 00:28:29,575 --> 00:28:32,476 I can't commit to anything until I hear details. 614 00:28:39,984 --> 00:28:42,784 Reverend Dwyre said we had to be prepared 615 00:28:42,854 --> 00:28:45,185 if we lost Karen's case in court. 616 00:28:46,023 --> 00:28:50,290 She couldn't protect herself against Robert so we had to do it for her. 617 00:28:50,996 --> 00:28:53,727 It sounded right in principle, but then“. 618 00:28:57,068 --> 00:28:58,263 Then what, Mrs. Lamar? 619 00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:07,210 He started saying how everybody would be fine once Robert was gone. 620 00:29:07,578 --> 00:29:09,411 He was advocating murder. 621 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,881 My husband thought it was just talk, 622 00:29:10,949 --> 00:29:14,942 but Steven wouldn't let it go. 623 00:29:15,921 --> 00:29:16,979 Why? 624 00:29:18,155 --> 00:29:20,124 After we lost the last appeal, 625 00:29:20,192 --> 00:29:22,819 and we all knew Karen was going to die, 626 00:29:23,394 --> 00:29:25,921 Dwyre started taking Steven aside. 627 00:29:26,832 --> 00:29:30,734 They'd have these private talks, pray together. 628 00:29:32,003 --> 00:29:33,471 He got it in my son's head 629 00:29:33,538 --> 00:29:35,096 that something needed to be done. 630 00:29:35,574 --> 00:29:37,473 That something being a car bomb. 631 00:29:37,541 --> 00:29:41,000 Dwyre told him saving Karen was the most important thing 632 00:29:41,078 --> 00:29:43,513 he would ever do in his whole life. 633 00:29:44,715 --> 00:29:46,615 He also said we needed to make a statement 634 00:29:46,684 --> 00:29:49,051 for all the other Karens out there. 635 00:29:50,955 --> 00:29:53,253 Who planted the bomb, Mr. Lamar? 636 00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:59,958 Steven said he was going forward with or without our consent. 637 00:30:01,165 --> 00:30:02,634 He's our son. 638 00:30:04,036 --> 00:30:06,060 We had to protect him, too. 639 00:30:07,239 --> 00:30:08,297 "JACK". Was it Steven? 640 00:30:13,545 --> 00:30:15,069 I won't say that in court. 641 00:30:15,780 --> 00:30:18,182 That'll limit what lam able do for you. 642 00:30:18,849 --> 00:30:21,318 Then can you do something for my son? 643 00:30:24,189 --> 00:30:26,419 He planted a bomb and killed a man. 644 00:30:26,892 --> 00:30:29,417 It was Robert's life or Karen's. 645 00:30:30,162 --> 00:30:31,527 His sister. 646 00:30:32,463 --> 00:30:34,125 What would you do? 647 00:30:36,667 --> 00:30:38,659 Karen will recover. 648 00:30:39,604 --> 00:30:41,902 She will walk and talk again. 649 00:30:41,972 --> 00:30:45,967 So the threat of a court order to starve her to death 650 00:30:47,211 --> 00:30:51,205 keeps us awake at night with our stomachs twisted. 651 00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:55,012 It consumes our... 652 00:30:59,357 --> 00:31:01,849 It consumes our lives. 653 00:31:12,938 --> 00:31:14,336 They made some very bad choices 654 00:31:14,405 --> 00:31:16,134 in an impossible situation. 655 00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:17,231 What do you propose? 656 00:31:17,308 --> 00:31:18,708 Pleas down to conspiracy. 657 00:31:18,777 --> 00:31:22,337 Five to 15 years for the father, probation for the mother. 658 00:31:23,013 --> 00:31:25,038 If you're sure they're less culpable. 659 00:31:25,116 --> 00:31:26,642 I buy their story. 660 00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:28,310 Where are you on the other defendants? 661 00:31:28,386 --> 00:31:30,878 Neither lawyer is returning my calls. 662 00:31:30,955 --> 00:31:32,320 Well, the son has no leverage, 663 00:31:32,391 --> 00:31:34,826 but you'd think the good Reverend Dwyre 664 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:37,726 would be looking for a way to wiggle off the hook. 665 00:31:37,796 --> 00:31:40,322 Maybe he thinks the evidence against him is too tenuous. 666 00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:42,163 He supplied the weapon for the murder. 667 00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:44,566 But he stayed just far enough away from its execution 668 00:31:44,635 --> 00:31:46,832 to have plausible deniability. 669 00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:48,673 Or he believes he'll ride 670 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:51,367 the Steven Lamar justification defense to an acquittal. 671 00:31:51,442 --> 00:31:54,538 And greater fame. Either way, I don't want him or need him. 672 00:31:54,613 --> 00:31:56,740 Okay, then. Set atrial date. 673 00:32:00,184 --> 00:32:04,622 Steven Lamar was legally justified in his actions against Robert Barrows 674 00:32:04,689 --> 00:32:06,248 and I sit next to him proudly 675 00:32:06,324 --> 00:32:10,157 to defend this shameless attack on the Lamar family. 676 00:32:10,228 --> 00:32:12,959 Aren't you afraid of going to jail, Reverend? 677 00:32:13,030 --> 00:32:16,261 For what? An innocent woman's life was saved. 678 00:32:16,334 --> 00:32:19,133 Why would anybody go to jail for anything? 679 00:32:19,471 --> 00:32:20,471 Next question. 680 00:32:20,538 --> 00:32:22,871 Should we bring the judge out here and try it on the steps? 681 00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:24,840 Why bother with a judge? 682 00:32:26,144 --> 00:32:28,942 We met in Central Park by the big fountain. 683 00:32:29,013 --> 00:32:30,625 The Reverend wanted to know if I could make a device 684 00:32:30,648 --> 00:32:32,640 that could be planted under a car. 685 00:32:32,717 --> 00:32:34,583 What did you do? 686 00:32:34,885 --> 00:32:36,512 Filled his order. 687 00:32:36,654 --> 00:32:38,180 Bought some potassium nitrate, 688 00:32:38,256 --> 00:32:40,656 some PCB tubing, some nails. 689 00:32:41,826 --> 00:32:43,556 Put it together. Took it to his hotel room. 690 00:32:43,862 --> 00:32:44,953 Which was where? 691 00:32:45,029 --> 00:32:47,294 The Leister Inn in Manhattan, room 1602. 692 00:32:47,699 --> 00:32:49,462 What happened when you arrived there? 693 00:32:49,534 --> 00:32:52,663 I knocked on the door, he opened it. 694 00:32:55,339 --> 00:32:58,275 Which defendant are you pointing to, Mr. Byrd? 695 00:32:58,442 --> 00:32:59,442 Steve Lamar. 696 00:33:00,178 --> 00:33:03,272 He said Harlan asked him to accept the package personally. 697 00:33:03,347 --> 00:33:04,781 Harlan meaning? 698 00:33:05,884 --> 00:33:07,409 The Reverend Dwyre. 699 00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:09,579 Any question what the package was? 700 00:33:09,653 --> 00:33:12,520 The Reverend ordered a bomb, that's what I delivered. 701 00:33:14,726 --> 00:33:16,592 Nothing further. 702 00:33:18,529 --> 00:33:22,022 My partner and I arrived on the scene to find a late model sedan 703 00:33:22,099 --> 00:33:25,558 that had been blown up by some kind of explosive device. 704 00:33:26,037 --> 00:33:29,132 What did your examination of the car reveal, Detective Green? 705 00:33:29,207 --> 00:33:31,231 There was a body in the driver's seat, 706 00:33:31,308 --> 00:33:33,743 and because the explosion was so powerful, 707 00:33:33,811 --> 00:33:36,247 we couldn't determine the race or the gender. 708 00:33:36,314 --> 00:33:38,373 But the car was registered to Robert Barrows. 709 00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:41,579 So what did you do? 710 00:33:41,886 --> 00:33:43,513 We went to Mr. Barrows' apartment. 711 00:33:43,587 --> 00:33:44,587 Was anybody home? 712 00:33:44,955 --> 00:33:48,950 Yes, his long-time girlfriend, Susan Alfani, and their two sons. 713 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:50,961 We broke the news to her, 714 00:33:51,028 --> 00:33:54,294 and she confirmed that he did take the car to the hospital that morning. 715 00:33:54,365 --> 00:33:56,493 What else did your conversation with her reveal? 716 00:33:56,567 --> 00:34:00,299 That there was bad blood between Robert and the Lamar family. 717 00:34:00,805 --> 00:34:02,067 Specifically? 718 00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:05,007 That Robert had watched Karen waste away for six years 719 00:34:05,076 --> 00:34:06,839 and wanted to end her suffering, 720 00:34:06,912 --> 00:34:10,280 and the Lamar family didn't approve. 721 00:34:15,853 --> 00:34:18,686 As part of your investigation, Detective Green, 722 00:34:18,757 --> 00:34:21,282 did you scrutinize over 500 death threats? 723 00:34:21,358 --> 00:34:22,358 We knew of them. 724 00:34:22,427 --> 00:34:25,106 And how many of those did you trace back to the source of the threat? 725 00:34:25,130 --> 00:34:26,222 None. 726 00:34:26,998 --> 00:34:28,159 No further questions. 727 00:34:31,068 --> 00:34:33,128 Why didn't you trace the threats, Detective? 728 00:34:33,204 --> 00:34:35,695 Every one of those letters were anonymous. 729 00:34:35,773 --> 00:34:38,072 Plus, we already had a positive ID on the bomb maker, 730 00:34:38,143 --> 00:34:41,510 which led us directly to the arrest of Reverend Dwyre. 731 00:34:41,947 --> 00:34:43,813 Nothing further. 732 00:34:47,052 --> 00:34:49,782 Mr. McCoy, I think you've made your point 733 00:34:50,322 --> 00:34:54,724 charging me in this case and I'm willing to take my rap on the knuckles. 734 00:34:56,827 --> 00:34:59,422 But you know this was a matter of personal conscience. 735 00:34:59,496 --> 00:35:03,695 What was happening to Karen was murder in the eyes of God. 736 00:35:04,603 --> 00:35:06,833 That's why you suggested a bombing 737 00:35:06,905 --> 00:35:11,034 and procured a bomb for the Lamar family, specifically Steven Lamar? 738 00:35:11,675 --> 00:35:13,871 He was the most devoted to the cause. 739 00:35:13,945 --> 00:35:16,242 He was the weakest, wasn't he? 740 00:35:16,313 --> 00:35:18,338 And now you're throwing him under a bus. 741 00:35:18,416 --> 00:35:20,885 Shadows your motivation, don't you think? 742 00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:24,547 There was no personal interest in this for me. 743 00:35:24,623 --> 00:35:26,920 Your press conferences say different. 744 00:35:26,992 --> 00:35:29,927 For testimony against Steven, 15 years. 745 00:35:30,427 --> 00:35:32,920 Fifteen years? For preaching his beliefs? 746 00:35:32,998 --> 00:35:35,626 He preyed on the Lamar family like a vulture. 747 00:35:35,699 --> 00:35:39,226 My only concern was saving Karen's life. 748 00:35:39,304 --> 00:35:41,965 That may work for the Lamar family, but not for you. 749 00:35:45,409 --> 00:35:46,740 Mr. McCoy, 750 00:35:47,945 --> 00:35:51,382 it's my understanding that Steven did this for money. 751 00:35:52,717 --> 00:35:55,242 To use the settlement to open a business. 752 00:35:56,588 --> 00:35:59,114 To finally make something of himself. 753 00:35:59,923 --> 00:36:01,186 He told me directly. 754 00:36:04,695 --> 00:36:05,719 Fifteen years. 755 00:36:09,134 --> 00:36:11,101 I will not go to prison. 756 00:36:13,070 --> 00:36:16,166 That is in the hands of a higher power, Reverend. 757 00:36:16,474 --> 00:36:18,101 The criminal justice system. 758 00:36:29,487 --> 00:36:31,215 My family and I were grateful 759 00:36:31,289 --> 00:36:35,088 that a man of Reverend Dwyre's stature had taken on Karen's case. 760 00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:38,186 After that, we thought maybe there was a chance. 761 00:36:38,262 --> 00:36:40,755 A chance for what, Steven? 762 00:36:40,831 --> 00:36:42,163 To save Karen's life. 763 00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:45,992 And was Reverend Dwyre able to accomplish anything? 764 00:36:46,070 --> 00:36:47,436 He was tremendous. 765 00:36:47,505 --> 00:36:49,405 He brought out a lot of support for Karen. 766 00:36:50,041 --> 00:36:52,942 He made the whole country sit up and take notice. 767 00:36:53,010 --> 00:36:55,672 But it wasn't enough, was it? 768 00:36:55,746 --> 00:36:57,612 Well, the courts ruled against us. 769 00:36:57,681 --> 00:36:59,775 We hoped the Governor or maybe even the President 770 00:36:59,851 --> 00:37:02,945 would step in and stop Robert from killing Karen, 771 00:37:04,222 --> 00:37:05,746 but nobody did. 772 00:37:05,824 --> 00:37:09,657 There was only one thing we could do to save Karen's life. 773 00:37:10,027 --> 00:37:11,358 Which was what? 774 00:37:11,429 --> 00:37:14,126 My parents had to get guardianship back. 775 00:37:14,331 --> 00:37:15,856 And Robert wouldn't give it up. 776 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,063 So what happened? 777 00:37:19,436 --> 00:37:21,097 We drew up a plan. 778 00:37:21,505 --> 00:37:22,701 I got the bomb. 779 00:37:23,208 --> 00:37:26,007 I put it under Robert's car with duct tape, 780 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,338 and I set it off when he was getting in at the hospital. 781 00:37:34,152 --> 00:37:36,085 I know it sounds terrible, 782 00:37:37,755 --> 00:37:40,851 but isn't it like shooting a burglar in your home 783 00:37:41,358 --> 00:37:43,327 who's trying to harm your family? 784 00:37:52,302 --> 00:37:55,465 So why didn't you get a gun and shoot him, Mr. Lamar? 785 00:37:56,407 --> 00:37:57,568 I don't know. 786 00:37:57,641 --> 00:38:02,204 And then turn yourself in, as you would if you'd shot a burglar in your home? 787 00:38:04,916 --> 00:38:08,010 You killed Robert Barrows with a pipe bomb 788 00:38:08,786 --> 00:38:10,755 because you and Reverend Dwyre 789 00:38:10,822 --> 00:38:15,190 wanted the splashiest murder you could cook up for the news media? 790 00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:16,920 I never thought of it that way. 791 00:38:16,994 --> 00:38:20,693 Or maybe all you were concerned about was not getting caught? 792 00:38:20,764 --> 00:38:22,597 No. I mean, 793 00:38:23,867 --> 00:38:25,768 I just wanted my sister to stay alive. 794 00:38:27,005 --> 00:38:28,996 If this was such a noble cause, 795 00:38:29,072 --> 00:38:30,507 why did you lie to the police? 796 00:38:31,074 --> 00:38:32,668 Why did you evade capture? 797 00:38:32,744 --> 00:38:36,646 Because the justice system is controlled by godless politicians 798 00:38:36,713 --> 00:38:38,340 who don't care about human life. 799 00:38:38,416 --> 00:38:40,646 Is that something you believe, 800 00:38:40,717 --> 00:38:43,619 or something you heard from Reverend Dwyre? 801 00:38:43,688 --> 00:38:44,898 He doesn't put words in my mouth. 802 00:38:44,922 --> 00:38:46,891 No. He just sends you out 803 00:38:47,425 --> 00:38:50,554 to plant a pipe bomb under your brother-in-law's car? 804 00:38:50,628 --> 00:38:53,119 It was my idea, not his. 805 00:38:54,264 --> 00:38:56,927 You decided, little old Steven Lamar, 806 00:38:57,001 --> 00:38:59,128 all by yourself, to play God? 807 00:39:01,438 --> 00:39:03,965 No, it wasn't like that. 808 00:39:05,476 --> 00:39:08,775 Karen was a lamb that needed to be saved. 809 00:39:08,847 --> 00:39:10,440 I was doing His work. 810 00:39:10,514 --> 00:39:12,744 God's or Reverend Dwyre's? 811 00:39:12,817 --> 00:39:15,581 Why are you trying to blame this on him? 812 00:39:16,420 --> 00:39:18,286 He would never kill anyone. He's a great man. 813 00:39:18,356 --> 00:39:21,690 Who in your eyes was qualified to decide 814 00:39:21,759 --> 00:39:23,487 who should live and who should die? 815 00:39:23,994 --> 00:39:27,123 No. Well, who contacted Walter Byrd? 816 00:39:27,998 --> 00:39:30,365 Who ordered the pipe bomb from him? 817 00:39:30,434 --> 00:39:32,869 Who had it delivered to his hotel room? 818 00:39:40,945 --> 00:39:42,469 I killed Robert. 819 00:39:43,447 --> 00:39:45,643 So at the end of the day, Mr. Lamar, 820 00:39:45,717 --> 00:39:48,277 only you get credit for saving Karen's life? 821 00:39:52,956 --> 00:39:55,824 Reverend Dwyre inspired me to do the Lord's work. 822 00:39:56,427 --> 00:40:00,728 But I was His soldier. I was the one who carried out the mission. 823 00:40:00,797 --> 00:40:03,528 There's another name for that, Mr. Lamar. 824 00:40:03,967 --> 00:40:07,927 It's called "taking the rap." 825 00:40:08,005 --> 00:40:09,097 Objection. 826 00:40:09,172 --> 00:40:12,108 Sustained. You've made your point, Mr. McCoy. 827 00:40:30,161 --> 00:40:31,400 Has the jury reached a verdict? 828 00:40:31,461 --> 00:40:32,461 We have, Your Honor. 829 00:40:33,297 --> 00:40:35,356 As to the defendant Steven Lamar, 830 00:40:35,432 --> 00:40:37,833 on the count of murder in the second degree, how do you find? 831 00:40:38,001 --> 00:40:40,197 We find Steven Lamar guilty. 832 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,240 As to the defendant Harlan James Dwyre, 833 00:40:45,309 --> 00:40:48,280 on the count of murder in the second degree, how do you find? 834 00:40:48,346 --> 00:40:51,474 We've been unable to reach a unanimous verdict. 835 00:40:51,548 --> 00:40:53,039 Are you hopelessly deadlocked? 836 00:40:53,117 --> 00:40:54,983 I'm afraid so, Your Honor. 837 00:40:55,052 --> 00:40:56,349 In that case I have no choice 838 00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:59,288 but to declare a mistrial as to Reverend Dwyre. 839 00:40:59,356 --> 00:41:01,485 Mr. Lamar will be remanded until the sentence date. 840 00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:04,128 This court is adjourned. 841 00:41:08,132 --> 00:41:10,567 I checked with the Department of Corrections. 842 00:41:10,635 --> 00:41:13,969 The Reverend visited with Steve Lamar at Rikers 843 00:41:14,038 --> 00:41:16,199 over the weekend before he testified. 844 00:41:17,007 --> 00:41:18,806 Convinced him of his higher calling. 845 00:41:18,876 --> 00:41:20,434 Nailed him to the cross. 846 00:41:20,510 --> 00:41:22,639 Next time, the jury will see through it. 847 00:41:22,713 --> 00:41:24,306 Assuming there is a next time. 848 00:41:24,382 --> 00:41:26,646 If we try Dwyre again, what's going to be different? 849 00:41:26,717 --> 00:41:28,708 We will be able to concentrate on one defendant. 850 00:41:28,786 --> 00:41:31,447 With the same evidence you had on the first go-round. 851 00:41:31,521 --> 00:41:34,115 And there's always gonna be folks on the jury 852 00:41:34,192 --> 00:41:36,552 who are sympathetic to Dwyre's position on the bigger issue. 853 00:41:38,195 --> 00:41:40,096 Who decides who lives and dies? 854 00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:43,327 You have to check this out. The press conference. 855 00:41:45,335 --> 00:41:47,429 When I explained to Karen that she's not 856 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:51,135 going to see her father and her brother for a long time, 857 00:41:51,208 --> 00:41:52,835 she got very sad. 858 00:41:53,677 --> 00:41:57,079 Her lovely eyes, there were tears in them. 859 00:41:58,483 --> 00:42:00,416 But she understands. 860 00:42:00,485 --> 00:42:04,478 And she's grateful to Steven and her father 861 00:42:04,554 --> 00:42:07,889 for the sacrifice that they've made. 862 00:42:08,425 --> 00:42:10,793 It's all right. It's all right. 863 00:42:10,862 --> 00:42:12,853 Thank you, everyone, that's all for today.67367

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