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♪♪
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I pinch myself all the time
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because I have
such a charmed life
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that I feel almost guilty
about it at times
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because things have really
worked out well,
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and I really enjoy my life
and what I'm doing.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Hey, everyone.
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Welcome to
"How It Really Happened."
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I'm Hill Harper.
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Tom Petty is
an American music icon
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whose brand
of classic rock 'n' roll
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with his band of musical
brothers, the Heartbreakers,
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spoke to millions
for over 40 years.
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Songs like "American Girl"
and "Free Fallin'"
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are the soundtrack to the lives
of fans around the world.
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Though a rock god to many,
he was as mortal as any of us --
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afflicted with the very human
traumas of childhood abuse,
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depression,
divorce, and addiction.
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In 2017, he embarked on
a gruelling six-month tour.
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One week after his triumphant
final show, he was dead.
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Tonight,
Tom Petty's mysterious ending,
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and how it really happened.
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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Petty: I wanna thank all of you
for coming out tonight!
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[ Cheers and applause continue ]
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We love you dearly.
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I want to thank you for 40 years
of a really great time.
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This was an opportunity
to sort of say thank you
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to all their fans who had
supported them over 40 years.
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Scott: It was like
the pinnacle of Tom's career,
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knowing that this might be
the last concert tour ever.
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It was huge.
They were selling out.
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McKittrick:
The 40th anniversary tour
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ended with three shows
at the Hollywood Bowl.
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50,000 people each time --
bigger than a small town.
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Just huge crowds.
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[ "American Girl" plays ]
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Fittingly, the last song
was "American Girl."
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♪ Well,
she was an American girl ♪
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♪ Raised on promises ♪
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Halperin:
People loved it.
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They gave him a rousing ovation.
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He loved his fans -- really,
seriously loved his fans --
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and they loved him back.
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♪ She was ♪
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♪ An American girl ♪
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These shows were fantastic, but
I think it put pressure on him.
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He wasn't in great
physical shape at that time.
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Thank you so much!
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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God bless ya! Good night!
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I didn't realize
that he was in a lot of pain.
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[ Cheers and applause continue ]
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When he leaves the stage,
you can see he's limping off.
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♪♪
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Something wasn't right.
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♪♪
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Sad news to report
this morning --
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rock legend Tom Petty has died.
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Scott:
We were watching TV.
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A bulletin came over saying
Tom Petty had passed away.
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Woman:
He passed away Monday
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after being rushed
to a Los Angeles hospital.
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He was found unconscious
in his Malibu home Sunday night.
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I'm like, "That's impossible.
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He -- He was there a week ago."
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DeCurtis:
It shocked me.
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When I heard that he had died,
I was just floored.
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Leadon: It's just really hard
to comprehend that
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that person that is such
a big part of your life is gone.
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Harben: I wish I could have been
there somehow to help him.
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That it was -- possibly
could have been prevented.
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Greene: How is this possible?
He just played a concert.
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How can he go from two hours
at Hollywood Bowl
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to dead in seven days?
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Petty: I wanna thank you for
40 years of a really great time.
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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Elam:
Tom Petty was basically a poet.
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He wrote these beautiful lyrics
that you could think,
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"Well, that applies to my life."
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[ "American Girl" plays ]
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George-Warren:
When I heard "American Girl,"
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that was it for me.
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That became my song.
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♪ Well,
she was an American girl ♪
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The lyrics really spoke to me.
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♪ She couldn't help thinkin'
that there ♪
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♪ Was a little more to life ♪
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♪ Somewhere else ♪
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♪ It was a beautiful day ♪
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I'm a huge fan of
"Running Down a Dream."
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♪ I had the radio on ♪
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♪ I was drivin' ♪
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Just such a -- such a rush.
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♪ Yeah, runnin' down a dream ♪
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♪ That never would come to me ♪
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"Refugee" was special.
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♪ It don't really matter to me,
baby ♪
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It's real rock 'n' roll,
but great rock 'n' roll.
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♪ You see you don't ♪
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♪ Have to live like a refugee ♪
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He distilled so much
of the country
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and its history into his songs.
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♪ And I'm free ♪
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DeCurtis:
"Free Fallin'," I think,
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is just an extraordinary song.
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♪ Free fallin' ♪
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DeCurtis: It captures,
in a very concise way,
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that combination of feelings
that you're both free
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and you're in free-fall.
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♪ Free fallin' ♪
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♪ Free fallin' ♪
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Scott: Tom's greatest talent
in the world --
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he could write songs
under three minutes
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that meant something
to most everybody.
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DeCurtis:
There's a reason why those songs
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meant something
to so many people,
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and that's because he said it,
he meant it, and you felt it,
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and, you know, that's what
any art sets out to do.
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Zollo: I definitely think Tom
will be considered
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one of the great champions
of rock 'n' roll,
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and his music
will live on forever.
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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♪♪
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Tom said time spent
with his dad --
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a lot of it, he felt scared.
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Elam: The abuse,
both physical and emotional,
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started very young.
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♪♪
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Generations of fans are mourning
the loss of Tom Petty,
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the singer/songwriter
once described as a quiet,
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unassuming rock legend.
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The 66-year-old was reportedly
rushed to a Los Angeles hospital
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Sunday night
in full cardiac arrest.
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Just a few hours ago, a family
spokesman confirmed he had died.
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♪♪
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Elam: Tom Petty was born
on October 20, 1950,
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in Gainesville, Florida.
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He had a younger brother
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who was about
eight years younger than him.
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Gainesville was a very sleepy,
little college town.
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Halperin: It was a very
working-class town.
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It was an amalgamation
of students and farmers,
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and there was
a big music scene.
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Harben: We had all the freedoms
in the world as children.
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We ran in the woods.
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We played
a little baseball together.
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We played football --
just having a great time.
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Leadon: He was
a natural-born entertainer.
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Even if you were just there
hanging out,
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just you and him,
he was doing his very best
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to make sure
you were entertained.
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He was very dry
but also very funny.
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Elam: Tom's mom, Kitty, worked
in a tax collector's office,
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and his dad, Earl,
was a traveling salesman.
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Leadon: Kitty was a real sweet,
soft-spoken,
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really Southern woman.
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His father was more traditional,
small-town Southern,
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and they didn't get along at all
in many ways.
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His dad was just a wild guy,
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and Tom said time spent
with his dad --
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a lot of it, he felt scared.
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Leadon:
Kitty was his rock.
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She was the one
who really believed in Tom.
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Halperin: His mother
fought numerous ailments
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throughout her whole life --
epilepsy and bouts of cancer --
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and Tom would always try to do
the best he could for her.
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♪♪
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I remember my uncle got a job --
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because he was
in the film business locally --
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on a movie set with Elvis on a
film called "Follow That Dream."
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My aunt drove up and said,
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"Would you like
to go see Elvis?"
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And I said sure, you know?
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And so, I went down,
and we did see Elvis.
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He really was just taken
by Elvis Presley
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and his performance
of songs like "Hound Dog."
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♪ You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog ♪
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♪ Cryin' all the time ♪
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♪ You ain't nothin'
but a hound dog ♪
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♪ Cryin' all the time ♪
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Harben: I was there waiting
when he came home,
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and he told me, "Hey,
I got to see Elvis Presley."
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And it was such a thrill to Tom.
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And I said, "Well, Tom,
my older sister, Linda,
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has a little rack
of 45 RPM records, all Elvis."
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So we made a trade,
and we traded for a slingshot.
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And that's when he became kind
of first obsessed and realized,
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I think, the power of music,
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when he got those early
Elvis records.
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Zollo: He got to learn
that early rock 'n' roll,
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and he loved it.
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He learned those songs
even before he could play them.
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Harben:
That following Christmas,
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he got an acoustical guitar
from Santa Claus.
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And he taught himself
how to play the guitar,
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and he played
and played and practiced.
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Zollo:
He learned four chords
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and almost immediately
started writing songs.
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Elvis kind of launched
the journey for Tom.
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I just played Elvis records
most of the time,
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and then when The Beatles
and The Stones
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and all that came along,
my father actually thought
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I had gone very strange
because I stayed in the house
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listening to records
all the time.
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Leadon: His father was
a hard-nosed Southern guy
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that had grown up in the
swamp country of north Florida
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next to
an alligator-filled lake.
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He was into hunting
and fishing and boozing.
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Tom was a sensitive,
artistic soul,
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and he had a very strong sense
of right and wrong.
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Harben: He was a gentle person,
and I don't know if that's
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because of his mother being such
a big influence on his life
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and maybe being his protector
from his fairly rough father.
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Tom said that sometimes,
he would just pop you.
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The abuse, both physical and
emotional, started very young.
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I think when he was 5 years old,
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Tom had been playing
with a slingshot
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and hit a pebble
into a Cadillac.
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Elam: When his father
found out about it,
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apparently, he took a belt
and just beat Tom to the point
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that he had welts
all over his body,
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his mother and his grandmother
having to tend to him.
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And he would say that his mom
would often step in the way
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to try to stop this abuse
against Tom from his father.
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Leadon: I didn't witness
the abuse that Tom spoke about,
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but I knew
they didn't get along,
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that there was a vibe there.
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I kind of escaped
into that world
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of just listening
very intently to these records.
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Looking back, I think it was
probably a safe place mentally
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for a really abused child.
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For Tom Petty, music --
rock 'n' roll --
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became really an escape hatch.
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♪♪
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Ladies and gentlemen,
The Beatles!
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When The Beatles appeared
on "The Ed Sullivan Show,"
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Tom Petty was watching.
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They played
"I Want to Hold Your Hand."
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♪ I think you'll understand ♪
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♪ When I ♪
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♪ Say that somethin' ♪
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♪ I want to hold your hand ♪
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♪ I want to hold your hand ♪
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Tom said as soon as he saw it,
he knew that was it.
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He never wanted to be Elvis.
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He wanted to be the Beatles.
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My picture of Elvis
was the American dream.
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I mean, this was a kid
from the South
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who had broken all the rules.
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But that didn't look like
something you could be to me --
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you know, to be Elvis.
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But The Beatles,
that looked like something
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that could be done to me.
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Zollo: It was about having
a real band with, you know,
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the visceral energy
of rock 'n' roll.
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To Tom, that's what
it was all about.
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♪♪
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Leadon:
I was with Tom
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when he had heard
she was on her deathbed
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and there was nothing anyone
could do, and he was devastated.
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♪♪
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Woman:
The autopsy on rocker Tom Petty
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has not revealed
a cause of death.
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The coroner is now awaiting
toxicology results.
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The 66-year-old
was found unresponsive
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and in cardiac arrest on Sunday.
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Foul play is not suspected.
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♪♪
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As a teenager, all Tom
wanted to do was play live
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and learn music.
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Tom Petty's first band
was with a few local lads
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in Gainesville
called The Sundowners.
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We all got together in Tom's
living room and set the band up.
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Zollo:
Tom said the first time they
plugged in and played together,
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he said,
"Biggest rush of my life."
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And once Tom got this little
group together, that was it.
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It was practice every day.
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Leadon: I just was really struck
with how good he was onstage,
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how much charisma he had.
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Zollo: Very early on,
they got offered a weekly gig
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where they were making money
as The Sundowners,
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and Tom said it started there
and never stopped.
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Elam:
Well, later, he gets into
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a bit of a rift
with The Sundowners,
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and he leaves the band and joins
another band -- The Epics.
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Eventually, the name "The Epics"
just started seeming to be
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out-of-date with the music,
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and finally,
Tom came up with Mudcrutch.
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♪♪
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Greene: Mudcrutch --
it was a lineup
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that changed over the years,
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but crucially, he met
Mike Campbell and Benmont Tench,
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who were a huge part
of the Heartbreakers later.
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Halperin:
They attracted a huge following.
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They had no discrimination
where they played.
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They were even playing
in topless bars.
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Leadon: We played five nights
a week, five hours a night,
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so it was a great education.
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♪♪
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Roberts: Tom started writing
some great rock,
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and it kept getting
harder and harder.
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It was pretty amazing.
He was a great writer.
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They play a lot
at the "Mudcrutch Farm,"
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as they called it.
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Boulware:
It's like a mini Woodstock.
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Everyone showed up
with their sleeping bag,
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and the band set up and just
played until they got tired.
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Roberts:
We started talking about,
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"Well, we got to do something.
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We got to do a demo tape, and
let's try to get a record deal."
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♪♪
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Petty: In Gainesville
at the time, there was no --
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probably still,
there's no recording studio.
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There's no way to really
get anything together
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beyond playing
the college gigs and the bars.
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And so,
we'd play all over the South,
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and after a while I said,
"Well, I want to make a record."
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So I went out here.
I drove out here.
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♪♪
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Roberts:
We drove three days nonstop.
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We're like a bunch of explorers,
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'cause we're going across
the desert for the first time.
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And we're like,
"Wow, man, cactuses."
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Greene: When they go to LA,
it's the ultimate small fish in,
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now, in the big pond,
and there's sharks everywhere.
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We started going to payphones
and get the yellow pages
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and go to record companies.
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And finally,
we got an appointment
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with Shelter Records.
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Denny Cordell owned the label
with Leon Russell,
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and he was like,
"Okay, I want to sign you guys."
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In the studio, they recorded
their first single,
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"Depot Street", in 1975,
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and the single
didn't do anything.
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Greene: I mean, they're this
huge Gainesville band.
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They cut one single
that was barely released,
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and then the whole thing
just collapsed.
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Elam: And at this point,
the record label, it's like,
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"We're done with you."
345
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But they realize that they have
a great talent in Tom Petty,
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so they want to keep him.
347
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But it wasn't working.
348
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Tom didn't want to be
a solo artist.
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He knew he needed a band --
his surrogate family.
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So that's when he forms
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
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with ex-Mudcrutch members
Mike Campbell and Benmont Tench
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and two other
Gainesville musicians --
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drummer Stan Lynch
and bassist Ron Blair.
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Once Tom formed
the Heartbreakers,
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they went into the studio,
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and everything
that wasn't working for them
357
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as Mudcrutch
was working for them now.
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DeCurtis:
That first Tom Petty record,
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it was such a distinctive sound.
360
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There was a sense in which
Petty, you know,
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tapped into whatever the deepest
sources of rock 'n' roll are.
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It was both instantly familiar
and very distinctive.
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♪♪
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McKittrick:
The unfortunate thing is
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they recorded this great album,
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they put it out in the world --
it did not sell.
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But meanwhile, across the pond,
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they were doing
fantastically well.
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They broke in England first.
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McKittrick: Their music
was actually on the charts.
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So Tom Petty
and the Heartbreakers
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did a tour over there,
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and they had a top-40 hit with
"Anything That's Rock'n'Roll,"
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which they played on BBC's
"Top of the Pops."
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♪ Girl, you better grab hold ♪
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♪ Everybody's got to know ♪
377
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♪ Anything that's
rock 'n' roll's fine ♪
378
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♪ Anything that's
rock 'n' roll's fine ♪
379
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♪ Anything that's
rock 'n' roll's fine ♪
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They felt like rock stars
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because their music
was being played on the radio.
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They were on covers
of magazines.
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They were in the music papers.
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But when they came back
to Los Angeles,
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they were barely known.
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They had the album out there,
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and it just simply
was not selling.
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♪♪
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George-Warren: It only takes
one person to believe in you,
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and luckily for Tom Petty
and the Heartbreakers,
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they would meet Jon Scott.
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This is my friend
Jon Scott here.
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Hey, now!
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We call him
"Sizzlin' Memphis Jon Scott."
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Scott:
I got a job
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as head of national
album promotion for ABC Records,
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and I sat and listened
to this record.
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I'm kinda going,
"This is pretty good."
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And then "Breakdown" came on...
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[ "Breakdown" plays ]
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...and every hair
on my body stood up.
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I get chill bumps, and I said,
"This is a hit record."
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♪ Baby ♪
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♪ Breakdown ♪
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♪ Go ahead and give it to me ♪
406
00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,400
♪ Breakdown ♪
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♪ Now I'm standin' here,
can't you see? ♪
408
00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:22,220
Side two ended with
"American Girl."
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♪ Well,
she was an American girl ♪
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♪ Raised on promises ♪
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Scott: At that moment,
I was in a trance
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because this music
hit me so hard.
413
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I got up and ran
to my boss' office and said,
414
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"Who are these guys?"
415
00:19:41,033 --> 00:19:43,333
Well, he said,
"Oh, this is that punk band,
416
00:19:43,366 --> 00:19:45,096
Tom Petty
and the Heartbreakers."
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00:19:45,133 --> 00:19:47,333
And I looked at him, I said,
"What do you mean, 'punk band'?
418
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This is a rock 'n' roll band."
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00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:50,330
He's laughing,
"Look at this guy.
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He's got
black leather jacket on,
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00:19:52,433 --> 00:19:54,153
bullets around his neck.
422
00:19:54,183 --> 00:19:56,423
Radio stations are telling us
it's a punk band,
423
00:19:56,450 --> 00:19:59,400
and so we're gonna drop him
from the label."
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I said, "Don't drop him.
425
00:20:01,150 --> 00:20:05,270
Just give me six weeks to try
and get this record played."
426
00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:07,100
McKittrick:
He actually went to the band
427
00:20:07,133 --> 00:20:10,023
after one of their shows
at the Whisky a Go Go.
428
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Scott: And I said, "Tom,
have you ever heard your record
429
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on the radio in Los Angeles?"
430
00:20:12,383 --> 00:20:14,133
And he went, "No, why?"
431
00:20:14,166 --> 00:20:16,176
I said, "Well, you're gonna
start hearing it Monday morning
432
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once an hour, every hour,
on a new rock station."
433
00:20:19,250 --> 00:20:21,150
And he went, "Bullshit."
434
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And for some reason,
I just turned around and said,
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00:20:23,383 --> 00:20:26,153
"Tom Petty, I'm gonna break
your career wide open."
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♪♪
437
00:20:32,033 --> 00:20:34,003
Welcome back to
"How It Really Happened."
438
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Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
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release their self-titled
first album,
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and after a slow start,
their songs were charting.
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They were on their way
to becoming superstars --
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00:20:43,233 --> 00:20:45,283
that was,
until Tom Petty decided
443
00:20:45,316 --> 00:20:47,126
to stand up
to his record company
444
00:20:47,166 --> 00:20:50,026
and take on a fight
he wasn't sure he could win.
445
00:20:50,066 --> 00:20:52,266
♪♪
446
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Elam: Tom Petty and the
Heartbreakers are riding high.
447
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1978, they come out with
"You're Gonna Get It!,"
448
00:20:58,233 --> 00:21:01,123
and then they're working --
just the next year, 1979 --
449
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on "Damn the Torpedoes."
450
00:21:03,366 --> 00:21:06,996
This is really feeling like
one of their best albums.
451
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Greene: They worked for months
on that record
452
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and had songs like "Refugee"...
453
00:21:10,433 --> 00:21:12,353
♪ You see you don't ♪
454
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♪ Have to live like a refugee ♪
455
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♪ Don't have to live
like a refugee ♪
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Greene: ...and that record was
the culmination of everything
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00:21:22,133 --> 00:21:24,223
that he'd been working for
for his whole life.
458
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Just every song was great.
459
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♪ Here comes my girl ♪
460
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Zollo: "Here Comes My Girl" was
also on "Damn the Torpedoes."
461
00:21:31,066 --> 00:21:33,446
♪ Here comes my girl ♪
462
00:21:33,483 --> 00:21:37,073
It just shows that early on,
Tom got good as a writer.
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He was writing classics
from the beginning,
464
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and he had a lot of diligence
and great work ethic.
465
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But it all came down
to the passion.
466
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That's what drove him.
467
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Elam: They're in sync.
They're gelling.
468
00:21:48,333 --> 00:21:51,133
They're loving this third album
that they're putting out,
469
00:21:51,166 --> 00:21:52,366
but before it comes out,
470
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the record label
that they're with
471
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gets sold
to another record label,
472
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and during that time
is when he realizes
473
00:21:59,233 --> 00:22:02,333
how slimy
the music business could be.
474
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♪♪
475
00:22:05,383 --> 00:22:07,353
As a young kid
signing this contract,
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he did not understand
477
00:22:08,466 --> 00:22:11,166
that he was signing away
publishing rights.
478
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,250
He didn't know that meant
479
00:22:12,283 --> 00:22:15,033
that he wouldn't
have ownership of it.
480
00:22:15,066 --> 00:22:18,226
So he decides that
he's going to fight
481
00:22:18,266 --> 00:22:20,416
the big, bad music company.
482
00:22:20,450 --> 00:22:24,200
He goes so far
to file for bankruptcy
483
00:22:24,233 --> 00:22:26,233
to make it really clear
484
00:22:26,266 --> 00:22:29,346
that he was not going to
take this deal
485
00:22:29,383 --> 00:22:34,183
without having the rights
to his own music.
486
00:22:34,216 --> 00:22:36,016
Halperin:
They sued him.
487
00:22:36,050 --> 00:22:39,170
It ended up in court --
a lot of litigation.
488
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:45,250
In fact, he actually did a tour
just to pay for his legal bills.
489
00:22:45,283 --> 00:22:47,433
When they went on tour
during the trial,
490
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they called it
the "Lawsuit Tour."
491
00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:52,000
Halperin:
He wouldn't back down.
492
00:22:52,033 --> 00:22:53,333
He really wanted justice
493
00:22:53,366 --> 00:22:57,046
and he wanted
to be paid properly,
494
00:22:57,083 --> 00:23:00,283
and in the end, he won.
495
00:23:00,316 --> 00:23:03,096
And that was a seminal point
in the music business
496
00:23:03,133 --> 00:23:06,173
because that created a lot
of precedent for other artists
497
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,220
to stand up
to their record labels.
498
00:23:08,250 --> 00:23:10,400
♪♪
499
00:23:10,433 --> 00:23:12,083
That was one of
the hardest parts for him
500
00:23:12,116 --> 00:23:14,346
when he was fighting
all those fights at that point.
501
00:23:14,383 --> 00:23:16,253
It really drained his spirit.
502
00:23:16,283 --> 00:23:18,153
There were times when
he could have lost everything
503
00:23:18,183 --> 00:23:20,233
or he could have given up,
but he never gave in.
504
00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:22,266
He fought those fights.
505
00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:25,350
♪♪
506
00:23:25,383 --> 00:23:30,203
During this time, in 1980,
Tom's mom passes away.
507
00:23:30,233 --> 00:23:32,183
She's been battling epilepsy.
508
00:23:32,216 --> 00:23:34,346
She has been sick for so long.
509
00:23:34,383 --> 00:23:36,083
She eventually gets cancer.
510
00:23:36,116 --> 00:23:38,996
She was only 53 years old.
511
00:23:39,033 --> 00:23:40,183
Leadon:
I was with Tom
512
00:23:40,216 --> 00:23:43,096
when he had heard
she was on her deathbed,
513
00:23:43,133 --> 00:23:46,023
and there was nothing
that anyone could do.
514
00:23:46,050 --> 00:23:48,020
Elam:
It's a massive loss for Tom.
515
00:23:48,050 --> 00:23:50,350
It was a little bit
of an untethering for Tom
516
00:23:50,383 --> 00:23:53,233
because she was his angel.
517
00:23:53,266 --> 00:23:58,326
Leadon: He knew that he had
her total support and love.
518
00:23:58,366 --> 00:24:04,016
She really believed in him
as a person and as an artist.
519
00:24:04,050 --> 00:24:06,430
She loved him unconditionally.
520
00:24:06,466 --> 00:24:08,396
He was devastated.
521
00:24:08,433 --> 00:24:11,203
♪♪
522
00:24:11,233 --> 00:24:12,433
Zollo:
During the early '80s,
523
00:24:12,466 --> 00:24:14,096
that was a crazy time
in his life.
524
00:24:14,133 --> 00:24:17,003
It was also the start of MTV.
525
00:24:17,033 --> 00:24:24,273
♪♪
526
00:24:24,300 --> 00:24:26,330
DeCurtis: Many artists
of Tom Petty's generation,
527
00:24:26,366 --> 00:24:30,126
you know, kind of rolled
their eyes when MTV came along.
528
00:24:30,166 --> 00:24:31,426
You know, there was
this element of, you know,
529
00:24:31,466 --> 00:24:34,346
"I'm a rock star.
I'm not an actor."
530
00:24:34,383 --> 00:24:36,433
But I think Petty thought,
531
00:24:36,466 --> 00:24:39,166
"You know, let's see
what we can do here."
532
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,150
And when you think about
those videos like
533
00:24:42,183 --> 00:24:44,123
"Mary Jane's Last Dance"...
534
00:24:44,150 --> 00:24:46,350
♪ Last dance with Mary Jane ♪
535
00:24:46,383 --> 00:24:51,023
♪ One more time
to kill the pain ♪
536
00:24:51,050 --> 00:24:53,100
...and "Don't Come Around Here
No More,"
537
00:24:53,133 --> 00:24:55,453
they're like watching
little movies.
538
00:24:55,483 --> 00:24:59,183
♪ Don't come around here
no more ♪
539
00:24:59,216 --> 00:25:02,296
Zollo: MTV just made them
even more famous.
540
00:25:02,333 --> 00:25:05,123
♪♪
541
00:25:05,150 --> 00:25:07,000
They were really
on a roller coaster there
542
00:25:07,033 --> 00:25:10,173
for a while where they would
do another album and a big tour,
543
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,150
and another album,
and it never really stopped.
544
00:25:13,183 --> 00:25:15,273
And that's when there was
a lot of cocaine,
545
00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:18,070
and, you know, even when
they were partying all the time,
546
00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:20,100
they didn't just get crazy.
547
00:25:20,133 --> 00:25:21,373
They liked to party
and then do good music.
548
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,000
I mean,
it was always about that,
549
00:25:23,033 --> 00:25:25,003
and Tom would come up
with great stuff.
550
00:25:25,033 --> 00:25:27,423
♪♪
551
00:25:27,450 --> 00:25:29,220
Greene:
No one knew at the time,
552
00:25:29,250 --> 00:25:33,180
but the late '90s was
a really dark period.
553
00:25:33,216 --> 00:25:36,176
George-Warren: Heroin was just
this blanket of numb,
554
00:25:36,216 --> 00:25:41,096
and I think, horribly,
that was the enticement.
555
00:25:41,133 --> 00:25:45,033
♪♪
556
00:25:47,050 --> 00:25:50,020
♪♪
557
00:25:50,050 --> 00:25:52,080
McKittrick:
With this great success on MTV,
558
00:25:52,116 --> 00:25:53,326
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
559
00:25:53,366 --> 00:25:57,296
were also having great success
on radio and in album sales.
560
00:25:57,333 --> 00:26:01,103
One album after another
were major hits on the charts.
561
00:26:01,133 --> 00:26:03,423
"Long After Dark,"
"Southern Accents,"
562
00:26:03,450 --> 00:26:05,220
"Let Me Up (I've Had Enough)."
563
00:26:05,250 --> 00:26:07,000
It enabled the Heartbreakers
564
00:26:07,033 --> 00:26:10,483
to do these massive
concert tours.
565
00:26:11,016 --> 00:26:12,246
After the Heartbreakers had
566
00:26:12,283 --> 00:26:16,073
an extremely successful
1980s decade,
567
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:18,020
Tom Petty was ready
to do something different,
568
00:26:18,050 --> 00:26:21,080
and it soon became apparent
that "Full Moon Fever"
569
00:26:21,116 --> 00:26:23,176
was not going to be
a Heartbreakers album.
570
00:26:23,216 --> 00:26:26,466
It was going to be a Tom Petty
solo album -- his first.
571
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,080
This was something
that did not sit well
572
00:26:29,116 --> 00:26:30,176
with the other Heartbreakers,
573
00:26:30,216 --> 00:26:33,326
particularly with Stan Lynch,
the drummer.
574
00:26:33,366 --> 00:26:35,116
Zollo:
After "Full Moon Fever,"
575
00:26:35,150 --> 00:26:36,330
you know, he played again
with the Heartbreakers.
576
00:26:36,366 --> 00:26:37,346
That's who he was.
577
00:26:37,383 --> 00:26:39,303
His solo work was tremendous,
578
00:26:39,333 --> 00:26:41,183
but he always came back
to the band.
579
00:26:41,216 --> 00:26:42,346
They're the Heartbreakers,
after all,
580
00:26:42,383 --> 00:26:44,473
some of the great musicians
of our time.
581
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,480
Tom Petty -- he was the boss
in the band, in a sense.
582
00:26:49,016 --> 00:26:51,296
He really had a musical vision
583
00:26:51,333 --> 00:26:53,433
and he had big ears
in the studio,
584
00:26:53,466 --> 00:26:57,096
but there was acrimony
between him and the drummer,
585
00:26:57,133 --> 00:27:01,023
Stan Lynch, who had been
in the band since the beginning.
586
00:27:01,050 --> 00:27:02,380
He and Stan did not get along.
587
00:27:02,416 --> 00:27:04,266
They were always arguing.
588
00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:07,070
But he loved Stan's playing,
especially live.
589
00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:09,320
♪♪
590
00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:11,250
But Tom realized,
"As great as he is,
591
00:27:11,283 --> 00:27:12,423
I don't want to argue
all the time."
592
00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:16,200
And he had to fire Stan,
and that was very hard for him.
593
00:27:16,233 --> 00:27:19,123
During this entire period,
Tom Petty is still married
594
00:27:19,150 --> 00:27:21,100
to his high-school sweetheart.
595
00:27:21,133 --> 00:27:23,173
He and Jane have two daughters.
596
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,100
Leadon:
Jane loved the band.
597
00:27:25,133 --> 00:27:29,233
She was the perfect companion
for Tom for many years.
598
00:27:29,266 --> 00:27:33,246
I think, personally, that it's
hard on a relationship
599
00:27:33,283 --> 00:27:36,073
when they're spending
a lot of time apart,
600
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:41,170
as Tom had to do when he went
on the road so much.
601
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,130
Elam: They weren't
making each other as happy,
602
00:27:43,166 --> 00:27:47,346
and it was clear
that changes needed to be made.
603
00:27:47,383 --> 00:27:51,273
Tom moved out of their house
in Encino and moved to a house
604
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:53,300
that he would later call
the chicken shack.
605
00:27:53,333 --> 00:27:56,353
And what was good and bad
about that situation
606
00:27:56,383 --> 00:27:58,353
is it gave Tom
a lot of opportunity
607
00:27:58,383 --> 00:28:01,273
to write songs by himself,
608
00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:03,280
but the bad part about it is
he was alone.
609
00:28:03,316 --> 00:28:06,376
He was in a difficult place
in his life,
610
00:28:06,416 --> 00:28:08,466
and he had no one to turn to.
611
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,170
Even though he did feel,
from my understanding,
612
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,150
that the marriage was over,
613
00:28:13,183 --> 00:28:15,253
leaving the family --
that's hard for anyone.
614
00:28:15,283 --> 00:28:17,433
He was a loving dad.
615
00:28:17,466 --> 00:28:19,146
He adored his girls.
616
00:28:19,183 --> 00:28:23,173
After the divorce,
it was a tough time.
617
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,420
George-Warren:
Tom Petty's album "Wildflowers"
618
00:28:25,450 --> 00:28:28,330
is really the mirror
to his soul,
619
00:28:28,366 --> 00:28:32,166
I think, in that period
of the mid-1990s.
620
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,170
He was in his mid-40s then,
621
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,080
and that kind of change
is massive.
622
00:28:37,116 --> 00:28:42,076
And I think he was dealing with
all these things by crafting
623
00:28:42,116 --> 00:28:44,416
this amazing record --
"Wildflowers."
624
00:28:44,450 --> 00:28:48,470
Songs like "Time to Move On" and
"You Don't Know How It Feels."
625
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,420
♪ You don't know how it feels ♪
626
00:28:51,450 --> 00:28:56,350
♪ No, you don't know
how it feels ♪
627
00:28:56,383 --> 00:29:01,133
♪ To be me ♪
628
00:29:01,166 --> 00:29:02,466
George-Warren: You get all these
different kinds of emotions.
629
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,080
You get this
bittersweet sadness.
630
00:29:05,116 --> 00:29:06,296
You get this anger.
631
00:29:06,333 --> 00:29:08,373
You get this resentment.
632
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,050
♪ Rescue me ♪
633
00:29:10,083 --> 00:29:11,153
George-Warren:
"You Wreck Me."
634
00:29:11,183 --> 00:29:12,403
You know, you get the anger.
635
00:29:12,433 --> 00:29:14,283
"You wreck me, baby."
636
00:29:14,316 --> 00:29:17,316
♪ You wreck me, baby ♪
637
00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:20,300
♪ Yeah, you break me in two ♪
638
00:29:20,333 --> 00:29:22,053
♪♪
639
00:29:22,083 --> 00:29:23,253
Elam:
So, his marriage
640
00:29:23,283 --> 00:29:26,253
and Stan's relationship
with the Heartbreakers,
641
00:29:26,283 --> 00:29:28,403
they're breaking up
at about the same time.
642
00:29:28,433 --> 00:29:32,033
These losses hit Tom Petty
pretty hard,
643
00:29:32,066 --> 00:29:35,326
and so he descends
into a clinical depression.
644
00:29:35,366 --> 00:29:36,996
He knows he needs to get help,
645
00:29:37,033 --> 00:29:42,173
but he's relying on
self-medicating with heroin.
646
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,480
And his addiction
gets really bad.
647
00:29:44,016 --> 00:29:46,196
It's a dark time.
648
00:29:46,233 --> 00:29:48,273
I did see him
during that period.
649
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:52,150
He was not the happy Tom I knew,
and it was tough to see that.
650
00:29:52,183 --> 00:29:54,023
He just seemed
really despondent.
651
00:29:54,050 --> 00:29:55,430
I didn't know
if he was on something --
652
00:29:55,466 --> 00:29:59,416
I wasn't sure -- but I sensed
something was going on.
653
00:29:59,450 --> 00:30:04,220
Elam: Tom hadn't taken the time
to deal with the battle scars
654
00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:07,080
that he had built up
throughout his lifetime --
655
00:30:07,116 --> 00:30:11,096
dealing with the relationship
he had with his father
656
00:30:11,133 --> 00:30:14,023
and the emotional baggage
657
00:30:14,050 --> 00:30:18,350
that had weighted him down
through all of these years.
658
00:30:18,383 --> 00:30:21,023
Leadon: Tom never really
reconciled completely
659
00:30:21,050 --> 00:30:22,230
with his father.
660
00:30:22,266 --> 00:30:24,176
His father would come
to the concerts,
661
00:30:24,216 --> 00:30:27,266
and Tom would give
his father money.
662
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:32,070
I didn't think Earl ever really
gave Tom his approval.
663
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:34,450
His dad had his gold
and platinum records
664
00:30:34,483 --> 00:30:37,123
all over the walls,
665
00:30:37,150 --> 00:30:40,130
but Tom thought
he just liked the status
666
00:30:40,166 --> 00:30:42,476
of being the dad of Tom Petty.
667
00:30:43,016 --> 00:30:46,146
I think he just had
a hard time showing it.
668
00:30:46,183 --> 00:30:49,103
I tried to talk to him later,
after his dad had died,
669
00:30:49,133 --> 00:30:56,123
and he just didn't think his dad
really cared about him.
670
00:30:56,150 --> 00:31:00,000
George-Warren: Heroin was just
this blanket of numb,
671
00:31:00,033 --> 00:31:07,003
and I think, horribly, that was
the enticement for Tom Petty.
672
00:31:07,033 --> 00:31:09,353
Elam: Tom had a lot
of self-realization to do
673
00:31:09,383 --> 00:31:11,103
to get off of heroin.
674
00:31:11,133 --> 00:31:15,183
He went into extreme clinical
therapy and hospitalization,
675
00:31:15,216 --> 00:31:17,096
and he was able to kick it.
676
00:31:17,133 --> 00:31:19,183
♪♪
677
00:31:19,216 --> 00:31:23,226
There's so many painful things
that we all go through in life,
678
00:31:23,266 --> 00:31:28,346
and they become a load
that you carry around.
679
00:31:28,383 --> 00:31:31,103
When you forgive those things,
680
00:31:31,133 --> 00:31:35,123
you can drop that load
and move forward.
681
00:31:35,150 --> 00:31:38,120
Elam: He kicked heroin
and restarted his life,
682
00:31:38,150 --> 00:31:41,370
and he found the love
of his life -- Dana York.
683
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,470
When he was with Dana,
he became a happy man again,
684
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,120
and she helped him
in so many ways.
685
00:31:46,150 --> 00:31:49,130
She was a really genuine,
wonderful person,
686
00:31:49,166 --> 00:31:52,116
and it was lucky
that he met her.
687
00:31:52,150 --> 00:31:55,470
McKittrick: They got married
at Petty's Malibu house,
688
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,030
which was actually administered
689
00:31:58,066 --> 00:32:00,026
by none other
than Little Richard,
690
00:32:00,066 --> 00:32:03,166
which Tom Petty being
such a huge rock 'n' roll fan,
691
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,130
was just over the moon about.
692
00:32:05,166 --> 00:32:07,116
♪♪
693
00:32:07,150 --> 00:32:09,130
[ Cheers and applause ]
694
00:32:09,166 --> 00:32:11,416
Halperin: Tom Petty had never
seemed happier
695
00:32:11,450 --> 00:32:13,200
to people who knew him.
696
00:32:13,233 --> 00:32:14,403
Completely different person.
697
00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:17,433
Completely different outlook
on life.
698
00:32:17,466 --> 00:32:19,426
Tom Petty was back.
699
00:32:19,466 --> 00:32:21,046
♪♪
700
00:32:21,083 --> 00:32:22,283
[ Cheers and applause ]
701
00:32:22,316 --> 00:32:23,476
When he leaves the stage,
702
00:32:24,016 --> 00:32:26,096
you can see he's limping
off the stage,
703
00:32:26,133 --> 00:32:30,433
and that's the only indication
that something wasn't right.
704
00:32:30,466 --> 00:32:34,116
♪♪
705
00:32:35,450 --> 00:32:37,270
I love to play.
706
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:40,150
I love it when we all walk out
and start to play,
707
00:32:40,183 --> 00:32:44,273
so I'm not ready to say that
it's time to close the book.
708
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:46,030
I'm just lucky to be here.
709
00:32:46,066 --> 00:32:48,016
Glad to be here.
710
00:32:48,050 --> 00:32:52,100
♪♪
711
00:32:52,133 --> 00:32:55,273
McKittrick: In 2008,
Tom Petty put together a reunion
712
00:32:55,300 --> 00:32:56,450
at what he would later call
713
00:32:56,483 --> 00:32:59,403
"the least-requested reunion
in rock history"
714
00:32:59,433 --> 00:33:02,133
of his original band, Mudcrutch.
715
00:33:02,166 --> 00:33:06,146
I thought we were just gonna go
jam, maybe, for the weekend,
716
00:33:06,183 --> 00:33:09,253
but I talked to Tom
several times and he said,
717
00:33:09,283 --> 00:33:11,273
"At some point, I'm sure
there'll be a record deal."
718
00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:14,180
And I'm like, "Wow,
we're gonna do a record."
719
00:33:14,216 --> 00:33:16,396
Boulware: I think he realized
that his own roots
720
00:33:16,433 --> 00:33:18,453
were something he wanted
to re-explore
721
00:33:18,483 --> 00:33:21,273
and that he had some
great music to be made
722
00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:24,200
that didn't exactly fit
the Heartbreakers format.
723
00:33:24,233 --> 00:33:26,353
♪♪
724
00:33:26,383 --> 00:33:30,223
The whole experience
was just amazing.
725
00:33:30,250 --> 00:33:33,200
Tom did that whole thing --
the whole Mudcrutch thing --
726
00:33:33,233 --> 00:33:36,203
for love, for brotherly love,
727
00:33:36,233 --> 00:33:38,433
and for good music
and good times.
728
00:33:38,466 --> 00:33:40,466
♪♪
729
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,100
I wanna thank all of you
for coming out tonight.
730
00:33:44,133 --> 00:33:49,423
[ Cheers and applause ]
731
00:33:49,450 --> 00:33:55,220
40 years with almost the same
bandmates is remarkable.
732
00:33:55,250 --> 00:34:00,200
It says a lot about Tom Petty
and what kind of leader he was.
733
00:34:00,233 --> 00:34:03,423
As you've probably heard,
we're celebrating
734
00:34:03,450 --> 00:34:06,120
our 40th year on this tour.
735
00:34:06,150 --> 00:34:08,100
[ Cheers and applause ]
736
00:34:08,133 --> 00:34:10,383
It became one of
the highest-grossing tours
737
00:34:10,416 --> 00:34:14,996
in recent times,
mainly because people were just
738
00:34:15,033 --> 00:34:18,473
still so infatuated
with Tom Petty.
739
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,250
And at the end of the tour --
which makes sense,
740
00:34:21,283 --> 00:34:24,233
because Tom Petty has made
Los Angeles his home --
741
00:34:24,266 --> 00:34:27,096
he ends at the Hollywood Bowl.
742
00:34:27,133 --> 00:34:29,433
And he's there onstage.
743
00:34:29,466 --> 00:34:32,366
It's September.
It's a beautiful night.
744
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,070
People being there,
celebrating them.
745
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:41,030
Tonight is the very last show
of a very long tour.
746
00:34:41,066 --> 00:34:44,296
[ Cheers and applause ]
747
00:34:45,383 --> 00:34:47,103
George-Warren:
I would say there's probably
748
00:34:47,133 --> 00:34:49,273
three generations of fans
749
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:53,420
that were at those Tom Petty
and the Heartbreakers shows.
750
00:34:53,450 --> 00:34:59,030
I think that thought probably
made him very, very happy.
751
00:34:59,066 --> 00:35:00,196
His married life is great.
752
00:35:00,233 --> 00:35:01,433
He's a grandfather.
753
00:35:01,466 --> 00:35:05,426
He's got all of these things
that are just right in his life.
754
00:35:05,466 --> 00:35:08,316
Good night!
755
00:35:08,350 --> 00:35:12,250
But at the same time,
when he leaves the stage,
756
00:35:12,283 --> 00:35:16,153
you can see
he's limping off the stage,
757
00:35:16,183 --> 00:35:21,173
and that's the only indication
that something wasn't right.
758
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,420
♪♪
759
00:35:23,450 --> 00:35:26,050
It turns out that
he had fractured his hip
760
00:35:26,083 --> 00:35:27,283
many months earlier,
761
00:35:27,316 --> 00:35:31,146
and he went on tour this whole
time with this fractured hip.
762
00:35:31,183 --> 00:35:33,123
Leadon:
They had a motorized cart,
763
00:35:33,150 --> 00:35:35,150
and they'd take him
from the dressing room
764
00:35:35,183 --> 00:35:38,473
to the stage stairs,
help him up the stairs.
765
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,180
But he would never let on,
766
00:35:40,216 --> 00:35:42,246
when he was onstage,
anything was wrong.
767
00:35:42,283 --> 00:35:46,183
But you see that he's
having trouble moving around.
768
00:35:46,216 --> 00:35:48,096
George-Warren: And then,
Tom found out that
769
00:35:48,133 --> 00:35:50,433
what he thought
was a partial fracture
770
00:35:50,466 --> 00:35:53,126
was a full-on break in his hip.
771
00:35:53,166 --> 00:35:58,466
I can only imagine the sort
of pain that he was suffering.
772
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,350
Man: From the entertainment
world, we have just learned
773
00:36:00,383 --> 00:36:02,233
that legendary
rock singer Tom Petty
774
00:36:02,266 --> 00:36:03,426
has been rushed
to the hospital.
775
00:36:03,466 --> 00:36:07,246
Woman: Petty, who is 66, was
found unconscious earlier today.
776
00:36:07,283 --> 00:36:11,173
It was like, "What?
777
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,150
What? Are you sure?"
778
00:36:13,183 --> 00:36:15,203
Freeman: According to reports,
rocker Tom Petty
779
00:36:15,233 --> 00:36:17,033
of Tom Petty
and the Heartbreakers,
780
00:36:17,066 --> 00:36:20,246
was found unconscious
from heart failure.
781
00:36:20,283 --> 00:36:23,123
My son texted me like,
"Did you hear?"
782
00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:27,080
Halperin: He suffered from
numerous physical ailments...
783
00:36:27,116 --> 00:36:30,176
And I just was,
"This has got to be a hoax."
784
00:36:30,216 --> 00:36:34,166
Halperin:
...emphysema, knee injury...
785
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,480
"This can't be real."
786
00:36:36,016 --> 00:36:37,326
Just didn't seem possible.
787
00:36:37,366 --> 00:36:42,246
And then he had
this really bad hip.
788
00:36:42,283 --> 00:36:46,433
I'd seen him very sick on
some of the tours, and he said,
789
00:36:46,466 --> 00:36:51,276
"When you have a tour like that
booked, you go."
790
00:36:51,316 --> 00:36:55,146
He never wanted to disappoint
his fans by canceling a concert.
791
00:36:55,183 --> 00:37:00,403
♪♪
792
00:37:00,433 --> 00:37:02,483
[ Voice breaking ]
He'd been at the hospital.
793
00:37:03,016 --> 00:37:05,096
♪♪
794
00:37:05,133 --> 00:37:06,383
I'm gonna get emotional.
795
00:37:06,416 --> 00:37:12,396
I can't get through this
without getting very emotional.
796
00:37:12,433 --> 00:37:18,003
Tom had had cardiac arrest
and wasn't going to make it.
797
00:37:18,033 --> 00:37:20,183
He was on life support.
798
00:37:20,216 --> 00:37:23,076
Doctor said they were just
kind of keeping him alive
799
00:37:23,116 --> 00:37:24,276
until the family
could get there.
800
00:37:24,316 --> 00:37:26,316
And they finally took him off
life support,
801
00:37:26,350 --> 00:37:28,170
and he passed away.
802
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,050
♪♪
803
00:37:31,083 --> 00:37:34,103
Fans are shocked and heartbroken
804
00:37:34,133 --> 00:37:36,383
over the sudden death
of rock legend Tom Petty.
805
00:37:36,416 --> 00:37:39,346
According to his manager,
Petty suffered cardiac arrest
806
00:37:39,383 --> 00:37:41,373
and could not be revived.
807
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,180
He was just 66 years old.
808
00:37:44,216 --> 00:37:46,076
And I'm just like, "What?
809
00:37:46,116 --> 00:37:47,266
He just played a concert.
810
00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:49,000
How is this possible?
811
00:37:49,033 --> 00:37:51,273
How can he go from two hours
at Hollywood Bowl
812
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:53,100
to dead in seven days?"
813
00:37:53,133 --> 00:37:55,023
It just made no sense.
814
00:37:55,050 --> 00:37:58,120
♪♪
815
00:37:58,150 --> 00:38:00,070
Elam:
When the autopsy comes out,
816
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:03,030
that's when everyone learns
that Tom Petty
817
00:38:03,066 --> 00:38:07,276
had a mix of different types
of fentanyl in his body.
818
00:38:07,316 --> 00:38:10,026
He had a prescribed patch,
but then there was also
819
00:38:10,066 --> 00:38:11,426
two other kinds
that were in his body.
820
00:38:11,466 --> 00:38:13,476
Woman:
The Los Angeles medical examiner
821
00:38:14,016 --> 00:38:17,166
says musician Tom Petty
died of an accidental overdose
822
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,080
of several medications,
including fentanyl.
823
00:38:20,116 --> 00:38:22,996
An autopsy revealed
prescription opioids
824
00:38:23,033 --> 00:38:26,253
were in his system, along with
sedatives and an antidepressant.
825
00:38:26,283 --> 00:38:29,183
Elam: There was a whole cocktail
of drugs in his system,
826
00:38:29,216 --> 00:38:30,416
and who knows how these drugs
827
00:38:30,450 --> 00:38:33,070
may have been interacting
within his body.
828
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:36,430
Fentanyl is about 100 times
more potent than morphine,
829
00:38:36,466 --> 00:38:39,216
50 times as potent as heroin.
830
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:42,080
Fentanyl is used in
anesthesia procedures
831
00:38:42,116 --> 00:38:43,396
all the time, in surgeries,
832
00:38:43,433 --> 00:38:46,073
for things like
chronic back pain,
833
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:47,320
hip pain, knee pain.
834
00:38:47,350 --> 00:38:50,220
But it leads to a cycle where
now you're controlling the pain,
835
00:38:50,250 --> 00:38:52,400
but then you go out
and do your rigorous tour
836
00:38:52,433 --> 00:38:54,373
or working or sports,
837
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,220
and it's kind of
masking the pain.
838
00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:58,400
So the root problem's
still there.
839
00:38:58,433 --> 00:39:00,433
Then when the pain medication
wears off,
840
00:39:00,466 --> 00:39:04,166
the person's oftentimes left
in a more painful state.
841
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,080
So then they require more
pain medication to manage it.
842
00:39:08,116 --> 00:39:10,226
Halperin:
He wore a fentanyl patch.
843
00:39:10,266 --> 00:39:15,066
But then, we later learned
that he had two
844
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:19,480
non-prescription fentanyl doses
in his system.
845
00:39:20,016 --> 00:39:23,276
It was very similar to Prince.
846
00:39:23,316 --> 00:39:25,316
When Prince died,
he had a bad hip,
847
00:39:25,350 --> 00:39:29,050
he resorted to fentanyl,
and here we go.
848
00:39:29,083 --> 00:39:32,003
Another rock star dies.
849
00:39:32,033 --> 00:39:34,253
Woman: Petty's wife and daughter
said the musician was suffering
850
00:39:34,283 --> 00:39:36,423
from a fractured hip
that only got worse.
851
00:39:36,450 --> 00:39:38,330
They released this statement
saying,
852
00:39:38,366 --> 00:39:41,166
"On the day he died,
he was informed his hip
853
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,180
had graduated
to a full-on break
854
00:39:43,216 --> 00:39:46,326
and it's our feeling that
the pain was simply unbearable
855
00:39:46,366 --> 00:39:50,016
and was the cause for his
over use of medication."
856
00:39:50,050 --> 00:39:53,420
I felt guilty that I wasn't
there with him.
857
00:39:53,450 --> 00:39:55,250
He may not have wanted me
to be there,
858
00:39:55,283 --> 00:39:57,023
but I felt like
859
00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:59,320
there could have been something
I could have done.
860
00:39:59,350 --> 00:40:01,350
This is my friend
Jon Scott here.
861
00:40:01,383 --> 00:40:03,103
Scott:
It's tough.
862
00:40:03,133 --> 00:40:06,173
It's really tough when you have
a friend like that for 40 years,
863
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,120
and it's just --
864
00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:11,150
you saw him a week ago,
and the next week, he's gone.
865
00:40:11,183 --> 00:40:14,123
That's all I can say.
It was just --
866
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:17,180
I still don't believe it,
to be honest with you.
867
00:40:17,216 --> 00:40:21,296
Leadon: For me, he was always
that teenage guy, you know?
868
00:40:21,333 --> 00:40:23,123
I remember him smiling
869
00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:26,270
the last time I saw him
as he was driven away.
870
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:29,470
It's the same smile, you know,
that I used to always get
871
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,380
if he was happy,
you know, and glad to see me.
872
00:40:33,416 --> 00:40:38,016
♪♪
873
00:40:38,050 --> 00:40:40,030
DeCurtis:
Tom Petty's legacy is his songs.
874
00:40:40,066 --> 00:40:42,096
There's no doubt about that.
875
00:40:42,133 --> 00:40:46,373
Tom Petty's songs come across
as powerfully now,
876
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,080
when you hear them,
as when you first heard them.
877
00:40:50,116 --> 00:40:52,196
Greene: Tom will be seen as
one of the great songwriters
878
00:40:52,233 --> 00:40:53,383
of the 20th century.
879
00:40:53,416 --> 00:40:57,316
Just somebody that tapped into
something so American.
880
00:40:57,350 --> 00:40:59,350
It's a remarkable gift.
881
00:40:59,383 --> 00:41:02,253
Scott: Tom Petty was the
greatest rock 'n' roll singer,
882
00:41:02,283 --> 00:41:05,033
rock star,
that I've ever known in my life.
883
00:41:05,066 --> 00:41:08,316
And he was my hero,
and he always will be.
884
00:41:08,350 --> 00:41:12,320
I can't think of anybody
that could replace him.
885
00:41:12,350 --> 00:41:17,430
Songs mean something to people,
and what more can you ask for?
886
00:41:17,466 --> 00:41:20,366
You know, if you're gonna be
a songwriter
887
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,020
and have a rock 'n' roll band,
what more can you ask for
888
00:41:25,050 --> 00:41:27,270
than for those songs
to touch somebody that way?
889
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:30,030
It's just beautiful.
890
00:41:30,066 --> 00:41:33,166
During his career,
Tom Petty made 13 studio albums
891
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,330
with the Heartbreakers.
892
00:41:34,366 --> 00:41:36,446
In addition,
he released three solo albums,
893
00:41:36,483 --> 00:41:38,273
two albums with
the Traveling Wilburys,
894
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:40,180
and two with Mudcrutch.
895
00:41:40,216 --> 00:41:43,446
To say he was a prolific artist
is an understatement.
896
00:41:43,483 --> 00:41:46,203
In 2018,
a year after Petty's death,
897
00:41:46,233 --> 00:41:48,453
his family put out a tribute
collection of his music,
898
00:41:48,483 --> 00:41:50,283
which included unreleased songs.
899
00:41:50,316 --> 00:41:52,366
His daughter Adria
called the collection
900
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,430
"an American treasure"
because, she says, he was one,
901
00:41:56,466 --> 00:41:58,366
and we couldn't agree more.
902
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,030
Thanks for watching.
903
00:42:00,066 --> 00:42:01,446
Good night.
904
00:42:01,483 --> 00:42:06,023
♪♪
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