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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,383 --> 00:00:07,023 ♪♪ 2 00:00:07,050 --> 00:00:08,350 I pinch myself all the time 3 00:00:08,383 --> 00:00:11,103 because I have such a charmed life 4 00:00:11,133 --> 00:00:14,103 that I feel almost guilty about it at times 5 00:00:14,133 --> 00:00:17,153 because things have really worked out well, 6 00:00:17,183 --> 00:00:20,303 and I really enjoy my life and what I'm doing. 7 00:00:20,333 --> 00:00:30,303 ♪♪ 8 00:00:30,333 --> 00:00:34,303 ♪♪ 9 00:00:34,333 --> 00:00:35,453 Hey, everyone. 10 00:00:35,483 --> 00:00:36,453 Welcome to "How It Really Happened." 11 00:00:36,483 --> 00:00:38,053 I'm Hill Harper. 12 00:00:38,083 --> 00:00:40,373 Tom Petty is an American music icon 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,200 whose brand of classic rock 'n' roll 14 00:00:42,233 --> 00:00:44,203 with his band of musical brothers, the Heartbreakers, 15 00:00:44,233 --> 00:00:46,453 spoke to millions for over 40 years. 16 00:00:46,483 --> 00:00:49,383 Songs like "American Girl" and "Free Fallin'" 17 00:00:49,416 --> 00:00:53,196 are the soundtrack to the lives of fans around the world. 18 00:00:53,233 --> 00:00:56,223 Though a rock god to many, he was as mortal as any of us -- 19 00:00:56,250 --> 00:00:59,000 afflicted with the very human traumas of childhood abuse, 20 00:00:59,033 --> 00:01:01,473 depression, divorce, and addiction. 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,320 In 2017, he embarked on a gruelling six-month tour. 22 00:01:05,350 --> 00:01:10,100 One week after his triumphant final show, he was dead. 23 00:01:10,133 --> 00:01:13,303 Tonight, Tom Petty's mysterious ending, 24 00:01:13,333 --> 00:01:16,003 and how it really happened. 25 00:01:16,033 --> 00:01:17,473 [ Cheers and applause ] 26 00:01:21,250 --> 00:01:26,000 Petty: I wanna thank all of you for coming out tonight! 27 00:01:26,033 --> 00:01:27,003 [ Cheers and applause continue ] 28 00:01:27,033 --> 00:01:29,053 We love you dearly. 29 00:01:29,083 --> 00:01:35,153 I want to thank you for 40 years of a really great time. 30 00:01:35,183 --> 00:01:38,103 This was an opportunity to sort of say thank you 31 00:01:38,133 --> 00:01:41,373 to all their fans who had supported them over 40 years. 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,180 Scott: It was like the pinnacle of Tom's career, 33 00:01:45,216 --> 00:01:49,096 knowing that this might be the last concert tour ever. 34 00:01:49,133 --> 00:01:52,123 It was huge. They were selling out. 35 00:01:52,150 --> 00:01:53,450 McKittrick: The 40th anniversary tour 36 00:01:53,483 --> 00:01:56,433 ended with three shows at the Hollywood Bowl. 37 00:01:56,466 --> 00:02:00,176 50,000 people each time -- bigger than a small town. 38 00:02:00,216 --> 00:02:01,446 Just huge crowds. 39 00:02:01,483 --> 00:02:05,003 [ "American Girl" plays ] 40 00:02:05,033 --> 00:02:07,433 Fittingly, the last song was "American Girl." 41 00:02:07,466 --> 00:02:12,326 ♪ Well, she was an American girl ♪ 42 00:02:12,366 --> 00:02:16,146 ♪ Raised on promises ♪ 43 00:02:16,183 --> 00:02:17,153 Halperin: People loved it. 44 00:02:17,183 --> 00:02:20,033 They gave him a rousing ovation. 45 00:02:20,066 --> 00:02:24,026 He loved his fans -- really, seriously loved his fans -- 46 00:02:24,066 --> 00:02:25,366 and they loved him back. 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,350 ♪ She was ♪ 48 00:02:27,383 --> 00:02:30,023 ♪ An American girl ♪ 49 00:02:30,050 --> 00:02:34,450 These shows were fantastic, but I think it put pressure on him. 50 00:02:34,483 --> 00:02:37,333 He wasn't in great physical shape at that time. 51 00:02:37,366 --> 00:02:40,266 Thank you so much! 52 00:02:40,300 --> 00:02:42,280 [ Cheers and applause ] 53 00:02:42,316 --> 00:02:45,126 God bless ya! Good night! 54 00:02:45,166 --> 00:02:47,266 I didn't realize that he was in a lot of pain. 55 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:51,100 [ Cheers and applause continue ] 56 00:02:51,133 --> 00:02:55,203 When he leaves the stage, you can see he's limping off. 57 00:02:55,233 --> 00:02:57,483 ♪♪ 58 00:02:58,016 --> 00:03:00,316 Something wasn't right. 59 00:03:00,350 --> 00:03:04,080 ♪♪ 60 00:03:04,116 --> 00:03:05,996 Sad news to report this morning -- 61 00:03:06,033 --> 00:03:08,103 rock legend Tom Petty has died. 62 00:03:08,133 --> 00:03:09,283 Scott: We were watching TV. 63 00:03:09,316 --> 00:03:12,076 A bulletin came over saying Tom Petty had passed away. 64 00:03:12,116 --> 00:03:13,296 Woman: He passed away Monday 65 00:03:13,333 --> 00:03:15,333 after being rushed to a Los Angeles hospital. 66 00:03:15,366 --> 00:03:19,326 He was found unconscious in his Malibu home Sunday night. 67 00:03:19,366 --> 00:03:23,316 I'm like, "That's impossible. 68 00:03:23,350 --> 00:03:25,270 He -- He was there a week ago." 69 00:03:25,300 --> 00:03:27,250 DeCurtis: It shocked me. 70 00:03:27,283 --> 00:03:30,323 When I heard that he had died, I was just floored. 71 00:03:30,350 --> 00:03:36,350 Leadon: It's just really hard to comprehend that 72 00:03:36,383 --> 00:03:42,173 that person that is such a big part of your life is gone. 73 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,020 Harben: I wish I could have been there somehow to help him. 74 00:03:45,050 --> 00:03:49,100 That it was -- possibly could have been prevented. 75 00:03:49,133 --> 00:03:51,433 Greene: How is this possible? He just played a concert. 76 00:03:51,466 --> 00:03:54,016 How can he go from two hours at Hollywood Bowl 77 00:03:54,050 --> 00:03:56,200 to dead in seven days? 78 00:03:56,233 --> 00:04:01,203 Petty: I wanna thank you for 40 years of a really great time. 79 00:04:01,233 --> 00:04:06,083 [ Cheers and applause ] 80 00:04:06,116 --> 00:04:09,216 Elam: Tom Petty was basically a poet. 81 00:04:09,250 --> 00:04:12,420 He wrote these beautiful lyrics that you could think, 82 00:04:12,450 --> 00:04:14,350 "Well, that applies to my life." 83 00:04:14,383 --> 00:04:16,103 [ "American Girl" plays ] 84 00:04:16,133 --> 00:04:18,003 George-Warren: When I heard "American Girl," 85 00:04:18,033 --> 00:04:19,003 that was it for me. 86 00:04:19,033 --> 00:04:20,483 That became my song. 87 00:04:21,016 --> 00:04:24,476 ♪ Well, she was an American girl ♪ 88 00:04:25,016 --> 00:04:27,246 The lyrics really spoke to me. 89 00:04:27,283 --> 00:04:30,273 ♪ She couldn't help thinkin' that there ♪ 90 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:33,020 ♪ Was a little more to life ♪ 91 00:04:33,050 --> 00:04:35,080 ♪ Somewhere else ♪ 92 00:04:35,116 --> 00:04:38,396 ♪ It was a beautiful day ♪ 93 00:04:38,433 --> 00:04:40,303 I'm a huge fan of "Running Down a Dream." 94 00:04:40,333 --> 00:04:43,353 ♪ I had the radio on ♪ 95 00:04:43,383 --> 00:04:45,173 ♪ I was drivin' ♪ 96 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,270 Just such a -- such a rush. 97 00:04:47,300 --> 00:04:49,430 ♪ Yeah, runnin' down a dream ♪ 98 00:04:49,466 --> 00:04:52,066 ♪ That never would come to me ♪ 99 00:04:52,100 --> 00:04:53,430 "Refugee" was special. 100 00:04:53,466 --> 00:04:57,446 ♪ It don't really matter to me, baby ♪ 101 00:04:57,483 --> 00:05:01,173 It's real rock 'n' roll, but great rock 'n' roll. 102 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,170 ♪ You see you don't ♪ 103 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,300 ♪ Have to live like a refugee ♪ 104 00:05:06,333 --> 00:05:08,423 He distilled so much of the country 105 00:05:08,450 --> 00:05:11,000 and its history into his songs. 106 00:05:11,033 --> 00:05:14,083 ♪ And I'm free ♪ 107 00:05:14,116 --> 00:05:15,096 DeCurtis: "Free Fallin'," I think, 108 00:05:15,133 --> 00:05:17,003 is just an extraordinary song. 109 00:05:17,033 --> 00:05:19,253 ♪ Free fallin' ♪ 110 00:05:19,283 --> 00:05:22,253 DeCurtis: It captures, in a very concise way, 111 00:05:22,283 --> 00:05:25,253 that combination of feelings that you're both free 112 00:05:25,283 --> 00:05:27,003 and you're in free-fall. 113 00:05:27,033 --> 00:05:28,003 ♪ Free fallin' ♪ 114 00:05:28,033 --> 00:05:30,183 ♪ Free fallin' ♪ 115 00:05:30,216 --> 00:05:32,226 Scott: Tom's greatest talent in the world -- 116 00:05:32,266 --> 00:05:35,296 he could write songs under three minutes 117 00:05:35,333 --> 00:05:40,103 that meant something to most everybody. 118 00:05:40,133 --> 00:05:41,453 DeCurtis: There's a reason why those songs 119 00:05:41,483 --> 00:05:44,003 meant something to so many people, 120 00:05:44,033 --> 00:05:50,253 and that's because he said it, he meant it, and you felt it, 121 00:05:50,283 --> 00:05:54,103 and, you know, that's what any art sets out to do. 122 00:05:54,133 --> 00:05:56,083 Zollo: I definitely think Tom will be considered 123 00:05:56,116 --> 00:05:58,046 one of the great champions of rock 'n' roll, 124 00:05:58,083 --> 00:06:00,233 and his music will live on forever. 125 00:06:00,266 --> 00:06:03,216 [ Cheers and applause ] 126 00:06:03,250 --> 00:06:05,220 ♪♪ 127 00:06:05,250 --> 00:06:07,150 Tom said time spent with his dad -- 128 00:06:07,183 --> 00:06:08,483 a lot of it, he felt scared. 129 00:06:09,016 --> 00:06:11,466 Elam: The abuse, both physical and emotional, 130 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 started very young. 131 00:06:14,033 --> 00:06:17,273 ♪♪ 132 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:21,420 Generations of fans are mourning the loss of Tom Petty, 133 00:06:21,450 --> 00:06:24,320 the singer/songwriter once described as a quiet, 134 00:06:24,350 --> 00:06:26,170 unassuming rock legend. 135 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,330 The 66-year-old was reportedly rushed to a Los Angeles hospital 136 00:06:29,366 --> 00:06:32,166 Sunday night in full cardiac arrest. 137 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,230 Just a few hours ago, a family spokesman confirmed he had died. 138 00:06:36,266 --> 00:06:42,176 ♪♪ 139 00:06:42,216 --> 00:06:45,416 Elam: Tom Petty was born on October 20, 1950, 140 00:06:45,450 --> 00:06:47,230 in Gainesville, Florida. 141 00:06:47,266 --> 00:06:48,346 He had a younger brother 142 00:06:48,383 --> 00:06:50,433 who was about eight years younger than him. 143 00:06:50,466 --> 00:06:53,446 Gainesville was a very sleepy, little college town. 144 00:06:53,483 --> 00:06:56,283 Halperin: It was a very working-class town. 145 00:06:56,316 --> 00:07:01,026 It was an amalgamation of students and farmers, 146 00:07:01,066 --> 00:07:02,466 and there was a big music scene. 147 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,200 ♪♪ 148 00:07:05,233 --> 00:07:08,283 Harben: We had all the freedoms in the world as children. 149 00:07:08,316 --> 00:07:10,046 We ran in the woods. 150 00:07:10,083 --> 00:07:12,203 We played a little baseball together. 151 00:07:12,233 --> 00:07:17,103 We played football -- just having a great time. 152 00:07:17,133 --> 00:07:19,483 Leadon: He was a natural-born entertainer. 153 00:07:20,016 --> 00:07:22,166 Even if you were just there hanging out, 154 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,000 just you and him, he was doing his very best 155 00:07:26,033 --> 00:07:28,323 to make sure you were entertained. 156 00:07:28,350 --> 00:07:31,150 He was very dry but also very funny. 157 00:07:31,183 --> 00:07:33,333 ♪♪ 158 00:07:33,366 --> 00:07:36,996 Elam: Tom's mom, Kitty, worked in a tax collector's office, 159 00:07:37,033 --> 00:07:41,003 and his dad, Earl, was a traveling salesman. 160 00:07:41,033 --> 00:07:44,473 Leadon: Kitty was a real sweet, soft-spoken, 161 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,350 really Southern woman. 162 00:07:48,383 --> 00:07:54,123 His father was more traditional, small-town Southern, 163 00:07:54,150 --> 00:07:58,250 and they didn't get along at all in many ways. 164 00:07:58,283 --> 00:07:59,403 His dad was just a wild guy, 165 00:07:59,433 --> 00:08:01,423 and Tom said time spent with his dad -- 166 00:08:01,450 --> 00:08:03,370 a lot of it, he felt scared. 167 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,400 Leadon: Kitty was his rock. 168 00:08:05,433 --> 00:08:10,033 She was the one who really believed in Tom. 169 00:08:10,066 --> 00:08:12,216 Halperin: His mother fought numerous ailments 170 00:08:12,250 --> 00:08:16,300 throughout her whole life -- epilepsy and bouts of cancer -- 171 00:08:16,333 --> 00:08:19,403 and Tom would always try to do the best he could for her. 172 00:08:19,433 --> 00:08:22,333 ♪♪ 173 00:08:22,366 --> 00:08:24,476 I remember my uncle got a job -- 174 00:08:25,016 --> 00:08:27,166 because he was in the film business locally -- 175 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,480 on a movie set with Elvis on a film called "Follow That Dream." 176 00:08:32,016 --> 00:08:33,066 My aunt drove up and said, 177 00:08:33,100 --> 00:08:34,320 "Would you like to go see Elvis?" 178 00:08:34,350 --> 00:08:36,280 And I said sure, you know? 179 00:08:36,316 --> 00:08:41,176 And so, I went down, and we did see Elvis. 180 00:08:41,216 --> 00:08:44,076 He really was just taken by Elvis Presley 181 00:08:44,116 --> 00:08:46,416 and his performance of songs like "Hound Dog." 182 00:08:46,450 --> 00:08:50,000 ♪ You ain't nothin' but a hound dog ♪ 183 00:08:50,033 --> 00:08:52,083 ♪ Cryin' all the time ♪ 184 00:08:52,116 --> 00:08:55,096 ♪ You ain't nothin' but a hound dog ♪ 185 00:08:55,133 --> 00:08:56,403 ♪ Cryin' all the time ♪ 186 00:08:56,433 --> 00:08:58,323 Harben: I was there waiting when he came home, 187 00:08:58,350 --> 00:09:01,070 and he told me, "Hey, I got to see Elvis Presley." 188 00:09:01,100 --> 00:09:04,020 And it was such a thrill to Tom. 189 00:09:04,050 --> 00:09:07,470 And I said, "Well, Tom, my older sister, Linda, 190 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,070 has a little rack of 45 RPM records, all Elvis." 191 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:16,320 So we made a trade, and we traded for a slingshot. 192 00:09:16,350 --> 00:09:20,170 And that's when he became kind of first obsessed and realized, 193 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,320 I think, the power of music, 194 00:09:21,350 --> 00:09:23,480 when he got those early Elvis records. 195 00:09:24,016 --> 00:09:25,026 Zollo: He got to learn that early rock 'n' roll, 196 00:09:25,066 --> 00:09:26,216 and he loved it. 197 00:09:26,250 --> 00:09:29,020 He learned those songs even before he could play them. 198 00:09:29,050 --> 00:09:30,170 Harben: That following Christmas, 199 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,220 he got an acoustical guitar from Santa Claus. 200 00:09:37,350 --> 00:09:41,070 And he taught himself how to play the guitar, 201 00:09:41,100 --> 00:09:45,150 and he played and played and practiced. 202 00:09:45,183 --> 00:09:46,353 Zollo: He learned four chords 203 00:09:46,383 --> 00:09:49,103 and almost immediately started writing songs. 204 00:09:49,133 --> 00:09:52,273 Elvis kind of launched the journey for Tom. 205 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:55,080 I just played Elvis records most of the time, 206 00:09:55,116 --> 00:09:57,996 and then when The Beatles and The Stones 207 00:09:58,033 --> 00:10:00,383 and all that came along, my father actually thought 208 00:10:00,416 --> 00:10:03,326 I had gone very strange because I stayed in the house 209 00:10:03,366 --> 00:10:06,066 listening to records all the time. 210 00:10:06,100 --> 00:10:11,370 Leadon: His father was a hard-nosed Southern guy 211 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:16,200 that had grown up in the swamp country of north Florida 212 00:10:16,233 --> 00:10:19,433 next to an alligator-filled lake. 213 00:10:19,466 --> 00:10:25,266 He was into hunting and fishing and boozing. 214 00:10:25,300 --> 00:10:30,270 Tom was a sensitive, artistic soul, 215 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:34,280 and he had a very strong sense of right and wrong. 216 00:10:34,316 --> 00:10:38,216 Harben: He was a gentle person, and I don't know if that's 217 00:10:38,250 --> 00:10:42,030 because of his mother being such a big influence on his life 218 00:10:42,066 --> 00:10:46,326 and maybe being his protector from his fairly rough father. 219 00:10:46,366 --> 00:10:50,026 Tom said that sometimes, he would just pop you. 220 00:10:50,066 --> 00:10:54,346 The abuse, both physical and emotional, started very young. 221 00:10:54,383 --> 00:10:57,203 I think when he was 5 years old, 222 00:10:57,233 --> 00:11:00,273 Tom had been playing with a slingshot 223 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:03,250 and hit a pebble into a Cadillac. 224 00:11:03,283 --> 00:11:05,083 Elam: When his father found out about it, 225 00:11:05,116 --> 00:11:09,346 apparently, he took a belt and just beat Tom to the point 226 00:11:09,383 --> 00:11:12,133 that he had welts all over his body, 227 00:11:12,166 --> 00:11:14,426 his mother and his grandmother having to tend to him. 228 00:11:14,466 --> 00:11:18,316 And he would say that his mom would often step in the way 229 00:11:18,350 --> 00:11:26,000 to try to stop this abuse against Tom from his father. 230 00:11:26,033 --> 00:11:29,453 Leadon: I didn't witness the abuse that Tom spoke about, 231 00:11:29,483 --> 00:11:31,133 but I knew they didn't get along, 232 00:11:31,166 --> 00:11:32,996 that there was a vibe there. 233 00:11:33,033 --> 00:11:36,003 I kind of escaped into that world 234 00:11:36,033 --> 00:11:40,173 of just listening very intently to these records. 235 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:46,200 Looking back, I think it was probably a safe place mentally 236 00:11:46,233 --> 00:11:49,083 for a really abused child. 237 00:11:49,116 --> 00:11:53,076 For Tom Petty, music -- rock 'n' roll -- 238 00:11:53,116 --> 00:11:56,026 became really an escape hatch. 239 00:11:56,066 --> 00:11:58,116 ♪♪ 240 00:11:58,150 --> 00:12:02,100 Ladies and gentlemen, The Beatles! 241 00:12:02,133 --> 00:12:05,253 When The Beatles appeared on "The Ed Sullivan Show," 242 00:12:05,283 --> 00:12:08,083 Tom Petty was watching. 243 00:12:08,116 --> 00:12:10,176 They played "I Want to Hold Your Hand." 244 00:12:10,216 --> 00:12:12,446 ♪ I think you'll understand ♪ 245 00:12:12,483 --> 00:12:15,103 ♪ When I ♪ 246 00:12:15,133 --> 00:12:17,433 ♪ Say that somethin' ♪ 247 00:12:17,466 --> 00:12:20,346 ♪ I want to hold your hand ♪ 248 00:12:20,383 --> 00:12:24,433 ♪ I want to hold your hand ♪ 249 00:12:24,466 --> 00:12:27,076 Tom said as soon as he saw it, he knew that was it. 250 00:12:27,116 --> 00:12:28,466 He never wanted to be Elvis. 251 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,370 He wanted to be the Beatles. 252 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,250 My picture of Elvis was the American dream. 253 00:12:33,283 --> 00:12:35,273 I mean, this was a kid from the South 254 00:12:35,300 --> 00:12:37,320 who had broken all the rules. 255 00:12:37,350 --> 00:12:41,120 But that didn't look like something you could be to me -- 256 00:12:41,150 --> 00:12:42,470 you know, to be Elvis. 257 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,070 But The Beatles, that looked like something 258 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:47,420 that could be done to me. 259 00:12:47,450 --> 00:12:50,080 Zollo: It was about having a real band with, you know, 260 00:12:50,116 --> 00:12:51,416 the visceral energy of rock 'n' roll. 261 00:12:51,450 --> 00:12:53,370 To Tom, that's what it was all about. 262 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,170 ♪♪ 263 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,280 Leadon: I was with Tom 264 00:12:57,316 --> 00:13:00,176 when he had heard she was on her deathbed 265 00:13:00,216 --> 00:13:04,246 and there was nothing anyone could do, and he was devastated. 266 00:13:04,283 --> 00:13:08,183 ♪♪ 267 00:13:10,016 --> 00:13:11,396 Woman: The autopsy on rocker Tom Petty 268 00:13:11,433 --> 00:13:13,183 has not revealed a cause of death. 269 00:13:13,216 --> 00:13:16,076 The coroner is now awaiting toxicology results. 270 00:13:16,116 --> 00:13:18,396 The 66-year-old was found unresponsive 271 00:13:18,433 --> 00:13:20,333 and in cardiac arrest on Sunday. 272 00:13:20,366 --> 00:13:23,096 Foul play is not suspected. 273 00:13:23,133 --> 00:13:26,453 ♪♪ 274 00:13:26,483 --> 00:13:31,183 As a teenager, all Tom wanted to do was play live 275 00:13:31,216 --> 00:13:34,126 and learn music. 276 00:13:34,166 --> 00:13:37,346 Tom Petty's first band was with a few local lads 277 00:13:37,383 --> 00:13:40,253 in Gainesville called The Sundowners. 278 00:13:40,283 --> 00:13:46,053 We all got together in Tom's living room and set the band up. 279 00:13:46,083 --> 00:13:48,033 Zollo: Tom said the first time they plugged in and played together, 280 00:13:48,066 --> 00:13:50,166 he said, "Biggest rush of my life." 281 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,250 And once Tom got this little group together, that was it. 282 00:13:53,283 --> 00:13:56,353 It was practice every day. 283 00:13:56,383 --> 00:14:00,473 Leadon: I just was really struck with how good he was onstage, 284 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,470 how much charisma he had. 285 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,080 Zollo: Very early on, they got offered a weekly gig 286 00:14:05,116 --> 00:14:07,176 where they were making money as The Sundowners, 287 00:14:07,216 --> 00:14:09,996 and Tom said it started there and never stopped. 288 00:14:10,033 --> 00:14:11,403 Elam: Well, later, he gets into 289 00:14:11,433 --> 00:14:13,403 a bit of a rift with The Sundowners, 290 00:14:13,433 --> 00:14:17,253 and he leaves the band and joins another band -- The Epics. 291 00:14:17,283 --> 00:14:22,183 Eventually, the name "The Epics" just started seeming to be 292 00:14:22,216 --> 00:14:25,026 out-of-date with the music, 293 00:14:25,066 --> 00:14:27,266 and finally, Tom came up with Mudcrutch. 294 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:31,270 ♪♪ 295 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:33,380 Greene: Mudcrutch -- it was a lineup 296 00:14:33,416 --> 00:14:35,266 that changed over the years, 297 00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:39,250 but crucially, he met Mike Campbell and Benmont Tench, 298 00:14:39,283 --> 00:14:42,373 who were a huge part of the Heartbreakers later. 299 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,170 Halperin: They attracted a huge following. 300 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,100 They had no discrimination where they played. 301 00:14:47,133 --> 00:14:49,353 They were even playing in topless bars. 302 00:14:49,383 --> 00:14:53,183 Leadon: We played five nights a week, five hours a night, 303 00:14:53,216 --> 00:14:55,246 so it was a great education. 304 00:14:55,283 --> 00:14:58,003 ♪♪ 305 00:14:58,033 --> 00:15:02,103 Roberts: Tom started writing some great rock, 306 00:15:02,133 --> 00:15:04,353 and it kept getting harder and harder. 307 00:15:04,383 --> 00:15:07,323 It was pretty amazing. He was a great writer. 308 00:15:07,350 --> 00:15:10,000 They play a lot at the "Mudcrutch Farm," 309 00:15:10,033 --> 00:15:11,023 as they called it. 310 00:15:11,050 --> 00:15:12,170 Boulware: It's like a mini Woodstock. 311 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,220 Everyone showed up with their sleeping bag, 312 00:15:14,250 --> 00:15:17,300 and the band set up and just played until they got tired. 313 00:15:17,333 --> 00:15:18,453 Roberts: We started talking about, 314 00:15:18,483 --> 00:15:20,173 "Well, we got to do something. 315 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,330 We got to do a demo tape, and let's try to get a record deal." 316 00:15:24,366 --> 00:15:26,476 ♪♪ 317 00:15:27,016 --> 00:15:29,096 Petty: In Gainesville at the time, there was no -- 318 00:15:29,133 --> 00:15:31,483 probably still, there's no recording studio. 319 00:15:32,016 --> 00:15:35,316 There's no way to really get anything together 320 00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:39,100 beyond playing the college gigs and the bars. 321 00:15:39,133 --> 00:15:41,353 And so, we'd play all over the South, 322 00:15:41,383 --> 00:15:45,273 and after a while I said, "Well, I want to make a record." 323 00:15:45,300 --> 00:15:47,350 So I went out here. I drove out here. 324 00:15:47,383 --> 00:15:50,103 ♪♪ 325 00:15:50,133 --> 00:15:52,233 Roberts: We drove three days nonstop. 326 00:15:52,266 --> 00:15:54,196 We're like a bunch of explorers, 327 00:15:54,233 --> 00:15:56,333 'cause we're going across the desert for the first time. 328 00:15:56,366 --> 00:15:59,046 And we're like, "Wow, man, cactuses." 329 00:15:59,083 --> 00:16:01,433 Greene: When they go to LA, it's the ultimate small fish in, 330 00:16:01,466 --> 00:16:06,226 now, in the big pond, and there's sharks everywhere. 331 00:16:06,266 --> 00:16:10,146 We started going to payphones and get the yellow pages 332 00:16:10,183 --> 00:16:12,353 and go to record companies. 333 00:16:12,383 --> 00:16:14,453 And finally, we got an appointment 334 00:16:14,483 --> 00:16:16,423 with Shelter Records. 335 00:16:16,450 --> 00:16:20,180 Denny Cordell owned the label with Leon Russell, 336 00:16:20,216 --> 00:16:22,476 and he was like, "Okay, I want to sign you guys." 337 00:16:23,016 --> 00:16:25,216 In the studio, they recorded their first single, 338 00:16:25,250 --> 00:16:28,030 "Depot Street", in 1975, 339 00:16:28,066 --> 00:16:30,076 and the single didn't do anything. 340 00:16:30,116 --> 00:16:31,996 Greene: I mean, they're this huge Gainesville band. 341 00:16:32,033 --> 00:16:34,473 They cut one single that was barely released, 342 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,170 and then the whole thing just collapsed. 343 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,430 Elam: And at this point, the record label, it's like, 344 00:16:40,466 --> 00:16:42,176 "We're done with you." 345 00:16:42,216 --> 00:16:47,176 But they realize that they have a great talent in Tom Petty, 346 00:16:47,216 --> 00:16:49,146 so they want to keep him. 347 00:16:49,183 --> 00:16:50,403 But it wasn't working. 348 00:16:50,433 --> 00:16:52,433 Tom didn't want to be a solo artist. 349 00:16:52,466 --> 00:16:57,196 He knew he needed a band -- his surrogate family. 350 00:16:57,233 --> 00:17:00,353 So that's when he forms Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers 351 00:17:00,383 --> 00:17:04,423 with ex-Mudcrutch members Mike Campbell and Benmont Tench 352 00:17:04,450 --> 00:17:07,070 and two other Gainesville musicians -- 353 00:17:07,100 --> 00:17:10,270 drummer Stan Lynch and bassist Ron Blair. 354 00:17:10,300 --> 00:17:14,170 Once Tom formed the Heartbreakers, 355 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,330 they went into the studio, 356 00:17:15,366 --> 00:17:18,076 and everything that wasn't working for them 357 00:17:18,116 --> 00:17:21,376 as Mudcrutch was working for them now. 358 00:17:21,416 --> 00:17:23,346 DeCurtis: That first Tom Petty record, 359 00:17:23,383 --> 00:17:25,103 it was such a distinctive sound. 360 00:17:25,133 --> 00:17:28,333 There was a sense in which Petty, you know, 361 00:17:28,366 --> 00:17:33,416 tapped into whatever the deepest sources of rock 'n' roll are. 362 00:17:33,450 --> 00:17:38,130 It was both instantly familiar and very distinctive. 363 00:17:38,166 --> 00:17:41,226 ♪♪ 364 00:17:41,266 --> 00:17:42,476 McKittrick: The unfortunate thing is 365 00:17:43,016 --> 00:17:44,076 they recorded this great album, 366 00:17:44,116 --> 00:17:47,166 they put it out in the world -- it did not sell. 367 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,020 But meanwhile, across the pond, 368 00:17:50,050 --> 00:17:51,320 they were doing fantastically well. 369 00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:53,050 They broke in England first. 370 00:17:53,083 --> 00:17:55,283 McKittrick: Their music was actually on the charts. 371 00:17:55,316 --> 00:17:57,316 So Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers 372 00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:59,170 did a tour over there, 373 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,230 and they had a top-40 hit with "Anything That's Rock'n'Roll," 374 00:18:02,266 --> 00:18:05,476 which they played on BBC's "Top of the Pops." 375 00:18:06,016 --> 00:18:07,396 ♪ Girl, you better grab hold ♪ 376 00:18:07,433 --> 00:18:09,183 ♪ Everybody's got to know ♪ 377 00:18:09,216 --> 00:18:11,396 ♪ Anything that's rock 'n' roll's fine ♪ 378 00:18:11,433 --> 00:18:13,153 ♪ Anything that's rock 'n' roll's fine ♪ 379 00:18:13,183 --> 00:18:16,233 ♪ Anything that's rock 'n' roll's fine ♪ 380 00:18:16,266 --> 00:18:17,416 They felt like rock stars 381 00:18:17,450 --> 00:18:20,170 because their music was being played on the radio. 382 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,430 They were on covers of magazines. 383 00:18:21,466 --> 00:18:23,316 They were in the music papers. 384 00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:26,250 But when they came back to Los Angeles, 385 00:18:26,283 --> 00:18:28,083 they were barely known. 386 00:18:28,116 --> 00:18:29,326 They had the album out there, 387 00:18:29,366 --> 00:18:31,226 and it just simply was not selling. 388 00:18:31,266 --> 00:18:34,326 ♪♪ 389 00:18:34,366 --> 00:18:38,096 George-Warren: It only takes one person to believe in you, 390 00:18:38,133 --> 00:18:40,333 and luckily for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, 391 00:18:40,366 --> 00:18:41,476 they would meet Jon Scott. 392 00:18:42,016 --> 00:18:44,016 This is my friend Jon Scott here. 393 00:18:44,050 --> 00:18:45,320 Hey, now! 394 00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:49,150 We call him "Sizzlin' Memphis Jon Scott." 395 00:18:49,183 --> 00:18:50,353 Scott: I got a job 396 00:18:50,383 --> 00:18:53,423 as head of national album promotion for ABC Records, 397 00:18:53,450 --> 00:18:56,020 and I sat and listened to this record. 398 00:18:56,050 --> 00:18:58,350 I'm kinda going, "This is pretty good." 399 00:18:58,383 --> 00:19:01,073 And then "Breakdown" came on... 400 00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:04,480 [ "Breakdown" plays ] 401 00:19:05,016 --> 00:19:07,396 ...and every hair on my body stood up. 402 00:19:07,433 --> 00:19:10,473 I get chill bumps, and I said, "This is a hit record." 403 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,270 ♪ Baby ♪ 404 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:14,230 ♪ Breakdown ♪ 405 00:19:14,266 --> 00:19:16,166 ♪ Go ahead and give it to me ♪ 406 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,400 ♪ Breakdown ♪ 407 00:19:17,433 --> 00:19:20,123 ♪ Now I'm standin' here, can't you see? ♪ 408 00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:22,220 Side two ended with "American Girl." 409 00:19:22,250 --> 00:19:27,130 ♪ Well, she was an American girl ♪ 410 00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:30,396 ♪ Raised on promises ♪ 411 00:19:30,433 --> 00:19:33,123 Scott: At that moment, I was in a trance 412 00:19:33,150 --> 00:19:35,480 because this music hit me so hard. 413 00:19:36,016 --> 00:19:39,346 I got up and ran to my boss' office and said, 414 00:19:39,383 --> 00:19:41,003 "Who are these guys?" 415 00:19:41,033 --> 00:19:43,333 Well, he said, "Oh, this is that punk band, 416 00:19:43,366 --> 00:19:45,096 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers." 417 00:19:45,133 --> 00:19:47,333 And I looked at him, I said, "What do you mean, 'punk band'? 418 00:19:47,366 --> 00:19:49,066 This is a rock 'n' roll band." 419 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:50,330 He's laughing, "Look at this guy. 420 00:19:50,366 --> 00:19:52,396 He's got black leather jacket on, 421 00:19:52,433 --> 00:19:54,153 bullets around his neck. 422 00:19:54,183 --> 00:19:56,423 Radio stations are telling us it's a punk band, 423 00:19:56,450 --> 00:19:59,400 and so we're gonna drop him from the label." 424 00:19:59,433 --> 00:20:01,123 I said, "Don't drop him. 425 00:20:01,150 --> 00:20:05,270 Just give me six weeks to try and get this record played." 426 00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:07,100 McKittrick: He actually went to the band 427 00:20:07,133 --> 00:20:10,023 after one of their shows at the Whisky a Go Go. 428 00:20:10,050 --> 00:20:11,270 Scott: And I said, "Tom, have you ever heard your record 429 00:20:11,300 --> 00:20:12,350 on the radio in Los Angeles?" 430 00:20:12,383 --> 00:20:14,133 And he went, "No, why?" 431 00:20:14,166 --> 00:20:16,176 I said, "Well, you're gonna start hearing it Monday morning 432 00:20:16,216 --> 00:20:19,216 once an hour, every hour, on a new rock station." 433 00:20:19,250 --> 00:20:21,150 And he went, "Bullshit." 434 00:20:21,183 --> 00:20:23,353 And for some reason, I just turned around and said, 435 00:20:23,383 --> 00:20:26,153 "Tom Petty, I'm gonna break your career wide open." 436 00:20:26,183 --> 00:20:30,203 ♪♪ 437 00:20:32,033 --> 00:20:34,003 Welcome back to "How It Really Happened." 438 00:20:34,033 --> 00:20:35,203 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers 439 00:20:35,233 --> 00:20:37,123 release their self-titled first album, 440 00:20:37,150 --> 00:20:40,220 and after a slow start, their songs were charting. 441 00:20:40,250 --> 00:20:43,200 They were on their way to becoming superstars -- 442 00:20:43,233 --> 00:20:45,283 that was, until Tom Petty decided 443 00:20:45,316 --> 00:20:47,126 to stand up to his record company 444 00:20:47,166 --> 00:20:50,026 and take on a fight he wasn't sure he could win. 445 00:20:50,066 --> 00:20:52,266 ♪♪ 446 00:20:52,300 --> 00:20:54,350 Elam: Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers are riding high. 447 00:20:54,383 --> 00:20:58,203 1978, they come out with "You're Gonna Get It!," 448 00:20:58,233 --> 00:21:01,123 and then they're working -- just the next year, 1979 -- 449 00:21:01,150 --> 00:21:03,330 on "Damn the Torpedoes." 450 00:21:03,366 --> 00:21:06,996 This is really feeling like one of their best albums. 451 00:21:07,033 --> 00:21:09,003 Greene: They worked for months on that record 452 00:21:09,033 --> 00:21:10,403 and had songs like "Refugee"... 453 00:21:10,433 --> 00:21:12,353 ♪ You see you don't ♪ 454 00:21:12,383 --> 00:21:15,433 ♪ Have to live like a refugee ♪ 455 00:21:15,466 --> 00:21:19,346 ♪ Don't have to live like a refugee ♪ 456 00:21:19,383 --> 00:21:22,103 Greene: ...and that record was the culmination of everything 457 00:21:22,133 --> 00:21:24,223 that he'd been working for for his whole life. 458 00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:26,350 Just every song was great. 459 00:21:26,383 --> 00:21:29,003 ♪ Here comes my girl ♪ 460 00:21:29,033 --> 00:21:31,033 Zollo: "Here Comes My Girl" was also on "Damn the Torpedoes." 461 00:21:31,066 --> 00:21:33,446 ♪ Here comes my girl ♪ 462 00:21:33,483 --> 00:21:37,073 It just shows that early on, Tom got good as a writer. 463 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:39,300 He was writing classics from the beginning, 464 00:21:39,333 --> 00:21:42,473 and he had a lot of diligence and great work ethic. 465 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,370 But it all came down to the passion. 466 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,120 That's what drove him. 467 00:21:46,150 --> 00:21:48,300 Elam: They're in sync. They're gelling. 468 00:21:48,333 --> 00:21:51,133 They're loving this third album that they're putting out, 469 00:21:51,166 --> 00:21:52,366 but before it comes out, 470 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,100 the record label that they're with 471 00:21:54,133 --> 00:21:56,033 gets sold to another record label, 472 00:21:56,066 --> 00:21:59,196 and during that time is when he realizes 473 00:21:59,233 --> 00:22:02,333 how slimy the music business could be. 474 00:22:02,366 --> 00:22:05,346 ♪♪ 475 00:22:05,383 --> 00:22:07,353 As a young kid signing this contract, 476 00:22:07,383 --> 00:22:08,433 he did not understand 477 00:22:08,466 --> 00:22:11,166 that he was signing away publishing rights. 478 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,250 He didn't know that meant 479 00:22:12,283 --> 00:22:15,033 that he wouldn't have ownership of it. 480 00:22:15,066 --> 00:22:18,226 So he decides that he's going to fight 481 00:22:18,266 --> 00:22:20,416 the big, bad music company. 482 00:22:20,450 --> 00:22:24,200 He goes so far to file for bankruptcy 483 00:22:24,233 --> 00:22:26,233 to make it really clear 484 00:22:26,266 --> 00:22:29,346 that he was not going to take this deal 485 00:22:29,383 --> 00:22:34,183 without having the rights to his own music. 486 00:22:34,216 --> 00:22:36,016 Halperin: They sued him. 487 00:22:36,050 --> 00:22:39,170 It ended up in court -- a lot of litigation. 488 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:45,250 In fact, he actually did a tour just to pay for his legal bills. 489 00:22:45,283 --> 00:22:47,433 When they went on tour during the trial, 490 00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:50,266 they called it the "Lawsuit Tour." 491 00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:52,000 Halperin: He wouldn't back down. 492 00:22:52,033 --> 00:22:53,333 He really wanted justice 493 00:22:53,366 --> 00:22:57,046 and he wanted to be paid properly, 494 00:22:57,083 --> 00:23:00,283 and in the end, he won. 495 00:23:00,316 --> 00:23:03,096 And that was a seminal point in the music business 496 00:23:03,133 --> 00:23:06,173 because that created a lot of precedent for other artists 497 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,220 to stand up to their record labels. 498 00:23:08,250 --> 00:23:10,400 ♪♪ 499 00:23:10,433 --> 00:23:12,083 That was one of the hardest parts for him 500 00:23:12,116 --> 00:23:14,346 when he was fighting all those fights at that point. 501 00:23:14,383 --> 00:23:16,253 It really drained his spirit. 502 00:23:16,283 --> 00:23:18,153 There were times when he could have lost everything 503 00:23:18,183 --> 00:23:20,233 or he could have given up, but he never gave in. 504 00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:22,266 He fought those fights. 505 00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:25,350 ♪♪ 506 00:23:25,383 --> 00:23:30,203 During this time, in 1980, Tom's mom passes away. 507 00:23:30,233 --> 00:23:32,183 She's been battling epilepsy. 508 00:23:32,216 --> 00:23:34,346 She has been sick for so long. 509 00:23:34,383 --> 00:23:36,083 She eventually gets cancer. 510 00:23:36,116 --> 00:23:38,996 She was only 53 years old. 511 00:23:39,033 --> 00:23:40,183 Leadon: I was with Tom 512 00:23:40,216 --> 00:23:43,096 when he had heard she was on her deathbed, 513 00:23:43,133 --> 00:23:46,023 and there was nothing that anyone could do. 514 00:23:46,050 --> 00:23:48,020 Elam: It's a massive loss for Tom. 515 00:23:48,050 --> 00:23:50,350 It was a little bit of an untethering for Tom 516 00:23:50,383 --> 00:23:53,233 because she was his angel. 517 00:23:53,266 --> 00:23:58,326 Leadon: He knew that he had her total support and love. 518 00:23:58,366 --> 00:24:04,016 She really believed in him as a person and as an artist. 519 00:24:04,050 --> 00:24:06,430 She loved him unconditionally. 520 00:24:06,466 --> 00:24:08,396 He was devastated. 521 00:24:08,433 --> 00:24:11,203 ♪♪ 522 00:24:11,233 --> 00:24:12,433 Zollo: During the early '80s, 523 00:24:12,466 --> 00:24:14,096 that was a crazy time in his life. 524 00:24:14,133 --> 00:24:17,003 It was also the start of MTV. 525 00:24:17,033 --> 00:24:24,273 ♪♪ 526 00:24:24,300 --> 00:24:26,330 DeCurtis: Many artists of Tom Petty's generation, 527 00:24:26,366 --> 00:24:30,126 you know, kind of rolled their eyes when MTV came along. 528 00:24:30,166 --> 00:24:31,426 You know, there was this element of, you know, 529 00:24:31,466 --> 00:24:34,346 "I'm a rock star. I'm not an actor." 530 00:24:34,383 --> 00:24:36,433 But I think Petty thought, 531 00:24:36,466 --> 00:24:39,166 "You know, let's see what we can do here." 532 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,150 And when you think about those videos like 533 00:24:42,183 --> 00:24:44,123 "Mary Jane's Last Dance"... 534 00:24:44,150 --> 00:24:46,350 ♪ Last dance with Mary Jane ♪ 535 00:24:46,383 --> 00:24:51,023 ♪ One more time to kill the pain ♪ 536 00:24:51,050 --> 00:24:53,100 ...and "Don't Come Around Here No More," 537 00:24:53,133 --> 00:24:55,453 they're like watching little movies. 538 00:24:55,483 --> 00:24:59,183 ♪ Don't come around here no more ♪ 539 00:24:59,216 --> 00:25:02,296 Zollo: MTV just made them even more famous. 540 00:25:02,333 --> 00:25:05,123 ♪♪ 541 00:25:05,150 --> 00:25:07,000 They were really on a roller coaster there 542 00:25:07,033 --> 00:25:10,173 for a while where they would do another album and a big tour, 543 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,150 and another album, and it never really stopped. 544 00:25:13,183 --> 00:25:15,273 And that's when there was a lot of cocaine, 545 00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:18,070 and, you know, even when they were partying all the time, 546 00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:20,100 they didn't just get crazy. 547 00:25:20,133 --> 00:25:21,373 They liked to party and then do good music. 548 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,000 I mean, it was always about that, 549 00:25:23,033 --> 00:25:25,003 and Tom would come up with great stuff. 550 00:25:25,033 --> 00:25:27,423 ♪♪ 551 00:25:27,450 --> 00:25:29,220 Greene: No one knew at the time, 552 00:25:29,250 --> 00:25:33,180 but the late '90s was a really dark period. 553 00:25:33,216 --> 00:25:36,176 George-Warren: Heroin was just this blanket of numb, 554 00:25:36,216 --> 00:25:41,096 and I think, horribly, that was the enticement. 555 00:25:41,133 --> 00:25:45,033 ♪♪ 556 00:25:47,050 --> 00:25:50,020 ♪♪ 557 00:25:50,050 --> 00:25:52,080 McKittrick: With this great success on MTV, 558 00:25:52,116 --> 00:25:53,326 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers 559 00:25:53,366 --> 00:25:57,296 were also having great success on radio and in album sales. 560 00:25:57,333 --> 00:26:01,103 One album after another were major hits on the charts. 561 00:26:01,133 --> 00:26:03,423 "Long After Dark," "Southern Accents," 562 00:26:03,450 --> 00:26:05,220 "Let Me Up (I've Had Enough)." 563 00:26:05,250 --> 00:26:07,000 It enabled the Heartbreakers 564 00:26:07,033 --> 00:26:10,483 to do these massive concert tours. 565 00:26:11,016 --> 00:26:12,246 After the Heartbreakers had 566 00:26:12,283 --> 00:26:16,073 an extremely successful 1980s decade, 567 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:18,020 Tom Petty was ready to do something different, 568 00:26:18,050 --> 00:26:21,080 and it soon became apparent that "Full Moon Fever" 569 00:26:21,116 --> 00:26:23,176 was not going to be a Heartbreakers album. 570 00:26:23,216 --> 00:26:26,466 It was going to be a Tom Petty solo album -- his first. 571 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,080 This was something that did not sit well 572 00:26:29,116 --> 00:26:30,176 with the other Heartbreakers, 573 00:26:30,216 --> 00:26:33,326 particularly with Stan Lynch, the drummer. 574 00:26:33,366 --> 00:26:35,116 Zollo: After "Full Moon Fever," 575 00:26:35,150 --> 00:26:36,330 you know, he played again with the Heartbreakers. 576 00:26:36,366 --> 00:26:37,346 That's who he was. 577 00:26:37,383 --> 00:26:39,303 His solo work was tremendous, 578 00:26:39,333 --> 00:26:41,183 but he always came back to the band. 579 00:26:41,216 --> 00:26:42,346 They're the Heartbreakers, after all, 580 00:26:42,383 --> 00:26:44,473 some of the great musicians of our time. 581 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,480 Tom Petty -- he was the boss in the band, in a sense. 582 00:26:49,016 --> 00:26:51,296 He really had a musical vision 583 00:26:51,333 --> 00:26:53,433 and he had big ears in the studio, 584 00:26:53,466 --> 00:26:57,096 but there was acrimony between him and the drummer, 585 00:26:57,133 --> 00:27:01,023 Stan Lynch, who had been in the band since the beginning. 586 00:27:01,050 --> 00:27:02,380 He and Stan did not get along. 587 00:27:02,416 --> 00:27:04,266 They were always arguing. 588 00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:07,070 But he loved Stan's playing, especially live. 589 00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:09,320 ♪♪ 590 00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:11,250 But Tom realized, "As great as he is, 591 00:27:11,283 --> 00:27:12,423 I don't want to argue all the time." 592 00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:16,200 And he had to fire Stan, and that was very hard for him. 593 00:27:16,233 --> 00:27:19,123 During this entire period, Tom Petty is still married 594 00:27:19,150 --> 00:27:21,100 to his high-school sweetheart. 595 00:27:21,133 --> 00:27:23,173 He and Jane have two daughters. 596 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,100 Leadon: Jane loved the band. 597 00:27:25,133 --> 00:27:29,233 She was the perfect companion for Tom for many years. 598 00:27:29,266 --> 00:27:33,246 I think, personally, that it's hard on a relationship 599 00:27:33,283 --> 00:27:36,073 when they're spending a lot of time apart, 600 00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:41,170 as Tom had to do when he went on the road so much. 601 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,130 Elam: They weren't making each other as happy, 602 00:27:43,166 --> 00:27:47,346 and it was clear that changes needed to be made. 603 00:27:47,383 --> 00:27:51,273 Tom moved out of their house in Encino and moved to a house 604 00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:53,300 that he would later call the chicken shack. 605 00:27:53,333 --> 00:27:56,353 And what was good and bad about that situation 606 00:27:56,383 --> 00:27:58,353 is it gave Tom a lot of opportunity 607 00:27:58,383 --> 00:28:01,273 to write songs by himself, 608 00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:03,280 but the bad part about it is he was alone. 609 00:28:03,316 --> 00:28:06,376 He was in a difficult place in his life, 610 00:28:06,416 --> 00:28:08,466 and he had no one to turn to. 611 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,170 Even though he did feel, from my understanding, 612 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,150 that the marriage was over, 613 00:28:13,183 --> 00:28:15,253 leaving the family -- that's hard for anyone. 614 00:28:15,283 --> 00:28:17,433 He was a loving dad. 615 00:28:17,466 --> 00:28:19,146 He adored his girls. 616 00:28:19,183 --> 00:28:23,173 After the divorce, it was a tough time. 617 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,420 George-Warren: Tom Petty's album "Wildflowers" 618 00:28:25,450 --> 00:28:28,330 is really the mirror to his soul, 619 00:28:28,366 --> 00:28:32,166 I think, in that period of the mid-1990s. 620 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,170 He was in his mid-40s then, 621 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,080 and that kind of change is massive. 622 00:28:37,116 --> 00:28:42,076 And I think he was dealing with all these things by crafting 623 00:28:42,116 --> 00:28:44,416 this amazing record -- "Wildflowers." 624 00:28:44,450 --> 00:28:48,470 Songs like "Time to Move On" and "You Don't Know How It Feels." 625 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,420 ♪ You don't know how it feels ♪ 626 00:28:51,450 --> 00:28:56,350 ♪ No, you don't know how it feels ♪ 627 00:28:56,383 --> 00:29:01,133 ♪ To be me ♪ 628 00:29:01,166 --> 00:29:02,466 George-Warren: You get all these different kinds of emotions. 629 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,080 You get this bittersweet sadness. 630 00:29:05,116 --> 00:29:06,296 You get this anger. 631 00:29:06,333 --> 00:29:08,373 You get this resentment. 632 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,050 ♪ Rescue me ♪ 633 00:29:10,083 --> 00:29:11,153 George-Warren: "You Wreck Me." 634 00:29:11,183 --> 00:29:12,403 You know, you get the anger. 635 00:29:12,433 --> 00:29:14,283 "You wreck me, baby." 636 00:29:14,316 --> 00:29:17,316 ♪ You wreck me, baby ♪ 637 00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:20,300 ♪ Yeah, you break me in two ♪ 638 00:29:20,333 --> 00:29:22,053 ♪♪ 639 00:29:22,083 --> 00:29:23,253 Elam: So, his marriage 640 00:29:23,283 --> 00:29:26,253 and Stan's relationship with the Heartbreakers, 641 00:29:26,283 --> 00:29:28,403 they're breaking up at about the same time. 642 00:29:28,433 --> 00:29:32,033 These losses hit Tom Petty pretty hard, 643 00:29:32,066 --> 00:29:35,326 and so he descends into a clinical depression. 644 00:29:35,366 --> 00:29:36,996 He knows he needs to get help, 645 00:29:37,033 --> 00:29:42,173 but he's relying on self-medicating with heroin. 646 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,480 And his addiction gets really bad. 647 00:29:44,016 --> 00:29:46,196 It's a dark time. 648 00:29:46,233 --> 00:29:48,273 I did see him during that period. 649 00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:52,150 He was not the happy Tom I knew, and it was tough to see that. 650 00:29:52,183 --> 00:29:54,023 He just seemed really despondent. 651 00:29:54,050 --> 00:29:55,430 I didn't know if he was on something -- 652 00:29:55,466 --> 00:29:59,416 I wasn't sure -- but I sensed something was going on. 653 00:29:59,450 --> 00:30:04,220 Elam: Tom hadn't taken the time to deal with the battle scars 654 00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:07,080 that he had built up throughout his lifetime -- 655 00:30:07,116 --> 00:30:11,096 dealing with the relationship he had with his father 656 00:30:11,133 --> 00:30:14,023 and the emotional baggage 657 00:30:14,050 --> 00:30:18,350 that had weighted him down through all of these years. 658 00:30:18,383 --> 00:30:21,023 Leadon: Tom never really reconciled completely 659 00:30:21,050 --> 00:30:22,230 with his father. 660 00:30:22,266 --> 00:30:24,176 His father would come to the concerts, 661 00:30:24,216 --> 00:30:27,266 and Tom would give his father money. 662 00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:32,070 I didn't think Earl ever really gave Tom his approval. 663 00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:34,450 His dad had his gold and platinum records 664 00:30:34,483 --> 00:30:37,123 all over the walls, 665 00:30:37,150 --> 00:30:40,130 but Tom thought he just liked the status 666 00:30:40,166 --> 00:30:42,476 of being the dad of Tom Petty. 667 00:30:43,016 --> 00:30:46,146 I think he just had a hard time showing it. 668 00:30:46,183 --> 00:30:49,103 I tried to talk to him later, after his dad had died, 669 00:30:49,133 --> 00:30:56,123 and he just didn't think his dad really cared about him. 670 00:30:56,150 --> 00:31:00,000 George-Warren: Heroin was just this blanket of numb, 671 00:31:00,033 --> 00:31:07,003 and I think, horribly, that was the enticement for Tom Petty. 672 00:31:07,033 --> 00:31:09,353 Elam: Tom had a lot of self-realization to do 673 00:31:09,383 --> 00:31:11,103 to get off of heroin. 674 00:31:11,133 --> 00:31:15,183 He went into extreme clinical therapy and hospitalization, 675 00:31:15,216 --> 00:31:17,096 and he was able to kick it. 676 00:31:17,133 --> 00:31:19,183 ♪♪ 677 00:31:19,216 --> 00:31:23,226 There's so many painful things that we all go through in life, 678 00:31:23,266 --> 00:31:28,346 and they become a load that you carry around. 679 00:31:28,383 --> 00:31:31,103 When you forgive those things, 680 00:31:31,133 --> 00:31:35,123 you can drop that load and move forward. 681 00:31:35,150 --> 00:31:38,120 Elam: He kicked heroin and restarted his life, 682 00:31:38,150 --> 00:31:41,370 and he found the love of his life -- Dana York. 683 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,470 When he was with Dana, he became a happy man again, 684 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,120 and she helped him in so many ways. 685 00:31:46,150 --> 00:31:49,130 She was a really genuine, wonderful person, 686 00:31:49,166 --> 00:31:52,116 and it was lucky that he met her. 687 00:31:52,150 --> 00:31:55,470 McKittrick: They got married at Petty's Malibu house, 688 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,030 which was actually administered 689 00:31:58,066 --> 00:32:00,026 by none other than Little Richard, 690 00:32:00,066 --> 00:32:03,166 which Tom Petty being such a huge rock 'n' roll fan, 691 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,130 was just over the moon about. 692 00:32:05,166 --> 00:32:07,116 ♪♪ 693 00:32:07,150 --> 00:32:09,130 [ Cheers and applause ] 694 00:32:09,166 --> 00:32:11,416 Halperin: Tom Petty had never seemed happier 695 00:32:11,450 --> 00:32:13,200 to people who knew him. 696 00:32:13,233 --> 00:32:14,403 Completely different person. 697 00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:17,433 Completely different outlook on life. 698 00:32:17,466 --> 00:32:19,426 Tom Petty was back. 699 00:32:19,466 --> 00:32:21,046 ♪♪ 700 00:32:21,083 --> 00:32:22,283 [ Cheers and applause ] 701 00:32:22,316 --> 00:32:23,476 When he leaves the stage, 702 00:32:24,016 --> 00:32:26,096 you can see he's limping off the stage, 703 00:32:26,133 --> 00:32:30,433 and that's the only indication that something wasn't right. 704 00:32:30,466 --> 00:32:34,116 ♪♪ 705 00:32:35,450 --> 00:32:37,270 I love to play. 706 00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:40,150 I love it when we all walk out and start to play, 707 00:32:40,183 --> 00:32:44,273 so I'm not ready to say that it's time to close the book. 708 00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:46,030 I'm just lucky to be here. 709 00:32:46,066 --> 00:32:48,016 Glad to be here. 710 00:32:48,050 --> 00:32:52,100 ♪♪ 711 00:32:52,133 --> 00:32:55,273 McKittrick: In 2008, Tom Petty put together a reunion 712 00:32:55,300 --> 00:32:56,450 at what he would later call 713 00:32:56,483 --> 00:32:59,403 "the least-requested reunion in rock history" 714 00:32:59,433 --> 00:33:02,133 of his original band, Mudcrutch. 715 00:33:02,166 --> 00:33:06,146 I thought we were just gonna go jam, maybe, for the weekend, 716 00:33:06,183 --> 00:33:09,253 but I talked to Tom several times and he said, 717 00:33:09,283 --> 00:33:11,273 "At some point, I'm sure there'll be a record deal." 718 00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:14,180 And I'm like, "Wow, we're gonna do a record." 719 00:33:14,216 --> 00:33:16,396 Boulware: I think he realized that his own roots 720 00:33:16,433 --> 00:33:18,453 were something he wanted to re-explore 721 00:33:18,483 --> 00:33:21,273 and that he had some great music to be made 722 00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:24,200 that didn't exactly fit the Heartbreakers format. 723 00:33:24,233 --> 00:33:26,353 ♪♪ 724 00:33:26,383 --> 00:33:30,223 The whole experience was just amazing. 725 00:33:30,250 --> 00:33:33,200 Tom did that whole thing -- the whole Mudcrutch thing -- 726 00:33:33,233 --> 00:33:36,203 for love, for brotherly love, 727 00:33:36,233 --> 00:33:38,433 and for good music and good times. 728 00:33:38,466 --> 00:33:40,466 ♪♪ 729 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,100 I wanna thank all of you for coming out tonight. 730 00:33:44,133 --> 00:33:49,423 [ Cheers and applause ] 731 00:33:49,450 --> 00:33:55,220 40 years with almost the same bandmates is remarkable. 732 00:33:55,250 --> 00:34:00,200 It says a lot about Tom Petty and what kind of leader he was. 733 00:34:00,233 --> 00:34:03,423 As you've probably heard, we're celebrating 734 00:34:03,450 --> 00:34:06,120 our 40th year on this tour. 735 00:34:06,150 --> 00:34:08,100 [ Cheers and applause ] 736 00:34:08,133 --> 00:34:10,383 It became one of the highest-grossing tours 737 00:34:10,416 --> 00:34:14,996 in recent times, mainly because people were just 738 00:34:15,033 --> 00:34:18,473 still so infatuated with Tom Petty. 739 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,250 And at the end of the tour -- which makes sense, 740 00:34:21,283 --> 00:34:24,233 because Tom Petty has made Los Angeles his home -- 741 00:34:24,266 --> 00:34:27,096 he ends at the Hollywood Bowl. 742 00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:29,433 And he's there onstage. 743 00:34:29,466 --> 00:34:32,366 It's September. It's a beautiful night. 744 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,070 People being there, celebrating them. 745 00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:41,030 Tonight is the very last show of a very long tour. 746 00:34:41,066 --> 00:34:44,296 [ Cheers and applause ] 747 00:34:45,383 --> 00:34:47,103 George-Warren: I would say there's probably 748 00:34:47,133 --> 00:34:49,273 three generations of fans 749 00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:53,420 that were at those Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers shows. 750 00:34:53,450 --> 00:34:59,030 I think that thought probably made him very, very happy. 751 00:34:59,066 --> 00:35:00,196 His married life is great. 752 00:35:00,233 --> 00:35:01,433 He's a grandfather. 753 00:35:01,466 --> 00:35:05,426 He's got all of these things that are just right in his life. 754 00:35:05,466 --> 00:35:08,316 Good night! 755 00:35:08,350 --> 00:35:12,250 But at the same time, when he leaves the stage, 756 00:35:12,283 --> 00:35:16,153 you can see he's limping off the stage, 757 00:35:16,183 --> 00:35:21,173 and that's the only indication that something wasn't right. 758 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,420 ♪♪ 759 00:35:23,450 --> 00:35:26,050 It turns out that he had fractured his hip 760 00:35:26,083 --> 00:35:27,283 many months earlier, 761 00:35:27,316 --> 00:35:31,146 and he went on tour this whole time with this fractured hip. 762 00:35:31,183 --> 00:35:33,123 Leadon: They had a motorized cart, 763 00:35:33,150 --> 00:35:35,150 and they'd take him from the dressing room 764 00:35:35,183 --> 00:35:38,473 to the stage stairs, help him up the stairs. 765 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,180 But he would never let on, 766 00:35:40,216 --> 00:35:42,246 when he was onstage, anything was wrong. 767 00:35:42,283 --> 00:35:46,183 But you see that he's having trouble moving around. 768 00:35:46,216 --> 00:35:48,096 George-Warren: And then, Tom found out that 769 00:35:48,133 --> 00:35:50,433 what he thought was a partial fracture 770 00:35:50,466 --> 00:35:53,126 was a full-on break in his hip. 771 00:35:53,166 --> 00:35:58,466 I can only imagine the sort of pain that he was suffering. 772 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,350 Man: From the entertainment world, we have just learned 773 00:36:00,383 --> 00:36:02,233 that legendary rock singer Tom Petty 774 00:36:02,266 --> 00:36:03,426 has been rushed to the hospital. 775 00:36:03,466 --> 00:36:07,246 Woman: Petty, who is 66, was found unconscious earlier today. 776 00:36:07,283 --> 00:36:11,173 It was like, "What? 777 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,150 What? Are you sure?" 778 00:36:13,183 --> 00:36:15,203 Freeman: According to reports, rocker Tom Petty 779 00:36:15,233 --> 00:36:17,033 of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, 780 00:36:17,066 --> 00:36:20,246 was found unconscious from heart failure. 781 00:36:20,283 --> 00:36:23,123 My son texted me like, "Did you hear?" 782 00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:27,080 Halperin: He suffered from numerous physical ailments... 783 00:36:27,116 --> 00:36:30,176 And I just was, "This has got to be a hoax." 784 00:36:30,216 --> 00:36:34,166 Halperin: ...emphysema, knee injury... 785 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,480 "This can't be real." 786 00:36:36,016 --> 00:36:37,326 Just didn't seem possible. 787 00:36:37,366 --> 00:36:42,246 And then he had this really bad hip. 788 00:36:42,283 --> 00:36:46,433 I'd seen him very sick on some of the tours, and he said, 789 00:36:46,466 --> 00:36:51,276 "When you have a tour like that booked, you go." 790 00:36:51,316 --> 00:36:55,146 He never wanted to disappoint his fans by canceling a concert. 791 00:36:55,183 --> 00:37:00,403 ♪♪ 792 00:37:00,433 --> 00:37:02,483 [ Voice breaking ] He'd been at the hospital. 793 00:37:03,016 --> 00:37:05,096 ♪♪ 794 00:37:05,133 --> 00:37:06,383 I'm gonna get emotional. 795 00:37:06,416 --> 00:37:12,396 I can't get through this without getting very emotional. 796 00:37:12,433 --> 00:37:18,003 Tom had had cardiac arrest and wasn't going to make it. 797 00:37:18,033 --> 00:37:20,183 He was on life support. 798 00:37:20,216 --> 00:37:23,076 Doctor said they were just kind of keeping him alive 799 00:37:23,116 --> 00:37:24,276 until the family could get there. 800 00:37:24,316 --> 00:37:26,316 And they finally took him off life support, 801 00:37:26,350 --> 00:37:28,170 and he passed away. 802 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,050 ♪♪ 803 00:37:31,083 --> 00:37:34,103 Fans are shocked and heartbroken 804 00:37:34,133 --> 00:37:36,383 over the sudden death of rock legend Tom Petty. 805 00:37:36,416 --> 00:37:39,346 According to his manager, Petty suffered cardiac arrest 806 00:37:39,383 --> 00:37:41,373 and could not be revived. 807 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,180 He was just 66 years old. 808 00:37:44,216 --> 00:37:46,076 And I'm just like, "What? 809 00:37:46,116 --> 00:37:47,266 He just played a concert. 810 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:49,000 How is this possible? 811 00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:51,273 How can he go from two hours at Hollywood Bowl 812 00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:53,100 to dead in seven days?" 813 00:37:53,133 --> 00:37:55,023 It just made no sense. 814 00:37:55,050 --> 00:37:58,120 ♪♪ 815 00:37:58,150 --> 00:38:00,070 Elam: When the autopsy comes out, 816 00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:03,030 that's when everyone learns that Tom Petty 817 00:38:03,066 --> 00:38:07,276 had a mix of different types of fentanyl in his body. 818 00:38:07,316 --> 00:38:10,026 He had a prescribed patch, but then there was also 819 00:38:10,066 --> 00:38:11,426 two other kinds that were in his body. 820 00:38:11,466 --> 00:38:13,476 Woman: The Los Angeles medical examiner 821 00:38:14,016 --> 00:38:17,166 says musician Tom Petty died of an accidental overdose 822 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,080 of several medications, including fentanyl. 823 00:38:20,116 --> 00:38:22,996 An autopsy revealed prescription opioids 824 00:38:23,033 --> 00:38:26,253 were in his system, along with sedatives and an antidepressant. 825 00:38:26,283 --> 00:38:29,183 Elam: There was a whole cocktail of drugs in his system, 826 00:38:29,216 --> 00:38:30,416 and who knows how these drugs 827 00:38:30,450 --> 00:38:33,070 may have been interacting within his body. 828 00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:36,430 Fentanyl is about 100 times more potent than morphine, 829 00:38:36,466 --> 00:38:39,216 50 times as potent as heroin. 830 00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:42,080 Fentanyl is used in anesthesia procedures 831 00:38:42,116 --> 00:38:43,396 all the time, in surgeries, 832 00:38:43,433 --> 00:38:46,073 for things like chronic back pain, 833 00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:47,320 hip pain, knee pain. 834 00:38:47,350 --> 00:38:50,220 But it leads to a cycle where now you're controlling the pain, 835 00:38:50,250 --> 00:38:52,400 but then you go out and do your rigorous tour 836 00:38:52,433 --> 00:38:54,373 or working or sports, 837 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,220 and it's kind of masking the pain. 838 00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:58,400 So the root problem's still there. 839 00:38:58,433 --> 00:39:00,433 Then when the pain medication wears off, 840 00:39:00,466 --> 00:39:04,166 the person's oftentimes left in a more painful state. 841 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,080 So then they require more pain medication to manage it. 842 00:39:08,116 --> 00:39:10,226 Halperin: He wore a fentanyl patch. 843 00:39:10,266 --> 00:39:15,066 But then, we later learned that he had two 844 00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:19,480 non-prescription fentanyl doses in his system. 845 00:39:20,016 --> 00:39:23,276 It was very similar to Prince. 846 00:39:23,316 --> 00:39:25,316 When Prince died, he had a bad hip, 847 00:39:25,350 --> 00:39:29,050 he resorted to fentanyl, and here we go. 848 00:39:29,083 --> 00:39:32,003 Another rock star dies. 849 00:39:32,033 --> 00:39:34,253 Woman: Petty's wife and daughter said the musician was suffering 850 00:39:34,283 --> 00:39:36,423 from a fractured hip that only got worse. 851 00:39:36,450 --> 00:39:38,330 They released this statement saying, 852 00:39:38,366 --> 00:39:41,166 "On the day he died, he was informed his hip 853 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,180 had graduated to a full-on break 854 00:39:43,216 --> 00:39:46,326 and it's our feeling that the pain was simply unbearable 855 00:39:46,366 --> 00:39:50,016 and was the cause for his over use of medication." 856 00:39:50,050 --> 00:39:53,420 I felt guilty that I wasn't there with him. 857 00:39:53,450 --> 00:39:55,250 He may not have wanted me to be there, 858 00:39:55,283 --> 00:39:57,023 but I felt like 859 00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:59,320 there could have been something I could have done. 860 00:39:59,350 --> 00:40:01,350 This is my friend Jon Scott here. 861 00:40:01,383 --> 00:40:03,103 Scott: It's tough. 862 00:40:03,133 --> 00:40:06,173 It's really tough when you have a friend like that for 40 years, 863 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,120 and it's just -- 864 00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:11,150 you saw him a week ago, and the next week, he's gone. 865 00:40:11,183 --> 00:40:14,123 That's all I can say. It was just -- 866 00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:17,180 I still don't believe it, to be honest with you. 867 00:40:17,216 --> 00:40:21,296 Leadon: For me, he was always that teenage guy, you know? 868 00:40:21,333 --> 00:40:23,123 I remember him smiling 869 00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:26,270 the last time I saw him as he was driven away. 870 00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:29,470 It's the same smile, you know, that I used to always get 871 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,380 if he was happy, you know, and glad to see me. 872 00:40:33,416 --> 00:40:38,016 ♪♪ 873 00:40:38,050 --> 00:40:40,030 DeCurtis: Tom Petty's legacy is his songs. 874 00:40:40,066 --> 00:40:42,096 There's no doubt about that. 875 00:40:42,133 --> 00:40:46,373 Tom Petty's songs come across as powerfully now, 876 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,080 when you hear them, as when you first heard them. 877 00:40:50,116 --> 00:40:52,196 Greene: Tom will be seen as one of the great songwriters 878 00:40:52,233 --> 00:40:53,383 of the 20th century. 879 00:40:53,416 --> 00:40:57,316 Just somebody that tapped into something so American. 880 00:40:57,350 --> 00:40:59,350 It's a remarkable gift. 881 00:40:59,383 --> 00:41:02,253 Scott: Tom Petty was the greatest rock 'n' roll singer, 882 00:41:02,283 --> 00:41:05,033 rock star, that I've ever known in my life. 883 00:41:05,066 --> 00:41:08,316 And he was my hero, and he always will be. 884 00:41:08,350 --> 00:41:12,320 I can't think of anybody that could replace him. 885 00:41:12,350 --> 00:41:17,430 Songs mean something to people, and what more can you ask for? 886 00:41:17,466 --> 00:41:20,366 You know, if you're gonna be a songwriter 887 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,020 and have a rock 'n' roll band, what more can you ask for 888 00:41:25,050 --> 00:41:27,270 than for those songs to touch somebody that way? 889 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:30,030 It's just beautiful. 890 00:41:30,066 --> 00:41:33,166 During his career, Tom Petty made 13 studio albums 891 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,330 with the Heartbreakers. 892 00:41:34,366 --> 00:41:36,446 In addition, he released three solo albums, 893 00:41:36,483 --> 00:41:38,273 two albums with the Traveling Wilburys, 894 00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:40,180 and two with Mudcrutch. 895 00:41:40,216 --> 00:41:43,446 To say he was a prolific artist is an understatement. 896 00:41:43,483 --> 00:41:46,203 In 2018, a year after Petty's death, 897 00:41:46,233 --> 00:41:48,453 his family put out a tribute collection of his music, 898 00:41:48,483 --> 00:41:50,283 which included unreleased songs. 899 00:41:50,316 --> 00:41:52,366 His daughter Adria called the collection 900 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,430 "an American treasure" because, she says, he was one, 901 00:41:56,466 --> 00:41:58,366 and we couldn't agree more. 902 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,030 Thanks for watching. 903 00:42:00,066 --> 00:42:01,446 Good night. 904 00:42:01,483 --> 00:42:06,023 ♪♪ 70608

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